--- Log opened Thu Jan 19 00:00:02 2006 00:02 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:03 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-178-028.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:08 < coob> Alandovos: shoot. 00:09 < Alandovos> can finish compiling everything but when it links I get repeated "undefined reference to `id3_compat_lookup'" errors 00:15 -!- Hes [i=lol@ti131110a080-2709.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:17 -!- legolas558 [n=nnnn@adsl-ull-49-42.44-151.net24.it] has quit [] 00:18 -!- Sound-Mind [n=Spencer@pcp0010599582pcs.catonv01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20 -!- Shawnster [n=here@c-67-191-236-173.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:21 -!- Shawnster [n=here@c-67-191-236-173.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:24 < rmh3093> alandovos: what version of gcc are u using 3.4.5? 00:24 -!- wladston [n=wladston@200.139.130.138] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:25 < Alandovos> i'm using cygwin and the arm-uclinux-tools-cygwin-20060116 version built for it. Downloaded from the toolchain page on the wiki 00:28 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: ping 00:30 -!- conorkirk1 [n=conorkir@71-38-149-99.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 -!- conorkirk1 [n=conorkir@71-38-149-99.ptld.qwest.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:33 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey 00:34 -!- Macke [n=stoor_ka@c-c26ae253.631-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Straitjacket glory."] 00:35 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 01:10 < Alandovos> well let me ask this question then... would I have better success doing it from linux? 01:14 -!- Alandovos [i=Alandovo@ip68-3-14-34.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 01:16 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c134095.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:26 -!- ramses5th [n=benzyl@c215121.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:33 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 01:33 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:33 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 01:41 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:48 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:57 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:58 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:59 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 02:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:04 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:04 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:12 < Forceflow1049> How does IRC work? 02:13 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"] 02:15 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 02:16 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:16 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 02:25 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:25 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 < Tranqualizer> does anyone know how to compile appleblossom on OS X? 02:27 < Tranqualizer> I also need help compiling iBoy 02:27 < Tranqualizer> in other words, I have never compiled anything before 02:29 < Tranqualizer> anyone? 02:35 < aegray> whats the error? 02:36 < aegray> whats the error 02:36 < aegray> whatss the error 02:36 < aegray> damnit irssi 02:40 < courtc> What's the error? 02:40 * courtc winner! 02:51 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 02:52 -!- bushblowz [n=dsafdsac@nphloh-terayon1-69-165-50-227.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:59 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 -!- bushblowz is now known as bushblowz|sleep 03:06 -!- march1980 [n=andreas@212.202.24.69] has joined #ipodlinux 03:09 < march1980> does anyone have a link for me about how to get some pictures on my ipod? I searched for it, but nothing 03:09 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 03:09 < coob> a) what ipod b) what desktop os c) under apple's firmware or ipod linux 03:10 < aegray> shouldn't you telapathically know that stuff already? 03:10 < coob> oh shit, i forgot! 03:10 < march1980> a) ipod g5 b) KDE, bash, ... c) apple firmware 03:13 < coob> (b) is the problem 03:13 < aegray> he's running them through cygwin 03:13 < aegray> obviously 03:13 < coob> nothing i know of other than itunes can write artworkdb's. 03:13 < coob> gtkpod people are working on it. 03:14 < march1980> I do not running it through cygwin 03:14 < march1980> gentoo 03:15 < coob> the format is documented if you fancy wirting a library or patch to libgpod that will. 03:18 -!- joshn_454 [n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:19 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:28 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["o rly?"] 03:41 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:53 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 03:57 < josh_> http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-skyward2.png (courtesy of courtc) 04:03 -!- Luke_ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 04:04 < BleuLlama> looks nice 04:06 -!- philhans__ [n=philip@128.187.184.201] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:07 -!- sE^ex0du5 [i=PaLaDiN-@CPE0011117a1337-CM0012c90f3f16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:07 -!- philhans__ [n=philip@128.187.128.55] has joined #ipodlinux 04:08 < sE^ex0du5> 4g photo - iPL podzilla (nightly) is currently working on my ipod, i am following the video player guide on the site, but it is refering to a video player download i cannot find 04:09 -!- Luke_ is now known as Luke 04:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 04:09 < sE^ex0du5> it says: (Instalation): "For Windows, you can replace linux.bin in the iPodLinux installer directory with this download, then follow install directions as usual. Afterward, copy the video podzilla file onto the ipod and add the start file." 04:11 < Luke> veteran: you around? 04:12 < sE^ex0du5> oo i found a cnet installation instruction video ;D 04:13 -!- Kodemage [n=None_Giv@c-71-57-16-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:14 < Luke> veteran: permission problems on the server... looks like some UIDs changed 04:16 < Kodemage> Hello all, I seek advice about Ipodlinux on a 4g ipod, i recognize it is officially unsupported but I am looking for some info 04:17 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:22 < Kodemage> Any one awake? 04:22 < courtc> The same. 04:23 < courtc> You can just plug in any normal mic if you have an ipod which supports recording. 04:23 < courtc> under ipodlinux at least. 04:23 < courtc> under the apple firmware you need special hardware. 04:23 < Kodemage> that seems counter intuitive, but thanks 04:24 < Kodemage> yeah, I am considering getting the hardware just to avoid mucking up my ipod 04:25 < Kodemage> is the techzoneonline installer useful or would things be better if I didn't use it? 04:27 < courtc> I've never used it... 04:27 < courtc> of course, I haven't really ever used any installer.... 04:27 < Kodemage> fair enough 04:29 < jonrelay> BHSPitLappy: pong 04:44 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["Restarted by josh_"] 04:44 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:50 -!- darco [n=darco@66.201.43.172] has joined #ipodlinux 04:51 -!- darco [n=darco@66.201.43.172] has quit [Client Quit] 04:52 < Kodemage> courtc: I've installed the current on my 4g ipod, no video appears, so I ask, on the initial screen which option boots into apple's firmware? I can here the clicks from input but nothing shows so i have to select blindly 04:53 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:53 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 04:54 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 04:54 < josh_> Kodemage: if you hear clicks, that means you're already in iPL. 04:55 < Kodemage> hrmn... 04:55 < BleuLlama> or you have an earwax buildup 04:55 < Kodemage> In the installer I told it to boot apple by default 04:55 < Kodemage> am I missing the bootloader screen then? 04:57 < Kodemage> I see this: , , , 04:59 < josh_> if the kernel is booting it's going into iPL 05:00 < Kodemage> shouldn't there be a boot selector screen before the kernel boots? 05:01 < josh_> no, it's just whether you hold << or not. 05:01 < Kodemage> ah ok 05:01 < Kodemage> thanks 05:02 < Kodemage> ah, not << but >> actually, unless i've changed the default 05:03 < courtc> << is the default 05:03 < josh_> any key does the non-default action, on 4g+ 05:03 < Kodemage> thanks guys, you've been helpful 05:04 < BleuLlama> any key, including [hold] 05:04 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:04 < Kodemage> really? On mine << did not work but >> did 05:04 < Kodemage> and that's why it's still under development ain't it 05:04 < Kodemage> it ain't perfect 05:05 < Kodemage> yet (^_^) 05:07 < courtc> It's funny, everything works perfectly for me. 05:07 < courtc> Why is that? 05:08 < Kodemage> i don't know sir 05:08 < Kodemage> but I am investigating 05:08 < courtc> mpd, mpdc, bootloader, everything. 05:08 < Kodemage> i've got no video on ipl, distorted menus 05:08 < courtc> I don't watch videos. 05:08 < Kodemage> re-installing now maybe something got corrupted on install 05:09 < Kodemage> <- Not using ipod video 05:09 < Kodemage> i have generic 4g ipod 20 gig, not a video or the newer 5g ones 05:10 < courtc> I have a mini. 05:10 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:11 < courtc> Just proves that minis > * 05:11 < Kodemage> yeah, and I read on digg that they can sell for grater than sticker price on e-bay 05:12 < courtc> Like a cheese grater? 05:13 < Kodemage> huh? 05:13 * BleuLlama falls over 05:13 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:13 * Kodemage is confused 05:14 -!- march1980 [n=andreas@212.202.24.69] has quit ["leaving"] 05:29 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 05:30 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has quit [Client Quit] 05:30 < veteran> luke - example url please 05:31 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit ["I bad want sleep now. Me sick."] 05:38 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:38 < BHSPitLappy> yep... 05:40 < Luke> veteran: no just on my end with the ftp 05:41 < veteran> oh, right - forgot to change ftp uid 05:41 < veteran> sec 05:41 < Kodemage> ahem: "failed to open /etc/podzilla.conf to read settings, using defaults" 05:41 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:41 < Kodemage> Of a fress install, any ideas how to handle this? 05:41 < Luke> veteran: thanks mate 05:42 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ttk/libs/SDL/libSDL.a: Color iPod LCD fix :-) (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/712) 05:42 < courtc> woo! 05:43 < courtc> Kodemage: that's not an error,just means you haven't saved your settings yet. 05:44 < veteran> np 05:45 < Kodemage> courtc: ok, all it's doing now is echoing my key inputs any advice? 05:47 -!- sE^ex0du5 [i=PaLaDiN-@CPE0011117a1337-CM0012c90f3f16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:48 -!- IWoN_a_Nano [i=gogs@12-208-197-225.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 < Kodemage> is there any command I can key that will show the main menu? 05:57 < IWoN_a_Nano> it's pretty quick and easy to click 'menu' a bunch of times 05:57 < Kodemage> um... 05:58 < Kodemage> that echos a line of "m"s 05:59 < IWoN_a_Nano> be more specific. 05:59 < Kodemage> pressing any key merely prints a letter to the screen 05:59 < Kodemage> menu echos "m", play echos "d" 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> IWoN_a_Nano: don't just come in and act like you know what you're talking about. 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> Kodemage: pz0 or pz2? 06:00 < IWoN_a_Nano> i dont know what he is talking about. 06:00 < Kodemage> pz2 I believe 06:01 < courtc> pz0 then 06:01 < Kodemage> don't yell at me, I realize it's unsupported but I do have a 4g ipod 06:01 < Kodemage> pz0 it is then 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> we're not yelling at you 06:01 < IWoN_a_Nano> but they are at me 06:01 < IWoN_a_Nano> :) 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> exactly 06:01 < IWoN_a_Nano> see we agree! 06:01 < Kodemage> i may have fobar-ed my ipod... oh well, knew it was a risk 06:01 < Kodemage> fubar* 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> Kodemage: what's the last line that gets displayed 06:02 < Kodemage> no combinati9on of keys will boot the ipod into apple's software 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> before it just takes input 06:02 < Kodemage> ahem: "failed to open /etc/podzilla.conf to read settings, using defaults" 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> Kodemage: keep your hands off of it completely while it resets to use apple... 06:02 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*=None_Giv@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net ] by coob 06:02 -!- Kodemage was kicked from #ipodlinux by coob [coob] 06:02 < BHSPitLappy> aye... 06:03 < courtc> uhh 06:03 < IWoN_a_Nano> arrr 06:05 < IWoN_a_Nano> hmm 06:05 < IWoN_a_Nano> why was he banned?> 06:07 < davidc__> uh? 06:07 < davidc__> coob? 06:08 < coob> davidc__? 06:08 < davidc__> why the ban? 06:08 < courtc> .dev 06:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*=None_Giv@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net ] by davidc__ 06:11 -!- Kodemage [n=None_Giv@c-71-57-16-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:12 < Kodemage> so why did coob do that again? 06:13 < davidc__> he was bored ;) 06:13 < Kodemage> oh 06:13 < davidc__> or something 06:13 < davidc__> anyhow.. fixed now 06:13 < Kodemage> looks like i'm boned here... is there a way to flash the firmware on a ipod? 06:14 < davidc__> uh...? 06:14 < aegray> like direct to flash? 06:14 < davidc__> just go into disk mode 06:14 < aegray> or just reinstall 06:14 < Kodemage> um... i cannot enter disk mode 06:14 < davidc__> umm.. yes you can 06:14 < davidc__> if you can reset it 06:14 < Kodemage> I cannot enter the apple firmware 06:14 < davidc__> you can enter disk mode 06:14 < coob> `disk mode 06:14 < iplbot> I assume you meant diskmode. diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center [from coob] 06:14 < davidc__> you don't need to 06:14 < coob> `reset 06:15 < coob> `reboot 06:15 < iplbot> reboot is flip hold switch on and then back off, then hold these buttons for at least ten seconds: <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from coob] 06:15 < davidc__> diskmode is a shortcut to get to the same place as you would from apple firmware plugging in the cable 06:15 < Kodemage> iplbot: when I do that it boots into ipl 06:16 < BHSPitLappy> Kodemage: don't talk to the bot. 06:16 < Kodemage> oh ok 06:16 * Kodemage feels like an idiot for not recognizing that bot part 06:16 < davidc__> you gotta reset first 06:16 < davidc__> then as soon as you see the apple logo 06:16 < davidc__> switch to the diskmode combo 06:16 < BHSPitLappy> so do a reboot, and then immediately do the diskmode key combo. 06:16 < davidc__> it will work 06:16 < BHSPitLappy> err 06:16 < davidc__> you're just not doing it right. 06:17 < Kodemage> woot 06:17 < Kodemage> ok that worked 06:17 < Kodemage> wonderful 06:17 * BleuLlama slaps his forehead 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> i just made a .FNT, it's twice as large in file size as the other fnt's 06:17 < BHSPitLappy> was there something i should have done to cut back on the size? 06:18 < Kodemage> ok, I'm going to keep playing with this I'll be back soon enough having flubbed something else :p 06:18 < IWoN_a_Nano> man nano's are soo horrible for gaming on ipl 06:18 < IWoN_a_Nano> too tiny for my big hands 06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> stop bitching about having an ipod. 06:19 < IWoN_a_Nano> lol 06:19 < IWoN_a_Nano> ok. 06:19 < IWoN_a_Nano> i will rejoice 06:19 * IWoN_a_Nano pulls out a keg for #ipodlinux 06:23 < BHSPitMonkey> is anyone with svn interested in changing some values in Familiar.cs to actual colors from the apple fw resources? 06:23 * BHSPitMonkey has changed his already 06:23 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:26 < courtc> if they look better, sure. 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> well i'm always changing my apple firmware appearance, got all the bitmaps sitting about 06:29 < courtc> if they look better, sure. 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> should I just give you the 2 changed values, or do I need to patch it 06:32 < courtc> either 06:33 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 06:35 < BHSPitMonkey> I removed gradient.middle from the "header" section, and changed grapbot and graptop to #BDC6CD and #F6F6FF, respectively 06:35 < courtc> You can't just remove gradient.middle 06:35 < BHSPitMonkey> i did, and it worked. 06:36 < BHSPitMonkey> it just grads from top to bottom now 06:36 < courtc> you know, there are multiple gradient types? 06:36 < courtc> that don't use a trigrad? 06:36 < BHSPitMonkey> ah...never thought about that 06:36 < BHSPitMonkey> ok 06:36 < Lex> hey 06:37 < BHSPitMonkey> then what should the course be from here? 06:38 < BHSPitMonkey> I think i'll grab the center value, and put it there 06:38 < courtc> use another header gradient and make it look how you want it. 06:39 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c134095.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> ok, #D5DEE6 for grapmid 06:40 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c144008.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 06:42 < courtc> doesn't look right 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> looks right on mine 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> what's amiss? 06:42 < courtc> too dark 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> it's an exact clone of the retailos header 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> it could just look off on a monitor 06:44 < courtc> I don't have a color iPod, but it looks too dark to me. 06:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 < BHSPitMonkey> http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4985/familiar8jk.png 06:49 < BHSPitMonkey> looks perfect to me 06:49 < BHSPitMonkey> (the header at least) 06:49 < BleuLlama> the font kerning is fucked up 06:50 < BHSPitMonkey> I didn't say my Podium Sans font was finished... 06:50 < BHSPitMonkey> just talking about the header 06:51 < BleuLlama> i think the center of the gradient should be brighter 06:51 < courtc> you'll have to find a dev that agrees with you, because I don't/ 06:51 < BHSPitMonkey> :( 06:51 < BleuLlama> most of the dark-to-light should happen in the bottom half 06:51 < BHSPitMonkey> compare my screenshot to press pics like http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050908/nano_1.jpg 06:51 < courtc> yea, see, those look fine. 06:52 < courtc> Yours doesn't. 06:52 < BleuLlama> yeah. your gradient is off. 06:52 < BleuLlama> theirs are non-linear. 06:52 -!- IWoN_a_Nano [i=gogs@12-208-197-225.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 06:52 < BleuLlama> just do a tri-grad, with the middle color closer to the bottom color 06:53 < BleuLlama> or rather 06:53 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@67-64-150-195.ded.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:53 < BleuLlama> the middle color should be darker than what the halfway point is currently 06:54 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [n=billybob@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:56 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:01 -!- BHSPitGrr [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:01 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:01 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:02 < BHSPitGrr> feel free to kick _ and 2 07:02 < BHSPitGrr> they're both ghosted 07:02 -!- BHSPitGrr is now known as BHSPitLappy 07:05 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:06 -!- BHSPitGrr [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:07 -!- BHSPitGrr is now known as BHSPitLappy 07:07 < BHSPitLappy> _ and 2 are both ghosts 07:08 < BHSPitLappy> feel free to open a can of kick on them 07:09 < BHSPitLappy> as for the previous discussion... here's the actual header from the firmware resources: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/237/pic0720wf.png 07:10 < courtc> That still doesn't look like what you have 07:10 < BHSPitLappy> :S 07:10 < BHSPitLappy> I grabbed hex values from the top and bottom pixel row (excluding the grey bar at the bottom) 07:11 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [n=billybob@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:11 < spazzium> but it's not a straight font 07:11 < spazzium> it resolves to a third color in the center 07:11 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@67-64-150-195.ded.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:11 < spazzium> s/font/gradient 07:11 < spazzium> I'm reading about fonts right now... 07:12 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: you ARE workong on a podium sans font? 07:23 < BHSPitLappy> the apple header is a straight A to B grad, i've tested this again and again in photoshop 07:26 -!- Kodemage [n=None_Giv@c-71-57-16-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 07:26 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:36 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-154-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:47 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 07:49 < spazzium> hmmm 07:49 < spazzium> is podzilla .fnt format identical to standard .fnt format? 07:54 < spazzium> looks like it's actually a bdf? 07:56 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 -!- odat [n=emachine@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 < odat> hi everyone 08:00 < odat> i am getting a strange error when i try to copy files to the ipod its says its read only 08:00 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-240-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:03 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:04 < BHSPitLappy> explain the context. 08:08 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:08 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:09 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 08:15 < odat> i can load tracks on to it 08:17 < odat> the tracks are appearing when i look at the ipod but theyre unnamed and you cant see the when oyu use the ipod for some reason 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> in the apple firmware? 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> or ipodlinux? 08:22 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:24 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 08:25 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:25 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 08:26 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:26 < odat> i think its the apple firmware 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> dunno. maybe need to update/restore then 08:32 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:33 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:37 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:37 < odat> just got done doing that 08:38 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.147] has joined #ipodlinux 08:38 < BHSPitLappy> hey EvilDude 08:38 < BHSPitLappy> i JUST played chopper on my nano! 08:38 < EvilDude> hey 08:39 < EvilDude> haha yay 08:39 < EvilDude> any better than before? 08:43 < BHSPitLappy> as far as up and down, it slides around to much. 08:43 < BHSPitLappy> picture it as a driving game from a birds eye view, the car has no traction 08:43 < courtc> You're picky as hell. 08:43 < BHSPitLappy> in the flash game, if you release the mouse button, it begins to fall rather quickly. 08:43 < courtc> so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-skyward4.png 08:44 < courtc> so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-calculator.png 08:44 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: i'm doing my best to help the author produce the best game possible :D 08:44 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:45 < bholland> ooh pretty calculator 08:45 < BHSPitLappy> in no way do I disrespect his coding skills 08:45 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: calculator your doing? 08:45 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:45 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:45 < courtc> just porting it, although that typically means little code remains. 08:46 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> maybe someday, an advanced mode with more advanced functions? :D 08:47 < BHSPitLappy> and a basic/advanced toggle button 08:47 < courtc> I don't feel like making bitmaps.. that's what it always comes down to. 08:47 * BHSPitLappy writes down everything he plans on coding after he learns C 08:48 < BHSPitLappy> does bitmaps mean something other than a graphics type? because i'm lost 08:49 < courtc> characters, sqrt, pi, etc 08:49 < BHSPitLappy> that skyward scheme is beautiful by the way, i love the simplistic glass effect 08:49 < BHSPitLappy> ah. 08:50 < BHSPitLappy> in a scheme, can the menu.bg be a grad? 08:50 < courtc> not in the way you want it to be 08:50 < BHSPitLappy> ok 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> in what way, then? 08:51 < courtc> It's hard to explain, try it. 08:51 < BHSPitLappy> k 08:52 -!- crash-x [n=crash-x@0x41414141.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:52 < BHSPitLappy> oooohhhhhh 08:52 < BHSPitLappy> horrific! :P 08:53 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-088-064-065-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:53 < BHSPitLappy> so is "the way I want it to be" ever going to be implemented? 08:53 < courtc> not easily. 08:53 < BHSPitLappy> hmm...that's weird 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> i just started a pz2 desktop build 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> and by mistake, hit play 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> and a song started playing 08:54 < BHSPitLappy> without ever navigating out of the main menu 08:57 < courtc> yup 08:57 < courtc> meant to do that. 08:57 < courtc> as long as you have songs in the queue 08:58 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 08:58 < courtc> if it's paused it'll continue, otherwise it'll start at the beginning of the queue 08:58 < BHSPitLappy> hey, does pz2 have an overall lag running on your ipod? 08:58 < courtc> yea, it's the battery meter 08:59 < BHSPitLappy> ooh 08:59 < BHSPitLappy> that refresh takes that much away from ttk? 08:59 < courtc> no 08:59 < courtc> it's the interaction with /proc/apm 09:00 < BHSPitLappy> it IS the 1sec. interval refresh you're referring to, right? 09:00 < courtc> well it reads /proc/apm every second... 09:01 < courtc> normally shouldn't cause a problem. 09:01 < BHSPitLappy> could that be a user setting? 09:01 < BHSPitLappy> well, it's pretty noticeably stop-and-go on my nano 09:02 < courtc> if you want to just resort to a random battery meter: core/ipod.c:241 -#ifdef IPOD +#if 0 09:02 < BHSPitLappy> will that ever improve? 09:03 < courtc> Well, either it improves or we stop using a battery meter.. 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 09:03 < BHSPitLappy> it would be nice if refresh interval was a user setting 09:04 < EvilDude> sorry i died, been busy with choosing subjects for uni :D 09:04 < EvilDude> calculator looks awesome courtc :) 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> no prob 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> did you see what i was getting at? 09:04 < courtc> :) 09:04 < EvilDude> but does the interface depend on the setting in the appearance setting or is it a seperate appearance for the calculator 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: is that calc in the svn now? 09:04 < EvilDude> i have the swf so I'll play it and try to get the physics like that hwne i can be bothered 09:04 < courtc> on the color scheme 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> (my linux box is off the net at the moment) 09:04 < courtc> not yet, still working on it. 09:04 < BHSPitLappy> ah 09:05 < BHSPitLappy> can't wait 09:05 < EvilDude> ohh, do you need extra stuff in appearance or does it work using what's already in it? 09:05 < courtc> atm I'm apparently too dumb to write pow() 09:05 < courtc> EvilDude: whith what's in it already 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> it should use definitions in the scheme 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, cool. 09:06 < EvilDude> that's awesome ! 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> like calendar. 09:06 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:06 < BHSPitLappy> is it bad when sexy gradients get you frisky? 09:07 < courtc> I hope not. 09:07 < EvilDude> heh I love gradients 09:07 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 09:07 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [] 09:08 < courtc> winner! 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> hmm? 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> did courtc win at the game of coding? 09:08 < courtc> yep 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> suhweet 09:08 < BHSPitLappy> the best thing about that game is we all get the prize ;) 09:09 -!- odat [n=emachine@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:09 < BHSPitLappy> I'm curious as to apple's attention to this project... 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> we should have the web server let us know whenever there's a hit from an apple domain :) 09:10 < courtc> apparently they are rather indifferent 09:10 < BHSPitLappy> that's as far as WE know... 09:11 < courtc> That's as far as apple employees know. 09:11 < BHSPitLappy> are you referring to the one guy who doesn't even work on the ipod? 09:11 < courtc> no. 09:12 < BHSPitLappy> ok 09:13 < EvilDude> They wouldn't care, we're making the product better, AND 99.9% dont know we exist :D 09:13 < BHSPitLappy> not really 09:14 < BHSPitLappy> i've found that a lot of people at my school bring up the topic, "hey, did you know there's this thing now where you can watch videos on a nano?" 09:14 < BHSPitLappy> and i just sigh 09:15 < EvilDude> heh, your school must be special 09:15 < EvilDude> i'm the one who taught the people at my school about linux 09:15 < EvilDude> had no idea till then :p 09:15 < BHSPitLappy> well, we're badasses 09:15 < BHSPitLappy> well, most people don't need to know a thing about linux 09:16 < BHSPitLappy> but a lot of that population i was referring to are more along the lines of the digg type of crows 09:16 < BHSPitLappy> s/crows/crowd 09:16 < EvilDude> hey i go to digg 09:16 < EvilDude> tis alright 09:17 < BHSPitLappy> anybody know if there's a way to make the mencoder conversion for ipod double-pass? 09:18 < BHSPitLappy> i've been getting shoddy results lately 09:18 < spazzium> never tried a double pass with mencoder 09:19 < spazzium> I have with qt7 pro, seems to work well 09:19 < BHSPitLappy> oh, and courtc: do you happen to know any special care that's to be taken when making a .fnt ? 09:19 < BHSPitLappy> i converted ttf to bdf and bdf to fnt 09:19 < courtc> not really. 09:19 < BHSPitLappy> the result is double the size of the fonts in svn and doesn't load 09:19 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: are you manually piecing together the bitmap for podium sans? 09:20 < BHSPitLappy> Error in font file fonts/aquafont.fnt - possibly truncated 09:21 < spazzium> I'm one gimp download away from making an sfont out of it 09:22 < BHSPitLappy> I noticed all the .fnt files are fixed size, and nothing during my conversions from ttf prompted me to choose a size 09:22 < BHSPitLappy> maybe there's something there? 09:26 < iPL-SVN> courtc * ( tools/podzilla2/modules/calc/calc.c): ported calc to ttk (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/713) 09:27 < iPL-SVN> courtc * ( tools/ttk/schemes/skywards.cs[+]): added a 'skyward' theme (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/714) 09:27 < spazzium> sweet! 09:28 < EvilDude> :) 09:28 < BHSPitLappy> :( 09:29 < BHSPitLappy> :'( 09:29 < BHSPitLappy> i'm calling sbc tomorrow, damnit 09:29 < BHSPitLappy> i'm sick and tired of this regular outage 09:31 < linuxstb> BHSPitLappy: What format are you compressing to that you want mencoder to use double-pass? 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> umm, guess :) 09:32 < linuxstb> I can't. 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> none... 09:32 < spazzium> uncompressed avi :) 09:32 < BHSPitLappy> mencoder.exe -ovc raw -ofps 15 -oac pcm -vf scale=176:-2,expand=176:132,format=bgr16 "Pacamajig.flv" -o Pacamajig.avi 09:32 < linuxstb> In which case, double-pass doesn't make any sense. 09:33 < spazzium> since there's no bitrate curve 09:33 < EvilDude> hahaha thats right 09:35 < courtc> btw, http://so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-skyward3.png 09:35 < spazzium> wow 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> i know it doesn't 09:35 < spazzium> that's slick 09:35 < courtc> I should probably get some sleep now... 09:35 < spazzium> hehe, you deserve it 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> what i meant was for mencoder to take more time putting better quality into its conversion 09:35 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: you can't take the crap out of mencoder 09:36 < linuxstb> It's not converting as such, it is just decompressing the input stream, and saving the uncompressed output. 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> also, back off-it's 3:35am :P 09:36 < EvilDude> hehe nice courtc, isn't someone also making the font for the monday tuesday etc different? 09:37 < linuxstb> The only thing I think you could change would be the scaling algorithm - mencoder has various to choose from. Check the man page. 09:37 < courtc> there's already a font: 09:37 < courtc> {0x0000, 0x0000, 0x6180, 0x0300, 0x7380, 0x0100, 0x7F9C, 0xF300, 09:37 < courtc> 0x6DB6, 0xDA00, 0x61B6, 0xD800, 0x61B6, 0xD800, 0x619C, 0xD800}, // Mon 09:37 < courtc> ;) 09:37 < linuxstb> There are also various other post-processing filters. But which ones make sense depend on the characteristics of your input file. But you could experiment with those as well. 09:38 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:38 < EvilDude> haha 09:38 < BHSPitLappy> well i get ugly frames that "pop" in during playback 09:38 < courtc> apparently felix put in some font support, I have yet to look at it. 09:38 < BHSPitLappy> at intervals 09:38 < EvilDude> cool 09:38 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: heh, that calendar looks like buttons 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> like a keyboard! 09:39 < courtc> I do need sleep though, lots more stuff to be done :/ 09:39 < courtc> `todos for me 09:39 < iplbot> Your issues: (#8) finish libitunesdb fixing, (#12) fix pz2 exec routines, (#18) beef up the slider, (#19) browser: reread directory when file deleted/renamed/moved/etc., (#20) look into colorizing sfonts, ... 09:39 < EvilDude> hm libitunesdb? what is it doing 09:39 < BHSPitLappy> being it's old self i presume :) 09:39 < courtc> fixing the broken-w-podcasts stuff.. 09:40 < EvilDude> ohh 09:40 < EvilDude> um 09:40 < EvilDude> if it was compiling on windows that would be so much easier 09:40 < EvilDude> I think its just broken mhod support if I remember 09:41 < courtc> I told you that like yesterday. 09:41 < courtc> I have it fixed here, but BHSPitLappy's iPod hates me. 09:41 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 09:42 < EvilDude> haha you did, but I also have a windows program that plays music from iPod ;) and I fixed it for that :P 09:42 < BHSPitLappy> you wrote it? 09:42 < EvilDude> My problem was that my code was shit and my program read the wrong length 09:42 < EvilDude> and tried to read many many many bytes =\ 09:42 < EvilDude> resulting in an our of memory coz vb sucks :D 09:42 < EvilDude> yeah I wrote a windows program that reads the iTunesDB and plays it 09:42 < EvilDude> sucks :) 09:43 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> what else have you done for the ipod? 09:43 < BHSPitLappy> besides chopper 09:43 < EvilDude> haha 09:43 * courtc wrote the first itunesdb parser for the ipod :p 09:43 < courtc> It was slow as all getout. 09:43 < EvilDude> the crappy writing of recorded wav files was me :) 09:44 < EvilDude> courtc: i wrote an iTunesDB parser ages ago in c, god damn vb sucks 09:44 < EvilDude> it was instant in parsing my iTunesDB 09:44 < EvilDude> my VB one takes > 6 seconds 09:44 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: aren't you supposed to be sleeping? 09:44 < courtc> EvilDude: instant on the desktop != instant on the ipod ;) 09:44 < EvilDude> oh and I also did some shoddy song queing stuff, like playing a playlist at once, shuffle repeat etc, thats about it 09:44 < EvilDude> haha i know ;) 09:44 < EvilDude> also 09:44 < EvilDude> working on Desktop != working on iPod 09:44 < EvilDude> which is why that thing died 09:45 < EvilDude> so wait, do you have a libitunesdb that needs testing courtc? 09:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 09:45 < BHSPitLappy> i think he does, tomorrow :) 09:45 < EvilDude> haha 09:45 < EvilDude> i dont even know if my 3g has ipl =\ 09:46 < BHSPitLappy> .. 09:46 < EvilDude> i think i restored it after i got my 5g 09:46 < BHSPitLappy> why? 09:46 * courtc shrugs, tomorrow... 09:46 < EvilDude> because I was gonna send it back to apple seein the battery life was about 2 hours :P 09:46 < EvilDude> but then i couldnt be bothered getting the claim forms etc =\ 09:46 < BHSPitLappy> so get one of those batteries from other places 09:46 < BHSPitLappy> they have kits and crap 09:46 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 09:47 < EvilDude> heh = money for no reaso 09:47 < EvilDude> reason* 09:47 < EvilDude> no use for 3g atm 09:47 < EvilDude> my dad says he'll use it but doesnt 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> like $20 bucks i heard 09:47 < EvilDude> heh but why? 09:47 < EvilDude> I have a 5g :D 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> and you could use it for recording, etc 09:47 < EvilDude> and for ipl i have x11 :) 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> meh 09:47 < EvilDude> that's why my 5g will do one day ;) 09:47 < BHSPitLappy> and your loyal beta tester base 09:48 < EvilDude> haha more than enough people on ipl that test 09:48 < EvilDude> and not enough people that code ;) 09:48 < BHSPitLappy> heh 09:48 < BHSPitLappy> i'm working on transitioning from the former to the latter 09:48 < EvilDude> haha it really isnt that hard 09:49 < BHSPitLappy> wanna tutor me? 09:49 < BHSPitLappy> :P 09:49 < EvilDude> what I recommend: get an idea for a module 09:49 < EvilDude> heh for the next half hour maybe ;) 09:49 < EvilDude> after that my dialup dies :p 09:49 < EvilDude> just get an idea of what you want to do 09:49 < EvilDude> or rather, an iDea :) 09:50 < EvilDude> preferably small and simple :p 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> ok 09:51 < EvilDude> got an idea yet :P? 09:51 < EvilDude> a simple game 09:51 < EvilDude> anything 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> how about a simple math prog? 09:51 < BHSPitLappy> with a text entry box, and an output field 09:51 < EvilDude> like what? 09:52 < courtc> EvilDude: ~[todos #26] 09:52 < iplbot> wtf is wrong with the backlight timer? 09:52 < BHSPitLappy> we could start simple... 09:52 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: ~[todos #32] 09:52 < iplbot> weeks start on sunday, damnit 09:52 < BHSPitLappy> just a input squared 09:52 < EvilDude> heh maths = parsing through text = not so fun for a starter project, not in c 09:52 < BHSPitLappy> heh, courtc 09:52 < EvilDude> oo backlight timer 09:53 < BHSPitLappy> it appears we've recieved assignments :( 09:53 < EvilDude> i'll see if i can make my colinux access the net over dial up =\ 09:53 < EvilDude> haha thats even easier ;) less coding more logic :P 09:53 * BHSPitLappy actually finds out what colinux is now 09:53 < EvilDude> heh it looks simple 09:54 < EvilDude> but its a pain to get the networking up :P 09:54 < EvilDude> and it still doesnt work with dial up for me =\ 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> so does that really work? 09:54 < EvilDude> what? 09:54 < EvilDude> colinux? 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> seems sneaky-evil 09:54 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:54 < BHSPitLappy> what happened, linuxstb_ 09:55 < BHSPitLappy> you grew a tail. 09:55 < EvilDude> heh colinux works awesome :) 09:55 < BHSPitLappy> take up a lot of space? 09:56 < EvilDude> not really 09:56 * spazzium bit the bullet and is compiling a dualboot gentoo... 09:56 < BHSPitLappy> i don't think i really need it... 09:56 < EvilDude> heh dual boot didnt work for me 09:56 < spazzium> no? 09:56 < BHSPitLappy> it doesn't surpass any windows limits, does it 09:56 < EvilDude> too used to MSN + mirc + iTunes 09:56 < EvilDude> so now i just use colinux 09:56 < spazzium> yeah, that's why I have the mac 09:56 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:56 < BHSPitLappy> eew, mIRC? 09:56 < EvilDude> ah i dont have a mac ;) 09:56 < spazzium> it supports most of my desktop needs 09:56 < EvilDude> haha whats a better windows irc client? 09:56 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:56 < spazzium> on windows? none. 09:56 < EvilDude> looked around but settled on mirc after some scripts and customizing 09:56 < EvilDude> yeah didnt think so 09:56 < BHSPitLappy> huh/ 09:57 < BHSPitLappy> XChat... 09:57 < EvilDude> ok this is awesome- seems my colinux can access the net :D just that it cant access the nameserver 09:57 < EvilDude> time to google a new nameserver :D 09:57 < courtc> irssi 09:57 < EvilDude> not sleeping yet! :O :P? 09:57 < spazzium> heh 09:57 * BHSPitLappy sets mode courtc +sleep 09:57 * courtc sleeps 09:57 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 09:57 * BHSPitLappy sets mode BHSPitLappy +millionaire 09:57 < BHSPitLappy> ...damnit. 09:58 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: you always on dial-up? 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> or are you just visiting somewhere or something 09:59 < EvilDude> hell no =\ 09:59 < EvilDude> on "holidays" in india - parents wanted to see their parents etc 09:59 < EvilDude> at home got broadband :D 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> when are you at home? 09:59 < EvilDude> going from 10mb/s to 40kb/s is VERY painful 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> 40kb/s? 09:59 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@23.15.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:59 < BHSPitLappy> what kind of crazy-ass high speed dialup is THAT? 10:00 < EvilDude> kb = kiloBITS 10:00 < BHSPitLappy> ah 10:00 < EvilDude> 10mb/s megaBITS 10:00 < BHSPitLappy> i'm too insensitive to that :P 10:00 < EvilDude> about 1.2megabytes to about 4 kilobytes :P 10:00 < EvilDude> its harsh \ 10:00 < EvilDude> home in about 15 days 10:00 < EvilDude> cant wait till then 10:01 < BHSPitLappy> and that would be 5KB/s :P 10:01 < EvilDude> heh good 10:01 < EvilDude> well should be ;) 10:01 < BHSPitLappy> well, when you get home you can give me a vnc presentation on "Intro to C for the iPod" 10:01 < EvilDude> 4bk down, tcpip needs upload though ;) 10:01 < EvilDude> haha 10:02 < EvilDude> trust me you dont need any of that 10:02 < EvilDude> what i'd recommend 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> hehe 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> i know 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> hands-on 10:02 < EvilDude> get a module that you find interesting 10:02 < EvilDude> and just edit the .c files 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> but i need someone by my side :P 10:02 < EvilDude> and see what happens! 10:02 < EvilDude> and you'll be like... wow! 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> we're learning cpp at school this semester 10:02 < BHSPitLappy> i've shared my sentiments so far with this channel... 10:03 < EvilDude> why dont you just open a .c file and play around ;) 10:03 < BHSPitLappy> visual studio... not to mention the teacher isn't exactly "there" 10:03 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 10:03 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@58.165.248.14] has joined #ipodlinux 10:03 < BHSPitLappy> i have 10:03 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: everybody starts somewhere 10:04 < BHSPitLappy> my iPodLoader2 says "Steve-O's iPod Loader" at the top of the menu screen :) 10:04 < spazzium> heh 10:04 < BHSPitLappy> and pz2 says Steve-O's iPod as a header 10:04 < BHSPitLappy> heh 10:04 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy, still has me on ignore? 10:04 < EvilDude> haha BHSPitLappy has spazzium on ignore? 10:05 < DarthLappy> Yay! I think I finally fixed my laptop screen! 10:05 < EvilDude> ok fuck the name server 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> so what module would be very easy for someone to understand what each statement is doing? 10:05 < spazzium> he started it last night I believe 10:05 < EvilDude> I'm sure cvn co can work by ip 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> yes, i do :) 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> how'd you know? 10:05 < EvilDude> BHSPitLappy: there's a module called sample module or something 10:05 < spazzium> I'm a goddamn brain surgeon. 10:05 < EvilDude> BHSPitLappy spazzium was saying, ;) 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> MyModule? 10:05 < EvilDude> yeah that one 10:05 < EvilDude> it's pretty simple 10:05 < EvilDude> fun to play around 10:05 < BHSPitLappy> k 10:05 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:06 < EvilDude> time to get the ip of the svn server and finally update 10:07 < EvilDude> oh bullcrap =\ 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> yes! 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> what 10:07 < EvilDude> its linked to the non IP version and so i cant upate :( 10:07 < EvilDude> update* 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> aw 10:07 < EvilDude> time to get this damn name server running somehow :S 10:07 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> can't you just svn from cygwin? 10:07 < EvilDude> i hate cygwin :p 10:07 < BHSPitLappy> or is that besides the issue 10:08 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: does what it needs to (sometimes) :P 10:08 < BHSPitMonkey> and that's why my desktop is linux 24/7 :) 10:08 < EvilDude> yeah :p 10:09 < EvilDude> heh yeah 10:09 < BHSPitLappy> as you can see, my home internet just came back! yay! 10:09 < BHSPitLappy> time to get off the neighbor's wifi now :P 10:09 < EvilDude> rofl 10:10 < BHSPitMonkey> rofl iron? 10:10 < BHSPitMonkey> roflcopter? 10:10 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 < BHSPitMonkey> lol we exchanged those types of words at school today... 10:10 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:10 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 10:11 < EvilDude> heh 10:12 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:13 < BHSPitMonkey> it's 4am 10:13 < EvilDude> almost 4PM here 10:13 < BHSPitMonkey> if i left the house to go to school exactly 4 hours from now, i'd be tardy 10:13 < DarthLappy> 9PM :D 10:14 < EvilDude> heh 10:14 < BHSPitMonkey> when i vnc into my laptop from school, this channel better not be dead 10:14 < EvilDude> what the fuck :| 10:14 < EvilDude> its workin! 10:14 < EvilDude> i fixed it :D :D 10:14 < BHSPitMonkey> what 10:14 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 10:14 < BHSPitMonkey> IP 10:14 < EvilDude> nameserver works 10:14 < EvilDude> its just DAMN slow 10:15 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 10:15 < EvilDude> because I'm using an external nameserver 10:15 < BHSPitMonkey> i just svn'd up in like 5 sec. 10:15 < EvilDude> coz i cbf finding nameserver for this connection 10:15 < DarthLappy> My laptop screen has a whole bunch o' little bumps in the side from my evil screwdriver 10:16 < BHSPitMonkey> lovely lady lumps? 10:16 < BHSPitMonkey> wow. 10:16 < BHSPitMonkey> skywards is soo pretty. 10:16 * spazzium agrees 10:16 < spazzium> NOT THAT BHSPitMonkey can hear me. 10:16 < BHSPitMonkey> oh, monkey can :) 10:16 < DarthLappy> Lol 10:16 < spazzium> heh 10:16 < spazzium> k, then :) 10:17 < BHSPitMonkey> and if you really wanted to be heard, you should have changed your nick :P 10:17 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:17 < spazzium> not neccessarily, you could have ignored by hostname wildcards 10:17 < spazzium> or wait... do they hostmask on this server? 10:17 < BHSPitMonkey> but i didn't :) 10:17 < EvilDude> heh updating after a month on dial up takes time 10:18 < BHSPitMonkey> i have *spazzium*!*@* or something 10:18 < spazzium> ahh 10:18 < spazzium> so the question I wanted to ask you earlier, you ARE indeed making your own podium sans font? 10:18 < BHSPitMonkey> i did. 10:18 < BHSPitMonkey> there's just some fine-tuning to be done now. 10:18 < spazzium> oh, by just pulling out the bitmap and making one? 10:19 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah. 10:19 < spazzium> I'm gonna make an aqua one in sfont most likely 10:19 < EvilDude> anyway time to go 10:19 < EvilDude> now that i have an update supposedly, I can see if this works :d 10:19 < EvilDude> cya 10:19 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.147] has quit [] 10:20 < BHSPitMonkey> http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4985/familiar8jk.png 10:20 < BHSPitMonkey> ^podium 10:20 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: i made aquafont as a fnt today 10:20 < BHSPitMonkey> something's not right though 10:21 < spazzium> oh? 10:21 < spazzium> sfonts seem to be easier to put together 10:21 < spazzium> assuming I can get a clean image 10:21 < BHSPitMonkey> there's some step in the conversion that makes it a fixed size, and i think that's what held me back 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ha, not really 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> making that sfont sucked ass 10:22 < spazzium> podium sans is an sfont? 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> it doesn't even exist as a scalable font 10:22 < spazzium> right 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> nor look good 10:22 < BHSPitMonkey> did you see my screenshot 10:23 < spazzium> yeah... it didn't look that bad I thought 10:23 < spazzium> the spacing wasn't perfect 10:23 < spazzium> but 10:23 < BHSPitMonkey> spacing issues 10:23 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 10:24 < BHSPitMonkey> k 10:24 < BHSPitMonkey> fixed the "r" 10:24 < spazzium> :) 10:24 < BHSPitMonkey> now for that damn "w" 10:24 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 10:25 < BHSPitMonkey> got it 10:30 < DarthLappy> BHSPitLappy, Looks groovy 10:33 < BHSPitMonkey> uploading new screenshot 10:34 < BHSPitLappy> thanks 10:34 < BHSPitMonkey> http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9706/podiumvideoss3gu.png 10:34 < BHSPitMonkey> the only other spacing issue i see there is with the "x" 10:35 < spazzium> that's looking pretty nice 10:36 < spazzium> are all the fonts supposed to be 12pt? 10:36 < BHSPitMonkey> ah, and that was a result of fixing "w" 10:36 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: that's pretty much the standard, but doesn't have to be i think 10:36 < spazzium> k 10:36 < BHSPitMonkey> look in fonts.lst, some aren't 10:38 < BHSPitMonkey> the only problem is when it tries to show podium as black against a colored background 10:38 < BHSPitMonkey> it really only works for white 10:39 < spazzium> because of the aliasing 10:39 < spazzium> hmmm 10:39 < BHSPitMonkey> i know 10:39 < BHSPitMonkey> and i managed to solve that for the white 10:40 < BHSPitMonkey> the white version looks great on black, on the blue selection, etc 10:40 < BHSPitMonkey> but the black would have to suffer quality 10:40 < spazzium> hmmm 10:41 < spazzium> I think it's bedtime, but I have some ideas 10:41 < DarthLappy> Hmmm, the capital P jumps 10:42 < BHSPitMonkey> how? 10:43 < DarthLappy> It's higher... 10:43 < BHSPitMonkey> not really 10:43 < DarthLappy> And spacing is still a bit weird in places 10:43 < BHSPitMonkey> it's anti-aliasing on the top edge is a little darker gray, i softened it now 10:43 < BHSPitMonkey> just for you. 10:43 < BHSPitMonkey> DarthLappy: be specific 10:44 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 10:44 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: Aiken, the only sfont I have manages fairly well on the nano 10:44 < DarthLappy> On 'JUMPS' the S is a tad too far to the right. 10:44 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: see how well it manages on Red.cs :P 10:45 < BHSPitMonkey> ok 10:45 < DarthLappy> I need more screenshot! 10:45 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: still looking fairly well, could be my small screen size 10:46 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 10:46 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium: aiken is the only sfont in svn, i think 10:46 < BHSPitMonkey> and it totally chokes up on the Red scheme 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> ack 10:49 < BHSPitLappy> what the hell 10:49 < spazzium> probably screen size, yours is 5g right? 10:50 < BHSPitMonkey> nano 10:50 < spazzium> oh 10:53 < DarthLappy> Heh 10:58 < BHSPitMonkey> pretty good now 10:59 < DarthLappy> Groovy. Screeny-screen time 11:02 < Zyrill> any idea why make fails with "make[1]: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Command not found"? i did install it just now 11:02 < DarthLappy> It means that arm-uclinux-elf-gcc can't be found? 11:03 -!- Sound-Mind [n=Spencer@pcp0010599582pcs.catonv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:03 < Zyrill> really, einstein 11:03 < Zyrill> and why is that? 11:03 < DarthLappy> Not in your path? 11:04 < Zyrill> doesn't the install script put it somewhere in my path? 11:04 < spazzium> nope 11:04 < DarthLappy> Nup 11:04 < Zyrill> where does it put it? 11:04 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:04 < DarthLappy> I think /usr/local somewhere 11:04 < Zyrill> hm, thx... i'll investigate 11:05 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:06 < BHSPitMonkey> k, screenie: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6733/podiumvideoss25na.png_ 11:06 < BHSPitMonkey> main menu: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4193/podiumvideoss36hw.png 11:07 < BHSPitMonkey> it's after 5AM 11:07 < spazzium> images aren't loading :( 11:07 < BHSPitMonkey> school in 3 hours. 11:07 < spazzium> wow 11:07 < spazzium> that looks nice 11:07 < DarthLappy> First isn't, second is 11:08 < DarthLappy> Very nice 11:08 < Zyrill> lol man! i suck... 11:08 < DarthLappy> At? 11:08 < Zyrill> suse... 11:08 < Zyrill> where does suse put it's .bashrc and .alias and stuff? 11:08 < Zyrill> first timer and everything is different from redhat argh! 11:08 < spazzium> wow that reallly looks great BHSPitMonkey 11:08 < DarthLappy> ~/.bash_profile 11:09 < spazzium> Zyrill: .bashrc hasn't changed :) 11:09 < Zyrill> do i have to create it first? there's not a single file to be found in ~ 11:09 < Zyrill> neither .alias nor anything else 11:09 < spazzium> yeah you should have to create it 11:09 < spazzium> you can source from /etc/profile if you like 11:09 < Zyrill> thx... i'll go have a look there 11:09 * BHSPitMonkey uploads a screen of inverted podium 11:10 < spazzium> can you upload the sfont while you're at it? :) 11:10 < BHSPitMonkey> http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6351/podiumvideoss46ay.png 11:11 < BHSPitMonkey> i'll ask a dev to commit it tomorrow 11:11 < spazzium> nice! 11:11 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: that looks incredible! 11:11 < BHSPitMonkey> thanks 11:11 < BHSPitMonkey> well, now many can realize their dreams of the apple fw inverted (almost :) ) 11:12 * spazzium rubs hands 11:12 < spazzium> GET COMPILING GENTOO 11:17 < BHSPitMonkey> ugh 11:17 < BHSPitMonkey> linking podzilla takes forever 11:31 -!- DarthLappy2 [n=Darth@58.165.248.14] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@58.165.248.14] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:32 -!- DarthLappy2 is now known as DarthLappy 11:33 < BHSPitLappy> o m g ! 11:33 < DarthLappy> ^_- 11:33 < BHSPitLappy> podium sans with familiar 11:34 < BHSPitLappy> it looks THE SAME as apple on my nano 11:34 < BHSPitLappy> a-mazing. 11:34 < DarthLappy> *pok* 11:35 < preglow> doesn't apple use myriad pro? 11:38 < BHSPitLappy> for nano's and 5g's, it uses Podium Sans 11:38 < BHSPitLappy> dunno about the rest. 11:39 < preglow> where can you get that? 11:39 < BHSPitLappy> for iPL? 11:40 < preglow> for whatever, just want to have a look at it 11:40 < preglow> i thought it looked kind of like myriad pro 11:40 < BHSPitLappy> possibly tomorrow, if the devs accept it into svn :) 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> it's an SFont by the way 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> hey preglow, i've actually got a question for you 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> do you know anything about making .fnt files? 11:41 < preglow> mno, not really 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> i'm actually using the converter in the rockbox tools branch 11:41 < BHSPitLappy> ok 11:42 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@219.141.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 11:45 < preglow> don't even know the format, heh 11:58 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: check on the sfont script for gimp 11:58 < spazzium> works well with tweaks 12:08 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:25 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-154-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:26 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 12:26 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:31 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 12:37 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:38 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:38 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 12:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 < preglow> anyone know how long retailos waits before it goes into deep sleep? 12:52 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-154-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 < Zyrill> do i have to have PZ0 installed to install PZ2? (win) 12:53 < Zyrill> i mean how do i make my ipod actually parse the "start"-file... i have to have booted up linux already, isn't that so? 13:07 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@58.165.248.14] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:31 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:44 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:04 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:07 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:10 < Lex> hmm 14:12 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-048-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 < BHSPitLappy2> preglow: 12 hours, I believe 14:28 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 14:29 < BHSPitLappy> Zyrill: it needs to be in your /etc/rc (startup script) 14:30 < preglow> BHSPitLappy: sounds like a long time to keep the ram living just in case someone wants to use it 14:32 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:32 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 14:35 -!- Paul_The_Nerd [n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:36 -!- noetik [n=noetik@pd95b4fd6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:36 < Paul_The_Nerd> Anyone around mind a small question about a nano? 14:37 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:38 < BHSPitLappy> preglow, I never question josh :P 14:38 < BHSPitLappy> Paul, don't need to ask to ask... 14:38 < Paul_The_Nerd> Well, there is that nice think in the topic about 4g ipods and "don't ask" 14:40 < Paul_The_Nerd> I'm getting "init: exec rc failed", "init: exec of single user shell failed", and "init /bin/inetd respawning too fast" problems, and I don't really know enough to figure out what to do about such things. 14:42 < preglow> inetd???? 14:42 < Paul_The_Nerd> Don't ask me, I didn't write this think! 14:42 < Paul_The_Nerd> thing 14:42 < Paul_The_Nerd> :-P 14:43 < preglow> starting inetd on an ipod sounds like a great way to waste some resources 14:45 < Paul_The_Nerd> Ethernet over firewire? 14:47 < BHSPitLappy> Paul_The_Nerd, did it used to boot? 14:47 < BHSPitLappy> how did you install 14:49 < Paul_The_Nerd> Create an ext2 partition, put the appropriate files there. I am using a, err, non-standard loader. But it seems to load the kernel, the kernel says it mounts the ext2 partition, then the problems occur. 14:53 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FCF6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:53 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:55 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FCF6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:59 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:59 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 15:04 < BHSPitLappy> morning, aegray. 15:05 < aegray> hi 15:06 < BHSPitLappy> Paul_The_Nerd, use the official ipodloader or ipodloader2, from cvs and svn, respectively 15:06 < BHSPitLappy> (if you can, otherwise download a tarball of the standard loader) 15:07 < Paul_The_Nerd> BHSPitLappy: By the time the kernel is successfully loaded, should it matter how it was? 15:07 < davidc__> anyone else see ipodlinux.org as being down? 15:08 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:08 < aegray> no 15:08 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:11 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:15 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:15 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 15:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray_ ] by ChanServ 15:44 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:45 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:46 -!- disident [n=disident@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 15:57 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-225-70.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodLinux 15:58 < Zyrill> BHSPitLappy: so for my /etc/rc to load, linux needs to start - hence my question: how do i get my ipod to start linux? 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18:27 < BleuLlama> just vnc/ssh tunnel 18:27 < courtc> ahh.. 18:29 * courtc wants a 'screen' for forwarded X apps. 18:29 < courtc> That would be awesome. 18:30 < BleuLlama> huh? 18:30 < courtc> hmm.. might be an X extention for it already.. 18:30 < courtc> extension* 18:30 < BleuLlama> oh. i think i understand 18:31 < courtc> connect to X apps already started. 18:31 < BleuLlama> yep 18:32 < BleuLlama> well, you can always run a vncserver 18:32 < BleuLlama> then just reconnect to that from anywhere 18:32 < BleuLlama> leaving the x apps running 18:32 < BleuLlama> it's a screen-level action though, not an appwindow-level action 18:32 < courtc> Yep. 18:37 < Lex_> hmm 18:38 < Lex_> now i can try to install that new bootloader 18:39 < BleuLlama> do or do not... there is no 'try' 18:39 < Lex_> :) 18:39 < Lex_> where's the wiki page for that 18:39 < Lex_> http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 18:40 < Lex_> hmm so.. :o 18:40 < Lex_> ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 orig_firmware.bin 18:41 < Lex_> then ./make_fw -g photo -v -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin loader.bin? 18:41 < Lex_> or do i change photo to 4g? :o 18:41 < courtc> which do you have? 18:42 < courtc> (*cough* not that it really matters) 18:42 < Lex_> photo, 604 18:42 < Lex_> color :o 18:43 < courtc> use 'color' then 18:43 < Lex_> ok.. 18:43 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:46 < Lex_> toolchain first.. :( 18:49 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:59 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-29-83-197.indy.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:00 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-29-83-197.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:06 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:07 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 19:09 < BHSPitLappy> hello 19:09 < BHSPitLappy> good afternoon, people with svn access :) 19:10 < BHSPitLappy> I have a new font that's pretty ready for commital, i think :D 19:11 * spazzium cheers 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> i held my nano using Familiar, (my header color modification), and my new Podium Sans SFont, up beside my friend's using retailos 19:11 < courtc> The general procedure is to send what you want in cvs/svn to patches@ with a description and whatnot 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> we could NOT tell a difference except the number of lines 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> i'll probably wait till i get home then. 19:11 < BHSPitLappy> vnc is uncomfortable to work on... 19:12 < BHSPitLappy> s/on/over 19:13 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: can you taks a picture of the nanos side by side? 19:16 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c144008.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["leaving"] 19:16 -!- dexem [n=dani@212.97.174.149] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < Lex_> make: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Komentoa ei löytynyt 19:18 < Lex_> :o 19:18 < Lex_> *command not found 19:18 < BHSPitLappy> i could take a picture of mine in each OS, and put then side-by-side on the computer 19:18 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-048-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:19 * BHSPitLappy wishes he had his own digital camera :( 19:20 < courtc> Lex_: ~[toolchain] 19:20 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. [from courtc] 19:20 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c144008.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < Lex_> courtc: wtf? :P 19:20 < Lex_> hmm, back to 24 -> 19:20 < Lex_> i did that 19:20 < Lex_> all of that 19:21 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: I think side by side nanos would be much cooler. 19:21 < courtc> like 67 times cooler 19:23 -!- Landwaster [n=chatzill@208.40.130.82] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- Landwaster [n=chatzill@208.40.130.82] has quit [Client Quit] 19:24 < BleuLlama> ignore courtc. it'll really be 73.4 times cooler 19:24 < courtc> I dunno, that's stretching it. 19:24 < BleuLlama> it's a fact. 19:25 < BleuLlama> it's been measured multiple times 19:26 < courtc> multiple being 0? 19:28 < courtc> hmm.. I should make my c apps have more exciting variable names, like once, multiple, a_few, lots, etc. 19:28 < courtc> (gdb) p multiple 19:29 < courtc> $1 = 0 19:30 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:33 < Lex_> courtc: do i have to have gcc 3.4.3? :o 19:33 < courtc> looks like it. 19:34 < Lex_> how i can do it on ubuntu :o 19:34 < Lex_> i hate apt 19:34 < Lex_> it's so.. 19:34 < courtc> `toolchain 19:34 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. [from courtc] 19:34 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 < Lex_> yeah, toolchain 19:34 < Lex_> but i need that gcc 3.4.3 first 19:34 < Lex_> root@xiit:/usr/src/ipodloader2# make 19:34 < Lex_> Compiling startup.s 19:34 < Lex_> make: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Komentoa ei löytynyt 19:35 < Lex_> = command not foun 19:35 < Lex_> d 19:35 < courtc> Lex_: ~[toolchain] 19:35 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. [from courtc] 19:35 < Lex_> ;o 19:35 < Lex_> i'm reading it 19:35 < Lex_> and i've done that 19:35 < Lex_> but i'm still getting that 19:35 -!- Matador_of_Shame [n=sysexy@67.139.183.222] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 < Lex_> but, do i have to do that building your own-section? 19:36 < courtc> no 19:38 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Dropped my laptop."] 19:38 < Matador_of_Shame> will running the ipodsetup from apple remove ipodlinux? 19:43 < josh_> yes 19:44 < Matador_of_Shame> k 19:47 -!- Matador_of_Shame [n=sysexy@67.139.183.222] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:58 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:59 < Lex_> bunzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; 19:59 < Lex_> oh 19:59 < Lex_> says arm-uclinux-elf-tools-base 19:59 < wundaboy> wiki's are cool! 20:00 -!- bushblowz|sleep is now known as bushblowz 20:00 < BleuLlama> inappropriate apostrophe's are not. 20:00 < courtc> ^ 20:00 < courtc> I missed. :/ 20:00 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:00 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:01 < BleuLlama> `apostrophe 20:01 < iplbot> apostrophe is http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif [from BleuLlama] 20:01 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:02 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3571689.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 < Lex_> no, doesn't work :SS 20:07 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 20:09 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:16 -!- DocterD [n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-094-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3571689.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:19 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["o rly?"] 20:25 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 20:27 -!- holiday41 [n=none@spike.wcta.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:30 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 -!- dexem [n=dani@212.97.174.149] has quit ["Abandonando"] 20:32 -!- DocterD [n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-094-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:34 -!- DocterD [n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-091-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:42 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #iPodLinux 20:49 < BVegan> Hi, all, here again to try to get pz2 on my ipod. Warning - rank beginner here. Mac OS 10.3.9, 3G iPod 10 gig 20:49 < josh_> hi there 20:49 < BVegan> Hi, Josh 20:49 < josh_> followed the directions at ~[wiki Podzilla]? 20:49 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [19479 bytes] 20:50 < josh_> (I'm one of the main developers for pz2, so I should be able to help you if you're having any trouble :-) 20:50 < BVegan> I have tried. I am a total beginner and the instructions are somewhat above my understanding level 20:50 < BVegan> I have installed the installer from soundforge 20:51 < BVegan> just reinstalled it. it occurs to me to make sure it's working, so I will do that right now. 20:53 < BVegan> Ok, it appears to be fine. 20:53 < josh_> wait a second, what installer? 20:53 < BVegan> I'll tell you - hang on 20:53 < josh_> pz2 doesn't have an installer yet... if you need one, you should probably stick with legacy pz or one of the other *zillas for now. 20:54 < BVegan> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipodlinuxinstl/iPod-Linux_Installer_0.3c.dmg?download 20:55 < BVegan> I'm just telling you what I've done so far. 20:55 < BVegan> The one I just put in is the one that is on there now. 20:55 < josh_> ah ok 20:55 < josh_> get iPodLinux installed and working, then you can try installing pz2 20:55 < BVegan> I think I'm bright enough to follow along, I just don't know linux. Taught myself enough c a few years back to write a weight converter I needed, but don't remember most of it now. 20:55 < BVegan> Right, iPodlinux is installed and working. 20:56 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-138-89-96-7.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 < BVegan> Now I want to try to install pz2, but the wiki is clearly written for people who know more than I do :-) 20:57 < josh_> ah ok 20:57 < BVegan> BHSPitMonkey gave me the impression that if anyone can help you can :-) 20:57 < josh_> heh, well I'll try :-) 20:57 < josh_> what's your iPod named? 20:57 < BVegan> By the way I downloaded that whole tools thing file by file the other night, don't know if I need it. 20:57 < BVegan> It's called BettPod 20:57 < courtc> mungus 20:58 < courtc> # hostname 20:58 < courtc> mungus 20:59 < BVegan> The tools thing I refer to are the files located at: http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools/podzilla2/modules/ 20:59 < josh_> oh, you don't need to grab all that 20:59 < josh_> you just need the ~[pz2 nightlies] 20:59 < iplbot> http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds [from josh_] 20:59 < BVegan> ok, lemme go there - one sec. 20:59 < josh_> see ~[wiki Podzilla] and look at the instructions for nightly builds at the bottom 20:59 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [19479 bytes] 20:59 < josh_> (they were just added yesterday) 20:59 < josh_> you need the highest-numbered version for each of appearance, podzilla2, and pzmodules 20:59 < courtc> josh_: can you make sure those nightlies have an up-to-date ttk/src/menu.c? 21:00 < josh_> courtc: they should, why? 21:00 < josh_> svnbot automatically rebuilds pz2 whenever ttk is updated 21:00 < BVegan> Ok, do you want me to go try to figure out the instructions, then come back if I tank out? 21:00 < courtc> someone had a bug that I fixed... 21:02 < BVegan> Ok, I'm looking at the instructions. Can I paste in the bit I dont' understand? I learned the other night that pasting in things isn't good form over here :-) got yelled at, repeatedly 21:02 < josh_> you can paste it, but only if it's <= 3 lines 21:02 < BVegan> I should also tell you that although I've been using macs for years, I only just opened terminal for the first time the other day. 21:02 < josh_> any more than that, paste it in #ipodlinux.flood 21:02 < BVegan> Ok, I'll do it in 2 goes, then. Here's the first one: 21:03 < BVegan> # gunzip podzilla2-NNN.gz 21:03 < BVegan> # install -m 755 podzilla2-NNN /mnt/ipod/bin/podzilla 21:03 < BVegan> # mkdir -p /mnt/ipod/usr/lib /mnt/ipod/usr/share 21:03 < BVegan> and, here is the second one: 21:03 < BVegan> # ( cd /mnt/ipod/usr/lib; unzip $OLDPWD/pzmodules-NNN.zip ) 21:03 < BVegan> # ( cd /mnt/ipod/usr/share; unzip $OLDPWD/appearance-NNN.zip ) 21:03 < BVegan> Where should I do this? 21:03 < BVegan> In terminal? 21:03 < courtc> first application i ever used on osx was the terminal 21:03 < josh_> BVegan: yes, in terminal. 21:03 < josh_> type "sudo bash" first 21:04 < BVegan> Ok from the very first prompt that I see? 21:04 < josh_> yes 21:04 < josh_> then you'll want to change directory to the place you downloaded those 3 files 21:04 < BVegan> Oh - hang on - let me download the files first. Hang on one more sec, ok? 21:04 < josh_> for simplicity, download them to your desktop and cd ~/Desktop 21:04 < josh_> ok, np 21:06 < BVegan> should I unzip them first? 21:06 < BVegan> Like in stuffit or something? 21:06 < josh_> no, keep them zipped. 21:07 < BVegan> ok, I'm gonna do the sudo thing now. 21:07 < BVegan> it wants a password 21:07 < josh_> type in your password 21:07 < BVegan> ok 21:07 < josh_> (the password for your user) 21:07 < BVegan> ok now it says root# 21:08 < josh_> ok, now type cd ~/Desktop and press Enter 21:08 < BVegan> now it says ~/Desktop root# 21:08 < josh_> ok 21:08 < courtc> rm -rf ... 21:09 < aegray> hhahaha 21:09 < josh_> BVegan: don't listen to courtc, he's just kidding 21:09 < aegray> he meant to say rm -rf / 21:09 < josh_> aegray: NO. 21:09 < josh_> BVegan: Don't listen to them, they're joking. 21:09 < BVegan> Oh, you are the ONLY one I'm listening to. Hear that, jokers? :-D 21:09 < BVegan> :-) 21:09 < BVegan> LOL 21:09 < josh_> (If you *were* to do that, it would wipe out all your data. So don't.) 21:09 < BVegan> I am imagining what woudl happen if I typed in all that stuff 21:09 < josh_> rm -rf / = erase everything 21:10 < coob> rm -rf / = super happy fun mode 21:10 < BVegan> someone sent me a program when I was on windows that made it look like you had reformatted your hard drive, only you hadn't - it was extremely funny after you got over the cardiac infarction 21:10 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 21:10 < josh_> anyway, now type ls *-???.* 21:10 < courtc> ooh, someone knows what an infarction is! 21:11 < aegray> ls `rm -rf /` 21:11 < josh_> no. 21:11 < josh_> BVegan: don't listen to aegray, courtc, or coob. 21:11 < BVegan> Believe me, I'm not. 21:11 < josh_> ok :-) 21:11 < courtc> BleuLlama: your turn 21:11 < josh_> what did that command output? 21:11 < BVegan> I should type the question mark thingy with asterisks, right? 21:11 < josh_> yes 21:11 < BVegan> hang on here goes 21:11 < josh_> ls *-???.* 21:11 < josh_> star dash ??? dot star 21:11 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < BVegan> appearance-714.zip podzilla2-709.gz pzmodules-713.zip 21:12 < josh_> ok, looks good. 21:12 < BVegan> cool. 21:12 < josh_> ls /Volumes/*iPod* 21:12 < josh_> er 21:12 < josh_> ls /Volumes/*Pod* 21:12 < BVegan> ok, here goes 21:12 < BVegan> want me to paste in, in three-line bits, what I got from that? 21:13 < josh_> ah no 21:13 < BVegan> ok 21:13 < BVegan> wont 21:13 < josh_> just the first line 21:13 < BVegan> .trashes Recordings 21:13 < josh_> ah oops 21:13 < josh_> my fault, forgot an option. ls -d /Volumes/*Pod* 21:13 < BVegan> Bill Cosby had a funny thing about doctors saying "oops" 21:13 < BVegan> :-) 21:14 < BVegan> ok, hang on I'll type that 21:14 < BleuLlama> courtc: ? 21:14 < BVegan> oops 21:14 < BVegan> here is what it said: /Volumes/BettPod 21:14 < courtc> BleuLlama: < josh_> BVegan: don't listen to aegray, courtc, or coob. 21:15 < BleuLlama> oh. yn 21:15 < josh_> BVegan: ok, cool 21:15 < BleuLlama> um 21:15 < BleuLlama> whatever they said is cool with me 21:15 < BVegan> yes, it's fun with beginners day :-) 21:15 < josh_> BVegan: cool, I'll be back in a few minutes - have to take dog out 21:15 < BVegan> cool, go ahead 21:15 < BVegan> give him/her a pet for me 21:16 < josh_> but you should be able to just run those commands you pasted above (the # isn't part of the command) replacing /mnt/ipod with /Volumes/BettPod 21:16 < BVegan> I'll try it while you are out 21:16 < BVegan> one at a time? 21:17 < courtc> find / -iname .kext -exec mv '{}' ~/Desktop \; 21:18 < BVegan> un-huh. what happens when you type THAT, courtc? 21:18 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@219.141.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [] 21:18 < BVegan> :-) 21:18 < BleuLlama> yeah. that should do it 21:18 < BVegan> I imagine it would do something . . . 21:18 < BVegan> not sure I"d like it, tho 21:19 -!- poolio [n=poolio@pcp0011735036pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 < josh_> BVegan: yeah, one at a time, but replace NNN with ??? 21:22 < BleuLlama> should the wheel or the button change clock faces? 21:23 < courtc> button. 21:23 < courtc> wheel's to easy to use accidentally, especiall on the 1g 21:23 < BleuLlama> oh 21:23 < BleuLlama> you think you're so smart? 21:23 < BleuLlama> so be it. 21:24 < BVegan> josh, you still there? 21:24 < courtc> Did you ever shake your 1g to see how many times you could get the wheel to rotate? 21:24 < josh_> yep 21:24 < BVegan> what's the "actual mount point" of my ipod? 21:24 < BleuLlama> yeah. all the time 21:24 < BleuLlama> hehe 21:24 < josh_> /Volumes/BettPod 21:24 < BVegan> ok, hang on. 21:24 < BleuLlama> that reminds me. i was thinking this morning how useful it would be (to us) if apple were to put their motion sensor into ipods 21:25 < BleuLlama> clear the screen in poddraw? just shake the ipod 21:25 < BleuLlama> heh 21:25 < courtc> That'd be awesome. 21:25 < josh_> hell yeah 21:25 < courtc> play tunnel by moving the ipod... 21:26 -!- Luben [n=kvirc@h152n1fls308o1032.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < courtc> a portable music playing level. 21:27 < courtc> http://pallit.lhi.is/palli/dashlevel/ 21:28 < Luben> Hiya all 21:29 < BVegan> Josh, 21:29 < BVegan> mkdir -p /mnt/ipod/usr/lib /Volumes/BettPod/usr/share worked. 21:29 < josh_> er 21:29 < BVegan> Had trouble with: 21:29 < BVegan> ( cd mkdir -p /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib /Volumes/BettPod/usr/share/usr/lib; unzip $OLDPWD/pzmodules-713.zip ) 21:29 < josh_> you need to replace *all* occurrences of /mnt/ipod with /Volumes/BettPod 21:29 < BVegan> It said: 21:29 < josh_> well yeah, I'd expect that. 21:29 < BVegan> bash: cd: mkdir: No such file or directory 21:29 < josh_> what exactly made you type 21:30 < josh_> cd mkdir -p /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib /Volumes/BettPod/usr/share/usr/lib 21:30 < josh_> ? 21:30 < josh_> it's just 21:30 < josh_> er, it should just be 21:30 < BVegan> It said to? 21:30 < josh_> cd /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib 21:30 < josh_> ah, might've messed that one up 21:30 < josh_> I'll check 21:30 < josh_> nope, it didn't 21:30 < josh_> all it said was 21:31 < josh_> # ( cd /mnt/ipod/usr/lib; unzip $OLDPWD/pzmodules-NNN.zip ) 21:31 < josh_> like I said, the # at the beginning just indicates the prompt, it isn't part of the command 21:31 < josh_> you're supposed to replace /mnt/ipod with /Volumes/BettPod, and NNN with ??? 21:31 < josh_> which gives you 21:31 < josh_> ( cd /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib; unzip $OLDPWD/pzmodules-???.zip ) 21:32 < BVegan> right. So I replaced /mnt/ipod with /Volumes/BettPod, and NNN with - OH. I thought it was the number I was supposed to put in. Hang on one more sec, I'll try. 21:32 < josh_> ah, the number works too 21:32 < Luben> I have a problem compiling pz2(toolchain 343). can someone help me, please? 21:32 < josh_> ??? is just easier, so you don't have to check back and see what the number is 21:32 < courtc> Luben: os, arch, and svn version? 21:32 < josh_> but you just said you typed "cd mkdir -p /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib /Volumes/BettPod/usr/share/usr/lib" when it said to type "cd /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib" - any reason why? 21:33 < josh_> that looks like you might've typed cd !!/usr/lib or something - did you? 21:33 < BVegan> no, hang on let me untangle this. I'm not used to looking at code. I typed: 21:34 < Luben> os win2k, dont know where to check wich svn version and what is arch? 21:34 < BVegan> Oh, I see. somehow I got it confused. Let me try again. 21:34 < josh_> n/p 21:35 < courtc> :( Luben what error are you getting? 21:35 < josh_> BVegan: want me to tell you exactly what to type? 21:36 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 21:36 < Luben> pz.h includes ../../ttk/scr/ttk.h, wich includes a lot of stuff () and seems to be the wronng path 21:36 < BVegan> Ok, here's the thing. It's telling me to change directories to the ipod, then to unzip the pzmodules zipfile, which is not actually on the ipod yet. so it isnt' finding it. 21:37 < BVegan> I typed ( cd /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib; unzip $OLDPWD/pzmodules-713.zip ) 21:37 < josh_> $OLDPWD should point to the directory you were just in, after you change directories to the iPod 21:37 < BVegan> and it says bash: cd: /Volumes/BettPod/usr/lib: No such file or directory 21:37 < josh_> oh, that's not it 21:37 < BVegan> oh. 21:37 < BVegan> hm 21:37 < josh_> that means you didn't do the mkdir -p or something 21:37 < josh_> ah yeah, I remember 21:37 < josh_> 13:29 < BVegan> mkdir -p /mnt/ipod/usr/lib /Volumes/BettPod/usr/share worked. 21:38 < josh_> you needed to replace that first /mnt/ipod with /Volumes/BettPod too 21:38 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACCAAF50.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:38 < BVegan> Ah! I see it. Ok, hang on. 21:39 < BVegan> ok, did that. 21:39 < josh_> ok, rerun that unzip command 21:39 < BVegan> Ok, it inflated and created things. 21:39 < BVegan> lots of 'em. 21:40 < josh_> cool, that's good 21:40 * BVegan happy 21:40 < josh_> now keep going with the commands 21:40 < BVegan> k 21:41 < BVegan> ooh! lots more. 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> neat, long conversation 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: out of curiosity, what's your ipod's name? 21:41 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: "Joshua Oreman's iPod" 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> Hydrogen? 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> aw 21:41 < josh_> nothing fancy 21:41 < BVegan> Hi, BHSPitMonkey 21:41 < josh_> hydrogen = my router 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 21:41 < BHSPitMonkey> my memory's not so great. 21:42 < BHSPitMonkey> maybe there's some element with some significance to sound 21:42 < BHSPitMonkey> or small stature 21:42 < josh_> lithium? 21:42 < josh_> (it's the lightest metal...) 21:42 * BVegan starting to study chemistry (for a nutrition class) 21:42 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 21:42 < BVegan> BHSPitMonkey, how'd the Great Gatsby go? 21:43 < BHSPitMonkey> fine 21:43 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: expecting your ipod to blow up anytime soon? :P 21:43 < josh_> 2haha 21:43 < josh_> *haha 21:44 < BHSPitMonkey> find an element with the same half-life as the ipod's included battery 21:44 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 21:44 < BVegan> Hey, guys, I 'm gonna replace my battery soon - any recommendations? 21:44 < BHSPitMonkey> in other words, something that just vaporizes itself... 21:44 < BHSPitMonkey> eBay? 21:45 < BVegan> yeah, that's what I figured. Any of them - just the cheapest one? 21:45 < BHSPitMonkey> the ones i've heard of are in the ~$20 area 21:45 < Luben> would someone like to help me please? 21:45 < BHSPitMonkey> (the ones i've heard of working) 21:45 < BVegan> I figure I'll go with the cheapest one with the most power. 21:45 < BHSPitMonkey> Luben: ask first, then look for volunteers 21:46 < BVegan> So Josh, should I disconnect and try this? Am I done? 21:46 < Luben> im quite sure i did ask first =/ 21:46 < BVegan> I'm keeping the commands I typed so I can do it again :-) 21:46 < josh_> BVegan: if you've run all the commands, yes you are done :-) 21:46 < BVegan> U rule . . . now the moment of truth . . . 21:47 < Luben> well im having problems compiling pz2, says ttk/(includes) no such file or directory 21:47 < BVegan> Hm. I have three dots. 21:47 < josh_> wait a few seconds 21:48 < courtc> Luben: you're kidding. 21:48 < Luben> why should i? 21:48 < courtc> make sure ttk is in ../ttk and that it's compiled. 21:49 < BVegan> wow 21:49 < josh_> what? does it work? 21:49 -!- DocterD [n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-091-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:49 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: is the height (quantity) of menu entries able to be changed freely? 21:49 < BVegan> Yes! 21:49 < BVegan> Thank you! 21:49 < BHSPitMonkey> or is it only changable on a code level 21:49 < josh_> BVegan: no problem :-) 21:50 < BVegan> One question - do I have to save the settings on this one? Or does it do that automatically? I'm not finding a "save settings" as in the first pz. 21:50 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: it figures out the most that can fit onscreen and then makes each one screen height / that number pixels high 21:50 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 21:50 < josh_> BVegan: it saves them automatically unless you "Exit Without Saving" 21:50 < BVegan> that's what I thought. 21:50 < BVegan> Now, to explore. 21:50 < BHSPitMonkey> it measures the menu font and gives it a little padding? 21:51 < BVegan> You guys are the best, even the funny ones. 21:51 < josh_> yep, 4 px IIRC. 21:51 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: oh, i compared Familiar+Podium with a nano running retailos today, and the number of entries was the only difference 21:52 < josh_> ah 21:52 < josh_> how many is it? 21:52 < josh_> and wow, that's nice 21:52 -!- holiday41 [n=none@spike.wcta.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:52 < BHSPitMonkey> i was getting ready to photograph both modes, actually. 21:53 < josh_> how many are in retailos? pz has 6... 21:56 < BHSPitMonkey> i just took the pic of pz2, now rebooting... 21:56 < BHSPitMonkey> by the way, have you seen apple's radio/remote? 21:57 < BHSPitMonkey> uh oh! 21:57 < BHSPitMonkey> :( 21:57 < BHSPitMonkey> i forgot my retailos is all "modded"...i can't take an accurate comparison :( 21:57 < BVegan> josh - another question - where is the recorder in this one? 21:57 < josh_> BVegan: one of the things that isn't done yet, sorry :-( 21:57 -!- ThomP [n=Thompuim@s559025d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 < ThomP> Hello 21:58 < ThomP> I have a question 21:58 < BVegan> Oh, noooo, mr josh_! Ack. I may need to go back to pz1 for that - is there a way to have both and load them when I need them? 21:58 < BHSPitMonkey> BVegan: yup 21:59 < BVegan> yay! 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> download a nightly first 21:59 < BVegan> Triple boot with apple os, pz1 and pz2? 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> from ipodlinux.org/build, and extract it 21:59 < ThomP> Look how do i have to install podzilla?? 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 21:59 < BVegan> woo-hoo! 21:59 < josh_> yep, download a pz0 nightly and put it on your ipod in as /bin/podzilla 21:59 < josh_> move podzilla2 to ipod/bin/podzilla2 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> actually... 21:59 < josh_> launch pz2 from the pz0 file browser 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> i have pz0 as podzilla0 21:59 < BHSPitMonkey> and changed my rc 21:59 < josh_> well, that works too, but then you have to modify rc. 22:00 < josh_> either way 22:00 < ThomP> I saw this tut: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=409471 22:00 -!- wundaboy [n=asdf@c-24-21-100-201.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:00 < BHSPitMonkey> that was because pz2 couldn't find itself :P 22:00 -!- akaidiota [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < BVegan> Josh_ I am not sure what you are telling me to do. 22:00 < ThomP> IpodLinux saids everytime that i have no iPod connected 22:01 < BHSPitMonkey> what? 22:01 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: Where'd you get the Podium font? 22:01 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: made it 22:01 < josh_> could you send it to me? 22:01 < BVegan> or were you :-) 22:01 < josh_> oremanj at gmail dot com 22:01 < josh_> BVegan: yep, I was 22:01 < josh_> one sec 22:02 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: I wanted it considered for svn today, but I didn't want to do all the patch formalities over vnc 22:02 < BHSPitMonkey> now i'm home :) 22:02 < josh_> ah 22:02 < courtc> patches@ patches@ 22:02 < ThomP> How do i have to install ipodlinux? 22:03 < josh_> `wiki 22:03 < iplbot> Use the WIKI. http://www.ipodlinux.org/ 22:03 < BVegan> Josh, can I do all that via the oz x finder? Or do I have to do it in terminal? 22:03 < josh_> BVegan: you should be able to do it with the OS X finder 22:03 < josh_> open your iPod, open bin 22:04 < BVegan> right 22:04 < josh_> rename the file called podzilla to podzilla2 22:04 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:04 < BVegan> ok 22:04 < josh_> download a nightly of podzilla from http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds (get the latest) 22:04 < josh_> unzip it 22:04 < josh_> copy it to iPod/bin, rename to podzilla 22:04 < BVegan> with you so far 22:04 < josh_> that's it 22:04 < josh_> your iPod will start in pz0 22:05 < BVegan> then it'll boot in to podzilla 1, 22:05 < josh_> when you want to launch pz2, open the file browser and go to bin -> podzilla2 22:05 < josh_> correct 22:05 < ThomP> Ive saw that already in tutorial 22:05 < BVegan> and then when I quit it'll be back in pz1? 22:05 < ThomP> But i have it now in Disk mode... 22:05 -!- Forceflow1049 [n=chatzill@pool-71-114-135-122.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:05 < josh_> BVegan: yep 22:05 < ThomP> A tutorial did said that 22:05 < BVegan> I'll try it. will you be around awhile in case I f_ it up? 22:05 < josh_> yep :-) 22:05 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 < BVegan> You are the best. Back in a little . . . 22:06 < BVegan> Oh - one more question - there's just the one file for pz1, no appearance or pzmodules files? 22:06 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: also slightly worth noting, that i was using my custom changes to Familiar (changed header values to exact values from retailos resource), and it was SPOT ON :) 22:06 < ThomP> How do i get my ipod out of the disk mode? 22:07 < BHSPitLappy> ThomP: reboot 22:07 < BHSPitLappy> (the iPod...) 22:07 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: explain said custom changes :-) 22:07 < josh_> BVegan: correct 22:07 < josh_> pz1 is much simpler 22:07 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c144008.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:07 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: the means of the acquisition or the values themselves :P 22:07 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c216229.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 22:07 < ThomP> But as i hold the pause button there is nothing happening 22:08 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: both 22:08 < ThomP> Witch buttons? 22:08 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:08 < josh_> `reboot 22:08 < iplbot> reboot is flip hold switch on and then back off, then hold these buttons for at least ten seconds: <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from josh_] 22:08 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: I'm an iPodWizard user, and I have all the bitmaps extracted from the firmware sitting on my laptop here. Photoshop, eyedropper tool, hex values :) 22:09 < BHSPitLappy> also helps that apple's header is a 100% straight A-B gradient 22:09 < josh_> aha :-) nice 22:09 < courtc> I still disagree. 22:09 < ThomP> I have it now thnx 22:09 < josh_> courtc: hrm? 22:09 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: i'm telling you, i held it side by side with my friend's nano in retailos 22:09 < BHSPitLappy> it was a 100% match 22:09 < courtc> your eyes are broken. 22:10 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: there are a few things I know you'd have to change 22:10 < josh_> one - take away the scrollbar edge and make the scroll bg a bitmap 22:10 < josh_> (or grad w/bar) 22:10 < BHSPitLappy> it is already? 22:10 < josh_> the scroll bg 22:10 < courtc> it's a grad 22:10 < BHSPitLappy> oh right 22:10 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 22:10 < josh_> the scrollbar is 1px too wide for the apple fw 22:11 < josh_> and the header bar is 1px too high 22:11 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: in every aspect other than a few proportions, like i said the menu items weren't the same in quantity, etc 22:11 < courtc> You can't change the header bar easily. 22:11 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: hmm? 22:11 < BHSPitLappy> in which os? 22:11 < BleuLlama> PC-GEOS 22:11 < courtc> < josh_> and the header bar is 1px too high 22:12 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A32117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 < josh_> ah, I see what you mean 22:12 < josh_> considering I just tried it 22:12 < josh_> and that definitely needs to be fixed 22:12 * josh_ fixes 22:12 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: i'll imageshack the bitmap itself from the firmware, along with my screenshot again, if you like 22:12 < BHSPitLappy> so that you can eyedropper compare, w/e 22:12 < courtc> I don't care what the eyedropper says if it doesn't look right. 22:13 < BHSPitLappy> it DOES look right. 22:13 < BHSPitLappy> your monitor/eyes are broken. 22:13 < courtc> I disagree. 22:13 < josh_> so do I 22:13 < BHSPitLappy> the current Familiar header is a lighter color and different hue than apple's. 22:13 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:14 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 22:14 < BHSPitLappy> oh, and were you talking before about the one-pixel gap between the header and first menu entry? 22:14 < josh_> yeah 22:15 < BHSPitLappy> yeah, i assumed that would be changed if there wasn't a reason for it being that way...so i sort of looked the other way :P 22:15 < josh_> yep, right you are. 22:15 < josh_> . . . 22:15 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ttk/ (schemes/familiar.cs src/icons.c src/ttk.c): Apple Lookalike Contest :-) - Fix header 1px gap, make > icon less obtrusive. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/715) 22:15 < iPL-SVN> svn up in ttk failed -1 22:15 < BHSPitLappy> i didn't say i had pz2 on a per-pixel match 22:15 < josh_> you must've noticed the pz2 > icons were much bigger... 22:15 < BHSPitLappy> a normal user wouldn't tell the difference if i'd loaded that scheme onto theirs, though. 22:16 < BHSPitLappy> (until they noticed, you know, everything about linux :P) 22:17 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:17 < ThomP> But with the iPod linux installer it saids there is no iPod connected but its connected... 22:17 < Forceflow1049> which ipod? 22:17 < ThomP> nano 22:18 < Forceflow1049> is it formated properly? 22:18 < ThomP> Yes 22:19 < Forceflow1049> hmm 22:19 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 < Forceflow1049> are you using one of the tutorials from the forums? 22:19 < ThomP> Im now using that one from ipodlinux.org 22:19 < ThomP> But FAT 32 right? 22:20 < ThomP> And ive selected fast formatting 22:20 < Forceflow1049> are you using winxp? 22:20 < courtc> ok, the icon flashing is officially screwed up. 22:20 < ThomP> Yeah 22:21 < courtc> I can't explain how either.. :/ 22:22 < Forceflow1049> is the nano mounted in windows? 22:22 < ThomP> How do you mean with mounted?? 22:22 < Forceflow1049> does it show up in my computer? 22:22 < ThomP> Yeah 22:22 < BHSPitLappy> ok, i apologize for the horrible camera quality, i'll put 'digital camera' on my birthday list this year: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3360/pzcomparison0qn.jpg 22:23 < ThomP> And my nano is in disk mode 22:23 < Forceflow1049> does the ipod utilty see it? 22:23 < Forceflow1049> BHSPitLappy: nice 22:23 < ThomP> Ipod linux installer? 22:24 < Forceflow1049> no, the apple ipod updater 22:24 < ThomP> No 22:24 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: sfont? 22:24 < Forceflow1049> BHSPitLappy: i see the 1 px gap... its pretty obvious 22:25 < Forceflow1049> huh 22:25 < BHSPitLappy> Forceflow1049: i'm not responsible for the gap, and it's been fixed a few minutes ago. 22:25 < Forceflow1049> i saw that 22:25 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: yes 22:25 < Forceflow1049> wasn't blaming you 22:25 < BleuLlama> battery colors are off 22:25 < BleuLlama> top gradient is also off 22:25 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: yeah, i've been lookint into that too 22:25 < ThomP> The apple updater saids: Service error 22:25 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: the gradient really isn't, i swear 22:26 < Forceflow1049> thats odd 22:26 < BHSPitLappy> my logitech quickcam deserves some credit for that... 22:26 < josh_> it is off 22:26 < BHSPitLappy> if it's off, then pz2 isn't drawing it correctly :P 22:26 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/237/pic0720wf.png 22:26 < BHSPitLappy> that is THE firmware resource 22:26 < josh_> ah, I think we're looking at different resources. 22:26 < BHSPitLappy> compare that to the hex values i used in the scheme, which BHSPitMonkey is about to be so kind as to tell you... 22:26 < josh_> I'm looking at the Photo's. 22:27 < BHSPitLappy> i'm looking at nano 22:27 < josh_> it's actually a tri-grad, with top/middle the same. 22:27 < BHSPitMonkey> and i assumed they would be the same 22:27 < Forceflow1049> have you disconnected it and retryed? 22:27 < josh_> nano is too, it's just so slight youcan't see it. 22:27 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: uhhhh 22:27 < ThomP> Yes 22:28 < BHSPitLappy> looking that that last pasted link, you see a tri? 22:28 < BHSPitLappy> with the top and bottom the same? 22:28 < BleuLlama> top and middle 22:28 < Forceflow1049> at the moment all I can think of is to reformat and try again... but let me check one thing 22:28 < josh_> eh, maybe not. 22:28 < josh_> idk 22:28 < ThomP> Ok 22:28 < BHSPitLappy> i used photoshop's gradient tool with my two colors, too 22:28 < BHSPitLappy> the picture didn't change. 22:28 * BleuLlama likes making schemes that don't have a comparable equivalent, so they're never "wrong" 22:29 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: well, if the photo is different from nano/5G, wouldn't the later models take preference here? 22:29 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: looks like the e and o have too much padding 22:29 < BleuLlama> no one ever told me that the amiga colors are slightly too bright, which they are. 22:29 < BleuLlama> ;) 22:29 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: the fonts have been adjusted again and again after screenshots 22:29 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: but this time the comparison is on identical hardware :) 22:29 < BHSPitLappy> so it's a fight to the death! 22:30 < BleuLlama> the kerning around 'Set' and the letter 'o' is way off 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> like i just said to courtc... 22:30 < courtc> additionally, you should be able to chop a bit off the bottom of the sfont png 22:30 < josh_> what's with the "Test (don't use)" scheme? 22:30 < courtc> and adjust the size 22:30 < courtc> ? 22:31 < Forceflow1049> ThomP: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5281 22:31 < Forceflow1049> try that tutorial 22:31 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: hmm? 22:31 < ThomP> Ok thanx! 22:31 < BHSPitMonkey> i really used aiken as a model for the format of the sfont 22:31 < Forceflow1049> i don't have a nano, so its tough for me to provide specific advice 22:31 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: that'll make the padding on the bottom better. 22:31 < ThomP> Ok i`ll try it... 22:32 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: is it bad now? 22:32 < BHSPitMonkey> and i was aware the SFont ignored empty rows/columns of pixels 22:32 < josh_> rows, no. 22:32 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 22:32 < courtc> on that image it looks like there's a bit of extra on the bottom 22:32 < josh_> columns, only if they have the magenta pixel at the top. 22:32 < ThomP> Im going thanx for helping! 22:32 < josh_> the image should be exactly the pixel size of your font, plus one pixel 22:32 -!- ThomP [n=Thompuim@s559025d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 22:33 < BHSPitLappy> so i should crop out ALL transparent rows/columns? 22:33 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:33 < josh_> no, crop out rows from the bottom to reduce the image to font size + 1 22:33 < josh_> px high 22:33 < josh_> and make sure there's a magenta pixel at the top of all transparent colums except one on each side of each caracter. 22:34 < josh_> *char... 22:34 < courtc> That's where your kerning comes in is transparent cols. 22:34 < BHSPitMonkey> there's only one extra row on the bottom actually 22:34 < BHSPitMonkey> and none on top 22:35 < BHSPitMonkey> the first row is the magenta delimiters, and the next is pure character 22:35 < courtc> There should be none on the bottom, and adjust the font size to correlate 22:35 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: i based the size value off the characters, it's still 12 22:35 < josh_> what size value? 22:35 < BHSPitMonkey> and i've spent a lot of time adjusting the kerning :P 22:36 < courtc> the image should be 13 rows then. 22:36 < BHSPitMonkey> read last night/this morning's log, i had a little control group going 22:36 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: in the fonts.lst 22:36 < courtc> josh_: in the font.lst 22:36 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: ok 22:36 < josh_> the size value in fonts.lst does nothing except say which font will get selected when you ask for a 12 pt font 22:36 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah, i know 22:36 < josh_> (or whatever) 22:36 < BleuLlama> josh_: in the font.lst 22:36 < josh_> you could change it to 100 and it wouldn't affect anything 22:36 < josh_> the only size that matters is the height of your png 22:36 < courtc> still, it should be right ;) 22:36 < aegray> any of you know how to set the range that a window can start out in? (ie make a window start when i open it in the first 640x480? 22:37 < aegray> i ask in ##linux but noone likes me 22:37 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 < josh_> aegray: foo -geometry 640x480+0+0 22:37 < BHSPitMonkey> also, i have a little question of opinion about kerning 22:37 < courtc> Xlib? 22:37 < aegray> yea but then does it limit it for good? 22:37 < aegray> erm 22:37 < aegray> nm 22:37 < aegray> any way to make it an x default? 22:37 < josh_> no, it just starts it like that. 22:37 < aegray> like when I click an icon 22:38 < BHSPitMonkey> i've been giving each character one column free on the right side... but if it's right-most column is just anti-aliasing, should I consider that the padding? 22:38 < josh_> hrm, idk. 22:38 < aegray> k 22:38 < BHSPitMonkey> in other words, allow anti-aliasing to touch the next char 22:38 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: try it both ways and see 22:39 < BHSPitMonkey> i think that was some of you guys' problem with the lowercase "o" 22:39 < josh_> make all install -C ../ttk 22:39 < josh_> er 22:39 < josh_> wrong window 22:41 < courtc> woh 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> and, my header gradient is #BDC6CD to #D5DEE6 to #F6F6FF 22:41 < josh_> first of all, those values are gonna get truncated 22:41 < josh_> the iPod is a 16-bit display 22:41 < courtc> familiar has major problems now... 22:41 < josh_> you've got 5 bits each of R and B and 6 bits of G 22:41 < josh_> how so? 22:41 < courtc> It's reacting *very* strangely 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> none of my changes are in it, so you're wasting your breath courtc :P 22:42 < josh_> so your R/B values need to end in 0 or 8 and G in 0, 4, 8, or C 22:42 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: stfu 22:42 < josh_> courtc: define strangelyt 22:42 < josh_> *strangely 22:42 < courtc> the menu disappears every once and a while.. the scrollbar is taking up the whole bar space 22:43 < courtc> it's *very* slow 22:43 < josh_> what size pz? 22:43 < courtc> ? 22:43 < josh_> ./podzilla -_____ 22:43 < josh_> nano, photo, video, ... 22:43 < courtc> photo 22:44 < courtc> hm.. restarted podzilla and it's alright.. 22:44 < josh_> yeah, fwiw I'm not getting any of that 22:45 -!- wundaboy [n=pat@71.39.0.173] has joined #ipodlinux 22:46 < courtc> segmentation fault! woo 22:46 < josh_> bt? 22:46 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A32117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:46 < wundaboy> i need some help with my ipod, whenever i plug it in nothing happens, and if i boot into the linux on it and plug it in, it asks if i want to go to disk mode and i say yes. It then reboots goes to do not disconnect and then about a half second later it says its OK to disconnect. 22:46 < wundaboy> help? 22:46 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: is it bad to just let the ipod truncate those? 22:46 < courtc> josh_: working on it, lemme see if I can get it to reoccur 22:47 < BHSPitLappy> it seemed to have no reprocussions.. 22:47 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: nope, it just means WYSINWYG 22:47 < josh_> (N = not) 22:47 < BHSPitLappy> yeah... 22:47 < BHSPitLappy> (gathered that.) 22:47 < courtc> ok, it's slow again 22:47 < BHSPitLappy> i've changed the "o", if anyone cares. 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> should look better. 22:48 < josh_> whoa, that's weird 22:48 < josh_> CS files with underscores in their \defs create lines like 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> wuh? 22:48 < josh_> in value:17: warning: unrecognized character 22:48 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A32117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 < josh_> there is no line like that anywhere in podzilla 22:48 < josh_> nor in the flex-generated code 22:49 < josh_> nor in `strings podzilla` 22:49 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 22:49 < wundaboy> how do i get my ipod to connect to my computer? 22:49 < courtc> ahh.. ok, the flashing header line bug is still there 22:49 < courtc> it must be based on that. 22:49 < josh_> courtc: still there, or does it only flash when you switch windows? 22:49 < josh_> and did you recompile ttk? reinstall it if you ever installed it? 22:49 < courtc> still there 22:50 < courtc> yep 22:50 -!- Noxel [n=nyxero@CPE0014bf4ae27c-CM001225dbb2fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:51 < josh_> are you sure? I'm quite sure I'm not getting it anymore... it was a really simple fix, just redraw the header line when drawing windows. 22:51 < courtc> yep, sure. 22:51 < courtc> I didn't get it for a while 22:51 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: vertically or horizontally? 22:51 < BHSPitMonkey> ack 22:51 < BHSPitMonkey> i wasn't scrolled all the way down on this comp, never mind :P 22:52 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-240-175.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:52 < josh_> courtc: do you get it consistently now? 22:52 < courtc> yep 22:52 < josh_> what font are you using? 22:52 < BHSPitMonkey> wow, all of a sudden my bar flashes too 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> well that's sure annoying... 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> it's never done that for me before... 22:53 < courtc> switching between Chixa and a few others 22:53 < josh_> Chixa doesn't do it for me 22:54 < josh_> does it only happen when you switch fonts? 22:54 < courtc> alright, now I don't get it anymore :| 22:54 < courtc> color schemes I think. 22:54 < josh_> aha 22:54 < courtc> now half of my window is flashing. 22:54 < josh_> switch to SonyS2 and then back 22:55 < josh_> to familiar 22:55 < josh_> that does it for me 22:55 < josh_> flashing window 22:55 < josh_> invisible scrollbar 22:55 < courtc> yep 22:55 < josh_> invisible scrollbar 22:55 < josh_> ^ ignore 22:55 < josh_> hrm, probably has something to do with those 22:55 < josh_> in value:37: warning: unrecognized character 22:55 < josh_> lines 22:55 < BHSPitLappy> mine started flashing as soon as i started pz on my desktop... 22:55 < courtc> I think my scrollbar went down 160 px 22:56 < Forceflow1049> when running a c++ program, why is the press of enter often recorded as happening twice? 22:56 < courtc> button debounce? 22:56 < josh_> aha! 22:56 < josh_> the unrecognized character is \r! 22:56 < BHSPitLappy> that's always good. 22:57 < josh_> that's why the error messages were so weird. 22:57 < Forceflow1049> i don't know... i'm writing a c++ program and it skips past getchar() alot 22:57 < Forceflow1049> like enter was pressed twice 22:58 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A32117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:59 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/ttk/ (schemes/familiar.cs src/appearance.l): Fix \r ap bug. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/716) 22:59 < iPL-SVN> svn up in ttk failed -1 22:59 < Forceflow1049> if that is button debounce, can that be adjusted in standard c++ (not nano-x) 23:04 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 < BHSPitMonkey> i loved physics today 23:04 < josh_> why? 23:05 < BHSPitMonkey> that's an easy class to get fascinated by something in 23:05 < imphasing> "Gravity is amazing" 23:05 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:06 < josh_> `tell iPL-SVN say restart 23:06 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:06 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- Kensir [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 < BHSPitMonkey> he showed us an electroscope, and also we took notes about this box that makes a drop of oil suspend in mid-air 23:06 -!- Kensir [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:07 < imphasing> I made a pretty cool electroscope with a FET and a 9v battery 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> FET? 23:07 < imphasing> it could detect static forming in the clouds 23:07 < imphasing> it's a transistor 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> and the electroscope we learned about had no electronic components... 23:07 < imphasing> I could get maybe 2-3 seconds of warning before lightning hit somewhere 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> unless i remember the name wrong 23:07 < imphasing> if I was close enough 23:07 < imphasing> the normal electroscope is just two leaves of foil hanging from a wire 23:07 < imphasing> so you're right. 23:08 < imphasing> but there's also electronic electroscopes. 23:08 < Forceflow1049> science is alot of fun 23:08 < imphasing> an electroscope just measures a charge, and there's several ways to do it. 23:08 < imphasing> two foil leaves is the easiest though. 23:09 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-188.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-188.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:11 -!- Elsan_ [n=geno@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3571689.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 -!- Luben [n=kvirc@h152n1fls308o1032.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:14 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-69-68-162-176.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:15 < BHSPitLappy> imphasing: yeah, that's what he had 23:15 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:15 -!- joecool_ is now known as joecool 23:15 < BHSPitLappy> he rubbed a balloon on himself and made the leaves repel 23:15 < BVegan> Hey guys, 23:15 < BVegan> Josh_, are you still here? 23:16 < BHSPitLappy> then touched the rod, so the force became fixed :) 23:16 < BleuLlama> i once rubbed a baloon and touched a rod 23:16 < josh_> yep 23:16 < BHSPitLappy> he had the balloon stuck to the whiteboard 23:17 < imphasing> BleuLlama: Ew... 23:17 < josh_> BVegan: ^ 23:17 < BHSPitLappy> contained thousands of volts, we learned 23:17 < josh_> (the "yep" was to you) 23:17 < imphasing> My boat got hit by lightning once. 23:17 < imphasing> :D 23:17 < BVegan> I did what you said, renamed /bin/podzilla to /bin/bodzilla2, put the uncompressed nightly of podzill in as just podzilla, 23:18 < BVegan> it booted into pz0, but when I went to file browser, then bin, then podzilla 2 I got the dots and then Error unable to connect to MPD 23:18 < BVegan> there's an ok box 23:18 < josh_> hit ok 23:19 < josh_> you won't be able to play music, but everything else should work 23:19 < BVegan> ok. did that. 23:19 < BVegan> ah. 23:19 < BHSPitMonkey> BVegan: yeah, i get that message too :P 23:19 < josh_> mpd uses a ton of memory, and having two podzillae running at once *and* mpd is probably too much 23:19 < BHSPitMonkey> that would explain THAT... 23:19 < imphasing> josh_: Does anyone have a modularized version of MPD (the binary, not the client) available? 23:19 < imphasing> s/binary/deamon/ 23:20 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/mpd <-- don't know if it works, but there iti s 23:20 < BHSPitMonkey> isn't it on Special:Module? 23:20 < BHSPitMonkey> hmph. 23:20 < BVegan> but now I do appear to be in pz2 23:20 < BHSPitMonkey> BVegan: explore Settings fully now. 23:20 < BHSPitMonkey> especially "menu transition" :P 23:21 < BVegan> cool, thanks guys - I'll be back (mwa-ha-ha) if I have more troubles with it. 23:21 < BVegan> Ok, here's one now. 23:21 < BVegan> Calculator won't let me access all the keys? 23:22 < BHSPitMonkey> liar? 23:22 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 23:25 < josh_> BVegan: scroll slowly 23:25 < BVegan> ah, I"ll try 23:26 < BVegan> before I do that . . . how to save in podwrite? It wont' let me 23:26 < josh_> turn hold on and off again 23:26 < BVegan> the cursor is before /Notes/ I don't know how to move it 23:26 < josh_> what text input method are you using? 23:27 < BVegan> little keyboard looking thingy 23:27 < BVegan> forgot its name 23:27 < josh_> on-screen keyboard? 23:27 < BVegan> yes 23:27 < josh_> you use the arrow keys on the keyboard 23:27 < BVegan> ah hang on i'll try 23:28 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 23:28 < BVegan> hey, it did it! 23:28 < BVegan> Now, for the calculator . . . 23:30 < BVegan> still not letting me select anything except 7 / 6 2 0 + 23:30 < BHSPitLappy> ... 23:30 < josh_> scroll *slowly*. 23:31 < BVegan> barely moving finger on wheel, still the same. 23:32 < josh_> ok, idk then. 23:32 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:32 < BHSPitLappy> wfm 23:32 < BVegan> idk? 23:32 < BHSPitLappy> wip? 23:32 < imphasing> vtfk. 23:32 < josh_> idk = I don't know. 23:32 < josh_> wfm = ? 23:32 < josh_> wip = work in progress 23:32 < josh_> vtfk = ? 23:32 < BHSPitLappy> works for me = wfm 23:33 < josh_> imphasing: vtfk = ? 23:33 < BVegan> ah. I can use pz0 if I need calc. 23:33 < imphasing> vtfk == Random String Of Letters 23:33 < BHSPitLappy> oh 23:33 < BHSPitLappy> i thought it was something the !#$ing something 23:33 < imphasing> Hah. 23:33 < BHSPitLappy> like rtfw 23:33 < imphasing> rtfm. 23:34 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:34 < BVegan> I wonder why it wfy, BHSPitLappy? 23:34 < BHSPitLappy> because I rtfm? 23:34 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 23:34 < BHSPitLappy> :P 23:34 < BVegan> There's a f m? 23:34 < BHSPitLappy> nah 23:35 < BVegan> :-D 23:35 < BHSPitLappy> wheel sensitivity setting, maybe. 23:35 < BVegan> You guys are sorta the f m %-) 23:35 < BVegan> that could be it. 23:35 < BVegan> I'll make it REAL slow 23:35 < BVegan> oh, what's thumbscript? 23:35 < josh_> www.thumbscript.com 23:36 < BHSPitMonkey> ever used a palm pilot? 23:36 < BVegan> k 23:36 < BHSPitMonkey> kind of like graffiti. 23:36 < BVegan> yes, but with graffiti 23:36 < BVegan> ok, I'll look it up thanks 23:36 < josh_> you tap two spots on the wheel to make chars 23:36 < josh_> wait... what gen iPod do you have? 23:36 < BHSPitMonkey> i thought thumbscript was gestures? 23:36 < josh_> nope 23:37 < BVegan> 3G 23:37 < josh_> ah 23:37 < josh_> ts won't work for you then 23:37 < josh_> it requires a 4g or above 23:37 < BVegan> bummer. 23:37 -!- erus` is now known as erus|afk 23:38 < BVegan> it was wheel sensitivity - calculator works now. Thanks. 23:38 < BVegan> Even scrolling fast. 23:41 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: why DOES the header bar flash :( 23:42 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: you need to up your ttk and recompile it and pz 23:42 -!- w33dtag [n=w33dtag@adsl-68-94-38-131.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 < w33dtag> Ipod Nano 23:43 < w33dtag> WINDOWS xp home edition 23:44 < Forceflow1049> w33dtag: whats the problem? 23:44 < w33dtag> I followed each step in the arab freaks tutorial, all went great, Except on the last step where I drag the start and podzilla into my the ipod (/:g) 23:45 < Forceflow1049> what was wrong? 23:45 < w33dtag> instead of saying ipod g it says removable disk g, neverthe less i tryed to paste it in but it said this hardrive is not formated 23:45 < w33dtag> and wont allow me to drop it in, so linux wont work 23:45 < Forceflow1049> huh... 23:46 < w33dtag> It's just windows isn't recognizing it I believe, any suggestions? 23:46 < Forceflow1049> you installed the kernal? 23:46 < w33dtag> I followed every single direction given by arab freak in his tutorial, IPL recommended that one on the wiki 23:46 < w33dtag> It all went smooth, I just couldnt drop in the 2 files. 23:47 < Forceflow1049> thats odd 23:48 < w33dtag> Indeed. 23:48 < w33dtag> Don't make a mistake, I can read clearly and not a moron. 23:48 < Forceflow1049> i'm not 23:48 < w33dtag> It just wont simply let me drop it in, even after I restart and go into disk mode 23:49 < Forceflow1049> i don't know... if I had a nano i could help you more 23:49 < Forceflow1049> i would just retry the installation from the start 23:49 < BHSPitMonkey> ah, josh_ : 6 entries are fitting now :) 23:49 < BHSPitMonkey> (on nano menu) 23:50 < josh_> good :-) 23:50 < w33dtag> Forceflow, I have tryed it 6 times and have wasted over 2 and a half hours. 23:50 < w33dtag> Thanks for attempting to help me even though its unsupported. 23:50 < w33dtag> Have a nice life :D 23:51 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh 23:51 < BHSPitMonkey> "I can read clearly and not a moron. " 23:52 < BHSPitMonkey> how did you install from xp exactly? 23:54 < Forceflow1049> he says he followed arab freak's tutorial 23:54 < BVegan> Guys, thank you for releasing me from the thrall of APPLE 23:54 < w33dtag> I never succesfully installed, I followed the directions perfectly. I was at the LAST step and just needed to drop the start and podzilla, into the ipod root. But windows wasnt recognizing the ipod. 23:54 < BVegan> This is great. 23:54 < BVegan> LOVE THE FONTS 23:54 < w33dtag> I have seen similiar post with this problems. 23:54 < w33dtag> problem* 23:55 < BHSPitMonkey> w33dtag: there's no supported way to install onto a nano except manually, from linux (maybe mac?) 23:55 < BHSPitMonkey> all unofficial windows installers are *completely* unsupported, nobody in here wrote those programs. 23:55 < BHSPitMonkey> You have a nice life, too. 23:56 < w33dtag> I know it isnt supported, but I have seen tons of people doing so and the arab freak, even made a modified installer. 23:56 < BVegan> I have one more question . . . (for now, mwa-ha-ha) 23:56 < w33dtag> BHS, dont be a smart ass I wasnt even talking to you. 23:56 < w33dtag> The wiki RECOMMENDED his guide! 23:56 < BHSPitMonkey> w33dtag: arab isn't bere. 23:56 < BHSPitMonkey> where? 23:56 < BVegan> Can I get out of pz2 back into pz0 without rebooting? 23:56 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: does that sound right? 23:56 < w33dtag> Someone from ipl said he did it with arab freaks installer 23:56 < josh_> BVegan: sure. Power -> Quit podzilla 23:56 < w33dtag> so i guessed someone was willing to help 23:56 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: nope. 23:56 < BVegan> ok I'll try that. 23:56 < josh_> w33dtag: where on the wiki? 23:56 < BHSPitMonkey> w33dtag: that's the flaw with wiki's, anybody can edit them. 23:57 < BVegan> Now this is f-ing great. 23:57 < w33dtag> Thanks for attempting to help me. 23:58 < Forceflow1049> http://ipodlinux.org/Nano_Installer 23:58 < BHSPitMonkey> w33dtag: sarcasm? 23:58 < w33dtag> No not sarcasm, I was being nice when you have been a smart ass constantly. 23:58 < w33dtag> Was your child hood flawed with mean people. 23:58 < w33dtag> Some people are nice! 23:58 < josh_> w33dtag: he hasn't been a "smart ass". calm down. 23:58 < w33dtag> Yes he was. 23:58 < w33dtag> Forceflow just gave you the link. 23:59 < BHSPitMonkey> I'm sorry for trying to set you straight on some matters you were confused about... 23:59 < w33dtag> Set me straight? 23:59 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 23:59 < w33dtag> You said I was being sarcastic, and that arab freak isnt here and it isnt supported. 23:59 < w33dtag> etc. 23:59 < w33dtag> thank you 23:59 < w33dtag> for 23:59 < BVegan> prob'ly shouldn't get involved, but w33dtag, BHSPitMonkey has been very helpful to me. I can't imagine he was otherwise to you. 23:59 < w33dtag> everything 23:59 < BHSPitMonkey> You'd been misled by a bad wiki page, nobody blamed you. 23:59 < w33dtag> Well then that was simple. 23:59 < w33dtag> I was being nice by saying thank you. 23:59 < w33dtag> Then you have to go and say sarcasm... --- Log closed Fri Jan 20 00:00:00 2006