--- Log opened Tue Jan 17 00:00:01 2006 00:00 < veteran> jonrelay, try now 00:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:01 < jonrelay> It works. 00:01 < jonrelay> Woohoo! 00:01 * BHSPitLappy wonders what a kana palette is 00:01 < BHSPitLappy> something japanese? 00:01 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:01 < jonrelay> Yep. 00:01 < jonrelay> A palette of Japanese characters. 00:02 < spazzium_> hahaha 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> domi-arigato.. 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> :/ 00:02 < spazzium_> Mr. Roboto. 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: is there a target audience? 00:02 < spazzium_> the mutlitude of japanese ipl users? 00:02 < jonrelay> People who want to type Japanese characters? 00:02 -!- h2oboarder619 [i=h2oboard@user-12l2hj0.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> think you can market this bad boy? 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> lol 00:03 < BHSPitLappy> how many hits does ipodlinux.org get from japanese IP's? 00:03 < BHSPitLappy> or the downloads/cvs/svn 00:03 -!- tick [n=asdfasdk@giga.roamr.utk.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 00:03 < veteran> ehm, does it matter? japanese people still exist 00:03 < BHSPitLappy> they do? 00:04 < jonrelay> I thought that was just a myth? 00:04 < BHSPitLappy> i thought we took care of that in the last world war 00:04 < jonrelay> You mean I actually made something USEFUL? 00:04 < tick> does anyone know why the nightly builds doesn't work 00:04 < spazzium_> hahaha 00:04 < BHSPitLappy> tick: because you don't know what you're doing? 00:04 * BHSPitLappy hasn't tried them. 00:05 < BHSPitLappy> my god 00:05 < BHSPitLappy> www.google.com 00:05 < spazzium_> MLK? 00:05 < BHSPitLappy> mlk wore children's heads on his shoulders! 00:05 < BHSPitLappy> how awful@ 00:05 < spazzium_> hahahaha 00:06 < itrebal> hahaha 00:06 < BHSPitLappy> these warlords and their fashion statements... 00:06 < spazzium_> people's parents are throwing feces on them from the windows?! 00:06 < spazzium_> that's awful! 00:06 < BHSPitLappy> ... 00:06 < spazzium_> 2 cents for anyone who gets that 00:06 < itrebal> ... 00:06 * itrebal gets it 00:06 < BHSPitLappy> Reese's Feces 00:07 < BHSPitLappy> or was it Feces Pieces 00:08 < tick> so is there another place the nightly builds are put 00:08 < spazzium_> nope 00:09 < spazzium_> why do you believe them to be non-functional? 00:09 * BHSPitLappy has a feeling tick is the non-functional one... 00:09 < spazzium_> PEBKAC? 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> but, /me is too lazy to confirm.. 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> pilot error between keyboard and computer? 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> is that what that means 00:10 < tick> when u click on them to download them u ger an error 00:10 < spazzium_> problem exists between keyboard and chair 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> ah 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> duhr 00:10 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> it's not a bad wire lol 00:10 < veteran> tick, are you using /nightys or /builds 00:10 < veteran> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ use that. 00:11 < tick> http://ipodlinux.org/nightlys/ 00:11 < BHSPitLappy> that's your problem... 00:11 < veteran> well technically it's a problem with my rewrite rule hm 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> what's that page even there? 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> s/what's/why's 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> or, + for 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> take your pic 00:12 < tick> BHSPitLappy I'm glad u have never had to ask help in you life and know all things 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> +k 00:12 < spazzium_> christ. 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> :( 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> tick: type `nightlys 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> in here. 00:13 < veteran> BHSPitLappy, please no more than one linebreak per 5 seconds 00:13 < BHSPitLappy> hey, spazzium gets to do it... :( 00:13 < veteran> much better. thanks 00:14 < BHSPitLappy> and sorry if i've been bitter to the help-seekers in here today, i guess being around bleu is starting to rub off on me... 00:16 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:21 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:24 -!- lane [n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:24 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:27 -!- lane [n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|food 00:38 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: you're turning blue? 00:38 < BHSPitLappy> turning bleu. 00:39 < BHSPitLappy> (much worse than blue) 00:43 * spazzium_ pets bootloader2 00:44 < spazzium_> it puts the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again 00:44 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:45 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:55 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:55 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 00:58 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 -!- tick [n=asdfasdk@giga.roamr.utk.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:03 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:04 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-195-43.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:04 -!- itrebal [n=itrebal@unaffiliated/itrebal] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:07 < josh_> veteran: ping 01:07 < josh_> I can't edit the wiki - when I try I get 01:07 < josh_> Warning: Unknown(): open(/tmp/sess_c5bd67eac1fe24d56c1ce33295cb9030, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) in Unknown on line 0 01:07 < josh_> Warning: Unknown(): Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/tmp) in Unknown on line 0 01:15 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:16 -!- BIOnet-studi [n=BIOnet-s@68-114-24-184.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:17 < BIOnet-studi> !windows, nano, CANT restore ipod error=Can't mount ipod 01:18 < BIOnet-studi> please pm me if you know how to fix this or can help me :( 01:21 < veteran> josh_, log out and back in 01:21 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/ttk/src/appearance.l: color scheme warnings were 1 line off (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/704) 01:22 -!- mykuhl [n=chatzill@cpe-67-10-197-130.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 -!- mykuhl [n=chatzill@cpe-67-10-197-130.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:24 -!- joecool|food is now known as joecool 01:25 -!- Synapse [i=bagheera@beigetower/ElPresidente] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:31 -!- eruS is now known as ErUs|afk 01:34 < josh_> veteran: cool, thanks 01:35 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 < veteran> josh_, yeah sorry been doing some reorganizing on that machine 01:35 < josh_> n/p 01:36 < lane> what do you guys use for ripping dvds into a format playable on ipodlinux? mencoder? 01:38 < davidc__> my god the forums are insane 01:38 < spazzium_> yes 01:38 < spazzium_> I've not ventured there for many moons now 01:38 < davidc__> BIOnet-studi: follow the NANO REPAIR GUIDE on the forum 01:38 < davidc__> it tells you exactly what to do 01:38 < davidc__> I tried to stay on top of them for just today 01:38 < davidc__> theres like 200 fucking posts! 01:38 < davidc__> its crazy! 01:38 < spazzium_> heh 01:39 < lane> spazzium_: was your yes to me or to davidc? 01:39 < spazzium_> davidc 01:40 < davidc__> and most of the posts are totally useless 01:40 < spazzium_> I especially like the ipl nano windows installers 01:40 < spazzium_> that are so "easy" 01:41 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 01:43 < davidc__> half of the mosts are about this MoPID thing which we don't even make! 01:43 < davidc__> its fucking third party.. they should bugger off and go somewhere else for support 01:43 < spazzium_> hehe 01:43 * spazzium_ pokes slowcoder 01:44 < spazzium_> *poke* 01:44 < BleuLlama> i only look at posts that someone in irc mentiones 01:44 < BleuLlama> *mentions 01:46 < hyarion> davidc__: I'm sorry for the doom stuff on the forum, not mutch we can do about that though :/ 01:46 < spazzium_> the doom modding that has spawned is just ridiculous 01:46 < spazzium_> there was a digg that read "play halflife on your nano" 01:46 < spazzium_> linking to the halflife pwad... 01:50 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:51 < hyarion> it mould be nice if there was three forums, one for development, one for support and one for other unsupported stuff 01:52 < hyarion> or just one for development :) 01:53 < BIOnet-studi> make ipod windows 01:53 < BIOnet-studi> :p 01:53 < wizisi2k> no even better 01:53 < wizisi2k> make ipod vindows that works on the 5g ipod 01:54 < wizisi2k> AND suppourt all the comperssion codecs out there 01:56 < hyarion> ooooh, someone should make that ipodxp :P 01:56 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:56 < hyarion> http://ipodlinux.org/ipodxp.html 01:56 < hyarion> :P 01:56 < spazzium_> no. 01:56 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:56 < hyarion> "* linux operating systems have been proven to cause cancer" 01:56 < BIOnet-studi> ipod98 would be better than ipod linux 01:58 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:58 < jonrelay> I still think we should port Microsoft Bob. 01:58 < jonrelay> http://kreativekorp.dyndns.org:8080/iota/ibob.jpg 01:58 < jonrelay> :D 01:58 < hyarion> hehe 01:59 -!- h2oboarder619 [i=h2oboard@user-12l2hj0.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 -!- h2oboarder619 [i=h2oboard@user-12l2hj0.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:04 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:06 -!- bartel [n=bartel@shell.osuosl.org] has quit [Client Quit] 02:07 -!- joeyk [n=joeyk@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:17 -!- alange [n=medium_w@ip70-179-114-236.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 < lane> hyarion: that is hilarious 02:24 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:25 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/podzilla2/modules/mpdc/mpdc.c: don't warn if mpd isn't connected (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/705) 02:26 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 < BHSPitMonkey> good update... 02:31 < courtc> ? 02:31 -!- h2oboarder619 [i=h2oboard@user-12l2hj0.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:32 < jonrelay> Gotta love machine translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://pc7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mac/1128964050/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpodzilla2%2Bnightly%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26sa%3DG 02:32 < courtc> doesn't warn on an idle timeout if you have mpdc but mpd isn't started 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> hahaha 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> "The iPodLinux is the Linux for the iPod which was made the uClinux in the base." 02:35 < BHSPitMonkey> I thought all the base are belong to uClinux? 02:35 < jonrelay> haha 02:39 < h2oboarder619> 4g photo windows, any know how to get iboy working 02:41 < BleuLlama> i just made a blues color scheme that makes a color ipod look like a 4g monochrome ipod 02:41 < BleuLlama> i am smrt 02:41 < BleuLlama> blue shades. 02:41 < courtc> uh, cool, I guess. 02:41 < jonrelay> I am so smart. I am so smart. S-M-R-T. I mean, S-M-A-R-T. 02:41 < h2oboarder619> nice 02:41 < h2oboarder619> iboy 02:42 < h2oboarder619> any help? 02:42 < courtc> read the wiki/forums 02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: svn? 02:42 < BleuLlama> not sure it's worth it 02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> pastebin? 02:43 < BleuLlama> http://pastebin.com/509236 02:49 < BHSPitMonkey> oooohhhh, cool! 02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> so i can use chicago or something and trick people into thinking it's a b/w nano! 02:50 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/podzilla2/modules/mpdc/mpdc.c: fixed it betterer (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/706) 02:52 < BleuLlama> awesomer. 02:52 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: sure. knock yourself out 02:52 < BHSPitMonkey> suh-weet! 02:52 < BHSPitMonkey> thanks! 02:53 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:53 < BHSPitMonkey> weird 02:53 < BHSPitMonkey> Error: connection closed 02:53 < BHSPitMonkey> Broken pipe 02:53 < birdfish> Hi everyone. I just got a nano this evening. I have a windows computer rather than a mac. 02:53 < birdfish> Am I able to put ipod linux on it yet? 02:54 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: did you get 706? 02:54 < courtc> 705 did that 02:54 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: not yet, and i realize that was probably the difference 02:54 < BHSPitMonkey> i was just weirded out. 02:58 < lane> Well all, I'm signing off. I just wanted to say thanks again for all the help. My 4th gen color w lcd will be playing episodes 3 and 4 of the west wing on my bus ride tomorrow! Have a good night. 02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> lane: always like winning an emmy when you leave, isn't it 02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 02:58 * courtc appriciates it. 02:59 -!- BIOnet-studi [n=BIOnet-s@68-114-24-184.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:59 * lane holds back a tear, then thanks parents, Linus, and all those who couldn't make it here tonight from the frozen tundra 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> shout-outs to LT! 03:00 < lane> I just figure you guys get pestered with so many stupid questions you deserve some thanks 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> yes..they do... 03:01 < BHSPitMonkey> though i'm sure a paypal account touches their hearts in a more profound manner :D 03:01 < lane> true... 03:01 -!- lane [n=lschwar@c-24-118-139-118.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:02 -!- JimIdogen [n=axaaaaa@ool-18bb895b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:03 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/ttk/schemes/familiar.cs: slider nicifying (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/707) 03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> oo, must see 03:04 < spazzium_> DAMNIT 03:05 * spazzium_ wants pz2 03:05 < BHSPitMonkey> it's kick-ass. 03:05 < spazzium_> I'll finish it when I get home 03:05 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium_: check out my avatar in the forum 03:05 < spazzium_> can't add toolchain cleanly to this livecd 03:05 < BHSPitMonkey> which livecd? 03:05 < birdfish> Does anyone know whether it's possible yet to get ipodlinux on a windows formatted nano yet? Or is it just mac formatted nanos so far? 03:05 < wizisi2k> I dunno 03:05 < BHSPitMonkey> do they make mac formatted nanos? 03:05 < spazzium_> birdfish: it has been possible for a very long time 03:06 < wizisi2k> heck they make BOTH formats 03:06 < BHSPitMonkey> possible since like october 03:06 < JimIdogen> it's just one format 03:06 < BHSPitMonkey> i thought for some reason they went all FAT 03:06 < wizisi2k> oh 03:06 < JimIdogen> the ipod does't come formatted either way 03:06 < spazzium_> BHSPitLappy: has your avatar changed from like... a few days ago? 03:06 -!- JimIdogen [n=axaaaaa@ool-18bb895b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["ERROR!"] 03:06 < birdfish> Could someone post a link please? I've found instructions. But they are only for doing it with a mac computer. 03:06 < wizisi2k> fir the 5h ipod it's a entirley different story... 03:06 < BHSPitMonkey> spazzium_: nope, just we were talking about the prettiness of pz2 03:06 < BleuLlama> we have both formats... country *AND* western. 03:06 < BHSPitMonkey> birdfish: ipodlinux.org/installation_from_linux 03:07 < spazzium_> I'll make it prettier, once i get it installed :) 03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 03:07 < courtc> BleuLlama: heh 03:07 < wizisi2k> I'll install it once 5g suppourt is MUCH better than it is right now 03:07 < spazzium_> BleuLlama: which would you like, the hospital, or the cemetary 03:07 < birdfish> actually, I'll be back in just a minute. I need to reboot the computer. 03:08 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [] 03:08 < wizisi2k> hey they have pre alpga suppourt right now 03:08 < wizisi2k> so it's only a matter of time 03:08 < spazzium_> BHSPitLappy: at least with this new partitioning setup, deep sleeps won't corrupt my linux install 03:08 < wizisi2k> meh 03:08 < wizisi2k> on my 4g ipod photo I have no problem 03:09 < BleuLlama> spazzium_: come again? 03:09 < spazzium_> BleuLlama: using josh's new reccomended partitioning setup 03:10 < BleuLlama> i was referring to your prior comment 03:10 < spazzium_> oh... you've never heard someone holding up their fists and asking "which would you like?" 03:10 < courtc> What is "josh_ new partitioning setup"? 03:10 < BleuLlama> someone did that to me once 03:10 < BleuLlama> once. 03:10 < spazzium_> haha 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> * BleuLlama is probably a novice streetfighter 03:11 < spazzium_> courtc: just involves not touching 1st partition 03:11 * BleuLlama decides that after those two movie references, to continue throughout the night 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> (that never wins...) 03:11 -!- alange [n=medium_w@ip70-179-114-236.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit ["Idle #lefthanded; GameSurge's left handed community!"] 03:11 < spazzium_> turns out the apple firmware likes to write the suspend to that area 03:11 < spazzium_> and overwrite stuff one would usually like to keep 03:11 < courtc> What is it though. 03:12 < spazzium_> oh 03:12 < courtc> s/./?/ 03:12 < spazzium_> just look at the new instaallation from linux guide 03:12 < BleuLlama> is that where it writes the info about bookmarks and such? 03:12 < spazzium_> he edited it 03:12 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: that's about as explicit as it gets 03:12 < courtc> uh, what? 03:12 < BHSPitMonkey> apple sleep likes to suspend to flash in sda1, but that overwrites our sda3's 03:12 < spazzium_> right 03:13 < spazzium_> so josh is having everyone resize the 2nd partition 03:13 < courtc> haha, no. 03:13 < BHSPitMonkey> no what 03:13 < spazzium_> I've had it happen on mine 03:13 < BHSPitMonkey> me too 03:13 < BHSPitMonkey> i just thought my desktop os was corrupting during file transfers... 03:13 < courtc> ugh. 03:13 < spazzium_> I thought sunspots were raining on my flash memory :) 03:15 < courtc> nasty. 03:16 < wizisi2k> anyone know of a program to convert .mkv format videos to .avi? 03:16 < wizisi2k> I really need it 03:16 < spazzium_> use virtualdub and demux the mkv first 03:16 < BHSPitMonkey> haven't you asked this 03:16 < wizisi2k> how do I demux it 03:16 < spazzium_> 'tis a mystery 03:16 < courtc> Why are there images at the bottom of Installation_from_linux? 03:17 < BHSPitMonkey> no clue. 03:17 < BHSPitMonkey> aren't a lot of them floydzilla 03:17 < spazzium_> incredible how you ask how to do it without having looked at virtualdub 03:17 < spazzium_> yeah, the floydzilla pictures need to die 03:17 < BHSPitMonkey> agreed. 03:18 < BleuLlama> zot 'em 03:18 < BHSPitMonkey> voip 'em! 03:19 < spazzium_> fladers them! 03:19 < spazzium_> ... 03:19 < spazzium_> splendiferous 03:19 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh 03:20 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:21 -!- Resonant [n=Resonant@ip70-161-239-5.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [] 03:21 -!- yod|pala_ [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:22 < courtc> jonrelay: ping 03:22 < jonrelay> pong 03:22 < BleuLlama> well, if none of you are doing it. i'll do it 03:22 < courtc> re: Podzilla_features 03:22 < courtc> MPD should be MPDc perhaps? 03:23 < jonrelay> That makes sense. 03:23 < courtc> also "iTunes Music" ? 03:23 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 < BHSPitMonkey> woah now. 03:23 < BHSPitMonkey> don't confuse the people. 03:23 < jonrelay> I'm not really sure what that refers to actually. :/ 03:24 < jonrelay> I think it refers to the system we had before. 03:24 < courtc> perhaps change it to "iTunesDB browsing", or something? 03:24 < jonrelay> Got it. 03:24 < courtc> Currently we don't support anything of the sort in pz2. 03:25 < courtc> mpd will take over the task of iTunesDB stuff eventually. 03:25 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:26 < spazzium_> DB browsing still borked in pz2? 03:26 < courtc> First libitunesdb stuff needs fixing, we might want to look at what gtkpod has too. 03:26 < courtc> spazzium_: non-existant. 03:26 < spazzium_> you know my brother might be able to help 03:26 < spazzium_> wrote dopi and ipod-sharp 03:26 < spazzium_> is very familiar with itunes-db 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> aw, you're proud 03:27 < spazzium_> yeah, pretty much 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> how disney 03:27 < spazzium_> haha 03:27 < spazzium_> What's your name? Brian. OK... BRRIIIAANN 03:27 < courtc> We have the most thorough documentation on itunesdb on the wiki. 03:27 < BHSPitLappy> what's that from? 03:28 < spazzium_> family guy 03:28 < BHSPitLappy> thought so 03:28 < BHSPitLappy> which one? 03:28 < spazzium_> uh... can't remember ep 03:28 < spazzium_> it's the one where Brian moves to california and directs porn movies 03:28 < BHSPitLappy> oh 03:28 < BHSPitLappy> oh 03:28 < spazzium_> heh 03:28 < BHSPitLappy> the michael eisner scene 03:28 < spazzium_> yeah, michael eisner says that line 03:28 < spazzium_> michael eisner himself 03:29 < BHSPitLappy> see you at disneyland! BRING MONEY. 03:29 < courtc> Just need someone motivated enough to take up maintaining the itunesdb stuff.. 03:29 < spazzium_> haha 03:29 < spazzium_> courtc: well he already maintains it for hiw own stuff 03:29 < spazzium_> every time they update itunes he puts out a new version of dopi 03:29 < BHSPitLappy> yeah...just as soon as we get it working, apple will add in virtual reality 03:30 < BHSPitLappy> probably an itunes games store actually. 03:30 < spazzium_> s/hiw/his 03:30 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit ["brb"] 03:30 < courtc> Yes, but is it fast enough to work on the ipod? 03:30 < spazzium_> no 03:31 < courtc> ok then. 03:31 < spazzium_> well... where his knowledge would come in handy is his knowledge of itunesdb 03:31 * codenode isn't running iTunes currently. 03:31 < spazzium_> his stuff is written for mono 03:31 < courtc> UGH! 03:31 < birdfish> Is ipodlinux stable on the nano? 03:31 * courtc pukes 03:31 < spazzium_> hahahaha 03:32 < spazzium_> birdfish, that's like the 12th time you've asked that 03:32 < spazzium_> yes, it's stable on the nano 03:32 < birdfish> Heh. I was asking how to install before. But thanks spazzium_ 03:33 < courtc> spazzium_: we do have all of the itunesdb documented though.. 03:33 < spazzium_> it's just implementing it? 03:33 -!- karmon [n=Armon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3735654.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:33 < courtc> or fixing the existing library 03:33 < spazzium_> heh 03:33 < courtc> and maintaining it. 03:35 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB 03:35 -!- h2oboarder619 [i=h2oboard@user-12l2hj0.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:37 < spazzium_> I better reboot so this machine has time to bring windows back up 03:37 -!- spazzium_ [n=spazzium@mathb22pc1.ics.purdue.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:38 < BleuLlama> i should ban him from the channel, just to confuse him when he comes back 03:39 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!n=spazzium@mathb22pc1.ics.purdue.edu ] by aegray 03:39 -!- Alth [n=chatzill@202.61.152.111] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 < Alth> Hola. 03:40 -!- Alth [n=chatzill@202.61.152.111] has quit [Client Quit] 03:41 < jonrelay> That was fast. 03:41 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has joined #ipodlinux 03:41 < BHSPitLappy> lol 03:41 < Alth> Ah. 03:41 < Alth> Better. 03:41 < BHSPitLappy> you okay? 03:41 < BHSPitLappy> chatzilla is very confusing sometimes, isn't it. 03:41 < Alth> Talkin' to me? Yes. :) 03:41 * Alth hugs mIRC 03:42 < BleuLlama> there are too many 'zilla's 03:42 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: delete all the immitators 03:42 < BHSPitLappy> especially relayzilla, that one is the worst... 03:42 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: eewww. 03:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!n=spazzium@mathb22pc1.ics.purdue.edu ] by aegray 03:42 < jonrelay> That darn relayzilla. 03:42 < BleuLlama> no; i mean including podzilla. 03:42 < Alth> BHSPitLappy: your problem is what? MY mIRC! MINE! 03:42 < jonrelay> Gives all the other ones a bad name. 03:43 < BHSPitLappy> and godzilla 03:43 < BHSPitLappy> he makes us look bad 03:43 < courtc> so, um.. Can someone with a Photo/Color/Video/Nano and podcasts on their ipod give me the entire contents of /iPod_Control/iTunes ? 03:43 < Alth> Ok, so I have a question. 03:44 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: we don't have podcasts, because pz0 doesn't like them. 03:44 < courtc> need artwork too.. 03:44 < BHSPitLappy> i do have some artwork... 03:44 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: I'm trying to fix that. 03:44 < BHSPitLappy> :P 03:44 < BHSPitLappy> i have a podcast on itunes though, shouldnt be hard 03:44 < courtc> Well, maybe not pz0 directly... 03:45 < jonrelay> I have a video with artwork, but no podcasts. :/ 03:45 < Alth> I'm running FloydZilla on my mini. So...(and I know I should reread the FAQs etc, but I'm lazy), is it possible to run multiple shell-thingers, and should I bother? 03:45 < courtc> I guess that may work for now... 03:45 < courtc> Alth: I'm too lazy to answer. 03:46 * Alth nods 03:46 < aegray> wtf is a shell-thinger 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> i believe it's a tty (?) 03:46 < Alth> Shell-thinger. Ya know. Whatsit. 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> maybe i'm confusing acronyms though 03:46 < Alth> Garr. FloydZilla, Podzilla, etc. 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> oh... 03:46 < courtc> vt 03:46 < aegray> run one from the filebrowser 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 03:46 < BHSPitLappy> that's fine 03:47 < jonrelay> Tshell-ThYnger... 03:47 < Alth> Rofl. Indeed. 03:47 < aegray> or press control+alt+fx where x is the number of the terminal you want 03:47 * courtc coughs. 03:47 < aegray> thanks 03:47 < courtc> aegray: what's up? 03:48 < aegray> i dunno 03:48 < courtc> jonrelay: can you tar /iPod_Control/iTunes dir up for me? 03:49 < jonrelay> OK. 03:49 < courtc> (With the artwork too.) 03:49 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: i'm downloading a podcast. 03:49 * Alth yawns 03:49 < BHSPitLappy> too bad TWiT isn't smaller... 03:49 < jonrelay> I'm going to find a podcast to subscribe to too. 03:49 < courtc> cool 03:50 < BHSPitLappy> err 03:50 < jonrelay> But I'll bundle up my current iTunesDB in the meantime. 03:50 < BHSPitLappy> not sure i want courtc to know my taste in music :S 03:51 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: I don't care what you listen too. 03:51 < Alth> So Floydzilla crashes all the time...what's the most stable 'zilla? 03:51 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: umm...the real one 03:52 < Alth> Podzilla? Mrm. 03:52 < BHSPitLappy> why would you use unofficial, unstable shells? 03:52 < Alth> Because a friend of mine decided to steal my mini, whack 'podlinux on there, and install Floydzilla. So... 03:53 < BHSPitLappy> find better friends. 03:53 < courtc> indeed. 03:53 < BHSPitLappy> hmm, why is itunes_control 20MB? 03:53 < Alth> Indeed. 03:53 < BHSPitLappy> seems a little excessive 03:53 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: I don't need that file. 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> it's in that folder you want... 03:54 < Alth> Ok. So here comes a stupid question. 03:54 < courtc> I know. 03:54 < Alth> How do I change the Zillas? 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: ipodlinux.org/updating_podzilla 03:54 < jonrelay> Wow, my iTunesControl is 56MB. 03:54 -!- birdfish [i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [] 03:54 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: err, can you take a .zip 03:54 < Alth> Yes Mr. BHSPitLappy. 03:55 < courtc> sure 03:55 < jonrelay> What is iEKInfo? 03:55 < Alth> Ok, so how do I do that whilst keeping FloydZilla? 03:55 < courtc> jonrelay: dunno, don't need it. 03:56 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: how do you want it 03:56 < BHSPitLappy> e-mail? 03:57 < courtc> sure, courtc(X)ipodlinux.org 03:57 < Alth> Anyone? 03:57 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: why keep it 03:58 < Alth> BHSPitLappy: cuz it's got shiny stuff. 03:58 < jonrelay> Alth: Drag-and-drop podzilla onto the iPod, and launch it from Floyd's file browser. 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> no it doesn't 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> it's HORRIBLE! 03:58 < Alth> Shiny. 03:58 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: show alth a mpdc screenie! 03:58 < Alth> jonrelay: the .gz file? 03:59 < Alth> BHSPitLappy/courtc: aye. Show me a whatsit thinger. 03:59 < jonrelay> No, what's inside the gz file. 03:59 < courtc> Alth: http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/mpdc 03:59 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: sent 03:59 < Alth> Hmm. Stupidity mode cutting in. 03:59 < courtc> Thanks. 03:59 < Alth> SHINY! 03:59 < jonrelay> Mine's taking 55 minutes. :/ 04:00 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: also note http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar6.png ! 04:00 < Alth> ooh. 04:01 < Alth> But...mine's grayscale. No shininess for me :( 04:01 < jonrelay> See what we meant when we said Floyd didn't have shiny things. :) 04:01 < Alth> Yes. Understood. 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> that's weird 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> my iTunes/iTunesPodcasts file is empty 04:02 < Alth> So...would that look crappy on my mini? 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: not really 04:02 < BHSPitLappy> the schemes are customizable anyway 04:03 < Alth> Neat. 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> do 2-bit png's work in schemes? 04:03 < Alth> So how do I run that then? :) 04:03 < BHSPitLappy> Alth: wellll, that was actually podzilla 2 04:03 -!- karmon [n=Armon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3735654.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:03 < Alth> Yuh huh. 04:04 < BHSPitLappy> (website)\podzilla 04:04 * Alth is very stupid today. And every day. 04:06 < Alth> Ok, so. The CVS I just downloaded will be PZ2 or PZ? 04:07 < courtc> CVS is pz0 04:07 < Alth> Ah. 04:07 < Alth> So what if I want to run all three? 04:07 < BHSPitMonkey> podzilla2 is kept on svn 04:07 < courtc> You probably don't have enough ram 04:07 < BHSPitMonkey> umm, put pz0 in there, run it by default in /etc/rc 04:08 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: i doubt he means all in a chain 04:08 < BHSPitMonkey> (/she?) 04:08 < Alth> (he). 04:08 < BHSPitMonkey> heh. 04:08 < jonrelay> shehs. 04:09 < Alth> Ok, one of you will have to walk me through it later. I'm gonna go take some painkillers and go to sleep. Can't think. 04:09 < Alth> Thanks for the help. Back later :) 04:09 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has quit ["I wonder if I paid my internet bill this mo...*User Disconnected*"] 04:09 < BleuLlama> who's the lucky person that gets to walk him through it later? 04:10 < courtc> Mr. wiki 04:10 < courtc> or Dr Google 04:10 < BHSPitMonkey> so he did get the doctorate? 04:10 < rbz`> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar6.png 04:10 < rbz`> is that a real theme right now? 04:10 < BHSPitMonkey> uh yeah 04:10 < BHSPitMonkey> my nano looks like that. 04:11 < rbz`> sweetness 04:11 < rbz`> was it hard getting pz2 on there? 04:11 < BHSPitMonkey> no, since i (sort of) know what i'm doing 04:11 < BHSPitMonkey> and josh spoils me 04:11 < rbz`> what, just compiling, right? 04:11 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm 04:14 < rbz`> :o 04:14 < rbz`> what other type of themes are there? 04:15 < BHSPitMonkey> plenty... 04:15 < BHSPitMonkey> certainly not going to list them for you though 04:15 < rbz`> got screenshots? 04:15 < rbz`> i cant find any on the website 04:15 < BHSPitMonkey> he sent you the link 04:15 * courtc points out to josh that a cs page would be handy right at this moment. 04:15 < BHSPitMonkey> it had like 6 schemes 04:16 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/mpdc 04:16 < BHSPitMonkey> please, courtc, counterstrike is a little burned out 04:16 * courtc grumbles. 04:17 * BHSPitMonkey plays bejeweled on his nano 04:21 < BHSPitMonkey> oh wow 04:21 < BHSPitMonkey> remember the screen saver idea? 04:21 < BHSPitMonkey> rockbox has some really neat ones 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ha, and pong is 2 player 04:23 < rbz`> 2 player? 04:23 < rbz`> bah 04:23 < rbz`> what's the point of having the close buttons and all in some of those themes? 04:24 < courtc> ? 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> rbz`: those aren't in podzilla 04:24 < rbz`> oh, ok 04:24 < BHSPitMonkey> those screenshots are taken from a desktop build 04:24 < rbz`> alright 04:24 < rbz`> i see you have the desktop setup for such then 04:25 < BHSPitMonkey> yes, i do, but i didn't take those shots :P 04:25 < rbz`> im talking about http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/rand/pz2-familiar6.png 04:25 < courtc> also mine ;) 04:25 < BleuLlama> somebody needs to write a card game engine, and similarly, a tile game engine (solitaire and mah jongg) 04:26 < BleuLlama> and i know i just volunteered to do it 04:26 < BHSPitMonkey> BleuLlama: solitaire = apple_os 04:26 < courtc> I started with a card game engine for pawn, but you know how that goes... 04:26 < rbz`> hows the new apple firmware 04:26 < rbz`> i havent even touched it yet 04:26 < BleuLlama> BHSPitMonkey: yeah, but it doesn't have freecell, and it has no options for it. (draw 3, etc) 04:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i guess 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm playing solitaire on my nano 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> with a draw 3 option 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> not in apple os 04:27 < BHSPitMonkey> so ha 04:32 < BHSPitMonkey> there's even a starfield app! you should look at that source, BleuLlama 04:33 < jonrelay> Is this in rockbox? 04:33 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 04:33 < jonrelay> I see. 04:34 < BHSPitMonkey> it's had some breakthroughs for the ipod in the last few days 04:34 < BHSPitMonkey> now it runs amazingly...feels as native as apple! :S 04:35 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 < rbz`> now i need to install it 04:35 < rbz`> :o 04:35 < BHSPitMonkey> what 04:43 < rbz`> install pz2 and all 04:43 < rbz`> i still have pz1 04:43 < rbz`> or pz0 04:43 < rbz`> and everything from 11/13/05 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> haha 04:44 < BHSPitMonkey> follow the directions at wiki\podzilla 04:47 < rbz`> should i use the new apple firmware as well? 04:48 < BHSPitMonkey> i don't. 04:49 < rbz`> i heard it was giving issues with ipod video 04:49 < rbz`> and people were having to downgrade 04:49 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 04:50 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:52 < jonrelay> courtc: http://www.kreativekorp.com/ipl/itunesdb.tgz 04:52 < jonrelay> It's huge, you might not want it. :/ 04:54 < courtc> I'll take it ;) 04:55 < BHSPitMonkey> eew. 04:55 < BHSPitMonkey> have any of you tried rockbox? 04:57 < jonrelay> When I've gotten this podcast downloaded, do you need the artwork again or just the db? 04:57 < rbz`> what is rockbox? 04:57 < courtc> just the db 04:57 < BHSPitMonkey> it's an alternative firmware for archos, iriver, and now ipods. 04:57 < jonrelay> OK, that's a relief. :) 04:58 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:58 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:59 < spazzium> BHSPitMonkey: are you using bootloader2? 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> ipodloader2 05:00 < spazzium> yeah 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> and it doesn't work with rockbox yet (Though it's said to be an easy change) 05:00 < spazzium> you have it installed on your nano? 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 05:00 < spazzium> did you have to do anything special? 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> i had to use rockbox's bootloader to run it 05:00 < spazzium> oh? 05:00 -!- _javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> i've switched back to ipodloader2 now, though 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> playtime's over :) 05:00 < spazzium> oh 05:00 < spazzium> hehe 05:01 < spazzium> you didn't have to do anything special outside of the wiki instructions? 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> for loader2? 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> no 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> bbl 05:01 < spazzium> hmmm 05:01 < spazzium> k 05:05 < BHSPitLappy> one little, two little, three Little Endian 05:05 < spazzium> har har 05:05 < BHSPitLappy> slowcoder: ping 05:05 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: pong 05:05 < BHSPitLappy> grr 05:06 < jonrelay> Packet got routed to the wrong server. ;) 05:06 < BHSPitLappy> ok 05:06 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: ping 05:06 < BHSPitLappy> that should do it 05:06 < spazzium> damn Cisco employees taking LSD 05:06 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: pong 05:06 < BHSPitLappy> /nickserv ghost courtc isuck 05:06 < BHSPitLappy> damn 05:07 < aegray> `firmware 05:07 < aegray> `wiki firmware 05:07 < iplbot> firmware (http://www.ipodlinux.org/firmware) [20413 bytes] 05:08 < BHSPitLappy> lazy... 05:08 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:08 -!- _javyx is now known as javyx 05:08 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: i think i'm just gonna go ahead and do an SFont with podium 05:08 < jonrelay> Go for it. :) 05:09 < BHSPitLappy> probably not tonight though, school tomorrow 05:09 < jonrelay> Yeah, me too. 05:09 < BHSPitLappy> cuantos anyos tienes? 05:09 < aegray> nice spelling 05:09 < spazzium> anos 05:09 < BHSPitLappy> too lazy to get out a tilde symbol 05:09 < aegray> anos = assholes 05:09 < spazzium> hahaha 05:09 < jonrelay> diecenuevos aƱos 05:10 < spazzium> ANOS! 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: err, aegray said it first 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> how many assholes do you have? 05:10 < jonrelay> I don't even remember if that's right. :/ 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> it looks like #ipodlinux has 69 anos at the moment. 05:10 < tarpman> ! 05:10 < aegray> there are 69 of you? 05:10 * tarpman kicks BHSPitLappy 05:10 < spazzium> 12 years old? 05:10 < spazzium> WHAT? 05:10 < spazzium> :) 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> 19 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> he said 19 05:10 < BHSPitLappy> sort of 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> 10-new years 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> heh 05:11 < spazzium> diecinueve 05:11 < spazzium> ... 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: do you read a lot? 05:11 < jonrelay> Two years since high school Spanish. :P 05:11 < jonrelay> Read a lot of what? 05:11 < BHSPitLappy> books... 05:11 < jonrelay> Not really. 05:11 < spazzium> porn mags... 05:12 < jonrelay> Though I'd like to. 05:12 < BHSPitLappy> just that you're the project's gutenberg, thought you might be a bookworm 05:12 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: uh huh 05:12 < jonrelay> I just don't have enough time. 05:12 < jonrelay> It's all wasted on the forum. 05:12 < spazzium> haha 05:12 < BHSPitLappy> i don't have enough interest in written language. 05:12 < spazzium> you need to just drop those bastages 05:12 < spazzium> the forums are a lost cause 05:12 < jonrelay> Yep. 05:12 < BHSPitLappy> declare martial law 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> and let them die out 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> make EVERYONE a mod! 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> haha 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> imagine the chaos 05:13 < jonrelay> You'll either end up with complete gibberish or a completely empty forum. 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> the aim is the latter 05:14 < jonrelay> And seeing as it's almost complete gibberish right now... 05:14 < josh_> wow haha 05:14 < josh_> In file included from menu.c:21: 05:14 < josh_> ttk.h:30:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory 05:14 < josh_> ttk.h:31:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> HAHA 05:14 -!- intim [n=benzyl@d041167.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:14 < jonrelay> I do read a lot of web sites though. I don't think that counts. 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> booble? 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> *google 05:16 < jonrelay> I just find random things. Find a link somewhere and keep following it until I end up somewhere completely different. :) 05:16 < spazzium> I think I'm gonna name that activity something... 05:16 < spazzium> something catchy 05:16 < BHSPitLappy> "windows metafile backdoor? looks interesting" 05:16 < spazzium> something hip... west cost 05:16 < BHSPitLappy> *hour later* 05:17 < spazzium> SURFING 05:17 < spazzium> that's it, I'll call it surfing 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> "doesn't that hurt her?" 05:17 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 05:17 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: hilarious 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> almost as hilarious as the surfing comments. 05:17 < jonrelay> Yeah. Almost. 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> wow...spaz and i need to be seperated 05:18 < jonrelay> *sepArated 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> i know 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> didn't care to correct myself 05:18 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: funny enough I just told my roomate 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> and now i've typed even more. thanks. 05:18 < spazzium> he's still laughing 05:18 < jonrelay> *roomMate 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> ok. 05:18 * jonrelay stfu 05:18 < BHSPitLappy> jonrelay: bookworm 05:19 < spazzium> mississipi 05:19 < spazzium> DO IT 05:19 < spazzium> you know you want to 05:19 < josh_> mississippi 05:19 < jonrelay> Well, since you asked. 05:19 < jonrelay> ah :( 05:19 < BHSPitLappy> jonrlay 05:19 < spazzium> haha 05:19 < jonrelay> *jonrElay 05:20 < BHSPitLappy> fsck 05:20 -!- intim [n=benzyl@d041167.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 05:21 < jonrelay> I refuse to go there. 05:21 < BHSPitLappy> lol 05:21 < BHSPitLappy> e2fsck? 05:21 < josh_> that was my password for a while.. 05:21 < BHSPitLappy> hah 05:22 < spazzium> that's the same combination I have on my luggage! 05:22 < BHSPitLappy> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5! 05:22 < BHSPitLappy> amazing! 05:22 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:23 < BHSPitLappy> i gave out my root/e-mail/bank/etc password in freenode by accident a week or 2 ago 05:23 < BHSPitLappy> damn kde window focus sucks 05:23 < BHSPitLappy> can the header bg be a png? [ontopic] 05:24 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: themeing? 05:24 < BHSPitLappy> yup 05:24 < spazzium> sweet 05:24 < BHSPitLappy> well 05:24 < spazzium> I will be too, soon... soon 05:24 < BHSPitLappy> personal use 05:24 < BHSPitLappy> i tried using a png as my background, that didn't work at all 05:25 < jonrelay> Grah. The iPod updater is frozen and can't be killed. :( 05:25 < BHSPitLappy> ha 05:26 < spazzium> in what OS? 05:26 < spazzium> to BHSPitLappy 05:26 < jonrelay> OS X. 05:26 < spazzium> :) 05:26 < jonrelay> nvm 05:26 < spazzium> kill -9 that bastage 05:26 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium: iPL 05:26 < spazzium> oh 05:27 < jonrelay> I did that several times, it won't die. 05:28 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:28 < spazzium> it must have a dependent service or something 05:29 < spazzium> see if lsof has anything for you 05:29 < jonrelay> Holy crap, I should have read the man page before trying that. :o 05:29 < BHSPitLappy> lol 05:30 < josh_> jonrelay: what'd you do? 05:30 < spazzium> probably typed lsof :) 05:31 < jonrelay> Yep, and it spewed forth all open files. :) 05:31 < spazzium> which if I remember gives you every file currently being accessed 05:31 < spazzium> hehe... 05:32 < BHSPitLappy> list open files? 05:34 < jonrelay> It gives me /, /dev/null, /dev/console, a couple file structs, Carbon.fw/HIToolbox.fw/Extras.rsrc 05:35 * courtc finally made a makefile for libitunesdb 05:35 < BHSPitLappy> w00t 05:35 < BHSPitLappy> my stuff help at all? 05:35 < spazzium> ok... just installed podzilla 2 05:35 < courtc> working on it BHSPitLappy 05:35 < BHSPitLappy> oh 05:36 < jonrelay> And now iTunes is frozen and won't die. >:( 05:36 -!- karmon [n=Armon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3735654.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 05:36 < BHSPitLappy> why anything would refuse to die is beyond me. 05:43 < spazzium> wee 05:43 < spazzium> pz2 is fairly hot 05:43 < spazzium> so is there an udpated mpdc module I can insert? 05:44 < courtc> svn 05:44 < spazzium> it doesn't come with the rest of the modules? 05:45 < courtc> did you compile from svn? 05:45 < spazzium> yeah 05:45 < courtc> then you have it. 05:45 < spazzium> ahhh 05:45 < spazzium> just no database 05:45 < spazzium> that's right 05:45 < courtc> just no daemon 05:45 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:46 < jonrelay> Is there anything stronger than kill -9? 05:47 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A84F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 05:47 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A84F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 05:47 < courtc> no, basically you're dealing with a suspended process... 05:48 < jonrelay> Is there a way to ... unsuspend it? :/ 05:48 < courtc> find out whatever is suspending it... 05:49 < josh_> jonrelay: kill -CONT? 05:49 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: you got your hands dirty with loader2, right? 05:49 < josh_> yep 05:49 < josh_> why? 05:49 < courtc> It's likely looking for something that isn't there anymore, eg a hard disk/filesystem 05:50 < josh_> jonrelay: what does ps list its state as? 05:50 < josh_> if it's "D" or "Z", you can't kill it. "S" or "R", you can. 05:50 < jonrelay> grah, this font I'm using in Terminal has no bold :( 05:51 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: purty please, add the load_rockbox function :P 05:51 < jonrelay> josh_: It's "U". 05:52 < courtc> U 05:52 < courtc> yea... 05:52 < spazzium> .. User? :) 05:52 < courtc> Uninterruptible sleep 05:52 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:53 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-65-41-247-178.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 < BHSPitLappy> kind of like how i sleep...heheh 05:54 < BHSPitLappy> josh_: i'll empty my paypal account to iPL if you make it work :P 05:54 < courtc> 30c ? 05:54 < BleuLlama> 429,000 05:55 < BHSPitLappy> more like $2 but still 05:55 < BHSPitLappy> they say it's supposed to be an easy addition 05:56 < BHSPitLappy> I even have the link to the source file that contains the function, http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/bootloader/ipod.c?view=markup 05:56 < BHSPitLappy> i tried myself, but i don't have enough EXP points :( 05:56 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: why are you so fascinated with rockbox? 05:56 < jonrelay> I think they're all trying to access my iPod, which I have since disconnected. 05:57 < spazzium> ipl is clearly superior :) 05:57 < BHSPitLappy> cuz' it's fun. 05:57 < courtc> jonrelay: replug 05:57 < jonrelay> But now it appears as Jonathyn Bet'nct's iPod 1 instead of Jonathyn Bet'nct's iPod. 05:58 < BHSPitLappy> that's what you named it? 05:58 < spazzium> you a babylon 5 fan or something? :) 05:58 < courtc> ... 05:58 < spazzium> what? 05:58 -!- joecool|sleep [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:58 < BHSPitLappy> that's what WE want to know, spazzium 05:58 < spazzium> dn't tell me that's a human name 05:58 < BHSPitLappy> that's his name, ASS 05:59 < spazzium> o rly? 05:59 < spazzium> ok... 05:59 * spazzium shoots self 05:59 < spazzium> I've now dropped to forum level 05:59 < spazzium> ignore me 05:59 < BHSPitLappy> apostrophated, but his name nonetheless 06:00 < jonrelay> Is there a way to get the first one to disappear from /Volumes? 06:00 < spazzium> yeah 06:00 < spazzium> just unmount it 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> wth 06:00 < spazzium> or eject the device 06:00 < BHSPitLappy> there 06:01 < BleuLlama> 430,000 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> 5,280 06:01 < BHSPitLappy> 6.022x10^23! 06:02 < jonrelay> Grah, it has a curly quote in it and the * wildcard isn't picking it up anymore. :/ 06:04 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: remind me tomorrow 06:04 < BHSPitLappy> :D 06:05 < BHSPitLappy> of course, if you were getting stuff accomplished with HD, then my entire request is withdrawn 06:09 < jonrelay> OK, bash will pick it up, but it says it's not currently mounted. :/ 06:10 < spazzium> crap 06:10 < spazzium> I wish I still had taht picture 06:10 < spazzium> of the interted apple_fw 06:11 < spazzium> uhh 06:11 < spazzium> *inverted 06:17 < karmon> hey i just have a quick question 06:18 < karmon> say you were going to include a header file into a program 06:18 < karmon> say libjpeg.h for example 06:18 < karmon> how does the compiler know where to find libjpeg.h? 06:19 < jonrelay> OK, I'm about to kill WindowServer... 06:19 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:19 < BHSPitLappy> haha 06:19 < spazzium> http://members.shaw.ca/storage_3/ipodblackmenu.jpg 06:19 < spazzium> sweet 06:19 < spazzium> there it is 06:20 < spazzium> I'm gonna make that 06:21 < spazzium> hahaha 06:21 < spazzium> I bet jonrelay just rebooted to kill that 06:22 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h60n8c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:25 < BHSPitLappy> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060109/480/nyet27501091906# 06:30 < spazzium> OLD... 06:30 < spazzium> cute little cyclops kitty 06:31 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-65-41-247-178.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:40 -!- karmon [n=Armon@Toronto-HSE-ppp3735654.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:41 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:43 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:45 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:45 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:46 < jonrelay> courtc: http://www.kreativekorp.com/ipl/itunesdbwpodcast.tgz 06:46 < jonrelay> 1 video podcast and 1 audio podcast on there. 06:47 < courtc> k, cool, thanks. 06:48 < jonrelay> np. 06:48 < jonrelay> Well, lots of problems, but none with you. ;) 06:53 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:53 -!- ramses5th [n=benzyl@c130151.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 06:56 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:00 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-214-200-107.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit ["I bad want sleep now. 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It works fine for me =\ I was playing it a fair bit, use photo screen res or higher 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: well, it's mainly the physics engine 07:46 < BHSPitLappy> it's nothing like the famous flash game :S 07:46 < EvilDude> yeah i know :( 07:47 < BHSPitLappy> like, if i held the button a second or so and let go, it would keep ascending 07:47 < EvilDude> I only rewrote it to get used to pz2, now I know some of the functions etc so I can do some more useful stuff :D 07:47 < BHSPitLappy> until it hit the ceiling 07:47 < EvilDude> BHSPitLappy: yeah I think thats a bug in the desktop build - hapenned to me too 07:47 < EvilDude> for some reason the key up event isn't sent =\ 07:47 < EvilDude> so it thinks it's still being held down 07:47 < BHSPitLappy> it doesn't incorporate enough gravity stuff yet, like if you switch directions it just switches, instead of slowing down 07:47 < EvilDude> court: all the todo stuff doesn't seem so easy ;) 07:47 < BHSPitLappy> don't get me wrong, it's great work so far 07:48 < BHSPitLappy> but it definitely has room to grow :) 07:48 < EvilDude> haha I think it should :| I'll have a look into it one day again when I get bored :P 07:48 < EvilDude> haha yep 07:48 < BHSPitLappy> once it's finished, it will surely occupy a large percentage of my class time 07:48 < EvilDude> I implemented high scores too :D That made me proud :P Although done very dodgily :P 07:48 < courtc> EvilDude: make sure to return TTK_EV_UNUSED on unused event types.. 07:48 < EvilDude> haha, it used a lot of my class time in school ;) 07:48 < EvilDude> hm yeah, I was a bit unsure of what to return at times =\ 07:49 < courtc> That'll fix the key_up not being sent bug. 07:49 < EvilDude> eg the TTK_EV_CLICK - is that if you want clicker to click ? 07:49 < EvilDude> Ohhh!!! 07:49 < courtc> yup 07:49 < courtc> otherwise it thinks you use the PZ_EVENT_HELD (or whatever it is) 07:50 < EvilDude> ah, I see 07:50 < courtc> Which gets sent after 500ms of holding down a button. 07:50 < EvilDude> hm I'll have a look into that then 07:50 < EvilDude> might as well upgrade to latest pz2 as well while I'm at it - I want to play with the now playing stuff : 07:50 < courtc> and a HELD even xors a KEY_UP 07:50 < courtc> event* 07:51 < EvilDude> hm do you know if the lyrics from iTunes stored in the iTunesDB? 07:52 < spazzium> they're not 07:52 < spazzium> err 07:52 < spazzium> well 07:52 < spazzium> in the iTunesDB yes 07:52 < spazzium> but it doesn't make it to the ipod 07:53 < BHSPitLappy> i believe so 07:53 < BHSPitLappy> i can read lyrics in the apple player 07:53 < EvilDude> :S so the 5g actually reads the lyrics from the mp3 header? 07:53 < BHSPitLappy> i dunno which it is then :/ 07:54 < courtc> ugh, I can probably double the speed of the itunesdb reader. 07:54 < EvilDude> really!? how so? 07:55 < courtc> it indexes for every value. 07:55 < courtc> itohl(&((uint32_t *) pc->buf)[OFFSET_MHYP_PLTYPE]) 07:55 < EvilDude> i dont know what you mean =\ 07:56 < courtc> instead of itohl(((uint32_t *) pc->buf + OFFSET_MHYP_PLTYPE)) 07:56 < EvilDude> ohhh i see 07:56 < BHSPitLappy> w00t, a dev just had a revelation 07:56 < EvilDude> hm I'm gonna plug in my iPod and find the lyrics in that iTunesDB :p 07:57 < EvilDude> actually wait a minute, they wouldn't be there =\ 07:57 < EvilDude> Unless Apple actually reads the lyrics from the iTunesDB as required 07:58 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: duplicate a song on the ipod 07:58 < BHSPitLappy> and then add lyrics to one 07:58 < BHSPitLappy> see if their file sizes differ 07:58 < EvilDude> they would, it's also stored in the mp3 tag supposedly 07:59 < BHSPitLappy> also? 07:59 < EvilDude> well it's stored in mp3 tag, but I presume iTunes stores it elsewhere as well :P 07:59 < EvilDude> it just seems .. so un Apple to actually read something from the file rather than keep their own database :p 08:00 < EvilDude> (btw the apple appearance looks a lot better now than it did from the version I checked out :P) 08:02 < BHSPitLappy> Familiar? 08:02 < EvilDude> yeah 08:02 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 08:03 < BHSPitLappy> ooh! svn up and check out fxb's sexy calendar!! 08:04 < EvilDude> hmm time to svn this will take time :P 08:05 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-33-134-243.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:06 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-158-70-29.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:06 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 08:06 < EvilDude> how's the 5g going, any luck with faster screen access? 08:06 < BHSPitLappy> nope 08:06 < BHSPitLappy> isn't that why we sent you way for 2 mos? to get datasheets? 08:06 < BHSPitLappy> *away 08:06 < EvilDude> :P damn 08:07 < BHSPitLappy> you mean you failed the mission! 08:07 < EvilDude> unfortunately :( 08:07 < spazzium> heh 08:11 < EvilDude> ok screw this 08:11 < EvilDude> colinux + dialup is bad 08:12 < BHSPitLappy> heh 08:12 < EvilDude> i'll wait till I go to cousins in a week or so and I get adsl =\ 08:12 < BHSPitLappy> haha 08:12 < BHSPitLappy> get a wireless card 08:12 < BHSPitLappy> i'm on the neighbors now 08:12 < EvilDude> haha, i have a wireless 08:12 < EvilDude> but not many people have wireless here :( 08:13 < EvilDude> what's so good about this calendar :P? 08:13 < EvilDude> screenie? 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> look at its module page 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/calendar 08:14 < BHSPitLappy> and the 3d button effect is schemed 08:15 < EvilDude> wow! 08:16 < EvilDude> that looks awesome 08:18 < EvilDude> hm I wanna write a simple module, any ideas :P? 08:18 -!- bettina [n=bettina@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:19 < EvilDude> btw who's working on the integration of hotdog? 08:19 < BHSPitLappy> josh 08:19 < courtc> josh 08:20 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: why don't you do to calc what felix did to calendar :) 08:20 < EvilDude> ah cool 08:20 < BHSPitLappy> or add functions to it 08:20 -!- bettina [n=bettina@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:20 < EvilDude> hmm maybe 08:21 < courtc> because the calulator is almost strange enough to be obfuscated? 08:21 < BHSPitLappy> hmm? 08:21 < EvilDude> haha 08:21 < courtc> completely random variable names, etc 08:21 < BHSPitLappy> never looked at it 08:22 < BHSPitLappy> port a ti-84 emu :D 08:22 < EvilDude> ok bad idea to ask you for suggestions :p 08:22 < courtc> no, wouldn't be usable.. 08:23 < courtc> EvilDude: card game engine? 08:23 < EvilDude> Ooo that sounds fun - I wanted to write a card game for 08:23 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: would be if you typed in all the commands 08:23 < EvilDude> what exactly should an engine do 08:24 < BHSPitLappy> do the source to the rockbox plugins do us any good? 08:24 < BHSPitLappy> they have some card stuff already 08:24 < courtc> deal with decks, stacks, pushing, popping, etc. 08:24 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: sometimes 08:24 < EvilDude> hm sounds interesting, I'll google and learn and hopefully make :p 08:25 < BHSPitLappy> http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/solitaire.c?view=markup 08:26 < BHSPitLappy> i was running it on my nano today, pretty cool 08:26 < BHSPitLappy> they had a lot of neat "screen saver" apps 08:26 < EvilDude> ... i'm confused 08:26 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-195-43.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:26 < EvilDude> rockbox 08:26 < EvilDude> on your nano? 08:26 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 08:26 < EvilDude> um expand ? 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> do you know what rockbox is? 08:27 < EvilDude> yeah 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> it works on ipods... 08:27 < EvilDude> but rockbox + iPod = my head spinning 08:27 < EvilDude> wtf 08:27 < EvilDude> since when 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> i dunno 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> a while 08:27 < EvilDude> courtc: any idea when that started? 08:27 < BHSPitLappy> but in the last 2 or 3 days, it became a hell of a lot more usable than say, a week ago when i built it 08:27 < courtc> About 2 1/2 months ago.. :/ 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> i got today's build and it was like...native ipod software 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> crazy 08:28 < EvilDude> yeah no wonder i didnt know :P Probably just about when I left =\ 08:28 < EvilDude> really :| ? 08:28 < EvilDude> whit 08:28 < EvilDude> what the hell =\ 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> do you have a nano? 08:28 < EvilDude> no 08:28 < EvilDude> a video 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> ok 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> ah 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> honorable that you develop for something you can't really run :P 08:29 < EvilDude> haha yeah 08:29 < EvilDude> desktop = awesome 08:29 < EvilDude> had a 3g 08:29 < courtc> I develop shiet for the color ipods constantly and I've never even used one. 08:29 < BHSPitLappy> btw, courtc, what was the music bar niceness commit from today? 08:29 < EvilDude> hm so they have a tendency to borrow a lot of ipl code? or learn from it? 08:29 < BHSPitLappy> i couldn't get to an mpdc playback screen to see 08:30 < BHSPitLappy> yeah. 08:30 < courtc> it was a slider change, didn't affect mpdc at all. 08:30 < BHSPitLappy> they even have the nerve to use ipodloader :P 08:30 < EvilDude> haha ah well 08:30 < EvilDude> at lesat its open source 08:30 < courtc> EvilDude: yea, alot of code. 08:30 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: the point is i never got to a place where i could see it... 08:30 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: just open wheel sensitivity or contrast. 08:30 < BHSPitLappy> stupid desktop mpd is acting up 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> oh 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> i was thinking the slider, like the volume thing 08:31 < EvilDude> hm so they want to make the boot loader load from a fat32 partition or somethin do they 08:31 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #iPodLinux 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> who? 08:31 < EvilDude> rockbox 08:31 < courtc> EvilDude: ipodloader2 does already. 08:31 < BHSPitLappy> rockbox runs from the fat partition 08:31 < EvilDude> ah that's good for them isn't it =\ 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> they have their own bootloader though 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> i said the wrong thing up there 08:32 < BVegan> Hi, folks, looking for beginner help on ipod linux. 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> i meant just make_fw 08:32 < EvilDude> so how much of rockbox works? 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: well, most parts except audio :D 08:32 < EvilDude> no audio output it seems 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> BVegan: shoot. 08:32 < EvilDude> wow =\ 08:32 < EvilDude> we got competition ;) 08:33 < courtc> EvilDude: not really, different goals. 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: more like a companion project that we might be able to gain from :D 08:33 < EvilDude> haha, courtc what do you mena? what is their goal? 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> look at that solitaire code, see what's good 08:33 < BVegan> Ok, let me organize my thoughts. I have a cold and have taken some horrible prescription remedy . . . brb, gotta look something up. 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> rockbox is about a superior music player 08:33 < BVegan> Ah, ok, viP. 08:33 < courtc> rockbox is about rockbox. 08:34 < courtc> ipodlinux is about endless possibilities. 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> rocking the little box that the headphones comes out of 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> although 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> ipl can't play bejeweled yet :/ 08:34 < EvilDude> hm I guess ipl has more possibilities 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> they have some cool modules 08:35 < BVegan> I installed the application from http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/ and all I had was vi, not viP. 08:35 < EvilDude> hm one thing - seems they have a lot of optimization to use the iram, does this also work for the iPod? 08:35 < EvilDude> and if so, why are we not using their code ;) 08:36 < BVegan> the text input didn't work. So I just did the update thing that reset the thing entirely (3G 10gig) 08:36 < EvilDude> and they don't have video playback like ipl do they :P ? 08:36 < courtc> EvilDude: we're working on using iram stuff for audio/video decoding. 08:36 < EvilDude> awesome :) 08:36 < EvilDude> That also means my 3g becomes useful! 08:36 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: #rockbox is a pretty active channel, you know 08:36 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: there's only rockbox for the color ipods :P 08:37 < EvilDude> yeah screw rockbox when I got ipl for it though ;) 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> EvilDude: what you should do is make a rockbox pz2 module :) 08:37 < EvilDude> haha 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> shouldn't be that hard to do 08:37 < EvilDude> anyway i gotta go to lunch :( 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> just port their desktop build 08:37 < BHSPitLappy> lunch? 2:37am? :P 08:37 < EvilDude> haha 2:07 PM here 08:37 < EvilDude> almost 12 hours apart ay :P 08:37 < EvilDude> anyway cya 08:37 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@61.1.188.57] has quit [] 08:37 < BVegan> BHSPitLappy, can you help? I'm basically a chemically induced zone case right now, but I really want to get this going. 08:38 < spazzium> ? 08:38 < courtc> bah, gotta sleep.. 'night 08:38 < BHSPitLappy> want to come to #ipodlinux.help? 08:38 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:39 < BVegan> Yes! I'll be right there - I just stick that in the join thingy? 08:39 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 08:39 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:39 < BVegan> ok, lemme figure this out - first time on Snak . . . 08:39 < BHSPitLappy> just type /join #ipodlinux.flood 08:40 < BVegan> .flood, or .help? I did flood and you're not there. 08:40 < BHSPitLappy> whoops! 08:40 < BHSPitLappy> lol 08:40 < BHSPitLappy> #ipodlinux.help 08:40 < BVegan> ok, I'll do it again :-) 08:40 < BHSPitLappy> it's late here too :P 08:41 < BVegan> Ok, I"m there now 08:41 < BVegan> oops, no I"m not. hang on. 08:41 < BHSPitLappy> yeah you are 08:41 < BHSPitLappy> oops 08:42 < courtc> `todo courtc 12 finish libitunesdb fixing 08:42 < iplbot> 25. @12 finish libitunesdb fixing 08:42 < BHSPitLappy> `todos for me 08:42 < BHSPitLappy> `todos for josh_ 08:42 < BHSPitLappy> hehehe 08:44 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-170-136.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:45 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- lBoxy [i=littleBo@213.195.203.138] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-170-136.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:47 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 08:48 -!- odat [n=emachine@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has joined #iPodLinux 08:48 < odat> hi everyone 08:49 < BHSPitMonkey> hi 08:49 < odat> i have a broken ipod that needs to be reformatted however i use linux and do not know how to do it any hints? 08:50 < BHSPitMonkey> err 08:50 < BHSPitMonkey> do you even use ipodlinux? 08:52 < odat> i ran into ipod linux searcing for a solution 08:52 < courtc> What gen? 08:53 < BHSPitMonkey> ipodlinux is a linux distribution FOR the ipod, FYI 08:53 < BHSPitMonkey> I don't know of a way to restore without windows/mac, maybe courtc does. 08:53 < odat> 20g click wheel 08:54 < courtc> oh, don't know the partition sizes off the top of my head. 08:54 < beangs> you can format it with linux, you just can't restore it. have you tried the ipod updater in WINE? 08:54 < courtc> actually now you can. 08:55 < odat> oh? 08:55 < courtc> Extract the firmware from the latest update and dd it to the ipods first partition, it'll flash itself. 08:55 < odat> dd it? 08:55 < courtc> man dd 08:55 < courtc> I really have to sleep now, good luck. 08:55 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: how do you extract it? I only know how to extract it from windows 08:55 < BHSPitMonkey> fine, nite nite 08:55 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 08:56 < odat> courtc, ok i not sure how to extract it 08:56 < odat> and i'm not familiar with man dd 08:58 < odat> courtc, still there? 08:58 < beangs> he was saying, run "man dd" in a console, to get the manual for it 09:00 < odat> well this ipod currently doesn't have any partitions 09:00 < beangs> none? did you try formatting it once already? 09:00 < odat> the drive itself needs to be wiped 09:00 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@179.165.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:00 < spazzium> why? 09:01 < odat> beangs, it doesn't mount at all 09:02 < beangs> it's not mount-able? not even with a mount command? 09:02 < odat> nope 09:02 < odat> what is the key combo to reset the ipod? 09:02 < beangs> menu and select 09:03 < BHSPitMonkey> odat: surely you can walk less than a football-field's length and find a windows pc to borrow 09:03 < beangs> if it isn't even MOUNT-able from linux, i'm sure windows will just throw up its hands and puke 09:03 < beangs> ... but why not try, right? 09:03 < BHSPitMonkey> huh? 09:04 < BHSPitMonkey> any ipod is recoverable in win/mac with the recover utility 09:04 < BHSPitMonkey> sometimes the use of a separate formatting utility like the HP one is necessary, but gets the job done 09:04 < beangs> well i'm saying, the computer doesn't even recognize it 09:04 < beangs> you can't recover something that doesn't exist 09:05 < beangs> ... so that's problem number one 09:05 < BHSPitMonkey> can anyone tell me if macs can access ext2 partitions? 09:05 < odat> when i try to use the ipod i get the little folder with the yield sign 09:05 < BHSPitMonkey> odat: reboot it into diskmode and do what you need to with it 09:06 < beangs> oh man. why didn't i think of that 09:06 < beangs> yes, do what the smarter man says 09:07 < odat> BHSPitMonkey, how do i do that? 09:07 < BHSPitMonkey> what kind of ipod again? 09:07 < beangs> 4g 09:07 < BHSPitMonkey> hold menu+action for a number of seconds 09:07 < odat> 20 g click wheel 09:07 < BHSPitMonkey> then as soon as it resets, hold action+play 09:08 < BHSPitMonkey> requires fast finger action. 09:09 < odat> thanks but still can't mount 09:09 < odat> :( 09:09 < BHSPitMonkey> is it in diskmode now? 09:09 < beangs> what're you doing to mount it 09:10 < BHSPitMonkey> and it probably shouldn't be able to mount, if there are not partitions 09:10 < odat> BHSPitMonkey, yea 09:10 < BHSPitMonkey> you mount filesystems, not disks 09:10 < odat> BHSPitMonkey, understood sorry its late 09:11 < odat> lol 09:12 < odat> well i'm not sure what to do 09:13 < BHSPitMonkey> you seriously need to use a win/mac on this one, i think.. 09:14 < odat> BHSPitMonkey, k 09:14 < beangs> odat: what do you get when you run a modprobe after it's connected in disk mode 09:14 < beangs> wait, not modprobe 09:14 < beangs> dammit, i'm embarrassing myself. i'm too tired. good night all 09:14 < BHSPitMonkey> mount? 09:14 -!- beangs [n=beangs@global-66-81-20-245.dialup.o1.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 09:14 < BHSPitMonkey> odat: i stand by what i said.. 09:22 < odat> can someone send me the firmware? 09:22 < BHSPitMonkey> *illegal*'d 09:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ! 09:22 < BHSPitMonkey> heh. 09:23 < odat> k 09:23 -!- odat [n=emachine@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:35 -!- BVegan [n=BVegan@ool-182e895a.dyn.optonline.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 09:43 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FF2AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:51 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 10:20 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:24 -!- linuxstb__ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:33 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:34 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-170-136.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:34 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-170-136.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:36 -!- linuxstb__ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:59 -!- ErUs|afk [n=tom@ACCB5131.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:03 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FF2AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 11:05 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:20 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 11:35 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 11:39 -!- Sound-Mi1d is now known as Sound-Mind 11:45 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has joined #iPodLinux 11:45 < Alth> And...I'm back. 11:45 * Alth yawns 11:47 < hyarion> Yay! 11:47 < hyarion> :) 11:52 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:55 -!- ronbfrown [i=ronnybfr@bzq-82-81-102-8.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:55 < ronbfrown> hi all 11:56 < ronbfrown> anyone here? 11:56 < hyarion> yes, I'm here :) 11:57 < ronbfrown> hey how are you\ 11:57 < j0k3r> cold 11:57 < ronbfrown> would you have any update as to the development of compression of videos on nano? 11:57 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:57 < hyarion> nope 11:58 < hyarion> do you? 11:58 < ronbfrown> no :( 11:58 < hyarion> :/ 11:58 < ronbfrown> is it being worked on at all? 11:58 < hyarion> maybe 11:59 < ronbfrown> is there a build version of podzilla 2 that's ready to use? 11:59 < hyarion> I think you need to compile it your self 11:59 < hyarion> it's not that hard though 12:02 -!- ronbfrown [i=ronnybfr@bzq-82-81-102-8.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 12:03 < Alth> darn it. Back later. 12:03 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has quit ["I wonder if I paid my internet bill this mo...*User Disconnected*"] 12:20 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 12:23 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:32 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 12:32 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:40 -!- Paul_The_Nerd [n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:41 < Paul_The_Nerd> Hello 12:42 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #iPodLinux 12:43 < hyarion> Paul_The_Nerd: g'day 12:44 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:52 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:12 -!- CHiKo [i=myself@bzq-82-81-205-152.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:21 -!- Gnub [n=jaymz@ALICE-WHACKER.MIT.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 13:24 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:26 -!- CHiKo [i=myself@bzq-82-81-205-152.cablep.bezeqint.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:37 -!- Paul_The_Nerd [n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:41 -!- ramses5th [n=benzyl@c130151.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["leaving"] 13:47 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:01 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:02 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:14 * josh_ -> age++; 14:22 < hyarion> happy birthday! 14:22 < hyarion> wait 14:22 < hyarion> shouldn't that be ++age 14:25 -!- Tory [n=scuzz@host86-132-91-123.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:33 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:33 -!- Tory [n=scuzz@host86-132-91-123.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:35 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c130151.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:53 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:53 -!- boissonn [i=boissonn@tilhi.cs.tut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 14:55 -!- boissonn is now known as kimo 14:56 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:57 < kimo> is there a standalone mp3player btw? 14:58 < preglow> podzilla? 15:05 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 15:06 < kimo> which is not standalone 15:07 < kimo> and the player is temporary there anyway 15:08 < Lex> when i update my ipod with ipod updater, will my files disappear from the hd? 15:10 < preglow> sure 15:10 < preglow> ahh, update 15:10 < preglow> no, that should work 15:10 < preglow> but not certain 15:19 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-160-124.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 15:34 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:37 < Lex> and why i need to connect my ipod into a power source for the update 15:37 < josh_> Lex: because it reflashes 15:37 < josh_> and the flash needs juice 15:37 < Lex> ;O 15:38 < Lex> Version 1.2.1 15:38 < Lex> what's new in this 15:38 < Lex> i had some bugs in the old version, i can't sleep it everytime 15:38 < BleuLlama> read the updater. there's change lists in there 15:39 < Lex> yeah, but first i want to install ipl 15:39 < Lex> my files didn't disappear :O 15:41 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/podzilla2/core/ipod.c: Don't use _IOR and _IOW things if not on iPod - fails under cygwin. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/708) 15:46 -!- cmf [n=lou@adsl-83-100-233-67.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 < Lex> why my matrix is red again :( 15:47 < Lex> i used the newest nightly kernel 15:47 < Lex> 4g installer 15:47 < Lex> i replaced the kernel in the package with the newest 15:48 < Lex> 2.4.24-ipod2 #306 mon jan 16 00:06:18 PST 2006 15:48 < cmf> hi, i'm just finishing up my installation of teh nightlies onto my iPod photo. i'm installing from Linux. however one command in the wiki confuses me, "ln -s ../mnt/iPod_Control /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control" this is so i can make the iTunesDB parser work. However what confuses me is what i'm trying to make the symlink to and from what dir should i do this? 15:48 -!- Gnub [n=jaymz@ALICE-WHACKER.MIT.EDU] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:48 < cmf> because the folder /mnt/iPod_Contol already exists but no itunesdb is parsed 15:48 -!- Gnub [i=debian-t@tor/session/x-5981464ae95db4ea] has joined #ipodlinux 15:49 < cmf> should i chroot into the linux install dir and do the symlinking that way? 15:49 < courtc> you can't 15:49 < cmf> because teh bins are compilled for ARM? 15:50 < courtc> cd /mnt/ipod; ln -s mnt/iPod_Control iPod_Control 15:50 < courtc> yep 15:50 < cmf> okies, thanks 15:50 < cmf> seems the command is teh wrong way around in the wiki then? 15:50 < kimo> hmm im having trouble compiling ttk on windows 15:51 < courtc> Which page? 15:51 < kimo> menu.c 15:51 < cmf> courtc: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux just near the bottom 15:52 < cmf> in the finishing up section 15:53 < kimo> menu.c: In function `ttk_menu_frame': 15:53 < kimo> menu.c:447: parse error before `*' 15:53 < kimo> any idea courtc? 15:54 < kimo> (and few other error) 15:54 < cmf> actually reading it again, it just seems to be worded badly, maybe a bit more descriptive? 15:54 < courtc> fixed.. 15:55 < courtc> kimo: which toolchain? 15:57 < kimo> compiler version 2.95.3 15:57 < Lex> yeah 15:57 < Lex> when i go to my music, ipl freezes 15:57 < courtc> Lex: remove podcasts 15:57 < Lex> hmm yea 15:57 -!- cmf [n=lou@adsl-83-100-233-67.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:58 < Lex> i thought that it would be the problem 15:58 < Lex> but why my matrix is red then 15:58 < Lex> should be green? :) 15:58 < courtc> no clue why 15:59 < courtc> kimo: you need a 3.4.3 toolchain, which I'm not even sure is released yet. 15:59 < courtc> talk to josh_ 15:59 < Lex> hmm 15:59 < Lex> but i have the newest kernel and podzilla 15:59 < Lex> so it shouldn't be red? :o 16:00 < courtc> Lex, what color are the blocks in bluecube(tetris) 16:00 < Lex> normal 16:00 < Lex> i guess 16:00 < Lex> yellow, red 16:00 < Lex> purple 16:00 < Lex> white.. :o 16:01 < Lex> green and so on 16:01 < courtc> hmm.. 16:01 < courtc> strange. 16:02 < Lex> and cube is only dark colors 16:02 < kimo> ok courtc i think Its there 16:03 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 < courtc> kimo: yea, http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/ipl/arm-uclinux-tools-cygwin-20060116.tar.bz2 16:03 < kimo> downloading :) 16:03 < kimo> I was fooled by the name of the compiler in the newer one 16:03 < Lex> what's the program for "hacking" apple os images 16:04 < kimo> I though it was a compiler for linux so I just renamed it "right" in the makefile 16:05 < Lex> http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/73/90/ 16:05 < Lex> http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/190/90/ wow 16:07 -!- jaymz_ [n=jaymz@tor/session/x-554c701f31e4a986] has joined #ipodlinux 16:07 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@179.165.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 16:11 < Lex> :S 16:11 < Lex> music freezes, i don't have podcasts anymore 16:12 -!- kashi_ [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 -!- jaymz_ [n=jaymz@tor/session/x-554c701f31e4a986] has quit [Client Quit] 16:12 < Lex> and idoom has colors 16:14 -!- kashi_ [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 16:15 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 16:18 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [n=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18 -!- BHSPitLappy2 [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:22 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488BA4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:23 -!- JimmySputnik [n=apw2@mork.apw.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:24 < JimmySputnik> Hi all, has anyone had problems with playback from mpd coming out at the wrong sample rate? It seems that the first track I play is always super super slow (to the point where you can't even recognize it any more.) 16:25 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:25 < JimmySputnik> for context: I'm not using pz2, I'm hacking on a separate app 16:25 < BleuLlama> maybe it's someone else's ipod... that's why you can't recognize it 16:25 < BleuLlama> try putting more recognizable music on it 16:25 < BleuLlama> problem solved. next? 16:26 < JimmySputnik> Thanks for the snarky comments Bleu. :) No, it's definitely a sample rate problem, as I'm getting high frequency squeal from near the nyquist cutoff. 16:26 < BleuLlama> ooh. "snarky". nice vocab. :D 16:27 * BleuLlama has no helpful suggestions. sorry. :( 16:27 < BleuLlama> is all music doing it, or just a few songs? 16:28 < JimmySputnik> So far I have only observed it on the first track in a playlist of ten tracks or less. 16:28 < BleuLlama> weird. 16:28 < JimmySputnik> for the moment I'm padding my playlist with a 1 second silent track 16:28 * BleuLlama just curious. i can't actually help with the problem. i don't play music in linux. :( 16:28 < BleuLlama> sounds like just something isn't getting initialized properly or somesuch 16:28 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-138-89-94-49.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:28 < JimmySputnik> I'm wondering if mpd isn't setting the sample rate on the dsp properly at start 16:29 < JimmySputnik> oh well, I figured it was worth asking about 16:29 < Lex> but, i don't have any podcasts in my ipod, so why does pz crash then? :( 16:29 < BleuLlama> JimmySputnik: ask again later. there are people that are usually here who work with mpd, but they seem to be out right now 16:30 < coob> JimmySputnik: yes, it's a bug. 16:30 < coob> with the mp3 playing stuff 16:31 < coob> which is dodgy as fuck 16:31 < coob> i should know, i wrote it :/ 16:31 < coob> mpd's not to blame, my dodgy hack to it is 16:31 < Lex> coob: any ideas why my cube is almost black and matrix is red? 16:31 < Lex> but idoom works 16:31 < coob> i'll get round to sorting it eventually, don't really have much time to code atm 16:31 < coob> Lex, use a more recent kernel. 16:31 < BleuLlama> lex: sounds like you have an old kernel or podzilla or something 16:31 < Lex> coob: i use the newest nightly 16:32 < Lex> *nightlies 16:32 < Lex> pz and kernel are nightlies 16:32 < coob> whatapple firmware? 16:32 < Lex> 1.2.1 16:32 < ves> could anybody school me on pz2 dependencies? sdl, sdl-image, right? 16:32 < coob> ah 16:32 < Lex> didn't work even with a 1.2.0 :o 16:32 < coob> i don't think any devs are using 1.2.1 yet, i'll take a look tonight 16:32 < coob> that's odd 16:32 < Lex> yea 16:32 < Lex> worked earlier 16:32 < Lex> but now it doesn't work 16:33 < coob> should work with 1.2.0 16:33 < Lex> yeah it worked, but not anymore :o 16:33 < Lex> then i updated to 1.2.1 16:34 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 16:35 < JimmySputnik> coob: thanks. I'm glad it's a known problem. 16:36 < coob> i'm not sure what causes it, maybe i'm not setting something in the output buffer 16:36 < coob> i think the output buffering needs a rewrite for the ipod anyway... 16:36 < Lex> :o 16:37 < Lex> and music freezes ipl too 16:37 < Lex> i don't have any podcasts in my ipod right now 16:37 < coob> what gen ipod are you on 16:37 < Lex> color one 16:37 < coob> sorry, revision. 16:38 < Lex> 4G :p 16:38 < Lex> oh ye 16:38 < coob> no. 16:38 < Lex> wait 16:38 < Lex> its the 16:38 < Lex> something 04 :) 16:38 < coob> 0x060004 or something 16:38 < Lex> color one 16:38 < coob> ok 16:38 < Lex> that 16:38 < Lex> hah, there is some podcasts around there 16:38 < Lex> but itunes can't recognize them 16:39 < Lex> CNN Special Programming 16:45 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:50 -!- ErUs|afk [n=tom@ACBDED3E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:52 < ves> Hmm, sorted. libttf-dev :/ 16:54 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 16:56 < Lex> YEAH 16:56 < Lex> music works on ipl now 16:57 -!- ErUs|afk is now known as erus 16:59 < kimo> lex, are you using pz2+ 16:59 < kimo> ? 16:59 < Lex> kimo: not yet 17:00 < Lex> i want to try it 17:00 < Lex> but i can't find a wiki howto install it 17:00 < kimo> you have to compile it 17:00 < Lex> but i don't want to ;o 17:00 < Lex> i'm on windows 17:00 < kimo> doesnt matter 17:00 < Lex> and i don't want to boot my old computer 17:00 < Lex> and cygwin sucks 17:00 < Lex> and i don't want to go to gentoo :D 17:01 < kimo> cygwin doesnt especially suck 17:01 < kimo> :P 17:01 < Lex> it does :) 17:01 < Lex> wtf 17:01 < Lex> malloc failed 17:01 < Lex> again 17:02 < Lex> only with my best music ;O 17:02 < kimo> its because the file is too big 17:02 < kimo> or has a high bitrate 17:02 < Lex> :( 17:02 < kimo> try 3 min mp3 ;D they all work 17:02 < Lex> :P 17:02 < Lex> but can you compile pz2 for me, please? :p 17:03 < Lex> does mpd work with pz2? 17:05 < courtc> it does, but not fast enough... 17:05 < Lex> but can someone compile pz2 for me 17:06 < Lex> i can do it in gentoo, but.. booting back into windows takes so long, thanks soundcard + windows.. 17:06 < courtc> `nightlies 17:06 < iplbot> nightlies are at http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds . recent builds for podzilla 2 are at http://josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds/ . [from courtc] 17:06 < Lex> oh yeah 17:06 < Lex> josh made some nightlies, now i remember 17:07 < Lex> i just replace my /bin/podzilla with that one? 17:07 < kimo> courtc anyone has made a simple standalone mp3 player ;)? 17:09 < courtc> mpd 17:10 < Lex> but how i install pz2 on windows 17:10 < Lex> i need to do a start-script, but like what :o 17:10 < courtc> podzilla used to use the standalone IPP player as well.. 17:10 < Lex> mv podzilla2 /bin/podzilla && chmod +x /bin/podzilla? 17:11 -!- dukat_ [i=dukat@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de] has quit ["leaving"] 17:12 < Lex> let's try now 17:12 < Lex> no, modules and others first 17:12 < ves> Anyone tell me what "FAT: Did not find valid FSINFO signature." means? I'm trying to install original backups, it worked just will no longer mount. 17:14 < kimo> courtc: thanks, I though mpd was a sound interface for pz2 17:14 < kimo> im a bit confused with all this new stuff 17:15 < Lex> where i need to place the modules 17:18 < Lex> /usr/lib no such file or directory :O 17:19 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488BA4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 17:22 < Lex> hey, help.. :< 17:22 < ves> me too :/ 17:22 < kimo> arg the new toolchain put files a bit in the wrong place 17:23 < Lex> where i need to place the modules 17:26 < Lex> Copy the pods or module folders into iPod/usr/lib. 17:26 < Lex> ahh 17:26 < kimo> courtc: sitll problems building ttk with new toolchain 17:26 < kimo> *still 17:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 -!- BusteD [n=xtreme@80.232.187.142] has joined #iPodLinux 17:33 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 17:36 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 17:39 -!- djaconil [n=jocelyn@vol75-10-82-244-224-188.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:48 < kimo> is the toolchain corrupted? 17:51 -!- odat [n=ronniew@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:51 < odat> hi everyone 17:52 < odat> i have an ipod i just updated and its asking for me to plug it into the wall so it can reflash but i don't have the plug 17:52 < odat> is there anyway to do it? 17:53 -!- j0k3r [n=UNIX@23.15.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 17:53 < odat> ? 17:56 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:56 < odat> anyone here? 17:58 -!- odat [n=ronniew@ip106.186.235.64.susc.suscom.net] has quit [] 18:01 < Lex> how i can listen to music in pz2? :o 18:01 < Lex> do i need mpd 18:12 < jedix> I don't know about pz2, sorry. 18:18 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FE1B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:21 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:23 < Lex> now, podzilla doesn't start 18:23 < Lex> only some mpd lines.. 18:26 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c130151.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:27 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-231-228.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #iPodLinux 18:27 -!- intim [n=benzyl@c130151.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:38 < Lex> yeah 18:39 < Lex> mpd works now 18:39 < Lex> but when i try to play music, it freezes 18:39 < kimo> :o 18:39 < kimo> so you did boot on linux 18:39 < kimo> afterall 18:39 < Lex> yea 18:39 < Lex> it takes a long time before it starts podzilla 18:39 < Lex> and pz2 says that it can't load module libsxx or something, out of memory 18:41 < kimo> I think Ill do faster my own podzilla 3 than I can have it building on cygwin 18:42 < kimo> or lets not blame cygwin :P 18:43 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-160-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:52 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-133-176.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:53 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:05 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8794.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 19:05 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8794.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 19:06 < BetaBoy> hi i have a question 19:06 < BetaBoy> is there any program to make avi smaler ? 19:07 < frijole> that would be compression 19:07 < frijole> which iPod linux does not do 19:07 < frijole> its raw video 19:08 < fxb> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module/calendar 19:08 < fxb> :) 19:09 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:18 -!- birdfish [n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:21 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:21 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 19:22 -!- IcyStorM2 [n=aknemyr@h143n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:27 < JimmySputnik> Is there any documentation on rebuilding busybox for ipodlinux? 19:28 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:31 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:41 -!- semipaul [n=paul_sem@p5490296B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-138-89-94-49.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 19:52 -!- ankit_ [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 < ankit_> what's "stupid signedness crap" (the textinput + terminal module) 19:55 < IcyStorM2> I just want to ask a question.. 19:55 -!- IcyStorM2 is now known as IcyStorM 19:56 < IcyStorM> But I dont wanna ask if people say I'm just asking same questions as everybody else.. But I want a answer 19:56 < ankit_> #ipodlinux.help 19:56 < ankit_> thats for you 19:56 < IcyStorM> I dont need help 19:56 < IcyStorM> I wanna ask a question.. I know how to get iPL working thats not the problem.. I just wanna work how the progress goes on with the 5G 19:58 -!- IcyStorM [n=aknemyr@h143n4c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:59 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h60n8c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h245n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 -!- BusteD [n=xtreme@80.232.187.142] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 20:09 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-73-109.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 < kimo> I dont like the newest toolchain:( 20:12 < kimo> my consol app doesnt work with it 20:12 < kimo> (c++) 20:12 < kimo> gcc might work havent tried 20:14 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < josh_> kimo: what goes wrong? 20:36 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 -!- ankit_ [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:41 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 < kimo> well even the basic helloworld doesnt draw anything (but the lllllrrrrrrrm etc from input) and doesnt close the software 20:44 < kimo> but with the older toolchain helloworld works perfectly 20:45 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:05 -!- elinenbe [i=trilluse@207-237-225-224.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 -!- disident [n=disident@AStrasbourg-156-1-73-109.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:12 -!- rmh3093 [n=rmh3093@cpe-66-67-170-142.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 -!- varial [n=python24@cpc1-ipsw2-3-1-cust129.colc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:14 < varial> has any1 got ipodlinux workin on a 2gb nano and they run windows? 21:16 -!- BusteD [n=xtreme@80.232.187.142] has joined #ipodlinux 21:18 -!- varial [n=python24@cpc1-ipsw2-3-1-cust129.colc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 21:22 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:23 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 21:31 < imphasing> If you own a nano, it's a fair bet you run windows.. 21:31 < imphasing> It's the ipod of the braying masses. 21:31 < BetaBoy> yea i do 21:32 < imphasing> :D 21:32 < BetaBoy> virial : id do 21:32 < BetaBoy> or lets say i have 21:39 -!- JoyFM [n=johannes@dslc-213-023-160-124.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["I'm offline now!"] 21:47 < BHSPitMonkey_> imphasing: luckily i don't run windows...my computer does 21:47 < BHSPitMonkey_> i don't have enough coats to survive the freezes :D 21:53 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:53 -!- beangs [n=beangs@global-66-81-18-173.dialup.o1.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h245n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:58 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-011-082.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:00 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@dslb-084-056-014-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 -!- Alth [n=Althalus@202.61.152.111] has joined #ipodlinux 22:10 < Alth> :) 22:14 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@h244.110.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:15 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@h244.110.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:21 -!- Luke__ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- Luke__ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Client Quit] 22:21 < Alth> Quiet. 22:22 -!- NotWorkSafe [n=factory@gw-nat.tvi.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 < NotWorkSafe> hey...quick question. I installed IPL on my photo and it worked fine. I then changed the apple firmware theme with ipod wizard, and now I can't boot into linux. is there a quick way to fix this? (i.e. not having to restore my backup firmware and reinstall ipl) 22:24 < Alth> (good luck, mate, I think all the gurus are asleep still :) ) 22:24 < beangs> yeah just reinstall ipod-linux 22:24 < NotWorkSafe> ah well 22:24 < beangs> i did that too 22:25 < NotWorkSafe> cool. when i restore my backup will i have to redo the theme? 22:25 < beangs> who said anything about restoring a backup 22:25 < NotWorkSafe> is there a way to reinstall without doing that? 22:26 < beangs> just re-run the installer 22:26 < NotWorkSafe> oh nvm. i'm an idiot 22:26 < NotWorkSafe> lol 22:26 < Alth> Join the club, NWS :) 22:26 < beangs> yeah my iq is 56 at best 22:26 < NotWorkSafe> i'm glad i finally got a build that worked 22:26 < NotWorkSafe> other than my ff3 everything works perfectly 22:27 < beangs> i need a color ipod... doom on greyscale just doesn't look quite right 22:27 < beangs> heh 22:27 < Alth> I wish I had a photo :( 22:27 < Alth> Yeah beangs, I know whatcha mean. 22:27 < BHSPitLappy2> NotWorkSafe: so yeah, you completely replaced your linux partition... 22:27 < BHSPitLappy2> nice... 22:28 -!- BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy 22:28 < Alth> BHSPitLappy mate! 22:28 < NotWorkSafe> lol...and i wish i had a video 22:28 < NotWorkSafe> bought mine right before the videos were announced 22:28 < BHSPitLappy> NotWorkSafe: you run linux? 22:28 < Alth> I don't care about the video...but colour would be nice. 22:28 < NotWorkSafe> i do 22:29 -!- BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey 22:29 < Alth> I bought my Mini first gen a week before they brough in the second gens :( 22:29 < NotWorkSafe> i want one for the space...60gb would be nice. i'm using 20 right now 22:29 < Alth> I have /4/ gig... I have /30/ gig of music. 22:29 < beangs> yeah and i got my 4g about 2 weeks before they announced the photo 22:29 < Alth> This is a problem. 22:30 < NotWorkSafe> lol...i only have like...12gb music 22:30 < beangs> i have 30-ish as well 22:30 < Alth> You fail :) 22:30 < beangs> a 20gb ipod makes it a bit easier, but still 22:30 < NotWorkSafe> the video would be nice...i fly alot so it'd be nice to have something to do 22:30 < BHSPitLappy> NotWorkSafe: what you're supposed to do is export the firmware from ipodwizard 22:31 < NotWorkSafe> live and learn, eh? 22:31 < BHSPitLappy> then make_fw -o apple_os_themed.bin -e 0 IDR_FIRMWAREwhatever 22:31 < BHSPitLappy> (just like the firmware extraction step from normal installation) 22:31 < BHSPitLappy> then you can make_fw the new apple_os into your firmware 22:31 < BusteD> fuck that.. im tryin to install that fuckin linux to my 2gb nano for like 10th time... it never works... 22:32 < BHSPitLappy> BusteD: windows user? 22:32 < BusteD> yes 22:32 < BleuLlama> heh 22:32 < BHSPitLappy> BleuLlama: the bot listens to you here, right? 22:32 < BusteD> im really tires of that 22:32 < BleuLlama> try it from linux. you'll get it first try 22:32 < BHSPitLappy> i would have brought up the `shit from iplbot... 22:32 < BleuLlama> BHSPitLappy: sure. what's up? 22:32 < NotWorkSafe> i just used this on my winbox: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5281 22:33 < NotWorkSafe> worked perfectly same time 22:33 < BusteD> BleuLlama will i be able to use ipod in windows after installing from linux ? 22:33 < BHSPitLappy> yup 22:33 < BleuLlama> sure. go read the forums. people over there have done it 22:33 < BHSPitLappy> windows will have no clue... 22:33 -!- JimmySputnik [n=apw2@mork.apw.net] has quit ["I'm out.. thanks folks"] 22:33 < BleuLlama> it's "unsupported" so don't expect any help from in here about it though 22:34 < BetaBoy> :) idd 22:34 < BusteD> ok.. the i'll have to borrow linux cd :) 22:34 < beangs> go grab knoppix 22:34 < NotWorkSafe> aye...if you're only doing it once knoppix would be the best way 22:35 < BHSPitLappy> or slax! 22:35 < BHSPitLappy> gotta love kde on a minicd... heh heh 22:35 < BusteD> what are talking about.. what is that ? 22:35 < BusteD> :) 22:35 < dell500> anyone here know how to mount the ipod as no readonly? 22:35 < dell500> no = not 22:35 < Alth> Slax pwns. :) 22:35 < BHSPitLappy> mount -rw 22:35 < BHSPitLappy> instead of mount -ro 22:35 < NotWorkSafe> BusteD: http://www.knoppix.net/get.php 22:36 < BHSPitLappy> slax.linux-live.org <--off the top of my head... 22:36 * Alth checks for slax updates. 22:36 < BHSPitLappy> there's a 5.0.7 beta... 22:36 < Alth> Neat :D 22:36 * BHSPitLappy would never use a beta os :D 22:37 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/podzilla2/core/pz.h: Don't do the big fat locale warning. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/709) 22:37 < BHSPitLappy> except for iPL of course! <3 <3 22:37 < Alth> Heh. 22:38 -!- beangs [n=beangs@global-66-81-18-173.dialup.o1.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:39 -!- beangs [n=beangs@global-66-81-18-173.dialup.o1.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 -!- BHSPitMonkey [i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:40 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-65-69-154-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:41 -!- erus is now known as erus` 22:41 < BusteD> BHSPitLappy am i able to install linux on my ipod from slax live cd? 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> sure 22:41 < BHSPitLappy> slax is, if anything, overkill 22:42 < BHSPitLappy> depending on the edition 22:42 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACBDED3E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 22:42 -!- erus` [n=tom@ACBDED3E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:42 -!- erus` is now known as TomoBoto 22:43 -!- TomoBoto is now known as erus` 22:44 < courtc> volunteers for testing a podzilla built with a patched libitunesdb, you'll need a iTunesDB with podcasts, one that doesn't normally work with podzilla 22:44 < courtc> s/,/?/ 22:44 < BHSPitLappy> i already did it, didn't i? 22:44 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:44 < BHSPitLappy> err 22:44 < BHSPitLappy> no 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> misread 22:45 < BHSPitLappy> let me check that pz doesn't work now 22:45 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-69-69-127-58.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:46 < BHSPitLappy> oh yeah, it's "teh brokt" all right 22:46 < BHSPitLappy> courtc: aye 22:47 -!- beangs [n=beangs@global-66-81-18-173.dialup.o1.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:47 -!- NotWorkSafe [n=factory@gw-nat.tvi.edu] has quit [] 22:47 < courtc> josh was kind enough to build it for me: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/podzilla-podcasts.gz 22:48 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> because josh is a saint 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> it's a pz0, correct? 22:48 < josh_> yep, pz0 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> :) 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> btw, you said to remind you about my loader2 plea today 22:49 < josh_> ah yes. 22:49 < kimo> any other way for donation than paypal ? 22:50 < kimo> (like neteller or pokerstars :))? 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> ack 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> The requested URL /~oremanj/t/podzilla-podcasts.gz was not found on this server. 22:52 < josh_> oop 22:52 < josh_> try again 22:52 < courtc> poo 22:53 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/ipl/tools/podzilla % cat podzilla | gzip -9 > ~/html/t/podzilla-podcasts.pz 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 22:53 < josh_> note the extension... 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> suh-weet 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> damn firefox 22:54 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:54 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-69-69-127-58.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:55 * Alth yawns 22:56 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:56 < BHSPitMonkey> booting... 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: it had the same reaction to the Playlists menu as before... 22:58 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:59 < courtc> umm..? 22:59 < BHSPitMonkey> header visible, everything beneath was a #FFFFFF wonderland... 22:59 < BHSPitMonkey> when i tried to browse Playlists 22:59 < courtc> Well, playlists have always been buggy. 23:00 < courtc> I think that's something else... 23:00 < BHSPitMonkey> k 23:00 < BHSPitMonkey> which one should i try then 23:01 < courtc> I'm more interested in Artists, Albums, etc. 23:01 * BHSPitMonkey reboots it... 23:01 < BHSPitMonkey> k 23:01 < BHSPitMonkey> tried Artists 23:01 < BHSPitMonkey> same 23:01 < BHSPitMonkey> ___Music__[_} 23:01 < BHSPitMonkey> *white!* 23:02 < BHSPitMonkey> *white!* 23:02 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 23:02 < BHSPitMonkey> notice on all of them, the header didn't change from "Music"...could be noteworthy... 23:03 < courtc> josh_: sure you patched and recompiled that libitunesdb? the Makefile doesn't put the lib in the appropriate place... 23:03 < josh_> ah 23:03 < BHSPitMonkey> heh... 23:04 * BHSPitMonkey waits in diskmode... 23:04 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 < josh_> ok, redownload it. 23:05 < BHSPitMonkey> you and your fast-ass builds... 23:05 * BHSPitMonkey read josh's hardware page last night... 23:05 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:06 < BHSPitMonkey> i should name my box Selenium... 23:06 < josh_> hah, why's that? 23:06 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 23:06 < josh_> most of my names have some sort of meaning behind them 23:06 < BHSPitMonkey> because that's an element i had to make a poster on, last year in chemistry 23:06 < BHSPitMonkey> yes, i know... 23:07 < josh_> e.g. the Windows boxes are all alkali metals, because they're shiny and tend to blow up :-) 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> fluorine and chlorine as twin vm's.. 23:07 < josh_> yeah 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> potassium? :P 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> sodium is real fun 23:07 < josh_> rubidium and cesium so far 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> i know 23:07 < josh_> (most reactive) 23:07 < josh_> have you seen the "sodium party" page? 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> like i said... "/me read josh's hardware page" 23:07 < BHSPitMonkey> no 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> you still star? 23:08 < josh_> nope, life. 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> outdated page then 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> iPL > web authoring? 23:08 < josh_> http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/ 23:08 < josh_> yep 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 23:08 < BHSPitMonkey> i noticed the iPL work wasn't too publicized 23:08 < josh_> it's just been a while since I updated it 23:09 < josh_> the age is also out of date :-) 23:09 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-71-48-107-100.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 -!- joecool_ is now known as joecool 23:09 < BHSPitMonkey> we watched a video in like 8th grade of people throwing sodium chunks into a pond... 23:10 < BetaBoy> hi josh_ 23:10 < josh_> ^ several videos of people releasing very BIG chunks of sodium into a pond 23:10 < josh_> hi BetaBoy 23:10 < BetaBoy> u know how to comprime avi's in virtual Dub? 23:11 < josh_> nope 23:11 < BHSPitMonkey> never heard that word... that's a new one 23:11 < BetaBoy> i meas mak smaler 23:11 < BHSPitMonkey> wow 23:11 < BetaBoy> sorry im from belgium 23:11 < BHSPitMonkey> k 23:11 < BHSPitMonkey> np 23:11 < BetaBoy> im belgium it is comprimeren ( means make it smaler ) 23:12 < BHSPitMonkey> well, not a lot of us here are experts on windows software :P 23:12 < BetaBoy> ok 23:12 < BetaBoy> i didnt got the motivation to start whit linux atm 23:13 < BHSPitMonkey> k, booting the new podzilla 23:13 < BetaBoy> what is the new podzilla ? 23:13 < BetaBoy> i mean whare to get it ? 23:13 < BHSPitMonkey> nothing, just testing a build 23:14 < BetaBoy> kk 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> "Beta" testing :P 23:14 < BetaBoy> wasnt thare a 2d version of podzilla ? 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> there is a podzilla 2 23:14 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: same outcome 23:14 < BetaBoy> mm whare do dl it ? 23:15 < BHSPitMonkey> ask josh where his nightlys are 23:15 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: is there an iplbot entry that gives your pz2 nightly's url? 23:15 < BetaBoy> dam sit wont work :/ 23:15 < josh_> `pz2 nightlies is http://www.josh.sys-techs.com/svnbuilds 23:15 < ves> Silly question: iDoom compatible with pz2? 23:15 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 23:15 -!- Bi_noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:15 < BHSPitMonkey> ves: pretty much, since you can't execute anything 23:16 < ves> so it's incompatible :) 23:16 < ves> I just wondered with the hang trying to run it 23:16 * Alth yawns 23:17 < fxb> night... bye 23:17 -!- fxb [n=fxb@p548FE1B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 23:17 -!- BetaBoy [n=epox_tw@ip-213-49-231-228.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 23:18 < BHSPitLappy> ves: do what i do... boot to pz0 23:18 < ves> :) 23:20 < courtc> same outcome!! bullshit! 23:21 < BHSPitLappy> lol 23:21 < BHSPitLappy> whiteness 23:21 < courtc> Works here... :/ 23:31 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:31 < BHSPitLappy> what device? 23:31 < BHSPitLappy> i might not have updated well... kde+firefox=confusion and bad file management 23:32 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3229E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 23:32 -!- Sebo [n=sebastia@p54A3229E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:36 < kimo> how do I access the root folder underwindows (all I can see is "hp") 23:36 < courtc> You don't 23:36 < kimo> ok 23:36 < kimo> then I did something wrong trying to install pz2 23:37 < kimo> still pz1 booting 23:39 < BHSPitLappy> umm... 23:39 < BHSPitLappy> how'd you install 23:40 < kimo> make install DESTDIR=I: IPOD=1 23:41 < BHSPitLappy> that works from windows? 23:41 < BHSPitLappy> and also, I: isn't where you install to... 23:41 < BHSPitLappy> you can't do it from windows 23:41 < kimo> I guessed so 23:42 < kimo> because its on the higher level 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> I: is the big music partition 23:42 < kimo> yes 23:42 < kimo> "hp" 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> you want to install to the linux partition 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> which win can't read at all 23:42 < BHSPitLappy> you can whip up a start file though 23:42 < kimo> :) im screwed now ;) 23:42 < kimo> ok 23:43 < kimo> which means ? 23:43 < kimo> a script which will copy the files to the right partition ? 23:44 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:44 < BHSPitLappy> look at ipodlinux.org/updating_podzilla 23:44 < BHSPitLappy> where it tells you to make a start file for windows 23:45 < BHSPitLappy> yours won't look like that, but that page gives you the idea 23:45 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: are you using the same iTunesDB file as the one you gave me? 23:45 < BHSPitLappy> yup 23:45 < BHSPitLappy> i'll just erase every copy i have and re download 23:46 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:48 < kimo> ok give me a quick tip how to move directories and their subdirectories 23:49 < kimo> :) 23:49 < BHSPitMonkey> look at the building_podzilla page, at the bottom 23:50 < kimo> yeah but I dont trust it will work 23:50 < BHSPitMonkey> that's not the start file exactly... 23:50 < BHSPitMonkey> that's what you'd type in a pc 23:50 < kimo> yes thats ive done 23:50 < BHSPitMonkey> but it shows you what needs to be done 23:50 < kimo> now the files are on the ipod 23:50 < BHSPitMonkey> just get linux, dude :P 23:51 < kimo> but now im making the start file 23:51 < BHSPitMonkey> kimo: they're not where they need to be... 23:51 < kimo> I think that would take a bit longer ;) 23:51 < kimo> yes now I need to make the start file to move them at the right place right? 23:51 < BHSPitMonkey> kimo: but every change in the future would take a LOT shorter :P 23:51 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm 23:51 < kimo> indeed :( 23:52 < kimo> maybe ill just by a mac 23:55 -!- beang1 [n=beangs@global-66-81-24-75.dialup.o1.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:57 < kimo> mv /hp/usr/* /usr will this also move directories to destination? 23:58 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Wed Jan 18 00:00:01 2006