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00:40 < ekim12> hey
00:40 < ekim12>  can someone help me
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00:40 < josh_> maybe
00:40 < josh_> what's the problem?
00:40 < ekim> well
00:40 < ekim> hers the deal
00:40 < ekim>  i got a 5th gen ipod for christmas
00:40 < ekim>  tried to put linux on it
00:41 < josh_> so did I.
00:41 < josh_> so did I.
00:41 < josh_> and?
00:41 < ekim> but i didnt see the huge screen that said 5th gen wasnt supported
00:41 < ekim> so i almost bricked (broke) my ipod
00:41 < ekim> anyways i got it fixed
00:41 < ekim> but i wanna use ipod wizard
00:41 < ekim> have u tried it
00:42 < josh_> no, and I don't see how this is related to iPodLinux
00:42 < ekim> after the first time im kinda freaked out
00:42 < ekim> well
00:42 < ekim> its not
00:42 < ekim> bu
00:42 < ekim> err
00:42 < ekim> did u get ipodlinux workign on your ipod
00:42 < josh_> yes
00:42 < josh_> (well, kinda-sorta)
00:42 < ekim> and that mean what
00:42 < josh_> it works, but it's terribly slow.
00:43 < ekim> how slow is terribly
00:43 < josh_> (that's a consequence of the lcd on the 5g's that we haven't completely figured out yet.)
00:43 < josh_> about 6 fps theoretical max speed.
00:43 < josh_> (I timed it)
00:43 < ekim> i have a 30 g
00:44 < ekim>  do u think it will work any faster
00:44 < josh_> no
00:44 < ekim> cool
00:44 < preglow> and wont figure out for a while either...
00:44 < ekim> what chanel SHOULD i go to then
00:44 < josh_> #ipodwizard, maybe? ipodwizard.net?
00:45 < preglow> btw, does the apple bootloader bootstrap the broadcom chip, or is it connected directly to some eeprom?
00:45 < josh_> preglow: we have no idea.
00:45 < ekim> btw i almost bricked my ipod on christmas day
00:45 < ekim>  i was So sad
00:46 < ekim> it sucked
00:46 < josh_> ekim: whether you almost broke it once has no bearing on whether further attempts will or will not break it.
00:46 < josh_> what installer did you use, btw?
00:46 < preglow> i'm pretty sure you weren't even close to bricking it
00:46 < ekim> i no
00:46 < ekim>  im just paranoid cause of it
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00:47 < ekim> do any of you guys knwo anythign about ipodwizard
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00:47 < preglow> haha
00:47 < josh_> ekim: No.
00:47 < josh_> preglow: ?
00:47 < preglow> it's got its own channel, yet people come here asking for it
00:48 < ekim> because thers nobody on that channel
00:48 < josh_> preglow: 16:44 -!- #ipodwizard 4 iPodWizard - Make your iPod look the way you want it to! <> http://iPodWizard.sf.net
00:48 < ekim> and thers 76 people on this 1
00:48 < josh_> 4 = # of people
00:48 < ekim> i no
00:48 < ekim>  but nobodys on
00:48 < ekim> they have been idle forever
00:49 < josh_> ekim: would you go to a computer store and ask a question about your car, just because there was nobody at the car dealer?
00:49 < ekim> no
00:49 < ekim> but i would go her
00:49 < josh_> it's the same thing
00:49 < josh_> your question is off-topic here
00:49 < ekim> because somebody her is bound to knwo
00:49 < josh_> not true
00:49 < ekim> its about ipods
00:49 < josh_> both computers and cars use electronic components, but your car dealer can't troubleshoot your computer.
00:50 < josh_> both iPodLinux and iPodWizard do stuff with iPods, but we can't help you with iPodWizard.
00:51 < ekim> u no
00:51 < ekim> u could just help em
00:51 < josh_> huh?
00:51 < ekim> i dont wanan know ABOUT ipodwizard
00:51 < ekim> i wanna no how it works
00:51 < josh_> I personally know NOTHING about iPodWizard. NOTHING.
00:51 < ekim> liek 
00:51 < ekim> does it work well
00:51 < ekim>  or is it crappy
00:51 < josh_> I personally know NOTHING about iPodWizard. NOTHING.
00:51 < josh_> Get it?
00:51 < ekim> not the inner workings
00:51 < josh_> I personally know NOTHING about iPodWizard. NOTHING.
00:51 < josh_> Get it?
00:51 < ekim> :-(
00:51 < ekim> ...
00:52 < josh_> go to ipodwizard.net, I'm pretty sure they have good forums.
00:52 < ekim> ..
00:52 < ekim> ok
00:52 < josh_> asking your question here is just off-topic, and please don't try to pretend that it's not.
00:52 < preglow> damn, i haven't even listened to music on my ipod yet, let alone modified its graphics
00:53 < josh_> preglow: you work on Rockbox, right?
00:53 < preglow> yea
00:53 < josh_> how's it going?
00:54 < preglow> slowly, i don't have time to do rockbox work at the moment
00:54 < josh_> ah ok
00:54 < preglow> plus i've got some obscure cache related bugs which complicate things
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01:00 < ekim> k sorry for bothering you guys then
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01:15 < joshn_454> aegray: you there?
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01:27 < joecool> josh_: do you know if the new bootloader is usable yet?
01:28 < josh_> joecool: it is usable
01:28 < joecool> preferable?
01:28 < joecool> or still early
01:28 < josh_> works great for me
01:29 < joecool> any instructions on it?
01:29 < joecool> or guesstimate?
01:29 < josh_> `wiki Loader 2
01:29 < iplbot> Loader 2 (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Loader%202)  [13663 bytes]
01:29 < joecool> thanks
01:29 < josh_> I've tested it on a 4g b&w and a 5g
01:30 < joecool> i have a b&w 4g.. but do you think it'll run on a mini?
01:30 < josh_> it should
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01:47 < Beanman> is the ttk_surface srf static?
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01:50 < DarthLappy> Sash or Minix-sh?
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02:37 < no2pencil> so I fdisk my ipod 4G & it's empty, so how can I restore it with a fat that I can have access to?
02:37 < no2pencil> that I can have access to with my linux machine.  rather
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02:52 < Beanman> when the draw_MYTHING function is passed it passes a ttk_surface srf and i was woundering do i just edit srf in that function and then the returned srf is copied to the screen right?
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02:57 < imphasing> I think I've found my new favorite editor..
02:57  * imphasing sighs
02:57 < imphasing> nvi...doth thee see thine own reflection in yonder mirror of wrought tears?
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03:17 < Tranqualizer> what others are there besides podzilla and Floydzilla?
03:19 < Beanman> the wiki has some more listed
03:20 < Tranqualizer> where on it?
03:21 < imphasing> Interesting... a:b::c:d has an implied relationship with a:c::b:d..
03:21 < imphasing> funky.
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03:25 < Tranqualizer> where on the wiki does it say the others?
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03:30 < DarthLappy> Where can I get arm-uclinux-gcc?
03:31 < DarthLappy> Ooops, there's a Wiki page...Even though I thought I'd searched it
03:33 < Beanman> in the apps Tranqualizer
03:35 < Tranqualizer> k
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03:36 < Tranqualizer> does pokezilla work from mac?
03:40 < Beanman> i dont know i dont even use it on my ipod, i have a Photo and it is not supported :(, i am developing modules for pz2 
03:41 < DarthLappy> Arg...I can't compile minix-sh using cygwin + arm-elf-gcc
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03:45 < DarthLappy> Anybody else had this prob?
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03:46 < Tranqualizer> are there any that work better on the color display than podzilla?
03:48 < coob> FUCK YOUUP THE BUM!
03:48 < DarthLappy> ok...
03:49 < coob> WITH SOUY SOURCE, BISH!
03:49 < coob> RIGH~T UP DI BATTI
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03:59 < Tranqualizer> can someone help me getting Floydzilla working from a mac
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04:09 < DarthLappy> Hello?
04:12 < Beanman> hello
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04:25 < ketamine> hi everyone , i have a quick question
04:33 < coob> moooo
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05:01 < DarthLappy> Where could I obtain a minix-sh binary?
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05:03 < josh_> DarthLappy: http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/minix_sh, but that one doesn't support input.
05:04 < BHSPitLappy> somebody can kick BHSPitLappy2 
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05:09 < DarthLappy> What's the point if it doesn't support inpuit
05:09 < josh_> also
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05:10 < josh_> http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Minix-sh.tgz
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05:10 < josh_> I think that includes a binary, not sure.
05:10 < josh_> (That one supports input.)
05:10 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> -.0;
05:11 < DarthLappy> Yeap, there's a binary
05:11 < DarthLappy> Thanks
05:12 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> so which tutorial posted on the forum is known to work for nano 2g at the moment?
05:12 < BHSPitLappy> [c4a]iNPUT-Site-: www.ipodlinux.org/installation_from_linux
05:13 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> ty
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05:20 < yuriks> hi
05:20 < yuriks> (ipod mini 2g | windows)
05:21 < yuriks> how many partitions a ipod should have after having ipl installed on it?
05:21 < yuriks> 3 right?
05:21 < BHSPitLappy> 3
05:21 < yuriks> hmm
05:21 < yuriks> i only got 2, O_o
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05:21 < yuriks> no wonder it is crashing
05:21 < BHSPitLappy> firmware :: userland :: biggun
05:21 < swilly> i know this has probably been asked 1000 times, but how different is the 5g from the rest (how much extra work has to go into porting ipodlinux)
05:21 < yuriks> where di that parttion go? O_o
05:21 < BHSPitLappy> swilly: new video core, etc
05:22 < BHSPitLappy> yuriks: how did you install
05:22 < yuriks> 4g installer + mini 2g mod
05:22 < BHSPitLappy> i know not of this "mod"
05:22 < BHSPitLappy> i installed on a mini without using any mod
05:22 < yuriks> hmm
05:22 < yuriks> let me find the wikipage
05:23 < yuriks> http://ipodlinux.org/2g_mini
05:23 < yuriks> here
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05:24 < yuriks> well, it was working fine before i updated podzilla
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05:24 < yuriks> ill just reinstall then =P
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05:25 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> when they say move the "podzilla" "start" files into my ipod nano "root" he means just the drive?
05:25 < josh_> yes.
05:25 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> k thanks
05:26 < DarthLappy> HalfLifePod
05:26 < DarthLappy> :D
05:26 < yuriks> lol
05:26 < yuriks> how cna the ipod run this?
05:26 < yuriks> extreme optimization?
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05:26 < yuriks> restoring backup..............
05:26 < DarthLappy> I dunno, it just works
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05:26 < josh_> it's not actually Half-Life, just a wad for Doom that's made to look like it.
05:27 < yuriks> heh
05:27 < DarthLappy> Yeah :(
05:27 < DarthLappy> I can't figure it out! Arg
05:27 < yuriks> even doom... >_>
05:27 < yuriks> someone must have optimized the shit out of it
05:27 < DarthLappy> The nano's screen is too...Nano...
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05:28 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> aww crap same error
05:28 < josh_> DarthLappy: it's 176x132
05:28 < josh_> which is actually higher resolution than the original iPod screen
05:28 < DarthLappy> Everything's too squished up....I dunno what anything says
05:30 < BHSPitLappy> DarthLappy: it's a higher res than the mini
05:30 < BHSPitLappy> maybe even the b/w full-pods
05:30 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> error:no such file command: podzilla
05:30 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> ?
05:30 < BHSPitLappy> [c4a]iNPUT-Site-: get podzilla
05:30 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: yeah, it is. 160x128 vs 176x132
05:30 < BHSPitLappy> cool
05:30 < DarthLappy> Cool
05:31 < DarthLappy> Now...Where am I meant to go :P
05:31 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> im so confused
05:31 < BHSPitLappy> DarthLappy: #waitingroom?
05:31 < DarthLappy> ^_-
05:34 < Beanman> how do i update the screen
05:34 < DarthLappy> AAC playback is good, too bad it has to buffer; slower flicking through tracks
05:34 < josh_> Beanman: huh?
05:35 < yuriks> hmmm
05:35 < yuriks> something is really really wrong
05:35 < yuriks> win isnt seeing my patitions
05:36 < yuriks> and is saying that my 4gb ipod is a 6gb one
05:36 < yuriks> ...
05:37 < yuriks> whats this "linux" folder on the FAT part for?
05:39 < yuriks> anyone?
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05:40 < josh_> what does everyone want me to work on right now? :-)
05:40  * josh_ bored
05:40 < yuriks> on answering me? xD
05:40 < josh_> nah, I mean development stuff ;-)
05:40 < yuriks> =P, meh, too bad for me
05:41 < yuriks> uh, k, windows says i have 2 patitions
05:41 < yuriks> not 3
05:42 < yuriks> -_- why does everyone run when i need them? >_<
05:42 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> hmm...would restoring my nano over 5 times...do damage...
05:43 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> is the question..
05:46 < DarthLappy> I've done it
05:46 < josh_> [c4a]iNPUT-Site-: Np.
05:46 < josh_> *No.
05:46 < DarthLappy> Ack
05:47 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> i get the same no podzilla error everytime
05:47 < DarthLappy> Typing with viP is HARD
05:47 < yuriks> well
05:48 < yuriks> so, any ideias why windows cant see the linux partition?
05:48 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> no clue.
05:48 < yuriks> and whats the linux folder in the fat partition for?
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05:50 < DarthLappy> Windows never sees Linux stuff...
05:50 < yuriks> not on my computer
05:50 < yuriks> on the partition manager
05:51 < DarthLappy> Oh.
05:51 < yuriks> i have a 31mb one (which i suppose is the firmware one)
05:51 < yuriks> and a big 3,77gb fat one
05:51 < yuriks> (lol, big FAT one)
05:52 < DarthLappy> If y'ad Linux ya'd be able to see
05:52 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> because you have to end process of ipodmanager
05:52 < yuriks> well
05:52 < yuriks> i have linux but i dun want to reboot
05:52 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> o
05:53 < yuriks> plus i have to sleep soon
05:53 < [c4a]iNPUT-Site-> hmm...i keep losing memory when i restore
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05:53 < yuriks> ...
05:54 < yuriks> of course >_>
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05:54 < DarthLappy> Hmmm...
05:54 < DarthLappy> Apps look weird on the Nano, eg. minix-sh and viP
05:55 < DarthLappy> And I can't even quit viP
05:55 < yuriks> >_<
05:55 < yuriks> ok
05:55 < yuriks> bye im going to sleep =P
05:55 < DarthLappy> Night
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06:38 < trilluser> ok, I don't have an iPod that can run iPodlinux yet, the reason why I'm here is to ask a question
06:39 < trilluser> my question is, can the iPod running iPodlinux still have the ability to run in DiskMode as an external Hard Disk?
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06:46 < BleuLlama> trilluser: yep. you just boot to apple firmware or run diskmode from firmware
06:47 < trilluser> ok thanks,..I just wanted to know that 'cause I'm really interested in this
06:48 < BleuLlama> ayup
06:48 < BleuLlama> if you want a well supported one, go for the ipod photo/color.  it's probably the safest to use, albiet unsupported
06:48 < BleuLlama> er
06:49 < BleuLlama> "well supported one" meaning, it's nice, color, runs well
06:49 < trilluser> ok
06:49 < BleuLlama> 5g is too slow, and won't be spedup anytime immediate
06:49 < trilluser> right
06:49 < BleuLlama> screen updates at around 4-5 fps
06:50 < BleuLlama> just to let you know
06:50 < BleuLlama> :)
06:50 < trilluser> that is slow :D
06:50 < BleuLlama> yep. 
06:51 < BleuLlama> you can try out podzilla on your desktop computer if you like
06:51 < BleuLlama> look on the website for building podzilla for the desktop, and run from there.
06:51 < BleuLlama> :)
06:51  * BleuLlama off to code for a bit
06:51 < trilluser> just out of curiosity, is the install like a normal Linux install or what?
06:52 < BleuLlama> kinda sorta.  you have to tweak the partitions on the ipod, suck off and modify the firmware from one parttion, put some files in the right place, then to boot it up, just reboot and hold down rewind
06:52 < trilluser> ok
06:53 < BleuLlama> read through the instructions on the wiki
06:53 < trilluser> ok
06:53 < BleuLlama> for 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen, there's an installer that does all the work for you
06:53 < trilluser> ok
06:53 < BleuLlama> some people have made a 4g/4gcolor/nano/mini installer too
06:53 < trilluser> I see
06:54 < BleuLlama> just click-click-click reboot the ipod, and it's done
06:54 < trilluser> awesome
06:57 < trilluser> the website does'nt have the podzilla for the desktop anymore
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06:58 < blindx> Question: can videos be played on the 4G color screen (04 rev) yet?
07:12 < nonother|> what is the aim of the linux project right now? the very neat video and recording features are far more advanced on the 5Gs currently...so i was wondering if the aims have been revised.
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07:18 < blindx> wb gray
07:22 < davidc__> trilluser: disable your stupid bold font
07:22 < davidc__> or I kick you
07:22 < davidc__> kthx
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07:29 < Noxel> Hey
07:30 < Noxel> Has anyone gotten ipodlinux to work on a iPod Color?
07:30 < blindx> yes
07:31 < Noxel> It'll work with any screen?
07:31 < blindx> afaik...
07:31 < blindx> you're talking about the 04 rev, right/
07:31 < Noxel> I remember trying to install it in October or such, but it wouldn't work, contrast issue or something apparently.. has that been resolved?
07:32 < blindx> yes.
07:32 < Noxel> Oh
07:32 < Noxel> really
07:32 < blindx> i have it on my iPod color :)
07:32 < blindx> the one where the apple logo would get all scrambled and such?
07:32 < Noxel> Nice, could you provide me with some good instructions from the site or something... Was hard to understand the instructions last time i tried
07:32 < Noxel> Um, i dont think it was scrambled
07:33 < blindx> looked like a VCR with the tracking off, right?
07:33 < blindx> except sideways
07:33 < Noxel> No, i don't think so, i can't really remember, but i think with mine simply nothing happened.. it was just blank, but i can't recall..
07:34 < blindx> http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_4G_Installer_using_Nightly_Builds
07:34 < blindx> just follow those instructions and you should be golden.
07:34 < blindx> you might need to install floydzilla if you can't see the menu's text.
07:35 < Noxel> mm alright
07:35 < Noxel> thanks i'll try it out right now
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07:36 < Noxel> do i need the .asc files from the nightly builds?
07:36 < Noxel> :S
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07:41 < Noxel> blindx
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07:43 < blindx> uh
07:43 < blindx> no
07:43 < Noxel> when it says save it as ""start"" is there supposed to be quotations still in the filename?
07:43 < Noxel> because it doesnt show quotations
07:43 < BleuLlama> no
07:44 < Noxel> (The " included!):
07:44 < Noxel> mm
07:44 < Noxel> ok
07:44 < blindx> included when you save the file.
07:44 < blindx> to make sure there's no extension on it.
07:44 < Noxel> oh alright
07:44 < blindx> if you just type in start, notepad will add .txt
07:44 < Noxel> kk
07:47 < Noxel> btw
07:47 < Noxel> should i delete my podcasts plus songs before installing?
07:47 < Noxel> and photos
07:49 < blindx> podcasts: yes
07:49 < blindx> songs: no
07:49 < blindx> photos: no
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07:49 < Noxel> kk
07:57 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ (ADDENDUM pzwrap.c): Added the "Persistant" flag.  If set, the widget won't be cleared between (OnDraw) polls. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/642)
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08:05 < Noxel> okay
08:05 < Noxel> well i installed it
08:05 < Noxel> booted up
08:05 < Noxel> but already an issue
08:05 < blindx> whats the issue
08:05 < Noxel> theres no text on the menu names
08:05 < Noxel> and no backlight
08:05 < blindx> didn't i say that?
08:05 < Noxel> :S
08:05 < Noxel> did u?
08:05 < Noxel> oh
08:05 < blindx> hold menu for backlight
08:05 < Noxel> ok, but no menu names
08:05 < Noxel> is that normal?
08:05 < blindx> yes
08:05 < blindx> you need to.
08:06 < blindx> install podzilla.
08:06 < blindx> er
08:06 < josh_> 23:34 <    blindx> you might need to install floydzilla if you can't see the menu's text.
08:06 < blindx> floydzilla.
08:06 < Noxel> oh, sorry lmao
08:06 < Noxel> my bad
08:06 < josh_> specifically, there's a patch at www.dansfloyd.com that "fixes" it
08:06 < Noxel> is it easy to install?
08:06 < josh_> I put "fixes" in quotes because it's really just sidestepping the problem, but oh well... at least you'll see your menus.
08:06 < josh_> yep
08:06 < blindx> if you follow the instructions
08:07 < blindx> hey josh_: do you know if video is supported in the 04 rev, yet?
08:07 < Noxel> http://dansfloyd.com/floydzilla.html
08:07 < Noxel> is that what im looking for?
08:07 < Noxel> download the windows binary
08:07 < Noxel> and installation help?
08:07 < Noxel> the help they provide is accurate for my ipod right?
08:08 < Noxel> "If you have a previous verision of iPod Linux on your iPod.
08:08 < Noxel> You MUST clear it off by doing a 'fake update', or a Restore.
08:09 < Noxel> must i do that? =x
08:09 < blindx> noxel
08:09 < blindx> wait.
08:09 < Noxel> kk
08:09 < blindx> don't do anything yet
08:09 < Noxel> k
08:10 < blindx> www.dansfloyd.com/floydzilla.html
08:10 < blindx> "Patch for iPod Color with x06004 screen"
08:10 < blindx> click Download Patch
08:10 < Noxel> ehh oh wow
08:10 < Noxel> totally missed that
08:10 < Noxel> my bad
08:11 < Noxel> okay wait
08:11 < Noxel> so what installation instructions do i follow?
08:11 < Noxel> :S
08:13 < blindx> I would say the README.txt file in FloydzillaPatch.zip
08:13 < Noxel> 1. Install the Full version of Floyzilla!
08:13 < Noxel> do i use the readme in the floydzilla.zip
08:13 < Noxel> or do i do the
08:13 < Noxel> You MUST clear it off by doing a 'fake update', or a Restore.
08:13 < Noxel> step first?
08:13 < blindx> ...
08:14 < Noxel> because there is 2 installation help pages they provide, the one on the site, and the readme.txt in the floydzilla.txt
08:14 < Noxel> the website has an extra step which is How to do a Fake Update:
08:15 < blindx> I don't remember it being this difficult when i did it..
08:15 < Noxel> well just im not sure if i need to remove ipod linux
08:15 < Noxel> because it says i need to
08:15 < Noxel> or a fake update or whatever, idn
08:16 < blindx> readme.txt in floydzilla.zip says..
08:16 < blindx> 1. Make Sure you have Linux installed on your iPod (http://ipodlinux.org/Downloads)
08:16 < blindx> 2. Run the Floydzilla installer, choose your iPods Drive Letter
08:16 < blindx> and then it's installed :P
08:17 < blindx> then, boot into linux.
08:17 < blindx> then, boot out of linux
08:17 < blindx> plug into computer. apply patch. boot into linux
08:17 < Noxel> lmao, sorry, im just really paranoid right now, dont want to mess anything up.. sorry
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08:26 < Noxel> :D
08:26 < Noxel> nice it worked
08:27 < Noxel> thank you so much blindx
08:27 < blindx> no problem
08:27 < blindx> afaik, videos don't work, but if you'd like to try one with your new installation, it'd be cool if it does work.
08:27 < Noxel> any ideas as to what i should do now? is there anything really cool that i can install? like doom or iboy or such?
08:27 < blindx> doom's already on it :)
08:27 < Noxel> oh really
08:27 < Noxel> nice
08:27 < Noxel> what about iboy?
08:28 < blindx> yeah
08:28 < Noxel> and how do i try installing a video?
08:28 < blindx> www.floydzilla.com
08:28 < blindx> click video
08:28 < blindx> he's got some pre-formatted ones for download
08:28 < Noxel> hmm, where is doom exactly?
08:29 < Noxel> i dont see it in the games
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08:33 < DarthShrine> http://ipodlinux.org/Doom
08:33 < Noxel> i need to install it?
08:35 < DarthShrine> Just stick the folder on the 'Pod
08:35 < DarthShrine> Then open the iDoom file from the filebrowser
08:36 < Noxel> should i just extract idoom to the root?
08:36 < DarthLappy> Yeah
08:36 < Noxel> kk
08:36 < Noxel> btw, can i put podcasts on my ipod?
08:36 < Noxel> now that its installed
08:36 < Noxel> or no?
08:36 < DarthLappy> I don't know...I don't have any.
08:37 < Noxel> hmm alright
08:37 < Noxel> well
08:37 < Noxel> it doesnt show up in the file browser
08:37 < Noxel> :S
08:39 < Noxel> ne idea wuts wrong?
08:39 < Noxel> oh
08:39 < Noxel> silly me
08:40 < Noxel> didnt go to hp folder
08:40 < Noxel> :$
08:40 < DarthShrine> :)
08:40 < Noxel> its not working tho
08:40 < Noxel> hmm
08:41 < Noxel> i click the idoom folder
08:41 < DarthShrine> Mhm.
08:41 < Noxel> and nothing happens
08:41 < DarthShrine> Then there should be an iDoom file.
08:41 < Noxel> when i move the wheel, i get like small x's where the menu arrows are
08:41 < DarthLappy> Click the iDoom file...
08:42 < Noxel> i clicked the folder, can't see any files inside tho
08:42 < DarthLappy> ^_-
08:43 < Noxel> okay
08:43 < Noxel> there we go
08:43 < DarthLappy> I dunno, I do everything from my own Linux install, I stick stuff in /home
08:43 < Noxel> the menu is messed up
08:43 < Noxel> i had to guess
08:43 < Noxel> where it was
08:43 < Noxel> omg!
08:43 < Noxel> this is sweet!
08:43 < DarthLappy> :)
08:44 < Noxel> is it the full game? like does everything work in it?
08:44 < DarthLappy> I think it
08:44 < DarthLappy> 's a demo, 'cause it would be illegal to distribute the full game
08:44 < blindx> I don't know..
08:44 < DarthLappy> You can d/l HalfLife and Quake and stuff for it
08:45 < blindx> Because I never sat down and actually played Doom on my iPod for more than 5 minutes :P
08:45 < Noxel> i can just replace the demo wad with the full wad can't i? or is it specially changed or what not for ipod?
08:45 < DarthLappy> Yeah, you can replace the demo wad
08:45 < blindx> before you go through any trouble, play what you have
08:45 < blindx> if you find yourself needing more.
08:45 < DarthLappy> When installing other games though make them doom2.wad
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08:45 < blindx> then go through the trouble :P
08:46 < Noxel> and i heard that half-life is really bad or whatever, like the AI is really bad or something :S
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08:49 < Noxel> hmm
08:49 < Noxel> http://www.gp32x.de/cgi-bin/cfiles.cgi?0,0,0,0,24
08:49 < Noxel> is that the site?
08:56 < Noxel> do u guys kno how to install the other games?
08:56 < Noxel> :S
08:57 < blindx> no
08:57 < Noxel> hmm
08:57 < blindx> i have a psp for games :)
08:57 < patch6> make or port your own, help the project along
08:58 < DarthLappy> blindx, Yeah, so do I
08:58 < Noxel> pssh!
08:58 < Noxel> i wish i had a psp
08:58 < Noxel> =(
08:58 < blindx> i have a whole bunch of shit.
08:58 < Lex> my sister has a DS
08:58 < blindx> psp, ds, pocket pc..
08:59 < Lex> and i have xbox, gb pocket, gbc, gba
08:59 < Lex> 2 pcs
08:59 < blindx> pcs, i have about 8 :P
08:59 < Lex> :D
08:59 < Noxel> i have a ds
08:59 < blindx> 5 have linux..
08:59 < Noxel> ;p
08:59 < Lex> good
08:59 < Lex> my 2 comps are linux only
08:59 < blindx> 3 have windows.
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09:00 < Lex> and my xbox has linux too, of course
09:00 < blindx> course
09:00 < Lex> gentoo for all
09:00 < blindx> i have knoppix on one..
09:00 < DarthLappy> Hehe
09:00 < blindx> slackware on another..
09:00 < Lex> xbox has gentoox, this has gentoo and my old computer has ubuntu :(
09:00 < DarthLappy> If I didn't have XBL I'd get Linux.
09:00 < blindx> ;p
09:00 < Lex> maybe binary distro is the best for 350MHz
09:00 < Noxel> well, i can hear the sound in the video, but it just says "loading video.."
09:00 < Noxel> =\
09:00 < Lex> :O
09:01 < Lex> update your kernel
09:01 < blindx> he installed with nightlies.
09:01 < Noxel> i just installed ipodlinux 2day
09:01 < blindx> damn, still doesn't work.
09:01 < Noxel> but the music is good!
09:01 < Noxel> take me on!
09:01 < blindx> :P
09:01 < Noxel> from family guy
09:01 < Noxel> ahah
09:01 < Noxel> good stuff
09:01 < patch6> just a general poll, how desirable would having a strong chess program for the ipod be?
09:02 < Noxel> the file browser menus are screwed up tho!
09:02 < blindx> •Noxel• yes.
09:02 < blindx> it's a known problem
09:02 < Noxel> aww
09:02 < Noxel> dang
09:02 < Noxel> annoying
09:02 < Noxel> ah well
09:02 < Noxel> i can just randomly choose files
09:02 < Lex> what the fuc
09:02 < Lex> k
09:02 < Lex> http://ipodlinux.org/Screenshots
09:02 < Lex> is it fucked up?
09:03 < Noxel> is what fucked up
09:03 < Lex> everything is in strange order
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09:03 < [blindx]> ahh linux :P
09:04 < patch6> looks like table breakage
09:04 < Lex> knoppix :(
09:04 < Lex> Linux evo 2.6.14-gentoo-r6 #2 SMP Sat Dec 31 12:03:11 Local time zone must be set--see zic  i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
09:04 < Lex> timezone bugs
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09:06 < Noxel> um
09:06 < Noxel> well
09:06 < Noxel> i somehow got doom 2 to run
09:06 < Noxel> :S
09:07 < [blindx]> iDoom and iDoom2 come preinstalled with floydzilla.
09:07 < patch6> does doom2 run on a mini?
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09:07 < Noxel> no, i put the doom2.wad in my self, cuz there was only doom1.wad
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09:07 < Noxel> :s
09:07 < [blindx]> noxel, it comes preinstalled :P
09:08 < Noxel> to load the games, do u load the .wad files, or the idoom file?
09:08 < [blindx]> iDoom
09:08 < Noxel> how did it choose doom 2 then?
09:08 < Noxel> :s
09:08 < Noxel> lol
09:08  * [blindx] shrugs.
09:08 < Noxel> last time it played doom 1
09:08 < [blindx]> maybe you picked the wrong one? put the file in the wrong place?
09:15 < Noxel> oh blindx, can i put podcasts on my ipod now?
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09:17 < blindx> I'm not sure.
09:18 < Lex> how i can add podcasts into my ipod in linux
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09:25 < Noxel> omg
09:25 < Noxel> haha
09:25 < Noxel> no way
09:25 < Noxel> half-life works
09:26 < Noxel> alright guys
09:26 < Noxel> well im gonna call it a night
09:26 < Noxel> thanks for all your help!!
09:26 < Noxel> later!
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15:42 < yuriks> hi
15:43 < yuriks> i cant see the ext2 partition on windows|mini2g
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15:43 < yuriks> i only see a 31mb partition (which i suppose is for the firmware) and a 3,77gb FAT one
15:43 < yuriks> they take up the entire disk
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17:18 < Tranqualizer> can someone help me get floydzilla working on my ipod color from a mac?
17:18 < god3> floydzilla is useless
17:18 < god3> just install the normal podzilla
17:19 < god3> and go from there
17:19 < Tranqualizer> mmmmm
17:19 < Tranqualizer> I have podzilla
17:19 < Tranqualizer> why is it useless?
17:19 < god3> it is just podzilla with more stuff
17:19 < Tranqualizer> lol
17:19 < Tranqualizer> exactly
17:20 < god3> but if you already have podzilla then just add the stuff yourself
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17:20 < Tranqualizer> mkay
17:21 < Tranqualizer> I have it downloaded
17:21 < Tranqualizer> what do I need to copy over?
17:21 < yuriks2> hey, any way to acess the ext2 partition under windows?
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17:24 < Kingstone> does anyone here have a 5g?
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17:30 < stefan_> Hello everybody.. I have a problem and maby someone here can help.. I've installed podzilla on my 2g mini, the problem is that I've seem to have missed to remain the original apple OS, and now my ipod doesn't mount when I connect it to my computer. Not in windows and not on my debian-system.. anybody has an idea?
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17:31 < BHSPitLappy> stefan_: reboot with center+menu, then as soon as you see the apple press center+play
17:31 < stefan_> Ok, I'l try that
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17:34 < stefan_> Thanks! For a minute there I was ready to trow it away! phew!
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17:57 < fxb> hi
17:58 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm
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18:39 < fxb> mmh
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18:45 < spiffy> hola.
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18:52 < Munin> Holy Schneider. Hey guys! Do you know some kind of way to play sid-files on ipodlinux?
18:53 < BHSPitLappy> what now?
18:53 < BHSPitLappy> oh. a commodore thing?
18:54 < Munin> Yea
18:54 < BHSPitLappy> not until you write it!
18:54 < BHSPitLappy> :D
18:54 < Munin> Darn... :p 
18:55 < Munin> Well... I would have done that a long time ago... If i only knew how 
18:55 < Munin> ^^
18:55 < spiffy> is there still development on a video player to play MPEG or compressed AVI?
18:55 < spiffy> or was that abandoned?
18:56 < BHSPitLappy> spiffy: not abandoned, but not necessarily improved
18:56 < spiffy> that kind of sucks
18:57 < spiffy> eh... maybe i'll just get that 30GB 5G ipod
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20:11 < fxb> yeah, i managed to build pz2
20:11 < Vikking> ? what's pz2 podzilla 2?
20:12 < j0k3r[ZzZ]> yes
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20:38 < decaf> hey guys
20:39 < decaf> ive got a 4g ipod and im getting a folder icon with an exclamation mark, i know its unsupported but it worked before for me..many times in fact
20:45 < BleuLlama> perhaps your disk died
20:45 < BleuLlama> 20gig disk?
20:45 < decaf> yeah
20:45 < decaf> no, its not dead
20:45 < decaf> pod still works fine when im connecting it to the pc
20:45 < decaf> diagnostics work
20:46 < BleuLlama> i've had the same situation with mine
20:46 < BleuLlama> my hard disk died
20:46 < decaf> is it the build im working on
20:46 < decaf> using*
20:46 < BleuLlama> maybe.  dunno
20:46 < decaf> did you ever get it to work
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20:49 < BleuLlama> for me, my drive developed hard errors
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20:55 < whyte_boi> i have a ipod photo x06004 screen..which version of podzilla do i use to watch videos?
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20:56 < whyte_boi> ???
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21:06 < TecnoVM64> decaf, use the apple restore app
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21:19 < decaf> i did
21:19 < decaf> but i still want ipl to work
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21:28 < fxb> dows
21:28 < fxb> :)
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21:34 < fxb> re
21:34 < decaf> damnit, somebody help me :(
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22:02 < decaf> !!
22:03 < imphasing> !!
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22:06 < TecnoVM64> decaf, is what model is it?
22:06 < TecnoVM64> -is
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22:27 < dezze> is there anyway to play .mpg movies on ipodlinux ? just installed latest kernel and podzilla on my photo and it rocks ! =)
22:29 < hyarion> dezze: nope, not yet
22:29 < dezze> ok
22:29 < dezze> this is very cool
22:30 < hyarion> ofcause, it's both ipod and linux on the same time ;)
22:30 < dezze> yes !
22:31 < coob> some knocked up an mpg player with smpeg/sdl, it's not realtime though.
22:31 < dezze> hm
22:32 < imphasing> There's also no audio
22:33 < dezze> hmn ok better wait then
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22:41 < Hunterkll> 5G. Video one - What's the current status on support and/or how can I get involved on the porting effort?
22:42 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ (ADDENDUM pzwrap.c): Added "OnShutdown" "DrawVectorTextCentered" Made the demo example code shorter (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/643)
22:43 < Hunterkll> is the 5G bootable at all yet?
22:43 < erus`> yeh
22:43 < erus`> podzilla runs at like 1mph
22:43 < erus`> the lcd is tooooooo slow
22:43 < Hunterkll> I heard rumors that the lcd updates like hell
22:43 < Hunterkll> ah, right
22:43 < Hunterkll> any ideas what causes that?
22:44 < erus`> they need to decode the video lcd so they can use it properly
22:46 < coob> how do you 'decode' a 'video lcd'
22:46 < coob> the broadcom co processing chip needs to be figured out a bit more
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22:48 < Hunterkll> ah
22:48 < Hunterkll> so the co chip does the LCD work?
22:49 < decaf> anyone wanna make podzilla work with my 4g
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22:49 < Hunterkll> podzilla works on 4g foo
22:50 < dezze> decaf: a photo ?
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22:52 < dezze> anyone know where i could find videos for ipod photo ?
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22:53 < kleynjans> hello 
22:54 < kleynjans> How can i help on the developing of ipodlinux for 5g ipod ??
22:54 < Hunterkll> Ha! I just joined asking about the same thing :)
22:54 < kleynjans> jeje
22:54 < kleynjans> Hunterkll: And you have discover something ??
22:55 < Hunterkll> i want to play doom on my ipod :( heh
22:55 < Hunterkll> nope
22:55 < Hunterkll> heh
22:55 < dezze> the topic says "Development discussion: #ipodlinux-dev"
22:55 < dezze> maybe thats a good start
22:55 < Hunterkll> it's a rather long topic though!
22:55 < dezze> very
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22:56 < kleynjans> ups
22:56 < DarthLappy> Morning
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23:19 < Hunterkll> Well, now that i've made myself seem like quite the idiot, how does one go about getting +v'd in #ipodlinux-dev ?
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23:20 < joecool> Hunterkll: they have to like you.. and you probably have to be a dev
23:20 < joecool> both of which i never qualified for :P
23:20 < Hunterkll> :/ heh
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23:22 < lBox> hi
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23:29 < anowN^> hii , anyone know how too add games too podzilla i.e. snake ? or doesn't it work on the podzilla ?
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23:33 < sadek> hi
23:33 < sadek> i am having following problem
23:33 < sadek> i ve installed ipodlinux
23:34 < sadek> and it worked fine for a week
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23:34 < sadek> day ago, my brother has been playing doom, and he tried to save game
23:34 < sadek> there was an error
23:34 < sadek> so we reseted nano
23:35 < sadek> switched to firmware
23:35 < sadek> and then we tried to go to ipl
23:35 < sadek> no luck
23:35 < sadek> i get kernel panic, try init sth...
23:35 < sadek> also when i plug ipod to pc
23:35 < sadek> it asks me if I want to format it
23:36 < sadek> any guesses?
23:36 < sadek> what to do?
23:37 < BleuLlama> format it, and reinstall
23:38 < BleuLlama> the joys of experimental/unsupported software
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23:39 < sadek> :-)
23:39 < Shadow`> hey is the there a version of ipodlinux that supports the ipod video ?
23:39 < sadek> i ll keep it in mind
23:39 < BleuLlama> no
23:39 < Shadow`> oh ok
23:39 < Shadow`> i'm considering to buy a good pmp
23:40 < Shadow`> but the ipod video can only play a few formats
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23:41 < Hunterkll> so?
23:41 < Hunterkll> the ipod vid is great =]
23:41 < Hunterkll> just use iSquint to convert everything to mpeg2 or h.264
23:41 < Shadow`> it takes really long on my crappy pc to convert
23:42 < Shadow`> and the specs of the ipod are not that great
23:44 < Hunterkll> hey
23:44 < Hunterkll> it's worth it because it just works and is nice to use ;)
23:44 < Shadow`> its really exphensive tho
23:45 < Hunterkll> eh you pay for quality
23:45 < Hunterkll> :)
23:45 < BleuLlama> Shadow`: so don't get it. get an iriver instead
23:46 < Shadow`> BleuLlama what type ?
23:47 < BleuLlama> i don't know.  you've obviously decided to not get an ipod and just complain about it in here. go to an iriver chat channel and ask them
23:47 < Shadow`> i'm not complaining i'm consodering to get it
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23:50 < decaf> hm
23:50 < decaf> so anyone wanna help me install podzilla onto my unsupported 4g ipod
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23:52 < BleuLlama> decaf: either download an unsupported installer, or follow the directions on the wiki and do it by hand.  it's pretty easy.
23:52 < BleuLlama> go to the forums and start reading
23:52  * BleuLlama afk
23:54 < jim___> hi there
23:54 < jim___> just installed ipod linux through the osx instsaller
23:54 < jim___> all seems to have gone well except contrast
23:55 < jim___> have changed contrast & clicked save settings
23:55 < jim___> do i need to restart the ipod for it to kick in?
23:57 < jim___> whoops sorry, got it running
23:57 < jim___> man, u guys have been busy since i last check u out (about a year ago)
23:57 < jim___> Nice job
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