--- Log opened Sat Jan 07 00:00:01 2006 00:02 < DDustin> good morning 00:04 -!- Oleg_ [n=Oleg@216.194.59.249] has joined #ipodlinux 00:04 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-64-123-190-199.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 < Oleg_> aegray: Thanks! All I had to do was to enable SCSI disk support in my kernel and then after re-booting all I had to do was "mount /dev/sda2 /ipod"! 00:05 < Oleg_> wow 00:06 < aegray> cool 00:08 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:20 -!- Esion2 [n=Haloman0@c-67-181-202-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:21 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:28 < EnterUserName> does anyone here use ipodlinux with mythtv? 00:44 < linuxkernal> no sorry 00:51 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@210-9-137-245.netspeed.com.au] has quit [] 00:56 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-228-1.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:57 -!- TecnoVM64 [n=tecnovm@201.243.233.40] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@210-9-137-245.netspeed.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:00 -!- jesse [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:00 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:01 < josh_> 14:46 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: ping 01:01 < josh_> ponnnng 01:02 -!- boza111 [n=boza111@p5088F3D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:02 < boza111> hi all 01:03 < boza111> havn't been here for ages 01:03 < boza111> anyone still awake 01:05 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:06 -!- joshk [i=joshk@triplehelix.org] has quit ["leaving"] 01:06 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has joined #ipodlinux 01:07 < X3|MintyMonkey> hello? 01:07 < josh_> veteran: ping 01:07 < X3|MintyMonkey> anyone got any ideas for compressing ipod videos so a 30 mb file doesnt turn outto be 1gig? 01:08 < boza111> doesn't work 01:08 < X3|MintyMonkey> ? 01:08 < boza111> the ipod can only play uncompressed videos 01:08 < X3|MintyMonkey> ohh 01:08 < boza111> since the cpu isnt fast enough 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> i see, that stinks 01:09 < boza111> and it doesnt have a proper graphics chip 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> well do u know if u could just compress it on ur comp 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> and then make it bigger 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> if u know waht i mean 01:09 < boza111> what do you mean 01:09 < boza111> lol no 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> hmm 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> say u have a 700mb file 01:09 < X3|MintyMonkey> .avi 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> so you go download a avi compressor for the comp version 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> and compress it 01:10 < TecnoVM64> the ipod won't uncompress it fast enough 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> then you convert that compressed file using ipod converter progg 01:10 < boza111> it still wont make much of a difference 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> i see 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> well 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> why not? 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> if u get a nice compressor 01:10 < X3|MintyMonkey> u could make it pretty small 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> although it would still be about 1 or 2 gigs 01:11 < boza111> if you make the screen size of the video smaller , they file should be smaller 01:11 < boza111> the 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> wuts the best program for doing that do u think? 01:11 < veteran> josh_, yes? 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> wuts the best program for doing that do u think? 01:11 < boza111> i don't know right now 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> oh 01:11 < boza111> do you use cygwin ? 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> how much do u think it would compress it? 01:11 < X3|MintyMonkey> neg 01:12 < boza111> what do you use 01:12 < X3|MintyMonkey> MoPid 01:12 < X3|MintyMonkey> for converting vids if thats what ur asking 01:12 < X3|MintyMonkey> and i guess it uses cygwin in a way 01:13 < josh_> veteran: did you add the "Forum Rules" to the posting page? 01:13 < X3|MintyMonkey> boza, how much you think resizing it would shrink the file size? 01:14 < veteran> josh_, the forums evolved 01:14 < boza111> i have no clue , you will have to try it out 01:14 < josh_> veteran: ah. how so? 01:14 < X3|MintyMonkey> ok 01:14 < josh_> new ver of phpbb? 01:14 < veteran> into a heap of whining noobs that need forum rules above each posting page :/ 01:14 < josh_> ah yeah. 01:14 < veteran> so yes, i did. any problems with it? 01:14 < boza111> try using google to find a program that can resize videos :) 01:14 < josh_> no, it looks good to me 01:15 < veteran> it's very useful to copy/paste into the box below 01:15 < josh_> my only little tiny issue with it is it pushes the edit box semi-offscreen, which gets kind of annoying after a bunch of posts - but that's a small price to pay for eliminating some of the n00bage :-) also might be I'm just not used to the layout yet. 01:17 -!- clawfinger [n=clawfing@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 < veteran> well, i guarantee i can make it worse ;) 01:18 * veteran remembers iPodXP 01:18 < josh_> haha 01:18 < josh_> no worries, it's good :-) 01:19 -!- veteran is now known as vet`afk 01:19 < vet`afk> the bans will not begin until i'm back. 01:21 < boza111> yo guys anything interesting happened on IPL 01:22 < boza111> hey mintymonkey , are you still there ? 01:23 < X3|MintyMonkey> yeah 01:23 < X3|MintyMonkey> hey 01:24 < X3|MintyMonkey> boza111 01:24 < boza111> i just converted a video that was 2 minutes long , with a small screen 01:24 < X3|MintyMonkey> really? 01:24 < X3|MintyMonkey> how big was it? 01:24 < boza111> it was 10 mbs and now its about 15 01:24 < X3|MintyMonkey> awesome 01:24 < X3|MintyMonkey> what did u do? 01:24 < boza111> but thats in b and white 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> ohh 01:25 < boza111> do you need it in colour ? 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> :) 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> i like color 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> but i have a question 01:25 < boza111> one sec ill check how big it will be in colour 01:25 < boza111> yea 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> what is the size of the nano screen 01:25 < X3|MintyMonkey> so i can resize a vid 01:26 < boza111> hmm i cant tell u just like that , but it says it lots in the forum 01:26 < josh_> 176x132 01:26 < X3|MintyMonkey> tnx 01:28 < boza111> ok now its gone from 10 to 50 01:29 < X3|MintyMonkey> darn 01:29 < X3|MintyMonkey> thats alot bigger 01:29 < X3|MintyMonkey> im using dr.divx to try and reduce the size 01:30 < boza111> ok 01:30 < X3|MintyMonkey> hopefully it works 01:30 < X3|MintyMonkey> im using advent children :D 01:30 < boza111> yea it is a lot bigger 01:30 < boza111> :p 01:30 < X3|MintyMonkey> i dont see why 01:31 < X3|MintyMonkey> the iPL people dont just make it so their firmware support compression 01:31 < X3|MintyMonkey> i know its alot harder than it sounds though 01:31 < josh_> X3|MintyMonkey: Yes. It is. 01:31 < josh_> Really, really, really hard. 01:31 < X3|MintyMonkey> i just really want big movie on ipod though 01:31 < X3|MintyMonkey> im getting anxious 01:31 < josh_> well that's not going to change anything, unless you decide to learn programming and do it yourself (and trust me, you would have our greatest thanks if you did) 01:31 < josh_> otherwise, kindly stop complaining about it. thanks. 01:32 < X3|MintyMonkey> im not trying to complain sorry 01:32 < josh_> ok, understood, it just came across that way. 01:32 < boza111> well , the cpu is really not fast enough 01:32 < X3|MintyMonkey> yeh 01:33 < boza111> but the 5th gen ipod has a graphics chip , but no one can figure out how to get it to work 01:33 < TecnoVM64> j\k, are you there? 01:33 < X3|MintyMonkey> oh 01:34 < X3|MintyMonkey> is that why ipl aint in nice colors and such? 01:34 < boza111> but if someone will , compressed movies wont be a problem , so maybe divx would even work 01:34 < X3|MintyMonkey> yeah, there is some great hackers out there 01:34 < X3|MintyMonkey> i have a psp and its amazing some of the developers for it 01:34 < boza111> no ipl isnt in nice colours , coz no one really programmed nice colours for it :p 01:34 < X3|MintyMonkey> oh lol 01:35 < X3|MintyMonkey> well dr.divx is encoding atm 01:35 < boza111> although the themes are quite nice , try changing font and adding a gradient menu 01:35 < X3|MintyMonkey> so it is gonna take a while 01:35 < boza111> ok 01:36 < X3|MintyMonkey> so wait 01:36 < X3|MintyMonkey> what were u doing earlier to make the videos like that 01:36 < boza111> like what ? 01:36 < X3|MintyMonkey> like u got a video from 10 to 15 01:36 < X3|MintyMonkey> how? 01:37 -!- clawfinger [n=clawfing@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20051215]"] 01:37 < boza111> oh . i told you i did it for the black and white ipods by mistake 01:37 < X3|MintyMonkey> oh 01:37 < X3|MintyMonkey> what ipod do u have? 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> waht if there was a way to make a zip thing for ipod 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> so u could have them zipped 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> sections 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> of a vid 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> and then just unzip if u wanna use 01:38 < X3|MintyMonkey> and rezip others 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> "josh_ : ponnnng" 01:39 < BHSPitMonkey> pang 01:40 -!- kboal [n=kboal@c-24-147-74-88.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 01:40 < boza111> i have a 3gen 01:40 -!- sixo [n=Sixo@cpe-72-130-25-161.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:40 < sixo> hello 01:40 < kboal> Hi, I am getting an error when trying to compile the ipodeth1394 module. I have kernel 2.6.12. 01:40 < kboal> [root@localhost 2.6]# make 01:40 < kboal> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1376_FC3/build SUBDIRS=/tools/ipodeth1394/2.6 modules 01:40 < kboal> make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1376_FC3/build' 01:40 < kboal> CC [M] /tools/ipodeth1394/2.6/ipodeth1394.o 01:41 < kboal> make[2]: *** [/tools/ipodeth1394/2.6/ipodeth1394.o] Error 1 01:41 < kboal> make[1]: *** [_module_/tools/ipodeth1394/2.6] Error 2 01:41 < kboal> make[1]: Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-1.1376_FC3/build' 01:41 < kboal> make: *** [default] Error 2 01:41 < sixo> how do you exactly install this? 01:41 < BHSPitMonkey> kboal: stop 01:41 < BHSPitMonkey> not in here, kboal 01:41 < kboal> Sorry 01:41 < kboal> Which channel? 01:41 < BHSPitMonkey> kboal: sounds like you've finished. 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> #ipodlinux.flood 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> sixo: www.ipodlinux.org <---all questions answered 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> see topic. 01:42 < sixo> im looking 01:42 < sixo> not seeing from what i gathered i send you my ipod and you install, tht doesnt sound correct though 01:42 < BHSPitMonkey> absolutely not. 01:43 < BHSPitMonkey> nothing on there should lead you to believe that, either 01:43 < BHSPitMonkey> sixo: are you familiar with linux as a pc operating system 01:43 < sixo> i have use it 01:43 < sixo> used* 01:43 < BHSPitMonkey> what's your generation of ipod 01:44 < sixo> 4G 01:44 < sixo> color screen 01:44 < BHSPitMonkey> do you have linux available, or just windows 01:44 < sixo> win 01:44 < BHSPitMonkey> you can look at some of the unofficial 4G installers at the bottom of ipodlinux.org/Installation 01:45 < sixo> thanks 01:48 -!- sixo [n=Sixo@cpe-72-130-25-161.socal.res.rr.com] has left #iPodLinux ["Leaving"] 01:51 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 01:52 < kboal> I have to compile the ieee1394 driver before I can build the ipodeth module correct? 01:52 < DarthLappy> Hmm, I know there's no Nano support, but could someone maybe help? 01:53 < kboal> With? 01:54 < BHSPitMonkey> my nano's supported by my mad skills 01:54 < DarthLappy> I used JohnnyWest's installer, and when I reboot into IPL it has the podzilla error, so how do I go back and copy? Disk mode and standard f/w won't let me view the iPod as a drive. 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> DarthLappy: hp format utility, search the forums 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> err 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> are the forums still around? 01:55 < DarthLappy> I have that... 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> mmk 01:55 < DarthLappy> Does it let me access the iPod to stick the files on again? 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> 1) wipe ipod clean 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> 2) get linux 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> 3) install properly 01:55 < DarthLappy> :/ 01:56 < DarthLappy> Oook... 01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> ;) 01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> so are ipods big in australia? :P 01:56 < DarthLappy> And any way without going to Linux? 01:57 < BHSPitMonkey> DarthLappy: linux is the only surefire way to go, i've not heard of a working windows method on the nano 01:57 < DarthLappy> Many people at school have them. 01:57 < DarthLappy> Why won't it let me copy after installing? Does something happen in the installation? 01:57 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> the partition structure is changed 01:58 < DarthLappy> Therefore no access? 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> the windows installers tend to botch up an ipod like that, yes 01:58 < DarthLappy> Ah 01:59 < DarthLappy> I won't have a Linux computer available 'til later today. 01:59 < DarthLappy> :( 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> drats 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> that long? 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 02:00 * BleuLlama trying to figure out code he wrote in 2001 02:00 < DarthLappy> Lol nice 02:02 * BHSPitMonkey can't even decipher handwriting he wrote in 2001 02:02 < DarthLappy> Lol! 02:02 * BHSPitMonkey or s/2001/2005 02:02 < DarthLappy> Is there any way to manually install from Winders? 02:02 < BHSPitMonkey> DarthLappy: nope 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> not for now at least 02:03 < DarthLappy> :( 02:03 * DarthLappy heads over to the Wiki 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> possible to build the firmware partition and all that goodness, the problem is the root filesystem for linux 02:03 < BHSPitMonkey> no ext compatibility (yet) on windows 02:03 < DarthLappy> Ah yes 02:04 < josh_> DarthLappy: you can try to wing it with the rawpod tools, but nobody's actually used them yet :-) 02:04 < josh_> also, I don't think they support untarring archives or anything... mainly intended for post-install custimization. 02:04 * BHSPitMonkey catches josh_ in oversized butterfly net 02:04 < josh_> also, they're really, really, really, really slow. 02:04 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: yes? 02:04 < BHSPitMonkey> got ya. 02:04 < BHSPitMonkey> had some problems with ipodloader2 when i added a config file :S 02:05 < josh_> did it work before that? 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 02:05 < josh_> what happens now? 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> it will only work now if my config file's not present 02:05 < josh_> where did you put your config file? 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> 2nd part. 02:05 < josh_> what name? 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> (FAT32) 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> loader.cfg 02:05 < josh_> what's in it? (pastebin or .flood) 02:06 < josh_> BHSPitMonkey: any relation between you and X3|MintyMonkey? 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> nope 02:06 < josh_> 18:05 < josh_> what's in it? (pastebin or .flood) 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> i only have it saved on the ipod, i'm mounting it and such 02:07 < josh_> ok, cool. 02:22 -!- boza111 [n=boza111@p5088F3D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:29 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@210-9-137-245.netspeed.com.au] has quit [] 02:38 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:39 -!- fxb^off [n=fxb@p548FE9FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:40 < fxb^off> hi 02:40 -!- fxb^off is now known as fxb_ 02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> hi 02:42 -!- boza111 [n=boza111@p5088CB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < boza111> so anything interesting happening on IPL ? anyone ? 02:45 < BHSPitMonkey> what's not interesting about iPL? 02:45 < boza111> lol 02:46 < boza111> i mean , have their been any new good progs recently 02:46 < BHSPitMonkey> define recent. 02:47 < boza111> ok , hmm what are the latest 2 apps made 02:47 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh 02:47 < boza111> ok i guess not that interesting :p 02:47 < BHSPitMonkey> why don't you just svn up the source tree, build, and see for yourself. 02:48 < boza111> ahh , there just usually fixes , stuff like that in there 02:48 < BHSPitMonkey> ? 02:48 < boza111> do you use podzilla2 , i havnt tried it 02:48 < BHSPitMonkey> of course i do 02:48 < BHSPitMonkey> it's 2 more than podzilla0 02:49 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 02:49 < boza111> :P 02:49 < boza111> is it good ? what can it fo 02:49 < boza111> do* 02:49 < BHSPitMonkey> build it! 02:49 -!- EnterUserName [n=EnterUse@pdpc/supporter/student/GeekZoid] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:49 < fxb_> can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv16570 02:49 < fxb_> No space left on device 02:50 < fxb_> is that a server error? 02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: huh? 02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> when doing what? 02:50 < boza111> cant build it right now , my ipod is messed up i need a new hdd 02:50 -!- virtualball [n=virtualb@AC8B642B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:50 < fxb_> it always happens when i checkout from cvs 02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> boza111: build it for your desktop 02:50 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: i cvs'd yesterday, no problems here 02:51 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: what are you trying to pull out? 02:51 < fxb_> microwindows 02:51 < boza111> oh , yea i might do , but in that case i will need to reconfigure my cygwin , no time for that right now :) 02:51 < fxb_> i googled and found out, that it must be: the cvs server run out of space 02:51 < fxb_> but im not sure 02:51 < BHSPitMonkey> is microwindows on iPL's cvs server? 02:51 < fxb_> i will just wait... 02:52 < fxb_> yes... 02:52 < BHSPitMonkey> i thought you get that from microwindows' site 02:52 < fxb_> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co tools/microwindows 02:52 < fxb_> ^^ 02:53 < fxb_> grml... 02:53 < virtualball> I have a question about how to build PZ2 02:53 < BHSPitMonkey> attempting a desktop build, fxb_ ? 02:53 < fxb_> yes... 02:53 -!- kboal [n=kboal@c-24-147-74-88.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:53 < BHSPitMonkey> i've only built it in linux, sorry 02:53 < fxb_> i just want to start iPL Programming 02:53 -!- syamajala [n=syamajal@c-24-147-61-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:53 < virtualball> Josh said to build SDL, is that the SDL from the building SDL page or is there something different 02:54 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: if you're serious at all about iPL programming, i highly recommend you start using linux then 02:54 < fxb_> i am using linux... 02:54 < virtualball> whats wrong with Mac? 02:54 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: what howto are you using?? 02:54 < fxb_> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_%28legacy%29 02:55 < fxb_> i've done it before, many times 02:55 < josh_> virtualball: that's SDL for the desktop 02:55 < BHSPitMonkey> fxb_: there's no point in developing for legacy podzilla anymore, really 02:55 < fxb_> :) k 02:55 < fxb_> then i will try to build pz2 now :D 02:56 < BHSPitMonkey> and building podzilla2 for desktop is a lot more painless too :D 02:56 < virtualball> josh_, so what do i do to build it, is it on the wiki? 02:56 < fxb_> virtualball: http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla 02:57 < virtualball> ok thanks 02:58 < virtualball> ok, but how do i get the SL_image and SDL things installed? 02:58 < josh_> virtualball: no, it's a standard application. 02:58 < josh_> you can get it with fink or something. 02:58 < josh_> s/application/librar/y 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 02:59 < josh_> s|librar/y|library| 02:59 < josh_> s|$|/| 02:59 < virtualball> from where? I feel like an idiot lol 02:59 * josh_ cnat tpye 02:59 < virtualball> lmao 02:59 < josh_> virtualball: same place you get any other app... 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> josh_: :D 02:59 < virtualball> ok thanks 02:59 < josh_> try libsdl.org 02:59 < virtualball> thank you! lol 03:02 < virtualball> ok, do i get the SDL 1.2.8 Runtime library or Development Library? 03:02 < fxb_> dev^^ i think... 03:03 < josh_> both 03:03 < josh_> er wait 03:03 < josh_> what OS? 03:03 < virtualball> ok thanks, i never had this much trouble with PZL, why does everyone say it is easier then the latter one? 03:03 < virtualball> Mac OS X 03:04 < josh_> eh, I'd say both. 03:04 < virtualball> ok thanks 03:04 < josh_> answer to your question: because pzl required about a dozen dependencies, pz2 has *two* (that aren't in the svn repository) 03:04 < josh_> gettext and SDL 03:04 < Oleg_> oops, I disconnected my ipod without unmounting it first 03:04 < Oleg_> is it bad? 03:04 < josh_> Oleg_: it should be fine, unless you were just writing something to it. 03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> if you data was being written 03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> a sasdh 03:05 * BHSPitMonkey "cnat tyoe" either 03:05 < Oleg_> no, no data was being written 03:05 < BHSPitMonkey> damn! 03:05 * BHSPitMonkey gives up typing altogether 03:05 < virtualball> lmao again 03:08 < virtualball> Well i downloaded both, i moved the frameworks and installed the pkg and it still doesn't work 03:09 < BHSPitMonkey> frameworks = THE best show ever 03:09 < BHSPitMonkey> 03:10 < BHSPitMonkey> virtualball: what's your distro? 03:10 < virtualball> disto of what? 03:10 < virtualball> Mac, TTK, GCC, SDL? 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> oh, you're on mac 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> i forgot 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 03:11 < josh_> virtualball: what does "sdl-config --cflags --libs" report? 03:11 < josh_> (from terminal) 03:11 -!- vet`afk is now known as veteran 03:11 < virtualball> ya, i would have Linux, but theres that problem with Ubantu that makes it not work 03:11 < virtualball> lemme try josh 03:12 < BHSPitMonkey> virtualball: then i'd say don't use ubuntu :P 03:12 < virtualball> sdl-config: command not found 03:12 < virtualball> BHSPitMonkey, duh lol, what high school do you goto, I goto a BHS too lol 03:13 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:13 < BHSPitMonkey> one in the DFW area. 03:14 < josh_> 19:12 < virtualba> sdl-config: command not found 03:14 -!- boza111 [n=boza111@p5088CB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:14 < josh_> try installing SDL with fink 03:14 < josh_> do you have fink? 03:14 < virtualball> ya 03:14 < josh_> use it 03:14 < virtualball> i have the SDL 1.2.8 from the site and used that sdl-config 03:14 < virtualball> it says 03:14 < josh_> and gettext too 03:14 < virtualball> -I/usr/include/SDL -D_THREAD_SAFE 03:14 < virtualball> -L/usr/lib -lSDLmain -lSDL -framework Cocoa -framework OpenGL 03:14 < josh_> looks fine to me 03:15 < josh_> is sdl-config in your $PATH? 03:15 < virtualball> no 03:16 < josh_> you need it to be. 03:17 < virtualball> i moved it to the bin folder and it still says that it isnt found 03:17 < aegray> ls 03:18 < virtualball> ok 03:18 -!- joecool_ is now known as joecool 03:18 < virtualball> ya sdl-config is in there 03:22 < veteran> has that Ranix kid ever been in IRC? 03:22 < virtualball> eh nevermind il figure it out later 03:22 < virtualball> veteran, i hope not, he really annoys me 03:24 < veteran> i just pm'd him a warning, but I think it wasn't harsh enough. 03:25 < josh_> veteran: I already tried, but mine definitely wasn't harsh enough. 03:25 < veteran> well.... 03:25 < josh_> "Please stop using your "n00b form". It creates more problems that it solves, it's really rude, and it angers people unnecessarily. We don't want to raise the forum temperature that much. " 03:25 < veteran> deleting his username will only deprive him of 8 days worth of posts 03:25 < veteran> (yes, he's posted 124 posts worth of crap in 8 days) 03:25 < josh_> > "Sure, no problem man.... Let it just be known that it could be a wonderful new form that will save everyone from n00bs. " 03:25 < josh_> wow. 03:26 < veteran> a wonderful new form? 03:26 < virtualball> wow, has he done ANYTHING for iPL yet? 03:26 < josh_> >> [ "Let it just be known that it could be a wonderful new form" ] . . . that will make us moderators go insane and turn all our users against us. No thanks. 03:26 < veteran> is that like, an with css styling? 03:26 < josh_> haha 03:26 < josh_> >>> 03:26 < josh_> er 03:26 < josh_> >>> "How will it make mods go insane? " 03:27 < josh_> >>>> "Trying to deal with all the crap they result in. Even if you think the forms are fair - which I don't - you can't deny they produce a lot of really annoyed responses, which we have to clean up. " 03:27 < josh_> >>>>> "Oh, I guess if I looked from someone elses view, I would see that I would be angry at that person. Can we be friends? Please? " (emphasis added) 03:27 < josh_> Um... no. 03:28 < virtualball> lmao 03:29 * veteran counts the number of times that forms is spelled "forums" on the site 03:32 < virtualball> i g2g, thanks for your help you guys! 03:32 < virtualball> ^^that was meant in a good tone 03:32 -!- virtualball [n=virtualb@AC8B642B.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["virtualball has no reason"] 03:33 < josh_> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not true :-) 03:33 < BHSPitMonkey> how often does the word "forms" even come up? 03:33 -!- Oleg_ [n=Oleg@216.194.59.249] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:34 < imphasing> When you're writing out a form? 03:35 < BHSPitMonkey> imphasing: ok? so go to the forum for me and count the occurances of that scenario 03:37 < imphasing> I wasn't speaking in the context of a forum, merely filling out a form. 03:37 < imphasing> :D 03:48 < fxb_> make[1]: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Kommando nicht gefunden = Command not found 03:48 < fxb_> do i have to add something to the path? and how do i? 03:49 < fxb_> i installed the 3.4.3 toolchain^^ 03:49 < veteran> josh_, delete flames at will from now on 03:49 < veteran> and, questions that have been asked before, and are obviously answered elsewhere 03:50 < veteran> i usually send a PM before deleting though, that quickly says "please search the forums before you post, your question has been answered elsewhere" 03:50 < veteran> your hours are 8am-6pm central, you are expected to take 30 minutes for lunch at 12. 03:50 < veteran> any questions? 03:52 < aegray> what's his salary? 03:52 -!- tahpot [n=tahpot@ppp251-152.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:53 < tahpot> nano : unable to see it in dmesg after installing ipod linux - any ideas? 03:53 < veteran> salary? ha! 03:54 < tahpot> saying "yes" to enter disk mode when prompted by podzilla just displays the apple logo and get nothing else 03:54 < aegray> put it in diskmode with key combinations 03:55 < aegray> yea yes to diskmode doesn't work on nano 03:55 < tahpot> so i do what exactly? 03:55 < aegray> `diskmode 03:55 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center [from aegray] 03:56 < tahpot> ah yes i'd been doing that successfully, while trying to install ipodlinux 03:57 < aegray> that should work 03:57 < imphasing> I wouldn't mind a salary for deleting posts... 03:57 < tahpot> ... but now once ipodlinux is installed it still just displays apple logo and can't see it still 03:57 < imphasing> I could leave little "memos" in their PM folder too 03:57 < tahpot> hmmm.. :/ 03:59 < aegray> tahpot: keep doing that until it gets to diskmode 03:59 < aegray> then it should connect 04:01 < fxb_> fxb@Vigor10:~/ipodlinux/ttk> make 04:01 < fxb_> >>> Building TTK... 04:01 < fxb_> make -C build/ipod-sdl IPOD=1 SDL=1 all 04:01 < fxb_> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/fxb/ipodlinux/ttk/build/ipod-sdl' 04:01 < fxb_> arm-uclinux-elf-gcc -g -I. -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-implicit -Wno-char-subscripts -DIPOD -DNO_TF -DSDL -I../sdlincludes -c -o ttk.o ttk.c 04:01 < fxb_> make[1]: arm-uclinux-elf-gcc: Command not found 04:01 < fxb_> make[1]: *** [ttk.o] Error 127 04:01 < fxb_> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/fxb/ipodlinux/ttk/build/ipod-sdl' 04:01 < fxb_> make: *** [all] Error 2 04:01 < fxb_> -.- 04:01 < fxb_> :/ 04:01 < aegray> maybe you should...... 04:01 < aegray> install the toolchain 04:01 < fxb_> but i installed it , grml... 04:02 < aegray> then its not in your path 04:02 < aegray> obviously 04:02 < fxb_> how do i add it to my path??? 04:02 < aegray> what system? 04:02 < fxb_> linux 04:02 < fxb_> suse 9.3 04:02 < aegray> export PATH=whatever:$PATH 04:02 < fxb_> thx 04:03 < veteran> hm maybe we could modify spamassassin's filters into more of a noobassassin script (if x percent of a message is in capitals, increase its score, etc) 04:03 < tahpot> aegray : its definately not going into it... i was successfully getting into it before, but can't now 04:03 < aegray> veteran: :) 04:03 < veteran> or maybe we could just hire a noob assassin. 04:03 < aegray> tahpot: keep trying - theres almost no way that ipl screws up the flash 04:03 < aegray> otherwise - its a hardware problem - which I doubt 04:03 < tahpot> i only want to mount the device because ipodlinux can't see the large partition, browsing filesystem just shows me linux partition 04:04 < aegray> even in /mnt? 04:04 < tahpot> i'm also unable to boot into the old ipod os by holding down left while booting 04:04 < tahpot> aegray: yes even in /mnt - its empty 04:04 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 04:05 < aegray> fun fun 04:05 < fxb_> is arm-uclinux-elf-gcc the same as arm-elf-gcc? 04:06 < aegray> o 04:06 < aegray> no 04:06 < aegray> its a newer version 04:06 < aegray> `toolchain 04:06 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. Newer gcc 3.4.3-based toolchain, with locale support, at http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/toolchain/. [from aegray] 04:06 < aegray> second link 04:06 < fxb_> i installed the 3.4.3 toolchain 04:06 < aegray> then its not in your path 04:06 < aegray> like i said 04:06 < fxb_> but i cant find any arm-uclinux-elf-gcc 04:06 < aegray> /usr/local/arm-uc..... 04:07 < fxb_> there is a /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2 04:07 < fxb_> found it :) 04:08 < aegray> add the whatever/bin to your path 04:08 < aegray> whatever being /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tool.... 04:08 < fxb_> done 04:08 < fxb_> /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin 04:09 < fxb_> k, now i will have to install flex or something... 04:09 * aegray afk 04:10 < fxb_> puh,that was easy... 04:22 < fxb_> mmh, make can't find SDL_image.h even if i reinstall it with YaST 04:22 < fxb_> again something with the path? 04:24 < fxb_> k, i'm going to bed now... 5:24... 04:24 -!- fxb_ [n=fxb@p548FE9FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 04:32 -!- tahpot [n=tahpot@ppp251-152.static.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:35 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 < DarthLappy> Arg...Evil laptop. 04:42 -!- Ps3rules27 [n=asylum@pcp02733179pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:42 < Ps3rules27> yo 04:42 < Ps3rules27> was wonderin if any1 got video to work on a ipod photo ? 04:43 < BHSPitMonkey> why, what have you heard? 04:43 < Ps3rules27> nothin 04:43 < Ps3rules27> i was j/w if you could.. 04:44 < BHSPitMonkey> sure. 04:44 < Ps3rules27> then i dont have to go buy another ipod cause apple really ripped me off on this photo 04:44 < Ps3rules27> lol 04:44 < Ps3rules27> $499 my ass 04:45 < BHSPitMonkey> it's not like having a 5G, iPL can only play uncompressed avi at the moment 04:45 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 04:49 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:49 < Ps3rules27> ah ok 04:59 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:08 -!- Mr_Milenko is now known as Dyn_User6236737 05:08 -!- Dyn_User6236737 is now known as Mr_Milenko 05:09 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:10 < DarthLappy> BHSPitMonkey, Ya there? 05:11 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:11 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has quit ["timezone correction"] 05:11 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has joined #ipodlinux 05:14 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:15 -!- joshk [i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org] has joined #ipodlinux 05:23 * DarthLappy throws a rock at BHSPitMonkey 05:24 -!- Ps3rules27 [n=asylum@pcp02733179pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:26 < Ramzi22> hmm im trying to make a backup of my ipod with dd in linux and it doesnt seem to be working, i backed up the MBR, withh dd /dev/sda, and i can mount and view my files on /dev/sda2 but when i try and dd /dev/sda1 i get this error "dd: opening '/dev/sda1': No such file or directory" 05:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:38 -!- tcrab [n=tcrab1@68-88-58-19.ded.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:43 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 05:44 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ (eval.c lists.c lithp.h pzwrap.c): The wrapper module side is pretty much done. Need to add in graphics routines into the lithp side. For some reason, the Lisp calls get called twice from the pz event loop. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/636) 05:45 < DarthLappy> Hehe, lithp :P 05:48 < DarthLappy> Yay! I IPL'd my Nano finally 05:55 < DarthLappy> I don't seem to be able to play my music... 05:59 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 06:02 -!- ST|Sabriel [n=ST|Sabri@cpe-66-25-28-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:04 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 06:04 < DarthLappy> Meh, my fault :P 06:04 < Mr_Milenko> its always your fault 06:10 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:11 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:17 < X3|MintyMonkey> anyone here? 06:18 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:19 < aegray> BHSPitMonkey: ping 06:20 < DarthLappy> Mr_Milenko, I know :( 06:24 < aegray> fdsafdsafdsafdsafdsafjdsklafjdslkafjdslakfjdslkafjdslkajfdlksafjdsafdsajfkdsal 06:24 < aegray> whoops 06:24 < aegray> stupid terminal 06:25 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:26 < imphasing> lol.. 06:27 < aegray> its like it won't update until I press a million buttons then sit for 3 minutes 06:27 < aegray> damn lag 06:28 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray_ ] by ChanServ 06:28 -!- Tomm_ [n=linuxker@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["leaving"] 06:28 < aegray_> damn straight 06:28 -!- aegray_ is now known as aegray 06:29 -!- miekhunt [n=sensei_0@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:29 < aegray> woh... http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5258 06:38 < tcrab> yea... 06:41 -!- amonkey [n=amonkey@cpe-67-10-75-70.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ipodlinux 06:42 < amonkey> Anyone home? 06:43 < imphasing> no. 06:43 < amonkey> clever 06:43 < imphasing> I know, right? 06:43 < imphasing> It took me a while to think of that one. 06:43 -!- ST|Sabriel [n=ST|Sabri@cpe-66-25-28-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:44 < amonkey> i noticed 06:44 -!- linuxkernal [n=linuxker@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:44 < aegray> NO 06:44 < iplbot> No. 06:45 < aegray> `echo me 06:45 < aegray> hello 06:45 < aegray> `echo is shutup 06:45 < aegray> `echo 06:45 < aegray> :) 06:45 -!- bushblowz [n=sensei_0@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:45 < josh_> aegray: now whenever the person named "is" sends it something, the person named "shutup" gets it 06:45 < aegray> hehe 06:45 < josh_> however, the handler for that isn't in the privmsg code, so it'll only work if "is" is a channel 06:46 < josh_> but 06:46 < josh_> `echo #ipodlinux josh_ 06:46 < josh_> hello 06:46 < josh_> works 06:46 < josh_> 22:46 < josh_> hello 06:46 < josh_> 22:46 < josh_> works 06:46 < josh_> `unecho 06:46 < josh_> `echo #ipodlinux #ipodlinux 06:46 < josh_> :-) 06:46 < iplbot> < josh_> :-) 06:46 < josh_> `unecho 06:46 < iplbot> < josh_> `unecho 06:47 < amonkey> what's the proper way to eject from linux? on the linux install wiki it says unload the firewire driver, but i'm on usb 06:48 < aegray> unmount 06:48 < aegray> then you can try eject /dev/whatever 06:48 < aegray> but it doesn't work on a lot of systems 06:48 < aegray> just unplug 06:48 < amonkey> seems so dirty 06:48 < amonkey> but so is most of linux 06:48 < DarthLappy> The touchpad is so fiddly 06:48 < DarthLappy> :/ 06:58 -!- miekhunt [n=sensei_0@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:06 -!- shadax [n=shadax@str-7200-bvi-12.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:16 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-90-79.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:17 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-90-79.dialup.clear.net.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-90-79.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:24 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-166-79.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 07:25 -!- amonkey [n=amonkey@cpe-67-10-75-70.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:31 < Niles> hello 07:31 < aegray> hello 07:31 < Niles> coincedince 07:32 < aegray> hrm? 07:32 < Niles> want to hear a sad story? 07:32 < aegray> sure 07:32 < Niles> I bough an iPod mini off trade me for $300, trademe i9s like ebay but in new zealand. 07:32 -!- Vanquish2r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-38.s38.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:32 < Niles> and my dad paid for it and i was going to pay him back 07:33 < Niles> and i had 275 bucks in my wallet 07:33 < Niles> and then my money went missing 07:33 < Niles> lifes a bitch 07:33 < aegray> spend it on drugs? 07:33 < Niles> nope 07:33 < aegray> in a trippy haze? 07:33 < Niles> i actually lost it 07:33 < Niles> or it got stolen 07:33 < aegray> not good 07:33 < Niles> im 14 07:33 < aegray> don't do drugs 07:33 < aegray> drugs are bafd 07:33 < aegray> bad* 07:34 < Niles> mmmkay 07:34 < aegray> damn right 07:35 < Niles> anyway, i have a choice, either sell my iPod when it arrives and loose 300 bucks out of it, or pay my parents again and pay 600 bucks for an iPod mini 07:35 < Niles> or i meet bill gates in this chat room 07:35 < Niles> and he gives me 5 billion because he feels sorry for me 07:35 < Niles> does anyone have his email address???? 07:35 < aegray> bgates@microsoft.com 07:35 < aegray> or bill.gates@microsoft.com 07:35 < Niles> w00t 07:36 < Niles> which one? 07:36 < Niles> lol, im not that naive 07:36 < aegray> don't remember which 07:36 < aegray> they changed over their system about two years ago 07:36 < Niles> it b.gates 07:37 < Niles> ive played him on xbox live ^_^ 07:37 < aegray> i doubt that 07:37 < aegray> severly 07:37 < Niles> and i gave him my number... 07:37 < aegray> severely 07:37 < Niles> but he never called 07:37 < aegray> trying to get a date? 07:37 < aegray> awe 07:38 < Niles> it was 555-DATE-BILL 07:39 < Niles> want to read a sad story that i wrote on my blog? 07:39 < aegray> link 07:39 < Niles> http://gilest.blogspot.com/2006/01/telecom-broadband-blues.html 07:39 < Niles> http://gilest.blogspot.com/ 07:40 < Niles> i know where you liveeeee 07:40 < aegray> me? 07:40 < aegray> where 07:40 < Niles> wait 07:41 < Niles> fucking dialup 07:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:42 < Niles> found you 07:42 < Niles> using linux, you little beuty 07:42 < Niles> VISITOR ANALYSIS 07:42 < Niles> Referring Link No referring link 07:42 < Niles> Host Name d154-5-166-128.bchsia.telus.net 07:42 < Niles> IP Address 154.5.166.128 07:42 < Niles> Country Canada 07:42 < Niles> Region British Columbia 07:42 < Niles> City Vancouver 07:42 < Niles> ISP Telus Corporation 07:42 < Niles> Returning Visits 0 07:42 < Niles> Visit Length 0 seconds 07:42 < aegray> thats not right 07:42 < aegray> sorry 07:42 < Niles> VISITOR SYSTEM SPECS 07:42 < Niles> Browser Firefox 1.0 07:42 < aegray> not even close 07:42 < Niles> Operating System Linux 07:42 < Niles> Resolution 1280x1024 07:42 < Niles> Javascript Enabled 07:42 < Niles> Resolution 1280x1024 07:42 < aegray> so far off 07:42 < Niles> Javascript Enabled 07:42 < Niles> must have been a /.er 07:43 < BleuLlama> Niles: quit it 07:43 < aegray> /.er? 07:43 < aegray> i doubt you got slashdotted 07:43 < Niles> was it USA with linux? 07:43 < aegray> maybe 07:43 < Niles> Gurnee, Illinos 07:43 < aegray> you realize a /whois aegray would have given you the same thing 07:43 < Niles> shitty 07:44 < Niles> i felt special 07:44 -!- Vanquish1r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-164.s164.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:44 < Niles> anyway, did you like my blog 07:45 < Niles> some random canadian who also has linux clicked that link 07:45 < aegray> anyone on a 4g wanna test me a kernel? 07:46 < Niles> they can't hear you 07:46 < aegray> huh? 07:47 < Niles> im going to leave now 07:47 < aegray> have fun with that 07:47 < Niles> ill make it interesting 07:47 < aegray> ok... 07:47 < Niles> cock shit arse tits tampon bitch retard fat turd with cancer 07:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=iMac@*.dialup.clear.net.nz ] by aegray 07:47 -!- Niles was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray [aegray] 07:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=iMac@*.dialup.clear.net.nz ] by aegray 07:49 < aegray> anyone? test a kernel? 07:49 < josh_> what kind of 4g? 07:49 < aegray> anykind that has the same audio scheme as the photo 07:49 < josh_> only have a b&w one 07:49 < aegray> perfect :) 07:49 < aegray> i think 07:50 < josh_> ok, what should I be expecting? 07:50 < aegray> http://www.aegray.com/web/linux.bin 07:50 < aegray> messed up audio 07:50 < aegray> but... 07:50 < aegray> if i can get something to go from the command line and try to play audio that'd be good 07:50 < aegray> because then you could see the printks 07:50 < aegray> lemme see if i can whip something up 07:51 < josh_> ok, that's good, since I don't have any audio-playing pz's :-) 07:51 < aegray> hehe 07:52 < aegray> O_WRONLY = 1 right? 07:58 < josh_> yeah 07:58 < josh_> O_RDONLY = 0, O_RDWR = 2 08:01 < aegray> void * p; 08:01 < aegray> p += 3; 08:01 < aegray> is that valid? 08:01 -!- tcrab [n=tcrab1@68-88-58-19.ded.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:01 < aegray> nm i'll figure it out 08:01 < josh_> no, it isn't 08:01 < josh_> char *q = (char *)p; 08:02 < josh_> q += 3; 08:02 < aegray> hrmmmmm 08:02 < josh_> p = (void *)q; 08:02 < aegray> its in podzilla :O 08:02 < josh_> where? 08:02 < aegray> oss.c 08:02 < josh_> hah, wow. 08:02 < aegray> 109-115 08:02 < aegray> didn't think you could do that 08:09 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:11 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 08:16 < aegray> josh_: still ehre? 08:16 < aegray> here* 08:18 -!- j\k [n=UNIX@71.160.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:19 < aegray> hrm... 08:19 < josh_> yep 08:19 < aegray> can you look at this for me and tell me if anything seems wrong? 08:19 < josh_> sorry, I have a qt API reference open and it's covering the irc window. 08:19 < josh_> sure 08:19 < josh_> link? 08:19 < aegray> http://www.aegray.com/web/play.c 08:19 < aegray> its getting fd fine 08:19 < aegray> but printing errno = 9 08:19 < aegray> bad file descriptor 08:19 < aegray> :( 08:20 < josh_> I think you need O_RDWR for most ioctls 08:20 < josh_> bad file descriptor can also mean "not open for the right mode" 08:20 < josh_> besides, why use the constant - why not just say O_RDWR or O_WRONLY or whatever? 08:20 < aegray> i didn't have the include before 08:20 < josh_> ah 08:20 < josh_> change that to O_RDWR, see if it works. 08:21 < aegray> nope 08:21 < aegray> :/ 08:21 < josh_> hrm, idk then. 08:21 < josh_> nothing looks wrong to me 08:21 < josh_> are you doing this on iPod or desktop? 08:21 < aegray> desktop 08:22 < josh_> do you have perms on the audio dev? 08:22 < BleuLlama> okay. time for me to go to sleep 08:22 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ (5 files): Most graphics routines working. (try loading "sample01.lsp" via the browser.) (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/637) 08:22 < BleuLlama> night all 08:22 < aegray> would it matter if i don't ahve oss emulation compiled in ? 08:23 < aegray> night bleu 08:23 < josh_> aegray: idk... don't think so 08:23 < josh_> what call is failing? 08:24 < aegray> write 08:24 < josh_> the ioctl is working? 08:24 < aegray> yea... 08:24 < aegray> hold on heres something... 08:25 < aegray> oh nm 08:25 < aegray> <--- idjut 08:25 < josh_> fread(buffer, sizeof(buffer[0]), sizeof(buffer), f) will read too much when buffer is anything but char* 08:25 < aegray> yea 08:25 < aegray> just realized that 08:26 < josh_> replace sizeof(buffer[0]) with 1 or replace sizeof(buffer) with sizeof(buffer)/sizeof(buffer[0]) 08:26 < aegray> just did 08:28 < aegray> eh good eough 08:28 < aegray> enough* 08:28 < josh_> work now>? 08:29 < josh_> `todos for me 08:29 < iplbot> Your issues: (#11) hd<->ttk integration, (#13) gradient bar thing, (#16) document ttk's HD and C++ stuff, (#17) make a clone wrapper module, (#21) module management thingy, ... 08:29 < aegray> http://www.aegray.com/web/play 08:29 < aegray> put that on your ipod 08:29 < aegray> in rc 08:29 < aegray> /path/to/play somewavfile 08:29 < aegray> after: 08:29 < aegray> sleep someamount 08:29 < aegray> see what gets printed 08:29 < josh_> should I try it on a 5g too? 08:29 < aegray> no probably not 08:29 < josh_> (not with that kernel, just to test audio on 5g) 08:29 < aegray> audio isn't the same on 5g 08:29 < aegray> this isn't to test audio mostly 08:30 < aegray> kinda/not really' 08:30 < aegray> if it plays anything, it will play a clicking over and over again 08:30 < josh_> do I even need to specify a wav? 08:30 < aegray> yea 08:30 < josh_> does the actual wav matter? 08:30 < aegray> i can change that if you want 08:30 < aegray> no 08:30 < josh_> can I do /dev/null? :_) 08:30 < aegray> it just eeds a file to read and play 08:30 < aegray> sure 08:30 < josh_> drat, your linux.bin is frozen at the very end 08:30 < aegray> do /dev/random 08:31 < aegray> frozen? 08:31 < josh_> 99% [++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ] 1,637,688 --.--K/s 08:31 < aegray> hehe 08:31 < aegray> restart 08:31 < josh_> I did. Twice. 08:31 < josh_> how big is it? 08:31 < aegray> wtf 08:31 < aegray> 1612kb 08:31 < josh_> bytes? 08:31 < aegray> aegray@aegray.com's password: 08:31 < aegray> Image 100% 1612KB 52.0KB/s 00:31 08:32 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dl % du -sk linux.bin 08:32 < josh_> 1600 linux.bin 08:32 < josh_> !good 08:32 < josh_> oh well :-( 08:32 < aegray> ipodlinux.sf.net/linux.bin 08:32 < aegray> not yet 08:33 < aegray> and....... 08:33 < aegray> now! 08:34 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:34 < aegray> heh alias rm="rm -i" 08:34 < aegray> safety first 08:35 < josh_> testing... 08:36 < josh_> (I used /dev/zero) 08:36 < josh_> Wrote 8192 bytes 08:36 < aegray> k 08:36 < josh_> nine times 08:36 < josh_> right after one another 08:36 < josh_> then freezes 08:36 < aegray> freezes? 08:36 < aegray> :) 08:36 < josh_> (I had an echo ---------- after the command and it didn't get there.) 08:36 < aegray> any sound coming out of headphones? 08:36 < josh_> ah, didn't check that. 08:36 * josh_ DOH. 08:37 < aegray> no prob 08:37 < aegray> i don't think there will be anything 08:37 < aegray> something should be printing if printk echoes on terminal 08:37 < aegray> oh i didn't do KERN_ERR 08:37 < aegray> doh 08:38 < josh_> nothing in headphones, but it *is* /dev/zero... 08:38 < aegray> i don't think it matters 08:38 < aegray> does KERN_ERR get echoed on desktop? 08:38 < aegray> onn terminal* 08:38 < josh_> just use "<0>" 08:38 < josh_> e.g. printk("<0>my message\n"); 08:38 < aegray> from the kernel? 08:39 < josh_> that corresponds to KERN_CRIT I think, it's what I used debugging podfs 08:40 < aegray> ok jas 08:40 -!- Tomm_ is now known as linuxkernel 08:41 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 < Ramzi22> hmm im trying to make a backup of my ipod with dd in linux and it doesnt seem to be working, i backed up the MBR, withh dd /dev/sda, and i can mount and view my files on /dev/sda2 but when i try and dd /dev/sda1 i get this error "dd: opening '/dev/sda1': No such file or directory" 08:43 < aegray> josh_: ipodlinux.sf.net/linux.bin.gz 08:43 < aegray> should at least print something... 08:44 < aegray> Ramzi22: just a sec 08:44 < josh_> Setting up transfer 08:44 < josh_> 08:44 < josh_> Enabled transfer 08:44 < josh_> then 9x "Wrote 8192 bytes" 08:45 < aegray> damnit 08:45 < aegray> k 08:45 < Kingstone> does ipodlinux write anything in the MBR? change it? 08:46 < Kingstone> i mean you can see the files which are in fat32 08:46 < Kingstone> so does it have a linux partition still? 08:47 < aegray> Ramzi22: oh same problem from before? 08:47 < aegray> sfdisk didn't work? 08:47 < aegray> Kingstone: yes it has to 08:48 < aegray> i don't understand your second and third question 08:48 < Kingstone> cause if i go into diskmode 08:48 < Kingstone> i can move files from windows 08:48 < Kingstone> to the ipod 08:48 < Ramzi22> sfdisk nidnt work 08:48 < Kingstone> on fat32.. 08:48 < Kingstone> and ipl can read those files 08:48 < aegray> ok..? 08:48 < Ramzi22> --change-id to 1 1 08:49 < Kingstone> so it supports also fat32 08:49 < aegray> Ramzi22: my only other suggestion is to recompile kernel with empty partition support 08:49 < Ramzi22> its strange, how fdisk -l shows /dev/sda1 08:49 < aegray> ipl supports fat32 yes 08:49 < aegray> Ramzi22: yes - its there 08:49 < Ramzi22> if i actually go to the /dev/ folder, sda1 doesnt exist 08:49 < aegray> exactly 08:49 < aegray> its a kernel optoin 08:49 < aegray> optoin 08:49 < aegray> damnit 08:49 < aegray> option 08:49 < aegray> you could also... 08:49 < aegray> fdisk 08:49 < aegray> change type to something else 08:50 < aegray> 83 say 08:50 < aegray> dd it 08:50 < aegray> then change it back 08:51 < Ramzi22> with fdisk or sfdisk? 08:51 < aegray> fdisk 08:51 < aegray> josh_: http://www.aegray.com/web/testsound if you will 08:51 * aegray knows that works 08:51 < aegray> hopefully :/ 08:52 < josh_> is that a kernel or an app? 08:52 < aegray> app 08:52 < josh_> same kernel? 08:52 < aegray> might want to try that with a base kernel 08:52 < aegray> actually 08:53 < aegray> its fine 08:53 < aegray> just try it with whatever kernels on there right now 08:53 < aegray> listen to headphones though 08:53 < aegray> whoops 08:53 < aegray> and have a wav file /vidtest.wav 08:53 < aegray> i can change that if you like 08:53 < Kingstone> what are you testing guys? 08:53 < Ramzi22> so do like fdisk /dev/sda, then select t for change syustem id, select partition number 1 and then use hex code 83? 08:54 < aegray> sound stuff 08:54 < josh_> aegray: that's fine, but I'm reeeeally tired now and I'm going to bed :-) I'll do it tomorrow. 08:54 < aegray> Ramzi22: try it 08:54 * josh_ away... zzzzz.... 08:54 < aegray> josh_: k cool. thanks 08:54 < Ramzi22> then copy os partition, then set back to 0 (Empty) 08:54 < aegray> anyone else with a 4g wana help? 08:54 * Kingstone is up, morning all :) 08:54 < aegray> Ramzi22: sure 08:54 < aegray> you might have to unplug it then replug it 08:54 < aegray> but if it sees 83 as the type it should create a partition for it 08:54 < aegray> anyonne with 4g? 08:55 < Kingstone> not me 08:55 < Kingstone> i have my old mini 2g 08:55 < aegray> that might be ok 08:55 < aegray> wanna try and see? 08:55 < Kingstone> try what? 08:55 < aegray> are you on linux btw? 08:55 < aegray> erm 08:55 < aegray> it doesn't matter 08:55 < Ramzi22> hey i think its working 08:55 < aegray> just a little program 08:56 < Kingstone> doesn't matter what? 08:56 < aegray> doesn't matter if your on linux or not 08:56 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 08:57 < aegray> if you can get that bin from the link i gave josh and put it, and a file vidtest.wav in root of linux drive 08:57 < aegray> i can change that if needed 08:59 < Kingstone> i don't have linux installed 08:59 < Kingstone> atm 08:59 < aegray> k 08:59 < Kingstone> cause i made changes to the firmware myself 08:59 < Kingstone> but if i still can 08:59 < Kingstone> tell me what to do 09:00 < Kingstone> down,oaded that file 09:00 < aegray> copy it to ipod 09:00 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:00 < Kingstone> sec 09:00 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:01 < aegray> put a wav file on the ipod (one that has sound at the start) 09:01 < aegray> at the very start 09:01 < aegray> or i can give you a new binary 09:02 < aegray> same link...new bin 09:02 < aegray> download that and run it 09:02 < Kingstone> hmm can you give me a wav file? 09:02 < Kingstone> what is the link? 09:03 < Kingstone> oh 09:03 < aegray> http://www.aegray.com/web/testsound 09:03 < Kingstone> so you want me to run it? 09:03 < Kingstone> from the root of the ipod? 09:03 < aegray> wherever you put it 09:04 < Kingstone> sec then 09:05 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:05 < Kingstone> what does it suppose to do? 09:06 < aegray> put on your headphones and should repeat some random noises 09:06 < Kingstone> oh 09:06 < aegray> does it? 09:06 < Kingstone> sec 09:06 < Kingstone> i'll put them now 09:07 < Kingstone> do you have the source maybe? 09:07 < Kingstone> that i can compile 09:07 < Kingstone> for this binary 09:07 < aegray> whys that? 09:07 < Kingstone> cause i'm not on linux atm.. 09:07 < Kingstone> and i ran it from cygwin 09:07 < Kingstone> but it doesn't really work.. 09:07 < aegray> its not something for your desktop 09:07 < aegray> its to copy to the ipod 09:07 < aegray> i can test desktop stuff fine 09:07 < Kingstone> it's on the ipod.. 09:07 < aegray> i dont' have an ipod 09:08 < aegray> it doesn't work on ipod? 09:08 < Kingstone> but you said i didn't need linux.. 09:08 < Kingstone> on my ipod 09:08 < aegray> i meant on your pc 09:08 < Kingstone> how would it run it then? 09:08 < aegray> to transfer stuff 09:08 < aegray> exactly 09:08 < Kingstone> oh... 09:08 < aegray> you need linux on ipod 09:08 < aegray> sorry 09:08 < Kingstone> i don't have linux atm on my ipod.. 09:08 < aegray> k 09:08 < Kingstone> that's what i said earlier hmmz 09:09 < aegray> i thought you were putting it on for some reason 09:09 < Kingstone> just curious what are you testing? mp3 output is working.. wav support isn't? i thought it was 09:10 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-228-1.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:10 < aegray> i'm working on something new - rewriting the sound backend 09:10 < Kingstone> oh 09:10 < Kingstone> cool 09:11 < aegray> sleep 09:12 < Kingstone> k 09:12 < Kingstone> bye 09:21 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:23 < Ramzi22> aegray you around? 09:25 < aegray> kinda 09:25 < aegray> only when you beep me (say my name) 09:25 < Kingstone> go to sleep.. you need some rest ;p 09:27 -!- bhav [n=max@61.95.147.26] has joined #ipodlinux 09:27 < bhav> hi ppl 09:27 < aegray> halo 09:27 < bhav> my Ipod only shows aple logo 09:27 < bhav> what to do 09:27 < bhav> nothing else happens :( 09:27 < aegray> `diskmode 09:27 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center [from aegray] 09:27 < aegray> `reboot 09:27 < iplbot> reboot is flip hold switch on and then back off, then hold these buttons for at least ten seconds: <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from aegray] 09:27 < aegray> goodnight 09:28 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-228-1.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:28 < bhav> aegray, i have nano 09:28 < aegray> and...? 09:28 < bhav> which is mine 3g or 4g? 09:28 < aegray> like i just said 09:28 < aegray> 4g 09:28 < bhav> k 09:29 < bhav> how to reboot 09:29 < bhav> the logo does not lets me do anything 09:29 < aegray> ^ 09:29 < aegray> reboot - right when lcd turns off, do diskmode combo 09:30 < bhav> i just see the apple logo, i pressed the play button, long time, it does not reboots 09:30 < bhav> am i doing it right? 09:30 < aegray> menu and center to reboot - hold it - right when lcd turns off, press and hold center and play 09:31 < aegray> thats all i'm saying - try it till it works 09:31 < aegray> goodnight 09:31 < bhav> yea rebooted ;) 09:31 < bhav> ah!. 09:32 < bhav> lol, i think i need to RTFM, my apple firmware jsut got booted 09:32 < bhav> aegray, sorry if i annoyed you :< 09:39 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:40 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 09:43 < Kingstone> any dev guys here? 09:44 < Kingstone> i might wonder if you know, how does the ipod know if to be mounted or not on plugging? 09:44 < Kingstone> cause you can do enable disk use in itunes and it will auto mount 09:44 < Lex> because windows asks what device it is 09:44 < Kingstone> what does it mean what device is it? 09:45 < Kingstone> it's the same device all the time 09:45 < Kingstone> isn't it? 09:45 < Lex> no but 09:45 < Lex> when you plug your ipod into your pc 09:45 < Lex> so you use windows? 09:45 < Lex> windows automounts it 09:45 < Kingstone> yes 09:45 < Lex> linux doesn't 09:45 < Kingstone> not all the time.. 09:45 < Kingstone> if you untick the enable disk use 09:45 < Kingstone> in itunes 09:45 < Kingstone> it won't auto mount.. 09:46 < Lex> automounts with my win2k 09:46 < Kingstone> so check in itunesa 09:46 < Kingstone> edit->preferences, ipod tab 09:46 < Kingstone> and see you have either manual sync or the enable disk use is ticked 09:46 < Lex> yeah but i can use with explorer when i plug it 09:46 < Kingstone> so if you untick that 09:46 < Kingstone> it won't auto mount 09:46 < Lex> and i don't sync it with itunes.. 09:47 < Lex> i use gtkpod 09:47 < Lex> on linux 09:47 < Kingstone> well still there is something 09:47 < Kingstone> that decides if it auto mounts on windows/mac 09:47 < Lex> but ipod doesn't tell does it want to be mounted, your windows defines it 09:48 < Kingstone> so it has to be something with registry maybe.. 09:48 < Kingstone> well thx man, i got to go 09:48 < Lex> yea yeaa 09:48 < Lex> but i use linux primary 09:51 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:51 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 09:51 < fxb> hiho 09:51 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:52 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:53 < fxb> -.- 09:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 09:59 -!- SereR0KR [n=Fletcher@Fcea5.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:59 -!- max_ [i=max@61.95.147.26] has joined #ipodlinux 09:59 -!- guest [n=UNIX@211.4.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:14 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:15 -!- bhav [n=max@61.95.147.26] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:20 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:20 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:20 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 10:23 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=shiinto@pD951B879.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 -!- max_ [i=max@61.95.147.26] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:52 < DarthLappy> Hmmm...I need arm-elf-gcc 11:08 < DarthLappy> Is there any way to make my nano's wheel less sensitive? It seems to jump around alot 11:10 < DarthLappy> Nevermind :) 11:20 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:21 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:22 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:23 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 11:53 -!- patch6 [n=dodo@d154-5-166-128.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:58 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:58 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 12:07 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-228-1.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:17 -!- bhav [i=max@61.95.147.26] has joined #ipodlinux 12:17 < bhav> hi all again 12:18 < bhav> can i format the sda2 ? 12:18 < bhav> actually i did it already, and now i am not able to restore my ipod 12:18 < bhav> any ideas ? 12:18 < bhav> please help 12:19 < bhav> i am using ipod nano 2gb 12:21 -!- bhav [i=max@61.95.147.26] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 12:22 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:22 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:22 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- bhav [n=max@61.95.147.26] has joined #ipodlinux 12:35 < bhav> back ;) 12:36 < bhav> gtkpod saved my day ;) 12:39 -!- fxb [n=felixbru@p548FF9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:39 < bhav> can someone help me put linux on nano? 12:42 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:42 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 12:43 -!- bhav [n=max@61.95.147.26] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:47 -!- bhav [i=bhav@61.95.147.26] has joined #ipodlinux 12:47 < bhav> :-/ 12:49 < bhav> Yes, you screwed up your nano; apparently you can't read or press buttons correctly. Nice job.m w00w, i am doing nice job ;) 12:51 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@208-58-242-36.s36.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:56 < DarthLappy> bhav, Get it done? 12:56 < DarthLappy> It's very easy 12:57 < bhav> still i can partition the thing 12:57 < bhav> ;) 12:57 < bhav> it shows me weired things 12:57 < bhav> like www.apple.com/ipod/support 12:57 < bhav> heh 12:58 < bhav> no my partitions are screwed up 12:58 < bhav> can some one give me a dump of nano partition table 12:58 < bhav> fdisk -l thing i want 12:59 < bhav> 2gb 13:01 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:03 -!- Rune [n=Amir@line152.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ipodlinux 13:05 < bhav> www.apple.com/ipod/support 13:05 < bhav> did i really do bad things to my iPod :?? 13:08 < coob> put it in diskmode 13:08 < coob> and restore from a windows pc or a mac 13:08 < coob> `disk mode 13:08 < iplbot> I assume you meant diskmode. diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: play+center [from coob] 13:09 < ShiintoRyuu> 'diskmode 13:09 < ShiintoRyuu> I dont know where the other ' is :/ 13:10 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:10 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 13:13 < bhav> ok 13:13 < bhav> its going on 13:13 < bhav> it will go back to its orig state now :/ 13:13 < bhav> but i need linux onto it 13:15 < bhav> the windows installer does not works well on nano 2GB 13:15 -!- Vanquish2r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-38.s38.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:15 < ShiintoRyuu> I tried the normal manual on the nano of a friend 13:15 < ShiintoRyuu> it worked fine o.=.o 13:15 < bhav> can you give it to me 13:16 < ShiintoRyuu> http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 13:16 < bhav> i tried that 13:17 < bhav> but i am not takin out the partition from sda1 13:17 < bhav> but i am taking it out from sda2 13:18 < bhav> lemme try again 13:19 < ShiintoRyuu> the firmware-new nano has sda1(not accessable, apple firmware) and sda2(storage accessable trough usb) o.=.o and the manual shows howto re-create sda1 into a smaller sda1 and a sda3, right? 13:20 < bhav> yes 13:22 < ShiintoRyuu> so.. and what went wrong? 13:23 < bhav> the firmware didnt booted 13:23 < bhav> i am trying again, maybe i screwed something else 13:23 < ShiintoRyuu> you extracted it with make_fw, and put the kernel into it?? 13:24 < bhav> i am using ipodloadercvs.tar.gz 13:24 < bhav> for nano 13:27 < ShiintoRyuu> uhm.. I guess I used an older one, want mine? 13:27 < bhav> yea sure 13:27 -!- blade_ [n=blade@toronto-HSE-ppp4190561.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 13:27 < blade_> hi 13:27 < bhav> hi 13:27 < blade_> is the nano supported 13:27 < blade_> the 2g nano 13:27 < bhav> eek! 13:27 < blade_> ? 13:27 < bhav> welcome to the brigade 13:27 < bhav> i am also trying to find out ;) 13:27 < ShiintoRyuu> blade_: guess not 13:28 < ShiintoRyuu> but maybe some people will help :) 13:28 < blade_> ok 13:29 < ShiintoRyuu> bhav: the loader.bin is part of it, right? 13:29 < blade_> i am looking on the wiki page but i cant find any page that describe in details the porting process 13:29 < blade_> technical detaisl i mean 13:29 < blade_> is there any 13:30 < blade_> i am interresting in porting linux on other arch so i am looking for information 13:31 < bhav> yea ShiintoRyuu 13:31 < DarthLappy> I have installed on my 2GB nano, works fine, from Linux 13:32 < blade_> DarthLappy, what u do with linux on ur ipod 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yeah i did that 19:44 < Derek_> i turned it up in the AppleOS but it didnt stay that way in the LinuxOS 19:45 -!- joshn_454 [n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 19:46 < Derek_> iPL-SVN i have no idea where to put those files 19:51 < Derek_> will anyone pm me to find the problem? 19:54 < coob> wtf 19:54 < coob> thats a bot that tracks changes, it wasn't talking to you. 19:55 < coob> the problem is you need to turn up the ocntrast in podzilla 19:55 < coob> navigate using what you can see 19:58 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:58 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 19:58 < guest> Derek_ 19:58 < guest> 17. If your screen is extremely dark, but you can still hear clicks. 19:58 < guest> You will need to fix the contrast. Starting from the top, go DOWN 2 CLICKS. 19:58 < guest> push the middle button, then DOWN 5 CLICKS, push middle button. 19:58 < guest> Now adjust the contrast, and ENJOY! 19:59 < guest> [from the floydzillas site] 19:59 -!- guest is now known as j0k3r 19:59 < j0k3r> omfg.. registered nick.. 19:59 -!- j0k3r is now known as j0k3r-01 19:59 < Derek_> thanks guest 19:59 < BleuLlama> or just press and hold the action button for ~60 seconds 20:02 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-125-202.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:03 -!- joshn_454 [n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 20:08 < Derek_> that isnt working 20:13 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-186-215-125.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 < BleuLlama> install the nightlies, and it will. :) 20:22 < aegray> hold menu 20:26 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20:26 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:26 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:26 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:29 -!- predius__ [n=foo@predius.org] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:31 < predius__> good way to restore factory settings? 20:32 -!- predius__ is now known as predius_ 20:33 -!- mc_365 [i=mc_365@pool-70-23-185-175.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 < mc_365> hello all 20:35 < aegray> hi 20:35 < mc_365> I have the opertunity to get a 3G iPod used today at a good price, what is the status of gapless mp3? 20:35 < mc_365> I see some say it works other say no 20:36 < aegray> mpd works - but on 3g some things aren't realtime 20:36 < mc_365> so mp3 plays in slow motion but gapless 20:36 < aegray> haha i guess 20:37 < aegray> 3g probably isn't the best thing to get at this point 20:37 < mc_365> well there is no 4G support yet correct? 20:37 < aegray> it works - we just dont "officially" support it 20:37 < BleuLlama> 3g battery lasts super short under ipl 20:37 < aegray> works much better than 3g actually 20:38 < mc_365> So why support the more buggy rather than 4G 20:38 < aegray> because there was already "support" there 20:38 < aegray> and the installer for the 3g actually works without any modification 20:39 < aegray> 4g you have to change some files in order to use the istaller 20:39 < aegray> installer* 20:39 < mc_365> so you guys don't what to answer the same installer questions over and over 20:39 < aegray> basically 20:40 < mc_365> Can the install be done from windows or is this only from a linux dist 20:42 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ (5 files): Got more of the startup time stuff nailed down. There are two init functions. sample01.lsp explains them better. (better documentation to come soon.) (instead of OnInit it uses OnStartup and OnPreFlight) The built-in example (stuff/lithp demo) does more (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/639) 20:42 * BleuLlama afk. lithp is just about done for the initial verison 20:43 < mc_365> I realy like the iPod egronomics but gapless is a must for me. 20:44 < BleuLlama> bummer. 20:44 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20:44 < mc_365> The karma is too risky at this point being discontinued and ony refurbs avail. 20:44 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:44 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:45 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:45 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 20:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:56 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 20:56 < X3|MintyMonkey> anyone know where i can get themes for ipodlinux? 20:56 < X3|MintyMonkey> ive heard of them before 20:56 < aegray> joshn_454: you get that last message? 20:57 < joshn_454> y, tx 20:57 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:57 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 < joshn_454> and the first value there (for me, anyway) is 0x3f0, so the code really starts there, correct? 20:58 < aegray> lemme check 20:58 < aegray> 0x3f0? 20:59 < aegray> at 0x200 it should be something like: 7A 00 00 EA 20:59 < aegray> something with EA being a jump 21:00 < joshn_454> hmm 21:00 < MarcoPolo> courtc: any progress for the 5G (please say if i'm boring you with this question) 21:00 < joshn_454> I wonder if objdump is screwing up the output 21:01 < joshn_454> actually, it decodes it as a branch instructions, so that's probably right 21:01 < aegray> yea true 21:01 < aegray> dd if=apple_os.bin of=newstuff bs=1 skip=512 21:02 < aegray> objdump -whatever newstuff 21:02 < joshn_454> btw, is there some port located at 0x60000000 21:02 < joshn_454> ? 21:03 < joshn_454> won't chopping of the first 0x200 bytes mess up addressing for objdump? 21:03 < aegray> no it means making it right - the first jump should be at offset 0x0 21:03 < joshn_454> ah, okay 21:03 < aegray> 0x600000 is the processor id 21:04 < aegray> if it reads that and gets 0x55, its the cpu 21:04 < aegray> otherwise - 0xAA is the cop 21:04 < aegray> it can tell which core its running on 21:04 < joshn_454> hmm 21:05 < joshn_454> okay, then what is the code referencing when it reads for writes from addresses like 0x60006004 21:06 < aegray> bunch of stuff 21:06 < aegray> 0x60006004 controls power/resetting devices I think 21:07 < aegray> iirc 21:07 < joshn_454> that's based on how the devices are connected, correct? 21:07 < aegray> i think 21:07 < joshn_454> ok 21:08 < aegray> for example... 21:08 < aegray> writing a 1 to bit 2 resets the entire system 21:09 < aegray> bbiab shower 21:10 < joshn_454> i.e. *(volatile long*)0x600006004 = 0x2? 21:11 < slowcoder> *(volatile unsigned long*)0x60006004 = *(volatile unsigned long*)0x60006004 | 2; 21:11 < slowcoder> More appropriate 21:11 < joshn_454> sure 21:13 < joshn_454> and 0x70000000 is the i2S stuff, right 21:15 < slowcoder> 0x70002800+ is 21:15 -!- joecool_ is now known as joecool 21:17 < aegray> `wiki pp5020 21:17 < iplbot> pp5020 (http://www.ipodlinux.org/pp5020) [24316 bytes] 21:17 < aegray> :) 21:17 < joshn_454> tx, that's helpful 21:22 < preglow> slowcoder: any news on the 5g? 21:22 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:23 < slowcoder> preglow: Not really 21:24 < preglow> i'm doing to find out about the broadcom chip :/ 21:25 < preglow> s/doing/dying/ 21:25 < preglow> i'm quite the typist today 21:25 < slowcoder> Indeed you are 21:26 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:31 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 21:31 -!- TrisoBoy [n=TrisoBoy@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:36 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:36 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:36 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 21:38 < iPL-SVN> bleullama * tools/podzilla2/modules/lithp/ADDENDUM: Cleaned up this file to make it a little more readable to people who aren't me. 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What the heck can we port?? 21:43 < slowcoder> :) 21:43 < aegray> all those..lisp..games... 21:43 < aegray> hehe 21:43 * aegray goes to learn lisp 21:43 < aegray> erm 21:43 < aegray> lithp 21:43 < BleuLlama> well, you can edit lisp programs using podwrite, and run them immediately if you like 21:43 < preglow> what! 21:43 -!- conorkirk1 [n=conorkir@71-38-149-99.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < BleuLlama> (all on the ipod) 21:43 < aegray> cool! 21:43 < BleuLlama> although the lithp parser needs some more error checking 21:44 < BleuLlama> but, it also means that you can use the lithp engine for AI for games... like... i dunno.. AI for enemies in Vortex 21:44 < BleuLlama> :D 21:44 < aegray> which I assume you're planning on 21:44 < BleuLlama> ayup 21:44 < aegray> hi preglow 21:44 < BleuLlama> i'll probably need to add some more hooks into the lithp engine. 21:45 < BleuLlama> i also need to more fully document some of the idiosynchracies of lithp, and how it differs from Lisp 21:45 < BleuLlama> s/Lisp/Common Lisp/g 21:46 -!- conorkirk1 [n=conorkir@71-38-149-99.ptld.qwest.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:46 -!- X3|MintyMonkey [n=mintymon@c-24-22-178-208.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:49 < aegray> wtf is deer park? 21:52 < BleuLlama> they make spring water? 21:52 -!- Twan35 [i=Twan@c-67-167-248-59.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 < aegray> i upgraded to firefox 1.5a and my browser is named deer park 21:53 < Twan35> Where can I find the current games on my Apple Firmware 21:53 < BleuLlama> strange 21:53 < Twan35> Like Solitaire and things 21:53 < aegray> extras->ggames 21:53 < Twan35> I know that 21:53 < aegray> ok so what are you trying to find out? 21:53 < Twan35> Can't you just add games to that 21:53 < aegray> no 21:53 < Twan35> Like Chess 21:53 < BleuLlama> nope 21:53 < aegray> they are compiled in 21:54 < Twan35> Oh so you'd have to edit the whole firmware?/ 21:54 < aegray> pretty much 21:54 < Twan35> They have some text games out there 21:54 < aegray> or use ipodlinux ;) 21:54 < Twan35> I have a video 21:54 < Twan35> I would if I could 21:54 < aegray> text games = follow links in the note browser 21:54 < BleuLlama> text games are done via "notes" 21:54 < Twan35> Yes 21:54 < Twan35> XO play charges $15 21:54 < Twan35> I wonder if it's worth it 21:54 < aegray> doubt it 21:54 < aegray> its a game where you click links 21:55 < Twan35> ya 21:55 < Twan35> It supposed to be an interesting story 21:55 < Twan35> meh I'm not paying 21:55 < joshn_454> aegray: deer park was the codename for FF 1.5 21:55 < Twan35> So if I put Podzilla onto my 5G would I be able to do anything? 21:55 < aegray> ah ok 21:55 < aegray> it scared me 21:55 < aegray> Twan35: no 21:55 < Twan35> So are there any tweaks for the 5G yet that are actually worth it 21:56 < BleuLlama> this channel pertains to installing/using ipodlinux on your ipod, not hacking the apple firmware, btw. 21:56 -!- bhav [i=bhav@61.95.147.26] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56 < aegray> Twan35: not really 21:56 < Twan35> Not really...meaning there are some but not that good? 21:56 < aegray> kinda 21:57 < Twan35> Like... 21:57 < aegray> ipl 21:57 < Twan35> So I can put ipl on there 21:57 < aegray> you can't 21:57 < aegray> i can 21:57 < aegray> :) 21:57 < Twan35> ...? 21:58 < aegray> i'm special 21:58 < BleuLlama> 5g ipl is *very* experimental, highly unstable, and VERY slow 21:58 * BleuLlama found his thesaurus 21:58 < aegray> hehe 21:58 < Twan35> Is it made in C++? 21:59 < BleuLlama> C 21:59 < BleuLlama> and now, a Lisp variant too! :D 21:59 < aegray> http://www.linuxtoday.com/ 21:59 < aegray> haha 22:00 < Twan35> So why do you think it's not working right 22:03 < Twan35> ? 22:04 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 22:04 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 22:08 < Twan35> Any idea on when ipl for 5G will be ready 22:08 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 < BleuLlama> next May, roughly 22:10 < Twan35> 4 months of 1 year 4 months? 22:10 < BleuLlama> 16 months 22:10 < Twan35> 4 months or** 22:10 < Twan35> Really... 22:10 < Twan35> That's a long time 22:10 < BleuLlama> yup 22:10 < Twan35> Why so long? 22:11 < BleuLlama> 5g is very low priority for us right now. none of the core devs have a 5g, and there's unknown hardware in it, which we don't have specs for 22:11 < BleuLlama> that's a very conservative estimation too. it'll probably be substantially longer, if ever 22:12 < BleuLlama> pay us, and we'll work faster. 22:12 < BleuLlama> as it is, we're working on the bits we want to work on, when we feel like working on them... since we're doing this for fun 22:12 < Twan35> So if you get enough donations, you'll buy 5Gs and work on them faster 22:12 < BleuLlama> perhaps 22:12 < Twan35> I see 22:13 < Twan35> Well I just wanted to get more games on it 22:13 < Twan35> Guess I'll have to wait 22:13 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:13 < Twan35> Can 4Gs play video? 22:13 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 < BleuLlama> we might just use them to play music while we finish working on 4g, mini, 4g color, and all of the other things we've been working on for the past ~2 years 22:13 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 22:13 < BleuLlama> with a nightly kernel and nightly podzilla, sure. 22:13 < Twan35> Ok 22:13 < Twan35> i see 22:13 < aegray> BleuLlama: you have 4g? 22:13 < BleuLlama> but they're unsupported right now, so you're on your own 22:14 < BleuLlama> aegray: yep 22:14 < BleuLlama> no ipl on it though 22:14 < aegray> can you test something quick for me? 22:14 < aegray> damn 22:14 < aegray> nm 22:14 < aegray> anyone with 4g? 22:14 < aegray> 4g anything 22:14 * josh_ back up 22:15 < aegray> hi you lazy bastard 22:15 < aegray> oh i mean hi joshn_454 22:15 < aegray> josh_ 22:15 < aegray> damn 22:15 < BleuLlama> morning, josh_ 22:16 < josh_> morning 22:16 < josh_> aegray: /me != lazy bastard 22:17 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A9355.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 22:17 < aegray> sure sure 22:18 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A9355.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 22:23 < BHSPitMonkey> mornin', josh 22:26 < josh_> morning 22:29 -!- MarcoPolo [n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> aegray: just out of curiosity, what developmental goal were you working towards with that test kernel the other night? 22:30 < josh_> 14:19 < aegray> pm me if you get a chance - i gotta run 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> unless you just wanted to see if you could break my nano 22:30 < josh_> ^ he's not here. 22:30 < BHSPitMonkey> oh... 22:32 < BHSPitMonkey> 16:34 sure sure 22:32 < BHSPitMonkey> what did i miss? :S 22:32 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Oh man."] 22:33 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:36 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-190-199.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has joined #ipodlinux 22:38 < Tranqualizer> does the ipod photo still have the problem where it only shows the arrows on the main menu? 22:38 < Tranqualizer> ipod w/ color display i should say 22:38 < preglow> have any of you guys tried contacting wolfson to see how anal retentive they are with their datasheets? 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> Tranqualizer: i believe so, you can try it and see, and if so use floydzilla instead of podzilla 22:41 < BHSPitMonkey> as it has a "quick-fix" to that problem 22:42 -!- god3 [n=bob@ip30.225.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:42 < BHSPitMonkey> what component is "wolfson" responsible? i thought the big goldmine right now lied with broadcom 22:43 < preglow> the dac 22:43 < god3> how goes compressed video? 22:43 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 22:43 < god3> don't ban me 22:43 < god3> jk 22:44 < BHSPitMonkey> it goes without sound and a picture 22:44 < BHSPitMonkey> but other than that. great 22:45 -!- linuxkernel [n=linuxker@69-172-2-167.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:45 < Twan35> Is editing Apple's firmware for your own iPod illegal? 22:46 < god3> probably not, it is YOUR ipod 22:46 < Twan35> Yes that's what I figured 22:46 < Twan35> It's not like I'm selling the new tricked out Firmware 22:46 < BHSPitMonkey> if you distribute any copyright code, you're breaking the law 22:47 < god3> well that should be self evident 22:47 < BHSPitMonkey> you could legally release a patch, IF it were even possible 22:47 < joshn_454> BHSPitMonkey: have you contacted broadcom about docs? 22:47 < BHSPitMonkey> joshn_454: oh my, no. they probably don't answer very many 16-year-olds about getting spec sheets ;) 22:48 < Twan35> If? 22:48 < Twan35> I see this here hacking the firmware to change graphics 22:48 < preglow> what, you aren't a 35 year old important ceo? 22:48 < preglow> that's what you should have told them 22:48 < joshn_454> and why would they know you're 16? 22:48 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: you can't change any code because we don't know how to decompile it 22:48 < god3> the magic of video phoes 22:48 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: are you referring to iPodWizard? 22:49 < Twan35> Yes 22:49 < god3> it is legal 22:49 < j0k3r-01> yup ^^ 22:49 < god3> at least, how could they prosecute you if it was not? 22:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:49 < Twan35> I want to add more games 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: well you don't release the firmware, you just release the ipodwizard data, and that's very offtopic here 22:49 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 22:49 < Twan35> Apple should release more 22:49 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: offtopic 22:50 < Twan35> Hardly 22:50 < god3> apple isn't goig to though 22:50 < Twan35> Because I can't play Linux on 5G 22:50 < Twan35> Why? 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> because ipodwizard != ipodlinux 22:50 < BHSPitMonkey> go to #ipodwizard then 22:51 < god3> becuase they are most likely working the next ipod generation and they hardly release patches 22:51 < Twan35> What will be in the next gen do you think? 22:51 < Twan35> Radio isn't even needed I don't listen to radio anymore 22:52 < preglow> waiting for manufacturers to release firmware isn't very productive 22:52 < god3> improved video? internet capabilities? phone? 22:52 < BHSPitMonkey> god3: ha 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> patent applications from apple have been discovered for a rda (i think) radio transmitters for the ipod(?) 22:53 < Twan35> It's not even hard to embed more games into the firmware 22:53 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: sure, if you're apple 22:53 < Twan35> Exactly 22:53 < Twan35> It just pleases the customers who dish out $300 for a piece of hardware 22:54 < BHSPitMonkey> the case is, the target of the ipod is to be a quality portable audio player, not another psp 22:54 < god3> but you already dished out $300, what incentive does apple have to give you more stuff? 22:54 < Twan35> Being a good company 22:54 < Twan35> I would even BUY more games 22:54 < Twan35> BHSPitMonkey, if it were both, everyone would get it instead of the PSP 22:55 < Tranqualizer> Damnit 22:55 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: not really, the input device of the ipod isn't very well suited to games. 22:55 < Tranqualizer> I downloaded the windows version! 22:55 < Tranqualizer> lol 22:55 < BHSPitMonkey> it's suited for quick menu navigation 22:55 < Tranqualizer> sry 22:55 < god3> just use linux, it is hard to make games for a computer with a clickwheel 22:56 < Twan35> Hmm...Tetris, Pacman, SMB 22:56 < Twan35> Chess 22:56 < Twan35> Checkers 22:56 < BHSPitMonkey> god3: his whole campaign here is "I can't play linux games on my 5G, so I'll just bitch to their channel about how apple should do better." 22:57 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: you could probably get away with chess and checkers on a 5G 22:57 < Twan35> SMB may be pushing it a little too much, but the speed of your finger on the clickwheel could control Mario 22:57 < Twan35> How? 22:57 < BHSPitMonkey> since it's not an action game 22:57 < BHSPitMonkey> it would still be hard lining up the cursor where you want it to be 22:57 < Twan35> Oh I thought you meant it would be possible to get on 22:57 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: no, i just mean you could play it in linux 22:57 < Twan35> Of course it would be suitable for an iPod 22:58 < Twan35> With 5G? 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> we HAVE chess 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 22:58 < Twan35> I thought Linux doesn't work on 5G.... 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> the 5G problems right now are no sound, and a very slow LCD 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> the lcd is painfully slow 22:58 < Twan35> Does Linux void the warranty 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> but i *think* you can still run podzilla 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: just don't send it back to apple with linux on it 22:58 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 22:59 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm going to say no, since linux won't break anything, and is perfectly easy to remove 23:00 < BHSPitMonkey> Twan35: you will need to be using linux if you want to try to install on your 5G though, and set your expectations at zero 23:00 -!- jboy_144 [i=Jboy@modemcable104.207-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #iPodLinux 23:00 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-90-48.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:00 < Twan35> Not a problem really 23:00 < imphasing> Hm..no highlighting on nvi I see 23:00 < Twan35> But it said somewhere don't complain if we turn your iPod into a brick.... 23:00 < imphasing> not that I actually use it, but it's nice to have colour.. 23:01 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:01 < BHSPitLappy> Twan35: true, but you'd be the first 23:01 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 23:02 < BHSPitMonkey> wb aegray 23:02 < BHSPitMonkey> bbl 23:03 < Twan35> So I can install iPL on my 5G but it won't work that great 23:03 < Twan35> Before installing iPodLinux, make sure your iPod is supported! If you try to install Linux on any of the unsupported iPods, it WILL ruin your iPod. 23:04 < predius_> Twan35: OS? 23:04 < Twan35> I can install Linux on my comp, no problem 23:04 < predius_> k 23:05 < Twan35> There is no documentation on installing 5G onto the iPod 23:05 < Twan35> Installing Linux onto the 5G iPod* 23:05 < predius_> Yep. 23:05 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 23:05 < predius_> You're mostly on your own. 23:05 < predius_> Do document if you manage it. 23:06 -!- Niles [n=iMac@218-101-90-48.dialup.clear.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:07 -!- codenode [n=codenode@c-24-7-112-59.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:07 < Twan35> Adam knows how 23:07 < Twan35> Right? 23:08 < preglow> it's pretty straightforward, i think 23:08 < preglow> same procedure with minor differences 23:09 -!- Alandovos [i=Alandovo@ip68-3-14-34.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:10 < Tranqualizer> I installed Floydzilla, and whenever I run linux on my iPod it gets stuck at the boot screen 23:10 < Tranqualizer> what did I do wrong? 23:11 < j0k3r-01> :I 23:12 < j0k3r-01> what ipod ? 23:12 < Tranqualizer> new photo 23:12 < Tranqualizer> well newish 23:13 < j0k3r-01> LoL dunno.. on my nano it works xD 23:13 < j0k3r-01> try search on the forum 23:13 < Tranqualizer> I already had podzilla on it and I just dragged all the stuff from the floydzilla folder to my iPod like it told me 2 23:14 < Twan35> The hacked 4Gs lag when playing video? 23:14 < j0k3r-01> if you have dragged the start file too 23:15 < j0k3r-01> your ipod has installed it :I 23:15 < j0k3r-01> do you want both podzilla and floydzilla ? 23:15 < Tranqualizer> no 23:15 < Twan35> I need iPL for Podzilla right? 23:15 < Tranqualizer> just floyd 23:15 < j0k3r-01> yes 23:16 < j0k3r-01> Tranqualizer do you have windows ? 23:16 < Tranqualizer> no 23:16 < Tranqualizer> mac 23:18 < j0k3r-01> well.. i dont know.. im on windows and with the install thing from dansfloyd.com it works 23:19 < Tranqualizer> mkay 23:20 < j0k3r-01> Dansfloyd.com is 23:20 < j0k3r-01> UNDER CONSTRUCTION 23:20 < j0k3r-01> Be back online VERY SOON! 23:20 < j0k3r-01> oh.. LoL 23:20 < j0k3r-01> maybe an update with video working.. 23:21 < j0k3r-01> *pray* 23:21 < Twan35> What do you mean video working? 23:21 < BHSPitMonkey> j0k3r-01: exactly WHY are you using floydzilla on a nano?? 23:22 < j0k3r-01> im not using floydzilla 'cose video aren't working 23:22 < BHSPitMonkey> ok, why DID you then 23:22 < j0k3r-01> ^^' 23:22 < j0k3r-01> floydzilla has more thing installed 23:23 < j0k3r-01> like changing fonts, input text, .. 23:23 < BHSPitMonkey> you can do those things in podzilla2 :D 23:23 < BHSPitMonkey> or build pz0 yourself with those features... 23:23 < j0k3r-01> i know ^^ 23:24 -!- Twan35 [i=Twan@c-67-167-248-59.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:24 < j0k3r-01> is the "If you are not very experienced with iPodLinux, we recommend that you use the old version of podzilla for now. PZ2 still has some rough edges." that scared mexD 23:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i use both podzillae on my nano 23:26 < BHSPitMonkey> it isn't as rough anymore 23:27 < j0k3r-01> but what's the difference between pz0 and pz2 practically ? 23:27 < BHSPitMonkey> if i'd have to call the biggest difference, hmm, i'd say modularity 23:28 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:28 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 23:32 < j0k3r-01> eheh.. i'll see tomorrow ^^ 23:32 < j0k3r-01> n8 23:32 -!- j0k3r-01 is now known as j0k3r[ZzZ] 23:33 -!- Alandovos [i=Alandovo@ip68-3-14-34.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 23:34 -!- DarthLappy [n=Darth@202-161-21-45.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:34 < DarthLappy> Morning 23:36 -!- Munin [n=stoner@h60n2fls31o865.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:38 -!- Tranqualizer [n=Tranquil@r-1-pta-p2-m07.mcn.org] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:45 -!- Munin [n=stoner@h60n2fls31o865.telia.com] has quit [] 23:48 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:48 -!- tarpman [i=tarpman@d64-180-41-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:55 -!- omp_ is now known as omp 23:57 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:57 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 23:57 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:57 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-7-198-36.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 00:00 -!- jboy_144 [i=Jboy@modemcable104.207-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Sun Jan 08 00:00:00 2006