--- Log opened Sun Dec 11 00:00:02 2005 00:00 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:00 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 00:05 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:13 -!- Vanquisher is now known as devil 00:16 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:17 < ubermensch> is there anyway to run podzilla from the desktop as it would look on a color-screen ipod? 00:18 < ubermensch> any way* 00:18 < aegray__> yes 00:18 < aegray__> read about building podzilla for the desktop 00:18 < ubermensch> alrighty, didn't remember anything about it in there, thanks 00:21 -!- devil is now known as deadchip 00:22 -!- deadchip [n=Van@208-58-242-234.s234.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:24 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 00:29 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 00:31 < lBox> any dev tools/sdk? 00:32 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:33 < aegray__> for? 00:34 < aegray__> podzilla2 yes 00:34 < aegray__> ipod -> theres a toolchain 00:35 < lBox> any exact url where to download it? 00:35 -!- endupontopolis [n=stevewal@dsl-118-93.srtnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:36 < aegray__> `toolchain 00:36 < aegray__> damn you iplbot 00:36 < aegray__> `wiki toolchain 00:36 < aegray__> wtf 00:37 < endupontopolis> who do i pm for help? 00:37 < aegray__> you don't pm anyone 00:37 < aegray__> you talk in the channel 00:37 < aegray__> hold on lBox 00:37 < aegray__> iplbot, hi 00:37 < aegray__> ohhhhhhhh 00:37 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray_ 00:37 < aegray_> `toolchain 00:37 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. Newer gcc 3.4.3-based toolchain, with locale support, at http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/toolchain/. [from aegray_] 00:38 < aegray_> there you go 00:38 < BHSPitLappy> hah 00:38 < aegray_> `listen aegray__ 00:38 < aegray_> `listen aegray___ 00:38 < endupontopolis> MY ROOMATE SCREWED UP MY IPOD, LOL, I NEED SOME HELP 00:38 < aegray_> damnit 00:38 < aegray_> 1) quiet down with the caps 00:38 < aegray_> 2) how is it screwed up 00:38 < aegray_> ? 00:39 < lBox> thank you much dudes 00:39 < aegray_> np 00:39 < endupontopolis> so me and my roomate play jokes on eachother, so when i was in class today, he had my ipod, downloaded some program onto it, nad now it is wack 00:39 < aegray_> grr 00:39 < aegray_> what does "wack" mean? 00:40 < BamaWOLF> fucked up? 00:40 < endupontopolis> ^^ 00:40 < BamaWOLF> lol 00:40 < endupontopolis> white screen with a folder and a warning sign 00:40 < aegray_> use the apple restore utility 00:41 < endupontopolis> when i connent the ipod to my computer, it doesnt show up either 00:41 < aegray_> put it in diskmode 00:41 < endupontopolis> k 00:41 < aegray_> `wiki key combinations 00:41 < aegray_> wtf iplbot you're killing me 00:41 < aegray_> `diskmode 00:41 < aegray_> `voices 00:41 < aegray_> ? 00:42 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 00:42 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from aegray_] 00:42 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray courtc coob macpod leachbj davidc__ Luke veteran aegray_ BleuLlama aegray__ aegray___ > 00:42 < aegray_> hey there we go 00:42 < aegray_> laggy bastard.... 00:43 < endupontopolis> k its in disk mode...i think....it says FA DIAG Boot on the top of the screen 00:43 < aegray_> i woudl dout that 00:43 < aegray_> it will day do not disconnect 00:43 < aegray_> if its plugged in 00:43 < endupontopolis> that what it says 00:43 < aegray_> if it says do not disconnect then it should be seen by computer 00:44 < aegray_> if not, you're going to have to get a format utility 00:44 < aegray_> what ipod is it? 00:44 < endupontopolis> ipod video 00:44 < endupontopolis> 30gig 00:44 < endupontopolis> windows operating system 00:44 < aegray_> ok - if it can't be seen by the restore utility, get a format utility - from hp possibly 00:44 < aegray_> couldn't have guessed that one 00:45 < ubermensch> =) 00:45 < endupontopolis> hp? 00:45 < aegray_> hp is a company 00:45 < aegray_> they make a usb format utilty 00:45 < aegray_> search the forums 00:47 < endupontopolis> it does says (/) DON NOT DISCONNECT, so it is charging.....but the screen is different form what it used to be, and when i disconnect it, it go es the that white screeen with the warning sign 00:47 < aegray_> yes... 00:47 < aegray_> when it says do not disconnect - is it seen by the restore utility 00:48 < endupontopolis> ok.. 00:48 < ubermensch> just download and run the restore utility from apple 00:48 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:49 < endupontopolis> cna i get a link for the restore utility? 00:49 < aegray_> apple.com 00:49 < lucaas> its in support somewhere 00:50 < aegray_> quoting coob: 00:50 < aegray_> nm 00:50 < endupontopolis> is it the ipod updater? 00:50 < aegray_> yes 00:50 < endupontopolis> k downloading 00:51 * slowcoder goes to bed 00:51 < spazzium> g'night 00:51 < aegray_> nighty night slowcoder 00:52 < endupontopolis> ok the program is installed, i ran it. and a program comes up with two choices ( update ) ( restore ) 00:53 < aegray_> restore 00:53 < spazzium> [19:49] cna i get a link for the restore utility? 00:53 < endupontopolis> but it will not allowo me to click on an option 00:53 < spazzium> you've already answered your own question 00:53 < endupontopolis> it says Plug in an Ipod to update it 00:53 < endupontopolis> but it is plugge dit 00:53 < endupontopolis> in 00:54 < endupontopolis> im gona fucking kill my roomate 00:54 < endupontopolis> j/k 00:54 < endupontopolis> but im pissed 00:55 < aegray_> get the format utility then 00:55 < aegray_> from hp 00:55 -!- wizatcomp [i=wizatcom@pool-162-83-75-214.fred.east.verizon.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 00:55 < aegray_> search the ipodlinux forums 00:56 < endupontopolis> so what exactly des this program do? 00:56 < aegray_> formats it... 00:56 < spazzium> either that or learn how to use linux, where things would be much much easier 00:56 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 00:57 < endupontopolis> dont got linux 00:59 -!- lBox [n=XircUser@213.195.203.138] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:05 < bjt32> it's not too expensive.. heh 01:10 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has joined #ipodlinux 01:13 < bjt32> ay.. kde update on portage.. next update should be fun 01:15 < aegray_> 6 hours of updating? 01:15 < bjt32> yeah, more than likely : ) 01:16 < bjt32> wish I could get standby working... spent a couple hours the other day.. I don't think my bios likes linux much 01:17 < aegray_> yea my kernel crashes with that too 01:17 < bjt32> well.. the odd thing is.. my computer will go into standby 01:17 < bjt32> but when it comes out, it just reboots 01:17 < aegray_> huh 01:17 < bjt32> so.. it could be a bad driver or something I guess 01:17 < aegray_> i just removed any services i don't need started and it boots pretty quickly so I don't need it 01:18 < bjt32> yeah. mine's not too bad 01:18 < bjt32> I need to get it to start x as soon as possible sometime 01:18 < bjt32> I've been just logging in and starting it.. but I almost always do start it 01:19 < bjt32> what irc client do you use? 01:19 < aegray_> xchat 01:19 < bjt32> I haven't been able to find one I really like yet 01:19 < aegray_> sometimes irssi 01:21 < bjt32> yeah.. still trying to get everything like I want it.. just tried going all linux a few months ago 01:21 < bjt32> I still have a windows partition for stuff I need 01:24 * aegray_ <3 vmware 01:25 < bjt32> yeah.. but for games and things 01:25 * BHSPitMonkey <3 large hard drives 01:25 < bjt32> I got cedega, but I have an ati card.. so it's kinda sluggish because of bad drivers 01:25 * aegray_ <3 laptops 01:27 * imphasing &hates; games 01:27 < aegray_> me too! 01:27 < imphasing> woo! 01:27 < bjt32> hah 01:27 < imphasing> I used to be bing into the whole gaming thing, but then I realized it was retarded, and I was wasting my time 01:27 < imphasing> s/bing/big/ 01:27 < bjt32> yeah.. I haven't played much in a while 01:30 < bjt32> I play ddr on occasion 01:30 < bjt32> I look stupid.. but it's fun : ) 01:31 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:33 < bjt32> know what that is? 01:36 < BHSPitMonkey> yes. 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> it would translate great to the ipod 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> PLAY 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> PREV. 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> MENU 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> FORW. 01:37 < BHSPitMonkey> ACTION 01:37 < bjt32> it's better jumping around : ) 01:37 < bjt32> playing now.. actually.. heh 01:38 < BHSPitMonkey> jesus 01:38 < BHSPitMonkey> don't hurt yourself 01:38 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:39 < ubermensch> there's a new kde update? 01:39 < ubermensch> that sucks... just did an emerge -uD world a couple days ago =( 01:39 < bjt32> yeah 01:40 < bjt32> lol. yeah.. I got my modded xbox with stepmania and most every ddr song plus some 01:40 < imphasing> ew, kde 01:40 < bjt32> it's fun 01:40 < imphasing> kde is nasty 01:40 < ubermensch> kde's the fav desktop environment i've tried 01:40 < imphasing> overbloat-- 01:41 < bjt32> gre fonts suck on my laptop 01:41 < ubermensch> yeah................. but some of those bells and whistles are nice ot have 01:41 < bjt32> at 1920x1200 most gtk applications are screwed up 01:41 < bjt32> kde fonts work better it seems 01:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:41 < ubermensch> i just like how easily customizable it is 01:41 < ubermensch> and the massive amount of work behind it's customizability 01:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 01:41 < ubermensch> at sites like kde-look.org 01:41 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #Ipodlinux 01:41 < imphasing> I have 2560x1024 with no problem with fonts 01:42 < imphasing> gnome is far cleaner and more customizable 01:42 < ubermensch> nahh 01:42 < imphasing> but tvwm is good 01:42 < ubermensch> i used gnome for a while 01:42 < ubermensch> till i tried kde =) 01:42 < ubermensch> i dunno though 01:42 < ubermensch> has gnome changed much lately? 01:42 < imphasing> you are one of those people that installs everything from a disc, and kicks back, eh? 01:42 < ubermensch> i haven't used it in at least 2 years 01:42 < imphasing> gnome ahs always benn good 01:42 < imphasing> whoa, typos 01:42 < ubermensch> no, i did a stage 1 install in gentoo 01:43 < ubermensch> i just prefer kde 01:43 * imphasing has no idea what that is 01:43 < imphasing> I just pick out a kernel, some network packages, and get what I want 01:43 < bjt32> yeah.. I did stage 1 too.. it's not really any harder than 3 01:43 < bjt32> just takes a little longer 01:43 < ubermensch> well, point is, it's exactly the opposite of what imphasing was suggesting 01:43 < imphasing> I have a little rescue disc, with network packages, and I just install what I want 01:44 < bjt32> yeah 01:44 < imphasing> kde seems to mimc microsoft a little too much 01:44 < ubermensch> that's true 01:44 < ubermensch> i'll give ya that 01:44 < imphasing> and all that 'k' crap makes me sick 01:44 < imphasing> :D 01:44 < ubermensch> little too monolithic 01:44 < ubermensch> hehe yeah 01:45 < imphasing> You can hide all of gnome, and make it just look like 'a desktop' 01:45 < bjt32> hah 01:45 < bjt32> probably can with kde too 01:45 < imphasing> yeah, maybe 01:46 < imphasing> I ♥ my package manager 01:46 < bjt32> which is that? 01:46 < imphasing> poldek 01:46 < bjt32> oh.. hearts.. never mind 01:46 < bjt32> or not 01:46 < bjt32> never mind.. I'm out of it.. what package manager? 01:47 < imphasing> poldek 01:47 < imphasing> :D 01:47 < ubermensch> wtf 01:47 < ubermensch> =) 01:47 < ubermensch> never heard of it 01:47 < imphasing> it's the best 01:47 < imphasing> from the PLD distro 01:47 < ubermensch> what kind of packages does it use? 01:47 < imphasing> rpm 01:47 < ubermensch> i dunno... it's pretty hard to beat portage.... 01:47 < bjt32> so far I've really liked portage.. 01:48 < imphasing> poldek + PLD's awesome CVS scripts are just like portage 01:48 < bjt32> bleh.. haven't updated my old laptop in a while.. :: starts update :: : ) 01:48 < ubermensch> portage is definitely the most sophisticated package manager i've used so far 01:48 < ubermensch> bjt32 with portage? 01:48 < bjt32> yeah 01:49 < ubermensch> in a couple days it should be finished =) 01:49 < imphasing> slow download speed? 01:49 < ubermensch> no it compiles everything from source 01:49 < imphasing> funtime 01:50 < imphasing> PLD has the most awesome CVS program. It's almost just like protage; you can just specify a package, it'll download it, and build it for you 01:50 < imphasing> then RPM it too 01:50 < imphasing> http://fortworks.com/alex/desk.jpg 01:50 < imphasing> that's what my desktop looks like righyt now 01:51 < ubermensch> but, you're able to set variables which control what kind of arch/proc the packages are compiled for, so everything is compiled specifically for your computer 01:51 < ubermensch> so it runs a little faster 01:51 < bjt32> nice.. I want dual displays 01:51 < ubermensch> if you knwo what you're doing 01:51 < BHSPitMonkey> Aik: ping 01:51 < imphasing> yeah, poldek will download only the sources for your arch, unless you specify otherwise 01:51 < bjt32> emerging 2 of 47.. whee 01:52 < BHSPitMonkey> why would someone's /etc/rc have "podzilla || sleep 3600" 01:52 < bjt32> I don't understand why firefox 1.5 isn't on stable yet though... 01:52 < ubermensch> well i mean you can even specify specific gcc compile time args 01:52 < ubermensch> ?? 01:53 < ubermensch> they like to wait around a lot..? 01:53 < bjt32> uhm.. I dunno 01:53 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 01:53 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:54 < Aik> BHS: pong 01:54 < BHSPitMonkey> your /etc/rc is very personalized :P 01:54 < BHSPitMonkey> i diff'd our userlands 01:54 < Aik> lots of tinkering to get stuff to work 01:54 < BHSPitMonkey> what was the sleep on podzilla for? 01:55 < Aik> kept it from scrolling one line for the prompt when pz would crash 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 01:55 < Aik> that was before I starting spitting stdout/stderr to files instead 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> i don't think it matters for me though 01:55 < BHSPitMonkey> i boot to pz0 by default 01:55 < Aik> no, I'm sure you can take it out 01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> i see yours is the other way around, right 01:56 < Aik> I boot to pz2 01:56 < Aik> I don't think I even have pz0 anymore 01:56 < BHSPitMonkey> you have podzilla1 in sbin 01:56 < Aik> probably just a backup from when I first switched 01:57 < Aik> I'm sure there's other shite strewn about as well 01:57 < Aik> btw, you'll need to uncomment the mpd database update in rc if you want it to index your own songs 01:57 < bjt32> onoe of you sshing on the others computer or something? or what? 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> you only do that individually though right? 01:58 < Aik> individually? 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> as in, only once, as per music changes 01:58 < Aik> yeah 01:58 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 01:59 < Aik> no reason to write to flash over and over 01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> i think i'll just put that in a start file then 01:59 < Aik> does that stuff boot on your nano, btw? 01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> what stuff? 01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm just now getting the comparisons done btw 01:59 < Aik> what I sent you. 01:59 < BHSPitMonkey> and i didn't have mpd 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> like i said, just now getting that done 02:00 < Aik> also note that the pz2 I sent you is built from probably week old code 02:00 < Aik> haven't upped in a while 02:00 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm still using my own pz2 02:00 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 < bjt32> so.. should I get a video instead of a nano? 02:01 < BHSPitMonkey> umm..if you want one 02:01 < BHSPitMonkey> it's not something we can tell you to do, like take a shower 02:01 < BHSPitMonkey> hint hint 02:01 < bjt32> hah 02:01 < bjt32> yeah.. actually.. after playing ddr.. I do need a shower 02:01 < BHSPitMonkey> you athlete you. 02:02 < ubermensch> haha 02:03 < bjt32> I was thinking about the nano.. I just want to see idoom on it : ) 02:03 < bjt32> but the video is nice too 02:03 < ubermensch> hehe yeah idoom looks pretty damn good on it 02:03 < bjt32> you have one? 02:03 < ubermensch> looks pretty damn awful on my mini 02:04 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:04 < ubermensch> naw, just saw the vid of it 02:04 < bjt32> oh ok 02:04 < ubermensch> on the nano 02:04 < BHSPitMonkey> hey, my friends with minis think it looks cool 02:04 < BHSPitMonkey> lol it IS impressive to see for the first time 02:04 < ubermensch> haha it's so bad 02:05 < ubermensch> it's as if you hooked up a gameboy screen to an old 486 and ran doom on it 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> you should edit the WAD to have flat-textured objects. 02:05 < bjt32> I think I might put it on my mom's mini when I go back home for christmas : ) 02:05 < ubermensch> relatively fast proc and crappy screen 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> merry christmas mom 02:05 < BHSPitMonkey> blow away those bitches 02:05 < bjt32> I'm currently stuck with the poor man's ipod I got a while back.. rio karma 02:06 < bjt32> it's nice though 02:06 < bjt32> built in ethernet.. ogg support.. 20 gigs.. for only 300 at a time when the 20 gig ipod was like 550 02:06 < bjt32> but want an ipod to code on.. 02:06 < ubermensch> but...is there ipl on the rio? 02:06 < ubermensch> i think not 02:06 < bjt32> yeah.. 02:07 < bjt32> thus why I want an ipod : ) 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> what does a rio do with ethernet? 02:07 < bjt32> you can upload songs to it over ethernet 02:07 < ubermensch> wtf 02:07 < BHSPitMonkey> that's dumb. 02:07 < ubermensch> hehe 02:08 < bjt32> it has a built in http server.. that will serve you a java application to upload songs to it over ethernet 02:08 < ubermensch> is there a usb connection? 02:08 < BHSPitMonkey> unless you hacked a wifi antenna in there or something 02:08 < bjt32> yeah.. 02:08 < bjt32> but it's nice.. because on my other laptop.. (my main one at the time) the usb is broke 02:08 < BHSPitMonkey> though that would waste power. 02:09 < imphasing> so...this thing has a java vm? 02:09 < imphasing> =/ 02:09 < ubermensch> i'd like to get started on making ag ame for ipl.... any ideas? i've thought of a few, but they already exist either natively in ipl or have a version available with iBoy 02:09 < BHSPitMonkey> Aik: will /home/.mpd create itself 02:10 < BHSPitMonkey> ubermensch: trying to port or create? 02:10 < BHSPitMonkey> /rewrite 02:10 < ubermensch> thinking about porting a classic 02:10 < ubermensch> just dunno which =) 02:10 < ubermensch> what's something you'd like to see on the ipod? 02:10 < imphasing> Iike what? 02:10 < BHSPitMonkey> missile command! 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> i found an opensource port 02:11 < ubermensch> is there really not a missile command? 02:11 < imphasing> that game is retarded 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> it would probably be easy, i glanced over it 02:11 < ubermensch> figured that'd be already available 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> imphasing: your mom is ret...never mind 02:11 < ubermensch> hmm 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> ubermensch: surprisingly enough, there isn't a large panel of people writing games for the ipod. 02:11 < ubermensch> silly people 02:12 < imphasing> you mean..silly people that are developing the actual Os? 02:12 < imphasing> :D 02:12 < ubermensch> =) yup, them 02:13 < ubermensch> i like how vortex is coming along 02:13 < imphasing> I don't get that game 02:13 < imphasing> :D 02:13 < ubermensch> loved tempest back in the day, looks like vortex is on the right track, and suited perfectly for the ipod 02:14 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:14 < ubermensch> is there any (not ridiculously hard) way of adding sound to the games? i noticed non of them (including the apple games) have it 02:14 < ubermensch> none* 02:14 < aegray__> apple games don't have it for a reason 02:15 < ubermensch> figured =) 02:15 < aegray__> and it would be relatively easy 02:15 < BHSPitMonkey> the only apple game with sound is music quiz 02:15 < ubermensch> hehehe 02:16 < ubermensch> alright, deoderant is starting to fail me....time for a showre 02:16 < aegray__> hahahaha 02:16 < BHSPitMonkey> ubermensch: if you're serious, look at this source i found http://missile.sourceforge.net/dl/missile-1.0.1.tar.gz 02:17 < ubermensch> great, thanks, and yeah i'm serious... i've been trying to think of something to contribute 02:17 < ubermensch> thanks 02:17 < bjt32> I've been trying to figure out if motion jpeg could be decoded on the nano still.. 02:18 < imphasing> probably not yet 02:18 < imphasing> it would be slow 02:19 < imphasing> just rendering a jpg image is slow 02:19 < bjt32> yeah.. I dunno.. maybe not 02:19 < imphasing> and a sequence would be slower 02:19 < bjt32> seems like the simplest codec you could do 02:19 < bjt32> anything else requires a lot more math 02:19 < bjt32> huffman doesn't do much to movies.. 02:19 -!- Funzo [i=Funzo@CPE0013460bf939-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:20 < imphasing> it's still compressed 02:20 < imphasing> ever notice how longit takes to render a jpg image to the screen? 02:20 < imphasing> it's a while 02:20 < imphasing> 15fps would be impossible without the other porc 02:20 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:20 < imphasing> s/porc/proc/ 02:20 < bjt32> yeah.. I think you could probably do it with both.. but you really need one to do audio 02:21 < bjt32> going to do some work on finding fast idct algorithms and see if anything turns up 02:23 < BHSPitMonkey> ubermensch: that might not even be good and ready, since it's made for mouse input, you'd have to add an aiming mechanism 02:24 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 < joecool> Vanquisher: get in the other channels, bitch 02:24 < joecool> k 02:25 < Vanquisher> umm... ,,|,, 02:25 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 02:26 < joecool> Vanquisher: ..|.. ..|.. 02:26 < BHSPitMonkey> oooo the double deuce 02:26 < Vanquisher> joecool, ,,|,, ^_^ ,,|,, Service with a smile 02:27 < joecool> ..|.. d-_-b ..|.. 02:27 < jedix> _ is a smile? 02:27 < BHSPitMonkey> it is with ^^ 02:27 < joecool> ..|.. d^_^b ..|.. << asian 02:28 < Vanquisher> joecool, ,,|,, ^.^ ,,|,, Kirby just fliped u the bird 02:28 < imphasing> this is retarded 02:28 < imphasing> :D 02:28 < aegray__> haha 02:28 < Vanquisher> imphasing, as are you 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> imphasing: how's the launcher? 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> j/k 02:29 < imphasing> aegray__ laughs the truth! 02:29 * aegray__ laughed to agree 02:29 * imphasing isn't going to grace Vanquisher with a reply 02:29 < joecool> hmm 02:29 < joecool> /"\ 02:29 < joecool> |\./| 02:29 < joecool> | | 02:29 < joecool> | | 02:29 < joecool> |>~<| 02:29 < joecool> | | 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> no sir 02:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray__ ] by ChanServ 02:29 < joecool> /'\| |/'\.. 02:29 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray__ [aegray__] 02:29 < imphasing> haha 02:29 < BHSPitMonkey> take it to flood 02:29 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 02:29 < Vanquisher> rofl 02:29 < joecool> | ~ ~ ~ ~ |` ) 02:29 < joecool> | / 02:29 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray__ [aegray__] 02:29 < imphasing> bad move 02:29 < Vanquisher> pwned 02:30 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by aegray__ [stop] 02:30 < bjt32> haha 02:30 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 < joecool> Flushing server send queue, 220 bytes. 02:30 < Vanquisher> rofl 02:30 < joecool> yeah... forgot you need to do that with xchat 02:30 < joecool> my bad 02:31 < Vanquisher> joecool, noob 02:31 < joecool> Vanquisher: hey, i bet you don't even know howto flush the cache on xchat 02:31 < joecool> hmm? 02:31 < aegray__> /cacheflush? 02:31 < joecool> nope 02:31 < aegray__> /flushthecache 02:32 < BHSPitMonkey> /flushthetoilet 02:32 < joecool> try again :) 02:32 < Vanquisher> joecool, if i wasnt downloading anything i would consult google 02:32 < imphasing> aegray, is it almost time for a house cleaning? 02:32 < aegray__> haha 02:32 -!- endupontopolis [n=stevewal@dsl-118-93.srtnet.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:32 < joecool> Vanquisher: if you weren't downloading gay pr0n 02:32 < imphasing> haha 02:32 < Vanquisher> joecool, lol actually no 02:33 < Vanquisher> joecool, lets not discuss what you dl and are insecure about it so blame it on others 02:33 < joecool> oh yeah.. i forgot.. you're into animal pr0n now 02:33 < imphasing> Man, this is really funny 02:33 < aegray__> is that visible? 02:33 < Vanquisher> joecool, try again 02:33 < joecool> child pr0n, sick bastard!! 02:33 < Vanquisher> joecool, wrong 02:33 < BHSPitMonkey> eek 02:33 < Aik> the quality of dialogue on this channel is very variable 02:34 < aegray__> yea 02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 02:34 < imphasing> Aik, You speak the truth. 02:34 < BHSPitMonkey> Aik: pm? 02:34 < joecool> any channel with Vanquisher in it brings this on 02:34 < imphasing> A noob cloud has floated over my field of vision! I can't see through the haze! 02:34 < Aik> BHS: yes? 02:34 < Vanquisher> a channel with joecool brings this retarted shit 02:35 < imphasing> it's 'retarded' 02:35 < bjt32> we ta did 02:35 < Vanquisher> imphasing, thanks 02:35 < joecool> imphasing: he's "special" 02:36 < regular> retarted shit = post-digested tart remade into another tart 02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> who are YOU 02:36 < BHSPitMonkey> you aren't a regular at all 02:36 < Vanquisher> BHSPitLappy, your father 02:36 < regular> my account name 02:36 < joecool> BHSPitLappy: your mom 02:37 < BHSPitMonkey> when i get to my laptop, i'll be outraged 02:37 < joecool> mmm new bash, cool 02:37 < Vanquisher> i bet regular is a spy sent from apple those fucks 02:37 < joecool> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145342 << check that shit out, cheap too 02:38 < imphasing> Vanquisher, Forget your paranoia meds? 02:39 < Vanquisher> imphasing, yeah i didnt smoke my needed amount of weed for the day 02:39 < joecool> imphasing: its the crack habit he picked up 02:45 < bjt32> http://frenzy.morpheme.co.uk/frenzy/ 02:59 -!- rto [i=rto@69.79.179.86] has joined #ipodlinux 02:59 < rto> hi 02:59 < aegray__> hi 03:00 < rto> a have a ipod mini 2g, but when i installed th podzilla and kernel, only i can see the apple logo and a carpet , nothing more, someone could helpme? 03:00 < aegray__> a carpet?? 03:01 < aegray__> `2g mini 03:01 < iplbot> 2g mini is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/2g_mini [from aegray__] 03:01 < rto> aegray, a carpet or sign or a carpet with ! 03:01 < aegray__> a carpet though? 03:01 < aegray__> like that thing on my floor? 03:01 < aegray__> are you spanish? 03:01 < imphasing> My ipod spits out a persian rug when there's an error 03:01 < aegray__> haha 03:01 < rto> yes 03:02 < aegray__> mines an afghan 03:02 < imphasing> ah, nice.. 03:02 < imphasing> higher generation than mine I guess 03:02 < aegray__> damn right 03:02 < rto> aegray, sorry carpet not like upon your floor 03:02 < aegray__> carpeta? 03:02 < aegray__> didn't know carpet was a word 03:02 < aegray__> ie -> folder 03:03 < rto> aegray do you speak spanish? 03:03 < aegray__> little bit 03:03 < aegray__> enough to know when you're making fun of me 03:03 < rto> un poquito 03:03 < rto> aegray, i need some of your atention 03:03 < aegray__> are you using the latest nightlies? 03:04 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:04 < rto> aegray, understand my poor english 03:04 < aegray__> i know - just answer le question - are you using nightlies? 03:04 < aegray__> what os are you on 03:04 < aegray__> ? 03:04 < imphasing> rto, ¿Cuál es el problema con su ipod? 03:04 < aegray__> damn you're unicode 03:04 < aegray__> your* 03:04 < imphasing> haha 03:05 < imphasing> rto, Cual es el problema son su ipod? 03:05 < aegray__> we know what the problem is smartass 03:05 < aegray__> he told us already 03:05 < imphasing> I know 03:05 < aegray__> haha 03:05 < imphasing> I'm being a smartass 03:05 < ubermensch> che cos'e' la problema hai? 03:05 < aegray__> you just wanna speek spannish 03:05 < imphasing> yeah... :( 03:06 < rto> imphasing, descargue el instalador para windows edite el archivo start y lo puse en raiz de mi ipod, copie el podzilla a raiz de ipod y el kernel lo copie en la reiz de la carpeta donde descomprimi el instalador 03:06 < imphasing> holy fuck 03:07 < ubermensch> non capisco questa lingua.... parli italiano e capiro' 03:07 < rto> imphasing, do you understandme? 03:07 < aegray__> rto are you using nightlies? 03:07 < rto> sprechen sie deutchland? 03:07 < aegray__> estas...ussando...los...nightlies 03:08 < imphasing> rto, si, sobre todo 03:08 < imphasing> rto, ya. 03:08 < imphasing> :D 03:08 < aegray__> aaaaaaaagh 03:08 < imphasing> aegray, haha 03:08 < rto> aegray, what is a nightlies, sorry 03:08 < aegray__> `builds 03:08 < aegray__> wait for it.... 03:08 < aegray__> wait for it.... 03:08 < aegray__> `wiki builds 03:08 < iplbot> Builds (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Builds) [48 bytes] 03:08 < aegray__> `wiki builds 03:08 < bjt32> come on iplbot 03:08 < iplbot> Builds (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Builds) [48 bytes] 03:08 < imphasing> rto, las estructuras más últimas del podzilla 03:09 < rto> imphasing, i have slackware , do you know if i can insallit from slackware 03:10 * aegray__ quits 03:11 < rto> i tell you , what i did for install from win xp? 03:12 < imphasing> rto, Sí, pero es más difícil 03:12 < aegray__> `wiki windows nightly build installation 03:12 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 03:12 < rto> ok 03:12 < aegray__> grrr 03:12 < aegray__> `wiki windows build installation 03:12 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 03:12 < aegray__> `wiki window build installation 03:12 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 03:12 < aegray__> i hate you iplbot 03:12 < aegray__> `windows nightly build installation 03:12 < iplbot> I assume you meant nightlys. nightlys are at http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds, NOT /nightlys. Any link to /nightlys is wrong and should be updated. [from aegray__] 03:12 < aegray__> i'm dying 03:12 < rto> sorry, please, im still novice 03:12 < bjt32> haha 03:13 < aegray__> http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_nightly_build_installation 03:13 < imphasing> rto, http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=en%7Ces&u=http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_GUI_Installation&prev=/language_tools 03:13 < aegray__> are you using the 4g installer? 03:13 < rto> i have a ipod mini 2g 03:14 < rto> but im not sure if the installer is 2g or 4g 03:14 < aegray__> 4g installer is used for 2g mini 03:15 < imphasing> rto, ucha gente tiene apuro el instalar del linux sobre su ipod mini 03:15 < imphasing> *Mucha 03:15 < BHSPitMonkey> nice, 03:15 < rto> ok so i must to download podzilla, kernel, and installer? 03:15 < rto> nothing more? 03:15 < imphasing> Apesadumbrado para mi mal español 03:16 < imphasing> You can just download the installer 03:16 < aegray__> #ipodlinux.someotherlanguage 03:16 < BHSPitMonkey> #ipodlinux.es ? 03:16 < aegray__> sure 03:17 < rto> BHSPitLappy, thi is a joke 03:17 < imphasing> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ipodlinuxinst/ipodlinux-installer-1.2.1.zip 03:17 < rto> imphasing, not your spanish is much better than my poor english 03:17 < aegray__> he needs the 4g installer 03:18 < rto> believeme 03:18 < imphasing> rto, Descargue eso. Es muy fácil de instalar 03:18 < imphasing> gracias 03:19 < rto> imphasing, i downloaded this file before, but i dont know how works 03:19 < rto> i installed before 03:19 < rto> but nothing 03:19 < aegray__> damnit imphasing listen 03:20 < aegray__> unless that works for 4g 03:20 < imphasing> aegray, he is using a mini, yes? 03:20 < aegray__> mini 2g 03:20 < imphasing> ah... 03:20 < aegray__> thats for 1-3g i thought 03:20 < rto> imphasing, yes ipod mini 2g 03:22 < rto> imphasing, i will try with url that you send to me 03:22 < imphasing> Quizás sea más problema que vale de instalar 03:23 < rto> imphasing, 03:23 < BHSPitMonkey> anyone know the command in podwrite to call up the menu? 03:24 < imphasing> Hay muchas cosas que usted tiene que hacer para instalar Linux a un mini. Usted debe compilar su propio meollo, y podzilla. Si usted no tiene la experiencia con compilar, entonces quizás sea quizás moleste demasiado. 03:25 -!- casper [n=casper@66-50-99-2.prtc.net] has joined #iPodLinux 03:25 < BHSPitMonkey> exactly what does he need to compile?? 03:25 < BHSPitMonkey> if he's using nightlies 03:26 < aegray__> nothing 03:26 < imphasing> Well, that's true 03:26 < BHSPitMonkey> "if you don't have the experience with compiling, then ..." 03:26 < aegray__> yea 03:26 < BHSPitMonkey> it's really simple, even using installation_from_linux 03:26 < imphasing> Well, I'm just going by the wiki page 03:26 < imphasing> no idea really 03:27 < imphasing> ah, there's windows instructions 03:27 < BHSPitMonkey> Es facil, si usted lee el instructiones con razon 03:28 < imphasing> rto, http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=en%7Ces&u=http://ipodlinux.org/2g_mini&prev=/language_tools 03:28 < BHSPitMonkey> lo siento para no estoy muy bien con espanol.. 03:29 < imphasing> Hay las instrucciones en que página, pero más allá de eso, yo no le puedo ayudar. Hago no tiene cualquier experiencia que instala Linux en un mini... 03:29 < rto> thanks a lot for us 03:29 < imphasing> De nada 03:30 < rto> me dan mejor ayuda que la gente de irc en español 03:30 < rto> thanks a lot 03:30 < casper> hii 03:30 < bjt32> lo siento.. no hablo espanol muy bien : ) 03:30 < josh_> "I __ a lot of help that the people of irc in spanish"? :P 03:31 < bjt32> give 03:31 < bjt32> maybe.. hrm 03:31 < rto> i hope that in other oportunity i will speak much better english 03:31 < bjt32> oh ok 03:31 < rto> so 03:31 < imphasing> he said that I gave better help than the spanish irc people. 03:31 < imphasing> woo! 03:31 < bjt32> oh ok.. I was right.. 03:31 < rto> it was a great help for me 03:31 < bjt32> get it working? 03:32 < josh_> imphasing: ah :P 03:32 < imphasing> :D 03:32 < rto> imphasing, ill learn to speak better 03:32 < bjt32> rto: does it work now? 03:32 < rto> now, not yet 03:32 < imphasing> rto, your english is not so bad, how long have you been speaking it? 03:33 < rto> imphasing, what is the meaning of how long? 03:34 < rto> thanks 03:34 < imphasing> Cuán largo ha sabido usted inglés? 03:34 < rto> id like to join again to this irc channel to leran english also 03:34 < bjt32> you would learn very bad english : ) 03:34 < rto> imphasing, yes 03:34 < imphasing> Fun. 03:35 < rto> bjt32, why 03:35 < bjt32> not really.. just sometimes it's a little different 03:35 < rto> slangs and this things , 03:35 < imphasing> Las personas aquí están no muy listo, y pueden ser un poco estúpido. 03:35 < bjt32> yeah 03:35 < aegray__> imphasing: speak for yourself 03:35 < imphasing> I love dissing people in other languages... 03:36 < imphasing> :D 03:36 < aegray__> bastard 03:36 < imphasing> only a few people are stupid 03:36 < imphasing> not you 03:36 < bjt32> me? : ) 03:36 < aegray__> awe i thought i was 03:36 < imphasing> not at all, you wrote a video player 03:36 < imphasing> that diqualifies you 03:36 < imphasing> s/di/dis/ 03:37 < rto> sorry , just i want to learn some thing about linux and english , but ..bye again thanks a lot 03:37 < aegray__> but...bye 03:37 < aegray__> haha 03:38 < rto> hasta la vista baby 03:38 < imphasing> rto, bye. 03:38 * imphasing sniggers at arnold 03:38 < rto> sorry this sounds a little bit gay? 03:39 < bjt32> lol 03:39 < imphasing> 'Baby' can have a few different meanings 03:39 < imphasing> that is from a movie, so it is ok to say it. 03:39 < imphasing> :D 03:39 < rto> ok 03:39 < rto> ill be back 03:39 < rto> bye now 03:39 < imphasing> haha, bye 03:40 < rto> one thing more 03:40 < rto> what do you thing about shakira? 03:41 < imphasing> I have not listened to many of her songs, so I do not know 03:41 < rto> in your country 03:41 < rto> not 03:41 < skier1437> does a video converter work for os x yet? 03:41 < skier1437> or does compressed video play on ipL? 03:41 < casper> hey guys i need help installing linux to mu 4gb ipodnano 03:41 < imphasing> but from what I have heard of her, I liked. 03:41 < rto> not her songs, her bum bum , the way that she shake her bum bum 03:41 * imphasing sniggeres 03:42 < casper> can anybody tellme the files that i need to install it?? 03:42 -!- rto [i=rto@69.79.179.86] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:42 < imphasing> rto, yes, she is hot. 03:42 < imphasing> haha 03:43 < imphasing> oh man, that was a riot. 03:43 < aegray__> whereis KDSETMODE defined? 03:44 < aegray__> whereis O_NONBLOCK defined? 03:44 < aegray__> anyone? 03:45 < aegray__> help? 03:45 < bjt32> hrm 03:45 < aegray__> where are those things defined? 03:45 < aegray__> nm got it 03:46 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/podzilla2/Makefile: Link in all of libgcc. Resolves #7. (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/439) 03:46 < bjt32> oh ok.. was looking 03:46 < skier1437> does a video converter work for os x, or does ipl play any type of compressed video? 03:46 < imphasing> josh_++ 03:46 < aegray__> nothing works yet 03:46 < aegray__> it will in a little 03:46 < aegray__> erm 03:46 < aegray__> nm 03:46 < aegray__> mencoder doesn't work for color 03:46 < casper> what are the files thaty i need to install linux in a 4gb ipodnano? 03:47 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/podzilla2 % grep -r KDSETMODE /usr/include 03:47 < josh_> /usr/include/linux/kd.h:#define KDSETMODE 0x4B3A /* set text/graphics mode */ 03:47 < josh_> O_NONBLOCK is in 03:47 < josh_> aegray__: ^ 03:47 < aegray__> had it 03:47 < aegray__> thanks 03:47 < josh_> cool 03:48 < bjt32> hah.. porting kde? (yes, I'm joking) 03:50 -!- casper [n=casper@66-50-99-2.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:51 < imphasing> aegray, the video player for pz2 would be as simple as a launcher, right? like the same sort of thing for idoom, but a default handler? 03:52 < aegray__> yea 03:52 < imphasing> nifty 03:52 < skier1437> what is pz2, podzilla 2? 03:52 < skier1437> if so, what is better about it 03:53 < imphasing> as soon as josh_ gets an execute file function up, I'll go on a mad pz2 packaging rampage 03:54 < skier1437> is pz2 even out? 03:54 < imphasing> in a sense 03:55 < skier1437> just for programming? 03:59 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:00 -!- skier1437 [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:06 < imphasing> gar..parsing is fun 04:09 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:13 < imphasing> Woo, I think I got it figured 04:13 < imphasing> I might be able to support...
in my viewer now 04:13 < imphasing> whoop-de-fucking-do 04:13 < imphasing> It's a start I suppose 04:14 < bjt32> lex maybe? 04:14 < imphasing> lex? 04:15 < bjt32> a tool for creating lexers.. I've never messed with it much though 04:15 < imphasing> huh 04:15 < bjt32> well.. your writing a lexer.. not sure if it would be easier to use lex or not 04:17 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h144n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:17 < imphasing> probably not... 04:18 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h56n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:24 < burnhamd> hey about that mpd module 04:24 < burnhamd> what all works with it 04:25 < BleuLlama> are you from Florida, burnhamd? 04:25 < burnhamd> does it work the same as compiling the old podzilla with it 04:25 < burnhamd> no why 04:25 < burnhamd> georgia 04:25 < BleuLlama> just wondering... i had a friend from florida who would say "what all" 04:26 < BleuLlama> aah. The south east. gotcha 04:26 < burnhamd> yea its something ive picked up here in this wasteland 04:28 -!- L1 [n=chatzill@nebula.vortex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:28 < L1> Hello. Is there a version of podzilla for nano that keeps backlight lit during video playback? Thanks. 04:29 < BHSPitLappy> not until you recode it, L1. 04:29 < BHSPitLappy> and we've all been waiting for you to do it 04:29 < L1> yet another project... 04:30 < burnhamd> hey i read the wiki but i wanted a second opinion 04:30 < burnhamd> mpd module is released but how well does it work 04:31 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:40 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:40 < BarHarborUSA> Thanks to everyone who helped me earlier...far from converting this 4G installer into a 5G installer, but I've got a much better understanding of the build and install process than I did this morning. 04:41 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Off to bed"] 04:41 < BleuLlama> Glad I could help ya. 04:44 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 04:44 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:46 -!- L1 [n=chatzill@nebula.vortex.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 04:56 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has joined #ipodlinux 05:03 < aegray_> can anyone convert a video for me to mpeg1 @ 220x176? 05:08 < spazzium> hmmm 05:08 < spazzium> I lost that software 05:08 < spazzium> before I formatted my win box... yeah 05:08 < spazzium> freaking retarded malware. 05:08 < aegray_> damnit 05:08 < spazzium> I can probably find it again? 05:08 < spazzium> link to source video? 05:08 < aegray_> if you can convert something for me that'd be great 05:08 < spazzium> or just anything 05:08 < aegray_> any vid would be good 05:08 < spazzium> you just need a sample? 05:08 < aegray_> yea 05:08 < spazzium> k 05:08 < aegray_> thnx 05:10 < BleuLlama> i'd start with a movie trailer 05:10 < BleuLlama> or one of those viral videos.... star wars kid, etc. 05:11 < spazzium> I can do a viral video 05:11 < spazzium> that's a good idea 05:12 < BleuLlama> that house with the xmas lights... 05:12 < BHSPitLappy> the trans-siberian orchestra thing? 05:13 < spazzium> too long 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> that's not a bad idea, i'm gonna convert that myself 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> i have a 5min madtv sketch on mine 05:14 < spazzium> I found a 2.7 meg video entitled "dorm prank" 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> but, since you're sending it i guess there's a limit 05:14 < BleuLlama> i was trying out my transcoding on that "shining" movie trailer 05:14 < spazzium> yeah, uploading from cable sucks 05:14 < Aik> if I want to switch to ext2 on the ipod, do I need to do anything other than make sure the journal is committed and change the partition type? 05:14 < spazzium> hahaha 05:14 < spazzium> BleuLlama: the one that makes it look like the "feel good movie of the year"? 05:14 < BleuLlama> yep 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> use the mencoder option to only do like 3 sec 05:14 < BleuLlama> fucking brilliant 05:15 * spazzium <3 that trailer 05:15 < spazzium> mencoder blows 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> Aik, the music partition? 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> lol 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> Mepid blows 05:15 < spazzium> it really does, it corrupts frames regularly 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> it's only done that once, and i was using a wmv 05:16 < BHSPitLappy> so it must be your system. 05:16 < spazzium> hah 05:16 < spazzium> could be 05:16 < spazzium> it's a 2.2 ghz pentium 05:16 < Aik> BHS: no, the linux partition. music is on fat. 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> yeah 05:17 < spazzium> if mencoder doesn't run well on that... then they need to figure out exactly who they're developing for 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> well, i dunno, i've used ext2 from the start 05:17 < Aik> I want to switch from ext3 to ext2 05:17 < spazzium> my ext3 partition corrupted itself 05:17 < Aik> I think mine is set to ext3, anyway. 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> yeah that was my prob too 05:17 < spazzium> went to boot up linux and everything below / hierarchy was gone 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> spazzium, i use a 1.6gHz amd 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> go figure 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> *GHz 05:18 < Aik> oh hm, looks like the partition type doesn't need to change 05:19 < spazzium> aegray_: desired framerate? 05:19 < aegray_> 15 would be nice 05:19 < spazzium> k 05:22 < spazzium> stupid software won't let me do nonstandard res 05:22 < spazzium> one moment 05:22 < BleuLlama> that's the problem i was having with Compressor 05:22 < aegray_> 160x120 is good too 05:22 < BleuLlama> it wouldn't let me do anything other than 320x240 05:24 < spazzium> must be divisible by 8 05:24 < aegray_> 160x120 works 05:24 < spazzium> oh 05:24 * spazzium smacks self 05:24 < josh_> try 216x176 05:24 < aegray_> 160x120 for now 05:24 < BleuLlama> try 8x16 05:24 < aegray_> haha 05:24 < josh_> haah 05:25 < josh_> *haha 05:25 < aegray_> 2 macroblocks 05:26 < spazzium> uploading 05:26 < spazzium> one second 05:27 < spazzium> wow 05:28 < spazzium> mpeg1 is compression but it still blows 05:28 < spazzium> 11 megs 05:28 < aegray_> yea 05:28 < spazzium> it'll be done in about 6 minutes 05:28 -!- julz [n=chatzill@dsl-202-173-131-112.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:28 < spazzium> I should have probably just cropped it 05:28 < spazzium> made it like 10 seconds 05:28 < julz> havent been here 4 ages, cya :) 05:28 -!- julz [n=chatzill@dsl-202-173-131-112.nsw.westnet.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:28 < aegray_> and there was a point to that 05:28 * spazzium downlaods virtual dub 05:29 < spazzium> I hate finding all the crap I missed after formatting 05:29 -!- Prot is now known as Groggles 05:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray_ ] by ChanServ 05:37 * spazzium pokes aegray_ 05:37 < aegray_> hi 05:37 < spazzium> in pm 05:37 < aegray_> hrm i didn't get any pm 05:37 < aegray_> are you regged? 05:37 < spazzium> yup 05:37 < aegray_> try again/ 05:37 < spazzium> [00:36] [NickServ] You have already identified 05:37 < aegray_> are you sending to aegray_? 05:37 < aegray_> or aegray 05:37 < aegray_> there are two of me 05:37 < spazzium> errr 05:47 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:48 < BHSPitLappy> ah, shakira's on snl 05:48 < BHSPitLappy> shaking her bum bum 05:48 < spazzium> eww 05:48 < imphasing> How come they don't make F shirts for people with both arms on the same side? 05:48 < imphasing> =/ 05:49 < BHSPitLappy> guess you're suck hemming your own 05:49 < BHSPitLappy> which must also suck 05:49 < imphasing> damn 06:00 -!- Vinnymac [n=vinnymac@ool-4570a034.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:00 -!- Vinnymac [n=vinnymac@ool-4570a034.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:02 -!- FearaFox [n=stillfox@Toronto-HSE-ppp3720948.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:04 < bjt32> yay.. portage broke something 06:04 < imphasing> how expected 06:05 < bjt32> nah.. it's alright.. I think it wanted a reboot maybe 06:05 < bjt32> if it doesn't work after that then something's broke 06:06 < BleuLlama> hrm... a star chart app would be great on the ipod. 06:06 < imphasing> that would be nifty.. 06:07 < bjt32> hey.. aegray.. there? 06:07 < imphasing> you can download text locations files for the different hemispheres, right? 06:08 < aegray_> yes 06:08 < bjt32> did you need something earlier? I was away for a bit 06:09 < aegray_> something with a video but spazzium got it for me 06:09 < bjt32> oh ok 06:09 < aegray_> thanks spazzium! 06:10 < bjt32> I have yet to figure out how to use mencoder.. need to do that sometime 06:13 < imphasing> mencoder is the awesome 06:13 < imphasing> seriously, it's the best 06:13 < imphasing> for all encoding and playing 06:13 < bjt32> wtf... undefined reference to `std::__default_alloc_template<(bool)1, (int)0>::deallocate(void*, unsigned)' 06:13 < bjt32> grr at portage.. heh 06:13 < aegray_> in? 06:14 < bjt32> arts 06:14 < spazzium> hehe 06:14 < spazzium> no problem aegray_ 06:15 < spazzium> mencoder blows 06:15 < spazzium> it seriously does 06:15 < aegray_> wha?? 06:15 < bjt32> kde sound or soemething I think 06:15 < bjt32> oh well.. I'll deal with it later.. going to bed I think 06:18 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd092.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:18 < imphasing> spazzium, why?? 06:19 < imphasing> becuase you can't figure out how to work it? 06:22 < spazzium> imphasing 06:23 < spazzium> haha 06:23 < spazzium> no 06:23 < spazzium> because it throws bad frames 06:23 < spazzium> it's actually probably one of the easier encoders to actually use 06:23 < spazzium> it'll do almost everything you tell it to 06:24 < spazzium> it just won't do it perfectly 06:25 -!- xoombot [n=xoombot@x-121-178.resnet.montana.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:25 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@h116.237.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:26 < BHSPitLappy> mine always works great 06:39 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:41 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-109-209-232.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:50 < cdm> evening 06:52 < aegray_> hi 06:52 < aegray_> how are you doing? 06:53 < cdm> doing really good 06:53 < cdm> how about you guys? 06:53 < aegray_> pretty good 06:54 < BHSPitLappy> who's cdm? and why's aegray_ being so nice to him? 06:54 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: cdm works at apple. 06:54 < aegray_> hahahahahaha 06:54 < BHSPitLappy> oh. 06:55 < josh_> (not that he ever tells us anything) 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> as? 06:55 < aegray_> on the ipod 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> hmm 06:55 < josh_> 22:54 < josh_> (not that he ever tells us anything) 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> lol 06:55 < cdm> isn't aegray nice to all the people who aren't clueless? 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> maybe he really does work on the ipod 06:55 < aegray_> cdm: exactly 06:55 < BHSPitLappy> (not that he ever tells us anything) 06:56 < BHSPitLappy> it doesn't get brought out of him a lot. 06:56 < cdm> BHSP - my card says "Senior Engineer, eh? - iPod Platform Group" 06:56 < aegray_> your card says eh? 06:56 < cdm> yeah 06:56 < aegray_> you are from canada 06:56 < cdm> I'm Canadian. ;) 06:56 < aegray_> haha i know 06:57 < aegray_> you remember all those times that courtc and i tried to incite canadians 06:57 < cdm> it's a nice way to add some humor to my card without having a silly title. 06:57 < aegray_> *cough* bholland *cough* 06:57 < aegray_> haha thats pretty funny 06:57 < cdm> although my fav card ever is a kernel engineer that used to work at QNX and now works at Sun. 06:57 < cdm> his title is always - "Overhead" 06:57 < aegray_> haha 06:58 < cdm> I thought that was a really good title. 06:58 < cdm> one guy in my group has "kernelsmith" and another one has "f**k chop" 06:58 < aegray_> hahaha 06:58 < aegray_> i'm guessing you hand these out a lot 06:58 < BHSPitLappy> fsck? o.o 06:59 < cdm> no - he was called a "fuck chop" by someone at Apple once. 06:59 < cdm> I have no idea what it means. ;) 06:59 < aegray_> crazy apple people 07:01 < cdm> some of us do - I don't think the chop guy hands those ones out much. ;) 07:01 < ubermensch> gotta question.... what do the .pods in /tools/podzilla2/pods do? 07:01 < aegray_> haha 07:01 < aegray_> ubermensch: they are like modules that you can stick in there 07:01 < BleuLlama> they are pod things 07:02 < aegray_> yea 07:02 < aegray_> that too 07:02 < ubermensch> but, they're binary 07:02 < josh_> well... duh. 07:02 < ubermensch> well i mean 07:02 < josh_> what, did you expect us to Base64 encode them for oyu? 07:02 < ubermensch> are they the actual program 07:02 < josh_> *you 07:02 < ubermensch> used by pz? 07:02 < josh_> yes 07:02 < ubermensch> ahh 07:02 < ubermensch> ok 07:02 < ubermensch> clear now 07:02 < aegray_> josh_: wanna help me out? 07:02 < josh_> aegray_: sure, if I can 07:02 < aegray_> ->.flood 07:02 < josh_> fire away 07:04 < ubermensch> btw, josh_ , does the pz2's display work for the mini yet? 07:05 < josh_> should 07:05 < josh_> I've fixed it 07:05 < josh_> hopefully :P 07:06 < ubermensch> hehe alright, i'll try it out 07:07 < regular> ok, this might sound like a simple question, where is the install.txt that should be in or accompany the X11R6.8.2 archive? 07:08 < regular> I tried locating the file, nothing 07:08 < regular> oh, 07:08 < regular> sorry wrong channel :L/ 07:08 < aegray_> haha 07:18 < Aik> making fun of canadians? that's like shooting fish in a barrel. in the barrel of the gun, in fact. 07:18 < BleuLlama> ? 07:19 < Lex> always highlighting me >:( 07:20 < josh_> Lex: hm? 07:21 < Lex> you talked about lexer or something :D 07:21 < Lex> three hours ago 07:21 < josh_> ah :P 07:21 < Aik> you need a less common nick :) 07:22 < Aik> I only get false hits on AFAIK 07:22 < Lex> :p 07:41 -!- FearaFox [n=stillfox@HSE-Montreal-ppp336766.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 07:57 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd5b4.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:05 -!- regular [n=regular@207.216.91.211] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:14 -!- josh_ [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["leaving"] 08:14 -!- josh_ [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:48 -!- dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:11 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:11 -!- yod|pala is now known as yodaz 09:11 < yodaz> hi 09:20 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 < ubermensch> do you have to manually add a new pod to the menu to get it to show up? 09:26 < BHSPitLappy> yeah. 09:26 < ubermensch> pz.c? 09:26 < BHSPitLappy> because the module decides its menu location. 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> huh? 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> wait what 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> it's in your module 09:27 < BHSPitLappy> look at some other modules source 09:27 < ubermensch> oh yeah 09:27 < ubermensch> duh 09:27 < ubermensch> i forgot about that 09:27 < ubermensch> there's a function you have to run 09:28 < ubermensch> isn't there? 09:28 < BHSPitLappy> if you had to change pz, it wouldn't be modular would it 09:28 < BHSPitLappy> read the wiki, i don't know what it is 09:29 < josh_> ubermensch: pz_menu_add_action() 09:30 < ubermensch> alright cool, thanks 09:30 < iPL-SVN> josh * tools/hotdog/ (12 files in 2 directories): Dirty rectangles. YEAH! (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/440) 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> YEAH! 09:33 < BHSPitLappy> that's a lot of revisions. 09:35 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: it's a pretty far-reaching change 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 09:35 < josh_> should make things significantly faster on the iPod now (once davidc finishes his optimizations) 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> if we can have cleaner rectangles, just imagine what this opens doors to though 09:35 < josh_> haha 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> pentagons, hexagons 09:35 < BHSPitLappy> hell, i'm seeing all the way to nonagons 09:36 < josh_> actually, "dirty rectangles" wasn't *fixing* dirty rectangles, it was *adding* dirty rectangles. 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> i know 09:36 < josh_> :P 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> just trying to be a visionary 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> *sigh* 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> well i'm out 09:36 < BHSPitLappy> it's only 3:30am 09:59 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-55-102.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:00 < Subdino> Hi. I tried to install ipoolinux on an ipod photo about 3 months ago - and I failed - , and I would like to try again. But there doesn't seems to be any change on the wiki page since those 3 months... 10:01 < BHSPitLappy> oh there has. 10:02 < Subdino> the problme was that the boot loader didn't boot ipodlinux, but was still able to boot apple firmware 10:02 < Subdino> and my ipod is a macpod 10:02 < Subdino> is/was it a nkown problem ? 10:03 < BHSPitLappy> winpods are prettier 10:04 < Subdino> no rights problems ? 10:04 < Subdino> I mean, unix FS rights 10:06 < Subdino> "Linux cannot use a FAT partition for its root file system" ah :) 10:08 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8F06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 10:09 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8F06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 10:16 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:17 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:32 -!- Subdino_ [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-76-139.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:44 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-55-102.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:46 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has joined #ipodlinux 10:46 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h56n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:52 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-73-193.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:52 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-73-193.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:03 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:06 -!- Subdino_ [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-76-139.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:13 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:28 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 11:43 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-73-193.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 11:43 < Subdino> do you know where the configuration settings are stored for the apple firmware ? 11:43 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:43 < Subdino> ie file somewhere in the last partiton, or directly in the firmware ? 11:55 -!- kashi [n=KK@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 12:07 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:07 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:08 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:13 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:20 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:21 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD4D25D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 12:21 -!- erus|aweh is now known as erus 12:22 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:31 -!- FearaFox [n=stillfox@HSE-Montreal-ppp336766.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:48 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 12:58 -!- schlitzer_ed_ [n=ed@p54A7680E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:58 < schlitzer_ed_> hello 13:05 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 13:09 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h150n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Success] 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> hey i have killed m ipod nano. after following the instructions and rebooting only the black screen with the apple inside appears and nothing else... 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> dmesg now, will not recognise the ipod 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> rebooting works (i think) but only the apple appears 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> :-/ 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> ahh okay 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> i have it in disk mode again 13:10 < schlitzer_ed_> phuuuu 13:21 -!- Kastanie [n=bigred_o@p5498FDAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd5b4.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 13:24 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 13:24 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-153-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 -!- uwe_ [n=uwe@p5499659D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:32 -!- Kastanie [n=bigred_o@p5498FDAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:33 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-153-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 13:33 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-153-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:56 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:57 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:10 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-153-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:11 -!- FearaFox [n=stillfox@Toronto-HSE-ppp3683575.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 14:15 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-127.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:16 -!- Groggles [i=Prot@ip70-162-8-205.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 14:17 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=steve-o@adsl-66-141-167-127.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:17 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h200n13c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 14:37 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:44 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcu74.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 15:23 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AA9EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 15:23 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AA9EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 15:36 < schlitzer_ed_> *grummel* 15:37 < schlitzer_ed_> linux seems not to work on my 2g nano 15:37 < schlitzer_ed_> :( 15:37 < schlitzer_ed_> it wont boot linux nor apples frimware 15:38 < schlitzer_ed_> (tryed flashing from windows & linux) 15:38 < hyarion> schlitzer_ed_: 2GB nano, 'g' = generation, and there is no 2generation nano AFAIK 15:38 < hyarion> :) 15:38 < schlitzer_ed_> so i will not be able to play doom:( 15:38 < schlitzer_ed_> 2g? 15:39 < schlitzer_ed_> 2 gb... 15:39 < schlitzer_ed_> 2048mb 15:39 < schlitzer_ed_> not generation..... 15:39 < hyarion> how did you install it? 15:40 < hyarion> via GUI or command line? 15:41 < schlitzer_ed_> under linux via command line... 15:41 < schlitzer_ed_> and whit the 4g bootloader 15:41 < schlitzer_ed_> under windows via gui 15:41 < schlitzer_ed_> and this forum post 15:41 < hyarion> did you use "make_fw -3" or just "make_fw"? 15:42 < schlitzer_ed_> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3847&highlight=nano 15:42 < schlitzer_ed_> yes with -3 15:42 < schlitzer_ed_> but my ipod always trys to boot the aplle firmware... 15:43 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:43 < schlitzer_ed_> (ok i think the ipod is trying this, but i only see the black screen with the apple) 15:50 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:53 -!- OMEITOR|away [n=fdwfs@82.201.171.73] has joined #ipodlinux 15:54 -!- OMEITOR|away is now known as OMEITOR 15:55 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h178n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:55 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h200n13c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:58 -!- ShadowBlaze [n=ShadowBl@user-12ldeus.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:58 < ShadowBlaze> hello everyone 16:01 -!- ShadowBlaze [n=ShadowBl@user-12ldeus.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 16:06 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-182-137.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- jchillerup [n=jchiller@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:21 < bjt32> ''morning 16:27 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit ["Client exiting"] 16:34 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 16:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 16:42 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcu74.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ipodlinux [] 16:46 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 16:49 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:49 -!- TrisoBoy` [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:50 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:51 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:02 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:04 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:05 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:07 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-182-137.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:12 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Coffee...must...have...more...coffee!"] 17:13 -!- BarHarborUSA [n=BarHarbo@pool-71-241-214-150.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 17:20 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=steve-o@adsl-67-64-147-184.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-67-64-147-184.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:35 -!- yodaz is now known as yod|pala 17:42 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:49 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:50 -!- schlitzer_ed_ [n=ed@p54A7680E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:50 -!- LNGZR [n=LNGZR@126.Red-213-97-43.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 < LNGZR> hi all 17:51 < LNGZR> I've a Nano and a WinXp OS 17:51 < LNGZR> anyone can help me with the installation of CVS to play videos ??? 17:53 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 -!- xoombot [n=xoombot@x-121-178.resnet.montana.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 18:00 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11 -!- masquerade_ is now known as masquerade 18:18 -!- Djedditt [n=fuck@f136248.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h23n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:23 < Djedditt> How can I play Doom 2 on my iPod? (I have iDoom) 18:25 < xoombot> is it a g5? 18:25 < Djedditt> color ipod 18:26 -!- yod|pala [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:26 -!- mfgalizia [n=micah@CPE000f66e3da54-CM000f9f7770aa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:29 < Djedditt> can't find anything on the internet 18:32 < LNGZR> how can i play videos on my nano and winxp ¿¿ 18:35 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-9d41e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:37 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h178n14c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:40 -!- Djedditt [n=fuck@f136248.upc-f.chello.nl] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:46 -!- akaidiota [n=nope@c-1e43e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:46 < BarHarborUSA> LNGZR: CVS (Concurrent Version System) is a tool to synchronize a software project between multiple programmers. Are you planning to write code yourself? 18:46 -!- Subdino_ [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-43-208.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 18:47 < BHSPitLappy> LNGZR, 1) Have recent kernel/podzilla on your ipod 2)Have video 3)Have mencoder 4)Know how to use it 18:47 < jchillerup> 'it' being mencoder 18:48 < jchillerup> CVS has nothing to do with the video playing itself 18:48 < jchillerup> It's just holding the sources 18:49 < BarHarborUSA> Djedditt: I had iDoom working on the 4G which I already sold (and am many hours from having enough of a handle on the Mac installer source to develop for the 5G I bought to replace it). All I had to do was copy the DOOM2.WAD in place of the demo .WAD and it worked. 18:49 < BHSPitLappy> BarHarborUSA, he gone :) 18:50 < BarHarborUSA> BHSPitLappy: LOL yeah I see that now...well it was good info :D 18:50 < BHSPitLappy> don't use tab-completion? 18:51 -!- mfgalizia [n=micah@CPE000f66e3da54-CM000f9f7770aa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:52 < BarHarborUSA> Me? I just switched to AthenaIRC which does tab completion, but I'm just getting used to it. Now that you mention it that doesn't complete for folks who aren't online. 18:52 < BHSPitLappy> tends not to ;) 18:53 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-73-193.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:53 < BarHarborUSA> Well my Tab key is broken :( so I'm hobbling along on this keyboard anyway...really ought to grab my spare. 18:53 < BHSPitLappy> take one of mine :P 18:54 < BarHarborUSA> Is is USB? It's really a pitty I broke this one...it's one of those slick white Apple keyboards that came with the eMac...they rock in industrial design. 18:54 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm... 18:55 < BHSPitLappy> only apple product i own is the nano :P 18:55 < BHSPitLappy> and maybe that old mac classic or whatever it's called sitting up in the attic 18:55 < BHSPitLappy> (provided it's not trashed by now) 18:55 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 18:56 < BleuLlama> the 'classic' was one of their worst products. overpriced, underpowererd, unexpandable... they took all of the good design of the SE and SE/30 and even the Plus before it, and got rid of everything good from them. 18:57 < BleuLlama> all it has is one ram expansion slot. no PDS slot from the other machines 18:57 < BleuLlama> etc. 18:57 < BarHarborUSA> Steve Jobs approach is to make an "appliance"...you don't open it or analyze it...it just works. The iPod is the epitomy of this approach. 18:58 < BarHarborUSA> Anyone know what the native iPod OS is like? Is it a Darwin/BSD spin-off? 18:58 < preglow> can't imagine it is 18:58 < BleuLlama> the classic was released long after steve left apple 18:59 < BleuLlama> and no, it's a custom os/app on there 19:00 < BarHarborUSA> Yes the classic was released during Steve's exile, but it seemed to try to be true to that "technology appliance" mindset that got the Mac rolling. 19:00 < BleuLlama> but the early macs, created when he was there, were more expandable, processor expansion slots, ram expansion slots, etc. 19:00 < BarHarborUSA> BleuLlama: what is the OS like then? is it just a minimalist embedded device os? 19:01 < BleuLlama> i don't know. i just know it's not a standard os. 19:01 < BleuLlama> er common OS 19:01 < BleuLlama> ask CDM 19:01 < BarHarborUSA> CDM? 19:01 < BleuLlama> yes. he's in here occasionally 19:02 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as BamaWOLF 19:05 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-60-160.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:06 < BHSPitLappy> BarHarborUSA, it's just a contract-company-developed interface, by the same company that did Nokia's interfaces 19:09 -!- Djedditt [n=fuck@f136248.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:14 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-9d41e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:16 -!- iNT0XiC8D [i=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:16 -!- iNT0XiC8D [i=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 -!- FuckMicrosoft [n=blind@c-67-165-4-165.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 -!- Subdino_ [n=vincent@ALille-251-1-43-208.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17 -!- LNGZR2 [n=LNGZR@126.Red-213-97-43.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < preglow> BleuLlama: yes, more or less a custom embedded device os 19:18 -!- xoombot [n=xoombot@x-121-178.resnet.montana.edu] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 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21:32 * joecool has no idea 21:32 < BleuLlama> i've seen photos in a vault13 livejournal communityu 21:32 < BleuLlama> they all seem to be in Russia... i think 21:32 < BleuLlama> but past that, i don't know 21:33 < erus> any 5g infoz? 21:33 < kainz> haha none of that 21:34 -!- smacmac [n=severins@88.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:34 < BleuLlama> what is it? 21:34 < kainz> the fallout series 21:36 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 21:38 -!- yodaz [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:38 < yodaz> hi 21:39 < imphasing> hi 21:40 -!- smacmac [n=severins@88.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 21:44 -!- Zol [n=dsf@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:44 < yodaz> I have tried latest podzilla build, it boots fine, but after kernel load, the only thing I see is an empty screen 21:44 < yodaz> what could be the source of the problem ? 21:44 < BleuLlama> you ran out of pixels 21:45 < BleuLlama> you need to buy red, green, and blue pixel expansion packs 21:45 < BleuLlama> they pour in via the dock connector 21:45 < BleuLlama> you need a funnel 21:46 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-ad45e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:46 < yodaz> BleuLlama: and more seriously ? =) 21:46 < BleuLlama> i am serious 21:46 < imphasing> You have to buy the expansion packet, with with 20% glycerol and 90% water, then pour it into the remote connector of your ipod 21:46 < imphasing> s/with/mix/ 21:46 < BleuLlama> i think you can use toner also, if you mix it with glycerol 21:47 < BleuLlama> oh yeah. what imphasing said 21:47 < imphasing> Yeah, I did it to great effect 21:47 < imphasing> my grey ipod is now color! 21:47 < imphasing> It's so cool 21:47 < yodaz> erf 21:47 < BleuLlama> don't listen to him 21:47 < imphasing> Or his. 21:47 < BleuLlama> you can't make a b&w ipod into a color 21:48 < imphasing> I know...I lied 21:48 < imphasing> I just wanted to be cool 21:50 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-142-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:03 < Aik> hm, anyone know if it's safe to share a Thunderbird folder between linux and windows? 22:04 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-182-137.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:18 -!- slasherx1 [i=slasherx@66-188-18-201.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-160-124.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:22 -!- slasherx1 is now known as slasherx 22:29 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < iPL-SVN> coob * tools/libipod/ (ipod.h ipodhardware.h ipodinfo.c lcd.c): reworked lcd stuff. needs testing, works on type 1 photo lcd (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/444) 22:32 < xoombot> Does that mean the G5 is slowly becoming supported?! 22:32 < imphasing> no 22:32 < xoombot> ok 22:32 < imphasing> that means the photo lcd might have better support 22:32 -!- yodaz is now known as yod|pala 22:32 < BleuLlama> 5g is currently slated to be supported mid-may 22:33 < imphasing> the 5G will only be able to work decently if the devs can figure out the unkown instruction set of the decoder proc 22:33 < imphasing> BleuLlama, are they hoping to have the decoder figured by then? 22:33 < BleuLlama> no. that's for basic support 22:33 < imphasing> ah, right 22:33 < Aik> decoder proc? 22:33 < imphasing> yeah 22:34 < imphasing> the broadcom processor 22:34 < imphasing> that decodes video 22:34 < Aik> ah 22:34 < imphasing> bad name for it, but I'm tired.. 22:34 < imphasing> co-co-processor maybe 22:34 < imphasing> :D 22:34 < imphasing> made by nesquik.. 22:34 < Aik> you mean the video processor? 22:34 < imphasing> yeah, that one 22:34 < aegray_> yes 22:35 < Aik> is it an actual dsp, or just a set of registers 22:35 < Aik> ? 22:35 < imphasing> it's a whole processor 22:35 < imphasing> I can send you the pamphlet, but don't hope for anything 22:35 < BleuLlama> there's a complete hole. 22:36 < kainz> how does it interact with the rest of the system bus? 22:36 < imphasing> broadcom isn't going to give the instruction set to it 22:36 < kainz> same memorybus, initalized by gpios or something? 22:36 < BleuLlama> i could send you a pamphlet, but i doubt you'd be interested in Seabreeze fun park 22:36 < imphasing> I would! 22:36 < leachbj> preglow: yes 22:37 < imphasing> Coupons? 22:37 < BleuLlama> http://seabreeze.com it's down the street from me. :} 22:37 < imphasing> hah, nice 22:37 * imphasing is in love with emacs tab features 22:37 < BleuLlama> cute, tiny little park 22:37 < imphasing> s/emacs/emacs'/ 22:37 < imphasing> Like the small small world at disney land? 22:37 < imphasing> :D 22:38 < BleuLlama> and this is on-topic because i listened to my ipod/podzilla/mikmod in the car while driving there 22:38 < imphasing> I see, so it's all good. 22:38 < BleuLlama> http://yorgle.org/l?36 22:39 * slasherx slaps slasherx around a bit with a large trout 22:39 < slasherx> err 22:39 < imphasing> Ow, those things are pointy 22:39 < slasherx> hi :) 22:39 < imphasing> BleuLlama, nice..it's quaint 22:39 < BleuLlama> yeah. the little yellowish coaster in the top left, and the long wooden one in the bottom are really fun 22:40 < BleuLlama> :D 22:40 < imphasing> I love san fram 22:40 < imphasing> s/fram/fran/ 22:40 < coob> [22:32] imphasing | that means the photo lcd might have better support 22:40 < imphasing> (gah, my typing seems to be sub-par..) 22:40 < coob> erm nope 22:40 < imphasing> nope? 22:40 < coob> libipod is just moving hw specific stuff into a lib 22:40 < coob> so it doesn't have to be duplicated by x million apps 22:40 < BleuLlama> and it's not "quaint"... it's tiny 22:41 < imphasing> the might should have been substituted for a maybe in the begining of the sentance, and a question mark at the end 22:41 < BleuLlama> ;) 22:41 < imphasing> coob, ah, ok 22:41 < imphasing> It's like those little coney island parks.. 22:41 < BleuLlama> yep 22:41 < imphasing> I don't remember much of san fran.. 22:42 < imphasing> just the bridge 22:42 < imphasing> (which I incidently sailed under 22:42 < imphasing> ) 22:43 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-159-111.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:44 -!- Groggles [i=Prot@ip70-162-8-205.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:46 -!- Groggles is now known as Prot 22:49 -!- erus is now known as erus|sleep 22:50 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 < imphasing> three aegrays... 22:57 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@81-178-182-137.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:58 < aegray__> hi 22:58 -!- imphasing is now known as imphasing___ 22:58 < imphasing___> now I fit in 22:59 < aegray__> no you don't 22:59 < imphasing___> I know, but it made me feel cool for a few seconds 22:59 -!- imphasing___ is now known as imphasing 23:02 < BarHarborUSA> Ok so what is the command to change my handle in IRC? 23:02 < aegray__> //nick 23:02 < BarHarborUSA> /nick TryingToBeCool 23:03 -!- BarHarborUSA is now known as TryingToBeCoolBu 23:03 < aegray__> nice try 23:03 -!- TryingToBeCoolBu is now known as Bar 23:03 -!- Bar is now known as BarHar 23:04 -!- BarHar is now known as BarHarborUSA 23:04 < slasherx> hey, what should i do after read c for dummies? i was lookin at the source for tic tac toe...alot of it is still foreign to me... 23:04 < imphasing> Bar Harbor is nice.. 23:04 < imphasing> I like that city 23:04 < BarHarborUSA> I'm happy to be here. 23:04 < aegray__> slasherx: what looks foreign? 23:05 < slasherx> almost all of it lol 23:05 < BarHarborUSA> slasherx: there is no substitute for rolling up your sleeves and programming 23:05 < aegray__> go through it from the start 23:05 < aegray__> it first calls new_whatever_window 23:05 < BarHarborUSA> (hard to believe given the amount of time i spend chatting instead of doing just that) 23:05 < aegray__> and all that stuff gets called 23:06 < imphasing> slasherx, I'm writing an html parser, and I have no idea how to do it. That's the best way to learn 23:06 < imphasing> :D 23:06 < aegray__> ______do_draw gets called when the window gets called 23:06 < aegray__> erm 23:06 < imphasing> hee 23:06 < aegray__> when microwindows wants to draw the window 23:06 < slasherx> well 23:06 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-160-124.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:06 < aegray__> bye aegray_ 23:06 < slasherx> i only know how to do stuff in dos right now lol 23:06 < aegray__> you bitch 23:06 < aegray__> read some tutorials on graphics programming (xwindows maybe) 23:07 < slasherx> hmm 23:07 < slasherx> k 23:07 < slasherx> xwindows is? 23:08 < slasherx> sorry :( noob 23:08 < aegray__> xwindows is unix's graphical environment 23:09 -!- Kury [n=Kury@moscow-cuda-gen2-70-36-24-56.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 < slasherx> could you point me to a book or site that would help ? 23:09 < aegray__> http://www.microwindows.org/Nano-XTutorial.html 23:10 < Kury> Anyone know where there is a IRC chat for stock or Ipod Video ipods?? Thanks 23:10 < slasherx> thanks 23:10 < aegray__> no 23:11 < BarHarborUSA> "The X-Window System". In spite of dozens (hundreds) of occurances of the word "windows" in "Inside Macintosh" (prior art) the US Patent Office saw fit to award Microsoft the trademark "Windows" 23:12 < imphasing> Would it be inefficient to make an html parser that looks through the string, extracts the tags, records their start position and length, then substitute those tags for a plaintext character? (would only work with something like
really..) 23:12 < coob> the uspo does trademarks? 23:12 < Kury> BarHarborUSA.... whats your source?? 23:12 < BarHarborUSA> coob: I thought they handled that...perhaps I'm remembering wrong 23:13 < slasherx> im gonna get reading on this xwindows stuff...ill prolly have more questions tomorrow :) 23:13 < slasherx> cya later 23:13 < coob> doh 23:13 < BarHarborUSA> Kury: It's old news. "window" and "windows" were generic terms in GUI programming PRIOR to MS-Windows getting the trademark 23:13 < coob> its the uspto 23:14 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: whats your source... that the USPO awared MS the trademark for the word? 23:14 < imphasing> didn't they only get the trademark "Microsoft Windows"? 23:14 < BarHarborUSA> imphasing: "Windows" 23:14 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 23:14 < imphasing> Damn, that's unfair.. 23:14 < BarHarborUSA> they don't have to use the MS any more. 23:14 < imphasing> That' 23:14 < imphasing> That's sneaky 23:14 < BarHarborUSA> That's why they were able to brow beat "Lindows" into changing its name. 23:15 < Kury> I don't think thats acurate... read www.linspire.com ... there the ones who battled this in cort 23:15 < BarHarborUSA> X-Window is grandfathered in. It's actually IMO a basis for disputing MS's trademark. 23:15 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: Bullshit.. 23:15 -!- kainz [n=kain@p54B1D016.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 23:15 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: they changed there name because they final got tired of the $$ & time they were having to put into the battle of fighting it... but MS lost the case multiple times... 23:16 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: They kep appealing the rulings though... Thats why Lindows changed there name.. so until you have a source... get your facts strait 23:16 < BarHarborUSA> Kury: iirc, they decided it was easier to change than to fight MS even though they had a case. This is why I used the phrase "brow beat" 23:16 < imphasing> X windows was the very first GUI for a computer, yet MS for the trademark. gar 23:16 < imphasing> s/for/got/ 23:16 < BarHarborUSA> "The X-Window System" 23:17 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: MS doesn't have a trademark on the word windows.. 23:17 < Kury> they got denied several times.. 23:19 < slasherx> Would simon be a pretty simple game to make ? (simon says) 23:19 < aegray__> yes 23:19 < aegray__> sion says? 23:19 < imphasing> very.. 23:19 < slasherx> cool :) 23:19 < BarHarborUSA> Here's the information on the Windows trademark from MS: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/trademarks/winguide.asp 23:20 < slasherx> it hasnt been made yet right? 23:20 < imphasing> Right. 23:20 < aegray__> slasherx: no 23:20 < aegray__> /right 23:20 < BarHarborUSA> Anybody know if the -g flag changes the structure of the firmware file produced by make_fw? 23:21 < aegray__> structure? 23:21 < aegray__> if its 3g or below yes 23:21 < aegray__> or 4g or above 23:21 < slowcoder> It does 23:21 < aegray__> or 5g 23:21 < BarHarborUSA> if I don't specify -g which gen does it create? 23:21 < aegray__> 1g 23:21 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: THat doesn't mean anything... that basicly gives companies with windows based software the rules.. of how they MUST declair there products MS Windows compliant.. 23:22 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: It doesn't limit the fact that I can start a company called... Windows.. and sell glass.. or tint car windows.. 23:22 < BarHarborUSA> Kury: They were awarded the trademark years back. For software. 23:22 < imphasing> Windows trademark applies to their -trade- 23:22 < imphasing> hence the name trademark 23:22 < Kury> BarHarborUSA: I'v got all the cort ruling in my email at home.. there are a dozen + 23:23 < coob> BarHarborUSA: fwv2 23:23 < BleuLlama> and this is all on-topic why? 23:23 < coob> i.e. 3g and below 23:23 < BarHarborUSA> aegray__: Are you positive? The 4G mac installer is calling w/out the param -g 23:23 < imphasing> BleuLlama, it's not...this is what happens when geeks get bored. 23:23 < aegray__> its probably a modified fersion 23:23 < aegray__> it depends on how its compiled 23:23 -!- Kury [n=Kury@moscow-cuda-gen2-70-36-24-56.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [] 23:23 < coob> BarHarborUSA: they use hardcoded make_fw because they suck. 23:24 < aegray__> haha 23:24 < BarHarborUSA> Hmmmm. I just replaced the make_fw that came with the 4G XCode project with the latest build. 23:25 < BleuLlama> there's an x-code project now? 23:25 < BleuLlama> oh. the installer? 23:25 < slowcoder> BarHarborUSA: Is it Kainjows installer you're messing with ? 23:25 < BarHarborUSA> The unofficial 4g installer (slowcoder: yes) 23:26 < slowcoder> Where did you get the XCode project from ? 23:26 < coob> slowcoder: it's based off macpod's 23:26 < coob> http://ipodlinuxinstl.sf.net/ 23:27 < BarHarborUSA> slowcoder: kainjow. He said he was planning to open source it and I talked him into sending me a copy. 23:27 < coob> planning to? hahahah 23:27 < coob> it is open source 23:27 < coob> and if hes not releasing it, he's in violation of the gpl. 23:27 < aegray__> is he? 23:27 < aegray__> how? 23:27 < BarHarborUSA> I mean opening HIS source...well he released a copy to me. LOL. 23:27 < coob> his source is based on macpod's 23:28 < aegray__> didn't know that one 23:28 < coob> so it's probably 2% his source. 23:28 < BarHarborUSA> Is MacPod done in XCode? 23:28 < coob> macpod is a person 23:28 < aegray__> that doesn't matter 23:28 < BarHarborUSA> It makes a number calls to shell commands (eg make_fw) 23:29 < aegray__> so? 23:29 < aegray__> if he copied some gpl code, his code has to be released under gpl 23:29 < coob> no shit 23:29 < coob> http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/download.html 23:29 < coob> it's based off that 23:29 < BarHarborUSA> Just saying I don't know the source history 23:29 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h145n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Success] 23:31 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h152n2c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:31 < coob> BarHarborUSA: can you upload the source you have somewhere? 23:31 < aegray__> yes...do so 23:31 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 23:32 < coob> hm 23:32 < coob> it might not be based on macpod's 23:32 < aegray__> why? 23:32 < coob> screenshot looks different 23:33 < BarHarborUSA> I just dl'd the app from the link you gave. Where's the source? 23:33 < BleuLlama> guis are *simple* to change with xcode 23:33 < coob> BarHarborUSA: in cvs on the sf project page 23:33 < imphasing> Disturbingly so.. 23:33 < coob> ok 23:34 < coob> i don't think it is based on macpods.. 23:35 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 23:35 * coob takes back whatever he said 23:36 < BarHarborUSA> Ok it's a mute point. It's getting released. 23:36 < BarHarborUSA> coob: can you give me a link to that? 23:36 < coob> sourceforge project page -> cvs -> browse cvs 23:37 -!- Vinnymac [n=vinnymac@ool-4570a034.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:39 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 23:40 < slowcoder> coob: Why dont you think its based off macpods ? 23:40 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcu74.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:40 < coob> because the internal package structure is quite different 23:41 < coob> well see for sure when the code is released 23:42 < BarHarborUSA> coob: I think it was more a matter of his wanting to clean up the code a bit more than a desire to sit on it and be proprietary. 23:43 < BarHarborUSA> I read the GNU license carefully when evaluating whether I should participate in open source. It looks like if you ask for it and he gives you a copy then he's in compliance. 23:44 < coob> yes. 23:44 < BarHarborUSA> Also there is a time frame to allow programmers like myself to get their act together so we don't put out code that makes us look like idiots (which would be what I've got on my drive now) 23:44 < BarHarborUSA> :D 23:45 < slowcoder> BarHarborUSA: Not really, but if you describe your code like that, it's unlikely someone will ask for it 23:45 < BarHarborUSA> Ok with MacCVSClientX I need a module name to check out the installer project. It doesn't want to list modules for me 23:45 < coob> erm 23:45 < coob> just use the cvs command line in the terminal.. 23:45 < BarHarborUSA> Any suggestions? 23:45 < BarHarborUSA> grrr command line 23:46 < coob> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinuxinstl co -P ipodlinuxinstaller 23:46 < coob> ipodlinuxinstaller being the module name 23:46 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 < BarHarborUSA> Cool...that works...didn't even have to resort to command line. 23:51 < imphasing> command line++ 23:52 < BarHarborUSA> Ok. This one IS in XCode (older version) but appears to be a completely different work. Now as I see it this is more code to draw on. 23:52 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has joined #ipodlinux 23:53 -!- josephduchesne [n=josephdu@stjhnbsu67w-142167000234.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:53 < BarHarborUSA> And the end result is a hopefully even more useful contribution to Open Source. 23:53 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h152n2c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:54 < josephduchesne> Hello 23:54 < aegray__> olleH 23:54 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 < coob> hi vet 23:55 < josephduchesne> I'm trying to get started with a simple program for iPL 23:55 < josephduchesne> I've done hello world :) 23:55 < BarHarborUSA> aegray__: granted my progress is painfully slow, but i'm optimistic enough to ask where i should upload once i get this thing loading on my 5g? 23:55 < aegray__> its a 5g installer? 23:55 < josephduchesne> I keep getting this error ""hello.c:21: error: 'BLACK' undeclared (first use in this function)"" 23:56 < aegray__> do you have microwindows in the right place? 23:56 < slowcoder> And linke 21 is ? 23:56 < josephduchesne> #include 23:56 < coob> BarHarborUSA: if you do get it running on the 5g, you'll see how pointless having ipl on a 5g is atm 23:56 < aegray__> are there errors before that? 23:56 < aegray__> hahaha 23:56 < aegray__> amen coob 23:56 < coob> but good luck! 23:56 < coob> BarHarborUSA: the lcd is just waaay too slow. 23:56 < josephduchesne> hello.c: In function 'main': 23:56 < josephduchesne> hello.c:15: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'exit' 23:57 < josephduchesne> hello.c:20: error: 'BLACK' undeclared (first use in this function) 23:57 < aegray__> stop 23:57 < josephduchesne> (sorry for the large post) 23:57 < aegray__> pastebin the entire error log 23:57 < BarHarborUSA> coob: my goal is not to grow old(er) creating a better installer in XCode...my goal is to HELP with 5g dev 23:57 < coob> BarHarborUSA: thats cool 23:57 < coob> but we don't need installers, we need broadcom docs :/ 23:57 < josephduchesne> where are BLACK and WHITE declared? 23:58 < coob> josephduchesne: are you writing a standalone app? 23:58 < BleuLlama> grep for them 23:58 < coob> or a podzilla module? 23:58 < josephduchesne> standalone 23:58 < aegray__> josephduchesne: pastebin the entire make log 23:58 < coob> in nanox? 23:58 < BarHarborUSA> coob: yes, once Broadcom aquired that chip they yanked the docs that described that chips instruction set 23:58 < coob> whats your makefile like 23:58 < coob> BarHarborUSA: they aquired it? from whom? 23:58 < josephduchesne> where's pastebin? 23:58 < aegray__> pastebin.com 23:59 < josephduchesne> *smacks head* --- Log closed Mon Dec 12 00:00:00 2005