--- Log opened Tue Dec 06 00:00:02 2005 00:00 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:00 -!- whyte_boi [i=kurt_cob@CPE00d009feacea-CM0011e6beb4fd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:02 < ballistix> jonrelay: yeah lol i like to set things out so i know EXACTLY whats going on 00:03 < jonrelay> As long as it's helpful to you, that's what matters. :) 00:04 < imphasing> jonrelay, except...if someone else is going to be reading the code.. 00:04 < imphasing> :D 00:04 < jonrelay> Yeah, then that's when readability matters. 00:05 < jonrelay> But when you're cutting your teeth on it it's better if *you* understand it. 00:05 < BHSPitMonkey> :S 00:05 < imphasing> Yeah, but I don't comment my code until someone else is going to read it. 00:05 < imphasing> I can understand my own code fine.. 00:05 < imphasing> :D 00:06 < BHSPitMonkey> why would i need to do "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin" again and again? 00:06 < BHSPitMonkey> isn't that a long-term change? 00:06 < jonrelay> At least he's not using random indentations... some people in my comp sci class do that. 00:06 < imphasing> because you didn't put it in your .bash-rc? 00:06 < imphasing> jonrelay, yeah, that gets annoying.. 00:06 < imphasing> I still use a java style indentation..not sure if that's bad or good 00:06 < imphasing> you need a wiiiiide monitor though 00:06 < imphasing> :D 00:07 < jonrelay> As long as you're consistent. 00:07 < imphasing> It's really annoying when someone doesn't indent at all.. 00:07 * jonrelay has a wide monitor 00:07 < imphasing> gah, I hate reading that. 00:07 * imphasing has two wide monitors 00:07 < coob> 4 space tabs, fit in 80 col. it's the way of the warrior. 00:08 < imphasing> coob, yeah..that works 00:08 < imphasing> if you go over 80 col it can get annoying.. 00:10 < ballistix> wtf, floydzilla has my game in it 00:10 < jonrelay> Why wouldn't it? :) 00:10 < BHSPitMonkey> so should my svn syntax be "make clean all IPOD=1" 00:10 < ballistix> lol well i thought that kid would at least ask me or something... 00:10 < ballistix> he doesn't even credit me for it on his page! 00:10 < coob> ballistix: welcome to gpl. 00:11 < BHSPitMonkey> or "make IPOD=1 clean all 00:11 < BHSPitMonkey> "it's common courtesy!" 00:12 < imphasing> BHSPitLappy, it's open source. 00:12 < BHSPitMonkey> was that syntax ok though 00:13 < jonrelay> Should be. And it's make syntax, not svn syntax. 00:13 < ballistix> lol that's a little annoying i guess, but its ok... 00:13 < ballistix> the way he talks on his page though makes it sound like HE wrote it, lol 00:13 < imphasing> Which is why most people don't like floydzilla 00:13 < jonrelay> Yeah, I know, that's kinda annoying. 00:13 < imphasing> but what are you going to do. 00:13 < BHSPitMonkey> heh, i was being general 00:14 < BHSPitMonkey> is this his page or the wiki? 00:14 < jonrelay> His page. 00:14 < BHSPitMonkey> cause if it's the wiki... 00:14 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 00:14 < BHSPitMonkey> boo 00:14 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 00:14 < imphasing> Hrm...I feel like compiling this web server I wrote two years ago in java.. 00:14 < imphasing> To the javac! 00:15 < masquerade> java gives me wierd feelings in my stomach 00:15 < imphasing> I like it. 00:15 < imphasing> Sort of. 00:15 < imphasing> In a tolerable kind of way. 00:15 < BHSPitMonkey> masquerade: you're not trying that weird starbucks stuff are you? 00:16 < imphasing> wn8829jc 00:16 < BHSPitMonkey> that makes my stomach feel weird too 00:16 < masquerade> BHSPitMonkey, nah, I'm not much of a starbucks kinda guy 00:16 < masquerade> the only starbucks arond for 20 or so miles is inside a supermarket here 00:16 < imphasing> wn8829jc = my java server 00:16 < imphasing> :D 00:16 < BHSPitMonkey> my friends pressure me into it...in high school, uncomfortable peer pressure situations aren't involving drugs 00:16 < BHSPitMonkey> it's starbucks. 00:17 < imphasing> Highschool eh... 00:17 < masquerade> BHSPitMonkey, so you're comfortable with drugs? :-P 00:17 < BHSPitMonkey> i was advised to try a vanilla latte... woe, if i had known... 00:17 < BHSPitMonkey> mmmmmaybe 00:17 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 00:17 < masquerade> uncomfortable peer pressure situations here involve not partaking in various beverages 00:18 < BHSPitMonkey> somebody had to be on drugs to look at their mp3 player and think to themself, "if only i could get linux to run on this..." 00:18 * jonrelay rofl 00:18 < masquerade> BHSPitMonkey, are you saying those of us who put linux on various devices throughout are household are crazy? 00:18 < BHSPitMonkey> nope 00:18 < imphasing> Either that, or curious, and intelligent.. 00:18 < masquerade> or on drugs 00:18 < BHSPitMonkey> bingo 00:19 < masquerade> I must be on a lot of drugs 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> heh, i would put everything on linux, if, you know, this was MY house... 00:19 < masquerade> well, this isn't really my house 00:19 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:19 < BHSPitMonkey> appliances on linux...get dinner going and do the laundry from the computer hole 00:20 < masquerade> but uhm, /me looks at the ipod, the other ipod, the dvd player, the playstation 2, the computers 00:20 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.190.205] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:20 * BHSPitMonkey looks at surround sound, PSP, ipod, laptop, desktop, lcd monitor, badass keyboard (musical that is, but the typing one is badass too) 00:21 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm poor 00:21 < masquerade> BHSPitLappy, you put linux on your PSP? 00:21 < BHSPitMonkey> stupid dvd player hasn't worked for months 00:21 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-7871.lns5-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 00:21 < masquerade> you put linux on your LCD monitor? 00:21 < Vanquisher> BHSPitLappy, LOL 00:21 < BHSPitMonkey> masquerade: have you kept up with the psp linux project? :P 00:21 < masquerade> why in the...I don't even want to know 00:21 < masquerade> BHSPitMonkey, I'm too poor for psps 00:22 < BHSPitMonkey> the psp linux project is the saddest one 00:22 * Vanquisher looks at is 400 WATT Stereo with 10" sub, 20" LCD HDTV, Dual Flats Connected to desktop(amd) and server, the 2 laptops on the desk, cell, ipod, ps2, gamecube, and gibson guitar 00:22 < BHSPitMonkey> it's like someone decided they were the official psp linux project, so nobody else made attempts 00:22 < BHSPitMonkey> but the "official" group did nothing 00:22 < Vanquisher> im flat broke 00:22 < masquerade> maybe I should port it? :-P 00:22 < RTG|Spitfire> PSP LINUX WHERE?? 00:22 < RTG|Spitfire> LOL 00:22 < BHSPitMonkey> their stale web site just had its domain expired 00:22 < masquerade> actually, don't encourage me 00:22 * imphasing looks at Vanquisher, who seems to be overcompensating, and feels sorry 00:22 < Vanquisher> rofl.. 00:23 < Vanquisher> imphasing, na 00:23 < Vanquisher> imphasing, acquired things over time 00:23 < imphasing> Funtime. 00:23 < imphasing> Gibson guitar++ 00:23 < imphasing> :D 00:23 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm masquerade your dvd player runs linux???? 00:23 < Vanquisher> :) 00:23 < masquerade> BHSPitMonkey, yep 00:23 < Vanquisher> imphasing, v-factor :) 00:23 < BHSPitMonkey> omgwtfbbq 00:23 < BHSPitMonkey> lol is it a media center or something 00:23 < Vanquisher> black 00:23 < imphasing> Vanquisher, ew...les paul++ 00:23 < imphasing> :D 00:23 < masquerade> BHSPitLappy, in fact, it came that way, a lot of DVD players do and you don't know it 00:23 < Vanquisher> les paul is heavy 00:23 < Vanquisher> :\ 00:23 < BHSPitMonkey> that's cool... 00:23 < masquerade> bleh, les paul, so overrated 00:24 < BHSPitMonkey> mine's a p.o.s 00:24 < imphasing> Les pauls are amazing. 00:24 < jonrelay> http://kreativekorp.dyndns.org:8080/miscpages/omgwtfbbq/ 00:24 < imphasing> :D 00:24 < BHSPitMonkey> a few years back i bought one of those cheapo home theater in a box'es 00:24 < Vanquisher> lol 00:24 < BHSPitMonkey> built-in dvd player crapped out after about a year 00:24 < BHSPitMonkey> ha 00:25 < patch6> how many minutes do you think it'll take for that to become a ytmnd page 00:25 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-7871.lns5-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:26 < imphasing> Gar, I can't figure out how to get gcj to see my outside classes... 00:26 < BHSPitMonkey> it only took me a few minutes to make mine 00:26 < imphasing> It's telling me that my classes don't exist, when they obviously are right in the folder. 00:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i made a ytmnd out of the most insane spam mail ever 00:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i read it and went to myself, " now i have a ytmnd." 00:27 < BHSPitMonkey> http://cumcunst.ytmnd.com/ 00:28 < patch6> http://mathpwned.ytmnd.com/ 00:29 < BHSPitMonkey> ha 00:29 < BHSPitMonkey> gotta do that to my precal teacher 00:30 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:34 < Funzo> if I can make the connection via usb between 2 ipods, will I be able to share files between them? 00:34 < jonrelay> What generations? 00:34 < imphasing> Man, I had a surprisingly good coding style 2 years ago... 00:34 < imphasing> this is easy to read! 00:36 < Funzo> jonrelay: its a 4th gen... I know its unsuported, but im just wondering if it will work 00:36 < jonrelay> 4g should be possible. 00:36 < Funzo> its 4g 00:36 < Funzo> 4g mini 00:37 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 00:37 < jonrelay> mini I'm not sure about... 00:37 < BHSPitMonkey> no, it's 4gB<--- 00:37 < BHSPitMonkey> 4G means a 4th generation ipod 00:37 < BHSPitMonkey> there's only 1G and 2G mini 00:38 < Funzo> its got 4gb space and at the top when I start it with apple firmware it says its a mini 00:38 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:38 -!- swain [i=walk@blk-224-197-16.eastlink.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 < jonrelay> Is the hard disk space printed on the back? 00:38 < swain> hey can someone give me a hand 00:38 < Funzo> yes 00:38 < jonrelay> It's a 2g mini. 00:38 < Funzo> the space is printed as 4GB 00:38 < BHSPitMonkey> probably won't work for filesharing 00:39 < swain> How do you remove Linux from your i-pod? 00:39 < BHSPitMonkey> use the apple updater? 00:39 < Funzo> swain use the uninstaller if you made a backup other wise use ipod updater 00:39 < Funzo> http://ipodlinux.org/Uninstallation 00:40 < swain> Thanks alot 00:41 < BHSPitMonkey> can I ask why? 00:41 < jonrelay> It's a lot. Two words. 00:42 < BHSPitMonkey> ? 00:43 < swain> think 150 is a good price to sell a 3rd gen used 15 gig 00:45 < BHSPitMonkey> heck, sell it with linux still on it 00:45 -!- hfb [n=hfb@pool-71-106-221-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:45 < BHSPitMonkey> maybe you can get some more money :P 00:45 < BHSPitMonkey> "EXCELLENT CONDITION IPOD 15GB MODDED++" 00:46 < swain> haha 00:46 < Vinnymac> Yeah, tons of people are looking for Modded MP3 Players lol 00:46 < swain> well 00:46 < swain> I was having a problem with Linux on it 00:46 < swain> i kept seeing the harddrive with the exlamation mark on it 00:47 < swain> so I wasent pleased lol 00:47 < BHSPitMonkey> did you come in here and yell at the devs? 00:47 < swain> ahha 00:47 < swain> no 00:47 < BHSPitMonkey> lol well 3G is "supported" 00:47 < swain> yeah but 00:47 < swain> if i ever did have a problem 00:47 < swain> and i sent it back to apple 00:47 < swain> those dicks wouldn't fix it 00:47 < swain> lol 00:48 < BHSPitMonkey> it's not hard to get it off 00:48 < BHSPitMonkey> before you send it back 00:48 < swain> yeah i just restored factory settings 00:48 < swain> so im waiting for my 3000 songs to go back on 00:48 < swain> lol 00:52 -!- swain [i=walk@blk-224-197-16.eastlink.ca] has quit [] 00:53 < imphasing> woo, snow++ 00:53 < patch6> Can source code for an ARM application be ported to the Ipod with little difficulty? 00:54 < josh_> patch6: depends on the app 00:54 < Vinnymac> Does anyone know how to fix an updated iPod...I updated it and IpodLinux stopped working so I was wondering do I need to reinstall it? 00:54 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:54 < josh_> Vinnymac: yes, you need to reinstall it. 01:00 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 01:01 < Vinnymac> thx 01:01 < jonrelay> the audience is listening 01:01 < josh_> jonrelay: ? 01:02 < jonrelay> Isn't that the slogan for THX? 01:02 < josh_> ah 01:02 < josh_> yes 01:02 < josh_> didn't see the connection there :P 01:02 < Vinnymac> Do I gotta uninstall first? 01:02 < josh_> Vinnymac: nope 01:02 < josh_> just reinstall like it's a new iPod 01:03 < Vinnymac> K thx 01:03 < Vinnymac> I wish i knew this a few months ago ;( 01:03 < Vinnymac> Ur the most help I've get in this channel in awhile for my ipod lol 01:04 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:06 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:11 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:11 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:14 -!- Vanquisher is now known as redeefanboy 01:15 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool252-77.nas5.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:15 -!- redeefanboy is now known as Vanquisher 01:24 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:24 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 -!- Tian2 [n=NN@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:34 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@ACA9C51B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@ACA9C51B.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:35 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@ACA9C51B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:36 < nerdjesus1> Hey, is there any mirror for the Poweroff Beta .zip file? The one linked to on http://ipodlinux.org/Poweroff_beta isn't working. 01:38 -!- Laptricity [n=444@ip70-162-12-24.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 < nerdjesus1> Anyone have an answer? 01:41 < jonrelay> It works for me. 01:41 < nerdjesus1> Really? Hmm... 01:42 < Funzo> me too 01:42 < jonrelay> Try again. If it still doesn't work: http://kreativekorp.dyndns.org:8080/iota/poweroff_beta.zip 01:43 -!- zerock [n=zerock@65.23.225.83] has joined #ipodlinux 01:44 < nerdjesus1> Why not just use that link you sent (jonrelay) in the first place? XD 01:44 < nerdjesus1> I'll check the other link too though. 01:44 -!- zerock [n=zerock@65.23.225.83] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:45 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has quit ["Ctl+Alt+deleet"] 01:45 < nerdjesus1> Nope, still didn't work for me. Ah well. I got that other copy from you anyway. 01:46 < jonrelay> Hmm, strange. 01:48 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@ACA9C51B.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:48 -!- Zol [n=NN@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:57 -!- clawfinger is now known as clawfinger_ 01:59 < Vinnymac> My iPod is having a warning message...I just tried installing iPod Linux any clue how I can uninstall it ? 01:59 -!- clawfinger_ is now known as clawfinger 02:00 < Z_Man> Vinnymac, dd the firmware back 02:01 < Z_Man> or are you a Winblows user? 02:01 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:04 < patch6> what's the message 02:04 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 -!- max [i=max@70.27.200.59] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 -!- Zol [n=NN@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 < Zol> d 02:08 < jonrelay> w 02:08 < Zol> i 02:08 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:09 < courtc> h 02:09 < patch6> trying to make a graphical interface for ipod with next to no linux experience.. he;p 02:09 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 < courtc> "please" ? 02:10 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 < courtc> What exactly are you attempting? 02:10 < patch6> please, yes 02:10 < patch6> graphical interface for the chess program "crafty" 02:11 < courtc> And you want it to be a pz2 module I assume? 02:11 < max> That's a little ... ambitious? 02:11 < patch6> the chess engine is compiled and executable from ipod, the next part is a graphic interface 02:11 < patch6> podzilla legacy or pz2 whichever one would be easiest 02:12 < courtc> ok, pz2 then. Are you familiar with programming GUIs? 02:12 < patch6> I have some visual basic experience, but that might not carry over well 02:13 < courtc> no, not really. I assume you have a solid background in C? 02:13 < patch6> sketchy 02:14 < max> That's a pretty ambitious project then :) 02:15 < courtc> OK, well I can't help you there. I can point you to a pz2 tutorial though: http://ipodlinux.org/Modifying_Podzilla 02:16 < courtc> You'll probbaly want to look at the pz2 API reference also, which is at: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/pz2-api.pdf Aditionally, the TTK (the toolkit on which pz2 is built) API reference is at: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-api.pdf 02:16 < patch6> sure it's ambitious, but I'm willing, and the learning process is fun :D 02:17 < patch6> thanks for the links 02:18 < courtc> yup. 02:19 < max> So, woo. I booted linux on my mini1g today. 02:19 < max> Quite nifty. Didn't play m3ps so well :) 02:19 * courtc grumbles something about mpd 02:22 * max grumbles something about not particularly caring... Was suitably impressed. 02:23 < courtc> add ogg nad gapless on top of that, with a usable interface. 02:23 < courtc> and* 02:23 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray_ 02:23 < max> Is ogg actually working decently? 02:23 < max> Because that's my primary motivation for ever switching. 02:23 < max> I have 300+ ripped cds in ogg 02:24 -!- Tian2 [n=NN@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:24 < courtc> It works, but is rather cpu intensive and tends to monopolize cpu time. 02:26 < max> I'll wait for a little mor epolish. I also might look into helping with rockbox 02:27 < Nappers> hey courtc, has there been any improvements over the last few months to the mpd binary itself, or have you been mainly working on mpdc? 02:27 < courtc> mpdc mostly. I'm trying to get coob to work on mpd ;) 02:28 < Nappers> haha, fair enough :P 02:28 < courtc> He doesn't have an x86 though, so I might have to delve into it before too long... 02:29 < Nappers> yeah, that makes things a bit tricky 02:30 < Nappers> it would be nice to get mpd running properly, at the moment it usually chews up too much ram and actually prevents pz2 from starting 02:31 < courtc> Hmm? not for me. 02:31 < courtc> oh, I have a trimmed mpd I think.. 10MB buffer instead of 16MB 02:32 < Nappers> oh, that would probably do it 02:32 < Nappers> does mpd's memory footprint depend much on the playlist size? 02:32 < courtc> I don't know really. 02:32 < courtc> It'd be interesting to see some numbers. 02:33 < Nappers> I'm just trying it now with different playlist sizes... 02:33 < Nappers> hmm, well for a single artist ~50 songs it seems fine, but it seems a bit borderline with around 1500 songs 02:35 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@h14.77.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:40 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 -!- Lennox [n=Trent@68-187-152-183.dhcp.stcl.mn.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:44 -!- Kingstone [n=sg1@195.226.51.74] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:47 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:48 < joecool> courtc: you using a new build of mpd or something for pz2? 02:48 < joecool> because the old one does not connect anymore 02:48 < courtc> nope, same build. 02:49 < courtc> There should be a mpd module soon enough. 02:49 < burnhamd> how can i upload the ogg files I have into the itunesdb so that I can listen to them with mpd 02:49 < joecool> i was wondering that exact same thing, i thought it was a conflict or something 02:49 < burnhamd> besides winamp 02:49 < burnhamd> i dont have windows 02:50 < jonrelay> Isn't there a patch for iTunes that lets it import oggs? 02:50 < courtc> burnhamd: mpd scans files in by itself, they don't need to be in the iTunesDB 02:50 < burnhamd> oh i thought it imported through the itunesdb to mpd database converter 02:50 < burnhamd> my bad 02:51 < burnhamd> i thought it made a new mpd db on each start up 02:51 < courtc> It has a iTunesDb sanner, but it's a bit buggy. 02:51 < courtc> nope. 02:52 < joecool> courtc: does the startup need to sleep before initializing pz2 after mpd? 02:52 < burnhamd> yea it doesnt handle podcasts does it 02:53 < courtc> joecool: shouldn't. 02:53 < Vinnymac> Does anyone know what it means if your iPod Shows the Loading Apple. Then shows a Warning sign with a Folder and then shuts off? 02:53 < joecool> means you fucked the firmware up 02:54 < joecool> ffs.. these kittens are from hell.. every plug in this office has bite marks on it 02:54 < Vinnymac> If I use the updater will everything be fixed? 02:54 < joecool> yeah 02:54 -!- max [i=max@70.27.200.59] has quit [] 02:55 < Vinnymac> Thank GOD!!! 02:55 < Vinnymac> I just backed up like 20 gigs of the hard drive onto my computer cuz i got scared 02:55 < BHSPitMonkey> now now, joecool isn't god 02:56 < Vinnymac> HAHAHAHA 02:56 < Vanquisher> lol 02:56 < ballistix> not that funny 02:57 -!- L1 [n=chatzill@nebula.vortex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:57 < BHSPitMonkey> this is true 02:57 < Vanquisher> joecool was never god 02:57 < joecool> Vanquisher: shows what you know :P 02:57 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has quit [Client Quit] 02:57 < BHSPitMonkey> and joecool, at least the kittens are smart enough to know how to get rid of themselves 02:58 -!- Dave85 [n=asdasd@host74.201-252-22.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 < joecool> yes 02:58 < Dave85> hi 02:58 < aegray_> bye 02:58 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc__@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 * BHSPitMonkey remembers Christmas Vacation 02:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 02:58 < joecool> i'm hoping they'll finally get through a cable 02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> rrreaawrr 02:58 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 < joecool> davidc__: hey 02:58 -!- burnhamd [n=burnhamd@h14.77.102.166.ip.alltel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:58 < Dave85> i have a question 02:58 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:58 < joecool> Dave85: shoot 02:58 < Dave85> i want to install ipodlinux in my ipod 5g 02:58 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has joined #ipodlinux 02:59 < aegray_> why? 02:59 < Vinnymac> Where can I get the Ipod firmware updater. I used to have it but my laptop broke :( 02:59 < aegray_> Dave85: why? 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> Vinnymac: apple.com 02:59 < Dave85> because i want to have linux on my ipod 02:59 < L1> Greetings. Was the nano build ever changed so the default root mount is -noatime (to avoid unnecessary flash writes)? Thanks. 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> does you no good on a 5G 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> unless you're a developer... 02:59 < aegray_> Dave85: don't bother 02:59 < Dave85> i see the nano work 02:59 < Dave85> but on the page is unsuported 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> nano != 5G 03:00 < Dave85> yes 03:00 < Vinnymac> lol neva mind 03:00 < Vinnymac> http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ 03:00 < Dave85> but on the page is unsuported 03:00 < Dave85> the nano 03:00 < aegray_> 5g is even more unsupported 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> exactly 03:00 < Dave85> have any tip for install on the 5g? 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> just one 03:00 < courtc> Don't. 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> don't.. 03:00 < wizatcomp> Dave85: wait a while until it's stable and working 03:00 < jonrelay> iPL will work on nano. iPL will NOT work on 5g, no matter what. 03:00 < courtc> Well... 03:01 < BHSPitMonkey> ssh 03:01 < Dave85> nothing work on 5g? 03:01 < BHSPitMonkey> leave it at that 03:01 < jonrelay> (for the sake of simplification) 03:01 < patch6> <3 mozilla's spontaneous freeze function, especially with 20 windows open 03:01 < joecool> not yet.. your face will friggin melt if you try it 03:01 < wizatcomp> patch6: get the sessionsaver plugin 03:01 < BHSPitMonkey> and that is not a metaphor for ANYTHING 03:01 < courtc> patch6: get a usable browser. 03:01 < patch6> wish I'd known that about 10 mins ago :/ thanks 03:01 < Dave85> nothing work on 5g? 03:02 < BHSPitMonkey> no 03:02 < jonrelay> nothing 03:02 < wizatcomp> patch6: set the options so that iw asks you when you start up FF as well as close FF 03:02 < BHSPitMonkey> NO COSAS! 03:02 < jonrelay> You're missing the opening exclamation mark. 03:02 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 < jonrelay> ¡NO COSAS! 03:02 < jonrelay> ¡NADA! 03:03 -!- Dave85 [n=asdasd@host74.201-252-22.telecom.net.ar] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:03 < BHSPitMonkey> AiAiAi! 03:03 < aegray__> stop 03:03 < L1> Bippidy Boo. . Was the nano build ever changed so the default root mount is -noatime (to avoid unnecessary flash writes)? 03:03 < ballistix> aegray__: lol how was school? did you fix that bug? 03:03 < aegray__> at 7am 03:03 < ballistix> haha 03:03 < ballistix> i bet you're tired 03:03 < aegray__> L1 - thats in the rc file 03:04 < aegray__> each person has to do that for themselves 03:04 < Vinnymac> After I fix the firmware. If I reinstall iPod Linux everything will work fine correct :) 03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> i solved my own problem this time 03:04 < L1> aegray - ok, I'll pass that along, thanks. 03:04 < aegray__> np 03:04 < BHSPitMonkey> turns out my pc wasn't writing the rc correctly...funny huh... 03:04 < ballistix> what's the ttk equivalent of new_message_window? 03:04 -!- L1 [n=chatzill@nebula.vortex.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 03:05 < aegray__> isn't there an api doc or something? 03:05 < jonrelay> I'm not sure, but I think it's... new_message_window. 03:05 < ballistix> yeah but i thought someone might know... 03:05 < jonrelay> Try it. 03:05 < ballistix> lol it's already in there, but kaboom isn't ready for compiling yet. 03:05 < ballistix> so it won't be tried until kaboom is ready for compiling 03:07 < josh_> ballistix: pz_message() 03:07 < jonrelay> Ah, there you go. 03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> got an error make'ing pz2, pasting in .flood... 03:09 < courtc> also pz_warning(), pz_error(), iinm 03:13 < joecool> do i really need the ln -s lines in rc? 03:13 < joecool> does it wipe them after every reboot? 03:14 < jonrelay> You only need the ln -s lines once. 03:14 < joecool> how about the mknod ones? 03:14 < BHSPitMonkey> joecool: very concerned about disk space? 03:14 < joecool> ram usage 03:14 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 03:15 < joecool> i want it to do as little as possible.. i can't figure out why mpd isn't working 03:15 -!- Laptricity [n=444@ip70-162-12-24.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:16 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:19 -!- kashi [n=suma_hir@85.193.12.61.ap.seikyou.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 03:20 -!- Laptricity [i=timbet__@149.169.23.197] has joined #ipodlinux 03:22 < joecool> i did see a /dev/hda not found thing somewhere in the startup 03:22 < BHSPitMonkey> that's it 03:22 < BHSPitMonkey> you need a hard drive 03:23 < joecool> well.. do i need to mknod it? and if so.. how/ 03:23 < joecool> and how is it even mounting the ipod without it 03:23 < joecool> lol 03:24 < jonrelay> I think you need the mknod. 03:24 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:25 < ballistix> if you recieve the mknod, it means that everything's good to go 03:26 < joecool> these are the only ones i *had* 03:26 < joecool> #mknod /dev/ttyp0 c 3 0 03:26 < joecool> #mknod /dev/ttyp1 c 3 0 03:27 < joecool> so.. whats the /dev/hda one? 03:27 < joshk> b 3 0 03:28 < joecool> do i need to mknod partitions too? 03:28 -!- Vinnymac [i=WinNT@ool-4570a034.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.53=-"] 03:29 < joshk> probably 03:29 < joshk> b 3 1 == hda1, etc. 03:29 < joecool> k 03:29 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 03:30 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:31 < BHSPitMonkey> when i "make" pz2, the difference between IPOD=1 and IPOD=0 is only in the single "podzilla" file right? 03:31 < joecool> oh god.. that made things worse 03:32 < joecool> now the modules won't mount 03:33 < BHSPitMonkey> hahah 03:33 < BHSPitMonkey> vortex wip just crashed 03:33 < BHSPitMonkey> vortex<<<<<< joshk: better idea.. how about ln -s the shit in /dev/discs to /dev/hdxy 03:35 -!- jedix [n=jedix@CPE0050da1eee90-CM000a73a144c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:35 < joshk> joecool: that works too 03:36 < joshk> i didn't know you had devfs going :p 03:36 < joecool> i didn't know i did either 03:36 -!- jedix [n=jedix@CPE0050da1eee90-CM000a73a144c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:37 < ballistix> vortex doesn't have a segementation fault with me 03:45 -!- BeOSMrX [n=user@S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:46 < BeOSMrX> is josh_ here ? 03:46 < BeOSMrX> I would need his help in this linux thing I am doing opera won't start and it suddenly happend yesterday 03:46 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 03:47 < joecool> joshk: it seems.. if i do make the symlinks right... the modules fail to load 03:47 < joecool> but when its pointing nowhere.. nothing bitches 03:47 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:47 * joecool takes part of that back 03:48 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 03:50 < BHSPitMonkey> aw 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> i lost my stock white headphones! 03:51 < BleuLlama> bhsp: you need to make clean 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> ? 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 03:51 < BleuLlama> and rebuild everything if you're switching between ipod and desktop builds 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> make clean my room maybe 03:51 < BleuLlama> 03:31 < BHSPitMonkey> when i "make" pz2, the difference between IPOD=1 and IPOD=0 is only in the single "podzilla" file right? 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 03:51 < BleuLlama> no. all of the .o files need to be rebuilt 03:51 < BleuLlama> which is why the vortex module crashed on you 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 03:52 < BHSPitMonkey> probably easier to have to separate svn checkouts... 03:52 < BleuLlama> the pdzilla made for your desktop is trying to read the vortex.o made for your ipod. different architectures 03:53 < jonrelay> Doesn't the iPod version compile to vortex.mod.o though? 03:53 < BHSPitMonkey> no modules work on my ipod anyway 03:53 < BHSPitMonkey> i get a series of errors 03:53 < BleuLlama> no. just "make clean" "make IPOD=1" or "make clean" "make" 03:53 < BHSPitMonkey> problems with symbols 03:53 < BleuLlama> anyway... 03:54 * BleuLlama brb 03:59 < ballistix> say i've got a function called kaboom_do_draw(TWidget *this, ttk_surface srf); 03:59 < ballistix> how would i call it? 03:59 < ballistix> kaboom_do_draw(TWidget *this, ttk_surface srf);? 03:59 < jonrelay> Don't call it. 03:59 < ballistix> wtf? 04:00 < jonrelay> Set this->dirty=1; and ttk will do it for you. 04:00 < aegray__> it gets called by the system 04:00 < ballistix> oh ok... 04:00 < ballistix> aegray__: permission to pm? 04:00 < aegray__> yep 04:01 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 04:01 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 04:06 -!- patch6 [i=oeu@d207-216-210-114.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 04:07 < imphasing> I aint fungifued about no legrafication no how! 04:08 < aegray__> hmm 04:08 < aegray__> HRM 04:09 < jonrelay> What is the data structure of a ttk_color? 04:09 < imphasing> look in the API 04:09 < jonrelay> It isn't in there. 04:09 < jonrelay> Or at least I don't see it. 04:09 < imphasing> Hm.. 04:10 < imphasing> Look in the source then 04:10 < imphasing> It's bound to be there 04:10 < imphasing> :D 04:10 < BleuLlama> what are you talking about? it's defined in ttk.h 04:11 < jonrelay> Uhh, no it's not. 04:11 < jonrelay> Looking in the files included from there... 04:11 < BleuLlama> line 84 of 414 is one definition 04:11 < BleuLlama> line 120 for nano-x 04:12 < jonrelay> For nano-X? 04:12 < BleuLlama> tools/ttk/src/ttk 04:12 < BleuLlama> /ttk.h 04:12 < jonrelay> Aha! 04:12 < jonrelay> Missed a subdirectory there. 04:12 < joecool> argh 04:12 < joecool> ok, what the fuck's goin on? 04:13 < joecool> i'm gettin weird errors 04:13 < joecool> h/o 04:13 < jonrelay> There we go. :P 04:13 < ballistix> BleuLlama: permission to pm? 04:13 < joecool> 5849977 04:13 < joecool> that error 04:13 < joecool> all modules 04:13 < BleuLlama> if it's pz/ttk related, ask in channel 04:13 < ballistix> im going to have to copy + paste a fair bit 04:14 < aegray__> pastebin it 04:14 < joecool> lol.. TTK is reminding me of windows, spewing out cryptic error numbers 04:14 < BleuLlama> yeah. pastebin. i don't have scrollback here 04:14 < joecool> oh LOL 04:14 < joecool> mount: program too big 04:14 < joecool> ^^ 04:14 < joecool> thats my error 04:15 < jonrelay> Hmm, for SDL ttk_color is a Uint32, for nano-X it's a GR_COLOR; those aren't compatible types. :( 04:15 < ballistix> ok 04:15 < ballistix> http://pastebin.com/450517 04:15 < ballistix> thats the source for kaboom ported as far as i could get it 04:16 < ballistix> the only errors that i am having now is when i call something like kaboom_do_draw(TWidget *this, ttk_surface srf) 04:16 < ballistix> i know thats not right (i think) 04:16 < jonrelay> Why are you calling the draw function!? 04:16 < jonrelay> Don't do that! 04:16 < ballistix> and the error is error: syntax error before "TWidget" 04:16 < ballistix> there are other draw functions as well 04:16 < ballistix> like man_draw 04:16 < iPL-SVN> coob * tools/libipod/ (8 files): Initial import of libipod (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/406) 04:17 < jonrelay> kaboom_do_draw calls man_draw, right? 04:17 < ballistix> yep 04:17 < jonrelay> OK. Call man_draw. Don't call kaboom_do_draw. 04:18 < jonrelay> TTK calls kaboom_do_draw *for*you*. 04:18 -!- patch6 [i=oeu@d207-216-210-114.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 < ballistix> yes, and im calling it with man_draw(PzWidget *wid, ttk_surface srf) 04:18 < jonrelay> What are the parameters passed to kaboom_do_draw? 04:19 < jonrelay> this and srf, right? 04:19 < aegray__> calling it with that? 04:19 < ballistix> static void kaboom_do_draw(TWidget *this, ttk_surface srf) 04:19 < jonrelay> Call it with man_draw(this, srf); 04:19 < ballistix> ok 04:19 < aegray__> this? 04:19 < ballistix> thank you 04:19 < aegray__> is this c++? 04:19 < jonrelay> No, it's TTK. 04:19 < ballistix> and jonrelay: what about events such as timer? 04:19 < aegray__> ttk has a this? 04:19 < jonrelay> No, 'this' is just being used as a variable name. 04:20 < aegray__> oh 04:20 < ballistix> how do i call kaboom_do_draw from an event? (such as timer tick or keypress?) 04:20 < ballistix> do i set dirty flag? 04:20 < jonrelay> Yes, set the dirty flag. 04:20 < ballistix> ok 04:20 < ballistix> cool 04:20 < ballistix> ill try now 04:21 < joecool> well... 04:21 -!- BleuL [n=sdl@67-138-73-38.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:21 < joecool> i fucked the /dev/ directory it seems 04:21 < joecool> which is amazing since its mounted 04:22 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:22 -!- BleuL is now known as BleuLlama 04:25 * imphasing is tempted not to do all his homework because it's finals week 04:30 < ballistix> FINALLY kaboom compiled 04:30 < ballistix> now will be the test to see if it works 04:32 * jonrelay crosses fingers 04:32 < ballistix> hahahaha kaboom gives a segmentation fault as soon as it is opened 04:33 < ballistix> i think its cause of this 04:33 < ballistix> kaboom.c:419: warning: passing arg 2 of `ttk_surface_get_dimen' makes pointer from integer without a cast 04:33 < ballistix> kaboom.c:419: warning: passing arg 3 of `ttk_surface_get_dimen' makes pointer from integer without a cast 04:33 < ballistix> kaboom.c:426: warning: passing arg 3 of `pz_add_widget' from incompatible pointer type 04:33 < jonrelay> Yeah, I think so too. 04:33 < ballistix> i was hoping that it wouldn't be but it is 04:34 < jonrelay> On line 419 make sure you have & before the x and y variables. 04:34 < ballistix> thanks, thats what i forgot 04:35 < ballistix> im gonna try with just this error kaboom.c:426: warning: passing arg 3 of `pz_add_widget' from incompatible pointer type 04:35 * ballistix crosses fingers 04:36 < ballistix> haha holy shit it actually somewhat works 04:36 < jonrelay> What are you passing to arg 3 of pz_add_widget? 04:36 < ballistix> event_kaboom 04:36 < jonrelay> What's that declared as? 04:38 < ballistix> int event_kaboom (TWidget *this, ttk_surface srf, PzEvent *ev) 04:38 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:38 < ballistix> i've been messing around with it but i have to add some other stuff as well 04:38 < ballistix> but i think thats why 04:39 < jonrelay> event_kaboom should be declared as int event_kaboom(PzEvent * ev) 04:39 < jonrelay> Because that's what pz_add_widget takes. 04:40 < ballistix> hang on... 04:45 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:58 < BeOSMrX> hey someone can help me here with a segmentation fault ? 04:59 * BleuLlama plays the Burrito-Montana game for a bit 04:59 < ballistix> yeah 04:59 < ballistix> its fun as 04:59 < ballistix> lol 05:00 < BeOSMrX> plz 05:00 < BeOSMrX> .... 05:00 < BeOSMrX> I just need someone to chat with 05:00 < jonrelay> What is segfaulting? 05:01 < BeOSMrX> maybe I typed it wrong 05:02 < BeOSMrX> Segmentation fault 05:02 < BeOSMrX> well, I did some googling and found out a page that told me what the problems are 05:02 < jonrelay> What are you doing when the segmentation fault occurs? 05:02 < BeOSMrX> but the page does not tell you how to fix the problems 05:02 < BeOSMrX> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=112445 05:04 < BeOSMrX> plz help 05:06 < jonrelay> I don't use Opera so I couldn't help. 05:06 < jonrelay> Plus it's off-topic. 05:06 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:06 < BeOSMrX> noooooooooooooooooo 05:07 < BeOSMrX> I need help and only from ipox linux users 05:07 < jonrelay> Why only from us? 05:07 < BeOSMrX> because 05:07 < BeOSMrX> I don't want to argue with you on this one, just go with it mmkay ?! 05:08 < BleuLlama> yeah. opera != ipl take your problem elsewhere 05:08 < BeOSMrX> I want to talk with josh_ 05:08 < josh_> he's not here right now, please don't leave a message after the tone 05:09 -!- Kingstone [n=sg1@195.226.51.74] has joined #ipodlinux 05:10 < BeOSMrX> but seriously josh_ 05:14 < courtc> but seriously BeOSMrX, on-topic please. 05:14 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:14 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:19 < jonrelay> Is there a TTK counterpart to new_stringview_window? 05:22 < jonrelay> I guess not. 05:22 < spazzium> :( 05:22 < jonrelay> I'll make my own. :) 05:23 < courtc> umm.. 05:23 < courtc> pz_create_stringview ? 05:23 < jonrelay> Does that work? 05:24 < courtc> should. 05:25 < jonrelay> I'll try it. 05:28 < BeOSMrX> bye josh, thanks for helping me with opera. i am glad we got it working out. lates. 05:29 -!- BeOSMrX [n=user@S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 05:31 < jonrelay> It works. 05:31 < jonrelay> Thanks courtc. 05:34 < courtc> no problem. 05:37 -!- philhans__ [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:38 -!- philhans__ [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:44 < Aik> man, reading the backlog in this channel is painful at times 05:44 < BleuLlama> at times? 05:53 < jedix> yeah, generally the times when you do it. 05:57 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:00 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@67-138-73-38.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:06 < jonrelay> wtf? 06:06 < jonrelay> I can't edit Periodic_Table on the wiki 06:06 < ballistix> lol 06:06 < jonrelay> because it has the word "mass", which contains "ass", which is blocked by a spam filter. 06:06 < jonrelay> wtf? 06:06 < ballistix> HAHAHAHAHA 06:07 < josh_> hahaha 06:08 < jonrelay> I edited it so now it says "ma ss". :P 06:08 < ballistix> <_< i thought you couldn't edit it 06:08 < josh_> try mass 06:08 < jonrelay> That works. :) 06:08 < jonrelay> Thanks. :) 06:09 < josh_> n/p 06:09 < josh_> btw, pods aren't the de-facto way to distribute pz2 mods anymore - we got too many problems with clashing busyboxes, kernels, etc. 06:09 < jonrelay> (I could edit it, but it wouldn't let me save the edit if it had that word in it.) 06:09 < josh_> easier just to have a zip or tar.gz that you extract into /usr/lib 06:09 < josh_> pods still work, there's just an alternative now that requires less setup 06:10 < josh_> also, leachbj thought they were too complex a solution for the problem of module distribution, so the podfs stuff wasn't going to be able to make it into the nightlies 06:11 < jonrelay> That kinda sucks. :( 06:11 < ballistix> yeah 06:11 < josh_> agreed, but the other way was just too much to worry about. 06:12 < jonrelay> Yeah, I can see that. 06:16 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 06:23 < Aik> rr. can't get mpd to run on the ipod itself. is the wiki correct? 06:23 < Aik> or rather, it seems to run, but mpdc won't talk to it. 06:25 < ballistix> Kaboom works for pz2! 06:26 < jonrelay> w00t! 06:26 < ballistix> you said it 06:27 < Aik> hm, nope, mpd is working fine. it's just mpdc being bitchy. weird. 06:27 < Lex> Aik, my mpd wont work :o 06:27 < Lex> just browsing my music and then it locks up 06:28 < Aik> that's not "won't work", that's "crashes after a while" 06:28 < Lex> maybe "won't work properly"? :o 06:32 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:32 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 < BHSPitLappy> Aik, how did you have to make podzilla to get it to load modules properly? 06:38 < BHSPitLappy> i rebuilt again today and still nothing. 06:46 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/podzilla2/modules/cube/cube.c: ported to native ttk/pz2 calls (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/407) 06:46 < jonrelay> w00t! 06:47 < courtc> :) 06:47 < ballistix> KabooM! for pz2 is available @ http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Module?mode=get&module=kaboom&version=1.1 06:47 < jonrelay> w00t! x2 06:47 < ballistix> lol HOPEFULLY it'll get into svn... 06:48 < ballistix> anyway i have to go 06:48 < ballistix> cya guys 06:48 < jonrelay> cya 06:48 < ballistix> and have fun with kaboom jonrelay (lol) 06:48 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-77-124-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit ["blade@insider-network.net"] 06:50 < Lex> where can i get microwindows for linux? :o 06:51 < jonrelay> You can get it from the Building Podzilla (legacy) page, I believe. 06:51 -!- BamaWOLF_ [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:51 < Lex> hmhm 06:57 < Lex> 1. Extract the microwindows archive to your working directory. 06:57 < Lex> but wtf, where i can get it 06:58 < courtc> If you want to see something very nice looking, change line 249 of cube.c to ttk_aaline 06:58 < BHSPitMonkey> what happens? :P 06:59 < courtc> anti-aliased lines ;) 07:00 < jonrelay> Lex: :O You're right, where did those links go? 07:00 < Lex> links? :) 07:01 < Lex> found it from microwindows.com.. D: 07:01 < Lex> *:D 07:01 < BHSPitMonkey> smart 07:01 < jonrelay> And just as I pulled it from the wiki history, too. :P 07:02 < BHSPitMonkey> in cli, how do you copy an entire directory and its contents 07:02 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:02 < Lex> cvs is slow again :( 07:04 < BHSPitMonkey> nevermind.. 07:06 < BHSPitMonkey> hey courtc ... should line 249 of cube.c be a blank line inbetween functions? :P 07:06 < courtc> umm.. did you svn up/ 07:07 < BHSPitMonkey> oh ha i thought i did 07:07 < BHSPitMonkey> i have 2 different svn reaps here :P 07:08 < Lex> how to.. install microwindows? :) 07:09 < Lex> hmm errors :) 07:11 < patch6> has any cygwin user here gotten the ttk package to compile properly? 07:14 < Lex> :o launched demo2, but I can't see anything, only black 07:16 < Lex> evo src # ./mouse.sh 07:16 < Lex> *** info [gpn.c(176)]: Killed gpm(18481). 07:16 < Lex> :O 07:19 * BHSPitMonkey applauds aa cube! 07:19 < BHSPitMonkey> looks purdy 07:19 < Lex> i wan't it too :o 07:19 < jonrelay> You wa not it? 07:20 < BHSPitMonkey> although you can only really tell the difference when you're in wireframe view 07:23 < courtc> That's the only place it applies. 07:23 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 07:23 < BHSPitMonkey> its purdy though 07:23 < BHSPitMonkey> i had them going side by side, very rad B^) 07:25 < BHSPitMonkey> is there already a notepad-esque module in the works? 07:25 < jonrelay> I'm on it! :) 07:25 < BHSPitMonkey> :D 07:25 < BHSPitMonkey> i can count on jonrelay for everything text-related 07:25 < jonrelay> Yep, 'cause I'm the only one who cares. :) 07:25 < BHSPitMonkey> i care too, just don't have the know-how 07:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm your useless sidekick! 07:26 < jonrelay> Well, yeah, the only dev/contributor/whateverIam who cares. :) 07:26 < BHSPitMonkey> ha 07:26 < BHSPitMonkey> well you have a fan 07:26 < jonrelay> Wee! :D 07:27 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 07:27 < BHSPitMonkey> i can't wait until i can get pz2 to load modules on my nano :( 07:27 < patch6> ok, is the microwindows 0.91 version preferred, or is 0.90 better for ipod somehow? 07:28 < patch6> ttk would be preferrable but it's not compiling right under cygwin 07:29 * jonrelay tries running Cube at 1024x768, and is disappointed when it doesn't scale. :P 07:29 < BHSPitMonkey> ha 07:30 < iPL-SVN> courtc * tools/podzilla2/modules/cube/cube.c: added anti-aliased wireframe mode for color iPods; enabled color on any iPod with at least 16bpp (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/408) 07:31 < patch6> can someone tell, please 07:31 * BHSPitMonkey shrugs 07:31 < Lex> bash: arm-elf-gcc: command not found 07:31 < jonrelay> .91 might work, try it. 07:31 < Lex> the error was that :p 07:31 < jonrelay> You're trying to build for desktop, right? 07:32 < Lex> no.. :o 07:32 < jonrelay> Oh. 07:32 < Lex> microwindows whines too, about gpm 07:32 -!- Klick [i=dan@ip68-1-113-68.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #ipodLinux 07:32 < jonrelay> Then you need the toolchain. 07:32 < BHSPitMonkey> Lex, needs to be in your path 07:32 < courtc> jonrelay: yea, I didn't mess with the scaling stuff.. it sets it for appropriatly for certain screen sizes only. 07:32 < BHSPitMonkey> ...or you don't have the toolchain at all, that too 07:32 < Lex> http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain just installed them 07:32 < BHSPitMonkey> :P 07:32 < Lex> for applications 07:33 < Lex> oh yes 07:33 < Lex> i forgot to PATH=/usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin:$PATH 07:33 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 07:33 < BHSPitMonkey> jonrelay: just to satisfy my curiosity, are you also working on a terminal module? 07:34 < jonrelay> It's on my list. 07:34 < Lex> evo src # ./mouse.sh 07:34 < Lex> *** info [gpn.c(176)]: Killed gpm(18880). 07:34 < Lex> O0o.oops(): [server_tools.c(88)]: Use -m device -t protocol [-o options]! 07:34 < BHSPitMonkey> w00t 07:35 < Lex> i have microwindows in /usr/src/ipl/microwindows, does it matter? :o 07:35 < Lex> and demo2.sh almost launches, but i can see only black 07:35 < BHSPitMonkey> is the Serial option for text-input basically only for desktop builds, or has someone out there rigged up some primitive input device? 07:36 < jonrelay> Some people have hooked up actual keyboards to their iPods, yes. 07:36 < BHSPitMonkey> insanity! :D 07:36 < jonrelay> Only two or three of them, though, it seems. 07:36 < BHSPitMonkey> seems too complicated 07:37 < jonrelay> Lex: Where are you compiling from? 07:37 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm out 07:38 -!- BHSPitMonkey [i=steve-o@67.64.118.152] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:39 < Lex> jonrelay linux 07:39 < Lex> Linux evo 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 #4 SMP Wed Nov 30 17:57:55 EET 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux 07:39 < jonrelay> No, which directory are you compiling from? 07:40 < Lex> /usr/src/microwindows/ipod/src 07:41 < jonrelay> Did you apply the patch from iPL cvs? 07:41 < Lex> yes 07:41 < jonrelay> Did you copy the config from Configs/config.ipod? 07:42 < Lex> oh yes hmm 07:42 < Lex> compiled it for desktop 07:43 < Lex> Configs/config.x11 07:44 < jonrelay> So you got it to compile for desktop, and now you're trying to get it to compile for iPod, and you've done all the steps, and it's not building? 07:45 < Lex> i'm not sure :D 07:46 < jonrelay> Are you following http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_%28legacy%29 ? 07:47 < Lex> yes.. 07:47 < jonrelay> Then I don't know what's going wrong. :/ 07:47 < Lex> I'll try again after breakfast :) 07:48 -!- Zol [n=NN@S01060050bfed2fc7.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:49 < patch6> ok screw trying to develop anything on cygwin 07:50 * patch6 grumbles about io errors and other junk 07:58 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-215-52-177.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit ["So long and thanks for all the fish."] 08:04 -!- omp [n=omp@unaffilliated/omp] has quit [Client Quit] 08:04 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@67.64.118.152] has joined #ipodlinux 08:04 < BHSPitMonkey> grr 08:04 < BHSPitMonkey> i want to be sleeping but this module business bothers me too much 08:06 -!- Prot1 [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-186.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:06 < Lex> do i have to compile libjpeg myself? 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15:44 < abi> i guess your path to your ipod's mountpoint is not set. 15:45 < abi> s/your/the/ 15:45 < Storkme> i think it is 15:45 < Storkme> how can i check? 15:46 < abi> start gtkpod, edit -> preferences -> general 15:46 < Storkme> seemed to work 15:47 < Storkme> it's /media/ipod/ 15:47 < abi> oh wait 15:48 < abi> your ipod is empty right? so theres completely nothing on it? 15:48 < Storkme> there's the normal folders on it 15:48 < Storkme> although i think they might be corrupt 15:48 < abi> hm.. can you import your iTunes database? 15:50 -!- Storkme_ [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:50 < Storkme_> yes 15:51 < Storkme_> i can import the db 15:51 < Storkme_> i have to go 15:51 < Storkme_> back soon 15:53 -!- OMEITOR is now known as OMEITOR|away 15:54 -!- wizatcom [i=wizatcom@pool-162-83-98-30.culp.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:58 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-134-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 -!- OMEITOR|away [n=fdwfs@196.205.200.242] has quit ["back later, if you need me, don't cry, ~1 hour, and i'm back"] 16:07 -!- Storkme [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 -!- wizatcomp [n=wizatcom@pool-162-83-98-30.culp.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:17 -!- Bertrix [n=Bertrix@d5152BBC6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 16:17 < Bertrix> hi 16:17 < Bertrix> actually, has anyone got success with a 2gb nano? 16:17 < Bertrix> quite a lot of crashes here, but no success 16:18 -!- Stork [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:18 -!- Storkme_ [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:21 -!- Bertrix [n=Bertrix@d5152BBC6.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:29 < preglow> success in doing what? 16:29 < preglow> right 16:31 -!- Storkme [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:37 < Storkme> could anyone help me with this: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4302 ? 16:38 -!- Stork [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:46 -!- Storkme [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:47 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 16:47 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 16:47 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:49 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:54 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:07 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 17:10 < patch6> a nethack port for ipod would be nigh useless wouldn't it 17:12 < erus> nope 17:12 < patch6> is there any kind of progress made with keyboard ipod input? 17:12 < slowcoder> Wouldnt that kind of defeat the portability of it? 17:12 < erus> patch6, left right up down, cycle through commands with scroll wheel, center to select command 17:13 < patch6> if the keyboard is also portable, that would work wouldn't it 17:15 < slowcoder> Yep, and if pigs could fly, we wouldnt need airlines 17:16 < patch6> that may be so, but pigs don't make comfy seats and if you try to upholster them they complain 17:24 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:27 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 17:33 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:33 -!- madbrain [i=madbrain@20150117120.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 17:34 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 17:49 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h190n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:55 -!- hfb [n=hfb@pool-71-106-221-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #IPODLINUX 17:59 -!- madbrain [i=madbrain@20150117120.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [] 18:02 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h183n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Success] 18:05 -!- davidc___ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 < iPL-SVN> coob * tools/hotdog/Makefile: Build hotdog as a library, iPod targetting not yet complete (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/409) 18:20 -!- Klick [i=dan@ip68-1-113-68.pn.at.cox.net] has left #ipodLinux ["Leaving"] 18:30 < BHSPitLappy> yay... 18:43 -!- CIA-11 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:48 -!- Stork [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 < Stork> god help me!!!!! 18:48 < Stork> i can't figure out how the hell to get music onto my ipod! i'm using ubuntu, and the normal itunes software 18:48 < Stork> i mean, ipod software* 18:48 < Stork> i'm trying to use gtkpod but it's so impossible 18:52 < Stork> pleeaase! 18:53 < davidc___> Stork: we've never sued gtkpod 18:53 < davidc___> we write a version of linux that runs on the ipod 18:53 < davidc___> not linux software for working with the ipod 18:57 -!- Storkme [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:58 < Storkme> i know, but there is a section on the forums for that, so i thought it might be a good idea to come here 18:58 < Storkme> this is the only ipod support channel i know anyway 18:59 -!- dommox [n=dominic0@element.plus.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:00 < davidc___> Storkme: no there is no section on the forums for that 19:00 < davidc___> try #gtkpod 19:00 < Storkme> Software & Firmware 19:00 < dommox> anybody know how to install linux on a 5th gen ipod i just noticed its partly supported on the compatibility page 19:00 < davidc___> Storkme: thats for the ipod software and firmware 19:00 < davidc___> dommox: IT DOESNT WORK 19:00 < davidc___> dommox: GO DIE 19:00 < davidc___> [sorry.. theres been too many people asking that] 19:00 < Storkme> davidc__, i'm using ipod software 19:01 < davidc___> Storkme: software that RUNS ON THE IPOD 19:01 < davidc___> WE DON"T SUPPORT GTKPOD 19:01 < davidc___> THANK YOU 19:01 < dommox> look here then http://ipodlinux.org/Project_Status 19:01 < davidc___> ok.. 1. Contradicting an op = not smart 19:01 < davidc___> and the only reason I haven't kicked you is because I'm too lazy to recover my nick 19:02 < davidc___> dommox: it doesn't work yet straight out of CVS 19:02 < davidc___> the LCD takes 4 seconds to redraw 19:02 < davidc___> its not ready yet. 19:02 < dommox> ok ty 19:02 < Storkme> davidc__, okay then i'll wait until someone who knows about gtkpod comes along 19:02 -!- dommox [n=dominic0@element.plus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:03 < davidc___> Storkme: why not try #gtkpod! 19:03 < davidc___> or somewhere else 19:03 < davidc___> this channel is for iPodLinux, which is NOT GtkPod 19:06 -!- Prot1 [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-186.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:08 * slowcoder laughs 19:08 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:10 -!- Storkme_ [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 -!- Stork [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:19 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:23 -!- Storkme [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26 -!- CIA-11 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 19:27 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:27 < BHSPitLappy> yup 19:34 -!- Storkme_ [n=alex@81-86-115-45.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:36 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:41 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 < iPL-SVN> coob * tools/hotdog/Makefile: Makefile for cross compilation - needs all required libs/includes in ./xc (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/410) 20:03 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:05 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 20:17 < TrisoBoy> hello i have a problem i installed ipodlinux ony my nano and now i cant transfer music with itunes :( WTF ? 20:17 < TrisoBoy> [ my ipod disco when he appears on itunes ] 20:18 -!- OMEITOR [n=fdwfs@196.205.200.242] has joined #ipodlinux 20:21 < imphasing> My iPod never discos...he always has to break dance.. 20:22 < TrisoBoy> =) 20:26 < davidc___> TrisoBoy: you used a 4g installer didn't you. 20:26 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:26 < TrisoBoy> heu ipod nano installer :s 20:26 < davidc___> follow the instructions on the forum about repartitioning your nano 20:27 < TrisoBoy> but now it is ok i dont know why :> 20:27 < davidc___> eh 20:27 < davidc___> proably your computer being funky 20:27 < TrisoBoy> yes 20:29 < TrisoBoy> davidc__ you rox u are always here for noobs like me !!! 20:35 < davidc___> eh, I'd be here with a /kick but I'm to lazy to op myself 20:36 < davidc___> [then I gotta kickoff my home acct and all that fun] 20:44 -!- fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ipodlinux 20:44 < fernando> hi all 20:44 < fernando> i have installed linux in the ipod, but it don't reconize the *.mp3 20:48 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 20:53 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcc6e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:53 < fernando> anyone? 20:54 < davidc___> fernando: explain what you mean 20:54 < davidc___> "doesn't recognize the mp3" is pretty vauge 20:55 -!- FearaFox [n=stillfox@Toronto-HSE-ppp3720622.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:57 < fernando> davidc___: "No Default Action for this Filetype" 20:57 < davidc___> fernando: huh 20:57 < davidc___> thats odd 20:57 < davidc___> sure it wasn't capitalized weird or something? 21:00 < fernando> davidc___: hehehe all capitalized =( 21:00 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:02 < davidc___> fernando: either patch the podzilla source 21:02 < davidc___> or make the mp3 ext lowercase 21:06 < imphasing> Anyone know if there's a standard C function for '∑'? 21:06 < imphasing> (summation) 21:06 < josh_> no, there's not 21:07 < imphasing> Eh, probably not hard to write one 21:07 < imphasing> what about arctangent? 21:08 < imphasing> probably not.. 21:08 < imphasing> I can write one of those too I guess 21:11 < davidc___> imphasing - er, summation.. 21:11 < davidc___> of an array? 21:12 < davidc___> or of what? 21:12 < davidc___> because it sounds like you're thinking of a for loop 21:12 < davidc___> with "sum += element" 21:12 < davidc___> in the body 21:12 < imphasing> davidc__, I'm talking about the math operator; I'm trying to calculate pi 21:12 < imphasing> you know the funky looking backwards E? 21:12 < imphasing> ∑ 21:12 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 -!- Vinnymac [i=WinNT@ool-4570a034.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:15 -!- philhans [n=philip@128.187.142.39] has joined #ipodlinux 21:15 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-7748.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 21:16 < RTG|Spitfire> hey davidc 21:17 < RTG|Spitfire> u were about to tell me where to go for a c writing tutorial but then u had to leave 21:17 < RTG|Spitfire> u were gunna msn it to me :S 21:17 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 21:18 < davidc___> RTG|Spitfire: ummmm 21:18 < davidc___> I don't even ahve your msn 21:18 < davidc___> either someone was pretending to be me 21:18 < davidc___> or you're hallucinating 21:19 < RTG|Spitfire> no u were gunna add me. lol 21:19 < RTG|Spitfire> this was like a few days ago now 21:19 < RTG|Spitfire> lol 21:19 < davidc___> uh, no 21:19 < davidc___> I don't add random people to my MSN 21:19 < davidc___> suaulyl 21:19 < davidc___> so someone was pretending to be me 21:19 < davidc___> or you're thinking of someone else 21:20 < RTG|Spitfire> i might be thinkin of someone else but u never gave me ur addy. dammit im confused now 21:20 < davidc___> it wasn't me 21:20 < RTG|Spitfire> k kool. sorry then. 21:20 < RTG|Spitfire> cud have sworn it was 21:20 < davidc___> RTG|Spitfire: I do everything related to the project via IRC 21:20 < davidc___> I don't use my MSN for anything project related 21:21 < davidc___> and ifI wanted to send you a file 21:21 < davidc___> I would copy it to my webspace and give you a link 21:21 < davidc___> however, if you want to learn C 21:22 < davidc___> buy C Primer Plus 21:22 < davidc___> its a good book 21:22 < davidc___> not C++ Primer... 21:22 < davidc___> Its C Primer Plus - big blue book 21:22 < davidc___> good book ofr teaching n00bs C 21:22 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-186.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 < imphasing> "The C Programming Language"++ 21:25 < josh_> error: invalid lvalue 21:26 < slowcoder> Damned straight its an invalid lvalue! 21:28 < erus> brb 21:28 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 21:29 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 21:29 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 21:29 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD5E5DE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:29 < davidc___> imphasing: the C programming language isn't a great intro book for n00bs 21:30 < imphasing> Yeah, probably not..but if you already know a language, it makes sense 21:34 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-186.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 21:35 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-186.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < courtc> intro shmintro. 21:46 < Prot> no need for an intro. they all know who I am 21:47 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@AC9748C6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 < courtc> Prot: umm.. 21:48 < Prot> no need for the awe either 21:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o coob ] by ChanServ 21:51 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 -!- debonzi [n=debonzi@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["See you ..."] 22:06 -!- JoyFM [i=johannes@dslc-213-023-134-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:08 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-7748.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:17 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:19 < iPL-SVN> slowcoder * tools/ipodloader2/ (7 files): Now treats the firmware partition as a filesystem (http://tinyurl.com/bukaa/411) 22:21 < BHSPitLappy> the kewl 22:22 < nerdjesus1> spiffy. 22:24 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h190n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:27 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@68-113-223-145.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:32 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:38 -!- Beanman [n=Beanman@69-174-127-77.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:38 < Beanman> hello 22:38 < nerdjesus1> Hi. 22:39 -!- clawfinger [n=jeremydm@bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:47 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:47 < Beanman> with the svn tools directory do i have to copy that to my computer 22:48 < Beanman> to build ttk for the desktop 22:48 < josh_> Beanman: no, you access it through thin air. YES, you copy it to your computer :P 22:48 < Beanman> what are the copy and paste command line instructions 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> josh_, i access the internet through thin air :P 22:48 < Beanman> haha 22:48 < josh_> Beanman: huh? 22:48 < BHSPitLappy> Beanman, where is it now??? 22:48 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: no, you access the internet through thick air 22:49 < josh_> it has a rather large concentration of O_2 and N_2 in it :P 22:49 < BHSPitLappy> how would you know my elevation 22:49 < Beanman> is co the copy command 22:49 < BHSPitLappy> no 22:49 -!- nerdjesus1 [n=Cameron@AC9748C6.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:49 < Beanman> what is the copy command 22:49 < josh_> Beanman: what are you tring to *do*? 22:49 < BHSPitLappy> there's no copy command, and i have NO clue what you're doing with it 22:49 < Beanman> i want to be able to run pz2 on my desktop 22:49 < josh_> co = check out = get a copy of a remote repository onto your computer 22:50 < Beanman> where is it stored 22:50 < BHSPitLappy> Beanman, in the svn repository 22:51 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:51 < Beanman> yes, but to copy that to my computer what do i have to d 22:51 < Beanman> type copy /tools or something 22:51 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:51 < BHSPitLappy> svn co http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools 22:51 < Beanman> done 22:52 < BHSPitLappy> huh? 22:52 < Beanman> i typed that in and it worked already 22:52 < BHSPitLappy> typed what in 22:52 < Beanman> svn co http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools 22:52 < BHSPitLappy> so you have it 22:52 < Beanman> ok 22:53 < Beanman> where is it on my pc 22:53 < Beanman> i found it sorry for the stupid question 22:53 < Beanman> i was in my user folder 22:53 < Beanman> it was in my user folder 22:54 < Beanman> thanks for explaining it to me 23:06 < iPL-SVN> jonrelay * tools/ttk/fonts/ (Unifont.fnt[+] fonts.lst): Added Unifont from jpodzilla. 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