--- Log opened Sun Nov 20 00:00:01 2005 00:00 < IRCMonkey> thanks. yep. no bugs, can switch bet linux and apple software fine. 00:00 < ErUs|aweh> what is VMCS 00:00 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, nifty 00:01 < imphasing> ErUs|aweh, Vmax, club sweden. 00:01 < IRCMonkey> quick question. to get video on the ipod, i exported video to 176 x132 .avi through quicktime pro, not commandline mencoder 00:02 < slowcoder> ErUs|aweh: The extra CPU in the 5G for video decoding 00:02 < imphasing> slowcoder, is it a -whole- cpu? as in a fulyl functional multi-purpose cpu? 00:03 < imphasing> s/fulyl/fully/ 00:03 < IRCMonkey> dont need mplayer or encoder but it comes out upside down and mirror image 00:03 < slowcoder> Yep.. With a built in 128bit vector unit 00:04 < IRCMonkey> just copied the output .avi to my ipod in disk use, booted into ipodlinux... 00:04 < IRCMonkey> what i was wondering how to fix the upside down, mirror to normal? 00:05 < IRCMonkey> I mean i have mplayer and mencoder but dont need it to view vids. is there a simple command line thing i need to enter to fix ? 00:06 < imphasing> slowcoder, built in? that's...cool... 00:06 < imphasing> slowcoder, I bet it's fast 00:06 < imphasing> comparatively 00:06 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 00:07 < slowcoder> It should be _plenty_ fast 00:07 < slowcoder> Unfortunately, we dont know the instruction set 00:07 < imphasing> haha... 00:07 < imphasing> -that- doesn't sound fun 00:07 -!- ErUs|aweh is now known as erus 00:07 < imphasing> Apple probably wouldn't give it to you either 00:07 < imphasing> :D 00:07 < slowcoder> But, at least we have the code, and there should be an IPC interface between the PP5021 and the VMCS 00:08 < slowcoder> So we could use the code that apple uses at least. 00:08 < slowcoder> AAC decoding, H.264, etc 00:08 < erus> slowcoder what u got for this new chip? 00:08 < IRCMonkey> i think i saw my problem on one of the forums, but cant remember where or if it was helpful. 00:08 < erus> all the docs? 00:08 < IRCMonkey> anyone? 00:08 < imphasing> slowcoder, it sounds like the 5g could be the ebst iPL yet...with compressed video, and the like 00:08 < imphasing> s/ebst/best/ 00:09 < slowcoder> erus: We've got nothing really.. Except a broshoure from Broadcom 00:09 < erus> meh 00:09 < IRCMonkey> also, what other vid formats can ipod linux handle, it would be nice to reduce file size a bit using other formats? 00:09 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, only uncompressed so far 00:10 < imphasing> slowcoder, do you know the make and model of the VMCS? 00:10 < imphasing> Or is it an apple secret... 00:11 < IRCMonkey> you dont think a .mov (uncompressed) would be smaller file than .avi (uncompressed)? 00:11 < imphasing> it would 00:11 < imphasing> but the ipod can't decode it. 00:11 < slowcoder> imphasing: It's on the generations page 00:12 < imphasing> slowcoder, thanks 00:12 < slowcoder> BCM2722 00:12 < slowcoder> http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2722 00:12 < IRCMonkey> so what formats (uncompressed) had pod linux decompress? 00:12 < imphasing> You can't get the instruction set from them? 00:12 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, only uncompressed avi 00:12 < erus> is that broadcom brochure posted newhere? 00:13 < IRCMonkey> ah okay, what about the unside down and backwards, issue? 00:13 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, what issue? 00:13 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:14 < slowcoder> imphasing: Hell no.. Broadcom are heavy-duty NDA nazis 00:14 < imphasing> erus, http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/2722-PB00-R.pdf 00:14 < imphasing> slowcoder, well that sucks... 00:14 < erus> is this something i will have seen before? 00:14 < imphasing> erus, I don't know what you've seen 00:14 < imphasing> so I can't tell you 00:15 < IRCMonkey> when i copy 176x132 .avi to my ipod in disk use, then reboot into ipodlinux to view under file browser, it loads and plays vid upside down and backwards (mirror image) 00:15 < erus> if i open a .pdf in firefox. i will have to close it with taskmanager :( 00:15 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, I didn't know that was a problem.. 00:15 < imphasing> IRCMonkey, I use linux though, and it may be an OSX issue 00:15 < imphasing> not sure about that though. 00:16 < IRCMonkey> yeah ok, there is also a pixelated issue, but i think thats because of the mac osx also, so i am willing to let it go until i can test on a windows machine 00:17 < imphasing> slowcoder, that chip has 10mb of on chip ram...dayum... 00:17 < imphasing> I need to get a new ipod 00:17 < imphasing> so I can test this stuff 00:17 < slowcoder> The 60GB ipod has 64MB of RAM for the PP5021 chip as well 00:17 < imphasing> 150 mhz...this is sounding good 00:17 < imphasing> just for the decoder 00:18 < imphasing> I can see the possibilities... 00:18 < slowcoder> Dont get your hopes up.. I dont see us running our code on that CPU anytime soon 00:18 < imphasing> :D 00:18 < imphasing> yeah, but it's remotly possible 00:18 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:18 < IRCMonkey> okay, one last thing, if i plugged a microphone into the headphone jack, booted into ipodlinux and go to mic record, currently it says my hardware does not support recording, 00:18 < imphasing> So are you going to have to try and figure out the instruction set yourself? 00:18 < slowcoder> IRCMonkey: The Nano cant record 00:19 < IRCMonkey> is there a way i can update the firmware to fix...oh, why is that? 00:19 < slowcoder> imphasing: Thats theoretically possible.. But not very practical.. 00:19 < slowcoder> IRCMonkey: Dunnow.. Ask apple.. :) 00:19 < imphasing> slowcoder, yeah, I figured as much... 00:20 < imphasing> Is it a different architecture than the main procs? 00:20 < imphasing> the VMCS 00:20 < imphasing> like, broadcoms own arch? 00:20 -!- Scohol [n=scohol@203-173-3-114.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:20 < slowcoder> It's _a lot_ different 00:20 < IRCMonkey> okay, well thx for trying guys, is there anyone here working with a mac osx who has the same issues with video that can help? 00:20 < imphasing> hm...that could be nearly impossible then... 00:21 < slowcoder> IRCMonkey: Sorry. I run OSX, but not video 00:21 < slowcoder> imphasing: Unless we find the instruction set 00:21 < imphasing> without -any- knowlage of what types of instructions it could run 00:21 < imphasing> right 00:21 < IRCMonkey> slowcoder: what are u using podlinux for? are u on the nano? 00:22 < slowcoder> Well, it's probably based on the ARC instruction set, but we cant get ARC disassemblers to give us anything usefull when trying it on the image-files 00:22 < slowcoder> IRCMonkey: I'm a dev.. I use my Nano for development 00:22 < imphasing> slowcoder, that sounds frustrating... 00:22 < slowcoder> No kidding 00:23 < imphasing> Who knoes what type of extended instructions it has, that you couldn't find too... 00:23 < IRCMonkey> ah okay. just curious, is there a site to get instructions on how to play the games that were automatically installed on the podlinux? 00:23 < imphasing> s/knoes/knows/ 00:24 -!- philhans [n=Philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 < imphasing> Are you able to try writing to the processor? 00:26 < imphasing> to try out instructions? 00:26 < BHSPitMonkey> IRCMonkey: they aren't rocket science i think. 00:27 < IRCMonkey> okay well i guess i'll see u guys later 00:27 < IRCMonkey> thanks for trying anyhow 00:27 -!- IRCMonkey [n=chatzill@pool-71-247-104-170.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 00:28 < erus> lol that could do all sorts of shit ne way 00:28 < erus> and like brick your ipod by accident 00:29 < imphasing> it doesn't matter dude, you're trying to figure this out 00:29 < imphasing> it's a risk I would be willing to take for such a noble cause 00:29 < erus> cool. try it then 00:30 < imphasing> I don't have a 5G 00:30 < erus> meh 00:30 < erus> get one :D 00:30 < imphasing> Good idea. 00:30 < slowcoder> We'll figure it out.. 00:31 < erus> then you can be double cool like me :D 00:31 < imphasing> slowcoder, I've heard some people say it uses a MIPS set 00:31 < imphasing> but that's speculation too. 00:32 < slowcoder> "some people" being ? 00:32 < imphasing> A few people I know, who are a little in the loop 00:32 < imphasing> not about the ipod, but about processors in general 00:33 < imphasing> but she was just basing that on the general videocore arch 00:33 < imphasing> who knows what this one could use 00:33 < slowcoder> The general videocore arch is ARC based 00:33 < imphasing> huh... 00:34 < imphasing> Guess I/she was wrong 00:36 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:38 < erus> slowcoder didnt the broadcom site say something about an expandable instruction set? 00:39 < slowcoder> Yep 00:39 < slowcoder> That's a future problem 00:39 < slowcoder> We'd like to find the base instruction set first 00:40 < erus> send them a spoof email from there net administrator saying that you need the vpn password. then login. download all. laugh :D 00:41 < slowcoder> The write code, merge into ipl, get busted, get ipl shut down, cry :'( 00:41 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 00:42 < erus> but i will make a secret back up. and release it as. creativeLinux 00:42 < erus> and... 00:43 < erus> meh 00:45 < imphasing> erus, This is a public project, and doing anything illegal will ruin it 00:46 < imphasing> escpecially if it 'magically' has a secret instruction set in it. 00:46 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h182n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:49 < erus> what damage would broadcom do o themselves by telling us the instruction set neway? 00:49 < slowcoder> They're just all-around assholes 00:50 < slowcoder> They've been a problem for the OSS community for quite a while now 00:50 < imphasing> erus, they probably also have an agreement with apple, to not release anything 00:53 -!- Septicaemia [i=Brendan@CPE-60-225-112-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:57 < erus> why would linux on ipod be a bad thing for apple :/ 00:57 < imphasing> becuase they don't want people messing with their shit 00:58 < imphasing> finding all those trade secrets.. 00:59 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h235n8c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Success] 00:59 < twistx_> elua 01:00 < joecool> hmm 01:00 < davidc__> you know why broadcom is so tight with docs? 01:00 < davidc__> they got sued really really bad for patent infringement 01:00 < davidc__> it was one of those dubious patents 01:00 < joecool> whats the easiest way to fry an ipod and make it look like it just randomly fried so apple replaces it? 01:00 < davidc__> joecool: why? 01:00 < joecool> i just feel like having a new ipod 01:00 < slowcoder> joecool: We cont help you commit fraud 01:00 < Septicaemia> Hahahahaha 01:00 < davidc__> and so they don't release any info so nobody knows if they're infringing or not 01:01 < davidc__> joecool: yeah,,, and destroing an ipod is just wrong 01:01 < Septicaemia> I have an idea of what you could do, but as they already said, won't help you commit fraud. 01:01 < joecool> it could be worse things.. ipod is low on the apple destruction list 01:01 < joecool> if you really wanna burn, destroy a powerbook 01:01 < davidc__> any of the above 01:02 < davidc__> btw everyone - I am interested in any totally dead ipods 01:02 < Vanquisher> joecool is just jelous cuz im getting mine replaced for a new one :) 01:02 < davidc__> like ones that have been smashed / whatever 01:02 < joecool> yes.. but you could always pm me and noone would ever no 01:02 < davidc__> that can't be returned 01:02 < Vanquisher> davidc__: i got one! 01:02 < Septicaemia> Anybody feel like a bit of tech support for a Windows installation? 01:02 < joecool> Vanquisher << commited fraud 01:02 < davidc__> thing is - I don't want to pay for one :P 01:02 < Vanquisher> davidc__: then no! 01:02 < Septicaemia> The firmware never generates, but it's telling me ' "make_fw" is not recognised as an internal batch or command ' 01:02 < davidc__> basically I want to bake the chips off the mobo so I can find the jtag test points 01:02 < Septicaemia> Or something similar to that. 01:02 < Vanquisher> joecool i didnt commit fraud the thing just craped out 01:03 < joecool> i'm thinkin.. if you managed to kill the power while it was flashing? 01:03 < davidc__> no requirement that it work at all... but if anyone has one / knows of one.. most I'll do is pay for shipping 01:03 < slowcoder> Thing is, I dont wanna pay for joecools ipod next time I buy and ipod 01:03 < joecool> or better yet.. just write the hell outta the drive... zero it like 30 times in a week 01:03 < Vanquisher> joecool: na i was on the bus and it just totally froze out for like 20 min, i rebooted and got the ipod face of death 01:03 < Septicaemia> That happened to me at school. 01:03 < joecool> i want the clicking drive syndrome 01:04 < Septicaemia> But I fixed it myself.. shouldn't have. 01:04 < joecool> van always gets it 01:04 < joecool> so does pablo 01:04 < joecool> click click DEAD 01:04 < Septicaemia> Err... just copy huge files back and forth constantly from the iPod? 01:04 < Septicaemia> Probably won't do anything. 01:04 < Vanquisher> joecool: the HD didnt click 01:05 < Vanquisher> joecool: the main board fried i think 01:05 < joecool> hmm wasn't Bleullama the one who commited fraud when he wired his car adaptor backwards and fried his ipod 01:06 < joecool> so i guess we're all paying for his too 01:06 < Vanquisher> rofl 01:08 < Septicaemia> So, anyone have any idea what's wrong with my installer :S 01:08 < Septicaemia> Or.. why it isn't generating firmware to be more precise. 01:08 < Septicaemia> It's telling me ' "make_fw" is not recognised as an internal batch or command ' 01:08 < Septicaemia> Or something similar. 01:10 < joecool> hrm, i wonder.. 01:10 < joecool> i should install IPL on some nanos in the Apple store 01:10 < joecool> it shouldn't take too long and they don't watch close :P 01:11 < Vanquisher> joecool: dude they have like 5 people watching the ipods at all times 01:11 < Vanquisher> joecool: u would never get away with it 01:11 < davidc__> just create a stealth installer 01:12 < twistx_> just buy one and install ipl on it, then return it and say you didnt like it 01:12 < joecool> not true.. i went in there last time, and we were barely watched 01:12 < twistx_> they'll probably package it up and resell it 01:12 < joecool> i was even on the IPL site in there 01:12 < joecool> twistx: you know.. you're probably right 01:12 < joecool> "wtF?? this isn't ipod!!" 01:12 < joecool> lol 01:12 < twistx_> heh 01:13 < twistx_> just make it so it starts and the tubgirl picture pops up 01:13 < joecool> hmm.. we can do that with the loader 01:13 < joecool> lol 01:13 < Vanquisher> LOL 01:14 < twistx_> imagine the lawsuit on that 01:14 < twistx_> little johnny gets an ipod for christmas 01:14 < joecool> it would be on the news "and a shocking discovery today when an iPod boots up showing explicit images" 01:14 < twistx_> haha 01:15 < joecool> "Apple is now facing a $25 billion lawsuit and a massive recall of all ipod nanos" 01:15 < twistx_> i wonder how hard it would be for them to figure out who did it 01:15 < joecool> (flashes to picture of Steve Jobs living in a cardboard box) 01:15 < twistx_> haha 01:22 < imphasing> you are morons... 01:24 < imphasing> pardon my grammar, you -guys- are morons 01:24 < joecool> imphasing: haha, your grammar sucks 01:24 < Septicaemia> Yeah. 01:24 -!- b0lt [i=1000@pool-141-151-165-39.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:24 < Septicaemia> It's not really pleasant for people will legitimate support queries. 01:25 < joecool> Septicaemia: replace "will" with "with" 01:25 < Septicaemia> Err. 01:25 < Septicaemia> Yeah. 01:25 < Septicaemia> I'm not thinking. 01:25 < imphasing> This is entertainment...almost better than a movie. 01:25 < Septicaemia> Shush now Grammar Police. 01:25 < imphasing> joecool, grammar police? hah! 01:26 < imphasing> You make me laugh. 01:26 < erus> get a life, "this is better than a movie" 01:26 < joecool> haha 01:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o slowcoder ] by davidc__ 01:27 < imphasing> Rephrase like "Get a life; those are better than movies." 01:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o+b joecool *!*n=joecool@*no-sources/joecool ] by slowcoder 01:27 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by slowcoder [Knot contributing] 01:27 < slowcoder> Anyone else ? 01:27 < Septicaemia> o.o 01:27 < davidc__> er, why was joecool an op? 01:28 < imphasing> How is it that joecool an op? 01:28 < slowcoder> He wasnt. 01:28 < Septicaemia> He wasn't. 01:28 < erus> banned. thats a little harsh :O 01:28 < imphasing> A kick -is- a ban 01:28 < slowcoder> My script just makes sure.. :) 01:28 < imphasing> temporary 01:28 < davidc__> ah :P 01:28 < davidc__> why did we kick him anyways? 01:28 < Septicaemia> Being an ass, looks like. 01:29 < slowcoder> Repeatedly 01:29 < erus> dictatorship government ! :O "fiurcpk the styosrem" 01:29 < Septicaemia> .. 01:29 < Septicaemia> Anyway 01:29 < imphasing> erus, Did you not see what happened to joecool? 01:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@*no-sources/joecool ] by slowcoder 01:29 < Septicaemia> I'm still getting that error, so any help would be appreciated. 01:30 < imphasing> Are you on linux? 01:30 < imphasing> Cygwin? 01:30 < Septicaemia> No, Windows. 01:30 < imphasing> You need to use cygwin if I'm not mistaken... 01:30 < Septicaemia> It's telling me ' "make_fw" is not recognised as an internal batch or command ' when the GUI installer tries to generate firmware. 01:30 < imphasing> That means it can't find 'make_fw' 01:31 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 < Septicaemia> But it's wright there :S 01:31 < Septicaemia> ... 01:31 < Septicaemia> *right 01:31 < imphasing> herm.... 01:31 < Septicaemia> This is the 1.2 installer. 01:31 < Septicaemia> It's where it should be. 01:31 < imphasing> I havn't done anything on windows for a while, so it might be best to ask someone else... 01:32 < joecool> are there any hfsplus drivers for doze right now? 01:32 < slowcoder> MacOpener 01:33 * joecool investigates 01:33 < Septicaemia> The 1.3 installer works, but i've had problems with it afterwards. 01:34 < slowcoder> MacDrive might work as well 01:34 < joecool> hmm dataviz makes it.. i've used their palm apps before, pretty good stuff 01:34 < imphasing> Why use hfs, if you're on windows? 01:35 < Septicaemia> Ugh, i'll install with 1.3 again. 01:35 < joecool> imphasing: well i use hfsplus on linux.. i was just wondering because elsewhere I have doze boxes that would like to read it 01:38 < imphasing> ...Why use hfs on linux, if you want your windows computers to read it? I would just use fat32, and have it work fine on both systems... 01:39 < b0lt> interesting 01:44 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 01:47 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 -!- tian [n=tian@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 -!- tian is now known as Zol 01:54 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host153-20.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 01:55 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host153-20.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has quit [Client Quit] 01:55 < Zol> wow 01:55 < Zol> linux is crazy 01:55 < imphasing> .. 01:55 < Zol> i just installed it 01:55 < imphasing> funtime 01:55 < Zol> so now i'm a linux n00b, not an xp noob 01:55 < imphasing> haha 01:55 < imphasing> what distro? 01:56 < Zol> kubuntu 01:56 < imphasing> cool 01:56 < Zol> just learning the ropes now i guess 01:56 < b0lt> bah 01:56 < b0lt> slack > fake debian 01:56 < erus> suse 01:56 < imphasing> ubuntu is pretty easy 01:56 < Zol> first of all, how do i mount the ipod? 01:56 < erus> slack is more then fake dabian? is guess it would be 01:56 < Zol> =p i know, my friend recommended it as a good starting step 01:56 < imphasing> 'sudo mkdir /media/ipod' 01:57 < imphasing> then 'sudo mount /dev/sda /media/ipod' 01:57 < imphasing> it should mount it by it's self though 01:57 < Zol> it wants me to specify filesystem type 01:57 < Zol> (fat32?) 01:58 < b0lt> um 01:58 < b0lt> imphasing: that doesn't work 01:58 < Zol> (ext2?) 01:58 < b0lt> sda is the block device 01:58 < imphasing> 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/ipod' 01:58 < b0lt> no 01:58 < imphasing> something like that 01:58 < imphasing> yes 01:58 < b0lt> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 01:58 < imphasing> ah..right 01:58 < imphasing> :D 01:58 < Zol> what if i want to mount the ipl partition? 01:58 < Zol> vext2? 01:59 < imphasing> sda1 -t ext2 01:59 < b0lt> -t ext3 01:59 < courtc> sda3 -text2 01:59 < imphasing> ok, that 01:59 < b0lt> mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipl 01:59 < Zol> whoa 01:59 < Zol> ok i'll go with that one 01:59 < imphasing> do what courtc says 01:59 < b0lt> mkdir /mnt/ipl first 01:59 < erus> is itunes purly java? 01:59 < b0lt> the directions make a journalled filesystem 01:59 < b0lt> might as well use it 01:59 < b0lt> erus: um, it's java? 02:00 < imphasing> erus, itunes has no java 02:00 < courtc> or not, ext3 is the devil. 02:00 < imphasing> yes!! 02:00 < imphasing> ext2++ 02:01 < Zol> what if my scsi is 02? 02:01 < imphasing> then /dev/sdb 02:01 < imphasing> or something 02:01 < imphasing> not sure what hd's you have 02:01 < courtc> /dev/sd[abcdefghijk] 02:01 < Zol> mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/ipl 02:01 < Zol> ? 02:02 < Zol> bah 02:02 < Zol> should i relogin as root? 02:02 < b0lt> yes 02:02 < imphasing> mount -t text2 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/ipl 02:02 < b0lt> or use su(do) 02:02 < imphasing> just use sudo 02:02 < Zol> k 02:02 < joecool> mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb3 /mnt/ipl 02:02 < courtc> dmesg | egrep sd[abcdef] 02:02 < joecool> imphasing: grammar police :) 02:03 < erus> whenever i do anything java itunes locks up for like a second 02:03 < b0lt> erus: probably just java eating all your computer's memory 02:03 < erus> yes 02:03 < erus> its 02:03:26 now so im going to sleep. nn all 02:03 < imphasing> do what courtc said 02:03 < imphasing> it'll tell you your ipod 02:03 < imphasing> :D 02:03 -!- erus is now known as erus|aweh 02:03 < courtc> 2 solutions, quit using iTunes or quit using java. 02:04 < imphasing> I'd quit using itunes 02:04 < imphasing> java++ 02:04 < erus|aweh> or just get used to the 1 sec pause when the virtual machine starts???? :S 02:05 < courtc> Dunno, seems like a big sacrifice. 02:05 < imphasing> Get a new computer? 02:06 < BHSPitMonkey> Give me your iPod? 02:07 < imphasing> Not a chance? 02:07 < erus|aweh> sorry BHSPitMonkey, mum tolf me not to give stuff to hobo's :( 02:08 < erus|aweh> and not to mispell :( im gonna get 2 hours of beatings now 02:08 < erus|aweh> are you happy? 02:08 < erus|aweh> night :( 02:09 < Zol> ok 02:09 < Zol> how do i unmount my ipod? 02:09 < Zol> if i cant mount it, i should at least want to know how i can get it off that do not disconnect sign 02:10 < BHSPitMonkey> damn 02:10 < BHSPitMonkey> how can i not be a hobo 02:11 < courtc> sudo umount /mnt/ipl 02:11 < BHSPitMonkey> Zol: you can't get off that disconnect sign in linux though 02:11 -!- Zol [n=tian@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 02:11 < courtc> not 'sudo reboot' 02:11 < courtc> silly. 02:12 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 02:12 < davidc__> he prolly did sudo unmount / 02:12 < davidc__> er, umount 02:12 < courtc> haha 02:12 < davidc__> and added the appropriate force flags 02:13 < courtc> "Device Busy, eh? I'll show you!" 02:13 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: um, yes you can 02:13 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: eject /dev/sdb 02:13 < b0lt> or /dev/sda 02:13 < b0lt> or whatever your device is 02:13 < BHSPitMonkey> huh? 02:13 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 02:13 -!- marvin_ [n=marvin@dslb-084-061-148-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:14 < b0lt> hm 02:14 < b0lt> is podzilla2 not working or something? :) 02:14 < courtc> Works for me. 02:14 < b0lt> all i get is a titlebar saying TTK and a black rectangle with a grayish border 02:15 < b0lt> ok, i screwed something up then 02:15 < BHSPitMonkey> doesn't work at all on my device. 02:15 < courtc> You didn't install the fonts? 02:15 < courtc> I also assume you didn't update busybox ro the kernel. 02:16 < b0lt> not sure, i'm using the suspend version of busybox, and -4 kernel, i believe 02:16 < courtc> Yea, you need to update for pz2 02:16 < b0lt> ah 02:17 < b0lt> courtc: will the nightly builds work, or do i have to compile my own? 02:17 < courtc> There are links on the wiki for the needed bins. 02:18 < courtc> ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 02:18 < courtc> at the bottom. 02:18 < imphasing> you also need to copy the schemes over 02:18 < b0lt> i copied everything over, i believe 02:18 < imphasing> otherwise there will be no prettiness 02:30 < b0lt> gr 02:30 < b0lt> it's refusing to boot into linux now 02:31 < b0lt> i hold back at the apple screen 02:31 < b0lt> and it stays there 02:31 < imphasing> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 02:31 < imphasing> read that 02:31 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:35 < b0lt> imphasing: i'm using a nano 02:35 < b0lt> i'm going to give this a try though, using the cvs make_fw 02:35 < imphasing> ah, ok 02:39 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:40 < b0lt> hmm 02:40 < b0lt> root@alpha:~/podzilla2-zip# dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/sdc1 02:40 < b0lt> 12559+1 records in 02:40 < b0lt> 12559+1 records out 02:41 < BHSPitMonkey> b0lt: i have a nano too, it just hangs at the apple screen 02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> and josh_ did it for me over ssh, so it probably wasn't user error... 02:42 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm actually interested you got as far as you said earlier 02:42 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: that was without the kernel though 02:42 < b0lt> using the original kernel 02:42 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 02:43 -!- Barium [n=barium@odwr108094.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 02:43 -!- Barium [n=barium@odwr108094.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 02:43 < BHSPitMonkey> i used the kernel that josh built for me 02:46 < b0lt> it's probably just the nano/4g/photo/5g/mini2gs that can't work, then 02:46 < BHSPitMonkey> i believe some of those do work 02:47 < BHSPitMonkey> some of them havent been tested too 02:47 < BHSPitMonkey> b0lt: you should try pz2 with a nightly, and install the fonts 02:49 < b0lt> i used cvs pz2 02:49 < b0lt> and my fonts were installed 02:50 < imphasing> there -is- no cvs pz2... 02:50 < imphasing> it's all svn, no? 02:50 < b0lt> er 02:50 < b0lt> yeah, sorry 02:50 < b0lt> too used to cvs 02:50 < imphasing> ah, ok 02:50 < imphasing> I just thought maybe you were using the wrong pz 02:52 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h180n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 < b0lt> oh, and also 02:56 < b0lt> video playback is pretty bad :) 02:56 -!- bubbajoe [n=texas5@24-55-178-90.kntnny.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 < BHSPitMonkey> huh? 02:56 < b0lt> there don't seem to be any low cpu usage video codecs 02:57 -!- bubbajoe [n=texas5@24-55-178-90.kntnny.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:57 < b0lt> goes out of sync after 30ish seconds, huge file size, etc 02:57 < BHSPitMonkey> video playback is pretty bad 02:57 < BHSPitMonkey> disk capacity is the problem :p 02:57 < courtc> I haven't seen you contribute any code, quit complaining. 02:57 < BHSPitMonkey> i have a 5 min video, stays sync'd the whole way through 02:57 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:57 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:58 < b0lt> courtc: i'm hacking together a crappy codec 02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> yay. 02:58 < BHSPitMonkey> ...hurry. 02:58 < b0lt> need to learn how avi containers work and such, though 02:58 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: how big is it? 02:58 < b0lt> 5 gigs? 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> 5 min? 235mb 02:59 < b0lt> yeah, that's what i thought 02:59 < BHSPitMonkey> 1 gig is a tv show 02:59 < b0lt> somewhere in that range 02:59 < b0lt> i have a 4:32 clip, 218 megs 02:59 < courtc> it _is_ uncompressed. 02:59 < b0lt> yep 03:00 < courtc> What do you expect? 03:00 < b0lt> not much 03:00 < BHSPitMonkey> saltwater taffy to seep out of the headphone jack? 03:00 < b0lt> i'm going to attempt to code in mjpeg support 03:01 < courtc> if you make a codec, you have to make a decoder with COP support as well, good luck getting it to run realtime. 03:02 < b0lt> well, mjpeg doesn't seem to be very cpu intensive 03:02 < b0lt> especially at low resolutions 03:05 < b0lt> brb 03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> are you expecting to have a prototype like tonight?? 03:07 < b0lt> um 03:07 < b0lt> very unlikely 03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 03:07 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h182n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:07 < b0lt> i'm learning avi right now 03:07 < b0lt> i hate keyframes. 03:07 < BHSPitMonkey> you were just like...'i'm gonna code mjpeg support, brb!' 03:08 < b0lt> oh 03:08 < b0lt> brb need to do stuff for work 03:08 < b0lt> :) 03:08 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm 03:08 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: you misinterpreted. 03:08 < b0lt> i didn't mislead you, you misfollowed :) 03:09 < BHSPitMonkey> i didn't even misfollow 03:09 < BHSPitMonkey> i misconsidered 03:10 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:10 < b0lt> ok, i need to get some tools for video resizing/encoding, too 03:10 < imphasing> mencoder is all you need for encoding 03:10 < imphasing> it's godly 03:10 < imphasing> :D 03:10 < BHSPitMonkey> indeed 03:10 < b0lt> don't i have to resize to 176x132 first, though? 03:10 < BHSPitMonkey> mencoder does it 03:10 < b0lt> or can i just run mencoder on an avi? 03:10 < b0lt> woo 03:10 < BHSPitMonkey> mencoder takes everything i throw at it 03:11 < BHSPitMonkey> and gives me 176x132 uc-avi's 03:11 < imphasing> I can convert a full realplayer movie to avi in 10 minuites flat 03:11 < imphasing> it's nice... 03:12 < b0lt> does it install with mplayer? 03:12 < imphasing> yeah 03:12 < imphasing> on windows 03:12 < imphasing> I just apt-get my mencoder 03:14 < BHSPitMonkey> you know how mini's take some convincing to make them work right on iPL? 03:14 < imphasing> not really... 03:14 < courtc> no? 03:14 < BHSPitMonkey> the mini 1g i had took some voodoo magic 03:14 * courtc 's mini love linux. 03:14 < courtc> loves* 03:14 < BHSPitMonkey> it didn't go as smoothly as with the nano.. 03:15 < BHSPitMonkey> (i used windows installer on the mini 1g) 03:15 < courtc> boo! 03:15 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 03:15 < b0lt> is there any way to trim a file using mencoder? 03:15 < BHSPitMonkey> do you think it would have been smoother had i used linux 03:15 < b0lt> to like, half length? 03:15 < BHSPitMonkey> like i do on the nano 03:15 < courtc> yes. 03:15 < BHSPitMonkey> k 03:16 < BHSPitMonkey> it was my friend's mini, and my first venture into iPL because my nano wasnt even unsupported yet... 03:16 < BHSPitMonkey> then that weekend it worked on nano, and magic happened 03:17 < b0lt> i'm not using my old ipod anymore 03:17 < b0lt> i don't know why (it's a 4g) 03:17 < b0lt> it just doesn't look good anymore 03:17 < courtc> I'll take it. 03:17 < b0lt> it's big, black and blueish white 03:17 < BHSPitMonkey> i'll take it! 03:18 < b0lt> hm 03:19 < b0lt> i might give it to ipl to brick^H^H^H test with 03:19 * courtc ! 03:20 * courtc <-- 03:20 < BHSPitMonkey> umm, what packages does a livecd need to have to be iPL-install-capable? 03:20 < BHSPitMonkey> nothing extra right? 03:20 < b0lt> rofl 03:21 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: um, binutils, i guess 03:21 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm trying to help my friend do this 03:21 < BHSPitMonkey> but i use a linux desktop, so i didn't have to worry about missing certain tools 03:22 -!- agentdcooper [n=agentdco@170.140.219.209.transedge.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:22 < b0lt> courtc: :) 03:22 < b0lt> maybe 03:22 < BHSPitMonkey> huh?? 03:23 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: you'll be fine 03:23 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc isn't a tool 03:23 < BHSPitMonkey> he's just a smartass 03:24 < b0lt> bah 03:24 < b0lt> where do i get mencoder 03:24 < b0lt> mplayer takes like 5 hours to compile 03:24 < courtc> mplayerhq.hu 03:24 < BHSPitMonkey> for what? 03:24 < b0lt> courtc: a binary, perhaps? 03:24 < BHSPitMonkey> what os? 03:25 < b0lt> linux x86 32 bit 03:25 < BHSPitMonkey> your OS missing a package manager? 03:25 < b0lt> it's slackware 03:25 < BHSPitMonkey> take rpm's? 03:25 < b0lt> and the rpm doesn't contain mencoder 03:25 < courtc> boo. 03:26 < b0lt> i think i found an rpm with oit 03:26 < b0lt> it 03:27 < BHSPitMonkey> the mplayer package should contain it. 03:27 < b0lt> it doesn't 03:29 < courtc> I thought we already established that? 03:29 < b0lt> oh great 03:30 < b0lt> dependencies 03:35 < BHSPitMonkey> b0lt: i think you just got a bad rpm.. 03:36 < b0lt> no, mencoder really does rely on all this crap 03:36 < b0lt> i looked it up before i started installing 80 rpms 03:37 < courtc> $ ldd /usr/bin/mencoder | wc -l 03:37 < courtc> 26 03:38 < BHSPitMonkey> courtc: have you used 2bppconv? 03:38 < b0lt> root@alpha:~/dephell# ldd `which mencoder` | wc -l 03:38 < b0lt> 39 03:38 < courtc> I have once. 03:38 < BHSPitMonkey> worked? 03:38 < courtc> it did. 03:38 < BHSPitMonkey> i always get "cannot execute binary file." 03:39 < courtc> haha, type: file 2bppconv 03:39 < BHSPitMonkey> i see... 03:39 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 03:39 < b0lt> what is it? 03:39 < b0lt> lol 03:39 < BHSPitMonkey> wrong download... 03:40 < BHSPitMonkey> "PE executable for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386 32-bit" 03:40 < imphasing> lol... 03:40 < b0lt> lol 03:41 < b0lt> anyone have a link to an rpm/slackpack for mencoder? 03:41 < imphasing> rpmfind.org 03:42 < b0lt> the one i found requires like 20 other rpms 03:42 < b0lt> times like these are when i wish i used debian 03:42 < imphasing> I use debian... 03:42 < imphasing> apt-get is nice 03:42 < b0lt> other than the fact tha debian is updated every decade or so 03:43 < b0lt> YAY 03:43 < b0lt> ALL DEPENDENCIES DONE 03:44 < courtc> debian is good at being broken past stable. 03:44 < b0lt> isn't stable still at kernel 2.2? 03:44 < courtc> probably, but it's damn stable. 03:44 < b0lt> but damned old 03:44 * courtc uses archlinux for all server work. 03:45 < courtc> it's good for desktop too. 03:45 < b0lt> yeah, i heard good things about arch 03:45 < courtc> I don't really differentiate between the two. 03:45 < b0lt> pacman is like ports, isn't it? 03:45 < BHSPitMonkey> will a color pod play the greyscale videos? (from 2bppconv) 03:46 < courtc> b0lt: not really, ABS is though. 03:47 < courtc> it has a binary package manager front, but you can switch to Arch Build System for just some, or even all packages. 03:47 < b0lt> ah 03:49 < b0lt> i might try it out tomorrow 03:49 < b0lt> sounds interesting 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> that's a no. 03:51 < courtc> BHSPitMonkey: yea, um.. why? 03:51 < BHSPitMonkey> it doesn't. 03:52 < BHSPitMonkey> it just looks like a tv with the vertical hold messed up and static 03:52 < BHSPitMonkey> but i heard the sound 03:52 < courtc> You could probably get the vidoe play to play it if you wanted to. 03:52 < b0lt> you could probably convert it back to 16bit color 03:53 < b0lt> oh, and i officially love mencoder now 03:54 < BHSPitMonkey> who doesnt 03:54 < davidc__> b0lt: so before it became official it was just casual sex? 03:54 < b0lt> davidc__: how did you find out about that? :D 03:58 < BHSPitMonkey> b0lt: hurry up with that codec, will ya 03:58 < b0lt> BHSPitMonkey: meh, i'm reading the video player code for the first time 03:58 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:58 < BHSPitMonkey> heh 03:58 < davidc__> what codec? 03:59 < b0lt> mjpeg 03:59 < b0lt> i did a small project using it with a pocketpc 2 years ago 04:00 < davidc__> ipod = slow 04:00 < davidc__> mjpeg = needs processing power 04:00 < davidc__> we can barely get the data off the disk and onto the screen as it is 04:00 < b0lt> oh 04:01 < b0lt> damn 04:01 -!- karmon [n=chatzill@Toronto-HSE-ppp3684305.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 < b0lt> there are a few ultralow CPU codecs that i know of, but they're all encumbered 04:03 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm 04:03 * BHSPitMonkey dictionary.com's 04:03 -!- Evera [n=lol@pool-71-106-232-138.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:04 < Evera> Hey 04:04 < davidc__> I'm looking at rolling my own braindead on 04:04 < Evera> I just installed iPodlinux on a 4g, I experienced the folder error type thiing, but I set the backup and reinstalled linux again, and it works now 04:04 < davidc__> *one 04:05 < b0lt> davidc__: well 04:05 < Evera> I was wondering if saving settings under podzilla and changing podzilla to a different "zilla" could trigger the Apple firmware to have problems 04:05 < b0lt> a really simple one would work, really 04:05 < b0lt> best solution ever: convert from 16bit to 8 bit 04:06 < b0lt> halve file sizes immediately :D 04:06 < BHSPitMonkey> Evera: no 04:06 < BHSPitMonkey> that's fine. 04:06 < Evera> Ah k, thanks. I was also wondering about the extra things I should download for it 04:06 < BHSPitMonkey> but the other podzillae aren't supported by anyone...unless you can find whoever made them. 04:06 < BHSPitMonkey> they're buggy and lame 04:07 < b0lt> floydzilla is actually decent 04:07 < b0lt> usable, at least 04:11 < Septicaemia> Hmm, I knew an Evera somehwere. 04:11 < davidc__> basically, our policy on them is "Good luck" 04:12 < imphasing> I don't use anyone's podzillae 04:12 < imphasing> I just use the stock 04:12 -!- Gent [n=gent@c-24-128-57-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 < imphasing> modified a little if need be 04:12 < b0lt> i just use cvs^H^H^Hsvn 04:13 < b0lt> svn legacy podzilla, that is 04:13 < b0lt> pz2 doesn't seem to work on nanos 04:13 < b0lt> so i don't get to admire the beauty :( 04:13 -!- Gent [n=gent@c-24-128-57-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:13 < imphasing> It looks about the same 04:13 < imphasing> so far 04:15 < courtc> The beauty is on the inside. 04:15 < davidc__> yea 04:15 < imphasing> yeah 04:15 < davidc__> its what it can be 04:15 < imphasing> it's so awesome 04:15 < davidc__> not what it currently is 04:15 < davidc__> because podzilla as existed before was sorta.. hacked 04:15 < imphasing> pz2 is so clean looking 04:16 < imphasing> the code that is 04:16 < imphasing> and the *.pod files are a really good idea 04:16 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:16 < imphasing> Is there a theoretical limit it 128 apps for pz2? 04:16 < imphasing> s/it/of/ 04:17 < b0lt> 128 apps? 04:17 < b0lt> it's limited by filesystem 04:17 < imphasing> yes 04:17 < davidc__> 128 pods mounted.. 04:17 < imphasing> right 04:17 < b0lt> oh, nm 04:17 < b0lt> i misinterpreted that 04:18 < davidc__> but if you statically compile in, you won't have that problem 04:18 < b0lt> davidc__: why does pz2 require a different kernel? 04:18 < davidc__> because we use some kernel support for mounting .pods 04:19 < Evera> ps2? 04:19 < davidc__> in any case, podzilla has always been fairly linked to the kernel 04:19 < Evera> erp 04:19 < Evera> er 04:19 < Evera> what's pz2? 04:19 < imphasing> podzilla 2 04:19 < Evera> oh 04:20 < Evera> When i run linux, my iPod heats up quite a bit, and the battery diminishes extremely fast 04:20 < b0lt> davidc__: shouldn't podzilla theoretically be unlinked from the kernel, and be held in only userspace to prevent crashes, etc? 04:20 < Evera> Is that normal? 04:21 < BHSPitLappy> yup 04:21 < davidc__> b0lt on a system with memory protection, yes 04:21 < davidc__> but since the ipod had no memory protection, it doesn't really make a difference 04:22 < b0lt> ah 04:22 < imphasing> linux‽‽‽ 04:24 < courtc> b0lt: it's not tied directly to the kernel, but does require a certain kernel configuration to work best. 04:27 < imphasing> Does the kernel treat the *.pod as a whole filesystem? 04:27 < courtc> Yes. 04:27 < courtc> pods were designed as a simple, fast filesystem. 04:28 < imphasing> cool... 04:28 < imphasing> no journaling, and things like that 04:28 < imphasing> right? 04:29 < courtc> no write, no need for journaling. 04:29 < imphasing> oh yeah... 04:29 < imphasing> so it's a read only system? 04:29 < courtc> yes. 04:29 < coob> no write generally means read only. 04:29 < courtc> haha 04:29 < imphasing> haha 04:29 < imphasing> that would be self evident normaly, but it's late... 04:30 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:35 -!- CLucas916 [n=chris@69.254.204.36] has joined #ipodlinux 04:36 < CLucas916> hey im having a problem with podzilla on my 4th generation ipod, when it tries to load podzilla, the gui never actually comes up 04:36 < BHSPitLappy> what's the resolution of the a/v composite output? 04:37 < imphasing> ... 04:37 < CLucas916> i have no clue 04:37 < b0lt> uh 04:38 < b0lt> it's ntsc resolution 04:38 < BHSPitLappy> seriously? 04:38 < b0lt> i believe so 04:38 < BHSPitLappy> i'm surprised it pumps that out 04:38 < b0lt> maximum of 480x480 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> oh 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> i thought ntsc was like 720xsomething 04:39 < b0lt> ntsc is 640x480 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> still 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> ah... 04:39 < coob> ntsc doesn't have a resolution 04:39 < coob> it has a certain number of lines. 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> that answer makes the most sense 04:39 < coob> it's not pixel data. 04:39 < b0lt> yeah 04:39 < CLucas916> does anytone know why i cant get podzilla to come up on my ipod? 04:39 < b0lt> but it's effectively the same 04:39 < BHSPitLappy> i was interested in porting a powerpoint viewer 04:40 < b0lt> genius idea 04:40 < BHSPitLappy> how cool would that be...walk into your meeting, hook your ipod into a projector/tv and start presenting 04:40 -!- karmon [n=chatzill@Toronto-HSE-ppp3684305.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 04:40 < BHSPitLappy> i still haven't found a viewer-only though 04:40 < b0lt> you could just use the slideshow option in the newer ipods, though 04:41 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 04:41 < BHSPitLappy> defeats the purpose... i think .ppt (or oo2 equiv) support would be the shiz 04:41 < BHSPitLappy> plus then, you could actually work off the usb drive too 04:41 < b0lt> .odp? 04:41 < courtc> mng 04:41 < BHSPitLappy> i guess 04:42 < b0lt> a slideshow of mngs would work too 04:42 < b0lt> but it would be pretty kludgy to make 04:42 < courtc> umm.. one mng can do a whole presentation. 04:42 < courtc> mng is sooo processor intensive though. 04:43 < b0lt> can it? 04:43 < b0lt> it'd be automatic though 04:43 < BHSPitLappy> i don't even know what mng's are 04:43 < b0lt> mngs are moving pngs 04:43 < BHSPitLappy> i see 04:43 < b0lt> like an animated gif, except 24bit, and supporting transparancy and all that other shininess associated with pngs 04:43 < BHSPitLappy> mmhmm 04:44 < b0lt> it doesn't support all the features of ppt though 04:44 < b0lt> well 04:44 < b0lt> most of them 04:44 < b0lt> it's just one long movie 04:44 < BHSPitLappy> umm...editability...:p 04:45 < BHSPitLappy> i'm not looking for an alternative to supporting ppt's...i don't even need it...i just think this would be cool :p 04:45 < b0lt> yeah 04:45 < courtc> I think you can make mngs pause. 04:46 < courtc> anyway, it is a nifty idea. 04:46 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:47 < imphasing> just slap your ipod on an optical projector 04:47 < imphasing> :D 04:48 < imphasing> it would look like shit... 04:48 < courtc> Yea, um.. ^ not so good idea. 04:48 < imphasing> I know 04:48 < imphasing> :P 04:49 < b0lt> and you'd see the ipod too, :) 04:49 < imphasing> yeah... 04:51 < davidc__> I would just use a set of png's for a presentation 04:52 < courtc> davidc__: I think the problem is no moving crap. 04:52 < courtc> hotdog + pngs is a different story. 04:52 < courtc> I could probably whip a up a simple presentation format and parser though. 04:53 < courtc> just bezier curves n'shit. 04:53 < BHSPitMonkey> i thought the problem was the a/v-out quality... 04:53 < coob> need dtv working first :0 04:53 < BHSPitMonkey> that too... 04:53 < courtc> coob: details, details. 04:54 < BHSPitLappy> can iPL even output anything to a/v-out yet? 04:54 < BHSPitMonkey> wooooooow...i sent that message like 3 min ago 04:55 < BHSPitMonkey> before my wireless had an uber-lag 04:56 < courtc> davidc__: get it working already damnit! ;DDD 04:56 < davidc__> what huh yea? 04:56 * courtc braces 04:56 < davidc__> oh yeah, the /kick button! 04:57 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by davidc__ 04:57 < davidc__> er.... wrong button 04:57 < courtc> wee! 04:57 < davidc__> I guess that that will have to suffice though 04:57 < courtc> Ok, I'll take it as a kicking. 04:58 < imphasing> Who's getting the boot? 04:58 < davidc__> courtc was 04:58 < davidc__> but he accidentally got opped 04:59 < courtc> It hurt. 04:59 -!- CLucas916 [n=chris@69.254.204.36] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:05 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 05:05 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 05:11 < Evera> Hmf 05:11 < Evera> I installed linux, but when I use iPod in disk mode 05:12 < Evera> the only difference I see in the system is the linux folder 05:12 < Evera> I can't find the normal linux folders like sbin or usr 05:12 < courtc> They are on a seperate partition. 05:12 < Evera> Ah. 05:13 < Evera> How would I get to that partition? 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> mount it... 05:14 < courtc> On Windows? You wouldn't. 05:14 < Evera> Meh 05:14 < Evera> I guess I have to reboot 05:14 < Evera> :< 05:14 < Evera> I'll just do it later >_> 05:25 < illvm> are the dates on the blogs messed up? 05:26 -!- Septicaemia [i=Brendan@CPE-60-225-112-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:28 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:35 * BHSPitLappy 's screams echo 05:36 < BHSPitLappy> illvm: the blogs are just damn old 05:39 -!- Vanquish1r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-77.s77.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:46 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:47 < spazzium> 4th Harry Potter movie blows 05:50 < imphasing> I just head someone say it was 'teh pwn' 05:50 < imphasing> but ok 05:54 < spazzium> I dunno 05:54 < spazzium> the book might have ruined the movie for me 05:57 -!- Vanquish1r is now known as Vanquisher 06:14 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 < GphreakX> so, because of this homo in digg.com, I screwed up my nano 06:14 < GphreakX> any chance of fixing< 06:14 < GphreakX> ? 06:15 < GphreakX> or restoring? 06:16 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:17 < GphreakX> my nano says basically that it cannot find podzilla 06:17 < GphreakX> is there any way to put it back the way it was? 06:17 < GphreakX> i did not change apple's firmware 06:18 < GphreakX> ... 06:18 < GphreakX> or anywhere to go to find help??? 06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> *sigh* another digg moron :p 06:19 < GphreakX> yeup 06:19 < GphreakX> is there anywhere to find answers 06:19 < GphreakX> can any os read this piece of shit now? 06:19 < imphasing> linux can 06:19 < imphasing> :D 06:19 < GphreakX> and kill jonny west 06:19 < GphreakX> which one 06:19 < GphreakX> distro 06:19 < GphreakX> is best 06:20 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh in your case i don't think it matters. 06:20 < GphreakX> okay, are you familiar with my problem? 06:22 < GphreakX> can i mount it in linux? 06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:22 < GphreakX> and what do I do from there 06:22 < GphreakX> to restore it 06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> umm, install it correctly? 06:22 < GphreakX> the screen shows linux commands 06:22 < GphreakX> it looks like it was trying to load podzilla 06:22 < GphreakX> but couldn't find it 06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> my response stands. 06:23 < BHSPitMonkey> or use the damn apple restorer 06:23 < GphreakX> yes, ipod linux was installed correclty 06:23 < GphreakX> the apple restorer in linux did not recognize it 06:23 < GphreakX> it was installed correctly according to the windows ipodl inux installer 06:23 < BHSPitMonkey> of course it won't recognize it in linux, it's not in diskmode in linux 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> i had to refrain from being derogatory there. 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> boot to apple or boot to diskmode to use the restorer 06:24 < GphreakX> i understand, I am a noob at linux in terms of everyday use, but use it for network servers, etc.. 06:24 < GphreakX> only corportate reasons 06:24 < GphreakX> here is the tutorial i followed 06:24 < GphreakX> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3748 06:24 < GphreakX> i cant do shit with it 06:24 < GphreakX> it is frozen on this text screen 06:24 < GphreakX> never went to gui 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> reset it 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> ...dickweed. 06:25 < GphreakX> how, the apple way 06:25 < GphreakX> or is there another ipodlinux way 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> umm the hold-down-center-and-menu way 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> that aaaaaaaaaalways works 06:25 < GphreakX> i tried taht 06:25 < GphreakX> basically put it on hold 06:25 < GphreakX> then off again 06:25 < GphreakX> then hold the center and play right? 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> uh huh 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> as soon as it blanks 06:26 < GphreakX> that didnt do anything 06:26 < GphreakX> wait 06:26 < GphreakX> I am a dickweed 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> i know 06:27 < GphreakX> i did it three times, last time it worked 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> didn't take long to make that clear... 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> okay 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> yay. 06:27 < GphreakX> it gives me no options 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> huh 06:27 < GphreakX> wait 06:27 < GphreakX> i think i might got something 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> uh huh 06:28 < GphreakX> i had to do it a few times 06:28 < GphreakX> but I am back in my reg OS 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> in diskmode yet 06:28 < GphreakX> I am back in apple's crap 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> are you interested in removing iPL or repairing it. 06:28 < GphreakX> normal 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> well either way you should get it back to normal now. 06:28 < GphreakX> um, do you know people who have got it to work in nano 06:28 < GphreakX> ? 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> myself. 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> and many others. 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> who can read... 06:29 < GphreakX> is it worth it? 06:29 < GphreakX> okay, never mind that last question 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> i'd say so. videos are just too pretty on it. 06:29 < GphreakX> yes i want this to work 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> go to your ipod in my computer 06:29 < GphreakX> how do I get it to diskmode 06:29 < BHSPitMonkey> then open iPod_Control/Device/systeminfo 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> err, sysinfo 06:30 < GphreakX> it wont let me into it as a drive 06:30 < GphreakX> it sees that it is a removable device 06:30 < GphreakX> but it wont let me access it 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> why not. 06:31 < GphreakX> i double click on the removable drive 06:31 < GphreakX> and it says enter a disk basically 06:31 < GphreakX> should i use apple's restorer and start over? 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> does the nano say do not disconnect 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> if you aren't afraid of losing your music 06:31 < GphreakX> yeup 06:32 < GphreakX> i dont give a shit 06:32 < GphreakX> i already did that 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> if you are, then you need to edit a file inside the drive first 06:32 < GphreakX> to start this whoel thing 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> shouldn't have had to. 06:32 < GphreakX> well, let me get this to factory defaults and retry 06:33 < GphreakX> huh 06:33 < GphreakX> i think the update froze while tryin to initilize 06:34 < GphreakX> well, i am neither here nor there 06:35 < GphreakX> ipod updater does not work (freezes) 06:35 < GphreakX> and I cannot access the usb drive 06:35 < GphreakX> but the ipod nano screen looks normal 06:35 < GphreakX> ideas? 06:36 < GphreakX> brb, gonna reboot to see if that fixes anything 06:37 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 06:39 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:39 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-199-123.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 06:39 < GphreakX> alright i am back 06:39 < GphreakX> with no answers 06:40 < GphreakX> okay, cannot access it as a drive 06:40 < GphreakX> cannot access it with ipod updater 06:40 < GphreakX> ... 06:40 < GphreakX> kinda lost 06:42 < GphreakX> where did BHSPitMonkey go 06:42 < GphreakX> ? 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> died 06:42 < GphreakX> any ideas yo? 06:42 < GphreakX> ill let you insult me some more if you get this to work 06:42 < GphreakX> ... 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> get linux. 06:42 < GphreakX> come on, its a good deal 06:43 < GphreakX> i have slax up on my laptop right now 06:43 < GphreakX> should i switch? 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 06:43 < GphreakX> sitting next to me 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> get the ipod mounted 06:43 < GphreakX> i usually use gentoo 06:43 < GphreakX> which is diff 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> you need to be on some kind of OS though 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> gentoo is not. 06:44 < GphreakX> do you know the mount command in slax? 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> mount. 06:44 < GphreakX> i know 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> type: "ls /dev/sd*" 06:44 < GphreakX> i meant mount /dev/? 06:44 < BHSPitMonkey> on a laptop, your hard drive is prolly sda 06:44 < GphreakX> no such file or dir 06:45 < GphreakX> na 06:45 < GphreakX> it is hda, hda1 and hdc 06:45 < GphreakX> (/dev) 06:45 < GphreakX> this is my new laptop, so it is slax bootable, but I am gonna put deb on it tomorow 06:45 < BHSPitMonkey> "fdisk /dev/hdc" 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> then enter "p" 06:46 < GphreakX> hell no 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh ok. 06:46 < BHSPitMonkey> i'll get back to my stop-motion then 06:47 < GphreakX> sorry 06:47 < GphreakX> i did not read in detail 06:47 < GphreakX> i pressed p 06:48 < GphreakX> gave some info 06:48 < GphreakX> what do you need 06:48 < BHSPitMonkey> paste in #ipodlinux.flood 06:48 < GphreakX> what is that 06:49 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:50 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:50 < BHSPitLappy> uhh 06:50 < BHSPitLappy> my desktop hung. 06:51 < GphreakX> oh 06:51 < BHSPitLappy> go paste your output in #ipodlinux.flood 06:51 < GphreakX> what i said was i dont know what #ipodlinux.flood is 06:51 < BHSPitLappy> it's a channel... 06:51 < GphreakX> oh, i see 06:51 < GphreakX> i use another posting place 06:51 < GphreakX> i gotcha 06:51 < BHSPitLappy> #ipodlinux : here :: #ipodlinux.flood : there 06:52 < GphreakX> i know i am goin 06:55 < GphreakX> i cant fdisk /dev/sda or sda1 06:56 < GphreakX> but i can sda3 06:56 < GphreakX> wont let me mount it though 06:56 < GphreakX> it aint the right fs type 06:57 < GphreakX> but sda3 is definately it 06:57 < BHSPitLappy> sda3 is the linux partition of the ipod. 06:57 < GphreakX> okay 06:57 < BHSPitLappy> are you *sure* you can't fdisk /dev/sda 06:58 < GphreakX> the gui also detects it is there now 06:58 < GphreakX> unable to open 06:58 < GphreakX> wait 06:58 < BHSPitLappy> type mount 06:58 < GphreakX> i did it again (i am starting to sound like a broken excuse record) 06:58 < GphreakX> i can now 06:58 < BHSPitLappy> ok. 06:59 < GphreakX> i can fdisk /dev/sda 06:59 < BHSPitLappy> type mount 06:59 < BHSPitLappy> see if sd2 is mounted 07:00 < GphreakX> no, only thing "usb" is 07:00 < GphreakX> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> su root 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> then mkdir /mnt/ipod 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> mount -rw /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 07:01 < BHSPitLappy> use the second one. 07:01 < GphreakX> it is a bootcd, so I am root 07:02 < GphreakX> no go for second commant 07:02 < GphreakX> i cant mount sda2 07:02 < GphreakX> want me to try sda3? 07:02 < GphreakX> it says sda2 does not exist 07:02 < courtc> mount -tvfat -orw /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod 07:02 < BHSPitLappy> they're not usually substitutable... 07:03 < BHSPitLappy> just go into windows and format the whole fuckin thing 07:03 < BHSPitLappy> then the restorer should recognize it 07:03 < GphreakX> tvfat did same thitgn 07:04 < GphreakX> k hold on 07:04 < BHSPitLappy> what windows is it 07:04 < GphreakX> do I format it regular like? 07:04 < GphreakX> xp 07:04 < courtc> mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2 07:04 < BHSPitLappy> right click my computer, choose manage 07:04 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=billybob@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:04 < BHSPitLappy> go to disk management, find the ipod 07:04 < BHSPitLappy> gui should be pretty simple. 07:04 < courtc> you probably don't have msdos-tools though. 07:05 < BHSPitLappy> huh 07:05 < BHSPitLappy> o 07:05 < courtc> guis just make things complicated. 07:05 < GphreakX> i can see it 07:05 < GphreakX> the ipdo 07:05 < GphreakX> i see all my other drivces 07:05 < GphreakX> and under may computer the removable disk is there 07:05 < GphreakX> but no disk management 07:05 < BHSPitLappy> try opening it first 07:06 < GphreakX> wait, i can find it under "removable storage" in computer management 07:06 < GphreakX> cant really do anything with it though 07:07 < GphreakX> should i try the mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2? 07:07 < BHSPitLappy> like he said, you probably don't have msdos-tools 07:08 < GphreakX> okay 07:09 -!- Ozymandias [n=Rev@24.149.18.22] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:09 -!- Ozymandias [n=Rev@24.149.18.22] has joined #ipodlinux 07:11 < GphreakX> brb, gonna restart (got a new version of updater, maybe it wont freeze) 07:11 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:14 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:14 < GphreakX> okay, it now says "ipod service error" 07:14 < GphreakX> in the updater program 07:17 < GphreakX> ideas?? 07:18 < BHSPitLappy> umm 07:18 < BHSPitLappy> you just suck? 07:18 < BHSPitLappy> seriously, i'm not as experienced with troubleshooting as some other guys in here 07:18 < GphreakX> i c 07:18 < GphreakX> what did i do wrong anyway? 07:18 < GphreakX> you got it to work with your nano 07:19 < GphreakX> i installed ipod linux 07:19 < BHSPitLappy> i installed it the correct way. 07:19 < GphreakX> then copied podzilla onto the drive 07:19 < GphreakX> accordint to the tutorial, so did i 07:19 < BHSPitLappy> obviously not, since you used an installer. 07:20 < ballistix> lol 07:20 < GphreakX> THE INSTALLER SAYS "IPOD NANO INSTALLER" 07:20 < GphreakX> the tutorial i read was for NANOs 07:21 < BHSPitLappy> read the effing topic. 07:21 < GphreakX> i did not come to this channel until AFTER the problems 07:22 < GphreakX> just look at the link 07:22 < GphreakX> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3748 07:22 < BHSPitLappy> uh huh 07:22 < BHSPitLappy> well since the FORUM said it 07:22 < BHSPitLappy> i guess I must be wrong. 07:22 < ballistix> look, if you can't get iPL working, then it won't work, so dont try 07:22 < BHSPitLappy> my nano really doesn't work, and yours does 07:22 < BHSPitLappy> my apologies. 07:23 < GphreakX> dude, what is the deal? 07:23 < BHSPitLappy> lol 07:23 < GphreakX> can someone stop being an ASS to me and tell me how to restore my nano 07:23 < BHSPitLappy> the "deal"...is you downloaded an application that turns your ipod into a brick 07:23 < GphreakX> screw ipl, i just want reg nano back 07:23 < BHSPitLappy> at your own risk and recognition of the fact that nanos are UNSUPPORTED 07:23 < GphreakX> there has to be a way to restore it 07:24 < ballistix> download the official installer, and click resotore 07:24 < GphreakX> thanks, i see that 07:24 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations : Tiny Flash-based color iPod. NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED BY IPODLINUX 07:24 < courtc> in red no less 07:24 < GphreakX> tried that 07:24 < GphreakX> HELLO, I GET THAT IT IS NOT SUPPORTED 07:24 < BHSPitLappy> did you head that? red. 07:24 < GphreakX> I GET THAT I SHOULD BE SHOT FOR IDIOCRACY 07:24 < ballistix> then why are you having a cry? 07:24 < BHSPitLappy> supported means people won't help you at all unless they're really fucking nice. 07:24 < ballistix> go into disk mode, restore it, voila 07:24 < BHSPitLappy> *unsupported 07:25 < GphreakX> becuase the restore util will not do it 07:25 < GphreakX> it doesnt recognize the ipod 07:25 < ballistix> look around on the net, i remember seeing some programs which help with this 07:25 < ballistix> in fact i saw one on the iPL programs somewhere 07:25 < ballistix> *iPL forums somewhere 07:26 < BHSPitLappy> the hp disk formatter or something will format it for you so that the restorer will recognize it. 07:26 < BHSPitLappy> the rest is between you and google. 07:27 < ballistix> yeah 07:27 < ballistix> hp formatter will work 07:27 < GphreakX> i just read that in the forum because ballistix actually gave me some useful info 07:27 < ballistix> karma ++ 07:28 < GphreakX> according to this forum, this guy had the EXACT same problem 07:28 < ballistix> yeah 07:29 < GphreakX> ballistix go here 07:29 < GphreakX> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3643&highlight=restore+nano 07:29 < GphreakX> where do I get teh 4 ipod folders after I format using hp util? 07:30 * imphasing is away: sleeptime. 07:30 -!- imphasing is now known as imphasing|sleep 07:32 < ballistix> i dont want to read all of that stuff 07:32 < GphreakX> do you know where to get the hp utility? 07:33 < ballistix> i dont have a nano, i have a 30g photot 07:33 < ballistix> google 07:33 < GphreakX> tried, still "googling" 07:34 < ballistix> well, keep googling 07:46 < ballistix> courtc: could you PLEASE have a quick look over a game i'm writing? 07:46 < ballistix> im just having a bit of trouble with screen_info related stuff 07:46 < ballistix> http://users.tpg.com.au/182smith/kaboom.c 07:46 < GphreakX> well i am worse off than before 07:47 < ballistix> it doesn't compile because of either A.) the element initialiser isnt constant or B.) because there is a syntax error before screen_info 07:49 < ballistix> or help from anyone else which knows C better than me cause i am a fair bit of a noob 07:49 < courtc> umm.. are you getting warnings in pz.h about screen_info? 07:50 < courtc> Is there an error about a missing include? (nano-X.h) 07:53 < GphreakX> one more q for yall 07:53 < GphreakX> i have it now so that win sees that is is an ipod 07:53 < ballistix> no, sorry that i didn't explain 07:54 < GphreakX> and i get the three folders, calenders, contacts and notes (the updater recognized it) 07:54 < GphreakX> (and i updated it) 07:54 < GphreakX> but itunes does not 07:54 < GphreakX> ideas? 07:54 < GphreakX> hold on, i got an idea 07:54 < GphreakX> ignore me for a while 07:54 < courtc> ballistix: where does it say there is a syntax error? 07:55 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:55 < courtc> becase you have it commented out in that link. 07:55 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:55 < ballistix> courtc: basically, it either reports that there is a sytax error before screen_info, or that most of that static variables which are defined at the top's initializer variables are not constant 07:55 < courtc> hey vet ... hmm.. 07:55 < ballistix> and i have commented out stuff to see if it would make it work... 07:56 < ballistix> spot the syntax error: void GrFillRect( kaboom_wid, kaboom_gc, 100, 100, 20, 10); 07:57 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:57 < courtc> it's right, you can't have a global initialized to a non-constant (4 / 3 might work, but screen_info.cols / 4 won't) 07:58 < ballistix> oh ok 07:58 < Arctik> hey court 07:58 < ballistix> i dont really understand but i appreciate your help 07:58 < courtc> static char bucket_width screen_info.cols/16; <-- is a syntax error. 07:58 < ballistix> yeah, there should be an equals 07:58 < Arctik> ur up at this hour also? u bunch of crackheads ;) 07:58 < ballistix> but then it says not constant 07:59 < courtc> ballistix: well, it's not. 07:59 < ballistix> any solutions to make it constant? 07:59 < courtc> don't initialize them, just assign in new_kaboom_window 08:00 < courtc> if the variables don't change consider using #defines 08:00 < ballistix> yeah, i also tried that 08:00 < ballistix> but the variables do change 08:00 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 08:00 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 08:00 < ballistix> how can i just assign without initialising? 08:00 < ballistix> (lol sorry for my n00bness) 08:01 < courtc> then you'll want them to be reset each time the application starts, so set them in new_kaboom_window() 08:01 < ballistix> ok 08:01 < ballistix> thank you courtney 08:01 < ballistix> or courtny 08:01 < ballistix> lol woops 08:01 < spazzium> ... 08:01 < ballistix> lol if thats your name 08:01 < ballistix> lol 08:02 < courtc> np. (courtney) 08:04 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 08:04 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:05 < GphreakX> well, just want to thank yall for your help 08:05 < GphreakX> got it to work 08:05 < ballistix> good 08:05 < GphreakX> pain in the butt 08:05 < ballistix> did you find the HP tool? 08:05 < GphreakX> yeah 08:05 < GphreakX> i had to tweak it 08:05 < GphreakX> the forums leave out details 08:05 < ballistix> hardcore hax 08:06 < GphreakX> but all I basically did was format it fat32 08:06 < GphreakX> and used the updater 08:06 < GphreakX> seems simple now 08:06 < GphreakX> tons of people had my problem 08:06 < ballistix> um, isn't that what PitLappy said ages ago? 08:06 < GphreakX> some got it to work, so i think i might try it again 08:06 < GphreakX> now that i know how to fix it if it gets screwed up 08:06 < ballistix> courtc said that as well 08:06 < GphreakX> no 08:07 < GphreakX> they wanted me to mount it one 08:07 < GphreakX> and two they wanted to format it using disk management 08:07 < GphreakX> disk management will not let you do that 08:07 < GphreakX> only the hp util will 08:07 < GphreakX> we were trying to format it the whole time 08:07 < GphreakX> i knew that 08:08 < courtc> I didn't say anything about windows. 08:08 < GphreakX> no, but i didnt have dostools on my boot linux 08:08 < GphreakX> your commands didnt work either 08:09 < courtc> Yea, well, that sucks for you. 08:09 < GphreakX> not anymore 08:09 < BHSPitLappy> lol 08:09 < BHSPitLappy> everything looks skewed after a /ignore. 08:09 < GphreakX> even though pitlappy is a prick 08:09 < GphreakX> i still thank him for helping me 08:10 < GphreakX> pitlappy, why dont you like gentoo? 08:10 < GphreakX> huh, my ipod is now doing infinite bootup loops 08:10 < courtc> f'ing blaming me because you can't read. 08:11 < GphreakX> it is working again 08:11 < GphreakX> wierd 08:11 < BHSPitLappy> lol 08:12 < GphreakX> have you guys had a lot of digg.com readers comin in here with screwed up ipods? 08:12 < courtc> yes. 08:12 < spazzium> unfortunately. 08:12 < GphreakX> must get old 08:12 < courtc> mhmm 08:14 < GphreakX> hey after you get the hack to work on the nano, does it still sync with win itunes? 08:15 < ballistix> lol i've still got a lot of errors in my program 08:16 < GphreakX> anyways, ill see ya guys 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> "your" program? 08:17 < BHSPitLappy> "the"? 08:17 -!- GphreakX [n=gphreak@24-119-167-233.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 08:20 < ballistix> lol 08:21 < ballistix> no, im writing a small game, but im having problems 08:21 < ballistix> and i got courtc to help me a bit 08:24 < Lex> :d 08:24 < ballistix> courtc: what does "warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration" mean? btw i got it to compile... lol oh yeah... 08:25 < courtc> void main(argc, argv){} would be an example. It should be void main(int argc, char **argv){} 08:27 < ballistix> oh ok 08:27 < courtc> remove those 'void's from the GrFillRect() et al; You aren't declaring them, just calling them. 08:27 < ballistix> ah yeah: void GrFillElipse(kaboom_wid, kaboom_gc, bomb_location_x, bomb_location_y, bomb_radius, bomb_radius); 08:27 < ballistix> lol you're good 08:27 < ballistix> thats what it was saying 08:27 -!- RobertAU [n=robert@203-59-50-29.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:28 < ballistix> i just added void cause the nanox documentation told so in its example 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> what's this game? 08:28 < BHSPitLappy> like a tank wars game? 08:29 < courtc> the nanox docs show a prototype to show what it returns and the parameters it takes. 08:30 < ballistix> nah, its a remake of Kaboom! by activision 08:30 -!- RobertAU [n=robert@203-59-50-29.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 08:32 < ballistix> courtc: thanks so much... lol it compiles without ANY warnings, lol, good to see 08:32 < davidc__> now use -Wall 08:32 < BHSPitLappy> heh found it http://www.groovz.com/play/kaboom/fullscreen.php 08:32 < ballistix> yeah i posted that in the forums 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> SO. 08:33 < ballistix> lol suitable for ipod eh? 08:33 < davidc__> heh, who reads the forums 08:33 < ballistix> davidc__: ?? 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> not as far as i can see :p 08:33 < davidc__> signal:noise < -70db 08:33 < BHSPitLappy> davidc__: people who come in here with broken iPods. 08:33 < ballistix> what is -Wall? 08:33 < ballistix> lol GphreakX pissed you off heaps, eh pitlappy? 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> lol 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> stupid is annoying...irrational just puts me over the edge 08:34 < josh_> ballistix: -Wall = more warnings 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> i broke a chair. 08:34 < BHSPitLappy> over my brother's back 08:34 < ballistix> oh ok 08:35 < ballistix> thanks josh 08:35 < BHSPitLappy> just because of that guy. 08:36 < ballistix> HAHAHAHA 08:36 < ballistix> yeah he was pretty damn annoying 08:36 < davidc__> ballistix: show all warnings 08:36 < ballistix> yeah 08:38 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:40 < ballistix> can someone please tell me what is at line 490 in their pz.c? 08:41 < BHSPitLappy> umm 08:41 < josh_> my pz.c has 368 lines 08:41 < ballistix> lol 08:41 < BHSPitLappy> "#The Jews control the banks and the money." 08:41 < BHSPitLappy> that's weird... 08:41 -!- qdot [n=kwant@NETTEON.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:42 < josh_> my other pz.c has 575 lines and line 490 is return ret; 08:42 < josh_> my other other pz.c has 500 lines and line 490 is new_menu_window(); 08:42 < josh_> (from pz2, ttkz, and pz0, respectively) 08:43 < aegray> yea 08:45 < ballistix> yeah thanks 08:45 < ballistix> pz0 is the one that i needed 08:52 < ballistix> lol as excited as i am about pz2, on the inside i sort of wish that it didn't happen cause im just starting to get the knack of developing for pz0... 08:54 -!- famous [n=Elandolf@c-67-170-177-41.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:56 -!- Robert-H [n=robert@203-59-50-29.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:59 < Lex> should my ipod with ipl work with windows's itunes? :P 09:01 < josh_> ballistix: what do you mean? 09:01 < josh_> (by "getting the knack of") 09:03 < ballistix> lol i can actually start to do it ok 09:04 -!- philhans [n=Philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:04 < josh_> ballistix: had you ever done any graphics programming before pz0? 09:04 < ballistix> courtc: lol it runs, but i can't see the rectangle, so ill have ot do a bit of modification... oh and the text is WAY too high 09:05 < ballistix> what percentage of the screen is the header btw? 09:06 < josh_> it's 20 pixels 09:06 < josh_> just use HEADER_TOPLINE 09:06 < josh_> or (pz2) ttk_screen->wy 09:06 < ballistix> oh yeha 09:06 < ballistix> lol right 09:07 < Lex> wtf 09:07 < Lex> itunes deleted all my music 09:08 < ballistix> im sure it did 09:12 < ballistix> lol maybe its just not in the library 09:12 < Lex> my ipod doesn't show any music now 09:13 < Lex> "songs 0" 09:13 < Lex> itunes only said "updating ipod" 09:14 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-199-123.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 09:37 < robin_> ok, i'm ready to install Linux on the iPod, I'm a Linux user, so no probs with the Windows installer for me :).. what's the best way to do it ? 09:37 < robin_> i'm using iPod nano. 09:37 -!- TheDemon [i=alt@lucifer.demonspeedz.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:37 -!- TheDemon [i=alt@lucifer.demonspeedz.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 09:38 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 09:39 -!- erus|aweh [n=noneofyo@ACD655F3.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:00 < robin_> can I follow the instructions from here http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux ? for the iPod Nano ? 10:17 < robin_> hmm i guess since it isn't supported nobody wants to point me to the right direction :) 10:19 -!- lugan [n=irc@tor/session/x-118b9d57a335533b] has joined #ipodlinux 10:25 -!- SereR0KR is now known as SereR0KR`Xmas 10:26 < Robert-H> hey robin 10:27 < Arctik> hey 10:27 < Robert-H> is he still here i would have helped him 10:27 < Robert-H> oh well 10:27 < robin_> Robert-H: yes 10:27 < Robert-H> want some help 10:28 < robin_> Robert-H: yes, can I follow the instruction for the link i posted above? 10:28 < Robert-H> yes you can use that page 10:28 < robin_> Robert-H: also for the nano ? 10:28 < Robert-H> well i did it and it works (on my nano 10:28 < robin_> ok 10:28 < robin_> ok great, I will try it. 10:28 < robin_> thx 10:29 < Robert-H> it has the little snippits of info on where the installation is different for the nano 10:29 < Arctik> cool 10:29 < robin_> ok 10:29 < Robert-H> and the kernel lib directory part is not needed anymore 10:29 < Robert-H> with the latest nightlies 10:30 < robin_> ok 10:31 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A85CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 10:34 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:35 -!- BamaWOLF_ [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:35 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h249n12c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:37 < robin_> Robert-H: hm problem, I don't have a sde3 /dev entry 10:37 < robin_> Robert-H: so i can't use mke2fs -j /dev/sde3 10:39 < robin_> Robert-H: nvm now I have. 10:39 -!- linuxstb__ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:45 -!- davidc____ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:46 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:47 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:49 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:49 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h180n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:50 -!- linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb 10:54 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:55 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:55 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:57 -!- lugan [n=irc@tor/session/x-118b9d57a335533b] has quit [] 11:02 -!- eightballx [i=eightbal@host81-155-85-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:02 < eightballx> hey 11:04 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACC82AC5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 11:06 < erus> i predict a riot 11:08 < eightballx> why is that? 11:12 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:13 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:14 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:15 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:16 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 < erus> philhans, here to stay? 11:24 < erus> :P 11:24 < philhans> hehe 11:24 < philhans> working on setting up a new installation of linux 11:25 < erus> kk np :) 11:25 < robin_> hmm 11:25 < robin_> i messed up 11:25 < robin_> strange followed all the rules on the wiki 11:26 < robin_> it says http://www.apple.com/support/ipod on the display :) 11:26 -!- smacmac [n=severins@88.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:27 < erus> cool? 11:27 < robin_> np 11:27 < robin_> no 11:28 < Lecx> robin_ then.. restore the firmware 11:29 < robin_> dd if=ipod_boot_sector_backup of=/dev/sde ? 11:29 < robin_> doesn't fix it.. 11:30 < Lex> it's best to do in windows :o 11:30 < Lex> aegray 11:30 < robin_> Lecx: oh no, got it back 11:30 < robin_> :) 11:30 < robin_> lucky me 11:30 < Lex> :o 11:31 < robin_> ok try again :) 11:31 < Lecx> i restored it too in windows :p 11:31 < robin_> i don't like to reboot :), but hmm no I have to see what I was doing wrong 11:32 < erus> this song is so bangin' bru! 11:34 -!- SereR0KR`Xmas [n=NNSCRIPT@Fce18.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:38 -!- smacmac [n=severins@88.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 11:41 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcd6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 11:41 < robin_> hmm the kernel lib thing was not needed anymore with latest kernel right/ 11:41 -!- DaManWithDaPan [n=ballisti@60-240-21-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 11:42 -!- Weihnachtssere [n=NNSCRIPT@Fce18.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:44 -!- philhans [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:46 -!- Weihnachtssere is now known as SereR0KR 11:46 < Lex> hmm floydzilla has so many things that podzilla doesn't have :o 11:47 < robin_> Lex to test if it works, I can try only the linux kernel 11:47 < robin_> ? 11:48 < robin_> and if the kernel boots, install the filesystem afterwards 11:50 < Lex> wtf 11:51 < robin_> ? 11:51 -!- ballistix__ [n=ballisti@60-240-21-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 11:51 < robin_> of Lecx 11:51 < robin_> or 11:51 < Lex> yea 11:51 < Lex> aegray how i can get iboy photo to work 11:52 < ballistix__> lol building podzilla for desktop in windows is such a pain 11:57 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-5915.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 11:57 < robin_> if I don't install the userland part, I should at least get output ? 11:57 < Lex> wtf how to quit dopewars :D 11:59 < Arctik> heh 11:59 < Arctik> u dont quit 11:59 < Arctik> ur an addict 11:59 < Arctik> welcome 2 our world 12:03 < Lecx> omg my ipod is HOT 12:04 < robin_> can I use the normall iPod boot loader from here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079&package_id=101451&release_id=226112 ? 12:05 < robin_> since I did the installation a dozen times no, and still no result :) 12:05 -!- DaManWithDaPan [n=ballisti@60-240-21-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:08 < robin_> *now 12:17 -!- Septicaemia [i=bwsloan@CPE-60-225-112-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:20 < Robert-H> hello again 12:20 < Robert-H> robin u goin ok 12:27 < abi> wah, seems like the vfat on my ipod is fcked 12:28 < abi> ov 20 13:40:21 radiohead kernel: FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda2) 12:28 < abi> Nov 20 13:40:21 radiohead kernel: fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 245029) 12:28 < abi> wargh 12:34 < Lex> :P 12:38 < abi> yeah, mkfs.vfat .. :( 12:40 -!- Septicaemia [i=bwsloan@CPE-60-225-112-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:40 -!- Robert-H [n=robert@203-59-50-29.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:42 -!- ballistix__ [n=ballisti@60-240-21-151-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:45 -!- LMX2 is now known as lucaas 12:47 -!- Septicaemia [i=bwsloan@CPE-60-225-112-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889550.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 * Septicaemia is away (Sleep) - (11:53 pm) 12:53 -!- Septicaemia is now known as Bren[Away] 12:53 -!- smacmac [n=severins@ti221110a080-5915.bb.online.no] has quit [] 12:54 -!- Bren[Away] is now known as Septicaemia 12:58 -!- DR_FR [n=wbjvjbdz@201-24-207-253.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:58 -!- DR_FR [n=wbjvjbdz@201-24-207-253.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #ipodlinux ["[CyberScript]"] 13:08 < Lecx> http://80.186.121.48/phpsysinfo 13:20 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 -!- SereROKR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd500.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 13:29 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:36 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fce18.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:36 -!- RadioDog [n=Rob@dsl-210-211-126-015.nsw.veridas.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:37 < RadioDog> hello all 13:38 < Lex> hey 13:38 < RadioDog> g'day Lex 13:40 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 13:41 < tcmjr> Hi 13:41 < Lex> hey 13:41 < RadioDog> anyone taking questions? 13:42 < tcmjr> about ? biology ? 13:42 < RadioDog> podzillae 13:43 < tcmjr> Just ask, if someone knows they will awnser 13:43 < RadioDog> hw do I get floydzilla working on a 60gPhoto? 13:43 < RadioDog> (or any othe rpodzillae) 13:44 < tcmjr> For instruction on how to install floydzilla 13:44 < tcmjr> http://www.dansfloyd.com/ 13:44 < RadioDog> yeah did that 13:45 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:47 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:47 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:48 -!- linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb 13:49 -!- RadioDog [n=Rob@dsl-210-211-126-015.nsw.veridas.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:53 -!- BamaWOLF_ [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 13:56 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h237n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:57 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:07 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h249n12c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Success] 14:18 -!- LMX is now known as lucaas 14:21 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-3662.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 14:37 < RTG|Spitfire> how do i install games on ipod linux? 14:37 < Lex> podzilla 14:38 < RTG|Spitfire> yeh. lol. im kinda new to ipod linux n stuff. only jsut found out this morning randomly. but ive delt wit hteh real linuix before 14:38 < RTG|Spitfire> so how do i install games?? 14:39 < Lecx> podzilla has games on it :p 14:39 < RTG|Spitfire> i thought u put the files in your ipod root folder, and then find them in the hp folder in the ipod browser and run the files. then isnt it meant to go into extras n fgames? 14:39 < RTG|Spitfire> yeh but im trying to install more games 14:43 < erus> http://www.vandalsquad.com/graffiti.asp?graffiti_id=606699 check my hardcore artwork 14:48 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 14:54 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcd6.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:54 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889550.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:56 -!- RTG|Spitfire [n=Spitfire@user-3662.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:57 -!- Max_ [n=Max@c529ca094.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 15:03 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-021-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:17 -!- Ice_Wewe [n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-101-182.storm.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 < Ice_Wewe> hello 15:17 < Ice_Wewe> I just installed linux on my 3G iPod last night 15:18 < Ice_Wewe> I love it so far, the only problem is whenever I go to play an MP3 under Music, it crashes 15:18 < Ice_Wewe> Oh, sorry, OS X 1.4.3 15:18 < Ice_Wewe> 10.4.3* 15:18 < slowcoder> Try and remove your podcasts and it might work 15:19 < slowcoder> The iTunesDB integration is a bit shakey 15:19 < Ice_Wewe> ok 15:19 < Ice_Wewe> where would I do that? iTunes? 15:19 < Ice_Wewe> remove the MP3s from the podcasts? or the podcast subscriptions? 15:19 < slowcoder> First unsubscribe 15:20 < slowcoder> Then delete them as well 15:20 < slowcoder> Sync your ipod 15:20 < slowcoder> *done* 15:23 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: and that will solve my problem? 15:23 < slowcoder> Probably 15:24 < slowcoder> No guarantees, since the iTunesDB decoding is as shakey as it is 15:24 < slowcoder> We're replacing it for pz2 15:26 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: it worked, but why are there 2 of every playlist? 15:26 < slowcoder> See above about "shakey" 15:27 < Ice_Wewe> ahh right 15:27 < Ice_Wewe> it skips while I up and down the volume, but it plays fine when I'm not doing anything 15:27 < Ice_Wewe> does the remote work? 15:27 < slowcoder> It just might on a 3G 15:28 < Ice_Wewe> I don't really use mine anymore, one of the stereo cables broke, so I only hear mono 15:28 < Ice_Wewe> also it doesn't work 15:28 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: is there a script to sleep the iPod when I hold down play/pause? 15:29 < aegray> no "script" 15:29 < aegray> it would have to be coded into podzilla 15:30 < aegray> `wiki remote 15:30 < iplbot> Remote (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Remote) [1255 bytes] 15:32 < Ice_Wewe>
is there a script that will sleep the iPod when I hold down Play/Pause? 15:32 < aegray> no "script" 15:32 < aegray> it would have to be coded into podzilla 15:36 < slowcoder> aegray 15:36 < aegray> hey 15:37 < slowcoder> <- Pastafarian 15:39 < preglow> any of you guys know what state the arm is in when the apple bootloader calls the ondisk bootloader? 15:39 < preglow> supervisor mode? 15:39 < aegray> lol pastafarion 15:40 < aegray> and the other spelling 15:41 < slowcoder> preglowSVC, !FIQ, !IRQ 15:41 < aegray> can't you check that? 15:42 < aegray> pretty easily? 15:42 * aegray points to cpsr 15:42 < slowcoder> Yea. But it's even easier to ask someone on the off chance that someone is working at a new bootloader.. :) 15:42 < aegray> haha 15:43 < preglow> slowcoder: you make it sounds like the mode field is a bitfield 15:43 < slowcoder> preglow: You make is sound like you cant read c-notation 15:43 < aegray> haha 15:44 < slowcoder> :) 15:44 < preglow> perhaps i can't! 15:44 < preglow> but yeah, unless i'm completely confused, it doesn't make sense to specify it's not in fiq or irq mode when you've already said it'sin svc mode 15:44 < aegray> $250,000 challenge, payable to any individual who can produce empirical evidence proving that Jesus is not the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, though Jesus is not a part of, or worshipped in Flying Spaghetti Monsterism. 15:44 < aegray> hahahaha 15:45 < aegray> it tells you what it would return to 15:45 < slowcoder> preglow: When you're in IRQ or FIQ mode, the SVC is most likely set as well 15:46 < aegray> Global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct consequence of the decline in numbers of pirates since the 1800s 15:46 < aegray> i'm converting 15:46 < preglow> ahh, right, by !fiq and !irq, you meant the interrupt state bits? 15:47 < aegray> yep 15:47 < preglow> then i've got it 15:47 < preglow> interrupt disable/state, whatever 15:47 < slowcoder> Yea.. Good luck writing a bootloader when interrupts are "whatever" 15:47 < slowcoder> :) 15:47 < preglow> it can be done! 15:47 < aegray> haha 15:48 < robin_> Hi, can someone help me ? 15:48 < tcmjr> how is going the port of mpd to pz2 ? 15:48 < aegray> "but i set up that one bit to some status" 15:48 < slowcoder> preglow: Why are you messing around with that anyways ? 15:48 < slowcoder> robin_: Go ahead 15:48 < preglow> slowcoder: i'm writing the interrupt setup code for rockbox, so just wondering 15:49 < robin_> I have some problems getting Linux working on the iPod. I have followed the instructions here: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux already for 5 times.. but still get the message "http://www.apple.com/support/ipod" 15:49 < slowcoder> preglow: Ah 15:49 < robin_> so, something goes wrong with the booting 15:49 < aegray> -3 15:49 < slowcoder> robin_: Which iPod ? 15:49 -!- Ankit [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:50 < robin_> slowcoder: nano, I know it isn't supported. 15:50 < Ankit> i would like to thank all the people here who have helped me finally get ipod linux on my nano 15:50 < Ankit> and am sorry for the trouble i have caused many (slowcoder :D) 15:50 < robin_> do I first have to get rid of all my mp3's on the iPod ? 15:50 < Ankit> if any1 is curious, i used this http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3847 link to get iPL on my nano 15:51 -!- SereROKR is now known as SereR0KR 15:52 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h97n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:52 < robin_> I have created the partitions, with the values for the iPod nano. 15:52 < tcmjr> omg i'm full ... ate too much feijoada 15:53 -!- Ankit [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:53 < slowcoder> robin_: Look at the link Ankit just pasted. He was in your situation the other day 15:54 < robin_> i'm a Linux user 15:54 < robin_> the link is about windows 15:54 < aegray> robin_: did you use -3 for make_fw? 15:54 < tcmjr> robin_, I installed ipl on nano fine using the linux_installation guide 15:54 < robin_> aegray: nope 15:55 < aegray> there you go 15:55 < robin_> aegray: ok, the wiki doesn't mentioned it for the nano 15:55 < tcmjr> but it does for 4g ... 15:55 < robin_> yup 15:55 < slowcoder> Nano == 4G 15:55 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:56 < robin_> slowcoder: ah I see 15:56 < robin_> didn't knew that :) 15:56 < aegray> nano >= 4g 15:57 < tcmjr> I guess someone could edit the wiki to point the -3 command to nano also 15:57 < tcmjr> a lot of ppl messing up on that step 16:00 -!- skier1437 [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 -!- scottder [n=sdexter@ip68-9-129-5.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 < scottder> Hey all 16:03 -!- akaidiot [n=nope@c-f744e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:03 < scottder> anyone know how to reformat a nano for windows? 16:04 < robin_> hmm, what size does the new my_sw.bin should be for the nano ? the wiki says 4-5mb, mine is only 1.6M 16:05 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h237n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:06 < preglow> i assume ipl runs in user mode most of the time? 16:07 < robin_> ok, linux works, but the apple os not anymore 16:07 < erus> crazy 16:07 < robin_> it only shows the big apple 16:07 < robin_> and if I press >> it runs linux 16:08 < preglow> and does it even matter if you just run in supervisor mode the whole time? without an mmu you can do pretty much what you want anyhow, no? 16:09 < scottder> wow yeah i think I killed my nano 16:09 < scottder> says it has 143GB free 16:09 < preglow> then you killed your filesystem, not your nano 16:10 < scottder> how do I fix it? 16:10 < preglow> by booting in disk mode and reformating 16:10 < robin_> ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup <= is this also right for the nano ? 16:10 < robin_> because my apple os won't start. 16:12 < tcmjr> robin_, yeah 16:12 < scottder> is there any way to know if i am in disc mode? 16:12 < preglow> scottder: it says disk mode... 16:12 < tcmjr> 'disk mode 16:13 < tcmjr> disk mode is written on top 16:13 < tcmjr> preglow, you on win or lin ? 16:13 < preglow> lin 16:14 < scottder> I do menu-select, it restarts....but no disc mode 16:14 < preglow> scottder: you need to press play-select when it reboots 16:14 < preglow> bbl 16:14 < tcmjr> scottder, try to reformat it ... then use the apple fixer 16:14 -!- SereROKR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd23e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 < robin_> OH fuck 16:14 < robin_> i see 16:14 < robin_> stupid me 16:15 < robin_> damn READ 16:15 < robin_> i was extracting from the wrong partition :) 16:15 < tcmjr> lol 16:15 < robin_> but no error showed up 16:16 < scottder> Hrrrmmm 16:16 < scottder> ok disc mode on... 16:17 < scottder> command line format (in windows BTW) 16:17 < scottder> ? 16:17 < slowcoder> preglow: Supervisor mode lets you access some system registers that USR mode wont.. Like the cpsr 16:18 < tcmjr> Anyone knows if music is working on pz2 yet ? 16:19 < scottder> ? 16:21 < scottder> shit 16:21 < scottder> can't determin # of sectors 16:23 < scottder> any ideas? 16:23 < scottder> i did "format f: /FS:FAT32" 16:25 -!- Max_ [n=Max@c529ca094.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:27 < erus> i like webpages that dont open a new window when you click forums/message board :) 16:28 < slowcoder> scottder: Check out the forum.. Plenty of threads there about Nano/iPod recovery 16:30 -!- jedix [n=jedix@CPE0050da1eee90-CM000a73a144c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:31 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd500.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:31 < robin_> *sigh* now I got my apple os back, but it won't boot anymore to linux :) 16:32 -!- SereROKR is now known as SereR0KR 16:32 < slowcoder> robin_: make_fw again, and dd the image in place 16:33 < robin_> slowcoder: I did, many times. 16:33 < robin_> slowcoder: I even switched to linux as default 16:33 -!- jedix [n=jedix@CPE0050da1eee90-CM000a73a144c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 < slowcoder> I'm halfway out the door, but I can walk you through it when I get back 16:33 < robin_> thx 16:34 < slowcoder> 30 mins or so. 16:34 < robin_> k 16:34 < robin_> meanwhile I will try everthing again.. 16:35 < scottder> Ahhh the HP Utility did the job...phrew 16:35 < scottder> thanks all :) 16:41 < preglow> slowcoder: so, once you've changed to user mode, you can't ever switck back from it manually? 16:42 < aegray> with a trap or swi 16:44 < preglow> yeah, but you can't change mode explicitly via cpsr anymore 16:44 < aegray> true 16:45 < aegray> haha website just went down 16:45 < erus> meh sql db down? 16:45 < preglow> with style 16:48 < robin_> slowcoder: I got it working ! :) 16:48 < robin_> hmm podzilla is black and white? 16:49 < tcmjr> yah 16:50 < tcmjr> but you can change it on the settings 16:50 < tcmjr> just don't forget to save 16:51 < preglow> slowcoder: but yeah, ipl runs in user mode, i take it? 16:58 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 17:02 -!- blah-- [n=null@82-45-234-150.cable.ubr02.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 17:02 < blah--> yay 17:02 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:02 < b0lt> yay 17:02 < blah--> ipodlinux working on windows nano : ) 17:03 < blah--> I can't figure out how to get a good picture out of my sony cybershot, though 17:03 < blah--> the screen comes up blurry 17:03 < b0lt> use zoom 17:03 < b0lt> from a distance 17:04 < b0lt> works a lot better than holding the nano like 5 inches away 17:08 < blah--> cool. 17:08 < blah--> stupid flash. 17:09 -!- DrXenon [n=chatzill@Toronto-HSE-ppp3927691.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 17:10 < b0lt> hmmm 17:10 < b0lt> what other cool stuff can i get on my ipod? :D 17:10 -!- kevpatts [n=chatzill@cpc1-tall3-5-0-cust225.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:11 -!- kevpatts [n=chatzill@cpc1-tall3-5-0-cust225.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:12 < tcmjr> doom 17:12 -!- Vanquish1r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-121.s121.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 < b0lt> already have it 17:12 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:12 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 17:13 < tcmjr> games 17:13 < tcmjr> there is some games around the forums 17:13 < DrXenon> Is the Apple restore utility a bulletproof method of undoing a bad ipodLinux install? Does it use JTAG somehow? (The communication seems to be USB, so in that case there must be a software USB-to-JTAG bridge which could get corrupted, making a brick.) 17:13 < blah--> hah 17:13 < blah--> anyone have a sony digicam? 17:14 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:14 < blah--> you'll never get a brick. 17:14 < blah--> you can always format and restore 17:15 < b0lt> hmm 17:15 < b0lt> any suggestions for a good gb game to get? :) 17:16 < DrXenon> What is the actual low-level mechanism that the restore utility uses to reflash the OS? Is it hardware or software? 17:16 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["hiroshima'45 - chernobyl'86 - windows'95   [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 17:16 < b0lt> DrXenon: it's software 17:16 < linuxstb> The restore doesn't reflash the OS, it just writes to the disk. 17:17 < b0lt> essentially uses dd if=backup of=/dev/sda 17:17 < slowcoder> robin_: Excellent 17:18 < slowcoder> preglow: I actually dont know.. Either all of it is running in SVC mode, or maybe just the kernel is 17:18 < DrXenon> Thanks for the info. Just to reassure me, though - you're promising I can't possibly brick my nano? :-) 17:18 < preglow> DrXenon: i've done some pretty nasty stuff to it, and it still works 17:19 < slowcoder> DrXenon: We're not in the promise business, but if I havent managed to brick it, chances are you'll never get close to it.. 17:20 < DrXenon> Thanks, preglow. I guess if the developers didn't brick any ipods, I'm not likely to as a user. 17:20 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@tok69-5-82-235-148-129.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:22 < preglow> DrXenon: well, you can't get much worse than actually erasing the entire disk, and i did that 17:22 < preglow> not unless you actually manage to reflash it, and i don't even know if that's possible 17:24 < slowcoder> preglow: Mess up the flash-image in the firmware, set some bits, calculate a new checksum, and it's off to bricked iPod Land 17:24 < linuxstb> Hard to do accidentally though.. :) 17:24 < slowcoder> preglow: Not bloody likely that'll happend by chance though 17:24 < preglow> slowcoder: so it is flashable? 17:24 < slowcoder> preglow: Yea 17:25 < preglow> still, i think it'll cope with whatever i do to it 17:25 < slowcoder> (Though we have devs that can reflash.. Never had to use that service though) 17:25 < slowcoder> preglow: Oh yea.. Dont worry about it 17:27 < b0lt> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda 17:27 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:27 < slowcoder> b0lt: That wont mess it up 17:27 < preglow> b0lt: more or less did that, turned out just ok 17:27 < slowcoder> Or, well, it will, but it wont brick it 17:27 < b0lt> dd if=/dev/hammer of=/dev/nano 17:28 < b0lt> wait, it survived being run over twice 17:28 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 * slowcoder ponders if the apple stores/outlets are as proficcient in restoring iPods as we've become ? :) 17:31 -!- TrisoBoy [n=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:32 < FontPolice> internet genius bar. 17:37 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@208-58-242-111.s111.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:41 -!- k0rnz [n=k0rnz@c-24-21-23-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:54 -!- Vanquish1r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-121.s121.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:54 -!- Chahk [n=chatzill@ool-457235b5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:58 -!- Chahk is now known as Chahk_ 18:02 < robin_> is ipodLinux using a soft mp3 library or really the hardware unit ? 18:02 < slowcoder> There isn't a hardware unit 18:03 -!- Chahk_ is now known as Chahk| 18:03 < robin_> slowcoder: really ?, so the apple os is using a soft lib too 18:03 < slowcoder> Yep 18:03 < robin_> ok, thought a special dsp or something.. 18:03 -!- Chahk| is now known as Chahk_ 18:03 < slowcoder> Nope. Nothing magical 18:04 * b0lt looks for a codec that would work 18:04 -!- Chahk_ [n=chatzill@ool-457235b5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 18:04 < robin_> slowcoder: hmm but why does the cpu only supports mp3 and wmv from spec than ? it should support all codecs if it is just a soft lib right? 18:05 < b0lt> robin_: lazy coders 18:05 < FontPolice> drm had a had in that as well, i'm sure. 18:05 < slowcoder> robin_: Probably just which codecs they (PortalPlayer) supply with their SDK 18:06 < FontPolice> i didn't know it was all software, though. That's neat. 18:06 < robin_> ok, but why is ipod linux a little bit slower, with buffering etc.. 18:06 < slowcoder> We're only using the CPU, not the COP 18:06 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-0327.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 < Lex> does podzilla support wma? :o 18:06 < slowcoder> The iPod is dual-processor 18:06 < robin_> slowcoder: that is still work in progress :) ? 18:06 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-0327.bb.online.no] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:06 < slowcoder> But I have a feeling that'll be fixed with pz2 + mpd 18:07 < slowcoder> robin_: We have it pretty much figured out.. The video-player uses both CPUs for instance 18:07 < robin_> slowcoder: great, good work ! 18:09 < FontPolice> cool 18:09 < blah--> any cpanel users in here? 18:09 < b0lt> ew 18:10 < b0lt> EW 18:12 < b0lt> hm 18:12 < b0lt> does anyone have the podzilla cvs source handy? 18:15 < robin_> cool 18:16 < robin_> doom runs perfectly 18:16 < robin_> great 18:16 < robin_> :D 18:16 < b0lt> :) 18:17 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-152-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- Chahk_ [n=chatzill@ool-457235b5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 < robin_> lol, how do you exit doom ? 18:22 < robin_> or do you have to rest 18:22 < slowcoder> You should take a rest now and then.. :) 18:22 -!- Evera [n=lol@pool-71-106-232-138.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:22 < robin_> eh reset 18:22 < robin_> :D 18:22 < slowcoder> Isn't there an "exit" in the main menu ? 18:23 < blah--> doom's menu navigation is very annoying 18:23 < blah--> hold-unhold -> menu menu .... -> rotate right 18:23 < robin_> eh how do I get back to the menu 18:23 < robin_> ah 18:23 < robin_> ok 18:24 < robin_> hmm 18:24 < robin_> it just start again when I thouch the wheel :D 18:24 < slowcoder> Talk to Hyarion / Jobbe 18:24 < slowcoder> They're the iDoom devs 18:24 < robin_> I have figured it out. 18:25 < robin_> just use menu, until you are on exit.. and than select button. 18:25 < robin_> it is using sdl I assume ? 18:26 < robin_> so wolfenstein3d should be possible too \0/ 18:26 < slowcoder> Nope, it's accessing the LCD directly 18:26 < robin_> oh 18:26 < slowcoder> And, yes, Wolf3D should be very much possible 18:26 < slowcoder> Please feel free to port it.. I'd actually use that 18:26 < b0lt> doom 3 would be easy too 18:27 < b0lt> just draw a black screen 18:27 < slowcoder> b0lt: Yea, all we need to do is write some code that simulates a 3GHz P4.. Shouldn't be very difficult.. :) 18:27 < robin_> how powerfull is this cpu if you compare it with for example a xscale pxa250 ? 18:27 < b0lt> robin_: pitiful 18:28 < slowcoder> A lot less 18:28 < b0lt> slowcoder: nah, just draw a black rectangle 18:28 < robin_> hmm, oh well 18:29 < robin_> I know I couldn't get doom working this smoothfull on Linux on a pxa250 18:29 < robin_> at 640x480 that is. 18:29 < robin_> but that was using SDL. 18:30 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:33 -!- tcmjr [n=tadeu@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 18:33 < tcmjr> Argh, just installed ubuntu 18:33 < tcmjr> now grub won't boot into windows :( 18:33 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 18:34 < slowcoder> tcmjr: Fix up your menu.lst file then 18:34 < joecool> tcmjr: ubuntu is crappy like that.. put this in /boot/grub/grub.conf 18:34 < joecool> (hold on) 18:34 < slowcoder> joecool: DO NOT paste in this channel 18:34 < joecool> slowcoder: its THREE FRIGGIN LINES 18:34 < slowcoder> #ipodlinux.flood is for that 18:34 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h65n13c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:34 < slowcoder> ok.. Three lines is okay 18:34 < joecool> title=Windows XP Pro 18:34 < joecool> rootnoverify (hd0,0) 18:34 < joecool> chainloader (hd0,0)+1 18:35 < joecool> of course.. thats assuming you have doze on your primary drive 18:35 < slowcoder> (And on your first partition) 18:35 < tcmjr> joecool, I do. 18:36 < tcmjr> will put that on grub.conf 18:36 < tcmjr> hold on 18:36 < joecool> tcmjr: k, then just make sure thats in grub.conf.. and you should be good to go unless ubuntu did something dumb like overwrite the doze partition 18:36 < joecool> :) 18:36 < tcmjr> Let's hope not :o 18:37 < b0lt> joecool: it's chainloader +1, iirc 18:37 < tcmjr> grub.conf is empty .. should it be like that ? 18:37 < b0lt> tcmjr: /boot/grub/menu.lst 18:37 < b0lt> it's menu.lst, not grub.conf 18:38 < joecool> b0lt: I suppose a crappy distro would put it there :P 18:38 < b0lt> what 18:38 < b0lt> KILL 18:38 -!- INpac [i=user@p54AD2B44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:38 < joecool> and i do have +1 on there.. but i specify it 18:38 * b0lt strangles joecool 18:38 < INpac> hey guys :) 18:38 < b0lt> SLACKWARE OWNS YOU 18:38 < INpac> any german guy here? 18:38 < joecool> b0lt: slack is a good distro.. i was bashing ubuntu 18:38 < b0lt> oh 18:38 * b0lt unstrangles joe 18:39 < INpac> i've got some questions about idoom, any coder here? 18:39 < slowcoder> INpac: They might. State your question 18:40 < tcmjr> is ubuntu that bad ? :( 18:40 < tcmjr> I used to use gentoo but got tired of all that compiling. 18:40 < INpac> well i'm a coder too, but I can only code in basic and 3d... i'd like to get some information about coding games like idoom for ipodlinux :) 18:40 < b0lt> it was ported 18:40 < b0lt> not coded 18:40 < slowcoder> How do you "code in 3d" ? 18:40 < b0lt> slowcoder: mechanical computers 18:41 < INpac> blitz3d :) 18:41 < INpac> some directx8 games 18:41 < slowcoder> K 18:41 < INpac> well ok but how to make a pc game work on a ipod? 18:41 < b0lt> um 18:41 < slowcoder> Step one: Pick up "The black book of graphics programming" 18:41 < INpac> ok did it ;) 18:41 < slowcoder> Step two: Read it 18:42 < slowcoder> Well, then just fire up your editor 18:42 < joecool> tcmjr: you should try arch.. i really hate seeing gentoo users going off to distros like fc or ubuntu 18:42 < joecool> *shudders* 18:42 < joecool> or slack 18:42 < joecool> or hell, even debian 18:42 < INpac> dont have enough knowledge of linux on ipod.. whhich language are they using for the graphical interface? 18:42 < INpac> is it actually the same as the device for the idoom graphics? 18:43 < slowcoder> INpac: C 18:43 < INpac> allright 18:43 < slowcoder> Use the routines from microwindows to draw to the LCD 18:43 < slowcoder> I.e, just the routines, not microwindows 18:43 < INpac> microwindows? :) 18:43 < INpac> is that a nick or a library ? :D 18:43 < tcmjr> joecool, what do you use ? 18:44 < slowcoder> Yea, the graphics-engine for the menus and some apps in iPL 18:44 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd23e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:44 < joecool> tcmjr: gentoo currently.. but i like the newest stuff so it makes sense 18:44 < INpac> could you gimme the link or something? 18:44 < tcmjr> indeed 18:44 < INpac> or i gonna search for it 18:44 < slowcoder> INpac: Its in the iPL CVS repo 18:44 < INpac> and another question: there are lots of versions of linux for the ipod ... could you tell me which one is the "nicest".. i mean the one with the best interface? 18:44 < joecool> but i can see people leavin gentoo.. its not a fit for everyone (compiling everything on slow boxen is hell) 18:45 < INpac> hum, sorry, dont know you're talking about 18:45 < slowcoder> INpac: One sec 18:45 < INpac> ok 18:45 < slowcoder> INpac: Color or B&W ? 18:45 < INpac> ipod 20gb photo := 18:45 < INpac> :) 18:46 < slowcoder> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinux/tools/microwindows/src/drivers/fblin16ipod.c?rev=1.2&view=auto 18:46 < INpac> wush kewl 18:46 < INpac> thx 18:46 < INpac> the other quest: there are lots of versions of linux for the ipod ... could you tell me which one is the "nicest".. i mean the one with the best interface? 18:46 < slowcoder> np 18:46 < slowcoder> INpac: Couldnt tell you.. I dont use any of them 18:47 < INpac> allright, anyone else perhaps? 18:47 < tcmjr> lots of version of linux for the ipod ? where ? 18:47 < INpac> hum or dont know 18:47 < joecool> i've never seen another linux project for the ipod.. except for rockbox which is eyein it up 18:47 < INpac> but on the wiki page there are pretty much distributions or not? 18:48 < INpac> perhaps i misunderstood something := 18:48 < slowcoder> There are several podzilla clones.. But there is only one iPod linux 18:48 < slowcoder> *zilla = the GUI application 18:48 < INpac> k 18:48 < skier1437> is the new ipodlinux out yet? 18:48 < INpac> but then those clones look direfferent or what is the difference ? 18:48 < joecool> lolol.. i think he thought there was distros for it 18:48 < skier1437> dubbed "hotdog" 18:49 < joecool> like debian on the ipod rofl 18:49 < INpac> hehe sry 18:49 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h97n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:49 < joecool> no problem, it happens 18:49 < INpac> would be great if there were some screenshots of all those clones 18:50 < robin_> I know it's not possible yet, but would the CPU be powerfull enough to play xvid movies@nano resulution ? 18:50 < robin_> i guess not. 18:50 < slowcoder> skier1437: Hotdog is a graphics library, not a new version of iPL 18:50 < b0lt> robin_: no 18:50 < INpac> i was impressed when i saw the idoom running clear and fast on my ipod!! 18:50 < skier1437> then what is coming out? 18:50 < slowcoder> robin_: Nope, nowhere near enough powerfull 18:50 < robin_> INpac: me2 18:51 < INpac> humm and you guys said there would be a new version soon? 18:51 < robin_> hmm what codecs are apple itunes using than for the new ipod video ? 18:51 < b0lt> quicktime 18:51 < b0lt> there's an onboard chip for it 18:52 < slowcoder> H.264, but there's an extra CPU in the 5G 18:52 < robin_> ah, ok. 18:52 < b0lt> er, what slowcoder said 18:52 < robin_> it is possible to OC the CPU :D 18:52 < robin_> ? 18:53 < INpac> is it possibly perhaps that the new podzilla will be able to play smaller coded videos? 18:53 < erus> it is :) 18:53 < INpac> at the moment a minute means 200mb! 18:53 < slowcoder> INpac: yes, we're researching which compressed format will work on the pods 18:53 < skier1437> ipl will play encoded videos? 18:53 < INpac> wuah great 18:53 < skier1437> sweet 18:53 < slowcoder> skier1437: No 18:53 < robin_> erus: tell 18:53 < erus> look on the forums 18:53 < INpac> do you know a release date? 18:54 < b0lt> slowcoder: i'm working on one right now 18:54 < erus> someone posted an example of how todo it 18:54 < erus> watch it though, coz u could fry your pod :) 18:54 < blah--> http://gdap.be/nanodoom/ 18:54 < b0lt> using h261 probably 18:54 < robin_> erus: ok thx. not that I would try it anyway, but just curious :) 18:54 < INpac> how far are the developments? :) 19:00 < robin_> hmm btw, I don't see a penguin splash screen, that's ok ? 19:00 < INpac> me too 19:00 -!- Chahk_ [n=chatzill@ool-457235b5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 19:00 < INpac> only the command lines going down :) 19:00 < INpac> *up 19:00 -!- Bi-noix [n=Bi-noix@tok69-5-82-235-148-129.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["au revoir"] 19:01 < robin_> yes, well probably the slashscreen is not implemented in the nightly builds. 19:01 < slowcoder> it just not implemented for the newer ipods 19:01 < robin_> ok 19:05 -!- blah-- [n=null@82-45-234-150.cable.ubr02.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 19:06 < k0rnz> anyone got podzilla 2 working on their Nano yet? 19:06 < twistx_> whats the point? 19:06 < robin_> what is the difference with the normal podzilla? 19:06 < INpac> where can i get podzilla 2? 19:07 < robin_> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 19:07 < INpac> i cpuld try it on my ipod photo 19:07 < INpac> thx 19:07 < twistx_> podzilla2 cant even play music yet 19:07 < INpac> wua 19:07 < INpac> what can it what podzilla 1 doesn't can? 19:07 < slowcoder> Nothing right now 19:07 < Lecx> http://lex.dy.fi/kuvat/ipod/grey.jpg why 19:07 < robin_> slowcoder: if you got the second cpu working, than it would be possible to play songs, and go back to the menu ? 19:08 < slowcoder> robin_: You can do that alerady with mpd 19:08 < INpac> ask apple to help you :)) 19:08 < robin_> slowcoder: oh, have to check that out. 19:11 < b0lt> slowcoder: who is working on the video player? 19:11 < slowcoder> aegray 19:12 < Lecx> aegray should work with iboy too ;D 19:12 < b0lt> slowcoder: i'm going to try to implement h.261 into the video player 19:12 < slowcoder> b0lt: Try and get it running freestanding first 19:12 < INpac> wua great ! 19:13 < b0lt> slowcoder: what do you mean? 19:13 < INpac> which site is the secret site where i can allways get the latest news ? :) 19:13 < slowcoder> b0lt: To see if it's plausile 19:13 < robin_> INpac: news.google.com 19:13 < k0rnz> lol 19:13 < INpac> hahah 19:13 < b0lt> ah 19:13 < slowcoder> INpac: That would be this channel 19:13 < robin_> :) 19:13 < INpac> ah ok 19:14 < slowcoder> b0lt: It's not worth the hassle of integrating it into the videoplayer if it turns out to be too slow 19:14 < b0lt> right 19:14 < twistx_> lecx whats this a picture of? 19:14 < Lecx> twistx_ it's a picture in ipod :) 19:15 < Lecx> podzilla, there is those gray dots 19:15 < Lecx> and why 19:15 < INpac> hmm would you say that the ipod nano and the ipod 20gig has the same hardware speed? 19:15 < twistx_> picture of what, just looks like a blurry mess 19:15 < preglow> does anyone know why the ipodloader button detection is so flakey? 19:15 < slowcoder> INpac: Yes 19:15 < Lecx> twistx_ yes it's zoomed, but why there is so grey dots 19:15 < slowcoder> preglow: Yes 19:15 < twistx_> no idea 19:15 < preglow> slowcoder: care to explain? 19:15 < INpac> lol 19:16 -!- tcmjr [n=tadeu@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:16 -!- _ipxnc [i=sublime@kempinsky.students.intec.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16 < slowcoder> preglow: It's oversensitive.. You need to "debounce" and reduce sensitivity 19:16 < Lecx> the pictures are so ugly 19:16 < preglow> doesn't exactly seem sensitive to me 19:16 < preglow> i can hammer a button for seconds, and it still doesn't register 19:17 < twistx_> maybe thats why your button doesnt work, use your finger not a hammer 19:17 < INpac> haha 19:17 < slowcoder> preglow: It's polling as well, so to get accurate on that level, you'll need to enable some GPIO and i2c stuff to get the interrupts flowing 19:17 < preglow> slowcoder: yeah, know 19:17 < preglow> slowcoder: but i don't want to set up interrupts in the bootloader ;) 19:18 -!- INpac [i=user@p54AD2B44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 19:18 < slowcoder> preglow: Tough 19:19 < twistx_> mine comes right up 19:20 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 19:20 < twistx_> what sucks is trying to quit idoom 19:20 < preglow> haha 19:20 < twistx_> controlling that menu is flacky as shit 19:20 < twistx_> flakey 19:21 < robin_> slowcoder: eh, mpd doesn't work on Nano ? 19:21 < robin_> slowcoder: my nano turns into a stroboscope 19:21 < slowcoder> robin_: I think it should.. Where do you get this from ? 19:21 < robin_> http://ipodlinux.org/Mpd 19:21 < b0lt> slowcoder: how would i draw pixels? :) 19:22 < slowcoder> b0lt: Using a magic-marker? (please be more specific) 19:22 < b0lt> slowcoder: how do i set the color of a pixel on my ipod nano? 19:22 < b0lt> in c++ 19:22 < slowcoder> robin_: I'm not the expert on mpd.. See if someone else knows about 19:23 < slowcoder> b0lt: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinux/tools/microwindows/src/drivers/fblin16ipod.c?rev=1.2&view=auto 19:28 < b0lt> eh 19:28 < b0lt> 261 is pretty hard to port :| 19:28 < b0lt> at least, this implementation is 19:29 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:31 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: another problem, my iPod linux says my battery is always full, and the iPod wont charge when booted linux 19:33 < slowcoder> Ice_Wewe: When you're charging, there's no way to tell how full the battery is on the ipod 19:33 < slowcoder> So it'll always show full 19:33 < slowcoder> There should be a little "lightning" icon over the battery-bar showing that it's charging 19:33 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: it shows full when its not plugged in 19:33 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: there isn't 19:33 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: it was playing, and then I got a low battery warning, and Linux still said it was full (not plugged in) 19:33 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: set it on voltage 19:34 < slowcoder> Ice_Wewe: Which iPod ? 19:34 < b0lt> go to settings>appearance>display battery digits or something 19:34 < b0lt> enable that 19:34 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: 3G 19:34 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: ok 19:34 < slowcoder> Ice_Wewe: I'll have someone with a 3G to check it out 19:35 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: I don't have a appearance setting menu 19:37 < Ice_Wewe> podzilla 2005-06-03CVS 19:37 < joecool> OLD 19:37 < Ice_Wewe> joecool that was the newest version on their website 19:37 * Ice_Wewe goes to check again 19:38 < joecool> Ice_Wewe: which website 19:38 < joecool> ? 19:38 < Ice_Wewe> joecool: the one that said it had 'nightly' CVS builds 19:38 < joecool> slowcoder: new ipodloader? is it usable yet? 19:39 < joecool> well that sure as hell ain't nightly 19:39 < Ice_Wewe> will someone give me the link to the podzilla website (I lost it) 19:39 < slowcoder> www.ipodlinux.org ? 19:39 < joecool> http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/ipodlinux/podzilla << theres your latest 19:39 < joecool> (pz0 that is) 19:40 < Ice_Wewe> pz0? 19:40 < joecool> yeah.. the legacy podzilla 19:40 < Ice_Wewe> ok 19:40 < slowcoder> pz0 = pz1 == Normal podzilla 19:40 < slowcoder> pz2 == New (not very functioning) podzilla 19:41 < joecool> slowcoder: so, the new ipodloader in svn, is it functioning yet, and what is the difference between the CVS ipodloader and this one? 19:41 < slowcoder> joecool: It's not functioning right now 19:41 < slowcoder> It's pretty much a standalone kernel 19:41 < slowcoder> I just needed somewhere to keep the code, hence SVN 19:42 < slowcoder> The differences? _a lot_ 19:42 < joecool> oh really? so faster boot and no need for make_fw? 19:42 < slowcoder> It's more or less a complete rewrite 19:43 < slowcoder> No need for make_fw. Menu for choosing what you're going to boot.. Supports booting from FAT32/ext2+3/HFS+ 19:43 < joecool> hmm, will be interesting.. keep me posted if it becomes usable 19:43 < slowcoder> Will do 19:44 < linuxstb> slowcoder: How are you planning to boot without using make_fw? 19:44 < Ice_Wewe> joecool: podzilla is kept in /mnt/iPod/bin/ right? cause when I replace what I've got there, it shows up as the same version 19:45 < slowcoder> linuxstb: Magic.. Black magic, to be specific 19:45 < slowcoder> linuxstb: Nah.. You'll need to run make_fw once.. But not to upgrade kernel and/or userland 19:46 < linuxstb> OK :) 19:46 < linuxstb> So it is going to be a linux kernel running as the bootloader (to give you access to disk and filesystem drivers) ? 19:47 < slowcoder> Nope. 19:47 < slowcoder> I've written it all from cratch 19:47 < slowcoder> scratch, even 19:47 < Ice_Wewe> WHAT?! 19:48 < b0lt> i coded linux 19:48 < b0lt> ;) 19:48 < slowcoder> Ice_Wewe: huh ? 19:48 < Ice_Wewe> joecool: I just replaced the podzilla on my iPod, with the one you gave me (/mnt/iPod/bin/podzilla) and it shows up as the same version! 19:48 < Ice_Wewe> slowcoder: read my thing to joecool 19:49 -!- maxx_730 [n=max@c529ca094.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:49 < b0lt> joecool: it was nightly from like 5 months ago 19:49 < k0rnz> is the floydzilla windows installer safe for Nano? 19:50 < b0lt> theoretically 19:50 < b0lt> it's your fault if you brick your nano, basically 19:50 < joecool> Ice_Wewe: weird.. i just build mine a few days ago (last time they made a change to it) 19:50 < twistx_> why use an installer? 19:50 < k0rnz> b0lt: i don't care I know how to reinstall using linux method 19:50 < twistx_> all the fun is getting it working yourself 19:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o slowcoder ] by ChanServ 19:50 < k0rnz> i just wanted to try out floydzilla thats all 19:50 < Ice_Wewe> hehhe 19:51 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:51 < twistx_> hrm 19:51 < joecool> i drop my crap in /sbin, i think that its linked to /bin 19:51 < joecool> (for the ipod) 19:52 < b0lt> symlink, yeah 19:52 < Ice_Wewe> oh 19:52 < Ice_Wewe> so I can't put it in bin? 19:53 < twistx_> it goes to the same place either way 19:53 < joecool> unless... 19:53 < joecool> he didn't link his 19:53 < twistx_> it should be linked when you extract the userland 19:54 < joecool> it *should* be 19:54 < twistx_> unless for some reason he felt like deleting it :) 19:54 < joecool> but what if it isn't? 19:54 < twistx_> then he should find a new userland tarball 19:54 < k0rnz> how do I quit out of iDoom on my Nano? 19:54 < twistx_> switch your hold button on then off 19:54 < twistx_> it brings up the menu 19:55 < k0rnz> thanks 19:55 < twistx_> but good luck trying to quit. its a pain in the ass 19:55 < Ice_Wewe> joecool: my sbin podzilla was not linked, it was a program.... 19:55 < k0rnz> iDoom is addictive 19:55 < maxx_730> not on mini 19:56 < joecool> Ice_Wewe: nono.. i meant the bin directory should be linked to sbin 19:56 < maxx_730> it looks horrible on a mini 19:56 < joecool> Ice_Wewe: do ls -l /mnt/ipod/bin 19:56 < maxx_730> or /media/ipod/bin in some cases, depending on your mount point 19:57 < maxx_730> do a df -h first to find out where its mounted 19:57 < b0lt> what is with this /media/ipod crap? 19:57 < slowcoder> maxx_730: Tried a recent version? They put in nice dithering now 19:57 < maxx_730> yeah i tried the most recent binarie 19:58 < maxx_730> or do you mean a cvs version 19:58 < b0lt> -no 19:58 < b0lt> just 1.1 19:58 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 < Ice_Wewe> joecool: well a lot is linked to busybox, and podzilla is linked to itself 19:59 < joecool> the.. directory... itself 19:59 * joecool gives up 20:00 < b0lt> what 20:00 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: type ls -l /mnt/ipod/bin 20:00 < twistx_> no 20:00 < twistx_> ls -l /mnt/ipod 20:00 < twistx_> you should see /bin -> /sbin 20:00 < b0lt> um 20:00 < b0lt> both work? 20:00 < b0lt> root@alpha:~# ls -l /mnt/ipodlinux/bin 20:00 < b0lt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2005-11-19 20:47 /mnt/ipodlinux/bin -> sbin/ 20:00 < Ice_Wewe> oh yea 20:00 < Ice_Wewe> well, I'm the owner, but yea 20:00 < twistx_> no you're teling him to ls in bin 20:00 < b0lt> if you put a slash at the end, it will look inside the directory 20:01 < b0lt> twistx_: learn how to use ls 20:01 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: yes, I see that 20:01 < b0lt> ls dir/ lists inside the directory 20:01 < b0lt> ls dir lists the directory 20:01 < twistx_> no shit brainiac 20:01 < b0lt> 15:00 < twistx_> no you're teling him to ls in bin 20:01 < b0lt> 15:00 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: type ls -l /mnt/ipod/bin 20:02 -!- tcmjr [n=tadeu@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 < Ice_Wewe> what? I did it 20:02 < tcmjr> Where can I see pz0 cvs commits ? 20:02 < twistx_> those produce the same results, with or without the slash 20:02 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: yeah, it should be fine 20:02 < b0lt> twistx_: then why did you say 20:02 < b0lt> 15:00 < twistx_> no you're teling him to ls in bin 20:02 < b0lt> you were wrong 20:02 < twistx_> you're trying to check the bin to sbin symlink right? 20:02 < b0lt> stfu. 20:02 < b0lt> yes 20:02 < Ice_Wewe> hehe 20:02 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: you're right 20:03 < twistx_> so checking inside the directory wouldnt be the right place to look 20:03 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: go slow dance with your iPod, he is right 20:03 < b0lt> and where did i check inside the directory? 20:03 < b0lt> do you see a slash at the end of that? 20:03 < twistx_> nevermind 20:03 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: so, wait 20:03 < b0lt> podzilla is linked to itself? 20:05 < b0lt> rm /mnt/ipod/bin/podzilla 20:05 < b0lt> copy the new one into /mnt/ipod/bin 20:05 < Ice_Wewe> I did 20:05 < b0lt> and check your /mnt/ipod/etc/rc 20:05 < Ice_Wewe> and that should work? 20:05 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: it should say what? 20:05 < b0lt> make sure it has podzilla on the last line 20:06 < Ice_Wewe> It does 20:06 < b0lt> ok 20:06 < b0lt> it should work then 20:07 < tcmjr> So no mpd support for pz2 yet ? :( 20:07 < Ice_Wewe> ARGGGG! 20:07 < Ice_Wewe> it still says its 20050603CVS 20:07 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: lol 20:07 < Ice_Wewe> is there something else I have to do?! 20:07 < Ice_Wewe> sonofa 20:08 < b0lt> wait 20:08 < b0lt> check the settings menu first 20:08 < Ice_Wewe> I did 20:08 < b0lt> see if it actually is the nightly 20:08 < Ice_Wewe> it is 20:08 < b0lt> does it have the features? 20:08 < Ice_Wewe> for 20050603 20:08 < Ice_Wewe> like Battery stuff? no 20:08 < b0lt> does it have an appearance? 20:08 -!- cdegroot [n=cg@ip54575e0e.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:08 < b0lt> settings>appearnce 20:08 < Ice_Wewe> no 20:09 < b0lt> eh 20:09 < Ice_Wewe> weird 20:09 < Ice_Wewe> stupid thing doesn't want to upgrade! 20:09 < b0lt> ok 20:09 < b0lt> put it into disk mode again 20:09 < b0lt> get the nightly 20:09 < b0lt> hang o 20:09 < b0lt> on 20:09 < b0lt> are you copying in the file? 20:09 < b0lt> like 20051109-podzilla.gz or something? 20:10 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 < Ice_Wewe> I'm copying what joecool told me to get 20:11 < Ice_Wewe> podzilla, its about a MB 20:11 < b0lt> ok, 1 sec 20:11 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: it wasn't in disk mode 20:11 < Ice_Wewe> is that a problem? 20:11 < Ice_Wewe> does that mean that I can't write to /dev/disk1s2 if it's not in disk mode? 20:12 < Ice_Wewe> ohh 20:12 < b0lt> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-11-20-podzilla.z 20:12 < Ice_Wewe> maybe 20:12 < b0lt> no, it isn't a prboelm 20:12 < b0lt> problem 20:12 < b0lt> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-11-20-podzilla.z 20:12 < b0lt> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-11-20-podzilla.gz 20:12 < b0lt> get that 20:13 < Ice_Wewe> uncompress it and move it to /mnt/iPod/bin? 20:13 < b0lt> gunzip 2005-11-20-podzilla.gz 20:13 < b0lt> mv 2005-11-20-podzilla /mnt/ipod/bin 20:13 < Ice_Wewe> does my iPod need to be in disk mode for me to write to /dev/disk1s2? 20:13 < b0lt> no 20:13 < Ice_Wewe> ok 20:13 < Ice_Wewe> leave the name the way it is? 20:13 < b0lt> no 20:13 < b0lt> mv 2005-11-20-podzilla /mnt/ipod/bin/podzilla 20:13 < Ice_Wewe> oh, ok 20:14 -!- k0rnz [n=k0rnz@c-24-21-23-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:14 -!- madcat [n=madcat__@maison.mymadcat.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:14 < Ice_Wewe> b0lt: will anything else need changing after I've done that? 20:14 < b0lt> uh 20:15 < b0lt> run chmod +x /mnt/ipod/bin/podzilla 20:15 < b0lt> just in case it's not executable 20:15 < Ice_Wewe> that it? 20:15 < b0lt> yeah 20:15 < Ice_Wewe> ok 20:16 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:16 < madcat> Hi there. I've just installed last Ipl on my g4 iPod. I know they're unsupported (as says the title), but I think testers are useful to pinpoint bugs anyway. Linux runs fine on the iPod, however I can't boot on the original firmware (blocked on the "happy mac" icon... 20:17 < Ice_Wewe> YEARGGGGGGGGG! It STILL is 20050603CVS! 20:17 < b0lt> Ice_Wewe: lol 20:17 < madcat> (I'm using OS X) 20:17 < aegray> then update it 20:17 < twistx_> retard 20:17 * Ice_Wewe hurls his iPod out the window 20:17 * aegray punches Ice_Wewe in the face 20:18 < Ice_Wewe> aegray: what do you think I've been tryingto do? look stupid? 20:18 < slowcoder> madcat: Seems like your installer screwed up.. 20:18 < aegray> yes 20:18 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: oh yea, you think it's so easy, get over here and do it for me! 20:18 < twistx_> already did it on mine 20:18 < tcmjr> lol 20:18 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: yea well stfu. 20:19 < twistx_> heres a tip: start over 20:19 < twistx_> and fucking read 20:19 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: heres a tip: shut up 20:19 < twistx_> all this shit b0lt is telling you is in the damn install doc 20:19 < b0lt> twistx_: yeah, and it obviously didn't work 20:19 < b0lt> so SHUT THE FUCK UP 20:19 -!- Sound-Mind [n=Spencer@pcp0010596547pcs.catonv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:20 < twistx_> haha 20:20 < Ice_Wewe> twistx: go suck an iPod 20:20 < twistx_> ok Ice_Wewe 20:21 * Ice_Wewe hurls his iPod out the window 20:22 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-220-191.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 < madcat> anyone not fightin' here ? ;) 20:22 < twistx_> hurl yourself out that window 20:22 < Ice_Wewe> nope 20:22 < twistx_> and take b0lt with you :) 20:23 * Ice_Wewe hurls twistx mom out the window 20:23 < b0lt> WOOT 20:23 < twistx_> nice. what are you like 12? 20:23 < b0lt> semi-working compressed video! 20:24 < BHSPitLappy> seriously? 20:24 < BHSPitLappy> i was just about to ask 20:26 < b0lt> eh 20:26 < b0lt> it works for about 3 frames 20:26 < b0lt> and then crashes 20:26 < BHSPitLappy> sweeet 20:26 < BHSPitLappy> lol 20:27 < BHSPitLappy> keep fine-tuning on that 20:27 < BHSPitLappy> b0lt's going to be our hero someday! 20:27 < b0lt> compressed pr0^H^H^Hvideos! 20:28 < BHSPitLappy> :( 20:28 < BHSPitLappy> b0lt, does a video at lower res last longer? 20:28 < BHSPitLappy> like 5 frames maybe? :p 20:28 < b0lt> i'm not sure 20:28 < b0lt> i don't even know why it crashed 20:28 < BHSPitLappy> what's the framerate you're at? 20:28 < b0lt> it lasted for 28 frames at 15 fps 20:29 < BHSPitLappy> ah 20:29 < BHSPitLappy> some way to get console output? 20:29 < BHSPitLappy> :S 20:29 < madcat> nobody knows how to make a woking loader for 4g ? I wisk I could develop some stuff for the ipod 20:30 < slowcoder> madcat: I use kanjinows 4G installer for OSX when I got started.. Worked fine for my 4G B&W pod 20:31 < madcat> slowcoder : I used it at first, but still can't get the dual boot working. Linux runs fine (although I didn't find out how to make it sleep, neither shutdown it) 20:31 < slowcoder> madcat: Wierd.. Is it a B&W ? 20:31 -!- iNT0XiC8D [i=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:32 < madcat> slowcoder, same as yours 20:32 < slowcoder> Wierd.. Worked jus out-of-the-box for me 20:32 < madcat> slowcoder, actually, I then grabed make_fw and loader.bin from the installer, and tried with a new kernel 20:32 < skier1437> wait, who got compresssed video working?? on the ipod video u mean? 20:33 < madcat> slowcoder, I gonna try once more :) 20:33 < Ice_Wewe> skier1437: no, on iPL 20:34 < b0lt> eh 20:34 < b0lt> it doesn't really "work" 20:34 < b0lt> it shows a few frames 20:34 < b0lt> then crashes 20:34 < Ice_Wewe> HELP!!!!! 20:34 < madcat> slowcoder: gotta uninstall it first... 20:34 < b0lt> and i can't figure out why 20:34 < skier1437> on the new nightlies? what format 20:34 < b0lt> skier1437: i coded it 20:34 < Ice_Wewe> I've deleted my /mnt/iPod/bin/podzilla, and replaced it with a new one, but it still shows up as the old version... why?! 20:36 < skier1437> what do u mean? 20:37 < Ice_Wewe> I mean I boot Linux, and go to Settings>About and it says 2005-06-03CVS. Now I want a new version so I can use the new features, so I remove /mnt/iPod/bin/podzilla and replace it with 2005-11-20-podzilla (renamed to podzilla) and reboot, and it shows as the same thing! 20:38 < Bofia> how long does it take to load a video 20:38 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: try a sync between the two cp 20:39 -!- tcmjr [n=tadeu@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:39 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: sync the two cp? 20:39 < skier1437> what about playing compressed video 20:39 < Bofia> how long does it take to load a video in IPL? 20:39 < skier1437> about 6 seconds 20:39 < Bofia> ... 20:40 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: could you explain further? 20:40 < madcat> slowcoder: ok managed to get the original firmware 20:40 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: what system are you using ? 20:40 < Ice_Wewe> Mac OS X 20:40 < Ice_Wewe> 10.4.3 20:40 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: are you using the terminal ? 20:40 < Bofia> a video is stcuk on loading 20:40 < Bofia> on my ipod 20:41 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: X11 terminal, yes 20:41 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: when you have rm'ed /mnt/stuff 20:41 < madcat> launch sync 20:41 -!- NitroX7 [n=nitrodas@adsl-68-78-129-191.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 < madcat> to flush the buffers 20:41 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: I did 20:41 < madcat> then cp the new version 20:41 < NitroX7> hru guys 20:41 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: maybe even umount it... 20:41 < NitroX7> does the ipod video player play the same format as the ipod video? 20:42 < Bofia> no 20:42 < NitroX7> awh 20:43 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: ok, I did it with syncing inbetween 20:44 < Ice_Wewe> madcat, b0lt is there perhaps another binary of podzilla that isn't in /mnt/iPod/bin? 20:44 -!- NitroX7 [n=nitrodas@adsl-68-78-129-191.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:45 < madcat> slowcoder: woohoo, got it to work. Just picked up the official firmware from apple, made the new with make_fw 20:45 < b0lt> leaving now 20:45 < b0lt> bye everyone 20:45 -!- b0lt [i=1000@pool-141-151-165-39.pitt.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:45 < slowcoder> madcat: Congrats 20:46 < Bofia> wtf 20:46 < Bofia> i tried to play a video and it says audio buffer is null 20:46 < madcat> slowcoder: thanks anyway 20:47 < Ice_Wewe> WHAT THE FUCK?!?! 20:47 < aegray> Bofia: stop loading other shit 20:47 < madcat> Ice_Wewe: Still doesn't work ? 20:47 < Ice_Wewe> madcat: yes 20:48 < Bofia> load other shit? 20:48 < Bofia> as in what 20:48 < aegray> what do you do before you load the video? 20:48 < Bofia> run podzilla 20:48 < aegray> right after boot 20:48 < aegray> from filebrowser? 20:48 < Bofia> yea 20:49 < aegray> why isn't podzilla already running? 20:49 < aegray> erm - why are you loading podzilla from inside podzilla? 20:49 < Bofia> im using floydzilla 20:49 < Ice_Wewe> madcat, slowcoder HELP!!!!!! 20:49 < aegray> yea - that means theres two copies of podzilla in memory - and there isn't enough room for video 20:49 < aegray> stop loading other stuff 20:49 < Bofia> oh 20:50 < davidc__> Ice_Wewe: what the fuck you want? 20:50 < davidc__> or should I just kick you for screaming nonsensically? 20:52 < Ice_Wewe> davidc__: I want to get podzilla to work, but it's being a bitch 20:52 < aegray> *it's* being a bitch? 20:52 < Ice_Wewe> aegray: would you call refusing to upgrade for the 10th time in a row being a bitch? 20:53 < aegray> i don't think podzilla "refuses to update" 20:53 < aegray> i think its user error 20:53 < aegray> therefore you are being the bitch 20:53 < aegray> because you're refusing to update it 20:54 < aegray> windows? 20:54 * aegray gives 30:1 odds on that 20:54 < Ice_Wewe> aegray: no, Mac OS X 20:54 < twistx_> heh 20:54 < aegray> damn 20:54 < aegray> i lose 20:55 -!- cdegroot [n=cg@ip54575e0e.direct-adsl.nl] has left #ipodlinux ["Client Exiting"] 20:55 < Bofia> ok wtf 20:55 < erus> aegray your a hobvo now 20:55 < Bofia> audio buffer is still null 20:55 < Bofia> after i run podzilla directly 20:55 < erus> hobo* , is your mother proud of you? bitch :) 20:56 < aegray> wan't me to kill you? 20:56 < aegray> Bofia: mpd? 20:56 -!- madcat [n=madcat__@maison.mymadcat.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:57 < Bofia> nope 20:57 < aegray> so it just runs podzilla from rc? 20:57 < Bofia> yea 20:57 < aegray> and you go directly to loading the video in the filebrowser 20:57 < aegray> ? 20:57 < Bofia> yea 20:57 < aegray> what else is in rc? 20:57 < Bofia> thats it 20:58 < aegray> i tend to not belive you - podzilla by itself uses a limited amount of memory - that video works with 20:58 < aegray> so i don't know 20:58 < Ice_Wewe> can someone help me with my podzilla? 20:58 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:03 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@208-58-242-246.s246.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 < Ice_Wewe> maybe its my userland? I reverted back to the original podzilla, and it still says 2005-06-03CVS 21:05 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A85CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 21:07 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-220-191.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:07 -!- BHSPitLappy_ [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-220-191.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:09 < Ice_Wewe> do I need to remake the kernel or anything else when I upgrade podzilla? 21:16 < maxx_730> I assume you just upgrade the podzilla binary and it's dependencies? (if any?) 21:16 < Ice_Wewe> maxx_730: tried it, no differnce 21:17 -!- boss429 [i=boss429@is.g0d.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:17 < boss429> lol "yes you screwed up your nano" 21:18 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-152-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["jezz rundumerneuert -> #lw-rulez und http://www.lw-rulez.de.vu"] 21:20 < robin_> any iPod nano uses that have mpd working? 21:20 < Ice_Wewe> maxx_730: you'd think so, but no 21:20 < robin_> *users 21:20 < Ice_Wewe> can anyone help me? Do I like need to rebuild the kernel or something? 21:21 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: why don't you just copy the podzilla in /bin / 21:21 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: ? 21:22 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: done that about 15 times now, still is the old version 21:22 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: hmm, did you sync ? did you umount it correctly ? 21:23 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: I sometimes also have that files are not updated.. 21:23 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: so check that. 21:23 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: checked 21:23 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: been updated 21:24 < Bofia> maybe the dev's havent updated the podzilla about file 21:24 < Ice_Wewe> Bofia: none of the 'new' features are there 21:24 -!- SlashX [n=SlashX@pcp03325591pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 < Ice_Wewe> like the battery icon showing that it's charging 21:24 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcu123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:25 < Bofia> oh 21:25 < robin_> hmm I think you are doing something wrong than. 21:25 < Bofia> yeah 21:25 < Bofia> try to delete the podzilla 21:25 < Bofia> and run 21:25 < Bofia> see if it runs 21:26 < Ice_Wewe> Bofia: ok 21:26 < robin_> any iPod nano users that have mpd working? 21:26 < SlashX> hey 21:27 < SlashX> can someone help me please? 21:27 < robin_> btw why is iPodLinux using 2.4.x kernels and not 2.6.x ? 21:27 < aegray> because we felt like it 21:27 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: 2.6 is probably to large 21:28 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: too large, I doubt that 21:28 < robin_> you can strip the kernel as you like. 21:28 < imphasing|sleep> is mdpc working? 21:28 < SlashX> i tryed to get some stuff on my ipod, from ur site, and it didtn work so i got rid of it.. and now when ever i connect my ipod it says its connected but then when i disconnecct it says OK to d.c and doesnt let me do anything 21:28 < robin_> and I thought the arm part is more advanced in the 2.6 series. 21:29 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: it is in disk mode, hold Menu and Play for 10 seconds, and let it reboot 21:29 < SlashX> right now my ipod isnt connected to anything, and it says OK to Disconnect, and the check mark, and the top says Diskmode 21:29 < SlashX> o ok 21:29 < SlashX> it wont reset 21:29 < SlashX> reboot* 21:30 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: removed podzilla from /mnt/iPod/sbin, still starts... 21:30 < Bofia> ... 21:30 < Bofia> 1. your not holding it long enough 21:30 < Bofia> 2. your not pressing them right 21:30 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: so you filesystem isn't updated 21:30 < boss429> is there any updates with the ipod photo color (0x00060004) 21:30 < robin_> *your 21:30 < SlashX> hold the menu and the play/pause button for 10 econds at the exact same time? 21:30 < boss429> i got such a shitty ipod ;( 21:30 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: it's gone from /mnt/iPod/sbin 21:30 < Bofia> its menu + action 21:30 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: gaurnteed 21:31 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: magic 21:31 < SlashX> ooo 21:31 < SlashX> action 21:31 < SlashX> thanks 21:31 < Bofia> menu + action 21:31 < SlashX> another error 21:31 < maxx_730> yeah, seriously, why does ipodlinux still use the old 2.4 kernel? 21:31 < Bofia> ? 21:31 < SlashX> i see a folder with a error sign 21:31 < maxx_730> Isn't 2.6 supposed to be faster? 21:31 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: if the file is not in /bin, it can't be launched. 21:31 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: then what do you suggest? might it be hiding somewhere else? 21:31 < SlashX> and it gives me an apply link 21:31 < SlashX> apple* 21:31 < Bofia> er 21:31 < SlashX> then shuts off 21:31 < Bofia> what did you do to cause it 21:32 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: no don't think so. have you run 'sync' ? 21:32 < SlashX> i dunno. i tryed installing a game to it w/o having ipodlinux or anything on it lol 21:32 < imphasing|sleep> What binary is supposedly causing the problem? 21:32 -!- ubermensch [n=thrice@host220-32.pool82104.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 < Bofia> try going back to diskmode, plug it in 21:32 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: many times 21:32 < Bofia> and then run ipod restore 21:32 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: am I supposed to do this in disk mode?! 21:32 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: yes 21:32 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: why? 21:32 < SlashX> how do i run ipod restore? 21:32 < maxx_730> sync? isn't the cache automatically synced to the driver every 6 seconds? 21:32 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: does it not write if you're not in disk mode? 21:32 < maxx_730> sorry that should be driver of course 21:32 < maxx_730> drive! 21:32 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: it is contained in the iPod itself, or in the Apple update program 21:33 < Bofia> its part of your ipod updater 21:33 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: well, mine automatically goes to disk mode when I connect it to my PC, so 21:33 < ubermensch> haha maxx_730 21:33 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: you can go to Settings>Restore 21:33 < robin_> Ice_Wewe: try it and find out. 21:33 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: or you can go to the update util, and do it there 21:33 < Ice_Wewe> robin_: fine 21:33 < SlashX> so run the updater? 21:34 < Bofia> yea 21:34 < robin_> aegray: 2.6 won't run ? 21:35 < SlashX> it tells me to plug in my ipod, when it is plugged in, and in the ipod its self it says DO not Disconnect. 21:35 < Bofia> ok 21:35 < Bofia> does your computer recognize it 21:36 < SlashX> ya i have acces to the ipod drive, IPOD (G:) 21:36 < Bofia> ok 21:36 < Bofia> run ipod updator 21:37 < SlashX> the one under C:\Program Files\iPod\iPod Updater 2005-09-23 21:37 < SlashX> ? 21:37 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: is there any other? 21:37 < SlashX> yeah but its out of date 21:37 < Bofia> yes 21:37 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: then run it 21:38 < SlashX> it wont let me update 21:38 < SlashX> its telling me to plug it in 21:38 < SlashX> when it is plugged in. 21:38 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: well it isn't going to update when it's not plugged in, it doesn't telepathically talk to your iPod 21:38 < SlashX> it is plugged in though... 21:39 < SlashX> i checked the cords.. its all fine, and my ipod says Do not Disconnect, 21:40 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: is it in disk edit mode? 21:40 < SlashX> how do i find out? 21:40 * Ice_Wewe laughs his way OUT of the building 21:40 < SlashX> lol 21:40 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:40 < SlashX> yeas it is 21:40 < SlashX> yes* 21:41 < Ice_Wewe> well put it in the NORMAL mode 21:41 * SlashX is new with ipods and doesnt know how :P 21:41 < twistx_> thats ok ice is a retard 21:41 < SlashX> i think im the retard o.O 21:42 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: that's ok, twistx_ was dropped on his head as a baby 21:42 < SlashX> ok then... so u gonna help lol 21:42 -!- shrewder [n=shrewder@bcu123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:43 < Ice_Wewe> SlashX: disconnect it from your PC, and hold down the Play and Menu buttons for 10 seconds, at that time, you will see the Apple logo show up, then STOP PRESSING ANYTHING, and let it boot 21:43 < Bofia> his normal mode doesnt work 21:43 < Bofia> it gives him the folder icon 21:43 < Bofia> and the apple support url 21:43 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < SlashX> Yup... 21:44 < Bofia> use the hp format uti 21:44 < Bofia> util 21:44 < Bofia> its somewhere in the forums 21:44 < SlashX> search the fourms for hp format util? 21:46 < maxx_730> http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ 21:46 < SlashX> i just found my same problem on the fourms, im gonna check up on it 21:46 < SlashX> brb 21:49 < SlashX> where is this restore Tool... 21:51 < maxx_730> lol i just posted the link 21:51 < robin_> why is ext3 been used, and not for exampel jffs2 which is specialized for flash memory ? 21:51 < maxx_730> yeah 21:51 < maxx_730> or cramfs? 21:53 -!- SlashX is now known as slashx|away 21:54 < erus> i got college tomoz 21:54 < erus> 2 lessons :( start and end of the day 21:57 -!- slashx|away is now known as slashx 21:59 < slashx> it wont let me restore 22:00 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < slashx> Plug in an ipod to update it. eveno tho it is plugged in 22:03 < frijole> disk mode 22:03 < slashx> it is 22:04 -!- slashx is now known as SlashX 22:04 -!- SlashX is now known as SlashX1896 22:07 < frijole> hm 22:07 < frijole> what platfom are you on? mac/pc? 22:07 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-64-216-237-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 < SlashX1896> pc windows xp 22:08 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:09 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["You can breathe without The 7 Deadly Sins, but I wouldn't recommend it.   [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 22:09 < frijole> does the iPod show up in My Computer? 22:09 -!- BHSPitLappy_ [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-220-191.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:09 < SlashX1896> yes 22:09 < frijole> :-/ 22:09 < frijole> odd 22:09 -!- eightballx [i=eightbal@host81-155-85-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:09 * frijole shrugs 22:09 < frijole> i 'unno 22:09 < SlashX1896> ug 22:11 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:12 -!- porrinhes [n=sakjd_fl@247.Red-83-60-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 < SlashX1896> since no1 here can help me, should i just post it? 22:15 < porrinhes> hi, only come to say... thank you developers :) ipod nano with linux, doom and playing futurama video :P 22:16 < SlashX1896> lucky :P, i cant do that and actualy have fun with a mini 22:17 -!- maxx_730 [n=max@c529ca094.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:17 -!- boss429 [i=boss429@is.g0d.net] has quit ["simon says: rehashing"] 22:19 < porrinhes> well it have spent all the evening, formating-reformating and re-reformating but at the end it worked... and it is easy :) 22:19 -!- Prot [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:20 < porrinhes> and it is very solid, no hangs no video corruption no frame rate cuts... everything fine. The only flaw is that dont support any video compresion and my 20 minutes futurama chapter sizes 900 mb 22:21 -!- SlashX1896 [n=SlashX@pcp03325591pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:25 -!- skier1437 [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-64-216-237-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:44 -!- TUNIX [n=kener@p5488830F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:44 < TUNIX> hello.. 22:44 < TUNIX> good evening :) 22:45 -!- DDusti1 [n=ddustin@71.141.147.65] has joined #ipodlinux 22:45 < TUNIX> i know nano isn't actually supported, but i got it working except for the shutdown.. the ipod resets and reboots linux.. 22:46 -!- iNT0XiC8D [i=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:46 -!- anachronism [n=chatzill@p54A97D11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:47 < TUNIX> does somebody have a apple_os.bin arround, cause i think mine got messed up by running the install script twice.. 22:47 < aegray> restore it 22:47 < aegray> we can't give you that 22:48 < TUNIX> y? 22:48 < aegray> copywrite 22:48 < TUNIX> i only have linux... 22:49 < aegray> copyright* 22:49 < aegray> then use a reshacker and extract it from the updater.exe 22:49 < TUNIX> and as far as i know apple doesnt offer linux tools for recovering or things like that.. 22:49 < anachronism> excuse me, does by chance somebody know what to do when the following has happened: I installed ipodlinux with the windows-installer, then after rebooting it it only did show a "/!\" so i resetted the ipod via the software you update the firmware with. After that my ipod turned off, i can't turn it on again. And i can't reset it with the hold+menu etc button combination either 22:50 < anachronism> And recharging it doesn't seem to work, it just doesn't react 22:50 -!- DDustin [n=ddustin@71.141.147.65] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:50 -!- DDusti1 is now known as DDustin 22:50 < aegray> it shoudl wake up when plugged in and you press center 22:50 < anachronism> I hope letting it lay around there, discharging its battery will work, but i am really concerned 22:50 < aegray> if not - something hardware went wrong probably 22:50 < anachronism> okay thanks, let me try again 22:51 < anachronism> didn't work, damn :( 22:51 < anachronism> i guess i really ruined it 22:52 < aegray> weird 22:52 < aegray> never heard of that 22:52 < anachronism> me neither, usually resetting it via the button combinations always worked. I'm gonna let sit in the shelf for a couple of days. I hope battery discharging will help 22:53 < TUNIX> can somebody pass me a link to the linux floydzilla download? 22:53 < TUNIX> my firefox crashes, when i click the download button 22:54 < TUNIX> aegray: a reshacker in linux? 22:54 < aegray> or using wine 22:55 -!- masquerade_ [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:58 < anachronism> yay it works again :D, i tried several key combinations again and now it did actually reboot. whew, i was really worried 22:59 -!- Laptricity [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:00 < aegray> cool 23:01 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACC82AC5.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:01 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 < anachronism> thanks for helping me, have to go to bed now or i will oversleep, good night everyone 23:02 -!- erus [n=noneofyo@ACC82AC5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 23:02 -!- anachronism [n=chatzill@p54A97D11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 23:04 < imphasing|sleep> I want to port lisp to iPL.. 23:05 -!- karmon [n=chatzill@Toronto-HSE-ppp3684305.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 23:05 < TUNIX> someone please a link to floydzilla binaries for linux :) 23:05 < karmon> anyone know where i can download the iboy src? 23:06 < Mark__> can i comile podzilla for x86? :P 23:06 < Mark__> and use it 23:06 < Mark__> instead of a real x system 23:07 < Mark__> i know theres microwindows and all that... 23:07 < imphasing|sleep> probably, but why? 23:07 < Mark__> just 23:07 < Mark__> giant ipod on the cheap :P 23:07 < imphasing|sleep> that's what media players are for.. 23:07 < imphasing|sleep> just run it standalone 23:07 < imphasing|sleep> only useful for testing apps on x86 anyway 23:07 < karmon> aegray: do you know where i can download the src for iboy? 23:07 < aegray> from cvs 23:08 < aegray> on sourceforge 23:08 < karmon> i looked 23:08 < karmon> couldnt find it 23:08 -!- masquerade_ is now known as masquerade 23:08 < karmon> well i found the page, but couldnt find a link to download 23:08 < aegray> you have to checkout 23:09 < imphasing|sleep> If you don't know what cvs is, you have no hope of downloading it 23:09 < imphasing|sleep> google for some info on cvs 23:09 < karmon> i know what cvs is 23:09 < imphasing|sleep> good? 23:10 < imphasing|sleep> Do you know how to work it? 23:10 < karmon> how do i checkout if i dont know where its located? 23:10 < karmon> therefore: no i dont really know how to work it 23:13 < aegray> look at the checkout directions on sourceforge 23:16 < karmon> oh i see 23:16 < karmon> thanks 23:16 -!- Prot [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:16 -!- Laptricity [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:18 < karmon> aegray: what do i replace module anme with? 23:18 < aegray> iboy? 23:18 < karmon> k 23:20 < TUNIX> here a link to iboy: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=144523 23:25 -!- puremourning [n=pure@cpc3-woki4-4-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Sex-Chat-2.0.1 - http://www.sex-chat.com"] 23:30 -!- Prot [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:30 -!- Laptricity [n=444@ip70-162-15-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:36 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:40 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:41 -!- TUNIX [n=kener@p5488830F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["bye"] 23:46 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:48 < imphasing|sleep> Anyone here know any functional programming langs? 23:49 < imphasing|sleep> as in -not- imperative 23:52 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 23:56 -!- imphasing|sleep is now known as imphasing 23:56 < porrinhes> thank you and bye :) 23:56 -!- porrinhes [n=sakjd_fl@247.Red-83-60-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 23:59 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Mon Nov 21 00:00:00 2005