--- Log opened Thu Nov 17 00:00:02 2005 00:00 < BHSPitLappy> aegray's working on usb i believe, well, usb in general 00:00 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has left #ipodlinux ["rotate this bitch"] 00:00 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 00:00 < ubermensch> with what in mind? normal ipod functions, like music sync up and stuff? 00:01 * BHSPitLappy *shrug* 00:01 < joecool> i'd like to see it just mountable while booted to linux 00:01 < imphasing> yeah 00:01 < BHSPitLappy> indeed 00:01 < BHSPitLappy> device-to-device music transfer would be the bomb 00:01 < BHSPitLappy> lol 00:01 < imphasing> it exists...just uber slow 00:01 < BHSPitLappy> super-direct-peer-to-peer 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> i know 00:02 < BHSPitLappy> have you used it yourself? 00:02 < imphasing> nope 00:05 < satsonic> LOL 00:06 < satsonic> blackdog is a hardware based solution not a linux OS like ipodlinux 00:06 < Bofia> of course not 00:06 < satsonic> Ozymandi1s, ^^^^ 00:06 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:06 < Bofia> but it would be uber cool if you could get the ipod to do what blackdog does 00:07 < satsonic> Bofia, Ozymandi1s misunderstand i think 00:07 < satsonic> yeah 00:07 < ubermensch> yeah, i think he was just wondering if the same functionality was possible with ipodlinux 00:08 < imphasing> it's theoreticaly possible 00:08 -!- qatsi_ [n=qatsi@host-201-141-45-43.cablevision.net.mx] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 < qatsi_> hi all ! 00:08 < imphasing> hi 00:08 < Bofia> you just need a way to use the ipods processor from a PC 00:08 < ubermensch> will the normal nightly builds of the kernel not work with pz2? 00:08 < ubermensch> err, the other way around i mean 00:08 < qatsi_> uhmm, im a member of the "stupid people who insisted in trying to install linux on his vide ipod" and.....i just can recover it :p 00:09 < qatsi_> can anyone help me ? 00:09 < imphasing> Bofia, wtf? 00:09 < imphasing> qatsi_, yeah 00:09 < Bofia> thats basically what blackdog does 00:09 < Bofia> i think 00:09 < BHSPitLappy> qatsi_: the backup you surely made 00:09 < ubermensch> hehe 00:09 < imphasing> qatsi_, what's the problem? 00:09 < qatsi_> BHSPitLappy ha, yes....backup is dead :p ahahaha 00:09 < Ozymandi1s> wait a second, I did not misunderstand. The Blackdog has basic hardware in common with an iPod, and seems to me, many of the principles will work the same on the two 00:09 < joecool> BHSPitLappy 00:10 < Bofia> if blackdog was open source 00:10 < Bofia> maybe 00:10 < Ozymandi1s> Bofia: it is. 00:10 < Bofia> no 00:10 < Ozymandi1s> it is based on debian 00:10 < Bofia> only the SDK is opensource 00:10 < imphasing> I'm just gogin to ignore everything you morons say 00:10 < imphasing> :D 00:10 < BHSPitLappy> joecool 00:10 < Bofia> ...ok have fun porting debian 00:10 < imphasing> qatsi_, what's the problem? 00:11 < Ozymandi1s> SOFTWARE 00:11 < Ozymandi1s> * Debian-based Linux with 2.6.10 Kernel 00:11 < Ozymandi1s> * Software Development Kit 00:11 < Ozymandi1s> * Sample Applications 00:11 < qatsi_> imphasing well, i installed linux on the ipod video, but it dosnt work...now i want it recovered. Ive installed everything, i mean ipod and itunes, and now its in disk mode, but the ipod firmware restore cant mount my ipod 00:11 < Ozymandi1s> so in theory some of the same ideas can be used... 00:11 < joecool> qatsi_ 00:11 < qatsi_> imphasing the error message is "Cant mount ipod" 00:11 < imphasing> ok, that problem 00:11 < joecool> qatsi_ 00:11 < imphasing> qatsi_, you on windows? 00:11 < qatsi_> imphasing yes, and i have Gentoo and Kubuntu, if you want linux acces 00:11 < BHSPitLappy> joecool: that gets annoying to people. 00:12 < joecool> qatsi_ 00:12 < qatsi_> joecool ? 00:12 < joecool> BHSPitLappy: he started it 00:12 < imphasing> qatsi_, ok, go ahead and boot kubuntu, and get back on irc 00:12 < joecool> qatsi_ 00:12 < BHSPitLappy> and i'm gonna finish it if you don't behave yourself! 00:12 < qatsi_> imphasing ok, ill do that, brb 00:12 -!- qatsi_ [n=qatsi@host-201-141-45-43.cablevision.net.mx] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:13 < ubermensch> will pz2 run on the normal nightly build 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< qatsi> im back 00:20 < Bofia> you missed the netsplit 00:21 < qatsi> ? 00:21 < BHSPitLappy> lol 00:21 < Bofia> lol 00:21 < qatsi> ha, well, im looking for somebody, but i forgot his nick :P 00:21 < imphasing> me 00:21 < imphasing> :D 00:21 < imphasing> you handy with linux? 00:21 < qatsi> imphasing: yep, you :) hahaha great 00:21 < imphasing> you're going to need to do some cfdisk stuff 00:21 < qatsi> imphasing: well, ive installed gentoo with stage 3 00:21 -!- CIA-1 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 00:21 < imphasing> nice 00:21 < imphasing> :D 00:22 < imphasing> where's your ipod? 00:22 < imphasing> sda? 00:22 < qatsi> imphasing: uhmm, cmfdisk isnt familiar...ive used fdisk :) but i think its familiar 00:22 < qatsi> imphasing: yes, sda1,2 and 3 00:22 < imphasing> ok, just open up a terminal and type 'cfdisk /dev/sda' 00:22 < imphasing> and delete all the partitions 00:22 < imphasing> you just navigate with the arrow keys 00:22 < imphasing> and chose 'delete' to get rid of it 00:23 < qatsi> get rid of everything ? 00:23 < imphasing> yeah 00:23 < qatsi> imphasing: uhmm, hope this isnt a joke, it would be awfull :P hahahahha 00:23 < qatsi> imphasing: ok, ill do it :P 00:23 < imphasing> you need the stuff on there? 00:24 < imphasing> if you do, don't do it 00:24 < ubermensch> it'll turn out alright, hehe don't worry 00:24 < Ozymandi1s> how big is a nano? 00:24 < imphasing> Ozymandi1s, about 5 minutes 00:24 < qatsi> imphasing: the data inside ? nope, is in my hdd, so i can just upload everything 00:24 < Ozymandi1s> compares to a iPod w/ dock 00:24 -!- karmon [n=chatzill@MTL-HSE-ppp176939.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:24 < imphasing> ok, cool 00:24 < imphasing> yes, get rid of every partition 00:24 < Ozymandi1s> i want to get a sense of scale for the pictures here: http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl/Blah.pl?,v=display,b=news,m=1131376783 00:25 < qatsi> imphasing: yes, no partitions now :S 00:25 < imphasing> ok, cool 00:25 < qatsi> imphasing: :( 00:25 < imphasing> now just make a new one 00:25 < imphasing> select 'new' 00:25 < imphasing> and it will make one 00:25 < qatsi> imphasing: primary i suppose 00:26 < imphasing> primary, and the defualt size 00:26 < imphasing> yes 00:26 < imphasing> after that, select 'type' 00:26 < qatsi> imphasing: the default size is 60GB :( haha 00:26 < imphasing> hit any key, then type in '06' 00:26 < imphasing> lol, that's fine 00:27 < imphasing> '06' makes it a FAT16 partition 00:27 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:27 < imphasing> which windows will recognize 00:27 < qatsi> imphasing: yep :P 00:27 < qatsi> imphasing: done :) 00:27 < imphasing> ok 00:27 < imphasing> now select 'write' 00:27 < imphasing> and type 'yes' 00:27 < imphasing> that will write it all to disk 00:27 < qatsi> imphasing: yep, fdisk is the same, but comand line :( 00:27 < imphasing> then quit, unmount, and boot into windows 00:27 < imphasing> yeah 00:27 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:28 < imphasing> after that, go into windows, right click on the drive, and tell it to format 00:28 < qatsi> should i setr the bootable flag ? 00:28 < imphasing> no 00:28 < imphasing> you don't need to 00:28 < qatsi> ok, just like this 00:28 < qatsi> then, ill boot up, and return 00:28 < imphasing> then after you format it with windows, restore with the CD 00:28 < imphasing> ok 00:28 < qatsi> ok, ill do that 00:28 < qatsi> brb thanx imphasing 00:28 < qatsi> brb 00:29 -!- qatsi [n=qatsi@host-201-141-45-43.cablevision.net.mx] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 00:29 < imphasing> no problem 00:29 < spazzium> hmm 00:31 -!- qatsi [n=qatsi@host-201-141-45-43.cablevision.net.mx] has joined #ipodlinux 00:32 < imphasing> hi 00:32 < qatsi> imphasing hey there, windows now :P 00:32 < imphasing> ok 00:32 < imphasing> right click on it in my computer, and format it 00:33 < qatsi> imphasing uhmmm, windows dosnt give me any file system to format :S 00:33 < imphasing> ...does the drive show up? 00:33 < qatsi> yes 00:33 < imphasing> huh... 00:33 < ubermensch> right click on it's icon 00:33 < imphasing> you can right click, tell it to format, and it doesn't show a filesystem? 00:33 < ubermensch> -> format 00:33 < imphasing> he knows thyat 00:33 < qatsi> imphasing yep 00:33 < imphasing> huh 00:34 < ubermensch> wtf 00:34 < imphasing> ok, just try the resotre utility... 00:34 < qatsi> ok... 00:34 < qatsi> imphasing uhmm, wait a sec, it says ipod service error 00:35 < imphasing> ah 00:35 < imphasing> ok 00:35 < qatsi> imphasing ill be back in a minute, my other computer dosnt have that problem 00:35 < spazzium> disk mode time 00:35 < imphasing> what happens when you click proporties in windows? 00:35 < qatsi> uhmm, let me do that...wait a sec 00:35 < imphasing> you know how to boot into disk mode? 00:35 < imphasing> ok 00:35 < qatsi> yep 00:35 < imphasing> do the same right click and format after you get into disk mode 00:36 < qatsi> still it says "Filesystem to format" and its empty, no selection :( 00:36 < satsonic> ce ya all ! 00:36 < qatsi> ill open partition magic...to se if its there 00:36 -!- satsonic [n=satsonic@220.224.37.156] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:36 < imphasing> ok 00:37 < qatsi> not in partition magic, but...can i format it with DOS ? 00:38 < qatsi> imphasing uhmm, no.... 00:38 < ubermensch> well, there's no dos in xp....but if you go to start > run > cmd, you have a command line where you can use the format command 00:38 -!- jedix [n=jedix@CPE0050da1eee90-CM000a73a144c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:39 < qatsi> ubermensch yes, but i dont know comand for formating, its..well format F: and something else...and i dont remember 00:39 < qatsi> wait a sec 00:39 < ubermensch> type format /? 00:39 < imphasing> what's the name of the drive? 00:39 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:40 < qatsi> imphasingF: 00:40 < imphasing> just type format F: then 00:40 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:41 < qatsi> it says FS type is RAW, use /FS to especify FS to use this volume 00:41 < ubermensch> /fat32? 00:41 < qatsi> ubermensch il try it 00:41 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:41 < imphasing> don't do that 00:42 < imphasing> try this: 00:42 < qatsi> imphasing uhmm, ok 00:42 < imphasing> format /FS:NTFS F: 00:42 < ubermensch> ?? 00:42 < ubermensch> why ntfs? 00:42 < imphasing> that what it usually is 00:42 < imphasing> and the defualt fs for XP 00:42 < spazzium> .... 00:42 < ubermensch> oh wait, i'm thinking from a linux users' point of view 00:42 < spazzium> a windows formatted ipod uses fat32 00:43 < ubermensch> yeah 00:43 < ubermensch> that's waht it hougt 00:43 < ubermensch> thought* 00:43 < imphasing> it might 00:43 < imphasing> I don't remember 00:43 < qatsi> it says that it isnt compatible with the device 00:43 < imphasing> haha 00:43 < imphasing> try fat32 then 00:43 < ubermensch> try /FS:FAT32 00:43 < imphasing> it wont work though 00:44 < qatsi> ok, now its formating 00:44 < imphasing> really... 00:44 < imphasing> surprising 00:44 < ubermensch> hurrah 00:44 < qatsi> uhmm....strange, its stucked in 0% as it should do that fast 00:44 < ubermensch> oops 00:44 < imphasing> it 60gb 00:44 < ubermensch> shoulda done /q 00:44 < imphasing> put this command in 00:44 < ubermensch> for quick 00:44 < imphasing> /Q 00:44 < imphasing> yeah 00:44 < qatsi> ok 00:44 < ubermensch> forgot about that 00:44 < ubermensch> it would take forever withouti t 00:45 < imphasing> it's been too long since my windows days... 00:45 < ubermensch> hehe yeah, that's a good sign though =) 00:45 < imphasing> yeah it is 00:46 < qatsi> so it should be /FS:FAT32 :F /Q ? 00:46 < imphasing> like this: 00:46 < imphasing> format F: /FS:FAT32 /Q 00:46 < qatsi> ha, i mixed up the code 00:47 < qatsi> volume is to big for fat32 :S 00:47 < spazzium> need lba addressing 00:47 < imphasing> which is why you need ntsf... 00:47 < qatsi> im trying with NTFS, tight ? 00:47 < imphasing> hmm... 00:47 < qatsi> right ? 00:48 < imphasing> you already tried it 00:48 < qatsi> again ? 00:48 < qatsi> nope, no luck :p 00:48 < qatsi> FAT16 ? 00:48 < ubermensch> i first set up my ipod in windows, and it's definitely fat32 00:48 < ubermensch> ahhh 00:48 < ubermensch> but 00:48 < ubermensch> alas 00:48 < qatsi> ? 00:48 < ubermensch> i have but a 6 gig drive 00:49 < imphasing> fat16 is only for less than 34.3 mb 00:49 < ubermensch> hehe yeah 00:49 < qatsi> imphasing then no :P hahaha 00:49 < imphasing> yeah... 00:49 < imphasing> um 00:49 < qatsi> brb, ill try to use the utility in my other pc, brb 00:50 < imphasing> http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqdt/us/download/20306.html 00:50 < imphasing> try that utility 00:50 -!- Ankit [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:51 < qatsi> ok, il try that 00:51 < Ankit> any info on if the windows nano installer works? 00:51 < imphasing> Ankit, not yet 00:51 < Ankit> okay 00:51 < Ankit> people are trying it now? 00:51 < Ankit> i heard on the forum it works 00:52 < imphasing> Ankit, I don't know... 00:52 < Ankit> okay 00:52 < qatsi> imphasing uhmm, downloading...is it diffrerent from the apple one ? 00:52 < imphasing> it's just a USB formatter 00:52 < imphasing> it should do FAT32 00:52 < qatsi> imphasing uhmm, ok 00:52 < imphasing> it doesn't format it for music stuff 00:52 < imphasing> just as a drive 00:52 < imphasing> then you can restore 00:53 < qatsi> ok 00:53 < qatsi> it says which FS do i want to use.... 00:53 < imphasing> fat32 00:53 < qatsi> ive selected FAT32, and an error came saying Volume Too Big 00:53 < imphasing> ok, what other types are there? 00:54 < qatsi> NTFS and FAT 00:54 < imphasing> try ntfs then 00:54 < qatsi> "Checking the device...." 00:54 < BHSPitLappy> i have a sneaking suspicion that the apple software won't recognize it... 00:54 < qatsi> "Formatting the device...." 00:55 < qatsi> uhhmm, intresting, its working 00:55 < BHSPitLappy> well of course formatting it will work 00:55 < Ankit> would some1 please notify me through this chat if any info is recieved on if the ipod nano windows installer works... thanks in advance 00:55 < BHSPitLappy> i doubt the apple restorer will see it though 00:55 < qatsi> BHSPitMonkey uhmm, formating before this wouldnt work 00:56 < BHSPitLappy> then moses hates you 00:56 < qatsi> BHSPitLappy :p 00:57 < imphasing> when it's done, try the restore utility 00:58 < qatsi> imphasing yes, now its using the apple firmware restore utility..... 00:58 < qatsi> hope it works 00:59 < qatsi> in a webpage they said that when you format your ipod, you have to send it to apples care center 00:59 < BHSPitLappy> lol 01:00 -!- Ankit [n=chatzill@pcp0011400533pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]"] 01:01 < qatsi> seems it worked out pretty good 01:01 < qatsi> thanks man 01:01 < imphasing> coooool 01:01 < imphasing> no problem 01:01 < qatsi> but... wait 01:01 < BHSPitLappy> lol 01:01 < imphasing> heh 01:01 < qatsi> really really thank you !! i think i will post a solution for other noobs like me :) 01:01 < qatsi> thank you very much, see ya ! 01:02 < qatsi> see, we mexican guys say chido el barrio 01:02 < qatsi> means, cool brother 01:02 < imphasing> sweet 01:02 < imphasing> :D 01:04 < qatsi> chido, el barrio, im leaving now, thanx again :) 01:04 -!- qatsi [n=qatsi@host-201-141-45-43.cablevision.net.mx] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:04 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:05 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:13 -!- Zedle 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(i've already compiled ttk btw) 01:14 < josh_> ubermensch: known problem, I'm fixing it as we speak 01:14 < imphasing> Josh_, yay! 01:14 < imphasing> :D 01:15 < imphasing> I've been working on making an html parser for the ipod 01:15 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 01:15 < imphasing> using the new ttk bindings 01:15 < tcmjr> Hey guys, pdz2 already playing music ? 01:15 < josh_> tcmjr: not yet, courtc's working on an MPD module 01:15 < tcmjr> Great :) 01:16 < imphasing> MPD? 01:16 < josh_> `mpd 01:16 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). Unofficial tutorial at http://nanosouffle.net/beta/nanoMod?name=podMPD. [from josh_] 01:16 < imphasing> ah 01:16 < josh_> lets you play music in the background 01:16 < imphasing> nice... 01:16 < imphasing> that's going to be awesome 01:16 < josh_> yeah 01:17 < tcmjr> So the mpd module will have all the features of the actual mpd work (flac, ogg, mp3 and aac) ? 01:17 < imphasing> is there a wiki page on how to compile modules? 01:17 < josh_> tcmjr: yes. 01:17 < josh_> imphasing: working on one, after I fix the SDL problem 01:17 < tcmjr> Sweet. 01:17 < josh_> but basically, make -C /path/to/podzilla2/dir SUBDIRS=`pwd` 01:17 < imphasing> ah 01:17 < aegray__> haha 1666 diggs for nano video 01:17 < aegray__> what a joke 01:17 < aegray__> 4 gigs of a crappy movie 01:17 < imphasing> lol 01:18 < josh_> or put your dir in /path/to/podzilla2/dir/modules and it'll automatically be compiled along with the rest of the pz modules 01:18 < BHSPitLappy> heh, i didn't see this post about iPL on iPW 01:18 < Zol> josh_: does the menu show up on newer color lcds? 01:18 < josh_> Zol: it should :-) 01:18 < imphasing> josh_, cool 01:19 < Zol> nice nice :) 01:19 < imphasing> no textview for pz2 yet? 01:19 < BHSPitLappy> how buggy is your builds of pz2, people? :) 01:19 < josh_> Zol: I'll be releasing a new version of bootsplash doon, if that works PZ2 will also 01:19 < BHSPitLappy> *are... 01:19 < josh_> imphasing: what do you mean? 01:19 < imphasing> BHSPitLappy, very buggy 01:19 < BHSPitLappy> yay. 01:19 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: said bugs are being fixed rapidly 01:19 < BHSPitLappy> i can tell 01:19 < tcmjr> josh_, does it means all audio support for pz2 will be using mpd and the focus will shift to working on mpd ? 01:19 < BHSPitLappy> way to go. 01:19 < imphasing> josh_, nothing happens when you click the text files in pz2 01:19 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:19 < josh_> imphasing: ah yeah, you'd have to make a module for that ;-) 01:19 < josh_> it would be extraordinarily simple though 01:20 < ubermensch> josh_, have you fixed the problem with the wrong sdl libs in the pz2 subversion? 01:20 < josh_> ubermensch: not yet 01:20 < BHSPitLappy> extraordinarily, you say? 01:20 < josh_> working on it, be patient 01:20 < imphasing> I'll get on that 01:20 < josh_> BHSPitLappy: yes. about 10 lines of code. 01:20 < ubermensch> ok no problem, just wondering 01:20 < BHSPitLappy> seven syllables of speech too 01:21 < ubermensch> sorry, i didn't see your message for me a few mins ago =) 01:21 < BHSPitLappy> you guys saw the mention of nano's video player on iPW's homepage? 01:21 < imphasing> josh_, can you jsut use the textview.c from the old podzilla? 01:21 < imphasing> wait..of course not... 01:21 < josh_> pretty nearly yes, actually 01:22 < imphasing> just have to change some things for ttk? 01:22 < josh_> just have to remove all the actual text viewing code, since there's a TTK widget that does that 01:22 < imphasing> ah 01:22 < josh_> the only part you need is the read-file-into-memory function 01:22 < tcmjr> Does that HD videos , means we could build an main menu just like the front row thing on the iPod ? 01:23 < josh_> tcmjr: eventually 01:23 < tcmjr> sweet 01:23 < imphasing> josh_, BuildLineData? 01:23 < tcmjr> I'm excited to do something to help. 01:23 < tcmjr> I know C, but my coding skill sucks 01:23 < tcmjr> I get really lost with all those files, have no clue where to start. 01:24 < Luke> josh_: I dont think anything is fixed with the site. It seems whenever the server is under heavy load it is failing db queries. You should tell veteran all the times its gone down so he can find the pattern and fix it 01:24 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:24 -!- Bofia [n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [] 01:24 < josh_> imphasing: I don't know, I've got it somewhere. I'll add it soon. 01:24 < josh_> Luke: ok 01:24 < josh_> veteran: ping 01:24 < Luke> josh_: thanks mate 01:24 < josh_> n/p 01:24 < Luke> gold star for you =) 01:25 < tcmjr> Anyone have a clue from where should I start ? 01:25 < josh_> tcmjr: well, first digest the TTK API 01:25 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-api.pdf 01:26 < tcmjr> already d/l the pdf 01:26 < BHSPitLappy> wow, people are just stupid... http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=182979&tstart=0 01:26 < tcmjr> Need to read it with attention 01:26 < josh_> as far as the PZ API, I'm going to try to get some docs up tonight or tomorrow 01:26 < josh_> but there's not much there yet. 01:28 < tcmjr> The PZ API as in the legacy one ? 01:28 < josh_> no, the new one 01:28 < josh_> pz_* functions 01:28 < tcmjr> oh ok 01:28 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 < imphasing> josh_, you think it will get rid of the libc errors once you get that sdl thing fixed? 01:28 < josh_> imphasing: yes. 01:29 < imphasing> or once we all leave you alone enough so you can do some work... 01:29 < imphasing> :D 01:29 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:29 -!- iPL-SVN [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:34 < Zol> what would i have to do to add modules to pz2 once it's fully working? (on XP 01:34 < josh_> Zol: drop modules in folder, restart iPod 01:34 -!- Elori [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:34 < Zol> no start file? 01:35 < josh_> correct 01:35 < Zol> wow, sounds hard 01:35 < josh_> not really 01:35 < Zol> good job 01:35 < imphasing> you have to code a module 01:35 < imphasing> :D 01:35 < Zol> (sarcasm on that hard bit) 01:35 < josh_> ah 01:36 < Zol> will the main body of stuff still be on the "invisible to windows users" partition? 01:36 < josh_> we're debating that one 01:36 < josh_> for various reasons, most stuff depends on things FAT32 can't deliver 01:36 < josh_> for instance, symlinks 01:36 < josh_> but we might wind up putting all the Linux stuff in a *file* on the FAT32 ptn 01:36 < Zol> what type of partition does linux use? 01:36 < Zol> ext? 01:37 < josh_> ext2 01:37 < Zol> ah 01:38 < tcmjr> would it be a pita to support both ? 01:38 < imphasing> josh_, ttk looks so clean...it's some really nice work. 01:38 < josh_> imphasing: thanks 01:38 < josh_> tcmjr: what do you mean? 01:38 < josh_> PZ0 and PZ2? 01:38 -!- Elori [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:39 < tcmjr> to have all the main body on fat or the linux partition 01:39 < josh_> ah 01:39 < josh_> wouldn't be too much of a PITA 01:39 < josh_> to support *both* per se 01:39 < josh_> any more than supporting just FAT32 01:39 < tcmjr> I see 01:39 < josh_> but direct FAT32 support is slightly more of a pain than ext2 01:40 < josh_> because you have to worry about all the *nixy things that fat can't do 01:40 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- phil [n=phil@cl-829.ham-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf9f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- Lecx [i=lex@vil.kas.tut.fi] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- Fenix-Dark [n=scott@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- rbz [n=bizzle@adsl-155-180-39.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-eabfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- _ipxnc [i=sublime@kempinsky.students.intec.edu] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- Appelmoes [i=appel@83.98.167.2] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 -!- tittof [i=tittof@agewar.de] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:40 < imphasing> I don't see any reason to use fat32 for the linux partition 01:40 < Zol> =O 01:40 < Z_Man> oh geez 01:40 < Z_Man> not again... 01:40 < imphasing> besides, I have fine ext2 support on my windows box 01:40 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- Fenix-Dark [n=scott@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf9f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- Lecx [i=lex@vil.kas.tut.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- rbz [n=bizzle@adsl-155-180-39.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- phil [n=phil@cl-829.ham-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-eabfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- _ipxnc [i=sublime@kempinsky.students.intec.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- Appelmoes [i=appel@83.98.167.2] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- tittof [i=tittof@agewar.de] has joined #ipodlinux 01:41 < josh_> imphasing: no, the point is to have it all on one partition 01:41 < josh_> and I seriously doubt your ext2 support, unless it's read-only, which rather defeats the point. 01:41 < imphasing> it's read and write 01:41 < josh_> how? 01:41 < imphasing> ext3 too 01:41 < imphasing> there's a driver for it 01:41 < imphasing> I'll show you 01:42 < tcmjr> I used a soft one time that allowed reading the ext2/3, but never found something to support read/write 01:42 < josh_> yeah, explore2fs can do RO support 01:42 < Zol> imphasing: i'm very interested 01:42 < Zol> can you show me a link to this driver? 01:43 < imphasing> I'm looking for it... 01:43 < joecool> josh_: you mean RW 01:43 < tcmjr> josh_, that is exactly what I used 01:43 < imphasing> found it 01:43 < josh_> joecool: last I checked, RW support was seriously buggy. the one time I used it, it trashed my filesystem. 01:43 < imphasing> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd 01:45 < josh_> imphasing: cool! I had no idea that existed. 01:45 < imphasing> I've only written a few times with it, and it worked 01:45 < imphasing> but I only used it becuase my hard drive got trashed, and I wanted to back some stuff up with windows 01:45 < Zol> that is so cool 01:46 < Zol> josh_: should put that link in ipl.org 01:46 < imphasing> it's cool, but I wouldn't use it for everyday writing... 01:46 < Zol> if it works =p 01:46 < tcmjr> from someone on the ext2fsd forums , said something about this one 01:46 < tcmjr> http://fs-driver.org/ 01:46 < imphasing> who knoew what it could do 01:46 < tcmjr> but closed source 01:46 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 < imphasing> I can't install it again, cause I got rid of my windows 01:46 < imphasing> I might put it back on once I get my new 160gb drive 01:48 < Fenix-Dark> hi 01:48 < imphasing> hi 01:49 < Fenix-Dark> do u know if there have been any major updates for ipod linux? the blog and main page havent been updated much 01:49 < Fenix-Dark> recently 01:49 < josh_> haha 01:49 < josh_> "any major updates" 01:49 < imphasing> pz2 is a major update... 01:49 < josh_> hell yeah 01:49 < imphasing> lol 01:50 < josh_> look at the topic 01:50 < josh_> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=26439#26439 01:50 < Fenix-Dark> oh ok lol 01:50 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-155-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:50 < Fenix-Dark> wow, very awesome 01:51 < tcmjr> imphasing, does that ext2fsd work with ext3 too ? 01:51 < imphasing> yeah 01:51 < philip> read only it seems 01:51 < josh_> tcmjr: look at http://fs-driver.org/ - free but not OSS, ext2 and ext3 01:51 < josh_> read and write 01:51 < imphasing> my hd was ext3, and it worked 01:51 < Zol> do i have to restart to get it to mount my ipod ext2? 01:51 < philip> if so i guess they haven't updated the FAQ recently 01:51 -!- Prot [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:51 * tcmjr is thinking about trying it now :) 01:51 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray 01:52 < Fenix-Dark> man i cant wait 'till pz2 is out (and no, i'm not asking when its gonna be out since i dont wanna be kick/banned/frowned upon) 01:52 < josh_> Zol: for the one @ fs-driver.org - probably 01:52 < tcmjr> will it see the m 01:52 < tcmjr> will it see the ipod partition ? ^^ 01:52 < imphasing> tcmjr, knock yourself out, but don't ask me about it...it's been a while since I installed it 01:52 < imphasing> tcmjr, I don't remember how I did it so well 01:52 < tcmjr> Gonna try so :d 01:52 < imphasing> tcmjr, it should see it 01:52 < Zol> and imphasing? how do you see it? 01:53 < Zol> do you just explore normally? 01:53 < imphasing> yeah 01:53 < Zol> and it shows up as an extra disk? 01:53 < imphasing> yes 01:53 < imphasing> just like a normal partition 01:53 < Zol> excellent 01:53 < Zol> shall restart and verify 01:53 < josh_> " 01:53 < josh_> Windows creates a drive letter for the first partition of the considered media, but not for the remaining ones. (Windows NT4, 2000 and even XP behave the same way in that regard). 01:53 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:53 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:53 < imphasing> well, my disk was only 1 partition, so not sure how it will work on a pod 01:54 < imphasing> there's a program I used to asign drive letters to partitions though 01:54 < imphasing> I'll try to find it 01:55 < imphasing> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html 01:55 < imphasing> I think that's it... 01:55 < josh_> the quote is from the FAQ page on that site 01:55 < josh_> concerning removable media only 01:55 < imphasing> ah 01:57 < imphasing> josh_, are you having to change your sdl so it will work with your new pz2? 01:57 < josh_> only for Color + Nano 01:57 < josh_> which the original port didn't support at all 01:57 < imphasing> ah 01:58 < imphasing> josh_, let me know when you upload it to svn so I can test it out 01:58 < josh_> ok 01:58 -!- shocktech [n=ocdruma@cpe-67-49-178-146.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 < ubermensch> what's the largest hd for a nano? 01:59 < ubermensch> 6 gb? 01:59 < aegray> 4 01:59 < tcmjr> 4 01:59 < ubermensch> =/ 01:59 < joecool> 0 01:59 < joecool> nano doesn't have a hd dipshit 01:59 < josh_> haha 02:00 < ubermensch> settle down, just a question 02:00 < shocktech> weeewooo 02:00 < shocktech> has anyone beat doom? 02:00 < josh_> ubermensch: "dipshit" = sarcasm. 02:00 * tcmjr restarting to try the ext2 thing 02:00 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["The 7 Deadly Sins: good to the last drop!   [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 02:00 < joecool> ubermensch: that they answered wrong :P, it was more directed at aegray and tcmjr 02:01 -!- Bofia [n=Bofia@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 < ubermensch> hehe alright, hard to pick up sarcasm in written dialogue and at 3AM 02:01 < shocktech> YAEGRAY 02:02 < ubermensch> speakin of 02:02 < Bofia> huh 02:02 < ubermensch> tired as hell 02:02 < ubermensch> bedtime for me 02:03 < ubermensch> josh_, will you have the sdl problem resolved tomorrow? 02:03 < josh_> probably 02:03 < josh_> right now it looks like just a build system problem 02:03 < Bofia> huh 02:03 < ubermensch> cool, i'll give it another try then 02:04 < josh_> Bofia: ? 02:04 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 02:04 < Bofia> whatcha doing 02:04 < josh_> working on pz2, surprise 02:04 < tcmjr> the ext2-ifs don't seem to see my ipod ext partition 02:05 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 < josh_> 18:04 < tcmjr> the ext2-ifs don't seem to see my ipod ext partition 02:05 < Zol> dont work for me 02:05 < Zedle> weird, is it a known problem that video on the ipod just ends randomly 02:05 < josh_> Zedle: how far into the video? 02:05 < Zedle> 10-15 min 02:05 < josh_> yeah, some people have reported that 02:05 < Zedle> alright 02:07 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:08 < tcmjr> oh well, too bad 02:08 < Bofia> how do i check what version of kde i have 02:08 < josh_> what exactly does this have to do with iPodLinux? 02:08 < imphasing> type 'whatversionofkdedoihave?" at the terminal 02:09 < Bofia> uhh 02:09 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:09 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 < Bofia> doesnt seem to be anything else going on in this chat 02:09 < jedix> shh 02:10 < josh_> Would you go to a McDonalds and ask for Chinese food? 02:10 * imphasing sees a sign that says 'coders hard at work; steer right' 02:10 < josh_> Would you only do that if it was empty? 02:10 < aegray> yes 02:10 < jedix> josh_: on if in China. 02:10 < jedix> err only 02:10 < josh_> haha 02:10 < josh_> I mean, in America 02:11 < jedix> that's crazy talk. 02:11 -!- ianhopkins [i=ian@163.san-francisco-14rh16rt-15rh15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:11 < ianhopkins> Hi! 02:11 < imphasing> Hi! 02:11 < josh_> Hi! 02:11 < imphasing> I'm so exited! 02:11 < josh_> then type /quit 02:11 < imphasing> s/exited/excited/ 02:11 < josh_> if you're so exited 02:11 < imphasing> ... 02:12 < josh_> haha 02:12 < imphasing> I knew that 02:12 < joecool> ok.. i'm gonna do it 02:12 < joecool> so what do i need to build? 02:12 < joecool> for podzilla2 02:12 < ianhopkins> Can somebody help me fix an ipod? 02:12 < joecool> everything in the tools folder? 02:12 < imphasing> look on the forums 02:12 < josh_> joecool: not quite. 02:12 < josh_> what imphasing said 02:13 < josh_> and ~[wiki Podzilla] @ bottom 02:13 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [4253 bytes] 02:13 < imphasing> I have a prebuilt package with instructions 02:13 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:13 < joecool> josh_: wtf? they added it there 02:13 < joecool> fuckers.. i need to fix the docs up bad 02:13 < josh_> you mean "I" added it there :P 02:13 < imphasing> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 02:13 < joecool> josh_: well you shoulda made a new page up 02:13 * joecool slaps josh_ 02:13 < josh_> why? 02:13 < joecool> doesn't belong there right now 02:13 < spazzium_> you added pz2 to the main? 02:13 < joecool> its podzilla2, not podzilla 02:13 < josh_> why not? 02:14 < joecool> josh_: I just said why not 02:14 < spazzium_> it's not podzilla 02:14 < spazzium_> it's pz2 02:14 < josh_> okay 02:14 < joecool> it should be on Podzilla2 page 02:14 < joecool> i'll fix the docs up, don't worry 02:14 < joecool> once i build it i'll improve it 02:14 < ianhopkins> My ipod just keeps resetting itself over and over whenever i plug it into my pc. When it's not plugged in it just shows a folder and an exclamation point. I've restored it several times. 02:15 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:15 < josh_> joecool: why exactly is it a problem that the Podzilla page refers to the new stuff? 02:15 < joecool> ianhopkins: run the apple updater 02:15 < imphasing> joecool, http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 02:15 < joecool> josh_: because it doesn't belong there, its bad practice 02:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o coob ] by ChanServ 02:15 < aegray> haha 02:15 < imphasing> lol 02:16 < joecool> josh_: its a seperate program with very little in relation to podzilla 02:16 < kantlivelong> hmm 02:16 * imphasing runs 02:16 < joecool> coob: oh shit 02:16 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool ] by coob 02:16 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by coob [oh shit indeed] 02:16 < aegray> lol 02:16 < imphasing> coob, ncie 02:16 < imphasing> coob, thanks 02:16 < imphasing> :D 02:16 < ianhopkins> It won't stay in diskmode linf enough to update anything. 02:16 < davidc___> why did you kick him anyways? 02:16 < ianhopkins> *long 02:16 < coob> sortedbecause he's joecool? 02:17 < davidc___> eh 02:17 -!- jfa401 [n=umar_nas@toronto-HSE-ppp3971892.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:17 < davidc___> er, why _did_ we overwrite the podzilla docs?\ 02:17 < josh_> they're not overwritten 02:18 < coob> oh i don't care about the argument 02:18 < coob> it was just an excuse to kick him 02:18 < davidc___> I mean, why did we not put them into podzilla2? 02:18 < coob> josh+ maybe they should be on a Podzilla2 page 02:18 < Capso> Coob: You need an excuse to kick now? 02:18 -!- tcmjr [i=t7DS@201008048012.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["Quer pagar quanto ? quer pagar quanto ? quer pagar quanto ? nada ? Então seu script é o t7DS!   [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 02:18 < imphasing> Can I put the doc I wrote into the wiki? 02:18 -!- Capso was kicked from #ipodlinux by coob [nope] 02:18 < imphasing> for installing pz2 02:18 < josh_> well, IMO people going to [[Podzilla]] aren't going there for instructions on how to install it, and they're probably not n00bs 02:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joeco ] by davidc___ 02:18 -!- Capso [n=n1t3@unaffiliated/capso] has joined #iPodLinux 02:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool ] by coob 02:19 < josh_> imphasing: let's keep it on the forums for now, we're still getting everything sorted out wrt pz2 docs 02:19 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:19 < imphasing> ok 02:19 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 < joecool> thanks 02:19 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-163-242.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 02:19 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-163-242.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 -!- ianhopkins [i=ian@163.san-francisco-14rh16rt-15rh15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net] has quit [] 02:20 -!- jfa401 [n=umar_nas@toronto-HSE-ppp3971892.sympatico.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 02:20 < joecool> coob: so, how's life? 02:21 < jedix> life, the universe, and everything? 02:22 < joecool> jedix: whatever floats your boat 02:22 < Capso> Joecool: It seems yours is a poor delusional artifact, for if you checked /names ... you'd see he isn't here. 02:22 < joecool> Capso: i figured he wouldn't be, you see if i'm here.. he can't be here 02:23 < joecool> or I can't be here 02:23 < josh_> 18:21 < jedix> life, the universe, and everything? 02:23 < josh_> 18:22 < joecool> jedix: whatever floats your boat 02:23 < josh_> he didn't leave between those two statements... 02:23 < joecool> josh_: he knew i would be coming back.. i expect he left because of that 02:23 < joecool> we don't get along very well as you can see 02:24 < josh_> ah, sorry, thought you were talking about jedix 02:24 < joecool> hm.. 4G should be considered supported soon, its probably more stable then 1g/2g at the moment 02:24 < joecool> (3g too) 02:25 < Capso> Joecool: What really matters is that we get to see excessive bans placed on your ass for 0% of the Pay-Per-View prices for WWE matches. :) 02:25 < Capso> Joecool: Which benefits our amusement which benefits iPodLinux. 02:25 < Zedle> alright, i just co'ed pz2, do the menus show up on the 4g color yet? 02:25 < josh_> Zedle: it's not as usable as main PZ yet 02:25 < josh_> wait a few days 02:26 < Zedle> does it run on PC? 02:26 < josh_> yes 02:26 < Zedle> alright 02:26 < josh_> very well 02:26 < Zedle> i'll run it on my linux box 02:26 < josh_> but there are a few bugs wrt running it on the iPod 02:26 < Zedle> alright 02:26 * joecool groans 02:26 < josh_> joecool: what? 02:27 < joecool> josh_: ugh.. you didn't just add it, you took out the podzilla instructions lol 02:27 < josh_> no. I. did. not. 02:27 < joecool> its ok.. i'll revert and make a Podzilla2 page 02:27 < josh_> look at $TITLE (legacy) 02:27 < joecool> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla << 02:27 < josh_> there should be a link to that in bold red text at the top of the PZ2 pages 02:27 < josh_> sorry, forgot the link on that one 02:27 < joecool> ah, i see 02:27 < josh_> but I intentionally did *not* delete anything 02:28 < aegray> how do i create a rom filesystem? 02:28 < joecool> should it be Building_Podzilla2? (trying not to be too picky) 02:28 < josh_> aegray: romfs? cramfs? what? 02:28 < aegray> for gdb 02:28 < aegray> to load a filesystem 02:28 < josh_> joecool: really, they're both called "podzilla" 02:28 < josh_> and pz2 is going to be replacing pz0 eventually 02:28 < joecool> ok ok 02:28 < joecool> lol 02:28 < joecool> so if its pz0, shouldn't that be podzilla1? 02:29 < josh_> I'm calling it pz0 because the version numbers started with 0 02:29 < joecool> so, yeah then 02:29 < josh_> and this one is pz2 because it's the second incarnation of podzilla 02:29 < josh_> not the same numbering system :P 02:29 < josh_> really, the argument as to whether PZ0 or PZ2 docs should be filed under [[Blah'ing Podzilla]] is simply one of which one users are looking for more often 02:29 * imphasing thinks you should wait until pz2 is less buggy before writing a wiki page 02:30 < jedix> that's a brutal scratch on the ipod mini in the doom screenshots 02:30 < josh_> and also one of whether n00bs might be misled into installing something unstable, which I think is forestalled by the bold red text 02:31 < josh_> currently, on the heels of the pz2 announcement, it's my opinion that a lot of people are looking for pz2 information 02:31 < aegray> romfs? 02:31 < aegray> mkromfs 02:31 < aegray> right 02:31 < aegray> nm 02:31 < josh_> aegray: genromfs and mkcramfs respectively 02:31 < josh_> I think 02:31 < aegray> k 02:31 < jedix> bloody cramfs 02:31 < joecool> cheerio 02:31 < Bofia> lol 02:32 < Bofia> the podzilla just went psycho on my nano 02:32 < Bofia> its playing at 200% speed or soemthing 02:32 < Bofia> sounds funny 02:32 < joecool> that would be the self-destruct feature 02:32 < Bofia> lol 02:32 < Bofia> i like this 02:32 < Bofia> i think you should set an option for the speed of mp3 playback 02:32 < joecool> my PSP was doing that crap the other day with PSPRadio.. listening to a stream and all of a sudden it goes NUTS 02:33 < joecool> hmm.. this sucks.. building kde.. so building sdl-image is gonna take a bit 02:33 < joecool> josh_: btw.. aside from originally putting it in the wrong spot, nice job on the howto 02:33 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:33 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < josh_> joecool: thanks 02:34 < Z_Man> ok, i know that the 5g is pretty far off from being supported but i want to know something: is it possible to put ipl on the 5g with a little work w/o the lcd support? excuse me if you find my question to be annoying or bothering 02:34 -!- agentdcooper [n=agentdco@170.140.219.209.transedge.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < joecool> isn't there already initial 5g support? 02:34 < josh_> barely 02:34 < josh_> and non-usably 02:35 < joecool> heh 02:35 < Z_Man> what can it do sofar josh_ ?? lol... 02:35 < aegray> run a kernel 02:35 < joecool> it can cook a stirfry as well 02:36 < joecool> can't bake a cake yet though... 02:36 < Z_Man> i wish i could help you guys but i have little to no knowledge in this area 02:36 < Z_Man> darn. i'm in the mood for cake 02:36 < agentdcooper> does podzilla 2 work wit ipod nano? 02:36 < josh_> agentdcooper: once I fix this bug 02:36 < agentdcooper> just asking before i try 02:36 * spazzium_ goes to fix broken windows install... 02:36 < agentdcooper> nice 02:36 < imphasing> don't try 02:36 < imphasing> :D 02:36 < josh_> agentdcooper: not yet though, be patient 02:37 < agentdcooper> coo 02:37 < agentdcooper> josh_: u the main developer? 02:37 < josh_> * (diff) (hist) . . ! Building Podzilla; 18:37 . . Josh (Talk | block) (add big red warning) 02:37 < josh_> joecool: ^^^ 02:37 < joecool> lol 02:37 < Z_Man> aegray: when the 5g boots the kernel can you see the messages fly by? and that's it, no podzilla? 02:37 < josh_> Z_Man: more like "the messages crawl by" 02:37 < josh_> the LCD is extremely slow to update 02:37 < aegray> haven't put the display driver in podzilla yet 02:37 < josh_> and we need to find a better way before PZ will be usable 02:38 < josh_> agentdcooper: yes. 02:38 < Z_Man> oh ok, josh_ why is it soo slow? 02:38 < agentdcooper> josh_: cool man, glad 2 meet ya 02:38 < josh_> Z_Man: different architecture for LCD<->CPU connection 02:38 < agentdcooper> josh_: excellent work 02:38 < agentdcooper> ! 02:38 < josh_> thanks 02:38 < Z_Man> oh. well thanks guys for answering my questions 02:39 < josh_> I mainly did the core, modules have been done by pretty much everyone else 02:39 < Z_Man> could i build it for my 5g from cvs? 02:39 < joecool> josh_: are there specific X11 type builds.. or all they all assumed to be something like PHOTO? 02:39 < joecool> for podzilla2 02:39 < josh_> joecool: you compile it for the desktop then run 02:39 < josh_> ./podzilla -photo 02:39 < josh_> ./podzilla -video 02:39 < josh_> or whatever 02:39 < joecool> k 02:40 < josh_> plain ./podzilla sets up the screen like a 4g 02:40 < joecool> Z_Man: i have the latest kernel image up on http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/ipodlinux 02:40 < joecool> i also have the updater firmware which i'm going to pull down right now so i don't get sued :) 02:41 < joecool> oh i already did 02:41 < joecool> cool 02:44 < Z_Man> josh_: `./podzilla -video` for the video ipod? 02:44 < joecool> josh_: is that the kernel build system being used?? 02:44 < joecool> or just looks like it? 02:45 < josh_> just looks like it 02:45 < josh_> Z_Man: to emulate it on the desktop, sorry to disappoint :-0 02:45 < joecool> i was gonna say, that'd be fuckin awesome 02:45 < josh_> er :-) 02:45 < Z_Man> yeah i wasnt sure, i knew there wasnt any podzilla support for 5g yet... 02:46 < joecool> schemes/default.cs: No such file or directory 02:46 < joecool> No fonts list. Make one. 02:46 < josh_> make dev-env 02:46 < joecool> where can i get one? 02:46 < joecool> k 02:46 < josh_> there's one bundled with TTK, that'll make a symlink to it 02:46 < joecool> doh, i need to learn howto read 02:46 < kantlivelong> mmm 02:46 < Z_Man> one last question, i think, making the podzilla display driver: will that require the documentation or the reverse engineering of the BCM2722? 02:47 < kantlivelong> will eth over usb work soon? 02:47 < josh_> Z_Man: if the kernel can display it, podzilla can too 02:47 < Z_Man> podzilla display driver for 5g ipods 02:47 < josh_> if the kernel can't display it quickly, podzilla can't either 02:47 < Z_Man> josh_, yeah i was thinking that 02:47 < josh_> kantlivelong: be patient. be very patient. 02:48 < kantlivelong> josh_: yeah i know :P just wonderin.. sshd needs to be added badly lol 02:48 < joecool> courtc: your server down? 02:50 < josh_> wow, does ar only support 14 character filenames or something? 02:50 < josh_> because the names are getting truncated 02:50 < josh_> SDL_ipodvideo. 02:50 < josh_> and 02:50 < josh_> SDL_systhread. 02:50 < joecool> josh_: any way to build without locales? the toolchain i have doesn't like them 02:50 < josh_> (the o on the end gets lopped of, so libtool pukes) 02:51 < josh_> joecool: not currently (for the desktop) 02:51 < joecool> i'm talking for the ipod 02:51 < josh_> ah 02:52 < josh_> it only enables locale if __UCLIBC_HAS_LOCALE__ is defined 02:52 < joecool> i have full support for everything on the desktop, ffs.. its a gentoo system, all it does is build lol 02:52 < josh_> are you actually running into any problems, or just predicting them? 02:52 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 02:52 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 02:52 < joecool> josh_: i'm running into them 02:52 < josh_> pastebin? 02:52 < joecool> its only 5 lines or so 02:53 < josh_> okay, #ipodlinux.flood 02:54 -!- Bofia [n=Bofia@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:56 -!- skier1437 [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:57 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:58 < Zedle> weird 02:58 < Zedle> i got pz2 running in xwindows 02:59 < Zedle> but the arrow keys are unresponsive 02:59 < josh_> Zedle: you need to use iPod keys 02:59 < josh_> l, r for scroll left and right 02:59 < Zedle> alright 02:59 < josh_> m, w, f, d for menu/rewind/fastfwd/play resp. 03:00 < Zedle> :O 03:00 < Zedle> tetris isn't in there yet 03:00 < Zedle> lol 03:00 < josh_> correct 03:00 < josh_> nor is Steroids, clocks, or tuxchess 03:00 < josh_> those are more complex and weren't a simple copy-it-and-add-one-line port 03:00 < josh_> more like setup-makefile-add-a-few-lines :P 03:00 < Zedle> lol 03:01 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h6n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 < joecool> no playback support either it appears :P 03:01 < joecool> yet, i can wait 03:02 < imphasing> josh_, did you fix the sdl thing? 03:02 < josh_> imphasing: Almost. ar's giving me headaches. 03:02 < imphasing> mmm 03:02 < josh_> joecool: courtc's doing the mpd module 03:02 < Zedle> lot more color, nice 03:02 < joecool> yay, he's much more efficient then coob 03:02 < joecool> thank god 03:02 < imphasing> anything that gives you a headache will be suicide for me to try and grasp 03:03 < josh_> haha 03:03 < imphasing> unless you're hungover 03:03 < imphasing> then I might have a chance 03:03 < josh_> nope, I'm 14 03:03 < imphasing> well damn 03:03 < josh_> hm, seems to be ranlib that's truncating the names 03:03 < famous`sleep> lol so? 03:04 < josh_> famous`sleep: "so?" to what? 03:04 < famous`sleep> didn't stop me from havin fun 03:04 < josh_> oh 03:04 < famous`sleep> :P 03:04 * josh_ ignores famous`sleep (for my own benefit) 03:04 < josh_> :P 03:04 < spazzium_> heh 03:04 < famous`sleep> just don't make it a habit lol 03:04 < imphasing> famous`sleep, maybe he wants to keep his brain working 03:04 < famous`sleep> and no drugs those are bad 03:04 < imphasing> unlike some... 03:05 < imphasing> :D 03:05 < josh_> aha, 'twas a problem with my ranlib 03:05 < imphasing> wheee 03:05 -!- blake_ is now known as veteran 03:05 < Zedle> found a bug, not sure if you know of it or not 03:05 < josh_> veteran: ping 03:05 < spazzium_> Christ, I wish all 14 year old were as mature as Josh 03:05 < josh_> Zedle: what? 03:05 < imphasing> spaz 03:05 < spazzium_> yes? 03:05 < imphasing> spazzium, you're out of luck 03:05 < imphasing> :D 03:06 < Zedle> turn on Display Load Average and turn it off 03:06 < Zedle> and the box is still shown in the upper corner 03:06 < Zedle> leaves a mark 03:06 < josh_> okay, I'll look into that. 03:06 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:07 < imphasing> ok, it's time I started on this html parser 03:07 < Zedle> calculator also doesn't show up until you scroll through the buttons on the inverted theme 03:08 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 < BleuLlama> what'd i miss? 03:08 < BleuLlama> anything? 03:08 < imphasing> alot? 03:08 < aegray> !amalluelB iH 03:08 < BleuLlama> !yargea 03:08 < josh_> esrever` 03:08 < davidc___> `forward 03:08 < imphasing> aegray, and you hate unicode... 03:08 < josh_> haha 03:08 < imphasing> what's the difference between reverse and upsidedown? 03:08 < imphasing> :D 03:09 < imphasing> besides 90 degrees 03:09 < josh_> imphasing: you can't show upside down in a text terminal 03:09 < imphasing> yes you can 03:09 < imphasing> :D 03:09 < imphasing> in mine you can at least 03:09 < imphasing> ¿əəs 03:10 < josh_> okay, I saw 03:10 < josh_> s 03:10 < imphasing> lol 03:10 < josh_> where inverted Y is a black-on-white Y, not an upside-down one 03:10 < imphasing> ircii? 03:10 < josh_> irssi 03:10 < BleuLlama> i see ??s 03:10 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:11 < imphasing> funtime 03:11 < BleuLlama> COOB 03:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o coob ] by ChanServ 03:11 < imphasing> I wrote an essay upsidedown once 03:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool ] by coob 03:11 -!- joecool was kicked from #ipodlinux by coob [coob] 03:11 < imphasing> lol 03:11 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:11 < imphasing> he came in just to do that... 03:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool. ] by davidc___ 03:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool. ] by davidc___ 03:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*n=joecool@no-sources/joecool ] by davidc___ 03:12 < Ezther> my ipod nano won't turn on 03:12 < imphasing> josh_, is the new pz2 in svn yet? 03:12 < josh_> imphasing: try it, re-co ttk 03:12 < imphasing> ok 03:12 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h23n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:13 < Z_Man> hmmm. i tried making the new image for my 5g (i'm doing this for fun) and it gives me the apple ipod support url? is there anything special i must do? 03:13 -!- Bofia [n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 < josh_> Z_Man: um... wait until it's working? 03:14 < josh_> imphasing: yep, no more build errors now, at least! 03:14 < Z_Man> hm. i just wanted to see it boot. 03:14 < Zedle> reset all settings doesnt work in the settings menu 03:14 < Z_Man> oh well. i can wait 03:14 < imphasing> josh_, yay! 03:14 < imphasing> I'm svn'ing now 03:15 < Zedle> did you just put a new build up? 03:15 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-163-242.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 03:16 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-163-242.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 < imphasing> whee, no errors! 03:16 < imphasing> time to put it on the pod 03:17 < imphasing> ... 03:17 < imphasing> it just reboots when I hold the button down 03:17 < josh_> which button? 03:18 < imphasing> rewind, to get into linux 03:18 < josh_> hm, no idea 03:18 < josh_> but that's not pz2's fault 03:18 < Bofia> probably ur kernel is corrupted 03:18 < imphasing> I've had it happen before when I tried my own podzilla 03:19 < imphasing> wait..it's saying my battery is dead 03:19 < Zedle> weird 03:19 < imphasing> but I've been charging all morning 03:19 < imphasing> so it was just the battery 03:19 < Zedle> i just svn'ed and recomp'ed everything and when i tried to comp pz2 with IPOD=1 it hangs on the linking 03:20 < josh_> it doesn't hang 03:20 < josh_> it just takes a little while (several seconds) 03:20 < josh_> what OS? 03:20 < Zedle> Fedora Core 4 03:20 < Zedle> wanted to test it :) 03:20 < Zedle> lol 03:20 < imphasing> it works 03:20 < imphasing> no errors, warnings, anything 03:20 < imphasing> woohoo 03:20 < josh_> imphasing: !!! 03:20 < Zedle> i'll try again 03:20 < josh_> extras menu? 03:20 < imphasing> josh_, !!! 03:20 < imphasing> yes 03:20 < imphasing> all of them 03:20 < josh_> do they work? 03:20 < imphasing> games, all the extras 03:20 < imphasing> yes 03:20 < imphasing> calc 03:20 < imphasing> calender 03:21 < imphasing> it's all there 03:21 < imphasing> :D 03:21 < josh_> HAHA! W00T! 03:21 < spazzium_> SWEET 03:21 < josh_> now, may I ask... what type of iPod do you have? 03:21 < imphasing> woot indeed! 03:21 < imphasing> 3G 03:21 < spazzium_> pz2 bugfree? 03:21 < josh_> cool 03:21 < imphasing> nope 03:21 < josh_> imphasing: what bugs do you notice? 03:21 < Zedle> i'm going to test it on my 4g color once this link goes 03:21 < Zedle> lol 03:21 < spazzium_> josh_: I think I'll build it for my nano tonight and give you a test 03:21 < Zedle> there 03:21 < Zedle> got it 03:21 < agentdcooper> so whats the diff between podzilla 1 and 2? 03:22 < davidc___> everything 03:22 < josh_> agentdcooper: modularity, mostly 03:22 < BleuLlama> about 5 man=years 03:22 < spazzium_> `pz2 03:22 < agentdcooper> si 03:22 < spazzium_> `podzilla2 03:22 < josh_> it's not in there 03:22 < josh_> yet 03:22 < jedix> does the newest podzilla/kernel have auto-sleeping? 03:22 < spazzium_> no 03:22 < aegray> no 03:22 < josh_> no 03:22 < BleuLlama> no 03:22 < spazzium_> heh 03:23 < spazzium_> NO! 03:23 < jedix> no? 03:23 < iplbot> no 03:23 < Z_Man> lol 03:23 < jedix> cool. 03:23 < spazzium_> the bot hates you. 03:23 < josh_> no, the bot does what people tell it to do. 03:23 < jedix> I don't think it's limited to the bot.. 03:23 < josh_> haha 03:23 < Z_Man> no? 03:23 < josh_> imphasing: want to update your handy-tgz for pz2? 03:23 < jedix> at least you guys get a break, I have to be around me _all_ the time 03:23 < Z_Man> hmm... 03:23 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:23 < spazzium_> that's on my wishlist too though 03:24 < Z_Man> someone must be controling the bot 03:24 -!- court [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:24 -!- court is now known as courtc 03:24 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-251.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:24 < imphasing> josh_, doing that now 03:24 < josh_> EvilDude: pz2 works on the iPod... 03:25 < agentdcooper> i thought someone was saying that pz2 _doesnt_ work on the nano 03:25 < imphasing> should I move the topic to developement, or keep it in software? 03:25 < josh_> agentdcooper: I was. It should now. 03:25 < josh_> I just fixed it. 03:25 < spazzium_> agentdcooper: I'd love to find out. 03:25 < josh_> imphasing: put it in Software Development 03:25 < EvilDude> josh_: yeah i heard you fixed it :D 03:26 < EvilDude> but I cant play with it anyway because of 5g :( 03:26 < josh_> ah :-( 03:26 < josh_> don't you have a lower-gen iPod? 03:26 < agentdcooper> i can try it -i have an ipod nano 03:26 < imphasing> josh_, can't delete... 03:26 < josh_> imphasing: I'll move it for you. URL? 03:26 < famous`sleep> i have a nano but i'm busy 03:26 < EvilDude> I have a 3g :) I'll have to install it on there soon 03:26 < famous`sleep> ap physics hw 03:26 < imphasing> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 03:26 < EvilDude> but isn't building for iPod hard atm 03:26 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:26 < josh_> EvilDude: nope. see imphasing's forum post 03:27 < EvilDude> ah awesome 03:27 < agentdcooper> is there anything special that i need to do with pz2 then with pz1 - to install it on a nano? 03:27 < agentdcooper> i can try it right now =) 03:27 < agentdcooper> i got pz1 working like a charm currently 03:27 < josh_> agentdcooper: nah, spaccium_'s trying it 03:27 < agentdcooper> k 03:27 < josh_> too many testers spoil the results 03:27 < agentdcooper> =) 03:27 < agentdcooper> hehehe 03:27 < agentdcooper> i will await the results 03:28 < spazzium_> josh_: I'll build it in an hour when I get home 03:28 < imphasing> josh_, http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 03:29 < josh_> imphasing: moved 03:29 < EvilDude> thanks imphasing :) 03:29 < Zedle> ahhh, pz2 doesnt run on 4g color 03:30 < Zedle> ah well, worth a try :) 03:30 < courtc> haha, screw QT. 03:30 < EvilDude> but for now, I need to play Tales of Symphonia :) In a little bit I'll have to play around with pz2 03:30 < imphasing> EvilDude, no problem 03:30 < imphasing> ok, now I can start playing around with ttk 03:30 < imphasing> :D 03:30 < josh_> Zedle: how do you know? did you test it? with a version checked out less than fifteen minutes ago? I literally just fixed that. (I think.) 03:31 < spazzium_> hahahaha 03:31 < Zedle> i checked it out when imphasing did 03:31 < Zedle> it updated one library 03:31 < josh_> yeah 03:31 < josh_> did you then compile TTK again? 03:31 < Zedle> yep 03:31 < josh_> then make clean all IPOD=1 in the Podzilla source? 03:32 < Zedle> hmm 03:32 < Zedle> hold 03:32 < imphasing> josh_, what decides in what menu modules go in? 03:32 < josh_> imphasing: they call 03:32 < imphasing> josh_, I don't see it in the module file anywhere 03:32 < imphasing> ah 03:33 < josh_> pz_menu_add_action ("/Extras/Games/MyGame", new_mygame_window); 03:33 < josh_> or whatever, in the init function 03:33 < imphasing> ok, cool 03:35 < Zedle> josh_, it still showed a corrupted screen with the wrong resolution (at least thats how it looks) 03:35 < Zedle> let me try one mroe thing 03:35 < josh_> well if it showed anything at all you have my "fix" 03:35 < josh_> guess it wasn't much of a fix... 03:35 < Zedle> lol 03:35 < Zedle> it IS a 4g color 03:35 < josh_> were the colors screwed up at all? or was everything still white & black? 03:35 < imphasing> josh_, what controls the default handler for a file? 03:35 < Zedle> it was color 03:36 < Zedle> a ton of colors 03:36 < Zedle> all in lines on the screen 03:36 < Zedle> in what looks like a small box 03:36 < josh_> hmm 03:36 < josh_> ok 03:36 < josh_> I'll try to fix 03:36 < josh_> imphasing: pz_browser_set_handler() called by a module 03:36 < Zedle> i'd take a pic if i could find my digital camera 03:36 < jedix> I wish there was a reboot option in apple's firmware 03:36 < josh_> Zedle: if you can find a picture, that'd be helpful 03:36 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 03:37 < Zedle> i'll try using my cell phone cam, lol 03:38 < Zedle> ah, and you can see the text from rc behind the messed up colors :) 03:38 < Zedle> i got a pic, let me just grab it from the phone 03:39 < imphasing> cooool...ttk has icons! 03:39 < imphasing> :D 03:39 < josh_> "icon" = "hardcoded very simple image thing" 03:40 < BHSPitMonkey> w00t 03:40 < imphasing> still an icon 03:40 < imphasing> :D 03:40 < BHSPitMonkey> just got some brasso 03:40 < shocktech> I LOVE BRASSO 03:40 < shocktech> IT MAKES ME HAPPY 03:40 * imphasing has found the definition of 'exuberant' 03:40 < spazzium_> haha 03:40 < spazzium_> shocktech: used it to descratchify your ipod? 03:40 < shocktech> more like luber 03:40 < shocktech> no 03:41 < shocktech> i used it to bronze something 03:41 < shocktech> of mine. 03:41 < imphasing> josh_, is textarea the thing to use to display text and things? 03:41 < josh_> imphasing: textarea is like textviewer 03:41 < josh_> the scrolling box 03:41 < josh_> it's used only to display large amounts of text 03:41 < josh_> things like labels, you just call ttk_text() directly 03:41 < imphasing> so to display a file, you'd use textarea 03:42 < imphasing> or textviewer 03:42 < Zedle> http://www.zedle.com/ipl/4gcolorpz2.jpg 03:42 < josh_> imphasing: textarea, correct 03:42 < imphasing> Zedle, egads! 03:42 < spazzium_> Zedle: nice 03:42 < spazzium_> I wonder if that's what my nano will do 03:42 < Zedle> its not very high quality :P 03:42 < josh_> spazzium_: probably 03:43 < spazzium_> well you have an hour and a half to fix it :) 03:43 < Zedle> on the right of that image is text, from rc 03:43 < josh_> Zedle: thanks, I'll try to find the problem. if you can get a better photo, please do ;-) 03:43 < josh_> spazzium_: doing homework right now, sorry 03:43 < Zedle> ya, let me go find my d-cam 03:43 < spazzium_> Josh_ I have a 5mp that I'll use when I make the attempt 03:43 < josh_> spazzium_: cool 03:47 < imphasing> how can I just compile a single module? 03:47 < imphasing> without re-building podzilla 03:48 < josh_> put the Makefile, Module file, and .c file in a directory 03:48 < josh_> cd to that dir 03:48 < josh_> make -C /path/to/podzilla2/dir SUBDIRS=`pwd` 03:48 < imphasing> ok, thanks 03:48 < josh_> that'll just make the .o file 03:48 < josh_> er 03:48 < josh_> .so file (for desktop) 03:48 < josh_> if you want the .o file (for iPod) you need an IPOD=1 on there 03:49 < josh_> to make the POD, just do 03:49 < josh_> /path/to/podfile/dir/pod -c MODULENAME.pod Module MODULENAME.o 03:49 < Zedle> ya, i can't find my cam 03:50 < Zedle> just moved 03:50 < Zedle> no idea where i put it 03:51 -!- TX297 [n=asdf@ppp-69-148-85-235.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:51 -!- [1]whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 < TX297> Is there any way to update to the latest firmware while keeping iPl intact on a 4G? 03:54 -!- macpod [n=macpod@hc6524b7b.dhcp.vt.edu] has quit ["Flapjacks. 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I don't have gentoo fully working on this laptop yet) 03:58 < Zedle> apple updater.. 03:58 < DylanRE> OH 03:58 < DylanRE> got it 03:58 < TX297> edit sysinfo into thinking it's the latest version? 03:59 < imphasing> josh_, how does ttk pass command like arguments? 03:59 < imphasing> josh_, as in, clicking a text file sends the command, 'textview ' 04:00 < courtc> what? 04:00 < courtc> register a handler, click on a file in the browser 04:01 < courtc> pz 04:01 < imphasing> but how do I pass that filename into my app? 04:01 < imphasing> is it just a command line arg? 04:02 < imphasing> or does ttk have some grander way 04:02 < courtc> pz_browser_set_handler(is_certain_filetype, open_certain_file); 04:03 < courtc> where: TWindow *open_directory(const char *filename) 04:03 < courtc> err. 04:03 < courtc> where: TWindow *open_certain_file(const char *filename) 04:03 < imphasing> yes, but how do I get the name of the filename into a var? 04:03 < imphasing> s/filename/file/ 04:04 < courtc> it's right there, in 'filename' 04:04 < imphasing> ah, right 04:04 < imphasing> thanks 04:04 < courtc> mhmm 04:05 < imphasing> when I compile my module with 'IPOD=1', it hangs at 'building modules' 04:05 < imphasing> but without 'IPOD=1', it doesn't 04:06 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 04:06 < joecool> thats getting really annoying 04:08 -!- TX297 [n=asdf@ppp-69-148-85-235.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 04:10 -!- whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:14 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:15 < imphasing> what needs to go in a 'fonts list' for running podzilla in X11? 04:15 < joecool> imphasing: you're running podzilla2? 04:16 < imphasing> yeah 04:16 < joecool> make dev-env 04:16 < joecool> in the podzilla2 folder 04:16 < imphasing> coolio 04:18 < ubermensch> hey josh, i have a weird problem with pz2, not sure if it's been reported before 04:18 < ubermensch> actually, one sec, lemme make sure i'm not just dumb with exhaustion 04:19 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:19 < Zedle> it'd be nice if we could run SWF files on iPL 04:19 < DylanRE> yeah 04:20 < DylanRE> that would be sweet 04:20 < DylanRE> why dont you go make that work 04:20 < Zedle> i'll see if i can find some documentation 04:20 < Zedle> brb 04:20 * courtc did once. 04:20 < imphasing> it would also be practically impossible 04:20 < imphasing> with any decent speed 04:20 < courtc> didn't work very well. 04:20 < imphasing> really, you did? 04:20 < Bofia> and it doesnt even have a mouse 04:21 < imphasing> how did you translate all the vectors? 04:21 < courtc> I'll have to look at it again some time soon. 04:21 < shocktech> dugga dugga 04:21 < courtc> I used a nx flash lib. 04:21 < courtc> pretty simple. 04:21 < Zedle> and it worked? 04:22 < courtc> < courtc> didn't work very well. 04:22 < Zedle> oh 04:22 < Bofia> like 1 fps? 04:22 < imphasing> like, no fps 04:22 < courtc> well the offsets were wrong, so I didn't really gauge speed. 04:23 < courtc> shouldn't be too bad. 04:23 < imphasing> are you sure you aren't messing with people? 04:23 < Bofia> yeah but most flash games and stuff use the mouse 04:23 < imphasing> or are you talking about like, single frame swf? 04:23 < imphasing> swf images 04:23 < courtc> Yes, I'm sure. 04:24 < imphasing> neat-o 04:24 < Zedle> well, most flash games wouldn't work 04:24 < Zedle> or would have to be redone 04:24 < imphasing> were you just displaying a single frame image? 04:24 < courtc> most of anything flash wouldn't work. 04:24 < courtc> no. 04:25 < imphasing> actual animation? 04:26 < ubermensch> anyone have any idea why pz2's interface is invisible on my mini-ipod? 04:26 < courtc> ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/pixil/packages/ 04:27 < imphasing> nice... 04:27 < DylanRE> yeah 04:27 < DylanRE> your contrast. 04:27 < DylanRE> ha 04:27 < ubermensch> nah 04:27 < ubermensch> i can get to the contrast meter thing 04:28 < DylanRE> haha alright 04:28 < DylanRE> just nothing comes up at all? 04:28 < ubermensch> and all it does is uhh change the opacity of the interface's invisibleness 04:28 < DylanRE> ... uninstall reinstall 04:28 < courtc> ubermensch: no fonts? 04:28 < courtc> not schemes? 04:28 < ubermensch> it's a completely fresh install 04:29 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:29 < ubermensch> pretty positive they're there, i'm sure i remember copying them into their correct directories 04:29 < ubermensch> i'll check 04:29 < imphasing> look for default.cs 04:30 < imphasing> just copy the mono.cs to default.cs 04:30 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 < ubermensch> aight, i'll try it 04:30 < imphasing> in /mnt/ipod/usr/share/schemes 04:32 < ubermensch> same thing =( 04:33 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:35 < ubermensch> i'm using the kernel, sh bin, and busybox that is suggested at the bottom of http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 04:35 < ubermensch> are those still relevant/up to date? 04:35 < josh_> yeah 04:36 < josh_> you say it's just completely invisible? 04:36 < ubermensch> yup 04:36 < josh_> do you see *anything*? or just a blank screen? 04:36 < ubermensch> i can see a few garbled pixels on the right edge of the screen 04:36 < josh_> hmm 04:37 -!- DylanRE [n=DylanRos@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 04:37 < josh_> seems to be some GFX driver problems (first w/color, now w/this) 04:37 < josh_> it *has* been tested to work on both 3g & 4g though... 04:37 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:37 < imphasing> works great on 3G 04:38 < imphasing> :D 04:38 < ubermensch> bastard =) 04:39 < imphasing> I'm working on porting quake 4 to it now 04:39 < imphasing> I'm getting alot of choppy play though... 04:39 < josh_> hahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaha 04:39 < imphasing> the gun recoil isn't working so great either 04:39 < imphasing> the particle effects leave something to be desired as well 04:40 < imphasing> it's getting there though 04:40 < imphasing> it's getting there... 04:40 < imphasing> *whisty look* 04:40 < davidc___> [translation - he's copied it to the ipod] 04:40 < imphasing> haha 04:40 < ubermensch> hehehe 04:40 * spazzium_ kills his alt 04:40 < imphasing> I get this awesome dialog though 04:40 < davidc___> [he can just make out the letters "bad binary file format"] 04:40 -!- spazzium_ [i=Spazzium@scg070pc2.ics.purdue.edu] has quit [] 04:40 < imphasing> it says 'no defualt handler' 04:40 < ubermensch> hahah 04:40 -!- iNT0XiC8D [i=iNT0XiC8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:41 < BleuLlama> time to port Bochs or DosBox to ipl 04:41 < imphasing> dosbox is simpler 04:41 < courtc> duke3d 04:41 < BleuLlama> Stunts / 4D sports driving 04:41 < courtc> wtf is 4d? 04:42 < BleuLlama> it's what the game was calle 04:42 < BleuLlama> d 04:42 < courtc> oh. 04:42 < imphasing> can we port 3ds max 7 over? 04:42 < BleuLlama> X-Com 04:42 < imphasing> I could do 3D modeling on the road! 04:42 < josh_> haha 04:42 < josh_> a PDF viewer might actually be useful 04:42 < josh_> and then we could port iTeX :P 04:42 < imphasing> isn't a pdf just a glorified jpeg? 04:43 < josh_> imphasing: er... no. 04:43 < BleuLlama> no 04:43 < imphasing> ah 04:43 < josh_> it's more of a cut-down Postscript file 04:43 < imphasing> AH 04:43 < imphasing> vector everything? 04:43 < BleuLlama> vector or bitmap 04:43 < BleuLlama> like postscript 04:43 < imphasing> mmm 04:44 < BleuLlama> that's what we need. a postscript interpreter. we can right games and modules in postscript! 04:44 < courtc> ahh! 04:44 < imphasing> lol 04:44 < imphasing> I wouldn't mind perl... 04:44 < imphasing> I was going to start porting it, but I got sidetracked 04:44 < imphasing> it seems overly complex too... 04:45 < courtc> pawn #1 04:45 < imphasing> ..? 04:45 < josh_> courtc: *small 04:46 < courtc> pawn 04:46 < courtc> `pawn 04:46 < josh_> wait, was it a name change Small->Pawn or Small<-Pawn? 04:46 < iplbot> pawn is a simple, typeless, 32-bit extension language with a C-like syntax. A pawn "source" program is compiled to a binary file for optimal execution speed. The pawn compiler outputs P-code (or bytecode) that subsequently runs on an abstract machine. Execution speed, stability, simplicity and a small footprint were essential design criteria for both the language and the abstract machine. [from courtc] 04:46 < courtc> Small->pawm 04:46 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:46 < josh_> ah, sorry 04:47 < DylanRE> ugh computer froze 04:47 < courtc> but spelled right. 04:47 < imphasing> ah 04:47 < imphasing> how about a brainfuck interpreter for ipod? 04:47 < imphasing> that would be useful... 04:47 < DylanRE> brainfuck 04:47 < DylanRE> ha 04:48 < BleuLlama> Intercal #1 04:48 < DylanRE> i seriously didnt think anyone actually used brainfuck 04:48 < BleuLlama> no one does 04:48 < courtc> whitespace. 04:48 < DylanRE> hahaha 04:49 < imphasing> it's a stupid, pointless lang 04:49 < BleuLlama> it's like all of those novelty languages. people do simple things in them for fun 04:49 < kantlivelong> http://e.thedivergency.com/post/1/83 04:49 < kantlivelong> lol 04:49 < imphasing> serves no purpose but to fuck with people 04:49 < BleuLlama> nothing useful at all 04:49 < BleuLlama> exactly 04:49 < DylanRE> haha 04:49 < courtc> just wait, xml buffs will love cxml, and I'll laugh at them. 04:49 < DylanRE> i had forgotten what it really was, i just remember it was dumb 04:49 < DylanRE> and i just looked it up 04:49 < DylanRE> and realized how extremely dumb it really is 04:49 < imphasing> it's only got 4 symbols in it 04:49 < courtc> BBbRrRAaAAaAKkkK 04:50 < DylanRE> 8 04:50 < BleuLlama> :D 04:50 < DylanRE> not 4 04:50 < imphasing> what's this 'cxml'? 04:50 < imphasing> ah, 8 04:50 < DylanRE> < > * - . , [ ] 04:51 < imphasing> BleuLlama, that 'alpaca' os is pretty nifty looking... 04:51 < BleuLlama> yeah. i need to work on that again 04:51 < BleuLlama> actually get the GUI to work 04:51 < imphasing> there's a gui? 04:51 < imphasing> with 1k of ram? 04:51 < courtc> imphasing: a imitation of c in xml. wordy, ugly, and hard to use. 04:51 < BleuLlama> i got the windows moving around a little, but nothing major 04:51 < imphasing> courtc, ah..sounds fun 04:51 < BleuLlama> raise/lower, etc 04:51 < BleuLlama> yes 04:51 < imphasing> BleuLlama, written in asm? 04:51 < BleuLlama> yep 04:52 < imphasing> BleuLlama, have you seen menuetOS? 04:52 < DylanRE> i wish i knew asm 04:52 < imphasing> BleuLlama, it's pretty neat 04:52 < BleuLlama> the OS allowed for 4 tasks to multitask, one of the tasks was the gui 04:52 < BleuLlama> nope. 04:52 < joecool> hmm.. built podzilla2, put it on ipod.. i see 3 black balls, is that normal? 04:52 * BleuLlama googles 04:52 < imphasing> joecool, sure 04:52 < josh_> joecool: yes. that means "loading". 04:52 < josh_> wait a few seconds 04:53 < joecool> k 04:53 < imphasing> BleuLlama, menuetOS is writtin in 32 bit asm though 04:53 < joecool> drive shuts off.. nothing 04:53 < joecool> if its loading.. its takin a damn long time 04:53 < josh_> joecool: what gen iPod? 04:54 < joecool> 4g 04:54 < joecool> greyscale 04:54 < josh_> hmm, I have a 4g, and it works fine for me 04:54 < imphasing> did you use MY podzilla? 04:54 < josh_> did you copy schemes, fonts, modules, podzilla? 04:54 < joecool> yeah 04:54 < josh_> imphasing: nope, SVN built one. 04:54 < imphasing> it's guarunteed to work 04:54 < BleuLlama> yeah. neat. looks pretty interesting, but there's no real reason to code in asm for a desktop system these days. i bet they could have gotten similar file sizes with a good optimizer/c compiler 04:54 < imphasing> :D 04:54 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:54 < imphasing> BleuLlama, yeah, they probably could have... 04:54 < BleuLlama> gonna have to look into that one more in-depth though. thanks for the pointer. :D 04:54 < imphasing> BleuLlama, no problem 04:55 < josh_> BleuLlama: char *ptr; /* here's another - be wary of using it though, it's uninitialized */ 04:55 < BleuLlama> hrm 04:55 < courtc> heh 04:55 < BleuLlama> ptr = NULL; 04:55 < BleuLlama> HAH! THWARTED YOU! 04:55 < courtc> void (* fp)(); 04:55 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 04:56 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:57 < imphasing> Does anyone know any good books about kernel programming, and other low level thingies? 04:57 < DylanRE> bigcocksex.com had some great kernel material. 04:57 < DylanRE> dont click. 04:57 < DylanRE> ha 04:58 < imphasing> lemonparty.org I know has some good resources 04:58 < DylanRE> 04:58 < courtc> Yes, "Kernel Programming and Other Low-level Thingies" 04:58 < imphasing> but that's all I've seen 04:58 < DylanRE> tubgirl.com,, too 04:58 < imphasing> by Hardcode McGee? 04:58 < DylanRE> and google goatse 04:58 < josh_> (hint: if you don't know a troll when you see one, don't click these links) 04:58 < josh_> or rather, a joke-troll 04:58 < imphasing> yes, listen to josh_ 04:58 < DylanRE> hahaha 05:00 < imphasing> ew, my potpie has peas... 05:01 < joecool> josh_; well.. i'm a step further.. now i get an error 05:01 < joecool> mountpod.err kinda BS 05:01 < BleuLlama> imphasing: http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/Software/alpaca/ the pics on there are the background and three selectable windows 05:01 < josh_> joecool: can you give the full text of the error? 05:02 < joecool> well theres alot of them as i hit OK on all of them 05:02 < imphasing> BleuLlama, dang, that's pretty nice looking... 05:02 < josh_> joecool: just the first one 05:02 < BleuLlama> i'm at a point now where, since it's been 2 years since i touched it, i'll bne starting from scratch if i touch it again. 05:02 < DylanRE> im about to check out menuelOS 05:02 < DylanRE> if dillo will stop freezing 05:02 < joecool> josh_: well i passed it.. i'll give you another 05:02 < josh_> cool 05:02 < josh_> doesn't really matter 05:02 < josh_> I meant - first one you see right now 05:02 < BleuLlama> the goal was to keep the core OS in the first 1k of rom (task switching, user input, messaging ,etc. 05:03 < imphasing> BleuLlama, what kind of binary files can it run? 05:03 < BleuLlama> whatever's compiled in with it 05:03 < BleuLlama> heh 05:03 < imphasing> ah 05:03 < josh_> sounds like podzilla syndrome! 05:03 < BleuLlama> there's not really any place to load anything in from on Pac-Man hardware 05:03 < joecool> module dialer.pod (#5): mount: exit 15766196 - some sort of error, check mountpod.err 05:03 < BleuLlama> no devices. 05:03 < joecool> josh_^^ 05:04 < imphasing> true... 05:04 < joecool> i'll give you that file in a sec 05:04 < DylanRE> can anyone else not reach menuetos.org? 05:04 < BleuLlama> although, i'd love to make a floppy interface for it. that'd rock 05:04 < josh_> joecool: ok, reboot, enter diskmode, send contents of that file 05:04 < joecool> yeah 05:04 < Zol> josh_: will i need a windows installer to install pz2? 05:04 < josh_> (it'll be in the root of the Linux partition) 05:04 < josh_> Zol: eventually 05:04 < josh_> don't try it now 05:05 < DylanRE> okay guys, sense menuetos.org isnt working for me, and im just curious about the topic, have you heard of any other desktop os's written in asm? 05:05 < Zol> =p 05:05 < Zol> if i boot in linux can you ssh and install it? :pp 05:05 < joecool> josh_: no file exists 05:05 < joecool> by that name 05:05 < josh_> joecool: did you put minix-sh on the iPod? 05:06 < joecool> no, should I have? 05:06 < josh_> yes 05:06 < josh_> I thought it mentioned that on [[Podzilla]]... 05:06 < rbz> hmmm 05:06 < joecool> josh_: no more sash? 05:06 < josh_> yep, "Get minix sh (http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/minix_sh), copy it to /bin/sh on your iPod, chmod +x. " 05:06 < rbz> hows pz2 comin? 05:06 < josh_> joecool: you can put sash as /bin/sash if you want the input functionality 05:07 < josh_> minix_sh supports redirection, which is necessary for the error message to be written ;-) 05:07 < imphasing> rbz, fine 05:07 < imphasing> rbz, it "works" now 05:07 < rbz> are there binaries out for it? 05:07 -!- whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:08 < rbz> and will it work on my nano? ;) 05:08 < josh_> rbz: try it, but it's been reported that the new LCD stuff doesn't work. 05:08 < Zol> josh_: will it work on video now? i heard something about video support 05:08 < Zol> in your changes 05:08 < rbz> the kernel with podfs wont screw with what i have though, right? 05:09 < josh_> Zol: oh no, that's just ttk knowing what to do with the video's screen size 05:09 < josh_> rbz: no 05:09 < spazzium> josh_ gonna start compiling 05:09 < josh_> it won't - it's like a normal nightly build but with podfs 05:09 < rbz> so its included in the latest nightly? 05:09 < josh_> no 05:09 < josh_> it's not 05:09 < josh_> it's like a normal nightly build but with podfs 05:09 < josh_> you need the three files linked on ~[wiki podzilla] 05:09 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [4253 bytes] 05:10 < Zol> its located in a secret place and they wont tell me where it is 05:10 < Zol> probably because i'll ask a million questions 05:10 < Zol> and kill hours of their time 05:10 < josh_> Zol: hmm? 05:10 < Zol> trying to help me out 05:10 < Zol> so i'm okay 05:10 < josh_> what's "located in a secret place"? 05:10 < Zol> pz2 =p 05:10 < josh_> ~[wiki podzilla] 05:10 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [4253 bytes] 05:10 < josh_> see links @ bottom 05:10 < josh_> including the "svn co ..." lines 05:11 < josh_> and also see the post in the Software Development forum 05:11 < josh_> it's not a secret any more 05:11 < joecool> josh_: well.. if i hit all the OK's it does fire podzilla up.. just with nothing in extras 05:11 < josh_> joecool: yeah 05:11 < imphasing> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 05:11 < imphasing> that link has prebuilt binaries, and instructions 05:11 < josh_> put minix-sh in, then tell me what's in mountpod.err 05:12 < rbz> there we go 05:12 < joecool> josh_: all there is.. 05:12 < joecool> mount: Mounting /usr/share/podzilla/modules/wumpus.pod on /tmp/modules/18 failed: No such device 05:12 < rbz> thx josh and imphasing 05:12 < rbz> trying it now. :D 05:12 < DylanRE> imphasing: was it you talking about menuet? 05:12 < Zol> wow josh_: that looks shit easy 05:12 < joecool> josh_: should i mkdir /tmp/modules 05:12 < josh_> joecool: that would be the loop device, I think, or maybe podfs. 05:12 < josh_> no, it should be made 05:12 < imphasing> DylanRE, yes 05:12 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:13 < josh_> it wouldn't have been that error if it was having trouble mkdir'ing 05:13 < joecool> josh_: what needs to go in /etc/rc then? 05:13 < josh_> joecool: are you using the kernel? 05:13 < DylanRE> imphasing: is there no longer a 32bit version available? (if you dont know, it's all good) 05:13 < josh_> (the kernel for pz2 linked on the [[Podzilla]] page) 05:13 < BHSPitLappy> has anyone brasso'd a nano? 05:13 < josh_> it has a few things in it that pz2 needs 05:13 < joecool> josh_: no.. i use my own built.. if theres a patch for it, please link me 05:13 < josh_> that should be getting into nightlies as soon as leachbj gets back 05:13 < josh_> ok, sure 05:13 < josh_> 1 sec 05:14 < spazzium> BHSPitLappy: no I have an invisbleshield on mine 05:14 < spazzium> no need for brasso 05:14 < Zol> josh_: can i use the windows installer to add and makefw-3 the kernel? 05:14 < josh_> joecool: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/podfs-kernel.diff 05:14 < josh_> Zol: no. 05:14 < josh_> you need linux for now. 05:14 < BHSPitLappy> anyone have an actual reply to me 05:14 < joecool> josh_: k 05:14 < josh_> once it gets into the nightlies, you should be able to use the installer. 05:14 < joecool> btw, has anyone used brasso? 05:14 < imphasing> DylanRE, I havn't checked the page in a bit, but it looks like he only has a 64bit vversion up right now... 05:14 < Zol> k 05:14 < joecool> on their ipod? 05:14 < josh_> joecool: that patches the file arch/armnommu/def-configs/ipod, not .config - you'll need to copy it to .config and make oldconfig. 05:15 < BHSPitLappy> joecool: when are you going to stop doing that? 05:15 < joecool> josh_: k, i can handle it (i was a patchset maintainer in a former life) 05:15 < joecool> BHSPitLappy: doing what? 05:15 < DylanRE> imphasing: thanks. i'll run it on my friend's 64 XD 05:15 < imphasing> DylanRE, lol, ok 05:16 < BHSPitLappy> all i've seen you do is repeat people's name and now you're imitating me :p 05:17 < Zol> josh_: you guys got any interview requests yet from newspapers? ;) 05:17 < BHSPitLappy> lol 05:17 < josh_> haha, not yet 05:17 < josh_> though we're about due for a /.ing - it's been almost a year! :P 05:17 < Zol> really? 05:17 < Zol> i thought maybe 10 hours 05:18 < imphasing> josh_, any idea why my compiler freezes when I try to compile my module with the 'IPOD=1' flag? 05:18 < Zol> :p 05:18 < josh_> imphasing: nope, no idea. using 3.4.3? being patient? being very patient? 05:19 < imphasing> I left it for about 2 minutes 05:19 < imphasing> but it's only a 2-3k source file 05:19 < josh_> hm, odd 05:19 < josh_> using the newest toolchain? 05:19 < imphasing> yeah 05:19 < josh_> hm, no idea then 05:20 < josh_> imphasing: I stickied your thread. 05:21 < rbz> imphasing, do i need the -3 for my nano? i dont think the make_fw you provide in your package has that option 05:21 < Zol> josh, i know this is sort of question you guys hate, but, when and what percentage completion? =p 05:21 -!- Capso [n=n1t3@unaffiliated/capso] has left #iPodLinux ["Boring."] 05:21 < imphasing> josh_, cool, thanks 05:21 < josh_> Zol: A significant amount. 05:21 < imphasing> rbz, I'm not sure about what to do with a nano 05:21 < Zol> is that to ETA, or percentage completed? =p 05:21 < josh_> both 05:21 < imphasing> rbz, it's the latest make_fw though 05:21 < Zol> lol 05:21 < rbz> so it should accept the -3? 05:22 < rbz> or should i do the -g nano? 05:22 < rbz> i think its -g 05:22 < rbz> ... 05:23 < joecool> its -g 05:23 < joecool> they got rid of -3 05:23 < rbz> and add nano after it, right? 05:23 < imphasing> ah 05:23 < josh_> joecool: they didn't get rid of it, they just deprecated it 05:23 < josh_> it still should work 05:23 < joecool> just noone bothered to update the documentation (i think i was the last one to do it, and i don't feel like doing it again) 05:24 < spazzium> I see... so pod modules operate like their own filesystem? 05:24 < rbz> yah, it still says that its patch_fw 05:24 < josh_> spazzium: yes 05:24 < josh_> rbz: yeah, haha 05:24 < ubermensch> does pz2 print any diagnostic info to the console? 05:24 < spazzium> so this is a replacment for old userland stuff correct? 05:24 < ubermensch> like would podzilla > log.txt help me figure out what is wrong with my screen? 05:25 < imphasing> spazzium, right 05:25 < BleuLlama> damn you. now i want to hack z80 again. 05:25 < imphasing> BleuLlama, haha, get on that then 05:25 < imphasing> BleuLlama, what kind of computer is that? 05:25 -!- [1]whitay [n=whitay@203-206-40-104.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:25 < imphasing> BleuLlama, you using an old pac-man box? 05:25 < BleuLlama> Pac-Man arcade hardware 05:25 < rbz> hmmm 05:25 < rbz> it didnt like -g 05:25 < imphasing> BleuLlama, can it play pacman? 05:26 < imphasing> :D 05:26 < BleuLlama> yeah. MAME for testing, then real hardware for final testing 05:26 < BleuLlama> um. yeah. just drop pac-man roms on it 05:26 < joecool> rbz: read the makefile.. they documented it in there i believe.. either that or a README or somethin in the folder 05:26 < spazzium> josh_: wth is ttkzilla? 05:26 < imphasing> but not from alpaca though 05:26 < joecool> i remember seeing it 05:26 < BleuLlama> no. alpaca is its own thing 05:26 < rbz> joecool, i am using imphasing's package 05:26 < imphasing> BleuLlama, how do you get it into the ram? 05:27 < BleuLlama> ram? no. 05:27 < imphasing> BleuLlama, did you make some sort of cable or soemthing? 05:27 < imphasing> I mean rom 05:27 < BleuLlama> you burn new program roms, drop them onto the board 05:27 < imphasing> ah.. 05:27 < BleuLlama> using an eprom burner 05:27 < imphasing> fun... 05:27 * BleuLlama watches an umlaut-llama move around a pac-man screen 05:27 < agentdcooper> rbz i have a nano - had to download CVS version of ipod bootloader and then use -3 05:28 < agentdcooper> to get podzilla and linux to boot on the ipod nano 05:29 < courtc> re: -g documentation. I'm a programmer, not a documenter, if you can't use -h or read the usage, I don't think you should be using it anyway. 05:29 < agentdcooper> i ran the command "./make_fw -3 -o my_sw.bin -l uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.bin -i apple_os.bin loader.bin" 05:30 < rbz> courtc, the usage is old and outdated. 05:30 < rbz> im installing podzilla2 btw 05:30 < courtc> rbz: no, no it isn't. 05:31 < agentdcooper> oh ic 05:31 < agentdcooper> totally different beast 05:32 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:33 < josh_> 21:26 < spazzium> josh_: wth is ttkzilla? 05:33 < josh_> spazzium: ttkzilla = a non-modular port of podzilla to TTK 05:34 < ubermensch> which kernel modules should i use when using the kernel image linked to at http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla? 05:34 < ubermensch> 2.4.24-ipod4 05:34 < ubermensch> ? 05:34 < josh_> sure, use those 05:35 < imphasing> josh_, I'm getting a segmentation fault when I try to run pz2 in x11.. 05:35 < imphasing> after 2 errors, it closes 05:35 < imphasing> and tells me there's a segmentation fault 05:35 < imphasing> it -does- open though 05:35 < DylanRE> lack of motivation = much more masturbation 05:35 < DylanRE> errr 05:35 < DylanRE> wrong channel 05:35 < DylanRE> ... 05:35 < DylanRE> *walks aways slowly* 05:36 < josh_> DylanRE: #damnsmalllinux? 05:36 < courtc> wadsdsaasdasdad6asd 05:36 < josh_> imphasing: can you make clean all CFLAGS=-g, gdb podzilla, when it crashes type "bt" (w/o quotes) and paste to #ipodlinux.flood 05:36 < courtc> sorry, damn ssh. 05:37 < rbz> alright, moment of truth on podzilla2 + nano... 05:37 < DylanRE> josh_ that's not where i meant to send it 05:37 < DylanRE> but i'm in there 05:37 < DylanRE> that was supposed to go in a gaim window 05:37 < DylanRE> haha 05:37 < josh_> ah haha 05:37 < josh_> rbz: any luck? 05:38 < josh_> three dots = good sign, btw 05:39 < rbz> stuck at apple = bad sign 05:39 < rbz> :( 05:39 < josh_> um, yeah 05:39 < josh_> that's not pz2's fault though 05:39 < josh_> do you have a working iPL with pz0? 05:39 < rbz> i did 05:40 < rbz> i still have everything on my linuxbox 05:40 < agentdcooper> my ipod nano would stick at apple when the bootloader was hosed, just had to fix bootloader... 05:40 < agentdcooper> just fyi =) 05:40 < rbz> so, do i just mount it? 05:40 < rbz> its not in disk mode 05:40 < josh_> put it in disk mode 05:41 < josh_> hold menu + center, right after apple shows up again hold play + center 05:41 < rbz> its probably because i used imphasing's bootloader 05:41 < ubermensch> is pz2 capable of playing mp3s yet? 05:42 < josh_> ubermensch: not yet 05:42 < imphasing> josh_, how do I get gdb to exec podzilla? 05:42 < ubermensch> ok, didn't think so 05:42 < josh_> imphasing: type "r" and press enter 05:43 < imphasing> it doesn't open it.. 05:43 < josh_> okay 05:43 < josh_> type 05:43 < imphasing> No executable file specified. 05:43 < josh_> % gdb podzilla 05:43 < josh_> (gdb) r 05:43 < imphasing> I did "r podzilla" 05:43 < josh_> no 05:43 < imphasing> ah... 05:43 < imphasing> ok 05:43 < josh_> you have to run gdb with podzilla as an argument 05:43 < josh_> then just do r 05:43 < imphasing> I got it 05:44 < imphasing> it's in .flood 05:44 < DylanRE> okay, this is probably the dumbest question to be asking after sitting in here for aan hour and a half but... 05:44 < DylanRE> there's a pz2? 05:44 < DylanRE> i havent been to ipl.org in a week or so 05:45 < BleuLlama> yes. 05:45 < josh_> look at the last bit of the topi 05:45 < BleuLlama> that is the dumbest question 05:45 < josh_> *topic 05:46 < davidc___> yeah... if you missed that announcement, you've missed all the insanely cool tings we've released, 05:46 < rbz> like? :D 05:46 < spazzium> "released" 05:46 < spazzium> that's a relative term 05:46 < DylanRE> i've been busy writing html-based applications.... (boring) 05:46 < josh_> Transcript of the meeting: 05:46 < josh_> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=26439#26439 05:49 < rbz> hmmm 05:50 < rbz> now it wont even boot into linux, but just goes straight into apple fw 05:50 < DylanRE> you broke it 05:50 < DylanRE> nice job. 05:51 < rbz> :/ 05:51 < BleuLlama> i had that problem once 05:51 < imphasing> yay, I can test modules from my comp now! 05:51 < BleuLlama> after i uninstalled linux 05:51 < BleuLlama> i fixed it by not doing that again 05:51 < josh_> 05:51 < josh_> er 05:51 < josh_> Fix bug: SEGV if no Module file. 05:51 < josh_> I don't know what's happened to csie's emails... 05:52 < josh_> courtc: can you check to make sure svn@get-linux.org is still on the notifications list? 05:52 < imphasing> matrix runs fast on X11... 05:52 < imphasing> ...my screen just blew up 05:52 < imphasing> crap 05:53 < josh_> hm? 05:53 < josh_> literally or figuratively? 05:53 < josh_> and if figuratively, what actually happened? 05:53 < Zol> lol 05:53 < imphasing> literaly 05:53 < rbz> hmm. is there a special loader that i need for the nano? 05:53 < josh_> imphasing: on iPod or PC? 05:53 < Zol> wow 05:54 < imphasing> josh_, pc 05:54 < imphasing> :D 05:54 < Zol> that hurts man 05:54 < josh_> imphasing: how are you typing then? 05:54 < josh_> er, IRCing 05:54 < imphasing> 2 screens 05:54 < imphasing> !!! 05:54 < imphasing> :D 05:54 < Zol> :P 05:54 < josh_> is it a problem with podzilla2 or anything? 05:54 < Zol> he must have sustained lacerations to the face from the plastic shards! 05:54 < imphasing> it made a popping sound, and it lost lots of color 05:54 < josh_> oh 05:54 < Zol> quick, contact a hospi....oh 05:54 < imphasing> it might have had to do with podzilla, but I don't know 05:54 < imphasing> probably not 05:54 < josh_> haha, I seriously doubt it :P 05:55 < josh_> CRT or LCD? 05:55 < imphasing> crt 05:55 < imphasing> it seems fine now... 05:55 < imphasing> weird 05:55 < imphasing> it blew way out of porportion, thyen came backj 05:55 < imphasing> interesting 05:55 < BleuLlama> probably arced inside the case. i've had that problem. too much dust in the monitor 05:55 < imphasing> I once brought a hard drive magnet up to my monitor 05:56 < imphasing> made these huge line 05:56 < courtc> josh_: still on there. 05:56 < imphasing> and I fiexed it by putting two big magnets on a drill, and pointing it at the monitor 05:56 < imphasing> all the lines were gone 05:56 < imphasing> it was cool 05:56 < josh_> courtc: hmm.. no idea why iPL-SVN's suddenly stopped working then... 05:57 < Zol> wow 06:00 < spazzium> it was barely working just now when I pulled stuff down 06:00 < josh_> spazzium: hmm? 06:01 < spazzium> it took a LONG time to pull the tools down 06:01 < josh_> that has nothing to do with the bot iPL-SVN that's supposed to tell us whenever a change is made 06:01 < spazzium> oh 06:03 < courtc> anyone see that last change in cvs? I found a bug in mpdc while porting, it was real retarded. 06:03 < josh_> saw it 06:03 -!- easthero [n=edc@58.20.32.2] has joined #ipodlinux 06:03 < imphasing> how is mpdc going? 06:05 < Zol> josh_: where do you find the time to code all this? =p 06:05 < josh_> Zol: Somehow, I do. 06:05 < imphasing> josh_, you've got homework and crap too... 06:06 < josh_> imphasing: not so much that there's no time for iPL 06:06 < imphasing> josh_, how did you learn all this stuff by the time you were 14? 06:06 < josh_> imphasing: self-taught. 06:06 < imphasing> josh_, me too, but I don't know hald of what you know 06:07 < Zol> do you do anything else? 06:07 < josh_> Zol: yes. 06:07 < Zol> play games, any other hobbies? =o 06:07 < Zol> socialize? 06:07 < josh_> sort of. 06:07 < josh_> sometimes. 06:07 < Zol> =p 06:07 < imphasing> You know langs other than C? 06:07 < josh_> yes 06:07 < Zol> english :D 06:07 < imphasing> lol 06:08 < imphasing> did you start programing when you were 9? 06:08 -!- easthero [n=edc@58.20.32.2] has left #ipodlinux ["by,all"] 06:08 < BleuLlama> imphasing: i'm more than twice his age, and he knows more about this stuff than me. ;p 06:08 < josh_> imphasing: almost. 06:09 < imphasing> josh_, you done much kernel programming? 06:11 < BleuLlama> i sleep now 06:13 < DylanRE> i no sleep tonight 06:13 < DylanRE> me take 162 mg ritalin 06:15 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:24 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@203-114-178-29.inspire.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:24 < spazzium> getting compile errors buildling pz2 06:25 < imphasing> which ones 06:25 < spazzium> starts with: /bin/sh: line 1: ttk-config: command not found 06:25 < spazzium> and goes on for 30 lines 06:25 < imphasing> pastebin them 06:25 < spazzium> I have ttk in podzilla2/ ../ttk 06:25 < spazzium> so I know ttk is in the right place 06:25 < imphasing> did you compile ttk first? 06:25 < spazzium> yeah 06:26 < imphasing> pastebin the errors 06:26 < spazzium> http://spazzium.pastebin.com/432809 06:27 < imphasing> you should have a directopry structure like this: 06:27 < imphasing> podzilla-> podzilla2, podfile, ttk 06:28 < spazzium> you're confusing me with the initial podzilla 06:28 < spazzium> are you saying this relies partial on pz1 06:28 < imphasing> no 06:28 < spazzium> that seems impossible 06:29 < imphasing> just any folder, with the podzilla2, podfile, and ttk folder in it 06:29 < imphasing> I just chose the name podzilla arbitrarily 06:29 < spazzium> yeah that's what I have 06:29 < spazzium> if you pull the entire tools directory from svn that's how the directory structure is 06:30 < imphasing> you went into ttk, told it to make 06:30 < imphasing> then went into podfile, told it to make 06:30 < spazzium> yup 06:30 < spazzium> yup 06:30 < imphasing> then went into podzilla2 and told it to make? 06:30 < spazzium> yup 06:30 < imphasing> huh... 06:30 < imphasing> podzilla IPOD=1? 06:30 < spazzium> yup 06:30 < imphasing> no idea then... 06:30 < imphasing> ask josh 06:30 < rbz> imphasing, you screwed up my ipod. you owe me a new one 06:30 < rbz> jk... :D 06:30 < imphasing> rbz, lol 06:31 < spazzium> I think josh_ is indispose 06:31 < spazzium> but I'll try 06:31 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:31 * spazzium pokes josh_ 06:33 < rbz> anyways 06:33 < rbz> i need to get this podzilla2 on my nano 06:33 < rbz> any takers? 06:33 < spazzium> after I finish I'll help you 06:33 < rbz> :D 06:35 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 06:36 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@203-114-178-29.inspire.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:37 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@203-114-178-29.inspire.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 -!- Fenix-Dark [n=scott@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 06:42 < joecool> ARGHHH 06:42 < joecool> this accursed mount error 06:43 < joecool> hrm.. do i need to add a new mount line in rc? 06:47 < spazzium> joecool what mount error? 06:48 < spazzium> imphasing: copy the ls of your ttk directory after a build 06:49 < spazzium> just put it on pastebin or something 06:49 < imphasing> http://spazzium.pastebin.com/432823 06:50 < spazzium> ok, I'm not missing anything 06:50 < spazzium> hmmm 06:53 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 06:55 < joecool> spazzium: its like.. its trying to mount something in /tmp/modules 06:55 < joecool> and theres nothing there 07:00 < joecool> any ideas? 07:01 < rbz> alright 07:02 < rbz> what is supposed to be the fdisk scheme for the nano? 07:02 < rbz> mainly because i am having to redo all this 07:02 < rbz> :o 07:03 < joecool> mount: Mounting /usr/share/podzilla/modules/wumpus.pod on /tmp/modules/18 failed: No such device 07:03 < davidc___> read. 07:03 < davidc___> tje 07:03 < davidc___> fucking. 07:03 < davidc___> forum. 07:03 < rbz> all 07:03 < rbz> right 07:03 < rbz> no 07:03 < davidc___> joecool: thats where it will mount on the ipod 07:03 < rbz> problems 07:03 < rbz> here 07:03 < joecool> davidc__: well its not doing a very good job 07:03 < spazzium> rbz 07:03 < spazzium> nano will have 3 partitions 07:03 < davidc___> well thats because you've fucked up isn't it joecool? 07:04 < davidc___> maybe if you applied the right kernel patch to get the loop devices, you wouldn't be having this problem, would you. 07:04 < joecool> davidc__: not to my knowledge.. the only thing that could be fucked up is the patch for the kernel josh_ sent me 07:04 < davidc___> you must not of done it properly 07:04 < davidc___> didja remember to copy the config over 07:04 < rbz> what i had before was sda1 = 1-10 empty, sda3 = 11-33 ext3, and sda2 = 34-497 07:04 < davidc___> then make oldconfig? 07:04 < davidc___> because it sounds like you don't have any loop devices 07:04 < spazzium> that's uh... not going to work rbz 07:04 < joecool> davidc__: of course i did, do not take me for a fool 07:04 < rbz> but it did before spazzium 07:04 < davidc___> joecool: your name is pretty close to one 07:05 < joecool> not funny 07:05 < rbz> i had ipl running like a champ for a while there, until i tried pz2 and the new kernel 07:05 < davidc___> joecool: just remove the joec, add an f! 07:05 < rbz> weak david 07:05 < rbz> :o 07:05 < spazzium> rbz: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 07:05 < davidc___> anyways, did you remember to mknod the loop deivces? 07:05 < davidc___> rbz - go fuck a tree. 07:06 < rbz> lol 07:06 < spazzium> follow the commands there, making note of the subtext for a nano install 07:06 < imphasing> joecool, just use the kernel image on my guide 07:06 < imphasing> it has all 128 loop devices 07:06 < imphasing> it exactly what you neeed 07:06 < davidc___> because it sounds like a loop device problem 07:06 < spazzium> imphasing: isn't he already hosting that kernel on the public guide? 07:06 < davidc___> I don't know if you need to create the loop devs by hand or not 07:06 < davidc___> but thats the problem 07:06 < joecool> davidc__: well, the kernel is built and it has the support 07:06 < joecool> It does appear to be the problem 07:07 < imphasing> the kernel in my podzilla2.tar.gz has the correct kernel in it 07:07 < davidc___> imphasing: did you have to mknod the loop devices by hand? 07:07 < imphasing> I just used a kernel that josh_ gave me 07:07 < imphasing> he already did that 07:07 < davidc___> er, thats in the filesystem 07:07 < davidc___> in /tmp 07:07 < davidc___> er 07:07 < davidc___> ./dev 07:08 < imphasing> oh, as in declare the loops? 07:08 < davidc___> yea 07:08 < imphasing> no, I didn't have to do that 07:08 < davidc___> did you copy a new userland filesystem over? 07:08 < davidc___> that josh or someone gave you 07:08 < imphasing> just minix-sh and the new busybox 07:08 < davidc___> because that might of done it too 07:08 < davidc___> uh, new busybox? 07:08 < davidc___> was it a big tar? 07:08 < davidc___> did it have new /dev entries in it? 07:08 < spazzium> yeah josh_ patched a version of it for pz2 07:08 < imphasing> nope 07:09 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:09 < imphasing> just the busybox binary 07:09 < joecool> wait.. he did? 07:09 * joecool checks 07:09 < imphasing> he just changed the max number of loops 07:09 < imphasing> it's -all- in my tgz file 07:09 < spazzium> imphasing are you still using the same tar you used to install 07:09 < spazzium> and everything works? 07:09 < joecool> wait, er, what? 07:10 < imphasing> http://www.fortworks.com/alex/podzilla2.tar.gz 07:10 < imphasing> that has everything, and a working kernel 07:10 < spazzium> imphasing: how recent is that tar? 07:10 < imphasing> very 07:10 < spazzium> define very 07:10 < spazzium> last hour? 07:10 < imphasing> I updated it as soon as josh fixed added libc into pz2, and changed the # of loop devices in busybox 07:11 < spazzium> because josh_ fixed some stuff quite recently 07:11 < davidc___> hmm.. would busybox have the dev devices in it? 07:11 < spazzium> but not after he fixed display problems for 4g? 07:11 < davidc___> I can't remember how much busybox encompases 07:11 < imphasing> it just had a limit of 8 loops on it 07:11 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:11 < imphasing> he hasn't fixed anything since I updated that tar 07:12 < joecool> not gonna work.. 07:12 < davidc___> well, limit of 8 loops doesn't mean much 07:12 < davidc___> issat in the mount for busybox? 07:12 < imphasing> I know, but that's all he fixed 07:12 < imphasing> pretty sure 07:12 < spazzium> it wasn't loading all the modules before he did that 07:12 < davidc___> I just don't know if his busy box fs populates /dev or not 07:12 < joecool> something was fixed relating to me? if it was, please direct it here 07:12 < DylanRE> imphasing: i found the 32 bit download of menuetOS. don't know if you were interested, but if you are http://www.menuetos.org/download 07:12 < imphasing> davidc__, me either... 07:12 < imphasing> DylanRE, cool 07:13 < imphasing> ok, busybox does populate the /dev/loop/# 07:13 < davidc___> so yea, its the busybox that's needed 07:13 < davidc___> otherwise you'll only mount the first 8 modules 07:13 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:13 < imphasing> right 07:13 * joecool would like something to populate /tmp/modules 07:13 < davidc___> which is exactly the thing joecool us exoeruebce 07:13 < imphasing> exactly 07:14 < davidc___> joecool: you need the loop devices to populate /tmp modules 07:14 < imphasing> that new busybox in in that tar file as well 07:14 < imphasing> in the 'bin' folder 07:14 < imphasing> each module gets mounted as a loop 07:14 < joecool> i got the busybox, minix-sh, and the kernel with the patch josh_ sent me 07:14 < imphasing> and that filesystem goes into the /tmp/modules 07:14 < DylanRE> imphasing: whoops, add an .html to the end of that url. 07:14 < imphasing> DylanRE, yeah, I figured that out ;) 07:15 < imphasing> is it only mounting 8 modules joecool? 07:15 < joecool> its not mounting any i don't think.. i can't really tell now can I? kinda hard when theres no file browser or anything working 07:16 < davidc___> wumpus is fairly far down the list IIRC 07:16 < davidc___> so you probably are mounting the first 8 fine 07:16 < imphasing> yeah 07:17 < imphasing> just replace the busybox with the in http://www.fortworks.com/alex/podzilla2.tar.gze in 07:17 < imphasing> and see what happens 07:17 < joecool> well.. nothing in extra is there.. but i do have a couple things 07:17 < imphasing> make sure you chmod +x busybox 07:17 * joecool tries for shits and giggles 07:18 < davidc___> and try mknod'ing the right files in /dev 07:19 < davidc___> I'm going to bed 07:19 < imphasing> good ploan 07:19 < imphasing> when I start typing slurred, it's late 07:21 < joecool> well.. this is a big "wtf?" 07:21 < joecool> msdos_read_upper failed << well thats no suprise.. its a friggin hfsplus partition 07:23 < joecool> ok.. back to working.. still won't mount 07:25 < rbz> alright 07:25 < rbz> got the old stuff back on 07:27 * imphasing is away: sleeptime 07:27 < joecool> ffs 07:28 < joecool> no... devices... anywhere... 07:28 < joecool> ARGH 07:28 < rbz> :o 07:28 < joecool> is dev supposed to be empty? 07:29 < joecool> cause it is.. no nodes in there after shutdown 07:29 < joecool> same for /tmp/modules (i don't think it ever had nodes to begin with though) 07:35 < Zol> testing 07:35 < Zol> hello 07:35 < Zol> ? 07:35 < Zol> ping 07:35 -!- Tian2 [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 < rbz> hmmm 07:36 < rbz> spazzium, you still on? 07:36 < davidc___> eh, depends... 07:36 < davidc___> joecool: /tmp/modules gets mounted on the fly 07:36 < davidc___> now I'm really off to bed 07:36 < davidc___> and don't fucking complain about alpha quality software thats just been announced 07:36 < davidc___> you could help debug instead of bitching and whining 07:37 < joecool> i didn't complain 07:37 < rbz> lol 07:37 < joecool> i'm just irritated its not working :P 07:37 < joecool> when it does elsewhere 07:37 < rbz> :o 07:38 < joecool> i'll blame it on the fact its a mac ipod, i don't think it likes that right now 07:38 < rbz> once i am done backing up my main comp (this one), im going to toss linux on it and start messing around with all this source 07:39 < rbz> what version joecool? 07:39 < joecool> as in? 07:39 < rbz> ipod 07:39 -!- prru1 [n=prru1@193.170.45.139] has joined #ipodlinux 07:39 < rbz> gen 07:39 < joecool> 4th gen 07:39 < joecool> greyscale 07:39 < rbz> i thought 4th gen was mac/pc 07:39 < rbz> do you own a pc? 07:39 < joecool> its mac formatted 07:40 < joecool> yes, i don't own a mac, i just hate FAT32 07:40 -!- prru1 [n=prru1@193.170.45.139] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:40 < rbz> ... 07:40 < rbz> i dont get you... 07:40 < joecool> well, i can at least say my music isn't garbled anymore 07:40 < rbz> why would it be garbled? 07:41 < joecool> FAT32 corrupted for reasons unknown to me (coulda been IPL, coulda been linux's annoying vfat driver, coulda been alot of things... bad blocks, you know) 07:41 < joecool> in any case.. the issue doesn't exist with hfsplus 07:41 < rbz> i have yet to have any issue with fat32 07:41 < joecool> i've had other past issues to make me hate the driver 07:42 < rbz> :/ 07:42 < joecool> it ate a flash card in 3 hours due to sync writes and atime 07:42 < rbz> looks like you are running into issues without it now 07:42 < joecool> i've had some.. this would be an IPL error though if its because of it 07:43 < rbz> so fix it 07:43 < rbz> :o 07:43 < joecool> still doesn't make sense though, podfs is a loopback fs.. so it shouldn't affect it 07:43 < rbz> what do you have in your rc file? 07:43 < joecool> rbz: the way to fix something, is to know whats happening, all i know is that there are no loopback devices 07:44 < joecool> http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/ipodlinux/rc 07:45 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 < rbz> do you just skip on mounting /dev/hda2? 07:47 < rbz> or is that because you have hfs? 07:50 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:50 < rbz> ? 07:52 < joecool> hda2 is my firmware partition 07:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc___ ] by ChanServ 07:53 < joecool> so yeah 07:54 < joecool> i need to sleep, so farewell 07:54 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 07:55 < joecool|sleep> and curse coob if he bans me while i'm away sleeping 07:56 < shocktech> K 08:18 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:21 -!- shocktech [n=ocdruma@cpe-67-49-178-146.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 08:45 -!- Ego^pFe [n=pata@host18-172.pool81113.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:49 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:52 -!- DylanRE is now known as youspelleditwron 08:52 -!- youspelleditwron is now known as DylanRE 08:55 < DylanRE> whoops 09:02 -!- Teljkon [n=Teljkon@dpc6746108178.direcpc.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 09:25 -!- Prot [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:29 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:29 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:31 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:31 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:37 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:59 -!- iKernel [n=chatzill@CPE-144-137-9-15.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 -!- Arctik [n=jaymz@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has quit ["Ctl+Alt+deleet"] 10:06 -!- iKernel [n=chatzill@CPE-144-137-9-15.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 10:22 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h6n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:23 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h105n10c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:24 -!- spazzium [n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@203-114-178-29.inspire.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 10:36 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:41 -!- court [n=court@adsl-83-203-99.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:41 -!- court is now known as courtc 10:41 < aegray> courtc: ping 10:41 < courtc> hello 10:41 < aegray> a) why the hell are you up 10:42 < aegray> b) question about cross compiler 10:42 < courtc> A) why the hell are you up? 10:42 < aegray> what --with-cpu= do you use to compile gcc? 10:42 < aegray> A) I asked you first 10:42 < aegray> and i'm working on homework 10:43 < courtc> I'm just re-organising my servers, kernels storage n'such. 10:44 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:46 < Ego^pFe> aegray sorry, do you have the patch you told me ? 10:46 < Ego^pFe> :) 10:46 < Ego^pFe> I`m meaning ipod video :> 10:46 < aegray> for the kernel or ipodloader? 10:46 < aegray> courtc: answer on that question? 10:46 < aegray> --with-cpu? 10:46 < courtc> 1 sec, sorry 10:46 < aegray> k 10:46 < Ego^pFe> aegray for the loader 10:47 < Ego^pFe> and, if you have, also for the kernel 10:47 < aegray> for the kernel i do 10:49 < aegray> Ego^pFe: check pm 10:51 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:51 < courtc> aegray: you just want a link to the build script I've been using? 10:51 < aegray> sure 10:51 < aegray> whats an acronym for educational 10:52 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/build-uclinux-tools.sh 10:53 < courtc> E 10:53 < aegray> hmm maybe not acronym 10:53 < aegray> whats the word for opposit 10:53 < aegray> e 10:53 < courtc> heh 10:53 < Synapse> Antonym. 10:53 < aegray> antonym 10:53 < aegray> yea 10:53 < aegray> whats an *antonym* for educational 10:53 < Synapse> Uneducational :P 10:53 < aegray> haha 10:53 < aegray> ok 10:54 < Synapse> THere is no real word for that. 10:54 < aegray> damn 10:54 < aegray> i can hope 10:54 < courtc> IRC <--- 10:55 < aegray> damn 10:56 < aegray> uninformative :) 10:56 < courtc> What's the sentence? 10:56 < aegray> its not 10:56 < aegray> its a survey 10:57 < courtc> :| 10:58 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:04 -!- linuxstb_ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:06 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:06 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 11:10 -!- joecool_ [n=joecool@nj-69-34-166-176.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:19 -!- tomas__ [i=office_b@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 11:20 < tomas__> How do I locate my ipod? 11:20 < tomas__> /dev/sda is another harddrive!! 11:20 < aegray> with your eyes? 11:20 < tomas__> no :< 11:20 < aegray> dmesg when you connect it tells you where its connected 11:20 < tomas__> sweet 11:22 < aegray> anyone know a word for "family oriented"? 11:24 < tomas__> aegray: it does'nt return any path where the ipod might be located.. 11:25 < aegray> tail -f dmesg right after connecting - what does that say? 11:25 < aegray> pastebin 11:26 < tomas__> tail: inga fler filer 11:26 < aegray> wha? 11:26 < aegray> file not found? 11:26 < aegray> oh god 11:26 < tomas__> cant pÃ¥em dmesh for reading. file not found 11:26 < aegray> tail -f /var/log/syslog 11:26 < tomas__> ye 11:26 < aegray> haha 11:27 -!- joecool|sleep [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:28 < tomas__> http://c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se/ipaste 11:28 < aegray> thats when you disconnect it 11:28 < aegray> how about when you connect it? 11:30 < tomas__> look now 11:31 < aegray> creating device node sdb sdb1 sdb2 11:31 < aegray> what isn't self explanatory about that? 11:31 < tomas__> :J thanks an 11:41 -!- salgado [n=salgado@201-13-106-123.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 11:49 < tomas__> in "./make_fw -3 -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin -l uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.bin loader.bin", what should i replace my_sw.bin with? 11:50 < aegray> nothing 11:50 < courtc> That'll be your output file. 11:50 < courtc> hence -o 11:50 < tomas__> :( 11:50 < aegray> -oranges? 11:51 < tomas__> i have no idea what the commando does and what I should replace anthing with 11:51 < EvilDude> i wish i had a commando :( 11:52 < aegray> me too 11:52 < EvilDude> man you tales of symphonia is hard :( (random rpg thats meant to be good) 11:53 < EvilDude> i button bashed my way to where i am 11:53 < EvilDude> and then i realise i'm meant to actually learn how to control the things or else i'll lose the battle =\ 11:59 < courtc> mash harder 12:01 < courtc> (coming from someone who typically finishes games in one go) 12:02 < EvilDude> haha 12:03 < EvilDude> i might have to *gasp* learn what i'm doing :( 12:03 < aegray> NOOO 12:03 < aegray> don't do it 12:04 < EvilDude> I dont want to :( 12:04 < EvilDude> i'll try again tomorrow :P button bashing for a while more 12:04 < EvilDude> and then if it doesn't work I'll have to learn and do the levelling up crap! 12:06 -!- Arctick [n=admin@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:07 < Arctick> hey whats that other mini music box project called? for stuff like zen 12:08 < courtc> hmf.. console games suck. 12:08 < courtc> Arctick: rockbox 12:09 < Arctick> thanx cout 12:09 < Arctick> <-- gnub 12:09 < aegray> haha cout 12:09 < aegray> for someone who hates c++ 12:09 * courtc not a C++ method 12:09 < aegray> cout not a method 12:09 < courtc> fuck you 12:09 < aegray> haha 12:09 < courtc> I don't know what the hell it is. 12:09 < aegray> its a piece of magic 12:10 < aegray> dirty magic 12:10 < slowcoder> It's an IO stream 12:10 < courtc> yea... printf > * 12:10 < aegray> amen 12:10 < slowcoder> A particular io-stream, affectionately known as "cunt" 12:11 < Arctick> cause this kid im talkin too says his Zen is broken... on further investigation i think he gave up cause it wont boot when he resets it... 12:11 < Arctick> says nothings wrong with it physicly 12:11 < aegray> take it from him 12:11 < aegray> and don't give it back 12:11 < Arctick> so imgonna try steerin him in the right direction 12:11 < aegray> slowcoder: thats a dirty word 12:11 < aegray> my ears hurt now 12:11 < Arctick> god ur sutcha dick aegray 12:11 < aegray> haha 12:11 < slowcoder> aegray: Oh? Are you sure? :) 12:11 < Arctick> im talkin to him over irc 12:11 < slowcoder> rockbox doesnt run on the Zen 12:12 < Arctick> is there something that does? 12:12 < courtc> Zen doesn't run on the rockbox 12:12 < aegray> box doesn't run on the rockzen 12:12 < slowcoder> The box doesnt rock on the Zen 12:12 < courtc> ZenOS? 12:12 < EvilDude> courtc: console games rule!!! :P 12:12 < EvilDude> actually I only like Zelda :) 12:13 < EvilDude> Well most nintendo console games are good 12:13 < EvilDude> sony has this habit of making 100000 shit games where one happens to be semi decent but would be better on PC 12:13 < slowcoder> courtc: What would that OS be like? One big idle-loop with a "hlt" in the middle ? 12:13 < courtc> haha 12:13 < aegray> zen != dead 12:14 * aegray dies 12:14 < slowcoder> aegray: You're famous! 12:14 < slowcoder> http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000960068202/ 12:14 < EvilDude> he was famous long ago? 12:14 < aegray> i don't see my name anywhere 12:14 < EvilDude> haha 12:15 < slowcoder> aegray: Nah, but it's your baby they're talking about 12:15 < aegray> oh - my demonseed 12:15 < aegray> that illigitimate child 12:15 < aegray> shoulda used a condom 12:15 < EvilDude> haha, see aegray thats what happens when you dont name your children after yourself 12:15 < EvilDude> no one gives you credit ;) 12:15 < aegray> haha 12:15 < EvilDude> see if you called the video player like 12:15 < aegray> AegrayPlayer 12:15 < EvilDude> aegray rulz player :p 12:15 < EvilDude> lol 12:15 < aegray> haha 12:15 < EvilDude> see now then you'd be known! 12:15 < aegray> i like it better this way 12:15 < courtc> vidaeo player 12:16 < aegray> haha 12:16 < EvilDude> reminds me, any module i make will very likely be called EvilDude'sModule :P 12:16 < EvilDude> hahaha 12:16 < aegray> then they just think i'm greek or something 12:16 < EvilDude> rofl 12:25 -!- Fenix-Dark [n=scott@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:04 < philip> where can i get that kernel patch that josh_ had? 13:06 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-eabfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 13:06 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-eabfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 13:14 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-eabfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["leaving"] 13:15 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@2001:618:400:0:0:0:53e2:bfea] has joined #ipodlinux 13:15 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@2001:618:400:0:0:0:53e2:bfea] has quit [Client Quit] 13:15 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@2001:618:400:0:0:0:53e2:bfea] has joined #ipodlinux 13:16 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@2001:618:400:0:0:0:53e2:bfea] has quit [Client Quit] 13:16 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@hastur.eevul.org] has joined #ipodlinux 13:20 -!- Arctick [n=admin@nr13-216-68-208-139.fuse.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 13:21 -!- Barium [n=barium@odwr108094.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 13:32 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf9f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:50 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-251.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:52 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd1b4.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:04 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-134-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:18 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 14:24 -!- keppiukko [i=Juho@YYYKMCXXIII.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 14:24 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h105n10c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:26 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h66n13c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:53 -!- abi [n=abi@enz.schiach.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:57 -!- abi [n=abi@enz.schiach.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:58 < Lex> woo :D 14:58 < Lex> dropped my ipod 15:06 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 < Tian2> yeah me too :s 15:20 -!- Tian2 is now known as Zol 15:20 < Zol> now there's this small dent on the bottom 15:21 < Lecx> but my ipod works :O 15:21 < Zol> ahhh i hope apple doesnt kill me for it if i ever have to send it in 15:23 < SereR0KR> what's 5G Status? xD 15:24 < Zol> ipl.org/project_status 15:24 -!- salgado [n=salgado@201-13-106-123.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:29 < slowcoder> SereR0KR: It's pretty unchanged 15:29 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-154-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:29 < slowcoder> We've managed to locate all the code for the VMCS, but no progress has been made on finding the code for activating and bootstrapping it from the main CPU 15:29 < Zol> i'm so getting the 6g ipod when it comes out 15:30 < Zyrill> slowcoder: what is the VMCS? 15:30 < slowcoder> Zyrill: The extra CPU in the 5G. The one that does H.264 and all that 15:31 < Zyrill> ah ok thx... so mine doesn't have it *grr* 15:31 < slowcoder> Come to think of it.. There's a total of three CPUs in the 5G.. CPU, COP, VMCS 15:31 < Zyrill> cop being? 15:31 < Lex> slowcoder is h.263 someday coming for photo ipods? :p 15:31 < slowcoder> Zyrill: The extra core on the PortalPlayer chip 15:32 < slowcoder> Lex: I dont know.. Are you volunteering to write it ? 15:32 < Zol> hmm 15:32 < Lex> not really 15:32 < Zol> what's h.263? 15:32 < Lex> 3gp 15:32 < Zyrill> h.263 might, but h.264 - i can't see that one coming 15:32 < Zol> is it compressed? 15:32 < Lex> yea 15:32 < Zol> like 15:32 < Lex> it's made for nokia's phones 15:32 < Zol> how much bigger than mp3s? 15:32 < Zyrill> lol 15:32 < Lex> 3gp is video :p 15:32 < Zol> of the same video? 15:33 < Zyrill> mp3s? that's video we're talking about, duh 15:33 < Zol> there are mp3 videos too 15:33 * BleuLlama slaps forehead. 15:33 < Lex> :p 15:33 < BleuLlama> mp3 videos? 15:33 < BleuLlama> heh 15:33 < Lex> i think that h.263 is not so hard encoded 15:33 < Zol> okok 15:33 < Lex> but nokia's series 60 phones has a extra chip for decoding? 15:33 < Lex> my nokia 6600 decodes xvid too :P 15:33 < Zol> how much more than compressed avi? =o 15:34 < Lex> realtime 15:34 < Lex> Zol, i'll get an image for you sometime 15:34 < Lex> someday :o 15:34 < Zyrill> Zol why do you care? you don't even know what ivtc is 15:34 < Lex> so, encoded 700MB movie, 50MB in 3gp :P 15:35 < BleuLlama> that of course depends on resolution, bitrate, etc. 15:35 < Zol> so lets say 15:35 < Lex> yea 15:35 < Zol> what's 3gp?? 15:35 < Lex> it was.. 176x144 i think 15:35 < Lex> Zol 15:35 < Lex> wikipedia :P 15:35 < Zol> k 15:36 < Lex> it's a video format 15:36 < Zol> ah 15:36 < Zol> so, around how big would a 90min movie be in h.263? 15:37 < Lex> in 176x144 ~40-60MB 15:37 < Zol> at 20fps 15:37 < Zol> wow 15:37 < Zol> that's sweet 15:37 < Lex> but it's not so clear than uncompressed 15:37 < Zol> way better than 5gb 15:37 < Lex> but you can watch it if you really want :D 15:39 < Lex> + to 15:40 < Zol> and has anyone figured out the bug in the ringbuffer yet? =p 15:41 < xhavok> did i see correctly on digg that the nano has video support now? 15:41 < Zol> yes 15:41 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:42 -!- dystopianray [n=dystopia@203-173-57-144.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 15:42 < xhavok> if i try it and mess it up, is there any issues getting just your ipod back to the way it was? 15:43 < Zol> just do a diskmode and restore 15:43 < Zyrill> xhavok: yes, we babysitted a guy through his ipod-recovery yesterday... took 2 hours 15:43 < xhavok> cool 15:43 < BleuLlama> no. not cool 15:43 < Zol> LOL 15:43 < Zol> hahahaha 15:43 < Zol> 2 hours 15:44 < xhavok> anyone here done it on the nano yet? 15:44 < Zyrill> please make sure you know what you're doing (meaning you know linux) 15:44 < Zyrill> DONT TRY 15:44 < dystopianray> can I get a shell on ipl ? 15:44 < Zol> yes you can 15:45 < Zol> wait no 15:45 < Zol> you can only see shell? 15:45 < dystopianray> :( 15:45 < Zyrill> why the fuck can't you shut up Zol? 15:45 < dystopianray> so Zol is just a troll and I can get a shell? 15:46 < imphasing> yes you can 15:46 < imphasing> just quit podzilla 15:46 < imphasing> :P 15:46 < imphasing> you have only 6 characters though 15:46 < dystopianray> how do I quit podzilla? 15:46 -!- salgado [n=salgado@201-13-106-123.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 < Lecx> why i can't run sash? :P 15:46 < BleuLlama> there is a shell that lets you type out letters with the wheel. 15:46 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@147.80-203-70.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:46 < Lecx> i run /bin/sh and it shows only some lines and then goes back to podzilla 15:47 < BleuLlama> don't remember which one it is. it's not worth dealing with 15:47 < imphasing> you have to download the textinput program 15:47 < Lecx> hmm 15:47 < BleuLlama> one shell had textinput built in. 15:47 < imphasing> not for pz2 if that's what you have 15:47 < dystopianray> I can edit the init scripts to dump dmesg to a text file, right? 15:47 < SereR0KR> what's pz2? 15:47 < Zol> =p 15:47 < imphasing> podzilla2 15:48 < SereR0KR> wtf is podzilla 2? 15:48 < Zol> here we go again 15:48 < imphasing> ...the second podzilla 15:48 < Lecx> when is it coming out 15:48 < BleuLlama> read the topic 15:48 < imphasing> when it's good and ready 15:48 < Lecx> are there any beta versios for me? :o 15:48 < Zyrill> when are you going to stop asking stupid question? 15:48 < SereR0KR> whats better in pz2 than in the 1st one 15:49 < Zyrill> when are YOU going to stop asking stupid question? 15:49 < dystopianray> Lecx: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3753 15:49 < slowcoder> Two is always better than one.. 15:49 < slowcoder> :) 15:49 < dystopianray> anyway, how do I quiet podzilla and get into a shell? 15:49 < Zyrill> man it's in the menu 15:49 < SereR0KR> i got a 5G can't test it 15:49 < Zyrill> can't you reed? 15:49 < Zyrill> read that is? 15:49 < dystopianray> no working menus 15:49 < SereR0KR> and i got a broken 4G :) 15:50 < Lecx> :O 15:51 < SereR0KR> dunno what's broken :o 15:51 < dystopianray> with my trial and error I haven't found any menu option to quit podzilla, would someone be able to tell me what submenu it is in? 15:51 < SereR0KR> it shows the iPod with the x_x eyes xD 15:51 < josh_> 23:06 <@davidc___> I don't know if you need to create the loop devs by hand or not 15:51 < josh_> you do not 15:51 < josh_> it uses devfs - /dev/loop/* 15:51 < BleuLlama> dystopianray: if you can't figure out the menus, you don't deserve to use a shell. 15:51 < dystopianray> BleuLlama: I can't see the menus 15:51 < dystopianray> BleuLlama: I have to go by ear 15:52 < imphasing> josh_, how did you see that? that was a good 12 hours ago... 15:52 < BleuLlama> just hard reboot it. 15:52 < imphasing> :D 15:52 < BleuLlama> menus changed a lot. we have no idea what version of podzilla you have. 15:52 < dystopianray> latest nightly 15:52 < josh_> 23:28 < joecool> is dev supposed to be empty? 15:52 < josh_> yes, it's devfs. 15:53 < Zol> lol 15:53 < dystopianray> hard rebooting doesn't give me a shell it just loads podzilla again 15:53 < ubermensch> yeah, i'm not able to see the menus either in pz2 15:53 < BleuLlama> how about hard rebooting back to retailos, then changing the init script to load whatever shell it is you want to use? 15:54 < josh_> imphasing: when I get back, I look through my scrollback, paste lines and reply to them. 15:54 < imphasing> josh_, you must have a much longer scroll back then me. :D 15:54 < josh_> dystopianray: pz0 or pz2? 15:54 < dystopianray> josh_: pz0 15:54 < josh_> ah, no idea there 15:55 < imphasing> there should be a "shut down" or "reboot" menu on the main menu 15:55 < imphasing> in there, is a 'quit podzilla' option 15:55 < Lecx> The guy from trolltech (the company making Qt) said it should be possible to run this on the iPod (Qt even works on cell-phones). Well, let's see...... 15:55 < Lecx> wtf 15:56 < slowcoder> I've seen the QT code. I used to share apartments with one of their devs.. There's NO way we wanna get into that mess 15:56 < dystopianray> imphasing: is this the first option? I see something about eth0 flash on the terminal, the backlight turns off and podzilla starts up again 15:57 < preglow> can any of you guys tell me the differences between a pp5022 and a pp5021? 15:57 < imphasing> a better cache on one of em 15:57 < imphasing> not sure which 15:57 < slowcoder> imphasing: Wrong 15:58 < BleuLlama> one is +1 more than the other 15:58 < imphasing> right 15:58 < slowcoder> preglow: No differences from a software standpoint.. Electrical / external bus differences 15:58 < imphasing> I know 15:58 < imphasing> I never said software 15:58 < preglow> slowcoder: ok, sounds nice 15:58 < slowcoder> imphasing: There's no difference in cache either 15:58 < imphasing> one has a wait instruction every other inscturction, making it much slower when executing code larger than it's internel memo 15:58 < imphasing> s/memo/memory/ 15:59 < preglow> imphasing: sounds unlikely 15:59 < preglow> imphasing: sure you're not talking about pp5002 ? 15:59 < imphasing> preglow, yet true... 15:59 < imphasing> ah 15:59 < slowcoder> imphasing: Goddamit! 15:59 < imphasing> that's the one 15:59 < imphasing> :D 15:59 < preglow> hehe 15:59 < dystopianray> lol 15:59 < slowcoder> imphasing: If you're not 100% sure, stop feeding people the wrong info 15:59 < imphasing> I saw the two, and though '3G!" 15:59 < dystopianray> anyone ported ssh to ipl that I can use with ethernet over firewire? 16:00 < slowcoder> dystopianray: That only works on <=3G 16:00 < dystopianray> slowcoder: yeah I know, but are there any ssh porting efforts? 16:00 < imphasing> the pp5021 is on the 2g minis? 16:00 < imphasing> or is that the nano 16:01 < preglow> nano 16:01 < slowcoder> dystopianray: Not as of now 16:01 < slowcoder> Nano, and 5G 16:01 < imphasing> dystopianray, there's a 'power' menu on the main menu 16:01 < imphasing> dystopianray, that's the one with 'quit podzilla' 16:02 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:02 < freqmod> Hello i am working on video for the nano and i have managed to get random noise on the screen and some blue dots in a line like http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/IMG_1702.JPG 16:02 < BleuLlama> unless you modified the init scripts though, it will either jsut reboot the ipod, or restart podzilla 16:02 < dystopianray> imphasing: yes, I found the power menu at the bottom, I have found the quit podzilla option now 16:02 < dystopianray> yeah it's jsut restarting podzilla 16:02 < imphasing> doesn't help though 16:02 < dystopianray> I guess I'll have to be editing the initscript then :) 16:02 < imphasing> only command you can do is like 'dd' 16:02 < imphasing> yes 16:02 < BleuLlama> which is what i told you from the beginning, dys. 16:02 < imphasing> it's 'rc' in /etc 16:03 < dystopianray> can I dump dmesg to a file on startup? 16:03 < freqmod> i have replaced the photo blit function with http://pastebin.ca/29021 and changed the dimensions of the screen, and now i don't manage to get someting else than noise 16:03 < imphasing> yeah 16:03 < imphasing> after it mounts hp, tell it this: 16:03 < imphasing> dmesg 16:03 < imphasing> wait 20 16:04 < imphasing> or something to that effect 16:04 < imphasing> you won't be able to scroll up to see it though 16:04 < imphasing> I don't remember how to log dmesg...is it 'dmesg &> some.log'? 16:04 < ubermensch> dmesg > /log.txt worked fine for me 16:11 -!- Bi-noix [n=binoix@84.7.71.120] has joined #ipodlinux 16:13 -!- dystopianray [n=dystopia@203-173-57-144.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 16:13 -!- Ego^pFe [n=pata@host18-172.pool81113.interbusiness.it] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:31 -!- Steveage [n=chatzill@208.249.93.77] has joined #ipodlinux 16:32 < Steveage> does anyone know if there's a project like this for the Olympus M:Robe? This project is incredible 16:33 -!- tomas___ [i=office_b@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 < tomas___> hello! does anyone here have the linuxos-2005-08-28-+extras.tar.bz2 files? as seen on the installation guide 16:34 < tomas___> á the all-in-one kernel podzilla iDoom etc tarball! 16:38 < tomas___> ? :)))) 16:39 < ubermensch> nope, but by the dating in the name of the package, i don't think you'd want it anyways 16:39 < ubermensch> over a couple months old 16:40 < ubermensch> floydzilla can provide all the extra stuff, but it won't come with the kernel 16:41 < ubermensch> best to get the latest nightly build of the kernel anyway 16:42 -!- Steveage [n=chatzill@208.249.93.77] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 16:49 < tomas___> ubermensch: sweet, now there are empty partions waiting to be filled. is installing a kernel en then floydzilla a good idea? 16:53 < ubermensch> you will still need to follow the rest of the instructions in the installation guide, but instead of installing the podzilla the guide tells you to, go to http://www.dansfloyd.com/floydzilla.html and dl floydzilla 16:53 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-134-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["jezz rundumerneuert -> #lw-rulez und http://www.lw-rulez.de.vu"] 16:54 < ubermensch> floydzilla is pretty similar, but it includes doom1,doom2, iboy, a video player, etc 16:55 < BleuLlama> it doesn't have "heretic"? what's the point. 16:55 < tomas___> iboy that sounds kinde gay HEHEHEHehehEhe 16:55 < ubermensch> hehehe 16:56 < BleuLlama> in your vocabulary, is "gay" a negative word? 16:56 -!- Barium [n=barium@odwr108094.catv.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:57 -!- jepagodo [i=jesper@jepagodo.iNTEC.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 16:58 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:05 -!- god3 [n=sf@ip30.225.susc.suscom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:07 < tomas___> BleuLlama: mostlyy no 17:07 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:16 < god3> anyway to make videos last longer then 13 min? 17:25 -!- Laptricity [n=444@71-37-223-51.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [] 17:29 -!- god3 [n=sf@ip30.225.susc.suscom.net] has quit [] 17:32 -!- Bi-noix [n=binoix@84.7.71.120] has quit ["brb"] 17:34 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 17:37 < tomas__> he lib directory below refers to the directory from the kernel release and contains the modules directory 17:38 < tomas__> where is that directory? 17:38 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:40 -!- davidc____ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:40 -!- davidc__ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 -!- davidc____ is now known as davidc__ 17:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 17:43 < TiKKu^> Okay, I've got 4G iPod mini, I'm trying to install the unsupported linux on it (just to test it), my problem is that when i boot the ipod, it shows this Directory icon with a ! on it, what did i do wrong? Build is 2.6 and buildvisible is 1.4 i could not downgrade it, could this be the reason, and would you happen to know why i could'nt downgrade it? 17:43 < frijole> omg a 4g mini?!?!?!? who dude. you must know someone in apple h/w engineering... you sure you should be telling us about that?!? 17:44 < TiKKu^> yes, 4GB black & white mini 17:44 < frijole> OOOOOOOH 4 gig! 17:44 < TiKKu^> what the heck? 17:44 < frijole> 4G = 4th generation 17:44 < TiKKu^> ah 17:44 < frijole> the minis are either 1G or 2G, first or secondn generation 17:44 < TiKKu^> you sure? 17:45 < frijole> 1G = first gen; 2G = 2nd gen. the 1Gs are all 4 GB, the 2Gs are 4 or 6GB 17:45 < frijole> and neither one is supported under iPL 17:45 < TiKKu^> since it is not supported, or that what is said in the website 17:46 < frijole> since the iPL team won't help you with it, becuase its not supported 17:47 < frijole> whether or not it will work *shrug* 17:47 < frijole> thats wat the forums are for 17:47 < TiKKu^> and how can i verify which one my mini is, 1st or 2nd G? 17:47 < frijole> does it have "4GB" etched on the back? 17:48 < TiKKu^> yes it does 17:50 < frijole> then its a 2G iPod mini 17:50 * frijole must run 17:52 < TiKKu^> which linux can be installed to that? 17:56 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 17:56 -!- jepagodo [i=jesper@jepagodo.iNTEC.EDU] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:58 < tomas__> now I only get a flashing apple logo when booting. does anyone reccon this problem? 18:06 -!- tomas__ [i=office_b@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:06 -!- tomas___ [i=office_b@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:08 -!- jepagodo [n=jesper@194.18.96.65] has joined #ipodlinux 18:15 -!- MartinJohansson [n=awfewae@e4fc.cust.vannas.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 < Lecx> good evening 18:20 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:20 -!- r2d2- [n=fqwfqw@ppp-70-247-91-228.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h118n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:24 < MartinJohansson> Hey, I got a problem. I have a iPod nano, im using windows xp. In my iPod i can´t do anything, the appel boot screen apper and then some kind of warning icon. Reboot doesnt help. My computer dosen´t not recognize my iPod, i have drivers. So i can´t reset my iPod. Anyone knows what to do? 18:25 < Lecx> MartinJohansson, plug in the cable 18:25 < Lecx> when it's shutted down 18:25 < Lecx> and then it should go to disk mode, and then get the apple firmware restore utility, and click "restore" 18:26 < Lecx> then it writes a new firmware into it, but you will lose your music 18:27 < MartinJohansson> thx alot i´ll try that. brb 18:27 < Lecx> firmware restore utility aka ipod updater 18:27 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h66n13c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 18:29 < davidc__> MartinJohansson: if that doesn't work, there are a lengthy set of instructions on the forum that you will need to follow 18:30 < davidc__> it requires a linux livecd 18:30 < MartinJohansson> its unabel to restor utilityes, it doesn´t recognize my ipod, its unread abel, by some reason. 18:31 < davidc__> did you boot into disk mode? 18:31 < davidc__> aka, your ipod should say "DO NOT DISCONNECT" 18:31 -!- ipod [n=eyalnoy@bzq-84-110-41-232.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #iPodLinux 18:32 < MartinJohansson> yeah, i did. 18:33 < MartinJohansson> but it does´t look like it used to, its only black and white. 18:33 < davidc__> yeah, that means its in the backup mode 18:33 < davidc__> in the flash 18:33 < MartinJohansson> okey 18:33 < davidc__> I assume the ipod udpater just crashes? 18:33 < davidc__> and the disk shows up as blank? 18:33 < MartinJohansson> yeah it does 18:34 < jepagodo> is it difficult to get linux to my ipod? if i've got some experience with linux 18:34 < davidc__> thats what happens when you fuck up your ipods partition table 18:34 < davidc__> like when you use an installer that doesn't work on the nano 18:34 < davidc__> there are a set of instructions in the forums 18:34 < davidc__> search for fdisk 18:34 < davidc__> they're sticky'ed as nano repair instructions 18:35 < davidc__> you'll need a linux livecd or a computer running linux 18:35 < MartinJohansson> all right, thx. 18:35 < davidc__> you know how to use linux, right? 18:35 < Lecx> jepagodo some experience is good :p 18:36 < davidc__> jepagodo: if you use ones that we say "Supported" on, your experience will be pretty much seamless 18:36 < davidc__> but if you don't read the docs, you can fuck up your ipod, like Martin here 18:36 < davidc__> now, we've never seen one that was so dead that it couldn't be brought back to life 18:36 < jepagodo> but, it's possible to get linux to a nano, right? even though it's not officially supportet 18:36 < davidc__> yeah, its possible 18:36 < davidc__> you just need to do it by hand 18:36 < jepagodo> okay 18:36 < davidc__> and think about what you're doig 18:37 < davidc__> and you need to do it from linux or osx 18:37 < jepagodo> will there be a windows-installer for nano? 18:37 < davidc__> maybe sometime 18:37 < jepagodo> okay 18:37 < davidc__> not right now though 18:37 < davidc__> We don't make the installers 18:37 < jepagodo> ah 18:37 < jepagodo> okay 18:37 < jepagodo> i se 18:37 < jepagodo> e 18:37 < davidc__> us core devs just do the ipod coding.. its usually separate projects that run the installers 18:39 < MartinJohansson> davidc. I have no idea how to use it, I have´t even seen a computer running on linux in irl :P 18:39 < davidc__> can you find a friend that does know how to? 18:40 < MartinJohansson> maby, can be hard tough 18:40 < davidc__> well, can you use cmd in windows? 18:41 < MartinJohansson> a bit 18:41 < philip> does podzilla2 work for the nano right now, whenever i install it i get a garbled screen once podzilla actually starts up 18:41 < davidc__> well, download yourself a copy of knoppix 18:41 < MartinJohansson> not so used to it. But i have a few friends who can 18:41 < davidc__> play with it. 18:41 < davidc__> figure out how to use knoppix 18:41 < davidc__> [it runs off a cd, doesn't install] 18:42 < davidc__> then you can restore your ipod 18:42 < MartinJohansson> okey 18:42 < BleuLlama> philip: if that is the result, i'd say "no". 18:42 < philip> hehe 18:42 < BleuLlama> or perhaps "not the way you did it." 18:43 < philip> well, i heard something about a kernel patch 18:43 < philip> so that may be what i need 18:43 < philip> just not sure 18:50 -!- r2d2- [n=fqwfqw@ppp-70-247-91-228.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has quit [] 18:55 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:04 -!- _tomas718 [n=tomas@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 19:04 < _tomas718> hello! my iPod is broke after trying to instlal ipodlinux :( 19:05 < _tomas718> the apple logo just flashes and when i tail dmesg in linux and plug it in, it returns nothing 19:05 < _tomas718> but!! i'm sure it can be fixed 19:05 < _tomas718> so i will try my absolutely best!8 19:05 < _tomas718> does anyone have a clue about what might be wrong 19:05 < frijole> could be lots. try booting in disk mode 19:06 < frijole> !disk 19:06 < _tomas718> !disk 19:06 < _tomas718> i can't even boot the ipod 19:06 < _tomas718> nor shut down 19:07 < _tomas718> just the apple logo flashing..... I've been watching it for along time not.. on and off... on and off.. 19:07 < _tomas718> so sad 19:07 -!- ErUs|brb [n=noneofyo@ACBD6B1B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:07 < _tomas718> anyway 19:07 < _tomas718> I can't detect it anywhere!! 19:08 < ubermensch> well 19:08 < ubermensch> did you install it with ipodlinux being the default, or the normal apple firmware? 19:08 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-147-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:08 < _tomas718> i just took the ipodlinux formware.. 19:09 < ubermensch> what kidn of ipod do you have? 19:09 < _tomas718> nano 19:09 < slowcoder> `disk mode 19:09 < slowcoder> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when 19:09 < slowcoder> the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play 19:10 < frijole> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651 19:10 < _tomas718> wow that's gotta go fast cause it shuts down in 2 seconds 19:10 < frijole> slowcoder: btw gg, i'm excited about the new stuff you're working on 19:10 < slowcoder> frijole: Which of it would that be ? 19:10 < frijole> slowcoder: hotdog 19:10 < slowcoder> Ah 19:11 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-024-115.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:13 < _tomas718> slowcoder: I have no time to perform that cause the apple logo just flashes and won't stop flashing whatever button I press 19:13 < slowcoder> bbl 19:14 < _tomas718> be a nice operator from heaven and help me first : -))))) 19:16 < BleuLlama> he can't help you to press buttons on your ipod. 19:16 < BleuLlama> you're going to have to do that yourself 19:16 < BleuLlama> sounds like the battery is dead, btw. 19:19 < _tomas718> it is fully reloaded 19:19 -!- rockin_u [n=amol@wnn0131.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:19 < _tomas718> i'll try it 19:19 -!- rockin_u [n=amol@wnn0131.wireless.dtu.dk] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:20 < _tomas718> ff+rev three times and center/action + play four times? 19:24 < jepagodo> Try calling customer support 19:28 < _tomas718> YES!!!!!!!!!!!! 19:28 < _tomas718> I GOT INTO A WIERD CONSOLE 19:28 < Lecx> :p 19:28 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 < _tomas718> i have no idea whree to go from here 19:29 < _tomas718> reset just reboots with the same apple logo flashing 19:29 < jepagodo> anyone who knows where to buy a harmonica 19:31 -!- philip [n=philip@c-67-177-53-17.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:32 -!- corgasmer [n=corgasme@57.Red-81-36-134.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < corgasmer> hi people 19:33 < frijole> _tomas718: did you try just holding down the disk mode combo? 19:34 < _tomas718> im in the wrongtest console right now 19:34 < frijole> O.o 19:34 < corgasmer> i was wondering if someone can tell me about, how to really shut down APPLE firmware, cuz it gets, like sleeping 19:34 < _tomas718> but when I am launching the "reset" commando, it just returns to the same screen with the apple logo flashing 19:35 < _tomas718> I also saw "Partion error" 19:35 < _tomas718> and that should be right since I re-partioned it myself 19:35 < frijole> as soon as it resets, as soon as the screen blanks, try to hold the combo before the logo shows up 19:35 < TiKKu^> I've got 4GB 2nd Generation iPod mini, I'm trying to install the supported linux on it, my problem is that when i boot the ipod, it shows this Directory icon with a ! on it, what did i do wrong? Using frimware 1.3 19:35 < BleuLlama> dude. your disk is fucked 19:35 < BleuLlama> (tomas) 19:35 < _tomas718> after the Installation on linux guide on 19:35 < _tomas718> :< 19:35 < BleuLlama> you only get the apple logo, since you screwed up the partition table. 19:35 < _tomas718> yes 19:36 < _tomas718> no wat to reset?? 19:36 < BleuLlama> boot to disk mode and restore using apple's restore tool. 19:36 < _tomas718> way* 19:36 < _tomas718> disk mode is that the colourless console 19:36 < _tomas718> with various tests 19:36 < corgasmer> i was wondering if someone can tell me about, how to really shut down APPLE firmware, cuz it gets, like sleeping 19:36 < BleuLlama> no. that's diagnostic/test mode 19:36 < _tomas718> how do i enter disk mode? 19:37 < BleuLlama> `diskmode 19:37 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from BleuLlama] 19:37 < BleuLlama> corg: that question doesn't make sense 19:37 < _tomas718> ff+rev three times and center + action four times? 19:37 < corgasmer> BleuLlama yes it does, i´ll explain why 19:37 < BleuLlama> what, tomas? 19:37 < corgasmer> BleuLlama i got directly booting linux 19:38 < _tomas718> press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play, does that mean ff+rev three times and center + action four times 19:38 < BleuLlama> tomas: if it's 3rd gen or earlier... etc. 19:38 < _tomas718> is nano that? 19:38 < corgasmer> BleuLlama but, when i reboot into mac firmware, i can´t turn it on for choosing linux, so i have to reboot 19:38 < BleuLlama> nano would be in the 4th gen category 19:38 < _tomas718> how to do in nano then : 19:39 < BleuLlama> IT IS IN THE 4TH GEN CATEGORY. 19:39 < BleuLlama> read the wiki; it explains how to restore a nano, since it's complicated 19:39 < BleuLlama> er. read the forums 19:39 < BleuLlama> corg: whats' the problem? 19:39 < _tomas718> i love you 19:40 < corgasmer> BleuLlama, when i run apple firmware, i have to reboot to access linux one 19:40 < BleuLlama> yes. and? 19:40 < TiKKu^> bah, i hope that i could even get the linux installed 19:40 < corgasmer> but, if the ipod stays long time off, the apple logo displays when gettting started, so i go directly to linux 19:41 < BleuLlama> so reboot and boot appleos. 19:41 < corgasmer> restarting, spends one lifetime of the battery 19:41 < BleuLlama> one lifetime of the battery? 19:41 < corgasmer> one cycle 19:41 < corgasmer> sorry 19:41 < BleuLlama> um. no it doesn't 19:41 < corgasmer> ... 19:42 < corgasmer> so... why after rebooting i got one cycle lesS? 19:42 < BleuLlama> a battery cycle is wearing it down to 0% charge, then charging it back up to full. 19:42 < frijole> unless you have a really really short battery life 19:42 < BleuLlama> where are you seeing the "one cycle less"? 19:42 < corgasmer> so, what´s the meaning of the numbers, i can pun instead off the battery logo? 19:43 < _tomas718> hmm when I perform menu + action, the screen just go blank and when I let go of the buttons it keep on flashing the ipod logo. what does it look like in disk mode? should there be any notifications? 19:43 < BleuLlama> what numbers? 19:43 < corgasmer> BleuLlama 19:43 < corgasmer> Well thanks to recent developments, iPodlinux and Podzilla is now able put your ipod into deep sleep. This is what the Apple firmware does after 36 hours of inactivity. (Before that, the Apple firmware only puts the device in a suspend type mode where the hdd and screen are switched off, but the core is still functuioning.) 19:43 < corgasmer> ejem ejem.. 19:43 < corgasmer> i want to do, that deep sleep in apple firmware 19:44 < BleuLlama> apple firmware does it automatically. 19:44 < frijole> *in* apple firmware? there's no way to enable it directly from the appleos 19:44 < frijole> when you leave it off long enough appleos drops it to the deep sleep 19:44 < BleuLlama> i don't think there's a way to trigger it from appleos 19:44 < corgasmer> i know guys 19:44 < corgasmer> but the problem, is that i got automaticly linux 19:44 < BleuLlama> tomas: get to the diagnostic menu, and select 'disk mode' 19:44 < BleuLlama> then just reboot. 19:44 < BleuLlama> it's not that big a deal 19:45 < BleuLlama> or leave "hold" off. 19:45 < BleuLlama> or use your ipod more, to keep it from going into deep sleep mode 19:45 < corgasmer> that´s not the problem 19:45 < corgasmer> i want it to go to deep sleep 19:45 < BleuLlama> YOU CAN'T TRIGGER THAT FROM APPLE OS 19:45 < corgasmer> i´ll tell ya, where i saw those numbers 19:46 < frijole> then reinstall with a bootloader that automatically boots into appleos instead of linux 19:46 < BleuLlama> you want to keep asking me, cause I can keep answering the same exact way. 19:46 < corgasmer> ... 19:46 < corgasmer> ok 19:46 < BleuLlama> frij: it probably falls into deep sleep mode, he has the hold switch "on" and when it comes back up, it sees that and goes into linux mode instead of retailos 19:46 < corgasmer> sorry men 19:46 < BleuLlama> that's what I'm guessing based on the vague info he's barely saying 19:47 < corgasmer> nope 19:47 < corgasmer> that ´s not what happens 19:47 < imphasing> I think he means 'screen off, hard drive off' sleep, unless he had his pod on for 36 hours 19:47 < corgasmer> but doesn´t matter 19:47 < corgasmer> i thought, that rebooting, just spend one battery cycle 19:48 < corgasmer> and that reduced the lifetime 19:48 < frijole> NO 19:48 < frijole> rebooting does NOT use one cycle 19:48 < BleuLlama> WRONG 19:48 < frijole> period 19:48 < corgasmer> ok 19:48 < corgasmer> that was all 19:48 < BleuLlama> the number might be off, but it didn't do anything chemically to the battery 19:48 * frijole bangs head on desk 19:48 < BleuLlama> ever had a car with a bad fuel gauge? 19:48 < corgasmer> ok ok 19:49 < imphasing> BleuLlama, many... 19:49 < BleuLlama> it sits there all day on "E" even though you know there's a full tank of gas. 19:49 < _tomas718> YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!! OK TO DISCONNECT!!! OK TO LOVE 19:49 < _tomas718> sorry for being a newb.. 19:49 < BleuLlama> well, i wouldn't be annoyed with you if you'd just read the directions 19:50 < _tomas718> :) 19:50 < BleuLlama> let me rephrase 19:50 < BleuLlama> well, i wouldn't be annoyed with you if you'd just read the fucking directions 19:50 < imphasing> BleuLlama, hahahahaha 19:50 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 19:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 19:51 < _tomas718> i'm still happy :) 19:51 -!- _tomas718 [n=tomas@c83-253-101-114.bredband.comhem.se] has quit ["Lämnar"] 19:51 < corgasmer> thx anyway guys 19:51 -!- corgasmer [n=corgasme@57.Red-81-36-134.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 19:51 < BleuLlama> wow. 19:51 < BleuLlama> just... 19:51 < BleuLlama> woo. 19:51 < BleuLlama> wow. 19:51 < BleuLlama> i swear, we need a "how to press buttons" page on the wiki. 19:52 * frijole slides a cold one to BleuLlama 19:52 < frijole> dude 19:52 < frijole> that was crazy man 19:52 < frijole> LOCO 19:55 < Zyrill> there should be a bot asking new lads what the command for hmmm... yeah for listing a directory under unix is and if they don't know they get kicked 19:58 -!- Zyrill [n=zyrill@dslb-084-058-154-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 19:59 < imphasing> I talked to a guy that asked me how to 'warez lunix' 20:00 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-024-115.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 < BleuLlama> heh 20:00 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-055-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- robin_ [n=robin@debian.demon.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 < robin_> Is you can have both Linux and the Apple software on your iPod? 20:12 < courtc> Yes, you can multi-boot 20:13 < robin_> courtc, great, and you can set the default OS ? 20:13 < courtc> yep 20:13 < robin_> courtc: cool. 20:14 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 20:21 < imphasing> anyone good with sh scripting here? 20:22 < BleuLlama> eh 20:22 < imphasing> I need to put every file in a directoy in a seperate variable 20:22 < imphasing> :D 20:23 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@hmw43.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:24 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Who's General Failure & why's he reading my disk?"] 20:29 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < slowcoder> imphasing: How about stating your problem instead of a half-thought-through solution ? 20:30 < TiKKu^> arrrgh! 20:30 < imphasing> that's all I need to do 20:30 < TiKKu^> i cant downgrade my frimware to 1.2 20:30 < imphasing> it's very well thought through 20:31 < slowcoder> imphasing: How will you know how many variables are populated ? 20:31 < imphasing> I know exactly what I need, and I only asked for what I need 20:31 < imphasing> as many files as are in the directory 20:31 < imphasing> it's not like I have a problem, I was just wondering if there's an easy way to do this 20:31 < imphasing> I don't want someone to code something for me 20:32 -!- enkidu [n=Celsius@12-216-247-191.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 < TiKKu^> does someone succesfully downgraded frimware to 1.2 (windows)? 20:32 < slowcoder> Well, I'd use a mixture of find, xargs, expr 20:32 < courtc> use an array. 20:33 < imphasing> slowcoder, ok, thanks 20:33 < courtc> ARRAY! 20:33 < slowcoder> courtc: What's this "array" thing you're talking about? 20:33 < enkidu> Hey, I could use some help with my iPod if anyone isnt busy. 20:33 < imphasing> yeah, I was thinking I would store each filename as an element in an array 20:33 < courtc> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/arrays.html 20:33 < slowcoder> courtc: Never heard of it 20:33 < slowcoder> :) 20:34 < freqmod> Has anyone managed to play video on the nano? (with podzilla cvs) 20:34 < slowcoder> freqmod: Several people 20:35 < enkidu> heh, thats what I was trying to do, or at least get linux 20:35 < robin_> funny, on the forum are dozens of post claiming the installer fucked up their iPod, while others have no probs at all.. 20:35 < TiKKu^> how about downgrading frimware to 1.2? 2nd Generation iPod mini, windows 20:35 < freqmod> hmmm, how, it does not seem to have the right dimensions in the code at all... 20:35 < robin_> (iPod nano) 20:35 < slowcoder> enkidu: If you're not very comfortable with Linux on your PC, don attempt installing on a Nano 20:35 < slowcoder> robin_: The installers _WILL_ fuck up your nano.. *fact* 20:36 < enkidu> a little late now :P I didnt think it was that big of a deal 20:36 < enkidu> and now i'm screwed up 20:36 < robin_> slowcoder: so, what about the ppl claiming it doesn't 20:36 < slowcoder> robin_: n00bs/morons/havent tested to see if it's actually non-fucked 20:37 < robin_> slowcoder: ok :) 20:37 < enkidu> so, is there anything I can do? 20:37 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < robin_> sell your iPod on ebay :P ? 20:37 < courtc> robin_: slowcoder == dev; forum goers == n00bs 20:37 < slowcoder> enkidu: To unfuck it? yea, sure.. There are a couple of threads on the forums that explain how to unfuck it 20:37 < robin_> courtc: ack 20:38 < courtc> you mean ACK? 20:38 < enkidu> okay, I dont think its that fucked really, I just need to get it noticed by my PC so I can flash it 20:38 < robin_> courtc: ok 20:38 < courtc> umm.. ok 20:38 < imphasing> he means 'ACK: Actions Cause Konsequences' 20:39 < courtc> what? I think he meant 'ACKnowledged'. 20:39 < robin_> :) 20:39 < robin_> yes me2 20:39 < imphasing> hm..it's a tossup 20:39 < robin_> last one. 20:39 < imphasing> mine was in jest, however 20:40 < courtc> never can tell. 20:40 < imphasing> that's why we use the unicode symbol: &jest; 20:40 < robin_> doom, does it play smoothly ? 20:40 * courtc not on unicode term. 20:41 < imphasing> robin_, depends on your pod generation 20:41 < robin_> imphasing: nano 20:41 < imphasing> no idea... 20:41 -!- jepagodo [n=jesper@194.18.96.65] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:41 < imphasing> not sure which processor that has 20:41 < robin_> same as video I think. 20:41 < enkidu> so my pod is in disc mode, but I cant get itunes or the formatter or mycomputer to find it 20:41 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["kill -9 irc"] 20:42 < imphasing> I'm fairly certain it has the proc without the 'broken cache' problem, so it should run at like..15fps 20:42 < imphasing> or something like that 20:42 < imphasing> mine only runs at ~8fps 20:42 < robin_> wouldn't it be a good idea, to make a _unsupported_ tutorial on the site ? Instead of dozen of different forum threads, with different outcomes. 20:43 < robin_> for the iPod nano that is. 20:43 < imphasing> might be..go ahead and write that up 20:43 < robin_> imphasing: hmm, well I haven't put Linux on my nano yet :) 20:43 < imphasing> robin_, ah... 20:44 < courtc> not like there aren't enough unsupported tutorials. 20:44 < robin_> I just hate to fuck my nano up.. although everyone claims it can be restored... 20:45 < imphasing> it can 20:45 < robin_> courtc: well one on the website will do.. 20:45 < imphasing> you need some sort of linux though 20:45 < imphasing> not sure if you want to get into that 20:45 < enkidu> ...shit 20:45 < robin_> imphasing: i'm a Linux user, so not a prob. 20:45 < imphasing> robin_, then you're in luck 20:45 < imphasing> :D 20:45 < courtc> not like there aren't enough unsupported tutorials on the wiki. 20:45 < robin_> courtc: :), ok 20:46 < robin_> courtc: when will it be _supported_ ? what is the def of it anyways? 20:46 < imphasing> josh_, is working on getting pz2 working on he nano I think 20:46 < imphasing> so it will probably be supported when pz2 gets stable 20:46 < courtc> we won't give you support if you fuck up. 20:46 -!- satsonic [n=satsonic@220.224.87.76] has joined #ipodlinux 20:46 < satsonic> hello 20:47 < robin_> courtc: of course 20:47 < courtc> imphasing: no. 20:47 < imphasing> robin_, supported mean 'might not fuck your shit up' 20:47 < imphasing> courtc, wha? 20:47 < robin_> imphasing: ok 20:47 < satsonic> my ipod photo shows only 4 kb data in notes folder is there a way view the full file? 20:48 < courtc> supported means just what it says, we'll provide support for it if it's supported. 20:48 < robin_> what is the architecture of the CPU ? Arm? 20:48 < satsonic> except the ipodlinux OS, i am using it. I just want to know if someone has managed to view the full fule in iPod's OS 20:48 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:48 < courtc> yea ARM v4 20:48 < satsonic> hi imphasing 20:48 < imphasing> satsonic, hi 20:48 < robin_> ok I got some experience with PDA prototypes and Linux.. 20:49 < robin_> based on ARM.. 20:49 < robin_> gonna take a look in the source.. 20:49 < courtc> The pp chips have dual ARM7TDMI cores 20:50 < robin_> hmm sf.net again down. 20:51 < BleuLlama> satsonic: no. that's a limitation in appleos 20:51 < satsonic> BleuLlama, oh ok 20:51 < satsonic> but ipodlinux can view full file right? 20:52 < BleuLlama> as long as it's smaller than the available ram, yeah 20:53 < satsonic> ok how much ram ipod has default 20:53 < imphasing> 32mb I think 20:54 < courtc> as long as it's smaller than the largest contiguous block in ram at least. 20:54 < satsonic> i was wondering why only 4k text file reading limit? 20:54 < courtc> Ask apple. 20:54 < BleuLlama> probably because they have a 4mb buffer allocated for that. 20:55 < BleuLlama> 1000 files at 4k apiece. 20:55 < satsonic> :) yeah probably i will send a mail to them 20:55 < BleuLlama> that's their hard-set limit, 20:55 < BleuLlama> they won't be changing it for you. 20:55 < courtc> yuck. 20:55 < BleuLlama> remember, our text viewer doesn't do the html-like links and tags like their notes viewer does. 20:55 < satsonic> they might consider in future release 20:56 < BleuLlama> if they haven't done it by now, i don;t think they will 20:56 < satsonic> ok 20:56 * courtc agrees 20:56 < courtc> Actually... 20:56 -!- MartinJohansson [n=awfewae@e4fc.cust.vannas.net] has quit [] 20:57 < courtc> Maybe if they start using a real kernel. 20:57 < courtc> not likely 20:57 < BleuLlama> yah. 20:59 < satsonic> they might want to show performance, since they allow multitasking so may be they could handle multiple programs efficiently with<= 4kb text file while playing a song for example, and they might not be able to allow to read a full file with song operation or other task. just a guess ! 20:59 < courtc> um. 20:59 < courtc> heh, mol is pretty cool. 21:00 < courtc> I got sick of osx. 21:00 < BleuLlama> i was trying out a nano in the store, and i had something playing i think, and was navigating menus, and the menus weren't sliding at full framerate. 21:01 < BleuLlama> my guess is that they'd want to fix things like that first. 21:01 < satsonic> so nano still needs improvement you mean? 21:01 < robin_> it here a prefered cross compiler to be used? 21:01 < courtc> I guess they're just passing the bar. 21:01 < robin_> *there 21:01 < courtc> `toolchain 21:01 < iplbot> toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. Newer gcc 3.4.3-based toolchain, with locale support, at http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/toolchain/. [from courtc] 21:01 < enkidu> okay sweet. i figured out how to fix my fucked up nano in windows 21:01 < robin_> courtc: ok 21:02 -!- enkidu [n=Celsius@12-216-247-191.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 21:03 < aconole> does iBoy support GBA roms? 21:04 < courtc> no 21:04 < aconole> damn 21:04 < robin_> courtc: the cvs of sf.net contains the latest source ? the changelog isn't updated since 22 nov 2004 21:05 < BleuLlama> oh, i found my notes. start the stopwatch, go back a menu... the menus move sluggishly, just running the stopwatch in the background 21:05 < courtc> Yea, sometimes we aren't so good at updating teh ChangeLog 21:05 < robin_> courtc: ok :) 21:05 < courtc> BleuLlama: wow, that sucks. 21:05 < BleuLlama> yeah, 21:05 < courtc> BleuLlama: busy wait loop for the stopwatch maybe? 21:05 < BleuLlama> there was also a glitch with the menu having an obiwan pixel error, but that wasn't as noticible 21:06 < BleuLlama> perhaps. or just poor multitasking 21:06 < BleuLlama> probably polling-based multitasking or something 21:06 < josh_> what's an obiwan pixel error? 21:06 < BleuLlama> off-by-one 21:06 < josh_> oh haha 21:07 < BleuLlama> go into one menu, go into a submenu, come back, the original menu is shifted down by 1 pixel 21:07 -!- imphasing [n=imphasin@pcp0011342279pcs.prfred01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:07 < courtc> wow.. 21:07 < BleuLlama> http://yorgle.org/l?35 21:07 < courtc> looks like the software devs are getting lazy 21:07 < BleuLlama> documented it there 21:08 < ubermensch> anyone else here try pz2 on their ipod mini yet? 21:08 < satsonic> in ipodlinux we cannot play song and go back to playlist while its playing 21:09 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@hmw43.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:09 < courtc> satsonic: incorrect 21:10 < satsonic> but i am not able to 21:10 < courtc> With pz0 and the in-built decoders you can't/ 21:10 < courtc> With pz0 and MPDc/MPD, you can. 21:11 < satsonic> ok, how do i get that? 21:11 < courtc> `MPD 21:11 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). Unofficial tutorial at http://nanosouffle.net/beta/nanoMod?name=podMPD. [from courtc] 21:12 < freqmod> does anyone have an example nano movie, the movies i generate does give a moving crunk of data:( 21:12 < satsonic> courtc, hey thanks 21:13 < freqmod> using MEncoder dev-CVS-051002-11:44-3.4.3-20050110 & 2bppconv cvs 21:13 -!- enkidu [n=Celsius@12-216-247-191.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:14 < enkidu> okay, if anyone else screws up their nano and they're not able to get it reconized anymore just tell them to uninstall itunes and the ipodupdater, restart the computer and reinstall itunes+ipod updater and it'll format and reset your ipod to factory settings for you. 21:14 < courtc> What a solution. 21:14 < BleuLlama> heh. that's pretty extreme 21:15 < enkidu> Its not that bad really 21:15 < BleuLlama> why not just reinstall windows while you're at it 21:15 * slowcoder thinks reading the wiki in the first place would have been much easier 21:15 < BleuLlama> agreed 21:15 < satsonic> courtc, is there a windows installer available to install MPD, instructions seems to be install from linux 21:15 < BleuLlama> especially since most people have databases already with itunes 21:15 < BleuLlama> that would blow away everything. 21:15 < enkidu> export it 21:15 < satsonic> hi slowcoder 21:15 < courtc> satsonic: there isn't. 21:15 < slowcoder> satsonic 21:15 < enkidu> two clicks and it'll output your database to an xml file you can load back 21:16 < enkidu> i couldnt find another way to fix it, and this worked, so whatever 21:16 < satsonic> so i have to boot into linux to install MPD right? 21:16 < BleuLlama> okay. you're on the hook to support that method though. the first person that loses all of their music and settings is on your back. 21:16 < enkidu> the wiki is a little confusing because it says a million different things, and people are screwing up, so its nice to be able to fix it 21:17 < enkidu> export the database and its fine 21:17 < courtc> satsonic: You don't have to, but I won't walk you through how to do it on windows. 21:17 < enkidu> it helps to have your ipod cd because it'll install itunes and the updater quickly 21:17 < satsonic> courtc, ok 21:17 < BleuLlama> there are better ways to do it, anyway. 21:17 < satsonic> courtc, any workarounds 21:18 < enkidu> what are they? 21:18 < courtc> satsonic: Hint: lots of 'start' file mangling. 21:19 -!- rbz [n=bizzle@adsl-155-180-39.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:19 < satsonic> hmm.. 21:19 < enkidu> i dont get all the attitude here, i mean its not like we're competing for methods or whatever, I didnt make it up i read it on the forums after searching for a while, but it almost seems like you guys take a bit of enjoyment off of people screwing up their pods 21:20 -!- enkidu [n=Celsius@12-216-247-191.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 21:20 < courtc> heh 21:20 < BleuLlama> hrm. 21:20 < BleuLlama> i guess i kinda do 21:20 < BleuLlama> but then again, it's more of a fascination 21:20 < BleuLlama> lack of reading the documentation, etc. 21:20 * BleuLlama shrugs 21:20 * BleuLlama goes back to playing Planarity 21:20 < satsonic> i have cygwin can i use that set it up? 21:20 < courtc> I take enjoyment from people who blame us for not being able to read. 21:21 < BleuLlama> hehe 21:21 < courtc> satsonic: you don't even need that. 21:21 < BleuLlama> i love the people that come in and give a play-by-play of everything they're doing, as if it helps them. 21:21 < BleuLlama> heh 21:21 * BleuLlama afk. have to pee. 21:22 < satsonic> ok 21:22 -!- salgado [n=salgado@201-13-106-123.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:22 * freqmod did finally get video on the nano :) jippie 21:23 < freqmod> but i had to code the movide smaller than the variables on the wiki 21:25 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-055-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:26 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < ubermensch> whoa 21:26 < TiKKu^> im getting so pissed off! 21:26 < TiKKu^> cant downgrade the frimware to 1.2 21:26 < TiKKu^> on 2G ipod mini 21:27 < ubermensch> i found a mountpod.err in my / dir on my mini running pz2 21:27 < ubermensch> and inside it it says "mount: Could not find a spare loop device 21:27 < ubermensch> " 21:28 < josh_> ubermensch: you need a new busybox 21:28 < josh_> make sure you have everything listed at the bottom of ~[wiki Podzilla] 21:28 < iplbot> Podzilla (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla) [4253 bytes] 21:28 < ubermensch> i used the one in www.ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 21:28 < josh_> I *just* fixed that problem wrt busybox. 21:28 < ubermensch> ahh alright 21:28 < ubermensch> cool thanks 21:28 < josh_> also, are you using the kernel linked there? 21:29 < josh_> right now, it still sounds like a contrast problem - if you don't want to mess with the contrast manually, 21:29 < josh_> svn co http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools/pzconf 21:29 < josh_> cd pzconf 21:29 < josh_> make 21:30 < josh_> ./pzconf /mnt/ipod/etc/podzilla/podzilla.conf -w 0= 21:30 < josh_> where is a number between 0 and 128 - 96 is the default, higher numbers are darker. 21:30 < satsonic> hi josh_ 21:30 < josh_> hi satsonic 21:30 -!- philhans [n=philip@byu293264wks.byu.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:30 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd1b4.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 21:32 -!- markitoxs [n=markitox@57.Red-81-36-134.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 < markitoxs> hi people.. 21:32 < markitoxs> just want to say, that the site seems to be down 21:32 < satsonic> i was trying to install ms office from ipod but while upgrading to outlook it thrown error and i copied ms-office from ipod to hard disk then upgraded ms-office to outllook and it worked when shown required files on hard disk, how come? 21:32 < ubermensch> it's not a contrast problem, because i can manage to navigate to the contrast change menu and change it like normal, but all it does is change the screen from completely white to completely black 21:32 < markitoxs> Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /www/ipodlinux.org/includes/ObjectCache.php on line 409 21:33 < courtc> if ($ip == 57.Red-81-36-134.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) throw_error(); 21:34 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 21:36 < markitoxs> solved 21:42 < markitoxs> mmm 21:42 < markitoxs> anyone there? 21:42 < markitoxs> got some problem with the rc file i think.. 21:42 < markitoxs> i followes the power_off guide 21:43 < markitoxs> and now.. don't got anymore that rc file 21:43 -!- StevenX [n=StevenX@wireless-219-136.uchicago.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < TiKKu^> btw, since 2G iPod mini is not supported, which installer should i use for that? 21:44 < markitoxs> and i also got No more task for init -- Sleeping forever 21:45 < markitoxs> and i haven't got neither busybox file 21:45 < markitoxs> in /bin 21:47 < markitoxs> any ideas on how to solve that? 21:48 < ubermensch> well 21:48 < ubermensch> put them back 21:48 < markitoxs> lol 21:48 < markitoxs> but, i donñ t have rc file 21:48 < ubermensch> remake it 21:48 < markitoxs> mmm 21:48 < ubermensch> just copy one of the ones in the installation guides 21:49 < markitoxs> they don't work at least for me 21:49 < ubermensch> well 21:49 < markitoxs> yesterday i made one 21:49 < markitoxs> from a site they told me.. 21:49 < ubermensch> for me at least 21:49 < markitoxs> i'm gonna try again 21:49 < TiKKu^> Could someone please tell me which installer i should use for 2nd Generation iPod mini windows formated? :-) 21:49 < ubermensch> to get the poweroff guide to work 21:50 < ubermensch> i had to change the inittab 21:50 < markitoxs> mmm 21:50 < markitoxs> that's what i thought.. 21:50 < ubermensch> and take out the pz:unknown::/sbin/podzilla 21:50 < ubermensch> and put podzilla at the bottom of rc 21:50 < markitoxs> mmmmmmm 21:50 < markitoxs> i already had 21:50 < markitoxs> at the end 21:50 < markitoxs> /sbin/podzilla 21:50 < markitoxs> of the rc file 21:50 < markitoxs> so i just changed the inittab 21:51 < TiKKu^> ... :-/ 21:51 -!- satsonic [n=satsonic@220.224.87.76] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:51 < markitoxs> and rebooted, and hopla! 21:51 < markitoxs> now, no loading 21:51 < markitoxs> lol 21:51 < markitoxs> got that error 21:51 < markitoxs> and rc file has disappeared 21:51 < markitoxs> also the busybox 21:51 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, let me see 21:52 < markitoxs> have you read the site? 21:52 < TiKKu^> i've tried to find 21:52 < TiKKu^> what i have read is that 2G mini is unsupported, right? 21:53 < markitoxs> the page doesn't go (again) at least for me 21:53 < markitoxs> ah 2g mini 21:53 < TiKKu^> (if i'm correct) 21:53 < markitoxs> i think nop 21:53 < ubermensch> i have a 2g mini 21:53 < ubermensch> works for me 21:53 < ubermensch> but 21:53 < TiKKu^> but? 21:53 < ubermensch> i didn't use the installer 21:53 < TiKKu^> how then? 21:53 < markitoxs> but i think, you can't do it with the installer right? 21:53 < TiKKu^> and did you do it on mac? 21:53 < ubermensch> nah, linux 21:53 < TiKKu^> because i've got windows ;/ 21:54 < markitoxs> i recently read on the forums 21:54 < markitoxs> that they made a windows installer for nano 21:55 < TiKKu^> but not for 2G mini? 21:55 < markitoxs> nope 21:55 < markitoxs> but i think that one might work 21:55 < ubermensch> i have no idea how any of this stuff works on the windows front 21:55 < markitoxs> me neither 21:55 < ubermensch> i'd say get a knoppix live cd, and isntall from there... 21:56 < ubermensch> =) 21:56 < markitoxs> yep 21:56 < markitoxs> or ubuntu 21:56 < markitoxs> :D 21:56 < TiKKu^> ah live cd 21:56 < TiKKu^> i can run it in windows? 21:56 < ubermensch> nope 21:56 < TiKKu^> ah 21:56 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 21:56 < TiKKu^> ofc 21:56 < ubermensch> gotta boot into it 21:56 < TiKKu^> i've boot into it 21:56 < TiKKu^> yeh 21:56 < TiKKu^> hmm 21:56 < BHSPitMonkey> TiKKu^: what's your first language? 21:56 < TiKKu^> if that's what it takes, i'm ready to try 21:57 < ubermensch> might be a little overwhelming if you don't already know how linux works though.. 21:57 < TiKKu^> BHSPitMonkey: finnish 21:57 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 21:57 < TiKKu^> and second language should be swedish, but i'm much better at english 21:57 < TiKKu^> ubermensch: i've got ubuntu earlier 21:57 < TiKKu^> but i'm not a guru :-P 21:58 < markitoxs> the only time i tried with windows, it wrote something strange in the partition table 21:58 < markitoxs> that's the reason i think, why it won't go in mini 2g 21:58 < markitoxs> it should do something similar 21:59 < markitoxs> BHSPitMonkey, i got a question, about video compression 22:00 < markitoxs> i got a simpson 20 min episode, that is 1gig big! 22:00 < markitoxs> thatÅ› normal? 22:00 < ubermensch> Tikku^ if you can manage to back on the irc channel while on ubuntu, then we can help you 22:01 < markitoxs> sure! 22:01 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, just open on Apps>Internet > Xchat 22:02 < ubermensch> well, that's assuming that his nic driver can be automagically loaded and internet settings properly set 22:02 < markitoxs> i'll guess yes 22:02 < markitoxs> ubuntu! 22:02 < ubermensch> heheh 22:02 < BleuLlama> if he can handle that, then he can handle installing linux to his ipod. 22:02 < BleuLlama> it's a good litmus test. ;) 22:02 < markitoxs> lol 22:03 < ubermensch> =) 22:03 < markitoxs> what do you think about my video size question? 22:03 < ubermensch> it's uncompressed 22:03 < ubermensch> so yeah 22:03 < markitoxs> it's giant 22:03 < ubermensch> that's probably right 22:03 < BleuLlama> sounds feasable. sure. 22:03 < markitoxs> and it's in nano resolution.. 22:03 < markitoxs> never thought it would be SO much 22:04 < ubermensch> hehe god bless divx, eh? 22:04 < markitoxs> but it is video on the nano!!!!!! 22:04 < markitoxs> yep, sure, divz is great, but you ahve to realise that you are playing video on something not designed to! 22:05 < markitoxs> it's like, having... video on your watch! 22:05 < markitoxs> 1 gig of uncompressed avi.. is reasonable if you can have all your friends flipping around your nano 22:07 -!- MartinJohansson [n=awfewae@e4fc.cust.vannas.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 < ubermensch> damn, the ipl server gets taxed so much 22:07 < ubermensch> i'm always having trouble getting on 22:09 < BleuLlama> well, 22:09 < BleuLlama> that's better than having trouble getting off. 22:09 < ubermensch> hah 22:09 < ubermensch> so poignant 22:10 < TiKKu^> YESS! 22:10 < TiKKu^> I DID IT! 22:10 < TiKKu^> WOHOO HALLELUUUJAAA!!! (sorry for caps) 22:10 < markitoxs> =) 22:10 < markitoxs> how? 22:11 < TiKKu^> http://blogtuts.gameportalonline.com/?p=8 22:11 < TiKKu^> with that tuto 22:11 < TiKKu^> modded installer ^^ 22:12 < TiKKu^> omg my friends are going to be so stunned :D 22:12 < markitoxs> NERD SKILL REQUIRED: 7/10 22:12 < markitoxs> by: Alex Harris 22:12 < markitoxs> lol 22:15 < TiKKu^> :D 22:15 -!- freqmod [n=freqmod@147.80-203-70.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:15 < TiKKu^> i would say, skill required 1/10 22:15 < TiKKu^> or.. maybe i'm nerd 22:16 < markitoxs> ok 22:16 < markitoxs> let's try to solve this 22:16 < BHSPitMonkey> why did you ask ME? 22:16 < markitoxs> inte:unknown:/bin/inetd 22:16 < markitoxs> no more tasks for init 22:16 < markitoxs> --- sleeping forever 22:17 < MartinJohansson> I have instaled wrog version on my ipod (wasn´t really paying attencion :P). I have a G4 (nano) and the program i instaled doesn´t support it. Im unabel to reset my ipod through Ipod uppdate. So i need to get linux or? 22:17 < courtc> omg. 22:17 < markitoxs> MartinJohansson, you need to force disk mode 22:17 < markitoxs> and restore 22:17 < markitoxs> with apple restorer 22:17 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 22:17 < markitoxs> and yes, you need nano 22:18 -!- qdot [n=kwant@NETTEON.MIT.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 22:18 < markitoxs> linux 22:18 < ubermensch> josh_ : i did what you said (about changing the default contrast to something a bit higher, updating kernel and busybox) and now when it boots, it does the same thing.....just the blank screen is a bit darker =) 22:18 < MartinJohansson> it dosen´t work. disk mode works, and i got the drivers. but iPod Uppdate crashes all the time 22:19 < markitoxs> crashes? 22:19 < TiKKu^> brb 22:19 -!- TiKKu` [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 22:20 < TiKKu`> woops clone 22:20 < MartinJohansson> yeah, and my comp cant find my ipod (got windows xp) 22:20 -!- TiKKu` [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 -!- courtc changed the topic of #ipodlinux to: http://ipodlinux.org || Nightly builds: http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ || 4G ipods and above are currently UNSUPPORTED so don't ask || Please ask before PMing || When asking for help, please first state the iPod generation, and the OS you are using. || Yes, you screwed up your nano; apparently you can't read. 22:20 < TiKKu^> maybe installing the frimware again could do something good 22:21 < TiKKu^> this helped for me when i truly screwed up with my mini 2nd G 22:21 < TiKKu^> first i formated the mini with windows command line 22:21 < markitoxs> mmm 22:21 < TiKKu^> and then i installed the drivers from the cd which came along 22:21 < TiKKu^> (not sure if it works for another iPods) 22:22 < markitoxs> i got all my inittab lines with an error 22:22 < TiKKu^> well, in linux it is always different thing 22:22 < MartinJohansson> okey, how to reset thorugh commmand line? 22:23 < MartinJohansson> (I have windows xp) 22:23 < markitoxs> MartinJohansson, cuz i think you probably have changed the partition table 22:23 < MartinJohansson> thats possible 22:23 < markitoxs> so do a dd of= 22:23 < markitoxs> i think it's not possible 22:23 < TiKKu^> format F:\ (assuming F:\ is the mounting point of your iPod) 22:23 < TiKKu^> or does your windows even see the iPod? 22:23 < TiKKu^> if it doesen't it's different thing 22:24 -!- BHSPitLappy [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 -!- puremourning [n=pure@cpc3-woki4-4-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:24 -!- puremourning [n=pure@cpc3-woki4-4-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 < markitoxs> anyone got any idea for my inittad problem? 22:26 < MartinJohansson> tikku, i have tried that. it did´t work :( 22:26 < TiKKu^> too bad :( 22:26 < ubermensch> markitoxs 22:26 < markitoxs> yes? 22:26 < ubermensch> do you stil not have an rc file? 22:26 < markitoxs> yes 22:26 < markitoxs> i got it 22:26 < markitoxs> but, the problem 22:26 < markitoxs> is that there should be something else wrong 22:26 < ubermensch> well 22:27 < ubermensch> you're getting a 'Nothing left to......... forever' message? 22:27 < markitoxs> i'm getting 22:27 < markitoxs> sleeping forever, but before that i can see, bad inittab line 22:27 < ubermensch> i'll be willing to bet you forgot to chmod +x podzilla 22:27 < markitoxs> and there are both exactly as in the guide 22:27 < ubermensch> or chmod +x busybox 22:27 < markitoxs> i haven't touched podzilla 22:27 < markitoxs> mmm 22:28 < markitoxs> busybox.. 22:28 < markitoxs> let me check 22:28 < markitoxs> but i think i didi it 22:28 < ubermensch> ls -l | grep r-- 22:29 < ubermensch> in your /bin/ or /sbin/ dir 22:29 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h216n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < markitoxs> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 262456 2005-07-16 21:29 busybox 22:29 < markitoxs> it gots the permissions 22:30 < markitoxs> markitoxs@ubuntu:/media/usbdisk/bin$ ls -l | grep r-- 22:30 < markitoxs> -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 316648 2004-04-03 19:08 podzilla.old 22:30 < ubermensch> hmm 22:30 < markitoxs> strange 22:30 < ubermensch> one sec 22:31 < markitoxs> the point is ... why it says those lines are bad? 22:31 < markitoxs> the lines are: 22:31 < markitoxs> inet:unknown:/bin/inetd 22:31 < markitoxs> pz:unknown:/bin/podzilla 22:32 < courtc> markitoxs: did you read the howto? 22:32 < markitoxs> mmm 22:32 < ubermensch> you don't need pz:unkown* if you have podzilla at the end of your rc 22:32 < markitoxs> i forgot something stupid? 22:32 < markitoxs> mmmmmm 22:32 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 < markitoxs> courtc, you mean the power-off? 22:34 < courtc> yes. 22:34 < ubermensch> i keep a "dmesg > /log.txt" line in my rc file so that i have something to study should something happen 22:34 < markitoxs> let me check what i've missedf 22:34 < courtc> That is what you are doing, correct? 22:34 < courtc> "now in the rc script you want to add #!/bin/sh as the first line and add podzilla as the last line 22:34 < courtc> then you want to edit your /etc/inittab to have ::sysinit:/etc/rc as the first line" 22:34 < markitoxs> yes 22:34 < markitoxs> that whatÅ› i did 22:34 < markitoxs> i rebooted, and then.. 22:34 < markitoxs> no rc file 22:34 < markitoxs> and everythibng messed 22:35 < courtc> remove the other lines in your inittab, make sure the rc is executable. 22:35 < ubermensch> ah yeah, did you chmod +x rc ? 22:36 < markitoxs> yes 22:36 < markitoxs> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 639 2005-11-17 23:35 rc 22:36 < markitoxs> so in inittab only one line 22:37 < TiKKu^> my pozilla finds nothing at the music thing 22:37 < markitoxs> rc is executable 22:37 < TiKKu^> how can this be fixed? 22:37 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, did you made the link for itunes db? 22:37 < ubermensch> dunno how to do in in windows 22:37 < TiKKu^> it would be annoying to just choose the song from the file browser 22:37 < TiKKu^> markitoxs: how can i do that? 22:37 < TiKKu^> ah 22:37 < ubermensch> you need the 'ln' command 22:37 < TiKKu^> :/ 22:38 < markitoxs> ln -s /mnt/iPod_Control /iPod_Control 22:38 < TiKKu^> you dont have the config? 22:38 < ubermensch> i guess in windows you're not able to alter anything in the linux fs? 22:39 < markitoxs> nope, no? 22:39 < TiKKu^> no 22:39 < markitoxs> ey, got working that again! 22:39 < ubermensch> ubuntu time =) 22:39 < TiKKu^> markitoxs: i was thinking if i can just insert the config file in the linux file system 22:39 < TiKKu^> in my ipod 22:39 < markitoxs> and seem to shut down 22:39 < ubermensch> wait 22:40 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, how if you donñ t see the linux filesystem? 22:40 < ubermensch> how are you able to insert the config if you can't alter anything on the fs? 22:41 < TiKKu^> ah ofc 22:42 < TiKKu^> and pozilla doesen't have text-editor? 22:42 < TiKKu^> or can it be installed? 22:42 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h118n15c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:42 < ubermensch> it can be installed 22:42 < TiKKu^> would that do it? 22:42 < ubermensch> pretty sure they have vi for it 22:42 < markitoxs> keyboard with cleek wheel? 22:42 < TiKKu^> aye 22:42 < ubermensch> buuuut 22:42 < markitoxs> that should be horrible! 22:42 < markitoxs> lol 22:42 < ubermensch> to install it 22:42 < TiKKu^> :D 22:43 < ubermensch> wat 22:43 < ubermensch> wait 22:43 < TiKKu^> but does the pozilla go in with root access? 22:43 < markitoxs> let's search iBOy and some gb roms!!! 22:43 < ubermensch> how does windows set up your ipod? 22:43 < ubermensch> the windows installer* 22:43 < TiKKu^> what do you mean? 22:43 < ubermensch> if you go to power -> quit > does it take you to the shell, or does podzilla come right back up? 22:43 < TiKKu^> hmm 22:43 < TiKKu^> wait a sec ill try 22:44 < TiKKu^> it comes to shell 22:44 < ubermensch> type in ln 22:45 < TiKKu^> hehe.. how do i type letters in this? :P 22:45 < markitoxs> yep, got the same question.. 22:46 < ubermensch> hmm i thought you could just by using the scroll wheel 22:46 < BHSPitMonkey> you don't. 22:46 < markitoxs> nope 22:46 < markitoxs> scrolling left, does an l 22:46 < ubermensch> yeah 22:46 < BleuLlama> depending on what shell you have installed 22:46 < TiKKu^> "d w m f l r" nothing else 22:46 < ubermensch> well damn 22:46 < markitoxs> scrolling right an r 22:46 < ubermensch> you could try installing floydzilla =) 22:46 < courtc> \n 22:46 < josh_> TiKKu^: with a bit of experimentation, you'll find that `h' and `ENTER' also can be made 22:47 < markitoxs> what frequency goes this ARM? 22:47 < ubermensch> 75? 22:47 < markitoxs> on nano 22:47 < josh_> 75MHz 22:47 < markitoxs> interesting 22:47 < ubermensch> speed demon 22:47 < TiKKu^> lock does h 22:47 < markitoxs> gameboy used to do 4 mhz 22:48 < TiKKu^> ubermensch: is floydzilla better? 22:48 < ubermensch> original? i thought it was only 1 22:48 < markitoxs> ubermensch, i thought it was 4 22:48 < ubermensch> nah, not better, but it has scroll wheel run commands =) 22:48 < ubermensch> don't think so...... even snes was only 3.5.... 22:48 < markitoxs> google should have the answer 22:48 < TiKKu^> ubermensch: so if i set up the link in floydzilla, it can be used in podzilla? 22:49 < markitoxs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy 22:49 < TiKKu^> starting to sound like i will dl the live-dvd 22:49 < markitoxs> CPU 22:49 < markitoxs> Custom 8-bit Sharp Z80 at 4.194304 MHz (has a slightly different instruction set than a standard Z80, and integrated sound generation) 22:50 < BleuLlama> it's "Z80" has an "extended subset" of standard Z80 opcodes 22:50 < markitoxs> # Core 22:50 < markitoxs> # CPU: Nintendo custom '5A22', believed to be produced by Ricoh; based around a 16-bit CMD/GTE 65c816 (a predecessor of the WDC 65C816) with NES sound 2a03 core. The CPU runs the 65c816-alike core with a variable-speed bus, with bus access times determined by addresses accessed, with possible clock speeds of 1.79, 2.68 and 3.58 MHz (the chip usually ran at 2.68 MHz and seemed to drop to 1.79 MHz when loading from ROM.) 22:51 < ubermensch> ahh ok 22:51 < markitoxs> cool 22:51 < markitoxs> :D 22:53 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < markitoxs> wo 22:53 < markitoxs> can't find zelda rom.. 22:54 < markitoxs> either mario bros 22:54 < BleuLlama> take the rom discussion elsewhere 22:54 < markitoxs> ok, sorry 22:54 < markitoxs> just was a remark 22:54 < markitoxs> sorrry 22:58 < TiKKu^> about the live-cd, should i just burn the .iso or should i extract it into my hdd and then burn those files..? 22:58 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:58 < StevenX> TiKKu^, burn the .sio 22:58 < StevenX> iso* 22:58 < markitoxs> burn the iso 22:58 -!- DDustin [n=ddustin@71.141.147.65] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 < markitoxs> and boot from cd 22:59 < StevenX> and then insert the cd, and linux live should start running 22:59 < preglow> can anyone tell me what a backslash in front of a symbol means in arm assembler? 22:59 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 < josh_> preglow: argument to a macro 22:59 < DylanRE> hello 22:59 < preglow> josh_: right, thanks 23:00 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-147-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["jezz rundumerneuert -> #lw-rulez und http://www.lw-rulez.de.vu"] 23:01 -!- DylanRE [n=dsl@adsl-69-154-23-220.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:01 -!- MartyLinerd [n=mbeekman@192-208.kabel.internl.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 < MartyLinerd> Is there a channel where I can ask questions about gtkpod? 23:04 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 23:04 < TiKKu^> dunno, but i guess people over here knows about it. 23:05 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 23:06 -!- rbz [n=bizzle@adsl-219-226-173.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 < rbz> i didnt screw up my nano... :( 23:07 < markitoxs> does busybox shutting down fixing, make disk mode (in linux) don't work? 23:07 < markitoxs> coz, i only get restarting when i click on go to disk mode 23:07 -!- Vanquish1r [n=vanquish@208-58-242-156.s156.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:08 < rbz> disk mode is not in ipl yet 23:08 < rbz> hence why it reboots and sends you to apple fw 23:08 < rbz> and then it goes into disk mode 23:08 < markitoxs> rbz, but before fizing the sutting down, i could go directly to the disk mode, kind of forcing disk mode, without entering apple fw 23:09 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 -!- Vanquisher [n=vanquish@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:09 < rbz> you mean "play+center" right? 23:09 -!- Vanquish1r is now known as Vanquisher 23:09 < markitoxs> nnonono 23:09 < markitoxs> i plugged 23:09 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 23:09 < markitoxs> the cable 23:09 < markitoxs> and said: usb plugged, go to disk mode? 23:10 < markitoxs> and just clicked yes 23:10 < markitoxs> and automaticly, ipod went to disk mode 23:10 < rbz> news to me 23:10 < rbz> what builds are you working with? 23:11 < markitoxs> latest 23:11 < markitoxs> :D 23:12 < rbz> hmmm 23:12 < markitoxs> maybe you should update 23:12 < markitoxs> :P 23:12 < rbz> i have the latest as well 23:13 < markitoxs> :O 23:13 -!- MartinJohansson [n=awfewae@e4fc.cust.vannas.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:15 < markitoxs> strange 23:20 < Zedle> uhh.. what happened to ttk from svn 23:20 < Zedle> just updated 23:20 < Zedle> lots of errors.. someone working on it? 23:27 -!- MartyLinerd [n=mbeekman@192-208.kabel.internl.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:27 < TiKKu^> how do i setup the link to itunesdb when i go to live cd 23:27 < TiKKu^> how do i get my iPod mounted in the first place? 23:28 < TiKKu^> do i need to install new software? 23:28 < TiKKu^> or freeware whatever 23:28 < markitoxs> ey guys, a stupid question 23:28 < markitoxs> i got an exe 23:29 < markitoxs> that neeeds an argument 23:29 < famous`sleep> lol 23:29 < markitoxs> so, i tried to do, a file, with name_of_exe argument 23:29 < markitoxs> and chmod +x to that file 23:29 < markitoxs> but, when i try to run it, podzilla shows me the text 23:30 < markitoxs> instead of running name_of_exe argument 23:30 < TiKKu^> markitoxs: can you answer me, please? :-) 23:30 < markitoxs> ups 23:30 < markitoxs> sorry 23:30 < markitoxs> didin see irt 23:30 < TiKKu^> ^.^ 23:30 < TiKKu^> no problem 23:31 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 23:31 < markitoxs> Note: To make the iTunesDB parser work (so that you can browse your mp3s) you need to make a symbolic link from /iPod_Control to /mnt/iPod_Control. You can do this simply by adding the following line to /etc/rc after the 'mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda3 /' line: 23:31 < markitoxs> ln -s /mnt/iPod_Control /iPod_Control 23:32 < TiKKu^> ok 23:32 < markitoxs> anyone for my stupid question? 23:33 < aegray> i dunno about that 23:33 < markitoxs> should i try ./name_of_exe argument? 23:33 < aegray> wtf does that mean? 23:33 < markitoxs> aegray, it's for the iboy 23:33 < markitoxs> only old photo iboy seems to run on nano 23:33 < markitoxs> but hasn't got rom selector 23:34 < markitoxs> so, it must be pointed as argument 23:34 < markitoxs> but no keyboard here.. 23:34 < markitoxs> so i tried, a file , that run with the rom 23:34 < markitoxs> iboy mario 23:34 < markitoxs> for example 23:34 < markitoxs> i dunno really how to make that 23:35 < TiKKu^> and markitoxs, one more question, how can i get the iPod visible on live cd version of ubuntu? 23:35 < markitoxs> ouch 23:35 < markitoxs> sure 23:35 < markitoxs> TiKKu^, make it go to disk mode 23:35 < markitoxs> sorry, just forgot that 23:35 < markitoxs> will mount automaticly on /media/usbdisk 23:36 < TiKKu^> ok :> 23:36 < TiKKu^> ill go try my luck -> 23:36 -!- TiKKu^ [i=tikku@a81-197-31-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["If I want your opinion, I'll ask you to fill out the necessary forms."] 23:37 < markitoxs> aegray, any suggestion? 23:37 < aegray> make scripts 23:37 < aegray> playgameboy.sh 23:37 < aegray> #!/bin/sh 23:37 < aegray> /iboy mario.rom 23:37 < markitoxs> ok 23:37 < markitoxs> .sh must be 23:37 < markitoxs> fine 23:37 < aegray> i dunno 23:38 < markitoxs> or ./iboy? 23:38 < aegray> whatever the path is to the executable 23:38 < markitoxs> oks 23:38 < markitoxs> cool 23:41 < markitoxs> forgot #!/bin/sh 23:41 < aegray> and chmod +x 23:41 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:41 < markitoxs> yep 23:41 < markitoxs> it was already 23:41 < markitoxs> thx 23:42 < markitoxs> still got the text file 23:42 < markitoxs> must rename to .sh? 23:42 < aegray> yea i guess 23:42 < markitoxs> pdozilla should associate it then 23:44 -!- kantlivelong [n=kantlive@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 23:44 < markitoxs> script works 23:44 < markitoxs> but not iboy 23:44 < markitoxs> but thx 23:44 < markitoxs> at least i learned how to make that scripts 23:45 < markitoxs> got 23:45 < markitoxs> sheel involed to run f.. 23:45 < aegray> fbgnuboy maybe 23:48 < markitoxs> mmm 23:48 < markitoxs> think doesn't work on nano 23:48 < preglow> can anyone tip me off on a linux app i can use to transfer music to my ipod? 23:48 < aegray> gtkpod 23:54 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:55 < BHSPitMonkey> amarok 23:56 -!- Paul_The_Nerd [n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < aegray> good name --- Log closed Fri Nov 18 00:00:00 2005