--- Log opened Wed Nov 02 00:00:01 2005 00:00 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:02 -!- dsh-1 [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:02 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 00:10 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:14 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:14 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h141n2c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:16 -!- k0rnz [n=k0rnz@c-24-21-23-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:23 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:23 < Zol> hey 00:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:24 < k0rnz> Zol: did you get your Nano working with podzilla? 00:25 < Zol> er 00:25 < Zol> i have a 4g newer lcd color 00:25 < Zol> i shall now dub these 4g x004s 00:38 < Zol> and yes i ddi 00:38 < Zol> *did 00:40 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h70n3c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 < Kurcz> how can i change my date in command line? 00:43 < Bi-noix> man date 00:45 -!- toti_ [n=toti@adsl3-109-67.du.simnet.is] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:45 -!- k0rnz [n=k0rnz@c-24-21-23-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:48 < Kurcz> i dont understand any of that 00:57 < Capso> Guess you're out of luck. 00:58 < Capso> You know, it can be found in other Languages. 00:58 < Nappers> kurcz: date -s "hh:mm:ss MM/DD/YYYY" will set a date but I've just noticed that sash doesn't have ':' in it's charlist so it won't work at the moment... hwclock -s will set the date from the hardware clock which you shoul dbe able to set in apple os 00:59 < Nappers> hmm, :s is : s without the space 00:59 < Capso> Kurcz: 'ntpdate' might also be of interest. 00:59 < Capso> Kurcz: Which'll update your clock from a remote Server. 00:59 -!- Raim [n=Raim@p5493CABA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:11 -!- normalperson [i=normalpe@hand.yhbt.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < courtc> normalperson! 01:12 < normalperson> courtc! 01:13 < normalperson> I ought to upgrade my Podzilla sometime 01:13 < normalperson> haven't changed any software on my ipod since July 01:15 < normalperson> you guys do anything with mpd I'd be interested in? 01:15 < courtc> no.. 01:15 < normalperson> I haven't done much 01:15 -!- underdog [i=amedeiro@81.84.154.1] has joined #ipodlinux 01:16 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:16 < underdog> guys, I know this might be the wrong place, but is there any chance the motorola itunes phone is supported on linux? 01:17 < courtc> underdog: Not to my knowledge. 01:19 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 < courtc> normalperson: we were having problems figuring out how to deal with the video player and other apps which require memory that the mpd buffer occupies. 01:22 < lucaas> if i use a nightly kernel, should i use the modules from uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.tar.gz? 01:23 < courtc> lucaas: what gen.. 01:23 < courtc> ? 01:23 < normalperson> courtc: simple, stop and kill mpd when you run the video player 01:23 < lucaas> 4g, b&w 01:23 < courtc> normalperson: umm.. yea.. simple... 01:23 < courtc> lucaas: you don't need modules, just leave 'em out 01:23 < normalperson> mpd has a state file, so when you restart it'll be playing the same thing it was playing when it was stopped 01:23 < lucaas> oh, ok :) 01:24 < courtc> if you set up the state file.. 01:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:24 < courtc> but you have to stop and start mpd? That seems a little drastic.. 01:24 < lucaas> okay, any wiki page or anything i can look at? 01:24 < normalperson> courtc: no it's not 01:25 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:25 < BHSPitLappy> normalperson, have you done this on your own device? 01:25 < normalperson> courtc: putting in hacks to have mpd free all the memory while keeping the rest of the application happy is far mor hackish 01:25 < normalperson> BHSPitLappy: done what? 01:26 < normalperson> start and stop mpd? yes 01:26 < BHSPitLappy> i mean applied it to a good use 01:26 < BHSPitLappy> like the video player 01:26 < normalperson> BHSPitLappy: 3rd gen user here, I only listen to music on my ipod 01:26 < Capso> Normalperson: The point of "hackish" is to get it to work right... having to start and stop repeatedly is not a good measure. 01:27 < normalperson> (with mpd, of course) 01:27 < Capso> "Right" being in the desired manner. 01:27 < lucaas> courtc, anywhere can see how to set up the state file? 01:27 < lucaas> +I 01:27 < courtc> lucaas: what? get iPodlinux runnung first, then worry about that, It's clearly outlined on mpd's wiki. 01:28 < courtc> running* 01:28 < lucaas> oh, you werent talking to me? 01:28 < courtc> no. 01:28 < lucaas> ah, sorry, missunderstanding 01:28 < lucaas> :) 01:29 < normalperson> Capso, courtc: people watching a video would probably appreciate the resources freed by MPD 01:29 < courtc> normalperson: so you're saying make memory hogging applications kill MPD and have MPDc start it up if needed? 01:30 < BHSPitLappy> is mdp the reason the video player freezes on nano? 01:30 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: no. 01:30 < BHSPitLappy> ok 01:30 < normalperson> courtc: just issue the kill command from mpdc if you're starting a video player 01:30 < normalperson> podzilla still controls everything, right? 01:30 < Capso> Normalperson: Thought the point was to use video player in conjunction with MPD(C)? 01:31 < courtc> normalperson: umm.. kindof.. there are other seperate applications which might require lots of memory as well.. 01:31 < lucaas> one more question, should i use the "old" userland, or should i get a new one somewhere? 01:31 < BHSPitLappy> say, has anyone made a terminal emulator for ipl yet? 01:32 < courtc> BHSPitLappy: I did once. 01:32 < normalperson> Capso: mpd = music player daemon, the word video is not there, of course the ipodlinux devs are free to change it in any way they wish, but I'll have no part in it 01:32 < BHSPitLappy> didn't end well? 01:32 < courtc> Poor reception.. I trashed it. 01:32 < normalperson> Capso: each program should do one thing, and do it well (Unix philosophy) 01:32 < BHSPitLappy> reception...by the community? 01:32 < courtc> yea 01:33 < BHSPitLappy> that's too bad 01:33 < BHSPitLappy> what did it use for text entry? 01:33 < courtc> nothing. 01:33 < BHSPitLappy> oh 01:33 < courtc> took whatever you gave it. 01:33 < normalperson> that said, podzilla is a pretty decent UI/glue layer between applications 01:33 < courtc> intercepted 'm' for quit. 01:33 < BHSPitLappy> someone should make one using what's-his-face's text input 01:34 < courtc> or.. not. 01:34 < BHSPitLappy> lol 01:34 < normalperson> courtc: is the helix stuff for mpd stable? 01:34 < courtc> normalperson: not the aac stuff. 01:35 < Capso> Don't really care about Unix philosophy... more useful if it can be used with a variety of other things. 01:35 < courtc> I think the mp3 decoder is.. 01:37 < normalperson> courtc: I'll try to remember to look into it 01:37 < courtc> normalperson: coob knows the specifics.. drop him a pm if you want them ;) 01:38 -!- Arthur [n=Arthur@c-66-229-214-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 -!- Arthur [n=Arthur@c-66-229-214-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 01:38 * courtc afk 01:38 < normalperson> he stopped hanging around here, too? 01:38 -!- Arthur2k5 [n=Arthur@c-66-229-214-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 < courtc> yea, ... 01:39 < normalperson> still using your svn repo or is it moved somewhere else? 01:39 < courtc> same. 01:39 < normalperson> no activity :/ 01:39 < courtc> yea, no progress 01:39 < courtc> we've been busy with other stuff.. 01:39 < normalperson> same here 01:40 < courtc> mpdc progress is in podzilla CVS, not much on that, works now at least.. 01:40 < courtc> I really have to run. Later. 01:41 < normalperson> yeah, it's been great for me (using July version) 01:41 < normalperson> I guess I could optimize the networking a bit 01:41 < normalperson> later 01:41 < normalperson> I'll be in the usual place if anybody wants to talk mpd with me, lates 01:42 < BHSPitLappy> lates. 01:42 -!- normalperson [i=normalpe@hand.yhbt.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly -- Henry Spencer"] 01:56 < lucaas> courtc, thanks for your help, it worked just fine, ipl is up and running 01:56 < lucaas> but, /mnt/ is empty 01:56 < lucaas> so is music 01:57 < lucaas> so i guess its not mounting the vfat partition as it shouöd 01:58 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:03 < lucaas> nvm, now it works just fine 02:03 < lucaas> i didnt save /etc/rc correctly, i guess 02:04 < Zol> courtc: calculator takes a painfully long time to work 02:04 < Zol> when i'm entering a digit right after a function, it freezes for a few secs 02:04 < Zol> e.g. 02:05 < Zol> 105*213 02:05 < Zol> it freezes after i type in the 2 02:05 < Zol> not sure if this is because ipod cant really calculate fast or not =p 02:16 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:16 < lucaas> is idoom mirrored somewhere? the link on the wiki is dead.. 02:17 -!- underdog [i=amedeiro@81.84.154.1] has quit ["leaving"] 02:19 < BHSPitLappy> do you just need the binary 02:20 < BHSPitLappy> or the wad and sh*t too 02:21 < lucaas> everyting :) 02:22 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 02:22 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:25 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:25 < BHSPitLappy> you don't happen to have a server do you.. 02:27 < lucaas> i do have a private one running on this box, but that wouldnt do no good, as it comes up and goes down all the time, and the speed is slow 02:27 < Vanquisher> i have a 24/7 server 02:29 < Capso> You want iDoom? 02:30 < Vanquisher> me? 02:30 < Capso> Lucaas. 02:30 < lucaas> i do :) 02:30 < Capso> Hold. 02:30 < lucaas> ty 02:31 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:32 < Capso> Lucaas: http://nanoSouffle.net/beta/nanoDIRs?dir=podWorld/iDoom-src.tgz 02:33 < Vanquisher> how do u install idom 02:33 < lucaas> thanks 02:33 < Vanquisher> doom 02:34 < lucaas> http://ipodlinux.org/Doom 02:34 < Capso> Lucaas: For the Binary: http://nanoSouffle.net/beta/nanoDIRs?dir=podWorld/iDoom-bin.tgz 02:34 < lucaas> Capso, yes, i took that one :> 02:34 < Capso> Lucaas: Binary contains a README with Howto and FAQ. 02:35 < Capso> I have to update my DIR structure soon, too. 02:47 < lucaas> it worked perfectly, thanks 02:47 < lucaas> a little hard to see whats going on, but i guess you shouldnt expect that much from a b&w ipod screen 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> its still pretty damn cool on a mini 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> 10x as cool on my nano :) 02:48 < Capso> Clearer on my Graphing Calculator. 02:48 < BHSPitLappy> ha 02:49 < BHSPitLappy> cause there's no textures on the mirageOS version :p 02:49 < Capso> Who said anything about MirageOS. 02:50 < veteran> is the wiki's upload feature not working? 02:51 < Capso> How long will you be "in the midst of recovering from a server crash"? 02:51 < veteran> it's... done 02:51 < BHSPitLappy> 'you'? 02:52 < Capso> It's still on the Page. 02:55 < aegray> \t 02:55 < BHSPitLappy> eh? 03:04 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [] 03:23 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:27 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 < KoSoVaR> I still haven't messed my iPod up.. 03:43 < KoSoVaR> hmm 03:48 < BHSPitMonkey> no good! 03:52 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has quit [] 04:05 -!- aveski [i=aa@67-51-11-110.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:05 -!- aveski [i=aa@67-51-11-110.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:13 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:13 < Zol> hey 04:22 < BHSPitMonkey> yup 04:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:25 < BHSPitMonkey> sup 04:26 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:26 < Arthur2k5> hi 04:26 < BHSPitMonkey> yep 04:27 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 04:32 -!- BamaWOLF [n=dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:32 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool252-68.nas5.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:34 < KoSoVaR> will this thing own my color ipod 04:34 < KoSoVaR> : 04:34 < KoSoVaR> :p 04:46 < BHSPitMonkey> own like monkeys own broadway, or own like slavery 04:53 < jedix> can't it be both? 04:53 < BHSPitMonkey> i suppose 04:53 -!- BamaWOLF [n=dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:54 < BHSPitMonkey> KoSoVaR: well it sure owns my nano, so i'd say go for it :) 04:56 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:56 -!- AileStrike [n=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:57 < AileStrike> hmmm 04:57 < AileStrike> they're unsupported 04:57 < AileStrike> dam 04:57 < AileStrike> so it doesn't work 04:57 < josh_> no 04:57 < josh_> that's not correct 04:57 < josh_> it probably will work 04:57 < AileStrike> er 04:58 < AileStrike> by 4 g does it men generation 04:58 < AileStrike> or size 04:58 < josh_> but we might not help you if it doesn't. 04:58 < josh_> 4th generation and above. (Click Wheel iPods.) 04:58 < AileStrike> click wheel 04:58 < AileStrike> i got an ipod mini 4 gb 04:58 < AileStrike> i think it might be 4g 04:58 < josh_> yep, it'll probably work, but it's not officially supported. 04:58 < AileStrike> ahhh 04:59 < AileStrike> does ipod linux use less or more battery power than normal firmware 04:59 < josh_> about 3x as much 04:59 < AileStrike> you're kididng 04:59 < josh_> serious 04:59 < AileStrike> the battery in this thing is pretty crappy allready 04:59 < josh_> a charge will last 3 hours if you're lucky 04:59 < AileStrike> lasts like 2 hours 04:59 < AileStrike> prehaps ipodlinux isn't for me 04:59 < josh_> nah, try it 04:59 < josh_> you could always just keep it plugged in :P 04:59 < AileStrike> the battery will last like 40 minutes 05:00 < AileStrike> whats the point of that 05:00 < AileStrike> only reason i wanted ipodlinux is to put more games on it 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> to play doom 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> that's the point. 05:00 < AileStrike> lol 05:00 < BHSPitMonkey> and watch video 05:00 < AileStrike> this screen is black and white 05:01 < AileStrike> it's not colour 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 05:01 < josh_> so? 05:01 < josh_> you can do both on b&w screens :P 05:01 < AileStrike> lol 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> yep 05:01 < josh_> (they're actually 4-color screens: black, white, light and dark grey.) 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> i installed on my friends mini this weekend 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> greyscale video/doom are okay 05:01 < AileStrike> guessing theres no way to put more games on it without using ipodlinux 05:01 < BHSPitMonkey> nope 05:01 < AileStrike> shat 05:01 < AileStrike> well i can uninstall it right 05:02 < josh_> yep 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> unless you want to play a text dungeon on notes :D 05:02 < AileStrike> ok i'll give it a go 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> what's the point of uninstalling 05:02 < AileStrike> of course i have no idea what to do 05:02 < AileStrike> the battery in this 05:02 < AileStrike> it's charge cycles are running low 05:02 < AileStrike> get on good days like 1 and a half hour 05:02 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: win, mac, *nix? 05:02 < AileStrike> win 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> shouldn't be a big deal at all then 05:03 < AileStrike> doesn't it suck away the battery 05:03 < BHSPitMonkey> when you're using it... 05:03 < AileStrike> heh 05:04 < AileStrike> yea 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> you still keep the apple OS, you know that right? 05:04 < AileStrike> i can 05:04 < AileStrike> can i manually switch at like any time 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> that's like the only way to do it :p 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 05:04 < AileStrike> do i gotta go to the diagnostic mode 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> DUHHH! 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> no 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> but similar 05:04 < BHSPitMonkey> you reset and hold rewind to boot to the un-default OS 05:04 < AileStrike> do i reboot and hold the center button when is ee the apple logo 05:05 < AileStrike> can i set ipodlinux to un-default os 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> ^ 05:05 < josh_> yes 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 05:05 < AileStrike> ok now i can do this 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> the installer will walk you through it 05:05 < AileStrike> it's that easy 05:05 < AileStrike> dam 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> but 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> you should download the latest nightlies of the kernel and podzilla 05:05 < BHSPitMonkey> which is also pretty much idiotproof 05:05 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:05 < AileStrike> so i should download 05:06 < AileStrike> from soruce forge 05:06 < AileStrike> kernal and bootloader? 05:06 < BHSPitMonkey> http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_4G_Installer_using_Nightly_Builds 05:07 < BHSPitMonkey> and i usually just get my nightlies from http://homepage.mac.com/slowcoder/ipl/ 05:07 < BHSPitMonkey> because slowcoder spoils us ;) 05:07 < davidc__> the main nightlies script should be back njow 05:07 < davidc__> vet fixed it 05:07 < davidc__> it should cron through tonight sometime 05:10 < AileStrike> lalalalala 05:10 < AileStrike> dam windows 05:12 < BHSPitMonkey> no, silly 05:12 < BHSPitMonkey> beavers don't know how to make complex windows as we humans can 05:13 < AileStrike> no i'm saying to dam windows 05:13 < AileStrike> it's clogging up 05:13 < AileStrike> dam our lakes and streams 05:13 < AileStrike> i think i should restart my computer 05:13 < AileStrike> i can't rememebr the last time it was off 05:16 < AileStrike> lalala 05:16 < AileStrike> sooo 05:16 < AileStrike> now for doom 05:16 < AileStrike> how do i put doom on my ipod mini 05:18 < AileStrike> i think ipodlinux installer just froze 05:18 < AileStrike> while backing up it says notresponding 05:19 < AileStrike> it crashes 05:19 < AileStrike> ghmmm should i tell microsoft about this problem 05:19 < AileStrike> intalling linux on an apple ipod, i doubt they care 05:22 < AileStrike> quiet in here now 05:23 < AileStrike> it allways like freezes up after making the backup 05:23 < Zol> btw 05:23 < AileStrike> is this normal 05:23 < Zol> i think the recordings i did might have been warped due to overloading 05:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:26 < AileStrike> there we go 05:30 < AileStrike> i don't think doom could work an a mini 05:30 < AileStrike> not enough buttons 05:30 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh there's the same amount of buttons as the other ipods... 05:30 < BHSPitMonkey> and it plays just like on my nano (except b/w of course) 05:31 < BHSPitMonkey> did you even get doom playing? 05:32 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 05:32 < AileStrike> i'm installing linux 05:32 < AileStrike> just thinking ahead 05:33 < AileStrike> now i'm wondeirng 05:33 < AileStrike> when it says root for the 2 files 05:33 < AileStrike> it doesn't mean the linux folder...right 05:34 < BHSPitMonkey> what? where? 05:34 < BHSPitMonkey> oh 05:35 < AileStrike> nevermind 05:35 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 05:35 < BHSPitMonkey> the fat partition, that windows sees 05:35 < BHSPitMonkey> start and podzilla 05:35 < BHSPitMonkey> no extensions. 05:36 < AileStrike> it seems to be going 05:36 < AileStrike> booting up now 05:38 < BHSPitMonkey> and? 05:39 < AileStrike> it says exiting command:podzilla 05:39 < AileStrike> has a line 05:39 < AileStrike> and nothing 05:39 < AileStrike> is this normal 05:39 < AileStrike> hmmm 05:40 < BHSPitMonkey> did you do the podzilla and start stuff right 05:40 < AileStrike> i think 05:40 < AileStrike> i do hope this is 4th g 05:40 < BHSPitMonkey> "start" was the file you made, right 05:40 < BHSPitMonkey> no extension 05:40 < BHSPitMonkey> doesn't look like a text file icon 05:41 < AileStrike> no extension 05:41 < BHSPitMonkey> and you renamed podzilla the same way 05:42 < BHSPitMonkey> go to diskmode, see if start and podzilla are still there 05:42 < AileStrike> ok 05:42 < AileStrike> i just restarted it 05:42 < AileStrike> went into linux 05:42 < AileStrike> and now i see nothing on the screen after the text 05:42 < BHSPitMonkey> keep your hands off the wheel 05:42 < AileStrike> but i hear clickings 05:42 < BHSPitMonkey> wait 05:42 < Zol> josh_: http://ipodlinux.org/Itanks - site is dead 05:42 < BHSPitMonkey> then it's the contrast 05:42 < AileStrike> now what 05:43 < BHSPitMonkey> see the contrast section on the howto 05:43 < BHSPitMonkey> try looking at the screen from other angles to try and see something 05:43 < BHSPitMonkey> hold down menu to turn the backlight on, experiment 05:44 < BHSPitMonkey> wait...first try holding menu down for 10sec or so 05:44 < AileStrike> i did 05:44 < BHSPitMonkey> http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_4G_Installer_using_Nightly_Builds#Solving_Contrast_Problem 05:45 < AileStrike> ok i went to disk mode 05:45 < BHSPitMonkey> do those steps 05:45 < AileStrike> start and pod aren't there anymore 05:45 < BHSPitMonkey> if you heard the clicker wheel then podzilla is obviously working 05:45 < BHSPitMonkey> ok 05:45 < BHSPitMonkey> go back to linux 05:46 < AileStrike> look at the bottom thing ofr ocntrast problem 05:46 < BHSPitMonkey> but you heard the clicker 05:46 < BHSPitMonkey> so podzilla is obviously working 05:46 < BHSPitMonkey> read the TOP thing of contrast problem 05:46 < BHSPitMonkey> try those steps and listen for clicks 05:47 -!- suir [n=suresh@203.141.131.37.user.at.il24.net] has joined #iPodLinux 05:47 < AileStrike> ok 05:47 < AileStrike> lets see now 05:47 < AileStrike> going back to linux 05:47 < AileStrike> i see a line on the top 05:48 < BHSPitMonkey> hear clicks? 05:48 < suir> can i know the OS name used by apple in ipod other than uclinux 05:48 < BHSPitMonkey> we usually call it RetailOS... 05:48 < Zol> BHS: he basically has it 05:48 < BHSPitMonkey> lol 05:48 < Zol> he has maximum functionality for his ipod 05:48 < Zol> you cant get any better than a line on the top 05:48 < AileStrike> ok got to controast screen 05:48 < Zol> and arrows to the side 05:48 < Zol> on a 4g color 05:49 < AileStrike> now it's all black 05:49 < suir> hi AileStrike hi 05:49 < BHSPitMonkey> and that's pumping the 3d chip! 05:49 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: take it nice and slow 05:49 < suir> AileStrike, hi 05:49 < BHSPitMonkey> dont scroll too fast 05:49 < suir> can i know the OS used by apple in ipod other than uclinux 05:50 < BHSPitMonkey> the default OS??? 05:50 < suir> BHSPitMonkey, yes 05:51 < BHSPitMonkey> it doesn't have an operating system name...it's kind of like nokia phones, it's a RetailOS 05:51 < BHSPitMonkey> hardly an operating system at all 05:51 < AileStrike> i think i did somehting wrong 05:51 < AileStrike> great now my ipod is beeping at me 05:51 < BHSPitMonkey> lol battery i think 05:52 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: screw it, go buy a 5G 05:52 < AileStrike> lol 05:52 < AileStrike> yea battery 05:52 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,can u explain RetailOS, built by apple 05:52 < AileStrike> it's giving me a low battery eeror 05:52 < AileStrike> it's plugged in 05:52 < BHSPitMonkey> suir: what's to explain??? 05:52 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: my friend's mini was like that too 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> my diagnosis is it's an old piece of crap. 05:53 < AileStrike> stop beeping at me 05:53 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,is in built software package with ipod 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> is that even a sentence? 05:53 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,is it pixo 05:53 < BHSPitMonkey> uhh 05:54 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,haaaaa 05:54 < BHSPitMonkey> i think so 05:54 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,:( 05:54 < BHSPitMonkey> but i don't think a single person here knows what you came here to ask 05:54 < AileStrike> how do i restore the backup 05:55 < AileStrike> nevermind 05:55 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,i like to know the OS used by apple 05:56 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,thats it 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> it's just the ipod's default os. 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> nothing more. 05:56 -!- darth_lacinis [i=Sinial_J@ip70-177-4-76.hu.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> not symbian. 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> not windows. 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> just the ipod's UI. 05:56 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,ok 05:56 < darth_lacinis> hello 05:56 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,:) 05:56 < BHSPitMonkey> we refer to it as RetailOS sometime here 05:57 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,hmm 05:57 < darth_lacinis> does anyone know how to make SoX work on a 3rd gen ipod? 05:57 < BHSPitMonkey> welcome, sith bastard! 05:57 < AileStrike> hey i was thinking 05:57 < AileStrike> this thing can work as a flash drive right 05:57 < darth_lacinis> i'm not even sure how to go about installing linux on the ipod 05:57 * BHSPitMonkey lightsabres your ass 05:57 < AileStrike> this 4gb ipod mini 05:57 < darth_lacinis> lol 05:57 < BHSPitMonkey> darth_lacinis: maybe you should tackle that issue before SoX 05:57 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: yeah 05:58 < darth_lacinis> *you want to help me* 05:58 < AileStrike> i was wondering if i could instal whole games onto the ipod like a normal hard drive and than if i took it to school plugged it in could it work off the ipod 05:58 < BHSPitMonkey> i installed iPL on a 4GB mini this weekend 05:58 < AileStrike> or will it be slow due to usb speeds 05:58 < BHSPitMonkey> i'm a giant ugly flying monster, your jedi tricks don't work on me 05:58 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,is linux OS spelled as uclinux or as ipodlinux 05:58 < darth_lacinis> only money 05:58 < darth_lacinis> lol 05:58 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: USB 2.0 is pretty fast 05:59 < AileStrike> you don't need to...*forget the rest of the lines* 05:59 < AileStrike> so BHSPitLappy you think it'll work 05:59 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,is linux version in ipod spelled as uclinux or as ipodlinux 05:59 < BHSPitMonkey> suir: linux for the ipod is iPodLinux or iPL 05:59 < AileStrike> ipood 05:59 < BHSPitMonkey> uclinux is what it was based on 05:59 < darth_lacinis> i'm not sure what to download to install iPL 05:59 < darth_lacinis> i know i'm asking the most annoying and common question 05:59 < BHSPitMonkey> darth_lacinis: what OS are you using now 06:00 < darth_lacinis> windows 06:00 < BHSPitMonkey> have you been to the web site? 06:00 < darth_lacinis> yeah 06:00 < Zol> actually 06:00 < BHSPitMonkey> seen the installer?? 06:00 < Zol> my USB 2.0 works at only 15mb/s at best 06:00 < darth_lacinis> do i want the windows installer? 06:00 < darth_lacinis> as in "ipodlinux-installer" 06:01 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:01 < BHSPitMonkey> the supported one 06:02 < darth_lacinis> so i don't want the bootloader or any of that stuff 06:02 < darth_lacinis> at least not yet right 06:02 < BHSPitMonkey> darth_lacinis: no, but did you get the latest nightlies? 06:02 < BHSPitMonkey> (that isn't in the howto) 06:03 < darth_lacinis> nightlies? 06:03 < BHSPitMonkey> yeah 06:04 < BHSPitMonkey> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-11-01-kernel.bin.gz 06:04 < BHSPitMonkey> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-11-01-podzilla.gz 06:04 < BHSPitMonkey> extract those two files 06:04 < BHSPitMonkey> and rename the resulting files "linux.bin" and "podzilla", respectively 06:04 < darth_lacinis> okay 06:05 < BHSPitMonkey> and you have the installer already, correct? 06:05 < Zol> BHS: got iBoy working on your nano? 06:06 < darth_lacinis> yeah 06:06 < darth_lacinis> haven't installed anything yet 06:06 < darth_lacinis> got those two files also btw 06:06 < BHSPitMonkey> Zol: No 06:06 < BHSPitMonkey> place linux.bin into the installer folder 06:07 < BHSPitMonkey> it should be replacing the linux.bin already in there. 06:07 < darth_lacinis> yeah 06:07 < darth_lacinis> and podzilla as well? 06:07 < BHSPitMonkey> no 06:07 < darth_lacinis> okay 06:07 < darth_lacinis> and is it podzilla.bin? 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> no 06:08 < darth_lacinis> that i want to rename it to 06:08 < darth_lacinis> oh 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> no extension at all 06:08 < darth_lacinis> okay 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> "podzilla" 06:08 < darth_lacinis> just podzilla 06:08 < darth_lacinis> done 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> now in notepad, create a new file with only 2 lines: 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> mv /hp/podzilla /sbin/ 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> rm /hp/start /hp/podzilla 06:08 < BHSPitMonkey> just like that 06:09 < BHSPitMonkey> and save it as "start" (no ext.) with podzilla 06:09 < darth_lacinis> so the two lines should be separated by pressing enter 06:09 < BHSPitMonkey> go ahead and run the installer, and make sure to UNCHECK the box for updates 06:09 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:09 < darth_lacinis> k 06:10 < davidc__> bored bored bored 06:10 < darth_lacinis> won't it save as a text file that way though? 06:10 < BHSPitMonkey> when the installer's finished, it'll say to reboot the ipod (don't.) 06:10 < BHSPitMonkey> not if you do it right. 06:10 < BHSPitMonkey> "all files" 06:10 < darth_lacinis> k 06:10 < darth_lacinis> yeah 06:10 -!- WingZer0 [n=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:10 < darth_lacinis> any particular kind of encoding? 06:11 < BHSPitMonkey> after the installer is done, open the ipod's FAT partition in My Computer and put podzilla and start in the root folder 06:11 < BHSPitMonkey> uh, no 06:11 < darth_lacinis> hmm... looks like a .txt to me 06:11 < BHSPitMonkey> then rename it. 06:11 < darth_lacinis> has that icon at least 06:11 < BHSPitMonkey> are you not viewing extensions? 06:11 < BHSPitMonkey> tools>folder options 06:11 < darth_lacinis> should podzilla be in the installer folder, along with the start file? 06:12 < darth_lacinis> or just put then in a folder so i can change the extension? 06:12 < BHSPitMonkey> wouldn't matter, the installer doesnt use it 06:12 < WingZer0> ok 06:12 < BHSPitMonkey> you can if you want to keep them all together like that. 06:12 < WingZer0> BHSPitLappy, is there a wya i can find out what generation my ipod is 06:12 < WingZer0> i'm starting to think it's not 4thg 06:12 < darth_lacinis> done 06:12 -!- AileStrike [n=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:12 < BHSPitMonkey> umm...what does it look like?? 06:12 < darth_lacinis> so i run the installer but dont'get updates? 06:12 < BHSPitMonkey> correct 06:12 < darth_lacinis> k, i'll do that now 06:13 < BHSPitMonkey> you have the latest updates there is 06:13 < darth_lacinis> should i have the ipod connected to my comp? 06:13 < BHSPitMonkey> no, all ipods have auto-wifi 06:13 < WingZer0> were you asking me 06:13 < BHSPitMonkey> of course connect it :p 06:13 < WingZer0> it's an ipod mini 06:13 < darth_lacinis> lol 06:13 < WingZer0> does that make it a 4g 06:13 < BHSPitMonkey> WingZer0: not at all. no. 06:13 -!- WingZer0 is now known as AileStrike 06:13 < AileStrike> it's me 06:13 < AileStrike> nick changed on me 06:14 < AileStrike> but i don't think i have a 4g 06:14 < AileStrike> is there a way i can tell? 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: but you still use the 4G installer on it 06:14 < AileStrike> oh yea 06:14 < AileStrike> i figured it was but now i'm having doubts 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> 4G's are full sized white ipods. 06:14 < AileStrike> dam it 06:14 < AileStrike> it's an ipod mini 06:14 < BHSPitMonkey> and there arte 1 and 2 G minis 06:15 < AileStrike> so it's either 1 or 2 06:15 < AileStrike> i can restore the backup 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> the difference between them being the 2G mini has the disk capacity printed on the back 06:15 < darth_lacinis> it's okay to have the original apple firmware be the default boot right? 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> sure 06:15 < darth_lacinis> k 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> it's probably a good idea too 06:15 < AileStrike> mine has no disk capacity printed on the back 06:15 < AileStrike> so i ahve a 1g mini 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> yep 06:15 < AileStrike> ok 06:15 < AileStrike> any other ways to make sure 06:15 < BHSPitMonkey> i had no trouble using the 4g installer on the 1G mini this weekend 06:15 < darth_lacinis> what do they mean by "back up", they don't mean all my files do they? 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> no 06:16 < darth_lacinis> okay 06:16 < AileStrike> ok 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> you should do that option. 06:16 < darth_lacinis> k 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> just your OS 06:16 < AileStrike> now what do i do for a 1g mini than 06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> AileStrike: just like for the 4G...read the whole process i've explained to darth_lacinis 06:17 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,does iPL built on uclinux 06:17 < AileStrike> but i was uding the 4g process 06:17 < AileStrike> and it diddn't work 06:17 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-160-124.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:19 < darth_lacinis> cool, so it's all installed 06:19 < darth_lacinis> is it ready for me to try to get SoX? 06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> did you copy podzilla and start into the root folder? 06:19 < AileStrike> yea i did 06:19 < AileStrike> and i got the blank screen 06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> what's SoX? 06:19 < darth_lacinis> root folder? 06:19 < AileStrike> i couldn't fix with contrast 06:19 < darth_lacinis> err.. 06:19 < suir> BHSPitMonkey,does iPL built on uclinux 06:19 < darth_lacinis> i think it will let me record audio with my ipod via the headphones 06:19 < darth_lacinis> or so i was told 06:20 < darth_lacinis> that, or there is a program that runs on iPL that will do that 06:20 < AileStrike> how do i downgrade to the 1.3 firmware 06:20 < darth_lacinis> again, so i've heard 06:20 < darth_lacinis> what is the root folder? 06:21 -!- haroldpark [n=henke@gilgamesh.physics.usyd.edu.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:21 < BHSPitMonkey> like...your F: drive or something 06:21 < darth_lacinis> SoX = Sound eXchange 06:21 < BHSPitMonkey> in my computer 06:21 < darth_lacinis> oh 06:21 < BHSPitMonkey> ah 06:21 < darth_lacinis> the ipod as a hard drive 06:21 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:21 < darth_lacinis> one sec 06:21 < darth_lacinis> let me hook it back up and take a look in there 06:22 < BHSPitMonkey> you HAVE to put those 2 files ther 06:23 < BHSPitMonkey> then you can go ahead and reset, hold << at the apple logo 06:23 < darth_lacinis> do i put them in the linux folder? 06:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> no 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> root 06:24 < BHSPitMonkey> F: or whatever for your system 06:24 < darth_lacinis> so in H:\ 06:24 < darth_lacinis> okay 06:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:25 < darth_lacinis> now in the ipod as a viewable hard drive, the contents are 06:25 < darth_lacinis> iPod_Control 06:25 < darth_lacinis> linux 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> ok yoda 06:25 < darth_lacinis> Recordings 06:25 < darth_lacinis> podzilla 06:25 < darth_lacinis> start 06:25 < darth_lacinis> the top 3 are folders 06:25 < BHSPitMonkey> ok ok reset 06:26 < darth_lacinis> reboot the ipod you mean? 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> yea 06:26 < darth_lacinis> to linux? 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> mmhm 06:26 < darth_lacinis> lol, this time it's going nutz 06:26 < darth_lacinis> lol 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> you should see text flying by 06:26 < BHSPitMonkey> every time you boot linux. 06:27 < darth_lacinis> cool cool 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> is podzilla up? 06:27 < darth_lacinis> does linux record on it's own withough SoX 06:27 < darth_lacinis> yeah 06:27 < BHSPitMonkey> good deal 06:27 < darth_lacinis> or is SoX a component of iPL? 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> it's in there 06:28 < darth_lacinis> that you have to update 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> look in extras 06:28 < darth_lacinis> yeah, looks like it 06:28 < darth_lacinis> is it capable of recording via the headphones input? 06:28 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> for your headphones, use mic recordign 06:28 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:28 < darth_lacinis> cool 06:30 < darth_lacinis> great, it works 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> mic recording through the headphone jack, line in recording using dock 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> which you prolly don't have 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> coolness 06:30 < darth_lacinis> indeed 06:30 < darth_lacinis> thanks soooo much 06:30 < darth_lacinis> so i guess i can update the SoX, or you gave me the stuff that already does 06:30 < BHSPitMonkey> now try doom :) 06:31 < darth_lacinis> doom? 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> there's nothing more to update... 06:31 < darth_lacinis> like Doom, Doom? 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yes 06:31 < darth_lacinis> spawn from hell 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> or here, iDoom 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> yep 06:31 < darth_lacinis> does that come with it as well? 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> it's the coolness, even on grayscale 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> no 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> gotta download 06:31 < darth_lacinis> oh, where do i get that from? 06:31 < BHSPitMonkey> http://nanosouffle.net/beta/podWorld/iDoom-bin.tgz 06:32 < BHSPitMonkey> just put that anywhere on the hard drive, probably on the root level so it's fastest to get to it 06:34 < darth_lacinis> cool 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> wait...maybe i need to explain...not that file, extract it 06:34 < darth_lacinis> k 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> :) 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> inside it is a folder called iDoom, inside THAT is 5 files 06:34 < BHSPitMonkey> put the idoom folder on your hard drive 06:34 < darth_lacinis> for some reason that link didn't make a download occur 06:35 < darth_lacinis> even when pasted into my browser 06:35 < BHSPitMonkey> http://nanosouffle.net/beta/nanoDIRs?dir=podWorld/iDoom-bin.tgz 06:37 < darth_lacinis> can i just to go nanoshuffle.net and search for it there? 06:37 < BHSPitMonkey> none of those links worked for you?? 06:38 < BHSPitMonkey> and read the address again... 06:38 < darth_lacinis> read the address? 06:39 < BHSPitMonkey> it doesn't say nanoshuffle 06:40 < darth_lacinis> it does 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> nanosouffle 06:40 < darth_lacinis> lol, if i add www. to the beginning, it says "ghetto browsers need not apply" and redirects me to mozilla 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> does not = nanoshuffle 06:40 < BHSPitMonkey> what browser are you using 06:40 < darth_lacinis> oh oh 06:41 < darth_lacinis> yeah, well i copied the link from your text 06:41 < darth_lacinis> so i diddn't type it wrong again 06:41 < darth_lacinis> or ever for that matter 06:41 < BHSPitMonkey> what browser? 06:41 < darth_lacinis> ie 06:41 < davidc__> LAME 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> hmm i can't tell, but maybe nanosouffle doesn't allow it 06:42 < BHSPitMonkey> heh. 06:42 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-160-124.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:42 < AileStrike> okok 06:42 < AileStrike> i'm going to start over 06:42 < AileStrike> from scratch 06:42 < aegray_> good 06:42 < Zol> davidc__: how were the fireworks? 06:42 < AileStrike> i even restored the ipod to factory settings 06:42 < davidc__> fun. 06:42 < AileStrike> it's 1.4 1g ipod mini 06:43 < davidc__> its too bad you didn't come see 06:43 < BHSPitMonkey> sorry but i can't stay up any longer to help...later fellas 06:43 < AileStrike> nooooooooo 06:43 < AileStrike> :'( 06:43 < darth_lacinis> thanks 06:43 -!- BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:43 -!- darth_lacinis [i=Sinial_J@ip70-177-4-76.hu.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 06:44 -!- ScoTTie [i=scott@220-253-35-233.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:47 < BHSPitLappy> so long! 06:47 -!- BHSPitLappy [i=steve-o@adsl-67-64-107-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:49 < davidc__> wow, is it just me, or are the vast majority of people in the forums fucking useless? 06:49 < aegray_> its not you 06:51 -!- suir [n=suresh@203.141.131.37.user.at.il24.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:51 < davidc__> I need a 06:51 < davidc__> "Post and Lock" button 06:51 < aegray_> yea i noticed that that process is too complicated 06:51 < aegray_> haha "so your mileage may vary" 06:54 < davidc__> I HEREBY EXORCISE YOU DEMONS FROM THIS PCI BUS. 06:54 < aegray_> ? 06:54 < davidc__> damn, didn't fix it 06:54 * aegray_ guesses 06:54 < aegray_> what you workin on ? 06:54 < davidc__> PCI Bus 06:54 < davidc__> Tryin to get this damn bus to work properly 06:54 < aegray_> for your computer? 06:55 < davidc__> nah, for the wifi card for the router @ work 06:55 < aegray_> ah 06:55 < davidc__> the interrupt isn't triggering this HRT thread on the proc 06:55 < davidc__> its staying in suspend forever 06:55 < davidc__> which makes david an unhappy boy 06:55 < aegray_> thats no good 06:55 < aegray_> haha 06:55 < davidc__> but I think I've got rid of all the hardware bugs :/ 06:56 < davidc__> so at least its semi working 06:56 < aegray_> thats good - softwares probably easier to debug 06:56 < aegray_> i realized that maybe i should start paying attention in osdev class and maybe i'd be able to follow you more when you talk 06:56 < davidc__> on a processor with 8 way hardware multithreading? not exactly :P 06:56 < aegray_> holy shit 06:57 < davidc__> yeah.. its sorta funky 07:22 < AileStrike> yay 07:22 < AileStrike> it works now 07:22 < AileStrike> hey are there any more games i can install onto my ipod now that it has linux 07:24 < aegray_> games? 07:24 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-194-88.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:24 < aegray_> what are you looking for? 07:24 -!- ErUs [n=noneofyo@ACD6B1CC.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:26 < AileStrike> doesn't matter 07:27 < AileStrike> i want to know my options 07:27 < aegray_> `wiki applications 07:27 < iplbot> Applications (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Applications) [5198 bytes] 07:28 < AileStrike> gameboy emulator 07:28 < AileStrike> dam i got a 1g ipod mini 07:29 < davidc__> You know you _could_ try reading our website _first_ istead of asking to be spoonfed the answers AileStrike 07:30 < aegray_> here comes the airplane - open the hangar! 07:31 < AileStrike> you know i am lazy and i shoudla gone to bed half an hour ago 07:31 < AileStrike> that and my ipod isn't supported 07:32 < davidc__> Hmm, you know I'm lazy, shoulda gone to be a half an hour ago, and I'm still at fucking work working on some really irritating twichy stuff 07:32 < davidc__> I'm in a really fucking bad mood 07:33 < davidc__> Make My Day. 07:35 < AileStrike> :'( 07:39 < davidc__> now, now, don't cry. 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I'm assuming it didn't finish writing some header type information. Can anyone confirm this or recommend something for recovering .wav files? 17:29 < davidc__> try audaucity. 17:29 < davidc__> it might be able to grab some stuff 17:30 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:30 < mattybats> how bout programatticaly 17:30 < mattybats> (not that I won't try audacity first) 17:30 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 17:31 < mattybats> any developers out there who can tell me what happened to the file, so as to point me in the write direction? 17:33 < slowcoder> mattybats: WinPOD or MacPOD ? 17:34 < mattybats> winpod 17:35 -!- _Hetfield [i=Hetfield@197pc195.sshunet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 17:36 < slowcoder> mattybats: Norton diskdoctor 17:36 < slowcoder> Or any other file recovery tool 17:36 < mattybats> i just did a raw import using audacity 17:40 < davidc__> you should hear some stuff there 17:40 < davidc__> if not 17:40 < davidc__> try fiddling around with the settings 17:41 < davidc__> [endian, format, etc] 17:42 < mattybats> thanks erybody 17:42 < mattybats> (that was my lame attempt at a southcoast style accent) 17:44 < mattybats> so I been using this pc mic to record. It seems to distort alot. Like it's over sensitive or something. anybody recommend another cheap mic? 17:44 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:48 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 17:53 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 -!- ashutosh [i=ashutosh@61.1.74.154] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- mattybats [n=AZ2304@user-12hduo0.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Azureus 2.3.0.4"] 18:20 -!- maloo [n=malooute@203-59-191-6.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:46 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:51 -!- nach0 [n=nach0@c-67-169-168-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["b00ya!"] 19:03 -!- Detro [n=MOBiZONE@563458ED.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:06 -!- Detro [n=MOBiZONE@563458ED.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 19:26 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host53-35.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 -!- Luke_ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 19:30 -!- ashutosh [i=ashutosh@61.1.74.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:42 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 -!- Arthur2k5 [n=Arthur@c-66-229-214-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:47 -!- lol [n=lol@G7db3.g.pppool.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:48 < lol> hi @all 19:48 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:48 < lol> gibts deutsche hier? 19:49 -!- jesse [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:49 < jesse> any improvements with ipl on 20gb color? 19:49 < lol> linux runs for the first time on my ipod color! okay, with many bugs, but wow, cool! i just wanted to thank you guis! 19:49 < Bi-noix> :) 19:50 < SpeTIX> lol: how? 19:50 < SpeTIX> please tell me! 19:50 < lol> with the latest nightly 19:50 < lol> and the 4G installer 19:50 < lol> but JUST very buggy 19:50 < lol> but first time running! 19:50 < lol> and display works too 19:50 < jesse> i cant wait till movies work with color 19:50 < SpeTIX> I query you a few seconds.. 19:50 < lol> me too! :) 19:51 < lol> just a few weeks left i think 19:51 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 < jesse> really? 19:51 < Dima202> Hey guys 19:51 < Dima202> I can't believe it! DHL lost my ipod!:( Do you think I will get the new Video color ipod? I had a color one... 19:51 < Dima202> I hope they give me the video :( 19:51 < lol> no, they really lost it?? 19:51 < Dima202> That would rock! 19:52 < Dima202> YEah!!!! 19:52 < jesse> how do u convert movies to work on thei pod 19:52 < Dima202> God answered my prayers 19:52 < jesse> and how do u put them and play them on the ipod 19:52 < lol> no that wouldn't rock, because linux didn't run at this time ;) 19:52 < Dima202> yeah!~ :( 19:52 < lol> @jesse: ?? 19:52 -!- Raim- [i=Raim@p5493FD4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:52 < Dima202> But I could wait and maybe even help out to make it supported 19:52 < lol> best you can get is the colour one 19:52 < SpeTIX> which are the settings for the partition table? 19:53 < Dima202> I really want linux only anything 19:53 < Dima202> hehe 19:53 < lol> =) 19:53 < lol> yeah, this project really roxx 19:53 < Dima202> You mean most they could give me is the color ipod? 19:53 < lol> yeah, i think so, because: 19:54 < lol> see the ipod as a product and the new one as another product 19:54 < Dima202> I had the color ipod... they lsot my black and white one and gave me the color 19:54 < lol> would you get a pen if you ordered a bin and they losted it? no 19:54 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@p5493FD4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:54 < Dima202> now the lost the color so I am thinking maybe they could get me the video 19:54 < lol> how did they lost your color? 19:55 < lol> i thought you had it allready? O_o 19:55 < Dima202> dhl 19:55 < lol> yeah, you ordered it 19:55 < Dima202> No the black and white one also shipped it and it was lost 19:55 < spiffy> *gasp*, dhl 19:55 < lol> ah, okay 19:55 < Dima202> I called apple they sent me the color 19:55 < lol> hm...anyway...simply cool to get the pod :D 19:55 < Dima202> Now I sent color, they fixed it but when they sent it back, DHL lost it 19:55 < lol> aaah, there you are 19:55 < lol> i see 19:56 < lol> ;) 19:56 < lol> i cant wait to see linux work well on mine :) wahoo! 19:56 < lol> i visit the tracking of developement thousand times a day :D 19:56 < Dima202> yEAH ME TOO 19:56 < Dima202> hehe 19:57 < lol> where are you from? 19:57 < Dima202> especially when I had the color ipod, not the photo 19:57 < Dima202> Brooklyn 19:57 < lol> i'm from germany 19:57 < lol> got msn or icq? 19:57 < Dima202> heard lots of good stuff about Germany 19:57 < lol> =) 19:57 < Dima202> aim=dima202, icq=45085958 19:58 < Dima202> Yeah some of the best stuff comes from Germany 19:58 < lol> e.g.? 19:58 < lol> added you 19:59 -!- ph03n1x [n=ph03n1x@catv-57-217.scheferag.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 19:59 < ph03n1x> hello 19:59 < ph03n1x> anyone running ipodlinux on the nano? 19:59 < lol> hm, no but wasn't the driver added a few days ago? 20:00 < lol> i think quite buggy but it would boot 20:00 < ph03n1x> someone in the forum said that a few people have it running 20:01 < lol> hm... i don't know anything about this. ive just the color 20:01 < ph03n1x> ok 20:01 < ph03n1x> what installation method would you suggest linux or windows? 20:01 < lol> i used win 20:01 < ph03n1x> k 20:01 < lol> but i think it doesnt matter 20:02 < ph03n1x> i did fsck it up with linux :) 20:02 < ph03n1x> but prolly my fault 20:02 < ph03n1x> will try windows later 20:02 < lol> okay 20:02 < lol> im gonna go 20:02 < lol> cu soon 20:02 < lol> bye 20:02 < ph03n1x> cu 20:02 -!- lol [n=lol@G7db3.g.pppool.de] has quit [] 20:03 < jesse> are there any programs that convert video so it works on ipod 20:03 < jesse> color 20:03 < ph03n1x> i think theres something 20:03 < jesse> what is it 20:04 < ph03n1x> dunno check the forum 20:04 < ph03n1x> there are some threads about it 20:05 < ph03n1x> think i'll boot windows... 20:05 -!- ph03n1x [n=ph03n1x@catv-57-217.scheferag.ch] has quit ["cu"] 20:06 < SpeTIX> lol did you edit the 4G_installer or it was ready? 20:08 < jesse> u have to use the updtaed kernel and podzilla, use the update option in the 4g installer 20:08 < SpeTIX> ok.. 20:08 < SpeTIX> ..and the partitions? 20:09 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h22n10c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:09 -!- X3RX35 [i=HydraIRC@catv-57-170.scheferag.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host53-35.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has quit ["Client exiting"] 20:13 -!- mb_ [n=mb@194.158.253.90] has joined #ipodlinux 20:14 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcd85.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:14 < mb_> just build ipodlinux (kernel, podzilla, ipodloader, ...) from cvs and tried to install it on my 4th generation, color, 60gb ipod... it seems that the boot loader doesn't work. it always boots the image I specify as default boot image (-> make_fw)... any ideas? 20:15 < josh_> mb_: hold down << to boot the non-default image 20:15 < josh_> what'd you expect it to do, give you a menu? 20:15 < mb_> doesn't work. 20:15 < josh_> try flipping the hold switch on 20:15 < josh_> and make sure you're holding << BEFORE you see Tux. 20:15 < mb_> also tried that. no luck 20:15 < mb_> and no images (tux/happymac) 20:16 < josh_> hm, idk then 20:16 < josh_> which fw is marked as default? 20:16 < Quarryman> hmm.. I've never seen Tux on my ipod :-( 20:16 < mb_> first i tried linux and it booted always linux... then i tried the original fw... and surprise, it booted always the original one ;( 20:17 < josh_> mb_: hm, no idea then. sorry. 20:20 < mb_> i'm wondering... does the ipodloader already support the new displays (which the 4g/color ones have)... 20:20 < Dima202> fuck! 20:20 < Dima202> Theey didn't loose it 20:20 < josh_> not the loader, which is why you don't see Tux 20:20 < josh_> Dima202: what? 20:21 < Dima202> They found it! 20:21 < Dima202> The ipod 20:21 < josh_> isn't that a ... good thing? 20:21 < Dima202> DHL just messed up something ! :( 20:21 < Dima202> Well not now it isn't! I wanted to get a Video ipod from apple 20:21 < josh_> ah haha 20:21 < Dima202> I already picked out everything for it 20:21 < Dima202> This is terrible!!!! 20:22 < Dima202> Why didn't they loose it? 20:22 < Dima202> I still hope that they are going to loose it.. Or they will mess something up and loose it 20:22 < mb_> josh_: loader.c:61 ...keyboard init, nothing to do... this might maybe explain why ;) 20:23 < Dima202> Sooo close to getting the video and yet so far... 20:26 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:28 < X3RX35> cool my nano is booting at least :) 20:28 < Dima202> did anyone get it to boot on the nano? 20:28 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:28 < X3RX35> can you read? 20:29 < Dima202> I was too excited with not getting the video ipod 20:30 < Dima202> I say everytime a powerbook or ipod breaks to upgrade it or send the new version 20:31 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcd85.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:31 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 20:32 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has joined #ipodlinux 20:39 -!- Chahk2__ [n=Chahk@person1.constellation.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 20:41 < X3RX35> ah yes and it works on the nano :) 20:42 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-088-064-064-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- X3RX35 [i=HydraIRC@catv-57-170.scheferag.ch] has quit [" HydraIRC rocks! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 20:53 -!- ph03n1x [n=ph03n1x@catv-57-217.scheferag.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56 < kantlivelong> yay my 250gb came in 20:58 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 20:59 < KoSoVaR> guys 20:59 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 < KoSoVaR> i wanna install this on my photo 21:00 < KoSoVaR> :p 21:00 < KoSoVaR> what the hell :( 21:02 -!- Mr_Milenko is now known as Milenko 21:03 -!- Milenko is now known as Mr_Milenko 21:03 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h10n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 < aegray_> good for you 21:04 < ph03n1x> hmm is it normal that i don't "see" my ipod when it's running linux? 21:05 < aegray_> turn the lights on? 21:05 < josh_> haha 21:07 < Mr_Milenko> think maybe he means backlight? 21:07 < Mr_Milenko> hold the menu button 21:08 < ph03n1x> errm i mean i don't have it showing up on my computer as an usb-device ;) 21:08 < Nappers> I expect he's meaning when it's connected to his computer... yes that's normal 21:09 < ph03n1x> hehe 21:09 < davidc__> reboot into apple OS 21:09 < ph03n1x> nah 21:09 < ph03n1x> i hate crapple 21:09 < ph03n1x> how come it doesn't show? 21:09 < davidc__> well, good luck connecting it ;) 21:09 < davidc__> befcause we don't have support? 21:10 < davidc__> we just let people reboot into the appleos on the ipod for that. 21:10 < ph03n1x> ok 21:10 < ph03n1x> and wheres the problem technically? 21:11 < davidc__> writing the driver? 21:11 < davidc__> so either reboot the ipod into disk mdoe 21:11 < ph03n1x> oic 21:11 < davidc__> *mode 21:11 < davidc__> or into the apple OS and let it go into disk mode for you 21:11 < ph03n1x> and another question... can i ssh to my ipod using usb? 21:12 < davidc__> if you write a USB slave driver for the ipod and port ope 21:12 < davidc__> nssh 21:12 < davidc__> sure. 21:12 < ph03n1x> hmm I fear I'm lacking the needed skills unfortunately ;) 21:15 < ph03n1x> but with firewire you can ssh to it, correct? 21:17 < davidc__> only on old ipods 21:17 < davidc__> only with a hacked host driver 21:17 < davidc__> and only with a hacked eth/fw driver 21:17 < ph03n1x> hmm interesting you using gentoo for developping? 21:17 < ph03n1x> oic :( 21:17 < ph03n1x> kdecache-root, haha 21:17 < davidc__> I use mac os x/gentoo /whatever I feel like 21:18 < davidc__> what _are_ you talking about? 21:18 < ph03n1x> just had a look at /tmp :) 21:18 < davidc__> on what? 21:18 < ph03n1x> ipod 21:18 < davidc__> ah 21:18 < ph03n1x> sda3 21:18 < davidc__> hmm. /tmp should be empty 21:19 < davidc__> but anyhow, I didn't create the userfs area anyways 21:19 < ph03n1x> hehe no portage, kde-cache, genkernel ;) funny to see 21:19 < davidc__> you sure thats there? 21:19 < davidc__> I think you're looking in the wrong place 21:20 < ph03n1x> ls /mnt/ipod/tmp 21:20 < ph03n1x> genkernel kdecache-root portage portage-pkg 21:20 < ph03n1x> /mnt/ipod/tmp is sda3 here so the linux partition from the ipod, latest nightly build... 21:20 < davidc__> I'm fairly sure you put them there somehow 21:20 < ph03n1x> lol 21:20 < davidc__> as I've never seen them in mine 21:21 < ph03n1x> i have it running since a few minuts 21:22 < ph03n1x> oic 21:22 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has quit ["brb"] 21:22 < ph03n1x> '/tmp is a link to /var/tmp which obviously links to my /var/tmp 21:23 -!- Bi-noix [i=Bi-noix@81.56.159.111] has joined #ipodlinux 21:23 < ph03n1x> hehe 21:24 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h155n8c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:30 -!- mfgalizi [n=micah@CPE000f66e3da54-CM000f9f7770aa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:39 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h10n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:44 < mfgalizi> Hello. I can see that the ipod video is not supported (even unofficially), but I would like to help development. Before I go get one, I would like to know if it's even possible and if anybody has an idea of what is required to get it working. ty. 21:48 < ph03n1x> Hi i think it should be possible and it would need a lot of work but talk to someone more competent like me ;) 21:49 < mfgalizi> ph03n1x, so I should or should not be talking to you? 21:49 < ph03n1x> hehe yes 21:49 < ph03n1x> maybe davidc? or post in the forum 21:50 < slowcoder> It's possible to that it might work later on, yes 21:50 < slowcoder> Definitly not impossible 21:50 < slowcoder> Whats required: Docs on the broadcom chip.. We'll need that to get decent speed out of the LCD 21:52 < ph03n1x> btw can it be that anonymous cvs access is not working? 21:52 < mfgalizi> slowcoder, is that all thats missing? I was under the impression that it wouldn't even boot. 21:52 < slowcoder> Wouldnt know.. Check SFs status-page 21:53 < slowcoder> mfgalizi: I didnt say it was working yet 22:00 < davidc__> it boots 22:00 < davidc__> just the lcd speed we get is crap 22:00 < davidc__> because they've gone around and changed tons of stuff 22:00 < davidc__> and we're using a low speed link to the lcd 22:00 < davidc__> podzilla doesn't work yet though 22:00 < slowcoder> davidc__: So it's official ? 22:01 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:01 < davidc__> nah, not official 22:01 < davidc__> because its too broken for everyone to use 22:02 < davidc__> but a) if you can track down someone who has the patch 22:02 < slowcoder> Yea, no kidding.. 22:02 < davidc__> and b) if you can actually make it work 22:02 < davidc__> then it might be a viable DEVELOPMENT platform 22:02 < davidc__> but its nowhere near ready primetime 22:02 < mfgalizi> The patch is not posted publicly? 22:02 < slowcoder> Did the guys fix the bootloader yet, so we can dual-boot ? 22:04 < davidc__> mfgalizi: not yet 22:04 < davidc__> only one person among us ahs a video 22:04 < davidc__> and he hasn't got around to releasing it 22:04 < davidc__> its not a patch yet 22:04 < davidc__> its a collection of hacks 22:04 < davidc__> in quite unreadable form 22:05 < davidc__> half assembler 22:05 < davidc__> half C 22:05 < davidc__> half a mix 22:05 < davidc__> [thats 3 halves] 22:05 < slowcoder> davidc__: Oh, but leach got his 5G today 22:05 < mfgalizi> davidc__: good enough for me. its a start! 22:05 < davidc__> cool 22:05 < davidc__> 2 of us then 22:06 < davidc__> mfgalizi: anyhow, talk to aegray_ if you see him 22:06 < slowcoder> davidc__: I've had mine for a few days as well... :) 22:06 < slowcoder> Tried optimizing the existing LCD code.. Got most of the spinlock out, but it's still _way_ too slow 22:09 < hyarion> slowcoder: how is the pixels stored? 22:10 < davidc__> 3 then :p 22:10 < slowcoder> hyarion: With the LCD code we've got now, it's just like the "new" 4Gs and the Nano 22:10 < slowcoder> Adressing is changed a bit, and initialization is very different (but that's fixed by the kernel) 22:10 < hyarion> oh, I thought it was 18bit instead of 16 22:11 < slowcoder> hyarion: So did I.. But it probably is, once we figure out the real LCD interface 22:11 < hyarion> k, thanks 22:14 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 22:21 < slowcoder> Anyhow, dont even think about porting doom to the video quite yet 22:21 < aegray_> why not? 22:21 < slowcoder> The LCD is _waaay_ too slow 22:22 < hyarion> it would bring back old nxdoom memories :) 22:22 < aegray_> haha 22:24 < hyarion> but I guess it wouldn't hurt to prepare for a video port... 22:27 < hyarion> what is hw_version for video ipod? 22:27 < josh_> hyarion: 0xbXXXX 22:28 < hyarion> thanks josh_ 22:29 -!- Guru_degroote [n=afwazig8@dsl249-79-100.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #iPodLinux 22:29 < Guru_degroote> hello 22:29 < Guru_degroote> i have a Q 22:30 < slowcoder> I have a Z 22:30 < slowcoder> I win 22:30 < Guru_degroote> i cant install the 1.3 version on my Ipod 20 G Photo 22:30 < Guru_degroote> lol :P 22:30 < Guru_degroote> i have installed 1.2 on my photo and it didnt work 22:30 < hyarion> I can't find a q in there 22:30 < Guru_degroote> wel 22:31 < Guru_degroote> is there a installation for the 4th Gen? 22:31 < Guru_degroote> so i can play doom and stuff? 22:31 < Guru_degroote> my Ipod is ow currently empty 22:32 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 < Guru_degroote> anyone? 22:33 < aegray_> sure 22:33 < Guru_degroote> can you help me aegray_ 22:33 < aegray_> no 22:33 < Guru_degroote> omg 22:34 < aegray_> omg 22:34 < aegray_> read the wiki 22:34 < Guru_degroote> well my english isnt THAT goo 22:34 < Guru_degroote> and i only see work in progress 22:34 < aegray_> work in progress? 22:34 < Guru_degroote> but in a magazine in Holland they said you could install linux for your ipod photo 22:34 < Guru_degroote> yeah 22:34 < aegray_> my time is valuable - i bill 40$ / hour 22:34 < Vanquisher> lol 22:34 < aegray_> if you want help, i have to charge exorbanent fees 22:35 < Guru_degroote> money isnt a option 22:35 < aegray_> or however you spell that 22:35 < aegray_> guess you're SOL then aren't you 22:35 < Vanquisher> bitant* 22:35 < Guru_degroote> i mean a issue :) 22:35 < Vanquisher> exorbitant 22:35 < hyarion> aegray_: be nice to him :) 22:35 < Guru_degroote> i just want an answer :: Is there a linux for my Ipod photo ? 22:36 < aegray_> yes 22:36 < Guru_degroote> please 22:36 < slowcoder> YES 22:36 < Guru_degroote> where can i find it then? 22:36 < Guru_degroote> cuz i search everywhere 22:36 < slowcoder> www.ipodlinux.org 22:36 < Guru_degroote> ... tell me where then plz cuz i cant find it 22:36 < Guru_degroote> i searched... i looked i did everything 22:36 < aegray_> he just did 22:37 < Guru_degroote> on the download section? 22:37 < Guru_degroote> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinuxinst/ 22:37 < Guru_degroote> there? 22:37 < Guru_degroote> well you cant download it 22:37 < josh_> 14:36 < slowcoder> www.ipodlinux.org 22:37 < josh_> 14:36 < slowcoder> www.ipodlinux.org 22:37 < josh_> get it? 22:37 < Guru_degroote> i know... 22:37 < aegray_> read the documentation section 22:37 < Guru_degroote> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinuxinst/ -->> i get that screen then for the windows installer 22:38 < slowcoder> *spoonfeeding in progress* 22:38 < slowcoder> 1. You'll need to do a manual install 22:38 < slowcoder> 2. Follow the installation instructions for the other 4G iPods 22:38 < slowcoder> 3. Use the nighlies from http://homepage.mac.com/slowcoder/ipl/ 22:38 < slowcoder> 4. Smile 22:38 < hyarion> hosted on apple's server :) 22:39 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:39 < Guru_degroote> i ned to download all that files on that slowcoder/ipl/ 22:39 < slowcoder> Cute, isnt it ? :) 22:40 < slowcoder> Nope, just the lastest kernel and podzilla 22:40 < Guru_degroote> oki tnx i only need those 2? or i need more files? 22:41 < slowcoder> Read the goddamn webpage 22:41 < slowcoder> See point 2 22:42 < Guru_degroote> the installation point? 22:42 < aegray_> point 2 - read the directions 22:42 < slowcoder> Yes.. Where i told you to follow the instructions 22:44 < Guru_degroote> ow i got a installer for my ipod but its MAC only it says 22:44 < aegray_> read that whole documentation section 22:44 < ph03n1x> http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_4G_Installer_using_Nightly_Builds 22:47 < ph03n1x> if my ipl locks up is there a log i can check out or similar? 22:47 < josh_> ph03n1x: nope 22:47 < Guru_degroote> dude i need to change all kind of things?? isnt there just an installer? 22:47 < ph03n1x> go away you lazy bastard 22:48 < ph03n1x> @josh how do you debug & develop stuff then? 22:48 < Guru_degroote> sry.. iam just not as good in this kind of stuff 22:49 < aegray_> Guru_degroote: then this probably isn't for you 22:49 < ph03n1x> dont do it then and wait till it's official otherwise you'll only screw your ipod 22:49 < josh_> ph03n1x: you generally have to modify the code to write debugging info to a file 22:49 < josh_> which, by the way, makes it much slower 22:49 < ph03n1x> oic 22:50 < ph03n1x> hmm no syslog possible? 22:50 < aegray_> theres dmesg 22:50 < ph03n1x> ah k gonna have a look if i can find something 22:51 < Guru_degroote> aegray_ i have downloaded the Naycon instaler.rar maybe this helps me 22:51 < Guru_degroote> tnx anyways appriciated 22:51 < aegray_> try it you can always restore - just bookmark the troubleshoting page on the wiki 22:52 < ph03n1x> hmm but does dmesg save the output somewhere? 22:52 < aegray_> not sure 22:52 < ph03n1x> /var/log is empty 22:54 < josh_> ph03n1x: it doesn't save it anywhere 22:54 < ph03n1x> ok ty 22:54 < ph03n1x> sry for the many questions, just playing around with ipl :D 22:55 -!- Guru_degroote [n=afwazig8@dsl249-79-100.fastxdsl.nl] has quit [] 22:56 < ph03n1x> what kind of partition is the first one on the ipod? 22:58 < josh_> ph03n1x: raw data 22:58 < josh_> partition code 0 22:58 < josh_> the second one is b 22:58 < ph03n1x> that means i better don't mess with it ;) 22:58 < josh_> and the Linux one is 83 22:58 < josh_> (those values are in hex) 22:58 < ph03n1x> yup fdisk 22:58 < josh_> ph03n1x: correct. ah, I thought you wanted to know how to recreate it :P 22:59 < ph03n1x> nah i'm just exploring stuff ;) 23:00 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:01 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dslc-213-023-148-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["jezz rundumerneuert -> #lw-rulez und http://www.lw-rulez.de.vu"] 23:03 -!- Blipus [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-235-142.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:03 < Blipus> hey, what's up with the SourceForge CVS? 23:03 < ph03n1x> down 23:03 < ph03n1x> at least anonymous 23:03 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp742572pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 < Blipus> is it sourceforge's problem, or did someone here do something? 23:04 < ph03n1x> they have problems with projects beginning with i,j, ... according to there website 23:04 < Blipus> oh, okay 23:04 < Blipus> i didn't see that, thanks 23:04 < ph03n1x> np welcom 23:06 -!- Blipus [n=raoul@cpe-65-27-235-142.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:09 < mfgalizi> I have one final question. Does the IPod video have enough extra horse power to play vorbis files? 23:10 < ph03n1x> should 23:11 < ph03n1x> i think ogg is possible on all, correct me if im wrong 23:12 < meatmanek> I think I have heard that, though I'm not sure. 23:12 < ph03n1x> errm no only PP5020 23:12 < ph03n1x> http://ipodlinux.org/Project_Status 23:13 < mfgalizi> yeah. 23:13 < mfgalizi> and past 128 it doesn't make a dif? like 192 is ok as well? 23:14 < ph03n1x> no idea 23:14 < davidc__> the ipod video doesn't have extra horse power 23:14 -!- bryndza [i=zilla@hron.fei.tuke.sk] has quit ["BitchX: it does a body good"] 23:14 < davidc__> its main processor is identical 23:14 < davidc__> it just has a dedicated video decoder / lcd driver IC 23:16 < mfgalizi> ty 23:16 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-088-064-064-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:16 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 23:19 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h110n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:20 < hyarion> does the 5th gen ipod have firewire? 23:21 < mfgalizi> dont think so 23:22 < hyarion> maybe someone should change the wiki then... 23:23 < mfgalizi> I think there is an adapter for it though. 23:29 -!- Quarryman [i=quarry@195.1.25.232] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:30 < ph03n1x> nite all 23:30 -!- ph03n1x [n=ph03n1x@catv-57-217.scheferag.ch] has quit ["cu"] 23:33 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h155n8c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:38 < KoSoVaR> guys :( 23:38 < KoSoVaR> my ipod isn't installing it :p 23:42 < KoSoVaR> uhm i think theres something wrong with it. 23:42 < KoSoVaR> :p 23:42 < KoSoVaR> anyone? :p 23:44 -!- AileStrike [n=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:44 -!- BamaWOLF [n=dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:48 -!- NeRnEr [i=NeRnEr@84.13.86.162] has joined #ipodlinux 23:50 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@ool-44c7b896.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 -!- BamaWOLF [n=dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:54 -!- SpeTIX [n=SpeTIX@host63-24.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 < kantlivelong> why me lol 23:54 -!- BamaWOLF [n=dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 -!- AileStrike [n=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:56 -!- AileStrike [i=WinNT@CPE0080c80c43fd-CM000f9f57ae10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < NeRnEr> would u say its safe to try install on my 4G 20gb? not colour 23:59 < kantlivelong> yeah 23:59 < kantlivelong> i have on my 4g non color 23:59 < kantlivelong> runs fine --- Log closed Thu Nov 03 00:00:00 2005