--- Log opened Mon Oct 10 00:00:01 2005 00:06 -!- phoenix_ [n=phoenix@dsl081-064-059.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:07 -!- Amund [i=NewAmund@216-105-127.5002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ipodlinux 00:29 -!- Amund [i=NewAmund@216-105-127.5002.adsl.tele2.no] has quit [] 00:34 -!- gnub [i=1000@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:35 < gnub> aw man i left my usb cable at my friends house :( 01:00 -!- Amund [i=NewAmund@216-105-127.5002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ipodlinux 01:06 -!- jaebird [n=jaebird@208.184.145.65] has joined #ipodlinux 01:19 -!- PALERMO [n=jftm@201.154.55.5] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 -!- Amund [i=NewAmund@216-105-127.5002.adsl.tele2.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:42 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:46 -!- RAYMONDE [n=jftm@201.154.55.5] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 -!- PALERMO [n=jftm@201.154.55.5] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:46 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:47 -!- rezk [i=HydraIRC@cmung210.cmu.carnet.hr] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 -!- rezk [i=HydraIRC@cmung210.cmu.carnet.hr] has quit [Client Quit] 01:51 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:54 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:08 -!- RAYMONDE [n=jftm@201.154.55.5] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:12 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:17 -!- Hobart [i=jb@jb.org] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:18 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [] 02:33 -!- jzaun [n=jzaun@72.234.6.7] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < jzaun> I'm running into a bit od coding trouble. does microwindows support transparent gifs? I'm loading one in, but when its dispayed the background is black, not transparent 02:36 < aegray> are you specifying the transparency color? 02:36 < aegray> dunno if you have to or not 02:37 < jzaun> aegray: I've looked through all the header files for microwindows I can see, but nothing about transparentsy that I can find... no way to set it :-( 02:38 < aegray> GrArea(window_id, gc, x, y, width, height, image_data, 02:38 < aegray> MWPF_TRUECOLOR565); 02:38 < aegray> image-data= 02:38 < aegray> (has item) 02:38 < aegray> long transcolor; /* image transparent color or -1 if none*/ 02:38 < aegray> http://www.microwindows.org/ProgrammingIntro2.html 02:39 < jzaun> so no functions, just manipulating the struct.. :-) fun 02:48 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:49 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:50 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 02:50 -!- jzaun [n=jzaun@72.234.6.7] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:50 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Client Quit] 02:51 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 02:51 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:52 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 02:52 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:54 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:56 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 < jmstacey> what file is the pz_error(); function located in? 03:01 < aegray> grep it 03:02 < masquerade> message.c 03:02 < masquerade> line 184 03:03 < masquerade> the prototype is in pz.h 03:03 < masquerade> line 56 03:03 < aegray> yay grep! 03:03 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:03 < masquerade> masquerade@localhost ~/ipodlinux/podzilla $ fgrep -Hn 'void pz_error(' * 03:03 < masquerade> message.c:184:void pz_error(char *fmt, ...) 03:03 < masquerade> pz.h:56:void pz_error(char *fmt, ...); 03:03 < masquerade> :D 03:03 < aegray> whats fgrep compared to grep? 03:04 < masquerade> file grep 03:04 < masquerade> I think fgrep is actually about the same as grep 03:04 < aegray> when i execute fgrep it gives me the usage for grep 03:04 < masquerade> as will egrep 03:05 < aegray> whats that one 03:05 < masquerade> In addition, two variant programs egrep and fgrep are available. Egrep 03:05 < masquerade> is the same as grep -E. Fgrep is the same as grep -F. 03:05 < masquerade> man 1 grep 03:05 < aegray> ok 03:05 < aegray> so fgrep isn't really file grep 03:05 * masquerade curses at this fan sqeeking in his laptop and begins to take it apart 03:06 < masquerade> what's grep -F 03:06 < aegray> list of fixed strings 03:06 < masquerade> oh, strange 03:06 < masquerade> someone tought me it was file grep 03:06 * masquerade slaps that person 03:06 < aegray> that bastard! 03:07 < masquerade> anyways, gotta fix this damned sweeking 03:07 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit ["taking this computer to pieces and reassembling, back in < 5"] 03:07 < aegray> k 03:10 -!- sleepster is now known as typester 03:10 < jmstacey> aegray: mpdc has a problem when trying to queue to many songs at once (e.g. Queue all songs in your library or for a big artiest (e.g. Beatles)). Do you have any suggestions, how I could optimize this without getting rid of the queue system? 03:15 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:15 -!- lathrop [i=lathrop@66-168-20-63.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:15 -!- snowbird [n=_DK_Dipl@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:17 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@*.skrodahl.net ] by davidc__ 03:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@*.skrodahl.net ] by davidc__ 03:19 < aegray> ok then 03:20 < davidc__> aegray - hmm? 03:20 < masquerade> squeeky fixed 03:20 < aegray> wasn't sure what the deal was 03:20 < aegray> didn't know who that was 03:20 < davidc__> forgot the .dev on the end 03:21 < aegray> haha 03:31 < jmstacey> I'd like to display the status as mpdc queue's songs (something like Queueing x of x. Standby...) How can I display this? I tried sprintf(); and pz_error(); but since the commands are in a for( the screen updates so fast that the box remains white and unreadable throughout the process 03:32 < jmstacey> any suggestions? 03:32 < jonrelay> Program it to only update every second or something. 03:32 < jonrelay> (It'll make it faster anyway since it's only drawing it part of the time.) 03:32 < jmstacey> Hmm, so like every 5th time a loop is made might work 03:33 -!- snowbird [n=_DK_Dipl@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has quit [] 03:33 < jonrelay> I'd make it based on real time, but if you want to do it that way why not. 03:33 < jmstacey> jonrelay: Otherwise, how can I put a time delay (other than what I mentioned) inside a for? 03:33 < jmstacey> for loop 03:34 < jonrelay> Usually I have an int to hold the current ticks or seconds or whatever, and I only update progress when (current - my int) is bigger than some value, then I refresh the int with the new time. 03:35 < jonrelay> e.g. int t = ticks(); for (...) { if ((ticks()-t)>60) { draw(); t = ticks(); } ... } 03:38 < jmstacey> is ticks(), an actual function in podzilla, or is that just an exmple? 03:38 < jonrelay> Example. 03:38 < jonrelay> I don't know the actual function to get ticks in C by memory. 03:39 < aegray> anyone know where i can get the executable lame? 03:39 < aegray> not just the library? 03:40 < masquerade> aegray, you can compile it from source 03:40 < aegray> fun 03:40 < aegray> thnx 03:41 < masquerade> getting a binary wouldn't be easy 03:41 < jonrelay> Try downloading from http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Lame_Encoder.htm 03:42 < jonrelay> There's an exe in the zip file. 03:42 < masquerade> the patent shit with mp3 encoders has generally discouraged distributing binaries, its illegal and all that 03:42 < aegray> exe... 03:42 < masquerade> jonrelay, /me points to CTCP VERSION on aegrey 03:42 < aegray> haha 03:43 < masquerade> aegray, how comes you dont have your version show your OS? 03:43 * jonrelay doesn't know what CTCP is 03:43 < aegray> i dunno 03:43 < aegray> how do you set that up? 03:43 * jonrelay is dumb 03:43 -!- snowasd [n=soo@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 < aegray> i've never bothered to configure it 03:43 < masquerade> strange, its always been automatic here, and there's nothing in the CTCP replies section 03:43 < snowasd> could i speak to anyone whos here that has successfully installed podzilla onto ther 4g (non color) ipod 03:44 < aegray> what's your question? 03:44 < masquerade> snowasd, sure, gimme your phone number and you can speak to me 03:44 < snowasd> .. 03:44 < snowasd> im being serious 03:44 * masquerade logs on to that site that buys personal information and awaits snowasd's response 03:44 < masquerade> I'm being literal 03:44 -!- snowasd is now known as snowbird[scs] 03:45 < snowbird[scs]> can someone pm me if they can help 03:45 < aegray> just ask your question 03:45 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], no, PMs are an evil sign from god, ask your question or read the wiki 03:46 < snowbird[scs]> ok well ive gone thru the http://ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer process...followed every step and used the podzilla that they have in that one 03:46 < snowbird[scs]> i booted it up, it worked, but the screen was blank and but i could hear clicks 03:46 < snowbird[scs]> i tried the contrast thing it said to od 03:46 < snowbird[scs]> didnt work 03:46 < aegray> you might have to downgrade firmware 03:47 < snowbird[scs]> link? 03:47 < aegray> nope - gotta find it yourself 03:47 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], you may have missed too, try viewing your screen at an angle, i can read mine at the right angle to make sure you're changing the right setting 03:47 < aegray> i'm legaly 03:47 < aegray> bound 03:47 < aegray> you might have to look on softpedia.com 03:47 < snowbird[scs]> no no no 03:47 < snowbird[scs]> well heres another thing 03:48 < snowbird[scs]> i tried using the 4ginstaller with the latest nightly build 03:48 < snowbird[scs]> i could see the screen and i could hear it 03:48 < snowbird[scs]> i changed the contrast so i could see 03:48 < snowbird[scs]> but everything was backwards 03:48 < snowbird[scs]> the screen was overlapping itself 03:49 < snowbird[scs]> this was when i used the 4ginstaller and then downloaded the new nightly build 03:49 < masquerade> strange 03:49 < snowbird[scs]> so in conclusion 03:49 < snowbird[scs]> it 1/2 works with new nightly build and the 4g installer 03:49 < zsr> lol 03:50 < snowbird[scs]> and only sound works with the 4ginstaller itself 03:50 < masquerade> check your hw revision and pray that there wasnt a B&W revision that nobody here got 03:50 < snowbird[scs]> any recommendations? 03:50 < snowbird[scs]> masq...with all do respect, i have no clue what u just asked me to do 03:50 < aegray> downgrade? 03:50 < snowbird[scs]> im doing that right noiw 03:51 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], wrong use of do, its due 03:51 < snowbird[scs]> my sincerest apologies 03:51 * masquerade chops snowbird[scs]'s knuckles with a ruler 03:52 < josh_> haha 03:52 < snowbird[scs]> wat updater should i b using 03:52 < snowbird[scs]> i have them all now 03:52 < josh_> *what *I *be 03:52 < josh_> :P 03:52 * josh_ doing courtc's job re:grammar patrol 03:52 < masquerade> at any rate, like aegrey said, try downgrading, probably one version at a time 03:52 < masquerade> josh_, hey, save some of the action for me 03:53 < josh_> okay :P 03:53 < snowbird[scs]> Okay. :P. ** 03:54 < josh_> haha. aegray & friends: sorry I haven't been around too much this weekend, I've been pretty busy 03:54 < aegray> ahem...aegrAy 03:54 < josh_> \end{grammar_nazi} 03:56 < snowbird[scs]> mmm...nazi's 03:56 * snowbird[scs] droolzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz. 03:56 < jonrelay> Nazis. Apostrophe is for possessive, not plural. 03:57 < josh_> hahaha 03:57 < snowbird[scs]> possesive, you say? but i do possess them 03:57 < jonrelay> It's posseSSive. 03:58 < snowbird[scs]> HA 03:58 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], wrong person doing the posessiong, the nazi's would be possessing 03:58 < snowbird[scs]> i got it to work 03:58 < snowbird[scs]> thanks person who said to downgrade 03:58 < jonrelay> If you possess them then they're your nazis, not you're nazi's. 03:58 < snowbird[scs]> <3 03:58 < masquerade> the hell is that? 03:58 < masquerade> less than three, hmm 03:58 < josh_> supposedly it's a heart 03:58 < josh_> just like :-) is a simley face 03:58 < josh_> *smiley 03:59 < josh_> or maybe <3 is an ice cream cone... never figured that one out. 03:59 -!- Nowhereman999 [n=nowhere@Toronto-HSE-ppp3675373.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 < snowbird[scs]> nobody for sure knows what it is 03:59 < jonrelay> No, C> is an ice cream cone. 03:59 < masquerade> wait, you can't have something that you have to turn your head to the right to see 03:59 < snowbird[scs]> all i know is, i direct it to whomever told me to downgrade 03:59 < masquerade> er, to the left I mean 03:59 < jonrelay> Or a DOS prompt, depending. 03:59 < josh_> snowbird[scs]: what generation iPod? 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> 4g 20 gb 04:00 < josh_> color? 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> neg 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> b n w 04:00 < courtc> *grayscale 04:00 < josh_> it's actualy B&W&LG&DG 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> wow...im a failur 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> failure* 04:00 < snowbird[scs]> SORRY 04:00 < josh_> (LG = light gray, DG = dark ...) 04:00 * snowbird[scs] dies. 04:00 < josh_> haha 04:01 < aegray> i hate you 04:01 < masquerade> aegray, the feeling is mutual 04:01 < masquerade> but i hate you all in a good way 04:01 < courtc> who me? 04:01 < aegray> got lame ! 04:01 < josh_> courtc: huh? 04:01 < courtc> what? 04:01 < josh_> aegray: put that in the topic 04:01 < josh_> got lame? 04:01 < aegray> which? 04:01 < josh_> courtc: why'd you say "who me"? 04:01 < josh_> er "who me?"? 04:02 < courtc> did i? 04:02 < courtc> who me? 04:02 < josh_> is this the question game? 04:02 < courtc> huh? 04:02 < snowbird[scs]> do i always gotta put hold on to get into IPL? 04:02 < josh_> haha (?) 04:02 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], no, hold rewind 04:02 < snowbird[scs]> ? 04:02 < snowbird[scs]> wat? 04:02 < josh_> snowbird[scs]: or any other button 04:02 < courtc> laughing isn't a question 04:03 < josh_> hold down the |<< button instead of flicking hold, that works 04:03 * courtc win! 04:03 < josh_> okay, you win. 04:03 < snowbird[scs]> cuz i just did hold and it resetted my IPL 04:03 < josh_> snowbird[scs]: well don't do that then! 04:03 < josh_> seriously: that shouldn't happen. is it repeatable? 04:04 < courtc> submerge it in holy water. 04:04 < iplbot> Sarcasm-O-Meter: 110% 04:04 < jonrelay> Then you'll see the Virgin Mary in it and all will be OK. 04:05 < courtc> I'm off teh scale! 04:05 < josh_> "the scale": |0 20 40 60 80 100| 04:05 < josh_> "teh scale": |0 50 100| 04:05 < josh_> sure, you may be off teh scale, but are you off the scale? :P 04:06 < courtc> teh skale: |0 100| 04:07 < jonrelay> deh skeille: || 04:07 < courtc> that's a bit useless. 04:08 < jonrelay> It's so short compared to the others you can't even see deh nummbrez. 04:08 < courtc> iplbot, rate me on t3h s<413 04:08 < iplbot> I assume you meant donation. The best way to show your appreciation for the project is to make a donation. Funds are used to purchase newer iPods for the development team to port linux onto. You can make a donation at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Donations [from courtc] 04:08 < josh_> hahahahahaha 04:08 < courtc> dammit. 04:09 < josh_> read ~[wiki IPLbot]: 04:09 < courtc> `karma courtc 04:09 < josh_> (hey iplbot, wake up) 04:09 < iplbot> IPLbot (http://www.ipodlinux.org/IPLbot) [2235 bytes] 04:09 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 170. 04:09 < courtc> wee! 04:09 < aegray> iplbot: go blow josh_ 04:09 < iplbot> I'm off blowing josh_ [from aegray] 04:09 < josh_> `karma josh_ 04:09 < iplbot> josh_'s karma is 175. 04:09 < aegray> yea! 04:09 < courtc> hmm.. 04:09 < courtc> I'm falling behind. 04:10 < josh_> `excellent courtc 04:10 < josh_> `excellent courtc 04:10 < aegray> `great courtc 04:10 < josh_> there 04:10 < iplbot> courtc is a nice guy. 04:10 < iplbot> Just don't ask him to do anything.... 04:10 < iplbot> Seriously [from aegray] 04:10 < iplbot> I assume you meant courtc. 04:10 < aegray> what? 04:10 < josh_> your options are good and excellent. 04:10 < josh_> no "great" 04:10 < aegray> `very good courtc 04:10 < josh_> it assumed you meant `courtc 04:10 < iplbot> courtc is a nice guy. 04:10 < aegray> eat shit 04:10 < iplbot> Just don't ask him to do anything.... 04:10 < iplbot> Seriously [from aegray] 04:10 < iplbot> I assume you meant courtc. 04:10 < aegray> haha 04:10 < courtc> I'm working on mlist iplbot 04:10 < josh_> `karma courtc 04:10 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 179. 04:11 < josh_> you don't need to address it, you know 04:11 < courtc> I know. 04:13 < courtc> iplbot, I love you 04:13 < iplbot> I love you too. [from courtc] 04:14 < courtc> jonrelay: why sqlite? 04:15 < josh_> courtc: it's SQL and it's lite (= fast)? 04:15 < jonrelay> As opposed to another DB or as opposed to not a DB? 04:16 < courtc> as opposed to not having a database on th ipod 04:16 < jonrelay> Because huge ptext dictionaries didn't work. 04:16 < josh_> courtc: it's for ptext, which was too slow for big dictionaries without sqlite 04:17 < courtc> :/ 04:17 < snowbird[scs]> funny how everything on my 4g works now, sept when i try to listen to music 04:18 < snowbird[scs]> i click a song and it says Malloc Failed 04:18 < jonrelay> I have it as another make directive; you have to specify PTEXT_DB=1 to compile it in. Otherwise it uses the old system. 04:18 -!- Smeven [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 < Smeven> yo 04:18 < josh_> oy 04:18 < Smeven> genki desu kda? 04:18 < Smeven> genki desu ka? 04:18 < josh_> um... english please? 04:18 < Smeven> gomen 04:19 < Smeven> hehe 04:19 < josh_> haha 04:19 < Capso> Smeven: Fine. 04:19 < Capso> Smeven: You? 04:19 < Smeven> genk 04:19 < josh_> Capso: what language is it? 04:19 < Smeven> japanese 04:19 < Capso> Josh_: Japanese. 04:19 < courtc> genki 04:19 < Smeven> nihongo 04:19 < josh_> that was my guess, but I didn't want to prove my ignorance by guessing wrong... 04:19 < Smeven> genk is slang 04:19 < Capso> Smeven: And it's "O-genki desu ka?" 04:19 < Smeven> Capso: slang 04:20 < Capso> We're not your close friends. 04:20 < Smeven> lol 04:20 < Smeven> well, go ahead and move to japan for a couple years then you can decide how its said 04:20 < josh_> Capso: on the Internet, everyone is everyone else's close friend, at least in terms of formal vs. informal tone 04:20 < courtc> yea, but you don't come on irc and say "Hello sir or madam, how are you today?" 04:20 < josh_> exactly 04:21 < Smeven> Anyhow 04:21 < Smeven> I was wondering if people had little issues on ipl like i am having (esp with podzilla) 04:21 < Capso> I don't give a damn. 04:21 < snowbird[scs]> i have an issue 04:21 < Smeven> like songs taking a while to load, some songs not playing correct, etc. 04:21 < snowbird[scs]> with my 4g...everything works but sound 04:21 < snowbird[scs]> my songs play, but its all glitchy 04:22 < Smeven> i have a photo, and i have some songs that dont play right 04:22 < courtc> the topic should say: We don't give a damn about your issues. 04:22 < Smeven> lol 04:22 < Smeven> i am here to work on getting it working :) 04:22 < Smeven> I am gonna rebuild somethings and load them to the pod 04:22 < Smeven> I got cross dev setup and the stuff to build a rootfs 04:22 -!- dangerduck_ [n=dangerdu@66-168-183-239.dhcp.clmb.ga.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:23 < jonrelay> Is there any way to delete a user or change their password in MediaWiki (as a sysop)? 04:23 < courtc> have fun, but remember, it's an ipod. 04:23 < Smeven> yeah.... 04:23 < snowbird[scs]> whats an ipod 04:23 < Smeven> I am going to keep it minimal 04:24 < jonrelay> It's "What's an iPod?" 04:24 < Smeven> lol 04:24 < jedix> iDunno 04:24 < Smeven> I asked this yesterday but didnt get an answer. 04:24 < jedix> get it? 04:24 < Smeven> I was wondering if one of you knew... 04:24 < Smeven> Why does ipl use kernel 2.4.x and not 2.6.x? 04:24 < jedix> best joke I've made today. 04:24 < Smeven> Is it a mem/speed issue? 04:24 < josh_> jedix: ha. ha. ha 04:25 < jonrelay> I told you, it's because 2.6.x had bugs that corrupted the file system! 04:25 < Smeven> oh 04:25 < Smeven> I missed that. 04:25 < courtc> Smeven: why th puch for 2.6? 04:25 < masquerade> jonrelay, so, a 2.6 kernel actually works if the corruption bugs are fixed? 04:25 < courtc> ahh! 04:25 < jedix> jonrelay: what ipod linux runs reiserfs? 04:25 < jonrelay> Possibly. 04:25 < courtc> Smeven: why the push for 2.6? 04:26 < jmstacey> scheduler 04:26 * masquerade would push for 2.6 just so he could patch in -ck and have a scheduler that is sane 04:26 < Smeven> courtc: been wanting to test some of the new stuff 04:26 < Smeven> scheduler, rt patches, etc 04:26 < jedix> probably because of the amound of work it would be to get ucLinux to go to 2.6 04:26 < masquerade> the 2.6 scheduler sucks ass 04:27 < masquerade> anticipatory is a turd 04:27 < Smeven> plus, i have had really good results using 2.6 on embedded hardware 04:27 < jedix> masquerade: it's modulized though.. 04:27 < snowbird[scs]> audio on 4g is messeg 04:27 < snowbird[scs]> messed* 04:27 < courtc> heh 04:27 < Smeven> courtc: have you attempted 2.6 on the ipod? 04:27 < masquerade> jedix, yes, I know, which is why I'd patch in staircase 04:27 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 < courtc> Smeven: yea, ide bugs 04:28 < jedix> masquerade: there are a few choices now, if you don't like anticipatory 04:28 < Smeven> that sucks 04:28 < masquerade> jedix, did I not just say that I know? 04:28 < courtc> deadline 04:28 < jedix> okay, sorry. 04:28 < Smeven> courtc: i think i may attempt 2.6 and see how it goes. 04:28 < Smeven> What is the worst that can happen 04:29 < courtc> Smeven: umm.. have fun 04:29 < Smeven> hehe 04:29 < masquerade> Smeven, report back if you get it working without the corruption bugs 04:29 < Smeven> ok 04:29 < Smeven> when you compile apps for the ipod what -O level do you use? 04:29 < Smeven> -Os? 04:30 < courtc> -O0 04:30 < masquerade> I don't think anyone has fiddled with -O out of fear 04:30 < Smeven> Bad question....why? 04:31 < courtc> why Os? 04:31 < Smeven> on the embedded stuff i have worked with -Os has seemed to work the best due to lack of cache 04:31 * masquerade compiled with -O2 the other day but not for the ipod 04:31 < Smeven> gives the best perfomance compared to -O2 or 3 04:31 < masquerade> podzilla that is 04:32 < courtc> optimized stuff is hell to debug. 04:33 < Smeven> eyah 04:33 < Smeven> yeah 04:33 < Smeven> anyone ever attempted to use fbsplash with the ipod? 04:34 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:34 < courtc> I did with bootsplash, but it wouldn't run iirc 04:34 < Smeven> (sorry for all the questions) 04:34 < jedix> I heard of someone using the `quite` mode 04:34 * courtc 04:34 < courtc> quiet* 04:34 < Smeven> I just want to get lots of questions answered before I setup the build env for the ipod 04:34 < jedix> courtc: that too :) 04:34 < courtc> yea, lots of artifacts, not really worth it. 04:35 < snowbird[scs]> im a lil confused with step 1 in http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_nightly_build_installation 04:35 < Smeven> artifacts? 04:35 < snowbird[scs]> can someone explain to me what i do 04:35 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.159.116.234.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:35 < courtc> Wow, yoou made it all the way to step one. 04:35 < Smeven> lol 04:35 < snowbird[scs]> indeed i did 04:36 < Mr_Milenko> ? 04:36 < snowbird[scs]> im so glad u take it in ur heart to b so kind to people who arent very familiar with this 04:36 < snowbird[scs]> i appreciate it 04:36 < Smeven> lol 04:36 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:36 * masquerade knows snowbird[scs] wasn't talking to him, that's for sure 04:36 < snowbird[scs]> hahahaha 04:36 < snowbird[scs]> 1. Install Ipod Linux using the standard procedure including updates and ensure that you take a backup of the firmware. 04:36 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:37 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], you have ipodlinux installed on your ipod right? good, step one finished 04:37 < blindx> kRz | Ex-Soldier Cloud Strife - For What Stands True. Memories That Must Be Dealt With. says: 04:37 < blindx> im a complete idiot when it comes to computers 04:37 < blindx> alright 04:37 < blindx> ;blind«·· says: 04:37 < blindx> then ya probably shouldn't be trying to put linux on your ipod 04:37 < snowbird[scs]> sorry for being a "noob", but what is this telling me to do 04:37 < courtc> If you only know how many people I've walked through installation perhaps you would search the wiki and forum. 04:37 < courtc> knew* 04:37 < snowbird[scs]> ive completey removed linux from my ipod 04:37 < snowbird[scs]> im starting from scratch 04:37 * courtc can't spell tonight. 04:37 < courtc> s/tonight/ever/ 04:37 < masquerade> snowbird[scs], well, put it back on, you need it on there 04:37 < Mr_Milenko> lol 04:37 < snowbird[scs]> do i just put the one from 4ginstaller on ther? 04:37 < masquerade> yep 04:37 < snowbird[scs]> k 04:38 < Mr_Milenko> dont be scuured... its only linux 04:38 < Smeven> haha 04:38 < courtc> thhe 4gs and 4g installers are not supported. 04:38 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:38 < snowbird[scs]> thanks tips 04:38 < snowbird[scs]> the big blue Unsupported sign led me right to that conclusion 04:38 < snowbird[scs]> but thankts anyways 04:38 < Smeven> well, i will let you guys know how the build from scratch works. 04:39 < Mr_Milenko> You can ask in here for help i guess... but dont go crying if you get flamed :-/ 04:39 -!- dangerdu [n=dangerdu@66-168-183-239.dhcp.clmb.ga.charter.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:39 < masquerade> Smeven, with 2.6? 04:39 < Mr_Milenko> i myself used the 4g installer 04:39 < courtc> So that's why you are asking for help, eh? 04:39 < Smeven> masquerade: yes 04:39 * masquerade takes a preemptive stab at Smeven 04:39 < masquerade> that's in case you fail and let me down 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> snowbird[scs]: http://www.evileyez.org/linux_on_ipod_mini 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> just read that 04:40 < snowbird[scs]> its not an ipod mini 04:40 < Smeven> masquerade: i am just going make an automated build script to grab the newest packages, and some stuff from cvs, then make a rootfs image 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> oh 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> lol 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> what is it 04:40 < snowbird[scs]> 4g greyscale 20 gb 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> Smeven: compile me a build of iBoy that works on 2g mini's 04:40 < Smeven> think i am going to take a stab uclinux 2.6.13 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> and ill give you a cookie 04:40 < Mr_Milenko> k? 04:41 < Smeven> Mr_Milenko: i know nothing about 2g mini 04:41 < masquerade> Mr_Milenko, hahaha, good luck with that 04:41 < Smeven> anyhow 04:41 < Smeven> bbl 04:41 < Mr_Milenko> anythings possible masquerade 04:41 < Mr_Milenko> just takes time 04:41 < Smeven> I will let you know how it works out 04:41 < masquerade> Mr_Milenko, the screen is cut off on regular 4Gs, i dunno how anyone expects to see everything on the mini :-P 04:41 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:41 < snowbird[scs]> i have it installed 04:41 < snowbird[scs]> now wat 04:41 < masquerade> step 2 04:41 < jedix> Smeven: I'm interested on how that goes as well. 04:42 < snowbird[scs]> so i do the buildID: 0x02108000 04:42 < snowbird[scs]> visibleBuildID: 0x02108000 04:42 < Mr_Milenko> masquerade: in floydzilla i saw scrrenshots of it fullscreen 04:42 < snowbird[scs]> i do that thing then do the firmware thing right? 04:42 < masquerade> Mr_Milenko, its fullscreen, but its also got a good bit cut off the top 04:42 < Mr_Milenko> no problem 04:42 < courtc> grr.. 04:42 < Mr_Milenko> doesnt need to be perfect 04:42 < Mr_Milenko> lol 04:43 < josh_> courtc: what is it? 04:43 -!- blindx2 [i=blindIRC@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:43 -!- blindx2 [i=blindIRC@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:43 < Mr_Milenko> these things just take time 04:43 < courtc> Useless Cowboys. 04:43 < snowbird[scs]> !users 04:43 < snowbird[scs]> damn 04:43 < Mr_Milenko> Linux on Xbox... took time 04:43 < josh_> snowbird[scs]: what exactly were you trying to do there? 04:43 < snowbird[scs]> lol 04:44 < snowbird[scs]> nothing 04:44 < Mr_Milenko> Compiling un-authorized code without microsofts tools for xbox.. took time (works) 04:44 < Mr_Milenko> lol 04:44 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:44 -!- blind [i=blindIRC@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:44 < blind> the fuck. 04:44 -!- blind is now known as blindx 04:44 < Mr_Milenko> you got your ass handed to you by services 04:44 < snowbird[scs]> i did the buildid and visiblebuildid thing, do i update the update and then its uninstalled? 04:44 < Mr_Milenko> :-/ 04:44 < blindx> eff services 04:45 * courtc kicks snowbird[scs], Mr_Milenko and Smeven in the shin. 04:45 < masquerade> i have no clue, i do everything from my linux box 04:45 * Mr_Milenko stabs courtc in the leg with a spork 04:45 < snowbird[scs]> thanks 04:45 < Mr_Milenko> ILL CUT YA!!! 04:47 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:47 < Mr_Milenko> this sucks 04:47 < Mr_Milenko> i gotta roll my own fucking cigarettes :-/ 04:48 < snowbird[scs]> u dirty mexican 04:48 < Mr_Milenko> bitch im not messican 04:48 < snowbird[scs]> u dirty european 04:48 < Mr_Milenko> not european either 04:48 < snowbird[scs]> u dirty yankee sonofa bitch 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> better? 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> not a yankee either 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> canadian? 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> asian? 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> aussie? 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> nope 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> africano 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> nope nope 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> lies 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> ALL LIES 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> nope 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> south american? 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> north american? 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> hell no 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> european? 04:49 < Mr_Milenko> neither 04:49 < snowbird[scs]> asian? 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> african? 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> asian? 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> oceanic? 04:50 < Mr_Milenko> shut the fuck up 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> dude 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> ive said every continent 04:50 < snowbird[scs]> where the fuck u from 04:50 < jonrelay> antarctica? 04:52 < Smeven> courtc: why would you kick me :( 04:52 < snowbird[scs]> because your white 04:52 -!- snowbird[scs] [n=soo@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:52 < Smeven> lol 04:52 < Smeven> Who says Im white? 04:52 < aegray> I SAY 04:53 * Smeven is now officially white 04:53 < Smeven> bbiab 04:53 < aegray> http://www.darlugo.com/?id=124&p=10 04:53 < aegray> pretty cool 04:54 < aegray> wow 04:56 < blindx> they stole my idea 04:56 < blindx> :O 04:56 < aegray> no I STOLE IT 04:57 -!- snowbird[scs] [n=culic@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:57 < snowbird[scs]> guys we have an emergency 04:57 < blindx> lol. 04:57 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:57 < blindx> actuallly.. 04:57 < snowbird[scs]> u here 04:57 < blindx> there's a program 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> masquerade 04:58 < blindx> sphereXP 04:58 < iplbot> snowbird[scs], don't flood. 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> i have an emergency 04:58 < josh_> well what is it? 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> after i did all that masq told me to do 04:58 < Mr_Milenko> he dropped the toilet seat on his penis again 04:58 < snowbird[scs]> my ipod wont turn on...it just sits at the Apple 04:58 < blindx> sux2bu 04:59 < Mr_Milenko> let it sit for a bit 04:59 < snowbird[scs]> wth do i do 04:59 < Mr_Milenko> lol 04:59 < snowbird[scs]> im flippin out...i dont know what to do 04:59 < Mr_Milenko> plug it in 04:59 < josh_> Mr_Milenko: ~[restart] ~[diskmode] 04:59 < Mr_Milenko> download apples ipod firmware shit 04:59 < iplbot> restart is hold down Menu+Play for 3g and below, Menu+center for 4g/mini and above. [from josh_] 04:59 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from josh_] 04:59 < Mr_Milenko> lol 05:00 < Mr_Milenko> i know this 05:00 < josh_> er 05:00 < josh_> snowbird[scs]: see above 05:01 < snowbird[scs]> ok 05:01 < snowbird[scs]> wat do i do once in disk mode 05:01 < courtc> that sun os video is pretty old 05:01 < josh_> you restore the apple firmwar 05:01 < josh_> or try something else 05:01 < josh_> or whatever 05:03 < aegray> courtc: digg is slow 05:03 -!- snowbird[scs] [n=culic@64-235-206-130.access.ripnet.com] has quit [] 05:03 < aegray> courtc: but it looks cool 05:03 * aegray wonders how much of the system resources go toward the window manager 05:03 < courtc> way too much 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> someone port me fluxbox 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> :D 05:04 < aegray> whats fluxbox? 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> ... 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> you use nix 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> and you dont know what fluxbox is!? 05:04 < Mr_Milenko> based off blackbox 05:05 < courtc> It's like wally, in that it's a window manager. 05:05 < Mr_Milenko> also has a port for windows based off the BB4Win shell 05:05 < aegray> oh right 05:05 < aegray> nm i remember that 05:05 < Mr_Milenko> and the port fluxbox thing was a joke 05:05 < Mr_Milenko> o.O 05:05 < aegray> huh...X is using 30% of my cpu 05:06 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:16 < blindx> lmfao im talking to some noob who's trying to put linux on his ipod 05:16 < blindx> and he's like "but they only work for the minis" 05:16 < blindx> im like "why do you say that?" 05:16 < blindx> he goes "they say 4G on them, but i heard ofpeople geting them on their 40g and 60g" 05:17 < blindx> "no no 4g is 4 gen. not 4 gig" 05:17 < josh_> haha we get that a LOT. 05:17 < blindx> lmfao 05:20 -!- blindx is now known as blind|cig 05:23 < josh_> nite all 05:23 < blind|cig> night 05:23 < blind|cig> why am i still here? afk. 05:36 -!- blind|cig is now known as blindx 05:38 < blindx> "Is it possible to have color movies or color pictures on an ipod mini that has only black color" 05:38 < jmstacey> no 05:38 < blindx> no no 05:38 < blindx> that's not my question lol 05:38 < blindx> i pulled that off the forums 05:38 < Mr_Milenko> thats the dumbest fucking thing i ever fucking heard 05:39 < blindx> but like. what kinda person. asks that question 05:39 < Mr_Milenko> that child's parents should be shot 05:39 < blindx> lmfao 05:39 < blindx> along with their teachers 05:39 < Mr_Milenko> but.. if they have sexy older sisters 05:39 < Mr_Milenko> we may allow them to live 05:39 < Mr_Milenko> deal? 05:39 < blindx> That sounds fair. 05:40 < Mr_Milenko> ok 05:42 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:06 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:13 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:18 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:19 -!- Smeven [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:20 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:33 -!- jonrelay [n=jonrelay@66-215-52-177.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has quit ["So long and thanks for all the fish."] 06:34 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:40 -!- Nowhereman999 [n=nowhere@Toronto-HSE-ppp3675373.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 07:39 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit ["Client exiting"] 07:56 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h173n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:00 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool251-187.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:13 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:13 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- Mr_Milenko [i=Mr_Milen@dialup-4.159.116.234.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["Are you going to hell or heaven? Have you walked with the sinners or prayed with the reverand?"] 08:50 < Kingstone> anybody knows what's an ifm file? 08:50 < Kingstone> .IFM 08:50 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Success] 08:50 < Kingstone> it has something to do with font metrics 08:52 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:52 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 08:52 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 09:04 -!- gnub [i=1000@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has quit ["quit"] 09:09 -!- dioz__ [n=diozepar@216-197-160-134.regn.hssx.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 09:09 -!- Smeve1 [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 09:09 < Smeve1> hola 09:09 -!- dioz__ [n=diozepar@216-197-160-134.regn.hssx.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool242-73.nas3.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:43 -!- Prot [i=lambency@ip70-162-120-7.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:50 -!- Smeven [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 -!- Smeve1 [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:12 -!- bernd [n=bernd@pD9F7DAD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #iPodLinux 10:12 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C74A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:13 < bernd> hello everybody 10:18 -!- bernd [n=bernd@pD9F7DAD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 10:20 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:20 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 10:20 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:32 -!- Smeven [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:00 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has joined #iPodLinux 11:25 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:26 -!- Prot [i=lambency@ip70-162-120-7.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:47 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:42 -!- gnub [i=1000@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:42 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:45 -!- dangerduck__ [n=dangerdu@66-168-183-239.dhcp.clmb.ga.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:45 -!- dangerduck_ [n=dangerdu@66-168-183-239.dhcp.clmb.ga.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:45 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:46 -!- Synapse [i=bagheera@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 12:46 -!- Synapse [i=bagheera@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 13:20 -!- Smeven [n=smeven@kaam5.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 13:35 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:36 < dreadhead> anyone know of a way/app to convert digitally licensed wma files? 13:36 < blindx> oh oh oh 13:36 < blindx> i have.. 13:36 < blindx> a prog 13:36 < blindx> that unlicenses them 13:37 < blindx> so long as you have the license on your computer 13:39 < dreadhead> where can i download it blindx? 13:39 < blindx> oh 13:39 < blindx> lol 13:39 < blindx> sorry, adhd forgot i was here :P 13:39 < blindx> hang on lemme upload it 13:40 < dreadhead> blindx: how do I download it? 13:40 < blindx> I'll give you a link when I upload it 13:41 < dreadhead> blindx: oh cool, thanks :) 13:43 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 13:43 < blindx> as soon as i find it... 13:44 < blindx> think it's on the other computer 13:44 < blindx> gimmr five minutes 13:45 < dreadhead> blindx: no probs... 13:45 < blindx> or if you want... 13:45 < blindx> www.acoustica.com mp3 to wave converter. or maybe it's wave to mp3.. whatever it's titled.. it works 13:45 < blindx> for wma files 13:46 < blindx> so long as you have the license on your comp 13:49 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:05 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:09 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:10 < dreadhead> blindx: dude that prog' won't let me convert wmas to wave, only mp3...? 14:10 < blindx> ? 14:10 < blindx> it should let you convert any of the three to mp3 or wave 14:11 < dreadhead> nope... if I right click on a wma, the convert menu doesn't even appear.... 14:13 < blindx> o.o 14:13 < blindx> it works on my computer... 14:14 < gnub> <-- wants to incorporate flight into podzillas options of opening txt files 14:14 < gnub> filemanager stuff 14:14 < dreadhead> blindx: even if i drag and drop i get an unsupported format error..... 14:14 < blindx> drag and drop on what? o.O 14:15 < dreadhead> blindx: the app icon.... under program files.... that's the other way of doing it..... 14:17 < Smeven> hallo 14:18 < blindx> does it work for wave's and mp3's ? 14:18 < dreadhead> blindx: do you have the full version? maybe it's a limitation, i'll try.... 14:20 < dreadhead> blindx: yeah it works with mp3's... don't know about waves.... 14:20 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 14:20 < blindx> well lemme nab you a serial real quick 14:20 < blindx> <_< 14:22 < blindx> 2746320 14:23 < dreadhead> blindx: thanks :), i'll try now.... 14:25 < dreadhead> blindx: nope :(, must be something to do with the file i'm using... this is really annoying, i can play it on my computer but can't transfer it to my ipod! 14:25 < blindx> hm 14:25 < blindx> i don't have a link to it. 14:25 < blindx> but google.. 14:25 < blindx> imToo audio converter 14:26 < blindx> does just about every file format 14:27 < dreadhead> blindx: i'll give it a go.... if not i'll look for some linux software and try on my other machine... 14:27 < blindx> Alright, sorry I wasn't more help. 14:28 < dreadhead> blindx: no worries, thanks for trying... :) 14:30 < dreadhead> blindx: i think actually i don't have the license... i just assumed that since i could play it i must have it...? 14:31 < dreadhead> blindx: you don't know if there are any license hack apps out there do you? 14:31 < blindx> oh there is. 14:31 < blindx> oh yeah, if you can play it, you have the license. 14:32 < blindx> or it isn't licensed to begin with 14:32 < blindx> llemme go grab it off my other comp right now before i forget 14:32 < dreadhead> blindx: but imtoo says it is protected and that i don't have the license.... 14:32 < blindx> hmph 14:32 < blindx> lemme grab that other progge 14:33 < blindx> k im here 14:34 < blindx> want me to dcc it over, or upload it to my server and link you? 14:35 < dreadhead> blindx: upload/link please... if that's ok? 14:35 < blindx> yeh no problem 14:35 -!- qdot [n=kwant@NETTEON.MIT.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 14:36 < blindx> http://blindx.net/msdigitalrights.zip 14:37 < dreadhead> blindx: done... thanks :) 14:37 < blindx> no problem 14:42 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:42 < dreadhead> blindx: argg says that my files are version 1 protected not version 2.... 14:42 < blindx> lmfao 14:43 < blindx> sorry ;x 14:43 * dreadhead grumbles as he continues searching 14:44 < blindx> so, it plays fine for you? 14:44 < blindx> without having the license.. 14:47 < dreadhead> blindx: yeah seems to, i think I had to download a license the first time i played it (from MS) but that's probably why it won't let me convert or transfer... apparently there is an old app (unfuck.exe) that does drm v1 but i can't find anywhere to download it... 14:48 < blindx> hm. 14:48 < dreadhead> anyone have unfuck.exe? 14:55 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C74A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:56 < blindx> lol. 15:00 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:02 < dreadhead> whoops.. 15:03 < Smeven> howdy 15:04 < Smeven> i got my env built finally 15:06 < Smeven> i got an env that automagically build uclibc, busybox, mpd from cvs, and setting up podzilla from cvs right now 15:06 < Smeven> buils* 15:06 < Smeven> builds* 15:09 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 15:18 < dreadhead> blindx: where did you get that serial from btw? astalavista? 15:19 < blindx> serials: www.serials.ws cracks: www.cracks.am 15:21 < Smeven> hola 15:21 < Smeven> here is a question 15:21 < Smeven> if mpd is enabled in podzilla, are all the other audio dec libs required? 15:25 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:35 < dreadhead> blindx: found a program called tunebite, digital dubbing prog' that just plays the file through media player (doesn't seem to be in real time though) and records the output to an unprotected file... means it's not even doing anything illegal.. :) 15:35 < blindx> found unfuck 15:35 < blindx> o.- 15:35 < blindx> just found it 15:36 < blindx> lol. 15:36 < dreadhead> blindx: lol, could you upload that too? 15:36 < blindx> absolutely. 15:36 < blindx> actually. 15:36 < blindx> i'll just link you from where i downloaded it :P 15:36 < blindx> wasn't hard. 15:36 < dreadhead> blindx: oh yeah, d'oh! :) 15:36 < blindx> googled. first result. 15:36 < blindx> http://crack.lighter.net/~rox/unfuck.exe 15:38 < dreadhead> blind: really? what did you search for... i only got what looked like the creators site which said it had been discontinued due to drm v2... 15:39 < blindx> ?intitle:index.of? unfuck.exe 15:40 < blindx> little google hacking >_> 15:40 * dreadhead boggles 15:40 < dreadhead> blindx: what does that do? 15:41 < blindx> uh. 15:41 < blindx> searches only pages with "index of" in the title. 15:41 < blindx> which are usually file lists 15:41 < dreadhead> blindx: oh cool... 15:42 * dreadhead drops his head in shame of his ignorance 15:42 < blindx> anytime you need to find something specific like that, that's good. 15:42 < blindx> lol. 15:42 < blindx> it's also good for finding mp3's 15:42 < dreadhead> blindx: i bet...! 15:43 < Smeven> if mpd is enabled in podzilla, are all the other audio decoding libraries required....? 15:43 < blindx> I haven't a clue. 15:44 < blindx> www.google.com/search?q=?intitle:index.of?+mp3+artist+name 15:44 < blindx> try it out xD 15:45 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h173n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:45 < Smeven> http://mastris.student.ugm.ac.id/mp3list/MP3TE/ 15:46 < dreadhead> blindx: nice! :) 15:46 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h173n9c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:55 -!- dioz__ [n=diozepar@216-197-160-134.regn.hssx.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:59 -!- dioz__ [n=diozepar@216-197-160-134.regn.hssx.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 15:59 -!- Synapse [i=bagheera@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 16:00 -!- Synapse [i=bagheera@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 -!- phy1snb [n=phy1snb@snoopy.leeds.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:15 < phy1snb> evening all. I don't suppose anyone is any good with borked HFS+ filesystems? 16:16 * blindx shakes head. 16:18 -!- Raim [i=Raim@p5493D016.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:18 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:24 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has quit [] 16:28 -!- hebadiyeah [n=hebadi@dslb-084-058-026-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:29 < hebadiyeah> hey guys can anyone help me please? i cant mount my ipod under suse linux 16:29 < hebadiyeah> i dont know really why.. 16:29 < hebadiyeah> he says :mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab 16:30 < hebadiyeah> hello? 16:30 -!- typester is now known as sleepster 16:30 < hebadiyeah> can anyone please help? 16:35 -!- TrackZilla [n=TrackZil@cpe-24-30-179-245.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:35 -!- hebadiyeah [n=hebadi@dslb-084-058-026-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 16:36 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 16:37 -!- TrackZilla [n=TrackZil@cpe-24-30-179-245.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:37 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:38 < gnub> dmesg? 16:38 < gnub> wheres it say ur ipoohd is? 16:38 < gnub> hebadiyeah, 16:39 < gnub> hello>? 16:41 < gnub> darn router's power cable pop'd out 16:43 < zsr> * Quits: hebadiyeah (n=hebadi@dslb-084-058-026-068.pools.arcor-ip.net) ("Verlassend") 16:44 < gnub> ? 16:45 < zsr> * Quits: hebadiyeah 16:45 < gnub> did he find is ipod? 16:45 < SereR0KR> mh lol did anyone open the iPod Updater in a resource editor?! 16:45 < SereR0KR> there is a red iPod Mini :o 16:46 < Raim> wtf? 16:46 < SereR0KR> yep 16:47 < SereR0KR> mom i show u 16:47 < Raim> which updater do you have? 16:47 < SereR0KR> downloaded before 5minutes 16:48 < Raim> I looked at 2005-06-26 in ResHack, but didn't find any iPod pictures 16:48 < SereR0KR> http://web56.server14.rhs-it.de/Homepages/sereroku/ipod-hp/ipod_gens/2g_mini_red.bmp 16:49 < Raim> nice :D 16:49 < SereR0KR> yes! 16:49 < SereR0KR> Madonna?! O.o 16:49 < SereR0KR> i dont think so 16:50 < gnub> reshack is a pretty nifty little prog 16:50 < SereR0KR> :D 16:50 < gnub> amazing how it decompiles\compiles windows junk 16:50 < SereR0KR> lol 16:50 < Raim> hehe 16:51 < gnub> you kno about the solitare easteregg u can uncover with it 16:51 < Raim> the beginning of the firmware block: http://nopaste.php-q.net/164747 16:51 < Raim> :D 16:51 -!- re4p3r [n=re4p3r@81-86-161-158.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:51 < gnub> i used it just to change my start button pic 16:51 -!- iplbot [i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:52 < re4p3r> hey, is there a way to turn the ipod into a USB host? 16:53 < gnub> people kept telling me that its a usb clientside no way in hell it'll go the otherway 16:53 < gnub> unless a real fancy reverse i/o hack 16:53 < gnub> my guess 16:54 < gnub> <-- wishes ipods dmesg was a little more verbose 16:55 < re4p3r> so the answer is no? 16:55 < gnub> my answer is i dont kno 16:56 < re4p3r> ah 17:06 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:13 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:13 < aegray> anyone recommend a company for laptops? 17:15 < blindx> alienware 17:15 < blindx> :P 17:19 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #iPodLinux 17:38 -!- phy1snb [n=phy1snb@snoopy.leeds.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:38 < Smeven> anyone around? 17:38 < hyarion> yep 17:39 < Smeven> anyone that has a good grasp on mpd + podzilla? 17:42 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 17:43 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 < Smeven> courtc: you around? 18:03 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 < kantlivelong> hey all 18:06 < Smeven> yo 18:06 < Smeven> kantlivelong: maybe you can help me out... 18:06 < kantlivelong> gonna try making the clock work 18:06 < kantlivelong> k.. shoot 18:07 < Smeven> try privmsg again? 18:07 < kantlivelong> just ask here 18:07 < Smeven> ok 18:07 < Smeven> how did you build mpd and podzilla for me? 18:08 < kantlivelong> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla 18:08 < Smeven> kantlivelong: even when you use mpd do you have to install the other decoding libs? 18:09 < kantlivelong> that doc tells all u need 18:09 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 18:11 < Smeven> ,,,, 18:12 < blindx> I'm kinda disappointed I can't get linux to work on my iPod 18:13 < Smeven> i guess i am just kind of confused about how mpd plays into this 18:15 < kantlivelong> what do you mean. "plays into this"? 18:15 < blindx> he means 18:15 < blindx> whats its purpose 18:15 < kantlivelong> to play music w/o itunes? 18:15 < Smeven> lol 18:15 < Smeven> i got that 18:16 < Smeven> is podzilla built completely seperate from mpd 18:16 < kantlivelong> no? 18:16 < Smeven> ok 18:16 < kantlivelong> mpd client is built in 18:16 < Smeven> by default? 18:16 < Smeven> or is it enabled by a flag 18:16 < kantlivelong> flagged 18:17 < Smeven> ok 18:17 < Smeven> next 18:18 < Smeven> if i enable mpd, what is the use of me having aacdec and mp4ff when mpd handles the audio...? 18:19 < kantlivelong> dont know that much bout it :P 18:19 * blindx shoots Smeven 18:19 < Smeven> what? 18:19 < blindx> What what? 18:19 < Smeven> nm 18:19 < Raim> Smeven: AFAIK you can play music in the background 18:20 < Smeven> i have pretty everything setup 18:20 < blindx> what's afaik stand for? i've been trying to figure it out for days. 18:20 < Smeven> ....? 18:20 < Smeven> as far as I know 18:20 < blindx> dammit 18:20 < Raim> blindx: As Far As I Know 18:20 < blindx> that's so simple! 18:20 < Raim> :) 18:20 < Smeven> Raim: ..... 18:20 * blindx hangs heads. 18:20 < blindx> head* 18:21 * kantlivelong attempts to fix clock 18:21 < blindx> hahaha i read that wrong 18:21 < Raim> Smeven: it's all in the wiki, http://ipodlinux.org/MPD 18:21 < Smeven> Raim: what does playing in the background have to do with what we are talking about 18:21 < Smeven> (im confused) 18:22 < Raim> Smeven: you asked for the benefits of MPD... 18:22 < Smeven> no i didnt 18:22 < Smeven> i asked why need aacdev and mp4ff if mpd handles the audio 18:22 < Raim> ah, sorry, I misunderstood that 18:22 < Smeven> its good 18:25 < Smeven> i kind of wish there was a dev around 18:25 < Smeven> then i could annoy him 18:25 < kantlivelong> why does it really matter? 18:25 < Smeven> why not? 18:26 < Smeven> i am testing out stuff on the ipod 18:26 < kantlivelong> ok? 18:27 < Smeven> I will tell you what I am doing and already have done.... 18:27 < kantlivelong> k.. 18:28 < Smeven> I am setting up an env to automically build the rootfs for the ipod, it will download the newest crap from cvs, build the base apps, podzilla, mpd, apply any need patches, build a uclinux kernel (2.6.x), then make an image out of it. 18:28 < Smeven> so far I have a toolchain setup, uclibc, busybox, and a couple other things built. 18:29 < kantlivelong> uhh 18:29 < kantlivelong> 2.6 is unstable 18:29 < Smeven> yes, i realize this 18:29 < kantlivelong> and ive already made a script to automatically build podzilla w/ mpd 18:29 < kantlivelong> from cvs 18:30 < Smeven> gravy 18:30 < Smeven> do you grab mpd from cvs also? 18:30 < kantlivelong> why would u want to? 18:31 < Smeven> um.... 18:31 < kantlivelong> i dont even think its in the cvs 18:31 < Smeven> doesnt look like it, i couldnt find the uclinux mpd anywhere in a repository 18:31 < kantlivelong> prolly cuz they didnt make it 18:31 < Smeven> doesnt appear so 18:32 < kantlivelong> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/MPD 18:32 < Smeven> yeah, i read through all that 18:33 < kantlivelong> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonUclinuxBranch 18:33 < Smeven> yeah, that too 18:33 < kantlivelong> so theres no need to build it 18:34 < Smeven> it is already prebuilt? 18:34 < kantlivelong> yes... 18:34 < Smeven> dang 18:34 < Smeven> is there just a patch available? 18:34 < kantlivelong> no? 18:34 < kantlivelong> if u read the first link 18:34 < kantlivelong> u would see the binary for mpd 18:35 < Smeven> ok 18:35 < Smeven> that isnt a binary 18:35 < kantlivelong> its not? 18:36 < Smeven> thats source 18:36 -!- davidc__ [n=davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 18:36 < kantlivelong> ... 18:36 < kantlivelong> what are u looking for 18:36 < kantlivelong> mpd 18:36 < kantlivelong> or podzilla w/ mpdc 18:37 < Smeven> i got podzilla taken care of.....i will grab it out of svn and built it with mpd support 18:37 < kantlivelong> mpdc* 18:37 < kantlivelong> podzilla uses mpdc 18:37 < kantlivelong> mpd is its own prebuilt binary 18:38 < Smeven> now i got mpd figured out, i will grab the newest tar.gz from that mirror, and then build a bin 18:38 < Smeven> you know what i mean 18:38 < kantlivelong> building mpd? 18:38 < Smeven> yes! 18:38 < kantlivelong> ... 18:38 < kantlivelong> why would u.. 18:38 < Smeven> why not? 18:38 < kantlivelong> you plan on manually adding more formats? 18:39 < Smeven> all the formats i need are in there, so no 18:39 < kantlivelong> if u build mpd from source.. its just FLAC 18:39 < Smeven> doesnt appear so.... 18:40 < kantlivelong> url? 18:40 < Smeven> i just http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonUclinuxBranch 18:40 < kantlivelong> "Currently, FLAC is the only audio format tested under uCLinux," 18:40 < Smeven> i just ran configure on the tar.gz file that was listed on the page 18:40 < Smeven> and it says ogg enabled, flac enabled, wave enabled, mod enabled, etc 18:41 < kantlivelong> well then try it 18:41 < Smeven> this is deceiving then 18:41 < Smeven> maybe not 18:41 < Smeven> but anyhow 18:42 < Smeven> if i have mpd on my ipod 18:42 < Smeven> and you say it only supports flac.... 18:42 < Smeven> how am i listening to oggs? 18:42 < kantlivelong> the one built by ipl has others enabled.. 18:42 < kantlivelong> or added 18:42 < kantlivelong> but hey 18:42 < kantlivelong> go build it 18:43 < kantlivelong> if it works, great. 18:43 < kantlivelong> if not 18:43 < kantlivelong> o well 18:43 < Smeven> the reason i am here is to find out info :) 18:45 -!- Jobbe [n=mattias@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:47 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has joined #ipodlinux 18:49 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-197-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 < kantlivelong> well did it work? 18:51 < Smeven> i am looking through the source right now 18:51 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:54 < Smeven> i dont feel it is necessary to build 18:54 < Smeven> as you said it doesnt include everything the ipl does... 18:54 < Smeven> but at that, where is the source for the one ipl distributes? 18:55 < Smeven> or is that it? 18:55 < kantlivelong> dont think they made it avail 18:55 < Smeven> what about GPL? 18:55 < kantlivelong> no idea 18:55 < kantlivelong> maybe they didnt modify source 18:55 < kantlivelong> gotta ask the person who compiled it 18:56 < Smeven> i think he compiled it from the source on that page 18:57 < kantlivelong> should ask 18:57 < Smeven> yeah 18:58 < kantlivelong> March 11, 2005, 2:45 pm was latest release 18:58 < kantlivelong> from mpd website 18:58 < kantlivelong> so im assuming no real improvements 18:59 < Smeven> there has been updates in svn though 18:59 < kantlivelong> idk where 2 even get libid3tag 19:00 < kantlivelong> so meh 19:00 < kantlivelong> never used svn either 19:00 < kantlivelong> only cvs 19:00 -!- gnub [i=1000@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has quit ["quit"] 19:00 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-017-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 < Smeven> libid3tag is mad.sf.net... 19:01 < Smeven> svn is easy 19:01 < Smeven> pretty nice too 19:03 < Smeven> aanyhow 19:03 < Smeven> i have read enough 19:04 < Smeven> and i got the build env setup and a bunch of stuff built 19:04 < Smeven> i will finish tomorrow 19:04 < Smeven> i have work in a couple hours 19:04 < Smeven> later 19:04 < kantlivelong> l89r 19:04 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:06 -!- gnub [i=1000@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-197-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 19:16 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 < kantlivelong> gah 19:17 < kantlivelong> theres no fsck for ipl is there? 19:19 < slowcoder> Sure there is.. WinPOD or MacPOD ? 19:20 < kantlivelong> win 19:20 < kantlivelong> but i wanna fsck the linux partitions 19:20 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < kantlivelong> i see busybox has fsck.minix 19:20 < kantlivelong> whats the diff 19:21 < slowcoder> A lot 19:21 < kantlivelong> good or bad diff? 19:21 < slowcoder> Hmm.. Compiling fsck.ext2 in windows might be a tad difficult 19:21 < slowcoder> The kind of difference that makes it not work at all 19:22 -!- Culcha`Candela [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 < kantlivelong> lame 19:22 < kantlivelong> i can always compile in gentoo :D 19:22 < slowcoder> Ah, if you have gentoo, theres no problem 19:23 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 < slowcoder> Just use fsck.ext2 in there 19:23 < kantlivelong> yeah, i know i can do it from there 19:23 < kantlivelong> my question is 19:23 < kantlivelong> can i get the binary for ipl 19:23 < slowcoder> Ahhhh 19:23 < slowcoder> Cross-compile fsck.ext2 then.. :) 19:24 < slowcoder> It'll require libext2 19:24 < kantlivelong> thought so 19:25 < kantlivelong> cant wait to see how much time it takes for a fsck 19:25 < kantlivelong> 90mhz of power 19:25 < kantlivelong> woo 19:25 < slowcoder> 90? Have you overclocked your ipod ? :) 19:25 < kantlivelong> isnt that wat the latest kernel set it to? 19:26 < masquerade> kantlivelong, the procs are clocked at 75MHz iirc 19:26 < kantlivelong> ah 19:26 < slowcoder> Thought it was 75, but I'm not 100% on that 19:26 < kantlivelong> guess it is then 19:26 < kantlivelong> well, go 75mhz of fsck speed 19:26 < kantlivelong> WOO 19:26 < kantlivelong> lol 19:26 < masquerade> I'd fsck it from my local machine :-P 19:26 < kantlivelong> better off doing it in gentoo LOL 19:27 < kantlivelong> ight shall do 19:27 < kantlivelong> afk bootin laptop up for this 1 19:35 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Success] 19:37 -!- beefdude [n=beefdude@83.245.51.94] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:38 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:38 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 -!- Culcha`Candela is now known as SereR0KR 19:48 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 19:48 -!- richbull3t [i=mrpotato@usr233-dy1.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:49 -!- blindx is now known as blindx|afk 19:53 -!- EspadaV8 [n=beefdude@83.245.51.94] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 -!- Raim [i=Raim@p5493D016.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:00 -!- richbull3t [i=mrpotato@usr233-dy1.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:01 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool242-73.nas3.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:05 < hyarion> no 20:05 < hyarion> ops 20:05 < hyarion> :) 20:09 < slowcoder> hi hy 20:09 -!- Jobbe [n=mattias@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit [] 20:09 < hyarion> g'day 20:14 < jmstacey> Would there be any efficiency increase if both the kernel and podzilla were specifically compiled for the particular ipod there were going to be run on? (instead of, for example, determining screen size during run time) 20:14 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool243-20.nas5.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 < hyarion> jmstacey: no, not really 20:17 < jmstacey> Is there a todo list of what's left to be done for the kernel? (most likely on a per model basis) 20:17 < jmstacey> and ignoring the newer ipod lcd todo 20:18 -!- beefdude is now known as EspadaV8 20:21 < slowcoder> What do you mean "ignoring" ? 20:21 < jmstacey> also, does anyone know the speed of the processor on the nano, what model it is/etc. 20:21 < jmstacey> slowcoder: since I don't have the newer version 20:21 < slowcoder> Ah 20:22 < slowcoder> Audio pause bug, 4G Recording, mini recording 20:23 < jmstacey> pause bug? In mpd or the default? 20:23 < jmstacey> err mpdc 20:23 < slowcoder> kernel bug 20:23 < slowcoder> leachbj can give you more info on the problem 20:23 < jmstacey> ah 20:24 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 20:25 < jmstacey> slowcoder: for the 2.4 branch I assume? 20:25 < slowcoder> I'm _guessing_ the problem is that it screws up when you're write()ing less data to /dev/dsp than the samplingrate 20:25 < slowcoder> Yep 20:27 < leachbj> jmstacey: http://ipodlinux.org/requests/ 20:34 < jmstacey> leachbj: On that page the 4th gen is listed as having a basic battery meter and deep sleep functions. How do you access the deep sleep from podzilla? 20:37 < leachbj> i think you can find something on the wiki 20:37 < jmstacey> yeah, *currently reading 20:38 < jmstacey> oh, leachbj, did you get the diff off my server for mpdc? that shouldn't have had messed up line endings 20:39 < leachbj> haven't yet but i saw the email. does the one on the server include the changes to that file from both patches? 20:41 < jmstacey> Only the changes from the 2nd patch. Turns out the menu.c file didn't need to be modified for the first patch. (cvs still won't diff it, grrrr.) 20:44 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:46 < leachbj> ok so the first patch is just mlist.c and the second patch is just mpdc/menu.c? 20:46 < jmstacey> correct 20:50 -!- nickweb [i=Nick@host86-135-229-82.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- nickweb [i=Nick@host86-135-229-82.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:56 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-26-182-222.indy.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:56 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-26-182-222.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 -!- beefdude_ [n=beefdude@83.245.51.94] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 -!- EspadaV8 [n=beefdude@83.245.51.94] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:13 -!- Jobbe [n=mattias@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:16 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 21:40 < AngryParsley> so... why isn't the 4G ipod supported yet? ipodlinux for the 4G looks like it has more features than ipodlinux for the 3G 21:40 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:40 < AngryParsley> is some key part still unstable? 21:41 < slowcoder> Audio out for one 21:41 < AngryParsley> oh 21:41 < slowcoder> USB and firewire doesnt work 21:41 < AngryParsley> yeah, that would do it 21:41 < slowcoder> Audio works most of the time, but has some bug in it 21:41 < AngryParsley> slowcoder: you mean USB host support? 21:42 < AngryParsley> or all USB and firewire communication? 21:42 < slowcoder> AngryParsley: That too, but I was thinking of target mode 21:42 < AngryParsley> oh 21:42 < AngryParsley> all those green check marks in the wiki made me so optimistic 21:43 < slowcoder> Well, it installs alright for most people at least 21:43 < AngryParsley> well since the worst that can happen is I lose all my data on my ipod, I guess I'll give it a try 21:43 < slowcoder> What kind of pod do you have ? 21:43 < AngryParsley> a 4G 21:43 < AngryParsley> gtkpod just deleted all the data on it anyway 21:43 < slowcoder> B&W, Color or newer color ? 21:43 < AngryParsley> B&W 21:43 < slowcoder> Should work fine for you then, except the above noted things 21:44 < AngryParsley> cool 21:44 < AngryParsley> oh, I have the latest apple firmware 21:44 < slowcoder> No problem 21:44 < AngryParsley> I heard that some people have trouble installing ipodlinux with the latest firmware? 21:44 < AngryParsley> neato 21:44 < slowcoder> Just dont put podcasts on it, since it confuses libitunes 21:44 < AngryParsley> heh 21:45 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=scooter@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-22-70.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:01 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 -!- crashd [i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has quit ["leaving"] 22:04 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:05 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:07 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:08 -!- Jobbe [n=mattias@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit [] 22:11 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:11 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 -!- jasonm [n=Administ@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 -!- jasonm [n=Administ@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:19 -!- jasonm [n=Administ@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 < jasonm> anyone in here? 22:21 < slowcoder> yep 22:21 < jasonm> i just got some questions about this project 22:21 < jasonm> but first off 22:21 < jasonm> why do you us it over the firmware? 22:22 < slowcoder> Why do we do what ? 22:22 < aegray_> why do you us it 22:22 < jasonm> why are you using podzilla over the firmware 22:22 < aegray_> us it 22:23 < slowcoder> Because we can.. :) 22:23 < jasonm> good answer 22:23 < jasonm> ok 22:23 < slowcoder> Right now, I agree, the original interface is much better for playing music 22:23 < jasonm> its really choppy 22:23 < AngryParsley> because the 11th commandment is "Thou shalt use podzilla on the firmware." 22:23 < jasonm> songs skip a lot 22:23 < AngryParsley> jasonm: what kind of ipod do you have? 22:23 < leachbj> slowcoder, unless you want to listen to xenonII .mod ;) 22:23 < jasonm> 3rd gen 22:24 < aegray_> leachbj: who does that kind of thing? only crazy people 22:24 < AngryParsley> yeah, most mp3s won't play in real time 22:24 < aegray_> thats who 22:24 < slowcoder> leachbj: Very true.. Although I prefer the ones by Skaven.. More specifically the one from 2nd reality 22:24 < jasonm> so how do you listen to them? 22:25 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 22:25 < aegray_> with headphones in my family room 22:25 * aegray_ runs 22:26 < jasonm> in non real time? 22:26 < aegray_> works in real time 22:26 * slowcoder is off for breakfast 22:26 < jasonm> how do you make it not choppy 22:26 < slowcoder> I compile mine with -DNON_CHOPPY_PLAYBACK :) 22:27 < jasonm> good one 22:27 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 < leachbj> jasonm, using a recent build of the kernel and podzilla you should get reasonable mp3 playback and good aac 22:28 < slowcoder> I seriously have no clue why other people do it besides the devs.. I use mine for testing embedded devices 22:29 < aegray_> because...its fun to watch a shitty syncless 5 gb 10 minute movie on a tiny black and white screen one time! 22:31 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has joined #ipodlinux 22:32 < jasonm> heh 22:32 < jasonm> i'll probably start using it when it doesnt suck. 22:32 < aegray_> hmm 22:33 < aegray_> i'll hurt you 22:33 < jasonm> hahaha 22:33 < jasonm> well it seems as though theres a long way to go. 22:34 < jmstacey> it'd go faster if you helped... (or maybe not) 22:35 < Jambo616> you doubting bastard 22:35 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [] 22:40 * veteran sighs 22:53 -!- protias [i=1000@dyn96.pir3.nas.panafonet.gr] has joined #ipodlinux 22:54 < jmstacey> Has anybody tried bommerang for decompiling the apple fw? (something better?) 22:54 -!- protias is now known as help 22:54 -!- help is now known as proteas 22:54 < aegray_> bommerang? 22:54 < jmstacey> boomerang 22:54 < jmstacey> type 22:54 -!- proteas is now known as protias 22:54 < jmstacey> grr! typo 22:55 < aegray_> what is boomerang? 22:55 < AngryParsley> hmm, I can't follow the ipodlinux install guide exactly 22:55 < AngryParsley> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 22:55 < AngryParsley> /dev/sda1 * 1 5 40131 0 Empty 22:55 < AngryParsley> /dev/sda2 * 6 2431 19486845 b W95 FAT32 22:55 < jmstacey> http://sourceforge.net/projects/boomerang I thought about trying it, but I don't have a dump.... 22:55 < AngryParsley> the first partition is supposed to be bigger 22:56 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:56 < AngryParsley> and I don't want to wipe everything on my fat32 partition, because it will take a long time to copy back 22:57 < aegray_> change it for sda1 - 1-3 sda3 4-5 22:57 < AngryParsley> will that leave enough room for the apple firmware? 22:57 -!- dreadhead [n=noone@cpc4-cwma2-5-0-cust90.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 < aegray_> jmstacey: does it support arm? 22:58 < jmstacey> aegray: Would you decompile with the arm cross compiler then feed boomerang the asm code? 22:58 < AngryParsley> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 22:58 < AngryParsley> /dev/sda1 1 3 24066 0 Empty 22:58 < AngryParsley> /dev/sda2 * 6 2431 19486845 b W95 FAT32 22:58 < AngryParsley> /dev/sda3 4 5 16065 0 Empty 22:58 < AngryParsley> ok 22:59 < aegray_> stop 22:59 < AngryParsley> what? 22:59 < aegray_> pasting 22:59 < AngryParsley> sorry, I wanted to make sure I did it right 22:59 < AngryParsley> since both of those partitions are really small 23:00 < aegray_> yea that works 23:00 < AngryParsley> ok 23:00 < AngryParsley> I changed the 3rd partition to type linux also 23:00 < AngryParsley> and activated the first 23:01 < jmstacey> aegray: Do you have a 4th gen dump by any chance? 23:01 < aegray_> nope 23:01 < jmstacey> know anybody who does (or where) 23:04 < AngryParsley> what do you mean by 4th gen dump? 23:04 < AngryParsley> I just backed up the firmware partition on my 4G ipod 23:05 < jmstacey> The 1.1 apple firmware .bin that's for the click-wheel color ipods 23:05 < AngryParsley> oh, I have a B&W ipod 23:06 < AngryParsley> gah, fdisk zombied 23:06 < AngryParsley> I have to restart 23:06 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:12 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-017-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:13 -!- AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:15 < AngryParsley> so since I have a 4G ipod, I want to use uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.tar.gz, right? 23:15 < AngryParsley> or is there a newer copy that I'm not seeing? 23:15 < AngryParsley> oh, 2004, yeah there probably is 23:19 < AngryParsley> I guess I'll use the latest nightly 23:33 < AngryParsley> so... where do I find the kernel modules for uclinux 2.4.24? 23:33 < AngryParsley> because I'm not seeing them in http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ 23:34 < AngryParsley> or anywhere else on the ipodlinux site 23:38 -!- sleepster is now known as typester 23:39 < AngryParsley> hello? 23:39 -!- SereR0KR [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcf7a.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:42 < AngryParsley> so... 71 people are idling? 23:43 < masquerade> yeah, that's the general gist of it 23:44 < masquerade> this is IRC 23:44 < masquerade> not AOL 23:44 < masquerade> big difference 23:44 < AngryParsley> so... do you know where I can find the kernel modules that go with the nightly build? 23:44 < masquerade> why would you need them? iirc everything necessary is compiled in, and modules are unnnecessary 23:44 < AngryParsley> oh 23:45 < AngryParsley> well the install instructions said to copy the kernel modules to /lib on the ipod's linux partition 23:45 < AngryParsley> I guess they're outdated 23:45 < AngryParsley> from http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux#Kernel_Installation 23:45 < AngryParsley> Copy the kernel modules onto the iPod (note the directory /mnt/ipod must exist and should not be in use). The lib directory below refers to the directory from the kernel release and contains the modules directory. 23:45 < AngryParsley> I'll just skip that then 23:47 < AngryParsley> also, are there any newer versions of the ipod filesystem? the latest one on sourceforge is from april of 2004 23:47 < AngryParsley> I mean the ipod userland 23:53 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-163-163.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Tue Oct 11 00:00:00 2005