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00:17 < masquerade> *sigh*
00:17 < masquerade> stupid sash and its lack of redirection
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00:24 < masquerade> and stupid bash and its failure to compile
00:25 < masquerade> If anyone already has a compiled bash binary for the ipod, I'd be forever grateful if they would send it this way
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00:30 < courtc> mooo
00:30 < aegray> oooooom
00:31 < courtc> oooomoooo
00:31  * aegray loses
00:31 < Nappers> buk buk buk :)
00:31 < masquerade> mooooomooooom
00:31 < qdot> ding-dong
00:31 < courtc> howdy y'all
00:31 < Nappers> gidday :)
00:31 < Nappers> paddled anything lately?
00:32 < courtc> um.. the gauley
00:32 < Nappers> oh right... 
00:32 < courtc> :)
00:32 < Nappers> how was it?
00:32 < courtc> Pretty badass, lost my boat for about 15 minutes :/
00:32  * courtc needs a new skirt
00:33 < Nappers> haha, how'd you manage that?
00:33 < courtc> got in a munchy hole, blew my skirt. no floatbags.
00:33 < courtc> (the hole blew my skirt)
00:34 < Nappers> yeah, I've seen that happen before, what type of boat do you have?
00:34 < courtc> wavesport EZ
00:34 < Nappers> I've just put an overthruster on my RAD 175 to prevent that from happening
00:35 < courtc> I had a creeking skirt on, so the cockpit was pretty loose.
00:35 < Nappers> well, that's just asking for it then ;)
00:36 < courtc> yea, like I said, I need a new skirt
00:36 < Zol> ?
00:36 < Zol> what gender are you courtc? o.o
00:36 < courtc> heh
00:37 < Zol> and what nationality =p
00:37 < Zol> if you answered male above =p
00:38 < courtc> male, and I live in the U.S. :)
00:40 < courtc> (uhoh, he's a crossdresser
00:41 < courtc> `google sprayskirt
00:41 < iplbot> Sprayskirt on NRS - kayaking gear rafting supplies and boating ... (http://nrsweb.resultspage.com/boating/Sprayskirt): NRS Rubber Rand Kilt Sprayskirt - Item #2016. The Rubber Rand sprayskirt is bu...
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00:48 < Nappers> hey courtc, I thought you were female?? I'm sure you posted a link to a pic on your website about a month ago... :P
00:49 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/me.jpg
00:49 < courtc> !me
00:50 < Nappers> yeah, that's the one :)
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00:51 < courtc> yea, I'm pretty confused about my gender apparently.
00:53 < Nappers> hehe fair enough :P
00:53 < courtc> I am male, but my name seems to cause gender-chaos on irc.
00:54 < courtc> And talking about wearing skirts doesn't help ;)
00:54 < Nappers> hehe, unless you're familiar with paddling :)
00:55 < Nappers> I tend to think about a sprayskirt then a girls skirt when I hear someone mention "skirt" :)
00:55 < Nappers> and then a girl of course :P
00:55 < Nappers> hehe
00:55 < Nappers> so who is the pic of then?
00:55 < courtc> girls in sprayskirts == hot
00:56 < courtc> some random chick on hotornot
00:56 < Nappers> hmm, I've met a few who aren't :(
00:56 < courtc> Nappers: yea, but that's not the skirts fault ;)
00:57 < Nappers> LOL :)
00:57 < Nappers> nice call
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00:58 < Nappers> anywho, I'm supposed to be working... we should let the forum go back to talking about iPL :)
00:58 < courtc> I should be working as well :/
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02:24 < Blahz0rz> X_X sucks when you run out of room on your *nix parition heh
02:25 < Blahz0rz> ..espically when ur trying to compile a new kernel =/
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03:06 < aegray> josh_: ping
03:06 < aegray> erm - anyone
03:07 < aegray> in a desktop pc - theres no cooling mechanism on the harddrives right?
03:08 < masquerade> aegray, nothing major
03:08 < aegray> compared to the ipod
03:08 < masquerade> most have some heat absorbant pads
03:08 < aegray> ah
03:08 < aegray> does the ipod have any of this?
03:09 < masquerade> not sure there's the room for it
03:09 < aegray> eep
03:09 < masquerade> although, it may
03:09 < masquerade> aegray, you don't happen to have a bash binary for the ipod do you?
03:09 < aegray> nope
03:09 < aegray> josh_ might
03:09 < aegray> or courtc
03:09 < aegray> or some other person
03:09 < aegray> it uses vfork i thought
03:10 < masquerade> not sure, the wiki looks like someone has got it to compile at least
03:10 < josh_> josh_: here
03:10 < josh_> ere
03:10 < josh_> er
03:10 < josh_> aegray: josh_ here
03:10 < masquerade> josh_, do you happen to have a bash binary for the ipod?
03:10 < aegray> it was that question about the harddrive
03:10 < josh_> aegray: bash doesn't work for the iPod, it uses too many forks()
03:10 < aegray> do you know the answer?
03:10 < josh_> you can use minix-sh though
03:10 < aegray> thats what i was thinking
03:11 < masquerade> josh_, does minix-sh support a pipe? (echo 'blah' | bleh)
03:11 < josh_> aegray: most systems don't have HD-specific cooling, though high-end cases usually have fan slots there
03:11 < josh_> masquerade: yes
03:11 < aegray> k
03:11 < josh_> http://www.so2.sys-techs.net/ipod/
03:11 < masquerade> I'm tired of messing with popen and dup2 for this nonsense
03:11 < josh_> the minix_sh file there
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03:11 < josh_> er, I guess not that URL...
03:11 < masquerade> josh_, I would love you, if that address worked
03:11 < josh_> masquerade: what nonsense?
03:12 < josh_> ah, it's .com
03:12 < josh_> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/minix_sh
03:12 < masquerade> josh_, I'm still a bit of a noob with C, and having to duplicate to write to stdin and pull from stdout was getting to be a real pain
03:12 < dangerdu> I installed ipod linux on my color ipod can anyone help me boot it I try to press rewind and it gives me a black screen any help?
03:12 < josh_> download it, copy to ipod /bin/sh, chmod +x, keep sash as /bin/sash - you might need it if you need interactive command entry.
03:13 < josh_> dangerdu: hold down menu + center, when you see the Apple hold center + play
03:13 < dangerdu> thx
03:13 < josh_> masquerade: what are you writing?
03:13 < masquerade> josh_, using bc for a simple calculator
03:14 < josh_> ah, cool
03:14 < masquerade> just one that does a little bit more than the standard one, order of operations, parenthesis, exponents, etc.
03:14 < josh_> cool
03:15 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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03:16 < dangerdu> josh_: that took me to this thing called disk mode
03:16 < josh_> yep
03:16 < josh_> connect it to your computer
03:17 < josh_> open iPod's /iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo (it's a hidden file)
03:17 < josh_> tell me what the line that starts with boardHwSwInterfaceRev: is
03:17 < aegray> yay video ipod (hopefully)(
03:18 < josh_> aegray: where do you see that?
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03:18 < aegray> http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1304          http://www.ipodwizard.net/cmps_index.php
03:18 < aegray> those two
03:19 < dangerdu> ok josh_ its in disk mode and its connected to my computer
03:20 < josh_> dangerdu: did you look in that file?
03:21 < dangerdu> i see no Ipod control
03:22 < josh_> as I said, it's a hidden file and in a hidden folder.
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03:23 < josh_> what OS are you on?
03:23 < dangerdu> win
03:23 < dangerdu> winxp
03:23 < josh_> okay
03:23 < josh_> what's your iPod's drive letter?
03:23 < aegray> `google windows enable hidden folders view folder options
03:23 < iplbot> How to see hidden files in Windows (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/tutorial62.html): How to see hidden files in Windows. by Bleeping Computer on 21st of Apr 2004 (Views:
03:23 < aegray> yay lag
03:24 < dangerdu> E:
03:24 < josh_> okay
03:24 < josh_> open Start > Run
03:24 < josh_> type in
03:24 < josh_> notepad E:\iPod_Control\Device\SysInfo
03:24 < josh_> and hit OK/Run/whateveritis.
03:25 < courtc> "Start the F'er"
03:25 < Luke> haha
03:25 < josh_> haha
03:25 < Luke> whtasup court
03:25 < courtc> hey Luke, not much, you?
03:25 < Luke> ah not much
03:25 < dangerdu> says that the location is unavailable
03:25 < Luke> the site keeps breaking down =(
03:26 < josh_> dangerdu: just do the hidden-file show that aegray pointed out
03:26 < jedix> is the mpd thing working better now?
03:26 < josh_> Luke: ah, how so?
03:26 < Luke> i donno
03:26 < Luke> mac told me a bout some weird stuff
03:26 < courtc> :/ I think we have a milicious admin ;)
03:26 < josh_> e.g.~what symptoms?
03:26 < Luke> someone was changing permissions
03:26 < Luke> and i can tell you it wasn tme
03:26 < courtc> malicious*
03:26 < josh_> *e.g. <space>
03:27 < Luke> secret bad things that I dont want people to now
03:27  * josh_ has been writing too much TeX code today
03:27 < Luke> or else they will just notice and make me fix them
03:27 < Luke> if no one knows about the fuck-ups then I dont have to fix them for... a while
03:27 < dangerdu> josh_ it wont even give it a drive letter
03:27 < josh_> haha, good point
03:27 < josh_> dangerdu: try running the Apple updater then, hit restory
03:27 < josh_> *restore
03:27 < courtc> Luke: good business ethics.
03:27 < dangerdu> ok
03:27 < courtc> ;)
03:28 < jedix> mpd is the right name, right?
03:28 < macpod> who me malicious?
03:28 < courtc> `mpd
03:28 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org  Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). Unofficial tutorial at http://nanosouffle.net/beta/nanoMod?name=podMPD.  [from courtc]
03:28 < aegray> haha nanosouffle not found
03:30 < dangerdu> josh_ ok done now put it back into disk made and seee if it gets a drive letter?
03:30 < courtc> Capso: your shit is borked
03:31 < DansFloyd> any progress with linux on the Nano? :P
03:31 < josh_> dangerdu: you shouldn't have to put it in D.M., just plug it into the wall when it tells you to, then once it's done reflashing, reconnect it to your PC.
03:32 < DansFloyd> im stll dreaming....
03:32 < dangerdu> josh_ ok done thayt
03:32  * josh_ waits for the inevitable "I don't have a wall adapter" reply...
03:32 < josh_> ah cool
03:32 < josh_> is it in the normal iPod interface now?
03:32 < dangerdu> yeah
03:32 < josh_> okay, you can just plug it in to your computer and check the file
03:32 < dangerdu> ok
03:34 < dangerdu> josh_ boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0x00060000
03:34 < aegray> nice
03:34 < dangerdu> now?
03:35 < josh_> dangerdu: hmm, it seems your iPod is in the should-be-working phase
03:35 < josh_> if you want to try installing iPL again, go ahead.
03:35 < dangerdu> i do want to try that
03:36 < dangerdu> but how do i boot it once its installed?
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03:43 < dangerdu> josh_ will that one ever boot yet?
03:43 < dangerdu> even*
03:43 < josh_> hm?
03:44 < dangerdu> hm?
03:44 < josh_> what do you mean?
03:44 < dangerdu> like if i install that development version that you all are working on will it boot up?
03:45 < josh_> maybe
03:45 < josh_> I don't know.
03:45 < dangerdu> well i tryed installing it earlier and i couldnt get it to boot but i dont know if I was doing it right???
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03:46 < Zol> oh no
03:46 < Zol> he sounds like me
03:46 < josh_> Zol: no, he has a 60000 iPod, his should work.
03:46 < Zol> 1 month back
03:46 < Zol> i know
03:46 < Zol> but back then i was all like
03:46 < Zol> how do you install it?
03:47 < Zol> step by step instructions!
03:47 < josh_> haha, yeah
03:47 < Zol> but josh
03:47 < Zol> point him to the naycon guide in the forums
03:47 < Zol> so we dont have to explain =p
03:47 < josh_> you do it, I don't know WTF you're talking about :P
03:47 < masquerade> I'm so close!
03:47 < dangerdu> Zol: point me to that...
03:47 < masquerade> so close
03:47 < Zol> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2733&highlight=naycon
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03:48 < Zol> masquerade: jerking off? :)
03:48 < Zol> jkjk
03:49 < masquerade> Zol, my sexy calculator
03:49 < Zol> yeah, i know
03:49 < Zol> i just couldnt resist that opening
03:49  * masquerade neglected it for the last month or so but is back in action
03:50 < aegray> sexy calculator?
03:50  * aegray horny
03:50 < masquerade> aegray, well, sexier than the default at least
03:50 < aegray> nice curves?
03:51 < masquerade> hmm, I'll do it i you have a replacement for GrRect that draws with rounded corners :-P
03:51 < masquerade> else you'll have to wait until I know what I'm doing
03:51 < courtc> that's super easy to write
03:51 < aegray> not just easy -> super easy
03:51 < aegray> therefore masquerade you are a lazy bastard
03:52  * aegray runs
03:52  * courtc writes it.
03:52 < masquerade> aegray, nah, I'm just learning C as I'm going
03:52 < dangerdu> Zol: none of the nightlys will download
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03:53 < Zol> your internet sucks :p
03:53 < blindx> Mine?
03:53 < josh_> 20:52 < dangerdu> Zol: none of the nightlys will download
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03:53 < courtc> my internet rocks, it has lots of porn
03:53 < josh_> 20:53 < Zol> your internet sucks :p
03:53 < blindx> o.o
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03:53 < blindx> why didn't i see that
03:54 < macpod> My internet beat you your dad
03:54 < josh_> because you logged in in the middle of it?
03:54 < blindx> oh
03:54 < blindx> i read courtc's comment
03:54 < blindx> and thought..
03:54 < blindx> nevermind
03:54 < blindx> I think I know what I did wrong and how to fix it, and get iPL on my pod.
03:56 < blindx> i'll let you all know tomorrow
03:56 < Zol> we dont need to know =p
03:57 < aegray> NO
03:57 < aegray> I HAVE TO KNOW
03:57 < aegray> PLEASE TELL
03:57 < Zol> ?
03:57 < masquerade> xXà§xXৠ *sigh*
03:57 < Gnub> http://www.dnull.com/cpubenchmark/buds-O3.htmlok
03:57 < Zol> another random moment?
03:57  * aegray /ignores zol
03:57 < blindx> zol, I'm gonna tell you anyway :P
03:57 < Zol> ok
03:57 < Zol> aegray, why do we need to know?
03:57 < aegray> BECAUSE WE DO
03:58 < Zol> o.O
03:58 < Zol> you dont say that to everyone who pops in here
03:58 < masquerade> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Vtp2L493.html <-- one of you C people care to give a tip on why that might turn out to be hey:xXà§xXৠ
03:59 < masquerade> (yes, I tried a pointer version, same thing)
03:59 < aegray> which is hex?
03:59 < aegray> give us the full code
03:59 < aegray> please
03:59 < Gnub> rm / -R
03:59 < Gnub> \heh
03:59 < Gnub> what up grey
03:59 < masquerade> http://rafb.net/paste/results/TgBazO23.html
04:00 < aegray> not much
04:00 < aegray> masquerade: what is hex?
04:00 < Gnub> idecimal
04:00 < masquerade> aegray, asking for a definition or what variable is hex? I know the first, not the second
04:01 < aegray> oh
04:01 < aegray> i read your question wrong
04:01 < courtc> masquerade: simple, but looks good: http://pastebin.com/383472
04:02 < aegray> damn
04:02 < aegray> courtc = quick
04:02 < aegray> masquerade: why do you open the pipe 2x?
04:02 < aegray> s/2x/3x/
04:03 < blindx> #| hash pipe rofl
04:03 < masquerade> er, no clue, that's cruftiness
04:03  * masquerade gets rid of that mess
04:05 < masquerade> doesn't help anything though
04:06 < Zol> so is there a text editor in iPL?
04:07 < courtc> http://pastebin.com/383474  <- +fill, yay!
04:07 < aegray> and...
04:07 < aegray> masquerade: wtf is the point of sprintf(mathloc, "hey:%s", a);
04:07 < aegray> a is just a randomly allocated buffer size of 25*sizeof(char)
04:07 < aegray> it doesn't have anything in it
04:07 < aegray> arg
04:07  * aegray wants to kill insight
04:07 < aegray> read my lag
04:07 < aegray> damnit
04:08 < masquerade> aegray, lagging that bad?
04:08 < aegray> my internet cuts out every 10 minutes for like 2 minutes
04:08 < aegray> i hate this stupid isp
04:08 < aegray> masquerade: did you get that part about a?
04:08 < masquerade> aegray, yeah
04:08 < aegray> stop not freeing things
04:08 < aegray> damnit
04:09 < masquerade> yes, sloppy, i know, I just want to get it to work first :/
04:09  * masquerade clears out and starts over
04:09 < masquerade> it needs it
04:09 < aegray> just sprintf(mathloc, "hey:%s", cheese);
04:09 < aegray> that should be diff
04:10 < aegray> no
04:10 < Zol> [9:10:17pm] [aegray PING reply]: 235763hrs 45secs
04:10 < Zol> gj aegray =p
04:11 < aegray> eat that crap
04:12 < Zol> that means what you said now, we would only hear 27 years later =p
04:13  * courtc rewrites masquerade's do_math func
04:15  * masquerade blinks as he tries courtc's round_rect function
04:15  * aegray rewrites courtc
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c:69: error: parse error before "id"
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c: In function `round_rect':
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c:71: error: `id' undeclared (first use in this function)
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c:71: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c:71: error: for each function it appears in.)
04:15 < masquerade> calc.c:71: error: `gc' undeclared (first use in this function)
04:15 < josh_> courtc: shouldn't that fillrect be GrFillRect() on the last line?
04:15 < masquerade> etc. etc. etc.
04:15 < aegray> stop!
04:15  * Vanquisher rewrites aegray 
04:15 < joshk> i think everyone should look at http://cslibrary.stanford.edu/104/
04:15 < masquerade> er, didn't mean to paste that much
04:16  * masquerade sighs, I'm on a roll on screwing up tonight
04:16 < josh_> joshk: haha
04:16 < aegray> maybe...you should...define gc and id?
04:16 < aegray> blinkey rocks!
04:16 < aegray> s/ey/s/
04:17 < joshk> aegray: do you mean binky?
04:17 < aegray>  god damn it i suck
04:17  * aegray takes a time out
04:18 < aegray> what kind of loser goes to college in california
04:18 < aegray> sheesh
04:18  * aegray lashes out to make up for his mistake
04:18  * Vanquisher smacks aegray 
04:18 < Vanquisher> get it together man
04:18 < aegray> no
04:18 < Vanquisher> lol
04:19 < aegray> http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000683061846/
04:20 < courtc> http://pastebin.com/383486  <-- mius typos
04:20 < joshk> aegray: the kind of loser that loses less than people who go to college in friggin' illinois
04:20 < courtc> minus*
04:21 < courtc> josh_: so it should. whoopsy
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04:21 < josh_> hello, mr. clone
04:21  * courtc not testing, just coding out of my ass.
04:21 < aegray_> oh...my....god
04:21 < aegray_> this is ridiculous
04:21 < aegray_> i was going to comeback to that joshk
04:21 < aegray_> but i'm not going to bother anymore
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04:22 < josh_> there you are! :P
04:22 < masquerade> courtc, I love you
04:22 < josh_> (ttk api up to 30 pages now...)
04:22 < courtc> masquerade: umm.. those GR_DRAW s should be GR_DRAW_ID s
04:23 < courtc> (for round_rect)
04:23 < courtc> my bad
04:26 < masquerade> courtc, want to see your round_rect in action?
04:27 < courtc> sure, is it broken?
04:27 < masquerade> not sure, it may be that I'm trying with a size potentially too small to round
04:27 < aegray> well stop it
04:27 < courtc> as long as its larger than 4px
04:27 < masquerade> http://anothersadsong.com/round_rect.png
04:28 < aegray> the buttons?
04:28 < courtc> damn,
04:29 < courtc> change all the 2s in that function to 1s
04:29 < courtc> I'm retarded
04:29 < courtc> (execpt for the GrFillRect
04:30 < masquerade> ahh, much better
04:30 < courtc> I can't even spell
04:31 < courtc> I'd say give em a px margin.
04:31 < masquerade> here we go, I'll take another screenshot, increased padding
04:32 < masquerade> http://anothersadsong.com/round_rect.png
04:32 < courtc> purty
04:32 < masquerade> now, to get it to highlight whichever button its currently on
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04:34 < courtc> I can make a function to do that as well if you'd like
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04:34 < masquerade> lemme try my hand at it with the code I've currently got
04:37 < masquerade> actually, I'll work on it tomorrow, I need to sleep
04:37 < masquerade> thanks aegray, courtc 
04:38 < courtc> yup, np. it distract me from doing the work I really should be doing.
04:42 < Capso> Heh.
04:42 < Capso> I hear shit is malleable these days.
04:47 < blindx> gonna go fuck up my iPod some more!
04:47 < blindx> :)
04:47 < blindx> night
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05:59 < Capso> Heh.
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06:55 < tuna> so i have a borked ipod because i took the md out to play with it, formated it and didnt have a backup image of the hdd...anyway i can get the ipod firmware back on it? all it does is an infinite loop reboot with frowny face
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07:05 < exluddite> I seem to have a drive freeze issue
07:06 < exluddite> when I boot into apple, I get a file/! 
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07:09 < exluddite> the last line I get booting into linux is " ipod_1394: $Id : tsb43aa82.c.v 1.5 2004/05/17 18:22:13 leachbJ Exp $"
07:09 < exluddite> any thoughts?
07:11 < exluddite> I tried the firmware reinstall route, but to no avail
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08:23 < pschulz01> Greetings. I am experiencing  difficulties with using 'dd' with ubuntu.
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08:24 < pschulz01> Has anyone experience the problem where an ipod photo will 'reboot' during a 'dd' to sda1?
08:25 < pschulz01> I am not even able to put the original partition back on.
08:26 < exluddite>  the last line I get booting into linux is " ipod_1394: $Id : tsb43aa82.c.v 1.5 2004/05/17 18:22:13 leachbJ Exp $"
08:26 < exluddite> exluddite any thoughts?
08:26 < pschulz01> I don't think it is the ipod hardware though, as an Apple Reset (from windows) will reset everything without a problem.
08:30 < pschulz01> Bye for now..
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08:34 < exluddite> ya know what...I think the problem is that it gets hot.....and holy shit, that has been a problem since the fucking IIc days!!! You'd thing they'd get a handle on these thiings...
08:37 < exluddite>  the last line I get booting into linux is " ipod_1394: $Id : tsb43aa82.c.v 1.5 2004/05/17 18:22:13 leachbJ Exp $"
08:37 < exluddite> exluddite any thoughts?
08:38 < exluddite> it still hangs at that point when I reboot...weird
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11:12 < ^0tso> I've got an odd problem. My ipod is connected to the PC, I can access the disk, but when I open itunes, I don't see it
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12:09 < hyarion> is there anything wrong with the wiki? I can't use thumbnails on newly uploaded files...
12:25 < courtc> hyarion: yea, apparently there are some permission problems
12:25 < courtc> Luke is looking at it.
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13:55 < pschulz01> Greetings...
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14:43 < psycode> how do i compile floydZilla to run on x ?
14:44 < josh_> psycode: ~[wiki building podzilla desktop]
14:44 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.)
14:44 < josh_> heh
14:44 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop
14:47 < nimmer> psycode: did i send you the auto builds cript yesterday?
14:48 < psycode> nimmer, yes but im not talking about podzilla, floydzilla
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14:50 < nimmer> just change the cvs folder . it will also compile flydzilla
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14:54 < psycode> nimmer, i'll try, thank
14:54 < psycode> thanks*
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14:56 < nimmer> just comment out line 64, 95, 96 i guess. ist the strings for the cvs check. when you drop those, the script just complies the makefile in the podzilla fodler on your hd
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16:13 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Nimmerpod ... useful
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17:46 < petzi> hi there ... anybody who knows about the hdd scan fail messages
17:46 < petzi> ?
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18:00 < julien_c> Do you guys think the slashdot article on the ipod video to be released on October 12th is an hoax or reality ?
18:01 < slowcoder> There have been rumors for a while now
18:01 < slowcoder> The new H-whatnot codec should be playable on the pod if you have some great engineers on it
18:01 < slowcoder> The screen is definitly fast enough
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18:22 < BadBoy> hey
18:22 < BadBoy> damn i wish i had a ipod
18:23 < BadBoy> more than anything else
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18:32 < DansFloyd> hey
18:35 < DansFloyd> anyone know how to make Gradient and Text Input both work... i changed the setting slot for gradient to 51... but the text input still dosnt work
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18:38 < DansFloyd> can anyone help me out?
18:38 < DansFloyd> :P
18:38 < DansFloyd> i could just kill the gradient feature...
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18:43 < DansFloyd> sooo.... anyone know how to get the gradient and text_input to work at the same time... ive allready tried changing the setting slot for both text_input and gradient, but that dosnt seem to work
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19:16 < Flub> hey
19:16 < Flub> !
19:16 < Flub> i have a question
19:17 < Flub> why doesnt work the gb_emulator for my ipod photo?
19:17 < Flub> do you know
19:17 < Flub> why?
19:17 < Flub> it doesnt start
19:18 < Flub> hey? isnt here nobody who could help me?
19:18 < wizisi2k> no I have the same prob 
19:19 < wizisi2k> same EXACT problem
19:19 < Flub> damn
19:20 < Flub> dont know anybody else sth.?
19:20 < wizisi2k> and maybe u can help me out
19:20 < wizisi2k> I am having a problem splitting a converted gom file that is now in avi format
19:21 < Flub> gom file`?
19:21 < wizisi2k> ogm
19:22 < wizisi2k> the video turns green when I split
19:22 < wizisi2k> audio stays
19:22 < Flub> i dont know
19:23 < Flub> i have to go!
19:23 < Flub> my dog
19:23 < wizisi2k> well it happens with however long I split it
19:23 < Flub> shit in my room
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19:25 < wizisi2k> can anyone help me out?
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19:32 < Dima202> Hey guys, any update on the new color ipod?
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19:33 < wizisi2k> not as far as I know
19:33 < Dima202> eh
19:34 < Dima202> thanks
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19:43 < macpod> veteran
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20:00 < kantlivelong>  any recent updates?
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20:03 < wizisi2k> can anyone help me
20:03 < wizisi2k> I need help splitting a avi converted from ogm
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20:13 < hyarion> Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /www/ipodlinux.org/includes/Title.php on line 1221 (from ipodlinux.org) :(
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20:14 < websitenowork> hey whats with the ipodlinux website
20:15 < masquerade> it needs a kick
20:15 < masquerade> aegray, ping
20:15 < aegray> what
20:15 < aegray> pong
20:15  * masquerade points up
20:16 < masquerade> you in charge of the site?
20:16 < aegray> nope - Luke is probably working on it
20:17 < Dima202> hey guys u know of any progress of the new color ipod>
20:18 < hyarion> Dima202: stop asking please
20:18  * aegray praises hyarion 
20:18 < Dima202> sorry, just see dif people
20:18 < Dima202> so maybe someone knows
20:19 < hyarion> Dima202: give me your email and I'll send you an email when it's done
20:19 < hyarion> ok?
20:19 < Dima202> "_
20:19 < Dima202> :)
20:19 < Dima202> okay
20:19 < hyarion> or aim/icq
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20:19 < aegray> you never emailed me hyarion 
20:19 < aegray> i no longer trust you
20:19 < hyarion> ops
20:19 < hyarion> sory
20:20 < Dima202> OHH.. can't pm u, not registered
20:20 < Dima202> 1 sec
20:21 < websitenowork> whats being worked on for the ipod color?
20:21 < masquerade> websitenowork, color
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20:21 < masquerade> and, everything for 4g :-P
20:22 < websitenowork> sweet :)
20:22 < websitenowork> any ideas on when it might be done (i am not putting pressure on anyone, im just curious, and you can work at the pace you want)
20:23 < masquerade> websitenowork, way to freaking read along, read up a few lines
20:23 < websitenowork> he asked of progress
20:23 < websitenowork> i asked of finished product
20:23 < websitenowork> without any pressure
20:23 < websitenowork> and working at same pace of your wishes
20:24  * masquerade sighs and slams his head into a wall
20:24 < websitenowork> haha :P
20:25 < Dima202> hmm weird, icq tells me I CAN't sign in, server timed out, anyone else with this issue+
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20:28 < websitenowork> does anyone know sites with already converetd videos for color ipods
20:29 < Dima202> u have the photo web>
20:29 < Dima202> ?
20:29 < masquerade> websitenowork, you won't find any probably, most are HUGE
20:31 < websitenowork> i have the 4g color
20:32 < aegray> lol
20:32 < websitenowork> lol what
20:32 < Dima202> You do?
20:33 < Dima202> The "new" color? or the photo
20:34 < websitenowork> the "new" color
20:34 < Dima202> What? ANd you got it working :))))
20:34 < Dima202> ?
20:34 < websitenowork> yes.....
20:34 < websitenowork> ive had it working for a while
20:34 < Dima202> how? Plz tell!!!! :)
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20:34 < websitenowork> you install it on the ipod
20:34 < aegray> obviously its an old lcd version so don't freak out
20:34 < masquerade> Dima202, read the wiki
20:35 < Dima202> ooh
20:35 < websitenowork> lol
20:35 < Dima202> so it not 04?
20:35 < websitenowork> what?
20:35 < aegray> even if it is - there are a few 04's that have the old lcd
20:35 < Dima202> THe rev
20:35 < websitenowork> its a 4th generation ipod color
20:36 < Dima202> ooh.. So it rev 04 but will old lcd
20:36 < Dima202> lucky :)
20:36 < websitenowork> haha yea
20:36 < Dima202> :( Not lucky for me 
20:36 < Dima202> ;)
20:37 < websitenowork> :P
20:37 < websitenowork> i just cant get the video player to work on os x
20:37 < websitenowork> :(
20:38 < Dima202> So you are watching videos?
20:38 < Dima202> ooh
20:38 < aegray> i _really_ don't get the point
20:39 < websitenowork> i _really_ dont understand you
20:39 < aegray> it wastes battery like all hell, its a tiny screen thats a pain to hold, and its uncompressed.  
20:39 < Dima202> but it works for like 3 hours
20:39 < Dima202> thats not bad at all I think
20:40 < Dima202> Just enought time to get to college
20:40 < Dima202> When at college listen to music then go back and watch movies all the way back
20:40 < Dima202> Excellent!
20:40 < websitenowork> aegray you were the one who made it lol
20:40 < Dima202> Simpsons episodes :)
20:40 < aegray> does audio even stay in sync/]
20:40 < aegray> ?*]
20:40 < aegray> god i can't type
20:40 < websitenowork> lol not after the first 10 minutes
20:41 < Dima202> aegray, you made ipl video?
20:41 < aegray> i wrote the video part
20:42 < Dima202> awesome! and you don't know why it's usefull?
20:42 < aegray> i dunno
20:42 < aegray> i never use it
20:42 < aegray> maybe on a plane trip or something
20:43 < Dima202> how many hours do u get with orig. battery? on the color?
20:43 < masquerade> if only I had a color ipod, I might make some use of the video stuff
20:43 < Dima202> Plane trips I take are usually  more then 24 hours
20:43 < masquerade> 4 color grayscale is just not worth it
20:43 < Dima202> well around 18, 20
20:43 < aegray> no planes only like 3
20:43 < aegray> but i'm never just sitting around long enough to need my ipod to watch a movie
20:44 < Dima202> well I do.. heh :)
20:44 < aegray> i guess if i didn't drive maybe..
20:44 < Dima202> aah.. Yeah, I drive :(
20:44 < Dima202> I mean I don't drive
20:44 < Dima202> lol
20:44 < hyarion> aegray: Is Doom usfull? No, why did I want to port it then? Answer: because it's so cool to say "dude, I can play doom on my iPod" :)
20:44 < aegray> and its a challenge
20:45 < aegray> thats the only reason half this stuff gets written
20:45 < Dima202> 3fps?
20:45 < aegray> 15
20:45 < hyarion> :D
20:45 < aegray> nice job btw
20:45 < Dima202> 15 isn't bad !! Not bad at all for doom
20:46 < hyarion> could not have done that without your blitter code :)
20:46 < Dima202> it's pretty playable at 15fps
20:46 < aegray> haha
20:46 < aegray> i want to make something that i find useful
20:46  * aegray trying to find an idea
20:46 < hyarion> aegray: that's what the email was going to be about...
20:46  * masquerade is making something he is finding useful
20:46 < masquerade> calculator :D :D :D
20:47 < Dima202> Also a cool old game I remember was Wolfenstein
20:47 < Dima202> That would be cool to port ;)
20:49 < hyarion> it's not as easy as doom...
20:49 < websitenowork> is their that gameboy emulator for ipod 4g colors?
20:49 < Dima202> Yeah.. I even saw video
20:49  * hyarion downloaded the code for wolfenstein today
20:49 < Dima202> awesome.. I will play mario!:)
20:49 < websitenowork> yea when the website is fixed
20:49 < websitenowork> this website is down forever
20:49 < Dima202> Wolfenstein was way cooler then doom!
20:50 < hyarion> but it's only for borland c++ for 16bit systems
20:50 < aegray> you missing code maybe?
20:50 < aegray> there has to be a port
20:50 < websitenowork> make a game in realtime
20:50 < websitenowork> then itd not be gay and laggy
20:50 < aegray> huh?
20:51 < aegray> yea because its so easy
20:51 < websitenowork> umm
20:51 < aegray> mr. developer
20:51 < Dima202> hmm.. realtime?
20:51 < websitenowork> you wanted an idea
20:51 < websitenowork> i gave you one
20:51 < websitenowork> <aegray> and its a challenge
20:51 < websitenowork> muy bueno
20:52 < aegray> i'm talking useful for me - i don't really play games - i'm trying to come up with something that i'll use
20:52 < websitenowork> what else can you do with an ipod
20:52 < aegray> i'm thinking either webserver or pda/pim
20:52 < aegray> or something else - like wifi
20:53 < websitenowork> find a way to run windows on it
20:53 < aegray> i'd rather kill myself
20:53 < aegray> hehe
20:53 < Dima202> how hard would it be to make the ipod recieve tv?
20:53 < websitenowork> haha
20:53  * aegray looks at usb driver again
20:53 < websitenowork> lol thats what i was thinking
20:53 < Dima202> Write a lil hardware to work as a tuner
20:53 < Dima202> Connect it at the bottom of the ipod
20:53 < Dima202> and watch tv :)
20:53 < masquerade> Dima202, if you can find me someone who can write hardware
20:54 < aegray> Dima202: haha i had that idea a while ago and laughed at myself
20:54 < masquerade> I'll give you 10 biollion dollars
20:54 < websitenowork> or shoot it with a bow and arrow
20:54 < Dima202> masquerade, are u sure?
20:54 < masquerade> Dima202, yes, writing hardware would be a neat trick
20:54 < masquerade> making hardware is one thing, writing it is another
20:54  * aegray uses vhdl
20:54 < aegray> WINNER!
20:54 < Dima202> No I mean make hardware
20:54 < masquerade> you don't just pick up a pen and write and have hardware :-P
20:54 < aegray> masquerade: give me 10 billion
20:55 < aegray> masquerade: verilog!
20:55  * aegray waits for his money
20:55 < masquerade> aegray, the offer wasn't to you, :-P
20:55 < aegray> damnit
20:55 < websitenowork> damnit
20:55 < Dima202> shit
20:56 < masquerade> shit
20:56 < websitenowork> vulva
20:56 < Dima202> vulva?
20:56 < masquerade> aww, you broke the chain
20:56  * masquerade beats Dima202 with a pile of flaming turds
20:56 < Dima202> shit
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21:00 < websitenowork> penis?
21:02 < websitenowork> timer[name] [-ceom] [time] <repetitions> <interval> <commands>
21:02 < websitenowork> thats my first name
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21:05  * websitenowork slaps websitenowork around a bit with a large trout
21:07 < websitenowork> /load -rs pxinput.mrc
21:07 < websitenowork> /load -rs pxinput.mrc
21:08 < websitenowork> thats my second name
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21:10 < Dima202> what is that> /load -rs pxinput.mrc
21:10 < Z_Man> he's loading an mIRC script
21:10 < Z_Man> mIRC sucks.
21:11 < Dima202> mirc.. windows... suck!!!
21:11 < Z_Man> yep
21:11 < Dima202> mirc is a good client btw
21:11 < Dima202> I like it
21:11 < Z_Man> no it sucks
21:11 < Dima202> I could do many things with it on a win system when everythign was restricted
21:11 < Dima202> I gained admin
21:11 < Dima202> using mirc
21:11 < Dima202> lol
21:12 < Z_Man> :-p
21:12 < Dima202> Also we have internet cafe's in russia and they charge by the hour
21:12 < Dima202> everything was restricted but I found the app that was doing that and killed it
21:12 < Dima202> Had uunlimited time
21:12 < Dima202> But they noticed :(
21:13 < Dima202> Kicked me out :(
21:13 < Dima202> HEH, After 2 days straight, who wouldn't"
21:13 < Dima202> The moral of the story is: Don't be greeedyh
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21:15 < masquerade> aegray, courtc, I love you both
21:15 < aegray> why?
21:15 < masquerade> for helping me out last night
21:15 < aegray> ah
21:15 < aegray> np
21:15 < masquerade> I got the calculator working
21:15 < Dima202> mmm. Sounds interesting !
21:16 < Dima202> What did they do??? ;)
21:16 < Dima202> hahaha
21:16 < Dima202> :) kidding
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21:50 < x8> humm, anyone know how to mount an ipod thats like, hanging, and not responding to reset or anything like that :\
21:52 < x8> ah nevermind I headbutted it . problem solved!
21:52 < zsr> o_O
21:53 < x8> I've come to the conclusion now that headbutting solves everything!
21:53 < x8> its like the universal troubleshooting guide
21:53 < masquerade> nah, sledgehammers work a little better in my expirence
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21:54 < x8> like the real ones or the classy rubber ones
21:54 < x8> acme sledgehammer
21:55 < masquerade> like real ones
21:55 < masquerade> a good ole 20 pounder
21:56 < x8> ooo the ones you need to drink milk to lift otherwise your arms will fall off
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21:56 < psycode> hello again,
21:56 < psycode> i'm having problems compiling floydzilla to run on x (using the auto script)
21:57 < zsr> well you have to explain your problem if you need help
21:58 < x8> I hate thsi stupid firmware updater
21:58 < masquerade> zsr, I madeth the sexieth calculatoreth
21:58 < zsr> ;o
21:58 < zsr> schend
21:58 < zsr> <3
21:58 < masquerade> zsr, requires some hackery
21:58 < masquerade> I'll make quick instructions
21:58 < Capso> Heh.
21:59 < masquerade> zsr, basically, it needs your /bin/sh to be replaced, bc in /bin
22:00 < zsr> k
22:00 < zsr> not a prob bob
22:03 < psycode> zsr, i'ved downloaded floyd source, and extracted it into a directory named podzilla-cvs (so that the autoscript will handle it as the cvs-downloaded podzilla source) then i edited out the lines in the auto script which download stuff from the cvs, and ran it .. it seemed to work, but i get no binaries ..
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22:06 < psycode> sorry, i do get an error: make: *** No rule to make target `DopeWars/init.o', needed by `podzilla'.  Stop.
22:08 < psycode> oh wait, i think i found the problem ...
22:09 < masquerade> zsr, http://68.33.239.27/calculator.tar.bz2
22:09 < masquerade> and, for anyone else who wants a cool calculator, that podzilla build is with MPD and stuff too just fyi
22:09 < masquerade> I'll upload source later, for now, I'm off
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22:10 < psycode> yay floydZilla compiled, the problem was that the makefile refered to a directory called "dopewars" as "DopeWars" ... if you can inform the developer ...
22:12 < courtc> s/developer/compiler/
22:13 < psycode> courtc, the compiler has nothing to do with that ...
22:14 < hyarion> psycode: not gccompiler, floydcompiler
22:14 < hyarion> he havn't developed anything
22:15 < psycode> huh?
22:15 < psycode> oh i see
22:15 < courtc> the compiler(person), not compiler(toolchain)
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22:15 < psycode> :-) ok
22:16 < courtc> dansfloyd btw
22:18 < psycode> yeah, i emailed him
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22:19 < zsr> masquerade, youll have to upload the source sometime
22:19 < zsr> im using a custom version of floydzilla, wanna compile that in there :)
22:21 < psycode> is the iBoy supposed to work natively from floydZilla ? because none of the games seem to open (im running it on x)
22:23 < zsr> you have to have the roms :P
22:23 < psycode> zsr, oh, where should i put them ?
22:25 < zsr> /hp/roms
22:25 < zsr> read the readme
22:25 < zsr> it explains it better
22:26 < psycode> i think there isn't a readme in the source archieve .. im downloading the binary
22:26 < zsr> no no the floydzilla readme
22:27 < zsr> should be in there somewhere
22:27 < psycode> there is only a README explaining how to compile
22:28 < zsr> hmm
22:28 < zsr> let me see if i can find it for oyu
22:28 < zsr> you*
22:30 < zsr> whoa...
22:31 < psycode> ?
22:31 < zsr> this is totally different from the last update
22:31 < zsr> let me see if i still have the original floydzilla thingy
22:32 < psycode> why is it different ? ( we're talking about the source right ?)
22:32 < zsr> oh nevermind
22:32 < zsr> well i was looking at the binary
22:32 < zsr> alright if i pm you?
22:32 < psycode> sure
22:34 < zsr> you are getting thoes right?
22:34 < zsr> those*
22:36 < psycode> i am
22:36 < zsr> k
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22:38 < zsr> if you sent anything, im not getting it which means youll either have to answer in here or register
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22:38 < psycode> oh
22:38 < psycode> sorry i havent identified
22:38 < zsr> np :)
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23:01 < Zol> anyone alive?
23:02 < zsr> yeah
23:02 < Capso> "Alive" can be a very vague term.
23:03 < courtc> yes, quite.
23:04 < courtc> I, for example, am dead inside, but living on the outside.
23:04 < Dima202> hey! What could be an abstract version of whirled?
23:04 < kantlivelong>  ne news?
23:05 < courtc> Yes. 'any' has three letters.
23:05 < kantlivelong>  AMAZING? who woulda thought our tax paying woulda brought us to this great achievement
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23:07 < courtc> nimmer.
23:07 < nimmer> : /
23:07 < nimmer> ?
23:07 < courtc> what is Nimmerpod?
23:07 < nimmer> podzilla with gui for photo
23:08 < courtc> Please don't make 'Under Construction' pages
23:08 < nimmer> ?
23:08 < nimmer> ah you mean the wiki
23:08 < nimmer> ya just check an register , wanted to add this weekend
23:10 < courtc> ok
23:11 < nimmer> www.confidence-mag.de/nimmerpod can allready test it but still big bug when yu close a app and jump back to the menu. its blank =( until you make a action
23:18 < courtc> heh
23:24 < Capso> I wonder if SBC can sue me for getting attacked.
23:25 < Capso> Heh.
23:25 < Capso> Found a loophole.
23:26 < hyarion> nimmer: how about send some kind of draw event before/after you execute the app?
23:27 < slowcoder>  hyarion: Whereabouts in .se are you ? 
23:27 < nimmer> ya i allready tried but i  guees cause iam allways draw into a pixmap the real _gc is allways blank. clould this be?
23:28 < courtc> make sure the window focus is handled properly.
23:28 < nimmer> kk thx
23:29  * courtc afk
23:29 < zsr> Capso, what happened?
23:30 < Capso> I'm bound by a contract with SBC, I must stick with them for 2 years or I pay $200 to terminate the contract before then.
23:30 < Capso> They change my IP every 4 days, and the highest direct upload speed I've gotten is 52 Kbps.
23:30 < zsr> what is it advertised as?
23:30 < Capso> 384 - 512 Kbps
23:31 < zsr> ;o
23:31 < Capso> I'm not paying them $200 to move to Comcast.
23:31 < Capso> Heck no.
23:31 < Capso> All I have to do is disturb some member of the GNAA...
23:31 < Capso> Or just some random script-kiddie...
23:31 < Capso> And get 'em to packet me for a while...
23:31 < Capso> SBC will feel it, they'll probably just change my IP...
23:32 < zsr> yeah :/
23:32 < Capso> After sometime, they're going to get disrupted...
23:32 < slowcoder> Or call the BBB, since you're not getting what you're paying for
23:32 < zsr> ;o
23:32 < Capso> And hopefully terminate my contract.
23:32 < slowcoder> That'll make them wanna drop you
23:32 < Capso> Heh.
23:32 < Capso> Don't want to be a narc or anything.
23:33 < zsr> they arent holding their promise though
23:33 < zsr> false advertisement
23:33 < Capso> And it's not as if they can sue me for BEING attacked.
23:33 < Capso> I might post it up everywhere on the Net... most probably the BBB as well.
23:33 < Capso> That SBC is crap.
23:34 < zsr> well i heard that sbc was asking for hand outs or something, so sbc already has a bad name
23:34 < zsr> (handouts from the govt)
23:34 < Capso> Comcast is far better.
23:34 < zsr> definately...
23:34 < zsr> goes out from time to time but much more reliable
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23:36 < Capso> Heh.
23:36 < Capso> I'll find a way.
23:37 < dioz__> do it
23:38 < zsr> lol thanks capt. obvious! :D
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23:40 < Capso> SBC even limits me to IRC takeovers.
23:40 < Capso> And prohibits Bots.
23:40 < Capso> F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fuck that, cheerio!
23:42 < zsr> well just dont breach the contract
23:42 < zsr> if you do that, youll be dandy
23:42 < zsr> they arent upholding their end, perfect excuse :P
23:42 < Capso> The most they can do is terminate my account.
23:42 < Capso> Not as if they can sue me.
23:43 < Capso> Unless I DDoS their Routers -- which would be extremely idiotic.
23:43 < zsr> of course :P
23:43 < zsr> shit, you arent doing anything illegal
23:43 < zsr> not a damn thing they can say to you
23:43 < Capso> I really don't care.
23:44 < Capso> I'm just going to do what I do best -- pick a fight.
23:44 < zsr> who gonna win? Capso, of course ;D
23:44 < Capso> The point is for the other party to screw me over.
23:44 < Capso> Not for me to win.
23:45 < zsr> hopefully they do that
23:45 < zsr> k time to wax the car, bbl
23:45 < zsr> good luck with that
23:45 < Capso> They say... EFNet's the best place for such activities.
23:47 < dioz__> who's they ?
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23:54 < masquerade> zsr, calculator work alright for you?
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23:59 < jmstacey> Is there (would there be) any advantage in linux-2.6 vs. 2.4 if it worked on the ipod? (other than it having a bigger number version ;)  )
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