--- Log opened Tue Oct 04 00:00:01 2005 00:00 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool250-209.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:29 < jmstacey> is there a modified mp3 decoder that allows multitasking (besides mpd)? 00:29 < josh_> search for multizilla 00:29 < josh_> it's really old 00:30 < jmstacey> I remember seing something about it on the forums (not multizilla), it was a modified .c file 00:30 < jmstacey> that was it (or so it seemed) 00:34 < jmstacey> not ringin any bells? 00:34 < josh_> nope 00:39 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@dslb-084-061-133-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 00:47 -!- Deacon-Class [i=Deacon@68-79-129-59.ip.meauth.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:47 < Deacon-Class> Is there a changelog somewhere for the nightly builds? 00:48 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/CVS 00:56 -!- psycode [n=yoni@bzq-80-6-126.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:59 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:59 -!- Deacon-Class [i=Deacon@68-79-129-59.ip.meauth.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:08 < Dima202> check this out 01:08 < Dima202> http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/phreak/phreaking_out_your_ipod.txt 01:22 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:29 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 01:29 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 -!- BamaWOLF_ [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:31 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:47 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:51 -!- Jambo616 [n=pandafus@cpe-66-87-151-238.il.sprintbbd.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:57 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:57 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:59 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-35-248.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 02:00 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-26-182-222.indy.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:04 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:04 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 -!- meatmanek [n=meatmane@cpe-65-26-182-222.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-67-10-169-48.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:21 < Dima202> hey guys what was that site with videos 02:21 < Dima202> on some german site 02:30 < courtc> http://www.google.de/search?q=videos 02:31 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 < josh_> haha 02:40 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:42 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:01 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 03:15 < Zol> lol 03:15 < Zol> those suscription cvs changes really lag 03:15 < josh_> actually, yes :P 03:15 < Zol> and they're not in plain english like aegray made it out to be =p 03:16 < josh_> haha 03:16 < josh_> "Stop making guesses at structure sizes moron.. Fixed a segfault problem with indexes in 2bppconv" 03:17 < Zol> yes, exactly, proves my point wonderfully 03:17 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=31171#31171 03:18 < courtc> great.... 03:18 < courtc> I'm sure he'll fix it with guesses like that... 03:18 < josh_> haha 03:19 < josh_> courtc: do you have access to a Linux X11 box? want to test a certain podzilla variant? 03:19 < courtc> i do, sure 03:20 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 03:20 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:20 < josh_> 1 sec 03:20 < courtc> I don't have much time though. I have to write a paper tonight and I haven't decided on a topic yet. :/ 03:20 < josh_> haha 03:20 < josh_> ok 03:21 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/ttkzilla % ls core* 03:21 < josh_> core.17523 core.17839 core.25717 core.25725 core.25728 core.6535 03:21 < josh_> ahh, debugging :P 03:23 < josh_> okay, you'll have to make do with source, don't think you have enough time for me to do a 32-bit compile (have to recompile all libs etc.) 03:23 < josh_> here 'tis: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttkzilla.tar.gz 03:23 < josh_> er, wait... you'd need TTK then. Darn it. :P 03:23 -!- jaebird [n=jaebird@208.184.145.65] has joined #ipodlinux 03:25 -!- Capso [i=nanOld4@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:25 < courtc> yup, need ttk & its corresponding config 03:26 < josh_> okay 03:26 < josh_> making tarball 03:27 -!- Capso [i=nanOld4@unaffiliated/capso] has joined #iPodLinux 03:27 < josh_> just `make' and `sudo make install' (it installs a library in /usr/lib, a library in your ARM toolchain lib folder, and a folder full of header files in /usr/include (plus the ttk-config script in /usr/bin)). 03:27 < josh_> here 03:27 < josh_> *here 'tis: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-0.8.tar.gz 03:27 < Zol> lol 03:27 < josh_> [it'll be 1.0 when I finish the API documentation :P] 03:28 < Zol> thats one of the reasons i'm edgy about using linux =p 03:28 < courtc> 3.6M? 03:28 < courtc> geez 03:28 < josh_> includes all the iPod libs for SDL etc. 03:28 < josh_> as well as a bunch of fonts 03:28 < courtc> ahh, that'll do it 03:28 < Capso> Courtc. 03:28 < josh_> er, and a core file that slipped my notice :P 03:28 < courtc> Zol: you talk nonsense 03:29 < courtc> Capso. 03:29 < josh_> haha, that 6.2MB core file. Oops. 03:29 < Zol> courtc: all these shell commands, so hard to remember 03:29 < courtc> boohoo 03:29 < josh_> there, now it's 1.4MB 03:30 < courtc> Connection closed at byte 3350200. 03:30 < courtc> bastard 03:30 < josh_> gah 03:30 < josh_> haha 03:30 < josh_> note to self: oremanj@xenon /home/oremanj/dev/ttk % cp ttk-0.8.tar.gz ~/html/t 03:30 < josh_> not a good idea when someone's downloading ~/html/t/ttk-0.8.tar.gz. 03:30 < Zol> lol 03:31 < courtc> Zol: easier than click here, browse to the registry there 03:32 < Zol> see courtc? i was totally lost by what you said there 03:33 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 03:33 < josh_> courtc: agreed 03:34 < courtc> josh_: in SDL_Primatives.h and SDL_rotozoom.h : #include or "SDL.h" not SDL/SDL.h ;) 03:34 < aegray> cvs changes are for those who know how to read patches 03:34 < josh_> courtc: . . . deja vu . . . 03:34 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-216-154.mad.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:35 < courtc> josh_: heh 03:36 < josh_> btw, the mwin backend is done also and seems to work as well as SDL at least on the desktop, with the exception of the occasional flicker. 03:36 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:36 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 < courtc> ipodlinux/ttk-0.8/build/x11-mwin/mwin.c:329: undefined reference to `GrCreateFont' 03:39 < josh_> okay, that's odd 03:39 < courtc> bunches of linking errors 03:40 < josh_> can you /msg me some others, as well as the gcc line? 03:40 < josh_> all the mwin libs are included, there shouldn't be a problem there 03:40 < josh_> unless ... wait a second... oops, they're 64-bit libs. Heh. 03:40 < courtc> that's make on ttkzilla btw 03:40 < josh_> yeah, that'd be it 03:41 < josh_> try make clean all SDL=1 03:41 < Gnub> how do u guyz dump dmesg to a file? cause dmesg > log doesnt work for me 03:41 < josh_> to build it against SDL instead 03:41 < josh_> Gnub: dmesg 2>&1 > log? 03:41 < Gnub> that'l work? 03:41 < courtc> josh_: no redirect with sash :( 03:41 < josh_> Gnub: is this on iPL? 03:42 < courtc> do I really have to make a fonts list? 03:42 -!- Luke_ is now known as Luke 03:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:42 < josh_> ln -s ../ttk/fonts . 03:42 < Gnub> uh nightly i guess i did it myself with premade bins 03:42 < josh_> problem solved 03:42 < josh_> :P 03:42 < josh_> (er, that'd be ../ttk-0.8/fonts) 03:42 < Gnub> i like the apple II font 03:42 < Gnub> not too small not to big 03:42 < courtc> josh_: looks ... ummm broken.. 03:43 < josh_> ln -s ../ttk/schemes . 03:43 < josh_> almost all black? 03:43 < courtc> all the text 03:43 < josh_> it couldn't find the color schemes. (And you probably got a warning on your terminal as well, or if not I should add that...) 03:43 < courtc> ahh, better 03:43 < Gnub> i tried compiling bash but i got an error so i gave up maybe i should try an older ver 03:44 < josh_> courtc: known non-working things are MPDC (hey, maybe rewriting it will fix it! :P), wheel sensitivity, and dir-name-in-file-browser-title. 03:44 < courtc> Gnub: use minix-sh 03:44 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:45 < courtc> header.c:331:2: #error Implement MPD status indicator . . . 03:46 < aegray> haha 03:46 < courtc> looks real good josh_ 03:46 < Gnub> doesnt uc linux come with minix? 03:47 < courtc> Gnub: no, get it off my server http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/minix_sh 03:47 < Gnub> that the bin 03:48 < courtc> no, its a hamburger 03:48 < Gnub> Mmm Beef 03:50 < SkuggiG> haha finally found a px100 on ebay :) 03:51 < SkuggiG> haha even better there are 7 ft man eating lizards in flordia lol 03:51 < courtc> yea josh_ , very nice work, If I get some time I'll look at the code, but now it's to the coffee and writing my group's paper by myself. 03:53 < SkuggiG> oh yea almost forgot the every 10 minute question, "Any news on getting ipl to work on the iPod 4G with the Color Screens" lol 03:53 < courtc> I've been wasting my time writing a collaberative editor, it's a multi-person text-editor 03:53 < Gnub> cool 03:53 < SkuggiG> what's it for? 03:53 < courtc> editing text 03:53 < Gnub> with a little irc box at the bottom? 03:53 < courtc> nope. 03:54 < SkuggiG> yea i get that, but you said collaberative editor 03:54 -!- macpod1 [n=macpod@hc6524bd0.dhcp.vt.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 < SkuggiG> is it web, or to be lunched over a network or what? 03:54 < courtc> lunched? 03:54 < Gnub> hehehe 03:54 < SkuggiG> hmm... guess i'm still hungry 03:54 < courtc> yea, person A opens a file and whoever wants to help connect to person a. 03:55 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:55 -!- macpod [n=macpod@hc6524b7b.dhcp.vt.edu] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:55 -!- macpod1 is now known as macpod 03:56 < SkuggiG> well for just text if you really wanted you could just network word, but i'm guessing you want this for writing code? 03:56 < courtc> nah, whatever. 03:57 < courtc> and who in thier right mind uses word? 03:57 < SkuggiG> me 03:58 < courtc> like I said. 03:58 < SkuggiG> Windows XP is t3h Ubernezz 03:58 < josh_> courtc: cool 03:58 < josh_> thanks for your testing 03:58 < josh_> was afk for like 15 minutes, dinner 03:58 < courtc> np 03:58 < josh_> the majority of the code is unmodified 03:58 -!- IRCIPOD [n=chatzill@211-148.reslink.csus.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:58 < josh_> (every game except Minesweeper and Pong, and those two were roughly two-line changes). 03:59 < SkuggiG> i need to install that opensource windows clone one of these days 03:59 < SkuggiG> been saying that for awhile now. 03:59 < courtc> SkuggiG: don't bother. 03:59 < SkuggiG> PONG! 03:59 < aegray> reactos? 03:59 < courtc> use something that works. 03:59 < SkuggiG> yea 03:59 < aegray> ouch 04:00 < SkuggiG> actually wanna make a few live cd's with cnc generals on it 04:00 < SkuggiG> that way we can play that durring class 04:00 < courtc> freecnc 04:00 -!- Vinnymac [n=vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:00 < SkuggiG> nah generals 04:01 < courtc> like I said freecnc 04:01 < courtc> don't dismiss something before you know what it is. 04:01 < SkuggiG> oh well yea 04:02 < SkuggiG> need the creative audio ported over to iPod 04:03 < SkuggiG> cause creatives sound way better than iPod only reason i stuck with iPod is for the color screen and the video feature soon :) 04:03 < courtc> port a 200mhz prcessor on to it while you are at it. 04:04 < courtc> soon nothing. NOW! 04:04 < josh_> haha 04:05 < SkuggiG> actually 04:05 < SkuggiG> it's possible 04:05 < SkuggiG> not probable but we've done it to xboxes 04:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 04:06 -!- SkuggiG was kicked from #ipodlinux by courtc [no reason.] 04:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by ChanServ 04:06 -!- SkuggiG [n=SkuggiG@c-24-3-196-231.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:06 < SkuggiG> *yawn* 04:07 < JonasNZ> courtc, i *yawn* at lamers like SkuggiG dont you? 04:08 < SkuggiG> right... i'm the lamer... 04:08 < courtc> You know how someone starts spurting dumb all over you and you just want to kick them in the shin? 04:08 < Gnub> whats the cmd i can put in my rc to open minix and dump dmesg 04:08 < courtc> yea, that what that was, a kick... in the shin 04:09 < courtc> Gnub: replace your ipods /bin/sh with minix-sh and dmesg >log will work 04:09 < Gnub> oh kno replace my SH :( 04:10 < SkuggiG> haha that wasnt dumb, sorry i dont look at stuff and just see it for what it is... you were talking like you couldnt upgrade the processor in it, i look at it as it could be done, just wouldnt be profitable 04:10 -!- IRCIPOD [n=chatzill@211-148.reslink.csus.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:10 < courtc> I should get your other shin too. I'm just too lazy 04:11 < Gnub> or call up a shll script #!/bin/minix-sh ; dmesg>log 04:11 < Gnub> eh? 04:11 < Gnub> that work? 04:11 < SkuggiG> lol 04:11 < courtc> yea, but thats just sillyness 04:11 < Gnub> nah 04:11 < Gnub> thats usin ur n00dle 04:12 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool245-13.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 < courtc> I guess, but minix-sh is much more desirable than sash. 04:13 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:14 < Gnub> any1 have any problems with swapin it out? 04:14 < courtc> no 04:14 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:15 < SkuggiG> bah was gonna link it but they went outta buisness i guess, but they were taking xboxes and putting 1.2ghz chips in them rather than the stock 733's 04:15 < josh_> Gnub: recommended to keep sash as /bin/sh, in case you need to enter any commands 04:15 < josh_> (minix-sh won't be interactive on the iPod) 04:16 < SkuggiG> but there is a book out by a student who started a lot of that called hacking the xbox, it's a pretty cool read 04:16 < courtc> SkuggiG: you know I can swap out ram in my computer, I guess I can do it on the iPod too right? 04:16 < Gnub> aw man no key iput? 04:16 < SkuggiG> depends, i know nothing of how the memory works in the iPod 04:17 < SkuggiG> but it wont be a swap 04:17 < josh_> Gnub: you just launch sash if you want that 04:17 < courtc> or the cpu apparently. 04:17 < Gnub> what do i have to do to make minix accept input like sash 04:18 < SkuggiG> nope, but it would be possible, especially if they use a stock form processor like a lot of other lil electronic devices or like the xbox and it's modified celeron processor, they would have to create an adapter to be soldered in to allow it to accept another processor 04:18 < SkuggiG> ram on the xbox is a stock type just desolder the old type and solder in the new stuff 04:18 < courtc> SkuggiG: pp50{20,02,22} 04:18 < courtc> is that stock enough? 04:18 < courtc> dual ARM7TDMIs? 04:19 < SkuggiG> ah now i'm getting it, ARM processors are usually stock 04:19 < SkuggiG> hell they're used in all the palmpilots 04:19 < SkuggiG> toshiba uses'em in their pdas so yea i'd expect you could get your hands on a compatible upgrade 04:20 < courtc> SkuggiG: do you spend much time on the forums? 04:21 < SkuggiG> iPod forums? nah, mostly pc modding and xbox forums 04:21 < courtc> you'd fit right in. 04:22 < josh_> haha 04:22 < courtc> the ipods use a portal player chipset, they have dual arm cores built-in. what the hell would you replace it with that is register compatible? 04:23 * masquerade wanders in and sees insanity 04:23 < masquerade> replace the processors in the ipod with something register compatible? 04:23 < masquerade> what is this world coming to? 04:24 < Zol> lets replace the processors with intel 3.0 dual core mini ones :P 04:24 < Zol> *3.0ghc 04:24 < Zol> **ghz 04:25 < courtc> *register compatible* 04:25 < SkuggiG> well you can mod and upgrade PDA's in the same fashion 04:25 < courtc> thats not even the same arch 04:25 < Zol> then replace the hdd with sony's flash 04:25 < Zol> then the ipod will be the same size :D 04:26 < Zol> but faster :o 04:26 < courtc> Zol: and only about 800 degrees 04:26 < SkuggiG> nah, couldnt power that with the battery 04:26 < masquerade> Zol, hell, lets put a gig of RAM in too 04:26 < masquerade> Zol, and a 8 cell lith-ion battery, and a 15.4" screen 04:26 < SkuggiG> rofl 04:26 < courtc> SkuggiG: but you can't with an ipod. 04:26 < Zol> masq: i was joking too you know :p 04:26 < SkuggiG> nah you gotta come up with a foldable 15.4" screen :) 04:26 < masquerade> add a keyboard and a mouse too 04:27 < masquerade> oh wait, my bad, that's a laptop 04:27 < SkuggiG> i dont believe in cant lol 04:27 < SkuggiG> i say if there is a will there is a way especially with technology 04:28 < SkuggiG> it may not be easy or cheap but if someone wanted to spend the money to upgrade an iPods processors I'm sure it could be done somehow but also like i said it wouldnt be probable 04:28 < cdm> no, it could not be done. 04:28 < courtc> If there's a will and a brick wall you won't stop until you've knocked your head into mush. 04:28 < masquerade> SkuggiG, short of replacing the ipods case, in which sense it really isn't much of an ipod anymore, there is not a way in this day and age 04:28 < macpod> I would like to see that. 04:29 < SkuggiG> no, you'd learn how to develop a cannon, oh wait that was done 04:29 < courtc> SkuggiG: told. straight from an ipod engineer. 04:29 < josh_> courtc: short version of ttkzilla changes: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttkzilla-changes.txt 04:30 < macpod> not another one... 04:30 * masquerade fails to see why there are so many forks 04:30 < josh_> macpod: don't lose heart just yet 04:30 < macpod> Yea, I know, yours uses the different gui stuff 04:30 < josh_> yeah 04:30 < josh_> and keeps full PZ compatibility, etc. 04:32 -!- satan165 [n=satan165@adsl-64-109-167-143.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:32 < Zol> cdm: how much would it cost if i wanted to get my ipod refurbished, or get it replaced with a refurbished one? 04:32 < SkuggiG> i think it depends whats wrong with it, i know it's 59 bucks for a battery 04:32 < satan165> i got linux installed and it works fine but it says 'cant play mp3' for any music i put on there (and i can play the same songs fine when i boot into the apple OS) 04:33 < courtc> satan165: what gui? 04:34 < satan165> podzilla will not play mp3s, says 'cant play mp3' 04:34 < satan165> same mp3s play fine in the apple OS 04:34 < courtc> yea, the second time was much more clear. 04:34 < courtc> Again! 04:34 < satan165> im sorry, i dont understand your question then 04:35 < courtc> you are using a podzilla nightly? 04:35 < satan165> sure, what ever 04:35 < courtc> josh_: what's wrong with ellipse? 04:36 < masquerade> satan165, wonderful attitude 04:36 < satan165> i apologize and im not trying to take an attiude, i dont understand your question 04:36 < courtc> thats fine, just say so. 04:36 < satan165> i did 04:36 < courtc> where did you get your podzilla from? 04:36 < josh_> courtc: SDL's ellipse doesn't look very good at really small sizes, it tries to be too mathematically accurate. 04:37 < courtc> ah 04:37 < satan165> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinuxinst 04:37 < josh_> only affected pong and the m:robe decorations 04:37 < josh_> and minesweeper, but I thought it actually looked better there. 04:38 < courtc> satan165: what version of the installer? 04:38 < satan165> 1.2.1 04:38 < satan165> tho when i ran it it found 1.3 online and used that i believe 04:38 < Gnub> 04:39 < courtc> satan165: you use Ephpod? 04:39 < Gnub> ew 04:39 < satan165> yes 04:39 < Gnub> gtkpod in the hizzy 04:39 < satan165> how did you guess 04:39 < Gnub> itz free 04:39 < courtc> I'm amazing like that. 04:39 < satan165> is that the cause of my problem somehow? 04:39 < courtc> satan165: do you know how to use the 'start' file? 04:40 * Gnub says it messt his pod up more than once 04:40 < satan165> no, not sure what you are refering to 04:40 < courtc> ok, do you know how to make a file without an extension? 04:40 < Gnub> a file named "start" in the zip u got? and podzill etc 04:41 < satan165> yes i understand 04:41 < satan165> add a file named 'start' with no extension to the installers directory 04:41 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:42 < Gnub> my iboy doesnt pplay sound 04:42 < courtc> ok, mount your ipod, make a file Z:/start (where Z: is your ipod's driver letter), in it put: ln -s /iPod_Control /ipod_control 04:42 < blindx> sux 2 b u 04:42 < Gnub> does urs work? 04:43 < blindx> mine? 04:43 < Gnub> iboy 04:43 < masquerade> my iboy works :D 04:43 < masquerade> sucks that I can't fully play my zelda game since it requires pushing multiple buttons at once :( 04:43 < Gnub> what can i do to get my snd workin on it 04:43 < masquerade> oh, sound, no clue 04:44 < Gnub> dang 04:44 * courtc idle, someone take over with satan165 04:45 < satan165> ive got the file which contains that command in the directory as i was instructed. shall i reboot now? 04:45 < courtc> yes 04:45 < courtc> `Ephpod 04:46 < blindx> oh shit :[ 04:46 < satan165> ok ive booted into podzilla 04:46 < blindx> i cant put iboy on my color ipod? ;[ 04:46 < Gnub> why 04:47 < blindx> "Only works on 4g ipods - the actual 4g - ie the grayscale one" 04:47 < Gnub> serious? i figure color and 4g were "tight" 04:47 * blindx shurgs 04:47 < blindx> er 04:48 < blindx> shrugs 04:49 < courtc> `Ephpod is Ephpod takes advantage of the case-insensitivity of the FAT file system, in order to resolve this and the "can't play mp3" problem, you'll need to make a link from /ipod_control to /iPod_Control 04:50 < Dima202> hey guys 04:50 < Dima202> what do u think of this? 04:50 < Dima202> http://www.iperris.com/camp34.htm 04:50 < Gnub> yeah in /etc/rc satan165 04:51 < satan165> ive created the 'start' file in the root directory of my ipod but it still will not play mp3s in podziilla 04:51 < courtc> Dima202: all-in-retarded 04:52 * courtc leaves, really 04:52 < Gnub> cya thanx 4 minix 04:53 < Gnub> \hes gets the some of that cash from the donationbox right? 04:53 < Gnub> <-gets paid wed 04:53 < Capso> Courtc: Gone? 04:54 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:55 < courtc> Capso: I need to be, whadda need? 04:55 < Capso> Nothing. 04:55 < Capso> Have a nice night. 04:56 < courtc> umm. ok. 04:56 < Capso> You still need a Pastebin? 04:56 < courtc> You too. :S 04:56 < satan165> any idea what else i need to do? should i try using itunes instead of ephpod? 04:56 < Capso> Courtc: You still need a Pastebin? 04:56 < courtc> umm, no. ? 04:57 < courtc> satan165: make sure that file has no extension. 04:57 < satan165> it has no extension 04:57 < Capso> If you do, you're always welcome to use mine... I can setup a Bot to output any new pastes into the Channel for ease. 04:57 < satan165> i created the file with notepad 04:57 < Capso> If you want. 04:57 < satan165> then removed the .txt 04:57 < courtc> I REALLY have to go guys, sorry/ 04:58 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has joined #ipodlinux 04:58 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 04:59 < Gnub> does ipodeth1394 work for usb also? 04:59 < masquerade> Gnub, 1394 is firewire, thus no 05:00 < Gnub> heh 05:00 < Zol> cdm :ping 05:01 < Gnub> then maybe i should checkout its source see if i can adapt it to usb 05:01 < masquerade> Gnub, good luck with that, firewire is meant to have an eth over firewire, usb is not 05:02 < Gnub> oh 05:02 < Gnub> i didnt kno that 05:04 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 05:06 -!- satan165 [n=satan165@adsl-64-109-167-143.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:07 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 05:14 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8CE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 05:14 < Vinnymac> Does anyone know what to do if you have PodZilla and the update for the Ipod made it stop working. Whenever i restart my ipod than put it on hold like it supposed to, it just runs the regular thing. 05:15 < cdm> Zol: pong 05:15 < cdm> zol: I have no idea. 05:16 < Gnub> use linx 05:17 < Vinnymac> linux?... 05:18 < Zol> aw 05:18 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has joined #ipodlinux 05:18 < jmstacey> Anybody familiar with C? 05:19 < Gnub> README :P 05:19 < cdm> maybe a little. 05:19 < Gnub> heh 05:20 -!- wendt [n=wendt@ip68-2-68-231.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 05:20 < jmstacey> Instead of compile a debugger for the ipod, I want to dump the structure+data of an array (or allocated memory... whatever) to a file for inspection. Kind of like php's print_r(): 05:21 < cdm> you can print anything you want with printf(). 05:21 < cdm> or, for a file, fprintf(). 05:22 < cdm> but there isn't anything that will walk an arbitrary data structure for you and print it out. 05:22 < jmstacey> cdm: unlike in php, I'd have to put the code in to write a data structure for me? 05:23 < cdm> right. 05:23 < josh_> jmstacey: you know, we *have* ported gdb to the iPod... 05:23 < jmstacey> josh_: Does that help much when trying to tear apart an array (what do you call it?) 05:23 < josh_> sure 05:23 < josh_> p array 05:24 < josh_> (except that you have to also have the source on the iPod :P) 05:24 < josh_> etc. 05:24 < josh_> look up ~[wiki iPod Toolchain] 05:24 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 05:24 < josh_> gah 05:24 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/IPod_Toolchain 05:24 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A8CE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 05:26 < jmstacey> I think dumping to a file will be more helpful. I don't see how compiling on the ipod itself will help... 05:26 < jmstacey> I'm probably missing something though 05:26 -!- wendt [n=wendt@ip68-2-68-231.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 05:30 -!- Vinnymac [n=vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.53=-"] 05:31 < jmstacey> So would something like this work as expected? fprintf("/hp/dump.txt", "%s\n", searchIndex); 05:31 < jmstacey> Trying to solve the mpdc mystery (annoyance) 05:31 < Gnub> hmm that must be whats experimental about the sound when i oss_enabled=1 ala iboy.conf and try loading a rom it freezes halfway 05:32 < Gnub> maybe i need a newer kernel? 05:33 -!- _javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:33 < cdm> jmstacey: only if searchIndex is a string. 05:34 < jmstacey> hmmm... (you can see I know nothing of C) 05:34 < jmstacey> It's from menu.c (tools/podzilla/mpdc/menu.c) 05:34 < cdm> :) 05:34 < cdm> the %s means string. 05:34 < cdm> if it's an int you have to use %d. 05:34 < cdm> unlike php, which is an untyped language C is a strongly typed one. 05:35 < jmstacey> isn't %d for decimal numbers? 05:35 < Capso> Lower level. 05:35 < Capso> Jmstacey: Integers. 05:36 < Capso> Technically speaking, I suppose "all" numbers. 05:37 < jmstacey> Have any of you tried to track down the problem with mpdc? 05:38 < jmstacey> sure could use some expertise in fixing a "small" bug :-P 05:38 < Dima202> check this out 05:38 < Dima202> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars 05:40 -!- javyx [n=javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:40 -!- _javyx is now known as javyx 05:40 < cdm> I'm sure everyone has seen that already - pretty cool review. 05:40 < DataGhost> yea 05:40 < DataGhost> my grandma posted that link before my parents were born 05:40 < DataGhost> :P 05:40 < jmstacey> Let me see if I'm understanding this right: static int mm_fill_songs(char * search, int searchTable); 05:41 < jmstacey> is that a function or an array 05:41 < josh_> a function 05:41 < josh_> arrays use [square brackets] 05:42 < jmstacey> My guess is an array named mm_fill_songs that searches searchTable for everythin under the level of songs 05:42 < josh_> and the iPod toolchain thing - no, compiling on the ipod wouldn't be useful, but it includes gdb which might be. 05:42 < jmstacey> josh_: even dynamically linked ones 05:42 < jmstacey> ? 05:42 < josh_> dynamically-allocated are 05:42 < josh_> char *foo; 05:42 < josh_> (well, that's a character array) 05:42 < josh_> e.g. a string 05:43 < josh_> int *foo; would be a dynamically allocated int array 05:43 < josh_> allocated with 05:43 < josh_> foo = malloc (nints * sizeof(int)); 05:43 < josh_> where nints is the number of elements 05:43 < josh_> and no, you can't determine how big an allocation is without keeping track of that somewhere else. 05:44 < jmstacey> josh_: If you had to guess at the mpd spaces problem, what would it be? 05:45 < josh_> idk without looking at the code 05:45 < josh_> which is probably something I'll be doing very soon 05:45 < josh_> considering I plan to convert it to ttk 05:45 < jmstacey> got a free minute? 05:45 < jmstacey> hehe 05:45 < josh_> (*rather soon) 05:45 -!- Capso [i=nanOld4@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:46 < jmstacey> ttk? 05:46 < josh_> my GUI library for the iPod 05:51 -!- Capso [i=nanOld4@adsl-69-226-233-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 05:53 < jmstacey> If you have time... what is this line for? searchstr[strlen(search)] = '\0'; 05:53 < jmstacey> \0 ?? 05:54 < Dima202> no update on color yet? 05:54 < Dima202> any news? 05:56 < josh_> jmstacey: '\0' is the NUL byte (ASCII 0) 05:56 < josh_> that ends every string 05:57 < josh_> but that line's just silly, since strlen() returns the number of bytes before the NUL, so str[strlen(str)] == '\0', so the assignment is pointless. 05:57 < jmstacey> So that line is just appending to the already existing array (whcih I just noticed (brackets)) 05:57 < josh_> no, it's doing exactly nothing 05:57 < jmstacey> So if I remove it, no consequences? 05:58 < jmstacey> does it matter at compile time? 06:01 < jmstacey> I wonder if it's the sort that could be messing it up... 06:02 < josh_> it couldn't be messing it up 06:02 < josh_> and there might be something I can't see, but I'm pretty sure it's pointless. 06:02 < josh_> however, better safe than sorry. keep it. 06:02 < jmstacey> why not?' 06:03 < josh_> if you say 06:03 < jmstacey> the sort is pointless? 06:03 < josh_> x[3] = 0; 06:03 < josh_> and later 06:03 < josh_> x[3] = 0; 06:03 < josh_> that's kind of silly 06:03 < josh_> no, just the one line you pointed out 06:03 < jmstacey> oh 06:04 < Gnub> http://pastebin.com/382378 4g heres the ipods dmesg, not that it matters but its kinda cool 06:06 < josh_> cool 06:06 < Dima202> haha 06:06 < Dima202> nice video on 3g 06:06 < Dima202> http://people.clarkson.edu/~schillzp/iPod%20Kicks%20It%20Up%20A%20Notch%20(H264).mov 06:07 < jmstacey> josh_: If you have a moment. Take a look at lines 357-362 Could that be corrupting the search string? (if it's not freed initially) 06:08 < josh_> which file? 06:08 < jmstacey> menu.c still 06:09 < josh_> if it's not freed, it'll just be re-allocated and you'll "lose" the original allocation --> memory leak, but nothing more serious than that. 06:13 < blindx> i have a question if anyone's active. 06:14 < josh_> fire away 06:14 < Capso> You've wasted keystrokes asking if anyone was active... might as well just ask the question. 06:15 -!- onglipo_ [n=ong@203.101.54.222] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:15 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:15 < blindx> my iPod. 06:16 < blindx> it's got the color screen, but it's not the iPod photo.. 06:16 < blindx> will iboy not run on it? 06:16 < josh_> if iPL runs then the unsupported photo iBoy will run 06:16 * blindx nods. 06:16 < blindx> That sounds logical. 06:17 < blindx> but uh. 06:17 < blindx> I don't know if iPL runs on it.. >_> 06:17 -!- onglipo_ [n=ong@61.246.50.218] has joined #ipodlinux 06:17 -!- Prot is now known as irriadin 06:21 < Zol> josh 06:21 < Zol> ping? 06:21 < blindx> pong! 06:21 < blindx> ;x 06:22 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:22 < Zol> i was trying to ping josh =p 06:22 < blindx> :P 06:22 < josh_> Zol: here 06:23 < Zol> josh: if my ipod freezes whenever i dock it and its sleeping 06:23 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-109-228-101.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:23 < Zol> is that valid enough to send it in? :p 06:24 -!- Gnub [n=Jaymz@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:24 < josh_> haha idk 06:25 < blindx> My computer takes too long to recognize my iPod o.O 06:25 < Zol> hmm 06:25 < Zol> i'll go read over the warranty carefully 06:27 < blindx> I just downloaded the iBoy photo zip.. 06:27 < blindx> i don't know why i just said that.. 06:27 < blindx> o.O 06:27 < jmstacey> josh_: line 753 is "gotos_suck:" Is that really a valid line? 06:28 < josh_> uh-huh 06:28 < josh_> the label name is somewhat of a C joke 06:28 < jmstacey> so it is valid? 06:29 < blindx> oh, i know why i said it.. 06:29 < josh_> jmstacey: yes 06:29 < josh_> look for a line somewhere else that says 'goto gotos_suck;' 06:29 < blindx> the zip just has the "iboy" file 06:29 < blindx> do i still need to "make" this? >_> 06:29 < jmstacey> josh_: found it, I see 06:30 < jmstacey> josh_: when are you planning on taking a look? 06:30 < josh_> jmstacey: sometime in the future 06:31 < blindx> Well I'll just go ahead and move the files onto my iPod, and if it breaks, I'll cry and hate myself. 06:32 < jmstacey> josh_: correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like functions layered upon functions. To generate a list of albums it looks up all songs under it. So if songs showup under albums but are spaces in the song list, it indicates it is a problem with menu.c and I'm looking in the right place? 06:34 * blindx restarts his iPod 06:34 < blindx> That's.. holding menu and select for the five second bit, right? 06:35 < josh_> blindx: yep 06:35 < blindx> well. it didn't do anything special. 06:36 -!- jmstacey [n=jmstacey@66.54.206.209] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:37 < blindx> Why didn't it do anything..? 06:37 * blindx sighs. 06:38 < josh_> blindx: did you... umm... install iPodLinux? 06:38 < blindx> of.. course i did? 06:38 * blindx whistles. 06:38 < josh_> haha oj 06:38 < josh_> *ok 06:38 < blindx> im not a noob or anything 06:38 < josh_> did you copy the iBoy files to the Linux partition (not the Windows one)? 06:38 < josh_> run it from the file browser? 06:39 < josh_> etc. 06:39 < blindx> brb gotta install iPodLinux 06:39 < josh_> haha 06:39 < blindx> about how much space does it take up? 06:39 < josh_> I wasn't trying to be condescending or anything, it was just the first thing to check and your statements hadn't made it clear :P 06:39 < Dima202> :) 06:40 < Dima202> Anyone know of any news on color ipod? 06:40 < blindx> yeah.. im just a noob. 06:40 < blindx> i have a color iPod, but have no news on it 06:40 < Dima202> hmm 06:40 < blindx> other than having carmen electra in my pocket at any given time is, well.. fun? 06:40 < Dima202> ok 06:41 < Dima202> u can't even take irc seriously 06:41 < Dima202> so I would recommend go to ur nearest kitchen take 50grams of vodka and go to bed 06:41 < Dima202> in the morning all will be well 06:42 < blindx> Wait, let me get this straight. I can install linux on my iPod, and run a music program.. to play music on Linux, on my iPod? 06:42 < Dima202> Don't think too hard 06:42 < blindx> :O that's incredible!! 06:42 < Dima202> ;) I am just jokin with ya 06:42 < blindx> portable music! 06:42 < Dima202> Stop acting dumb, its annoying 06:42 < blindx> Sorry :[ 06:43 < hyarion> hej 06:48 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:50 < Dima202> wow, looking at the forum found this 06:50 < Dima202> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1355 06:50 < Dima202> I can't believe how young these kids are 06:52 < josh_> I'm 14... 06:54 < blindx> I only feel a little dumber than I did prior to reading that thread. 07:01 < blindx> I'm installing iPL :O 07:06 < blindx> .... 07:06 < blindx> uh oh 07:07 < blindx> i think it's broken. 07:08 < blindx> hm 07:08 < blindx> hm.. 07:09 < blindx> can.. someone help me? ;x 07:09 < blindx> >_> 07:10 < blindx> no, huh? 07:10 < blindx> er. anyone active? 07:13 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:14 < TrisoBoy> hello 07:14 < blindx> hello. 07:14 < TrisoBoy> there is a chance to have linux on nano ? 07:14 < blindx> Don't ask me, I just fucked up putting it on a color. 07:15 < TrisoBoy> ok =) 07:16 < abi> TrisoBoy: search the forum for nano 07:16 < TrisoBoy> k thx 07:16 < abi> TrisoBoy: you will get a bunch of threads which will tell you what the current status is. 07:18 * blindx shakes his iPod 07:18 < blindx> nothing. 07:22 < blindx> And there's no one active? 07:23 -!- Gnub [n=Jaymz@nr13-216-68-209-83.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:24 < blindx> welcome back Gnub 07:25 < Gnub> had some network probs 07:26 < Gnub> hmm i got so causght up recovering from netfailer i lost my history and open windows now im lost 07:27 < Gnub> dont knnno where to begin 07:29 < blindx> well. you should help me out. 07:29 < Gnub> whats wrong 07:29 < blindx> I attempted to install iPL on my color iPod. 07:29 < Gnub> fubared it? 07:29 < blindx> i reset it, held the rewind key 07:30 < blindx> and the apple logo... 07:30 < blindx> it looks like a VCR with the tracking off. 07:30 < blindx> except horizontal 07:30 < Gnub> framebuffer probs? 07:30 < blindx> notta damned clue. 07:30 < Gnub> sounds like the wrong kernel 07:30 < blindx> i just followed the instructions 07:31 < Gnub> from linux 07:31 < blindx> "4G installer using nightly builds" 07:32 < blindx> [link] http://ipodlinux.org/Windows_4G_Installer_using_Nightly_Builds 07:32 < Gnub> hmm 07:32 < Gnub> windows user as suspected 07:33 * blindx hangs head in shame. 07:33 < Gnub> i have no idea how that installer works 07:33 < Gnub> i did mine from scratch *sorta* 07:34 < blindx> ;[ 07:34 < Gnub> if it froze its basicly a kernel panic 07:34 < Gnub> or F'up 07:35 < blindx> So.. what do I do? 07:35 < Gnub> it takes the ipods normal firmwware and patches it ; repartitions drive and replaces boot with patched kernel (MBR) 07:36 < Gnub> i realy couldnt tell u cause i dont kno what u did or how many times u did it 07:37 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:37 < Gnub> but u can put it in diskmode right? 07:37 < blindx> whassat? 07:37 < blindx> plug it in? 07:37 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:38 < Gnub> why not needs fixin 07:39 -!- irriadin is now known as Rehtona 07:39 < Gnub> u made a backup of the untouched boot loader right? 07:40 < blindx> im not sure? 07:40 < blindx> if it was something you went out of your way to do, no. 07:40 < blindx> >_> 07:40 < Gnub> :P 07:41 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool245-13.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:41 < blindx> uh. 07:41 < blindx> i plugged it in 07:41 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C6890.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:41 < blindx> and.. nothing. 07:41 < Gnub> does any1 else now alottle more about using the windows 4g color? and troubleshooting ? im linux dedicated 07:42 < blindx> oh man. tell me i didn't just fuck myself in the ass with a big linux-pole 07:42 < Gnub> what u need is to nuke that drive or install from a livecd 07:42 < iplbot> Reboot and go to diskmode. 07:42 < iplbot> reboot is flip hold switch on and then back off, then hold these buttons for at least ten seconds: <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from josh_] 07:42 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from josh_] 07:42 < iplbot> Then run the Apple updater, hit Restore. 07:43 < Gnub> iplbot kno's his $#%# 07:43 < blindx> oh phew. 07:43 < blindx> it reset 07:43 < blindx> i tried to reset it before 07:43 < blindx> and it didn't do anything 07:43 < blindx> or maybe it's cause i didn't do the hold switch thing 07:44 < blindx> oh em eff gee 07:44 < blindx> disk mode 07:45 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has joined #iPodLinux 07:46 < Gnub> wow im jealous i want a color ipod now :( have you seen those pictures of doom? 07:46 < blindx> nope. 07:46 < Gnub> mine plays it but its hard to see 07:46 < blindx> but if i can figure out how to put it on my color iPod.. 07:47 < blindx> so can i download the apple updater? 07:47 < blindx> or do i need to install it? 07:51 < blindx> omg. all my music. that's incredible. 07:51 < blindx> :O 07:52 < blindx> is it all randomly named/placed 07:52 < blindx> or is there a method to this madness 07:55 -!- linuxstb__ [n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 07:57 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:04 -!- onglipo_ [n=ong@61.246.50.218] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:04 < Gnub> itunesDB 08:06 < blindx> Pardon? 08:08 < blindx> 48.2 megs for "iPodSetup.exe" 08:08 < blindx> i think this is more than just the software prog 08:08 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #ipodlinux 08:08 < blindx> ima jank it off the other comp with my usb drive, brb 08:12 < blindx> went on the other computer. 08:12 < blindx> 48.2 megs 08:12 < blindx> is just the installer 08:16 -!- will` [n=will@ppp-71-139-4-93.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:19 -!- psycode [n=naeron6@bzq-80-6-126.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:23 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:23 < jasonm> is there anyone around that could offer me some help 08:24 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:24 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:26 < jasonm> i accidently ran the 4th gen installer on my 3rd gen ipod 08:26 < jasonm> is there anything i can do 08:26 < jasonm> please help! 08:27 < blindx> yes 08:27 < blindx> there is 08:27 < jasonm> i mean 08:27 < blindx> to salvage it? yes 08:27 < jasonm> podzilla seems to be running fine 08:27 < blindx> but.. 08:27 < jasonm> i just cant switch to the normal firmware 08:28 < jasonm> how can i salvage? 08:28 < blindx> can't switch to firmware? 08:28 < blindx> not even after resetting? 08:28 < jasonm> id rather format the ipod and install the correct firmware 08:28 < blindx> it should already have it on there. 08:28 < blindx> Are you sure you can't get to it? 08:29 < jasonm> im supposed to click rewind right? 08:30 < blindx> you reboot your iPod, and when you see the apple logo, hold rewind. 08:30 < Gnub> heh what the hecks bad magic mean? wong type of bin? 08:30 < jasonm> ahh 08:30 < jasonm> i was holding it earlier 08:31 < jasonm> it ignores it 08:31 < jasonm> and goes into linux 08:31 < blindx> um 08:31 < blindx> try not holding it. 08:31 < blindx> it depends on how you have it set. 08:31 < jasonm> the installer didnt ask 08:32 < blindx> you may have set it so holding boots to linux? 08:32 < jasonm> oh shit that time it worked! 08:32 < blindx> :)! 08:32 < jasonm> man i gotta start reading before i click/download/unzip/run 08:33 < jasonm> thanks for the help, i was freaking out. 08:35 < blindx> haha i fucked up my install job 08:35 < blindx> onto my color iPod 08:35 < jasonm> and? 08:36 < blindx> and the apple logo 08:36 < blindx> looked like a VCR 08:36 < blindx> with the tracking off 08:36 < blindx> xD 08:36 < jasonm> ouch 08:36 < jasonm> get it fixed 08:36 < blindx> workin on it :P 08:36 < jasonm> ? 08:37 < jasonm> those arent supported yet though.. 08:38 < jasonm> are you one of the developers? 08:38 < blindx> lol no 08:41 < Gnub> if some1 asks you if your a god you say yes! 08:42 < blindx> you're* 08:42 < Gnub> add that to ./fortune 08:42 < blindx> gnub, come to my channel, type /j #2,000 08:42 < Gnub> wtf 08:43 < blindx> fine. 08:43 < blindx> jasonm, come to my channel, type /j #2,000 08:43 < blindx> <_< 08:43 < Synapse> blindx: Stop spamming. 08:44 * blindx shuts up. 08:44 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:44 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:45 < blindx> wb 08:45 < jasonm> ha 08:45 < jasonm> ha 08:45 < jasonm> ha 08:45 < blindx> lol 08:45 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 08:47 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@213.86.218.27] has joined #ipodlinux 08:50 < blindx> SHIT 08:50 < blindx> do i have to restore? 08:52 < blindx> i don't think so. i can still get to the original firmware. 08:52 < blindx> it's just linux that doesn't load. 08:53 < blindx> i hope i don't have to restore 08:53 < blindx> too much music 08:53 < blindx> x.x 08:54 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-121-219.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 < Gnub> wow flite is sooo cool 08:55 < blindx> i don't know what that is 08:55 < blindx> :[ 08:55 < Gnub> blinx u need to get that fixed 08:55 < blindx> i can boot to the original firmware though 08:55 < blindx> so it's only linux that's fucked.. 08:55 < Gnub> http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/flite/download.html 08:55 < blindx> so if i just.. reinstall.. 08:56 < blindx> or. something. 08:56 < Gnub> read the readmes 08:57 < blindx> I'll just keep trying it my way.. 08:57 < blindx> :\ 08:57 < jasonm> well im back in business. 08:58 < blindx> good to hear 08:58 < blindx> i just wanna run linux ;[ 08:58 < blindx> not even 08:58 < blindx> i just wanna play iboy. 08:58 < jasonm> i restored. 08:58 < blindx> ouch 08:58 < jasonm> whats iboy 08:58 < blindx> im afraid to restore 08:58 < jasonm> why 08:58 < blindx> i have music that isn't on my computer 08:58 < jasonm> dont make that mistake 08:59 < blindx> i'd have to go get it from the other computer 08:59 < jasonm> my ipod is only 20gigs 08:59 < blindx> mine's a 60 08:59 < blindx> ;x 08:59 < jasonm> my hard drive is larger than both of these numbers 08:59 < blindx> i've got about a gazillion gigs of hd space 09:00 < jasonm> id just like to have podzilla work 09:00 < jasonm> and play tetris 09:00 < jasonm> i've got about a gazillion gigs of hd space 09:00 < jasonm> hahaha 09:00 < blindx> roughly. 09:00 < blindx> lol. 09:00 < jasonm> "when it comes to hd space my penis is <---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> big 09:00 < jasonm> " 09:01 < blindx> the larger your hard drive, the smaller your penis, it's like cars. 09:01 < jasonm> im fucked 09:01 < blindx> with an insanely large harddrive 09:02 < jasonm> where do you find that graphical windows installer? thats all over the site 09:02 < jasonm> thats not what i used earlier tonight 09:05 < JonasNZ> blindx, that case im in luck i only have an 8gb hd 09:06 < JonasNZ> though i could dust off the old 500mb scsi drive if i really needed too 09:07 < Gnub> <-- 20GB with an #3part of 1+GB 09:08 < Gnub> realy helps when i wanna fill my linux partition with everything maybe ill rm the original stuff and go linux dedicated 09:09 < courtc> < josh_> jmstacey: sometime in the future 09:09 < courtc> heh 09:09 * courtc afk 09:10 < Gnub> any1 kno how to open a textfile with flite cmdlinestyle? 09:10 < blindx> in linux? 09:10 < blindx> :P 09:10 < Gnub> ah ill just try flite (file) 09:10 -!- petzi [n=petzi@cm56-144-175.liwest.at] has joined #ipodlinux 09:11 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-232.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:12 -!- jasonm [n=j@CPE00095b5dca1e-CM001404970bf4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 09:18 < Gnub> heh now i need to make flite mumble a fortune * :) i love that prog* 09:19 < Gnub> t2p !!! 09:21 < blindx> OH IM DUMB 09:21 < blindx> who spends a whole night/morning installing iPL 09:21 < Gnub> <-- more than once 09:21 < blindx> lol. 09:21 < blindx> but a whole night? 09:22 < blindx> it wasn't a breeze for you? :P 09:22 < Gnub> a work in progress 09:22 < blindx> i've now been installing and reinstalling for like 5 hours. 09:22 < Gnub> it'll never be finished 09:22 < Gnub> i dont see why once the bootloaders installed everything is peachy 09:25 -!- petzi [n=petzi@cm56-144-175.liwest.at] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 09:26 < Gnub> heh mine boots an ascii pic of bobafetts face and flite text 2 speach says all you base are belong to us. %$^ 09:27 < blindx> lol. 09:27 < blindx> where you from, gnub? 09:27 < Gnub> silicon valley 09:27 < blindx> lame 09:28 -!- Kurcz_ [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:32 -!- petzi [n=petzi@cm56-144-175.liwest.at] has joined #ipodlinux 09:35 -!- petzi [n=petzi@cm56-144-175.liwest.at] has quit [Client Quit] 09:44 < blindx> so, i installed linux with the 4G installer 09:45 < blindx> except i forgot to change one of the files to "podzilla" 09:45 < blindx> :\ 09:46 < TheAppleMan> blindx just re-install it 09:47 < blindx> did. 09:47 < blindx> just did 09:47 < blindx> still get the folder icon when i boot 09:47 < blindx> :[ 09:48 < TheAppleMan> reset again 09:48 < blindx> still the folder 09:48 < slowcoder> If you just forgot podzilla, you wouldnt get the folder icon 09:48 < blindx> oh, so then what'd i do wrong 09:49 < slowcoder> You'd get "Respawning too fast" or just a command-prompt 09:49 < blindx> i followed the instructions to a tee 09:49 < slowcoder> No idea.. I've never used anything but Kanjinow's 4G installer for mac, and it has worked flawlessly every time 09:50 * blindx goes out and buys a mac 09:50 < blindx> say, could i use a mac emulation program? :o 09:51 < slowcoder> If it suppoerted USB or Firewire, yea.. But afaik, none of them do 09:52 < blindx> :\ 09:52 < slowcoder> Better bet is to search a bit in the Wiki and formus for the problem 10:08 < blindx> i could just. 10:09 < blindx> i wonder if that would work 10:09 < blindx> Hm. 10:09 < blindx> take a hell of a long time, though 10:09 < blindx> 8.03 gigs 10:09 < blindx> hrm. 10:10 < blindx> i don't have enough space on this computer 10:10 < blindx> so lets try another reinstall. 10:10 < blindx> and if not, im going to try on my other computer 10:10 < blindx> not that any of you cares. 10:10 < blindx> care* 10:16 < Gnub> holy floodcicles 10:17 < Gnub> i care 10:17 < Gnub> but not awhole lot i can do for ur system... hell ur on windows 10:19 < Gnub> im having podzilla problems myself 10:19 < Gnub> need to do a custom build 10:21 < blindx> im going to boot into disk mode. 10:22 < blindx> plug it into my computer 10:22 < blindx> back up whole directory 10:22 < blindx> reset to factory settings 10:22 < blindx> and put everything back on it 10:23 < Gnub> ok 10:23 < Gnub> before u put all the music back on 10:23 < Gnub> try to install color 4g 10:23 < Gnub> ipl 10:25 < blindx> yeh 10:25 < blindx> is there a special color 4g install? am i being a moron? 10:28 < blindx> you there? 10:28 < blindx> Note that this will only work with 4G B&W, photo, color (0x00060000) and 1G mini. It will not work with 2G mini, color (0x00060004) and nano. 10:29 * blindx blinks 10:29 < blindx> difference between (0x00060000) and (0x00060004) is? 10:32 < Gnub> 10:32 < Gnub> aru 10:32 < blindx> ? 10:48 < Gnub> dang does that photo have a big screen 10:50 < blindx> i don't have a photo, i just have a color. 10:51 < Gnub> hmm how do i edit podzilla to make use of things in bin 10:55 < blindx> hmm. is there a special installer im supposed to use with the color iPod, or am i using the 4G one? or am i using one compatible with photo? 11:02 < linuxstb> blindx: Which ipod do you have? 0x00060000 or 0x00060004? 11:03 < blindx> i don't know. 11:03 < blindx> how do i find out? 11:04 < linuxstb> Look in the file /iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo on your iPod's hard disk. 11:05 < linuxstb> It's just a plain text file - it will have a line starting boardHwSwInterfaceRev: that contains the revision number. 11:05 < blindx> oh thanks. 11:05 < blindx> hang on... 11:06 < JonasNZ> hmm anyone know what iplbot is powered by? 11:07 < Gnub> love 11:07 < blindx> InterfaceRev: 0x00060004 11:07 < blindx> shit 11:08 < blindx> so the 4g installer is out 11:08 < blindx> and hey, that's the one i used. 11:08 < blindx> :\ 11:08 < linuxstb> ipodlinux is out - it doesn't work on the new color models. 11:08 < hyarion> blindx: some 0x00060004 works anyway 11:08 < blindx> well. mine isn't 11:08 < hyarion> k 11:08 < linuxstb> hyarion: Do you know how many? Have people apart from slowcoder reported success? 11:09 < blindx> i keep getting the folder icon ;[ 11:09 < hyarion> linuxstb: 0 I guess :) 11:09 < hyarion> I heard it from him 11:09 < linuxstb> blindx: That sounds like a different problem. The symptoms of a 0x60004 are that the screen doesn't work when starting Linux, but everything else seems to. 11:10 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:12 < blindx> oh 11:13 < blindx> well i guess my shit is fucked then. im just gonna back up my ipod_control folder 11:13 < blindx> reset 11:13 < blindx> and copy it all back 11:19 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:24 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has quit [] 11:26 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has joined #iPodLinux 11:26 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has quit [Client Quit] 11:48 < blindx> so i was gonna ask a question. 11:49 < blindx> but i won't bother remembering if no one's here. 11:49 < blindx> oh yeah 11:49 < blindx> can i install iPL from a live linux version? 11:49 -!- Scohol [n=scohol@203-173-4-115.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:52 < hyarion> blindx: what do you mean? 11:52 < Scohol> hi guys 11:52 < hyarion> something like Knoppix? 11:52 < blindx> yeh 11:52 < hyarion> Scohol: hello 11:52 < hyarion> sure, why not 11:53 < Scohol> qdot: find anything interesting with the gigabeat firmware? 11:55 < qdot> Scohol: well.. the thing runs linux, that's for sure 11:56 < Scohol> do you know what linux 11:56 < qdot> Scohol: not heavily modified version of one either - I'm now quite eager to send an email to manufacturer saying: Hey! You use GPL code, and you are required to release source code 11:57 < Scohol> ahh, so they could be in trouble 11:57 < Scohol> or they have released it.. but nobody knows 11:58 < qdot> Scohol: well.. noone really enforced GPL in court yet 11:58 < Scohol> ok, well they do say they use it 11:58 < Gnub> slax is better than knoppix 11:59 < Gnub> plus st paty's day is comming 12:02 < blindx> slax > all 12:02 < Scohol> linux kernel, busybox, samba, linnux-wlan, dhcpcd 12:02 < blindx> gotta go 12:02 < blindx> I'll be back sometime. don't know when 12:03 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 12:06 < Scohol> thats what the manual says it uses 12:06 < qdot> Scohol: yea.. I'd be good to have one of these devices handy 12:10 < Scohol> well.. if you buy one.. and say you are able to modify it to play video and other shit.. im sure you could sell it on ebay and make a profit 12:10 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit [No route to host] 12:13 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:13 < qdot> Scohol: yea.. the thing looks more like a revamped ipaq 12:14 < Scohol> thats sweet to hear 12:19 < qdot> it can possibly do all that stuff ipaq can.. Good question is - how the cheap ones (10GB ver, $280) differ from the 40g ones 12:19 < Scohol> also.. the thing about the device is that when you transfer your music files over. you need them to be encrypted with this .SAT format 12:20 < qdot> encrypted? 12:20 < Scohol> 40g use 2.5" drives, 10 gig use 1.8" 12:20 < Scohol> yeah thats what they say.. so when you transfer from the device it won't play on pc 12:21 < Scohol> though, its weird.. its got another connection mode that uses windows media storage, and you can copy the files from the device and play them on your pc 12:23 < Scohol> oh and picture files are converted to some .GBP file and split into 3 files all 150kb in size 12:23 < qdot> can you send me a sample .SAT file (preferably made of this file: http://effecto.mit.edu/audiodump.wav.mp3) ? 12:23 < Scohol> yep 12:23 < qdot> still.. if you put some decent firmware in there, it should play mp3 directly.. just like ipodlinux can 12:24 < Scohol> thats what i have been hoping 12:24 < Scohol> and maybe even support for other codecs 12:25 -!- yoni_ [n=yoni@bzq-80-6-126.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:25 -!- yoni_ is now known as yonil 12:25 < Scohol> was that file orignally a wav file 12:26 < qdot> well.. originally it was ogg, I repacked to mp3 to make it smaller 12:26 < qdot> and it was called opensource.ogg, it's free to redistribute :) (just if someone sues me after that :P ) 12:26 < qdot> and fairly low quality mp3 (32kbit) 12:27 < Scohol> yeah the software don't like it.. won't transfer it 12:27 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has joined #iPodLinux 12:27 < qdot> what? 12:29 < qdot> I'm encoding 128kbit one 12:29 -!- tw1st [i=tw1st40@HSE-Toronto-ppp307074.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 12:29 < Scohol> ok 12:29 < qdot> yep.. download now (the .mp3) 12:30 < Scohol> same file 12:30 < qdot> yes.. it should be larger this time 12:31 < tw1st> I have a 2G mini... is it much more complicated to get ipodlinux up and running on it at this time? 12:31 < Scohol> i converted the first one into wav.. and it transferred aslright 12:32 < qdot> hmm.. will it accept it as .mp3 ? 12:33 < qdot> or what does it make from a file 12:34 < Scohol> second one worked as well 12:34 < qdot> hmm.. ok, can you email the resulting .SAT file? 12:35 -!- qdot is now known as qdot|AFK 12:38 < Scohol> wish i had faster upload 12:47 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 < blindx> So 134 minutes remaining on backing up all my music from my iPod 12:48 < blindx> o.o 12:50 < Scohol> that sucks 12:50 < Scohol> how many gigs 12:51 < blindx> 8.03 12:51 < blindx> i think i wanna go play gauntlet, but im not sure. 12:52 < Gnub> ok get this 12:52 < blindx> okay 12:52 * blindx gets. 12:52 < Gnub> matrix mode that cats the hardrive in realtime and optputs it instead of /dev/random 12:53 < blindx> ;o 12:53 < blindx> no way, really? 12:53 < blindx> «psycode» i have no clue what that means. 12:53 < Gnub> not untill i wrute it unless some1 wants2 help 12:53 < blindx> psycode? 12:53 < blindx> wtf 12:53 < blindx> gay ass invision -.- 12:54 < blindx> so i wanna make a website.. except i have no clue what to make a website about. I, of course, have a personal page, but it's nothing special. 12:54 < Gnub> http://pastebin.com/382580 13:05 * blindx is AFK, on another planet —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 13:12 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:14 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:14 -!- qdot|AFK is now known as qdot 13:15 -!- mgla__ [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #ipodlinux 13:15 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:15 -!- mgla__ is now known as mgla 13:17 < Scohol> ok qbot, finally uploaded and sent 13:35 < tw1st> I followed this guide: http://www.zeropoke.net/forums/topic.php?p=7288 and after i installed it booted but i was left with an all black screen. So i copied over the start file to my root dir, and now it wont even boot linux, it goes into the default apple one regardless if i leave it (linux was default boot) or hold rewind 13:42 < Zol> quite 13:43 < Zol> *quiet 13:45 < Zol> lol 13:45 < Gnub> i could swear it almost sounds better with linux :) 13:45 < Zol> you're supposed to copy the start file with podzilla 13:46 < Zol> or it will just delete your current podzilla 13:46 < Zol> instead of deleting and replacing it with a new one 13:46 < Zol> rm /hp/podzilla 13:46 < Zol> = remove podzilla from the hp directory 13:47 < Zol> and if you have a newer 20 or 60GB color, then podzilla likely wont work on your ipod yet 13:47 < Zol> since you're not talking, i'll assume you're gone 13:47 < Zol> and i'll go too 13:48 < Gnub> id recommend u get a live slax cd and install from linux 13:48 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:49 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:49 < Gnub> any1 think that idea is cool about using the characters dumped from hda1 (for MATRIX screensaver) 13:50 < tw1st> Gnub: is it better to install to a 2G Mini from linux? 13:50 < tw1st> because i DO have a computer running Gentoo downstairs ;) 13:50 < linuxstb> Gnub: It's not good for battery life - unless you are only planning to read a small part of the disk and then repeat it. 13:50 < Gnub> then have a mode swintch 13:51 < Gnub> who cares about battery when it does what it does u feel me? 13:53 < Gnub> and who leaves there eypod on iy anyway if its not plkuged in already? 13:54 < Gnub> copy that ipod1 but your signals breaking up 13:54 < Gnub> over! 14:03 < Scohol> why didn't they call it the earpod 14:05 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 14:07 < tw1st> mmm got the beautiful exclamation point folder image 14:09 -!- will` [n=will@ppp-71-139-4-93.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:15 < guru3> ipodlinux eats battery like kids in a candy store eat candy :( 14:15 < abi> =) 14:15 < Gnub> my was so bad once it had a sadipod 14:15 < nimmer> oh ya 14:15 < Gnub> i realy mest it up 14:15 < nimmer> ipl is useless to run 24/7 14:15 < guru3> if it wasn't for that id use ipodlinux primarily :( 14:16 < guru3> i can live with the glitchy music 14:16 < guru3> but i can't live with only 2 hours of it 14:16 < nimmer> will "never" get better 14:16 < guru3> simplyb buffering the songs 14:16 < guru3> would at least make it 3 hours 14:17 < Gnub> you gotta jump in and help out 14:17 < nimmer> wtf? no. linux kernel is the problem 14:17 < guru3> oh, and spinning up the hd every 3 minutes doesn't use any matter? 14:17 < guru3> and yes Gnub, i am trying to think up a practical way to buffer 14:17 < Gnub> sweet 14:18 < Gnub> kernel? 14:18 < guru3> but id need to read the source, not sure when im gonna have time for that 14:19 * Gnub rushes to did em up 14:19 < Gnub> dig* 14:19 * blindx is back 14:21 < Gnub> yeah i was kinda at that step guru3 checkin out the cvs but i dont kno how to work cvs 14:22 < Gnub> do some kernel hacking 14:22 < guru3> that i know, but ive got school shit and half a dozen other projects going on too 14:22 < guru3> but i would like to help 14:22 < Gnub> aw 14:25 < nimmer> : / ... 14:25 < blindx> i need sleep 14:26 < hyarion> aegray: ping? 14:27 < guru3> i wondered who invented the whole ping a person thing 14:28 < hyarion> guru3: you do know of the command line program 'ping', don't you? 14:28 < slowcoder> The authors of DCC ? 14:28 < nimmer> ;) 14:28 < slowcoder> he said "a person" 14:28 < guru3> hyarion: yes, of course 14:28 < hyarion> well... 14:28 < guru3> but everytime i hear someone say ping? i think of pingpong 14:28 < guru3> i don't know why 14:28 < guru3> but i do 14:28 < hyarion> never mind then. 14:29 < slowcoder> As luck would have it, the DCC response to a PING is "PONG" 14:29 < nimmer> everytime i hear ping i think a lookup ^^ 14:29 < nimmer> taht what it meant to be 14:29 < guru3> true but still, i think of pingpong >< 14:29 < guru3> or 'gnipgnop' as my dad likes to call it 14:29 < slowcoder> Yes, DCC pingpong.. :) 14:29 < nimmer> hrhr 14:29 < nimmer> ya 14:32 < tw1st> is it normal that ipodlinux freezes alot 14:34 < slowcoder> Depends on what you're doing to it.. It freezes quite a bit when I'm mucking about with the IO devices 14:34 < hyarion> slowcoder: tell me about it :'( 14:35 < hyarion> that's why there is no sidplayer for podzilla... 14:35 < slowcoder> Wouldnt blame ipl for that though.. :) 14:35 < blindx> someone play ping pong with me.. 14:35 < blindx> | . 14:35 < hyarion> .| 14:35 < blindx> |· 14:35 < hyarion> .| 14:35 < blindx> |    . 14:35 < hyarion> . 14:35 < blindx> ... 14:36 < hyarion> . | 14:36 < blindx> | .· .. · 14:36 < blindx> WAR 14:36 < guru3> Oo 14:36 < hyarion> arg so many balls! 14:36 < hyarion> .....| 14:36 < guru3> lol 14:36 < hyarion> :::::::| 14:36 < guru3> got a ping pong ball cannon have you? 14:36 < blindx> |.:.·: 14:36 < blindx> xD 14:36 < hyarion> :) 14:39 < Gnub> hmmehstd thr cmd to grab everything from cvs 14:39 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:40 < tw1st> what if it freezes every time i go into a game and then try and exit 14:40 < guru3> from my limited experience i would say that's not normal 14:41 < tw1st> if im using 'unsupported' on my mini 14:41 < guru3> then id say that's normal 14:41 < guru3> or more likely 14:41 < tw1st> lol 14:42 -!- linuxstb [n=linuxstb@213.86.218.27] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:44 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:46 < Gnub> iboy? 14:46 < slowcoder> iGirl 14:47 < guru3> iboy... isn't that the gameboy emulator someone is working on? 14:47 < blindx> yeh 14:47 < Gnub> i bet i can code slower but todays not the time 14:50 < Gnub> whats the best kind of encryption lib i could put on it 14:50 < slowcoder> Anyone would work, but slow 14:51 < slowcoder> Blowfish is pretty fast though 14:53 < Gnub> somethin we could cause if im gonna be storing the deathstar plans on my ipod it has to be somewhat secure 14:54 < slowcoder> pgp then 14:54 < guru3> md5... ;) 14:54 < slowcoder> md5 != encryption md5 = Hash 14:55 < Gnub> heh 14:55 < guru3> details... 14:56 < Gnub> is the kernel why my dialer freezes after 1 beep 14:59 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 14:59 < hyarion> slowcoder: could you do me a favour? 14:59 < hyarion> I need a photo of an iPod photo running doom 15:00 < hyarion> for the wiki 15:01 < guru3> i thought i saw one there? 15:01 < Gnub> theres a couple 15:01 < Gnub> want a picture of mine? greyscale? 15:01 < blindx> :P 15:02 < blindx> if i ever get ipl running on my ipod, i'll throw doom on there and take a pic 15:02 < Gnub> exactly no kares about greyscale doom 15:02 < blindx> speaking of, my music should be backed up by now 15:02 < hyarion> the one on the wiki is nx-"crappy"-doom 15:02 < blindx> brb 15:02 < hyarion> I need one from (super)iDoom 15:03 < hyarion> :) 15:03 < blindx> restoring factory settings 15:04 < blindx> then im going to try another 4g installer. 15:04 < blindx> :\ 15:04 < hyarion> Gnub: which ipod generation is it? 15:04 < Gnub> 4g 15:04 < hyarion> oh 15:04 < blindx> lmao 15:04 < Gnub> 20GB 15:05 < blindx> i wish i didn't have a color iPod :[ 15:05 < blindx> then i could put linux on it ;[ 15:06 < Gnub> we'll ud be pissed jcause doom would suck 15:06 < blindx> lol 15:06 < blindx> can't wait to put in iboy 15:06 < hyarion> Gnub: not the new port :P 15:06 < Gnub> why 15:06 < blindx> brb again 15:07 < guru3> im happy with my 3g 15:07 < hyarion> you will see... 15:07 < guru3> i like it's compatibility with like... everything 15:07 < guru3> more or less 15:07 < hyarion> Gnub: or what do you mean? 15:08 < Gnub> im pissed dialer freezes! 15:08 < Gnub> and no iboy sound 15:08 < Gnub> so im gonna hack the kernel with guru3 and the rest 15:08 < guru3> i like the tone generator 15:09 < guru3> i think that's a pretty nifty idea 15:09 < Gnub> i kno! 15:09 < aegray> lol 15:09 < guru3> i went up to 900hz before i decided my ears were about to bleed 15:09 < Gnub> hehe 15:09 < hyarion> aegray: ok if i pm you? 15:10 < aegray> ya 15:12 < Gnub> wow cool 15:12 < Gnub> http://www.unixprogram.com/smallest.html 15:13 < nusse> s there a way to watch cvs changes? 15:16 < Gnub> http://www.unixprogram.com/images/micro/terminology.gif 15:16 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:17 -!- blind [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:17 -!- blind is now known as blindx 15:45 -!- Dima203 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:52 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:52 -!- Scohol [n=scohol@203-173-4-115.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:55 -!- Dima204 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:55 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:08 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- Dima204 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:09 -!- Dima203 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@person1.constellation.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:13 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@213.221.99.174] has quit [] 16:31 -!- Chahk__ [n=Chahk@person1.constellation.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:31 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:34 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 16:48 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@dslb-084-061-132-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #iPodLinux 16:49 -!- Dima203 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:53 -!- qdot [n=kwant@EFFECTO.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:07 -!- Dima202 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 -!- Dima203 [n=Dima202@ool-18b96b10.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:43 < guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/nametune.mp3 <--- name that tune! 17:47 < hyarion> bork, bork... can't upload stuff to the wiki :( 17:47 < hyarion> wtf why doesn't the images work now?!? 17:47 < aegray> yes you can 17:47 < hyarion> sigh... 17:49 < hyarion> what have I done wrong (ipodlinux.org/Doom)? 17:49 < hyarion> thumbnails doesn't seem to work 17:53 < hyarion> any idea? 17:53 -!- TheAppleMan [n=daniel@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["h3knix linux - #h3knix - http://h3knix.open-element.net"] 17:53 -!- ufoalien [n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ["und weg"] 17:53 < hyarion> they work if you click on them 17:54 -!- nimmer [n=marvin@dslb-084-061-132-129.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 18:05 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 18:05 < hyarion> g'day leachbj 18:05 < leachbj> howdy 18:05 < josh_> hi there 18:10 < leachbj> hey hyarion, how fast is doom nowadays on the photo? 18:12 < hyarion> why not try yourself? :) 18:12 < hyarion> we just realesed it 18:13 < hyarion> would say around 10 to 15fps 18:13 < leachbj> kinda playable then? 18:13 < hyarion> may be lower in large areas 18:13 < hyarion> well you still cant change weapons 18:14 < hyarion> and... if you run and shoot on 1-3g it will reboot after some secs :P 18:14 < hyarion> (menu + play) 18:17 < hyarion> anyone knows why the thumbnails of pictures on the doom wiki page doesn't work? 18:21 -!- TheAppleMan [n=dcordero@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:24 < leachbj> i'll try have a look then... 18:33 -!- DataGhost [n=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:40 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-029-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 -!- Rehtona [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:43 -!- Rehtona [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:46 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AAB95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 19:00 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 -!- wizisi2k [n=wizisi2k@pool-141-153-176-37.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 < wizisi2k> \nickserv help 19:01 < aegray> oh really 19:04 -!- dsh-1 [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:06 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 19:10 -!- ajfjkf [i=HeX@70-96-214-253.dsl1-pixley.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:10 < ajfjkf> Hey, whats up? 19:10 -!- ajfjkf is now known as Blah 19:17 < aegray> Blah 19:17 < wizisi2k> could comeone help me 19:17 < wizisi2k> here's my prob 19:18 < wizisi2k> I have converted an OGM video to avi 19:18 < wizisi2k> BUT when I split the video doesn't work 19:18 < wizisi2k> but before split it does 19:18 < aegray> what are you splitting with? 19:19 -!- coN|xpLicT [n=pinto_20@CPE00095bea8edd-CM000e5c6e3fdc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < Blah> wizisi2k: did you use split? 19:20 < Blah> as in the command split 19:20 < wizisi2k> yes 19:20 < Blah> hm 19:20 < Blah> hold on 19:20 < coN|xpLicT> hey i am a complete nub who wants to help me i have a 15g 3rdgen ipod 19:20 < wizisi2k> I used smart video converter 19:20 < wizisi2k> to split 19:20 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-029-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:20 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-029-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < Blah> hm 19:21 < Blah> does the file play as an avi though? 19:21 < wizisi2k> yes 19:21 < wizisi2k> before split 19:22 < Blah> are you on nix or windows? 19:22 < wizisi2k> windows XP 19:22 < Blah> try splitting it with virtual dub 19:22 < aegray> my guess is its not splitting it right - ie not putting the video info in the second file 19:22 < aegray> rerr whatever 19:22 < Blah> yeah 19:22 < Blah> that was my guess to 19:23 < Blah> hm..heres a q for you 19:23 < Blah> any clue on hardware programming? 19:23 < wizisi2k> I can't tell u that 19:23 < Blah> on how they do it? 19:23 < wizisi2k> but the video is green 19:23 < aegray> on...hardware programming? 19:23 < Blah> hm 19:23 < aegray> ie what? 19:23 < wizisi2k> the audio is there 19:23 < Blah> yeah 19:23 < Blah> like how they got the addresses for video and such 19:23 < Blah> for the ipod 19:23 < aegray> reverse engineering 19:23 < Blah> but like 19:24 < Blah> did they hotwire the chip's 19:24 < Blah> in the ipod 19:24 < Blah> and just have the output go directly to some device 19:24 < Blah> such as a comptuer and just record it? 19:24 < aegray> no 19:24 < Blah> like i can reverse engineer programs on the computer easily 19:24 < aegray> yea - use a disassembler 19:24 < Blah> but i don't get how they get the firmware or the os 19:25 < aegray> with that beeping thing 19:25 < Blah> beeping thing? 19:25 < aegray> `wiki firmware 19:25 < iplbot> Firmware (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Firmware) [9269 bytes] 19:25 < aegray> read that 19:25 -!- maloo [n=malooute@203.59.241.145] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 < Blah> hm like i thought 19:25 < Blah> but what about older stuff 19:25 < Blah> like nes 19:26 < aegray> nintendo? 19:26 < Blah> yeah 19:26 < aegray> yea - you can hotwire stuff 19:26 < aegray> theres a good book on it 19:26 < aegray> on amazon 19:26 < aegray> hold on 19:26 < Blah> like i know there was devices to plug in the cartidge and stuff 19:26 < Blah> hm thanks 19:26 < Blah> and liek the cartidge plsu in to the comptuer and the some program copys it..but like for nix 19:26 < wizisi2k> I prefer the good'ol roms 19:26 < aegray> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764578065/qid=1128453998/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-6988432-8905521?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 19:27 < Blah> yeah 19:27 < Blah> got this book already 19:27 < aegray> no good? 19:27 < Blah> didn't talk about how to rip roms 19:27 < Blah> just tlaked about moddifying stuff physically 19:27 < Blah> well with some wireing 19:27 < Blah> but no asm or anything 19:27 < aegray> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1593270291/ref=pd_sim_b_1/104-6988432-8905521?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance 19:27 < aegray> this is a good overview 19:27 < aegray> nothing too indepth 19:27 < Blah> hmm 19:28 < Blah> well i need indepth stuff heh 19:28 < aegray> that first book i'm positive had some stuff on software 19:28 < aegray> read through again - i'm pretty sure 19:28 < Blah> ok 19:28 < aegray> g2g 19:28 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:28 < Blah> thanks 19:28 < Blah> peace 19:31 < josh_> aegray: ping 19:31 < aegray> PONG 19:31 < leachbj> net 19:31 < aegray> for like 3 more mnins 19:31 < aegray> haha 19:32 < josh_> take a look at http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-api.pdf 19:32 < josh_> (just the first chapter done so far) 19:32 < Blah> hm? 19:32 < josh_> Blah: talking to aegray 19:32 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-158-33-51.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < josh_> courtc_: http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/t/ttk-api.pdf 19:32 < Blah> ah 19:33 -!- coN|xpLicT [n=pinto_20@CPE00095bea8edd-CM000e5c6e3fdc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 19:33 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:35 < wizisi2k> how do I tell virtural dub to split a video 19:35 < Blah> http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/cut_avi_with_virtualdub.cfm 19:35 < Blah> =p 19:40 < wizisi2k> still a problem 19:40 < wizisi2k> with both parts 19:40 < wizisi2k> same as before 19:41 < aegray> whats the problem? Just doesn't play? 19:41 < wizisi2k> no 19:41 < wizisi2k> same as before 19:41 < aegray> whats the problem with the videos? 19:41 < wizisi2k> with BOTH segments 19:41 < wizisi2k> video doesn't play 19:41 < wizisi2k> I am using adv. X video converter 19:42 < wizisi2k> if u know of ANOTHEr program that can convert .ogm and .mkv tell me now 19:43 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-33-171-221.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:44 < maloo> hyarion: u around? 19:44 < maloo> just tried taking a look at the vid of doom 19:45 < maloo> but wont open in quicktime 19:46 < hyarion> maloo: works for me 19:47 < hyarion> (the one from the website) 19:47 < maloo> yeah 19:47 < maloo> has no extension right... but wont opern in qt 19:47 < maloo> arh dont worry 19:48 < maloo> ill just wait till the my screen works and give it a go 19:49 < maloo> thanx anyway... and well done getting it speed up!! 19:49 < hyarion> :) 19:52 -!- TheAppleMan [n=dcordero@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 19:52 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6236.bb.online.no] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 19:52 -!- cohmapapp [n=cohmapap@c-24-5-2-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 19:52 -!- pacroon [n=pacroon@pdpc/supporter/active/pacroon] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 19:52 -!- TheAppleMan [n=dcordero@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:52 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6236.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 19:52 -!- cohmapapp [n=cohmapap@c-24-5-2-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:52 -!- pacroon [n=pacroon@pdpc/supporter/active/pacroon] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 < wizisi2k> well 19:55 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 19:57 -!- maloo [n=malooute@203.59.241.145] has quit [] 19:57 -!- d[r]eadlock [n=marc@lns-vlq-26-nic-82-254-163-174.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 < d[r]eadlock> hello, 19:59 < d[r]eadlock> quick question about CVS version 1.6 tools/ipodloader/tools.c after i loaded it (and boot failed no image after the apple logo) 20:00 < d[r]eadlock> compiler complains about strange comparison (and it's true, it looks strange: inl(xxx) == "yyy") 20:01 -!- cohmapapp [n=cohmapap@c-24-5-2-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 20:01 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6236.bb.online.no] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 20:01 -!- TheAppleMan [n=dcordero@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 20:01 -!- pacroon [n=pacroon@pdpc/supporter/active/pacroon] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 20:02 -!- TheAppleMan [n=dcordero@82-35-16-45.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6236.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 -!- cohmapapp [n=cohmapap@c-24-5-2-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 -!- pacroon [n=pacroon@pdpc/supporter/active/pacroon] has joined #ipodlinux 20:09 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 < hyarion> did anyone ever try to use a CF card instead of a harddrive? 20:18 < hyarion> my iPod is even more dead now :'( 20:23 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:24 < BleuLlama> CF has different pinouts (afaik) than the 1.8" disk in ipods 20:24 < BleuLlama> my 4g ipod drive died on me yesterday 20:24 < leachbj> hyarion, if that is your mini then the lcd is looking a little rough too! 20:24 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #ipodlinux 20:24 < leachbj> (on the doom screen shot) 20:24 < BleuLlama> mini should work with CF. 20:24 < hyarion> no that's my friends :P 20:25 < hyarion> mine is the 2g oldschoolish iPod 20:26 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 20:26 < leachbj> oldie but a goody! 20:26 < BleuLlama> find a broken 1g or 2g and pull the drive from it. ;) 20:26 < hyarion> but hd bady 20:26 * BleuLlama is using his 1g backup ipod now 20:26 < BleuLlama> (22 hour battery is pretty cool though) 20:26 < hyarion> ?!? 20:27 * hyarion is waiting for his iPod nano 20:27 < BleuLlama> i installed a high capacity battery ($40?). 20:27 < BleuLlama> newer battery technology, and it's a touch larger than the old one 20:37 < blindx> So, my iPod is just destined to not have linux onit. 20:37 -!- guru3 [n=guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:37 < blindx> i reset to factory settings, tried the tech.. somthing or other 4g install 20:37 < blindx> and the apple logo just scrolls like a VCR with the tracking off. 20:39 < blindx> but i can still boot to the apple firmware, so it's all good. 20:44 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 < BleuLlama> blindx: where are you? What country? 20:47 * blindx is AFK, on another planet. Gone now for:«7hrs 41mins» (Pager is On, /ctcp blindx Page ) —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 20:48 < blindx> usa 20:48 * blindx is back from on another planet. I was gone for 7hrs 42mins —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 20:48 < BleuLlama> you have an NTSC iPod... you might have grabbed the PAL linux firmware... too many scanlines, so it rolls 20:49 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:49 < blindx> oh man 20:49 < blindx> that actually. makes sense 20:49 < blindx> but you left. 20:49 < leachbj> hmm actually i think he's been standing to close to the microwave again... 20:50 < blindx> where can i get.. ntsc ipl >_> 20:53 -!- Nappers [n=Nappers@xp000690.massey.ac.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 20:54 < leachbj> hey Nappers, thanks for those memory patches. they should be all in cvs now 20:54 < Nappers> no worries :) 20:54 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:56 < hyarion> memory patches? sounds intresting :) 20:56 < hyarion> feel free to tell more about it :P 20:57 < leachbj> memory leak fixes in podzilla 20:57 < hyarion> oh 20:58 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:00 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 -!- DataGhost [i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 < blindx> hey bleu 21:00 < blindx> were you bullshittin me on that pal linux thing, or bein serious? >_> 21:00 < BleuLlama> i do not speak your language 21:01 < BleuLlama> no understand. 21:01 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:01 < blindx> /mode #ipodlinux +b *!*@patsy.cis.rit.edu 21:02 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 < BleuLlama> /mode #ipodliux -b *!*@patsy.cis.rit.edu 21:03 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:03 < blindx> :[ 21:03 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 < BleuLlama> n 21:03 -!- BleuLlama [n=sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:03 < blindx> n... 21:10 -!- blindx [i=blind@c-67-172-37-99.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 21:17 < wizisi2k> I have a prob with the new idoom 21:17 < wizisi2k> it says no default action for this filetype when I put it on my ipod 21:18 < wizisi2k> and it reads only a 5 meg file 21:18 < hyarion> wizisi2k: tried to 'chmod +x' it? 21:19 < wizisi2k> how 21:19 < wizisi2k> I am on windows XP remember that 21:20 < hyarion> do you know how to create a startscript? 21:21 -!- SkuggiG [n=SkuggiG@c-24-3-196-231.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:21 < wizisi2k> no 21:21 < wizisi2k> I am a noob at this kind of programming 21:22 < wizisi2k> I'll try though 21:22 < hyarion> create a file called start.txt 21:23 < hyarion> write: 21:23 < hyarion> chmod +x /path/to/iDoom 21:23 < hyarion> in start.txt 21:23 < wizisi2k> k 21:24 < hyarion> rename it to start (without .txt) 21:24 < wizisi2k> y not just modify a start.txt file I already have 21:24 < hyarion> put it in your ipod's top folder 21:24 < wizisi2k> like this? 21:24 < wizisi2k> chmod +x /path/to/iDoom 21:24 < wizisi2k> exactly? 21:25 < hyarion> chmod +x /hp/iDoom/iDoom 21:25 < wizisi2k> k 21:25 < hyarion> if it's in a folder called iDoom 21:25 < wizisi2k> what if I have 2 copies of it in 2 folders 21:27 < hyarion> create two lines in the start file then 21:27 < hyarion> chmod +x /hp/iDoomfolder1/iDoom 21:27 < hyarion> chmod +x /hp/iDoomfolder2/iDoom 21:28 < wizisi2k> k 21:28 < wizisi2k> no default action for this filetype 21:29 < hyarion> you did extract it right? 21:29 < wizisi2k> yes 21:29 < wizisi2k> I extracted and it's a 4 meg file with no extension 21:29 < hyarion> oooh 21:29 < hyarion> rename that one to iDoom.tar 21:29 < wizisi2k> ok 21:29 < hyarion> and try again 21:30 < wizisi2k> this is from the extracted file 21:30 < wizisi2k> and I can't 21:30 < wizisi2k> invaild or unsupported file format 21:31 < wizisi2k> with winrar it's either unknown or damaged 21:33 < wizisi2k> what can I do? 21:36 -!- Chahk_ [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 21:37 < Blah> hmm..will there be a hack for mini ipod to change the lcd screen to a color'd lcd screen possible? 21:38 < leachbj> no 21:40 * meatmanek wonders about the state of the video player. 21:40 < Blah> hmm 21:40 * josh_ thinks meatmanek should talk to aegray 21:41 * Blah thinks about making a lcd screen hack as soon as he knows more about the damn firmware 21:41 < Blah> =p 21:41 < meatmanek> is aegray around? 21:41 < josh_> /names 21:41 < josh_> and the answer is... yes! 21:41 < meatmanek> well, I'm in here all the time 21:41 < meatmanek> that doesn't mean I'm around. 21:41 < josh_> (though he may be away right now) :P 21:41 < wizisi2k> nvm got it 21:42 < meatmanek> so cool he got audio. 21:42 < josh_> yeah 21:42 < wizisi2k> IMPRESSIVE framerate 21:43 < meatmanek> yeah? 21:44 < meatmanek> how big do the movies get? 21:45 < josh_> reeeally big 21:45 < josh_> 2GB for 30min 21:45 -!- MrPopper [n=frankave@dhcp-77-37.radford.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < meatmanek> that's not horrible 21:45 < meatmanek> I've got about 20 gigs left, iirc 21:46 < MrPopper> I have a quick question, guys... 21:46 < josh_> yes, but FAT32 doesn't support >2GB files 21:46 < josh_> so the max vid length is ~30min for the Photos, unless it's a MacPod. 21:46 < josh_> MrPopper: fire away 21:46 < meatmanek> shady. 21:46 -!- TrisoBoy [i=a@alf94-6-82-227-152-190.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 21:47 < MrPopper> I've heard of so many people complaining that iPL doesn't work on the "new" color iPods, something about the LCD bieng a different type, right? My thing is, my brand new 60GB works fine, and it has the new screen type. Is this a fluke? 21:48 < josh_> MrPopper: works fine? with iPL? 21:48 < MrPopper> yeah. 100%. Video with sound, Doom, everything. 21:48 < josh_> what's your boardHwSwInterfaceRev? 21:48 < josh_> (in /iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo) 21:49 < MrPopper> um...0x60004 21:49 < MrPopper> it that it? 21:49 -!- aboeglin [n=alex@dslb-084-056-029-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:49 < josh_> yeah 21:49 < josh_> that's the new colors 21:49 < josh_> wow. 21:49 < josh_> I think there might be 2 types of lcd screens... 21:49 < MrPopper> i thought that was kind of weird. 21:49 < josh_> this is all much more complex than I thought :P 21:50 < MrPopper> haha. 21:50 < MrPopper> apple is messing with you guys. 21:50 < MrPopper> lol 21:50 < meatmanek> it's really 0x60004.8 :-D 21:50 < MrPopper> hahaha. 21:51 < MrPopper> i thought that podzilla might have been updated, but when i installed just the regular version from the 4g installer, it worked the first time. 21:51 < josh_> wow... 21:51 < MrPopper> floydzilla doesn't though. it gets stuck on something about the "Sash" command in the boot. 21:51 < meatmanek> is podzilla still doing low-level stuff? 21:52 < MrPopper> like? 21:52 < meatmanek> interfacing directly with the screen? 21:52 < MrPopper> yeah, i'd suppose. 21:52 < meatmanek> I suppose it would be 21:52 < MrPopper> no black screen with clicks like all the people who have been iming me lately. 21:52 < josh_> MrPopper: yeah, PZ uses NX does direct IO. 21:52 < MrPopper> just...worked. 21:53 < MrPopper> just thought i'd be informative. 21:53 < MrPopper> :D 21:54 -!- MrPopper [n=frankave@dhcp-77-37.radford.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:03 -!- masquerade [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 -!- jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:14 -!- d[r]eadlock [n=marc@lns-vlq-26-nic-82-254-163-174.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:14 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AAB95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:16 < Blah> hm 22:16 < Blah> Video Input – CCIR compatible video input 22:16 < Blah> enables simple connection of image sensors 22:16 < Blah> • TV Out – CCIR 601/656 8-bit digital video output 22:16 < Blah> to external NTSC/PAL encoder 22:16 < Blah> possible to have tv out and tv in on the ipod? 22:16 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:16 < Blah> erm video in and tv out 22:18 < leachbj> tv out is possible, but it doesnt work yet 22:18 < Blah> ah 22:18 < Blah> hm whats up with the site saying it dosne't work on 4gb ipods 22:19 < Blah> i take it not mini? 22:19 < josh_> 4g. Fourth-generation. Has nothing to do with capacity. 22:19 < josh_> That means, every iPod with a Click Wheel. 22:19 < Blah> ah 22:19 < Blah> misread it =p 22:25 -!- lambency [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:25 -!- Rehtona [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:28 -!- Gabriel [n=gab@20.mbps.with.optimized.org] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 < Blah> hm..any clue how they reverse engineered to get the memory addresses for the video memory location and irq #'s and such? 22:29 < josh_> Blah: arm-elf-objdump 22:29 < Gabriel> Hello... can I just upload my photos to some folder on my ipod photo to view them? 22:29 < josh_> for iPL? sure. 22:29 < slowcoder> Blah: Disassembly of the firmware 22:30 < Blah> hmm 22:30 < Gabriel> ... for normal ipod use since I have an ipod 4th gen and didn't install linux on it yet 22:31 < aegray> Blah: what are you trying to do? 22:31 < aegray> Gabriel: no - you have to use itunes to do it 22:31 < Gabriel> no app is available under linux to do so? 22:31 < aegray> not sure 22:32 < josh_> isn't it ironic... iTunes is used for photos. 22:32 < aegray> don't quit your day job... 22:32 < Blah> aegray: i want to start doing some device programming..figured if i can rollback the os if i skrewed up hey why not? =p (just wnat to start off with a simple os that just pritns text to the screen and such) 22:33 < aegray> you have a lot of the offsets avail to you already 22:33 < aegray> in the kernel code 22:33 < Blah> true but id like to learn how they got them and such =p 22:33 < aegray> disassemble the firmware then and read it out 22:33 < Blah> yeah 22:33 < aegray> you know assembly pretty well? 22:33 < Blah> ja 22:34 < Blah> x86 that is 22:34 < Blah> http://www.brain-hack.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1281 ;) ..although its for nix heh 22:35 < Blah> ..yeah i went overboard with the comments but was meant to help peopel out for who wanted to learn some nix asm 22:36 < Blah> you know if there is an ipod emulator? 22:36 < aegray> nope 22:36 < Blah> hm 22:36 < Blah> are you with the team? 22:36 < slowcoder> I'm probably starting work on one today though, depeding on how busy it is at work.. 22:36 < aegray> i like to pretend to be 22:37 < Blah> ah heh 22:37 < Blah> blah 22:37 < aegray> slowcoder: get it done by tomorrow 22:37 < aegray> or you're fired 22:37 < Blah> heh 22:37 < slowcoder> aegray: I see you've taken South-korean management classes 22:37 < slowcoder> :) 22:38 < slowcoder> Gotta pay a visit to the rainroom. brb 22:38 < aegray> haha 22:41 < Blah> wait the firmware..i thought that was stored on the chip's 22:41 < aegray> its stored encrypted in the firmware image 22:41 < josh_> is it encrypted? 22:42 < aegray> on 4g and above 22:42 < josh_> ah, didn't know that. 22:42 < josh_> wait a second, that can't be 22:42 < aegray> huh? 22:42 < Blah> 2. Delete the firmware partition. o.O aren't they talking about the os 22:42 < josh_> because you can dd a firmware image (inc. flash) to /dev/sda1 and the iPod will flash it and everything 22:42 < josh_> so is the encryption implemented in hardware or something? 22:43 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-232.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:43 < Blah> *boots up laptop* 22:44 < aegray> software 22:44 < aegray> uh - i don't remember the exact process - ask leachbj 22:48 < Zol> leachbj: ping 22:48 < aegray> NO 22:48 < Zol> :o 22:48 < Zol> o.o 22:49 < Zol> that was random? 22:50 < aegray> you're random 22:50 < aegray> ooo snap 22:51 < Zol> lol, no 22:53 -!- iMacOSX [n=HoytHunt@c-67-184-132-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < aegray> yea illinois 22:55 < iMacOSX> hey whats up 22:55 < aegray> not much 22:55 < iMacOSX> what about illinois? 22:55 < aegray> i dunno 22:55 < iMacOSX> lol 22:56 < iMacOSX> has that mencoder been fixed for os x yet? 22:56 < aegray> not to my knowledge 22:56 < iMacOSX> darn 22:56 < aegray> ask in mplayer 22:56 < aegray> #mplayer 22:57 < iMacOSX> is their a way to have linux, and osx on the computer at the same time, and you can switch on boot to which os you want to use? 22:57 < aegray> on powerpc - i have no clue 22:57 < aegray> i'm pretty sure that the problem with mencoder lies in the architecture (powerpc) rather than the os 22:57 < aegray> maybe you could run virtualpc in macos and use mencoder in there? 22:57 < iMacOSX> hmm 22:58 < iMacOSX> ive never used virtualpc 22:58 < iMacOSX> what is it? 22:59 < iMacOSX> oh 22:59 < aegray> i don't use macs, but theres some program to run windows inside mac 22:59 < iMacOSX> is that where u can open windows on amac 22:59 < iMacOSX> yea yea 22:59 < iMacOSX> hmmm couldn't hurt i guess 23:00 < hyarion> iMacOSX: do you have Quicktime Pro? 23:00 < iMacOSX> i do not believe so 23:00 < iMacOSX> but i can get it 23:01 < iMacOSX> why is heir a way to convert video using quicktime pro? 23:01 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:01 < hyarion> I think so yes 23:01 < hyarion> haven't test it though 23:03 < iMacOSX> hmm 23:04 < hyarion> think theres a thread on the forum 23:04 < iMacOSX> alright thanks 23:05 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:05 -!- Gabriel [n=gab@20.mbps.with.optimized.org] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 23:05 -!- Rehtona [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:06 -!- lambency [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:09 -!- iMacOSX [n=HoytHunt@c-67-184-132-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:10 -!- jonathan_xxx|hAw [i=xxx@catv-50627acb.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #ipodlinux 23:13 -!- jonathan_xxx|hAw [i=xxx@catv-50627acb.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 23:22 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit ["Client exiting"] 23:24 -!- lambency [i=lambency@ip70-162-120-70.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:30 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:31 -!- lambency [i=lambency@ip70-162-120-70.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:31 -!- lambency [i=lambency@ip70-162-120-70.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:34 -!- Blah [i=HeX@70-96-214-253.dsl1-pixley.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:39 -!- Rehtona [i=lambency@ip70-162-13-209.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:43 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:53 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #iPodLinux ["Leaving"] 23:53 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:54 -!- kantlivelong [i=user@68.199.184.150] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Wed Oct 05 00:00:00 2005