--- Log opened Tue Sep 27 00:00:02 2005
00:03 < josh_> 12:43 < Kurcz> when i do a float and return it i have a whole bunch of 0's
00:03 < josh_> Kurcz: if you're still there, you need to use a printf() specifier like %.2f
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00:52 < Jolie> help?
00:52 < Jolie> I deleted my podcasts and my music is still freezing.
00:57 < Jolie> in viPodzilla
00:57 < Jolie> latest nightly
00:59 < slushie> hey i have a 20 GB ipod its not a color, got it about 4 months ago
00:59 < slushie> what generation is it?
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01:04 < c0nsumer> has anyone here done any work with the ipod camera connector? i've got one here and i'm attempting to fully understand how it works. thus far all i have is that the +5v on the USB switches to providing +5v when the connector is hooked to an ipod
01:04 < slushie> c0nsumer you can take pictures with your ipod?
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01:04 < c0nsumer> slushie: no, this is the ipod camera connector
01:04 < c0nsumer> BleuLlama: well, hi there. :)
01:04 < slushie> oh
01:04 < BleuLlama> heya c0nsumer
01:04 < BleuLlama> heh
01:05 < c0nsumer> I'm just about to pull this thing apart, I just want to figure out how to do it without marring it
01:09 < c0nsumer> i'll say it here just for the record
01:09 < c0nsumer> this means i need to edit my wiki entry
01:10 < c0nsumer> pin 18 on the dock connector (+3.3v) is stepped up to 5v inside the dock connector in order to power whatever memory card reader
01:11 < c0nsumer> this was obvious by unplugging the dock connector and checking pin 1 (+5v) on the USB connector against pin 18 and seeing the same diminishing voltage
01:11 < wizisi2k> could someone help me out?
01:11 < c0nsumer> wizisi2k: with what?
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01:11 < wizisi2k> what I need to do is to figure out how to make a video play past the 14 min mark
01:11 < wizisi2k> I have noticed when converting that the number next to the trem gets to 0 at the point where I can't watch any more
01:12 < c0nsumer> sorry, i don't run ipod linux. i'm looking for ipod hardware hackers
01:12 < wizisi2k> o
01:12 < wizisi2k> it's the one thing that is really bugging me
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01:17 < c0nsumer> so i'm willing to bet that the belkin adapter gets the power to run the CF adapter from the batteries because they didn't want to drain the ipod
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01:41 < Jolie> wizi :: Need help?
01:41 < Jolie> You've got a 4th Generation, BTW.
01:42 < Jolie> I'm here to help anyone who needs it!
01:42 < Jolie> Test
01:44 < josh_> Jolie: Please don't use too much color. It can get somewhat annoying.
01:44 < wizisi2k> yes
01:44 < josh_> :-)
01:44 < wizisi2k> I do need help
01:44 < Jolie> Yeah, man.
01:45 < wizisi2k> I have been unable to get videos to play on my ipod photo (30 gb.) past the 14 min mark
01:45 < Jolie> using?  Podzilla?
01:45 < wizisi2k> I am running with the latest firmware,podzilla
01:45 < Jolie> with cigwyn *sp*?
01:45 < wizisi2k> yes
01:45 < Jolie> hmm
01:45 < wizisi2k> it says in the converting next to the trem at the point it stops 0 min
01:46 < Jolie> to be honest, i've never tried to run anything past 14 minutes.
01:46 < Jolie> but give me 5 minutes.
01:46 < wizisi2k> k
01:48 < Capso> I fucking hate color on IRC.
01:48 < wizisi2k> same
01:48 < Jolie> Ha.
01:48 < Jolie> ever been on Gamesurge?
01:48 < wizisi2k> no
01:48 < Jolie> it's like the CS Clan IRC capital
01:48 < Capso> #iPodLinux != #mIRC || #Windows || #Script-Kiddie-Morons || #Idiots-G'Alore
01:48 < Jolie> it's like tokyo, for god's sake
01:49 < wizisi2k> I do not play CS
01:49 < Jolie> I used to.
01:49 < Jolie> then I grew up... : /
01:50 < wizisi2k> what am I doing wrong in the conversion of the video
01:50 < wizisi2k> I am using the command listed on the site
01:50 < Jolie> Anyways, I can get it to play past 14, but only to 16 pr 17.
01:50 < Jolie> which site?  the wiki?
01:50 < wizisi2k> yes
01:50 < wizisi2k> http://ipodlinux.org/Video_Player
01:51 < wizisi2k> that link
01:51 < Jolie> well,
01:51 < Jolie> you don't need cygwin, to my knowlege.
01:51 < Jolie> you can just use "run"
01:51 < wizisi2k> command will not fit
01:51 < wizisi2k> I am running xp home
01:52 < wizisi2k> I have to run it in cmd
01:52 < Jolie> yeah?
01:52 < wizisi2k> yes
01:52 < wizisi2k> it will not type out fully in run
01:52 < wizisi2k> and when I do that
01:53 < wizisi2k> it says it's nto a win32 app
01:53 < Jolie> all I can see is bug, because it will jsut freeze up.  after trying 2-3 videos on my 4g grayscale, they ALL stop at 16-17, the photo, ig uess, is 14.
01:54 < Jolie> so, send in a bug report and hope somebody pays attention.
01:54 < wizisi2k> I have tried splitting it into 2 parts to no avail
01:54 < wizisi2k> it plays yes but not in sync
01:54 < Jolie> audio nad video sync?
01:54 < wizisi2k> and splitting, converting, and combining doesn't work
01:54 < wizisi2k> u know what I mean
01:54 < Jolie> yeah
01:55 < wizisi2k> when combined the first part only plays
01:55 < Jolie> what if you split, convert then load onto ipod.
01:55 < wizisi2k> did that
01:55 < Jolie> without combining?
01:55 < wizisi2k> both play 
01:55 < Jolie> all the way through?
01:55 < wizisi2k> well I would think so
01:55 < Jolie> logically.
01:56 < wizisi2k> I never played both through all the way
01:56 < Jolie> what is this, anyways?
01:56 < Jolie> a movie?
01:56 < wizisi2k> no
01:56 < wizisi2k> tv ep
01:56 < wizisi2k> it's only 23 min
01:56 < Jolie> yeah.  a friend of mine put 'Pulp Fiction' on his.
01:56 < wizisi2k> and when converted fully
01:57 < wizisi2k> it's at a file size of 1.5 gb
01:57 < wizisi2k> from 173
01:57 < Jolie> you're on a 30 photo right?
01:57 < wizisi2k> yes
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01:59 < Jolie> i've got to go to work, but i'll look at it when i get back.  i'll have to grab a photo while i'm at work.
01:59 < wizisi2k> k
01:59 < wizisi2k> I've g2g to bed
01:59 < Jolie> i'll talk to you in a few (about 12?) hours when i get bacvk
01:59 < Jolie> later.
01:59 < wizisi2k> I'll be on around 3 PM EST
01:59 < seborrhea> lol bbl <3
01:59 < Jolie> alright
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01:59 < Jolie> seborrhea :: What?
01:59 < seborrhea> afk
02:00 < Jolie> seborrhea :: I don't know... Whatever..
02:00 < seborrhea> stfu
02:00 < Jolie> Wow, man
02:00 < Jolie> a little, defensive?
02:00 < Jolie> later, man
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02:00 < seborrhea> JOLIE!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
02:00 < seborrhea> afk
02:07 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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02:36 < veteran> is website faster now?
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02:42 < macpod> veteran compared to previous days, yes, a bit
02:42 < macpod> were we being attacked? or was the cache stuff not on?
02:42 < veteran> i wasn't notified about it until earlier today
02:43 < veteran> doesn't seem like an attack
02:43 < macpod> there were also quite a few errors
02:43 < veteran> very strange.
02:43 < macpod> sporatic times when it seemed the blog, forums, and wiki were having trouble connecting to the db
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02:51 < jmstacey> Does mpd work with itunesdb yet? If so, how can I set it up to convert it?
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03:15 < speilmitkurt> my shuffle has a unknown usb error
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04:17 < beastmasterT> hey courtc
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05:09 < macpod> The iPod nanos are so small. I feel as if I could almost eat it.
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05:57 < dioz_> what format is the video made in ?
06:15 < qdot> dioz_: video?
06:15 < dioz_> hmm
06:15 < dioz_> for the g4 screen running
06:16 < qdot> dioz_: oh.. this incomplete video player? 
06:17 < qdot> dioz_: it's uncompressed RGB24 avi, with correct resolution etc
06:21 < dioz_> hmm i get an apple.com/support/ipod error
06:21 < dioz_> nice
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06:32 < slowcoder> people
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06:57 < qdot> slowcoder: ?
07:00 < abi> macpod: lol
07:05 < slowcoder> qdot: Just my standard greeting
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09:07 < ferrix> hey, I'd like to do some kernel hacking... which pod should I buy?
09:08 < abi> http://ipodlinux.org/Project_Status
09:11 < ferrix> what's the difference with photo and 4G basically? isn't the hardware almost the same?
09:13 < abi> http://ipodlinux.org/Generations
09:14 < ferrix> kernelwise I mean
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09:17 < linuxstb_> ferrix: The best place to find out the differences between the different ipods is to look at the kernel source.
09:17 < linuxstb_> ipodlinux just has a single source tree, and every difference is dealt with at runtime.
09:18 < linuxstb_> You can browse the CVS repository here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinux/
09:19 < linuxstb_> The main kernel changes are here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinux/linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/
09:20 < ferrix> oh well... maybe I'll order a photo then. 
09:21 < linuxstb_> You may be unlucky and get one of the new unsupported color LCDs.  That happened to me when I bought my 60GB color a couple of weeks ago.
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09:23 < ferrix> and ofcourse an exotic kind of LCD with no prewritten open drivers?
09:25 < linuxstb_> I haven't opened my ipod to look, but I haven't seen any mention of the exact model number of the LCD and controller.  So I don't know if any open documentation or driver already exists.
09:27 < ferrix> so getting a photo from an old stash would be recommendable
09:27 < linuxstb_> But it seems the existing driver partially works - I can draw to the LCD using the existing update routine, I just can't set the "update region".  So all I can do is draw to the region the apple logo appears in...
09:27 < linuxstb_> ferrix: Yes.  Or waiting to see what developments are made with the new LCD.
09:29 < ferrix> or writing the driver myself ;)
09:30 < linuxstb_> ferrix: Please do :)
09:33 < slowcoder> linuxstb_: Still there ? 
09:34 < linuxstb_> Yes.
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09:34 < slowcoder> Are you outputting sensible data, or does it get garbled along the way ? 
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09:35 < linuxstb_> If I try to issue the standard LCD initialisation commands or the LCD "set update region" commands, then that stops me updating the LCD at all. 
09:37 < linuxstb_> If I don't issue LCD commands, but write the LCD data for the already initialised 78x100 pixel region the Apple firmware uses to draw the logo in, then it works perfectly.
09:38 < slowcoder> Interesting
09:38 < slowcoder> Tried the code on a nano ? 
09:39 < linuxstb_> I don't own a nano - but I think leachbj is investigating it.
09:39 < linuxstb_> I've done this by simply modifying the bootloader.
09:39 < slowcoder> I'm leaving for Tokyo tomorrow, so I think I'll pick up a Nano there
09:39 < linuxstb_> Be careful not to scratch it....
09:39 < slowcoder> I know
09:40 < slowcoder> I'll wrap it in ceram-wrap.. :)
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11:40 < charlienail837> hey
11:40 < charlienail837> once i've installed ipod linux, how do i boot into it?
11:40 < slowcoder> hey
11:41 < slowcoder> reboot it (Select + Menu), and then hold down "|<<" while you see the apple-logo
11:42 < charlienail837> does that go for the photo?
11:43 < Kingstone> yes
11:43 < Kingstone> menu + select
11:43 < charlienail837> what does flicking the hold switch while booting do?
11:44 < slowcoder> No clue
11:44 < charlienail837> ok, one last thing, do you know if you need a specific firmware to install linux on the photo?
11:46 < slowcoder> Also, no idea, but I wouldn't think so, as most of the "firmware" is on the HDD, and skipped by Linux
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11:57 < charlienail837> how long does it take to boot linux?
12:02 < slowcoder> 15 secs
12:02 < slowcoder> Or thereabouts
12:05 < charlienail837> ok, i'm copying the root files into the root (g:) then i run the installer and hold << and the screen garbles and nothing boots
12:07 < ferrix> charlienail837: you said you have a photo?
12:07 < ferrix> charlienail837: how new is it?
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12:14 < charlienail837> do you get the tux logo even when not booting into linux?
12:15 < petemc> i do
12:16 < charlienail837> hmm... ok, when i follow the steps, i don't get a tux logo when booting
12:16 < charlienail837> i wonder why that could be
12:16 < Kingstone> i don't get the tux either
12:16 < Kingstone> but linux still works
12:17 < ferrix> charlienail837: how new is your photo?
12:17 < charlienail837> a week old
12:17 < charlienail837> so what determines if you get tux or not?
12:17 < ferrix> charlienail837: they have recently changed the LCD in it
12:17 < charlienail837> i thought it might be a sign of why it's not working
12:17 < charlienail837> are you kidding me?
12:17 < charlienail837> how recently?
12:18 < charlienail837> you mean, there's two types of ipod photo?
12:18 < charlienail837> with different lcds?
12:18 < ferrix> charlienail837: well... linuxstb_ bought a photo two weeks ago and he has problems according to my backlog
12:18 < charlienail837> what makes you think they changed the lcd though?
12:19 < ferrix> nothing actually, just passing information :)
12:19 < charlienail837> well that's a bummer
12:19 < charlienail837> so he couldn't fix it?
12:20 < ferrix> basically the point is that in newer photos there have been lcds that don't respond to the old driver correctly... hence...
12:20 < slowcoder> They did change the displays.  Nothing "better" about one or the other, but they're still working on getting the new display to work properly
12:20 < charlienail837> did they have to go out and get a new ipod?
12:21 < ferrix> you should wait a while with your linux install
12:22 < charlienail837> how long have they been working on it? i haven't seen it mentioned in the cvs
12:22 < ferrix> charlienail837: investigating, nothing to tell in the cvs
12:23 < charlienail837> so where should i check for updates, or just try again in a month?
12:24 < slowcoder> Check for news on the developer blog.. It'll probably turn up there
12:24 < ferrix> charlienail837: a month is a short time in linux ;)
12:26 < charlienail837> maybe the 4g install page should have a note about this
12:26 < slowcoder> Maybe people should take "unsupported" for what it is
12:27 < ferrix> reverse engineering an embedded device is always like this. even though you are not reversing anything you need to prepare for HW changes especially in LCD panels
12:28 < charlienail837> well, i'm not emailing anyone asking for help, but 4g installation works if you follow the instructions
12:29 < ferrix> sure
12:29 < charlienail837> i wonder what they changed
12:30 < charlienail837> who's been working on it?
12:31 < slowcoder> If I could get my way, they can now see when Vsyncs occur
12:31 < ferrix> it's really hard to get a constant flow of LCD panels from one source hence a project was in changed panels three times before the thing was even released
12:31 < slowcoder> linuxstb and leachbj
12:32 < charlienail837> so did they have to deal with changing hardware in the other gens?
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12:33 < charlienail837> i thought vsyncs were only for crts...
12:33 < slowcoder> Anything that updates scanlines really
12:33 < charlienail837> brb
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12:38 < charlienail837> that was weird, itunes insisted i close mirc before installing
12:39 < charlienail837> i hate itunes
12:39 < Synapse> charlienail837: iTunes insisted you close all crap software before you installed it.
12:40 < charlienail837> but it was running on windows
12:40 < charlienail837> what's a good irc client, i don't chat much, mirc comes up first on google
12:41 < Synapse> irssi is my client of choice...
12:41 < Synapse> But it's a bitch to run on windows.
12:41 < rasher> Xchat for windows perhaps
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12:42 < charlienail837> this is so dissapointing, i thought i was going to be clever and have video on my ipod before music...
12:45 < ferrix> having it all right now with open source often fails. 
12:45 < ferrix> but it still can happen
12:47 < charlienail837> alright, i'm gonna muck around with the music now, maybe go back to bed, i can't believe there are people on here so early
12:47 < charlienail837> what time zone are you guys in?
12:47 < ferrix> EEST
12:49 < charlienail837> yeah me too
12:50 < charlienail837> anyway, bye
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12:50 < ferrix> EEST? in Canada? no way
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16:12 < BraveStarr> hello
16:12 < BraveStarr> just one sipmle question
16:13 < BraveStarr> is there any opportunity to get the us firmware for an iPod 4g 40gb?
16:13 < ^0tso> BraveStarr: download iPod updater from apple.com
16:13 < BraveStarr> that is one solution
16:13 < BraveStarr> i bought an us ipod last december
16:14 < BraveStarr> no problems, 
16:14 < BraveStarr> but last month i had to sent my ipod back to apple (because it was damaged)
16:14 < BraveStarr> now i got an european model
16:14 < ^0tso> hokay, so what's the problem?
16:14 < BraveStarr> and the european volume shit doesn't taste very well
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16:15 < BraveStarr> the volume is ablout 35% less than it was from my us modell
16:15 < ^0tso> I thought that was only the french version
16:15 < ^0tso> what a sec
16:15 < ^0tso> I'll find an app that will fix that
16:15 < BraveStarr> now all european version got ths special feature
16:16 < BraveStarr> i tried the apps like eupod, imidi but they don't work
16:16 < ^0tso> http://ballistic.rautermods.net/swec/iMod.zip
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16:19 < BraveStarr> i'll try it again
16:19 < BraveStarr> thx
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16:19 < ^0tso> np
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16:30 < ^0tso> BraveStarr: did it work?
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16:32 < BraveStarr> no 
16:32 < BraveStarr> did not work
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16:39 < BraveStarr> i got to try harder (i know). i'll be back ;-)
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17:04 < v1p3r> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4067&highlight=
17:04 < v1p3r> rofl
17:05 < veteran> Location: Profit
17:06 < v1p3r> its a scam, flights to Profit cost a fortune
17:06 < v1p3r> they end up making money anyway
17:06 < v1p3r> [/badjoke]
17:07 < veteran> i hear a lot of flights to Profit get hijacked
17:07 < veteran> [/worsejoke]
17:07 < v1p3r> youll get stepped on by a corporation if you walk there
17:08 < v1p3r> [/worsererjoke]
17:08  * veteran thinks really har
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18:00 < julien_c> a friend of mine is trying to install linux on his ipod, and he says the apple logo does not show up, it directly goes to the menu, is it normal ?
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18:26 < veteran> julien_c, goes to what menu? ipodlinux's or apple's?
18:33 < julien_c> veteran: apple's, but it's ok now, i have found the key combination to reboot it correctly (i'm noob with ipods as i don't have any)
18:34 < veteran> =) 
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18:45 < SoleKiller> omg
18:45 < wizisi3k> ?
18:45 < SoleKiller> oh oops wrong channle
18:45 < dioz> i flashed my ipod picture and stuff and i got the apple/support/ipod error
18:47 < wizisi3k> ah
18:47 < wizisi3k> try reformatting it
18:47 < wizisi3k> then update to latest software
18:48 < wizisi3k> and then try running the install for linux
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19:05 < dioz> hmm
19:05 < dioz> i flashed it
19:05 < dioz> it appears to have the linux flash running currently
19:05 < dioz> considering the fact the 'Do Not Disconnect' is smaller
19:05 < dioz> and so are the other icons
19:06 < dioz> just it won't boot into a ui
19:06 < dioz> just gives me apple.com/support/ipod error
19:07 < wizisi3k> try this
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19:07 < wizisi3k> reformat ipod and then reinstall linux
19:07 < wizisi3k> then copy the UI over and try booting
19:07 < wizisi3k> but if u have a backup of the firmware just use that and then reinstall
19:12 < macpod> veteran, wanna ban that guy :D
19:13 < veteran> who?
19:14 < macpod> SRisher
19:14 < veteran> done
19:15 < macpod> xellent
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19:40 < dioz> wizisi3k, so are you saying 'restore' my ipod using the ipod updater
19:41 < dioz> then re-try the install ?
19:42 < wizisi3k> yes
19:42 < wizisi3k> or if u made backup of firmware restore that
19:42 < dioz> okay
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19:42 < dioz> restore or reflash the apple firmware ?
19:42 < dioz> cause restore will kill all the data on the drive
19:42 < wizisi3k> reflash
19:43 < dioz> okay i've done what you've suggested a couple times than
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19:43 < dioz> each with the same results
19:43 < wizisi3k> then do a restore
19:43 < wizisi3k> and try it then
19:43 < dioz> muh music !
19:43 < wizisi3k> back it up
19:43 < dioz> okay after the restore there's a windows thing that pops up when you plug it in
19:43 < dioz> uh
19:44 < dioz> syncronize option
19:44 < wizisi3k> what do u mean
19:44 < wizisi3k> I am running XP
19:44 < dioz> nvm
19:44 < wizisi3k> oh u mean where u name the ipd?
19:44 < dioz> can backing up songs be done through itunes ?
19:45 < wizisi3k> no
19:45 < wizisi3k> just copy the folder with em to your hard drive
19:45 < dioz> figured
19:45 < wizisi3k> then restore it after u format
19:46 < dioz> heh usb 2.0 on a duron 750
19:46 < dioz> lovely
19:46 < wizisi3k> I've done USB restore on a AMD 3200+
19:46 < wizisi3k> takes a while
19:46 < wizisi3k> takes even longer to copy the files back
19:47 < dioz> i'd imagine
19:47 < dioz> they're only 5400rpm drives right ?
19:47 < wizisi3k> I dunno
19:47 < wizisi3k> what kind of ipod are u using
19:47 < dioz> 60gb ipod photo
19:47 < wizisi3k> ah
19:47 < wizisi3k> I have a 30 gb
19:48 < dioz> this would be kind of neat if it worked
19:49 < dioz> i mean like
19:49 < dioz> wrong window
19:57 < dioz> okay restored
19:58 < dioz> now copy start, podzilla, metallo.dwi to /
19:58 < dioz> and run the ipod_installer
19:59 < wizisi3k> yes
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19:59 < dioz> the other installer i got
19:59 < dioz> has i think 2 games and a vIP folder
19:59 < dioz> those too ?
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20:00 < dioz> think they're all games
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20:00 < dioz> and rename the latest kernel from the nightly builds to linux.bin
20:01 < dioz> already moved the latest podzilla
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20:03 < dioz> leave the original ipod firmware as the first to boot ?
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20:07 < dioz> uhm
20:07 < dioz> i might have an issue
20:07 < dioz> i can't see shit
20:07 < dioz> but i can hear the click wheel clicking
20:07 < dioz> i think the contrast might be turned all the way up
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20:10 < hyarion> courtc_: /Users/court/ipodlinux/toolchain/gcc-3.4.3/gcc/config/arm/lib1funcs.asm: undefined reference to `mcount'
20:10 < hyarion> (it's from the mac os x version of arm-elf-gcc3.4.3)
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20:14 < dioz> hmm
20:14 < dioz> followed your suggested steps
20:14 < dioz> now all i get is a white screen
20:15 < dioz> i can hear it click as if i'm spinning my thumb around the pad
20:15 < dioz> and it won't connect to usb
20:15 < hyarion> restart it
20:15 < hyarion> menu+action
20:15 < dioz> how ?
20:15 < dioz> action being the middle ?
20:15 < hyarion> ^
20:15 < hyarion> yup
20:15 < dioz> ash
20:15 < dioz> the readme i had said menu + play
20:15 < hyarion> that's for 1-3g ipods
20:16 < hyarion> didn't you read the readme?
20:16 < dioz> ah
20:16 < hyarion> :)
20:16 < dioz> so where can i change the contrast setting ?
20:16 < hyarion> start ipl
20:16 < hyarion> tur the wheel cockwise
20:16 < hyarion> *turn
20:17 < hyarion> 2 clicks..
20:17 < hyarion> press middle
20:17 < dioz> k
20:17 < hyarion> then 4clicks (5 for newer podzillas)
20:17 < dioz> k
20:17 < hyarion> and press action again
20:18 < dioz> hmm
20:18 < dioz> anything else ?
20:19 < hyarion> turn it again to change the contrast
20:21 < dioz> hmm
20:22 < avahcelttil> or get a flashlight or bright lamp
20:22 < dioz> heh
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20:24 < dioz> grrrr
20:24 < trin> hi guys
20:25 < trin> is this channel about linux on ipods or using ipods with linux? ;) not that i ask questions no1 wants to answer 
20:25 < zsr> thats kind of the same thing
20:25 < trin> ok fine
20:26 < zsr> you come in with an attitude and expect help... right
20:26 < trin> sry, didnt want to offend u.. :S
20:27 < zsr> do you have a question?
20:27 < trin> ^
20:27 < zsr> yes, no?
20:27 < trin> my ipod says its full even though i have only one album on it.. :S
20:27 < dioz> what the heck
20:27 < hyarion> trin: what os are you using?
20:27 < zsr> you know why people wont answer it?
20:28 < dioz> all i still see is black or white when i boot into ipl
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20:28 < trin> ubuntu 5.10
20:28 < trin> tell me 
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20:30 < zsr> are you using ipodlinux on your ipod?
20:30 < trin> no
20:30 < trin> formatted with windows
20:30 < zsr> thats why no one will answer you
20:30 < zsr> this is support for ipodlinux
20:30 < trin> is this channel about linux on ipods or using ipods with linux? ;) not that i ask questions no1 wants to answer 
20:30 < trin> zsr thats kind of the same thing
20:30 < trin> thats qhy i asked
20:31 < zsr> well the way you worded it, its sort of the same thing
20:31 < zsr> thats why that threw me off
20:31 < zsr> but no, this is for ipodlinux only
20:31 < trin> well sry to bother u then..
20:31 < trin> ;)
20:31 < zsr> np
20:31 < dioz> is it weird that after a reboot
20:31 < dioz> i can still see the apple
20:32 < dioz> and hear the clicking when i spin ?
20:32 < dioz> but no UI
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20:42 < dioz> hmm
20:42 < dioz> wizisi2k
20:43 < dioz> it worked (i think) but i can't see cause the contrast must be set bad
20:43 < dioz> where can i adjust the contrast ?
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20:47 < virtualball_> What does "make: Nothing to be done for `all'." mean whenever I try to compile the podzilla sources?
20:49 < hyarion> type: make clean
20:49 < virtualball_> ok
20:50 < virtualball_> thanks Hyarion!
20:53 < dioz> hmmm
20:53 < dioz> coach me through the menu again
20:53 < dioz> to where contrast is
20:54 < dioz> i've tried what you said like 123847 times
20:54 < virtualball_> hyarion, whenever I build podzilla, it says theres no libnano-x.a libmwengine.a or libmwfonts.a
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20:58 < hyarion> do you have microwindows?
20:58 < hyarion> nano-x = microwindows
20:59 < hyarion> do you type 'make IPOD=1' or just 'make'?
21:04 < virtualball_> yes I do have microwindows, and I typed make IPOD=1
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21:08 < virtualball_> hyarion, can you send me those libraries?
21:11 < hyarion> virtualball_: have you compiled nano-x?
21:14 < virtualball_>  how shall I do that?
21:15 < virtualball_> its not on the building podzilla page...  i used to be able to build podzilla but now it just stopped
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21:23 < sstormy> hey, guys.  I have some issues with my iPod.. not neccesarily fixable ones, but my disk spins seemingly 100% of the time during playback, and same for when it's plugged in and on, and also sometimes just arbitrarily when I'm not playing music but it is still on.  I was wondering if this is normal behavior, cause dosn't it have 32mb of ram?
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21:50 < jmstacey> courtc or coob! I need to prod one of you, hehe
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22:13 < pacroon> Do you know how I can step through my source code using gdb and vim?
22:31 < wizisi2k> no sorry
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22:37 < hyarion> pacroon: i know how to use gdb without vim if that helps
22:39 < pacroon> hyarion: Well Im basicly just trying to step through my source code - but I think I found something better - since XCode has gdm built in, but thanks
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22:48 < pacroon> hyarion: Is it possible to just do one step at a time, without setting a breakpoint on every line?
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23:02 < rasher> pacroon: next
23:04 < pacroon> :)
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23:20 < hyarion> pacroon: s or step in the console
23:31 < charlienail837> can anyone confirm that the newest photo ipods need a different lcd driver?
23:32 < wizisi2k> I can;t
23:32 < wizisi2k> I run linux fine on mine
23:32 < wizisi2k> only prob is with the music playing and videos
23:33 < charlienail837> when did you get yours?
23:33 < rasher> There seems to be different LCDs in the newer photos
23:33 < rasher> Some "just work", other won't work at all
23:34 < charlienail837> well, is it the older ones that work, and the newer ones that dont?
23:34 < charlienail837> like some people get new ones and they work fine?
23:35 < rasher> Probably the older ones working - some people just get older ones because of them being in stock
23:35 < rasher> Is my guessing
23:36 < charlienail837> i guess there's no way to identify the new lcd panel?
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23:44 < wizisi2k> rasher I got mine in June
23:46 < charlienail837> oh...
23:46 < charlienail837> i got mine a week ago
23:46 < charlienail837> damn it :(
23:49 < wizisi2k> I have a 30 gb, which they don't make anymore
23:51 < charlienail837> first thing i did when i got mine was install linux, screwed it up royally, but i guess it was just a garbled screen and everything else was working
23:51 < wizisi2k> it isn't your firmware
23:51 < wizisi2k> b/c I am using the latest 1
23:52 < charlienail837> yeah, i tried the latest firmware and again after downgrading, same thing both thimes
23:54 < wizisi2k> well the ipod photo I don't think is supported
23:54 < wizisi2k> u using the photo installer?
23:55 < rasher> Garbled screen means a new non-working LCD I believe
23:55 < charlienail837> yeah, it's not 'supported' but the latest builds work
23:55 < rasher> Sounds likely
23:55 < charlienail837> yeah...
23:57 < charlienail837> oh well... it'll just have to wait
23:57 < charlienail837> maybe they'll get a new display driver by the time they figure out some sort of compression for the video
23:58 < rasher> Display driver is probably a lot more likely than compressed video
23:58 < charlienail837> yeah
23:58 < charlienail837> still
23:59 < charlienail837> compression would make it a lot more useful
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