--- Log opened Sun Sep 11 00:00:02 2005 00:00 < josh_> because it can be done? 00:00 < josh_> :P 00:00 < Vanquisher> josh_, SWEET now i can watch movies during study haha! 00:00 * Vanquisher is pumped 00:00 < josh_> haha yeah, if you don't mind the audio getting out of sync a bit, and a lot if you pause/skip 00:01 < Vanquisher> josh_, is it always out of sync or in and out? 00:01 < josh_> it'll stay pretty well in sync if you don't do anything, but pause it or skip something and it'll be pretty far out of sync and stay there. 00:03 < Vanquisher> josh_, nice where can i get the podzilla that has that support? 00:03 < josh_> ~wiki Video Player 00:03 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 00:03 < josh_> ugh 00:03 < josh_> ~wiki Video 00:03 < iplbot> Video Player (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player) [8441 bytes] 00:03 < Vanquisher> :) 00:03 < josh_> actually... 00:03 < josh_> not there. 00:04 < Vanquisher> :) 00:04 < josh_> you have to build podzilla from CVS 00:04 < josh_> and use the latest ekrnel (8-31-05) 00:04 < Vanquisher> :\ 00:04 < josh_> wait... 00:04 < josh_> it looks like nightlies went up last night (9-10-05). use those. 00:05 < josh_> nightly system had been broken since 8-31, looks like they fixed it. 00:07 < Vanquisher> :) 00:07 < joshk> hrm 00:07 < joshk> mpd has to read music data into its own db.. 00:07 * joshk wonders how hard it would be to plug libitunesdb into mpd 00:07 < josh_> already been done 00:07 < josh_> it just doesn't work that well 00:07 < joshk> ah 00:07 < joshk> what's missing? 00:08 * joshk is waiting for /bin/mpd --update-db to finish 00:08 < josh_> lack of bugs 00:08 < joshk> ok what are the bugs ;/ 00:08 < josh_> idk, ask courtc or coob 00:08 -!- corpix [n=corpix@p54BDE4DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 00:08 < josh_> oh, and you'll make mpd a lot faster by changing music_dir to /mnt/iPod_Control/Music instead of /mnt in mpd.conf, assuming your music is all managed by iTunes 00:09 < joshk> my music is all managed by gtkpod 00:09 < josh_> works fine 00:09 < joshk> looks like tha tmight do the trick too 00:12 < joshk> fuck 00:12 < joshk> i ran out of memory 00:12 < joshk> got a fat pagefault 00:12 < aegray> agh - one of you needs to change your name 00:13 < joshk> i have seniority in this channel 00:13 < joshk> kind of 00:13 < aegray> no I DO 00:13 < josh_> haha! gcc worked! 00:13 < joshk> aegray: relative 00:13 < josh_> /> ./h 00:13 < josh_> Hello, world! 00:13 < josh_> /> 00:13 < josh_> w000t! 00:14 < aegray> you're talking about my family now?? 00:14 < joshk> yes 00:14 < joshk> i hate your family 00:14 < joshk> ima kill them 00:14 < joshk> :/ 00:14 < aegray> booooo 00:14 * aegray has kicked joshk from #ipodlinux 00:14 < joshk> they made me do it 00:14 -!- josh_ is now known as josh__ 00:14 < aegray> who? 00:14 -!- josh__ is now known as josh_ 00:14 < joshk> aegray: haven't you seen donnie darko 00:14 < aegray> no 00:15 < joshk> deprived child 00:15 < aegray> Donna Dierko maybe 00:15 < GetInline1> where do i put the kernel for the nitely builds if i want to use the TECHZONE installer? 00:15 < joshk> TECHZONE? 00:15 < aegray> you put it in the techzone chatroom 00:15 < aegray> because we have no clue 00:17 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC8CE0CF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 < virtualball> God! davidc_ r u on a mac? 00:19 < virtualball> ok nvm is anyone on a mac in here? 00:22 < Zol> lol 00:22 < virtualball> ive spent the past 3 HOURS trying to get my qt to work all i wana no is can a "muxed" track be exported with sound? 00:24 < Zol> whats a qt? 00:24 < virtualball> quicktime 00:24 < virtualball> i have pro and v6.5.2 00:25 < joshk> what's this have to do with ipodlinux, ipods, or even linux? 00:25 < virtualball> trying to convert a video thru qt pro for the video player 00:26 < Zol> anyone think they can help me? =( 00:26 < Zol> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27669#27669 00:28 < virtualball> umm 00:28 < virtualball> dont know if i can 00:28 < Vanquisher> aegray, :) 00:28 < Vanquisher> aegray, sound and video :) 00:29 < Vanquisher> Zol, umm dude use mencoder 00:29 < virtualball> Zol, its 2 down and click, then 5 down then click 00:29 < virtualball> Vanquisher, u mean me? 00:30 < virtualball> anyways i wuld use mencoder, but 26 mb on a 56k line, not good :P 00:31 < Zol> virtuaball: i tried that 00:31 < Zol> vanquisher: whats mencoder? 00:32 < virtualball> thats for converting vids lol 00:32 < Vanquisher> virtualball, suck it up, im on dialup 00:32 < Zol> vanquisher: i'm having trouble seeing my ipod display, let alone color videos =p 00:32 < virtualball> lol 00:33 < GetInline1> guys, i keep getting the black screen when podzilla loads on my 4g using the 09-09 build.. I hear no clicks and it doesnt seem like the contrast. any ideas? 00:33 < Zol> black screen = contrast 00:33 < Zol> i believe 00:33 < Zol> blank screen = something mysteriously wrong 00:34 < GetInline1> well i guess i would call in blank then, i know it can go allot darker 00:34 < Zol> lemme guess 00:34 < Zol> a little darker than sleep mode 00:34 < GetInline1> yeah 00:34 < Zol> but way lighter than apple sign background (when rebooting)? 00:34 < virtualball> umm, i remeber a wile back theres a thing while u hold menu for 5 secs and it goes to normal contrast, or does that not work an more? 00:35 < GetInline1> zol: yeah 00:35 < Zol> virtualball: tried holding for 30 secs 00:35 < Zol> also tried editing the podzilla.conf file 00:35 < Zol> and then tried /rm/'ing it so it would make a new one 00:36 < Vanquisher> Zol, mencoder is the prog used to convert videos for the ipod 00:36 < virtualball> ya he doesnt need it 00:36 < Vanquisher> ~Video 00:37 < Vanquisher> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 00:37 < virtualball> Vanquisher, r u on a mac 00:37 < Vanquisher> no 00:37 < virtualball> o ok 00:38 < Zol> vanquisher: thats not my problem now 00:38 < Zol> i cant see iPL 00:38 < Zol> its like podzilla's display driver is shot 00:39 < Zol> all i have is a 100% blank screen 00:39 < Capso> Contrast? 00:39 < Vanquisher> no idea 00:39 < GetInline1> hmmmmmmmm isnt the podzilla file supposed to be a bin file? 00:40 < Capso> GetInline1: Binary after Compilation? Yes. .bin? No. 00:40 < GetInline1> well i notice that when i extract the kernel it shows in windows explorer as a bin file 00:40 < GetInline1> under the details 00:40 < Zol> Capso: tried adjusting contrast 00:40 < GetInline1> podzilla however does not for some reason 00:41 < Capso> ... 00:41 < Zol> as well as deleting the podzilla.conf file 00:41 < Zol> when that didnt work, i replaced it with someone else's 00:41 < Capso> GetInline1: Why in hell are you extracting the Kernel in Windows? 00:41 < Zol> still didnt work =p 00:41 < GetInline1> and it doesnt seem like the kernel is able to load podzilla 00:41 < GetInline1> i kind of skips over it 00:41 < Vanquisher> wiiiiiinnnnnbllooooows 00:41 < Capso> GetInline1: Windows simply won't recognize it... it's not a Windows File... it doesn't matter what Windows shows it as. 00:42 < GetInline1> well poke fun all you want, but i guarantee you this has something to do with it 00:42 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC87B97A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 < virtualball_> sorry 00:42 < Capso> GetInline1: Why in hell are you extracting the Kernel in Windows? 00:42 < virtualball_> haha 00:42 < virtualball_> Zol, it sounds like its a bad kernel to me, but thats me 00:43 < Zol> capso: lemme take care of this one =p 00:43 < Capso> Zol: Take care of what? 00:43 < GetInline1> capso: if im running windows then how the fuck else would i extract it? 00:43 < Zol> getinline:rename the podzilla kernel just to "podzilla" 00:43 < Zol> no extension 00:43 < virtualball_> Capso, do YOU no anything about vidos? 00:44 < GetInline1> no shit, i already did that 00:44 < Zol> rename the .bin file to "linux.bin" 00:44 < virtualball_> Zol, WHAT?!?! 00:44 < Zol> oh ok then i dunno 00:44 < Capso> ... 00:44 < virtualball_> o oj 00:44 < Zol> whaaa? 00:44 < Capso> Heh, now this is just funny. 00:44 < GetInline1> do you want me to screen shot what im talking about? 00:44 < Zol> ok maybe kernel was the wrong word 00:44 < virtualball_> i thout u were saying use the kernel as the podzilla exec 00:44 < GetInline1> no no no 00:44 < ehh> whats gcc? 00:44 < Zol> ohh lol 00:44 < virtualball_> Not the right words "rename the podzilla kernel just to "podzilla"" 00:45 < Capso> GetInline1: Are you going to Compile the Kernel in Windows? 00:45 < Zol> virtuaball: i'm using the latest nightly 00:45 < rage-> Zol, where'd you get your ipod anywho? 00:45 < GetInline1> when i unzip the latest kernel, it has file properties as a "bin file" in windows explorer 00:45 < Capso> Virtualball_: I was going to say... but I wanted the idiocy to continue. 00:45 < Zol> Japan 00:45 < Zol> but i dont think that matters 00:45 < virtualball_> o haha 00:45 < virtualball_> sorry capso 00:45 < GetInline1> when i unzip podzilla which should be a bin file also it doesnt say anything for the properties 00:45 < Capso> GetInline1: Are you going to Compile the Kernel in Windows? 00:45 < GetInline1> i should have to compile because the are already binaries 00:45 < ehh> gcc? 00:45 < Capso> ... 00:45 < GetInline1> sorry should NOT have to compile 00:46 < Capso> Ehh: Google.com -> define: gcc 00:46 < Capso> GetInline1: So, you just want the Kernel's bzImage? 00:46 < rage-> you went to japan? 00:46 < rage-> and bought your ipod? 00:46 < GetInline1> hold on im going to screen shot this 00:46 < Zol> yes =p 00:46 < Zol> that is correct rage 00:46 < Zol> you want a picture of it? 00:46 < Zol> it looks the same 00:46 < Capso> ... 00:46 < Capso> No. 00:47 < Capso> No one cares. It's the same. 00:47 < virtualball_> OK to clear the "hysteria" in hea, gcc is just the tool chain ipod uses to compile, rage, yes he did, Zol, What?!?! lol, and Get In Line1, try using the unsupported windows installer 00:47 < Zol> exactly 00:47 < Zol> virtualball: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27669#27669 00:47 < Capso> Virtualball_: I already cleared up Ehh's question. 00:47 < rage-> I was wondering if you went to the local electronics shop and bought it 00:47 < rage-> or if you got it from freeipods 00:47 < rage-> or what. 00:48 < virtualball_> o sry i was typin while u said it 00:48 < Zol> rage: i got it from the apple store in tokyo 00:48 < Capso> And I'm trying to figure out WTF GetInline1 is trying to do. 00:48 < rage-> o.0 00:48 < rage-> interesting 00:48 < virtualball_> wow 00:48 < Capso> He's unpacking the Kernel... and just wants the bzImage, I suppose. 00:48 < GetInline1> capso, zol i got the screen shot you want me to dcc it? 00:48 < Capso> Hell no. 00:49 < Capso> Put it up or explain. 00:49 < virtualball_> anyways, capso do you have ANY idea if a muxed track in a mpg video to export with sound?! 00:49 < Capso> A picture means a 1000 words -- make the effort to say 1001 if you need to that badly. Heh. 00:49 < GetInline1> put it on a web server? 00:49 < virtualball_> putfile 00:49 < Capso> GetInline1: Sure. 00:49 < virtualball_> Capso so du u no anything about videos? 00:49 < GetInline1> little paranoid? 00:50 < virtualball_> me? 00:50 < Capso> Virtualball_: Are you trying to use the latest video player by Aegray? 00:50 < Capso> Virtualball_: Which Gen? 00:50 < virtualball_> yes, i realize, i dont know what im doing, lol, 4G plain 00:50 < virtualball_> Mac, QT Pro, codecs, new 2bppconv 00:50 < Capso> Have you converted your videos? 00:51 < GetInline1> http://www.blunation.com/incomingpics/look.jpg 00:51 < Capso> Using MPlayer's mencoder? 00:51 < GetInline1> http://www.blunation.com/incomingpics/look.JPG 00:51 < virtualball_> not with sound, when ever i try to export, the sound option is unchecked and grayed out 00:51 < Capso> Erm... you're on a Mac, bud... 00:51 < virtualball_> no i dint use mencoder, it makes ur files 800% bigger 00:52 < Capso> Can't say, I only do core *NIX. 00:52 < virtualball_> ujjuhhuhuhhhhyhyhyhy 00:52 < virtualball_> that was my head hitting my key board 00:52 < Zol> i think ipod only can run uncompressed videos 00:52 < virtualball_> ya it can 00:52 < Zol> and mencoder uncompresses them? :s 00:52 < virtualball_> u can do that wit QT Pro 00:52 < GetInline1> Capso: did you look at that screen shot? 00:53 < Capso> GetInline1: Looking. 00:53 < virtualball_> The requested URL /incomingpics/look.jpg was not found on this server. 00:53 < GetInline1> http://www.blunation.com/incomingpics/look.JPG 00:53 < virtualball_> oh bette 00:53 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:53 < Capso> Getinline1: Alright... 00:53 < Capso> Getinline1: It REA 00:53 < Capso> Getinline1: It REALLY does not matter.* 00:54 < GetInline1> are you sure? everything else shows as a "bin file" 00:54 < Capso> Hrm... if you're really worried... 00:54 < Capso> Open up Notepad... 00:54 < GetInline1> i had podzilla running on an earlier build and im almost certain it was "bin file" 00:54 < Capso> And drag the podzilla File in there. 00:54 < virtualball_> Capso, is macpod/aegray/any1 that nos qt in here? 00:54 < GetInline1> okay... 00:54 < Zol> getinline: podzilla is a binary 00:55 < Capso> GetInline1: And look at its contents. 00:55 < Capso> Zol: We all know. I'm trying to prove. 00:55 < virtualball_> lol 00:55 < Zol> lol 00:55 < Capso> Virtualball: Aegray most likely knows. 00:55 < GetInline1> okay... 00:55 < virtualball_> is he idling or is he in here? Aegray r u here 00:55 < Capso> GetInline1: Do you see a bunch of garbage? 00:55 < Capso> Virtualball_: Think he's working. 00:56 < virtualball_> o ok 00:56 < GetInline1> actually it says: "Capso didnt have to waiste your time and could have just told you it was compiled already" 00:56 < GetInline1> ;-) 00:56 < Capso> ... 00:56 < Capso> No shit. 00:56 < GetInline1> which is obvious 00:56 < Capso> I told you that how long ago? 00:56 < Capso> WTF? 00:56 < Capso> Alright... no more support for you. 00:56 < Capso> You seriously wasted much of my time. 00:57 < Capso> 17:54 < Capso> Getinline1: It REALLY does not matter.* 00:57 < virtualball_> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 00:57 < virtualball_> lol 00:57 < Capso> Virtualball_: WTF? 00:57 < Capso> ... 00:57 < EvilDude> josh_ you here? 00:57 < Capso> Damn, someone ban these people. 00:57 < Capso> EvilDude: Hey. 00:58 < EvilDude> 'lo 00:58 < Capso> EvilDude: A sign of intelligent life! 00:58 < GetInline1> ban me for having an opinion? 00:58 < EvilDude> haha 00:58 < EvilDude> intelligent... me! :P 00:58 < EvilDude> hm how's everything going today 00:58 < virtualball_> sorry i found it funny that he was so confused, and you helped him, but then he realized that you helped him a while ago 00:58 < Capso> GetInline1: No, no... ban you for being an idiot and not listening to me 50 minutes ago. 00:58 < virtualball_> sorry for the massive amounts of ha's 00:58 < virtualball_> lol 00:59 < Zol> lol 01:00 < GetInline1> 50 minutes ago???? 01:00 < GetInline1> are you nuts 01:00 < GetInline1> try 15 01:00 < virtualball_> he helped u and u call him nuts 01:00 < Capso> EvilDude: Intelligent life == Does not use excessive caps and lines to express something easily said in a few characters, un capsed; listens; does not make idiotic comments; listens; knows how to interpret; listens; does not care where the iPod came from. 01:01 < EvilDude> lol 01:01 < josh_> Evildude: here 01:01 < josh_> now 01:01 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC8CE0CF.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:01 < Capso> GetInline1: You do understand, that outside of this Channel, there is no one who will be able to help you. 01:01 < EvilDude> ah cool, so how's the gcc port going 01:01 < Capso> GetInline1: Thus, I suggest you pay some respect to those who try to help you in your most idiotic state before you are 3, 2, 1, banned. 01:01 < qwertykd> cough 01:01 < EvilDude> ah wait i see you updated :D 01:01 < josh_> EvilDude: Done! 01:02 < EvilDude> hehe nice!! :D 01:02 < Capso> Josh_: Ya ported GCC? 01:02 < GetInline1> yes, that is quite evident, i dont know if you understand that i dont give a fuck if your going to give me a hard time 01:02 < josh_> Capso: yep 01:02 < rage-> 'ello josh 01:02 < Capso> Josh_: The ability to now Compile Source Code on an iPod? 01:02 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:02 < josh_> Capso: yes. 01:02 < Capso> :) 01:02 < josh_> veteran: gcc port done 01:02 < josh_> prepare for incoming 40 MB file... 01:02 < EvilDude> hehe that's pretty good 01:03 < EvilDude> i can imagine a future where we can code on our pods :D 01:03 < Capso> Josh_: There are so many people here who need help... we need to do a ~report feature for iplbot. 01:03 < EvilDude> or perhaps some of the utilities can help in dynamic loading of specific parts of podzilla 01:03 < josh_> EvilDude: DL is my next project. 01:03 < EvilDude> hehe nice 01:04 < josh_> Capso: good idea. what would that entail? 01:04 < Capso> Josh_: Such that when an Op is here, they can see who all have been reported and for what reason... and thus, consult and ban the reported people. 01:04 < Capso> Josh_: The amount of times one is reported should also count. 01:04 < josh_> ah, so for breaking the rules and stuff? 01:04 < Capso> Yes... or for simply being annoying/excessive Caps, etc.. 01:05 < josh_> I get it, cool. 01:05 < Capso> Then maybe have an Op login feature... 01:05 < rage-> wow 01:05 < virtualball_> ya, capso, sorry bout that 01:05 < rage-> Capso, ./nick Hitler maybe? 01:05 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 01:05 < virtualball_> lol 01:06 < rage-> josh_, figure anything out about your bootsplash? 01:06 < Capso> Josh_: The Op login feature would be so that an Op can login/logout when they are here/away ... so upon logging in, it would report the amount of reports for that day and in what status they are... if solved, the reports should be removed. 01:06 < GetInline1> capso: thanks dickbag... changed the file extension to .bin and it works now 01:06 < josh_> rage-: not yet, working on it 01:06 < rage-> btw, like you port dcc... :P 01:06 < rage-> gj 01:07 < josh_> Capso: a combination of nick and identified-to-nickserv would work just as well and be significantly easier. 01:07 < rage-> er 01:07 < rage-> gcc* 01:07 < Capso> Rage-: Hitler == Totalitarianism. Me == Advising some features for a Bot to keep the Channel a bit more maintained. 01:07 < rage-> Capso, I've been idling here for a couple weeks 01:07 < Capso> Josh_: However. 01:07 < Capso> Rage-: I've idled here longer. And? 01:07 < rage-> and have only seen one or two incidents that weren't maintained 01:07 < rage-> well 01:08 < rage-> they were maintained 01:08 < rage-> they were banned after the ops got their chuckles out of the situation 01:08 < Capso> Heh. 01:08 < Capso> Yea, okay. 01:08 < Capso> You've seen it all, then. Huh. 01:08 < rage-> heh 01:08 < virtualball_> lol 01:08 < rage-> you're on of THOSE people eh 01:08 < rage-> pulling words straight from my arse? 01:08 < rage-> why do you people always try to start shit. 01:09 < Capso> Josh_: In any case... it's just a suggestion. 01:09 < Capso> Rage-: Ahem... as I remember, you're starting it. 01:09 < rage-> I was simply trying to point out that I don't understand where you're coming from -- and you try creating an argument out of it 01:09 < rage-> trying to demean and belittle me with your egotistical comments 01:09 < GetInline1> rage: this guy is nuts 01:09 < GetInline1> fuck him 01:10 < GetInline1> he didnt aknowledge that my suggestion was right 01:10 < GetInline1> fucker 01:10 < Capso> Didn't know calling someone Hitler is a way of expressing you do not understand where they are coming from. 01:10 < rage-> no, that was a joke 01:10 < GetInline1> god damn nazi 01:10 < rage-> my statement after that is what I'm talkin about. 01:10 < josh_> GetInline1: have you considered that your argument against the argument is making the original argument worse? 01:10 < virtualball_> Guys calm down, Capso is right with getInLine, and rage is pretty right, but dont fight 01:11 < virtualball_> joshk: lol 01:11 < GetInline1> josh: have you considered that didnt make fucking sense? 01:11 < Capso> Virtualball_: Eh, I'd disagree. 01:11 < Capso> Ah well. 01:11 < Capso> Josh_: If you do consider it for iplbot and need any help, I'd be glad. 01:11 < GetInline1> what a pussy 01:11 < virtualball_> Capso: Eh, sorry, personnaly i thought rage was kidding until u started to fight "one of those guys that pull words out of my arse" sounds like a joke 2 me 01:12 < josh_> GetInline1: Let me say it more simply then. By making personal attacks on other people, you're just making the argument worse -- and if that was your goal, you'll be banned pretty quickly around here. 01:12 < Capso> 1) That's rather self-appointed. 2) I wasn't fighting. :) 01:12 < GetInline1> josh: fuck you, thanks for the input fag 01:12 < rage-> ooo for the first time I've actually had to chmod +x something 01:12 < josh_> Capso: Not unless problems in the channel become much more frequent. 01:13 < Capso> More people figure it out == More frequent it gets. 01:13 < rage-> Rage-: I've idled here longer. And? Yea, okay. You've seen it all, then. Huh. 01:14 < rage-> it's just the tone someone carries 01:14 < rage-> (although it's text- you understand) 01:14 < rage-> Capso had no interest in having a conversation 01:14 < rage-> he wanted to push my buttons. 01:14 < rage-> it's not at all respectful, nor helpful 01:14 < virtualball_> Ok... guys its just iPL no need to fight 01:14 < GetInline1> and he is a pussy on top of it 01:14 < rage-> GetInline1, that's not helpful either :O 01:15 < EvilDude> what the hell are you on about GetInline1 ? 01:15 < GetInline1> lol im trying to get this fucker to aknowledge me 01:15 < virtualball_> GetInline1: My GOD ive been trying to ignore you but Shut The Fuck UP! 01:15 * rage- grumbles 01:15 < rage-> videos still freeze my pod up. 01:15 < josh_> rage-: Capso starts sentences with a capital letter as a matter of course. Since most people don't around here, that might make him seem "overly serious" etc. He's not. 01:15 < EvilDude> by insulting others? that aint gonna get you acknowledged in a good way 01:15 < EvilDude> rage-: latest kernel + podzilla? 01:15 < rage-> yea 01:16 < rage-> josh_, it's not the caps ;o 01:16 < GetInline1> virtualball: eat my ass, and mind your own fucking business 01:16 < virtualball_> Capso: I agree with you idea about the bot 01:17 < EvilDude> rage- hm i think your update didnt work too well :S 01:17 < josh_> leachbj: courtc: Luke: davidc__: ping 01:17 < Capso> This is why I suggested it. 01:17 < virtualball_> and Josh I asked capso but hes on a windows, r u on a mac? Or hav I asked you this already? 01:17 < josh_> vb_: linux 01:18 < Capso> Virtualball_: Did I say I was on Windows? 01:18 < Capso> WTF> 01:18 < virtualball_> o, well do you know anything about converting vids? 01:18 < Capso> Virtualball_: I said I was on *NIX. 01:18 < virtualball_> o i thought you were lemme chek 01:18 < Capso> *NIX == UNIX/Linux/etc. 01:18 < josh_> virtualball: you do it the same way as on Linux, except you need the Mac binary of 2bppconv instead of the Linux one. 01:18 < Capso> (BSD included, of course) 01:19 < GetInline1> im out of here you fucking pussies 01:19 < virtualball_> Erm... you're on a Mac, bud... 01:19 < virtualball_> Can't say, I only do core *NIX. 01:19 < rage-> josh_, your theory of why your bootsplash wasn't working for me --- do you think that could be causing aegray's video playing stuff to not work? 01:19 < Capso> Virtualball_: Yep... didn't say I was on Windows. 01:19 < virtualball_> wow it didnt post the other half of my post 01:19 < josh_> rage-: nah, that wouldn't be it... 01:20 < josh_> okay, let's see how long it takes to upload this 44MB file... 01:20 < rage-> hrm 01:20 < rage-> I dunno why this keeps freezing then 01:20 < virtualball_> i thought u ment u were on windows (line 1) but know core *nix (line 2) 01:20 * rage- pokes aegray 01:20 < rage-> are you around? 01:20 -!- nsgn [n=nsgn@cpe-66-69-197-25.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 < nsgn> okieday. for the life of me...i can not find a recent binary of mencoder anywhere on the web that is compiled for powerpc 01:21 < aegray> no 01:21 < nsgn> i much desire to try my own videos with audio 01:21 < Capso> Virtualball_: No... I meant to say I am on Linux and I do not know about Macs. 01:21 < Capso> Virtualball_: Windows never even came up. 01:21 < nsgn> though i have to say, aegray, i tried the one you linked me to...impressively nice audio 01:21 < josh_> nsgn: use fink? 01:21 < virtualball_> Oh sorry for the misunderstanding :) 01:21 < Capso> Aegray: Howdee. 01:21 < aegray> hi 01:21 < nsgn> josh_: fink has mencoder? 01:21 < josh_> should, it's part of mplayer 01:21 < josh_> apt-get install mplayer 01:21 < nsgn> hmm 01:21 < josh_> if that doesn't do it, apt-get install mencoder 01:21 < nsgn> i guess i'll try that 01:21 < josh_> fink has *everything* :P 01:21 < nsgn> time to install fink again w00t 01:22 < virtualball_> aegray, capso says that you ccould help my QT Pro problem, can you export a video with sound? 01:22 < virtualball_> in QT* 01:22 < aegray> i don't know how to use qt 01:22 < aegray> like qt or quicktime 01:22 < aegray> bla 01:22 < virtualball_> quicktime 01:23 < aegray> yea i use mencoder 01:23 * aegray on linux 01:23 < virtualball_> Damn, well OK, thnx anyways 01:23 < aegray> yep 01:23 < aegray> check that one thread 01:23 < nsgn> virtualball_: i would love to be able to do that 01:24 < virtualball_> to do what, nsgn 01:24 < nsgn> qt pro vids with sound for ipod.. 01:24 < virtualball_> do u hav QT Pro? 01:24 < virtualball_> or at least use it? 01:24 < nsgn> yeah 01:25 < virtualball_> and it CANT export sound? 01:25 < virtualball_> to the ipod? 01:25 < EvilDude> why would you want to be able to use QT pro when you can have a free program that encodes in for you? 01:26 < virtualball_> i paid for QT Pro, its the best media remastering tool 01:26 -!- GetInline1 [n=aldfj@pcp09728606pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:26 < virtualball_> nsgn, wait can u export sound? 01:26 < virtualball_> please say yes 01:26 < EvilDude> but, why do you want to use it when you can make a script customizable in any way to encode it using mencoder :S 01:26 < nsgn> because i cant get stupid mencoder for powerpc 01:27 < EvilDude> hahaha ah! 01:27 < Zol> hey 01:27 < EvilDude> i didnt realise that :P 01:27 < aegray> the video player sucks anyways 01:27 < virtualball_> cuz mencoder makes ur files 800 mb if there ovr 4 min 01:27 < nsgn> it exists...but the latest binary i can find is from 2003 01:27 < Zol> anyone know what the oldest version of the ipod 4g color firmware is? 01:27 < josh_> virtualball_: and you think QT won't? 01:27 < nsgn> virtualball_: you arent getting something 01:27 < Zol> oldest meaning the earliest 01:27 < nsgn> thats all the ipod plays video wise 01:27 < josh_> Zol: 1.0, as included in 2005-11-15 01:27 < nsgn> giant files 01:27 < nsgn> no compression 01:27 < josh_> er, 2004-11-15 01:27 < Zol> josh_ : really? it doesnt work on mine 01:27 < nsgn> if you make quicktime make it work for the ipod...ittl be the same 01:28 < Zol> josh: something about a hardware failure 01:28 < josh_> Zol: no idea 01:28 < Zol> *incompatibility 01:28 < Zol> ok 01:28 < virtualball_> my ipod made a 50 mB file into a 18 MB file then played it, :-? 01:28 < aegray> my ipod plays mpeg1 01:28 < Zol> whoa 01:28 < virtualball_> aegray how?!? 01:28 < EvilDude> aegray 01:28 < EvilDude> you serious 01:28 < EvilDude> ? 01:29 * aegray goes back to watching movies 01:29 < EvilDude> haha you're bsing me! 01:29 < virtualball_> NOOO 01:29 < virtualball_> lol 01:29 < virtualball_> lol 01:29 < EvilDude> what hapenned to the sin cos etc! :| 01:29 < virtualball_> math functions? 01:29 < virtualball_> lol 01:30 < EvilDude> yeah but they're hell slow on iPod 01:30 < aegray> lookup tables aren't 01:30 < virtualball_> o lol 01:30 < EvilDude> hm yeah i thought that, but lookup tables actually work decent? 01:30 < virtualball_> aegray: you were kidding right? if so, im that gullible 01:31 * aegray goes back to work 01:31 < Zol> lol 01:31 < nsgn> virtualball_: aegray might or might not be kidding, but you are that gullible 01:31 < nsgn> :-D 01:31 < nimmerchen> ^^my psp plays mp4 01:31 < Zol> aegray, if you ever register for one of those free ipod things 01:31 < Zol> i'll refer you =p 01:32 < virtualball_> if he was kidding I grant him the power to put my rany as dumbass or gullible or sumtin, :-D 01:32 < EvilDude> nimmerchen: my old 3rd gen iPod lasts longer than the PSP does battery wise 01:32 < nimmerchen> =( thats ture 01:32 < EvilDude> its sad 01:32 < EvilDude> That is one of it's biggest flaws 01:32 < EvilDude> that and the damn big screen makes it hard to fit in my pocket 01:33 < EvilDude> which is why iPod playing video is good :) 01:33 < virtualball_> lol 01:33 < nsgn> indeed 01:33 < nimmerchen> <- is still dreaming apple opnes up their ipod firmware 01:34 < EvilDude> haha i'm not 01:34 < nsgn> hahahahahahaha 01:34 < EvilDude> that's why we have iPod Linux :D 01:34 < virtualball_> lol 01:34 < nimmerchen> yeah but ipodlinux also sucks out your batterie power 01:34 < virtualball_> not much 01:34 < nimmerchen> thats why i disabled the musik menu in my build ^ 01:35 < EvilDude> yeah but iPod Linux is catching up to apple's in terms of music (MPD), better than Apple's for everything else, and battery stuff is slowly being worked on 01:35 < EvilDude> um disabling the menu aint gonna make it faster 01:35 < EvilDude> or less battery intensive 01:35 < virtualball_> lol 01:35 < aegray> SLOWLY 01:35 < nimmerchen> just just because i tunr to apple fw when i want to hear musik 01:35 < aegray> you hear musik? 01:35 < aegray> i always hear music 01:35 < aegray> but thats just me 01:35 < EvilDude> haha 01:36 < EvilDude> same :P 01:36 < aegray> damn foreigners 01:36 < EvilDude> aegray: slowly but it is being worke on ;) 01:36 < virtualball_> lol 01:36 < aegray> who's working on it? 01:36 < EvilDude> and if your definition of slow is anything like how you're working on the video player (eg this suddne mpeg1) then apple is screwed :P 01:36 < EvilDude> you are slowly :D 01:36 < virtualball_> waut aegray, were u kiddin bout the mpeg? 01:36 * aegray slowly watches tv 01:36 < Capso> Linus Torvalds is technically a foreigner to English... but damn, he learned it didn't he? 01:36 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:37 < EvilDude> hahahaha 01:37 < Capso> It's no excuse... anyone has the ability. 01:37 < Zol> josh_: might have found problem. Windows XP service pack 2 might be interfering with ipod detection 01:37 < josh_> Zol: hmm 01:37 * virtualball_ is wainting aegray to answer himself to c if he is gullible or trusting 01:39 < virtualball_> hes not gunna answer me is he? 01:40 < EvilDude> nope 01:40 < EvilDude> it's more fun this way ;) 01:40 < virtualball_> aww.... 01:40 < virtualball_> lol 01:40 < nsgn> i'm sure he has some cool stuff cooking. i'll bug him about it after i get mencoder installed. which will be NEVER. *sulks* 01:40 < EvilDude> heh 01:41 < virtualball_> lol 01:41 < EvilDude> i'd like run a virtual machine 01:41 < EvilDude> and run some small linux thing 01:41 < EvilDude> and install mencoder there :D 01:41 < virtualball_> haha 01:41 < nsgn> hmm...not a bad idea 01:41 < nsgn> except encoding would be SLOW 01:41 < virtualball_> SLOW or nothing, hmm... 01:42 < Zol> josh: will try reinstalling after killing service pack 2 01:42 < josh_> cool 01:42 < Zol> then if that doesnt work, will try downgrading firmware 01:42 < Zol> then repeating step 1 01:42 < Zol> bah, stupid uninstall is taking its time 01:43 < EvilDude> no it wouldnt 01:43 < EvilDude> encoding is pretty fast already 01:43 < EvilDude> and virtual things arent actually that slow 01:43 < virtualball_> Ok, aegray, if u r here, were u jokin, or am i just gullible 01:43 < Zol> evildude: werent talking to me, were you? 01:43 < virtualball_> last shot b4 i go insane 01:43 < EvilDude> talking to nsgn 01:43 < Zol> lol 01:44 < Zol> i WANT what aegray has on his ipod 01:44 < nsgn> evildude: hmm 01:44 < EvilDude> haha 01:48 < virtualball_> anyways is it true apple changes hardware to throw off iPL or is that just a lie? 01:48 < Zol> i think they do that to throw off a lot of things 01:48 < EvilDude> i dont think they care actually 01:48 < nimmerchen> aegray: ? 01:48 < virtualball_> o lol 01:49 < aegray> wah? 01:49 < virtualball_> OK last time Aegray, if you tell me, i will do ANYTHING u want i just wanna know :'( 01:49 < aegray> anything huh? 01:50 < virtualball_> yes ANYTHING 01:50 < aegray> I need a 6 page essay - single spaced .25 inch margins - on the influence of the civil war on european economies. Sources must be cited in MLA format. 01:50 < virtualball_> up until now i realize i made a misale 01:50 < nimmerchen> can i make a new_videoplayer_window with the param to play the video for a time i set? 01:51 < aegray> wha? 01:51 < virtualball_> aegray, haha, how about a 2 page essay on knighthood chivalry? 01:52 < aegray> no negotiations 01:52 * virtualball_ just read "The once and future king" 01:52 < nimmerchen> and. i there i way to preload a movie in the ram? that is can play it as a seqenz(play movie gui.avi form time 1:00 to 1:13 for example?) when you chnage the menu. 01:52 < aegray> I also need a vile of your blood and at least 3 of your parents credit card numbers 01:52 < aegray> nimmerchen: no 01:52 < aegray> nimmerchen: write it 01:52 < virtualball_> umm i can get u the numbers but no blood, lol 01:52 < nimmerchen> =( 01:53 < aegray> sweet numbers+expiration date+all the info would be good 01:53 < aegray> plus the essay 01:53 < virtualball_> wait y wuld u need my blood anyways? lol 01:53 < virtualball_> haha 01:53 < Zol> lol 01:54 < virtualball_> aegray seriously cant i just do anything else? Rather then an essay? 01:54 < aegray> you said anything 01:54 < aegray> unless you wanna come here and blow me, thats your option 01:54 * aegray hasn't gotten much in the past week 01:54 < virtualball_> umm... no 01:54 < aegray> hehe 01:55 * virtualball_ can tell aegray hasn't gotten much in the past week 01:55 < aegray> haha 01:55 < virtualball_> hehe 01:55 < virtualball_> any other options? all i wanna no is if im THAT gullible 01:56 < aegray> No other options 01:56 < aegray> find me a way to load a jpeg from mem with libjpeg 01:56 < aegray> then maybe 01:56 < virtualball_> Plzzz.... like saying ur the best or sumtin like that? An easy thing? 01:56 < aegray> i wanna see if libjpeg is faster 01:56 < aegray> yea...NO 01:57 < virtualball_> awww... so hurtful, well ill actually WRTITE the essay if its like 2 pages and a topic i atleast know 01:57 < aegray> no dice 01:58 * aegray scared by the fact that someone willing to write an esssay 01:58 < virtualball_> aw, has any1 else writen the essay 01:58 < Zol> lol 01:58 < nimmerchen> about what? 01:59 < nimmerchen> ...i dont want but about want? 01:59 < nimmerchen> eh about what? 01:59 < nimmerchen> lol 01:59 < virtualball_> huh? 01:59 < virtualball_> aegray my word doesnt go to .25 margins 01:59 < Zol> lmao 01:59 < Zol> oh man.. 02:00 < Zol> that was just so funny 02:00 < aegray> bs 02:00 < aegray> liar! 02:00 < virtualball_> i think ill do it, just give me a few weeks, high schools been hell of hw these past weeks 02:00 < virtualball_> its true 02:01 < virtualball_> how about whenevr i talk to u i call u sir or sumtin 02:01 < Zol> virtuaball: you can adjust the ruler at the top 02:01 * rage- slaps aegray 02:01 < Zol> but yeah 02:01 < Zol> cmonn aegray! 02:01 < virtualball_> o ok 02:01 < Zol> i want what you have :( 02:01 < nsgn> this is amazingly funny 02:01 < aegray> your dead rage- 02:01 < rage-> YOU'RE* 02:01 < josh_> veteram: ping 02:01 < rage-> fool! 02:01 < Zol> LOL 02:01 < aegray> im typing with 1 hand blow me 02:02 < rage-> I choke on small bones :( 02:02 < josh_> veteran: ping 02:02 < josh_> (note the N :-) 02:02 < rage-> josh_, ping 02:02 < rage-> why do you do that josh? :x 02:02 < Zol> lol 02:02 < rage-> you got some script 02:02 < josh_> rage-: I'm uploading a new bootsplash now 02:02 < Zol> my ping is screwed up 02:02 < Zol> josh_: ping 02:02 < josh_> Zol: pong 02:02 < rage-> josh_, tell me now... will it work? 02:02 < josh_> what is it? 02:02 < josh_> rage-: probably not, but it'll generate a log file to at least tell me what the problem is 02:02 < rage-> oh 02:03 < rage-> well ok then! 02:03 < virtualball_> Ok margins set, aegray what size text? 02:03 < josh_> haha 02:04 < josh_> \setlength\oddsidemargin{-0.75in} \setlength\textwidth{8in} 02:04 < josh_> there, 0.25 in margins :P 02:04 < virtualball_> ok but what size font/which font 02:04 < rage-> o.0 02:05 < josh_> virtualball_: \fontfamily{cmr} \fontsize{12} \selectfont 02:05 < josh_> :P 02:06 < rage-> got a link for me yet josh_? 02:06 < josh_> rage-: almost 02:06 < rage-> kk 02:06 < rage-> pm me it or w/e once you're ready 02:06 < virtualball_> WAIT WAIT WAIT, Y WOULD THE CIVIL WAR AFFECT THE EUROBPIAN ECONOMY IF IT ONLY TOOK PLACE IN AMERICEA, HAHA 02:06 < rage-> I need oreos. 02:06 < virtualball_> *EUROPIAN 02:06 < rage-> virtualball_, because pancakes only jump over dog houses on tuesdays. 02:06 < josh_> rage-: http://ipodlinux.org/images/8/89/Bootsplash-1.0.tgz 02:07 < josh_> put on iPod, run, then /msg me the contents of /etc/bootsplash.log 02:07 < virtualball_> I actually typed the title, then im like wait.. no haha 02:07 < virtualball_> is aegray even still here? 02:07 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-210-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:08 < Zol> josh_ restart 02:08 < Zol> i hope this works 02:08 < josh_> yep 02:09 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:09 < virtualball_> God hes not answering me 02:09 < aegray> meh 02:09 < aegray> 12 pt 02:09 < aegray> Times New Roman 02:09 < virtualball_> no wait the topic doesnt make sense! 02:09 < josh_> what about Computer Modern? 02:10 < virtualball_> aegray? 02:10 < aegray> huh? 02:10 < virtualball_> the topic doesnt make sense 02:10 < aegray> yes it does 02:10 < virtualball_> how could the AMERICAN civil war affect EUROPE? 02:10 < rage-> josh_, put it on my ipod??? man, I was gonna put it on my xbox 02:10 < rage-> thx! 02:10 < aegray> think about it 02:10 -!- jaebird [n=jae@208.184.145.65] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:11 < josh_> rage-: haha 02:11 < rage-> ask permission prior to sending a personal message to the user! 02:11 < josh_> rage-: huh? 02:11 -!- nsgn [n=nsgn@cpe-66-69-197-25.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:11 < rage-> (In public) 02:12 < josh_> who was that directed at? 02:12 < rage-> that was in resopnse to the topic comment 02:12 < rage-> virtualball 02:12 < aegray> good one 02:12 < virtualball_> aww man aegray just either A) Let me know B) Change the topic C) let me know what it means D) come up with another thing... God I said I'd write just give me a topic I understand 02:13 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:13 < aegray> its supposed to be tough 02:13 < aegray> think about it - where does america get money from - where does america export to 02:13 < rage-> oh 02:13 < rage-> excuse me 02:13 < rage-> I'm on a completely different train here 02:13 < aegray> just because we're in separate parts of the world doesn't mean we aren't connected 02:13 * rage- minds his p's and q's 02:13 < virtualball_> oh ok 02:14 * aegray gets on a different train 02:14 < rage-> no no no baby 02:14 < rage-> get on 'my' train >;) 02:14 < aegray> i don't swing like that 02:14 < rage-> oh 02:14 < rage-> ok 02:14 < rage-> had to try 02:14 < aegray> at least not on weekdays 02:14 < rage-> oooooooooooo 02:14 < rage-> IT'S SATURDAY! 02:14 < rage-> owned. 02:14 < aegray> i know 02:14 < aegray> I said "at least" 02:15 < virtualball_> Aegray ill do anything any thing else for you 02:15 < rage-> o.0 02:15 < virtualball_> Aegray u did ask me to blow u, lol 02:15 < rage-> yeah aegray... 02:15 < rage-> after that comment, tell me you don't swing that way 02:15 < aegray> you have a sister? 02:15 < virtualball_> me? npe, lol 02:15 < nimmerchen> :O 02:15 < virtualball_> i have a cat, lol 02:15 < aegray> good enough 02:15 < aegray> is it a she or a he? 02:15 < virtualball_> Uhhh 02:15 < virtualball_> he 02:15 < aegray> damn 02:15 < virtualball_> hahaha 02:16 < aegray> i'm not gay 02:16 < virtualball_> surrrreeee 02:16 < josh_> rage-: tested it yet? 02:16 < virtualball_> eny ways, il do god damn it any thing, i thought u wuld have liked the calling u sir idea, lol 02:17 < rage-> not quite yet josh_ 02:17 < rage-> finishing my oreos! 02:17 < josh_> haha cool 02:17 < virtualball_> haha 02:17 < josh_> tell me when you have 02:17 < rage-> will do 02:17 < rage-> 1.5 oreos left 02:17 < virtualball_> haha 02:17 < rage-> (one's in the process of going down) 02:17 < virtualball_> lol 02:18 < rage-> .5 02:18 < rage-> and we're clear! 02:18 * rage- goes and tests 02:18 < virtualball_> so aegray plz go ezy, i said ill write it, just give me an easier topic 02:18 < aegray> i have to discuss it with veteran than 02:18 < aegray> veteran: ping 02:19 < virtualball_> aww... ok then how bout an easier topic and calling u sir? eh? 02:19 < virtualball_> eh? 02:19 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 < josh_> rage-: 95% [===========================> ] 2.5 0.5 Oreo/s 02:19 < virtualball_> lol 02:19 < rage-> lolol 02:19 < virtualball_> is that a loading bar for rage's oreos? 02:19 < rage-> ah hell 02:19 < josh_> aegray: if you see him, tell him the Wiki wouldn't accept my 40MB file. 02:19 < rage-> I forgot to edit my rc 02:19 < josh_> vb_: yes 02:19 < josh_> :P 02:20 < virtualball_> haha 02:20 < virtualball_> ya no what aegray, i hardly remeber y im getting this essay haha 02:21 < virtualball_> o ya the mpeg1 thing 02:21 < virtualball_> lol 02:21 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:22 * rage- awaits the dying of his ipod 02:22 < rage-> oh 02:22 < rage-> oh 02:22 < rage-> oh 02:22 < rage-> oh 02:22 < rage-> josh 02:22 < rage-> you did it ;) 02:23 < virtualball_> what he do? 02:23 < rage-> perma-fucked my ipod. 02:23 < rage-> no no no no I kid! 02:23 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:23 * rage- pokes josh_ 02:23 < rage-> it's no fun making fun of you when you're not paying attention josh... 02:23 < rage-> stick with me here. 02:24 < virtualball_> ya w/e 02:24 < virtualball_> i have my first paragraph done (:-) 02:24 < rage-> ya w/e 02:24 < virtualball_> lol 02:25 * virtualball_ pokes rage- 02:26 < rage-> keep 02:26 < rage-> your 02:26 < rage-> GRUBBY FINGERS OFF ME 02:26 < virtualball_> keep? 02:26 < virtualball_> o lol 02:26 < virtualball_> Im not fat, lol 02:26 < rage-> eh 02:26 < rage-> gurgle 02:26 < rage-> didn't say "chubby" 02:26 < rage-> I said "grubby" 02:26 < rage-> :P 02:26 < virtualball_> lol :-P 02:27 < virtualball_> so is aegray evr gunna repeal my essay? 02:28 -!- nimmerchen [n=nimmerme@dsl-084-061-140-170.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 02:33 -!- path_ [n=path@user-0ce2gdm.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 02:33 < josh_> rage-: there? 02:33 < josh_> sorry, was walking dog 02:34 < virtualball_> lol 02:41 < josh_> rage-: ping 02:43 < virtualball_> Aegray 02:43 < virtualball_> The Civil WarÔs Affect on the Economy in Europe 02:43 < virtualball_> By Brandon Smith 02:43 < virtualball_> The Civil war was a tremendous hurt in the civilian life in America and in Europe. Though fighting for freedom and right, it caused many years of dept and caused many people to go into poverty. Even though Europe did not fight in the war there economy was hurt equally/I not more then AmericaÕs. 02:43 < virtualball_> The war had a direct affect on the United States'relation and the relations that were most important were those with the two dominant, England and France. Each country was a monarchy, and a monarchy does not like to have a Rebellion class succed in over-throwing a country. Yet the war had not progressed very far before it was clear that the ruling classes in each of these two countries sympathized strongly with the Confederacy. So strongly 02:43 < aegray> stop 02:43 < virtualball_> lol 02:43 < rage-> wow 02:43 < rage-> you got him writing your papers? 02:43 < rage-> wtf. 02:44 < josh_> rage-: tested it? 02:44 < rage-> yeah 02:44 < aegray> no pasting 02:44 < aegray> once your done - email it to me 02:44 < virtualball_> did i earn it yet, or should i finish the other 5.5 pages, lol 02:44 < josh_> rage-: /msg me the contents of /etc/bootsplash.log on the ipod 02:44 < Vanquisher> aegray, does the video player still need raw avi 02:44 < aegray> ya 02:44 < josh_> Vanq: yep 02:44 < Vanquisher> damn 02:45 < virtualball_> aegray cant i stop yet? 02:45 < aegray> do you have 10 pages? 02:45 < rage-> josh_, red: 11 # 5, green: 5#6, blue: 0 # 5 02:45 < virtualball_> 10?!?!?!?!?!?! 02:45 < aegray> haha 02:45 < aegray> however many i told you 02:45 < aegray> and don't lie 02:45 < aegray> i can scroll up 02:45 < virtualball_> ur kidding right? 02:45 < virtualball_> u meen 6 02:45 < aegray> sure 02:45 < josh_> rage-: what about the next line of that 02:45 < josh_> it should look like 02:45 < josh_> Should be: 02:46 < josh_> BPP: x Red: x y Grn: x y etc. 02:46 < josh_> Got: 02:46 < josh_> BPP: x Red: x y Grn: x y etc. 02:46 < virtualball_> once again cant we make it 2 and i can call u sir? its the only thing that I think will please you besides 6 pages 02:46 < ze> aegray: i'd say you'll want to edit that after you get it... spell-check and etc :p 02:46 < rage-> no 02:46 < rage-> that's all josh 02:46 < josh_> please /msg me the complete contents 02:46 < rage-> just bpp and color stuff 02:47 < rage-> my ipod aint hooked up to this pc 02:47 < rage-> I'm telling you.. there's nothing else 02:47 < rage-> perhaps because it didn't freeze ;p 02:47 < virtualball_> so aegray what do ya say? 02:47 < josh_> rage-: didn't freeze? 02:47 < rage-> no 02:47 < aegray> agh! 02:47 < rage-> it loaded 02:47 < josh_> how did the screen change as it loaded? 02:47 < rage-> in color 02:47 < aegray> i need veterans help 02:47 < rage-> with backlight 02:47 < josh_> it worked?! 02:47 < rage-> and a progress bar 02:47 < rage-> yes :) 02:47 < virtualball_> aegray: for what? 02:47 < rage-> but there might be a few little bugs still 02:47 < josh_> hahahahahaha! 02:47 < josh_> like what? 02:47 < aegray> he's the essay king 02:48 < virtualball_> rage; you have a progress bar? 02:48 < rage-> well the progress bar is only like 5 pixels tall 02:48 < Capso> Heh. 02:48 < rage-> I don't think that's how it's supposed to be 02:48 < Capso> Aegray: Writing essay? 02:48 < rage-> also, it doesn't tell what it's loading 02:48 < josh_> rage-: it's supposed to be more like 10 02:48 < rage-> with the icons ou made 02:48 < virtualball_> Capso: I am! 02:48 < rage-> you* 02:48 < josh_> rage-: did you put the : lines in /etc/rc? 02:48 < Capso> Heh. 02:48 < Capso> Virtualball_: Upon what topic? 02:48 < rage-> oh no 02:48 < rage-> I wasn't aware I had to 02:48 < josh_> that'd do it 02:48 < virtualball_> im actually writing it, i have 3 paragraphs done 02:48 < rage-> your wiki isn't clear ;p 02:48 < josh_> you have to, if you want to use the icons 02:48 < rage-> ok 02:49 < josh_> okay, I'll make that clearer 02:49 < rage-> I'll have to edit that 02:49 < Capso> Virtualball_: Upon what topic? 02:49 < Vanquisher> virtualball_, on what are you writing? 02:49 < josh_> also, does it show the current command that's running? 02:49 < rage-> does your wiki page say what ones are default? 02:49 < virtualball_> The Civil WarÔs Affect on the Economy in Europe 02:49 < virtualball_> lol 02:49 < Vanquisher> easy topic 02:49 < virtualball_> Ya 6 pages worth at .25" margins 02:50 < virtualball_> lol 02:50 < josh_> rage-: if it doesn't, the icons are ipl (iPodLinux logo), net (network icon), hd (hard drive icon from OS X), music (nice musical note icon), and done ("OK to disconnect" icon from iPod firmware) 02:50 < rage-> hah 02:50 < rage-> unoriginal! 02:51 < virtualball_> lol 02:51 < josh_> want to make some better ones? :P 02:51 < Vanquisher> sometimes i wonder why i installed cedega on a computer with a 16mb graphics card....like im gonna be doing some gaming on it LOL 02:51 < rage-> I just migh 02:51 < rage-> t 02:51 < rage-> graphics are what I'm good at ;) 02:51 < josh_> I'd love the help! :P 02:51 < josh_> rage-: did it show the command executing, below the progress indicator? 02:51 < rage-> don't believe so 02:51 < josh_> was the progress bar aqua-y or just b&w? 02:52 < rage-> rebooting 02:52 < rage-> black 02:52 < virtualball_> wait aegray which idea is right, Europe invested all there money into the south or that they decided to use the south to spread non-rebillian ideas? 02:52 < josh_> hm. 02:52 < rage-> all I see is the green circle 02:52 < rage-> and a black progress bar 02:52 < josh_> is the circle animated? 02:52 < aegray> virtualball_ its your essay 02:52 < rage-> yupper 02:52 < aegray> i'm just the grader at the end 02:52 < josh_> ok 02:53 < aegray> you can have a diff topic if you want 02:53 < virtualball_> Gah, what if Im wrong? 02:53 < aegray> i have one 02:53 < josh_> it looks like it's using the color icons, but it thinks it's running on a bw ipod. 02:53 < aegray> then your screwed 02:53 < rage-> that's completely contradictory josh heh 02:53 < josh_> rage-: lemme check 02:53 < virtualball_> Aegray cmon, i wrote 3 paragraphs alreay, just tell me, plz 02:54 < aegray> i forgot what i'm telling you 02:54 < virtualball_> if ur ipod takes mpeg1, it so simple, just a yes or no answer 02:54 < aegray> yon 02:54 < aegray> es 02:55 < josh_> mu 02:55 < virtualball_> AHHH, what? 02:55 < aegray> mpeg1? 02:55 < aegray> whats that? 02:55 < Capso> Heh. 02:55 < Capso> 6 pages. 02:55 < virtualball_> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 02:55 * virtualball_ explodes 02:55 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC87B97A.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["virtualball_ has no reason"] 02:55 < Vanquisher> aegray, so that mencoder command and drop that -nosound and it shall be good? 02:55 < Capso> Neat. 02:55 < aegray> Vanquisher: add -oac pcm 02:55 < josh_> Vanq: you nead -oac pcm 02:55 < Vanquisher> thanks 02:56 * Vanquisher is pumped 02:56 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC87B97A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 < Vanquisher> will the video player ever get off raw avi, they are so huge 02:56 < aegray> you fix it then 02:56 < josh_> haha 02:56 < cdm> good luck with that... 02:56 < rage-> josh_, I'm kinda paying attention to tv so PM me whenever you figure out what's going on 02:56 < rage-> so I don't miss your chat 02:56 < cdm> wicked fast 80Mhz ARm7. 02:57 < josh_> rage-: ok 02:57 < aegray> seriously 02:57 < virtualball_> aegray im mad at u ):-( 02:57 < aegray> 80mhz can do divx 640x480 right? 02:57 -!- aegray is now known as im_not_aegray 02:57 < im_not_aegray> yea fuck aegray 02:57 < im_not_aegray> that asshole 02:57 < virtualball_> ahhhh 02:57 -!- josh_ is now known as aegray 02:57 < virtualball_> lol 02:57 < aegray> hey, stop it! 02:58 -!- aegray is now known as josh_ 02:58 < virtualball_> hahahahah 02:58 < im_not_aegray> damn 02:58 -!- virtualball_ is now known as Im_not_aegray_ 02:58 < Im_not_aegray_> lol 02:59 -!- Im_not_aegray_ is now known as virtualball 02:59 -!- virtualball is now known as virtualball_ 02:59 < cdm> aegray: 80Mhz of what CPU? 02:59 < im_not_aegray> arm7tdmi 03:00 * im_not_aegray wishes 03:00 < cdm> I doubt it. 03:00 -!- virtualball_ is now known as virtualball__ 03:00 < im_not_aegray> seriously though - why am I handling the video player - i probably know less about video formats and compression than anyone in here 03:00 < im_not_aegray> its like having a blind person drive your taxi 03:01 < cdm> 200Mhz StrongARM was able to do 320x200 video of some sort. 03:01 < virtualball__> hey welcome to new york 03:01 < im_not_aegray> can we replace the ipod processor? 03:01 * im_not_aegray gets out his soldering iron 03:01 -!- im_not_aegray is now known as aegray 03:01 < virtualball__> i aint 03:02 -!- virtualball__ is now known as virtualball_ 03:02 < virtualball_> Aegray how much projects r u workin on? 03:02 < aegray> none 03:02 < aegray> i don't work 03:02 < virtualball_> ok 03:03 < virtualball_> Aegray how much projects r u ignoring? 03:03 < aegray> 36 03:03 < virtualball_> lol 03:05 < virtualball_> aegray just tell me does ur iPod take mpg's? 03:05 < aegray> yes 03:05 < virtualball_> seriously? Dang can u send it to me :-) 03:06 < aegray> no 03:06 < virtualball_> awwww 03:06 < virtualball_> d 03:06 < josh_> rage-: ping 03:06 < virtualball_> sorry bout that 03:06 < virtualball_> aegray if ur not lying will u release it 03:06 < aegray> maybe some day 03:07 < aegray> i have a lot of work to do still 03:07 < virtualball_> gah, im too tired to beg u for it 03:07 < aegray> it wouldn't do you any good 03:07 < virtualball_> y? 03:07 < virtualball_> hard to make it work? 03:07 < aegray> its buggy 03:08 < virtualball_> like? frames freeze and stuf? 03:08 < aegray> top secret stuff 03:08 < aegray> and crashes 03:08 < virtualball_> lol 03:09 < virtualball_> aegray i have 1.5 pages done, im stopping 03:09 < aegray> quitter 03:09 < virtualball_> Gah 03:09 < aegray> we'll put it up on ipodlinux.org 03:09 < aegray> you'll be famous 03:09 < virtualball_> well u told me what i wanted to know 03:09 < aegray> damn me 03:09 < virtualball_> ya right, im not that stupid 03:09 < virtualball_> haha 03:10 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.53=-"] 03:10 < virtualball_> yes yes damn you, so r u really 13, or am i still that gullible? lol 03:10 < aegray> 13 03:10 < virtualball_> wow 03:10 < Capso> He's 13? I thought he was 12. 03:11 < aegray> just turned :) 03:11 < Capso> Oh, yea! 03:11 < Capso> March 28th, right? 03:11 < aegray> no 03:11 -!- NSGN [n=NSGN@cpe-66-69-197-25.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:11 < virtualball_> SO WAIT IVE BEEN GROVELING ALL NIGHT TO A 12-13 YEAR OLD?!?! 03:11 < NSGN> ha! breakthrough, i think 03:11 < aegray> nice call though - thats my brothers bday 03:11 < NSGN> i just did a video with sound in quicktime pro 03:11 < NSGN> and the ipod played it 03:11 < Capso> Aegray: Seriously? 03:11 < aegray> yea seriously 03:11 < virtualball_> nsgn how? 03:11 < aegray> haha 03:11 < aegray> NSGN: please post it to the forum 03:11 < NSGN> virtualball_: it was really easy... 03:12 < virtualball_> how?!? 03:12 < NSGN> aegray: i'm writing up a how to right now 03:12 < NSGN> virtual: chill 03:12 < NSGN> ittl be posted when i type it down 03:12 < virtualball_> ok sorry 03:12 < NSGN> wont be long. im testing it one more time to make sure i get the colors right, then we're set 03:12 < NSGN> less than 20 mins and you'll be able to 03:12 < virtualball_> wait, ive been asking to call a 13 y/o sir, wow dodged that bullet 03:13 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 03:14 < Capso> Virtualball_: Yea... you can, however, call me sir. 03:15 < virtualball_> pshh i culd, sadly, learn a lot mor from aegray so id rather call him sir :P, too bad 03:15 < virtualball_> until next time i want practicly useless info 03:15 < aegray> i dunno 03:15 < Capso> ... 03:15 < aegray> capso can teach you a thing or two 03:15 < aegray> or three 03:16 < aegray> i just write sloppy code 03:16 < Capso> Heh, just wait till he's away. 03:16 < NSGN> aegray or somebody else: ok i almost have this perfect. i had one glitch of the colors being all corrupted looking though. what is the equiv of "32768 colors" in quicktime pro 7? i tried millions of colors, and that wasnt it 03:16 < Capso> Then we'll see who's feet you need to slather over. 03:16 < NSGN> i have audio perfect, just gotta get video right in qtp and we're good to go 03:16 < virtualball_> till hu is away 03:16 < virtualball_> NSGN will this work for b&W? 03:17 < aegray> 2bppconv! 03:17 < NSGN> no 03:17 < NSGN> well, it might...but i really doubt it 03:17 < virtualball_> GAHH 03:17 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:17 < virtualball_> lol 03:17 < NSGN> i have no way to test it for b&w 03:17 < NSGN> this is for color ipod 03:17 < NSGN> 4g 03:17 < aegray> vet! 03:17 < virtualball_> oh ok 03:17 < aegray> we almost got it 03:17 < virtualball_> vet too bad u wernt here 03:18 < Capso> Virtualball_: If you're referring to the idiocy of the past 15 minutes -- he would be glad he wasn't here. 03:18 < aegray> haha 03:19 < virtualball_> and wait Capso im not gunna "slather" over peoples eet, eww, and haha 03:19 < virtualball_> *feet 03:19 < virtualball_> sorry just scrooled up, im attempting to un-delete my essay :P 03:19 < Capso> 3 paragraphs... that's slathering over whatever comes one or two feet above the feet. 03:20 < virtualball_> huh? 03:20 < Capso> Maybe if we sit still, he won't notice us. 03:21 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951BFE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:21 < Capso> /window 7 03:21 < Capso> Hrm. 03:21 < virtualball_> oh and for ur info it was 6.5 paragraphs 03:21 < Capso> That's slathering over the back-side of the previous slathering. 03:22 < virtualball_> Gah, ur right 03:22 < Capso> Pretty much always. 03:22 < virtualball_> ya i pretty much listen to whatever people suggest, im a simple fellow 03:22 < Capso> Sheep. 03:23 < NSGN> ok, does anybody know how to get around the colors looking scrambled when doing a quicktime pro export? thats my only hurdle. audio works great now. once i get good vid from qtp, i'll write my tutorial 03:24 < aegray> read the thread on the forum - i'm sure they know how 03:25 < NSGN> i am...they all refer to "32768 colors" 03:25 < NSGN> i'm not getting that as an option 03:25 < NSGN> just hundreds, thousands, millions, etc 03:26 < virtualball_> 1) We convert to 15bit, not 16bit like mencoder. There is no setting for 65536 colors in QT. Hence colors might be fucked up (they are when viewing in Mplayer/VLC, not in QT though!). Try 16,8 Mill colors instead of 32768 if this happens, maybe that works better! 03:26 < virtualball_> 2) the fourcc-code that is used to identify the video will probably not bgr16 like mencoder sets it. If it won't play at all you'll need to find something to change the fourcc into "bgr16", which may get the file playing if it wasn't playing before, but the colors might still be fuxX0red (see 1). 03:26 < virtualball_> If neither 32768 colors nor 16,8 mill colors show a correct result we can't do it in QT, since it just doesn't offer the needed color-depth! If it won't play at all the problem lies somewhere else probably... 03:27 < virtualball_> sorry i was gunna paste that into note pad then send it to u, rong app 03:27 < NSGN> that really confuses me... 03:28 < virtualball_> its frum the forum 03:28 < virtualball_> or as aegray calls it, the shitbin 03:28 < aegray> i'm starting to call this room the shitbin too 03:28 < josh_> haha 03:28 < josh_> bootsplash is done 03:28 < aegray> nice 03:28 < virtualball_> lol, sorry it must be me hus making it like that 03:28 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:28 < Capso> Aegray: Same as I. 03:29 < aegray> damn straight 03:29 < Capso> Aegray: Should start another. 03:29 < coob> did someone mention a shitbin? 03:29 < virtualball_> way to go josh 03:29 < Capso> Coob: Yar. 03:29 < virtualball_> lol 03:29 < aegray> mention shitbin and coob comes running 03:29 < josh_> haha 03:29 * aegray low blow kindof 03:29 < aegray> if that even worked as a joke 03:29 < aegray> ugh 03:29 * aegray shuts up 03:30 < coob> lol 03:30 < coob> well i must say 03:30 < coob> this illuminated keyboard is the shit 03:30 < aegray> why? 03:30 < aegray> it looks cool :) 03:30 < coob> the shit as in good :) 03:31 < aegray> nice 03:31 < josh_> aegray: "the shit" != "shit" 03:31 < Capso> King of shit. 03:31 < Capso> "The shit" == Me. 03:31 < aegray> (char *)((char *)("the shit")+4) == "shit" 03:31 < aegray> i think 03:31 < josh_> or... 03:32 < josh_> "the shit" + 4 == "shit" 03:32 < aegray> does it? 03:32 < josh_> actually 03:32 < josh_> strcmp("the shit" + 4, "shit") == 0 03:32 < aegray> bla 03:32 < virtualball_> lol 03:32 < josh_> your extra casting doesn't change anything :P 03:32 < Capso> "The shit" + Capso == Damn right. 03:32 < coob> strcmp is for lazy people! 03:32 < aegray> honestly 03:32 < aegray> josh_ you lazy bastard 03:32 < josh_> Capso: for certain values of (Capso, Damn_right), e.g. (3, "The shit"+3) 03:33 < aegray> wtf 03:33 < coob> i concur 03:33 < virtualball_> oh b4 i shut up for the rest of tonight, i managed to get 3 paragraphs back from my essy :D 03:33 < coob> also, ipods. 03:33 < Capso> I The Shit. 03:33 -!- coob [i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:33 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:34 < NSGN> aegray: bug report (not sure if you know this one yet or not). if i play a video, quit the video, then try to play another, iPL freezes at the loading video screen 03:34 < Capso> Do you know why they left 03:34 < Capso> ? 03:34 < Capso> Heh. 03:34 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 03:35 < josh_> Capso: statement of protest? 03:35 < Capso> Josh_: I know why they left -- I'm just trying to make the idiots because of whom they left realise why they left. 03:37 < ShiintoRyuu> is ln -s /lib/libncurses.so.5 /lib/libncurses.so.4 a misstake? o.=.o otherwise Im getting an error with revdep-rebuild 03:44 < NSGN> ok....this is stupid. i'm so close. i just cant get teh right colors in quicktime 03:45 -!- jaebird [n=jae@208.184.145.65] has joined #ipodlinux 03:48 < ShiintoRyuu> is there a gif2avi for linux? :) or.. might someone explain me how to view animated gifs on podzilla? 03:50 < NSGN> ok, i just posted to the forums the audio settings for quicktime 03:50 < virtualball_> yay 03:51 < NSGN> and theoretically for greyscale ipods 03:51 < NSGN> but i dont own one...so somebody test it for me 03:51 < NSGN> it is confirmed working audio via quicktime on the photo/color ipod...but i cant get teh stupid video to look right 03:53 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 < ehh> anyone know any way to take a dvd and turn it into an avi file i want to put some dvds on my computer so i can put them on my ipod 03:58 < ShiintoRyuu> rip ya dvd in avi format, then mencoder -ovc raw -ofps 15 -oac pcm -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 in.avi -o out.avi ^^ 03:58 < virtualball_> OK my problem was that mpg's use a muxed track which is the audio and video in the same track, so eventually when exportin it wont work 03:59 < ehh> ShiintoRyuu yeah thats what i want to do but i cant find a program that will rip it all in one program 04:00 < NSGN> virtualball_: true, currently that is harder 04:00 < NSGN> it is possible, but harder 04:01 < ShiintoRyuu> http://www.kefk.net/Linux/Software/GTK/Dvdrip/index.asp 04:01 < ShiintoRyuu> @eeh 04:03 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 04:07 < NSGN> aegray: ok, i just ran the string mencoder -ovc raw -ofps 15 -oac pcm -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 in.avi -o out.avi in mencoder and got corrupted colors on my ipod photo :-/ 04:09 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:09 < josh_> veteran: couldn't upload the 40MB file to the wiki 04:09 < josh_> tried twice 04:09 < josh_> no error, it just refreshed /Special:Upload with the form fields blank. 04:10 < josh_> after like 6 minutes 04:10 < veteran> oh might be a php config one sec 04:10 < NSGN> who here has used mencoder to encode a video for the photo? 04:10 < veteran> upload_max_filesize = 2M 04:10 < veteran> yeeah that might explain it :s 04:10 < veteran> sorry about that 04:10 < josh_> yep, that'd do it :P 04:10 < josh_> it's actually 44MB 04:10 < josh_> so set it to like 50 to be safe 04:10 < veteran> 900 04:10 < veteran> go for it 04:10 < josh_> works too :P 04:11 < josh_> cool 04:11 < josh_> NSGN: try rgb16 instead of bgr16 04:11 < NSGN> whats the diff? (ima noob fyi) 04:11 < NSGN> *tries anyway* 04:12 < josh_> NSGN: bgr16 means the colors are arranged BBBBB GGGGGG RRRRR in the pixel, and rgb16 means RRRRR GGGGGG BBBBB. 04:12 < josh_> which would explain the corrupted colors 04:12 < josh_> if you can see the right shapes, but the colors are really off, that's probably it. 04:12 < NSGN> hmm..ok. i'll try 04:12 < NSGN> just a few 04:12 < josh_> (R = red, G = green, B = blue) 04:13 < josh_> NSGN: if it's just a little bit off that's definitely not it 04:13 < josh_> if that was it you would see red as blue. 04:13 < NSGN> i'm not sure. im gonna save the bgr and the rgb result to the ipod and try them, and come back and tell ya how it goes 04:13 < NSGN> here goes 04:13 < josh_> ok cool 04:13 < NSGN> fyi, my source file is a quicktime .mov file. is that an issue? 04:13 < josh_> shouldn't be 04:14 < josh_> as long as mplayer can play it, it'll work with mencoder. 04:14 < NSGN> hmm 04:14 < NSGN> well its encoding the rgb one 04:14 < NSGN> then ima try 04:15 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 04:15 < NSGN> from what i saw it looked like more than just colors in the wrong places...but we'll try this before i cry that 04:15 < josh_> ok 04:18 < NSGN> tested 04:18 < NSGN> different colors, same problem 04:19 < josh_> they're both off? 04:19 < NSGN> it looks like the number of colors is incorrect 04:19 < NSGN> yes 04:19 < josh_> no, it's definitely 16-bit 04:19 < josh_> which is better? 04:19 < NSGN> well....i'm using the exact string from the wiki. and bgr was better 04:19 < josh_> ok 04:19 < NSGN> so why isnt it working if its what was put on wiki? something is wrong here... 04:20 < josh_> what (Apple) firmware version do you have? 04:20 < virtualball_> NSGN r the files supposed to be 1.25 GB for a 30sec file? 04:20 < josh_> vb_: photo? 04:20 < ShiintoRyuu> lol 04:20 < virtualball_> nope b&w 04:20 < josh_> that's way too much 04:20 < NSGN> virtualball_: there is a glitch for b&w ipods in the converter that causes that 04:20 < josh_> should be 04:20 < NSGN> it wont work for now 04:20 < josh_> 153600 04:20 < virtualball_> lol for the colors under the video option, i choose 4 gray right? 04:20 < NSGN> josh_: i have the latest firmware, but a video aegray converted and gave to me looks perfect 04:20 < josh_> bytes 04:21 < josh_> NSGN: hmm, no idea then 04:21 < josh_> vb_: yep 04:21 < NSGN> -_- 04:21 < virtualball_> maybe it was that I had a text track? 04:21 < josh_> could be, I guess 04:22 < virtualball_> it always freezes at the last frame for no reason 04:22 < NSGN> josh_: to describe my problem; it looks like viewing a millions of colors video on a computer with only 256 color video card. very grainy and wrong colors 04:23 -!- dlowder [n=doug@c-24-4-208-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 -!- dlowder [n=doug@c-24-4-208-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:27 < virtualball_> 1.33 GB for 30 seconds (the GI Joe parody to be exact) 04:28 < NSGN> virtual...are you running it through that second converter? 04:28 < NSGN> for greyscale ipods? 04:28 < virtualball_> ya 04:28 < virtualball_> 2bppconv 04:28 < NSGN> that is the problem 04:28 < NSGN> that program has issues with filesizes 04:28 < NSGN> if it comes out that big, it failed 04:28 < NSGN> i told you that earlier... 04:29 < virtualball_> Damn, any way to fix it? 04:29 < virtualball_> it ended up 1.54 GB 04:29 < NSGN> dude...chill out. if there was a way to fix it right this very moment, it'd have been done 04:30 < virtualball_> umm im not freakin out, at least i dont think, lol, ok thnx 04:31 < NSGN> ping to aegray . you there? 04:31 < josh_> aegray isn't in here 04:31 < Zol> lmao 04:31 < Zol> how can video be so big? :s 04:31 < Zol> it boggles my mind 04:31 < josh_> Zol: bug? 04:31 < josh_> don't you mean "how can video be so bug?" 04:31 < josh_> :P 04:31 < Zol> :p 04:31 < Zol> still 04:32 < Zol> how many mb's for a 1min color clip? 04:32 < Zol> roughly 04:32 < josh_> it will be 04:32 < josh_> 69696000 04:32 < josh_> bytes 04:32 < josh_> which is 04:32 < josh_> 66 04:32 < josh_> megabytes 04:32 < NSGN> i just did a 3 min color clip. 350mb approx 04:33 < NSGN> with audio, mind you 04:33 < Zol> thats huge! 04:33 < Zol> still :/ 04:33 < NSGN> thats uncompressed 04:33 < NSGN> :-P 04:33 < Zol> someone needs to port media player onto the ipod =p 04:33 < josh_> haha 04:33 < josh_> 1fps? 04:33 < virtualball_> Zol I got 1.54 GB for 30 b&w, lol :P 04:33 < Zol> vb: you mean 30min of black/white? 04:34 < josh_> 30 *seconds* 04:34 < virtualball_> nope secs :-P 04:34 < josh_> should be 150kb 04:34 < virtualball_> NSGN said is sumtin wrong with 2bppconv 04:35 < Zol> so what does decompression do? 04:35 < Zol> take the video, and split it into a billion single frames? 04:35 < josh_> Zol: basically 04:35 < Zol> bah 04:35 < Zol> that blows 04:36 < NSGN> josh_: ok, yeah, this def isnt just color that is off 04:36 < NSGN> the video isnt even recognizable 04:36 < NSGN> looks like abstract visuals in windows media player or something :-P 04:36 < Zol> ooooooh 04:37 < virtualball_> lol 04:37 < Zol> sounds psychedetastic 04:38 < virtualball_> huh? lol 04:39 < Zol> *psychedelic 04:39 < Zol> hmmm 04:39 * Zol checks his forum topic 04:40 < Zol> =p noone flocked to help yet, meh 04:43 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:43 < josh_> which one? 04:43 < Zol> oh 04:44 < Zol> i couldnt find a solution to my iPL problem 04:44 < Zol> so i finally made a forum plea for help 04:44 < Zol> your name is mentioned, i hope its okay 04:46 -!- parann0yed [n=bob@66-230-104-25-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net] has joined #iPodLinux 04:46 < ShiintoRyuu> how to convert gif to avi? :/ 04:46 < Zol> whaaa? 04:46 < virtualball_> well i tried mencoder, and of course, it skipped like 12 frames, ut now its 3.6 MB after conversion, lemme test it 04:48 < virtualball_> is it normal 4 mencoder to put lines thru the movie? 04:49 < NSGN> yeah, thats totally the way it was written 04:49 < virtualball_> that sux, anyway around it, or nope 04:51 < NSGN> ..... 04:51 < NSGN> geez you are gullible 04:52 < ShiintoRyuu> isnt there a libgif like libjpeg to insert into podzilla? 04:52 < virtualball_> wait y am i gullible again? lol 04:52 < virtualball_> so its not written like that 04:53 -!- zsr [i=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:53 < josh_> ShiintoRyuu: nope, GIF is covered by various patents. 04:53 -!- jebs419 [n=jebs@pool-70-111-160-226.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:54 -!- jebs419 [n=jebs@pool-70-111-160-226.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:54 < virtualball_> Josh, so can we make *Personal* builds with gif? 04:54 < virtualball_> :-) 04:54 < josh_> sure, google libungif 04:54 < josh_> `google libungif 04:54 < iplbot> LibUnGif (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libungif.htm): LibUnGif is a library for reading and writing gif images. The save functionality 04:54 < virtualball_> wow cool thnx, im too lazy but 2moros another day! 04:58 < ShiintoRyuu> josh_: uhm.. now I just need to know how to get that into podzilla o.=.o; 05:05 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:05 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit ["poop"] 05:05 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:09 < lurkapup> so where is the best place to find out whats changed in each nightly? 05:09 < aegray> booc.coob.org/ipl 05:09 < lurkapup> cheers 05:11 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-193-62.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 < courtc> BOO! 05:11 < macpod> aaah 05:12 < macpod> courtc check my drawing 05:12 < courtc> saw it, cute. 05:12 < courtc> Impossibly small! 05:12 < Zol> aegreay: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/ipodlinux looks better 05:12 < macpod> don't like it? :( 05:12 < Zol> *aegray 05:12 < aegray> eh 05:12 < courtc> aegreay, I can't spell your name. 05:13 < macpod> Does anyone here have cygwin and have the latest 2bppconv app as a bin? I'm making a package 05:13 < josh_> macpod: what drawing? 05:13 < josh_> courtc: both bootsplash and the gcc-port have been released. 05:13 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/toolchain/OSX-ppc/ 05:13 < Zol> the pico-mini? 05:13 < macpod> courtc, you are making a ppc version of 3.4? 05:13 < courtc> if you can't figure out what that link is, stab yourself in the eye. 05:14 < josh_> 22:13 < josh_> macpod: what drawing? 05:14 < courtc> s/are/did/ 05:14 < courtc> yes 05:14 < josh_> courtc: nice. 05:14 < macpod> that's cool 05:14 * josh_ writing uCdl (loadable module lib for uClinux) 05:14 < virtualball_> macpod I have the new 2bppconv 05:14 < macpod> can you send it to me? 05:15 < courtc> umm.. 05:15 < macpod> but only if it was compiled for cygwin 05:15 < courtc> what? 05:15 < virtualball_> whats ur email? 05:15 < macpod> can you dcc it? 05:15 < virtualball_> o then nvm, sorry 05:15 < courtc> I'm terribly confused 05:15 -!- McStar [i=McStar@87.82.21.157] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:15 < josh_> courtc: to whom was that "what?" directed? 05:15 < virtualball_> i was compiled thru terminal 05:16 < josh_> you're a bot! we've always known! :P 05:16 < courtc> parse error. 05:16 < macpod> virtual, does it run under windows? 05:16 < virtualball_> dunno i only hav a mac 05:16 < macpod> then n/m 05:16 < virtualball_> oJosh: haha 05:17 -!- josh_ is now known as oJosh 05:17 < oJosh> yep 05:17 -!- oJosh is now known as josh_ 05:17 < virtualball_> if i was a bot i wouldnt hav so much damned spelling mistakes 05:17 < josh_> haha 05:17 < courtc> macpod: what now? 05:17 -!- gezz [n=unimport@d207-6-199-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:17 < gezz> hey 05:17 < gezz> can someone directme in the right direction? 05:17 < josh_> sure. where would you like to go today? 05:17 < courtc> most of all... I like the way you move! 05:18 < gezz> umm 05:18 < josh_> gezz: do you want to be more specific? 05:18 < courtc> gezz: third door on the left. 05:18 < gezz> im trying to put ipodlinux on teh unsupported 4g ipod photo 05:18 < virtualball_> o 05:18 < josh_> does "unsupported" tell you something? go on, but no guarantees. 05:18 < macpod> courtc: what? 05:18 < courtc> macpod: what? 05:18 < gezz> well 05:19 < gezz> i noticed that he http://www.ipodlinux.org/4g_installer 05:19 < gezz> the* 05:19 < cdm> courtc: You guys noticed that there are two different types of color ipods? 05:19 < gezz> link does not workkk 05:19 < josh_> cdm: really? 05:19 < macpod> there are indeed 05:19 < Zol> gezz: 05:19 < Zol> wait 05:19 < josh_> been wondering about that... 05:19 < Zol> cdm 05:19 < Zol> yeah 05:19 < macpod> even the sysinfo file changed slightly 05:19 < josh_> cdm: define "different" 05:19 < josh_> (if you can) 05:20 < gezz> so where do i go to downlaod it 05:20 < cdm> I can't. But you guys must have noticed that the battery life numbers went up. 05:20 < gezz> the torrent mirro has no one seeding 05:20 < courtc> ahha, pp5022 05:20 < macpod> heh 05:20 < josh_> aHA! 05:20 < courtc> vs pp5020 05:20 < josh_> that's odd though, the first digit of the boardHwRev didn't change... 05:20 < courtc> tricky. 05:20 < josh_> between e.g. the 1g mini and 2g mini (same change) it did. 05:20 < josh_> or did it? 05:21 < macpod> I noticed that a few days ago 05:21 < gezz> anyone willing to help? 05:21 < josh_> Zol: probably why you're having trouble with iPL... 05:21 < macpod> when I was collecting the sysinfo stuff and saw the numbers were different 05:21 < josh_> macpod: how different? 05:21 < josh_> which digit? 05:21 < macpod> not much 05:21 < macpod> on the 10 digit string, there was a 4 on the end as opposed to a 0 like the photos did 05:21 < macpod> That got me thinkin 05:21 < josh_> oh yeah, I knew about that. 05:22 < courtc> I think all ipods do that with different revs. 05:22 < virtualball_> my mencode doesnt like the simpsons, lol 05:22 < macpod> Well, if they are the same hardware, that number should remain the same 05:22 < josh_> it's only the first digit that indicates an API change, I believe 05:23 < courtc> all the ipod gens have different hardware revs though. 05:23 < macpod> But since that chip is essentially register compatible.. and it was a later model, it makes sense 05:23 < josh_> macpod: but iPL didn't immediately run on the mini2g when it came out... 05:23 < josh_> wasn't that the only change there too? 05:23 < macpod> The mini 2g did not run at first not because of the cpu but rather the video driver at first iir 05:23 < macpod> *not because of the cpu 05:24 < josh_> ah 05:24 < courtc> but the rew revision does run ipodlinux? 05:24 < courtc> new* 05:24 < josh_> rage- has one and it does 05:24 < josh_> Zol has one and it doesn't 05:25 < macpod> Yes 05:25 < macpod> I just had that magazine dude check an installer build 05:25 < macpod> worked without a hitch 05:25 < courtc> speaking of 05:25 < macpod> I still don't understand where the rumor of having to downgrade the firmware came from 05:26 < rage-> perhaps zol and I should compare our sysinfo files 05:26 < josh_> does anyone know if iPL puts the .text and .data contiguous when loading FLTs? 05:27 < macpod> cdm I have a good comic for you: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/nelsonjm/impossibly_small.jpg 05:27 < macpod> Not directed at anyone of course. 05:27 < cdm> hahhaa... 05:27 < josh_> haha 05:27 -!- gezz [n=unimport@d207-6-199-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["die die die.."] 05:27 < Zol> hey 05:28 < Zol> figured out my problem ? :o 05:28 < Zol> so you're saying that its inherent in my ipod? 05:28 < josh_> no, probably not actually 05:28 < josh_> since other people have 6.1gs and they work 05:28 < Zol> software difference? 05:28 < josh_> (I'll call the revised color the "6.1g") 05:28 < Zol> yeah you told me 05:28 < josh_> Zol: probably not, the "downgrade your firmware" thing was apparently a myth 05:28 < courtc> I kept telling people it was. 05:29 < Zol> -_- 05:29 < macpod> Yea, but nobody beleived me 05:29 < ShiintoRyuu> revised color? 05:29 < macpod> So I laughed at them. 05:29 < Zol> *upgrades firmware 05:29 < Zol> rage_: how do i dcc with you? 05:29 < Zol> or should we both give our sysinfo files to josh? 05:30 < macpod> hey josh, do you know about the forum thread with all the sysinfo files? 05:30 < macpod> not sure if that could help you.. 05:30 < macpod> I can also point out what to look for to identify iPods 05:30 < Zol> please, go on 05:30 < courtc> heh, josh_ gets appointed somehow. 05:30 -!- Synapse is now known as Beanni 05:31 -!- Beanni is now known as Synapse 05:31 < Zol> he's helped me from the beginning 05:31 < josh_> macpod: thread with sysinfo files = no, I don't. 05:31 < Zol> and has been very kind 05:31 < josh_> Zol: send your file to rage- and have him "diff -u" it with his 05:31 < courtc> someone want to modify /Toolchain for me? 05:31 < josh_> probably the easiest way 05:31 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1583 05:31 < josh_> cool, thanks 05:31 < courtc> please? 05:31 < macpod> pm me for exactly the info you need 05:31 < Zol> how do i dcc it? 05:32 < macpod> I alreayd have it written down but do not want ot flood the channel' 05:32 < josh_> Zol: just /msg it to him, but it's short 05:32 < josh_> macpod: what info? 05:32 < courtc> I'll give you a free toolchain. 05:32 < josh_> haha 05:32 < Zol> yeah, which part of the sysinfo josh? 05:32 < virtualball_> c ya 05:32 < josh_> I'll give the person who does it a free toolchain -- for the iPod, no less :P 05:32 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC87B97A.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["virtualball_ has no reason"] 05:32 < josh_> Zol: all of it except the serial number 05:32 < Zol> ok 05:32 < Zol> rage 05:32 < Zol> join #ipodlinux.flood 05:33 < macpod> josh you are attempting to identify the iPod type right? 05:33 < courtc> I'll give em a free 3.4 with locale toolchain for linux-x86 or OSX-ppc 05:33 < NSGN> okieday, i just got me a linux converting box going with mencoder, and i can make videos now with audio for the photo 05:33 < NSGN> yay! 05:33 < NSGN> slight sync issues still between audio/video...but this is looking impressive 05:33 < josh_> courtc: and I'll throw in a free 3.4 for arm-elf. 05:34 < Zol> rage: join ipodlinux.flood 05:34 < Zol> and anyone else who is interested in my sysinfo file =p 05:34 < josh_> macpod: yeah 05:34 < macpod> pm me 05:34 < rage-> pm me 05:34 < josh_> is there anything that differs other than the sysinfo file? 05:34 < courtc> josh_: heh, 3.4 eh? nice. 05:34 < Zol> i can....bah 05:34 < josh_> courtc: yep, 3.4.0 05:34 < Zol> 1 sec 05:34 < josh_> not sure if it has locale or not :P 05:34 -!- Zol is now known as Zolly 05:35 < Zolly> ok 05:35 < Zolly> now i can pm 05:36 -!- NSGN [n=NSGN@cpe-66-69-197-25.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:37 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 05:39 < courtc> oh well, I'm not going to do it. I'd much rather code then document. 05:39 < Zolly> rage-: got it all? 05:41 < rage-> think so 05:46 < Zolly> cool 05:46 < Zolly> any diff? 05:50 < macpod> Ok, just compiled/uploaded the binary audio/video converter for linux and os x 05:51 < Kingstone> nice 05:51 < macpod> If someone has this compiled for cygwin, pm me so I can add it for convienience 05:55 < macpod> courtc: how long did it take for you to make the toolchain? also, does it have the multiple language stuff in it? 05:55 < courtc> ~5 hours, yes 05:56 < macpod> awsome 05:56 < macpod> now we have to start using mpd 05:57 < cdm> mpd? 05:57 < macpod> music playing daemon 05:57 < macpod> it makes music playback under iPL much better 05:58 < courtc> `mpd 05:58 < cdm> ah 05:58 < courtc> `mpd 05:58 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from courtc] 06:00 < cdm> neat 06:00 < cdm> so is podzilla just a client to mpd now? 06:00 < Kingstone> what are its advantages? 06:00 < courtc> Kingstone: read the page 06:00 < Kingstone> k 06:00 < Kingstone> and is it stable? 06:01 < Kingstone> cause from what i've heard on floydzilla 06:01 < courtc> Kingstone: no, read the page. 06:01 < courtc> floydzilla is not supported 06:01 < Kingstone> no for the stability lol? 06:01 < aegray> gah 06:01 < courtc> Kingstone: read the page 06:01 < Kingstone> i'm reading 06:02 < Kingstone> i'm not that fast 06:02 < Zolly> rage- you still there? 06:02 < courtc> cdm: thats the idea 06:02 < rage-> no 06:02 < cdm> courtc: good idea. 06:02 < Kingstone> "spin useless cubes at the same time" lol 06:02 < Zolly> rage- found any difference? 06:03 < rage-> just getting to it now 06:03 < Zolly> ah 06:05 < rage-> great 06:06 < rage-> my shift, ctrl, alt, capslock.. 06:06 < rage-> none of them work 06:06 < Kingstone> so is it done by any stage that MPD? 06:06 < Kingstone> and from what i've read u use MPDdb, how is it different from iTunesDB? 06:06 < Kingstone> cause the whole point is not to build a new DB, one can make this however it wants 06:07 < Kingstone> it need to be compatible with itunes or something 06:08 < courtc> yea, thanks for trying to explain to me what the mpd database should be. 06:08 < cdm> hahaha 06:08 < macpod> having something that reads more than just the iTunesDB is a great idea 06:08 < macpod> I'm gonna set it up so it reads videos 06:08 < macpod> aka vodcasts 06:08 < macpod> then make an app that reads and converts them from the users iTunes library 06:09 < macpod> so bam, missing feature added. 06:09 < Zolly> btw 06:09 < Zolly> is iPod's 75mhz even ABLE to play videos decently? 06:09 < macpod> Considering it already does... yes. 06:09 < Zolly> i wonder how that works 06:09 < macpod> You should read the code. 06:10 < josh_> Zolly: they're uncompressed. 06:10 < rage-> it does not play videos1 06:10 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 06:10 < Zolly> i konow nothing 06:10 < rage-> not for me ;p 06:10 < josh_> it's basically just blasting bits to the screen 06:10 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:10 < josh_> (and audio port) 06:10 < Zolly> =p 06:10 < courtc> I built in a iTunesDB scanner to mpddb, and it worked really well... for me. 06:10 < Zolly> at 75mhz? 06:10 < Zolly> it must have a finite limit of blasting 06:10 < josh_> Zolly: yeah, it's not very hard to blit. 06:10 < rage-> courtc, what did it do before/ 06:11 < courtc> rage-: before what? 06:11 < rage-> oh 06:11 < rage-> perhaps i understood you wrong 06:11 < rage-> did you do that just recently/ 06:11 < rage-> or some time ago 06:11 < courtc> It only scanned files, now it does both. 06:11 < courtc> a while ago. 06:12 < rage-> hrm 06:12 < rage-> well it doesn't work too well for me ;o 06:12 < Capso> Courtc: Hello. 06:12 < Kingstone> i don't say i have problem with other means of dbs just you need to keep support of itunesdb and leave it pretty much how it is in apple fw, like artists/songs/albums etc 06:12 < courtc> rage-: yea well, nothing works for you. 06:12 < Kingstone> courtc you compile all from *nix system? 06:12 < Kingstone> or cygwin? 06:12 < Capso> Courtc: Mind if I take a look at that iTunesDB Scanner tomorrow? 06:13 < rage-> courtc, this is quite true 06:13 < aegray> god 06:13 < rage-> speaking of which, i must restart x 06:13 < Capso> Aegray: Howdy. 06:13 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool242-162.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:13 < aegray> hey 06:13 < courtc> AHH! 06:13 < macpod> lol 06:13 < courtc> I remember why I don't get any coding done when I'm on here. 06:13 < aegray> anyone know how to do precise timing (down to microsecond) in linux? 06:13 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool242-162.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:13 < aegray> i used to know 06:14 < macpod> Are you doing it via processing time or overall time? 06:14 < courtc> Capso: have at it. src/itdb.c 06:14 < Capso> Courtc: Alright, thanks. 06:14 < aegray> macpod: overall microseconds since i started 06:14 < courtc> Kingstone: linux and darwin. 06:15 < Capso> Aegray: You mean a more precise method than time { }? 06:15 < macpod> right, but are you taking into account real time, or the cpu time used for the specific app? 06:15 < Capso> Courtc: Didn't see Kingstone say anything. 06:15 < josh_> aegray: gettimeofday() 06:15 < aegray> josh_: its too slow 06:16 < aegray> maybe i'm doing it wrong 06:16 < aegray> but i have: 06:16 < aegray> gettimeofday(&tv, &tz); 06:16 < aegray> and then a check the same way i do on the ipod 06:16 < aegray> it returns tv.tv_usec 06:16 < aegray> i need something to replace (inl(IPOD_RTC)) 06:17 < Kingstone> Capso, me say what? 06:17 < josh_> aegray: why? 06:17 < aegray> for the pc 06:17 < aegray> :) 06:17 < josh_> ahh 06:17 < josh_> what's IPOD_RTC measured in? 06:17 < Capso> Kingstone: Courtc said something to you and I did not see you say anything before. 06:17 < aegray> i thought microsec 06:17 < aegray> i'm pretty sure 06:17 < Kingstone> well i did 06:18 < Capso> Ah, yes. 06:18 < Capso> I see. 06:18 < josh_> aegray: so what's wrong with gettimeofday() 06:18 < josh_> ? 06:18 < rage-> Zolly, you here? 06:18 < aegray> josh_: when i use it, everything is really slow 06:18 < aegray> which makes no sense 06:18 < aegray> unless the overhead of gettimeofday 06:18 < aegray> is too high 06:18 < josh_> shouldn't be 06:18 < Capso> Aegray: I think you might need access to the RTC directly. 06:18 < josh_> profile it. is the delay really in the time-getting function? 06:19 < josh_> Capso: this is on the PC, it works fine on the iPod 06:19 < Capso> Aegray: Perhaps some Assembly. 06:19 < aegray> eek! 06:19 < Capso> Josh_: Yea, I know what we're talking about. 06:19 < aegray> #ipodlinux.flood 06:23 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-83-197-67.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:23 < Zolly> rage- here 06:24 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-193-62.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 06:24 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 06:24 < rage-> did you delete the first wo lines of your sysinfo file? 06:24 -!- jebs419 [n=jebs@pool-70-111-160-226.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:24 < Zolly> first 2 06:24 < Zolly> yes 06:24 < Zolly> not delete, 06:24 < rage-> omit 06:24 < rage-> w/e 06:25 < Zolly> yea 06:25 < rage-> anyway 06:25 < rage-> aside from the region code 06:25 < rage-> we're identical 06:25 < Zolly> hmm 06:26 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-83-197-67.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ipodlinux ["nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana batman!"] 06:26 < macpod> yea, courtc is krunked.. 06:27 < Zolly> loll 06:29 < rage-> does ANYONE here have sash shell or movie playing (w or w/o audio) working on an ipod color? 06:29 < aegray> yes 06:30 < rage-> does sash work for you? 06:30 < rage-> as well 06:30 < macpod> which sash? 06:30 < josh_> macpod: the one with input support 06:30 < macpod> there are a few of those too ;D 06:30 < josh_> hmm 06:31 < josh_> I'm using the one linked on the Wiki (~[wiki sash]), and it works for me on a mono 4g 06:31 < iplbot> Sash (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Sash) [580 bytes] 06:31 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61 06:31 < macpod> That's the initial one 06:31 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/Sash 06:31 < macpod> That's the one someone modified so it acts like vi 06:32 < macpod> As for the video, make sure you are playing with a video file that has audio 06:32 < aegray> haha 06:32 < macpod> otherwise it freezes like ice 06:32 < aegray> i can fix it 06:32 < aegray> pretty easy 06:32 < rage-> ... 06:32 < rage-> well that's foolish 06:32 < aegray> it just gets thrown off later 06:32 < aegray> rage-: stfu 06:32 < rage-> NO 06:32 < rage-> U 06:33 < macpod> aegray, it would probably not be a bad idea to fix that ;D 06:33 < rage-> well that would explain why I'm freezing heh 06:33 < macpod> If only you could read rage.. 06:33 < rage-> read what 06:34 < rage-> I was talking directly with aegray yesterday about it 06:34 < rage-> he never told me 06:34 < aegray> eat it 06:34 < aegray> -> 06:34 < rage-> http://www.dotink.org/~gent/ipod-sash-1.1.2.tgz 06:34 < CIA-11> aegray * tools/podzilla/video/video.c: At your service macpod! Fixed the no audio video bug 06:34 < rage-> that link is dead 06:34 < macpod> eh, I'll reupload that later 06:34 < aegray> haha 06:34 < macpod> rage read the video page 06:34 < rage-> I read it a week ago 06:34 < aegray> erm - that should fix it 06:35 < rage-> I didn't find the need to read it again 06:35 < macpod> it was updated a few days ago.. read it again 06:35 < rage-> (as I was not informed it would freeze) 06:35 < macpod> specifically Line 47: Line 47: 06:35 < macpod> ===Sample Videos=== ===Sample Videos=== 06:35 < macpod> + '''''NOTE: These videos currently will not work - as they have no sound and there is a bug in the current version of the video player (to be fixed soon). Please check back again later, but for now, make sure that any video you try has sound.''''' 06:35 < macpod> Should have read.. 06:35 < rage-> will you just be quiet already? 06:35 < rage-> ffs you're a broken record 06:35 < rage-> you've said "should have read" like 5 times in the last minute 06:35 < macpod> and you are useless 06:36 < rage-> thx, you've been less than helpful yourself 06:36 < macpod> You can always leave if it bothers you 06:36 < rage-> I'm sick of being lectured in here heh 06:36 < rage-> some people are quite immature 06:36 < macpod> Nobody is telling you that you need to stay 06:36 < rage-> nor you 06:37 < macpod> Correct, but you see, I am not bothered, you on the otherhand appear to be. 06:37 < rage-> you're not bothered, you're bothersome ;) 06:38 < macpod> Then leave. Or stop this conversation, you are flooding the channel. 06:38 < Capso> Heh. 06:38 < macpod> aegray was it coincidence you just finished that patch now? 06:38 < Capso> Immaturity is no longer of question. 06:38 < rage-> you're the one who continues it... I asked you to leave me alone 5 minutes ago... 06:38 < aegray> macpod: i had it for a bit 06:38 < aegray> i just didn't commit it because if you watch a no audio one then an audio one, the audio gets out of sync for some reason 06:38 < aegray> and i couldn't figure out why 06:39 < macpod> Sounds like something is not getting reset 06:39 < aegray> yea i know 06:39 < rage-> aegray, what needs to be rebuilt now for that quick fix you just put in? 06:39 < Zolly> hm 06:39 < aegray> but i can't figure out what 06:39 < rage-> the kernel? 06:39 < aegray> rage-: podzilla 06:39 < Zolly> how hard would it be to put a keyboard interface on the ipod? 06:39 < rage-> is that available right now? 06:39 < josh_> Zolly: what generation? 06:39 < rage-> or does it take a while for cvs to update? 06:39 < aegray> in a few hours 06:39 < josh_> <= 3g: pretty easy 06:39 < rage-> :o 06:39 < josh_> > 4g: difficult 06:39 < aegray> once it shows up on booc.coob.org/ipl 06:39 < Zolly> i'm thinking a search engine 06:39 < Zolly> for songs =o 06:40 < rage-> hrm, why does it take a few hours to update? 06:40 < josh_> rage-: it's sourceforge 06:40 < josh_> their anoncvs lags pretty horribly 06:40 < rage-> sux 06:40 < rage-> aegray, did you link that gzipped video on the wiki? 06:41 < aegray> no 06:41 < rage-> is it still available? 06:42 < rage-> argh, you were on a diff nick when you pm'ed me o.0 06:42 * rage- scours his 85mb irc log folder 06:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o aegray ] by ChanServ 06:44 < rage-> eep 06:44 < aegray> talk shit again 06:44 < aegray> and you'll regret it 06:44 < rage-> still 9 megs 06:44 < rage-> 10 even 06:44 < Capso> Heh. 06:45 < aegray> >8-o 06:45 < Capso> Neat face. 06:45 < rage-> uh 06:45 < rage-> I hope you're kidding 06:45 < aegray> me? 06:45 < aegray> i'm power hungry 06:45 < Capso> :) 06:45 < aegray> and beligerent 06:45 < rage-> ? 06:45 < aegray> what are we kidding about? 06:46 < Capso> Aegray: Oh, oh, and you want power! 06:46 < Capso> :) 06:46 < rage-> to whom did I 'talk shit' o.0 06:46 < josh_> macpod 06:46 < Capso> Rage-: Macpod, myself, some others. 06:46 < aegray> haha 06:46 < rage-> no no no 06:46 < Capso> lmao 06:46 < rage-> I'm respectful of those who are respectful of me 06:46 < josh_> 23:35 < rage-> will you just be quiet already? 06:46 < josh_> 23:35 < rage-> ffs you're a broken record 06:46 < josh_> 23:35 < rage-> you've said "should have read" like 5 times in the last minute 06:46 < josh_> 23:36 < rage-> I'm sick of being lectured in here heh 06:46 < josh_> 23:36 < rage-> some people are quite immature 06:46 < rage-> you disrespected me Capso 06:46 < aegray> LOL 06:47 < Capso> I see how the wheel churns. 06:47 < josh_> rage-: it keeps the channel temperature lower if we can avoid lashing out against perceived affronts. 06:48 < Capso> Yep. 06:48 < Capso> Why not be proactive? 06:48 < rage-> josh_, it keeps me content if I'm not treated with disrespect by people who have no regaurd for other people. 06:48 < Capso> Rather than reactive to situations. 06:48 < Capso> Judgemental, are you. :) 06:48 < rage-> I've come here for a few answers to my questions 06:49 < josh_> rage-: understood that you may feel you were treated disrespectfully, but that doesn't mean you have to respond in kind. 06:49 < rage-> to gain insight into my areas of unfamilliarity 06:49 < josh_> that's not just directed at rage- by the way 06:49 < rage-> and I've tried to help those I thought I could 06:49 < aegray> ok seriously enough 06:49 < rage-> I've never sought out trouble 06:49 < Capso> Heh. 06:49 * josh_ steps out 06:50 < rage-> though some people have brought trouble to me... I apologise if my reaction wasn't too "cool" but as I've said, I don't take kindly to disrespect. 06:51 < Capso> Heh. 06:51 * cdm downloads xcode 2.1 for his laptop...and waits... 06:52 < macpod> I wish xcode would make switching from dev to deployment mode more obvious 06:52 < macpod> That extra menu option caught me for a while 06:53 < cdm> :) I don't use the IDE much. 06:54 < macpod> I like the autoindent. 06:54 < cdm> I use gvim for that sort of thing. 06:55 < macpod> Eh, that would not be bad, but I've grown too accustomed to using a mouse. Probably a bad habit. 06:55 < macpod> Does anyone have electrical audio circuit training here? Got a quick question, and it's unrelated to iPL 06:57 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:58 < stoppiebo> sup guys 06:59 < josh_> hi stoppiebo 06:59 < stoppiebo> hey i thought of a feature that would be nice 06:59 < josh_> 3 06:59 < josh_> er, nvm that 07:00 < stoppiebo> it would be cool if you could "minimize" the music that was playin 07:00 < stoppiebo> and browse the menus or play games with it still goin 07:00 < josh_> stoppiebo: ~[wiki mpdc\ 07:00 < josh_> er 07:00 < josh_> `wiki mpdc 07:00 < iplbot> MPD (http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD) [4731 bytes] 07:01 < stoppiebo> whats that 07:01 < josh_> exactly what you described 07:01 < rage-> speaking of mpd, are bad id3 tags the _only_ thing that could mess up the mpd database? 07:01 < josh_> rage-: bugs 07:02 < rage-> perhaps improper special character handling in file names? 07:02 < rage-> like apostrophes and such? 07:02 < josh_> might be 07:02 < josh_> I don't know. 07:02 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd0b2.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:02 < rage-> I believe all my id3 fields that weren't filled in got filled in with "UNKNOWN" by the program I used to put my music on my pod 07:03 < rage-> ipl without mpd recognizes all my artists/albums/songs flawlessly 07:03 < rage-> only mpd chokes :\ 07:03 < josh_> yeah, it's probably a bug in mpd 07:03 < Capso> ?! 07:03 < Capso> MPD hath no bugs. 07:03 < rage-> all I can think of is filename handling 07:03 < josh_> Capso: you didn't write it, you just wrote the tutorial 07:03 < josh_> right? 07:04 < josh_> and compiled it etc. 07:04 < josh_> is that correct? 07:04 < Capso> Josh_: But I stand-by MPD all the way. ;P 07:04 < Capso> Josh_: And I'm partly joking. 07:04 < josh_> I know :P 07:04 < aegray> bla 07:05 < aegray> how can it be easier to sync video on the ipod than it is on the pc? 07:05 < Capso> Josh_: Courtc wrote it... I wrote a pretty explanitory Howto that'll be back up very soon, and I Compiled MPDC with the CVS of iPod. 07:05 < josh_> cool 07:05 < josh_> aegray: rdtsc not working? 07:05 < Capso> So that people could access it without backtracking a couple versions. 07:05 < aegray> no because i have to do a divide which takes a while 07:05 < josh_> have you actually tried it? 07:05 < aegray> i should divide the number i get per sec by 1000000 (a million) to get the num/usec right? 07:06 < josh_> yeah 07:06 < aegray> yea its off 07:06 < josh_> well you lose about 6 digits of precision, might that be why? :P 07:06 < josh_> try doing nr/ms or something 07:06 < josh_> the divide itself won't be taking a long time, it's just the amount of precision you lose. 07:07 < aegray> yea true 07:07 < aegray> nr/ms? 07:07 < josh_> ticks per millisecond 07:08 < aegray> god i'm tired 07:08 < aegray> ok then if i have a certain X/ms 07:08 < aegray> how do I convert rdtsc to ms 07:08 < aegray> i can't think 07:09 < josh_> let's see 07:09 < josh_> math 101 07:09 < aegray> divide? 07:09 < josh_> you have rdtsc and rdtsc/ms 07:09 < aegray> that don't work 07:09 < josh_> you want ms 07:09 < josh_> right? 07:09 < aegray> yea 07:10 < josh_> rdtsc / (rdtsc/ms) = rdtsc * ms / rdtsc = ms 07:10 < josh_> divide 07:10 < aegray> yea not working though 07:10 < aegray> rdtsc/1500 is too slow 07:10 < josh_> really? did you try it? 07:10 < aegray> i have 3554448/ms by that test prog 07:10 < aegray> yes i tried it 07:10 -!- jebs419 [n=jebs@pool-70-111-160-226.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:10 < josh_> how often are you doing this division? 07:11 < aegray> a crapload 07:11 < aegray> its just 07:11 < aegray> t = timer_current(); 07:11 < aegray> display_frame(); 07:11 < josh_> make sure you're not dividing long longs 07:11 < josh_> that *is* slow 07:11 < aegray> while (timer_current() - t < usecs) 07:11 < josh_> but 32-bit div should be fine 07:15 < aegray> screw it i'm going back to usleep 07:15 < Capso> My sleep is better than usleep. 07:16 < Kingstone> look at this lol: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000337057889/ 07:16 < Kingstone> an ipod cemetery 07:22 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951BFE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:23 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD9519BAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:25 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [] 07:27 -!- guard952 [n=guard952@64.4.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [] 07:32 -!- rage__ [n=rage@0-2pool241-10.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:40 -!- cdm [n=cdm@adsl-69-224-12-33.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:45 -!- Zolly is now known as Zol|Sleep 07:49 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool242-162.nas4.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:56 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162046118.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 -!- davidc__ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:15 -!- davidc__ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 08:31 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10316.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:34 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10316.odn.de] has quit [Client Quit] 08:44 -!- Bofia [i=jonys@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:44 < Bofia> heyhey 08:46 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd591.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:52 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:53 < Bofia> so uh 08:53 < Bofia> who has linux on their ipod 08:53 < rage__> many of us 08:54 < Bofia> any info on linux on ipod nano 08:55 < Kingstone> Bofia 08:55 < Kingstone> you have nano 08:55 < Bofia> im getting one 08:55 < Kingstone> ? 08:55 < Bofia> well 08:55 < Kingstone> cool 08:55 < rage__> last I heard, it's *almost* working 08:55 < Bofia> im getting one as soon as nano is supported 08:55 < rage__> but as with the 4g's, it's unsupported :O 08:55 < Kingstone> they even got nano the developers? 08:55 < rage__> it most likely wont be supported for a while 08:55 < Kingstone> lol 08:55 < Kingstone> don't wait till it's supported 08:55 < Kingstone> yeah 08:55 < Bofia> well 08:55 < Kingstone> about a year from now 08:56 < Bofia> until a somewhat useful version exists 08:56 < Kingstone> wait a month and there will be 08:56 < Kingstone> well you can buy now 08:56 < Kingstone> you don't need to wait till then 08:56 < Bofia> lol 08:57 < Bofia> but 08:57 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:57 < Kingstone> yes? 08:57 < Bofia> i bet a new 08:57 < Bofia> generation is gonna come out 08:57 < Kingstone> lol 08:57 < Kingstone> in one month? 08:57 < Bofia> maybe 08:57 < Kingstone> don't think so 08:57 < Kingstone> well in 2006 for sure 08:58 < Kingstone> but you gonna wait 8 months? 08:58 < Kingstone> then look at this lol: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000337057889/ 08:58 < Kingstone> just for you 08:58 < Bofia> :( 08:59 < Bofia> 1g ipod nano is gonna be next 09:00 < Kingstone> but isn't this 1g? 09:00 < Bofia> ? 09:14 -!- Capso [n=guest@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:23 -!- Capso [n=guest@adsl-69-226-226-22.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 10:01 < Quarryman> ok.. I suppose this is interesting for a few people here.. http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=18890 First demo (as in demoscene) for ipod :-) 10:03 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-205-220.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 10:08 -!- Vikking [n=Vikking@ip-81-11-205-220.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:50 -!- nimmerchen [n=nimmerme@dsl-084-061-144-136.arcor-ip.net] has joined #iPodLinux 10:50 -!- junland [i=Prot@ip70-162-9-158.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:53 -!- fgt [i=Prot@ip70-162-9-158.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:16 -!- Dewi [i=dewi@203-173-20-164.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:17 < Dewi> I have a question about ipodder aggregator software. would that be OT here? 11:20 < Kingstone> what's OT? 11:21 < Dewi> off-topic 11:22 < Dewi> I've been using ipodder to aggregate podcasts. 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16:01 * aegray covers face in embarrassment 16:02 * aegray spells embarrassment wrong 16:03 < Quarryman> aegray: try 'cd -' 16:03 < aegray> sweet! 16:03 < aegray> thanks 16:03 < aegray> is there a cd + 16:03 < aegray> ? 16:03 < Quarryman> no idea 16:03 < aegray> k thnx 16:10 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162046118.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:10 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162046118.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 < DataGhost> aegray 16:55 < DataGhost> my bash book covers that :) 16:55 < DataGhost> and what do you mean by cd + ? 16:56 < DataGhost> if you do cd - 16:56 < DataGhost> you go to the prev directory 16:56 < DataGhost> if you do it again you go back where you came from 16:56 < DataGhost> if you do pushd /path/to/folder 16:56 < DataGhost> and again and agian 16:56 < DataGhost> you can go back the same way with popd 16:56 < DataGhost> :) 16:56 < DataGhost> those are build into bash but my bash book covers coding those yourself :) 16:57 < aegray> i mean if i do cd - 16:58 < aegray> can i then do something like cd + to go back where i came from? 16:58 < DataGhost> yea, do cd - again 16:58 < aegray> nm 16:58 < aegray> got it 16:58 < DataGhost> :) 16:58 < aegray> haha 16:58 < DataGhost> heh 16:58 < DataGhost> the pushd and popd are for a 'trip' so to say :) 16:58 < DataGhost> pffff 16:58 < DataGhost> stupid weekends 16:58 < aegray> you don't like weekends?? 16:58 < DataGhost> they should be shipping my max3232e max232 max212 and ds275 samples ffs 16:58 < DataGhost> yea i do 16:58 < DataGhost> but other people too :P 16:59 < DataGhost> i want the other people to keep working for me :) 16:59 < aegray> pushd takes an arg? 16:59 < DataGhost> yea 16:59 < DataGhost> and popd doesnt afaik 17:01 < DataGhost> too bad those things are in books only :) 17:01 < DataGhost> proves their value, too 17:01 -!- dlowder [n=doug@c-24-4-208-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:07 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:08 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dsl-082-082-086-043.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:10 < aegray> anyone good with X programming? 17:12 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 * rage__ turns and walks away from aegray 17:13 < aegray> o...k.... 17:15 < rage__> yeah that's right. 17:15 < aegray> o...k... 17:16 < rage__> you heard me! 17:16 < aegray> o...k... 17:16 < rage__> your period button will collapse soon! 17:16 < aegray> o...k... 17:17 < rage__> weirdo o.0 17:17 * aegray hovers over /mode +q 17:17 < rage__> you like making threats don't you? :) 17:17 < aegray> damn straight 17:17 < rage__> psh 17:18 < aegray> don't psh me 17:18 < rage__> pfft 17:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b %rage__!*@* ] by aegray 17:18 < aegray> eat shit 17:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b %rage__!*@* ] by aegray 17:19 < rage__> so yeah 17:19 < rage__> hows your video syncing coming mr. anger management? :x 17:20 -!- jesse [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 < aegray> good 17:20 < aegray> i have a pc version finally! 17:20 < jesse> does ipod linux work on my new ipod photo 20 gb, because online it seems to work, but i cant get it to 17:20 < aegray> yes 17:21 -!- rage__ is now known as rage- 17:22 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22 < rage-> aegray, so now you just have to get it to compile for ipod? 17:22 < rage-> er wait 17:22 < aegray> it already works for the ipod 17:22 < aegray> i just have a version for the pc now 17:22 < aegray> so i can test without having to copy to ipod and reboot ipod every time 17:22 < aegray> makes things easier 17:22 < rage-> ic 17:22 < rage-> when do plan on separating your video player from podzilla? 17:23 < aegray> this version is separated 17:23 < rage-> well I assumed that much 17:23 < rage-> since it's on your pc 17:23 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h54n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:23 < rage-> but when do you plan to separate it on the ipod? 17:23 < aegray> once this version is finished 17:24 < rage-> what goals do you have for that ver? video/audio sync, no crash after multiple movie views? 17:24 < rage-> hell, those are your only problems, aren't they? 17:24 < aegray> i think 17:24 < aegray> audio/video sync is close 17:24 < aegray> i have it all worked up already 17:24 < aegray> compression is the ultimate goal 17:25 < josh_> aegray: how'd you get it working on pc? 17:25 < Zolly> compression =o 17:25 < aegray> josh_: separated the big file into different parts then wrote in replacements for the pc 17:25 < aegray> so make PCVID=1 does a pc/Xwin version 17:25 < aegray> and make does an ipod version 17:25 < josh_> cool 17:25 < aegray> although - the sync on pc sucks 17:26 < aegray> because I never figured that out 17:26 < josh_> haha, ipod better than pc? 17:26 < aegray> yea 17:26 < aegray> it is 17:26 < aegray> although I coulda told you that 17:26 < josh_> RDTSC didn't work? 17:26 < aegray> because if i could run everything on my pc in monitor mode, i could make things a lot more exact 17:26 < josh_> did you look at the app: `arm-elf-run'? 17:26 < aegray> josh_: no 17:26 < aegray> maybe i messed it up 17:26 < josh_> er arm-uclinux-elf-run 17:26 < aegray> arm-elf-run? 17:26 < aegray> whats that? 17:26 < josh_> never tried it, but --help looks interesting 17:27 < josh_> it's included in the toolchain (at least the 3.4.3 one) apparently 17:27 < aegray> simulator? 17:27 < josh_> might be 17:27 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:27 < aegray> eh - i decided that this usleep method (usleep(microsecperframe - 1750)) works close enough 17:28 < aegray> and it'll help me figure out if my sync alg is working 17:29 < aegray> -Wall? 17:29 < aegray> or -WAll 17:29 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54888BD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54888BD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:29 < aegray> eep 17:29 < josh_> -Wall 17:30 < aegray> way too many warnings with -Wall 17:30 < josh_> haha 17:30 < josh_> try -Wall -Werror, that'll make your day 17:30 < josh_> :P 17:30 < stoppiebo> do you guys know if the nightlys will ever have MPD 17:30 < aegray> blow me 17:30 < aegray> bla 17:31 < aegray> damnit where is close() defined? 17:32 < aegray> its just so much pretier without -Wall 17:34 < josh_> #include 17:34 < josh_> #include 17:34 < josh_> #include 17:34 < josh_> #include 17:34 < josh_> that should do it 17:36 < jesse> how can i get ipodlinux to work on my ipod photo 20 gb 17:36 < DataGhost> :') 17:36 < aegray> with the directions 17:36 < jesse> i updated the podzilla and the kernel, and when i try to boot up, i just get the apple logo that stays there 17:36 < jesse> do i have to downgrade the firmware? 17:36 < DataGhost> oh lol nice 17:36 < DataGhost> i had that too 17:36 < DataGhost> put it indiskmode and restore it :) 17:36 < josh_> `reboot 17:36 < aegray> jesse which installer are you using? 17:36 < iplbot> reboot is <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from josh_] 17:36 < DataGhost> and follow the directions, they should be clear 17:36 < josh_> `disk mode 17:36 < iplbot> I assume you meant diskmode. diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from josh_] 17:37 < DataGhost> :) 17:37 < DataGhost> yea i had the apple logo too 17:37 < jesse> at first i used the 4g ipodlinux intaller, but then i did a special tutorial for the ipod photo 17:37 < DataGhost> took me a while to figure out all sites were giving 3g directions 17:37 < DataGhost> :) 17:37 < jesse> slow down 17:37 < jesse> what do i need to do? 17:38 < DataGhost> you need to put the original firmware on and stop trying to figure out ipodlinux if you can't figure this out :) 17:38 < DataGhost> the first step anyway ^^ 17:39 < DataGhost> the directions even cover the firmware version, so just as the wiki says.. if you cant get it to work with them you should probably wait for a nice installer that's guaranteed to work 17:39 < DataGhost> boring 17:39 < DataGhost> action + next doesnt do anything :) 17:40 < jesse> the original firmware on it i think was the newest one they've come out with 17:40 < DataGhost> yea thats about the first thing it tells you 17:41 < DataGhost> the newest firmware wont work 17:41 < DataGhost> you should really read CAREFULLY because i missed some things at first too 17:41 < DataGhost> so i ended up with a 1/2/3g firmware image 17:41 < DataGhost> instead of a 4g image 17:42 < stoppiebo> is it possible to whisper to a user on irc 17:42 < DataGhost> whisper? 17:42 < DataGhost> private message? 17:42 < stoppiebo> i could help him out im a noob too... 17:42 < stoppiebo> yeah pm 17:42 < DataGhost> .. 17:42 < jesse> how do u downgrade the firmware 17:42 < DataGhost> /query and /msg :) /query is probably client-specific... 17:42 < jesse> for the ipod photo 17:42 < DataGhost> but he should rtfm :) 17:42 < DataGhost> jesse google downgrade ipod firmware :) 17:42 < DataGhost> or i could help you out on this one 17:42 < jesse> i did read it 17:42 < DataGhost> eh 17:42 < DataGhost> btw 17:42 < DataGhost> it doesnt boot now 17:42 < josh_> DataGhost: you don't need to downgrade the firmware 17:43 < DataGhost> oh 17:43 < josh_> that's a persistent myth 17:43 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC9BDA57.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:43 < DataGhost> why is it on there then :) 17:43 < DataGhost> on the wiki 17:43 < josh_> because it's persistent :P 17:43 < josh_> and anyone can edit the wiki 17:43 < DataGhost> newest firmware sucks anyway :) on my 4g it breaks usb support 17:43 < DataGhost> m k 17:43 < DataGhost> sorry the :P 17:43 < DataGhost> n 17:43 -!- bholland [n=bholland@s207-81-155-20.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:43 < josh_> you can try it anyway, but it *shouldn't* make a difference 17:44 < DataGhost> lots of j-people in here anyay :) 17:44 < hyarion> wow, I just tried gasman's ipod demo 17:44 < hyarion> it's awesome 17:45 < virtualball_> hyarion: whats hid demo? 17:45 < virtualball_> *his 17:45 < hyarion> podfather 17:45 < virtualball_> where is it, lol 17:45 < DataGhost> and what is it :P 17:46 < DataGhost> what does it do ^^ 17:46 < virtualball_> im guessing maybe a vid? 17:46 < DataGhost> myea maybe :) 17:46 < DataGhost> dunno 17:46 < DataGhost> podzilla isnt a vid either is it? :) 17:47 < aegray> wha? 17:48 < hyarion> http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=18890 17:48 < stoppiebo> rtfm thats funny i didnt know that one. i like UTFG 17:48 < DataGhost> :) 17:48 < DataGhost> i dont know that one stoppiebo 17:48 < DataGhost> use the f.. 17:48 < DataGhost> ? 17:48 < DataGhost> g=? :) 17:48 < DataGhost> oh wait.. google? :P 17:49 < DataGhost> aegray you do know what podzilla and podfather have in common when it comes to movies aight? :) 17:49 < stoppiebo> yeah google :) 17:49 < aegray> i don't know what podfather is? 17:49 < DataGhost> me neither 17:49 < josh_> `google podfather 17:49 < iplbot> Wired News: Audience With the Podfather (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,67525,00.html): They call him the Podfather. Once best known as a star veejay on MTV, Adam Curry 17:49 < DataGhost> virtualball_ guessed it was a vid because it's like godfather which is a movie 17:49 < DataGhost> same goes for podzilla ;P 17:50 < virtualball_> ya 17:50 < jesse> i can't find anything on how to downgrade the firmware 17:50 < DataGhost> jesse 17:50 < rage-> just download the old firmware and do a restore 17:50 < DataGhost> since it doesnt boot now you can 17:50 < DataGhost> yea 17:50 < DataGhost> ^^ 17:50 < rage-> back up the contents of your ipod before doing so 17:50 < rage-> it wipes it clean 17:51 < virtualball_> I thought that was a rumor, that u need to downgrade the firmware, or am i stupid 17:51 < rage-> nope 17:51 < rage-> no rumor 17:51 < rage-> I had to 17:51 < DataGhost> i still dunno what to think of it :P 17:51 < rage-> I jacked up my ipod, did a restore with the 6-26 or w/e 17:51 < rage-> and then couldn't get ipl back on it 17:51 < aegray> on a 4g - yes 17:51 < rage-> had to put 3-23 on 17:51 < aegray> on a photo- no 17:51 < DataGhost> ah 17:51 < DataGhost> see! :P 17:51 < rage-> on a photo what no 17:52 < rage-> er 17:52 < rage-> photo no what 17:52 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:52 < ehh> how come when i restored the backup with the installer, all the linux folders remain on my ipod? 17:53 < ehh> i made a backup so i wouldent have to restore the ipod and loose all music 17:53 < jesse> what version of firmware does it need to be? 17:53 < rage-> 2005-03-23 17:53 < rage-> aegray, on a photo- no what 17:54 < hyarion> DataGhost: it's not a vid it's an oldschool demo (as in demo scene) 17:55 < DataGhost> oh k :P 17:55 < aegray> did he port that or just write a whole anim sequence? 17:55 < ehh> how come the backup wont restore 17:55 < ehh> like linux wont boot anymore but all the folders are still on the ipod 17:56 < rage-> I wouldn't imagine the backup in whatever program you used would change the partition table 17:56 < rage-> which leaves your linux partition intact 17:56 < rage-> just removes the linux kernel from your firmware 17:56 < ehh> kk 17:57 < ehh> when you save your settings on ipodlinux where does that file save so i could just add it to my ipod when ever i reinstall linux, so i would not have to keep redoing my setting 17:57 < ehh> s 17:58 < rage-> in podzilla? 17:58 < rage-> in the settings menu? 17:58 < rage-> /etc/podzilla.conf 17:58 < ehh> yeah 17:58 < ehh> kk 17:58 < rage-> you use linux or windows? 17:58 < ehh> windows 17:59 < rage-> hrmf 17:59 < rage-> how were you planning on backing it up? :) 17:59 < ehh> huh? i just wanted to copy that file so whenever i did a fresh install i can add that file this way i would not have to redo my settings 17:59 < rage-> do you know much about "start" files? 18:00 < ehh> um i no how to create one 18:00 < rage-> ok 18:00 < jesse> i cant find the firmware downgrade online 18:00 < rage-> well with windows, you'll have to use them to get your podzilla.conf file 18:00 < rage-> (and to put it back in the future, if you so choose) 18:00 < rage-> to get it, make one that says: 18:00 -!- virtualball__ [n=oijfp@AC963438.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:01 < rage-> cp /etc/podzilla.conf /hp/ 18:01 < rage-> rm /hp/start 18:01 < rage-> and to put it back: 18:01 < rage-> cp /hp/podzilla.conf /etc/ 18:01 < ehh> so what will that do? copy it where? 18:01 < rage-> rm /hp/start 18:01 < rage-> that will copy it to the ipod drive as it shows up in windows 18:01 < rage-> jesse, gimme a minute and I'll find the link for you 18:01 < ehh> the first one? what does that do 18:02 < rage-> first copies it to your ipod drive 18:02 < rage-> second copies it from your ipod drive into place (if you reinstall you will want to do this) 18:02 < ehh> oooo got yeah 18:02 < ehh> i c 18:03 < rage-> jesse, http://content.info.apple.com/iPod/ww/win/061-1679.20050324.PdWDs/iPodSetup.exe 18:05 < virtualball__> Was podfather written in SDL? And is there available source 18:06 < jesse> where can i download hte old ipod firmware? 18:06 < jesse> for apple 18:06 < aegray> softpedia.com 18:06 < rage-> jesse 18:06 < rage-> I just gave you a link 18:06 < hyarion> I haven't found any src for it 18:06 < jesse> yah 18:06 < ehh> rage-: can you help me with this you no nxsnake or connect4 its on my ipod drive but i cant get it into the extra game folder on podzilla so i cant play i 18:06 < ehh> it 18:06 -!- Z_Dude [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 18:07 -!- Z_Dude [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:07 < hyarion> and it doesn't contain the string "SDL" so I guess not 18:07 -!- Z_Dude [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 18:09 -!- Blue_AudiTT [n=datafull@cpe-68-203-245-173.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 < Blue_AudiTT> anybody home ? 18:09 < aegray> no 18:09 < jesse> where can i get the right ipod firmware for mac 18:10 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/FAQ 18:10 < rage-> sorry ehh I dunno how to help that :| 18:10 < Blue_AudiTT> my screen froze on a podzilla boot 18:10 < Blue_AudiTT> know how to get out of that > 18:10 < Blue_AudiTT> ? 18:10 < aegray> `reboot 18:10 < iplbot> reboot is <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from aegray] 18:10 < aegray> `diskmode 18:10 < iplbot> diskmode is reboot, then immediately, when the ipod turns on again (apple logo appears), press and hold <=3g: ff+rew >=4g: center/action + play [from aegray] 18:11 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:11 < Blue_AudiTT> thanks 18:13 -!- Eko [n=Eko@user-12l2fjm.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:13 < stoppiebo> so will diskmode always work or is it possible to mess that up too 18:13 < virtualball__> aegray, do you know why 2bppconv always (or mostly) blows your file up to 1 gig at the last frame, if not its ok 18:13 < virtualball__> stoppiebo: always 18:14 < aegray> at the last frame? 18:14 < aegray> what do you mean? 18:14 < virtualball__> ya 18:14 < aegray> there was a question there. 18:14 < virtualball__> it shows all the frames flying by but then on the last one it juststopes, for like 10 min. then it finishes, but ur 30 second vieo is now one gig 18:15 < aegray> dunno 18:15 < virtualball__> o ok 18:15 < virtualball__> and, Ive never used Mencoder before, does it always have those lines in the video? 18:15 < aegray> lines? 18:16 < virtualball__> like virtical black lines 18:16 < aegray> all over the place or on the edges? 18:16 < jesse> i cant find the 3-23 firmware for mac anywhere 18:16 < virtualball__> like straight down your video 18:16 < aegray> i've never seen that 18:16 < aegray> post a screenshot 18:16 < virtualball__> Jesse, do you hav a apple store near you? 18:16 < virtualball__> ok lemme get my scanner up 18:17 < jesse> yeah 18:17 < jesse> why 18:17 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 18:17 < virtualball__> go there, plug ipod in take updater 18:17 < virtualball__> thats what i did 18:18 -!- virtualball_ [n=oijfp@AC9BDA57.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:18 < jesse> it looks like in the updater that is on my computer, if u go into package contents, it hass all the updates there, but i dont know which is which 18:22 < virtualball__> damn my scanner doesnt pick up the pictures on the screen 18:22 -!- fire [n=moogle@S0106001217e1e98d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 < josh_> virtualball__: PrtScr on windows, `import foo.png' on linux 18:22 < aegray> hmm anyone ever used viewcvs? 18:22 < josh_> aegray: yep, but only as a used 18:23 < josh_> *user 18:23 < aegray> i can't get it to show my files 18:23 < josh_> no idea there 18:23 < jesse> virtualball... do u have that firmware update? 18:23 < aegray> it says "NOTE: There are 24 files, but none match the current selection criteria." 18:23 < aegray> so none of them show up 18:24 < DataGhost> it ate your files 18:24 < DataGhost> :) 18:24 < virtualball__> joshk: what Jesse: 29 MB and a 56k line, not good lol 18:24 < aegray> ah beautiful 18:24 < jesse> ? 18:24 < josh_> vb_: please don't discuss how to get the updater from one person to another in here, it's technically illegal. if you want to do it, take it to /msg. 18:24 < fire> so any developers attempt to run linux on that nano? or do they require donations ;P 18:25 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 18:25 < DataGhost> :P 18:26 < aegray> we want donations! 18:27 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 -!- jaebird [n=jae@208.184.145.65] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:27 < ehh> rage-: ok i was able to get podzilla.conf file to the hdd now how to i put it back what was the start command again 18:27 < virtualball__> josh_: he asked me about it, i thought he ment if I culd give it to him 18:27 < josh_> exactly, which is technically illegal 18:27 < aegray> Yay: kinda - http://www.aegray.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ 18:28 < josh_> do you have anything else on that server? 18:28 < josh_> "Forbidden. You don't have permission to access / on this server." 18:28 < ehh> is rage- still here? 18:28 < virtualball__> you have your own website aegray? 18:28 < rage-> ya 18:28 < josh_> aegray: what's gator? 18:29 < aegray> the video player 18:29 < fire> hmmm I guess no one has tried the nano bootloader thingy yet 18:29 < virtualball__> ya what is gator? 18:29 < aegray> /new version 18:29 < virtualball__> o sorry 18:29 < ehh> rage- what was the thing i put in the start file again to put podzilla.conf back 18:29 < ehh> was it this? cp /hp/podzilla.conf /ect/podzilla.conf 18:29 < ehh> rm /hp/podzilla.conf 18:29 < rage-> no 18:29 < ehh> kk 18:29 < rage-> cp /hp/podzilla.conf /etc/ 18:30 < virtualball__> aaegray, is that the one that plays MPEg1? :D 18:30 < ehh> thanks 18:31 < aegray> hahahaha...no 18:31 * aegray afk 18:31 < virtualball__> damn, lol, whats afk men? lol 18:31 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:31 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p54889E72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:31 < virtualball__> And whats different about gator? 18:34 < fire> virtualball__ "Away From Keyboard" 18:34 < virtualball__> Oh ok thnx 18:37 < virtualball__> Ok i got a screencap, i took it on my phone, :P 18:38 < joshk> grr 18:38 < joshk> virtualball__: make sure you realize what you're tabcompleting 18:38 < virtualball__> tabcompleting? 18:38 < joshk> you keep talking to me instead of josh_ 18:39 < virtualball__> oh lol 18:39 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:39 < virtualball__> sorry thats my bad typing skills 18:39 -!- Z_Dude is now known as Z_Man 18:40 < virtualball__> anyways, the lines that mencoder adds to my vids, look hard, its hard to c on a phone 18:40 < virtualball__> http://x4.putfile.com/9/25313372597.jpg 18:40 -!- ehh [n=asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 18:40 < Blue_AudiTT> is there a channel dedicated to 4G pods ? 18:41 < josh_> nope 18:41 < josh_> just this one 18:41 < Blue_AudiTT> oh ok 18:41 < Blue_AudiTT> anyone in here have a 4g ? 18:41 < josh_> virtualball__: looks like normal 2-bit dithering to me 18:42 < josh_> Blue_AudiTT: me 18:42 < Blue_AudiTT> the 60gb ? 18:42 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 < josh_> 20gb, b&w 18:42 < virtualball__> joshk: you mean theres supposed to be those lines? 18:42 < josh_> josh_? 18:42 < josh_> :-) 18:43 < josh_> virtualball__: is this for a mono iPod? 18:43 < virtualball__> Blue_AudiTT: i have the same as Josh*_* 18:43 < virtualball__> yes 18:43 < Blue_AudiTT> is the 60gb considered 4g ? 18:43 < josh_> color screen? 18:43 < Blue_AudiTT> yes 18:43 < virtualball__> then yes 18:43 < virtualball__> i believe 18:43 < josh_> virtualball__: yeah, those are to be expected after 2bppconv, but not before 18:43 < nimmerchen> virtualball__: http://www.confidence-mag.de/_data/video-sound/video-sound.mov ;) 18:43 < josh_> Blue_AudiTT: no, it's considered "photo" 18:44 < Blue_AudiTT> so its not supported then ? 18:44 -!- Capso [n=guest@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:44 < virtualball__> i didnt have it befor, or is it just because of sound 18:44 < josh_> correct 18:44 < josh_> but you may be able to get it to work 18:44 < josh_> virtualball__: no idea 18:44 < josh_> shouldn't be just because of sound 18:44 < Blue_AudiTT> any sites u reccomend i visit ? 18:44 < josh_> try making one w/o sound and seeing if it works 18:44 < josh_> http://www.ipodlinux.org/ 18:45 < josh_> ~[wiki photo] 18:45 < iplbot> Photo (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Photo) [1561 bytes] 18:45 < virtualball__> ive made 14 vids w/o sound and they looked good 18:45 < josh_> virtualball__: hm,no idea then 18:45 < virtualball__> damn, lol, well i always used QT b4 but now i use mencoder, so maybe its mencoder 18:46 < Blue_AudiTT> how did this guy install linux on his photo 18:46 < virtualball__> or the new 2bppconv, but ahh what ever 18:46 < Blue_AudiTT> i installed it but it froze on me 18:46 < josh_> by following the directions 18:46 < josh_> very very precisely 18:46 < Blue_AudiTT> let me try again 18:48 < virtualball__> josh_: (notice the _) I thought photo is 4G, or is just a seprate type of 4g? 18:48 -!- zsr [i=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 < josh_> sometimes "4g" means "4g, photo, mini, and anything above." 18:48 < josh_> sometimes it just means "4g" 18:48 < josh_> in general I use "4g+" to refer to the first definition. 18:48 < rage-> and other times it means "for my g" 18:49 < virtualball__> Oh, Cuz i was wonderin, the photos the 5G?!? 18:50 < josh_> actually, if you want to give everything a number: 18:50 < jesse> will the newer itunes work with the older ipod firmware? 18:50 < josh_> 1/2/3g is 1/2/3. mini 1g is 4. 4g is 5. photo/color is 6. mini 2g is 7. nano is C. 18:50 < virtualball__> yes 18:50 < virtualball__> C? lol 18:51 < josh_> yeah, someone at apple broke tradition with that one 18:51 < josh_> I'm just using the first digit of boardHwSwRev or something in the sysinfo file 18:51 < virtualball__> o lol, they also broke tradition withthe commercial, lol 18:51 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:52 < jesse> someone pleez tell me where to get the apple firmware 3-23 for mac 18:52 < virtualball__> dunnp 18:53 < Daishi> you should have made a backup 18:53 < virtualball__> lol 18:54 < Daishi> and it would be illegal to give you it 18:55 < Daishi> apple gave nano a letter as a versioning number? 18:55 < Daishi> "New nano firmware: C.B" 18:56 < jesse> what would make that illegal, apple's ipod software is free 18:56 < Daishi> it is only allowed to be distributed on iPods and apple's website 18:56 < Daishi> it is far from free 18:57 < jesse> aren't all of the ipod versions inside the ipod updater program package? 18:58 < fgt> jesse I'll send it to you because legality has always been a dumb excuse for not helping someone 18:58 < jesse> sorry, but i am a mac user 18:58 < jesse> but thanks anyways 18:58 < fgt> hmm, well thats a good excuse for not helping someone :) 18:58 < fgt> sorry 19:00 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 19:00 < virtualball__> well im a mac user, but not following the law is always a good excuse for getting slapped with a fine 19:00 < josh_> `google ipod updater 2005-03-23 19:00 < iplbot> Apple - iPod - Download (http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/): iPod Updater 2005-09-06 includes new iPod Software 1.0 for iPod nano. iPod Updater 19:00 < fgt> yea cause you just know apple is in here monitoring the conversation 19:01 < josh_> fgt: one person who frequents this channel does work for apple 19:01 < virtualball__> ya nvr no 19:01 < josh_> although he's not here right now 19:01 < josh_> there might be someone else who is 19:01 < josh_> etc. 19:01 < virtualball__> lol owned 19:01 < DataGhost> greetings to aegray 19:01 < DataGhost> :) 19:01 < fgt> and I bet hes just storing ips and sending them to collections right? 19:01 < josh_> no, but he's likely to frown on any sort of illegal activity 19:01 < virtualball__> fgt calm down 19:01 < fgt> and that matters somehow I'm sure 19:01 < fgt> don't call me a fgt 19:01 < josh_> haha 19:01 < josh_> it's your nick 19:02 < fgt> oh right 19:02 < josh_> if you don't want to be called that, change your nick 19:02 < josh_> ~[pirates]. enough said. 19:02 < virtualball__> lol 19:02 < josh_> ~pirates 19:02 < iplbot> Please do not discuss pirating software or media here. We don't want that kind of attention brought upon the project. Take your discussion elsewhere, or better yet, don't pirate things at all... [from josh_] 19:02 < josh_> there 19:03 < virtualball__> hmm thats strange 19:04 < Daishi> ~ipods 19:04 < Daishi> aww 19:04 < Daishi> hehehe 19:04 < virtualball__> y does it say that the 4g's firmware is 3.0.2 but in the package it only has 3.2.5 19:04 < nimmerchen> ~pimp 19:04 < nimmerchen> iplbot: I may only be used in the channel by developers. 19:04 < nimmerchen> [21:04] iplbot: The potential for annoyance is too great. Feel free 19:04 < fgt> ~fgt 19:04 < nimmerchen> [21:04] iplbot: to communicate with me via /msg, however. 19:04 < nimmerchen> hahaha 19:05 -!- virtualball__ is now known as iplbot_ 19:05 < iplbot_> lol 19:06 -!- iplbot_ is now known as virtualball 19:07 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:10 -!- Appelmoes [i=appel@83.98.167.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:13 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd591.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 19:15 < Daishi> virtualball: apple uses 500 different numbers for the same piece of software 19:15 < Daishi> its crazy 19:15 < Daishi> *it's 19:16 < virtualball> o, sry i just exploded a hotdog 19:19 < virtualball> josh_: when I do ./configure on some sources it asks me for my system, is there a host system for the iPod? 19:24 -!- jesse [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:29 -!- corpix [n=corpix@p54BDFF1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 < stoppiebo> when converting for the video player the input video should already be avi, correct? 19:37 < Daishi> the input can be anything your encoder supports as an input format 19:37 < Daishi> which should mean more than just avi 19:37 < stoppiebo> is there a way to find which are supported 19:37 < aegray> no 19:38 < stoppiebo> nice :) 19:38 < aegray> erm 19:38 < aegray> yes 19:38 -!- jesse [n=jessegol@c-24-147-209-246.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:38 < aegray> anyone objecting to gator? 19:39 < jesse> ipodlinux does work on the 20 gb ipod photo 19:39 < aegray> YES IT DOES 19:39 < aegray> erm 19:39 < aegray> yes it does 19:39 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@adsl-69-226-212-87.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 19:39 < aegray> hey Capso 19:39 < jesse> but the firmware needs to be downgraded? 19:39 < aegray> howdeeeeee 19:39 < aegray> jesse: no 19:39 < aegray> not afaik 19:39 < Capso> Aegray: Howdee, padna. 19:39 < aegray> whats padna? 19:39 < Capso> Aegray: Padna == Chinese accent of "partner" 19:40 < aegray> ah 19:40 < Capso> Aegray: I R teh happy. 19:40 < Daishi> stoppiebo: read the docs on the encoder youre using 19:40 < Capso> Aegray: I got this Slack Box to finally work with meh DSL Modem! 19:40 < Capso> W00t! 19:40 < aegray> NICE 19:40 < Daishi> for mencoder that's man mencoder 19:40 < Capso> Aegray: Now I can put up all meh other Machines! 19:41 < Capso> -- Right after I upgrade iptables. 19:41 < Capso> :) 19:41 < Daishi> pppoe? 19:41 < Capso> And the cow went, "Bump - bump - bump" 19:41 < Capso> Daishi: Correct 19:41 < Capso> Thing is... localhost was all butchered because of iptables. 19:41 < Capso> So, I couldn't ping shiite. 19:42 < Capso> 'iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT' ish teh y0r friend. 19:44 < aegray> ok gator is where i'm going with it 19:44 < aegray> and no one can stop me! 19:44 < aegray> muhhuhahahah 19:44 < Daishi> pppoe was easy to setup when i had dsl 19:44 < Capso> Daishi: Very easy... but that's not the point. 19:45 < Capso> It was localhost which was butchered. 19:45 < Daishi> oo k 19:45 < jesse> what do i ahve to do to get it to work on my ipod photo?? 19:45 < Daishi> install it? 19:46 < Daishi> what OS are you on? there is even an installer for every major os 19:46 < jesse> i am in tiger 19:46 < Daishi> theres a macosx installer 19:46 < nimmerchen> aegray: can i speed up the mapping? so that there is not this 0.5 sec white screen before renders the new window? is there any solution to smoth this? 19:47 < jesse> and i do use the installer, but when i try to boot into linux i get the apple logo, and linux doesnt load 19:47 < aegray> nimmerchen: .5sec white screen? 19:47 < aegray> when its loading? 19:47 < nimmerchen> 0.5 sec 19:47 < aegray> before it starts playing the vid? 19:47 < aegray> or before it maps the window 19:48 < nimmerchen> its also in the podzilla menu when you look at. every new window that is mapped you could count cause the screen goes white 19:48 < Capso> IPTables will take teh forever to be Compiled and Installed. 19:48 < nimmerchen> no nothing to do with video 19:48 < aegray> nimmerchen: not sure 19:48 < jesse> why won't it work on my ipod? 19:48 < aegray> i'm not even sure what your talking about 19:48 < aegray> jesse it will 19:48 < aegray> use the 4g installer 19:48 < nimmerchen> but anyhow the video play the frames and renders them so fast that you dont see them change as in the menu 19:48 < Capso> Aegray: He's talking about the zoom thing, I think. 19:49 < aegray> zoom? 19:49 < Capso> Not sure. 19:49 * aegray is soooo lost 19:49 < Capso> Drunkee. 19:49 < Capso> Silly Aegray, only drunks get lost. 19:49 < jesse> aegray, i used the 4g installer 19:49 < jesse> is it not working because of the firmware? 19:49 < aegray> no 19:50 < jesse> then what am i doing wrong? 19:50 < jesse> i updated podzilla nd the kernel 19:50 < aegray> try the 4g installer without updating nightlies 19:50 < aegray> just the base 19:50 < aegray> you probably updated the kernel wrong 19:50 < jesse> i tried that, and it didnt work either 19:50 < aegray> i dunno then 19:50 < aegray> wait 19:50 < aegray> you downloaded the 4g installer directly 19:50 < aegray> and did everything it said? 19:51 < jesse> yeah 19:51 < aegray> because I guarantee it works 19:51 < jesse> i used the one made for os x 19:51 < aegray> i've done it a billion times 19:51 < aegray> oh - i dunno 19:51 < aegray> i don't have osx so i can't help you 19:51 < Capso> ;P 19:51 < jesse> u dont have to do anything with the firmware? 19:51 < Capso> No! 19:51 < Capso> Just hack it. 19:52 < jesse> ok... 19:53 < aegray> whats the command to insert text at the beginning of a file? 19:54 < aegray> echo "xjkfls" >> file? 19:54 < Capso> That's end, if I remember correctly. 19:54 < aegray> whats beginning 19:54 < aegray> ? 19:55 -!- ZeroSlayer [i=Zero@adsl3-101-82.du.simnet.is] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 < Capso> Use ed? 19:56 < ZeroSlayer> hello 19:56 < aegray> bla 19:56 < aegray> hello 19:56 < ZeroSlayer> one question 19:56 < aegray> two question 19:56 < ZeroSlayer> he lol 19:56 * virtualball went to watch TV for 10 min. and now hes lost :P 19:56 < ZeroSlayer> if i install linux to my 20gb photo ipod, will i be able to watch movies? 19:57 < aegray> yes 19:57 < Capso> ... 19:57 < Capso> *Sigh.* 19:57 < ZeroSlayer> ok 19:57 < aegray> take it to #ipodlinux.sigh 19:57 < ZeroSlayer> me? 19:57 < aegray> did you sigh? 19:58 < ZeroSlayer> sorry 19:58 < Capso> ;P 19:58 < ZeroSlayer> ok i am a total newb in this ipod thig 19:58 < ZeroSlayer> thing 19:59 < ZeroSlayer> do i download the windows installer? 19:59 < nimmerchen> how could we know that? 19:59 < aegray> yes 4g installer 19:59 -!- GetInline1 [n=aldfj@pcp09728606pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:59 < Capso> You *could* read the Wiki... 19:59 < Capso> It IS intended for newbies... 19:59 < Capso> So that they don't bother with such questions. 20:00 < nimmerchen> allways an optimist ;) 20:00 < ZeroSlayer> "4G is Unsupported" 20:00 < Capso> Means we can't help you with it. :) 20:00 < Capso> So, read Wiki I suppose. 20:01 < ZeroSlayer> my ipod is 4g right? 20:02 < Capso> ... 20:02 < ZeroSlayer> ok 20:02 < ZeroSlayer> where do i find the wiki? 20:03 < ZeroSlayer> search for iPodLinux. on wikipedia.org ? 20:03 < nimmerchen> : / look in the topic 20:03 < masquerade> /topic #ipodlinux 20:03 < nimmerchen> how you get here? 20:04 < aegray> arg in cvs is it $Id: or $Id: $ 20:04 < aegray> ? 20:05 < ZeroSlayer> sorry 20:05 < ZeroSlayer> unsupported means that it may work an may not work? 20:05 < aegray> unsupported means we don't want to have to help you 20:06 < Capso> Aegray: Then everything is unsupported. 20:06 < aegray> i wish 20:06 < Capso> ... 20:06 < nimmerchen> we need smarter bots 20:06 < Capso> Aegray: You HAVE to help people with say, 2G? 20:07 < ZeroSlayer> hmmm why is 4G not supported? 20:07 < aegray> because we're lazy 20:07 < aegray> Capso: technically 20:07 < Capso> ZeroSlayer: Underdeveloped... don't ask, just read the shitting wiki. 20:08 < Capso> Aegray: So, if someone asks something about 2G, you are obliged to an answer? 20:08 < aegray> a lot more so than a 4g 20:08 < aegray> unsupported means you aren't supposed to ask questions 20:08 < aegray> because we're still developing on it 20:09 < nimmerchen> can i run psp games on g2? : ) 20:09 < Capso> Yea, but you don't *have* to answer anything... 20:09 < aegray> no not really 20:09 < Capso> Or do you get out of the Developer 20:09 < aegray> i just leave the room 20:09 < Capso> Or do you get out of the Developer's loop if you don't?* 20:09 < aegray> we don't *have* to do anything 20:09 < Capso> Like I said. 20:09 < aegray> its just we're more willing to take questions on something that has an installer written made for it 20:10 < aegray> not some unsupported installer 20:10 < josh_> 12:18 < virtualball> josh_: when I do ./configure on some sources it asks me for my system, is there a host system for the 20:10 < aegray> that needs specail work 20:10 < josh_> iPod? 20:10 < josh_> virtualball: arm-elf 20:10 < aegray> get it? 20:10 < Capso> Alright. 20:10 < Capso> Yes, I understand. 20:10 < aegray> if there was a good 4g installer that didn't require work to update nightlies, i'd be more willing to help 20:11 < ZeroSlayer> how long does it take you think until it gets developed enough so you will "support" it 20:11 < ZeroSlayer> how long did it take with oteher gens? 20:11 < nimmerchen> =) the osx gui installer does 20:11 < Capso> Years, maybe months. 20:12 < Capso> No one found that funny? :/ 20:14 < Vanquisher> nope 20:15 < jesse> why won't it work?????? 20:15 < Vanquisher> you didnt love it enough 20:15 < jesse> i can't love it if it doesnt work 20:16 < Capso> Erm... 20:16 < Capso> I can't ping anything. 20:16 < Capso> WTF/ 20:16 < aegray> ping Capso 20:16 < Capso> pong, peach. 20:16 < iplbot> Chirp. 20:17 -!- macpod [n=macpod@hc6524b7b.dhcp.vt.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:17 < Capso> Chirp. 20:20 < jedix> quiet 20:20 < Capso> Chirp. 20:28 < corpix> Capso: hi, do you have your mpd binary online somewhere ? floydzilla included mpd, but the cpu load is very high with it. 20:28 < qwertykd> pff 20:28 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:30 < Daishi> oo audio works?!! 20:30 < Daishi> neat! 20:31 < aegray> wha?? 20:32 -!- macpod [n=macpod@hc6524b7b.dhcp.vt.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:32 < ZeroSlayer> does .gif work on ipods? 20:33 < aegray> i think 20:33 < ZeroSlayer> so i can watch moving .gif 20:33 < ZeroSlayer> animations? 20:34 < aegray> no 20:34 < ZeroSlayer> :/ 20:34 < ZeroSlayer> but with linux installed i could? 20:35 < aegray> huh? 20:35 < aegray> you can watch movies 20:35 < aegray> not gif 20:35 < ZeroSlayer> ok 20:35 < ZeroSlayer> just wondering about the gifs 20:35 < corpix> Daishi: hi, how's it going ? 20:36 < corpix> what audio works ? 20:36 -!- JoyFM [i=JoyFM@dsl-082-082-086-043.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["13:21:16 !Admiral jo cool... also dat geht schonma.. dat problem is jetz nur rauszufinden wieso et nich geht"] 20:36 < corpix> ZeroSlayer: you could encode your gif as avi and play it 20:37 < ZeroSlayer> yea 20:37 < ZeroSlayer> i was wondering if it was possible to do the other thing around 20:37 < ZeroSlayer> but ofc with no sound 20:37 < ZeroSlayer> :Þ 20:37 < aegray> ofc? 20:37 -!- nilson [n=tacomast@pcp03331736pcs.tsclos01.al.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 < corpix> ok, just to make that clear: "malloc failed" wont appear anymore ? 20:38 < aegray> maybe 20:38 < Daishi> corpix: av 20:38 < Daishi> ZeroSlayer: convert your animated .gif's to avi 20:38 < corpix> aegray: with originla podzilla ? 20:38 < Daishi> im pretty sure mencoder can do that 20:38 < corpix> -a 20:38 < ZeroSlayer> ofc= ofcourse 20:38 -!- zsr [i=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:39 < aegray> corpix: that never got fixed 20:39 < nilson> Sorry if this is a noob-ish question, but which processor does the iPod nano have? I don't see anything on the wiki about it. 20:39 < corpix> ok 20:40 < Daishi> nilson: wiki Generations 20:40 < Daishi> it's on there 20:40 < nilson> thanks 20:40 < corpix> Daishi: how's your script going ? 20:41 -!- Appelmoes [i=appel@83.98.167.2] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 < Daishi> corpix: i havent touched it since you showed me that thing with usb 20:42 < corpix> how that ? 20:42 < corpix> ;) 20:43 < ZeroSlayer> It is capable 20:43 < ZeroSlayer> of browsing the filesystem, playing mp3s at ~95% realtime and viewing gif 20:43 < ZeroSlayer> images (85x93 pixel, grey scales) and text files. 20:43 < ZeroSlayer> sry 20:43 < ZeroSlayer> but this is a copy from the 4g readme 20:43 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC963438.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:45 < Daishi> corpix: i guess it works i cant really test it since im not gonna bother adding sysfs to my system 20:46 < ZeroSlayer> how long does it take to install linux to the ipod aprox? 20:47 < aegray> 5 minutes if you know what your doing 20:47 < ZeroSlayer> ok 20:47 -!- taco [n=elamigo2@c-24-23-192-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 < aegray> taco taco taco taco taco 20:47 < ZeroSlayer> ...the readme talked about backupping 20:47 < corpix> Daishi: well, you dont need to, it definately works 20:47 < ZeroSlayer> what do i backup 20:47 < ZeroSlayer> ? 20:47 < taco> hey need help with video conversion in 2g mini 20:47 < taco> topic is http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=27884#27884 20:47 < aegray> everything 20:47 < taco> i'm too lazy to wait 20:47 < corpix> Daishi: i use it for my usb-installer script to get my distro on thumbdrive 20:48 < masquerade> taco, what if we're too lazy to help 20:48 < taco> lol 20:48 < masquerade> no, seriously 20:48 < aegray> taco: update from cvs to the new version of 2bppconv 20:48 < taco> all right 20:48 < taco> i'll try it 20:48 < Daishi> corpix: alright then 20:48 < ZeroSlayer> aegray: just copy the whole ipod directory in H:\ ? 20:48 < aegray> if you want 20:48 < aegray> but you probably should just back up your music 20:48 < aegray> and have an apple updater handy 20:49 < ZeroSlayer> is it likely that even though i do everything right, it would go wrong? 20:49 < aegray> no 20:50 < Daishi> no 20:50 < aegray> if you do everything right, it will work 20:50 < aegray> it IS likely that you will mess something up 20:50 < aegray> as most people on this earth do 20:50 < Daishi> and you need to beg aegray for the secret passcode 20:50 < aegray> clue: read EVERYTHING very carefully 20:50 -!- fire [n=moogle@S0106001217e1e98d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:50 < Vanquisher> aegray, which kernel is needed for video + sound 20:50 < aegray> the latest 20:50 < Daishi> the new one 20:50 < Vanquisher> which is 20:50 < aegray> whatever the newest one is 20:50 < aegray> newest you can get 20:50 < ZeroSlayer> =if i follow the readme 100% this will go right? 20:50 < Vanquisher> ~wiki video 20:50 < aegray> ZeroSlayer: yes 20:50 < aegray> `wiki video 20:50 < Vanquisher> .. 20:50 < iplbot> Video Player (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player) [8605 bytes] 20:50 < Daishi> i dont see why everyone just isnt running ./ipl_linux_installer --upgrade yet 20:51 < Vanquisher> thanks 20:51 < ZeroSlayer> that is not hard for me 20:51 < rage-> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ <-- for kernel and podzilla ;o 20:51 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h70n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:51 < taco> erm, aegray 20:52 < aegray> huh? 20:52 < taco> how do i compile 20:52 < taco> i get the 3 files 20:52 < aegray> your in cygwin? 20:52 < taco> and then open cygwin 20:52 < taco> yeah 20:52 < aegray> use gcc 20:52 < taco> command? 20:52 < aegray> make 20:52 < taco> gcc 2bppconv.c??? 20:52 < taco> ... 20:52 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@unaffiliated/capso] has joined #iPodLinux 20:52 < aegray> gcc 2bppconv.c -o 2bppconv 20:53 < taco> ok ill try it 20:53 < aegray> "gcc: command not found" 20:53 < aegray> i will laugh 20:53 < Capso> lmao 20:53 < taco> no 20:53 < taco> lol 20:53 < nilson> You mean you dont run Linux on your PC 20:53 < nilson> wow 20:53 < taco> it seemed to have worked 20:53 < taco> yes i have linux 20:53 < aegray> cool 20:53 < taco> but im a noob and its hard to use 20:53 < nilson> You are putting Linux on an iPod but don't use it on your computer 20:53 < taco> so i use windows 20:53 < nilson> thats funny to me :) 20:53 < aegray> nilson: and? 20:53 < taco> ok 20:53 < taco> so the file 20:53 < taco> is in the same dir 20:54 < taco> ??? 20:54 < taco> i dont really see it 20:54 < aegray> ./2bppconv file.in file.out 20:54 < taco> oh right 20:54 < taco> lol 20:55 < taco> err 20:55 < taco> the 2bppconv 20:55 < taco> shows as an exe file 20:55 < taco> it shouldnt, right? 20:55 -!- la_ballena [n=sphex@201.240.225.136] has joined #ipodlinux 20:55 < taco> lol 20:56 < taco> ok whatever i gtg anyways 20:56 -!- taco [n=elamigo2@c-24-23-192-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:59 < Vanquisher> aegray, how big is the apple fw when you extract it usually 20:59 < aegray> dunno 20:59 < aegray> 40M? 20:59 < Vanquisher> heh 21:00 < josh_> Vanq: after make_fw -o xxx -e 0 foo, 5MB 21:00 < josh_> or so 21:01 < jesse> from the forums, it looks like ipod linux is not compatible with the newer ipod photo models, the ones they are selling now 21:01 < jesse> does anyone have it working on a 20 or 60 gb ipod photo, the newer ones? 21:01 < jesse> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3318&highlight=photo 21:01 < josh_> rage- does 21:01 < Daishi> probably not atleast for the nano 21:02 < jesse> go to that website, and there were multitudes of people who couldn't get it to work, just like me, and they tried everything 21:02 < ZeroSlayer> what does it mean when i get a folder icon and a ! icon in a triangle 21:02 < josh_> it means you messed something up 21:02 < Daishi> it means you did something wrong 21:02 < aegray> jesse: send me your ipod 21:02 < aegray> and i'll fix it 21:02 < jesse> what kind of ipod do u have aegray 21:02 < ZeroSlayer> so i shall uninstall and do this again? 21:02 < aegray> ipod photo 40 gig 21:02 < Daishi> probably 21:02 < Daishi> omg aegray me too! 21:02 < jesse> you got that when 21:02 < aegray> a year ago 21:03 < aegray> oh yea - and a 2g mini and a 4g 21:03 < Daishi> i got mine a couple of days after apple dropped the 40g 21:03 < jesse> that is the older ipod photo, i think the new ones they came out with just recently dont work with ipod linux 21:03 < Daishi> for 20 bucks less btw 21:03 < jesse> check this forum out 21:03 < jesse> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3318&highlight=photo 21:03 < aegray> jesse: send it to me and i'll get it working 21:03 < aegray> i can't really do anything without one to work with 21:03 < aegray> so i don't know what you want me to do 21:04 < Blue_AudiTT> i got ipod photo 60gb 21:04 < Blue_AudiTT> im having toruble with it 21:05 < ZeroSlayer> how do i enter disc mode? 21:05 < Blue_AudiTT> play and action 21:05 < Blue_AudiTT> when its rebooting 21:05 < ZeroSlayer> with it connected or disconnected? 21:05 < Blue_AudiTT> unplug it 21:05 < Blue_AudiTT> when u see the cracked apple press action and play 21:05 < Blue_AudiTT> leave it pressed 21:06 < ZeroSlayer> what is action button? menu? 21:06 < josh_> action = center 21:06 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@dial10024.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:06 < ZeroSlayer> ok 21:06 < ZeroSlayer> then connect it? 21:06 < josh_> do you see "Disk Mode. OK to disconnect"? 21:06 < josh_> if so, yes. 21:06 < ZeroSlayer> yes 21:06 < ZeroSlayer> then i start the installer? 21:09 < josh_> I guess 21:10 < jesse> aegray, r u like one of the people who works on ipodlinux 21:10 < aegray> am I like one of those people 21:10 < aegray> hmm 21:10 < aegray> define "works" 21:10 < Blue_AudiTT> damn ive been trying this for a while now and i jsut cant get it to work 21:11 < Blue_AudiTT> i either get that folder with the little icon or it freezed when loading podzilla 21:11 -!- la_ballena [n=sphex@201.240.225.136] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:12 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-2pool241-10.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:12 < jesse> are you part of the group that works on the kernels and podzilla? 21:12 < ZeroSlayer> if i screw up the linux install i can´t run the normal ? 21:13 < aegray> jesse: yes 21:13 < aegray> ZeroSlayer: you can always run the apple updaters 21:13 < ZeroSlayer> what is an apple updater? 21:13 < ZeroSlayer> do i download it? 21:13 < ZeroSlayer> i know i am a newb :/ 21:14 < aegray> the thing you run to update the ipod or restore it 21:14 < Blue_AudiTT> apple updater is what comes on the ipod CD 21:14 < aegray> it came with your ipod 21:14 < ZeroSlayer> the disk? 21:14 < Blue_AudiTT> yeah teh CD 21:14 < jesse> does anyone in the group have one of the newer ipod photos? 21:14 < Blue_AudiTT> go to program files and look for a folder names ipod 21:14 < Blue_AudiTT> run that 21:15 < Blue_AudiTT> i have teh 60gb ipod photo 21:15 < Blue_AudiTT> color or whatever its called 21:15 < jesse> and am i right to say it is not working with linux? 21:15 < Blue_AudiTT> yes you are 21:15 < Blue_AudiTT> what error do u get ? 21:16 < aegray> jesse: i don't know 21:16 < jesse> i try to boot into it, and the apple logo stays there, 21:16 < jesse> and i hear clicking 21:16 < jesse> it is these new ones that dont work in linux 21:16 < Blue_AudiTT> the apple wont leave ? 21:16 -!- masquerade_ [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:16 < jesse> yah 21:16 -!- masquerade_ [n=masquera@pcp009136pcs.dover01.de.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:16 < Blue_AudiTT> the cracked apple right ? 21:17 < jesse> yah 21:17 < ZeroSlayer> aegray: do restore i 1) go to disk mode 2) turn on the installer 3) run the ipodlinux-installer.exe and then? 21:17 < jesse> same with u? 21:17 < aegray> sure 21:17 < Blue_AudiTT> no 21:17 < ZeroSlayer> -d+t in do 21:17 < Blue_AudiTT> it runs 21:17 < Blue_AudiTT> but it will freeze when attempting to load it 21:17 < jesse> how much did u pay for ur ipod, and when did u get it? 21:17 < Blue_AudiTT> $400 best buy 21:17 < jesse> how long ago did u get it 21:17 < jesse> recently? 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> about 2months 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> tops 21:18 < jesse> aha! 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> this is the error i get 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> /hp/start 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> Command: cp /hp/linux/tocop 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> /hp/linux/tocopy: No such f 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> Command: rm -R /hp/linux/to 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> rm: cannot remove '/hp/linu 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> directyory 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> Command: rm /hp/start 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> Command: podzilla 21:18 < jesse> ipod linux does not yet work with the new ipod photos 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> then theres colored lines after that 21:18 < jesse> me too 21:18 < jesse> i dont get that message 21:18 < Blue_AudiTT> as soon as the apple goes away 21:19 < Blue_AudiTT> that comes on 21:19 < jesse> do u know anyone who has gotten it working who has the exact same ipod as u? 21:19 < Blue_AudiTT> no 21:19 < Blue_AudiTT> thats why im here 21:19 < Blue_AudiTT> final hope 21:20 < Vanquisher> Blue_AudiTT, fm version? 21:20 < jesse> looks like we're gonna have to wait 21:20 < aegray> hold on jesse i'm checking 21:21 < jesse> ok 21:21 < jesse> i've found multiple links of discussions with people claiming that linux does not work with teh 20 gb or 60 gb new models 21:21 < ZeroSlayer> do i have to download the ipodupdater 21:21 < ZeroSlayer> is it not on my cd? 21:22 < ZeroSlayer> to restore i 1) go to disk mode 2) connect the ipod 3) run the ipodlinux-installer.exe and then? 21:23 < Blue_AudiTT> jessee 21:23 < Blue_AudiTT> it works with this one 21:23 < Blue_AudiTT> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27660&mode=feedback 21:24 < Blue_AudiTT> but its for max 21:24 < Blue_AudiTT> *mac 21:24 < Blue_AudiTT> i dont know if u can get ahold of one 21:24 -!- taco [n=elamigo2@c-24-23-192-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 < taco> argrey 21:24 < taco> *aegray 21:24 < aegray> yes 21:25 < taco> i cant compile it 21:25 < taco> but the error i get 21:25 < aegray> jesse: one of our devs borrowed one and it worked fine 21:25 < taco> is: segmentation fault (core dumped) 21:25 < aegray> update 2bppconv 21:25 < taco> i dunno how!!! 21:25 < taco> and how will it change if i update 21:26 < taco> ??????? 21:26 < aegray> it wont segfault 21:26 < taco> ok whatever 21:26 < taco> so i go make thefile.c, right? 21:26 < ZeroSlayer> please help me to restore 21:26 < taco> ok 21:26 < taco> i can 21:26 < ZeroSlayer> is it like this? 21:26 < taco> go to dos 21:26 < ZeroSlayer> to restore i 1) go to disk mode 2) connect the ipod 3) run the ipodlinux-installer.exe and then? 21:26 < taco> hold on 21:26 < taco> go to dos 21:26 < ZeroSlayer> command promt? 21:26 < taco> cd to the ipodlinux installer dir 21:26 < taco> yes 21:27 < taco> in documents and settings\et 21:27 < taco> *etc 21:27 < ZeroSlayer> what do i write in the cmd promt? 21:27 < jesse> aegray: how did the dev get it installed sucessfully then? 21:27 < taco> cd C:\Documents and Settings\ 21:27 < aegray> not sure 21:27 < taco> dir 21:27 < taco> well 21:27 < taco> are you running xp? 21:27 < ZeroSlayer> yes 21:27 < taco> ok 21:27 < taco> then do that 21:27 < jesse> would u mind finding out? 21:28 < taco> slayer dude.... you with me? 21:28 < ZeroSlayer> the linux .exe file is in D:\Daníel\ipodlinux-installer-1.2.1 21:28 < ZeroSlayer> what is that you need to know? 21:28 < taco> oh yes 21:28 < taco> whoopsie 21:28 < ZeroSlayer> not reallt 21:28 < taco> then go there 21:28 < taco> cd to that 21:28 -!- Blue_AudiTT [n=datafull@cpe-68-203-245-173.stx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> cd to that? 21:29 < taco> yes 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> ok 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> i am in the dir 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> what do i do there 21:29 < taco> whats the exe file name again? 21:29 < taco> type in dir 21:29 < taco> tell me the name of the exe file there 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> what do you mean by cd to tbat 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> that 21:29 < ZeroSlayer> write it on a cd? :S 21:29 < taco> LOL 21:29 < taco> you're in the ipl dir right? 21:30 < ZeroSlayer> D:\Daníel\ipodlinux-installer-1.2.1 21:30 < taco> ok good 21:30 < ZeroSlayer> and ipodlinux-installer.exe 21:30 < taco> ok THANKS 21:30 < taco> i was asking for that 21:30 < ZeroSlayer> then what? 21:30 < taco> type in ipodlinux-installer.exe /r 21:30 < ZeroSlayer> ok 21:30 < ZeroSlayer> then i do what next? 21:30 < taco> there should be a wizard 21:31 < ZeroSlayer> type that in the cmd promt? 21:31 < taco> yes 21:31 < taco> "ipodlinux-installer.exe /r" with no quotes 21:32 < taco> ... 21:32 < taco> is it working? 21:32 < ZeroSlayer> no 21:32 < taco> took long enough 21:32 < taco> try -r instead of /r 21:32 < ZeroSlayer> i get 21:32 < ZeroSlayer> "ipodlinux-installer.exe /r" is not recogized as an internal 21:32 < taco> ok 21:32 < taco> ok 21:33 < ZeroSlayer> or external command 21:33 < taco> stop there 21:33 < taco> i understand 21:33 < taco> do -r instead of /r 21:33 < ZeroSlayer> , operable program or batch file 21:33 < taco> OMFG 21:33 < taco> STFU 21:33 < ZeroSlayer> this is the msg i get 21:33 < taco> im trying to help you dammit 21:33 < taco> i know 21:33 < taco> TYPE IN ipodlinux-installer.exe -r 21:33 < taco> if that doesnt work, i give up 21:34 < jesse> aegray: do u think u could find out how to successfully install it on an ipod 20 gb or 60 gb 21:34 < ZeroSlayer> ok 21:34 < ZeroSlayer> ill try that 21:34 < taco> holy crap 21:34 < aegray> jesse: yes if you send me your ipod 21:34 < taco> are you retarded 21:34 < aegray> i don't have one to test on 21:34 < aegray> so i can't help you if i don't have one 21:34 < ZeroSlayer> -r does not work eiter 21:34 < taco> slayer. just type it in 21:34 < ZeroSlayer> either 21:34 < taco> it will take 10 seconds 21:34 < taco> OK WHAT FRIGGIN DIRECTORY ARE YOU IN 21:34 < taco> lol aegray 21:34 < taco> help this guy 21:35 < aegray> no i'm done 21:35 < ZeroSlayer> one thing 21:35 < taco> what 21:35 < josh_> aegray: wrt uCdl: ELF loading is done, now I just need to write the code to patch relocations. 21:35 < ZeroSlayer> i am not in the ipodlinux dir in the cmd prompt 21:35 < ZeroSlayer> how do i load that? 21:35 < aegray> josh_: cool! 21:35 < taco> I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE!!! 21:35 < ZeroSlayer> sorry dude 21:35 < ZeroSlayer> how to i get there :/ 21:35 < taco> well go there 21:36 < ZeroSlayer> in the cmd promt it just says c: 21:36 < taco> i gtg 21:36 < ZeroSlayer> c:\blabalbal 21:36 < taco> you have to cd to your d drive 21:36 < taco> then do dir 21:36 < taco> the cd to the folder its in 21:36 < taco> dir again 21:36 < ZeroSlayer> not d:\Daníel\ipodlinux- bblablabla 21:36 < taco> i gtg now 21:36 < taco> HOLY GOD 21:36 < taco> ARE YOU RETARDED 21:36 < taco> go harass someone else 21:36 < taco> you just wasted 15 minutes of my time 21:37 < taco> and im not even a dev 21:37 < aegray> welcome to our worlds..... 21:37 < taco> LOL 21:37 < ZeroSlayer> i did not force you 21:37 < taco> yeah but i was trying to be nice 21:37 < ZeroSlayer> i do just not talk clear about things 21:37 < ZeroSlayer> what cd 21:37 < taco> lol 21:37 -!- taco [n=elamigo2@c-24-23-192-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:38 < ZeroSlayer> ok i just need to know 2 things: what cd was he talking about and how do i load a dir in cmd promt? 21:39 < aegray> cd dir 21:39 < ZeroSlayer> what cd was he talking about 21:39 < ZeroSlayer> the one that followed with the ipod 21:39 < aegray> the command cd? 21:40 < aegray> go on cnet and use their tutorial 21:40 < aegray> it has videos you can follow 21:40 < ZeroSlayer> ok 21:40 < ZeroSlayer> what is the link to that? 21:41 < aegray> i dunno 21:41 < aegray> cnet.com 21:41 < aegray> or something 21:44 < ZeroSlayer> are you not talking about cd as in a disc? 21:44 < aegray> i quit 21:44 < aegray> jesse: i lied 21:44 < aegray> i guess 21:49 -!- ZeroSl [i=Zero@adsl3-101-82.du.simnet.is] has joined #ipodlinux 21:49 -!- ZeroSlayer [i=Zero@adsl3-101-82.du.simnet.is] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:50 < ZeroSl> how do i get out of disc mode? 21:50 < josh_> `reboot 21:50 < iplbot> reboot is <=3g: menu+play >=4g: menu+center [from josh_] 21:51 < ZeroSl> disk 21:51 < aegray> yea? 21:51 -!- ZeroSl is now known as ZeroSlayer 21:51 < josh_> I just told you. 21:51 < josh_> That's how to get out of disk mode. You reboot. 21:53 < ZeroSlayer> can´t i just go into the normal ipod(the non linux) 21:53 < jesse> what what did u lie about 21:55 < jesse> aegray, what did u lie about 21:55 < aegray> it doesn't work 21:55 < aegray> were figuring it out now 21:56 < josh_> doesn't work on new 4g-colors? 21:57 < jesse> ok 21:57 < jesse> thank you so much 21:57 < aegray> yea 21:57 < josh_> interesting 21:57 < ZeroSlayer> aegray: can you do me one final favour? write down from how to restore a 4g ipod, even though it is not supported just as a favour? i thought i had it right but i didn´t:/ and maybe just pm it to me or email or something if you don´t want this in the public chan 21:58 < aegray> 1) put it in diskmode 2) run apple updater 21:58 < aegray> and hit restore 21:58 < ZeroSlayer> i have to download the updater from apple.com right? 21:59 < ZeroSlayer> aegray 22:00 -!- ZeroSlayer [i=Zero@adsl3-101-82.du.simnet.is] has quit ["The Voice In My Head Tells Me To Quit"] 22:00 < aegray> yes 22:00 < Vanquisher> aegray, :D 22:01 < Vanquisher> aegray, this rules video + sound :D 22:01 < Vanquisher> tralalalala 22:01 < aegray> ahaha 22:01 < Vanquisher> aegray, i riped 2gigs of vids so far :) 22:01 < aegray> wtf 22:01 < aegray> OMG 22:02 < aegray> this makes no SENSE! 22:02 < Capso> Har. 22:02 < aegray> its like a fs error 22:02 < aegray> my curdir shows up as empty 22:02 < aegray> but there are directories under it I can cd to 22:02 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:03 < aegray> rebooting 22:03 < josh_> you don't need to 22:03 < aegray> how do i fix it? 22:03 < josh_> cd / 22:03 < josh_> cd - 22:03 < josh_> I think will fix it 22:03 < aegray> i don't think my fs is mounted anymore 22:03 < josh_> or re-mount the fs you just unmounted 22:03 < josh_> that'll fix it too 22:03 < aegray> how do I remount the root fs? 22:03 < josh_> mount /dev/hdaX / ? 22:04 < Capso> -t 22:04 < jesse> aegray: tell me when you have the situation worked out 22:04 < josh_> ok 22:04 < Capso> mount -t /dev/hdaX / 22:04 < josh_> mount -t extwhatever /dev/hdaX / 22:04 -!- carote [n=carote@CPE-144-133-193-23.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:04 < Capso> Josh_: Not necessary for it to be ext 22:04 < Capso> For example, I use reiser4. 22:04 < josh_> I know, but it's most likely. 22:04 < aegray> agh su command not found 22:04 < josh_> haha 22:04 < aegray> ok now I do have to reboot 22:05 < aegray> for real 22:05 < josh_> one more thing 22:05 < josh_> ls -a / 22:05 < josh_> do you have . and .. there? 22:05 < aegray> it shows stuff 22:05 < aegray> yea 22:05 < josh_> reboot 22:05 < aegray> haha 22:05 < aegray> ready 22:05 < aegray> ShiintoRyuu: /usr/bin/reboot: Input/output error 22:05 < aegray> hahaha 22:05 < josh_> ShiintoRyuu? huh? 22:05 < aegray> stupid completion in xchat 22:05 < aegray> /exec -o reboot 22:05 < aegray> ShiintoRyuu: /usr/bin/reboot: Input/output error 22:06 < josh_> haha 22:06 < aegray> i can't reboot! 22:06 < aegray> agh! 22:06 < josh_> init 6? 22:06 < josh_> Big Red Button? 22:06 < aegray> i have to do that as root 22:06 < josh_> Ctrl+Alt+Del? 22:06 < aegray> i can't get root! 22:06 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:06 < josh_> okay, I guess it worked.. 22:06 < jesse> ? 22:06 < jesse> what is he doing 22:06 < josh_> rebooting 22:06 < jesse> why 22:06 < josh_> because of some really weird fs behavior 22:06 < jesse> what is fs 22:06 < josh_> filesystem 22:06 < jesse> oh 22:08 < Capso> Those were several useless lines. 22:08 -!- stoppiebo [n=abc@CPE-65-26-208-148.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:08 < ShiintoRyuu> aegray__: eeh... what? 22:09 < josh_> he wasn't talking to you 22:09 < josh_> the line was 22:09 < ShiintoRyuu> a ye o.=.o 22:09 < josh_> sh: /usr/bin/reboot: Input/output error 22:09 < josh_> and xchat completed it to 22:09 < ShiintoRyuu> lol 22:09 < josh_> ShiintoRyuu: /usr/bin/reboot: Input/output error 22:09 -!- WesTAcE [n=WesTAcE@adsl-69-226-30-102.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:10 < WesTAcE> lolol hi 22:10 < WesTAcE> whats the point of having linux on ur ipoid!!? 22:10 < ShiintoRyuu> WesTAcE: its fun 22:10 < josh_> you can play videos with sound 22:10 < josh_> more games 22:10 < josh_> better music playing (eventually), including the beloved OGG! :P 22:10 < WesTAcE> really?!?! 22:11 < josh_> yep 22:11 < WesTAcE> video?!?!?? 22:11 < josh_> yep 22:11 < WesTAcE> even on 1st gen. ipods? 22:11 < ShiintoRyuu> yup o.=.o 22:11 < ShiintoRyuu> ehH? 22:11 < ShiintoRyuu> b/w 22:11 < WesTAcE> would it work on a b/w screen lololol 22:11 < josh_> yep 22:11 < josh_> I have a 4g (b&w) and it worked great. 22:11 < WesTAcE> cool 22:11 < WesTAcE> what format does it need to be 22:11 < josh_> 1-3gs are half the speed of 4g+ so it might be a bit skippy, but it should work pretty well. 22:11 < ShiintoRyuu> uncompressed avi 22:12 < WesTAcE> ic ic 22:12 < WesTAcE> is it hard to do? 22:12 < ShiintoRyuu> giant files 22:12 < josh_> see ~[wiki video] 22:12 < iplbot> Video Player (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player) [8740 bytes] 22:12 < WesTAcE> wow nice 22:12 < WesTAcE> ill check it out later but im gonna go eat now lol 22:12 < josh_> haha ok 22:12 < josh_> cool 22:12 < josh_> 1g is actually supported, so come in here if you have any questions etc. 22:12 < ShiintoRyuu> guess thats a newb? 22:13 < josh_> probably 22:13 < ShiintoRyuu> no version reply o.=.o; which os is he using? 22:13 < josh_> no idea 22:14 < ShiintoRyuu> Ill help him with linux ^^ 22:15 < jesse> where did aegray go? 22:15 < josh_> rebooting, remember? 22:15 < Daishi> aegray__ is off fighting dragons 22:15 < Daishi> he will return in a bit 22:16 < ShiintoRyuu> fighting dragons? O.=.o 22:16 < iplbot> aegray not here right now, please leave message after tone. BEEP 22:17 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h70n4c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:17 < ShiintoRyuu> what does Daishi mean by fighting dragons? 22:17 < Daishi> you know those fire-breathing monsters? 22:18 < Daishi> roughly five stories tall and the length of half a football field? 22:18 < Daishi> aegray fights them 22:18 < aegray__> shit 22:18 < aegray__> shit shit shit 22:18 < aegray__> forced e2fsck 22:18 < Daishi> did you drop your sword again aegray__? 22:18 < aegray__> my whole fs is fucked up 22:18 < aegray__> on my laptop 22:18 < Capso> ... 22:18 < aegray__> doesn't help that i dropped it/the harddrive fell out while it was writing a file 22:18 < Capso> Aegray__: Hrm... try to get on a LiveCD and run fsck on your fs. 22:19 < aegray__> lemme see 22:19 < aegray__> i'm gonna let it run through this one 22:19 < Daishi> aegray__: dd it and then play with the file 22:19 < aegray__> and see if it fixes it 22:19 < aegray__> bla 22:19 < Capso> Do you want a LiveCD? 22:19 < aegray__> just what I needed 22:19 < aegray__> no i'll get it 22:19 < Capso> I can upload it to you. 22:19 < aegray__> i have this computer still 22:19 < Capso> Alright. 22:19 < aegray__> thanks though 22:20 * aegray__ goes back to wanting to shooting himself in the foot with his laptop 22:20 < aegray__> hmm 22:20 < aegray__> good english 22:20 -!- Capso_ [n=guest@ppp-71-133-109-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:21 < WesTAcE> RAWR 22:21 < stoppiebo> is there any reason that a huge video file wouldnt play 22:21 -!- WesTAcE [n=WesTAcE@adsl-69-226-30-102.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:21 < stoppiebo> theres no size limit or buffer prob is there? 22:22 < stoppiebo> like a really huge one like a movie 22:22 < Daishi> well technically youre limited by your hd space 22:22 < stoppiebo> yeah of course but no other reason huh 22:22 * Daishi is personally waiting for the av cable output 22:22 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-221-96-132.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:23 < stoppiebo> that will be spiffy 22:23 < aegray> ah 22:23 < aegray> better 22:23 < aegray> lets see how many files i lost 22:23 < aegray> ah 22:23 < aegray> i love linux 22:23 < aegray> :D 22:24 < Daishi> /lost+found? 22:24 < aegray> nothin there 22:24 < Daishi> neato 22:25 < Capso> Never anything in lost+found. 22:25 < aegray> would probably help if i had the screws in that keep my harddrive from falling out 22:25 < aegray> but oh well 22:25 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 -!- mohavlich [i=mohavlic@toronto-HSE-ppp4016189.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 -!- corpix_ [n=corpix@p54BDCA2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 < ShiintoRyuu> Never anything in lost+found. <- what about rebuilding your reiserfs partitions? I did it recently.. 22:29 * aegray needs to switch to reiserfs 22:30 < aegray> once i get my new laptop i'm moving to gentoo 22:30 < Capso> ShiintoRyuu: I've never had anything in there, ever. 22:30 < ShiintoRyuu> Capso: me too, but I deleted a bunch of files I did not want to delete.. ^^ 22:30 < ShiintoRyuu> and I got them recovered partly 22:31 < Capso> Ah, neat. 22:32 < aegray> maybe the fact that everything is implicitly defined is killing me 22:32 * aegray switches to -Wall 22:33 -!- mohavlich [i=mohavlic@toronto-HSE-ppp4016189.sympatico.ca] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:33 < ShiintoRyuu> aegray: gentoo - a me suggests stage 1/3 nptl 22:33 < aegray> wait - huh? 22:33 < aegray> stage 1/3 nptl? 22:34 < ShiintoRyuu> the way of setting it up :) 22:34 < aegray> k 22:34 < aegray> when I do i'll look 22:34 -!- Bofia [n=jonys@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:35 < ShiintoRyuu> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-319349.html 22:35 < ShiintoRyuu> but if you do lfs you can take gcc 4 o.=.o 22:35 < aegray> k 22:35 < aegray> haha i'm lost already 22:36 < ShiintoRyuu> which os are you using atm? 22:36 < aegray> mandrake atm 22:39 < ShiintoRyuu> aye 22:39 < ShiintoRyuu> others before? 22:39 < aegray> suse for a long time 22:39 < aegray> but i got sick of it 22:39 < aegray> mainly because of the lizard 22:39 < aegray> haha 22:39 < Capso_> Haw. 22:40 < aegray> and because I didn't know how to fix the xhost shit before 22:40 < aegray> AND 22:40 < aegray> the qt problem in 8.2 22:40 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@unaffiliated/capso] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:40 < aegray> pissed the shit out of me 22:40 * ShiintoRyuu went from winxp to gentoo, never used any other distro.. twas not easy 22:40 < aegray> god that was a pain 22:40 < Capso_> You're a pain. 22:40 < aegray> blow me 22:40 < aegray> damn I don't have ops anymore 22:40 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@ppp-71-133-109-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:40 < Capso_> I just kidding, Capso. 22:40 < aegray> you were gonna go down 22:40 < Capso_> Err... 22:40 < ShiintoRyuu> O.=.o 22:40 < Capso_> Aegray: I R teh just kidding. 22:40 < Capso_> :) 22:41 < aegray> i know 22:41 -!- Capso [n=routeadm@ppp-71-133-109-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:41 -!- Capso_ is now known as Capso 22:43 -!- corpix [n=corpix@p54BDFF1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:45 -!- Capso_ [n=routeadm@ppp-71-133-109-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:46 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["Changing server"] 22:51 < Bofia> has anyone put windows on their ipod and used it to boot your computer? 22:52 < aegray> doesn't work 22:53 < Bofia> ;< 22:53 < Bofia> why 22:54 < aegray> windows resets the usb driver when its booting 22:54 < aegray> and then it looses its root fs 22:54 < aegray> and crashes 22:55 < ShiintoRyuu> windows on ipod? 22:55 < ShiintoRyuu> wtf? 22:55 < ShiintoRyuu> whos idea was that? 22:55 < Bofia> using the ipod as a hdd 22:55 < Bofia> iunno 22:56 < Bofia> what about with linux? 22:56 < aegray> it can work 22:56 < aegray> i've done it 22:56 < ShiintoRyuu> the thought of windows on ipod is evil :P 22:56 < aegray> the kernel you use can't use EFI partition support 22:57 -!- Bofia is now known as ipod 22:58 < aegray> no 22:58 -!- ipod is now known as Bofia 22:58 < aegray> you can't do that 22:58 < Bofia> ? 22:58 < ShiintoRyuu> aegray: is there a way to cut windows' usb balls? 22:59 < aegray> hmm - do i know what that means? 22:59 < ShiintoRyuu> just killing anything that wants to reset the usb controller? 23:01 -!- TermaKill [n=TermaKil@24-113-27-154.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:07 -!- Bofia is now known as nano 23:07 -!- nano is now known as mini 23:07 -!- mini is now known as photo 23:08 < nimmerchen> photo gets kicked; 23:08 < nimmerchen> you woke me up man 23:08 < nimmerchen> *set sound to mute 23:10 -!- gezz [n=unimport@d207-6-199-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:10 < gezz> hey 23:10 < TermaKill> hello 23:10 < gezz> how is it going? 23:10 < TermaKill> good thank you 23:10 < TermaKill> you? 23:10 < gezz> hmm im having a bit of a problem 23:11 < gezz> with my ipod/ipodlinux 23:11 < TermaKill> what is it? 23:11 < gezz> sort of similar to what was posted on the forums 23:11 < gezz> about the apple logo still staying ont eh screen 23:11 < TermaKill> thats weird 23:12 < TermaKill> never had that happen to me before 23:12 < gezz> yeah its hella weird 23:12 < gezz> okay\ 23:12 < gezz> phew 23:12 < gezz> i just got it to go off 23:12 < gezz> piece of crap 23:12 < TermaKill> you are in linux,but the apple logo is still there 23:12 < gezz> maybe i shoudl update podzilla 23:12 < TermaKill> ? 23:12 < TermaKill> ya 23:12 < gezz> so yeah 23:13 < gezz> i used the http://www.ipodlinux/4g_installer 23:13 < gezz> and everything seemed to be good 23:13 < gezz> but i guess not 23:13 < TermaKill> hehe 23:14 < gezz> okay 23:14 < gezz> now i plugged it in and its not working 23:14 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:14 < gezz> is there a techy here that could help me out? 23:14 < TermaKill> sure 23:14 < gezz> so yeah 23:14 < Kurcz> hey guys 23:15 < gezz> now i plugged it back in 23:15 < gezz> and nothing is comming up... 23:15 < gezz> any ideas? 23:15 < TermaKill> on the computer? 23:15 < gezz> yeah 23:15 < gezz> nothing 23:15 < TermaKill> whats on the ipod screen? 23:15 < gezz> apple logo 23:15 < TermaKill> its stuck on the apple? 23:15 < gezz> mhmm 23:15 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-221-96-132.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:16 < TermaKill> you may have to restore your ipod 23:16 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-208-70-5.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:16 < gezz> hold menu and center, rigth? 23:16 < TermaKill> ya 23:16 < TermaKill> then rewind and action 23:16 < TermaKill> depending on your ipod I think 23:17 < gezz> do i unplug it to do it? 23:17 < TermaKill> no 23:17 < gezz> okay 23:17 < gezz> so it beeped 23:17 < gezz> and now its off 23:18 < TermaKill> From http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations "To reach disk mode, connect the iPod to your PC/Mac before starting. Then press and hold the 'Reboot iPod' combination above until the apple logo goes away. Quickly move your hand so you are now holding the 'Disk Mode' combination above. You have to do this before the apple logo comes back (or perhaps within 1 second afterwards)." 23:18 < Capso> ... 23:18 < Capso> TermaKill: Why are you pasting? People can read for themselves... just tell 'em the Addy. 23:18 < aegray> Addy??? 23:18 < aegray> agah! 23:18 < ShiintoRyuu> do I need the latest kernel for playing videos with sound? (getting error "your audio is null" or sth like it..) 23:18 < TermaKill> whats the big deal 23:18 < Capso> Aegray: ? 23:18 < aegray> your audio is null? 23:18 < aegray> what? 23:19 < ShiintoRyuu> one moment 23:19 < aegray> audio buffer null maybe? 23:19 < gezz> okay 23:19 < aegray> do you have mpd too? 23:19 < gezz> termakill 23:19 < gezz> umm 23:19 < gezz> its not working 23:19 < gezz> well i dont think so anayways 23:19 < ShiintoRyuu> mpd? 23:19 < aegray> i give up 23:19 < ShiintoRyuu> audio buffer is null, yeah 23:19 < nimmerchen> same for me when i play aother video 23:21 < ShiintoRyuu> nimmerchen: is your init script starting the video podzilla? 23:21 < aegray> are you guys starting a diff podzilla first? 23:21 < ShiintoRyuu> Im starting it from the explorer o.=.o 23:21 < ShiintoRyuu> <- me at last 23:21 < aegray> yea you can't do that 23:21 < aegray> video is a memory hog 23:21 < ShiintoRyuu> okay.. 23:21 < aegray> if it can't get enough memory it doesn't work 23:22 < nimmerchen> mh cant you just free the memory before playing? or is this allready doing but buggy? 23:23 < ShiintoRyuu> argj 23:23 < ShiintoRyuu> forgot to press rewind 23:23 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-208-70-5.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:25 < ShiintoRyuu> lol wie geil, tworks 23:26 < ShiintoRyuu> cache full o.=.o; entirely 23:26 < ShiintoRyuu> the white bar 23:27 < nimmerchen> so works now also to play more than only one video? 23:27 < ShiintoRyuu> yep 23:27 < nimmerchen> how? 23:27 < ShiintoRyuu> starting video podzilla by init script, not from another one 23:28 -!- photo [n=jonys@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [] 23:29 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:30 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:31 -!- photo [i=jonys@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:31 < jesse> will it be posted on the website when an update comes out that will work on the new ipod photo? 23:32 < TermaKill> i think it already works 23:32 < TermaKill> you're talking about the ipod color? 23:35 < jesse> yeah 23:35 < jesse> but the new ipod photos (the 20 gb and 60 gb) do not work with ipod linux 23:35 < jesse> i have read on multiple websites of people having the same problems i am having 23:36 < jesse> the older ipod photos work, like the 40 gb photo 23:37 < jesse> i also spoke to aegray earlier, and he finally admitted that it doesnt work on the newer ipod photos 23:37 < TermaKill> I dunno 23:38 < TermaKill> I thought I read on the forums that it does work 23:39 -!- aegray [n=aegray@12-221-96-132.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:42 -!- TermaKill [n=TermaKil@24-113-27-154.wavecable.com] has left #ipodlinux ["thats what she said"] 23:43 < jesse> yeah it does work, but only with the older ipod photos, the ones they sold when the regular ipods with the black and white screens were out 23:45 < aegray> anyone know how to catch a close event on an X window? 23:45 < ShiintoRyuu> but the new ipod photos (the 20 gb and 60 gb) do not work with ipod linux <- im running it on a 20gb 23:45 < nimmerchen> me to 23:45 < aegray> i guess the newer fw doesn't 23:45 < ShiintoRyuu> ^^ 23:45 < aegray> downgrade 23:45 < Kurcz> i hate how theres such a big gap 23:45 < Kurcz> 20gb, and 60 23:45 < ShiintoRyuu> <- has the latest fw 23:45 < Kurcz> i want like a 30 or 40 23:45 < Kurcz> not 20 23:46 < Kurcz> but i dont wanna spend my life savings on a 60 23:47 < macpod> Why are you CTCP-ing me ShiintoRyuu? 23:47 -!- nimmerchen [n=nimmerme@dsl-084-061-144-136.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 23:47 < Kurcz> he did me too 23:47 < ShiintoRyuu> im ctcping the whole chan o.=.o; sowwie for hitting you with it :) 23:47 < macpod> ban! 23:47 < Kurcz> haha 23:47 < Kurcz> i wana cool wallpaper 23:47 < Kurcz> want* 23:48 < Kurcz> plain, but cool 23:48 < aegray> god ##linux sucks my balls 23:48 < ShiintoRyuu> I ctcped two people sooner.. but none replied o.=.o so I wanted to know now.. 23:48 < aegray> i haven't gotten 1 answer the last 20 times i went there 23:48 < ShiintoRyuu> aegray: you can ask me if you want 23:48 < ShiintoRyuu> but Im not sure if I can help you 23:49 < aegray> i need to know how to catch a close event (when you press the X button) in XWindows so i can shutdown rather than just break a pipe 23:49 < Kurcz> lol 23:49 < Kurcz> i have no idea 23:49 < aegray> damn you 23:51 < ShiintoRyuu> changing the X button event? 23:52 < aegray> right now my program doesn't exit if the x button is pressed - the display just closes on it 23:52 < ShiintoRyuu> so I guess your program is.. buggy? 23:53 < aegray> fuck you 23:53 < aegray> thats why i'm asking 23:53 < aegray> i need something to catch the X press 23:54 < ShiintoRyuu> what about fixing the problem on its ground? 23:54 < aegray> what problem on its ground? 23:54 < ShiintoRyuu> the program not closing when you want 23:54 < aegray> it doesn't know when its supposed to close 23:54 < ShiintoRyuu> or do I get you wrong? 23:54 < aegray> thats the problem 23:55 < aegray> theres nothing telling the program that the x was clicked 23:55 < aegray> xwindows just closes the window 23:55 < ShiintoRyuu> a ye o.=.o its a program by you? 23:55 < aegray> it doesn't notify my program 23:55 < aegray> yea 23:56 < ShiintoRyuu> @.=.@ Ive no clue.. sorry 23:56 < macpod> In other window systems like X, when you programatically create a window you pass a function pointer which is called when the window closes. Have you looked at the documentation for making the window? 23:57 < aegray> kinda 23:57 < macpod> It may also becontrolled by signals.. or be like objective-c and check to see if a selector called something like WindowWillClose and if so, itis called --- Log closed Mon Sep 12 00:00:00 2005