--- Log opened Sat Sep 03 00:00:02 2005 00:01 < virtualball> i got it, thnx! 00:02 -!- renan [i=renan@200-213-132-61.lan.mdbrasil.com.br] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 < virtualball> And has anyone else made anymore games? 00:07 < virtualball> for spectrum* 00:20 -!- renan [i=renan@200-213-132-61.lan.mdbrasil.com.br] has quit [] 00:29 -!- junland [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-235.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:30 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951A4D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:30 -!- protricity [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-235.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:31 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC8AD11C.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:31 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC96C61D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 -!- Zol [n=asd@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [] 00:42 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit ["brb - new kernel"] 00:43 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC96C61D.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["virtualball has no reason"] 00:47 -!- junland [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-235.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:48 -!- protricity [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-235.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:51 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 00:56 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool254-254.nas6.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951A4D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [" GNU - Generally No Understanding"] 00:59 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-153.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 < Kurcz> how do i restart cardmgr? 01:10 -!- virtualball [n=oijfp@AC96C61D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:10 < virtualball> does scanf( work in iPod linux? 01:12 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:15 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:17 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ADijon-152-1-53-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:39 -!- Synapse [n=face@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Insufficient pants error."] 01:39 -!- Luke [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:39 -!- Synapse- [n=bagheera@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:11 -!- virtualball is now known as hiuom 02:20 -!- hiuom [n=oijfp@AC96C61D.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["hiuom has no reason"] 02:24 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:33 < josh_> virtualball: if you don't mind only being able to read l, r, h, w, f, d, m, ... 02:36 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:55 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 03:04 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 03:13 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 < Zol> lol josh 03:39 < Zol> you're still here 03:41 < josh_> I never quit IRC. 03:41 < petemc> hardcore 03:42 < jedix> quit? 03:42 < jedix> what's after irc? 03:42 < jedix> I mean, do you go to heaven? 03:43 < josh_> haha 03:43 < josh_> no, I'm not on IRC 24/7, I just keep the connection open (and my computer on, but not for that reason). 03:43 < jedix> is there a larger irc chat room that people go to after that? 03:45 < Zol> lol 03:46 < jedix> perhaps other unix jobs to respawn a new irc on another network? 03:46 < Zol> oh josh 03:46 < Zol> how do you "su to root"? 03:47 < Zol> on linux 03:47 < josh_> su 03:47 < Zol> it says here, superuser? 03:47 < josh_> if you're on knoppix, you're already root and don't need to do anything. 03:47 < Zol> well 03:48 < Zol> i didnt have sda permissions 03:48 < Zol> and couldnt access them :s 03:48 < josh_> odd 03:48 < josh_> chmod 666 /dev/sda 03:48 < Zol> lol 03:48 < Zol> let me boot linux up 03:48 < josh_> serious 03:48 < josh_> you'll have to re-download all those files 03:48 < Zol> eh? 03:48 < josh_> knoppix is a CD, remember? the stuff you download all stays in RAM, gets wiped out when you reboot. 03:48 < Zol> explain 03:48 < Zol> ah 03:48 < Zol> no wonder 03:49 < josh_> oh, and by the way > chmod 666 /dev/sda 03:49 < jedix> um 03:49 < josh_> that wasn't a joke 03:49 < josh_> it means read and write permission for everyone 03:49 < Zol> will i have enough permissions to use that cmd? :P 03:49 < josh_> if not, you have bigger problems. 03:50 < Zol> k 03:50 < Zol> i'll boot into linux 03:50 < Zol> do that 03:50 < jedix> if you're in knoppix 03:50 < jedix> you need to open a root window 03:50 < Zol> then do the dd if=ipod-mbr of=/dev/sda thing 03:50 < Zol> (after i dl the files again) 03:50 < Zol> eh jedix? 03:50 < Zol> can you explain? 03:50 < josh_> Zol: if that doesn't work, there's not much more I can help you with; sorry 03:51 < jedix> there are two different terminals.. check if you are root by typing "id" 03:51 < Zol> bah 03:51 < Zol> i'm running winxp right now 03:51 < Zol> let me boot into linux 03:51 < Zol> and "temporairly" install mIRC 03:52 < josh_> mIRC is a Windows program... 03:52 < Zol> oh 03:52 < Zol> irc i meant 03:52 < jedix> xchat 03:52 < jedix> should be on knoppix 03:52 < Zol> really? 03:52 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:52 < Zol> under what heading? 03:52 < Zol> internet? 03:54 < jedix> probably 03:55 < Zol> thanks jedix 03:56 < Zol> booting into linux 03:56 < Zol> hope to see you tall there :p 03:56 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:57 < jedix> this can only end badly 03:58 < josh_> yep 04:01 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:03 -!- knoppix [n=knoppix@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:03 -!- knoppix is now known as Zol 04:03 < Zol> yay :D 04:03 < jedix> welcome to the desert of the real 04:03 < Zol> you were RIGHT jedix 04:03 < Zol> didnt notice the last 3 times, it was at the very bottom 04:03 < Zol> but woot 04:08 < Zol> yes 04:08 < Zol> and josh 04:08 < Zol> the files 04:08 < Zol> are they the latest nightly? 04:08 < josh_> no 04:08 < josh_> they're a straight copy of mine 04:08 < josh_> whatever that is 04:08 < Zol> ah 04:08 < Zol> =p 04:08 < josh_> ~wiki installation linux 04:08 < iplbot> Installation from Linux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux) [12499 bytes] 04:09 < Zol> dd if=ipod-mbr of=/dev/sda 04:09 < josh_> check that site if you want to install from latest nightlies 04:09 < Zol> right? 04:09 < josh_> yep 04:09 < Zol> blech 04:09 < Zol> same problem 04:09 < Zol> i'll consult the website 04:09 * josh_ is out of ideas 04:09 < josh_> good idea 04:10 < jedix> what's the problem? 04:10 < josh_> he's having trouble installing iPL 04:10 < Zol> trying to install ipod linux 04:10 < josh_> on a 4g 04:10 < Zol> from knoppix 04:10 < josh_> didn't work from windows, so he tried knoppix 04:10 < jedix> .. what does it say 04:10 < Zol> dd: opening `/dev/sda': No such device or address 04:11 < josh_> I gave him my MBR to avoid having to walk through fdisking. 04:11 < jedix> oh 04:11 -!- KingPunk [n=leet@cpe-24-93-168-99.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:11 < jedix> what does `dmesg` say? the last few lines 04:11 < Zol> lol 04:11 < Zol> nice slang :p 04:11 < Zol> linux terms i'm guessing? :) 04:11 < josh_> Zol: dmesg | tail 04:12 < Zol> erm 04:12 < Zol> i'll have to pm that 04:12 < Zol> its like 10 lines 04:12 < josh_> join #ipodlinux.flood 04:12 < josh_> paste it in there 04:13 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 04:15 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:22 -!- davidc_ [n=davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:22 < davidc_> veteran: you around? 04:24 < davidc_> veteran: ... 04:26 < KingPunk> FOE SHIZZLE!!!!111one 04:26 < davidc_> rrright. 04:26 * KingPunk laughs at himself. 04:26 < KingPunk> itunesdb fixed in the latest nightly yet? or is that still an issue? 04:26 < KingPunk> i've been gone for a while. 04:27 < davidc_> no idea 04:28 < KingPunk> meh. :( 04:42 < KingPunk> whew. anybody catch the new kanye west album? its hot. 04:42 -!- Eko [n=Eko@user-12l2fjm.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:45 < Zol> how far is it at jedix? 04:58 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 04:58 -!- Daishi [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:59 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.50.145] has quit ["bye!"] 05:03 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:03 -!- sleepless [n=sleepy@65.124.109.127] has joined #ipodlinux 05:05 -!- sleepless [n=sleepy@65.124.109.127] has quit ["generic quit message"] 05:07 -!- Zol [n=knoppix@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:16 -!- Zol [n=NN@S0106000c41421537.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:30 -!- linux_inside_v2 [n=likei@203-217-74-238.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:30 < linux_inside_v2> morning 05:30 < linux_inside_v2> afternoon 05:30 < linux_inside_v2> woah its 3pm! 05:30 < josh_> 22:30 < linux_inside_v2> woah its 3pm! 05:31 < linux_inside_v2> im in australia and im in AUS EST 05:31 < courtc> 01:31 < linux_inside_v2> woah its 3pm! 05:32 < josh_> courtc: is there any better way to debug a fullscreen app on a mono 4g than "binary search debugging"? (insert exit statement, move up or down depending on whether it gets reached) 05:32 < josh_> I'd write a log file, but the problem only crops up without one. 05:35 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-158-34-133.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:36 < courtc_> josh_: always log? ;) 05:36 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-158-10-24.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:36 < josh_> I did that, and it worked (but slowly, since it did a disk write about every 10 ms) 05:36 -!- courtc_ is now known as ocurtc 05:36 -!- ocurtc is now known as courtc 05:36 < josh_> when I disabled the logging, it stopped working. 05:37 * josh_ really wishes he had one of those PodConsole things 05:38 < courtc> I don't know of any better ways if you only see the bug on the ipod. 05:38 < josh_> yep, that's the case 05:38 < josh_> oh well 05:38 < josh_> binary search debugging it is 05:39 < courtc> pawn is nice in that respect, it provides runtime debugging. (and it actually works on the ipod) 05:39 < josh_> niice 05:40 < josh_> note to self: recompile program before recopying it to iPod. 05:40 < josh_> oh, and I updated iplbot today 05:40 < josh_> ~wiki installation linux 05:40 < iplbot> Installation from Linux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux) [12499 bytes] 05:41 < josh_> ~google ipodlinux for me 05:41 < iplbot> Main Page - wikiPodLinux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page): For more details on what iPodLinux supports, see our Project Status page. ... 05:41 < iplbot> I'll /msg you the next 4 results. 05:41 < courtc> ~google irc browser 05:42 < josh_> you need to identify 05:42 < courtc> ~google irc browser! 05:42 < josh_> if you just ~google FOO, it'll give you the first result only. 05:42 < courtc> oh, right 05:43 < josh_> if you ~google FOO for (me|SOME_NICK), it'll say the first result and /msg the first 5. 05:43 < courtc> ~google iplbot 05:43 < iplbot> No match. 05:43 < josh_> ~wiki FOO searches the wiki for FOO and returns the first result; ~wikisearch FOO says the first result and returns the first 5. 05:43 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 05:43 < josh_> heh 05:44 < courtc> you know whats weird? 05:44 < josh_> what? 05:44 < courtc> ~wiki SDL 05:44 < josh_> look at the parenthetical 05:44 < courtc> heh ;) 05:44 < josh_> (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 05:45 < courtc> was joking ;p 05:45 < josh_> hehehe 05:45 < josh_> it's actually true, though 05:45 < josh_> it's not indexed 05:45 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 05:45 < josh_> but 05:45 < josh_> wow, that took a while 05:45 < josh_> ~wiki building 05:45 < iplbot> Building SDL (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_SDL) [5421 bytes] 05:46 < josh_> by the way, I had to fudge the script's User-agent as Firefox to avoid getting 403'd by Google. 05:46 < courtc> ~google ipodlinux SDL 05:46 < iplbot> Building SDL - WikiPodLinux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_SDL): This SDL port uses the iPod as just an additional video driver; you can use the 05:46 < iplbot> Building SDL - WikiPodLinux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_SDL): This SDL port uses the iPod as just an additional video driver; you can use the 05:46 < josh_> double? huh? 05:46 < josh_> ~google linux 05:46 < iplbot> The Linux Home Page at Linux Online (http://www.linux.org/): Comprehensive information and resources about the Linux Operating System. 05:46 < iplbot> The Linux Home Page at Linux Online (http://www.linux.org/): Comprehensive information and resources about the Linux Operating System. 05:46 < josh_> odd 05:46 * josh_ fixes 05:47 < josh_> `update 05:47 -!- iplbot [n=iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["Restarted by josh_"] 05:47 -!- iplbot [n=iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:47 < josh_> `google linux 05:47 < iplbot> The Linux Home Page at Linux Online (http://www.linux.org/): Comprehensive information and resources about the Linux Operating System. 05:47 < josh_> there 05:47 < courtc> `google courtc 05:47 < iplbot> User:Courtc - wikiPodLinux (http://www.ipodlinux.org/User:Courtc): courtc(a)ipodlinux.org. otherwise, put it on my talk page or look for me on irc. 05:48 < josh_> `google josh_ 05:48 < iplbot> digg / josh_ / dugg (http://digg.com/users/josh_): josh_. Username Josh. digging history; friends · personal profile. stories dugg; 05:48 < josh_> not me 05:48 < courtc> `google french war victories 05:48 < iplbot> Text / The Complete Military History of France (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html): The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule! ... 05:49 < josh_> `google litigious bastards 05:49 < iplbot> SCO: Litigious Bastards (http://www.litigiousbastards.com/): Congratulations everyone, the SCO litigious bastards campaign has succeeded! 05:49 < courtc> hmm... the first result used to be "french war defeats" 05:50 < josh_> you got the terms wrong 05:50 < josh_> `google french military victories 05:50 < iplbot> No match. 05:50 < josh_> wtf? 05:52 < josh_> not to make a political statement, but... 05:52 < josh_> `google miserable failure 05:52 < iplbot> Biography of President George W. Bush (http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html): Biography of the president from the official White House web site. 05:52 < courtc> hahahaha 05:52 < courtc> that's a good'un 05:52 < josh_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bomb 05:56 < josh_> `google gastrointestinal dysentry 05:56 < iplbot> Gastrointestinal Infection (http://www.nuigalway.ie/bac/git.htm): The commonest clinical manifestations of many gastrointestinal infections are 05:57 < josh_> `google gastrointestinal dysentery 05:57 < iplbot> Kres Restaurant - Stylish chophouse and lounge in the heart of ... (http://www.kresrestaurant.com/): Kres Chophouse and Lounge is a progressive American steakhouse with a Mediterranean 05:57 < courtc> heh 05:59 * courtc installs fink 06:09 -!- KingPunk [n=leet@cpe-24-93-168-99.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:30 -!- OPP [n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:30 < OPP> hello 06:30 < OPP> can i ask about mpd? 06:30 < josh_> feel free 06:31 < josh_> no guarantee you'll get an answer though :P 06:31 < OPP> o 06:31 < OPP> is it still being worked on? 06:31 < OPP> or is it a dead project 06:31 < josh_> it's in CVS, I believe 06:31 < josh_> `MPD 06:31 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from josh_] 06:32 < OPP> hmm ok 06:32 < OPP> thanks 06:32 < OPP> btw 06:32 < OPP> just out of curiousty 06:33 < OPP> whats a good case for my ipod 06:33 < josh_> switch-case 06:33 < josh_> *ducks* 06:33 < OPP> huh? 06:33 < josh_> it's a C joke 06:33 < josh_> honestly, I don't know 06:33 < OPP> o 06:33 < OPP> ok 06:33 < OPP> do you have an ipod 06:35 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:36 < josh_> yed 06:36 < josh_> *yes 06:37 < OPP> do you use a case 06:37 < josh_> yes 06:37 < josh_> but I don't know what kind 06:37 < josh_> it says "dlo" on the back, if that's helpful 06:37 < OPP> o ok 06:37 < OPP> so its an icondom 06:37 < josh_> interesting terminology... 06:38 -!- ILUVXBINS [n=giveitup@p54A546FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 < OPP> why is ipodlinux better then apple version 06:38 < OPP> i have ipodlinux installed 06:38 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 < OPP> am i missing something here 06:39 < josh_> um... games, extensibility, fun stuff (cube, etc.), MPD, command line, extensibility, GB emulator, text input, etc. 06:39 < josh_> not all of those are in main podzilla, but they're all possible with iPL. 06:39 < OPP> but mpd doesnt work... 06:40 < josh_> works for many of the devs 06:40 < OPP> lol 06:40 < OPP> o 06:40 < OPP> ill try it 06:40 < josh_> but that doesn't discount all the other stuff I mentioned 06:40 < OPP> right 06:40 < OPP> i hate how it buffers for each song 06:42 < OPP> have you got it to work 06:47 < josh_> never tried yet 06:49 < OPP> o 06:49 < OPP> well 06:49 < OPP> if you could name 1 thing 06:49 < OPP> not in podzilla 06:49 < OPP> that i should get 06:49 < OPP> what is it 06:49 < OPP> or 2 06:49 < OPP> or 4 06:50 < josh_> ~MPD 06:50 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from josh_] 06:50 < josh_> ~wiki MPD 06:50 < iplbot> No matches. (By the way, words <= 3 letters aren't indexed.) 06:50 < josh_> er 06:50 < josh_> ~wiki mpdc 06:50 < iplbot> MPD (http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD) [4731 bytes] 06:51 < OPP> ya 06:51 < OPP> but 06:51 < OPP> isnt it hard to setup 06:51 < OPP> i have a 4g 06:51 < OPP> does it work with taht 06:53 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-4433.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 06:55 < rage-> josh, you around? 06:55 < josh_> yes 06:55 < rage-> you have that arm-elf link handy? 06:55 < josh_> ~wiki toolchain 06:55 < iplbot> Toolchain (http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain) [5205 bytes] 06:55 < rage-> I downloaded that file now I'm wondering what to do with it 06:55 < rage-> thx 06:56 < josh_> it's a shell script 06:56 < josh_> just execute it 06:56 < josh_> sh arm-elf-tools-2003????.sh 06:56 < rage-> I did 06:56 < josh_> as root? 06:56 < rage-> it looked like it extracted a bunch of junk 06:56 < rage-> but I see it not 06:56 < josh_> try arm-elf-gcc -v 06:56 < rage-> oh wait 06:56 < rage-> it did install it... 06:56 < rage-> ish! 06:56 < rage-> but yeah 06:56 < rage-> while extracting it displayed like this 06:57 < rage-> ./usr/local/bin/arm-elf-strip 06:57 < rage-> I wasn't in / when I did it 06:57 < josh_> it cd / 'd first 06:57 < rage-> so I figured it would ahve put it in my working dir 06:57 < josh_> ah 06:57 < rage-> but it put it in /usr/* 06:57 < josh_> yeah 06:57 < josh_> if arm-elf-gcc -v works, you're fine 06:57 < rage-> yup 06:57 < rage-> now to continue where I left off 06:58 < rage-> one thing about that linux installer 06:58 < rage-> if it errors on a step, it just continues 06:58 < josh_> sh -e Linux_Installer.sh 06:58 < josh_> will make it quit on errors 06:58 < rage-> meh 06:58 < josh_> (the -e) 06:58 < rage-> you'd think that'd be built in 06:58 < josh_> Daishi: rage- has a bug report for you 06:58 < josh_> not here, gah 07:00 < rage-> -bash: ./make_fw: cannot execute binary file 07:00 < rage-> man 07:00 < rage-> I"m cursed 07:00 < josh_> no you're not 07:00 < josh_> make clean 07:00 < josh_> then try it again 07:00 < josh_> for some reason, there's a binary in the make_fw archive. 07:00 < rage-> yeah I saw that 07:00 < rage-> that one worked 07:00 < rage-> until I compiled myself 07:01 < rage-> heh 07:01 < josh_> interesting 07:01 < josh_> ? 07:01 < josh_> file make_fw 07:01 < rage-> aye 07:01 < rage-> ok now I'm golden 07:01 < josh_> good 07:01 < josh_> probably some cruft 07:01 < josh_> got your iPod yet? 07:01 < rage-> what was that -3 option you did before 07:01 < rage-> yeah, got it this morning 07:01 < rage-> I love it already 07:01 < josh_> the -3 option 07:01 < rage-> even without linux on there 07:01 < josh_> nothing more to it 07:01 < rage-> EXCEPT the fact that you have to use itunes to put music into apples software 07:01 < rage-> that seems to me... rather retarded 07:01 < josh_> which is fixable with iPL :P 07:02 < rage-> oh? 07:02 < josh_> (at least with new mpd versions) 07:02 < rage-> erm 07:02 < rage-> lemme understand you 07:02 < rage-> it's fixable within ipl 07:02 < josh_> no 07:02 < josh_> er 07:02 < rage-> or you can fix it so apples stuff doesn't need itunes to find the music 07:02 < josh_> yeahg 07:02 < josh_> oh no, just in iPL 07:02 < rage-> ok 07:02 < rage-> so I'd imagine 07:02 * josh_ misunderstood you who misunderstood me... 07:02 < rage-> you use ipl for all your music needs 07:03 < josh_> not yet 07:03 < rage-> reasons? 07:03 < josh_> haven't taken the time to install MPD etc. 07:03 < OPP> mpd didnt work for me 07:03 < rage-> oooh shoot 07:03 < josh_> and I have a significant number of FairPlayed files 07:03 < rage-> josh_, when do I need to use the -3 option 07:03 < rage-> which I now see I need 07:03 < josh_> the second make_fw 07:03 * courtc is in loves MPD 07:03 < rage-> ok 07:04 < OPP> court 07:04 < josh_> ./make_fw -3 -o ipod.fw -i apple.fw -l linux.fw loader.bin 07:04 < courtc> err... s/is in// 07:04 < rage-> ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup 07:04 < rage-> what's that one donig again? 07:04 < rage-> doing* 07:04 < OPP> can it run on 4g, like is it possible 07:04 < josh_> that extracts the ~4MB apple firmware from the ~40MB ipod_os_partition_backup 07:04 < rage-> (I like to understand what I'm doing instead of mindlessly pushing buttons) 07:04 < josh_> OPP: yes 07:04 < josh_> courtc: tell OPP 07:04 < rage-> ok 07:04 < josh_> good :P 07:05 < courtc> OPP: runs on my mini fine. 07:05 < rage-> hrm 07:05 < rage-> seeing as I don't want to use itunes all the time 07:05 < OPP> bah 07:05 < rage-> I think I might want linux my default boot 07:05 < OPP> i got the folder of death 07:05 < courtc> There have been bugs cropping up with the version in CVS though.. I'm trying to track them down. 07:05 < josh_> rage-: beware the fast-draining battery 07:05 < rage-> hrm? 07:06 < josh_> Linux runs faster than retailos and so won't last as long on a charge 07:06 < courtc> linux has no power management :/ 07:06 < rage-> hrm 07:06 < josh_> courtc: Podzilla cvs or MPD cvs? 07:06 < rage-> that sucks. 07:06 < rage-> badly. 07:06 < rage-> I wanted to stay away from apple 07:06 < courtc> podzilla. 07:06 < rage-> ;o 07:06 < josh_> courtc: ok 07:06 * josh_ will wait it out then 07:06 < OPP> court c 07:06 < josh_> courtc: tracked my bug, it's crashing somewhere in SDL_SetVideoMode() 07:06 < courtc> MPD has some bugs too, but I just blame all those on coob ;) 07:07 < josh_> hehe 07:07 < OPP> can you send me your build of mpd with podzilla? 07:07 < courtc> I can't atm. 07:07 < OPP> ok 07:07 < OPP> can you play flac? 07:07 < OPP> and games+music? 07:07 < courtc> yup 07:07 < courtc> ogg even ;p 07:07 < josh_> (only on 4gs, right?) 07:07 < josh_> er, 4g+ 07:08 < courtc> yep 07:08 < josh_> and does MPD run on the COP? 07:08 < josh_> because that would be a really cool enhancement 07:08 < courtc> thats the plan 07:08 < OPP> grr 07:08 < OPP> how do i do it 07:08 < courtc> split over the two procs 07:09 < josh_> where's the split? 07:09 < courtc> buffering /decoding 07:09 < josh_> ah, cool 07:09 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-1582.bb.online.no] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:10 < josh_> ~pawn 07:10 < iplbot> pawn is a simple, typeless, 32-bit extension language with a C-like syntax. A pawn "source" program is compiled to a binary file for optimal execution speed. The pawn compiler outputs P-code (or bytecode) that subsequently runs on an abstract machine. Execution speed, stability, simplicity and a small footprint were essential design criteria for both the language and the abstract machine. [from josh_] 07:10 < josh_> got source? 07:10 < rage-> how much faster does the battery drain while running linux? 07:11 < josh_> rage-: it's the difference between 2x75 MHz and 2x60 MHz, I believe 07:11 < josh_> probably more than that 07:19 < courtc> josh_: linux pawn source? or podzilla+pawn stuff? 07:19 < josh_> pz+pawn 07:19 < courtc> hmm.. 07:19 -!- linux_inside_v2 [n=likei@203-217-74-238.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 07:19 < josh_> (just curious) 07:20 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/small/ 07:23 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2284.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 07:23 < josh_> very cool 07:23 < rage-> mind clueing me in on what the MPD will give us? 07:23 < rage-> just a way to play our music in the backgruond? 07:23 < courtc> `MPD 07:23 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from courtc] 07:24 < josh_> and play more types of music, better, and with more flexibility 07:24 < josh_> not to mention it's easier to develop for 07:24 < josh_> courtc: is small tied to the mwin interface (Gr*())? 07:25 < rage-> so you haven't tried it yet eh josh_ 07:25 < courtc> yea, but you can see the wrappers in wrappers.c and graphics.c in the diff 07:26 < josh_> but it expects wrappers for mwin and not, e.g. SDL or something? 07:27 < courtc> for small/pawn? its made as an extention language. you can use whatever you want as the abstract machine 07:27 < josh_> ah okay 07:27 < josh_> I figured maybe you had an abstraction layer for graphics stuff. 07:28 < courtc> if we do it properly we should be able to make small apps be able to use SDL or mwin without noticing a difference. 07:29 < josh_> ok, cool 07:29 < josh_> so where's the code that defines that calling draw_line() in small should call w_GrLine() in the C wrapper? 07:30 < courtc> wrappers.c near the bottom 07:30 < OPP> courtc whats teh easiet way to put on mpd 07:30 < courtc> `MPD 07:30 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from courtc] 07:30 < josh_> courtc: ahh 07:30 < josh_> I missed that 07:30 < josh_> cool 07:32 < courtc> n_ is native w_ is wrapper 07:32 < OPP> wait 07:32 < OPP> how the hell do i add it to a current build 07:32 < OPP> i dont get what it says 07:33 < courtc> make IPOD=1 MPDC=1 07:33 < OPP> where? 07:33 < OPP> sorry im new to this 07:33 < OPP> i dont know where to type that 07:33 < courtc> in your podzilla dir 07:33 < OPP> o ok 07:34 < OPP> like 07:34 < OPP> make a txt 07:34 < OPP> and say 07:34 < OPP> mpdc=1 07:34 < josh_> no 07:34 < josh_> type 07:34 * courtc gives up. 07:34 < josh_> make IPOD=1 MPDC=1 07:34 < rage-> well 07:34 < rage-> I think I'm done installing 07:35 * rage- crosses his fingers 07:35 < OPP> where though 07:35 < josh_> in the podzilla directory! 07:35 < josh_> at the command line! 07:35 < OPP> wheres that? 07:35 < OPP> ooo 07:35 < OPP> ok 07:35 < OPP> thankyou 07:35 * josh_ gives up. 07:35 < rage-> btw, when my ipod is plugged into my pc, it says "Do not disconnect." 07:35 < josh_> rage-: that's normal 07:35 < josh_> if you want to get rid of the message, eject /dev/sda 07:36 < rage-> when disconnecting, does it matter if I unplug the usb or the dock end? 07:36 < josh_> if you don't care, just sync before unplugging 07:36 < josh_> doesn't matter 07:36 < josh_> probably easier to disconnect the dock end 07:36 < rage-> ahhahahah 07:36 < rage-> whooooooooo 07:36 < josh_> work? 07:37 < rage-> aye 07:37 < josh_> w00t! 07:37 < rage-> podzilla came right up 07:37 < rage-> booted in like 5 seconds 07:37 < josh_> now have some fun :) 07:37 < OPP> dude 07:37 < OPP> can you send me your podzilla file 07:37 < OPP> with mpd 07:37 < OPP> i cant get it 07:37 * josh_ doesn't have one 07:37 < josh_> courtc? 07:38 < OPP> what about rage 07:38 < josh_> I don't think rage- has MPD installed. do you? 07:39 < rage-> nope 07:39 < rage-> but I'm going to try the floydzilla I downloaded with MPD :) 07:39 < rage-> and.. 07:39 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/podzilla 07:39 < rage-> my ipod just froze :( 07:39 < josh_> playing music? 07:39 < rage-> ya 07:39 < OPP> thanks courtc 07:39 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-4433.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:39 < josh_> known bug, mpd fixes it 07:39 < OPP> how old is that build? 07:39 < josh_> courtc: stuck at 1.0 MB 07:39 < josh_> out of 1.1 07:39 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-0950.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 07:40 < courtc> i didn't do it. 07:40 < courtc> promise 07:40 < josh_> heh 07:40 < OPP> o 07:40 < josh_> hmm, it's not even dling now 07:40 < OPP> august 20 07:40 < OPP> thats fine 07:41 < OPP> thanks man 07:41 < rage-> doh 07:41 < rage-> tuxchess is all chess notation! 07:41 < rage-> :x 07:41 -!- nilss [i=nils@nilss.prout.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:42 < josh_> courtc: fixed with judicious use of wget -c. 07:42 < josh_> thanks! 07:43 < rage-> omg 07:44 < rage-> the tic tac toe knows how to tie every time 07:44 < rage-> ! 07:45 < josh_> courtc: the songs list takes quite a while to load 07:45 < OPP> do i create a /etc fodler in root? 07:45 < OPP> or should there be one 07:45 < josh_> in fact, I think it qualifies as "frozen" 07:45 < josh_> but very nice 07:48 * OPP crosses fingers and hopes for the best and is installing 07:49 < OPP> dman 07:49 < OPP> 3am here 07:49 < courtc> 4 07:49 < josh_> 12:50 07:50 < courtc> josh_: yea, umm.. if you have more than 250 songs ;p 07:50 < josh_> a bunch of iTrip mini-songs, that might do it 07:50 < OPP> the screen just went black 07:50 < josh_> ("mini-songs" = "encoded bleeps to change the transmitting frequency") 07:50 < josh_> OPP: adjust the contrast 07:50 < OPP> i cant see 07:50 < OPP> anything 07:51 < OPP> completely black 07:51 < josh_> scroll right two clicks, press center, right four clicks, press center, left until you can see 07:51 < josh_> or hold menu for 10 sec 07:51 < courtc> erm.. might be 5 in the settings.. 07:51 < courtc> (Credits) 07:51 < josh_> hmm 07:52 < OPP> not workin 07:53 < OPP> i got into apple 07:53 < OPP> no linux 07:54 < OPP> my linux was working fine 07:54 < OPP> before i tried mpd 07:54 < OPP> i dotn here anything when i scrolll 07:54 < OPP> in the black screen 07:54 < OPP> its just...black 07:55 < josh_> courtc: (your) podzilla freezes when I select a song (unprotected AAC) 07:55 < courtc> yea, don't. 07:55 < josh_> only MP3s? 07:55 < courtc> mp3s flacs and oggs 07:55 < josh_> ok 07:56 < courtc> AAC is broken. I can give you a bin with AAC buil-in but then nothing will work ;) 07:56 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2284.bb.online.no] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:56 -!- Cippo_ is now known as Cippo 07:56 < OPP> oh well 07:56 < josh_> hehe 07:56 < OPP> ill wait for mpd to get integrated and easier 07:56 < josh_> MP3 also froze, but it displayed the now playing screen first 07:57 < courtc> froze podzilla? 07:57 < courtc> shouldn't have. 07:57 < courtc> strange. 07:57 < josh_> now it froze on the artists screen 07:58 < josh_> and there's some blank spots 07:58 < josh_> I know -- bad tags -- but could that make it freeze? 07:58 < courtc> dunno 07:58 < rage-> holy shit 07:58 < rage-> you can record right through the earphone?! 07:58 < josh_> yep 07:58 < courtc> I thought i took care of that, 07:58 < josh_> left one 07:58 < rage-> lol 07:58 < rage-> yeah 07:58 < rage-> luck of the draw I guess :x 07:59 -!- OPP [n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:00 < josh_> more freezes in random places 08:00 -!- ILUVXBINS [n=giveitup@p54A546FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:01 < courtc> something went seriously wrong when i put it in CVS i guess 08:01 * josh_ no idea 08:02 < josh_> oh, and if you reboot from linux into apple, protected AACs won't play until you reboot again. odd and probably unrelated to linux, but interesting. 08:04 < rage-> hrm 08:04 < rage-> can you queue up files and such with mpd? 08:05 < josh_> yes 08:06 < rage-> but not with the built in player? 08:06 < josh_> correct 08:06 < rage-> well 08:06 < rage-> I think I'm going to try out floydzilla with and without MPD 08:06 < rage-> :) 08:06 < josh_> cool 08:08 < rage-> how does *zilla know whether to play mp3s with the one that podzilla uses as opposed to mpd 08:09 < josh_> it's not patched or patched, respectively 08:15 < rage-> 'patched' 08:15 < josh_> rather, one of the newest versions from CVS 08:15 < josh_> if it has it, there's no way to turn it off. 08:15 < josh_> (short of recompiling) 08:15 -!- protricity [i=Prot@ip70-162-13-235.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:17 < rage-> it's in the newest cvs? 08:17 < rage-> er 08:17 < josh_> yes, but not working too well 08:17 < josh_> ask courtc 08:17 < rage-> you talking nightly builds? 08:18 < josh_> yes, I believe 08:18 < josh_> ask courtc 08:18 < josh_> I'm not a dev & not really sure 08:18 < courtc> MPDC=1 takes out IPP and helix decoders from podzilla 08:18 < rage-> hrm 08:18 < josh_> yeah, it's a compiletime option 08:18 < rage-> well I just downloaded a nightly 08:19 < rage-> although 08:19 < rage-> it was 8-31 08:19 < rage-> and not 9-2 08:19 < courtc> nightlies don't have mpdc built in. 08:19 * courtc afk 08:19 < josh_> ah 08:19 < rage-> well tell josh to stop lying ;) 08:19 < josh_> 01:18 < josh_> I'm not a dev & not really sure 08:19 < rage-> courtc, mpd work for you yet? 08:19 < josh_> 01:18 < josh_> yes, I believe 08:19 < rage-> oh shh josh 08:19 < rage-> don't go lying now 08:19 < josh_> I don't think that's lying... 08:19 < josh_> :P 08:19 < rage-> :P 08:19 < rage-> LIAR 08:19 < josh_> note "not really sure", "I believe" :P 08:19 < rage-> coverup 08:19 < josh_> my intelligence was simply flawed :P 08:20 < rage-> lies 08:22 < rage-> hrm 08:22 < rage-> getting a drive full error 08:22 < josh_> 0dd 08:23 < courtc> ugh, SDL sucks on osx: Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS 08:23 < josh_> what are you using sdl+osx for? 08:23 < josh_> and are you compiling with `sdl-config --cflags --libs`? 08:23 < courtc> mhmm 08:24 < courtc> I'm trying to port an app I'm working on. 08:24 < rage-> mmm 08:24 < josh_> what version SDL? 08:25 < rage-> so much faster now that I installed usb 2.0 drivers 08:25 < josh_> I used 1.2.7 on osx once and had no trouble 08:25 < courtc> I'd like to be able to code for it on my laptop, but no good. 08:25 -!- smo [n=soneil@pdpc/supporter/active/smo] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 08:26 < josh_> try running it as root? 08:26 < courtc> I think it might be openGL that is causing teh problem. 08:26 < courtc> no change 08:26 < josh_> if it's an opengl prog, that might be it 08:26 < josh_> idk 08:26 < josh_> never used ogl 08:26 < josh_> you could use the x11 driver... 08:27 < davidc_> yea, I've used ogl /sdl on osx 08:27 < davidc_> works fine 08:27 < davidc_> you've got a bug in your code ;) 08:27 < courtc> no, it segfaults before my code. 08:27 < davidc_> ah 08:27 < davidc_> hmm 08:27 < davidc_> it segfaults on startup? 08:28 < courtc> well, bus error I should say. 08:28 < courtc> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory. 08:28 < courtc> Reason: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at address: 0x00000a6c 08:28 < josh_> courtc: try export SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 DISPLAY=:0 08:28 < josh_> and start X11 08:28 < josh_> and see if that works 08:28 < josh_> try compiling it -g and tracing it with gdb 08:29 < courtc> thats what i get from gdb. 08:29 < josh_> ah 08:29 < courtc> 0x92da4f04 in glTexParameteri () 08:29 < josh_> what are the bottom two funcs? 08:29 < courtc> thats it. 08:30 < josh_> bt? 08:30 < josh_> does the backtrace have only one function in it? (command: bt) 08:31 < courtc> one sec, my brother might have commited some broken shit. 08:31 < josh_> heh 08:31 < josh_> is he the developer for this app? 08:31 < courtc> one of two ;) 08:32 < courtc> (I'm the other.) 08:32 < josh_> figured as much 08:34 < courtc> I don't like debugging on OSX. its a big mess: #9 0x9286cf20 in -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] 08:36 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-0950.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:38 < courtc> yup, entirely not my fault. ;) commented out some of his code, now it works. yay! 08:38 < josh_> cool 08:38 < josh_> just out of curiosity... what's the app? 08:39 < courtc> #vf5 08:40 < courtc> Virtua Fighter 4 clone for non-game-platform systems 08:41 < josh_> cool 08:42 < courtc> anywho, I'm off to do some coding... and maybe some sleeping as well 08:42 -!- fallouty [i=fallout@86.126.82.163] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:44 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2169.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 08:45 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2169.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 08:46 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2169.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 08:55 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6388.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 09:01 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2169.bb.online.no] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:01 -!- Cippo_ is now known as Cippo 09:03 < rage-> wtf. 09:03 < rage-> why is my ipod telling me its full 09:03 < josh_> it is? 09:03 < rage-> "Error Copying FIle or Folder" 09:03 < rage-> "Cannot copy dmx: Access is denied." 09:04 < rage-> make sure disk is not full or write-protected 09:04 < rage-> oh wait 09:04 < rage-> it's just that folder 09:04 < rage-> why... 09:04 < josh_> you need to be root maybe 09:04 < rage-> I'm doing it from M$ 09:04 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10322.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:04 < josh_> oh 09:04 < josh_> do it from linux 09:04 < josh_> and ignore the 'start' file 09:04 < rage-> too lazy to reboot ;) 09:04 < rage-> also 09:05 < rage-> for some reason 09:05 < rage-> grub isn't coming up on that pc any more... 09:05 < josh_> odd 09:05 * josh_ no idea 09:05 -!- [HH]_X_RAY [n=huh@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------] 09:05 -!- [HH]_X_RAY [n=huh@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 09:07 < zsr> l. a. w. l. 09:12 -!- tlg_ [n=tlg@66-203.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 09:12 -!- tlg [n=tlg@81.243.229.23] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:27 -!- ILikeLinux [n=chris@203-173-160-10.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:33 -!- Asraniel [n=Asraniel@101.206.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 09:40 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:42 -!- Luke_ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 09:44 -!- franky007rizzo [n=frank@ip68-228-238-70.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:45 -!- Luke_ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has quit [Client Quit] 09:48 -!- Luke_ [n=Luke@66.103.97.34] has joined #ipodlinux 09:48 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-6388.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:52 -!- Luke_ is now known as Luke 09:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 09:53 -!- franky007rizzo [n=frank@ip68-228-238-70.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [] 09:58 -!- protricity [i=Prot@ip70-162-11-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:14 < rage-> its pitiful how easily ipods scratch 10:16 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10322.odn.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:18 < rage-> josh? 10:22 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-200-223.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 10:23 < ballistix> could someone please explain how GR_SCREEN_INFO.cols works? 10:23 < ballistix> like, how does .cols and .rows work? 10:24 < ballistix> courtc? 10:25 < ballistix> anybody? 10:38 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10322.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:46 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-200-223.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:04 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-8341.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2025.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-8341.bb.online.no] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:09 -!- Cippo_ is now known as Cippo 11:16 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10322.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:26 < rage-> anyone around? 11:55 -!- bleuu [n=blew@stjhnf0111w-142162137178.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:05 -!- raml [n=raml@dsl-199-104.hive.is] has joined #ipodlinux 12:10 -!- raml [n=raml@dsl-199-104.hive.is] has quit [] 12:17 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162054231.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:47 -!- pigats [n=pigats@host109-247.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 < pigats> hello everybody 12:48 < pigats> I've just discovered the ipodlinux pjc and I think it's great! 12:49 < pigats> but I've a question on video playback 12:49 < pigats> anyone can answer? 12:51 < pigats> I saw the examples of video playback, and I saw that it's better in the 4th generation B/W than in the photo 12:51 < pigats> in the photo it's not fluid 12:58 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool244-153.nas1.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:00 -!- rage- [n=rage@0-1pool255-112.nas6.duluth1.mn.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C7177.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:06 < pigats> is there anyone who's been interessed in the video playback on the ipod? 13:29 -!- Synapse- is now known as Synapse 13:35 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:53 < [HH]_X_RAY> there is video playback on ipod with no sound 13:53 < pigats> [HH]_X_RAY, yes, I saw 13:56 < pigats> [HH]_X_RAY, but I saw that the quality of the playback is better in the B/W fourth generation ipod than in the color one 13:56 -!- Z_Man [n=zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 13:56 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 13:59 < pigats> I would know if the problem will be fixed or if it's a technical limit of the ipod 14:14 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd08e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:39 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951A4D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:41 -!- dalurka [n=dalurka@holly.rsn.bth.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:53 -!- disident [n=sylvain@81.56.229.42] has joined #ipodlinux 15:03 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 15:21 -!- bleuu [n=blew@stjhnf0111w-142162137178.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:27 -!- disident [n=sylvain@81.56.229.42] has quit ["m'en vais bye"] 15:30 -!- ShiintoRyuu [i=yami@pD951A4D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [" GNU - Generally No Understanding"] 15:59 -!- Asraniel_ [n=Asraniel@122.44.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 16:00 -!- Asraniel [n=Asraniel@101.206.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 -!- acs [n=acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:18 -!- Cippo_ [n=cippo@ti521110a080-1062.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:19 -!- Cippo [n=cippo@ti521110a080-2025.bb.online.no] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:19 -!- Cippo_ is now known as Cippo 16:24 < Zol> hey 16:24 < Zol> is holding the menu button supposed to do anything in linux? 16:28 -!- [HH]_X_RAY [n=huh@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------] 16:35 < Zol> can anyone tell me how to make the start file for windows? 16:41 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 16:43 < Z_Man> http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0509ipod.html <-- looks like a 3g mini with color 16:44 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162054231.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:58 -!- still- [n=sbz_7@HSE-Montreal-ppp3466004.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 < rage-> ~mpd 17:03 < rage-> lame! 17:07 < still-> need help 17:07 < rage-> do I? 17:07 < veteran> ~mpd 17:07 < iplbot> Music Player Daemon(MPD) is just that. MPD homepage is at http://musicpd.org Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD for information pertaining to iPodLinux (including installation instructions). [from veteran] 17:08 < still-> no, i need help 17:08 < rage-> you could make firefox stop freezing on me... o.0 17:08 -!- acs [n=acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 17:08 < rage-> one of the 3 links I've been clicking on the mpd site freezes me! 17:08 < rage-> well gl still- :) 17:08 < Zol> does anyone have iPL here? 17:08 < rage-> yes, I got mine going 17:09 < Zol> you had a 4g right? 17:09 < rage-> yes 17:09 < Zol> color? 17:09 < rage-> yup 17:09 < Zol> what OS is your comp running? =o 17:09 < rage-> linux 17:09 < Zol> ah 17:09 < Zol> thats probably why 17:09 < Zol> can you help me? 17:10 < still-> do I need linux, for lets say, puting doom on my iPod Photo? 17:10 < Zol> i need you to list the iPL menu -_- 17:10 < Zol> still: yes 17:10 < rage-> I don't believe so still- 17:10 < still-> becuase i have dual bootup right now 17:10 < still-> runing with 2000, xp pro 17:10 < rage-> you can download a zilla with doom included and get that working (floydzilla for one) 17:11 < rage-> or you can install cygwin I think if you want to compile it in yourself 17:11 < Zol> ya need iPL to get it running 17:11 < Zol> because you need to get to the file browser 17:11 < rage-> Zol, so you can adjust the contrast? 17:11 < Zol> and activate doom from there 17:11 < Zol> rage- yes, and also so i can tell if i really have linux or not 17:11 < rage-> well do you hear clicks? 17:11 < Zol> can you tell me what's in the setting's menu? 17:11 < rage-> I'm afraid not right now 17:12 < rage-> I have floydzilla on my ipod atm 17:12 < Zol> rage, i want to know if i really ahve ipl, or if i'm navigating a maze of confusion 17:12 < Zol> my settings menu has 9 options 17:12 < Zol> used to have 16 17:12 < still-> Zol, do you know anyway that I can Transfer Photos from my iPod to my pc? 17:13 < Zol> lol 17:13 < Zol> for that you had to drag and drop photos into ipod 17:13 < Zol> then they'll stay in the same format 17:13 < Zol> and you can copy onto your other p 17:13 < Zol> c 17:13 < Zol> pc 17:13 < still-> so the pics are suppose to show up in itunes? 17:14 < Zol> still- 17:14 < Zol> where are the pictures? 17:14 < Zol> are they only on the ipod, or are they on another pc as well 17:14 < still-> they are on my ipod, i lost a partition, and i want to put them back on my computer 17:15 < Zol> whats a partition? o.o 17:15 < rage-> lol 17:15 * Zol uses windows 17:15 < rage-> windows uses partitions too :) 17:15 < rage-> if you tell it to 17:16 < Zol> oh 17:16 < Zol> so the photos are ONLY on your ipod 17:16 < Zol> in the stupid itunes format 17:16 < still-> yeah...i lost the pics on my comp due to a format 17:16 < still-> yeah 17:16 < still-> exactly 17:17 < rage-> Zol, I have to go now, I'll be back later and if I put podzilla back on my ipod I'll help you navigate 17:18 < Zol> hmm 17:18 < Zol> i dunno 17:18 < Zol> try ipodhacks 17:18 < Zol> iPodHacks.com 17:20 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 < still-> thx 17:20 < still-> well, ill bbl 17:20 < still-> thanks for help 17:20 -!- still- [n=sbz_7@HSE-Montreal-ppp3466004.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 17:28 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:35 -!- Asraniel_ [n=Asraniel@122.44.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:44 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:57 -!- blake_ [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:03 -!- ocho [n=rsquad-o@24-159-201-195.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 < pigats> anyone in the chat? 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20:24 * josh_ 20:25 < josh_> (sometimes) 20:25 < rage-> well after having some troubles with the MPD that mr. floyd included in his build 20:25 < rage-> I wanted to see if I can get any better luck building podzilla on my own 20:25 < josh_> you'll have even worse results on your own, probably 20:25 < rage-> oh? 20:25 < rage-> why's that 20:25 < josh_> there's a few bad bugs in pz+mpd cvs right now 20:26 < rage-> yeah 20:26 < rage-> well I had to dick around for a while just to get the ipod to start up with floydzilla 20:26 < josh_> yeah 20:26 < rage-> it kept getting memory errors or something like that when updating the db file 20:26 < josh_> oh, odd 20:26 < josh_> mpd is a huge memory hog 20:26 < rage-> then again, it was adding a few thousand songs 20:26 < josh_> ah, that might do it 20:26 < rage-> how much memory does the ipod have? 20:27 < josh_> 32MB 20:27 < josh_> and mpd uses >16MB 20:27 < rage-> well still 20:27 < rage-> it shouldn't have run out 20:27 < josh_> remember: 20:27 < josh_> since this is uclinux, even if you have a meg here and a meg there and you want to allocate 1.5 mb, it'll fail 20:27 < josh_> the memory you allocate has to be contiguous; if it's fragmented you'll get failed allocs 20:28 < rage-> meh 20:28 < josh_> the iPod has no MMU, so it can't do vm to give the program a contiguous block that points to discontiguous physmem 20:28 < rage-> why is it like that 20:28 < josh_> 13:28 < josh_> the iPod has no MMU, so it can't do vm to give the program a contiguous block that points to discontiguous 20:28 < josh_> physmem 20:29 < rage-> what other bugs are there in mpd+podzilla? 20:30 < josh_> freezes 20:33 < rage-> have you ever gotten it even somewhat working? 20:34 < josh_> no 20:34 < josh_> but courtc has 20:35 < rage-> hrm 20:35 < rage-> well I played a song or two last night 20:35 < rage-> between the freezes 20:35 < rage-> my biggest problem was the songs being listed all funky 20:35 < rage-> with lots of blank lines 20:35 < rage-> or lines with "ok" at the end or something like that 20:35 < rage-> I just had a mp3 folder on there that I copied the files over manually 20:35 < rage-> not with itunes 20:35 < josh_> sounds like bad tags 20:35 < josh_> your ID3 tags are messed up or nonexistent or the wrong format 20:36 < rage-> most of my stuff doesn't have Id3 though 20:36 < josh_> exactly the problem 20:36 < rage-> uh 20:36 < josh_> pz doesn't know how to classify it 20:36 < josh_> so where can it put it? 20:36 < rage-> so if it doesn't have an id3 tag it doesn't know what to do with it? 20:36 < rage-> wouldn't it just use the file name? 20:36 < rage-> which I'm pretty sure it did 20:36 < josh_> it would use the file name in the Songs menu 20:36 < rage-> because when I managed to scroll more than a page or two down, I saw most of my music 20:36 < josh_> but there would be no entry in Artists / Albums, I believe 20:37 < josh_> the blank lines are caused by *broken* tags 20:37 < josh_> wrong format or something 20:37 < josh_> if I understood courtc right 20:38 < rage-> well 20:38 < rage-> I have my directory structure as such 20:38 < rage-> mp3folder/Artist Name/Album Name/song.mp3 20:38 < rage-> and I think it was at least somewhat figuring it out 20:39 < rage-> not sure though 20:39 < rage-> I'll take a look now 20:39 < rage-> and hope it doesn't freeze 20:39 < rage-> weird thing is.... 20:40 < rage-> it displays a weird bunch of stuff in the console before starting mpd and podzilla 20:40 < rage-> after doing mpd --update 20:40 < josh_> cd mp3folder; for artist in *; do cd $artist; for album in *; do cd $album; for file in *.mp3; do song=`echo $file | sed 's/.mp3$//'`; id3tag -a$artist -A$album -s$song -2; done; done; done 20:40 < rage-> unhandled something or other 20:40 < rage-> forgotten already 20:40 < josh_> odd 20:42 < rage-> hrm 20:42 < rage-> some albums are listing 20:42 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:42 < rage-> and I've got it playing music right now :) 20:42 < rage-> I had to edit floyd crap to get it right... 20:42 < rage-> he had hda2 mounting to /hp 20:42 < rage-> and some stuff messed in /etc/rc 20:42 < josh_> /hp is the default for the Windows installer 20:43 -!- birostick [i=stonetak@25-77.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:43 < josh_> and it's assumed that if you installed with Linux you'll copy the files with Linux 20:43 < BeOSMrX> hey josh_ 20:43 < BeOSMrX> nice to see you again 20:43 < josh_> hi 20:43 < BeOSMrX> i need some quick lunix help 20:44 < josh_> ##linux 20:44 < rage-> I just downloaded his .zip from his site and extracted it... 20:44 < BeOSMrX> no no 20:44 < rage-> he's using windows, not I :o 20:44 < BeOSMrX> they are buzy right now 20:44 < josh_> wait until they're not busy 20:44 < josh_> this is #ipodlinux 20:44 < BeOSMrX> i know 20:44 < josh_> unless your question has to do with ipodlinux, don't ask it here. 20:44 < BeOSMrX> but you know everything 20:44 < josh_> no I dont 20:44 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:44 < josh_> *don't 20:44 < josh_> and flattery isn't going to get you anywhere 20:45 -!- blake_ is now known as veteran 20:45 < rage-> wow 20:45 < rage-> denied 20:46 < veteran> anyone here good with the terminal in osx? 20:46 < BeOSMrX> yes 20:46 < veteran> actually it might be a vi problem... all of a sudden it's showing tabs very very wide 20:46 < josh_> yes 20:47 < veteran> hm yep vi problem. 20:51 < BeOSMrX> every one listen to josh_ he knows what he's talking aboot 20:51 < veteran> of course, he has a _ at the end of his name. 20:52 < josh_> huh? 20:53 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:54 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < rage-> hrm 21:12 < rage-> mp3.c:36: ippdefs.h: No such file or directory 21:12 < rage-> mp3.c:37: ippAC.h: No such file or directory 21:12 < rage-> make: *** [mp3.o] Error 1 21:12 < rage-> getting that when trying to make podzilla 21:13 < josh_> you need to make IPP 21:13 < josh_> or compile MPDC=1 21:13 < rage-> when I do MPDC=1 21:13 < rage-> I get: 21:13 < rage-> mp3.c:36: ippdefs.h: No such file or directory 21:13 < rage-> mp3.c:37: ippAC.h: No such file or directory 21:13 < rage-> make: *** [mp3.o] Error 1 21:13 < josh_> odd 21:13 < josh_> ask courtc 21:13 < josh_> I'm not a podzilla dev 21:15 * rage- looks for courtc 21:15 < rage-> I see him, but is he home? :) 21:15 < josh_> her 21:15 < josh_> and might be away right now 21:16 < davidc_> he might be outside your door right now! 21:16 < davidc_> just standing there... 21:16 < rage-> she* 21:16 < davidc_> and waiting. 21:17 < davidc_> rage- haha. 21:17 < rage-> well it's obvious 21:17 < davidc_> rage- obvious? 21:17 < rage-> I'm missing ippdefs.h and ippAC.h 21:17 < rage-> they are not there :) 21:17 < davidc_> rage- and courtc is a he. 21:17 < rage-> where should they come from 21:17 < davidc_> rage- he just likes to fuck with everyones mind 21:17 < rage-> *shrug* 21:17 < rage-> was just going off of what josh was saying 21:18 < davidc_> you're missing the helix decoder package. IIRC. 21:18 * josh_ going off what courtc was saying 21:18 < davidc_> yeah, courtc just likes fuckin with everyones mind. 21:18 < davidc_> [sorry to spoil your fun courtc] 21:18 < josh_> prime example of that: http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=User:Courtc&oldid=5669 21:20 < rage-> davidc_, I did the helix stuff though o.0 21:20 < veteran> ((courtc is hot)) 21:20 < rage-> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla 21:21 < rage-> I'm following that 21:21 < veteran> we just call her "he" for her protection 21:21 < josh_> *his* protection? :P 21:23 < josh_> note to whoever enabled thread support in iPod-SDL: it doesn't work and it crashes. 21:24 -!- BeOSMrX [n=user@S010600a0cc2650ac.va.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:26 -!- protricity [i=Prot@ip70-162-11-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:26 < protricity> (14:26:34) -MemoServ- Error: You have no friends. 21:26 < protricity> wtf 21:27 < josh_> haha 21:34 -!- OPP [n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:34 < OPP> hello 21:34 < davidc_> courtc is so full of shit. 21:36 < josh_> hi 21:38 < OPP> i got a case today 21:39 < davidc_> OPP - case of beer? 21:39 < davidc_> if so, share it around! 21:39 < OPP> a case of rubber 21:39 < OPP> for my ipod 21:40 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:41 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:45 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:51 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:57 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:07 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:22 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10297.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:27 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:30 -!- OPP [n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:32 -!- Capso [n=guest@unaffiliated/capso] has joined #iPodLinux 22:32 -!- Capso [n=guest@unaffiliated/capso] has left #iPodLinux [] 23:13 -!- _matt [n=matt@ACC859ED.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:24 -!- _matt [n=matt@ACC859ED.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:36 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d36-85-214.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:56 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0122w-142162054231.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Sun Sep 04 00:00:00 2005