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00:08 < DansFloyd> hello everyone
00:10 < DansFloyd> for MPD, in the 'mpd.conf' i made the 'music_directory "iPod_control/Music" for windows. Is that any different for the MAC?
00:11 < DansFloyd> i dont use mac so i dont know these things
00:11 < josh_> music_directory "/"
00:11 < josh_> or
00:11 < josh_> music_directory "/iPod_Control/Music"
00:11 < josh_> the former will take longer but may produce better results
00:12 < DansFloyd> ok, thansk
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00:23 < coob> wow, this mpd thing rocks!
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00:35 < Capso> Heh.
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01:33 < zsr> on the recording, they should add a microphone boost or something
01:33 < zsr> really quiet
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03:18 < mikeylove> mikey!
03:19 < mikeylove> are you there, mikey?
03:19 < mikeylove> mikey?
03:19 < mikeylove> well, somebody tell mikey not to use the nickname mikey anymore.
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03:20 < mikey> goodbyes.
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08:57 < vptr> from where i can get arm compiler for linux? because it seems to be tricky
08:59 < ILikeLinux> vptr, you have to make a toolchain for gcc, but dont ask me how.
09:01 < vptr> oh, compiling gcc sux a bit ;]
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09:30 < Vikking_> how do i upgrade my kernel?
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09:32 < Vikking_> ?
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09:39  * Vikking_ how do i update my kernel?
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09:55 < Jack_MD> Vikking_: which OS do you use?
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10:12 < Vikking_> mac os x 10.4.2
10:14 < Vikking_> Jack_MD: so what must i do?
10:14 < Jack_MD> did you use the mac installer?
10:14 < Vikking_> yeah
10:16 < Jack_MD> ok... you can use the installer to uninstall iPL and then update the installer with a nightly build and then install iPL again
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10:17 < Jack_MD> which version of the installer did you use? 0.4?
10:18 < Jack_MD> Vikking_?
10:18 < Vikking_> k
10:18 < Vikking_> yeah
10:19 < Jack_MD> I'll have to download the version..
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10:31 < iMark> do all generations use the same kernel and podzilla builds?
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10:39 < disident> yes
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12:54 < Schneo> hey can i get a bit of help with building podzilla with mpd.... i get a bunch of errors....?
12:56 < Schneo> ......guess not then
12:57 < Schneo> more detail: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3410 ..... if anyone doesn't mind helping
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13:29 < Schneo> anyone there yet?
13:34 < Jack_MD> yep
13:35 < Schneo> would you be able to help with a problem like that one:  http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3410 ?
13:40 < Jack_MD> no, mpd is not my business.. :(
13:41 < Schneo> so you haven't tried compiling podzilla with MPDC=1?
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13:51 < Jack_MD> Schneo: right
13:52 < Schneo> k
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14:01 < pixelique> hellou
14:02 < Schneo> hey
14:02 < Jack_MD> hi
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16:40 < Nikosapi> Hello!
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16:45 < WRCF-FM> hmm, i just got brave and tried ipl on my 30gb photo...... i like!
16:46 < Schneo> yeah.... if i knew of ipl i would've gotten an ipod photo rather than the mini i got
16:46 < WRCF-FM> heh
16:47 < Schneo> seemed stupid to pay an extra $150 to view photos
16:47 < WRCF-FM> i would have gotten a standard monochrome 20GB but the guy in front of me in the store got the last one so i got a photo instead
16:47 < Schneo> but no.... it would be extra $150 to play doom
16:48 < Schneo> k.... making a 'sleep' feature for my ipod.... bak to work
16:49  * WRCF-FM wonders how to add things now
16:49 < Schneo> what kind of things?
16:49 < WRCF-FM> what i want most is video
16:49 < Schneo> you got cygwin?
16:49 < WRCF-FM> i'm on a mac
16:50 < Schneo> oh right
16:50 < Schneo> check the forums
16:53 < Nikosapi> Can anyone here look over some very simple C code that I wrote, I seem to be having problems with printf
16:54 < Schneo> suppose i could look....... not making any promises tho
16:55 < Nikosapi> thanks, here's the link http://nikosapi.no-ip.info/nikosapi/ipodlinux/count.c
16:56 < Schneo> what compile string did you use and what did the compiler say?
16:57 < Nikosapi> there's no problem compiling it's just that printf seems to repeat it self
16:57 < Schneo> ah ok
16:58 < Schneo> i am sure if i wasn't half alseep i could help you
16:59 < Nikosapi> I think it's beacuse it sees the character that's been typed plus the "enter" button so it prints twice
16:59 < Nikosapi> because if I type say, 3 or 4 letters it will print 3 or 4 times
17:00 < Schneo> well then that might be it
17:00 < Schneo> but you should get someone else to look at the code
17:00 < Nikosapi> so how do i limit it to reading only the first inputted character?
17:00 < Schneo> but people here don't seem to be... there
17:01 < Nikosapi> lol
17:02 < Nikosapi> Hello!!! Anybody!!! help.... *yelling at the monitor*
17:04 < Schneo> yup..... thats what've been doing when trying to get some help with something
17:04 < Schneo> then gave up
17:05 < Nikosapi> meh, I'll wait here, I got stuff to do on the computer anyway
17:05 < Schneo> yup.... thats what i am doing
17:06 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: hi, what do you want to do with the script? I know a bit C, maybe I can help you
17:06 < Schneo> well there you go
17:07 < Nikosapi> its just supposed to count up and down
17:08 < Nikosapi> and reset to zero when play/pause is inputted
17:09 < Nikosapi> compile it and youll see what I mean when you execute it
17:11 < Nikosapi> here's a version for the ipod http://nikosapi.no-ip.info/nikosapi/ipodlinux/countpod
17:12 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: I don't really understand what you want to do (excuse my english please, I'm not a native english speaker)
17:12 < Nikosapi> What language do you speak? 
17:12 < Jack_MD> German
17:13 < Nikosapi> ohh, can't speak that...
17:13 < Jack_MD> well, try to explain me what you want to do
17:14 < Nikosapi> I'm making a little program that counts up by ones when you press the >> button on the ipod
17:14 < Jack_MD> it counts the number of "pressings"?
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17:16 < Nikosapi> no, you press the >> button, then the center button, and it prints "the number is 1". Next time you press >> and center it prints "the number is 2"
17:16 < Nikosapi> and so on
17:17 < Jack_MD> ok, understood
17:18 < Jack_MD> and, what if you press <<?
17:18 < Nikosapi> it goes down by one
17:18 < Nikosapi> and play/pause resets to zero
17:20 < Jack_MD> ah, that should be easy
17:20 < Nikosapi> yes it should be
17:21 < Nikosapi> but it's not working properly
17:21 < Jack_MD> why do you use "case" instead of "if"?
17:21 < Schneo> case is generally much better
17:21 < Jack_MD> ok
17:21 < Nikosapi> it's faster, 
17:22 < Nikosapi> and there's less a chance that i screw up
17:22 < Schneo> 'if' gets messy
17:22 < Nikosapi> exactly
17:22 < Schneo> an i just completed the 'sleep' feature for my ipod :D
17:22 < Nikosapi> really? what does it do?
17:23 < Schneo> well normally the ipod goes into 'sleep' mode after a while.... doesn't do that on ipod linux
17:23 < Schneo> so i had to make an alternative to that
17:23 < Nikosapi> ohh
17:23 < Schneo> so that it doesn't drain the battery when not being used
17:24 < Nikosapi> ok
17:24 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: why do you use 0==0 instead of !false?
17:24 < Nikosapi> because im slow
17:25 < Nikosapi> wouldn't it be true
17:25 < Nikosapi> like: while (true)
17:25 < Nikosapi> ohh I forgot what ! is, never mind
17:28 < Schneo> hmm its 3:30AM here..... might go get some sleep or something
17:28 < Schneo> 'nite all
17:28 < Jack_MD> Schneo: yep, good idea! :D
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17:29 < Jack_MD> ok, !false doesn't work, but there is another, better way
17:29 < Nikosapi> ya i just tried it
17:29 < Nikosapi> lol
17:30 < Nikosapi> did you try it out?
17:31 < Jack_MD> now I'm using 0==0, but there should be a better way.. I'll look into my book..
17:31 < Jack_MD> omg, my english is extremely bad
17:33 < Nikosapi> so what, I speak english as my main language and it's really bad
17:33 < Jack_MD> *g*
17:33 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: the printf function shows up two times, is that your problem?
17:34 < Nikosapi> yes
17:35 < Jack_MD> mh.. strange..
17:35 < Nikosapi> i think it's because it sees both the character and the enter key as characters so it prints for both of them
17:35 < Jack_MD> try to use if instead of case, only for testing
17:36 < Jack_MD> maybe
17:37 < Nikosapi> i think it is because if you type 10 characters then it will print 10 times
17:38 < Jack_MD> yep, you're right. the enter is counted too
17:38 < Nikosapi> sorry 10 characters prints 11 times
17:39 < Jack_MD> *g* yes
17:40 < Jack_MD> the break is used to get out of the case?
17:40 < Nikosapi> yes, i believe so
17:41 < Jack_MD> ok
17:44 < Jack_MD> "if" doesn't work :(
17:44 < Nikosapi> sure it does
17:45 < Jack_MD> mh.. I'll take a look at getchar()
17:46 < Nikosapi> I got if to work like this: http://nikosapi.no-ip.info/nikosapi/ipodlinux/count2.c
17:48 < Jack_MD> ah!
17:48 < Nikosapi> "ah!" What!
17:49 < Jack_MD> oh.. it's like: "interesting"!
17:49 < Nikosapi> oh
17:49 < Nikosapi> got me excited there for a second
17:51 < Nikosapi> i found the answer!
17:52 < Nikosapi> in my big book o' C
17:52 < Nikosapi> let me test it
17:52 < Jack_MD> what's the answer? (42?)
17:54 < Nikosapi> you have to create a loop that reads the input until the new line (that is created by pressing enter) 
17:54 < Nikosapi> im not sure exactly
17:54 < Jack_MD> oh! too easy to know
17:55 < Nikosapi> it was in my book under the getchar command
17:56 < Jack_MD> lol
17:59 < Nikosapi> ha it works!!!!!1
17:59 < Nikosapi> *!
17:59 < WRCF-FM> i'm liking this all except the vipodzilla graphics aren't working
18:00 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: are you a cygwinuser?
18:00 < Nikosapi> no, linux!
18:00 < WRCF-FM> haha
18:00 < Jack_MD> mh.. damn, I need a cygwin user
18:00 < WRCF-FM> i hate cygwin
18:01 < Jack_MD> me too, but I need a tester
18:01 < Nikosapi> im on a windows machine now but i have an ssh connection open to my server
18:01 < Nikosapi> so im still in linux, kinda
18:01 < WRCF-FM> all mac / linux here, my only windows box is a stream server
18:01 < Nikosapi> here's the new source http://nikosapi.no-ip.info/nikosapi/ipodlinux/count3.c
18:02 < Jack_MD> WRCF-FM: me too, but I don't have a machine running windows here
18:02 < WRCF-FM> lol
18:02 < Jack_MD> Nikosapi: nice code
18:03 < Nikosapi> the only reason i've got windows is because of my parents
18:03 < Nikosapi> I got it from my book
18:03 < WRCF-FM> only reason i have it at all is because sam3 doesn't run on anything else
18:04 < Nikosapi> sam3?
18:04 < WRCF-FM> what i run my stream with
18:04 < WRCF-FM> www.dingo100.tk
18:04 < Nikosapi> oh
18:07 < WRCF-FM> linux doubles all my playlists for some reason (two of the same playlist)
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19:00 < duke> hey dudes and dudnesses
19:01 < duke> am i right or ist isn't it possible to mount the ipod on a linux-machine with ipodlinux running on the ipod ?
19:01 < duke> or am i missing something?
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19:03 < duke> i just get that with a running apple-os
19:03 < duke> dmesg outputs: Aug 27 20:58:46 b0x kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023
19:03 < duke> but in /proc/scsi/scsi there's no new device appearing like with the apple os
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19:07 < Nikosapi> I know that someone was able to telnet an ipod while in ipodlinux, but actually mount it, i don't think so.
19:07 < duke> true?
19:07 < duke> ok, nice to know
19:08 < duke> but is it such a hassle?
19:08 < Nikosapi> search the forums, it was an old post, you should be able to find it
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19:08 < duke> Nikosapi, k thx
19:08 < Nikosapi> check this http://www.ipodlinux.org/Ethernet
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19:09 < Nikosapi> step by step instructions
19:10 < duke> wow, cool
19:10 < duke> i'll have a look
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19:11 < duke> "The iPod kernel also includes NFS client support which has been used with some success. If you export file systems from your host PC, you can mount them on your iPod."
19:11 < duke> thats what i was loking for..
19:11 < duke> so i could gtkpod with ipodlinux running on my ipod
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19:21 < Mr530> hey all
19:21 < duke> ai
19:21 < Mr530> i need some help
19:22 < Mr530> how do i write a start file for podzilla
19:22 < Mr530> for 4g color
19:22 < Mr530> even tho its unsupported...
19:22 < Mr530> lol
19:22 < Mr530> what lines to i need to have?
19:22 < duke> take a look at the other start files that are around
19:23 < Mr530> i can't find them
19:23 < duke>  /etc/rc ...
19:23 < Mr530> ?
19:24 < Mr530> mv hppodzilla sbin
19:24 < Mr530> rm hpstart
19:24 < Mr530> is that it?
19:24 < duke> hm
19:24 < duke> no its kinda setup process
19:24 < duke> you better do it by hand once
19:24 < Mr530> what do i write?
19:24 < duke> i don't know
19:24 < Mr530> i made one a long time ago but now i don't remember how
19:25 < Mr530> do you know where i can find one for podzilla?
19:25 < duke> im using ipodlinux on a g3 since 3 days so..
19:25 < Mr530> you know, the nightly builds
19:25 < Mr530> have u evver updated it tho?
19:25 < duke> tried floydzilla
19:26 < duke> which find truly better than the std podzilla
19:26 < Mr530> floydzilla will be better once they work out the bugs
19:26 < Mr530> i used to have it
19:26 < Mr530> but i cant' get the mic to work on it
19:26 < duke> i like the alec zapka fontsets :)
19:26 < Mr530> lol
19:26 < duke> snap
19:26 < duke> yeah
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19:55 < sliverq> hey, guys
19:55 < sliverq> I was wondering, is there a tool for updating the kernel on windows?
19:55 < sliverq> Or, how would i go about writing it/doing it in the terminal?
20:01 < duke> windows or linux?
20:01 < duke> just snap a knoppix live cd an follow the linux manual
20:03 < sliverq> oh, windows.  my knoppix don't boot anymore... I can use linux to do it and have been, but it'd be nice to be able to do it here
20:03 < sliverq> (on my desktop)
20:06 < McStar> keep getting "no rom specified" on iboy can anyone help?
20:07 < iMark> did you specify a rom?
20:07 < McStar> how :)
20:08 < McStar> thought i just had to put gameboy.gb in the ipod root
20:14 < iMark> does the rom work in a normal emulator on your pc?
20:20 < McStar> yes
20:21 < sliverq> wait a minute
20:22 < sliverq> can I write a script to update the kernel
20:22 < sliverq> and run the script on my ipod (like, while it's in linux)
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21:07 < nimmerchen> need some help. why does new_browser_window("/movies"); not work?
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22:37 < virtualball_> hi, how hard is it to set up the podzilla application functions?  I keep geting errors.
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22:50 < ackza> aw so 4g isnt supsorted? wlel then how are they able to play doom on a ipod color?
22:51 < virtualball_> well it can be used, but if you screw up they really cant help, basicly your risk, if you take it, you suffer the consequences
22:52 < virtualball_> just search the forums
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23:16 < ackza> what os should i use foro laoding linux on my 4g?
23:16 < ackza> ciPodzillaa looks like teh best
23:17 < ackza> if i laod it on my 4g, which it seems  expereimnta,wil i stil l be abl eto swicth between llinux and the oroginal apple ipod os?
23:17 < ackza> will it behave the same as my frineds 3g which he can decdie which one to boot  when he starts his ipod?
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