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00:14 < salgado> so, I installed ipl and now, always when I unplug the ipod from the pc, it reboots. is this a known "feature"? is it avoidable?
00:21 < jedix> umm
00:21 < jedix> that always happened
00:23 < salgado> I ask because I find that pretty annoying
00:27 < jedix> yeah, it happens in the ipod firmware too, en
00:27 < jedix> it actually reboots into disk mode whenever plugged in
00:27 < jedix> and reboots when unplugged
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00:43 < salgado> is there some simple way to build the mpd playlists in my computer and then copy it to the ipod?
00:50 < courtc> you can save them with mpdc ;)
00:51 < salgado> eh?
00:52 < courtc> set up the queue how you want it, go into the queue, hold down action, select save.
00:53 < jedix> that's crazy talk.
00:53 < jedix> does the tar file on the website have mpd setup now?
00:54 < salgado> courtc: ah, sorry. I was talking about the database. isn't it a big playlist?
00:54 < courtc> no
00:54 < salgado> (maybe I'm completely wrong. never used mpdc, right now I'm waiting for it to build the db)
00:55 < courtc> I'm working on an itunesdb scanner, but I'm a busy with other stuff atm.
00:59 < courtc> jedix, what tar file?
00:59 < jedix> the `zip file` of the filesystem
01:00 < jedix> but it's a tar file :)
01:00 < salgado> courtc: dude, I really admire you guys. writing all this stuff in C is not for anyone. I would get bored after 2h writing this
01:00 < courtc> jedix, On the website? no
01:00 < salgado> maybe that's just because I'm too used to high level languages
01:02 < courtc> bored? pshaw. High level languages are boring.
01:03 < jedix> courtc: oh, okay.  I have had problems getting it going on my own, which is why I ask.
01:03 < courtc> jedix, you might want to wait until our implementation is a little more mature.
01:06 < salgado> oh, great. the ipod seems to have crashed while generating mpd's database
01:07 < salgado> does mpd scans everything inside iPod_Control/ ?
01:07 < salgado> (while generating the database, I mean)
01:07 < courtc> everything inside of the directory specified in /etc/mpd.conf
01:08 < courtc> it'll only add music files though.
01:08 < salgado> damn lazyness. next time I'll look more carefully through the config file
01:08 < courtc> the music_directory setting is the one you are looking for
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01:09 < gopp> hey
01:10 < gopp> do you how in a podcast, they can spilt a .mp4
01:10 < gopp> as one file
01:10 < gopp> but allow it have many tracks
01:10 < gopp> and you can skip each track, altough it one track
01:10 < gopp> in itunes it even show a art for each track
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01:20 < Nikosapi> Hello everyone!
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02:36 < MrMini> nitey nite nite
02:36 < MrMini> .. bite
02:36 < MrMini> rawr
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04:38 < barney> why does my 3g ipod keep freezing up when i try to access my music through ipod-linux?
04:42 < courtc> because you love podcasts
04:44 < barney> that's true. i do like me a good podcast
04:44 < barney> so i assume that means that if i have podcasts syncing to my ipod, then i can't use linux to listen to my music?
04:45 < courtc> yup
04:45 < courtc> it changes the itunesdb format
04:45 < barney> bummer.
04:46 < barney> so would it work out fine if i didn't set my podcasts to sync to my ipod?
04:46 < barney> or is the db already jacked and it doesn't matter?
04:46 < courtc> I think it'll work again if you remove the podcasts.
04:47 < barney> ok, i'll try that.
04:47 < barney> thanks.
04:48 < barney> do you think it would matter if i stopped using itunes podcast feature, and then just imported the podcasts as regular .mp3 or .aac files?
04:48 < barney> it should see them as just another song, right?
04:51 < courtc> i guess, whatever
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04:54 < barney> well, thanks for the help, courtc 
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05:21 < Person> hello
05:22 < Person> is anyone here?
05:26 < macpod> heh, not here
05:27 < Person> hi
05:28 < Person> ccan you help me real quick?
05:28 < macpod> what is your question?
05:29 < Person> im trying to make a script that I can execute through the file browser in ipl
05:29 < Person> that does
05:29 < Person> rm -f /hp/gameboy.gb; cp /Roms/GB/Mortal\ Kombat\ II.gb /hp/gameboy.gb
05:29 < macpod> I am  celebrating courtcs's 21st birthday
05:29 < Person> awesome
05:29 < macpod> put it in an rc file
05:29 < Person> sweet
05:30 < Person> thanks 
05:30 < Person> i appreciate it
05:31 < Person> that didnt work :(
05:32 < Person> i want it so i can execute it from the file browser
05:32 < macpod> http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html
05:32 < macpod> I have to say I am in no state to answer your question.
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05:32 < Person> i know how to use bash
05:32 < Person> thats cool
05:32 < Person> gettin wasted?
05:34 < courtc> you're celebrating my birthday a day early.
05:35 < macpod> courtc: it is the thought that counts
05:35 < courtc> :D
05:35 < macpod> not to mention I'll be celebrating tomorrow
05:35 < macpod> Now, away with me, I am useless here
05:35 < courtc> it *is* a big occasion ;)
05:36 < macpod> I know, you have finally come to an age where you have to pay welfare tax
05:36 < courtc> :(
05:36 < Person> i turned 21 last month
05:36 < Person> good stuff
05:37 < Standbye> Person whats your problem with the script
05:37 < Standbye> the commands look right
05:38 < Person> i want to make a script that I can execute from the file browser
05:38 < Person> that does
05:38 < Person> rm -f /hp/gameboy.gb; cp /Roms/GB/Mortal\ Kombat\ II.gb /hp/gameboy.gb
05:38 < Standbye> yeh i saw
05:38 < Person> :D
05:38 < Person> what should I name the script?
05:38 < Standbye> normal linux i/d say script.sh
05:38 < courtc> *.sh 
05:38 < Person> i did that,but it didnt work
05:39 < Standbye> starting with #!/bin/bash on the first line
05:39 < courtc> make sure you have a #!/bin/sh shabang
05:39 < Standbye> or the interpreter you want to have
05:39 < Person> i was just about to try that
05:39 < courtc> listen to me ;)
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05:39 < Standbye> and not sure about standard chmods
05:39 < Standbye> perhaps you have to set the execute bit
05:39 < Person> k,im doing it now
05:39 < courtc> you should do that too ;)
05:39 < Standbye> dont know ipl yet don/t get it run on my pod
05:39 < Standbye> ^^
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05:41 < Person> omg
05:41 < Person> i feel so stupid
05:41 < Person> i didnt even have the rom on there
05:41 < Person> doh!
05:42 < Standbye> heh
05:42 < Standbye> ^^
05:42 < Standbye> btw in the script you don/t have to do it with the ;
05:42 < Standbye> use single line for everything
05:43 < Person> oh cool
05:43 < Person> thanks
05:43 < Standbye> makes it more readable
05:44 < Person> hmm,still not working
05:44 < courtc> I thin Standbye means use a line per command.
05:44 < Standbye> ./ok
05:44 < courtc> Person, are you using podzilla to execute it?
05:45 < Person> ya
05:45 < courtc> what does it say?
05:45 < Person> let me see
05:48 < Person> ipod wont mount
05:48 < Standbye> hm is there a special cvs tag for the 4g version or is it also working with the nightly build (yeh i know not supported ;)
05:49 < Person> oh there it goes
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05:50 < Person> it doesent give any errors
05:51 < Person> it does the first command
05:54 < Standbye> have you tried to execute the commands one after other on the shell?
05:54 < Standbye> so to see if they work on their own?
05:54 < Person> ah i put quotes around Mortal\ Kombat\ II.gb and it worked
05:54 < Person> :)
05:54 < Person> thanks for the help guys
05:57 < Standbye> np
05:57 < Person> now i got to do like 30 more of those
05:57 < Person> hehe
05:58 < Standbye> lol
05:59 < Person> gnight all
05:59 < Person> peace!
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08:45 < Nappers> wow, things are *really* happening around here, aren't they :P
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08:58 < xaviercr> hi, I am doing a quick benchmark and I need the time necessary to boot the IPL (from reset to Pozilla ready). Could someone take the time for me on a 3G ? (I have not my iPod here)
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10:19 < Rynkan> hi there! i'm trying to get linux om my ipod mini but iäm getting the "!folder" icon every time, why is that?
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10:33 < Rynkan> sorry, got disconnected, anyone know why the !folder icon shows?
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12:41 < Kunnz> hey guys
12:41 < Kunnz> whatsup
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12:45 < Kunnz> helllo
12:45 < Kunnz> ?
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12:52 < Psy-Dead> hello
12:54 < c05ben> 'ello
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14:41 < MrMini> does anyone know how to import your bookmarks, passwords and stuff like that from firefox to camino?
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16:20 < BeOSMrX> heyooo
16:20 < BeOSMrX> I need some help to make a bash script
16:21 < BeOSMrX> is josh_ here?
16:21 < Cippo> what do you want it to do?
16:22 < BeOSMrX> make it so it adds a line of text to a file
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16:23 < Cippo> hmm, aint perl better for that?
16:23 < BeOSMrX> perl ?
16:23 < BeOSMrX> no I just need to do that one thing
16:24 < Cippo> just add one line at the end?
16:24 < BeOSMrX> yes
16:24 < deusx> echo "Foo" >> file.txt
16:24 < deusx> ?
16:24 < BeOSMrX> echo FOO
16:24 < BeOSMrX> what's that
16:25 < deusx> Prints out "Foo", redirects it to append to the end of a file named "file.txt"
16:25 < Cippo> >> pushes it after the stuff already in the file?
16:25 < Cippo> cool :)
16:25 < BeOSMrX> i don't want to call people foo
16:25 < Cippo> rofl :)
16:25 < BeOSMrX> seriously
16:25 < Cippo> comes from the word Fubar
16:25 < BeOSMrX> this is for BeOS
16:26 < Cippo> foo and bar is alot used when people dont know what to call stuff
16:26 < BeOSMrX> since whe
16:26 < BeOSMrX> when * ?
16:26 < Cippo> donno. long time i guess
16:26 < Cippo> mostly in programming :)
16:27 < BeOSMrX> well just tel me what to do
16:27 < BeOSMrX> i need to edit this file
16:28 < BeOSMrX>  /boot/home/config/boot/UserBootscript
16:28 < BeOSMrX> add a line to it
16:29 < Cippo> echo "line" >> /boot.....script
16:29 < Bi-noix> echo "your stuff" >> /boot/home/config/boot/UserBootScript
16:29 < BeOSMrX> okay
16:29 < BeOSMrX> but what does the echo do
16:30 < Cippo> try it
16:30 < Cippo> in your console
16:30 < Cippo> echo something
16:31 < BeOSMrX> i don't want it to echo tho
16:32 < BeOSMrX> can't it do it silently ?
16:32 < Cippo> >> pushes everything on stdout into the filename given
16:32 < Cippo> it's silent i think
16:32 < BeOSMrX> okay
16:32 < BeOSMrX> but i am on BeOS so it may be different
16:32 < Cippo> it might
16:32 < Cippo> you use bash?
16:32 < BeOSMrX> yes
16:33 < Cippo> then it should work
16:33 < BeOSMrX> k
16:33 < BeOSMrX> i need to get this file to not open with text editor now
16:35 < Bi-noix> why ?
16:36 < BeOSMrX> because it wont run unless it opens properly
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16:39 < BeOSMrX> yay !
16:39 < BeOSMrX> it worked
16:39 < BeOSMrX> thanks
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16:41 < The_Rat> greetings! I love your work
16:41 < BeOSMrX> okay, I guess I can go now.
16:41 < BeOSMrX> thank you Bi-noix
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16:43 < The_Rat> have you thought in developing a graphic calculator? probably using source from www.mupad.de
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16:44 < therat01> have you thought in developing a graphic calculator? probably using source from www.mupad.de
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16:45 < Bi-noix> lol
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16:49 < Standbye> develop it yourself and share it :)
16:52 < gopp> wow this is cool
16:57 < Standbye> ?
17:02 < davidc__> hmm?
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18:18 < Capso> Chirp.
18:24 < jedix> quite
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19:34 < jeff_> hey
19:34 < jeff_> coutrc: you here?
19:35 -!- veteran is now known as coutrc
19:35 < coutrc> yep
19:36 -!- coutrc is now known as veteran
19:36 < veteran> old joke.
19:36 < jeff_> do u hav a xresources file?
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19:47 < Capso> Veteran?
19:47 < Capso> Courtc?
19:47 < veteran> Capso, yes?
19:47 < Capso> Same packetullar structure?
19:47 < Capso> Same pipe?
19:47 < Capso> How could it be!
19:48 < veteran> have you had your eyes checked recently?
19:48 < Kurcz>  
19:48 < Kurcz>  
19:48 < Kurcz>  
19:48 < Kurcz> oops
19:48 < Capso> Veteran: Not lately, no.
19:49 < veteran>     E
19:49 < veteran>    F  P
19:49 < veteran>  T O Z
19:49 < veteran> L P E D
19:49 < veteran> ESFCZP
19:49 < veteran> cover your left eye, and read the top character to me
19:49 < Capso> 3
19:49 < Capso> |-
19:49 < Capso> |2
19:49 < veteran> hm, yes... you need a bigger font.
19:50 < Capso> Alright, joke ends there.
19:50 < veteran> agreed.
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20:43 < maito> :(
20:43 < maito> hey
20:48 < Jack_MD> hi
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21:36 < die_tonight> hey
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21:44 < junland> anyone know where to find the ipod 2005-03-23 updater?
21:44 < aegray> softpedia.com
21:45 < Psy-Dead> yessssssssssssssssss
21:45 < aegray> wuh?
21:46 < Capso> Chirp.
21:46 < iplbot> Chirp.
21:46 < junland> aegray, not finding it
21:46 < Capso> Peach.
21:46 < aegray> then I dunno
21:47 < meatmanek> aegray, how's USB going?
21:47 < aegray> shitty
21:48 < aegray> haven't really worked on too much
21:48 < meatmanek> did you see the usb8x project?
21:48 < aegray> yea
21:48 < aegray> its all in asm though :(
21:48 < aegray> but i need to look through it
21:48 < aegray> thanks for that - good find !
21:48 < meatmanek> hmm.
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21:48 < meatmanek> np
21:48 < Psy-Dead> hows mpd going (in the vaugest regard, all i know is that it started 6 months ago and theres been little announcements about it)
21:48 < Psy-Dead> ?
21:48 < aegray> its an off month
21:49 < aegray> we all work hard on our projects then get bored and stop for a while
21:49 < virtualball_> lol
21:49 < Psy-Dead> whats done so far?
21:49 < Psy-Dead> does it work at all?
21:49 < meatmanek> yes
21:49 < Psy-Dead> cool
21:49 < meatmanek> I believe instructions are somewhere on the wiki.
21:49 < virtualball_> i believe it i slow though, corect?
21:49 < Psy-Dead> better than podzilla's existing playback?
21:50 < aegray> much
21:50 < aegray> you can play games while you listen
21:50 < virtualball_> and can it be done from a macpod?  Theres no start scripts
21:50 < aegray> i duno
21:51 < macpod> yes
21:51 < macpod> yes you can
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21:51 < virtualball_> how then?
21:51 < Psy-Dead> is it near ready for cvs yet?
21:51 < aegray> its in cvs
21:51 < aegray> kinda
21:51 < macpod> It is in cvs
21:51 < virtualball_> ya
21:52  * macpod builds it
21:52 < Psy-Dead> ipl cvs confuses me
21:52 < virtualball_> you need to implement it yourself thpouh
21:52 < aegray> you confuse me
21:52 < Psy-Dead> rockbox cvs is simple as hell
21:52 < Psy-Dead> if its in there, its in there
21:52 < virtualball_> so
21:52 < junland> meh cant find the 2005-03-23 ipod updater anywhere
21:52 < Psy-Dead> pod linux is all like "its in there, it works, but you cant use it without hacking t"
21:52 < junland> shoulda kept the cd
21:53 < Psy-Dead> i may have a copy junlad
21:53 < Psy-Dead> wait a second
21:53 < virtualball_> junland i think i MAY have it
21:53 < Psy-Dead> http://appldnld.m7z.net/content.info.apple.com/iPod/ww/win/061-1679.20050324.PdWDs/iPodSetup.exe
21:53 < Psy-Dead> there you go
21:53 < junland> yea? I'd appreciate it
21:53 < junland> thanks dude
21:53 < Psy-Dead> its the regualar apple link with the date changed :P
21:53 < Psy-Dead> works though
21:53 < junland> this looks like the latest version to me
21:53 < Psy-Dead> oh
21:53 < Psy-Dead> balls
21:53 < junland> same exact file size as the latest updater
21:54 < junland> thanks though
21:54 < virtualball_> 2005-03-23?
21:54 < junland> yes
21:54 < junland> the 4g installer that works with ipodlinux
21:54 < junland> apparently the new one does not
21:54 < virtualball_> ok wuts ur email?
21:54 < junland> protricity@cox.net
21:54 < Psy-Dead> no, its right one
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21:55 < Psy-Dead> LOL
21:55 < Psy-Dead> crappy irc client
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21:56 < virtualball_> sorry my snac 15 minute thing ran out
21:56 < virtualball_> yeesh its 66 megs
21:56 < Psy-Dead> Read Before You Install iPod Updater
21:56 < Psy-Dead> About iPod Updater 2005-03-23
21:56 < Psy-Dead> iPod Updater 2005-03-23 includes new iPod Software 1.1 for iPod with color display. iPod Updater 2005-03-23 contains the same software versions as iPod Updater 2005-02-22 for all other iPod models.
21:57 < virtualball_> ok
21:57 < Psy-Dead> the one i linked is most definitly the right one
21:57 < junland> thats weird
21:57 < junland> installers have the same name and filesize
21:57 < junland> but they are different
21:57 < junland> oh well, thanks Psy-Dead
21:58 < virtualball_> so du u need mine?
21:58 < junland> I suppose not
21:58 < junland> thanks, I appreciate the help
21:58 < Psy-Dead> no problem
21:58 < virtualball_> macpod, I have a question fpr you
21:58 < virtualball_> *for
21:58 < macpod> Are you sure?
21:59 < virtualball_> how would I get MPDC to work from a macpod?
21:59 < virtualball_> oh and yes im sure
21:59 < macpod> follow the directions on the wiki
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22:00 < macpod> It tells you how to install on a mac/windows ipod
22:00 < virtualball_> ok thanks!  Oh and how do you feel about other builds like poke-zilla and yankeezilla
22:01 < macpod> I think they are crap. My opinion has been raised particularly since someone asked how to fix their own podzilla buld
22:01 < aegray> haha
22:02 < virtualball_> haha
22:02 < virtualball_> and does MPD make your music slow?
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22:13 < MrMini> Is there any forum admins online?
22:13 < aegray> why?
22:13 < MrMini> Well i have a plan
22:14 < aegray> whats that
22:14 < aegray> ?
22:14 < MrMini> I want my name to be changed to "~" and a special rank saying "The User Formely Knowen As Mr.Mini"
22:14 < aegray> why?
22:14 < MrMini> dunno, think its funny
22:15 < aegray> denied
22:15 < MrMini> aww
22:15 < aegray> just do ~ (the user formerly known as Mr.Mini)
22:15 -!- meatmanek is now known as `
22:15 < aegray> or submit a request
22:15 < MrMini> you can't change your name can you?
22:15 < aegray> 5 page essay detailing why you deserve it
22:15 < aegray> oh i dunno
22:16 < MrMini> 5 page?
22:16 < aegray> yep
22:16 < MrMini> what font size
22:16 < aegray> and it better be good
22:16 < MrMini> I'll do it
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22:16 < aegray> 12 pt
22:16 < MrMini> ok
22:16 < MrMini> lol
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22:17 < virtualball_> OK macpod what do I do with where the error logs go?
22:17 < virtualball_> with MPD
22:17 < MrMini> Can I make the title 18pt? and include illistations?
22:17 < MrMini> illistrations
22:17 < maito> daamn
22:17 < `> illustrations.
22:18 -!- ` is now known as meatmanek
22:18 < maito> daamn^2, cant even contact anyone here :)
22:18 < admiralaway> my senior year AP english final paper was on Pi, so I had like 10-line-tall equations
22:19 < aegray> thats cheap
22:19 < aegray> No illustrations
22:19 < MrMini> title? and shud it be in letter form to you?
22:19 < aegray> no
22:19 < aegray> no title
22:19 < MrMini> aww
22:19 < aegray> unless its real creative
22:20 < MrMini> this is harsh
22:20 < aegray> and then put it in 12 point bold
22:20 < MrMini> i'll  try my best
22:20  * aegray prepares his lighter to burn an essay'
22:20 < aegray> k
22:20 < virtualball_> hellp?
22:20 < aegray> no
22:20 < virtualball_> awww
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22:24 < virtualball_> Aegray can you help me on MPD?
22:24 < aegray> no
22:24 < virtualball_> why?
22:25 < aegray> especialy not on a macpod
22:25 < aegray> because I'm not really in a good mood
22:25 < aegray> nor will i be for about a month
22:25 < virtualball_> oh ok
22:25 < aegray> so anything will frustrate me beyond belief
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22:39 < MrMini> Im doing quite well, Im on my second paragraph
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22:42 < virtualball_> macpod, how can I make the folder .mpd if mas wont let you?
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22:45 < virtualball_> whenevr I try to play a song it says Unable to connect to MPD
22:46 < MrMini> woot half a page
22:46 < aegray> ur slow
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22:48 < maito> hello
22:48 < maito> does the wiki or some page have instruction on how the file structure should be?
22:48 < virtualball_> what file structure?
22:49 < maito> how the files should be in my ipod
22:49 < maito> i mean
22:50 < virtualball_> as in: userland, menu, etc?
22:50 < maito> dirs
22:51 < virtualball_> u mean like which folders should you have like ; bin, sys, home, etc?
22:51 < MrMini> aegray: Its hard to think of stuff, Im currently righting a full history of my time and the forums poitning out good things i've done
22:51 < maito> uhm yes something like that 
22:51 < MrMini> i don't think i'll get passed a page...
22:51 < virtualball_> well you have to install userland, search the wike
22:51 < virtualball_> *wiki
22:52 < maito> oh
22:52 < maito> okey, thanks
22:52 < virtualball_> p://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Userland
22:52 < virtualball_> are you on a mac?
22:52 < maito> win
22:52 < virtualball_> oh
22:53 < maito> but i wish i had the money for a mac :/
22:53 < maito> well that doesnt help a lot
22:53 < virtualball_> there cheap
22:53 < maito> not for my wallet
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22:53 < virtualball_> lol
22:53 < maito> one thousand and two hundred euros for ibook... 
22:54 < virtualball_> thats like 2500 dollars right?
22:54 < maito> no :P
22:54 < virtualball_> i dunno :p
22:54 < maito> almost 1500 dollas
22:54 < virtualball_> well in america there $999
22:54 < maito> nope
22:54 < maito> i want everything with it
22:55 < virtualball_> oooo
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22:56 < maito> its late now, and i have school tomorrow
22:56 < maito> so good night
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23:09 < MrMini> Ugh... five pages...
23:09 < MrMini> how about 2 1/2?
23:10 < josh_> what for?
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23:17 < MrMini> davidc__: aegray is making me write a 5 page essay to show why i deserve my name and rank to be change on the forums
23:17 < MrMini> surely you could be more symphthetic and give me and easier task to acomplish
23:18 < virtualball_> Ok, macpod can you please help, im lost
23:19 < davidc__> Mrmini - what do you want changed on the forum?
23:19 < davidc__> why your name?
23:19 < davidc__> and whats your rank to do with it?
23:21 < MrMini> I want my name to be "~" and my rank to be " The user formely known as Mr.Mini"
23:21 < virtualball_> haha
23:21 < davidc__> any particular reason?
23:21 < MrMini> I think its funny
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23:22 < davidc__> fine.. I'll assign you an easier topic
23:22 < MrMini> yay
23:22 < MrMini> I've done 3/4 of a page tho on the other obe
23:22 < MrMini> one*
23:23 < davidc__> you must write me a 4.7 page essay on how the romans would interpret the ~ symbol. As soon as you finish aegray's one, you can start on mine.
23:23 < davidc__> However, since you asked for a task from both of us, _both_ need to be done.
23:23 < virtualball_> hahahah
23:23 < maito> :D
23:23 < maito> owned that is 
23:23 < virtualball_> lol
23:24 < MrMini> I do not consider an essay on the romans interpration of a "~" sign an easier task
23:24 < davidc__> ok.. hmmmm...
23:25 < davidc__> I'll need this then... after you finish aegrays paper, you can write me a 2 page list of ways to say "clueless noob" without using either of the words.
23:25 < davidc__> and l33t speak is not allowed.
23:25 < davidc__> they must be clever, like "moronic neanderthal"
23:25 < virtualball_> lol
23:25 < maito> :D
23:25 < MrMini> ok cool.
23:25 < davidc__> or.. hmm....
23:25 < davidc__> but finish aegrays first...
23:26 < davidc__> and this only gets you past the secretary.
23:26 < davidc__> it by no means guarantees your acceptance.
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23:26 < MrMini> But you said you would asign me an easier topic. This is an extentsion of my orginal topic
23:26 < davidc__> well, _I_ assigned you an easier topic
23:27 < virtualball_> i have a question, is it bad if there are folders before "Parent directory" in file browser
23:27 < davidc__> how can I take away what aegray asked for?
23:27 < davidc__> virtualball_: thats stange.
23:27 < virtualball_> ya...
23:27 < davidc__> MrMini: all you asked me was to assign you an easier topic...
23:27 < virtualball_> he does have a point :-P
23:27 < MrMini> yes but your topic requires aegreys topic to be complete
23:28 < davidc__> ok, fine... do them in either order, but you'll need to pass aegrays test too.
23:28 < MrMini> man... you guys are like really really harsh
23:28 < davidc__> you're making an unusual request ;)
23:28 < davidc__> it calls for unusual punishment
23:29 < davidc__> however, I'll ask aegray about the possibility of reducing his requirement
23:29 < MrMini> a request dosent need punishment
23:29 < davidc__> no guarantees though?
23:29 < davidc__> MrMini: but why not?
23:29 < MrMini> yeah, try 2 pages
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23:29 < MrMini> Because a decent man of honer and valour and stuff would answer a request out of the kindness of his heart
23:30 < MrMini> that said, many people have compared you to the devil...
23:30 < virtualball_> thats now my sig
23:30 < MrMini> what is?
23:30 < virtualball_> MrMini: Because a decent man of honer and valour and stuff would answer a request out of the kindness of his heart
23:30 < virtualball_> MrMini: that said, many people have compared you to the devil...
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23:31 < MrMini> wow, i've been quoted...
23:31 < MrMini> thats so cool
23:31 < virtualball_> lol for the wrong reesons
23:31 < MrMini> that remains to be seen...
23:31 < MrMini> by me...
23:32 < davidc__> gah.. doesn't fit in my msn name
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23:32 < MrMini> ic your still using ye old msn
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23:33 < davidc__> MrMini: that and aim and jabber and whatever.
23:33 < MrMini> gtalk is the way forward
23:33 < MrMini> yeah i use lots of stuff too
23:33 < MrMini> like 5im clients
23:33 < virtualball_> plus I dont think Davidc is the devil
23:33 < davidc__>  virtualball_ : I do.
23:34 < virtualball_> u think U are the devil?
23:34 < MrMini> alrite lucifer
23:34 < virtualball_> lol
23:34 < davidc__> ;)
23:34 < MrMini> the old gentleman
23:34 < virtualball_> david, can you run unix scripts from the rc?
23:34 < davidc__> I'm an atheist anyways. My definition of devil is flexible.
23:34 < MrMini> lol
23:34 < davidc__> virtualball_: should be able to.
23:35 < MrMini> I thought i was athiest but then some damn basterd huminist made me do a test and it turns out im huminist... bloody huminists..
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23:39 < MrMini> i'll finish these essays tomoz, cya.
23:39 < maito> hmm
23:40 < maito> can your ipods play music without horrible lagging+
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23:40 < maito> in linux
23:40 < davidc__> haha
23:41 < davidc__> I can't believe he actually wants to do that.
23:41 < maito> what?
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23:44 < davidc__> not you maito 
23:44 < davidc__> was talkin about mrmini
23:44 < davidc__> maito: yes they can.
23:45 < maito> okey
23:45 < maito> thats bad for me :P
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23:52 < duke> hey there
23:54 < duke> just got stuck with my first experiences with linux on ipod
23:54 < duke> my ipd won't start anymore..
23:54 < duke> i mean.. it looks like dead
23:54 < duke> no light.. no screen
23:55 < duke> i turned it off by holding the play button for a few secs
23:55 < maito> plug it to a external power supply?
23:55 < duke> already
23:55 < duke> nothing
23:55 < duke> looks like it wont start anymore
23:56 < duke> just finished the tutorial
23:56 < maito> :<
23:56 < duke> with a hfsplus ipod
23:56 < duke> rebooted.. and it booted a standard apple os songs were killed
23:57 < duke> then i found it strage that no bootloader appeared
23:57 < duke> shut it' off
23:57 < duke> now ist stays like that
23:57 < davidc__> interesting
23:57 < davidc__> umm.
23:57 < davidc__> the hold switch is off right?
23:57 < duke> lol
23:57 < duke> yes indeed
23:57 < duke> :)
23:57 < davidc__> what gen?
23:58 < duke> 3g
23:58 < duke> 15GB
23:58 < duke> found that
23:58 < duke> http://www.macworld.com/forums/ubbthreads/printthread.php?Board=UBB4&main=171054&type=post
23:58 < duke> i never did an software update with that ipod
23:59 < davidc__> ok, try pressing menu + play
23:59 < davidc__> hold for ~ 5 seconds
23:59 < davidc__> you should see an apple logo appear
23:59 < duke> did menu + play
23:59 < davidc__> and it still didn't boot?
23:59 < duke> no
23:59 < davidc__> hmm... what kind of external power supply?
23:59 < davidc__> and have you tried menu + play whilst plugged in?
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