--- Log opened Mon Aug 22 00:00:01 2005
00:01 < ShiintoRyuu> aye
00:01 < ShiintoRyuu> kay thx
00:09 < ShiintoRyuu> hmm
00:10 < ShiintoRyuu> my ipod does not want to run the latest podzilla
00:10 < ShiintoRyuu> but I guess I have to make it run when I want to setup this application? http://www.ipodlinux.org/Text_Input#Installation
00:11 < aptiva> chhmod +x it
00:11 < aptiva> chmod*
00:13 < ShiintoRyuu> ah lol
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00:17 < ShiintoRyuu> yay lol^2 an on-screen keyboard
00:19 < aptiva> ?
00:19 < aptiva> ah
00:36 < nimmerme1r> which functions it to jump back to main menu?
00:37 < nimmerme1r> case 'q':
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			menu_destroy_all(menuz);
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			pz_close_window(menu_wid);
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			GrDestroyGC(menu_gc);
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			exit(0);
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			break;
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 		default:
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			ret |= KEY_UNUSED;
00:37 < nimmerme1r> 			break;
00:37 < nimmerme1r> this one?
00:37 < nimmerme1r>  but doesnt work for me =(
00:41 < nimmerme1r> hehe no is this one ;) case 'm':
00:41 < nimmerme1r> 			if(menuz->parent != NULL) {
00:41 < nimmerme1r> 				menuz = menu_destroy(menuz);
00:41 < nimmerme1r> 				menu_do_draw();
00:41 < nimmerme1r> 				ret |= KEY_CLICK;
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 			}
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 			else {
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 			 pz_close_window (menu_wid);
00:42 < nimmerme1r>           GrDestroyGC(menu_gc);
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 		  pz_draw_header ("podzilla-root");
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 			}
00:42 < nimmerme1r> 			break;
00:42 < Decipha> Don't post that here! #iPodLinux.flood
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00:44 < nimmerme1r> ah thx didnt know that
00:45 < macpod> Congrats bern on the audo support
00:45 < nimmerme1r> so what topic is this channel?
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01:19 < Nikosapi> does anyone know if mpd parses the itunesdb file or if it builds it's db bases on the song's id3 tags?
01:20 < josh> it should parse itunesdb, if you point  music_dir = /mnt
01:20 < MrMini> verteran, enforce your avatar rule, it will be amusing. There are at least 3 ppl with over sized avatars
01:20 < josh> what avatar rule?
01:21 < Nikosapi> ya, what MrMini said!
01:21 < Nikosapi> if your avatar is too big then veteran was supposed to change it too i love windows
01:21 < josh> ah, fun fun
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01:24 < verteran> i'm not a mod, i'm just a typo. sorry MrMini 
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01:24 < MrMini> awww
01:24 < josh> haha
01:24 < Nikosapi> lol
01:24 < MrMini> Well you've lost your bigest fan
01:25 < courtc> hah!
01:25 < veteran> drat: http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/bigfan.jpg
01:25 < josh> haha
01:25 < josh> 4GHz processor, 4 foot fan
01:27 < Nikosapi> hahaha
01:28 < Nikosapi> the new intel extreme p4 with ht is 3.75ghz
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01:45 < davidc__> veteran: yea, can you fix that guys avatar?
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01:47 < courtc> and email wotnot ;)
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02:17 < MrMini> david hows the tv out thingy going?
02:19 < mohavlich> hi, i want to record audio on my ipod, can someone point me in the right direction?
02:20 < zsr> what generation?
02:21 < mohavlich> 4th, i read the site, that its not supported but is there a beta or something?
02:21 < zsr> nope
02:21 < nimmerme1r> hehe in the latest ipod firmware is are allready strings like record and setup mic =)
02:21 < zsr> you have to have an accessory to turn that mode on
02:22 < josh> like an iTalk
02:22 < nimmerme1r> ahh
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02:22 < josh> (which, by the way, works but isn't worth $35)
02:22 < mohavlich> ya but arent they shutty?
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02:22 < zsr> yep
02:22 < josh> the recording is terrible
02:22 < josh> the built-in speaker, though very tinny, can come in handy at times.
02:22 < nimmerme1r> the is also a browse files sting. is there a hidden filebrowser in the apple os ?
02:22 < mohavlich> and how do i access that? i cant?
02:23 < josh> nim: not that I know of
02:23 < mohavlich> so im pretty much better to go with a minidisc recorder or something?
02:24 < josh> you can hook up an actual mic to the iTalk, then it works great
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02:25 < mohavlich> iTalk has a built-in microphone designed to record crystal-clear audio -_-
02:25 < josh> hahaha
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02:25 < mohavlich> so its not worth the money?
02:26 < josh> idk
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02:27 < mohavlich> hmm ok thanks for the help
02:27 < meatmanek> glah.
02:27 < meatmanek> where is aegray...
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02:28 < xenolith> what does the 'elf2flt' switch in arm-elf-gcc do?
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02:29 < courtc> output a bFLT executable ratehr than a ELF one.
02:30 < meatmanek> I found something that may be of use to aegray
02:30 < meatmanek> though I'm not sure
02:31 < meatmanek> the USB support for the ti-84, linked to on slashdot
02:31 < meatmanek> http://usb8x.sourceforge.net/
02:31 < meatmanek> if he comes back sometime tonight after I go to bed, someone give him the link please
02:32 < courtc> haha
02:32 < meatmanek> it could be remotely useful.
02:32 < meatmanek> somehow.
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02:52 < uirazx> everyone knows about a compilaition with rec suport for 4g
02:52 < uirazx> ?
02:52 < Nikosapi> just compile like you normaly would
02:53 < Nikosapi> of get it prebuilt ipodlinux.sf.net/podzilla
02:53 < uirazx> hehe! I dont know do this..
02:53 < uirazx> (and I have the mostly poor english of the world... )
02:53 < Nikosapi> but you need the new kernel
02:54 < Nikosapi> do you know how to update your kernel and podzilla?
02:54 < uirazx> the new kernel compile are disponibile
02:54 < uirazx> yes
02:54 < Nikosapi> vous parlez francais?
02:54 < uirazx> no
02:54 < Nikosapi> oh
02:54 < uirazx> I speak portuguese only
02:54 < Nikosapi> lol
02:54 < Nikosapi> sorry
02:55 < uirazx> or only portuguese
02:55 < uirazx> heheh
02:55 < Nikosapi> the new kernel should be here: http://ipodlinux.sf.net/Image.gz
02:56 < Nikosapi> and podzilla should be here: http://ipodlinux.sf.net/podzilla
02:57 < uirazx> how!
02:57 < uirazx> thanks
02:57 < Nikosapi> no problem
02:59 < uirazx> and these two have supported the 4g rec... right?
02:59 < Nikosapi> yep
02:59 < Nikosapi> i've been recording all night
03:00 < nimmerme1r> hey, why does my IPOD=1 compiled run on my color and the PHOTO=1 not? is the PHOTO=1 really only for the ipod photo?
03:01 < uirazx> thanks again
03:01 < Nikosapi> np
03:02 < uirazx> good bye, for all... 
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03:06 < CIA-11> courtc * tools/podzilla/Makefile: added 'make translate' for generating a translation template file
03:07 < macpod> Wow courtc, you'ce been busy
03:08 < courtc> I added 2 lines to the Makefile.. dunno if you can call that busy.
03:08 < macpod> Well, I
03:08 < macpod> 'm speaking progressively
03:09 < courtc> I'm trying ;)
03:15 < Nikosapi> courtc - I'd like to say thank you, today I was able to spin a cube while listening to Billy Talent, it was awsome!
03:16 < macpod> We should definitly update the userland and make mpd default
03:16 < courtc> working on it..
03:16 < meatmanek> yay.
03:16 < courtc> heh  http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24851#24851
03:16 < Nikosapi> i don't know it's kinda buggy, don't ya think?
03:18 < courtc> not really. needs a better buffer and the itunesdb scanner is shotty thanks to libitunesdb, but it's not really buggy.. at least I never have problems.
03:19 < Nikosapi> hmm, so when you go to the music menu, there aren't a bunch of blank spots, then occasionaly there's an artist or two
03:20  * Nikosapi has problems
03:20 < courtc> nope, I have a full list of artists.
03:20 < Nikosapi> What!
03:21 < courtc> it's probably like that because your id3 tags are screwed.
03:21 < Nikosapi> in what sense?
03:22 < courtc> all senses?
03:22 < Nikosapi> so mpd does read the id3 tags instead of the itunesdb file?
03:23 < courtc> it has the ability to read both, but like I said the itunesdb scanner is shotty.
03:23 < Nikosapi> ok, what are you presently using?
03:23 < courtc> both
03:24 < Nikosapi> how could you be using both?
03:24 < courtc> I use the db scanner for songs in the itunesdb and the id3 tag scanner for files I drag'n drop
03:25 < courtc> it works fine with both
03:26 < Nikosapi> hmm, intersting
03:26 < courtc> if I find a bug I can usually fix it, which is why it works perfectly for me.
03:27 < courtc> other people report problems. I can't fix a bug I can't duplicate.
03:27 < Nikosapi> of course, I understand that.
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03:34 < Nikosapi> could I be getting errors because im using the newer ipod firmware? 
03:35 < courtc> its likely the reason why the the itunesdb isn't working like it should.. could be something else as well though.
03:37 < Nikosapi> no the itunesdb works well, I have another build of podzilla on my ipod without mpd support and the music menu displays fine.
03:38 < macpod> mpd permissions problem?
03:38 < Nikosapi> permissions?
03:38 < courtc> then it's something else. I'm trying to redo the itunesdb scanner anyway.
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03:39 < Nikosapi> hmph.
03:45 < Nikosapi> good night everyone.
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03:54 < A-K> Decipha, did you get mpd working?
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04:16 < Luke> hey =)
04:16 < courtc> hello
04:16 < |DrV> hi
04:16 < Luke> wassup court?
04:17 < courtc> oh, a purdue clic, I see.
04:17 < Luke> yup
04:17 < Luke> he's in PLUG with me
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04:34 < Decipha> A-K... I got the build to work, but mpd doesn't work
04:35 < Decipha> Oh, he's gone
04:37 < davidc__> has anyone seen aegray around recently?
04:38 < courtc> he's moving to school
04:38 < davidc__> ah, k
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04:41 < davidc__> did he have a will-be-back date?
04:42 < courtc> I think he said a few days. (a couple of days ago)
04:42 < davidc__> eh, he also might not have net access there yet.
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05:50 < davidc__> speak of the devil ;)
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07:07 < Izz^> 4G recording = YAY!!!!
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07:12 < fallouty> Izz^ ?
07:12 < fallouty> !!
07:12 < Izz^> Hm?
07:13 < fallouty> (Izz^) 4G recording = YAY!!!!
07:13 < fallouty> heh
07:13 < Izz^> Yeah.
07:13 < Izz^> I'm happy about it.
07:13 < fallouty> got it to work?
07:13 < Izz^> Haven't tried yet..
07:13 < Izz^> ..but I'm happy that someone has had a go at it.
07:14 < fallouty> hmm
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10:41 < megabyte2> hi everybody
10:41 < megabyte2> so
10:41 < megabyte2> anybody home?
10:43 < megabyte2> i think not
10:46 < megabyte2> hmmm
10:46 < v1p3r> im home
10:46 < v1p3r> lo
10:46 < v1p3r> i was just hiding
10:46 < v1p3r> in your bed
10:46 < v1p3r> :|
10:46 < megabyte2> lol
10:47 < megabyte2> could ya help me out with conmpiling podzilla for desktop?
10:48 < v1p3r> i havnt done it for a while but sure
10:48 < v1p3r> whats up?
10:49 < megabyte2> my problem is: it compiles without errors, but when i run ./podzilla, it gives me in the console: corrupts ettings file, blasting
10:49 < megabyte2> and after few seconds microwindows closes
10:49 < megabyte2> hmmm
10:50 < megabyte2> oh ya, and the battery icon flashes like it would be no more power in it :/
10:51 < megabyte2> and after it closes, it gives me too: Powering down.
10:51 < megabyte2> Press action to power on.
10:51 < megabyte2> No poweroff binary available.  Rebooting.
10:51 < megabyte2> thats strange
10:51 < v1p3r> hmm
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10:52 < v1p3r> sounds like a change in the code has broken desktop building
10:52 < v1p3r> are you building on nix or cygwin?
10:52 < megabyte2> ya think so?
10:52 < megabyte2> strange...
10:52 < megabyte2> what about the corrupt settings file thingy?
10:53 < megabyte2> im on linux
10:53 < megabyte2> 2.6 kernel
10:53 < v1p3r> did you use the manual method or the script?
10:53 < megabyte2> manual
10:53 < megabyte2> i hate compile scripts
10:53 < v1p3r> hmm it cant hurt to try
10:53 < megabyte2> lol
10:54 < megabyte2> ive got yesterdays podziulla from CVS
11:00 < megabyte2> well this sux
11:01 < megabyte2> any ideas
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11:05 < megabyte2> IVE GOT IT! cp /etc/podzilla.conf to /ipodlinux/podzilla/
11:06 < megabyte2> nope
11:06 < _KDE> 4g recording works :)
11:06 < megabyte2> still reboots
11:06 < fallouty> it works?
11:06 < fallouty> wow how
11:06 < fallouty> :)
11:06 < megabyte2> only mic and line in
11:06 < megabyte2> shame
11:06 < megabyte2> ive dont have the dock
11:06 < megabyte2> i would like earphone recording
11:07 < fallouty> _KDE how
11:07 < _KDE> hm
11:07 < _KDE> what is line-in?
11:07 < _KDE> in the dock or the headphone port in the ipod?
11:07 < megabyte2> i think in the dock
11:08 < megabyte2> il try
11:08 < _KDE> well there's only mic support
11:08 < megabyte2> wait
11:08 < megabyte2> and mic is from the dock?
11:08 < _KDE> mic is from ipod I'd say
11:08 < megabyte2> ar somethin else
11:08 < megabyte2> mic =earphone ?
11:08 < _KDE> jup
11:08 < megabyte2> COOL!
11:08 < megabyte2> gotta try this
11:09 < fallouty> _KDE you managed to record with headphones ?
11:09 < fallouty> on 4G ?
11:09 < _KDE> you have to build the kernel yourself since it's not in the nightlys yet
11:09 < megabyte2> i know
11:09 < _KDE> no I wait till tomorrow
11:09 < megabyte2> kernel or podzilla
11:09 < ShiintoRyuu> wtf
11:09  * _KDE too lazy to build kernel :P
11:10 < megabyte2> never built kernel
11:10 < fallouty> kind noob, but what exactly are the nighlys, I mean why another build each day? what changes
11:10 < fallouty> kinda*
11:11 < _KDE> nightlys are built every day. they contain the stuff that is in CVS
11:12 < megabyte2> i prefer building kernel myself. it more nerdy
11:12 < megabyte2> lol
11:12 < fallouty> oh cool
11:12 < fallouty> 21 Aug 22:45	leachbj	
11:12 < fallouty> tools/podzilla/audio.c 1.26
11:12 < fallouty> 	allow recording on 4g and photo
11:12 < fallouty> 21 Aug 22:44	leachbj	
11:12 < fallouty> linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/audio.c 1.23
11:12 < fallouty> 	rewrote hardware support added recording for 4g and photo (mic only)
11:12 < fallouty> you guys meant that yea?
11:13 < _KDE> yeah
11:13 < megabyte2> yup
11:13 < _KDE> i read it at ipodlinux.org/blog
11:13 < fallouty> so basicly now I just need to wait for a new nightly build?
11:13 < _KDE> yes
11:13 < megabyte2> why cant you simply compile it urself
11:13 < _KDE> you can...
11:13 < fallouty> probably coz I'm not good at it
11:13 < megabyte2> it looks easy
11:14 < _KDE> i have never build the kernel, only podzilla :/
11:14 < megabyte2> i think its simplier than podzilla compiling
11:14 < megabyte2> fewer libraries than podzilla
11:14 < fallouty> do you guys use floydzilla ?
11:15 < fallouty> a lot of features there, preety nice, I guess it's better then regular podzilla
11:15 < megabyte2> ive got megaZilla
11:15 < megabyte2> lol
11:18 < megabyte2> guys look, great bootimage for ipl: http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:6dHzS_CgKaQJ:romain.perier.free.fr/Gentoo_Lover/DJ-tux.png
11:18 < _KDE> lol
11:18 < _KDE> only on color ipods :/
11:18 < megabyte2> its increfuckazing
11:18 < megabyte2> ill see how it look b&w
11:19 < fallouty> [TXT] 2005-08-22-kernel.bi..> 22-Aug-2005 02:11 189
11:19 < fallouty> [TXT] 2005-08-22-podzilla...> 22-Aug-2005 02:11 189
11:19 < fallouty> isn't it already in the nigtlys?
11:19 < megabyte2> this one's cool: http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:rpZSM2xWYgsJ:ggfr.free.fr/pikachu-tux.png
11:19 < fallouty> that latest cvs update
11:19 < megabyte2> ?
11:20 < fallouty> for recording
11:20 < megabyte2> does it have recording?
11:20 < megabyte2> w00t \0/
11:20 < fallouty> yea http://booc.coob.org/ipl/
11:24 < _KDE> it doesn't
11:24 < fallouty> hmm
11:25 < megabyte2> oh well
11:25 < _KDE> nightly: 02:09 "2005-08-22-kernel.bi..> 22-Aug-2005 02:09"
11:25 < megabyte2> so i need to compile kernel
11:25 < megabyte2> when i finish compiling, i can send to you gys
11:25 < _KDE> added: 03:06
11:25 < fallouty> would be nice
11:25 < megabyte2> or i post it @ the forums?
11:25 < _KDE> no, not necessary
11:25 < fallouty> _KDE I was refering to the record thing
11:26 < fallouty> 03:06 is for the makefile
11:26 < _KDE> tomorrow the nightly is available
11:26 < ShiintoRyuu> is there a way to set up an ethernet link over usb?
11:26 < megabyte2> yea but for the moment we are not tomorrow, but today
11:27 < _KDE> i was talking about p0sting it on the forum
11:28 < fallouty> no need to post on forum :)
11:28 < fallouty> maybe just the fact that it's been fixed ( the news )
11:28 < fallouty> you can send the compiled pod and kernel when you're finished, I'd be happy to test :)
11:28 < megabyte2> ok
11:28 < megabyte2> first i wanna finish my bootloader image
11:29 < megabyte2> upgrading GIMP for the moment
11:37 < ShiintoRyuu> <ShiintoRyuu> is there a way to set up an ethernet link over usb? <- does someone have a clue? :)
11:38 < petemc> no, it only works over firewire
11:38 < _KDE> does it work on 4g's?
11:38 < petemc> no
11:39 < petemc> well, it didnt last i checked, anyway
11:49 < megabyte2> where can i get the ipodloader source?
11:49 < ShiintoRyuu> type make_fw in google
11:50 < megabyte2> oh, i know now it in da cvs
11:50 < megabyte2> thx
12:01 < megabyte2> ok loaderfinished, starting compiling kernel
12:01 < megabyte2> w00t
12:01 < megabyte2> i feel excited
12:01 < megabyte2> lol
12:02 -!- Synapse is now known as eth0
12:02 -!- eth0 is now known as Synapse
12:04 < megabyte2> dling 2.4 kernel
12:05 < megabyte2> 50% downloaded
12:05 < megabyte2> i feel like im talking to a wall
12:06 < megabyte2> :)
12:07 < megabyte2> anybody home???
12:07 < megabyte2> ok, kernel downloaded
12:09 < megabyte2> patching kernel
12:09 < megabyte2> kernel patched
12:12 < ShiintoRyuu> <megabyte2> ok loaderfinished, starting compiling kernel <- I never built anything from cvs :/ I like my gentoo ebuilds and have nearly no clue about cvs versions
12:12 < megabyte2> finally, im compiling!
12:12 < megabyte2> woot
12:13 < megabyte2> *please, no errors*
12:13 < fallouty> megabyte2: you have 4g gray?
12:13 < megabyte2> yep
12:13 < fallouty> great, can't wait to see if recording with headphones works
12:13 < megabyte2> lol
12:13 < megabyte2> me too
12:13 < megabyte2> goddamnit, im excited
12:14 < megabyte2> still compiling..
12:14 < fallouty> heh
12:14 < megabyte2> gaaaah i cant wait...
12:15 < megabyte2> no errors for the  moment
12:15 < megabyte2> *moment
12:16 < megabyte2> god thanks someone made the ipl wiki...
12:16 < megabyte2> COMPILED!!!!!!
12:16 < megabyte2> w00t
12:16 < megabyte2> wehaaaaa
12:16 < megabyte2> no errors!
12:17 < fallouty> nice
12:17 < megabyte2> thx
12:18 < megabyte2> uploading...
12:18 < _KDE> does it work on your ipod, megabyte2?
12:18 < megabyte2> didn't try
12:19 < _KDE> ...
12:19 < megabyte2> lol
12:19 < megabyte2> when ill finish uploading, ill try
12:19 < fallouty> does anyone know if you can update floydzilla ? is it ok to just update the binary podzilla ?
12:19 < fallouty> prolly not
12:19 < _KDE> should work @ fallouty
12:19 < megabyte2> here you are: http://rapidshare.de/files/4245883/linux.bin.html
12:20 < megabyte2> download!
12:20 < fallouty> test it first :)
12:20 < megabyte2> ok, ill do it
12:20 < megabyte2> ye dont want to risk ur ipod, eh?
12:21 < fallouty> don't you need to compile podzilla too ?
12:21 < megabyte2> cchickens!
12:21 < megabyte2> no
12:21 < _KDE> you can build it yourself
12:21 < fallouty> my linux pod is fucked anyway, sees all playlists twice
12:21 < megabyte2> just use the installing from linux guide off the wiki
12:21 < megabyte2> lol
12:21 < _KDE> podzilla needs to be updated too
12:22 < fallouty> that's what I was saying yea :)
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12:22 < ShiintoRyuu> <megabyte2> ye dont want to risk ur ipod, eh? <- I think you cant totally break it?
12:22 < megabyte2> yes
12:23 < megabyte2> but you'll prolly need to reformat the ipod
12:23 < _KDE> theoretically you can
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12:23 < _KDE> if you write to the flash the ipod is most likely broken
12:23 < megabyte2> ok, moment of truth
12:23 < megabyte2> im not writing to the flash
12:23 < megabyte2> im writing to the boot partition
12:23 < _KDE> never said that ;)
12:24 < megabyte2> ok writed...
12:24 < megabyte2> unmounting..
12:24 < _KDE> folder with exclamationb mark? ;)
12:24 < megabyte2> rebooting
12:24 < megabyte2> yep
12:24 < megabyte2> :-(
12:24 < _KDE> :P
12:24 < megabyte2> fuck
12:24 < _KDE> megabyte2: u use the win installer?
12:24 < fallouty> heh
12:24 < megabyte2> say hello to forced disk mode
12:25 < megabyte2> nope, installing from linux
12:25 < _KDE> you have to get the backup image before linux was installed
12:25 < _KDE> otherwise it won't work
12:26 < megabyte2> i did
12:26 < megabyte2> lol
12:26 < megabyte2> phew
12:26 < megabyte2> its prolly something with the loader
12:26 < _KDE> so only apple os was on your ipod when you took the backup?
12:27 < megabyte2> no, ipl and apple
12:27 < megabyte2> phew, irt mounts
12:27 < _KDE> yeah, that's why it doent work
12:27 < _KDE> you have to take the backup when only apple os is on yer ipod
12:27 < fallouty> yet another lame question but how to get the source for the podzilla and the kernel so I can compile them myself... where from ?
12:28 < _KDE> reed the wiki fallouty
12:28 < megabyte2> CVS is ur friend
12:28 < fallouty> CVS yea, but I don't want to get each file manualy do I ..
12:28 < megabyte2> ok backup restored
12:28 < megabyte2> linux or cygwin?
12:28 < fallouty> cygwin
12:28 < _KDE> use the cvs command
12:28 < megabyte2> copmmand line is ur friend
12:28 < _KDE> and read the fuckin wiki
12:29 < megabyte2> phew, my ipod works...
12:29 < megabyte2> thanks god
12:29 < megabyte2> lets try again now
12:30 < megabyte2> what could it be?
12:30 < megabyte2> loader or kernel...
12:30 < _KDE> what?
12:30 < megabyte2> hmmm
12:30 < fallouty> your custom boot loader
12:30 < megabyte2> prolly loader, coz i made it myself
12:30 < megabyte2> yeah
12:30 < fallouty> try default loader for now
12:30 < megabyte2> ill try with da original one
12:31 < _KDE> <_KDE> you have to take the backup when only apple os is on yer ipod
12:32 < megabyte2> ok, trying with original loader
12:32 < megabyte2> writing...
12:32 < megabyte2> ok, wrote
12:33 < megabyte2> unmounting...
12:33 < megabyte2> fuck
12:33 < megabyte2> still exlamation mark
12:33 < megabyte2> means its da kernel
12:33 < fallouty> :|
12:33 < megabyte2> or i made somethin wrong again...
12:34 < _KDE> maegabyte2: the problem is the wrong backup
12:34 < _KDE> <_KDE> you have to take the backup when only apple os is on yer ipod <-- it really won't work otherwise
12:35 < fallouty> http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building , very nice yea but I'm lost
12:35 < megabyte2> ye think
12:35 < megabyte2> but i only use the backup for erm... bacvkuping!
12:35 < _KDE> fallouty: try building podzilla first, it's easier
12:35 < megabyte2> for modyfying loader i use the extracted one from the ipod
12:36 < megabyte2> i already buit podzilla
12:36 < fallouty> KDE yea but I still need to build the kernel
12:36 < _KDE> did you install ipl the first time from linux or windows
12:36 < fallouty> me ?
12:36 < _KDE> megabyte2
12:36 < megabyte2> from windoze
12:37 < megabyte2> brb
12:37 < megabyte2> need to go to the toilet
12:38 < _KDE> you have to uninstall ipl from your ipod in order to get a working image
12:38 < megabyte2> im back
12:38 < fallouty> megabyte2 can I help you test?
12:38 < megabyte2> just dl da fuckin linux.bin
12:38 < megabyte2> ive uploadded it
12:38 < megabyte2> http://rapidshare.de/files/4245883/linux.bin.html
12:38 < fallouty> I'll remove and make a fresh linux install, got the linux.bin, put online the podzilla too?
12:38 < megabyte2> you can test
12:38 < fallouty> I did
12:39 < megabyte2> but its gonna not be fault if your ipods dead
12:39 < megabyte2> so now test!
12:39 < fallouty> podzilla........
12:39 < fallouty> oh
12:39 < megabyte2> my podzilla's private
12:40 < fallouty> heh.. how so
12:40 < megabyte2> my build, my podzilla
12:40 < megabyte2> gna!
12:41 < fallouty> ok, I'll read and try to build podzilla , and then I'll test
12:41 < megabyte2> ok, ive got ye olde apple sw from my windoze
12:41 < _KDE> the backup the win installer made?
12:41 < megabyte2> yep
12:42 < _KDE> it won't work
12:42 < megabyte2> it'll be ok?
12:42 < _KDE> i trioed and it killed my headphones :(
12:42 < megabyte2> why not?
12:42 < _KDE> apple os won't boot just linux
12:42 < megabyte2> mayby it'll work for me
12:42 < _KDE> you have KDE in linux, megabyte2?
12:42 < megabyte2> il try
12:42 < megabyte2> yep
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12:44 < _KDE> does it wotrk?
12:44 < megabyte2> yep
12:45 < megabyte2> why d'ya ask?
12:45 < ShiintoRyuu> is _KDE a kde developer?
12:45 < megabyte2> no idea
12:45 < megabyte2> maybe
12:46 < _KDE> nope
12:46 < _KDE> :)
12:46 < megabyte2> lol
12:46 < ShiintoRyuu> aye o.=.o but a fan of it, I guess?
12:46 < _KDE> yeah
12:46 < ShiintoRyuu> <- is also a kde us0r
12:46 < megabyte2> hmm: [root@linux ipodloader]# ./make_fw -o my_sw.bin -i apple_sw.bin -l linux.bin loader.bin
12:46 < megabyte2> Generating firmware image compatible with 1g, 2g and 3g iPods...
12:47 < megabyte2> ive got 4g
12:47 < megabyte2> strange
12:47 < _KDE> you must specify -3
12:47 < megabyte2> oh
12:47 < megabyte2> ok
12:48 < _KDE> does it work now?
12:48 < megabyte2> yep
12:48 < megabyte2> ok writing
12:49 < megabyte2> it gives a strange icon
12:49 < _KDE> i know
12:50 < megabyte2> a littile computer with a hapy face insiode
12:50 < megabyte2> what's that?
12:50 < megabyte2> kde?
12:50 < _KDE> i guess the happy mac ;)
12:50 < megabyte2> and it keeps rebooting
12:50 < megabyte2> yep
12:50 < _KDE> yeah i said
12:50 < megabyte2> what do i do now?
12:50 < _KDE> the win installer wont work
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12:50 < megabyte2> i didn't use the win installer
12:50 < _KDE> *the backup from the installer
12:50 < megabyte2> oh ok
12:50 < megabyte2> hmmm
12:51 < megabyte2> diskmode again
12:51 < _KDE> wait
12:51 < _KDE> linux should work
12:51 < megabyte2> no, firware from win installer
12:51 < megabyte2> ok, diskmode again :(
12:52 < _KDE> uninstall ipl,, then take the backup
12:52 < megabyte2> how to uninstall ipd
12:52 < megabyte2> *ipl
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12:52 < megabyte2> never did it
12:52 < megabyte2> lol
12:52 < _KDE> go to windows
12:52 < _KDE> then
12:53 < megabyte2> use the ipl installer
12:53 < _KDE> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Windows_Uninstallation
12:53 < megabyte2> yeah?
12:53 < megabyte2> ok
12:53 < _KDE> ipl installer should work too
12:53 < _KDE> ipodlinux-installer.exe /r
12:54 < megabyte2> ok
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12:54 < megabyte2> can i run the installer from wine?
12:54 < _KDE> dont think so
12:54 < megabyte2> ive got a dual-boot
12:54 < megabyte2> ok
12:54 < megabyte2> ok
12:55 < megabyte2> brb
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12:56 < jamesDOOD> yo
12:56 < jamesDOOD> is anyone here
12:56 < v1p3r> lo
12:56  * _KDE is
12:56 < fallouty> can I use the Podzilla_builder on windows too ? ( cygwin )
12:56 < jamesDOOD> hey vlp3r
12:57 < _KDE> podzilla builder??
12:57 < fallouty> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla Automatic build script for Linux: Podzilla-builder.tgz
12:57 < v1p3r> ill have a look at it and see if it does any stuff cygwin cant do
12:57 < jamesDOOD> if it say fo linux it probably mean linux
12:58 < v1p3r> yeah but cygwin is sort of linux ish
12:58 < jamesDOOD> only a shell 
12:58 < v1p3r> wtf bad download
12:58  * v1p3r gets it again
12:58 < fallouty> there's just one thing
12:58 < jamesDOOD> try the repairer in winrar
12:58 < _KDE> if it's the script Jack_MD made then it should work in cygwin
12:59 < fallouty> iTunes Library
12:59 < fallouty> Windows/Cygwin only: There is currently no known way to compile libitunesdb under Cygwin. Use this pre-compiled iPod binary instead. http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/libitunesdb.a Put it in the ~/ipodlinux/libitunesdb/ipod/src/.libs directory.
12:59 < _KDE> just do that
12:59 < fallouty> I could remove the lines to compile itunes lib and just put the binary there
12:59 < jamesDOOD> or get some kinda crappy version of linux 
12:59 < _KDE> g2g
12:59 < _KDE> cya
12:59 < jamesDOOD> puppy or DS
12:59 < fallouty> cya
12:59 < v1p3r> cya
12:59 < jamesDOOD> by
12:59 < v1p3r> i love you <3
13:00 < jamesDOOD> umm
13:00 < v1p3r> :|
13:00 < jamesDOOD> oook
13:00 < v1p3r> :D
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13:00 < jamesDOOD> ok hes gone 
13:01 < jamesDOOD> anyopne know how to mount the firmware part of the ipod in linux
13:01 < jamesDOOD> ?
13:02 < jamesDOOD> hello
13:02 < jamesDOOD> darn 
13:02 < jamesDOOD> where is everyone
13:03 < fallouty> dead
13:03 < v1p3r> behind you and scarcely clothed <3
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13:04 < fallouty> megabyte2
13:04 < megabyte2> im back
13:04 < fallouty> any luck ?
13:04 < jamesDOOD> anyopne know how to mount the firmware part of the ipod in linux
13:04 < megabyte2> ok,yep
13:04 < jamesDOOD> so
13:04 < megabyte2> uninstalled linux
13:05 < megabyte2> now reinstalling it...
13:06 < megabyte2> lets hope it'll work
13:06 < fallouty> hope so
13:07 < jamesDOOD> does anyone know
13:07 < megabyte2> what?
13:07 < jamesDOOD>  how to mount the firmware part of the ipod in linux
13:07 < megabyte2> backupping...
13:07 < megabyte2> backuped.
13:07 < megabyte2> extracting...
13:07 < jamesDOOD> the oringinal apple OS
13:08 < megabyte2> extracted...
13:08 < megabyte2> mount /dev/sda
13:08 < megabyte2> i think its fat
13:09 < jamesDOOD> no its some knida binary thing
13:09 < megabyte2> writing
13:09 < megabyte2> wrote
13:09 < megabyte2> lets hope it works now...
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13:10 < fallouty> :)
13:10 < megabyte2> lol
13:10 < megabyte2> hmm¶
13:10 < fallouty> what
13:10 < megabyte2> now that's strange
13:10 < megabyte2> a blinking tux with da happy mac...
13:10 < megabyte2> lol
13:10 < megabyte2> XD
13:11 < megabyte2> it stopped blinking
13:11 < fallouty> maybe you screwed up the kernel build :)
13:11 < megabyte2> now its stuck on the tux
13:11 < megabyte2> hmmm
13:11 < megabyte2> at least my loader works
13:11 < megabyte2> XD
13:11 < jamesDOOD> yeh 
13:12 < jamesDOOD> but that has no point if linux dont work
13:12 < megabyte2> it hink its not the kernel
13:12 < fallouty> i'm still working on building podzilla :)
13:12 < megabyte2> coz normally it should start apple os
13:12 < fallouty> so I can help you test
13:12 < megabyte2> hmmmm...
13:12 < jamesDOOD> have you tryed restarting and trying again
13:13 < megabyte2> no
13:13 < megabyte2> its mnot that stupid
13:13 < jamesDOOD> k
13:13 < megabyte2> lol
13:13 < megabyte2> oh, its not blinking
13:13 < megabyte2> but its stuck on da tux
13:14 < jamesDOOD> sounds not good 
13:14 < jamesDOOD> go into diskmode if a regular restar dont work
13:14 < megabyte2> and when i want to boot da aaplle, it blinks again
13:14 < megabyte2> lol
13:14 < megabyte2> that strange
13:14 < megabyte2> ill try with the original loader
13:14 < jamesDOOD> 4G or what 
13:15 < megabyte2> 4g
13:15 < jamesDOOD> well lets hope the kernal isnt going crazy and killing your ipod 
13:15 < megabyte2> tsss
13:15 < megabyte2> not possible
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13:15 < jamesDOOD> can you still go into diskmode
13:15 < megabyte2> it goes diskomde
13:16 < megabyte2> withotu problems
13:16 < jamesDOOD> which instller did you use
13:16 < megabyte2> writing with original loader now
13:17 < megabyte2> linux installing
13:17 < jamesDOOD> oh 
13:18 < jamesDOOD> do you have windows?
13:18 < megabyte2> stuck on da apple
13:18 < megabyte2> yep
13:18 < jamesDOOD> ok id use the 4g instller for windows 
13:18 < megabyte2> at leas goes diskmode
13:18 < megabyte2> ye think?
13:18 < jamesDOOD> very easy to use 
13:18 < megabyte2> why ?
13:18 < megabyte2> linux too
13:18 < megabyte2> just two commands
13:19 < megabyte2> compile and write
13:19 < jamesDOOD> the windows installer usually works eaisly
13:19 < megabyte2> g2g
13:19 < megabyte2> il be back there tomorrow
13:19 < jamesDOOD> cya 
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13:19 < jamesDOOD> good luck
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13:36 < fallouty> anyone here compiled podzilla ?
13:38 < jmsbwtr> yup
13:38 < fallouty> under linux or cygwin ?
13:39 < jmsbwtr> linux
13:39 < fallouty> hmm
13:39 < fallouty> do you use regular podzilla ? or others
13:39 < jmsbwtr> regular but I've modified it
13:39 < fallouty> with what ? heh
13:40 < jmsbwtr> i put metronome in it and text input
13:40 < fallouty> by any chance, don't you have the regular build of the latest podzilla from cvs?
13:41 < jmsbwtr> you can download it yourself from the nightlys
13:41 < fallouty> nope
13:41 < fallouty> the fix is newer :)
13:41 < jmsbwtr> which fix?
13:41 < fallouty> I would like to try it before tomorrow, when nightly has it too
13:41 < fallouty> recording
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13:42 < JoyFM> hi
13:42 < v1p3r> hi
13:42 < jmsbwtr> it should be in the nightlys because that is compiled from developer cvs which is newer
13:42 < JoyFM> is there anybody who can help me to play ogg files?
13:42 < jmsbwtr> in what os/
13:42 < JoyFM> i have a 2nd generation ipod mini
13:43 < jmsbwtr> oh, you have to find them using the file browser
13:43 < fallouty> jmsbwtr: you saw the recording fix?
13:43 < JoyFM> i had used the file browser
13:43 < JoyFM> but it didn't work
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13:44 < jmsbwtr> did you get an error message?
13:44 < JoyFM> i used the normal version of podzilla
13:44 < jmsbwtr> fallouty: as far as I know the recording should be in the latest nightly
13:44 < jmsbwtr> fallouty: ask one of the devs to be sure though
13:44 < JoyFM> it tells the that the file typ isn't aided
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13:45 < JoyFM> i think i need podzilla-ogg
13:45 < JoyFM> but i don't know how to install it correctly
13:45 < JoyFM> and i don't know wether it will be work on the 2nd mini
13:46 < jmsbwtr> sorry, i forgot, ogg support isn't in the nightlys or CVS
13:47 < JoyFM> its the CVS version
13:47 < jmsbwtr> i think it's in MPD but I'm not sure though
13:47 < JoyFM> MPD?
13:47 < fallouty> jmsbwtr: the fix was put online just after the nightlys
13:47 < Daishi> if its in cvs its in the nightlys
13:47 < fallouty> Daishi: yea, it will be, tomorrow
13:47 < fallouty> :)
13:47 < JoyFM> i mean i'm using teh CVS version
13:47 < Daishi> ooo k
13:48 < JoyFM> ;)
13:48 < jmsbwtr> fallouty: but the things added into the anonymous cvs (the on you are using) is a couple of days older than the developer cvs (the one the nightlys aer built from)
13:48 < JoyFM> is there any reason to use the podzilla-ogg version?
13:49 < fallouty> I checked with the developer cvs
13:49 < fallouty> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/ipodlinux
13:49 < fallouty> hope that's it :)
13:50 < JoyFM> what does i need @ fallouty ?
13:50 < jmsbwtr> yea, thats it, and as you can see, recording was added on the 21st, so the 22nd build should have it in
13:51 < jmsbwtr> JoyFM: you need to wait or learn how to compile podzilla
13:51 < JoyFM> ok ;)
13:51 < jmsbwtr> then you can build MPD into it
13:52 < fallouty> OMG
13:52 < fallouty> recording works
13:52 < fallouty> with my headphones
13:52 < fallouty> on 4g :D
13:52 < fallouty> yahooo
13:52 < jmsbwtr> fallouty: waht did you use the nightly?
13:53 < fallouty> I had a build from megabyte2, from like half hour ago... which he made with the latest CVS
13:53 < fallouty> didn't try the nightly tho
13:54 < JoyFM> <fallouty> with my headphones <- hell yeah!
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13:57 < fallouty> but smth is odd
13:57 < fallouty> I still see my playlists listed twice
13:57 < nimmermehr> i see no playlist at all, after the last 4 kernel builds
13:57 < fallouty> they say they added MPD support
13:57 < fallouty> but how could I install it, a bit confused http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD
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13:58 < jmsbwtr> you need a podzilla build with MPDc built into it
13:58 < fallouty> got that I think
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13:59 < fallouty> 01:29 on Aug 20, 2005	ipodlinux	
13:59 < fallouty> Commit by courtc :: tools/podzilla/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
13:59 < fallouty> merged in mpdc under the MPDC define
14:00 < jmsbwtr> but if you read the wiki it tells you you need to build it with MPDC=1 not IPOD=1 which is the normal build
14:01 < fallouty> I understood that, but what about the setup
14:01 < fallouty> how am I supposed to do all those commands
14:01 < fallouty> with textinput heh?
14:03 < jmsbwtr> its in a config file, you can edit it from your pc
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14:04 < nimmermehr> is the blackscrreen when i open playlistsor ablum in the normal podzilla build gone when i install the mda player?
14:05 < fallouty> jmsbwtr you don't understand, I can't see linux dirs from windows, and there it says When you're done editing (or not editing) mpd.conf it should go in your iPod's /etc directory.
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14:06 < fallouty> and that's just one thing
14:06 < jmsbwtr> haven't you got cygwin?
14:06 < fallouty> I can use "start" file to do that, but dunno how to do the next steps there in a start file
14:06 < fallouty> I do
14:07 < jmsbwtr> mount your ipod in cygwin
14:08 < fallouty> i get some nice errors just by running "mount"
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14:14 < fallouty> my recording is kinda buggy hmm
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14:39 < JoyFM> is there anybody who has experiences with building podzilla by using cygwin ?
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14:43 < nimmermehr> JoyFM: what you wanne know?
14:44 < JoyFM> sorry now it works ^^
14:45 < fallouty> anyone tried the 4g recording ?
14:45 < fallouty> it's preety buggy for me
14:45 < fallouty> or at least the playback is
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14:51 < macpod> the playback has laways been buggy
14:57 < fallouty> heh
14:57 < fallouty> well it hangs a lot
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15:12 < v1p3r> recording on mini is impossible due to hardware limitations, correct?
15:13 < macpod> It is assumed yes
15:13 < Sereroku> it hink my ipod is fucked up :(
15:14 < macpod> but...
15:14 < macpod> http://www.eliteelectronics.co.uk/iPod_Mini_Voice_Recorder.html
15:14 < macpod> wait n/m
15:14 < fallouty> anyone know what this is :
15:14 < fallouty> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot creat
15:14 < fallouty> e executables.
15:15 < petemc> you would install libc6-dev, in debian anyway, to solve that
15:15 < fallouty> I have cygwin
15:16 < petemc> well, look for its gnu c library dev files package
15:16 < petemc> or equivalent
15:16 < fallouty> :|
15:17 < fallouty> says nothing on the guide on a problem like this, http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla
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15:20 < Sereroku> http://www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/93936/93936_4.gif <- my iPod shows this here :o
15:21 < Jack_MD> Sereroku: go into diskmode and use the apple recovery/whatever tool
15:21 < Sereroku> eh doesnt work?!
15:22 < Sereroku> when i connect my iPod to my PC it shows an empty Battery symbol
15:22 < Sereroku> not this: http://www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/93936/93936_2.gif
15:23 < Sereroku> wanna see a pic?
15:24 < Sereroku> Force into Diskmode is Resetting and then Hold Play/Pause right?
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15:28 < Chronus> are there any non-ipod linux for mp3 player projects?
15:29 < Sereroku> rockbox -> but its not linux and its not ipod
15:29 < Jack_MD> Sereroku: goto german channel
15:29 < v1p3r> LiPod - its linux, its for the iPod, but it doesnt exist
15:30 < Sereroku> why?
15:30 < Chronus> none more? I noticed the PP5020 chip is used by my m:robe 100 too
15:31 < v1p3r> just google 'yourplayername linux'
15:31 < v1p3r> if it exists youll find it pretty quickly
15:32 < Chronus> I did that..found null..came here via links and figured there might be unknown projects for it
15:32 < Sereroku> DAMN IPOD
15:33 < Chronus> yeah..well I figured since they are both PortalPlayer-based they might be compatible with some tweaking
15:34 < Sereroku> oh damn on my ipod works nothing, no diagnostic mode, no diskmode
15:34 < Sereroku> really suxx
15:35 < Chronus> get an mrobe :P (knows he'll be flamed since he's on an ipod channel he-he)
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15:37 < Jack_MD> Sereroku: which ipod gen do you have?
15:37 < Sereroku> 4
15:38 < Jack_MD> and you know how to get into diskmode?
15:38 < Sereroku> yes
15:38 < Sereroku> Reset and then Play/pause + Select
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15:39 < Jack_MD> thought it was rewind and select...
15:39 < Sereroku> Disk Mode: Hold down the select and play buttons after a reboot. 1
15:40 < Jack_MD> oh you're right
15:40 < Sereroku> i know
15:40 < Sereroku> nothing works, no diagnostic mode, no disk mode, nothin
15:40 < Sereroku> i dont want to send it to apple :o
15:40 < Sereroku> they'll delete my data?!
15:40 < _KDE> sereroku: I thought you backuped them yesterday
15:41 < Sereroku> no
15:41 < Sereroku> -.-
15:41 < admiralfrijole> Sereroku: won't touch the data, just send you a replacement iPod
15:41 < _KDE> :P
15:41 < _KDE> lol
15:41 < Sereroku> i need my music
15:41 < Sereroku> i got EVERYTHING on my iPod :o
15:41 < Sereroku> nothing on my PC
15:41 < admiralfrijole> good reason not to do that :-p
15:42 < admiralfrijole> you may be able to call applecare and get it noted that its kaput, then send it off for recovery
15:42 < admiralfrijole> someone could probably just pull the drive and grab the data
15:42 < Sereroku> hm thats my idea :o
15:42 < Sereroku> but dunno how :P
15:43 < admiralfrijole> are you near an apple store?
15:43 < Sereroku> i am in germany :P
15:43 < admiralfrijole> hm
15:43 < Sereroku> the nearest apple store is in London *g*
15:43 < admiralfrijole> yeah
15:43 < admiralfrijole> call applecare
15:43 < Sereroku> and then?
15:43 < admiralfrijole> see what they say
15:44 < admiralfrijole> they may be able to note in there that its dead and needs replacement and that you're going to send it to someone else to get the data
15:44 < admiralfrijole> that way when they get it and see its been opened they won't call foul
15:44 < Sereroku> O.o
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15:46 < _KDE> ...
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15:48 < _KDE> lmao
15:49 < fallouty> man so many bugs I have with recordings
15:49 -!- i`love`you`_KDE is now known as really
15:49 < fallouty> and its just a fresh install and nightlys
15:49 < fallouty> record and playback bugs
15:49 < fallouty> generaly hangs
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15:52 < _KDE> /msg iplbot _KDE
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15:56 < Coolie4> afternoon everyone
15:58 < Jack_MD> hi
15:59 < Coolie4> has any1 tried the 4g recording yet?
16:00 < Coolie4> about2 install the kernel now
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16:06 < fallouty> Coolie4 yea
16:06 < fallouty> let me know on your progress as mine sucked, seems buggy to me
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16:11 < Coolie5> linkys routers suck :/
16:11 < fallouty> (07:08:54pm) (fallouty) Coolie4 yea
16:11 < fallouty> (07:09:08pm) (fallouty) let me know on your progress as mine sucked, seems buggy to me
16:11 < davidc__[2]> Coolie5: Shameless Plug - Buy the one my company makes! :P
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16:12 < Coolie5> hey wtf....
16:12 -!- davidc__[2] is now known as davidc__
16:12 < davidc__> Coolie5: hmm?
16:12 < Coolie5> whos using my name?
16:12 < Coolie5> im not cloned
16:13 < Coolie5> uhhhh....
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16:13 < davidc__> same IP
16:13 < fallouty> it will timeout
16:13 < davidc__> same user
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16:13 < fallouty> you got hacked :P
16:13 < Coolie5> this is pissin me off...
16:13 < davidc__> Coolie5 - its the same ip, the same user
16:13 < davidc__> its just a dead connection
16:13 < Coolie5> yea wtf
16:13 < davidc__> just wait, it'll drop.
16:13 < Coolie5> then ill swtich back and password it ^.^;
16:14 < fallouty> Coolie try 4g recording
16:14 < Coolie5> i only use irc for warez anyway
16:14 < Coolie5> ok 1 sec i got2 compile kernel
16:14 < davidc__> No discussion of warez in this channel please. [Pre-emptive strike]
16:15 < fallouty> Coolie4 just use the nightlys
16:15 < Coolie5> lol ok
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16:15 < Coolie5> damn now cygwin is buggin out
16:15 < fallouty> yea it is
16:15 < fallouty> use nightly
16:15 < Coolie5> ok
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16:16 < Coolie5> already lost all my stuff tho >< oh well
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16:17 < Coolie5> brb mirc is installed on my pod
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16:20 < _KDE> mIRC on ipod? ^^
16:20 < fallouty> funny yea
16:20 < davidc__> rrright.
16:20 < fallouty> soon we might see first user logging in here with BitchX :)
16:21 < fallouty> from ipod !
16:21 < fallouty> :P
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16:22 < ShiintoRyuu> fallouty: how does the pod connect to irc? firewire?
16:22 < fallouty> you can establish a network connection with your pc
16:22 < davidc__> hey MrMini 
16:22 < fallouty> and from there some internet sharing :)
16:22 < fallouty> would be a way , wild way
16:24 < fallouty> why oh why is recording buggy :( argh
16:25 < MrMini> hi
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16:26 < ShiintoRyuu> <fallouty> you can establish a network connection with your pc <- also in linux/usb?
16:26 < MrMini> Dude, Im such an idiot, I think I was looking in the wrong folder than the one I was in the terminal. Cus i was doing it half by using th gui and half by using the terminal
16:26 < MrMini> (when I was building podzilla)
16:26 < ShiintoRyuu> my problem is ^^ I dont know how.. never used ethernet over usb connections
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16:39 < _KDE> ethernet only works over firewire afaik
16:40 < davidc__> well, it doesn't work on anything newer than 3g's as well
16:41 < davidc__> theoretically the 4g+ driver for firewire + USB should be fairly easy to write
16:41 < davidc__> not much R-E work required
16:42 < davidc__> but nobody has gotten off their respective asses rto do it.
16:42  * davidc__ prods aegray
16:42 < Cippo> hehe :)
16:42 < Cippo> what's the diffrence between the 1-3g and the 4g+ on the usb/ieee1394 side?
16:44 < MrMini> david have you made that tv out thing yet?
16:45 < davidc__> Cippo: on the 4g+ side, it uses an integrated EHCI based USB controller,  + an OHCI based firewire controller
16:45 < davidc__> rather than external chips
16:45 < davidc__> EHCI + OHCI are pretty much standards
16:46 < Cippo> akey
16:46 < davidc__> we just have to rip out  the PCI bits of the linux EHCI + OHCI drivers
16:46 < davidc__> well, its more complex then that
16:46 < Cippo> hehe :)
16:47 < ShiintoRyuu> would be cool to work on ipod with telnet / ssh o.=.o
16:47 < Cippo> heheh, why ssh? dont think anyone is going to hack it :D
16:49 < _KDE> you never know ;)
16:50 < Cippo> hehehehe :)
16:50 < Cippo> maybe the new big trend for script kiddies? ;)
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16:50 < _KDE> lol
16:51 < davidc__> MrMini: working on it...
16:51 < davidc__> MrMini: I can't seem to figure out how to get the clock source for the DTV controller runninhg
16:51 < davidc__> MrMini: any insight?
16:52 < MrMini> davidc__: Ok cool, can I have a go of it please when your done
16:52 < davidc__> MrMini: it might be a while...
16:52 < davidc__> MrMini: the problem is that I don't know how the ipod is wired internally
16:52 < MrMini> davidC__: that DTV controller is a bitch to work with...
16:52 < davidc__> I could figure it out, but it would require ripping apart an ipod.
16:52 < MrMini> davidc___: not that I would know...
16:52 < davidc__> MrMini: haha.. and you would know how? :P
16:53 < MrMini> davidc__: I wouldent...
16:53 < MrMini> davidc__: I was planing on donating some money to ipl next I get cash but I could donate it more specificly to you.
16:54 < davidc__> no, don't
16:54 < davidc__> I don't want to have to worry about that
16:54 < davidc__> if it goes into the project coffers, it'll get allocated somewhere.
16:54 < davidc__> however, I think we're fairly good for money atm
16:55 < MrMini> davidc__: Well, its just that you could sell this stuff for a lot of money and be rich...
16:55 < davidc__> MrMini: huh?
16:55 < davidc__> haha.. if I was interested in being rich I wouldn'ta just bought my own photo :P
16:56 < MrMini> davidc__: talking about all you devs, making a nice little disk with installers on it and a little manual to go with it and sell it for £40 or something
16:56 < davidc__> eh.. ya seem we work on this stuff because we want to, not because we want to be rich... :P
16:57 < MrMini> how about putting advertisments on the site?
16:57 < MrMini> that would bring it some cash
16:57 < MrMini> Whats better than working on something you want to and making money of it at the same time?
17:00 < davidc__> not having to stare at ads?
17:00 < MrMini> what?
17:00 < davidc__> we would _never_ put ads on the site, except for the small thing for our web hosting sponsor
17:03 < MrMini> ok..
17:03 < MrMini> have I offended you by suggesting ways you could make money?
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17:11 < Capso> Chirp.
17:12 < davidc__> MrMini: not particularly...
17:12 < davidc__> MrMini: I'm just sayin.. we do this project because we like doing it...
17:13 < MrMini> Ok, but if you ever decide to go comercial I wont mind paying
17:13 < davidc__> and we don't want to commercialise it.
17:13 < davidc__> the whole point of this project is to create a free-as-in-speech OS for the ipod.
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17:14 < MrMini> Yeah but soon you'll become so powerfull and evil that you will do anything to gain money
17:14 < Capso> Apple has done enough Commercialising.
17:15 < Capso> The basis of OpenSource is recognition, mainly. Don't corrupt that.
17:15 < Daishi> MrMini: different people hold copyrights to different parts of ipl
17:15 < fallouty> anyone else having problems with recording ?
17:15 < fallouty> bugs
17:15 < Daishi> it would be damn near impossible to get everyone to agree and make it commercial and that would probably slow development aswell
17:16 < fallouty> check my funny results http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24936#24936
17:16 < Daishi> i hear if you say "windows xp" into the voice recorder your ipod explodes
17:16 < Cippo> hahaha :D
17:16 < fallouty> lol
17:17 < MrMini> I was just saying I think the devs are entitled to get some reward for making all the fetures in ipl and ipl its self
17:17 < Daishi> it sucked when it misunderstood "and the wind blows exponentially"
17:17 < MrMini> especially the dude that made pong.
17:18 < Daishi> MrMini: you can donate
17:18 < Daishi> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Donations
17:18 < davidc__> eh, btw, we just use the donations to buy new hardware :P
17:18 < davidc__> otherwise the ipod habit gets expensive.
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17:22 < MrMini> I will donate, when I get money. Which will be next month
17:23 < Capso> ...
17:24 < Daishi> the latest nightly has the 4g mic support in it?
17:24 < macpod> yes
17:24 < fallouty> yes
17:25 < Daishi> woo!
17:25 < Capso> Mini 2g Recording coming any time soon?
17:25 < _KDE> COOL
17:25  * _KDE downloading kernel nightly :D
17:25 < Capso> Or any status on it?
17:25 < fallouty> can someone other than me test 4g recording on grays pls
17:25 < fallouty> ?
17:25 < _KDE> will recording work when i compile podzilla with mpd?
17:26 < macpod> no, you need the server
17:26 < davidc__> the current thought is that minis actually don't have the proper hardware to record.
17:26 < macpod> and then you need to set that up
17:26 < fallouty> _KDE if you manage to do that pls send it to me too
17:26 < _KDE> i know
17:26 < Daishi> #./ipl_linux_installer.sh --upgrade <---i seriously love that thing
17:26 < Daishi> its the only good part about the installer
17:26 < davidc__> Daishi: hmm?
17:26 < macpod> mpd supports waves, why is it not being used for playback of recorded audio?
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17:26 < _KDE> i mean mpd disables normal audio playback, but it doesn't disable recording?
17:26 < Daishi> davidc_: downloads and installs latest kernel and podzilla
17:27 < Daishi> from your nightlys
17:27 < courtc> <MrMini> especially the dude that made pong.
17:27 < courtc> me!
17:27 < davidc__> ah, I've got a script like that
17:27 < davidc__> well, two
17:27 < MrMini> oh man, that game is coool
17:27 < davidc__> one that does latest nightlys
17:27 < MrMini> I play pong and tetris all the time
17:27 < davidc__> one that uses my own trees
17:28 < macpod> courtc: does the iPod mpd support wav files?
17:28 < Daishi> i really need to make it check to make sure youre root
17:28 < MrMini> does the 1g mini support recording using the line in?
17:28 < Daishi> i keep forgetting
17:29 < courtc> macpod, no, we tried using wavpack but it's surprisingly slow
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17:29 < fallouty> remember recording is in .wav files
17:29 < courtc> MrMini, no, we don't think it has the harware.
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17:30 < Daishi> crap
17:30 < MrMini> awww
17:30 < fallouty> man I'm getting such weird results with recording
17:30 < fallouty> macpod
17:30 < macpod> Think it would be hard to add support via using the current recording code? I think the main problems are caused by it being tied into the podzilla
17:30 < fallouty> to answer your question I'm playing it with ipod
17:30 < Daishi> exclamation and folder icon wtf
17:30 < MrMini> why wouldent it, do u think apple were sinister and took it out?
17:30 < Daishi> this worked 100 times before!
17:30 < macpod> fallouty try playing back with your computer
17:30 < fallouty> and as I tested before even if I play with computer I hear the SAME THING
17:31 < macpod> What app then?
17:31 < fallouty> so if I had the 20 sec played in 40s, I'd get same on windows ( winamp )
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17:31 < macpod> hmm, let me send you a recording
17:31 < fallouty> too scared to test anymore getting weird results, and sometimes it works, and then it just hangs for instance
17:32 < fallouty> hanging after I click the Mic Record and I see press action that is
17:32 < macpod> Try playing that in winamp
17:32 < davidc__> MrMini: recording requires an ADC, more passives, and it would make it generally more expensive
17:32 < macpod> that file sounds fine for me on the desktop but trips up the iPod more often than now
17:32 < fallouty> it sounds ok for me too
17:32 < MrMini> do you think it would take up more battery power aswell?
17:33 < fallouty> there's a few clicks at the start
17:33 < fallouty> like you banged the headphones a bit
17:33 < fallouty> :)
17:33 < macpod> I'm snapping my fingers
17:33 < fallouty> yea
17:33 < fallouty> or that
17:33 < macpod> It's just a condenser mic attached the the headphone
17:33 < fallouty> I thought it's a playback problem, but I sometimes hang at mic record after a succesful playback
17:34 < fallouty> my last recording eventho was 20s, winamp says it's 3:12 min
17:34 < macpod> The code for recording is pretty bad, that is why the numbers hang.. happens on 3G's too
17:34 < fallouty> and the sound is extended to fit that much ... so crap
17:34 < macpod> must be those gotos :P
17:35 < macpod> Have you ever had a successful recording?
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17:35 < fallouty> yea
17:35 < macpod> Does it seem to get bad after a certain time period?
17:35 < fallouty> no
17:35 < fallouty> it's either good or bad all the way
17:35 < fallouty> unless it hanged at last sec
17:36 < fallouty> happend once I think
17:36 < courtc> the code for recording is pretty clean in my opinion. and the gotos are just for errors, which is a common place to use them.
17:36 < fallouty> funny thing is sometimes recordings start play at 3 sec ( when I get 40 secs total file instead of 20 )
17:36 < fallouty> wish I had a sort of log file
17:36 < fallouty> for all this
17:37 < fallouty> trying to record something as short as 1 sec made a damaged .wav file
17:37 < _KDE> so the actual nightlys support recording?
17:37 < macpod> The recording code is tied into nano-x stuff, If it were based on a regular timer I bet the quality would improve
17:38 < macpod> At least for 3G
17:38 < fallouty> so any developer her ask me what should I test now :)
17:38  * fallouty dizzy
17:39 < Nikosapi_> testing is fun! it makes you like you've acomplished something..
17:39 < Nikosapi_> lol
17:39 < fallouty> yea nothing
17:39 < Nikosapi_> exactly
17:41 < fallouty> anyone else having problems with time+date? it's not being saved, altho the timezone is saved
17:42 < MrMini> wow the devblog has been updated
17:42 < fallouty> hehe
17:43 < courtc> 'hwclock --hctosys'  <-- add that to your ipod's /etc/rc
17:44 < fallouty> how could I do that easily ? using windows
17:44 < MrMini> that little iMod_iPod dude is flashing his email around all over the forums. It would be funny if someone signed him up to a christian newsletter...
17:44 < Daishi> wtf ipod_os_partition_backup has grown to be bigger than sda1
17:45 < _KDE> thats normal daishi
17:45 < _KDE> hda1 gets resized
17:45 < MrMini> I got ipod_os_partition_backups all over the place. Are they nessecerry to keep?
17:45 < Daishi> dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/sda1
17:45 < Daishi> dd: writing to `/dev/sda1': No space left on device
17:45 < Daishi> 32067+0 records in
17:45 < Daishi> 32066+0 records out
17:45 < Daishi> and i get the exclamation file error
17:45 < Daishi> MrMini: yes
17:45 < fallouty> thats funny recorded 20 secs at 96khz, and it hanged when I started playback, timer didn't even show
17:46 < MrMini> can't you just use the apple restore thingy if something goes wrong?
17:46 < _KDE> daishi: copy the partition map backup before
17:46 < Daishi> ?
17:46 < fallouty> (courtc) 'hwclock --hctosys' <-- add that to your ipod's /etc/rc -> in windows how to access that dir? I can't seem to figure a way to mount in cygwin either
17:47 < _KDE> you took 2 backups when you installed ipl
17:47 < Daishi> MrMini: yea but you loose all your data
17:47 < Daishi> ooo
17:47 < _KDE> one from the fw partition and one from the partition map
17:47 < Daishi> copy that one and then the next
17:47 < MrMini> soo...? its on itunes
17:47 < Daishi> its an easier way to remove ipl if you ever want to MrMini 
17:47 < fallouty> note: the file I recorded in 96khz and hanged at playblack, plays in winamp 20secs, no sound tho.
17:48 < MrMini> ok..
17:48 < Daishi> dd if=ipod_boot_sector_backup of=/dev/sda first?
17:48 < _KDE> yeah
17:48 < Daishi> k
17:49 < davidc__> Daishi: er.
17:49 < davidc__> SDA?
17:49 < davidc__> no.
17:49 < davidc__> not sda.
17:49 < Daishi> not sda?
17:49 < Daishi> for the boot sector yea
17:49 < Daishi> sda1 for the os
17:50 < _KDE> afaik the ipod has no boot sector/MBR.
17:50 < fallouty> oh well I guess nobody is trying to debug recording... maybe I got all the problems and works fine for the rest on 4gray
17:52 < Daishi> grr
17:52 < aegray> haha i got prodded
17:52 < Daishi> forget this right now just writing backup
17:52 < Daishi> aegray: ?
17:52 < aegray> by davidc
17:53 < Daishi> tmi
17:53 < aegray> davidc__ i definitely will need your help on that
17:53 < davidc__> aegray: the usb stuff?
17:53 < aegray> i got a little but i get confused way to easy
17:53 < aegray> yea
17:53 < davidc__> yeah.. I'm busy hacking on DTV stuff at the moment
17:53 < aegray> just the periodic/asychronous stuff is confusing the hell out of me
17:53 < aegray> k
17:53 < aegray> whenever
17:53 < aegray> i won't be around much for a week (pre school parties) but after that
17:54 < courtc> hey aegray 
17:54 < aegray> hi
17:54 < aegray> how you doing?
17:54 < courtc> fine
17:54 < courtc> and you?
17:54 < aegray> eh
17:54 < Daishi> grrrrrrrr
17:55 < Daishi> why does sda1 grow every time a backup is made and then a new kernel is added
17:55 < Daishi> is there a way to remove the excess?
17:56 < davidc__> aegray: heh.. I'll work on DTV stuff till then.
17:56 < davidc__> Daishi: huh?
17:56 < davidc__> Daishi: it shouldnt...
17:56 < Daishi> it does
17:56 < aegray> davidc__: the video out stuff for ipod?  Or hacking like a tive/
17:56 < aegray> tivo*
17:56 < davidc__> HFS or FAT formatted ipod?
17:56 < Daishi> according to dd its now 1 record too big
17:56 < Daishi> FAT
17:57 < davidc__> aegray: video out stuff.
17:57 < aegray> cool
17:57 < davidc__> Daishi: huh.
17:57 < Daishi> #ls -la my_sw.bin
17:57 < Daishi> -rw-r--r--    1 daishi   adm      16646788 Aug 22 13:51 my_sw.bin
17:57 < Daishi> its now just slightly too big to fit on the first partition
17:57 < davidc__> aegray: not makin much progress tho :/
17:58 < davidc__> er.. first partition should be 32MB.
17:58 < aegray> even with all berns re stuff?
17:58 < davidc__> aegray: its a bit of a help
17:58 < Daishi> doesnt work out that way on 40gb ipods
17:58 < davidc__> I've been RE'ing more as well
17:58 < Daishi> hrm
17:58 < Daishi> wait
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17:58 < Daishi> it is
17:58 < davidc__> aegray: but I can't get the clock for the DAC running
17:58 < Daishi> no wait
17:58 < aegray> oh bleh
17:58 < Daishi> it isnt
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17:59 < Daishi> i never had this problem before
17:59 < aegray> davidc_: even with all the pinmuxing info?
18:00 < MrMini> hey guess what... i can now install the kernel ;) im just amazing..
18:00 < aegray> davidc_: nm i'm probably being stupid
18:00 < davidc__> aegray: yea.
18:00 < davidc__> aegray: I've got the pinmuxing stuff
18:00 < aegray> k
18:00 < davidc__> tried it the way it looks in the RE stuff
18:00 < aegray> ah ok
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18:00 < davidc__> move -> .dev
18:00 < aegray> k
18:01 < MrMini> :O matrix is now green
18:02 < MrMini> that matrix thing is soo cool
18:02 < MrMini> Im gonna plug my ipod into my schools computer and then turn the matrix screensaver on and pretend im doing some uber 1337 hacking
18:03 < Daishi> this sucks
18:03 < davidc__> Daishi: ?
18:03 < davidc__> ah.
18:03 < Daishi> i dont get whats going on
18:03 < MrMini> does gameboy work with photo?
18:04 < aegray> if you do make COP=1
18:04 < Daishi> no
18:04 < aegray> yes it does
18:04 < aegray> i commited that last week
18:04 < MrMini> ooo
18:04 < Daishi> oo
18:04 < MrMini> where do i download it.
18:04 < aegray> from sourceforge cvs
18:04 < aegray> then you have to make it
18:04 < aegray> or the forum thread
18:05 < MrMini> forum thread..
18:05 < aegray> ipodlinux.org/forums/
18:05 < MrMini> cvs.. bah good god man, do you think im some sorta of.. of smart person
18:05 < aegray> the forum thread then - there are links to builds
18:06 < Daishi> if you can compile something you can use cvs
18:06 < davidc__> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co 
18:06 < davidc__> from memory, too!
18:07 < davidc__> [warning, might not be right]
18:07 < Daishi> k i need to go to the store now and pick up laundry
18:07 < MrMini> "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded" nooooo!!
18:07 < aegray> haha
18:07 < MrMini> :(
18:07 < aegray> just compile it - its not that hard
18:07 < Daishi> id toy with my ipod more but im going away and want musak workin
18:07 < MrMini> ok..
18:07 < aegray> much easier than podzilla
18:08 < davidc__> yea, podzilla is a fuckin beast to build
18:08  * davidc__ notes he should make an autobuild script someday for it
18:08 < davidc__> well, auto fetch-configure-build
18:08 < MrMini> auto build you say
18:09 < MrMini> indeed.
18:11 < MrMini> where abouts in the cvs is it?
18:11 < aegray> its separate
18:11 < aegray> hold on
18:11 < MrMini> jesus christ podzilla drains batterys
18:11 < MrMini> 387... 384...
18:11 < MrMini> 283
18:12 < MrMini> 382
18:12 < Nikosapi_> not as much as it used to
18:12 < aegray> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/iboy co iboy
18:12 < aegray> instead of ipodlinux
18:12 < MrMini> 387..
18:12 < aegray> it jumps around
18:12 < aegray> just so you realize
18:12 < davidc__> oh, its a separate project?
18:12 < aegray> yea
18:12 < aegray> can we merge that?
18:12 < MrMini> canna click the link
18:13 < aegray> its not a link MrMini
18:13 < aegray> its the command you use
18:13 < aegray> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/iboy/iboy/
18:13 < davidc__> yea, we'll merge it in sometime
18:13 < MrMini> my bad... lol
18:14 < jedix> does it scale the processor as required?
18:14 < aegray> no
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18:15 < Nikosapi_> courtc - you were right about the id3 tags, my Billy Talent ones were really messed up, also a few others that were done with itunes
18:15 < jedix> Nikosapi_: what was the issue?
18:15 < MrMini> soo...
18:15 < MrMini> how do you build it?
18:16 < aegray> make
18:16 < aegray> make COP=1
18:16 < Nikosapi_> wrong format, and i added comments and stuff, so I got rid of all that and just left album, artist and track name
18:17 < Nikosapi_> Now to convert some weezer.
18:17 < jedix> the new one?
18:17 < jedix> I need to buy that cd
18:17 < Nikosapi_> all of them
18:17  * jedix has all of them
18:17 < Nikosapi_> me too!, my favorite is Maladroit
18:18 < jedix> I should update my kernel to get ogg support working at full speed.
18:18 < MrMini> ok i made it
18:18 < MrMini> wheres the file...?
18:19 < MrMini> whats it called.
18:19 < aegray> fbgnuboy
18:19 < aegray> if it worked
18:19 < aegray> it flickers every once in a while but its not ba
18:19 < aegray> d
18:20 < aegray> faster afaik
18:20 < davidc__> what didya move?
18:20 < davidc__> just drawing?
18:20 < aegray> yea for know - anything that touches the lcd moved to cop - so that scaling and waiting on the lcd don't slow down the game
18:21 < aegray> for now*
18:21 < MrMini> yeah it worked
18:21 < aegray> i'm gonna do that with doom also
18:21 < MrMini> jesus that was easy
18:21 < aegray> haha
18:21 < davidc__> aegray: yeah, I see lots of places doom could be optimized
18:21 < aegray> haha you think?
18:21 < MrMini> you know for building podzilla, do you think some one could create a automator workflow?
18:21 < aegray> i thought 2fps was pretty good
18:21 < aegray> thats what davidc was talking about before already
18:22 < MrMini> i know.
18:22 < Nikosapi_> i might be able to do something like that
18:22 < MrMini> holey shit, the speakers on my G5 just konged out
18:22 < MrMini> noo!
18:23 < MrMini> oh wait there back
18:23 < MrMini> faulty wires or something...
18:23 < v1p3r> doesnt the nightly cronjob allready have a builder for podzilla? :/
18:23 < davidc__> v1p3r: yeah, the nightlys are built
18:23 < davidc__> but for personal dev
18:24 < davidc__> it takes like 30 mins to fetch + config everything
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18:24 < v1p3r> oh ic
18:24 < davidc__> the actual script to build the nightys does some of that
18:24 < davidc__> like fetches latest libjpeg +  a bunch of other things
18:24 < Nikosapi_> Maybe a bash script of something like that could take care of that
18:24 < davidc__> automatically sets up the paths for a bunch of stuff
18:24 < davidc__> yeah, bash + wget + cvs + svn could do 90%
18:24 < davidc__> well, all
18:24 < Nikosapi_> yep
18:25 < davidc__> feel free to write one ;)
18:26 < MrMini> its cool how ipl can detect usb
18:26 < Nikosapi_> I'll see what i can do, the only script i made was a madlibs game, for bash
18:26 < Nikosapi_> and some other small stuff
18:26 < Nikosapi_> im trying to learn C right now
18:27 < MrMini> um how do you get the gb emulator, i tried it and it got in a big mood with me, Said that there was no rom specified
18:27 < v1p3r> which build are you using?
18:27 < MrMini> latest
18:28 < v1p3r> the rom needs to be in /mnt/david then
18:28 < v1p3r> and called MARIO.GB
18:28 < Nikosapi_> courtc - does mpd work better with id3v1 or id3v2?
18:28 < v1p3r> or you could edit the source to make it lok somewhere else like i do in my builds
18:28 < courtc> OMG.. I was right? that _never_ happens.
18:28 < Nikosapi_> ?
18:28 < courtc> </hard edged sarcasm>
18:29 < v1p3r> ?
18:29 < courtc> "courtc - you were right about the id3 tags"
18:29 < Nikosapi_> once again ` ? `
18:29 < Nikosapi_> ohhhh
18:30 < courtc> bash: ?: command not found
18:30 < v1p3r> '?' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
18:31 < Nikosapi_> but $? give the exit status of the last command
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18:31 < v1p3r> and $$$ make v1p3r happy
18:32 < v1p3r> $ cd v1p3r/src/
18:32 < v1p3r> $ make HAPPY=1
18:32 < v1p3r> YOUR TOO POOR
18:32 < v1p3r> FAIL
18:32 < Nikosapi_> so courtc in your opinion what works better with mpd id3v1 or v2
18:32 < Nikosapi_> lol
18:33 < courtc> yes
18:33  * Nikosapi_ pokes courtc in the eye with a stick
18:33  * courtc has stick proof eyes
18:34 < aegray> haha
18:34  * Nikosapi_ goes home and eats a burger
18:35  * Nikosapi_ then sneaks behind courtc and trips him
18:35 < courtc> I'm sitting down.
18:36 < Nikosapi_> bite me
18:36 < courtc> CHOMP
18:36 < Nikosapi_> owch! not my good arm
18:38 < v1p3r> $ cd /bin/
18:39 < v1p3r> $ cp v1p3r v1p3r2
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18:39 < v1p3r2> hullo
18:39 < aegray> boo bad joke
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18:39 < v1p3r> rm v1p3r2
18:39 < Nikosapi_> heh, nice
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18:40 < ShiintoRyuu> rm -rf v1p3r2
18:40 < aegray> rm -rf v1*
18:40 < ShiintoRyuu> cat /dev/null > v1p3r2
18:40 < nimmermehr> hello
18:40 < aegray> elloh
18:40 < nimmermehr> is the a energysaver algorythmen in podzilla??
18:40 < aegray> (and it begins)
18:40 < Nikosapi_> hio
18:40 < aegray> not yet
18:41 < nimmermehr> does this burns out the hd?
18:41 < aegray> no
18:41 < aegray> harddrives are made to be used
18:41 < nimmermehr> serious?
18:41 < davidc__> nimmermehr: how should we know?
18:41 < aegray> why would the harddrive burn?
18:41 < davidc__> besides, just use hdparm -s to spindown the hd.,
18:41 < davidc__> you can just set a 5 sec spindown
18:41 < davidc__> works great.
18:42 < aegray> anyone had problems with the headphone detect failing?
18:42 < nimmermehr> there is no proof. maybee when you run 20 samll movies the hardrive is warmed up to much so some kabels oder something else rake down
18:42 < aegray> it keeps pausing all the time
18:42 < nimmermehr> davdc_: thx
18:42 < aegray> nimmermehr: try it out
18:43 < aegray> anyone with this problem?
18:43  * aegray talks to himself
18:43 < aegray> hi aegray
18:43 < davidc__> nimmermehr: "kabels oder something else rake down" what??!?!?
18:43 < aegray> haha i was wondering too
18:44 < davidc__> that must be the most mangled 6 words I've ever seen
18:44 < jedix> kabels reorderes something lower
18:44 < Nikosapi_> cp -r /home/nikosapi/music/weezer /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/other_music
18:44 < Nikosapi_> yay!
18:44 < davidc__> nimmermehr: in any case, we have no idea what will happen
18:44 < davidc__> You'
18:44 < davidc__> re on youre own
18:44 < courtc> int status; pid_t pid; switch ((pid = vfork())) { case -1: perror("vfork"); break; case 0: execl("/bin/sh", "sh", "-c", "courtc"); _exit(1); break; default: waidpid(pid, &status, 0); break; }
18:44 < v1p3r> ow
18:44 < v1p3r> my brain
18:44 < v1p3r> say your sorry
18:44 < v1p3r> :(
18:44 < davidc__> as our page says, we take absolutely no responsibility for you breaking your ipod.
18:44 < nimmermehr> never know... you can use the ipod as a normal harddirve but there it never warmes up so hot like when iam running podzilla
18:45 < Nikosapi_> that's a lot to put on one line
18:45 < Nikosapi_> poor bash
18:45 < davidc__> nimmermehr: thats because it spins down when not in use
18:45 < davidc__> Nikosapi_ that would be C code :P
18:45 < Nikosapi_> wait thats not bash
18:45 < MrMini> i tried to create a workflow for building podzilla and the automator crashed..
18:45 < davidc__> nimmermehr: use the hdparm thing
18:45 < davidc__> MrMini: hmmm?
18:45 < davidc__> which automator?
18:46 < MrMini> the mac one
18:46 < MrMini> one that comes with tiger
18:46 < davidc__> use bash.
18:46 < MrMini> bash?
18:47 < davidc__> its a shell scripting language;
18:47 < MrMini> Im using it..
18:47 < davidc__> ummmm
18:47 < davidc__> with tiger automator?
18:47 < Nikosapi_> brb
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18:47 < davidc__> alrighty then
18:47 < davidc__> anyways, off to lunc.
18:48 < fallouty> wish there was an updated floydzilla out there now :|
18:48 < fallouty> with recording + mpd
18:48  * fallouty wishes really hard :)
18:48 < nimmermehr> with automator you can just scirpt a bundle of single applescripts
18:49 < fallouty> ---v1p3r rulz---
18:49 < fallouty> heh
18:49 < MrMini> nah, its not a happy cookie, Keeps quiting. Im gonna go watch the simpsons..
18:49 < v1p3r> yay
18:49 < v1p3r> i rule
18:49 < v1p3r> apparently
18:49 < MrMini> godspeed everybody
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18:50 < fallouty> v1p3r you really made it ?
18:50 < v1p3r> made what?
18:50 < fallouty> FloydZilla
18:50 < v1p3r> erm
18:50 < v1p3r> no :/
18:50 < v1p3r> thats nothing to do with me
18:50 < fallouty> then why did you edit the page
18:50 < v1p3r> ????
18:50 < v1p3r> what?
18:50 < fallouty> REMEMBER: THE THREAD IS POSTED BY DansFloyd, BUT FLOYDZILLA IS MADE BY v1p3r!
18:50 < courtc> funny how build compilers get all the credit..
18:50 < fallouty> http://www.ipodlinux.org/FloydZilla
18:50 < v1p3r> erm
18:51 < v1p3r> im rather confused now
18:51 < fallouty> wasn't there earlier today
18:51 < v1p3r> ive never edited anything in the ipl wiki
18:51 < v1p3r> afaik
18:51 < fallouty> someone put yer name there
18:51 < v1p3r> indeed
18:52 < v1p3r> he used an iboy build i made once and my affiliation with him ends there :/
18:52 < ShiintoRyuu> DOWNLOAD BINARY -
18:52 < ShiintoRyuu> Download ZIP (http://floyd.pshost.net/FloydZilla(source).rar)
18:52 < ShiintoRyuu> DOWNLOAD SOURCE -
18:52 < ShiintoRyuu> Download ZIP
18:53 < ShiintoRyuu> uhm.. thats vice versa?
18:53 < fallouty> heh
18:53 < fallouty> http://www.ipodlinux.org/PHOTO_IPOD_MAYIX_INSTALL
18:53 < davidc__> umm
18:54 < davidc__> someone claled hanniblelecter did it.
18:54 < Daishi> ShiintoRyuu: so edit it
18:54 < davidc__> gah,
18:54 < Daishi> it is a wiki fix it
18:54 < davidc__> its vandalism
18:54 < davidc__> gonna roll it back
18:55 < ShiintoRyuu> From wikiPodLinux
18:55 < ShiintoRyuu> You have to login to edit pages. 
18:56 < Daishi> register its easy
18:56 < Daishi> the wiki is a nice way to contribute if you cant code
18:57 < Daishi> erm that MAYIX thing links to the apple os
18:57 < nimmermehr> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Iboy.JPG this pic is not good to be placed there ^^
18:58 < Daishi> fixed
18:58 < nimmermehr> http://168.234.106.10 ping him to the knees ;)
18:59 < Daishi> heh
18:59 < ShiintoRyuu> whos apache is that?
18:59 < Daishi> some lamers
18:59 < davidc__> nimmermehr: what are you talking about?
18:59 < davidc__> why ping what to whos knees?
18:59 < davidc__> we don't discuss ddosing in here.
19:00 < nimmermehr> its the apache form the mayix_install wiki entrie
19:00 < Daishi> he was kidding
19:00 < Daishi> flooding is lame
19:00 < nimmermehr> sure.
19:01 < Daishi> davidc_: on that wiki page some guy linked to the apple os from his ipod
19:01 < Daishi> erm technomayix
19:01 < aegray> wha?
19:02 < nimmermehr> ^^
19:02 < Daishi> http://www.ipodlinux.org/PHOTO_IPOD_MAYIX_INSTALL there
19:02 < Daishi> i changed it though so all is well
19:02 < Daishi> that howto seems useless however
19:03 < courtc> my_sw.bin also contains the apple os..
19:03 < nimmermehr> you also changed he iboy screen which showed pokemon mario roms...?
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19:03 < v1p3r> lo
19:03 < nimmermehr> its still there
19:03 < z3rb> lo
19:03 < Daishi> cohmapapp: yea i just noticed it had that
19:04 < davidc__> heh.. I'll remove the linux bit
19:04 < davidc__> with my_Sw
19:04 < Daishi> erm courtc 
19:04 < Daishi> damn tab
19:04 < davidc__> wait.
19:04 < davidc__> someone beat me to it :P
19:04 < Daishi> pwned!
19:06 < z3rb> :/
19:06 < davidc__> ./kick Daishi pwned!
19:07 < Daishi> hehehe
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19:12 < davidc__> Luke - you've got wiki admin rights?
19:12 < ShiintoRyuu> <Daishi> http://www.ipodlinux.org/PHOTO_IPOD_MAYIX_INSTALL there <- is that 1 cylinder enaugh?
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19:14 < Daishi> from cylinder 1-2 is how i have mine
19:15 < Daishi> and 3-5 for the other partition
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19:15 < Daishi> and it works fine though i have an issue now most likely due to my screw up
19:15 < ShiintoRyuu> an issue?
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19:16 < Daishi> my own problem with firmware and im unaware of anyone else having it so dont worry
19:16 < Daishi> but for my 40gb and i believe for everyone elses thats how its setup
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20:09 < leachbj> does anyone have a iTunesDB that has podcasts in it?
20:13 < fallouty> hy leachbj
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20:31 < Toxikated> good afternoon everyone
20:32 < courtc> good afternoon Toxikated 
20:33 < davidc__> good afternoon Toxikated
20:35 < Toxikated> hey guys, what's new?
20:35 < davidc__> its afternoon now... thats whats new.
20:36 < courtc> its been afternoon for a while and is edging on evening.
20:37 < leachbj> dark outside here...
20:40 < davidc__> its nice and sunny here.
20:40 < courtc> oh, I guess you mean ipodlinux wise. well in podzilla I changed the slider, but unless you program you won't be able to tell. I also added 'make translate' for generating a translation template file. Kernel wise, bern redid the sound stuff and allowed for recording on 4gs. That's whats up. but you were probably just being conversational, no?
20:40 < davidc__> and I get to watch the heavy equippment working on the railroat tracks outside
20:41 < davidc__> *road
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20:41 < fallouty> night, and raining like hell here :|
20:41 < Toxikated> yeah i was just being conversational :P  though i did notice your efforts in the cvs log
20:41 < courtc> Hello Kevin.
20:43 < ShiintoRyuu> where does the new podzilla want to save its recorded wav files?
20:43 < Chahk> courtc, when you say "redid the sound stuff", does that mean fixing the skipping issue?
20:43 < leachbj> in /Recordings
20:43 < leachbj> I think
20:43 < Toxikated> arent they in hp/Recordings?
20:44 < Toxikated> i always noticed the folder there but have never been able to record with my 4G
20:44 < ShiintoRyuu>  /Recordings does not exist
20:44 < Toxikated> until now, though i still havent tried it out
20:44 < courtc> podzilla saves them in /Recording  you can link that directory to wherever you like.
20:44 < courtc> erm.. /Recordings
20:44 < ShiintoRyuu> courtc: but I first have to create it?
20:44 < courtc> sure
20:45 < courtc> Chahk, no, no i don't.
20:46 < Chahk> The music playback on my 3g is flaky.
20:46 < ShiintoRyuu> mkdir /mnt/ipod_root/Recordings is correct? o.=.o; I just wonder
20:46 < leachbj> yup
20:46 < Chahk> it feels like it's playing at 80% speed and it's stuttering
20:47 < ShiintoRyuu> drwxr-xr-x <- and thats okay?
20:48 < leachbj> yup
20:48 < ShiintoRyuu>  /dev/dsp no such devicd
20:48 < ShiintoRyuu> *device
20:48 < courtc> so, who has podcasts on their iPod?
20:48 < Nikosapi> me
20:48 < Chahk> courtc, I used to  :)
20:49 < ShiintoRyuu> device or resource busy O.=.o
20:50 < Nikosapi> you need the new kernel
20:50 < ShiintoRyuu> okay ^^*
20:53 < courtc> Nikosapi, does the itunesdb browser in podzilla work for you?
20:53 < Nikosapi> not with the podcasts
20:54 < Nikosapi> but im using mpd now, and it's just scanning a folder of about 100 songs, so it doesn't touch the itunesdb file
20:54 < courtc> can you send that iTunesDB (one with podcasts) to bern? 
20:54 < Nikosapi> sure
20:54 < Nikosapi> what's his email
20:54 < courtc> leachbj (AT) bouncycastle.org
20:55 < Nikosapi> k
20:56 < leachbj> just put it up on web if you want
20:56 < ShiintoRyuu> does it support the 96khz mode?
20:57 < ShiintoRyuu> it crashed o.=.o;
20:58 < Nikosapi> i sent it
20:58 < Nikosapi> it would take too long to go put it on my server
20:58 < courtc> what ipod gen ShiintoRyuu?
20:58 < ShiintoRyuu> photo
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20:59 < Daishi> grr i cant understand WHY my_sw.bin wont fit
21:00 < Daishi> most people say even 8mb is good and my my_sw is double that and i never had this problem before
21:00 < MrMini> cus its too big
21:00 < Daishi> i know
21:00 < Daishi> but i dont get why
21:01 < MrMini> um.. can't you make it again and see if it works
21:01 < Daishi> it shouldnt be
21:01 < Daishi> i did
21:01 < MrMini> ask a smart person whats wrong
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21:01 < Daishi> ooo
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21:01 < Daishi> i found my old firmware dump
21:01 < Daishi> its really small
21:01 < Daishi> this should work
21:02 < ShiintoRyuu> now its crashed and does not want ro reboot
21:03 < ShiintoRyuu> :/ neat..
21:05 < leachbj> Nikosapi: thanks
21:05 < Nikosapi> no problemo
21:07 < jmsbwtr> now recoding works on 4gs is it any nearer working on minis?
21:07 < ShiintoRyuu> it does not work on photo O.=.o or at last mine crashed at 44.1 khz
21:08 < courtc> www.ipodlinux.org/blog?p=24
21:09 < jmsbwtr> aa, thanks, sorry!
21:10 < macpod> Do you need podcast containing itunesdb's?
21:11 < leachbj> Nikosapi, so with the bad libitunesdb what should I see?
21:11 < ShiintoRyuu> with a spinning hard drive and backlight on - how long does it take to drain the battery?
21:12 < Nikosapi> it'll just freeze once you click music
21:13 < Nikosapi> i mean songs, or artists
21:13 < Nikosapi> ill tell you exactly, just a sec
21:13 < leachbj> thats just on the ipod though?  on the desktop podzilla?
21:14 < Nikosapi> i never tried on desktop podzilla
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21:16 < leachbj> Nikosapi: not sure, they look the same on the desktop.
21:17 < leachbj> anyhow i'm off... bye all.
21:17 < Nikosapi> bye
21:19 < courtc> Nikosapi, can go ahead and send that to me as well?
21:19 < Nikosapi> ya, let me plug in my ipod
21:19 < Toxikated> i thought freezing on the music menus was a known and common issue
21:19 < courtc> Toxikated, yea, its because of libitunesdb, we're trying to fix it.
21:20 < fallouty> anyone gets playlists listed twice, and hanging on playback ?
21:20 < Toxikated> ah
21:20 < Nikosapi> courtc - email address?
21:21 < Toxikated> fallouty:  I think those are pretty common as well
21:21 < fallouty> damn
21:21 < courtc> ccavin  gmail
21:21 < Toxikated> search the forums
21:21 < Toxikated> i know i've seen it come up there before, maybe there's some workaround or something
21:22 < Nikosapi> I found the work around
21:22 < Nikosapi> a very crapy one but it works
21:24 < Nikosapi> the easiest thing to do is get rid of all your podcasts
21:24 < Chahk> but we like the podcasts  :p
21:24 < fallouty> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2918&highlight=playlist+twice
21:25 < fallouty> says there the problem is podcast -> I DONT have podcasts
21:25 < Nikosapi> i know that's why my cheap little fix allows you to have the podcasts in the apple os 
21:25 < Toxikated> you could go back to doing podcasts the old fashioned way
21:26 < Toxikated> (ie not in itunes, and just having a podcasts playlist)
21:26 < Nikosapi> that too
21:26 < Nikosapi> but it's nice to have the ipod save your place in the podcast your listening to
21:26 < Chahk> fallouty, have you ever had podcasts on your ipod?
21:26 < fallouty> no
21:27 < Nikosapi> and the new apple firmware update makes your ipod faster
21:27 < Chahk> there's a new apple firmware?
21:27 < Nikosapi> the one that adds the podcast menu
21:28 < Daishi> grr i think i messed up
21:28 < Chahk> idunno, seems just as slow as always to me.
21:29 < Nikosapi> what version ipod do you have
21:29 < Chahk> 3g 20 gig
21:29 < Toxikated> no new firmware for you then
21:29 < Nikosapi> exactly
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21:30 < Chahk> the 2005-06-26 had no changes in it for 3g's?
21:30 < Toxikated> nope
21:30 < Toxikated> 4G, mini/mini2 and color/photo only
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21:32 < Chahk> did apple discontinue the 40 gig model?  I can't see it in their store anymore.
21:32 < Toxikated> yes
21:32 < macpod> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3364&highlight=
21:32 < macpod> read that and laugh before I delete it
21:32 < Toxikated> 20gig and 60gig are the only capacities for full size ipods now
21:33 < Nikosapi> what an ass
21:33 < Nikosapi> omg! that was Steve Jobs!!!
21:33 < fallouty> lol
21:35 < Daishi> woo its back!
21:35 < MrMini> http://www.quietlegend.com <--- what do you think, too cartoony?
21:35 < Chahk> have you fellas seen this: http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=2852
21:35 < Chahk> are these available yet?
21:36 < Toxikated> not in ipods
21:36 < Nikosapi> MrMini - nice, if you want it less cartoony make it more metalic looking
21:36 < Chahk> that was my next question  :)
21:36 < Toxikated> im sure the next gen ipods will use them
21:36 < Toxikated> hence the lack of 40 and 80 gig ipods right now
21:37 < Chahk> is it feasable to swap an ipod HD with one of those new higher capacity ones?
21:37 < ShiintoRyuu> YAY
21:38 < ShiintoRyuu> got it rebooting
21:38 < Toxikated> MrMini: looks ok.  you used dreamweaver though ;)
21:38 < courtc> too loud
21:39 < courtc> don't use tables for format layout
21:39 < Chahk> use frames!  muhahaha!
21:40 < MrMini> whats wrong with dreamweaver
21:40 < MrMini> frames suck
21:40 < courtc> ugh.. s/^.*/never &/
21:40 < MrMini> ?
21:40 < Nikosapi> hey courtc, mpd seems to have problems with podcasts aswell
21:40 < courtc> never use frames
21:40 < Chahk> i was kiddin.
21:40 < Chahk> frames are the devil.
21:41 < Toxikated> i'm just biased and dont like dreamweaver
21:41 < Toxikated> most people will tell you to do it yourself, and they're right
21:41 < Toxikated> but yeah i guess dreamweaver isnt THAT bad
21:42 < courtc> I'm more biased
21:42 < courtc> never use anythink other than a text editor..
21:42 < courtc> s/k/g/
21:42 < ShiintoRyuu> ^.=.^  I once used frontpage
21:42 < Toxikated> courtc is right, you have SO much more control over your layout
21:42 < Chahk> uo-oh...  he said the f-word.
21:42 < Toxikated> plus your html is much cleaner
21:43 < MrMini> Dreamweaver makes it so much easier, and you still have control
21:43 < Nikosapi> i use front page cuz im lazy
21:43 < Toxikated> i do PHP for a guy who uses dreamweaver and it drives me nuts fishing through a million nested tables all day
21:43 < MrMini> my html is never clean, i don't do little fancy spaces in and stuff
21:43 < ShiintoRyuu> Chahk: well.. now I take a standard text editor like nano/kedit :P
21:44 < Toxikated> thats not what i mean by clean
21:44 < Toxikated> i mean you dont have nested tables, and you can use CSS to style it
21:44 < MrMini> ic...
21:44 < MrMini> :|
21:44 < courtc> that and you can make it validate: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quietlegend.com%2Fquietlegend%2Findex.html
21:44 < MrMini> Well you know and me and code just don't work..
21:45 < Toxikated> you're just being lazy.  i was too a long time ago, but once you actually get around to learning the code its easy and better
21:46 < MrMini> but you can't see what your doing
21:46 < MrMini> and it gets confusing
21:46 < Toxikated> you only need to see what you're doing when you dont know what you're doing
21:46 < Toxikated> if you learn html then you can picture it in your head when you look at the markup
21:46 < Nikosapi> i know basic html, that's what i like about front page, i can write my code and preview it with the click of my mouse
21:47 < MrMini> ok ok, lets just stop this. We will get told of for having an argument
21:47 < Toxikated> i wasnt really arguing.  you can do whatever you want, i dont care.  im just sharing my experience with you
21:47 < Nikosapi> i got to go eat, see you people l8er
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21:48 < MrMini> mmm yeah, but david is ruthless...
21:52 < Toxikated> dual monitors are cool >_>
21:53 < Chahk> heh, ever try working on 4 monitors?
21:53 < Chahk> I used to have that at my old job.
21:53 < Toxikated> haha no.  cant afford 4 LCDs and 4 CRTs = too much power/desk space/generated heat :P
21:54 < Chahk> well, at least you won't need to turn the heater on during winter  :p
21:54 < Toxikated> how were they arranged?  like 2 above 2, or all in a line?
21:54 < Toxikated> and what was this job
21:54 < Chahk> I had an L-shaped deak, so they aere kind of in a half-circle around me.
21:55 < Chahk> were*
21:55 < Chahk> I worked as a aoftware developer for an airtime reseller.
21:55 < Chahk> software*
21:55 < Chahk> dammit I can't type today
21:55 < Toxikated> nice
22:02 < nimmermehr> someone with the ipod photo here?
22:02 < nimmermehr> NOT THE COLOR
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22:05 < MrMini> i got a photo
22:06 < Daishi> woo!
22:06 < nimmermehr> http://www.confidence-mag.de/ipl/nimmerzilla_gui-test.zip can you maybe test this out?
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22:12 < nimmermehr> works fine for me http://www.confidence-mag.de/ipl/nimmerzilla-gui.mov for you too?
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22:14 < MrMini> yeah i will test it
22:18 < nimmermehr> tried to make it in a single .c so taht it can allways be build form the cvs when just adding it to the makefile. right know its pretty much a copy of the vipodzilla gui. but have allready does some improves thought much about how to integrate such a gui to all podzilla apps, not only for the start. but knwo there are much dislikes like the redraw on ever wheelclick, net to fix its. make the scrolling not smoth enough
22:18 < ShiintoRyuu> 00:02 <nimmermehr> someone with the ipod photo here?
22:18 < ShiintoRyuu> 00:02 <nimmermehr> NOT THE COLOR
22:18 < ShiintoRyuu> difference?
22:18 < ShiintoRyuu> someone told me photo = color
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22:19 < MrMini> Works
22:19 < MrMini> very very very cool
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22:19 < nimmermehr> sweet. know we/i need to get performence it a oop gui. or even more. build a nicer oop gui
22:21 < MrMini> hm... im gonna make a vid
22:21 < MrMini> can i?
22:21 < nimmermehr> video?
22:21 < MrMini> yeah, to show on the forums
22:22 < Nikosapi> of yourself? i don't think I want to see that
22:22 < nimmermehr> mh if you allready want....
22:22 < Nikosapi> lol j/k
22:22 < MrMini> LOL
22:22 < nimmermehr> i would wait unitl there is more to see. not that ever troll is coming to ask me when iam busy
22:22 < MrMini> its a pitty theres  no animation to one thing to another
22:23 < nimmermehr> http://www.confidence-mag.de/ipl/nimmerzilla-gui.mov i allready made one to show a friend who has a mini ^^
22:23 < MrMini> oh rite ok
22:23 < MrMini> Am i that friend? i got a mini
22:24 < nimmermehr> yeah there is no animation cause the images redraw the you use the clickwheel =(
22:24 < MrMini> the photos my dads but he dosent mind me messing around with it
22:24 < ShiintoRyuu> it feels like being ignored
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22:25 < nimmermehr> MrMini: but the build didnt wokr at you mini, right?
22:26 < MrMini> dunno, i'll try
22:27 < nimmermehr> no dont think will work. didnt even made the images for grayscale so will be messed
22:27 < MrMini> testing.......
22:27 < MrMini> lol works
22:27 < MrMini> looks pretty good too
22:27 < MrMini> I'll make a vid
22:28 < Toxikated> i'm braindead...what's the best way for me to get a random double between 0 and 3
22:28 < josh_> drand48() * 3
22:28 < josh_> if your system has it
22:28 < Toxikated> wait a minute
22:28 < Toxikated> i really am braindead
22:28 < josh_> er, * 3.0
22:29 < nimmermehr> all the little bug like when you go back to the menu at you allways see the finder are because you would need to modifiy more than just the gui.c. and so every new cvs would overwrite the functions
22:29 < Toxikated> smart_rand(300) / 100
22:29 < josh_> ((double)smart_rand(300)) / 100.0
22:29 < josh_> remember to .0 and (double) *everything*. C floats act in mysterious ways.
22:29 < Toxikated> haha ok
22:30 < Toxikated> i cant believe it took me so long to think of that
22:30 < Toxikated> O_o
22:30 < josh_> smart_rand(300)/100 would give you an *integer* in [0,3)
22:31 < Toxikated> ok, thanks :)
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22:38 < Toxikated> getting close to a possibly release-able version of itanks :)
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22:59 < Toxikated> how do i test photo compatibility in an x11 podzilla build?
23:00 < Toxikated> i built microwindows for the photo, but how do i build photo podzilla for the desktop
23:00 < Toxikated> make IPOD=PHOTO ?
23:01 < Raim> I think it is make IPOD=1 PHOTO=1
23:01 < Raim> err
23:02 < Raim> make PHOTO=1
23:03 < Toxikated> it compiles but when i execute it its still in black and white
23:04 < Raim> isn't it black&white everywhere?
23:04 < Raim> dunno, I never saw a photo version...
23:05 < Toxikated> i thought you could compile a "fake" photo version on the desktop
23:05 < Toxikated> with the bigger screen + color
23:11 < Toxikated> there we go
23:11 < Toxikated> i guess i screwed something up while compiling microwindows
23:12 < MrMini> cya l8er everybody
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23:16 < meatmanek> aegray, you around?
23:17 < meatmanek> fine then.
23:17 < meatmanek> aegray, if you see this, check out http://usb8x.sourceforge.net/
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23:22 < Raim> Makefile:209: *** missing separator.  Stop.
23:22 < Raim> it's the actual CVS and I'm on cygwin, what could be wrong?
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