--- Log opened Wed Aug 17 00:00:01 2005 00:07 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:16 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:19 < macpod> aegray do you use printk for debugging? 00:19 < aegray> from kernel yea 00:20 -!- knet [n=dtaylor@dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:21 < macpod> Do you need to define anything? 00:21 < aegray> if you're in kernel code, just printk(KERN_ERR "blbalba"); 00:22 < macpod> ah.. probably it.. I am sending it to std output as opposed to an error stream. mm buffering 00:31 -!- Eko [n=Eko@user-12l2fjm.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:33 < aegray> hmm 00:33 < aegray> my photo won't turn on now 00:33 < macpod> iComa? or no battery 00:33 < meatmanek> aegray, yeah, my photo wouldn't turn on today.... 00:33 < meatmanek> it was wteird. 00:33 < meatmanek> weird* 00:34 < meatmanek> I held down menu+action and it eventually booted. 00:34 < aegray> hmm 00:34 < aegray> it showed a black and white charging symbol that i've never seen before 00:34 < aegray> and the bat is full 00:34 < meatmanek> weird. 00:34 < meatmanek> take a photo, quick! 00:37 < boza111> why is it not booting ? did you do anything unussual 00:37 < macpod> printk just does not like me.. 00:38 < aegray> what are you doing? 00:38 < macpod> I'm tracing back the pcm read functions in the kernel 00:39 < aegray> are you sure its getting reached? 00:39 < macpod> I have it say taco repeatedly (unbuffered now) when the read or write commands are acessed 00:39 < macpod> They have to be, I'm accessing the hardware 00:39 < aegray> and what's the print lilne? 00:40 < macpod> printk(KERN_ERR, "Taco Taco Taco\n"); 00:40 < aegray> printk(KERN_ERR "Taco Taco Taco\n"); 00:40 < aegray> no comma 00:41 < macpod> gah 00:44 < macpod> nah, still does not come up 00:44 < aegray> how are you trying to view it 00:44 < aegray> ? 00:44 < macpod> quit podzilla and check it there 00:45 < macpod> it worked for checking power on/off states 00:45 < aegray> pipe dmesg to textviewer 00:45 < macpod> k 00:47 < aegray> iboy on photo anyone? 00:47 < aegray> hehe 00:52 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:57 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088E8F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:57 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 01:02 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:04 < aegray> anybody here have a 4g? 01:09 < courtc> mini 01:11 < aegray> will you test iBoy for me later 01:11 < aegray> ? 01:11 < courtc> yea, np 01:13 < courtc> figured out why poweroff didn't work for me.. can't be plugged in ;) 01:13 < aegray> lo 01:13 < aegray> l 01:13 < aegray> forgot about that 01:25 -!- Pokeon [I=Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:36 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:55 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 01:56 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 02:00 -!- Vaffanculo [n=Van@208-58-242-242.s242.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 -!- nilss [i=nils@nilss.prout.be] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:01 -!- Vaffanculo is now known as Vanquisher 02:01 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:09 < aegray> courtc: ping 02:09 < courtc> pongo 02:09 < aegray> hold on one sec 02:12 < aegray> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/aegray/minitest.tgz 02:13 < aegray> i'm just seeing if the display shows up 02:13 < aegray> oh wait 02:13 < aegray> lemme fix something first 02:16 -!- Eko [n=Eko@user-12l2fjm.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 -!- Vaffanculo [n=Van@208-58-242-11.s11.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:21 < courtc> iBoy is unsupported on this hardware.. 02:23 < courtc> aegray-^ 02:25 -!- Lone_Wolf [n=chatzill@rhstys15c045.nbnet.nb.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:26 < Lone_Wolf> hey 02:28 -!- Lone_Wolf [n=chatzill@rhstys15c045.nbnet.nb.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 02:32 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:33 -!- Raim_ [i=Raim@dial10352.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:42 < aegray> oh right 02:42 < aegray> damn 02:42 < aegray> haha 02:43 < macpod> I want to have a poll to find out how many people have pron on their iPod. 02:43 < aegray> pron? 02:43 < macpod> pornographic material 02:44 < macpod> I figured out why audio didn't work 02:44 < aegray> why? 02:44 < macpod> or rather, why it did not print it 02:44 < macpod> It is called indirectly 02:44 < macpod> Which sucks because now I'll have to figure out how to make a special read feature 02:45 < macpod> and here is a question 02:45 < macpod> audio is a character device 02:46 < macpod> but if you add something like a function called super_read() 02:46 < macpod> then compile the kernel, does that mean you would have to rebuild the compiler so it knows that exists? 02:46 < aegray> rebuild the compiler? 02:46 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@208-58-242-29.s29.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:47 < macpod> What I said was completely incoherent. Let me restate it 02:47 < macpod> I want to add a function in the audio.c file for the linux kernel called ipodaudio_var() 02:47 -!- Vanquisher1 is now known as Vanquisher 02:47 < macpod> I'll then state it can be acessed by readvar() 02:48 < macpod> this function returns an int and is located in the kernel 02:48 < macpod> Now, how could I access this from pozilla? I see you make an entry in the oss, but then where do you go from here? 02:48 < macpod> oss reads from /dev/dsp 02:49 < aegray> either have to do it through a proc entry, or a devfs entry afaik 02:49 < aegray> or syscall 02:49 < macpod> well hold on 02:49 < macpod> I just wrote a special read function 02:49 < macpod> in the kernel 02:50 < macpod> I cannot call it from podzilla because that would require me to edit the linux header files to include this function 02:50 < aegray> if your calling something in kernel space from user space, you have to either use a proc entry, a devfs entry or a syscall 02:50 < aegray> your best bet is a proc entry 02:50 < aegray> that just prints out the value 02:50 < aegray> look at tsbwhatever.c 02:51 < aegray> it has a proc entry in it 02:51 < aegray> or pcf something 02:51 < aegray> one of the tow 02:51 < macpod> bleh 02:51 < aegray> its pretty easy 02:51 < macpod> My reason for doing this was to have a level metering function 02:52 < aegray> hmm 02:52 < aegray> i dunno the best way to do that 02:52 < macpod> I was going to have a function in the kernel that acts as ipodaudio_read function except it took a pointer in addition 02:52 < macpod> as each sample was parsed in, it would check to see if it was too high and if so, call that function 02:53 < macpod> but it seems in linux you cannot do that so easily 02:53 < aegray> ah ok - do it through an ioctl like ipodaudio_read was 02:53 < macpod> well yea, that is what I was going to do, but I miss the link between that function and oss.c 02:53 < macpod> oss.c calls read and then the device /dev/dsp 02:57 < macpod> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8327177210 02:57 < aegray> lol 02:58 < macpod> alright, I need to take a break from this. It is probably something simple that I am missing since I haven't done this work before 02:59 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 -!- Vaffanculo [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:08 -!- Davey- [n=infranat@d66-183-225-86.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- zer0python [n=zer0pyth@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 -!- [1]Hollis [n=Hollis@dblt-aa454.gtcom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 -!- [1]Hollis is now known as Hollis 03:45 -!- Hollis is now known as Hollis_Jamison 03:45 < Hollis_Jamison> Is there already a Hollis in here? 03:45 < aegray> you are 03:45 < Hollis_Jamison> Besides me, it says the name is already registered :( 03:45 < aegray> it doesn't have to be here - anywhere on the system 03:45 < aegray> so we might not know 03:45 < Hollis_Jamison> Oh okay 03:46 < Hollis_Jamison> Well this sucks, oh well, full name is good enough 03:48 < Hollis_Jamison> Thanks to Podzilla I convinced my teacher my iPod was a calculator 03:48 < Hollis_Jamison> What an idiot 03:49 < courtc> haha 03:49 < Vanquisher> rofl 03:49 < Hollis_Jamison> I was like "See it's a calculator, and it even plots out fractals! *Loads up mandlepod*" 03:49 < Hollis_Jamison> "Wow that's a really cool calculator there Hollis" 03:49 < Vanquisher> hahahahaah 03:50 < Hollis_Jamison> Guess the headphones hooked up to them wasen't a giveaway 03:50 < Vanquisher> guess not 03:50 < aegray> it tells you the numbers 03:50 < Vanquisher> exactly 03:50 < Vanquisher> its for the blind 03:50 < Vanquisher> i guess 03:51 < Hollis_Jamison> I want a Generation 1 iPod 03:51 < Hollis_Jamison> They are the best looking to me 03:51 < Vanquisher> i have a gen 2 03:51 < Hollis_Jamison> Gen 3 here 03:51 < Vanquisher> they are better 03:51 < Vanquisher> well i have a gen 2 and a photo 03:51 < Vanquisher> (: 03:51 < Hollis_Jamison> I'm getting a photo when iPodlinux gets supported 03:51 < Vanquisher> thanks to aegray i dont learn anything in school because i watch movies all day 03:51 < Vanquisher> :) 03:52 < Vanquisher> Hollis_Jamison, i got ipodlinux on my photo 03:52 < Hollis_Jamison> And it works? 03:52 < Vanquisher> yeah.... 03:52 < Hollis_Jamison> I thought it wasen't supported yet 03:52 < aegray> ~unsupported 03:52 < aegray> ~ping 03:52 < Vanquisher> but it works 03:52 < Hollis_Jamison> Any problems? 03:52 < aegray> damn server 03:53 < Vanquisher> aegray, when i fail something in school i blame it on you 03:54 < Vanquisher> j/k :) 03:54 < Vanquisher> Hollis_Jamison, na 03:54 < Hollis_Jamison> How good does doom run on Gen 3? 03:54 < Hollis_Jamison> Does it run at all? 03:54 < aegray> not very well 03:54 < Vanquisher> doom? 03:54 < Vanquisher> wtf 03:54 < Vanquisher> since when does doom run on the ipod 03:54 < aegray> this morning 03:54 < Vanquisher> :O 03:54 < aegray> or a month ago 03:54 < aegray> either way 03:54 < Hollis_Jamison> Yea it looks sweet on Photos 03:54 < Vanquisher> aegray, hows it on the color 03:54 < Vanquisher> ah 03:54 < aegray> its like 4fpg 03:54 < aegray> fps* 03:54 < Vanquisher> ROFL 03:55 < Vanquisher> 4 ROFL 03:55 < Vanquisher> oh well 03:55 < Hollis_Jamison> Does it have sound? 03:55 < aegray> i can fix that 03:55 < aegray> not yet 03:55 < Vanquisher> negative 03:55 < Vanquisher> video doesnt have sound either 03:55 < Vanquisher> (: 03:55 < Hollis_Jamison> Well jeez, I'm about to go get a photo later lol 03:55 * Vanquisher pokes aegray 03:55 < Vanquisher> video + sound 03:55 < aegray> i'm workin on iboy 03:55 < aegray> iboy works on photo now 03:55 < Vanquisher> :D 03:55 < Hollis_Jamison> yes work on iBoy for Gen 3 :x 03:56 < Vanquisher> no 03:56 < Vanquisher> :D 03:56 < Vanquisher> photo 03:56 < Hollis_Jamison> :'( 03:56 < Vanquisher> buy a photo you n00b :) 03:56 < Vanquisher> its color 03:56 < Hollis_Jamison> I want to play Pokemon!! 03:56 < Vanquisher> rofl 03:56 < Vanquisher> pokemon 03:56 < Hollis_Jamison> I know, I was waiting for this to work for it, I guess it already does 03:56 < Hollis_Jamison> I'll go get one in September 03:57 < Vanquisher> true! 03:57 < Hollis_Jamison> Is it possible to make a better MP3 player in Linux? If it worked as well as the Apple one, I wouldn't even touch Apple's firmware 03:57 < Hollis_Jamison> Maybe I should screw around see what I can come out with 03:57 < Vanquisher> Hollis_Jamison, ipodlinux adds support for more formats 03:57 < Vanquisher> flac 03:57 < Vanquisher> etc.. 03:57 < Vanquisher> plus cool games and video 03:58 < Hollis_Jamison> I know that, but the MP3 player buffers if it didn't do that I wouldn't have a reason to switch to Apple's 03:58 < Hollis_Jamison> I'd stay on Linux full time 03:59 < aegray> use mpd 03:59 < aegray> it doesn't do that 03:59 < Hollis_Jamison> Really? 03:59 < Hollis_Jamison> Awesome 03:59 < Hollis_Jamison> (I'm sort of new by the way, this is my first night on it) 03:59 < aegray> Maybe I should screw around see what I can come out with 03:59 < aegray> cocky for someone who's new at this 03:59 < aegray> hehe 04:00 < Hollis_Jamison> Well I mean, I'm new to iPod Linux, not programming 04:00 < aegray> k 04:00 < Hollis_Jamison> I'm not exactly good but you know, I can do a little 04:00 < aegray> http://pastebin.com/338777 <-- to anyone who can help me out 04:02 < Hollis_Jamison> Pastebin = Cool 04:02 < macpod> what's the prob withthat code? 04:02 < aegray> it looks like hell - i'll paste an image if you want 04:03 < aegray> its supposed to go from 160x140 2bpp to 138x110 2bpp 04:03 < aegray> hold on 04:04 < aegray> actually - no i can't 04:04 < aegray> the camera doesn't catch the ugliness well enough 04:04 < aegray> it looks like its dropping lines at random spots 04:04 < Hollis_Jamison> Theres no download for MPD on here, at least I don't see it on their page 04:04 < aegray> ~mpd 04:04 < courtc> ~mpd 04:04 < aegray> damnit 04:05 < aegray> hold on 04:05 < aegray> lemme restart 04:05 < aegray> damn linksys 04:08 -!- iplbot [n=iplbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:08 < courtc> so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/ www.ipodlinux.org/MPD 04:08 < courtc> ~mpd 04:08 < iplbot> mpd is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD. Binaries/Source are available at http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/ A tutorial is at http://nanoSouffle.net:8090/beta/nanoMod?name=podMPD Other than that, you're on your own! [from courtc] 04:08 < aegray> ~ping me 04:08 < iplbot> I assume you meant ping. PONG [from aegray] 04:08 < aegray> ~good iplbot 04:08 < Hollis_Jamison> That certainly works 04:08 < aegray> except nanosouffle isn't up anymore 04:09 < aegray> i have the howto on my comp 04:09 < courtc> wikize it! 04:09 < aegray> so much work... 04:11 < aegray> hmmm 04:11 < aegray> plus i can't find it 04:14 < Hollis_Jamison> There isn't easy way to do it? 04:14 < courtc> good excuse 04:14 < Hollis_Jamison> Like how many steps is it 04:14 < aegray> 35 04:14 < courtc> 187 04:14 < Hollis_Jamison> Esh 04:14 < Hollis_Jamison> Yep, I have to go anyway, maybe someone will have it tomorrow 04:15 -!- Hollis_Jamison is now known as Hollis_Jamison|S 04:15 -!- courtc is now known as Courtney_Cavin 04:16 -!- aegray is now known as Adam_Johnston 04:17 < Adam_Johnston> woo 04:17 < Courtney_Cavin> look at my whole name in my nick! 04:18 < Courtney_Cavin> I think the maxlen when up with hyperion 04:22 -!- Courtney_Cavin is now known as Courtney_Michael 04:23 < Courtney_Michael> hmm.. tried for the whole thing.. no go 04:23 -!- Courtney_Michael is now known as courtc 04:23 < Adam_Johnston> haha 04:23 -!- aegray_ [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:24 < Adam_Johnston> that bastard! 04:24 -!- Adam_Johnston is now known as aegray 04:29 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:34 -!- Pokeon [i=Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:57 -!- A-K [n=A-K@MTL-HSE-ppp179562.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [] 05:09 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A85B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 05:13 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:15 < knet> I'm attempting to trial poke-zilla on my 2G vfat-formatted ipod mini; can someone please point me to the correct installation instructions? 05:16 < knet> I've looked at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux but the fdisk instructions aren't appropriate (they don't fit in with the location of my vfat partition) 05:17 < knet> (ie, sda2 starts too early on the drive) 05:26 < courtc> 4gig or 6gig? 05:28 < Davey-> anyone try ipod doom with a full version of doom? 05:28 < Davey-> it crashes on mine :S 05:28 < knet> 6G 05:29 < courtc> how many blocks? 05:29 < courtc> actually, I don't care.. 05:29 < knet> On sda1 40131 and on sda2 5960115 05:29 < knet> heh, too late 05:30 < courtc> d 1 n p 1 1 2 n p 3 3 5 t 1 0 w 05:30 < Davey-> ok? 05:31 < knet> ? 05:31 < courtc> fdisk commands.. 05:31 < Davey-> o 05:31 < knet> Ah, makes much more sense now :-) 05:34 < knet> I haven't built the other files yet so I can't check, but I take it those partitions will be large enough to hold podzilla, extras, etc? 05:34 < courtc> yup 05:34 < knet> Thanks courtc 05:34 < courtc> mhmm 05:35 < courtc> if only I was as proficient with opengl 05:36 < knet> Ah, I just re-read http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux and can see the confusion now .. the worded instructions conflict with the examples 05:36 < knet> I should have paid more attention to the worded instructions 05:37 < knet> "Create a new primary partition with a length of 1 cylinder" is followed by an example that creates a 10 cylinder partition 05:38 < courtc> its different for different generations 05:38 < Davey-> t'is alot easier to do with windows 05:38 < Davey-> just to let u know 05:38 < knet> Harder if you don't have a Windows computer ;-) 05:39 * Davey- has 2 xp boxes and one gentoo box 05:39 < Davey-> pretty soon 2 xp boxes, one OSX86 box, and one gentoo box 05:40 * courtc 5 linux, 1/2 winXP 05:40 < knet> courtc, no, my point isn't that the instructions show different output to what I expect.. the instructions themselves conflict internally 05:40 < Vanquisher> rofl 05:40 < Vanquisher> windows sucks 05:40 < Vanquisher> and most of the people who have problems are on windows 05:40 < courtc> no kidding 05:40 < Vanquisher> to install ipodlinux is like million times easier on linux 05:40 < Vanquisher> not windows 05:40 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-210-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:41 < courtc> hey E 05:41 < Davey-> i installed it in like 30 seconds on my windows box :P 05:41 < Vanquisher> oh well 05:41 < EvilDude> 'lo C 05:41 < Vanquisher> windows sucks anyway :D 05:41 < Vanquisher> tralalalala 05:41 < knet> You just have to make sure you pay attention to the correct bits of the instructions and it is easy on Linux :-) 05:41 < courtc> Davey-, try instlling MPD on windows ;) 05:41 < Vanquisher> haha yeah! 05:41 < Vanquisher> rofl 05:42 < Vanquisher> i got 4 gentoo boxes 05:42 < Vanquisher> one dual-boots 05:42 < courtc> speaking of.. I told bern I'd put mpdc in cvs 05:42 < Vanquisher> you should 05:42 < EvilDude> :) 05:42 < EvilDude> yay! 05:42 < Davey-> well arent you "leet" I didnt ask how big your ego was on the topic 05:43 < Vanquisher> im just stating what i have everyone else did 05:43 < Vanquisher> lol 05:43 < Vanquisher> i dont care if you use linux or windows 05:43 < Vanquisher> its not my problem 05:44 < Vanquisher> ugh im pissed battlefield2 was suposed to come today 05:44 < Vanquisher> :( 05:44 < courtc> the point was that alot of linux users don't need tings like and installer to install ipodlinux 05:44 < courtc> things* an* 05:44 < Vanquisher> exactly 05:45 < courtc> die opengl! 05:45 < Vanquisher> never! 05:45 < Vanquisher> courtc, why die opengl?!!? 05:45 < courtc> (programming) 05:45 < Vanquisher> haha 05:46 < Vanquisher> haha this guy is a idiot 05:46 < Vanquisher> "I ship Worldwide! (but I no longer ship to the moon)" 05:46 < Vanquisher> yeah...really witty buddy 05:47 < Vanquisher> (: 05:48 -!- Decipha [n=sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #iPodLinux 05:48 < Decipha> Hey guys, hows things? 05:48 < Vanquisher> good, yourself 05:48 < Decipha> Not too shabby at all 05:48 < Vanquisher> good to hear 05:49 < Decipha> Don't suppose you know anything about Nano-X draw functions? 05:49 < courtc> . 05:49 < Vanquisher> negative 05:49 < Decipha> Bugger.. 05:50 < courtc> chances are that I do. ;) 05:50 < Vanquisher> :D 05:50 < Decipha> Was just about to ask.... 05:50 < Vanquisher> brb time for more doom3... 05:50 -!- Davey- [n=infranat@d66-183-225-86.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:51 < Decipha> I was playing around with some code, and I noticed that when you call a draw function, it is drawing over the top of the old stuff.... I was wondering if it's possible to replace the old stuff, not draw on top of them. 05:51 < Decipha> If that made any sense 05:51 < courtc> none 05:52 < EvilDude> rofl 05:52 < Decipha> Ok.... let say... I draw item A, then I draw item B in the same position as item A.... I want A to disappear, not sit underneath item B.... which it does... and this can be seen by draw a transparent item over another item 05:52 < courtc> haha 05:53 < Decipha> better? 05:53 < knet> How do you know it's *really* drawing over the top....... it might only be the transparent ones......... ;-) 05:54 < veteran> this sounds like a job for..... Buffer Man! 05:54 < Decipha> I drew a lock, then I drew a half transparent image (top part transparent / bottom black) over the top to test 05:55 < courtc> the screen is just a bit field, when you write over something it is gone.. basically what tranparency does is adds the tranparent item to whats already on the screen 05:55 < courtc> (in this case at least) 05:55 -!- Vanquisher1 [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:56 < Decipha> Damn... that's no good then.... because I wanted to have the title bar bg underneath the items, then replace them with transparent items when they where to disappear..... so obviously that's a no go.... 05:56 * veteran chants buffer buffer buffer 05:56 < courtc> yea, veteran hit the spot 05:57 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A85B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 05:57 < courtc> use a pixmap to buffer the item, do all drawing erasing on the pixmap and copy over each frame you want.. 05:58 < courtc> and that's a simple example of double-buffering 05:58 < veteran> Decipha, each "layer" on your screen should be in a seperate pixmap, then write a routine to render them all onto the actual screen pixmap 05:58 < Decipha> yeah, i've got that working... looks bloody beautiful too, until you run it on the iPod..... I minimized the re-drawing as much as possible, but it's still to slow.... Any image size particularly faster than others? 05:58 < Decipha> *image type 05:59 < courtc> load the images as your app starts (onto a pixmap), blit from there 06:00 < Decipha> Basically I create two pixmaps for the main area, one with the background image, and one with the selected image.... I know it'd work perfectly with a repeating background per item.... but that'd suck 06:00 < courtc> cut down on draws, pre-render everything you can.. 06:01 < veteran> Decipha, are you the one writing the skin thing for podzilla? 06:01 < Decipha> Yes, that's me.... 06:02 < veteran> ah alright... do you have it calculating that inverse of the image each time an item is selected? 06:02 < Decipha> Works brilliantly... I use it on mine... just too slow for release, and it probably rips through the battery. 06:02 < courtc> veteran, XORs are fast on nano-X 06:03 < veteran> faster than copying? 06:03 < courtc> yes, its a draw mode.. 06:03 < veteran> hm alright nevermind then 06:03 < courtc> you can copy with XOR set 06:03 < courtc> thats likely whats happening.. 06:03 < Decipha> What it does, is when you select menu item, it copies the background from the relative pixmap and re-texts it.... It also has to to that for every item when you have scrolled below the visible screen size... hence the problem 06:04 < Decipha> I know I can use XOR, but I re-wrote the normal code so it doesn't use XOR, as XOR makes it look bad. 06:05 < veteran> would it be practical to try using XOR to see if that helps the speed? 06:05 < courtc> Decipha, assign locations on the image, cut into N segments, never draw text directly on the screen, smaller blits are much faster... 06:05 < courtc> if its still slow use dirty rectangles.. 06:06 < courtc> josh_, i need to speak with you about SDL on the ipod when you have time.. 06:06 < Decipha> I'll have a play with it and see what I can do.... 06:06 < EvilDude> courtc when you say opengl i *REALL* hope you dont mean for the iPod 06:06 < courtc> EvilDude, negatory 06:06 < EvilDude> heh good i guess :P 06:07 < courtc> SDL though, could be another story entirely ;) 06:10 < EvilDude> hehe 06:15 < EvilDude> nintendo have made one of the stupidest decisions ever today :'( 06:16 < EvilDude> why would they do something like delay the only good game they have coming out, the game that eeryone awaits! 06:16 < Decipha> which is? 06:17 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:22 < EvilDude> Zelda! 06:22 < EvilDude> holy crap lots of new forum topics, we got a bunch of mizdawgers join or something? :P 06:23 < courtc> wait we have forums? 06:23 * courtc forgot about them 06:23 < EvilDude> heh :P 06:24 < courtc> They're just overflowing with useful, informational topics 06:24 < EvilDude> that they definately are =\ i think i'll stop checking them completely 06:25 -!- Davey- [n=infranat@d66-183-225-86.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:40 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:59 < EvilDude> man typing court is hard after talking to courtc on irc =\ 06:59 < EvilDude> about 3 times now i've typed courtc when i meant to type court! 06:59 < courtc> I do the same thing :/ 07:00 < EvilDude> haha 07:00 < EvilDude> thank god evildude isnt like any normal word :P 07:04 < knet> Well, I've succeeded in seeing that li'l folder with the exclamation mark 07:04 < knet> And that's with the firmware set to default to Apple 07:04 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has quit ["Client exiting"] 07:07 -!- Posty [i=Posty@c211-30-9-146.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:08 < Posty> hello? 07:13 < knet> I'm using the nightly build with my extracted Apple firmware and ipodloader-0.3.1 07:13 < knet> ./ipodloader-0.3.1/make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup 07:13 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:14 < knet> ./ipodloader-0.3.1/make_fw -o my_fw.bin -i apple_os.bin -l 2005-08-16-kernel.bin ./ipodloader-0.3.1/loader.bin 07:14 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:14 < knet> Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't that still boot the Apple firmware even if I completely stuff up the podzilla installation? 07:15 -!- Posty [i=Posty@c211-30-9-146.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 07:21 < courtc> you need to use the -3 flag, and make sure you are uing a cvs bootloader 07:28 < knet> DOH - I wasn't using the '-3 flag' 07:32 -!- RMC [n=RichardM@222-152-94-198.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:37 < knet> I know I saw the '-3' flag mentioned in some documentation at the site, but I can't find it again 07:39 < knet> Ah, found it in http://www.ipodlinux.org/2g_mini under 'What you need' 07:45 -!- HWhite [n=bah@ws10.kuusakoski.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 -!- HWhite [n=bah@ws10.kuusakoski.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:48 < knet> Any idea where I should start looking for the arm-elf cross toolchain? 07:48 < knet> (I've only managed to locate an arm toolchain for Palm development) 07:49 < Decipha> wiki 07:52 < knet> Found it searching for 'toolchain' 07:52 < knet> No luck for arm, or elf 07:57 -!- RMC [n=RichardM@222-152-94-198.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:24 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:26 < disident> hi all 09:09 -!- Izz^ [n=Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 09:21 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["m'en vais bye"] 09:26 -!- freddy [n=freddy@209-180-235-42.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 < freddy> hello 09:27 < freddy> i was wondering if there is still active devel 09:27 < freddy> development on the 4g ipods or if your going to close it down because of them being replaced and new ipod models oming out so fast 09:34 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-3-87-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 09:37 -!- freddy [n=freddy@209-180-235-42.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [] 09:39 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-35-99.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 09:53 < ballistix> did zsk write his matrix/credits thing? 10:30 -!- Dyne [i=Dyne@pool-70-110-177-144.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:31 < Dyne> Just wanted to congratulate everyone for all the work on the 2G Mini...It's turning out really good! Keep up the good work! :) 10:32 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:44 -!- Dyne [i=Dyne@pool-70-110-177-144.phil.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 10:58 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-210-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 11:05 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-3-87-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:22 -!- dystopianray [n=Raymond@203-217-5-109.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 < dystopianray> can somebody possily help me with downgrading my 20gb 4g color ipod firmware? 11:27 < dystopianray> I was able to downgrade from 1.2 to 1.1 successfully. I have the 2004-10-20 ipod updater for windows, but it claims to not support my ipod's hardware despite the fact that it is supposed to have the 1.0 firmware for the ipod photo :s 11:39 -!- faust333 [n=sdfsdfs@cpe.atm2-0-52242.0x50a01902.kjnxx3.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 11:40 < faust333> yes, hello 11:42 < faust333> I need help, 'cause I'm an idiot 11:42 -!- dystopianray [n=Raymond@203-217-5-109.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 11:53 -!- mapapp [n=mapappe3@cpe-24-193-74-35.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:58 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:03 -!- faust333 [n=sdfsdfs@cpe.atm2-0-52242.0x50a01902.kjnxx3.customer.tele.dk] has quit [] 12:06 -!- Decipha [n=sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [] 12:13 < mapapp> Question: How many versions of the ipod 4g firmware are there? How can I tell which version I have? I haven't upgraded to the latest version, but I don't know if I'm on the original. It's a 4g, 20gb ipod. 12:13 < disident> hi mapapp 12:15 < mapapp> Hi disident 12:15 < disident> uname -a in shell ;) 12:15 -!- v1p3r [n=v1p3r@host217-43-129-198.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:15 < disident> dunno ... 12:16 < mapapp> ok, I'll just make sure I back it up before installing. 12:18 -!- kink_02 [i=kink@d54C28FDE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:23 -!- kink_02 [i=kink@d54C28FDE.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 12:28 -!- dystopianray [n=dystopia@203-217-5-109.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:29 < dystopianray> the 1.0 ipod photo firmware does not work with the new 20GB color ipods :s 12:30 < dystopianray> isnt' the hardware the same though? I dont' understand why it does not work =/ 12:33 < dystopianray> I dd it over and all I get is the folder with the exclamation mark, 12:33 < dystopianray> but I can apply the 1.1 and 1.2 firmwares perfectly fine :( 12:46 -!- Ak-Gau1 [i=Ackergau@p54A85DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C5F3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:50 -!- mapapp [n=mapappe3@cpe-24-193-74-35.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 12:51 -!- Ak-Gau1 [i=Ackergau@p54A85DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 13:08 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 13:34 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit ["..."] 13:36 -!- dystopianray [n=dystopia@203-217-5-109.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10.2 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 13:37 -!- garrett [n=garrett@130.57.22.69] has joined #ipodlinux 13:39 -!- Chahk [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:00 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:10 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 14:11 < Appelmoes> aegray: tried it already? 14:17 -!- v1p3r [n=v1p3r@host217-43-129-198.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 14:21 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 14:33 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@dial10205.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:00 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@dial10205.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:01 -!- [1]Hollis [n=Hollis@dblt-aa454.gtcom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 -!- Hollis_Jamison|S [n=Hollis@dblt-aa454.gtcom.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:39 -!- Pokeon [i=Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:42 < aegray> wha? 15:43 < aegray> tried "it" already.... 15:43 < aegray> hmm 15:44 < Appelmoes> mac os x ? 15:44 < Appelmoes> :) 15:44 < aegray> oh no 15:44 < aegray> i'm so lazy 15:44 < aegray> and my download failed 15:44 < Appelmoes> oh it did? 15:45 < aegray> yea at like 90% 15:45 < Appelmoes> well I am installing it right now 15:45 < aegray> so i gave up :( 15:45 < aegray> cool 15:45 < aegray> tell me how it is 15:45 < Appelmoes> well its dirty you have to install it with pearpc and then modify it with darwin 15:45 < Appelmoes> had a bit of trouble with converting it to iso 15:46 < Appelmoes> no free software for converting that 15:46 < Appelmoes> so had to make my hands dirty again :p 15:46 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 < aegray> yuck 15:47 < aegray> iplbot is down for about a day... 15:48 < Appelmoes> oh 15:52 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcc08.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:58 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:59 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 16:06 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 -!- iplbot [n=iplbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:39 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ADijon-152-1-6-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 16:39 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcc08.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:42 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 16:43 < Subdino> Hi. I'm considering buying a 20GB color ipod (so 4th generation I guess) and I would like to make sure I don't forgot anything : are the default (ie bundled with the ipod) cables enough to connect the ipod with a computer, charge the battery, listen to music but also record music on the ipod ? 16:43 < aegray> record music? 16:43 < aegray> as in a microphone? 16:44 < Subdino> I found on the forum references to a "line in" (stereo) and I only find references to "mic in" (mono) on apple website 16:44 < Subdino> both if possible 16:44 < Subdino> (microphone & line in) 16:44 < aegray> you cannot record on a 20GB color ipod 16:44 < aegray> (yet) 16:44 < aegray> but everything else is packaged 16:45 < Subdino> "yet" ? technicaly possible but not yet implemented in firmware/ipodlinux ? 16:45 < aegray> it will not be implemented in the apple firmware without buying extra accessories 16:45 < aegray> and it is not yet implemented in ipodlinux 16:46 < aegray> but is getting there in ipodlinux 16:48 < Subdino> ok thanks for your answers, and good luck in the remaining stages to get the 4G supported :) 16:48 < aegray> thanks 17:00 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 17:03 < Subdino> as far as I can see, there is no way to type no the ipod itself. couldn't the sensitive wheel - where present - be used as a char selector ? 17:03 < aegray> yes 17:03 < aegray> there is atext input patch available 17:05 -!- _matt_ [n=matt@ACBC50FE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:15 < Subdino> haha, I just read the "squeek-dump" story.. I like that kind of hacking :) 17:30 -!- josh__ [n=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:30 -!- josh_ [n=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:32 -!- davidc__ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 17:33 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 17:53 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 17:59 -!- Raim [n=Raim@dial10005.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 -!- Izz^ [n=Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:04 -!- Izz^ [n=Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 18:07 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcc08.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:10 -!- Raim- [i=Raim2@dial10262.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- Raim_ [i=Raim@dial10357.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 18:28 -!- Raim [n=Raim@dial10005.odn.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:32 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-a0bfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:34 -!- Raim- [i=Raim2@dial10262.odn.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:47 -!- Raim_ [i=Raim@dial10357.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:21 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-34-75.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit [Client Quit] 19:26 -!- davidc__ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 19:26 < davidc__> ay all 19:34 -!- [1]Hollis is now known as Hollis_Jamison 19:35 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fcc08.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [] 19:35 -!- leachbj [n=leachbj@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/leachbj] has joined #ipodlinux 19:35 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:38 < macpod> I hear pthreads suck, but how bad and why particularly? 19:38 -!- Ak-Gau1 [i=Ackergau@p54A85DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 < Ak-Gau1> hi, i want to change the bootlogo of my ipod... i saw an article a few weeks ago but i canīt find it anymore... could anyone help me? 19:41 < aegray> aweful 19:42 < Ak-Gau1> very 19:43 < aegray> aweful to pthread 19:43 < aegray> change bootlogo -> 19:43 < aegray> hold on 19:44 < Ak-Gau1> ah, sorry 19:44 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Changing_Bootloader_Image 19:45 < Ak-Gau1> thx, i will try :) 19:51 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:54 < Subdino> is the "serial" part of the dock coector a standard rs232 ? 19:55 < Subdino> if so, it should be easy to wire some outlet and expand the ipod trough it, I'm thinking about a keyboard 19:55 < Subdino> (or maybe IrDA) 19:57 < leachbj> its not rs232 since it uses TTL levels not rs232 but its otherwise compatible 19:57 < leachbj> someone wrote a driver for the ericsson chatboard for the 3g 19:59 < Ak-Gau1> so i connect my ipod and type: f:\ipod\xpm2ipod.exe $ xpm2ipod ipod_boot.xpm, right? 20:03 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 20:10 -!- Wengero [n=wengero@modemcable205.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 -!- laptophobo [i=A@S0106000f66ac3a06.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 < laptophobo> hi 20:16 < laptophobo> everyone :D 20:16 < laptophobo> o_o 20:16 < laptophobo> anyone here? 20:16 < laptophobo> .... 20:16 < laptophobo> o well, i;ll come by l8r 20:16 -!- laptophobo [i=A@S0106000f66ac3a06.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:28 -!- Ak-Gau1 [i=Ackergau@p54A85DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:29 -!- crashd [i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@dial10046.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 -!- Marlon [n=marlon@c-a0bfe253.024-87-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 -!- Wengero [n=wengero@modemcable205.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:01 -!- tonya [i=tonya@host-84-222-172-83.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ipodlinux 21:03 < tonya> hi, someone knows all the installation steps for doom on ipod mini 2g? 21:04 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:04 < Hollis_Jamison> Doom doesn't exactly play on Non-Photo iPo 21:04 < Hollis_Jamison> dds&* 21:05 < tonya> cause the b/w screen and resolution isn't it? 21:05 < Hollis_Jamison> Among other things 21:05 < tonya> ok, thanks 21:07 -!- tonya [i=tonya@host-84-222-172-83.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has quit [] 21:08 -!- Izz^ [n=Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:08 -!- thick_ [n=thick@dsl-48-79.che.centurytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 < gop2> wtf this mean 21:21 < gop2> ""IBM has taken the next logical extension of booting Linux from a flash drive. Researchers were recently able to boot Knoppix from an iPod and run an x86 virtual machine in VMware, which provided an easy way to encrypt the whole operating environment. The tests were conducted on a 60GB iPod photo using Knoppix." 21:21 -!- _matt_ [n=matt@ACBC50FE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:27 < aegray> read about soulpad 21:29 -!- Subdino [n=vincent@ADijon-152-1-6-93.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Zzz"] 21:33 < gop2> what is soulpad 21:33 -!- veteran [n=veteran@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < leachbj> http://www.research.ibm.com/WearableComputing/SoulPad/soulpad.html 21:33 < leachbj> #ipodlinux, we're the next google!! 21:34 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [n=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:34 < gop2> hmm lol 21:35 < gop2> should I return my ipod mini for a 30 gig ipod 21:35 < gop2> or get a laptop hmm 21:35 < gop2> I see this laptop for sell 21:35 < gop2> http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Acer-Aspire-Notebook-PC-5002WLMI-/sem/rpsm/oid/127526/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do 21:36 < veteran> 5 minutes of battery life... impressive. 21:36 < gop2> oh 21:36 < gop2> that is bad 21:38 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [i=FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:38 < gop2> k I will return my ipod, will the store accept my ipod, even tough I can't my white headphones 21:39 < leachbj> hang on i'll just go get my crystal ball... 21:45 < Hollis_Jamison> Xbox360 prices released today 21:46 -!- Chahk [n=Chahk@rrcs-24-39-145-142.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:25 -!- CIA-11 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:26 -!- CIA-6 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088C1AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:40 -!- CIA-11 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 22:41 -!- CIA-6 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:45 < gop2> are dell laptops any good 22:45 < gop2> Hollis_Jamison what the price 22:52 < boza111> yea dell laptops are really good ? 22:52 < boza111> ! * 22:52 < boza111> what kind of laptop do you need ? more performance . or more mobility 23:11 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 23:11 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:12 -!- dsh-1 [n=daishi@ool-18bfd62b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:14 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 23:17 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:21 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:26 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:38 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:47 < Hollis_Jamison> 299 for a "Core System" (Wireless Remote + Xbox 360) 23:47 < Hollis_Jamison> 399 for the full system (Core System + Wireless Controler, Hard Drive, Wireless Xbox Live Headset) 23:48 < Hollis_Jamison> Core system has a wired controler** 23:48 < veteran> is it an ipod? 23:48 < Hollis_Jamison> No lol 23:48 < veteran> does it run linux? 23:48 < Daishi> probably 23:48 -!- Hollis_Jamison [n=Hollis@dblt-aa454.gtcom.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:48 < veteran> does it beling in # _ipod_ _linux_? 23:49 < jedix> well it doesn't belong here, but beling.. I dunno 23:49 < Daishi> but remember youre still giving money to microsoft and the only ones who seem good at making consoles are sony and nintendo and nintendo cant make controllers for shit 23:50 < Daishi> a sony controller can last through years of poor treatment even a fairly treated nintendo controller breaks in a year 23:56 < Daishi> <3 ps2 23:56 < Daishi> ps2 > gamecube > dreamcast (only cause sega screwed up) > xbox 23:57 < Daishi> im bored 23:57 < petemc> xboxes rock 23:58 < Daishi> i dislike the xbox and wish they ported halo to ps2 23:58 < jedix> I like girls. 23:58 < jedix> (I felt left out) 23:58 < Daishi> me too 23:59 < jedix> ported halo, that's funny. 23:59 < jedix> it was supposed to be released on all three at the same time, then ms bought the company --- Log closed Thu Aug 18 00:00:00 2005