--- Log opened Thu Aug 11 00:00:01 2005 00:05 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:16 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.53=-"] 00:29 -!- lmx [i=LMX@h143n5c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["bye"] 00:31 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:31 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray 00:36 -!- Flappz [n=Flappz53@68-186-129-127.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:36 < Flappz> how many IPOD LOOZERS IN HERE!?!?!? 00:37 < Flappz> no? 00:37 < Flappz> Mome? 00:37 < Flappz> none* 00:37 < Flappz> helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 00:38 < aegray> shutup 00:38 < Flappz> HI! 00:38 < aegray> hello 00:38 < Flappz> nobody really responds in here eh 00:38 < aegray> no they do 00:38 < Luke> we just ignore annoying people 00:38 < aegray> hehe 00:38 < Flappz> i wa being sarcastic sorry peeps 00:38 < Luke> np 00:39 < Flappz> got an annoying Q, i hope nobody gets mad for me askin 00:39 < aegray> we will 00:39 < aegray> don't worry 00:39 < Flappz> LOL 00:39 < Flappz> has anyone got a working 4G yet? 00:39 < Flappz> not 100% 00:39 < Flappz> but working 00:39 < aegray> read the wiki 00:39 < aegray> and yes 00:40 < Flappz> well i have been looking I see it working, but I was just wondering if others beesides the programmers 00:40 < aegray> yes 00:40 < aegray> there's a 4g installer 00:40 < aegray> that is unsupported 00:40 < aegray> where is iplbot damnit 00:41 < Flappz> what is that? 00:41 < aegray> iplbot answers questions for us 00:41 < aegray> but its not here 00:41 < Flappz> heres another annoyin question 00:41 < aegray> no 00:41 < aegray> erm.. 00:41 < aegray> ok 00:42 < Flappz> is it possible to get Images on the 1-4G not color? 00:42 < Flappz> like grey scale 00:42 < aegray> yes 00:42 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 00:42 < Flappz> i havent seen that 00:42 < aegray> its in podzilla 00:42 < Flappz> I have been waiting for a stable version, I seen since I have last looked there are more games 00:45 < Flappz> excuse me....? 00:45 < aegray> hmm? 00:45 < Flappz> I cannot find the installer im lookin for it 00:45 < Flappz> i found the install page 00:45 < aegray> google: ipodlinux+searchterm 00:46 < Flappz> found it 00:46 < Flappz> ipodlinux.org 00:47 < admiralfrijole> aegray: what happened to iplbot? 00:47 < Flappz> alright downloading and getting the ipod ready 00:47 < aegray> josh_'s server isn't up? 00:47 < aegray> i dunno 00:47 < Flappz> you guys need a server? 00:48 < Flappz> I have a large ftp server here not doin nothing.. 00:48 < aegray> naw 00:48 < aegray> so do we 00:48 < Luke> everyone and their brother has a server 00:48 < aegray> i know 00:48 < Luke> we are sponsored by a company 00:48 < Luke> we have professional hosting 00:48 < aegray> i'm sponsored by a government 00:48 < Luke> cuba 00:48 < Flappz> thats cool I was just asking, i have no reason for it I need an exuse to turn it on 00:48 < Flappz> cuba really 00:48 < Flappz> thats cool 00:49 < Flappz> do you live in cuba? 00:49 < aegray> yes 00:50 < aegray> fidel sponsors me 00:50 < Flappz> lol 00:50 < Flappz> why are you on twice? 00:50 < aegray> i am? 00:50 < mgla> aegray: 00:50 < mgla> hm? sry 00:50 < Flappz> aegray & aegray_ 00:51 < aegray_> ah 00:51 < aegray> i have a server running a client 00:51 < Flappz> ahhh 00:51 < aegray> so i can read scrollbacks 00:51 < aegray> because I'm a loser 00:51 < aegray> and i forgot to close it 00:52 < Flappz> im downloading the windows installer....if I am reading it right I have to copy something to the ipod? before running the installer? 00:52 < aegray> i'd say follow those directions 00:52 < aegray> because I'll just tell you something wrong 00:52 < Flappz> lol 00:52 < Flappz> i hope i am reading the correctly 00:54 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 < Flappz> oh i get it 00:55 < Flappz> everything but the installer goes on there 00:56 < Flappz> im still a linux newbies, even thought I have tons of linux books and flavors 00:57 < Flappz> oh shit it installed!!!!!! 00:58 < Flappz> it works stimpy! 00:58 < Prot> what do you put in the 'start' file to make apple firmware boot? 00:58 < Flappz> huh? I just used the installer and it works great 00:59 < Prot> HUH??! 01:00 < Flappz> i get a black screen after the verbose flies past the screen 01:00 < Flappz> is it supposed to do that 01:03 < aegray> maybe 01:03 < aegray> update kernel + podzilla 01:03 < aegray> look for how to install nightlies 01:05 < Flappz> whats the best os? 01:05 < Flappz> I think thats what i forgot to do 01:05 < aegray> the best os.... 01:05 < Prot> aegray, know what needs to go in start file to boot apple firmware? 01:05 < Flappz> yea theres a few different ones in the os.rar 01:05 < aegray> nothing into the start 01:05 < aegray> its what buttons you press 01:05 < Prot> oh 01:06 < Prot> I uninstalled linux with the uninstaller, now ipod doesnt boot. start file is missing 01:06 < Flappz> hold the left button as it restarts 01:06 < Prot> figured that was related 01:06 < Prot> guess I gotta reformat 01:07 < Flappz> shit 01:08 < Flappz> ]now i dont know how to load apple 01:08 < Prot> had to get rid of linux cause it was randomly booting 01:08 < Flappz> it is always going to linux 01:08 < Prot> didnt matter if I hit left or not. it would 50/50 boot to linux instead of apple 01:09 < Flappz> thats what mine is doin 01:10 < macpod> aegray do you have a firewire cable? 01:10 < aegray> well - i have a firewire cable but nothing to connect it to 01:11 < macpod> wallwort? 01:11 < aegray> waah 01:11 < macpod> I was just thinking this fw stuff might not work with the 4G 01:15 -!- Flappz534 [n=Flappz53@68-186-129-127.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:15 < Flappz534> im bak 01:15 < aegray> oh thank god 01:15 < aegray> i was worried 01:16 < Flappz534> i was trying to install again and my computer just ripped 01:16 < Flappz534> tripped* 01:16 -!- pbrook [N=paul@81-178-215-31.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:16 < Flappz534> it just died and rebooted 01:16 < Flappz534> FUKKIN WINDOWS 98 GET BILL GATES IN HERE! 01:16 < aegray> he's in here 01:16 < aegray> and learn to not use the capslock 01:16 < Flappz534> i was yelling 01:17 < Flappz534> whats the big deal with capslock people hate it 01:17 < Flappz534> whats the big deal? 01:17 < aegray> i dunno 01:17 < Flappz534> lol 01:18 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:18 < Flappz534> how do I know what version of linux i am installin on my ipod? 01:19 < aegray> only way is the about screen 01:19 < Flappz534> thers like 6 different os files 01:19 < aegray> os? 01:19 < Flappz534> do I have to put them all on my ipod or just the one I want? 01:20 < aegray> i dunno 01:20 < Flappz534> in the zip I downloaded there is 7 different files (including viPodzilla, and then a rar with them all zipped together 01:20 -!- Synapse- is now known as Synapse 01:20 < aegray> oh - put podzilla on your ipod root 01:20 < Flappz534> ok 01:21 < Flappz534> i put them all on there 01:21 < aegray> as long as one is named podzilla 01:21 < aegray> you're fine 01:21 < Flappz534> nope 01:21 < aegray> well rename one 01:21 < Flappz534> i have vipodzilla and mikpodzilla 01:21 < aegray> rename vipodzilla 01:21 -!- Synapse is now known as Synapse- 01:21 < aegray> to podzilla 01:21 < Flappz534> k 01:21 < Flappz534> uno momento homie 01:22 -!- Synapse- is now known as Synapse 01:24 < Flappz534> that time it fukkked my ipod 01:24 < Flappz534> I get the folder of death now 01:25 < aegray> try again 01:25 < Flappz534> i am 01:25 < Flappz534> nope 01:26 < Flappz534> uhok 01:26 < Flappz534> uhoh 01:26 -!- zsr- [n=zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:27 < Flappz534> it went to linux that time 01:27 < Flappz534> it says starting podzilla and then goes black 01:27 < Flappz534> any clue 01:28 < Flappz534> anyone else seen that? 01:28 < aegray> download a nightly 01:28 < aegray> did you install a nightly? 01:28 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vaffanculo 01:28 < Flappz534> how do i know if i did that??? 01:28 < Flappz534> im a moron 01:28 < aegray> look for how to install nightlies 01:28 < aegray> like I said before 01:28 -!- Flappz [n=Flappz53@68-186-129-127.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:29 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 < Flappz534> k 01:29 < Flappz534> http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer#How_to 01:29 < Flappz534> that is where i am at 01:30 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip24-251-0-137.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:30 < Flappz534> oy frikkin vey 01:31 < Flappz534> do I want a nightly build? 01:31 < Flappz534> the ZIP that I download has like 5 different builds i guess 01:31 < Flappz534> 2005-05-27-podzilla (or nightly build) 01:31 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip24-251-0-137.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 < aegray> get a nightly 01:32 < aegray> the latest is from 07-xx 01:32 < Flappz534> how do i find that 01:33 < aegray> look on the wiki - /builds/ or something 01:35 < Flappz534> the damn thing wont go into apple again 01:35 < aegray> hold in rewind 01:35 < aegray> or don't touch anything 01:35 < Flappz534> i am 01:35 < Flappz534> about 10 times 01:36 < aegray> and what happens if you touch nothing 01:36 < Flappz534> same thing, all the verbose goes flying by and then black screen again 01:36 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:37 -!- Vaffanculo is now known as Vanquisher 01:39 < aegray> have you downloaded and installed a nightly yet 01:39 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:40 -!- bonzi [n=bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 < Flappz534> no 01:42 < Flappz534> im looking for one 01:42 < Flappz534> havin hard time 01:44 < Flappz534> do me a fav please!!! 01:44 < Flappz534> :-< 01:45 < Flappz534> http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer ---Thats the webpage I am at, can you please please please tell me waht I am looking for 01:46 < BleuLlama> i know what you're looking for 01:47 < Flappz534> whats that? 01:47 < Flappz534> iall I get is a black screen 01:48 < BleuLlama> run 'software restore' from the cd that came with your ipod 01:48 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-138.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:48 < Flappz534> i just downloaded it 01:48 < Flappz534> i am right now 01:51 < Flappz534> FUDGE!!!! 01:51 < Flappz534> i cant get it to book into apple 01:52 < Flappz534> to even do the update 01:52 < BleuLlama> this is on the wiki, and since i'm telling you, this is the last support you get, for this unsupported thing you're doing.. 01:52 < BleuLlama> boot into disk mode 01:52 < Flappz534> i jut did 01:53 < BleuLlama> and it didn't boot into disk mode? 01:53 < Flappz534> its updating currrently 01:55 < Flappz534> done 01:55 < Flappz534> i also just got the newest podzilla and newest kernel 01:56 < BleuLlama> thank you for sharing 01:56 < Flappz534> damn relax 01:56 < Flappz534> im just askin for help not pity 01:57 < Flappz534> i knew how to do the update I just didnt want to loose my music 02:00 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-19-5.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:00 < Flappz534> whaat does wiki stand for? 02:00 < Flappz534> nevermind 02:03 < Flappz534> cls 02:04 < Luke> wiki isnt an acronym 02:06 < Flappz534> well shit 02:06 < aegray> BleuLlama = smart 02:06 < Flappz534> this time it went blank but the clicker works 02:06 < aegray> hold menu 02:07 < aegray> for a long time 02:07 < Flappz534> k 02:07 < Flappz534> lol 02:07 < Flappz534> nothing 02:08 < aegray> did you install a nighty? 02:08 < aegray> nightly* 02:08 < Flappz534> i went here 02:08 < Flappz534> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 02:08 < aegray> and... 02:08 < Flappz534> and got the newest podzilla 02:08 < Flappz534> i went from black screen to blank one 02:10 < Flappz534> ok wait a sec 02:10 < Flappz534> this is what I am looking for 02:10 < Flappz534> I got the newest kernel where do I put it 02:10 < Flappz534> this is the one i got 02:10 < Flappz534> 2005-08-10-kernel 02:10 < aegray> just wait for a release 02:11 < Flappz534> noooooooooooooooooooo 02:12 < Flappz534> I just need to know where to place the new kernel for a reinstall.... I am lookin in all the forums 02:12 < aegray> you don't *place* it anywhere 02:12 < aegray> there are directions for this on the wiki 02:12 < aegray> like I said an hour ago 02:12 < aegray> Windows Nightly Build installation 02:12 < Flappz534> what is the address for the wiki the one I thought I had didnt say nothing 02:13 < aegray> didn't say nothing... 02:13 < aegray> then you didn't look hard enough 02:13 < aegray> google 02:13 < aegray> windows nightly build installation ipodlinux 02:13 < aegray> hey look 02:13 < aegray> first result 02:14 < Flappz534> k 02:16 < Flappz534> the one at sourceforge.net (where it tells you to download)) are all old 02:21 < Flappz534> screw this noise 02:22 < Flappz534> tahts the spirit 02:22 < Flappz534> thats* 02:22 < aegray> . 02:22 < BleuLlama> : 02:22 < Flappz534> if i read it correctly 02:22 < aegray> . 02:22 < aegray> : 02:23 < BleuLlama> . 02:23 < Flappz534> im supposed to download the kernel rename it to linux and copy over the old one 02:23 < BleuLlama> . 02:23 < Flappz534> i do that and it goes to black again 02:23 < Flappz534> lol 02:23 < aegray> what gen ipod 02:23 < Flappz534> g4 02:23 < Flappz534> 40 gig 02:23 < aegray> grayscale? 02:23 < Flappz534> yea 02:24 < aegray> if you installed a nightly podzilla, you should be able to press and hold menu 02:24 * BleuLlama is thinking of a word that starts with a 'u' 02:24 < aegray> and it will fix it 02:24 < Flappz534> cant afford the color yet 02:24 < Flappz534> umbrella 02:24 < aegray> utter 02:24 < Flappz534> uber 02:25 < Flappz534> im trying to figure out that nightly thing 02:25 < Flappz534> its drivin me nuts 02:25 < Flappz534> nukkin futts 02:25 < BleuLlama> yeah. press and hold 'menu' with hold off. the backlight should come on, then he contrast should adjust itself 02:25 < Flappz534> so whats your guys favorite flav oflinux? 02:25 < BleuLlama> then you say "oh! that's what you meant!" like all of the other peopple that have the same problem 02:25 < aegray> ipodlinux 02:25 < aegray> obviously 02:25 < Flappz534> well IM A MORON! 02:25 < Flappz534> I HAVE TOLD YOU MANY A TIME2 nite 02:25 < aegray> don't state the obvious 02:26 < Flappz534> no no no 02:26 < Flappz534> its... 02:26 < aegray> it's* 02:26 < Flappz534> WELL THANKYOU CAPTIAN OBVIOUS! 02:26 < aegray> you'll be kicked if you continue to use caps 02:26 < Flappz534> well crapola 02:27 < Flappz534> by the way 02:27 < Flappz534> what was the word 02:28 < BleuLlama> unsupported 02:28 < Flappz534> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhSmart a$$ 02:29 < BleuLlama> dude. aegray is also 12, but he manages to be mature. learn from him. 02:29 < aegray> mature? 02:29 < BleuLlama> at least in here you are. 02:29 < aegray> ah ok 02:29 < Flappz534> i am 22 work my butt off and wish to realx when i get home, mature pffffffft only in the work place, my wife does not complain 02:30 * aegray seriously doubts Flappz534's story 02:30 < BleuLlama> back in a few. got to go put the tractor back in the barn... the morning dew can contribute to rust. :(* 02:30 < aegray> eep 02:30 < Flappz534> whys that/ 02:31 < Flappz534> ? 02:31 < aegray> what's your job? 02:31 < Flappz534> I am a CAD Operator and IT 02:32 < aegray> what programs do you use? 02:32 < Flappz534> Autocad 2005 for cad 02:32 < Flappz534> winXP 02:32 < aegray> what designs do you do 02:32 < aegray> what's the cad used for 02:32 < aegray> ? 02:33 < EvilDude> aegray still 12! 02:33 < Flappz534> I used to do HVAC systems but I jut got a new job last monthdesigning steel cabinets for phone /cable companies and what not 02:33 < aegray> its comin 02:33 < Flappz534> I desing in cad, then I send it to the CAM software where it goes to our CAM machines 02:34 * aegray still skeptical 02:34 < aegray> but doesn't care anymore 02:34 < Flappz534> damn 02:34 < Flappz534> he black screen went away now its just dark but when i rotate the the wheel letters show up lllll rrrrrrr 02:34 < Flappz534> lol 02:34 < aegray> you didn't install podzilla right 02:35 < aegray> repeat the whole process with the nightlys 02:35 < aegray> and there must be a "podzilla" file on your ipod root 02:35 < aegray> when you run the installer 02:35 < aegray> and reboot 02:36 < Flappz534> k im updating apple again 02:37 < Flappz534> wht linux do you use on yourpc? 02:37 < aegray> i use mandrake 02:37 < aegray> but i suck 02:37 < Flappz534> me to 02:37 < Flappz534> I use SuSE 02:38 < aegray> i used to but i hated it 02:38 < aegray> don't remember why 02:38 < Flappz534> just asking thats all 02:39 < Flappz534> didnt know if this was mostyl linux people or not 02:40 < Flappz534> huh 02:40 < Flappz534> weird 02:40 < Flappz534> this tinie it says 02:40 < Flappz534> command : podzilla 02:40 < Flappz534> bad command or file name exiting 02:41 < Flappz534> god i have the best luck 02:41 < admiralfrijole> did you install podzilla? :-p 02:42 < admiralfrijole> and all the folders onto your iPod? 02:42 < Flappz534> I copy eyerthing to the ipod 02:42 < Flappz534> then use the installer 02:43 < Flappz534> I dont click the updater check box 02:43 < Flappz534> and let it run itself 02:43 < Flappz534> anything Im missing? 02:43 < BleuLlama> yeah, that it's unsupported 02:43 < Flappz534> wow 02:43 < Flappz534> your a tool 02:43 < BleuLlama> not mine 02:43 < Flappz534> thats cuz yours is crap 02:44 < admiralfrijole> i have to admit, though, that usually one doesn't ask about stuff in a channel when its pretty clear that its not supported here 02:44 < Flappz534> well thanks for the help 2nite im gonna goto bed 02:44 < admiralfrijole> after all, this is a project channel, not a community one 02:44 < Flappz534> well I wish to try it 02:44 < admiralfrijole> better luck tomorrow 02:44 < Flappz534> what the heck am i supposed to do 02:45 < Flappz534> thank you 02:45 < admiralfrijole> the forums! :-p 02:45 < Flappz534> i did that 02:45 < Flappz534> those havent helped 02:45 < admiralfrijole> i managed to get it working with the howto in the wiki, step by step from the CLI 02:45 < Flappz534> aegrey has tried but still nothing either 02:45 < admiralfrijole> did my first checkout from CVS :-p 02:45 < Flappz534> cvs? 02:45 < Flappz534> tghe store? 02:45 < Flappz534> the* 02:45 < BleuLlama> who's the tool now? 02:46 < Flappz534> well good night none the less, ill bug you tomorrow 02:46 < Flappz534> it was a joke howdy 02:46 -!- Flappz534 [n=Flappz53@68-186-129-127.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [] 02:46 < BleuLlama> not if we ban you first! goodnight 02:46 < BleuLlama> bummer 02:47 < CIA-11> macpod * tools/podzilla/ (fw.c ChangeLog Makefile pz.c): 02:47 < CIA-11> Podzilla now asks if you want to reboot your iPod when there is FireWire 02:47 < CIA-11> connectivity for 1-3G iPods. 02:47 < BleuLlama> how is it that one person can follow the directions on the wiki, and it works perfectly, while another person, following the same directions, can't do shit? 02:47 < BleuLlama> nice, macpod 02:48 < macpod> It really is nothing. I copied aegrays code :P 02:48 < BleuLlama> nice, aegray 02:48 < macpod> It might work with later iPods too but I don't have one to test with 02:49 < macpod> If it does you could probably get it to boot directly into disk mode or whatever the usb junx does. 03:01 < aegray> macpod - is that for just firewire or any firewire power? 03:02 < macpod> any firewire power 03:02 < aegray> cool 03:02 < macpod> I was looking at your disk mode code and tried it 03:02 < aegray> it doesn't work on 2g mini 03:02 < aegray> i forgot to change it for that 03:02 < aegray> :/ 03:02 < macpod> My ipod did not reboot but when it did reboot I got the "ok to disconnect" screen and during the reboot I had disconnected the fw cable. 03:03 < macpod> Do you have a fw cable with to test it on later gens? By test I mean the code that is already there? 03:03 < aegray> i do - getting it to a computer with a real fw port is the hard part 03:03 < aegray> maybe next time I'm at my dad's place 03:04 < macpod> bah, walart it! 03:04 < aegray> i don't even know what that means! 03:04 < aegray> hehe 03:04 < macpod> You know that thing that plugs into the wall and then you plug the fw cable in to charge it? 03:04 < macpod> that is a walwart 03:05 < macpod> or.. something with a similar name :P 03:05 < aegray> ah ok 03:05 * aegray goes to find that 03:05 < macpod> wait 03:05 < aegray> hmm 03:05 < macpod> make sure you alter the code 03:05 < macpod> it has a check right now so it only works with 3G iPods and lower 03:05 < aegray> ah ok 03:06 < macpod> IIR the iPods ship with a usb cable standard now so it probably is not the biggest deal if it does not work with newer iPods 03:06 < aegray> true 03:06 < macpod> For usb currently.. what does it do when it boots into disk mode? 03:06 < macpod> do you reset the device and then it boots into it? 03:07 < aegray> no - it just reboots and goes straight to diskmode 03:07 < macpod> or does it go directly into disk mode and then after you disconnect it resets? 03:07 < aegray> doesn't reset after you disconnect 03:07 < aegray> afaik 03:07 < macpod> hmm 03:07 < aegray> but when you click ok, it reboots directly to diskmode 03:07 < macpod> well as I said, mine did not reset, but when I reset it manually it did boot into disk mode 03:08 < aegray> you copied my code 03:08 < macpod> I know 03:08 < macpod> exactly :D 03:08 < aegray> hold on 03:08 < aegray> outl(inl(0x60006004) | 0x4, 0x60006004); 03:08 < aegray> should be 03:09 < aegray> outl(inl(0xcf005030) | 0x4, 0xcf005030) for 3g and below 03:09 < macpod> ohh, that could help out nicely 03:09 < aegray> :) 03:09 < macpod> why not call the reboot function though? 03:09 < macpod> less code and it also ensures settings are saved? 03:09 < aegray> not sure - i guess you could do that 03:09 < macpod> I just might... 03:09 < aegray> i wasn't sure how the reboot worked 03:09 < aegray> if it was hard or soft 03:10 < aegray> i guess it must be hard 03:10 < aegray> so you can do that 03:10 < macpod> excellent. I need to watch family guy now.. but I'll mod it again. 03:10 * aegray watches family guy on his new phone 03:11 < EvilDude> sif not watch it on your iPod ;) 03:11 < aegray> phone has sound ;) 03:12 < EvilDude> you make the sound work for iPod :D 03:12 < aegray> no 03:12 < aegray> i'm so unmotivated ever since work ended 03:12 < aegray> :( 03:12 < EvilDude> !!! why! 03:12 < aegray> i dunno 03:13 < aegray> i guess when i'm not forced to program for 10 hours a day, i don't get my mind into it at night 03:13 < EvilDude> :( 03:13 < aegray> i know 03:13 < aegray> boo aegray 03:13 < EvilDude> hm do something you'd like 03:13 < EvilDude> eg gameboy :D? 03:13 < EvilDude> na no boo, you've done tons so doesnt matter what you dont do now :P 03:13 < admiralfrijole> or video compression? 03:13 < aegray> sound first 03:14 < aegray> EvilDude: even if i figure out sound - it probably won't work on a 3g :'( 03:14 < admiralfrijole> good plan 03:14 < EvilDude> aegray: too slow? 03:14 < aegray> i think 03:14 < admiralfrijole> oh oh... how about A/V out after that? :-p 03:14 < aegray> and i'm looking to use processor specific stuff 03:14 < aegray> thats done already 03:14 < admiralfrijole> really? 03:15 * admiralfrijole dances 03:15 < aegray> not for you 03:15 < aegray> or i'm lying 03:15 < aegray> one of the two 03:15 < aegray> you decide 03:15 < EvilDude> ah processor specific, :( ah well i'm gonna get a photo one day hopefully 03:15 < admiralfrijole> well yeah but still, i'm kinda guessing that if it is, it'll end up in cvs eventually, and i dont really care about when 03:15 < aegray> hehe true 03:15 < admiralfrijole> once the video gets there, i might make a portable video jukebox projector out of an old slide projector, a chopped-up iPod photo, and possibly a larger hard drive 03:16 < admiralfrijole> chopped-up in that the LCD will be seperated and used to project through 03:16 < EvilDude> hm i swear i've heard the pp5020 has a speaker on it or some bs :| 03:16 < aegray> hehe 03:16 < aegray> a speaker? 03:16 < EvilDude> hm if i remember 03:16 < aegray> wtf 03:16 < EvilDude> because there were people wondering if apple would enable it 03:16 < aegray> because a speaker on an ic would be worth it 03:16 < EvilDude> and other are like na they wouldn't coz iPod is closed 03:17 < EvilDude> but it cant be 03:17 < EvilDude> it's too small =\ 03:17 < EvilDude> i dont know why i even thought there'd be a speaker :| 03:17 < aegray> a speaker on a processor chip? 03:17 < aegray> what?? 03:17 < EvilDude> time to google 03:17 < EvilDude> yeah its fkd 03:17 -!- svens [n=svens@i3ED6E17E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:18 < EvilDude> On-Chip Bridge Tied Load Speaker Driver. Wolfson's 8970 series also includes a small but powerful on board speaker driver, capable of powering a fairly significant connected speaker. Apple's design of the new iPod’s casing, which lacks tiny holes to let audio come out of the iPod's plastic and metal shell, strongly suggests that this feature won't be utilized for more than just the standard iPod chip and click sounds. But again 03:18 < EvilDude> not the proc, but the sound card it seems 03:18 < EvilDude> sound thing* dont know what it actually is 03:18 < admiralfrijole> EvilDude: the correct answer is, as I have learned, "I'm sorry. I am a dumbass. Continue about your business like I was never here." 03:18 < aegray> *speaker driver* 03:18 < aegray> != speaker 03:18 < EvilDude> haha well what is it? 03:18 < EvilDude> coz they say 03:18 < EvilDude> click sounds. 03:18 < aegray> its a circuit that can drive a speaker 03:18 < admiralfrijole> you could just wire a speaker directly to it 03:18 < EvilDude> hm but thing is 03:18 < EvilDude> it produces click sounds :| 03:18 < admiralfrijole> like in the mighty mouse 03:19 < admiralfrijole> the ic "makes" the sounds, and transmits them over to the speaker, that plays them 03:19 < aegray> EvilDude: i don't think they know what they're talking about 03:19 < EvilDude> " lacks tiny holes to let audio come out of the iPod's plastic" 03:19 < aegray> the "click" doesn't come from the speaker 03:19 < EvilDude> hahaha yeah i think that's right 03:19 < EvilDude> yeah comes from piezo thing :D 03:19 < aegray> afaik 03:19 < EvilDude> yeah i think they have no idea 03:19 < EvilDude> but yeah ^THAT is why i thought there was a speaker :p 03:19 < EvilDude> blame ipodlounge 03:20 < aegray> haha 03:20 < admiralfrijole> bwahaha i now have Lord Kelvin desktop 03:20 < admiralfrijole> and he looks like he's about to kill someone, and has a long ass ZZ Top beard 03:20 < aegray> macpod: no go - i'm not even gonna try it - that hardware address is PP5002 specific 03:28 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.54.84] has joined #ipodlinux 03:28 -!- meatmanek [N=meatmane@cpe-65-26-182-222.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:33 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-19-5.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 03:43 < macpod> wao 03:43 < macpod> afk for a while what do you mean? 03:44 < macpod> oh for the firewire gpio? 03:44 < aegray> if thats what that is 03:44 < aegray> yea 03:44 < macpod> ok 03:48 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:52 -!- Syntax [n=vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:52 -!- Syntax [n=vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:54 * BleuLlama Podcast episode 7 has hit critical mass! 03:55 < macpod> speaking of podcasts, has libitunes been updated to support them? 03:56 < macpod> .. nope 04:00 < EvilDude> "Podcast" (a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar programme, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player) is now an official part of the English language, as the word has been included in the Oxford Dictionary. 04:00 < macpod> that is pathetic, yet hillarious 04:00 < meatmanek> hey 04:00 < meatmanek> google is a verb. 04:00 < macpod> I want guff to be in the dictionary. "That's alot of guff" 04:05 < aegray> NO 04:06 < macpod> iComa? 04:07 < aegray> that's already in there 04:08 < macpod> that would be a great easteregg 04:08 < macpod> hold down the menu button for 5 minutes to execute 04:08 < aegray> haha 04:08 < aegray> bern would kill us 04:09 < macpod> Meh, would not be too bad, just think what you could be in your next life! 04:17 < macpod> I think I'm just going to keep this to a reboot for now 04:17 < macpod> currently it reboots and goes into disk mode as expected, but it never comes out of it 04:17 < aegray> you have to hardreboot 04:17 < macpod> you get the ok to disconnect but then it just sits there 04:18 < macpod> bah, forget that 04:18 < macpod> I'll just have them reboot. I don't even know if they are connected to a comp after all.. 04:18 < macpod> Now.. for the next feature. The iPod turns off automatically if the battery gets too low. 04:19 < macpod> I'm tired of people leaving podzilla on till their battery dies then bitching about how their fs is corrupt. 04:19 < aegray> i have sleep mode code 04:19 < aegray> it's just not too stable on anything but 4g and photo 04:20 < macpod> but what if they are say.. playing a song 04:20 < aegray> and if i ever get off my lazy ass 04:20 < aegray> i'll do it 04:20 < aegray> it can account for that 04:20 < macpod> ok 04:21 < macpod> at least for now there should be something temporary.. even if it is a call in the 1 second timer thing that checks to see if it is say 20 or whatever battery level wise and turns the iPod off 04:21 < aegray> yea 04:21 < aegray> although - be careful 04:21 < aegray> because the battery is off a bit 04:21 < aegray> it naturally goes into suspend at like 50 (thats a guess) 04:22 < macpod> Alright, I'll code that in 04:22 < aegray> k 04:23 < macpod> hmm, should I have it reboot or "turn off" 04:23 < aegray> turn off 04:23 < aegray> although.. 04:23 < aegray> yea 04:23 < aegray> turn off 04:23 < macpod> If you did it the other way and the user has podzilla as default it would keep cycling and cause problems 04:23 < aegray> yep 04:23 < macpod> so turn off would be best. 04:23 < aegray> and for the ipods that don't work with it, it just reboots 04:23 < aegray> so it works 04:24 < macpod> which ones does it not work with? 04:24 < aegray> 1g+2g afaik 04:24 < macpod> I'll just check and not do anything if those iPods are detected. 04:24 < aegray> well - battery is always 520 on those 04:25 < aegray> so it doesn't even matter 04:25 < macpod> heh 04:25 < aegray> they should never reach that 04:25 < aegray> erm - 512 maybe 04:25 < aegray> one of the two 04:25 < macpod> 520 04:25 < macpod> mm manic depression 04:25 < aegray> cool i have an nes emulator on my phone now 04:25 < aegray> amen 04:26 < macpod> or chronic lazyness.. havent decided what I have :D 04:26 < aegray> i have both 04:26 < aegray> :)( 04:27 < aegray> if thats even a face 04:32 < macpod> whoops battery full is 512 04:33 < onglipo> anyone knows if i can power the ipod externally AND dock it; my battery is dead :( 04:33 -!- blake_ [n=blake@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:33 -!- veteran [n=blake@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:34 < macpod> with firewire you can 04:34 < onglipo> i mean will it blow my usb port? there seems to be some electronics on the battery 04:34 < onglipo> (i'd to rip open my photo; now i can access the 2 pin power port) 04:35 -!- blake_ [n=blake@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 04:36 < macpod> have you read about the dock connectors on the wiki? 04:36 < macpod> you would not have had to open your iPod 04:36 < onglipo> no- i've to replace the battery anyways 04:36 < onglipo> its dead 04:37 < onglipo> i've ordered a fresh one. by the time it reaches me here (india) it'll be 2 weeks 04:46 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@210-55-121-158.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 04:46 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.54.84] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:59 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A871D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 05:01 -!- sudiv10 [n=sudiv10@217.16.29.33] has quit [] 05:04 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.52.74] has joined #ipodlinux 05:04 -!- macpod [n=macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:09 -!- zer0python [n=zer0pyth@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit ["brb"] 05:14 -!- joeyk [i=1000@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 05:15 -!- joeyk is now known as zer0python 05:15 -!- zer0python [i=1000@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit [Client Quit] 05:15 -!- joeyk [i=1000@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 05:17 -!- joeyk [i=1000@unaffiliated/zer0python] has quit [Client Quit] 05:17 -!- zer0python [i=1000@unaffiliated/zer0python] has joined #ipodlinux 05:19 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.52.74] has quit ["bye!"] 05:25 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm63-166-39-237.buckeye-express.com] has quit [" Oh god I just changed my pw and instantly forgot it"] 05:26 -!- Bieh [n=paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 05:44 -!- JonasNZ [i=jbergler@unaffiliated/jonasnz] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:51 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-198-186.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 05:53 < ballistix> aegray: are you here? 05:56 < ballistix> any dev here? 05:59 < BleuLlama> http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/podcast Episode 7 is out! :D 06:00 -!- _tk_ [n=chaos@S0106000f66c402ea.ls.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:01 < _tk_> sup all, just wondering if there are any os's like podzilla or one of its offsprings that have color? for the ipod photos 06:03 < BleuLlama> 1. podzilla isn't an os 06:03 < BleuLlama> 2. podzilla has color 06:04 < _tk_> oh i though it refered to podzilla as an os for some reason on the site 06:06 < _tk_> sorry 06:12 -!- _tk_ [n=chaos@S0106000f66c402ea.ls.shawcable.net] has quit ["Chaos v3.2 - www.chaos.page.vu"] 06:13 < ballistix> bleullama: i made a beautiful Sony s2 colour scheme, and added colour to mp3.c ... can i add it to CVS? 06:13 < BleuLlama> send in the patch 06:13 < ballistix> ok cool 06:14 < ballistix> i was just checkin whether you would hate me for submitting something thats not exactly breakthrough stuff... 06:14 < BleuLlama> nah. everything contributed is cool. 06:15 < BleuLlama> can't promise that it'll go in, but it probably will 06:15 < BleuLlama> i still have a patch to integrate... 06:15 < ballistix> yeah 06:15 < BleuLlama> :/ 06:15 < BleuLlama> anyway... i gotta go to sleep 06:15 < BleuLlama> night all 06:15 < ballistix> should i put appearance.c and mp3.c in one patch? prob 2 right? 06:15 < ballistix> and appearance.h 06:16 < ballistix> yeah good nighr 06:16 < BleuLlama> generate the patch like the wiki page says, it should include all of the changes in all of the files 06:16 < ballistix> ok 06:16 < ballistix> thx 06:28 -!- crashd [i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:28 -!- Synapse_ [n=face@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 -!- Synapse [N=face@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:30 -!- bleuu [N=blew@stjhnf0121w-142163160110.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:30 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0121w-142163160110.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:33 -!- crashd [i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 06:36 -!- warter [n=warter@p549A871D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 06:37 -!- DavidRobinson [n=David@ip68-227-167-101.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 -!- timmy_isdaman [n=timmyisd@d207-216-20-119.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 -!- lgates [n=lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:39 < DavidRobinson> can anyone hook me up wiht a link to download an older firmware installer? 06:42 < DavidRobinson> errrr, nevermind 06:45 -!- DavidRobinson [n=David@ip68-227-167-101.om.om.cox.net] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different"] 06:46 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-198-186.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:50 -!- BrianGriffin [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:54 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-13-161-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 06:56 < ballistix> i just sent patches a patch to add colour to mp3.c and the sony s2 sports scheme 06:57 < ballistix> which is nice 06:59 -!- svens [n=svens@i3ED6E016.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 07:01 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10280.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 07:06 -!- BamaWOLF [n=poop@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:14 -!- svens [n=svens@i3ED6E016.versanet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:15 -!- svens [n=svens@i3ED6E016.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 07:20 -!- ballistix [n=ballisti@60-240-13-161-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:28 -!- Bieh [n=paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [] 07:29 -!- timmy_isdaman [n=timmyisd@d207-216-20-119.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:01 -!- Decipher [n=sgclark@CPE-61-9-139-242.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #iPodLinux 08:02 -!- Vinnymac [i=Vinnymac@ool-18b8ce3b.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.53=-"] 08:31 -!- Kingstone [i=Snape@80.179.204.26.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 08:31 < Kingstone> there is not way to put linux if i have june updater of apple? 08:31 < Kingstone> :( 08:31 < Kingstone> *no 08:32 < Kingstone> how can apple prevented the boot of linux? 08:33 < Raim> Kingstone: I suppose it is a different firmware and/or bootloader 08:36 < Kingstone> will the linux developers be able to overcome this? 08:36 < Kingstone> or they're not even thinking about trying..? 08:37 < Raim> dunno... :( 08:47 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:49 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:55 < Kingstone> aegray 08:55 < Kingstone> here? 08:58 -!- Wammy [i=Wammy@ppp-71-129-250-175.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:03 -!- Cippo [n=Cippo@ti521110a080-0619.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 09:06 -!- Synapse_ [n=face@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 09:07 -!- Synapse [n=face@c220-239-5-48.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:10 -!- SolidCore [n=SolidCor@solidcore.plus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:11 < Decipher> Anyone here? 09:12 * Synapse is 09:14 < Decipher> Don't suppose you know where the Microwindows Documentation is? 09:16 -!- Thijs [n=mathijs@cc15766-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 09:17 < Raim> Decipha: it's now the "Nano-X Window System" 09:17 < Raim> wrong nick... Decipher 09:19 -!- Decipher is now known as Decpha 09:20 < Decpha> Yeah, was just looking for details on the GrLoadImageFromFile stuff, but I've found some 09:33 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 < disident> hi all 09:41 -!- Kingstone [i=Snape@80.179.204.26.cable.012.net.il] has quit ["_/\__/\____/\______/\_________________ Jim, I think we lost him."] 09:41 < _KDE> Does someone have the files of nxdoom that have been changed for iPL? --- Log closed Thu Aug 11 09:48:35 2005 --- Log opened Thu Aug 11 09:48:39 2005 09:48 -!- _ipodstats [I=dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:56 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088D6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:56 < boza111> hi 09:56 < boza111> anyone here ? 09:58 < _KDE> n 09:59 < boza111> anyone tried to play doom on a 3g .lol ? 09:59 < _KDE> i tried on a 4g and it looks very ugly 10:00 -!- davidc__ [N=chatzill@142.179.110.30] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:00 -!- davidc___ [n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:00 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__ 10:01 < boza111> yea its slow and ugly on the 3g 10:01 < boza111> but i guess its probably ok on the ipod color 10:02 < boza111> how do i select stuff in the menu ? i want to try and reduce the resolutiom 10:03 < _KDE> menu 10:03 < _KDE> press menu 10:04 < boza111> oh i found it .. 10:05 < boza111> lol . how do i type in the cheat "iddqd" i still remember da cheat from back of the days 10:05 < _KDE> is it possible to reduce the resolution from the menu? 10:08 < boza111> well . i managed to go the screen size 10:08 < boza111> but i am not sure if it did anythinf 10:08 < boza111> oh by the way . Hold is the menu button . and left weel is enter 10:09 < boza111> you can try and see if it actually changes the screen size 10:09 < boza111> brb 10:18 -!- disident [n=sylvain@73.155.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["m'en vais bye"] 10:23 < boza111> lol . maybe you guys should get sponsored my doom (ID) or nintendo 10:23 < Decpha> BleuLlama here? or any other dev? 10:28 < _KDE> google for linux doom the first result is the ipl wiki page lol 10:29 -!- aegray__ [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:29 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 10:30 < koekie> hello 10:34 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:35 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 10:37 -!- _KDE [i=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:43 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:45 < boza111> hey KDE , the first page in google for me for Linux Doom is "http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/" 10:45 -!- Cippo [n=Cippo@ti521110a080-0619.bb.online.no] has quit ["Shutdown time"] 10:47 -!- Decpha [n=sgclark@CPE-61-9-139-242.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:50 < boza111> who ported doom ? damm this version looks so cool . Its like a straight port 10:54 < _KDE> boza111: you're right, when I google in windows, thats the first page, but when I google in linux then it's the ipl wiki page... 10:54 < boza111> oh haha , thats weird 10:55 < boza111> from the wiki the game looks really good (on ipodphoto ) 10:58 < boza111> hey . are we allowed to change stuff on the WIki ? like in the download sections some Statuses need to be changed 11:07 -!- onglipo [n=ong@203.101.52.74] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488A9E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 < onglipo> is bleu around? 11:11 < Jack_MD> aegray_: are you there? 11:11 -!- Raim [i=Raim@dial10280.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:12 -!- _KDE [i=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Booting Linux. :)"] 11:12 -!- mgla [n=mgla@p508C6A80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:18 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:20 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:22 < boza111> is anyone here :p 11:23 < boza111> i got a question . Why is the navigation on ipodlinux.org messed up . It doesnt have the forums, downloads links 11:25 < Synapse> boza111: No one is here. 11:25 < Synapse> all 50 of us are idling. 11:25 < boza111> ok . i am off too 11:25 < boza111> c ya 11:25 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088D6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:26 < Synapse> ... 11:26 < LMX> :> 11:27 * Synapse chalks another one in the "idiots" column 11:32 -!- _newbie_ [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:32 -!- _newbie_ is now known as _KDE 12:01 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:02 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488A9E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 12:03 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488A9E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:04 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-67-128.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 12:06 -!- EvilDude [i=EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-138.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:06 -!- Raim [n=Raim@dial10282.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 -!- LMX2 [n=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 -!- LMX [n=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:14 -!- bLeW [n=blew@stjhnf0121w-142163160110.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:23 -!- LMX2 is now known as lucaas 12:25 -!- Cippo [n=Cippo@ti521110a080-0619.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 12:31 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 12:31 < lucaas> i made some images and looked at them on my ipod, it worked well, but ist true grayscale, is it? 12:32 < lucaas> more like three colors, black, white and gray' 12:33 -!- Shadow [i=Sh_dowMa@cm60.sigma230.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 12:49 -!- v1p3r [n=v1p3r@host217-43-129-198.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:53 < hyarion> it's 4 colors 12:53 < hyarion> black white light gray and gray 12:56 < Thijs> correct 12:56 < Thijs> 2bit color 12:57 -!- Eduardo [n=chatzill@adaselws18.ece.uprm.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 12:58 < Eduardo> hello 12:58 < Jack_MD> hi 12:58 < Eduardo> i have a doubt with this iPod Linux 12:59 < Eduardo> can i compile java source code ? 12:59 < Eduardo> within it? 13:04 < lucaas> ok, so if i posterize it to four (grayscale) colors, it should work, right? 13:07 -!- Eduardo [n=chatzill@adaselws18.ece.uprm.edu] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 13:09 < hyarion> lucaas: yes 13:15 < aegray__> nick aegray 13:15 -!- aegray__ is now known as aegray 13:16 < lucaas> maybe i should try to make convert some video 13:17 -!- oxygen77 [i=nobody@yossman.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:18 < Shadow> hey can i check if 20gb ipod photo have contrast bug or n e sort? cuz the ipodlinux which use to work on the first batch of ipod photo doesnt seem to work on this new batch 13:26 -!- oxygen77 [i=nobody@yossman.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:33 -!- Cirex [n=bzackshe@69.177.181.138] has joined #ipodlinux 13:33 -!- Cirex [n=bzackshe@69.177.181.138] has quit [Client Quit] 13:38 < Jack_MD> aegray: are you there now? 13:58 < Thijs> hey... just a question 13:59 < Thijs> when i look at this page http://www.ipodlinux.org/Screenshots i see some logo different then the ipodlinux logo.. is that correct or ? 14:10 < aegray> yes 14:10 < Jack_MD> aegray: hi 14:10 < aegray> hi 14:10 < aegray> Thijs: that's the original tux 14:10 < Jack_MD> I have 2 problems 14:10 < aegray> what bern used on his first version afaik 14:10 < aegray> are they about video? 14:11 < Jack_MD> 1 is about video the other about doom 14:11 < Thijs> aegray: ah. :S strange 14:11 < aegray> k 14:12 < Jack_MD> about doom: on my 30gig photo the screen is rotated.. 14:12 < aegray> did you compile it yourself? 14:12 < Jack_MD> yep 14:12 < aegray> there's a variable in there somewhere - like flip screen or something 14:12 < Jack_MD> with the command you posted on the forums 14:12 < aegray> that tells it if you should rotate or not 14:12 < Jack_MD> ah!! thx 14:12 < aegray> yep 14:12 < Jack_MD> ok, then the other question 14:13 < Jack_MD> 3 weeks ago I told you, that the colors are screwed up, do you remember? 14:13 < aegray> yea 14:13 < Jack_MD> now I can take a photo of that 14:14 < aegray> k 14:14 < aegray> you have the most recent kernel and all? 14:14 < Jack_MD> oh... the kernel is 3 weeks old I think. 14:14 < aegray> get the latest one 14:14 < aegray> and latest podzilla 14:14 < aegray> then take photo 14:15 < Jack_MD> I have compiled podzilla by myself cause of doom 14:15 < Jack_MD> that's 2 days ago 14:15 < Jack_MD> is that ok? 14:15 < aegray> can't you just run doom from the filebrowser? 14:15 < Jack_MD> I followed the wiki, and yes I can 14:16 < aegray> do the sample videos look ok? 14:17 < Jack_MD> yeah, the samples are looking good, but the videos I convert on my own are screwed up 14:17 < aegray> and you're using mencoder? 14:18 < aegray> tell me the exact steps you went through. 14:18 < Jack_MD> yep, I've tried QuickTime too, but it was the same 14:18 < aegray> i'm gonna go make a bagel while you list them 14:18 < Jack_MD> bagel? 14:18 < aegray> bagle. 14:18 < aegray> whatever 14:19 < Jack_MD> whats that? 14:19 < aegray> food 14:19 < aegray> round thing with a hole in it 14:19 < aegray> like a donut 14:19 < aegray> but not sweet 14:19 < Jack_MD> :D ok 14:19 < aegray> list off everything you do to convert 14:19 < aegray> including any commands 14:19 < aegray> i'll be back 14:19 < Jack_MD> ok 14:20 < Jack_MD> cd /to/the/dir/where/the/video/is/in 14:21 < Jack_MD> mencoder -ovc raw -ofps 15 -nosound -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 hijack.mpg -o hijack.avi 14:21 < Jack_MD> then it converts 14:22 < Jack_MD> then I copy it onto my ipod per dragndrop 14:22 < Jack_MD> then I eject the ipod and it reboots 14:22 < Jack_MD> that's it 14:23 < Jack_MD> BTW: I'm using OSX 14:23 < aegray> hmm - maybe use rgb16? 14:26 < Jack_MD> tried that 3 weeks ago and that didn't work either 14:27 < Jack_MD> mh.. first I have to install the new kernel, pleas wait :D 14:30 < Shadow> hey aegray may i check wht does "If you are installing on an iPod Photo, neither 2bppconv nor cygwin is necessary." mean? 14:30 < Shadow> if i m putting on photo. i just need to use m player and thats it? 14:30 < aegray> yes 14:30 < aegray> follow directions - theres a specific line to use for the photo 14:31 < Appelmoes> hi aegray how's work? 14:31 < aegray> i'm done :) 14:31 < Appelmoes> ah me too :) 14:31 < aegray> isn't it great? 14:32 < Appelmoes> well, hehe not really now I have to learn for school :p 14:32 < aegray> i'd rather deal with school 14:32 < Appelmoes> idd 14:33 < Appelmoes> have you tried that mac os x on x86 thing 14:33 < Appelmoes> looks very nice 14:33 < Appelmoes> saw some movies yesterday of it, really smooth 14:34 < aegray> where do you get it 14:34 < aegray> ? 14:34 < Appelmoes> the movies ? 14:34 < aegray> no osx for x86 14:34 < Appelmoes> oh, torrent 14:35 < Appelmoes> well actually a friend downloaded it and put it on his allocated server 14:35 < Appelmoes> didn't download it yet 14:35 < aegray> cool 14:35 < Appelmoes> yeah my isp has these traffic limit 14:35 < aegray> have an address for me? 14:35 < aegray> :) 14:35 < Appelmoes> sure, pm 14:35 < aegray> k 14:37 < Shadow> hey aegray 14:37 < aegray> hi 14:37 < Shadow> how come i open the mplayer. it just close on me =/ 14:38 < aegray> its a command line app 14:38 < aegray> you have to run it with parameters 14:38 < aegray> its not something you just double click 14:38 < Shadow> so wht shd i do? 14:38 < Jack_MD> aegray, Appelmoes: OSXx86 doesn't run on every P4 System... you should test Darwin x86 before trying to download an illegal torrend :D 14:39 < aegray> darwin x86? 14:39 < Jack_MD> darwin is the unix core of OSX and it is free software 14:39 < Appelmoes> yes you need at least have sse2 support 14:40 < Appelmoes> and sse3 for the ppc bins 14:40 < Appelmoes> it runs on a amd64 hehe 14:40 < Jack_MD> and if darwin doens't run on your machine, osx won't either 14:40 < Jack_MD> ok, I have taken some pictures 14:41 < Shadow> hey aegray can u guide me on how to convert for a short while? 14:41 < Jack_MD> http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ thats about darwin 14:41 < aegray> Shadow: not really 14:41 < aegray> all i can tell you is whats on the video player page 14:41 < Appelmoes> well I am not planning on running mac os x as main os 14:41 < Appelmoes> just in vmware 14:41 < Appelmoes> for fun 14:41 < aegray> me too 14:41 < Appelmoes> I mean, ok its nice but no thanks 14:41 < Jack_MD> well, tell me if it runs please 14:42 < Appelmoes> I will, but I'll have to wait 5 days before I can, (isp traffic limits) 14:42 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: in my opinion its better than windows and it has a better looking gui than any opensource gui I think 14:42 < Shadow> hmm i just need to know how to let let the player close on me so i can convert the video 14:43 < Appelmoes> Jack_MD: yes but who is using windows these days? 14:43 < hyarion> you can't convert videos in mplayer 14:43 < Appelmoes> :p 14:43 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: too many people 14:43 < Shadow> i tot the website say can? 14:44 -!- rage [N=rage@ppp111-186.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:44 -!- garrett [n=garrett@130.57.22.69] has joined #ipodlinux 14:44 < Appelmoes> oh, I don't mind the windows users, they pay us, to clean up their mess, and by cleaning up I mean format and reinstall :p 14:44 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: yes, your completely right :D 14:45 < hyarion> shadow: you need mencoder to convert them 14:45 < Appelmoes> but ok, it would be nice if some of them started using a unix based OS 14:45 < Jack_MD> the main problem I see is, that most of the games run under Windows, but not under Linux/Mac OS X 14:45 < Shadow> hyarion: i have mencoder. how do i use it? 14:45 < aegray> open command prompt 14:45 -!- rage_ [n=rage@ppp111-186.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:45 < aegray> and run it from there 14:45 < aegray> by typing the command right in the right directory 14:46 < Appelmoes> yeah, ok I am not really the gamer anymore, but you are right, and sadly opengl support in vista seems very bad 14:46 < aegray> are you running vista? 14:46 < Appelmoes> they will emulate it with DD3 14:46 < Appelmoes> hell no 14:46 < Appelmoes> /. said so :p 14:46 < hyarion> it might just be in the beta 14:47 -!- aradarg [n=aradarg@port118.ds1-abs.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 < Appelmoes> don't no, but I don't think so 14:47 < aradarg> Greetings one and all! 14:47 < aegray> hello 14:47 < Appelmoes> it's a microsoft thing you know, ooh here's a open standard, lets destroy it 14:47 < Jack_MD> there is a windows vista worm, but vista is not released yet... thats luckx 14:47 < Jack_MD> *lucky 14:48 < Appelmoes> odd that micosoft didn't make their own RSS-like thing 14:48 < aradarg> Today I discovered iPodLinux for the first time (a shame I did not before), but well, here is my problem. :) I am going to install it, but I have some difficulties with the firmware. Anyone help me? 14:49 < hyarion> what gen? 14:49 < Jack_MD> aradarg: what's your problem? 14:49 < aradarg> I am using Windows at the very moment and for one reason only: Rescource Hacker :) 14:49 < hyarion> *which 14:49 < Appelmoes> aradarg: well use the windows installer 14:50 < hyarion> aradarg: 4g? photo? oldschool 1-3g? 14:50 < Jack_MD> aegray: How can I send you the pictures 14:50 < aegray> can you put them on a server? 14:50 < aegray> or upload to wiki 14:50 < Shadow> Aegray: i faild. but can u send me a video to try? 14:50 < Jack_MD> I have a http serveravailable (thx to phyntos) 14:50 < aradarg> Jack_MD: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Firmware - I want to know how to change and what to change? I am not into this part. :) 14:50 < aegray> there are videos on the wiki to try 14:50 < Appelmoes> oh, aegray let me know if you have installed it succesfull ;) 14:50 < aegray> Appelmoes: probably won't get a chance for a bit 14:50 < Shadow> wiki where? 14:51 < aegray> but i'll tell you 14:51 < aegray> www.ipodlinux.org 14:51 < Appelmoes> k 14:51 < Appelmoes> well you'll see 14:51 < aegray> weird - ducky rolled back changes he made to iboy 14:51 < Shadow> yea i know the website. but its on the first page? 14:52 < aegray> no its on the video player page - the page which tells you about all this stuff 14:53 < Appelmoes> I guess I'll have to write a manual howto-read-ipodlinux-site ;) 14:53 < aegray> haha 14:53 < Jack_MD> hehe 14:53 < Prot> I'll write the how to read the manual manual 14:54 < Shadow> hmm the files are in tgz. how to i use them? 14:54 < Appelmoes> by clicking on the link we mean, you move your mouse on the blue underlined text and press the left button on your mouse 14:54 < Appelmoes> the mouse is the thing you hold in your hands to move the cursor on your screen ;) 14:54 < Jack_MD> aegray: shall I write a php file to list the content of the folder or what? 14:55 < aegray> sure 14:56 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-11-177.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:59 < aradarg> Anyone got some time to help a newbie at iPodLinux out here? :) 15:00 < aegray> follow the website directions 15:00 < aegray> the firmware page you are looking at is for developers mainly 15:01 < aegray> follow the "how to install" directions 15:01 < aradarg> Ahh, it is? Thanks! :) 15:02 < aradarg> I should use Linux to install iPodLinux, right? 15:04 -!- aradarg [n=aradarg@port118.ds1-abs.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:05 < Jack_MD> aegray: http://www.schaeben.info/ipod/jackmd/ipl/ 15:06 < BleuLlama> oh... OH!!! *That's* how you click on a link!!!! 15:06 < BleuLlama> The web makes so much more sense now! 15:06 < BleuLlama> :D 15:06 < Appelmoes> hehe 15:06 < Jack_MD> mh? 15:07 < Jack_MD> well... ok, the pictures are a bit too big.. but I think now he can better see what I mean :D 15:08 < Jack_MD> mh.. I'm hungry... 15:08 * Jack_MD searching for food 15:08 < Appelmoes> Jack_MD: is that ipod not a bit broken? 15:09 < BleuLlama> interesting. room-temperature mountain dew > refrigerated flat mountain dew 15:09 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-11-177.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 15:09 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: why? 15:09 < Appelmoes> the funny colors on the screen :p 15:09 * Jack_MD found some cookies 15:10 < Appelmoes> hmm cookies :) 15:10 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: the funny colors should be a video.. 15:11 < Jack_MD> hijack.mpeg converted to hijack.avi 15:12 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-11-177.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:12 < Appelmoes> oh :) 15:13 < Appelmoes> what firmware do you have ? 15:13 -!- Serer0ku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd317.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:13 -!- Serer0ku is now known as Sereroku 15:13 < Jack_MD> latest photo firmware 15:14 < Appelmoes> hmz, don't know if that was fixed with the latest wasn't there some warning on the cvs page about that 15:14 < Appelmoes> or the wiki 15:14 < Jack_MD> oh.. ok, Ill take a look at cvs 15:15 < Appelmoes> I am not sure 15:15 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 15:15 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 15:15 < Jack_MD> BTW: Appelmoes, where do you live? german? 15:15 < Jack_MD> +y 15:15 < Appelmoes> belgium 15:15 < Jack_MD> ah, ok 15:15 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 15:15 < _KDE> jack_md: you german? 15:16 < Jack_MD> yep 15:16 * _KDE too 15:16 < Jack_MD> cool 15:16 < _KDE> where do you live in D? 15:16 < Jack_MD> _KDE: where in germany? 15:16 < koekie> i need the source code of the loader exec in the ipodloader src 15:16 -!- aradarg [n=aradarg@port118.ds1-abs.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 < Jack_MD> Niedersachsen 15:16 < _KDE> ah 15:16 * _KDE <-- Bayern 15:17 < Appelmoes> ah jack 15:17 < Appelmoes> check the 4th generation page 15:17 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: th 15:17 < Appelmoes> on the buttom 15:17 < Jack_MD> x 15:18 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:18 < aradarg> Greetings and salutations once again. 15:18 < Z_Man> i fixed my 2G !!!! 15:18 < Z_Man> yaay 15:19 < Jack_MD> hey aradarg, excuse me please... I saw you privmsg too late 15:19 < Appelmoes> hooray 15:19 < aradarg> Jack_MD: That's alright. :) 15:19 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: I thought the problem was solved (wiki-4g) 15:20 < Appelmoes> could be 15:20 < aradarg> Jack_MD: Anyway, I suppose it's easier to do the installation in Linux? Currently I borrowed another computer with Fedora. But I have some problems connecting to my iPod. Any suggestions? 15:20 < Appelmoes> latest kernel ? 15:20 < Jack_MD> yep 15:20 < Appelmoes> aradarg: usb_storage 15:20 < Appelmoes> load the module 15:21 < Appelmoes> if it is a module 15:21 < Appelmoes> otherwise check your kernel :) 15:22 < aradarg> Appelmoes: Thanks! But I am not into the hardware/Linux-thing. :P Usb_storage? 15:22 < Appelmoes> try as root, lsmod 15:22 < Appelmoes> and modprobe -l | grep usb_storage 15:23 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: you're talking to a linux b00n 15:23 < Appelmoes> if you don't find it in lsmod and you find it with modprobe -l 15:23 < Appelmoes> you can load it 15:23 < aradarg> Appelmoes: Neither the pipe nor the first program did work. 15:23 < Appelmoes> I won't teach you how to operate the whole linux OS you know :p 15:24 < Jack_MD> :D 15:24 < Jack_MD> hehe 15:24 < Appelmoes> but it's fedorah right? 15:24 < aradarg> At the very moment, yes. 15:24 < Appelmoes> try rebooting with the ipod connected 15:24 < aradarg> Did that already. 15:24 < Appelmoes> hmz 15:24 < Jack_MD> have an idea 15:25 < Jack_MD> try as root: cat /etc/modules 15:25 -!- Shadow [i=Sh_dowMa@cm60.sigma230.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:25 < Jack_MD> and then look if there is something like usb_storage 15:25 < aradarg> Nothing. 15:25 < Jack_MD> nothing? 15:25 < Jack_MD> file not found? 15:25 < aradarg> Nope. Ye, know, nothing found. 15:25 < Jack_MD> is the file empty? 15:25 < aradarg> Nope. No such file or dir. 15:26 < Appelmoes> Jack_MD: lsmod should show him the loaded modules and modprobe -l the avaible ones 15:26 < aradarg> None of the programs work. 15:26 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: yes, but if modutils is not installed? 15:26 < aradarg> And the file is not there. 15:26 < Appelmoes> yes but I don't have that file either 15:27 < Jack_MD> mh.. 15:27 < Appelmoes> because I am using other distro 15:27 < Jack_MD> ok, then it was in proc i think 15:27 < aradarg> modutils? How to install? (sorry asking so much) 15:27 < Appelmoes> oh, install, hmz, fedorah package installer or something 15:27 < Appelmoes> check the menus :p 15:28 < Appelmoes> have you tried lsmod command as root ? 15:29 < Jack_MD> Appelmoes: if you are not root and try to use it, then permission denied should be printed out 15:29 < aradarg> Yes. 15:29 < Appelmoes> ah no, lsmod works with user rights too 15:29 < Appelmoes> my mistake 15:29 < aradarg> Hehe. 15:31 -!- Raim- [i=Raim@dial10346.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:33 -!- Kurcz [n=jeff@d57-19-5.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:34 < aradarg> Hehe, found it: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/modutils-2.4.21-23.src.rpm - but it seems like, it has been deleted? 15:36 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #iPodLinux ["Leaving"] 15:44 -!- Big_Luk [N=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:46 < aradarg> Found some modprobe-files. 15:48 < aradarg> Appelmoes: Found the modprobe (/sbin/modprobe). But nothing happens with the grep-pipe. 15:49 < Appelmoes> means you don't have the module 15:49 -!- trackdork [n=peter@66.203.70.59] has joined #iPodLinux 15:49 < aradarg> Ahh. What now then? :P 15:52 < Jack_MD> a question: is there anybody out there who wants to compile podzilla for X(11) with my script? Linux, Mac OS X and Cygwin 15:52 < Appelmoes> you should google on fedorah and ipod problem 15:52 < Appelmoes> :) 15:53 < trackdork> okay, so i know i'm not supposed to ask, but i'm trying to revert to old firmware on my 4G iPod Photo so i can get the linux install to work... i know it's possible, but can't find the 'old' firmware out there 15:54 < trackdork> any ideas? 15:55 -!- Raim [n=Raim@dial10282.odn.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:55 < trackdork> or should i keep quiet back away slowly so as not to cause any further ruckus? ;) 15:56 < BleuLlama> track: your ipod came with a cd. 15:56 < trackdork> yeah... it's the latest version 15:57 < trackdork> i just bought it last week 15:57 < BleuLlama> okay. three things 15:57 < BleuLlama> there's no such thing as a "4g photo" 15:57 < BleuLlama> the current firmware does work with the nightly/daily builds 15:57 < BleuLlama> it's unsupported. you're on your own from here. thank you. 15:58 < BleuLlama> i couldn't remember my third point, so i figured i'd reiterate the obvious 15:58 < trackdork> lol. i read ya. thanks for the response 15:59 < trackdork> i get the whole 'unsupported' thing... i just thought you all might have advice on firmware... not linux installs. i'm pretty savvy as far as all that goes, and i woulnd't dare ask for help on unsupported sw 16:00 < BleuLlama> the latest color ipod firmware *does* work with ipl. 16:02 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 16:02 -!- Big_Luk [n=lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 16:02 < trackdork> aha. then i'll go off and kick it around some more. i just read that the iPod update for june26 will NOT work with ipl 16:03 < BleuLlama> where'd you read that? url? 16:04 -!- courtc [n=court@adsl-33-131-149.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:04 < trackdork> http://www.ipodlinux.org/4g @ bottom... right before it tells me not to do what i'm doing now :-/ 16:05 -!- danalien [N=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05 < BleuLlama> yeah. that's been fixed since that page 16:05 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-33-131-149.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 -!- courtc_ [n=court@adsl-33-131-149.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05 < trackdork> oh. awesome. 16:05 -!- danalien [n=danalien@unaffiliated/danalien] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 < BleuLlama> good catch though. not many people will really read the wiki. cheers to you. :) 16:06 < trackdork> i'm a hacker at heart... hardware engineer by schooling, and always willing to read before asking 16:06 -!- A-K [n=mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp176854.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 16:06 < trackdork> i wish i had the skills to help out more on this project 16:06 < BleuLlama> start learning. 16:07 < trackdork> i assume you're involved? 16:07 < aegray> he's married 16:07 < BleuLlama> that's really what the project is all about... (and all linux projects, really, imo) 16:07 < aegray> yes 16:07 < BleuLlama> yeah. i'm involved. 16:07 * BleuLlama happily involved 16:07 < trackdork> lol... 16:07 < BleuLlama> sorry 16:08 < trackdork> not that kind of involved aegray 16:08 < BleuLlama> i think aegray is single... although he's jailbait 16:08 < koekie> i need the source code of the loader exec in the ipodloader src 16:08 < BleuLlama> get it from cvs 16:08 < koekie> anyone knows where to find it ? 16:08 < aegray> cvs 16:08 < BleuLlama> or rather, via cvs 16:08 < koekie> no it isnt there 16:08 < aegray> yes it 16:08 < aegray> is 16:08 < BleuLlama> ye 16:08 < BleuLlama> s it is 16:08 < koekie> ok ill look again 16:09 < koekie> tnx 16:09 < trackdork> yikes... jump all over that one whydon'tcha 16:09 < trackdork> heh 16:09 < courtc> hey koekie, its in cvs 16:09 < aegray> yea - in cvs 16:09 < koekie> OK 16:09 < Jack_MD> aegray: did you look at the pictures yet? 16:09 < koekie> i got it 16:10 < aegray> yes 16:10 < aegray> it doesn't look like there's any trace of a real video there 16:10 < trackdork> well... BL, can you give me a good starting point? besides trying to install ipl obviously? i'm a C++ developer so i'll probably be able to find my way around source code... 16:11 < BleuLlama> download the source, get it building, tinker with it 16:11 < Jack_MD> trackdork: the loader also written in asm 16:11 < trackdork> cool... i'll have to brush up on my assembler too 16:11 < Jack_MD> it's arm assembler 16:11 < Jack_MD> not x86 16:11 < BleuLlama> it helps you put to gether weapons 16:12 -!- MostOdd [n=na@81-86-10-49.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 < MostOdd> You'll probably have to start learning from scratch. 16:12 < trackdork> assembler's all the same... you gotta relearn it every time anyway ;) 16:12 < Jack_MD> asm is machine dependant, not like c(++) 16:12 < koekie> ok turns out it's useless for what i'm up to 16:13 < BleuLlama> yes, but the concepts of asm are pretty much the same from one platform to the next 16:13 < BleuLlama> you just gotta learn the assembler's syntax and cpu capbailities 16:13 * BleuLlama good with 68k and Z80 assembler 16:13 < trackdork> yes. i know. i'm a hardware guy that learned c++/java/whatever so i could get a real job when i graduated 16:13 < MostOdd> I love my Mighty Mouse 16:14 < trackdork> fun stuff 16:14 < A-K> they look pretty cool 16:14 < A-K> but its just a mouse 16:14 < courtc> and not a fake job, eh? 16:14 < MostOdd> It's a *weird* mouse 16:14 < trackdork> exACTLY 16:14 < Jack_MD> MostOdd: did you try to play a shooter game yet? 16:14 < MostOdd> With a Mighty Mouse? No chance ;) 16:15 < MostOdd> WoW is a bit of a pain, since you usually use both buttons together to run.. 16:15 < MostOdd> ..and Mighty Mouse HAS no both buttons together. 16:15 < trackdork> i had a job lined up with SGI when i graduated in 2001, but by the time i got out, the job had dissapeared, along with their stock price 16:15 < BleuLlama> i have *never* used both buttons on a mouse to run in a FPS 16:15 < courtc> ditto 16:15 < MostOdd> No.. ..but in World of Warcraft it's the default. 16:15 < koekie> how can i change ipodlinux to open another exec than podzilla 16:15 < trackdork> so i decided to get a SW job to hold me over. haven't really gone back 16:15 < courtc> wow != fps 16:15 < BleuLlama> i usually use the mouse for positioning/aim, strafe, and the wheel for weapon change... 16:16 < MostOdd> courtc exactly. 16:16 < trackdork> i miss the days of silicon design... ahhhh.... 16:16 < MostOdd> But then again, it is if you roll the mouse wheel forward. 16:16 < MostOdd> Then it's FPS :) 16:16 < Appelmoes> if I was a designer with apple I would have made the scrollball a little touchpad 16:16 < courtc> no, its a FPIPAOMFTSG 16:17 < BleuLlama> i was gonna say it's a TPSWYZICRTATPS 16:17 < BleuLlama> what's yours? 16:17 < MostOdd> It *is* First Person Perspective if you 'zoom' right into your character. 16:17 < MostOdd> It's just not a game you'd refer to as *a* FPS 16:17 < courtc> First Person I Paid Alot of Money For This Stupid Game 16:17 < koekie> how can i change ipodlinux to open another exec than podzilla? 16:18 < MostOdd> I Paid A Lot Of Money And Can't Stop Playing It 16:18 < _KDE> koekie: edit /etc/rc 16:18 -!- gop2 [i=party@ool-435298ee.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:18 < BleuLlama> Third Person Shooter When You Zoom In Close Rather Than A First Person Shooter 16:18 < gop2> check this out 16:18 < koekie> ok tnx 16:18 < BleuLlama> although i typod. heh 16:18 < gop2> have you people seen this 16:18 < gop2> http://www.numark.com/images/products/large/idj_large.jpg 16:18 < trackdork> i'm going to go play with IPL... thanks for the info, BL and koekie 16:18 < gop2> hmm would ipodlinux support this 16:18 < BleuLlama> have fun 16:19 < MostOdd> BleuLlama: never get a job creating snappy acronyms. 16:19 < koekie> he? 16:19 < BleuLlama> never plan on it 16:19 < trackdork> oh i will... and i'll come back and ask alllll kinds of questions about why it's not working ;) 16:20 < koekie> what are u up to? 16:20 < BleuLlama> you* 16:20 < courtc> I Continue To Play This Damn Game And Flush Someones (Most Likely Not Mine) Well Earned Money Down The Toilet 16:20 < A-K> what game? 16:20 < MostOdd> I'm hoping I'll get bored soon after making lvl 40. 16:20 < courtc> ICTPTDGAFS(MLNM)WEMDTT 16:20 < MostOdd> What with it being a subscription game. 16:21 < BleuLlama> i cancelled my City Of Heroes subscription ($15/mo) and instead got a subscription for dxtuners.com... i get a lot more entertainment from it, for less $ 16:22 -!- LMX2 [i=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:22 -!- lucaas [n=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:23 < MostOdd> I still love my Mighty Mouse :) 16:23 < MostOdd> The scroll ball is excellent. 16:23 < courtc> gop2, no.. not unless someone gets one and makes it work.. 16:23 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 16:23 < MostOdd> BleuLlama are you Yorgle on DXtuners? :) 16:24 < BleuLlama> no. BLH9834 16:24 < courtc> creative 16:24 < BleuLlama> ham license 16:25 < courtc> ... creative 16:25 < courtc> ;) 16:25 < BleuLlama> nah. i don't have a ham license yet. 16:25 < BleuLlama> yeah. i'm yorgle. 16:26 * courtc accuses Bleu of not being creative... 16:26 * courtc then looks at his own nick 16:26 < courtc> hmm... 16:27 < BleuLlama> ZING! 16:27 * BleuLlama looks into what's involved in getting a Ham operators license 16:27 * courtc almost had one.. :/ 16:27 < courtc> and then I didn't 16:28 < BleuLlama> i should get a Technician Class license. seems pretty easy 16:28 < BleuLlama> no morse code, 35 question test 16:29 -!- A-K [n=mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp176854.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:29 < gop2> I want this and http://www.numark.com/images/products/large/battlepakv4_large.jpg and virtual dj 16:30 * BleuLlama lunches 16:30 < courtc> BleuLlama, bring me back some will you? 16:30 < BleuLlama> okay. what do you want? 16:30 < courtc> where are you going? 16:31 < BleuLlama> the Caf 16:31 < courtc> umm.. ... whatever.. something yummy.. 16:35 < aegray> hey what bogomips do you guys get on your ipods? 16:35 < aegray> //how many 16:35 < courtc> 8b 16:36 < courtc> 32.87 16:37 < aegray> how many is the photo supposed to get? 16:37 < courtc> around the same I think.. 16:37 < courtc> you're the one with the photo ;) 16:37 < aegray> weird..I always thought it was the same but its reporting 37.7 now 16:37 < aegray> err - something right around there 16:39 < koekie> how do u know? 16:39 < aegray> dmesg reports it 16:39 < courtc> /proc/cpuinfo also 16:39 < koekie> ok 16:40 < koekie> 32,87 16:40 < aegray> on your photo? 16:40 < koekie> so same 16:40 < koekie> no mini 16:40 < koekie> 1g 16:40 < aegray> yea courtc's on that too 16:40 < aegray> anyone here on a photo? 16:41 < Jack_MD> yeah, me 16:41 < aegray> can you check /proc/cpuinfo for me+ 16:41 < aegray> ?* 16:41 < Jack_MD> yep, wait 16:42 < koekie> if i run dmesg i cant see it 16:43 < Jack_MD> 37.37BogoMIPS 16:43 < aegray> ok 16:43 < aegray> cool 16:43 < courtc> huh 16:43 < aegray> weird 16:43 < aegray> same chip 16:43 < koekie> what kernel? 16:43 < courtc> the 16:43 < Jack_MD> I have a 30gig one and 08-11 kernel 16:43 < koekie> me to 16:44 < aegray> its not dependent on the kernel 16:44 < aegray> / shouldn't be 16:44 < koekie> ok... 16:44 < koekie> :( 16:44 < Jack_MD> what are BogoMIPS? 16:44 < aegray> evil monsters 16:44 < Jack_MD> cpu speed? 16:44 < koekie> lol 16:44 < aegray> processing power 16:45 < koekie> r u on photo aegray? 16:45 < courtc> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BogoMips/x78.html#AEN81 16:45 < aegray> are* you* 16:45 < aegray> yes 16:45 < Jack_MD> courtc: thx 16:45 < koekie> what model? 16:46 < aegray> 40gig 16:46 < koekie> ok thats older than jack's 16:46 < Jack_MD> yep 16:46 -!- MostOdd [n=na@81-86-10-49.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:51 < koekie> i'm off 16:51 -!- koekie [n=koekie@ip-81-11-217-193.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:53 < Jack_MD> me too 16:53 -!- Jack_MD [n=Jack_MD@p5488A9E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:58 < BleuLlama> just remember, the "bogo" in bogomips is short for "bogus". 17:05 -!- mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 17:09 -!- _matt_ [n=matt@ACC8273E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:10 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 17:21 < _matt_> I'm having problems compiling for the desktop, at the microwindows stage. I get the following error: 17:21 < _matt_> Compiling scr_x11.c ... 17:21 < _matt_> scr_x11.c:15:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory 17:21 < _matt_> scr_x11.c:16:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory 17:21 < BleuLlama> and your x11 dev lib is in the location specified in your makefile? 17:22 < aegray> do you people read errors at all? 17:23 < _matt_> I know what that error means :| but I'm doing it following the wiki instructions. A better question would be, does anyone know why this directory isn't where it should be in the Microwindows source? 17:23 < aegray> you have to have the X11 development libraries and headers installed 17:23 < aegray> its a part of X windows 17:23 < _matt_> okdoky 17:23 -!- Z_Man [n=zacharyh@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:24 < _matt_> I thought it was looking for a file in the microwindows src not a general linux library 17:25 < BleuLlama> well, the path in the makefile (if you look in there) is probably specified like $(directory)X11/Xlib.h, or perhaps it just needs to be in an include path... who knows.. 17:25 < BleuLlama> figure it out. :) 17:25 * BleuLlama afk for a meeting 17:26 < _matt_> I looked in the Makefile first, amazingly. There is no mention. In which case your include path suggestion seems likely 17:27 < aegray> silly meetings 17:30 -!- A-K [n=mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp176854.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 17:40 -!- Hostile [n=lanteau@cblmdm63-166-39-237.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:42 -!- l3izlimpkit [n=pdizzle@cpe-66-75-231-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:42 -!- l3izlimpkit [n=pdizzle@cpe-66-75-231-247.san.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:44 -!- hyarion [n=hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:44 -!- l3izlimpkit [n=pdizzle@cpe-66-75-231-247.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:45 -!- l3izlimpkit [n=pdizzle@cpe-66-75-231-247.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:46 -!- A-K [n=mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp176854.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:49 -!- Prot [i=Prot@ip24-251-0-137.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:04 -!- Raim- [i=Raim@dial10346.odn.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08 -!- trackdork [n=peter@66.203.70.59] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:11 -!- _matt_ is now known as _matt_away 18:37 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AA8E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 18:38 -!- v1p3r [n=v1p3r@host217-43-129-198.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 18:41 -!- Cippo [n=Cippo@ti521110a080-0619.bb.online.no] has quit ["Shutdown time"] 18:46 -!- _matt_away is now known as _matt_ 18:54 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:00 < _matt_> thanks for your previous help, I have another question. When compiling podzilla (for the desktop) I get the error 19:01 < _matt_> : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg 19:01 < _matt_> -ljpeg is an LDFLAG in the podzilla makefile... any idea what causes this? 19:04 < BleuLlama> look on like 75 i think of the makefile 19:04 < aegray> you need to go through the whole "building podzilla" tutorial 19:04 < BleuLlama> (from memory) 19:04 < BleuLlama> make sure it's not commented out 19:04 < aegray> did you build libjpeg already? 19:04 < aegray> erm 19:04 < aegray> add libjpegs path to the library path 19:04 < aegray> in the makefile 19:04 < BleuLlama> -notice- this channel has used up all of BleuLlama's support points for the day. Better luck tomorrow! Thank you. 19:04 * aegray shutup 19:15 < _matt_> wow I guess I'm lucky that your last help of the day solved my final problem in getting my auto build script for the desktop to work :) 19:19 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < joecool> mmm 19:21 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- itchy [i=itchy@adsl-83-100-196-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:23 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:24 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ss/ss-20050811.png 19:24 < TonyCGames> Qucik question 19:24 < aegray> cool 19:24 < TonyCGames> does ipodlinux work on an ipod mini 4gig? 19:24 < aegray> kinda 19:24 < aegray> ye 19:24 < aegray> s 19:24 < aegray> but you can't count on help doing it 19:25 < TonyCGames> what do i need 19:25 < itchy> does anyone have IPL on their phot with the firmware from 26 June 2005 19:25 < aegray> your brain, your eyes, and the wiki 19:25 < TonyCGames> wiki? 19:25 < aegray> ipodlinux.org 19:25 < TonyCGames> yeha 19:25 < TonyCGames> yeah* 19:25 < BleuLlama> i used to, yes, itchy. worked great. took about 5-10 minutes total to install it all. 19:26 < TonyCGames> do i need the 4 gig installer? 19:26 < itchy> using the modded installer or the normal? 19:26 < BleuLlama> me? 19:26 < itchy> yup 19:26 < BleuLlama> installed by hand following the directions on the wiki 19:26 < BleuLlama> it's straightforward enough 19:27 < itchy> i scoured but i cant find info for installing with the new update, (i had a greyscale before, but i just bought a photo) 19:27 < BleuLlama> it's the same as the other ipods, with the exception of adding -3 19:27 < itchy> if you have the hyperlink that's be great bleu :D 19:27 < BleuLlama> sure. let me dig it up 19:27 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org 19:27 < aegray> hehe 19:27 < BleuLlama> http://www.ipodlinux.org 19:27 < BleuLlama> there you go 19:28 * BleuLlama 3:30 meeting 19:28 < aegray> yea right 19:28 < itchy> hahahaha..lol dosn't matter i have it saed in my bookmarks. just remembers. you got a meeting? 19:29 < itchy> what os do you use? 19:30 -!- joecool [n=joecool@no-sources/joecool] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:33 -!- _matt_ is now known as _matt_away 19:34 * itchy relaxes 19:37 < itchy> Tony, you still there? 19:37 < TonyCGames> yeah 19:37 < itchy> you want IPL on your 4g? 19:37 < TonyCGames> yeah 19:37 < TonyCGames> im dling the stuff 19:38 < itchy> have you updated your ipod yet( the podcast support)? 19:38 < TonyCGames> im gonna downgrade it 19:38 < TonyCGames> i cant find the sysfile in the devices folder 19:38 < gop2> so the ipod with podcast support 19:38 < itchy> tell me when you have, if you need help, im here, i have it on my grayscale ipod 19:38 < gop2> won't with work with 4g 19:38 < itchy> nope 19:38 < gop2> how does one install 19:38 < gop2> Do i need to downgrade 19:39 < itchy> yes :( 19:39 < TonyCGames> does anyone know plcaes to get older firmware versions 19:39 * itchy sratches chin 19:39 < itchy> yes i do 19:39 < TonyCGames> where 19:40 < itchy> hold on..my firefox has crashed.. 19:40 < TonyCGames> because my soruce prbably doesnt have it because it was an older psot 19:40 < TonyCGames> post* 19:40 < itchy> your source? 19:41 < TonyCGames> its not there so it doesnt matter 19:41 < itchy> i can send you the file if you need it 19:41 < TonyCGames> okay 19:41 < TonyCGames> i quess 19:42 < itchy> there we go 19:43 < itchy> you'll need to accept 19:44 < TonyCGames> ty 19:46 < itchy> shoudnt take long 19:47 < TonyCGames> its says time left being 30 minutes 19:47 < TonyCGames> but it jumps arpund 19:48 < itchy> sometimes it speeds sometimes it slows 19:49 < TonyCGames> yeah 19:53 < itchy> it stopped, youll have to accept again, itll resume where it left off 19:56 -!- aegray [n=aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:59 -!- itchy [i=itchy@adsl-83-100-196-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 19:59 < Luke> hey all 20:01 -!- Sereroku [n=NNSCRIPT@Fd317.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:01 -!- crucifixion [i=c@ip68-13-212-56.hr.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:05 -!- warter [n=warter@p549AA8E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 20:05 < _KDE> Apple OS has a Museum Mode :o 20:10 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:12 < meatmanek> _KDE, does it now 20:12 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:13 < _KDE> huh? 20:16 < _KDE> meatmanek? 20:17 < meatmanek> a museum mode? 20:17 < _KDE> http://developer.apple.com/hardware/ipod/ipodnotereader.pdf 20:17 < BleuLlama> it's been in there since they added Notes functionality 20:17 < BleuLlama> nothing new there. 20:18 < _KDE> so you can't exit notes until you do a hard reset? 20:18 < BleuLlama> i believe that is the case with museum mode, yes. 20:23 < gop2> why does segate claims it 200GB capacity 20:24 < gop2> but when I see it formated 20:24 < gop2> it 185 20:24 < gop2> or so gigs 20:24 < gop2> I mean the fielsystem must be the reason 20:24 < BleuLlama> go read a hard drive faq. 20:24 < gop2> oh 20:24 < gop2> I know it the math 20:25 < gop2> but consumer are tricked 20:25 < _KDE> well on 20GB ipods the hdd consists of 20 billion bytes, but not of 20GB ;) 20:25 < _KDE> 1GB=1024^3 Bytes 20:26 < gop2> oh 20:26 < gop2> yea 1024 hmm 20:26 < gop2> oh hmm 20:27 < gop2> I need to replace this hd, for something faster and and < 200 $ 20:31 -!- _KDE [n=KDE@ppp-82-135-11-177.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 20:33 < meatmanek> 200000000000/1024/1024/1024 20:33 < meatmanek> 186.264 20:33 < meatmanek> minus your filesystem stuff 20:47 -!- thoma1 [n=thomas@adsl-221-87-45.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #iPodLinux 20:47 < thoma1> Hello! 20:49 -!- thoma1 [n=thomas@adsl-221-87-45.rmo.bellsouth.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 20:50 -!- aradarg [n=aradarg@port118.ds1-abs.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:54 -!- Izz^ [n=Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has left #iPodLinux ["Leaving"] 21:05 -!- LMX2 [i=LMX@h31n11c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:09 < BleuLlama> thanks. 21:09 < BleuLlama> oops 21:18 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 21:23 -!- Raim [i=Raim2@dial10269.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:35 -!- PurpleWurld [n=me@c-24-63-201-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:36 < PurpleWurld> Hi, I'm one of those morons who has messed up his 4G bu trying to follow the unsupported 4G instructions. My ipod currently isn't running podzilla, but looks more like a shell (w/ no directory listed). It shows L 21:36 < PurpleWurld> 's and r's depending on whicxh way I scroll 21:38 < PurpleWurld> is there a channel where I might be able to get some help that anyone know of? 21:39 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088BD5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:39 < PurpleWurld> nevermind. I guess everyone here is an idler 21:40 -!- PurpleWurld [n=me@c-24-63-201-151.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:48 < gop2> hmm 21:48 < gop2> I guess I can't help 21:49 < boza111> wassup 22:00 < boza111> everyone still so idle ? 22:01 < Luke> i'm here kinda 22:02 < courtc> I'm not, idle.. I'm just not talking 22:02 < courtc> -, 22:02 < Luke> no one is idle... we just are doing other things 22:02 < Luke> like magic 22:02 < boza111> lol 22:03 < boza111> fair nuff 22:03 -!- BeOSMrX [n=ubuntu@S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < BeOSMrX> hey 22:04 < BeOSMrX> hey i was wondering, why doesnt ubuntu have a 'disks' feature, or 'disks setup' like BeOS does? because it would be usefull so i can mount and view all disks connected to the system. is there a feature on the ubuntu live cd that does this?. 22:04 < gop2> wow 22:04 < gop2> check this out 22:04 < gop2> this is cool 22:04 < gop2> August 11, 2005 - The Apple Developer kit version of MacOSX x86 has indeed been fully cracked! An anonymous source has sent us a video showing MacOSX x86 booting natively on a Pc notebook Mitac 8050D (Pentium-M 735/1.6GHz)! Check Here 22:04 < gop2> I new it 22:04 < gop2> it was going to be hacke 22:04 < gop2> d 22:04 < courtc> hey I was wondering, why are you asking ubuntu related questions in #ipodlinux? 22:05 < BeOSMrX> courtc, because the users in here, know everything and are smart, and reply quickly 22:05 < boza111> yo , can you give us a link of the video ? 22:06 < Luke> BeOSMrX: i'm thinking that the ubuntu live cd can do that because its got initrd 22:06 < courtc> have you tried #ubuntu? thats horribly off-topic 22:06 < Luke> courtc: he's right - the #ubuntu people are morons 22:06 < BeOSMrX> i know, but they are stupid 22:06 < Luke> but yea - ubuntu live cd has initrd so you should be able to mount all the disks 22:06 < boza111> i used to have ubuntu on one of my systems 22:06 < BeOSMrX> at least this is interesting 22:07 < BeOSMrX> okay - so just use that cvommand, initrd ? do i have to use root terminal 22:07 < Luke> BeOSMrX: no initrd is initial ram disk or something like that meaning that it loads into ram so you can mount things and stuff 22:07 < BeOSMrX> oh, well i have 1GB of ram 22:07 < Luke> only? thats plenty 22:07 < BeOSMrX> haha 22:08 < BeOSMrX> well, so i have fat32 disk... 22:08 < BeOSMrX> i think im running into problems with it 22:08 < Luke> keep in mind the livecd is only 600mb or around there 22:08 < Luke> whats on your fat32? 22:08 < Luke> cause you should be able to mount that 22:08 < BeOSMrX> i was going to test it with hgst (hitachi drive test) 22:08 < Luke> so you want to use the ubuntu live cd to test a fat32 drive? 22:08 < BeOSMrX> which is the best hard disk utility from floppy boot i have used. better than powermax 22:09 < BeOSMrX> BUT- 22:09 < BeOSMrX> i am running it on a promise 133 adapter 22:09 < Luke> whats that? 22:09 < BeOSMrX> because this board's bios cannot do the 200GB size 22:09 < BeOSMrX> just an add-on drive controller, that's all 22:09 < Vanquisher> what are u even doing ubuntu 22:09 < Vanquisher> it sucks 22:09 < BeOSMrX> well 22:09 < Vanquisher> just install fedora for god sakes 22:09 < BeOSMrX> i am having issues with 98 22:09 < BeOSMrX> i am 22:10 < BeOSMrX> i was looking at it today and yesterday 22:10 < Vanquisher> good screw ubuntu 22:10 < Luke> BeOSMrX: i think Vanquisher is right - if you want a good livecd for fixing drives there are better floppy distros out there 22:10 < Vanquisher> its crap 22:10 < BeOSMrX> i know... beos is better ! 22:10 < Vanquisher> anything else but ubuntu 22:10 < Vanquisher> lol 22:10 < Luke> BeOSMrX: ubuntu live cd is meant to be a livecd desktop not a disk util 22:10 < Vanquisher> and usually the other uses of other distros arnt morons 22:10 < Vanquisher> lol 22:10 < BeOSMrX> oh... 22:10 < Vanquisher> like #fedora can be helpful 22:10 < Luke> yea 22:10 < BeOSMrX> well i need some cd burners 22:10 < Vanquisher> if you can catch someone whos inteligent 22:10 < BeOSMrX> well i need to get to the point 22:10 < BeOSMrX> so.,.. 22:11 < Luke> lots of livecds have cd burning software 22:11 < BeOSMrX> i was having issues with the drive, it's acting funny 22:11 < Luke> and disk testing 22:11 < Vanquisher> losts of livecds have Xorg 22:11 < Vanquisher> and such 22:11 < BeOSMrX> started scandisk was taking soo long at the first step (in dos mode) 22:11 < Luke> Basically if your looking for a untility live cd dont use Ubuntu 22:11 < Luke> its not meant for that 22:11 < Luke> its meant for morons 22:11 < Vanquisher> yeah 22:11 < BeOSMrX> something about the LBA 22:11 < Luke> thats why their channel sucks 22:11 < Vanquisher> haha Luke is correct 22:11 < Vanquisher> gentoo has a amazing livecd 22:11 < Vanquisher> :) 22:11 < Luke> this is true 22:12 < Luke> not a lot of utilities on it though 22:12 * Vanquisher runs gento 22:12 < Vanquisher> gentoo* 22:12 < Vanquisher> Luke, well mine does 22:12 < Luke> BeOSMrX: your going to have to google around for a live distro with all the stuff you need 22:12 < Vanquisher> Luke, it has nvidia-drivers xorg, airsnort 22:12 < Luke> Vanquisher: custome one? 22:12 < Vanquisher> Luke, its a livedvd though :) 22:12 < Vanquisher> not just a d 22:12 < Vanquisher> cd* 22:12 < Luke> is it a custome gentoo livecd? 22:13 < boza111> whats the best linux os ? 22:13 < Luke> there is no best 22:13 < Luke> they are different and meant for different things 22:13 < boza111> for a standard user that is 22:13 < Vanquisher> Luke, yeah 22:13 < Luke> there is no standard user 22:13 < Vanquisher> for a n00b 22:13 < Vanquisher> fedora 22:13 < Vanquisher> cuz its an easy install 22:13 < Vanquisher> its like windows you insert cds 22:13 < Luke> Mandriva is easy to install too 22:13 < Vanquisher> and it installs 22:14 < boza111> oh right .. how about for a noob , But it should have good software for servers 22:14 < Luke> Ubuntu is good for n00bs too 22:14 < Luke> boza111: you can install server software on any linux distro 22:14 < boza111> cool . i have used ubuntu . and i sort of like it 22:14 < Luke> worst case you just build it from source 22:14 < Vanquisher> rofl 22:14 -!- TonyCGames [n=TonyCGam@MetroSTL-68.188.64.167.charter-stl.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 22:14 < Vanquisher> ubuntu im sorry but its so bad 22:14 < Luke> Vanquisher: dont you wonder how people like this get involved with iPL? 22:15 < boza111> oh thanks Luke 22:15 < Vanquisher> Luke, i can only wonder 22:15 < Vanquisher> lol 22:15 < Luke> haha 22:15 < Luke> I think all new linux users should be required to use gentoo or some type of ports distro 22:15 < Luke> slackware 22:15 < Luke> LFS 22:15 < Vanquisher> yah 22:15 < Vanquisher> i started on gentoo 22:15 < Vanquisher> it was my first 22:15 < Luke> me too 22:15 < Vanquisher> so i had to learn fast 22:15 < Luke> and boy I learned too much 22:15 < Luke> soo* 22:15 < Vanquisher> same 22:15 < Luke> I moved to CRUX though 22:16 < Vanquisher> im so pumped 22:16 < Luke> Gentoo was too much bloat for me 22:16 < Vanquisher> i got a box to host my apache server 22:16 < Vanquisher> ! 22:16 < boza111> maybe i should try gentoo 22:16 < Vanquisher> so i dont have to do it on my desktop anymore 22:16 < Luke> thtas awesome 22:16 < Luke> I just bought a godaddy.com host 22:16 < Vanquisher> yeah for free too 22:16 < Vanquisher> :) 22:16 < boza111> what are the differences between the distros ? 22:16 < Vanquisher> boza111, gentoo is harder to install 22:16 < Vanquisher> boza111, follow the docs you'll be okay 22:16 < Luke> boza111: different package management software. Installations. scripts 22:16 < Luke> boza111: the software it comes with 22:17 < Luke> boza111: all that stuff defines a distro 22:17 < Vanquisher> gentoo offers alot of optimzations 22:17 < Vanquisher> you build for your cpu 22:17 < Vanquisher> in gentoo 22:17 < Luke> all source distros offer the same optimizations 22:17 < boza111> oh right . that sounds coool 22:17 < Luke> its just gcc 22:17 < Vanquisher> yeah but gentoo is a true test 22:17 < Luke> you could do that same stuff on debian - you'd just have to build it all from scratch or install a different package management system 22:17 < Vanquisher> i dont understand some of the n00bs in #gentoo 22:18 < Luke> gentoo attracts a lot of ricers because its easy to optimize 22:18 < Luke> you dont have to know shit about compiling from scratch 22:18 < Vanquisher> "why does it dhcp my ethernet man, this sucks, gentoo sucks OMG"......."did you even f-in emerge dhcpcd"......."oh damn, wth man it should come with something" 22:18 < Vanquisher> lol 22:18 < gop2> you still talk about ricers 22:18 < Vanquisher> thats all you get in #gentoo 22:18 < BeOSMrX> well 22:18 < BeOSMrX> i tried installing gentoo 22:18 < Vanquisher> n00bs who dont know shit, and they complain 22:19 < BeOSMrX> their guide was imcomplete 22:19 < Luke> Vanquisher: well gentoo doesnt exactly have the best net scripts 22:19 < BeOSMrX> they took me on the wrong path 22:19 < boza111> oh you know stuff like Suse . Why does cost quite a bit . Is it because of all the software it comes with 22:19 < Vanquisher> Luke, true 22:19 < Luke> Vanquisher: its worth it though for portage if you want use flags 22:19 < Vanquisher> exactly 22:19 < Vanquisher> i think portage is the best package management system right now 22:19 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 -!- zsr [n=zsr@c-67-164-142-117.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:20 < Luke> boza111: suse costs a lot because its highly customized to work well for a desktop/workstation user without a lot of work by you 22:20 < Luke> boza111: and they offer support 22:20 < boza111> oh right . so its not really made by "the community" . its a professional system . right ? 22:20 < Luke> yea 22:20 < Luke> exactly 22:21 < Luke> community built distros are usually more do-it-yourself based 22:21 < Vanquisher> yeah wow i have too many computers lol, my room is like a server room 22:21 < Luke> because they dont have the money to pour into testing and that sort of stuff 22:21 < boza111> yea 22:22 < Vanquisher> im gonna ebay off this one box 22:22 < Vanquisher> i tink 22:22 < Vanquisher> think* 22:22 < Luke> Vanquisher: what are the specs? 22:22 < Luke> i'm looking for a media box 22:22 < BeOSMrX> it looked good (gentoo) but it was impossible to follow theinstall guide 'exactly' and get through it 22:22 < Vanquisher> Luke, its no power house 22:22 < Luke> DRI works? 22:22 < Vanquisher> yeah it has a 32MB Rage pro 22:22 < BeOSMrX> you'd had to be an expert, because with all the steps they missed, you had to 'fill in the blanks' 22:22 < BeOSMrX> impossible to do for a newb, with me. 22:22 < Luke> Vanquisher: does it support a TV? 22:22 < Vanquisher> s-video 22:23 < Luke> awesome 22:23 < Luke> with direct rendering?! 22:23 < Vanquisher> sure 22:23 < Luke> do glxinfo 22:23 < Vanquisher> the kernel modules for DRI are built into the kernels 22:23 < Vanquisher> so all you do is select it in the kernel config 22:23 < Vanquisher> and wa-la 22:23 < Vanquisher> DRI 22:23 < Vanquisher> no hassles 22:23 < BeOSMrX> so, is the installation for nvidia drivers 'easy' now on linux? 22:23 < BleuLlama> wa-la? 22:23 < Luke> output glxinfo | grep direct for me would you? 22:23 < BeOSMrX> like, windows easy? 22:23 < Vanquisher> Luke, im not on it 22:24 < Luke> boza111: yea its really easy 22:24 < Luke> Vanquisher: ok 22:24 < Vanquisher> Luke, but i can tell you it works 22:24 < Luke> Vanquisher: how much are you looking to sell it for? 22:24 < Vanquisher> dunno 22:24 < Vanquisher> 100 bucks 22:24 < Luke> Hmm 22:24 < Luke> with a rage 32? 22:24 < Vanquisher> yeah 22:24 < BeOSMrX> so, is the installation for nvidia drivers 'easy' now on linux? like, windows easy? 22:24 < Vanquisher> pe 500 22:24 < Vanquisher> p3 22:24 < Luke> how many MHz? 22:24 < Vanquisher> it pulls about 22:24 < BeOSMrX> because last time i did it on mandrake, i broke it 22:24 < Vanquisher> 800FPS 22:24 < Vanquisher> in glxgears 22:25 < boza111> lol . no BeOSMrX . i had ubuntu running ,. tooking my bloody ages to figure out how to get the nvidia drivers to install correctly 22:25 < boza111> me * 22:25 < Vanquisher> Luke, like i said not a power house 22:25 < Vanquisher> Luke, 500mhz 22:25 < Vanquisher> but its a p3 22:25 < Luke> Vanquisher: hmm it still sounds tempting 22:25 < Vanquisher> it was always a good box 22:25 < Luke> I'll talk to my roommate and see if he wants to split it 22:25 < Luke> otherwise i dont have the money 22:25 < Vanquisher> k 22:26 < Vanquisher> it needs a HD upgrade 22:26 < Vanquisher> its very tiny 22:26 < BeOSMrX> aw shite 22:26 < Luke> i can handle that 22:26 < Vanquisher> Luke, so if your gonna throw in a new drive, bother to send it with one? 22:26 < BeOSMrX> boza111, BeOS is easy to install the 3d drivers, just move 2 files to the system folder! 22:26 < Luke> Vanquisher: yea you could keep that 22:26 < Vanquisher> k 22:26 < BeOSMrX> no reboot needed! 22:27 < Luke> you dont need to reboot linux to install video drivers either 22:27 < boza111> yea thats cool 22:27 < Vanquisher> modules-update 22:27 < Vanquisher> modprobe 22:27 < Luke> yup 22:27 < Luke> and restart X 22:27 < Vanquisher> exactly 22:27 < courtc> X is lame 22:27 < BeOSMrX> so what's better, fedora, or suse? 22:27 < Vanquisher> free vs money 22:27 < Luke> depends on what you like 22:27 < Vanquisher> lol 22:27 < BeOSMrX> (for newbies, form windows or beos) 22:27 < Vanquisher> fedora 22:28 < BeOSMrX> ohkay 22:28 < BeOSMrX> better than ubut2 ? 22:28 < Vanquisher> shit load 22:28 < Luke> i like fedora because they do a lot of work on gnome 22:28 < Vanquisher> lol 22:28 < boza111> the best thing , i like bout linux is the stability .... Linux doesnt really have a lot of compatability (lol i know i shouldnt say this on this channel ) 22:28 < BeOSMrX> wow, but ubut2 advertise's how good they are, at catering to newbs 22:29 < BeOSMrX> boza111, i know what you mean. the canon printer i320, not a chance it's gonna work with ubuntu 22:29 < boza111> yea , thats the kind of stuff i mean 22:29 < BeOSMrX> well the good thing about linux , for most media players that plug into 'usb' it 'works' right away, no need to drivers. 22:29 < BeOSMrX> except printers >:/ 22:30 < Luke> linux doesnt have a lot of compatability? 22:30 -!- Thijs [n=mathijs@cc15766-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:30 < Luke> wtf are you talking about? 22:30 < BeOSMrX> not for new things, like canon printers 22:30 < Vanquisher> lol 22:30 < Luke> haha 22:30 < Luke> riiiight 22:30 < BeOSMrX> the i320, i need turbo print, and ubut2 cannot install a .rpm, it opens with a archive manager 22:30 < Vanquisher> im sure if you googled hard enough 22:30 < Vanquisher> you would find 22:30 < BeOSMrX> i did 22:30 < Vanquisher> im sure 22:30 < boza111> also software wise . all apps are written for windows 22:30 < BeOSMrX> i found that only turbo print works 22:31 < Vanquisher> like the one person that said 22:31 < Vanquisher> "i googled and couldnt find my monitor specs" 22:31 < courtc> boza111, all of them huh? 22:31 < Vanquisher> "did you google hard" 22:31 < Vanquisher> "yes" 22:31 < BeOSMrX> from google 22:31 < Vanquisher> i found them in 2 minutes 22:31 < BeOSMrX> i googled so hard, i broke my fingers 22:31 < Vanquisher> some people dont search 22:31 < Luke> hey thats enough 22:31 -!- salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:31 < Vanquisher> :) 22:31 < boza111> Courtc: Ok ofcourse i don't mean all of them . but a vast majority of them 22:31 < Vanquisher> BeOSMrX, support will come 22:31 < Vanquisher> have faith 22:31 < Luke> BeOSMrX: your talking to a bunch of linux users. This is not the place to be saying crap like that 22:32 < Vanquisher> haha yeah 22:32 < Luke> If your smart - everything you want is supported 22:32 < BeOSMrX> i know, i said it's good for things like those mdeia players that plug into usb 22:32 < Vanquisher> :) 22:32 < Luke> you just have to be a smart shopper 22:32 < Vanquisher> exactly 22:32 < BeOSMrX> (like ip0d) 22:32 < Luke> its good for everything 22:32 < Vanquisher> like only buy nvdiia 22:32 < BeOSMrX> i know 22:32 < Luke> i've found nothing that doesnt work 22:32 < Vanquisher> nvidia* 22:32 < courtc> boza111, most windows applications have an equivelent on linux.. except games.. 22:32 < BeOSMrX> i only like nvidia 22:32 < Vanquisher> or older ati 22:32 < Luke> i even had my ATI card working with DRI 22:32 < Vanquisher> like rage 22:32 < Vanquisher> my rage pro worked sweet 22:32 < Luke> i had an ATI 9600 that worked with DRI just fine 22:32 < Vanquisher> still does 22:32 < BeOSMrX> usually my attitude is 'if X company doesnt support linux, why should i support them' 22:32 < Vanquisher> Luke, nice 22:33 < BeOSMrX> that's why i use beos 22:33 < Luke> it took a month to figure out tho Vanquisher =) 22:33 < BeOSMrX> beos is mostly hand me down from linux 22:33 < Vanquisher> :) 22:33 < Vanquisher> Luke, but the end result is what matters 22:33 < BeOSMrX> if it works on linux, it can be ported to beos 22:33 < Luke> UT2k3 worked great 22:33 < Vanquisher> all good things in time they say 22:33 < Luke> on the ATI 22:33 < Vanquisher> yeah i got no problems playing games on my card 22:33 < boza111> courtc : Yea thats true. I have seen every single app thats available for windows on linux too. But the difference is that for windows they have a huge selection of the same type of app 22:33 < Luke> BeOSMrX: if it works on windows it cant be ported to linux 22:33 < Vanquisher> plays doom3 no sweat 22:34 < Vanquisher> at 1024x768 22:34 < Vanquisher> high 22:34 < Vanquisher> :) 22:34 < Luke> hehe 22:34 < courtc> boza111, which all cost money.. 22:34 < Luke> i dont want to have this discussion anymore 22:35 < Vanquisher> Luke, get back to me 22:35 < boza111> lol . thats why a lot of people in the world turn into pirates under a windos regime :p 22:35 < Luke> no offence but i dont feel like a BeOS user has the knowledge to tell me what Linux cant support 22:35 < Vanquisher> whenever 22:35 < Luke> Vanquisher: will do 22:35 < Luke> Vanquisher: whenever I talk to my roommate 22:35 < Luke> may be like a week 22:35 < courtc> yea, on-topic from this line down: 22:35 < Luke> you can go ahead and put it on ebay if you like 22:35 < Vanquisher> its fine 22:35 < courtc> ------------------- 22:35 < Vanquisher> Luke, na 22:35 < Vanquisher> Luke, i'll wait 22:35 < Luke> k 22:36 < BeOSMrX> Luke, i don't im just being a newbie, and besides, it's not like you use BeOS as much as I do, so you wouldnt know the amount of driver support we get from companies. 'zero' 22:36 < Luke> didnt you see courtc's line!? 22:36 < Vanquisher> BeOSMrX, nvidia fully supports linux 22:36 < Vanquisher> BeOSMrX, please 22:36 < Vanquisher> lol 22:36 < BeOSMrX> i know 22:36 < BeOSMrX> it's great too 22:36 < BeOSMrX> real great 22:36 < Vanquisher> then u cant say we get zero 22:36 < Vanquisher> ati does sort of 22:36 < BeOSMrX> i say we do, 22:36 < BeOSMrX> beos 22:37 < courtc> so, how about those flashing arrows? 22:37 < Luke> hahaha 22:37 < BeOSMrX> i know the guy who is making the 3d driver for beos 22:37 < BleuLlama> i have two words for all of you 22:37 < BleuLlama> clock. faces. 22:38 < BeOSMrX> well, what does linux have for download managers? 22:38 < Luke> "s's and r's depending on whicxh way I scroll [are showing up]" <-- i love getting questions about that 22:38 < Luke> BeOSMrX: there are more download managers than we could ever tell you about for linux 22:38 < Luke> anyway please stay on ipodlinux topic now 22:38 < courtc> speaking of colorizing patches in the patches@ amiling list... 22:38 < BleuLlama> i know 22:39 < BleuLlama> i'll get on it at the end of next week. 22:39 < BleuLlama> i'm heading out of town starting tomorrow until thursday 22:39 < Luke> on no! 22:39 < courtc> where are you going? 22:39 < BleuLlama> NYC, NJ 22:39 < Luke> cool - for what? 22:39 < BeOSMrX> g2g, judge judy is coming on 22:39 < BleuLlama> visiting friends and family 22:39 < BeOSMrX> cya 22:39 < Luke> see ya 22:39 < BleuLlama> we'll miss you 22:40 < Luke> have fun BeOSMrX 22:40 < Luke> oops 22:40 < BeOSMrX> im not sure ... 22:40 -!- BeOSMrX [n=ubuntu@S0106000d870b9833.va.shawcable.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 22:40 < Luke> i mean have fun BleuLlama 22:40 < BleuLlama> heh 22:40 < BleuLlama> we will. 22:42 -!- _matt_away [n=matt@ACC8273E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:44 < Luke> .ipt.aol.com 22:44 < Luke> haha 22:59 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:09 < boza111> anyone play hl2 ? 23:10 < boza111> how about you port hl2 to the ipl 23:11 < courtc> how about *you* port hl2 to the ipod? 23:11 < boza111> lol . i was just kidding . i was waiting for that response 23:12 < boza111> anyway i am off . c you all later 23:12 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088BD5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:20 -!- Vanquisher [n=Van@unaffiliated/vanquisher] has joined #ipodlinux 23:26 -!- Timmaah [n=mroow@dsl-084-058-011-030.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:26 < Timmaah> hey, i know you hate these questions but i was wondering if youve obtained a 2g mini ? 23:35 < davidc__> we have some 23:36 < Timmaah> cool, good luck and i think what you guys are doing is fucking cool :D 23:39 < davidc__> thanks. IIRC, it semi works on 2g minis... 23:40 < Timmaah> ya, but i can wait till you guys get it fully supported 23:40 < meatmanek> Timmaah, try www.ipodlinux.org/4g 23:40 < meatmanek> not sure if there's a different page for the 2g minis. 23:40 < Timmaah> been there already 23:40 < Timmaah> nah its same page 23:40 < Timmaah> got some pictures of it working on mini 23:40 < davidc__> eh... its gonna be a bit until the 4g +'es are fully supported 23:41 < davidc__> for some reason it just doesn't run as well on them 23:41 < Timmaah> we talking weeks or months ? 23:42 < davidc__> eh, when its done, its done. 23:42 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088BD5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:42 < Timmaah> alright 23:43 < gop2> hmm 23:43 < gop2> my friend left with my ipod 23:44 < boza111> oh im so bored and cant go to sleep . what shall i do 23:46 -!- boza111 [i=Bor-is@p5088BD5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:49 < gop2> when will ipod mini 2g 23:49 < gop2> will be fully supported 23:49 < gop2> or maybe a http://www.numark.com/products/product_view.php?v=overview&n=132 23:52 < Timmaah> read a few lines up gop2 23:55 -!- garrett [n=garrett@130.57.22.69] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:59 -!- elinenbe [n=elinenbe@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Fri Aug 12 00:00:02 2005