--- Log opened Wed Jul 27 00:00:01 2005
00:00 < BleuLlama> midnight
00:00 < BleuLlama> it's raining outside
00:00 < josh_> where are the logs kept?
00:00 < virtualball_> it was here like an hour ago
00:01 < virtualball_> josh: suno
00:01 < virtualball_> *dunno
00:01 < BleuLlama> http://www.lyricsdir.com/yaz-midnight-lyrics.html
00:01 < BleuLlama>  /whois _ipodstats
00:01 < virtualball_> does anyone program apps for the ipod in here?
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00:06 < virtualball_> hello?
00:07 < aegray> of course they do
00:07 < BleuLlama> I want a commodore Pet 4032
00:07 < BleuLlama> or an 8032
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00:08 < virtualball_> oh i was just windering what "parse error" means (look, no pasting)
00:08 < aegray> means your missing something - usually a ; or { } or ( )
00:09 < virtualball_> o ok thnx, im making a pig latin onverter
00:12 < linux_insidev2> great
00:12 < linux_insidev2> how.... useful
00:13 < Vanquisher> its the thought that counts
00:13  * Vanquisher whistles
00:13 < virtualball_> lol
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00:15 < BleuLlama> POKE 59458,PEEK(59458)OR 32
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00:18 < virtualball_> ok i promise, last question.  In the Hello world example, should I compile all my apps like that?
00:18 < josh_> yes
00:19 < josh_> unless there's extra libraries or something
00:19 < virtualball_> ok thnx
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00:48 < BleuLlama> so quiet tonight
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00:51 < josh_> what do the battery digits indicate?
00:53 < BleuLlama> fullness of battery charge
00:53 < BleuLlama> same as the meter
00:53 < BleuLlama> 0 = dead, 512 = full
00:53 < josh_> ah, thought it was voltage or something
00:54 < josh_> ~battery digits are 0=dead 512=full
00:55 < BleuLlama> ~battery
00:55 < BleuLlama> is the bot here?
00:55 < josh_> ~battery digitd
00:55 < josh_> ~battery digits
00:55 < iplbot> battery digits are 0=dead 512=full
00:55 < BleuLlama> aha
00:56 < josh_> it's just (on davidc's orders) really quiet
00:56 < BleuLlama> excellent
01:01 < josh_> aegray, have you been inflating your karma?
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01:07 < chux> how do you get music to your ipod in Linux?
01:07 < Vanquisher> chux, drag it
01:07 < chux> to what folder?
01:07 < Vanquisher> umm
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01:08 < Vanquisher> why did the bot msg me
01:08 < Vanquisher> :\
01:08 < josh_> ~gtkpod is <reply> This is not a forum to ask questions about using Linux with a regular iPod.  This is the channel for *iPodLinux*, that is - linux ON an iPod.
01:08 < josh_> but to answer your question, you use a program called gtkpod.
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01:09 < chux> i cant figure that thing out at all
01:09 < chux> ive read its documents
01:09 < chux> and im still confiused
01:09 < chux> confused*
01:09 < josh_> you and about 100 other people today
01:09 < Vanquisher> rofl
01:09 < josh_> we don't necessarily know any more than you do about gtkpod
01:09 < BleuLlama> 1. find a gtkpod support group
01:09 < Vanquisher> how can u not figure that out
01:09 < BleuLlama> 2. go there.
01:09 < Vanquisher> omg
01:09 < Vanquisher> a monkey could operate that program
01:10 < chux> i go to the channel #gtkpod..but its like your the only person there
01:10 < Vanquisher> ask in #gentoo
01:10 < BleuLlama> perhaps you might want to try reading the docs.
01:10 < josh_> GIYF
01:10 < chux> i read the docs
01:10 < chux> many times
01:11  * Vanquisher doesnt see how that program is confusing
01:11 < BleuLlama> then sell your linux box and buy a mac
01:11 < chux> i see its confusing because nothing wants to write to my ipodDB
01:11 < chux> at all
01:11 < chux> i have tried and tried
01:12 < BleuLlama> is your ipod filesystem mounted read only?
01:12 < Vanquisher> rofl
01:12 < Vanquisher> omg
01:12 < Vanquisher> chux, have you mounted the ipod
01:12 < chux> i mounted it as -t vfat
01:12 < chux> its mounted
01:12 < chux> then i run gtkpod
01:12 < Vanquisher> too
01:12 < Vanquisher> what folder
01:12 < Vanquisher> ?
01:12 < BleuLlama> is it mounted read only, or read/write?
01:12 < chux> how do i tell?
01:12 < BleuLlama> if you need to ask that, give up now
01:12 < chux> i made a /mnt/ipod folder
01:13 < Vanquisher> rofl.
01:13 < BleuLlama> you now go into my elite /ignore group.  thankyou drivethrough
01:13 < Vanquisher> lol.
01:13 < chux> dude
01:13 < chux> once i know i can do this on my own..you wont have to deal with me again
01:13 < chux> i just want to get it to work
01:13 < Vanquisher> chux, i will restate this
01:14 < Vanquisher> chux, this is not a "ipod" help group
01:14 < Vanquisher> this is ipodlinux
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01:14 < chux> well then tell me how to get it in writable mode anyway
01:14 < chux> please
01:14 < josh_> okay.  go into channel #ipodlinux.flood, paste the output of "mount" there.
01:14 < aegray_> mount -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/ipod
01:14 < aegray_> then shutup
01:14 < Vanquisher> rofl
01:14 < josh_> ~gtkpod
01:14 < Vanquisher> aegray, SAVIOR!
01:15 < iplbot> This is not a forum to ask questions about using Linux with a regular iPod.  This is the channel for *iPodLinux*, that is - linux ON an iPod.
01:15 < Vanquisher> i love that bot
01:15 < Vanquisher> :)
01:15 < josh_> it seems to be under a 5-sec delay, no idea why
01:15 < A-K> can someone tell me what rofl stands for?
01:15 < chux> then why have so many people told me to come here for using a ipod in Linux help
01:15 < Vanquisher> hmm its all good
01:15 < josh_> chux: my point is that it's a common misconception
01:15 < aegray_> chux did you listen to me?
01:15 < Vanquisher> chux, because they dont want to be bothered
01:15 < josh_> ~rofl is rolling on the floor laughing
01:16 < A-K> oh
01:16 < Vanquisher> aegray, this rivials the bryan incident!
01:16 < aegray_> no it doesn't
01:16  * Vanquisher hides
01:16 < Vanquisher> aegray, that was horrible rofl
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01:16 < josh_> when was this bryan incident?
01:16 < Vanquisher> josh_, a couple weeks ago
01:16 < Vanquisher> lol
01:16 < Vanquisher> josh_, i have the log bookmarked
01:17 < Vanquisher> its quite funny
01:17 < Vanquisher> the whole thing should be a bash quote
01:17 < josh_> what day? I'll look it up.
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01:17 < chux> my ipod is mounted with (rw)
01:17 < josh_> are you root?
01:17 < chux> yeah
01:18 < josh_> mkdir -p /mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes
01:18 < josh_> then try again
01:18 < BleuLlama> take this to #ipodlinux.offtopic
01:18 < A-K> wow, they got a place for everything!
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01:19 < A-K> does anyone know the name of the font that the apple firmware uses?
01:20 < BleuLlama> yes
01:20 < josh_> Chicago and Espy Sans
01:20 < BleuLlama> it's called www.google.com
01:20 < josh_> ~fonts
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01:21 < josh_> ~fonts are... menu font: Chicago regular, Espy Sans Bold mini, Myriad photo.  text font: Espy Sans.
01:22 < BleuLlama> you like to define things backwards
01:22 < BleuLlama> i've noticed that
01:22 < BleuLlama> you did it earlier today as well
01:23 < josh_> define things backwards? huh?
01:23 < A-K> if i didn't instal the new busybox, what should podzilla say when i try to "power off"?
01:23 < josh_> can't find poweroff
01:23 < josh_> or something
01:23 < josh_> ~unsupported
01:23 < iplbot> unsupported means not supported.  Unsupported topics are not to be discussed in here.  The devs have declared those things unsupported so that they don't have to waste time to support them.  By asking about them, you are wasting the developers' time.  Take it to the forums or email the person/people who generated the item you're discussing. Piss off.
01:23 < A-K> thats not supported?
01:23 < josh_> look at the wiki page
01:23 < BleuLlama> "espy sans bold mini, myriad photo" etc...  rather than:  mini: espi sans bold, photo: myriad"
01:23 < A-K> i did earlier
01:24  * BleuLlama shrugs
01:24 < A-K> and i guess it just got added
01:24 < josh_> ah
01:24 < josh_> no, I misunderstood it
01:24 < josh_> sorryt
01:24 < Vanquisher> lol
01:24 < josh_> BleuLlama: too many colons
01:30 < courtc> no, I only have three.
01:34 < josh_> menu font: regular: ... mini: ... photo: ...      (opinion) too many colons
01:34  * courtc excercises his ocd with Planarity
01:34 < josh_> Planarity = ?
01:34 < courtc> http://home.cwru.edu/~jnt5/Planarity/
01:34 < josh_> hah
01:34 < josh_> cool
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01:45 < BleuLlama> hehe. yeah. i got up to level 16 so far
01:46  * courtc at 12
01:46  * Vanquisher beat it
01:48 < BleuLlama> there is no beat.  it continues
01:48 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, i did
01:48 < BleuLlama> how many levels then?
01:49 < Vanquisher> i went so far it ended
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01:49 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, cant you telling im making this up as we go along
01:49 < Vanquisher> :)
01:50 < BleuLlama> dude.  An auto repair place (Midas) tried to rip me off today... my BS meter is hypersensitive today.
01:50 < Vanquisher> lol
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01:50 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, explain
01:51 < BleuLlama> read this: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jerronimo/
01:51  * BleuLlama not gonna retype it all
01:51 < Vanquisher> lol
01:51 < A-K> are the new ibooks better then the powerbooks?
01:52 < BleuLlama> no. powerbooks still have more capabilities
01:52 < BleuLlama> bigger screens
01:52 < BleuLlama> etc
01:54 < courtc> screen != capability ;)
01:54 < BleuLlama> do you want me to list the differences?
01:55 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, haha wow
01:55 < A-K> pokeon, can you email me the src for your latest release of pokezilla?
01:55  * Vanquisher throws a pokeball at Pokeon 
01:55 < A-K> hahaha
01:55 < Vanquisher> :)
01:56 < BleuLlama> PIKA PIKA!
01:56 < Vanquisher> pokezilla
01:56 < Vanquisher> does it say pikachu
01:56 < Vanquisher> when u turn it on
01:56 < Vanquisher> or do anything fancy
01:56 < josh_> ~poweroff
01:56 < linux_insidev2> theres 50 in all and you gotta catch em all!
01:56 < Vanquisher> delay
01:56 < Vanquisher> linux_insidev2, right!
01:57  * Vanquisher throws the pokeball, "I CHOOSE YOU Pokeon"
01:57 < Vanquisher> fire thing atk now!
01:57 < Vanquisher> lol
01:57 < josh_> ~poweroff is <reply> poweroff beta information is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Poweroff_beta.  Please do not ask here until you read that page.  Thoroughly.
01:57 < josh_> ~poweroff
01:57 < iplbot> poweroff beta information is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Poweroff_beta.  Please do not ask here until you read that page.  Thoroughly.
01:57 < linux_insidev2> use your shinkick attack pokeon
01:57 < Vanquisher> i bet he goes off the deep end
01:57 < linux_insidev2> lol
01:58 < Vanquisher> and jumps off a bridge holding a stuffed pokemon
01:58 < Vanquisher> rofl
01:58 < Vanquisher> "screaming DIE POKEMON"
01:58 < Vanquisher> on the way down
01:58 < linux_insidev2> all 50 of them
01:58 < Vanquisher> exactly
01:58 < Vanquisher> he has a big bag
01:58 < Vanquisher> lol
01:58 < linux_insidev2> but he would die never knowing the power of the 51'st pokemon, mewtoo
01:59 < BleuLlama> okay. enough. move on
01:59 < Vanquisher> lol...
01:59 < Vanquisher> haha
01:59 < A-K> pokemon was cool when they only had 150 of them
01:59 < A-K> then they started making all these gaymon's
01:59 < linux_insidev2> woah there was 150?
01:59 < Vanquisher> true that
01:59 < Vanquisher> gaymon wtf
01:59 < Vanquisher> lol..
01:59 < A-K> *cheesy joke*
01:59 < linux_insidev2> like that thing with a plant in its back
02:00 < A-K> oh i know this one
02:00 < linux_insidev2> charmander would so pwn him
02:00 < A-K> bulbasaur
02:00 < josh_> um... that was #1 or something
02:00 < linux_insidev2> yeah
02:00 < Vanquisher> haha
02:00 < Vanquisher> man i still have the gameboy game
02:00 < Vanquisher> lol.
02:00 < linux_insidev2> it was in the jhoto league or something
02:00 < A-K> same
02:00 < A-K> i have pokemon blue
02:00 < Vanquisher> the game wasnt bad
02:00 < linux_insidev2> i used to watch it when i was in primary school
02:00 < A-K> the best and first one
02:00 < Vanquisher> the cards were stupid
02:00 < josh_> this is hilarious
02:00 < BleuLlama> conversation -> #ipodlinux.pokemon   && stfu
02:00 < Vanquisher> A-K, i have red and blue
02:00 < Vanquisher> lol
02:00 < A-K> haha
02:01 < Vanquisher> && bleullama almost got ripped off
02:01 < linux_insidev2> everyone join #ipodlinux.pokemon!
02:01 < Vanquisher> SURE!
02:01 < Vanquisher> && JOIN
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02:02 < josh_> ~join #ipodlinux.pokemon
02:02 < josh_> ~tell #ipodlinux.pokemon Leave now and save your sanity!
02:02 < josh_> ~part #ipodlinux.pokemon
02:02 < linux_insidev2> <iplbot> You aren't allowed to do that..
02:02 < linux_insidev2> hahaha
02:02 < Vanquisher> haha
02:02 < linux_insidev2> ur bots a failure
02:02 < Vanquisher> owned by your bot
02:03 < linux_insidev2> just like jhoto league
02:03 < Vanquisher> ur bot is adapting
02:03 < josh_> in that channel it said that?
02:03 < linux_insidev2> yeah
02:03 < Vanquisher> growing smarter
02:03 < Vanquisher> it is AI
02:03 < BleuLlama> spell out your words please.
02:03 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, why
02:03 < A-K> o love it when iplbot leaves and it says "i was asked to leave"
02:03 < A-K> haha what a tool
02:03 < linux_insidev2> ~leave
02:03 < Vanquisher> lol
02:03 < josh_> ~voices
02:03 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj >
02:03 < linux_insidev2> lol
02:04 < josh_> I don't see "linux_insidev2" there.
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02:04 < linux_insidev2> lol
02:04 < linux_insidev2> you will
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02:04 < josh_> ~join #ipodlinux.pokemon
02:04 < josh_> ~tell #ipodlinux.pokemon say Leave now and save your sanity!
02:04 < josh_> ~part #ipodlinux.pokemon
02:04 < iplbot> #ipodlinux.pokemon, Leave now and save your sanity!
02:04 < josh_> grrrr
02:04 < Vanquisher> rofl
02:05 < Vanquisher> josh_, ur bot isnt listening
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02:05 < aegray> ~leave
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02:06 < linux_insidev2> he needs to check ident :P
02:06 < Luke> hey no bots in here
02:06 < Luke> sorry josh_ 
02:06 < josh_> ok
02:06 < linux_insidev2> but iplbot pwns
02:06 < Vanquisher> yeah!
02:06 < Vanquisher> it owns
02:06 < josh_> it started about 2 days ago...
02:07 < linux_insidev2> i managed to make him leave
02:07 < josh_> (vanquisher: you're not helping)
02:07 < linux_insidev2> how cool is that!
02:07 < linux_insidev2> seriously though
02:07 < Vanquisher> josh_, :(
02:07 < josh_> linux_insidev2: you aren't either.
02:07 < linux_insidev2> he helps the devs answer questions with a quick fligh of the wrist
02:07 < BleuLlama> YAY! You inhibited something useful.  i bet you feel accomplished now.
02:07 < BleuLlama> (that was to linux_insidev2)
02:07 < Luke> josh_: its nothing personal - its just a rule we have now because of past situations
02:07 < josh_> okay
02:08 < linux_insidev2> i was pointing out a security hole
02:08 < josh_> how long ago were the past situations?
02:08 < BleuLlama> you don't point out security holes by exploiting them.  you tell someone.
02:08 < Luke> josh_: a couple months ago
02:08 < josh_> ah okay
02:08 < A-K> what happens if theres bots?
02:08 < josh_> a couple days ago one of the devs started iplbot to help answer silly questions
02:08 < josh_> I wrote my own version, improved it slightly.
02:08 < A-K> but whats wrong with bots?
02:09 < Luke> they flood up the channel for one thing
02:10 < josh_> them, or people talking about/trying to use them?
02:11 < Luke> both
02:11 < Luke> it just causes a lot of cruft
02:11 < josh_> understood
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02:13 < Luke> the problem we had before was that someone made a bot that flood joined the channel and then said that they were only testing it. It could also have been a form of an attack but just to avoid confusion we just dont allow bots. Keeps people from getting banned.
02:14 < josh_> I see.
02:15 < davidc___> in any case
02:15 < davidc___> finish it in another chan
02:15 < davidc___> then we'll look at it
02:15 < josh_> ok
02:15 < josh_> #ipodlinux.bot
02:17 < aegray_> davidc___ is there an asm mod op?
02:18 < davidc___> aegray_: in which assembler?
02:18 < aegray_> arm
02:18 < davidc___> aegray_: and what do you need to mod by?
02:18 < aegray_> the buffer length for the audio buffer
02:18 < josh_> make it a power of 2 and use &
02:18 < davidc___> er, try to make it a ^ of 2
02:18 < davidc___> and use &
02:18 < davidc___> :P
02:19 < aegray_> you just and it by the value?
02:19 < josh_> if your buffer is 0x1000 bytes long, and with 0xfff.
02:19 < josh_> value - 1
02:19 < davidc___> yea.
02:19 < aegray_> ok cool
02:19 < aegray_> thanks
02:20 < davidc___> but that'll only work for powers of 2
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02:20 < aegray_> for other powers is it just a cmp and branch?
02:20 < davidc___> look @ the div ops
02:20 < davidc___> there might be something
02:20 < aegray_> k
02:20 < davidc___> but you're prolly faster off with a cmp and a suble
02:20 < davidc___> just use the conditional execution codes on the sub
02:20 < davidc___> its faster than a branch
02:20 < davidc___> no pipeline stall
02:21 < josh_> div on x86 puts the quotient in one register and remainder in another, is there anything like that on arm?
02:21 < davidc___> josh_  there is, but we're just using this to loop thru a buffer
02:21 < davidc___> its faster to do it with a cmp and a suble
02:21 < josh_> ah
02:21 < davidc___> a div is a much longer op
02:21 < josh_> yeah
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02:22 < aegray_> so cmp x, buflen
02:23 < aegray_> suble x, x, buflen ?
02:23 < aegray_> whoops - buflen first in the first one
02:23 < davidc__[2]> something like that
02:23 < aegray_> k
02:23 < davidc__[2]> it mighta been sublt
02:23 < davidc__[2]> I can't remember the exact condition code
02:23 < aegray_> thnx
02:23 < josh_> sublt
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02:46 < A-K> can i ask a question about the power off beta?
02:46 < aegray_> yes
02:47 < A-K> nikosapi, do you use windows?
02:47 < A-K> because i tried the power off busy box update with no success, but i'll try again
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02:49 < A-K> if i were to change the start file in the busybox update
02:49 < A-K> from mv /hp/rc /etc/rc
02:50 < A-K> to cp /hp/rc /etc/rc, would it make a difference?
02:50 < A-K> i don't think it would
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02:57 < Pokeon> it woudlnt... it shouldnt
03:00 < Nikosapi> sorry, im back and yes I have a windows comp
03:01 < Nikosapi> and no, as Pokeon said there shouldn't be a difference cp = copy, mv = move
03:03 < Nikosapi> what gen is your ipod A-K?
03:03 < A-K> pokeon, in your build, how did you change it so that when selecting fonts, the font load instatly, instead of having to quit podzilla?
03:03 < A-K> i got it to work
03:03 < Nikosapi> ohh kool
03:03 < A-K> it didn't work cause i was using futureyanks build
03:03 < BleuLlama> that's an update in the CVS that courtc put in i believe.
03:03 < Nikosapi> you need a font.lst file in the /usr/share/fonts dir
03:03 < A-K> he tries to modify things he doesn't know of
03:04 < A-K> thats not what i meant
03:04 < Nikosapi> as well as all your fonts
03:04 < BleuLlama> he changed it to use the global GC i believe
03:04 < Nikosapi> hun?
03:04 < A-K> oh
03:04  * BleuLlama afk for a few
03:05 < A-K> you know what site i hate so bad?
03:05 < A-K> ipodhacks
03:06 < Nikosapi> i've never been, time to google...
03:06 < A-K> its so noobish i want to cry
03:07 < Nikosapi> ewww first page: ugly layout and too many ads
03:07 < A-K> the forums are crowded with people asking for free ipods/ asking how to load songs through itunes
03:07 < A-K> haha
03:08 < A-K> i have a question for BleuLlama
03:09 < Nikosapi> haha
03:09 < A-K> why did you make poddraw so that it has a black backround?
03:09 < Nikosapi> hey if I want to donate but don't have a credit card, how would I go about doing that?
03:10 < aegray_> paypal - you can use a check
03:10 < Nikosapi> really, I'll check that out
03:10 < A-K> can you use bank cards in paypal?
03:10 < aegray_> i think
03:10 < Nikosapi> i don't know
03:10 < Nikosapi> i'll check
03:10 < A-K> haha, my check is going to bounce
03:10 < aegray_> as long as you have a bank account number your good iirc
03:11 < Nikosapi> lol boing!
03:11 < A-K> hahaha
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03:13 < A-K> hey, did anybody know (except for the devs), that you can change the backround colour in poddraw?
03:13 < Nikosapi> yes
03:14 < A-K> dammit
03:14 < Nikosapi> play i think
03:14 < Nikosapi> heh
03:14 < A-K> well for me, play alone doesn't do it
03:14 < A-K> i have to hit ff then play
03:15 < Pokeon> A-k; Sorry I didnt notice anyone was talking to me...  Im nto sure what you mean by the whoel font thing
03:16 < A-K> like when you select a font, usually podzilla would tell you that you have to quit podzilla in order to use the font after you selected it
03:16 < A-K> but in your build you don't
03:16 < A-K> it just says "font selected" and your dont
03:16 < A-K> *done
03:16 < Pokeon> Ohhh... I thought you meant it did... and I was all wtf
03:17 < Nikosapi> i don't have to quit podzilla in my build...
03:17 < A-K> how did you do it?
03:17 < Pokeon> its part of the CVS
03:17 < A-K> it is?
03:17 < Pokeon> I beleive so
03:17 < A-K> oh it must have changed since i last used a nightly
03:18 < Nikosapi> most likely because I didn't do anything special
03:19 < A-K> haha
03:19 < Pokeon> lol
03:19 < A-K> so nikosapi, can you make paypal donations with a bank card?
03:20 < Nikosapi> ya i just did it
03:20 < Nikosapi> but if your in canada you have to wait 6-8 days for the money to become avialable
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03:21 < Nikosapi> when I have the money I'll donate what I can, I don't have a job... yet!
03:22 < davidc__[2]> Nikosapi: its ok.. we're not pressed for donations :P
03:22 < davidc__[2]> the donations just go  towards buying new ipods to program on
03:22 < davidc__[2]> and AFAIK, we have one of each spread around us now
03:22 < Nikosapi> ya, but I'd better do it while I'm in the mood
03:22 < Nikosapi> ohh that's good to know
03:23 < Nikosapi> well how about the new color ipods?
03:23 < davidc__[2]> eh, they're just ipod photo's with a new name
03:23 < A-K> hahah, www.paypalsucks.com
03:23 < Nikosapi> oh, so it's the same chipset?
03:23 < A-K> but were all waiting upon the 5G
03:23 < A-K> well i am at least
03:23 < davidc__[2]> Nikosapi: exactly the same as far as we know.
03:24 < Nikosapi> there was a post in the forums
03:24 < Nikosapi> let me find it
03:24 < Nikosapi> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2907
03:24 < A-K> theres several of them
03:24 < Nikosapi> ahhh
03:24 < davidc__[2]> yeah, as I said, its the same as the photo
03:25 < Nikosapi> excelent
03:25 < BleuLlama> yes. we discussed this before.   assert( "color ipod" == "ipod photo" )
03:26 < davidc__[2]> ASSERTION FAILED: "color ipod" == "ipod photo"
03:26 < BleuLlama> heh
03:26 < davidc__[2]> BleuLlama: 1, you can't compare strings with ==, and two, they're different strings :P
03:27 < A-K> oh man, so many of my friends got a 20GB 4G grayscale right before apple came out with the 'colour' ipod
03:27 < aegray_> davidc__ you wanna take a look at a piece of code for me?
03:28 < davidc__[2]> aegray_: shoot.
03:29 < aegray_> k hold on
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03:39 < BleuLlama> the instructions on Poweroff_beta for OSX are incorrect
03:42 < BleuLlama> all i get at boot now are "bad inittab entry" for all inittab entries
03:42 < aegray_> what inittab entries do you have?
03:42 < BleuLlama> -> .flood
03:43 < linux_inside_v2> it would be the filesystem type
03:43 < linux_inside_v2> i think
03:44 < linux_inside_v2> i dont know who it was but i didnt make osx instructions in the wiki entry
03:52 < BleuLlama> your name is on all versions of the file.
03:52 < BleuLlama> well, all initial versions anyway
03:52 < linux_inside_v2> yeah read the 3 modifications
03:52 < Nikosapi> is C++ similar to C, or are they completely different?
03:52 < linux_inside_v2> i did them for linux
03:52 < linux_inside_v2> and they worked for me
03:53 < linux_inside_v2> what are you using to edit your files?
03:53 < aegray_> lol
03:53 < linux_inside_v2> are you saving with the unix encoding or mac?
03:53 < BleuLlama> i was editing them with microsoft word
03:54 < linux_inside_v2> hahahaha
03:54 < linux_inside_v2> that would do it
03:54 < BleuLlama> what? i'm saving it out as rtf... 
03:54 < linux_inside_v2> ...
03:54 < BleuLlama> not .doc.  i mean... duh
03:54 < linux_inside_v2> it needs to be a normal txt file with unix encoding 
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03:55 < BleuLlama> thanks, georgie
03:55 < linux_inside_v2> *sigh*
03:56 < BleuLlama> oh cool. the charge indicator is blinking with firewire... nice job, aegray. :D
03:56 < aegray_> yep
03:56 < aegray_> thanks!
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04:00 < linux_inside_v2> so the guide doesnt work for osx?
04:00 < BleuLlama> no. it's incomplete.
04:01 < linux_inside_v2> what does it need added?
04:01 < BleuLlama> you need to add /bin/podzilla onto the end of rc, and the first inittab line doesn't work
04:01 < aegray_> its ::sysinit:/etc/rc
04:01 < BleuLlama> yep
04:01 < linux_inside_v2> yeah i just realised that
04:01 < BleuLlama> not the sysvinit:/etc  
04:01 < linux_inside_v2> sorry about that
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04:03 < linux_inside_v2> updated
04:03 < BleuLlama> it's a bummer. i liked podzilla in init instead of in rc.  quitting podzilla doesn't restart it anymore. :(
04:03 < aegray_> just do while[] or whatever
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04:03 < BleuLlama> yeah.
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04:04 < linux_inside_v2> i think i was at work when i wrote it lol
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04:06 < linux_inside_v2> is there anything else?
04:06 < BleuLlama> i think that was it
04:07 < linux_inside_v2> cool
04:07 < linux_inside_v2> i havent heard back from anyone using the windows installer so that must be good
04:07 < linux_inside_v2> i tested it on mine by doing a windows install of ipodlinux then running the installer and it all went good
04:08 < linux_inside_v2> i love being able to switch between my copy of ipodlinux and one installed from windows with a quick "dd" command
04:09 < Decipher> Hey aegray_, how'd things go?
04:09 < aegray_> sucky
04:11 < Decipher> Yeah? Hit a snag? No good.
04:11 < aegray_> its going to take some asm...
04:12 < Decipher> Dang, sounds like fun... Anyway, thought I'd say hi... better get back to work before I get busted.
04:12 < aegray_> lol
04:12 < Vanquisher> aegray_, that gameboy stuff for the ipod was cool
04:13 < aegray_> cool
04:13 < Vanquisher> aegray_, looks good on the color
04:13 < Vanquisher> (:
04:13 < aegray_> hehe
04:14 < Vanquisher> aegray_, so u got the ipod to charge with firewire(scrolled up)....nice man!
04:14 < aegray_> it always did afaik
04:15 < aegray_> i didn't do anything
04:15 < josh_> it didn't show it till now
04:15 < Vanquisher> right..
04:15 < BleuLlama> yeah. it always did, it just didn't indicate so
04:15 < Vanquisher> but it blinks!
04:15 < aegray_> are you sure BleuLlama?
04:15 < aegray_> mine always did :/
04:15 < linux_inside_v2> does it stop blinking at full charge?
04:15 < BleuLlama> i put in the visualizations on it.
04:16 < aegray_> oh ok
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04:16 < aegray_> my favorite is still the usb detect.  Its making my life so much better
04:17 < linux_inside_v2> thats one of my favourites too
04:17 < Nikosapi> ya i love the "go to disk mode" 
04:17 < Nikosapi> how is that done?
04:17 < aegray_> magic
04:17 < BleuLlama> yeah.  usb detect still not working for me
04:17 < Nikosapi> you sound like my father
04:18 < josh_> aegray: it can usb detect? go to disk mode? wow.
04:19 < Nikosapi> how do you tell the ipod to boot into disk mode in ipl? (how did you guys do it)
04:19 < aegray_> its code directly from diag mode
04:19 < aegray_>  leachbj = amazing
04:19 < BleuLlama> sourceforge is down?
04:19 < Nikosapi> interesting
04:19 < BleuLlama> my cvs update is just hanging out
04:19 < BleuLlama> :(
04:20 < Nikosapi> what r you updating?
04:21 < BleuLlama> podzilla
04:21 < BleuLlama> are*
04:21 < courtc> you just have to write diskmode to a specific place in ram and reboot iirc
04:21 < aegray_> mines hanging too :/
04:21 < courtc> "diskmode"
04:22 < aegray_> "diskmode" and "hotstuff"
04:22 < aegray_> and 0
04:22 < aegray_> no - 1
04:22 < linux_inside_v2> hotstuff?
04:22 < Nikosapi> sorry i understood wrong, nm bleu...
04:22 < aegray_> yea
04:22 < linux_inside_v2> excuse my ignorance, but what is hotstuff?
04:23 < aegray_> just a string
04:23 < linux_inside_v2> ic
04:23 < linux_inside_v2> derp
04:23 < BleuLlama> YAY! finally went through
04:23 < Nikosapi> it's a flakey pastry, similar to a pizza pocket.
04:24 < Nikosapi> lol, i have no idea either
04:24 < aegray_> BleuLlama: it did?
04:24 < aegray_> hmm
04:24 < BleuLlama> i let it sit for a few minutes, and eventually it did
04:24 < aegray_> weird
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04:24 < courtc> I might've accidentally rejected a patches@ email from jonrelay. :/
04:25 < aegray_> you can reject?
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04:25 < Nikosapi> :( why hasn't podwrite been added to the cvs? if you don't mind me asking....
04:26 < aegray_> what?
04:26 < aegray_> it has
04:26 < courtc> yea.. I keep the ml clean.. I have to approve each new email addr
04:26 < aegray_> oh podwrite
04:26 < Nikosapi> ya
04:26 < aegray_> courtc: ok
04:26 < aegray_> Nikosapi: text input would have to be added then
04:26 < aegray_> Nikosapi: its a rather large patch and it might have problems
04:26 < aegray_> Nikosapi: so it can't just be "thrown" in
04:26 < Nikosapi> ohhh
04:27 < Nikosapi> I see
04:27  * aegray_ pretends he knows what he's talking about
04:27 < Nikosapi> lol
04:27 < courtc> the messages over 40kB get moderated.. and seeing how jonrelay keeps sending huge patches in.. I upped the limit to 256kB
04:28 < josh_> which mailing list is this?
04:28 < aegray_> the patches mailing list
04:28 < BleuLlama> patches@....
04:28 < josh_> ah
04:28 < Nikosapi> well, gd'night everyone
04:28 < Nikosapi> bye
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04:29 < aegray_> BleuLlama: haha wow - all of the sudden cvs just hit after like 3 minutes
04:29 < aegray_> scared me :/
04:29 < BleuLlama> hehe
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04:54  * aegray_ *cough* *cough*
04:55 < josh_> what?
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05:09 < aegray_> hey evil
05:09 < EvilDude> 'lo
05:10 < EvilDude> _ now?
05:10 < aegray_> i'm screening through another server for fun
05:10 < aegray_> so yea
05:10 < EvilDude> ah
05:10 < EvilDude> You bored?
05:10 < aegray_> frustrated is more like it
05:10 < aegray_> why?
05:10 < EvilDude> Wanna write up a few chem practical things to study off for me :P
05:11 < aegray_> chem practical?
05:11 < EvilDude> Chemistry experiments*
05:11 < EvilDude> (I think we say things crazy in Australia)
05:11 < aegray_> haha like I know how to do that
05:11 < EvilDude> heh no idea what a titration is then i assume :P?
05:11 < aegray_> i've done it, but i forgot it the next day
05:12 < aegray_> I only retain things one day at a time.  That's why I do so well in school cramming
05:12 < EvilDude> haha
05:12 < aegray_> good luck with that guy
05:12 < EvilDude> yeah i should study
05:13 < EvilDude> but my damn computer is having a spastic
05:13 < aegray_> but #ipodlinux draws you in...
05:15 < aegray_> anyone know how I declare in my .c file a reference to a label in a .S file?
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05:16 < aegray_> why do i bother asking when leachbj and davidc aren't here...
05:16 < meatmanek> extern?
05:16 < aegray_> yea but do i just declare it as a function?
05:17 < meatmanek> probably.
05:17 < aegray_> k
05:19 < josh_> aegray_: extern void label(); will direct to _label:
05:19 < aegray_> ok
05:20 < josh_> anyone who wants to test a bot, go to #ipodlinux.bot
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05:27 < EvilDude9> Back, after windows decided to kill me =\
05:28 < aegray_> its the 9th reincarnation of evildude...
05:28 < aegray_> agh!
05:28 < EvilDude9> haha
05:28 < EvilDude9> i miss anything :P
05:28 < aegray_> yea there was a party
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05:28 < aegray_> but the cops broke it up
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05:28 < EvilDude> haha damn!
05:28 < EvilDude> How's the video player going?
05:28 < aegray_> shutup!
05:28 < aegray_> no j
05:28 < aegray_> k
05:29 < aegray_> i've decided the only way anything is going to work is if i start writing stuff in asm
05:29 < EvilDude> haha not so good them i take it
05:29 < EvilDude> :| really?
05:29 < joshk> aegray_: you're willing to exchange your sanity for a fast video player?
05:29 < EvilDude> doesnt sound like much fun
05:29 < aegray_> yea and 30 lines of asm have screwed me tonight
05:29 < aegray_> joshk: yes
05:29 < EvilDude> haha why what's wrong with c ?
05:29 < aegray_> joshk: i'll trade my soul to some Evil Guy for a fast video player
05:29 < joshk> i love these dollar coins
05:29 < aegray_> EvilDude!
05:29 < EvilDude> haha
05:29 < joshk> i just wish caltrain wouldn't give me 13 at a time
05:30 < joshk> better than 52 quarters i guess
05:30 < aegray_> EvilDude: I can better optimize the fiq to do some stuff with asm
05:30 < josh_> fiq = ?
05:30 < aegray_> fiq = fast interrupt = pin on processor that fires interrupt that interrupts anything when the pin goes high
05:30 < josh_> ah
05:31 < aegray_> and we set it up so the audio card fires it when it's fifo is empty
05:31  * aegray_ spouts buzzwords
05:31 < josh_> I see
05:31 < EvilDude> haha
05:31 < josh_> (but understandable buzzwords)
05:31 < EvilDude> thats what i get to do in my exam tomorrow :P
05:31 < aegray_> haha
05:31 < aegray_> its summer
05:31 < josh_> so is C too high-level or too slow?
05:31 < aegray_> why do you have school?
05:31 < EvilDude> because it's winter here :P
05:31 < A-K> haha
05:32 < aegray_> little bita both - i'm trying to make it use a special set of registers that don't have to be saved
05:32 < aegray_> and only use registers when it can
05:32 < aegray_> to minimize writes
05:32 < aegray_> and reads
05:32 < josh_> ok
05:32 < aegray_> but i can't even get the original fiq running (translated in asm) right now
05:32 < aegray_> :/
05:32 < josh_> so you're writing the interrupt handler that pushes a new bunch of data to the sound card?
05:32 < aegray_> i blame EvilDude 
05:32 < aegray_> yea pretty much
05:32 < EvilDude> It's my evil radiation :(
05:32 < josh_> the fiq handler worked in C?
05:32 < aegray_> damn straight
05:33 < EvilDude> (I had an exam oh physics yesterday :P)
05:33 < EvilDude> so I will use many chemistry or physics buzzwords :D
05:33 < aegray_> josh_: yea but if you look at the code, its written with a lot inside the loop that should be taken out
05:33 < aegray_> so it hogs a LOT of the cop
05:33 < aegray_> (when audio is playing)
05:33 < josh_> then optimize the C first, make sure that keeps working
05:33 < josh_> then just objdump -d and optimize the resulting asm
05:33 < aegray_> yea - i just figured I'd kill two birds with one stone
05:33 < aegray_> true
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05:34 < josh_> two birds with one stone = more possibility for error
05:34 < aegray_> yea true. it also = learning for me which is good
05:34 < aegray_> but you're right
05:34  * aegray_ tries it
05:34 < josh_> me too
05:37 < EvilDude> my last assignment for EVER :D till uni =\
05:37 < aegray_> just wait uni is worse
05:37 < aegray_> does the water spin backwards there?
05:38 < A-K> hahahaha
05:38 < EvilDude> haha yes!
05:38 < A-K> those drunken aussies...
05:38 < EvilDude> we live in the backwards world :D
05:38 < A-K> haha
05:39 < A-K> so what time is it there right now?
05:39 < EvilDude> 3:40 PM
05:39 < A-K> 1:39 am where i am
05:39 < aegray_> silly mountain time
05:39 < EvilDude> hehe, yeah 3:39 actually :P
05:39 < A-K> haha
05:40 < EvilDude> heh sounds about right, the time is 3:40 exactly as i said that : [15:40:00] <EvilDude> hehe, yeah 3:39 actually :P
05:40 < aegray_> EvilDude = liar!
05:40 < EvilDude> :'(
05:40 < A-K> 1:40 and 30 secs
05:40 < aegray_> i'll never trust you ever again
05:40 < EvilDude> haha didnt your mummy tell you not to trust evil dudes anyway! :O
05:40 < josh_> (22:39:39) EvilDude: hehe, yeah 3:39 actually :P
05:40 < josh_> that's atomic clock time
05:41 < EvilDude> ah so i THINK i'm lrying but i actually tell the truth!
05:41 < EvilDude> lying*
05:41 < josh_> no, you're lying, it was 22:39:39 not 15:40:00
05:41 < EvilDude> that's just my computer, it lies a lot, it runs on windows after all
05:42 < josh_> ok then
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05:43 < aegray_> amen
05:44 < aegray_> ~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp180...
05:44 < aegray_> hehe
05:44 < EvilDude> hahaha
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05:44 < EvilDude> (s)he comes on irc :| ?
05:44 < aegray_> i guess
05:45 < EvilDude> so quiet
05:45 < EvilDude> i would have expected a bit more talk from someone with so many posts on forum :P
05:45 < aegray_> haha
05:45 < aegray_> josh_ = good idea
05:46 < josh_> did it work?
05:46 < EvilDude> it's working then i assume :)
05:46 < aegray_> i mean it works with the base function
05:46 < aegray_> question..
05:46 < aegray_> if i do this:
05:46 < aegray_> void a() {}   void b() {}
05:46 < aegray_> will it be like asm:  a:  stuff  b: stuff ?
05:47 < josh_> _a: stuff   _b: stuff
05:47 < aegray_> so i can say that b is the location of the end of a?
05:47 < josh_> _b is the location of the end of _a, plus some padding (on x86 it's to 16 bytes, I don't know about arm.)
05:47 < aegray_> k
05:47 < aegray_> as long as its around there
05:50 < aegray_> sweet
05:52 < aegray_> oh you have no idea how ugly this compiled c code is
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05:58 < josh_> compile it without -O
05:58 < josh_> -O makes it... weird.
05:59 < aegray_> lol podzilla isn't compiled with -O
05:59 < josh_> oh
06:00 < aegray_> whoops - got a new problem - i have _a: stuff, _b: stuff but a uses ldr x, =someval, so the someval has to be defined somewhere
06:00 < aegray_> hmm
06:01 < josh_> could you send me the asm file?
06:01 < aegray_> it's pretty messy
06:01 < aegray_> but hold on
06:01 < aegray_> wait - my asm or the audiofiq asm?
06:02 < josh_> whichever one you want me to look at
06:02 < aegray_> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/aegray/fiq.S
06:02 < aegray_> haha thers some garbage in there
06:02 < aegray_> a half completed line i was typing when you asked
06:03 < josh_> lol
06:03 < josh_> add r1, r1, 
06:03 < aegray_> ya
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06:04 < aegray_> gee... who could this be
06:04 < josh_> what condition code is "cc"?
06:04 < aegray_> conditional carry?
06:04 < josh_> ah
06:04 < aegray_> i don't know arm asm very well
06:04 < josh_> nor I, as you can tell
06:04 < aegray_> carry = if arithmetic op overflows/carrys right?
06:04 < josh_> correct
06:04 < aegray_> whats the other c for?
06:05 < josh_> conditional carry, I guess
06:05 < josh_> like CF on x86
06:05 < aegray_> dunno x86 asm either :/
06:05 < josh_> there's a guy in #osdev (geist) who does a bunch of work with arm asm, and he starts talking about it every so often
06:05 < josh_> that's how I know anything at all about it :P
06:05 < aegray_> hehe
06:07 < josh_> where's the C code for the fiq handler?
06:07 < aegray_> linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/audio.c
06:07 < aegray_> ipodaudio_process_pb_dma
06:09 < josh_> great
06:10 < aegray_> ok tell me why the following line doesn't work:  memcpy((void*)0x40015020, fiq_handler, (int)(fiq_handler_end - fiq_handler));
06:11 < aegray_> ((void *)(0x40015020))();
06:11 < aegray_> but works if i do it with the c code version
06:11 < josh_> that is the c code version
06:12 < Dantheman> why do you guys have _ at the end of your name?
06:12 < josh_> me: josh was already taken
06:12 < aegray_> why do you have a different name?
06:12 < josh_> aegray: he's logged in somewhere else
06:12 < aegray_> ~nickometer
06:12 < aegray_> aegray_ is 35% lame
06:13 < josh_> mine's 40% (I did the math manually)
06:13 < Dantheman> ??
06:14 < aegray_> ~nickometer Dantheman
06:14 < aegray_> Dantheman is 100% lame
06:14 < josh_> actually, it would call it 0%
06:14 < aegray_> boo
06:14 < aegray_> i have my own algorithm
06:14 < EvilDude> haha
06:14 < EvilDude> Is mine 100% lame too :P
06:14 < aegray_> no yours is 20% because it has the word dude in it
06:14 < EvilDude> haha
06:15 < aegray_> the only 0% name is completely random characters
06:15 < aegray_> and of course mizdawgs
06:15 < EvilDude> I know how to trick the algorithm!
06:15 < EvilDude> new name: EvlDd :P
06:15 < aegray_> the algorithm accounts for lame tricks
06:15 < aegray_> and adds lameness %
06:15 < EvilDude> the algorithm thinks it's random! and people think so too! :P
06:15 < EvilDude> hahaha damn
06:15 < EvilDude> *keeps EvilDude*
06:15 < aegray_> ~EvlDd is 900% lame
06:15 < EvilDude> haha
06:16 < EvilDude> reminds me, what hapenned to iplbot :(
06:16 < EvilDude> he didnt last very long did he
06:16 < EvilDude> (or was it a she :P)
06:16 < aegray_> he dead
06:16 < josh_> Luke temporarirly overruled him, until he's fixed.
06:16 < EvilDude> ah
06:16 < josh_> if you want to test him, join #ipodlinux.bot.
06:16 < aegray_> she was a good time, but the sex wasn't worth the nagging
06:16 < EvilDude> haha
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06:20 < aegray_> that guy sleeps alot
06:20 < EvilDude> hahaha
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06:24 < Luke> the bot isnt completely overruled. Just dont want it in here until testing is over and it works correctly
06:24 < aegray_> objection sustained...
06:25 < Luke> =p
06:26 < EvilDude> ah
06:26 < josh_> note: I said "temporarily overruled" - "temporarily" as in "until it works right"
06:27 < Luke> yea
06:27  * aegray_ confused
06:27 < aegray_> Luke talks and josh_ repeats it in a note:?
06:27 < Luke> hehe
06:27 < aegray_> josh_ = Lukebot?
06:28  * EvilDude has to go and actually do work, damn #ipodlinux and its gravitational attraction :(
06:28 < aegray_> come to us!
06:28 < Luke> you can not escape!
06:28 < EvilDude> i swear irc has to be one of the best ways to procrastinate
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06:28 < EvilDude> :O
06:28 < josh_> note:I said means *I* said -- earlier -- as in: sorry for the confusion, evildude
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06:29 < aegray_> gah
06:29 < josh_> something is wrong with c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net
06:29 < EvilDude> anyway bbl   well i'd rather not be, instead actually do work for all these exams
06:29 < EvilDude> but i know i'll be back :(
06:29 < aegray_> why?
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06:29 < EvilDude> why as in why do i come back or why do work :P
06:30 < aegray_> why?
06:30 < EvilDude> because i have to do well :(
06:30 < aegray_> why?
06:30 < EvilDude> so i can get into uni =\
06:30 < aegray_> why?
06:30  * aegray_ done
06:30 < EvilDude> heh
06:30 < josh_> aegray_: stop it with your Socratic method, he's getting annoyed
06:30 < EvilDude> anyway bbl
06:31 < josh_> what actually executes the start script?
06:31 < aegray_> i thought rc did
06:32 < josh_> oremanj@xenon /mnt/ipod/etc % grep start rc
06:32 < josh_> zsh: 31226 exit 1     grep start rc
06:32 < aegray_> ok...
06:32 < josh_> is there an INITRD or something?
06:32 < aegray_> i think
06:32 < aegray_> busybox does a lot of stuff
06:32 < josh_> because supposedly start scripts access stuff under /hp, and there's no /hp.
06:33 < josh_> not that - none of its strings contain "hp"
06:33 < aegray_> dunno - maybe an fstab?
06:34 < josh_> I'll see...
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07:09 < pathal> anyone home?
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07:11 < pathal> help! why do I get cvs error: move away foobar; it is in the way ?  
07:11 < pathal> trying to update my podzilla
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07:26 < Prot> any quick way to shut down an ipod?
07:26 < Prot> I told it to sleep one time, 4 days later the battery was dead
07:28 < Pokeon> You can do it into iPL if you have all the right stuff
07:28 < linux_inside_v2> www.ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta
07:31 < Prot> another question, does ipl charge ipod through usb?
07:31 < josh_> with newest kernel and podzilla, yes.
07:32 < Prot> cause the strange thing is, while the battery was dead, podzilla reported it as ful
07:32 < Prot> full
07:36 < linux_inside_v2> must have been an old kernel or something
07:37 < Prot> guess latest means within the last week?
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07:39 < linux_inside_v2> dunno
07:39 < linux_inside_v2> how did you install it?
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09:14 < Dantheman> i know where the bug with the cursor not showing up is in tuxchess, but my C skillz aren't good enough to fix it lol
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09:29 < Dantheman> lol i tried to fix the bug but i failed.
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09:41 < sudiv10> but you've tried and that's gr8)
09:42 < Dantheman> haha
09:43 < Dantheman> i made my first program. w00t. (all it does is it greets you, then every time you scroll right it += to a counter and everytime you scroll left it -= to a counter, then displays a counter...) i know its simple but im happy
09:44 < josh_> I did too :P  http://www.get-linux.org/~html/number
09:44 < josh_> wait
09:44 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/number
09:45 < Dantheman> lol ill check it out i guess
09:45 < disident> what's new in kernel and pozilla?
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10:09 < dansm> how do programs work without actually seeing the refresh rate? like, in calc, i noticed that there was no refresh timer, and that there is no visual frame stutter
10:10 < dansm> actually i get it, dont worry
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11:10 < ballistix> can someone give me some quick help please?
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11:13 < Z_Man> ballistix, maybe
11:13 < Z_Man> depends
11:13 < hyarion> ballistix- what's the problem?
11:13 < Prot> waiting until someone says 'yes' kinda kills the objective of quick help
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11:14 < DiffZ> hi people :)
11:14 < Z_Man> hi
11:14 < DiffZ> anyone here who tried to put ipodlinux on there mini and made a backup of the mbr and firmware partition (using dd)?
11:15 < DiffZ> i would really like to have those files
11:15 < ballistix> if i had used linux i would share them with you
11:15 < petemc> you cant use the apple provided restore app?
11:16 < hyarion> don't ask for firmwares!
11:16 < DiffZ> no :)
11:16 < petemc> why not?
11:16 < DiffZ> because the disc is empty
11:16 < ballistix> lol firmwareZ
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11:17 < DiffZ> the original disc died
11:17 < Z_Man> ahahaha
11:17 < Z_Man> your screwed
11:18 < Z_Man> well
11:18 < Z_Man> i dunno
11:18 < DiffZ> well i'm gonna buy a new one anyway
11:18 < DiffZ> but i want to get the old one up and running again
11:18 < Z_Man> Diffz, i dont blame you, they're expensive
11:18 < Prot> firmware goes on a partition?
11:18 < Z_Man> Prot....
11:18 < DiffZ> and an image of the original firmware partition would be nice
11:19 < Prot> can not you just download the firmware updater from apple?
11:19 < hyarion> DiffZ- why not download the updater from apples website
11:19 < hyarion> :)
11:19 < Prot> jinx
11:19 < DiffZ> well
11:19 < DiffZ> there's a problem
11:19 < Prot> ipod-> usb hd mode
11:19 < Z_Man> DiffZ, what kind of problem?
11:19 < DiffZ> it reboots everytime
11:19 < Prot> is there a symbol?
11:19 < Z_Man> get it into disk mode
11:19 < Z_Man> gosh
11:20 < DiffZ> its starts discmode and reboots
11:20 < Z_Man> oh
11:20 < Z_Man> not good
11:20 < Prot> no symbol?
11:20 < DiffZ> well
11:20 < Prot> plug it into the wall (not a usb on computer, but a wall plugin)
11:20 < Prot> see what happens then
11:20 < DiffZ> it tries discmode and reboots
11:20 < Prot> try the wall
11:21 < DiffZ> yeah
11:21 < DiffZ> lets try
11:21 < Prot> for some stupid reason
11:21 < Prot> the wall plugin is required for many things
11:21 < Z_Man> hah
11:21 < Prot> you cant charge a battery drained ipod on a pc, need wall for that
11:21 < Prot> same for updater
11:21 < Prot> iz lame
11:21 < Z_Man> Prot: i did
11:21 < Prot> did what
11:22 < Z_Man> charged a battery drained ipod on a pc
11:22 < Prot> which ipod?
11:22 < Z_Man> 2g mini
11:22 < Prot> my photo does not
11:22 < Prot> mini may be different
11:22 < Z_Man> hah
11:22 < Z_Man> suckers
11:22 < linux_inside_v2> the updater wont accept the pc input to charge
11:22 < Prot> yep
11:22 < Prot> its the lame
11:22 < linux_inside_v2> i learnt that... the hard way.....
11:22 < linux_inside_v2> needless to say
11:22 < Prot> same
11:22 < Prot> the manual is like
11:22 < linux_inside_v2> i have a new board for my photo so im happy
11:22 < Prot> 'ok, charge the ipod now'
11:23 < linux_inside_v2> "wallcharger icon bitch, KGOGOGO"
11:23 < DiffZ> damn
11:23 < DiffZ> the updater tried it
11:23 < linux_inside_v2> little tip
11:23 < DiffZ> but the reboot ended its try
11:23 < linux_inside_v2> do not try to charge via unconventional means
11:24 < DiffZ> damn now am stuck
11:24 < linux_inside_v2> i know that when i screwed my firmware the ipod went into disc mode
11:24 < linux_inside_v2> and i fixed it
11:24 < Z_Man> i can charge my ipod from my ps2, should i not do that? is it bad for my ipod?
11:24 < linux_inside_v2> no
11:24 < Z_Man> no what?
11:24 < linux_inside_v2> its usb still
11:24 < linux_inside_v2> it wont damage anything
11:25 < Z_Man> ok, i didnt think soi
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> if by ps2 u mean playstation 2
11:25 < Z_Man> yes
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> yeah
11:25 < DiffZ> linux_inside_v2: yeah my firmware is non-existend and it goes in disc mode for like 30 secs and reboots
11:25 < Z_Man> not the ps/2 mice
11:25 < Z_Man> hehe
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> yeah
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> dont laugh
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> ive heard of people trying it
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> lets just say they might need to buy a usb mouse soon
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11:25 < DiffZ> lol
11:25 < linux_inside_v2> diffz: i think ipod photos are different
11:26 < linux_inside_v2> half my firmware is in the hardware
11:26 < DiffZ> well the mini to
11:26 < DiffZ> the disc is empty
11:26 < linux_inside_v2> then all should go well
11:26 < DiffZ> but the discmode stuff is in flash
11:26 < linux_inside_v2> if all else fails. call apple and wen they ask what happened just say ur mac crashed while updating it :P
11:27 < linux_inside_v2> or windows crashed
11:27 < linux_inside_v2> the latter is easily more beleivable
11:27 < DiffZ> yeah
11:27 < Prot> is the firmware stored on a firmware partition?
11:27 < Prot> cause if so, that sucks
11:27 < DiffZ> well just need to get the firmware partition
11:27 < linux_inside_v2> yeah
11:27 < linux_inside_v2> but you cant boot to disc mode
11:27 < DiffZ> yeah :)
11:27 < DiffZ> you can
11:27 < Prot> wouldnt a full reformat of the ipod kill it?
11:28 < linux_inside_v2> prot: there is backup firmware on the ipod with discmode in it
11:28 < linux_inside_v2> in the event of a hdd failure
11:28 < Prot> gotcha
11:28 < DiffZ> yeah
11:28 < Prot> first thing I did when I got my photo was reformat it in windows
11:28 < DiffZ> but even that is failing on me :P
11:28 < linux_inside_v2> hmmm
11:29 < linux_inside_v2> here in australia the call center is in india or something because its cheaper
11:29 < linux_inside_v2> its our version of nike
11:29 < Prot> rofl
11:29 < linux_inside_v2> the idiots dont understand what you're saying and vice versa
11:29 < linux_inside_v2> i called em once when my ipod was not working
11:29 < linux_inside_v2> halfway through the call im like "dont worry, i fixed it"
11:30 < linux_inside_v2> he is like "please wait, im entering your data sir"
11:30 < DiffZ> looolll
11:30 < linux_inside_v2> now that repeated a good 5 times before i just hung up
11:30 < linux_inside_v2> HP was the same today for a quote for a service part
11:31 < Prot> lesson, don't deal with support
11:31 < linux_inside_v2> they should outlaw it i swear
11:32 < DiffZ> lol, as long is i do not connect any cable to my ipod mini it will stay in disc mode
11:33 < smacmac> If it's not connected to anything what does it show when you pess a button?
11:33 < ballistix> linux_inside_v2: im an aussie too, lol one time i called the HP "helpcentre" and it was some malayan guy who barely spoke english
11:33 < smacmac> *press
11:33 < linux_inside_v2> yeah its fun isnt it ballistix
11:33 < DiffZ> smacmac: "Diskmode: OK to disconnect"
11:34 < linux_inside_v2> are you using firewire or usb?
11:34 < smacmac> alll the time. ok. Even when it is not connected. You have a 3G right?
11:34 < DiffZ> usb
11:34 < DiffZ> i'm booting up a pc with firewire
11:35 < linux_inside_v2> interesting, strokes goatee
11:35 < DiffZ> smacmac: it the older ipod mini with the crappy battery
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11:36 < smacmac> K. But even when it reboots it goes into diskmode?
11:36 < smacmac> And reboots if you connects it to the PC
11:36 < DiffZ> yes
11:37 < DiffZ> there no firmware so it will go into discmode if its connected to a pc
11:37 < DiffZ> but when it is in discmode for like 30 sec it will reboot
11:37 < smacmac> I understand. Do you have any waranty
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11:38 < smacmac> I mean is it still less that a year since you bought it?
11:38 < Z_Man> he probably voided his warrenty...
11:38 < Z_Man> hehe
11:38 < linux_inside_v2> how so?
11:38 < dansm> in function_draw in my program, i have sprintf(v, "number: %d", counter); and everytime I scroll right, i made counter ++... without using timers, how can i clear the space where it says %d? ... so that whenever the counter updates and draws where its supposed to, it doesn't end up with numbers on top of numbers
11:38 < linux_inside_v2> read your warranty
11:39 < Z_Man> oki
11:39 < DiffZ> smacmac: no waranty
11:39 < Z_Man> dansm, arrg, i hate those
11:39 < Z_Man> vsprintfs
11:39 < dansm> lol
11:40 < dansm> vsprintfs you say? ill try it, thanks
11:40 < Z_Man> no
11:40 < smacmac> I managaed to destroy my iPod's hard disk by looseing it so it fell one meter
11:40 < DiffZ> smacmac: it made a very hard fall onto a very nice but hard kitchen floor
11:40 < Z_Man> just vsprintf()
11:40 < Z_Man> no s at the edn
11:40 < dansm> ok
11:40 < Z_Man> end*
11:40 < Z_Man> yep
11:40 < smacmac> and I got a new one
11:40 < DiffZ> a well
11:40 < smacmac> for free. Waranty
11:40 < DiffZ> not any more
11:40 < DiffZ> i replaced te disc
11:41 < DiffZ> well something like that
11:41 < smacmac> it was three months ago
11:41 < DiffZ> and trying to get it booting again
11:41 < DiffZ> so i hope that the is someone outhere that has a backup of a winpod firmware partition :P
11:41 < dansm> Z_Man: too few args to vsprintf
11:41 < DiffZ> i'm gonna buy a new mp3 player
11:42 < DiffZ> maybe a ipod photo, or archos gmini or a creative zen sleek
11:42 < dansm> go the photo
11:42 < Z_Man> dansm, sorry, i dont know
11:42 < DiffZ> well.. i want to put mp3's on the player without using any additional software
11:43 < smacmac> but I'm livng in Norway. A friend of mine managed to smash the display. So he sent it to the store and they said he had to pay $199. He didn't want that and left the iPod there. One month later he got a new iPod sent to hime.
11:43 < dansm> Z_Man: thanks anyway
11:43 < Z_Man> yep
11:43 < DiffZ> smacmac: nice
11:43 < linux_inside_v2> diffz: ou have a 1g mini?
11:44 < dansm> Z_Man: im thinking i might just try and draw a rectangle where the numbers are after the counter updates, although that is a cheap hack
11:44 < DiffZ> yeah i h=guess its the 1g
11:44 < DiffZ> its got the (almost) 8 hours battery
11:44 < smacmac> He didn't ask why, but I would do it either
11:49 < Z_Man> dansm, aaah. ok
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12:16 < BleuLlama> dansm: either draw the text to a second buffer, and blit that over the screen (eliminates flicker) or change the text rendering transparency.   grep podzilla .c files for TRUE or FALSE
12:16 < BleuLlama> oh, he's not here. heh. nevemrind
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12:46 < Sereroku> hm
12:46 < Sereroku> what do you think, should i first buy a new mobile phones and then a psp oder first a PSP and then a mobile phone
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12:57 < ScoTTie> you'll need to buy a wall plug and a nice comfy chair for that PSP
12:57 < ScoTTie> 4 hour batt life isnt gonna go far
13:01 < Prot> 4 hours? roflicious
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13:01 < Prot> I guess they planned on people getting sick of shitty psp games before 4 hours is up
13:01 < Prot> which makes sense to me
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14:11 < JaJa_> did anyone who compiled ipodlinux use a mac x toolchain? if so was it a 2.95 toolchain?
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14:13 < A-K> does anyone know where i can find the mario.gb rom?
14:14 < A-K> because i checked google
14:14 < BleuLlama> ~pirate
14:14 < A-K> huh
14:14 < BleuLlama> no bot. i forgot
14:14 < A-K> for the gb emulator
14:14 < BleuLlama> that is copywrighted data.
14:14 < BleuLlama> do not ask for it in here
14:14 < BleuLlama> we will not help you.
14:15 < aegray_> no
14:15 < A-K> aegray helped out on it
14:15 < aegray_> no
14:15 < aegray_> no
14:15 < BleuLlama> that's like asking "hey, can anyone give me photoshop cs2 for os x?"
14:15 < Z_Man> yeah it is
14:15 < BleuLlama> not in here.  go away.
14:15 < aegray_> BleuLlama: hey can you give me photoshow cs2 for os x?
14:15 < Z_Man> hehe
14:15 < BleuLlama> aegray: nope.  
14:15 < BleuLlama> piss off
14:15 < aegray_> mizdawg - its not that hard to find anyway
14:15  * JaJa_ waits for A-K to say but i own the cart
14:16 < aegray_> haha
14:16  * aegray_ writes an angry letter to xm
14:16 < JaJa_> buy your own cart and back it up yourself
14:16 < aegray_> gameboy isn't allowed to be played yet
14:16 < aegray_> it has been decreed
14:17 < aegray_> hmm.
14:17  * BleuLlama hust has a GBA next to his ipod.  runs full speed, plays the games i want, totally legal. (color too!)
14:17 < BleuLlama> purple original GBA with an afterburner backlight installed
14:18 < Z_Man> GBA SP
14:18  * JaJa_ drools over the gpx2
14:18 < Z_Man> i have ^^^
14:18  * aegray_ plags gb on his ipod.  Not full speed.  Doesn't play the games I want. Not legal.  (Not color!)
14:18 < Z_Man> lol
14:18 < Z_Man> aegray
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14:18 < BleuLlama> never saw the need to buy an SP since i installed the backlight in my gba
14:19 < Z_Man> ok, i know this isnt the place to ask, but is it my ISP that doesnt let me see .tk domains? is it a problem with their DNS?
14:19 < JaJa_> here you go pirate. make you own roms http://www.gamestech.com/miscellaneous_info/handheld/gb_game_jack/handheld.htm
14:19 < BleuLlama> Tokalou?
14:19 < JaJa_> what isp?
14:20 < A-K> how am i the pirate
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14:20 < aegray_> arrrrrr
14:20 < Z_Man> TIme Warner Road Riunner
14:20 < aegray_> hehe
14:20  * JaJa_ pats parrot
14:20 < A-K> i aint saying nothin
14:20 < JaJa_> you just did
14:20 < aegray_> lol
14:20 < A-K> dam
14:21 < BleuLlama> someone -v A-K to help
14:21 < A-K> or wait
14:21 < A-K> darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn
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14:31  * BleuLlama wonders if anyone has gotten an X-10 Firecracker to work with OS X
14:31  * BleuLlama googles
14:31  * BleuLlama wonders where his X-10 firecracker even is
14:32  * aegray_ has an X-10 M-80
14:32 < BleuLlama> that's a Mac-10
14:33 < aegray_> god xine sucks
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14:44 < BleuLlama> hmm. bummer that we only have Tx/Rx lines for the serial port
14:44 < BleuLlama> (firecracker uses some of the other lines in a rs232 serial port)
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14:45 < BleuLlama> no home automation from iPod for me.  :(
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15:02 < Z_Man> can i use http://www.gnuarm.com/ 's arm-elf-tools to make apps for ipod linux?
15:04 < originalthp> would iTrip be working with iPodLinux or does iTrip need some commands going over the serial port ("remote jack")?
15:22 < BleuLlama> iTrip works by playing audio files to it
15:22 < BleuLlama> it's got a bass-ackwards interface, imo
15:22 < BleuLlama> zman: why not just use the regular tools?
15:22 < BleuLlama> 2.95?
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15:53 < onglipo> question : i cant see the photo boot up sequence text - till podzilla comes on
15:53 < onglipo> is this std. behaviour?
15:53 < aegray_> what?
15:54 < aegray_> shine a light on it
15:54 < A-K> yes its an std
15:54 < onglipo> that works
15:54 < aegray_> lol
15:54 < onglipo> :-)
15:54 < A-K> haha
15:54 < aegray_> they're called sti's now for some reason
15:54 < A-K> i was about to say that
15:54 < A-K> haha
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15:54 < Fenix-Dark> hi
15:55 < aegray_> bye
15:55 < onglipo> doesn't it make sense to set_backlight(1) during the bootup sequence?
15:55 < aegray_> no
15:55 < aegray_> recompile your kernel if you want that
15:55  * aegray_ did that
15:55 < Fenix-Dark> it'll waste battery life
15:55 < aegray_> and who cares about boot messages?
15:55 < onglipo> true
15:56 < onglipo> i've *never* seen them though!
15:56 < aegray_> then recompile
15:56 < onglipo> just curious - i guess i'll recompile
15:56 < Fenix-Dark> how many bogomips is the g4 ipod atm?
15:56 < aegray_> 32 iirc
15:56 < Fenix-Dark> how many bogomips are in a petaflop?
15:56 < aegray_> how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop?
15:56 < A-K> aegray, when you first released the video player kernel it had the backligh on when the kernel was booting
15:56 < Fenix-Dark> 1342
15:57 < aegray_> yea - i cheated
15:57 < aegray_> leachbj switched it back
15:57 < A-K> it doesn't really make a difference does it?
15:57 < aegray_> i dunno - boot messages are kinda ugly though
15:57 < aegray_> i only like it on when I need to see them
15:57 < aegray_> ie when I break shit
15:57 < onglipo> the way photo currently guzzles juice, i doubt it makes a difference - only philosophical I guess
15:58 < aegray_> I get like 7 hours out of my photo - i don't know what you're talking about
15:58 < Fenix-Dark> the photo has good battery life
15:58 < aegray_> it's not great
15:58 < aegray_> but it's not bad
15:58 < onglipo> may be time to switch my battery
15:58 < onglipo> i get about 2 hr on ipl
15:58 < Fenix-Dark> if its a photo you couldn't have had it long enough to use up the battery
15:58 < aegray_> playing music?
15:58 < A-K> i don't usually spend more then 30 mins at a time on ipl
15:59 < onglipo> well - i sort of ripped it to check what's in it..may be that did it
15:59 < aegray_> i leave mine on ipl overnight sometimes and it's still up in the morning
15:59 < aegray_> question: Do you guys want an autooff after 5 min idle ?
15:59 < onglipo> no music just ipl running
15:59 < onglipo> that would be good
15:59 < aegray_> k
16:02 < A-K> just a quick question
16:02 < A-K> is mario a gb rom?
16:02 < aegray_> no.  It's an n64 rom
16:02 < A-K> i wish
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16:03 < Fenix-Dark> aegray_, it would be better if that was in the settings where you could pick if u want it to turn off after 2,5,10,...,never
16:03 < A-K> yeah
16:03 < aegray_> it would be
16:05 < onglipo> quick q: is there a way to detect the clickwheel speed ? i tried incing counter on the KEY_DOWN event/ resetting on TIMER event
16:05 < onglipo> wasn't very reliable
16:06 < aegray_> the easiest way is to detect how many of those you get in a certain amount of time
16:06 < aegray_> but podzilla debounces
16:06 < aegray_>  /desensitizes
16:06 < onglipo> i had variable counts depending on cpu load
16:06 < aegray_> pz.c ignores some presses
16:06 < onglipo> oh
16:06 < onglipo> also i found them to vary dramatically if audio was playing
16:07 < onglipo> (depending on size of buf to dsp_write)
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16:07 < aegray_> yea probably true
16:07 < aegray_> best way...would be if your on one of the ipods with i2c input
16:07 < aegray_> and detecting the angle
16:08 < onglipo> i'll look that up; so i guess i'll abandon the key/timer event attempt
16:08 < aegray_> i woulda thought that would be the best way
16:08 < aegray_> what are you doing it for?
16:09 < onglipo> it works ; but i will need to adjust depending on the dsp_write buf size!
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16:09 < onglipo> i'm using it in the generator.c file we talked about 
16:09 < aegray_> but why speed?
16:09 < aegray_> what will speed do?
16:09 < aegray_> dsp_write buf size?
16:09 < onglipo> well the frequency range is 20hz to 8khz
16:09 < onglipo> so it takes a long time if i increment just by 1
16:10 < aegray_> look in the forums
16:10 < aegray_> someone posted a patch for how to do quadratic/whatever speed scrolling
16:10 < aegray_> that increases the faster and more you do it
16:10 < onglipo> that's it; i'll check : thanks
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16:17 < Prot> cmon, thats easy math
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18:00 < CIA-4> yorgle * tools/podzilla/tunnel.c: 
18:00 < CIA-4> Fixed the grayscale contrast issue (big blobs of gray throw the LCD off)
18:00 < CIA-4> Added color support
18:00  * BleuLlama afk
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19:01 < McStar> Hi, just downloaded the gameboy demo. Any instructions around on how to install it?
19:02 < aegray_> copy it all to the linux root directory on the ipod
19:02 < aegray_> actually - just wait
19:02 < McStar> thanks
19:02 < aegray_> i'll clean it up tonight
19:03 < McStar> How is the comaptibilty, noticed you have mario running?
19:03 < aegray_> i think it runs any game fine
19:03 < McStar> wow great job!
19:03 < aegray_> but its not set up for you to use really unless you know what your doing
19:03 < aegray_> its fellni and ducky = smawt
19:03 < McStar> i see
19:04 < aegray_> lol rom has to be under /mnt/david/MARIO.GB
19:12 < Serer0ku> anyone can send me an iboy binary?
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19:18 < Serer0ku> can i compile iBoy under cygwin?
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19:47 < kevpatts> leachbj, you busy? can I talk about this pod2pod project?
19:52 < aegray> we finished that already - it'll be released in a few days
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19:58 < kevpatts> lies.
20:00 < leachbj> what pod2pod project?
20:00  * aegray downloads songs between his ipods
20:00 < kevpatts> yeah. it kind of ground to a halt on me cause I can't fix kernel problems.
20:01 < aegray> kernel problems??
20:01 < kevpatts> known problems apparently, with the scsi interface.
20:02 < kevpatts> pod2pod as in mounting on ipod with another and copying files between em. I wrote a basic GUI for it.
20:03 < leachbj> what are you actually seeing?
20:07 < kevpatts> can I dump some output in here?
20:07 < BleuLlama> #livejournal.flood
20:10 < Serer0ku> how can i start mario when i'm in the menu?
20:11 < aegray> Serer0ku: you have to have mario in /mnt/david/MARIO.GB
20:11 < Serer0ku> yes
20:11 < Serer0ku> i am ingame ;)
20:11 < kevpatts> mount: Mounting /dev/sda2 on /mnt failed: No such device or address
20:12 < aegray> Serer0ku: what?
20:12 < kevpatts> the modprobe's give no errors and there's nothing strange in dmesg
20:12 < Serer0ku> ?
20:13 < aegray> did you modprobe the tsbwhatever?
20:13 < leachbj> if you dont see anything in dmesg about the disk then somethings not right
20:14 < Serer0ku> the gb screen isn't scaled yet right?
20:14 < Serer0ku> ^^
20:14 < kevpatts> I modprobed scsi_mod and sd_mod
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20:14 < aegray> Serer0ku: which ipod are you on?
20:15 < Serer0ku> 4G
20:15 < aegray> kevpatts: you have to modprobe tsbsomethingorother
20:15 < aegray> hold on
20:16 < kevpatts> and sbp2 too, but no tsb... Can you tell me that one? I'm so close to getting this working.
20:16 < aegray> yea hold on
20:16 < josh_> tsb43aa82
20:17 < aegray> hey there ya go
20:18 < aegray> Serer0ku: what's wrong?
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20:18 < Serer0ku> nothing ;) just the screen isn't really scaled on GB Emulator :)
20:18 < kevpatts> okay, so let me get this straight, I modprobe the three previous ones I talked about then modprobe "tsb43aa82", "mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1" and then mount the bad boy?
20:18 < kevpatts> excellent.
20:18 < aegray> i guess
20:19 < aegray> Serer0ku: yea its missing a few lines
20:19 < Serer0ku> but it's nice to it working ;)
20:20 < Serer0ku> yes
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20:22  * BleuLlama has the case from a 17" Apple CRT monitor on his desk... damn.. that takes up a lot of space
20:23 < kevpatts> okay, I have another easy question aegray, seeing as you're on a roll; I've a new menu with a menu item called "Mount iPod" which is to run a shell script. in the wrapper function I have: execl("/bin/sh","/bin/mount_scsi_extern.sh"); but nothing happens. Am I going about it the wrong way?
20:23 < BleuLlama> i've been looking around and people have had the same issue as with this monitor.  it requires a few parts replaced, including the flyback.  think i'm just gonna blow out the dust and if that doesn't fix it, just trash it.
20:24 < aegray> kevpatts: dunno - i would think that should work
20:24  * aegray not on a roll
20:24 < josh_> kevpatts: you're missing an arg to execl
20:24 < josh_> execl("/bin/sh","sh","/bin/mount_scsi_extern.sh");
20:24 < josh_> remember - arg 1 is path, arg 2 is argv[0]
20:25 < josh_> your earlier one is just starting up a shell that's listed as /bin/mount_scsi_extern.sh in ps
20:25 < josh_> and you also need a NULL on the end
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20:25 < boza111> hi
20:25 < josh_> execl("/bin/sh", "sh", "/bin/mount_scsi_extern.sh", 0);
20:25 < josh_> hi boza111
20:26 < boza111> btw , anyone heard about the talk that gasman held at opentech ?
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20:26 < aegray> no??
20:26 < boza111> well , he was going to hold one
20:26 < boza111> but i didn't hear anything about it 
20:26 < ficoo1> hi, I am trying to run the xopdzilla script and i get ": bad interpreter: No such file or directory". what might be the problem?
20:26 < aegray> what about?
20:27 < aegray> what's the script?
20:27 < aegray> boza111: what about?
20:27 < boza111> oh , no one heard how the talk went 
20:27 < josh_> ficoo1: you need #!/bin/sh at the top
20:27 < boza111> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2592
20:27 < aegray> oh yea
20:28 < boza111> are there any videos on the talk? ... or was it not an exciting event ?
20:29 < ficoo1> josh, didn't help
20:29 < kevpatts> excellent, thanks josh.
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20:30 < kevpatts> if I get this up and running I'll make another donation.
20:31 < aegray> did it mount?
20:31 < josh_> ficoo1: don't know then
20:32 < aegray> ficoo1: what's the name of the script?
20:32  * BleuLlama is seriously considering making a simple sequencer/beatbox, capable of generating piezo and audio tones, perhaps simple audio wave file playback as well. 
20:32 < aegray> ficoo1: and is it just like a normal sh script
20:32 < aegray> BleuLlama: :)
20:32 < aegray> ficoo1: and how are you running it?
20:32 < kevpatts> ah I don't have the second ipod here at the moment, It's my dads. I'll habe to wait to try it tomorrow.
20:33 < aegray> send it to me
20:33 < aegray> erm nm
20:33 < aegray> 4g
20:33 < aegray> right
20:33 < ficoo1> aegray, xpodzilla-builder.sh. and I got it from the ipl website. i tried running it with ./xpod... , sh ./xpod... bash ./xpod..., /bin/bash ./xpod...
20:34 < aegray> are you running this on the ipod?
20:34 < aegray> oh wait - is that from 8bx?
20:34 < ficoo1> no, my linux box. it is supposed to build podzilla and rest of the gang for x so I could start exprimanting in programming for the ipod
20:34 < josh_> ahhhh
20:35 < josh_> head -1 xpodzilla-builder.sh
20:35 < josh_> tell me what that says
20:35 < aegray> haha
20:35 < aegray> 10 bucks says your right josh_
20:35  * BleuLlama wonders if it's a perl script or something
20:36 < ficoo1> josh, #!/bin/sh but it came as #!/bin/bash and i changed it after it didn't work at first
20:36 < ficoo1> got it from here http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop
20:37 < aegray> are you on linux or cygwin?
20:37 < ficoo1> pure linux goodness
20:38 < josh_> no ideas then
20:38 < aegray> nunca idea
20:38 < aegray> ##linux
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20:39 < ficoo1> on my way to annoy them
20:39 < Nikosapi> hello!
20:39 < kevpatts> josh, I'm getting "error: too many arguments to function `execl'". I tried it with NULL instead of 0 at the end and got the same.
20:40 -!- ficoo1 is now known as ficoos
20:41 < josh_> execl is a variadic function
20:41 < josh_> you can't have "too many args"
20:41 < josh_> look at man execl
20:42 < aegray> haha
20:42 < josh_> you're supposed to use (char *)NULL actually
20:43 < Nikosapi> sorry to ask again, but where are the user settings saved in podzilla? (2 days ago I was told that they're stored in /dev/null, now I know what that is.  Me and my noobness)
20:43 < josh_> hehe
20:43 < josh_>  /etc/podzilla.conf
20:43 < josh_> it's a binary file
20:43 < Nikosapi> THANK YOU
20:43 < kevpatts> could I just use: execl("/bin/mount_scsi_extern.sh", "mount_scsi_extern.sh", NULL);?
20:44 < aegray> Nikosapi: they are stored in /dev/null
20:44 < Nikosapi> hun?
20:44 < josh_> kevpatts: yes
20:44 < aegray> /dev/null = settings
20:44 < josh_> Nikosapi: aegray is sh!tting you
20:44 < aegray> naw...
20:44 < BleuLlama> no
20:44 < Nikosapi> i figured that 
20:44 < BleuLlama> he's shitting you
20:44 < BleuLlama> not sh!tting
20:44 < BleuLlama> jeez. spell check, people.
20:45 < josh_> wasn't sure how easily offended anyone was in here...
20:45 < Nikosapi> I guess I desserved that
20:47 < ficoos> hi all, it was the 
20:47 < BleuLlama> yes, it was the
20:47 < ficoos> hi all, it was the \r in the file
20:47 < aegray> damn straight
20:48 < aegray> stupid 8bx
20:48 < aegray> jk
20:48 < ficoos> someone should fix the file on the site
20:49 < BleuLlama> thanks for volunteering!
20:49 < BleuLlama> "someone should" means "I volunteer to"
20:49 < Nikosapi> heh
20:49 < ficoos> I understood that
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20:57 < A-K> oh yeah, 1193 in chopper
21:00 < Nikosapi> wow!
21:01 < Nikosapi> does your chopper work properly? because sometimes my chopper can fly through those walls...
21:01 < leachbj> boza111: they're still working on the video, see http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005/recording/
21:02 < boza111> oh ok , yea i just looked at the site . I managed to find one photo of gasman running a video on his ipod
21:03 < Nikosapi> cool I was looking for that!
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21:06 < onglipo> hey guys/girls 
21:06 < onglipo> i'm trying to fix a prob on the post i made
21:08 < onglipo> looks like the patch goofs 
21:08 < onglipo> on 4g-
21:08  * Nikosapi is going to go watch the simpsons
21:08 < Nikosapi> Bye!
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21:12 < ficoos> hi, how do i run podzilla for the desktop with photo configurations (color size etc)
21:12 < josh_> no clue, probably some #defines
21:12 < aegray> you have to rebuild microwindows for the photo and then rebuild podzilla for the photo
21:12 < ficoos> aegray, hmm how?
21:13 < BleuLlama> by reading the wiki
21:13 < aegray> if I can give you one link that does it will you donate?
21:13 < BleuLlama> the page on building microwindows explains how to do it.
21:13 < aegray> damn
21:13 < BleuLlama> now donate money to the project
21:13 < josh_> good one
21:13 < BleuLlama> pay for my time in responding to you
21:14 < aegray> 300$ question
21:14 < iD`> That's cheap.
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21:16 < BleuLlama> boza111: no private messages
21:16 < ficoos> Wish I could donate but I live on millitary wage
21:16 < josh_> bleuu: any relation to BleuLlama?
21:16 < BleuLlama> no
21:16 < aegray> ficoos: i live on recycling cans and i donate
21:16 < BleuLlama> i work for a college and i donate as well
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21:17 < boza111> BleuLlama: Sorry . I was just playing with my irc client X-chat . I don't understand how to talk to another user privately :p (like in mirc)
21:17 < ficoos> I earn less the a 20$ a month
21:17 < A-K> 10$ nikosapi is watching the simpsons episode where they go to a dude ranch
21:17 < A-K> any takers?
21:24 < boza111> hey has anyone tried the new windows update ?
21:25 < boza111> anyone still connected ?
21:26 < aegray> no
21:26 < A-K> i don'y update windows
21:26 < iD`> boza111: Nope. I'm afriad not.
21:26 < A-K> too lazy
21:26 < boza111> lol 
21:26 < A-K> whats so great about this new update
21:26 < boza111> well nothing , but it blocks fake windowses .. :-(
21:27 < aegray> why is that a :-(
21:27 < aegray> ?
21:27 < Serer0ku> hrhr i love that f*ckin Gb emulator xD
21:27 < boza111> lol . microsoft realised that it would be a good idea to check the serial keys that they actually sold 
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21:28 < boza111> so if someone has a key that isnt available in the microsoft database they will get kicked out 
21:28 < aegray> and?
21:28 < aegray> isn't that a good thing?
21:29 < BleuLlama> man. i am *SO* not going to repair this monitor
21:29 < aegray> why?
21:29  * BleuLlama saw the source of the "SNAP" noise
21:29 < boza111> oh , i am just wondering if you guys had any bad experiences with it. Because supposebidly it even blocks some legal copies of windows
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21:29 < BleuLlama> the monitor is arcing from the metal shielding to the flyback wire... about 6" or so
21:29 < BleuLlama> screw that.
21:29 < aegray> eep
21:29 < BleuLlama> i do ahve some of the case plastics though.  gonna keep the spidery base
21:29 < BleuLlama> heh
21:30 < iD`> boza111: I've had perfectly legal keys rejected by Microsoft for one reason or another. Just live with it.
21:30 < admiralfrijole> BleuLlama: sounds cool
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21:41 < onglipo> Bleu: hi
21:42 < BleuLlama> hi
21:43 < onglipo> need help with a post i did on the forum ( did i f'up?)
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21:44 < onglipo> can someone check the generator patch - I've got ill repute from a dude!
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21:45 < BleuLlama> how many times do i need to say it
21:45 < BleuLlama> DON'T PM ME
21:46 < onglipo> oops~! s
21:46 < onglipo> kill me
21:46 < onglipo> :-)
21:46 < aegray> you should have an autoignore script for anyone that pm's
21:47 < BleuLlama> i should
21:47 < BleuLlama> i just do it manually now
21:48 < IKEA`> I'd ask if I can do anything to help, being a 4G owner, but would it be pointless if I did? I have absolutely no experience with kernel stuff and only limited programming knowledge.
21:48 < onglipo> it's 3 am here aegray - and my brain is nuked quite a buzz; hope help helps !
21:49 < BleuLlama> think i'm gonna head to the coffee place.
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21:49 < BleuLlama> hmmmm
21:50 < IKEA`> I'll... take that as a yes.
21:51 < onglipo> good caffeine - bye
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21:51 < aegray> IKEA`: donate?  or write help guides
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21:54 < IKEA`> I'll donate if I have enough money for myself. I'm not sure what you mean by guides, but I'll happily help with whatever you need as long as it's within my range of skill
21:55 < aegray> if you know how to use ipl well enough, fix anything on the wiki that is wrong, and/or write a n00b help guide
21:55 < aegray> you hang out here long enough, you'll here every problem known to man
21:55 < aegray> an "if this -> do this" guide for every possible situation would be nice
21:56 < IKEA`> I'll see what I can do.
21:56 < IKEA`> But from what I've seen the GUI installers (at least the one for OS X) seem pretty straightforward.
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21:57 < IKEA`> I'll just add in anything that's missing or might be useful.
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22:44 < Toxikated> hello all
22:44 < aegray> hello Toxikated 
22:44 < Toxikated> nice job that you and the other 2 did on the emulator aegray
22:45 < aegray> i didn't do anything
22:45 < Daishi> emulator?
22:45 < aegray> but they did great work!
22:45 < Toxikated> really?  i thought you were involved
22:45 < Toxikated> but yeah they did
22:45 < aegray> i was working on it
22:45 < aegray> but i never contributed anything
22:45 < Toxikated> ah
22:45 < aegray> i'll try and get to clean it up tonight so that more gens can use it
22:45 < Daishi> emulator?
22:45 < Toxikated> cool
22:46 < Daishi> !
22:46 < Daishi> *reads wiki*
22:46 < aegray> Daishi: gameboy
22:46 < aegray> Daishi: xbox
22:46 < Daishi> heh
22:46 < aegray> Daishi: n64
22:46 < Daishi> no ps2?
22:46 < Daishi> )-:
22:46 < aegray> Daishi: xbox360
22:46 < Daishi> woo!
22:46 < Daishi> nextgen systems!
22:46 < Daishi> ps3?
22:46 < aegray> not yet
22:46 < aegray> well work on that one for you
22:47 < Daishi> k i want it done by tomorrow alright?
22:47 < aegray> done
22:47 < Daishi> thx
22:47 < aegray> i'll have it by tonight
22:47 < Daishi> touch ps3.c
22:47 < aegray> echo "fake ps3 emulator" > ps3.c
22:48 < Daishi> my emulator is a smaller size
22:48 < Daishi> and works just as well
22:48 < aegray> echo "" > ps3.c ?
22:48 < Daishi> mine took less characters to write
22:49 < Daishi> cat>ps3.c<E
22:49 < Daishi> E
22:49 < Daishi> bah
22:49 < Daishi> still took one more
22:49 < aegray> you screwed up that joke
22:49 < aegray> damn it
22:49 < aegray> i wanna get a psp - they have some cool stuff for it
22:50 < Toxikated> yeah that homebrew stuff
22:50 < Daishi> theyre pretty but they have worse battery life than my ipod running ipl with backlight on traveling at light speed!
22:50 < aegray> haha
22:50 < aegray> for real?
22:50 < bengl> has anyone tried installing python on their ipod from windows?
22:50 < BleuLlama> you guys are idiots
22:51 < BleuLlama> `touch ps3.c`
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22:51 < Daishi> i heard it was like 3 hours with the games or something i dunno though
22:51 < aegray> BleuLlama: i admit to being an idiot
22:51 < BleuLlama> hehe
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22:51 < Daishi> BleuLlama: ${touch ps3.c} $() is better because you can only use `` once
22:51  * BleuLlama heads out
22:52 < Daishi> but i use tcsh normally and it doesnt like $()
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23:17 < aegray> lol toxicated
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23:23 < snowboord23> hey anyone try iboy yet?
23:23 < aegray> i tried it, but my ipod won't turn on now
23:24 < snowboord23> what kind do you have
23:24 < aegray> 4g, photo and mini2g
23:24 < aegray> </fucking with you>
23:24 < snowboord23> well do you think you could help me a second with getting it to work on my 15gb 3gen ipod
23:25 < aegray> would you people fucking read forums?
23:25 < snowboord23> i'm pretty good with coding 
23:25 < aegray> oh wait
23:25 < snowboord23> i did
23:25 < aegray> your offering to help?
23:25 < aegray> or you want help getting it to work?
23:25 < aegray> sorry
23:25 < snowboord23> i want some help
23:25 < aegray> like your going to recode some of it?
23:25 < snowboord23> i've been reading the forum for about 2 months now
23:25 < aegray> or you want me to tell you how to install
23:25 < aegray> ?
23:26 < snowboord23> how to install it
23:26 < aegray> ok I stand on my previous statement with the word "fucking" in it
23:26 < aegray> read the thread
23:26 < aegray> theres a very simple statment I made in there
23:26 < aegray> that has been made several times
23:26 < snowboord23> i'm not another noob asshole
23:26 < snowboord23> i hate them just as much as you do
23:27 < aegray> ok.. my statement was that it only works on 4g atm
23:27 -!- BamaWOLF is now known as wanking
23:27 < aegray> 3g will take some coding
23:27 < aegray> which i might be doing tonight
23:27 < aegray> if i'm an ass, i've been at work too much today
23:27 < snowboord23> me too
23:27 < aegray> 3g = new code needed
23:27 < snowboord23> well i'm willing to help you with some of that coding
23:27 < snowboord23> i know a little
23:28 < aegray> i don't even know what buttons should do what
23:28 -!- wanking is now known as imnowwanking
23:28 < aegray> you have any clue?
23:28 < snowboord23> kinda 
23:28 < aegray> lay it out to me
23:29 < snowboord23> ok=jump or action
23:29 < snowboord23> that's abvious
23:29 < aegray> k
23:29 < aegray> action = a
23:30 -!- imnowwanking is now known as BamaWOLF
23:30 < aegray> keep going...
23:30 < aegray> or am i lagging..
23:31 < snowboord23> sorry phone call
23:31 < aegray> k
23:32 < snowboord23> do you think it's possible to make the wheel like the 4g with touching certain parts of it
23:32 < aegray> not possible
23:32 < aegray> 3g wheel doesn't detect that
23:32 < snowboord23> yea that's waht i thought
23:32 < aegray> this discussion wouldn't be happening if it did that
23:32 < snowboord23> very true
23:33 < snowboord23> lol
23:34 < snowboord23> ok then play/pause= B
23:35 < snowboord23> wheel for foward and backward or up and down
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23:36 < snowboord23> any ideas for next and pre
23:36 < snowboord23> prev
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23:36 < aegray> wheel = left+right   play/pause = b  action=a  next=up prev=down
23:36 < aegray> menu = start but we need some way to exit
23:36 < aegray> and select is lost
23:37 < snowboord23> waht if play/pause and menu held down was exit
23:37 < snowboord23> oops sorry
23:37 < snowboord23> i mean
23:37 < snowboord23> next and prev
23:37 < aegray> that could work
23:38 < aegray> you have the code checked out from cvs atm?
23:38 < snowboord23> no not yet
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23:38 < aegray> Decipher: hi
23:38 < snowboord23> i probably should though i have a feeling this could be a long night
23:39 < aegray> haha
23:39 < aegray> not really - it could take like 5 minutes
23:39 < snowboord23> what's the link again i forget
23:39 < aegray> you have to use cvs
23:39 < aegray> afaik
23:39 < aegray> or sourceforge.net/projects/iboy
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23:40 < Daishi> aegray: nothing ever takes five minutes
23:40 < aegray> yes it does
23:41 < aegray> i was going to try some poor joke
23:41 < aegray> but i decided against it
23:42 < snowboord23> ok i have it
23:42 < Daishi> i saw that joke a mile away
23:42 < aegray> i know
23:42 < snowboord23> i haven't really looked at this code yet so if i can't find something just bare with me
23:43 < aegray> sys/ipod/kb.c
23:43 < aegray> thats all you have to know
23:43 < snowboord23> ok
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23:43 < aegray> yah GNUBoy!
23:44 < snowboord23> lol
23:44 -!- BamaWOLF is now known as Village_idiot
23:44 < snowboord23> here to save the day
23:44 < snowboord23> lol
23:44 < Serer0ku> is there a way to use shell functions in C? like cp, mv and so on?
23:45 < Daishi> execv?
23:45 < aegray> execv
23:45 < aegray> damn
23:45 < Daishi> woo!
23:45 < Daishi> pwned!
23:45  * aegray quits
23:45 < snowboord23> lol
23:45  * aegray for real -  bbiab driving home
23:46 < aegray> in like 5 mins
23:46 < aegray> so if you have any pressing questions that can't wait 30 minutes, ask now
23:46 < aegray_> aegray: what's the meaning of life?
23:46 < Daishi> yea!
23:46 < snowboord23> good question
23:46 < aegray> i can't talk to that person
23:47 < snowboord23> ok so aegray i'll start working at this
23:47 < aegray> have fun
23:47 < snowboord23> have you started anything at all
23:48 -!- Village_idiot is now known as BamaWOLF
23:48 < aegray> for 3g? no - I don't have a 3g so there's no point for me without a tester
23:48 < aegray> i have it running in color on my photo
23:48 < aegray> faster than the current version i think
23:48 < aegray> but thats about it
23:48 < snowboord23> nice
23:49  * aegray out
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23:57 < snowboord23> any one else working on coding controls for iboy on 3g?
23:58 < boza111> hey , damm i am slow , i havnt heard iboy yet . What is it
23:58 < boza111> of iboy*
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