--- Log opened Tue Jul 26 00:00:03 2005 00:00 < BleuLlama> midnight! YAY! 00:00 < josh_> (17:00:02) BleuLlama: midnight! YAY! 00:01 < courtc> [20:00] BleuLlama midnight! YAY! 00:01 < Decipha> 10:00am 00:04 < BleuLlama> yeah, and it's 8pm here. your point? 00:04 < josh_> heh 00:18 -!- Mike [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < jedix> alright 00:25 < jedix> time to put this mpdc 00:27 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:29 < jedix> what does one have to do? replace podzilla, put the mpd and mpd.conf in the correct directories and reboot? 00:31 < hyarion> and add a line to the /etc/rc file 00:31 -!- aegray [~aegray@69.21.201.246] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:32 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 < jedix> and now, pray 00:35 < jedix> apparently to the wrong god 00:35 < jedix> podzilla respawn too fast 00:35 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@84.4.0.255] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:36 < hyarion> what happened? 00:36 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:36 < josh_> `shutup 00:36 < jedix> ? 00:37 < josh_> (command to bot) 00:37 < jedix> thought it was ~ 00:37 < josh_> ~shutup 00:37 < josh_> ~leave 00:37 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:37 < josh_> ah 00:37 < josh_> it DID work, it just didn't say anything. 00:38 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 < aegray> ~quit 00:38 < iplbot-II> Sorry, aegray, I don't know anything about quit. 00:38 < iplbot> aegray, I have no idea what quit is. 00:38 < josh_> `shutup 00:38 < aegray> arg 00:38 < josh_> `listen josh_ 00:38 < josh_> `blab 00:38 < iplbot-II> OK, I'll keep talking. 00:39 < josh_> `listeners 00:39 < iplbot-II> Sorry, josh_, I don't know anything about listeners. 00:39 < josh_> `voices 00:39 < iplbot-II> Listening to: < .+ josh_ > 00:39 < josh_> `ignore .+ 00:39 < iplbot-II> Now listening only to you, josh_. 00:39 < josh_> `shutup 00:39 < josh_> there, now it'll memorize everything iplbot says 00:39 < aegray> cool 00:40 < jedix> note to self, chmod +x 00:40 < josh_> good idea 00:41 < josh_> `blab 00:41 < iplbot-II> OK, I'll keep talking. 00:41 < josh_> `listen aegray 00:41 < iplbot-II> Now listening to aegray. 00:41 < josh_> `listen courtc 00:41 < iplbot-II> Now listening to courtc. 00:41 < josh_> `listen davidc__ 00:41 < iplbot-II> Now listening to davidc__. 00:41 < josh_> `listen BleuLlama 00:41 < iplbot-II> Now listening to BleuLlama. 00:41 < josh_> `listen leachbj 00:41 < iplbot-II> Now listening to leachbj. 00:41 < josh_> anyone else? 00:42 < aegray> sounds about it for now 00:42 < josh_> `ignore josh_ 00:42 < iplbot-II> Now ignoring josh_. 00:42 < josh_> now type `shutup 00:42 < aegray> `shutup 00:42 < josh_> (it worked) 00:44 < jedix> and now pray again 00:44 < jedix> pray to the gods 00:45 < jedix> arg, what'd I do wrong this time 00:48 < jedix> what's the permissions on /etc/mpd.conf? 00:51 < jedix> should I take podzilla out of inittab and put it into rc? 00:51 < aegray> yea sure 00:52 < Daishi> why? 00:52 < aegray> gives him something to do 00:52 < jedix> because I'm trying to get mpdc going on this 00:53 < Daishi> `shutup 00:53 < Daishi> ? 00:53 < jedix> and I dunno if it needs to run after mpd --update-db and mpd 00:53 < jedix> and besides, it gives me something to do. 01:01 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:10 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:11 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < josh_> `close 01:12 < iplbot-II> Back to selective mode. If you trust these people, op me. < josh_ aegray leachbj courtc davidc__ BleuLlama > 01:14 < jedix> what files does mpd need? like what files? 01:16 * BleuLlama guesses he'll work on getting the dialog box to be nicer 01:16 < BleuLlama> i wonder if there are any good algorithms which i can do word wrap, etc... hmm 01:16 < BleuLlama> eh. can't be too hard i guess. 01:16 * BleuLlama writes up some pseudocode 01:18 -!- aegray_ [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:18 -!- aegray_ is now known as aegray 01:25 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp179969.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 01:26 -!- iplbot [~ircbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 < jedix> the correct answer is "check mpd.conf for the variables" 01:29 -!- linux_inside_v2 [~likei@dsl-38.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 < linux_inside_v2> hi 01:31 < jedix> and also, mpdc doesn't work on the mini 01:32 < aegray> what error do you get? 01:32 < jedix> I get a blank screen 01:32 < jedix> after boot 01:32 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 < aegray> mini2g or 1g? 01:32 < jedix> 1g 01:32 < aegray> you did it wrong then 01:32 < jedix> normal podzilla works 01:33 < aegray> so? 01:33 < aegray> something got setup wrong 01:33 < linux_inside_v2> yeah when i load mpd on mine it cant read my itunes library 01:33 < Nikosapi> Hey everyone! it's been awhile... 01:33 < linux_inside_v2> but its unsupported 01:33 < jedix> I copied mpd, and podzilla to /bin, and copied mpd.conf to /etc 01:33 < aegray> hi there 01:33 < linux_inside_v2> hi niko 01:33 < BleuLlama> hello 01:33 < aegray> did you setup the directories - the playlist stuff? 01:33 < aegray> and the rc? 01:33 < BleuLlama> no. i don't do that stuff 01:33 < aegray> haha 01:33 < BleuLlama> aegray: did you? 01:34 < jedix> and touched the three files in /home/.mpd 01:34 < aegray> I actually did 01:34 < BleuLlama> cool. 01:34 < BleuLlama> good for you! 01:34 < BleuLlama> :D 01:34 < aegray> haha 01:34 < BleuLlama> hahaha 01:34 < jedix> and I put the three lines in rc (including moving pozilla from inittab to rc) 01:34 * aegray has a version of the video player that works on pc :) 01:35 < jedix> aegray: what'd I miss? 01:35 < josh_> aegray: isn't it called "mplayer"? 01:35 * aegray gives josh_ the finger 01:35 < aegray> jedix: i dunno - all i know is it works on a mini 01:35 < jedix> blast 01:36 < josh_> `say I give aegray the finger. 01:36 < iplbot-II> I give aegray the finger. 01:36 < aegray> `ignore josh_ 01:36 < aegray> damn 01:36 < joshk> `action give aegray a million bucks 01:37 < linux_inside_v2> aegray: i think mpd cant read the new itunesdb or something 01:37 < aegray> that might be linux_inside_v2 01:37 < aegray> just have it index the files 01:37 < linux_inside_v2> stupid apple! 01:37 < josh_> `listen .+ 01:37 < iplbot-II> Now listening to .+. Listening to: < josh_ aegray leachbj courtc davidc__ BleuLlama .+ > 01:37 < josh_> `say /me gives aegray a million bucks 01:37 < jedix> aegray: I had made a file "playlist" and not "playlists" 01:37 < josh_> looks like there's a bug in CTCP ACTION 01:37 < aegray> haha 01:37 < linux_inside_v2> if you give it access to the db on mine it bombs 01:37 < aegray> oh 01:38 < linux_inside_v2> if you dont it works up to the point where it says "no songs in library" 01:38 < josh_> `ignore .+ 01:38 < iplbot-II> Now listening only to you, josh_. 01:38 < aegray> don't give it access linux_inside_v2 01:38 < josh_> `leave 01:38 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 01:38 < linux_inside_v2> so how do i add all my songs to the db? 01:38 < linux_inside_v2> the mpd db 01:38 < Nikosapi> Is there really binary that can power-off the ipod because when I select "turn off ipod" from the power menu I get this message "no poweroff binary available" Could this be? 01:38 < linux_inside_v2> haha 01:38 < linux_inside_v2> i got my poweroff working btw 01:39 < linux_inside_v2> i'll make a wiki entry for the poweroff if you want 01:39 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 < iplbot-II> /msg iplbot-II help for help. I know about . 01:39 < iplbot-II> If you trust these people, op me. < josh_ aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj > 01:39 < aegray> good linux_inside_v2 01:39 < aegray> Nikosapi: theres some stuff you have to do to get it to work 01:40 < linux_inside_v2> aegray: what was that url to the beta busybox? 01:40 < aegray> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/ 01:40 < Nikosapi> i figured that 01:40 < aegray> bookmark that 01:40 < aegray> Nikosapi: read the log from yesterday 01:40 < aegray> i explained it 01:40 < Nikosapi> cool, i've never been to that page before 01:41 < Nikosapi> great stuff 01:41 < linux_inside_v2> i'll do the wiki entry as long as my boss doesnt show up lol 01:41 < aegray> haha 01:42 < Nikosapi> heh. 01:42 < linux_inside_v2> it took me ages to figure out why mine didnt work 01:42 -!- LexDyisc [~LexDyisc@adsl-067-032-165-137.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 < LexDyisc> hey 01:43 < linux_inside_v2> i had everything linked to the wrong busybox lol 01:43 < aegray> HEY 01:43 < LexDyisc> whats up? 01:43 < aegray> nothin 01:43 < aegray> whats up with you 01:43 < LexDyisc> umm nothing much, but I do have a quick question... 01:44 < aegray> yea.. nobody cares about us..they don't come to talk to us. its always question question question 01:44 * aegray lonely 01:44 < LexDyisc> *sigh* 01:44 < aegray> ok jk - whats your question 01:45 < LexDyisc> well first, why on wirth would you have "everything" linked to a busybox 01:45 < josh_> `blab 01:45 < iplbot-II> OK, I'll keep talking. 01:45 < aegray> LexDyisc: its supposed to be 01:45 < josh_> ~lonely is yea.. nobody cares about us..they don't come to talk to us. its always question question question 01:45 < iplbot-II> OK, josh_. 01:46 < LexDyisc> anyways whats the best way to clear my ipod... or force it to format the drive if It wont be reconized the USB port? 01:46 < aegray> disk mode+apple restore 01:46 < BleuLlama> disk mode+apple restore 01:47 < josh_> ~fix 01:47 < iplbot-II> fix is put in disk mode, use apple updater to restore. 01:47 < aegray> disk mode+apple restore 01:47 < BleuLlama> disk mode+apple restore 01:47 < LexDyisc> ok, cause i nuked the sucker by trying my own modifications 01:47 < aegray> what kind of modifications? 01:47 < LexDyisc> *no comment* 01:47 < BleuLlama> body modifications 01:48 < aegray> please?? I wanna know 01:48 < LexDyisc> no software 01:48 < josh_> anything to do with iPodLinux? 01:48 < LexDyisc> meh, I was trying to get my mini to record... and I know that you guys dont support the mini 01:48 < LexDyisc> so i figured I'd change things around alittle 01:48 < LexDyisc> and ya... 01:48 < josh_> ah 01:49 < josh_> ~fix 01:49 < iplbot-II> fix is put in disk mode, use apple updater to restore. 01:49 < LexDyisc> now on the mini, thats menu+select? 01:50 < josh_> ~diskmode 01:50 < iplbot-II> diskmode is restart iPod, then hold down REW+FFW =. 01:50 < josh_> wait 01:50 < josh_> that didn't come out right 01:50 < josh_> diskmode is restart iPod, then hold down REW+FFW (<=3g) or Menu+center (>=4g,mini). 01:51 < BleuLlama> i don;t think you phrased that quite confusing enough 01:51 < BleuLlama> just point people to the wiki page 01:51 < LexDyisc> meh to late 01:51 < LexDyisc> google 01:51 < LexDyisc> but thanks 01:52 < LexDyisc> anyways, becides people like me asking dumb ass questions, what goes on here? 01:52 < BleuLlama> pretty much just that 01:52 < aegray> people like you asking dumb ass questions 01:52 < BleuLlama> oh, and the rest of us getting aggravated by the dumb questions 01:52 < aegray> and some witty bantar by the extremely smart developers 01:52 < aegray> hehe 01:52 < LexDyisc> wow, sounds like a blast 01:52 < aegray> especially bleullama 01:53 < aegray> we mostly discuss social issues - you know - politics, religion 01:53 < aegray> its always an adventure 01:53 -!- Mike [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:53 < LexDyisc> that sounds sexy 01:57 < LexDyisc> well FYI i guess I tosted my ipod... servers it right... 01:57 < aegray> how? 01:57 < aegray> what exactly did you do? 01:57 < LexDyisc> well I put my stuff on... it didnt work quite right 01:57 < LexDyisc> so i formated it 01:57 < aegray> what stuff? 01:57 < LexDyisc> then 01:57 < LexDyisc> I put on the IPod min stuff by these guys 01:58 < LexDyisc> *mini 01:58 < Nikosapi> you how the first line of /etc/rc has to be #!/bin/sh for the poweroff thing (correct me if im wrong) is that text all together or is there spaces? 01:58 < LexDyisc> meh, no disk mode, no reset... i've been trying to fix it on my free time for the last few days 01:58 < BleuLlama> together 01:58 < BleuLlama> no spaces 01:58 < Nikosapi> k 01:58 < aegray> Nikosapi: what? 01:59 < aegray> oh nm 01:59 < LexDyisc> so then i broke down and came here ;) 01:59 < aegray> what did you put on your ipod? 01:59 < aegray> the mini stuff? 01:59 < Nikosapi> 08:39 < aegray> create a file named inittab on your ipod root with the lines: 01:59 < Nikosapi> all the way to 02:00 < Nikosapi> 08:40 < aegray> chmod +x /etc/rc 02:00 < LexDyisc> ha... gog it 02:00 < LexDyisc> got it 02:00 < LexDyisc> strange.... very strange... my stuff is still on there 02:00 < LexDyisc> well thats kinda cool 02:00 -!- davidc___ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:00 < aegray> hey david 02:01 < davidc___> ah.. left myself logged in at work 02:01 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__[2] 02:01 < josh_> `greet davidc__[2] 02:01 < iplbot-II> Hi, davidc__[2]! 02:01 < LexDyisc> hey my stuff works... but thats strange... my stuff is still on the sucker even after i reformated it and put on the ipodlinux 02:01 < davidc__[2]> ok, this is getting stupid 02:01 < davidc__[2]> the bot should just be for information 02:01 < josh_> just kidding 02:01 < aegray> haha 02:01 < davidc__[2]> not for filling the channel with crap 02:01 < davidc__[2]> we have n00bs to do that. 02:02 < aegray> and me 02:02 < josh_> sheesh, it was a joke 02:02 < BleuLlama> and only devs should be able to make it speak 02:02 < davidc__[2]> :P 02:02 < josh_> `ignore josh_ 02:02 < iplbot-II> Now ignoring josh_. Listening to: < aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj > 02:02 < davidc__[2]> aegray: you are a dev :P 02:02 < josh_> good enough? 02:02 < davidc__[2]> josh_ you're allowed to make it talk :P 02:02 < josh_> okay :P 02:02 < davidc__[2]> as the creator:P 02:02 < aegray> that was the most :P i've ever seen 02:02 < davidc__[2]> yea :P 02:02 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp179969.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:02 < davidc__[2]> I'm trying to use it every line :P 02:02 < BleuLlama> hahaha :P 02:03 < davidc__[2]> because I want to irritate you :P 02:03 -!- LexDyisc [~LexDyisc@adsl-067-032-165-137.sip.sdf.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:03 < josh_> `listen josh_ 02:03 < iplbot-II> Now listening to josh_. Listening to: < aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj josh_ > 02:04 < josh_> `close 02:04 < iplbot-II> Back to selective mode. If you trust these people, op me. < aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj josh_ > 02:04 < davidc__[2]> josh_ in any case, could we make it a wee bit less wordy? 02:04 < josh_> shorter lines, or less lines? 02:04 < aegray> use a separate room to add stuff to it 02:04 < aegray> or a pm 02:05 < josh_> ok 02:05 < Nikosapi> damn the poweroff thing doesn't seem to be working, i'll wait till someone fixes it, I don't like getting into things that I don't understand, it scares me... 02:07 < Nikosapi> does the poweroff feature have to do with podzilla or the userland.? 02:07 < aegray> userland 02:07 < Nikosapi> ah 02:12 < Nikosapi> damn, sourceforge is down 02:13 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit ["leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/"] 02:15 -!- dsl6468 [~dsl@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:16 -!- dsl6468 [~dsl@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:16 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["c u tomorrow"] 02:19 < linux_inside_v2> niko: www.ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta 02:25 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.131.12.215.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:27 < Pokeon> linux_inside... You got it working? 02:27 < linux_inside_v2> yeah 02:27 < linux_inside_v2> as per that guide ^ 02:27 -!- Toxikated [~noway@d207-216-211-182.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:27 < Pokeon> ya 02:27 < linux_inside_v2> for linux only 02:28 < linux_inside_v2> :P 02:28 < Pokeon> I doubt it makes a differents if you know anything baout computers 02:28 < linux_inside_v2> im gonna work on a windows installer later *maybe* 02:28 < linux_inside_v2> well you could make a start script to do it 02:28 < Pokeon> I can do that all in windows 02:28 < meatmanek> hmm 02:28 * Vanquisher throws a pokeball at Pokeon 02:28 < Pokeon> arg! not again 02:28 < Vanquisher> rofl 02:28 < linux_inside_v2> you should download an EXT2/3 driver for windows 02:28 < Toxikated> is there any reason why calling srand() or rand() would cause my app to crash? ever since adding a function, its been crashing and random numbers are the only thing in the function that im not experienced with 02:29 < linux_inside_v2> then you can just copy files to the ipod's linux part 02:29 < Pokeon> linux_inside_v2, I wihs I had some 02:29 < josh_> no, rand() uses a simple mathematical algorithm 02:29 < Pokeon> but I couldnt find any 02:29 < meatmanek> what file formats can the apple fw's notes viewer read? 02:29 < josh_> .txt 02:29 < meatmanek> can't do rtf? 02:29 < josh_> although there's support for a very small subset of html (just links and title) 02:30 < josh_> no rtf 02:30 < BleuLlama> and audio launching links 02:30 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-149-58-77.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 < linux_inside_v2> how do you make it launch adio? 02:30 < linux_inside_v2> audio* 02:31 < BleuLlama> read the pdf from apple's site 02:31 < linux_inside_v2> k 02:31 < linux_inside_v2> thx 02:31 < meatmanek> and I hope it can do
? 02:31 < johnny999> Is anyone hear running mpd? 02:31 < josh_> meatmanek: you use \n 02:31 < johnny999> here that is 02:32 < josh_> (an actual newline) 02:32 < BleuLlama> read the pdf. it's all in there 02:32 < meatmanek> gah. 02:34 < Pokeon> johnny999, Ive ran it 02:35 < Toxikated> can someone please do me a huge favor and look over about 25 lines of code to see why my app might be crashing? I cant seem to figure it out 02:35 < Toxikated> and its probably some stupid mistake or something 02:35 < BleuLlama> feed it into gdb 02:36 < Toxikated> how exactly do i do that? 02:36 < BleuLlama> programming is 40% design, 30% coding, and 50% debugging 02:36 < josh_> ~leave 02:36 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 02:36 < BleuLlama> learn it all 02:36 < davidc__[2]> BleuLlama: wrong 02:37 < davidc__[2]> 90% debugging 02:37 < aegray> true 02:37 < BleuLlama> heh 02:37 < josh_> agreed 02:41 -!- garrett [~garrett@130.57.22.69] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:42 < meatmanek> I love how that adds up to 120$ 02:42 < meatmanek> % rather 02:42 < linux_inside_v2> lol 02:44 < courtc> yea, it add up to moeny 02:44 < courtc> or even money 02:46 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp179969.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 02:46 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-149-58-77.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 02:51 -!- Decipha [~sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [] 02:58 < meatmanek> So how do you guys get past the Read-only file system problem? 02:58 < meatmanek> when mounting the iPod on linux 02:58 < zsr> to make that true, its 33% design, 25% coding, 41% debugging :o 02:58 < aegray> read-only filesystem? 02:58 < aegray> it gets remounted rw 02:59 < meatmanek> /dev/sda on /mnt/ipod type hfsplus (rw) 02:59 < meatmanek> touch: cannot touch `blah': Read-only file system 02:59 < aegray> yea who messes with hfsplus? 02:59 < aegray> also there is an hfsplus driver that can write afaik 02:59 < meatmanek> do you know where to find it? 02:59 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.131.12.215.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["later"] 02:59 < davidc__[2]> its a dirty bit thingy 03:00 < davidc__[2]> for when a filesystem is unclenaly unmounted 03:00 < davidc__[2]> mac os x doesn't reset it properly 03:00 < davidc__[2]> and uses a different method 03:00 < davidc__[2]> but it does set the bit 03:01 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 < iplbot-II> /msg iplbot-II help for help. I know about talking shit to devs, installing from linux, when will, video player, bleullama is a horrible programmer. He, toolchain, building podzilla, gens is generation info, wiki problems is The wiki, diskmode, aegray, fix, mpd, ideas about ipodlinux, unsupported, ipod shuffle, pirate, wiki, butt pirate, 4g installer, creation date, project status, the ipod shuffle, courtc, 03:01 < iplbot-II> o, kernel building, 4g, the video player, restart, coob, Eko, shutting up, davidc__, leachbj. 03:01 < iplbot-II> If you trust these people, op me. < josh_ aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj > 03:01 < josh_> note to self: more factoids than anticipated. 03:01 < davidc__[2]> josh_ don't make him say stuff on join 03:01 < davidc__[2]> its irritating 03:01 < josh_> ok 03:02 < josh_> fixed 03:02 < zsr> ~hawt secks 03:02 < iplbot-II> Sorry, zsr, I don't know anything about hawt secks. 03:02 < linux_inside_v2> josh: www.ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta 03:02 < linux_inside_v2> can you add that to iplbots knowledgebase? 03:02 < iplbot-II> Sorry, linux_inside_v2, I don't know anything about can you add that tos knowledgebase?. 03:03 < davidc__[2]> josh_ make him only say stuff when given a command string 03:03 < josh_> ~poweroff beta is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta 03:03 < iplbot-II> OK, josh_. 03:03 < davidc__[2]> or at least when his name is at the beginning 03:03 < linux_inside_v2> vote #1 iplbot-i 03:03 < iplbot-II> Sorry, linux_inside_v2, I don't know anything about vote #1-i. 03:03 < davidc__[2]> for example, we should have to use ~ before he'll respond 03:03 < linux_inside_v2> the original is the best 03:03 < davidc__[2]> linux_inside_v2: don't abuse the bot. 03:03 < zsr> dear god 03:03 < meatmanek> ~mpl 03:03 < iplbot-II> Sorry, meatmanek, I don't know anything about mpl. 03:03 < meatmanek> er 03:03 < meatmanek> ~mpd 03:03 < iplbot-II> mpd is at http://www.ipodlinux.org/MPD. It will solve any malloc errors as well as give us tons of features for playing music! 03:03 < aegray> mpl? 03:04 < meatmanek> braino. 03:04 < zsr> ~iplbot-II, shush 03:04 < iplbot-II> iplbot is something made to help out the devs who have to deal with stupid questions... day in... day out... 03:04 * davidc__[2] goes insane 03:04 < davidc__[2]> its worse than a n00b 03:04 < josh_> `leave 03:04 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:04 < aegray> amen 03:05 < aegray> josh - just let us talk to it not others 03:05 < aegray> too many people try it and it just fills chan 03:05 < josh_> ok. I put too much faith in other people's lack of curiosity... 03:05 < davidc__[2]> josh - what we had in mind was a way for n00bs to message it in private to ask it stuff 03:05 < meatmanek> indeed. 03:05 < davidc__[2]> or for us to instruct it to post a block of text to the chan / in a PM to the n00b 03:05 < linux_inside_v2> good idea 03:05 < josh_> ah 03:05 < josh_> okay 03:05 < linux_inside_v2> everytime you mention its name 03:05 < linux_inside_v2> it speaketh 03:06 < josh_> fixed (only at beginning of line followed by comma) 03:07 < zsr> add a : in there as well 03:07 < zsr> sometimes people use that instead 03:07 < josh_> ok 03:07 < davidc__[2]> so basically, lets make it so only we devs can make it speak to the channel 03:07 < davidc__[2]> every other time it should be completely quiet 03:07 < aegray> haha 03:08 < aegray> mode +q *.notdev 03:08 < davidc__[2]> haha. 03:08 < davidc__[2]> don't we wish 03:08 < linux_inside_v2> lol 03:10 < A-K> how do i install on 4G ipod 5GB 03:10 < aegray> ~4g 03:10 < aegray> or not 03:10 < A-K> ahahahh 03:10 < aegray> 5GB? 03:10 < josh_> bot is being repaired 03:10 < A-K> i wanted to see the reaction 03:10 < aegray> i hate you 03:11 < A-K> i was getting prepared to be flammed by davidc 03:11 < davidc__[2]> I immediately fired off /kick A-K happy? 03:11 < davidc__[2]> but I forgot I'm not ops ATM 03:11 < davidc__[2]> let me fix that 03:11 < aegray> ghost your other name 03:11 < A-K> then i was getting prepared to cry in my room from the mean things davidc would say 03:11 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:11 -!- davidc__[2] is now known as davidc__ 03:12 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:12 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:12 < aegray> or you could have /chanserved your name 03:12 -!- A-K was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [die. and die horribly.] 03:12 < josh_> op the bot? 03:12 < aegray> steal the original name - bastard! 03:12 < davidc__> aegray: yeah, but that would require me to be davidc. 03:12 < aegray> oh right 03:12 < aegray> heh 03:12 < davidc__> hmm.. I wonder if a-k is gonna come back. 03:12 < aegray> haha 03:12 < davidc__> haha, he's offline. 03:13 < josh_> the bot understands ~kick so-and-so 03:13 < aegray> ~kick my ass 03:13 < davidc__> josh_ we don't want the bot to have ops. 03:13 < aegray> oh thats kiss 03:13 < josh_> ah ok 03:13 -!- davidc___ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 < aegray> your work autorejoined? 03:13 < davidc__> yep 03:14 < davidc__> josh_ mostly thats because we don't trust you. 03:14 < aegray> haha 03:16 < linux_inside_v2> ~poo 03:16 < linux_inside_v2> :poo 03:16 < davidc__> don't feel bad, but look at the people that have ops... the only ones that do have been here forever. 03:16 < linux_inside_v2> failed 03:16 < davidc__> linux_inside_v2: stfu. 03:16 < aegray> haha 03:16 < linux_inside_v2> :'( 03:16 < josh_> it's ok, I understand 03:18 < davidc__> and besides, it would just take time away from me working as I would try to find buffer overflows for it.... so I could extract vengance from afar 03:18 < aegray> lol 03:18 < josh_> hehe 03:19 < josh_> not very many buffer overflows in Perl 03:19 < aegray> davidc__ would find one 03:19 < josh_> undoubtedly 03:19 < aegray> ~nickometer josh_ 03:19 < davidc__> or I'd just have the aliens add one. 03:19 < aegray> darn 03:19 < davidc__> its easy. 03:19 < josh_> aegray: not everything is ported yet 03:20 < josh_> ~leave (bugfix) 03:20 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 03:20 < linux_inside_v2> lol 03:24 < meatmanek> Stupid length restriction. 03:25 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:25 < josh_> iplbot, tell davidc__ about ops 03:25 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:25 < meatmanek> heh. 03:25 < davidc__> josh_ didn't get anything 03:25 < aegray> he died! 03:25 < josh_> bug 03:26 < courtc> I thought we were doing the no-ops thing.. 03:26 < courtc> oh well, guess that failed... 03:26 < josh_> O 03:26 < josh_> er 03:26 < davidc__> we are doing the no-ops thing 03:27 < josh_> ok, I thought you just didn't want *me* to have ops, so I made a separate list of opable nicks. 03:27 < davidc__> no,the bot doesn't get ops either 03:27 < courtc> ok ... 03:27 < aegray> its the fact that you could take ops 03:27 < aegray> ie your code, your server, your control 03:27 < josh_> I see 03:27 < davidc__> how do we know that there's no kick-all-ops backdoor 03:27 < davidc__> besides josh_ there's no reason for it to auto op us... 03:28 < davidc__> chanserv does fine 03:28 < aegray> yay chanserv! 03:28 < josh_> understood 03:28 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~html/iplbot.pl, if any of you want to look at it 03:28 < josh_> wait... 03:28 < josh_> http://www.get-linux.org/~oremanj/iplbot.pl 03:28 < courtc> nm, obviously we are talking about 2 different things... 03:29 * courtc goes to sleep 03:29 < davidc__> eh, perl just looks like line-noise to me 03:29 < davidc__> I won't pretend to understand whats going on/. 03:29 < aegray> haha 03:29 < josh_> lol 03:31 < BleuLlama> back in a few. reboot (added hardware that requires a reboot. :[ ) 03:31 -!- BleuLlama [~sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:31 < davidc__> ptsh 03:31 < josh_> only on windows does changing network settings require a reboot 03:31 < davidc__> hardware requiring a reboot? 03:31 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0006P18.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:31 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0002P23.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 03:31 < davidc__> I've hotswapped PCI cards 03:31 < davidc__> ona desktop 03:31 < meatmanek> hehe 03:31 < davidc__> no hardware needs a reboot 03:31 < josh_> okay, different level there 03:31 < davidc__> I'm not kidding. 03:32 < josh_> I know 03:32 < meatmanek> yeah, I've heard that sometimes works 03:32 < davidc__> it was by accident, but it worked 03:32 < aegray> the os does sometimes 03:32 < josh_> you just have to be much more careful, because you might fry something. 03:32 < josh_> if you short out some pins 03:32 < aegray> i inserted a pci and the whole thing hung 03:32 < josh_> but yeah, it can be done 03:32 < josh_> sometimes 03:32 < josh_> quickly 03:32 < davidc__> heh.. it was just a generic windows machine... I inserted a network cable and it unseated the card 03:32 < davidc__> so I just grabbed the card and plugged it back it 03:32 < davidc__> and it kept on working 03:33 < meatmanek> lol 03:33 < josh_> well, that's the same card 03:33 < josh_> which avoids any OS issues 03:33 < meatmanek> I imagine if you enable PCI hotswapping and properly rmmod the driver before pulling it out 03:34 < meatmanek> it might be possible to do without screwing up anything OS-wise 03:34 < davidc__> yeah.. 03:35 < davidc__> well, some of the pci plug'n'play is done on startup IIRC... but it might work 03:36 < meatmanek> then again, I don't know shit about PCI or low level hardware stuff like that 03:38 < davidc__> meatmanek: unless you're a masochist, stay away from the PCI bus 03:38 < davidc__> I speak from experience 03:39 * aegray masochist 03:39 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 03:39 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-187-162.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 03:41 -!- BleuLlama [~sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 03:41 < aegray> wb BleuLlama 03:41 < BleuLlama> ty 03:54 < linux_inside_v2> goddamn this new guy is shitting me 03:55 < aegray> what? 03:55 < linux_inside_v2> the work experience guy 03:55 < linux_inside_v2> arguing that the psp is a better mp3 player than the ipod 03:55 < aegray> it is 03:55 < aegray> haha 03:56 < linux_inside_v2> how? 03:56 < aegray> i dunno - never used one 03:56 < linux_inside_v2> in the case of just playing mp3s 03:56 < linux_inside_v2> i agree they aer good consoles 03:56 < linux_inside_v2> are* 03:56 < linux_inside_v2> but for mp3 playing they are a tat large and the interface wouldnt compare to that of the ipod 03:57 < linux_inside_v2> http://ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/editorial-sonys-psp-will-conquer-ces-but-not-ipod/ 03:57 < BleuLlama> what does it matter? 03:57 < linux_inside_v2> he always does shit liek this to pick fights with me 03:58 < BleuLlama> well, if you've got a weakness for stupid advocacy fights, then go for it 03:58 < linux_inside_v2> i do 03:58 < aegray> haha 03:58 < linux_inside_v2> thats the problem 03:58 < linux_inside_v2> i bite easy 03:59 < davidc__> linux_inside_v2: ask him if it runs podzilla? 03:59 < davidc__> if not, case closed :) 03:59 < BleuLlama> does it have 7 clock faces to choose from? 04:00 < BleuLlama> can you easily play movies in high resolution with good sound on it? 04:00 < BleuLlama> oh. hmm 04:00 < aegray> haha 04:05 < meatmanek> Heh 04:06 < meatmanek> Have you ever seen the ipod fw's notes viewer's loading screen? 04:06 < josh_> loading screen? didn't think it had one. 04:06 < meatmanek> try putting 200 or so files in the Notes folder. 04:08 < meatmanek> eesh. 04:09 < linux_inside_v2> lol 04:10 < meatmanek> gah. 04:11 < meatmanek> there has to be an easier way. 04:11 * meatmanek experiments with converting every page to a jpeg 04:11 -!- Toxikated [~noway@d207-216-211-182.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:12 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp179969.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:22 -!- linux_inside_v2 [~likei@dsl-38.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has quit [] 04:33 < meatmanek> I've never messed with photos on my iPod Photo 04:33 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:33 < meatmanek> is it possible to zoom in? 04:33 < aegray> yes 04:33 < meatmanek> k 04:33 < Nikosapi> hey hey! 04:33 < meatmanek> good 04:34 * meatmanek just waits for this to finish converting 04:34 < meatmanek> page 190/217 04:34 < Nikosapi> what are you talking aboot? 04:35 < meatmanek> I'm converting a PDF to a bunch of PNGs so I can load them onto my iPod Photo and read them. 04:35 < josh_> interesting 04:35 < Nikosapi> umm i have a program that can convert them to text 04:36 < meatmanek> Yeah 04:36 < meatmanek> but the Notes viewer is pretty crappy. 04:36 < A-K> why don't you just drop them into your notes folder 04:36 < A-K> oh 04:36 < Nikosapi> it's called solidconverterpdf 04:36 < meatmanek> I converted it to txt 04:37 < meatmanek> as one file, it only displays the first page or so 04:37 < josh_> correct, max 4k per file 04:37 < meatmanek> as multiple files, it takes 3 minutes for the Notes viewer to start up. 04:37 < Nikosapi> oh ya but then there's this other program i got that cuts the big file into chunks 04:37 < meatmanek> yeah, linux has great programs that'll do that for you. 04:38 < Nikosapi> wait i'll give you a link 04:38 < meatmanek> ... 04:38 < josh_> (21:37:05) meatmanek: as multiple files, it takes 3 minutes for the Notes viewer to start up. 04:38 < meatmanek> so I'm trying it as 217 images now. 04:38 < Nikosapi> http://nikosapi.no-ip.info/nikosapi/ipod3ebook.htm 04:38 < Nikosapi> it doesn't take any time to load in ipodlinux 04:39 < A-K> but ipodlinux doesn't support html 04:39 < A-K> if that matters in this case 04:39 < meatmanek> it doesn't 04:39 < meatmanek> but ipodlinux also eats battery 04:39 < meatmanek> if it's possible, I'd rather use the iPod fw. 04:40 < Nikosapi> ohh, i never bother with that because then you have to press menu a bunch of time to get out of notes 04:40 < Nikosapi> im talking about the html thing 04:40 < A-K> yeah i know 04:40 < A-K> i played this blackjack game 04:40 < A-K> and i had to press menu like 300 times 04:41 < Nikosapi> heh heh 04:41 < josh_> braindead UI from the UI geniuses 04:42 < Nikosapi> hey i've got a non ipl question: is it possible to change the name of your ipod with out having to re-format? (mine is stuck as IPOD, arg) 04:43 < BleuLlama> yes. just rename it from iTunes. 04:44 < A-K> when you plug your ipod into your comp 04:44 < Nikosapi> gimmie a sec if this works im retarded 04:44 < A-K> your little ipod icon should pop up in itunes 04:44 < A-K> and there should be it's name 04:44 < A-K> and just rename it 04:46 < Nikosapi> nope 04:46 < BleuLlama> in itunes 04:46 < Nikosapi> what menu are you looking in 04:46 < BleuLlama> select the ipod from the left panel, and right click it 04:46 < Nikosapi> im in "ipod options" 04:46 -!- Decipha [~sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #iPodLinux 04:46 < A-K> nikosapi, are you talking about when your in the apple firmware, and you see "iPod" at the top? 04:47 < BleuLlama> did i say menu? I didn't say menu 04:47 < BleuLlama> if you're not going to read, i'm not going to help 04:47 < A-K> there should be a little ipod icon in itunes 04:47 < Nikosapi> i know you didn't say menu 04:47 < A-K> where your playlists are and stuff 04:47 < Nikosapi> yes 04:48 < Nikosapi> just because im from Canada doesn't mean im slow 04:48 < A-K> i'm from canada too 04:48 < A-K> toronto that is 04:48 < Nikosapi> really? 04:48 < A-K> yeah 04:48 < BleuLlama> you can't figure out how to rename an ipod.... 04:48 < Nikosapi> im going there next week 04:48 < Nikosapi> nope 04:48 < A-K> cool 04:48 < A-K> where abouts 04:48 < A-K> in toronto 04:49 < Nikosapi> probably downtown 04:49 < davidc__> A-K: cool... 04:49 < davidc__> I'm in vancouver. 04:49 < Nikosapi> i live im Quebecistan 04:49 < BleuLlama> i'm about 3 hours from toronto 04:49 < A-K> yeah i've been to rochester 04:49 < A-K> and victoria island, but not vancouver 04:49 < A-K> well vancouver too i guess 04:50 < Nikosapi> davidc__ do u ski? 04:50 < davidc__> Nikosapi: a fair amount 04:50 < davidc__> downhill mostly 04:50 < Nikosapi> nice, were? 04:50 < davidc__> weather's been crappy here during the winters though 04:51 < davidc__> sometimes @ whislter 04:51 < meatmanek> on the photo, how do you zoom in? 04:51 < Nikosapi> same here 04:51 < davidc__> usually just on the local mountains 04:51 < Nikosapi> lucky 04:51 < A-K> nikosapi, what hotel are you staying in? 04:51 < Nikosapi> im not staying in a hotel, im staying with one of my dad's friends 04:52 < Nikosapi> and no BleuLlama I can't figure out how to rename an ipod, enlighten me... 04:52 < A-K> hahaha 04:52 < A-K> ok you have itunes right? 04:52 < Nikosapi> yep 04:52 < A-K> plug in your ipod 04:52 < Nikosapi> yep 04:53 < A-K> do you see your ipod icon on the left side? 04:53 < Nikosapi> yep 04:53 < A-K> rename it the same way you would rename a file 04:54 * BleuLlama is amazed by this. 04:54 < Nikosapi> *hangs head in shame* 04:54 < Nikosapi> damn 04:54 < A-K> technology eh 04:54 < Nikosapi> no 04:54 < Nikosapi> my stupidity 04:54 < A-K> how can't you rename it? 04:54 < A-K> you click on the icon's name 04:54 < A-K> wait a couple of seconds 04:54 < meatmanek> aegray, how do you zoom in? 04:55 -!- yanagi [~0t4le@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121548.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 04:55 < aegray> ff and rewind iirc 04:55 < A-K> then click again 04:55 < Nikosapi> no i renamed it 04:55 < yanagi> w00t!!! I got it working 04:55 < aegray> the blind leading the blind..... 04:55 < Nikosapi> haha 04:55 < yanagi> chess on my mini 2g = the cat's ass 04:55 < meatmanek> aegray, hmm. 04:55 < aegray> i might be wrong 04:56 < A-K> i didn't know you could zoom in on photos 04:56 < A-K> then again, i have a 3G 04:57 < Nikosapi> i don't know why but when it comes to software I'm retarded, I get it, but it takes a while. Gimmie a soldering iron and I'm in heaven! 04:57 < meatmanek> aegray, I think you are. 04:57 < aegray> k 04:57 < davidc__> Nikosapi: amen 04:58 < meatmanek> dang. 04:58 < A-K> i was never good with soldering irons 04:58 < meatmanek> it was a nice try, though. 04:58 < davidc__> Nikosapi: well, throw in a scope, logic analyzer, jtag chain :P 04:58 < A-K> i got a 68 in DT 04:58 < Nikosapi> yes! 04:58 < A-K> my metal boat sank after i tried to solder it 05:01 < Nikosapi> hey when I plug in my usb cable in podzilla and I stay in podzilla, the battery is now charging right? 05:01 < aegray> should be 05:01 < A-K> what gen ipod? 05:01 < BleuLlama> from usb? 05:01 < Nikosapi> 4 05:02 < Nikosapi> yep 05:02 < A-K> then it should charge 05:02 < BleuLlama> i thought usb charging in ipodlinux wasn't supported yet... 05:02 < Nikosapi> great! 05:02 < BleuLlama> (just firewire charging?) 05:02 < aegray> BleuLlama: its all on pmu 05:02 < aegray> afaik 05:02 < BleuLlama> nice job. cool. 05:02 < Nikosapi> thats wat i thought 05:02 < Nikosapi> nice 05:02 < A-K> well theres a little charging icon 05:02 < A-K> so try it out 05:03 < Nikosapi> ya i saw the I icon and the cvs has a usb.c file now so I was wondering 05:03 < Nikosapi> now to play some chopper 05:03 < A-K> i love that game 05:04 < meatmanek> o_O 05:04 < meatmanek> I think I discovered a hidden feature 05:04 < meatmanek> or something 05:04 < meatmanek> I don't know 05:04 < Nikosapi> i made it to about 600 once 05:04 < A-K> i've made it further :P 05:04 < A-K> what hidden feature 05:04 < meatmanek> Are there supposed to be "Voice Memos" in the iPod Photo fw? 05:04 < meatmanek> either a hidden feature or I'm dumb 05:05 < A-K> in the apple firmware yes 05:05 < meatmanek> most likely the latter. 05:05 < meatmanek> k. 05:07 -!- sudiv10 [~sudiv10@217.16.29.33] has quit [] 05:08 -!- warter [~warter@p549ABA0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 05:08 < meatmanek> I have determined that there is no satisfactory way to read text files on the iPod. 05:11 < yanagi> I thought it would be cool to go over my perl scripts on it. incomprehensible with the formatting getting fubar'd 05:11 < aegray> its because the ipod hates perl 05:11 < Nikosapi> hun? i love reading ebooks on my ipod 05:11 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit ["pcworkbai2u ( 2 days worth :/ )"] 05:12 < Nikosapi> i read the whole anarchist's cookbook on it 05:15 < Nikosapi> thanks for the help everyone, im going to sleep... bye 05:15 < A-K> do you just put the ebooks in your ipod's notes folder? 05:15 < Nikosapi> yep 05:15 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit ["leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/"] 05:19 < meatmanek> the easier way on linux 05:19 < meatmanek> split --line-bytes=4096 Textfile.txt Prefix- 05:23 -!- linux_inside_v2 [~likei@dsl-38.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:24 < linux_inside_v2> aaaand im back 05:26 < meatmanek> Actually 05:26 < meatmanek> if you split it into 4k chunks 05:27 < meatmanek> it's a lot better than the way I had it before 05:27 < meatmanek> (split into the actual pages from the PDF) 05:27 -!- ScOrPiO-P is now known as X-RAY 05:30 < davidc__> soundscape.mp3 05:31 < davidc__> oops 05:31 < davidc__> sorry 05:31 < davidc__> wrong chan 05:31 < aegray> hahaha 05:31 < davidc__> and yes, its legal. 05:31 < meatmanek> why does it have to load notes? 05:32 < meatmanek> stupid iPod fw 05:41 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:43 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 05:48 -!- yanagi [~0t4le@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121548.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Quit"] 05:50 -!- Flik [~flik@205.250.152.214] has quit [] 05:50 -!- warter [~warter@p549ABA0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 05:52 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:56 < meatmanek> well, 05:56 < meatmanek> I'm bored. 05:56 < meatmanek> time for bed. 05:58 < aegray> can somebody on a photo test something for me and tell me how horrible it is? 05:58 < Decipha> yup, I can 05:58 < aegray> k 05:59 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp179969.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:59 < Decipha> sgclark[@]swiftdsl.com.au 06:00 < Decipha> Am I going to need to use a custom Kernel? Becuase I was just in the process of changing the Kernel anyway 06:01 < aegray> you need the latest kernel 06:01 < aegray> i know it works i just need you to tell me how bad it is 06:04 -!- X-RAY [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Well Be Back Just Got Disconnected By Router"] 06:16 < linux_inside_v2> lol what is it? 06:16 < aegray> wouldn't you like to know... 06:16 < linux_inside_v2> yes i would actually 06:17 < linux_inside_v2> since i have an ipod photo :P 06:17 < aegray> rewritten video player 06:17 < linux_inside_v2> oh ok 06:17 < linux_inside_v2> any new features? 06:17 < aegray> i mean... its completely rewritten from scratch to be better 06:18 < linux_inside_v2> ic.... 06:18 < linux_inside_v2> intriguing 06:20 < linux_inside_v2> man im screwed 06:20 < linux_inside_v2> ive gotta fill in my timesheet and theres 3 hours that i cant remember what i did 06:21 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:21 < ScoTTie> make something up ? 06:21 < linux_inside_v2> lol not so easy to do 06:21 < linux_inside_v2> since i fix computers and stuff 06:22 < ScoTTie> "found some pr0n, and watched it all" 06:22 < linux_inside_v2> i'll just say i had trouble running the updates on some of our computers because the internet is being ghey today 06:22 < ScoTTie> lol you cant remember what you did today ? 06:23 < linux_inside_v2> i can 06:23 < linux_inside_v2> but 3 hours of it is "picture missing" 06:23 < linux_inside_v2> its only 4:30 in the afternoon here too 06:24 < ScoTTie> <-- .au ;) 06:24 < linux_inside_v2> ah ok 06:25 < linux_inside_v2> yeah im in NSW AU 06:25 < ScoTTie> VIC here 06:33 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 06:33 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:38 < linux_inside_v2> decipha: how did it go with the player? 06:52 -!- F-F_ is now known as F-F_^hmf^ 06:54 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-210-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:00 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 07:01 -!- Beeker [~tjwenger@c-24-245-78-146.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 07:08 < Decipha> linux_inside_v2: it's a bit choppy, but I think gray figured out whats going on 07:09 < aegray> wow if i put the display on the cop, its like 2x realtime 07:09 < aegray> (no sound) 07:09 < Decipha> nice. 07:09 < aegray> but we'd need to see what that did for sound... 07:09 < aegray> too late for me 07:09 < aegray> night 07:09 < aegray> again* 07:09 < Decipha> night 07:09 < Decipha> lol 07:11 -!- yanagi [~0t4le@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121548.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 07:12 < yanagi> any big differences between pokezilla and yankeezilla? 07:12 < yanagi> They both seem to have pretty much the same stuff bundled... 07:19 -!- ballistix [~ballistix@60-240-80-156-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #Ipodlinux 07:31 -!- linux_inside_v2 [~likei@dsl-38.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has quit [] 07:54 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:00 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-211-63.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:02 -!- Decipha [~sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [] 08:03 -!- ballistix [~ballistix@60-240-80-156-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:04 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:04 -!- yanagi [~0t4le@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121548.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Quit"] 08:05 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 08:09 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@84.4.0.255] has joined #ipodlinux 08:14 -!- linux_insidev2 [~likei@203-206-250-150.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:14 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:18 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fd7cb.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:18 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E877.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:20 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:33 -!- chux [~chuck@d9-171.rb.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:33 < chux> anyone know how to use gtkpod? 08:35 < originalthp> gtkpod.sf.net 08:38 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 08:41 < chux> any other way of putting files on the ipod without using gtkpod? 08:43 < originalthp> itunes 08:43 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 08:49 < chux> in my iPodControl folder in the ipod..there is only a Device folder...shouldn't there be more? 08:50 < chux> like iTunes folder 08:51 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:51 < originalthp> this is Linux-On-iPod, not Linux-With-iPod channel 08:52 < originalthp> read gtkpod docs and you can use gtkpod 08:53 < chux> its confusing as hell 08:54 < linux_insidev2> then dont use it 08:55 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-210-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["So long and thanks for all the fish."] 08:56 < Pokeon> linux_insidev2, does your reboot still work? 08:58 -!- chux [~chuck@d9-171.rb.gh.centurytel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:02 -!- Decipha [~sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #iPodLinux 09:05 -!- onglipo [~ong@203.101.53.217] has joined #ipodlinux 09:17 < linux_insidev2> pokeon: yeah 09:20 < Pokeon> I guess the new busybox doesnt like mini2g then 09:20 < Decipha> I couldnt get it to work on the Photo 09:21 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-211-63.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:23 < linux_insidev2> http://ipodlinux.org/poweroff_beta 09:24 < Pokeon> Either my busybox dont copy right or it dont like my mini 09:27 < linux_insidev2> follow the steps there 09:27 < linux_insidev2> every one is important 09:27 < Pokeon> ya 09:42 < linux_insidev2> i might work on a windows installer for the poweroff feature 09:43 < onglipo> hiya folks 09:43 < hyarion> linux_insidev2- don't you need to chmod +x busybox? 09:43 < hyarion> can't see any step for it on the wiki 09:44 < linux_insidev2> yes you do :P 09:44 < linux_insidev2> thanks 09:44 < onglipo> modprobe -r sbp2 doesn't seem to get my ipod off the donot remove sign ; any ideas? 09:44 < onglipo> using an ipodphoto usb linux 09:44 < linux_insidev2> is it running off usb or firewire? 09:45 < linux_insidev2> if its usb you can unplug it after unmounting 09:45 < onglipo> oh cool thx 09:45 < linux_insidev2> afaik there is no way to get rid of "Do Not Disconnect" under linux using USB 09:46 < onglipo> i thought you basically power off the usb port from the driver and ipod then removes the stop sign 09:47 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E834.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:47 < onglipo> i guess the modprobe command is not powering off the usbport 09:47 < linux_insidev2> nope 09:47 < linux_insidev2> sbp2 is firewire 09:47 < linux_insidev2> but even if you remove the usb-storage driver it will still say "do not disconnect" 09:48 < linux_insidev2> i always just unmount and remove and its fine 09:48 < linux_insidev2> hyarion: fixed 09:48 < onglipo> just curious how apple manages to do that under windows 09:49 < linux_insidev2> probably sends an eject command 09:49 < linux_insidev2> gimme a sec 09:49 < linux_insidev2> i am gonna try something 09:49 < onglipo> eject really doesnt work from my desktop 09:49 < linux_insidev2> when you type eject /dev/sda? 09:50 < onglipo> i just right clicked on the disk and said eject 09:50 < linux_insidev2> in windows? or linux? 09:51 < onglipo> oops that's wrong i just umounted 09:51 < linux_insidev2> yep 09:51 < linux_insidev2> type this 09:51 < linux_insidev2> eject /dev/sda 09:52 < onglipo> my ipod seems o be on /dev/sde 09:53 < linux_insidev2> well eject /dev/sde 09:53 < linux_insidev2> it just worked on mine 09:53 < onglipo> says /dev/sde is not mounted (according to mtab) 09:53 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 09:53 < onglipo> mount point seems to be /media/usbdisk 09:53 < onglipo> and /media/IPOD 09:54 < linux_insidev2> mount the partition on it then eject it 09:55 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:55 < onglipo> eject /dev/sde -> Seg fault! 09:56 < linux_insidev2> jesus 09:56 < linux_insidev2> what version of linux are you running? 09:56 < onglipo> fc3 09:56 < linux_insidev2> mmm 09:56 < linux_insidev2> wierd 09:57 < linux_insidev2> it works on my laptop and its running debian 09:57 < onglipo> ok - will try figure it. 09:57 < onglipo> anyways; been writing a tone generator = seems to be working fine on my photo 09:58 < onglipo> need some help on others - wonder if anyone is interested 09:58 < linux_insidev2> what sort of tones does it generate? 09:58 < onglipo> oh you go from 20hz to 8k hz. rotate the click wheen to change freq 09:59 < onglipo> and it's in real time - 09:59 < onglipo> table look up 09:59 < linux_insidev2> thats pretty cool 09:59 < onglipo> havent seen the code around for that - so may be useful for quite a few apps 10:00 < onglipo> AND i managed to sense the click wheel speed to make sure you inc/dec in 1s 10s or 100s 10:00 < onglipo> didnt see code for that either 10:00 < onglipo> so may be worth posting 10:00 < linux_insidev2> yeah it would be good 10:00 < linux_insidev2> post it in the forums 10:01 < onglipo> will do 10:20 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:24 < linux_insidev2> who wants to test the poweron installer for windows? i need one guinea pig 10:29 < linux_insidev2> anyone here? 10:34 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 10:34 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:38 < linux_insidev2> are there any devs currently awake? 10:38 -!- ficoos [~saggi@DSL217-132-168-190.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 10:39 < ficoos> hi, I was just wondering what is the difference ipodwise if i use the uclinux 2.4 or 2.6 (speed, features, competability etc.) 10:39 < linux_insidev2> apparently the 2.6 is not working properly on the ipod 10:40 < ficoos> do have any idea why? 10:40 < linux_insidev2> all i know is that there is a bug in something like the ide, i cant remember for sure though 10:41 < ficoos> hmmm... thank you anyway 10:55 -!- _KDE [~stefan@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:56 -!- _KDE [~stefan@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:56 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:16 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:38 -!- ballistix [~Family@60-240-200-69.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:38 -!- ballistix [~Family@60-240-200-69.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 11:40 -!- originalth1 [~thomas@L0007P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 11:41 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0002P23.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:45 < linux_insidev2> are there any devs here awake? 11:53 < linux_insidev2> is anyone here able to mirror a zip file for me? 12:01 -!- ficoos [~saggi@DSL217-132-168-190.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ipodlinux [] 12:04 < hyarion> what is it? 12:07 < linux_insidev2> its the new installer for the poweroff beta i made 12:07 < linux_insidev2> its a start script since its a bit tricky to do without it when you have windows 12:08 < linux_insidev2> i have hosted it with rapidshare but thats limited in download times 12:09 < linux_insidev2> in the amount of times u can download* 12:10 < linux_insidev2> if you have a look at www.ipodlinux.org/Poweroff_beta you will know what i mean 12:17 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:18 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:35 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 12:36 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:38 -!- _Hetfield [Hetfield@197pc195.sshunet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:41 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- aegray_ [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:51 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:55 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 < linux_insidev2> meh ive made my contribution 13:03 < linux_insidev2> i'll see youse guys laters 13:03 -!- linux_insidev2 [~likei@203-206-250-150.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 13:07 -!- BamaWOLF [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:19 -!- mgla [~mgla@p508C455C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:20 -!- kandalf [~kandalf@cable244a196.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #ipodlinux 13:21 < kandalf> hi there 13:21 < kandalf> just one thing 13:21 < kandalf> if 4 GB miniIpods are unsupported 13:21 < kandalf> how were the screenshots taken? 13:21 -!- Decipha [~sgclark@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:23 < rage> Using unsupported versions of iPod Linux 13:24 < kandalf> and how can I get those versions? 13:25 < rage> Download it from the CVS and compile 13:27 < kandalf> ok 13:27 < kandalf> would they be shortly supported? 13:27 < rage> I have no idea 13:27 < kandalf> ok 13:28 < kandalf> thanks 13:28 < rage> no problem :_) 13:33 -!- kandalf [~kandalf@cable244a196.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ["Abandonando"] 13:36 -!- aegray_ [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:37 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:43 -!- acL [~acL@p54AA902A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 13:43 -!- aegray_ [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:44 -!- aegray_ is now known as aegray 13:45 < BleuLlama> podcast episode 5 is out! :D 13:46 -!- iPodLinux [~ircont9k@pcp08659903pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 13:46 < aegray> cool! 13:46 < aegray> you cannot join your own room - it's an irc rule damnit 13:48 -!- acL [~acL@p54AA902A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 13:54 < _KDE> where's the iplbot? 13:54 < aegray> hold on 13:56 < BleuLlama> new iBooks and Mac Minis released today. (if any of you care) 13:56 < meatmanek> hm. 13:56 < meatmanek> how fast 13:56 < BleuLlama> 12 13:56 < BleuLlama> http://www.apple.com 13:57 < meatmanek> builtin wireless, eh? 13:57 < meatmanek> that's cool 13:58 -!- iplbot [~ircbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:59 < meatmanek> don't have to spend an extra $50 or $100 to get airport. 14:00 < meatmanek> never mind, it's optional. 14:00 < meatmanek> gah. 14:00 < meatmanek> bastards. 14:01 < BleuLlama> um 14:01 < BleuLlama> the 12 and 14 have "built in airport extreme" and "built in bluetooth 2.0" 14:02 < meatmanek> I was talking about the mini 14:02 < meatmanek> but cool. 14:02 < BleuLlama> it's only optional in the bottom model. the mid and high end minis both come with it 14:02 < meatmanek> aha. 14:05 < hyarion> anyone know about a nice c++ info/tutorial/howto site? 14:05 < hyarion> have some problems with method pointers :/ 14:06 < hyarion> c++ is killing me :( 14:06 < meatmanek> function pointers, you mean? 14:06 < originalth1> hyarion: www.google.com/search?q=c++ 14:07 < originalth1> of course, urlencode the "++" 14:08 < hyarion> meatmanek- member functions 14:08 < meatmanek> oh, hmm. 14:08 < hyarion> I know, just wondering if anyone had a nice url (besides google) 14:08 < meatmanek> you might ask in ##c++ 14:09 < hyarion> and say: I F**ING HATE C++? 14:09 < aegray> why do you need method pointers in c++? 14:09 * aegray misses the point 14:09 < hyarion> it's kinda ugly :P 14:11 < hyarion> I want to call a undefined method on a undefined object 14:11 < aegray> why? 14:11 < aegray> explain to me what your program does and why you need this? 14:12 < hyarion> I think I should redesign the algoritm... 14:14 < hyarion> the problem is that I want to do object orientated callbacks... 14:14 < BleuLlama> ugh 14:14 < hyarion> worked fine with plain C funcs 14:14 < BleuLlama> why not just have a specified callback object that has an entry point on it to be called 14:14 < BleuLlama> then just inherit from that class 14:15 < BleuLlama> and pass that in to the calling class... 14:15 < hyarion> that's one way to do it yes 14:15 < hyarion> but what if I want to have more methods in tho same class? 14:16 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:16 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:16 < BleuLlama> then just call the other methods? i don't see the problem 14:16 < aegray> you can add to a class that inherits 14:16 < aegray> there's no problem there 14:17 -!- garrett [~garrett@130.57.22.69] has joined #ipodlinux 14:19 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 14:19 < BleuLlama> shuttle launch in 18 minutes 14:19 < hyarion> shuttle? 14:20 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:20 < BleuLlama> space shuttle. http://www.nasa.gov 14:20 < hyarion> a 14:23 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:24 < meatmanek> heh 14:24 * meatmanek watches the cast 14:26 * admiralfrijole races the countdown, gotta get realone and stuff 14:26 < meatmanek> Don't tell me NASA ran out of bandwidth... 14:26 < meatmanek> it's being really slow 14:26 * admiralfrijole chuckles 14:26 < meatmanek> why does realplayer suck? 14:27 * meatmanek listens to the audio instead. 14:27 < t0mas> it's a GO 14:27 < t0mas> :) 14:27 < meatmanek> hurry up damnit... 14:28 < BleuLlama> there's a wmv feed to. might be able to get that working in vlc or mplayer... 14:28 * t0mas just installed realplayer for linux 14:34 < meatmanek> Akamai is having problems... 14:34 < meatmanek> wtf. 14:34 < admiralfrijole> rofl 14:34 < admiralfrijole> BEHOLD THE POWER OF GEEKS 14:34 < meatmanek> they're the biggest webhost on the internet 14:35 -!- onglipo [~ong@203.101.53.217] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:44 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 14:54 < _KDE> ~_KDE 14:54 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 < aegray> has to be in a pm 14:55 < Nikosapi> hello 14:55 < aegray> hello 14:56 < Nikosapi> do u sleep? 14:56 < aegray> rarely 14:56 < Nikosapi> jeeze 14:56 * aegray pretty tired 14:57 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-67-93.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 14:57 < BleuLlama> i get about 8 hours of sleep 14:57 < BleuLlama> over the course of 3 days 14:57 < aegray> haha 14:57 < Nikosapi> heh 14:58 < iPodLinux> cya 14:58 -!- iPodLinux [~ircont9k@pcp08659903pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"] 14:58 < Nikosapi> bye 14:58 < aegray> ipodlinux is done? 14:58 < meatmanek> lol. 14:59 < meatmanek> Heh 14:59 < meatmanek> my dad was updating something on the iMac G5 15:00 < BleuLlama> HAHAHAHAHA. YOU are SO FUNNY, aegray. I mean... like HILARIOUSLY FUNNY! 15:00 < Nikosapi> nice a G5 15:00 < meatmanek> fans were going full-blast, it sounded like a vacuum cleaner. 15:00 < meatmanek> except a few decibels quieter. 15:00 < BleuLlama> could've been worse... could've been an X-Serve. those things are LOUD 15:01 < meatmanek> heh 15:01 < meatmanek> they don't design servers to be pretty 15:01 < meatmanek> they design them to work 15:01 < BleuLlama> no 15:01 < BleuLlama> they don't design them to be quiet desktop machines... they DO design them to be pretty 15:01 < BleuLlama> so that you can impress people through the window of your server room 15:01 < BleuLlama> ;) 15:02 < Nikosapi> are the fans often spinning that fast or only when the computer's doing some heavy processing? 15:04 < meatmanek> I've never heard them that loud before. 15:04 < BleuLlama> only on heavy load 15:04 < BleuLlama> they usually are spinning pretty slowly... you can see them throguh the front grille, 15:05 < BleuLlama> and you can see the blades of the fan moving... they're not a blur 15:05 < meatmanek> (mine's an iMac G5) 15:05 < meatmanek> (not a g5 tower) 15:05 < Nikosapi> ya, I get to stare at the g5 a my local computer store 15:05 < BleuLlama> ah 15:06 < Nikosapi> you can't touch but you can look says the manager 15:06 < admiralfrijole> wtf you cant touch 15:06 * admiralfrijole regularly pulls the door off at the apple store 15:06 < Nikosapi> ya, *store policy* 15:06 < admiralfrijole> then again, it helps i'm on the payroll :-p 15:06 < Nikosapi> it's not an apple store 15:07 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:08 * meatmanek should apply for a job at the Apple store 15:08 < meatmanek> any age limits? 15:08 < admiralfrijole> 18 15:08 < meatmanek> damn. 15:08 -!- danalien is now known as TheGrimSqueaker 15:08 < Nikosapi> have any of you ever showed ipodlinux to the employees at the apple store? 15:08 < admiralfrijole> several of us have it on our iPods :-p 15:09 < admiralfrijole> ive showed most of my managers video playback and they think its freakin awesome 15:09 < Nikosapi> thats cool 15:10 < aegray> yay! 15:10 < BleuLlama> i should add MacOS 6/7 decorations to the appearance. 15:10 < admiralfrijole> BleuLlama: ooooooh man make podzilla platinum.... that would be soooooo awesome 15:10 < BleuLlama> or rather macos 9 with monochrome support 15:10 < BleuLlama> podzilla platinum? huh? 15:11 < Nikosapi> for us non-color users 15:11 < BleuLlama> is that what the old appearance was called? 15:11 < admiralfrijole> platinum, yeah 15:11 < BleuLlama> ah 15:11 < meatmanek> in os 9, yes. 15:12 < Nikosapi> ooo on the subject of apperance, where is the settings file stored? 15:12 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 15:13 < BleuLlama> /dev/null/settings i believe 15:13 < Nikosapi> let me check it out 15:15 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:19 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:19 < Nikosapi> doesn't seem to be there, I made a start file that had this in it "cp /dev/null/settings /hp" and the settings file didn't show up 15:20 < Nikosapi> mind you im probably doing something wrong 15:20 < Nikosapi> like usual 15:20 < aegray> put in your start file - cat /dev/null > /dev/hda3 15:21 < BleuLlama> it's a directory, so you need cp -r 15:21 < aegray> wait - Nikosapi thats wrong 15:21 < aegray> sorry 15:21 < Nikosapi> can i ask what is /dev/null <-- what device is null? 15:22 < BleuLlama> read a unix tutorial 15:22 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:22 < Nikosapi> alright 15:22 < BleuLlama> if you don't know what /dev/null is, you probably shouldn't be working with linux on your ipod 15:24 < Nikosapi> ok, so basicaly it's nothing 15:24 < aegray> haha 15:25 < jedix> dd it to a file 15:25 < Nikosapi> im, learning, infact ipodlinux has taught me so much about basic commands and how to write simple scripts 15:25 < Nikosapi> thanks 15:25 < aegray> ~good joke 15:25 < iplbot> HAHAHAHA 15:26 < Nikosapi> ha ha 15:27 < Nikosapi> here we go again, im confused 15:27 < aegray> about? 15:28 < Nikosapi> linux, i hate being such a newb 15:28 < aegray> so do i 15:29 < Nikosapi> right, coming from the guy who has done so much for ipl 15:29 < aegray> i still don't know linux very well 15:30 < aegray> i went in ##linux yesterday and asked if there was a way to have a window on all desktops 15:30 < Nikosapi> if you say so 15:30 < aegray> thats pretty lame 15:30 < aegray> just keep trying and you'll get it 15:30 < aegray> or get linux on your pc 15:30 < aegray> it makes it a thousand times easier 15:31 < Nikosapi> funny thing, 3 out of my 4 pc's have linux on them 15:32 < aegray> you use those for ipodlinux right? 15:32 < aegray> because windows makes it hell 15:32 < aegray> unless you want to install the base which is supported, windows sucks for anything unsupported 15:32 < Nikosapi> yep, linux runs so much fatser on slow pcs 15:32 < aegray> damn straight - and on fast pc's too 15:32 < Nikosapi> of course 15:33 * aegray 1.6G centrino running windows inside vmware 15:33 < BleuLlama> 132 mhz PPC 601e 15:33 < aegray> if only i knew power pc chips 15:34 < BleuLlama> just find an old PowerMac 7500/7600 AV and install yellowdog Linux on it... 15:34 < Nikosapi> wow thats old 15:34 < BleuLlama> do video capture over its built-in composite or s-video port 15:34 < Nikosapi> sweet 15:34 < BleuLlama> the 7500/7600 (perhaps all desktop macs from that era?) have two scsi chains. one internal, one external 15:35 < BleuLlama> i used to use one for my personal server up until about 3 weeks ago 15:36 < BleuLlama> 7500 with three 4gb scsi disks, (two of which were externals) and a full-height 5.25" 9gig disk. 15:36 < BleuLlama> it was loud and hot 15:36 < BleuLlama> (the whole thing) 15:36 < BleuLlama> replaced it with a Mac Cube running 10.4.2, with an 80gb disk 15:36 < BleuLlama> :D 15:37 < Nikosapi> nice 15:37 < Nikosapi> I'm off to eat lunch, bye! 15:38 < aegray> bye 15:44 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:45 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 15:45 -!- F-F_^hmf^ is now known as F-F_ 15:46 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:50 -!- CIA-4 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:51 -!- CIA-4 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 15:58 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8986B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:58 < Sereroku> hm why doesnt linux work with the new iPod FW? 15:58 < Sereroku> o.O 15:59 < Sereroku> googleearthhacks bricht grad zusammen xD 16:01 < aegray> on which ipod? 16:01 < Sereroku> wah 16:01 < Sereroku> 4G aegray 16:01 < Sereroku> ah 16:01 < Sereroku> works now 16:01 < Sereroku> ;) 16:02 < aegray> cool 16:02 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__ 16:08 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 16:18 -!- DiffZ [~bla@cc107117-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 16:19 < DiffZ> hi guys :) 16:20 < aegray> hi 16:22 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 16:24 < DiffZ> is there a way to restore an ipod without using the apple software? 16:24 < aegray> if you have a firmware image...yes 16:25 < aegray> but the firmware image comes from the apple software usually 16:25 < aegray> so the only way to get the firmware image is a) have someone give it to you or b) extract it from their software 16:25 < DiffZ> well i've got an ipod mini with a empty flahcard 16:25 < aegray> empty flashcard? 16:25 < aegray> how do you get that? 16:25 < aegray> and how do you know? 16:25 < DiffZ> the harddrive died (after dropping it onto a very hard floor) 16:26 < aegray> did you get a new harddrive? 16:26 < DiffZ> to expesive 16:26 < BleuLlama> microdrives aren't that bad these days 16:26 < aegray> so you want to use your ipod without a harddrive? 16:26 < DiffZ> i'm gonna buy a new a new mp3 player 16:26 < aegray> DiffZ: so what do you want to do with the ipod? 16:27 < DiffZ> play with it :) 16:27 < aegray> without the harddrive i don't really know how you can :/ 16:27 < aegray> unless you know how to hook up stuff to the actual hardwear 16:27 < aegray> ware* 16:27 < DiffZ> i got a 512mb compact flasf disc 16:27 < DiffZ> compact flash 16:27 < aegray> does that use the same pinformat as a microdrive? 16:28 * aegray doesn't know 16:28 < DiffZ> microdrive is a compact flash disc 16:28 < BleuLlama> best we can suggest is put the partition table on there the way apple firmware expects, and hope it works. i don't think anyone's really done that 16:28 < DiffZ> BleuLlama: yeah :) 16:28 < BleuLlama> you won't be able to get any help from us on this 16:28 < BleuLlama> have fun. come back when it works 16:29 < DiffZ> ipodlinux depends on apple firmware thats on the disc ? 16:29 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 16:29 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8986B.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:29 < aegray> it depends on the bootloader loading our bootloader thats stored on the first harddrive partition 16:29 < aegray> so kindsa 16:30 < DiffZ> i see :) 16:30 < hyarion> actually cf is the same format as ide :P 16:30 < DiffZ> :P 16:30 -!- acs [~acs@212.170.148.153] has joined #ipodlinux 16:30 < aegray> cool - yea - just create the right partition structure and you should be fine then 16:30 < DiffZ> windows is able to see the ipod as an external drive 16:30 < BleuLlama> s/format/interface/ 16:30 < DiffZ> but the ipod reboots 16:31 < aegray> the ipod reboots when what? 16:31 < DiffZ> he try's to do something on the disc 16:31 < DiffZ> since its empty it reboots 16:31 < aegray> when you have the flash card installed? 16:32 < DiffZ> yeah 16:32 < aegray> fdisk it 16:32 < DiffZ> but windows finds a mass storage device 16:32 < BleuLlama> and you set up the correct partition table? 16:32 < DiffZ> well its the partation table :) 16:32 < aegray> what? 16:32 < DiffZ> i mean 16:32 < DiffZ> how i should partition the disc 16:33 < aegray> use fdisk 16:33 < DiffZ> i know 16:33 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has quit [Client Quit] 16:33 < DiffZ> size of the first partition 16:33 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 16:34 < BleuLlama> the partition information is available on the net 16:34 < BleuLlama> have fun 16:34 * BleuLlama afk 16:34 < DiffZ> thx 16:34 -!- iplbot [~ircbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:36 < Nikosapi> DiffZ check this http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/embedded_storage/cf100 16:36 < Nikosapi> or everything else on this page http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/embedded_storage 16:37 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871082.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 16:37 < DiffZ> thx 16:37 * DiffZ is gonna get some food 16:38 < A-K> hyarion, about the save feature in nxsnake. do you recomend that i add those lines into nxsnake.c? 16:38 * Nikosapi is going to the store to get more food 16:40 < hyarion> A-K- I can do it for you if you tell me where I can find the src 16:40 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 16:41 < A-K> if you could also make a patch for it, that would be great, so i could see what you did and learn from it 16:41 < hyarion> sure 16:41 < hyarion> where can I get it? 16:41 < hyarion> url? 16:42 < A-K> 1 sec 16:42 < A-K> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Nxsnake.tgz 16:45 < hyarion> have to eat something first :) 16:45 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 16:53 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-234-44.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:03 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 17:04 < A-K> i'm having problems with the poweroff beta 17:05 < A-K> i extracted the busybox stuff for windows onto my ipod, but when i reboot something happens 17:05 < A-K> this is the message: Could not run 'etc/rc': No such file or directory No more tasks for init -- sleeping forever. 17:07 < aegray> chmod+x /etc/rc 17:07 < aegray> and the first line in /etc/rc must be #!/bin/sh 17:07 < A-K> chmod+x /etc/rc was in the start file 17:08 < aegray> is the first line of rc #!/bin/sh? 17:08 < A-K> yup 17:08 < aegray> goto #ipodlinux.flood and paste your start file and rc 17:13 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:15 < Nikosapi> did somebody make a wiki entry for the poweroff feature because the wiki search doesn't seem to be working... 17:15 < meatmanek> google's search function still works, though 17:15 < Nikosapi> of course 17:15 < Nikosapi> sorry, thanks 17:17 -!- acs [~acs@212.170.148.153] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 17:19 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 17:19 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180147168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:25 < Nikosapi> allright me can't find it, is there a wiki enty? A-K were are you getting your instructions from? 17:26 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Poweroff_beta 17:27 < Nikosapi> THANK YOU 17:28 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:32 < meatmanek> Gah. 17:32 * meatmanek gives up on hfsplus and formats his iPod vfat. 17:32 < aegray> good 17:33 < Nikosapi> WooHoo it works!!! 17:34 < Nikosapi> funny, I did the same thing yesterday with aegray's instructions and it didn't work 17:34 < aegray> yea sure...blame aegray 17:35 < Nikosapi> no, i must have done something wrong because your instructions and the start file in the .zip file are the same 17:37 < aegray> haha 17:37 < aegray> thats because it was written from my instructions 17:38 < Nikosapi> ya, probably... me slow, lol 17:40 < A-K> wait 17:40 < A-K> nikosapi 17:40 < A-K> you got it to work? 17:40 < aegray> wait 17:41 < Nikosapi> yep 17:41 < meatmanek> gah 17:41 < A-K> how come it didn't work with mine then? 17:41 < Nikosapi> what is your generation 17:41 < A-K> 3 17:41 < meatmanek> is it possible to format the iPod vfat using graphical tools from apple? 17:41 < meatmanek> or should I just mkfs.vfat it? 17:41 < Nikosapi> maybe thats why mine's 4 17:42 < A-K> urg 17:43 < A-K> i had to reinstal linux 17:43 < meatmanek> that is 17:43 < meatmanek> if I can figure out what the command is to make a vfat fs in OS X 17:43 < Nikosapi> that sucks 17:43 < A-K> oh crap, now i have to make a start file to put my like 30 fonts back in /usr/ 17:44 < Nikosapi> put all your fonts in one folder and type cp /hp/fonts/* /usr/share/fonts 17:45 < meatmanek> Is there any way to format the iPod vfat from OS X or should I do this from my linux box? 17:45 < aegray> mkfs.vfat? 17:45 < aegray> or does that not exist on mac 17:46 < meatmanek> doesn't exist. 17:47 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 17:48 < Nikosapi> marshmellow bananas are soo good.... 17:49 < aegray> i disagree. I think that marshmallow pineapples are soo good.... 17:49 < Nikosapi> never had them 17:49 < aegray> neither have i 17:49 < A-K> its all about the peak freans cookies 17:49 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 < Nikosapi> ohh i was serious 17:50 < Nikosapi> about the bananas 17:50 < A-K> with the little jelly red thing with sugar in the middle 17:50 < aegray> i know 17:50 < Nikosapi> just making sure 17:50 < A-K> and how about those blue jays? 17:51 < Nikosapi> I don't like baseball 17:51 < A-K> same 17:51 < Nikosapi> curling on the other hand.... 17:51 < A-K> hahah 17:51 < Nikosapi> i want to play one day 17:52 < Nikosapi> such an easy sport 17:52 < A-K> nikosapi, you know how you said put all your fonts in a folder called fonts? 17:52 < Nikosapi> yep 17:52 < A-K> would it work the sam with a folder called usr? 17:52 < Nikosapi> sure just change your start file to cp /hp/usr/* /usr/share/fonts 17:53 < A-K> but then i have to type all the fonts in right? 17:54 < Nikosapi> no 17:54 < Nikosapi> the * means your copying everything from that folder 17:55 < A-K> really 17:55 < A-K> i didn't know that 17:55 < A-K> oh man, i really got to stop using futureyankees stuff 17:56 < Nikosapi> i just learnt that a week ago too 17:56 < A-K> my laptop got messed so i had to use someone elses source 17:56 < A-K> futureyankee's is always so sketchy 17:56 < BleuLlama> that's one of the first things i learned on day one. simple shell stuff. 17:56 < Nikosapi> ahh 17:57 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:57 < BleuLlama> hmm. wow. i forgot i gave an "intro to unix" seminar back around 1993 or so. heh. 17:59 < aegray> i read - around 1933 or so.. 17:59 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:59 < A-K> i haven't ever really been usre of what unix is/was 17:59 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 < Nikosapi> you know in the new aperance menu, the inverted color option. How good can that be for your lcd? because after about 20min of my ipod being on with the invert on, I watched a video and there were faint lines on the screen.. I rebooted and turned off the color invert and it's gone back to normal. 17:59 < A-K> *waiting for breif history lesson* 17:59 < BleuLlama> heh. what's that like 36 years before unix was created? 17:59 < BleuLlama> heh 18:01 < A-K> yah the inverted appearance looks cool, but it burns an image onto your lcd 18:01 < BleuLlama> niko: the lcd streaks sometimes... it's just the way it works... it's a passive LCD, not active, so you get artifacts like that occasoinally 18:01 < A-K> and your ipod gets hot really fast 18:01 < BleuLlama> i've never heard of it getting hot... 18:01 < Nikosapi> ahh thats wat i thought, still a kool feature 18:01 < A-K> personally i like the inverted look 18:02 < A-K> but because i used futuryanks src 18:02 < A-K> it didn't work proparly 18:02 < Nikosapi> i love history lessons like that! There's a movie called revolutions os that's about how GNU and linux were started, it's quite interesting... 18:02 < A-K> hahaha 18:05 < admiralfrijole> its awesome 18:06 < Nikosapi> what, the movie? 18:06 < admiralfrijole> yeah 18:06 < Nikosapi> i concur 18:06 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 18:07 < admiralfrijole> we watched it as a LUG meeting a while back, the guy next to me sent an email to his next door neighbor while we were watching "hey man, just saw your interview in revolutionos, awesome!" 18:07 < meatmanek> Sonofa... 18:08 < Nikosapi> wow, who was his neighbor? 18:08 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@ti221110a080-6487.bb.online.no] has joined #iPodLinux 18:08 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08 < admiralfrijole> Nikosapi: i dont remember now 18:08 < Nikosapi> thats still pretty kool 18:09 < meatmanek> GAH 18:09 < admiralfrijole> but living in raleigh, lug meets in durham, its pretty cliose to a lot of history, we meet at the RH HQ now 18:09 < meatmanek> fcking iPod. 18:09 < admiralfrijole> we've had tiemann at a couple, and szulik or whatever his anme is too, and bob young 18:09 < admiralfrijole> bob's coming again in a couple months 18:09 < Nikosapi> sweet, your lucky 18:10 < admiralfrijole> yeah, if only the LUG on campus was any fgood, 10 years old last year, and almost dead 18:10 < Nikosapi> im far from the uk 18:10 < Nikosapi> that sucks 18:10 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:11 < admiralfrijole> anyawy, enough abuot that... lots of people have been really excited about ipl, and even non-technical customers have brought it up to me, asking about recording and stuff 18:11 < aegray> did they bring up the flashing arrows? 18:11 < Nikosapi> people in europe are much more into open source and linux than in north america, i wonder why... 18:12 < Nikosapi> when i was in italy no one had windows 18:12 < Nikosapi> it was like heaven 18:13 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@ti221110a080-6487.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 18:13 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 < meatmanek> AAAAAAAAAAGH 18:15 < meatmanek> do I have to do this through windows? 18:16 < meatmanek> Anyone? 18:17 < aegray> what? 18:17 < meatmanek> why does vfat hate me 18:17 * aegray throws popcorn at meatmanek 18:17 < Nikosapi> you don't have to but it'd be easier 18:17 < meatmanek> gah. 18:17 * meatmanek goes to start over. 18:23 -!- warter [~warter@p549ABBF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #iPodLinux 18:28 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:28 -!- [mbm] [~[mbm]@24-247-171-106.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:29 * meatmanek goes to see if there's a windows laptop in the house. 18:31 < meatmanek> damnit. 18:32 -!- Johnny99 [~pola@65.97.173.254] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 < aegray> damn you 18:35 * corpix punches in meatmanek's face 18:35 < meatmanek> hmm. 18:35 * aegray thanks corpix 18:35 < meatmanek> ow. 18:35 * meatmanek kicks in corpix's balls. 18:35 * aegray knows that corpix is wearing a cup 18:36 * meatmanek kicks harder. 18:36 * corpix screams, try your best whore 18:36 < A-K> CYBER FIGHT! 18:36 * meatmanek stabs corpix in the face. 18:37 < meatmanek> in any case 18:37 < aegray> shutup 18:37 * corpix dripps some acid in meatmanek eyes 18:37 * meatmanek puts on goggles. 18:37 < corpix> ... too late 18:37 < corpix> muahahahha 18:37 < meatmanek> I work 30 seconds in the past. 18:37 * corpix watches meatmanek rubbing his eyes 18:38 * meatmanek reboots into knoppix so he can do this 18:38 < meatmanek> I don't feel like recompiling my kernel to have mac partition support right now 18:38 < aegray> then reformat 18:38 < corpix> get vfat 18:38 < aegray> eat lots of fatty foods 18:39 < corpix> hehe, why that ? 18:39 < aegray> vfat = very fat 18:39 < corpix> oh 18:39 < meatmanek> mac partition support so my kernel can tell that there are really 2 partitions - 18:39 < meatmanek> the firmware and the data partition 18:39 < meatmanek> right now it just shows up as /dev/sdb 18:39 < meatmanek> so I can't back up my firmware. 18:40 < aegray> yea you should probably recompile that 18:40 < aegray> or just compile the module 18:40 < meatmanek> there is no module for mac partition support. 18:40 < meatmanek> (and I'm not talking about hfsplus) 18:40 < meatmanek> mac-style partitions is a kernel option 18:40 < meatmanek> and I've had trouble with it in the past 18:40 < meatmanek> it doesn't like me. 18:40 < corpix> damn, recompile the kernel, how long would it take ? 20 minutes ? 18:40 < meatmanek> I enable it, install the kernel, boot, 18:40 < corpix> i do it all the time 18:40 < meatmanek> the kernel gives me errors and doesn't boot. 18:41 < meatmanek> well, being on a 500 pIII kinda increases that time 18:41 * meatmanek reboots into knoppix.3 18:41 < Nikosapi> i love fatty foods, maybe that's why I'm a fatass.... 18:41 < corpix> eeek 18:41 < Nikosapi> lol 18:41 < corpix> Nikosapi: how fat ? 18:41 < aegray> a deuce - deuce and a half 18:42 < Nikosapi> fat enough 18:42 < Nikosapi> lol 18:42 < Nikosapi> kidding 18:42 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 < aegray> shutup fatass 18:42 < aegray> ooo jk 18:42 < corpix> whoah 18:42 < corpix> ;) 18:42 < Nikosapi> lol 18:43 < Nikosapi> im sad because i can contribute to this lovely conversation, i want a mac! 18:43 < aegray> i don't! 18:43 < corpix> macs are suspect to me 18:43 < Nikosapi> why not 18:43 < corpix> they stink 18:44 < aegray> because I heard they kidnap your family and rob you blind 18:44 < aegray> thats what my dad says 18:44 * aegray dad works for microsoft 18:44 < aegray> ok thats a lie too 18:44 < Nikosapi> yes but microsoft does all that AND rapes your dog 18:44 < aegray> my dog likes that though 18:44 < admiralfrijole> omg i am so editing that up to cheal out the non-relevant junk and putting it to bash.org 18:45 < aegray> which? 18:45 < Nikosapi> lol 18:45 < admiralfrijole> hang on ill post what it is before i submit it 18:45 < aegray> if this is how bash.org works, i have a feeling its a bunch of asses like me purposely acting stupid 18:46 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871082.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:46 < admiralfrijole> http://members.trilug.org/tripaste/53 18:47 < Nikosapi> lol 18:49 -!- onglipo [~ong@203.101.48.144] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 < corpix> bbl 18:51 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 18:53 < Nikosapi> bbl bye! 18:53 -!- Nikosapi [~1c1cc557@ip-167.36.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit ["leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/"] 18:53 < aegray> bye fatman! 18:54 < onglipo> hi folks 18:54 < aegray> hello sir 18:55 < onglipo> i've been working on an audio generator - seems to work fine on my ipod photo 18:55 < aegray> what kind of audio generator? 18:55 < onglipo> 20hz to 4k hz continous 18:55 < aegray> cool 18:55 < onglipo> look-up table for sine 18:55 < onglipo> seems to work in real time 18:56 < onglipo> what's best way to post it on the forums? 18:56 < aegray> create a patch and post it in the release announcements thread 18:56 < aegray> and you can email us a patch too 18:57 < onglipo> so i just post the .c? 18:57 < aegray> is it part of podzilla or a separate program? 18:57 < onglipo> podzilla 18:57 < aegray> then create a patch 18:57 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Patches iirc 18:58 < aegray> make a sound composer! 18:58 < onglipo> cant we just upload the .c file 18:59 < aegray> i mean yea if you want 18:59 < onglipo> forum post doesn't seem to have an upload 18:59 < aegray> you upload it to the wiki then get a link from there 19:00 < onglipo> do i just post a message in the release announcements? 19:00 < aegray> yea pretty much - look at how other people did it 19:00 < aegray> usually you generate a patch against the current podzilla and post the patch 19:01 < onglipo> ok - i'll go thru the patch link 19:01 < onglipo> thks 19:01 < aegray> yep 19:05 < meatmanek> gotta love knoppix. 19:07 -!- virtualball [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- virtualball is now known as virtualball_ 19:11 < virtualball_> /msg nickserv link 19:13 < meatmanek> uh 19:13 < meatmanek> 1. You want to actually message nickserv 19:13 < aegray> your password is apple? 19:13 < meatmanek> 2. you probably don't want the < >'s. 19:13 < virtualball_> umm no 19:13 < virtualball_> im new to IRC 19:14 -!- aegray is now known as virtualball 19:14 < meatmanek> 3. you'll want to register virtualball_ first 19:14 < virtualball> haha 19:14 < virtualball_> very funny 19:14 -!- virtualball__ [~ianmeyer@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- virtualball is now known as aegray 19:15 < aegray> hehe 19:15 < meatmanek> aegray, did you change the pass? 19:15 < aegray> no..... 19:15 < aegray> hahahaha 19:15 < aegray> muhuahhaa 19:15 -!- virtualball__ [~ianmeyer@dargo.trilug.org] has quit [Client Quit] 19:15 < meatmanek> lol. 19:15 < admiralfrijole> lol 19:15 -!- virtualball_ is now known as virtualball 19:16 < aegray> haha 19:16 < virtualball> ok is changed 19:16 * aegray confused 19:16 * admiralfrijole also 19:16 < hyarion> and change your password to somthing that isn't apple, mac, osx, linux or ipodlinux :P 19:16 < aegray> you got it back? 19:17 < virtualball> i did :-D 19:17 < aegray> haha 19:17 < meatmanek> aegray, ghost him. 19:17 < aegray> how'd you do that? 19:17 -!- virtualball [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:17 < aegray> haha 19:17 < meatmanek> heehee. 19:17 < meatmanek> we are bastards. 19:17 < aegray> i know 19:17 -!- virtualball_ [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:17 < aegray> ok ok i stop 19:18 < virtualball_> lol 19:18 < virtualball_> its not that anymore 19:18 < aegray> the whole line 19:19 < meatmanek> gah. 19:19 < aegray> haha 19:19 < meatmanek> updating songs is slow 19:19 < virtualball_> hey I have a question 19:19 < aegray> yea? 19:19 < meatmanek> Too bad. 19:19 < meatmanek> no questions allowed. 19:20 < virtualball_> is anyone on a mac? 19:20 < admiralfrijole> i am 19:20 < aegray> lots of people 19:20 < meatmanek> yes 19:20 < hyarion> me too 19:20 < virtualball_> do you build podzilla? 19:21 < hyarion> yes 19:21 < virtualball_> when i get to the last step and do "make IPOD=1" it says "Makefile:13: *** missing separator. Stop." 19:21 < virtualball_> Do you know how to fix that? 19:22 < meatmanek> stop sucking. 19:22 < hyarion> what's on line 13? 19:22 < virtualball_> # ipod - jpeg library built for ipod 19:22 < hyarion> ehh 19:22 < virtualball_> wait nvm its "<<<<<<<<< Makefile" 19:24 < hyarion> sure? 19:24 < virtualball_> can anyone help? 19:25 < aegray> what's your question again? 19:25 < hyarion> it's not working help? 19:25 < hyarion> something like that 19:25 < virtualball_> when i get to the last step and do "make IPOD=1" it says "Makefile:13: *** missing separator. Stop." and the 13th line in makefile is "<<<<<<<<< Makefile" 19:27 < aegray> remove that line i guess 19:27 < aegray> i don't know what makefile your using that has that 19:27 < virtualball_> lemme try 19:27 < hyarion> where did you get that Makefile from? /dev/random? 19:28 < aegray> seriously 19:28 < virtualball_> no i just followed the building podzilla wiki page 19:28 < aegray> where did you get that Makefile from? 19:28 < virtualball_> now it says "Makefile:13: *** empty variable name. Stop." 19:29 * admiralfrijole commences to fall out of his chair and roll around on the floor laughing 19:29 < virtualball_> ummm im trying to compile smacmac's funzilla 19:29 < hyarion> try the real thing instead 19:29 < virtualball_> ok thnx 19:29 < hyarion> or ask smacmac 19:33 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0007P16.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 -!- originalth1 [~thomas@L0007P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:36 < virtualball_> ok, I know, really stupid question but where is the source for the fficial podzilla located? 19:36 < admiralfrijole> c 19:36 < admiralfrijole> v 19:36 < admiralfrijole> s 19:36 < admiralfrijole> ? 19:36 < virtualball_> thnx 19:36 < aegray> lol 19:36 < aegray> regrab your name before i make it lost forever 19:37 -!- virtualball_ is now known as virtualball 19:37 < aegray> there you go 19:37 < aegray> and change your password to something good 19:41 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:42 -!- herb [joe@RESNET-PROFILE1.ACS.ITS.NYU.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 -!- herb [joe@RESNET-PROFILE1.ACS.ITS.NYU.EDU] has quit [Client Quit] 19:42 -!- jawharp [joe@RESNET-PROFILE1.ACS.ITS.NYU.EDU] has joined #ipodlinux 19:46 < onglipo> just posted the .c file for Tone gen 19:47 < onglipo> love to know if it works on 3g-; i've an ipod photo 19:49 < virtualball> yay thanks, i finaly built podzilla 19:49 < aegray> if its just writing to dsp it'll be fine probly 19:49 < onglipo> except for the real-time sine lookup 19:50 < onglipo> dont know how much steam it needs 19:50 < onglipo> ok on photo 19:51 < jawharp> hey guys i got a question that the solutions on the forums couldnt help with 19:52 < aegray> k 19:52 < jawharp> i just updated my kernel with the build from last night. now whenever it boots it says it can't find the system clock with any known method 19:52 < jawharp> i tried fixing the permissions 19:53 < jawharp> to no avail 19:53 < aegray> can't find the system clock?? 19:53 < jawharp> not sure what's causing it 19:53 < jawharp> yea 19:53 < aegray> do you have the line hwclock in your rc? 19:53 < jawharp> then it will launch podzilla after that though 19:53 < aegray> but time is wrong? 19:54 < jawharp> yes i do 19:54 < jawharp> it has an hctsys flag after it 19:54 < jawharp> the time is correct 19:54 -!- onglipo [~ong@203.101.48.144] has quit ["bye!"] 19:54 < aegray> where is it saying this error - like when and for what commands? 19:54 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:54 < jawharp> it will still say that if i set the time and reset 19:55 < aegray> yea but when in the boot process 19:55 < aegray> there's messages 19:55 < aegray> like Command: hwclock --blabjakl 19:55 < jawharp> it's the last thing. i cant see too much of it cause podzilla comes up almost immediately 19:55 < aegray> put in a sleep 20 as the line right before podzilla gets called in your rc 19:56 < jawharp> command: hwclock --hctosys Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. 19:57 < aegray> eep 19:57 < aegray> i'm outa my league 19:57 < jawharp> ah 19:57 < aegray> just don't use the clock 19:57 < aegray> hehe 19:57 < jawharp> oh, for the record, what's meant by sleep 20 19:58 < aegray> sleep 20 - makes your system pause for 20 seconds 19:58 < aegray> do nothing 19:58 < jawharp> i think the problem might be arrising due to my unique situation. my ipod isnt exactly perfectly functioning 19:59 < jawharp> it's a 2nd gen with a non flashed 40 gig hdd 20:01 < jawharp> so disk mode refuses to mount it 20:01 < jawharp> ive been researching ipodeth1394 and im gunna give that a go later tonight 20:01 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 < jawharp> alright 20:01 < jawharp> im off duty 20:01 < aegray> k 20:02 < jawharp> later 20:02 < aegray> sorry 20:02 < jawharp> haha "work" 20:02 < jawharp> oh, dont sweat it 20:02 < jawharp> this ipod's been nothing but troublke 20:02 -!- jawharp [joe@RESNET-PROFILE1.ACS.ITS.NYU.EDU] has quit [] 20:05 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp180368.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:08 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:09 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 20:10 < virtualball> ok, another quesion 20:10 < aegray> maybe... 20:10 < meatmanek> No. 20:11 < virtualball> has anyone here built podzilla on the dektop for the mac 20:11 < aegray> yes 20:11 < virtualball> ok the where in makefile.rules do i put " 20:11 < virtualball> - $(AR) $(ARFLAGS) $(TOP)/lib/$(LIBNAME) $(OBJS) $(CXXOBJS) $(ASMOBJS) 20:11 < virtualball> + -$(AR) $(ARFLAGS) $(TOP)/lib/$(LIBNAME) $(OBJS) $(CXXOBJS) $(ASMOBJS) 20:11 < virtualball> " 20:11 < aegray> stop you bastard! 20:11 < aegray> agahah 20:12 < aegray> no pastes in here 20:12 < aegray> it makes my head hurt 20:12 < virtualball> ok, sorry 20:12 < aegray> hold on 20:12 < virtualball> ok 20:16 < aegray> i dunno 20:16 < virtualball> dang 20:16 < virtualball> any ideas though? 20:16 < aegray> those are the same line pretty much 20:16 < aegray> so i don't think you need it 20:16 < aegray> if anything add - to that line 20:17 < virtualball> nope dosnt work 20:17 < aegray> whats the error? 20:18 < virtualball> theres a lot 20:18 < aegray> #ipodlinux.flood 20:18 < virtualball> huh? 20:18 < A-K> building it for windows was easier then i though 20:18 < aegray> go to that room 20:19 < virtualball> join// #ipodlinux.flood 20:19 < virtualball> join/ #ipodlinux.flood 20:19 < virtualball> gah 20:19 < aegray> /join 20:19 < virtualball> ok 20:19 < aegray> lol 20:20 < virtualball> so why did i go there? 20:20 < aegray> you didn't yet 20:20 < aegray> you haven't joined it says 20:20 < virtualball> sry i typed in ## 20:21 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:22 < josh_> grr 20:22 < aegray> eat shit iplbot! 20:22 < meatmanek> I <3 my UPSes. 20:22 < josh_> aegray: did YOU do that? 20:22 < aegray> who me?? 20:23 < josh_> (13:22:45) NickServ: (notice) iplbot created 4 days (21h 38m 19s) ago 20:23 < josh_> ok 20:23 -!- aegray is now known as iplbot 20:23 < iplbot> hehe 20:23 < josh_> /msg nickserv drop ... 20:23 < iplbot> me? 20:23 < josh_> well, since nickserv hasn't kicked you off, I assume it's you. 20:24 -!- iplbot is now known as aegray 20:24 < aegray> yay 20:24 -!- josh_ is now known as iplbot 20:24 -!- iplbot [~josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:24 < aegray> damn straight! 20:25 < meatmanek> hehe. 20:25 -!- josh_ [~josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 < aegray> muhuhahaha 20:25 < josh_> iplbot is apparently protected hostmask-wise. yours works, mine doesn't. logical conclusion. 20:26 < meatmanek> well, that's one theory. 20:26 < aegray> yay iplbot! 20:27 < aegray> omg virtualball is going to get kicked for flood in the flood room 20:27 < aegray> he just pasted like 300 lines of errors 20:27 -!- BleuLlama [~sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:28 < meatmanek> lol 20:28 < josh_> join #ipodlinux.bigflood 20:28 < aegray> did you remove the flood limit? 20:28 < josh_> join #ipodlinux.reallybigflood 20:28 < josh_> no 20:28 < aegray> haha 20:28 < josh_> don't know how I could 20:28 < aegray> nor do i 20:28 < aegray> but he pasted the error dump 2 x so it just keeps going 20:28 < aegray> and it won't stop 20:29 < aegray> all because he forgot to include X libraries... 20:29 < meatmanek> Yay for pasting only the topmost build error! 20:29 < aegray> seriously 20:30 -!- BleuLlama [~sdl@patsy.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:31 < aegray> hey there 20:32 -!- virtualball [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:32 < A-K> you know what i hate? Trignometric function 20:32 -!- aegray is now known as virtualball 20:33 -!- Raim [Raim@dial10245.odn.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < josh_> ~BleuLlama 20:33 < josh_> `BleuLlama 20:33 < josh_> ~leave 20:33 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:33 -!- corpix is now known as aegray 20:33 < josh_> may I ask what is going on? 20:33 -!- aegray [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:33 -!- virtualball is now known as aegray 20:33 -!- virtualball [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < aegray> stop pasting 20:34 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 < josh_> there's a reason for chanserv, you know 20:34 < aegray> huh? 20:34 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 < josh_> you could just tell chanserv to op you 20:34 < josh_> ~aegray 20:34 < corpix_> erm 20:34 < iplbot> aegray is amazing. I love him. You should too. Please love him? 20:34 < aegray> i'm not an op 20:34 < corpix_> hehe 20:34 < josh_> ah 20:34 < josh_> didn't realize that 20:34 < aegray> i just know his password 20:34 < josh_> ~leave before you get kicked 20:34 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:35 < aegray> just make him iplbotV or something 20:35 < josh_> who registered iplbot? 20:35 < aegray> me 20:35 < aegray> haha 20:35 < josh_> could you please tell nickserv to drop it? 20:35 < aegray> not yet 20:35 < josh_> why not? do you need to take a vote? 20:35 -!- warter [~warter@p549ABBF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com"] 20:36 < aegray> just use it for now 20:36 < josh_> okay 20:36 < aegray> i won't autoghost it 20:36 < A-K> who is iplbot? 20:36 < aegray> don't you mean /whois iplbot? 20:36 -!- mac_man [~mac_man@207.218.45.199] has joined #ipodlinux 20:36 < A-K> uhhh w/e floats your boat 20:36 < josh_> bot that keeps track of stuff so devs can say e.g. ~unsupported instead of telling you all about what "unsupported" means 20:37 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < A-K> or w/e double floats. hiyo! 20:37 < josh_> like this 20:37 < josh_> ~unsupported 20:37 < iplbot> unsupported means not supported. Unsupported topics are not to be discussed in here. The devs have declared those things unsupported so that they don't have to waste time to support them. By asking about them, you are wasting the developers' time. Take it to the forums or email the person/people who generated the item you're discussing. Piss off. 20:37 < josh_> (intended for annoying n00bs) 20:37 < A-K> ~unsupported 20:37 < A-K> ? 20:37 < aegray> ~annoy noob 20:37 < BleuLlama> only people on a certain list can make it talk 20:38 < josh_> ~voices 20:38 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj > 20:38 < aegray> ~voices 20:38 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray BleuLlama courtc davidc__ leachbj > 20:38 < aegray> ~annoy noob 20:38 < josh_> ~wordy 20:38 < BleuLlama> ~pickles 20:38 < iplbot> Sorry, BleuLlama, I don't know anything about pickles. 20:38 < BleuLlama> ~clockzilla 20:38 < iplbot> Sorry, BleuLlama, I don't know anything about clockzilla. 20:38 < aegray> ~annoy noob is silly noob. stfu 20:38 < iplbot> OK, aegray. 20:38 < BleuLlama> :( 20:38 < aegray> ~annoy noob! 20:38 < iplbot> silly noob. stfu 20:38 < davidc__> test the bot in a different channel. 20:38 < josh_> ~succinct 20:38 * aegray shutup 20:39 < corpix_> ~weather 20:39 < A-K> which dev are you josh_? 20:39 < josh_> I'm not a dev, I just made the bot. 20:40 < BleuLlama> "Downloads" on the wiki is fuxx0red 20:40 < aegray> how so? 20:40 < mac_man> hey guys, just came to make you aware that /nightlys doesn't work and it only works if you goto /builds 20:41 < aegray> oh i got it 20:42 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:42 < A-K> i have a question 20:42 < aegray> fixed 20:42 < A-K> why can't libitunesdb be compiled for podzilla in windows? 20:42 < BleuLlama> ugh... this 'generator.c' code does a lot of coding no-nos 20:43 < aegray> llike? 20:43 < BleuLlama> two things wrong with this: 20:43 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 20:43 < BleuLlama> #define BLAH_FOO_ZOOB 3 // this is a value, which is 3 20:43 < A-K> hashahaha i was asked to leave 20:43 < aegray> nice names 20:43 < BleuLlama> my names. 20:43 < aegray> oh ok 20:43 < BleuLlama> but there are still two things wrong with that. 20:44 < aegray> whats wrong? 20:44 < josh_> the obvious comment, for one 20:44 * aegray clueless 20:44 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:44 < BleuLlama> it's c, you shouldn't be using // for comments 20:44 * aegray uses mostly // whoops 20:44 < BleuLlama> also, it's a #define, everything on the line gets pasted in. 20:44 < josh_> we can safely assume gcc extensions, I think 20:44 < josh_> ah 20:44 < josh_> C++ comments would cause trouble there... 20:44 < originalthp> BleuLlama: huh? why not use // in c? 20:44 < josh_> no 20:44 < josh_> wat 20:44 < josh_> not true 20:44 < aegray> BleuLlama: are you sure? I do // sometimes and it works fine 20:44 < josh_> look at `man cpp' 20:45 < aegray> ie // after define 20:45 < BleuLlama> so, the following: printf( "%d\n", BLAH ); would expand to: printf ("%d\n", 3 // this will wipe the close paren ); 20:45 < BleuLlama> or somesuch 20:45 < josh_> or info 20:45 < josh_> not true 20:45 < originalthp> haha 20:45 < BleuLlama> it shouldn't. 20:45 < josh_> comments are translated to whitespace as first pass 20:45 < aegray> yea i don't think so 20:45 < aegray> thats what i thought 20:45 < originalthp> nobody would be so stupid and use a one-line commend (//) this way.. 20:45 < originalthp> comment even 20:45 < A-K> but the computer is stupid 20:45 < aegray> so stupid...hmm 20:46 < aegray> BleuLlama: yea that definitely->whitespace 20:46 < aegray> video player would fail if it didn't 20:46 * aegray poor coder 20:46 < josh_> BleuLlama: // comments are fine, join #ipodlinux.flood and I'll show you. 20:46 < BleuLlama> as someone who works with different compilers on different systems, you avoid things like that for future portability 20:46 < aegray> ok 20:46 < aegray> that's a good reason 20:46 < josh_> okay 20:47 < josh_> good reason 20:47 < BleuLlama> not to mention that some compilers will complain about using C++ comments in C... technically, that's not valid in ANSI C, afaik 20:47 < originalthp> i thought // is in c.. 20:47 * aegray needs to convert a whole shitload of code 20:48 < originalthp> well.. there is lots of one-line comments in linux source 20:48 < BleuLlama> started with c++ many C compilers accept it now. 20:48 * mac_man is wondering who to contact for website issues 20:48 -!- iplbot is now known as iplbot-II 20:48 < aegray> what about them mac_man 20:48 < aegray> ? 20:48 < BleuLlama> thp: that doesn't make it correct. that just makes it prevalent. heh 20:49 < originalthp> oh.. you're right 20:49 < originalthp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_language 20:49 < mac_man> well /nightlys loads the /builds pages, but if you try to download a file from /nightlys, it 404's 20:49 < josh_> BleuLlama: the point is that Linux is very portable (look in the arch/ directory) and it uses // comments. 20:49 < josh_> whether that's good reasoning or not, I won't argue. 20:49 < originalthp> "C99" has one-line comments.. ANSI C hasn't.. 20:49 < aegray> mac_man: nightly's arent there anymore 20:50 < mac_man> but the page is there, and it doesn't work, I did download the files from /builds 20:50 < aegray> its all supposed to be in /builds 20:50 < aegray> any link to /nightlys is worng 20:50 < aegray> and should be updated 20:51 < josh_> ~nightlys are at http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds, NOT /nightlys. Any link to /nightlys is wrong and should be updated. 20:52 < mac_man> yes, but the nightly page is an index of builds and says nothing about grabbing the files from /builds 20:52 < aegray> the nightly's is an index of some other directory 20:52 < aegray> i think 20:52 < josh_> /nightlys is a symlink now 20:52 < josh_> to /builds 20:52 < davidc__> they're both aliased to the same place 20:52 < aegray> then why wouldn't it work 20:52 < aegray> ? 20:53 < davidc__> the previous nightlies server is now mirrored to the main ipl server 20:53 < mac_man> the links in nightly's are relitive, not absolute 20:53 < josh_> no, they're absolute it looks like 20:53 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@84.4.0.255] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:53 < josh_> it's a directory of /builds and they point to /nightlys/foo 20:53 < josh_> er 20:54 < josh_> no, the browser still thinks it's /nightlys because no 302 was sent 20:54 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 20:54 < josh_> so they are relative 20:56 -!- iplbot-II [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 20:59 -!- virtualball [~blah@AC914799.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:02 -!- flyingfart [flyingfart@c529cd42a.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 21:02 < flyingfart> someone here? 21:03 < aegray> i don't give a flyingfart 21:03 * aegray lame 21:03 < josh_> 58 people, by the looks of it. 21:03 < flyingfart> usely on irc noone talks 21:03 < flyingfart> =] 21:03 < josh_> correct 21:03 < flyingfart> hey 21:03 < josh_> but you asked if anyone was here 21:03 < flyingfart> crap 21:03 < josh_> not if anyone was talking 21:03 < josh_> :P 21:03 < flyingfart> i am gonna ask something 21:03 < josh_> okay, go ahead, ask your question 21:03 < flyingfart> your not a bot right? 21:04 < josh_> me? no, of course not. 21:04 < flyingfart> hmmzz 21:04 < josh_> one will be coming shortly, though 21:04 < flyingfart> whos your builder =] 21:04 < josh_> depends what religion you believe in 21:04 < flyingfart> i gonna buy a mp3 player 21:04 < flyingfart> but i dont know wich 21:04 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:04 < josh_> ~ipod 21:04 < flyingfart> shall i go for i pod mini or rio carbone 21:05 < meatmanek> wtf. 21:05 < flyingfart> rio bone is best tested and hase longer battery 21:05 < josh_> ~ipod 21:05 < iplbot> ipod is a really cool mp3 player. You should get one. And if you already have one, buy more! 21:05 < A-K> did any1 see the ibook G4's? 21:05 < flyingfart> itunes 21:05 < meatmanek> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03 21:06 < flyingfart> can itunes be used by other brands mp3 players? 21:06 < aegray> meatmanek: maybe you should actually format your sda3 21:06 < josh_> no 21:06 < originalthp> used by or used with? 21:06 < flyingfart> uh 21:06 < meatmanek> aegray, you mean sda2 21:06 < josh_> no, you mean sda4 21:06 < josh_> it's zero-based 21:06 < aegray> meatmanek: no sda3 21:07 < meatmanek> Wtf 21:07 < flyingfart> can itunes upload podcastign and mp3z on a a on ipod player? 21:07 < josh_> 03: is actually hda, :03 is 4 21:07 < meatmanek> why is it trying to mount sda3 21:07 < meatmanek> or sda4 21:07 < josh_> hda4 21:07 * BleuLlama just got a free Apple 17" studio display (trinitron) but it doesn't work yet 21:07 < flyingfart> non ipod player 21:07 < aegray> meatmanek: sda2 = vfat partition 21:07 < aegray> BleuLlama: what?? 21:07 < meatmanek> aegray, correct 21:08 < BleuLlama> plugged it in. the degausser kicked in (bwwaaaaa) then a loud SNAP 21:08 < aegray> oh nm -your doing your stupid hfsplus hsit 21:08 < josh_> ugh 21:08 < flyingfart> guys how long does it take to put 3 songs on a ipod mini with usb? 21:08 < aegray> BleuLlama: it broke? 21:08 < BleuLlama> probably just need to open it up and blow out the dust 21:08 < meatmanek> gah. 21:08 < josh_> very very quick? 21:08 < aegray> flyingfart: 7 years 21:08 < flyingfart> serieusly 21:08 < BleuLlama> yeah. it's shorting out... no biggie 21:08 < meatmanek> aegray, I switched to vfat. 21:08 < BleuLlama> i've repaired monitors 21:08 < josh_> "no biggie"?! 21:08 < aegray> meatmanek: rootfs is on /dev/sda3 21:08 < aegray> (/dev/hda3 to ipod) 21:08 < josh_> you must be insane(ly talented) 21:08 < BleuLlama> this is how i got that 17" IBM flatpanel monitor. just had to install a new backlight 21:09 -!- flyingfart [flyingfart@c529cd42a.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 21:09 < BleuLlama> :D 21:09 < BleuLlama> i've worked with monitors and stereos that stopped working due to dust buildup 21:09 < BleuLlama> blow out the dust, it works great again. there might be some permanent damage, but it's doubtful 21:10 < BleuLlama> once you know which parts to fear, and how to discharge the CRT, monitor work is actually not that bad 21:10 < BleuLlama> :} 21:10 < meatmanek> Gah. 21:10 < BleuLlama> (you learn these skills when maintaining arcade games) 21:10 * aegray lunch 21:10 < meatmanek> so I've got to reformat the hard drive again. 21:11 < josh_> what generation iPod? 21:11 * meatmanek flips the bird to whoever decided that we weren't going to have iPod linux read from hd2 21:11 < A-K> haha you know whats funny? 21:11 * aegray flips the bird to meatmanek for not reading the WIKI right 21:11 < BleuLlama> hd2? wtf is hd2? 21:12 < aegray> the second hard drive 21:12 < BleuLlama> second hard drive? 21:12 < aegray> there's 5 in total 21:12 < BleuLlama> oh, partition 21:12 < mac_man> lol 21:12 < A-K> on futureshop.ca, they are selling a 20GB u2 ipod without the color screen for 10$ more then the one with color screen 21:12 < BleuLlama> gotcha 21:12 < mac_man> he meant hda2 :) 21:12 < meatmanek> hda2. 21:12 * meatmanek flips BleuLlama the bird. 21:12 < josh_> meatmanek: what generation iPod? 21:12 < meatmanek> photo. 21:12 * aegray flips meatmanek the bird for confusing BleuLlama 21:13 < josh_> needless to say... 21:13 < josh_> ~4g 21:13 < iplbot> 4g is UNSUPPORTED 21:13 < mac_man> ~unsupported 21:13 < josh_> ~unsupported 21:13 < iplbot> unsupported means not supported. Unsupported topics are not to be discussed in here. The devs have declared those things unsupported so that they don't have to waste time to support them. By asking about them, you are wasting the developers' time. Take it to the forums or email the person/people who generated the item you're discussing. Piss off. 21:13 < aegray> mac_man - pm it 21:13 < mac_man> kk 21:13 < meatmanek> josh_, it's the same damn instructions. 21:14 < aegray> it only listens to certain people 21:14 < aegray> ie not you guys 21:14 < mac_man> :( 21:14 < josh_> meatmanek: I know, but 4g isn't supported yet. There may be odd bugs (like yours) that, even though it's the "same damn instructions", cause problems on >=4g. That includes photo. 21:16 < meatmanek> The odd bug that you're talking about is caused by me not reading the instructions. 21:16 < aegray> haha 21:17 < josh_> ~odd bugs is double-check the instructions. 21:18 < mac_man> Well I'm off, cya lata 21:18 -!- mac_man [~mac_man@207.218.45.199] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:18 < meatmanek> on step number 3 (3. Create a new primary partition with a length of 1 cylinder.) 21:19 < meatmanek> if I make it longer than they say, will it break anything 21:19 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 21:19 < josh_> it should be about 8 MB 21:19 < josh_> on 20GB 4g ipods, that's 2 cylinders 21:19 < josh_> on older 'pods, it was 1 21:19 < josh_> on a 40GB it might be 1 21:19 < aegray> it can be any size larger too if you want 21:19 < BleuLlama> On toyota tercels, it's 4 cylinders 21:19 < josh_> on volkswagens it's 3 21:19 < josh_> :P 21:20 < BleuLlama> no... on Geo Metro XFI's, it's 3 21:20 < BleuLlama> VWs are 4 also 21:20 < meatmanek> on mercedes diesels, it's 5. 21:20 < BleuLlama> had a friend with a 3 cylinder engine on their car. 21:20 < BleuLlama> it had 3 cylinders and a counterweight 21:20 < BleuLlama> damndest thing i ever saw 21:20 < BleuLlama> my friend rob has a car with 0 cylinders. 21:21 < meatmanek> electric cars++ 21:21 < BleuLlama> nope. it's gas 21:21 < meatmanek> jet cars++ 21:21 < BleuLlama> from the late 80s, i believe... 21:21 < DiffZ> lol 21:21 < meatmanek> turbine cars++ 21:21 < BleuLlama> nope. 21:21 < meatmanek> wtf. 21:22 < meatmanek> they're not cylinders, they're rectangular prisms? 21:22 < BleuLlama> huh? 21:22 < DiffZ> =] 21:23 < meatmanek> geometry. 21:23 < BleuLlama> it drives really smoothly... 21:23 < meatmanek> bad joke. 21:23 < BleuLlama> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wankel_engine 21:24 < meatmanek> aha, rotary. 21:24 < meatmanek> I don't know shit about car and engine mechanics. 21:24 < A-K> why are we talking about cars? 21:24 < josh_> ~cars are fun. 21:27 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["I was asked to leave."] 21:31 -!- disident [~sylvain@lns-vlq-9-lil-82-65-147-239.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 21:33 -!- ScoTTie [scott@220-253-11-129.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 21:34 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp180368.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:40 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp180368.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 21:41 < A-K> does anyone know a site where all they do is host plugins? 21:41 < A-K> (checked google, bleullama) 21:43 < BleuLlama> plugins? for what? 21:43 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:43 < leachbj> i don't think plugzilla has been released yet... 21:44 < A-K> i need a plugin for QT 21:44 < A-K> but i can't find it 21:44 < leachbj> do you think that is suprising, this being #ipodlinux and all? 21:44 < BleuLlama> could you be any more vague? 21:45 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 < josh_> A-K: apple.com 21:45 < A-K> its not there 21:45 < A-K> i need to be able to play DivX videos 21:45 -!- disident [~sylvain@lns-vlq-9-lil-82-65-147-239.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["bye"] 21:46 < josh_> DivX != QT 21:46 < meatmanek> try mplayer? 21:46 < josh_> DivX is an AVI format 21:46 < josh_> s/format/codec 21:46 < josh_> but QT is at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html 21:46 < A-K> crap i can't remember what != means 21:46 < A-K> but it has something to do with for loops 21:46 < courtc> hahahahahaha 21:46 < josh_> does not equal, is not, is not the same as 21:47 < meatmanek> hahahah 21:47 < BleuLlama> just grab mplayer of VLC 21:47 < A-K> yeah i have it 21:47 < zsr> BleuLlama, thats leet 21:47 < leachbj> for example, #ipodlinux != google 21:48 < A-K> hey they were talking bout cars earlier 21:48 < meatmanek> lol 21:48 < A-K> so i though this would be fine 21:48 < courtc> so, how bout them ipods. 21:49 < A-K> what the hell is an ipod 21:49 < courtc> mine is still puke green. 21:49 < josh_> you have a mini? 21:49 < A-K> haha 21:49 < courtc> I do 21:49 < courtc> I also have a pseudo-working 1g 21:49 < A-K> i think the new blue is mesmerizing 21:49 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:49 * aegray has the new blue 21:49 < josh_> ~ipod 21:49 < iplbot> ipod is a really cool mp3 player. You should get one. And if you already have one, buy more! 21:50 < courtc> I think all the new colors look like crap.. 21:50 < A-K> there better then the old 21:50 < josh_> (note: that says nothing about the mini) 21:50 < originalthp> new colors? 21:50 < originalthp> of what? 21:50 < A-K> minis 21:50 < courtc> I disagree 21:50 < originalthp> there are new colors again? 21:50 < josh_> blue, pink, green, silver 21:51 < meatmanek> wtf. 21:51 < A-K> the old ones look like the cover was put in the washing machine by some guys mom 21:51 < josh_> ~ipod mini info is at http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ 21:51 < A-K> because there so faded 21:51 < courtc> same colors as before but blinding 21:51 < originalthp> oh 21:51 < originalthp> have got a silver one, looks the same as 1g mini i think 21:51 < josh_> I like the new blue and silver better, old green and pink better 21:51 < A-K> the gold would be blinding if they had made a new one with a more intence color 21:51 < josh_> (not that I would ever want a pink mini) 21:51 < A-K> the silver is the same 21:52 < meatmanek> I try to go into my music under iPL and it just blinks at me 21:52 < A-K> what do you mean by blinks 21:52 -!- DiffZ [~bla@cc107117-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:52 < meatmanek> I hit the action button 21:52 < josh_> I think he means those lovely blinking arrows 21:52 < josh_> ~blinking arrows are a feature, not a bug. 21:52 < A-K> oh yeah 21:52 < A-K> thank you courtc 21:53 < meatmanek> the screen blanks itself the redraws the "Music" menu. 21:53 < josh_> that means it couldn't find your iTunesDB 21:53 < meatmanek> then* 21:53 < meatmanek> k 21:53 < josh_> is yours a MacPod or WinPod? and what OS? 21:53 < courtc> umm.. no problem ... ? 21:53 < meatmanek> winpod, linux and osx 21:53 < A-K> i don't think you can do that 21:53 < josh_> okay, mount the linux partition on linux and add a line to /etc/rc 21:53 < josh_> yes, you can, I do it. 21:53 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@222.84-48-115.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 21:54 < meatmanek> heh. 21:54 < josh_> the line is: ln -s /mnt/iPod_Control /iPod_Control 21:54 < meatmanek> k 21:54 < josh_> just before the line that says podzilla 21:54 < meatmanek> righto. 21:55 -!- A-K [~mizdawg@MTL-HSE-ppp180368.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:56 < josh_> is it known why the new firmware causes 4gs to stop working with iPL? 21:56 < meatmanek> o_O 21:56 < meatmanek> there _is_ no /mnt/iPod_Control... 21:56 * meatmanek goes investigating. 21:56 < meatmanek> that'd be why. 21:57 * meatmanek reboots to diskmode. 21:57 < josh_> make sure the `mount' line is correct 21:57 < josh_> in /etc/rc 21:57 < josh_> it should say: mount -t vfat -o ro /dev/hda2 /mnt 21:57 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-234-44.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 21:58 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180147168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 21:59 < meatmanek> yeah, I got it 22:00 < aegray> and what happens when you go to it through the filebrowser? 22:01 < meatmanek> it's fixed, don't worry about it. 22:01 < meatmanek> i forgot to add the lines to mount /mnt 22:01 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ppp-71-129-250-175.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:01 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:02 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has joined #ipodlinux 22:15 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:15 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ppp-71-129-250-175.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 22:15 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ppp-71-129-250-175.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:20 -!- Raim [Raim@dial10245.odn.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:20 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:20 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:26 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-224-15.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:33 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-73-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:37 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:39 -!- garrett [~garrett@130.57.22.69] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:40 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 22:44 -!- aegray is now known as room 22:44 -!- room is now known as aegray 22:44 < josh_> huh? 22:44 < aegray> haha 22:44 < aegray> different room 22:44 < josh_> okay 22:44 < josh_> #web or #aegray? 22:45 < aegray> web 22:45 < aegray> someone said " hi room" 22:45 < josh_> ah 22:45 < aegray> and I couldnt help myself 22:45 < josh_> I'm updating iplbot 22:45 < aegray> whats he gonna do now? 22:45 < josh_> everything javabot does 22:45 < josh_> (hopefully) 22:46 < aegray> javabot does stuff? 22:46 < josh_> yep, you can /msg him and play around with it if you want. 22:46 < josh_> he's currently on ##java 22:51 < courtc> hmm.. I shouldn't be able to change my own karma.. 22:51 < aegray> ~courtc++ 22:51 < iplbot> courtc is a dev. You are not. Fuck off. 22:51 < aegray> hmm 22:51 < aegray> `courtc++ 22:51 < iplbot> courtc is a dev. You are not. Fuck off. 22:51 < aegray> he don't like me too much 22:51 < courtc> ~ bad courtc 22:51 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDF04E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:52 < courtc> ~bad courtc 22:52 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDFC6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:52 < aegray> ~bad courtc 22:52 < aegray> ~--aegray 22:52 < courtc> ~good aegray 22:53 < courtc> hmm.. works in pm 22:53 < aegray> i know 22:53 < aegray> weird 22:53 < josh_> it doesn't respond 22:53 < josh_> in the channel 22:53 < josh_> but it still works 22:53 < aegray> ~karma courtc 22:53 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 2. 22:53 < aegray> yay! 22:53 < josh_> ~excellent courtc 22:53 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:53 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 12. 22:54 < courtc> whoa, thats not in the doc.. 22:54 < josh_> correct! 22:54 * courtc reads the code 22:54 < josh_> except it's only supposed to be +3 22:54 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:54 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 30. 22:54 < josh_> ~terrible courtc 22:54 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:54 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 29. 22:54 < aegray> haha 22:54 < josh_> ~ignore courtc 22:55 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:55 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 36. 22:55 < josh_> ~terrible courtc 22:55 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:55 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 35. 22:55 < josh_> ~excellent courtc 22:55 < josh_> ~karma courtc 22:55 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 40. 22:55 < josh_> ~listen courtc 22:55 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Fc78e.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:55 < josh_> something's up here... 22:55 < meatmanek> Does anyone else think josh_ is done testing his bot in the channel? 22:55 < courtc> ~kick meatmanek 22:55 < josh_> they started it 22:56 < aegray> ~karma courtc 22:56 < iplbot> courtc's karma is 65. 22:56 < aegray> haha 22:56 < josh_> ~meatmanek 22:56 < iplbot> meatmanek doesn't like me. 22:56 < josh_> who keeps hiking courtc's karma? 22:57 < meatmanek> lol 22:57 < josh_> voices 22:57 < josh_> `voices 22:57 < josh_> ~voices 22:57 < josh_> who ignored me? 22:57 < meatmanek> lol. 22:57 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray BleuLlama davidc__ leachbj courtc > 22:57 < iplbot> Listening to: < josh_ aegray BleuLlama davidc__ leachbj courtc > 22:57 < josh_> oh, it was just being slow 22:58 -!- iplbot [~iplbot@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:58 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-224-15.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 22:58 < josh_> it's relatively easy to crash if you flood it 22:58 < meatmanek> hehehehehee. 22:59 < aegray> does it save karma somewhere or is it all reset now? 22:59 < josh_> it saves it on orderly quit, but that wasn't orderly. 22:59 < aegray> lol 23:02 -!- linux_insidev2 [~likei@203-206-250-150.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:03 < linux_insidev2> hey guys 23:03 -!- Toxikated [~noway@d207-216-211-182.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:03 < josh_> hi linux_insidev2 23:03 < Toxikated> hello all 23:03 < linux_insidev2> how are we this moring/afternoon/night depending on your timezone 23:04 < aegray> its mafternight 23:04 < aegray> at least where i am 23:04 < linux_insidev2> lol 23:04 < BleuLlama> it's evening here you insensitive clod 23:04 < aegray> ok sorry 23:04 * courtc agrees with bleu 23:04 < linux_insidev2> lol 23:05 < josh_> (16:04:11) BleuLlama: it's evening here you insensitive clod 23:06 < BleuLlama> ...and? 23:06 < Toxikated> afternoon >_> 23:07 < meatmanek> Does gtk-pod take this long every time I start it? 23:07 < meatmanek> er 23:07 < meatmanek> gtkpod 23:08 < BleuLlama> does dinner take this long to eat every time i sit down to eat it? 23:08 < meatmanek> no, you can eat faster 23:12 < linux_insidev2> why does everyone ask about gtkpod here 23:13 < linux_insidev2> aegray: i made a start script for the windows users so they can use the poweroff and stop asking how to make it woek 23:13 < linux_insidev2> work* 23:13 < aegray> on your beta page 23:13 < linux_insidev2> yeah 23:13 < meatmanek> because I'm already here, I know some of you use linux for your ipod, and I can't think of any better place to ask 23:15 < BleuLlama> you all drive right? I 23:15 < BleuLlama> i've got a problem with the catalytic converter on my car that maybe one of you could help me with 23:15 < BleuLlama> see? doesn't make much sense to ask here. 23:16 < linux_insidev2> ^_^ 23:16 < meatmanek> where else would you ask? 23:16 < josh_> #gtkpod? 23:19 < Toxikated> is there a way to find out how wide some text drawn with GrText() will be? (to account for different fonts) 23:20 < BleuLlama> there's a call that gives you the width and height and baseline of a text string 23:20 < BleuLlama> message.c uses it 23:20 < BleuLlama> GrGetGCTextSize 23:20 < Toxikated> awesome, i shall check that out. thanks 23:25 -!- Decipher [~iamwherei@static-203-87-35-107.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #iPodLinux 23:29 -!- ScoTTie [scott@220-253-63-121.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:33 < linux_insidev2> i wonder if i can pick up a 1/2/3 gen ipod anywhere 23:33 < BleuLlama> that's a very passive-aggressive way to ask 23:33 < BleuLlama> ebay.com 23:33 < linux_insidev2> yeah but im in aus 23:33 < linux_insidev2> and theres noone willing to send any here 23:34 < BleuLlama> bummer. 23:34 < linux_insidev2> we have ebay.com.au and it shows the american and other ones that will ship worldwide 23:34 < linux_insidev2> but noone is 23:35 < linux_insidev2> i did see one guy 23:35 < linux_insidev2> but he wanted $300 for his 3rd gen 23:37 < meatmanek> why a 1/2/3 gen? 23:38 -!- courtc_ [~courtc@adsl-158-44-25.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:39 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-158-42-50.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:39 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 23:39 < meatmanek> heh. I think it'd be cool if the shuffles did run linux 23:39 < meatmanek> of course you'd have to use sound instead of the screen 23:39 < meatmanek> which would be sort of tricky 23:40 < meatmanek> s/sort of tricky/damn near impossible/ 23:40 < meatmanek> bbl, tv. 23:40 < linux_insidev2> perfect for stevie wonder 23:42 -!- Toxikated [~noway@d207-216-211-182.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 23:45 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:50 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:53 -!- virtualball [~blah@ACD09F70.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 -!- virtualball is now known as virtualball_ 23:56 < virtualball_> hello 23:57 < BleuLlama> i disagree 23:57 < BleuLlama> yes 23:58 < BleuLlama> no pm, please. thanks 23:58 < virtualball_> ok, is anyone else here? 23:58 < BleuLlama> :( 23:58 < linux_insidev2> noone here but us errr.... bots 23:58 < josh_> yes, I'm here 23:58 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:58 < BleuLlama> PLEASE INSERT GIRDER 23:58 < virtualball_> hi aegray --- Log closed Wed Jul 27 00:00:00 2005