--- Log opened Sat Jul 23 00:00:03 2005 00:00 < courtc> Hello, welcome to another log. 00:00 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 00:00 < aegray> we'll be your hosts 00:00 < courtc> Today, we'll be talking about flashing arrows and where they came from. 00:00 < boza111> oh , you mean the transion it takes from one menu to another ? 00:00 < boza111> transition * 00:00 < aegray> It all starts when a mommy arrow and a daddy arrow get together 00:01 < boza111> lol , i lost you 00:01 < courtc> boza111, boot up ipl. 00:01 < courtc> look at the screen. 00:01 < boza111> ok 00:02 < courtc> notice the arrow 00:02 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:02 < boza111> booting up now 00:02 < courtc> notice how it flashes 00:02 < boza111> oh yea , the flashing ones 00:02 < boza111> yes 00:02 < courtc> ............. 00:02 < boza111> oh !!!!! i get it 00:02 < boza111> lol ,, so you are programming more of those 00:03 < boza111> damm , it took me a while to get that one ! 00:03 * courtc gives up the front 00:03 < courtc> its just not funny when no-one gets it. 00:04 < boza111> yea :p 00:04 < boza111> hey have you guys seen KDE's concept for a GUI 00:05 < courtc> hey, have you barfed on kde lately? 00:05 < boza111> barfed ? what does that mean (i am not American ) 00:06 < courtc> yacked thrown-up 00:06 < courtc> puked 00:06 < boza111> oh ok 00:06 < courtc> spewwed the contents of your stomach 00:06 < boza111> lol haha 00:09 < BleuLlama> technicolor yawn 00:09 < BleuLlama> praying to the porcelain god 00:09 < Troy^> what is good to use to edit a movie like to cut out sections of a video clip 00:09 < courtc> rm 00:09 < BleuLlama> quicktime pro does a nice jobe 00:09 < courtc> dd 00:10 < BleuLlama> imovie works well too 00:10 < boza111> oh damm , by the way , i didnt mean KDE;s GUI i meant wendt's GUI concept 00:10 < courtc> ? 00:10 < courtc> ok.. 00:11 < courtc> yes I have seen it. 00:11 < boza111> i think that gui looks reaaaly nice 00:11 < courtc> good for you 00:12 < boza111> lol ! i am just saying that it looks nice 00:12 < BleuLlama> is that in the forums? i don't read the forums anymore 00:12 < boza111> yea it shoould be in the forums somewhere 00:13 < Troy^> quicktime pro never heard of that 00:13 < courtc> it's too cluttered, it'd be too complicated to use and isn't very intuitive 00:13 < BleuLlama> are there screenshots of this or somesuch? url? 00:13 < Troy^> is imovie free 00:13 < BleuLlama> quicktime pro is $30, imovie comes with all recent macs 00:14 < Troy^> damnit 00:14 < Troy^> lol 00:14 < BleuLlama> might be able to do it with regular (free) quicktime 00:14 < Troy^> want it to be free 00:14 < BleuLlama> i want a 1979 Porsche 911 Turbo to be free, but that's not going to happen 00:14 < Troy^> of course not 00:15 < BleuLlama> or better yet, a 1960 DeSoto Adventurer 00:15 < Troy^> unless u steal it lmao 00:16 < Troy^> lol i just wanna take out the credits and the beggining of the movie so i can fit it on a cd 00:16 < BleuLlama> http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/deso6002.htm yeah... that's the stuff 00:16 < boza111> do you use a mac ? 00:18 < boza111> i have never used a mac , But i am pretty sure the program you are looking for is in ILife 00:19 < BleuLlama> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2676 00:19 < BleuLlama> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. 00:19 < BleuLlama> oh man.. those guys crack me up 00:20 * BleuLlama goes back to coding 00:20 -!- Lord_Nightmare is now known as LordN_Away 00:21 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:21 < Izz^> That thread is mostly nonsense. 00:21 < boza111> actually , i dont think its that funny what he suggested . If the ipods headjack could work on a higher frequency it would be able to plug into a tv 00:21 -!- LordN_Away is now known as LordNAway 00:21 < BleuLlama> most;y? 00:21 < Troy^> i got this video editing program but i dont know how to take out sections of the video 00:21 < Izz^> work on a higher frequency? What? 00:21 < BleuLlama> heh 00:21 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDC76E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:21 < BleuLlama> there's a fundamental issue there 00:21 < Troy^> damnit lol confusing video editing program god damnity 00:21 < BleuLlama> nevermind. 00:21 < Izz^> boza111, I think you should add that to the thread. 00:21 < Izz^> It would fit in nicely :) 00:22 < boza111> you know the Head Phone jack 00:22 < boza111> for listening to music it operates on a lower frequency 00:22 < boza111> if you want video . it needs a higher frequency 00:22 < courtc> boza111, just stop. 00:22 < courtc> give up 00:23 < boza111> so , it could work , (IF it supported that frquency - such as the ipodphoto ) 00:23 < BleuLlama> boza: you're only making yourself look bad. stop now. 00:23 < boza111> so it doesnt have to do alot with the processing power 00:23 < boza111> man ,, what i am saying is true 00:24 < BleuLlama> oh man.. .stop... you're killing me... 00:25 < Izz^> boza111, you're right. If only there was a way to bifurcate the resistance of the headphone jack's improbability drive. Then you could just vary the frequency in a sine wave, triangulate the composite signal to a digital/analogue/digital one and restore the AVI streaming through the flux capacitor on the battery's countdown timer. 00:26 < courtc> all you have to do is calculate how improbable it is 00:26 < Izz^> Yes, it's not impossible. Just highly improbable. 00:27 < BleuLlama> hahaha. you idiot. it's not a flux capacitor. it's an electrolytic 00:27 < boza111> , i didnt get a single thing lol 00:28 < boza111> but , what i was saying was right *Btw . i wasnt saying that it was possible to do it software wise . I meant that you would have to change the hardware so the jack would support higher frquencies 00:29 -!- TheDingo is now known as monkey_defecatio 00:29 -!- monkey_defecatio is now known as monkeydefecation 00:29 < boza111> damm , why doesn't anybody believe me . All this is , is a bit of physics 00:29 < Izz^> I still don't know what you mean about the jack supporting higher frequencies. What has that got to do with anything? 00:30 < boza111> ok this is what i mean 00:30 < Izz^> It's a jack. It's just a connector. It doesn't really have a frequency. 00:30 < boza111> yes it does 00:30 < boza111> ok ill explain 00:30 < BleuLlama> it's a piece of metal 00:30 < Izz^> Let me get comfortable then. 00:30 < BleuLlama> and plastic 00:30 < courtc> ya know, if i just changed my cars engine to a diesel engine it'd run on diesel. 00:30 < Izz^> That's inspired! 00:30 < BleuLlama> if i replace my car with a toyota, it'd be an import 00:31 < BleuLlama> sorta 00:31 < BleuLlama> although, my car is a VW, so it's Mexican... hmmm 00:31 < boza111> sound is usually played back from 20 Hz to 5000 Hz 00:31 < BleuLlama> i guess it already is an Import 00:31 < BleuLlama> hahaha.. 00:31 < Izz^> OMG 00:31 < Izz^> I see where you're going with this. 00:31 < Izz^> Stop! 00:31 < boza111> Video is played back at about 5 MHz 00:31 < Izz^> WHAT!? 00:31 < Izz^> AHHH HAHAHAHAHAH 00:32 < BleuLlama> 5000 hz? damn. that's not even telephone quality 00:32 < boza111> if the jack could go as high as 5 MHz it would be able to connect to a tv and play a video 00:32 < ScOrPiO-P> where do i get the loader.bin 00:32 < BleuLlama> it's not the jack... 00:32 < ScOrPiO-P> 4 windows iPod Linux Installer 00:33 < Izz^> boza111, it's nothing to do with the jack.. 00:33 < Izz^> ...there is a fundamental bit of hardware missing. 00:33 < boza111> yea ! 00:33 < BleuLlama> if the connectors on my cassette deck were capable of higher frequencies, i could record video on my audio tapes! 00:33 * BleuLlama gets a patent 00:33 < BleuLlama> i just need better connectors! 00:33 < BleuLlama> the really funny thing 00:33 < boza111> that hardware makes the connector able to go at higher frequncies ! 00:33 < hyarion> it's called vhs :P 00:34 < BleuLlama> is that this channel is logged, and you're going to have these logs to look back on years from now to see "how stupid you were back then" 00:34 < Izz^> You want....to...overclock the headphone jack....? 00:34 < courtc> how do you clock a jack? 00:34 * Izz^ boggles 00:34 < boza111> lol ,, you dont clock it ,, You need that piece of hardware 00:34 < BleuLlama> you know... if you make the jack much much faster, you can use it to record light! 00:35 < boza111> yea thats probably true 00:35 < boza111> ! 00:35 < BleuLlama> as entertaining as this stupidity is, i need to put you on /ignore now. 00:35 < Izz^> boza111, the reason they don't make them go that fast is because the whole iPod would melt. Clearly. 00:35 < courtc> what the jack? 00:35 < courtc> make the jack go fast? 00:36 < boza111> look this is physics , sounds that we usually listen to range from 20 hz to 20 khz . Videos that are Tv;s run at our probably at about 5 Mhz 00:36 < courtc> alright, I'm finished making fun of you. 00:36 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:36 < courtc> but aegray can pick up where i left off. 00:36 < Izz^> boza111, are you talking about an RF modulator? 00:37 < aegray> where'd you leave off? 00:37 < boza111> so the ipod photos have an extra piece of hardware making the connector be able to go at roughly 5 Mhz 00:37 < aegray> wah? 00:37 < Izz^> ROFL 00:37 < courtc> apparently if you clock (????) the jack (?????????) of the ipod faster, you can play videos 00:37 < Izz^> aegray, you've just heard all you need to know to join in :) 00:37 < Izz^> I haven't laughed so much in ages. 00:38 < aegray> oh yea - thats right 00:38 < hyarion> boza111- the connector is only a pice of metal, it's as fast as it can be 00:38 < boza111> yea but the electric pulses that are played back have to be at a higher frequnecy 00:38 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 < boza111> GET IT ? 00:39 < hyarion> that has nothing to do with the connector 00:39 < hyarion> GET IT? 00:39 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:39 < BleuLlama> i understand what you're trying to say, but that's like saying that you can make all of your blue things red by stretching them out 00:39 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h50n2fls34o263.telia.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 00:39 < boza111> no i am not tlkn about the actually piece of metal . i am talkin about the hardware leading to the connector 00:39 < Izz^> Um.. .you can. 00:39 < BleuLlama> it sounds like it makes sense, but there are SIGNIFICANT FUNDAMENTAL problems with it 00:40 < Izz^> Blue things DO go red when you stretch them. It's probably quite hard to detect at the 'household' scale though :) 00:41 < BleuLlama> "My car isn't red, you're just moving away from it" 00:41 < boza111> damm , all i am saying is that if the ipod would have and extra piece of hardware connected to the jack allowing it to work at higher frequencies , it could play movies 00:41 < aegray> bahaha 00:41 < aegray> allowing what? to work at higher frequencies? 00:41 < BleuLlama> yes, that extra piece of hardware is called an iPod Photo 00:41 < aegray> boza111 what are you talking about? 00:41 < boza111> oh my god forget it 00:42 < aegray> no - explain 00:42 < aegray> i just came in late 00:42 < aegray> explain 00:42 < BleuLlama> he wants to add on a piece of hardware to the audio out to increase the speed of the jack to 5mhz so that you can play video out through it. 00:42 < boza111> well , i was triying to explain this for ages 00:42 < aegray> how do you increase the speed of the jack? 00:42 < boza111> no 00:42 < ScOrPiO-P> where do i get the loader.bin 4 windows iPod Linux Installer 00:42 < boza111> i am saying 00:42 < aegray> builds ScorPio 00:42 < BleuLlama> spell out your words, please. 00:43 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds 00:43 < boza111> that if you could increase the frequncy of the pulses going through the jack , by adding on a nother piece of hardware . you could play movies 00:43 < ScOrPiO-P> is the kernel.bin 00:44 < aegray> haha 00:44 < aegray> its the same thing 00:44 < Izz^> boza111, so you'd have video files on the iPod, and these would play as very high frequency 'noise' through the headphone jack...which some other device would then convert into video for the TV? 00:44 < aegray> ok - thats possible i guess - maybe 00:44 < aegray> not really 00:44 < boza111> it wouldnt need to be converted ! 00:44 < aegray> why wouldn't it? 00:45 < courtc> still again, if I had a mac I'd be able to run ppc apps.. 00:45 < aegray> ohok 00:45 < Izz^> It would if you wanted to get it through the iPod's AUDIO hardware :P 00:45 < boza111> it ould be just a "high frequency noise " . thats it 00:45 < aegray> he's saying you could convert the signal going along the audio card to ntsc 00:45 < aegray> boza111 - the ccard that goes through that port - the only way to get to that port, operates at 96kbps max 00:45 < Izz^> I don't understand why you need to increase the frequency then? My modem makes noises in the audible frequency range...and the data going through that can be streaming video. Very bad video, yes.. .but the point stands. 00:45 < aegray> 96hz* 00:45 < aegray> sorry 00:46 < aegray> Izz^: he wants to output to it as if its an rca video jack 00:46 < boza111> videos require about Mhz 00:46 < aegray> so no converter is needed 00:46 < aegray> boza111: then its not possible 00:46 < aegray> you'd have to change the chip in the ipod 00:46 < aegray> hey are there any problems with the new ipod firmware for the ipod photo? 00:46 < boza111> yea youd have to change the hardware . Its not a software thing 00:47 < Izz^> Hang on - boza111 - do you mean adding hardware inside the iPod...or outside of the iPod (something plugged into the audio jack)? 00:47 < Izz^> Well that's not an iPod then. 00:47 < boza111> i mean inside 00:47 * BleuLlama puts this idea next to the "putting a color lcd in a monochrome ipod" discussions 00:47 < aegray> yea - it would be easier to just create your own 00:47 < aegray> hahha BleuLlama 00:48 < Izz^> It *is* a bit like changing your car's petrol engine for a diesel one 'so that it can run on diesel'. 00:48 < boza111> lol , all i am saying is that its possible (even though its expensive). But thats how they converted a 4g into an ipod photo 00:48 < aegray> yea - not worth it 00:49 < aegray> thats like saying "it is possible to use electronic parts and build a video player" 00:49 < aegray> obviously 00:49 < BleuLlama> yep. that's exactly how they converted a 4g to be a photo 00:49 < Izz^> Okay. Start with your iPod plugged into the TV's composite ports. Can't play video, right? But now unplug the iPod and replace it with a portable DVD player. TADA! Video through the same cable! 00:49 < aegray> Izz^: amen 00:50 < boza111> omg i am so confused . i was just saying that if you record a very high frequency "sound " it would actually be a video . * But the normal ipod cant play back high frequency "sounds" 00:50 < boza111> does anyone get what i am saying ? 00:50 < aegray> yes 00:50 < BleuLlama> oh, we get it. 00:50 < BleuLlama> loud and clear 00:51 < Izz^> On the other hand! If Apple would JUST increase the slideshow rate of my iPod when it's plugged into the TV ...to...say...25 photos per second...... 00:51 < aegray> they won't 00:51 < Izz^> (I'm still being full-on sarcastic.) 00:51 < boza111> omg , finally you guys know what i mean 00:51 < boza111> that was all what i was triying to say 00:52 < Izz^> But boza111 - they probably WILL do that. 00:52 < Izz^> It's almost inevitable :) 00:52 < boza111> oh about the frames 00:52 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:52 -!- joshk [joshk@joshk.developer.debian] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:52 -!- joshk [joshk@adsl-68-126-216-211.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:52 < aegray> hey joshk 00:53 < aegray> oh right 00:53 < aegray> haha 00:53 < boza111> Apple , will much rather release an ipod "video" , so everyone who has an ipod photo upgrades. i doubt they would release a firmware upgrade 00:54 < Izz^> OMG 00:54 < aegray> video = eat battery 00:54 < courtc> pp5022 photo 00:54 < aegray> yea 00:55 -!- Hostile [lanteau@client3.vpn.zer0x.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- MikeRS [~Mike@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:56 < Izz^> Also: look at how slowly the iPod draws mandlebrot fractals and think again ;) 00:56 < boza111> omg , lol , i still feel exhausted arguing about the frequencies for video playback . lol 00:56 < courtc> Izz^, umm... 00:56 < courtc> unrelated 00:56 < aegray> yea no shit 00:57 < Izz^> Hence the ";)" 00:57 < aegray> Izz^: ;) doesn't excuse you for saying stupid things 00:57 < aegray> sorry 00:57 * aegray hits buzzer 00:57 < Izz^> What? 00:57 * BleuLlama trying to figure out why nanox/image library isn't loading ppm files 00:57 < boza111> lol 00:57 < courtc> umm... 00:57 < courtc> do we have ppm support? 00:58 < Izz^> Hang on...who wrote the fractal program for iPod? 00:58 < BleuLlama> yep. built into nanox 00:58 < aegray> some guy 00:58 < courtc> ok 00:58 < Izz^> So why so defensive? :P 00:58 < courtc> Martin Kaltenbrunner i think 00:58 < BleuLlama> sounds right 01:00 -!- monkeydefecation [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 01:00 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:00 < courtc> we weren't defensive.. mandelbrot sets aren't really ever meant to be drawn fast.. 01:00 < BleuLlama> man. it feels like everythingn i try to do just doesn't work 01:00 < BleuLlama> you should try drawing them on an old Atari Lynx! :D 01:01 < courtc> I mean look at the fracals screensaver on xscreensaver 01:01 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8DEC6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:01 < courtc> whats a good way to find a processes size in memory? 01:01 < BleuLlama> ps? top? 01:02 < Izz^> I've seen one or two seriously impressive realtime fractal programs about. 01:02 < courtc> no top 01:02 < courtc> maybe ps 01:02 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has joined #ipodlinux 01:02 < Troy^> hmm still never found a progtram to trim my movie 01:02 < Izz^> Remember fractint? 01:03 < BleuLlama> yup. cool program 01:03 < BleuLlama> Troy: try asking in a video channel, or perhaps search on versiontracker 01:03 < courtc> realtime on the ipod? I don't think so. 01:04 < BleuLlama> yeah... that's not going to happen 01:04 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8DEC6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:07 < BleuLlama> you're not private messaging me. 01:07 < BleuLlama> i know you're not 01:07 -!- thebman [~thebman@c-24-62-248-178.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:08 < Troy^> yup lmao 01:08 < BleuLlama> and you have just earned the coveted /ignore of Bleullama! congrats! 01:08 < Troy^> lol u must feel real special.. cuz u got somethin stuck up ur ass 01:09 < aegray> shutup 01:09 < Troy^> no 01:09 < Izz^> You know you can make people shut up on IRC? 01:09 < boza111> how ? 01:10 < Izz^> You can mute/muffle them. 01:10 -!- TheGrimSqueaker is now known as princeofdarkness 01:10 < boza111> oh ok 01:11 < Troy^> simple irc script can do that 01:12 < Daishi> Izz^: powerful ircops have /shun or something i think on unrealircd's 01:12 < Daishi> has people think theyre talking but no one sees what theyre typing 01:12 < Izz^> Well, yeah, or any channel op can moderate a channel and give everyone voice, then -v anyone they want to mute :) 01:13 < Daishi> that doesnt seem as cool though 01:13 < Daishi> because they'll know they cant talk 01:13 < courtc> Troy^, chill 01:13 < Izz^> Well that's just cruel. Stupid people would stay talking for ages. 01:13 < Daishi> so? 01:15 < Troy^> aight lmao 01:16 -!- thebman [~thebman@c-24-62-248-178.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:16 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [] 01:16 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:17 < Daishi> i have a Katamari Damacy song stuck in my head 01:17 < boza111> oh so tired 01:17 < Daishi> <3 that game 01:17 < boza111> c ya all 01:17 < boza111> \quit 01:17 < Daishi> bye 01:17 -!- boza111 [boza111@p5088BC3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:17 * BleuLlama lonely rolling star 01:17 < BleuLlama> great game soundtrack. :D 01:19 < BleuLlama> now the songs are stuck in my head too 01:20 < BleuLlama> damnit. i think i need to play 01:20 * BleuLlama afk 01:23 * TheDingo is listening to Suicide Solution by Ozzy Osbourne from Blizzard Of Ozz 01:23 < Troy^> hmm 01:24 < Daishi> hrm i just did a very small edit on a page on the ipl wiki and got some sql query hidden error, do i need to re-register my username since that time ipl was defaced? 01:24 < courtc> no 01:24 < Daishi> oo says it cant open file 01:27 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:27 -!- Eko [~Eko@user-12l2fjm.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:28 < Eko> help 01:28 < Eko> !help 01:28 < Daishi> oo so it gives an error but the changes work 01:36 -!- iplbot [~ircbot@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:37 < aegray> iplbot tell Daishi about wiki problems 01:37 < iplbot> Daishi, I guess the factoid 'wiki problem' might be appropriate: 01:37 < iplbot> Daishi, wiki problem is the wiki is currently experiencing problems. Don't worry, it will be back to normal soon. 01:37 < Daishi> iplbot help 01:37 < iplbot> Daishi, I have no idea what help is. 01:38 < courtc> ~iplbot 01:38 < iplbot> courtc, iplbot is something made to help out the devs who have to deal with your stupid questions. Day in.. Day out... 01:38 < aegray> haha 01:38 < Daishi> heh 01:39 < Daishi> ipl irc client! 01:45 < EvilDude> we have iplbot!!! :D? 01:45 < EvilDude> thats awesome!! 01:45 < EvilDude> usage instructions :P? 01:45 < Troy^> wow nero is being buggy 01:45 < Daishi> iplbot tell EvilDude about yourself 01:45 < iplbot> EvilDude, I have no idea what yourself is. 01:45 < Daishi> bastard bot 01:46 < aegray> it doesn't have much yet 01:46 < aegray> ~wiki 01:46 < iplbot> aegray, wiki is http://www.ipodlinux.org 01:46 < courtc> iplbot tell EvilDude about iplbot 01:46 < iplbot> EvilDude, iplbot is something made to help out the devs who have to deal with your stupid questions. Day in.. Day out... 01:46 < courtc> no offence 01:46 < EvilDude> iplbot tell EvilDude about key combinations 01:46 < EvilDude> heh read that already :P 01:46 < EvilDude> I meant as in any commands, or just tell about *topic name* 01:46 < iplbot> EvilDude, I have no idea what key combinations is. 01:47 < EvilDude> iplbot tell EvilDude about Disk Mode 01:47 < iplbot> EvilDude, I have no idea what Disk Mode is. 01:47 < EvilDude> heh =\ 01:47 < EvilDude> I think he needs a bigger database rofl 01:47 < aegray> ~help 01:47 < iplbot> aegray, help is :: Don't worry about it. The devs will use me as they please to answer questions. If you want to look up a subject, type ~ and the subject and I might find it for you. 01:47 < aegray> there we go 01:47 < hyarion> iplbot tell EvilDude about ipodlinux 01:47 < iplbot> EvilDude, I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 01:47 < iplbot> EvilDude, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 01:47 < aegray> EvilDude - its in alpha - we're working 01:47 < aegray> haha 01:47 < EvilDude> haha cool 01:47 < EvilDude> thats awesome :D 01:47 < EvilDude> finally 01:48 < EvilDude> ~cvs 01:48 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'cvs log' might be appropriate: 01:48 < iplbot> EvilDude, cvs log is http://booc.coob.org/ipl 01:48 < EvilDude> *been waiting for a bot to answer stupid questions for a while :P* 01:48 < aegray> haha 01:48 < EvilDude> next step: make it smarter and answer stupid questions automatically haha 01:48 < aegray> thats the plan :) 01:49 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 01:49 < Daishi> or atleast shorten the commands damnit 01:50 < Daishi> like do !wiki problems 01:50 < EvilDude> hmm? all you need us ~ 01:50 < EvilDude> ~wiki 01:50 < iplbot> EvilDude, wiki is http://www.ipodlinux.org 01:50 < CelticSoulVN> Hi 01:50 < aegray> hi 01:50 < EvilDude> ~wiki problems 01:50 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'wiki problems is: the wiki' might be appropriate: 01:50 < iplbot> EvilDude, wiki problems is: the wiki is currently having some problems. It will be back up soon. Please be patient 01:50 < aegray> there you go 01:50 < Daishi> EvilDude: ~ is a little too left and radical 01:50 < Daishi> we dont want to come off as commies 01:50 < aegray> please don't abuse this or i will be pissed 01:50 < EvilDude> heh 01:50 < EvilDude> haha sorry :P 01:50 < EvilDude> Just showing how the commands arent so long once ~ is used :) 01:50 < hyarion> btw, I've recorded avi's on how to restart an ipod :P 01:51 < CelticSoulVN> anyone here has successfully installed ipodlinux on linux (4G ipod)? 01:51 < aegray> i'm not yelling at you - just saying don't overdue it ever 01:51 < aegray> ~4g install 01:51 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'installing from linux' might be appropriate: 01:51 < Troy^> yea 01:51 < iplbot> aegray, installing from linux is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 01:51 < aegray> damn it 01:51 < hyarion> should I upload it to the wiki? 01:51 < aegray> ~4g installer 01:51 < iplbot> aegray, 4g installer is http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer 01:51 < CelticSoulVN> for 4G ipod 01:51 < aegray> iplbot tell celticsoulvN about 4g 01:51 < iplbot> celticsoulvN, 4g is UNSUPPORTED 01:51 < CelticSoulVN> from linux 01:51 < aegray> hahaha 01:51 < hyarion> hehe 01:52 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: Yes 01:52 < CelticSoulVN> I saw people got it run in the forum 01:52 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: yes i have it running 01:52 < aegray> but i'm the only one 01:52 < Daishi> yea 01:52 < EvilDude> rofl nice :) 01:52 < Daishi> aegray hasnt told us his secret 01:52 < EvilDude> love the caps 01:52 < aegray> haha 01:52 < Daishi> but i want to get it to run 01:52 < Eko> ... 01:52 < Troy^> i have it running 01:52 < CelticSoulVN> how do you do it? 01:52 < Eko> 4G? 01:52 < Eko> as in iPod Photo? 01:52 < Daishi> im tired of iPodXP 01:52 < aegray> iplbot tell Troy^ about shutting up 01:52 < Eko> my friend has it running 01:52 < iplbot> Troy^, shutting up is what you should do right now 01:53 < CelticSoulVN> yes, 4d ipod photo 60GB 01:53 < Troy^> :P 01:53 < courtc> ~cvs 01:53 < iplbot> courtc, cvs is anonymous @ cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux || most popular modules being: tools/podzilla, linux, and tools/ipodloader. || Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/CVS 01:53 < Daishi> Eko: he must have been the one who hacked aegray's comp 01:53 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: It works but it is UNSUPPORTED 01:53 < Daishi> and found out the secret 01:53 < aegray> that bastard! 01:53 < Eko> Daishi, ah, that must be it. 01:53 < CelticSoulVN> I dont mind it's unsupported :) 01:54 < Eko> unsupported just means that when you get it working, you don't have to answer questions about how, lol. 01:54 < CelticSoulVN> LOL 01:54 < Troy^> yea 01:54 < Eko> oh, and you can laugh all the harder at the people who fail. 01:54 < aegray> damn straight 01:54 < Daishi> yea 01:55 < Daishi> since a simple gui installer is so hard for you windows users 01:55 < Eko> hahaha. 01:55 < CelticSoulVN> here is my question in the forum: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2875 01:55 * Eko prefers the command line way. 01:55 < Troy^> wow its taking forever for nero to encode my video to burn svcd 01:55 < Daishi> and a linux install isnt hard at all 01:55 < Daishi> and i cant afford a mac )-L 01:55 < Daishi> : 01:55 < Eko> CelticSoulVN, what makes you think we'll click your link? 01:55 < Eko> for one thing, that would require opening a browser, which requires more memory than I have available 01:55 < CelticSoulVN> Ijust hope someone will help me out that's all 01:56 < Eko> with what? 01:56 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: you have to use make_fw -3 01:56 < Eko> iPL on a 4G? 01:56 < Troy^> wow its gonna take like 4 hours to encode my damn vidceo 01:56 < aegray> wah 01:56 < CelticSoulVN> I did that with -3 (with a differrence make_fw) 01:57 < Daishi> Eko: it does? how about screen or bitchx's /detach and links? 01:57 < Daishi> or an extra virtual terminal? 01:57 < Eko> Daishi, for another thing, it requires effort. 01:57 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: your best bet is to download nightly's then do the make_fw and stuff with it 01:57 < Daishi> i dont think it would require all that much memory even on the oldest hardware 01:57 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: I dont think it works with uclinux-2.4.24-ipod.bin 01:58 < Daishi> heh 01:58 < aegray> ~tell CelticSoulVN about builds 01:58 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, builds is http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 01:58 < CelticSoulVN> I downloadd and changed the bin file 01:58 < aegray> changed it? 01:58 < Eko> Daishi, well see, I'd have to open a terminal, copy the link, type "links " and then middle mouse click and then... if I could bring myself to do it, hit enter... 01:58 < CelticSoulVN> I mean change uclinux-2.4.24-ipod.bin qith the new bin file 01:58 < Eko> or symlink it. 01:58 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: you downloaded nightly's? 01:59 < hyarion> his using qwerty, hide! 01:59 < Troy^> u can hook ipod to a linux machine i didnt know that 01:59 < CelticSoulVN> I down load my bin files from: http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 01:59 < Troy^> i didnt think there was support 01:59 < Eko> if you downloaded it by name, it would be something like 07-21-05-uclinux.bin 01:59 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit ["running"] 01:59 < Daishi> aegray: 's shows posession while s is for plural 01:59 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: and what was your make_fw command? 01:59 < aegray> whatever 01:59 < Daishi> and im aware its irc 02:00 < Daishi> but if youre going to use that excuse you shouldnt have attempted the ' 02:00 < Eko> Daishi, ot 02:00 < Eko> *it's 02:00 < courtc> nightlys 02:00 < aegray> where did i do that daishi? 02:00 < CelticSoulVN> same as the Linux instalation instruction but with the -3 ( make_fw -3 -o ....) 02:00 < Daishi> case in point 02:00 < courtc> not a word 02:00 < courtc> shouldn't* 02:00 < Daishi> CelticSoulVN: you downloaded nightly's? 02:00 < courtc> I'm 02:00 < aegray> yea i messed up 02:00 < aegray> haha courtc 02:01 < aegray> ~tell daishi about talking shit to devs 02:01 < iplbot> daishi, talking shit to devs is stupid. They work hard for this project and you contribute nothing. Contribute, or shut your mouth. 02:01 < CelticSoulVN> I downloaded from http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ it this nightly? 02:01 < Daishi> and you shall pay dearly! 02:01 < Daishi> i contribute me 02:01 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: yes thats right 02:01 < Daishi> and thats damn good enough 02:01 < aegray> Daishi: not good enough 02:01 < Daishi> im only kidding 02:01 < aegray> i know 02:02 < Daishi> and thx courtc 02:02 < aegray> ~courtc 02:02 < iplbot> aegray, courtc is a dev, you are not, fuck off. 02:02 < aegray> hahaaha 02:03 < Eko> ~aegray 02:03 < iplbot> Eko, aegray is amazing. I love him. You should too. Please love him? 02:03 < Eko> rofl. 02:03 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: what did you do with uclinux-2.4.24.ipod.bin? 02:03 < CelticSoulVN> I dont use it at all 02:03 < Eko> ... 02:03 < Daishi> you know i almost got a bj while on irc the other day, but inet was down it sucked 02:03 < Eko> *blink* 02:03 < aegray> *coughs* 02:03 < Daishi> i got one anyway though! 02:03 * aegray doesn't believe it 02:04 < Eko> and this is me caring. 02:04 < CelticSoulVN> I replaced it with the new file 2005-07-22.kernel.bin 02:04 < aegray> haha 02:04 < aegray> what was your exact make_fw command 02:04 < aegray> type the whole thing out 02:04 < Daishi> aegray: and i ported fluxbox to ipl! 02:04 < CelticSoulVN> ok, just a sec 02:04 < aegray> what's fluxbox? 02:05 < Daishi> best wm ever 02:05 < Prot> whats wm 02:05 < Daishi> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/version-0.9.php 02:05 < Daishi> window manager 02:05 < CelticSoulVN> ./make_fw -3 -o my_sw.bin -i apple_os.bin -l 2005-07-22.kernel.bin loader.bin 02:06 < Troy^> hmm lol 02:06 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: where'd you get make_fw from? 02:06 < aegray> cvs? 02:07 < CelticSoulVN> from here: http://www.ipodlinux.org/How_to_install_iPodLinux_on_4G_iPod_using_Linux 02:07 < courtc> no, wally is better than flux 02:07 < aegray> woh 02:07 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: I'd try updating everything from cvs and building 02:07 < courtc> ~cvs 02:07 < iplbot> courtc, cvs is anonymous @ cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux || Most popular modules being: tools/podzilla, linux, and tools/ipodloader. || Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/CVS || Also try 'cvs log' and 'cia' 02:07 < aegray> ncie 02:07 < aegray> nice* 02:08 < CelticSoulVN> what should I do now? 02:08 < CelticSoulVN> :) 02:08 < aegray> gah - download from cvs and build 02:08 < aegray> iplbot tell CelticSoulVN about cvs 02:08 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, cvs is anonymous @ cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux || Most popular modules being: tools/podzilla, linux, and tools/ipodloader. || Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/CVS || Also try 'cvs log' and 'cia' 02:08 < aegray> that was meant for you the first time 02:09 < aegray> your stuff is probably just out of date 02:09 < CelticSoulVN> is userland out of date? 02:09 < CelticSoulVN> got my userland from the link in the installlation instruction 02:09 < aegray> userland isn't the problem - your only problems would be ipodloader and kernel 02:10 < CelticSoulVN> ipod_fs_040403.tar.gz 02:10 < CelticSoulVN> alright then, I'll try CVS 02:10 < aegray> CelticSoulVN: userland doesn't matter until after the kernel boots 02:10 < aegray> ok cool 02:10 < CelticSoulVN> I ve never tried it before 02:10 -!- linux_insidev2 [~likei@203-206-250-150.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 < aegray> theres a time for everything 02:11 < CelticSoulVN> how to use cvs in linux? 02:11 < linux_insidev2> hi guys 02:11 < aegray> hi there 02:12 < linux_insidev2> just thought i'd pop in and say hi to all the devs, and that you have done marvellous work since i last updated my ipodlinux 02:12 < courtc> iplbot, tell CelticSoulVN about google CVS in linux 02:12 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, I'll tell you the results in a private message, CelticSoulVN 02:12 < Eko> CelticSoulVN, command line 02:12 < courtc> that's almost mean... :/ sorry 02:12 < linux_insidev2> i was using it last months ago without audio because i have a photo 02:12 < aegray> haha 02:12 < CelticSoulVN> ok, thanks, I'll go Google there 02:13 < aegray> sweet linux_insidev2 02:13 < linux_insidev2> now it has audio, skinabillity and way more and just thought i'd say thanks 02:13 < aegray> thanks! 02:13 * aegray loves people like linux_insidev2 with great attitudes 02:13 < courtc> yep 02:13 < linux_insidev2> i love the amika themes too :P 02:13 < linux_insidev2> amiga* 02:13 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-215-217-84.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:13 < courtc> we love positive feedback. 02:13 < Eko> being a dev is a thankless job, but when people come and thank you like that, its a pretty good feeling. 02:14 < linux_insidev2> im thinkig of not using appleos anymore 02:14 < linux_insidev2> diskmode is my friend 02:14 < Eko> rofl, linux_insidev2. 02:14 < aegray> that might disappear too... 02:14 < aegray> hehe 02:15 < courtc> ~Eko 02:15 < iplbot> courtc, Eko is not a dev. 02:15 < aegray> haha 02:15 < Eko> correction, not an iPodLinux dev. 02:15 < aegray> what dev are you? 02:15 < Eko> shadowIRCd most recently. 02:15 < linux_insidev2> i was suprised to see it ask me if i wanted to switch to disk mode when i plugged the firewire cable in 02:15 < aegray> firewire?? 02:16 < aegray> that should only be usb 02:16 < joshk> wow 02:16 < joshk> yeah 02:16 < Eko> it works with fw cable too? 02:16 < joshk> my thoughts exactly 02:16 < joshk> but apparently ti works! 02:16 < linux_insidev2> yeah 02:16 < aegray> weird 02:16 < courtc> nice aegray. 02:16 < linux_insidev2> i bought the firewire cable for my photo so i could charge with 12v 02:16 < courtc> unintentional features rock. 02:16 * aegray thinks maybe ohci and ehci are handled on same chip 02:16 < aegray> wow cool 02:16 * aegray lucky 02:16 < linux_insidev2> i'll just double check 02:17 < linux_insidev2> i might have had the usb one in 02:17 < Eko> it makse sense though, it would be a waste of a chip if the iPod had to check two places to see if its connected to a computer. *it's 02:17 < aegray> umm.. not really - usually you have separate chips for firewire and usb 02:18 < linux_insidev2> nah ur right 02:18 < aegray> ok 02:18 < aegray> damn 02:18 < linux_insidev2> i must have had the usb in, i have the dock cable with both connectors 02:18 < courtc> oh, boo 02:18 < Eko> since both can provide power, both can provide connectivity, both have to have low level memory management separate from that of the running OS, i'd hazard a guess that their is either one chip that handles all of them or one chip that manages the FW and USB chips. 02:19 < Eko> but I haven't gotten into my IC classes or PCB or anything, so yeah. 02:19 < linux_insidev2> btw if anyone needs a dead pcb from an ipod photo 1.0 let me know :P 02:20 < Eko> lol. 02:20 < Eko> find somthing creative to do with it. 02:20 < linux_insidev2> im hacking the hdd cable on it 02:20 < Eko> wind chimes don't count. 02:20 < aegray> linux_insidev2: i wnat it! 02:20 < aegray> haha 02:20 < linux_insidev2> done 02:20 < linux_insidev2> i keep the hdd cable tho 02:20 < aegray> sure 02:21 < linux_insidev2> the ic that controls the voltages is well.... dead 02:21 < aegray> Eko: find out how hard it would be to implement a chip that has both sets of registers in the right locations at the same base and you'll see why there's too chips 02:21 < aegray> linux_insidev2: the pmu? 02:21 < linux_insidev2> i think so 02:21 < Eko> aegray, i'll take your word for it. 02:21 < linux_insidev2> at the bottom of the pcb 02:21 < linux_insidev2> next to the battery connector 02:21 < aegray> ah ok 02:21 < linux_insidev2> i was experimenting 02:21 < courtc> iplbot, tell Eko about gens 02:21 < iplbot> Eko, gens is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Generations 02:21 < linux_insidev2> and yeah 02:21 < Eko> aegray, how did you learn to program low level stuff? 02:22 < aegray> tried it out 02:22 < Eko> courtc, why do I need to know about gens? 02:22 < aegray> thats how you learn everything! 02:22 < Eko> hmm. 02:22 * Eko is going to be away from a computer for the next three weeks... 02:22 < courtc> Eko, because it shows the chips 02:22 < Eko> which code file would you recommend me read from the iPL project to get some idea about the low level workings of the code? 02:23 < linux_insidev2> haha all of the kernel modules 02:23 < aegray> in the kernel - arch/armnommu/mach-ipod 02:23 < Eko> kernel. 02:23 < Eko> scary. 02:23 < linux_insidev2> so what was preventing the audioon 4g working? 02:23 < linux_insidev2> audio on* 02:23 < aegray> audio goes through i2s on 4g 02:23 < courtc> Eko, you said low level. 02:23 < linux_insidev2> ahh ok 02:23 < aegray> had to figure out that 02:23 < Eko> so I did. 02:23 < linux_insidev2> the i2c 02:24 < aegray> i2c = 3g i2s = 4g 02:24 < linux_insidev2> thats why the i2c patch and audio were in the same cvs update 02:24 < linux_insidev2> ahh k 02:24 < linux_insidev2> never heard of i2s 02:24 < linux_insidev2> now i have 02:24 < linux_insidev2> very tricky stuff, 02:24 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/PP5020 02:24 < linux_insidev2> you must be very determined 02:24 < Eko> courtc/aegray, please tell me that mach-ipod isn't as massive as the linux kernel... 02:25 < aegray> Eko: no its not 02:25 < courtc> it isn't 02:25 < aegray> its like 8 files 02:25 < Eko> how many lines? 02:25 < aegray> 6000000 02:25 < Eko> and is it (well?) commented? 02:25 < aegray> not really 02:25 < aegray> its mostly inl() and outl() 02:25 < Eko> being? 02:25 < aegray> outl writes some memory to a hardware address 02:25 < aegray> inl reads some memory address 02:26 < Eko> I figured it was something like that. 02:26 < Eko> so thats what you guys have to be hacking to get stuff to work? 02:26 < courtc> 6225 total 02:26 < Eko> you have to know the memory addresses at which the chips' registers reside or w/e? 02:27 < aegray> yes 02:27 < aegray> we reverse engineer the apple os mostly 02:27 < Eko> how do you figure that out? chip documentation? 02:27 < Eko> hmm. 02:27 < aegray> no - through reverse engineering 02:27 < linux_insidev2> someone should buy rights to portal player chips to figure out all the registers lol 02:27 < Eko> gnireenigne. fun. watching for memory accesses, or what? 02:28 < linux_insidev2> although it would be sooo much money 02:28 < aegray> it would be under nda then and they couldn't share it 02:28 < linux_insidev2> the aldipod and olympus m:robe use PP dont they? 02:28 < aegray> yea they do i think 02:28 < linux_insidev2> interesting.... 02:28 < aegray> different hardware external to the chip though :/ 02:29 < linux_insidev2> ergh 02:29 < linux_insidev2> yeah the display controller and stuff 02:29 < courtc> and the rest 02:29 < Eko> oh, I meant to ask, why is there a linux-2.6 tree in CVS? 02:29 < aegray> Eko: we can't debug. We just read the program's asm and figure out what it does 02:29 < linux_insidev2> if only people would buy the best, instead of all that other crap 02:29 < Eko> is someone working on that? 02:29 < aegray> they were 02:29 < Eko> but its not the main focus? 02:29 < courtc> no 02:29 < aegray> hold on 02:29 < Eko> k. 02:29 < Eko> just checking. 02:30 < aegray> main focus? 02:30 < Eko> I mean, is the project gearing toward a 2.6 switch in the near future. 02:31 < Eko> or is that a pie-in-the-sky dream? 02:31 < aegray> dunno 02:31 < linux_insidev2> is there a need or benifit to use 2.6? 02:31 < aegray> not really 02:31 < courtc> pie in the fridge 02:31 < linux_insidev2> it would just complicate things 02:31 < aegray> i know it offers one thing but i forgot what it was 02:31 < aegray> it's harder on hardware too 02:32 < courtc> proper eth over 1394 02:32 < linux_insidev2> ahh ok 02:32 < courtc> maybe a pseudo vm 02:32 < linux_insidev2> well, no use for me then :P 02:32 < macpod> There will be a switch over to 2.6 sometime 02:33 < macpod> But not for a while because current uclinux patch releases have ide problems 02:33 < reppard> when i try to compile the ipodloader i get an error in startup.s but it doesnt tell me where the error is, any hints? 02:33 < macpod> Among other things 02:33 < aegray> reppard: #ipodlinux.flood 02:34 < Eko> hmm... 02:34 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 02:34 < Eko> do I need to print the headers? 02:35 < aegray> what headers? 02:35 < Eko> include/* 02:35 < Daishi> use lpr! 02:35 < Daishi> to print! 02:35 < Eko> serial.h and friends... 02:35 < aegray> print the headers? 02:35 < Eko> aegray, i'm printing some of the kernel for light reading. 02:35 < linux_insidev2> hahahaha 02:35 < courtc> ummmm 02:36 * linux_insidev2 wipes away a tear 02:36 < aegray> hahaha 02:36 < Eko> once I get doen reading Shadow of the Giant, of course. 02:37 < Eko> done. 02:38 * Eko decides to read the podzilla code 02:38 * Eko figures it'll be easier to do without asking questions. 02:39 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-215-217-84.aep.bellsouth.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:39 < Eko> almost as many lines of code in it though, lol. 02:39 < linux_insidev2> with the video plyer, how long should it take to load the videos? 02:39 < Eko> 33,000 vs 39,000 02:40 < aegray> linux_insidev2: i've heard it freezes sometime 02:40 < aegray> on load 02:40 < aegray> although i've never experienced it 02:40 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-215-217-84.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:40 < linux_insidev2> im trying to play the vids off the site that are ipod ads 02:40 < linux_insidev2> they ay they've been converted but it seems to take forever to load no matter which one i choose 02:41 < aegray> never plasy? 02:41 < aegray> plays* 02:41 < linux_insidev2> nope 02:41 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has joined #ipodlinux 02:45 < aegray> hHHAHAHAH 02:45 < aegray> whoops 02:46 < linux_insidev2> lol 02:46 < linux_insidev2> wat 02:46 < aegray> wrong room 02:47 * aegray irc noob with clunky fingers 02:47 < linux_insidev2> lol 02:47 < linux_insidev2> same 02:47 < aegray> but you're a linux inside dev! 02:47 < courtc> nono 02:47 < courtc> linux inside v2 02:47 < linux_insidev2> eh? 02:47 < aegray> oh 02:47 < aegray> haha 02:47 < linux_insidev2> lol 02:47 * aegray needs glasses 02:48 < linux_insidev2> hahaha 02:48 < linux_insidev2> im gonna download the latest nightlies and try this video again 02:48 < aegray> yea! 02:48 < aegray> wait - question 02:48 < aegray> did you update podzilla ? 02:48 < linux_insidev2> yes 02:48 < courtc> AND the kernel? 02:48 < aegray> because i broke it - you have to update both to current if you want it to work 02:49 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.158.129.166.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 < linux_insidev2> i did 02:49 < aegray> hmm 02:49 < linux_insidev2> i did a fresh install 02:49 * aegray writes shoddy software 02:49 < Eko> yay for breaking things. 02:49 < linux_insidev2> nah 02:49 < linux_insidev2> i think i did something wrong 02:49 * Eko remembers when he messed up the QUIT code... 02:49 < courtc> so, who thinks what about the sliding menus? 02:49 < aegray> sliding menus rock! 02:49 < linux_insidev2> waut 02:49 < macpod> It slows me down :/ 02:49 < Eko> that screwed up the beta server big time, lol. 02:49 < linux_insidev2> wait* 02:49 < aegray> ~courtc++ 02:49 < iplbot> karma = 0 02:49 < iplbot> Updated karma 02:49 < linux_insidev2> question: 02:49 < aegray> haha 02:49 < linux_insidev2> can i update the kernel with windows? 02:49 < aegray> waut?? 02:49 < aegray> yes 02:50 < courtc> macpod, I added an option, picky 02:50 < macpod> I know 02:50 < reppard> aegray, i had it installed and still the same 02:50 < aegray> linux_insidev2: your using the installer - copy the kernel.bin over the linux.bin 02:50 < macpod> hey did you see that contrast bug? 02:50 < aegray> reppard - i dunno i don't use macs 02:50 < macpod> along with the menu freezing bug? 02:50 < linux_insidev2> no im not 02:50 < reppard> haha alright, thanks anyway 02:50 < linux_insidev2> i installed using my laptop 02:50 < linux_insidev2> with linux 02:50 < courtc> I saw it, but don't remeber it.. put it on the tracker please? 02:50 < aegray> linux_insidev2: oh ok - with windows you can too 02:50 < linux_insidev2> but meh, i'll go get the laptop 02:50 < Eko> reppard, whats your question? 02:51 < macpod> Gah, I'm trying to leave here ;P 02:51 < aegray> Eko: he's having build errors with ipodloader 02:51 < aegray> haha Mac64 02:51 < Eko> hmm. 02:51 < aegray> whoops 02:51 < Eko> weird, mine built fine yesterday 02:51 < macpod> I'll be on vacation next week so have fun dealing with tech support in the forum :) 02:51 < Eko> but I have fink packages installed, so that might be it 02:51 < linux_insidev2> bbl 02:51 < courtc> :/ 02:51 < courtc> I barely read the forums anymore.. 02:52 < aegray> iplbot tell macpod my wish 02:52 < iplbot> The syntax is: tell nick about factoid - you missed out the 'about', aegray 02:52 < aegray> iplbot tell macpod about my wish 02:52 < iplbot> macpod, my wish is that you have fun on your trip 02:52 < aegray> haha 02:52 < linux_insidev2> lol 02:52 < aegray> courtc: me too - they've been hijacked 02:53 < macpod> they will be flooded with the questions people usually email me : 02:53 < aegray> yech 02:53 < macpod> how is your bot programmed? 02:54 < macpod> I don't see trip 02:54 < aegray> what do you mean? what language? 02:54 < macpod> n/m 02:54 < Eko> where in the code are preferences loaded on startup? 02:55 < Eko> what file would that be in? 02:55 < aegray> /etc/podzilla.conf 02:55 < Eko> normalperson, the code that does the loading. 02:55 < Eko> no* 02:55 < aegray> wait - oh the actual code? 02:55 < aegray> hold on 02:55 * Eko mutters about autonick completion. 02:55 < courtc> settings.c 02:55 < courtc> ipod.c 02:55 < Eko> k 02:55 < Eko> thanks 02:55 < aegray> ipod_load_settings() 02:56 < aegray> pz.c -> main() 02:56 < linux_insidev2> how can i control the backlight with scripting? is there a proc interface? or do i need to do memory access? 02:56 < aegray> look in podzilla's code 02:56 < aegray> ipod.c 02:56 < aegray> theres a call there 02:56 < aegray> an ioctl 02:56 < linux_insidev2> oh k 02:56 < linux_insidev2> thanks, its just my backlight doesnt turn on when i boot IPL, i have to change the setting to turn it on 02:57 < aegray> oh wait 02:57 < courtc> main() -> ipod_load_settings() -> load_settings() 02:57 < aegray> theres a setting for that 02:57 < courtc> set the setting, save 02:57 < aegray> linux_insidev2: in podzilla save settings 02:57 < aegray> haha courtc 02:57 < linux_insidev2> i do 02:57 < linux_insidev2> it saves everything 02:57 < aegray> save backlight on always 02:57 < linux_insidev2> err 02:57 < linux_insidev2> k 02:59 < Eko> aegray, my iPod does the same thing, if you tell it to do timed backlight, and save settings, you have to do the same thing the next time you boot 02:59 < Eko> thats actually why I was asking about loading settings. 02:59 -!- ^^yanagi^^ [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 < courtc> wot wot? 03:00 < aegray> yea i haven't had that problem 03:00 * courtc looks.. 03:00 * aegray hates problems 03:00 < linux_insidev2> yeah 03:00 < linux_insidev2> it loads the settings 03:00 < linux_insidev2> but wont turn on the backlight 03:00 < aegray> hmm 03:01 < linux_insidev2> you have to change the backlight setting on every boot 03:01 < aegray> hold menu? 03:01 < aegray> hehe 03:01 < linux_insidev2> might be a 4g/photo thing 03:01 < courtc> nah, I'll look over it. 03:01 < ScOrPiO-P> hold menu when ipod loads podzilla up 03:01 < ScOrPiO-P> and backlight comes on 03:02 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 < courtc> ok, its a dup problem with the contrast thing.. 03:02 < courtc> I'll fix it 03:02 < linux_insidev2> cheers 03:03 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 03:03 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-71-247-243-230.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 03:03 < linux_insidev2> night 03:04 < linux_insidev2> omg 03:04 < linux_insidev2> i got the videos working 03:04 < aegray> hmm? 03:04 < aegray> cool! 03:04 < linux_insidev2> the ipod ads look awesome 03:04 < aegray> although video is pretty shitty 03:04 < Eko> its not a 4g thing, i've got a 3g 03:04 < aegray> kind of a waste of time 03:05 < linux_insidev2> not on mine 03:05 < aegray> stupid video 03:05 < ScOrPiO-P> my scroll wheel stop working when got to file browser in Podzilla and load up podzilla-ti3 or ViPodzilla or Poke-Zilla 03:05 < linux_insidev2> works well on my photo 03:05 < ScOrPiO-P> go to* 03:05 < aegray> booooo video! 03:05 < linux_insidev2> now get the audio working lol 03:05 < Eko> ScOrPiO-P, can you switch the hold switch and see the widget change/ 03:05 < Eko> *? 03:05 < linux_insidev2> does your site take donations? 03:05 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:05 < aegray> ~tell linux_insidev2 about video with sound 03:05 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I guess the factoid 'sound in video' might be appropriate: 03:06 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, sound in video is :: fuck off 03:06 < aegray> hahaha 03:06 < linux_insidev2> hahaha 03:06 < linux_insidev2> i dont think the cpu could take it could it 03:06 < aegray> don't speculate 03:06 < aegray> :) 03:06 < linux_insidev2> k 03:06 * aegray has tricks up his pant legs and sleevs and pockets 03:06 < aegray> all 3 places! 03:06 < ScOrPiO-P> hold switch dose nowt all othere buttons work 03:06 < linux_insidev2> next payday im donating some money, this things awesome 03:06 < aegray> sleeves* 03:07 < Eko> none in your shoes? 03:07 < aegray> linux_insidev2: nice! 03:07 < aegray> Eko: maybe 03:07 < Eko> lol. 03:07 * aegray goes back to coding and stops talking 03:07 < Eko> thats why it's secret, eh? 03:07 < linux_insidev2> hahahaha 03:07 < linux_insidev2> im off to switch my boot order so that IPL is default 03:07 < aegray> one note: it's obviously capable 03:07 < linux_insidev2> yeah ur right 03:08 < linux_insidev2> it has a dsp, seperate from the cpu 03:08 < aegray> linux_insidev2: now that it turns off thats not a bad idea :) 03:08 < Eko> just out of curiosity, is the settings magic thing there just to make sure people don't tamper with it, or what? 03:08 < aegray> linux_insidev2: look at that hack from engadget about playing movie with scrollwheel from pictureviewer 03:08 < aegray> it obviously works 03:08 < linux_insidev2> yeah ive seen it 03:08 < linux_insidev2> well, i have to say im impressed 03:09 < linux_insidev2> i bought an ipod after seeing ipodlinux existed and i have to say it was worth it 03:09 < linux_insidev2> i wish i could code lol 03:09 < aegray> haha 03:10 < linux_insidev2> i can replace my apple firmware, the photo's forced diskmode is in hardware :P 03:10 < Eko> what graphics library is podzilla using? 03:10 < Eko> I forgert. 03:10 < Eko> *forget 03:10 < aegray> Eko: microwindows 03:10 < Eko> k 03:10 < aegray> linux_insidev2: turnoff works 03:10 < aegray> ok afk 03:10 * aegray afk 03:10 * aegray repeats himself 03:13 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Donations 03:14 < linux_insidev2> i'll have to do it at the end of the week, its 1:14pm on a saturday here, im in aus 03:14 < linux_insidev2> but its worth it 03:15 < courtc> :) 03:15 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E8C7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:18 < ScOrPiO-P> im donating some cash when ipl will be supported 4G ipods 03:19 < courtc> ~when will 03:19 < iplbot> courtc, when will is :: WE DON"T KNOW, STOP ASKING! 03:20 < ScOrPiO-P> so idk when it will be 03:20 -!- ^^yanagi^^ [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:21 < linux_insidev2> the 4g works... 03:22 < ScOrPiO-P> 4G ipods and above are currently UNSUPPORTED 03:22 < linux_insidev2> yes 03:22 < linux_insidev2> but the cvs versions work 03:23 < linux_insidev2> im sitting here listening to tunes on my ipod photo 03:24 < linux_insidev2> oh and watching videos :P 03:24 < linux_insidev2> i cant wait to show my roomate 03:25 < ScOrPiO-P> yes it works 4 me but my scroll wheel stop working when go to file browser in Podzilla and load up podzilla-ti3 or ViPodzilla or Poke-Zilla and some time freeze on me 03:25 < linux_insidev2> works on mine 03:25 < linux_insidev2> maybe you're browsing a huge directory 03:25 < linux_insidev2> u reinstalled yet? 03:25 < courtc> quit running podzilla under podzilla 03:26 < linux_insidev2> HAHAHAHA 03:26 -!- wpaulson [~wpaulson@h-66-167-220-17.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:26 < linux_insidev2> u gotta be kidding me 03:26 < ScOrPiO-P> how do i run them then 03:26 < linux_insidev2> edit your /etc/rc file 03:28 < ScOrPiO-P> can it be done in windows 03:28 < linux_insidev2> i dunno 03:28 < linux_insidev2> sif use windows 03:29 < courtc> just copy *zilla to /bin/podzill on your ipod 03:29 < courtc> /bin/podzilla* 03:29 < linux_insidev2> haha he cant 03:29 < linux_insidev2> he is using windows 03:29 < linux_insidev2> cant see sda3 03:29 < ScOrPiO-P> i use start fiel 03:29 < courtc> yea, use the start file 03:29 < ScOrPiO-P> files 03:31 < ScOrPiO-P> i got the new podzilla files 03:31 < ScOrPiO-P> and made start like this 03:31 < ScOrPiO-P> mv /hp/podzilla /sbin/ 03:31 < ScOrPiO-P> rm /hp/start 03:31 < iplbot> ScOrPiO-P: wrong window, pal 03:32 < ScOrPiO-P> huh 03:34 < EvilDude> ignore him :P 03:34 < ScOrPiO-P> oh ok 03:35 < aegray> woo 03:35 < aegray> just felt like doing that 03:36 < Tonkajds> so....aegray, how is the book coming? 03:36 < Tonkajds> heeh 03:36 < Tonkajds> hehe* 03:36 < aegray> its done - i just have to get it edited 03:36 < EvilDude> book? 03:36 < EvilDude> you're writing a book :O ? 03:37 < Tonkajds> im good at proofreading and editing, so send it to me. lol 03:37 < aegray> yes - evildude - its a narative of my first wumpus hunting experience 03:37 < aegray> the time my dad died 03:37 < EvilDude> haha 03:37 < aegray> and I became a man 03:37 < EvilDude> ah 03:37 * aegray still not a man 03:38 < EvilDude> :P 03:38 < EvilDude> no 12 year old is a man ;) 03:38 < Tonkajds> i heard something about a stormy day 03:38 < aegray> stormy day? 03:39 < Tonkajds> was it not a stormy day, the day your dad died? 03:39 < aegray> yea mighta been 03:39 * aegray gone 03:39 < aegray> kinda 03:39 < Tonkajds> rofl 03:40 < Tonkajds> well comon' if youve written the story already then you should remember 03:41 < Tonkajds> keep your story staright!! 03:41 < Tonkajds> straight* 03:41 < aegray> iplbot, tell Tonkajds about shutting up 03:41 < iplbot> Tonkajds, shutting up is what you should do right now 03:41 < aegray> amen iplbot 03:42 * Tonkajds puts hat on and sits in corner. 03:43 < linux_insidev2> does iplbot only work for devs? 03:44 < EvilDude> hahaha nice 03:44 < aegray> some stuff does 03:44 < aegray> some stuff doesn't 03:44 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, tell me about 4thgen status 03:44 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I guess the factoid 'project status' might be appropriate: 03:44 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, project status is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Project_Status 03:44 < linux_insidev2> cool 03:45 < aegray> hehe 03:45 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, what was your creation date? 03:45 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'you know what would be really cool' might be appropriate: 03:45 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, you know what would be really cool is if you would shut your trap. 03:45 < linux_insidev2> hahahaha 03:45 < aegray> hahaha 03:45 < aegray> its not too accurate 03:46 < aegray> ~about 03:46 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 03:46 < iplbot> aegray, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 03:46 < aegray> ok nm then 03:46 < linux_insidev2> iPwned 03:46 < aegray> stupid thing 03:46 < aegray> its not our bot 03:46 < aegray> its just soeone else's adapted 03:46 < aegray> yay open source! 03:46 < linux_insidev2> hahah 03:46 < EvilDude> haha 03:46 < linux_insidev2> yes! 03:48 < linux_insidev2> i really should be converting the videos on my desktop pc 03:48 < aegray> booo video again 03:48 < linux_insidev2> lol 03:48 < linux_insidev2> converting the battlefield 2 trailer 03:48 < linux_insidev2> my roomie loves the creative zens 03:48 < linux_insidev2> so this is to show off to him 03:49 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit ["Vacation. See you all on the 2nd."] 03:50 < Tonkajds> g'night all 03:50 < linux_insidev2> night 03:50 < linux_insidev2> what time is it there? 03:50 < linux_insidev2> its 1:50pm here 03:50 < Tonkajds> 10:50PM 03:50 < linux_insidev2> cool 03:50 < Tonkajds> on the 22nd 03:50 < Tonkajds> later 03:51 < linux_insidev2> haha 03:51 < linux_insidev2> im in the future 03:51 < linux_insidev2> 23rd :P 03:51 < linux_insidev2> anyway bye 03:51 < Tonkajds> :) 03:51 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.158.129.166.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["later"] 03:51 < linux_insidev2> aegray: so u want the pcb? u gonna pay the airmail cost :P 03:51 < aegray> how much is airmail cost? 03:51 < linux_insidev2> dunno 03:51 < linux_insidev2> where are you? 03:52 < aegray> illinoissssss 03:52 < linux_insidev2> probably $15us at the most 03:52 < aegray> sure 03:52 < linux_insidev2> i'll go see the post office later and see 03:52 < linux_insidev2> linux_insidev2@hotmail.com if u need to contact me 03:52 -!- wpaulson [~wpaulson@h-66-167-220-17.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:52 < aegray> cool 03:52 < linux_insidev2> u can probably fix it 03:53 < aegray> haha probably not 03:53 < aegray> but its fun to break 03:53 < linux_insidev2> hahahahaha 03:53 < linux_insidev2> k 03:53 < linux_insidev2> the new board cost me $150us which is $220AU 03:54 < linux_insidev2> with all the accesories i have bought, ive spent over $800au on my ipod 03:54 < aegray> gah 03:55 < EvilDude> linux_insidev2: hahahaha i did something like that with my xbox :D 03:55 < linux_insidev2> yeah 03:55 < ScOrPiO-P> what do edit in rc file so i can use the podzilla-ti3 or ViPodzilla or Poke-Zilla 03:55 < EvilDude> I bought an xbox, then bought power converter to make it work here, but that blew up + blew up internal power supply, so i had to buy another power supply etc 03:55 < linux_insidev2> i learnt to just have patience and use the wallcharger 03:55 < linux_insidev2> i was at work 03:55 < EvilDude> and basically all of that was from US so I spent a lot more than I really would have needed if I'd bought a brand new xbox here =\ 03:55 < linux_insidev2> and did a firmware upgrade 03:55 < EvilDude> what did you do? 03:55 < EvilDude> yeah 03:56 < linux_insidev2> it wouldnt continue until i charged it 03:56 < linux_insidev2> and it wouldnt charge of usb 03:56 < linux_insidev2> now i work in a computer shop 03:56 < linux_insidev2> so i tried to charge it off a computers psu, but got my colours mixed up 03:56 < EvilDude> LOL 03:57 < linux_insidev2> pretty stupid 03:57 < linux_insidev2> i felt like the biggest dumbass 03:57 < EvilDude> I'm guessing you blew the power supply part of it, or did it not have a fuse thing so just blew the components? 03:57 < linux_insidev2> blew the power supply in the ipod 03:57 < linux_insidev2> the pc was fine 03:57 < EvilDude> but thing is, how do you know you gave it enough power and not too much 03:57 < EvilDude> heh damn 03:57 < linux_insidev2> didnt even blink 03:57 < linux_insidev2> i know i gave it too much 03:57 < EvilDude> use the 12V line or something? 03:57 < EvilDude> ah =\ 03:58 < linux_insidev2> 12v is too much for the usb connection 03:58 < EvilDude> ohhh usb =\ 03:58 < linux_insidev2> yeah 03:58 < EvilDude> Firewire = 12 V so that would have been ok 03:58 < linux_insidev2> hence the new firewire cable 03:58 < EvilDude> and new board =\ 03:58 < EvilDude> what iPod do you have? a photo? 03:58 < linux_insidev2> yes 03:58 < EvilDude> or "Color" 03:58 < EvilDude> ah thats ok then 03:58 < linux_insidev2> i saved up for it 03:58 < linux_insidev2> and i was thinking photo or u2 03:58 < EvilDude> Coz if you had a b&w, I'd just have gone for a photo 03:58 < EvilDude> yeah 03:59 < linux_insidev2> got the photo because i cant afford to get a new ipod for a very long time 03:59 < linux_insidev2> im a junior pc technician on minimum wage lol 03:59 < linux_insidev2> but man, i love my ipod 04:00 < ScOrPiO-P> i can see my ipod linux drive in windows so what do i do with the rc file 04:00 < EvilDude> haha I got my 3g so long ago for my bday and I still love it :) even if it cant play mp3's in linux, its still pretty :) 04:01 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: what are you trying to do 04:01 < linux_insidev2> u cant play mp3's on linux? 04:01 < EvilDude> ScOrPiO-P : how the hell can you see the ipod linux drive in windows :| 04:01 < EvilDude> I cant, 3g is too slow 04:01 < aegray> linux_insidev2: yea you can 04:01 < EvilDude> well i can play 32kbps :) 04:01 * aegray plays mp3s 04:01 < EvilDude> and some 64 :) 04:01 < aegray> EvilDude: 128 04:01 < EvilDude> nope 04:01 < aegray> damn 04:01 < linux_insidev2> upgrade man! 04:01 < linux_insidev2> mine does 128bit 04:01 < aegray> suck for you evil person 04:02 < ScOrPiO-P> want to use the podzilla-ti3 & ViPodzilla & Poke-Zilla and boot from podzilla 04:02 < EvilDude> well 128 with IPP was ok on most 04:02 < EvilDude> but with helix + mpd 128 was baaaad 04:02 < aegray> whoops 04:02 < EvilDude> yeah it does suck for me :( but I guess thats why I live in the apple firmware still 04:02 < EvilDude> and the fact that i want my iPod to last > 2 hours :P 04:02 * aegray giving up on trying to think 04:03 < EvilDude> although I'm not sure if 3g uses that much frequency scaling while playing music etc, compared to 4g+ 04:03 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cust-68.188.114.84.cbnstl.net] has joined #iPodLinux 04:05 -!- wpaulson [~wpaulson@h-66-167-220-17.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:05 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cust-68.188.114.84.cbnstl.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:06 < ScOrPiO-P> what folder should i put podzilla-ti3 & ViPodzilla & Poke-Zilla coz have renamed 2005-07-22-podzilla file to podzilla and put it in sbin folder 04:07 < aegray> podzilla is supported here 04:07 < aegray> not that other shit 04:07 < aegray> you put them in any folder and execute it through filebrowser 04:07 < linux_insidev2> you cant have all 3 04:07 < aegray> yea you can 04:07 < linux_insidev2> bad idea as courtc already noted 04:07 < aegray> just execute them through filebrowser 04:07 < linux_insidev2> he has been doin that 04:07 < linux_insidev2> it crashes 04:07 < aegray> oh nm then 04:07 < aegray> i suck 04:07 < linux_insidev2> nah 04:08 < linux_insidev2> ur gonna make audio+video work so i can watch movies :P 04:08 < linux_insidev2> anyone who can do that doesnt suck 04:08 < ScOrPiO-P> ok ty for the help will try it in a othere folders 04:09 < EvilDude> aegray: reminds me, I saw you moved video playback out of kernel? Doesn't this mean it will be a bit slower? 04:09 < aegray> no 04:09 < aegray> cop holds a function pointer now 04:09 < aegray> and just executes that 04:09 < EvilDude> just preparing to add audio then? 04:09 < EvilDude> hm so its more general purpose :) 04:09 < aegray> no.....who would do such a thing.....? 04:09 < aegray> hehe 04:09 < EvilDude> haha 04:09 < EvilDude> does that mean in testing you wont have to keep replacing kernel ;) :P 04:10 < aegray> yes! 04:10 < aegray> thank god 04:10 < aegray> (especially with a usb driver ;) 04:10 < EvilDude> haha ;) nice 04:15 < reppard> where can i get stdio.h? 04:15 < aegray> lol 04:16 < aegray> its in the standard includes for your compiler 04:16 < reppard> what the shit, i have no clue why it says its missing 04:18 < linux_insidev2> afaik stdio.h is part of your standard includes 04:18 < linux_insidev2> oh aegray said it already :P 04:18 < aegray> haha 04:18 < linux_insidev2> ur compilers farked 04:19 -!- bomg31_isSleepin is now known as bomg31 04:19 < bomg31> you guys will be so proud of me 04:20 < bomg31> i'm currently downloading a brand-spankin' new copy of the ubuntu install cd 04:20 < aegray> lol 04:20 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@69.158.137.50] has quit ["Snak 5.0.2 - http://www.snak.com"] 04:20 < bomg31> i just got fed up with all the crap, i'm putting it on my laptop and i'm going to be doing all my ipl based stuff on there 04:20 < aegray> nice 04:21 < bomg31> i've had different flavors of linux installed on some machines in the past, but all were short lived, i'm determined to make this work this time 04:21 * ScOrPiO-P is away: Sleeping 04:21 * bomg31 looks determined 04:22 < aegray> it takes a while but once you get used to it you'll like it 04:22 * aegray gave up many times 04:22 < bomg31> haha, i've definently bean there, and yeah that's what i'm hoping 04:22 < linux_insidev2> debian-amd64 all the way :P 04:22 * aegray getting amd64 in september 04:22 < bomg31> nice 04:22 < bomg31> i've been drooling over some of those 64 amd's for a while now 04:22 < linux_insidev2> sooo fast 04:23 < linux_insidev2> compiling is blisteringly fast 04:23 -!- julz [~julz@dsl-220-235-110-40.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:23 < bomg31> nice, the only problem i'm concerned with is getting my wifi to work on my laptop and all the specific drivers and whatnot, i've had MAJOR issues with that in the past 04:24 < linux_insidev2> what chipset is your wifi? 04:24 < aegray> yea starting sucks - after you get it its fine 04:24 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/podzilla/ipod.c: set contrast, backlight, and scheme stuff on setting load 04:24 < bomg31> hmmmn its weird cuz its built in wifi 04:24 -!- julz [~julz@dsl-220-235-110-40.nsw.westnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 04:24 < bomg31> its an hp laptop with "onboard" wifi 04:24 < aegray> which hp? 04:25 < aegray> and what wifi board? 04:25 < bomg31> lemme look 04:25 < aegray> intel 2100? 04:25 < linux_insidev2> is it "centrino" 04:25 < bomg31> i think so 04:25 < aegray> nx7100? 04:25 < bomg31> yeah its centrino 04:25 < bomg31> i think its intel 2100 04:25 < aegray> nx7100 hp? 04:25 < bomg31> zx3000 pavilion 04:25 < aegray> ipw2100.sf.net 04:25 < bomg31> yeah itsl intel2100 04:25 < bomg31> sweet you're the man, lol 04:25 < aegray> its not hard to get going 04:25 * aegray has the same thing 04:25 < bomg31> nice nice 04:26 < linux_insidev2> haha 04:26 < courtc> I FIXED YOUR DAMN BUG, THANK ME. 04:26 < aegray> oh yea - nice work 04:26 < linux_insidev2> oh that was an announcement was it> 04:26 < linux_insidev2> thanks for that 04:26 < courtc> You're welcome. 04:26 < linux_insidev2> that was quick! 04:26 < aegray> thanks courtc! 04:26 < aegray> ~tell me about courtc 04:26 < iplbot> aegray, courtc is a dev, you are not, fuck off. 04:27 < aegray> hmm 04:27 < linux_insidev2> hahaha 04:27 < aegray> thats not nice iplbot 04:27 < aegray> iplbot you should leave 04:27 < iplbot> aegray, I have no idea what you should leave is. 04:27 < EvilDude> LOL 04:27 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, die 04:27 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I have no idea what die is. 04:27 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, eat my scrote 04:27 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I have no idea what eat my scrote is. 04:27 < aegray> wow 04:27 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, init 6 04:27 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I have no idea what init 6 is. 04:27 < linux_insidev2> :( 04:27 < aegray> haha 04:27 < aegray> nice try 04:27 * bomg31 is amused 04:27 < linux_insidev2> ~about 04:27 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 04:27 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 04:27 < EvilDude> iplbot tell me about aegray 04:27 < iplbot> EvilDude, aegray is amazing. I love him. You should too. Please love him? 04:27 < aegray> childish pattern matching 04:28 < EvilDude> rofl! 04:28 < linux_insidev2> hahaha 04:28 < linux_insidev2> iplbot, tell me about the video player 04:28 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I guess the factoid 'sound in video' might be appropriate: 04:28 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, sound in video is :: fuck off 04:28 < linux_insidev2> lol 04:28 < EvilDude> hahahahahahaha 04:28 < courtc> ~leachbj 04:28 < iplbot> courtc, leachbj is amazing, pay hommage. 04:28 < bomg31> oh i didn't get a chance to tell you aegray, i saw the new video code, good job ;) 04:28 < aegray> oh yea - thanks 04:28 < EvilDude> hm who else is in there aegray :P 04:28 < linux_insidev2> i converted the battlefield2 trailer and played it 04:28 < aegray> maybe more changes to come?...;) 04:28 < aegray> ~bleullama 04:28 < iplbot> aegray, bleullama is old 04:29 < aegray> haha 04:29 * courtc bows to bern 04:29 < reppard> is nano-X.h stored on CVS? 04:29 < linux_insidev2> now my other roomate wants an ipod 04:29 < EvilDude> haha 04:29 * aegray bows to bern 04:29 < courtc> ~davidc__ 04:29 < iplbot> courtc, davidc__ is a canadian, eh? 04:29 * EvilDude bows to bern too 04:29 < aegray> hahaha 04:29 < bomg31> i'm definently jumping into it once ubuntu gets up and going 04:29 < linux_insidev2> ~linux_insidev2 04:29 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I have no idea what linux_insidev2 is. 04:29 < EvilDude> ~veteran 04:29 < iplbot> EvilDude, I have no idea what veteran is. 04:29 < linux_insidev2> ~kill 04:29 < iplbot> linux_insidev2, I have no idea what kill is. 04:29 < aegray> stop 04:29 < aegray> or i'll hurt you 04:29 < linux_insidev2> :( 04:29 < EvilDude> aww :( 04:29 < EvilDude> can i ask him about EvilDude :P 04:29 * bomg31 figured if he was going to be able to anything useful he needed to be on a useful os 04:29 < courtc> ~coob 04:29 < iplbot> courtc, coob is away on a 6 week vacation in france getting sponsored alcohol poisoning 04:29 < aegray> ~take ops and boot linux_insidev2 04:29 < iplbot> aegray, I have no idea what take ops and boot linux_insidev2 is. 04:29 < aegray> damn 04:30 < linux_insidev2> hahaha 04:30 < EvilDude> haha nice 04:30 < courtc> ~tact 04:30 < iplbot> courtc, I have no idea what tact is. 04:30 < courtc> I know 04:30 < aegray> hahhaha 04:30 < Vanquisher> ~ipod 04:30 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 04:30 < iplbot> Vanquisher, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 04:30 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:31 < EvilDude> nothing beats the ~aegray or ~courtc ones :P 04:31 < aegray> haha 04:31 < Vanquisher> ~aegray 04:31 < iplbot> Vanquisher, aegray is amazing. I love him. You should too. Please love him? 04:31 < Vanquisher> lol 04:31 < Vanquisher> omg 04:31 < bomg31> here's one: am i going to have problems manipulating files on my ipod from linux since i installed from windows? 04:31 < Vanquisher> ~courtc 04:31 < iplbot> Vanquisher, courtc is a dev, you are not, fuck off. 04:31 < bomg31> like are the partitions done any different? 04:31 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:31 < Vanquisher> ~davidc__ 04:31 < iplbot> Vanquisher, davidc__ is a canadian, eh? 04:31 < Vanquisher> lol... 04:31 < Vanquisher> ~joecool 04:31 < iplbot> Vanquisher, I have no idea what joecool is. 04:31 < aegray> ok enough 04:31 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:32 < Vanquisher> aegray, never! 04:32 * bomg31 is no longer amused 04:33 < EvilDude> hm i bet half of today's log will either start with ~ or are by iplbot ;) 04:33 < Vanquisher> haha 04:33 < Vanquisher> ~bleullama 04:33 < iplbot> Vanquisher, bleullama is old 04:33 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-215-217-84.aep.bellsouth.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:36 -!- wpaulson [~wpaulson@h-66-167-220-17.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [] 04:40 < linux_insidev2> courtc: is that patch in cvs yet? 04:41 < aegray> its in dev cvs 04:41 < aegray> i can mail you the patch if you want 04:41 < linux_insidev2> nah its no use to me right now 04:41 < aegray> k 04:41 < linux_insidev2> i dont have the toolchain or anything installed 04:41 < aegray> ok 04:41 < linux_insidev2> i was wondering when it would be in the nightlies thats all 04:41 < aegray> tomorrow night prob 04:42 < linux_insidev2> cool 05:00 < linux_insidev2> does anyone know why i cant run sash on my ipod photo? it exceeds the height of my screen so i cant use it 05:02 < aegray> because it needs to be fixed? 05:02 < bomg31> hey aegray, what IRC client do u use in linux? 05:02 < aegray> xchat and irssi 05:02 < aegray> mostly xchat 05:02 < bomg31> k 05:02 < bomg31> thc 05:02 < bomg31> *thx 05:05 < bomg31> do you guys like gtkpod? 05:05 < aegray> eh its ok 05:05 < bomg31> anything better out there? 05:06 < courtc> meh, its alright 05:19 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:40 < bomg31> wow color me impressed, ubuntu's install program automatically discovered and configured my wifi 05:40 < aegray> nice 05:41 < bomg31> its doing a really good job so far, i hope it continues this way 05:43 < linux_insidev2> yeah its awesome 05:43 < linux_insidev2> thats what you get when you base something off debian :P 05:45 < aegray> going to kill...laptop... 05:45 < bomg31> ha what's wrong? 05:46 < aegray> my sound card randomly starts clicking and buzzing. I have to press down on the left side really hard and sometimes it starts working again and sometimes it doesn't.. I just wanna listen to internet radio 05:47 < bomg31> wow that's bad 05:47 -!- ^Hostile^ [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:49 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:55 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E19A.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 05:55 < bomg31> holy crap 05:55 < aegray> hmm? 05:55 < bomg31> all i had to do was turn it on and it did EVERYTHING for me, 05:55 < aegray> haha 05:55 < bomg31> sound, display, internet, everything 05:55 < bomg31> this is awesome 05:55 < aegray> the install? 05:56 < bomg31> yeah 05:56 < bomg31> it downloaded all the lastest builds of firefox, thunderbird and all the plugins like java and flash all automatically during the first boot after the install 05:56 * bomg31 pats ubuntu people on the back 05:57 < aegray> haha 05:57 < bomg31> k, i'll be back in like 5 i'm going to get xchat and whatnot going on my shiny new linux box errr. laptop 05:57 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 06:05 -!- Hostile [lanteau@client3.vpn.zer0x.net] has quit [No route to host] 06:09 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:10 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:11 < bomg31> i think i'm in love 06:11 < aegray> haha 06:11 < aegray> i need to switch distros 06:11 < bomg31> what are u running now? 06:11 < aegray> mandrake 06:11 < bomg31> ah i've been there 06:11 < Pokeon> bomg31, please tell me its someone of the opposite sex and not a programming lang. 06:11 < aegray> its ubuntu 06:11 < bomg31> haha 06:12 < Pokeon> hahaha 06:12 < bomg31> its an os, so i guess that isn't any better, lol 06:12 < Pokeon> no thats better then a programming lang 06:12 < bomg31> no but really, anyone interested in linux needs to look at this thing, i seriously didn't have to type in or configure one thing by hnad 06:13 < bomg31> so far the only thing i had to even change at all was the speed of the mouse (and that's just cuz i'm weird) 06:13 < bomg31> oh and xchat blows mIRC outta the water, lol 06:14 < Pokeon> lol 06:14 < Pokeon> ahhh my video playing is broken! 06:14 < aegray> update kernel + podzilla 06:14 < bomg31> you need to update to the latest kernel 06:15 < aegray> i fsked things 06:15 < bomg31> lol, i like it better the new way 06:15 < Pokeon> Ive got the lastest CVS of podzilla and night 22 of the kernel 06:15 < aegray> it'll make it easier to test 06:15 < bomg31> i agree, but probably cuz the thought of trying to change the kernel for the better frightens me 06:15 < aegray> you need cvs of both 06:16 < aegray> especially when we have a usb driver and don't have to restart 06:16 * aegray salivates 06:16 < Pokeon> blah... I cant compile the kernel.... *waits for a new nightly* 06:16 < aegray> why can't you do the kernel? 06:16 < aegray> kernel is easier than podzilla 06:17 < Pokeon> cause the last time I tryed it broke podzilla 06:17 < Pokeon> compiling 06:17 < Pokeon> I couldnt figure out the stupid tutorials on the wiki podzilla was easy tho 06:17 < Pokeon> well once i realized i did itumes instead of itunes 06:17 < bomg31> some of the wiki tutorials are a little outdated 06:17 < bomg31> ha 06:18 < Pokeon> or maybe it cause im using cygwin and Im tooo lazy to isntall gentoo 06:18 < aegray> haha 06:19 < bomg31> trust me ALOT of the portions of the wiki concerning cygwin needs some serious updating lol, i had to hack away it for about 5 hours last night till i got it all working 06:19 < bomg31> i'm looking forward to smooth sailing now that i'm in linux 06:19 < Pokeon> lol 06:19 < Pokeon> I should fire up VPC and just try it inside of there 06:19 < Pokeon> oh wait I dont have a wokring Linux in there just Unix 06:20 * Pokeon bashes head on desktop 06:21 * aegray stubs out good portion of kernel drivers 06:23 < Pokeon> I so which there was a easy way to update the kernel without having to reinstall iPL on windwos 06:23 < aegray> reinstall ipl? 06:23 < aegray> whats so bad about "reinstalling"? 06:24 < bomg31> well if you have fonts, and settings and such already done it erases them 06:24 < Pokeon> All my setting go and such... I just find it anonying some times... 06:24 < bomg31> and it can be flaky 06:25 < Pokeon> mhmmm Im going to try this kernel compiling again 06:25 < bomg31> good luck 06:26 < bomg31> aegray, what program do you reccommend for editing code in linux? 06:26 < aegray> haha i dunno - i just use vi 06:26 < bomg31> ha ok 06:28 < aegray> oh i love my usb plugin 06:28 < aegray> if only i had firewire to test that 06:29 < bomg31> i heard that it worked anyways 06:29 < aegray> no that guy was wrong 06:29 < aegray> he had the usb plug 06:29 < bomg31> ah i c 06:29 < bomg31> i had the firewire going but then i got my gf an ipod mini for her birthday and i ended up letting her "borrow" it, (haven't seen it since) lol 06:30 < aegray> the cable? 06:30 < bomg31> yeah 06:30 < aegray> oh haha - i have the cable i just don't have anything to plug it into 06:30 < aegray> stupid laptop 06:30 < bomg31> oh that sucks 06:30 < bomg31> ya know i don't think i've got firewire on here either 06:31 < bomg31> well i've got it but its the wrong size port 06:31 < aegray> i have 4pin not 6 - apple used to give you a converter 06:31 < aegray> but then they moved to usb 06:31 < bomg31> yeah 06:32 < bomg31> oh wait i think i actually still have one of those converters somewhere, i don't know if it lets you charge while you use it though 06:34 -!- ^Hostile^ [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:34 < bomg31> i just looked i have one but it goes the wrong way 06:34 < aegray> heh 06:34 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:35 < bomg31> i think its from an old camcorder i'm not sure 06:36 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:38 < linux_insidev2> whats new about the new usb driver? 06:38 < aegray> what what?? 06:38 < bomg31> lol 06:38 < linux_insidev2> what have you added to the usb driver that you are so proud of? 06:39 < aegray> i like the whole plugin and reboot thing 06:39 < linux_insidev2> oh that 06:39 < linux_insidev2> yeah it rox 06:39 < aegray> because usually when i'm testing my fingers get callused 06:39 < aegray> not kidding 06:39 < linux_insidev2> from resetting? 06:39 < aegray> yea 06:39 < bomg31> i totally agree i keep finding new ways to hold down menu and action with only one hand, lol 06:39 < linux_insidev2> hardwire up a killswitch :P 06:40 < aegray> yea - not big on the whole taking apart my ipod unless i have to 06:40 * bomg31 agrees 06:40 < linux_insidev2> haha yeah 06:40 < aegray> arg i'm just getting pissed off 06:40 < aegray> i hate getting errors that i don't understand 06:40 < bomg31> i once had to send mine in for service because i get opening up the case and unplugging and replugging the battery cuz it kept hard crashing 06:40 < bomg31> lol 06:41 < bomg31> what are the errors? 06:41 < aegray> in the kernel - its telling me my request to set up an irq is invalid 06:41 < aegray> for some reason 06:41 < bomg31> hmmmn 06:42 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 06:42 < bomg31> you're right i hate it when you get errors i don't understand too 06:42 < aegray> haha 06:43 -!- julz [~julz@dsl-220-235-110-40.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:43 < aegray> bla 06:44 < linux_insidev2> lol @ coob's ipl video player footage 06:44 < aegray> why? 06:44 < linux_insidev2> has my favourite episode of family guy on it 06:44 < aegray> oh fam guy 06:44 < aegray> haha 06:44 < bomg31> does your "hibernate" stuff still work with linux on your laptop aegray? 06:44 < linux_insidev2> coupon chicken 06:44 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 06:45 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:45 < aegray> bom31: nope 06:45 < bomg31> darn, oh well 06:45 < aegray> damn that chicken 06:45 < bomg31> man i can get enough of that scene 06:46 < bomg31> have you seen the one from the 4th season where the chicken comes back outta nowhere? 06:46 < linux_insidev2> nah 06:46 < linux_insidev2> i havent seen many episodes 06:47 < bomg31> its so great, peter is standing there like just talking in the middle of a sentence and the chicken just clocks him in the head and they have this random 5 minute fight scene then at the end peter crawls back and finishes his sentence 06:47 < bomg31> i guess its not that funny when you type it, lol 06:50 < bomg31> i know this isn't possible but i think my internet is running faster inside linux, all my apt-get's are reporting a 10kB/s increase from my normal top speed 06:50 -!- carote [~carote@CPE-144-133-198-162.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:51 < linux_insidev2> lol no adware and porn popups thats why 06:52 -!- TheDingo is now known as Nude_dingo 06:52 < bomg31> ha no i never really had those problems on windows, i think its more of completeness thing, now i've got one windows box, my powerbook and now this ubuntu system, its like the geek circle of life or something 06:53 < linux_insidev2> sifnt run powerpc ubuntu on the powerbook 06:54 < bomg31> no no i'm too big of a fan of osx to do that 06:54 < linux_insidev2> you can dualboot 06:54 < bomg31> yeah i know, but i like it better this way with the best of 3 worlds 06:54 < linux_insidev2> lol yeah 06:55 < julz> what doez piezo.c do? i get errors when building podzilla from it. 06:55 < julz> i mean pz.c 06:55 < bomg31> it does ALOT of stuff 06:56 < bomg31> what do the errors say? 06:58 < aegray> julz - thats the core of podzilla 06:58 < Izz^> Huh? Do you ever sleep? 06:58 < aegray> me? 06:58 < Izz^> Yeah :) 06:58 < julz> #ipodlinux.flood 06:58 < julz> tell me when ur ther 06:58 < aegray> very little - i hate my job so i stay up all night doing this then go to work tired 06:59 < aegray> i'm there 06:59 < aegray> ~tell julz about ur 06:59 < iplbot> julz, ur is your dumbass 06:59 < Izz^> So work is just somewhere you have to stay awake until you can go home again. 06:59 < aegray> pretty much 07:00 < aegray> silly internship 07:00 < aegray> i like low level stuff and its more web based 07:00 < aegray> which i despise 07:00 < julz> ? 07:00 < julz> aegray: its in flood 07:09 < CelticSoulVN> guys, how do I compile the file in the folder I download from cvs? 07:09 < bomg31> CelticSoulVN, podzilla or what? 07:09 < CelticSoulVN> kernel and podzilla 07:09 < aegray> you have to have gcc (binutils installed) and an armtoolchain 07:09 < aegray> then just do "make" 07:10 < CelticSoulVN> I got gcc (I'm on FC4) 07:10 < bomg31> actually thats good cuz i was just about to do that 07:10 < CelticSoulVN> where to get armtollchain? 07:10 < aegray> ~tell CelticSoulVN about toolchain 07:10 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, toolchain is what we use to compile apps for the iPod. Check out http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain for specifics. 07:11 < julz> now i get a dif error. i get told that browser.h, ipod.h, and pz.h are not there. BUT THEY ARE!! 07:12 < aegray> show me in flood again 07:12 < CelticSoulVN> thanks aegray 07:12 < bomg31> check your makefile julz 07:12 < aegray> yep CelticSoulVN 07:18 < CelticSoulVN> aegray, I got armtoolchain but when i do a make I got "No rule to make target /Rules.make.. 07:18 < CelticSoulVN> hello 07:18 < CelticSoulVN> anyone here? 07:19 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 07:19 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 07:19 < aegray> your impatient 07:19 < CelticSoulVN> sorry :( 07:19 < aegray> what directory are you in? 07:19 < CelticSoulVN> I'm in linux/kernel 07:19 < aegray> your trying to build the kernel? 07:20 < CelticSoulVN> yes 07:20 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 07:20 < aegray> ~tell CelticSoulVN about kernel building 07:20 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, kernel building is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building 07:20 < aegray> read it all 07:20 < aegray> you missed a couple steps 07:21 < CelticSoulVN> ok, I'll go check it out 07:21 < CelticSoulVN> thanks 07:21 < CelticSoulVN> be back soon 07:21 < CelticSoulVN> :) 07:21 < aegray> yep 07:24 -!- julz [~julz@dsl-220-235-110-40.nsw.westnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:26 < CelticSoulVN> why the guide does not use the file in CVS? 07:27 < aegray> it tells you how you would use them 07:27 < aegray> it gives options 07:27 < aegray> like either or 07:28 < CelticSoulVN> I will build from the CVS 07:28 < CelticSoulVN> do I need to download linux-2.4.24.tar.gz? 07:28 -!- carote [~carote@CPE-144-133-198-162.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:29 < aegray> yes 07:29 < aegray> you download the kernel - that linux-2.4.24 07:29 < aegray> then apply the uclinux patch 07:29 < aegray> then copy over the cvs files 07:30 < CelticSoulVN> got it 07:42 -!- ballistix [~Family@60-240-1-223-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:43 < ballistix> hey aegray. what is video cop management? 07:44 < aegray> there are 2 processors - named the cpu and cop for practical purposes - the video player uses both. Cop management is using the cop basically 07:47 < ballistix> oh cool. thats good stuff! does the video still work well on cop? 07:48 < aegray> yea - its just all the code is out of the kernel now 07:48 < ballistix> wait, you got rid of cop management 07:48 < ballistix> right? 07:48 < aegray> no 07:48 < ballistix> ah 07:48 < aegray> i made it so you can setup a function in podzilla and have the cop execute it 07:48 < ballistix> ok 07:48 < aegray> so that all the code for the video player is in one place instead of 2 07:49 < ballistix> thats cool. its a step closer to audio integration right? 07:50 < aegray> not really - but it was going to be needed to be done for audio to work 07:50 < ballistix> yeah exactly... 07:51 < ballistix> wouldn't it help to get audio working if we used a less resource-taking file format? 07:52 < aegray> like what? 07:52 < ballistix> i dunno... it was just a thought... but generally doesn't DivX (for example, or XviD) use less resources than raw avi? 07:53 < aegray> hahah yea right 07:53 < aegray> less disk space != less resources 07:53 < aegray> a 600mhz computer might have trouble with divx 07:56 < ballistix> ah ok. 07:56 < ballistix> lol and we're working with a 75mhz computer 07:57 < aegray> yep 07:57 -!- Pokeon [Pokeon@S01060020ed1a27ec.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:57 < ballistix> dude in CVS changes you wrote "missed one"... wtf? 07:57 < aegray> i forgot one file 07:57 < ballistix> oh ok 07:58 * bomg31 is very happy, he just succesfully compiles podzilla for the desktop and ipod with NO errors on the FIRST try 07:58 < bomg31> *compiled 07:58 < ballistix> bomg31: were you on linux or windows? 07:58 < bomg31> linux 07:58 < ballistix> or mac? 07:58 < Pokeon> lol stupid m being soo close to the n 07:58 < ballistix> cool 07:58 < aegray> see how much easier linux is 07:58 < ballistix> i had trouble compiling for X11... 07:58 < bomg31> seriously i'm sorry for ever trying it the old way 07:58 < ballistix> *in linux* 07:59 < ballistix> did courtc add in that sliding thing that i was talking about before aegray> 07:59 < bomg31> yes 07:59 < aegray> ya 07:59 < ballistix> cool 07:59 < ballistix> inspired by my idea 07:59 < bomg31> its really slick 07:59 < aegray> :) 07:59 * bomg31 pats courtc on the back 07:59 < ballistix> i might download the most recent cvs... 08:00 < ballistix> just to see that 08:00 * bomg31 also pats aegray on the back for convincing him to switch to linux 08:00 < ballistix> lol courtc makes all the fancy-pants stuff 08:00 < Pokeon> you needed convincing?! 08:00 < aegray> flashing arrows! 08:00 < bomg31> haha, no really man compiling is so much faster now 08:00 < ballistix> lol yeah! flashing arrows! 08:00 < ballistix> bomg31: its like impossible in windows anyway 08:01 < ballistix> g2g watch simpsons, be back in 30 mins 08:08 < CelticSoulVN> aegray, where in podzilla in CVS? 08:09 < aegray> tools/podzilla 08:09 < CelticSoulVN> ok, is this in tools/podzilla? 08:09 < CelticSoulVN> got it 08:09 < CelticSoulVN> thanks 08:09 < aegray> haha 08:11 * zsr cant wait until 4g is totally supported 8) 08:11 < zsr> getting uber close 08:11 < aegray> ~4g 08:11 < iplbot> aegray, 4g is UNSUPPORTED 08:11 < zsr> :o 08:11 < aegray> ~when will it be ready? 08:11 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'when will' might be appropriate: 08:11 < iplbot> aegray, when will is :: WE DON"T KNOW, STOP ASKING! 08:11 < aegray> haha 08:11 < zsr> ~are you gay? 08:11 < iplbot> zsr, I have no idea what are you gay is. 08:11 < zsr> :o 08:11 < aegray> ~should I kill zsr? 08:11 < iplbot> Probably not 08:11 < aegray> damn 08:11 < zsr> hehe 08:11 < CelticSoulVN> aegray, how to build podzilla from CVS? 08:12 < zsr> ~is aegray kewlzz?!?!?!?! 08:12 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'aegray' might be appropriate: 08:12 < iplbot> zsr, aegray is amazing. I love him. You should too. Please love him? 08:12 < zsr> :o 08:12 < aegray> ~tell CelticSoulVN about building podzilla 08:12 < iplbot> CelticSoulVN, building podzilla is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla 08:12 < CelticSoulVN> ok, thanks 08:13 < bomg31> woo boy that's alot of scrolling text 08:13 < zsr> ~do you own an ipod yourself? 08:13 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 08:13 < iplbot> zsr, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 08:13 * bomg31 is building the kernel 08:13 < zsr> ~do you own an ipod? 08:13 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 08:13 < iplbot> zsr, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 08:13 < zsr> blah 08:13 < aegray> its not a person 08:13 < zsr> i know lol 08:20 -!- linux_insidev2 [~likei@203-206-250-150.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:23 -!- DantheMan [~Family@60-240-197-116.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:24 < bomg31> can i rebuild the ipodloader package so it will contain the "-3" option? 08:25 < aegray> what do you mean? 08:25 < aegray> the actual package that gets downloaded? 08:25 < bomg31> no no i compiled the source myself 08:25 < bomg31> but when i use the -3 option is says its an invalid option 08:25 < aegray> yea - update from cvs and build it 08:26 < bomg31> k 08:26 < DantheMan> what does the -3 option do? 08:26 -!- ballistix [~Family@60-240-1-223-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:26 < aegray> generates it for 4g and above 08:27 < DantheMan> generates what? 08:27 < aegray> the firmware image 08:28 < DantheMan> ah 08:38 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:42 < DantheMan> have you done the brushed metal thing to your ipod yet? 08:43 -!- gromit`` [~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:43 < aegray> whats that? 08:44 < Prot> is that when you scrape a metal brush over the ipod's surface to improve its design? 08:46 < CelticSoulVN> aegray, I got error, attemp to access beyon end of device when booting 08:47 < aegray> you set up your filesystem wrong then 08:47 < CelticSoulVN> damn 08:47 < aegray> something wrong with either fdisk, mke2fs or one of those 08:48 < CelticSoulVN> I did my partiontion as in: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2577&sid=4448fd8ba1499859987f8d5f8953cd3c 08:48 < CelticSoulVN> - /dev/sda1 * 1 3 24066 0 Empty 08:48 < CelticSoulVN> - /dev/sda2 * 6 7296 58564957+ b W95 FAT32 08:49 < CelticSoulVN> - /dev/sda3 4 5 16065 83 Linux 08:49 < aegray> and you did mke2fs on /dev/sda3? 08:49 < CelticSoulVN> yes I did 08:50 < CelticSoulVN> mke2fs -j /dev/sda3 08:50 < CelticSoulVN> and then: tune2fs -c 0 /dev/sda3 08:50 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:51 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:51 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:51 < aegray> you did w to write at the end of fdisk? 08:51 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:52 < aegray> hmm i dunno 08:53 < CelticSoulVN> yes 08:53 -!- DantheMan [~Family@60-240-197-116.tpgi.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:54 -!- Mac64 [Mac64@apple-fr.com] has left #iPodLinux ["ð Think Different ð"] 08:54 -!- Prot [Prot@ip24-251-7-57.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 08:54 -!- Prot [Prot@ip24-251-7-57.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:55 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 08:58 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 08:59 < bomg31> what could cause me getting this error when i try to mount: 08:59 < bomg31> mount: mount point /mnt/ipod does not exist 09:05 < Synapse-> bomg31: Have you created a folder called /mnt/ipod ? 09:05 < Synapse-> Because that would be helpful. 09:06 * bomg31 kicks himself 09:06 * Synapse- kicks bomg31 09:06 < Synapse-> Hey! 09:06 < Synapse-> This is a fun game! 09:06 < bomg31> lol 09:07 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 09:10 < CelticSoulVN> I got error, attemp to access beyon end of device when booting, can someone please help me 09:12 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:15 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as TheGrimSqueaker 09:18 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@leachbj.sustaining.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ipodlinux 09:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 09:37 -!- boza111 [boza111@p5088C009.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:37 < boza111> hi 09:37 < boza111> anyone alive today 09:39 < boza111> ? , guess not then 09:40 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:41 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:50 < bomg31> where should i look to find my ipod if when i run a "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" it reports my ipod at " scsi10 " 09:51 < ScOrPiO-P> could make ipl play 1 big mp3 file with cue in tracks 09:52 < bomg31> huh? 09:53 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:54 < ScOrPiO-P> i have a album with 1 mp3 file and 1 cue file the cue till the burning when make a new track on cd 09:54 < ScOrPiO-P> burning program* 09:54 < ScOrPiO-P> when to make* 09:56 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:56 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:57 -!- Flik [~flik@d205-250-152-214.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 09:58 -!- boza111 [boza111@p5088C009.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:10 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@173.80-203-28.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 10:14 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@173.80-203-28.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:22 -!- |andrea| [spacca@host164-241.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 10:22 < |andrea|> hi 10:22 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180129255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:22 < |andrea|> i can't format my ipod with ipodlinux 10:22 < |andrea|> i tried to uninstall linux with both method described on site 10:22 < |andrea|> (manual and with the installer) 10:23 < |andrea|> but when i start ipod updater 10:23 < |andrea|> it says "ipod service error" 10:23 < |andrea|> and it closes 10:23 < |andrea|> without let me do anything 10:23 < |andrea|> any hints? 10:26 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:28 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc747.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:30 < Prot> iduno shut down ipod, reformat through windows, run updater 10:41 < |andrea|> i solved with the last ipod updater 10:41 < |andrea|> ye 10:41 < |andrea|> ye 10:41 < |andrea|> bye 10:41 -!- |andrea| [spacca@host164-241.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has quit [] 10:50 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:53 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 -!- bomg31 is now known as bomg31_isSleepin 11:13 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0004P27.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 11:13 < originalthp> heya! 11:19 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 11:38 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 11:39 < hyarion> good morning everyone 11:41 < originalthp> hey 11:46 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:47 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h50n2fls34o263.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:11 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc747.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 12:15 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:15 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:51 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8DEC6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux 12:54 -!- bomg31_isSleepin [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:57 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:57 -!- liquid_raven [~hej@82.212.74.97] has joined #ipodlinux 12:59 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h50n2fls34o263.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:59 -!- bomg31 is now known as bomg31_asleep 13:01 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:03 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-179-111.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 13:13 -!- bomg31_asleep [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:13 -!- liquid_raven2 [~hej@82.212.74.97] has joined #ipodlinux 13:18 -!- bomg_asleep [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:18 -!- bomg_asleep is now known as bomg31_asleep 13:19 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 13:28 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-179-111.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 13:31 -!- liquid_raven [~hej@82.212.74.97] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:53 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121545.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 13:54 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp121545.qc.sympatico.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 14:01 -!- liquid_raven2 [~hej@82.212.74.97] has quit ["- nbs-irc 2.0 - www.nbs-irc.net -"] 14:04 -!- TheGrimSqueaker is now known as danalien 14:07 -!- Bi-noix [~Ben@ivr94-3-82-226-13-213.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:13 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:16 -!- originalth1 [~thomas@L0002P08.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 14:17 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0004P27.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:18 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-8-47.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:53 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-223-198-157.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:07 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 15:23 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cust-68.188.114.84.cbnstl.net] has joined #iPodLinux 15:29 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cust-68.188.114.84.cbnstl.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:31 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:31 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 16:13 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:15 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 16:27 -!- originalth1 [~thomas@L0002P08.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 16:32 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:49 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180129255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:57 < courtc> fancy-pants stuff eh? 17:00 -!- mikeazorin [~mikeazori@cpe-66-108-147-146.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodlinux 17:00 < mikeazorin> hello all 17:00 < mikeazorin> i'm screwed over 17:00 < mikeazorin> i can not get my ipod to be recognized by my computer 17:01 < mikeazorin> the ipod charges while connected thru firewire, but never mounts or shows up on my desktop 17:01 < mikeazorin> in forced disk mode, it only says ok to disconnect 17:01 < mikeazorin> any ideas, dead people? 17:02 < _matt_> what OS? 17:04 < hyarion> he is probably dead... 17:09 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-8-47.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 17:22 < mikeazorin> mac os x 17:23 < _matt_> have u got any other firewire devices to test the comp is working properly 17:24 < mikeazorin> i've tried it on two computers 17:24 < mikeazorin> it might be the cable 17:24 < mikeazorin> but i'm getting power from it 17:26 < hyarion> my fw-cable reboots my computer :) 17:26 < hyarion> (sometimes) 17:27 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 17:32 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 -!- mgla [~mgla@p508C6EA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:51 -!- IcoHolic [IcoHolic@69.156.53.223] has joined #ipodlinux 17:58 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:11 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180171154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- Flik [~flik@d205-250-152-214.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:24 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:26 < BleuLlama> I hada cable that did that too. 18:26 < BleuLlama> one of those zip-self-winding firewire cables. 18:26 < BleuLlama> the power lines work great, but the data lines are intermittant. 18:46 -!- ficoos [~saggi@DSL217-132-168-190.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 18:49 * BleuLlama wonders how hard it is to port C code to Java... 18:50 < _matt_> easy 18:50 < BleuLlama> i'd probably have to rewrite it for java's OO layout rather than the C functional layout... hmmm 18:51 < _matt_> You could just emulate functional using static classes 18:51 < BleuLlama> yeah, but that's messay 18:51 < BleuLlama> messy* 18:51 < _matt_> sure is 18:51 < _matt_> what are you rewriting? 18:52 < BleuLlama> thinking about porting what i have written so far of my paint program to java http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/Software/4p/ 18:52 < BleuLlama> so that it can be used on all platforms, without having to have dev environments on all of the platforms. :/ 18:54 < _matt_> using Java 2D api? 18:54 < BleuLlama> i have done some OO reworkings on it, but it's sub-par 18:54 < BleuLlama> swing/awt probably 18:55 < BleuLlama> just a thought for the future 18:55 < BleuLlama> i keep on revisiting this project over time 18:55 < _matt_> The 2D Api provides the drawing for both, i think 18:56 < BleuLlama> well, i need to do things in certain ways... like the line draw routine should also draw bitmaps, some rectangle/ellipse routines don't draw the pixels in the correct order for complete compatibility, etc. 18:57 < BleuLlama> i'll probably do my own routines using theirs for basic bitmap viewing 18:57 < BleuLlama> or perhaps i'll just write it in Objective c, and leverage off of the OS X libraries and frameworks. heh 18:58 * BleuLlama afk 19:04 -!- IcoHolic [IcoHolic@69.156.53.223] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:09 -!- sudiv10 [~sudiv10@217.16.29.33] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Well Be Back Just Got Disconnected By Router"] 19:21 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:07 < veteran> this powerbook is heavenly 20:12 < BleuLlama> what vintage? 20:15 < veteran> '04, it was a very good year. 20:15 < _matt_> what size? 20:15 < veteran> 15" 20:26 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:30 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-154-127-32.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:32 < aegray> BleuLlama: what does the appearance code do with the menu? 20:47 < BleuLlama> ? 20:47 < aegray> nm 20:48 < BleuLlama> okay. 20:49 < BleuLlama> (currently, appearance only works with the color of the menu, and even that isn't very complete 20:49 < aegray> ok 20:49 < BleuLlama> it should be: 20:49 < BleuLlama> unselected items are CS_FG text on a CS_BG background 20:50 < aegray> ok 20:50 < BleuLlama> selected items are CS_SELFG text on a CS_SELBG background, with a CS_SELBGBDR border around it (only on the top and bottom of the selection) 20:50 < BleuLlama> and CS_ARROW[0-3] is the animation color 20:50 < BleuLlama> for the ">" arrow 20:50 < aegray> it never calls any menu functions to make them reinit? 20:51 < aegray> arg i have it creating a file and writing to it on startup, but its not showing up when I mount it :/ any ideas? 20:52 < BleuLlama> i had code in there that did that, but courtc changed it. it adds an int in the menu_st structure, scheme_no which is the color scheme numbe used to render the menu. it should redraw if it goes to expose the menus if the current color scheme number is different 20:52 < aegray> ok 20:52 < BleuLlama> did you fclose() the file? 20:52 < aegray> yea i think 20:52 < aegray> that should flush it right? 20:52 < BleuLlama> yeah 20:52 < aegray> hmm 20:53 < BleuLlama> the only possibility is that the filesystem isn't flushed from the OS' layer... put in a `sync` 20:53 < aegray> sync? 20:53 < BleuLlama> sync. it should be in /bin 20:53 < aegray> oh - execve("/bin/sync"); ? 20:53 < BleuLlama> it forces the OS to dump out all of its file buffers 20:53 < BleuLlama> yeah 20:54 < aegray> gah i suck at debugging this 20:54 < BleuLlama> are you sure that you're saving the file as the right filename, in the right place? 20:54 < aegray> yea - it was creating it before 20:54 < aegray> now it doesn't 20:54 < BleuLlama> i've done things like generating a filename, expecting it to be one thing, then looking for the file and it's not there... 20:54 < BleuLlama> and it was due to a bad filename generation 20:54 < aegray> I'm just saying fopen("/menulog.txt", "w"); 20:54 < BleuLlama> the FILE * is not null after you open it, right? 20:55 < aegray> oh should probably check that heh 20:55 < aegray> haha 20:55 < BleuLlama> yeah. if it can't open the file, fopen will return a NULL 20:55 < BleuLlama> i'm thinking about adding in a simple dialog chooser thingy... 20:55 < aegray> cool 20:55 < BleuLlama> brings up a standard "are you sure" kind of thing, with one, two, or three buttons, mouse selectable 20:56 < BleuLlama> you can shove it back into usb.c 20:56 < BleuLlama> (or i will) 20:56 < BleuLlama> and perhaps the current message window can be replaced by this too, since it's a little wonky at times 20:56 < aegray> yea 20:56 < BleuLlama> (although, it'll probably generate more bugs. heh) 20:56 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-66-25-30-132.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:58 < aegray> hmm we got some problems here 20:58 -!- reppard [~reppard@adsl-154-127-32.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 20:58 < BleuLlama> ? 20:58 < aegray> on normal init, it usually creates a root win and window 3 - the menu window 20:59 < aegray> sometimes, a 4th is getting created 20:59 < aegray> and all input goes to 4 20:59 < aegray> but windows[] still has 3 as the only identifier 20:59 < aegray> so its not finding a window to call the keypress on 20:59 < BleuLlama> is that the top window? 20:59 < BleuLlama> the header? 20:59 < aegray> maybe 20:59 < aegray> wait - the header doesn't have a separate window does it? 21:00 < aegray> wtf my file is 0 lines 21:00 < BleuLlama> dunno? 21:00 < BleuLlama> when you open the file, always print something like: fprintf( fp, "Started.\n" ); just to make sure that the file writes are working 21:01 < BleuLlama> end it with fprintf( fp, "Ended.\n" ); 21:01 < aegray> yea - i do - and it isn't working :/ 21:01 < BleuLlama> \r\n if you're a ms-dos dork 21:01 < BleuLlama> ;) 21:01 < aegray> haha 21:01 * BleuLlama just had to do that 21:02 < BleuLlama> not to mention the obligatory fopen( "binary.bin", "wb" ); (notice "WB" instead of "W"... since otherwise it will convert \n to \r\n for you. which is *SOOOO* useful 21:02 < BleuLlama> or "RB" which will not interpret 0 as end of file. grrr. 21:02 < aegray> you know too much 21:03 < BleuLlama> ugh 21:03 < aegray> i know "w" and "r" 21:03 < aegray> thats about the extent of it 21:03 < aegray> "a" is append right? 21:09 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-223-198-157.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 21:11 < BleuLlama> yep 21:11 < crashd> oh god, not vi 21:11 < aegray> new_menu_window is getting called 2x on start? 21:11 < BleuLlama> opens the file, tacking on new stuff on the end of it 21:11 < crashd> ;P 21:12 < aegray> wait nm 21:13 * BleuLlama is probably more proficient at vi than any other tool he uses 21:13 < BleuLlama> except perhaps 'screen' heh 21:13 < aegray> screen rocks! 21:14 < aegray> menu.c does not currently rock 21:14 < aegray> hmm.. 21:18 < BleuLlama> i should put in a pet rock sim 21:21 < aegray> ok i think i fixed it! 21:21 < BleuLlama> sure. 21:21 < BleuLlama> you? you fixed it? riiiiight. 21:21 < aegray> haha 21:21 < aegray> your right 21:21 < aegray> you're* 21:22 < aegray> i can't even spell 21:22 < BleuLlama> more like leachbj or courtc or coob fixed it in like 2 minutes, mailed it to you, and you sat on it for 3 hours, while playing Monkey Ball. 21:22 < BleuLlama> oh 21:22 < BleuLlama> hmmm 21:22 < aegray> haha 21:22 < BleuLlama> wait. that's me 21:22 * BleuLlama wasn't on last night since he ended up playing Katamari Damacy and Monkey Ball 2 21:22 * BleuLlama made the moon! 21:24 * aegray has no idea what that is 21:24 < BleuLlama> Katamari Damacy is a Playstation 2 game. 21:24 < BleuLlama> you roll around this ball thing, and it picks up things its size or smaller 21:25 < BleuLlama> it gets bigger, you can pick up bigger things. 21:25 < aegray> wow 21:25 < BleuLlama> start out picking up thumbtacks, batteries, eventually, you're picking up people, houses, elephants, buildings, islands, clouds... 21:25 < aegray> hahah 21:25 < BleuLlama> it's really fun to play 21:26 < BleuLlama> so you start by rolling around under a car or something, and you end up eventually picking upp that car, and the building it's next to, and the island it's on, and the mountain next to it... it's a really fun game of scale. ;) 21:26 < aegray> haha 21:26 < BleuLlama> and monkey ball is a sega game (gamecube) where you roll around a ball with a monkey in it to pick up bananas. 21:26 < aegray> haha 21:26 < aegray> even better 21:26 < BleuLlama> it's bascially a new version of Marble Madness 21:27 < aegray> i loved that one 21:28 < aegray> bleullama how do i go about doing this - i need to get rid of pz_error being called before new_menu_window on startup - but we still want a message if its blowing away the settings? 21:28 < aegray> erm - what should i do? 21:29 < BleuLlama> http://www.got-next.com/reviews_read.php?id=32 21:29 < BleuLlama> hmm 21:29 < aegray> iplbot: should I just comment out the line? 21:29 < iplbot> If I tell you that I'll have to shoot you 21:29 < aegray> damn 21:30 < BleuLlama> i don't understand the question 21:32 -!- CelticSoulVN [~celtic@cm102.gamma51.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 < aegray> 1) settings are corrupt -> show error message ->pz_new_window 21:32 < aegray> 2) new_message_window -> pz_new_window for menu 21:32 < aegray> 3) message timer runs out-> pz_close_window 21:33 < aegray> *i think* 21:33 < aegray> so windows[0] = id of message window 21:33 < aegray> windows[1] = id of menu window 21:33 -!- Bi-noix [~Ben@ivr94-3-82-226-13-213.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["bn"] 21:33 < aegray> but n_opened is decreased when pz_close_window is called for the error window 21:33 < aegray> so the only thing left in windows[] is the id of the error window, which is closed 21:34 < aegray> and no keypresses are sent to the menu window because windows[] holds an invalid window id 21:34 < aegray> we don't have logic to handle if a lower level window is removed 21:34 < BleuLlama> ah 21:34 * aegray adding it 21:34 < aegray> nm figured it out 21:34 < aegray> thanks 21:34 < BleuLlama> heh 21:35 < BleuLlama> i heard about a guy who was always bothered at work by people explaining their problem, expecting him to help them, but in the process of explaining their problem, they figured out the solution themselves 21:35 < BleuLlama> so he put a teddy bear in his cube 21:35 < aegray> haha 21:35 < BleuLlama> and told everyone "explain your problem to the teddy bear before talking to me" 21:36 < BleuLlama> hehe 21:36 < aegray> i'm gonna do that 21:36 < BleuLlama> you already did that. explain all problems to iplbot 21:36 < aegray> hi iplbot. I have a problem 21:36 < BleuLlama> just make him occasionally say things like: Hmmmm 21:36 < aegray> ~should I explain it to you? 21:36 < iplbot> Definitely 21:36 < BleuLlama> i see... 21:36 < aegray> haha 21:36 < BleuLlama> hmm. have you tried... no.. nevermind... hmmmm 21:36 < BleuLlama> etc 21:37 < BleuLlama> anyway. off for dinner with the in-laws 21:37 < aegray> k 21:37 < BleuLlama> mmm. food 21:37 < aegray> have fun 21:37 < BleuLlama> i'll be back on later. 21:38 < BleuLlama> if you're lucky 21:38 < aegray> cool 21:38 < BleuLlama> have fun fixin stuff 21:38 * BleuLlama afk 21:52 -!- walden [~walden@c-24-7-104-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 < walden> hi 21:52 < aegray> hello 21:52 < aegray> CIA - go! 21:53 < CIA-4> aegray * tools/podzilla/ (pz.c usb.c): Fixed a menu freezing bug. pz_close_window only allowed for a lifo of windows. Added in ability to remove any window in the array. 21:53 < walden> i just saw the iPod Linux project on wikipedia 21:53 < walden> cool idea! :) 21:53 < hyarion> even better is that it works :) 21:53 < aegray> haha 21:53 < walden> heh 21:53 < aegray> wtf why usb.c? 21:53 < aegray> hmmm 21:54 < walden> i like what is says about ipod shuffle support :) 21:54 < walden> WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED BY IPODLINUX FOR OBVIOUS REASONS 21:54 < aegray> haha 21:55 < hyarion> should add that to the bot 21:55 < aegray> huh? 21:55 < aegray> the shuffle? 21:56 < hyarion> ...stuff, yes 21:56 < aegray> iplbot tell hyarion about the ipod shuffle 21:56 < iplbot> hyarion, I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 21:56 < iplbot> hyarion, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 21:56 < aegray> hmm 21:56 < aegray> ~ipod shuffle 21:56 < iplbot> aegray, ipod shuffle is not ever going to be supported for obvious reasons. 21:56 < aegray> there we go 21:56 < walden> ipod shuffle? 21:57 < walden> iplbot tell me about the ipod shuffle 21:57 < iplbot> walden, I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 21:57 < iplbot> walden, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 21:57 < aegray> hmm 21:57 < aegray> hold on 21:57 < aegray> iplbot tell walden about the ipod shuffle 21:57 < iplbot> walden, the ipod shuffle is not ever going to be supported for obvious reasons. Please don't ask. 21:57 < aegray> :) 21:58 < walden> :) 21:58 < walden> iplbot tell me about the ipod shuffle 21:58 < iplbot> walden, the ipod shuffle is not ever going to be supported for obvious reasons. Please don't ask. 21:59 < hyarion> it's not as funny as the capitalized version :/ 21:59 < walden> iplbot tell me about the ipod 21:59 < iplbot> walden, I guess the factoid 'ideas about ipodlinux' might be appropriate: 21:59 < iplbot> walden, ideas about ipodlinux is :: We could really care less. 21:59 < walden> okay :) 21:59 < walden> hyarion: yeah, that's true :) 22:00 < aegray> iplbot tell walden about ipod 22:00 < iplbot> walden, ipod is a really cool mp3 player. You should get one. And if you already have one, buy more! 22:00 < aegray> hehe 22:00 < walden> i have one already 22:00 < aegray> what does it say? 22:00 < aegray> " And if you already have one, buy more!" 22:00 < walden> unfortunately it is 4G 22:00 < walden> i don't have money for more ipods :p 22:01 < aegray> fortunately you mean 22:01 < aegray> 4g's rock 22:01 < walden> yeah 22:01 < walden> but it's not supported by ipod linux 22:01 < walden> but i guess i can live with that 22:01 < hyarion> is it a vanilla ipod, photo or mini? 22:01 < aegray> you don't need support if you can figure things out for yourself 22:01 < Pokeon> Offically not supprted.... that doesnt mean it dont run 22:01 < walden> hyarion: vanilla 4g 22:01 < hyarion> ok 22:02 < walden> what sucks is that apple tried to prevent ipod linux from working w/ their latest firmware update 22:02 < aegray> huh? 22:03 < aegray> i don't think it was intentional 22:03 < walden> oh 22:03 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:03 < walden> then maybe it will work w/ their next firmware 22:04 < aegray> or we'll figure out what's wrong 22:05 < walden> :) 22:05 < walden> i've really gotten hooked up ipod notes 22:06 < walden> it kinda makes me wish ipods had a wifi interface and a web browser 22:06 < walden> maybe i should just get a wifi PDA though 22:06 < aegray> or wait.... 22:07 -!- mikeazorin [~mikeazori@cpe-66-108-147-146.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]"] 22:07 < _matt_> web browser, wifi == psp 22:07 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:08 < ScOrPiO-P> just updated podzilla and the kernel.bin on my 20gb ipod color but will not play music in podzilla just wondering if should be not working or i have not updated it right 22:08 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: can you play songs through the filebrowser? 22:08 < ScOrPiO-P> nope 22:09 < walden> _matt_: psp? 22:09 < aegray> what happens? 22:09 < walden> whazzat? 22:09 < ScOrPiO-P> just video 22:09 < _matt_> portable playstation 22:09 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: what happens when you play a song 22:09 < walden> hmm 22:09 < _matt_> you must know what a psp is surely? 22:09 -!- kenthegreat [~ken@dsl-80-43-76-184.access.as9105.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 < walden> oh yeah 22:09 < _matt_> they play videos too 22:09 < walden> i have one 22:09 < walden> there's a portable playstation though? 22:10 < walden> can you do mail on it too? 22:10 < aegray> that's what psp is 22:10 < ScOrPiO-P> i get this msg malloc faile 22:10 -!- kenthegreat [~ken@dsl-80-43-76-184.access.as9105.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:10 < walden> wow 22:10 < walden> that's pretty cool 22:10 < walden> can you run linux on it? 22:10 < _matt_> I believe theres groups less able than this one currently working on linux for the psp at which point it'll do anything 22:11 < aegray> less able? 22:11 < Pokeon> Linux on the DS... way better... cause you haev the touch screen 22:11 < _matt_> Have you been on the psp-linux forums? 22:11 < Pokeon> bettery for typing 22:11 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: you can't play songs that are too big 22:11 < crashd> Pokeon: would you like to write a device driver for that? 22:11 < walden> _matt_: nope 22:11 < crashd> i sure as hell wouldnt mate :0 22:11 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: play smaler songs 22:11 < aegray> smaller* 22:11 < walden> i didn't know anything aobut the portable 22:11 < aegray> s/smaller/smallerfdsa 22:11 < aegray> hmm 22:11 < ScOrPiO-P> ok will try it 22:12 < _matt_> walden: http://www.us.playstation.com/psp.aspx 22:12 < walden> yeah i'm looking for the webbrowser... 22:12 < _matt_> its part of the wipeout pure game 22:12 < _matt_> think the new ones with 2.0 firmware have a proper web browser 22:12 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 22:13 < walden> nice 22:13 < _matt_> and if its ever fully linuxed (new word?) it'll have all sorts I assume 22:13 < Pokeon> but doesnt the new firmware break the emu hacks 22:13 < walden> i don't suppose they will have a mail client 22:13 < ScOrPiO-P> it works with just 1 song but when i push menu to go back to the music list it freezes 22:13 < _matt_> webmail? 22:14 * walden is looking for a keyboard 22:15 < ScOrPiO-P> so had to restart the ipod 22:16 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: shouldnt freeze 22:16 < walden> psp looks interesting 22:16 < walden> i'm not a big fan of sony's memory stick tech though 22:16 < walden> why not just use compact flash or sd? 22:16 < crashd> walden: locks the user into their tech 22:16 < crashd> obviousy :\ 22:16 < walden> yeah 22:16 < walden> bastards 22:17 < walden> also it has a snazzy marketing name 22:17 < ScOrPiO-P> freezed each i play a track thats when want go back to menu 22:17 < walden> hmm 22:17 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: update podzilla 22:18 < _matt_> unfortunately europe is currently a psp void 22:18 < aegray> or wait for tonights nightly 22:18 < ScOrPiO-P> will wait 4 tonights nightly coz have update podzilla with todays 22:26 < Pokeon> mhmm I have the lastest nightly kernel and a CVS Podzilla but video still wont work it would seem 22:27 < ScOrPiO-P> video works 4 me 22:27 -!- aegray_ [~someguy@c-67-186-108-15.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:28 < Pokeon> ScOrPiO-P, is your podzilla up to date? 22:29 < ScOrPiO-P> yes 22:29 < ScOrPiO-P> updated it today 22:29 < Pokeon> wanna dcc me your kernel then... Im guessing mine f*cked up somewhere 22:30 < ScOrPiO-P> u want 2005-07-23-kernel.bin.gz 22:30 < Pokeon> ya 22:30 < Pokeon> I downloaded today adn it didnt fix 22:31 < ScOrPiO-P> r u a windows 22:32 < Pokeon> for most part 22:33 < Pokeon> lol thats a wierd msg 22:33 < Pokeon> it appears not to like me 22:34 < Pokeon> ah just forget about it... thx anyways 22:34 < ScOrPiO-P> oh ok 22:35 < ScOrPiO-P> it working fine now 22:36 < ScOrPiO-P> done 22:36 < Pokeon> dude you got a wierd connection 22:36 < ScOrPiO-P> i know 22:38 < ScOrPiO-P> my mirc Tryto resend file in 30 seconds when it cuts off 22:42 < ScOrPiO-P> did u change the code in SysInfo on my ipod an run iPod Updater 2005-06-26 and then install ipl 22:42 < Pokeon> yup yup 22:42 < Pokeon> if i dont AppleOS wont boot 22:45 < ScOrPiO-P> ok dose it just say loading video when try play video in podzilla 22:45 < Pokeon> it doesnt stop saying Loading 22:46 < ScOrPiO-P> did u try othere videos 22:47 < Pokeon> I have 3 videos on there and they worked before I updated my CVS build 22:48 < ScOrPiO-P> have u try restore ur ipod and install ipl 22:48 < Pokeon> no 22:49 < walden> how do you reinstall your original ipod software? 22:49 < Pokeon> A restore wouldnt make a different 22:51 -!- aegray_ [~someguy@c-67-186-108-15.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:54 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:55 -!- Prot [Prot@ip24-251-7-57.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:00 -!- Prot [Prot@ip24-251-7-57.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:05 -!- Nude_dingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:05 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 -!- steiny [~steiny@e180171154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 23:13 -!- walden [~walden@c-24-7-104-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:14 -!- bon [~bon@212.89.236.109] has joined #ipodlinux 23:14 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 23:14 < bon> hello 23:14 < bon> :) 23:15 < bon> just got my new ipod and was wondering do i need to fully charge it like for 5+ hours? 23:15 < hyarion> yes 23:15 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8DEC6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:15 < bon> hmhm :/ 23:15 < bon> i am falling asleep already 23:16 < bon> can't wait another 5 hours :) 23:16 < hyarion> well... you don't need to but... 23:17 < bon> but? 23:18 < hyarion> I think it's safe to turn it for like a minute or so 23:19 < bon> the colr screen is awesome 23:19 < hyarion> but I recommend to follow the instructions 23:19 < hyarion> :) 23:19 < bon> well it didn't say fully charge 23:19 < bon> :) 23:19 < bon> but i guess i will leave it on there for 5 hours 23:19 < bon> or wtf 23:19 < bon> until the morning 23:20 < hyarion> often they charge it so your able to se if it works... 23:20 < bon> yeah it had some energy in 23:20 < bon> just enough to turn it on 23:20 < bon> and see the awesome colors 23:20 < bon> :) 23:20 < bon> i'm so inpatient 23:20 < bon> im 23:23 < Prot> easy there 23:24 < bon> hm 23:24 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-34-43.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:25 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:30 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-186-108-15.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:30 < Capso> Where is the iPodLinux Video documentation page again? 23:30 < aegray> ~video player 23:30 < iplbot> I guess the factoid 'sound in video' might be appropriate: 23:30 < iplbot> aegray, sound in video is :: fuck off 23:30 < aegray> whoops 23:30 < aegray> haha 23:31 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 23:31 < Capso> Thanks. 23:31 < Capso> Need some help with IPLBot? 23:31 < aegray> iplbot tell capso about the video player 23:31 < iplbot> capso, I guess the factoid 'sound in video' might be appropriate: 23:31 < iplbot> capso, sound in video is :: fuck off 23:31 < aegray> dman 23:31 < aegray> this thing sucks 23:31 < aegray> ~video player 23:31 < iplbot> aegray, video player is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 23:31 < aegray> there we go 23:31 < aegray> ~the video player 23:31 < iplbot> aegray, the video player is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 23:31 < aegray> hahah 23:32 < Capso> Aegray: Would you happen to know the MPlayer Command to play an AVI? 23:32 < aegray> mplayer filename.avi? 23:32 < aegray> thats how i do it 23:32 < Capso> I am unable to recall it. 23:32 < Capso> That's not working for me. 23:32 < aegray> what does it say? 23:32 < josh_> you may need the win32codecs 23:32 < Capso> AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :( 23:32 < josh_> hmm... no idea 23:33 < hyarion> google it 23:33 < aegray> either 1) a bad avi file or 2) you need some codecs for it 23:33 < Capso> I was able to play some other AVIs before. 23:33 < Capso> Some options Joecool told me. 23:33 < aegray> iplbot tell capso about google mplayer avi codec 23:33 < iplbot> capso, I'll tell you the results in a private message, capso 23:34 < aegray> thanks iplbot 23:36 < Capso> I can give more in #iPodLinux.Flood if anyone's willing to help. 23:36 < Capso> I got more from a -v option. 23:36 < hyarion> iplbot tell ~iplbot about a lame test 23:36 < iplbot> The user ~iplbot is not on #ipodlinux 23:37 < hyarion> :( 23:37 < hyarion> I hoped for a chain reaction 23:37 < josh_> Capso: are you in #ipodlinux.flood? 23:37 < Capso> Err, damn. 23:37 < Capso> One second. 23:37 < Capso> Too many Channels. 23:39 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:59 -!- yanagi [~yanagi@Toronto-HSE-ppp3659960.sympatico.ca] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Sun Jul 24 00:00:00 2005