--- Log opened Thu Jul 21 00:00:04 2005 00:00 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-156-138-235.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:00 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 00:00 < johnny999> courtc, u there? 00:01 < courtc> yes 00:01 < aegray> no 00:01 < Decipha> Hey, I've got two ideas for features of ipl, where should I post them? 00:01 < courtc> err.. no 00:01 < Decipha> Or should I just tell you? 00:01 < aegray> tell 00:01 < aegray> do tell 00:02 < johnny999> yer funny. I have been messing with that mpd problem I was having Sunday. My Ipod still won't parse the ituneslib into mpd? I am stumped 00:02 < Decipha> I have a car charger, tape kit for my ipod, and when I use it (in apple mode), if I turn off the car it pauses it, which is a good thing. But when I turn the car back on it doesn't resume playing. 00:02 < courtc> johnny999, wait for a new userland release. 00:02 < aegray> lol 00:02 < Decipha> I think there should be a setting that will do so. It could be done by checking for power. 00:03 < johnny999> ok. 00:03 < aegray> add it 00:04 < Decipha> The other one is, also with apple os, occasionally my GF or myself want to hear a specific song, but it would be good if you could set it so that after the song plays, it would go straight back to shuffle songs 00:04 < Decipha> I would if I could gray, I still gotta get time to learn C before I can though :( 00:05 < courtc> so you try to get other people to do your bidding for you? 00:05 < aegray> lol 00:05 * aegray does bidding 00:05 < aegray> 500$ 00:05 < aegray> do i hear 6? 00:05 < Decipha> $6... done! 00:05 < aegray> sold to the lucky man in the pants 00:06 < courtc> haha 00:06 < courtc> hopefully he is wearing pants 00:06 * aegray not wearing pants 00:06 < Decipha> I just have ideas.. no point wasting them because I can't make them a reality yet 00:07 < courtc> yea, the world of open source is full of ideas, just lacking in people to write them (or even care about them) 00:07 < aegray> like bill gates said! 00:08 < courtc> for example, I don't care about your ideas so I won't write them. 00:08 < Decipha> Once I start uni I should have alot more spare time.... plus I will studying programming... so I should be able to contribute. 00:08 < Decipha> Btw, have any of you guys ever used a program called Enterprise Architect? 00:08 < aegray> whats it for? 00:09 < Decipha> It's a UML 2 modelling tool... 00:10 < aegray> never used uml 00:10 < aegray> haha and i work with j2ee 00:10 < aegray> how sad 00:10 < Decipha> Fair enough, just curios. 00:10 < Decipha> Anyway, I gotta get workin'. Catch you guys later 00:10 < aegray> cool 00:11 < macpod> java sucks.. 00:11 < aegray> hey now 00:11 < hyarion> no it dosn't 00:11 < aegray> just because it sucks doesn't mean you have to make fun of it 00:11 < macpod> I stated a fact, but I didn't make fun of it yet... :) 00:12 -!- CIA-4 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:13 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 00:13 -!- CIA-4 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 < hyarion> courtc, it doesn't work for me with gcc 3.4.3 either :( 00:19 < courtc> :/ 00:20 < hyarion> but it isn't the same problems and that good news :) 00:20 < courtc> we all know java really does suck.. but so does c++ and that doesn't stop people from using it. 00:20 < aegray> java is good for enterprise apps 00:20 < aegray> web* 00:20 < aegray> every language has its uses 00:20 < hyarion> and for portability 00:21 < aegray> yes but thats not worth the compromise sometimes 00:21 < courtc> c is good for portability 00:21 < BleuLlama> and good for situations where you need to make a gui-based application that can run on windows, mac, linux, solaris, etc... 00:21 < hyarion> not in a noob perspective 00:21 * aegray heading home - finally 00:22 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:22 < aegray> i don't think anyone really cares about newb perspective - the people who need to worry about portability usually aren't noob's 00:23 * aegray final thought 00:23 < hyarion> there is both mac and windows noobs 00:23 < aegray> what does that have to do with anything? 00:24 < aegray> nm - argue me later - i'm off 00:24 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:24 < hyarion> night folks 00:25 < courtc> g'night 00:25 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit ["..."] 00:31 -!- Ph0n33z [~yeauhuh@68-67-18-113.snbrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 < Ph0n33z> greetings boys 00:32 < courtc> howdy men 00:33 < Ph0n33z> how r u court 00:33 -!- zack_|work [~Delirious@adsl-66-126-171-192.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:33 < courtc> I am fine. 00:33 < Ph0n33z> good to hear 00:33 < Ph0n33z> I had a few noob questions after reading the site 00:34 < courtc> ok .... 00:34 < Ph0n33z> are u knowledgeable about this or 00:35 < BleuLlama> i'll try to help if you spell your words out 00:35 < Ph0n33z> hehe 00:35 < Ph0n33z> k 00:35 < courtc> haha, its a distint possibility. 00:35 < courtc> distinct? distant? 00:35 < courtc> dunno 00:35 < Ph0n33z> I was just wondering if there is any known way to use services like yahoo! music or rhapsody subscription with an ipod. I was thinking that maybe with ipodlinux, u could run diff drms 00:36 < Prot> 1. IPOZ R 4 PLAY MUZIK 00:36 < Ph0n33z> thus my questions fits in 00:36 < Ph0n33z> *question 00:37 < courtc> no known way as of yet. 00:37 < Ph0n33z> damn........I thought so 00:37 < Ph0n33z> i know there are some "appz" that crack the drm.......but was wondering if there was another more legal method 00:38 < Ph0n33z> basically, I need to listen to a lot of soundtracks for research 00:38 < Ph0n33z> movie soundtracks 00:38 < Ph0n33z> so I dont want to buy them all 00:38 < Prot> refer to the faq I just posted 00:38 < Ph0n33z> nor steal them all 00:38 < Prot> wait 00:38 < BleuLlama> research? 00:38 < Prot> you want them, but you don't want to buy or steel them 00:38 < Ph0n33z> no no 00:38 < BleuLlama> what does that leave? 00:38 < Ph0n33z> buy the whole cds 00:38 < Ph0n33z> individual songs 00:38 < Ph0n33z> it leaves yahoo 00:38 < Ph0n33z> and rhapsody 00:38 < BleuLlama> how about itunes 00:39 < Ph0n33z> I would have to buy each song 00:39 < BleuLlama> you could always just listen to them on your computer 00:39 < Ph0n33z> costing me tons 00:39 < Prot> I'm going to the car dealership, I will bring back a car, but I don't plan to buy one. I also don't plan to steal any cars. I hope it works out. 00:39 < Ph0n33z> yea that was the thing 00:39 < Ph0n33z> but I need to be by my piano 00:39 < BleuLlama> well, you know what? deal. buy the music 00:39 < Ph0n33z> wow 00:39 < Ph0n33z> fun crowd tonight 00:39 < Prot> its the heat 00:39 < Ph0n33z> basically my only complaint is that apple is ridiculous for not offering a subscription service for the ipod 00:40 < Ph0n33z> or not allowing yahoo/rhapsody too 00:40 < courtc> apple is not ridiculous, they are competitive. 00:40 < Ph0n33z> cause I onyl need this music for a few months......and I dont want to spend $200 for that u know 00:40 < Ph0n33z> no 00:40 < Ph0n33z> think about what u just said 00:40 < Prot> doesnt apple offer a ridiculous amout of subscription services through itunes? 00:40 < BleuLlama> apple is a for-profit company. it happens 00:40 < Ph0n33z> and yahoo rhapsody are nto 00:41 < Ph0n33z> I see apple doing no compeitiotn 00:41 < Ph0n33z> where is their service 00:41 < Ph0n33z> thats competition 00:41 < Prot> itunes? 00:41 < Ph0n33z> SUBSCRIPTION 00:41 < BleuLlama> STFU 00:41 < Ph0n33z> they dont compete at ALL 00:41 < Prot> you saying itunes provides no subscriptions in all their various services? 00:41 < Ph0n33z> wow nice argument bleu 00:41 < Ph0n33z> no 00:41 < Ph0n33z> I only mean 00:41 < Prot> stfu, standup for u 00:42 < BleuLlama> they're all services to buy music 00:42 < BleuLlama> pay per song, pay per month, whatever 00:42 < Ph0n33z> they havent even tried brining out a similair line for ipod users thats all I am saying 00:42 < Prot> maybe I dont get what a subscription is then 00:42 < BleuLlama> they are competing with eachother 00:42 < Ph0n33z> oh ok 00:42 < Ph0n33z> basically 00:42 < Ph0n33z> its like 00:42 < Ph0n33z> netflix 00:42 < Prot> if 'download 30 songs a month' isnt a subscription 00:42 < Ph0n33z> for music 00:42 < Ph0n33z> its like netflix 00:42 < Ph0n33z> but 00:42 < Ph0n33z> diff 00:42 < Ph0n33z> in that 00:43 < Prot> thanks 00:43 < Prot> fore 00:43 < Prot> the 00:43 < Prot> info 00:43 < Ph0n33z> if netflix let u have as many movies as u want at one time 00:43 < BleuLlama> i had an emusic account "unlimited downloads per month", but there really was a cap to the number of downloads 00:43 < Ph0n33z> yahoo has none afaik 00:43 < BleuLlama> please, spell out your words 00:43 < Ph0n33z> basically 00:43 < Ph0n33z> you pay $6 a month to download and have as many songs as u want.......but as soon as u stop paying per month, the music is taken back 00:43 < Prot> you probably wont find much in the way of subscriptions in this opensource homebrew environment 00:43 < Ph0n33z> basically renting music 00:43 < BleuLlama> you* 00:44 < Prot> how could anyone control what music you have on your ipod? 00:44 < BleuLlama> i like to own music, myself 00:44 < Prot> like, all the files delete after a month? 00:44 < Ph0n33z> I do as well 00:44 < Ph0n33z> that was my questions prot lol 00:44 < Ph0n33z> to keep the songs 00:44 < BleuLlama> what is your 'research' for? 00:44 < Ph0n33z> u pay 70 cents 00:44 < Ph0n33z> to burn them 00:44 < Ph0n33z> u have to buy them 00:44 < Ph0n33z> the research 00:44 < Prot> and there are media players that do delete your songs from your portable mp3 player if you don't pay up? 00:44 < BleuLlama> SPELL OUT YOUR WORDS 00:44 < Prot> cause thats confusing 00:44 < Ph0n33z> oh oh 00:45 < Ph0n33z> I am sorry bleu, now I understand what you mean 00:45 < Prot> and scary 00:45 < Ph0n33z> I am co-composing a soundtrack for an independent film. So I need to listen to many different soundtracks to get some inspiration. 00:45 < Prot> then borrow them from piratebay 00:45 < BleuLlama> ah 00:46 < Ph0n33z> So if I used itunes, it would cost me a lot 00:46 < Prot> and send the artist 20 cents 00:46 < Ph0n33z> what is piratebay? I have heard about it. 00:46 < Ph0n33z> oh torrents 00:46 < Prot> its disney's new water park website 00:46 < Ph0n33z> Have to love torrents 00:46 < Ph0n33z> Well that is what I am saying 00:46 < Ph0n33z> Apple really leaves me with two choices: Buy each album/song, or steal it 00:47 < Prot> as soon as you are able to explain to me how someone can let you borrow an mp3 and be able to take it away from you, I'll stop acting so confused 00:47 < Ph0n33z> I only wish they offered a similair thing as all of the other services 00:47 < courtc> apple is still competeing with yahoo and rhapsody BY not allowing subscribers to use their music on the ipod. Apple doesn't have to provide music subscriptions to stay above the other companies in the music industry. 00:47 < BleuLlama> the last film i worked on, our musician just watched the film and spoke with the director to get the feel of the music needed for the scenes. 00:47 < Prot> what kind of movie is it? 00:48 < courtc> Conviently it means apple doen't need to make an effort to provide uses for the services. easy. 00:48 < Ph0n33z> I have yet to see the film bro. Its on a very tight schedule, and I will only have 1 week to come up with the music 00:48 < Ph0n33z> So I want to have some idea before I see it. 00:48 < Prot> thats plenty of time 00:48 < BleuLlama> geez. never take a contract like that. 1 week to score an entire film? are they fucking insane? 00:48 < Ph0n33z> not when this is your first composition! lol 00:48 < Prot> erm, well I suppose maybe if you're slow 00:48 < Prot> first composition? oh well there you go 00:48 < Ph0n33z> indeed 00:49 < Prot> what are you using to compose? 00:49 < Ph0n33z> Well, I have been trying out sibelius, the new version, and it seems pretty sweet. 00:49 < Ph0n33z> Especially with the new video integration 00:49 < Ph0n33z> Do you compose prot? 00:49 < Prot> does it do vsti? 00:49 < Prot> I used to 00:49 < Ph0n33z> What type? 00:49 < Prot> then the community went to shit 00:49 < Prot> video game remixes 00:49 < Ph0n33z> Not sure what vsti is 00:50 < Prot> vsti are instruments you plug into various apps, namely cubase 00:50 < Ph0n33z> oh so you didnt really "write". You were more of a mashup/dj? 00:50 < Prot> its more writing than djying, and I have more originals anyway 00:50 < Ph0n33z> very neat 00:50 < Prot> djing is bullshit 00:51 < Ph0n33z> I am a pianist myself, so classical is mostly what I know. However, I love movie scores and this should be a fun experience. 00:51 < Prot> classical doesn't fit into movie scrores 00:51 < BleuLlama> how much did Cubase cost you? 00:51 < Ph0n33z> If classical didnt exist, you wouldnt have movie score 00:51 < Ph0n33z> a* 00:51 < Prot> it was like 300 or something 00:52 < Prot> I did orchestral a few times, but my samples sucked 00:52 < Ph0n33z> It is really sad to see how many people of the current generation know nothing of classical music/art appreciation 00:52 < Ph0n33z> not saying you bro 00:52 < Ph0n33z> Its just really sad 00:52 < Ph0n33z> It is the greatest music ever written 00:52 < Prot> news flash, there was never a time when 'many people' were ever into classical music 00:52 < Ph0n33z> your kidding right? 00:52 < Prot> enlighten me 00:53 < Prot> most people in the 17th centure didn't have ipods as I recall 00:53 < Prot> or even radios, 00:53 < Ph0n33z> That is all there was before the 1800's bro. Everything was orchestra/classical in the US and europe 00:53 < Prot> and? 00:53 < Ph0n33z> thus EVERYONE listened to it 00:53 < Ph0n33z> Prot ) news flash, there was never a time when 'many people' 00:53 < Prot> and less than 1% of the population was able to afford listening to it 00:53 < Ph0n33z> I believe everyone is many 00:53 < Ph0n33z> there were not records bro 00:53 < Prot> less than 1% isnt much to me 00:53 < Ph0n33z> lol 00:53 < Prot> but to each his own 00:53 < Ph0n33z> its called concerts 00:53 < Ph0n33z> recitals 00:53 < Ph0n33z> thats all the had 00:53 < Ph0n33z> they 00:54 < Ph0n33z> so if you are looking at 00:54 < Ph0n33z> the MUSIC audience 00:54 < Ph0n33z> it was 100% 00:54 < Ph0n33z> where as today 00:54 < Ph0n33z> it is probably 1% 00:54 < Prot> of the general population in the 18th century, how many people went to concerts? everyone? or the more realistic <1% 00:54 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDE94A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:54 < PoThEaD404> how much % of Podzilla work on 20gb ipod photo 00:54 < Prot> it all seems to work for me PoThEaD404 00:55 < Ph0n33z> YOu can not realistically say 1% unless you research 00:55 < BleuLlama> 34.21% 00:55 < Prot> yes I can 00:55 < Ph0n33z> no u cant 00:55 < Ph0n33z> unless you KNOW your history very very well 00:55 < Prot> folk or pop was always the most popular music in any generation because it was available 00:55 < Prot> very few people went to concerts 00:55 < Ph0n33z> bro 00:55 < PoThEaD404> Prot use mic andd save it 00:55 < Prot> most people weren't even aware of classical music 00:55 < Ph0n33z> pop WAS classical 00:55 < PoThEaD404> can u* 00:55 < PoThEaD404> and* 00:55 < Prot> Ph0n33z, pop certainly was not classic 00:55 < Ph0n33z> that is all there was 00:55 < Prot> at the time folk was classic 00:55 < Ph0n33z> so popular music as classical 00:55 < Prot> er, pop was folk sory 00:56 < Ph0n33z> was* 00:56 < Ph0n33z> it has changed 00:56 < Ph0n33z> obviously 00:56 < Ph0n33z> through generations 00:56 < Ph0n33z> I was only debating your point that there was NEVER a time where many people listned 00:56 < Ph0n33z> which is entirely flase 00:56 < Ph0n33z> false 00:56 < Ph0n33z> all of europe did 00:56 < Ph0n33z> thats all there was 00:56 < Prot> so, you're telling me that the majority of the population, I'll have to assume >51%, went to concerts and heard classical music in the 18th century eh? 00:56 < Prot> and they weren't really living in the ditch eating cake 00:56 < Ph0n33z> I cant say the 18th century no 00:57 < Ph0n33z> bro 00:57 < Ph0n33z> think of europe 00:57 < Ph0n33z> the major cities are small 00:57 < Ph0n33z> compact 00:57 < Ph0n33z> tight 00:57 < Ph0n33z> music can be heard for far 00:57 < Ph0n33z> people played 00:57 < Ph0n33z> instruments 00:57 < Ph0n33z> what did they play 00:57 < Ph0n33z> classical 00:57 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:57 < Ph0n33z> all music was classical 00:57 < Prot> so yea, ipods are net 00:57 < Prot> neet 00:58 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 < Ph0n33z> wow..........gave up I guess.......tty guys later gl with linux 00:58 < Ph0n33z> WOW.........I am looking for war of the worlds soundtrack, and found a torrent for a dance remix 00:58 < Ph0n33z> lol 00:58 < Ph0n33z> wotw dance remix 00:58 < Ph0n33z> hmmmm lol 00:58 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:59 < Ph0n33z> sad 00:59 < BleuLlama> please take any "stealing music" talk elsewhere 00:59 < Prot> learn some taste, jeff wayne's war of the worlds is popular in europe 00:59 < PoThEaD404> can i use VMware Workstation 4 linux and view linux hd of my ipod 00:59 < BleuLlama> we don't need the project getting any legal attention 00:59 * aegray calls his lawyer 00:59 < Ph0n33z> no no I am not getting any illegal music 00:59 < Ph0n33z> do not worry bro 00:59 < Ph0n33z> I will not mention anything 01:00 < Ph0n33z> *zips speak of music download 01:00 < PoThEaD404> in xp 01:01 < Prot> jeffwayne's wotw was an original album featuring acting and soundeffects recreating the book war of the worlds 01:01 -!- Ph0n33z [~yeauhuh@68-67-18-113.snbrca.adelphia.net] has quit [":::: ( UPP ) ::::"] 01:01 < Prot> later it was turned into a dance sountrack, a video game, and soon a movie 01:01 < BleuLlama> i need to rent the original movie... hmm.. 01:02 < Prot> original movie was based on the book, but strayed far in the details 01:02 < Prot> 3 wotw movies came out this year 01:03 -!- Decipha [~iamwherei@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [Success] 01:03 < Z_Man> wow, some mexican bot came on my IRC server.... hmm.. haha, i killed him 01:03 < Z_Man> IRC network 01:03 < Prot> mexican bot? sounds scary 01:03 < Z_Man> yeah 01:03 < Z_Man> it's nick was Joan 01:03 < aegray> whats your irc network? 01:04 < Z_Man> nerdinet 01:04 < aegray> how do i connect?? 01:04 < Z_Man> zachypoo.kicks-ass.net 01:04 < Z_Man> is the host name 01:04 < Prot> are you one of those guys who, when losing a debate, glines everyone? 01:04 < Z_Man> it's very small 01:04 < Z_Man> Prot, no 01:04 < Z_Man> but no bots are allowed 01:05 < aegray> are you fatman? 01:05 < Z_Man> yes 01:05 < aegray> hehe 01:10 -!- aegray is now known as aegray\ 01:11 -!- aegray\ is now known as aegray 01:13 -!- Z_Man is now known as \dev\null 01:13 -!- \dev\null is now known as Z_Man 01:17 -!- danalien is now known as princeofdarkness 01:18 -!- Surferdude [~Surferdud@pcp09708992pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:20 < Surferdude> Erm, Hi. Tried to install iPodlinux on my 4G. Everything went fine untill I tried to boot it. I can see the text coming down the screen, but after that the screen turns blank and it doesnt do anything untill i reset back into Apple's firmware. 01:20 < Surferdude> I know the 4G is unsupported, but i was wondering if anyone knew about this 01:21 < macpod> search the forums 01:21 < Surferdude> Found somthing... thanks :) 01:29 -!- LordN_Away is now known as Lord_Nightmare 01:37 < Surferdude> Is it just me or is http://www.ipodlinux.org/nightlys/ not working 01:38 < Surferdude> None of the files are working... 01:41 < PoThEaD404> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 01:41 < PoThEaD404> go there 01:48 < corpix> re 01:48 < corpix> hi guys 01:48 < corpix> so, what happened to mpd 01:49 < corpix> anything new ? 01:49 < corpix> since the last days ? 01:52 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:53 -!- Surferdude [~Surferdud@pcp09708992pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good"] 01:55 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 < meatmanek> Yes, Surferdude, reading the topic is a Good Thing(tm).... 02:02 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-200-68.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 -!- Surferdude [~Surferdud@pcp09708992pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 < PoThEaD404> just keep pushing the center button untill it load up 02:05 < Surferdude> one more question... 02:06 < Surferdude> How do I restore from a backup that was made via the setup program 02:06 < PoThEaD404> idk i just use iPod Updater to restore 02:07 < Surferdude> Then whats the point of doing a backup through the installer? 02:10 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-200-68.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:11 -!- javyx [~javyx@213.202.217.164] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:14 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:16 < PoThEaD404> i dont do back up 02:16 < PoThEaD404> coz did not work it out 02:18 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 -!- johno [~johno@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 < johno> bla 02:20 < courtc> bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla? bla bla bla 02:20 < aegray> haha it worked! 02:20 < courtc> did it really? 02:20 < courtc> nice 02:20 < aegray> i didn't get a word of anything 02:20 < aegray> finally 02:21 * aegray happy 02:21 < johno> PRIVMSG #ipodlinux :ACTION tester leaving 02:21 < aegray> weird 02:21 -!- johno [~johno@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:21 < courtc> somebody can't read the rfc 02:22 < macpod> huh? 02:23 < aegray> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8093 <-- finding this pretty helpful if anyone is interested 02:23 < PoThEaD404> when will ipod linux work for 4g 02:23 < aegray> whats the url for the 4g countdown? 02:24 < macpod> When you stop touching yourself. 02:24 < aegray> hahahaha 02:24 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/4gcountdown/ 02:24 < aegray> haha he's added 02:25 < courtc> 724 days now. 02:25 < aegray> you guys got a while 02:27 -!- PoThEaD404 is now known as DaEhToP404 02:28 < macpod> Damnit, my analog voltmeter sucks... 02:28 < macpod> If I play line-level audio through the iPod it will not register it as ac/dc 02:29 < macpod> no amperage either.. and to add to that the ohm meter says there is 25 ohms resistance is getting through 02:30 -!- DaEhToP404 is now known as PoThEaD404 02:30 < aegray> creative... 02:32 < PoThEaD404> what the newst build of vipdzilla 02:32 < courtc> don't know, don't care 02:32 < macpod> It's not supported and saying it here is a sin. 02:33 < PoThEaD404> oh shit 02:35 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDE94A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 02:37 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:41 < courtc> aegray, how's that piezo thang working out 02:41 < aegray> haven't checked 02:41 < aegray> you pm? 02:41 < courtc> i did 02:41 < aegray> cool! 02:41 < aegray> /ignore *courtc* priv 02:49 < CIA-4> yorgle * tools/podzilla/poddraw.c: 02:49 < CIA-4> Added color. 02:49 < CIA-4> clear screen now clears to the current color. 02:49 < CIA-4> The current draw pixel color is always displayed in the top left. 02:49 < CIA-4> Fixed indenting to be consistant with other modules. 02:49 < BleuLlama> are you ignoring CIA also? 02:49 < aegray> no everyone is unignored now 02:49 < BleuLlama> ah 02:51 < BleuLlama> i know that everyone has been itching for that update 02:51 * BleuLlama thinking about how to save images 02:52 * BleuLlama considers always saving out the image on exit 02:52 < aegray> images? 02:52 < BleuLlama> from pod draw 02:52 < aegray> ah 02:52 < BleuLlama> it'd be dirt simple to add in a PNM saver 02:52 < aegray> vector graphics? 02:52 < courtc> haha 02:53 < BleuLlama> PGM for grayscale images, PPM for color 02:53 < BleuLlama> fuck it. 02:53 * BleuLlama goes to code in a simple PNM saver 03:02 < Capso> Courtc: Hey. 03:02 < courtc> what broke? 03:02 < BleuLlama> is there a nanox function to read the value of a pixel from the screen? 03:02 < courtc> BleuLlama, not in the api 03:03 < Capso> Courtc: Do you still want me to test what you were working on? 03:03 < BleuLlama> augh. how can you have set_pixel() but not get_pixel() 03:03 < courtc> Capso, nah.. it has a few bugs I need to fix. 03:04 < aegray> rewrite the program so it saves when it writes 03:04 < BleuLlama> yeah. think i'm gonna have to do that 03:04 < BleuLlama> or figure out GrReadArea() 03:05 < Capso> Courtc: Whenever you'd like for me to test/check it out, well, you know the eMail. :) 03:05 < Capso> ?WINDOW 3 03:05 < Capso> Fsck. 03:05 < Capso> IRSSI, how thee tortureth me. 03:06 < aegray> ?WINDOW 297 03:06 < aegray> shit 03:06 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/mwin/microwin/nxapi/nxstruct_GR_PIXELVAL.html <-- fun 03:07 < Capso> Heh. 03:17 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E032.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:45 < courtc> you guys'll like this one 03:45 < aegray> damn straight! 03:46 < courtc> yo, CIA-4 03:46 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/podzilla/ (mlist.c mlist.h): added sliding transition to static menus 03:46 < aegray> very nice! 03:46 < courtc> :) 03:46 < aegray> nice work man 03:47 < aegray> haha the scrollbar moves - i love it 03:47 < courtc> should it not? 03:48 < aegray> no it looks great 03:48 < aegray> never thought about it 03:48 < aegray> it looks good that way - looks like the whole screen is moving 03:48 < courtc> fear me apple (or hire me!) 03:48 < aegray> hehe 03:48 < aegray> you keep going: 03:48 < aegray> (hire me - please???) 03:49 < CIA-4> yorgle * tools/podzilla/poddraw.c: Automatically saves the image when you return to the menu. 03:49 < aegray> haha cool 03:49 < courtc> dev team busy tonight 03:49 * aegray lazy 03:49 < BleuLlama> granted,i it saves them out as ascii PPM files... which are huge 03:49 < BleuLlama> but it works 03:49 < aegray> cool 03:49 < BleuLlama> they're easily converted into *ANYTHING* else 03:50 < aegray> anyone know what ioremap_nocache does? 03:50 < BleuLlama> dude. 03:50 < BleuLlama> that looks fucking awesome 03:50 < courtc> a small save/discard menu would be sweet. 03:50 < BleuLlama> yeah. 03:51 < aegray> courtc - amazing 03:51 < aegray> and the cutified menu looks great too 03:51 < BleuLlama> cutified? 03:51 * aegray bows to courtc 03:51 < aegray> check the cvs logs 03:51 < courtc> heh, glad you like it. 03:51 < courtc> 20 Jul 17:36 courtc 03:51 < courtc> tools/podzilla/usb.c 1.2 03:51 < courtc> cutesified 03:52 < BleuLlama> where is that? 03:52 < aegray> i love how it clicks into place! 03:52 < courtc> BleuLlama, shows up when you plug in usb 03:53 < BleuLlama> ah. 03:53 -!- sllp [~sleepy@65.124.105.148] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 < BleuLlama> whoa. 03:54 < BleuLlama> desktop build, hitting 'q' from a nested menu unravels all of the menus and exits. looks snazzy 03:55 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has joined #ipodlinux 03:56 < courtc> heh 03:56 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has quit [Client Quit] 03:57 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 < CIA-4> yorgle * tools/podzilla/poddraw.c: Fixed a few typos 03:59 < aegray> and... 03:59 < CIA-4> aegray * tools/podzilla/pz.c: Moved usbinit to startup. Removed usb prompt when usb is in at podzilla start. 04:00 -!- johnny999 [~jwaol@adsl-156-138-235.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 04:01 < courtc> nice 04:01 < courtc> cvs fight! 04:01 < courtc> I'm done 04:01 * aegray commits incomplete usb driver to win! 04:01 * aegray actually - not even started usb driver 04:01 < aegray> hehe 04:02 < BleuLlama> i'm still considering throwing together a simple piezo beeper sequencer 04:02 * courtc commits small mpdc filemagic textinput and i18n 04:02 < aegray> you cant put textinput in! 04:02 < aegray> you said it yourself 04:02 < courtc> ok, true.. 04:02 < aegray> and i18n isnt even started is it? 04:02 * aegray cuts down courtc 04:02 < aegray> hahaha 04:02 < courtc> it's done 04:02 < aegray> really? 04:03 < courtc> needs a new compiler 04:03 < aegray> oh the _( 04:03 < courtc> yup... 04:03 < aegray> the cached menus - try changing appearance...erm nm 04:03 < courtc> hmm.. 04:04 < aegray> if you press menu after changing the appearance, it shows the old scheme in the slide, then updates 04:04 < aegray> big deal 04:04 < courtc> yea, I can fix it.. 04:04 * aegray trying to help courtc win cvs fight 04:05 < aegray> sorry if i'm a dick 04:05 < BleuLlama> does that usb stuff work on 4g? 04:05 < aegray> yea 04:05 < courtc> nono, Its actually not bad.. 04:05 < BleuLlama> how? 04:05 < aegray> it just checks the connection 04:05 < aegray> it doesn't have a usb driver yet 04:05 < aegray> and its not a kernel alert yet either 04:05 < BleuLlama> i'm not seeing anything with usb connected or not 04:05 < aegray> usb.c 04:05 < aegray> and pz.c 04:06 < aegray> its in the battery_tid event 04:06 < aegray> it's* 04:09 -!- zack_ [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:17 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/podzilla/mlist.c: refresh transition if color sheme is changed 04:17 < courtc> sheme? 04:17 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:18 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E115.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 04:21 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 04:23 -!- Surferdude [~Surferdud@pcp09708992pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:25 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has joined #ipodlinux 04:25 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-196-125.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:26 < onglipo> hi; i need some help with install for a photo (fat formatted) from fc3 04:27 < courtc> I need some shiny new shoes. 04:27 < onglipo> the dd command doesnot see my /dev/sda 04:27 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:27 -!- BrianGriffin [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:28 < courtc> doesn't see /dev/sda , or /dev/sda1? 04:28 < aegray> whats the error? 04:28 < onglipo> no media 04:28 < aegray> what does fdisk /dev/sda say? 04:28 < onglipo> /bin/dd: opening `/dev/sdb': No medium found 04:28 < aegray> are you sure thats the device its on? 04:28 < onglipo> my desktop shows IPOD (mounted on /media 04:29 < courtc> please not umod. 04:29 < onglipo> i tried unmounting - still same error 04:29 < aegray> are you sure sdb is the right device? 04:30 < courtc> mount | grep /media 04:30 < onglipo> yup : here's what /proc/scsi/scsi says: 04:30 < aegray> oh so help me... 04:30 < onglipo> Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 04:30 < onglipo> Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.62 04:30 < onglipo> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 04:31 < courtc> *sigh* is it mountd? 04:31 < aegray> #ipodlinux.sigh - comon now 04:32 < onglipo> no; i umounted it 04:33 < aegray> fdisk /dev/sdb 04:33 < aegray> what does that say? 04:33 < onglipo> Unable to open /dev/sdb 04:34 < aegray> mount it again 04:34 < aegray> you can browse it fine? 04:34 < onglipo> while it was mounted - yes 04:35 < courtc> and it was mounted from /dev/sdb and not /dev/ipod or something equally stupid? 04:36 -!- sllp [~sleepy@65.124.105.148] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:36 < onglipo> /dev/sde2 on /media/IPOD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,iocharset=utf8,fscontext=system_u:object_r:removable_t,user=dp) 04:37 < aegray> ok fdisk /dev/sde 04:37 < onglipo> hmm- thanks guys 04:37 < aegray> good 04:39 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.131.8.36.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:41 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:42 * macpod burns capacitors 04:42 < aegray> fun 04:42 < macpod> I hope I get this stuff straigthened out soon... Hardware gives me headaches 04:43 < macpod> and makes money go out of my pockets.. 04:43 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 04:43 < courtc> play with sliding menus for a few minutes, it'll make you feel better ;) 04:44 < macpod> like in the apple os? 04:44 < aegray> yea! 04:44 < macpod> hmn, I remember reading a review somewhere and that is what IPL was praised for... the lack of that 04:44 < aegray> haha 04:44 < aegray> make it a setting 04:44 < macpod> Guess you can't make everyone happy 04:45 < courtc> but you can! thats what settings are for! 04:46 < macpod> hrm.. I've noticed some interesting coding styles here 04:46 < aegray> where? 04:47 < macpod> There are those who do stuff in the optimal way first, those who do it to get it done, then those who do it the quick way, and then go back and do it the optimal way. 04:47 < courtc> who does wht? 04:47 < aegray> and those of us who do it wrong the first time 04:47 < macpod> There you have it, people categorized in 3 groups 04:47 < aegray> which code are you looking at? 04:48 < macpod> That 4th category does not count for people... 04:48 < macpod> Podzilla and the kernel 04:48 < macpod> *podzilla 04:48 < courtc> who does what? 04:48 < macpod> I'm not saying. 04:48 < courtc> I wanna know! 04:49 < macpod> You'll just have to find out for yourself then :) 04:49 < courtc> which am I? 04:49 < Prot> I'm one of those who do it in the quick way and don't go back 04:49 < aegray> if your talking about the usb thing its going to be removed once i have a driver 04:50 < macpod> No, you are in the 5th category, the leeches 04:50 < aegray> eek 04:50 < macpod> I'm not talking about you ae 04:50 < courtc> @Prot 04:50 < aegray> oh 04:50 < courtc> You won't offend me, I want to know. Which am I? 04:50 < Prot> leach dont create for himself 04:51 < macpod> Although you know what category you fit in ae.. which is actually pretty good. Especially in the business world 04:51 * courtc likes being profiled 04:51 < macpod> http://quizilla.com/users/MIT-Quizzer/quizzes/What%20programming%20language%20are%20you%3F/ 04:51 < courtc> I have no clue which is why I am asking. 04:52 < Prot> Looks like that MIT Education of yours really pays for itself 04:52 < macpod> You are the type who gets stuff done in what you beleive is the optimal way but as a consequence it takes longer. 04:53 < Prot> thats gotta suck 04:53 * macpod feels himself shutout by his pseudo peers 04:54 < courtc> haha.. 04:54 < courtc> yea, I'm slow as hell 04:54 < aegray> you got todays thing done pretty quick 04:54 < macpod> But how long has he been sitting on them? 04:55 < aegray> just today i think 04:55 < aegray> unless he's been deceiving us... 04:55 < macpod> He is more like a duck. Harmless and sits on eggs of code. 04:55 * aegray eyes courtc 04:55 < aegray> hehe 04:55 -!- Flik [~flik@d205-250-152-214.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 04:57 < courtc> haha.. the dialog went: " I'm bored, what should I code?" " sliding menus" " that'd be hard as hell" ... " actually.. maybe not" ... "*courtc codes sliding menus" 04:57 < aegray> that was a good convo 04:58 < courtc> yea, I have a bunch of code sitting around :/ 04:58 < courtc> sliding menus wasn't in it. 05:00 < courtc> ls ~/ipodlinux/podzilla+* :: podzilla+about podzilla+color podzilla+fonts podzilla+i18n podzilla+m podzilla+magic podzilla+mpdc podzilla+small podzilla+small2 podzilla+themes podzilla+ti 05:00 < courtc> :/ 05:01 < courtc> I get lost in my ipodlinux dir 05:01 < courtc> its like an enchanted forest, never know what you'll happen upon.. 05:03 < aegray> hehe: i get lost more: 05:03 < aegray> ls -m -d podzilla+*/ 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+2g//, podzilla+2gpowerfix//, podzilla+batFix//, podzilla+batteryMeter//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+current//, podzilla+dmatests//, podzilla+fiqrewritevid//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+fixItunes//, podzilla+iboy//, podzilla+oneProcAudio//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+oneProcBuffer//, podzilla+sleep//, podzilla+tempConv//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+textInput//, podzilla+ti3//, podzilla+ti3.2//, podzilla+ti3.3//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+ti3.4//, podzilla+usbdetect//, podzilla+videoV2//, 05:03 < aegray> podzilla+videowaudiothread//, podzilla+videoWAudioV1// 05:03 < aegray> whoops 05:03 < aegray> sorry i thought that was one line 05:05 < courtc> geez, learn to consolidate. 05:05 < aegray> i know 05:06 < courtc> you use + too? I thought I was the only one who thought it made more sense. 05:06 < aegray> i copied you when you said that last time 05:06 < courtc> "You're C. Clean and to the point" well f'ing imagine that ;) 05:06 < aegray> hehe 05:08 < courtc> not opinionated at all: http://quizilla.com/cgi-bin/result/list/list.pl :/ 05:08 -!- Lord_Nightmare is now known as LordN_Away 05:09 < Prot> I heard somewhere by someone that self-quizzes are completely worthless 05:09 < courtc> because you can alter your outcome by lying to yourself. 05:10 < Prot> quite 05:11 -!- [Hostile] [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 < macpod> Woo! sucess.. finally got the damn preamp to work 05:11 < macpod> I still need to boost the power however 05:12 < Prot> cool, keep us updated 05:16 -!- zack_ [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:17 -!- zack_ [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:23 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:24 < courtc> BleuLlama, are you doeing anything with th piezo tonoght? 05:25 -!- Tonkajds_ [~jesse@dialup-4.159.234.176.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:33 -!- Tonkajds_ [~jesse@dialup-4.159.234.176.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["later"] 05:36 -!- BrianGriffin is now known as TheDingo 05:37 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:41 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.131.8.36.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:53 * meatmanek suddenly wants to learn ARM assembly 05:53 < aegray> eek 05:54 < meatmanek> eh, I've messed with x86 asm before 05:54 < courtc> x86 asm != arm asm 05:54 < meatmanek> I know. 05:54 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:55 < meatmanek> my point is that I'm not really afraid of assembly. 05:55 < aegray> try it - its not really that different 05:55 < courtc> you should be 05:55 < aegray> haha 05:56 < meatmanek> I don't learn ASM to program with 05:56 < meatmanek> learning x86 ASM deepened my understanding of C, though. 05:58 < courtc> erm then if you don't plan to use it and you already know how the pipeline works I don't see a reason to learn it.. :/ 06:00 < meatmanek> it can't hurt, and I've got plenty of time on my hands. 06:00 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-196-125.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 < courtc> it *can* hurt.. asm hurts my brain all the time. 06:01 < courtc> do I ever say 2 serious things in a row? 06:02 -!- [Hostile] [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:02 < meatmanek> [00:24:11] BleuLlama, are you doeing anything with th piezo tonoght? 06:02 < meatmanek> [00:54:24] x86 asm != arm asm 06:02 < EvilDude> seems joystiq / engadget presumably too have caught on to the gb emu :) 06:02 < meatmanek> they're a half an hour apart but you said them in a row in this channel 06:02 < courtc> I'm not much of a conversationiser 06:02 < aegray> EvilDude - thats not real - it was made up 06:02 < EvilDude> ah thats alright then :P 06:03 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:03 < EvilDude> how's the gb emu going now? 06:03 < courtc> EvilDude, been watching the cvs ml? 06:03 < EvilDude> yep :) 06:03 < EvilDude> sliding!! :D :D 06:03 < courtc> :) 06:03 < EvilDude> About to try it out in a few seconds actually :) booting up my vmware 06:04 < courtc> don't think it's in anon yet :/ 06:04 < EvilDude> ah damn :( 06:04 < EvilDude> can i have a binary please :) 06:04 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/podzilla 06:04 < EvilDude> cool thanks 06:05 < Hostile> whats he gonna try? 06:05 < courtc> that has no mp3, and a piezo toy 06:05 < courtc> menu transition sliding 06:05 < Hostile> oh 06:05 < courtc> (like apple) 06:06 < Hostile> ugh Im trying to get homebrew running on my dreamcast 06:06 < Hostile> no luck. 06:06 < EvilDude> wow smoothness = 100 * apple's smoothness :) 06:06 < meatmanek> hehehehehee 06:06 < meatmanek> http://www.heyrick.co.uk/software/program.html 06:06 < aegray> i think i know why 06:07 < aegray> maybe 06:07 < meatmanek> read #6 06:07 < EvilDude> hm I think it needs to be a bit faster courtc 06:07 < courtc> I think apple uses 8 steps I use 16 06:07 < EvilDude> maybe its coz 3g speed = crap =\ 06:07 < EvilDude> ah ok 06:07 < courtc> yea, on the 4g it goes rather fast. 06:07 < aegray> and they possibly have the clock speed run down 06:08 < EvilDude> Yeah I blame 3g being 1/2 the 4g 06:08 < courtc> how long does it take? 06:08 < aegray> 12 minutes 06:09 < EvilDude> lol i'll time 06:09 < EvilDude> about half a second 06:11 < EvilDude> *plugs in dock to see if disk mode menu comes up* 06:12 < EvilDude> hm interesting, I dont think it's showing me the usb disk mode menu thing 06:12 < EvilDude> well it is in firewire =\ but should it work? 06:12 < aegray> no - only 4g and above too :/ 06:12 < aegray> and only usb for now 06:13 < EvilDude> ah :( 06:13 < EvilDude> I really should get a 4g :( 06:13 < EvilDude> heh i lose on both accounts :P 06:13 < aegray> haha 06:13 < courtc> sliding default on or off? 06:14 < aegray> i say on 06:14 < EvilDude> on :D 06:15 < EvilDude> any chance dynamic menus can have them or would it be too hard to make them slide? 06:15 < courtc> cant yet.. 06:16 < courtc> a dynamic menu is created after the screen gets drawn, so no sliding :/ 06:16 < EvilDude> yeah I meant is it possible 06:16 < EvilDude> or not worth it 06:16 < aegray> can we change when it gets created? 06:16 < EvilDude> haha that's a problem 06:17 < courtc> you can make a function that gets called when it is done creating it or when it has at least a screenful of items 06:17 < EvilDude> hm 06:20 < aegray> where is kmalloc defined? 06:21 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.159.234.176.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:22 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 06:22 < Tonkajds> good evening all 06:25 < Tonkajds> i have a question about tuxchess 06:26 < meatmanek> I think it's time for bed. 06:26 < meatmanek> 'night folks. 06:27 < Tonkajds> can someone explain to me why the cursor was removed from the game? Also it seems that the last game feature does not play right anyone know why? Is this a known bug? 06:30 -!- F-F_ is now known as F-F_^hmf^ 06:30 < CIA-4> courtc * tools/podzilla/ (ipod.c ipod.h mlist.c menu.c): added option for sliding transition 06:35 < courtc> I think that's enough for today. 06:35 < courtc> 'night 06:35 < aegray> night 06:42 -!- Tonkajds [jesse@dialup-4.159.234.176.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has quit ["later"] 06:48 < bomg31> hey gray, i was trying to hack away at the video code to get some audio workin' any suggestion where to start? 06:49 -!- Nappers [~root@210-54-157-61.adsl.inspire.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 < aegray> heh - what are you thinking? 06:50 < aegray> filereading -> cpu thread display->cpu thread frame buffering -> cop main audio fiq->cop reading from sdram 06:50 < bomg31> well i'm not quite sure, i mean i actually wanted to expand it all out to support like mov's and mpg's too 06:50 < aegray> that sums it up 06:50 < bomg31> alright, i'll see what i can do and report back, wish me luck 06:50 < aegray> haha good luck - moving that stuff is a large task 06:51 < bomg31> oh i know, its going to be pretty just yet, but it might work... erm... sort of... lol 06:51 < bomg31> **not 06:51 < aegray> if you want to add in mov and mpg - look up the file formats and decoding libraries and i'll work on it with you 06:51 < aegray> i just picked the easiest standard and went with it 06:52 < bomg31> oh i agree, lemme see about mov first, considering it is an apple ipod 06:52 < aegray> haha 06:54 < bomg31> have you ever looked at the xbox media center code? 06:54 < aegray> nope 06:54 < aegray> haven't looked at too much other code 06:55 < aegray> i'm pretty lazy 06:55 < bomg31> haha, well they have an interesting thing setup, they have it so you can add in pretty much ANY codec just by putting it into a "Codecs" folder, basically it lets you add support for lots of formats and the code is simpler all it does it figure out which codec to use and try and find it in the codecs list, if it can't find it, it tells you you need to download the codec for "blahblah" encoding type 06:57 -!- zack_|home [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:57 -!- zack_ [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:57 < EvilDude> they use mplayer ;) 06:57 < Mac64> plop 06:57 < aegray> the main thing we're interested in is how the encoding stores the frames (audio and video) and how they are decoded 06:57 -!- Nappers [~root@210-54-157-61.adsl.inspire.net.nz] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:57 < aegray> if we can create a program on our own (none of their libraries) that extracts frames as images and wav data, we can put it in on the ipod (in general) 06:58 < aegray> god i need to stop being lazy and just rewrite this 06:58 < bomg31> agreed, do we know exactly how much the ipod can handle, (i mean some of these formats can be pretty hefty proccesor hogs) 06:59 < aegray> no we don't - thats the problem. In its current state, the video player is pretty sloppy 06:59 < aegray> a lot can be done to improve things 06:59 < aegray> plus when we figure out dma ... :) 06:59 < bomg31> haha exactly ;) 06:59 < bomg31> yeah ive been looking at it since last night and it like i said it may not be pretty but it does technically work 07:00 < bomg31> the other thing is the whole "ipod will freeze if you try to load two videos in a row" 07:00 < aegray> thats probably just bad initialization of variables 07:00 < aegray> everything needs to be reset on start 07:00 < aegray> and i don't think i'm doing that 07:00 < bomg31> yeah that's what i was thinking, re-initialize all the buffers and crap 07:01 < aegray> i almost guarantee that fixes any problems there 07:02 < bomg31> yep, i have to say i'm less than impressed with the ipod's computing capabilities to begin with, lol 07:02 -!- onglipo [~ong@61.246.48.63] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:02 < bomg31> like we could code it beautifully but i'm not so sure the pod would react accordingly 07:02 < aegray> it could still be a lot better than it is 07:03 < aegray> stuff needs to be taken out of the kernel 07:03 < bomg31> yeah, id love to see the interface react kind of like quicktime-fullscreen on os x 07:03 < aegray> how's that? 07:03 * aegray doesn't have osx 07:03 < bomg31> oh sorry 07:03 < bomg31> well like whenever any key is pressed a small transparent overlay is shown (fades in) at the bottom of the screen 07:04 < bomg31> it shows position in the file, and some choices like (play, fast-forward, rewind, stop) 07:04 < aegray> in its current state that is pretty difficult - all the frames are ready for display ahead of time 07:04 < aegray> but we could add in a mask 07:04 < aegray> in the display function 07:05 < bomg31> yeah i don't know though can we draw transparent graphics with the current system? 07:05 < aegray> what system? 07:05 < aegray> i'm just writing to hardware 07:05 < bomg31> like ya know the way we currently draw stuff to the screen can it support transparency 07:05 < bomg31> yeah 07:05 < bomg31> is there an alpha value in there anywhere? 07:05 < aegray> so if you and pixels or whatever 07:06 < aegray> no - its not possible through hardware 07:06 < aegray> we'd have to or the pixels or something (however you usually do transparency 07:06 < aegray> ) 07:06 < bomg31> yeah well i mean, for the time being a mask would work, at least center all the code for overlays (like menus and such while the vid is playing) in once block of code 07:07 < aegray> yea 07:07 < bomg31> and then try and clean up the current code before any other formats are added, and i agree about moving it out of the kernel, i had to update my kernel just so my videos wouldn't look all hippy-fied 07:08 < aegray> that would have happened anyway 07:08 < aegray> that was a kernel fix 07:08 < bomg31> oh, well nvm then, lol 07:09 < aegray> i'm just gonna set something up where you can provide a function pointer somewhere in iRam and the cop will read it and execute that function 07:09 < bomg31> hey there's an idea 07:09 < aegray> then we can have all the video player code in one file 07:09 < bomg31> good thinkin' ;) 07:10 < bomg31> (wishful thinking) is there anyway we could ever get a version of mplayer running inside ipl? (i know it'd be a heap of work, but that would definently solve all of media problems) 07:10 < aegray> yea maybe - it would probably be easier to just use any decoding libraries 07:10 < aegray> because i don't really want to port something made for one processor to work across 2 07:11 * aegray lazy 07:11 < bomg31> agreed, no one wants that job 07:11 < aegray> haha 07:12 < bomg31> hey so what was all the audio code i saw in video.c? lol 07:13 < aegray> haha - yea try it out :/ 07:13 < aegray> video_useAudio=1 07:13 < aegray> using a thread for it isn't any better 07:13 < bomg31> i tried to alter it a little last night but only managed to geta couple of "fashdliurhsdafsadfsacrsssssh" short sounds when the video started 07:13 < bomg31> like blips in an mp3 kinda of sounding 07:14 < aegray> i dunno about that one 07:14 < aegray> mine plays sound chopily from the file 07:14 < aegray> you probably had it encoded wrong 07:14 < aegray> it has to be raw pcd 07:14 < aegray> pcm* 07:14 < bomg31> ah i c, i think i had it in mp3 or something 07:14 < aegray> it plays with audio - audio is choppy and video churns to almost a halt 07:14 < bomg31> yeah the video was skipping alot when i tried it 07:15 < aegray> hehe your inspiring me to actually work on this 07:15 < bomg31> haha, well good, i'm glad to help in whatever way i can 07:16 < bomg31> basically i'm interested because i want watch a video on my ipod before steve and co. release their own vidPod 07:16 < aegray> which is supposedly what - september? 07:16 < bomg31> s'waht i hear 07:16 < bomg31> *what 07:17 < bomg31> plus i think having an open standard for media on the ipod is a MUCH better idea than all that closed up secrecy 07:17 < aegray> haha 07:17 < aegray> my internship ends august something or other - maybe 15th - then i work on it a ton 07:17 < aegray> but till then nights go to it 07:17 < aegray> i just need to be motivated to work on this and not something else 07:18 < bomg31> understood, i love apple with all my heart, i think their brilliant, but their just too darn selfish with the code for all those pretty things, lol 07:18 < bomg31> *they're 07:18 < aegray> haha 07:18 < aegray> yea 07:18 < aegray> plus if we can push they're hardware further than they'll allow - its fun! 07:19 < bomg31> oh heck yeah 07:22 < bomg31> oh another thing to (add to the inevitbly long list) of todo is maybe some kind of front end (ala the ipl installer style) for encoding videos for the different models 07:23 < bomg31> just to make the whole process a little less scary 07:23 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:23 < aegray> yep 07:23 < aegray> shouldn't be that bad 07:23 < bomg31> nah just reference all the mencoder options or some such 07:24 < aegray> yep 07:30 < bomg31> how what -oac option for mencoder should i use to try an encode the avi file with audio? 07:30 < aegray> oac raw i think 07:30 < bomg31> yeah that's what i tried but no luck 07:30 < aegray> pcm 07:31 < bomg31> kk 07:34 < bomg31> well if it helps at all the first time i stepped into the code i was able to understand it rather easily given the compicatedness of what we're trying to do here, lol 07:34 < aegray> hehe - its really not that bad - just a big bunch of code 07:35 < bomg31> yeah i mean i was scared to even look at ipl for a long time now i see its not so bad ;) 07:35 < aegray> hehe 07:36 < bomg31> hey any reason you've got 'video_vol_delta' instead of the 'audio_adjustVolume(int)' function? 07:37 < aegray> i dunno - didn't go into depth on it - it was so you can set the change amount inside an event handler and adjust it later 07:37 < bomg31> ok cool, i just didn't want to change something and have whole thing break on me :) 07:37 < aegray> i don't think it will 07:37 < bomg31> k 07:37 < aegray> only thing that would really break is if you changed the cop or kernel side stuff 07:38 < bomg31> yeah, don't worry not there quite yet 07:38 < aegray> other than that, changing it shouldnt' be too bad (as long as the changes aren't that sweeping) 07:38 < bomg31> yeah 07:38 < bomg31> haha i can't believe i'm testing this with on old episode of teenage mutant ninja turtles 07:38 < bomg31> *an 07:38 < aegray> haha 07:39 < aegray> basically, the whole function buffer_frames is going to be run on the cop continuously - theres going to be a thread that just loops and reads in filedata into memory 07:39 < aegray> and then a new display function 07:39 < bomg31> oh that's a good idea 07:39 < bomg31> shift the load 07:40 < bomg31> hopefully that will speed things up slightly, like when seeking 07:40 < aegray> i did some tests - displaying stuff while reading in a file with a thread 07:40 < aegray> it barely effected display 07:40 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.243] has joined #ipodlinux 07:40 < bomg31> hmmn well still it will be nicer this way 07:40 < sl_n_> hey guys 07:40 < aegray> hi 07:41 < sl_n_> got some q's bout ipl.. 07:41 < aegray> i got some p's 07:41 < bomg31> ha 07:41 < sl_n_> thank you.. 07:41 < aegray> ask away 07:41 < sl_n_> what does 'malloc failed' mean? 07:41 < bomg31> the sky is falling 07:41 < sl_n_> i got ipl working, was all excited, and that happens on most of the songs.. :( 07:41 < aegray> it means that our current playback buffering sucks and it tries to copy in the whole song into memory 07:41 < aegray> and when the song is too big, this fails 07:41 < aegray> it will be fixed 07:42 < aegray> in due time 07:42 < sl_n_> damn.. cos i have heaps of albums as single songs :'( 07:42 < aegray> apple_os for now 07:42 < sl_n_> but it happens to some of the normal songs..? 07:42 < bomg31> yeah they will *eventually* work 07:42 < aegray> once we get mpd, it will work great 07:42 < sl_n_> but my apple os doesn't work! 07:42 < sl_n_> haha 07:42 < aegray> ahha 07:42 < sl_n_> ok, cool 07:42 < sl_n_> how long? 07:42 < aegray> i dunno 07:42 -!- zack_|home [Zachary@adsl-67-112-202-152.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:42 < aegray> its like 80% done 07:42 < sl_n_> cool 07:42 < aegray> it needs to have a few issues worked out 07:42 < sl_n_> do i need to know C# to help? 07:43 < bomg31> ipl is all 'c' 07:43 < sl_n_> darn 07:43 < aegray> C# - thats microsofts .net platform 07:43 < sl_n_> i don't know that either 07:43 < sl_n_> ok, cool 07:43 < bomg31> if ipl was in C# we'd all be alot angrier, lol 07:43 < aegray> haha 07:43 < sl_n_> :P 07:43 < aegray> and it wouldnt run 07:43 < bomg31> oh yeah that too 07:43 < sl_n_> fair enough 07:43 < sl_n_> cool how a 30 yr old prog. code still does new stuff today 07:44 < aegray> thats because its great :) 07:44 < bomg31> oh yeah c isn't going anywhere, lol 07:44 < sl_n_> lots of ppl in here 07:44 < sl_n_> but theres like 4 people talking.. 07:44 < sl_n_> does that mean they're watching us? 07:45 < aegray> oooo yes 07:45 < aegray> stalkers 07:45 < sl_n_> man i hate big brother 07:45 < bomg31> hey gray, any ideas on how we could display the audio volume during video playback, lack another slider or what? 07:45 < bomg31> **like 07:45 < sl_n_> perhaps a vertical one? 07:45 < aegray> we would do it just like we do the current one 07:45 < aegray> moving left + right would adjust volume, 07:46 < aegray> click and you can seek 07:46 < bomg31> k, make the volume look like the current seek then? 07:46 < sl_n_> oh, how do you turn off the ipod? 07:46 < aegray> kinda 07:46 < sl_n_> i can turn mine off, but it just boots again 07:46 < aegray> once i get it to a good point, i'll make it all look better 07:46 < bomg31> what would be cool is display the time below the seekbar 07:46 < aegray> sl_n - you can't right now 07:46 < aegray> well 07:46 < aegray> you can 07:46 < aegray> if you update a lot of stuff 07:46 < bomg31> yeah 07:46 < sl_n_> oh.. :( 07:47 < sl_n_> how long has it been in development? 07:47 -!- sl_n_ is now known as slink 07:47 < aegray> a little bit 07:47 < aegray> its in the kernel 07:47 < aegray> it works 07:47 < aegray> you just have to update some stuff 07:47 < aegray> it all works :() 07:47 < slink> can i find the updates on ipodlinux.org? 07:47 < aegray> not yet 07:47 < aegray> actually 07:48 < slink> :( 07:48 < slink> where then? 07:48 < aegray> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/downloads/beta/ 07:48 < slink> (Y) 07:48 < aegray> update - busybox, and initrc 07:48 < aegray> initrd* 07:48 < slink> not found? 07:48 < aegray> and a few other things 07:48 < aegray> sorry 07:48 < aegray> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/ 07:48 * aegray not copying and pasting 07:49 < slink> oOoO stuff :D 07:49 < slink> what do i get? 07:50 < aegray> are you on windows? 07:50 < slink> ya 07:50 < aegray> ok - i don't have time to help you tonight 07:50 < aegray> gotta wake up in 4 hours 07:50 < slink> lol.. ok 07:50 < aegray> come back on another time and i'll help 07:50 < slink> (Y) thanks 07:50 < aegray> ok bomg31 - if you wanna email me - its aegray@ipodlinux.org 07:50 < bomg31> sweet 07:50 < aegray> or i'm always on here 07:50 < aegray> ALWAYS 07:51 < aegray> ok night 07:51 < slink> haha 07:51 < slink> nite 07:51 < bomg31> ha, yeah i'll be around alot 07:51 < bomg31> peace 07:51 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:51 < slink> i put a shortcut to this channel on my desktop (H) 07:51 < slink> :D 07:55 < slink> if i download a c code thingy, how do i apply to ipl? 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09:10 < Sereroku> ^^ 09:10 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.231] has joined #ipodlinux 09:10 < inemo> I can't seem to find one on the forums or wiki 09:10 < Sereroku> www.ipodlinux.org 09:10 < Sereroku> Documentation 09:11 < Pokeon> Does anyone here have turn off working? 09:11 < sl_n_> its still being made 09:11 < sl_n_> currently 'in the works' 09:12 < sl_n_> apparently around 80% done 09:12 < Pokeon> *blinks* I heard it working fine... if you have the right init and busybox stuff I just dont no how to install that 09:12 < sl_n_> yea, they are workin on an easy way 09:12 < sl_n_> sucks for me cos the apple os doesnt work on my ipod 09:13 < Pokeon> why is that? 09:13 < sl_n_> i screwed it up with ipodwizard 09:13 < sl_n_> and now the updater won't recognise my ipod 09:13 < bomg31> ok i got one for you guys 09:13 < Sereroku> Does anyone here have turn off working? <- me o.O 09:14 < Pokeon> hahaha so just downgrade your firmware version 09:14 < bomg31> is there some problem concerning the latest nightly kernel and the latest apple firmware? 09:14 < sl_n_> tried that 09:14 < sl_n_> the updator says 'ipod service error' 09:14 < sl_n_> won't let me format or anything 09:14 < Pokeon> Sereroku... could you give me a quick little tutorial 09:14 < Sereroku> for what? 09:14 < Pokeon> getting turn off working 09:14 < sl_n_> is there a way to get around the malloc failed error? 09:15 < Pokeon> mpd 09:15 < Sereroku> install the new kernel lol 09:15 < sl_n_> :( that doesn't work 09:15 < sl_n_> but i'll try anyway.. 09:15 < Pokeon> the updator says 'ipod service error' Doesnt that mean the iPod Service isnt running 09:15 < Sereroku> Sereroku... could you give me a quick little tutorial <- new kernel :P 09:16 < Pokeon> still dont work 09:16 < Sereroku> so i dont know :P 09:16 < sl_n_> pokeon: no, its an offline thing.. it should at least let me format, but i dunno.. i'll have to look into it more 09:16 < sl_n_> i didn't bother cos it was working 09:16 < Pokeon> it has the stuff to make it work but missing the poweroff app 09:16 < sl_n_> sereroku: whats the new kernel? 09:16 < Sereroku> cvs :p 09:17 < sl_n_> *sigh..* on way now 09:17 < Pokeon> iPod Service would be the service in windows for detecting an iPod... thast if your running windows 09:17 < bomg31> does anybody know what date the kernel was posted that fixed the video display on the ipod photo, (fixed the problem with inverted crazy colors)? 09:17 < sl_n_> pokeon: yea, you're right. any idea why it won't let me clear my ipod? 09:18 < bomg31> and if not, where (cvs?) could i obtain the code for the kernel to compile myself? 09:18 < Pokeon> just reinstall the iPod software and check adn see if it is running 09:18 < Pokeon> there hasnt been kernel changes in like a week or so 09:19 < Pokeon> okay more liek 4 days 09:19 < bomg31> k, well for some reason the only kernel i can get to boot on my photo is from june 9th, 05 09:19 < bomg31> or earlier 09:19 < bomg31> i think... 09:19 < sl_n_> i can only get july the 9th to boot 09:19 < sl_n_> getting the newest one now 09:19 < sl_n_> (today's) 09:19 -!- inemo [~inemo@81-178-13-208.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [] 09:20 < bomg31> its not a normal error though, like it just sticks on the apple logo with no backlight... 09:20 < Pokeon> Im runnign 20th one 09:20 < sl_n_> whats an .asc file? linux? 09:20 < bomg31> i've got no idea, i just got the tar 09:20 < bomg31> i was wondering that myself tho 09:20 < sl_n_> pokeon, what ipod you got? 09:20 < Pokeon> mini2g 09:21 < sl_n_> me too :D 09:21 < Appelmoes> bleh mini 09:21 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:21 < bomg31> hmmn its probably a 4g/photo prob for me then... 09:21 < Pokeon> there nice... they need more space... Im getting a new HDD for it this xmas 09:21 < sl_n_> we are like.. podbrothers 09:21 < sl_n_> goodbye warranty :P 09:21 < Appelmoes> 30gb ipod photo 09:21 < Pokeon> mine been gone since i started playing with iPodWizard before Linux was supported 09:21 < Appelmoes> just enough for me 09:21 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:21 < sl_n_> bastard 09:22 < sl_n_> lol.. nice :D 09:22 < sl_n_> aegray never leaves.. weird 09:22 < Pokeon> sl_n_ have you seen my build of podzilla 09:22 < Appelmoes> sl_n_: bnc or ssh + screen + irssi :) 09:22 < sl_n_> is it the pokemon one? not yet, sendy? :D 09:22 < Pokeon> its the Poke-Zilla one 09:22 < sl_n_> appelmoes: ? 09:23 < Appelmoes> so you are always online on irc :) 09:23 < sl_n_> not always this channel, but yea, most of the time 09:24 < sl_n_> pokeon: thanks :D 09:24 < Pokeon> sl_n_... everything sep dopeware is set to fit the mini screen size... well I tihnk its just dopewars that doesnt fit... I dont remember now 09:25 < sl_n_> ok coolies 09:25 < sl_n_> yours is the file i put on the 'pod, right 09:25 < Pokeon> you can just throw all the files in the zip on the ipod and boot in to linux and everything is 'installed' for you 09:26 < sl_n_> in the ipod's root? 09:26 < Pokeon> ya 09:26 < sl_n_> sweet 09:26 < sl_n_> is it worth trying the new kernel? 09:27 < Pokeon> alrdy try to have an updated kernel 09:27 < sl_n_> ok will do 09:30 < sl_n_> its bein a bastard 09:30 < Pokeon> how so? 09:30 < sl_n_> just has the apple logo for a sec, then has the folder with a danger sign next to it 09:30 < sl_n_> grr 09:30 < Pokeon> i hate it when it does that 09:30 < Appelmoes> boot failure :p 09:31 < sl_n_> yea, gathered that 09:31 < Pokeon> you just need to install the applefirmware and do the linux insall and it fixes it 09:31 < sl_n_> i'll try.. lol 09:33 < sl_n_> oooops ... :( i forgot to put the 'start' file on there 09:33 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 < Pokeon> lol 09:33 < sl_n_> new kernel works, using your zilla now, poke 09:33 < Pokeon> tell me what you think 09:34 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-196-125.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:35 < Pokeon> oh shit look at the time if my dad gets up im dead... laters guys 09:35 < sl_n_> ok, cya 09:35 < sl_n_> thanks for your help :D 09:35 < sl_n_> the zilla looks good :D! 09:37 < sl_n_> is it possible to use disk mode on a computer without ipod software installed? 09:37 < sl_n_> hey cool, the new kernel works better :D 09:38 < sl_n_> is anyone else here? 09:38 < hyarion> I am :) 09:38 < sl_n_> how come all my playlists have doubled? theres two of them now.. they multiply 09:38 < hyarion> thats strange 09:39 < sl_n_> yea, its annoying.. :( 09:39 < hyarion> what have you done? 09:39 < sl_n_> lol.. nothing i can think to provoke such a strange occurance 09:40 < hyarion> you must have done something :) 09:40 < sl_n_> ;) i don't know.. weird 09:40 < sl_n_> whats 'button debounce'? 09:42 < hyarion> have you tried google it? 09:42 < sl_n_> not yet.. doesn't bother me that much 09:43 < sl_n_> hahahaha awesome.. chopper is cool 09:43 < sl_n_> how do i get out of dopewars? :$ 09:44 < hyarion> never tried it 09:44 < hyarion> guess menu :) 09:44 < sl_n_> weird.. pressing menu doesn't work 09:44 < sl_n_> i just rebooted 09:47 < sl_n_> ok.. how do you get out of podwrite? 09:50 < sl_n_> i rebooted 09:50 < sl_n_> why is the default year 1970? 09:51 < hyarion> < sl_n_> ok.. how do you get out of podwrite? <-- flip the hold switch 09:52 < hyarion> what gen do you have? 09:52 < hyarion> 1? 09:52 < hyarion> 2? 09:52 < sl_n_> 2 09:52 < hyarion> there is no hardware clock on that one 09:52 < sl_n_> sure there is ;) 09:52 < sl_n_> i' 09:52 < sl_n_> i'm lookin at it 09:53 < hyarion> no i have a 2g myself 09:53 < sl_n_> and yours doesn't have a clock? 09:54 < hyarion> http://www.ipodlinux.org/FAQ#Will_I_lose_my_music.3F_Playlists.3F 09:54 < hyarion> not hardware 09:55 < sl_n_> wait.. what do you mean? 09:55 < sl_n_> are you saying that theres no clock all on the 2g ipod mini? 09:55 < sl_n_> or not one on the outside? 09:55 < hyarion> oh 09:55 < hyarion> is it a mini :) 09:55 < sl_n_> lol.. yea 09:56 < hyarion> then I have no idea 09:56 < sl_n_> yea, it has a clock 09:56 < hyarion> have only an oldish 09:57 < sl_n_> i'd gladly have an old one, if it meant having 20gigs.. 09:57 < sl_n_> lol 09:58 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:59 < hyarion> have only 10g 09:59 < hyarion> 10GB 10:00 < lgates> Anyone have an old ipodlinux firmware restore util 10:00 < lgates> pre june 26 10:02 < sl_n_> www.ipodlinux.org/bulids 10:02 < sl_n_> if its not there, then you're outta luck 10:02 < sl_n_> why you want an old one? 10:02 < lgates> the new one is not ipl compatable 10:02 < lgates> or gtkpod compatable 10:02 < lgates> so my ipod is totally useless to me 10:02 < sl_n_> oh.. :( 10:02 < sl_n_> what ipod you got? 10:02 < lgates> 4g 10:03 < lgates> i have compiled ipl on it many times. 10:03 < lgates> but i didnt see the memo warning about the new firmware and upgraded it 10:03 < sl_n_> ah.. 10:03 < hyarion> did you mean an old iPod (not ipl) firmware restore util? 10:03 < lgates> and now i have no way to go back to firmware version 1.4 10:03 < lgates> yes 10:03 < lgates> i want an old firmware restore util 10:03 < lgates> if somone has theri origional ipod disk or somthing 10:03 < hyarion> don't ask us for it! 10:03 < lgates> and could ftp it to me or emial it to me 10:03 < lgates> it would save my ipod 10:04 < hyarion> that's apple copyrighted, we can't send it to you 10:04 < lgates> yeah well its either ask here or give up on using my ipod.... 10:04 < lgates> yeah well so are a lot of thigns on the web 10:04 < lgates> i legally am allowed a copy 10:04 < lgates> i own an ipod 10:05 < sl_n_> so what do you want? an old version of the official firmware? 10:05 < lgates> i just ned the utility since apple took the old links down 10:05 < lgates> an old version of aples ipod restore utility 10:05 < sl_n_> why? 10:05 < sl_n_> the one i have doesn't work, i have the same issue as you 10:05 < lgates> so i can revert my ipod 10:05 < sl_n_> so i installed ipl on it, now it works good 10:06 < hyarion> lgates, answer on msgs goddamit :P 10:06 -!- sl_n_ is now known as slink 10:07 -!- mgla [~mgla@p508C6052.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:07 -!- slink is now known as sl_n_ 10:09 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.231] has quit [] 10:14 < lgates> :-( 10:14 * lgates whines for the loss of his pretty ipod 10:14 < lgates> Soembody has to put legality aside to pm me with an old windows apple firmware restore utility off a disk or somthing to save my ipod 10:16 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.231] has joined #ipodlinux 10:20 -!- Izz^ [~Si@81-86-10-49.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:23 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:25 < sl_n_> and the RAID lovers rejoice.. "array! array!" 10:26 < sl_n_> grr.. there needs to be a way to clear the ram on the ipod, i keep gettig 'malloc failed' :( 10:27 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:29 < lgates> ipodlinux 10:29 < lgates> doh 10:29 < sl_n_> damn.. now the search on the ipl site doesn't work 10:29 < sl_n_> you're in here ;) 10:30 < lgates> could anyone alive please /j #ipl-offtopic to help me? 10:31 < sl_n_> we are there 10:35 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 10:45 -!- tirs [tris@248.a.004.ade.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:45 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-208-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:47 < tirs> i am trying to copy files using my ipod between XP and Suse 9.3 - but when reading directories: Suse 9.3: (folders) Artists, Playlists, Utilities; XP (folders): Calendars, Contacts, Notes - is there a way to regulate directories? 10:50 -!- danalien is now known as TheGrimSqueaker 10:53 -!- jo_e [~joe@144.134.93.171] has joined #ipodlinux 10:55 -!- jo_e [~joe@144.134.93.171] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 10:58 -!- PoThEaD404 [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Well Be Back Just Got Disconnected By Router"] 10:59 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 11:04 -!- tirs [tris@248.a.004.ade.iprimus.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 11:07 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-196-125.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:09 < sl_n_> what the hell is a suse? 11:12 < Prot> means 'horse' in hebrew 11:13 < hyarion> its a linux dist 11:13 < hyarion> GNU/Linux even :) 11:26 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.231] has quit [] 11:28 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-73-114.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:46 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:57 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-73-114.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 11:59 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:03 -!- Bi-noix [~Ben@ivr94-3-82-226-13-213.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:27 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 12:39 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-73-114.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:39 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.228] has joined #ipodlinux 12:41 < sl_n_> could someone run me through turning off my ipod? 12:41 < petemc> hold down play/pause for a few seconds 12:42 < _KDE> lol _._ 12:42 < sl_n_> er 12:42 < sl_n_> no, in IPL 12:43 < petemc> not podzilla? 12:43 < sl_n_> IPL = ipodlinux 12:43 < petemc> yes, im aware 12:44 < sl_n_> i want to turn my ipod off. 12:44 < sl_n_> but it just boots again 12:45 < sl_n_> i know theres a way, but noone will tell me.. 12:47 < petemc> ive no idea, i havent ventured out of the safety of podzilla myself 12:49 < sl_n_> it IS podzilla 12:49 < sl_n_> and ONLY podzilla 12:49 < sl_n_> apple OS seems to have disappeared from it 12:49 < sl_n_> holding rewind does nothing 12:49 < sl_n_> damnit.. :( 12:50 < petemc> it will boot into ipl with any input 12:51 < petemc> so make sure its unlocked etc, restart it and dont touch it 12:53 < sl_n_> i do, goes into ipl. 12:53 < sl_n_> if i press rewind with the apple logo, it goes into ipl. 12:53 < sl_n_> if i press any number of key combinations, it goes into ipl 12:56 < hyarion> if you do nothing? 12:57 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:57 < sl_n_> if i do nothing, it linux-es 12:58 < hyarion> restart it into diskmode ond uninstall linux then :) 12:59 < sl_n_> sigh... i dont want to.. 12:59 < sl_n_> ok, how do i delete linux? 13:00 < hyarion> plug it in 13:00 < hyarion> restart the ipod 13:00 < sl_n_> its in disk mode now, with G: open 13:00 < sl_n_> (G: is my ipod) 13:00 < hyarion> run ipod updater 13:01 < hyarion> chose restore ipod 13:01 < hyarion> something like that 13:01 < sl_n_> i can't run it.. 13:01 < sl_n_> it says "iPod service error" 13:01 < hyarion> reboot your computer 13:01 < hyarion> :D 13:01 < sl_n_> lol.. its always had that problem 13:02 < sl_n_> i haven't been able to put new songs on for ages 13:03 < hyarion> check if there is a uninstall linux button in the ipl installer 13:04 < sl_n_> theres not 13:04 < sl_n_> i'll get the new iPod updateer thingy 13:11 < sl_n_> tomorrow.. 13:12 < sl_n_> hey cool! videos rock on an ipod mini (H) 13:16 < sl_n_> anyone out there? 13:18 < hyarion> no 13:19 < sl_n_> i figured out how to turn it off! :)) 13:20 < sl_n_> (went to diagnostic mode, and went to SleepShort. i did SleepLong once, took half an hour before it started up again) 13:24 -!- sl_n_ [sl__nk@203.34.190.228] has quit ["sleeeeep"] 13:46 -!- XPu [fhdfh@217.129.17.43] has joined #ipodlinux 13:47 -!- XPu [fhdfh@217.129.17.43] has quit [Client Quit] 13:51 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 13:57 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-73-114.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:10 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:17 < hyarion> aegray, do you have arm-elf-gcc 3.4.3? 14:18 < aegray> hold 14:18 < aegray> on 14:19 < aegray> no - 2.95.3 14:19 < hyarion> I'm missing a bunch of includes and libs from the toolchain 14:19 < hyarion> oh 14:19 < hyarion> :( 14:19 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 14:20 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:26 < hyarion> anyone else with 3.4.3? 14:28 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:29 -!- Mac64 [Mac64@apple-fr.com] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 14:29 < Z_Man> uuh oh 14:29 < Z_Man> netsplit 14:35 -!- Mac64 [Mac64@apple-fr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:40 -!- Flik [~flik@d205-250-152-214.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:43 < Jack_MD> hi aegray 14:44 < Jack_MD> aegray: I have a problem with video conversion and I didn't find a solution on the net 14:46 * hyarion pretends to be aegray 14:46 < hyarion> what is the problem? 14:46 * BleuLlama pretends to be hyarion 14:46 * BleuLlama plays sid tunes 14:46 < hyarion> wooo 14:46 < hyarion> :) 14:47 < Jack_MD> i am a macuser, and I compiled mencoder for osx 14:47 < hyarion> and? 14:47 < Jack_MD> mom 14:48 < Jack_MD> I tried the following: 14:48 < Jack_MD> mencoder -ovc raw -ofps 15 -nosound -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 in.avi -o out.avi 14:48 -!- garrett_ [~garrett@130.57.22.69] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 < Jack_MD> and all I got was a movie I could play, but I couldn't watch it.. 14:49 < Jack_MD> because the colors were.. 14:49 < Jack_MD> i can send you a test video.. 14:50 -!- Surferdude [~Surferdud@pcp09708992pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:50 < aegray> Jack_MD: update your kernel 14:50 < Jack_MD> ok 14:51 < Jack_MD> wait 14:52 < Jack_MD> oh, you may think it was the problem with the apple sw 1.1, but I used a kernel which has ha fix for that 14:53 < Jack_MD> I have the kernel from 2005-06-29 installed.. 14:54 < Jack_MD> okok, I'll update 14:58 -!- javyx [~javyx@213.202.217.164] has joined #ipodlinux 15:00 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 15:01 -!- eightballx [~eightball@host81-132-8-40.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:03 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:04 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 15:05 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:07 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-3593.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:12 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-3593.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 15:13 -!- Z_Man [~zacharyho@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:13 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-3593.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:13 < Jack_MD> aegray: doesn't function anyway 15:13 < aegray> huh? 15:13 < aegray> sorry - was on a call 15:14 < aegray> go over your problem again 15:14 -!- bLeW [~blew@142.163.161.6] has joined #ipodlinux 15:14 < Jack_MD> I converted a movie with with mencoder, used the parameters you wrote down on the wiki 15:15 < macpod> Jack you are a mac right? 15:15 < Jack_MD> well, I should send you an example.. 15:15 < aegray> are you on a mac? 15:15 < Jack_MD> macpod: like you, yeah 15:15 * aegray thanks macpod 15:15 < macpod> Just throwing it out, that's an important detail 15:16 < aegray> would there be endainness issues converting? 15:16 * aegray thought mencoder should handle that 15:16 < macpod> not with mencoder 15:16 < aegray> Jack_MD - whats wrong with the video? 15:17 < Jack_MD> as I wrote, I should send you an example... I'm searching for the free table tennis video, one moment please 15:18 < aegray> are the colors just messed up? 15:19 < Jack_MD> yeah, but that's not the problem with apple sw1.1 15:19 < Jack_MD> 'cause I have the newest kernel I could get 15:19 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 < aegray> and your sure you have the newest kernel installed? 15:20 < Jack_MD> yes, I freshly installed it 2 minutes ago 15:20 < Jack_MD> ok, 4minutes ago 15:21 < eightballx> on my mini2 will the battery meter work? 15:21 < ScOrPiO-P> GO HerE http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2754 15:21 < aegray> should eightballx 15:21 < ScOrPiO-P> Jack_MD 15:21 < eightballx> how is usb coming along, i heard about some development on it? 15:22 < Jack_MD> battery meter? 15:22 < Jack_MD> is it working? 15:22 < Jack_MD> that's a surprise 15:23 < aegray> commited like a week ago 15:23 < aegray> hold on 15:23 < aegray> eightballx: looking at it - theres some little stuff in podzilla (blech) that detects usb insertation and asks if you want to reboot to diskmode 15:24 < Jack_MD> *grrr* can't find it.. 15:25 < Jack_MD> can you give me a link to another video? 15:25 < Jack_MD> which is not converted 15:25 < aegray> which is not? 15:26 < Jack_MD> not converted for the ipd 15:26 < Jack_MD> *ipod 15:26 < macpod> go to alltheweb.com 15:26 < aegray> just download one 15:26 < macpod> go to media 15:26 < macpod> then type something like cat.. 15:26 < macpod> or dog 15:26 < aegray> rabbit 15:27 < courtc> moose 15:27 < macpod> No. Forbidden. 15:28 < eightballx> ebaumsworld.com 15:31 < Jack_MD> found hijack.mpeg.. now I'll convert it with mencoder 15:32 < ScOrPiO-P> converting video 4 my iPod Photo was easy IN xp just made shortcuts to the H:\cygwin\home\Jamie\mplayer\mencoder.exe -ovc raw -ofps 15 -nosound -vf scale=220:-2,expand=220:176,format=bgr16 movie.Here.wmv -o movie.avi 15:32 < courtc> amazing. 15:32 < ScOrPiO-P> then just swaped this bit movie.Here.wmv to the name of my movie 15:32 < macpod> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/rubberjohnny.html 15:32 < macpod> convert that vid.. it's creepy 15:33 < hyarion> courtc- how did you install your toolchain? 15:33 < hyarion> where did you get it from? 15:33 < aegray> with a binary? 15:34 < eightballx> wtf? 15:34 < courtc> http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/m68k-elf-tools/gcc-3/uclinux-tools-20050221/ 15:34 < hyarion> m68k? 15:34 < BleuLlama> aah. it's a chris cunningham film 15:34 < BleuLlama> http://www.rubberjohnny.tv 15:35 < courtc> its for x86 linux 15:35 < macpod> I saw it muted the first time at night.. very creepy 15:35 -!- Troy^ [pb@CPE0050bac211e1-CM014260047635.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:35 < BleuLlama> same here 15:36 < BleuLlama> of course the version i saw was a wmv i think... not this flash movie thing 15:36 < eightballx> wtf is it supposed to be about? 15:36 < Troy^> i first got my ipod mini it reconized plugged into a 1.1usb port but then took it on vacation charged it on serval diffrerent computers now i have it back home and it will charge yes but not be recognized as a ipod it wont be there as a drive or anything itunes wont see it either i have no idea what to do ? 15:37 < hyarion> courtc- I have found one for ppc but it's missing a buch of includes and libs... 15:37 < eightballx> Troy reset the ipod 15:37 < eightballx> i had the same thing 15:37 < Troy^> how? u reset it 15:37 < eightballx> hold menu and center 15:38 < Jack_MD> ok, aegray: now I have a converted file, can you give me your email address? 15:38 < Troy^> wow i had no idea thats how u reset it lol 15:38 < Troy^> there we go lol 15:38 < aegray> Jack_MD: is it converted for the ipod? 15:39 < BleuLlama> I hadn't actually watched it all the way through yet... 15:39 < eightballx> its not that creepy! 15:39 < hyarion> courtc- I thought it would be possible to take the incs and libs from your chain(that works) and put them into my version(that doesn't) 15:39 < BleuLlama> i never saw the aphex twin music part 15:39 < Troy^> thank u for ur help 15:39 < Jack_MD> aegray: I have both, non converted and converted for ipod 15:39 < Jack_MD> with mencoder 15:39 < aegray> i'm at work so i can't try out your movie 15:39 < aegray> no ipod photo here 15:39 < Jack_MD> ok 15:39 < BleuLlama> but it's very chris cunningham... very aphex twim... heh 15:39 < aegray> take a video or picture of it playing on your ipod 15:39 < aegray> and i'll look at it 15:40 < Jack_MD> mh.. then I'll need a digital camera... wait 15:40 < eightballx> np troy! :) 15:45 < Troy^> i cant wait untill there is support for my 4gb ipodmini 15:45 < aegray> theres no support 15:45 < Troy^> oh 15:45 < aegray> but it runs :) 15:45 < Troy^> oh it does 15:45 < aegray> linux runs on everything 15:45 * aegray runs linux on his garbage can 15:45 < BleuLlama> too bad there's no such thing as a "4g ipod mini" 15:45 < aegray> 4gb 15:46 < BleuLlama> too bad i never learned how to read 15:46 < aegray> haha 15:46 * BleuLlama kills self 15:46 < Troy^> [11:45] [f] «BleuLlama» too bad there's no such thing as a "4g ipod mini" whgat are u talking about 15:46 < hyarion> BlueLlama, thanks for that hdiutil command :) 15:46 < Troy^> if u have linux on ur ipod can u still have the original ipod screen too 15:46 < BleuLlama> np 15:46 < BleuLlama> u ur 15:46 < eightballx> yep 15:47 < aegray> so - who's seen sliding menus? 15:47 < eightballx> you can choose at ipod bootup 15:47 * aegray excited 15:47 < BleuLlama> yeah. courtc did an awesome job on those last night 15:47 < Troy^> nice im donwload the installer for my ipod now then when i put on linux now will it erase my stuff on the ipod 15:47 < Troy^> ? 15:47 < BleuLlama> so - who's seen color pod draw? 15:47 < eightballx> what are they, i ma gonna get latest kernel 15:47 < BleuLlama> (now with file saving!) 15:47 < eightballx> CONVERT THIS please i would love it on my ipod 15:47 < aegray> eightballx - in latest podzilla 15:47 < eightballx> http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/numa.php 15:47 < aegray> no 15:48 < aegray> its flash anyway iirc 15:48 < eightballx> omg poddraw saves now?! 15:48 * aegray applauds bleullama 15:48 < eightballx> damn 15:48 < BleuLlama> 8bx: don't you dare TELL us what to do 15:48 < eightballx> ok 15:48 < eightballx> sorry 15:48 < aegray> especially when its something you can do yourself 15:48 < macpod> spell out your words 15:49 < Troy^> eightballx can i pm 15:50 < eightballx> pm? 15:50 < eightballx> nm 15:53 < BleuLlama> i need to figure out a way to ask the user if they want to save the created image though. 15:53 < BleuLlama> right now, it just *always* saves out the image to a file when you exit 15:53 < aegray> just do a popup on menu 15:53 < macpod> make a meuu 15:53 < Jack_MD> *grr* cannot make a photo.. :( 15:53 < BleuLlama> oh, and run the menu. duh 15:53 < macpod> It will slide to the right and then be like, sup d00d, wanna save? 15:54 < BleuLlama> it saves out the image to a file named with the current date/time 15:54 < macpod> can you load images? 15:54 < BleuLlama> no 15:54 < macpod> Next feature :) 15:54 < BleuLlama> and it only does destructive drawing 15:54 < BleuLlama> it's always drawing 15:54 < BleuLlama> like an etch-a-sketch 15:54 < macpod> you could load a jpeg, then write over it 15:55 < macpod> then save it 15:55 < aegray> doesn't microwin have libraries for that too? 15:55 < aegray> makes it easier 15:55 < BleuLlama> well, currently, it draws on two buffers simultaneously 15:55 < BleuLlama> the screen buffer, and a buffer i use to save out the file with 15:55 < macpod> Yea.. the buffer problem.. it's a pain with all drawing libraries 15:55 < eightballx> wow... an ipod photoshop! i can see it now 15:55 < BleuLlama> since microwindows doesn't have a "get_pixel_at( x,y) 15:56 < macpod> Usually there is something that allows you to acess the window as bitmap data 15:56 < macpod> or rather the context 15:56 < BleuLlama> yeah, but i was unsure of how to use it, since i couldn't find any information about it 15:56 < aegray> Bleullama: microwin has functions for that iirc 15:56 < BleuLlama> the nanox docs on it were *really* weak 15:56 < aegray> i don't know if they are exposed 15:56 < aegray> look in fblin*revipod.c 15:57 < aegray> under microwindows/drivers/ 15:57 < macpod> In other languages it is just a linear stream of pixels 15:57 < macpod> you ahve to figure out how to read the bytes but that is not bad 15:57 < BleuLlama> it gets the screen buffer into a "packed pixel" buffer, but it doesn't say who should allocate it, how big it should be, if it's the rgb data or palette lookup data 15:57 < BleuLlama> and to be honest, i just didn't care enouhg to figure it out last night. 15:57 < macpod> heh 15:57 < aegray> wait which does? 16:00 < BleuLlama> huh, aegray? 16:00 < aegray> nm 16:00 < aegray> you said it gets it in a packed pixel 16:00 < aegray> buffer* 16:00 < aegray> what were you talking about? 16:00 < BleuLlama> yeah. GrReadArea() 16:00 < aegray> oh 16:00 < BleuLlama> "create a bitmap from the contents of a drawable area" 16:01 < BleuLlama> i'll screw around with it tonight 16:01 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 < aegray> you could expose linear16_readpixel 16:01 < aegray> in the fblin driver 16:02 < BleuLlama> no. i'm not going to screw with the microwindows stuff. 16:02 < aegray> ok 16:02 < BleuLlama> er, not going to hack it. 16:02 < BleuLlama> i'll figure out ReadArea 16:02 * aegray breaks encapsulation 16:03 * BleuLlama lunches 16:05 < eightballx> does anyone have the latest loader.bin or am i gonnnanhave to compile it myself? 16:05 < aegray> compile it 16:06 < eightballx> okelydokely 16:06 < eightballx> dont worry 16:07 < bobjohnso> hey dudes, my first time here, just wanted to say kudos on the work you're all doing 16:07 < bobjohnso> waiting for my data to copy off my 4g so i can try it out, don't care if i have to reinstall the firmware 16:07 < eightballx> cool 16:08 < bobjohnso> I'll leave ya alone now ;) 16:08 < Jack_MD> I'm off 16:08 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p5488A224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:08 < aegray> good luck with the install 16:08 < bobjohnso> thx 16:08 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 16:08 < aegray> hey david 16:09 < davidc__> ay 16:10 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 16:10 < ScOrPiO-P> Hi There 16:10 < davidc__> colors = kick. 16:10 < davidc__> because they're irritating. 16:11 < ScOrPiO-P> sorry will turn it off 16:13 < ScOrPiO-P> but 4 people who dont like them should strip the code from incoming messages in there setting 16:13 < Troy^> wow i installed linux and i ahve a the appleboot screen and thats it omg 16:13 < ScOrPiO-P> or should put +c on chan 16:14 < Troy^> opk it booted apple firmware 16:14 < Troy^> ok now i need to boot into linux 16:15 < davidc__> ScOrPiO-P: or I could just put mode +b on the 1 person who uses them 16:15 < davidc__> either or. 16:15 < davidc__> your choice. 16:15 * aegray votes for the latter 16:16 < davidc__> aegray: which latter? :P 16:16 < aegray> mode+b 16:16 < aegray> and regulation! 16:16 < davidc__> yeah, could work, but naaah.. I'll let him off for now... 16:16 < aegray> haha ok 16:16 < davidc__> [there's a reason we don't give aegray op's folks... the last time we did, he got into an argument with himself, and banned himself from the channel] 16:17 < ScOrPiO-P> im sorry but only trying to help u 16:17 < aegray> haha 16:18 * aegray checks logs to see if he actually did that 16:18 < Troy^> now i cant boot into apple firmware or linux omg 16:18 < Troy^> i just got an apple 16:18 < aegray> Troy^: what os? 16:19 < Troy^> oh it booted to applefirmware 16:19 < ScOrPiO-P> Troy^: put hold switch on when u c apple logo 16:19 < Troy^> ok 16:19 < Troy^> ok i put hold on 16:20 < Troy^> i see the apple logo 16:20 < aegray> troy: what os? 16:20 < ScOrPiO-P> when c text turn it off 16:20 < Troy^> os? 16:20 < ScOrPiO-P> Troy r u on xp 16:20 < Troy^> yea 16:20 < ScOrPiO-P> ok gd 16:21 < ScOrPiO-P> me2 16:21 < Troy^> i still cant fucking boot to linux maybe i installed wrong 16:21 < eightballx> wow, i have been away for a week and so much has changed! 16:21 < aegray> whats changed? 16:21 < aegray> not that much 16:22 < eightballx> poweer meter, usb detection , poddraw saves! 16:22 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 16:22 < Troy^> how do i get linux to boot lol 16:22 < ScOrPiO-P> Troy^ try holding the next button down when u c apple logo 16:22 < ScOrPiO-P> with hold off 16:22 < aegray> Troy^: what gne ipod? 16:22 < eightballx> menu transition themes 16:22 < aegray> gen* 16:22 < aegray> yea! 16:22 < aegray> sliding menus! 16:23 < Troy^> ok i held forawrd button for like 10secs and now its frozen on the apple logo im running a 4th gen 4gb ipod mini 16:23 < eightballx> hold backward 16:23 < aegray> do you see the penguin? 16:23 < Troy^> no 16:23 < eightballx> you might not be using the right ipodloader 16:23 < aegray> Ok theres your problem 16:23 < aegray> your on a 2g mini 16:23 < aegray> you need an updated version 16:23 < Troy^> no 4gb 16:24 < eightballx> i dont see the penguin anymoree but it still boots! 16:24 < aegray> does it have the size on the back? 16:24 < Troy^> 4gb 16:24 < aegray> on the back does it say 4gb? 16:24 < aegray> does it say it on the back of the ipod? 16:24 < Troy^> yes' 16:24 < aegray> its a 2g mini then 16:24 < Troy^> it says 4gb 16:24 < eightballx> i have a mini2 16:24 < aegray> you need an updated loader.bin, kernel.bin and podzilla 16:24 < aegray> 4gb = 2g mini 4 giga bytes 16:24 < aegray> god 16:24 < Troy^> oh lol 16:25 < Troy^> where do i get the upodated files 16:25 < aegray> maybe somebody has them 16:25 < hyarion> < 16:25 < eightballx> i have them all 16:25 < Troy^> could someone please send them to me please and thank you 16:25 < Troy^> :) 16:25 < eightballx> DCC? 16:26 < Troy^> sure 16:26 < eightballx> i will send you my entire installer folder that works on a mini2g 16:26 < Troy^> ok sure 16:26 < Troy^> then 16:28 < eightballx> i ma just raring it 16:28 < eightballx> can the ipod charge while in iPL now? 16:28 < Troy^> ok 16:28 < aegray> 8bx: it always could 16:28 < Troy^> well im in the applefirmware right now 16:28 < eightballx> i didnt know it could? 16:29 < Troy^> i dont think it chareges while in apple logo though 16:29 < aegray> try it out 8bx 16:29 < aegray> tias 16:30 < Troy^> so i just run the isntaller and it ahs the latest stuff that will work on my 2g ipod 16:30 < eightballx> when i put in usb cable and the popup comes up my ipod froze :( thiese new features are really buggy! 16:30 < eightballx> yes 16:30 < aegray> ok removing them 16:31 < Troy^> eightballx is the installer ur sending me the latest podzilla and kernel to work on the 2g for sure? 16:31 < eightballx> and when i try to open poddraw saved files it craps out 16:31 < eightballx> yep 16:32 < eightballx> ahhh 16:32 < eightballx> dont remove power features! 16:32 < aegray> if they're buggy i have to 16:32 < eightballx> they're not buggy it was ust weird the first ime 16:32 < eightballx> it works now 16:32 < aegray> you sure? 16:32 < eightballx> yep 16:32 < aegray> i can commit this and just make it a build option 16:32 < aegray> i don't want podzilla freezing 16:32 < eightballx> wanna see a video? 16:32 < aegray> sure 16:33 < eightballx> ill make one now 16:33 < aegray> i was just going to remove the usb thing 16:33 < eightballx> dont 16:33 < aegray> to be only there if you do make USB=1 16:33 < eightballx> well you can 16:34 < eightballx> sorry if i sounded commanding 16:34 < aegray> is it causing freezes or no? 16:35 < eightballx> no[e 16:35 < eightballx> it did the first time but works perfectly now 16:35 < aegray> if it does again, tell me 16:35 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-68-3.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:35 < aegray> i need to take it out if its causing problems 16:41 -!- TheGrimSqueaker is now known as danalien 16:42 < bobjohnso> heya fellas: fyi: 16:42 < bobjohnso> i've been messing with installing on the 4g, using the installer for windows. 16:42 < bobjohnso> just keep getting the folder exclamation 16:42 < aegray> 4g installer or regular installer? 16:43 < aegray> theres a separate 4g installer 16:43 < bobjohnso> ah, good call 16:43 < bobjohnso> where do i get that? 16:43 < aegray> becuase if you look at the topic..you'll know why 16:43 < bobjohnso> oh yeah 16:43 < aegray> probably...the website 16:43 < bobjohnso> i'll go look thx 16:43 < Troy^> wtf my ipod booted linux then i got a whole bunch of text and went exitting err 1 16:43 < aegray> you didn't copy the files right 16:43 < Troy^> what are u talking about 16:43 < aegray> you have to copy some stuff to the ipod before running the installer 16:44 < aegray> there's directions on the website 16:44 < aegray> for installing with the 4g installer 16:44 < aegray> you copy some files to the ipod first 16:44 < bobjohnso> duh, down at the bottom, my bad. 16:44 < aegray> yep 16:44 < Troy^> i already ahev those files on there 16:44 < Troy^> from the first install 16:44 < aegray> it overwrites - you have to do it again 16:45 < aegray> and have a new start file again 16:45 < bobjohnso> cool 16:46 < eightballx> can you accept DCC or shall i upload the video to my server? 16:46 < Troy^> o i need to recopy the files over 16:46 < aegray> you can try dcc 16:46 < Troy^> that are form 4gipl.zip 16:46 < aegray> yes troy 16:46 < bobjohnso> i'll let you know! thanks! 16:46 < Troy^> theh run ur installer 16:46 < aegray> the podzilla and stuff 16:46 < aegray> and start file 16:46 < aegray> cool bobjohnso 16:46 < bobjohnso> thanks a lot! 16:46 < aegray> yep 16:46 < bobjohnso> man, i wish i knew more about hardware programming so i could help 16:47 < bobjohnso> that shit is like voodoo to me 16:47 < bobjohnso> i'm a web software dev 16:47 < bobjohnso> ;) 16:47 < eightballx> the vid is dodgy, made with a webcam! 16:47 < aegray> its cool 16:47 < aegray> haha - theres always time to learn! 16:47 < bobjohnso> right! 16:48 < aegray> or...if you want to write something fun that might relate to webdav, 16:48 < aegray> i got a project for you 16:48 < bobjohnso> i might be interested 16:48 < aegray> you know perl? 16:48 < eightballx> i might update vipodzilla w/ latest CVS for ZSK 16:48 < bobjohnso> i could learn it, pretty much getting into the unix side a lot more lately 16:48 < aegray> can i grab source for that 8bx? 16:48 < eightballx> vipodzilla? 16:48 < aegray> yea - i just want the game sources 16:49 < eightballx> sure 16:49 < aegray> bobjohnso: i want a bot that i can issue commands to in this irc room 16:49 < bobjohnso> hmmm 16:49 < aegray> i'll write the actual logic, i just haven't had time to build up a skeleton yet 16:49 < bobjohnso> that sounds kind of out of my league at the moment 16:49 < bobjohnso> hmm i could try though 16:50 < bobjohnso> i have to admit i'm a bit weak on the unix side of things 16:50 < bobjohnso> fscking windows stuff i support, but a linux geek at heart. 16:50 < bobjohnso> still learning though 16:50 < aegray> its not really unix specific 16:50 < bobjohnso> i'd be up for giving it a whirl 16:50 < aegray> cool! 16:50 < bobjohnso> that's the way to learn, right!?!? 16:51 < aegray> thanks 8bx 16:51 < aegray> def is 16:51 < eightballx> np 16:51 < eightballx> think it is worth updating vipodzilla for ZSK? 16:51 < aegray> to cvs? 16:51 < eightballx> with CVS 16:51 < aegray> whats added to vi? just some games? 16:51 < _KDE> eightballx: definately 16:52 < eightballx> vipodzilla has text support and loadsa new games and stuff 16:52 < eightballx> it would b quite hard but ill start now! 16:52 < bobjohnso> so i guess where would you like me to start? 16:53 < aegray> look into writing a basic parser - one that just takes a string which will be an irc PRIVMSG command 16:54 < eightballx> have you looked into a plugin to an irc client to send certain messages (commands) at a certain time? 16:54 < eightballx> it would be alot simpler 16:54 < aegray> yea - i only know how to for xchat 16:54 < aegray> i'm thinking if he writes this in perl, i can just send his script strings from the plugin 16:55 < aegray> and get the result of what to send back 16:55 < eightballx> yeh 16:55 < aegray> karmabot! 16:55 < aegray> jk 16:55 < eightballx> brb booting into linux! 16:55 < bobjohnso> lol 16:57 -!- zak_ [~zak@host81-132-8-40.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:57 -!- eightballx [~eightball@host81-132-8-40.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:58 -!- zak_ is now known as eightballx 16:59 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 17:00 < Izz^> Woah, I thought I'd missed loads of new stuff: "Created the console system..... Web rendering rewrite in progress". But it was for Tempest :) 17:02 < bobjohnso> alrighty, i'll look into that this afternoon after i get some work done 17:02 < aegray> cool 17:04 < BleuLlama> if you're making an irc bot, you can also start with my perl irc bot skeleton... 17:04 < BleuLlama> just a thought 17:04 < aegray> yea true 17:05 < aegray> http://www.princessleia.com/view/gimmie.pl.html 17:06 < aegray> thats probably basically what we want 17:06 < aegray> except then i'll modify it to draw from either a database 17:06 < aegray> or some other datasource 17:06 -!- F-F_^hmf^ is now known as F-F_ 17:07 < BleuLlama> oooh, can it autokick when someone uses carets? 17:07 < aegray> thats what i'm thinking! 17:07 < aegray> haha 17:07 * aegray lunch bbiab 17:07 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 17:10 < bobjohnso> lol, nice url 17:11 < ScOrPiO-P> is www.ipodlinux.org working 17:16 < _KDE> scorpio-p: yes 17:16 < _KDE> (at least for me ;) 17:17 < ScOrPiO-P> ok ty 17:18 < ScOrPiO-P> idk what happed must be me 17:22 < bobjohnso> well, that script looks pretty straightforward 17:22 < bobjohnso> i think i see what you're getting at 17:32 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:50 -!- garrett_ is now known as garrett 17:55 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fcaba.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 17:55 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fcaba.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 -!- Johnny99 [~pola@65.97.173.254] has joined #ipodlinux 18:02 -!- Johnny99 [~pola@65.97.173.254] has quit [Client Quit] 18:03 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:06 < eightballx> hey KDE 18:07 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 18:07 < eightballx> i am having trouble updating vipodzilla to match CVS 18:08 < ScOrPiO-P> im ipod crash when play music in Podzilla and none of the buttons work 18:08 < ScOrPiO-P> my* 18:08 < ScOrPiO-P> crashed* 18:09 < ScOrPiO-P> now it will not restart 18:10 < ScOrPiO-P> oh nvm it works now 18:13 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 < bobjohnso> aegray: i should get a sec this afternoon to take a look at that perl stuff, i got booted before, or something 18:21 < aegray> cool 18:30 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 18:30 -!- eightballx [~zak@host81-132-8-40.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:39 -!- bobjohnso [~bleat@168-215-78-62.gen.twtelecom.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:51 < BleuLlama> FUCKING 18:51 < BleuLlama> HATE 18:51 < BleuLlama> CYGWIN 18:51 < aegray> why? 18:51 < aegray> why are you using it? 18:52 < BleuLlama> have to for work 18:52 < BleuLlama> it tries to make things unix like, but doesn't completely succeed 18:52 < aegray> yea it fails a lot 18:52 < aegray> i never really liked it except for its X-windows 18:52 < BleuLlama> it makes it just off enough to make it really fucking frustrating to use 18:52 < aegray> haha 18:59 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:59 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-3593.bb.online.no] has quit ["Shutdown time"] 19:05 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDE94A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:09 -!- Troy^ [pb@CPE0050bac211e1-CM014260047635.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:15 -!- Ranok [~Ranok@vtelinet-66-220-230-200.vermontel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 < Ranok> hello all 19:17 < Ranok> anyone home? 19:17 < corpix> hi Ranok 19:18 < corpix> i tried downloading this kernel: http://www.ipodlinux.org/2005-07-21-kernel.bin.gz , but it leads me to a page ?!?! : 19:18 < corpix> 2005-07-21-kernel.bin.gz 19:18 < corpix> From wikiPodLinux 19:18 < corpix> (There is currently no text in this page) 19:18 < corpix> weird 19:20 < Ranok> hmmmm 19:20 < corpix> wget -qO- http://www.ipodlinux.org/2005-07-21-kernel.bin.gz | head -n 1 19:20 < corpix> 19:20 < corpix> huh ? 19:20 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 19:20 < corpix> lucklily i didnt install "that kernel" to the ipod ;) 19:22 < Ranok> lol 19:23 < Ranok> I dunno how it would work 19:23 < Ranok> I don't think that it would understand xhtml 19:23 < corpix> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ seems to work, but http://www.ipodlinux.org/nightlys obviously has a link problem 19:25 < Ranok> a word of advice 19:25 < Ranok> never use the command 'passwd' 19:25 < _KDE> yeah /builds is now on ipodlinux.org and no longer on david.carne.ca 19:26 < davidc__> Ranok - huh? 19:26 < davidc__> Ranok - whats wrong with passwd? 19:27 < aegray> i love passwd 19:27 < davidc__> yeah, its a great command 19:27 < corpix> does the new kernel still eat up the battery power ? 19:27 < davidc__> especially when logged into someone else comp as root :D 19:27 < corpix> hows powermanagement going ? 19:28 < davidc__> corpix - its running around on fire. 19:28 < corpix> hehe, no really ... 19:28 < aegray> mines on fire right now 19:28 < corpix> ok, i got it ... 19:29 < corpix> now serious 19:29 < aegray> up - it blew up 19:29 < aegray> shit 19:29 * aegray gets a fire extinguisher 19:29 < aegray> so...yes 19:29 < corpix> aegray: hurry man 19:30 < corpix> if you dont find anyting extinguishing, just pee on your ipod 19:30 < corpix> its about death and life, hurry 19:32 < corpix> hehe, this channel is funny, if you gonna ask something ppl start to pussy-foot around as a first step 19:33 < aegray> damn straight! 19:33 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:33 < davidc__> nah, we just answer any questions on progress with whatever we feel like. 19:33 < aegray> amen 19:34 < corpix> i know 19:34 < aegray> any web developers in here? 19:34 < davidc__> because we really don't give a hell if we're getting stuff done fast enough for all your appetites. 19:34 < davidc__> aegray: I've done a teeny bit... why? 19:34 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-68-3.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 19:34 < aegray> i need a way to specify something that will appear at the end of a table, but define it at the start to go below the table 19:35 < davidc__> huh?! 19:35 < aegray> a hack to make a shitty docgen engine work 19:35 < aegray> :/ 19:35 < davidc__> so you want to put something after a table 19:35 < aegray> like
this stuff goes after
....
but the stuff has to go after 19:35 < davidc__> but you need to write it to the file first? 19:35 < aegray> yep 19:36 < davidc__> ah, just use a bit of javascript 19:36 < aegray> can't use javascript 19:36 < aegray> it has to be fed into word 19:36 < davidc__> ah... 19:36 < davidc__> hahahahahhhahahahahaha 19:36 < aegray> haha thanks 19:36 * aegray kills himself 19:36 < davidc__> word doesn't parse CSS properly IIRC? 19:36 < aegray> i'm not sure - but how would i do that with css? 19:36 -!- [1]Ranok [~Ranok@vtelinet-66-220-254-119.vermontel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 < davidc__> so good luck anyways :P... umm.. no way I really know. 19:37 < aegray> haha 19:37 < aegray> thanks 19:37 < davidc__> theoretically you could do something with positionings, but .. yech. 19:37 < aegray> especially since its dynamically generated and i can't use variables, i don't know the positions 19:37 < aegray> :/ 19:37 < davidc__> I was thinking the old document.getElementByID("x").innerHTML trick, but that won't work... 19:37 < [1]Ranok> I'm back :) 19:37 < aegray> yea - with javascript i'd have it done already 19:38 < [1]Ranok> I can help 19:39 < davidc__> then do so. 19:39 < [1]Ranok> whats the problem? 19:40 < aegray> hold on one sec 19:40 < [1]Ranok> kk 19:41 < davidc__> scroll ^ 19:41 < [1]Ranok> I was disconnected 19:41 < [1]Ranok> changing subnet 19:41 < aegray> http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ 19:41 < davidc__> ah, I don't see chan part/join messages in podzilla 19:41 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 < aegray> the log for today has no date on it 19:41 < davidc__> er, chatzilla 19:41 < aegray> or i'll restate it in like 2 mins 19:42 < [1]Ranok> it seem to 19:42 < [1]Ranok> wait 19:42 < [1]Ranok> sry 19:43 < aegray> ok hold on 19:43 < aegray> aegray i need a way to specify something that will appear at the end of a table, but define it at the start to go below the table 19:43 < [1]Ranok> well, whats wrong with passwd - you can't see what letter's your picking, so you effectivily lock your self out 19:43 < aegray> you have to enter it 2x to make sure you don't do that 19:45 < [1]Ranok> on the ipod 19:45 < [1]Ranok> I'm talking about 19:45 < aegray> why would you use passwd on the ipod?? 19:45 < aegray> hahaha 19:45 < [1]Ranok> thats what I was talking about 19:45 < aegray> you can just edit the passwd file when its mounted again 19:45 < aegray> to fix that 19:45 < [1]Ranok> and login does weird stuff 19:45 < [1]Ranok> anywho 19:45 < aegray> also, when do you ever have to login? 19:45 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 19:46 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@h14n2fls32o841.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:46 < [1]Ranok> define('AFTERTABLE', "i like being after the table"); 19:46 < aegray> where do you put that? 19:46 < [1]Ranok> whereever 19:46 < [1]Ranok> in PHP XD 19:46 < aegray> yea this aint php 19:46 < aegray> haha 19:47 < aegray> that would be nice 19:47 < davidc__> er, ranok.. then you would just use $AFTERTABLE to get it 19:47 < davidc__> so rather than use a define... 19:47 < [1]Ranok> oh 19:47 < [1]Ranok> well, whatever 19:47 < davidc__> $AFTERTABLE = "i like being after the table"; 19:47 < davidc__> then just use as normal :P 19:48 < aegray> gah... stupid company 19:49 < [1]Ranok> lol 19:50 < davidc__> eh, I think its impossible 19:51 < davidc__> why no just fix the docgen tool 19:51 < aegray> its in ejb's and it'll take some convincing to get the source 19:51 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 19:51 < aegray> but yes.. thats what i'm doing now 19:53 -!- Ranok [~Ranok@vtelinet-66-220-230-200.vermontel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:53 -!- [1]Ranok is now known as Ranok 19:54 -!- tbaskan [~osman@mailtest2.intertech.com.tr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 < BleuLlama> i need a two-wire firewire cable. heh 19:57 < davidc__> ejbs? 19:57 < aegray> Enterprise Java Beans 19:57 < aegray> its like the backend running on a server in java enterprise 19:57 < davidc__> disassemble - hex edit -run ;) 19:58 < aegray> haha 19:58 < davidc__> eh, java disassembly isn't that bad 19:58 < Eko> lol. 19:58 < davidc__> you get most of the source back pretty well 19:58 < Eko> its laughable. 19:58 < davidc__> Eko - depends 19:58 < aegray> no its not, but i'm pretty sure that giving recompiled code from disaseembly wouldn't go over too well with the boss 19:58 < davidc__> aegray: haha 19:59 < Eko> davidc__, as long as it hasn't been obfuscated, its pretty easy. 19:59 < davidc__> Eko - yeah, I know. 19:59 < Eko> some people even compile with debugging, in which case you can get variable names within functions, line numbers, and sometimes even *comments* 19:59 < davidc__> Eko - I've done it many more times than once :P 19:59 < Eko> so've I. 19:59 < aegray> haha 19:59 < Eko> my java teacher wasn't very smart. 20:00 < Eko> I turned in his exact source, and he gave me a B because I didn't do it right. 20:00 < davidc__> Eko: hahaha... some people di dthat with the sample application at school. 20:00 < davidc__> they all failed. 20:00 < davidc__> my teacher knew exactly how easy it was to decompile java :P 20:00 < Eko> lol. 20:00 < Eko> my teacher didn't. 20:01 < Eko> but then again, he also got fired for slamming a student's fingers in his locker twice. 20:01 < Eko> so yeah. 20:01 < aegray> um.... 20:01 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@219-88-55-180.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 < davidc__> umm.... 20:03 * aegray creeped out 20:04 -!- Shady716 [HydraIRC@ny-lackawannacadent4-2a-b-62.buf.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 < Shady716> I just installed 2005-7-21podzilla to my 4g ipod & podzilla started the first time but after I restarted my ipod into apples OS I cant get podzila to boot..It just keeps going into apples OS 20:06 < aegray> press rewind when you reboot 20:06 < aegray> hold it 20:07 < Shady716> I did but it just seems like my ipod goes to sleep & comes back on in the same spot it was when I turned it off 20:07 < aegray> back on in the same spot? 20:07 < aegray> how are you rebooting? 20:07 < Shady716> yes 20:08 < aegray> how are you rebooting? 20:08 < Shady716> by holding down the play button 20:08 < aegray> hahahaa 20:08 < aegray> thats the sleep button 20:08 < Pokeon> hahahahahahaha 20:08 < Shady716> :) 20:08 < aegray> hold menu+center 20:08 < Shady716> ha 20:08 < Shady716> you da man 20:08 < aegray> haha 20:08 < Shady716> also..the audio dont play right 20:09 < aegray> in podzilla? 20:09 < Shady716> it sounds slow & messed up 20:09 < aegray> what bitrate mp3s? 20:09 < Shady716> dik 20:09 < aegray> dik? 20:09 < Shady716> good 20:09 < Shady716> I have about 25gb of mp3s 20:09 < aegray> did you update the kernel too? not just podzilla? 20:09 < Shady716> I dont know = idk 20:10 < aegray> you had dik thats why idk 20:10 < Shady716> I prolly didnt 20:10 < Shady716> ya 20:10 < Shady716> sorry 20:10 < aegray> new kernel is faster 20:10 < aegray> and plays music better :) 20:10 < Shady716> do I just use podzilla updater 20:10 < aegray> no follow the instructions on the website 20:10 < Shady716> I installed all the new stuff 20:10 < aegray> something about installing nightlys 20:10 < Shady716> ya 20:11 -!- Anders [~anders@anders1.translator.reactos] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 < Shady716> I got the one from july 21st 20:11 < aegray> just the podzilla? 20:11 < Shady716> idk 20:11 < Shady716> yes 20:11 < aegray> you need to do both - kernel and podzilla from http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 20:13 < Shady716> ok I got the kernel now 20:13 < aegray> install it 20:13 < Shady716> do I uninstall everything 20:13 < aegray> yea 20:13 < Shady716> ok 20:13 < Shady716> thanks for your help 20:13 < aegray> yep 20:13 -!- Shady716 [HydraIRC@ny-lackawannacadent4-2a-b-62.buf.adelphia.net] has quit [" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 20:14 < aegray> hell be back 20:14 < Eko> you have to uninstall the old kernel before you install a new one? 20:14 < aegray> no 20:14 < Eko> oh, phew. 20:14 < aegray> but i don't feel like dealing with him 20:14 < Eko> lol. 20:14 * Eko was about to update his fw. 20:14 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:15 < Ranok> ummmm, have any of you fooled around with the video player? 20:15 < aegray> i've "fooled" around with it 20:16 < aegray> hehe 20:16 < aegray> its a big piece of shit 20:16 < aegray> whoever wrote it should be hung and pegged with rocks 20:16 < Ranok> it just loads and loads 20:16 < Eko> video player on the iPod... 20:16 < Ranok> for ever 20:16 < Eko> that ought to be interesting, since it can only do integral math... 20:16 < aegray> did you convert right? 20:16 < aegray> Eko - try it out 20:17 < aegray> wait - my new one - tias 20:17 < Eko> I have a 3G 20:17 * Eko cruises over to the nightly builds. 20:17 < Pokeon> aegray, new video player? 20:17 < Ranok> I htink so 20:18 < Ranok> ummmm 20:18 < Ranok> can I use yankeezilla with the new kernel? 20:18 < Pokeon> yup 20:19 < Ranok> sweet 20:20 < aegray> No - no new one yet 20:21 < aegray> i love people like echo who discount things before even thinking about it 20:21 < aegray> eko* 20:22 < Eko> aegray, you know, i'd love to try out a video player, but i'd need (a) time, (b) a video, and (c) space on my harddrive to fit everything, and since i'm down to 87k of free space... 20:22 < aegray> bahah 20:23 < Eko> 86k now, since podzilla is another k bigger. 20:23 < aegray> how is that possible 20:23 < aegray> how much music do you have? 20:24 < BleuLlama> blow away any temp file, and try it out. 20:24 < Eko> normalperson, harddrive on my computer. 20:24 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:24 < Eko> *no 20:24 < aegray> what? 20:24 < Ranok> ok 20:24 < Eko> my computer harddrive is what is running out of space, not my iPod. 20:24 < Ranok> which do you think is better, nightly podzilla 20:24 < aegray> normalperson? 20:24 < Ranok> or release of yankeezilla? 20:24 < BleuLlama> you must be using some sort of awesome OS, since every OS i've ever used freaks out when it has less than a few hundred k of space on the drive. 20:24 < aegray> yea i know 20:25 < Eko> aegray, if I start out "no," it completes it thinking i'm adressing a nick. 20:25 < aegray> oh 20:25 < Ranok> hmmm? 20:25 -!- Shady716 [HydraIRC@ny-lackawannacadent4-2a-b-62.buf.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 < aegray> oh cool - never knew that 20:25 < Shady716> where do I pit the kernel BIN file 20:25 < Shady716> put* 20:25 < Ranok> rtfm 20:25 < aegray> hahaha 20:25 < Ranok> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Windows_nightly_build_installation 20:26 < Ranok> but whats better, podzilla nightly, or yankeezilla 20:26 < Ranok> ? 20:26 < aegray> Shady716: in the installer directory - replace linux.bin with it 20:26 < aegray> podzilla nightly is more stable 20:26 < aegray> yankeezilla has more features 20:26 < Ranok> hmmmmm 20:26 < aegray> but they aren't all tested and some have bugs 20:26 < aegray> which is why they aren't in podzilla yet 20:27 < Shady716> ya TY 20:27 < Eko> what features does it have? 20:27 < aegray> read the yankeezilla page 20:27 < Eko> notable ones 20:27 < aegray> some games and textinput 20:27 < Eko> k 20:27 < Eko> I will read the page once I get back into graphics. 20:28 < BleuLlama> which you can't do with 86k free 20:28 -!- Shady716 [HydraIRC@ny-lackawannacadent4-2a-b-62.buf.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:28 < aegray> haha 20:28 < aegray> true 20:28 < Eko> BleuLlama, different machine. 20:28 < Eko> thats the mac that has almost no space left. 20:28 < Eko> my linux box has plenty of space for graphics. 20:28 < Eko> its got a whole 500k free. 20:29 < aegray> Eko: hahahahahahha 20:29 < BleuLlama> wait. your mac runs OS X and has 86k free? 20:29 < aegray> Eko: get a new harddrive 20:29 < BleuLlama> (assuming the OS X thing) 20:29 < aegray> os 2.1 20:29 < Eko> BleuLlama, if you can call this "running" then yeah 20:29 < Eko> its slow as hell. 20:29 < BleuLlama> that's impossible. OS X doesn't run with less than a around 50mb free on your disk 20:30 < BleuLlama> you lose system settings, things get unstable. 20:30 * aegray Eko liar 20:30 < BleuLlama> been there. you're not there. 20:30 < BleuLlama> but i'll tell you where you're about to be.... 20:30 < Eko> hahaha, like forgetting dock size? 20:30 < Eko> losing backgrounds? 20:30 < Eko> iTunes telling you it can't save the library? 20:31 < Eko> taking minutes to switch between running applications? 20:31 < Eko> loginwindow spontanously logging you out? 20:33 < Eko> oh, and then there's the little fact that sometimes when I log out, it drops my OS X box into console mode. 20:33 < aegray> theres console mode? 20:35 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 < Eko> aegray, it runs a BSD base, so when quartz dies and loginwindow isn't able to start it up, you get a BSD-style console login. 20:37 < aegray> cool 20:37 < aegray> i want it 20:37 < Eko> you can also cheat to get into it by typing >console as your login name and an empty password at an OS X login prompt. 20:37 < Eko> it drops you into console mode with a console login prompt. 20:37 < aegray> nice 20:37 * aegray will try this 20:38 < Eko> it scares the hell out of stupid (especially windows) sysadmins. 20:38 -!- gromit`` [~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 < gromit``> hello 20:40 < aegray> gromit``: hello 20:40 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 < Eko> I really need to figure out what the heck I have saved on that machine, it just locked up when i plugged in my iPod. 20:42 * Eko does the classic `du -sk ~/* | tee filesize.txt` 20:47 -!- zack_|work [~Delirious@adsl-66-126-171-192.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 -!- admiralfrijole is now known as admiralaway 20:51 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-210-9.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:52 < Eko> hey, does the battery stuff work now in iPL? 20:52 < aegray> battery meter does 20:52 < Eko> sweet. 20:52 < aegray> battery saving doesnt 20:52 < Eko> lol. 20:52 < Eko> yeah yeah. 20:58 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 21:11 -!- admiralaway is now known as admiralfrijole 21:19 -!- Bi-noix [~Ben@ivr94-3-82-226-13-213.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["bn"] 21:26 < ScOrPiO-P> dose sound work 4 video 21:27 < aegray> i'm not even going to answer your sentence that hurts my head 21:27 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 21:27 < ScOrPiO-P> oh it still dont work then 21:28 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: its just not enabled 21:28 * aegray plays video with sound 21:29 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:30 < Vanquisher> aegray, :| 21:30 < ScOrPiO-P> how do i turn it on play video with sound or what cmd do uset to convet a clip with sound 21:30 < ScOrPiO-P> use* 21:30 < aegray> you have to reprogram something in the kernel 21:30 < Vanquisher> aegray, u fixed it? 21:31 < Vanquisher> ah 21:31 < Vanquisher> yea thats right 21:31 < ScOrPiO-P> can u send me the kernel bin then 21:31 < Vanquisher> aegray, u fixed that like what yesterday? 21:31 < aegray> yep :) 21:31 < Vanquisher> right, i remember that 21:31 < Vanquisher> heh 21:31 < aegray> ScOrPiO-P: its not in cvs yet 21:31 < Vanquisher> spaced out in the beginning 21:31 < Vanquisher> lol 21:32 < aegray> so i can't send you anything yet 21:32 < Vanquisher> exactly 21:32 < ScOrPiO-P> ok np will wait can't be long 21:32 < Vanquisher> ScOrPiO-P, dunno takes days sometimes 21:33 < ScOrPiO-P> oh ok 21:33 < BleuLlama> aegray: that movie i was trying out before works now. i had the conversion format wrong. looks and sounds great! nice job! 21:33 < BleuLlama> :D 21:33 < aegray> :) 21:33 < Vanquisher> :) 21:33 < Vanquisher> yeah i watched a live concert 21:34 < Vanquisher> ! 21:34 < Vanquisher> rules! 21:34 < Vanquisher> aegray, how did u come across the fix 21:35 < aegray> just had to change up some stuff - a thread or two 21:35 < Vanquisher> cool coo 21:35 < Vanquisher> l 21:36 < ScOrPiO-P> what the cmd to convert a clip with sound 4 mplayer 21:36 < Vanquisher> mplaer?... 21:36 < Vanquisher> player* 21:36 < aegray> -oac pcm 21:36 < aegray> and don't use the -nosound 21:36 < Vanquisher> exactly 21:36 < ScOrPiO-P> so where say -nosound i put -oac pcm 21:37 < aegray> sure 21:37 < ScOrPiO-P> cool ty 21:39 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@h14n2fls32o841.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:44 < ScOrPiO-P> is there a way to play ipod video in windows xp 21:45 < aegray> if its converted for the photo, windows media player should be able to 21:45 < aegray> but i dunno 21:45 < ScOrPiO-P> ok it will try it 21:46 < ScOrPiO-P> dont work 21:46 -!- Troy^ [pb@24.103.101.3] has joined #ipodlinux 21:46 < ScOrPiO-P> i need RGB codec 21:47 < Troy^> is there a program to view images in black and white on my mini 21:47 < bomg31> you need a codec/player that can decode the raw video, i thought VLC could do it, but it doesn't look that way 21:47 < aegray> Troy^: yes 21:47 < Troy^> is it a program that needs to be added or is it already with linux 21:47 < aegray> we'll build a plugin at some point 21:48 < aegray> Troy^: its in there already - open an image from the filebrowser 21:48 < aegray> open any .jpg or .gif or .bmp (i think) 21:49 < Troy^> well the pictures are on my ipod in a folder called storage and the filebrowser doesnt show filebrowser 21:49 < ScOrPiO-P> Troy go here http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1220 21:49 < aegray> the filebrowser doesn't show filebrowser eh? 21:49 < ScOrPiO-P> there is pic that u can try 21:49 < Eko> aegray: it also opens pixmaps doesn't it? 21:49 < BleuLlama> i should add in ppm image loading to the filebrowser 21:49 < aegray> Eko: no clue 21:50 < aegray> BleuLlama: yea! 21:50 < BleuLlama> so that you can actually look at the images you created in pod draw. heh 21:51 < ScOrPiO-P> just copy them any on ur ipod and open image from the filebrowser 21:51 < ScOrPiO-P> any where* 21:53 * BleuLlama afk 21:53 < Troy^> i guess the images have to be on the main directory on the ipod then right 21:53 < Troy^> because the folder storage wont show up in the file browser 21:55 < Troy^> still not showing my pics 21:55 < ScOrPiO-P> make a folder images in main directory on the ipod and put the images in there 21:56 < Troy^> ok 21:56 < ScOrPiO-P> then go to file browser then HP then images 21:58 < aegray> Troy^: is the folder on the windows ipod drive? 21:58 < Troy^> yea 21:58 < aegray> Troy^: goto in filebrowser->mnt/ 21:59 < aegray> Troy^: is there anything in there? 21:59 < Troy^> ah there we go lol 22:00 < Troy^> its taking forever to load the images ah there we go 22:01 < Troy^> wow bad contraqst 22:01 < aegray> fix it 22:02 < Troy^> images arent the best on an ipod mini lol 22:02 < aegray> Troy^: ya think... 22:02 < Troy^> haha.. can u have a background or screensaver 22:02 < aegray> not yet 22:03 -!- timmy_isdaman [~timmyisda@d207-216-2-215.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:05 < ScOrPiO-P> 22:05 < ScOrPiO-P> MPlayer Windows GUI 22:05 < aegray> there you go 22:05 < ScOrPiO-P> sounds gd 22:05 < Troy^> damn i wish i could have a screensaver 22:05 < aegray> Troy^: make one 22:07 < Troy^> how is that for the ipod? 22:07 < aegray> Troy^: how is what? 22:07 < Troy^> how do u make a screensaver for a ipod 22:08 < aegray> you write one 22:08 < Troy^> like the matrix one 22:08 < Troy^> ? 22:08 < Ranok> ummmmm 22:08 < aegray> yea 22:08 < ScOrPiO-P> found out how to play ipod video on windows 22:09 < ScOrPiO-P> MPlayer Windows GUI 22:09 < bomg31> really? how ScOrPiO-P 22:09 < Ranok> heh 22:09 < bomg31> ah good point, i didn't even think of that, lol 22:09 < ScOrPiO-P> look here http://www.stahuj.cz/multimedia/multimedialni_prehravace/mplayer-windows-gui/ 22:09 < bomg31> kk 22:09 < Troy^> ok how do i go about doing that i wanna make one that comes up after inactivity or whatever i just want it to be a single picture thats all 22:10 < bomg31> Troy^, that would require editing the main "timer" type of code (that's not really what it is, but you would have to always been looking for inactivity, which require changes to the core code 22:10 < Troy^> oh lol 22:10 < aegray> changes in pz.c 22:11 < bomg31> yeah 22:11 < bomg31> what he ^ said, lol 22:12 < Troy^> hmm 22:12 < Troy^> alright linux is pretty cool lol 22:12 < Ranok> well, that was colse 22:12 < Ranok> close 22:13 < ScOrPiO-P> MPlayer Windows GUI IS cool 22:14 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fcaba.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:14 < Troy^> is there a way to switch that it automatically boots to linux without reinstalling it 22:14 < ScOrPiO-P> nope 22:14 < bomg31> nope 22:14 < bomg31> heh 22:14 < Ranok> I thought I killed my ipod 22:15 < Ranok> would boot to the loader, then reboot 22:15 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:15 -!- timmy_isdaman [~timmyisda@d207-216-2-215.bchsia.telus.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:15 < Troy^> lol 22:18 -!- johny5 [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:18 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDFEA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:19 < Eko> how'd you fix it ranok? 22:19 < Eko> disk mode? 22:19 < ScOrPiO-P> can i add all the games to podzilla game menu 22:19 < aegray> no 22:19 < ScOrPiO-P> Okie Dokie 22:20 < Eko> bleh. 22:20 < Eko> pothead mIRC script. 22:20 < aegray> seriously 22:20 -!- johny5 is now known as aegray_ 22:20 < ScOrPiO-P> just Addon sorry 22:20 < Ranok> eko: yes 22:20 < Eko> you missed the point ScOrPiO-P, I was complaining about the mIRC part more than the PoThEaD or script part. 22:21 < bomg31> ok so i'm having a sort of issue 22:21 < Eko> as opposed to a real issue. 22:21 < bomg31> exaclty, lol my 40gb photo will not boot up with anything but the June 9th 05 kernel 22:21 < davidc__> ScOrPiO-P: What did I say about colors?!?! 22:21 < Eko> lol. 22:21 < Eko> davidc__, no +c mode? 22:21 < bomg31> anything but that will cause it to stick on the apple logo and go no futher 22:21 < Eko> or +C even. 22:22 < davidc__> Eko - there could theoretically be a valid reason for colors at some point 22:22 * Eko tries to think of the last time he has seen a necessity for color 22:22 < ScOrPiO-P> i have truned it now sorry hop it dont do it now 22:22 < davidc__> and making unreadable text is not a valid reaon. 22:22 * admiralfrijole is with Eko on this one 22:22 < Eko> I can't think of any and i've been on IRC for.... at least seven years now 22:23 < davidc__> heh.. fine, I'll put it on :) 22:23 < Eko> thanks 22:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+c ] by davidc__ 22:23 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:23 < aegray> davidc__ but then CIA loses its colors! 22:23 < aegray> nooooo! 22:23 < aegray> haha 22:23 < davidc__> damnit 22:23 < Eko> does dancer have +C? or +S? whatever strip colors is? 22:23 < davidc__> I knew there was a reason 22:23 < davidc__> whats the difference between +C and +c ? 22:24 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-c ] by davidc__ 22:24 < Eko> davidc__, depends what IRCd, +C (or +S) strips colors instead of blocking messages with colors 22:24 < davidc__> I don't want to remove the cool cia colors 22:24 < davidc__> that's a good use 22:24 < Eko> cia? 22:24 < aegray> CIA = cvs commit log bot 22:24 < davidc__> it prints CVS updates to the chan 22:24 < Eko> lol. 22:24 < Eko> thats awesome. 22:24 < Eko> where is it? 22:24 < Eko> oh 22:24 < Eko> CIA-4 22:25 < Eko> how often does that happen? 22:25 < Eko> I think i've seen it like, once 22:25 * Eko scrolls 22:25 < davidc__> eh, whenever someone commits :P 22:25 < Eko> lol. 22:25 * Eko goes off to eat lunch. 22:31 < bomg31> ok this kernel thing is really starting to "erk" me the wrong way 22:31 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@h14n2fls32o841.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:32 < bomg31> anyone kno what would cause the boot process to hang on the apple logo 22:32 < aegray> whats wrong with it? 22:32 < bomg31> maybe the 6-26-05 apple update? 22:32 < aegray> you didn't do it right? 22:32 < aegray> what gen ipod? 22:32 < bomg31> ha, nice 22:32 < bomg31> its my 4g photo 22:32 < aegray> please. just say photo 22:32 < aegray> windows 4g installer? 22:32 < bomg31> sorry, i updated the kernel to the lastest nightly on my mini 2g and it seemed all was well 22:32 < bomg31> yeah i've tried 'em all 22:33 < aegray> ungziped right and replaced the files right and all? 22:33 < bomg31> hte 4gipl installer the simple-ipl from the forums and one other 22:33 < meatmanek> teehee. 22:33 < bomg31> yeah it all works when i install normally, but when i paste in the latest nightly as 'linux.bin' it screws up 22:33 < meatmanek> you know what the apple fw doesn't have? 22:33 < meatmanek> balance. 22:34 < bomg31> i wouldn't worry but i need the new kernel so video will play correctly 22:34 < aegray> and your replacing the linux.bin file right? 22:34 * aegray doubtful 22:35 < bomg31> yeah, i mean, i download the nightly kernel, delete the old linux.bin and paste inthe nightly and rename it "linux.bin" i'm no fan of windows but i'm pretty sure i'm doing that much right 22:35 < aegray> are you gunziping it? 22:36 < aegray> aegray_ 22:36 < bomg31> yeah, i mean the file i paste in is DD-MM-YYYY-kernel.bin or w/e 22:36 < aegray> you download a .gz from the builds site 22:36 < aegray> you have to unzip that 22:36 * aegray thinks 22:37 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDE94A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:37 < bomg31> the only way i can get it to work normally is if i use the "simple-ipl" installer and the use the linux.bin that comes with that particular installer 22:37 < aegray> are you gunziping that file? 22:37 < bomg31> yes 22:37 < aegray> what are you using? 22:38 < bomg31> wait, would decompressing it using a different program cause the file to be created but not correctly? 22:38 < meatmanek> possibly 22:38 < aegray> maybe - i'm more trying to figure out if you decompressed it right 22:38 < meatmanek> I doubt it, but possible. 22:38 < meatmanek> possibly* 22:38 < aegray> because this happens - a lot* 22:38 -!- aegray_ is now known as iplbot 22:38 < bomg31> yeah i figured,i racked my brain searching through about 8 pages of forum threads 22:39 < meatmanek> so, answer the question and it might be easier to help 22:39 < ScOrPiO-P> i use winrar 22:39 < aegray> haha 22:39 < ScOrPiO-P> in xp 22:39 < bomg31> yeah i'm also using winrar in xp 22:40 < meatmanek> brb. 22:40 * Vanquisher hopes windows dies 22:41 < Vanquisher> bluescreen all of you heathens 22:41 < bomg31> yeah i'm not a huge fan right now 22:41 < Vanquisher> HEATHEN! 22:41 < Vanquisher> repent! 22:41 < Vanquisher> install linux on your computer 22:41 < ScOrPiO-P> renamed the 2005-07-21-kernel.bin to linux and put it in iPod Linux Installer Modded 22:41 < ScOrPiO-P> linux.bin 22:41 < ScOrPiO-P> imean 22:42 < ScOrPiO-P> folder 22:42 < bomg31> yeah that's exactly waht i'm doing 22:43 < bomg31> hang on i'm moving to my mac 22:43 * meatmanek can't wait until intel macs come out.... 22:43 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 22:43 -!- bomg31 [~blah2132@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:43 -!- iplbot [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:44 < bomg31> ok so i'm determined to get this working 22:45 * meatmanek really wants to tri-boot. 22:45 < meatmanek> actually, 22:45 < meatmanek> only dual boot 22:45 < bomg31> ha, don't we all 22:45 < meatmanek> maybe tri-boot just to say that I have. 22:45 < bomg31> that'd be insane 22:45 < meatmanek> but dual-boot mac/linux running vmware or wine. 22:46 < meatmanek> ick.... 22:46 < meatmanek> this is why I hate digitally imported. 22:47 < bomg31> ok here's one, could i get easier acess to installing the new kernel if i ran a livecd of linux on my windows box 22:47 < bomg31> like, would the livecd allow me to do this normally?, (i'm not to sure about what happens if i try to download files when running a live cd) 22:47 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 22:48 < meatmanek> it keeps the file in RAM 22:48 < bomg31> ok, good then it'll work, lemme give that a god, then i can do this whole deal alot easier 22:48 -!- LordN_Away is now known as Lord_Nightmare 22:48 < bomg31> **gol 22:48 < bomg31> *go, dammit 22:48 < meatmanek> hahahah. 22:53 < Vanquisher> BLUESCREEN! 22:54 < ScOrPiO-P> I LIKE BLUESCREEN! 22:55 < ScOrPiO-P> on my ipod 22:57 < bomg31> ok so linux isn't detecting my ipod as being plugged in 22:59 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Well Be Back Just Got Disconnected By Router"] 22:59 -!- ScOrPiO-P [~PoThEaD@82-38-145-235.cable.ubr01.roth.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 23:01 < BleuLlama> so... what should i work on tonight... getting PodDraw to save images properly, or a piezo beeper sequencer? 23:01 < aegray> piezo beeper! 23:01 * bomg31 agrees 23:01 * aegray wants ringtones for alarms 23:02 < bomg31> heck yea 23:02 < bomg31> i want my ipod to be the thing that goes off during the movie, lol 23:02 < aegray> haha 23:03 < bomg31> ok we're gunna give this whole kernel mess one more try, then i'm settingling for funked up video 23:03 -!- garrett [~garrett@130.57.22.69] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:03 < bomg31> *setlling 23:07 < BleuLlama> caret i think 23:07 < BleuLlama> oops 23:07 -!- BrianGriffin [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:07 < BleuLlama> s/piezo beeper sequencer/piezo sequencer/ (redundant) 23:08 < bomg31> ok simple one, if anyone else here has a photo on windows, what installer did you use? 23:09 < aegray> 4g installer 23:09 < bomg31> "4gipl"? 23:09 < aegray> sure 23:10 < bomg31> yeah that's what i just tried and it was a no go 23:10 -!- bomg31 [~blah2132@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:10 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:11 -!- bomg31 [~brasonmyg@adsl-69-155-143-201.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:11 < bomg31> sorry bout that, my mac kinda flipped out on me 23:11 < BleuLlama> that's what they're good at! HAHAHAHAHAHA 23:11 < BleuLlama> oh, you said 'mac'. nevermind 23:11 < bomg31> anyways, what we saying, oh yeah i hate windows 23:11 < bomg31> haha 23:11 < BleuLlama> i thought you said "Amiga" 23:12 < bomg31> man i think i have some condition that causes me to like think words but no type them 23:12 < bomg31> *not 23:12 < bomg31> see 23:12 * BleuLlama wonders if anyone here ever used an amiga regularly... 23:12 < bomg31> doubtful 23:12 < bomg31> i played with one once, my gf's dad had one 23:13 < bomg31> ok wait, will the 6-26-05 apple fw update cause problems with ipl on the photo? 23:14 < admiralfrijole> yes 23:14 < bomg31> that's what i suspected 23:14 < BleuLlama> nope. should be fine as long as you have the most recent kernel 23:14 < admiralfrijole> well then, disregard my answer :-p 23:14 < bomg31> that's the problem!!! grrrrrr it works with an OLD kernel but not a new one 23:15 < BleuLlama> i had a 60gb color working on that firmware last weekend 23:15 < BleuLlama> worked great 23:15 < bomg31> yeah i mean i can get it to work no problem, but when i update the kernel to anything but some obscure nightly from the 9th of june, it won't boot 23:16 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:27 -!- BrianGriffin [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Success] 23:28 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@h14n2fls32o841.telia.com] has quit ["..."] 23:47 -!- _matt_ [~matt@ACC8DEC6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #iPodLinux --- Log closed Fri Jul 22 00:00:00 2005