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00:01 < Capso> Davidc__: All hacking aside... I know you liked that image on my Pastebin.
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00:03 < jedix> hrm
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00:08 < corpix> hi
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00:08 < corpix> anything new to mpd ?
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00:09 < tickbyt3> how come I can't access the latest build sites
00:10 < Capso> Corpix: YOu wanted the howto, didn't you?
00:10 < corpix> Capso: yes, some days ago
00:10 < corpix> i got it
00:10 < corpix> but i gave up, when "Error on connect to mpd"
00:11 < corpix> tickbyt3: server is temproraly down, check cvs
00:11 < Capso> Corpix: You have a mini 2g?
00:11 < corpix> Capso: exactly
00:11 < Capso> Tickbyt3: Give me a second... I'm updating my nightlies.
00:11 < Capso> Corpix: Okay... looks like there's something I need to do for the Mini 2Gs.
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00:12 < corpix> hi aegray
00:12 < Capso> Corpix: I'm going to give you a special build to try and you'll tell me if it works... that okay?
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00:12 < aegray> hi
00:12 < corpix> Capso: yep
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00:14 < corpix> Capso: sorry , to be exact, it says: "Unable to connect to MPD"
00:14 < Capso> Corpix: I know.
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00:24 < corpix> Capso: just msg me, i gonna watch a dvd
00:24 < Capso> Okay.
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00:48 < corpix> Capso: you there ?
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00:57 < tickbyt3> public annoucement the new 20 gig acts different then the other colors and old linux color does not work on it
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01:03 < BleuLlama> man, i can't type when i'm buzzed
01:04 * BleuLlama lightweight
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01:25 < Airdrie]> is there a user friendly install available for u2 ipod yet guys ?
01:25 < aegray> 4g installer
01:25 < aegray> search
01:25 < Airdrie]> I heard the site is ahving probs and wasnt sure if it was up tod ate
01:26 < Airdrie]> search on what exactly ?
01:26 < aegray> 4g install
01:26 < Airdrie]> Yes... but where
01:26 < aegray> ipodlinux.org or google ipodlinux 4g install
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01:27 < Airdrie]> The website isnt working properly so i cant search there.
01:27 < aegray> i gave you two options there
01:28 < Airdrie]> Im fully aware of that.
01:28 < aegray> fun
01:28 < aegray> try it out
01:29 < Airdrie]> Yes, sure. The primary reason for the question was to see if it had come out of testing stage.
01:29 < Airdrie]> Thats all.
01:29 < Airdrie]> :o)
01:29 < BleuLlama> hey aegray!
01:29 < aegray> hi!
01:29 < BleuLlama> aegray: can you read the topic to me?
01:29 < aegray> I think it says: http://www.ipodlinux.org/ || We know the database is corrupt and we're waiting for the server admin to get back from vacation to roll it back. Just bear with it until then.
01:29 < BleuLlama> ok
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01:34 < aegray> how do you send color sequences?
01:36 < courtc> RED
01:36 < courtc> not like that
01:36 < aegray> haha
01:36 < corpix> Capso: ?
01:36 < BleuLlama> send( sequence.colors() );
01:36 < BleuLlama> not like that either
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01:36 < aegray> \send
01:37 < aegray> whoops
01:37 < courtc> /red RED
01:37 < courtc> noe
01:37 < aegray> \0034hello
01:37 < aegray> \0034
01:38 < courtc> RED
01:38 < courtc> woo!
01:38 < aegray> hows that done
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01:38 < courtc> ctrl-k 4
01:38 < aegray> hello
01:38 < aegray> hello
01:38 < aegray> hmm
01:38 < corpix> woohoo
01:39 < aegray> damn
01:39 * BleuLlama sees no color here. :(
01:39 * BleuLlama just sees empty lines
01:39 < courtc> bold
01:39 < BleuLlama> oh. i see bold apparantly
01:39 < aegray> how do you change the background and foreground?
01:39 < courtc> http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/colors.html
01:40 < aegray> 0 hello
01:40 < courtc> ?
01:41 < aegray> thanks
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01:41 < courtc> reverse?
01:41 < courtc> underline?
01:41 < courtc> :/
01:42 < courtc> %U underline?
01:42 < birostick> underline
01:43 * courtc can't do it :(
01:43 < birostick> are you using mIRC ?
01:43 < Stealth-X> O.o
01:43 < courtc> no, xchat.
01:43 < birostick> ahh
01:44 < courtc> underline?
01:44 < courtc> humph
01:45 < birostick> bold!
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01:46 < ficoos> hi, whenever i run the make_fw command i get: "fread failed: Success". help?
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01:47 * courtc gives up.
01:48 < courtc> podzilla
01:48 < aegray> there you go
01:48 < aegray> there!
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01:56 < Capso> Corpix: Just a second.
01:56 < Capso> Corpix: Well, give me some time.
01:57 < Capso> Corpix: I'll have it ready, don't worry... I've just got to take care of somet things.
02:05 < Capso> s/somet/some
02:11 < aegray> bla
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03:11 < linxchq> hello
03:11 < aegray> hi
03:12 < linxchq> can someone help me compile ipodloader for osx?
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03:12 < aegray> what are you having trouble with?
03:12 < linxchq> i installd arm-elf-stl, and getting errors, not too good with coding.
03:12 < joshk> arm-elf-stl?
03:12 < joshk> what's that?
03:12 < courtc> ooh bold
03:13 < courtc> way to put it to use joshk!
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03:14 < courtc> ae > dev
03:14 < linxchq> its osx arm-elf cross compiler..
03:15 < Scyther> Hey, folks. I'm trying to install linux for the first time and podzilla doesn't seem to be working... can anybody help me?
03:15 < courtc> s/ae > /aegray -> ./
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03:16 < courtc> Scyther, how is it not working?
03:17 < Scyther> It wont't display the "GUI". I can use my click wheel (I hear the clicking) but it still shows all the commands.
03:17 < Scyther> I'm using a 4G, by the way.
03:17 < courtc> update podzilla
03:17 < Scyther> I've tried.. it seems to be forbidden.
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03:18 < courtc> forbidden eh?
03:18 < Scyther> yeah.
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03:18 < Scyther> The ipodlinux.org/builds URL.
03:18 < courtc> ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla
03:18 < aegray> i heard the government kills you if you try
03:18 < yancmo> hello all
03:18 < Scyther> hello.
03:18 < aegray> its forbidden
03:18 < linxchq> anyone? or anyone know where i can find a complied ppc verison of make_fw nightly build?
03:18 < yancmo> Ipod linux newb. Just installed it.
03:19 < courtc> linxchq, what errors are you getting?
03:19 < courtc> whats up with the sudden onslaught of noobs?
03:19 < Scyther> lol, I booted again, screen is completly blank.
03:19 < Scyther> It's that new video support thing. :-p
03:19 < EvilDude> new?
03:19 < EvilDude> thats old now :P
03:19 < yancmo> yep
03:19 < yancmo> lol
03:20 < Scyther> well, it was digged.
03:20 < yancmo> want to watch vids on ipd.
03:20 < yancmo> thats where I got it. DIGG
03:20 * courtc looks at /.
03:20 < yancmo> I seen it a month or 2 ago but never realize how easy it was to install.
03:21 < aegray> haha courtc
03:22 < courtc> Disability Information for Greater Glasgow?
03:22 < Scyther> Courtc, can I get a copy of podzilla from you?
03:22 < Scyther> (the screen still goes blank on bootup. Grrr)
03:22 < linxchq> err, i miss linux
03:22 < courtc> Scyther, you don't want my build of podzilla.
03:23 < Scyther> lol, I missed the link up there.
03:23 < Scyther> *URL
03:23 < BleuLlama> courtc: your build has cooties
03:23 < courtc> damn right
03:23 < courtc> really now, what's DIGG?
03:24 < BleuLlama> digg.com
03:24 < Scyther> It's like a user supported slashdot.
03:24 < Scyther> You find a news story and you "digg" it.
03:24 < BleuLlama> it's done by that guy from The ScreenSavers and SYSTM i believe
03:24 < Scyther> People read it, and if they like it, they "digg" it so it stays as a headline.
03:24 < Scyther> Yeah.
03:24 < Scyther> Kevin Rose worked/works on it.
03:24 < courtc> ahh.. I went there and said "this can't be it"
03:24 < BleuLlama> yeah. kevin rose
03:25 < yancmo> they are doing digg podcast now
03:25 * BleuLlama just occasionally checks out the 'popular' links on del.icio.us
03:25 < Scyther> lol.
03:25 < BleuLlama> yeah
03:25 < Scyther> It's kinda stupid, really.
03:25 < yancmo> the podcast?
03:25 < Scyther> If you're a fan of either of the hosts, its good.
03:25 < Scyther> Yeah.
03:25 < Scyther> You can also get the video form, too. :-X
03:25 < yancmo> I liked it but there was way to much talking over each other.
03:25 < Scyther> lol.
03:26 < Scyther> I love Alex, but it seems he doesn't know when to stop.
03:26 < courtc> You people have problems.
03:26 < Scyther> lol, I'm proud of it, too. :-p
03:26 < yancmo> lol
03:27 < Scyther> AAAH!
03:27 < Scyther> The screen is STILL blank.
03:27 < yancmo> so am i really supposed to be able to see the video on the ipod?
03:27 < BleuLlama> wait for an installer, scyther
03:27 < yancmo> i'm watching the diving one and you can't really see anything. lol
03:27 < Scyther> It stays at command: podzilla then goes blank.
03:28 < BleuLlama> back out your changes, and wait for it to be supported
03:28 < Scyther> Any idea when one is going to come out, BleuLama?
03:28 < aegray> tomorrow
03:28 < Scyther> *Llama
03:28 < BleuLlama> every time someone asks, we push back the release date by 4 months
03:28 < yancmo> LMAO
03:28 < Scyther> Woopsie.
03:28 < BleuLlama> don't laugh. we're serious
03:29 < yancmo> :0
03:29 < Scyther> I sorta didn't know you worked on the project, BleuLlama. :-X
03:30 < aegray> i'll work on you!
03:30 < aegray> i dunno
03:30 < BleuLlama> I sorta didn't realize that mattered
03:31 < courtc> someone didn't read the site http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Contributors (a bit outdated though)
03:31 < aegray> who gets added to that recently?
03:32 < Scyther> Yeah... I read it the second Bleu said they push it back four months.
03:32 < courtc> umm.. nobody, but the descritions need to be updated
03:32 < aegray> oh yea! flashing arrows!
03:32 < Scyther> lol, I'm an idiot.
03:32 < courtc> no kidding
03:32 < Scyther> Sorry, Bleu.
03:33 < courtc> actually I want mine to be: "Podzilla developer:- ummm... yes."
03:33 < courtc> but with a lower case p
03:33 < courtc> :/
03:34 < Scyther> One last question, though.
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03:34 < courtc> uhoh
03:34 < Scyther> Do I have to remove linux completly?
03:34 < Scyther> Or should I just leave it on there?
03:34 < courtc> you don't *have* to.
03:35 < Scyther> And if I wanted to use iPod wizard to change the font a bit, would it bother linux at all?
03:35 < courtc> we don't believe in magic
03:36 < aegray> i do!
03:36 < courtc> /kick aegray
03:36 < aegray> agh!
03:36 < Scyther> lol, I take it as a no?
03:37 < linxchq> my xcode is wacked
03:37 < aegray> what do you want?
03:37 < Pokeon> Scyther, it wouldnt
03:38 < courtc> Pokeon, what are you doing?
03:38 < Pokeon> Im coding a website?
03:38 < Scyther> Thanks very much.
03:38 < courtc> oxymoron....
03:38 < courtc> /join #ipodwizardisntdiscussedinhere
03:38 < aegray> haha
03:39 < aegray> i'm in there
03:39 < Pokeon> but it was a question to do with iPL
03:39 < yancmo> could anyone help me with video conversion on mac os x for ipod video?
03:39 < aegray> aghahgahgahh!
03:39 < courtc> whatever.. get back to your coding *snicker*
03:40 < yancmo> or point me in the right place
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03:41 * Capso tries to get IPv6 on his iPod Mini 2G.
03:41 * aegray laughs at capso
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03:42 < linxchq> grr tiger....
03:42 * courtc lets Capso kick himself in the teeth.
03:42 * aegray kicks Capso in the teeth to show him what its going to feel like
03:42 < courtc> haha
03:42 < Capso> lmao
03:43 < aegray> haha courtc i was writing a googlebot for triviazone
03:43 < aegray> but i suck at regex's
03:44 < courtc> heh
03:44 < courtc> speaking of.. ...
03:45 < courtc> wow.. its hopping
03:46 < aegray> i know - its like an all night party
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03:46 < aegray> only without the booze or women or fun
03:47 * courtc has booze
03:47 * aegray does too
03:47 < courtc> at 12?
03:47 < aegray> stole it out of the cabinet
03:48 < courtc> wow, getting started early
03:48 < aegray> my dads an alcoholic
03:50 < Scyther> I'm heading out for the night.
03:50 < Scyther> Thanks again for all your help.
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03:51 < joshk> aegray: why do you have a uiuc.edu address if you're 12?
03:52 < aegray> my dad works for uiuc
03:52 < aegray> so i get one
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03:53 < joshk> yeeeeah
03:59 < Capso> Is there a special Compile of 'ping' just for the iPod?
03:59 < Capso> Built with arm-elf Toolchain?
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04:04 < yancmo> can anyone help with encoding a video on mac os x
04:04 < Synapse-> yancmo: This is #ipodlinux, not #macosx or ##apple.
04:05 < aegray> or #mencoder
04:05 < courtc> heh
04:05 < aegray> join the room #ipodlinux.video
04:05 < yancmo> thank you.
04:05 * Synapse- is in a pissy mood.
04:05 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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04:05 < yancmo> LMAO
04:05 < aegray> bahahah
04:05 < aegray> * aegray has kicked yancmo from #ipodlinux.video (screw off!)
04:06 < yancmo> gee what a welcome place
04:06 < Capso> Heh.
04:06 < aegray> bahaha
04:06 * aegray done being immature
04:06 < yancmo> :D
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04:24 < EvilDude> what a party in here
04:24 < EvilDude> aegray's still 12 too. how interesting
04:24 < aegray> i can pull down my pants and show you but then i'll have to tell the police
04:25 < EvilDude> rofl
04:25 < EvilDude> i'd rather you didnt
04:25 < EvilDude> paypal sucks :(
04:26 < aegray> :)
04:26 < EvilDude> they dont let me blow my money
04:26 < EvilDude> stupid spending limit crap
04:26 < aegray> haha
04:26 < EvilDude> and once you spend that much you cant spend anymore till you put a cc in and im too young for a cc :(
04:26 < aegray> no you're not!
04:26 < EvilDude> how can i buy a wireless router now! :(
04:26 < Capso> uclinux-2.4.24-ipod0.tar.gz contains what again?
04:26 < EvilDude> haha i'm not :P ?
04:26 < courtc> party is in #triviazone
04:26 < aegray> your mom's virginity
04:27 < aegray> damn straight courtd
04:27 < aegray> c*
04:27 < EvilDude> *joins*
04:27 < Capso> Anyone know?
04:27 * Capso forgets.
04:27 < aegray> it contains a patch to the kernel
04:27 < aegray> not from cvs
04:27 < aegray> or the lib directory
04:27 < aegray> or something
04:27 < aegray> look in it
04:27 < aegray> damn it
04:28 < Capso> lmao
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04:34 < yanagi> saw in the log earlier that an installer might be up...
04:35 < aegray> keep reading the log then
04:35 < yanagi> coudn't tell if it was sarcastic or not
04:35 < yanagi> you seemed to be one of the go-to guys though
04:36 < aegray> who me?
04:36 < yanagi> how many people contribute regularily?
04:36 < yanagi> yeah
04:36 * aegray runs and hides
04:36 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Contributors
04:37 < yanagi> see, you're video guy
04:38 < aegray> kind of.
04:38 < yanagi> Is the project based in Europe? I saw the log dated July 7th at 11 but it was only 10 or so on the sixth here in toronto
04:38 < aegray> its not based anywhere
04:39 < yanagi> or is that just freenode. I suck at this irc. just got finked irssi just now
04:39 < yanagi> stumbling through...
04:39 < yanagi> just thought I'd check this out. see you soon, watching some brutal steven king flick
04:40 < aegray> haha
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04:52 < Capso> Courtc: You there?
04:52 < courtc> no
04:52 < Capso> Where to load the Kernel Modules in iPod?
04:52 < courtc> rc
04:53 < Capso> Err, no...
04:53 < Capso> The actual Module files.
04:53 < courtc> what?
04:53 < Capso> Example: linux-2.4.24/net/ipv4/
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04:53 < Capso> And it contains all those module files.
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04:55 < courtc> /lib/modules/2.4.24-ipod4/kernel/net/ipv4/ depending on your kernel
04:55 < Capso> Courtc: And is there a way of making the iPod recognize it?
04:56 < courtc> umm.. no?
04:56 < Capso> I mean... telling it to look there.
04:56 < courtc> Its just like any other linux system..
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05:04 < joshk> well, that sucked.
05:04 < joecool> hmm?
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05:04 < joecool> JasonF: hmm??
05:05 < JasonF> is this where all the people migrated to #triviazone from?
05:05 * JasonF ponders
05:05 * JasonF pokes joecool
05:05 < joecool> rofl?
05:05 < joecool> damn he's not here
05:05 < joshk> no,
05:05 < joshk> we came here because of aegray
05:05 < joecool> i was gonna have you slap coob for dissin our patchset
05:06 < JasonF> WHO DARE MESS WITH TEH NO!
05:06 * JasonF gets out his AutoThwapper 5000
05:06 < joecool> i know.. what an ass :P
05:06 < JasonF> joshk: well you guys come back later, it's more fun w/more people
05:06 < JasonF> and usually the bot is reliable
05:06 < JasonF> speaking of which, it's alive now
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05:12 < Capso> Courtc: Sorry... was mildly confused for a bit... I got it, now.
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05:14 < Capso> Aw!
05:14 < Capso> Almsot!
05:14 < Capso> Almost!
05:14 < Capso> Damnit.
05:15 < Capso> s/Almsot/Almost
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05:32 < julz> hey, what is happenning now with the forums? did anybody figure out who hacked it? etc. i have been away for a few days
05:33 < julz> n/m, i just found the blog.
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06:10 < Capso> Hey, Courtc.
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06:43 < Capso> Hey, Joecool.
06:44 < joecool> heyh
06:49 < Capso> How is IPv4 working on the iPod without a net/ipv4/ DIR (which contains the IPv4 Files) in the modules DIR?
06:49 < Capso> Probably because of the eth Module.
06:51 < yanagi> anyone have a precompiled make_fw for the mini 2g?
06:51 < yanagi> I don't trust myself with cross-compiling
06:51 < yanagi> I'm running OS X
06:52 < yanagi> and going for a smoke
06:53 < yanagi> someone should just chuck one up on the mini 2g wiki with the other files.
06:53 < yanagi> when it works...
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06:59 < yanagi> bueller
06:59 < yanagi> bueller
06:59 * yanagi not a troll
06:59 * yanagi just a newbie
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07:19 < atriphy> i know im probably going to crap for asking but hows it lookin for 4g lookin on the site i seem to find conflictong asnwers, so i thought id ask
07:19 < joecool|sleep> zzz
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07:26 < Zyrill> check the blog: http://www.ipodlinux.org/blog/
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07:47 < yanagi> ls
07:47 < yanagi> oops
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07:54 < Capso> Does iPodLinux have a System.map?
07:54 < joecool|sleep> no
07:54 < Capso> Fsck.
07:55 < Capso> Joecool|Sleep: You sleep-talking again?
07:55 < joecool|sleep> mmm
07:55 * joecool|sleep is out now
07:55 < joecool|sleep> too much #triviazone
07:57 < Capso> lmaoa
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07:58 < Snape> as i see in the topic the db is corrupt, does it mean data loss or just a problem that can be fixed?
07:58 < Snape> and what's estimated time for repair, more than 2 weeks for example?
07:59 < Capso> What is it that you need from there?
08:00 < Snape> ITunesDB documention, 4.9 jut released and there are bunch of updates
08:00 < Snape> *just
08:00 < Capso> Ah.
08:02 < Snape> do you any other place on the net i can find updated information about it?
08:05 < EvilDude> Snape you can access it
08:05 < EvilDude> http://www.ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB
08:05 < Snape> no i can't
08:05 < Snape> i get DB error
08:06 < EvilDude> have you tried my link?
08:06 < EvilDude> it works for me :S
08:06 < Snape> can you then send the html to me plz :D ??
08:06 < EvilDude> ok
08:06 < Snape> maybe you're working offline or from the cache
08:07 < EvilDude> No, it has latest updates etc
08:07 < Snape> can you try again?
08:07 < EvilDude> its just I need the www. there or it'll give me the error
08:07 < Snape> weird
08:08 < Snape> for me it's the opposite
08:08 < Snape> i don't need it
08:08 < Snape> cool it works now ;d
08:09 < Snape> so all the site works
08:09 < EvilDude> haha
08:09 < EvilDude> just the wiki
08:09 < EvilDude> no search etc
08:09 < Snape> oh
08:09 < EvilDude> if you know url, or its linked it'll work
08:09 < Snape> the forums doesn't..
08:09 < Snape> well i really needed the itunesdb
08:09 < Snape> thx man
08:10 < EvilDude> no worries
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08:17 < Capso> God this Kernel crap is complicated.
08:17 < tspshilt> how do I boot to linux from the boot loader?
08:17 < Capso> I have to find all the *.ver Files of the 2.4.24-ipod2 Kernel that comes with the iPodLinux.
08:17 < Capso> Then I have to make my Kernel build with that.
08:17 < Capso> Fsck.
08:18 < Zyrill> just took my breakfast
08:18 < Zyrill> :)
08:18 < tspshilt> why sorry?
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08:18 < tspshilt> what ipod gen are you usingh
08:18 < tspshilt> ???
08:18 < Zyrill> ???
08:18 < Zyrill> i think i lost it...
08:19 < Zyrill> what are we talking about?
08:19 < Zyrill> lol
08:19 < tspshilt> ? ? ?
08:19 < Zyrill> yes, please, i'd love the nightlies
08:19 < tspshilt> hell if I know
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08:20 < Zyrill> well.. i think i'm talking to Caps now :) about iPod nightlies
08:20 < Zyrill> that much is certain
08:20 < Zyrill> i don't know what you're talking about tspshilt :)
08:20 < tspshilt> nor do I, i only just came on
08:20 < tspshilt> well
08:20 < tspshilt> how do I boot to linux from the boot loader? (on the ipod)
08:21 < tspshilt> -
08:21 < Zyrill> hold left... or "hold" depends on the loader you're using
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08:21 < Capso> Zyrill: Check your PM.
08:22 < Zyrill> which pms?
08:22 < tspshilt> ?
08:22 < Zyrill> sure you paged it to me?
08:22 < tspshilt> still waiting
08:22 < yanagi> what cross-compiler do I need for the mini 2g? (and OS X)
08:22 < tspshilt> are you referring to the "previous song button"
08:23 < tspshilt> ow
08:23 < Zyrill> yes
08:23 < Zyrill> :)
08:23 < tspshilt> stillll waiting...
08:23 < yanagi> it depends on how you installed it and which bootloader
08:23 < tspshilt> well, I think there is a mistake I made somewhere
08:24 < Zyrill> try flinging it at the wall
08:24 < Zyrill> it usually helps...
08:24 < yanagi> hehe
08:24 < Zyrill> ...not necessarily getting it to run, but to relieve stress, it does wonders
08:24 < tspshilt> i think that the kernal.bin thing
08:24 < tspshilt> i was supposed to use
08:24 < tspshilt> was replaced with the kernal root from the .tar.gz file
08:25 < tspshilt> or however you wish to word it
08:25 < Zyrill> Capso: which PM?
08:25 < tspshilt> s*it, still doing nothing
08:27 < tspshilt> fruck this
08:27 < tspshilt> anybody know where to get uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.bin
08:27 < tspshilt> cause I used the .tar.gz
08:28 < tspshilt> err...
08:29 < Capso> Zyrill: Look in private message.
08:29 < Zyrill> yes, well, which private message??? i didn't get anything in irc, if that's what you mean - it's not that i'm a noob... i don't have any pm - that's what i mean
08:31 < yanagi> cvs?
08:33 < Capso> Zyrill: I said something in PM to you just now.
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08:41 < Zyrill> I'll be at the university now... catch you guys later
08:42 < tspshilt> stuff this then
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08:54 < yanagi> okay, i found the toolchain
08:55 < yanagi> I've compiled my bootloader
08:55 < yanagi> I have the podzilla and the linux.bin from the wiki for the 2g mini
08:55 < yanagi> what is the my_sw.bin referenced in the mac installation?
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09:00 < yanagi> okay, that's the new image
09:00 < yanagi> created by make_fw
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09:14 < Snape> i've noticed something
09:14 < Snape> in the windows ipod
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09:14 < Snape> that in itunes 4.9, they make the songs filenames irrelevant to the real song name
09:14 < Snape> like gibrish
09:15 < Snape> i think they do it on purpose so softwares like ephpod
09:15 < Snape> can't copy the songs from the ipod to the computer
09:16 < RandomUser57> hello, sorry about asking this here, but the forums are down and im sure its in there somewhere, ive installed ipl and when it finishes booting i get a black screen, i know in the installation it says i should change the contrast, but i dont know how, can anyone help?
09:16 < Snape> move the ipod closer to a lamp and try to get in the menu to it
09:16 < Snape> it suppose to be in settings
09:16 < Snape> contrast
09:17 < RandomUser57> i cant see settings, i have a black screen
09:17 < Snape> if after you move it closer to a lamp u still see only black then it is a problem with how you've installed/compiled or your ipod is not suitable
09:18 < RandomUser57> ok
09:18 < Snape> what ipod do you have?
09:18 < Capso> Man I'm so close.
09:21 < RandomUser57> 4g
09:21 < Snape> there are still some people who have this problem
09:21 < Snape> i'm not sure if it is fixed
09:21 < Snape> maybe someone here knows what to do
09:24 < RandomUser57> i managed to get it to reset (by the ipl menu), so i know its all installed, i just cant see anything
09:24 < Capso> RandomUser57: Try removing /etc/podzilla.conf on your iPod and reboot.
09:24 < RandomUser57> ok
09:26 < yanagi> exit
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09:33 < yanagi> yeah I got a boot screen
09:33 < yanagi> failing out to first person mode though
09:34 < yanagi> don't think I set up the fs right
09:35 < yanagi> I'm happy with today's work though. since I started on this channel with how do I compile?
09:44 < RandomUser57> ok, it all works now, i restored the ipod and did a reinstall, i must have done something wrong the first time, thanks everone
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13:12 < maskd> hey there, did they find out who screwed around with the forums?
13:13 < maskd> opening it with ie caused a dramatic domino effect with my computer dying, lol.
13:16 < onglipo> apparently there was an attack; sad
13:16 < onglipo> its been down since last fri
13:17 < Snape> the al-qaida attacked london as well as the website ;\
13:17 < onglipo> see the blog
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13:18 < onglipo> ie exploit ; so if you used ie to view forums, you might want to check for trouble
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13:31 < neutral_insomnia> hello
13:32 < neutral_insomnia> i don't mean to sound annoying, because i'm not sure if someone has brought this up yet, but the nightly builds section of the ipodlinux website is forbidden...
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14:03 < Zyrill> neutral_insomnia: it's know...
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14:17 < projectmayhem> hey
14:18 < projectmayhem> hello
14:20 < projectmayhem> anyone around? i'm a noob lookin' for some more info
14:20 < t0mas> read the wiki
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14:22 < courtc> adam!
14:23 < aegray> courtney!
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14:24 < projectmayhem> sorry back
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14:54 < Daishi> even though ipodlinux.org and www.ipodlinux.org point to the same ip the one without www gives me an error
14:55 < aegray> thats because your mean
14:56 < Snape> for me it's opposite
14:56 < Snape> the one with www gives me an error
14:56 < BleuLlama> you're*
14:56 < Z_Man> what's taking soo long for the piezo to be implemented in the kernel? i'm not trying to criticize anyone but it seems like if it was put in podzilla it would be easier to be put in the kernel...
14:56 < BleuLlama> all of them give me errors
14:56 < aegray> me too
14:56 < BleuLlama> oh. no... that's not errors, it's heartburn
14:57 < courtc> Z_Man, umm... no
14:57 < hyarion> thanks man, now I can access the wiki :D
14:57 < BleuLlama> Z_Man: geez. i thought *I* was an asshole
14:57 < aegray> Z_Man, umm who cares
14:57 < Z_Man> geez you guys. i was just wondering
14:57 < courtc> you figure out how to implement the piezo on an IRQ and we'll put it in the kernel.. jackass.
14:58 < aegray> haha
14:58 < aegray> ...jackass
14:58 < BleuLlama> aegray: what's taking so long to do audio with movie playback? Quicktime Player does it...
14:58 < aegray> seriously - i should stop being so lazy
14:58 < BleuLlama> damnit. you're not supposed to agree with me
14:58 < aegray> i mean - all it will take is a thread to play mp3's and it will work!
14:58 < aegray> sorry
14:58 < BleuLlama> yeah.
14:58 < aegray> ...jackass
14:58 < aegray> hehe
14:58 < BleuLlama> it's JUST THAT EASY
14:59 < aegray> i know!
14:59 < BleuLlama> jackass.
14:59 < courtc> dude, just port xine
14:59 < BleuLlama> or mplayer
14:59 < BleuLlama> or vnc
14:59 < Daishi> i feel bad for jack
14:59 < aegray> oh forgot that - then we could have divx!
14:59 < BleuLlama> er vlc. heh
14:59 < Daishi> port mplayer before you port xine
14:59 < BleuLlama> and I could have had a V8
14:59 < Z_Man> sorry guys. i guess i dont really understand at all the hardware of anything....
14:59 < aegray> i should port directx to the ipod!
14:59 < BleuLlama> or port pearpc, and just run quicktime player
15:00 < Z_Man> how it works. how to program it... anything
15:00 < Daishi> no no port wine first
15:00 < aegray> vmware
15:00 < aegray> i like that better
15:00 < courtc> bochs
15:00 < BleuLlama> SCUMMVM!
15:00 < Daishi> vmware isnt going to work well
15:00 < Daishi> heh bochs
15:00 < BleuLlama> DOOM!
15:00 < BleuLlama> EXCLAMATION!
15:00 < Daishi> i second the porting doom motion
15:00 * aegray plays doom on his ipod
15:01 < BleuLlama> Daishi: we're not serious. we're talking about absurd things.
15:01 < Z_Man> you figure out how to implement the piezo on an IRQ and we'll put it in the kernel.. jackass. --> courtc: what
15:01 < aegray> what?
15:01 < Z_Man> is different about putting it in the kernel?
15:01 < Z_Man> sorry
15:01 < courtc> huh?
15:01 < aegray> wuzza?
15:01 < courtc> the IRQ part
15:01 < BleuLlama> Z_Man: Translation: It's not as trival as you, with all of your software background, thinks it is
15:01 < BleuLlama> s/thinks/think
15:02 < _KDE> bleullama: about the dialer; is 2600hz the seize or the break frequency? ^^
15:02 < BleuLlama> KDE: that's an exercise left to the reader.
15:02 < courtc> haha.. share a pint, punny
15:02 < Daishi> BleuLlama: im aware
15:02 < Z_Man> courtc: how is it done in podzilla (without IRQ)? i'm trying to learn here...
15:03 < BleuLlama> utsl
15:04 < courtc> outl(inl(0x70000010) & ~0xc, 0x70000010);
15:04 < courtc> outl(inl(0x6000600c) | 0x20000, 0x6000600c); /* enable device */
15:04 < courtc> for (i = 0; i < 0x888; i++ ) {
15:04 < courtc> outl(0x80000000 | 0x800000 | i, 0x7000a000); /* set pitch */
15:04 < courtc> }
15:04 < courtc> outl(0x0, 0x7000a000); /* piezo off */
15:04 < courtc> ^-- like that
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15:04 < BleuLlama> um. don't flood the channel you stupid bastard.
15:04 < Z_Man> i wish that meant something to me.. lol.
15:04 * aegray does the doggy paddle
15:04 < Z_Man> lol
15:05 < courtc> I have enough credits for a flood
15:05 * t0mas reads and wonders what that first line is for?
15:05 * Daishi puts on his yellow swimmies
15:06 < t0mas> outl(inl(0x70000010) & ~0xc, 0x70000010);
15:06 < t0mas> that one
15:06 < courtc> !credit_bot credits_remaining
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15:06 < courtc> ooh look I'm the credit bot
15:06 < aegray> CREDIT BOT: 9353
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15:06 < credit_bot> -5 courtc
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15:06 < Z_Man> on the 2g mini. it says that three is now audio support! does the CPU work at full speed too? i couldnt find that information...
15:06 < aegray> yes
15:06 < Z_Man> great
15:06 < Z_Man> thanks
15:07 < EiGHTBALLx> davidc... are you there?
15:07 < aegray> 350mhz
15:07 < t0mas> courtc?
15:07 < Z_Man> you guys are awesome
15:07 < courtc> /kick credit_bot
15:07 < t0mas> outl(inl(0x70000010) & ~0xc, 0x70000010);
15:07 < t0mas> that line
15:07 < t0mas> what is that for?
15:07 < BleuLlama> YES. WE CAN READ.
15:07 < BleuLlama> aegray: I thought it was 80pHz?
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15:07 < aegray> i made shit up
15:07 < t0mas> needed to enable device too?
15:07 < Z_Man> lol
15:07 < aegray> if i could get on the website i would tell you t0mas
15:07 < aegray> but i can't, so i won't
15:08 < t0mas> :)
15:08 < EiGHTBALLx> why cant you get on the site? i can
15:08 < t0mas> it just looked strange to me
15:08 < Snape> anyone knows iTunesDB format good here?
15:08 < aegray> well*
15:08 < EiGHTBALLx> i still cant log in tho :(
15:08 < courtc> the wiki does
15:09 < courtc> EiGHTBALLx, -caps
15:09 < Snape> i've read it
15:09 < Snape> it's just i'm not sure about one thing
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15:09 < courtc> obey me!
15:10 < courtc> heh ;)
15:10 < eightballx> i ususally have it non caps, thx for reminding me!
15:10 < courtc> Snape, what one thing?
15:11 < Snape> it's about the podcasts
15:11 < courtc> ummm
15:11 < Snape> in itunes 4.9 podcasts are added
15:11 < Snape> and i see their mhod is different
15:12 < Snape> what i want to ask is if they are apart of the mhit list?
15:12 < Snape> i mean unlike all other mhod's
15:12 < Snape> which are in different mhsd's
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15:12 < Snape> in addition to the songs, the special mhod's of the podcasts are there, right?
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15:13 < Snape> the mhsd of the podcasts is just a list right? the actual podcast song and its settings is in the song list, right?
15:13 < eightballx> are you there davidc__
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15:16 < Snape> well i am guessing i'm right
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15:16 < Snape> it makes sense after all
15:17 < courtc> yea, seems plausable
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15:25 < _KDE> raim? you're german?
15:26 < Raim> yes
15:26 < _KDE> #ipodlinux.de
15:27 < BleuLlama> http://www.flickr.com/photos/petromyzon/23406172/in/set-538195/
15:27 < BleuLlama> :D
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15:33 < Snape> "The string is probably UTF-8, but only Unicode symbols U+0000 through U+007F (a.k.a ASCII) have been observed."
15:33 < Snape> anybody knows how i decode/encode in utf-8?
15:35 < Z_Man> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4661059.stm <-- holy crap! we're all gonna die!
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15:36 < courtc> Z_Man, not funny.
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15:36 < eightballx> yeh thats harsh, my friends dad was injured in that blast
15:37 < BleuLlama> bern heard the bus...
15:37 < eightballx> is bern in uk?
15:37 < eightballx> who here is uk based?
15:38 < Z_Man> courtc: i was saying it was funny
15:38 < Z_Man> i'm serious
15:38 < courtc> *wasn't then (I hope)
15:38 < Z_Man> no i'm not no terrorist
15:39 < _KDE> not no?
15:39 < _KDE> so you are one?
15:39 < courtc> not no grammar specialist either.
15:40 < onglipo> terrible - hope they're not behind defacing and destroying the forum
15:40 < _KDE> ^^
15:41 < Z_Man> KDE: yeah um. i have bad english
15:41 < Z_Man> lol
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15:42 < onglipo> me no engles
15:42 * BleuLlama tries to figure out good ways to wire up dock connectors.
15:42 < aegray> your saying it was funny?
15:43 < onglipo> no it's +vely unfunny
15:43 < courtc> courtc: i was saying it was funny
15:43 < courtc> mna
15:44 < onglipo> any idea when the dbadmin's back from vacation?
15:45 < courtc> when they close down aruba
15:45 < onglipo> lol
15:47 < courtc> Really, we have no cause to complain. Sys-Techs(sys-techs.com) sponsors our hosting entirely.
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15:48 < onglipo> beggars cant be blah blah
15:49 < courtc> choosers can be beggers though.
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15:50 < onglipo> dont get much to choose from i guess
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15:51 < courtc> umm...
15:51 < courtc> what?
15:51 < aegray> /ignore weird comments
15:51 < onglipo> hey what does the ipod_beep() do on an x11 podzilla?
15:51 < BleuLlama> linux people are like lepers. we get what we can, as far as server hosting. i guess.
15:52 < onglipo> i am running the metronome on the desktop - no sound yet! it works fine on the ipod
15:52 < aegray> ooo - the much awaited metronome! i've been needing that for soo long!
15:52 < courtc> although we love the poeple at sys-techs *cough* Wammy *cough* for helping us out.
15:52 < aegray> years - decades even
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15:53 < onglipo> its' already there.
15:53 < _KDE> qqqqwweerrttzzuuiiooppüü++aassddffgghhjjkkllööää##< :-)
15:53 < aegray> was there a point to that?
15:53 < BleuLlama> that's the most intelligent thin you've said all month, KDE
15:53 < onglipo> the keyboard demo you mean
15:53 < _KDE> thx :)
15:54 < courtc> damn qwertz keyboarders
15:54 < _KDE> :P
15:56 < Sereroku> -.-
15:56 < Vanquisher> :D
15:56 < Sereroku> qwerty
15:56 < Sereroku> ^^
15:57 < Vanquisher> w00t
15:58 < davidc__> eightballx: what do ya want?
15:59 < aegray> angry tone from davidc__
15:59 < aegray> i love it
15:59 < aegray> jk
15:59 * davidc__ smites aegray
15:59 < courtc> (davidc__->mood & IMPATIENT) == TRUE
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16:01 < iplDUDE> hello
16:01 < davidc__> eh, eightballx messaged me about something at some point
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16:17 < Z_Man> hmmm
16:18 < Z_Man> on my 2g mini, podzilla is running but nothing is displayed in the LCD, i know it's running because i'm able to turn on the LCD backlight
16:18 < Z_Man> it worked
16:18 < Z_Man> all i did was update the songs on my ipod, and then it doesnt work anymore
16:18 < Z_Man> i'm not even running the newest firmware
16:18 < Raim> check the contrast setting?
16:19 < Z_Man> yeah, but how?
16:19 < Z_Man> i cant see anything
16:19 < Z_Man> can i see the podzilla settings through my PC?
16:19 < Raim> mh, you even can't see anything if you watch diagonal to the LCD?
16:20 < Z_Man> nope
16:21 < Raim> sorry... no idea, I've not that experienced
16:21 < Z_Man> hmm
16:21 < Z_Man> now the LCD backlight wont turn on
16:22 < BleuLlama> I thought newest firmware didn't work with ipl/
16:23 < Z_Man> i said it isnt the newest firmware
16:23 < BleuLlama> misread
16:24 < Z_Man> ok
16:24 < Z_Man> can i reset podzilla's settings?
16:24 < BleuLlama> rm /path/to/podzilla.conf
16:24 < Z_Man> ok
16:25 < BleuLlama> do you see the boot text scrolling by?
16:25 < Z_Man> yep
16:25 < Z_Man> and then podzilla starts
16:25 < Z_Man> and then it shows a little vertical line on the right side of the screen
16:25 < Z_Man> and the LCD goes blank
16:26 < Z_Man> but i can still start the LCD backlight...
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16:27 < courtc> hmm.. bored, triviazone time
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16:29 < Z_Man> BleuLlama: podzilla isnt even there when i mount my ipod in windows
16:29 < Z_Man> hmm
16:29 < Z_Man> it's like it deleted itself
16:29 < Z_Man> or moved itself
16:29 < Zyrill> why not go over the whole installation-procedure again?
16:29 < Zyrill> or maybe you moved/deleted/b0rked it
16:29 < Z_Man> i didnt
16:29 < Z_Man> doesnt the start script move it?
16:30 < Z_Man> from /hp to /sbin ??
16:30 < Zyrill> yup it does
16:30 < Z_Man> yeah
16:30 < Z_Man> hmmm
16:30 < Zyrill> are you running windows?
16:30 < Zyrill> which ipod do you have?
16:30 < Z_Man> windows and 2g min
16:31 < Z_Man> mini*
16:31 < Zyrill> check http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer then
16:31 < Z_Man> i
16:31 < Z_Man> used that
16:31 < Zyrill> k... and you used new nightlies?
16:31 < Zyrill> because the ones that come with that package are still buggy...
16:31 < Zyrill> you need newer ones..
16:31 < Zyrill> and they're down atm
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16:32 < Z_Man> no i used the ones i downloaded off the 2g_mini page on the wiki
16:32 < Zyrill> hah k... no experience with mini..
16:32 < Zyrill> cant help you then
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16:33 < leachbj> BleuLlama, you've seen the 4g display problem with the latest apple firmware right?
16:33 < _KDE> what's the problem?
16:33 < davidc__> hmm, I just discovered the nightlies _haven_T been building while down
16:34 < _KDE> davidc__: lol
16:34 < davidc__> they'll build now
16:34 < Zyrill> did you fix the web as well?
16:34 < davidc__> web?
16:34 < davidc__> they're not accessable via the web for a reason
16:34 < _KDE> but then there aren't nightlys for over a month...
16:35 < davidc__> try 3 days.
16:35 < Zyrill> what about http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/
16:35 < davidc__> its been down for 2-3 days.
16:35 < Zyrill> ?
16:35 < Zyrill> those are nightlies are they not?
16:35 < _KDE> as davidc said
16:35 < davidc__> Zyrill: they're not there b/c that gets proxied to my server
16:35 < Zyrill> well they'd be if they were up
16:35 < Zyrill> owwwwww... ok :)
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16:35 < davidc__> and I'm over my bandwidth quota
16:35 < Zyrill> makes sense, that...
16:36 < Zyrill> did you try offering torrents?
16:36 < _KDE> hey zyrill: are you german? ^^
16:36 < davidc__> when vet gets back, I'm gonna setup a FTP upload
16:36 < Zyrill> _KDE: is my english that bad?
16:36 < _KDE> i just ask :)
16:36 < davidc__> Zyrill: haha, for a 700kb nightly
16:36 < davidc__> the torrent would be bigger
16:36 < Zyrill> really?
16:36 < davidc__> its the recursive dl'ers who kill my bandwidth
16:36 < Zyrill> _KDE: as a matter of fact i am :)
16:36 < Z_Man> brb
16:36 < Z_Man> rebooting to SuSE
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16:36 < _KDE> zyrill: I'M too ;)
16:37 < Zyrill> heh welllll... to be quite precise i'm half austrian, so i'm superior to you in many respects - my ego for example, mind - it's WAY bigger!
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16:50 < Tonkajds> have any of you heard about the bombings?
16:51 < courtc> yes
16:51 < _KDE> yes...
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17:15 < Mac64> hello
17:16 < Mac64> Bi-noix: here :D
17:19 < davidc__> Wammy: you around?
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17:31 < davidc__> hey all. Does anyone have a copy of that ntrojan that was being distributed via the viewthread page?
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17:34 < fre_ber> I might have...
17:35 < davidc__> if you could get it to me, it would be appreciated
17:35 < davidc__> its time to exact some revenge
17:35 < fre_ber> No, it looks like I removed it.. :(
17:35 < fre_ber> I will look again. ;)
17:35 < fre_ber> *What was the name of the file again?
17:37 < Sereroku> ich habe einen 4G iPod mit 40Gb zu verkaufen, privat melden wenn interesse bseteht, danke ;)
17:37 < Sereroku> sorry
17:37 < Sereroku> ^^
17:37 < davidc__> dunno
17:37 < davidc__> d'you know the server name or anything?
17:37 < BleuLlama> stop with the "^^" crap
17:37 < Sereroku> got a 4G iPod with 40Gig 4 sell ;)
17:37 < davidc__> Sereroku: we're on an ipod trading channel
17:37 < davidc__> Sereroku: we're about ipl
17:38 < davidc__> *we're not
17:38 < Sereroku> i just ask
17:38 < Bi-noix> hi Mac64
17:38 < Mac64> :)
17:38 < Mac64> how are you?
17:39 < Mac64> Bi-noix: you know that my new iPod who i have received today is broken?
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17:41 < fre_ber> Ah, I found it.
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17:42 < OMG> is there a known problem with viPodzilla on a g2 mini?
17:42 < davidc__> g2 mini isn't supportedf
17:42 < fre_ber> Careful: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/newexpl.php.txt
17:43 < OMG> well, that explains a few things. i can get normal podzilla to run, no sound but it runs
17:43 < courtc> bingo
17:43 < BleuLlama> wow. problems with an unsupported podzilla on an unsupported platform. nice
17:43 < davidc__> fre_ber.. so it was an outlook thing?
17:43 < davidc__> strange
17:43 < fre_ber> Yes, probably.
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17:44 < OMG> is the normal mini even slightly supported?
17:44 < Izz^> W000000 got my new iPod!
17:44 * Izz^ bounces
17:44 < Izz^> Hmm.. .this is new (to me) - its entry in iTunes is expandable, showing the podcasts and playlists on the iPod.
17:45 < courtc> nothing above 3g is officially supported
17:45 < OMG> okey. ill remove it untill it is.
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17:47 < Izz^> Gah, I really shouldn't have included the firewire cable in my auction of my old iPod, should I?
17:47 < Izz^> Should have kept hold of it.
17:48 < Izz^> I can't image the USB is *that* much slower though.
17:48 < veteran> hi
17:48 < Zyrill> its not
17:48 < kenichi41> hi veteran
17:48 < courtc> veteran!
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17:49 < Tonkajds> well he wasnt here long :(
17:50 < OMG> lollage
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17:52 < Luke> vet
17:52 < Luke> .org
17:53 < Tonkajds> he already quit
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17:54 < Luke> damn
17:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke
17:54 -!- dobey-eat is now known as dobey
17:54 < Tonkajds> he was here fopr percisely 3 minutes then quit
17:54 < Tonkajds> *for
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17:55 < BleuLlama> if you have usb 1.x on your computer, it is SIGNIFICANTLY slower than firewire, IZZ
17:55 < courtc> depp (apache@84-218-21-85.eurobelladsl.telenor.se) == veteran (apache@84.218.21.85)
17:56 < Luke> he sneaky
17:57 < Luke> i dont think that was really vet =)
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17:57 < Izz^> Nah, I've got an iBook G4
17:57 < courtc> sweden? probably not.
17:57 < Luke> hehe
17:58 < BleuLlama> Izz: which generation? new or older?
17:58 < fre_ber> It wasn't me, I promise.
17:58 < Izz^> 1.33GHz
17:58 < Izz^> 7200rpm HD :D
17:58 < BleuLlama> you got it late last year?
17:58 < Izz^> Yeah.
17:59 < Izz^> Replaced my 1GHz 12" one :)
17:59 < BleuLlama> yeah. that one has USB 2.0. you should be good to go with it.
17:59 * BleuLlama nods
17:59 < BleuLlama> speedy transfers, etc.
17:59 < courtc> guru BleuLlama
17:59 < Izz^> The firewire cable feels somehow 'nicer' though.
17:59 < Izz^> ..softer, or something.
17:59 < Izz^> But, I put it in the auction description and someone has bid now. Bugger.
17:59 < BleuLlama> well, it's dedicated. you won't be sharing the bus with your keyboard, mouse, printer, etc...
17:59 < Izz^> Yeah, that's the other reason.
18:00 < Izz^> Not worth spending $20 on another one though.
18:00 < BleuLlama> courtc: nah. i just know how to look things up on http://www.apple-history.com
18:00 < Izz^> I did buy the AV cable though! Might be handy.
18:00 < BleuLlama> although their ipod specs are wrong
18:00 < BleuLlama> you have a photo?
18:00 < dobey> you don't have a firewire keyboard, mouse, or printer?
18:00 < dobey> shame
18:01 < BleuLlama> well, firewire keyboard and mouse don't exist.
18:01 < BleuLlama> Izz: which ipod did you get?
18:02 < Izz^> The new 'with color screen' one.
18:02 < onglipo> is there some unofficial photo recording support files around?
18:02 < BleuLlama> gotcha
18:02 < Izz^> Ooh, iTunes is "optimizing" my photos from iPhoto now.
18:02 < BleuLlama> you might want to get applecare on it
18:03 < Izz^> Really?
18:03 < Izz^> :|
18:03 < Izz^> Is it expensive?
18:03 < BleuLlama> just ask at the apple dealer you got the ipod from
18:03 < BleuLlama> they can explain what it covers
18:03 < Izz^> We don't really have Apple dealers in this country. I bought it from Apple store online.
18:03 < BleuLlama> aah. then check the website. ;)
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18:04 < Izz^> I've never paid for extended warranty on anything before.
18:05 < Izz^> $59
18:05 < BleuLlama> is that all it is? damn. well worth it
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18:06 < courtc> I'm thinking the new 'color ipods' have a pp5022... "Up to 15 hour battery life"
18:06 < davidc__> perhaps
18:06 < davidc__> I'd like to see inside one
18:07 < BleuLlama> the color ipods are the same as ipod photo
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18:07 < davidc__> BleuLlama: you sure they don't sue the new CPU?
18:08 < davidc__> *use
18:08 < davidc__> the 5022 is a lot nicer
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18:08 < BleuLlama> well photo claimed to be 15 hour, and my friend in the industry said it was identical hardware
18:08 < davidc__> k
18:08 < courtc> did the photo now?
18:09 < dobey> hrmm
18:09 < dobey> i can't seem to reboot my ipod
18:09 < Izz^> Sure you can.
18:09 < courtc> I'm betting thats complete bs.
18:09 < courtc> (15 hour battry life)
18:09 < Izz^> I plug mine in every time I get home anyway.
18:10 < dobey> courtc: the review i saw on ipodlounge.com says they actually got about 17 hours
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18:10 < courtc> turned off?
18:10 < dobey> Izz^: holding center+menu doesn't seem to do anything
18:10 < aegray> lol
18:10 < Izz^> dobey - is the hold switch off?
18:11 < corpix> dobey: keep holding
18:11 < BleuLlama> hold it for 10 seconds
18:11 < dobey> Izz^: yeah
18:11 < onglipo> you can always open it remove the battery and put it back
18:11 < Izz^> That seems extreme.
18:11 < Izz^> Why don't you try running it totally down, or plugging it into the mains (or both).
18:12 < Izz^> I must say, I thought the text would look better on the colour iPod.
18:12 < Izz^> It looks sort of fuzzy to me.
18:13 < BleuLlama> i agree. i played with a photo a few months ago, and the text was way too antialiased...
18:13 < BleuLlama> it was hard to read
18:13 * BleuLlama happy with his 4g
18:13 < Izz^> I bet podzilla looks okay :)
18:13 < Izz^> Daymn, takes a long time to do the initial copying of tunes and photos.
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18:14 < ionrock> dobey, are you installing it now?
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18:14 < garrett> hey all
18:14 < ionrock> hi garrett !!!
18:16 < dobey> damn monkeys
18:17 < courtc> you have monkeys at your house?
18:17 < dobey> no. i'm in an office full of primates
18:18 < corpix> hmm, so you work together with primates in an office ?
18:18 < corpix> interesting
18:19 < corpix> is this some social experiment ?
18:19 < dobey> yeah, a bunch of monkeys that work on gnome
18:20 < Izz^> Heh.. .I think I have to spend hours sorting out my album art now :)
18:20 * Izz^ wonders if they could have made the album art take up fewer pixels if they tried
18:20 < Izz^> Hehehe - Aqua-style progress bars.
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18:32 < onglipo> exit
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18:34 < iPL-Fan> hello
18:34 < iPL-Fan> what's up with the forums ATM? ^^
18:35 < corpix> check the blog
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18:35 < iPL-Fan> k thx
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18:37 < Izz^> Finally synced. Time for GoPod!
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18:41 < Izz^> Crap!
18:41 < Izz^> It broke my iPod!
18:41 < courtc> what the sledgehammer? It does that y'know.
18:42 < Tonkajds> wtf is 'gopod'?
18:42 < dobey> it's a kick-start for your moPod
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18:42 < Izz^> It removes the volume limit on the iPod.
18:43 < Tonkajds> lmao uh huh
18:44 < Tonkajds> movies
18:44 < Tonkajds> wrong box -- sorry
18:44 < Izz^> I've got a folder/! mark now :)
18:44 < Tonkajds> movies
18:45 -!- DaveCGI566 [~3ef5a012@teppic.demon.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux
18:45 < Tonkajds> it seems that two keyboards is more than i can keep track of
18:45 < courtc> hey DaveCGI566!
18:45 < Tonkajds> :(
18:45 < courtc> Tonkajds, synergy
18:45 < _KDE> hi courtc
18:45 < Tonkajds> for two differant computers?
18:45 < _KDE> ^^
18:45 < Izz^> Hmm, there's a way to restore the firmware without wiping it, isn't there.
18:46 < Izz^> Guess I'll try ipodlounge.com :)
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18:46 < courtc> Tonkajds, thats what its for.
18:46 < courtc> synergy2.sf.net
18:46 < Tonkajds> do you have a link
18:46 < Tonkajds> lol, thanks
18:46 < Tonkajds> im going to start calling you "Radar"
18:47 < Tonkajds> ;)
18:48 < courtc> what, because I know where everything is?
18:48 < Tonkajds> no, because you answer questions before their asked
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18:49 < Tonkajds> have you ever watched M*A*S*H?
18:49 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-62-245-160-18.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux
18:49 < courtc> only in passing
18:50 < Tonkajds> remember the char. 'radar?'
18:50 < BleuLlama> does he know the future, or are you all just very predictable
18:51 < Izz^> I knew you'd ask that.
18:52 < Tonkajds> well, now you tell me the answer to that
18:52 < courtc> Perhaps I've just asked all the same questions myself. (though admittedly the were all to google)
18:53 < Izz^> Anyone know how to run iPod Updater without wiping? (Ie. force it to Update mode?{
18:53 < Tonkajds> sure. . .
18:53 < Tonkajds> break it
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18:54 < Tonkajds> now im using 3 keyboards
18:54 < Tonkajds> but just for today
18:55 < _KDE> 3 keyboards ^^
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19:08 < BleuLlama> cool. Computer Geeks has the dock-firewire/usb cable for $12
19:08 < BleuLlama> http://www.compgeeks.com
19:09 < Mac64> re
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19:12 * DaveCGI566 is here
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19:12 < Tonkajds> not bad
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19:20 < Tonkajds> im happy now
19:21 < Tonkajds> i just got my italk
19:23 < Izz^> Cool, fixed my iPod by getting the firmware file out of the updater package and copying it straight to the iPod.
19:23 < BleuLlama> anyone know if the 3.3v on the dock is powered by the ipod?
19:23 < Izz^> Stupid update program.
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19:31 < Tonkajds> lol
19:32 < Izz^> Well... if anyone cares: don't use GOpod with your new iPod color
19:32 < Snape> how's that iPod Color?
19:32 < Snape> is it better than photo?
19:33 < Izz^> It's the same.
19:33 < Snape> so why did they changed the name?
19:33 * BleuLlama needs to hit Radio Shack on the way home, to buy: 5 rca jacks, experimenter's perfboard, power jack, and a 1k resistor
19:33 < Izz^> Because they're all 'photo' now
19:33 < Izz^> So they don't differentiate.
19:33 < BleuLlama> i actually believe apple calls them "iPod with color screen" and "color iPod" now
19:33 < Snape> what do you mean all?
19:34 < Snape> they don't sell 4g anymore?
19:34 < BleuLlama> apple has 3 styles of ipods available right now: shuffle, mini, and color
19:34 < Izz^> It is 4g.
19:34 < BleuLlama> no 4g
19:34 < Izz^> They don't sell monochrome ones.
19:34 < Izz^> Just go to http://www.ipod.com and look!
19:34 < Snape> i see..
19:34 < BleuLlama> color iPod is not 4g
19:34 < Izz^> Errr...
19:34 < Izz^> Well Steve Jobs disagrees.
19:34 < Snape> i don't get the point of renaming it to color
19:34 < Izz^> He said the new iPods are "still 4th generation"
19:35 < Snape> and photo is 4g?
19:35 < Snape> i mean photo=color
19:35 < BleuLlama> they didn't rename it to color, they made all of the standard ipods have a color screen, and dropped "Photo" from the name
19:35 < Izz^> Yes.
19:35 < Izz^> And yes.
19:35 < Snape> if you got photo it will be the same if you buy color, right?
19:35 < BleuLlama> yes
19:36 < BleuLlama> as far as we know, photo hardware = ipod color hardware
19:36 < Snape> k
19:36 < Snape> cool
19:36 < BleuLlama> it's just that they sell 20 and 60gb color screen ipods now
19:36 < Snape> meaning you can put linux there
19:36 < BleuLlama> and the U2 has a color screen now too
19:37 < Snape> pitty for me, i just bought the mini cause i wanted photo but couldn't afford it
19:37 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i like my monochrome 20gb 4g.
19:37 < Snape> i think i would got the color if i could
19:37 < courtc> the engineers disagree with Jobs. 1g = 0x1; 2g = 0x2; 3g = 0x3; mini = 0x4; 4g = 0x5; 5g = 0x6; mini2 = 0x7
19:37 < Snape> 5g?
19:37 < Snape> color is 5g?
19:37 < courtc> photo
19:37 < BleuLlama> and the 3rd party developers disagree with that... to them photo/color is "5g" heh.
19:37 < Izz^> NO
19:38 < Izz^> There is no "5g" :P
19:38 < courtc> technically the 4g was the 5th gen
19:38 < Snape> well i've heard mini suppose to be the door to the 5g
19:38 < BleuLlama> i'm not saying it's not, courtc... ;)
19:39 < BleuLlama> courtc: in your table above did you mean: Photo/color = 0x6?
19:39 < courtc> and I wasn't refuting you BleuLlama ;)
19:39 < courtc> yup
19:39 < BleuLlama> hehe. k
19:40 < BleuLlama> i want someone to give me a 1gb shuffle that i can use as a thumb drive. ;)
19:40 < courtc> one that happens to play music
19:40 < BleuLlama> yep
19:41 < courtc> I want someone to give me a 60gb photo.
19:41 < BleuLlama> i used to have a 64mb thumb drive that had a voice recorder and mp3 player in it...
19:41 < BleuLlama> no idea what happened to it though. :(
19:41 < courtc> s/60gb photo/rolls royce/
19:41 < BleuLlama> i need to convice my dad to send me his 60gb color.
19:42 < BleuLlama> "dad, i'll send you this collectible 1g 10gb as a trade for your 60gb color!"
19:42 < courtc> heh
19:42 < Izz^> Bum - can't get to the nightly builds either.
19:42 < BleuLlama> RAR3!!! !MINT!!!!
19:43 < Izz^> Is there any hope for the iPL site, or is it just going to take a lot of effort to put it back together?
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19:45 < Snape> read topic
19:46 < Snape> just waiting for the admin..
19:46 < Toonman> anyone had much experiecen with gtkpod ? , not sure i'm in the rightt spot sorry if not
19:48 < dobey> gtkpod sucks
19:48 < dobey> but i don't know what else to use :)
19:49 < Toonman> no doubt it does, i've got some problems havaing it read my ipod
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19:49 < dobey> but this channel is for ipodlinux.org and is more about running linux on the ipod
19:49 < dobey> rather than using linux to sync up the ipod
19:49 < Toonman> yeh figured , no worries
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19:52 < quanta67> Hi how can I go about getting FLAC support on my Ipod? I have just bough a pair of Etymotic ER-4P reference quality earphones http://reviews.cnet.com/Etymotic_ER_4P_MicroPro_earphones/4505-6468_7-30690254-2.html and I am keen to experience true lossless type sound quality on my Ipod.
19:52 < Snape> i know gtkpod
19:52 < Snape> and gnupod
19:52 < Snape> they are not so good
19:52 < Snape> plus they don't update frequently
19:53 < Snape> meaning you'll be stuck with old stuff
19:53 < Cippo> Snape, you know any other programs for nix*?
19:53 < Snape> not really
19:53 < Cippo> ok ;)
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19:55 < eightballx> hey peeps
19:55 < Snape> hey
19:56 < eightballx> if i follow instructions on the kernel building page, is it buulding out of CVS?
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19:59 < quanta67> Erm... FLAC anyone? (Man I hate IRC - it's the only chat program where no one ever really says anything).
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19:59 < mike89> anyone here install the linux for 4gen ipods?
19:59 < eightballx> yeh i can
19:59 < mike89> i got mine working
20:00 < dobey> quanta67: if the info isn't on the site, presumably you will have to port flac stuff i guess
20:00 < mike89> its just i cant get it to boot into the apple firmware
20:00 < mike89> becuase i made the linux the defualt boot
20:00 < eightballx> hold << when your iPod boots
20:01 < mike89> lemme try reall quick
20:01 < BleuLlama> don't just press it
20:01 < BleuLlama> HOLD it
20:01 < eightballx> oh yeh hold sorry
20:01 < mike89> right after apple logo pops up?
20:01 < eightballx> yeh
20:01 < BleuLlama> before if possible
20:01 < mike89> cuase it still went into linux
20:01 < eightballx> davidc are you there?
20:01 < BleuLlama> as soon as the reboot happens, change to press that button
20:01 < mike89> tryin it
20:02 < mike89> still did it
20:02 < mike89> are there any other key prssses?
20:02 < mike89> ive been lookin at the site for like 2 days now
20:02 < BleuLlama> you started holding when it rebooted, and held it down until you saw podzilla come up?
20:03 < mike89> right
20:03 < BleuLlama> rebuild your firmware with apple as default
20:03 < BleuLlama> and try that
20:03 < mike89> how can i rebuild the firmware
20:03 < BleuLlama> just re-do what you did, but make apple firmware the default instead of linux
20:04 < BleuLlama> you will need to often boot into apple firmware anyway to put it to sleep
20:04 < mike89> theres the prob, my comp wont recognize my ipod becuase its in linux
20:04 < BleuLlama> disk mode
20:04 < mike89> ok
20:05 < mike89> where is disk mode
20:05 < BleuLlama> look up button combinations on the wiki
20:05 < mike89> k thanks
20:06 < Z_Man> what does "error demuxing stream" mean when i try to playback on an AAC?
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20:09 < mike89> hey thanks bleullama
20:09 < mike89> jw what else does disk mode do?
20:10 < BleuLlama> it makes it so that you can get files onto and off of your ipod.
20:10 < BleuLlama> i thought that was pretty self-explanatory, myself.
20:10 < davidc__> probably something wrong with the mpeg container
20:10 * BleuLlama shrugs
20:10 < davidc__> aka, most likely its not a valid aac
20:10 < davidc__> make sure its not a renamed mp3 or something
20:11 < Z_Man> davidc__: it was playing fine one second ago
20:11 < Z_Man> now it's not playing
20:11 < davidc__> try rebooting the ipod
20:11 < davidc__> might be podzilla being weird
20:12 < davidc__> its still alpha
20:12 < davidc__> as we've said
20:12 < Z_Man> i did
20:12 < davidc__> huh
20:12 < Z_Man> ok
20:12 < davidc__> maybe it got corrupted or something
20:12 < Z_Man> i rebooted the ipod
20:12 < BleuLlama> don't try to listen to that song.
20:12 < BleuLlama> is it a large file or anything like that?
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20:12 < Z_Man> it works again
20:13 < Z_Man> but it wasnt working on any AAC song
20:13 < Z_Man> oh i think i know what you're talking about...
20:14 < Z_Man> maybe because it's a big file it's overloading the ipod in some way or another?
20:14 < eightballx> davidc i may ost the nightlys temporarily, can i please have a copy of the script you used?
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20:15 < Izz^> While the site is down..can someone please tell me the command I need to enter for make_fw to extract my current firmware off the iPod, please?
20:15 < davidc__> eightballx d'you have a linux box?
20:15 < davidc__> and it takes more than just the script
20:15 < eightballx> yes
20:15 < davidc__> you gotta set it all up
20:15 < BleuLlama> here's the script: ( cd ~/ipod ; cvs update ; make )
20:15 < davidc__> BleuLlama: hahaha.
20:15 < eightballx> hahaha
20:15 < davidc__> BleuLlama: it fetches every dependancy
20:15 < eightballx> yes, i am setting up a dedicated box on my 2mb line
20:16 < BleuLlama> i know. just being a wiseass
20:16 < davidc__> anyways, I put the nightlys back up right now
20:16 < eightballx> ok cool
20:16 < davidc__> I'll figure something out tonight
20:16 < BleuLlama> i was considering throwing nightly builds of mikmodizodpodzillastan on my machine
20:16 < eightballx> well shoot me an email and i can host temp
20:16 < davidc__> k
20:16 < BleuLlama> and, yeah... it's not as easy as i said. ;)
20:16 < davidc__> unfortunatly there aren't any nightlys for the last week
20:16 < davidc__> they all failed silently
20:16 < davidc__> but I can regenerate them
20:16 < BleuLlama> has much changed?
20:17 < davidc__> well, if need be, I can recreate them
20:17 < davidc__> I've got cvsroot tarballs for every night as well
20:17 < davidc__> the nightlys will probably go down again later tonight
20:17 < eightballx> arm.. can i please have a copy of the script as a basis on writing my own?
20:17 < davidc__> just to save my bandwidth
20:17 < davidc__> sure.. let me just let todays nightly finish building
20:17 < davidc__> and then you can...
20:18 < eightballx> ok thanks
20:18 < davidc__> you'll need a developer cvs acct though
20:18 < eightballx> i can acept dcc
20:18 < davidc__> otherwise it'll be out of date
20:18 < davidc__> I can't send dcc ;)
20:18 < davidc__> I'll put it online in a moment
20:19 < eightballx> ok thanks
20:19 < eightballx> why cant you send dcc?
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20:19 < eightballx> im behind a router and can
20:19 < davidc__> eightballx: firewalls here
20:19 < eightballx> oh
20:19 < davidc__> eightballx: I work at a firewall company. We're paranoid. We've got something like 8 layers.
20:19 < eightballx> ha
20:20 < davidc__> OTOH, the only way to break into our network is to come here and sit down at a console :P
20:20 < eightballx> hacking a firewall company, now that is something worth doing to make a point , not some pointless hacking on a site like ipodlinux.org!
20:20 < davidc__> anyways, the script takes about 5 mins to run
20:20 < davidc__> heh.. well, good luck
20:21 < davidc__> we put a 1 mil bounty to get thru our firewall
20:21 < Izz^> make_fw -o outfile -e img_no fw_file
20:21 < davidc__> it wasn't claimed.
20:21 < Izz^> -e: extract the image at img_no in boot table to outfile
20:21 < Izz^> fw_file is an original firmware image
20:21 < quanta67> I just caught that. No there is a part on the download section about FLAC that says if you want it ask on IRC.
20:21 < Izz^> What do I specify for img_no and fw_file, please?
20:22 < quanta67> I guess who ever deals with it isn't around.
20:22 < eightballx> if i run that script, will it build the nightlys for me?
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20:22 < davidc__> eightballx: welll, there's a lot of setup to do first
20:22 < davidc__> directory structures
20:22 < davidc__> grabbing and reworking the helix decoders
20:22 < davidc__> I used an ass backwords setup for that
20:22 < eightballx> reworking?
20:23 < davidc__> moving a bun ch of files around
20:23 < davidc__> and building them
20:23 < davidc__> those aren't updated on a regular basis
20:23 < eightballx> ok
20:23 < davidc__> anyways, from start to finish, it takes about 5 minutes
20:24 < eightballx> and to setup?
20:24 < davidc__> to make clean and build kernel, microwindows, libitunesdb, podzilla
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20:24 < davidc__> eightballx: no clue
20:24 < davidc__> eightballx: you'll ahve to reverse engineer what to do from the script
20:24 < davidc__> I don't really remember
20:24 < davidc__> I just hacked it together in an evening
20:24 < eightballx> ok cool, i may mod the script to make it simpler to generate (like straightening out the helix decoders)
20:25 < davidc__> fell free
20:25 < davidc__> *feel
20:25 < davidc__> IIRC, there was a reason I did it though...
20:25 < davidc__> theres also a lot of hardcoded paths
20:25 < davidc__> and sed stuff to munge the podzilla makefile to find the right paths
20:25 < eightballx> if i straighten it out, i will give it back to you
20:25 < davidc__> I think I"ll stick with what I have
20:25 < davidc__> it works and is reliable
20:25 < eightballx> ok
20:25 < davidc__> and takes no maintenance
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20:26 < davidc__> but feel free to send me a copy
20:26 < davidc__> I'd be interested to see the changes
20:26 < eightballx> <@davidc__> they all failed silently (reliable!)
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20:26 < davidc__> eightballx: haha... nah.. that was because I renamed the destination directory to deny people the builds
20:26 < davidc__> while I figured out how to keep the bandwidth down
20:27 < BleuLlama> hmm. maybe i'll set that up tonight. nightly mikmod builds
20:27 < davidc__> and it tried to copy to a non-existant directory
20:27 < davidc__> BleuLlama: isn't that in main CVS?
20:27 < davidc__> I can just add it into my nightly script
20:27 < BleuLlama> not the library stuff.
20:27 < Izz^> BleuLlama, I just booted iPL on my non-'photo' photo :)
20:27 < davidc__> ah, its a modded library?
20:27 < BleuLlama> i haven't gotten it stable enough yet to the point where i'm comfortable finishing the checkin
20:28 < eightballx> ha, you mean "ipod w/ color scrren"
20:28 < davidc__> is that in CVS somewhere?
20:28 < Izz^> Yes.
20:28 < BleuLlama> my interface in podzilla to it is very unstable
20:28 < Izz^> Wow, looks a lot nicer than the apple fw does on the colour screen
20:28 < BleuLlama> okay. i'll do that tonight
20:28 < BleuLlama> heh
20:28 < BleuLlama> rewrite mikmod/ipodmikmod.c
20:29 < Izz^> Damn! I wanted to try the videos but I don't have them.
20:29 < eightballx> davidc can i call you dc for short, i cant type for crap today
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20:29 < davidc__> eightballx: whatever.
20:29 < eightballx> got the script ready yet?
20:29 < aegray> lol
20:29 < mike89> Izz whered you get a color screen from another ipod photo?
20:30 < davidc__> eightballx: the build is still going
20:30 < eightballx> ok
20:30 < davidc__> I'm just waiting for the terminal to be free
20:30 < Izz^> No.. it's a new "iPod with color display".
20:30 < davidc__> usually it runs via cron job
20:30 < eightballx> ok cool
20:30 < mike89> oh
20:30 < davidc__> but I ran it right now to make todays
20:30 < davidc__> because I just fixed it now
20:30 < Izz^> It's just like a photo, but it's not a "photo".
20:30 < Izz^> Interesting: the clicker works now.
20:31 < mike89> lol but you can look at pics...
20:31 < Izz^> Didn't work on my 4G
20:33 < eightballx> aegray, did you get round to rewriting video support w/sound?
20:33 < aegray> no
20:34 < eightballx> ok, when do you think you may get round to it?
20:34 < aegray> don't ask
20:34 < aegray> i have other more important things
20:34 < eightballx> ok
20:34 < aegray> things i get paid for
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20:34 < davidc__> http://david.carne.ca/buildnightly.txt
20:35 < davidc__> enjoy its uglyness
20:35 < eightballx> sweet thanks
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20:36 < eightballx> shall i replace the dev cvs w/ the anonymous?
20:36 < BleuLlama> man... i love using this G4/OS X box as my personal server rather than the 7600/YDL box.
20:37 < courtc> unless you have dev access eightballx
20:37 < courtc> which you don't
20:37 < eightballx> heh
20:37 < eightballx> i would love dev access
20:37 < eightballx> but im not a dev
20:38 < davidc__> eightballx: anyways, I warn you that that build script is extremely crufty
20:39 < davidc__> and does not set _anything_ up beforehand
20:39 < davidc__> you'll need to infer the directory tree it uses
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20:40 < eightballx> i may use that as a base to write one for noobs that generates nightlys for them, and distribute it, y'know make a nightly generator, everything setup,
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20:40 < courtc> hmm
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20:40 < eightballx> hmmm, bleullama has a clone
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20:41 < davidc__> eightballx: good luck.
20:41 < Izz^> Can anyone point me to some videos compressed for iPL?
20:41 < eightballx> thanks dc , y'think ill need it?
20:41 < davidc__> eightballx: yes. The script is extremely crufty.
20:42 < eightballx> not as a base, for another script
20:42 < davidc__> eightballx: it was hacked together at 3am in the morning when I was half awake.
20:42 < davidc__> eightballx: I would just redesign it entirely :P
20:42 < eightballx> yeh, tommorow maybe ,
20:43 < eightballx> hmmm, you can compile batch scripts, is there any possible way to compile executable scripts into and app?
20:44 < courtc> whoa, what?
20:44 < eightballx> can i compile a text script of commands?
20:44 < aegray> bahaha
20:44 < mike89> i just restored my 4g mini and then put on linux, but when it boots to linux all the pixels are black except for a few and they move when i thumb the wheel
20:45 < mike89> but the pixels don't return to the starting position
20:45 < eightballx> cya
20:45 < mike89> anyone got a clue as to whats going on?
20:45 < Izz^> aegray, you must know?
20:46 < aegray> what?
20:46 < BleuLlama> he wants videos but hasn't bothered to check the wiki
20:46 < Izz^> Where I can grab videos for your iPL video player
20:46 < aegray> umm......the wiki
20:46 < Izz^> BleuLlama, screw you - the wiki is dead at the moment.
20:46 < Izz^> I know very well there were a bunch on there.
20:46 < aegray> woh
20:47 < Izz^> http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/first-looks-special-nyko-movie-player/ <-- this isn't what I was looking for, but it's interesting :)
20:47 < BleuLlama> the wiki works fine, buddy.
20:47 < BleuLlama> you just can't edit it right now
20:47 < Izz^> Okay, then I am sorry.
20:47 < Izz^> How to I view it?
20:48 < BleuLlama> i'd tell you to go to the website and click on 'wiki', but you don't even need to click anything.
20:48 < courtc> haha
20:49 < Izz^> I'm going to ipodlinux.org
20:49 < Izz^> Is that wrong?
20:49 < Izz^> And I'm seeing "A database error has occurred"
20:49 < Izz^> Maybe it was because I was logged in before it 'went bad'?
20:49 * Izz^ tries a different browser.
20:50 < BleuLlama> what does putting a "www." on the front of that do?
20:50 < BleuLlama> (http://ipodlinux.org works here...)
20:50 < Izz^> gives me the error.
20:51 < Izz^> Works fine in a different browser though. Must be a cookie issue.
20:51 < Izz^> Sorry for the outburst BleuLlama, but you did assume "hasn't bothered to check the wiki" O.o
20:52 < Izz^> "Error: 1146 Table 'ipod_wiki.user_rights' doesn't exist (localhost)"
20:52 < BleuLlama> i accept your apology
20:52 < Izz^> That would be the clue, I guess.
20:52 < BleuLlama> Video_Player
20:52 * courtc thinks the cookies should be assigned to .ipodlinux.org so it traverses between www. and no www. ... but we've gone over this a few times already
20:52 < Izz^> I've been checking the wiki every day for a week or so - LOL
20:52 < Izz^> It's appeared broken every time I tried.
20:54 < Izz^> Can't see any cookies that say "ipodlinux" in the website column.
20:54 < Izz^> Oh, there it is.
20:55 < BleuLlama> Video_Player
20:55 * Izz^ deletes them
20:55 < Izz^> Yay! Works in Safari again.
20:55 < Izz^> Twas cookies trying to log me in then.
20:58 < davidc__> oh eightballx - that script won't build libitunesdb properly
20:58 < davidc__> just fixed that problem now
20:59 < Izz^> Ooh it's a lot easier to select diskmode on the photo.. ..better diag menu. Actually uses the wheel to scroll.
21:01 < eightballx> same on mini2
21:02 < Izz^> Oh SWEET. The diving vid looks great in color.
21:02 < Izz^> Very promising.
21:02 < Izz^> Waaa - this is so much better than on my 4G :D
21:03 < davidc__> borrowing someones photo?
21:03 < Izz^> No I bought an "iPod with color display" :)
21:03 < davidc__> hmm
21:03 < BleuLlama> crack it open for us?
21:03 < BleuLlama> ;)
21:03 < davidc__> mind cracking it open and seeing if it uses a pp5020 or a pp5022?
21:03 < Izz^> I thought everyone already decidid it was a 20?
21:03 < BleuLlama> we're pretty sure
21:04 < Izz^> It that the only way to tell?
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21:04 < davidc__> ehm, we could read the chipid
21:04 < `rnx> hi guys
21:04 < BleuLlama> heh
21:04 < Izz^> Is there a way to tell in iPL?
21:05 < `rnx> I have a question. I've put some pictures on my ipod (quite small (100x100), greyscale) and i've tried every supported formats except for PNM and GIF, but they won't load.
21:05 < Izz^> Framerate on the 3D cube seems the same as the 4G, only it's more noticeable because the screen is sharper. Mind you, it might not be noticeably faster on the 5022 anyway?
21:06 < davidc__> jpeg doesn't work
21:06 < davidc__> ?
21:06 < `rnx> jpeg, xpm, & bmp
21:07 < BleuLlama> Izz: the lcd is a bottleneck on the ipod for video framerate, iirc
21:07 < `rnx> i just select the files and press the middle button, all it does is display the file name in a square which dissapears after 3-4 seconds.
21:07 < Izz^> Hrm.
21:08 < Izz^> But then hopefully that means there is cpu time left to play audio, one day?
21:08 < BleuLlama> drop on another cpu, or give aegray money, and there will be
21:08 < BleuLlama> s/, or/, and/g
21:08 < Izz^> So...even if the video were compressed, it wouldn't get smoother?
21:09 < BleuLlama> rougher. more cpu to decompress it
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21:09 < BleuLlama> unless it were a simple compression like RLE
21:09 < davidc__> eh, I can think of a few ways to speed up the lcd
21:09 < BleuLlama> the cpu cycles on it are really tight, for trying to fit in audio decoding
21:09 < Izz^> But is the video player maxing out the cpu at the moment?
21:09 < `rnx> anyone got any clue about my problem?
21:10 < aegray> yay! give me money!
21:10 < Izz^> Also: do you really want me to crack this open, or do you aready know for sure and/or you can tell without me cracking it open :)
21:11 < aegray> crack what open?
21:11 < courtc> crack a beer open? ok.
21:11 < Izz^> 0
21:11 < Izz^> My ipod.
21:11 < aegray> why?
21:11 < BleuLlama> hey, if you don't mind voiding your warranty, possibly damaging your ipod, and probably marring the plastic/metal of the ipod, go ahead
21:12 < davidc__> I'm wondering if they've moved up to the 5022
21:12 < davidc__> nah, its ok
21:12 < davidc__> don't crack it open
21:12 < davidc__> someone'll eventually write a program to check the chip ID
21:13 < BleuLlama> that should probably be displayed on the about screen...
21:14 * BleuLlama notes that it was davidc who used the phrase "someone'll eventually write"
21:14 < BleuLlama> which translates to "i volunteer to write"
21:14 < BleuLlama> ;)
21:16 < aegray> I heard it too
21:16 < aegray> !
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21:32 < eightballx> the ipod photo and ipod w/color screen use the same FW image and mini and mini2 use different ones so new ipods are 5020
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21:32 < eightballx> bye
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22:12 < daliscar> hello...i would need some help...
22:13 < Zyrill> don't we all?
22:13 < daliscar> ok hehe
22:13 < aegray> you would need some help? when? why?
22:13 < Zyrill> i'm writing exam tomorrow
22:13 < Zyrill> don't have any clue...
22:13 < Zyrill> anybody good at physical chemistry? :D
22:14 * Zyrill scarpers off to learn some more
22:14 < daliscar> hmm..anyone here who has time to help me...?
22:14 < aegray> just ask the question
22:14 < aegray> stop asking about asking about asking
22:14 < aegray> about asking
22:14 < aegray> about asking
22:15 < aegray> and so forth
22:15 < roowie> :)
22:15 < daliscar> ok..i installed Linux on my iPod with iPod-Linux Installer on my Mac
22:16 < daliscar> but when i restart it in the Linux mode that penguin comes up..but then a lot of text scrolls down and the iPod shuts down'
22:16 < daliscar> what can be wrong?
22:16 < aegray> it just shuts down?
22:16 < daliscar> yep
22:16 < aegray> or the screen goes off
22:16 < aegray> which is it
22:16 < aegray> thats kinda important
22:16 < aegray> what gen ipod
22:16 < daliscar> sorry im not very good at english...i dont get the differncve
22:17 < daliscar> 3rd generation
22:18 < Izz^> Interesting...
22:18 < Izz^> ..there is a mic test in the diagnostic mode.
22:18 < Izz^> I can record about 10 seconds.
22:20 < roowie> ah, what combination enters the diag. I have forgotten.
22:21 < Izz^> Rew and Action
22:21 < roowie> thanks
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23:21 < outkast> hi people
23:21 < outkast> i have some questions abouut linux
23:21 < outkast> is this the place to ask
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23:31 < Zyrill> is it my fault that whenever i try to playback mp3 on my ipod photo i get an "malloc failed"?
23:32 < Vanquisher> thats the way it is
23:33 < Vanquisher> not ur fault
23:33 < Zyrill> ok then... :) good to know i did everything correctly
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23:33 < Zyrill> at least aac works :)
23:33 < Vanquisher> Zyrill, mp3 doesnt work at all?
23:33 < Zyrill> nope
23:33 < Vanquisher> :\
23:33 < Vanquisher> does it play realtime
23:34 < Vanquisher> ?
23:34 < Vanquisher> mp3 works on my photo
23:34 < normalperson> Zyrill: the file is too big, mpd will fix that once coob/courtc are done with it
23:34 < Zyrill> as i said: as soon as i try to play back a file that is mp3 nothing happens besides a little window popping up and informing me that malloc failed
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23:34 < Zyrill> ah ok... i'll try a small one then :)
23:34 < Vanquisher> Zyrill, heh, file is too big like normalperson said
23:34 < normalperson> I personally use mpd on my ipod and can play any size (FLAC) file I want :)
23:34 < Zyrill> w00t
23:35 < Zyrill> works :D
23:35 < Vanquisher> Zyrill, what happens is, it trys to fill the buffer, and if its too big, then it wont play
23:35 < Vanquisher> Zyrill, ;)
23:35 < Capso> Normalperson: Hey.
23:35 < Vanquisher> runs out of space
23:35 < normalperson> hi Capso
23:35 < Vanquisher> mpd will solve all + add some new file formats
23:35 < Zyrill> well i know what malloc does
23:35 < Zyrill> i just dont want to hack around...
23:35 < Capso> Normalperson: I pretty much fsck'ed a bunch of things on my iPod trying to install IPv6 on it.
23:35 < Zyrill> :)
23:35 < Capso> Eesh.
23:36 < Zyrill> ok, im off to bed... exam tomorrow
23:36 < normalperson> Capso: :(
23:36 < Zyrill> night guys
23:36 < Daishi> why would your ipod need IPv6?
23:36 < Zyrill> why does an ipod need apache?
23:36 < Zyrill> kekeke
23:36 < Capso> For the fsck of it.
23:37 < Zyrill> it's geekish, that's why
23:38 < normalperson> <-- hasn't tried ipv6 anywhere, ever :(
23:40 < Capso> Fixed.
23:40 < Capso> Alright.
23:40 < Capso> Now, to try again.
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23:42 < Cascade> hi there - i want to update the kernel on my ipod - do i need to run the update or is it sufficient just to copy the kernel to some dir on the ipod
23:42 < Cascade> ?
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23:55 < Zyrill> Cascade: just read the wiki... it's all in there
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