--- Log opened Tue Jun 28 00:00:02 2005 00:00 < aegray> so theres your answer 00:00 < Bryan> i listened 00:00 < courtc> Asking for support on things Unsupported is hazardous to your health. 00:00 < Bryan> and i kno weverything up tell now 00:01 < Bryan> Not offically supported by linux 00:02 < Vanquisher> Bryan, invest in a spell checker 00:02 < Bryan> yeah 00:02 < Bryan> sorry 00:02 < Vanquisher> Bryan, actually...go back to school 00:02 < courtc> Not offically supported means not to expect any support. 00:02 < Vanquisher> like 2nd grade 00:02 < Bryan> yeah but there has been lots of cases if you read the fourms and it works for people 00:02 < courtc> read the topic: "We do NOT offer 4G support yet!" 00:03 < aegray> Bryan yeah but there has been lots of cases if you read the fourms and it works for people - keywords - "if you read the forums" 00:03 < aegray> those people figured it out on their own 00:03 < aegray> and didn't expect us to hold their hand and change their diper 00:03 < Bryan> your not for sure 00:03 < Bryan> but i did everything over 00:04 < aegray> i'm not for sure? 00:04 < Vanquisher> Bryan, please......this is not for you 00:04 < courtc> From what I've read you've distracted not just one dev, but 4. 00:04 < aegray> it might be for you - just not for you to ask questions about 00:04 < Vanquisher> courtc, and still couldnt get it 00:04 < Bryan> i just want to know boot freezing at tuxs is that the list thing that dev team has finished at with the 1g mini 00:05 < Bryan> i think i've read enoguh and its for me 00:05 < aegray> then figure it out 00:05 < courtc> Seriously read the topic. 00:05 < aegray> i just want to know boot freezing at tuxs is that the list thing that dev team has finished at with the 1g mini <-- what does this mean? 00:05 < gregday> stop complaining about it you ingrate. if you can't figure it out, you can't handle it. either live with what's been given you are make it better yourself. 00:06 < Bryan> wtf open ur fucken ears,..what has the dev team gotten up to with the 1g mini 00:06 < Vanquisher> thats not what u said before 00:06 < Vanquisher> ur grammer makes no sense 00:06 < courtc> The Fucking topic. "Please read http://www.ipodlinux.org/Project_Status before asking questions" 00:07 < aegray> haha vanquisher 00:07 < Vanquisher> :) 00:08 < Vanquisher> aegray, it even has grammer mistakes 00:08 < Vanquisher> ;) 00:08 < courtc> ummm... grammar* ;D 00:08 < macpod> Wait, why is this person still here? They don't listen, they can't type, and they have not read the website! I say they need some motivation. 00:09 < aegray> ./regulate 00:09 < aegray> as coob says 00:09 < aegray> haha 00:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 00:09 < gregday> Yes Yes Yes :) 00:09 < aegray> yay! 00:09 < Bryan> Wait, why is this person still here?..Cause i feel like it 00:10 < aegray> oh no 00:10 < aegray> maybe just +q 00:10 < aegray> or both 00:10 < Vanquisher> both 00:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+q Bryan!*@* ] by courtc 00:10 < aegray> haha 00:10 < gregday> you have unleashed the fucking fury 00:10 < aegray> its like god striking down from the sky 00:10 < Vanquisher> and god said, let there be peace and quiet 00:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by ChanServ 00:10 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:10 < courtc> pm me when you have something sensible to say/ask 00:10 < courtc> or not 00:11 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:11 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:11 < macpod> That's a good idea, put a muzzle on them. 00:11 -!- BryanM [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 < corpix> aegray: i guess you won your bet ;) 00:12 < Vanquisher> courtc, he will spam the fourms if he cant find thenm 00:12 < Vanquisher> them* 00:12 < aegray> no its been more than an hour 00:12 < corpix> oh 00:12 < aegray> we had time limits 00:12 < corpix> i see 00:12 * courtc sighs 00:12 < corpix> pretty persistent anyways 00:13 < gregday> it's pretty damn stupid to persisently piss off the people you're trying to get help from 00:14 < Vanquisher> yea 00:19 < macpod> Did anybody else know the iPod notes format allows you to tap into media such as files and music? http://developer.apple.com/hardware/ipod/ipodnotereader.pdf 00:21 -!- ames [~ames@10075.webjogger.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:22 < BryanM> 3 00:23 < Vanquisher> http://www.bash.org/?53939 00:23 < Vanquisher> ahahhahhaaha 00:23 < Vanquisher> anyway 00:24 < corpix> lol 00:33 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-141-192.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:34 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d22-ps5-mel.alphalink.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:36 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDED7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:38 < coob> macpod: that url's on flyspray 00:38 < coob> under the 'support apple notes reader' :) 00:38 < aegray> go to sleep! 00:39 < coob> haha 00:39 < coob> watching pirates of silicon valley 00:39 < Vanquisher> lol 00:39 < aegray> is that about the gay nightlife of southern california? 00:39 < Vanquisher> rofl 00:39 < coob> haha 00:39 < coob> nah it's apple the dual history of microsoft/apple 00:40 < aegray> ah 00:40 < coob> you're thinking of butt pirates of silicon valley :) 00:40 < aegray> good flic... 00:40 < aegray> ummm 00:40 < coob> hahaha 00:43 < macpod> I know, but figured I would post in case others were interested in the feature 00:44 < macpod> You know how hard it is to actually look for information yourself these days :P 00:48 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDF030.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:00 < taita_cakes> do i have to uninstall it to get the kernel to work? 01:00 < aegray> uninstall it* 01:00 < aegray> hmmm 01:01 < aegray> #ifndef it echo "what?" #endif 01:01 < taita_cakes> aegray: it sounds pretty stupid, install, uninstall, install again 01:01 < aegray> you don't really have to 01:01 < aegray> just back up the apple_sw and apple_os 01:01 < taita_cakes> i.e. http://www.ipodlinux.org/Updating_kernel 01:01 < aegray> because it overwrites those 01:01 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:01 < aegray> i know - i've done it a million times though 01:01 < taita_cakes> oh, okay 01:01 < taita_cakes> how do i backup/what are apple_sw and _os 01:02 < aegray> in the installer dir's, it makes apple_os.bin and or apple_sw.bin - just copy those somewhere else for later use 01:02 < aegray> if you want to restore it without the apple restore utility 01:02 < taita_cakes> nah i'll just use the apple updater 01:02 < taita_cakes> plus i lose backups all the time :P 01:03 -!- rootbeer [~rootbeer@69.214.25.174] has joined #iPodLinux 01:03 * aegray out 01:03 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:04 -!- rootbeer_ [~rootbeer@69.214.25.174] has joined #iPodLinux 01:05 < rootbeer_> help 01:05 < rootbeer_> Is there a help command here? 01:06 < rootbeer_> Is there anybode here? 01:06 -!- rootbeer_ [~rootbeer@69.214.25.174] has quit [Client Quit] 01:06 < Vanquisher> ummm... 01:08 < Capso> Any Devs here? 01:10 < taita_cakes> rootbeer_: i just installed it just then on my mini, so i'll try and help 01:12 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < Fenix-Dark> hi 01:13 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:13 < taita_cakes> howdy 01:16 -!- gregday [500@25511435.ecsis.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 01:20 -!- rootbeer [~rootbeer@69.214.25.174] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:22 < crashd> what's the hack to get the ipod into disk mode? 01:22 < taita_cakes> what version ipod are you using? 01:23 < crashd> it's just academic really, generally 01:23 < crashd> say ipod mini 01:23 < crashd> or 4g 01:23 < taita_cakes> well, you hold down select and play/pause 01:23 < taita_cakes> on reboot, not in podzilla 01:26 < BleuLlama> i am *NOT* from Nigeria 01:26 < BleuLlama> aegray. 01:26 < BleuLlama> I'm from Burundi. 01:26 < BleuLlama> geez 01:27 < crashd> im just trying to figure out how to get into diagnostics mode on my iriver is all 01:27 < crashd> hmm 01:27 < BleuLlama> try #iriver 01:27 < taita_cakes> lol okay 01:27 < BleuLlama> not an ipod channel 01:27 < taita_cakes> bitches with their irivers 01:27 < Capso> BleuLlama: Mind a PM? 01:27 < crashd> hehe 01:27 * taita_cakes is jealous -_- 01:27 < crashd> well i was just wondering 01:27 < BleuLlama> capso: why? 01:28 < BleuLlama> crash: google 01:28 < Capso> BleuLlama: Want to have someone look over my Patch. 01:28 < Fenix-Dark> hello 01:28 < Capso> BleuLlama: Preferrably a dev. 01:28 < BleuLlama> email it in 01:28 < BleuLlama> i'm in and out tonight 01:28 < Fenix-Dark> is the recording function on the G3 ipods good quality? 01:30 * BleuLlama hopes he gets the dock connectors soon... 01:30 * taita_cakes hopes mini recording is one day supported 01:34 < BleuLlama> i should order some MAX232 chips also 01:34 < BleuLlama> hmm 01:35 < BleuLlama> i need to look up to see what bitrates are supported for serial on the ipod 01:42 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 < BleuLlama> aegray, i don't live in Nigeria, you idiot 01:43 < aegray> oh really? 01:43 < aegray> i thought it was nigeria 01:43 < BleuLlama> i'm in Burundi 01:43 < aegray> ohh ok 01:43 < aegray> i'll keep it straight next time 01:43 < aegray> wheres coob from again? 01:43 < BleuLlama> right continent though. 01:44 < BleuLlama> i dunno 01:44 < macpod> bleu did you get some dock connectors? 01:44 < BleuLlama> i ordered 5 of them from the guy in the forums 01:44 < BleuLlama> gonna make breakout boxes with at least one of them 01:44 < macpod> I ordered 2, the came after like 2 months 01:44 < BleuLlama> ouch 01:45 < macpod> mail lost them good. 01:45 < BleuLlama> i want to have a 9 pin serial (with MAX232 interface chip) and line in/out 01:45 < BleuLlama> bummer 01:45 < BleuLlama> any idea if the serial port in the 4g can do 31250bps? 01:46 * BleuLlama invisions midi in/out/thru port also 01:47 < macpod> it ought to 01:48 < BleuLlama> many serial devices don't do that speed... pc serial ports generally don't 01:48 < BleuLlama> but amiga and atari ST ports (obviously) do 01:49 < macpod> Hmm, dunno then 01:49 < BleuLlama> haha: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/templarseries/maplin.html 01:50 < macpod> damn, how old is that 01:50 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 01:51 < macpod> That page looks like it was made when people thought the only people who would use the internet were scientists... 01:51 < BleuLlama> hehe 01:52 < BleuLlama> anyway, if the serial port supports it, it shouldn't be too difficult to make a simple sequencer, or to use the ipod to record midi streams, or play back .mid/.smf files out the midi port 01:52 < BleuLlama> just a thought 01:52 < Capso> Whom may I ask if a Patch was received? 01:53 < BleuLlama> just got it 01:53 < Capso> Okay. 01:53 < Capso> I believe it's commented okay. 01:54 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Client Quit] 01:55 < Capso> Oh shit. 01:55 < Capso> I left in three things that weren't supposed to be there. 01:55 < Capso> In pz.h 01:55 < Capso> Damn it. 01:56 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 01:56 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-141-192.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:58 -!- corpix_ [~corpix@p54BDED7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:00 < Capso> BleuLlama: Are you looking it over? 02:00 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 02:00 -!- Z_Man [~zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:06 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < Capso> /NAMES 02:06 < Capso> Goddamnit. 02:08 < joecool> oh ok then 02:08 < joecool> Users on #ipodlinux: joecool Vanquisher aegray Fenix-Dark taita_cakes BryanM _ipodstats birostick Izz^ courtc jedix zsr MikeRS macpod Hostile ipwnn00bs Wammy svens @Luke tittof Decipher eddan xaviercr Flik TheDingo CIA-5 Silyx haunted_i F-F_^hmf^ _Hetfield bonzi Synapse- javyx Capso normalperson sealion Big_Luk zer0python coob rage pacroon crashd usv nilss alexander petemc roowie joshk danalien BleuLl 02:08 < joecool> ama Appelmoes smo 02:09 < BleuLlama> um 02:09 < Hostile> yea? 02:09 < joecool> he said /NAMES Goddamnit 02:09 < joecool> so i figured thats what he wanted 02:10 < Capso> You failed to see the point where I may have just placed a whitespace char in front of it and upon redoing the Command would get it right. 02:11 < Capso> BleuLlama: Is it just one person who looks at the Patch or a series of people? 02:11 < Capso> (Or is this information much too sensitive to declare publicly?) 02:11 < aegray> Cpaso you dick - its podzilla not Podzilla 02:12 < Capso> Err... 02:12 < Capso> That's how it was. 02:12 * joecool slaps Capso 02:12 < aegray> its anyone who subscribes to the patch list 02:12 < aegray> no that was changed 02:12 < Capso> Does it matter? 02:12 < BleuLlama> yes 02:12 < aegray> yea - thats a big debat 02:12 < Capso> Fsck. 02:12 < aegray> e 02:12 < Capso> Erm... I don't think you'd want me to re-send it though, would you? 02:13 < aegray> not because of that 02:13 < aegray> nice names of variables 02:13 < BleuLlama> and incidently for the timerDelay_title() method, another way to do that would be to have an array of ints, and just index into it, rather than doing a 'switch'... just fyi. :) 02:14 < Capso> BleuLlama: Yea... I was talking to Aegray earlier about how I might do that in other ways. 02:14 < Capso> BleuLlama: Should I change that, then? 02:14 < BleuLlama> int delaytitle[] = { 15, 20, 25, 30, etc...} 02:14 < BleuLlama> or just return( (getsetting()*5) + 15 ); 02:15 < Capso> BleuLlama: Ooh... I like that last one. 02:15 < BleuLlama> just put a comment near it to de-obfuscate it... 02:15 < BleuLlama> two magic numbers... fun. ;) 02:16 < BleuLlama> bummer. magicnumbers.com is taken 02:22 < TheDingo> who mentioned me and why? 02:23 < jedix> seems gtkpod crashes if there are certain things in the id3 tag 02:26 < joecool> what version? 02:28 < jedix> .80-2 02:30 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d22-ps5-mel.alphalink.com.au] has quit ["christians, the americans of religion"] 02:30 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d22-ps5-mel.alphalink.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-2004.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 < jedix> is that old? 02:36 < jedix> apparently it is. 02:39 < joecool> i have 0.93.1 02:39 < joecool> just got it.. came out either today or yesterday 02:41 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < jedix> what distro do you use? 02:43 < Vanquisher> gentoo 02:46 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 02:46 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:46 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 02:46 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:58 < joecool> jedix: he answered for me too 02:59 < taita_cakes> bugger, ipoxlinux WAS workig on my mini, now it just goes to a blank screen 02:59 < jedix> that's unfortunate 02:59 < BleuLlama> you ran out of toner. go find a photocopy machine, crack open the toner cartridge, and pour it in the dock connector 03:01 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 < taita_cakes> lol, that makes PERFECT sense 03:02 < taita_cakes> ... or not 03:02 < taita_cakes> brb lunch 03:07 -!- IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@h97.124.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 -!- IRCMonkey [~chatzilla@h97.124.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:09 -!- burnhamd [~chatzilla@h97.124.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 < burnhamd> how far is the MPD podzilla client development 03:13 < aegray> its comin along 03:13 < aegray> theres a page on the wiki 03:13 < aegray> /MPD 03:14 < burnhamd> yea I read that 03:22 -!- burnhamd [~chatzilla@h97.124.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:31 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:32 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:34 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:55 -!- zsr- [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:00 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d22-ps5-mel.alphalink.com.au] has quit ["christians, the americans of religion"] 04:00 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 * BleuLlama going to play some PC games and go to sleep 04:02 < Vanquisher> bye 04:02 * aegray have fun 04:02 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, do you play ET? 04:03 < BleuLlama> on my Atari, sometimes, but i prefer Space Invaders 04:04 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, ha, i mean enemy territory 04:04 < Vanquisher> not the space alien 04:04 < BleuLlama> oh. no 04:05 < BleuLlama> mainly Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, City Of Heroes and Tron 04:05 < Vanquisher> rollercoaster tycoon is great 04:05 < Vanquisher> i like building them into a lake 04:05 < Vanquisher> dont finish it 04:05 < Vanquisher> and let the people go soaring into the lake 04:05 < Vanquisher> off the coaster 04:05 < Vanquisher> :] 04:05 < BleuLlama> hahaha 04:05 < Vanquisher> its funny as hell 04:06 < BleuLlama> i like to make really deep, huge crevaces, then have a rollercoaster start and end at ground level, with most of the rollercoaster beneath ground level. :D 04:06 < Vanquisher> :) 04:06 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, i usually launch them after a loop 04:06 < BleuLlama> hehe 04:06 < BleuLlama> anyway. i'm off to play 04:06 < BleuLlama> have fun 04:06 < Vanquisher> u 2 :) 04:06 < Vanquisher> dont kill to many people 04:07 -!- BryanM [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:07 < Vanquisher> he was still here 04:07 < aegray> fucker 04:07 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:08 < Vanquisher> crap 04:08 < Vanquisher> i hid one of my laptops 04:08 < Vanquisher> and now i cant find it 04:08 < Vanquisher> :( 04:09 * aegray nice work 04:12 -!- calmofthestorm7 [~calmofthe@bgp998103bgs.nanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 04:13 < Vanquisher> aegray, i know 04:13 < Vanquisher> im really good at hiding stuff 04:14 < Vanquisher> my mom still hasnt found the machete i bought awile back 04:14 < aegray> or the gay porn 04:14 < aegray> oooo 04:14 < aegray> ok i'm done 04:14 < Vanquisher> aegray, na 04:14 < Vanquisher> aegray, but that was a good one 04:14 < joecool> nah.. i seen his porn collection 04:14 < joecool> lol :P 04:14 < Vanquisher> lol 04:15 < Vanquisher> i think u even took some for urself 04:15 < joecool> nah man.. i just got the logins for alot of sites 04:15 < Vanquisher> true 04:15 < joecool> straight sites of course :) 04:15 < Vanquisher> joecool, u missed it today 04:15 < joecool> well.. some lesbian too 04:15 < aegray> hey whats that program that converts binary to hex 04:15 < Vanquisher> aegray, windows 04:15 < aegray> a util for some toolchains? 04:15 < aegray> blow me 04:15 < aegray> for real 04:15 < Vanquisher> no thanks 04:15 < aegray> what is it? 04:15 < aegray> like b2h or something 04:16 < Vanquisher> google 04:16 < calmofthestorm7> so, newbish question: in terms of ipodlinux compatibility, is there any difference between the 4 gig and the 6 gig mini? 04:16 < calmofthestorm7> (or 5 minutes with a Perl script) 04:16 < Vanquisher> yes 04:16 < aegray> yes - disk size 04:16 < Vanquisher> the 6gig is the 2g mini which currently doesnt work 04:16 < aegray> it works 04:16 < Vanquisher> not well 04:16 < joecool> just not all the wa y 04:16 < aegray> the 4g is a 2g mini also 04:16 < Vanquisher> no sound 04:17 < Vanquisher> aegray, no sound on the 2g mini 04:17 < calmofthestorm7> i know 04:17 < calmofthestorm7> I'm planning ahead:-) 04:17 < joecool> aegray should know rofl 04:17 < calmofthestorm7> so the only real difference is capacity? cool\ 04:17 < joecool> hmm.. i think these new contacts are finally adjusting 04:17 < joecool> about fucking time 04:17 < joecool> i was beginning to think the new line sucked 04:18 < joecool> walkin around like a fuckin blind man 04:18 < aegray> not quite 04:18 < aegray> it'll be there soon 04:18 < aegray> it squeaks 04:19 < calmofthestorm7> well my Mandrake didn't have sound for like 3m onths until I finally got it working; no sound is a fair price to pay for Linux on an iPod 04:19 < Vanquisher> mine plays videos 04:19 < aegray> mandrake sucks 04:19 < aegray> thats why i use it 04:19 < joecool> the difference is.. your iPod was made for sound 04:19 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:19 < calmofthestorm7> lol I know:-) 04:19 < joecool> you use it? 04:19 < joecool> rofl 04:19 < Vanquisher> hahahaha 04:19 < calmofthestorm7> mandrake seems to suck less than FC or Debian 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> and I'm too lazy to try any others at the moment 04:20 < joecool> woah 04:20 < Vanquisher> FC just sucks ass 04:20 < aegray> amen to that 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> yeah... 04:20 < Vanquisher> debian is > mandrake 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> no mp3 support... 04:20 < joecool> ok maybe it sucks more then FC, but NOT debian 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> debian just didn't work with my computer 04:20 < Vanquisher> then u cant say it sucks 04:20 < Vanquisher> lol 04:20 < joecool> i'm sure it did.. its just not a distro for a beginner 04:20 < Vanquisher> u never tried it 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> no hi speed USB support, the ATI drivers didn't work 04:20 < Vanquisher> ati drivers never work 04:20 < joecool> ATI drivers NEVER work 04:20 < Vanquisher> get used to it 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> they're working here. 04:20 < calmofthestorm7> not as well as in win 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> but the hardware accel does work 04:21 < joecool> ATI is a crap company who doesn't give a fuck about linux or making drivers for linux 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> and I'm not exactly a beginner;P 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> better than dell's "Linux is not supported" droning 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> they tried to tell me my power supply failure 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> was because I used LInux instead of WIndows XP Professional 04:21 < joecool> well.. i run Linux on a dell.. i just have to force a few things like ACPI 04:21 < calmofthestorm7> and thus fell outside of warantee 04:22 < calmofthestorm7> it took me a while to figure out, but i got everything working (including ACPI) 04:22 < aegray> i like out of box functionality 04:22 < aegray> i don't need to worry about maintaining features of my os 04:22 < aegray> i have better things to do 04:22 < aegray> lag... 04:22 < calmofthestorm7> well you figure it out once 04:22 < calmofthestorm7> and then you know how to do it forever;P 04:22 < Vanquisher> calmofthestorm7, sort of 04:22 < calmofthestorm7> like making a linux from scratch 04:22 < Vanquisher> calmofthestorm7, u may know how, but things break :) 04:23 < calmofthestorm7> well, yes 04:23 < calmofthestorm7> but overall, I much prefer Mandrake to windows or any other distro 04:23 < joecool> find a distro with a good package manager rofl 04:23 < aegray> i love urpmi 04:23 < aegray> so eat it 04:23 < calmofthestorm7> debian had a great package manager 04:23 < calmofthestorm7> although I gotta try Suse one of htese days 04:23 < joecool> SUSE is a great distro for out of the box usage 04:24 < joecool> i just don't like the way they personalize things.. like pico instead of nano 04:24 < aegray> hated it 04:24 < aegray> yea no shit 04:24 < joecool> just little annoyances all over 04:24 < aegray> i couldn't stand suse 04:24 < calmofthestorm7> hmmm 04:24 < aegray> especially since broken qt in 8.2 04:24 < aegray> god that made my life hell 04:24 < joecool> but its better then FC's breakage and Mandrake's windowsfied easyness 04:24 < calmofthestorm7> FC is just...no 04:24 < aegray> easyness is a bad thing? 04:24 < calmofthestorm7> 3 months of FC and I was almost ready to go back to XP 04:25 < calmofthestorm7> just as slow/buggy/crashy but with more compatability 04:25 < joecool> calmofthestorm7: oh, you came late 04:25 < joecool> you should have tried RH9 04:25 < calmofthestorm7> was it nice? 04:25 < joecool> that made me hate linux for 2 years 04:25 < calmofthestorm7> I'll take that for a no;P 04:25 < joecool> It was the most fucked up distro ever made 04:26 < joecool> consider FC1 a fixed version of RH9 04:26 < calmofthestorm7> haha 04:26 < Vanquisher> rofl 04:26 < calmofthestorm7> FC2 is a somewhat fixed version of FC3 04:26 < calmofthestorm7> sadly enough 04:26 < Vanquisher> dammit i have to fix all these mp3 tags 04:26 < Vanquisher> -___- 04:26 < joecool> RH9, the distro that ended a legacy with its shittyness 04:26 < joecool> rofl 04:26 < calmofthestorm7> I believe it 04:27 < calmofthestorm7> I don't see why redhat is so popular in the business world (for a linux distro) 04:27 < calmofthestorm7> probably because it's not free;P 04:27 < joecool> yes.. it morphed into the bastardized child of redhat called Fedora 04:28 < joecool> much like the whole Ubuntu craze nowadays.. spawned off of Debian 04:28 < joecool> but at least Debian is a respectable distro nowadays.. not many are 04:28 < joecool> Slack, Gentoo, Arch, are a few of the names that make the list 04:28 < calmofthestorm7> I couldnt' even get the kernel to recompile in Debian 04:28 < calmofthestorm7> quite annoying 04:28 < ipwnn00bs> .... 04:28 < joecool> well thats your fault then 04:28 < calmofthestorm7> I know, I know 04:28 < calmofthestorm7> I'm just stupid;P 04:28 < joecool> you can get the kernel seperate.. :P 04:28 < joecool> i ran 2.6 on FC1 04:29 < joecool> FC1, the FC kernel's needed to be recompiled twice or you got a million unknown symbols 04:29 < joecool> it was bad 04:29 < calmofthestorm7> heh 04:29 < calmofthestorm7> I may give debian another chance when I get around to it; right now I'm working through the bLFS book 04:29 < joecool> its probably still like that.. but they don't expect people to be smart enough to try to recompile one of their kernels to slim it down 04:30 < joecool> I'm a source junkie now.. Gentoo is my distro :P 04:30 < calmofthestorm7> well, given that my computer doesn't have a built in video camera or Bluetooth card 04:30 < calmofthestorm7> it makes total sense to compile those into the kernel 04:31 < joecool> I put bluetooth into the kernel.. i use it with my cell 04:31 < calmofthestorm7> well without the hardware... 04:31 < joecool> yeah, its pointless 04:31 < joecool> I carry everything in the kernel except for sound 04:31 < joecool> I like the initscripts to handle the sound driver 04:32 < calmofthestorm7> any reason why? 04:32 < joecool> just said why :) 04:32 < calmofthestorm7> uh huh 04:32 < calmofthestorm7> fair enough 04:33 < joecool> and of course the nvidia driver is a module.. i might add it to my patchset even though its a bit of blasphemy to add a binary driver into open-source code 04:33 < joecool> but.. its probably not legal to do either.. so I wont 04:34 < Vanquisher> errr 04:35 < joecool> hmm 04:35 < joecool> The latest -mm patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.12-mm2 04:35 < joecool> oh really.. 04:36 < joecool> well.. thats for wednesday 04:36 < joecool> i'm tired 04:36 < joecool> night all 04:37 < Vanquisher> night 04:37 < calmofthestorm7> g'ntie 04:37 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 04:37 -!- calmofthestorm7 [~calmofthe@bgp998103bgs.nanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 04:50 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has joined #ipodlinux 04:54 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 04:56 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:03 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has quit ["Apple users are like Marines; a small, elite group with the most sophisticated technology"] 05:09 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 -!- zsr- [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 05:12 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:16 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:20 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:21 -!- roowie_ [roowie@1-1-1-16a.kis.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 05:21 -!- roowie [roowie@1-1-1-16a.kis.sth.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:21 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:28 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:29 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:33 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 05:45 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 05:45 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-210-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:48 -!- Splice [bomb@nr4-216-196-153-11.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 < Splice> hi coob courtc nilss bluelLlama and every1 else i forgot. Great work! 05:56 < EvilDude> hey people as well :P 05:56 < EvilDude> what's going on today 06:23 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:38 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:38 < coob> i'm off to fail another math test, woo :D 06:40 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has quit [Client Quit] 06:41 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:51 -!- courtc_ [~courtc@adsl-158-32-253.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:52 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-217-4-111.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:56 -!- Splice [bomb@nr4-216-196-153-11.fuse.net] has quit [] 07:17 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:19 -!- joshk_ [joshk@adsl-68-126-186-193.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:19 -!- joshk [joshk@joshk.developer.debian] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:19 -!- joshk_ is now known as joshk 07:22 -!- courtc_ [~courtc@adsl-158-32-253.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:22 -!- courtc__ [~courtc@adsl-33-131-118.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:34 -!- p13 [~p13@d54C258F8.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 07:38 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Client Quit] 07:45 < EvilDude> hmm so that 07:45 < EvilDude> that's why apple has the contrast restore on long menu hold*** 07:55 -!- tlg [~tlg@96-238.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:56 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:04 -!- mgla [~mgla@p508C6DFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:07 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 08:13 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:21 -!- gfdsgfds [~gfdsgfds@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:21 -!- gfdsgfds [~gfdsgfds@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 08:31 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 08:34 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d329-ps0-mel.alphalink.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:34 < taita_cakes> anyone know some other proper ipod channels? 08:42 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:44 < taita_cakes> shit, how can i get into my mini's diagnostics mode when i cant press rewind + select because rewind takes me to podzilla 08:47 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 08:49 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:51 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 09:00 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:00 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 09:08 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:08 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 09:14 < EiGHTBALLx> hello 09:16 < EiGHTBALLx> i am trying to compile keyman, when i run arm-elf-gcc hello.c -o helloworld -elf2flt ,t gives me, pz.h and ipod.h are both missing! 09:16 < EiGHTBALLx> where can i get pz.h and ipod.h? 09:17 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:17 < EiGHTBALLx> oh, i found it they were in the podzilla dir 09:21 < EiGHTBALLx> what about nano-x.h 09:26 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 09:28 < EiGHTBALLx> anyone have the dopewars or vipodzilla src? 09:28 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 09:32 < EiGHTBALLx> anyone have the dopewars or vipodzilla src? 09:35 < smacmac> yes 09:35 < taita_cakes> http://infectous.plugin.com.br/reality/ 09:35 < taita_cakes> not related 09:35 < taita_cakes> but cool! 09:36 < smacmac> mail med at severinsen [at] gmail [dot] com for the source 09:41 < EiGHTBALLx> thank you so much! 09:41 < EiGHTBALLx> i cant cut and paste now :( 09:43 < EiGHTBALLx> ive sent it 09:44 < EiGHTBALLx> is your version recent? 09:55 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 10:00 -!- courtc__ is now known as courtc 10:08 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h232n2fls34o263.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:22 -!- lurkapup [~nowhere@60-234-142-156.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 10:36 -!- ipwnn00bs [Prot@ip24-251-2-189.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:37 -!- disident [~sylvain@LNeuilly-152-22-14-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 10:42 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:42 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:42 < EiGHTBALLx> anyone have the dopewars or vipodzilla src? 10:45 -!- ipwnn00bs [Prot@ip24-251-2-189.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:45 -!- ipwnn00bs [Prot@ip24-251-2-189.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:47 -!- ipwnn00bs [Prot@ip24-251-2-189.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:49 -!- taita_cakes [dsasd@d329-ps0-mel.alphalink.com.au] has quit ["christians, the americans of religion"] 10:53 -!- coob [pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 10:58 < EiGHTBALLx> anyone have the dopewars or vipodzilla src? 10:58 < crashd> pls dont spam :] 10:58 < crashd> use google 11:19 < EiGHTBALLx> im not spamming, i have tried google 11:19 < EiGHTBALLx> and i cant find the source 11:19 < crashd> dopewars.sourceforge.net 11:20 < EiGHTBALLx> i meant dopewars for iPL 11:20 < EiGHTBALLx> speccially compiled to run on an iPod 11:21 < crashd> did you check CVS? 11:21 < EiGHTBALLx> it comes with vIP so i need the vipodzilla source to get it, and compile it with microwindows CVS to run on mini2 11:21 < EiGHTBALLx> vipodzilla is not in cvs is it? 11:21 < crashd> vipodzilla iz podzilla built from cvs 11:21 < crashd> so im guessins so 11:22 < EiGHTBALLx> podzilla built from cvs with non cvs changes! 11:22 < crashd> viPodzilla is a Podzilla built from the CVS. It also includes features that are not found in the CVS. 11:23 < EiGHTBALLx> yes, its not in CVS 11:23 < crashd> i realise that 11:23 < EiGHTBALLx> and zsk is out of bandwith 11:24 < EiGHTBALLx> smacmac was supposed to send me it but never did 11:24 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:37 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:46 -!- maskd [maskd@dsl-203-33-162-18.NSW.netspace.net.au] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:48 -!- roowie_ is now known as roowie 11:48 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["Leaving this world"] 11:54 -!- valys [~nuititreb@82.76.57.68] has joined #ipodlinux 11:55 -!- valys [~nuititreb@82.76.57.68] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:57 -!- disident [~sylvain@LNeuilly-152-22-14-118.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["m'en vais bye"] 12:04 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDED7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:06 < corpix> hi 12:07 -!- BobVH [~BobVH@171-192.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:08 < EiGHTBALLx> hi 12:14 < EiGHTBALLx> when i get vipodzilla to work for 2g mini by compiling with latest microwindows(CVS) where can i post it, i can host it but uptime is not great 12:15 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:22 < BobVH> if you upload it as a photo, you can store it on the wiki... 12:23 < BobVH> if veteran is allright with that 12:23 < BobVH> but I think he is 12:37 -!- juanma [~juanma@213.0.106.125] has joined #ipodlinux 12:47 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 -!- svens [~svens@62.214.237.29] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:49 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:55 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:56 -!- juanma is now known as nefertum_pontuma 12:57 -!- nefertum_pontuma is now known as nefertum_ditumai 12:58 < EiGHTBALLx> how would i upload a binary as a photo? 12:58 < BobVH> just go to upload pictures 12:58 < BobVH> you canupload any file 12:59 < BobVH> just gzip it 12:59 < BobVH> if it's too big 12:59 < EiGHTBALLx> ok 12:59 -!- nefertum_ditumai is now known as nefertumditumail 12:59 -!- tx297 [h@ppp-69-148-69-187.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:59 -!- nefertumditumail [~juanma@213.0.106.125] has left #ipodlinux ["Abandonando"] 13:00 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-210-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:06 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:07 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 13:17 < corpix> i installed kernel + podzilla to my ipod mini , then i extracted ipod_fs_040403.tar.gz to the ipod's root fs ... looks pretty nice and works, but all i got is a command line 13:17 < corpix> what about some mp3 player ? 13:18 -!- Z_Man [~zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:23 < Z_Man> hmm. aparently the video support for podzilla doesnt work on a 2g mini 13:23 < Z_Man> lol., 13:24 < corpix> Z_Man: i just got ipod_fs_040403.tar.gz on my 2g mini, what other apps, such as mp3 player can you recommend? 13:24 < corpix> (and how do i install them) ? 13:25 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:25 < Z_Man> dont know 13:25 < corpix> hi aegray 13:25 < Z_Man> sorry 13:25 < aegray> hi 13:25 < Z_Man> aegray: aparently the video support for podzilla doesnt work on a 2g mini.... 13:25 < aegray> hmm 13:26 < Z_Man> it just gives me all this crap on the LCD 13:26 < aegray> was it one of the test videos? 13:26 < aegray> or one of your own encoded? 13:26 < Z_Man> no 13:26 < corpix> aegray: maybe you could help a bit, althought its unsupported ;) i got the useland tools on the root fs, where can i get a mp3player for my 2g mini and how do i install it, i just got a console now. 13:26 < Z_Man> it was someone else's encoded videos 13:26 < Z_Man> i will try one the testing ones 13:26 < aegray> use a mini test video 13:26 < aegray> otherwise it will just be garbage 13:27 < aegray> coprix what system are you on? 13:27 < corpix> linux 13:27 < corpix> gentoo 13:27 < Z_Man> aegray: thanks :D 13:27 < aegray> mount the linux partition on your ipod and copy a podzilla binary over there 13:27 < aegray> then make sure you chmod +x it 13:27 < corpix> i did 13:27 < aegray> and its not executing? 13:28 < corpix> i chmod a+wx podzilla 13:28 < corpix> and copied it to /bin 13:28 < aegray> what happens when you run linux 13:28 < aegray> on the ipod 13:28 < corpix> i get just a console 13:29 < corpix> some llrrrwwfffmm 13:29 < aegray> edit your ipods /etc/rc file and have the last line be /bin/podzilla 13:29 < corpix> oh 13:29 < corpix> these are my last lines 13:29 < corpix> mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda3 / 13:29 < corpix> ln -s /mnt/iPod_Control /iPod_Control 13:29 < corpix> hdparm -S 3 /dev/hda 13:29 < corpix> podzilla 13:29 < corpix> false 13:30 < corpix> so podzilla isnt in the $PATH 13:30 < corpix> k 13:30 < aegray> change it to /bin/podzilla 13:30 < aegray> although that should work 13:30 < aegray> are there any other messages on the screen when it goes to console? 13:30 < corpix> btw, what is `false` 13:30 < aegray> i dunno 13:31 < corpix> i'm just restoring a 4gig image, i'll try again when its finished 13:31 < corpix> oh, what if i have a completely empty partition table ? will it boot the apple os, or not ? is there a rom used ? 13:32 < aegray> no - you need an sda1 13:32 < corpix> ok, good to know ;) 13:32 -!- tlg [~tlg@96-238.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 13:35 -!- Decipher [~iamwherei@adsl-135-70.swiftdsl.com.au] has quit [] 13:37 -!- Bryan [~Treddygra@68.199.69.146] has joined #ipodlinux 13:41 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0009P12.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 13:47 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:54 < EiGHTBALLx> video support works on mini2 13:55 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:56 < EiGHTBALLx> mine does anyway, i just compiled from cvs 5 mins ago! 13:56 < EiGHTBALLx> i will send you the binary if you like 14:01 < BleuLlama> interesting 14:01 < EiGHTBALLx> what is? 14:01 < BleuLlama> apple just changed the ipod line 14:01 < EiGHTBALLx> what? 14:01 < aegray> how 14:02 < BleuLlama> 99/129 for shuffle 14:02 < BleuLlama> 199 for 4gb mini2, 249 for 6gb mini2 14:02 < BleuLlama> 299 for 20gb color ipod (note: not called "ipod photo" anymore) 14:02 < EiGHTBALLx> maybe there is already a g2 shuffle! 14:02 < BleuLlama> 399 for 60gb color ipod 14:02 < aegray> why the rename? 14:02 < BleuLlama> 329 for 20 gb color U2 ipod 14:03 < EiGHTBALLx> wait scrap that 14:03 < BleuLlama> there is no 4g anumore 14:03 < EiGHTBALLx> color u2? 14:03 < EiGHTBALLx> like a u2 photo? 14:03 < BleuLlama> color U2 14:03 < BleuLlama> yes. there is no monochrome fullsize ipod anymore 14:03 < BleuLlama> they're all "color" 14:03 < EiGHTBALLx> cool! (maybe these are 5gen) 14:03 < EiGHTBALLx> proccessors the same? 14:04 < BleuLlama> how should i know. i'm looking at their website 14:04 -!- aegray is now known as fdsfs 14:04 -!- fdsfs is now known as aegray 14:04 < EiGHTBALLx> ooh also itunes 4.9 has built-in podcasting! 14:04 < BleuLlama> "new 20gb ipod. 2 inch color LCD display. up to 15 hour battery life" 14:05 < aegray> wow - pp5022 14:05 < BleuLlama> yeah. that's old news though. they finally released it 14:05 < aegray> nice 14:05 < aegray> ill be getting one 14:05 < aegray> hehe 14:05 < EiGHTBALLx> cool u2 color! i want one 14:06 < EiGHTBALLx> itunes now has its own protocol aswell 14:06 < EiGHTBALLx> itmss 14:06 < EiGHTBALLx> click publish podcast 14:06 < originalthp> BleuLlama: nice idea the "contrast reset function" :) will save lots of problems with "black screens" i guess =) 14:06 -!- aegray is now known as fdafdsaf 14:06 -!- fdafdsaf is now known as aegray 14:06 < BleuLlama> thp: that's the hope. 14:06 < BleuLlama> :) 14:07 < BleuLlama> i figured that it was a common problem, so it was worth it to have an easy, yet not obtrusive solution 14:07 < BleuLlama> well, not really solution, but band-aid 14:07 -!- aegray is now known as fds 14:07 -!- fds is now known as aegray 14:07 < BleuLlama> it will force the contrast to a known working level, but it does not save it. 14:07 < originalthp> =) 14:07 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 14:07 < BleuLlama> it's good for forcing it to that level, then navigating to the settings menu to fix it. 14:08 < originalthp> yeah 14:08 < BleuLlama> kinda like safe-mode on windows. enough to fix whatever's wrong 14:08 < originalthp> safe-mode isn't enough to fix whatever's wrong.. but i know what you mean ;) 14:08 < BleuLlama> yeah. heh. 14:08 < BleuLlama> anyway. afk for a bit 14:09 < EiGHTBALLx> im just going to reboot into windows so i can install itunes 4.9 14:09 < EiGHTBALLx> what does afk stand for 14:09 < EiGHTBALLx> away from comp? 14:09 < BleuLlama> away from keyboard 14:09 < originalthp> astronomy for kids 14:09 < EiGHTBALLx> k 14:10 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:10 < originalthp> hehe.. he took that as a request 14:11 < BleuLlama> bryan: DO NOT PM ME 14:11 < BleuLlama> I WILL NOT ANSWER *YOUR* QUESTIONS. 14:11 < BleuLlama> that said. see ya. 14:11 * BleuLlama idles 14:12 < corpix> how to i mount the /dev/sda2 vfat partition, there's no fstab 14:12 < corpix> s/to/do 14:13 < corpix> -> podzilla works, but i can't play music 14:13 < originalthp> corpix:http://www.ipodlinux.org/Mounting_on_Linux 14:13 < originalthp> ah! you mean that 14:13 < originalthp> => /etc/rc 14:14 < originalthp> add this line: mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt 14:14 < corpix> yes 14:14 < corpix> thanks 14:15 < corpix> originalthp: i got these lines in my rc, is this enough to mount /dev/hda2 ? 14:15 < corpix> ln -s /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc /dev/hda 14:15 < corpix> ln -s /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 /dev/hda3 14:15 < corpix> or should i add hda2 there 14:15 < originalthp> these _plus_ hda2 14:15 < corpix> ln -s /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dev/hda2, right ? 14:15 < originalthp> you get the idea by looking at the line for hda3 14:15 < corpix> k 14:16 < corpix> thanks 14:16 < originalthp> What’s New in iPod Updater 2005-06-26 Integration with iTunes 4.9 for downloading and listening to podcasts 14:16 < originalthp> it is "safe" to download this? (speaking of iPL compatibility breakage) 14:17 < BleuLlama> dunno. no one has tried it yet, afaik 14:17 < BleuLlama> i'm going to try it once i get in to work. 14:18 < BleuLlama> (the 4g version anyway) 14:18 < BleuLlama> i think 3g has the same firmware, so there'd be nothing new there 14:18 < corpix> i did a apple update yesterday, dunno, didnt watched the version number, but if its for 2g mini, it works ... 14:18 < originalthp> the real thing i need is the apple_os.bin which i already backed up for the old version, i guess? 14:21 < BleuLlama> new has 3.2.6 for 3g... march's update had 3.2.5 14:21 < BleuLlama> i think that's for 3g 14:21 < corpix> originalthp: ok, /dev/hda2 is mounted to /mnt, it lists the songs in the >Music< menu, but if i click on a song it tells me "malloc failed" , any ideas ? 14:23 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:24 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:25 < originalthp> hmm 14:25 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:25 < originalthp> ln -s /mnt/iPod_Control /iPod_Control ?? 14:25 < originalthp> might just be in the wiki 14:25 < corpix> yes 14:27 < corpix> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-06-29 00:33 iPod_Control -> /mnt/iPod_Control 14:27 < originalthp> then wiki 14:28 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 < corpix> hmm 14:29 < EiGHTBALLx> what? 14:29 < corpix> _almost_ nothing just get a "malloc failed" when trying to play songs 14:32 < EiGHTBALLx> reboot, this is a known bug 14:32 < EiGHTBALLx> corpix, do you have vipodzilla src? 14:33 < corpix> no 14:33 < corpix> i got current nightly podzilla + kernel 14:33 < corpix> + sourceforge fs 14:33 < EiGHTBALLx> ok 14:33 < corpix> even if i reboot ... nothing 14:33 < EiGHTBALLx> if you have the source code i could really use it 14:34 < aegray> oh my god eightballx - stop 14:34 < aegray> zsk009 has it 14:34 < aegray> email him 14:34 < corpix> hmm, i'll try creating a new itunes db 14:35 < corpix> maybe it's just incompatible with the db gtkpod created 14:35 < EiGHTBALLx> i already have, he has no access to his files 14:37 < aegray> put up a forum post for this 14:38 < EiGHTBALLx> i think he will get service back in 2 days 14:38 < aegray> ah 14:38 < EiGHTBALLx> ill shut up now then 14:38 < BobVH> hehe 14:38 < BobVH> a mate of me just bought an ipod 14:38 < BobVH> a week ago 14:38 < BobVH> he'll be pissed off 14:39 < EiGHTBALLx> why? 14:39 < BobVH> (the color screen thing) 14:39 < EiGHTBALLx> oh 14:39 < EiGHTBALLx> are they the same prive? 14:39 < EiGHTBALLx> **price 14:39 < BobVH> hm 14:39 < BobVH> you're buying a photo 14:39 < BobVH> for the price of a 4g 14:39 < BobVH> so 14:39 < BobVH> you could look at that as a price drop 14:40 < EiGHTBALLx> i suppose 14:42 < corpix> EiGHTBALLx: hmm, could it be that the "malloc failed" error is just because i got only mixed live-sets (>50 minutes) on the ipod, and podzilla can't allocate memory for these large files ? 14:44 < aegray> yes thats why 14:44 < aegray> podzilla currently tries to allocate enough mem to hold the whole thing 14:45 < corpix> can't it play directly from the micro drive ? 14:47 < corpix> maybe some day one could add this function for the price of powermanagement 14:47 < aegray> no 14:47 < aegray> it has to be buffered and decoded 14:47 < aegray> mpd work is in progress 14:47 < corpix> k 14:47 < aegray> mpd solves this problem 14:48 < BobVH> and storing 1 minute into RAM and after 50 seconds load the next minute? 14:48 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 14:48 < aegray> its fixed in the new system 14:48 < aegray> so when that comes out, no more malloc erros 14:48 < aegray> rs* 14:48 < crashd> the good thing about music is that you can average a 'song' to be 4 minutes 14:48 < crashd> and if the file is more than xmb, you can use a different technique to load it 14:48 < corpix> yeah 14:49 -!- BobVH [~BobVH@171-192.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["Ik zen door"] 14:50 < EiGHTBALLx> when putting the sash binary in my ipod do i only need sh? 14:54 < originalthp> /etc/sash.conf also 14:54 < Z_Man> my 2g mini cant execute my ipod linux hangman game 14:54 < Z_Man> i compiled it using arm-elf-gcc 14:55 < Z_Man> but it doesnt work 14:55 < Z_Man> um. 14:55 < Z_Man> lemme get the error message 14:57 < corpix> is there something like a kernel-logger ? 14:58 < corpix> /var/log/ is empty 14:58 < aegray> dmesg? 14:58 < EiGHTBALLx> is there any way to make a shortcut to sh? 14:58 < aegray> on 14:58 < aegray> ln* 14:58 < EiGHTBALLx> i have a podzilla source that compiles and am willing to modify 14:59 < aegray> willing to modify what? 14:59 < EiGHTBALLx> podzilla to make a shortcut to sh, but i dont know how 14:59 < corpix> aegray: how can i add "sash" to the podzilla menu ? 14:59 < aegray> just run it through the file browser 15:00 < EiGHTBALLx> thats exactly what i mean! 15:00 < aegray> you can do that 15:00 < corpix> oh 15:00 < corpix> of course 15:00 < EiGHTBALLx> i know but it would be nice if there was a shortcut 15:00 < Z_Man> ok 15:00 < aegray> what kind of shortcut - a menu item or something in the filebrowser? 15:00 < EiGHTBALLx> either 15:00 < Z_Man> i got that error message! it's "Exec format error!" 15:01 < aegray> in the filebrowser, just make a script and put it on your ipod - in the script just have "ln /bin/sh /sash 15:01 < aegray> " 15:01 < aegray> that will make a link to sh in the root of the filebrowser 15:01 < Z_Man> aegray: it wont let me start podman on my 2g mini 15:01 < aegray> podman? 15:01 < EiGHTBALLx> ok 15:01 < aegray> whats podman? 15:01 < Z_Man> my ipod hangman game 15:01 < aegray> you just built it? 15:01 < Z_Man> yes 15:01 < Z_Man> with arm-elf-gcc 15:02 < Z_Man> and it says "Exec format error" 15:02 < aegray> does it say bflt bad magic? 15:02 < corpix> aegray: ok, sash is running, but i can't select chars 15:02 < aegray> ?? 15:02 < aegray> don't know 15:02 < Z_Man> lemme check 15:02 < EiGHTBALLx> use the wheel 15:02 < corpix> EiGHTBALLx: this gives me llllrrrr 15:02 < corpix> no more chars 15:02 < aegray> you need minix-sh 15:02 < corpix> oh 15:02 < aegray> if you want to enter stuff 15:02 < EiGHTBALLx> then your not in sash 15:03 < Z_Man> yes it says bad magic 15:03 < Z_Man> hmm 15:03 < aegray> that usually means it wasn't compiled for the arm 15:03 < aegray> with gcc 15:03 < aegray> or the file got corrupted 15:04 < Z_Man> hm. it doesnt do that when i execute the file directly 15:04 < Z_Man> i used an sh script 15:04 < Z_Man> to start it 15:04 < Z_Man> and then it doesnt work 15:04 < Z_Man> then it says bad magic 15:04 < aegray> oh - its thinking that the sh script should be an executable 15:04 < Z_Man> strange... 15:04 < aegray> so its looking for the executable header 15:04 < Z_Man> oh 15:04 < Z_Man> ok 15:04 < Z_Man> thanks 15:04 < aegray> make sure its not .sh 15:04 < aegray> and have the first line be 15:05 < aegray> #!/bin/sh 15:05 < EiGHTBALLx> is there any way to modify podzilla to include a sash option? 15:05 < Z_Man> ok 15:05 < aegray> as a main menu item or in extras? 15:05 < Z_Man> EiGHTBALLx: there's always a way to do almost anything 15:05 < Z_Man> that's possible to do 15:05 < Z_Man> i think 15:05 < EiGHTBALLx> either 15:06 < Z_Man> if i know what i'm talking about 15:06 < aegray> in the filebrowser - you can do it like i said 15:06 < aegray> other than that, modify menu.c 15:06 < EiGHTBALLx> to include? 15:06 < EiGHTBALLx> i want to modify menu.c 15:06 < aegray> look at menu.c - its pretty easy to figure out 15:06 * BleuLlama updates his 4g and sees if it breaks the boot loader. 15:07 < corpix> just to make that clear, http://www.ipodlinux.org/images/5/5e/Sash.tgz is _not_ in the root-fs provided by sourceforge, is it ? 15:07 < aegray> ?? dunno 15:07 < EiGHTBALLx> ok 15:07 -!- disident [~sylvain@lec67-4-82-235-56-34.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:08 * BleuLlama 's ipod spins up firmware 3.1 15:10 -!- coob [pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:11 < BleuLlama> it adds "podcasts" to the "music" menu. that's about all that looks different 15:11 < BleuLlama> hmm 15:11 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:12 < originalthp> nice one 15:12 < originalthp> i read it supports bookmarking 15:12 < originalthp> (for podcasts) 15:12 < originalthp> hope gtkpod supports this "feature" in itunesdb sooner or later 15:12 < disident> my "old" ipod 60photo can support podcast with an upgrade? 15:13 < coob> yes. 15:13 < BleuLlama> that's what software update is for 15:13 < coob> BleuLlama: no update for the old gens i take it? 15:13 < Z_Man> BleuLlama: i think it would be cool if you added the alarm to podzilla and make it so it can play a recording from the ipod 15:14 < BleuLlama> that's the goal for "alarms" 15:14 < BleuLlama> coob: 1g/2g is still at 1.5 15:14 < coob> k 15:14 < Z_Man> BleuLlama: that's cool 15:14 < BleuLlama> 3g bumped from 2.5 to 2.6 15:14 < coob> so alarms eh 15:14 < coob> cron port? 15:14 < BleuLlama> 4g bumped from 3.0.2 to 3.1 15:14 < coob> atd port? :) 15:14 < coob> yeah noticed 15:14 < Z_Man> oh, a cron port for the ipod would be sweeeet! 15:14 < BleuLlama> no, just gonna hook in to the nanox timers 15:15 < BleuLlama> i can't test 3g to see if it breaks ipl installers 15:15 < BleuLlama> but i'm trying 4g right now 15:15 < coob> im wondering if tetris is in 1.2 15:15 < coob> for the photo 15:15 < BleuLlama> if you'd all stop pestering me 15:15 < Z_Man> i'm getting a broken 2g from ebay 15:15 < disident> where can i download a apple_os.bin with podcast support? 15:15 < Z_Man> it has a broken LCD i believe.. anywhere i could get one cheep? 15:15 < originalthp> update your ipod and "rip" the apple os off it 15:16 < coob> disident, you can't. you install it to the ipod with the apple updater, then extract it. 15:16 < coob> Z_Man: no. 15:16 < coob> unless you find a 2g ipod with a broken hd 15:16 < Z_Man> darn 15:16 < coob> they go cheap 15:16 < Z_Man> yeah 15:18 < disident> coob, it's long ;) 15:19 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:19 < originalthp> what's long? 15:20 -!- alias00 [Alias@host81-139-55-108.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 < disident> originalthp, use the ipod updater then extract and patch it 15:21 < disident> originalthp, fr the podcast support 15:22 < originalthp> disident: podcasts are supported with old firmware too (as sounds).. you have to use ipod updater.. nobody can legally send you the apple 15:22 < originalthp> os 15:22 < disident> originalthp ok i see no problems i will make it 15:22 < disident> myself 15:23 < EiGHTBALLx> how can i modify menu c to run a script/command? 15:23 < aegray> did i not say this 15:23 < aegray> add a menu item that calls a function 15:23 < aegray> have the function run a command 15:23 < BleuLlama> display is fucked on 4g running ipodlinux now 15:23 < aegray> just like ipod_reboot does 15:23 < aegray> how so bleullama? 15:24 < BleuLlama> the text scrolls as it boots, but once podzilla starts, it draws some garbage to the top quarter of the screen, and that's it 15:24 < aegray> yuck 15:24 < EiGHTBALLx> oooh software 1.4! 15:24 < corpix> does someone have a copy of "iPod font set" , the server is down 15:24 < corpix> ? 15:24 < EiGHTBALLx> how can i modify menu c to run a script/command? 15:24 < aegray> omfg 15:24 < aegray> i just said it above 15:24 < aegray> look how ipod_reboot works 15:25 < EiGHTBALLx> sorry i didnt see i thought my clients wasnt connected 15:25 < disident> hi aegray :) 15:25 < aegray> hi 15:25 < BleuLlama> i know that podzilla is running, since holding 'menu' turns on and off the backlight. heh 15:27 < corpix> BleuLlama: i got that using this podzilla: http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-ogg, i replaced it with nightly 15:27 < corpix> on a 2g mini 15:27 < EiGHTBALLx> i dont understand how rebbot ipod calls a command 15:28 < aegray> look in menu.c and ipod.c 15:28 < EiGHTBALLx> is reeboot_ipod a command? 15:28 < aegray> would you look in ipod.c please? 15:28 -!- petykoo [~peepy@173.174-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #iPodLinux 15:28 < petykoo> hi 15:28 < aegray> hi 15:29 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-178-194.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:29 < originalthp> hey 15:29 < petykoo> hi 15:29 < Daishi> hai 15:29 < disident> hi 15:29 -!- _KDE [~chatzilla@ppp-82-135-72-88.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 15:30 < petykoo> what does piezo mean ? 15:30 < alias00> it's the speaker 15:30 < aegray> the "clicker" 15:30 < alias00> the clicker 15:30 < alias00> it's just the type of speaker it is 15:31 < alias00> and i'm going to sound a complete idiot here, but where can I get the source code? 15:31 < aegray> for what? 15:31 < aegray> podzilla? 15:31 < aegray> kernel? 15:31 < petykoo> is there any audio playback for 2g mini 15:31 < aegray> no 15:31 < aegray> not yet 15:32 < petykoo> i mean "not in CVS" 15:32 < alias00> kernel 15:32 < alias00> and podzilla 15:32 < aegray> look on the wiki 15:32 < aegray> you can get it from cvs 15:32 < alias00> i ahven't got a client 15:32 < aegray> download one 15:32 < aegray> wincvs, cygwin 15:33 -!- jmsbwtr [~chatzilla@ACD47F9E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:33 < petykoo> the other i would be interested in the recording,,, 15:34 < aegray> what do you mean not in cvs? 15:34 < petykoo> this: 15:34 < petykoo> Recording on these models has had initial testing, but there is no code in CVS yet. 15:34 < petykoo> but i mean it for audio playback 15:34 < _KDE> will recording ever be supported on 4g at least theoretically 15:35 < aegray> it squeaks but doesn't play music yet 15:35 < aegray> possibly _KDE 15:35 < jmsbwtr> aegray: wot does video look like on a mini, i cant try it cuzi have a 2nd gen 1 15:35 < _KDE> what does possibly mean more likely or not? 15:35 < aegray> likely 15:36 < _KDE> k 15:36 < Daishi> jmsbwtr: video on the ipod looks pretty 15:36 < aegray> haha 15:36 < aegray> it looks like video in black and white 15:36 < aegray> you can try on 2g i think 15:36 < originalthp> jmsbwtr: ipl works on 2g mini ;) 15:36 < originalthp> + video too 15:36 < jmsbwtr> i didnt think 2g minis worked with ipl yet 15:36 < petykoo> ohh, i can't wait:) 15:37 < Daishi> not very useable (ie. the battery will give out just as sir arthur its fighting the black night in monty python and the holy grail) 15:37 < jmsbwtr> i thought it was still vry unstable 15:37 < petykoo> jmsbwtr, i have one, and it works 15:37 < EiGHTBALLx> it works like any other 4g but no sound! 15:37 < petykoo> unfortunately 15:37 < Daishi> theres sound in video now? 15:37 < aegray> no 15:37 < Daishi> oo 15:37 < jmsbwtr> thts awesome, is there a page u culd direct me to, to install it from windows because presuambly i will need to install it from CVS# 15:38 < Daishi> ipodlinux.org! 15:38 < aegray> yes 15:38 < jmsbwtr> gr8! :s a more specific page mayb? or i tht askin 2 much :p 15:38 < Daishi> wtf 15:38 < Daishi> why are you porting ipl to the shuffle? 15:39 < jmsbwtr> huh? 15:39 < petykoo> lol 15:39 < aegray> who is? 15:39 < jmsbwtr> shufle aint even got a lcd 15:39 < Daishi> i dunno but its on the project_status page 15:40 < petykoo> :) 15:40 < Daishi> though nothing works yet 15:40 < jmsbwtr> i doubt anyone will bother 15:41 < aegray> yea its not being tried 15:41 < corpix> hmm, no sed on this busybox ;( 15:41 < petykoo> sash is unusable for me 15:42 < petykoo> like it weren't reading the config 15:43 < BleuLlama> a shell running on the ipod itself isn't really supposed to be 'usable' 15:43 < BleuLlama> it's more 'novelty' 15:43 < BleuLlama> imo 15:43 < petykoo> :) 15:44 < petykoo> but the calc is cool 15:44 < petykoo> what does dialer do ? 15:44 < BleuLlama> perhaps if someone gets a USB Host stack running on it, and we have a keyboard or chording keyboard input, then perhaps it might be more useful.... but until then... 15:45 < petykoo> coz it crashed my mini 15:46 < aegray> usb host stack....hmmm...maybe... 15:46 < BleuLlama> it should just generate DTMF tones 15:46 < aegray> haha 15:47 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:47 < corpix> erm, who had this idea ? 15:47 < corpix> heh 15:48 < BleuLlama> what idea? 15:49 < corpix> dialer 15:49 < aegray> bleullama 15:49 < BleuLlama> AT+T originally, i believe... perhaps Alexander Graham Bell... 15:49 < corpix> i mean, wouldnt it be faster to just use the keys on a phone ? 15:49 < aegray> heres an idea 15:49 < aegray> don't use it 15:50 < aegray> how novel 15:50 < corpix> yeah, nevermind guys 15:50 < BleuLlama> corpix: wouldn't it be a lot easier to just convert all of your music to mp3 and carry a gameboy than to use IpodLinux? 15:50 < aegray> haha 15:50 < petykoo> :) 15:50 < petykoo> u don't have ur musik in mp3 ?:) 15:51 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:51 < BleuLlama> you* your* 15:51 < BleuLlama> music* 15:51 < BleuLlama> spell. checker. 15:51 < petykoo> yep 15:51 < BleuLlama> get one 15:51 < corpix> BleuLlama: there is a project on it, gameboy dev kit on ebay also 15:51 < petykoo> :) 15:51 < BleuLlama> why do i care? 15:52 < aegray> lol 15:52 < petykoo> but that usb host keyboard is a great idea... 15:52 < aegray> yes 15:53 < petykoo> we do need only usb support in kernel, that's all i think... 15:53 < BleuLlama> once a usb host stack is implemented (which is a very non-trival task) I'll probably write a nostromo driver for it... 15:53 < BleuLlama> yeah. 'that's all'. 15:53 < aegray> whats nostromo again? 15:53 < BleuLlama> all you need is everything 15:53 < petykoo> ???? 15:53 < BleuLlama> nostromo is the gaming controller that belkin makes 15:54 < petykoo> set the dock connector to usb port 15:54 < aegray> i thought there was kernel support in linux for usb?? 15:54 < aegray> so why doesn't it work?? 15:54 < BleuLlama> there's no driver for the usb chip. 15:54 < petykoo> aegray, i mean only to compile it 15:55 < petykoo> BleuLlama, but the dock is working 15:55 < aegray> i was being facetious 15:55 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:55 < petykoo> wiohh 15:55 < petykoo> :) 15:56 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-178-194.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 15:57 < petykoo> and can't convert the usb somehow to ethernet? terminal ?:)) 15:57 < corpix> hmm, no "|" support in sash ? 15:58 < petykoo> :)) 15:58 < BleuLlama> petty: if you write all of the drivers and os support and networking support, yes. 15:58 < petykoo> ?? 15:58 < petykoo> for ipl ? 15:58 < petykoo> or what? 15:59 < BleuLlama> corpix: no. it doesn't do pipes 15:59 < BleuLlama> afiak 15:59 < BleuLlama> check the forums. there is discussion about shells occasionally 15:59 < petykoo> there is networking support in the ipl kernel 15:59 < BleuLlama> yes corpix. they all ahve the same connectors, so you can just plug it all in and it will magically *just*work*. 16:00 < aegray> really? wow 16:00 < aegray> i'm gonna go try 16:00 < aegray> i can't believe i'm gonna be the one who figures this out 16:01 < BleuLlama> i plugged a firewire dock cable into my 4g, and plugged the other end into my 1g, and it magically understood that there was a network there, and i played two-player DOOM on it! 16:01 < aegray> I should try thta 16:01 < aegray> that* 16:01 < petykoo> BleuLlama, wtf r u talkin about ??? 16:01 < disident> lol 16:01 < disident> petykoo, 16:01 < petykoo> there's networking between computer and an ipod 16:02 < aegray> i ripped the bios chip out of my xbox and fed it to the ipod through the firewire port - now it plays xbox! 16:02 < petykoo> :)) 16:02 < corpix> so did i 16:03 < BleuLlama> i plugged in an external firewire CD burner, and now i can rip and burn cds to my ipod directly! 16:03 < aegray> thats incredible! 16:03 < petykoo> :) 16:03 < corpix> btw, why does usb-storage module not work on current kernel ? 16:04 < aegray> because no one has tried it 16:04 < aegray> go try it 16:04 < petykoo> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Ethernet 16:04 < corpix> or is something different planned to connect to a box 16:05 < BleuLlama> what part of "usb host stack not implemented" do you not understand? 16:05 < aegray> usb host stack not implemented 16:05 < aegray> i kinda got "" 16:05 < aegray> almost 16:06 < _KDE> aegray - how old are you? ^^ 16:06 < aegray> 12 16:06 * BleuLlama is in full-on asshole mode today 16:06 < aegray> haha 16:06 < BleuLlama> yeah. he's 12 16:06 < _KDE> no aegray reaally. how old r u? 16:06 < BleuLlama> i know his dad. we went to college together. 16:06 < aegray> 12 16:06 < _KDE> and you go to work? 16:07 < _KDE> ^^ 16:07 < aegray> my dads work gave me a job 16:07 < BleuLlama> buncha years back... we had a few classes together. 16:07 < _KDE> rofl 16:07 < BleuLlama> odd that i'm not more friendly with his son than with him. heh 16:07 < aegray> haha 16:08 < petykoo> lol 16:08 < _KDE> ... 16:08 < BleuLlama> of course, aegray was in diapers when i met him... so not much has changed 16:09 < _KDE> lol 16:09 < BleuLlama> we called him 'georgey'. he hated it. 16:09 < BleuLlama> think he still does 16:09 < BleuLlama> heh 16:09 < BleuLlama> (his middle name, iirc) 16:09 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 16:09 < BleuLlama> anyhoo. work calls. back in a few 16:09 < aegray> shutup 16:10 < BleuLlama> heh 16:10 -!- joecool|sleep is now known as joecool|away 16:10 < _KDE> aegray - what's your real name? ;) 16:10 < joshk> /whois 16:10 < aegray> /whois 16:10 < _KDE> k 16:10 < aegray> /whois 16:10 < aegray> ah there we go 16:10 < disident> _KDE, check the cvs code of the video ;) 16:10 < originalthp> /whois 16:11 -!- svens [~svens@i3ED6E3C1.versanet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:11 < _KDE> why do you all tell me /whois? I already know he's called adam johnston.... 16:11 < crashd> _KDE> aegray - what's your real name? ;) 16:11 < crashd> at a guess, mate 16:11 < originalthp> nooooooooo! don't tell everybody 16:12 < joshk> _KDE: so what was the question? 16:12 < _KDE> ??? 16:12 < _KDE> what q? 16:14 < _KDE> hey origianlthp, why not join #ipodlinux.de ;) 16:15 < alias00> is there a podzilla build for 1g minis that plays audio? 16:15 < originalthp> nah 16:15 < originalthp> have to do other stuff today ;) 16:15 < aegray> yes 16:15 < _KDE> origianlthp: you already know sauerkrautzilla? 16:15 < originalthp> not personally, no 16:15 < _KDE> sereroku has developed this crap 16:16 < originalthp> crap? 16:16 < originalthp> don't want to know crap. leave it where it is. 16:16 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-83-249-252.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:16 < _KDE> german translation of podzilla 16:16 < originalthp> have done it myself.. nothing new 16:16 < _KDE> but it's a very crappy translation i dont use it 16:16 < originalthp> never heard of translating an app and giving it a completely new name... 16:17 < aegray> seriously 16:17 < aegray> rip off! 16:18 < originalthp> "i've found a bug in sauerkrautzilla.." - "well.. that's strange.. i experienced the same bug in podzilla.. must be a coincidence..." 16:18 < aegray> haha 16:18 < _KDE> lol 16:18 < originalthp> makes bug tracking a lot more phun! 16:19 < _KDE> <><><><><><><><><><> 16:20 < _KDE> when I'm sitting in fromt of tv and need something i casn laugh i usualyy wath ORF 16:21 < _KDE> originalthp: you too? ;) 16:21 < originalthp> what's "casn"? 16:21 < _KDE> *when I'm sitting in front of tv and need something i can laugh off i ussualy watch ORF 16:21 < originalthp> what's "ussualy"? 16:21 < _KDE> usually 16:22 < _KDE> but it's funny to watch all the silly people on ORF ;) 16:23 < originalthp> when i want to experience something funny (or rather sad, but laughable), i join #ipl 16:23 < _KDE> interview -someone committed a crime - the person missing something says : "Hoffentlich macht der niix beses 16:23 -!- petykoo [~peepy@173.174-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has quit ["Linux is like crack: if you try it you can't give it up."] 16:23 < _KDE> or millionenshow 16:23 < _KDE> is funny too 16:24 < _KDE> it's sad how silly people can be... 16:24 < originalthp> nice one 16:24 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:24 -!- alias00 [Alias@host81-139-55-108.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 16:25 < _KDE> originalthp: join #ipl.de 16:25 < EiGHTBALLx> what is in ipl.de? 16:25 < EiGHTBALLx> is it dutch? 16:26 < _KDE> #ipodlinux.de - german ipl channel 16:26 < originalthp> my shareware client only supports 1 channel per connection 16:26 < originalthp> and only 1 connection per session 16:26 < _KDE> lol 16:26 < EiGHTBALLx> fair enough, there sould be an ipl.fr 16:26 < EiGHTBALLx> for french 16:26 < _KDE> open it 16:26 < _KDE> #ipodlinux.fr 16:26 < EiGHTBALLx> oh i opened ipl.fr 16:26 < disident> hehe 16:26 < EiGHTBALLx> heh 16:27 < jmsbwtr> woo! i wuld just like to say that i now have ipl on my second gen mini! :d im one happy bunny 16:27 < disident> .fr rocks ;) we are two 16:27 < EiGHTBALLx> i do too! 16:28 < EiGHTBALLx> ha i made #ipodlinux.uk 16:28 < jmsbwtr> one question though, hot is different about music on 2nd gen mini to 4g ipod?? 16:29 < jmsbwtr> *how 16:29 < jmsbwtr> *whot 16:29 < EiGHTBALLx> the proccessor 16:29 < aegray> we don't know yet 16:29 < jmsbwtr> get their eventually ;)_ 16:29 < EiGHTBALLx> oh wait 16:29 < jmsbwtr> o, sorry 16:29 < EiGHTBALLx> soryy, i was wrong 16:30 < _KDE> anyone spanish here? #ipodlinux.es 16:30 < originalthp> aegray: any news about the 2g mini audio support from leachbj or so? 16:30 < aegray> it squeaks 16:30 < aegray> but not music 16:30 < jmsbwtr> and one last question, is anyone working on power management? what is bj working on? 16:31 < originalthp> aegray: neat.. ;) 16:31 < aegray> i've been looking at power management 16:31 < aegray> i'm pretty sure leachbj knows some about it 16:31 < aegray> so we'll see 16:31 < coob> we'll beat it out of him. 16:31 < jmsbwtr> cool, what things are planned for power management? 16:31 < EiGHTBALLx> what gen ipod does everyone have? 16:31 < coob> whatever we figure out how to do. 16:32 < jmsbwtr> 2nd gen mini with ipl installed 2 mins ago successfully :) 16:32 < EiGHTBALLx> 2g mini 16:32 < EiGHTBALLx> i installed mine 2 days ago 16:32 < originalthp> 2g mini with ipl-pro and apple os 16:33 < EiGHTBALLx> SMACMAC IS GOD, he gave me vipodizlla srcQ! 16:33 < jmsbwtr> i have one featuer request for power management, wen u put ure ipod on hold, u usually then put it in ure pocket so i wuld like an option that wen on hold the lcd turns off cuz there is no need for it in ure pocket 16:33 < EiGHTBALLx> get ready for a mini2 compatible vip 16:33 < EiGHTBALLx> brb, booting into linux! 16:34 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:34 < originalthp> who's that peer and why is he always resetting other people's connections? 16:34 < jmsbwtr> does that sound easy to do or not? and wuld any of u want it? 16:35 < aegray> posibly 16:35 < originalthp> jsmbwtr: that would just be one hook to backlight off function in the event handler as far as i know... 16:35 < aegray> yea thats not hard 16:35 < aegray> thats not even power management 16:36 < jmsbwtr> but presuamably frequency scaling and things are vry hard 16:36 < originalthp> would be a nice default, anyway.. 16:37 < originalthp> and on event hold = off switch on backlight 16:37 < originalthp> (honoring the settings "always off" and "always on" of course) 16:37 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:38 < Fenix-Dark> hi 16:39 < EiGHTBALLx> hi 16:39 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:39 < Fenix-Dark> there's a new ipod software update from apple, anyone know if it messes up with the color on the photo's in linux like it used to, or did somethin else wierd in linux? 16:40 < originalthp> Fenix-Dark: BleuLlama said it fucks up 4g podzilla display 16:40 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:40 < Fenix-Dark> ok 16:41 < jmsbwtr> wot other things aer in power management? 16:41 < EiGHTBALLx> yay i made vipodzilla mini2 compatible! 16:42 < Fenix-Dark> EiGHTBALLx, good job 16:42 < aegray> cpu frequency scaling, sleeping/turning off, battery meter... 16:42 < aegray> anything to save the battery power 16:43 < EiGHTBALLx> ill upload it 16:45 < Z_Man> NEW IPOD UPDATER OUT! 16:46 < Z_Man> i wonder if it will screw up my ipod linux installation 16:46 < Z_Man> hm... 16:46 < originalthp> Z_Man: BleuLlama said it fucks up 4g podzilla display 16:46 < EiGHTBALLx> does this mean mini? 16:46 < originalthp> somebody change that channel topic ;) 16:47 < originalthp> don#t know about mini (2g) 16:49 < Z_Man> why would it fuck it up? i thought ipl was it's own thing. why would it do that? 16:49 < Z_Man> is there a reason? 16:49 < coob> yes. 16:49 < coob> the updater changes the flash 16:49 < coob> which can nork things up in ipl 16:49 < coob> as ipl may rely on something being configured in the flash 16:50 < coob> such as happened witht he ipod photo lcd bug 16:50 < Z_Man> oh 16:50 < Z_Man> ok 16:50 < Z_Man> do you think Apple is doing this so we cant use podzilla, or is it just one of their dumb ideas? 16:50 < Z_Man> i mean 16:50 < originalthp> coob: is downgrading possible then? 16:50 < coob> um neither? 16:50 < Z_Man> i'm sure apple knows about ipod linux 16:50 < coob> they don't care about podzilla 16:50 < coob> they do whatever they need to do for their own software. 16:51 < Z_Man> yeah 16:51 < coob> originalthp: of course downgrading is possible... 16:51 < originalthp> may be a bugfix in flash ;) 16:51 < Z_Man> hmm 16:51 < EiGHTBALLx> i think they should put an api(say java?) into their next firmware and sell games through iTMS ( this is a stolen idea) 16:51 < Z_Man> i have the old Ipod Updater installer for the ipod that i just downloaded yesterday if anyone wants it 16:52 < coob> EiGHTBALLx: I'm sure if there were money in it, they'd be doing it. 16:52 < Z_Man> EiGHTballx: that would be cool 16:52 < Fenix-Dark> Z_Man, just hold onto it in a save place on ur hdd 16:52 < Z_Man> Fenix-Dark: why the hell wouldn't I do that? :-p 16:52 < Z_Man> lol 16:52 < Fenix-Dark> EiGHTBALLx, it would be hard for them to regulate something like that without some type of DRM (which in my opinion suck) 16:53 < EiGHTBALLx> there is money in it!! people in the uk pay upto £6 to have java games on their cellphone! 16:53 < coob> some poeple are retards 16:53 < Fenix-Dark> lol 16:54 < _KDE> itunes 4.9 out *shock* 16:54 < EiGHTBALLx> i found that out this morning, BUILT IN PODCASTING hooray! 16:54 < jmsbwtr> do u think itunes is good? 16:55 < Fenix-Dark> jmsbwtr, its great 16:55 < EiGHTBALLx> also itunes now has a web protocol (i forgot what its called) 16:55 < _KDE> http://www.apple.com/de/ipod/download/ 16:55 < _KDE> old version of updatzer 16:55 -!- brindo [~chris@ppp97-113.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 < jmsbwtr> is there any gnome compatible ipod media players? 16:55 < _KDE> only for us the new one is out 16:55 < _KDE> GNOME SUCKS!!!!!!!! 16:56 * Fenix-Dark just shakes his head 16:56 < _KDE> *for USA 16:56 < coob> jmsbwtr: gtkpod will load stuff. 16:56 < _KDE> isnt there a gnu ipodn project or so? 16:56 < jmsbwtr> cool, gnome doesnt suck, gnom is the best 16:57 < _KDE> kde is the best 16:57 < jmsbwtr> along with ubuntu & fedora 16:57 < jmsbwtr> no way, its far to complex 16:57 < _KDE> i dont think so 16:57 < _KDE> ok, maybe for n00bs... 16:58 < jmsbwtr> kde is too komplicated! 16:58 < Fenix-Dark> kde is bloated and gnome is ugly 16:59 < EiGHTBALLx> kde is more simple and all around better but im stuck with gnome becouse of my UBUNTU systrem, but ive learned to like it! 16:59 < jmsbwtr> konqueror has 18 items on the default menu, no uses half of them, they're just adding clutter 16:59 < _KDE> i hate the gnome file manager 16:59 < _KDE> i love konqueror 16:59 < jmsbwtr> wots rong with the gnome one? 16:59 < _KDE> Apple: "Welcome to the Golden Age of Podcasting" 17:00 < jmsbwtr> huh? 17:00 < _KDE> its very ugly 17:00 < Fenix-Dark> EiGHTBALLx, says who? you can switch to a new desktop manager on pretty much any distro 17:00 < EiGHTBALLx> i love firefox , comes with ubuntu! 17:00 < EiGHTBALLx> too much work 17:00 < jmsbwtr> :o no it isnt, gtk is a far better than qt 17:00 < Fenix-Dark> not really 17:00 < aegray> in a bash script how do you escape a ;? 17:00 < EiGHTBALLx> but i would like kde 17:01 < jmsbwtr> thts y firefox, openoffice al use gtk, not qt, because it and kde are rubbish 17:01 < _KDE> the whole gniome desktop SUCKS 17:02 < joshk> yo 17:02 < _KDE> its ugly, its unusable 17:02 < Fenix-Dark> EiGHTBALLx, just run the installer script for kde, or compile the source if u choose to do so, then edit your ~/.xinitrc to run kde instead of gnome 17:02 < EiGHTBALLx> wow, installling kde on ubuntu is as simple as this command!, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 17:02 < _KDE> i have suse linux, how is ubuntu? 17:02 < Fenix-Dark> meh... suse 17:02 < jmsbwtr> no it doesn't, it may have a lack of features but the features it does have are easy to find and use, kde just bolts on new features because it can, the outdated/non used ones get left ont there 17:02 < EiGHTBALLx> very nice! 17:03 < aegray> ipl offtopic 17:03 < jmsbwtr> ubuntu is simle & brilliant, especially now it has gnome 2.10 17:03 < aegray> #ipl-offtopic 17:03 < Fenix-Dark> aegray, \; 17:03 < EiGHTBALLx> ok , everyone join #ipl-offtopic 17:03 < _KDE> selling of 4gs stopped, im shocked http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/specs.html 17:04 < EiGHTBALLx> we found that out this morning , bleullama told us 17:04 < Fenix-Dark> LOL 17:04 < Fenix-Dark> my cousin bought a g4 2 days ago 17:05 < Fenix-Dark> aegray, \; is escape in a bash script 17:05 < _KDE> I bought mine 2 months ago 17:05 < _KDE> fuck 17:05 < aegray> thanks 17:05 < _KDE> now they all have color screen 17:05 < Fenix-Dark> np 17:05 < _KDE> hey in germany the 4g is still sold... http://www.apple.com/de/ipod/specs.html 17:05 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 17:06 < Fenix-Dark> hrm, they killed off the 30 gig photo and g4, and made the 60 gig photo $50 cheaper 17:06 < EiGHTBALLx> ok , mini2 compatible vipodzilla is up goto http://eightballx.tk/ and click m2ViPodzilla.tar.gz 17:06 < _KDE> vipodzilla sucks.... 17:07 < Fenix-Dark> _KDE, its a lot better than compiling podzilla with what you want in it 17:07 < aegray> haha 17:07 < _KDE> i use my self-built podzilla and im happy with it 17:08 < EiGHTBALLx> fair play, but this is useful for people that cant modify podzilla 17:10 < originalthp> EiGHTBALLx: you have diffs? 17:10 < _KDE> anyone got one of the new ipods? 17:10 < EiGHTBALLx> diffs? 17:10 < _KDE> is the new color screen ipod just the photo with 20gb or something else? 17:10 < _KDE> u2 with color scrren is new 17:11 < originalthp> that was foreseeable 17:11 < Fenix-Dark> _KDE, they've only been out for a few hours, i doubt that anyone has one 17:12 < EiGHTBALLx> what is diffs? 17:12 < EiGHTBALLx> *Are 17:12 < jedix> there's new ipods? 17:12 < originalthp> EiGHTBALLx: man diff 17:12 < _KDE> that was foreseeable | thats true, i thought they would stop selling the standasrd one with black screen 17:12 < Fenix-Dark> jedix, check for yourself 17:13 < _KDE> jedix: http://www.apple.com/de/ipod/specs.html 17:13 < jedix> nah, I just like adding noise 17:13 < EiGHTBALLx> yeah i have diff 17:13 < _KDE> http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/specs.html 17:13 < EiGHTBALLx> why? 17:13 < _KDE> why what? 17:14 < EiGHTBALLx> thp asked me if i have diffs 17:14 < _KDE> the mini still has black/white screen 17:14 < _KDE> ? 17:14 < originalthp> i'd be interested what has changed for vipodzilla normal and vipodzilla 2g mini 17:14 < EiGHTBALLx> just microwindows changes! 17:14 < EiGHTBALLx> all i did was compile like podzilla with the cvs microwindows 17:15 < originalthp> ah 17:15 < EiGHTBALLx> what page should i link my mini2 version to, vipodzilla or 2g mini (on wiki) 17:15 < originalthp> i see 17:15 < _KDE> both 17:15 < originalthp> i'd say vipodzilla 17:15 < originalthp> or just put up build instructions 17:15 < originalthp> + binary on the vipodzilla page 17:16 < EiGHTBALLx> can someone test the binary on a different generation to see if it works? 17:16 < _KDE> the new ipod firmware causes trouble with ipl? 17:16 < EiGHTBALLx> i think it may just work exclusively on mini2 17:16 < jedix> I have a g1 mini, but no linux running right now.. plus I'm at work 17:17 < EiGHTBALLx> does this qualify for my Contributions section on my profile? 17:17 < Fenix-Dark> jedix, what are you doing on irc when you should be working?! 17:17 < Fenix-Dark> lol 17:17 < originalthp> "Welcome to the best of both worlds. Now that iPod and iPod photo are one and the same, every white iPod boasts a full-color display" 17:17 < EiGHTBALLx> heh 17:17 < jedix> irc is a work tool 17:17 < Fenix-Dark> jedix, lol 17:17 < _KDE> originalthp: where's that on aplle website? 17:18 < originalthp> http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/ 17:18 < EiGHTBALLx> whats a pismo? 17:18 < _KDE> they arent available in germany :( 17:19 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 < originalthp> crazy http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipodyourcar.html 17:21 < _KDE> roflmao 17:23 < _KDE> aegray: iStopSpam 17:23 < aegray> ok 17:23 -!- awake`zzz [~offline@c211-30-199-28.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 17:24 -!- brindo [~chris@ppp97-113.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:26 < _KDE> if you want some fun: #ipl-offtopic 17:27 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:28 < EiGHTBALLx> why did aegray kick me? 17:28 < aegray> your done 17:29 < EiGHTBALLx> hahah aegray thats for kicking me! 17:29 < _KDE> why kicked you him? 17:29 < EiGHTBALLx> for kicking me! 17:29 < BleuLlama> 8bx: this is a pismo: http://www.apple-history.com/frames/pg3sfirewire.html 17:29 < BleuLlama> first PowerBook G3 with firewire 17:30 < BleuLlama> great machine 17:30 < BleuLlama> the case is somwhat rubberized, so it just 'feels' good to hold 17:30 < BleuLlama> it doesn't feel like it's going to slip out of your hands 17:31 < EiGHTBALLx> cool shame about the 400MHz processor though 17:31 < BleuLlama> http://www.apple-history.com/frames/ibookse.html although these have the awesome handle 17:31 < BleuLlama> shame? dude. that machine is 5 years old 17:31 < BleuLlama> it's a shame that your Celeron 300 is so slow. etc. 17:31 < BleuLlama> you can buy processor upgrades for the pismo, iirc 17:32 < EiGHTBALLx> i know i am gonna sound stupid but wtf does iirc stand for? 17:32 < BleuLlama> if i recall correctly 17:32 < originalthp> if i recall correctly 17:32 < originalthp> yay 17:32 < EiGHTBALLx> ok thanx 17:33 < coob> idiotic inuendo rapes clowns. 17:33 < EiGHTBALLx> lol 17:33 < EiGHTBALLx> they banned me from offtopic! 17:34 < EiGHTBALLx> b*stards 17:34 < _KDE> COZ YA SUCK 17:34 < aegray> you can go back 17:34 < _KDE> i unblocked you 17:34 < EiGHTBALLx> thank you 17:35 < BleuLlama> man. i want my cube, damnit 17:39 < _KDE> #ipl-offtopic for "fucked up people" ;) 17:40 < originalthp> cube? 17:41 < BleuLlama> http://www.apple-history.com/frames/g4cube.html 17:43 -!- Silyx [~Silyx@24.241.3.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:43 < Fenix-Dark> i wonder how many people threw the guts of a mini into the cube case 17:46 < _KDE> http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipodyourcar.html ... MercedeZ-Benz... lol 17:49 < EiGHTBALLx> i just made my user page ! 17:49 < EiGHTBALLx> http://ipodlinux.org/User:Eightballx 17:49 < aegray> i'm going to edit it 17:49 < BleuLlama> why bother, fenix. you gain nothing by doing that 17:49 < BleuLlama> the mini can fit in the space underneath the cube 17:50 < BleuLlama> cube cases are really hard and expensive to get, and a mini isn't as expandable as the cube 17:52 -!- Silyx [~Silyx@24.241.3.42] has joined #ipodlinux 17:58 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 18:03 < zsr> looks like apple totally switched the ipod to color 18:04 < zsr> they phased out the regular ipod for the photo 18:04 < originalthp> except for mini (for now) 18:04 < zsr> yeah 18:04 < BleuLlama> it's not "iPod Photo", now it's "Color iPod" 18:04 < BleuLlama> or "iPod with color screen" 18:04 < zsr> gotcha 18:12 -!- mrbacon [~pl_lws@cpe-24-175-64-86.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:12 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:13 -!- mrbacon [~pl_lws@cpe-24-175-64-86.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:13 -!- npalko [~npalko@INODEB123.kfunigraz.ac.at] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 -!- npalko [~npalko@INODEB123.kfunigraz.ac.at] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:22 -!- _KDE [~chatzilla@ppp-82-135-72-88.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 18:26 < Fenix-Dark> BlueLlama, you're able to use a faster cpu, ddr ram (although only 1 slot) airport extreme, and a superdrive 18:26 -!- Hostile [lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:26 < Fenix-Dark> and internal blue tooth 18:27 < BleuLlama> what's the advantage of tearing apart a cube and putting the tiny mini into the much larger cube case? 18:27 < crashd> does anyone know if there's any free 'shell' services that run mac hardware? 18:27 < Fenix-Dark> if you like how the cube looks, you could get a cube case off ebay for like $20 and put the not-as-eye pleasing mini inside it 18:28 < BleuLlama> i think they're equally attractive, plus the mini takes up SIGNIFICANTLY less space, you can just stash it aside somewhere 18:28 < BleuLlama> i don't think anyones done that transplant, since it's less than smart. 18:29 < Fenix-Dark> i still think the cube is a much cooler case 18:29 < BleuLlama> and you will not find a cube case on ebay for $20. $100 if you're lucky 18:29 < jmsbwtr> how long does ipl last while playing music b4 the battery dies? 18:29 < Fenix-Dark> jmsbwtr, depends on the ipod 18:29 < jmsbwtr> a 4g? 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> dunno, i dont have a g4 18:30 < jmsbwtr> wot have u got? 18:30 < BleuLlama> 4g not g4 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> i remember a g3 lasted like 30 minutes 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> i ment 4 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> 4g* 18:30 < BleuLlama> 3g 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> lol yea 18:30 < jmsbwtr> so a 4g only lasts 30 mins whie playing music? 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> no 18:30 < jmsbwtr> a 3g? 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> 3g lasted only 30 minute 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> minutes* 18:30 < Fenix-Dark> lol 18:31 < Fenix-Dark> i can't type anymore 18:31 < jmsbwtr> o rite, wot about a 4g or doesnt anyone know? 18:31 < BleuLlama> sounds like you have a bad battery in that 3g 18:31 < jmsbwtr> lol 18:31 < BleuLlama> jms: get a spell checker. 18:31 < BleuLlama> right* what* 18:31 < jmsbwtr> sorry, i will type properly! 18:31 < Fenix-Dark> BlueLlama, it lasted a good 6 hours in the apple firmware, but like 30 minutes in ipl 18:32 -!- zoid [zoid@nr9-216-68-183-1.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 < jmsbwtr> i knew a power management system was needed but i didn't realise one was needed that badly 18:32 < Fenix-Dark> if you've got a g4 your batter will last a while 18:32 < Fenix-Dark> it lasted for over 2 hours in my photo 18:32 < jmsbwtr> cool 18:32 < BleuLlama> my 1g lasts many hours, as does my 4g 18:33 < Fenix-Dark> i didn't really test it out to see exactly how long it lasts 18:33 < Fenix-Dark> i just know with a 3g it didn't last long at all 18:34 < BleuLlama> well, i think you're the only person who has complained about bad battery life on 3g 18:34 < Fenix-Dark> that g3 i had died, and it was replaced with an equally priced photo since bestbuy didn't have any of the 3g's of equal price in stock 18:34 < jmsbwtr> BleuLlama what are you wrking on now? is it you whos working on alarms and stopwatch? 18:34 < Fenix-Dark> BlueLlama, i have no complaints, just telling jmsbwtr how long it lasted for me 18:34 < BleuLlama> not stopwatch, and i started on alarms, but haven't touched it in a month or so 18:34 < jmsbwtr> oh right 18:36 < zoid> is there a way to update the ipod's firmware from windows without having to connect it to an external power supply to finish the update? 18:36 < jmsbwtr> im only a very basic programer but i was going to have a go at writing a freecell game for ipl, based on a gpl version for palm, i think i told you before, im sure somewhere on the websiet there was a basic game with a walkthrough of what every line of code did, ws that my imagination or is there such a page? 18:36 < coob> very basic? 18:36 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 18:36 < coob> is that like quick basic? 18:37 < BleuLlama> there's a programming for podzilla page on the wiki 18:37 < jmsbwtr> no, its semi compitant at VB and some basic c++ 18:37 < Fenix-Dark> zoid, not that i know of 18:38 < zoid> bah, i'm at work and just updated it and i won't be home to get my adapter for quite some time :/ 18:40 < Fenix-Dark> zoid, well if you get a break and there's an apple store close, i'm sure they'd let you plug in your ipod to update it there 18:42 < zoid> true, and there is an apple store only 10 minutes away from me right now :) 18:43 < coob> yay, thunderstorm 18:45 < zoid> coob: same here 18:45 < EiGHTBALLx> hello 18:46 < EiGHTBALLx> im back 18:47 < jmsbwtr> eightballx: how long does your mini last on one battery? 18:47 < EiGHTBALLx> i dont know, its never been depleted! 18:47 < EiGHTBALLx> quite long 18:47 < jmsbwtr> lol, o, ok 18:48 < EiGHTBALLx> have you had a go with with vipodzilla for the mini2? 18:49 < jmsbwtr> wouldnt it be great if music wuld work on ipl minis :) hint hint! :p 18:49 < coob> it does. 18:49 < jmsbwtr> not on 2g minis 18:49 < EiGHTBALLx> im not the person to hint at, go hint at aegray or leachbj 18:49 < jmsbwtr> :( 18:49 < coob> or how about not bothering them 18:49 < EiGHTBALLx> thats also good :) 18:49 < jmsbwtr> i wasnt going to 18:50 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h232n2fls34o263.telia.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 18:50 < jmsbwtr> i thought since eightball had modded vipodzilla he mite no wot he was doing in the kernel aswell 18:50 < coob> hahaha 18:50 < coob> it takes a chimp to mod podzilla 18:50 < jmsbwtr> well, hoping is maybe a mor accurate description 18:50 < coob> it takes a man to hack at the kernel :D 18:50 < EiGHTBALLx> sorry, but no, it doesnt take much to compile vip to run on mini2 18:51 * coob still a chimp 18:51 < jmsbwtr> lol 18:51 < EiGHTBALLx> i can compile kernel tho 18:51 < EiGHTBALLx> but thats not hard! 18:51 < jmsbwtr> what was the problem with gettin ipl to boot on 2g minis because we were a little bit behind 4gs werent we 18:52 < EiGHTBALLx> they use the pp5022 proccessor rather than the regular pp5020 or pp5022 18:52 < EiGHTBALLx> **i mean the regular 5002 18:52 < EiGHTBALLx> the new color ipods shipping today have pp522 18:53 < EiGHTBALLx> the new color ipods shipping today have pp5022 18:53 < Fenix-Dark> oh 18:53 < EiGHTBALLx> the LCD did not work properl either 18:53 < jmsbwtr> yes but arent the registers sposed to be the same? 18:55 < EiGHTBALLx> yes but IRQ's werent same with LCD drivers 18:55 < coob> EiGHTBALLx: they do? says who? 18:55 < EiGHTBALLx> i heard it from somewhere 18:56 < EiGHTBALLx> wait, it was on the mini2 page a while ago 18:56 < EiGHTBALLx> about IRQ's not being set up right 18:56 < coob> no 18:56 < coob> [20:55] EiGHTBALLx | the new color ipods shipping today have pp5022 18:56 < coob> sounds like speculation rather than fact! 18:56 < jmsbwtr> well, it probably does 18:57 < jmsbwtr> it's very unlikely that they will use a pp5020 18:57 < coob> and you're saying this based on what? 18:57 < jmsbwtr> unless they have yet another brand new chip 18:57 < coob> it uses exactly the same firmware as the ipod photo. 18:57 < EiGHTBALLx> i said EiGHTBALLx the new color ipods shipping today have pp5022 18:57 < EiGHTBALLx> bleullama said it 18:58 < coob> bleullama said it may 18:58 < jmsbwtr> this is my opinion, its not fact by any stretch of the imagination 18:58 < BleuLlama> i said it might 18:58 < EiGHTBALLx> well ill dig up some stuff then 18:58 < BleuLlama> after more info came in though, it probably is 5020 18:58 < BleuLlama> it's probably *exactly* the same hardware as the Photo 18:58 < originalthp> coob: well, ipod mini firmware is also one and the same for mini and mini g2 (that is, 5020 and 5022) 18:58 < EiGHTBALLx> hold on, the new updater will have the firmware i will search for traces of anyhting leading to 5022 18:58 < coob> no it isn't 18:59 < jmsbwtr> but why would apple ship a brand new ipod with a chip that does exatcly the same but use more power? 18:59 < originalthp> it isn't? 18:59 < coob> originalthp: there's Firmware-6.2.4 18:59 < BleuLlama> mini and mini2 firmwares are different 18:59 < coob> which is mini 1g 18:59 < coob> and Firmware-7.2.4 18:59 < coob> which is mini 2g 18:59 < BleuLlama> who said it uses more power? 18:59 < originalthp> oh 18:59 < BleuLlama> it uses the same as the photo 18:59 < originalthp> but the "consumer version" (which doesn not mean the same thing) is equal, right? 18:59 -!- Z_Man [~zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:00 < coob> infact 19:00 < coob> if you strings the firmware file 19:00 < coob> PP5020AF-05.00-PP07-05.00-PP07-05.00-DT 19:00 < coob> you get that 19:00 < coob> so i say it's probably still a PP5020 19:00 < EiGHTBALLx> ok then, i was wrong (actually bleullama wasw wrong) 19:00 < coob> or maybe the PP5022 has a PP5020 compatibility mode, I don't know 19:00 < coob> EiGHTBALLx: no, you were. you said it was, he said it might be. 19:01 -!- cucamacuca [~nao@bl5-209-3.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 19:01 < cucamacuca> ola 19:01 < BleuLlama> i can't say i was wrong, when i said "might be" 19:01 < EiGHTBALLx> ok i was wrong 19:01 < EiGHTBALLx> i believe its HOLA 19:01 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDED7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 19:02 < EiGHTBALLx> mini1 and mini2 firmware are different! 19:02 < zsr> yep :) 19:03 < EiGHTBALLx> can someone test my vipodzilla for mini2 to see if it works on other gens its located at eightballx.cjb.net 19:03 < originalthp> it should work, yes 19:03 < EiGHTBALLx> it definatley works for mini2 because i run it 19:03 < EiGHTBALLx> i read something about a podzilla not working because it was remoddled for mini2 19:04 < originalthp> you didn't "remoddle" it 19:04 < originalthp> you compiled it with the most recent cvs of microwindows 19:04 < cucamacuca> humm does .pdf will be supported? 19:07 < originalthp> hm? 19:07 < disident> cucamacuca, that could be great 19:08 < disident> and links2 for webpage 19:08 < cucamacuca> im asking if anyone is working on that? 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> disident, what good would an internet browser be on an ipod that *isnt* connected to the internet 19:08 < cucamacuca> that too... :P 19:08 < disident> Fenix-Dark, :) 19:09 < disident> Fenix-Dark, with css you can format text... 19:09 < Fenix-Dark> ok 19:09 < disident> just an idea 19:09 < disident> dunno if it's possible to get working the framebuffer in podzilla 19:10 < cucamacuca> why not? 19:10 < disident> dunno 19:11 < disident> how the video is displayed? 19:16 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~zak@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16 < cucamacuca> didnt you tried to install podzilla? 19:22 < disident> ? 19:29 < jmsbwtr> does it matter if an image i am uploading is ovr 100k in size? 19:29 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h232n2fls34o263.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 < jmsbwtr> should i edit them all first? 19:29 < coob> what is it of? 19:29 < jmsbwtr> just a few screenshots of my 2g mini, nothing radical 19:29 < coob> there's already a few of those, upload them if you want though. 19:35 < jmsbwtr> i was also going to write up instructions with screenshots as to how to install on a 2g mini on www.ipodlinux.org/2g_mini, is anyone else planning on doing that or should i do it? 19:37 < coob> don't put it there 19:37 < coob> and the instructions would be exactly the same as the 329048320942 ones that are out there for the 4g/photo anyway 19:41 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:42 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 -!- jblake [~root@CPE001217ba2417-CM024470002691.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:42 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["Leaving this world"] 19:42 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 < jblake> hey everyone, Im having a couple of issues with compiling mpd for use on the ipod, I've been talking a bit with normalperson in #mpd, but I still havent been able to come to any resolutions, so Im hopoing someone here can help me out. 19:46 < coob> hello again jblake 19:46 < jblake> lol, hey coob 19:46 < coob> like i said before, make sure you're using the right toolchain 19:46 < jblake> yea yea, i am this time, 19:46 < jblake> lemme show u the problem 19:47 < jblake> /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools/bin/arm-elf-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I /usr/include -I /iPod_root/usr/local/include -I/iPod_root/usr/lib/include -mtune=arm7tdmi -mcpu=arm7tdmi -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -DNDEBUG -O3 -c -o mpd-interface.o `test -f 'interface.c' || echo './'`interface.c 19:47 < jblake> interface.c: In function `addInterfacesReadyToReadAndListenSocketToFdSet': 19:47 < jblake> interface.c:337: error: impossible constraint in `asm' 19:47 < jblake> {standard input}: Assembler messages: 19:47 < jblake> {standard input}:100: Error: bad instruction `btsl r2,[r0,r1,asl#2]' 19:47 < jblake> {standard input}:135: Error: bad instruction `btsl r1,[r8,r2,asl#2]' 19:47 < jblake> make[3]: *** [mpd-interface.o] Error 1 19:47 < jblake> make[3]: Leaving directory `/iPod_home/mpd/mpd-uclinux-0.11.5/src' 19:47 < jblake> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 19:47 < aegray> swimming! 19:48 < jblake> sorry, 19:48 < macpod> post in ipodlinux.flood 19:48 < aegray> i need a qtip to get the water out of my ears 19:49 -!- cucamacuca [~nao@bl5-209-3.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 19:53 < jblake> Sorry about the flood. So yea, thats the problem I'm running into when compiling MPD for the iPod 19:54 < coob> ok, thats just odd :/ 19:54 < coob> and why is thta path full? 19:55 < jblake> it was redirecting to the old toolchain despite any efforts made to have it point to the new toolchain 19:56 < jblake> it compiles several files however and links etc, just as it should for the rest of the sources except for this one, and one other which returns a bug error in gcc, 19:59 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0009P12.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:07 < coob> ok, well the toolchian I usewell, it compiles fine for me heh 20:09 < coob> in fact isn't that a non arm op? 20:09 < coob> also, -I /usr/include looks very very wrong 20:09 < coob> as does -I /iPod_root/usr/local/include -I/iPod_root/usr/lib/include 20:10 < aegray> thats what I thought 20:10 < aegray> it looks like hes got the wrong target selected 20:11 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:18 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0003P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 20:24 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 < jblake> the include directories arent for use by this specific file. they were passed during the configuration script in order to include a compiled mad library, id3tag library and a zlib library sitting on the ipod so that mpd will run independantly on the ipod 20:27 < aegray> what was your ./configure line? 20:27 < jblake> ummm hang on, lemme pull it up 20:28 < jblake> ./configure CPPFLAGS="-I /usr/include -I /iPod_root/usr/local/include" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-elf2flt -Wl,-O1 -L /iPod_root/usr/local/lib" CFLAGS="-mtune=arm7tdmi -mcpu=arm7tdmi -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -DNDEBUG -O3" --prefix=/iPod_root/usr --host=arm-elf --with-id3tag="/iPod_root/usr/local/lib" --enable-uclinux --disable-aac --enable-mpd-ivorbis --disable-flac --disable-http --disable-alsa --disable-shout --disable-mod - 20:28 < jblake> -enable-static --disable-shared --disable-3dnow --enable-aso --enable-fpm=arm --enable-speed --with-mad="/iPod_root/usr/lib" 20:29 < jblake> there wasnt the new line in the terminal, irc split it up 20:29 < aegray> i thought coob had an easy build set up for this 20:29 < aegray> am i wrong in that? 20:29 < jblake> it only creates a flac compatible build, and it doesnt work anyways when compiling on my system using the latest uclinux patch for mpd 20:30 < aegray> oh ok 20:30 < jblake> anyways, i need to go to work, ill b back in about 5 hours, 20:30 < aegray> short work 20:30 < jblake> but feel free to contribute any other info if you guys have it 20:30 < jblake> lol, part time of course 20:31 < aegray> i thought that you had to specify which assembly includes to go with 20:31 < aegray> doesn't look like thats happening here 20:32 < jblake> all the tags i used in the configuration were pulled from that easy config file with the exception of the additional features, 20:33 < aegray> hmm 20:34 < aegray> I'll ask coob about it 20:34 < BleuLlama> ---> #ipodlinux.flood 20:34 < BleuLlama> please 20:34 < BleuLlama> or i'll kick your asses 20:41 -!- Z_Man [~zachary@cpe-24-209-92-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:42 < aegray> i'll call my dad on you bleullama 20:42 < aegray> he'd be mad if you kicked my as 20:42 < aegray> s 20:44 < Z_Man> lol 20:44 < Z_Man> what's this about? 20:45 < aegray> he threatened my family 20:47 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:48 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 20:49 < macpod> GOT A PROBLEM, MY CAPS KEY IS STUCK 20:49 < macpod> lol 20:49 < aegray> OMFG LINUX DIDN"T WORK ON MY IPOD CAN YOU HELP ME?? 20:49 < macpod> No, you see the sad thing is that was a forum topic 20:50 < aegray> really? 20:50 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2584&highlight= 20:50 < macpod> It started off as GOT A PROBLEM 20:51 < aegray> haha i hate that guy 20:51 < aegray> he ims me all the time 20:51 < aegray> "my wireless card doesn't work in linux, what do i do?" 20:51 < macpod> Yea, the first time you posted a message with your aim I was going to remove it for you 20:51 < Z_Man> HAHAH 20:51 < Z_Man> what a loser 20:51 < aegray> should have 20:52 < macpod> but I saw you had it in your profile so I did not bother 20:52 < aegray> although hes the only one i had any trouble with 20:52 < macpod> If I were you, I would remove it 20:52 < macpod> What happens is you will get someone from a gamers forum 20:52 < coob> wow, convbdf really likes to fuck up my fonts :) 20:52 < macpod> and then they share your aim, and soon enough you get noobed 20:52 < aegray> o god 20:53 < aegray> i'll leave up my msn one because I don't really care if they have that 20:53 < aegray> (don't use it enough) 20:57 < coob> well, fontforge does a shitty job of converting ttf->bdf :/ 20:57 < macpod> Are there plans of adding a font bundle for people to download and abuse? 20:59 -!- pmw5 [~pmw8@p54A60476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:59 < pmw5> Hi! 21:00 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:00 < macpod> Greetings and salutations! 21:00 < EiGHTBALLx> huh? 21:00 < pmw5> I know that iPodLinux for iPod 4G is not offical supported. 21:00 < aegray> bad start 21:00 < pmw5> But I have tested it and found some bugs. 21:00 < coob> macpod, that's hard, there's not many decent free fonts 21:00 < coob> trying to convert some now, fontforge sucks :/ 21:01 < pmw5> Is there a bug list? 21:01 < aegray> whats the bug? 21:01 < aegray> and are you using the latest nightly? 21:01 < EiGHTBALLx> oh yeah can i get fonts for podzilla? 21:01 < pmw5> Where I can post them. 21:01 < aegray> flyspray 21:01 < EiGHTBALLx> on here 21:01 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/requests/index.php?tasks=all&project=0 21:01 < aegray> are you using the latest nightly? 21:01 < pmw5> no 21:02 < aegray> do that first 21:02 < MikeRS> you only need to look at the wiki: http://ipodlinux.org/Fonts 21:02 < aegray> it might have been fixed 21:02 < pmw5> iPod chess makes a big mistake if I play Mittel-Gambit 21:02 < aegray> wow 21:02 < macpod> lol 21:02 < aegray> don't know what that is 21:03 < MikeRS> oh yeah... what's holding back iPodLinux on the 4G from being officially support anyway? 21:03 < macpod> Noobs asking questions like that 21:03 < MikeRS> I mean... everything works it seems :/ 21:03 < aegray> hahaha macpod 21:04 < pmw5> Mittel-Gambit is a chess opening strategy 21:04 -!- corpix [~corpix@p54BDED7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:04 < corpix> re 21:04 < aegray> how does it screw up? 21:04 < macpod> hmm if it is strategy it probably isn't an ipl bug 21:04 < corpix> anything new about the sound on 2g mini ? 21:04 < aegray> but I need it to be smart enough to play me! 21:04 < EiGHTBALLx> nope 21:04 < MikeRS> Well, get a good chess program >_> 21:04 < EiGHTBALLx> no sound on mimi 21:05 < MikeRS> get Deep Blue and beat 21:06 < macpod> pmw5 you might want to contact Tom Kerrigan, tuxchess is a port 21:06 < macpod> http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~kerrigat/ 21:06 < aegray> any bugs having to do with the system and not strategy? 21:06 < macpod> Well it is a strategy/game bug 21:06 < macpod> not a physical movement bug right? 21:07 < EiGHTBALLx> hmmm are the nightlies compatible with mini2 yet? ie, latest kernel 21:07 < coob> of cours.e 21:07 < macpod> I.E. the pieces may have made an illegal move, but you can still interact with the game normally 21:07 < joshk> oho 21:08 < BleuLlama> game strategy or lack thereof is not a bug 21:09 < Z_Man> if anyone needs the old iPod firmware installer for Windows, i have it. and i'm going to post it on my website. 21:09 * coob sends takedown notice 21:09 < BleuLlama> Z_man: there are legalities involved with doing that 21:09 < aegray> haha 21:09 < BleuLlama> otherwise, we'd have the old installers up on our site. 21:10 < Z_Man> why isnt that legal? because i'm posting apple's stuff? 21:10 < Z_Man> why is*- 21:10 < aegray> yes 21:10 < Z_Man> dah 21:10 < Z_Man> that's gay 21:10 < Z_Man> well if anyone wants it 21:10 < Z_Man> ask me 21:10 < BleuLlama> that's called a "software license" 21:10 < Z_Man> and i will DCC it over 21:10 < BleuLlama> you agreed to it when you downloaded it 21:11 < Z_Man> BleuLlama: i never read it though :-p 21:11 < BleuLlama> I never read the laws for my country, therefore i can kill peopple and not be prosecuted for it? 21:11 < BleuLlama> not an excuse. 21:11 < MikeRS> Why? Was there a recent update that breaks iPodLinux? <_< 21:12 < BleuLlama> the 6/26 update (at least for 4g) breaks ipl, yes 21:12 < coob> fine for the photo 21:12 < Z_Man> BleuLlama: that's not what i meant 21:13 < pmw5> @macpod: Thanks. 21:14 < pmw5> The url doesn't work. 21:14 < joshk> oooooooh 21:15 < jmsbwtr> aegray: i have fonud a bug in the video program, i don't know if you know about it 21:15 < aegray> whats the bug 21:15 < jmsbwtr> you can only play a avi file once, if you want to play it again you have to restart your iPod 21:15 < macpod> Thomas.Kerrigan@Colorado.EDU 21:15 < Z_Man> no you dont 21:15 < aegray> its only certain encoded files 21:15 < aegray> i think* 21:15 < Z_Man> oh 21:15 < pmw5> thanks 21:15 < disident> you don't in an ipod photo... 21:15 < aegray> i'm not fixing anything 21:16 < aegray> because I'm rewriting 21:16 < aegray> atm 21:16 < jmsbwtr> you do, it says loading forever, i watched that diving clip, once 21:16 < jmsbwtr> and the second time it wuldnt load 21:16 < aegray> yea - some clips do that, some don't 21:16 < jmsbwtr> o rite 21:16 < aegray> itll be fixed in the new version 21:16 < jmsbwtr> btw, i think video was suprisingly good, well done 21:16 < aegray> thanks 21:16 < Z_Man> has anyone pinpointed the problem that the new apple os firmware updater creates? 21:16 < originalthp> is soft reboot fixed in 2g mini already? 21:16 < Z_Man> yes it is 21:16 < originalthp> ok 21:17 < jmsbwtr> i was expecting the screen to be to poor on quality but it wasnt and it played rly smoothly, well done 21:17 < coob> a clap for aegray! 21:17 * coob claps wildly 21:17 < aegray> haha 21:17 < coob> at least its not the clap :D 21:17 * joshk is taking apart the diag 21:17 < aegray> already got that 21:17 < aegray> didn't feel nice either 21:17 * joshk recognized the backlight-on and backlight-off functions straight off 21:18 < MikeRS> anyway... does having iPodLinux with the 6/26 update cause neither Apple OS nor iPL to work, or just iPL? 21:18 < BleuLlama> just ipl 21:18 < BleuLlama> apple os seems good 21:18 < coob> unless you're on a 1/2g 21:18 < BleuLlama> haven't done extensive testing.. tried a game, playing a song, navigating and playing a podcast... 21:19 < Z_Man> what's wrong with it on a 1/2g? 21:19 < BleuLlama> on 4g 21:19 < BleuLlama> 1g/2g doesn't work with 1.5 21:19 < coob> it eats your first born. 21:19 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:19 < Z_Man> oh crap 21:19 < BleuLlama> slashes the tires on your car 21:19 < MikeRS> Ok, I'll right a quick paragraph on the 4g page; if anyone has more details, append. I'm basically stressing that it is *unsupported* 21:19 < Z_Man> i dont have a car 21:19 < Z_Man> i'm only 14 21:19 < BleuLlama> unless you're in the UK, in which case it slashes your tyres. 21:19 < Z_Man> lol 21:19 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Success] 21:20 < Z_Man> and what does the new apple os firmware updater change in the 4g ipod that makes podzilla all fukked up? 21:20 < coob> how about letting us fix it 21:20 < coob> instead of buggin us 21:20 < macpod> taht is not necessary MikeRS 21:20 < Z_Man> sorry 21:20 < Z_Man> just wanted to know 21:20 < Z_Man> i'm a curious person 21:20 < BleuLlama> it breaks things. 21:20 < Z_Man> oh 21:21 < Z_Man> that's obvious 21:21 < BleuLlama> that's your answer 21:21 < Z_Man> thanks :-p 21:22 < MikeRS> can we expect that new iPod won't have the older firmware version on the CD? >_> I only bought an iPod once, I don't know 21:22 < BleuLlama> i can't parse that in any way that makes sense. 21:23 < aegray> haha 21:23 < MikeRS> I couldn't put it in a way that made sense 21:24 < MikeRS> iPods shipped after this months would only have the June 26 firmware version on their CDs, right? 21:24 < aegray> yes 21:24 < MikeRS> I'd expect that... but frankly, the iPod is the only thing from Apple that I have 21:25 < MikeRS> I never even used the CD; I run Slackware Linux! :p 21:25 < EiGHTBALLx> how do linux users update their fw? 21:25 < Z_Man> heheh 21:25 < Z_Man> they dont 21:25 < MikeRS> I don't know, I haven't tried 21:25 < jmsbwtr> how do you exit PodWrite? 21:25 < pmw5> Is there a new 4G Installer since 5-27-2005? 21:25 < EiGHTBALLx> using the hold switch 21:25 < jmsbwtr> o 21:25 < EiGHTBALLx> filck it on and off 21:25 < Z_Man> you need Windows or a Mac, EIGHTBALLx 21:26 < coob> http://ipodlinux/Updater 21:26 < MikeRS> I do have Windows 2000 in another partition, so that would be useful in the event that I want to update it 21:26 < coob> thats how they update. 21:26 < jmsbwtr> ty 21:26 < Z_Man> wait 21:26 < Z_Man> am i wrong? 21:26 < EiGHTBALLx> ok , i have to go now byeee 21:26 < coob> yes. 21:26 < BleuLlama> jms: ask the author, not us. 21:26 < BleuLlama> pwm: we've only been saying that all freaking day. 21:26 < pmw5> ok 21:26 < pmw5> I am sorry. 21:26 < EiGHTBALLx> 2morrow i will work on putting video player into VIPODZILLA 21:27 < Z_Man> lol 21:27 < Z_Man> yep 21:27 < EiGHTBALLx> oh, its already there, bye 21:27 -!- EiGHTBALLx [~EiGHTBALL@host81-155-85-89.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 21:27 < Z_Man> EiGHTBALLx: the creator of viPodzilla, will be happy.. damn 21:27 < BleuLlama> wow 21:27 < Z_Man> he lef 21:27 < BleuLlama> just... wow 21:27 < Z_Man> left 21:27 < Z_Man> what? 21:28 < pmw5> The I leave on the "offical" 5-27-2005 build. 21:28 < Z_Man> what? 21:28 < Z_Man> i cant parse that statment pmw5... 21:29 < BleuLlama> he's saying he's leaving on old firmware on his ipod 21:29 < Z_Man> oh 21:29 < BleuLlama> dunno why he's calling it "official", since all of apple's releases are "official"... it's redundant. 21:29 < pmw5> Then I leave it at the "offical" 5-27-2005 build for iPod 4G. 21:29 < Z_Man> hmm 21:30 < Z_Man> that statement didnt change much did it? 21:30 < Z_Man> lol 21:30 < pmw5> I don't upade the iPodLinux 5-27-2005 version. 21:31 -!- originalthp [~thomas@L0003P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:31 < pmw5> I know that my English is very bad. 21:31 < corpix> what *.c file would be a good example i could use to ask if either podzilla or vipodzilla should be started ? 21:31 < aegray> there isn't one 21:32 < corpix> hmm 21:32 < Z_Man> pmw5, it's ok 21:32 < coob> minesweeper.c 21:32 < coob> is well written 21:32 < aegray> you can run vipodzilla from inside podzilla 21:32 < coob> for me, anyway :) 21:32 < aegray> haha 21:32 < coob> oh 21:32 < corpix> aegray: i know, but i thought there may be wasted resources ? 21:32 < coob> gah 21:32 < coob> vipodzilla needs to die 21:32 < coob> now 21:32 < aegray> no shit 21:32 < coob> yes, plenty of shit :) 21:33 < corpix> dopewars rocks 21:33 < coob> the connect 4 game has its own darn mwin stuff 21:33 < coob> it doesn't use mlist 21:33 < aegray> what?? 21:33 < coob> which is a huge waste 21:33 < aegray> haha 21:33 < coob> once it does use mlist, it'll go into the official podzilla. 21:33 < aegray> who wrote that 21:33 < aegray> ? 21:33 < coob> dopewars? someone on the forums 21:33 < coob> to be fair it was written before courtc wrote mlist :) 21:33 < aegray> ah 21:34 < coob> but yeah, it doesn't use mlist so doesn't scale very well. 21:34 * coob compiles hfs and mac parition support into his laptop's kernel 21:35 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:35 -!- birostick [~stonetake@25-77.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:39 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:42 -!- mydogisotis [~mydogisot@pool-71-96-109-122.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 * joshk found sprintf in firmware 21:43 -!- mydogisotis [~mydogisot@pool-71-96-109-122.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:52 -!- jmsbwtr [~chatzilla@ACD47F9E.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 22:03 < pmw5> shit, since I have updated the Apple iPod 4G firmware to 3.1 I can't install iPod Linux :( 22:03 < corpix> these holes ... 22:04 < pmw5> linux starts but not podzilla 22:07 -!- ^0tso [~Alex@h232n2fls34o263.telia.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:15 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 22:19 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 22:21 < smacmac> i didn't see any warnings about the 1.5 FW for 2G iPods... Does it work now? 22:22 < courtc> not quite sure it ever didn't work. 22:25 < smacmac> ok. I guess that means it is not fixed. Thanks anyway. It wasn't a that big upgrade 22:25 -!- pmw5 [~pmw8@p54A60476.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:25 < courtc> It has been tested lately and nobody has had a problem. 22:26 < smacmac> k. That is great 22:26 < smacmac> but it was a problem once 22:27 < courtc> make a backup though. 22:27 < courtc> refer to http://ipodlinux.org/requests/index.php?do=details&id=48 22:28 < courtc> maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. It happens. 22:29 < smacmac> But your link seemed great! 22:38 -!- Onieseus [~Onieseus@n2-17-10.dhcp.drexel.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:39 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-153-191-5.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:39 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 22:40 < Onieseus> Hi everyone! 22:40 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 22:40 -!- Onieseus [~Onieseus@n2-17-10.dhcp.drexel.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:40 -!- javyx [~javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 22:41 -!- javyx [~javyx@mail.xentonix.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:44 < aegray> omg http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/27/1923259&tid=191&tid=14 22:44 < coob> russians were doing that ages ago :D 22:50 < CIA-5> leachbj * linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/audio.c: 22:50 < CIA-5> first cut for mini2 audio support 22:50 < CIA-5> added support for 12,16,22.05 and 24kHz audio (for 4g and later iPods) 22:53 < corpix> CIA-5: will "malloc failed" still appear on larger files (>50 minutes), if there are in 24kHz ? 22:55 < coob> cia-5 is a bot. 22:55 < coob> and yes. 23:02 * normalperson laughs at the way podzilla does file buffering 23:02 < aegray> hahahaha 23:03 * coob laughs at the way mpd chokes on small reads :) 23:04 < aegray> ooo burn 23:04 < normalperson> hehe 23:04 < coob> hey np i was gunna re write that simplify it a bit 23:04 < normalperson> sure 23:04 * leachbj waits until you slackers have integrated mpd into podzilla ;) 23:05 < normalperson> eew... 23:05 < joshk> waaaah 23:05 < joshk> i guess leachbj beat me 23:05 < joshk> but it was fun anyway :) 23:05 < aegray> haha 23:05 < aegray> thats how i always feel 23:05 < joshk> is there a way i can get access to dev cvs? 23:05 < aegray> we should just not try 23:05 < aegray> :) 23:06 < joshk> i'd like to try that out immediately 23:06 < aegray> subscribe to the cvs patchlist 23:06 < coob> so there's no fast_fill 23:06 < coob> if the read is less than READ_SIZE, it reads READ_SIZE into the buffer and keeps chugging along with that 23:06 < coob> if it's more, it just reads that ammount in 23:06 < coob> haha 23:06 < coob> hm lag 23:06 < aegray> i'll send it to you if you want joshk 23:06 < normalperson> coob: *shrug* I haven't looked at the code in few months 23:06 < joshk> aegray: ok 23:06 < joshk> just the diff to audio.c 23:06 < aegray> email? 23:06 < coob> np np! 23:06 < normalperson> coob: the code does something like that the code says :) 23:07 < coob> nah 23:07 < coob> if fast_fill is rediculously small 23:07 < coob> it chokes 23:07 < coob> i'm talking like 8 byte reads here... 23:08 < coob> gah wheres vet, i can't login to the blog 23:08 < leachbj> hmm works for me... 23:08 < leachbj> but i think i have the "remember me" or equiv setup 23:08 -!- p13 [~p13@d54C258F8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:09 < joshk> aegray: joshk@triplehelix.org 23:09 -!- Luke__ [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:09 < aegray> forwarded 23:09 < coob> yeha, but you can remember your passwd :D 23:09 < normalperson> coob: then don't let fast_fill get set or lower the usleep for low values of fast_fill in read_file_buffer() 23:09 < leachbj> actually i cant, firefox can though ;) 23:10 < coob> haha, just tried my old browser and it remembered me :D 23:10 < normalperson> yeah, you probably shouldn't use fast_fill for small files 23:10 -!- rage [~rage@ppp111-71.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:10 < normalperson> I wrote this thing with large FLAC files in mind 23:10 < coob> yeah 23:11 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@69-171-76-168.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:11 < normalperson> hmm.. that's a really short usleep, though 23:12 < coob> yeah when you have 1000s of smallr eads/seeks the 2 usleeps combined choke up... 23:12 < normalperson> oh, but it could be waiting on the 10000 one in filebuf_task 23:12 < coob> yeah 23:12 < coob> 100s* 23:12 -!- dsh-1 [~daishi@pool-162-84-226-163.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:13 < normalperson> coob: feel free to tune and modify it 23:13 < coob> yep 23:13 < normalperson> bbiab 23:14 < normalperson> I'd rather work on mpd 0.12.0 stuff for now 23:14 < normalperson> way too long w/o a release 23:14 < jedix> I think I'll try this on my mini 23:14 < coob> whats new in 0.12.0? 23:15 < joshk> WOOOOO 23:15 < joshk> it works perfectly 23:15 < aegray> nice 23:16 < leachbj> and you were expecting what exactly :X 23:16 < coob> haha 23:17 -!- Luke__ is now known as Luke 23:17 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 23:17 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:17 < joshk> leachbj: an explosion 23:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 23:22 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-83-249-252.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:22 < jedix> hrm, odd 23:22 < jedix> why are you suggesting to use the -j option on mke2fs? 23:23 < jedix> ext3 will suck the power out of a device 23:24 < coob> there's very little read from the firmware paritione xcept from on bootup... 23:24 < coob> firmware/linux 23:25 < Izz^> I updated my iPod with the new update (to go with iTunes 4.9). I presume I'll have to extract a new apple_os.bin now, for when I want to put nightly builds on my iPod? 23:28 < Luke> coob: you here? 23:29 < coob> yep 23:29 < Luke> yea you tried posting some comments with a link a while ago to the blog 23:29 -!- Hazy-away [hazy@ACC9964F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:29 < Luke> but if there is a link it holds them for moderation 23:29 < Luke> which one do you want me to push tho 23:29 < coob> Izz^: yeah, it worked ok for me. 23:29 < Hazy-away> gonna sound like a stupid question but what do i hold to make linux boot instead of apple OS 23:30 < Izz^> You don't hold anything.. 23:30 < Hazy-away> how i do it? 23:30 < corpix> Hazy-away: press "rew" when it boots 23:30 < Hazy-away> ahh kk 23:30 < Izz^> Do it when you first see Tux. 23:31 < Hazy-away> so is tux supposed to come on b4 the apple? 23:31 < joshk> no 23:31 < Izz^> No.. wait until you see Tux.. 23:31 < Izz^> ...then press :) 23:31 < Hazy-away> but wen i boot the apple comes on not tux 23:31 < Hazy-away> bad install? 23:31 < coob> Izz^: i just spent a little time writing about the update process if you're at all interested, it's on the wiki 23:31 < coob> ahhh there's a moderation queue? 23:31 < coob> i dunno, one of the smaller last ones i guess 23:31 < coob> is there no way for those who can post to avoid the queue? 23:31 < Izz^> If you see lots of scrolly text for a couple of seconds follow by a totally blank screen - congratulations, you booted iPL. LOL 23:31 * Izz^ jokes 23:32 < joshk> hrm 23:32 < corpix> hmm, how to gain access for this 2g mini patch to audio.c ? 23:32 < Izz^> coob, thanks - exploring now. 23:32 < joshk> wait, according to project status the battery meter is even wrong? 23:32 < aegray> i'll send it corpix 23:32 < aegray> just give me an email address 23:32 < joshk> corpix: i have a kernel binary if you want t ouse that instead 23:32 < joshk> http://squishy.cc/~joshk/kernel.bin 23:32 < jedix> with the nightly build, I didn't get any modules.. 23:32 < aegray> battery meter doesn't work 23:32 * leachbj renames aegray to sendmail 23:32 < joshk> aegray: so it always displays full no matter what? 23:32 < aegray> haha 23:32 < aegray> yes joshk 23:32 < aegray> no power management 23:32 < joshk> ok 23:32 < corpix> joshk: i thought audio.c is in podzilla, not in the kernel ? 23:33 < corpix> no ? 23:33 < joshk> corpix: kenrel 23:33 < corpix> k 23:33 < aegray> no theres one in the kernel 23:33 < aegray> theres also one in podzilla 23:33 < ipwnn00bs> ipods still charge through usb with podzilla right? 23:33 < Izz^> There's no power management in iPodLinux 23:34 < corpix> except hdparm 23:34 < joshk> hrm 23:34 < joshk> i think i fucked up the contrast 23:34 < aegray> nice work 23:34 < Izz^> Hold menu for five seconds! 23:34 < Izz^> I built in a contrast restore just now! 23:34 * Izz^ lies 23:35 < Luke> coob: no unfortunately everyones comments are queued 23:36 < Luke> i just approved all of em 23:36 < Luke> people can firgure it out 23:36 < jedix> haha, so there are a few fucked timestamps in the ipod_fs 23:37 < Izz^> That's intriguing - my iPod mounts as /dev/disk2 now 23:37 < Izz^> But there's no /dev/disk1 23:38 < normalperson> coob: shout cast streaming, more cool stuff 23:38 < Luke> hey normalperson, havent seen you in a while =) 23:38 < normalperson> my uclinux branch has a lot of the cool stuff from 0.12.0 already 23:38 < normalperson> Luke: busy and burned out from wrok 23:38 < Luke> same same 23:39 < Izz^> Why is "yorgle" never here? 23:39 < normalperson> coob: I'll probably rebranch uclinux off 0.12.0 soon 23:39 < normalperson> Izz^: BleuLlama == yorgle, iirc 23:39 < Luke> yorgle is BleuLlama or someone 23:39 -!- Hazy-away [hazy@ACC9964F.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:40 < coob> ok 23:40 < coob> i don't think shout cast streaming is too essential for the ipod :) 23:40 < normalperson> coob: I know, but I have some other plans for it :) 23:42 < joshk> leachbj: hrm, but the ADC test in the diag is pretty straightforward... 23:42 < joshk> or is it? 23:43 < aegray> not quite 23:43 < joshk> 0x00003c50 23:43 < aegray> its simple but when i try the code for some reason it returns some rediculous number 23:43 < aegray> i'll get it at some point 23:44 < joshk> probably some initializatoin routine you're missing 23:44 < aegray> yea 23:46 < Izz^> I just had a "whoops, I've buggered my iPod" moment. 23:46 < Izz^> But fortunately I just had the hold switch on. 23:46 * Izz^ blushes 23:46 < Izz^> (It's too late...should sleep really.) 23:47 < corpix> it what *.c file is the function that allows to load ipodlinux pressing "|<<" ? 23:47 < coob> tools.c 23:47 < corpix> thx 23:48 < jedix> hrm 23:49 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:51 < Izz^> Cool, new nightly and new apple firmware working together fine. 23:51 * Izz^ wonders what the heck Hunt The Wumpus is 23:51 < Izz^> Hmm.. .I "died in a pit". Still none-the-wiser. 23:52 < coob> search the wiki for wumpus 23:52 < Izz^> Good idea! 23:52 < jedix> how big is the apple firmware? 23:52 < coob> depends 23:52 < coob> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root admin 465K Feb 19 21:38 Firmware-128.1.1 23:52 < coob> shuffle 23:52 < jedix> I get a 3mb file 23:52 < coob> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root admin 6M Jun 25 04:45 Firmware-5.4.2 23:52 < coob> photo 23:53 < coob> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root admin 4M Feb 17 03:10 Firmware-2.2.3 23:53 < coob> mini 23:53 < jedix> my mini gets a 3mb file 23:53 < aegray> good job 23:53 < coob> yeah because 1meg of that image is for the flsh rom 23:53 < coob> not the hd 23:53 < jedix> the setup for my mini didn't work though 23:53 < Izz^> Wow...the shuffle firmware is almost half a meg!? 23:53 < jedix> I'm dd'ing back the backup now 23:54 < courtc> works for me. :) 23:54 < jedix> I wonder what I did wrong 23:54 < coob> Izz^: half a meg isn't bad for an mp3, aac, alac and wav codec, operating system, db reader etc 23:55 < jedix> I'll try again after this works again.. 23:55 < jedix> okay, heart back in my chest. 23:55 < Izz^> I guess so. 23:55 < jedix> mp3 is usually hardware now though 23:55 < Izz^> But I thought maybe the main chip could do some decoding? 23:56 < aegray> no its all software 23:56 < Izz^> Cool. 23:57 < Izz^> I used to do sys admin for a mobile phone mast company. I found out that most phones (e.g. older Nokia ones) just have a single DSP and use it for everything, including driving the display and running the OS. 23:57 < Izz^> Which is why they're so damn slow at everything menial, like sorting contacts. 23:59 < jedix> coob: did you use the unofficial install guide? 23:59 < coob> ? 23:59 < jedix> for your mini 23:59 < aegray> haha 23:59 < coob> i have a mini?!?! 23:59 < aegray> so much wrong with that 00:00 < coob> i think you want the other co in here? --- Log closed Wed Jun 29 00:00:00 2005