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00:03 < kevpatts> got the video working, gonna go to bed now, I see the problem with the colourspace though, a little annoying.
00:04 < dreamkeep> Good night
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00:10 < coob> normalperson: 
00:10 < coob>     for(n = 0; n< count; n++) {
00:10 < coob>         ptr[n] = swap32(ptr[n]);
00:10 < coob>     }
00:11 < coob> stuff like that can be optimised using a decremental counter right?
00:12 < normalperson> coob: yes, and not just that, loop unrolled, and at the very least, removing the index overhead
00:13 < coob> :D
00:13 < normalperson> google for duff's device :)
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00:15 < normalperson> compiler probably does some loop unrolling already, but gcc can't seem to reduce index calculation very well :/
00:17 < normalperson> and swap32() ought to be a macro, if not already inlined
00:17 < coob> hm, gcc can't do duffs device can it (just read up on it, sneaky :))
00:17 < normalperson> no :)
00:17 < normalperson> only sick minds can do it
00:18 < Daishi> hrm now i need to find something where i can go through a avi file find the first frame and the last frame i want from it and have it output to a new avi file
00:18 < Daishi> i guess live would work anyone use anything else?
00:18 < coob> mencoder can do it
00:19 < Daishi> well live would work but it tends to be slow
00:19 < coob> man mencoder
00:19 < Daishi> i know it can but not visually and i feel like being lazy
00:19 < coob> bum
00:20 < Daishi> heh
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00:20 < coob> swap32 is inlined yeah
00:23 < aegray> joshk here?
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00:24 < joshk> yah
00:24 < joshk> just got back an hour or so ago
00:24 < aegray> whered you figure out that the 2g is failing?
00:26 < Daishi> ahh avidemux2http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
00:26 < joshk> while (ticks == jiffies) /* do nothing */ in init/main.c:calibrate_delay()
00:26 < joshk> leachbj was working with me to figure out what was and wasn't happening in the boot procedure.. we didn't get too far
00:26 < coob> normalperson: rockbox people been doing some evil things to it too:
00:26 < coob> http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/codecs/libmusepack/synth_filter.c?r1=1.2&r2=1.3
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00:27 < aegray> but display code for sure doesn't work either because boot image isn't showing up
00:28 < normalperson> coob: nice
00:30 < joshk> aegray: correctamundo
00:31 < aegray> you happen to know where the timer interrupt routine is in the kernel code?
00:31 < joshk> nope
00:32 < macpod> anyboidy here with os x 10.2.8?
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00:32 < coob> dear god no :/
00:32 < coob> aegray: hardware.c i think?
00:33 < compotatoj> I had 10.2.8
00:33 < compotatoj> not now tho
00:33 < macpod> then you are of no asstance
00:34 < coob> aegray: pcf50605.c has the rtc code
00:34 < coob> or are you talking in general?
00:35 < coob> ipod_timer_interrupt is in time.c
00:35 < coob> and calls do_timer
00:37 < aegray> ok
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00:38 < NeuTRiNo> boom
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00:41 < Z_Man> i got OS X 10.4.1 on my iMac G5!
00:41 < Z_Man> yay
00:44 < aegray> is ipod_timer_interrupt called because of an interrupt by rtc or by something else?
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00:44 < coob> unsure
00:45 < Wengero> anyone know why the left ear phone is a mic?
00:48 < aegray> joshk its not even getting there
00:48 < joshk> yeah it is
00:48 < joshk> i'm positive of it
00:48 < aegray> ok
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00:54 < josh_> Wengero: because if you wear a pair of headphones like a phone headset, the mouthpiece is the left one? I don't know... :P
00:59 < aegray> ok this is just weird - if i set the bl_on right before the calibrate_delay call, it turns on.  If i make it the first line in the calibrate delay function, it doesn't turn on
01:00 < joshk> aegray: wait
01:00 < joshk> so now you have a 2g mini, too?
01:00 < aegray> yea
01:00 < aegray> just got it tonight
01:00 < joshk> wow
01:00 < joshk> you laid down the $240?
01:00 < joshk> or is it a loaner / trade heh
01:00 < aegray> i can sell it back
01:00 < Z_Man> i have a 2g mini
01:00 < aegray> or on ebay if i want
01:00 < Vanquisher> aegray, so u have 2 ipods now?
01:00 < aegray> so i figure i'll play with it till its figured out
01:00 < aegray> i have 3 now
01:00 < Vanquisher> :|
01:01 < Vanquisher> which kinds
01:01 < Vanquisher> i have 2
01:01 < aegray> 4g photo and 2g mini
01:01 < Vanquisher> ha, i got a 4g photo, and a 2g 20gig
01:01 < Vanquisher> 40 gig phot
01:01 < Vanquisher> o
01:02 < aegray> joshk - if you put the bl on right before the line ticks=jiffies does it turn on?
01:02 < joshk> bl?
01:02 < joshk> backlight
01:02 < joshk> hrm
01:02 < joshk> yes
01:02 < joshk> it does
01:02 < joshk> that's the loop that kills it
01:02 < joshk> it never gets out of it
01:02 < joshk> because jiffies is not increasing
01:02 < aegray> mine isn't turning on if i put it in calibrate_delay
01:02 < joshk> that's the point of the loop
01:03 < aegray> anywhere
01:04 < coob> are you two using the same code? :)
01:04 < josh_> lol
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01:04 < aegray> i thought so
01:04 < NeuTRiNo> perhaps can you make a printf to the screen before the loop? or you dont know the irq to connect to the screen?
01:04 < josh_> NeuTRiNo: the LCD doesn't work yet on mini2g
01:05 < aegray> theres no irq to connect to the screen
01:06 < aegray> this is just weird
01:06 < aegray> its calling calibrate_delay but not executing anything inside it
01:06 < aegray> or not getting there
01:08 < coob> whats just before it?
01:09 < aegray> it goes right now set_bl(); calibrate_delay();
01:09 < aegray> if i take out set_bl
01:09 < joshk> no dude
01:09 < joshk> it hangs INSIDE calibrate_delay
01:09 < joshk> oh
01:09 < joshk> i see
01:09 < aegray> hold on
01:09 < aegray> lemme finish
01:09 < aegray> if i take set_bl and put it in calibrate_delay as the first line
01:09 < aegray> it doesn't lite up
01:10 < joshk> put it before the loop
01:10 < aegray> it is
01:10 < joshk> line 186
01:10 < aegray> first thing in calibrate_delay
01:10 < coob> yeah that's weird 
01:10 < aegray> hmm
01:10 < joshk> well, it worked for me
01:14 < coob> aegray, very first line
01:14 < coob> ?
01:16 < Daishi> i hear that soon steve jobs is going to have all ipods turn on and play a tone to put everyone into a hypnotic trance under his control
01:16 < Daishi> could work too considering everyone seems to own one now even presidents and such
01:17 < Wengero> but not bill gates...
01:17 < coob> bill gates owns a nomad
01:17 < coob> he sucks.
01:17 < aegray> well except for defs
01:17 < Wengero> whats the point of controlling the world when you dont even get gates?
01:17 < Wengero> pointless...
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01:18 < aegray> very first line except defs
01:18 < Daishi> Wengero: gates wont matter when he takes over the world
01:19 < Daishi> anyways the mars volta are absolutely great and i wish i took more spanish classes
01:19 < Wengero> execpt microsoft owning a chunk of apple stock... apple controllers the world while microsoft controls part of apple
01:19 < coob> microsoft owns non controlling stock 
01:19 < coob> you lose.
01:20 < josh_> when the iPod "keyboard" is set in RAW mode, what sort of scancodes does it make?
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01:20 < Daishi> dont you know anything about being an evil overlord?
01:21 < josh_> are they like PC keyboard scancodes for the letters (r, l, m, f, d, w), or ASCII, or special iPod scancodes?
01:21 < Wengero> do you get sushi?
01:21 < Daishi> any systems (democracy, capitalism, governments) setup wont matter
01:21 < aegray> josh_ look in the keyboard.c in the kernel
01:21 < aegray> i would guess its in there
01:22 < josh_> ok
01:22 < Daishi> its just a series of dancing silhouttes
01:23 < Daishi> theres a few hard coded into keyboard.c using some sort of xpm-like format
01:23 < josh_> looks like it's standard PC keysyms
01:31 < Daishi> since ipl uses 100% cpu anyways is the backlight going to drain the battery any faster?
01:32 < josh_> of course!
01:32 < josh_> :P
01:33 < coob> yes because the backlight is powered by the cpu
01:33 < coob> and magic
01:33  * jonrelay gets all confused and amused
01:35 < aegray> remember the battery is only there to hold it down because without that extra weight it would float away
01:35 < coob> haha
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01:36 < Daishi> well do i need it anymore since i got a cover?
01:36 < Daishi> anyone want an ipod battery?
01:37 < Daishi> and to think before my ipod i had a neuros II horrible hardware
01:37 < coob> ew
01:37 < coob> ti dsp isn't it?
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01:39 < Daishi> yea they call it an audio computer to justify its large size and its only a dsp
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01:44 < Daishi> i had gone through three of them too in a week or two
01:46 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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02:12 < joecool> is it a known problem that the contrast segfaults?
02:17 < joecool> coob, courtc: ?
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02:20 < coob> ?
02:20 < coob> rm podzilla.conf
02:23 < joecool> hmm.. i was messing with it.. i'll try that again
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02:26 < joecool> coob: yep, that worked
02:28 < Capso> hEY.
02:28 < aegray> hEY.
02:28 < Capso> Sorry.
02:28 < Capso> s/hEY/Hey
02:29 < Capso> Didn't know caps was on.s
02:29 < Capso> s/.s/.
02:29 < Capso> Aegray: How'd it go, by the way? What did Joshk say about it?
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02:29 < aegray> workin now on it
02:29 < MilesD> any idea why an installation and an update would fail
02:29 < MilesD> it worked last time i tried to install
02:30 < Capso> Aegray: Nice.
02:30 < Capso> Aegray: Mind PM?
02:30 < aegray> ok
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02:30 < Capso> Aegray: Thanks.
02:30 < MilesD> could anyone offer any ideas?
02:33 < MilesD> yay!
02:33 < NeuTRiNo> MilesD: while (it==dontworks) do it again until it==works
02:33 < MilesD> what?
02:33 < Capso> Heh.
02:33 < MilesD> i dont speak youre language
02:33 < coob> that's one fucked up double deifinition :)
02:34 < MilesD> could we try it without making fun of me?
02:34 < NeuTRiNo> yes.. mixing pascal and c :D
02:34 < MilesD> i know this is where the brusque of your entertainment must come from
02:34 < coob> NeuTRiNo: that wouldn't even enter the while loop
02:34 < coob> um
02:34 < coob> ignore me
02:34 < coob> no coffee :/
02:35 < NeuTRiNo> ;)
02:35 < MilesD> coob would you be able to help me?
02:35 < NeuTRiNo> coke
02:35 < coob> i don't use installers
02:35 < MilesD> ok i tried doing manual
02:35 < Capso> Yay for Coob.
02:35 < Capso> I'll ya for myself when it starts working on iPod Mini 2G.
02:36 < MilesD> and on the first step (identifying the volume in terminal) the #mount cmd does nothing
02:36 < macpod> what insatller are you using? os x or windows/
02:36 < MilesD> os x
02:36 < macpod> and what's the prob with it?
02:36 < MilesD> it worked before, i uninstalled it, and would like to reinstall it
02:36 < MilesD> it doesnt work
02:36 < MilesD> lemme get the error message
02:36 < macpod> if you could state what version of the installer you are using that would be great too
02:37 < MilesD> 0.3c
02:37 < MilesD> 30gig 3g
02:37 < MilesD> first an error occurs while checking for updates
02:37 < macpod> what is the error?
02:38 < MilesD> an error occured while installing linus: could not extract os portion of firmware; an error occured while checking for updates:
02:38 < MilesD> those are my two errors
02:38 < MilesD> then i hit reinstall and it says an error occured while patching the firmware
02:38 < macpod> what is the error text after the : checking for updates error
02:39 < MilesD> nothing
02:39 < MilesD> there is none
02:39 < macpod> Go ahead and delete that installer
02:39 < macpod> and download it again.
02:39 < MilesD> ok and the dmg
02:39 < MilesD> i did that like twice
02:39 < macpod> yes
02:39 < MilesD> but aight
02:40 < macpod> ok, do you have anything on your iPod that is valuable? The easiest solution to this is to simply restore your iPod
02:40 < MilesD> the apple os still works
02:40 < macpod> It sounds like you did a manual install of iPod-Linux
02:41 < MilesD> never did, sorry
02:41 < MilesD> im too much of an idiot to accomplish something like that
02:41 < macpod> Hmm, well sounds like something became corrupted at any point
02:41 < macpod> Go ahead and back up your files and do that restore
02:41 < MilesD> i redownloaded the installer
02:41 < MilesD> meaning wipe my ipod
02:42 < MilesD> of its music
02:42 < macpod> yes, it is the easiest way
02:42 < macpod> and files
02:42 < MilesD> is there a hard way
02:42 < MilesD> in which i get to keep my music
02:42 < macpod> You should have your music on your computer unless you pirated it ;P
02:42 < MilesD> actually i pay for all of my music, as a musician i value it
02:43 < MilesD> but all ethical issues aside
02:43 < MilesD> is there a hard way in which i can keep my music
02:43 < macpod> yes
02:43 < aegray> if peeing your pants is cool then i'm MilesD
02:43 < macpod> you will need to use the terminal
02:43 < aegray> (davis)
02:43 < MilesD> im down for that
02:44 < MilesD> im actually not bad with computers, im just new to mac so you'll have to excuse any stupid questions
02:44 < macpod> ok, well you will need to do this
02:44 < macpod> cd to your iPod and then go to the folder iPod_Control
02:45 < MilesD> cd?
02:45 < macpod> open a terminal
02:45 < MilesD> ok
02:45 < macpod> type
02:45 < macpod> wait
02:45 < MilesD> mount?
02:45 < macpod> rename your iPod spiffy
02:46 < macpod> and make sure you can see it on the desktop
02:46 < MilesD> any particular reason?
02:46 < MilesD> its in disk mode already
02:46 < macpod> ok
02:46 < macpod> rename it spiffy
02:46 < MilesD> dpme
02:46 < MilesD> done
02:46 < macpod> alright in yoru terminal type cd /Volumes/spiffy/iPod_Control
02:47 < macpod> and hit enter
02:47 < MilesD> with the cd?
02:47 < coob> yes
02:47 < MilesD> ok
02:47 < macpod> from now on when I give you a command type in the line what is between the ""'s
02:48 < MilesD> aight
02:48 < macpod> now type "rm -r Linux"
02:48 < MilesD> k
02:49 < macpod> "open ./Device/SysInfo"
02:49 < MilesD> k
02:49 < macpod> see this line-> buildID: 0x02308000 (2.3)
02:49 < macpod> in the file that just opened?
02:49 < MilesD> yup
02:50 < macpod> change it to buildID: 0x02208000 (2.2)
02:50 < macpod> save, and close the file
02:50 < MilesD> done
02:51 < macpod> "cd .."
02:51 < MilesD> k
02:52 < macpod> close the terminal and delete these directories
02:53 < macpod> proc, sbin, tmp, usr, var, ets
02:53 < macpod> *etc
02:53 < MilesD> delete them from where
02:53 < macpod> from your iPod
02:53 < macpod> double click yoru iPod on the desktop
02:53 < macpod> they shoudl be in there
02:53 < MilesD> all i have is Calendars, Contacts, Notes
02:53 < macpod> ok
02:54 < macpod> go ahead and open the ipod software utility
02:54 < macpod>  /Applications/Utilties/iPod Software Updater/
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02:55 < macpod> do a update
02:55 < macpod> setting the number back will trick it into reinstalling the firmware
02:55 < MilesD> i dont see that can i do it from the apple site?
02:56 < macpod> you will have to download the newest version of the installer
02:56 < macpod> running update software should help
02:56 < macpod> speaking of that.. what os are you runnign?
02:56 < MilesD> im saying i dont have the update software
02:56 < MilesD> 10.3
02:56 < macpod> version that is?
02:56 < MilesD> .9
02:56 < MilesD> 10.3.9
02:56 < macpod> go ahead and do software update from the apple menu
02:56 < macpod> you can download it this way
02:57 < MilesD> its not under software update
02:58 < macpod> then it must be on your computer unless you deleted it
02:58 < macpod> check again
02:58 < macpod> iPod Updater 2005-03-23
02:58 < MilesD> i know man, im not an idiot, its not there
02:58 < macpod> then you will need to download it from apple.com
02:58 < coob> http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/
02:58 < MilesD> thats what im doin
02:58 < MilesD> its goin
02:59 < MilesD> just a moment
03:01 < MilesD> ok i ran that
03:01 < macpod> ran the update?
03:01 < MilesD> yup
03:02 < macpod> Alright, go into your system preferences now
03:02 < macpod> then go to the sharing panel
03:02 < MilesD> ok
03:03 < macpod> click firewall
03:03 < macpod> and turn it off if it is on
03:03 < MilesD> its off
03:04 < macpod> Alright, I'm not sure what is wrong with your connection
03:04 < MilesD> should i try the installer (for linux) again?
03:04 < macpod> no
03:04 < macpod> that is probably what gave you troubles in the first place
03:04 < MilesD> alright
03:04 < MilesD> what should i do then?
03:04 < aegray> unplug your computer
03:05 < macpod> So yea, go ahead and open the installer again and try installing
03:05 < macpod> if you are not running as an admin user, try that too
03:05 < MilesD> ok im gonna run the installer again
03:05 < MilesD> should i check for updates?
03:05 < macpod> you can try
03:06 < MilesD> error
03:06 < macpod> what about the install itself?
03:06 < MilesD> failed again
03:06 < MilesD> what the hell
03:06 < MilesD> i had it installed before
03:06 < aegray> whats the fail message?
03:06 < MilesD> but uninstalled it
03:06 < MilesD> could not extract os portion of firmware
03:07 < macpod> Yep, I bet a restore of your iPod will do the trick
03:07 < MilesD> gah
03:07 < MilesD> random question, how recording with a mic sound on this?
03:07 < macpod> Using the linux installer probably caused you the troubles
03:07 < macpod> http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/faqs.html
03:08 < macpod> read that for recording info
03:09 < MilesD> shit that sounds good
03:10 < MilesD> alright
03:10 < MilesD> im gonna try a wipe
03:10 < MilesD> thanks for all the help
03:10 < MilesD> im sure i'll be back
03:11 < MilesD> woah possible problem
03:11 < MilesD> it says zero kb avaliable
03:11 < MilesD> but earlier it was like 150
03:11 < MilesD> mb
03:11 < macpod> yea, that's your problem
03:11 < macpod> you need 50 mb free as stated in the specs
03:12 < MilesD> ok lets try again
03:12 < MilesD> i had 180 earlier and i havent added any music so im not sure how that happened
03:12 < MilesD> still didnt work
03:12 < macpod> how much space do you have?
03:13 < MilesD> 60.6mb
03:13 < macpod> Yea, jsut do a restore
03:13 < MilesD> eh oh well
03:13 < MilesD> hmm
03:13 < MilesD> wait a second
03:13 < MilesD> it worked!
03:14 < macpod> Let me guess.. you emptied the trash? :P
03:14 < MilesD> it still wont update but the installation worked
03:14 < MilesD> nope
03:14 < MilesD> i just hit reinstall
03:14 < macpod> the update feature is an internet problem
03:14 < macpod> you are probably behind a router/firewall/other computer/network that blocks ports
03:14 < macpod> the possibilies are endless
03:14 < MilesD> well im talkin on this, adium, and browsing
03:15 < MilesD> same problem as last time, screen is blank
03:15 < MilesD> that i thkn is on the forums though
03:15 < macpod> that is in the help section
03:15 < macpod> http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/help.html
03:16 < macpod> you need to adjust your contrast
03:16 < aegray> rm /etc/podzilla.conf
03:16 < macpod> no
03:16 < macpod> unless podzilla autoadjust that setting if the config file is not there that will not do anything
03:17 < macpod> I used a default config file that podzilla made
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03:18 < MilesD> awesome
03:18 < MilesD> i fixed it, but the bar is almost all the way to the right just to be seen, is that alright?
03:18 < macpod> yes
03:19 < macpod> althought imo the contrast settings changed recently with podzilla
03:19 < macpod> it did not used to be so fennecy
03:19 < aegray> spelling!
03:19 < MilesD> ipod just crashed
03:19 < MilesD> actually went back to old contrast
03:19 < macpod> yes, you need to save your settings 
03:20 < MilesD> yea i just realized that
03:21 < MilesD> alright, thanks for all the help
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03:51 < davidc__> aegray: you around?
03:51 < aegray> hey
03:51 < aegray> whats up?
03:51 < davidc__> just thinking about that audio stuff
03:52 < aegray> i started to write a little then figured you'd probably be able to do it better than me
03:52 < aegray> (i was just gonna try it out with video)
03:52 < davidc__> unfortunatly I still don't have acces to my dev box
03:52 < davidc__> will tomorrow
03:52 < aegray> damn
03:52 < davidc__> my bro is just finishing a big edit for tomorrow
03:53 < aegray> hes got your dev box?
03:53 < davidc__> its just the dp800
03:53 < davidc__> *a
03:54 < courtc> jonrelay, ping
03:54 < davidc__> nothing special
03:54 < davidc__> but its the box he uses for editing right now
03:54 < davidc__> b/c he doesn't have access to the G5 at school
03:54 < aegray> so you get stuck while hes using it
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03:54 < davidc__> eh, we take turns
03:54 < davidc__> but he has a big project due tomorrow or something
03:55 < aegray> yea so its his
03:55 < aegray> telnet in!
03:55 < davidc__> heh.
03:55 < davidc__> my 1g needs physical interaction unfortunately
03:55 < aegray> you do much RE?
03:55 < davidc__> a bit
03:55 < aegray> i have a display loop for the 2g mini
03:56 < aegray> but the init routine kills me
03:56 < aegray> do you know anything about lcd initialization?
03:56 < davidc__> a tiny bit
03:56 < davidc__> so basically the init routine crashes?
03:57 < aegray> i don't even know
03:57 < aegray> i'm just looking at the diag section for 2g mini
03:57 < aegray> and comparing to ipod photo
03:57 < aegray> it seems like bern took random snippets to init the lcd
03:57 < aegray> and i have no idea which ones are necessary
03:57 < aegray> any clue how to figure this out?
03:58 < davidc__> just try em :)
03:58 < davidc__> tis the only way :P
03:58 < aegray> hehe ok
03:58 < aegray> damn
04:02 < joshk> aegray: pong
04:02 < joshk> what's up?
04:02 < aegray> hehe
04:02 < aegray> i have a display loop worked out
04:03 < aegray> don't quote me cuz i hate when somebody says something to bern and then i feel like an idiot
04:03 < joshk> so it works?
04:03 < aegray> but in this loop, displaying is different
04:03 < aegray> no - i'm working out the lcd init code
04:03 < joshk> ah
04:03 < joshk> you're bruteforceing it?
04:03 < aegray> reversing the diag code
04:03 < joshk> mkay
04:03 < aegray> i have it down to like 2 functions for init but i have a lot to try
04:03 < joshk> well, you're the man
04:05 < aegray> i'm a girl though
04:05 < aegray> so thats kind of an insult
04:05 < davidc__> aegray: you're also full of shit :P
04:05 < aegray> haha
04:05 < aegray> i know
04:05 < davidc__> "Adam" is such a female name :P
04:06 < aegray> kinda is - whered you get that?
04:06 < aegray> not fair
04:06 < joshk> uhhh
04:06 < davidc__>  /whois
04:06 < joshk> dude
04:06 < joshk> yeah :)
04:06 < aegray> oh shit
04:06 < aegray> good call
04:06 < birostick> haha
04:06 < birostick> who puts their name in the whois
04:06 < joshk> me, because i'm not afraid to reveal who i am
04:06 < joecool> thats cause you're a debian dev
04:07 < aegray> i don't control whats in my whois - that was automatic - i'm sure i could change it
04:07 < aegray> but who cares
04:07 < joecool> Van's real name in his whois was my doing :)
04:07 < joecool> he just left it
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04:09 < davidc__> Van?
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04:09 < joecool> davidc__: he's in the channel
04:09 < davidc__> Vanquisher?
04:09 < joecool> yes
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04:10 < davidc__> unless his name is cornholio, I doubt its accurate
04:10 < joecool> of course it isn't lol
04:10 < joecool> i was just pretty wasted and when i put xchat on there i typed it in for the hell of it
04:12  * jonrelay notices he got a ping a long time ago when he wasn't paying attention
04:13 < courtc> just looking at that 3000 line patch
04:13 < jonrelay> wild isn't it? :D
04:13 < aegray> voice recognition!
04:13 < courtc> aegray, haha
04:13 < aegray> oh wait theres a //
04:13 < courtc> :p
04:13 < Vanquisher> davidc__, ?
04:14 < jonrelay> Voice recognition was mentioned on the forum, so I included it on the list. Probably wouldn't ever work though. :P
04:15 < courtc> I get a segfault. Settings -> Text Input -> Scroll Through, Run...
04:15 < aegray> we just thought it was funny
04:15 < joecool> Vanquisher: he was just singleing you out to be the next person he kills
04:15 < Vanquisher> oh
04:15 < Vanquisher> thats fine
04:16 < jonrelay> Segfault, eh? :/
04:17 < Vanquisher> my life is a segfault
04:18 < jonrelay> So
04:18 < jonrelay> So's mine.
04:18 < joecool> thats cause i fucked up when i installed linux on your brain
04:18 < Vanquisher> error
04:18 < courtc> My life is a sighup
04:18 < jonrelay> Tricky return key.
04:18 < joecool> Vanquisher: you're running like 2.2.12 at the moment
04:18 < Vanquisher> joecool, haha
04:18 < Vanquisher> joecool, need a sync
04:20 < joecool> Vanquisher: man.. i'm lazy
04:20 < jonrelay> How come the number tones are shorter than the ABCD tones?
04:20 < joecool> i havn't made a release in forever.. its all been bzcat
04:20 < joecool> rofl
04:20 < joshk> i have a segfault everyday
04:20 < joshk> i leave a coredump in the john
04:20 < Vanquisher> joecool, whys that
04:20 < joecool> cause i'm lazy
04:20 < joecool> thats why
04:20 < Vanquisher> joecool, fool
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04:21 < joecool> well i'll update the mirror at least rofl
04:22 < joecool> then apologize to bzcat and tell him i suck at life
04:22 < joecool> unless... he fucked up the latest release
04:22 < joecool> then i can fix it and give him hell
04:23 < coob> jonrelay: you'd have to ask CITT that
04:24 < joecool> what are the ABCD tones for anyways? redboxing?
04:24 < aegray> blueboxing i think
04:24 < jonrelay> greyboxing, actually
04:24 < aegray> oh there we aree
04:24 < joecool> lol
04:24 < jonrelay> blueboxing is using 2600 Hz
04:24  * aegray dumb
04:24 < jonrelay> (I just researched all of this an hour ago)
04:25 < coob> read dialer.c
04:26 < aegray> bic r0, r1, 0 puts r1 in r0 right?
04:26 < aegray> r0 = (r1 & ~0) : r0 = r1 
04:26 < aegray> right?
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04:31 < joecool> btw.. i've been able to fool phones a couple times by whistling.. i'm not good enough though to be able to connect the numbers i want
04:31 < joecool> but i can fuck it up enough and get stuff like busy signals
04:31 < Vanquisher> lol
04:33 < joecool> i just recalled that.. because there was a blind dude who started the whole phreaking movement
04:33 < joecool> he could recall the tones and whistle them to connect free calls
04:33 < Capso> Nice.
04:34 < jonrelay> #ifdef SNOWING_IN_HELL   haha :D
04:36 < joecool> jonrelay: can't be grayboxing though.. thats a physical form of phreaking (aka, walking outside and hooking your phone up to the telephone pole)
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04:37 < joecool> ah, silver box
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04:37 < jonrelay> I guess they're similar but different. Silverboxing then.
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04:42 < joecool> hmm.. i just read up on it
04:43 < joecool> i doubt it'll work.. but maybe i'll test it tommorow 
04:43 < joecool> dial 1800-555-1212 and then hit D
04:43 < Vanquisher> lol
04:43 < joecool> if i get pulsing it works.. if i get a pissed off operator.. it doesn't :)
04:43 < Vanquisher> lol
04:44 < joecool> would be cool though if i did get it to work.. then i can talk on seperate lines hehehe
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04:45 < Vanquisher> lol
04:45 < psilocybin> yo
04:45 < psilocybin> aegrey
04:45  * Vanquisher :: The_Eagles_-_Hotel_California.mp3 [0m00s][128 kbit/s][44100 Hz]
04:45 < aegray> hi
04:47 < NeuTRiNo> psilocybin.. love mushrooms :D
04:49 < psilocybin> yes i do
04:49 < psilocybin> hey aegray hows devo been
04:49 < aegray> ok
04:49 < joecool> oh shit.. i fucked my line up
04:49 < aegray>  /sucky
04:49 < psilocybin> o
04:49 < joecool> oh no
04:49 < joecool> it works
04:50 < joecool> i just made a loop
04:50 < joecool> oh fuck
04:50 < joecool> how do i kill it
04:50 < joecool> i've never phreaked before.. the phone company is gonna arrest me
04:50 < joecool> DAMMIT
04:50 < psilocybin> i can send u a free pentium II pc with win 98 if that can help u any bit, aegray
04:50 < psilocybin> ya rite joecool
04:50 < joecool> ok.. its back
04:50 < joecool> thank god
04:50 < psilocybin> what were u phreking
04:50 < aegray> nah thats ok
04:50 < aegray> thanks though
04:51 < aegray> wow
04:51 < psilocybin> np
04:51 < joecool> i dialed B and it did something
04:51 < joecool> my line went like dead
04:51 < psilocybin> what kinda phreks u using
04:51 < psilocybin> like to do what
04:51 < psilocybin> free long distance?
04:51 < joecool> then i dialed 6.. and it made a clicking noise and dropped into a loop
04:51 < joecool> i think i might be able to
04:51 < Capso> Joecool: I tried that whistling thing... I don't think I'm doing it right. Heh.
04:51 < psilocybin> what are u trying to accomplish
04:51 < joecool> psilocybin: trying to see if that silver box does anything on my lines
04:51 < joecool> it apparently works
04:52 < joecool> i wish i knew howto use it though
04:52 < psilocybin> a sliverbox
04:52 < psilocybin> what can u do with that
04:52 < joecool> free calls i think
04:52 < psilocybin> o
04:53 < aegray> fun!
04:54 < aegray> who knows the opcode for nop in arm asm?
04:54 < joecool> sprint is really shitty is silver boxing works rofl
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05:01 < aegray> anyone know this???
05:03 < courtc> MOV R0, R0
05:04 < coob> MOV r0, r0.
05:04 < aegray> do you know the actual byte sequence or where i'd find it?
05:04 < coob> dammit
05:04 < coob> beat me
05:04 < coob> aegray: arm has no nop
05:04 < davidc__> jas
05:04 < davidc__> I'll get the exact sequence
05:04 < aegray> k
05:05 < aegray> like AF DC BA D1
05:05 < aegray> yea that was made up
05:05 < aegray> whoops
05:05 < aegray> nm ida has it
05:05 < aegray> 00 00 A0 E1
05:06 < davidc__> e1 A0 00 00
05:06 < davidc__> might be the other way around
05:06 < davidc__> depending on endian
05:06 < davidc__> wait. you already got it.
05:06 < davidc__> :P
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05:07 < aegray> hi evil
05:07 < EvilDude> hey, what's up
05:07 < davidc__> fyi aegray - the easiest way to do it is just to use arm-elf-as
05:08 < davidc__> with mov %r0, %r0
05:08 < courtc> arg.. jonrelay these compile error have to go.
05:08 < davidc__> then arm-elf-objdump -d
05:08 < aegray> k
05:09 < EvilDude> any luck with the audio?
05:09 < jonrelay> How do I make them go away? It's declared as unsigned long int, and it's complaining about it being so large it's unsigned. Makes no sense. :P
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05:14 < aegray> hey evildude
05:14 < aegray> no
05:14 < aegray> haven't been working on that
05:14 < EvilDude> ah, what have you been working on then
05:15 < aegray> might have something up the sleeve though
05:15 < aegray> tonight 2g mini
05:15 < courtc> jonrelay, umm.. just replace the text with the hex equiv
05:15 < EvilDude> ah cool
05:15 < aegray> bahaha davidc - i've been nop'ing out instructions but it was based off offsets in the 540 diag
05:16 < jonrelay> courtc: OK, will do. Should I send another patch?
05:17 < davidc__> aegray: er, what?
05:17 < davidc__> nop'ing which instructions?
05:17 < courtc> nah, just send me the changed files @ courtc@ipodlinux.org
05:17 < aegray> i'm noping instructions in what i think is lcd init code in the diag section then trying it out
05:17 < aegray> but i was using offsets from the ipod photo diag by accident
05:18 < davidc__> er. photo diag code?
05:18 < aegray> nm
05:18 < courtc> google has a good calc if you need one. http://www.google.com/search?q=3505446654+in+hex
05:18 < davidc__> you did copy it right?
05:19 < aegray> i have two diag sections open in ida
05:19 < aegray> i was reading the offsets to nop from the wrong open window
05:19 < aegray> doesn't matter
05:19 < davidc__> er, how were you nop'ing them?
05:19 < davidc__> hopefully not changing them in flash...
05:19 < aegray> hexediting diag bin
05:19 < aegray> no
05:19 < aegray> using bootloader to load my diag bin
05:19 < davidc__> ah
05:21 < aegray> does arm use relative addressing for a bl or absolute?
05:22 < davidc__> bl is relative
05:23 < aegray> b is absolute?
05:23 < davidc__> b is relative as well IIRC
05:23 < davidc__> look at the reference docs
05:23 < davidc__> there's a link somewhere in the wiki
05:23 < aegray> k
05:23 < davidc__> only difference betweem b + bl is that bl sets the lr to the pc
05:24 < birostick> i seiously am looking at you all talking... and its like i'm reading russian or someting :/
05:24 < aegray> scudlov di maten?
05:25 < davidc__> Yob tvoyu mat
05:25 < joecool> fryd e y nekt
05:25 < birostick> you all are killin me
05:25 < davidc__> ooh? a killin? where?
05:26 < birostick> :/
05:26 < birostick> so literal around here
05:26 < birostick> lol
05:26 < coob> Dos vidange
05:29  * jonrelay uses his Casio CFX-9850GB PLUS calculator to convert decimal to hex
05:29  * davidc__ uses his PDP11
05:29 < courtc> Google
05:35 < EvilDude> aegray: there's a video on the video_player page on wiki that works fine on 1.1 firmware?
05:37 < jonrelay> screw this
05:37  * jonrelay writes a program to convert a batch of decimal numbers to hex
05:37 < EvilDude> haha
05:38 < aegray> no
05:38 < aegray> theres a test video with switched colors
05:38 < aegray> i didn't really put any work into that
05:38 < aegray> bedtime
05:38 < EvilDude> no no i mean like you switched so it works right?
05:38 < EvilDude> ah damn
05:38 < aegray> i have code to do it though :)
05:38 < davidc__> you can do it with cat + dc
05:38 < aegray> i think
05:40 < EvilDude> so we know how the colors are changed on photo :S ?
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05:53 < birostick> you mean in 1.1... 1.0 -> 1.1
05:54 < EvilDude> Yeah I meant on the 1.1 firmware
05:54 < birostick> :-)
05:55 < birostick> hmm
05:55 < birostick> *thinks about installing linux again on the ipod
05:56  * davidc__ has installe it like a billion times
05:56 < EvilDude> haha
05:56 < birostick> i did
05:56 < birostick> liek.. for whatever reason... i couldn't get the thing to work the first few times
05:57 < birostick> couldn't install it right or whatever
05:57 < birostick> then it installed fine and i was like.. wow
05:57 < birostick> this is nifty
05:57 < birostick> amazing work
05:57 < EvilDude> haha first time i installed it podzilla didnt do much
05:57 < EvilDude> or anything rather =\
05:57 < birostick> lol
05:57 < EvilDude> It had a settings menu
05:57 < EvilDude> had menus basically
05:57 < birostick> sweet :-P
05:57 < birostick> ohh
05:58 < birostick> another q
05:58 < EvilDude> the wheel debouce + button debounce worked
05:58 < birostick> is the uhh
05:58 < birostick> contrast for 1.1 fixed?
05:58 < EvilDude> thats about all though haha  twas good to see :)
05:58 < EvilDude> no idea :S
05:58 < birostick> cause my contrast like.. sucked balls
05:58 < birostick> i couldn't see anything scroll in the beginning
05:58 < birostick> because it was so dark
05:58 < birostick> i set it all the way up
05:58 < birostick> all teh way down
05:58 < birostick> in the middle
05:58 < birostick> still nothing
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06:16  * jonrelay sends courtc a fixed fourbtnkbd.c
06:18 < zsr> what is button debounce?
06:20 < davidc__> its a little sticky thing that keeps buttons from bouncing when you drop them
06:20 < davidc__> that slider in prefs instructs the ipod to add glue to the back of the button surface
06:21 < joecool> i always wondered what it did.. 
06:21 < jonrelay> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1891&highlight=debounce
06:21 < jonrelay> Scroll down to my post.
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06:23 < joecool> oh debounce is kinda worthless for 1-2 and 4g ipods
06:23 < joecool> i can see 3g, cause thats just a shitty idea
06:23 < joecool> the whole touch problem :)
06:24 < davidc__> er, debounce is crucial for 1g's
06:24 < davidc__> you can barely use the buttons without debounce
06:24 < joecool> really?
06:24 < davidc__> yeah..
06:25 < davidc__> its the jitter at the edges of the push / ends
06:25 < joecool> hmm.. were the buttons like super-wobbly or somehthing?
06:25 < joecool> ah
06:25 < davidc__> it happens on all buttons
06:25 < davidc__> looks like this:
06:25 < davidc__> ..../\/\/\/\/\/\//\/***************.............****************\/\/\/\/\\/\/\/\/\.............
06:26 < joecool> oh damn lol
06:26 < joecool> i guess it is needed
06:28 < davidc__> all that jitter at the edges is normal to buttons.. its because of the spring action
06:28 < davidc__> you can get double action buttons that lack the click
06:29 < davidc__> but they're really expensive
06:29 < davidc__> and bulky
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06:55 < joecool> davidc__: any of the devs have mpd going with podzilla?
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07:08 < EvilDude> they might ;)
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07:42 < Capso> Can't wait 'till Mini 2G support is bumpin'.
07:49 < Capso> s/is bumpin'/arrives
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08:33 < Pojiku> hey just wonderin if the vidplayer is included in the recent nightlys?
08:35 < EvilDude> yes
08:35 < Pojiku> thanx!
08:38 < EvilDude> np
08:38 < EvilDude> make sure you get kernel and podzilla  not just podzilla
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08:50 < Pojiku> alright thanx
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10:28 < kevpatts> hey guys, can someone send me a link to the wiki page that describes how to begin building your own module for podzilla?
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10:37 < EvilDude> http://ipodlinux.org/Modifying_Podzilla
10:37 < EvilDude> should help
10:37 < originalTHP> heya ;)
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11:03 < cucamacuca> oi
11:06 < BleuLlama> can we detect a button press at podzilla startup, or is the keyboard event lost?  meaning, if i were holding down a key, starting when the linux boot text is scrolling, can we detect that when podzilla starts up?
11:07 < BleuLlama> i'm thinking that if we can, holding the "forward track" button or somesuch at startup, should force podzilla to remove (or set aside) its podzilla.conf file, and start (at least for contrast) from scratch
11:07 < BleuLlama> since that's a common fix for the contrast problem... perhaps it should just be a "force contrast to a known working value"?
11:07 < BleuLlama> just a thought
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11:11 < BleuLlama> morning, btw
11:12 < kevpatts> EvilDude: thanks man. I need to talk to you later, I believe you're the man for libitunesdb info. I have a project that I'm starting today and I may need some info/assistance from you in the near future.
11:13 < EvilDude> sure
11:18 < kevpatts> I'm working on setting up a stable interface and GUI  for ipod-to-ipod transfers over the scsi bus.This has been looked into by leachjb and he's given me some pointers. I'd then like to be able to "pop" them into the  iTunesDb file for access in standard apple application.
11:21 < EvilDude> ahh thats a lot of work ;)
11:22 < EvilDude> not sure how you'll be able to write personally, because there's problems with autosync issues, and also writing is very hard, not sure how libitunesdb does it either :(
11:22 < EvilDude> Maybe use mpd? coz everything is switching over to mpd hopefully soon
11:23 < EvilDude> a few developers are currently working on making mpd the backend
11:23 < BleuLlama> some thoughts;  perhaps copy the itunesdb to another file and use that one... or copy the itunesdb aside, and work on a backup copy of it
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11:24 < BleuLlama> my personal confidence level in libitunesdb is not that high, i'd be afraid of it twiddling one bit that it shouldnt somewhere and it causing itunes to freak out on parsing it.
11:25 < BleuLlama> nothing against anyone working on libitunesdb... it's amazing the detail people have gleaned from reverse engineering it
11:25 < EvilDude> I agree, working with the iTunesDB is a little dangerous
11:26 < BleuLlama> just based on my experiences with it just reading the db, i'm not confident that it will save out something that itunes fully groks
11:26 < EvilDude> haha, I think it's better to work like this:
11:26 < BleuLlama> and i'd hate for people to use it and lose the ability to work with their ipod in itunes, or have it lose the database completely from itunes' point of view
11:26 < EvilDude> Make another file that stores things like deletes to songs in iTUnesDB in our own format
11:27 < EvilDude> and then on the computer have a client program to run throught this file and apply changes in iTunes
11:27 < BleuLlama> that sounds good
11:27 < EvilDude> I personally dont like writing iTunesDB yet, I've written a couple of readers but no writers yet
11:27 < BleuLlama> in fact, on startup, podzilla can convert the itunesdb into our own format completely, then we just work against that.
11:27 < BleuLlama> something we know works 100%
11:28 < BleuLlama> and if something gets scrogged, and we lose our db, the itunes one is still there 
11:28 < BleuLlama> imo, itunesdb should only be read from on the ipod itself
11:28 < BleuLlama> hmm. poor grammar. let me rephrase
11:28 < EvilDude> yeah
11:28 < EvilDude> thats how it'll work anyway
11:28 < BleuLlama> imo, while running from the ipod itself, under ipl, the itunesdb should be read-only
11:28 < EvilDude> mpd = close enough to our own format ;)
11:29 < EvilDude> it is :)
11:29 < BleuLlama> exactly
11:29 < EvilDude> iTunesDB -> mpd converter used at start
11:29 < EvilDude> and then all mpd from there
11:29 < EvilDude> although not sure how we'll write PlayCounts file yet, but cant be too hard
11:29 < BleuLlama> but hey, people here have a differing viewpoints, and i'm by no means a decision maker for the project.  just throwing in my 2 cents
11:29 < EvilDude> we can add a hook that checks options and if wanted, writes that file or something
11:29 < EvilDude> haha na you're a dev, you control what happens ;)
11:30 < BleuLlama> 0.017 Euro
11:30 < EvilDude> hmm?
11:30 < BleuLlama> 2.188 Yen
11:31 < EvilDude> haha
11:31 < EvilDude> are you working on a currency converter by any chance :S?
11:32 < BleuLlama> .217 pesos
11:32 < BleuLlama> yeah. the "Unit Converter" dashboard widget. ;)
11:32 < EvilDude> haha
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11:38 < ^0tso> Which OS is the optional on an iPod photo?
11:44 < ^0tso> aegray_: you there?
11:45 < ^0tso> oh, 06:45:/
11:46 < Izz^> Which OS is the optional..? Wha..?
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11:46 < ^0tso> wich is the best os?
11:46 < cucamacuca> ah
11:47 < Izz^> Ah.. ."optimal"?
11:47 < cucamacuca> well try yourself
11:50 < cybathug> so - what video is everyone liking on their pods?
11:54 < coob> debbie_does_dal^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfluffy_bunnies.avi
11:59 < ^0tso> what am I supposed to do with the 2005-03-30-podzilla.gz file?
11:59 < ^0tso> rename it to what?
12:00 < cybathug> extract it
12:00 < cybathug> rename the extracted file to podzilla
12:00 < cybathug> do you have ipod linux installed already?
12:00 < originalTHP> for podzilla "on the desktop" - do i have to install all needed libraries the way it is described on that page or is it sufficient to just install the -dev debs?
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12:01 < coob> you need them how they're described
12:02 < ^0tso> cybathug: I downloaded two files from nightlys
12:02 < originalTHP> ok
12:02 < ^0tso> 2005-03-30-kernel.bin.gz and 2005-03-30-podzilla.gz
12:02 < ^0tso> which should I rename to what+
12:02 < ^0tso> podzilla or vipodzilla?
12:03 < cybathug> ^0tso: have you ever installed ipod linux before?
12:03 < ^0tso> cybathug no
12:03 < cybathug> ok
12:03 < cybathug> what generation ipod do you have?
12:03 < ^0tso> photo
12:03 < ^0tso> 4g
12:03 < cybathug> ok
12:04 < cybathug> i know it's possible to install on 4g and mini (i have a mini) unofficially and unsupportedly
12:04 < cybathug> not sure about the photo
12:04 < ^0tso> I am following the guide at http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer
12:04 < cybathug> take it to pm, this stuff isn't for irc :p
12:05 < kevpatts> EvilDude and BleuLlama, thanks for the info. (sorry for the delay, I'm in work) I have another friend whos very interested in working on this. He's a better programmer that I and he's gonna dedicate his time getting libitunesdb stable in read/write. I have a few people willing to test it on their ipods and report any bugs. I only gathered this task force yesterday and none of them have ever...
12:05 < kevpatts> ...even used linux before! They're very clever people though, and want to help. I'm gonna tell them to use me as a primary contact and this chat room as a secondary if you don't mind.
12:06 < EvilDude> ah ok
12:11 < kevpatts> I just think this feature would bring ipodlinux to the masses.
12:14 < urbanvanilla> i think there are several features required before it gets to 'the masses'
12:16 < urbanvanilla> on a side: is 4g still having trouble with VBR's cos it seems to do mine fine
12:16 < urbanvanilla> oh right
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12:16 < urbanvanilla> malloc errors
12:17 < urbanvanilla> heh. spoke too soon
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12:34 < Fall> hm so it's vbr ay
12:34 < Fall> I thought it was just anything over 4, 5 mins
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12:35 < urbanvanilla> ooh.
12:35 < urbanvanilla> that could be it
12:35 < urbanvanilla> i dont know
12:35 < Fall> that's my feelings ... anything under 5 mins it plays fine, vbr or not
12:35 < Fall> but yeah, some longer tracks I've got just bork
12:35 < Fall> which is a shame because I listen to alot of prog
12:35 < Fall> ;-)
12:36 < EvilDude> its to do with size
12:36 < Fall> ay
12:36 < EvilDude> if the size exceeds the amount of space that can be found in a single block it will cause an error
12:36 < EvilDude> how it should work is it should malloc 1mb blocks or so and then fill them up
12:36 < EvilDude> but the way it works is it tries to find one block of RAM to put the song into
12:36 < urbanvanilla> explaining the malloc fails then..
12:37 < EvilDude> and unfortunately ram isnt like |||||......   (where dots are the free space) but more like ..|..|.....|..|| or something like that
12:37 < EvilDude> and so you cant find a block > 5mb very easily and so it will fail
12:37 < Fall> hmm
12:37 < EvilDude> so simply put not enough RAM free in one block.
12:37  * originalTHP currently trying to build podzilla for desktop.. :)
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12:39 < cucamacuca> humm
12:39 < Fall> it needs to clear RAM more efficiently?
12:40 < EvilDude> no
12:40 < EvilDude> Just that ram is in fragments i guess
12:40 < EvilDude> and it might have a reason
12:40 < EvilDude> eg kernel in one place, one program in one place, vars in one place etc
12:40 < EvilDude> its just the allocation needs to be better
12:40 < EvilDude> and it works fine in mpd supposedly :)
12:40 < EvilDude> in other words, fixes are coming.
12:41 < EvilDude> just that they'll come in a huge lump ;)
12:41 < urbanvanilla> well
12:41 < urbanvanilla> thatll be nice.
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12:43 < cucamacuca> who are they?
12:43 < Fall> does anyone else who is running pz on a 4g have lockups after playing ogg?
12:46 < urbanvanilla> i do
12:47 < urbanvanilla> but i dont have the ogg binary anymore, i use the nightlies
12:47 < Fall> ah.
12:47 < cucamacuca> mas são verdes
12:48 < originalTHP> umm error while compiling
12:49 < originalTHP> no rule for making target video/video.o (in podzilla, i'm compiling podzilla for x11)
12:49 < Fall> I'd tell it to shut up and know who it's master is.
12:50 < cucamacuca> lol
12:55 < originalTHP> where is video.c in podzilla?
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14:15 < tune> chupamela
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14:18 < tune> e hijos de puta
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14:59 < _KDE> aegray, you bacame a contributor?
15:00 < aegray> luke did that a few days ago
15:00 < _KDE> ok
15:01 < Luke> aegray's been a contributor... i just added his title a few days ago =)
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15:30 < pro> i cant really see this on the site, but can i use my 4G if its just to store stuff, idont want play music or anything
15:30 < aegray> yes
15:30 < pro> and i can leave the apple os on cause its not working, and i dont want to let it switch on and of and on and off al the time
15:31 < pro> like now when it starts i see an apple, then a folder thing, and if you turn it off, it goes off for 2 secs and then does that over and over and over
15:31 < aegray> use apple restore util
15:31 < pro> i dont have it
15:32 < aegray> download it from apple.com
15:32 < pro> but why? cant i just put ipodlinux on and use it as a 20G removeable?
15:33 < aegray> because ipodlinux doesn't sleep - all your battery will go away
15:33 < aegray> use apple os and use it as 20g removable
15:33 < aegray> same effect
15:34 < pro> mmm, ok
15:34 < pro> anyway, thanks
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16:18 < AvatarGuru> helloo
16:19 < cucamacuca> does ipod linux run always at 75Mhz?
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16:20 < aegray> should
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16:21 < cucamacuca> humm
16:21 < aegray> that can be changed
16:21 < cucamacuca> no?
16:22 < aegray> codes in linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/hardware.c
16:22 < aegray> in the kernel
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16:23 < cucamacuca> so how mac os preserv his batery?
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16:23 < aegray> it has power management functions that we don't have yet
16:24 < cucamacuca> thanks
16:24 < Cippo> huh? has someone made power management stuff for the iPod?
16:24 < aegray> no
16:24 < aegray> apple
16:24 < cucamacuca> lol
16:24 < Cippo> :)
16:25 < cucamacuca> is there someone who is workig on that'
16:25 < cucamacuca> ?
16:25 < aegray> possibly
16:25 < aegray> :)
16:25 < Cippo> always funny only get the end of a conversation :)
16:25 < cucamacuca> yeah :)
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16:29 < cucamacuca> nice
16:29 < cucamacuca> i converted avi and now i am playing on the ipod :P
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16:31 < ^0tso> aegray: would you mind helping me out again? I've downloaded the 4gipl archive now
16:32 < aegray> i can try
16:32 < ^0tso> thanks
16:32 < ^0tso> I've moved everything except the modded folder to the ipod root
16:32 < ^0tso> what should I rename 2005-06-15-podzilla to?
16:32 < aegray> podzilla
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16:32 < ^0tso> and I should remove the viPodzilla file?
16:33 < aegray> you can just leave it
16:33 < ^0tso> ren 2005-06-15-kernel.bin linux.bin ?
16:33 < aegray> sure and put that in the modded installer folder
16:33 < ^0tso> ye
16:33 < aegray> put podzilla in ipod root
16:33 < ^0tso> did that
16:34 < ^0tso> should I do anything about the os.rar archive?
16:34 < aegray> no
16:34 < ^0tso> ok
16:34 < ^0tso> and now run the installer?
16:34 < aegray> sure
16:35 < cucamacuca> aegray can u help me too.. i had do it that for a long time but i've always have to restore ipod.. how can update ipod without losing songs ( restoring ) 
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16:35 < aegray> can't
16:35 < aegray> you should have song backups
16:35 < ^0tso> I could
16:35 < ^0tso> the way I did it:
16:35 < ^0tso> go to the root
16:35 < cucamacuca> yes
16:35 < ^0tso> then show hidden files
16:35 < cucamacuca> and then?
16:35 < ^0tso> I:\iPod_Control\Device\system
16:35 < ^0tso> open it in notepad
16:36 < cucamacuca> yes
16:36 < ^0tso> hold on a sec
16:36 < cucamacuca> oki
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16:36 < ^0tso> buildID: 0x02108000 (2.2)
16:37 < ^0tso> change the buildID to that
16:37 < cucamacuca> humm
16:37 < ^0tso> make suer its not the Visible buildID
16:37 < cucamacuca> i have to always to change?
16:37 < ^0tso> change what?
16:37 < cucamacuca> buildID
16:38 < ^0tso> just change it once
16:38 < ^0tso> now run the updater
16:38 < cucamacuca> oki
16:38 < ^0tso> and push update
16:38 < ^0tso> i'm not 100% your files will stay, but it worked for me
16:38 < cucamacuca> the installer update?
16:38 < ^0tso> yep
16:38 < ^0tso> make sure that u have a firewire or wall plug
16:38 < Cippo> or even better
16:38 < cucamacuca> wall?
16:38 < ^0tso> aegray: it seem's to work, now how do I boot into linux?
16:39 < Cippo> just backup your files!! :)
16:39 < cucamacuca> yes i always backup my files
16:39 < cucamacuca> ^0tso just turn on the hold
16:39 < cucamacuca> and off
16:39 < cucamacuca> and then click menu and that button in the middle
16:39 < cucamacuca> like 3 sec
16:39 < cucamacuca> and then it reboots
16:40 < cucamacuca> when u see the apple turn on and off the hold
16:40 < ^0tso> wtf, it didn't work :/
16:41 < aegray> what about it didn't work?
16:41 < ^0tso> podzilla: exec format error execution finished, exiting
16:41 < cucamacuca> lol
16:41 < cucamacuca> xi
16:41 < aegray> mv viPodzilla to podzilla - overwrite it
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16:41 < aegray> in the root of ipod
16:41 < aegray> recopy all to ipod
16:42 < aegray> then rename viPodzilla to podzilla
16:42 < cucamacuca> humm
16:43 < cucamacuca> what is the diference of viPodzilla to podzilla?
16:43 < ^0tso> aegray: I've opened the root, now what?
16:43 < aegray> viPodzilla is an unstable podzilla with added stuff
16:43 < aegray> recopy all the stuff you copied before
16:43 < BleuLlama> also chmod a+x podzilla
16:43 < aegray> hes not on linux i don't think
16:43 < ^0tso> I'm on windows
16:43 < BleuLlama> oh, nevermind.  ignore me
16:44 < cucamacuca> lol
16:44 < ^0tso> I renamed vipodzilla to podzilla, but it dont work
16:45 < aegray> if its booting the kernel then it worked right - just something you did wrong in copying podzilla
16:45 < aegray> whats the exact messages when it fails
16:45 < ^0tso> "podzilla: exec format error execution finished, exiting"
16:45 < aegray> whats the message before that?
16:45 < ^0tso> hold on
16:46 < ^0tso> I didn't re-copy all the files
16:46 < aegray> recopy then move viPodzilla to podzilla
16:46 < aegray> (rename it over the current podzilla)
16:47 < ^0tso> but wouldn't that be using vipodzilla instead of podzilla?
16:47 < aegray> yes
16:47 < aegray> but just to get it to run
16:47 < aegray> then we can try something else later
16:47 < ^0tso> Podzilla or podzilla?
16:47 < aegray> podzilla
16:47 < cucamacuca> lower
16:48 < ^0tso> re-installing now
16:48 < ^0tso> or just copy?
16:48 < aegray> just copy
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16:49 < ^0tso> got the apple screen atm
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16:49 < ^0tso> original Os works fine, trying linux now
16:50 < cucamacuca> :)
16:50 < ^0tso> text flashing by
16:50 < ^0tso> it worked :DD
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16:51 < ^0tso> aegray: what now?
16:51 < aegray> use it or put in a different podzilla
16:52 < ^0tso> what would you recommend? (photo 60gb)
16:52 < aegray> i dunno
16:52 < aegray> i don't know the differences
16:52 < ^0tso> ok
16:52 < ^0tso> I'll try getting the podzilla working now
16:52 < ^0tso> how do you get out of the console?
16:53 < ^0tso> accidentaly put it on
16:53 < aegray> reboot
16:53 < aegray> menu+center
16:53 < ^0tso> ok
16:53 < ^0tso> it seems as if the sensitivity is higher on linux, can I change that?
16:53 < aegray> yes
16:54 < ^0tso> ok
16:54 < ^0tso> what should I rename podzilla.old to?
16:54 < ^0tso> ther is no podzilla file in the root
16:54 < aegray> podzilla
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16:54 < ^0tso> even though I won't overwrite anything?
16:55 < aegray> to install a new podzilla you have to recopy everything
16:55 < aegray> then overwrite the podzilla in root of ipod with whatever podzilla you want to use
16:55 < ^0tso> so I have to re-do everything I just did?
16:55 < aegray> yes
16:55 < cucamacuca> lol
16:56 < ^0tso> ok
16:56 < ^0tso> what is the best program to send music to the ipod?
16:56 < cucamacuca> uhmm am playing a movie on my ipod photo its great :)
16:56 < ^0tso> cucamacuca: how do you play movies?
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16:56 < ^0tso> and where do you put them?
16:57 < cucamacuca> well
16:57 < cucamacuca> do you have cygwin?
16:57 < ^0tso> nope
16:57 < cucamacuca> oki
16:57 < ^0tso> not on my PC atleast
16:57 < cucamacuca> there is a kernel
16:57 < cucamacuca> and a version of podzilla
16:58 < cucamacuca> that suport uncompressed videos
16:58 < cucamacuca> .avi
16:58 < cucamacuca> just have to find those files
16:58 < cucamacuca> and do what aegray told about
16:59 < cucamacuca> then download a file .avi uncompressed and in the file browsing click it :P
16:59 < ^0tso> but not viPodzilla?
16:59 < cucamacuca> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player
16:59 < aegray> we dunno
16:59 < cucamacuca> nop its podzilla
16:59 < cucamacuca> it is same thing :P
16:59 < ^0tso> err
17:00 < ^0tso> Audio playback is unsopported on this hardware
17:00 < ^0tso> :S
17:00 < aegray> it works
17:00 < aegray> very well too
17:00 < cucamacuca> audio?
17:00 < cucamacuca> well
17:00 < cucamacuca> u have mac os
17:00 < cucamacuca> :P
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17:00 < cucamacuca> its just beta program :P
17:01 < ^0tso> vipodzilla or podzilla?
17:01 < ^0tso> which program should I send songs to my ipod with? is there a better one than itunes?
17:01 < aegray> itunes works
17:01 < cucamacuca> http://www.ipodlinux.org/images/1/17/Video_podzilla.tg
17:01 < cucamacuca> its podzilla
17:01 < ^0tso> ok
17:02 < cucamacuca> itunes is a very good program
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17:02 < ^0tso> I'll try installing podzilla later tonight
17:02  * aegray out for lunch
17:02  * ^0tso out for dinner
17:02 < ^0tso> :)
17:02 < cucamacuca> :P
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17:02 < cucamacuca> u must install the video kernel
17:02 < cucamacuca> dont forget it
17:02 < coob> erm
17:02 < ^0tso> ok
17:02 < coob> someone should change the page
17:02 < ^0tso> where do I fetch that kernel then?
17:02 < coob> saying just to use the nightlies
17:02 < cucamacuca> http://www.ipodlinux.org/images/4/41/Video_kernel.tgz
17:02 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/builds
17:03 < cucamacuca> the nightlies suport video?
17:03 < joecool> yes
17:03 < cucamacuca> damn
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17:03 < ^0tso> why didn't installing podzilla work when vipodzilla worked?
17:03 < ^0tso> just some random error that will go away?
17:03 < cucamacuca> lol
17:03 < joecool> ...?
17:03 < cucamacuca> who knows..
17:03 < ^0tso> or do I have to do anything in an other way?
17:03 < coob> because vipodzilla sucks.
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17:04 < joecool> i wish he'd make patches offa cvs for viPodzilla...
17:04 < cucamacuca> im gonna install the last builds cya
17:04 < ^0tso> well, I've gotta beat it now, see you all later
17:04 < cucamacuca> im waiting for the sound of videos :P
17:05 < ^0tso> err
17:05 < ^0tso> vipodzilla boots on default now
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17:05 < ^0tso> how do I boot mac os?
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17:06 < cucamacuca> lol
17:06 < cucamacuca> sometimes happens
17:06 < cucamacuca> llol
17:07 < cucamacuca> menu
17:07 < cucamacuca> and 
17:07 < cucamacuca> that button in the middle
17:07 < cucamacuca> hold like a 4 sec
17:07 < ^0tso> that just makes it restart
17:08 < cucamacuca> yes
17:08 < ^0tso> cucamacuca: what then?
17:08 < cucamacuca> then if you linux just turn on the hold
17:08 < cucamacuca> if not
17:09 < cucamacuca> do nothing and it returns to mac
17:09 < ^0tso> the hold was off
17:09 < ^0tso> yer linux
17:09 < cucamacuca> i think
17:09 < ^0tso> yet linux
17:09 < cucamacuca> turn on and off when you see the apple after you reboot
17:09 < ^0tso> ok
17:09 < ^0tso> I'll try that later
17:09 < ^0tso> pushing files to it now
17:09 < ^0tso> but how do I uninstall linux?
17:10 < cucamacuca> well i dunno
17:10 < cucamacuca> i always restore my ipod
17:10 < cucamacuca> lol
17:11 < ^0tso> I'll try that one again
17:11 < ^0tso> see you later
17:11 < cucamacuca> cya
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19:18 < dsh-1> g2/
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19:58 < BleuLlama> slow day
19:59 < joecool> well.. i could speed it up a bit
19:59 < joecool> how would I go about using the other boxes in the dialer
20:00 < joecool> (not red box.. i won't bother you on that)
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20:04 < coob> read the fucking source
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20:06 < joecool> coob: i did... 
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20:11 < BleuLlama> i can't say more than coob's suggestion
20:12 < coob> you could try saying it louder
20:12 < BleuLlama> heh
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20:13 < joecool> BleuLlama: ok.. i'll make my question more direct then.. how would I go about calling that function and using it to dial a number?
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20:14 < coob> that is the most documented piece of code i have ever seen
20:14 < coob> ever
20:14 < joecool> rofl
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20:16 < BleuLlama> heh
20:16 < BleuLlama> i get more verbose when working on projects with other people
20:17 < BleuLlama> our main work projects were done with Literate Programming (noweb to be exact)
20:17 < BleuLlama> LP usually takes 2x or more time to write than regular code, since you're explaining how everything works, and why it's done the way its done.
20:17 < BleuLlama> the source *is* the design document. heh.
20:18 < BleuLlama> regardless, I wanted the source for that to be so amazingly self-explanatory that I never have to revisit it.  ever.
20:18 < coob> heh
20:18 < joecool> mmm.. i'm still not sure howto do this
20:19 < BleuLlama> and fitting with the phreak-philosophy, if you can't hack the code to do what you want, you shouldn't be using it.  i can't make it too easy... then anyone who uses it is a script kiddie, rather than soemwhat of a hacker/phreaker
20:19 < BleuLlama> all of the things necessary for red-boxing are in there still, but a few tweaks here and there (like 3 lines?) will re-enable it.   that's all i'm going to say
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20:20 < davidc__> heh... 
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20:23 < joecool> well i tried calling the function but it doesn't dial shit, do i need to hit a button or something?
20:24 < zhixel> BleuLlama, teach me how to hack
20:24 < zhixel> what's the best wardialer
20:24 < zhixel> ???
20:24 < coob> 0-800-PENTAGON
20:25  * Vanquisher prepares to go wardriving
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20:28 < ^0tso> what's the url for the 4g installer page? I can't find it
20:30 < joecool> BleuLlama: well then answer me one thing at least.. if I use dialer_dial, do i need to do anything for it to dial? or should it just dial when I fire it up?
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20:35 < BleuLlama> zhixel: i hear Protovision has some cool games...
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20:36 < IRCMonkey> can someone help me with ipl
20:36 < BleuLlama> oh neat.  Sneakers was written by the same guys who wrote WarGames
20:36 < IRCMonkey> ?
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20:36 < Fenix-Dark> IRCMonkey, possibly
20:36 < Fenix-Dark> lol
20:40 < davidc__> IRCMonkey  - could you perchance be a bit more specific?
20:41 < josh_> does iPL dump core or just make an error message when a program segfaults?
20:41 < davidc__> dies horribly :)
20:41 < davidc__> there's no segmentation protection
20:41 < davidc__> so you probably will overwrite kernel mem
20:41 < davidc__> or some rather essential interrupt vectors + kernel code that lie at 0x0 and beyong
20:42 < davidc__> *beyond.
20:42 < josh_> I got this
20:42 < josh_> "Fatal Signal: Bus Error (SDL Parachute Deployed)"    "pid 60: failed 63774"
20:43 < josh_> that's a signal handler that prevents core dumps
20:43 < josh_> when I turn it off, I just get an apparent freeze (because the tty wasn't switched back), but no core dump.
20:44 < davidc__> oh, on the desktop?
20:44 < josh_> no
20:44 < josh_> on the iPod
20:44 < josh_> on the desktop it would be in a window
20:45 < davidc__> SDL? on the ipod? 
20:45 < josh_> correct
20:45 < josh_> I ported it
20:45 < josh_> and it's worked great so far
20:45 < davidc__> umm......
20:45 < josh_> :P
20:45 < davidc__> its... a bit large.. in terms of overhead
20:46 < josh_> I trimmed most of it
20:46 < josh_> timers, threads, audio, cdrom, WM, mouse, all out the window
20:47 < aegray> ls
20:48 < ^0tso> I'm using Podzilla, is there any way to look at the menues while listening to the music?
20:51 < josh_> not yet
20:51 < ^0tso> ok
20:52 < ^0tso> is there any application available to convert xvid files so that you can play them on the ipod?
20:53 < josh_> yes, it's called mencoder
20:53 < josh_> see the wiki
20:53 < birostick> hey javyx
20:53 < birostick> damnit
20:53 < birostick> josh_
20:53 < josh_> hi
20:53 < birostick> which is the video that works with the 1.1 firmware of the photo?
20:54 < birostick> that isn't all color distored.
20:54 < josh_> idk
20:54 < josh_> I don't have a photo.
20:54 < birostick> k
20:54 < birostick> :/
20:54 < birostick> i know there is one that they were talking about
20:54 < Daishi> the tester one is supposed to
20:54 < Daishi> but it doesnt with mine
20:54 < birostick> hmm
20:54 < Daishi> i think theres more than just a color change with 1.1 firmware
20:54 < birostick> okay
20:54 < Daishi> i downgraded yesterday
20:54 < birostick> yeah?
20:54 < Vanquisher> birostick, the 1.1 firmware screws all the colors
20:54 < Daishi> yea
20:54 < Vanquisher> birostick, u need 1.0
20:54 < birostick> does it work well?
20:54 < Vanquisher> otherwise it wont work
20:54 < Daishi> 1.0 works well
20:55 < Vanquisher> yes
20:55 < Vanquisher> it does
20:55 < birostick> alright...
20:55 < birostick> did you all do the uhm... trick to not erase all the songs?
20:55 < Vanquisher> yes
20:55 < birostick> does that work when downgrading?
20:55 < Vanquisher> the uninstall
20:55 < Vanquisher> ?
20:55 < birostick> no
20:55 < Vanquisher> well yeah thats what i did
20:55 < Vanquisher> follow the uninstall
20:55 < birostick> the editing of the uhm...
20:55 < birostick> editing some file
20:55 < Vanquisher> busid
20:55 < Daishi> edit sysinfo
20:55 < birostick> yes
20:55 < birostick> that one
20:55 < Vanquisher> busid
20:56 < Vanquisher> =
20:56 < birostick> the sysinfo
20:56 < Daishi> ipod_control > something > sysinfo
20:56 < birostick> yeah
20:56 < Daishi> busid
20:56 < Vanquisher> yeah
20:56 < Vanquisher> like i said
20:56 < Vanquisher> lol
20:56 < Daishi> heh
20:56 < Daishi> sorry
20:56 < Vanquisher> np
20:56 < Daishi> i wasnt looking at the screen
20:56 < birostick> k smarty pants :-P
20:56 < Vanquisher> u gave him the path ;)
20:56 < Vanquisher> to the busid ;)
20:56 < Vanquisher> :)
20:56 < birostick> *goes to get the 1.0 firmware*
20:56 < Vanquisher> birostick, anyway, if u do edit that and hit update u will loose ipodlinux
20:56 < Daishi> erm theres a good forum article
20:57 < birostick> teoo
20:57 < Vanquisher> birostick, but not the songs
20:57 < birostick> yep even
20:57 < birostick> thats cool
20:57 < birostick> i can put ipl back on
20:57 < birostick> no prob
20:57 < Vanquisher> there u go :)
20:57 < Vanquisher> enjoy ;)
20:57 < birostick> okay tehn
20:57 < birostick> i'll do it in a few
20:57 < birostick> :-)
20:57 < Vanquisher> u will be happy u did it :)
20:57 < Daishi> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2127&start=15
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21:00 < birostick> hmm
21:00 < birostick> internal error?
21:00 < Daishi> huh?
21:00 < Vanquisher> what
21:00 < birostick> iPod manager internal error :/
21:00 < Vanquisher> :|
21:00 < Vanquisher> wtf
21:00 < Vanquisher> birostick, what did u edit
21:01 < birostick> what it said to in that topic
21:01 < Vanquisher> umm
21:01 < Daishi> heh first time i edited sysinfo a while ago i only changed the buildID with (0.9) forgot about the 0x??????????
21:01 < Daishi> and it didnt work
21:01 < Daishi> oo
21:01 < Vanquisher> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Uninstallation
21:01 < Vanquisher> follow that
21:01 < Vanquisher> then re-install ipl
21:02 < Vanquisher> hell i just did that like 3 days ago
21:02 < Vanquisher> worked like a charm
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21:03 < Daishi> http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Apple-iPod-20050222.shtml you should modify your iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo in the 0x00000001 buildID: 0x04108000 Change it for an older one like 0x03008000 then run the ipod updater 20050222 finaly reinstall Linux-ipod with the last pozilla.
21:03 < ^0tso> Is there any sample movies that you can download to play video in the photo? I'm too tired to use cygwin atm
21:03 < Daishi> from that post
21:03 < Daishi> yea
21:03 < Daishi> look at the Video_Player page
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21:04 < Daishi> i dont think you need to use cygwin just something that can output a raw video
21:04 < ^0tso> wrong screen :)
21:04 < Daishi> i dont think you need to use cygwin just something that can output a raw video
21:04 < Daishi> im sure windows has to have something which can
21:04 < ^0tso> ok, I'll try google later
21:06 < EiGHTBALLx> hello
21:07 < josh_> hello
21:07 < EiGHTBALLx> i am really weirded out , my mini 2g in sysinfo has  buildid as 2.5 and visible build id as 1.3!! the firmware is 1.3 can any one clarify this i am scared to change it!
21:09 < ^0tso> EiGHTBALLx: that's noral I think
21:09 < ^0tso> normal
21:09 < ^0tso> my ipod has version 4.0 in sysinfo, and 1.0 in updater
21:09 < EiGHTBALLx> which field do i change?
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21:09 < EiGHTBALLx> buildid or visiblebuildid
21:10 < ^0tso> buildid
21:10 < Daishi> invisiblebuildid
21:11 < EiGHTBALLx> there is no INvisiblebuildid !
21:11 < Daishi> dottedlinebuildid?
21:12 < Daishi> jk
21:12 < Daishi> i changed both actually when i did it though only buildid is necessary
21:13 < Daishi> one day we will understand apples versioning system
21:13 < Daishi> one day
21:13 < Daishi> probably when the complete source code to windows is released
21:14 < EiGHTBALLx> lol that would be when hellfreezes over!
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21:14 < Daishi> no right after
21:14 < Daishi> and im so glad kevpatts wasnt here to see that
21:15 < kevpatts> so am I. I've heard about you Daishi.
21:15 < Daishi> you have?
21:15 < Daishi> what have you?
21:16 < kevpatts> "a frankly sick individual" among other things, word spreads quick on this interweb. So quick in fact, I know you'r having chicken for dinner tomorrow.
21:16 < Daishi> omg!!
21:16 < Daishi> who said i was frankly sick?
21:16 < kevpatts> your next son.
21:17 < joecool> franky is sick!!?
21:17 < Daishi> next!?!
21:17 < kevpatts> quick I tell you. VERY quick.
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21:17 < Daishi> you need a first to have a next
21:18 < Daishi> ah free as in ber
21:18 < davidc__> umm.. insane ramblings?
21:19 < Daishi> no
21:19 < Daishi> fre_ber
21:19 < kevpatts> some would say so. Me being one. I'll stop now. (a mans gotta make an entrance though)
21:19 < Daishi> free beer
21:19 < davidc__> a man's also gotta use his +q :)
21:19 < fre_ber__> You rang?
21:19 < ^0tso> I downloaded the phototest-movie, but it's not fullscreen, is it due to lack of resolution, or software?
21:19 < Daishi> hai
21:19 < Daishi> resolution
21:19 < kevpatts> fullscreen for me
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21:19 < kevpatts> the ipod add?
21:20 < ^0tso> kevpatts: ipod ad
21:20 < Daishi> resolution of video simply because theres no decoding
21:21 < joecool>   v cvx,fdx tgf,lktrfd,kfdfl,xfgmkntfrmkfcmfm, fmmkjnfmnkjfmkjnfjkmrfjkmnftkmjgflkmgvl,gffg,.
21:21 < ^0tso> kevpatts: what kinda ipod have you got?
21:21 < birostick> ohh and that worked guys
21:21 < birostick> thx
21:21 < joecool> just felt like whakin the hell outta my keyboard in utter dispair...
21:21 < joecool> i might do it again
21:21 < kevpatts> photo 60gig. "Envy" green. got it from http://www.colorwarepc.com
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21:22 < ^0tso> then how come we didn't get the same resolution
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21:24 < kevpatts> I have 2 questions for you guys. I'm now gonna compile the most recent podzilla and kernel. Where can I get nightly source for the nightly builds? I'm looking to build source that supports video. Also, if my ipod can play 60 meg video files without malloc failures, how come it can't play mp3?
21:25 < aegray> nightly comes from cvs
21:25 < aegray> because mp3 is set up different
21:25 < coob> how about reading the fucking website
21:25 < aegray> to buffer the whole thing
21:25 < coob> instead of irritating people with basic questions
21:25 < kevpatts> thanks
21:25 < Fall> jeez, it doesn't say much on the website about malloc errors
21:26 < Fall> no explanation...
21:26 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/requests/?do=details&id=5
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21:28 < coob> linked no less
21:28 < coob> from http://ipodlinux.org/podzilla
21:29 < coob> which comes up if you put 'malloc' into the search box
21:34 < ^0tso> what's the resolution of ipod photo?
21:38 < Daishi> 220x176
21:43 < kevpatts> sorry guys, later.
21:43 < Daishi> the tester ipod ad is also a smaller resolution for me
21:43 < Daishi> maybe kevpatts is talking about another video
21:44 < kevpatts> okay, I'll send you a link to the exact video I got
21:44 < kevpatts> ...
21:44 < Daishi> coob: reading the chan seems to aggrevate you, i think you should do less reading and more coding my ipod to make me a sandwhich
21:44 < Daishi> sandwich?
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21:46 < coob> no, irritating idiots aggrevate me
21:46 < coob> not really in a coding mood :/
21:46 < kevpatts> http://booc.coob.org/ipod-ads.tar.bz2, I took the files from the photo subdir in that tarball.
21:47 < coob> those are the exact resolution for the ipod
21:47 < coob> what are you smoking
21:48 < Daishi> coob: yea
21:48 < joecool> he's on crack cocaine i think
21:48 < Daishi> kevpatts: thats not the testing ad
21:48 < Daishi> the test thing was only for 1.1+ anyways
21:49 < Daishi> and it doesnt actually work right
21:49 < joecool> another reason to not smoke crack
21:52 < kevpatts> coob: I know, they work perfectly for me. Daishi: These work, I didn't mention anything about the testing ad. I couldn't get the testing one working at all, but that was cause of another issue now resolved. sorry dude, I'll try em again now.
21:57 < kevpatts> okay, just to make sure, I'm taking it you mean the file here: http://www.ipodlinux.org/videos/DivingIpodPhoto.tgz. Fullscreen for me, but massive colour corruption.
21:57 < aegray> supposed to be
21:58 < kevpatts> well then, yeah. Fullscreen works fine Daishi.
21:58 < joecool> http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/ipodlinux/killzone.avi.bz2 << killzone trailer for ps3, formatted to fit on the photo
21:58 < joecool> looks very awesome
21:58 < Vanquisher> :)
21:59 < Vanquisher> yes it does
21:59 < Daishi> this place really is like an old folks home
21:59 < Vanquisher> lol
21:59 < coob> [23:21]          coob | this is like an old folks home.
21:59 < coob> line stealer :/
22:01 < Vanquisher> lol
22:01 < Vanquisher> coob, didnt know you owned that phrase
22:01 < Vanquisher> got a patent?
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22:02 < josh_> Vanquisher: hey, don't support software patents! :P
22:03 < Vanquisher> josh_, i dont
22:03 < Vanquisher> lol
22:03 < Vanquisher> why do u think i use linux
22:03 < josh_> of course
22:03 < josh_> I was jokingly referring to (15:01:25) Vanquisher: got a patent?
22:04 < Daishi> coob: i was repeating what you said ofcourse
22:04 < kevpatts> <kevpatts>	well then, yeah. Fullscreen works fine Daishi.
22:04 < Daishi> see old folks
22:04 < Vanquisher> josh_, i'll refer to the dictionary --> "a joke" :)
22:05 < Vanquisher> anyway
22:05 < Vanquisher> bbl
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22:06 < coob> can't patent a phrase
22:06 < coob> it's (tm) cube
22:08 < Daishi> i just patented a method for patentingphrases
22:09 < josh_> I just patented a method for a patent office! I'm going to sue the USPTO!
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22:19 < Daishi> hrm im guessing dialer.c isnt in podzilla by default
22:19 < coob> it'll be in a recent nighlty
22:19 < coob> it was only added to cvs the other day
22:20 < Daishi> oo k
22:21  * Daishi gets new nightly
22:21 < Daishi> heh i just realized i only updated the kernel from cvs and not podzilla
22:23 < josh_> ok, my iPod just dumped core ... and made an EMPTY core file.
22:23 < Daishi> i hear if you cat linux.bin > /dev/dsp it will say leachbj rocks!
22:23 < josh_> interesting encoding...
22:23 < Daishi> followed by a satanic message
22:24 < Daishi> and then a recipe for spicy fried chicken
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22:26 < zsk009> is there a way i can make new_message_window print a message in multiple lines?
22:26 < zsk009> like, new_message_window("first line",\n,"2nd line")
22:26 < josh_> sure, write new_message_window_multiline().
22:26 < coob> no.
22:27 < coob> it wrsp lines by default
22:27 < coob> wraps
22:27 < zsk009> can i tell it where to make a new line though?
22:27 < coob> but doesn't process newlines
22:27 < zsk009> ok, thanks
22:27 < coob> patches welcome
22:27 < coob> fancy turning off bold
22:27 < zsk009> better?
22:28 < zsk009> wait, what bout now
22:28 < coob> yeah better
22:28 < zsk009> k
22:28 < coob> no
22:28 < zsk009> dang
22:28 < zsk009> srry its auto
22:28 < zsk009> ill just leave now
22:28 < coob> so turn it off
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22:28 < coob> winner.
22:28 < Daishi> heh
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22:39 < mpc> can anyone tell me why the 1.3 installer seems to be nonexistent?
22:41 < coob> pulled because of bugs
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23:00 < Daishi> was taken out of the matrix
23:02 < mpc> ok thanks
23:03 < mpc> is there anyway to get realtime mp3 playback on 3g ipods?
23:03 < aegray> convert to 128kbps mp3 cbr
23:04 < coob> if it was easy it'd be done by now
23:04 < ^0tso> what does realtime mean? No buffering?
23:04 < aegray> no skipping and plays at full speed
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23:17 < burrito> i have an ipod mini 2nd gen. can i help in some way?
23:17 < burrito> (with win xp)
23:17 < coob> nope.
23:17 -!- Vanquisher|ET is now known as Vanquisher
23:17 < burrito> all right
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23:19 < mpc> what are your opinions of viopdzilla
23:20 < coob> untested, buggy, cobbled together
23:20 < dreamkeep> Vanquisher: Hello! Are you remember to me? We're tolkin about an iPod Linux at yesturday?
23:20 < dreamkeep> :)
23:20 < coob> stupidly named
23:21 < dreamkeep> It's working. I'm installed it. :D
23:22 < dreamkeep> What's a maximum video size, what it can play?
23:23 < coob> anything under 2 gig
23:24 < dreamkeep> I'v a 330MB but with sound (in mp3 format)
23:25 < dreamkeep> The sound is in mp3 the video is uncopressed avi
23:25 < Daishi> oo i thought the dialer allowed you to like setup a string of numbers to dial
23:26 < BleuLlama> nope. that interface just lets you dial individual digits
23:26 < Daishi> that'd be neat a portable speed dial, not really requesting it though if/when i learn enough c i may add that myself
23:26 < BleuLlama> eventually, it will be hooked in to an address book
23:27 < BleuLlama> you can write that if you like
23:27 < Daishi> i can write a hello world program and some simple math stuff is about it
23:28 < ^0tso> how do you add own C-programs to the linux system?
23:28 < ^0tso> is it C or Cpp?
23:29 < Daishi> could be either
23:29 < Daishi> whatever you want to write in
23:29 < ^0tso> sounds nice
23:29 < mpc> for those who disliked vipodzilla, what do you use instead, podzilla stable? nightly builds? other?
23:29 < ^0tso> if you use the function called Switch, what are the buttons called?
23:29 < Daishi> you should however write everything in VAX assembly
23:30 < Daishi> mpc: ive never tried vipodzilla yet i use nightly
23:31 < mpc> am i doing something wrong or when im using the latest nightly, it only allows you to play one song at a time
23:31 < Daishi> i dunno i never use linux on my ipod to play songs it uses up WAY too much battery
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23:32 < BleuLlama> mpc: podzilla nightly builds (well, cvs)
23:32 < BleuLlama> mpc: how many songs do you need to play at a time?  
23:32 < mpc> i meant when one song ends it goes to menu rather than advacing
23:33 < mpc> and next song buttons dont seem to work
23:33 < mpc> or is the current agreement that iPL isn't to be used for audio playback
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23:34 < BleuLlama> ?
23:34 < dreamkeep> Do play a nightly builds a video?
23:34 < BleuLlama> play music from the Music menu.  it should work
23:34 < mpc> but not very well
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23:35 < BleuLlama> i don't know what to tell you... 
23:35 < Daishi> BleuLlama: make it so we can listen to 2 songs at a time one in each speaker
23:36 < Vanquisher> dreamkeep, hey
23:36 < Daishi> that would technically double the play time of an ipod
23:36 < mpc> no, i got it, thanks- i was just tihnking it would be more  mature than it is
23:36 < Fenix-Dark> mpc, ipod linux is still in its alpha stages
23:36 < mpc> daishi: why would that double the play time?
23:36 < dreamkeep> Vanquisher: It's working. :D I'm installed it today. :DDDD
23:36 < Vanquisher> :D
23:36 < Vanquisher> nice
23:37 < Daishi> mpc: two songs at once double the song double the time
23:37 < BleuLlama> daishi: give me more cpu first.
23:37 < Daishi> i have a pentium chip if you want it
23:37 < Vanquisher> dreamkeep, watch any videos?
23:37 < mpc> you mean have one song in the left channel and one in the right?
23:37 < BleuLlama> to play more than one song at once, you'll need a lot more cpu than we have
23:37 < dreamkeep> But I'm install it under the windows. I've trouble with linux. I'm using it just few time. :(
23:38 < Daishi> please dont take anything i say seriously
23:38 < Daishi> except that
23:38 < mpc> thats just 2 mono tracks, you could have the exact same result by making mono mp3s
23:38 < Vanquisher> dreamkeep, as long as it is installed
23:38 < coob> and that?
23:38 < Vanquisher> :)
23:38 < mpc> ok...
23:38 < Daishi> coob: ofcourse
23:38 < Daishi> d-:
23:38 < coob> ok. what about thaat?
23:38 < Daishi> no
23:38 < Daishi> dont take that seriously alright
23:38 < coob> but do i take htat seriously?
23:39 < mpc> does anyone know how to return from terminal without restarting
23:39 < Daishi> oo dialer_dial() function
23:39 < Daishi> coob: maybe
23:39 < BleuLlama> mpc: it's more complicated than that  (playing 2 songs at once)
23:39 < coob> mpc: hit menu
23:39 < dreamkeep> VanQ: Yes, I try play a video, but just from the site. I made one, with sound and it've 330MB and can't open it
23:39 < mpc> i just makes an 'm' character
23:40 < Vanquisher> dreamkeep, no sound
23:40 < Vanquisher> dreamkeep, u need to run the mencoder command under linux on the video
23:40 < Vanquisher> :)
23:40 < coob> mpc reboot then
23:40 < dreamkeep> I'm ude a cygwin
23:41 < dreamkeep> use
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23:42 < NeuTRiNo> any of us know if there is a log of that channel that can be acces via web?
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23:44 < Daishi> howcome stuff ends up in the nightlys before cvs?
23:47 < davidc__> Daishi: because the nightlys are pulled from SF using my developer CVS acct ;)
23:48 < davidc__> and then compiled
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23:51 < coob> Daishi: http://ipodlinux.org/CVS
23:51 < coob> explanation at the bottom
23:51 < coob> NeuTRiNo: /whois _ipodstats
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23:52 < NeuTRiNo> thanks coob :D
23:52 < davidc__> coob - the anon cvs lags more than that I think
23:52 < davidc__> I think it can be anywhere from 11 hours +
23:54 < Daishi> hrm now im trying to figure out how to use the dialer_dial() function actually more or less how to call a function *looks for C book*
23:54 < davidc__> calling a function: return_value = your_function(the, parameters, to, your, function);
23:55 < davidc__> BleuLlama: nice red box obfuscation
23:55 < davidc__> BleuLlama: damn trvial to see what you did though vioa that commit
23:58 < coob> davidc__: i think it depends on the rate of peruvian wombats integration trignometric functions in unrolled loops
23:58 < coob> integrating*
23:58 < davidc__> coob. thats nice
23:59 < davidc__> return to your quiet version of insanity
23:59 < davidc__> anyways, I'm leaving work right now. 'later
23:59 < coob> cya
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