--- Log opened Fri Jun 10 00:00:03 2005 00:02 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:07 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:47 -!- Petterminator [p@56.180.32.ip.nordiq.net] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 00:53 -!- aegra1 [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:01 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:12 -!- aegra1 is now known as Egrets 01:14 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:14 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:25 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:26 -!- assassin [~assassin@assassin.user] has quit ["leaving"] 01:30 -!- tlg_ [~tlg@219-215.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 -!- zsr- [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:31 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:33 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:41 -!- tlg [~tlg@24-226.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:49 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:50 -!- person [~person@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 02:15 -!- sleepless [~sleepy@AC94F97C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:16 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:24 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-199-246.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:44 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:44 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:46 < jonrelay> How are things? 02:49 < courtc> Well I'm playing some music on my iPod and playing tetris. Things are good. 02:49 -!- wannabeskater13 [~chatzilla@68-232-254-55.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:50 < joecool> courtc: music plays in background now? 02:50 < courtc> for me it does ;) 02:50 < aegray> hehe 02:50 -!- sleepless [~sleepy@AC94F97C.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["generic quit message"] 02:52 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:52 < coob> yep 02:53 * coob listens to an ogg and plays ipobble 02:53 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:55 < notaguest> anyone here? 02:55 < Mike> about 57 people 02:56 -!- fre_ber_ [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 02:56 < coob> notaguest: you need a nightly kernel to play video 02:57 < courtc> coob psychic 02:59 < coob> yep. 03:01 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:03 < notaguest> no i got the video woriking 03:03 < notaguest> i jsut need the 1.0 firmware 03:03 < notaguest> where can i get that 03:03 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/FAQ 03:04 < notaguest> ? 03:04 < aegray> 5.3 in the fiq 03:04 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/FAQ#Can_you_send_me_firmware_x.y.3F 03:04 < aegray> haha 03:05 < notaguest> yeah but they dont support it anymore? and the video was made for that firmware no? 03:05 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:05 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:05 < coob> no. 03:06 < courtc> yea, no. 03:06 < notaguest> no? 03:06 < coob> yeah 03:06 < courtc> no. 03:06 < notaguest> yeah so it was made for that then what do i do 03:06 < aegray> nes 03:06 < aegray> if you can find it - good. if not then your screwed till a fix comes out. 03:07 < aegray> or watch crap movies 03:07 < courtc> but it wasn't. 03:07 < aegray> which suck anyway because theres no sound 03:07 < notaguest> true 03:07 < notaguest> but its still cool to look at 03:07 < notaguest> but not when the color is weird 03:07 < courtc> yea, well... you aren't cool to look at either. 03:08 < notaguest> thanks 03:08 < notaguest> ok then mayb you can help me with this 03:08 < notaguest> Download 2bppconv (http://zsk009.diplomatheband.net/2bppconv) 03:08 < notaguest> that link is dead 03:08 < notaguest> is it mirrored anywhere else? 03:09 < courtc> we need a "You should read these pages before asking any questions" page 03:09 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 03:09 < aegray> add it 03:09 < aegray> and "if you are deemed to have not read, you will be punished severely" 03:10 < coob> in a sunroof 03:10 < courtc> rofl 03:10 < notaguest> why was that a bad ? 03:10 * courtc is going to have nightmares now. 03:10 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/cat.mpg 03:11 < coob> i bet i get DDoSed by a vegan now.... 03:11 < aegray> oh god i've seen that 03:11 * notaguest thanks everyone for the help 03:11 < aegray> the link will be fixed at some point 03:11 < courtc> waht help? 03:11 < aegray> once zsk comes up 03:11 -!- fre_ber_ [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:11 < courtc> capital one sec 03:12 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/2bppconv 03:13 < courtc> you can link to that 03:13 < aegray> k 03:13 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 03:13 < aegray> oh god theres another one up there 03:14 < aegray> not built though 03:14 < aegray> nm 03:14 < notaguest> thanks 03:14 < aegray> thanks courtc 03:14 < courtc> yea, np 03:14 < person> ___________________ _-_ 03:14 < person> \==============_=_/ ____.---'---`---.____ 03:14 < person> \_ \ \----._________.----/ 03:14 < person> \ \ / / `-_-' 03:14 < person> __,--`.`-'..'-_ 03:15 < person> /____ || 03:15 < person> `--.____,-' 03:15 < person> 03:15 < courtc> umm.. 03:15 < joecool> rofl? 03:15 < courtc> nice apple, but please don't do that again? 03:16 < person> its star trek 03:16 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 03:16 < aegray> really? 03:16 < Mike> yeah... and this isn't the Star Trek channel 03:16 < person> oh come on 03:16 < person> hehe 03:16 < courtc> the whole trek. I dont think so. Its clearly an apple. 03:16 < joecool> courtc: shutup, its a taco 03:16 < person> haha 03:17 < coob> ___ ____ ____ ____ ____ _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ 03:17 < coob> |__] |___ |__/ [__ | | |\ | [__ | | \/ 03:17 < coob> | |___ | \ ___] |__| | \| ___] |__| _/\_ 03:17 < person> nice 03:17 < coob> did i paste that out loud 03:17 < aegray> haha 03:17 < person> haha 03:18 < person> mine was better 03:18 < coob> mine had the element of truth in it... 03:18 < person> ooooooooooo 03:18 < courtc> baZING 03:18 < person> ya but you spelled it wrong 03:18 < person> hehe 03:20 < courtc> quit drawing food and do something useful. If you need I can give you a project. 03:20 < person> dude,it was the star ship enterprize 03:20 < person> hehe 03:21 < courtc> etched in an apple? come on, you suck at ascii art and it shows. 03:21 < person> i know i do] 03:21 < joecool> dammit all, can' t you see its a taco!! what are you two on? 03:21 < person> haha 03:22 < Mike> so do i, but I'll show you the un-appropriateness of star trek here 03:22 < Mike> # # i d ll i 03:22 < Mike> ###### d l 03:22 < Mike> # # ii ppp ooo ddd l ii nnn u u x x 03:22 < Mike> ###### i p p o o d d l i n n u u x 03:22 < Mike> # # iiiii ppp ooo ddd lll iiiii n n uuu x x 03:22 < Mike> p 03:22 < person> nice 03:22 < person> took me a while to see what it was 03:23 < joecool> yeah me too, i'd be better if i was more sleep deprived 03:23 < person> haha 03:27 < zsr-> sux 03:27 -!- zsr- [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:28 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:28 < zsr> bah, lets try that again 03:28 < zsr> sux 03:30 < person> later all 03:30 -!- person [~person@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:36 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:43 -!- mage [~mage@S01060007950ade7b.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:43 -!- birostick [stonetaker@18-73.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:43 -!- ryannnn [~tanglewoo@blk-215-127-0.eastlink.ca] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:43 -!- danalien [~danalien@danalien.user] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:44 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:46 -!- danalien [~danalien@danalien.user] has joined #ipodlinux 03:48 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 -!- ryannnn [~tanglewoo@blk-215-127-0.eastlink.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 -!- birostick [stonetaker@18-73.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:54 -!- mage [~mage@S01060007950ade7b.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:03 -!- space_cowboy [~space_cow@208.0.108.158] has joined #ipodlinux 04:04 < space_cowboy> anyone have an ipod mini firmware image? 04:04 < space_cowboy> my pod is b0rked and I don't have a windows box to run the updater software 04:05 < courtc> boy oh boy 04:05 < Egrets> haha 04:05 < space_cowboy> yeah it's good timres 04:05 < courtc> why didn't you make a backup? 04:05 < space_cowboy> *times 04:06 < space_cowboy> it broke before I tried to install anything else on it 04:06 < courtc> uhuh. 04:06 < space_cowboy> gtkpd did something to it or I unplugged it or something dumb 04:06 < aegray> if it broke before you installed anything then its broken at the hardware level 04:07 < space_cowboy> I didn't even know how to make a backup when I screwed it up 04:07 < space_cowboy> hw works fine I can repartition and read and write to it just fine 04:08 < aegray> http://ipodlinux.org/FAQ#Can_you_send_me_firmware_x.y.3F 04:08 < aegray> copy+paste! 04:08 < courtc> :) 04:08 < space_cowboy> how did I guess 04:09 < space_cowboy> grr 04:09 < aegray> use the apple restore utility 04:09 < space_cowboy> if I had a windows or mac box I would 04:09 < aegray> download vmware 04:09 < aegray> get a reshacker 04:09 < aegray> use a reshacker with wine 04:09 < aegray> and get the firmware image you need out 04:10 < aegray> we can't send you anything 04:10 < space_cowboy> any suggestions on reshackers? 04:10 < aegray> no clue. google it windows resource hacker 04:10 < aegray> i've found it before 04:10 < aegray> you can do it 04:10 < aegray> ! 04:10 < space_cowboy> never thought of that before 04:10 < space_cowboy> thnx 04:11 < aegray> yep 04:18 < aegray> does outl send 4 bytes? 04:25 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 04:26 -!- space_cowboy [~space_cow@208.0.108.158] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:29 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 < aegray> hey evildude 04:30 < EvilDude> hey 04:30 < EvilDude> whats up 04:30 < aegray> nomuch 04:30 < courtc> hey EvilDude 04:30 < EvilDude> hey courtc 04:31 < EvilDude> how's your mpd stuff going 04:31 < aegray> hehe 04:31 < courtc> well, got it playing flacs, mp3s and oggs ... well coob did that. but I've been working on an interface for it. 04:32 < EvilDude> oh nice! 04:32 < EvilDude> mp3 using helix as well? 04:33 < courtc> whew.. and I just got mpd to compile with my arm-uclinux-elf toolchain, finally. 04:33 < courtc> yes 04:33 < EvilDude> cool, and what's arm-uclinux-elf same as arm-elf-gcc? 04:33 < EvilDude> that's pretty good, coz I remember he was saying that helix mp3 would be hard 04:35 < EvilDude> so are you gonna work on getting the itunesdb -> mpd stuff as well courtc? 04:36 < courtc> umm.. actually ... 04:36 < EvilDude> i can do it if you tell me how :p 04:36 < EvilDude> like I know how to use libitunesdb 04:36 < EvilDude> but no idea how to use mpd 04:36 < courtc> he volunteered! you heard him.. 04:36 < aegray> i did 04:36 < aegray> hes doing it! 04:36 < EvilDude> haha 04:36 < EvilDude> i'll do it, gotta give me half an hour or so to get some other stuff done 04:36 < EvilDude> but i wanna do stuff :) 04:37 < courtc> k, awesome. 04:37 < EvilDude> i'll be back in a bit, time to try to send a damn fax =\ 04:38 < aegray> how would i cast a function pointer from an int? 04:38 < aegray> would it be func = (void *()) intval? 04:38 < courtc> thats just weird. 04:38 < aegray> haha - anyone know? 04:38 < courtc> yea, that look right ... I think 04:39 < courtc> why though? 04:39 < aegray> trying to patch the fiq to call my function which can then call the fiq and do other stuff) 04:40 < aegray> did that make sense? me talk dumb 04:40 < aegray> so i need a function which points to the original fiq 04:41 < courtc> huh.. 04:43 < aegray> sweet 04:43 < aegray> i guess 04:44 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:45 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:47 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|busy 04:49 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea2d7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 04:58 -!- wannabeskater13 [~chatzilla@68-232-254-55.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:02 -!- person [~person@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:03 < courtc> EvilDude, I don't see a spec for the mpddb format, but it looks damn simple. 05:04 < EvilDude> hmm ok 05:04 < EvilDude> how does it work then 05:04 < courtc> I can send you a couple if you like? 05:04 < EvilDude> ok 05:07 < EvilDude> oh wow that is simple 05:07 < EvilDude> some things look strange like the : 05:07 < EvilDude> Time: 179 05:07 < EvilDude> mtime: 1066974770 05:08 < courtc> time in seconds and modified time (?) unix timestamp 05:08 -!- qingl [~qingl@59.191.49.9] has joined #ipodlinux 05:08 < aegray> do we need to do that or can we just scan the files? 05:08 < EvilDude> ah modified time 05:10 < EvilDude> the structure is a little odd 05:10 < courtc> aegray, we'll probably want to copy the playlists and stuff at the very least. And converting is probably faster than scanning. 05:10 < aegray> ah ok 05:10 < EvilDude> the directory stuff is odd coz it says the directory 05:10 < courtc> Also, probably better if the files don't have id3 tags. 05:10 < EvilDude> and then in the file: it has directory again 05:11 < EvilDude> yeah i like conversion from iTunesDB too 05:11 < EvilDude> much faster I'd say 05:12 -!- qingl [~qingl@59.191.49.9] has left #ipodlinux [] 05:13 < courtc> it uses plain .m3u's for playlists 05:13 < EvilDude> ah ok 05:14 < EvilDude> one problem i see is, are we going to have any way to have the smart playlists 05:14 < courtc> (I think) might be client specific 05:14 < EvilDude> and ratings, play counts etc? 05:15 < courtc> sure, just add a line to the mpddb Rating: (0-5) 05:15 < EvilDude> ah that's good then 05:15 < EvilDude> i'll get used to libitunesdb again and then i'll see about writing the file 05:17 < courtc> smart playlists are like '60 music'? what does that generate from? 05:17 < courtc> id3tags likely. 05:17 < EvilDude> damn 05:17 < EvilDude> I guess we can make on the fly generation of smart playlists .m3u's 05:17 < courtc> can't say. 05:17 < EvilDude> but for now thats not important :) 05:18 < EvilDude> also with the mpd port, will it be easy to make it so the mp3 decoding code runs in iram 05:18 < EvilDude> coz i wanna have decent playback :P 05:19 < aegray> haha i'm retarded 05:19 < aegray> fiq is firing immediatedly 05:20 < courtc> aegray, do you switch projects every day? 05:20 < aegray> yes 05:20 < EvilDude> is that in buffer empty or just not working like expected =\ 05:20 < courtc> heh 05:20 < aegray> i go between them 05:20 < EvilDude> you get sick of one so you do another :P ? 05:20 < joshk> galjksdfjlkskljfasdlkjflkjsd 05:20 < aegray> tomorrow and saturday are off 05:20 < joshk> my DSL is _SHIT_ 05:20 < aegray> sunday = menu code more 05:20 < courtc> EvilDude, what? 05:20 < EvilDude> was talking to aegray 05:20 < EvilDude> got sick of one project 05:20 < EvilDude> so does another :D 05:20 < courtc> (in buffer) 05:21 < aegray> i was manually refiring fiq in video code - fiq was firing but buffer was empty 05:21 < courtc> sunday is a long time away. :/ 05:21 < aegray> but that means its completely blocking 05:21 < aegray> surry - i'll work on it some at lunch tomorrow 05:21 < courtc> haha.. j/k 05:22 < aegray> i just need to put in an array of pointers to nodes in my link list so that we can reference the nodes by index 05:22 < aegray> then i can store file info 05:22 < courtc> would you mind if I played with it? (I don't mind if you do) 05:22 < aegray> ie no blank queue spots 05:22 < aegray> no go right ahead 05:23 < aegray> the click to play needs to be changed so it queues the entire current list rather than just the selected song 05:23 < EvilDude> is sourceforge cvs dead =\ 05:24 < EvilDude> my cvs isnt downloading latest podzilla :( 05:24 < aegray> no 05:24 < aegray> its good 05:24 < EvilDude> ah wait 05:24 < EvilDude> its been too long since i've used cvs 05:24 < aegray> haha 05:24 < EvilDude> i put anonymous@sourceforge.net 05:24 < EvilDude> not cvs.sourceforge 05:25 < aegray> courtc - if you make any changes can you send me a diff to what you currently have just so i can stay up to date? 05:25 < courtc> yea, certainly 05:25 < courtc> just: for (i = 0; i < num && p->next != NULL; p = p->next) 05:26 < aegray> ah yea we could 05:26 < aegray> but thats o(n) lookup 05:26 < aegray> i figured for 3000 songs 05:26 < aegray> that might be too long 05:26 < aegray> but not sure 05:26 < courtc> dunno 05:26 < aegray> is menu loading slow at all? 05:26 < courtc> songs? yea 05:26 < aegray> how about the other ones? 05:27 < courtc> I only have one artist, one album so, no. 05:27 < aegray> ah ok 05:27 < aegray> ok i'm out 05:27 < aegray> night boys 05:27 < courtc> 'night 05:28 < EvilDude> night 05:36 < EvilDude> interesting 05:36 < EvilDude> the place where I thought I could parse has the structure with the correct artist, album, and title, but nothing else =\ 05:37 < courtc> huh. 05:37 < EvilDude> I thought I could get the track information for the file from this function track_add or something 05:37 < EvilDude> well track_cb is the one i was looking at 05:38 < EvilDude> has the itdb_track structure, but nothing except artist, album and genre are filled in 05:38 < EvilDude> So I have to find a better place ;( 05:38 < EvilDude> ah wait I think I know why 05:39 < EvilDude> I have found the key to get all the information :D 05:40 < EvilDude> was as simple as telling the itdb to parse_all and now i get all the information 05:40 < EvilDude> i have modded it currently so that it shows the track information when it parses it 05:40 < EvilDude> using printf("Song is %s",t->path); where t is the itdb_track structure 05:42 < EvilDude> ok a few problems :( 05:42 < courtc> w'sat? 05:42 < EvilDude> well see the mpddb is organised basically completely on the database structure 05:42 < courtc> directory* ? 05:42 < EvilDude> and the parsing on iTunesDB has no relation to the folder structure 05:43 < EvilDude> not sure how I could convert the information i have to mpd efficiently 05:45 < courtc> I believe in you ;) 05:46 < EvilDude> rofl 05:46 < EvilDude> i dont like this mpd structure so much anymore :P 05:50 < EvilDude> how can i make a function inline? 05:50 < aegray> inline 05:50 < EvilDude> yeah i know that :P 05:50 < EvilDude> i mean where =\ 05:50 < EvilDude> i have a static void function 05:50 < EvilDude> in the front? 05:50 < aegray> inline void func() 05:50 < aegray> static inline void func() 05:50 < EvilDude> ah ok 05:50 < aegray> ok bed for real 05:50 < aegray> haha 05:50 < EvilDude> ty 05:50 < EvilDude> and night again ;) 05:51 -!- Egrets [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:51 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:51 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.54.130.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 < EvilDude> this sucks =\ 05:54 < EvilDude> i dont know how i can make an efficient itunesdb -> mpddb if it has to be by directory 05:55 < EvilDude> also is the whole database organised nicely / sorted? 05:55 < courtc> well just make one without worrying about effencieny 05:55 < EvilDude> I dont know if I could even make one like that :P 05:56 < EvilDude> is there no way to tell mpd to add a track to it's database? 05:56 < courtc> ugh. efficiency. see? I can spell! 05:56 < EvilDude> haha 05:56 < courtc> EvilDude, yea there is. 05:56 < EvilDude> Why cant we just clear the whole database and then do that 05:56 < EvilDude> coz I think that would be a lot easier 05:58 < courtc> oh wait. no there isn't 05:58 < EvilDude> :| 05:58 < EvilDude> damn it 05:58 < EvilDude> you gave me hope 05:58 < courtc> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonCommands#Database_Commands sorry 05:59 < EvilDude> hmm ok 06:00 < EvilDude> hmm I'm wondernig 06:00 < EvilDude> does mpd allow importing of m3u? 06:00 < EvilDude> Coz m3u's are a LOT easier to write than this mpddb 06:00 < courtc> haha, don't think so 06:00 < EvilDude> damn it! 06:01 < EvilDude> I dont wanna / dont think I could reorganise the iTunesDB by data :( 06:02 < EvilDude> I think an add command would work actually 06:02 < EvilDude> coz if the file isnt already in the database it would add it 06:02 < EvilDude> but then it wouldnt need the iTunesDB information which screws it over 06:08 < EvilDude> courtc: can you try something 06:09 < courtc> possibly 06:09 < EvilDude> for the mpd db 06:09 < EvilDude> can you see if it all works ok 06:09 < EvilDude> if say the directory name as just random :P 06:10 < courtc> ? 06:11 < EvilDude> ok dont worry 06:11 < EvilDude> i'll try doing it properly 06:11 < EvilDude> I was just wondering if mpd even used the directory properly 06:11 < EvilDude> coz its pretty much useless seeing the filename has it 06:12 < courtc> well you can sort/search by directory 06:13 < EvilDude> ok this is gonna take a while 06:13 < EvilDude> I'm making a whole database for the track stuff 06:13 < EvilDude> and then i write teh file from that =\ 06:15 < EvilDude> ok this is bs 06:15 < EvilDude> the itunesdb has to be resorted by the path 06:15 < EvilDude> and then written 06:15 < EvilDude> now i have no idea how i can do that =\ 06:15 < EvilDude> i was going to try something 06:15 < EvilDude> but then i realised it had to go through subdirectories etc properly too =\ 06:16 < courtc> the ipod has no subdirectories. 06:16 < courtc> just f00 through f19 (or f49 06:16 < EvilDude> so its ok if i just assume they'll be in fxx folders? 06:16 < EvilDude> yeah 06:16 < EvilDude> i thought we might have to assume other gay ones 06:17 < EvilDude> I'm pretty sure programs let you build from your own structure 06:17 < courtc> really? 06:17 < EvilDude> pretty sure 06:18 < EvilDude> i think even ephpod lets you do that 06:18 < EvilDude> how about this, I'll make an m3u out of the data 06:18 < EvilDude> and you take care of converting to mpd data :P 06:18 < courtc> sure. 06:19 < EvilDude> woot. 06:19 < EvilDude> you rule ;) 06:19 < courtc> but it needs to contain artist, album, time etc. 06:19 < EvilDude> yep 06:19 < EvilDude> I'll make it contain whatever 06:19 < EvilDude> and what structure do you want? 06:19 < EvilDude> I can make it anything 06:19 < EvilDude> not sorted at all though ;) 06:20 < EvilDude> actually i think rather than that 06:20 < EvilDude> it'd be a waste of time writing a file, readnig it, and writing another 06:20 < EvilDude> is this alright: 06:20 < EvilDude> static inline void mpd_add_track(struct itdb_track * t) 06:20 < courtc> yea, I was going to take your code finish it. 06:20 < EvilDude> that function gets all the data 06:20 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 06:20 < EvilDude> t->path = path, t->artist = artist 06:20 < courtc> sure. 06:21 < EvilDude> well then i really didnt do much :P 06:21 < EvilDude> i'm done already =\ 06:21 < courtc> heh. 06:22 < EvilDude> i'll send you new itunes_db.c 06:22 < EvilDude> the function mpd_add_track is right up the top 06:23 < EvilDude> to make the database build without showing any of the album lists etc like it does now, just call db_init((void *)NULL); 06:24 -!- Error_404 [~gentoo@70.70.91.128] has joined #ipodlinux 06:24 < EvilDude> anything else simple that i can do :P ? 06:25 < courtc> umm.. add sort by genre support to libmpdclient? (or ping support) 06:25 < EvilDude> i'll have a go 06:25 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/libmpdclient.tar.gz 06:26 < courtc> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonCommands#ping 06:26 < courtc> ping should be dead simple. 06:27 < EvilDude> haha ok 06:27 < z3ro> okay, I just got myself a first generation ipod mini. If I only want it to run linux, I only need two partitions - the boot block (1 cylinder) and the rest can be for linux? 06:27 < courtc> umm... yea, you can do that if you really want to. 06:28 < z3ro> good :) 06:28 < joecool|busy> no you can't.. even the mac ipods have 3 partitions 06:29 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:29 < z3ro> I only want to run linux, no dual-boot with mac's firmware. 06:29 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:29 < joecool|busy> yeah, you can do that 06:29 < joecool|busy> with 2 partitions 06:29 < courtc> ... isn't that what I just said? 06:30 < joecool|busy> i misunderstood the wording of the question 06:30 < z3ro> I was asking joecool|busy since he said "no you can't.. even the mac ipods have 3 partitions" 06:30 < courtc> I know. 06:30 < z3ro> okay 06:30 < joecool|busy> my bad 06:30 < z3ro> heh, no problem 06:33 < EvilDude> hmm 06:33 < EvilDude> I should really install mpd / use it on my system 06:33 < EvilDude> so that i can learn how it works 06:33 < joecool|busy> ditto 06:38 -!- urbanvanilla [~vanilla@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 06:39 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit ["x11 restart"] 06:41 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:41 -!- Error_404 [~gentoo@70.70.91.128] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 06:42 -!- fies [~asdf@p213.54.204.110.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 06:42 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["."] 06:43 < EvilDude> how do i make mpd work :| 06:43 < courtc> set up a config file. 06:43 < EvilDude> doesnt seem to let me create a db 06:43 < EvilDude> ah so i have to make one myself first 06:43 < fies> has someone running linux on 4g? does the playback work? on my 4g 40gb ipod with podzilla it doesn't work in realtime 06:44 < courtc> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonExampleConfig 06:45 -!- person [~person@24-113-19-19.wavecable.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:45 < EvilDude> seems i have to get it from my tarball 06:46 < fies> is the link 4 me? :( hum i'm newbie 06:46 < EvilDude> no 06:47 < fies> nobody knows why 4g podzilla can't play mp3s :( ?! 06:48 < EvilDude> coz you didnt update your stuff 06:48 < fies> i did. have podzilla 06.06 and newest win installer 06:49 < fies> do i have to edit or change any settings? i jsut installed and tried my luck -> my english is worse :D 06:49 < EvilDude> you have to do it manually 06:49 < EvilDude> courtc: i've got my conf set up, it's added stuff to my db, but how do i actually make it run 06:50 < courtc> just: 'mpd' its a daemon, so it'll fork. 06:50 < EvilDude> oh wait it's already running, just on the wrong port it seems 06:51 < EvilDude> i've set it to 6000 now so it should work :) 06:51 < courtc> you'll need a client: mpc, glurp, and gmpc are good choices. 06:51 < EvilDude> oh wait its 6600 =\ 06:51 < EvilDude> yeah i got gmpc 06:51 < EvilDude> but i wanna just play with the example 06:51 < EvilDude> which wants mpd on 6600 06:52 < courtc> ? 06:52 < EvilDude> The libmpdclient 06:52 < EvilDude> i wanted to see what it does, and it couldnt see mpd coz it was checking on 600 06:52 < EvilDude> 6600* 06:52 < courtc> oh 06:53 < EvilDude> for some reason mine was on 2000 06:53 < EvilDude> thats all good now 06:54 < EvilDude> time to actually make it do stuff and see how this libmpdclient works 06:55 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/podzilla-mpdc.tar.gz 06:55 < courtc> look in mpdc/* 06:55 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 06:56 -!- tlg_ is now known as tlg 06:57 -!- joecool|busy is now known as joecool|sleep 06:58 -!- fies [~asdf@p213.54.204.110.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [] 06:59 < EvilDude> interesting 06:59 < EvilDude> seems md is dead 06:59 < EvilDude> and killall cant kill it 06:59 < courtc> -9 07:00 < EvilDude> what does that do? 07:00 < courtc> sends another signal ;) 07:00 < courtc> man kill 07:00 < EvilDude> ah, 07:01 < EvilDude> well i just rebooted my vmware instead lol 07:01 < EvilDude> fresh start 07:01 < EvilDude> I was able to run mpd successfully 07:01 < EvilDude> and i ran glurp connected, added a song to a playlist 07:01 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 07:01 < EvilDude> all that was fine, and then I tried to play the song 07:01 < EvilDude> and it died :( 07:02 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:05 < EvilDude> ok this sucks 07:05 < EvilDude> i cant play any music for some reason 07:05 < Synapse-> You suck. 07:05 < Synapse-> That's the problem. 07:06 < courtc> Watch it. 07:07 * Synapse- sits back down 07:07 < jchillerup> Is there a way to avoid 'malloc' errors? 07:09 < EvilDude> seems the ao_driver needs to be alsa09 :S 07:10 < EvilDude> ok maybe that doesnt work either 07:10 < EvilDude> i really hate vmware 07:11 < jchillerup> I don't 07:11 < jchillerup> VMware is goood 07:11 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 07:11 < EvilDude> i like it at times too 07:11 < EvilDude> its times like these 07:11 < EvilDude> when mpd doesnt play even though it should be 07:19 < EvilDude> ok i give up for now 07:20 < EvilDude> mpd wont work 07:20 < EvilDude> tried so many things :( 07:30 < EvilDude> courtc: any luck with the itunesdb stuff? 07:31 < courtc> nah, haven't gotten to it yet. working on queue management atm. 07:31 < EvilDude> ah ok 07:31 < EvilDude> what are you working on, the mpdc client thing? 07:31 < courtc> yea 07:32 < EvilDude> i can code the ping thing without havnig to play music cant i 07:32 < courtc> should be able to. 07:32 < EvilDude> i'll try that :) 08:06 < EvilDude> ping sucks. :( 08:06 < EvilDude> i tried to do stuff 08:06 < EvilDude> it doesnt return anything :| 08:06 < courtc> huh.. 08:06 < EvilDude> well this is what i do 08:06 < courtc> well that won't work then will it? 08:07 < EvilDude> hmm the thing is 08:07 < EvilDude> instead of ping, i do status 08:07 < EvilDude> and it works fine, gets return and stuff 08:07 < courtc> Guess we can keep using the current method. 08:07 < EvilDude> as in, i replace in my ping code, the send command of status with ping =\ 08:07 < EvilDude> do the mpd_executecommand("ping\n") doesnt work, same with "status\n" works fine :( 08:07 < EvilDude> ah well 08:07 < courtc> yea, my method is checking for a NULL status return. 08:08 < EvilDude> ah ok 08:08 < EvilDude> maybe im checking it wrong 08:08 < EvilDude> i'm checking every return element 08:08 < EvilDude> and there's none after a ping 08:08 < courtc> It works, but ping would probably be easier. (if it worked) 08:08 < EvilDude> yeah :( 08:08 < EvilDude> well what's the other thing 08:08 < courtc> thats cool, thanks for trying. 08:09 < EvilDude> no problems 08:09 < EvilDude> anything else i can try? 08:09 < courtc> nat atm. 08:09 < courtc> not* 08:09 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 08:09 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.54.130.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:10 < courtc> I got the play queue to act like a queue now :) it has move(atm a no-op) and remove 08:11 < EvilDude> cool! 08:11 < courtc> and now I don't need to restart podzilla or queue all songs :) 08:11 < EvilDude> haha 08:12 < EvilDude> how is the actual browse system? it works? 08:12 < courtc> yea 08:12 < courtc> a little buggy still 08:12 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 08:14 < EvilDude> what about the browse by genres thing? 08:15 < courtc> yea, not that ;) we have artist, album and song so far. 08:15 < EvilDude> haha, is browse by genre hard to add? 08:16 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:16 < courtc> libmpdclient doesn't have a list by genre thang 08:17 < EvilDude> copy paste artist with genre wont work :P ? 08:17 < courtc> nope. 08:17 < EvilDude> aw damn, mpd doesnt support genre the same way it does with artists :( ? 08:18 < courtc> dunno about mpd, but libmpdclient doesnt have a hook for it. 08:23 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:24 < EvilDude> courtc: how do i make it list all the songs and it's properties =\ 08:25 < EvilDude> i want to see if mpd even sends the genre info 08:27 < courtc> listallinfo 08:27 < z3ro> does the uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.patch patch apply to the vanilla 2.4.24 kernel? 08:27 < courtc> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonCommands#listallinfo says: "Genre" 08:28 < EvilDude> interesting 08:28 < EvilDude> I think with some good copying and pasting of the artists code 08:28 < EvilDude> you can get genres working then ;) 08:28 < courtc> thats the idea 08:28 < EvilDude> hehe 08:29 < courtc> first apply uclinux-2.4.24-uc0, then you'll probably want to use cvs rather than that old patch 08:29 < z3ro> courtc: okay, thanks 08:29 < z3ro> I didn't know the patch was out of date. 08:30 < courtc> we're on ipod4 build #174 ;) 08:30 < courtc> (on bern's tree) 08:31 < z3ro> I'm just getting linux and tools from the sf.net ipodlinux cvs. 08:33 < EvilDude> hmm I think I've figured something out 08:33 < EvilDude> the listallinfo only gives information it has for the track 08:33 < EvilDude> and so im not getting any genre 08:34 < EvilDude> so if i modify my db to have genre... 08:37 < EvilDude> interesting... it doesnt like my genre line 08:38 < EvilDude> what is the genre supposed to be in the .mpddb, does it have to be a number for the genre or any string 08:39 < courtc> theres a list of valid genres in some specs. 08:39 < EvilDude> oh damn so we cant have whatever we want :( 08:40 < EvilDude> i organise all my music for apple through genres though =\ my own genres 08:40 < EvilDude> like "Best" "My Music" etc :( 08:41 * courtc shrugs 08:41 < EvilDude> hmm i guess i can look at that later 08:42 < EvilDude> nothing else for me to do i think 08:42 < EvilDude> do you have anything for me to do :P? 08:42 < courtc> heh, not without overlapping what I'm doing.. unless you want some real grunt work. 08:43 < EvilDude> haha na dont think i could do it 08:43 < EvilDude> well i'll be back later then 08:43 < courtc> (creating a toolchain with uclibc locale support) 08:43 < EvilDude> rofl 08:43 < EvilDude> i dont think i could create a toolchain 08:43 < EvilDude> let alone one with uclibc locale support :P 08:43 < courtc> I tried and failed. :( 08:44 < EvilDude> haha you failed, i have no chance! 08:44 < z3ro> courtc, EvilDude: use buildroot 08:44 < z3ro> buildroot.uclibc.org 08:44 -!- xaviercr [~xaviercr6@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:45 < EvilDude> would it work for the locale support stuff? 08:45 < courtc> z3ro, already did. didn't have a bunch of other stuff we need.. :/ 08:45 < z3ro> courtc: I see, you patch the toolchain? 08:46 < z3ro> EvilDude: it uses a mneuconfig system, like the linux kernel. 08:46 < EvilDude> i have no idea haha, i'll bbs, cya 08:47 < courtc> yea, can't remember what was wrong with it. I have it lying around here still .. somewhere .. 08:48 < courtc> hmm.. uclinux.org is down? 08:49 < z3ro> I can't resolve it's dns. 08:49 < z3ro> just when I need a patch from there... :( 08:49 < z3ro> if anyone here can get uclinux.org and tell me te ip address? 08:50 -!- vek[a] [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:50 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:50 < courtc> capital one second 08:52 < Fenix-Dark> yea, i cant even ping it 08:52 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/uClinux-2.4.24-uc0.diff.gz 08:52 * courtc filestore 08:53 * courtc hidden mirror for * ipodlinux 09:00 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/mpdc/ podzilla and podzilla-mpdc.tar.gz updated for anyone who cares. 09:00 < courtc> nighty-nite 09:03 < EvilDude> night cour 09:03 < EvilDude> night courtc * 09:04 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 09:08 < z3ro> what are the toolchain settings for the PP5020? 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10:14 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 10:19 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:22 -!- Petterminator [p@56.180.32.ip.nordiq.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 < EvilDude> you can do something like arm-elf-gcc -v or something cant you 10:31 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:31 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:31 < z3ro> EvilDude: I'm not using the toolchain on the sf.net site. 10:31 < EvilDude> didnt you want to know the version 10:31 < EvilDude> i think doing -v gets version 10:32 < z3ro> I do want to know the version, yes. 10:32 < EvilDude> they do the arm-elf-gcc -v :) 10:32 < z3ro> but iirc the toolchain on sf.net is only for win32 and osx... 10:32 < EvilDude> hmm 10:32 < EvilDude> i didnt know that 10:32 < EvilDude> http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/arm-elf-tools/arm-elf-tools-20030314.sh 10:33 < EvilDude> thats for linux 10:36 < z3ro> I can't get to uclinux.org, so I assume that is a script to download and compile the 20030314 snapshot? 10:39 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:39 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 10:41 < nilss> re 10:45 < nilss> i'm at reboot7 atm. is there a podzilla.bin with the videoplayer so i can show it here? :) 10:48 -!- DucatiDesmoSedic [~DucatiDes@host51-120.pool82104.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 10:59 -!- JBerlin [~Email@ool-43546934.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:01 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:01 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:04 < EvilDude> nills: latest kernel + podzilla from cvs will work fine 11:04 < EvilDude> get the nightlies 11:05 < EvilDude> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 11:05 < EvilDude> they should work fine 11:05 < EvilDude> z3ro : sorry forgot that site was down 11:05 < EvilDude> guess you'll have to wait :( 11:06 < z3ro> EvilDude: for the patches, yes, but maybe it will work without them... I got the source directory listing from google's cache, so I know which versions to get of ftp.gnu.org... 11:06 < EvilDude> ah ok 11:07 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:07 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:10 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:10 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:12 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 11:26 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-69-150.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 11:33 < nilss> EvilDude: how long do the videos take to load? 11:35 < z3ro> hmm... this looks bad, my ipod mini is just displaying the apple logo on it's screen, doing nothing else. 11:35 < z3ro> can the apple restore utility fix this? 11:35 < tsk> yawn. 11:35 -!- JBerlin [~Email@ool-43546934.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:35 < tsk> that was in the faq i think. 11:36 < coob> z3ro: yeah put it in disk mode 11:36 < z3ro> coob: how do I do that? 11:36 < z3ro> I tried pressing both the left and right buttons, which did not work. 11:36 < z3ro> iirc that was what the wiki said. 11:36 < coob> reset with holding select and menu 11:36 < coob> nope thats reset for 3g and under 11:36 < EvilDude> nilss: shouldnt take very long, they load within 2 or 3 seconds 11:37 < coob> then hold select and play 11:37 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 11:38 < EvilDude> hey coob 11:38 < EvilDude> i heard you got the helix mp3 stuff and ogg into mpd :) 11:39 < nilss> EvilDude: ah i tried a beta kernel and it worked 11:39 < EvilDude> good :) 11:39 < EvilDude> are they impressed ;) :P 11:40 < nilss> haven't shown them yet, theres a presentation atm 11:40 < EvilDude> ah ok 11:40 < EvilDude> tell us how it goes 11:41 < nilss> yea, hmm i think i should make a video using my digital camera :) 11:41 < nilss> brb 11:42 < coob> heh nilss you should show them ogg's playing while you play tetris :) 11:42 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:42 < coob> EvilDude: yeah really basic helix mp3 playing is in there 11:42 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:43 < _KDE> is music playing and doing other things alreday possible? I thought you had some trouble with the 2nd processor of the ipod? 11:43 < EvilDude> you can do more than one thing at once :S ? 11:43 < _KDE> *at the same time 11:43 * EvilDude is behind 11:44 < coob> it's possible if you're a dev :) 11:44 < coob> and are using mpd... 11:44 < _KDE> is there a beta out which supports this? 11:44 < EvilDude> does it actually use the second proc, or just the first one is good enough for both (:@ damn you 4gers!) 11:44 < coob> yes but there's no way i'm going to walk you through the complex installation. 11:45 < coob> no cop usage 11:45 < EvilDude> ah ok 11:45 < EvilDude> damn that first proc is doing good 11:45 < _KDE> what is complex in the installation? can't I just update the kernel the usual way? 11:45 < EvilDude> its installation of mpd 11:45 < coob> no. 11:45 < EvilDude> thats the evil part =\ 11:45 < EvilDude> although i managed to set it up on my computer today but it decided to be a bitch and not work 11:46 < coob> heh 11:46 < EvilDude> stupid vmware :( 11:46 < EvilDude> hmm coob: any config for the mpd or do we have to make our own config if we wanna use it? 11:46 < coob> heh evildude you're good with libitunedbs 11:46 < EvilDude> haha i already did some stuff :P 11:46 < EvilDude> this is all i could do though 11:46 < coob> write a itunesdb -> mpddb parser :) 11:47 < EvilDude> there is a function called mpd_add_track(itdb * track) { --- } 11:47 < EvilDude> you have to write the function to convert to the mpd db 11:47 < EvilDude> I managed to make it so on db load of iTunesDB, it calls that function for every track :) 11:47 < EvilDude> but unfortunately i suck at sorting and stuff which is necessary for the mpd db (sorted by directory etc) 11:48 < coob> hey neat 11:48 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:48 < EvilDude> shall i send you the itunes_db.c file, coz i sent to courtc 11:49 < coob> sure 11:49 < EvilDude> (also, once we actually replace the menus in podzilla, we have to add db_init((void *)NULL); to the start of podzilla to load iTunesDB) 11:49 < coob> heh the mpdc stuff in podzilla needs some reworking yet 11:50 < EvilDude> ah damn, how come 11:50 < EvilDude> is it slow? 11:50 < coob> no just awkward 11:50 < coob> see thing is 11:50 < EvilDude> yeah 11:50 < coob> podzilla doesn't need itunesdb stuff any more 11:50 < coob> as mpd handles allt he db stuff 11:51 < EvilDude> yeah, that can be fixed though 11:51 < EvilDude> all that's needed is the converting the itunesdb to mpddb on startup 11:51 < EvilDude> then clear memory of itunesdb completely and use mpd from there 11:51 < coob> heh can do that based on files already 11:51 < EvilDude> I was also thinking, once we make it a bit better, we can make on the fly smart playlists as m3u or something 11:51 < coob> but using itunesdb would be quicker :) 11:51 < EvilDude> yeah but scanning >3k songs is alot slower than converting 11:51 < EvilDude> yeah 11:51 < coob> no 11:51 < coob> mpd has its own playlisting stuff 11:52 < EvilDude> even smart playlists? 11:52 < coob> hey can you use libitunesdb to search by file 11:52 < EvilDude> no you cant :( 11:52 < coob> um smart playlists just appear as normal playlists on my ipod. 11:53 < _KDE> yxaeh, they arent updated on the ipod only in itunes :-( 11:53 < EvilDude> for smart playlists what *should* happen is, say i have one for 5 rated songs, i rate it to 4, next time i go to playlist, the song should be gone 11:53 < EvilDude> i know some things are updated 11:53 < EvilDude> like last played works for sure 11:53 < EvilDude> i used to have "random" playlists, that chose songs not played in last few days 11:53 < EvilDude> and it worked well :) 11:53 < tanq> it might be time to put ipl on my ipod again.. 11:54 < tanq> heh 11:54 < EvilDude> haha 11:54 < _KDE> do smart playlists work in apple os or ipl? for me they dont work in apple os 11:54 < coob> they're static for me in ipl 11:55 < coob> work in apple os for me 11:55 < _KDE> for me in apple os ,too :S 11:55 < EvilDude> yeah they work in apple 11:55 < EvilDude> i want them to work in ipl but not sure mpd can handle that 11:55 < _KDE> for me they dont :S 11:56 < _KDE> do they really work in apple os for you? 11:56 < coob> of course. 11:56 < EvilDude> haha yes they do 11:57 < _KDE> bvut y dont they for me? 11:57 < nilss> http://www.flickr.com/photos/13132643@N00/18507349/ 11:57 < EvilDude> haha again! nice 11:57 < coob> nice one :D 12:00 < _KDE> is this maybe a bug in 4g firmware? i dunno... 12:00 < _KDE> im confused :S 12:00 < coob> sounds more like an error between the keyboard and the chair 12:00 < EvilDude> _KDE: make a playlist with songs not played in he last 3 days or something 12:00 < EvilDude> haha 12:00 < EvilDude> smart playlist with live updating on 12:00 < EvilDude> and then sync with iPod 12:00 < EvilDude> limit that playlist to like 5 12:00 < EvilDude> anyway sync 12:00 < EvilDude> go to iPod 12:00 < EvilDude> go to playlist, play a song 12:00 < EvilDude> now skip to end of song using centre scrub thing 12:00 < EvilDude> let song end, 12:01 < EvilDude> now go to playlists menu, and select that playlist again 12:01 < EvilDude> and that song should be gone 12:01 < _KDE> just checked, live updating is on 12:01 < EvilDude> yep 12:02 < _KDE> but doesnt work 12:02 < EvilDude> :| 12:02 < EvilDude> well your iPod is fkd then 12:02 < EvilDude> another reason for iPL :D 12:02 < _KDE> yeah 12:03 < EvilDude> anyway 12:03 < _KDE> is this normal on 4gs or is really sth wrong with my ipod? 12:03 < EvilDude> coob: do you know if mpd supports smart playlists? 12:03 < EvilDude> _KDE: probably the firmware 12:05 < EvilDude> im gonna try this mpd stuff on my iPod 12:05 < EvilDude> coob: whats the difference between mpd and mpd-test 12:06 < coob> mpd only has flac in it 12:06 < EvilDude> ah ok 12:06 < EvilDude> thanks 12:06 < coob> mpd-test has ogg and mp3 12:06 < coob> http://coob.org/mpd-mad <-- uses mad mp3, you need this to update/create the db 12:06 < EvilDude> woot i'll try that 12:07 < EvilDude> oh ok 12:07 < EvilDude> ty 12:07 < coob> http://coob.org/mpd-test <-- has helix mp3, will sigsegv if you try doing db stuff with mp3s 12:07 < coob> both have ogg tremor stuff in it but i dunno if your box can handle it heh 12:08 < coob> box/ipod 12:09 < EvilDude> so make db using mad, and then play them using mpd-test interesting 12:10 < EvilDude> hmm i'll try a once off script which runs mpd-mad --create-db then killall -9 mpding it, and then run the mpd-test 12:11 < EvilDude> i bet it'll fk up too 12:13 < EvilDude> mpd.conf goes into ~/ right? 12:13 < EvilDude> oh wait it can be in /etc/ 12:13 < EvilDude> i'll put it there 12:14 < _KDE> i dont want to annoy you devs but is there are working version of precompiled libitunesdb(for podzilla) for cygwin available? 12:15 < _KDE> the one on the wiki doesnt work 12:16 < coob> nope. 12:16 < coob> EvilDude: um no need for killing 12:16 < coob> it exits after you create the db 12:19 < _KDE> no working libitunesdb? y? :( 12:19 < coob> because cygwin sucks? get a real os. 12:22 < BleuLlama> ZING 12:23 < coob> flac playback truely rules :) 12:26 < tsk> cygwin is a waste of time. 12:26 < EvilDude> coob in the podzilla (for mpd im assuming) can i go to any menu 12:26 < EvilDude> or should i go playlists or songs or something 12:27 < coob> songs 12:27 < coob> oh hey, make sure you have ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 in your rc before mpd launches 12:28 < coob> and 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/hosts 12:28 < EvilDude> haha holy crap 12:28 < EvilDude> i give up now :P 12:28 < EvilDude> accessing /etc/hosts = pain on windows 12:28 < EvilDude> I really really should use linux :( 12:30 < _KDE> i've got suse 9.1 too, but the arm-elf linker doesnt work 12:31 < tsk> winnt/hosts.sam or something? 12:31 < EvilDude> i want to access the iPod's file though 12:31 < tsk> oh. 12:31 < EvilDude> interesting, seems i'll have to build my own podzilla to connect to 127.0.0.1 rather than localhost =\ unless i can get the /etc/hosts file changed 12:32 < _KDE> cant you change it with viP ;) 12:32 < EvilDude> haha 12:33 < EvilDude> is there anything in the /etc/hosts file ? 12:38 < EvilDude> hmm coob do you know if mpd move will make it easier for the kernel devs to make audio decoding run in iram? 12:50 < BleuLlama> i don't see how it could. mpd is for playing only, afaik 12:52 < coob> um nope 12:55 < EvilDude> i was hoping that somehoe it forced all the cars + code to be in one place and somehow make it easier to run from iram :p 12:56 < coob> nope 12:56 < EvilDude> what's needed for that 12:56 < coob> something complicated 12:56 < coob> davidc's the man for that 12:56 < EvilDude> haha realised that 12:57 < EvilDude> damn =\ 12:57 < EvilDude> i hope he isnt so busy anymore 12:58 * nilss have showed the videoplayer now to some people :) 12:58 < nilss> all of them were impressed :) 12:58 < EvilDude> hehe cool 12:58 < EvilDude> :D 12:59 < EvilDude> I'm guessing you showed them the iPod ads? 13:06 < z3ro> odd... I just installed the binaries of ipodlinux on the ipod mini (can't get to uclinux.org to download the source for the toochain so I can compile my own.) and it gets stuck at the ipodlinux logo 13:06 < z3ro> I thought it would output the boot messages to the lcd frame buffer? 13:07 < BleuLlama> sounds like you either screwed up the firmware or it's a 2nd gen mini 13:08 < z3ro> the second generation versions have the size written on the back, correct? 13:08 < z3ro> my one does not. 13:08 < BleuLlama> then you screwed up installation of the firmware 13:08 < z3ro> it was done just like the wiki page says... 13:09 < z3ro> except I did not include the mac firmware in the make_fw process. 13:09 < BleuLlama> um. there you go 13:09 < z3ro> it should work fine with the bootloader and the linux kernel. 13:10 < BleuLlama> why would you not want apple firmware? linux doesn't powerdown at all. you need to boot apple firmware to put it to sleep 13:10 < BleuLlama> besides, you need it for that process. 13:10 < BleuLlama> otherwise it will just hang at the apple logo 13:11 < z3ro> it's booting to the linux framebuffer... 13:11 < BleuLlama> just do the make_fw step with apple firmware in it, and it will work. that's your only solution 13:11 < BleuLlama> just do it 13:12 * BleuLlama afk 13:25 < z3ro> does anyone else know what might be wrong... you should not need apple's os for it to boot... 13:26 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:27 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-69-150.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Rebooting to linux"] 13:30 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-180.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 < BleuLlama> just do it exactly as the docs suggest, and it *will* work. 13:31 < BleuLlama> you need apple's firmware to be present. 13:31 < z3ro> exactly why is that then? 13:31 < BleuLlama> ipl has no sleep/power management. 13:31 < BleuLlama> when you're done using it, you will need to boot to apple firmware to put it to sleep 13:32 < z3ro> and this affects the kernel booting how? it's a minor usability bug. 13:32 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-69-150.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 13:32 < BleuLlama> this is not a pc. 13:33 < z3ro> no, it's an embedded arm device... what is your point? 13:34 < BleuLlama> you can't just decide which firmwares to run. it's not like you can have *just* ipl on it. it needs apple firmware in place to boot. end of discussion. yuou can decide to not have apple in there, but you will never be able to get it to boot anything. 13:35 < z3ro> I can see why most people would want to have the apple firmware, so they can switch to it to turn the ipod off - but this does not affect linux booting... 13:35 < BleuLlama> it's not like a pc where you can have windows or linux or bsd or beos... you need Apple firmware *and* (another firmware) 13:35 < BleuLlama> but it needs to be there in order for ipl to boot 13:36 < BleuLlama> it's like having an oldworld mac. you can install BSD or linux on it, but it needs a tiny MacOS 8 or 9 partition to be on it so that it can jump into the linux booting procedure 13:36 < BleuLlama> without that hook, it can't do anything 13:37 < z3ro> hmm, I see... so it's the firmware on the flash that causes this... well, I guess bug. 13:37 < z3ro> okay, I'll try with the apple firmware too. 13:37 < BleuLlama> it's not a bug 13:37 < BleuLlama> we're not changing the core firmware of the device. the boot loader hooks in (iirc) to the apple firmware 13:38 < BleuLlama> it would be as if lilo was called from config.sys or autoexec.bat 13:38 < BleuLlama> you need to have the dos boot stuff in place so that you could jump to linux 13:38 < z3ro> I do not know windows. 13:38 < BleuLlama> that's basic dos/windows stuff. you've got to know that. 13:38 < BleuLlama> stop playing dumb 13:38 < BleuLlama> anyway. i'm out of here 13:39 < BleuLlama> have fun with it. 13:39 < _KDE> lilo needs dos? 13:39 < z3ro> err... I only use linux. 13:39 < BleuLlama> KDE: I was sayhing "it's as if..." 13:39 < _KDE> oh k 13:41 < coob> z3ro i'm not sure if make_fw will work corrrectly without apple firmware 13:41 < z3ro> yeah 13:41 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-69-150.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 13:42 < coob> there's patch_fw somewhere in cvs 13:42 < z3ro> coob: and this does? 13:42 < coob> loads a bin 13:42 < coob> i.e. a kernel :) 13:42 < z3ro> without the need for the apple os? 13:43 < z3ro> or still requires it? 13:43 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:43 < coob> why are you so against using the apple fw? 13:43 < z3ro> I prefer to use opensource software. 13:44 < BleuLlama> (on closed hardware. nice.) 13:44 < z3ro> BleuLlama: most hardware is closed 13:44 < z3ro> you try getting the verilog for 13:44 < coob> um 13:44 < coob> that tux logo 13:45 -!- DucatiDesmoSedic [~DucatiDes@host51-120.pool82104.interbusiness.it] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong"] 13:45 < coob> isn't the linux framebuffer 13:45 < z3ro> or for that matter, the schematics 13:45 < coob> make_fw brings that up 13:45 < z3ro> coob: yeah, I just noticed that 14:00 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:07 -!- mgla [~mgla@p508C4847.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:19 -!- joecool|sleep is now known as joecool 14:24 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:25 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 < joecool> don't see the point of a phone dialer.. but so what its one of those things you can say "hey, i got IPL and i can use it to dial phones!" 14:30 < aegray> why do you care? If you don't like it, don't use it 14:30 < aegray> some might like it 14:30 < aegray> and obviously Bleullama wanted it 14:30 < coob> and BleuLlama is mor eimportant than you. 14:30 < aegray> amen 14:32 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 14:33 < joecool> i didn't say it was bad.. i'm just sayin its funny all the random stuff thats now in IPL 14:33 < aegray> thats the point of ipl - anyone can add in anything they want so that we have a ton of feaures taht can't be found in the main apple os 14:34 < coob> yes yes hilarious. 14:34 < joecool> thats cool, amusing though :P 14:34 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:43 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-65-86.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:46 < Sereroku> what is the dialer.c for? ^^ 14:46 < aegray> dials phone numbers 14:46 < aegray> once we have address book support, you can use it to dial numbers for you 14:46 < Sereroku> o_O 14:47 < Sereroku> and whats then? 14:47 < Sereroku> when u dialed? 14:47 < Sereroku> ^^ 14:47 < aegray> huh? 14:47 < _KDE> you can here sounds , very interesting ^^ 14:47 < Sereroku> wow 14:48 < _KDE> i think the dialer would be a little bit more interesting when the sounds would be made by the pizo 14:48 < jchillerup> Heh.. Phones work with tones, as you know. And it doesn't matter if it's the buttons or an ipod that makes the tones 14:48 < aegray> you can't produce multiple tones at once out the piezo 14:49 < _KDE> multiple at once? 14:49 < jchillerup> what is the piezo used for by the apple firmware 14:49 < aegray> yes - dtmf is dual tone multi frequency 14:49 < aegray> click sound when you scroll 14:49 < jchillerup> ah 14:49 < jchillerup> And it can produce numerous tones? 14:49 < aegray> no 14:49 < aegray> just one tone 14:49 < jchillerup> ok.. How loud? 14:49 < _KDE> but they could virtually made by software and then output by piezo 14:50 < aegray> the piezo can't output multiple tones 14:50 < aegray> not at once at least 14:50 < _KDE> the multiple tones could be packed into one by software 14:50 < aegray> lets put it this way 14:51 < jchillerup> It can play the DTMF through the headphones 14:51 < aegray> in order to play two tones at once, something has to be able to play certain multiple frequencies 14:51 < aegray> yes dtmf trhough headphones 14:51 < aegray> piezo can play one frequency at a time 14:51 < aegray> its like a midi sound 14:51 < aegray> or the older nokia phone ringers 14:51 < aegray> it can't play more than one tone at once 14:51 < _KDE> but couldnt just a average frequency out of the 2 be generated? 14:51 < aegray> ->monophonic 14:52 < _KDE> i understood aegray!!!!!!!!! 14:52 < aegray> yes, but that wouldn't be dtmf 14:52 < aegray> so it wouldn't work to dial phones 14:52 < aegray> the phone needs to hear both tones 14:52 < aegray> in order to work 14:52 < _KDE> k 14:53 < _KDE> why should anyone use his ipod to call a number? 14:53 < aegray> for fun 14:53 < _KDE> lol 14:53 -!- richter [~richter@pixout.appriss.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 < _KDE> in my eyes this dialer thing its more boring than interesting 14:54 < _KDE> can someone reach uclinux.org ? 14:54 < jchillerup> But, aegray, I know it can play one frequency at a time 14:54 < aegray> it doesn't really matter what you think about it. A dev liked the idea and he put it in 14:54 < aegray> haha 14:54 < jchillerup> But can it play multiple frequencies - can you make a song 14:55 < jchillerup> like an old cell phone 14:55 < aegray> yes - i think so 14:55 < aegray> just not at once 14:55 < jchillerup> no, it's not polyphonic 14:55 < aegray> yep 14:55 < jchillerup> I guess we misunderstood eachother then ;) 14:55 < aegray> there we go 14:55 < aegray> :) 14:55 < jchillerup> jchillerup And it can produce numerous tones? 14:55 < jchillerup> aegray no 14:56 < jchillerup> ;) 14:56 < aegray> hehe 14:56 < _KDE> i cant open www.ipodlinux.org 14:56 < jchillerup> Wow.. One could make a game where you get a sound and have to guess the frequency 14:56 < _KDE> nah www.uclinux.org* 14:57 < aegray> uclinux.org is down it seems 14:58 < joecool> aegray: you killed it!! 14:58 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 14:58 < _KDE> id like to install the arm-elf-toolchain by script 14:58 < aegray> agh 14:58 < aegray> for what system? 14:58 < _KDE> i installed it by rpms and the linker doesnt work 14:58 < Izz^> Get a Mac. 14:58 < aegray> theres a script on the kernel building page 14:58 < aegray> .sh 14:59 < Izz^> Whoops.. .that just slipped out. Sorry. 14:59 < jchillerup> lol 14:59 < _KDE> ??? 14:59 < _KDE> cant find any script there 15:00 < _KDE> i need the arm-elf-toolchain 15:00 < aegray> ugh - toolchain link on that page 15:00 < joecool> _KDE: its there.. read 15:00 < aegray> look! 15:01 < _KDE> download the toolchain from uclinux.org/... 15:01 < _KDE> but its not hosted on ipl.org 15:01 < aegray> download the toolchain as a binary! theres a link 15:01 < aegray> oh wait 15:01 < aegray> its on uclinux 15:01 < aegray> nm 15:01 < _KDE> i said 15:02 < _KDE> as i said* 15:02 < aegray> wait for it to be up 15:02 < BleuLlama> is the log bot around today? 15:02 < aegray> _ipodstats 15:02 < aegray> yes 15:02 < BleuLlama> oops. typod the name. heh. 15:02 < BleuLlama> ty 15:02 < jchillerup> is there a way to avoid malloc failures? 15:03 < BleuLlama> 14:30 < coob> and BleuLlama is mor eimportant than you. 15:03 < BleuLlama> HAHAH. :D 15:04 < coob> jchillerup: it's a bug 15:04 < jchillerup> ok 15:04 < jchillerup> Then I guess there isn't ;) 15:04 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 15:05 < _KDE> there is a way to avoid them: dont use ipl ;) 15:05 < joecool> seems to affect certain mp3's from certain encoders 15:05 < joecool> and longer music seems more affected 15:06 < _KDE> it#s random 15:06 < aegray> malloc cannot be avoided without rewriting how the kernel wroks 15:06 < aegray> works* 15:06 < joecool> aegray: so.. its unfixable? 15:06 < aegray> the malloc failed problem? 15:06 < aegray> no it shouldn't be 15:06 < aegray> just less needs to be allocated at once 15:06 < joecool> hmm, cause i saw the tracker and they say there is progress on it 15:07 < jchillerup> Whoops.. There's a typo in podzilla I think 15:07 < coob> nah 15:07 < aegray> theres a tracker 15:07 < coob> mpd gets around the malloc issue 15:07 < jchillerup> When there's a tie in tic-tac-toe, it says "tye" 15:07 < jchillerup> Isn't it "tie" 15:07 < aegray> because i wrote it and i'm chinese 15:07 < coob> it's an unffunt joke by macpod. 15:07 < BleuLlama> jch: as designed 15:07 < jchillerup> ok 15:07 < aegray> jk 15:07 < joecool> hmm.. i'd love to use mpd on it 15:07 < aegray> macpod is a genious and he does what he wants 15:07 < jchillerup> ;) 15:07 < BleuLlama> true 15:10 < jchillerup> If I disassemble my ipod, is it then difficult to assemble again or can I just put the two parts together again (it's a 4g) 15:10 < joecool> oh yeah.. malloc is random 15:11 < joecool> jchillerup: i took apart a 2g.. it was pretty simple 15:11 < BleuLlama> 1g and 2g are simple, 3g is a little more complex, and 4g can get pretty delicate at times. don't brute force anything 15:11 < BleuLlama> i recommend checking out newer technologies' page 15:11 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 15:11 < aegray> hammer = works every time 15:12 < joecool> jchillerup: two things though, one you will void all warrenty, and two its a little rough to pop open (use a wenger swiss army knife, small blade works on everything from watches to cellphones) 15:12 < _KDE> lol 15:12 < BleuLlama> they have information there with movies about how to install their batteries, which include disassembly of all of the ipods 15:12 < aegray> hammers work too 15:12 -!- richter [~richter@pixout.appriss.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 15:12 < BleuLlama> their batteries come with small plastic tools that open up an ipod case without damaging metal or plastic 15:12 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:12 < BleuLlama> i have a NT high capacity battery in my 1g. >22 hour battery life on the thing. LD 15:12 < BleuLlama> :D 15:12 < joecool> hmm.. wtf, someone said they have music on IPL playing in background... er how? 15:13 < BleuLlama> 1) play any song 15:13 < BleuLlama> 2) pick up another ipod and use it 15:13 < aegray> haha 15:13 < aegray> its in development joecool 15:13 < aegray> hehe 15:13 < joecool> k, so there's code.. just not in cvs 15:13 < aegray> yep 15:13 * aegray listens to an ogg while playing othello just to piss off joecool 15:14 < BleuLlama> i would have worked on getting more than just [7] working in my dialer yesterday, but i fell asleep on my porch. oops. 15:14 < aegray> haha 15:14 < joecool> i don't care.. ogg isn't something necessary for me 15:14 < aegray> fine 15:14 < joecool> though i'd love to have flac in something over then just mpd 15:14 * BleuLlama listens to a mod while playing an oog while playing othello to one-up aegray 15:14 < joecool> :P 15:14 < BleuLlama> *ogg 15:14 * t0mas np: Usher - Yeah (Feat. Lil Jon And Ludacris) (0:07) [http://amarok.kde.org/] 15:14 * aegray listens to an mp3 while playing doom 15:15 < t0mas> that's a good tester too 15:15 < BleuLlama> because, as coob states: Rule 1: BleuLlama is more important than you. 15:15 < aegray> i hate that song 15:15 < jchillerup> BleuLlama, Where do you find the build? 15:15 < aegray> haha 15:15 < t0mas> aegray: for sound testing it's good :P 15:15 < _KDE> is doom already playable ? ^^ 15:15 < BleuLlama> jch: build of what 15:15 < t0mas> I just hooked up my player to a new speaker set 15:16 < aegray> no i was kidding 15:16 < BleuLlama> jchillerup: build of what? 15:16 < aegray> they play that damn song like 8 times anight at bars and i'm sick of hearing it 15:17 < BleuLlama> then. um.. don't go to bars? 15:17 < joecool> new foo fighters album is pretty good (though i still thing NIN's With Teeth is my favorite newer album) 15:17 < BleuLlama> buy earplugs? 15:17 < BleuLlama> yeah. the new NIN is one of my favorites 15:18 < aegray> they should tailor their music to me 15:18 < aegray> not me to them 15:18 < aegray> thats how the world should work 15:18 < BleuLlama> not quite as good as Pretty Hate Machine, but really close 15:18 < BleuLlama> HOLY CRAP. 15:18 < BleuLlama> I agree with joecool on something!!! 15:18 < BleuLlama> heh 15:18 < joecool> rofl 15:18 < jchillerup> haha 15:18 < joecool> apocalypse!!!!!! 15:18 < joecool> head for the hills!!! 15:18 < jchillerup> I've just listened to myself singing a horrible song .. I was very, very, very... VERY dunk 15:21 < joecool> hmm.. i find lil john irritating as hell, cause he has about 3 words in his vocabulary 15:21 < joecool> its just YEAH, WHAT? 15:21 < joecool> the whole time.. 15:21 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:23 < joecool> is it placebo effect.. or does the music in IPL sound a little better then in apple? 15:24 < joecool> i dunno the quality of both decoders.. i can't imagine you improved the DAC somehow 15:24 < aegray> there was extensive work on that 15:24 < aegray> to make the quality bette 15:24 < aegray> r 15:24 < aegray> it takes a 128kbps mp3 and transforms it to 192 15:25 < joecool> yeah, it seems to be alot better.. lemme swap back over to apple real quick 15:25 < joecool> i must say though.. hfsplus seems to move much better then FAT, i'm glad i moved it over 15:26 < BleuLlama> yeah. apple firmware applies a smooth filter over the waveform, effectively dropping the quality by two Nyquist units. 15:26 < joecool> oh yeah.. i just tested it.. the waveform is alot sharper on IPL 15:26 < BleuLlama> and we're using that GPL sweetener, which gives us about .5 Nyquist units better. 15:27 * BleuLlama making shit up 15:27 < BleuLlama> seriously though, it's probably just a difference between the decoder we're using and what apple is using. 15:27 < joecool> apple's decoder is providing a warmer sound.. but also at the same time is more muffled 15:27 < aegray> at 33mhz i'd take the muffled 15:28 < joecool> how much of a battery muncher is IPL? 15:28 < joecool> 5-6 hours while runnin? 15:28 < coob> hahah fuck off 15:28 < coob> try 1. 15:28 < joecool> rofl, that bad? 15:28 < jchillerup> I second that 15:28 < _KDE> warmer sound? i hate it, ilike podzillas more 15:28 < joecool> _KDE: never said i was a fan of it 15:29 < joecool> i'm a purist for audio quality.. i was actually disapointed with the ipod's sound compared to my minidiscs (and mp3 is techically supposed to be better then ATRAC,-3 according to all blind tests) 15:29 < BleuLlama> yeah. that sounds about right 15:30 < BleuLlama> i get about 2-3 hours on my high capacity battery, so 1 hour for a regular battery sounds right 15:30 < _KDE> why does it need so much enrgy? 15:31 < BleuLlama> no power management 15:31 < _KDE> is the hdd always spinning? cpu always running at full speed? 15:31 < aegray> cpu always full speed 15:31 < aegray> hd stops sometimes 15:32 < _KDE> sometimes? 15:32 < aegray> if its not in use it stops spinning after 15 seconds 15:32 < _KDE> k 15:33 < _KDE> why isnt the cpu slowed down? 15:33 < _KDE> when its not needed 15:33 < BleuLlama> no power management 15:33 < aegray> we haven't put that in yet 15:33 < aegray> and as Bleu keeps saying 15:33 < aegray> no power management 15:34 * aegray bows down to the more important one 15:35 < joecool> aegray: is suspend somewhat figured out? 15:36 < aegray> what kind of suspend? 15:36 < joecool> aegray: for the ipod, to power IPL down into "sleep" 15:36 < aegray> minorly. I have some minor stuff to put both processors to sleep and blank the screen 15:36 < aegray> but it needs work 15:37 < joecool> nothing existing can be used for it? (like swsup) 15:37 < aegray> whats swsup? 15:37 * aegray noob 15:37 < joecool> software suspend 15:37 < aegray> theres no power off function 15:38 < aegray> so that doesn't work i don't think 15:38 < BleuLlama> swsup calls the power management support in the OS. 15:38 < BleuLlama> we don't have that power management support in the OS yet 15:38 < joecool> BleuLlama: yeah, that would help :P 15:39 < joecool> does it charge when plugged in with IPL on? 15:39 < coob> firewire yes 15:39 < coob> usb no 15:39 < jchillerup> good info 15:39 < jchillerup> That's why I couldn't listen to music today 15:39 < joecool> k, that was something i was wonderin 15:44 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:48 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:53 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 15:59 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 16:24 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 16:25 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 16:33 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|et 16:41 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:42 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:43 < thunder_3k1> is http://www.ipodlinux.com/ down ?? 16:43 < aegray> its ipodlinux.org 16:43 < thunder_3k1> oh 16:43 < aegray> lol 16:43 < thunder_3k1> hehehe 16:46 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 16:53 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.146.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:00 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 17:08 < Sereroku> i think i'll compile a new Sauerkrautzilla :] 17:09 < Sereroku> later 17:09 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:10 < Cippo> Sauerkrautzilla? 17:10 -!- swhitt [~swhitt@vector.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:10 < Sereroku> German Podzilla 17:10 < Sereroku> :) 17:10 < swhitt> what is up my friends 17:10 < Cippo> hehe, im thinking of making a C++ zilla of some kind 17:11 < Cippo> started 5 min ago :D 17:11 < coob> using microwindows? 17:11 < Cippo> yup 17:11 < courtc> point? 17:11 < Sereroku> 0% :) 17:11 < Cippo> fun :) 17:11 < Sereroku> lol 17:11 < Sereroku> progress? 17:11 < Cippo> aint that what life is about? 17:12 < coob> C++ != fun 17:12 < Sereroku> about progress? 17:12 < swhitt> budbudbuddddd 17:12 < Cippo> plus make it easy to upgrade etc. 17:12 < Izz^> courtc, do you have inside knowledge of any forthcoming 4G recordingnessability? 17:12 < coob> Izz^: i've witnessed a 4g recording :) 17:12 < Cippo> coob, c++ rules!! :) 17:12 < Izz^> !!! 17:12 < Izz^> Was it .. ..like. ..did it ... y'know.. record? 17:12 < courtc> Izz^, heh.. yes I do. 17:12 < coob> ...yes. 17:12 * Izz^ squeals 17:12 < Sereroku> i wanna play San Andreas lol :) 17:13 < Sereroku> not on iPod ^^ 17:13 < coob> expect it in cvs once the kinks have been ironed out... 17:13 < Izz^> That is top news! 17:13 * aegray slaps Cippo for wanting to do something so pointless 17:13 < Cippo> wtf!?! 17:13 < Cippo> who dares slap me? :) 17:13 < Izz^> aegray did it 17:13 < courtc> Cippo, c++ isn't eactly the best language for embedded work, and its real easy to code wrong. (messy, messy, messy) 17:13 * Izz^ points 17:14 < aegray> tattletale 17:14 < coob> c's easy to code wrong 17:14 * coob looks at Keyman 17:14 < Izz^> Surely embedded systems should be written in ADA! 17:14 < courtc> haha 17:14 < aegray> everythings easy to code wrong 17:14 < Cippo> courtc, easy to code wrong? 17:14 < Cippo> in what way? 17:14 < Izz^> I think they're talking about types. 17:14 < aegray> in the way that we don't like it 17:14 < Cippo> i've koded a kernel in c++ 17:14 < courtc> c++ can get a lot worse than c 17:14 < Cippo> *coded 17:15 < Izz^> Like, how stringent it is with type checking. 17:15 < Cippo> that went fine 17:15 < aegray> youve recoded an entire kernel in c++? 17:15 < Cippo> nope 17:15 < Cippo> from scratch 17:15 < Cippo> my own os 17:15 < Izz^> Well, yes, of course we've *all* coded our own OS. Depends on your definition of course. I made mine in Flash. 17:15 < coob> i made min in hypercard 17:16 < coob> mine* 17:16 < courtc> heh, exo-kernel, micro-kernel, or monolitic-kernel? 17:16 < Izz^> Mine was no-kernel :) 17:16 < Cippo> monolitic 17:16 < Cippo> wasn't that good though :) 17:16 < Cippo> as it was my first os ever :) 17:16 < Izz^> And your last? 17:16 < Cippo> atm, yes :) 17:17 < courtc> heh, /me wokrs a little on dr'ex (exo-kernel) 17:17 < Sereroku> podzilla crashed o_O ^^ 17:17 < Cippo> crashed a few times to me too 17:17 < Cippo> not strange though 17:17 < Sereroku> ok 17:17 < Sereroku> ;) 17:17 < courtc> no, Sauerkrautzilla crashed. 17:17 < Cippo> as it's in development :) 17:17 < Sereroku> ok ok courtc ^^ 17:18 < Sereroku> we should call it nazilla 17:18 < Sereroku> -.- 17:18 < courtc> post bugs if you can track them down. I hate 'real' bugs. 17:18 < Izz^> Going back to the recording on 4G stuff.. ..I take it, if it's not in CVS, general n00bs like me can't even play with it kinks-n-all? 17:18 < Sereroku> lol Mandelpod rulez xD 17:20 < Izz^> There's something I'd like to change in the Othello game. I'd probably do it myself if I could find the source. 17:20 < Sereroku> othello.c? 17:20 < Cippo> hehe :) 17:20 < Izz^> Quite likely :) 17:21 < Izz^> LOL 17:21 < fre_ber> Coob: Good answer in the 2.6 thread.. :) 17:21 < Sereroku> lol 17:21 < Izz^> Okay. ..I could probably find the source. It's the making the change bit that would probably not be worth me attempting to start. 17:21 < Sereroku> i'd like to boot linux now 17:21 < Sereroku> but... 17:21 < Sereroku> i am downloading a 4Gig Game rofl 17:21 < Izz^> So? What are you using to download? IE? 17:22 < Sereroku> no 17:22 < Sereroku> mIRC 17:22 < Izz^> Ah. 17:22 < Sereroku> it was very hard to find a xdcc bot wich got open slots ;) 17:22 < Izz^> Yah :) 17:23 < Sereroku> (GTA #San Andreas) 17:23 < coob> Izz^: change what? 17:23 < crashd> downloading warez is illegal. 17:23 < crashd> awwwww 17:23 < crashd> im telling on you 17:23 < Sereroku> i dont do illegal things :] 17:23 < crashd> well, you are! 17:24 < crashd> awwwww 17:24 < Sereroku> nooo 17:24 < crashd> you go to prisoonnn 17:24 < Sereroku> i got the game original 17:24 < fre_ber> Oh my, GTA here as well? 17:24 < courtc> yea, get on-topic 17:25 < Sereroku> what about a lil statistic ^^ 17:26 < Sereroku> how often you started a programm 17:26 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:26 < pluffsy> muffled? 17:26 < Sereroku> i'd like to know how often i play bluecube :) 17:26 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:27 < courtc> Thats just a waste of coding time, and messy too. 17:27 < Izz^> Hmm. .downloading MplayerOSX is really confusing. 17:27 < Sereroku> but its a challenge for a noob like me ^^ 17:28 < Izz^> coob, Othello: I lurve Othello but I think the 'current square' should be fully shaded dark and/or flash because at the moment it just puts a 2-pixel border around it (I think). It's not very easy to follow with the eye, but a black grid cell would stand out more. 17:29 < courtc> haha, why are you talking to coob about that? 17:29 < coob> courtc = othello master 17:30 < Izz^> [18:23] Izz^: change what? 17:30 < Izz^> :) 17:30 < Izz^> I discovered it last year when I got bored and decided to investigate it properly on my Nokia phone. It is SUCH an awesome game. 17:31 < Izz^> It's the sort of thing I normally despise. 17:31 < courtc> Check copyrights when asking about code ;) 17:32 < Izz^> Hm? 17:33 < Bi-noix> hi all 17:33 < Bi-noix> how can I revert my 1G iPod to firmware 1.4 ? 17:35 -!- lamer0 [~lamer0@c-24-30-126-12.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 < coob> get the apple installer with 1.4 17:37 -!- zsr- [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 < coob> (don't ask for it) 17:37 < coob> delete iPod_Control/Device/SysInfo 17:37 < coob> then run the installer/updater 17:38 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:38 < lamer0> anyone got linux working on the ipod 4g? I checked out the tools from cvs to create the 4g firmware..still does not boot.. unsupported I guess? 17:38 < Bi-noix> tk coob 17:39 < aegray> check topic 17:40 < aegray> and yes it works 17:40 < Bi-noix> where are the demo files for the movie player ? 17:40 < aegray> video player page http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 17:43 < Bi-noix> tk 17:43 < Bi-noix> :) 17:46 -!- uncledrax [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 -!- Appelmoes [~appel@ip-81-11-222-153.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 < uncledrax> Ipod-Linux rocks. Just loaded up the lastest nightly builds and audio playback is sweet. All my AAC and mp3 work great. Also the OGG alpha build works nice as well. Its too bad he-aac doesnt work but i guess its a bit processor extensive! 17:49 < uncledrax> oh and im using a ipod mini by the way 17:49 < zsr-> i cant wait for it to function like the regular firmware where you can close what song its playing and still mess with the iPod 17:50 < uncledrax> yeah but im sure there working on it 17:50 < zsr-> i think the audio was first priority :) 17:51 < courtc> haha.. working on it indeed. 17:51 < uncledrax> i agree and its turning out great so far! 17:51 < zsr-> all hail courtc! 17:51 -!- vek[a] [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:51 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:53 -!- zsr- is now known as zsr|gta-sa 17:55 < Cippo> would it be ok using C++ functions on the iPod? 17:56 < Cippo> you wouldn't need to port something? 17:56 < aegray> it all compiles to the same code 17:56 < aegray> so i think your ok 17:56 < aegray> hmm 17:56 < aegray> maybe not 17:56 < courtc> use hyok's toolchain. 17:57 < Cippo> is that the one linked to in the build podzilla page? 17:57 < courtc> no, http://opensrc.sec.samsung.com/download.html at the bottom. 17:57 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-65-86.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 17:58 < Cippo> hmm, the one given in the build_podzilla wont work? 17:58 < courtc> I suggest you just learn C ;) 17:58 < Cippo> hehe, i wanna use C++ 17:58 < courtc> Cippo- no, not really. 17:58 < Cippo> what would be the problem? 17:58 < Cippo> libraries? 17:59 < courtc> can't recall. just use hyok's 17:59 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:59 < Cippo> hmm, ok 17:59 * courtc uses arm-elf-tools-20040427.sh 17:59 < Cippo> think i use something like that too 18:00 < courtc> you probably us the uclinux 2003 build 18:00 < Cippo> 2.4.24-c0 or something 18:00 < courtc> arg. uclinux.org is stiull down :( 18:00 < courtc> haha, thats not a toolchain. 18:01 < Cippo> thought you meant the kernel :) 18:01 < Cippo> arm-elf-c++ --version 18:01 < Cippo> 2.95.3 18:02 < Cippo> uhm, there is no libstdc++ for uCLinux it seems like 18:03 < Bi-noix> wooahooo!! 18:03 < Bi-noix> I've video on my iPod ! 18:03 < Bi-noix> very good job guys !! ;) 18:05 < courtc> @ aegray 18:05 < Cippo> btw, you dont have uClibc on the ipod do you? 18:08 < coob> everything's statically link 18:08 -!- uncledrax [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08 < Cippo> thought so... 18:09 < Cippo> that would be possible to do with c++, or?? 18:09 * BleuLlama decides to wipe his 1g and start over 18:09 < coob> just get a newer toolchain 18:09 < coob> there's ones with the c++ stuff 18:10 < Cippo> i got arm-elf-c++ 18:10 < courtc> which toolchain are you using?' 18:11 < Cippo> hmm 18:11 < Cippo> arm-elf-tools-20030314.sh 18:13 < Cippo> "This release uses STLport for C++ support" 18:13 < Cippo> it says 18:13 < courtc> *sigh 18:14 < Cippo> what about this? http://www.gnuarm.com/ 18:15 < courtc> what is wrong with that toolchain I linked you to? 18:15 < Cippo> ehm 18:15 < Cippo> well, wanted so see all the options 18:16 < Cippo> is it the 3.4 based one that "allows" c++? 18:17 -!- uncledrax [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:17 -!- uncledrax [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:17 -!- malibi [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:18 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 18:18 < malibi> coudl someone help me. When i try to play some of my aac files i get a error msg saying "error demuxing stream"?? Any thoughts on what it could be? 18:18 < aegray> protected files? 18:19 < malibi> no there not protected 18:19 < malibi> i created them in nero 18:22 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["CU All"] 18:22 * Izz^ wishes he could port Flash Player to iPodLinux 18:23 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:23 -!- malibi [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:24 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:26 < courtc> ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/pixil/packages/flash-0.4.10b.tar.gz 18:26 < aegray> haha wow 18:27 -!- malibi [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 < coob> lool 18:30 < coob> malibi: .mp4 files? 18:30 < coob> i wasn't sure how to proeprly check for aac tracks, i probably messed up somewhere 18:30 -!- swhitt [~swhitt@vector.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:32 < malibi> yep 18:32 < malibi> sorry .m4a 18:32 < malibi> i just checked the files and it appears i encoded then using he-aac profile?? 18:33 < malibi> are these supported 18:33 < coob> no 18:33 < coob> not yet 18:33 < malibi> cool no probs 18:34 < coob> apple's firmware won't play them either 18:34 < malibi> yeah i saw that 18:35 < malibi> i also saw that it doesnt play .aac files 18:36 < malibi> something about file association 18:37 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:37 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:38 -!- malibi [uncledrax@ppp115-181.static.internode.on.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:45 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:47 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["Going back to coding"] 18:48 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:54 -!- JBerlin [~Email@ool-43546934.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:08 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-65-86.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- _KDE [KDE@ppp-82-135-65-86.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:26 < JBerlin> I got the mini into diskmode and reformatted it 19:27 < JBerlin> it is menu+action to reset, then menu+play to go into diskmode on the mini 19:28 < aegray> yes 19:28 < aegray> wait 19:28 < aegray> action + play for diskmode 19:29 < Izz^> Okay.. .confused. I just installed the latest nightlys and the contrast problem is back. Goes instantly blank if I touch the contrast setting. 19:31 < Izz^> Also... that Tetris game looks particularly blurry.. ..like it doesn't clear the piece quickly enough when it redraws it in another position/rotation. I might be imagining it. 19:32 < aegray> you so crazy 19:32 < Izz^> :| 19:33 < coob> rm etc/podzilla.conf 19:33 < coob> will fix contrast prob 19:34 < Izz^> Okay, deleted it. I'll see if it's sorted on next boot - thanks. 19:37 < Izz^> So how does Linux run on the iPod anyway? Do the PortalPlayer people provide a compiler for their chip...and then you compile the kernel from source using that? 19:39 < coob> portalplayer... provide? are you kidding 19:39 < coob> the pp chips have arm cores 19:39 < aegray> haha 19:39 < coob> arm is open 19:39 < coob> so we cna use an arm compiler 19:40 < coob> if we want to do anything useful, such as i/o or write to the lcd, we need to reverse engineer that from the apple hardware 19:40 < coob> which is fing hard work 19:40 < coob> i'm amazed at how leachbj does it... 19:40 < aegray> leachbj is a god 19:40 < Bi-noix> :) 19:42 -!- nessus_ [~Philipp@dsl-084-058-013-153.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 < nessus_> so, joining a channel, and first thing i do is ask a question :-9 19:43 -!- jchillerup [~jchilleru@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:43 < Izz^> That's a statement. 19:44 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:44 < nessus_> i'm trying to compile the kernel, but make dep quits mith the error: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `dep'. Stop. 19:44 < nessus_> why ? 19:45 < Izz^> Got a...thing...toolchain... for goblin...elf...thingy? 19:45 * Izz^ doesn't really know 19:46 < Bi-noix> lol 19:46 < Bi-noix> nessus_: missing Makefile or missing rule ? 19:46 < nessus_> the Makefile is there .. how can i find the rule ? 19:47 < nessus_> $ make dep 19:47 < nessus_> rm -f include/asm-armnommu/arch include/asm-armnommu/proc 19:47 < nessus_> (cd include/asm-armnommu; ln -sf arch-ipod arch; ln -sf proc-armv proc) 19:47 < nessus_> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `dep'. Stop. 19:47 < nessus_> make: *** [archdep] Error 2 19:49 < aegray> did you cp arch/armnommu/def-configs/ipod .config? 19:49 < aegray> then make oldconfig? 19:49 < nessus_> yes 19:50 < aegray> redownload/cvs the source then 19:50 < aegray> somethings missing it seems 19:50 < nessus_> ok 19:51 -!- ckasprzak [trash@69-163-9-50.kntnny.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 < ckasprzak> can you guys please explain what the 4th generation wheel is? 19:55 < aegray> what do you mean by is? 19:58 < Izz^> It's just a touchpad cut into a circle with a hole in the middle. 19:59 -!- zsr|gta-sa [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:00 < Izz^> Gah.. ..forgot to uncap my volume limit when I rebuilt my iPod the other day. No wonder I've been having to crank it up. 20:00 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:07 < BleuLlama> well, more like a radial 1-dimensional touchpad 20:08 < nessus_> ok, i forgot fo apply the uClinux patch ... no nessus_ you don't need to read the fu**ing manual, you can just ask other people and waste there time. sorry! 20:09 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-180.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:14 < coob> nessus_: for some reason everyone forgets the uclinux patch 20:14 -!- swhitt [~swhitt@vector.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:20 < nessus_> i think when you build from cvs (like i did) it is not easy to understand that you have to do step 1., then 2. and in in step 3. either apply the patch OR copy over the cvs tree. i try to rework that part on http://www.ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building 20:21 * BleuLlama restores the firmware on his 1g 20:22 < BleuLlama> the drive was getting buggy. i'd have to plug it in twice before os x would mount it properly . oops 20:23 < coob> sure it wasn't os x? 20:25 < BleuLlama> yes 20:25 < BleuLlama> my 4g works perfectly, other drives work perfectly 20:25 < BleuLlama> and this one works perfectly now. 20:25 < BleuLlama> it just needed a reformat 20:28 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:35 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:39 < nessus_> i hope i could make it a bit more clear: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building#Building_the_Kernel 20:40 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 < notaguest> what does it mean if my apple firmware says internall error 20:42 < aegray> your screwed 20:42 < aegray> jk 20:42 < aegray> dunno 20:42 < aegray> when did it say that? 20:42 < nessus_> n8 20:43 -!- nessus_ [~Philipp@dsl-084-058-013-153.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:43 < notaguest> when i started up the software 20:43 -!- ryannnn [~tanglewoo@blk-215-127-0.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:43 < notaguest> with or without my ipod plugged in 20:43 < aegray> reinstall firmware i guess 20:43 < notaguest> see its an old version i cant get it anywhere else 20:43 < aegray> how did you install it? 20:44 < notaguest> i got it off the forums 20:44 < aegray> where - gimme a url 20:44 < notaguest> see the video player works fine on my ipod but the colors are off and it skips i was told it was made for older firmware 20:45 < notaguest> http://www.codsoup.org/upgx/iPod_Updater_2005-02_07.gz 20:45 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:45 < aegray> do it over again 20:46 < aegray> its just an apple updater right? 20:46 < notaguest> yeah 20:46 < notaguest> what should i do over 20:47 < aegray> the restore 20:47 < aegray> run the updater again 20:47 < aegray> and restore it 20:47 < notaguest> i cant even open the updater 20:47 < notaguest> it says error 20:47 < notaguest> then it closes 20:47 < aegray> the updater says error? or your ipod does? 20:47 < notaguest> ipod manager internal error i hit ok and it shuts down 20:48 < aegray> in the updater or on your ipod? 20:48 < notaguest> updater 20:48 < aegray> i think it depends on your sysinfo file 20:48 < aegray> delete all the folders in your ipod drive 20:48 < aegray> and then try it again 20:48 < aegray> other than that, don't know 20:49 < notaguest> i get the same error when the ipod isent plugged in 20:49 < aegray> ah 20:49 < aegray> dunno then 20:49 < notaguest> how come the video player wasent made for the latest firmware 20:49 < aegray> do you have a newer version installed too? 20:49 < notaguest> yes 20:49 < aegray> uninstall that 20:49 < aegray> i bet thats the problem 20:49 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea2d7.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["cya!"] 20:49 < aegray> you should only have one version at once 20:49 < notaguest> ok 20:50 < notaguest> do u no if the video will work on the newer one soon? 20:50 < aegray> the video player wasn't made for the new firmware because ipl isn't made for the new firmware and I don't have the new firmware to test on 20:50 < aegray> nor do i want to get the new fw to test on and f up my ipod 20:50 < notaguest> ooo so howcome podzilla works on the new firmware 20:50 < aegray> it works, but colors are flipped 20:50 < aegray> the matrix is a different color 20:51 < aegray> colors went from rgb to brg i think 20:51 < notaguest> yeah i saw color was fliped 20:51 < notaguest> oo ok 20:51 < notaguest> so you guys are not gonna make a fix for the new one? 20:51 < aegray> eventually, but theres new stuff in the new firmware which makes it harder to reverse engineer 20:51 < aegray> the encryption isn't the same 20:51 < notaguest> ooo ok 20:51 < notaguest> what about the sound how is that going 20:52 < aegray> shitty 20:52 < aegray> its not happening for a long while 20:52 < notaguest> oo but you have tried sound with video? 20:52 < aegray> thats what i'm talking about 20:52 < notaguest> yeah ok 20:52 < notaguest> that sucks 20:52 < aegray> yep 20:52 < notaguest> is their another place i could get the old firmware cause this one isent an install file its the folder that gets installed 20:52 < BleuLlama> should video work with the 06/03 kernel? 20:53 < aegray> i think but not sure 20:53 < aegray> i have no clue on firmware 20:53 < aegray> google it 20:53 < BleuLlama> trying out video on my 1g. it just sits at "loading video" 20:53 < BleuLlama> don't hear the drive going. i'll just put the newest kernel on there. 20:53 < aegray> hmmm. lemme send you a kernel and podzilla? 20:54 < BleuLlama> i just grabbed the latest kernel from davidc's page 20:54 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit ["sleep"] 20:54 < aegray> dunno then - there shouldn't be too much different 20:54 < aegray> what video are you using? 20:54 < coob> latets podzila/kernel builds should work 20:54 < coob> latest* 20:54 < BleuLlama> the 1g-3g demo avi from Video_player 20:55 < aegray> ok 20:55 < notaguest> aegray: you no where i could get the firmware for it olderone do you still have it? 20:55 < aegray> not that i know of 20:55 < aegray> don't have it - i don't even know where my apple restore stuff is 20:55 < notaguest> oo dam so im screwed with the flipped colors then 20:56 < BleuLlama> yep 20:56 < notaguest> :-( 20:56 < BleuLlama> that's the fun of "Unsupported" 20:56 < notaguest> i guess 20:56 < notaguest> any time range you think the new version will be working with it 20:56 < BleuLlama> (wait and deal for now) or (fix it). those are your two choices 20:56 < coob> no 20:56 < BleuLlama> never ask time 20:56 < coob> dont ask 20:56 < coob> for a time range 20:56 < coob> one thing that amkes me mad 20:56 < coob> is asking when things will be done 20:57 < coob> do you think we're paid to do this? 20:57 < aegray> your not? 20:57 < aegray> (ok i'll shutup) 20:58 < notaguest> i would do it my self and all but i wouldent no where to start 20:58 < aegray> download 2bppconv the source to that program 20:58 < BleuLlama> heh. today's kernel build worked. nice work aegray. :D 20:58 < aegray> thanks 20:58 < BleuLlama> tee-hee 20:58 < notaguest> i have 2bppconv 20:58 < aegray> do you have the source? 20:58 < notaguest> the source to that prog nope 20:58 < coob> whee 20:58 < coob> i bet the video player looks so much better on the 1g lcd 20:59 < aegray> in there theres code for converting from 24 bit to 16 bit. you can make this happen and switch around the colors 20:59 < notaguest> so what would i do if i had the source 20:59 < aegray> theres a line where it sets factor 20:59 < notaguest> haha if it was that easy wouldent it be done already 20:59 < aegray> no because everyone is too f*ing lazy to do anything themselves if they need it 20:59 < notaguest> also 2bppconv is what i have it to convert the video files for the ipod i dont no what it really is though i followed the directions from the site 21:00 < notaguest> im willing to try all i need is the source code? 21:00 < aegray> yea i think thats the right source 21:00 < notaguest> where do i get it 21:00 < aegray> theres a convForGray.tgz on the video player page 21:00 < notaguest> wait um so your saying the encoder is the one that flips the colors and thats all that needs to be changed 21:01 < aegray> no - the encoder does everything fine 21:01 < aegray> the firmware fucks things up 21:01 < aegray> if you can use a converter 21:01 < notaguest> oo so isent 2bppconv the encoder 21:01 < aegray> to... 21:01 < aegray> no 21:01 < aegray> you use mencoder to convert to 24 bit uncompressed 21:01 < aegray> then you can use that program to convert to 2bits or 16 bits 21:01 < notaguest> oo so what does 2bppconv do 21:02 < aegray> it converts from 24 bit uncompressed to 16 or 2 bit 21:02 < aegray> its set for 2 bit 21:02 < notaguest> ooooooo ok 21:02 < aegray> theres a line "factor = 4" or something like that 21:02 < aegray> if you set factor=1 21:02 < notaguest> so where do i get the source for the color one 21:02 < aegray> omg 21:02 < aegray> its in the same source 21:03 < notaguest> oo in the gray one? 21:03 < aegray> its just a variable is set diff 21:03 < aegray> yes 21:03 < notaguest> ok i got that 21:03 < aegray> you have to go in the source, change a few things, then recompile it 21:04 < notaguest> which file do i go in? i see a c file h file and just a file called 2bppconv 21:04 < aegray> if you have no programming experience, your screwed 21:04 < notaguest> i no php? 21:04 < aegray> the c file is the main source 21:04 < notaguest> yeah i see that 21:04 < notaguest> i found this 21:04 < notaguest> FILE * f3; 21:04 < notaguest> int factor = 4; 21:05 < aegray> there you go 21:05 < aegray> when factor = 1 it converts 24 bit to 16 bit 21:05 < aegray> but 21:05 < aegray> its still converting for normal colors 21:05 < notaguest> wait but then i see this if ((factor==1) 21:05 < notaguest> so thats making the difference 21:05 < notaguest> so factor has to be set to 1 21:05 < notaguest> for that to run 21:05 < aegray> yes 21:05 < aegray> and that code in that loop, 21:05 < aegray> you see something like 21:05 < aegray> b=(pchar[0]) 21:05 < aegray> or b=(pchar[2]) 21:05 < aegray> dont remember which 21:05 < notaguest> yea 21:06 < aegray> play around with which color gets set to which index 21:06 < notaguest> right then u got the else 21:06 < notaguest> else if ((factor==4) 21:06 < notaguest> which is what its doing now 21:06 < aegray> flip the colors around 21:06 < notaguest> so i changed the factor = 1 21:06 < aegray> so the three lines where r g and b initially get set, 21:06 < notaguest> now thats not it? 21:06 < aegray> you play around with to set them to different colors 21:06 < aegray> and factur must be = 1 21:06 < notaguest> ok i changed the factor got lost with the color thing 21:06 < aegray> lines: 21:06 < aegray> b=pchar[2] 21:06 < aegray> g=pchar[1] 21:06 < notaguest> r = pchar[2] << 8; 21:06 < notaguest> g = pchar[1] << 8; 21:06 < notaguest> b = pchar[0] << 8; 21:07 < aegray> yea 21:07 < notaguest> i see that 21:07 < aegray> change which one sets r, which one sets b and which one sets g 21:07 < aegray> i don't know to what 21:07 < aegray> but if you change that, it will flip colors 21:07 < notaguest> change it to what though 21:07 < notaguest> u mean change around the 21:07 < aegray> i dunno - like g = pchar[2] << 8; 21:07 < notaguest> [1] [2] ect 21:07 < aegray> b = pchar[1] << 8 21:07 < aegray> yea something like that 21:08 < aegray> it will flip the colors 21:08 < notaguest> ok so i just have to play with it? 21:08 < aegray> yes 21:08 < aegray> then compile it 21:08 < notaguest> now if i test it could it fup my comp 21:08 < notaguest> not comp 21:08 < notaguest> ipod 21:08 < aegray> no its just converting a video 21:08 < notaguest> ok 21:08 < notaguest> so i need to reconvert the ipod ads? right or i cant cause their already converted 21:08 < aegray> gcc 2bppconv.c -o converter 21:08 < aegray> ./converter in.avi out.avi 21:08 < aegray> you have to manually encode your own movie 21:09 < notaguest> ok 21:09 < aegray> to 24 bit uncompressed avi 21:09 < notaguest> um how do i compile it 21:09 < aegray> gcc 21:09 < aegray> get cygwin 21:09 < notaguest> i have it 21:09 < aegray> gcc 2bppconv.c -o converter 21:09 < aegray> have fun 21:10 < notaguest> should i move the 2bppconv.c into the home folder in cygwin 21:10 < aegray> sure 21:10 < notaguest> also i only need that .c file not the others 21:10 < aegray> you need the others too 21:10 < notaguest> what do i do with thoses 21:10 < aegray> they have to be in the same dir as the c file 21:11 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.146.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has quit [] 21:11 < notaguest> ok i ran that command 21:12 < notaguest> now i take out that file 2bppconv ? and replace it where the one i have now is? 21:12 < aegray> just run it on your 24 bit uncompressed avi 21:12 < aegray> converter in.avi out.avi 21:13 < BleuLlama> gotta run! see yas later! 21:13 * BleuLlama afk 21:13 < notaguest> i dont have to do all this 21:13 < notaguest> ./mencoder.exe -ovc raw -ofps 15 -nosound 21:13 < notaguest> ect 21:13 < aegray> you have to convert to uncompressed 24 bit avi 21:14 < notaguest> um then what? use that mencoder.exe? 21:14 < aegray> ./mencoder -ovc raw -vf scale=220:176,format=bgr24 -nosound in.avi -o out.avi 21:14 < notaguest> so the 2bppconv will make it 24 bit? 21:14 < aegray> omg 21:15 < aegray> you take the 24 bit from mencoder 21:15 < aegray> that you get from running that mencoder command 21:15 < aegray> and then run the 2bppconv on it 21:15 < aegray> 2bppconv in.avi out.avi 21:15 < BleuLlama> notaguest: learn what the tools do, try them out, and then come back when you can't understand some of the finer points. 21:15 < aegray> and it will convert from 24 to 16 bits 21:15 < notaguest> ok 21:15 < notaguest> so i do mencoder first 21:15 < aegray> thanks llama 21:15 < BleuLlama> don't just type commands like a monkey, that someone tells you to. 21:15 < notaguest> BleuLlama: i thought u left 21:15 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:15 < BleuLlama> wishful thinking 21:15 < aegray> he came back to save me 21:15 < notaguest> oo haha 21:16 < notaguest> alright 21:18 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 21:18 -!- swhitt [~swhitt@vector.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:19 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:20 < notaguest> ok so i converted it with mcoder then went to the 2bppconv thing and got an error ./2bppconv syntax error unexepect { 21:20 < notaguest> u still here aegray? 21:21 < aegray> yea hold on 21:21 < notaguest> ok 21:21 -!- IRCMonkey__ [~chatzilla@cpe-65-31-3-11.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 < IRCMonkey__> hello, is anyone there? 21:21 -!- zsr [~zsr@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 < aegray> hi 21:21 < IRCMonkey__> are you expirienced with ipod linux? 21:21 < aegray> notaguest what did you get when you ran gcc 2bppconv.c -o converter 21:21 < aegray> i might be 21:21 < aegray> whats do you need? 21:22 < notaguest> i wishi i could copy you the text i got all sorts of stuff 21:22 < notaguest> hold on 21:22 < IRCMonkey__> i installed linuz on my 1g mini, it worked for a few seconds and then got frozen in a music folder. i have windows xp (sorry :p) and it connects through usb 21:22 < IRCMonkey__> i tried doing a reset by pressing action and play 21:22 < IRCMonkey__> still wont reset 21:23 < aegray> its action and menu that resets 21:23 < IRCMonkey__> and my pc wont recognize the ipod 21:23 < IRCMonkey__> o ok 21:23 < IRCMonkey__> h.o then 21:23 < notaguest> aegray: http://img293.echo.cx/img293/3244/a5ku.png 21:23 < IRCMonkey__> how many seconds? 21:23 < aegray> until it reboots 21:24 < aegray> those are just warnings its fine 21:24 < notaguest> ok 21:24 < aegray> ./converter in.avi out.avi where in.avi is the name of your 24 bit uncompressed avi 21:24 < IRCMonkey__> its still not rebooting 21:25 < notaguest> ok their we go 21:25 < IRCMonkey__> is there anything else i should do 21:25 < aegray> wait till batteries run out 21:25 < notaguest> now should i through that on my ipod and test 21:25 < aegray> but keep trying that 21:25 < aegray> make sure hold switch is off 21:25 < IRCMonkey__> k thanks a lot for the help 21:25 < aegray> and press menu+center till it reboots 21:25 < aegray> keep trying it will work 21:25 < aegray> your welcome 21:25 < aegray> if it worked 21:25 < coob> wth 21:25 < IRCMonkey__> how many seconds does that usually take? 21:25 < coob> ages 21:26 < aegray> 5 maybe 21:26 < aegray> what coob? 21:26 < notaguest> aegray: im putting it on my ipod 21:26 < notaguest> ? 21:26 < IRCMonkey__> whats a coob 21:26 < notaguest> the out.avi file 21:26 < aegray> sure 21:26 < coob> press center and menu at the same time 21:26 < aegray> if the file ran right 21:26 < coob> and hold both 21:26 < coob> until the lcd switches off 21:26 < IRCMonkey__> i am, and nuthins happnin 21:26 < coob> then you're not doing ti right 21:26 < coob> it* 21:26 < fre_ber> "What's a coob?"?!? rofl 21:26 < notaguest> aegray: i see like a black screen not full screen though no video played 21:26 < IRCMonkey__> what 21:27 < aegray> coob is someone in here 21:27 < IRCMonkey__> my thumb was on the menu button, my other thumb was on the middle 21:27 < notaguest> does that mean the [1] [2] stuff was wrong 21:27 < aegray> might be 21:27 < aegray> i dunno 21:27 < aegray> play around with it 21:27 < notaguest> but i did the procedure right right? 21:28 < aegray> i think 21:28 < aegray> if you followed what i said 21:28 < aegray> mencoder to 24 bit uncompressed 21:28 < aegray> then 2bppconv to 16 bit 21:28 < notaguest> yup 21:28 < aegray> 2bppconv tells you how many frames its done 21:28 < notaguest> but i dident do the ./2bppconv thing 21:28 < notaguest> i did ./converter instead 21:28 < aegray> yea same thing 21:28 < notaguest> yeah ok 21:28 < aegray> how many frames did it say that it did 21:28 < aegray> ? 21:28 < notaguest> 456 21:28 < aegray> ok 21:29 < aegray> what file did you use it on? 21:29 < notaguest> 457 frames it says 21:29 < notaguest> the ipod commercial 21:29 < aegray> did you use mencoder first? 21:29 < notaguest> yeah 21:29 < aegray> i dunno 21:29 < aegray> play with it 21:29 < notaguest> ok 21:29 < IRCMonkey__> assume i help those two buttons for an hour and still nothing happens, what is the next step 21:30 < coob> you're not doing it right 21:30 < coob> make sure hold is off 21:30 < coob> (not red) 21:30 < aegray> next step is either a) when it reboots press and hold center and play 21:30 < aegray> and it will go into disk mode 21:30 < IRCMonkey__> hold is off 21:30 < aegray> or b) let it boot into ipodlinux 21:30 < IRCMonkey__> it ownt reboot 21:30 < IRCMonkey__> *wont 21:30 < aegray> menu + center 21:30 < IRCMonkey__> it is frozen 21:30 < aegray> guaranteed 21:30 < coob> press the button in the middle 21:31 < aegray> hold it exactly right 21:31 < coob> and the top of the clickwheel 21:31 < coob> and hold 21:31 < aegray> never let go 21:31 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has joined #ipodlinux 21:32 < coob> hold her tightly 21:32 < coob> or something 21:32 < aegray> bahaha 21:32 < notaguest> aegray: just tried it again same outcome 21:32 < notaguest> i changed the source again 21:32 < aegray> i dunno 21:32 < aegray> i reserve my right to fall back on UNSUPPORTED 21:32 < notaguest> dam 21:32 < IRCMonkey__> im doing tht now....i hav to type w/ pinky 21:33 < notaguest> um 21:33 < coob> i think you need to go to button pressing school. 21:33 < notaguest> im surprised noone has tried it yet 21:33 < aegray> haha 21:33 < notaguest> to do it 21:33 < IRCMonkey__> im pressing them lol 21:33 < IRCMonkey__> om not that much of a retard 21:33 < IRCMonkey__> *im 21:33 < aegray> theres been one other person, but honestly, if you can't figure out how to compile things right, your not going to be the one to do it 21:34 < aegray> theres a process 21:34 < notaguest> but i thought u just told me the process 21:34 < notaguest> and that other person 21:34 < notaguest> where they sucessful 21:34 < aegray> he oculdn't figure out compiling - i sent him a test video where we rearragned the colors 21:34 < aegray> but the colors were off still 21:34 < aegray> i didn't have time to play with it too much 21:35 < notaguest> ooo :-( 21:35 < notaguest> but arent there only a few combinations it could be 21:35 < notaguest> a 1 2 3 21:35 < courtc> we just need to initalise th e screen properly. 21:35 < notaguest> you try it in everspot doesent 1 have to work 21:35 < aegray> possilbly 21:35 < aegray> but i'm lazy 21:35 < aegray> and the whole things being rewritten anyway, so i don't care too much 21:36 < aegray> new version i might care 21:36 < notaguest> ? what you mean rewritten 21:36 < aegray> but i have a lot of work to do for the new version 21:36 < aegray> to support audio - it has to be completely rewritten 21:37 < notaguest> ooo i c 21:37 < notaguest> is the new version gonna be based off the old firmware also 21:37 < aegray> probably but i dunno what the deal is there 21:37 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:37 < aegray> its just color values 21:37 < aegray> i'm sure you can figure it out 21:38 < notaguest> so is the new one based of new or old firmware 21:38 < notaguest> wait sry 21:38 < aegray> probably old 21:38 < notaguest> i repeated that by mistake 21:38 < notaguest> ok 21:38 < notaguest> ill try to play around with it i guess 21:38 < aegray> k 21:39 < notaguest> im def doing it wrong 21:39 < notaguest> wouldent the colors be messed up if it was wrong 21:39 < notaguest> all i see is a small balck screen 21:39 < aegray> then the program doesn't work 21:39 < aegray> can't help you there either 21:39 < notaguest> so what does that mean 21:40 < aegray> i dunno - its worked for me 21:40 < notaguest> the program doesent work 21:40 < aegray> it works fine 21:40 < notaguest> as in the source is messed up? 21:40 < aegray> no - i've used it to convert 21:40 < aegray> look at the new firmware test video on the video player page 21:40 < notaguest> so mayb im doig a wrong command 21:40 < aegray> that was made with the same thing i told you to do 21:40 < aegray> so yes maybe 21:40 < IRCMonkey__> is there seriously nothing else to do? 21:40 < aegray> let it run out of batteries 21:40 < IRCMonkey__> i like how that sounds 21:41 < IRCMonkey__> will it reboot then once its recharged 21:41 < aegray> and then plug it in to comp and when it turns on, press center and play and hold both 21:41 < aegray> once it runs out of batteries, it will reboot the second you plug it in 21:42 < IRCMonkey__> how long can ipod sit there until it runs out? 21:43 < IRCMonkey__> with no music playing? 21:43 < notaguest> a while 21:43 < notaguest> music playing speeds it up 21:43 < notaguest> but a while without 21:43 < IRCMonkey__> 10 hrs? 21:43 < notaguest> aegray: your right its still a little off but its better 21:43 < notaguest> also its not full screen 21:43 < notaguest> the ipod test one 21:43 < notaguest> i g2g thanks ill try to play around 21:43 < aegray> yep 21:44 -!- notaguest [~asa@ool-44c336e4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:46 -!- jchillerup| [~jchilleru@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 21:46 < IRCMonkey__> ill mail chocolates and cd-r's to whoever can give me advice that works 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> i thought linux ppl love that stuff? 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> ! 21:47 < jchillerup|> ok.. 21:47 < jchillerup|> What's the deal 21:47 < jchillerup|> I don't know if I can help you 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> i have: 1g mini, winxp 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> loaded linux 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> 4g installer 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> worked 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> then froze 21:47 < jchillerup|> enter is not space 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> and now i cant reset 21:47 < IRCMonkey__> i press menu and action 21:47 < jchillerup|> Action Menu 21:47 < jchillerup|> hm.. 21:48 < IRCMonkey__> sorry man 21:48 < jchillerup|> Wait till the battery dies 21:48 < IRCMonkey__> k 21:48 < jchillerup|> (you don't need to mail me chocolate for that solution) 21:48 < jchillerup|> ;) 21:48 < IRCMonkey__> thanks 21:48 < jchillerup|> moment, I'll have a look at the wiki 21:48 < IRCMonkey__> k, i just looked at it 21:49 < jchillerup|> If you want it to die now, consider disassembling your ipod 21:50 < IRCMonkey__> that would be awful 21:50 < jchillerup|> http://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodminiinstall.html 21:51 < IRCMonkey__> that would be the fastrack to making this situation go from bad to wrse 21:52 < jchillerup|> perhaps ;) 21:52 < IRCMonkey__> do you think people at the apple store would be too happy aboput this if i brought it in 21:53 < jchillerup|> lol 21:53 < tsk> doesn't the ipod updater fix this? 21:54 < aegray> he can't get it to reboot 21:54 < IRCMonkey__> the problem is the pc wont recognize it 21:54 < tsk> oh. 21:54 < aegray> his fingers are too big for the buttons 21:54 < IRCMonkey__> no way to get it in disk mode 21:54 < tsk> haha 21:54 < IRCMonkey__> dude 21:54 < hyarion> try to turn hold on, off, on and off again :) 21:54 < IRCMonkey__> done that 21:54 < IRCMonkey__> ill do it again 21:55 < IRCMonkey__> are you guys telling me you can't think of anything else 21:55 < jchillerup|> kindda ;) 21:56 < aegray> hit it with a hammer 21:57 < hyarion> I guess you tried to hold down the buttons for 20 sec? 21:58 < IRCMonkey__> this time ill look at a clock for 20 seconds 21:58 < IRCMonkey__> i just did that for 30 21:59 < IRCMonkey__> and nothinhg 22:00 < coob> which buttons are you holding 22:00 < jchillerup|> you tried holding them down for an hour straight 22:00 < jchillerup|> :P 22:01 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@80.125.102.207] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:02 < IRCMonkey__> u serious? 22:02 < IRCMonkey__> if you honestly tell me that that works ill do it 22:02 < aegray> which keys are you pressing 22:03 < IRCMonkey__> the center one and menu 22:03 < courtc> you know menu is the one with 'menu' on it, right? 22:04 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498BB8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:04 < coob> which is the center one 22:04 < aegray> hehe 22:04 < coob> (clue: round on in the middle) 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> correct 22:04 < coob> one* 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> the circle 22:04 < courtc> what gen ipod is this? 22:04 < aegray> mini 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> the little circle 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> 1g 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> mini 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> winxp 22:04 < courtc> wait. 22:04 < coob> is it white 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> they dont make white 22:04 < IRCMonkey__> its silver 22:05 < IRCMonkey__> what does color matter? 22:05 < aegray> they're racist 22:05 < aegray> don't worry about it 22:06 < IRCMonkey__> whatever 22:06 < aegray> let battery run out if the buttons aren't working 22:06 < aegray> if you can't get the buttons to work then thats your only choice 22:07 < hyarion> or open it up 22:07 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@80.125.102.207] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 < aegray> hhee 22:08 < courtc> if you have problems pressing buttons, I laugh at you. 22:08 < aegray> haha 22:08 < courtc> wait thats not helpful. 22:09 -!- ckasprzak [trash@69-163-9-50.kntnny.adelphia.net] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 22:11 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:12 < davidc__> ay all 22:12 < zsr> heya davidc__ 22:13 < IRCMonkey__> not at all 22:13 < IRCMonkey__> well if you guys find a solution look on the ipodlinux forum---i made a post, post it there . . .. .thanks 22:13 -!- IRCMonkey__ [~chatzilla@cpe-65-31-3-11.insight.res.rr.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040514]"] 22:14 < aegray> the solution was to press the buttons jackass 22:14 < jchillerup|> IRCMonkey__, be careful you don't press any other buttons while holding menu down.. I tend to accidentially press rewind or forward.. it helps if you press the menu button in the periphery 22:16 < jchillerup|> What is Vortex Demo? 22:16 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:16 < aegray> a game in the making 22:17 < jchillerup|> ok 22:20 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 22:21 -!- Liu511 [~Liu511@cpe-69-204-178-224.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 < zsr> aegray, isnt that the one like tempest? 22:24 < aegray> yes 22:24 < zsr> woot 22:28 < Bi-noix> how can I activate telnet on the ipod ? 22:28 < Bi-noix> there's nothing in /etc/rc preventing it from returning 22:29 < Bi-noix> is http://www.ipodlinux.org/Ethernet still accurate ? 22:33 < courtc> pretty much 22:33 < coob> what gen ipod do you have 22:33 < Bi-noix> very first ipod 22:34 < Bi-noix> maybe I mishandled with ip over fw on os x 22:34 < Bi-noix> how can I check that it's activated on the ipod ? 22:34 < coob> won't work with os x 22:34 < coob> need linux as a host 22:34 < Bi-noix> why ? 22:34 -!- josh_ [~josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:34 < Bi-noix> Tiger now supports ipofw 22:35 < coob> not the kind the ipod needs. 22:36 < Bi-noix> ok 22:36 < Bi-noix> thanks 22:36 -!- Liu511 [~Liu511@cpe-69-204-178-224.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 22:38 -!- lamer0 [~lamer0@c-24-30-126-12.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:41 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:41 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:42 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:42 -!- [Hostile] [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 22:49 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:49 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:54 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:58 -!- ames [~goyomonke@10081.webjogger.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:01 -!- vek [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:01 -!- vek[a] [~vek@69-175-204-141.losaca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:03 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:04 -!- ames [~goyomonke@10081.webjogger.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:05 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 23:06 -!- davidc___ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:07 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:07 -!- davidc___ is now known as davidc__ 23:08 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:15 -!- joecool|et is now known as joecool 23:17 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 23:24 < EvilDude> hey davidc__ 23:28 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:29 < davidc__> hey 23:38 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 < EvilDude> what have you been upto lately 23:43 -!- Appelmoes [~appel@ip-81-11-222-153.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:47 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 23:49 -!- Mike [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:50 < davidc__> working 23:50 < davidc__> been around here a bit 23:51 < courtc> yea know, the usual: hiding in the shadows, avoiding you, etc. 23:52 < davidc__> haha 23:52 < coob> davidc someone's written a nicer php mpd client 23:53 < coob> http://mpd.girsbrain.org/phpMp/index.phps 23:53 < davidc__> coob - thats what I use :P 23:53 < coob> :) 23:53 < davidc__> except I use a custom pathched one 23:53 < davidc__> its got bits of javascript in it to automatically update times and stuff 23:54 < coob> heh 23:54 < coob> you write the patches? 23:54 < davidc__> eh, just hacked it in 23:54 < davidc__> not really a patch :P 23:54 < davidc__> its got tons of hardcoded ip addresses and such 23:55 -!- Luke_ [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Sat Jun 11 00:00:00 2005