--- Log opened Wed Jun 08 00:00:02 2005 00:03 -!- Appelmoes [~appel@ip-81-11-209-196.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:12 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 00:12 < Izz^> Hi folks. 00:13 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:13 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 00:13 < theq> hey 00:14 < theq> i have a Q 00:14 < pacroon> :) 00:14 < joecool> i have a Q-Tip 00:14 < theq> someone earlyer told me if you put files into a folder on you ipod they will show up 00:14 < theq> ? 00:15 < theq> like ipod control 00:15 < joecool> like.. what do you mean? 00:15 < theq> i think it was person 00:15 < theq> um 00:15 < joecool> what are we referring to? like mp3's? 00:15 < theq> you put the files into like ipod control or somthing 00:15 < theq> yes 00:15 < theq> the folder ipod controll 00:16 < joecool> well.. it not only needs to be in there.. but it needs the itunesdb 00:16 < theq> or one of those 00:16 < aegray> they will show up in the file browser if you navigate to that folder 00:16 < joecool> yeah, they'll be in file browser.. but not in the music collection 00:16 < theq> is this in linux 00:16 < MikeRS> iPod_Control is the directory already on your iPod that Apple made to store music (as well as iTunesDB) 00:16 < theq> ? 00:17 < MikeRS> you need to make /iPod_Control a symlink to your actual directory, asumming that the partition is mounted somewhere (eg, /mnt) 00:17 < MikeRS> then you can use the Music menu system >_> 00:17 < theq> so i cant just put the files in that folder and they will show up :( 00:18 < theq> doesn;t work 00:18 < MikeRS> you're already using your iPod for music, right? 00:18 < theq> yes 00:19 -!- alxchong [~alxchong@202.70.136.110] has joined #ipodlinux 00:19 < MikeRS> then you just need to make a link in the root of iPodLinux's directory structure to the iPod_Control already on your iPod 00:19 < MikeRS> it will read the database of music you already have 00:19 * theq is dumb so forgive 00:19 < theq> is this in linux on your ipod 00:19 < MikeRS> what operating system do you use for your computer? 00:20 < theq> freebsd 00:20 < theq> I'm 12 so i em sorta noob still.........dad is teaching 00:20 < theq> :P 00:20 < MikeRS> great, you shouldn't have any problem writing to ext2, do you know how to make symbolic links? 00:20 < theq> let me ask dad 00:20 < theq> :P 00:20 < theq> hehe 00:21 < MikeRS> and... I'm just assuming that you have a "Windows" iPod? 00:21 < theq> yes and yes 00:22 < MikeRS> now, do you have the ext2 partition that's on your iPod mounted on your computer? 00:22 < theq> dono 00:22 < MikeRS> is your iPod plugged into your computer in the first place? >_> 00:22 < theq> like the part for putting files beside music 00:22 < theq> yes 00:22 < theq> and mounted 00:23 * theq just set upi otto mount 00:23 < MikeRS> This is the Linux partiton I hope 00:23 -!- ames [~goyomonke@10075.webjogger.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:23 < theq> dont have linux i already said that 00:23 < MikeRS> oh 00:23 < theq> wont boot all the way yet 00:23 < theq> hey ames 00:23 < ames> hi 00:25 < theq> so is it still possible 00:25 < theq> ? 00:25 < MikeRS> yeah 00:25 < theq> sweeeeeeet 00:25 < theq> hehe 00:25 < MikeRS> if you can compile make_fw, you shouldn't have a problem with installing iPodLinux 00:25 < joecool> theq: you probably have the vfat partition with the music on it mounted 00:25 < joecool> i think you want to mount the ext2/3 one 00:25 < theq> is this ritten down some were so dont wast all your time 00:25 < MikeRS> it's pretty well documented in the wiki for all generations (except for unsupported ones: mini 2g, shuffle) 00:26 * theq thinks its to late :P 00:26 < MikeRS> iPL doesn't use ext3 afaik :p 00:26 < theq> wiki 00:26 < theq> ? 00:26 < MikeRS> ipodlinux.org >_> 00:26 < joecool> MikeRS: i think you'll find otherwise 00:27 < joecool> i prefer hfsplus, but my other 4g has ext2 on the userspace partition 00:27 < joecool> i've used ext3.. but i wanted to drop it outta my kernel as i use xfs 00:27 < joecool> and journaling isn't necessary on a mp3 player 00:28 < MikeRS> well, ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2 00:28 < MikeRS> if you have a Linux that doesn't have ext3 support, but ext2 support, you can still mount it as ext2 00:29 < joecool> no, you can't 00:29 < joecool> you could easilly convert it.. but if you mounted it as ext2 (which you can't), it would defeat the purpose of journaling 00:30 < MikeRS> you can mount it as ext2 even if it has a journal 00:30 < MikeRS> the real problem is trying to mount ext3 without a journal 00:30 < MikeRS> basically ext3 is ext2 + /.journal 00:31 < joecool> well.. for the most part, but there is other differences 00:31 < MikeRS> they still should be compatible... 00:31 < joecool> they are.. just not well.. ext2 gets alot less attention then ext3 00:32 < joecool> which is unfortunate.. as i really don't see ext3 as being a very good journaling fs.. 00:32 < MikeRS> journals are attractive for the amazing ability to come back quickly from a shutdown without as many errors 00:32 < MikeRS> improper shutdown, of course 00:33 * joecool wishes ext3 would have an amazing ability to do that :P 00:34 -!- ames [~goyomonke@10075.webjogger.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:34 < courtc> from my experience ext3 is sketchy, but ext2 is very stable.. 00:34 -!- theq [~theq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:35 < joecool> ext2 is very stable.. which is why its unfortunate it gets less attention by the devs 00:35 < joecool> i've never liked ext3 because of small file corruption on improper shutdowns 00:35 < courtc> I use ext2 on my ipods :) 00:36 < joecool> i'm using hfsplus and ext2.. 00:36 < joecool> ext2 is more stable, vfat is a bitch though at times (and slow) 00:36 < joecool> hfsplus has been fast, and aside from the mounting problem and the eating of /etc/rc, fairly stable 00:37 < MikeRS> I haven't had any problems with having ext3 on my partitions ._. 00:37 < joecool> ext3 has improved in terms of latency.. its also a good choice for junk drives as it has high tolerance of bad blocks 00:37 < MikeRS> and about the iPod... is it possible to have a firmware without the Apple operating system, just linux? >_> 00:37 -!- theq [~theq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:37 < joecool> but for throughput and stability its far behind the other fs's 00:37 < theq> sorry url 00:38 < theq> *URL 00:38 < courtc> MikeRS, yup 00:38 < joecool> MikeRS, yes, but since theres no suspend you'd have to shut it off through dialog mode 00:38 < courtc> just use patch_fw rather than make_fw 00:38 < joecool> courtc: make_fw can't have a singular image? 00:39 < MikeRS> heh... could you explain the shutting off part exactly? 00:39 < courtc> it can, but why use an extra bootloader? 00:39 < theq> hey MikeRS you said there is a ipod wiki 00:39 < joecool> courtc: why not? :P 00:39 < theq> could you tell me the URL 00:39 < courtc> because it takes up boot time. 00:39 < joecool> theq: http://www.ipodlinux.org 00:39 < MikeRS> yeah... that's what I was talking of <_< 00:39 < theq> oh 00:39 < joecool> brb, food 00:40 < theq> hehe 00:40 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|food 00:40 * theq feels reall dum all of a suden 00:41 < courtc> theq, how the hell did you get here/download stuff/install ipodlinux? 00:41 < joecool|food> as a closing.. xfs and especially reiser4 have the best fs utils and stability for recovering, though reiser4 has horrible latency (but better throughput on high-end boxes) 00:41 < joecool|food> lol 00:41 * joecool|food is gone 00:41 < MikeRS> reiser4 should be called ricer4 for now.. it breaks a lot of server applications (apache, samba) 00:42 < theq> courtc, what 00:43 < theq> ? 00:44 < courtc> how did you do anything without knowing about the wiki? 00:45 < MikeRS> good question... were you on freenode and decided to /list all the channels and found this? :/ 00:45 < theq> well i didnt no it wzS called the wiki 00:46 < theq> *was 00:46 < MikeRS> the title of the page is WikiPodLinux :p 00:52 < mage> ? 00:52 < mage> nobody looks there 00:52 < Daishi> wait you guys have a webpage? 00:52 < mage> apparently we do! 00:53 < courtc> guess no-one reads the chan title 00:53 < mage> /topic? 00:53 < Daishi> so is there 4g support? 00:54 < courtc> umm.. yea that. 00:54 < Daishi> jk 00:54 < MikeRS> /topic apparently no one reads this 00:54 < MikeRS> <_< 00:54 < mage> courtc: this is freenode, topics are read the FAQ: http://blah , read the faq, no really, read it, did you read it? no asking questions in the faq 00:55 < BleuLlama> mage: well, we hope that people here are smart enough to read it. 00:55 < courtc> we are optimistic about our userbase intelligence 00:56 < mage> hmm, yea I guess iPod + linux cuts out the idiots 00:57 < courtc> I used to think that also. 01:03 < ryannnn> is there a version of ipod-linux that is compatiable with windows instead of OS X 01:05 < courtc> I'm gonna leave that one alone. check out http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinuxinst/ 01:06 < MikeRS> you can install it from any operating system if you have the appropriate software 01:07 < BleuLlama> that is true for any software 01:08 < MikeRS> yeah ... <_< 01:08 < MikeRS> so, who's up for a port of KDE to MS-DOS? :p 01:10 < Daishi> when you want to port fluxbox to freedos call me 01:10 < MikeRS> anyway 01:11 < MikeRS> apparenlty podzilla now has different font support... have any extra fonts been made? 01:21 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["haircut"] 01:23 -!- joecool|food is now known as joecool 01:26 < alxchong> yeh does anyone have any fontlist files to share? 01:27 < alxchong> that would be wicked 01:27 < courtc> heh, I have a utf8 6x12.fnt 01:27 < courtc> my favorite for the mini. 01:28 < courtc> you can use an .pcf or .fnt (from .bdf) files. 01:28 < courtc> *any 01:29 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Fonts has all the details 01:29 -!- tanq [~tanq@66-169-136-135.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 -!- tanq [~tanq@66-169-136-135.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:32 < courtc> you can also probably get pre-converted .fnt files from the rockbox project. 01:35 < alxchong> dont u have to convert them to like ftl or something 01:35 < courtc> umm.. .fnt like I've been saying. 01:36 < courtc> read that page 01:36 < alxchong> ah right cool 01:37 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:37 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-174-3-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:37 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-174-3-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 < alxchong> im not quite sure where to get pcf fonts...ive googles and cant find any good sites 01:39 < alxchong> any suggestions 01:41 < courtc> look for bitmap fonts 01:42 < alxchong> ah found some off rockbox 01:43 < alxchong> where abouts would i put my fontlist file...sorry too many questions 01:43 < alxchong> do u just create directories 01:43 < courtc> read the link i gave 01:44 < alxchong> cheers 01:44 -!- Z_Man [Z_Man@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:51 < mikeazorin> hokay 01:51 < mikeazorin> i've done everything said on the installation from linux page 01:51 < mikeazorin> finished it all with no hitches 01:53 < mikeazorin> bUT... i get the ! folder screen on my ipod photo 01:54 < joshk> did you use make_fw -3? 01:54 < mikeazorin> it didn't say to do that in the wikkki 01:54 < courtc> what bootloader, kernet ec. did you use? 01:54 < joshk> mikeazorin: not supported yet.. :) 01:55 < joshk> seriously, it should be updated. i'll do that in a sec 01:55 < joshk> gotta go eat 01:55 < mikeazorin> for boot loader, i used the i386 one 01:55 < mikeazorin> v 0.3.1 01:55 < courtc> ? 01:55 < courtc> use cvs 01:55 < mikeazorin> hrmph... 01:56 -!- theq [~theq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:56 < mikeazorin> i'll try it tomorrow, someone please update the cvs :-) 01:56 < mikeazorin> **wiki 01:57 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:02 < mikeazorin> so mr. joshk, would you mind telling me what i would need to do that's not on the wiki? 02:03 < mikeazorin> ah, inputattach is broken. SERIO_IPOD_REM undeclared. 02:06 < courtc> where are you having problems alxchong 02:06 < courtc> ? 02:07 < alxchong> on my ipod in I:\usr\share\fonts i have 3 files...two .fnts an a .lst 02:07 < alxchong> the lst contains the data for the 2 fonts files 02:07 < courtc> font.lst? 02:07 < alxchong> but when i boot into podzilla an try to select fonts from settings it says cannot load font.lst 02:07 < alxchong> yep 02:08 < courtc> whats on font.lst? 02:08 < courtc> in* 02:08 < alxchong> # [file] (Name) <size> 02:08 < alxchong> [6x12.fnt] (6x12 utf8) <12> 02:08 < alxchong> [chicago12.fnt] (Chicago) <12> 02:08 < alxchong> without the wierd boxes 02:08 < courtc> ? 02:08 < mikeazorin> mmm chicago.... does that work? 02:08 < courtc> without what boxes? 02:09 < alxchong> ill send it to you 02:09 < alxchong> without the black boxes that show up instead of a tabbed space 02:09 < courtc> oh 02:10 < courtc> what folders do you see on I: ? 02:10 < alxchong> in the root? 02:10 < courtc> mhmm 02:11 < alxchong> calendars, contacts, ipod_control, linux, notes, recordings, videos, usr 02:11 < courtc> yea, thats not going to work. 02:11 < alxchong> how come? 02:11 < courtc> you need those files on the linux partition. 02:12 -!- joecool_ [~joecool@nj-205-240-43-170.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:12 < alxchong> ah yeh...but im not running linux so the partition doesnt show up on windows....thats why i thought it was strange that the wiki said create the directories 02:12 < courtc> create a file 'start' on I:/ with the line: 02:13 < courtc> cp -R /hp/usr/share /usr/ 02:13 < alxchong> ok 02:15 < Fenix-Dark> courtc, what does the -R do? 02:15 < courtc> copies the directory and its contents 02:15 < alxchong> right cool thanks....is that all i need? 02:15 < Fenix-Dark> ok 02:15 < courtc> should be. 02:16 < Fenix-Dark> i need to memorize all the arguments 02:16 < alxchong> cheers ill try now 02:17 < courtc> make sure the file 'start' has no extention. 02:17 < alxchong> haha wicked yeh thanks a lot 02:17 < alxchong> it looks great 02:22 -!- Sliverque [~giveitup@adsl-69-109-254-206.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:22 < Sliverque> What's this I see on the page? video playback!? 02:23 < Sliverque> Is that only on the 4G? 02:23 < Fenix-Dark> its for all supported ipods 02:23 < Sliverque> really!? 02:23 < Sliverque> sweet! 02:23 < Sliverque> what kind of video? 02:24 < Fenix-Dark> non-compressed .avi files 02:24 < Fenix-Dark> that fit the resolution of the ipod 02:24 < Sliverque> how do I uncompress an avi file? 02:24 < Sliverque> and set the resolution? 02:24 < Fenix-Dark> which os are you on? 02:24 < Sliverque> this is so awsome... 02:24 < Sliverque> windows sadly 02:24 < Fenix-Dark> btw audio doesn't work as of now 02:25 < Sliverque> hey, if it's subbed no matter 02:25 < birostick> lol 02:25 < Sliverque> this is so sweet... 02:25 < Fenix-Dark> download mencoder 02:25 < Sliverque> I want a photo now... 02:25 < Sliverque> wait, is color ok even without color screen? 02:25 < aegray> yea right 02:25 < courtc> haha 02:25 < Fenix-Dark> yup, u get 4 color grey scale 02:25 < birostick> :-P 02:26 < alxchong> haha 02:26 < courtc> I have a 24bit 2bit screen 02:26 < Sliverque> mencoder says it's for linux and osx 02:26 < Fenix-Dark> its for windows too 02:26 < Fenix-Dark> i think 02:26 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:27 -!- Z_Man [Z_Man@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Like IRC ? use Gluon IRC !"] 02:28 < Fenix-Dark> are the only hardware differences between the g4 and ipod photo, the screen (ofcourse) and the audio/video output jack? or is there a lot more? 02:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 02:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net ] by courtc 02:28 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b psilocyibn!*@* ] by courtc 02:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by ChanServ 02:37 < mikeazorin> i hear the make_fw command is different for the photo 02:37 < mikeazorin> how exactly does it go? 02:38 < courtc> -3 02:38 < mikeazorin> for example, ./make_fw -3 my_sw.bin blahblahblah 02:38 < mikeazorin> ? 02:38 < courtc> kinda.. ;) 02:38 < courtc> make_fw -3 -o my_sw.bin -i apple_sw.bin -l Image loader.bin 02:40 < mikeazorin> where image is uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.bin? 02:40 < courtc> use a nightly kernel 02:41 < mikeazorin> invalid option -3 02:41 < mikeazorin> i'll get a cvs version... 02:42 < courtc> good call 02:42 < mikeazorin> i'm learning :-0 02:42 < mikeazorin> where is make_fw in the ol' tree? 02:42 < mikeazorin> got it 02:43 -!- Z_Man [Z_Man@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:43 < mikeazorin> it's in ipodloader 02:43 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-174-3-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:43 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:44 -!- Z_Man [Z_Man@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:46 < mikeazorin> it says /dev/sda1 out of space 02:46 < Fenix-Dark> u partition it the right size? 02:46 < mikeazorin> nope 02:48 -!- gp_aaron [~gp_aaron@S0106000d87b24134.tb.shawcable.net] has joined #iPodLinux 02:48 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:51 < mikeazorin> ahk this is a bitch 02:52 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 < mikeazorin> goodnight everyone 02:54 < mikeazorin> please have an official release, it will save me, and a few others, i bet! 02:54 < macpod> it's a bitch because it's not ready for an offical release 02:56 < veteran> has anyone seen phyntos recently? 02:56 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 < veteran> i've never seen him on IRC but curious 02:57 < macpod> Last I've heard of him was from the 1.3 windows install launch 02:57 < veteran> heh... 02:57 * veteran is annoyed by windows noobs in our forums 02:58 < macpod> He should set up a small website on his sf website 02:58 < veteran> i'm probably the only one. 02:58 < veteran> ;) 02:58 < macpod> it helps alot to have all the info consolidated 02:58 < aegray> a lot are 02:58 < Z_Man> who? 02:58 < veteran> nah i don't think a website would help 02:58 < veteran> maybe having an option to install nightly builds directly from the installer 02:58 < macpod> No? If he had a website instead of a file list I think it would help 02:59 < veteran> and explaining why windows can't see ext3 partitions in the actual installer 02:59 < gp_aaron> veteran, can I be a windows noob? 02:59 < gp_aaron> ha no! 02:59 < gp_aaron> i dispise windows 02:59 < veteran> gp_aaron - that means nothing 02:59 < veteran> noobs can despise windows but still use it 02:59 < macpod> In a perfect world phynos would set up his website, unsupported stuff would be moved to it's own forum topic, and I would get a iPod photo :D 03:00 < veteran> nah i dont think separate websites is good 03:00 < gp_aaron> veteran, I've been 100% windows free for about 6 months now 03:00 -!- IpodMiNi6GiG [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 < Z_Man> i dispise windows, but still use it 03:00 < IpodMiNi6GiG> yo 03:00 < Z_Man> you 03:00 < Z_Man> yo* 03:00 < Fenix-Dark> lol 03:00 < veteran> gp_aaron - i've been 28% windows free since yesterday 03:00 < Fenix-Dark> he's back 03:00 < macpod> No? Look at the mac installer website, people download/see help info in the same place, it cuts back drastically on tech support 03:00 < veteran> (got another set top linux box) 03:00 < veteran> http://www.mythtv.com <-- ROCKS 03:00 < gp_aaron> I would like to own a mac though 03:01 * Fenix-Dark hugs his imac 03:01 < macpod> I wanted to see the chinese water torture one.. but missed it 03:01 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 < veteran> macpod - mac users are typically, erm... less annoying and not preteens 03:01 < macpod> You say that.. but it's changing 03:01 < veteran> in simpler words, you have it easy ;) 03:02 < macpod> mmm 03:02 < gp_aaron> veteran, I have a Linux desktop(the one I am on), a linux server(which gpzere.homelinux.org is run on), and somewhere in the basement there is a windows 2k or windows xp box(i can hear someone playing Unreal on it now) 03:02 < macpod> So, what type of trouble do you think I could get into if I wrapped the mencoder in a gui wrapper along with aegray's converter code? 03:02 < veteran> gp_aaron - wtf is linux? 03:02 < aegray> i'll sue you 03:02 < macpod> :O 03:03 < gp_aaron> well it is like cheese 03:03 < gp_aaron> only more gluppie 03:03 < courtc> lunix? 03:03 < gp_aaron> and it has more chunks 03:03 < aegray> oh wait - gpl 03:03 < gp_aaron> and it is still better then windows:) 03:03 < veteran> courtc! haven't seen your six characters in a while 03:03 < courtc> . 03:03 < macpod> Yea, but only offering a compiled version w/o source might cause problems.. 03:03 < courtc> less talk == more code :) 03:04 < macpod> or rather w/o the source to the bin that actually does the converting 03:04 < gp_aaron> how close is the 4th gen to being supported? 03:04 < Z_Man> 90% 03:04 < aegray> eh - make the code available 03:05 < courtc> 2% 03:05 < courtc> yay far | | 03:05 < macpod> I would.. but the mencoder I was goign to use is already compiled for os x 03:05 < gp_aaron> does the installer work with the 4G at least? 03:05 < macpod> No, if it were, that would mean it is supported. 03:05 < courtc> no, (thank goodness) 03:06 < gp_aaron> oh 03:06 < gp_aaron> cvs for me then 03:07 < gp_aaron> bah.. 03:07 < Z_Man> humbug 03:07 < Z_Man> :-p 03:07 < veteran> macpod - you don't want to release the source? 03:08 < macpod> No, the source is not avaliable to me for whatever reason 03:08 < macpod> or least I cannot find it.. probably just need to look harder 03:09 < macpod> http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/ 03:09 < macpod> The way they have the files uploaded is goofy 03:11 < macpod> they have the menucoder-gui source.. but it is missing stuff 03:11 < macpod> they have a compiled mencoder terminal bin... but no source and that is what I would need. 03:11 < macpod> least for distribution so I could offer the source 03:14 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 03:14 -!- IpodMiNi6GiG [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:14 < wendt> tell me, am i the only person getting swarms of n00bs wanting tech support? 03:14 < wendt> or non-n00bs, for that matter? 03:14 < aegray> can you help me install linux? 03:14 < macpod> What's a noob? 03:15 < Fenix-Dark> aegray, u serious? 03:15 < aegray> wendt: i get a folder with an exclamation mark 03:15 < courtc> so will ipodlinux install on my mini 2g? 03:15 < wendt> i know youre joking 03:15 < wendt> ok, just answer my question 03:15 < courtc> how do i get the video player on my ipod? 03:15 < Fenix-Dark> lol 03:16 < courtc> is podzilla better than ipodlinux? 03:16 * wendt is getting very annoyed with ALL THESES FRIGGIN NOOBS!! 03:16 < aegray> haha i like that one 03:16 < macpod> why won't my dvd rip play on my iPod? I converted it to an avi 03:16 < wendt> haha roflmfao 03:16 < Fenix-Dark> heh 03:16 < macpod> How do I install games? (my personal favorite) 03:17 < wendt> do i just double click on them? will that do it? 03:18 < wendt> so im the only one with people asking me questions all the time? 03:18 < macpod> yep 03:19 < wendt> thats not fair! im not even thirteen yet! 03:19 < aegray> neither am I! 03:19 < wendt> whoa... 03:19 < wendt> when were you born? 03:20 < aegray> 12/01/1996 03:20 < wendt> youre lying 03:20 < aegray> i don't lie 03:20 < wendt> i can tell 03:20 < courtc> um.. hes getting younger 03:20 < aegray> haha 03:20 < aegray> i'm too young to do math 03:20 < wendt> you shouldnt be saying haha 03:20 < aegray> why not? 03:21 < wendt> in nine years youll be a little sperm, swimming around in somebodys testicles 03:21 < aegray> been there 03:21 < courtc> hah 03:21 < courtc> but this time you be swimming backwards.. very difficult.. 03:22 < wendt> ya, but to go through it twice, this time with all this knowledge of what youll be doing there! 03:29 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:31 < Sliverque> what's the resolution of the 3G ipod? 03:31 < aegray> 160x128 03:32 < wendt> haha jonrelay, you missed it, all the devs were pretending to be n00bs, it was hilarious 03:32 < aegray> i really actually do need help though - you never helped me 03:33 < Sliverque> oh, do I make a mpeg-1 or mpeg-2? 03:33 < wendt> ask someone else! 03:33 < aegray> but i want ipodlinux on my 4g! 03:33 < aegray> do you make mpeg1 or mpeg2 for what 03:33 < jonrelay> wendt: darnit! 03:33 < Sliverque> to play on the ipod 03:33 < aegray> ? 03:33 < Sliverque> (video) 03:34 < wendt> I JUST ATTEMPTED TO HELP TWO PEOPLE WITH THAT! I WILL NOT HELP ANYONE ELSE! 03:34 < Sliverque> wendt are you speaking to me? 03:34 < wendt> no, im talking to aegray 03:35 < jonrelay> Sliverque: uncompressed AVI. mpeg-nothing. 03:35 < aegray> Sliverque - +5 points for not reading the wiki 03:35 < aegray> i'm creating a noob tracker bot 03:35 -!- gp_aaron [~gp_aaron@S0106000d87b24134.tb.shawcable.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:35 < aegray> it assigns points 03:35 < aegray> based on questions 03:35 < aegray> asked 03:35 < aegray> each month its a competition 03:35 < wendt> @jonrelay ill email you the conversation 03:36 < jonrelay> wendt: ok, cool 03:36 < wendt> whats your email? 03:36 < jonrelay> jonrelay a.t gmail dot com 03:37 < wendt> or do you have aim? 03:37 < courtc> moc.liamg@yalernoj 03:37 < jonrelay> yep, but it's significantly more complicated: tamchel215718 03:38 * courtc wants a top-level domain. courtc. would rock. 03:39 < jonrelay> I just missed 2 messages from wendt because they were too large. 03:39 < wendt> that was only one message 03:39 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:39 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 < jonrelay> I think my IM program's being stupid. 03:39 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Client Quit] 03:39 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:40 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 03:40 * courtc is looking for someone willing to donate a domain courtc.org or 5o2.net 03:41 < jonrelay> hahaha!! 03:41 < courtc> stab in the dark, underwater, and blind. 03:41 * zsr looks for someone willing to donate a domain zsr.net 03:42 < zsr> look at the asking price for that domain 03:42 < courtc> oh well.. 03:42 < zsr> Traffic About 4 unique visitors per month 03:42 < zsr> Minimum Offer $2,450.00 03:42 < zsr> Asking Price $2,450.00 03:42 < zsr> xD 03:43 * zsr laughs his ass off while walking away from the computer 03:43 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:44 < courtc> coob is way cooler than me with his coob.org :/ 03:44 * courtc gets back to code. 03:44 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 03:45 * wendt just missed part of the conversation because ircle just quit 03:47 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:47 < courtc> I think you'll survive 03:48 < wendt> what me? 03:48 < wendt> yeah, i should 03:49 -!- aaroshiz [~oratachi@S0106000d3a721682.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 < aaroshiz> Bah.. Cant offer help with 4G iPods ? 03:51 < jonrelay> I'm a fraid not, said the string. 03:51 -!- alxchong [~alxchong@202.70.136.110] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:52 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["wendt is leaving, because hes really bored now that were done being n00bs"] 03:54 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 03:55 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 04:01 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 < WillyWonka> hello, i am running my ipod in disk mode using usb to connect to my xp computer, and i am trying to install by running the ipod-linux installer, but it continues to report "No Ipod Found!" 04:05 < WillyWonka> if anyone could help or offer suggestions i would be greatly appreciative 04:09 < Fenix-Dark> which generation ipod do you have? 04:10 < aegray> does itunes recognize the ipod? 04:10 -!- tlg [~tlg@117-223.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:12 -!- Tonkajds [~jesse@c-67-162-65-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:15 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:16 -!- aaroshiz [~oratachi@S0106000d3a721682.ed.shawcable.net] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 04:16 -!- tlg [~tlg@184-212.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 04:17 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 < EvilDude> hey people 04:18 < courtc> hello 04:18 < aegray> hello 04:18 < jonrelay> hello 04:18 < EvilDude> rofl 04:18 < EvilDude> how's everyone's coding going today :D 04:20 < courtc> decent 04:21 < EvilDude> hmm anything simple i can do :) ? 04:21 < courtc> simple... 04:21 < aegray> add audio to video 04:21 -!- Tonkajds [~jesse@c-67-162-65-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:21 < EvilDude> haha oh yeah sure :P 04:21 < EvilDude> Something my brain could handle that I am capable of coding ;) 04:22 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 04:24 < courtc> compile mpd for the ipod 04:24 < aegray> thats not bad 04:24 < aegray> (hehe) 04:25 < EvilDude> heh well that's pretty much impossible for me :P 04:25 < courtc> awe comeon. 04:25 < EvilDude> although using normalperson's stuff it cant be that hard 04:25 < Fenix-Dark> EvilDude, lol me too, i'm surprised that i'm able to compile mplayer for my mac 04:25 < EvilDude> reminds me, for mpd stuff are you working on your own port, or using normalperson's 04:25 < Fenix-Dark> =P 04:26 < courtc> mostly np's but with our own little additions. 04:26 < EvilDude> ah ok 04:27 < courtc> I need an mpd to test with though, and I'm too retarded/lazy to compile it myself. 04:27 < EvilDude> haha 04:27 < EvilDude> And so you expect *ME* to compile something :P! 04:28 < courtc> can't be that hard there are directions and everything (thats what I told myself also :/) 04:28 < EvilDude> haha 04:34 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:45 < courtc> $ file src/mpd 04:45 < courtc> src/mpd: BFLT executable - version 4 ram 04:45 * courtc <-- winner 04:46 < aegray> you got it? 04:46 < courtc> looks like it. 04:46 < aegray> yay! 04:50 < courtc> spits out usage, I guess thats a good sign 04:51 < aegray> yea 04:53 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 04:53 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:55 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:55 < WillyWonka> hey 04:55 < WillyWonka> i found my error, apparently you need administrative rights to your ipod to install it 04:56 < WillyWonka> yay! 04:56 < macpod> are you using the os x installer? 04:58 < courtc> nah, hes a Winders boy. 04:58 < macpod> tisk 05:00 < urbanvanilla> yes, with the pro mac ambience, coming in here truly is like another world 05:00 < urbanvanilla> hello :) 05:04 < courtc> mpd won't start :/ 05:04 < aegray> ugh 05:04 < aegray> messages? 05:05 < courtc> maybe it realises theres no songs in its db ;) 05:05 < aegray> that doesn't matter (i did it on mine) 05:06 < courtc> huh, it created a db and log files. 05:06 < aegray> did it say it died? 05:06 < courtc> nope 05:06 < aegray> it just finished execution? 05:07 < aegray> you cant connect 6600? 05:07 < courtc> yea, as far as I can tell 05:07 < aegray> k 05:08 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:12 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:16 < courtc> cannot allocate. :/ 05:16 < aegray> shite 05:23 -!- WillyWonka [~WillyWonk@24-117-38-14.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:30 < aegray> ugh we have to alphebetize this ourselves 05:35 -!- joecool_ is now known as joecool 05:38 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- Sliverque [~giveitup@adsl-69-109-254-206.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 06:16 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 06:18 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:38 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 06:39 -!- pacroon [~pacroon@83.73.64.63.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:48 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:50 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 06:52 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ipodlinux ["So long and thanks for all the fish."] 06:53 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 06:59 < urbanvanilla> do the hustle 07:00 < joecool> do do do do do dodo do do.. 07:00 < joecool> wow.. that was pointless.. 07:01 < urbanvanilla> yep 07:10 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:11 < Izz^> Broken pencil. 07:16 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 07:17 < urbanvanilla> Aggravated nostril 07:17 < joecool> taco bell 07:19 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 07:21 < urbanvanilla> we have a winnah 07:24 < Izz^> Hmm... nostrils and taco bell have a point. 07:28 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:30 < urbanvanilla> so do pencils. 07:30 < urbanvanilla> literally. 07:35 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 07:37 < joecool> hmm.. zzzz 07:37 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 07:38 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:42 -!- carote [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 -!- pacroon [~pacroon@83.73.64.63.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 07:49 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 07:50 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:53 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:54 < urbanvanilla> sooo 07:54 < urbanvanilla> anything cool happen today 07:54 < urbanvanilla> ipl-wise 08:08 -!- Appelmoes [~appel@ip-81-11-209-196.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 08:16 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 08:19 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 08:20 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:22 < urbanvanilla> does anyone read joy of tech 08:22 < urbanvanilla> because i think it sucks 08:25 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:30 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:31 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:34 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:40 < joshk> hey 08:40 < joshk> for any kernel hackers around 08:41 < joshk> 2g mini dies in calibrate_delay, on while (jiffies == ticks) /* do nothing */ 08:41 < z3ro> huh? the 2g mini boots? 08:41 < joshk> it dies early on in the kernel 08:41 < joshk> and the LCD doesn't work yet 08:42 < z3ro> I was under the impression it did not boot at all. 08:42 < joshk> it's getting there 08:42 < joshk> well 08:42 < joshk> it's pretty much unusable still.. 08:42 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-092.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:43 < z3ro> joshk: on the embedded board I am currently working with, it dies at calibrate_delay too, and I suspect this is because the irq's are not working properly. 08:43 < joshk> z3ro: is it the same kind of ARM? 08:43 < joshk> that makes sense 08:43 < z3ro> joshk: mips 08:44 < z3ro> joshk: but the idea is the same... 08:44 < z3ro> joshk: it could be that the irq's or the timer irq is not working on the mini g2. 08:45 < joshk> if that's indeed the case 08:45 < joshk> it'll be a tough cookie to crack 08:46 < joshk> irq.c = lots of black magic 08:46 < z3ro> hmm... I guess it's not so bad for the mips board I'm working with: I have a working 2.4.17 kernel... moving to 2.4.30 though, where the irq implementation changed a lot. 08:46 < joshk> 2.4.24 is what ipodlinux uses 08:47 < z3ro> any specific reason for that kernel version? for me, it's because 2.4.30 is about the last kernel that can use modules from 2.4.17 (with a compatibility layer) 08:47 < joshk> i think it's a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy for ipodlinux 08:47 < joshk> but maybe i'm just misinformed.. not sure 08:49 < z3ro> or maybe no one has had time to port to 2.6 yet. 08:49 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:49 < joshk> oh, 2.6 barely works 08:49 < joshk> *that* i know 08:49 < joshk> i was wondering why 2.4.24 and not 2.4.29 or so 08:50 < z3ro> hmm 08:50 < z3ro> now I can't decide if I should hunt for a g1 mini, or just get the g2... 08:51 < z3ro> though I'm guessing if I ask a reseller for a g1 mini they will just give me a blank look, and say "g2 better, you buy!" 08:51 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:51 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 < joshk> hehe 08:54 < joshk> it's ridiculously late here.. gnight 08:54 < z3ro> okay, good night 08:55 < Appelmoes> it's almost noon here :) 08:56 < z3ro> 8:55pm here... but I only woke up a few hours ago. 08:56 * z3ro sleeps in the day 08:56 < Appelmoes> :) 08:56 < Appelmoes> that isn't an option for me 08:58 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:39 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:39 -!- macpod1 [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:45 < coob> z3ro: you can probably get a g1 from ebay 09:45 < z3ro> coob: you can still buy them from some places in nz... but I'm not sure which generation to buy yet 09:45 < coob> ah ok 09:45 < z3ro> g2 support seems like it's at the "almost make a kernel boot" stage 09:45 < z3ro> so I might be best just to wait. 09:46 < coob> ah yeah i can't imagine it being too long now 09:46 < coob> seeing how its mostly register compatible 09:47 < coob> reason for not using a newer kernel: there's few kernel devs and they spend more time on RE than on merging newer kernel sources 09:48 < coob> there was a move to 2.6 a while back but 2.6 had quite a few problems with either ide or hfs drivers that caused a lot of filesystem corruption, though that problem may be gone now... 09:48 < z3ro> I see 09:48 < coob> (i think... i wasn't around back then) 09:48 < coob> but the 2.6 stuff in cvs is way out of date 09:48 < coob> i.e. no 4g stuff 09:49 < z3ro> okay 09:50 -!- rabbit_ [user@203-96-148-127.apx1.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 09:54 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:55 < coob> if we were to use 2.6 it would most likely be based on http://opensrc.sec.samsung.com/ 09:55 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:04 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 10:18 < rabbit_> I know its not exactly permitted in this channel, but, I used the guide from http://www.ipodlinux.org/4G_Installer to install linux onto my 4g ipod. Now I've had my fun, how do I change it back/ 10:19 < EvilDude> isnt it a dual boot :| 10:19 < EvilDude> so you dont need to change back 10:19 < EvilDude> apple should be fine 10:20 < rabbit_> how do I load up the apple OS then? 10:20 < rabbit_> as I have it so linux boots up on default 10:20 < Appelmoes> hold reverse while booting 10:20 < EvilDude> ohh then press << 10:20 < rabbit_> reverse? 10:21 < Appelmoes> << 10:21 < Appelmoes> :) 10:21 < Appelmoes> left arrow :) 10:21 < rabbit_> it still hates me 10:22 < EvilDude> hmm are you holding it down 10:22 < EvilDude> after reset 10:22 < EvilDude> and keep holding it down 10:22 < EvilDude> till apple boots? 10:22 < rabbit_> I';m holding it down till podzilla boots 10:22 < EvilDude> hmm that sucks 10:22 < Appelmoes> lol 10:22 < EvilDude> use disk mode then 10:23 < rabbit_> its not recognising it 10:23 < Appelmoes> you sure you made linux default? 10:23 < rabbit_> when I restart the ipod it goes straight to linux 10:34 < Appelmoes> go to diagnostics and diskmode 10:34 < Appelmoes> and load a backup 10:34 < Appelmoes> or if you dont have one, repair with the ipod software, but make sure you copied your files/music 10:36 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:43 < rabbit_> is that in the linux menu? 10:45 < Appelmoes> no diagnostic 10:48 < rabbit_> how do i get to that? 10:48 < Appelmoes> sec 10:49 < Appelmoes> the why i do it: resetting the ipod and pressing like a mad man on action and reverse (middle button and left arrow) 10:49 < Appelmoes> :p 10:50 < rabbit_> heh 10:51 < Appelmoes> it worked? 10:51 < rabbit_> nope 10:51 < Appelmoes> lol :) 10:51 < Appelmoes> retry 10:51 < Appelmoes> :) 10:52 < rabbit_> 4th time and still; not working 10:53 < Appelmoes> odd, 10:53 < Appelmoes> works fine with me 10:53 < Appelmoes> just a sec 10:53 < rabbit_> 4g 20gb? 10:53 < Appelmoes> 4g photo 10:54 < Appelmoes> http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/backstage-new-ipod-4g-diagnostics/ 10:54 < rabbit_> got it ^^ 10:54 < Appelmoes> :) 10:55 < rabbit_> hold the select and rewind ^^ 10:55 < Appelmoes> well .. 10:55 < Appelmoes> :) 10:55 < Appelmoes> anyway, now diskmode 10:55 < Appelmoes> and you can mount it again :p 10:56 < rabbit_> got it ^-^ 10:59 < rabbit_> fix0r3d! 10:59 < Appelmoes> :) 11:00 < rabbit_> thank you very much for the help 11:00 < Appelmoes> np :) 11:01 < rabbit_> ipod linux was cool 11:01 < rabbit_> awesome games :P 11:02 < rabbit_> didn't play music though :/ 11:03 < Appelmoes> no? 11:03 < Appelmoes> mine works pretty good :) 11:03 < rabbit_> well, it played mp3s very slowly, and I couldn't sort stuff 11:03 < Appelmoes> ah ... old kernel 11:03 < Appelmoes> the new one works faster mp3 are working fine now 11:03 < rabbit_> oO 11:04 -!- joecool|sleep [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["out"] 11:04 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:04 -!- macpod1 [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:13 < rabbit_> I coudln't get stepmania running with dsoun either 11:13 < rabbit_> IU was thinking of trying to add some .dwi files once I find the time 11:19 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-092.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:32 < Fenix-Dark> i wonder how long until the ipod video player will show up on slashdot 11:47 < urbanvanilla> dude! stepmania 11:47 < urbanvanilla> i totally forgot about it 12:04 < coob> seeing how slashdot is usually about a month behind engadget 12:04 < coob> i'd say about 3 weeks. 12:04 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:06 < EvilDude> haha 12:10 < EvilDude> I hope they dont /. us yet 12:10 < EvilDude> video player with sound, and music playback in mpd now that's something that is a lot better ;) 12:10 < coob> yipyip 12:11 < coob> now i've had a decent nights sleep i'll see if i can figure out mpd's build system :/ 12:11 < Appelmoes> that would be very nice of you :p 12:14 < coob> it uses an old aclocal/autoconf/automake, rather than change everything to suit my 1.9 i might just move back to 1.6 12:19 -!- Oliverro [~Oliverro@123.116.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 12:21 < EvilDude> i hate that whole package :( 12:21 < EvilDude> good when it works 12:21 < EvilDude> and hell when you have to make it work 12:24 -!- rabbit_ [user@203-96-148-127.apx1.paradise.net.nz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:31 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ipodlinux 12:40 < coob> well 12:40 < coob> i think i have my build problems sorted :D 12:43 < EvilDude> woot 12:44 < coob> unfortunately tis now a coding problem heh 12:45 < EvilDude> what are you gonna be coding 12:45 < coob> putting the helix mp3 stuff in mpd... 12:45 < coob> then there's aac, aac etc 12:45 < coob> alac* 12:45 < EvilDude> ah ouch 12:46 < EvilDude> I think mpd allows different ways to code the plugins 12:46 < EvilDude> and there is an easy way that basically just calls you to decode and you can just have the loop for decoding like we have in podzilla 12:46 < coob> yeah 12:47 < coob> but mp3 isn't simple like aac :/ 12:47 < EvilDude> But I think the other way decodnig by frame is better coz that way you get seek etc by mpd 12:47 < EvilDude> haha damn, why not 12:47 < coob> i'm not worrying about seeking straight away... 12:47 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 12:48 < EvilDude> yeah true 13:02 -!- OLwork [~snak@193.11.14.76] has joined #ipodlinux 13:06 -!- Petter|Gone is now known as Petterminator 13:08 -!- Oliverro_ [~Oliverro@123.116.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 13:10 -!- aegray_ [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:11 < EvilDude> hey aegray 13:16 < EvilDude> well im going for the night, gl coob ;) 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over 1394 16:18 -!- roowie [roowie@1-1-1-16a.kis.sth.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:18 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["Going back to coding"] 16:19 < courtc> haha 16:19 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:19 < fre_ber_> Computers 101... 16:20 < courtc> so bitwise OR ... ... 16:20 < fre_ber_> lol 16:21 < fre_ber_> The ssh thread is also quite amusing. :) 16:22 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 16:22 < Oliverro_> can we convert IEEE 1394 to RJ-45? 16:22 < fre_ber_> Yes, with a sledgs hammer. 16:22 < fre_ber_> -s +e 16:24 < fre_ber_> If you press hard enough you can make it fit. 16:24 < Oliverro_> pfffff 16:24 < Oliverro_> you are the "retarded"... 16:25 < courtc> haha] 16:25 < courtc> hes catching on well. :) 16:25 < fre_ber_> Well, IEE-1394 is a protocol while RJ-45 is a connector. Figure it out... 16:25 < fre_ber_> +E 16:25 < Oliverro_> i know it 16:25 < fre_ber_> (I know I can't type, but that isn't the issue at hand) 16:25 < Oliverro_> :P 16:25 < courtc> HAH 16:25 < Fenix-Dark> man, it takes quite a while to re-encode a video 16:26 -!- fre_ber_ is now known as fre_ber 16:26 -!- Bi-noix_ [~Bi-noix@213.223.78.144] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:27 < Oliverro_> fre_ber i just want to know if there is an issue to connect my ipod to a ethernet network... 16:27 < fre_ber> Well, you need an ethernet controller, the iPod doesn't have that. 16:27 < Oliverro_> Yeah but if i take my 16:27 < thunder_3k1> sure? 16:27 < Oliverro_> 2s ^^ 16:28 < Oliverro_> uhm 16:28 < Oliverro_> thx 4 ur help fre_ber... 16:28 < fre_ber> ? 16:29 < coob> Fenix-Dark: what are you reencoding? 16:29 < courtc> I think he meant: Thanks for your help fre_ber. 16:29 < Fenix-Dark> a 30 minute anime show 16:29 < fre_ber> What help? 16:29 < coob> for the photo? 16:29 < fre_ber> :D 16:29 < Fenix-Dark> coob, yup 16:29 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:29 < coob> yeah that will end up being aroun 1.5gb 16:29 < Fenix-Dark> its taking 18 minutes to reencode 16:30 < Oliverro_> fr_ber, it's ironic 16:30 < Fenix-Dark> yea, 1.58 gigs 16:30 < coob> .. get a faster computer then 16:30 < Cippo> ehm, what is the password and username to the ipod? root? 16:30 < courtc> sarcastic? 16:30 < courtc> root:default 16:30 < Fenix-Dark> coob, i'm not complaining, i'm just a bit surprised 16:30 < Cippo> ok 16:30 < courtc> wait, are you hacking into my ipod? 16:30 < coob> well its all uncompressed data 16:30 < courtc> why did I just give you my password? 16:31 < Cippo> hmm, default doesnt work 16:31 < Cippo> hehe 16:31 < fre_ber> rofl 16:31 < coob> um 16:31 < coob> are you telneting in? 16:31 < Cippo> yeah 16:31 < Cippo> i'll just mdcrack it :) 16:32 < coob> or edit /etc/passwd 16:32 < Cippo> yeah 16:32 < Cippo> funnier to mdcrack :) 16:32 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea10f.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:32 < coob> sure its not blan?k 16:32 < Cippo> hmm, ill try :) 16:33 < Cippo> didnt work 16:33 < coob> root:root 16:33 < Cippo> tried that too 16:34 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 16:35 < Cippo> btw, what encryption is used on the password? 16:36 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:36 < Cippo> and btw, telent wasn't open, but ssh was.... is that wrong?? 16:36 < Cippo> rofl 16:36 < Cippo> i logged into this computer :) 16:37 < courtc> nice. 16:37 < coob> you are the "retarded"... 16:37 < Cippo> hehe :) 16:37 < coob> ciao 16:37 < Cippo> pinged it and stuff 16:39 < Cippo> i got up the eth1 16:39 < Cippo> and used ifconfig to set it up 16:39 < Cippo> but it seems like it points to me :o 16:40 < Cippo> hmmmm 16:40 < courtc> ifconfig eth1 192.168.222.1 mtu 170 16:40 < Cippo> did that 16:41 < courtc> ping 192.168.222.2 16:41 < Cippo> doesnt seem like 192.168.222.2 is available 16:41 < courtc> well, thats a problem. 16:41 < Cippo> yup 16:41 < courtc> used to only work 1/5 of the time for me. 16:42 < Cippo> k 16:42 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-14-249.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:43 -!- carote_ [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:47 -!- poolio [~poolio@pcp0011738677pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 -!- Oliverro_ [~Oliverro@123.116.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:52 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 16:53 -!- carote_ [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-14-249.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:55 < Cippo> is there any way to find out what programs that use a certain module? 16:55 < courtc> module? 16:55 < Cippo> i get ERROR: Module ipodeth1394 is in use when i try to rmmod 16:55 < courtc> oh. 16:55 < courtc> module 16:56 < courtc> ifconfig eth1 down 16:56 < Cippo> well, the problem is ifconfig -a doesnt show any eth1 16:56 < Cippo> it was the eth1394 that made the eth1 16:56 < Cippo> and i rmmoded that one 16:57 < courtc> you have both eth1394 and ipodeth1394? 16:57 < Cippo> ehm, yeah 16:57 < Cippo> i was planing just to mount one of the, 16:57 < Cippo> *them 16:57 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Like GPL Licenses ? Use Gluon IRC !"] 16:57 < courtc> guess that didn't work out like planned? 16:58 < Cippo> nope :) 16:58 < Cippo> and there was some error in the compile of the module 16:58 < courtc> which? 16:58 < Cippo> ipodeth1394 16:58 < Cippo> had to change a line to make it work..... 16:58 < courtc> which error? 16:58 < Cippo> mac.ethernet --> mac.raw 16:58 < Cippo> there was no ethernet 16:58 < Cippo> member of mac 16:59 < courtc> yea, you used that patch? 16:59 < Cippo> uhm, no, i have a 2.6.9 16:59 < Cippo> it said i only had to use it if i was 2.6.9+ 16:59 < Cippo> *newer than 2.6.9 16:59 < courtc> just patch it. 17:00 < Cippo> okay 17:00 < Cippo> think i gonna take a reboot too. 17:00 < courtc> reboots are good for the soul 17:00 < Cippo> hehe, yah 17:06 < Cippo> patching file ipodeth1394.c 17:06 < Cippo> Hunk #1 FAILED at 453. 17:06 < Cippo> patch: **** malformed patch at line 17: packet_task), 17:06 < Cippo> hmm 17:08 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:09 < courtc> just patch it by hand.. 17:09 < courtc> remove the lines with -'s add the lines with +'s 17:10 < Cippo> mmm 17:12 -!- BleuLlama is now known as BleuC 17:13 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["Going back to coding"] 17:14 -!- BleuC is now known as BleuLlama 17:16 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-14-249.mnet-online.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- carote_ [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:18 -!- carote_ [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 < Cippo> the modules kinda locked my computer.... 17:23 < Cippo> *module 17:24 < courtc> yup, its not stable 17:24 < Cippo> why doesnt the eth1394 work? 17:24 < fre_ber> Has there been any more attempts to get the 2.6 kernel work on iPod? 17:25 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:25 < courtc> because the ipod doesn't support spec eth over 1394 17:25 < courtc> davidc__ has the details 17:25 < courtc> fre_ber, not really 17:26 < fre_ber> I wish I was clever enough to try to do something apout that ARP driver myself. :( 17:27 < Cippo> courtc, is it a software or hardware problem? 17:27 < fre_ber> There is a thread abou it, let me see if I can find it. 17:28 < BleuLlama> what's the speed of 1g ipods? (it's not on the "Generations" wiki page) 17:28 -!- Bi_noix [~Bi-noix@80.125.213.67] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < fre_ber> I guess that there are more than one thread about it, here is one: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=479 17:29 < courtc> 75mhz 17:30 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 17:30 < courtc> the pp5002's cores are spec'd at 90mhz 17:30 < BleuLlama> okey. thanks. :) 17:30 < courtc> pp5020 80mhz 17:31 < veteran> uhm, what happened? 17:31 < courtc> ? 17:31 < veteran> more people here than usual 17:32 < courtc> looks like they're all regulars though.. 17:32 * BleuLlama is irregular today 17:32 < BleuLlama> hmm 17:33 < BleuLlama> probably not what you meant 17:33 < courtc> :) 17:33 < fre_ber> :) 17:33 < BleuLlama> :) 17:33 < BleuLlama> i just thought of a good reason to actually make my phone dialer 17:33 < BleuLlama> i had scrapped the thought to work on it, since you can just have tone .wavs in a playlist and play them 17:34 < fre_ber> Cippo: I have my hopes up for this post in particular, but my hopes are fading: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5728#5728 17:34 < BleuLlama> but when we do parsing of address book type stuff, we can have a [dial this phone number] button 17:34 < Cippo> hmm, i saw it... 17:34 < Cippo> if the ipodeth1394 modules was stable that would be nice...... 17:35 < Cippo> wouldn't work on windows though 17:35 < fre_ber> I t still wouldn't help me since I desperately cling to Bill Gates. 17:35 < Cippo> hehe, let him go :) 17:35 * BleuLlama <3 Bill Gates 17:36 < davidc__> courtc - what details do I have? 17:36 < fre_ber> I know... 17:36 < BleuLlama> I AM LESS THAN THREE BILL GATES! 17:36 < Appelmoes> lol 17:36 < fre_ber> Eh... 17:36 * BleuLlama changes to a sans-serif font 17:36 < Cippo> hmm, guess i should try adding "All albums" to podzilla now :) 17:36 < Cippo> that's a feature i really miss 17:36 < courtc> Cippo, don't 17:37 < Cippo> why not? 17:37 < courtc> we plan on scrapping itunes support in podzilla soon and relocating it. 17:37 < Cippo> oh 17:39 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:39 < Cippo> btw, why not write podzilla in c++? 17:40 < aegray> what advantage would it give? 17:40 < Cippo> uhm, easier to read the code for me? ;) 17:40 < aegray> haha 17:40 < fre_ber> bzzt 17:40 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 17:41 < Appelmoes> in that case make it java ;) 17:41 < Cippo> and using some virtual classes and stuff could become quite nice...... 17:41 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@84.4.132.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:41 < Cippo> Appelmoes, do you want to hear your songs in 0,1 times the speed they are supposed to? 17:41 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 17:41 < Fenix-Dark> grrrr 17:42 < Appelmoes> :p 17:42 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@adsl-69-155-230-102.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:42 < Fenix-Dark> i'm trying to install linux onto my ipod, (mac w/os 10.4.1) doing sudo dd if=ipodlinux_sw.bin of=/dev/disk4s2 says "dd: /dev/disk4s2: Resource busy" 17:42 < aegray> its mounted 17:42 < aegray> unmount it 17:42 < Fenix-Dark> ok 17:44 < Fenix-Dark> it still says that 17:44 < aegray> dunno 17:46 < Fenix-Dark> does it have to be formatted with a mac to be installed on a mac? 17:50 < Appelmoes> no 17:50 < Cippo> hmm, ok, think i found it out now... 17:50 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 < Cippo> had SMP enabled... 17:50 < Fenix-Dark> disktool -l shows only 2 partitions on the ipod 17:50 < fre_ber> About MPD, assuming that we, some day, get the Ethernet over FireWire up to spec, would I be able to use an MPD client on, for example a Windows machine, to manage my MPD music store entirely located on my iPod? 17:50 < Fenix-Dark> disk4s1 and disk4s2 17:51 < courtc> fre_ber, yep 17:52 < fre_ber> Sounds nice. I was just worried for a millisecond that you people really would do anything to shut us Windows users out. ;) 17:53 < Cippo> fre_ber, why not try linuxon your PC? you like the way it works on the ipod doesnt you? 17:53 < Cippo> *linux on 17:53 < joshk> blah, where is leachbj 17:53 < Appelmoes> ubuntu is nice for starters ... 17:53 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 17:53 < Appelmoes> saw a friend running it on his ibook 17:53 < BleuLlama> sweden i think? 17:54 < fre_ber> I use linux on my server and I have it as dual boot on my laptop, but I like to play games on my main pc. 17:54 < Cippo> i see 17:54 * BleuLlama misses the reason to put linux on an OS X capabale mac. 17:54 < BleuLlama> *capable 17:55 * Cippo misses the reason to buy an mac.... 17:55 < fre_ber> Llama, leachbj is in sweden?!? 17:55 < courtc> joshk, on his way home from work. 17:55 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i thought someone here was. 17:55 < BleuLlama> heh 17:55 < Appelmoes> ibooks are nice with mac, but even nicer with linux :p 17:55 < fre_ber> Well, I am. ;) 17:55 < Appelmoes> same goes for ipod ;) 17:55 < Cippo> :) 17:56 < BleuLlama> so, you'd rather remove a real unix to put a unix-like system onto it? okay. 17:56 < courtc> london* 17:56 < joshk> courtc: blah 17:56 < joshk> now _i'm_ the one at owrk :p 17:56 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama jip :) 17:56 < BleuLlama> Cippo: if you're just gonna install linux on it, then yeah. get a pc. 17:56 < Cippo> mmmmm 17:57 < Appelmoes> that is the reason I bought a mac in the first place 17:57 < courtc> linus: yellowdog, but hes a weirdo. 17:57 < Appelmoes> bought myself a nice inspiron 8600, when it arived booted it once in windows, formated it and installed gentoo on it 17:58 < Cippo> that's the spirit :) 17:58 < Appelmoes> don't know why I booted it once in windows 17:58 < BleuLlama> i just built an Athalon XP 3000+ box and installed Windows XP on it, single-boot. 17:58 < Appelmoes> but you are running linux on your ipod 17:58 < Cippo> you didnt get an x86-64? 17:58 < BleuLlama> not when i want to listen to music and such. 17:59 < BleuLlama> cippo: nope. not necessary for what i want to use the machine for 17:59 < Cippo> i see 17:59 < Cippo> 64bits is da future man! :) 17:59 < BleuLlama> my 4g ipod is always in apple firmware (never installed ipl on it) my 1g ipod is only for ipl testing. 17:59 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:59 < Appelmoes> I must say, with the latest kernel my ipod photo is playing music even better than in apple firmware 18:00 < Cippo> my mini is playing music nicely too 18:00 < Cippo> atleast after i installed the kernel with the speedup :) 18:00 < Appelmoes> www.appelmoes.be/ipodmovieplayer.mpg this is my good looking ipod photo :p 18:00 < Appelmoes> (sound came from my laptop) 18:01 < BleuLlama> well, i wanted to make a decent gaming machine for around $700. 64 bit was unneccessary. (Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, Tron 2.0, Doom 3, City Of Heroes) 18:01 < Cippo> mmmmm 18:01 < Appelmoes> beh doom 3 18:01 < BleuLlama> Doom 3 was for the wife, mainly. 18:01 < joshk> whoahhhhhh 18:01 < joshk> Appelmoes: that is sweet 18:01 < BleuLlama> i tried playing a little, but i like the other games more 18:01 < joshk> family guy! 18:02 < BleuLlama> anyway. back to work 18:02 < Appelmoes> :) 18:02 < Cippo> well, i dont use my machine much for playing, but a fast processor is nice when you gonna compile big shit... 18:02 < Appelmoes> true 18:02 < BleuLlama> my Mac is for real work. 18:02 < BleuLlama> or the Sun here at work 18:02 < courtc> balde 1000! 18:02 < courtc> blade* 18:02 < Cippo> would have been cool to have a huge cluster in the celler :) 18:03 < BleuLlama> Blade 1000, yeah 18:03 < BleuLlama> with two 20" monitors. :) 18:03 < Appelmoes> there is just one thing I hate about sun, solaris :p 18:03 < BleuLlama> haha. you crack me up. 18:04 < Appelmoes> our server at the university is running it, damn I hate it 18:04 < BleuLlama> and it's just *soo* different than linux, eh? 18:05 < Appelmoes> it is just the little details 18:05 < courtc> so an attempt at unix is better than unix? /me confused 18:06 < BleuLlama> that's what i'm getting too. 18:06 < Appelmoes> :) 18:06 < Cippo> i think me and Appelmoes agree, linux rules them all!! :) 18:07 < Appelmoes> :D 18:07 < Cippo> hmm, i wanna port linux to my cell phone :/ 18:07 < courtc> and how much have you actually used a unix? 18:07 < BleuLlama> heh. 18:07 < Cippo> eh, never :) 18:08 < Appelmoes> I have atm 4 pc's all running gentoo 18:08 < Cippo> cluster them!!! :) 18:09 < courtc> heh, a 2.4.28 openmosix gentoo cluster, how entirely messed up. 18:10 < BleuLlama> cippo: which clustering scheme would you use? 18:10 < joecool> lol 18:10 < Cippo> hehe, the best :) 18:10 < courtc> 2.4.26-1 ** 18:10 < joecool> courtc: oh yeah.. bleeding edge 18:10 < joecool> :P 18:10 < BleuLlama> the best. for what? Which scheme is "the best" (for everything, i'm guessing?) 18:11 < Cippo> uhm, i dunno, i dont have enough computers to cluster..... 18:11 < Cippo> he has 18:11 < Appelmoes> 2 here and 2 at home 18:12 < courtc> I have 6 comps here, none clustered ;) 18:12 < BleuLlama> all of the solaris boxes here are clustered (desktop, as well as dedicated machines) 18:13 -!- Hostile_ [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 < BleuLlama> we often get measurements in terms of man-years for batch computer jobs per week 18:13 < BleuLlama> -man +cpu 18:13 -!- originalTHP [~thomas@L0009P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 18:13 < BleuLlama> between machines in our center here, as well the machines over in the CS building. 18:14 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:14 < _KDE> ill get a pentium 640 18:14 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:14 < Cippo> you got your own counter strike building? ;p 18:14 -!- eF|tool`` [knifesnipe@spc1-reig2-4-0-cust149.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:14 < courtc> *cough* 18:14 < Appelmoes> hehehe 18:14 < originalTHP> where do i start getting iPL to work for mini G2? i guess i have to go and try to edit the bootloader code? 18:14 < eF|tool``> uh hi 18:14 < joecool> *vomit* 18:15 < eF|tool``> I was just wondering if putting linux on an iPod would allow you to use codecs for stuff like FLAC, MPC, OGG etc 18:15 < _KDE> MINI "G NOT SUPPORTED !!!!!!!!!!!! 18:15 < joecool> (sorry.. i ate 10 white castle burgers.. i'm quite full) 18:15 < eF|tool``> libflac etc 18:15 < BleuLlama> KDE: I agree, we should have upper and lowercase numbers. 18:15 < _KDE> yeah, would be cool 18:15 < Cippo> hehe :) 18:15 < eF|tool``> they'd have an angry feel. 18:15 < Cippo> chemistry got....... 18:15 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama I have that :p 18:15 < joecool> originalTHP: go for it.. but don't bug us for help.. theres no support 18:15 < _KDE> mini ² 18:15 -!- originalTHP [~thomas@L0009P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:15 < Appelmoes> french azerty keyboard :) 18:16 < eF|tool``> but can you use new libs for the player 18:16 < Appelmoes> < Belgium 18:16 < BleuLlama> watch your mouth 18:16 < _KDE> who? me? 18:16 < BleuLlama> applemoes 18:16 < Appelmoes> ? 18:16 * courtc gets it 18:17 < _KDE> it seems klike he hates people from belgium 18:17 < joecool> Appelmoes said the "F" word 18:17 < Appelmoes> ooh 18:17 < Appelmoes> don't worry I don't speak that ugly F thingy 18:17 -!- originalTHP [~thomas@L0009P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ipodlinux 18:17 < joecool> k, k 18:17 < BleuLlama> what? French? no. 18:17 < courtc> BleuLlama, the crowd is too young.. :/ 18:17 < Appelmoes> belgium the upper part 18:17 < Appelmoes> flemisch 18:17 < BleuLlama> courtc; must be 18:18 < eF|tool``> fock? 18:18 < Cippo> ehm, you hate france? 18:18 < eF|tool``> thats O, not U 18:18 < originalTHP> i know it is not supported.. i just want to get an idea how to get on that code, where to start. i also realize the devs have no time and no mini 2Gs, therefore i want to give it another try 18:18 < eF|tool``> it is used primarily by angry men with beards. From newcastle. 18:18 < BleuLlama> i visited Paris last september. one of the most beautiful cities i've ever seen. the people were wonderful, the food was wonderful. (no sarcasm. i'm serious) 18:18 < _KDE> iIT DOES NOT WORK ON ²G MINIS 18:18 < joecool> eF|tool``: how about whitecastle 18:18 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@2001:1638:18ff:5:242:242:242:242] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 < joecool> i was just ther 18:19 < joecool> e 18:19 < eF|tool``> but uh yeah, can you use custom audio formats in podzilla/ 18:19 < BleuLlama> London also. excellent food... both places were completely opposite from stereotypes. (French people being rude, brits having bad food... both untrue) 18:19 < Appelmoes> I don't hate them, but what I do hate is the fact that they expect us to speak their language and don't try to speak someone elses language 18:19 < Cippo> what's wrong with the mini 2g anyway? does it die on the start or something? 18:20 < courtc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium_%28disambiguation%29 18:20 < BleuLlama> Appelmoes: you crack me up. 18:20 < joecool> BleuLlama: not been to france.. but french-canadian are obnoxious as hell 18:20 < joecool> (not all.. just most) 18:20 < originalTHP> Cippo: it hangs on the apple logo 18:20 < eF|tool``> bah 18:20 < eF|tool``> noone answers my question :( 18:21 < Cippo> originalTHP, only on the linux, or on the apple firmware too? 18:21 < BleuLlama> joecool: I've never been to West Germany, but New York City people are annoying. 18:21 * BleuLlama shrugs 18:21 < BleuLlama> nice non-sequitor 18:21 < Cippo> bah, the linux --> linux 18:21 < joecool> BleuLlama: heh, you should visit NJ if you think THEY are annoying 18:21 < Appelmoes> courtc why did you look it up? 18:21 < originalTHP> Cippo: i guess it is a bootloader problem, so basically both 18:21 < BleuLlama> i don't think that. you missed my point. nevermind 18:21 < Cippo> originalTHP, ok.... 18:22 < eF|tool``> bah 18:22 < eF|tool``> lamers 18:22 -!- eF|tool`` [knifesnipe@spc1-reig2-4-0-cust149.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:22 < joecool> BleuLlama: perhaps the point missed you? 18:22 < courtc> Appelmoes, read the page... 18:22 < BleuLlama> just when i thought you couldn't be more of an idiot, you surprise me. 18:23 < joecool> BleuLlama: nah.. i'm just feeling like a philosophical asshole at the moment 18:23 < joecool> i swear.. every time i have white castle i go nuts 18:23 < BleuLlama> i swear.. every time i have white castle i get sick 18:23 < Appelmoes> courtc what about ? 18:23 < BleuLlama> last time i had WC was around '95 or so. 18:23 < BleuLlama> heh 18:23 < Cippo> wtf is white castle? 18:24 < courtc> Appelmoes, forget it. 18:24 < joecool> BleuLlama: it seems to be.. that every 2 or 3 months i get a craving to have it.. then i don't have it for a very long time 18:24 -!- _KDE is now known as GnomeSucks 18:24 < BleuLlama> cippo: horrible fast food chain in the states. tiny burgers (about 3" square, 1/8" thick, fried in onions and grease 18:24 < Cippo> ugh.... 18:24 < Cippo> sounds discusting 18:24 < joecool> mmm.. white castle 18:24 < BleuLlama> you don't eat one. you get like 4-6 of them usually 18:25 < BleuLlama> cippo: it really is, but they taste pretty goid 18:25 < BleuLlama> good 18:25 * Cippo eats some meatcake 18:25 < joecool> i had 10 today (ordered 20 though) 18:25 < BleuLlama> they're often called "Sliders" too 18:25 < Cippo> 20! 18:25 < joecool> and they come in little boxes 18:25 < BleuLlama> since they slide in, then they slide out just as easily. 18:25 < Cippo> it aint strange americans are fat!! 18:25 < BleuLlama> cippo: that's cause everything is loaded with Corn Syrup and hydrogenated oils 18:25 < BleuLlama> avoid that crap and exercise, and you stay fit. 18:26 < BleuLlama> er 18:26 < BleuLlama> don't avoid exercise. 18:26 < BleuLlama> heh 18:26 < Cippo> in norway we eat porridge and meatcakes :) 18:26 < BleuLlama> (avoid that crap) and exercise, and you stay fit. 18:26 < joecool> i think.... the best way to understand, is to pick up the movie Harold and Kumar Goto White Castle 18:26 < courtc> speaking of grease, I'm going to go eat. 18:26 < Cippo> maybe a pizza sometimes :) 18:26 -!- GnomeSucks is now known as _KDE 18:27 < BleuLlama> americans are lazy, and american food companies want things to be the cheapest they can be without regard for nutritional content or health ramifications. it makes for fat americans who die from liver problems 18:27 < joecool> its almost like that (its funny cause its all in NJ, and the white castles in it i've been too) 18:27 < BleuLlama> and i say this as an american 18:27 < Cippo> _KDE, your right, KDE is the only window manager worth using :) 18:27 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama nice :) 18:27 < joecool> on a side note though.. i'm also a farmer.. who has a garden thats about 5 acres 18:27 < BleuLlama> for example, tomatoes are bred for color and ruggedness... not for flavor in the states 18:27 -!- originalTHP [~thomas@L0009P19.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:27 < Appelmoes> Cippo on that part I don't agree with you 18:28 < BleuLlama> most food is pretty poor over here, unless you get organic/non-processed crap 18:28 < Cippo> Appelmoes, why not? 18:28 < Appelmoes> Gnome, fluxbox ok ... kde naaah 18:28 < Appelmoes> :p 18:28 < joecool> BleuLlama: NJ has best tomatoes.. thats about all we boast 18:28 < Cippo> kde got kparts 18:28 < BleuLlama> one of the reasons i loved london and paris' food. 18:28 < Cippo> really nice for programming 18:28 < Cippo> plus it just rulez :) 18:28 < BleuLlama> we just buy farmgrown and organic food where we can... it makes for much tastier meals. :D 18:28 < joecool> i have 4 or 5 varieties growing.. and yeah, hardiness is a good thing, but ramapo tomatoes seem to be the best all-around 18:29 < BleuLlama> not to mention that the wife loves to cook things with the best quality ingredients we can find. (she makes amazing mayonnaise) 18:29 < Cippo> hehe, gonna buy some fertilizer soon.... not for growing plants though.... 18:29 < BleuLlama> anyhoo 18:29 < BleuLlama> enough of this. 18:29 < joecool> Cippo: oh really.. 18:29 < BleuLlama> we're fat. we're lazy. we know this, but we don't admit to it. 18:29 < BleuLlama> watch "Supersize me" and "Good Eats". heh 18:29 < Cippo> joecool, ammonium nitrate :) 18:30 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama saw it 18:30 < Cippo> hoping to make use of it in my rockets 18:30 < joecool> hmm.. i need to have another large brushfire.. that was fun waking the neighbors up with a nice explosion of gasoline 18:31 < Cippo> hmm, need a reboot (again) 18:31 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit ["reboot"] 18:32 < courtc> gnome & KDE aren't windowmanagers 18:32 < joecool> courtc: that was random 18:32 < courtc> and I laugh at KDE users. 18:32 < courtc> <Cippo> _KDE, your right, KDE is the only window manager worth using :) 18:32 < joecool> courtc: i laugh at gnome users 18:32 < _KDE> i know 18:33 * BleuLlama uses either TWM, WMX or Amiwm (modified to look like AmigaDOS 1.3) 18:33 < joecool> kde apps are good (cept kopete.. what the hell are they doing with it) 18:33 < courtc> gnome you can be toned down at least. 18:33 < joecool> courtc: kde can too.. everything's been split-out now 18:33 < courtc> I refuse to install any kde apps 18:33 -!- _KDE is now known as GnomeSucksKDErul 18:34 < joecool> not to mention there was always DO_NOT_COMPILE flags where you could drop out anything 18:34 < Appelmoes> http://www.appelmoes.be/images/Screenshots/Screenshot.jpg 18:34 < Appelmoes> this is my gnome desktop 18:34 < Appelmoes> don't call it ugly :p 18:34 < BleuLlama> http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/Software/amiwm/0.21s0/1_3.gif 18:35 < joecool> i don't like kwin/kdesktop, and i HATE metacity/nautilus 18:35 < joecool> openbox is my WM of choice 18:35 < GnomeSucksKDErul> KDE: GUI better than winxp ; Gnome: worse than 3.11 (3.11 was cool,m i still use it) 18:35 -!- GnomeSucksKDErul is now known as _KDE 18:35 < _KDE> *win3.11 18:36 < joecool> i refuse to use gnome for one simple reason.. bad development 18:37 < Appelmoes> don't know but I made a lot people using Gnome instead of kde and fluxbox (that was the really strange part) 18:37 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:37 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["lunching"] 18:38 -!- _KDE [~KDE@ppp-82-135-14-249.mnet-online.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS""] 18:38 < joecool> i came from gnome.. after they raped it in the move from 2.4 to 2.6 i decided i wouldn't continue to use a DE that was run by people without any orginization 18:38 -!- Bieh_ [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 18:38 < BleuLlama> and yet you stick with linux 18:38 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 18:38 < joecool> BleuLlama: haha, touche 18:38 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 18:38 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:39 < Appelmoes> running 2.10 atm 18:39 < Appelmoes> works fine 18:39 < joecool> BleuLlama: but my plans are to goto FreeBSD soon, the linux kernel development is frustrating to say the least 18:39 < joecool> plus i wanna have a box on true unix 18:41 < joecool> kde is very centralized though, even the alphas/betas have not shown any major problems (unless a new component is added in an alpha *cough* kopete *cough*) 18:41 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:42 < joecool> currently in a bit of a fiasco because many of the users i know were assuring me gcc-4.1 was very stable and had almost no compile breakages 18:42 < courtc> haha http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ss/ss-20050608.png 18:42 < joecool> i'm about to step it back to 3.4.4 because they didn't know what they were talking about 18:43 < Cippo> ipodeth1394: eth1: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (ohci1394) 18:43 < Cippo> this looks good doesnt it? 18:44 < joecool> argh.. gotta install an AC unit 18:44 < joecool> bbl 18:44 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 18:45 < Appelmoes> courtc what distro are you using? 18:46 < courtc> archlinux 18:46 < courtc> but that has no effect on the apperance of my desktop ? 18:47 < Appelmoes> yes I know that :p 18:48 < Appelmoes> just curious 18:50 < courtc> I need to start using windowlab again.. openbox is pissing me off.. 18:52 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:55 < courtc> heh, I love how no-one comments on the podzilla in that ss. 18:56 < Appelmoes> well I wonder how you did it 18:56 -!- severinse [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodlinux 18:56 < courtc> how i did what? 18:56 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-092.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:57 < Appelmoes> nvm :) 18:57 -!- severinse [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:59 < thunder_3k1> can me tell me any one how to install skype 19:00 < courtc> completely off-topic 19:00 < Appelmoes> idd, but don't a problem with installing skype? 19:00 < Appelmoes> see* 19:01 < Appelmoes> just download and install it :) 19:02 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:03 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 19:03 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:03 < Appelmoes> ow courtc now I see it, :p the title is centered ? 19:04 < courtc> haha! 19:04 < Appelmoes> sorry it took that long :p 19:04 < courtc> take a good look at that screen shot 19:04 < fre_ber> Err... Hasn't the title always been centred? 19:04 < Appelmoes> nope 19:05 < Fenix-Dark> O.o 19:05 < Fenix-Dark> i think my ipod just spontaneously combusted 19:05 < Fenix-Dark> smells like it cought on fire, and its quite hot 19:05 < Fenix-Dark> ...and it wont do anything 19:06 < courtc> what've you been doing with it? 19:07 < Fenix-Dark> it was just "serviced" by bestbuy 19:07 -!- z3ro [~z3ro@60-234-138-172.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:07 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:07 < courtc> just now. 19:07 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> i plopped it into the computer to install ipod linux, the partitions were all screwed up, there was no disk*s3, so i unplugged it, restarted it, and it just died 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> /dev/disk*s3 ** 19:08 < Appelmoes> as in died, and nothing more? 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> now its going back to be "serviced" by bestbuy 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> yup its dead 19:08 < Fenix-Dark> i love waiting 4 weeks just to get the surprise that they replaced a dead ipod with another dead ipod 19:09 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:10 < BleuLlama> fenix: itunes or apple's installer didn't set it up properly for you? 19:10 < Fenix-Dark> they preformatted it as fat32 19:10 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 19:11 < BleuLlama> yeah. all ipods ship like that now. i thought that maybe it shipped blank, and the first time you plug it in, it sets up the partition table for you 19:11 < Fenix-Dark> didn't know that 19:11 < macpod> all iPods are fat32 formatted now? 19:11 < BleuLlama> er. strike the first part of that 19:11 < BleuLlama> i meant: 19:11 < BleuLlama> i thought that maybe it shipped blank, and the first time you plug it in, it sets up the partition table for you 19:12 < BleuLlama> (where "it" is the apple installer thingy) 19:12 < Fenix-Dark> nope 19:14 -!- radziaqsdftie [~radzia2@217.70-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 19:16 < Appelmoes> hehe, my friend ibooks 'finder' crashed when I connected my fat32 formated ipod last time 19:16 < BleuLlama> could be a bad firewire/usb sync cable. 19:16 < BleuLlama> i connect fat32 drives to my mac all the time 19:16 < macpod> ditto 19:17 < BleuLlama> CF cards, thumb drives, usb and firewire hard disks, etc. 19:17 < Appelmoes> same cable I use here all the time 19:17 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea10f.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17 < BleuLlama> maybe there was some lint in their dock connector. i had that problem once. not fun. 19:17 < macpod> hrm, on my 3g videos work the first time I play them, but then they jsut get stuck on the loading screen. Anybody else have this syndrome? 19:17 < Appelmoes> yes macpod sometimes 19:18 < Appelmoes> on my photo 19:18 < radziaqsdftie> where can i find the latest podzilla binairy, the links on the ipodlinux.org site give me a weard code... :s 19:18 < courtc> osx users defend their os to the death ;) 19:18 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:18 < Appelmoes> radziaqsdftie save as 19:18 < macpod> I'm talking about podzilla 19:18 < radziaqsdftie> help! 19:18 < radziaqsdftie> need new update, 19:19 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org 19:19 < courtc> chill 19:19 < macpod> it's on that website 19:19 < Appelmoes> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ 19:19 < radziaqsdftie> yes, bus 19:19 < courtc> school bus? 19:19 < radziaqsdftie> hèhè 19:19 < radziaqsdftie> nee 19:19 < radziaqsdftie> belgen? 19:19 < Appelmoes> radziaqsdftie pm 19:19 < Appelmoes> :p 19:19 < BleuLlama> i think he meant Sync Bus Controller on a Pac-Man arcade board. 19:20 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:20 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < BleuLlama> or perhaps not 19:20 < radziaqsdftie> not 19:20 < macpod> Bleu you're out of control 19:20 < BleuLlama> I AM. 19:20 < radziaqsdftie> sry 19:20 < BleuLlama> i have to be, to remain sane while coding in Java/Swing over there ---> 19:20 < macpod> java sucks 19:20 < BleuLlama> it has its uses 19:20 < radziaqsdftie> what do i do on that ipodlinux.org/builds/, i mean, which file? 19:21 < macpod> I suppose if you need suckage 19:21 < Appelmoes> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/2005-06-08-podzilla.gz 19:21 < courtc> whats over there ---> that needs coding in java/swing ? 19:21 < radziaqsdftie> thx 19:21 < BleuLlama> not my preferred programming language, but i have to write a desktop app that gives a gui to editing some xml documents, and to make it for linux/unix, osx, and windows... java/swing was the correct way to go 19:22 < BleuLlama> courtc: observation planning/observation request document editor for SOFIA 19:22 < courtc> or clean c ;) 19:22 -!- OLwork_ [~snak@193.11.14.57] has quit [] 19:22 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama same here 19:22 < courtc> btw, how was your flight? 19:22 < Appelmoes> I have to learn it, my project had to be made in java/swing 19:22 < BleuLlama> courtc: i can't cross build for three platforms. i code once, build once, wrap it in an installer(Install Anywhere) and it works for all platforms. i'm not wasting my time maintaining codebase for 3 platrforms. :( 19:23 < Petterminator> Anyone knows if a malformed ITunesDB could keep the apple firmware from booting into the gui? 19:23 < BleuLlama> courtc: didn't happen. There was a hydraulic problem with the plane that they couldn't fix in time. ~1 week more for repairs, sadly. 19:23 < courtc> :/ 19:23 < radziaqsdftie> when i put the file into my root of my ipod,do i need to change the name, i know i need to change the extension 19:23 < BleuLlama> thanks for asking though. :) 19:23 < BleuLlama> http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/work <= pics here in a few minutes though 19:24 < fre_ber> Bah, I guess that I'm not more lucky than the others who tried this... I get no sign of lifer from my iPod via ipodeth1394. :| 19:24 < courtc> fre_ber, in winders? 19:24 < fre_ber> Nah.. Linux 19:25 < fre_ber> 2.4.8 19:25 < fre_ber> 2.6.8, sorry 19:25 < courtc> I used to have to reboot my ipod several times before it worked 19:25 < fre_ber> Just the iPod? 19:26 < fre_ber> not the ipodeth1394 driver? 19:26 < courtc> yea, ifconfig eth? down; rmmod ipodeth1394; reboot ipod; start over. 19:26 < fre_ber> Oh 19:27 < courtc> I had a script: telnizzle 19:27 < fre_ber> lol 19:29 < fre_ber> And it worked 1:5? 19:30 < courtc> yea :/ 19:30 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 19:31 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:31 < fre_ber> Who is supposed to respond to ping? inetd? 19:31 < courtc> *shrugs* 19:32 < courtc> just make sure the rc doesn't block. 19:32 < fre_ber> I just realized that my podzilla returns an error on quit. THis might prevent inetd from starting? 19:33 < fre_ber> I will remove podzilla from rc. 19:33 < courtc> possibly.. you can put podzilla in the inittab instead of the rc 19:34 < fre_ber> Hmm... I'm not so sure about that. I am having trouble getting my serial port shell to start proberly. 19:35 < courtc> :/ 19:36 -!- thunder_3k1 [~thunder3k@p5498C545.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 19:41 < fre_ber> Nah, this doesn't work. Seven reboots are seven too many for me.. :| 19:41 < fre_ber> I will go back to my serial port, at least that works, even if it is slow. 19:41 < courtc> don't you use serial anyway? 19:42 < fre_ber> Yes, but I wanted to find a faster channel... 19:42 < fre_ber> It takes about four minutes to download the podzilla binary. :| 19:43 < courtc> ethernet isn't much faster :/ 19:43 < fre_ber> No? why? It should be able to use most of iee1394 capacity, shouldn't it? 19:44 < courtc> you would think so, but I remember it being slow and buggy. 19:44 < fre_ber> Ok, then I won't bother with this again. 19:46 < fre_ber> btw, what is the cleanest way to unmount the iPod from a linux machine? I jsut unmounted the drive, but it still tells me not to disconnect. 19:48 < Appelmoes> same here :) 19:48 < Appelmoes> unloading the module I guess 19:49 < fre_ber> err, what module? 19:49 < BleuLlama> http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/WASP050608 <- pics uploaded 19:49 < BleuLlama> :) 19:50 < courtc> using usb i unload usb-storage, but it still tells me not to disconnect. 19:50 < fre_ber> Ok. I guess unmounting the partitions should be safe enough. 19:51 < Appelmoes> ipod still works :) 19:54 -!- radziaqsdftie [~radzia2@217.70-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:04 < BleuLlama> is there a way to easily convert a handful of .ogg files to .mp3 or .m4a or some other audio format? can one of you linux people point me at a tool to help do this? 20:05 -!- Bi_noix [~Bi-noix@80.125.213.67] has quit ["brb"] 20:05 < haunted_i> yes 20:05 < haunted_i> I was looking for some earlier today, let me look thru Safari's history . . . 20:05 < BleuLlama> thanks 20:05 < haunted_i> okay, there's a good handful in http://www.pure-mac.com/audio.html 20:05 < haunted_i> And more if you click on the link for Music Section 20:06 < haunted_i> I've had more trouble finding freeware that'll save streaming radio, but that's a fight for another day 20:07 < BleuLlama> i use audiohijack for that 20:07 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama I used mplayer to convert wma to mp3 20:08 < Appelmoes> it should work for ogg 20:08 < BleuLlama> hmm. i forgot about sox 20:09 * BleuLlama downloads mplayerOSX 20:09 < BleuLlama> thanks! 20:10 < BleuLlama> i have VLC, but it only plays them. :/ 20:10 < Appelmoes> BleuLlama http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33040&goto=nextnewest 20:10 < Appelmoes> that is an example for wma 20:11 -!- JBerlin [~Email@ool-43546934.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 < BleuLlama> i don't need scripts. just which apps to use. that seems to use lame... 20:11 < BleuLlama> besides. grabbing mplayer 20:11 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@80.125.213.67] has joined #ipodlinux 20:12 < JBerlin> if i have a mini 1g, and i install linux on it, will a standard ipod firmware restrore replace the linux install? 20:12 < BleuLlama> yes. read the wiki 20:12 < JBerlin> ok 20:12 < JBerlin> sorry 20:12 < JBerlin> thank you 20:13 < macpod> bleu: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=62947 20:14 < macpod> check their gui mencoder 20:16 < haunted_i> VLC is so buggy, I swear 20:17 < BleuLlama> works fine here. 20:17 < BleuLlama> thanks macpod 20:31 < Izz^> That's funny, I was just going to complain that Quicktime 7 is so buggy. 20:32 < Izz^> I'm trying to watch the Apple keynote. ..so many problems. It's driving me nuts. 20:32 < mikeazorin> don't get me started on how buggy wmp is 20:32 < mikeazorin> i think vlc is pretty solid, though 20:33 < Izz^> It keeps losing the sound. How can it play without the sound?! How can it not KNOW it is playing the video without any sound? Why doesn't it stop after a few seconds of silent video and "think" 'hey, that is not a good user experience. ..I should stop playing this video silently and do something about it like BUFFER for a few seconds or something'. 20:33 < Izz^> Okay, maybe software doesn't think. But it SHOULD! 20:33 * Izz^ grrrs 20:33 < haunted_i> I've found streaming with QT is loads better than other apps 20:34 < BleuLlama> yeah. i've not had problems with VLC or Quicktime 7. I kept losing network while playing the keynote though. but that's not the app.. that's the network 20:34 < haunted_i> But everyone is in agreement WMP for Mac is the worst thing since IE Mac 20:34 < Izz^> Yeah, to be fair, I watched a bunch of QT trailers last night and they were pretty flawless. But the keynote still plays rather badly for me. I thought maybe it was due to high demant. 20:34 < Izz^> -t +d. 20:34 < BleuLlama> yeah. m$ should have made codecs for their stuff so it could be run within QT player 20:34 < haunted_i> Isn't there a non-streaming WWDC video out there? 20:34 < mikeazorin> i doubt it 20:35 < Izz^> Heh - so many videos that don't play in WMP for Mac. I boot up Virtual PC and play them on Windows XP and MP9 on that! 20:35 < BleuLlama> when windows media files don't work for me, i use vlc 20:35 -!- zsr- [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:35 < BleuLlama> it's gotten everything i've thrown at it 20:36 * courtc mplayer 20:36 < courtc> even on windows 20:36 < Appelmoes> idem 20:36 < Izz^> I'm surprised MS don't think "We should make WMP better on Mac so people think Windows Media is GOOD". What they seem to be deluding themselves with is "let's keep WMP on Mac a pile of crap, so they'll switch back to Windows". 20:37 < mikeazorin> people switch back to windows? 20:37 < mikeazorin> if anything, i thought they switch back to linux peecees 20:37 -!- Petterminator [p@56.180.32.ip.nordiq.net] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 20:37 < haunted_i> delicious new security update goodness 2005-006 20:37 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:38 < haunted_i> Bluetooth, PHP, and no restart required! 20:39 < BleuLlama> where the hell are you reading that? i see [<|] Restart will be required. 20:40 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:40 < Izz^> I see (<|) Restart will be required. 20:40 < Izz^> But then my Mac has better ASCII art than yours. 20:42 < courtc> I see {<|} No Restart will be required, but expect crashes. 20:43 < courtc> but I'm looking at a blank piece of paper. 20:44 < haunted_i> lol 20:44 < haunted_i> I'm running Panther. That might do it. 20:44 < haunted_i> Maybe only Tiger requires a restart. 20:45 < Fenix-Dark> :( 20:45 * Fenix-Dark wishes he had a working ipod 20:45 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 20:45 < Fenix-Dark> one can only dream 20:47 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@adsl-69-155-230-102.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has quit ["Apple users are like Marines; a small, elite group with the most sophisticated technology"] 20:58 < Fenix-Dark> whats left before teh 4G/photo/mini G1 are officially supported/ 20:58 < Fenix-Dark> ?* 20:59 < courtc> we have lots of those questions to answer. 20:59 < JBerlin> i just installed linux on my mini 1g and have 1 quick ?? 20:59 < courtc> I'm sorry 20:59 < JBerlin> tell it in 5 mins tho 20:59 < JBerlin> brb 21:09 < mikeazorin> oh my god!! 21:17 < JBerlin> sry about that 21:17 < JBerlin> i just installed linux 21:17 < JBerlin> when it reboots, it cycles between the apple logo and some file folder logo with a caution sign 21:17 < JBerlin> i tried holding down the reverse button 21:17 < JBerlin> nothing happened 21:17 < JBerlin> any suggestions/comments? 21:18 < courtc> yea, you screwed it up pretty good. 21:18 < JBerlin> what did i do rong? 21:18 < courtc> I dunno. 21:18 < JBerlin> has anyone here sucessfully installed and run linux on a 1g mini? 21:19 < courtc> heh, a few. 21:21 < JBerlin> do u have 2 do anything different as opposed to the normal install process??? 21:22 < courtc> use a cvs bootloader, nightly kerne and nightly podzilla 21:22 < courtc> partition correctly, etc, etc 21:23 < BleuLlama> follow the 4g installation instructions wiki page 21:24 < BleuLlama> this is "unsupported". so asking for help in here... well... you get the idea. 21:24 < JBerlin> i understand that 21:24 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 21:24 < JBerlin> just wanted somepointers 21:25 < courtc> -> wiki theres my pointer 21:25 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:26 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|et 21:26 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 21:45 -!- nilss [nils@nilss.prout.be] has quit [Network is unreachable] 21:48 -!- nilss [nils@nilss.prout.be] has joined #ipodlinux 22:14 -!- poolio [~poolio@pcp0011738677pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:17 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- Bieh_ [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit ["leaving"] 22:22 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 22:30 -!- mikeazorin [~michaelaz@cpe-66-108-147-146.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [] 22:31 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-2f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Yikes"] 22:32 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:42 -!- test [~test@68.116.137.14] has joined #ipodlinux 22:43 -!- test [~test@68.116.137.14] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:45 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-158-36-109.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:55 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-158-36-109.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 < joshk> damnit 23:02 < joshk> leachbj = where 23:03 < aegray> not here 23:03 < courtc> hiding from you 23:14 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:16 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 23:20 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:21 < Izz^> I installed from CVS as soon as iPL got video and the 4G speedup... .I was contemplating updating it just now but: is there anything new/interesting since then? 23:22 < courtc> nope 23:22 < aegray> tzx support! 23:23 < courtc> he said exciting ;) 23:23 < aegray> ah 23:23 < aegray> ok 23:23 < courtc> oh, wait... no he didn't 23:23 < aegray> new/interesting 23:23 * courtc can't read (apparently) 23:24 -!- jchillerup [~jchilleru@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 23:25 < Izz^> Heheh 23:25 < jchillerup> Hello.. Thanks for all this work. I want to install IPL on my 4G iPod, but the first partition is only 5 units long. The tutorial says that it's 33 or something 23:25 < Izz^> Hang on. ..tzx. Isn't that a Sinclair Spectrum tape archive? :| 23:25 < jchillerup> I don't know which unit, but I think you'll understand ;) 23:25 < Izz^> Units? :| 23:26 < jchillerup> Lemme paste a partition table print 23:26 < courtc> use 1-2 and 3-5 23:26 < courtc> please don't 23:26 < Izz^> Won't you get kicked for flooding? 23:26 < jchillerup> two lines 23:26 < jchillerup> /dev/sdb1 1 5 40131 0 Empty 23:26 < jchillerup> /dev/sdb2 * 6 2431 19486845 b W95 FAT32 23:26 < jchillerup> courtc, will there be space enough 23:27 < jchillerup> enough space* 23:27 < courtc> d 1 n p 1 1 2 n p 3 2 5 t 1 0 w 23:27 < jchillerup> wow! 23:27 < jchillerup> ;) 23:27 < jchillerup> but I guess I know what to do now ;) 23:28 < jchillerup> /dev/sdb1 1 2 16033+ 0 Empty 23:28 < jchillerup> /dev/sdb2 * 6 2431 19486845 b W95 FAT32 23:28 < jchillerup> /dev/sdb3 3 5 24097+ 83 Linux 23:28 < jchillerup> Can you verify that? 23:29 < courtc> yup. 23:29 < jchillerup> Cool 23:29 < jchillerup> w, then ;) 23:29 < jchillerup> omg - i'm crazy ;P 23:30 < jchillerup> ok, if I interrupt now, the ipod won't boot, will it 23:31 < courtc> interrupt? 23:31 < jchillerup> Not that I want to, but if anything goes wrong 23:31 < jchillerup> Yes, I've repartitioned the ipod 23:31 < courtc> yea, it won't boot untill you dd the new image over 23:32 < jchillerup> hmm 23:32 < jchillerup> Something WENT wrong 23:32 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-73-100.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:32 < jchillerup> It booted, though 23:33 < courtc> you can always put it into disk mode an give it another shot.. 23:33 < jchillerup> Yeah.. I'm on track again now 23:33 < jchillerup> It just lost connection to the PC.. The kernel ejected it and wouldn't "see" it 23:34 < jchillerup> Sorry 'bout my phrasing.. I'm a bit drunk ;) 23:34 < courtc> heh, just reboot it back into disk mode 23:34 < jchillerup> It works 23:34 < jchillerup> I'm mke2fs'in 23:35 < jchillerup> Heh.. When movie support is working fully, I'm SO buying a photo ;) 23:36 < jchillerup> Does it support full-color movies or only monocrome/grayscale 23:37 < courtc> 16bit 23:37 < jchillerup> ok 23:37 < jchillerup> I'm in trouble 23:37 < Izz^> Don't take this the wrong way, but if you want a music player / video player device, aren't you better off spending that money on a pocket video player? There's, like, hundreds to chose from and they all play music I bet 23:37 < jchillerup> I'm not ;) 23:37 < jchillerup> It's the size, Izz^ 23:38 < Izz^> There must be smaller video players though. Like. ..my phone plays videos and MP3s. 23:38 < Izz^> Okay, it doesn't have a 20GB HD. Maybe that's it :) 23:38 < jchillerup> tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda3 23:38 < jchillerup> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. 23:38 < jchillerup> Good point, izz ;) 23:39 < jchillerup> That's bad I guess :S 23:39 < Izz^> You want something that's barely bigger than a HD, with a screen that's hardly smaller than the HD. 23:39 < jchillerup> I'm not worried by the screen size 23:40 < jchillerup> The funny thing is that I'm still able to boot 23:40 < jchillerup> The iPod's still 'working' 23:43 < jchillerup> Is the tune2fs needed or is it just 'cosmetics' 23:43 < aegray> its so that when you mount it it doesn't try to check the filesystem 23:44 < jchillerup> I know, but will the iPod try to check it and hang (or osmething similar) 23:44 < nilss> will someone else in this channel be at reboot7 on friday? :) 23:45 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-203-092.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:45 < jchillerup> Is uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2.tar.gz what I need? 23:45 < courtc> can I get a free flight? 23:45 < courtc> jchillerup, use a nightly 23:46 < jchillerup> from where? CVS? 23:47 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ 23:49 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:50 < jchillerup> Thanks, courtc 23:51 < jchillerup> It won't let me unpack them. This may sound terribly stupid, but arent they .tgzs 23:52 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- carote_ [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- ryannnn [~tanglewoo@blk-215-127-0.eastlink.ca] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- birostick [stonetaker@18-73.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- Faulteh [~Faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- _Hetfield [will@s049.justedge.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- danalien [~danalien@danalien.user] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:52 -!- mage [~mage@S01060007950ade7b.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:55 -!- Hetfie182 [will@s049.justedge.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:55 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 23:56 < jchillerup> .. 23:56 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < jchillerup> Bad superblock :( 23:58 * courtc playing invaders and listening to bluegrass on his ipod IN IPODLINUX :) 23:58 < jchillerup> :( 23:59 < macpod> courtc what version of mencoder are you using? 23:59 < jchillerup> anybody wanna try and tell me what's wrong - perhaps with a readonly VNC? 23:59 < courtc> what? 23:59 < macpod> do you use mencoder to code video? 23:59 < courtc> MEncoder 1.0pre7-3.4.3 --- Log closed Thu Jun 09 00:00:00 2005