--- Log opened Mon Jun 06 00:00:02 2005 00:00 < aegray> be back 00:00 < joshk> i suppose ldr r2, [r2] == dereference r2 and stick the answer back into r2? 00:00 < aegray> yea 00:00 < joshk> if it's anything like sparc asm.. 00:00 < joshk> k 00:00 < Daishi> alright now if video is messed up in what colors go where cant i make a video with the colors messed up on purpose and thus counteract the messing up? 00:00 < aegray> yes 00:01 < aegray> rgb -> brg i think 00:01 < coob> hey there's a point 00:01 < Daishi> i was already encoding with brg16 00:01 < coob> you could try creating a brg video 00:01 < aegray> brg 00:01 < aegray> haha 00:01 < Daishi> oo 00:01 < aegray> you would have to write a converter 00:01 < Daishi> erm bgr 00:01 < coob> doesn't mencoder do it? 00:01 < aegray> i have some code to do that 00:01 < aegray> brg? 00:01 < aegray> bgr it has 00:01 < aegray> not brg 00:02 < aegray> dinner time 00:02 -!- iooi [~iooi@p548E7983.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #iPodLinux 00:02 < iooi> In the other news Apple announced a switch away from Objective-C towards C++: "Nobody besides us currently uses Objective-C. We have to make a standing in industry standards" an Apple executive explained. The spokesman continued to state that Apple will revive earlier abandoned Technologies like Pink, Taligent and OpenDoc by this move. C|Net news 00:03 < coob> haha 00:04 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:06 -!- Troy^ [pb@CPE0050bac211e1-CM014260047635.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:07 < davidc__> yea sure. 00:07 < MikeRS> hmm... the mp3 player doesn't seem to support all mp3s, particularly this mono and low-quality one (from the Internet! :P) 00:07 < MikeRS> Playing MPEG stream from every-sp.mp3 ... 00:07 < MikeRS> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 8 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono 00:08 < davidc__> yeah, I think we hard coded 44100 00:08 < MikeRS> oh.. 00:08 < MikeRS> well, luckily almost every mp3 on here is ripped at that :p 00:09 < davidc__> ?!?! 00:09 < davidc__> that would most likeley sound like ass 00:09 < davidc__> I can't even stand 22050 00:09 < Daishi> he meant 44100 00:09 < courtc> he meant 44100 00:09 < courtc> whoa 00:09 < Daishi> jinx 00:09 < Daishi> buy me a coke 00:10 < Daishi> ive never done that on irc before 00:10 < Daishi> that was amazing 00:10 < courtc> yea, a little weird 00:10 < joshk> ok 00:10 < courtc> get out of my head! 00:10 < joshk> i think i mighta done it :p 00:10 < joshk> outl(inl(0x70000010) & ~0xc, 0x70000010); 00:10 < joshk> == 00:10 < Daishi> ? 00:10 < coob> you both forgot your ' too, weirdos. 00:10 < joshk> mov r5, #0x70000010 00:10 < joshk> ldr r5, [r5] 00:10 < joshk> bic r5, r5, #0xc 00:10 < joshk> mov r6, #0x70000010 00:10 < joshk> str r6, [r5] 00:11 < Daishi> '? 00:11 < Daishi> where did i need a '? 00:11 < joshk> did i translate that C into assembly adequately? 00:11 < Daishi> i cant comprehend so you must have 00:12 < davidc__> that looks pretty good 00:12 < davidc__> er, except you got the last str backwards 00:12 < davidc__> should be str r5, [r6] 00:12 < joshk> the address to store in is in r5, though 00:12 -!- Pickles [~Pickles@24-119-126-13.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #iPodLinux 00:12 < joshk> and r6 is what i want to move into it 00:12 < davidc__> no, its in r6 00:12 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:12 -!- Pickles is now known as Pklgnome 00:12 < joshk> oh 00:13 < davidc__> umm, the instruction str instruction takes the first argument 00:13 < joshk> right, i read the define for outl wrong 00:13 < joshk> never mind, i get it :) 00:13 < davidc__> nm, you got it 00:13 < davidc__> heh. 00:13 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 00:13 < Pklgnome> so was the problem with recording fixed by the june 4 build> 00:13 < Pklgnome> *? 00:14 < davidc__> what is that outl thing supposed to do anyways? 00:14 < joshk> davidc__: access arbitrary locations in memory 00:14 < joshk> dereference and assign 00:15 < davidc__> nono, I know that 00:15 < joshk> oh 00:15 < davidc__> but what is that line overall supposed to do. 00:15 < davidc__> it clears two bits 00:15 < joshk> it's ipod_beep() in podzilla 00:15 < davidc__> I know that much 00:15 < davidc__> ah, so what exactly are you trying to do? 00:15 < davidc__> make it beep? 00:15 < joshk> yes, trying to figure out where my mini 2g hangs 00:15 < aegray> joshc - you cant mov an address like that 00:15 < joshk> either it looks like it doesn't get to loader() at all, or ipod_beep() is invalid for the mini 2g 00:16 < aegray> you have to ldr an address like that 00:16 < aegray> mov r5, #0x70000010 00:16 < aegray> should not work 00:16 < aegray> you have to have either 00:16 < aegray> mov r5, #0x70000000 00:16 < aegray> add r5, #0x10 00:16 < joshk> oh 00:16 < joshk> why's it like that? 00:16 < aegray> the way it loads addresses 00:17 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Client Quit] 00:18 < Pklgnome> can anyone answer my question? 00:18 < Pklgnome> plz :) 00:18 < aegray> i don't think so 00:18 < davidc__> oh right... yeah, its a 32 bit constant.. you can't do that 00:18 < aegray> they're still working on recording 00:18 < Pklgnome> it wasn't fixed? 00:18 < aegray> not yet i don't think 00:18 < aegray> i think it hangs 00:18 < davidc__> Pklgnome: was what fixed? 00:18 < Pklgnome> aargh 00:18 < aegray> the recording 00:18 < Pklgnome> the problem with recording 00:18 < aegray> on 4g 00:18 < Pklgnome> no 00:18 < Pklgnome> on 3g 00:18 < Pklgnome> the gain sucks 00:19 < aegray> oh i dunno 00:19 < Pklgnome> it's been fixed in a nightly 00:19 < Pklgnome> but i'm using the gui installer 00:19 < aegray> you can install a nightly with gui installer 00:19 < Pklgnome> how? 00:20 < aegray> copy linux.bin and podzilla to the installer dir (overwrite the originals) 00:20 < aegray> then install 00:20 < aegray> with updates unchecked 00:20 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds 00:20 < joshk> ok 00:20 < joshk> http://rafb.net/paste/results/cLph7W60.html 00:20 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 00:20 < joshk> aegray: take a look? 00:20 < aegray> sure 00:21 < Pklgnome> do i have to compile linux.bin and podzilla? 00:21 < aegray> just download them from that url 00:21 < joshk> oops 00:21 < joshk> or is orr 00:21 < aegray> orr 00:21 < aegray> i know 00:21 < aegray> but... 00:22 < aegray> if you want to load an address like 6000600c 00:22 < aegray> its 00:22 < aegray> mov r4, #0x60000000 00:22 < aegray> add r4, #0x6000 00:22 < aegray> add r4, #0x0c 00:22 < aegray> or easier 00:22 < aegray> (hold on lemme find it) 00:22 < davidc__> or just use a constant pool 00:22 < davidc__> and load from the offset 00:22 < aegray> thats what i was showin 00:22 < joshk> with .equ? 00:23 < Pklgnome> what installer directory? 00:23 < aegray> which ones do you have? 00:23 < Pklgnome> i don't 00:23 < Pklgnome> do i need to have a directory for iPodLinux alone> 00:23 < aegray> theres no directory 00:23 < aegray> ugh - wheres your installer 00:23 < joshk> aegray: does bic r5, r5, #0xc have the same problem that you addressed? 00:23 < joshk> don't think so 00:24 < joshk> right? 00:24 < aegray> i don't think so 00:24 < aegray> never used it 00:24 < aegray> so i dunno 00:24 < joshk> well, thel ines above involve 00:24 < Pklgnome> i've got it in /Users//Applications 00:24 < joshk> ldr r0, [r0] 00:24 < joshk> and r0, r0, #0xff 00:24 < joshk> cmp r0, #0x55 00:24 < joshk> so i assume it's meant to work 00:24 < joshk> (that's iPL code) 00:24 < Pklgnome> it's an application 00:24 < Pklgnome> that's all there is 00:25 < aegray> pkl: do you see a linux.bin in there 00:25 < aegray> ? 00:25 < Pklgnome> no 00:25 < aegray> what does the lines above involv mean? 00:25 < aegray> find linux.bin 00:26 < aegray> joshk: what did you mean by the lines above involve? 00:26 < Pklgnome> doesn't exist, aegray 00:26 < joshk> aegray: this is startup.s in tools/ipodloader 00:26 < joshk> so i was looking at the existing code 00:26 < aegray> its not on your compter anywhere 00:26 < joshk> which used and in the same way i was 00:26 < aegray> then you don't actually have the installer 00:26 < joshk> so i assume it works 00:27 < Pklgnome> nope 00:27 < aegray> it should be in there somewhere 00:27 < Pklgnome> i'm on a macintosh 00:27 < aegray> hmm - dunno then - go on the video player page and see instructions there 00:27 < Pklgnome> don't know if that makes a big difference 00:27 < aegray> ah 00:27 < aegray> ok 00:27 < aegray> well try compiling it 00:27 < aegray> see if it compiles at least 00:28 < Pklgnome> aargh 00:28 < aegray> goto the video player page 00:28 < aegray> ->read 00:28 < Pklgnome> video player page> 00:28 < Pklgnome> ? 00:28 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 00:28 < aegray> it has instructions for how to use a new podzilla and linux.bin with the gui 00:28 < joshk> .equ PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE, 0x70000010 00:28 < joshk> mov r4, #PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE 00:28 < joshk> ^ ok? 00:28 < Daishi> hrm 00:29 < aegray> ldr r4, =PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE 00:29 < Daishi> why is compiling a million and one things so easy and downgrading firmware so hard 00:29 < Pklgnome> oh 00:29 < Pklgnome> duh 00:29 < Daishi> and my ipod claims its 1.0 00:29 < Pklgnome> i have to show the package contents 00:29 < joshk> aegray: got it 00:29 < aegray> Daishi 00:30 -!- iooi [~iooi@p548E7983.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 00:30 < joshk> oh shit, gotta remember how to write a for loop in asm :p 00:30 < Daishi> ? 00:30 < Daishi> aegray 00:30 < aegray> sorry 00:30 < aegray> i privated you 00:30 < aegray> but my idea was shot 00:30 < aegray> i thought i had something that would work 00:30 < aegray> but it won't 00:31 < aegray> loop not too hard 00:31 < joshk> yeah 00:31 < joshk> nearly done 00:34 < joshk> do i need a nop after a branch statement like on sparc/ 00:34 < aegray> not sure 00:34 < aegray> can't hurt 00:34 < joshk> looks like no, given the existing code 00:35 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 00:35 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 00:36 < joshk> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HNhsYh86.html 00:36 < joshk> ok 00:37 < joshk> shit 00:37 < joshk> missing a # on 0x1 00:37 < aegray> hold on 00:41 -!- MilesD [~L0GiK@ool-45778ff2.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:41 -!- MilesD [~L0GiK@ool-45778ff2.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:42 < aegray> looks pretty good 00:43 < joshk> hrm 00:43 < aegray> whats wrong 00:43 < joshk> you know, i probably could have just ran gcc -S on that code :p 00:43 < aegray> ahahaha 00:43 < aegray> its a learning experience 00:43 < joshk> yes 00:44 -!- MilesD [~L0GiK@ool-45778ff2.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:47 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit ["Changing server"] 00:47 < joshk> ah, basicaly looks the same :) 00:47 < aegray> good work then 00:47 < joshk> minus the constants 00:47 < joshk> makes it a little harder to read 00:48 -!- Bieh [~paul@60-234-139-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 00:49 < joshk> cmp r5, #0x888 00:49 < joshk> says that #0x888 is an invalid constant 00:49 < aegray> ah 00:49 < aegray> mov r3, #0x800 00:49 < joshk> should i store that and load it like the other ones? 00:49 < aegray> yep 00:49 < aegray> add r3, 00:50 < aegray> blabla 00:50 < aegray> (isn't arm fun?) 00:51 < joshk> now i gotta change all the registers so i'm not stepping over iPL 00:51 < aegray> no you don't 00:51 < aegray> stmdb sp!, {r0-r8} 00:51 < aegray> ldmia sp!, {r0-r8} 00:51 < aegray> before and after your function 00:51 < joshk> beginning and end? 00:51 < aegray> yea 00:51 < joshk> k 00:52 < joshk> it compiled 00:52 < joshk> let's see if my ipod spontaneously combusts 00:53 < joshk> aegray: i see a lot of 'beq 1f' and 'beq 1b' 00:53 < joshk> and there are many labels named 1 00:53 < aegray> yea 00:53 < aegray> 1 forward 00:53 < aegray> 1 backward 00:53 < joshk> so beq 1f moves to the next label named 1? 00:53 < joshk> or just the next label 00:53 < aegray> yep 00:53 < aegray> next named 1 i think 00:54 < joshk> cause there's one before my code and it might jump into the loop and i don't want that 00:54 < joshk> k cool 00:54 < aegray> it might though - i'm not sure 00:54 < joshk> meh 00:59 < joshk> WHOA 00:59 < joshk> i think it worked 00:59 * joshk reboots 00:59 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:59 < joshk> that's ridiculously cool 00:59 < joshk> first time i've ever done something like that 00:59 < aegray> nice 00:59 < aegray> it beeped? 00:59 < joshk> it just went 'click' 01:00 < joshk> is it supposed to actually beep? 01:00 < coob> rsbeq = coolest instruction name ever 01:00 < coob> :) 01:01 < davidc__> nah, it just clicks 01:01 < davidc__> the beep monicker is a relic from previous days. 01:01 < joshk> ok, cool 01:01 < joshk> then i did it! 01:01 < coob> joshk: nice work! 01:01 < joshk> davidc__: not a very long click, either? 01:01 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:01 < davidc__> nope 01:01 < coob> joshk: its supposed to be like the click you get in the apple firmware... 01:01 < joshk> right, right 01:01 < joshk> wow. that's neat. 01:01 < joshk> time to move that hunk of code around 01:02 < aegray> can you have optional arguments in c? 01:02 < Pklgnome> yes 01:02 < aegray> how 01:02 < Pklgnome> but i forget how 01:02 < aegray> haha 01:02 < Pklgnome> :) 01:02 < coob> ... 01:03 < coob> http://wwwwbs.cs.tu-berlin.de/user-taipan/kraxel/gnuinfo/libc/Receiving_Arguments.html 01:03 < joshk> ok 01:03 < joshk> it doesn't get to init_bss 01:03 < aegray> find out where it fails 01:05 < coob> aegray: i think it's used in podzilla 01:05 < coob> for pz_error in message.c 01:06 < aegray> arg - don't want to deal with that hassle 01:06 < joshk> getting closer.. 01:06 < aegray> just wanted the arg like function (int c = 1) 01:06 < aegray> so if its left out its set to 1 01:06 < coob> so then always call it with 1? 01:07 < aegray> yep 01:07 < Pklgnome> ok 01:07 < Pklgnome> so i'm replacing the podzilla in the gui installer with the nightly i just downloaded 01:08 < Pklgnome> does it need to be a .tar.gz , like the original? i would assume it does, but just in case... 01:08 < aegray> i guess 01:08 < aegray> i don't use mac 01:09 < coob> its just a .gz i think, no tar about it 01:09 < Wengero> oh crap 01:09 < Pklgnome> the file name is podzilla.tar.gz 01:09 < Pklgnome> i opened up the package 01:09 < Pklgnome> just downloaded, didn't change it 01:09 < coob> ah ok. 01:09 < Wengero> how do i quit podzilla 01:10 < Pklgnome> like, reboot into the apple firmware? 01:10 < Pklgnome> go to reboot ipod 01:10 < Wengero> dammit 01:10 < joshk> ok 01:10 < joshk> it looks like it gets lost here: 01:10 < Pklgnome> and then either hold down the reverse key (if linux is default) or do nothing (if it isn't) 01:10 < joshk> ldr pc, =start_loc /* jump to the next instruction in 0x4000xxxx */ 01:10 < aegray> so it relocated the code 01:11 < Wengero> well 01:11 < aegray> but can't find the start address in iram 01:11 < joshk> wait let me double check 01:11 < Wengero> i fucked something up 01:11 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:11 < Wengero> i guess the only way to turn it off now is kill the battery 01:11 < aegray> menu + select 01:11 < Wengero> doesnt work 01:11 < joshk> start_loc: 01:11 < joshk> ldr r1, =__data_start__ 01:11 < joshk> ldr r3, =__bss_start__ 01:11 < joshk> cmp r0, r1 01:11 < joshk> beq init_bss 01:11 < coob> hey 01:12 < coob> iram may be at a different location 01:12 < joshk> it would be okay if i put the beep code in before the first ldr, right? 01:12 < Pklgnome> try hard reboot 01:12 < Pklgnome> hold menu and play buttons 01:12 < coob> or maybe not, i dunno... 01:12 < aegray> is it getting to init_bss? 01:12 < aegray> thats what i was thinking 01:12 < aegray> wait 01:12 < coob> the 5022 has more iram than the pp5020 01:12 < aegray> is that the last location it gets to? 01:12 < aegray> or does it reach start_loc? 01:13 < joshk> i don't know, if i put the beep code before ldr r1, =__data_start__, it breaks 01:13 < joshk> so i sasume it doesn't get there 01:13 < aegray> ok 01:13 < aegray> so iram is the problem 01:14 < Wengero> pkignome: which play buttons? 01:14 < joshk> aegray: next step? 01:14 < Pklgnome> the inner one on the right 01:14 < Pklgnome> it has a triangle and to parallel vertical bars 01:14 < aegray> hmm 01:14 < aegray> it would be nice to have a dump of the bootloader 01:15 < aegray> menu + select is hard reboot 01:15 < aegray> oh wait 3g 01:15 < aegray> nevermind 01:15 < Wengero> i did menu sleect 01:15 < Wengero> i have 4g i use this guys guide 01:15 < Wengero> http://www.club60.dk/exdev/?p=20 01:15 < aegray> menu + select - hold down 01:15 < aegray> it works 01:15 < Pklgnome> ah 01:15 < Pklgnome> ok 01:16 < Wengero> any ideas? 01:16 < aegray> keep trying that 01:16 < aegray> is hold button on? 01:17 < Wengero> no 01:17 < Wengero> i hit the quit option and my ipod frozish 01:17 < aegray> and holding those down is doing nothing 01:17 < joshk> coob: next step? :P 01:18 < Wengero> my screen is all dark and filling with weird characters(i can only see them if i hold it up to a light) 01:18 < joshk> coob: i have the original apple firmware at hand, if it helps 01:18 -!- MrC [~MrC@cpe-66-108-4-24.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 01:18 < coob> the useful bit will be encrypted 01:19 < Pklgnome> that's it booting into linux, Wengero 01:19 < coob> could try bruteforcing the location of iram maybe? 01:19 < coob> trying obious locations 01:19 < coob> 0x5000... 01:19 < aegray> bern has the bootloader code 01:19 < coob> 0x600.... etc 01:19 < aegray> so i would think he would have seen that 01:19 < Wengero> i cant boot anything 01:19 < Wengero> im stuck 01:19 < aegray> is the only thing 01:19 < coob> ah he does? he'd have spoted the iram moving surely :/ 01:19 < aegray> its stuck with those characters 01:19 < aegray> ? 01:19 < Wengero> yes 01:20 < Wengero> im pretty sure they keep coming thou 01:20 < joshk> aegray: he has the bootloader code for 2g mini? 01:20 < aegray> if menu+action holding down for long time doesn't work to reset then i dunno 01:20 < joshk> hrm 01:20 < aegray> yes 01:20 < aegray> i think 01:20 < coob> joshk: its nice to finally find someone who knows what they're doing,... previous mini 2g testers have had... issues heh 01:20 < joshk> coob: i aim to please 01:20 < aegray> can you send me a dump of your firmware partition? 01:20 < joshk> yes 01:20 < aegray> (joshk) 01:20 < joshk> bzip2 ok? 01:20 < Wengero> yup the weird character keeps coming 01:21 < aegray> ugh 01:21 < joshk> wait 01:21 < Wengero> its not frozen 01:21 < aegray> i dunno 01:21 < Wengero> its just stuck 01:21 < joshk> apple firmware or the output from make_fw? 01:21 < aegray> is that tar xjf 01:21 < aegray> apple firmware 01:21 < joshk> it's bunzip2, since its just one file 01:21 < aegray> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=stuff 01:21 < Wengero> sould i just leave it on for like 2 days so the battery dies and see what happens? 01:21 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 01:21 < aegray> ah 01:21 < aegray> ok 01:21 < aegray> whatever 01:21 < joecool> Wengero: no userspace.. sounds like the problem 01:21 < joshk> bzip2 compresses better, and it's pretty big 01:21 -!- Wammy_ [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit ["I'm bored now."] 01:21 < joshk> so... yeah. my dsl blows too :) 01:22 < aegray> if menu+select doesn't work then your hold switch sounds to be stuck 01:22 < aegray> ok 01:22 < aegray> i can use that 01:22 < joshk> bah it doesn't compress at all 01:22 < aegray> haha 01:22 * Wengero cries 01:22 < aegray> brb - urine 01:22 < joshk> TMI 01:22 * Wengero wants his ipod back 01:22 < coob> ew. 01:22 < joecool> joshk: what are you attempting to compress? 01:23 < joshk> joecool: my apple firmware partition 01:23 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 < aegray> back 01:23 < joecool> joshk: hmm.. i don't remember if that compressed well (i know a full image of the drive did.. to an extant) 01:24 < joshk> joecool: it compressed about 10MB worth 01:24 < aegray> how big is it? 01:24 < joshk> 40M uncompressed 01:24 -!- groove10 [~music@adsl-158-220-134.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:24 < joecool> should have been like 40megs arou 01:24 < joecool> n 01:24 < joecool> d 01:24 < joecool> ugh 01:24 < joshk> heh 01:24 < coob> sounds about right... 01:25 < coob> as most of it will be random 01:25 < aegray> IDA loves it though 01:25 < coob> as apple only use the first 10 meg or so of the parition 01:25 < groove10> hey I have a question for you guys, not directly related to the iPod, but in the same realm 01:25 < aegray> k 01:25 < groove10> I'd like to set up a "media center" type box in my house 01:26 < groove10> basically a jukebox with web interface 01:26 < groove10> the music would reside on the local drives as well as across Samba shares 01:27 < aegray> wow first time dcc recv ever worked for me 01:27 < groove10> are there some pieces of software that can do this for me, and if so what do you recommend 01:27 < courtc> join #mpd 01:28 < coob> groove10: http://musicpd.org/ 01:28 < groove10> I was thinking setting up a web controlled streaming app and them use some media player to simply play the stream locally 01:29 < MikeRS> well, iPod_firmware does well in both gzip and bzip2 <_< 01:29 < MikeRS> 6.2M 2005-04-24 15:41 iPod_firmware.gz 01:29 < MikeRS> 5.8M 2005-04-24 15:41 iPod_firmware.bz2 01:29 < joshk> really? 01:29 < joshk> it was worthless fo rme 01:29 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 01:29 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:29 < joshk> how big was it originallyu? 01:29 < MikeRS> 40MB 01:29 < joshk> weird 01:29 < MikeRS> It's from a 4G 20GB iPod 01:30 < groove10> coob: thx 01:30 < joshk> the mini firmware must be some crazy ass shit then 01:30 < groove10> that's pretty much exactly what I was looking for... plus there's already some web front-ends written for it 01:30 < davidc__> yeah, I use it /w a webbased frontent 01:30 < davidc__> phpmp2 is horribly broken 01:30 < davidc__> but phpmp is great 01:32 < joshk> aegray: why'd you cancel? 01:32 < aegray> i didn't 01:32 < aegray> it aborted on its own 01:32 < aegray> damn thing 01:32 < joshk> are you using mIRC or something :P 01:32 < aegray> xchat 01:32 < joshk> heh 01:32 < aegray> shit internet though 01:32 < joshk> got an ftp server or something? 01:32 < joshk> hrm 01:32 < aegray> hold on 01:33 < joecool> anything sent to me.. i'll host 01:33 < coob> ditto... 01:34 < aegray> and theres our answer 01:35 < joshk> joecool: it's not 100% legal, though .. heh 01:35 < joshk> and there are some in here that feel doing such a thing is a bit sketch :p 01:35 < joecool> i really don't care.. i already have the photo firmware up 01:35 < joshk> ok 01:35 < joshk> how shall i send it to you 01:35 < joecool> dcc it, and i'll scp it up 01:36 < joshk> k 01:36 < MikeRS> and there has to be a way to extract the firmware from Apple's update programs >_> 01:36 < davidc__> there is 01:36 < MikeRS> I wouldn't know how though 01:36 < davidc__> but its slightly different then the one we want 01:36 < MikeRS> ph 01:36 < MikeRS> oh* 01:36 < joecool> joshk: if its urgent and you don't feel like waiting a half hour.. i have other.. faster means 01:36 < davidc__> it contains settings to reflash the ipo 01:37 < joshk> joecool: i'm maxing out my dsl upstream here 01:37 < davidc__> joecool joshk -no warez talk in the channel 01:37 < joshk> how could it go faster? 01:37 < davidc__> take it somewhere else 01:37 < joshk> k 01:37 < aegray> this isn't warez is it? 01:37 < aegray> i'm trying to get a dump of his firmware to look at in ida 01:37 < coob> yes. 01:38 < davidc__> well, by warez I mean the trade in apple firmware image. 01:38 < aegray> ok nm then 01:38 < davidc__> just don't do it in the channel 01:38 < aegray> k 01:38 < joshk> aegray: i dunno, are you gonna be around for the next half hour? :) 01:38 < aegray> yes 01:39 < joshk> ok then 01:39 < joecool> joshk: well.. my dsl upstream from here to my server is not good to say the least :P, would be better to get on a high-speed shell, and send it to the server 01:39 < joecool> but this will do :P 01:41 < Wengero> hey 01:45 < Pklgnome> aargh 01:45 < Pklgnome> i can't compress the podzilla file as a .tar.gx 01:45 < Pklgnome> *.tar.gz 01:45 < joecool> umm why would you? 01:45 < joecool> 1 file.. just compress it, no need to tar 01:45 < joecool> gzip filename 01:45 < joecool> or bzip2 filename 01:45 < Pklgnome> because it has to be in that format for it to work in the ipodlinux gui installer 01:46 < joecool> ok then 01:46 < joecool> use 01:46 < joecool> tar -cvzf podzilla.tar.gz * 01:46 < joecool> or rather 01:46 < joecool> tar -cvzf podzilla.tar.gz podzilla 01:49 < Pklgnome> ha ha 01:49 < Pklgnome> thanks 01:51 < joecool> np 01:54 < Pklgnome> ok 01:54 < Pklgnome> i just installed the june 5 nightly 01:54 < Pklgnome> the gain on the recording still sucks 01:56 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|food 01:56 < Pklgnome> i thought that was fixed in a nightly 01:56 < Pklgnome> a while ago 01:56 -!- rage [~rage@ppp111-51.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:58 -!- Troy^ [pb@CPE0050bac211e1-CM014260047635.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 < Wengero> hey ummm 01:59 < Wengero> any more ideas for me or am i screwed? 01:59 < Pklgnome> about what? 02:00 < aegray> take it to best buy 02:00 < Wengero> i bought it off apple website 02:00 < Pklgnome> what is the problem, again? 02:00 < davidc__> which ipod is it? 02:01 < Wengero> photo 02:01 < Wengero> i used this guide http://www.club60.dk/exdev/?p=20... everything looked good 02:01 < davidc__> you've tried pressing play+ center button righjt? 02:01 < davidc__> and holding them for ~ 10 seconds? 02:01 -!- Vanquisher|Away is now known as Vanquisher 02:01 < davidc__> with the hold switch off? 02:01 < Wengero> linux was running but then i when to reboot and nothing happend, then i went to quit and my screen filled with a weird character 02:02 < Wengero> hold switch is off and i held those buttons 02:02 < Wengero> omg 02:02 < Wengero> something happening now 02:02 < davidc__> apple logo? 02:02 < Wengero> ytes 02:02 < Wengero> im back in podzilla 02:02 < davidc__> ok 02:02 < davidc__> there ya go 02:02 < davidc__> its working now 02:02 < Wengero> that was really weird i dont know what fixed it 02:02 < davidc__> holding the buttons for long enough :P 02:03 < Wengero> i did that already 02:03 < davidc__> well, it worked this time didn't it :P 02:03 < davidc__> Its in hardware, so its pretty damn hard to break. 02:04 < davidc__> anyways just hold rewind after rebooting to get into apple firmware 02:04 < Wengero> okay just so i dont fuck it up again... whats the best way to go back to apple 02:04 < Pklgnome> so was the recording bug fixed in a nightly, or not? 02:05 < courtc> There's no tracker for a recording bug. 02:06 < davidc__> Wengero: permanently 02:06 < Wengero> no 02:06 < davidc__> or just to switch between? 02:06 < Wengero> ya 02:06 < davidc__> just hold << while it reboots. 02:06 < davidc__> just go reboot and then hold << when you see the apple logo until it boots into the apple os 02:07 < joshk> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Listusers <-- haha, full of spammers, for sure 02:07 < joshk> oh 02:07 < joshk> only the first few, i guess 02:07 < davidc__> fuck. 02:07 < davidc__> there are tons 02:07 < coob> we got hit by a botnet of wiki spamemrs 02:07 < Wengero> dammit 02:07 < Wengero> i did it again 02:08 < davidc__> wengero - did what? 02:08 < Wengero> i used quit podzilla 02:08 < davidc__> that should just go right back into podzilla 02:08 < Pklgnome> that doesn't boot into the apple firmware 02:08 < davidc__> if its crashed 02:08 < Pklgnome> that just reboots the podzilla itself 02:08 < davidc__> just hold center button + play 02:09 < Wengero> whats the easiest way to go into apple firmware... restarting without touching anything? 02:09 < Pklgnome> reboot ipod 02:09 < Wengero> k 02:09 < Pklgnome> wait 02:10 < Pklgnome> is your default os linux? 02:10 < davidc__> depends how you set it up 02:10 < Wengero> i still dont understand why using quit podzilla screws it up so much 02:10 < davidc__> Wengero: it shouldnt 02:10 < davidc__> I've never heard of it screwing up like that 02:10 < davidc__> but still, 02:10 < Pklgnome> quit podzilla quits the podzilla and boots into it again 02:10 < Pklgnome> it doesn't do anything else 02:10 < davidc__> if the default os is set as linux, then you need to hold << 02:10 < davidc__> however, if the default os is appleos, then just boot without holding anything 02:12 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:14 < davidc__> Wengero: it all workin now? 02:14 < Wengero> yup 02:14 < davidc__> good 02:14 < davidc__> try updating to the latest nightlys 02:14 < davidc__> that might fix the crash on quit 02:17 < Troy^> can linux allow u to play movies on ur ipod photo 02:17 < aegray> without sound 02:18 < aegray> right now 02:18 < Troy^> that sucks 02:18 < aegray> thanks 02:18 < coob> yous uck 02:18 < coob> fuck off. 02:18 < Troy^> ?? 02:18 < aegray> ass 02:18 < Wengero> the love is in the air 02:18 < Troy^> wtf are u flamin me for alls i said is that sucks because it wont play the sound 02:19 < Troy^> wow 02:19 < Troy^> lol 02:19 < Troy^> stuck up idiot 02:19 < Vanquisher> Troy^, dont complain 02:19 < joshk> o/~ do you believe in magic o/~ 02:19 < Troy^> i wasnt 02:19 < coob> that it plays video in the first place is great, I'd like to see you try better. have some fucking respect. 02:19 < Vanquisher> Troy^, if u dont like it fucking do something about it, until then stfu 02:19 < aegray> stuck up idiot - write something yourself dick 02:19 < aegray> wait coob said it better 02:19 < aegray> i'll let him talk 02:19 < Pklgnome> hey 02:19 < Troy^> lol 02:19 < Troy^> hah 02:19 < Troy^> i didnt mean anythiung by it 02:20 < Pklgnome> he wasn't saying that the video wasn't an awesome accomplishment 02:20 < Troy^> but all means if it gives u soemthing to do 02:20 < Pklgnome> hey was saying that it would be better if it had sound 02:20 -!- MrC [~MrC@cpe-66-108-4-24.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:20 < Wengero> video is the main reason why i came to podzilla:P 02:20 < Pklgnome> i'm sure he recognizes that it takes a lot of time to do all that stuff 02:20 < Wengero> i saw it and i was like i must have that 02:20 < Pklgnome> so he's just looking forward to it 02:20 < Troy^> yes i also recognize this but i didnt not mean my sentence to be an offense to podzilla 02:21 < coob> well it was taken as that, and thats what matters. 02:22 < Troy^> ok well im telling u now 02:22 < Pklgnome> just apologize, and shut up 02:23 < Pklgnome> or apologize and continue with normal conversation 02:23 < davidc__> everyone take a chill pill 02:23 < davidc__> or I'll enforce chill pills with /kick 02:23 < aegray> i just took 5 02:23 < joshk> :O 02:23 < joshk> aegray is unstable 02:23 < Pklgnome> so coob, was the recording bug fixed in the latest nightly? 02:24 < coob> what bug 02:25 < aegray> no bug is know of 02:25 < courtc> There's no tracker for a recording bug. 02:25 < Pklgnome> so the gain not being very good isn't a bug? 02:25 < aegray> davidc__: is there always a 0x10000000 start off for the ram section in ida? 02:26 < courtc> NO F'ING TRACKER.. 02:26 < davidc__> aegray - its wherever you put it. 02:27 < davidc__> pklgnome - file a report in the bug tracker 02:27 < Pklgnome> ok 02:27 < aegray> ok 02:29 < Pklgnome> first: 02:29 < Pklgnome> what is the expected range for the earbud microphone? 02:29 < MikeRS> probably super-close... I don't know because my cat tore them up so I can't test :p 02:30 < Pklgnome> i heard a recording from supposedly 2 feet away 02:31 < Pklgnome> sounded great 02:31 < courtc> the fact that the earbud doesn't make a very good microphone is because its not a mic! Thats no bug, you need good gain? Get a real mic or an amp. 02:31 < Troy^> anybody here connect there ipod through a firewire port through there soundcard 02:31 < Pklgnome> no 02:31 < Pklgnome> i heard a recording from 2 feet away 02:31 < Pklgnome> using the earbud 02:31 < Pklgnome> at 44.1 khz 02:31 < courtc> so... 02:31 < Pklgnome> sounded great 02:32 < Pklgnome> when i do it from 3 inches 02:32 < courtc> maybe your earbuds make shitty a mic.. 02:32 < Pklgnome> it picks it up, but it's quiet 02:32 < Pklgnome> and there is a lot of noise 02:32 < davidc__> yeah. its the shitty earbuds. 02:32 < Pklgnome> i'm telling you: the recording used the apple earbuds also 02:32 < davidc__> you're sure 02:32 < courtc> You really can't complain. Its a headphone for goodness sake. 02:32 < Pklgnome> and just a week ago 02:33 < Pklgnome> coob told me 02:33 < davidc__> try with a real microphone then we'll talk 02:33 < Pklgnome> that it was not the earbud 02:33 < Pklgnome> but that it had been fixed in a nightly 02:33 < BleuLlama> you could run to radio shack and buy a $5 microphone. 02:33 < Pklgnome> i know 02:33 < BleuLlama> or wait until we have belkin/griffin mic support 02:33 < MikeRS> I tried using my computer speaker as a microphone 02:33 < MikeRS> I had to really shout in it just for it to have a quite recording 02:33 < Pklgnome> but if it will work with an earbud, there's no reason to 02:35 < MikeRS> Hopefully... we can use regular microphones with iPL, right? >_> 02:35 < courtc> yea, but we aren't going to act on a bug that might just be because you are using earbuds. 02:35 < coob> wtf 02:35 < coob> you're using earbuds and you're complaining about gain? 02:36 < coob> get a grip 02:36 < Pklgnome> would you stop being so aggressively offensive? 02:36 < Pklgnome> coob: you told me that it was not the earbuds 02:36 < coob> then i was wrong 02:36 < Pklgnome> when i asked you about a week ago, maybe 2 02:36 < Pklgnome> ok 02:36 < Pklgnome> thank you 02:36 < coob> unless you said you tried a mic also 02:37 < courtc> wait, you are trying to tell me to stop being aggressive when you are insisting that theres a bug in your earbud recording gain? 02:38 < courtc> Dammit my car flys horribly. Must be the fuel. 02:38 * BleuLlama is amused by people who use ipl to record at 44.1khz, then record through an earphone instead of a microphone. hehe 02:39 < zsr> does the 4g installer have the newest podzilla and schtuff? 02:39 < aegray> not yet 02:39 < coob> unsupported. 02:39 < aegray> it will tomorrow i think 02:39 < zsr> bah 02:39 < zsr> ok 02:39 < zsr> recording work? 02:40 < aegray> on 4g idon't think so 02:40 -!- Pklgnome [~Pickles@24-119-126-13.cpe.cableone.net] has quit ["thanks for your help"] 02:40 < aegray> ha 02:41 < Vanquisher> but! full speed on photo 4g....and they play videos, amazing :) 02:41 < Vanquisher> coob, were you watching family guy on ur photo? 02:42 < MikeRS> I found a bug with the display of an Album list... happens every time 02:42 < aegray> what happens 02:42 < MikeRS> it's for the "A Hangover You Don't Deserve" album 02:42 < coob> yes. 02:43 < MikeRS> Starting with Shut-Up and Smile, the names are blacked out 02:43 < BleuLlama> which band is that, mike? 02:43 < MikeRS> I have a feeling it's the hyphen 02:43 < MikeRS> it's Bowling for Soup 02:43 < BleuLlama> yeah. 02:43 < MikeRS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hangover_You_Don't_Deserve 02:43 < Vanquisher> coob, how did it look? 02:43 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:43 < coob> fantastic. 02:43 < BleuLlama> podzilla has this thing against them. try changing the band name to something else, like Megadeth, and the ipod will get confused, and work properly 02:43 < BleuLlama> ;) 02:44 < Vanquisher> coob, anything special need to be done to the avi besides that mencoder command listed in the wiki 02:44 < courtc> BleuLlama- whoa what now? since when? 02:44 < aegray> no 02:45 < courtc> oh, it was a joke... 02:45 < MikeRS> I don't see a pattern though... 02:45 < courtc> I thought you meant hyphens.. 02:45 < MikeRS> It won't seem to be the space in the band name, Garth Brooks and The Killers both display fine 02:45 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:46 < courtc> I bet that hyphen is utf16 02:46 < MikeRS> and "American Honky-Tonk Bar Association" (Garth Brooks - In Pieces) and down show up fine too 02:46 < MikeRS> well, I'll change that then... shouldn't be too hard, I use GNUpod :p 02:46 < courtc> don't see why it would break the rest though... 02:47 < Vanquisher> one thing, the battery meter on the 4gs, any breakthroughs on that 02:48 < courtc> no 02:48 < Vanquisher> k 02:48 < aegray> can anyone on a 3g or below test a podzilla for me 02:48 < aegray> ? 02:49 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 < courtc> its a "happy" battery meter.. theres no "damn, the battery is almost dead" 02:49 < MikeRS> no, it's a normal hypen and still does it 02:49 -!- joecool|food is now known as joecool 02:50 < Vanquisher> courtc, but u dont know how much longer its gonna last :( 02:50 < courtc> lasts forever 02:50 < joecool> heh 02:50 < courtc> even when its dieing the battery meter is full 02:50 < joecool> the "optimistic" meter 02:51 < Vanquisher> courtc, if that were only true 02:51 < Vanquisher> joecool, did u upload that shit 02:53 < MikeRS> here's a picture if you need to see it... the names (from FreeDB.org) are the same as Wikipedia's list 02:53 < MikeRS> http://philipjfry.ath.cx/brokennames.jpg 02:53 < aegray> <= 3g tester of a cool podzill? 02:53 < aegray> who wants in? 02:53 < aegray> perks! benefits! 02:53 < MikeRS> also, the directory arrow thing 02:54 < MikeRS> However, it will play (and display normally) when I select it 02:57 < Wengero> hey umm for installing video all i had to do was replace the podzilla binary file with the one on the video page right? 02:58 < MikeRS> plus you need the video-enabled kernel 02:58 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 02:58 < Wengero> woopsies 03:02 < Wengero> what do i do with the kernel? 03:02 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:02 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:03 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 03:04 < Wengero> screw it ill just wait till tonight or tomorows nightie 03:05 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 03:09 < joshk> aegray: so, no progress at all with the firmware 03:09 < aegray> not tonight 03:09 < aegray> unless you know how to resize a vmware drive 03:10 < courtc> hmm.. 03:11 < joshk> aegray: what do you mean? 03:11 < joshk> what are you trying to do 03:11 < aegray> i run windows through vmware on linux 03:11 < aegray> the drive for vmware is out of space 03:11 < aegray> so its not letting ida load the firmware 03:11 < courtc> vmkfstools -X 03:12 < courtc> and http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html 03:12 < aegray> don't have vmkfstools 03:12 < aegray> hmm 03:13 < joshk> aegray: it doesn't work with wine? 03:13 < aegray> i suck with linux 03:13 < aegray> so i've never really set it up 03:13 < aegray> i used crossover office 03:14 < aegray> which should have worked 03:14 < aegray> but everything displayed garbled 03:14 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:14 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:18 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:20 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:24 < MikeRS> well, this is a very crude way I use to "resize" vmware disks ... 03:24 < MikeRS> 1. Make a new virtual disk 03:24 < MikeRS> 2. Use Partition Magic (or any other capable partitioner) to copy to the new disk 03:25 < MikeRS> 3. stop running the VM and delete the first disk and reassign the new one to slot 0:0 03:25 < MikeRS> 4. Manually (ugh) delete the first disk 03:25 < aegray> thats the plan eventually if i can't find a better way 03:25 < aegray> but its not happening tonight 03:26 < MikeRS> vmkfstools looks like it comes with VMware ESX Server, not VMware Workstation 03:26 < MikeRS> I have Workstation too, so you're not missing anything from my instruction :p 03:27 < joshk> hrm 03:27 < MikeRS> unimportant story because it doesn't look like any one else has something to talk about... 03:28 < joshk> looks like adding the piezo code in start_loc actually interfered with normal execution 03:28 < aegray> 3g testers? 03:28 < MikeRS> Slowest thing in VMware that I've done is install Reiser4 Gentoo in it 03:28 < joshk> i might be wrong about start_loc not working 03:28 < aegray> thats no good 03:28 < aegray> anyone want to test on a 3g? 03:29 < aegray> flexible hours? 03:29 < BleuLlama> i want to test on a 3g. send me one! ;) 03:29 < aegray> haha 03:30 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Gluon IRC, it's free and nice, why you don't use it ?"] 03:32 < joshk> aegray: so, when i boot my iPod after writing some make_fw output into it, and it goes into the iPod firmware, what part of the loader does it actually use? 03:32 < joshk> er 03:32 < joshk> it goes into the Apple firmware is wha ti meant 03:33 < aegray> starts in startup.s 03:33 < aegray> oh 03:33 < aegray> no clue 03:33 < aegray> leachbj would know that 03:33 < coob> or davidc.. 03:34 < aegray> yea him too 03:42 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit ["switch to gnome!"] 03:43 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 03:44 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:45 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 03:45 < MikeRS> (well that was a bad move... the darn thing froze up immediately .-.) 03:47 * joshk also wonders why it's possible to boot into Apple firmware with only 3MB/40MB of the original firmware 03:47 < joshk> (make_fw -e ... / make_fw -i ...) 03:48 < MikeRS> bah... it's late anyway, good night people! 03:48 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Client Quit] 03:50 < courtc> joshk, most of that is just null padding 03:50 < joshk> so why does the original? only compress to 30MB 03:50 < joshk> er 03:50 < joshk> put the ? at the end heh 03:51 < aegray> proper sentences please 03:51 < aegray> we'll have none of that here 03:51 < joshk> why does the original only compress to 30MB if only 3MB uncompressed is really needed 03:51 < courtc> ok, maybe its garbage instead! of null 03:51 < joshk> heh 03:52 -!- Wengero [~wengero@modemcable113.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 03:52 -!- smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ipodlinux 03:53 < courtc> hey its a pdpc supporter! 03:54 < aegray> whats that? 03:54 -!- rage [~rage@ppp111-51.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 < courtc> You've reached freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center. PDPC is an IRS 501(c)(3) not-for-profit, tax-exempt corporation. Your donations provide resources to help keep PDPC running. 03:55 < aegray> ah 03:57 < courtc> http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml for more! (see now I'm a supporter too!) 04:06 < aegray> 1-3g testers - anyone? 04:06 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 04:07 < aegray> damn it 04:10 < zsr> http://djsnet.co.uk/files/wtf/gold_kart.wmv 04:11 < aegray> you guys have done it now 04:11 < aegray> no 1-3g support any long 04:11 < joshk> ? 04:11 < aegray> er 04:11 < joshk> what for? 04:11 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has joined #ipodlinux 04:11 < aegray> no testers 04:15 < aegray> too bad for you guys 04:15 < aegray> this is a revolutionary program 04:15 < aegray> but you'll never know what it does 04:15 < aegray> if your on a 1-3g 04:16 < courtc> shame them into testing. 04:16 < coob> hahah revolutionary 04:16 < coob> that guy still hasn't called me. 04:16 < aegray> nor me 04:16 < aegray> monday maybe 04:17 < urbanvanilla> hey good thing i have a 4g :D 04:17 < aegray> it will revolutionize industry as we know it 04:17 < aegray> no support for you either 04:17 < courtc> he callled me.. (whoever we are talking about) 04:17 < aegray> haha 04:19 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:26 -!- groove10 [~music@adsl-158-220-134.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:35 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 04:39 < joshk> :| 04:43 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 04:43 < MikeRS> I know I said I was going <_< 04:44 < MikeRS> I had an idea... how difficult (and efficient) would it be to have on-the-fly MP3 reversing? 04:44 -!- macpod1 [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 < urbanvanilla> whats the real point of that 04:44 < urbanvanilla> subliminal messages? 04:45 < MikeRS> in a way... mainly for fun 04:45 < MikeRS> one thing: Another One Bites the Bus sounds like "It's Fun to Smoke Marijuana" :p 04:45 < MikeRS> backwards 04:45 < aegray> rencode it on desktop 04:45 < MikeRS> if it's not that easy to do it's fine... I can do it on the computer 04:46 < aegray> or write something that prebuffers audio frames from mp3 and reads them back backwords 04:47 < MikeRS> anyway... it's not a formal request... just wanted to ask it before I forgot about it over the night 04:48 < MikeRS> And good work guys! I love doing with iPL on my 4g exactly what I did with Apple's OS -- MP3s! 04:48 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has quit [Client Quit] 04:52 -!- macpod [~macpod@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:53 -!- macpod1 is now known as macpod 05:13 -!- chinchilla [~Administr@80.103.174.149] has joined #iPodLinux 05:13 < chinchilla> Hi guy 05:14 < aegray> s 05:14 < aegray> (had to complete your typing for you) 05:14 < chinchilla> i have a problem in cygwin 05:15 < chinchilla> Administrador@n0v4k-ibm ~/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod 05:15 < chinchilla> $ ./configure CC=arm-elf-gcc LDFLAGS=-elf2flt --host=arm-elf 05:15 < chinchilla> checking for gcc... arm-elf-gcc 05:15 < chinchilla> checking whether the C compiler (arm-elf-gcc -elf2flt) works... no 05:15 < chinchilla> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot creat 05:15 < chinchilla> e executables. 05:15 < aegray> hey 05:15 < chinchilla> aegray: hi 05:15 < aegray> no flood in this room 05:15 < courtc> suggestion: don't flood 05:15 < aegray> it scares me too much when you paste 05:15 < chinchilla> :$ 05:15 < courtc> better suggestion: use linux 05:15 < chinchilla> courtc: good work :D 05:16 < aegray> haha 05:16 < chinchilla> ejeje video ipod wowow 05:16 < courtc> best suggestion: ask google, ask wiki, ask forum. 05:16 < aegray> and when you figure it out email me 05:16 < aegray> i had this problem and couldn't get it 05:16 < chinchilla> forum 05:17 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/ 05:17 < coob> suggestion: install toolchain 05:17 < chinchilla> :D 05:17 < courtc> cool idea: add --build=arm-elf 05:18 < chinchilla> search... 05:22 < chinchilla> nice :( 05:22 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:29 < chinchilla> :( 05:34 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 05:37 < coob> 'Apple CEO Steve Jobs today revealed to a stunned WWDC audience that Apple would be transitioning to Sun Chips® brand multigrain snacks. 05:38 < aegray> haha 05:38 < courtc> hahaha 05:39 < chinchilla> cell :D 05:39 < chinchilla> iCell 05:41 -!- psilocyibn [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:41 < psilocyibn> yo 05:42 < psilocyibn> can some one help me 05:42 < psilocyibn> ? 05:42 < aegray> maybe 05:42 < aegray> theres forms to fill out though 05:42 < psilocyibn> i see that podzilla is installed on the mini 4g 05:42 < psilocyibn> but can it be installed on the 6gig? 05:43 < aegray> no 05:43 < aegray> not yet 05:43 < courtc> nope.. 05:43 < psilocyibn> no even at my own risk? 05:43 < aegray> no 05:43 < psilocyibn> not even at my own risk? 05:43 < aegray> won't work at all 05:43 < psilocyibn> danm 05:43 < courtc> not even then 05:43 < psilocyibn> ive tryed installing it soo many times 05:43 < aegray> well - if you like it to not work - then at your own risk 05:43 < psilocyibn> have u guys seen that video of the video player on the ipod phote? 05:44 < psilocyibn> have u guys seen that video of the video player on the ipod photo? 05:44 < aegray> which one? 05:44 < courtc> hahaha 05:44 < aegray> theres a few out there 05:44 < psilocyibn> family guy one 05:44 < aegray> maybe... 05:44 < psilocyibn> it looks soo good 05:44 < aegray> it doesn't stutter now 05:44 < aegray> so it looks better 05:44 < aegray> (yay!) 05:44 < courtc> the video player that aegray made? yea, he might have seen it.. 05:45 -!- aegray is now known as johnandrews 05:45 < johnandrews> i love that aegray guy 05:45 -!- johnandrews is now known as aegra 05:45 < psilocyibn> do u guys know when the 1st 6gig linux will availble? 05:45 < aegra> haha i can't change back 05:45 < urbanvanilla> tomorrow 05:45 < aegra> at 3:34 05:45 < aegra> no 05:45 -!- prophet17 [prophet178@ool-4353b4d1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:45 < aegra> its being worked on though 05:45 < urbanvanilla> no...4:34. get it right aegray :P 05:45 -!- aegra is now known as aegray 05:46 < prophet17> has anyone gotten the audio to work on a Photo? 05:46 < coob> http://so2.sys-techs.com/4gcountdown/ 05:46 < aegray> haha 05:46 < aegray> i got it to work 05:46 < prophet17> how? 05:46 < aegray> but i'm refusing to release it 05:46 < prophet17> grrrr 05:46 < aegray> i'm just that damn good 05:46 < prophet17> a little modest arent we hehe 05:46 < joshk> (nb: he's full of shit) 05:47 < prophet17> lol 05:47 < urbanvanilla> heh. heh. heh. 05:47 < aegray> how dare you 05:47 < aegray> /duel joshk 05:47 < prophet17> lol you play WoW i assume? 05:47 < aegray> huh? 05:47 < prophet17> guess not 05:47 * joshk wields the +7 Pallet of Outdated Hardware 05:47 < prophet17> i want this dam audio to work! 05:47 < aegray> it works 05:47 < prophet17> ahhahaha 05:48 < prophet17> with.... 05:48 * aegray doesn't understand what joshk said 05:48 < courtc> funny, audio works for me 05:48 < aegray> install a nightly 05:48 < aegray> damnit 05:48 < psilocyibn> are u guys like linux pors 05:48 < psilocyibn> pros 05:48 < prophet17> not me lol 05:48 < courtc> umm.. 05:48 < psilocyibn> DUDE IM A REASON FOR DELY??? 05:48 < prophet17> im mediocer 05:48 < psilocyibn> DANM IT 05:48 < aegray> courtc like to think of myself as a connesieur 05:48 < aegray> whoops 05:48 < psilocyibn> IM SORRY GUY 05:48 < joshk> hahaha 05:48 < joshk> connoiseur 05:49 < aegray> likes to think of hisself 05:49 < psilocyibn> mabye i can help out some how 05:49 < psilocyibn> donate something 05:49 < aegray> sure 05:49 < aegray> 300$ minimum 05:49 < aegray> and my bartab tomorrow night 05:49 < courtc> or an ipod 05:49 < aegray> actually that would be pretty good 05:49 < prophet17> lol just read the title "We ddo NOT offer 4g support yet!!" 05:49 < prophet17> oops 05:49 < courtc> I thought you were 12? 05:49 < aegray> in europe they allow us to drink 05:49 < courtc> ahha! 05:49 < psilocyibn> do u have paypal 05:50 < aegray> awesome 05:50 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:50 < courtc> heh 05:50 < psilocyibn> i can possibly send some money over 05:50 < psilocyibn> via paypal 05:50 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Donations 05:50 < courtc> how'd that index.php get in there? 05:50 < prophet17> aegray: what are you running on your 4g now a nightly and the audio works? 05:50 < aegray> you should have taken it for yourself 05:50 < aegray> i'm running my own custom kernel 05:51 < aegray> i wrote it from scratch 05:51 < aegray> 3 years in the running 05:51 < prophet17> i wish i knew how to program 05:51 < aegray> read the cvs changelog on the mainpage 05:51 < psilocyibn> HEY 05:51 < psilocyibn> I DONATED 05:51 < psilocyibn> Total Amount: €0.03 EUR 05:51 < psilocyibn> is that cool 05:51 < prophet17> lol 05:51 < aegray> i dunno about that 05:51 < prophet17> the dam ViPodzilla audio doesnt work 05:51 < psilocyibn> i really did donate that 05:51 < psilocyibn> i hope it helps you guys 05:52 < aegray> from when? 05:52 < aegray> use new viPodzilla 05:52 < aegray> it got added a while ago 05:52 < psilocyibn> what ipod do u have gray? 05:52 < aegray> = read wiki 05:52 < prophet17> hmmm let me check 05:52 < aegray> ipod photo and ipod 4g 05:52 < aegray> and ipod 5g 05:52 < psilocyibn> the 5gig? 05:52 < aegray> (proto) 05:52 < psilocyibn> is that good 05:52 < aegray> its pretty sweet 05:53 < prophet17> im running podzilla 2005-04-17CVS 05:53 < prophet17> thats what the "about" screen says 05:53 < aegray> 2005-05-25 and above has audio i think 05:53 < psilocyibn> whats the best linux for the pod? 05:53 < prophet17> it does.....but only for a split second 05:53 < aegray> what do you mean by best linux? 05:53 < aegray> ipodlinux i would guess because thats the only one 05:54 < aegray> prophet17: what? 05:54 < psilocyibn> o 05:54 < psilocyibn> i thought podzilla was a differn't one 05:54 < psilocyibn> mabye i have the tottaly wrong view on the opd linux scene 05:54 < psilocyibn> mabye i have the tottaly wrong view on the pod linux scene 05:54 < smacmac> Podzilla is not linux. 05:55 < smacmac> it is a program 05:55 < courtc> podzilla starts with a lower-case p. 05:55 < prophet17> the audio plays but extremely choppy 05:55 < urbanvanilla> why exactly is stuff called zilla anyway 05:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 05:55 < prophet17> and will actually play for a split second 05:55 < aegray> get a new podzilla 05:55 < aegray> it plays pretty good now 05:56 < prophet17> i thought i had the most recent? 05:56 < courtc> Imagine godzilla poddized. 05:56 < urbanvanilla> well obviously you dont 05:56 < aegray> maybe release 05:56 < aegray> get a nightly 05:56 < prophet17> ok 05:56 < courtc> and you have trogdor. 05:56 < prophet17> be right back 05:57 < psilocyibn> wait, so can i install any of these programs on my ipod 6gig? 05:57 < psilocyibn> can i change it in anyway 05:57 < aegray> no 05:57 < psilocyibn> install games of anykind? 05:57 < aegray> no 05:57 < aegray> not yet 05:57 < psilocyibn> :( 05:57 < courtc> you must be patient 05:57 < psilocyibn> ok 05:58 < psilocyibn> i bet the japensese already have linux on the 6gig 05:58 < aegray> yea - thats it 05:58 < aegray> those damn japanese 05:58 < psilocyibn> hahaha 05:58 < aegray> just beating us to everything 05:58 < psilocyibn> just messin 05:58 < psilocyibn> are u the creator of ipodlinux 05:58 < joshk> no 05:58 < aegray> joshk is 05:58 < joshk> that's right 05:58 < psilocyibn> danm 05:59 < prophet17> dammit it wont boot into the apple OS lol 05:59 < courtc> whos joshk 05:59 < aegray> what a genious huh? 05:59 < joshk> dunno him 05:59 < psilocyibn> i wish i knew how to code like u guys 05:59 < aegray> code? 05:59 < courtc> u? 05:59 < psilocyibn> code linux on ipod 05:59 < courtc> oh, you? 05:59 < prophet17> isnt there a key combo to boot into the original firmware? 05:59 < joshk> dude, we just sit on the toilet with our laptops, get high, and by the time we flush the toilet the code works 06:00 < aegray> genious joshk just genious 06:00 < aegray> you don't even remember doing it 06:00 < joshk> yeah 06:00 < psilocyibn> i have these plans for the mini, to attach a camera on the top and able to record and all 06:00 < psilocyibn> i already designed the camera 06:00 < courtc> yea, double tap rewind then you circles counter-clockwise on the wheel, thats the Kick-Of-Frost. 06:00 < psilocyibn> i need some one to code for me 06:00 < aegray> is it made out of cardboard? 06:00 < psilocyibn> no 06:00 < psilocyibn> plastic 06:00 < psilocyibn> chips 06:00 < psilocyibn> im not joking 06:00 -!- psilocyibn is now known as psilocybin 06:01 < psilocybin> do u wanna help me out 06:01 < courtc> dude, sun chips are for eating. 06:01 < aegray> sure 06:01 < aegray> haha 06:02 < aegray> lets see the camera 06:04 < psilocybin> i was lying 06:04 < aegray> wait. really? 06:04 < psilocybin> i just wanted to fit in with u guys 06:04 < psilocybin> yes 06:04 < aegray> cuz i was thinking that the mini would be perfect for both displaying videos and saving them 06:04 < courtc> maybe he's lying now.. can't tell. 06:05 < aegray> i know 06:05 < aegray> i don't trust anyone know 06:05 < aegray> now* 06:05 < aegray> damnit 06:05 < psilocybin> lol 06:05 < psilocybin> how told are u gray 06:05 < psilocybin> how old are u gray 06:05 < aegray> 12 06:05 < aegray> for real 06:05 < aegray> ask courtc 06:05 < prophet17> the nightly will support 4g right 06:05 < psilocybin> ya rite 06:05 < courtc> very told, I told him earlier 06:05 < psilocybin> im 18 06:05 < aegray> yes 06:05 < aegray> no support 06:06 < psilocybin> and i like do combine psilocybin mushrooms with xtc 06:06 < psilocybin> its called hippie flippin 06:06 < joshk> i'm the queen of france 06:06 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing psilocybin mushrooms with lsd 06:07 < psilocybin> its called candy flippin 06:07 < psilocybin> WOOPS 06:07 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing XTC with lsd 06:07 < psilocybin> its called candy flippin 06:07 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing ketamine with XTC 06:07 < psilocybin> its called kitty flippin 06:07 -!- prophet17 [prophet178@ool-4353b4d1.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:07 < aegray> want a prize? 06:07 < psilocybin> gray i bet if u did any of those u'd die 06:08 < aegray> probably 06:08 < aegray> your just so hard 06:08 < psilocybin> no 06:08 < psilocybin> im not 06:08 < aegray> nothing effects you 06:08 < courtc> I enjoy combining ops with stfu 06:08 < psilocybin> accually 06:08 < psilocybin> heroin hits the spot 06:08 < courtc> seriously, enough. 06:08 < aegray> +q 06:12 -!- carote [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 -!- prophet17 [prophet178@ool-4353b4d1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 < prophet17> how do i boot into the original firmware 06:15 < aegray> hold left when you boot 06:15 < aegray> (rewind) 06:15 < prophet17> ok 06:16 < prophet17> doesnt work 06:16 < psilocybin> later guys 06:16 < psilocybin> later guys 06:16 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:16 < psilocybin> later guys 06:16 < prophet17> goodbye 06:16 -!- psilocybin [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has quit [] 06:17 < prophet17> is there another way to do it? 06:18 < aegray> restore utility 06:18 < prophet17> i cant 06:18 < prophet17> my computer wont pick up the ipod 06:19 < aegray> 4g? 06:19 < prophet17> unless im running the apple OS 06:19 < prophet17> yeah 06:19 < urbanvanilla> plug it in, then reboot 06:19 < prophet17> photo 06:19 < urbanvanilla> or put it into diskmode 06:19 < aegray> press + hold menu+select 06:19 < courtc> pick up, eh? 06:19 < aegray> then when apple appears 06:19 * courtc sleeps 06:19 < prophet17> yeah 06:19 < aegray> press+hold select and play 06:19 < aegray> good idea courtc 06:20 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-212-38.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:20 < aegray> EvilDude! 06:20 < aegray> i have something for you to try! 06:20 < EvilDude> hey 06:20 < EvilDude> woot :) 06:21 < prophet17> not working.... 06:21 < aegray> did it reboot? 06:21 < urbanvanilla> prophet, is it plugged in at the moment 06:21 < prophet17> yeah....into linux 06:21 < aegray> hold on - i'll email it to you 06:21 < prophet17> yes 06:21 < EvilDude> ok :) 06:21 < urbanvanilla> are you sure :) 06:21 < prophet17> usb 06:21 < aegray> when apple appears press rewind + select (center) 06:21 < aegray> hold 06:21 < prophet17> k 06:21 < aegray> then scroll to diskmod 06:21 < aegray> e 06:21 < aegray> i'll email you a podzilla to try 06:22 < prophet17> ok works now thanks =) 06:22 < aegray> sent 06:22 < aegray> try that out for size 06:23 < EvilDude> so no kernel changing required? 06:23 < aegray> this isn't for video 06:23 < aegray> you'll see what it is 06:23 < aegray> main menu will have something new 06:23 < EvilDude> oo ok 06:23 < urbanvanilla> :O 06:23 < aegray> i don't know if it works on 3g 06:23 < urbanvanilla> sounds interesting.. 06:24 * urbanvanilla makes hand gestures 06:24 < aegray> too bad for you 06:24 < prophet17> very 06:24 < aegray> i told you i'm not supporting you 06:24 < aegray> or maybe that was someone else 06:24 < urbanvanilla> meanie 06:24 < aegray> haha 06:24 < urbanvanilla> no, that was me :) 06:24 < EvilDude> OH 06:24 < urbanvanilla> i dont remember why though 06:24 < prophet17> lol 06:24 < EvilDude> turns off screen 06:24 < aegray> ok good - have to keep who i'm an asshole to straight 06:24 < aegray> shhhh 06:24 < urbanvanilla> :O 06:24 < EvilDude> but i know the screen is still sorta on 06:24 < EvilDude> lol whoops =\ 06:25 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 06:25 < EvilDude> i mean its not working :P 06:25 < urbanvanilla> duuuuuuuude 06:25 < EvilDude> i think this belongs to pm :p 06:25 < aegray> haha 06:25 < urbanvanilla> now thats just cruel 06:25 < aegray> you'll get it sometime 06:26 < urbanvanilla> yeah, it doesnt actually bother me, heh, im supposed to be studying 06:26 < urbanvanilla> s'better it doesn't get to me sooner. 06:30 < prophet17> uh the audio comes on for like a second 06:30 < zsr> www.novastream.org/listen.m3uu 06:30 < zsr> www.novastream.org/listen.m3u 06:30 < zsr> :) 06:30 < zsr> i is djin 06:33 < prophet17> whats "malloc failed" mean? 06:33 < aegray> it means that the mp3 was too large 06:33 < aegray> talk to EvilDude 06:33 < prophet17> oh 06:34 < EvilDude> we have problems with mp3 playback 06:34 < EvilDude> the free doesnt seem to be working very well it seems 06:34 < prophet17> yeah 06:34 < prophet17> everything else is awesome though 06:34 < prophet17> just no good audio 06:35 < aegray> on a 4g? 06:35 < prophet17> yeah 06:35 < urbanvanilla> i love it how everyone who says something isnt working hasta go 'but everything else is great!' to cover arse. 06:35 < aegray> damn it - audio works 06:35 < urbanvanilla> ;) 06:35 < EvilDude> latest 4g has good audio :P 06:35 < aegray> i can listen to 320kbps mp3s on 4g 06:35 < EvilDude> latest nightlies should be awesome 06:35 < EvilDude> haha 06:35 < prophet17> can you give me a link please? 06:35 < prophet17> i have to be looking in the wrong spots then 06:35 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/ 06:36 < prophet17> and these are the instructions correct? http://www.ipodlinux.org/Windows_nightly_build_installation 06:36 < aegray> you download those and copy the linux.bin and podzilla into the installer directory (overwrite the originals - make sure they're overwriting) 06:36 < prophet17> ok 06:36 < prophet17> let me try 06:36 < aegray> yes 06:39 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-174-3-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:40 < prophet17> i have to rename 2005-03-30-kenel.bin to linux.bin right? 06:40 < EvilDude> yes 06:41 < prophet17> is that all i need? 06:42 < prophet17> the linux.bin? 06:42 < prophet17> and podzilla goes into the root right? 06:43 < EvilDude> yes 06:43 < prophet17> ok 06:43 < EvilDude> if you have a start script at least it does 06:43 < EvilDude> make sure there's a file called "start" on the ipod root 06:43 < prophet17> with those 2 lines of code right 06:44 < EvilDude> what are the lines? 06:44 < prophet17> mv /hp/podzilla /sbin/ 06:44 < prophet17> rm /hp/start /hp/podzilla 06:45 < EvilDude> good enough 06:45 < prophet17> how should i make this file? 06:46 < prophet17> text and remove the extension? 06:48 < prophet17> nevermind i got it 06:48 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:49 < prophet17> now i get a picture of a file with a ! symbol next to it and it reboots itself 06:53 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:55 < EvilDude> thats not good 06:55 < urbanvanilla> it surprises me that people dont realise what that means. 06:55 < EvilDude> you might need to do an update 06:55 < EvilDude> use apple updater to update 06:55 < EvilDude> and then install 07:00 < prophet17> i can only restore 07:03 < prophet17> it says its up to date 07:03 < prophet17> version 1.0 07:14 < prophet17> ok ive done it three times i give up 07:15 -!- Fenix-Dark [~scotteden@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:17 < EvilDude> lol well to restore you have to change stuff in the sysinfo file 07:17 < EvilDude> read the windows installer faq or readme or something on how to do that 07:25 -!- chinchilla [~Administr@80.103.174.149] has left #iPodLinux [] 07:26 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-67-174-3-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:26 < EvilDude> couldnt sleep :P ? 07:27 < aegray> eh - i'm waiting for these songs to transfer to my ipod 07:27 < EvilDude> h 07:27 < aegray> then i can go home 07:27 < EvilDude> oh* 07:27 < EvilDude> home :| ? 07:27 < aegray> and i missed your company 07:27 < EvilDude> haha 07:27 < EvilDude> whats the time and you're at WORK :| ? 07:27 < aegray> i'm at dads house - i live with mom (during summer at least) 07:27 < EvilDude> ohh ok 07:28 < EvilDude> I thought you just couldnt sleep with all the code inyour mind ;) 07:29 < aegray> i've been staring at this screen for way too long 07:29 < aegray> i have no code in my brain 07:29 < EvilDude> haha damn 07:30 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 07:33 < aegray> is http://www.ipodlinux.org/User:Aegray going too far? 07:33 -!- xaviercr [~xaviercr6@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:33 < EvilDude> hahahaha 07:33 < EvilDude> nice ;) 07:34 < aegray> i dunno - i might change that 07:34 < EvilDude> but unfortunately a profile at ipodlinux wiki isnt the best place to hook up with girls ;) 07:34 < aegray> haha 07:34 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-202-066.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 < EvilDude> You can always prove me wrong though :P 07:35 < aegray> haha - i'm taken but that would be hilarious 07:35 -!- prophet17 [prophet178@ool-4353b4d1.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read 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break 08:36 < urbanvanilla> my left eye is starting to twitch 08:36 < urbanvanilla> no. right eye. 08:36 < EvilDude> heh 08:57 -!- joshk_ [joshk@adsl-68-126-199-188.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:04 -!- tlg [~tlg@75-213.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 09:10 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-202-066.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:14 -!- joshk [joshk@joshk.developer.debian] has joined #ipodlinux 09:25 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:25 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 09:32 -!- Wengero [~wengero@modemcable113.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 09:33 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 09:38 < Wengero> hey um... i cant seem to get back to apple, i restarted and nothing happend then i restarted while holding << and nothing happend 10:02 -!- Wammy 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[~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 14:07 < voldern> Hi, can anybody help me whit my 4G ipod and installing linux on it, on linux? 14:07 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 14:08 -!- Synapse-_ [~face@c211-30-78-164.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:09 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:15 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 14:19 -!- Synapse- [~face@c211-30-78-164.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:19 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:25 < Z_Man> is it a bad idea to sell my pc to get a mac? 14:26 < aegray> depends on who you ask 14:27 < Z_Man> i know 14:27 < Z_Man> but i want the overall opinion 14:28 < Faulty> why bother? mac are looking to shift to intel chips soon from ppc 14:29 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined 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I cant partition it, i cant use the length that i listed there or creating a third partiton, and some other errors. 14:30 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:31 < Z_Man> Faulty: when they do, would i be able to run Mac OS on my i686? 14:32 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:32 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:32 < Faulty> voldern, when u partition it, delete /dev/sda1, you only need 1-2 cylinders for /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda3 takes up the rest of the space from the partition you deleted 14:32 < Faulty> Z_Man, unknown i don't know enough of their plans, however that's the conclusion i would like to draw 14:34 < voldern> So, fdisk /dev/sda 14:34 < voldern> d, 1 14:34 < voldern> Warning: partition 1 has empty type 14:34 < Faulty> yep 14:34 < Faulty> that error is ok 14:34 < Faulty> (it's just some other os's like winblows don't like empty partitions 14:34 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 < Faulty> Z_Man, i've only read the cnet article http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.pop 14:36 < voldern> and then: n, 1 14:36 < Faulty> yep 14:36 < voldern> n, p, 1 14:36 < voldern> First cylinder, 1 14:37 < voldern> Last cylinder, ? 14:37 < Faulty> start cyl 1, end cyl 1 (i only needed 1 cyl on my ipod mini) 14:37 < voldern> a, 1, t, 1, 0 14:37 < Faulty> yep good.. now list the table.. which cyl does /dev/sda2 start? 14:38 < voldern> 6 14:38 < Faulty> yep same as mine ok 14:38 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:38 < Faulty> nilss, p, 3 14:38 < Faulty> first cyl 2, last cyl 5 14:38 < voldern> ol 14:38 < voldern> ok 14:38 < voldern> and then w 14:38 < Faulty> list the table make sure it looks good 14:39 < voldern> It looks good 14:39 < Faulty> then w 14:39 < voldern> and then follow the rest of the guide? 14:39 < Faulty> yeah.. however, i had a problem using the release version of ipodloader 14:40 < voldern> ok, il come back to that later. Thanks! 14:40 < Faulty> it looked like that release didn't support 4g ipods.. so i had to compile it from the sources on cvs 14:48 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 14:49 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 14:50 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:50 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:51 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-221-134.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:01 < voldern> Faulty: Can you help me compile the ipodloader with cvs, im not familiar with cvs. 15:05 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498DF17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:06 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 15:08 -!- Synapse- [~face@c211-30-78-164.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 15:19 -!- Synapse-_ [~face@c211-30-78-164.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:23 < voldern> The lib directory below refers to the directory from the kernel release and contains the modules directory. <-- What kernel realease 15:23 < voldern> Its from the linux installation 15:24 < voldern> Ahh i found it out 15:38 < voldern> Can some one help me using cvs to compile the ipodloader? 15:38 -!- Z_Man [~zachary@cpe-24-209-89-190.woh.res.rr.com] has quit ["Die Microshit!"] 15:38 -!- voldern [~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:40 -!- _matt_ [~matt@host-84-9-102-34.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:44 -!- sicarius [~sicarius@65.66.90.197] has joined #ipodlinux 15:44 < sicarius> Good morning! 15:44 < aegray> hi 15:45 < sicarius> I can't seem to get amaroK (or SuSE 9.3) to allow me to use my iPod. Any help? 15:45 < _matt_> hey aegray, do you know a player for linux that i can use to test converted videos before I put them on my ipod (mini)? 15:45 < aegray> amarok doesn't work with ipod id on't think 15:45 < aegray> not yet 15:45 < aegray> we need to write that 15:45 < sicarius> It sees it, but crashes anything I try and view it with. 15:45 < sicarius> Yes it says it does. 15:45 < aegray> ah - no clue then 15:45 -!- sicarius [~sicarius@65.66.90.197] has quit [Client Quit] 15:46 -!- sicarius [~sicarius@65.66.90.197] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 -!- sicarius [~sicarius@65.66.90.197] has left #ipodlinux ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:47 < _matt_> ok then no probs 15:47 < aegray> i have part of that written 15:47 < aegray> so well see 15:47 < _matt_> the photo formatted examples will play with mplayer i found 15:47 < aegray> except the colors should be flipped 15:47 < aegray> so it looks like heat vision camera 15:48 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:48 < _matt_> ? well the diving board example from the wiki played normally (not heat vision like) 15:48 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 15:48 < aegray> do you have an ipod photo? 15:49 < aegray> it should play messed up on an ipod photo then 15:49 < aegray> shit 15:49 < aegray> thats not good 15:49 < _matt_> nope I have a mini. 15:50 -!- phb_ [~phb@gw.upc.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:50 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:52 < coob> aegray the photo avis play fine on mplayer.. 15:52 < aegray> oh ok 15:52 < aegray> nm then 15:52 < coob> and fine on the 1.0 photos 15:53 < aegray> i'll shut my mouth 15:53 < coob> damns traight! :) 15:53 < coob> straight :/ 15:53 < aegray> coob - you've been getting good mp3 playback on photo right? 15:53 < coob> yarr 15:53 < aegray> mine stutters like all hell still 15:53 < aegray> hmmm 15:53 < coob> yeah ipp hates vbr 15:53 < aegray> ah 15:53 < coob> try some cbr 15:54 < aegray> ok 15:54 < coob> helix <3 vbr 15:55 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:57 < coob> Single-handedly putting to shame every iPod mugger on the planet, last Wednesday some dude in Los Angeles managed to drive away with more than $2.6 million worth of iPods after he infilitrated a freight forwarding business and “took over delivery” of over 12,000 iPods. 15:57 < aegray> holy shit 15:58 < _matt_> alright thats great see ya 15:58 -!- _matt_ [~matt@host-84-9-102-34.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:00 -!- phb_ [~phb@gw.upc.se] has quit [] 16:01 < coob> I like long walks on the beach, holding hands, and puppies. I'm strong but sensitive, and I'm not afraid to cry when it feels right. Friends have said I look like Brad Pitt with a little bit of Tom Cruise. I'm smart, sassy, and not afraid of adventure. I'm looking for someone who's playful, funny, and independent, but can be sensitive to my needs as well. 16:01 * coob rofl 16:01 < aegray> whats rofl 16:02 < aegray> haha 16:02 < aegray> rofl? 16:02 -!- urbanvanilla [urbanvanil@203-59-12-152.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 16:02 < coob> rolling on the floor laughing 16:02 < aegray> haha 16:08 < aegray> coob you know about browser.c? 16:08 < coob> a little, why? 16:08 < coob> (that's courtc's baby) 16:09 < aegray> i have a 5gb movie thats being listed as a directory (the flashing arrow) 16:09 < aegray> so i'm thinking the size is causing something 16:09 -!- salgado is now known as salgado-lunch 16:09 < coob> i didn't know FAT supported files bigger than 2gb 16:10 < aegray> i tried it on fat then i tried reformatting the whole thing as ext2 16:10 < aegray> and on ext2 it still does the same 16:10 < coob> heh ext2 doesn't support more than 2gb either does it?!!? 16:10 < aegray> ah shit 16:10 < aegray> what does? 16:10 < coob> reiserfs 16:10 < coob> xfs 16:11 < coob> or you could just use avisplit 16:11 < coob> to split the video into chunks 16:11 < aegray> ok 16:11 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 < Cippo> wow, loads of people here :D 16:12 < coob> i think it's part of transcode 16:12 < coob> at least, avimerge is 16:13 < aegray> avisplit -i file.avi -s 1900 ? 16:13 < coob> dunno not got it installed 16:13 < aegray> k 16:14 < aegray> gonna have to make something to load a movie descriptor file which holds each chunk 16:14 < aegray> or implement compression 16:14 < aegray> but thats just crazy 16:14 < aegray> who would want to do that? 16:15 -!- voldern [~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:15 < coob> i was just about to have a go at implimenting simple lzo compression 16:15 < coob> well, decompression 16:15 < aegray> nice 16:15 < coob> just lzop'ing the whole file 16:15 < voldern> Faulty: There? 16:15 < coob> and reading it in with lzo_fread 16:15 < aegray> ah - that would be pretty good 16:16 < aegray> easy to implement to i'm guessing 16:16 < coob> yeah, no low level fram decompression to worry about 16:16 < coob> yar. 16:16 < coob> although nothing would beat proper video compression heh 16:16 < aegray> true 16:16 -!- sleep`zzz [~offline@c211-30-199-28.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:17 < aegray> i'm thinking that mplayer has the libavcodec 16:17 < aegray> and i'm going to look at how those are implemente 16:17 < aegray> d 16:17 < aegray> maybe i can use the same thing (although floats scare me) 16:17 < aegray> baha "Welcome to 1982. 16:17 < aegray> " 16:17 < aegray> avisplit sucks 16:17 < aegray> it segfaulted 16:18 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 16:19 < coob> lol 16:19 < coob> on a 2bpp conv one 16:19 < coob> or a photo one? 16:19 < aegray> photo 16:19 < aegray> = shouldn't happen 16:19 < coob> lol. i wonder if mencoder can split 16:19 < coob> i don't see why not, it does everything else... 16:21 < coob> hm nope 16:22 < voldern> I know im not supposed to ask, but can anybody pleas guide me throug installing the Kernel, im finished with the partitioning. 16:22 < voldern> on a 4g 16:23 < Cippo> voldern, have you compiled the ipodloader? 16:23 < aegray> love how i'm supposed to be working and i'm doing this 16:23 < voldern> No, some on said i need to use cvs. But i tried and didnt figure it out. 16:23 < aegray> firing here i come 16:23 < aegray> are you on windows or linux? 16:23 < aegray> or mac 16:23 < voldern> linux 16:24 < aegray> did you check out all the code? 16:24 < Cippo> http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building 16:24 < Cippo> http://ipodlinux.org/CVS 16:24 < aegray> and there you go 16:24 < coob> someone other than me is a wikibot 16:24 < coob> hooray. 16:24 * aegray loves people who read the wiki 16:24 < Cippo> hehe, just compiled the kernel myself :) 16:24 < Cippo> not sure if i'll install it though... 16:25 < voldern> I read the CVS part of the wiki but didnt figure ut out. But il try reading the Kernel Building. 16:25 < voldern> Thanks 16:25 < aegray> did you do a cvs checkout yet ? do you have to cod on your sys now? 16:26 < voldern> I didnt undestand anything of the cvs stuff. Didnt download anything. 16:26 < aegray> do 16:26 < aegray> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux 16:26 < aegray> cvs login 16:26 < aegray> enter at password 16:26 -!- Wamnix [~linux@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:27 < aegray> then cvs -z3 checkout -P tools/ipodloader 16:27 -!- tlg [~tlg@75-213.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:27 < voldern> Thanks :) 16:27 < aegray> yep - thats all on the cvs page 16:31 < Cippo> aegray, are you one of the devs? 16:31 -!- tlg [~tlg@117-223.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 16:31 < coob> yes 16:32 < Cippo> i just must say im impressed.... never seen a cooler project in years :) 16:33 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 16:34 -!- awake`zzz [~offline@c211-30-199-28.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:34 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:38 < joshk> aegray: any luck disassembling the firmware? 16:38 < aegray> not yet 16:39 < joshk> is it possible to disassemble it as-is? 16:40 < joshk> i was looking at it last night and it looked like it wasn't too coherent 16:40 < aegray> i think its encrypted 16:40 < aegray> but theres code somewhere in there that enencrypts it 16:41 < joshk> heh 16:41 < joshk> well you're the manm 16:42 < aegray> berns the man 16:50 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:56 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:57 -!- salgado-lunch is now known as salgado 16:58 < Thunder_3k1> hallo 16:58 < Thunder_3k1> hello 16:58 < Cippo> hallois 16:58 < coob> aegray i have to leave soon, i was wrong about lzo_fred/write :/ it's a little more complicated, but not too much so 16:59 < coob> grab the lzo source 16:59 < coob> and check out example/lpack.c 16:59 < aegray> ok 16:59 < aegray> lzop.org? 17:00 < coob> http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzo/ 17:01 < aegray> minilzo? 17:01 < aegray> or lzo full 17:02 < Sereroku> apple keynote xD 17:02 < Sereroku> now 17:02 < aegray> ugh loading this firmware into ida takes half an hour 17:03 -!- Faulty [~Faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:05 < aegray> minilzo it is for now 17:07 -!- voldern [~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:07 -!- ambush [~ambush@MTL-HSE-ppp160713.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #iPodLinux 17:08 -!- ambush [~ambush@MTL-HSE-ppp160713.qc.sympatico.ca] has left #iPodLinux [] 17:08 < Sereroku> i got the old iPL installer, can i just install with the new one over the old linux? 17:13 < joshk> aegray: i ran make_fw on it before looking at it 17:13 < joshk> it's full of zeros anyway 17:13 < aegray> ah 17:13 < aegray> whats the make_fw command for that? 17:13 < joshk> it's the one with -e 17:13 < joshk> run it with no arguments and check the help output 17:14 < aegray> whatd you type - whole line? 17:14 < aegray> not feeling like searching 17:14 < aegray> haha 17:14 < joshk> i'm not at home anymore.. don't have the programs handy 17:14 < aegray> k 17:15 -!- Faulteh [~Faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:17 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:18 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc80f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:20 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc80f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:22 < Cippo> im definetly gonna install ipodlinux. IT GOT INVADERS!! :D 17:22 < Faulteh> hehe i did that 4 tuxchess :) 17:23 < Cippo> :) 17:23 < Faulteh> unfortunately i can't get ipodloader to dual-boot properly with my mini :( 17:23 < Cippo> not? 17:23 < Cippo> i got a linux 17:23 < Cippo> *mini :) 17:23 < joshk> Faulteh: is it a second generation mini? 17:23 < Faulteh> nah it booted linux fine, couldn't boot the old apple os 17:24 < Faulteh> well it's the 4gb one, i think that's 1g mini, got it december last year in .au 17:24 < Faulteh> i'm just waiting for my flatmate to return from .uk he's a gr8 reverse engineer i need his guidance to help much atm 17:26 < aegray> oh god this is hideous 17:26 < aegray> make code gives me garbage code in most places 17:27 < aegray> maybe i loaded it wrong 17:27 < joshk> right 17:27 < joshk> i saw that too... 17:27 < joshk> so don't you have to decrypt it? 17:27 < aegray> what params did you use? 17:27 < aegray> i don't know 17:27 < joshk> i said it was ARM code 17:27 < joshk> and it gave me sorta garbage 17:27 < aegray> and ram section and rom section params? 17:27 < joshk> no 17:27 < BleuLlama> Faulteh: does it say [4gb] on the back? 17:28 -!- voldern [~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < smacmac_> MacOSX 10.5 Leopard!!! 17:29 < Faulteh> no just the serial number and stuff, no 4gb anywhere 17:29 < aegray> excellent 17:30 < BleuLlama> cool. yeah. that's a first gen Mini. 17:31 < Cippo> doesnt the 2g mini have other colors on the keys too? 17:31 < BleuLlama> yeah. color is deeper on the case and buttons 17:31 < BleuLlama> and there's no gold colored 2ndgen mini 17:31 < BleuLlama> but the silver mini, for example, looks the same. 17:31 < BleuLlama> buttons are silver, like the old one. 17:34 < Cippo> ok 17:35 < Sereroku> BOOLEAN_MENU <- where is it defined? 17:35 < smacmac_> BleuLlama. On your User: page you say you have a iPod 1g 10GB. Isn't that impossible? 17:35 < courtc> mlist.h 17:35 < Sereroku> k 17:35 < Faulteh> sweet 17:36 < Faulteh> damn this buggy dsl modem! 17:37 < aegray> reboot 17:37 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:38 < Sereroku> what's the world clock in podzilla for? 17:38 < ssteve> apple is officially switching to intel 17:39 < Sereroku> damn 17:39 < Sereroku> but when they're faster it's ok -.- 17:41 < BleuLlama> um. no. 17:41 < BleuLlama> it's not impossible. i have it 17:42 < BleuLlama> first gen hardware came out in 5, 10 and 15 gig models, i believe 17:43 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:48 < Sereroku> how should i call the German Podzilla? ^^ 17:48 < aegray> with a phone 17:48 < courtc> what? 17:48 < aegray> (oh god) 17:48 < Sereroku> na 17:48 < Sereroku> a name 17:48 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:48 < joshk> Pödzilla 17:49 < Sereroku> lol 17:49 < Sereroku> nö 17:49 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:49 < courtc> call it podzilla 17:49 < Sereroku> -.- 17:49 < Sereroku> no 17:49 < Sereroku> it needs a special name rofl 17:49 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:49 < joshk> Sauerkraut 17:49 < Sereroku> ROFL 17:49 < Sereroku> xD 17:49 < courtc> why don't you wait until i18n is finished 17:50 < Sereroku> Pod "Sauerkraut" Zilla 17:50 < BleuLlama> podzilla_de 17:50 < Sereroku> ah no 17:50 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:50 < Sereroku> i like Pod "Sauerkraut" Zilla 17:50 < Sereroku> :) 17:50 < aegray> the podzilla_de has a nice ring to it 17:50 < aegray> really makes me think 17:50 < Sereroku> or, Podzilla, Sauerkraut Edition 17:50 < aegray> wow - podzilla in german 17:51 < Sereroku> DEPodzilla 17:51 < Sereroku> ah ok i take podzilla_de 17:51 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:52 < joshk> all the germans are calling things 'moin' nowadays 17:52 < joshk> moinzilla 17:52 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:53 < Sereroku> Tachzilla 17:53 < Sereroku> Sauerkrautzilla rulez xD 17:53 < courtc> i18n 17:53 < Thunder_3k1> BraunZilla 17:53 < Sereroku> -.- 17:53 < Sereroku> nö 17:53 < BleuLlama> Meinzilla 17:53 < Thunder_3k1> spaĂź beiseite 17:53 < joshk> Fuhrerzilla 17:54 < BleuLlama> joshk - we're on the same wavelength 17:54 < Sereroku> no joshk 17:54 < aegray> haha 17:54 < Sereroku> Nazilla? 17:54 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:54 < Thunder_3k1> thats not funny 17:54 < Sereroku> it is 17:54 < Sereroku> :P 17:54 < joshk> BleuLlama: ICanWalkZilla 17:54 < Thunder_3k1> neim Mietz 17:54 < Thunder_3k1> nein 17:54 < Sereroku> lol 17:55 < Thunder_3k1> sag mal wo is eigentlich der KDE 17:55 < BleuLlama> Musikkasten-Men|system-zilla 17:55 < Thunder_3k1> MAN T-Online macht schon wieder ends den scheis 17:55 < Thunder_3k1> mein internet ist genau so schnel wie vohr Hundert Jahren 17:56 < aegray> #ipodlinux.de 17:56 < Thunder_3k1> OK 17:56 < Sereroku> DDRZilla 17:56 < Sereroku> the version for the east germans xD 17:57 < Thunder_3k1> WOZilla 17:57 < BleuLlama> no 17:57 < BleuLlama> and i see "DDR" and think "Dance Dance Revolution"... 17:57 < BleuLlama> hehe 17:57 < aegray> i thought thats what it was 17:57 < aegray> what is it really? 17:57 < Sereroku> lol 17:57 < Thunder_3k1> DE ZILLA 17:57 < Sereroku> DDR is deutsch demokratische republik 17:58 < Sereroku> ^^ 17:58 < BleuLlama> well, there's dual dataport ram (is that right?) and deutsch um... yeah. 17:58 < Thunder_3k1> GERMANY ROX 17:59 < BleuLlama> a lot of good music came from Germany 17:59 < BleuLlama> and 1/4 of my ancestors. ;) 17:59 * BleuLlama is 1/4 german, 1/4 Austrian, 1/2 Russian 17:59 < BleuLlama> iirc 17:59 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:00 < voldern> This is a 4g question, im finished compiling my own kernel. I have come to the part of installing the userland. Should i just follow the standar instructions found at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux? 18:01 -!- _matt_ [~matt@host-84-9-102-34.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #iPodLinux 18:02 < Thunder_3k1> Does anybody knows Die Totenhosen 18:03 < aegray> yea 18:03 < aegray> good guy 18:03 < aegray> played football with him in high school 18:03 < aegray> yes follow those intsructions 18:03 < Thunder_3k1> It is a Group 18:04 < aegray> oh 18:04 < Thunder_3k1> -.- 18:04 < Thunder_3k1> ^-^ 18:05 < _matt_> Just to report, got video working on my Mini, its great 18:05 < BleuLlama> i played with that group in high school football. good people. 18:05 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 < aegray> nice 18:05 < aegray> haha 18:05 < BleuLlama> ;) 18:06 < aegray> fix it right - i played ipod with that ipod group in ipod high school 18:06 < aegray> gotta keep with the topic 18:06 -!- Faulteh [~Faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:08 < Sereroku> so my Podzilla got the Name Sauerkrautzilla and its the CVS Podzilla + Text Input + German Translation =) 18:09 < voldern> For 4g, should i just use the standar ipod_fs_040403.tar.gz file? 18:09 < Thunder_3k1> Gut gemacht 18:09 < aegray> sure 18:11 -!- fessiers [~dave@adsl-216-103-47-182.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:11 < voldern> It every body in here german? 18:12 < Thunder_3k1> ja 18:12 < leachbj> nein 18:12 < _matt_> nein 18:12 < BleuLlama> no 18:12 < BleuLlama> #ipodlinux.de for german 18:12 < Thunder_3k1> there are only 3 users with me 18:14 < voldern> ok ^^ 18:14 < Sereroku> he's talking shit -.- 18:14 < Thunder_3k1> danke 18:14 < Sereroku> so 18:14 < Sereroku> i'll upload SauerkrautZilla now :] 18:15 < courtc> *sigh 18:16 < leachbj> i want klingonzilla! 18:16 -!- OLwork [~snak@81-232-87-195-no31.business.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:16 * courtc gets back to work on i18n before we have 30 *zillas 18:16 < Sereroku> we could do a france podzilla -> Frog-Zilla 18:16 < Sereroku> ^^ 18:17 < Thunder_3k1> LOL 18:17 < Sereroku> il8n? ^^ 18:17 < courtc> internationalization 18:17 < Sereroku> http://web14.server-koalition.de/ipodlinux/sauerkrautzilla 18:18 < Bi_noix> I do like frogs 18:19 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:19 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:19 < Sereroku> to eat? 18:20 < Thunder_3k1> i like brids 18:20 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:22 < voldern> At my last question i got a yes, but was it to me. I got lost because of all that german talk. 18:23 < courtc> standerd userland is fine. 18:23 < courtc> you will need to update podzilla though. 18:28 < voldern> ok 18:28 < voldern> Shuld i use the latest podzilla from here: http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ 18:29 < courtc> sure 18:34 < Bi_noix> Sereroku: yes 18:35 -!- Cippo [~Gusse@ti521110a080-2166.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:36 < Sereroku> bah 18:40 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:40 -!- Wamnix [~linux@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:43 < Bi_noix> :) 18:49 < voldern> Wee linux on my 4G ipod, thank guys! 18:51 -!- voldern [~voldern@ti500720a080-8249.bb.online.no] has quit ["leaving"] 18:56 < Sereroku> lol 19:03 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:03 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc80f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:03 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:04 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:07 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc80f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:11 -!- _matt_ [~matt@host-84-9-102-34.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:17 < Thunder_3k1> hello 19:18 -!- mitch48632 [~apocalyps@cp183969-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@adsl-69-155-230-102.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:24 -!- smacmac_ [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:25 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:26 -!- mitch48632 [~apocalyps@cp183969-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 19:28 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:34 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:40 -!- colin_ [~colin@6400b2.hutchtel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-154-39-238.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:42 -!- colin_ [~colin@6400b2.hutchtel.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 19:45 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 19:47 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:49 < wendt> is jay711 on right now under a different name? 19:50 < wendt> i guess not... 19:52 < haunted_i> Come with me if you want to live 19:54 < wendt> who is that directed at? 19:54 < haunted_i> lol 19:54 * haunted_i just wanted to say it 19:55 < wendt> roflmfao... not. 19:57 < wendt> has anyone seen jay711 here recently? 19:57 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-217-10-221.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Fc80f.f.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:05 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 20:07 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@80.60.8.209] has quit ["doei"] 20:12 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 -!- Troy^ [pb@CPE0050bac211e1-CM014260047635.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit ["I quit because i felt like it; alright?"] 20:17 -!- jonrelay [~jonrelay@adsl-69-109-244-247.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 -!- ewise [~chatzilla@dsl-207-112-86-212.tor.primus.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 20:21 < ewise> got a 3g 40gig ipod, getting podzilla respawning, attempt to access beyond end of disk 20:21 < ewise> is my partition table screwed? 20:22 -!- Thunder_3k1 [~Thunder_3@p5498DF17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["CU All"] 20:22 < jonrelay> make sure podzilla is marked executable 20:22 < ewise> thanks, done that, double checked it 20:23 < ewise> it also says that bin/inetd is respawning too fast 20:24 < ewise> just sitting there draining the battery, but it was nice to see tux 20:24 < jonrelay> reset it, then try reinstalling linux 20:26 < ewise> so, redo the partition table, ie restore it from the backup, then recreate 1 and 3. 20:27 < ewise> that's what somebody i found in the forums did. 20:27 < jonrelay> You don't need to redo all the partitioning, just the part where you copy the files onto there. 20:28 < ewise> i already did that, starting with an fdisk and delete of partition 3 user land, mke2fs -j, etc etc. 20:28 < jonrelay> Although you could if you wanted to make really sure. 20:43 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-153-191-5.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Client exiting"] 20:43 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-153-191-5.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 20:44 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 20:46 -!- xandos [~xandos@cpe-24-194-138-150.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:46 < xandos> wtf is this about x86 macs? 20:49 < aegray> apple going with intel chips 20:49 < aegray> read slashdot 20:49 < Bi_noix> :'( 20:49 < xandos> yeah, thats what i read 20:49 < xandos> i really don't want to belive it though. 20:50 < Bi_noix> at least I'll own one of the fastests PPC Macs for a while... 20:50 < xandos> so i shouldn't buy a new mac now, huh? 20:50 < Bi_noix> why not ? 20:50 < Bi_noix> it's better now than in one year 20:50 -!- Oliverro [~Oliverro@175.125.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 < Oliverro> hello 20:51 < xandos> i guess 20:51 < xandos> hi 20:51 < Oliverro> i'm trying to see a video on my ipod but it says : loading video and after 2 min... nothing 20:51 < Bi_noix> a new mac bought now would last 2 years easily... 20:51 < xandos> i'm worried about software 20:51 < OLwork> You think Mac with Intel's will be the first Palladium-platform out there? 20:52 < OLwork> The thought almost makes me puke, no kidding 20:52 < Bi_noix> :X 20:52 < aegray> oliverro you didn't install a kernel with video support probably 20:52 < Oliverro> i just make a cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co -d podzilla tools/podzilla 20:52 < Oliverro> in my project 20:53 < Oliverro> and compiled it 20:53 < aegray> you have to update the kernel too 20:54 < Oliverro> how? 20:54 < xandos> why isn't this mentioned on apple's site? or is it and i've missed it? 20:54 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player 20:54 < OLwork> xandos: developer.apple.com 20:54 < OLwork> Of course they won't mention the DRM-crippling 20:54 < aegray> whats that? 20:54 < OLwork> They'll sneak it in, that's the whole idea! 20:55 < OLwork> http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,67749,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 20:56 < aegray> shit 20:56 < xandos> i am not a fan of this, but oh well. 20:58 -!- thick_ [~thick@d5-234.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 -!- theq [~theq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #iPodLinux 20:58 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 20:59 -!- xandos is now known as xandos|away 20:59 -!- Oliverro [~Oliverro@175.125.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:59 -!- OLwork [~snak@81-232-87-195-no31.business.telia.com] has quit [] 21:04 -!- Tonkajds [~jesse@c-67-162-65-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 < joshk> grar 21:10 < aegray> hi 21:11 < theq> hi every-body 21:11 < jonrelay> Hi! 21:11 < theq> i have a couple Q's 21:11 < theq> :P 21:11 < aegray> Q's? 21:11 < aegray> ask away 21:11 < theq> quations 21:11 < theq> sorry about my spelling 21:11 < aegray> its like questions and quotations 21:11 < theq> I'm 12 21:11 < aegray> so am i! 21:11 < theq> sweet 21:11 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.150.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < theq> ok so i have an ipod 21:12 < theq> and i want linux on it 21:12 < theq> but... 21:12 < theq> i em on freebsd 21:12 < theq> so how would i go about it exactly 21:12 < theq> ? 21:13 < aegray> use linux directions i think 21:13 < theq> is it possible 21:13 < theq> ok 21:13 < theq> thanx 21:13 < theq> and 21:13 < aegray> yep 21:13 < theq> ... 21:13 * theq is thinking 21:13 < theq> oh 21:14 -!- ewise [~chatzilla@dsl-207-112-86-212.tor.primus.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:14 < theq> when linux is installed on my ipod 21:14 < theq> does my ipod act like a portible hard drive 21:14 < aegray> ipod is a portable hard drive 21:14 < aegray> but you'd have to reset it 21:14 < aegray> with the right key combo 21:14 < aegray> to get it into disk mode 21:14 < theq> like do i orginize my music in like folders 21:15 < aegray> you can still use itunes 21:15 < theq> yah 21:15 < theq> with the mac os 21:15 * theq wonders what key combo? 21:15 < BleuLlama> as long as you don't move your music on it 21:15 < aegray> what gen ipod? 21:16 < theq> oh 21:16 < BleuLlama> (leave it in the ipod_control directory) 21:16 < theq> ahhhhh 21:16 < theq> thanks 21:16 < BleuLlama> podzilla can access stuff through the itunesdb 21:16 < BleuLlama> and obviously, things like .ogg and .mod aren't in there. so use the file browser, etc. 21:16 < theq> but is it like folders with in folders 21:17 < BleuLlama> look at it. you'll see 21:17 < aegray> they have F00-F19 and a hashing system 21:17 < theq> cuz that really bugged me on my ipod that i cant orginize my music like in folders 21:17 < BleuLlama> filenames are somewhat preserved though. 21:17 < theq> :( 21:17 < jonrelay> F00-F49 on mine 21:18 < aegray> wow 21:18 < BleuLlama> then get a different player. you're not supposed to look at the files, you're supposed to use the database interface. 21:18 < theq> thanx you guys 21:18 < theq> L) 21:18 < theq> :) 21:18 < theq> woops 21:18 * theq is off to install 21:19 < theq> one more Q 21:19 < courtc> one more A 21:19 < theq> when is dune gowing to be ready for ipod 21:19 < theq> ? 21:19 < aegray> dune? 21:19 < theq> anyone who works on it here 21:19 < aegray> doom? 21:19 < theq> yah 21:20 < theq> sorry 21:20 < BleuLlama> never ask a dev when anything will be ready 21:20 < theq> hehe 21:20 < aegray> becuase it makes it take longer 21:20 < theq> yah 21:20 < BleuLlama> at this point, doom has been delayed to november. 21:20 < aegray> i was trying it but i will now purposely stop working on it 21:20 < salgado> so, the only reason for not having ogg/mod in the iTunesDB is because no program support generating ogg entries in the iTunesDB or is there any other problem? 21:21 < aegray> we need a countdown calander with ghost entries to say when it used to be planned for and when its moved back to now 21:21 < BleuLlama> because if those file references are in there, and you sync back up with itunes, things could get screwed up 21:21 < theq> i am a blender freak so i get the same anser when i ask that kind of stuff 21:21 < theq> :P 21:21 < jonrelay> iTunes doesn't support ogg's or mod's. That's why. 21:21 < theq> bye all 21:21 < aegray> bye 21:21 < BleuLlama> itunes might look at it, think its corrupt and wipe it on you, etc. 21:22 < salgado> BleuLlama, but if I patch gtkpod to add ogg files to the ipod and write the correct entries in iTunesDB, it should work, no? 21:22 < aegray> just for gtkpod 21:23 < aegray> if you ever took it to itunes - yuck 21:23 < salgado> yeah, *I* don't care about iTunes. :) 21:23 < BleuLlama> dunno. i don't think the hooks are in place for it in podzilla. and the first time someone tries to sync it with itunes, and loses all of their music, they'll complain to us. 21:23 < thick_> aegray - what are the possibilies of a visualizer for the iPods? If there is video support on the Photo, is a visualizer an 21:23 < BleuLlama> yeah, well, *i* do. 21:23 < salgado> maybe if I do this, I'd be the only one using it. but I really want to see all my music files in the same library 21:24 < thick_> *easy* addition? 21:24 < aegray> not easy - but possible. but theres other more important stuff to work on like getting music working great in the first place 21:24 < BleuLlama> exactly 21:24 -!- jzhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.150.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 < courtc> load up an itunesdb with ogg in the apple fw? ugh. 21:25 < salgado> I could also hack podzilla so it reads another database, with the ogg files only 21:25 < thick_> aegray - very understandable. Just thinking about a future addition. Thanks again for everything. 21:25 < BleuLlama> yeah. who knows how apple firmware would deal with it too. i imagine it would crash it... 21:25 < BleuLlama> since the ipod assumes the db is golden, generated only by itunes 21:25 < salgado> iTunes would never know about this database. the problem is the dbid thing, that I'd have to keep in sync between both databases 21:26 < courtc> salgado, don't warry about it for the moment, we'll have a database munger soon enough.. 21:26 < aegray> mpd mpd! 21:26 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has quit [Client Quit] 21:26 < courtc> :) 21:26 < salgado> courtc, database munger? what's it? 21:27 < aegray> something to handle both databases 21:27 < aegray> and make it look transparent to user 21:27 < courtc> including drag'n drop ability :) 21:27 < aegray> yay! 21:27 -!- MikeRS [1000@67.183.244.114] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 < BleuLlama> boo. that's not the linux way. that sounds way too easy. 21:28 < BleuLlama> ;) 21:28 < aegray> we'll make it so you have to program a shell script to move the file for you 21:28 < BleuLlama> YAY 21:28 < aegray> if mouse is used it will crash 21:28 < courtc> for linuxies we call it 'cp ability' 21:28 < BleuLlama> and i'll write an OS X app that generates the shell script for me 21:29 * BleuLlama afk 21:31 -!- coob [pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:38 -!- Fanfoue [~fanfoue@host81-153-241-101.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:38 < Fanfoue> hi 21:41 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.150.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:47 -!- tlg [~tlg@117-223.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 21:50 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-9-30.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 21:51 < Luke> hey all 21:52 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #iPodLinux 21:58 -!- Faulteh [~Faulteh@ppp114-103.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 < jonrelay> Is it usually this quiet? 22:02 -!- dsh-1 [~daishi@pool-162-83-250-121.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < aegray> yes - Luke did a mode +q on most of the people in here 22:03 -!- zhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.51.7.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:07 -!- salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:09 -!- psilocyibn [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 -!- Fanfoue [~fanfoue@host81-153-241-101.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:09 < psilocyibn> sup 22:11 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 22:12 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@adsl-69-155-230-102.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has quit ["Apple users are like Marines; a small, elite group with the most sophisticated technology"] 22:12 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:12 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:15 -!- coob [pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:16 < davidc__> aegray - did he really? 22:16 -!- jzhixel [josh@dialup-4.248.50.150.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:16 < aegray> hes crazy with power 22:16 < aegray> someone needs to stop hime 22:16 < aegray> (no) 22:17 -!- carote [~carote@CPE-144-133-196-60.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:17 < davidc__> aegray: well, knowing luke, its completely plausible. :P 22:17 < aegray> hah 22:17 < Daishi> i see a sound.c near video.c is there sound now? 22:18 < Daishi> erm audio.c 22:18 < aegray> yes 22:18 < aegray> oh wait 22:18 < aegray> for video or in general? 22:18 < Daishi> video 22:18 < davidc__> no. 22:18 < aegray> not yet 22:18 < davidc__> audio.c contains the kernel audio drivers. 22:19 < davidc__> I assume you're talking about the one in mach-ipod? 22:19 < Daishi> ye 22:19 < Daishi> a 22:19 < aegray> thats audio.c for regular audio 22:19 < aegray> any audio code will probably be in podzilla 22:19 -!- crashd [nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has quit ["leaving"] 22:19 < Daishi> anyways im going to look at how mplayer does its rgb and bgr encoding try and hack up a brg one 22:20 < aegray> i have some code if you want that 22:20 < leachbj> how about a bfg one? 22:20 < Daishi> oo 22:20 < Daishi> cool 22:20 < aegray> bfg? 22:20 < aegray> brg? 22:20 < Daishi> big friendly giant? 22:20 -!- crashd [nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 22:20 < leachbj> doom 22:20 < Daishi> oo 22:20 -!- crashd [nobody@badger.ing.me.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 < Daishi> the gun 22:20 < leachbj> bfg9000 ;) 22:23 < courtc> Translator? any language is fine 22:23 < psilocyibn> what up aegray 22:23 < aegray> hi 22:23 -!- psilocyibn [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has quit [] 22:26 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26 < thick_> I miss the BFG9000, and my iddqd and idkfa modes. I want to be god 22:27 < leachbj> idkfa... there's something I haven't done in a while! 22:28 < courtc> idspispopd ;) 22:29 < leachbj> better get typing support in podzilla for when doom is ported ;) 22:30 < coob> iddqd :)_ 22:30 < coob> courtc was that no clipping? 22:30 < courtc> yup 22:32 < courtc> speaking of translating, who wants to? 22:33 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-131-136-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:33 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-221-134.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:34 -!- Izz^ [~Si@83-216-152-176.sibrin369.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:39 -!- awake`zzz [~offline@c211-30-199-28.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 22:39 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:41 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 22:42 < MikeRS> I've got a second album that does that black-out text <_< 22:42 < MikeRS> The Chase by Garth Brooks.... seems like if a song has parenthesis, the next set of the list gets buggered up 22:43 < MikeRS> at least, that's most I can infer 22:45 -!- sleep`zzz [~offline@c211-30-199-28.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:45 < jonrelay> Songs with parentheses don't do anything weird on my iPod. 22:45 < MikeRS> what gen are you doing it on? 22:46 < courtc> there should be no reason that a string would mess up another. 22:46 < jonrelay> Me? 3g 22:46 < MikeRS> yeah... but I'm going to test it by removing the parens 22:48 < MikeRS> no, having them gone doesn't make a difference 22:48 < MikeRS> so I'm out of ideas ._. 22:48 < aegray> you give up too easy 22:49 < MikeRS> and jonrelay, I'm on a 4g, so it may be specific to that 22:49 < MikeRS> and probably 22:49 < MikeRS> but I can't think of any other similarities between the two albums that makes the problem specific to them 22:49 < aegray> both suck? 22:49 -!- linkmark [~linkmark@212.239.163.45] has joined #ipodlinux 22:49 < aegray> oh jk 22:49 < MikeRS> does it have problems with large databases? 22:50 < MikeRS> there's about 10GB of music on it 22:52 < MikeRS> dammit apple ._. why can't your OS remember the clicker setting? 22:58 -!- Wengero [~wengero@modemcable113.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ipodlinux 23:02 -!- Cam_ [~MrC@cpe-66-108-4-24.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:03 < Cam_> the wiki files explaining how to build podzilla for the desktop is obsolete....could someone explain what i need to do to build podzilla on os x? 23:04 -!- joecool|sleep is now known as joecool 23:06 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-dc5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Yikes"] 23:14 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:14 -!- xandos|away is now known as xandos 23:16 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:17 -!- xandos [~xandos@cpe-24-194-138-150.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 23:17 -!- TheDingo [~dingo@12-214-189-55.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:22 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 23:23 < aegray> power rage is over 23:23 < aegray> (tehe) 23:24 -!- Wengero [~wengero@modemcable113.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 23:36 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Home finally"] 23:45 < Daishi> alright it seems that no matter what combination of colors rgb, rbg, gbr. grb, bgr, brg the video comes out all psychadelic 23:45 < jonrelay> Maybe there's an alpha channel we're not considering? 23:46 < Daishi> bgr seems to be the closest 23:47 < Daishi> and brg 23:47 < Daishi> seems that b is the right color 23:47 < Daishi> g and r however dont seem to be 23:47 < Daishi> odd 23:48 < courtc> cymk ;) 23:48 < Daishi> you think the ipod is in cmyk? 23:48 < jonrelay> Maybe r and g are at different positions than we're used to. 23:48 < Daishi> could be 23:49 < courtc> haha what? 23:49 < Daishi> i have no idea though really 23:50 < Daishi> all i know is that b?? plays color closest to the original 23:51 < jonrelay> Try to isolate each channel individually. 23:51 -!- linkmark [~linkmark@212.239.163.45] has quit [Client Quit] 23:52 < jonrelay> If only I had an iPod photo. :P 23:53 < Daishi> isolate individually? 23:54 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 23:55 < coob> why would there be an alpha channel on an lcd 23:55 < jonrelay> Try to get a screen of all red, all green, all blue, all yellow, all cyan... 23:55 < coob> it may be big endian instead of little endian, though that makes no sense. 23:55 < jonrelay> Well, it wouldn't be *used* for anything. It would just be a blank spot. 23:55 < jonrelay> (the alpha channel) 23:56 < courtc> err... 23:57 < Daishi> oo and btw thats when i change the channels from rgb > bgr and brg 23:57 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:58 < jonrelay> How wide is each channel? 8 bits? 23:58 < coob> 565 23:59 < courtc> (or 555) 23:59 < jonrelay> I see. So there wouldn't be an alpha channel. Nevermind then. --- Log closed Tue Jun 07 00:00:00 2005