--- Log opened Mon Jun 06 00:00:02 2005
00:00 < aegray> be back
00:00 < joshk> i suppose ldr r2, [r2] == dereference r2 and stick the answer back into r2?
00:00 < aegray> yea
00:00 < joshk> if it's anything like sparc asm..
00:00 < joshk> k
00:00 < Daishi> alright now if video is messed up in what colors go where cant i make a video with the colors messed up on purpose and thus counteract the messing up?
00:00 < aegray> yes
00:01 < aegray> rgb -> brg i think
00:01 < coob> hey there's a point
00:01 < Daishi> i was already encoding with brg16
00:01 < coob> you could try creating a brg video
00:01 < aegray> brg
00:01 < aegray> haha
00:01 < Daishi> oo
00:01 < aegray> you would have to write a converter
00:01 < Daishi> erm bgr
00:01 < coob> doesn't mencoder do it?
00:01 < aegray> i have some code to do that
00:01 < aegray> brg?
00:01 < aegray> bgr it has
00:01 < aegray> not brg
00:02 < aegray> dinner time
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00:03 < coob> haha
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00:07 < davidc__> yea sure.
00:07 < MikeRS> hmm... the mp3 player doesn't seem to support all mp3s, particularly this mono and low-quality one (from the Internet! :P)
00:07 < MikeRS> Playing MPEG stream from every-sp.mp3 ...
00:07 < MikeRS> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 8 kbit/s, 11025 Hz mono
00:08 < davidc__> yeah, I think we hard coded 44100
00:08 < MikeRS> oh..
00:08 < MikeRS> well, luckily almost every mp3 on here is ripped at that :p
00:09 < davidc__> ?!?!
00:09 < davidc__> that would most likeley sound like ass
00:09 < davidc__> I can't even stand 22050
00:09 < Daishi> he meant 44100
00:09 < courtc> he meant 44100
00:09 < courtc> whoa
00:09 < Daishi> jinx
00:09 < Daishi> buy me a coke
00:10 < Daishi> ive never done that on irc before
00:10 < Daishi> that was amazing
00:10 < courtc> yea, a little weird
00:10 < joshk> ok
00:10 < courtc> get out of my head!
00:10 < joshk> i think i mighta done it :p
00:10 < joshk> outl(inl(0x70000010) & ~0xc, 0x70000010);
00:10 < joshk> ==
00:10 < Daishi> ?
00:10 < coob> you both forgot your ' too, weirdos.
00:10 < joshk>     mov r5, #0x70000010
00:10 < joshk>     ldr r5, [r5]
00:10 < joshk>     bic r5, r5, #0xc
00:10 < joshk>     mov r6, #0x70000010
00:10 < joshk>     str r6, [r5]
00:11 < Daishi> '?
00:11 < Daishi> where did i need a '?
00:11 < joshk> did i translate that C into assembly adequately?
00:11 < Daishi> i cant comprehend so you must have
00:12 < davidc__> that looks pretty good
00:12 < davidc__> er, except you got the last str backwards
00:12 < davidc__> should be str r5, [r6]
00:12 < joshk> the address to store in is in r5, though
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00:12 < joshk> and r6 is what i want to move into it
00:12 < davidc__> no, its in r6
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00:12 < joshk> oh
00:13 < davidc__> umm, the instruction str instruction takes the first argument
00:13 < joshk> right, i read the define for outl wrong
00:13 < joshk> never mind, i get it :)
00:13 < davidc__> nm, you got it
00:13 < davidc__> heh.
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00:13 < Pklgnome> so was the problem with recording fixed by the june 4 build>
00:13 < Pklgnome> *?
00:14 < davidc__> what is that outl thing supposed to do anyways?
00:14 < joshk> davidc__: access arbitrary locations in memory
00:14 < joshk> dereference and assign
00:15 < davidc__> nono, I know that
00:15 < joshk> oh
00:15 < davidc__> but what is that line overall supposed to do.
00:15 < davidc__> it clears two bits
00:15 < joshk> it's ipod_beep() in podzilla
00:15 < davidc__> I know that much
00:15 < davidc__> ah, so what exactly are you trying to do?
00:15 < davidc__> make it beep?
00:15 < joshk> yes, trying to figure out where my mini 2g hangs
00:15 < aegray> joshc - you cant mov an address like that
00:15 < joshk> either it looks like it doesn't get to loader() at all, or ipod_beep() is invalid for the mini 2g
00:16 < aegray> you have to ldr an address like that
00:16 < aegray> mov r5, #0x70000010
00:16 < aegray> should not work
00:16 < aegray> you have to have either
00:16 < aegray> mov r5, #0x70000000
00:16 < aegray> add r5, #0x10
00:16 < joshk> oh
00:16 < joshk> why's it like that?
00:16 < aegray> the way it loads addresses
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00:18 < Pklgnome> can anyone answer my question?
00:18 < Pklgnome> plz :)
00:18 < aegray> i don't think so
00:18 < davidc__> oh right... yeah, its a 32 bit constant.. you can't do that
00:18 < aegray> they're still working on recording
00:18 < Pklgnome> it wasn't fixed?
00:18 < aegray> not yet i don't think
00:18 < aegray> i think it hangs
00:18 < davidc__> Pklgnome: was what fixed?
00:18 < Pklgnome> aargh
00:18 < aegray> the recording
00:18 < Pklgnome> the problem with recording
00:18 < aegray> on 4g
00:18 < Pklgnome> no
00:18 < Pklgnome> on 3g
00:18 < Pklgnome> the gain sucks
00:19 < aegray> oh i dunno
00:19 < Pklgnome> it's been fixed in a nightly
00:19 < Pklgnome> but i'm using the gui installer
00:19 < aegray> you can install a nightly with gui installer
00:19 < Pklgnome> how?
00:20 < aegray> copy linux.bin and podzilla to the installer dir (overwrite the originals)
00:20 < aegray> then install
00:20 < aegray> with updates unchecked
00:20 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds
00:20 < joshk> ok
00:20 < joshk> http://rafb.net/paste/results/cLph7W60.html
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00:20 < joshk> aegray: take a look?
00:20 < aegray> sure
00:21 < Pklgnome> do i have to compile linux.bin and podzilla?
00:21 < aegray> just download them from that url
00:21 < joshk> oops
00:21 < joshk> or is orr
00:21 < aegray> orr
00:21 < aegray> i know
00:21 < aegray> but...
00:22 < aegray> if you want to load an address like 6000600c
00:22 < aegray> its
00:22 < aegray> mov r4, #0x60000000
00:22 < aegray> add r4, #0x6000
00:22 < aegray> add r4, #0x0c
00:22 < aegray> or easier
00:22 < aegray> (hold on lemme find it)
00:22 < davidc__> or just use a constant pool
00:22 < davidc__> and load from the offset
00:22 < aegray> thats what i was showin
00:22 < joshk> with .equ?
00:23 < Pklgnome> what installer directory?
00:23 < aegray> which ones do you have?
00:23 < Pklgnome> i don't
00:23 < Pklgnome> do i need to have a directory for iPodLinux alone>
00:23 < aegray> theres no directory
00:23 < aegray> ugh - wheres your installer
00:23 < joshk> aegray: does bic r5, r5, #0xc have the same problem that you addressed?
00:23 < joshk> don't think so
00:24 < joshk> right?
00:24 < aegray> i don't think so
00:24 < aegray> never used it
00:24 < aegray> so i dunno
00:24 < joshk> well, thel ines above involve
00:24 < Pklgnome> i've got it in /Users/<me>/Applications
00:24 < joshk>     ldr r0, [r0]
00:24 < joshk>     and r0, r0, #0xff
00:24 < joshk>     cmp r0, #0x55
00:24 < joshk> so i assume it's meant to work
00:24 < joshk> (that's iPL code)
00:24 < Pklgnome> it's an application
00:24 < Pklgnome> that's all there is
00:25 < aegray> pkl: do you see a linux.bin in there
00:25 < aegray> ?
00:25 < Pklgnome> no
00:25 < aegray> what does the lines above involv mean?
00:25 < aegray> find linux.bin
00:26 < aegray> joshk: what did you mean by the lines above involve?
00:26 < Pklgnome> doesn't exist, aegray
00:26 < joshk> aegray: this is startup.s in tools/ipodloader
00:26 < joshk> so i was looking at the existing code
00:26 < aegray> its not on your compter anywhere
00:26 < joshk> which used and in the same way i was
00:26 < aegray> then you don't actually have the installer
00:26 < joshk> so i assume it works
00:27 < Pklgnome> nope
00:27 < aegray> it should be in there somewhere
00:27 < Pklgnome> i'm on a macintosh
00:27 < aegray> hmm - dunno then - go on the video player page and see instructions there
00:27 < Pklgnome> don't know if that makes a big difference
00:27 < aegray> ah
00:27 < aegray> ok
00:27 < aegray> well try compiling it
00:27 < aegray> see if it compiles at least
00:28 < Pklgnome> aargh
00:28 < aegray> goto the video player page
00:28 < aegray> ->read
00:28 < Pklgnome> video player page>
00:28 < Pklgnome> ?
00:28 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player
00:28 < aegray> it has instructions for how to use a new podzilla and linux.bin with the gui
00:28 < joshk> .equ    PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE, 0x70000010
00:28 < joshk> mov r4, #PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE
00:28 < joshk> ^ ok?
00:28 < Daishi> hrm
00:29 < aegray> ldr r4, =PIEZO_ENABLE_ONE
00:29 < Daishi> why is compiling a million and one things so easy and downgrading firmware so hard
00:29 < Pklgnome> oh
00:29 < Pklgnome> duh
00:29 < Daishi> and my ipod claims its 1.0
00:29 < Pklgnome> i have to show the package contents
00:29 < joshk> aegray: got it
00:29 < aegray> Daishi
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00:30 < joshk> oh shit, gotta remember how to write a for loop in asm :p
00:30 < Daishi> ?
00:30 < Daishi> aegray
00:30 < aegray> sorry
00:30 < aegray> i privated you
00:30 < aegray> but my idea was shot
00:30 < aegray> i thought i had something that would work
00:30 < aegray> but it won't
00:31 < aegray> loop not too hard
00:31 < joshk> yeah
00:31 < joshk> nearly done
00:34 < joshk> do i need a nop after a branch statement like on sparc/
00:34 < aegray> not sure
00:34 < aegray> can't hurt
00:34 < joshk> looks like no, given the existing code
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00:36 < joshk> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HNhsYh86.html
00:36 < joshk> ok
00:37 < joshk> shit
00:37 < joshk> missing a # on 0x1
00:37 < aegray> hold on
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00:42 < aegray> looks pretty good
00:43 < joshk> hrm
00:43 < aegray> whats wrong
00:43 < joshk> you know, i probably could have just ran gcc -S on that code :p
00:43 < aegray> ahahaha
00:43 < aegray> its a learning experience
00:43 < joshk> yes
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00:47 < joshk> ah, basicaly looks the same :)
00:47 < aegray> good work then
00:47 < joshk> minus the constants
00:47 < joshk> makes it a little harder to read
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00:49 < joshk>     cmp r5, #0x888
00:49 < joshk> says that #0x888 is an invalid constant
00:49 < aegray> ah
00:49 < aegray> mov r3, #0x800
00:49 < joshk> should i store that and load it like the other ones?
00:49 < aegray> yep
00:49 < aegray> add r3,
00:50 < aegray> blabla
00:50 < aegray> (isn't arm fun?)
00:51 < joshk> now i gotta change all the registers so i'm not stepping over iPL
00:51 < aegray> no you don't
00:51 < aegray> stmdb sp!, {r0-r8}
00:51 < aegray> ldmia sp!, {r0-r8}
00:51 < aegray> before and after your function
00:51 < joshk> beginning and end?
00:51 < aegray> yea
00:51 < joshk> k
00:52 < joshk> it compiled
00:52 < joshk> let's see if my ipod spontaneously combusts
00:53 < joshk> aegray: i see a lot of 'beq 1f' and 'beq 1b'
00:53 < joshk> and there are many labels named 1
00:53 < aegray> yea
00:53 < aegray> 1 forward
00:53 < aegray> 1 backward
00:53 < joshk> so beq 1f moves to the next label named 1?
00:53 < joshk> or just the next label
00:53 < aegray> yep
00:53 < aegray> next named 1 i think
00:54 < joshk> cause there's one before my code and it might jump into the loop and i don't want that
00:54 < joshk> k cool
00:54 < aegray> it might though - i'm not sure
00:54 < joshk> meh
00:59 < joshk> WHOA
00:59 < joshk> i think it worked
00:59  * joshk reboots
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00:59 < joshk> that's ridiculously cool
00:59 < joshk> first time i've ever done something like that
00:59 < aegray> nice
00:59 < aegray> it beeped?
00:59 < joshk> it just went 'click'
01:00 < joshk> is it supposed to actually beep?
01:00 < coob> <caam> rsbeq = coolest instruction name ever
01:00 < coob> :)
01:01 < davidc__> nah, it just clicks
01:01 < davidc__> the beep monicker is a relic from previous days.
01:01 < joshk> ok, cool
01:01 < joshk> then i did it!
01:01 < coob> joshk: nice work!
01:01 < joshk> davidc__: not a very long click, either?
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01:01 < davidc__> nope
01:01 < coob> joshk: its supposed to be like the click you get in the apple firmware...
01:01 < joshk> right, right
01:01 < joshk> wow. that's neat.
01:01 < joshk> time to move that hunk of code around
01:02 < aegray> can you have optional arguments in c?
01:02 < Pklgnome> yes
01:02 < aegray> how
01:02 < Pklgnome> but i forget how
01:02 < aegray> haha
01:02 < Pklgnome> :)
01:02 < coob> ...
01:03 < coob> http://wwwwbs.cs.tu-berlin.de/user-taipan/kraxel/gnuinfo/libc/Receiving_Arguments.html
01:03 < joshk> ok
01:03 < joshk> it doesn't get to init_bss
01:03 < aegray> find out where it fails
01:05 < coob> aegray: i think it's used in podzilla
01:05 < coob> for pz_error in message.c
01:06 < aegray> arg - don't want to deal with that hassle
01:06 < joshk> getting closer..
01:06 < aegray> just wanted the arg like function (int c = 1)
01:06 < aegray> so if its left out its set to 1
01:06 < coob> so then always call it with 1?
01:07 < aegray> yep
01:07 < Pklgnome> ok
01:07 < Pklgnome> so i'm replacing the podzilla in the gui installer with the nightly i just downloaded
01:08 < Pklgnome> does it need to be a .tar.gz , like the original? i would assume it does, but just in case...
01:08 < aegray> i guess
01:08 < aegray> i don't use mac
01:09 < coob> its just a .gz i think, no tar about it
01:09 < Wengero> oh crap
01:09 < Pklgnome> the file name is podzilla.tar.gz
01:09 < Pklgnome> i opened up the package
01:09 < Pklgnome> just downloaded, didn't change it
01:09 < coob> ah ok.
01:09 < Wengero> how do i quit podzilla
01:10 < Pklgnome> like, reboot into the apple firmware?
01:10 < Pklgnome> go to reboot ipod
01:10 < Wengero> dammit
01:10 < joshk> ok
01:10 < joshk> it looks like it gets lost here:
01:10 < Pklgnome> and then either hold down the reverse key (if linux is default) or do nothing (if it isn't)
01:10 < joshk>     ldr pc, =start_loc  /* jump to the next instruction in 0x4000xxxx */
01:10 < aegray> so it relocated the code
01:11 < Wengero> well
01:11 < aegray> but can't find the start address in iram
01:11 < joshk> wait let me double check
01:11 < Wengero> i fucked something up
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01:11 < Wengero> i guess the only way to turn it off now is kill the battery
01:11 < aegray> menu + select
01:11 < Wengero> doesnt work
01:11 < joshk> start_loc:
01:11 < joshk>     ldr r1, =__data_start__
01:11 < joshk>     ldr r3, =__bss_start__
01:11 < joshk>     cmp r0, r1
01:11 < joshk>     beq init_bss
01:11 < coob> hey
01:12 < coob> iram may be at a different location
01:12 < joshk> it would be okay if i put the beep code in before the first ldr, right?
01:12 < Pklgnome> try hard reboot
01:12 < Pklgnome> hold menu and play buttons
01:12 < coob> or maybe not, i dunno...
01:12 < aegray> is it getting to init_bss?
01:12 < aegray> thats what i was thinking
01:12 < aegray> wait
01:12 < coob> the 5022 has more iram than the pp5020
01:12 < aegray> is that the last location it gets to?
01:12 < aegray> or does it reach start_loc?
01:13 < joshk> i don't know, if i put the beep code before ldr r1, =__data_start__, it breaks
01:13 < joshk> so i sasume it doesn't get there
01:13 < aegray> ok
01:13 < aegray> so iram is the problem
01:14 < Wengero> pkignome: which play buttons?
01:14 < joshk> aegray: next step?
01:14 < Pklgnome> the inner one on the right
01:14 < Pklgnome> it has a triangle and to parallel vertical bars
01:14 < aegray> hmm
01:14 < aegray> it would be nice to have a dump of the bootloader
01:15 < aegray> menu + select is hard reboot
01:15 < aegray> oh wait 3g
01:15 < aegray> nevermind
01:15 < Wengero> i did menu sleect
01:15 < Wengero> i have 4g i use this guys guide
01:15 < Wengero> http://www.club60.dk/exdev/?p=20
01:15 < aegray> menu + select - hold down
01:15 < aegray> it works
01:15 < Pklgnome> ah
01:15 < Pklgnome> ok
01:16 < Wengero> any ideas?
01:16 < aegray> keep trying that
01:16 < aegray> is hold button on?
01:17 < Wengero> no
01:17 < Wengero> i hit the quit option and my ipod frozish
01:17 < aegray> and holding those down is doing nothing
01:17 < joshk> coob: next step? :P
01:18 < Wengero> my screen is all dark and filling with weird characters(i can only see them if i hold it up to a light)
01:18 < joshk> coob: i have the original apple firmware at hand, if it helps
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01:18 < coob> the useful bit will be encrypted
01:19 < Pklgnome> that's it booting into linux, Wengero
01:19 < coob> could try bruteforcing the location of iram maybe?
01:19 < coob> trying obious locations
01:19 < coob> 0x5000...
01:19 < aegray> bern has the bootloader code
01:19 < coob> 0x600.... etc
01:19 < aegray> so i would think he would have seen that
01:19 < Wengero> i cant boot anything
01:19 < Wengero> im stuck
01:19 < aegray> is the only thing
01:19 < coob> ah he does? he'd have spoted the iram moving surely :/
01:19 < aegray> its stuck with those characters
01:19 < aegray> ?
01:19 < Wengero> yes
01:20 < Wengero> im pretty sure they keep coming thou
01:20 < joshk> aegray: he has the bootloader code for 2g mini?
01:20 < aegray> if menu+action holding down for long time doesn't work to reset then i dunno
01:20 < joshk> hrm
01:20 < aegray> yes
01:20 < aegray> i think
01:20 < coob> joshk: its nice to finally find someone who knows what they're doing,... previous mini 2g testers have had... issues heh
01:20 < joshk> coob: i aim to please
01:20 < aegray> can you send me a dump of your firmware partition?
01:20 < joshk> yes
01:20 < aegray> (joshk)
01:20 < joshk> bzip2 ok?
01:20 < Wengero> yup the weird character keeps coming
01:21 < aegray> ugh
01:21 < joshk> wait
01:21 < Wengero> its not frozen
01:21 < aegray> i dunno
01:21 < Wengero> its just stuck
01:21 < joshk> apple firmware or the output from make_fw?
01:21 < aegray> is that tar xjf
01:21 < aegray> apple firmware
01:21 < joshk> it's bunzip2, since its just one file
01:21 < aegray> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=stuff
01:21 < Wengero> sould i just leave it on for like 2 days so the battery dies and see what happens?
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01:21 < aegray> ah
01:21 < aegray> ok
01:21 < aegray> whatever
01:21 < joecool> Wengero: no userspace.. sounds like the problem
01:21 < joshk> bzip2 compresses better, and it's pretty big
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01:21 < joshk> so... yeah. my dsl blows too :)
01:22 < aegray> if menu+select doesn't work then your hold switch sounds to be stuck
01:22 < aegray> ok
01:22 < aegray> i can use that
01:22 < joshk> bah it doesn't compress at all
01:22 < aegray> haha
01:22  * Wengero cries
01:22 < aegray> brb - urine
01:22 < joshk> TMI
01:22  * Wengero wants his ipod back
01:22 < coob> ew.
01:22 < joecool> joshk: what are you attempting to compress?
01:23 < joshk> joecool: my apple firmware partition
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01:23 < aegray> back
01:23 < joecool> joshk:  hmm.. i don't remember if that compressed well (i know a full image of the drive did.. to an extant)
01:24 < joshk> joecool: it compressed about 10MB worth
01:24 < aegray> how big is it?
01:24 < joshk> 40M uncompressed
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01:24 < joecool> should have been like 40megs arou
01:24 < joecool> n
01:24 < joecool> d
01:24 < joecool> ugh
01:24 < joshk> heh
01:24 < coob> sounds about right...
01:25 < coob> as most of it will be random
01:25 < aegray> IDA loves it though
01:25 < coob> as apple only use the first 10 meg or so of the parition
01:25 < groove10> hey I have a question for you guys, not directly related to the iPod, but in the same realm
01:25 < aegray> k
01:25 < groove10> I'd like to set up a "media center" type box in my house
01:26 < groove10> basically a jukebox with web interface
01:26 < groove10> the music would reside on the local drives as well as across Samba shares
01:27 < aegray> wow first time dcc recv ever worked for me
01:27 < groove10> are there some pieces of software that can do this for me, and if so what do you recommend
01:27 < courtc> join #mpd
01:28 < coob> groove10: http://musicpd.org/
01:28 < groove10> I was thinking setting up a web controlled streaming app and them use some media player to simply play the stream locally
01:29 < MikeRS> well, iPod_firmware does well in both gzip and bzip2 <_<
01:29 < MikeRS> 6.2M 2005-04-24 15:41 iPod_firmware.gz
01:29 < MikeRS> 5.8M 2005-04-24 15:41 iPod_firmware.bz2
01:29 < joshk> really?
01:29 < joshk> it was worthless fo rme
01:29 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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01:29 < joshk> how big was it originallyu?
01:29 < MikeRS> 40MB
01:29 < joshk> weird
01:29 < MikeRS> It's from a 4G 20GB iPod
01:30 < groove10> coob: thx
01:30 < joshk> the mini firmware must be some crazy ass shit then
01:30 < groove10> that's pretty much exactly what I was looking for... plus there's already some web front-ends written for it
01:30 < davidc__> yeah, I use it /w a webbased frontent
01:30 < davidc__> phpmp2 is horribly broken
01:30 < davidc__> but phpmp is great
01:32 < joshk> aegray: why'd you cancel?
01:32 < aegray> i didn't
01:32 < aegray> it aborted on its own
01:32 < aegray> damn thing
01:32 < joshk> are you using mIRC or something :P
01:32 < aegray> xchat
01:32 < joshk> heh
01:32 < aegray> shit internet though
01:32 < joshk> got an ftp server or something?
01:32 < joshk> hrm
01:32 < aegray> hold on
01:33 < joecool> anything sent to me.. i'll host
01:33 < coob> ditto...
01:34 < aegray> and theres our answer
01:35 < joshk> joecool: it's not 100% legal, though .. heh
01:35 < joshk> and there are some in here that feel doing such a thing is a bit sketch :p
01:35 < joecool> i really don't care.. i already have the photo firmware up
01:35 < joshk> ok
01:35 < joshk> how shall i send it to you
01:35 < joecool> dcc it, and i'll scp it up
01:36 < joshk> k
01:36 < MikeRS> and there has to be a way to extract the firmware from Apple's update programs >_>
01:36 < davidc__> there is
01:36 < MikeRS> I wouldn't know how though
01:36 < davidc__> but its slightly different then the one we want
01:36 < MikeRS> ph
01:36 < MikeRS> oh*
01:36 < joecool> joshk: if its urgent and you don't feel like waiting a half hour.. i have other.. faster means
01:36 < davidc__> it contains settings to reflash the ipo
01:37 < joshk> joecool: i'm maxing out my dsl upstream here
01:37 < davidc__> joecool joshk -no warez talk in the channel
01:37 < joshk> how could it go faster?
01:37 < davidc__> take it somewhere else
01:37 < joshk> k
01:37 < aegray> this isn't warez is it?
01:37 < aegray> i'm trying to get a dump of his firmware to look at in ida
01:37 < coob> yes.
01:38 < davidc__> well, by warez I mean the trade in apple firmware image.
01:38 < aegray> ok nm then
01:38 < davidc__> just don't do it in the channel
01:38 < aegray> k
01:38 < joshk> aegray: i dunno, are you gonna be around for the next half hour? :)
01:38 < aegray> yes
01:39 < joshk> ok then
01:39 < joecool> joshk: well.. my dsl upstream from here to my server is not good to say the least :P, would be better to get on a high-speed shell, and send it to the server
01:39 < joecool> but this will do :P
01:41 < Wengero> hey
01:45 < Pklgnome> aargh
01:45 < Pklgnome> i can't compress the podzilla file as a .tar.gx
01:45 < Pklgnome> *.tar.gz
01:45 < joecool> umm why would you?
01:45 < joecool> 1 file.. just compress it, no need to tar
01:45 < joecool> gzip filename
01:45 < joecool> or bzip2 filename
01:45 < Pklgnome> because it has to be in that format for it to work in the ipodlinux gui installer
01:46 < joecool> ok then
01:46 < joecool> use
01:46 < joecool> tar -cvzf podzilla.tar.gz *
01:46 < joecool> or rather
01:46 < joecool> tar -cvzf podzilla.tar.gz podzilla
01:49 < Pklgnome> ha ha
01:49 < Pklgnome> thanks
01:51 < joecool> np
01:54 < Pklgnome> ok
01:54 < Pklgnome> i just installed the june 5 nightly
01:54 < Pklgnome> the gain on the recording still sucks
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01:56 < Pklgnome> i thought that was fixed in a nightly
01:56 < Pklgnome> a while ago
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01:59 < Wengero> hey ummm
01:59 < Wengero> any more ideas for me or am i screwed?
01:59 < Pklgnome> about what?
02:00 < aegray> take it to best buy
02:00 < Wengero> i bought it off apple website
02:00 < Pklgnome> what is the problem, again?
02:00 < davidc__> which ipod is it?
02:01 < Wengero> photo
02:01 < Wengero> i used this guide http://www.club60.dk/exdev/?p=20... everything looked good
02:01 < davidc__> you've tried pressing play+ center button righjt?
02:01 < davidc__> and holding them for ~ 10 seconds?
02:01 -!- Vanquisher|Away is now known as Vanquisher
02:01 < davidc__> with the hold switch off?
02:01 < Wengero> linux was running but then i when to reboot and nothing happend, then i went to quit and my screen filled with a weird character
02:02 < Wengero> hold switch is off and i held those buttons
02:02 < Wengero> omg
02:02 < Wengero> something happening now
02:02 < davidc__> apple logo?
02:02 < Wengero> ytes
02:02 < Wengero> im back in podzilla
02:02 < davidc__> ok
02:02 < davidc__> there ya go
02:02 < davidc__> its working now
02:02 < Wengero> that was really weird i dont know what fixed it
02:02 < davidc__> holding the buttons for long enough :P
02:03 < Wengero> i did that already
02:03 < davidc__> well, it worked this time didn't it :P
02:03 < davidc__> Its in hardware, so its pretty damn hard to break.
02:04 < davidc__> anyways just hold rewind after rebooting to get into apple firmware
02:04 < Wengero> okay just so i dont fuck it up again... whats the best way to go back to apple
02:04 < Pklgnome> so was the recording bug fixed in a nightly, or not?
02:05 < courtc> There's no tracker for a recording bug.
02:06 < davidc__> Wengero: permanently
02:06 < Wengero> no
02:06 < davidc__> or just to switch between?
02:06 < Wengero> ya
02:06 < davidc__> just hold << while it reboots.
02:06 < davidc__> just go reboot and then hold << when you see the apple logo until it boots into the apple os
02:07 < joshk> http://ipodlinux.org/Special:Listusers <-- haha, full of spammers, for sure
02:07 < joshk> oh
02:07 < joshk> only the first few, i guess
02:07 < davidc__> fuck.
02:07 < davidc__> there are tons
02:07 < coob> we got hit by a botnet of wiki spamemrs
02:07 < Wengero> dammit
02:07 < Wengero> i did it again
02:08 < davidc__> wengero - did what?
02:08 < Wengero> i used quit podzilla
02:08 < davidc__> that should just go right back into podzilla
02:08 < Pklgnome> that doesn't boot into the apple firmware
02:08 < davidc__> if its crashed
02:08 < Pklgnome> that just reboots the podzilla itself
02:08 < davidc__> just hold center button + play
02:09 < Wengero> whats the easiest way to go into apple firmware... restarting without touching anything?
02:09 < Pklgnome> reboot ipod
02:09 < Wengero> k
02:09 < Pklgnome> wait
02:10 < Pklgnome> is your default os linux?
02:10 < davidc__> depends how you set it up
02:10 < Wengero> i still dont understand why using quit podzilla screws it up so much
02:10 < davidc__> Wengero: it shouldnt
02:10 < davidc__> I've never heard of it screwing up like that
02:10 < davidc__> but still,
02:10 < Pklgnome> quit podzilla quits the podzilla and boots into it again
02:10 < Pklgnome> it doesn't do anything else
02:10 < davidc__> if the default os is set as linux, then you need to hold <<
02:10 < davidc__> however, if the default os is appleos, then just boot without holding anything
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02:14 < davidc__> Wengero: it all workin now?
02:14 < Wengero> yup
02:14 < davidc__> good
02:14 < davidc__> try updating to the latest nightlys
02:14 < davidc__> that might fix the crash on quit
02:17 < Troy^> can linux allow u to play movies on ur ipod photo
02:17 < aegray> without sound
02:18 < aegray> right now
02:18 < Troy^> that sucks
02:18 < aegray> thanks
02:18 < coob> yous uck
02:18 < coob> fuck off.
02:18 < Troy^> ??
02:18 < aegray> ass
02:18 < Wengero> the love is in the air
02:18 < Troy^> wtf are u flamin me for alls i said is that sucks because it wont play the sound
02:19 < Troy^> wow
02:19 < Troy^> lol
02:19 < Troy^> stuck up idiot
02:19 < Vanquisher> Troy^, dont complain
02:19 < joshk> o/~ do you believe in magic o/~
02:19 < Troy^> i wasnt
02:19 < coob> that it plays video in the first place is great, I'd like to see you try better. have some fucking respect.
02:19 < Vanquisher> Troy^, if u dont like it fucking do something about it, until then stfu
02:19 < aegray> stuck up idiot - write something yourself dick
02:19 < aegray> wait coob said it better
02:19 < aegray> i'll let him talk
02:19 < Pklgnome> hey
02:19 < Troy^> lol
02:19 < Troy^> hah
02:19 < Troy^> i didnt mean anythiung by it
02:20 < Pklgnome> he wasn't saying that the video wasn't an awesome accomplishment
02:20 < Troy^> but all means if it gives u soemthing to do
02:20 < Pklgnome> hey was saying that it would be better if it had sound
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02:20 < Wengero> video is the main reason why i came to podzilla:P
02:20 < Pklgnome> i'm sure he recognizes that it takes a lot of time to do all that stuff
02:20 < Wengero> i saw it and i was like i must have that
02:20 < Pklgnome> so he's just looking forward to it
02:20 < Troy^> yes i also recognize this but i didnt not mean my sentence to be an offense to podzilla
02:21 < coob> well it was taken as that, and thats what matters.
02:22 < Troy^> ok well im telling u now
02:22 < Pklgnome> just apologize, and shut up
02:23 < Pklgnome> or apologize and continue with normal conversation
02:23 < davidc__> everyone take a chill pill
02:23 < davidc__> or I'll enforce chill pills with /kick
02:23 < aegray> i just took 5
02:23 < joshk> :O
02:23 < joshk> aegray is unstable
02:23 < Pklgnome> so coob, was the recording bug fixed in the latest nightly?
02:24 < coob> what bug
02:25 < aegray> no bug is know of
02:25 < courtc> There's no tracker for a recording bug.
02:25 < Pklgnome> so the gain not being very good isn't a bug?
02:25 < aegray> davidc__: is there always a 0x10000000 start off for the ram section in ida?
02:26 < courtc> NO F'ING TRACKER..
02:26 < davidc__> aegray - its wherever you put it.
02:27 < davidc__> pklgnome - file a report in the bug tracker
02:27 < Pklgnome> ok
02:27 < aegray> ok
02:29 < Pklgnome> first:
02:29 < Pklgnome> what is the expected range for the earbud microphone?
02:29 < MikeRS> probably super-close... I don't know because my cat tore them up so I can't test :p
02:30 < Pklgnome> i heard a recording from supposedly 2 feet away
02:31 < Pklgnome> sounded great
02:31 < courtc> the fact that the earbud doesn't make a very good microphone is because its not a mic! Thats no bug, you need good gain? Get a real mic or an amp.
02:31 < Troy^> anybody here connect there ipod through a firewire port through there soundcard
02:31 < Pklgnome> no
02:31 < Pklgnome> i heard a recording from 2 feet away
02:31 < Pklgnome> using the earbud
02:31 < Pklgnome> at 44.1 khz
02:31 < courtc> so...
02:31 < Pklgnome> sounded great
02:32 < Pklgnome> when i do it from 3 inches
02:32 < courtc> maybe your earbuds make shitty a mic..
02:32 < Pklgnome> it picks it up, but it's quiet
02:32 < Pklgnome> and there is a lot of noise
02:32 < davidc__> yeah. its the shitty earbuds.
02:32 < Pklgnome> i'm telling you: the recording used the apple earbuds also
02:32 < davidc__> you're sure
02:32 < courtc> You really can't complain. Its a headphone for goodness sake.
02:32 < Pklgnome> and just a week ago
02:33 < Pklgnome> coob told me
02:33 < davidc__> try with a real microphone then we'll talk
02:33 < Pklgnome> that it was not the earbud
02:33 < Pklgnome> but that it had been fixed in a nightly
02:33 < BleuLlama> you could run to radio shack and buy a $5 microphone.
02:33 < Pklgnome> i know
02:33 < BleuLlama> or wait until we have belkin/griffin mic support
02:33 < MikeRS> I tried using my computer speaker as a microphone
02:33 < MikeRS> I had to really shout in it just for it to have a quite recording
02:33 < Pklgnome> but if it will work with an earbud, there's no reason to
02:35 < MikeRS> Hopefully... we can use regular microphones with iPL, right? >_>
02:35 < courtc> yea, but we aren't going to act on a bug that might just be because you are using earbuds.
02:35 < coob> wtf
02:35 < coob> you're using earbuds and you're complaining about gain?
02:36 < coob> get a grip
02:36 < Pklgnome> would you stop being so aggressively offensive?
02:36 < Pklgnome> coob: you told me that it was not the earbuds
02:36 < coob> then i was wrong
02:36 < Pklgnome> when i asked you about a week ago, maybe 2
02:36 < Pklgnome> ok
02:36 < Pklgnome> thank you
02:36 < coob> unless you said you tried a mic also
02:37 < courtc> wait, you are trying to tell me to stop being aggressive when you are insisting that theres a bug in your earbud recording gain?
02:38 < courtc> Dammit my car flys horribly. Must be the fuel.
02:38  * BleuLlama is amused by people who use ipl to record at 44.1khz, then record through an earphone instead of a microphone. hehe
02:39 < zsr> does the 4g installer have the newest podzilla and schtuff?
02:39 < aegray> not yet
02:39 < coob> unsupported.
02:39 < aegray> it will tomorrow i think
02:39 < zsr> bah
02:39 < zsr> ok
02:39 < zsr> recording work?
02:40 < aegray> on 4g idon't think so
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02:40 < aegray> ha
02:41 < Vanquisher> but! full speed on photo 4g....and they play videos, amazing :)
02:41 < Vanquisher> coob, were you watching family guy on ur photo?
02:42 < MikeRS> I found a bug with the display of an Album list... happens every time
02:42 < aegray> what happens
02:42 < MikeRS> it's for the "A Hangover You Don't Deserve" album
02:42 < coob> yes.
02:43 < MikeRS> Starting with Shut-Up and Smile, the names are blacked out
02:43 < BleuLlama> which band is that, mike?
02:43 < MikeRS> I have a feeling it's the hyphen
02:43 < MikeRS> it's Bowling for Soup
02:43 < BleuLlama> yeah.
02:43 < MikeRS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hangover_You_Don't_Deserve
02:43 < Vanquisher> coob, how did it look?
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02:43 < coob> fantastic.
02:43 < BleuLlama> podzilla has this thing against them.  try changing the band name to something else, like Megadeth, and the ipod will get confused, and work properly
02:43 < BleuLlama> ;)
02:44 < Vanquisher> coob, anything special need to be done to the avi besides that mencoder command listed in the wiki
02:44 < courtc> BleuLlama- whoa what now? since when?
02:44 < aegray> no
02:45 < courtc> oh, it was a joke...
02:45 < MikeRS> I don't see a pattern though...
02:45 < courtc> I thought you meant hyphens..
02:45 < MikeRS> It won't seem to be the space in the band name, Garth Brooks and The Killers both display fine
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02:46 < courtc> I bet that hyphen is utf16
02:46 < MikeRS> and "American Honky-Tonk Bar Association" (Garth Brooks - In Pieces) and down show up fine too
02:46 < MikeRS> well, I'll change that then... shouldn't be too hard, I use GNUpod :p
02:46 < courtc> don't see why it would break the rest though...
02:47 < Vanquisher> one thing, the battery meter on the 4gs, any breakthroughs on that
02:48 < courtc> no
02:48 < Vanquisher> k
02:48 < aegray> can anyone on a 3g or below test a podzilla for me
02:48 < aegray> ?
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02:49 < courtc> its a "happy" battery meter.. theres no "damn, the battery is almost dead"
02:49 < MikeRS> no, it's a normal hypen and still does it
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02:50 < Vanquisher> courtc, but u dont know how much longer its gonna last :(
02:50 < courtc> lasts forever
02:50 < joecool> heh
02:50 < courtc> even when its dieing the battery meter is full
02:50 < joecool> the "optimistic" meter
02:51 < Vanquisher> courtc, if that were only true
02:51 < Vanquisher> joecool, did u upload that shit
02:53 < MikeRS> here's a picture if you need to see it... the names (from FreeDB.org) are the same as Wikipedia's list
02:53 < MikeRS> http://philipjfry.ath.cx/brokennames.jpg
02:53 < aegray> <= 3g tester of a cool podzill?
02:53 < aegray> who wants in?
02:53 < aegray> perks! benefits!
02:53 < MikeRS> also, the directory arrow thing
02:54 < MikeRS> However, it will play (and display normally) when I select it
02:57 < Wengero> hey umm for installing video all i had to do was replace the podzilla binary file with the one on the video page right?
02:58 < MikeRS> plus you need the video-enabled kernel
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02:58 < Wengero> woopsies
03:02 < Wengero> what do i do with the kernel?
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03:04 < Wengero> screw it ill just wait till tonight or tomorows nightie
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03:09 < joshk> aegray: so, no progress at all with the firmware
03:09 < aegray> not tonight
03:09 < aegray> unless you know how to resize a vmware drive
03:10 < courtc> hmm..
03:11 < joshk> aegray: what do you mean?
03:11 < joshk> what are you trying to do
03:11 < aegray> i run windows through vmware on linux
03:11 < aegray> the drive for vmware is out of space
03:11 < aegray> so its not letting ida load the firmware
03:11 < courtc> vmkfstools -X
03:12 < courtc> and http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
03:12 < aegray> don't have vmkfstools
03:12 < aegray> hmm
03:13 < joshk> aegray: it doesn't work with wine?
03:13 < aegray> i suck with linux
03:13 < aegray> so i've never really set it up
03:13 < aegray> i used crossover office
03:14 < aegray> which should have worked
03:14 < aegray> but everything displayed garbled
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03:24 < MikeRS> well, this is a very crude way I use to "resize" vmware disks ...
03:24 < MikeRS> 1. Make a new virtual disk
03:24 < MikeRS> 2. Use Partition Magic (or any other capable partitioner) to copy to the new disk
03:25 < MikeRS> 3. stop running the VM and delete the first disk and reassign the new one to slot 0:0
03:25 < MikeRS> 4. Manually (ugh) delete the first disk
03:25 < aegray> thats the plan eventually if i can't find a better way
03:25 < aegray> but its not happening tonight
03:26 < MikeRS> vmkfstools looks like it comes with VMware ESX Server, not VMware Workstation
03:26 < MikeRS> I have Workstation too, so you're not missing anything from my instruction :p
03:27 < joshk> hrm
03:27 < MikeRS> unimportant story because it doesn't look like any one else has something to talk about...
03:28 < joshk> looks like adding the piezo code in start_loc actually interfered with normal execution
03:28 < aegray> 3g testers?
03:28 < MikeRS> Slowest thing in VMware that I've done is install Reiser4 Gentoo in it
03:28 < joshk> i might be wrong about start_loc not working
03:28 < aegray> thats no good
03:28 < aegray> anyone want to test on a 3g?
03:29 < aegray> flexible hours?
03:29 < BleuLlama> i want to test on a 3g.  send me one!  ;)
03:29 < aegray> haha
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03:32 < joshk> aegray: so, when i boot my iPod after writing some make_fw output into it, and it goes into the iPod firmware, what part of the loader does it actually use?
03:32 < joshk> er
03:32 < joshk> it goes into the Apple firmware is wha ti meant
03:33 < aegray> starts in startup.s
03:33 < aegray> oh
03:33 < aegray> no clue
03:33 < aegray> leachbj would know that
03:33 < coob> or davidc..
03:34 < aegray> yea him too
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03:45 < MikeRS> (well that was a bad move... the darn thing froze up immediately .-.)
03:47  * joshk also wonders why it's possible to boot into Apple firmware with only 3MB/40MB of the original firmware
03:47 < joshk> (make_fw -e ... / make_fw -i ...)
03:48 < MikeRS> bah... it's late anyway, good night people!
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03:50 < courtc> joshk, most of that is just null padding
03:50 < joshk> so why does the original? only compress to 30MB
03:50 < joshk> er
03:50 < joshk> put the ? at the end heh
03:51 < aegray> proper sentences please
03:51 < aegray> we'll have none of that here
03:51 < joshk> why does the original only compress to 30MB if only 3MB uncompressed is really needed
03:51 < courtc> ok, maybe its garbage instead! of null
03:51 < joshk> heh
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03:53 < courtc> hey its a pdpc supporter!
03:54 < aegray> whats that?
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03:55 < courtc> You've reached freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects Center. PDPC is an IRS 501(c)(3) not-for-profit, tax-exempt corporation. Your donations provide resources to help keep PDPC running.
03:55 < aegray> ah
03:57 < courtc> http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml for more!  (see now I'm a supporter too!)
04:06 < aegray> 1-3g testers - anyone?
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04:07 < aegray> damn it
04:10 < zsr> http://djsnet.co.uk/files/wtf/gold_kart.wmv
04:11 < aegray> you guys have done it now
04:11 < aegray> no 1-3g support any long
04:11 < joshk> ?
04:11 < aegray> er
04:11 < joshk> what for?
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04:11 < aegray> no testers
04:15 < aegray> too bad for you guys
04:15 < aegray> this is a revolutionary program
04:15 < aegray> but you'll never know what it does
04:15 < aegray> if your on a 1-3g
04:16 < courtc> shame them into testing.
04:16 < coob> hahah revolutionary
04:16 < coob> that guy still hasn't called me.
04:16 < aegray> nor me
04:16 < aegray> monday maybe
04:17 < urbanvanilla> hey good thing i have a 4g :D
04:17 < aegray> it will revolutionize industry as we know it
04:17 < aegray> no support for you either
04:17 < courtc> he callled me.. (whoever we are talking about)
04:17 < aegray> haha
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04:39 < joshk> :|
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04:43 < MikeRS> I know I said I was going <_<
04:44 < MikeRS> I had an idea... how difficult (and efficient) would it be to have on-the-fly MP3 reversing?
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04:44 < urbanvanilla> whats the real point of that
04:44 < urbanvanilla> subliminal messages?
04:45 < MikeRS> in a way... mainly for fun
04:45 < MikeRS> one thing: Another One Bites the Bus sounds like "It's Fun to Smoke Marijuana" :p
04:45 < MikeRS> backwards
04:45 < aegray> rencode it on desktop
04:45 < MikeRS> if it's not that easy to do it's fine... I can do it on the computer
04:46 < aegray> or write something that prebuffers audio frames from mp3 and reads them back backwords
04:47 < MikeRS> anyway... it's not a formal request... just wanted to ask it before I forgot about it over the night
04:48 < MikeRS> And good work guys! I love doing with iPL on my 4g exactly what I did with Apple's OS -- MP3s!
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05:13 < chinchilla> Hi guy
05:14 < aegray> s
05:14 < aegray> (had to complete your typing for you)
05:14 < chinchilla> i have a problem in cygwin
05:15 < chinchilla> Administrador@n0v4k-ibm ~/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod
05:15 < chinchilla> $ ./configure CC=arm-elf-gcc LDFLAGS=-elf2flt --host=arm-elf
05:15 < chinchilla> checking for gcc... arm-elf-gcc
05:15 < chinchilla> checking whether the C compiler (arm-elf-gcc  -elf2flt) works... no
05:15 < chinchilla> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot creat
05:15 < chinchilla> e executables.
05:15 < aegray> hey
05:15 < chinchilla> aegray: hi
05:15 < aegray> no flood in this room
05:15 < courtc> suggestion: don't flood
05:15 < aegray> it scares me too much when you paste
05:15 < chinchilla> :$
05:15 < courtc> better suggestion: use linux
05:15 < chinchilla> courtc: good work :D
05:16 < aegray> haha
05:16 < chinchilla> ejeje video ipod wowow
05:16 < courtc> best suggestion: ask google, ask wiki, ask forum.
05:16 < aegray> and when you figure it out email me
05:16 < aegray> i had this problem and couldn't get it
05:16 < chinchilla> forum
05:17 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/
05:17 < coob> suggestion: install toolchain
05:17 < chinchilla> :D
05:17 < courtc> cool idea: add --build=arm-elf
05:18 < chinchilla> search...
05:22 < chinchilla> nice :(
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05:29 < chinchilla> :(
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05:37 < coob> 'Apple CEO Steve Jobs today revealed to a stunned WWDC audience that Apple would be transitioning to Sun Chips® brand multigrain snacks.
05:38 < aegray> haha
05:38 < courtc> hahaha
05:39 < chinchilla> cell :D
05:39 < chinchilla> iCell
05:41 -!- psilocyibn [~ACIDITY35@ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c3a-68.anhmca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux
05:41 < psilocyibn> yo
05:42 < psilocyibn> can some one help me
05:42 < psilocyibn> ?
05:42 < aegray> maybe
05:42 < aegray> theres forms to fill out though
05:42 < psilocyibn> i see that podzilla is installed on the mini 4g
05:42 < psilocyibn> but can it be installed on the 6gig?
05:43 < aegray> no
05:43 < aegray> not yet
05:43 < courtc> nope..
05:43 < psilocyibn> no even at my own risk?
05:43 < aegray> no
05:43 < psilocyibn> not even at my own risk?
05:43 < aegray> won't work at all
05:43 < psilocyibn> danm
05:43 < courtc> not even then
05:43 < psilocyibn> ive tryed installing it soo many times
05:43 < aegray> well - if you like it to not work - then at your own risk
05:43 < psilocyibn> have u guys seen that video of the video player on the ipod phote?
05:44 < psilocyibn> have u guys seen that video of the video player on the ipod photo?
05:44 < aegray> which one?
05:44 < courtc> hahaha
05:44 < aegray> theres a few out there
05:44 < psilocyibn> family guy one
05:44 < aegray> maybe...
05:44 < psilocyibn> it looks soo good
05:44 < aegray> it doesn't stutter now
05:44 < aegray> so it looks better
05:44 < aegray> (yay!)
05:44 < courtc> the video player that aegray made? yea, he might have seen it..
05:45 -!- aegray is now known as johnandrews
05:45 < johnandrews> i love that aegray guy
05:45 -!- johnandrews is now known as aegra
05:45 < psilocyibn> do u guys know when the 1st 6gig linux will availble?
05:45 < aegra> haha i can't change back
05:45 < urbanvanilla> tomorrow
05:45 < aegra> at 3:34
05:45 < aegra> no
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05:45 < aegra> its being worked on though
05:45 < urbanvanilla> no...4:34. get it right aegray :P
05:45 -!- aegra is now known as aegray
05:46 < prophet17> has anyone gotten the audio to work on a Photo?
05:46 < coob> http://so2.sys-techs.com/4gcountdown/
05:46 < aegray> haha
05:46 < aegray> i got it to work
05:46 < prophet17> how?
05:46 < aegray> but i'm refusing to release it
05:46 < prophet17> grrrr
05:46 < aegray> i'm just that damn good
05:46 < prophet17> a little modest arent we hehe
05:46 < joshk> (nb: he's full of shit)
05:47 < prophet17> lol
05:47 < urbanvanilla> heh. heh. heh.
05:47 < aegray> how dare you
05:47 < aegray>  /duel joshk
05:47 < prophet17> lol you play WoW i assume?
05:47 < aegray> huh?
05:47 < prophet17> guess not
05:47  * joshk wields the +7 Pallet of Outdated Hardware
05:47 < prophet17> i want this dam audio to work!
05:47 < aegray> it works
05:47 < prophet17> ahhahaha
05:48 < prophet17> with....
05:48  * aegray doesn't understand what joshk said
05:48 < courtc> funny, audio works for me
05:48 < aegray> install a nightly
05:48 < aegray> damnit
05:48 < psilocyibn> are u guys like linux pors
05:48 < psilocyibn> pros
05:48 < prophet17> not me lol
05:48 < courtc> umm..
05:48 < psilocyibn> DUDE IM A REASON FOR DELY???
05:48 < prophet17> im mediocer
05:48 < psilocyibn> DANM IT
05:48 < aegray> courtc like to think of myself as a connesieur
05:48 < aegray> whoops
05:48 < psilocyibn> IM SORRY GUY
05:48 < joshk> hahaha
05:48 < joshk> connoiseur
05:49 < aegray> likes to think of hisself
05:49 < psilocyibn> mabye i can help out some how
05:49 < psilocyibn> donate something
05:49 < aegray> sure
05:49 < aegray> 300$ minimum
05:49 < aegray> and my bartab tomorrow night
05:49 < courtc> or an ipod
05:49 < aegray> actually that would be pretty good
05:49 < prophet17> lol just read the title "We ddo NOT offer 4g support yet!!"
05:49 < prophet17> oops
05:49 < courtc> I thought you were 12?
05:49 < aegray> in europe they allow us to drink
05:49 < courtc> ahha!
05:49 < psilocyibn> do u have paypal
05:50 < aegray> awesome
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05:50 < courtc> heh
05:50 < psilocyibn> i can possibly send some money over
05:50 < psilocyibn> via paypal
05:50 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Donations
05:50 < courtc> how'd that index.php get in there?
05:50 < prophet17> aegray: what are you running on your 4g now a nightly and the audio works?
05:50 < aegray> you should have taken it for yourself
05:50 < aegray> i'm running my own custom kernel
05:51 < aegray> i wrote it from scratch
05:51 < aegray> 3 years in the running
05:51 < prophet17> i wish i knew how to program
05:51 < aegray> read the cvs changelog on the mainpage
05:51 < psilocyibn> HEY
05:51 < psilocyibn> I DONATED
05:51 < psilocyibn> Total Amount: 		€0.03 EUR
05:51 < psilocyibn> is that cool
05:51 < prophet17> lol
05:51 < aegray> i dunno about that
05:51 < prophet17> the dam ViPodzilla audio doesnt work
05:51 < psilocyibn> i really did donate that
05:51 < psilocyibn> i hope it helps you guys
05:52 < aegray> from when?
05:52 < aegray> use new viPodzilla
05:52 < aegray> it got added a while ago
05:52 < psilocyibn> what ipod do u have gray?
05:52 < aegray> = read wiki
05:52 < prophet17> hmmm let me check
05:52 < aegray> ipod photo and ipod 4g
05:52 < aegray> and ipod 5g
05:52 < psilocyibn> the 5gig?
05:52 < aegray> (proto)
05:52 < psilocyibn> is that good
05:52 < aegray> its pretty sweet
05:53 < prophet17> im running podzilla 2005-04-17CVS
05:53 < prophet17> thats what the "about" screen says
05:53 < aegray> 2005-05-25 and above has audio i think
05:53 < psilocyibn> whats the best linux for the pod?
05:53 < prophet17> it does.....but only for a split second
05:53 < aegray> what do you mean by best linux?
05:53 < aegray> ipodlinux i would guess because thats the only one
05:54 < aegray> prophet17: what?
05:54 < psilocyibn> o
05:54 < psilocyibn> i thought podzilla was a differn't one
05:54 < psilocyibn> mabye i have the tottaly wrong view on the opd linux scene
05:54 < psilocyibn> mabye i have the tottaly wrong view on the pod linux scene
05:54 < smacmac> Podzilla is not linux.
05:55 < smacmac> it is a program
05:55 < courtc> podzilla starts with a lower-case p.
05:55 < prophet17> the audio plays but extremely choppy
05:55 < urbanvanilla> why exactly is stuff called zilla anyway
05:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke
05:55 < prophet17> and will actually play for a split second
05:55 < aegray> get a new podzilla
05:55 < aegray> it plays pretty good now
05:56 < prophet17> i thought i had the most recent?
05:56 < courtc> Imagine godzilla poddized.
05:56 < urbanvanilla> well obviously you dont
05:56 < aegray> maybe release
05:56 < aegray> get a nightly
05:56 < prophet17> ok
05:56 < courtc> and you have trogdor.
05:56 < prophet17> be right back
05:57 < psilocyibn> wait, so can i install any of these programs on my ipod 6gig?
05:57 < psilocyibn> can i change it in anyway
05:57 < aegray> no
05:57 < psilocyibn> install games of anykind?
05:57 < aegray> no
05:57 < aegray> not yet
05:57 < psilocyibn> :(
05:57 < courtc> you must be patient
05:57 < psilocyibn> ok
05:58 < psilocyibn> i bet the japensese already have linux on the 6gig
05:58 < aegray> yea - thats it
05:58 < aegray> those damn japanese
05:58 < psilocyibn> hahaha
05:58 < aegray> just beating us to everything
05:58 < psilocyibn> just messin
05:58 < psilocyibn> are u the creator of ipodlinux
05:58 < joshk> no
05:58 < aegray> joshk is
05:58 < joshk> that's right
05:58 < psilocyibn> danm
05:59 < prophet17> dammit it wont boot into the apple OS lol
05:59 < courtc> whos joshk
05:59 < aegray> what a genious huh?
05:59 < joshk> dunno him
05:59 < psilocyibn> i wish i knew how to code like u guys
05:59 < aegray> code?
05:59 < courtc> u?
05:59 < psilocyibn> code linux on ipod
05:59 < courtc> oh, you?
05:59 < prophet17> isnt there a key combo to boot into the original firmware?
05:59 < joshk> dude, we just sit on the toilet with our laptops, get high, and by the time we flush the toilet the code works
06:00 < aegray> genious joshk just genious
06:00 < aegray> you don't even remember doing it
06:00 < joshk> yeah
06:00 < psilocyibn> i have these plans for the mini, to attach a camera on the top and able to record and all
06:00 < psilocyibn> i already designed the camera
06:00 < courtc> yea, double tap rewind then you circles counter-clockwise  on the wheel, thats the Kick-Of-Frost.
06:00 < psilocyibn> i need some one to code for me
06:00 < aegray> is it made out of cardboard?
06:00 < psilocyibn> no
06:00 < psilocyibn> plastic
06:00 < psilocyibn> chips
06:00 < psilocyibn> im not joking
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06:01 < psilocybin> do u wanna help me out
06:01 < courtc> dude, sun chips are for eating.
06:01 < aegray> sure
06:01 < aegray> haha
06:02 < aegray> lets see the camera
06:04 < psilocybin> i was lying
06:04 < aegray> wait. really?
06:04 < psilocybin> i just wanted to fit in with u guys
06:04 < psilocybin> yes
06:04 < aegray> cuz i was thinking that the mini would be perfect for both displaying videos and saving them
06:04 < courtc> maybe he's lying now.. can't tell.
06:05 < aegray> i know
06:05 < aegray> i don't trust anyone know
06:05 < aegray> now*
06:05 < aegray> damnit
06:05 < psilocybin> lol
06:05 < psilocybin> how told are u gray
06:05 < psilocybin> how old are u gray
06:05 < aegray> 12
06:05 < aegray> for real
06:05 < aegray> ask courtc
06:05 < prophet17> the nightly will support 4g right
06:05 < psilocybin> ya rite
06:05 < courtc> very told, I told him earlier
06:05 < psilocybin> im 18
06:05 < aegray> yes
06:05 < aegray> no support
06:06 < psilocybin> and i like do combine psilocybin mushrooms with xtc
06:06 < psilocybin> its called hippie flippin
06:06 < joshk> i'm the queen of france
06:06 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing psilocybin mushrooms with lsd
06:07 < psilocybin> its called candy flippin
06:07 < psilocybin> WOOPS
06:07 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing XTC with lsd
06:07 < psilocybin> its called candy flippin
06:07 < psilocybin> i also enjoying combineing ketamine with XTC
06:07 < psilocybin> its called kitty flippin
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06:07 < aegray> want a prize?
06:07 < psilocybin> gray i bet if u did any of those u'd die
06:08 < aegray> probably
06:08 < aegray> your just so hard
06:08 < psilocybin> no
06:08 < psilocybin> im not
06:08 < aegray> nothing effects you
06:08 < courtc> I enjoy combining ops with stfu
06:08 < psilocybin> accually
06:08 < psilocybin> heroin hits the spot
06:08 < courtc> seriously, enough.
06:08 < aegray> +q
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06:14 < prophet17> how do i boot into the original firmware
06:15 < aegray> hold left when you boot
06:15 < aegray> (rewind)
06:15 < prophet17> ok
06:16 < prophet17> doesnt work
06:16 < psilocybin> later guys
06:16 < psilocybin> later guys
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06:16 < psilocybin> later guys
06:16 < prophet17> goodbye
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06:17 < prophet17> is there another way to do it?
06:18 < aegray> restore utility
06:18 < prophet17> i cant
06:18 < prophet17> my computer wont pick up the ipod
06:19 < aegray> 4g?
06:19 < prophet17> unless im running the apple OS
06:19 < prophet17> yeah
06:19 < urbanvanilla> plug it in, then reboot
06:19 < prophet17> photo
06:19 < urbanvanilla> or put it into diskmode
06:19 < aegray> press + hold menu+select
06:19 < courtc> pick up, eh?
06:19 < aegray> then when apple appears
06:19  * courtc sleeps
06:19 < prophet17> yeah
06:19 < aegray> press+hold select and play
06:19 < aegray> good idea courtc
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06:20 < aegray> EvilDude!
06:20 < aegray> i have something for you to try!
06:20 < EvilDude> hey
06:20 < EvilDude> woot :)
06:21 < prophet17> not working....
06:21 < aegray> did it reboot?
06:21 < urbanvanilla> prophet, is it plugged in at the moment
06:21 < prophet17> yeah....into linux
06:21 < aegray> hold on - i'll email it to you
06:21 < prophet17> yes
06:21 < EvilDude> ok :)
06:21 < urbanvanilla> are you sure :)
06:21 < prophet17> usb
06:21 < aegray> when apple appears press rewind + select (center)
06:21 < aegray> hold
06:21 < prophet17> k
06:21 < aegray> then scroll to diskmod
06:21 < aegray> e
06:21 < aegray> i'll email you a podzilla to try
06:22 < prophet17> ok works now thanks =)
06:22 < aegray> sent
06:22 < aegray> try that out for size
06:23 < EvilDude> so no kernel changing required?
06:23 < aegray> this isn't for video
06:23 < aegray> you'll see what it is
06:23 < aegray> main menu will have something new
06:23 < EvilDude> oo ok
06:23 < urbanvanilla> :O
06:23 < aegray> i don't know if it works on 3g
06:23 < urbanvanilla> sounds interesting..
06:24  * urbanvanilla makes hand gestures
06:24 < aegray> too bad for you
06:24 < prophet17> very
06:24 < aegray> i told you i'm not supporting you
06:24 < aegray> or maybe that was someone else
06:24 < urbanvanilla> meanie
06:24 < aegray> haha
06:24 < urbanvanilla> no, that was me :)
06:24 < EvilDude> OH
06:24 < urbanvanilla> i dont remember why though
06:24 < prophet17> lol
06:24 < EvilDude> turns off screen
06:24 < aegray> ok good - have to keep who i'm an asshole to straight
06:24 < aegray> shhhh
06:24 < urbanvanilla> :O
06:24 < EvilDude> but i know the screen is still sorta on
06:24 < EvilDude> lol whoops =\
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06:25 < EvilDude> i mean its not working :P
06:25 < urbanvanilla> duuuuuuuude
06:25 < EvilDude> i think this belongs to pm :p
06:25 < aegray> haha
06:25 < urbanvanilla> now thats just cruel
06:25 < aegray> you'll get it sometime
06:26 < urbanvanilla> yeah, it doesnt actually bother me, heh, im supposed to be studying
06:26 < urbanvanilla> s'better it doesn't get to me sooner.
06:30 < prophet17> uh the audio comes on for like a second
06:30 < zsr> www.novastream.org/listen.m3uu
06:30 < zsr> www.novastream.org/listen.m3u
06:30 < zsr> :)
06:30 < zsr> i is djin
06:33 < prophet17> whats "malloc failed" mean?
06:33 < aegray> it means that the mp3 was too large
06:33 < aegray> talk to EvilDude
06:33 < prophet17> oh
06:34 < EvilDude> we have problems with mp3 playback
06:34 < EvilDude> the free doesnt seem to be working very well it seems
06:34 < prophet17> yeah
06:34 < prophet17> everything else is awesome though
06:34 < prophet17> just no good audio
06:35 < aegray> on a 4g?
06:35 < prophet17> yeah
06:35 < urbanvanilla> i love it how everyone who says something isnt working hasta go 'but everything else is great!' to cover arse.
06:35 < aegray> damn it - audio works
06:35 < urbanvanilla> ;)
06:35 < EvilDude> latest 4g has good audio :P
06:35 < aegray> i can listen to 320kbps mp3s on 4g
06:35 < EvilDude> latest nightlies should be awesome
06:35 < EvilDude> haha
06:35 < prophet17> can you give me a link please?
06:35 < prophet17> i have to be looking in the wrong spots then
06:35 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/builds/
06:36 < prophet17> and these are the instructions correct? http://www.ipodlinux.org/Windows_nightly_build_installation
06:36 < aegray> you download those and copy the linux.bin and podzilla into the installer directory (overwrite the originals - make sure they're overwriting)
06:36 < prophet17> ok
06:36 < prophet17> let me try
06:36 < aegray> yes
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06:40 < prophet17> i have to rename 2005-03-30-kenel.bin to linux.bin right?
06:40 < EvilDude> yes
06:41 < prophet17> is that all i need?
06:42 < prophet17> the linux.bin?
06:42 < prophet17> and podzilla goes into the root right?
06:43 < EvilDude> yes
06:43 < prophet17> ok
06:43 < EvilDude> if you have a start script at least it does
06:43 < EvilDude> make sure there's a file called "start" on the ipod root
06:43 < prophet17> with those 2 lines of code right
06:44 < EvilDude> what are the lines?
06:44 < prophet17> mv /hp/podzilla /sbin/
06:44 < prophet17> rm /hp/start /hp/podzilla
06:45 < EvilDude> good enough
06:45 < prophet17> how should i make this file?
06:46 < prophet17> text and remove the extension?
06:48 < prophet17> nevermind i got it
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06:49 < prophet17> now i get a picture of a file with a ! symbol next to it and it reboots itself
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06:55 < EvilDude> thats not good
06:55 < urbanvanilla> it surprises me that people dont realise what that means.
06:55 < EvilDude> you might need to do an update
06:55 < EvilDude> use apple updater to update
06:55 < EvilDude> and then install
07:00 < prophet17> i can only restore
07:03 < prophet17> it says its up to date
07:03 < prophet17> version 1.0
07:14 < prophet17> ok ive done it three times i give up
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07:17 < EvilDude> lol well to restore you have to change stuff in the sysinfo file
07:17 < EvilDude> read the windows installer faq or readme or something on how to do that
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07:26 < EvilDude> couldnt sleep :P ?
07:27 < aegray> eh - i'm waiting for these songs to transfer to my ipod
07:27 < EvilDude> h
07:27 < aegray> then i can go home
07:27 < EvilDude> oh*
07:27 < EvilDude> home :| ?
07:27 < aegray> and i missed your company
07:27 < EvilDude> haha
07:27 < EvilDude> whats the time and you're at WORK :| ?
07:27 < aegray> i'm at dads house - i live with mom (during summer at least)
07:27 < EvilDude> ohh ok
07:28 < EvilDude> I thought you just couldnt sleep with all the code inyour mind ;)
07:29 < aegray> i've been staring at this screen for way too long
07:29 < aegray> i have no code in my brain
07:29 < EvilDude> haha damn
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07:33 < aegray> is http://www.ipodlinux.org/User:Aegray going too far?
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07:33 < EvilDude> hahahaha
07:33 < EvilDude> nice ;)
07:34 < aegray> i dunno - i might change that
07:34 < EvilDude> but unfortunately a profile at ipodlinux wiki isnt the best place to hook up with girls ;)
07:34 < aegray> haha
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07:35 < EvilDude> You can always prove me wrong though :P
07:35 < aegray> haha - i'm taken but that would be hilarious
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07:36 < aegray> hmmm - i'm still  getting choppy mp3 on photo
07:37 < aegray> oh well
07:37 < aegray> i'm goin
07:37 < aegray> night again
07:37 < aegray> haha
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08:24 < EvilDude> I'm gonna change the wiki for Video player to show that everything is supported
08:25 < urbanvanilla> what, even the 2g mini?
08:25 < urbanvanilla> cos thats just mean.
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08:26 < EvilDude> haha no i mean in the article
08:26 < EvilDude> say its not unsupported
08:26 < EvilDude> coz its now in cvs
08:36 < urbanvanilla> ok i think i need to take a break
08:36 < urbanvanilla> my left eye is starting to twitch
08:36 < urbanvanilla> no. right eye.
08:36 < EvilDude> heh
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09:38 < Wengero> hey um... i cant seem to get back to apple, i restarted and nothing happend then i restarted while holding << and nothing happend
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10:30 < T-Viruz> hi everybody
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10:31 < T-Viruz> can somebody tell at which point is the development of the vorbis player
10:31 < T-Viruz> the non-floating point one
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11:24 < urbanvanilla> oh id say its about...at the delta point.
11:24 < urbanvanilla> yeah. thats a pretty much the most accurate estimation there
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14:07 < voldern> Hi, can anybody help me whit my 4G ipod and installing linux on it, on linux?
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14:25 < Z_Man> is it a bad idea to sell my pc to get a mac?
14:26 < aegray> depends on who you ask
14:27 < Z_Man> i know
14:27 < Z_Man> but i want the overall opinion
14:28 < Faulty> why bother? mac are looking to shift to intel chips soon from ppc
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14:29 < voldern> Bumping my question.
14:30 < voldern> Following the http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux on my 4G dont work. I cant partition it, i cant use the length that i listed there or creating a third partiton, and some other errors.
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14:31 < Z_Man> Faulty: when they do, would i be able to run Mac OS on my i686?
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14:32 < Faulty> voldern, when u partition it, delete /dev/sda1, you only need 1-2 cylinders for /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda3 takes up the rest of the space from the partition you deleted
14:32 < Faulty> Z_Man, unknown i don't know enough of their plans, however that's the conclusion i would like to draw
14:34 < voldern> So, fdisk /dev/sda
14:34 < voldern> d, 1
14:34 < voldern> Warning: partition 1 has empty type
14:34 < Faulty> yep
14:34 < Faulty> that error is ok
14:34 < Faulty> (it's just some other os's like winblows don't like empty partitions
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14:35 < Faulty> Z_Man, i've only read the cnet article http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.pop
14:36 < voldern> and then: n, 1
14:36 < Faulty> yep
14:36 < voldern> n, p, 1
14:36 < voldern> First cylinder, 1
14:37 < voldern> Last cylinder, ?
14:37 < Faulty> start cyl 1, end cyl 1 (i only needed 1 cyl on my ipod mini)
14:37 < voldern> a, 1, t, 1, 0
14:37 < Faulty> yep good.. now list the table.. which cyl does /dev/sda2 start?
14:38 < voldern> 6
14:38 < Faulty> yep same as mine ok
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14:38 < Faulty> nilss, p, 3
14:38 < Faulty> first cyl 2, last cyl 5
14:38 < voldern> ol
14:38 < voldern> ok
14:38 < voldern> and then w
14:38 < Faulty> list the table make sure it looks good
14:39 < voldern> It looks good
14:39 < Faulty> then w
14:39 < voldern> and then follow the rest of the guide?
14:39 < Faulty> yeah.. however, i had a problem using the release version of ipodloader
14:40 < voldern> ok, il come back to that later. Thanks!
14:40 < Faulty> it looked like that release didn't support 4g ipods.. so i had to compile it from the sources on cvs
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15:01 < voldern> Faulty: Can you help me compile the ipodloader with cvs, im not familiar with cvs.
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15:23 < voldern> The lib directory below refers to the directory from the kernel release and contains the modules directory. <-- What kernel realease
15:23 < voldern> Its from the linux installation
15:24 < voldern> Ahh i found it out
15:38 < voldern> Can some one help me using cvs to compile the ipodloader?
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15:44 < sicarius> Good morning!
15:44 < aegray> hi
15:45 < sicarius> I can't seem to get amaroK (or SuSE 9.3) to allow me to use my iPod. Any help?
15:45 < _matt_> hey aegray, do you know a player for linux that i can use to test converted videos before I put them on my ipod (mini)?
15:45 < aegray> amarok doesn't work with ipod id on't think
15:45 < aegray> not yet
15:45 < aegray> we need to write that
15:45 < sicarius> It sees it, but crashes anything I try and view it with.
15:45 < sicarius> Yes it says it does.
15:45 < aegray> ah - no clue then
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15:47 < _matt_> ok then no probs
15:47 < aegray> i have part of that written
15:47 < aegray> so well see
15:47 < _matt_> the photo formatted examples will play with mplayer i found
15:47 < aegray> except the colors should be flipped
15:47 < aegray> so it looks like heat vision camera
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15:48 < _matt_> ? well the diving board example from the wiki played normally (not heat vision like)
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15:48 < aegray> do you have an ipod photo?
15:49 < aegray> it should play messed up on an ipod photo then
15:49 < aegray> shit
15:49 < aegray> thats not good
15:49 < _matt_> nope I have a mini.
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15:52 < coob> aegray the photo avis play fine on mplayer..
15:52 < aegray> oh ok
15:52 < aegray> nm then
15:52 < coob> and fine on the 1.0 photos
15:53 < aegray> i'll shut my mouth
15:53 < coob> damns traight! :)
15:53 < coob> straight :/
15:53 < aegray> coob - you've been getting good mp3 playback on photo right?
15:53 < coob> yarr
15:53 < aegray> mine stutters like all hell still
15:53 < aegray> hmmm
15:53 < coob> yeah ipp hates vbr
15:53 < aegray> ah
15:53 < coob> try some cbr
15:54 < aegray> ok
15:54 < coob> helix <3 vbr
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15:57 < coob> Single-handedly putting to shame every iPod mugger on the planet, last Wednesday some dude in Los Angeles managed to drive away with more than $2.6 million worth of iPods after he infilitrated a freight forwarding business and “took over delivery” of over 12,000 iPods.
15:57 < aegray> holy shit
15:58 < _matt_> alright thats great see ya
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16:01 < coob> I like long walks on the beach, holding hands, and puppies. I'm strong but sensitive, and I'm not afraid to cry when it feels right. Friends have said I look like Brad Pitt with a little bit of Tom Cruise. I'm smart, sassy, and not afraid of adventure. I'm looking for someone who's playful, funny, and independent, but can be sensitive to my needs as well.
16:01  * coob rofl
16:01 < aegray> whats rofl
16:02 < aegray> haha
16:02 < aegray> rofl?
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16:02 < coob> rolling on the floor laughing
16:02 < aegray> haha
16:08 < aegray> coob you know about browser.c?
16:08 < coob> a little, why?
16:08 < coob> (that's courtc's baby)
16:09 < aegray> i have a 5gb movie thats being listed as a directory (the flashing arrow)
16:09 < aegray> so i'm thinking the size is causing something
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16:09 < coob> i didn't know FAT supported files bigger than 2gb
16:10 < aegray> i tried it on fat then i tried reformatting the whole thing as ext2
16:10 < aegray> and on ext2 it still does the same
16:10 < coob> heh ext2 doesn't support more than 2gb either does it?!!?
16:10 < aegray> ah shit
16:10 < aegray> what does?
16:10 < coob> reiserfs
16:10 < coob> xfs
16:11 < coob> or you could just use avisplit
16:11 < coob> to split the video into chunks
16:11 < aegray> ok
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16:12 < Cippo> wow, loads of people here :D
16:12 < coob> i think it's part of transcode
16:12 < coob> at least, avimerge is
16:13 < aegray> avisplit -i file.avi -s 1900 ?
16:13 < coob> dunno not got it installed
16:13 < aegray> k
16:14 < aegray> gonna have to make something to load a movie descriptor file which holds each chunk
16:14 < aegray> or implement compression
16:14 < aegray> but thats just crazy
16:14 < aegray> who would want to do that?
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16:15 < coob> i was just about to have a go at implimenting simple lzo compression
16:15 < coob> well, decompression
16:15 < aegray> nice
16:15 < coob> just lzop'ing the whole file
16:15 < voldern> Faulty: There?
16:15 < coob> and reading it in with lzo_fread
16:15 < aegray> ah - that would be pretty good
16:16 < aegray> easy to implement to i'm guessing
16:16 < coob> yeah, no low level fram decompression to worry about
16:16 < coob> yar.
16:16 < coob> although nothing would beat proper video compression heh
16:16 < aegray> true
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16:17 < aegray> i'm thinking that mplayer has the libavcodec
16:17 < aegray> and i'm going to look at how those are implemente
16:17 < aegray> d
16:17 < aegray> maybe i can use the same thing (although floats scare me)
16:17 < aegray> baha "Welcome to 1982.
16:17 < aegray> "
16:17 < aegray> avisplit sucks
16:17 < aegray> it segfaulted
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16:19 < coob> lol
16:19 < coob> on a 2bpp conv one
16:19 < coob> or a photo one?
16:19 < aegray> photo
16:19 < aegray> = shouldn't happen
16:19 < coob> lol. i wonder if mencoder can split
16:19 < coob> i don't see why not, it does everything else...
16:21 < coob> hm nope
16:22 < voldern> I know im not supposed to ask, but can anybody pleas guide me throug installing the Kernel, im finished with the partitioning.
16:22 < voldern> on a 4g
16:23 < Cippo> voldern, have you compiled the ipodloader?
16:23 < aegray> love how i'm supposed to be working and i'm doing this
16:23 < voldern> No, some on said i need to use cvs. But i tried and didnt figure it out.
16:23 < aegray> firing here i come
16:23 < aegray> are you on windows or linux?
16:23 < aegray> or mac
16:23 < voldern> linux
16:24 < aegray> did you check out all the code?
16:24 < Cippo> http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building
16:24 < Cippo> http://ipodlinux.org/CVS
16:24 < aegray> and there you go
16:24 < coob> someone other than me is a wikibot
16:24 < coob> hooray.
16:24  * aegray loves people who read the wiki
16:24 < Cippo> hehe, just compiled the kernel myself :)
16:24 < Cippo> not sure if i'll install it though...
16:25 < voldern> I read the CVS part of the wiki but didnt figure ut out. But il try reading the Kernel Building.
16:25 < voldern> Thanks
16:25 < aegray> did you do a cvs checkout yet ? do you have to cod on your sys now?
16:26 < voldern> I didnt undestand anything of the cvs stuff. Didnt download anything.
16:26 < aegray> do
16:26 < aegray> export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux
16:26 < aegray> cvs login
16:26 < aegray> enter at password
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16:27 < aegray> then cvs -z3 checkout -P tools/ipodloader
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16:27 < voldern> Thanks :)
16:27 < aegray> yep - thats all on the cvs page
16:31 < Cippo> aegray, are you one of the devs?
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16:31 < coob> yes
16:32 < Cippo> i just must say im impressed.... never seen a cooler project in years :)
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16:38 < joshk> aegray: any luck disassembling the firmware?
16:38 < aegray> not yet
16:39 < joshk> is it possible to disassemble it as-is?
16:40 < joshk> i was looking at it last night and it looked like it wasn't too coherent
16:40 < aegray> i think its encrypted
16:40 < aegray> but theres code somewhere in there that enencrypts it
16:41 < joshk> heh
16:41 < joshk> well you're the manm
16:42 < aegray> berns the man
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16:58 < Thunder_3k1> hallo
16:58 < Thunder_3k1> hello
16:58 < Cippo> hallois
16:58 < coob> aegray i have to leave soon, i was wrong about lzo_fred/write :/ it's a little more complicated, but not too much so
16:59 < coob> grab the lzo source
16:59 < coob> and check out example/lpack.c
16:59 < aegray> ok
16:59 < aegray> lzop.org?
17:00 < coob> http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzo/
17:01 < aegray> minilzo?
17:01 < aegray> or lzo full
17:02 < Sereroku> apple keynote xD
17:02 < Sereroku> now
17:02 < aegray> ugh loading this firmware into ida takes half an hour
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17:05 < aegray> minilzo it is for now
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17:08 < Sereroku> i got the old iPL installer, can i just install with the new one over the old linux?
17:13 < joshk> aegray: i ran make_fw on it before looking at it
17:13 < joshk> it's full of zeros anyway
17:13 < aegray> ah
17:13 < aegray> whats the make_fw command for that?
17:13 < joshk> it's the one with -e
17:13 < joshk> run it with no arguments and check the help output
17:14 < aegray> whatd you type - whole line?
17:14 < aegray> not feeling like searching
17:14 < aegray> haha
17:14 < joshk> i'm not at home anymore.. don't have the programs handy
17:14 < aegray> k
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17:22 < Cippo> im definetly gonna install ipodlinux. IT GOT INVADERS!! :D
17:22 < Faulteh> hehe i did that 4 tuxchess :)
17:23 < Cippo> :)
17:23 < Faulteh> unfortunately i can't get ipodloader to dual-boot properly with my mini :(
17:23 < Cippo> not?
17:23 < Cippo> i got a linux
17:23 < Cippo> *mini :)
17:23 < joshk> Faulteh: is it a second generation mini?
17:23 < Faulteh> nah it booted linux fine, couldn't boot the old apple os
17:24 < Faulteh> well it's the 4gb one, i think that's 1g mini, got it december last year in .au
17:24 < Faulteh> i'm just waiting for my flatmate to return from .uk he's a gr8 reverse engineer i need his guidance to help much atm
17:26 < aegray> oh god this is hideous
17:26 < aegray> make code gives me garbage code in most places
17:27 < aegray> maybe i loaded it wrong
17:27 < joshk> right
17:27 < joshk> i saw that too...
17:27 < joshk> so don't you have to decrypt it?
17:27 < aegray> what params did you use?
17:27 < aegray> i don't know
17:27 < joshk> i said it was ARM code
17:27 < joshk> and it gave me sorta garbage
17:27 < aegray> and ram section and rom section params?
17:27 < joshk> no
17:27 < BleuLlama> Faulteh: does it say [4gb] on the back?
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17:29 < smacmac_> MacOSX 10.5 Leopard!!!
17:29 < Faulteh> no just the serial number and stuff, no 4gb anywhere
17:29 < aegray> excellent
17:30 < BleuLlama> cool.  yeah. that's a first gen Mini.
17:31 < Cippo> doesnt the 2g mini have other colors on the keys too?
17:31 < BleuLlama> yeah. color is deeper on the case and buttons
17:31 < BleuLlama> and there's no gold colored 2ndgen mini
17:31 < BleuLlama> but the silver mini, for example, looks the same.
17:31 < BleuLlama> buttons are silver, like the old one.
17:34 < Cippo> ok
17:35 < Sereroku> BOOLEAN_MENU <- where is it defined?
17:35 < smacmac_> BleuLlama. On your User: page you say you have a iPod 1g 10GB. Isn't that impossible?
17:35 < courtc> mlist.h
17:35 < Sereroku> k
17:35 < Faulteh> sweet
17:36 < Faulteh> damn this buggy dsl modem!
17:37 < aegray> reboot
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17:38 < Sereroku> what's the world clock in podzilla for?
17:38 < ssteve> apple is officially switching to intel
17:39 < Sereroku> damn
17:39 < Sereroku> but when they're faster it's ok -.-
17:41 < BleuLlama> um. no.
17:41 < BleuLlama> it's not impossible. i have it
17:42 < BleuLlama> first gen hardware came out in 5, 10 and 15 gig models, i believe
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17:48 < Sereroku> how should i call the German Podzilla? ^^
17:48 < aegray> with a phone
17:48 < courtc> what?
17:48 < aegray> (oh god)
17:48 < Sereroku> na
17:48 < Sereroku> a name
17:48 < Sereroku> ^^
17:48 < joshk> Pödzilla
17:49 < Sereroku> lol
17:49 < Sereroku> nö
17:49 < Sereroku> ^^
17:49 < courtc> call it podzilla
17:49 < Sereroku> -.-
17:49 < Sereroku> no
17:49 < Sereroku> it needs a special name rofl
17:49 < Sereroku> ^^
17:49 < joshk> Sauerkraut
17:49 < Sereroku> ROFL
17:49 < Sereroku> xD
17:49 < courtc> why don't you wait until i18n is finished
17:50 < Sereroku> Pod "Sauerkraut" Zilla
17:50 < BleuLlama> podzilla_de
17:50 < Sereroku> ah no
17:50 < Sereroku> ^^
17:50 < Sereroku> i like Pod "Sauerkraut" Zilla
17:50 < Sereroku> :)
17:50 < aegray> the podzilla_de has a nice ring to it
17:50 < aegray> really makes me think
17:50 < Sereroku> or, Podzilla, Sauerkraut Edition
17:50 < aegray> wow - podzilla in german
17:51 < Sereroku> DEPodzilla
17:51 < Sereroku> ah ok i take podzilla_de
17:51 < Sereroku> ^^
17:52 < joshk> all the germans are calling things 'moin' nowadays
17:52 < joshk> moinzilla
17:52 < Sereroku> ^^
17:53 < Sereroku> Tachzilla
17:53 < Sereroku> Sauerkrautzilla rulez xD
17:53 < courtc> i18n
17:53 < Thunder_3k1> BraunZilla
17:53 < Sereroku> -.-
17:53 < Sereroku> nö
17:53 < BleuLlama> Meinzilla
17:53 < Thunder_3k1> spaĂź beiseite
17:53 < joshk> Fuhrerzilla
17:54 < BleuLlama> joshk - we're on the same wavelength
17:54 < Sereroku> no joshk
17:54 < aegray> haha
17:54 < Sereroku> Nazilla?
17:54 < Sereroku> ^^
17:54 < Thunder_3k1> thats not funny
17:54 < Sereroku> it is
17:54 < Sereroku> :P
17:54 < joshk> BleuLlama: ICanWalkZilla
17:54 < Thunder_3k1> neim Mietz
17:54 < Thunder_3k1> nein
17:54 < Sereroku> lol
17:55 < Thunder_3k1> sag mal wo is eigentlich der KDE
17:55 < BleuLlama> Musikkasten-Men|system-zilla
17:55 < Thunder_3k1> MAN T-Online macht schon wieder ends den scheis
17:55 < Thunder_3k1> mein internet ist genau so schnel wie vohr Hundert Jahren
17:56 < aegray>  #ipodlinux.de
17:56 < Thunder_3k1> OK
17:56 < Sereroku> DDRZilla
17:56 < Sereroku> the version for the east germans xD
17:57 < Thunder_3k1> WOZilla
17:57 < BleuLlama> no
17:57 < BleuLlama> and i see "DDR" and think "Dance Dance Revolution"...
17:57 < BleuLlama> hehe
17:57 < aegray> i thought thats what it was
17:57 < aegray> what is it really?
17:57 < Sereroku> lol
17:57 < Thunder_3k1> DE ZILLA
17:57 < Sereroku> DDR is deutsch demokratische republik
17:58 < Sereroku> ^^
17:58 < BleuLlama> well, there's dual dataport ram (is that right?)  and deutsch um... yeah.
17:58 < Thunder_3k1> GERMANY ROX
17:59 < BleuLlama> a lot of good music came from Germany
17:59 < BleuLlama> and 1/4 of my ancestors. ;)
17:59  * BleuLlama is 1/4 german, 1/4 Austrian, 1/2 Russian
17:59 < BleuLlama> iirc
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18:00 < voldern> This is a 4g question, im finished compiling my own kernel. I have come to the part of installing the userland. Should i just follow the standar instructions found at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux?
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18:02 < Thunder_3k1> Does anybody knows Die Totenhosen
18:03 < aegray> yea
18:03 < aegray> good guy
18:03 < aegray> played football with him in high school
18:03 < aegray> yes follow those intsructions
18:03 < Thunder_3k1> It is a Group
18:04 < aegray> oh
18:04 < Thunder_3k1> -.-
18:04 < Thunder_3k1> ^-^
18:05 < _matt_> Just to report, got video working on my Mini, its great
18:05 < BleuLlama> i played with that group in high school football.  good people.
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18:05 < aegray> nice
18:05 < aegray> haha
18:05 < BleuLlama> ;)
18:06 < aegray> fix it right - i played ipod with that ipod group in ipod high school
18:06 < aegray> gotta keep with the topic
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18:08 < Sereroku> so my Podzilla got the Name Sauerkrautzilla and its the CVS Podzilla + Text Input + German Translation =)
18:09 < voldern> For 4g, should i just use the standar ipod_fs_040403.tar.gz file?
18:09 < Thunder_3k1> Gut gemacht
18:09 < aegray> sure
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18:11 < voldern> It every body in here german?
18:12 < Thunder_3k1> ja
18:12 < leachbj> nein
18:12 < _matt_> nein
18:12 < BleuLlama> no
18:12 < BleuLlama> #ipodlinux.de for german
18:12 < Thunder_3k1> there are only 3 users with me
18:14 < voldern> ok ^^
18:14 < Sereroku> he's talking shit -.-
18:14 < Thunder_3k1> danke
18:14 < Sereroku> so
18:14 < Sereroku> i'll upload SauerkrautZilla now :]
18:15 < courtc> *sigh
18:16 < leachbj> i want klingonzilla!
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18:16  * courtc gets back to work on i18n before we have 30 *zillas
18:16 < Sereroku> we could do a france podzilla -> Frog-Zilla
18:16 < Sereroku> ^^
18:17 < Thunder_3k1> LOL
18:17 < Sereroku> il8n? ^^
18:17 < courtc> internationalization
18:17 < Sereroku> http://web14.server-koalition.de/ipodlinux/sauerkrautzilla
18:18 < Bi_noix> I do like frogs
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18:19 < Sereroku> to eat?
18:20 < Thunder_3k1> i like brids
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18:22 < voldern> At my last question i got a yes, but was it to me. I got lost because of all that german talk.
18:23 < courtc> standerd userland is fine.
18:23 < courtc> you will need to update podzilla though.
18:28 < voldern> ok
18:28 < voldern> Shuld i use the latest podzilla from here: http://ipodlinux.org/builds/
18:29 < courtc> sure
18:34 < Bi_noix> Sereroku: yes
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18:36 < Sereroku> bah
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18:43 < Bi_noix> :)
18:49 < voldern> Wee linux on my 4G ipod, thank guys!
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18:56 < Sereroku> lol
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19:49 < wendt> is jay711 on right now under a different name?
19:50 < wendt> i guess not...
19:52 < haunted_i> Come with me if you want to live
19:54 < wendt> who is that directed at?
19:54 < haunted_i> lol
19:54  * haunted_i just wanted to say it
19:55 < wendt> roflmfao... not.
19:57 < wendt> has anyone seen jay711 here recently?
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20:21 < ewise> got a 3g 40gig ipod, getting podzilla respawning, attempt to access beyond end of disk
20:21 < ewise> is my partition table screwed?
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20:22 < jonrelay> make sure podzilla is marked executable
20:22 < ewise> thanks, done that, double checked it
20:23 < ewise> it also says that bin/inetd is respawning too fast
20:24 < ewise> just sitting there draining the battery, but it was nice to see tux
20:24 < jonrelay> reset it, then try reinstalling linux
20:26 < ewise> so, redo the partition table, ie restore it from the backup, then recreate 1 and 3.
20:27 < ewise> that's what somebody i found in the forums did.
20:27 < jonrelay> You don't need to redo all the partitioning, just the part where you copy the files onto there.
20:28 < ewise> i already did that, starting with an fdisk and delete of partition 3 user land, mke2fs -j, etc etc.
20:28 < jonrelay> Although you could if you wanted to make really sure.
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20:46 < xandos> wtf is this about x86 macs?
20:49 < aegray> apple going with intel chips
20:49 < aegray> read slashdot
20:49 < Bi_noix> :'(
20:49 < xandos> yeah, thats what i read
20:49 < xandos> i really don't want to belive it though.
20:50 < Bi_noix> at least I'll own one of the fastests PPC Macs for a while...
20:50 < xandos> so i shouldn't buy a new mac now, huh?
20:50 < Bi_noix> why not ?
20:50 < Bi_noix> it's better now than in one year
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20:50 < Oliverro> hello
20:51 < xandos> i guess
20:51 < xandos> hi
20:51 < Oliverro> i'm trying to see a video on my ipod but it says : loading video and after 2 min... nothing
20:51 < Bi_noix> a new mac bought now would last 2 years easily...
20:51 < xandos> i'm worried about software
20:51 < OLwork> You think Mac with Intel's will be the first Palladium-platform out there?
20:52 < OLwork> The thought almost makes me puke, no kidding
20:52 < Bi_noix> :X
20:52 < aegray> oliverro you didn't install a kernel with video support probably
20:52 < Oliverro> i just make a cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co -d podzilla tools/podzilla
20:52 < Oliverro> in my project
20:53 < Oliverro> and compiled it
20:53 < aegray> you have to update the kernel too
20:54 < Oliverro> how?
20:54 < xandos> why isn't this mentioned on apple's site? or is it and i've missed it?
20:54 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Player
20:54 < OLwork> xandos: developer.apple.com
20:54 < OLwork> Of course they won't mention the DRM-crippling
20:54 < aegray> whats that?
20:54 < OLwork> They'll sneak it in, that's the whole idea!
20:55 < OLwork> http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,67749,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
20:56 < aegray> shit
20:56 < xandos> i am not a fan of this, but oh well.
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21:10 < joshk> grar
21:10 < aegray> hi
21:11 < theq> hi every-body
21:11 < jonrelay> Hi!
21:11 < theq> i have a couple Q's
21:11 < theq> :P
21:11 < aegray> Q's?
21:11 < aegray> ask away
21:11 < theq> quations
21:11 < theq> sorry about my spelling
21:11 < aegray> its like questions and quotations
21:11 < theq> I'm 12
21:11 < aegray> so am i!
21:11 < theq> sweet
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21:12 < theq> ok so i have an ipod
21:12 < theq> and i want linux on it
21:12 < theq> but...
21:12 < theq> i em on freebsd
21:12 < theq> so how would i go about it exactly
21:12 < theq> ?
21:13 < aegray> use linux directions i think
21:13 < theq> is it possible
21:13 < theq> ok
21:13 < theq> thanx
21:13 < theq> and
21:13 < aegray> yep
21:13 < theq> ...
21:13  * theq is thinking
21:13 < theq> oh
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21:14 < theq> when linux is installed on my ipod
21:14 < theq> does my ipod act like a portible hard drive
21:14 < aegray> ipod is a portable hard drive
21:14 < aegray> but you'd have to reset it
21:14 < aegray> with the right key combo
21:14 < aegray> to get it into disk mode
21:14 < theq> like do i orginize my music in like folders
21:15 < aegray> you can still use itunes
21:15 < theq> yah
21:15 < theq> with the mac os
21:15  * theq wonders what key combo?
21:15 < BleuLlama> as long as you don't move your music on it
21:15 < aegray> what gen ipod?
21:16 < theq> oh
21:16 < BleuLlama> (leave it in the ipod_control directory)
21:16 < theq> ahhhhh
21:16 < theq> thanks
21:16 < BleuLlama> podzilla can access stuff through the itunesdb
21:16 < BleuLlama> and obviously, things like .ogg and .mod aren't in there. so use the file browser, etc.
21:16 < theq> but is it like folders with in folders
21:17 < BleuLlama> look at it.  you'll see
21:17 < aegray> they have F00-F19 and a hashing system
21:17 < theq> cuz that really bugged me on my ipod that i cant orginize my music like in folders
21:17 < BleuLlama> filenames are somewhat preserved though.
21:17 < theq> :(
21:17 < jonrelay> F00-F49 on mine
21:18 < aegray> wow
21:18 < BleuLlama> then get a different player.  you're not supposed to look at the files, you're supposed to use the database interface.
21:18 < theq> thanx you guys
21:18 < theq> L)
21:18 < theq> :)
21:18 < theq> woops
21:18  * theq is off to install
21:19 < theq> one more Q
21:19 < courtc> one more A
21:19 < theq> when is dune gowing to be ready for ipod
21:19 < theq> ?
21:19 < aegray> dune?
21:19 < theq> anyone who works on it here
21:19 < aegray> doom?
21:19 < theq> yah
21:20 < theq> sorry
21:20 < BleuLlama> never ask a dev when anything will be ready
21:20 < theq> hehe
21:20 < aegray> becuase it makes it take longer
21:20 < theq> yah
21:20 < BleuLlama> at this point, doom has been delayed to november.
21:20 < aegray> i was trying it but i will now purposely stop working on it
21:20 < salgado> so, the only reason for not having ogg/mod in the iTunesDB is because no program support generating ogg entries in the iTunesDB or is there any other problem?
21:21 < aegray> we need a countdown calander with ghost entries to say when it used to be planned for and when its moved back to now
21:21 < BleuLlama> because if those file references are in there, and you sync back up with itunes, things could get screwed up
21:21 < theq> i am a blender  freak  so i get the same anser when i ask that kind of stuff
21:21 < theq> :P
21:21 < jonrelay> iTunes doesn't support ogg's or mod's. That's why.
21:21 < theq> bye all
21:21 < aegray> bye
21:21 < BleuLlama> itunes might look at it, think its corrupt and wipe it on you, etc.
21:22 < salgado> BleuLlama, but if I patch gtkpod to add ogg files to the ipod and write the correct entries in iTunesDB, it should work, no?
21:22 < aegray> just for gtkpod
21:23 < aegray> if you ever took it to itunes - yuck
21:23 < salgado> yeah, *I* don't care about iTunes. :)
21:23 < BleuLlama> dunno.  i don't think the hooks are in place for it in podzilla.  and the first time someone tries to sync it with itunes, and loses all of their music, they'll complain to us.
21:23 < thick_> aegray - what are the possibilies of a visualizer for the iPods? If there is video support on the Photo, is a visualizer an
21:23 < BleuLlama> yeah, well, *i* do.
21:23 < salgado> maybe if I do this, I'd be the only one using it. but I really want to see all my music files in the same library
21:24 < thick_> *easy* addition?
21:24 < aegray> not easy - but possible.  but theres other more important stuff to work on like getting music working great in the first place
21:24 < BleuLlama> exactly
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21:24 < courtc> load up an itunesdb with ogg in the apple fw? ugh.
21:25 < salgado> I could also hack podzilla so it reads another database, with the ogg files only
21:25 < thick_> aegray - very understandable. Just thinking about a future addition. Thanks again for everything.
21:25 < BleuLlama> yeah. who knows how apple firmware would deal with it too.  i imagine it would crash it...
21:25 < BleuLlama> since the ipod assumes the db is golden, generated only by itunes
21:25 < salgado> iTunes would never know about this database. the problem is the dbid thing, that I'd have to keep in sync between both databases
21:26 < courtc> salgado, don't warry about it for the moment, we'll have a database munger soon enough..
21:26 < aegray> mpd mpd!
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21:26 < courtc> :)
21:26 < salgado> courtc, database munger? what's it?
21:27 < aegray> something to handle both databases
21:27 < aegray> and make it look transparent to user
21:27 < courtc> including drag'n drop ability :)
21:27 < aegray> yay!
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21:28 < BleuLlama> boo.  that's not the linux way. that sounds way too easy.
21:28 < BleuLlama> ;)
21:28 < aegray> we'll make it so you have to program a shell script to move the file for you
21:28 < BleuLlama> YAY
21:28 < aegray> if mouse is used it will crash
21:28 < courtc> for linuxies we call it 'cp ability'
21:28 < BleuLlama> and i'll write an OS X app that generates the shell script for me
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21:38 < Fanfoue> hi
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21:51 < Luke> hey all
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22:02 < jonrelay> Is it usually this quiet?
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22:03 < aegray> yes - Luke did a mode +q on most of the people in here
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22:09 < psilocyibn> sup
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22:16 < davidc__> aegray - did he really?
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22:16 < aegray> hes crazy with power
22:16 < aegray> someone needs to stop hime
22:16 < aegray> (no)
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22:17 < davidc__> aegray: well, knowing luke, its completely plausible. :P
22:17 < aegray> hah
22:17 < Daishi> i see a sound.c near video.c is there sound now?
22:18 < Daishi> erm audio.c
22:18 < aegray> yes
22:18 < aegray> oh wait
22:18 < aegray> for video or in general?
22:18 < Daishi> video
22:18 < davidc__> no.
22:18 < aegray> not yet
22:18 < davidc__> audio.c contains the kernel audio drivers.
22:19 < davidc__> I assume you're talking about the one in mach-ipod?
22:19 < Daishi> ye
22:19 < Daishi> a
22:19 < aegray> thats audio.c for regular audio
22:19 < aegray> any audio code will probably be in podzilla
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22:19 < Daishi> anyways im going to look at how mplayer does its rgb and bgr encoding try and hack up a brg one
22:20 < aegray> i have some code if you want that
22:20 < leachbj> how about a bfg one?
22:20 < Daishi> oo
22:20 < Daishi> cool
22:20 < aegray> bfg?
22:20 < aegray> brg?
22:20 < Daishi> big friendly giant?
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22:20 < leachbj> doom
22:20 < Daishi> oo
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22:20 < Daishi> the gun
22:20 < leachbj> bfg9000 ;)
22:23 < courtc> Translator? any language is fine
22:23 < psilocyibn> what up aegray
22:23 < aegray> hi
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22:26 < thick_> I miss the BFG9000, and my iddqd and idkfa modes. I want to be god
22:27 < leachbj> idkfa... there's something I haven't done in a while!
22:28 < courtc> idspispopd ;)
22:29 < leachbj> better get typing support in podzilla for when doom is ported ;)
22:30 < coob> iddqd :)_
22:30 < coob> courtc was that no clipping?
22:30 < courtc> yup
22:32 < courtc> speaking of translating, who wants to?
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22:42 < MikeRS> I've got a second album that does that black-out text <_<
22:42 < MikeRS> The Chase by Garth Brooks.... seems like if a song has parenthesis, the next set of the list gets buggered up
22:43 < MikeRS> at least, that's most I can infer
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22:45 < jonrelay> Songs with parentheses don't do anything weird on my iPod.
22:45 < MikeRS> what gen are you doing it on?
22:46 < courtc> there should be no reason that a string would mess up another.
22:46 < jonrelay> Me? 3g
22:46 < MikeRS> yeah... but I'm going to test it by removing the parens
22:48 < MikeRS> no, having them gone doesn't make a difference
22:48 < MikeRS> so I'm out of ideas ._.
22:48 < aegray> you give up too easy
22:49 < MikeRS> and jonrelay, I'm on a 4g, so it may be specific to that
22:49 < MikeRS> and probably
22:49 < MikeRS> but I can't think of any other similarities between the two albums that makes the problem specific to them
22:49 < aegray> both suck?
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22:49 < aegray> oh jk
22:49 < MikeRS> does it have problems with large databases?
22:50 < MikeRS> there's about 10GB of music on it
22:52 < MikeRS> dammit apple ._. why can't your OS remember the clicker setting?
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23:03 < Cam_> the wiki files explaining how to build podzilla for the desktop is obsolete....could someone explain what i need to do to build podzilla on os x?
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23:23 < aegray> power rage is over
23:23 < aegray> (tehe)
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23:45 < Daishi> alright it seems that no matter what combination of colors rgb, rbg, gbr. grb, bgr, brg the video comes out all psychadelic
23:45 < jonrelay> Maybe there's an alpha channel we're not considering?
23:46 < Daishi> bgr seems to be the closest
23:47 < Daishi> and brg
23:47 < Daishi> seems that b is the right color
23:47 < Daishi> g and r however dont seem to be
23:47 < Daishi> odd
23:48 < courtc> cymk ;)
23:48 < Daishi> you think the ipod is in cmyk?
23:48 < jonrelay> Maybe r and g are at different positions than we're used to.
23:48 < Daishi> could be
23:49 < courtc> haha what?
23:49 < Daishi> i have no idea though really
23:50 < Daishi> all i know is that b?? plays color closest to the original
23:51 < jonrelay> Try to isolate each channel individually.
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23:52 < jonrelay> If only I had an iPod photo. :P
23:53 < Daishi> isolate individually?
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23:55 < coob>  why would there be an alpha channel on an lcd
23:55 < jonrelay> Try to get a screen of all red, all green, all blue, all yellow, all cyan...
23:55 < coob> it may be big endian instead of little endian, though that makes no sense.
23:55 < jonrelay> Well, it wouldn't be *used* for anything. It would just be a blank spot.
23:55 < jonrelay> (the alpha channel)
23:56 < courtc> err...
23:57 < Daishi> oo and btw thats when i change the channels from rgb > bgr and brg
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23:58 < jonrelay> How wide is each channel? 8 bits?
23:58 < coob> 565
23:59 < courtc> (or 555)
23:59 < jonrelay> I see. So there wouldn't be an alpha channel. Nevermind then.
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