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00:28 < Capso> Alright.
00:31 < Capso> Crap.
00:31 < Capso> Not working.
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00:41 < Capso> Any Devs in here?
00:42 < BleuLlama> nope
00:43 < Capso> BleuLlama: Are you an iPod Dev (I'm thinking that "nope" was sarcasm)?
00:44 < BleuLlama> podzilla, yeah
00:44  * tanq is still doing the happy dance
00:44 < BleuLlama> although i suppose i have dev access to the kernel cvs too. hmm
00:44 < tanq> nothing like saving a $400 headache
00:45 < BleuLlama> i dunno.  i'm not a systems/kernel programmer kind of guy
00:45 < BleuLlama> i'm more of an applications kind of programmer
00:45 < tanq> I'm a groupie
00:45 < tanq> s/ie/y
00:46 < Capso> BleuLlama: Well, I'm supposedly testing for you guys for iPodLinux on iPod Mini 2nd Gen... shows a Folder with an exclamation point in a triangle when I try to boot it... so, anything you want me to try?
00:46 < Capso> BleuLlama: Any different combos of things, anything?
00:46 < BleuLlama> dunno.  talk with whomever said you were testing for them
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00:47 < Capso> /etc/rc defines what the iPod should do when it Boots, right?
00:48 < tanq> yeah
00:48 < tanq> well more like that will run when the ipod boots
00:48 < Capso> Yea... the Tux Logo should come up before, right?
00:49 < Capso> What happens before the /etc/rc is taken into consideration by the iPod?
00:49 < BleuLlama> tux logo comes up from the firmware, before kernel boot
00:49 < BleuLlama> s
00:50 < tanq> man i'd like to use this again but i'm afraid that if i repartition this thing that it will crash again
00:50 < tanq> s/use this/use ipl/
00:50 < tanq> i still dont know how 3 weeks baking in my car fixed it
00:51 < tanq> heh
00:51 < Capso> BleuLlama: Heh, yea... not even the Tux Logo is coming up.
00:51 < Capso> The Apple Logo comes up...
00:51 < Capso> Then goes to the folder with exclamation point.
00:51 < BleuLlama> sounds like the bootloader is messed up.
00:52 < Capso> It's a CVS.
00:52 < BleuLlama> if you're not an ARM hacker, i think your only solution is to uninstall ipodlinux
00:52 < BleuLlama> i don't think there's anything that can be done
00:52 < Capso> Different version of iPodLoader?
00:53 < BleuLlama> yeah. i dunno if the cvs bootloader is even working properly for mini2
00:54 < BleuLlama> my guess is that the patch applied by make_fw or whatever it's called doesn't apply to the right place in mini2 firmware
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02:07 < corpix> anyone here ?
02:07 < corpix> what tools for copying music do you use ?
02:09 < Capso> Huh... it actually is possible to replace the batter for an iPod.
02:09 < Capso> You just have to open it up and change the lithium ion battery.
02:10 < BleuLlama> i use itunes, and yes, you can replace the battery: http://www.newertech.com/
02:10 < BleuLlama> my 1g has a high capacity battery - i get about 22 hours of real use on a charge
02:11 < corpix> does itunes run with cedega/wine ?
02:11 < BleuLlama> dunno. i don't use linux on any desktop systems
02:12 < Capso> BleuLlama: What do you use?
02:12 < Capso> Corpix: Wine can't even handle the newer mIRCs.
02:13 < BleuLlama> what do you mean, what do i use?
02:13 < Capso> OS.
02:14 < BleuLlama> OS X on this machine, Win 98 on my current pc desktop, soon to be XP Pro, Solaris at work
02:14 < BleuLlama> but os x on the machine i use most frequently (my main machine)
02:15 < Capso> Hm.
02:15 < BleuLlama> i do run yellowdog linux on my personal webserver and personal CVS repository machine though
02:15 < Capso> Alright.
02:15 < BleuLlama> but hopefully i'll be replacing that machine (PowerMacintosh 7600AV) with a G4 Cube soon
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02:16 < corpix> is it safe to ask how ipodlinux 4th gen. development is going ?
02:16 < Capso> Yep... and I gotta learn ARM ASM Programming.
02:16 < akidan> howdy
02:16 < BleuLlama> no
02:16 < zhixel> is it... safe?
02:16 < akidan> i think there's a 4g status page
02:16 < zhixel> is it SAFE?
02:17 < zhixel> is.. it... safe?
02:17 < akidan> http://ipodlinux.org/4g
02:17  * BleuLlama performs oral surgery on zhixel
02:17 < corpix> thanks
02:17 < akidan> no prob
02:17 < zhixel> nyeaaaaaagh
02:17 < BleuLlama> i should really see that.
02:17 < akidan> the status page?
02:17 < BleuLlama> the film
02:18 < akidan> ahh
02:18 < akidan> does the PP5020 actually decode mp3s?
02:18 < corpix> no
02:18 < akidan> or does it just provide the processing power to?
02:18 < corpix> (according to that link)
02:19 < akidan> ahh ok
02:19 < corpix> <<So far basic playback of wav files seems to be working well but MP3 and AAC are defintely not real-time since the CPU is not running at full speed.
02:19 < corpix> >>
02:19 < akidan> thx
02:19 < akidan> yeah i was just wondering if mp3 decoding was compiled in or was done using onboard stuff
02:20 < corpix> but one question: how are you guys able to make it record music ? i mean ... there's not input ...
02:20 < akidan> corpix: hehe, but there is
02:20 < akidan> the headphone jack isn't just a headphone jack..
02:20 < corpix> ;)
02:21 < akidan> *looks for linkage*
02:21 < corpix> there are some more "contacts" right beside that jack
02:21 < akidan> yeah
02:21 < corpix> whats that ?
02:21 < BleuLlama> those contacts are power and serial.
02:21 < akidan> my silly way of saying i was gonna google results
02:22 < akidan> there are more contacts beneath the standard three on headphone jacks
02:22 < akidan> iirc
02:22 < BleuLlama> nope.  well, photo has a 4th conductor, for composite out, iirc
02:23 < corpix> hmm, what is apple's reaction to you guys, turning their shit into gold ?
02:24 < BleuLlama> okay. first of all, their stuff isn't "shit".
02:24 < BleuLlama> if it was "shit" you wouldn't have that ipod in your hand, would you?
02:25 < corpix> this was just a picture
02:25 < BleuLlama> and secondly, as long as we're not breaching any NDAs, i doubt they care.
02:26 < corpix> compared to all the features i see for old ipods, it _could_ be seen as "turning shit into gold"
02:26 < akidan> bluellama, i'm talking about the one you can see in http://image.compusa.com/prodimages/28/7cb3d1e2-5e7b-4356-8a9a-3be994a7bf83.gif
02:26 < BleuLlama> but it's not shit.
02:26 < akidan> that extra connector past the one on stereo headphone jacks
02:26 < corpix> yeah, your' right
02:27 < corpix> it's little expensive, but definately not shit
02:27 < corpix> ;)
02:27 < akidan> http://www.go-gadget-go.com/prodimages/italk.jpg shows it a little better i guess
02:27 < BleuLlama> yes. that's the power and serial pins.  look on the wiki... it's well documented there.
02:28 < akidan> no, not the connector to the side of it
02:28 < BleuLlama> the headphone jack is just a standard 4 conductor 1/8"
02:29 < akidan> yeah, but most headphones use three conductors
02:32 < BleuLlama> didn't i say something up there about video output on the 4th conductor?
02:33 < BleuLlama> microphone input is via the "left" channel of the headphone (the tip)
02:33 < akidan> odd
02:34 < corpix> doesn't that mean input is in mono only ?
02:34 < Capso> BleuLlama: Know what it means when a picture of an iPod comes on with an exclamation point?
02:35 < BleuLlama> it means the firmware/bootloader is probably fucked.  just uninstall like i suggested a few hours ago, and wait for someone to port and support it for mini2.
02:35 < BleuLlama> do you all just type in here, or do you read what other people write too?
02:35 < Capso> Nah... I'mma just keep fiddling prolly.
02:36 < Capso> I read what you said.
02:36 < Capso> It's a matter of choosing to apply it or not.
02:36 < BleuLlama> well, nothing is going to change -- it's just going to sit there, being unable to use.
02:36 < Capso> Okay, then... I'm still gonna try a couple things.
02:37 < BleuLlama> whatever.  i'm out.  later.
02:40 < akidan> bleullama, it might be used for video out on ipod photos, but not on 3g ipods.. it's for the mic
02:41 < akidan> *shrug* anywho, bye. :P
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08:50 < t0mas> lo
08:53 < smacmac> !
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11:24 < DeathRose> ok now im very confused
11:25 < DeathRose> im in the process of trying tobuild podzilla for the desktop
11:25 < DeathRose> im a complete n00b
11:25 < DeathRose> i have not really got anywhere
11:26 < DeathRose> how do i open a terminal in xp?
11:27 < DeathRose> is it cmd?
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11:31 < DeathRose> ah fuck it
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14:45 < Epix> hi. since iPodLinux is uClinux modded, can all programs that run on uClinux run on iPodLinux?
14:46 < coob> um anything that will run on an arm7tdmi and is non hardware specific yes.
14:46 < Epix> ok...
14:46 < Epix> i hope there is a copy of perl, python or ruby for the arm7tdmi
14:47 < coob> why?
14:47 < Epix> think of what that would let you do?
14:47 < Epix> s/?/.
14:47 < coob> ? i can do whatever i want with C already.
14:47 < Epix> really? how do you compile for the ipodmini
14:48 < Epix> im learning C
14:48 < coob> read the wiki.
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14:48 < Epix_> stupid wifi
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14:49 < epix> holy crap...
14:56 < epix> ok
14:56 < epix> i looked at the keycodes. can i get them using getch?
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15:02 < coob> see the wiki entry on modifying podzilla
15:06 < MaDsKiLLz> hmm
15:06 < MaDsKiLLz> nightly build doesnt wanna play music for me
15:07 < MaDsKiLLz> on photo
15:07 < coob> need a nightly kernel too.
15:07 < MaDsKiLLz> i have both
15:07 < MaDsKiLLz> there we go
15:08 < MaDsKiLLz> skippy
15:08 < MaDsKiLLz> ;p
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15:09 < MaDsKiLLz> does podzilla have the mp3 decoding builtin, or does it call an external player
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15:11 < coob> built in.
15:12  * MaDsKiLLz changes his init script thingy to nice -n -10 podzilla 
15:12 < coob> that won't do anything.
15:12 < MaDsKiLLz> how come?
15:12 < coob> it just won't.
15:13 < MaDsKiLLz> it should ....
15:13 < MaDsKiLLz> unless its a problem with the audio driver
15:13 < MaDsKiLLz> which i guess it very well could be
15:13 < coob> did you even read the blog
15:14 < MaDsKiLLz> lol the title
15:14 < coob> photo/4g/mini aren't running at full cpu speed yet.
15:16 < MaDsKiLLz> hmm
15:16 < MaDsKiLLz> w/e still pretty cool
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16:24 < skelaton4> hello
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16:32 < OmEgAG> Hi :P
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17:46 < Z_Man> how could i help the development for the 2g mini ipodlinux?  could i do like dumb of the flash, or something like that? i wanna help.
17:47 < Z_Man> flash rom*
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17:52 < Z_Man> was there another terrorist attack? is everyone dead?
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19:58 < Z_Man> sorry about that
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20:04 < Z_Man> god damn...
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22:18 < merol> hey ive got a problem
22:19 < merol> the gui installer does not recognize that i have already installed ipodlinux
22:21 < merol> please can anybody help me
22:21 < merol> ?
22:25 < merol> anyone here?
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22:47 < merol> the gui installer does not recognize that i have already installed ipodlinux
22:48 < merol> please can anybody help me
22:48 < merol> <merol> ?
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