--- Log opened Tue May 24 00:00:03 2005
00:00 < coob> i've heard that before
00:00 < Luke> yea i didnt make it up
00:01 < _Splice> now i kno....
00:03 < Luke> Daishi: seems as tho you were banned...?
00:03 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ
00:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by Luke
00:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b Alienbob113!*@* ] by Luke
00:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b Daishi!*@* ] by Luke
00:04 < coob> aegray: have you any idea where microwindows slows down so much?
00:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@*.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net ] by Luke
00:04 < aegray> for what application? images? drawing?
00:04 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@cpe-069-133-002-130.cinci.rr.com ] by Luke
00:05 < coob> you said you did some benchmarking when initially starting your video stuff
00:05 < aegray> im pretty sure it runs a lot of its own checks on the bits per pixel and format - ie converts to its own format
00:05 < aegray> but other than that i'm not sure
00:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by Luke
00:05 < coob> ah that's probably it
00:05 < aegray> i just know that using microwindows was taking 50% of the time in the entire buffering/drawing process
00:06 < aegray> a little more than that actually
00:06 < coob> its just quite a few potential applications would probably need direct access to the lcd heh
00:06 < coob> your video stuff, a gameboy emu, speccy emu :)
00:06 < aegray> is the gameboy emu on its way?
00:06 < coob> haha no
00:06 < coob> but
00:07 < aegray> i was looking into doing that
00:07 < coob> gnuboy shouldn't be monumentally hard to port
00:07 < coob> hell if rockbox can do it :)
00:07 < BleuLlama> but the big problem will be the same major major problem plagueing the people discussing the port of Doom on the forums
00:07 < BleuLlama> what will the buttons do?!?!?!?!
00:07 < aegray> what controls!!!???
00:07 < aegray> hahahah
00:08 < aegray> i'm so sick of that
00:08 < BleuLlama> before you can port, you need to know what the buttons do!!!!
00:08 < BleuLlama> idjuts
00:08 < aegray> really
00:08 < coob> as with the speccy stuff, custom controls for custom roms :)
00:08 < aegray> its not that hard to change controls later
00:08 < _Splice> like wolf3d
00:08 < coob> need a ipod photo with ipod camera connector
00:08 < coob> and a shuffle
00:08 < coob> for extra input :)
00:09 < aegray> haha
00:09 < aegray> lets build a touchscreen adapter
00:09 < coob> lool
00:09 < coob> the iPod DS?
00:09 < aegray> haha
00:09 < _Splice> wait isnt gnuboy a gameboi?
00:09 < coob> gnuboy is a gameboy emu
00:09 < _Splice> yeah
00:10 < _Splice> noway that be cool to have heh
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00:15 < aegray> coob - i still have fiq problems which can mess up audio if audio is open while video is running
00:15 < aegray> but should i submit it like this
00:15 < aegray> or wait?
00:15 < aegray> mess up audio = freeze system if audio is open
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00:23 < courtc> Luke, Daishi should just be +q
00:24 < Luke> yea but if i preface it with the % it should do the same thing
00:24 < Luke> but it looks like my client or the server is stripping the invalid characters
00:24 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-q *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by Luke
00:24 < Luke> that didnt seem to work either
00:24 < Luke> wtf
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00:25 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-q *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by Luke
00:26 < aegray> what does +q or -q mean?
00:26 < Luke> quite
00:26 < Luke> quiet
00:26 < Luke> they just cant talk
00:27 < Luke> looks as if the server parsing is broked though
00:27 < aegray> ok
00:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-q *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by Luke
00:29 < Luke> pff
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00:29 < Luke> guess those people just cant talk anymore =)
00:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke
00:29 < coob> luke, still around?
00:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-q *!*@pool-70-104-177-156.norf.east.verizon.net ] by courtc
00:30 < Luke> yea
00:30 < Luke> whatsup
00:30 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Image_talk:Linux_On_Ipod1.jpg
00:30 < Luke> thanks
00:30 < coob> see those?
00:30 < Luke> yea
00:31 < coob> bern said he'd get round to talking to you/vet about using one of them
00:31 < courtc> humbug
00:31 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by ChanServ
00:31 < Luke> coob: whats he want done?
00:31 < coob> main image changed to one of those i think!
00:32 < Luke> k
00:32 < Luke> i guess he wants the touched up one with reflections?
00:32 < coob> not sure
00:32 < courtc> littlynicky.. get in here!
00:32 < Kate6> I have a question -- the Linux installation instructions say that there's supposed to be a /lib folder that goes with the kernel releases...
00:33 < Kate6> That contains kernel modules...
00:33 < Kate6> Where would I get the modules that correspond with the nightly builds?
00:33 < coob> Kate6: don't need them for 4g stuff
00:33 < coob> 4g/nightlies
00:33 < Kate6> Oh.
00:33 < Kate6> coob: http://www.ipodlinux.org/4g/nightlies ?
00:34 < coob> no
00:34 < coob> sorry
00:34 < coob> don't need them for the 4g/nightly build stuff
00:34 < courtc> um.. just don't worry bout the modules.. they won't work
00:34 < Kate6> Okee dokee.
00:34  * Kate6 continues with the next step.
00:35 < courtc> err..  "podzilla can read .fnt files without any conversion."
00:35 < courtc> well, I hope so.
00:35 < coob> i think he misread there
00:36 < coob> why did i think littlenicky was dutch?
00:36  * coob bangs head against wall
00:38 < coob> i should do a feature matrix type thing for podzilla
00:38 < Luke> courtc: you using irssi?
00:38 < courtc> I want that damn Credits thing
00:39 < coob> man, i took at look at it the other day
00:39 < coob> but
00:39 < coob> it's just so ugly±!
00:39 < courtc> nah, xchat for my friends, Internet Adventurer on OS/2 for enemies
00:40 < courtc> rewrite it :)
00:40  * coob ms comic chat
00:40 < courtc> (thats what I always end up doing :/)
00:40 < coob> yeah, i probably will :/
00:41 < coob> i need ot update the font (i'm not planning on using the new font stuff.... btmaps is quicker i think
00:41 < coob> bitmaps*
00:42 < courtc> likely
00:43 < coob> ouh need a ticket for the calendar too
00:47  * coob bed
00:47 < coob> night
00:47 < courtc> 'night
00:48 < Kate6> !!!
00:48 < Kate6> It's working.
00:48 < Kate6> :)
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00:49 < Kate6> Hmm
00:49 < Kate6> It doesn't see my music files though.
00:50 < courtc> symlink /iPod_Control to /<hda2 mountpoint>/iPod_Control
00:50 < Kate6> Yes I already did that.
00:51 < Kate6> Say, in the installation instructions...
00:51 < Kate6> Where it says what to replace /etc/rc with...
00:51 < Kate6> I couldn't help noticing that the "mkdir /hp" and "mkdir /hp/Recordings" are listed *after* the corresponding mount commands.
00:51 < Kate6> But I followed what it says anyway.
00:51 < Kate6> In the file browser it's not showing anything under /hp now
00:52 < Kate6> Can I assume that was wrong and move the mount commands to go first?
00:52 < courtc> If sometink looks dumb, it probably is. what page are you looking at?
00:52 < Kate6> Errr, the mkdir commands to go first?
00:52 < Kate6> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux
00:52 < courtc> somethink* :/
00:52 < Kate6> This page.
00:52 < courtc> g'damn.. something*
00:52 < Kate6> Didn't want to assume it wasn't some subtlety of you guys' modified kernel.
00:53 < Kate6> When it first started up the contrast was way too high, by the way.
00:53 < courtc> yea, it changes for each revision
00:53 < Kate6> Okee dokee.
00:53 < Kate6> It looks pretty darn neat though.
00:54 < BleuLlama> you have a 4g, kate?
00:54 < Kate6> I got such a kick out of seeing tux on the little screen.  :)
00:54 < courtc> hmm... I'll update that page in a bit.
00:54 < Kate6> BleuLlama: Yeah, 20 gig 4G.
00:54 < BleuLlama> very cool. :)
00:54 < Kate6> BleuLlama: Just got it last week.
00:54 < BleuLlama> glad you got it working.
00:54 < Kate6> Thankyew.  :)
00:55 < BleuLlama> you don't know how many people come in here and are all like "i can't get it to work! help me! waaaah!".  It is very cool to know that you got it in one. ;)
00:55 < Kate6> Well, I did have a few questions that I did ask on here.
00:55 < Kate6> And people answered.
00:56 < BleuLlama> still.  in the time it took me to drive home and eat dinner, you got it done.
00:56 < Kate6> Hah.  :)
00:56 < BleuLlama> there are lots of guys that come in here that day after day are unable to do it on their own.
00:57 < courtc> I think it helps that you have a firm understanding of linux ;)
00:57 < BleuLlama> true
00:57 < BleuLlama> yeah. a lot of them are first time linux/programmer kind of people
00:57 < BleuLlama> good point
00:57 < Kate6> I still remember when using Linux sorta meant that you were someone who *wanted* to understand how stuff works.
00:58 < BleuLlama> i agree
00:58 < Kate6> Not just...  Someone who doesn't want to feel like a Microsoft slave.
00:58 < BleuLlama> er.  "me too". heh
00:59 < courtc> updated..
01:00 < courtc> - modprobes  almost no people use eth over firewire
01:00 < courtc> causes more problems than solutions
01:00 < Kate6> Heh...  You know, I like this font much better than the Apple Firmware one.
01:01 < courtc> oh, and whoever changed it to hp needs a shoe in their mouth.
01:01 < BleuLlama> how about getting serial working, then doing SLIP to get network to it.  run a VNC server on it. ;)
01:01 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Fonts
01:01 < Kate6> What happens if I try to have it play an MP3 file?  It'll be all cut up because of the CPU not being full speed?
01:02 < Kate6> Or will it die a horrible screaming death?
01:02 < Luke> everyone check out the main page and let me know how the new image looks and if it overlaps the CVS info
01:02 < Luke> on the wiki
01:02 < Kate6> "Audio playback is unsupported on this hardware."
01:02 < Kate6> I didn't install the right podzilla.
01:02  * Kate6 feels dumb.
01:02 < Kate6> I downloaded it but didn't install it.
01:03  * Kate6 goes to fix it.
01:03 < BleuLlama> don't forget to +x it
01:03 < Kate6> I did that.  I just...  Installed the latest beta, I think, instead of the latest nightly.
01:03 < courtc> slow, currently we use a single cpu running at ~32mhz (possibly) for decoding
01:03 < Kate6> Thing's got multiple CPU's?
01:04 < courtc> erm.. s/cpu/core
01:04 < Kate6> Oh, okay.
01:04 < Kate6> :)
01:04 < courtc> its got a pp5020 (dual arm7tdmi)
01:05 < Kate6> Gotchya.
01:05 < Kate6> I sorta skimmed through most of the really low-level stuff on you guys' site.
01:05 < Kate6> Figured I should get it to boot first before deciding how deeply interested I wanted to get.
01:06 < courtc> Luke, looks good, but then again I'm using a slightly modded monobook(?) style
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01:08 < Kate6> Okay.
01:08 < Kate6> Yeah.
01:08 < Kate6> That's weird.
01:08 < Kate6> The slow playback.
01:08  * Kate6 grins.
01:08 < Kate6> At least it works though.
01:09 < Kate6> It'll like jump into the correct speed for a second or so then go back to being slow.
01:09 < BleuLlama> probably buffers up some of the song, plays it at full speed, then the buffer empties, and it tries to decode more, slowing it down...  ?
01:10 < Kate6> That would make sense.
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01:25 < Luke> courtc: thats good - it should be style inspecific
01:26 < Luke> courtc: thanks for checking that
01:26 < courtc> np
01:26 < Lumps> ×|CD|back|× I Was Away:|Auto away after 999 Mins| - Duration:|4hrs 10mins 33secs|
01:27 < courtc> wow.. that is alot of information I didn't need to know :/
01:28 < Lumps> yeah
01:28 < Lumps> sorry
01:28 < Lumps> its the stupid script
01:28 < joecool> might as well try to get ipodlinux back on before I nuke the drive (I'm waiting for the box to come)
01:28 < coob> looks wunderbar
01:29  * coob away
01:29 < coob> um
01:29 < joecool> any specific things I can run to self-destruct an ipod for fun?
01:29  * coob not away
01:29 < coob> walked past shower on way upstairs and it woke me up :/
01:29  * courtc thought coob was supposed to be sleeping
01:29 < courtc> heh
01:29 < coob> joecool: running it through a washing machine and hitting the battery with a screwdriver...
01:29  * joecool thought courtc thought coob was supposed to be sleeping 
01:29 < joecool> :P
01:30 < coob> new frontpage pic looks good :D
01:30 < Lumps> lol
01:30 < Lumps> i dropped mine today
01:30 < joecool> coob: how about a very large electromagnet.. or a  night next to a plasma ball
01:30 < Lumps> that god for my 2mm silicone
01:31 < courtc> take a drill to the hd.
01:31 < coob> could pop off the hd's faceplate and scan it
01:32 < coob> scanners are cool, especially with 3d stuff :D
01:32 < joecool> well.. it has to be some type of damage that they can't see "he tried to fuck it up"
01:32 < joecool> its gotta be more like "wow.. that just fucked up bad"
01:32 < BleuLlama> what symptoms did you tell them?
01:33 < coob> hey Luke, instead of all those newlines
01:33 < courtc> "I dunno where that hole came from!"
01:33 < coob> a <br style="clear: right" /> would do the trick
01:33 < joecool> BleuLlama: drive corruption mostly.. that it was overlapping songs and became unresponsive most of the time when sending music
01:33 < coob> (on Main_Page)
01:33 < BleuLlama> aah. right. ok
01:33 < BleuLlama> coob: how about just <br clear="all"/>
01:33 < joecool> BleuLlama: I filled out "repair whole unit"
01:33 < BleuLlama> understood
01:34 < Luke> coob: trying to stay away from html and css in the wiki code
01:34 < courtc> BleuLlama, not xhtml is it?
01:35 < BleuLlama> dunno.  i know it works.
01:35 < courtc> Luke, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit  why?
01:35 < Luke> ??
01:35 < Luke> thats wikipedia...
01:35 < Luke> wrong site mate =p
01:36 < Kate6> Heh OMG a Bust-A-Move clone.
01:36 < courtc> I was trying to point out that the people who work on the engine use alot of html :/
01:36 < Luke> I added it - good thinking coob
01:36 < coob> there's nothing wrong with using html
01:37 < coob> wikicode (?) is just shorthand anyway
01:37 < BleuLlama> Kate: you also have yet to be in awe of my clocks. ;)
01:37 < Lumps> hrm.. guys
01:37 < Luke> yea but consistancy helps when multiple people are working on it
01:37 < coob> BleuLlama: that was one typo away from disaster...
01:37 < BleuLlama> LOL
01:37 < Lumps> anyways to get around the need to plug an ipod mini into the wall adapter when doing an update?
01:37 < courtc> Luke- agreed, but bern, vet and you are the only ones with access?
01:38 < Kate6> BleuLlama: The clock seems to be *wrong*.  :P
01:38 < Jackkhzjd> Are there Apple firmware updates to the 4G iPods? Possibly on their site, or anywhere.
01:38 < BleuLlama> set the time. ;)
01:38 < coob> Jackkhzjd: yep
01:38 < courtc> Kate6, add 'hwclock --hctosys' to your /etc/rc
01:38 < Jackkhzjd> A donde?
01:38 < Lumps> yeah.. so no one knows ehhh
01:38 < Kate6> courtc: Thank you.  :)
01:38 < courtc> mhmm
01:39 < Lumps> hrm.. cause new 2ng gen ipods dont require a wall plug reboot since they have no wall plug bundled
01:39 < Lumps> but what about the 1st gen?
01:39 < Luke> courtc: dont really want to discuss it now - i'm on my way out. Just let it be known that I'm a consistancy and completeness nazi ;-p
01:39 < Luke> afk guys
01:40 < Luke> and if littlenicky shows up let him know i changed the image over and tell him thanks =)
01:40 < Jackkhzjd> coob - I can only find petitions for them.
01:40 < courtc> Luke- heh, I'm a perfectness nazi ;).. Just ignore me..
01:40 < courtc> I need to have some words with littlenicky also :/
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01:41 < Sliverque> hey guys, I'm eager to use the new font loader
01:41 < Sliverque> however, where do I put the fonts?
01:41 < courtc> ipodlinux.org/fonts
01:41 < Sliverque> I looked in the source and tried a few ideas, but no dice...
01:42 < coob> wth Jackkhzjd ?
01:42 < BleuLlama> looks nice
01:42 < Jackkhzjd> No... Apple based.
01:42 < Jackkhzjd> Sorry
01:43 < coob> http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/
01:43 < coob> ^ there
01:43 < Jackkhzjd> Oh... ha. Sorry. I wasted your time...
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02:00 < Daishi> leaving...g'night
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02:01 < courtc> and thats why he was +q :/
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02:21 < coob> ../microwindows/ipod-x11/src//lib/libmwdrivers.a(genfont.o)(.data+0x9c):/root/microwindows/ipod-x11/src/drivers/genfont.c:88: undefined reference to `font_X6x13'
02:21 < coob> :/
02:21 < coob> trying to compile nxdoom for x86
02:21 < courtc> . . .
02:22 < courtc> doom, huh?
02:22 < Sliverque> I thought doom was animated
02:22 < BleuLlama> you're thinking of spongebob
02:22 < Sliverque> ??
02:22 < courtc> rofl
02:23 < Sliverque> I just always thought it was animated
02:23 < BleuLlama> spongebob is animated
02:23 < Sliverque> not that kind
02:23 < Sliverque> of animated
02:23 < BleuLlama> animated like a zombie corpse?
02:23 < joecool> ffs
02:23 < Sliverque> basically I didn't think it would run on the ipod screen
02:23 < joecool> got podzilla back on.. the screen in pitch black
02:23 < Sliverque> maybe animated was the wrong word, but anyway
02:23 < joecool> can't see a goddamn thing
02:24 < Sliverque> I had the opposite problem- it would be pitch white!  :)
02:24 < courtc> src/fonts/X6x13.c ??
02:24 < joecool> eh?
02:24 < coob> its a problem with the link
02:24 < coob> doesn't like -l
02:24 < joecool> oh
02:24 < coob> needs to be given the paths to the libs
02:25 < courtc> you'll figure it out I'm sure ;D
02:25 < Sliverque> argh recompiling the linux kernel takes a long time
02:25 < coob> compiles
02:25 < coob> doesn't run :)
02:25 < joecool> Sliverque: ffs, don't complain
02:25  * courtc will make fun of you when it does
02:25 < Sliverque> ffs?
02:25 < coob> doom: fblin2.c:37: linear2_drawpixel: Assertion `c < psd->ncolors' failed.
02:25 < joecool> for fucks sake
02:25 < Sliverque> that's a weird one
02:25 < Sliverque> what's your proccessor speed?
02:26 < joecool> redeeman on #love-sources got me caught doing it
02:26 < joecool> a 1.7ghz pentium4 willacrap
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02:26 < Sliverque> eat 133MHx
02:26 < Sliverque> *MHz
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02:26 < Sliverque> that's why it's slow
02:26 < joecool> hey.. i decided to do it on my 25mhz 386
02:26 < joecool> that took 2 days
02:26 < coob> haha
02:27 < Sliverque> so you know where I'm coming from
02:27 < BleuLlama> i used to play doom on a 33mhz 486
02:27 < joecool> yeah
02:27 < coob> it runs with the photo x11 stuff
02:27 < coob> but like
02:27 < coob> sideways :)
02:27 < Sliverque> I guess my sparc would take too long...
02:27 < Sliverque> 20MHz just dosn't cut it
02:27 < joecool> ugh my stomach is killin me
02:27 < BleuLlama> one of my freinds has an AT+T 3b1 workstation.  16mhz 68010 processor
02:27 < Sliverque> jeez
02:28 < BleuLlama> it took 27 hours to build Nethack from source
02:28 < BleuLlama> hehe
02:28 < BleuLlama> on my Sun Blade 1000 workstation at work, it took two minites
02:28 < BleuLlama> minutes
02:28 < Sliverque> why don't I go find my mom's apple 800KHz computer?
02:28 < Sliverque> *Sliverque hates BleuLlama
02:29 < joecool> coob: where should I copy that too?
02:29 < BleuLlama> i'm not on that machine right now.
02:29 < coob> copy what
02:29 < BleuLlama> i'm on a 1.67ghz G4 15" powerbook now. (brand new! YAY!)
02:29 < joecool> X6x13.c
02:29 < coob> ?
02:29 < coob> put down the crackpipe
02:29 < coob> what are you on about?
02:29 < joecool> <courtc> src/fonts/X6x13.c ??
02:29 < joecool> <joecool> eh?
02:29 < joecool> <coob> its a problem with the link
02:29 < joecool> <coob> doesn't like -l
02:30 < coob> i wasn't talking to/about/with you
02:30 < Sliverque> hey, does "[blank] is depreciated" mean bad things in compile?
02:30 < joecool> ok then... courtc?
02:30  * courtc rofl
02:30 < coob> yes
02:30 < Sliverque> damn
02:30 < joecool> courtc?
02:30 < Sliverque> that's my kernel....
02:31 < Sliverque> is there a common reason why?
02:31 < courtc> <coob> i wasn't talking to/about/with you   ... neither was I
02:31 < joecool> oh damn
02:31 < joecool> well anyone know then?
02:31 < _Splice> im watchi8ng "hackers2 (the hacker crackdown)" Wow is all i have to say crazy tripyness stuff
02:32 < courtc> hackers2 sucks..
02:32 < _Splice> u kno of something cooler?
02:32 < courtc> stick with Hackers and flying through mainframes
02:33 < BleuLlama> "Scratch" is a pretty cool documentary.  just sayin
02:33 < _Splice> u crazy but i do love jolie
02:33 < BleuLlama> if you want a really good "hacking" style movie, I highly recommend "Sneakers"
02:33 < _Splice> sneakers is olde skool
02:34 < _Splice> i remember showing up to my local 2600 meeting and seeing the end of this movie im curently watching
02:34 < BleuLlama> and you, my friend, are the reason that films are constantly remade
02:34 < BleuLlama> heh. that one sentence says a lot about you. heh.
02:35 < _Splice> arse
02:35 < _Splice> im whom i am ....
02:36 < courtc> Ugh..
02:37 < joecool> what do i need to add to etc/rc for the clock to work properly?
02:38 < courtc> joecool- seriously now. read up.
02:39 < joecool> I wrote half of the modifications to the docs for 4g.. theres nothing in there about that
02:39 < joecool> unless you shoved it elsewhere
02:39 < courtc> no. read ^ up.'
02:39 < joecool> oh, heh :P
02:44 < joecool> mmm nice, not perfect, but damn nice
02:46 < courtc> Can you make a single positive comment without critisizing at the same time?
02:47 < courtc> :(  irc'ing angry isn't healthy
02:47 < courtc> Ignore me.
02:48 < BleuLlama> always do
02:52 < Sliverque> wait, you guys have the clock working right? like, on time after reboot?
02:52 < Sliverque> did I miss something?
02:52 < BleuLlama> on 3g+ yes
02:52 < courtc> Is that really not on the wiki?
02:52 < BleuLlama> there's a wiki that contains basic information about the project?  surely you jest!
02:52  * BleuLlama is in full asshole mode tonight.
02:52 < Sliverque> BleuLlama, really? awsome!
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02:53  * aegray loves it
02:54 < CIA-1> courtc * tools/podzilla/menu.c: there's a BOOLEAN_MENU? surely you jest
02:55 < BleuLlama> HAHAHA!
02:55 < BleuLlama> dick.
02:55 < BleuLlama> ;)
02:55 < courtc> ;D
02:56 < Sliverque> wait, it says in teh faq it won't reset on 3g.. but mine does!
02:56 < BleuLlama> even after you put in the hwclock line in the rc file?  strange.
02:57 < Sliverque> actually, I think yeah
02:57 < Sliverque> you guys told me that one a while ago
02:57 < Sliverque> but I got messages about how you couldn't access the hw clock yet
02:57 < Sliverque> is there an update to hwclock or something?
02:58 < courtc> umm.. no
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02:58 < Sliverque> hm. well, what's the line again?
02:59 < courtc> ...
02:59  * courtc goes to write it on the wiki... somewhere
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03:00 < Sliverque> hey, I searched it!
03:00 < Jackkhzjd> This looks like a silly question but - does viPodzilla support 4G?
03:01 < _Splice> just because its not color i dont see whynot
03:01 < _Splice> but then agian ima n00b
03:02 < courtc> depends on if zsk builds it on an updated microwindows tree
03:02 < Sliverque> courtc: is it somewhere like ipodlinux/clock?
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03:04 < BleuLlama> you know, googling for "hwclock ipodlinux" or just scrolling up does wonders
03:04 < _Splice> heh but some can only scroll soo high
03:05 < _Splice> <bufferz> persoonaly mines not too big
03:05 < BleuLlama> one of the people here is a bot that is logging.
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03:06 < _Splice> oh god i hope my words wont be held agianst me
03:06 < _Splice> and im sure these's more than one  oging
03:06 < BleuLlama> oh, they will.
03:07 < _Splice> oh well while there sifting through old lame logs ill be climbing the ladder
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03:07 < aegray> what ladder
03:07 < joecool> theres only command-line mpd for ipod
03:07 < joecool> ?
03:08 < courtc> mpd is a daemon.
03:08 < courtc> hence the d
03:08 < joecool> yeah yeah, there is no interface to it for the ipod at all yet?
03:09 < _Splice> u can install new shit on the ipod linux right? without recompiling "podzilla" like a real distro right?
03:10  * _Splice trying to be serious
03:10 < courtc> joecool, there is ... somewhere.
03:10 < BleuLlama> "like a real distro"?  Ipod linux is not a real distribution of linux?
03:11 < _Splice> kinda makes sense but why does everything have to sound so vague?
03:12 < joecool> hmm lot of malloc failed
03:12 < aegray> what do you mean install things? you can run a program you copy to the ipod
03:12 < joecool> only on certain albums though
03:12 < joecool> (it hates the tiesto tracks...)
03:13 < courtc> nothing is vague. podzilla is a user interface that runs on top of ipodlinux.
03:14 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Troubleshooting#My_calendar_says_I.27m_way_back_in_the_.2770s.21
03:14 < _Splice> howbout if i desiced to copy and compile a source code of say for example...i dont kno.. beerpong "fictional (heh) game and ran the bin ... would it run?
03:14 < Sliverque> so hwclock works normally now?
03:15 < courtc> _Splice, sure.
03:15  * _Splice compiler debugger 1 or 2 errors
03:15 < _Splice> cool
03:15 < _Splice> courtc,
03:15 < courtc> Sliverque, umm.. It was never broken?
03:17 < Sliverque> courtc, like I said before it told me you guys hadn't figured out how to tap the real hard ware clock yet
03:18 < courtc> umm.. maybe you were using an ancient kernel..
03:18 < BleuLlama> it's worked as long as i've been on the project....
03:19 < _Splice> leachbj is a freeking genoius and so is courtc maybe the Llama and anyone else i forgot to name like Coob
03:19  * _Splice bows down to those "higher ups"
03:20 < BleuLlama> nah.  courtc is an idiot.  he's no genius
03:20 < aegray> its a she i thought
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03:20 < aegray> just kidding
03:20 < courtc> heh
03:21  * _Splice pisses pants
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03:21 < joecool> btw... what the hell is mandlepod?
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03:22 < Kate6> joecool: It draws a Mandlebrot set.
03:22 < _Splice> so courtc have u goten gnuboy to work?
03:22 < Kate6> joecool: Surely you know what a mandlebrot set.  I mean, doesn't *every* proper geek know?
03:22 < courtc> wth, no
03:23 < _Splice> still have to mess with the porting junk?
03:23 < Kate6> joecool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
03:23 < courtc> I don't work on that crap.
03:23 < joecool> oh, fractals?
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03:23 < _Splice> maybe i should give a shot then im pretty interestied in it
03:24 < Kate6> joecool: Yeah.
03:24 < courtc> joecool out-geeked by a girl..
03:24 < BleuLlama> Kate: if i wasn't married i'd be hitting on you right now.
03:24 < BleuLlama> ;)
03:24 < Kate6> Ha.
03:24  * courtc not married
03:24 < courtc> :o
03:24 < Kate6> Really?  You'd want a big geek girl?
03:24 < joecool> nvm.. i found someone my age who lives within 30mi's of me on IRC awile back
03:25 < BleuLlama> tee-hee
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03:25 < _Splice> omfg u  all are keerazy
03:25 < Kate6> _Splice: Who told you?
03:25 < mage> joecool: nice
03:25 < mage> I cant find anyone my age anywhere
03:26 < joecool> three months ago "wait.. you're a she? I thought on IRC, men were men, women were men, and 13 year old girls were FBI agents."
03:26 < mage> its like their all in hiding
03:26 < _Splice> u hitting on me Kate6  ? no1 adresses some1 else unless they are... soo i believe
03:26  * BleuLlama goes back to writing html docs for a java application.  kill me.
03:26 < joecool> about 2 weeks ago.. I'm dissing my state which I have the tendency to do.. and I found out she lives right near me.. and is in the same year i'm in
03:26 < mage> oh is that all?
03:26 < Kate6> _Splice: Uh...  Hitting on you?
03:27 < Kate6> _Splice: Where'd you get *that* from?
03:27 < _Splice> u kno u want it
03:27 < mage> I dont think Kate is 6
03:27 < mage> hahahaha
03:27 < Kate6> _Splice: Weren't you the Windows user?
03:27 < joecool> its like, a/s/l?
03:27 < joecool> must be... he's hiding it
03:27 < joecool> hehehe
03:27  * _Splice cough cough <hiden ver> cough
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03:28 < Kate6> Linux thevillage 2.6.11 #12 Sun May 15 19:00:05 PDT 2005 i686 unknown
03:28  * _Splice is platform independent
03:28 < joecool> Linux redefine 2.6.12-rc4-no1 #2 Thu May 19 18:35:44 EDT 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
03:28 < mage> I was at a rodeo today, cruisin the fairgrounds, and like every girl I saw was either too old or too young for me
03:29 < Kate6> Hmm.
03:29 < _Splice> u'll find her... someday
03:29 < _Splice> hav e faith
03:29 < Kate6> Oh wait, this is FreeNode, I can have my vanity vhost here.
03:29 < joecool> yeah, Palmula
03:29 < joecool> :P
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03:30 < mage> I think im on 2.4.26 still for linux kernel
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03:31 < joecool> well.. i'm a bleeding edge patchset maintainer.. this one is actually old.. i've been to lazy to bump it to 2.6.12-rc4-no2 that my co-maintainer made
03:32 < courtc> what've we told you about that joecool? no talking about your damn patchset in here.
03:32 < joecool> figure.. since linux 2.6 has never been truly stable, why not? I'd run and work with the newest
03:32 < joecool> courtc: who, what?
03:32 < joecool> courtc: you just mentioned my patchset!!!
03:33  * courtc sets mode +q joecool!*@*
03:34 < joecool> savfdsdefv fd
03:35 < joecool> ... sorry, whacked the keyboard
03:37 < joecool> gotta say though.. nice work
03:37 < _Splice> spam realy isnt that bad... its just ham!
03:37 < joecool> though i have no idea what this vortex demo is
03:37 < _Splice> <--- didnt kno that
03:38 < joecool> someone had their wheaties today
03:38 < aegray> arg
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03:41 < joecool> ugh.. nite all
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03:41 < BleuLlama> i should commentout the vortex demo
03:41 < aegray> no
03:42 < BleuLlama> or just fucking write the game
03:42 < aegray> i haven't looked at it yet
03:42 < courtc> haha
03:42 < joecool|sleep> BleuLlama: put dope wars in its place
03:42 < joecool|sleep> much more entertaining :P
03:43 < courtc> joecool|sleep, there is a good reason you aren't making the decisions
03:43 < _Splice> im suprised we're still propegating pong tetris atriods etc... why hasnt any1 come up with a cool similair prog thats just as simple? gawd must i do everything? howcome drugwar isnt preinstalled?  that shits a must
03:43 < joecool|sleep> call a poll on it then.. i'm sure you'll find more users in favor of it hehe
03:44 < BleuLlama> court, you were right
03:44 < BleuLlama> he says something nice while slamming something else at the same time.
03:44 < aegray> +q?
03:45 < aegray> or is it -q
03:45 < joecool|sleep> who me?
03:45 < aegray> eh
03:45 < aegray> i'm not sure which
03:45 < Sliverque> so the 2.6 kernel compiles for the ipod successfully?
03:45 < BleuLlama> yes you
03:46 < courtc> once you people write something *then* you can complain.. until then stfu and take what you get.
03:46 < _Splice> heh i love u!
03:46 < joecool|sleep> courtc: ok then, I think i'll do that
03:46 < BleuLlama> you just basically said fuck you and your demo for your game in progress, put in this other game in its place
03:46 < _Splice> Amen
03:46 < joecool|sleep> but you promise I can complain?
03:46 < aegray> write it first
03:46 < joecool|sleep> BleuLlama: I just said I didn't understand it
03:47 < BleuLlama> you just said you wanted it removed.
03:47 < joecool|sleep> ugh my stomach
03:47 < joecool|sleep> well, in any case.. i'm not 100% up to arguing condition
03:48 < joecool|sleep> i'll look more at it and write something so I can bitch :P
03:48 < joecool|sleep> nite
03:48  * joecool|sleep slinks off
03:54 < aegray> anybody use the windows installer and have it give you the folder picture?
03:57 < BleuLlama> <- mac guy
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04:03 < aegray> anyone on a 4g wanna test a kernel for me?
04:09 < _Splice> i could theriticly but im about to passout
04:10 < _Splice> win gui installer
04:10 < aegray> its killing my ipod
04:11 < _Splice> ur word arent realy convincing mre to do a betaa etst
04:11 < aegray> the win installer is not the kernel
04:12 < _Splice> how hard could it be to ... u kno
04:12 < aegray> i don't know but its giving me a folder and not booting it.  I have to rewrite it 5 times and then it works
04:12 < aegray> sometimes
04:13 < aegray> not understanding why
04:14 < _Splice> well the win gui uses a mbr.bin file loader.bin and linux.bin (id guess that would be the kernel binary right?)  courtc shuold kno for certian... i dont
04:15 < _Splice> me <is a n00b>
04:16 < _Splice> but im eager to help
04:16 < wembley> aegray:don't you have a 4g?
04:16 < aegray> i have a 4g and a photo
04:17 < aegray> but i can't get a kernel to boot
04:17 < aegray> my linux box is out (the hd thing)
04:17 < aegray> and the windows one won't intsall right
04:17 < wembley> ah
04:17 < wembley> knoppix :)
04:17 < aegray> doesn't help
04:17 < aegray> laptop only has usb
04:17 < aegray> kernel needs to be compiled with no EFT_PARTITION
04:17 < aegray> and i can't get a cd with that
04:17 < aegray> been trying for a week
04:17 < aegray> weak*
04:17 < aegray> agh - going nuts
04:18 < _Splice> look in the instalation forum u should find a 4g installer for win
04:18 < aegray> i have that
04:18 < aegray> its giving me the picture of a folder when i boot
04:18 < aegray> usb problem maybe
04:18 < _Splice> thats what i did ... thank gawd or whoever made that nice loveley pkgs 4 me and those like me even though its unsupported
04:19 < _Splice> fie ipl4g.zip
04:19 < _Splice> file*,
04:21 < aegray> wtf
04:21 < aegray> weird
04:21 < aegray> i held in keys for a long time and blue flashed across the screen
04:21 < aegray> and linux started booting
04:32  * aegray gives his ipod and computer the finger
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05:11 < BleuLlama> i just realized that my cd player is older than some of you. heh.
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05:23 < veteran> •Luke• you there
05:23 < BleuLlama> heya vet
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05:24 < veteran> BleuLlama - vortex looks great
05:25 < veteran> the hype is justified ;)
05:26 < BleuLlama> i jsut need to work on it.
05:26 < BleuLlama> unfortunately, work got even more busy
05:27 < BleuLlama> it's 1:30, and i'm still working on work stuff. :(
05:27 < BleuLlama> thanks. though. i appreciate it. :)
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05:49 < veteran> well, talking with people in #mediawiki it seems that we're not the only wiki suffering
05:50 < veteran> this same bot/virus/ddos has hit quite a few WIKIs: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22p2l.info%22&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N&filter=0
05:52 < BleuLlama> is it possible to add in something like, generating a random number, displaying it at the bottom of the page, and asking the user to retype it twoce (or cut/paste it)
05:53 < zer0python> ................................
05:53 < BleuLlama> it'd keep the bots made for out-of-the-box wiki from mucking about with it
05:53 < veteran> yep, just gotta make time to code it.
05:53 < zer0python> 4G support still non-existant
05:53 < zer0python> mm
05:53 < zer0python> the ipod 1000G is gonna be out before you guys offer 4G ;p
05:53 < zer0python> </rude assholish remark>
05:54 < BleuLlama> or have an approval proces for people to edit it.  person signs up, but can't edit until a mod approves them, etc.
05:57 < veteran> heh i've thought about rewriting mediawiki's approach to be more "suggestion" oriented
05:58 < veteran> where people can edit, but instead of it being implemented immediately it addes it to a page suggestion queue
05:58 < BleuLlama> it was really getting insane earlier today
05:58 < veteran> yeah i wish you guys would stop wasting time rolling them back
05:58 < BleuLlama> that seems oliek a good solution
05:58 < veteran> easier to just email me to do a mysql restore from backups
05:58 < BleuLlama> well, it looks like crap until they're back.
05:58 < BleuLlama> and it was happening really quickly earlier
05:59 < veteran> true, working on disabling editing temporarilly so we don't get a billion overnight
05:59 < veteran> unless we have any obsessed ipodlinux fans in Asia interested in monitoring recent changes?
06:00 < veteran> didn't think so.
06:00 < BleuLlama> heh
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06:05 < Luke> whatsup vet
06:06 < veteran> disabling edits
06:06 < Luke> ?? cause of the bot attack?
06:06 < veteran> yeah until tommorrow when i have time
06:06 < Luke> k
06:06 < Luke> are all the ip's different?
06:06 < veteran> i'm sure any line break fixes can wait ;)
06:07 < Luke> hehehee
06:07 < veteran> yes. very different.
06:07 < Luke> alright as i thought
06:07 < Luke> some zombie computers =(
06:07 < Luke> well i'll start looking into solutions
06:07 < veteran> the first two attacks were from the middle east though
06:07 < Luke> you said the #mediawiki people didnt have any?
06:07 < veteran> probably not significant, but i figured i'd give freenode's local FBI agent something to worry about
06:08 < Luke> heh where's that guy at?
06:08 < veteran> uh well they were talking about rewriting their own stuff. not encouraging. hah
06:08 < Luke> no not at all
06:08 < veteran> scroll up for the google link of sites effected by this same bot
06:08 < veteran> affected? hm..
06:08 < Luke> damn!
06:09 < Luke> nothing a little user validation shouldnt fix though
06:09 < Luke> though writing those image validators isnt exactly the easiest task
06:12 < Luke> i'm going to post something on the main page
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06:18 < veteran> naah i dont think a main page warning is necessary
06:19 < veteran> most people viewing the main page could care less about modifying the wiki, it's the content they want to see
06:19 < Luke> also everyone that tries to edit/post goes to the main page
06:20 < Luke> its where the news goes
06:21 < veteran> http://ipodlinux.org/Backend_News ? :D
06:21 < veteran> http://ipodlinux.org/Blog_That_No$wgReadOnly = true;
06:21 < veteran> $wgReadOnlyFile = "{$wgUploadDirectory}/lock_yBgMBwiR";
06:21 < veteran> uhm nice job there.
06:22 < veteran> whatever idiot made shift-insert paste should be shivved.
06:22 < Luke> hahaha
06:22 < Luke> middle click
06:24 < Luke> anyway i'd rather have the information obvious so we dont get spammed with "bug" reports
06:24 < Luke> about people not being able to post
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06:26 < veteran> -sigh- i suppose i enjoy sitting back and watching noobs get flamed
06:26 < Luke> we're leaving the notic
06:26 < Luke> e
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06:29 < Luke> oh no
06:29 < Luke> EvilDude is here!
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06:30 < EvilDude> fear me :D
06:30 < Luke> hehe
06:31 < EvilDude> I got myself a wireless remote
06:31 < Luke> remote?
06:31 < Luke> for what?
06:31 < EvilDude> And if I can somehow make podzilla chagne into "remote mode" or something where you can scoll through menus using remote, and using coob's flite stuff  I can make it work from far :D
06:31 < EvilDude> well basically so I can put iPod on stereo and control from lounge
06:31 < EvilDude> (i'm very lazy)
06:32 < Luke> oooh cool
06:32 < Luke> do you have the IR reciever too?
06:33 < EvilDude> uses RF so RF receiver is on the iPod
06:33 < EvilDude> it isnt that big either
06:33 < veteran> fun hack, take some pics
06:33 < Luke> yea
06:33 < Luke> that sounds cool
06:33 < EvilDude> fun hack :P? I didnt MAKE it ;)
06:33 < Luke> cause i've wanted a remote for my ipod too
06:33 < EvilDude> I bought it :p
06:33 < veteran> oh, misread :/
06:34 < veteran> thought you hooked up an IR receiver to the serial port with some wizardry
06:34 < EvilDude> although that would be fun
06:34 < EvilDude> haha na i'm no wizard :(
06:34 < veteran> i could do that with a microcontroller but the prototyping board would be twice the size of my ipod
06:35 < EvilDude> jaja
06:35 < EvilDude> haha*
06:35 < EvilDude> hmm Luke: for the wiki, isn't there some way of making it so that users need to get "activated" before they can make changes
06:35 < Luke> its already that way
06:36 < Luke> the bot registeres and everything
06:36 < Luke> we're going to have to write something that validates users
06:36 < EvilDude> hmm yeah
06:37 < EvilDude> I dont get why people bother waste their time with things like that =\
06:37 < Luke> donno man
06:37 < Luke> the blog used to get hit with a lot of it too
06:37 < Luke> but they were easy enough for me to just delete by hand in bulk
06:37 < Luke> the wiki really isnt conducive to that
06:37 < EvilDude> ah
06:38 < EvilDude> wonder if it's the same IP for both (or similar)
06:38 < Luke> nope
06:38 < Luke> its most likely some kind of virus
06:38 < Luke> zombie computers are doing this
06:38 < EvilDude> damn
06:38 < Luke> yea
06:39 < Luke> sucks
06:41 < veteran> well the bot seems to attack each site once then move on
06:41 < veteran> at least it's not repeated attacks, or spidering edits of the site
06:41 < Luke> or its just random
06:41 < EvilDude> so it's not like someone has a grudge against us
06:42 < Luke> could be done through google even
06:42 < Luke> EvilDude: not likely
06:42 < veteran> definately random/google, not a grudge
06:43 < veteran> although it is kinda weird that all the originating IPs fingerprint as xserves.... -conspiracy theory-
06:43 < EvilDude> just sad that someone wasted their time making a bot do all that when I'm sure they could have done something a lot more useful
06:43 < veteran> nah they're not xserves, actually none of them respond to ping
06:44 < Luke> they probably got payed a pretty penny to pimp whatever site is getting pimped
06:44 < veteran> i doubt it, looks like a self pimping attempt to me
06:45 < Luke> could be
06:45 < Luke> either way there is a lot of persional gain is my point
06:45 < veteran> probably a bored middleshooler who signed up for an account at a pay-per-click advertiser and got this bright idea
06:45 < Luke> yup
06:45 < veteran> enough. goodnight all
06:46 < veteran> sleep tight...
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10:00 < Kate6> Say, anyone around?
10:01 < Kate6> I'm trying to get the ethernet link working between yesterday's nightly build and a machine running 2.6.11 with the ipodeth1394 driver from CVS.
10:01 < Kate6> I did the little patch to the CVS source like the webpage said to...
10:01 < Kate6> Well, actually, it failed both chunks, but I did it manually and it compiled.
10:01 < Kate6> But I'm still getting ARP problems...  (tcpdump shows 'truncated arps') when I try to ping the iPod.
10:01 < Kate6> This normal?
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12:55 < coob> Kate6: you're on a 4g right? firewire isn't support on 4gs :/
12:55 < coob> supported*
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14:24 < BleuLlama> morning, aegray
14:24 < aegray> morning
14:24 < aegray> i was loving your mood yesterday
14:25 < aegray> not loving joecool
14:29 < BleuLlama> heh
14:30  * BleuLlama looks at the source to the "World Clock" OS X Dashboard Widget for ideas
14:30 < BleuLlama> The Dashboard World Clock does this neat thing with the second hand... It looks very realistic, since the hand doesn't "just move", it wobbles as each second advances.
14:30 < BleuLlama> i'm thinking about putting that into my analog clock
14:30 < BleuLlama> :D
14:31 < leachbj> where's my world time?!
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14:31 < BleuLlama> i got your world time right here
14:31 < BleuLlama> actually, now that I know more about timezones, it shouldn't be too muc hwork to put it in there.
14:32 < BleuLlama> so that's three clock updates i want to do. heh
14:33 < BleuLlama> how would you want it to be?
14:33 < BleuLlama> just have a menu to set the timezone, then re-enter clock display, or what?
14:33 < aegray> have like 10 clocks on the screen
14:34 < aegray> each one you can configure the time zone for
14:34 < aegray> no - 30
14:34 < BleuLlama> 30 clocks.
14:34 < BleuLlama> 128x160
14:34 < BleuLlama> you're funny.  tee-hee
14:34 < aegray> 50 then
14:34 < BleuLlama> why not 20,480 of them?  one for each pixel!
14:34 < aegray> that would work
14:35 < BleuLlama> OK!
14:36  * BleuLlama is glad dashboard widgets are uncompiled javascript.  :D
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14:51 < CIA-1> yorgle * tools/podzilla/fonts.c:
14:51 < CIA-1> Added some extra checks for when there's no font directory. (Keeps pz from going out to lunch)
14:51 < CIA-1> Suppressed a compile warning about GrCreateFont()
14:52  * BleuLlama afk for a meeting
14:52 < aegray> whats afk?
14:52 < leachbj> away from keyboard
14:52 < aegray> ah
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15:26 < _Splice> lalala
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15:36 < leachbj> yay, sf.net stats are bac online http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?group_id=73079&ugn=ipodlinux&type=&mode=alltime
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15:47 < _Splice> hi courtney
15:50 < courtc> hello
15:50 < _Splice>                                      ^_^
15:53 < _Splice> heh i dont think the battery idicators working right... says full but i kno its realy dead... and up there it went <slept with my ipod>   (ill wake up in the middle of the night and im actually sleeping on it!)  heh he
15:54 < courtc> nah, It works perfectly... dunno what you're on about.
15:54 < _Splice> <-- names ipod Gir!
15:58 < _Splice> ipod just told me it likes taco's?  wtf
15:58 < courtc> BleuLlama, around?
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16:00 < BleuLlama> kinda.
16:00 < BleuLlama> sup?
16:00 < BleuLlama> (in a meeting right now)
16:00 < aegray> look at that dedication
16:00 < aegray> still talking to us
16:01 < aegray> haha
16:01 < BleuLlama> dedication or boredom... you decide
16:01 < coob> phone in a bom threat
16:01 < courtc> Hmm.. the only way I could see the fontlist having 0 fonts is if there is a font.lst with nothing in it?
16:01 < coob> that always livens up meetings
16:02 < BleuLlama> on my desktop build, i ran it, selected the font chooser, hit left, it hung
16:02 < BleuLlama> i didn't set up the fonts directory or anything
16:02 < courtc> hmm..
16:02 < BleuLlama> regardless... it's a possible situation... nothing's harmed by checking. ;)
16:03 < courtc> hmm.. on x11 it checks ./font.lst
16:03 < courtc> err.. ./fonts/font.lst
16:04 < BleuLlama> i-2 3> ls -l font.lst
16:04 < BleuLlama> ls: font.lst: No such file or directory
16:04 < BleuLlama> i-2 4> ls fonts
16:04 < BleuLlama> ls: fonts: No such file or directory
16:04 < BleuLlama> so... there you go.  i didn't have the files set up.
16:04 < BleuLlama> what's the big deal, it's three extra conditionals in a non-time sensitive code block?
16:04 < courtc> yea, shouldn't be..  I'lll look into quiting out at the begining though
16:05 < courtc> its not a big deal.
16:05 < BleuLlama> sounds good.  check for the file, make sure it's readable... if either are not true display "fonts not available" or somesuch
16:05 < BleuLlama> i should have done that. hmm.
16:05 < BleuLlama> sorry
16:05 < courtc> heh, np ;
16:05 < courtc> )
16:06 < coob>  there's a BOOLEAN_MENU? surely you jest
16:06 < coob> haha
16:07 < BleuLlama> shush
16:07 < courtc> heh :)
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16:11 < courtc> whoops, I thought it already errored out.. left out a line :p
16:17 < CIA-1> courtc * tools/podzilla/fonts.c: errors out if font.lst is non-existent or has no valid font entries
16:19 < BleuLlama> man. podzilla desktop builds so much quicker on this new machine. :D
16:19 < BleuLlama> looks good, courtc. :)
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16:39 < coob> hi dpalffy
16:40 < dpalffy> hi!
16:40 < leachbj> howdy!
16:42 < _Splice> wassuup?
16:43 < coob> haha i'm just about to test nxdoom
16:44  * coob awaits with baited breath
16:44 < coob> ..or whatever
16:44 < coob> (that sounds like i have maggots in my mouth)
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16:46 < dpalffy> just have some time to look around here :) bern, i've just seen your commits for 4g audio
16:47 < leachbj> yeah finally got something working there :)
16:48 < dpalffy> now i don't even have hardware to test... i've spilled some liquid on my ipod while skiing, and since then, the firewire connector doesn't work :(
16:48 < leachbj> did you see that coob also has AAC working (using the helix stuff)
16:48 < dpalffy> yes, read sth about that.
16:48 < leachbj> bugger...
16:49 < dpalffy> at least i can charge and upload music with a USB cable at work
16:49 < coob> usb 1.1 should work, just slowly :)
16:50 < fub> yeah 1.1 works that's what I use one my old laptop
16:50 < dpalffy> yes, but i don't have a cable myself, and i can't telnet any more...
16:50 < leachbj> i've given up on firewire ... just too fricken flakey under linux
16:50 < coob> ah yes :/ i've never had the luxury of telnet
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16:52 < dpalffy> leachbj: any success with 2.6?
16:53 < leachbj> nope :(  i tried with 2.6.8 or .9 i think... same problem
16:53 < leachbj> been doing 4g stuff since though
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16:54 < dpalffy> btw, what's the difference between 5020 and 5022 except the lower voltage?
16:54 < coob> more iram
16:54 < coob> (128k)
16:54 < aegray> i like
16:54 < leachbj> not sure, apparently register compatible... but mini2 doesnt seem to work just yet
16:56 < leachbj> guys i'm off just now, time to head home
16:56 < Luke> see ya bern
16:56 < leachbj> hi Luke, thanks for getting that new image up on the front page... looks quite nice
16:56 < Luke> np
16:57 < Luke> coob let me know about it =) i just slapped it up
16:57 < leachbj> good1
16:57 < leachbj> ok cyas
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17:59 < Sereroku> hello
18:00 < Sereroku>  added audio support for mini/4g/photo (no recording support) &  enable audio functions for 4g/mini/photo <- does it mean that iPl for 4G isn't far away? ^^
18:01 < leachbj> closer is fair to say...
18:02 < Sereroku> ok
18:02 < Sereroku> ;)
18:05 < Sereroku> and, what's the next "problem"
18:05 < leachbj> recording, then cpu speed
18:06 < Sereroku> what's with the cpu?
18:07 < leachbj> its not running at full speed
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19:28 < usr010> herow
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19:29 < usr010> lol mgla
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19:56 < aegray> coob: were you actuallly going to try nxdoom or were you joking
19:57 < coob> no i actually tried it
19:57 < coob> loads up fine
19:57 < coob> (need the right CFLAGS tho)
19:57 < coob> but
19:57 < coob> no gfx :/
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19:58 < coob> black screen and a moving line of pixels at the bottom tho!
19:58 < aegray> that shouldn't be too hard to fix
19:58 < coob> src is on the microwindows ftp server in /pub/nxdoom.tgz i think
19:58 < aegray> k
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20:19 < Fanfoue> hi
20:20 < Fanfoue> I have a small question, with my ipod photo, the colors I see are not the right ones (i.e. with matrix I see red letters instead of green letters
20:20 < Fanfoue> )
20:20 < Fanfoue> somebody told me that it is because the 1.1 firmware
20:20 < leachbj> they were right
20:20 < Fanfoue> but is there a way to fix colors for the 1.1 firmware ?
20:21 < leachbj> sure, just grab a copy of the 1.1 bootloader and reverse engineer it sufficient to work out how it differs to the 1.0 bootloader then determine which part corresponds to the different LCD initialisation and then patch the linux driver to match
20:22 < leachbj> either that or just wait till I get around to it ;)
20:22 < Fanfoue> lol :)
20:22 < Fanfoue> you're working on it ?
20:22 < leachbj> not yet
20:22 < leachbj> its low priority since you can just use 1.0
20:22 < Fanfoue> okey
20:23 < Fanfoue> but if I change the firmware will I loose all my datas from the hard drive ?
20:23 < Fanfoue> sorry if it's a dummy question
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20:25 < leachbj> no but it can be tricky to downgrade...
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20:26 < Fanfoue> ok
20:27 < Fanfoue> and do you know where can I find the 1.0 firmware ?
20:27 < Fanfoue> it seems to be only the 1.1 on apple's website
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20:33 < aegray> i love sarcasm
20:33 < mage> http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ipodupdater20041115.html
20:33 < mage> darn, download doesn't work
20:37 < Kate6> aegray: Did you see that Slashdot article about how they figured out the part of the brain that handles sarcasm?
20:37 < aegray> somebody told me about that
20:37 < aegray> but i didn't read it
20:37 < aegray> lemme look
20:40 < aegray> if only they could figure out the part that makes me loose everything
20:41 < coob> ipodlinux.org/Troubleshooting <-- clues there
20:41 < coob> um
20:41 < coob> thats about downgrading firmware btw...
20:41 < coob> i had my scroll buffer up :/
20:42 < BleuLlama> loose?
20:42 < BleuLlama> *lose
20:42 < aegray> thanks spelling whiz
20:43 < BleuLlama> NO PROBLEM!  GLAD TO SERVE!  :D
20:43 < aegray> haha
20:43 < BleuLlama> please enjoy your trip through this door
20:43 < aegray> uh oh
20:43 < coob> man that pisses me off
20:43 < coob> when poeple hit space twice after sentences
20:43 < BleuLlama> it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on
20:43 < aegray> speak for yourself...er no
20:44 < aegray> gross
20:44 < BleuLlama> coob:  i've been trying to have two spaces between sentences, but putting the period/etc halfway between . like this . It's hard to do, but looks "clever".
20:45 < coob> clever like homer
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21:32 < aegray> what files set up what the cpu does during idle in the kernel?
21:33 < leachbj> include/asm/arch/system.h arch_idle
21:34 < aegray> thank you
21:35 < joecool> leachbj: good job on the audio, just got a chance to test it before i send my ipod out for repair :P
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21:36 < leachbj> thanks
21:38 < aegray> if i setup a variable that says nothing important is running
21:38 < aegray> and put the processors to sleep
21:38 < aegray> will that mess up all scheduling
21:38 < aegray> ?
21:38 < leachbj> the cop already should sleep itself
21:39 < leachbj> if you sleep the cpu in there it should wake up on next interrupt (timer)
21:39 < aegray> would that save any power to sleep between timer cycles?
21:40 < leachbj> probably some, but its hard to say how much.
21:41 < aegray> does the scheduler depend on what time its at or just that the timer goes off?
21:41 < aegray> <--- knows very little about actual kernel
21:49 < leachbj> umm, the timer goes off at a regular interval and updates the ticks which is the kernel clock
21:51 < aegray> ok - is the actual clock on the ipod run from the rtc or updated based on ticks?
21:52 < leachbj> ticks
21:52 < aegray> k
21:52 < leachbj> and sub-tick time is calculated by asking how long till next timer interrupt
21:53 < aegray> hmm
21:53 < BleuLlama> Cool! You're talking about clocks!  I'm relevant!  </zoidberg>
21:53 < leachbj> slap
21:54 < aegray> make the second hand wobble
21:54 < BleuLlama> hehe.  working on it
21:54 < BleuLlama> probably code that up tonight
21:54 < BleuLlama> i know *exactly* how i'm gonna do it too.
22:05 < aegray> *exactly*
22:05 < aegray> whats with your lack of spaces before the period?
22:08 < BleuLlama> ?
22:08 < aegray> the period thing .
22:08 < aegray> with two spaces .
22:09 < aegray> nm
22:12 < leachbj> night all
22:12 < aegray> nighty
22:12 < BleuLlama> night
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22:12 < BleuLlama> oh . i only do that when there's a period between sentences . not at the end of a line.
22:12 < aegray> ah
22:12 < BleuLlama> and it's something i'm striving for . i don't always remember to do it.
22:13 < aegray> i'm here to remind you
22:13 < BleuLlama> i'm sure that you of all people would understand that
22:13 < aegray> mainly because I'm bored and sick of doing actual work
22:13 < BleuLlama> oh, i hear you.
22:13 < aegray> i know
22:13 < BleuLlama> what's your nickname from?  a shortening of your name?
22:14 < aegray> i have no clue - i got called it in highschool - my initials are AGJ and somehow it turned into this
22:14 < aegray> how bout yours
22:14 < BleuLlama> it's just my name.
22:14 < aegray> is it?
22:14 < BleuLlama> heh . no.
22:14 < aegray> haha
22:15 < BleuLlama> years ago, when i started on IRC (1993?) I picked the name "Llama Baloo", Llama from a monty python sketch, baloo from The Jungle book
22:15 < aegray> how its transformed since then
22:15 < BleuLlama> i shortened it down to LamaBaloo,  which became LlamaBloo then BleuLlama
22:16 < BleuLlama> on other IRC servers, i go by Yorgle sometimes
22:16 < BleuLlama> yorgle.org is my failed webcomic
22:16 < aegray> your yorgle? the one with the rastafarian pic like thing?
22:16 < BleuLlama> (Yorgle is the yellow duck-dragon from the Atari 2600 game "Adventure")
22:16 < aegray> ahhaa
22:16 < BleuLlama> aah. that pic is from my friend's interpretation of me for his webcomic  http://www.clenchedfistlabs.com
22:17 < BleuLlama> unlike my webcomic, his is actually good, and still updated
22:17 < BleuLlama> the "Jerry" character in that one is me.
22:17 < BleuLlama> (I went by the nickname Jerry IRL throughout college)
22:17 < aegray> haha
22:17 < aegray> die doppelganger
22:19 < BleuLlama> his is worth reading from the beginning. ;)
22:19 < BleuLlama> i'm heading out now.  see ya
22:19 < aegray> cya
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22:31 < aegray> anyone in here have an ipod photo and like to test something?
22:42 < joecool> aegray: what do you need tested (i don't have one.. but i do have access to one... sorta)
22:42 < aegray> video stuff
22:42 < aegray> its a new kernel and podzilla
22:44 < aegray> i have to work late - i can test it later but it would be nice to know now .
22:44 < joecool> I can't do it now... my guinea pig isn't online at the moment
22:44 < courtc> . I prefer putting periods before sentences
22:45 < aegray> haha
22:45 < aegray> ok
22:45 < aegray> that looks good
22:45 < joecool> i have a reg 20gb
22:45 < aegray> draws attention - says its important
22:45 < aegray> photo?
22:45 < joecool> but that is being shipped out tommorow
22:45 < joecool> the box came today :P
22:45 < joecool> you've heard of a 20gb photo?
22:45 < aegray> i don't really know anything
22:46 < aegray> so i have no idea
22:46 < joecool> oh ok
22:46 < joecool> nah, i have a 4g black and white
22:47 < courtc> <- mini blue and tan ;D
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22:57 < joecool> i must say though... 2 days to ship the box from cali to NJ
22:57 < joecool> not bad
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23:12 < usr010> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Keypad
23:19 < aegray> whast that post for?
23:19 < aegray> just a new one?
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23:42 < usr010> some1 told me to compile a newer kernel for my 4g so itll somewhat play music files...    but i used the 4g modded beta installer ... works great ... now i went and pickedup the latest kernel from nightly builds do i replace the wingui installer linux.bin file with this recent kernel.bin?  and reinstall... or will it kill the ipod any1 kno
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