--- Log opened Mon May 23 00:00:02 2005
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00:38 < aegray> in the docs it says that on a mac /dev/disk1s3 is automounted  and /dev/disk1s2 is the firmware partition
00:39 < aegray> but mine is automounting /dev/disk1s2
00:39 < aegray> which do I dd to to install a kernel?
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00:55 < Tonkajds> aegray:  what is the last line of your 'mount' comand?
00:55 < Tonkajds> command**
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01:05 < coob> aegray: that's odd
01:05 < coob> aegray: is it hfs or fat formatted?
01:05 < coob> aegray: also, the audio stuffs gone into cvs, sourceforge takes a while to sync thou
01:07 < Lumps> lo
01:08 < Lumps> yeay.. audio support :P
01:16 < aegray> fat
01:16 < Lumps> huh
01:16 < coob> um yeah it's a winpod then
01:16 < aegray> i have an audio version for the photo of the video stuff that i want to try (not sure how it will work)
01:16 < coob> firmware will be on disk1s1
01:16 < aegray> but no way to write it
01:16 < aegray> hmmm - its not letting me dd to disk1s1
01:17 < coob> error?
01:17 < coob> or try sudo dd ... :)
01:17 < coob> or sudo -s... root is disabled on os x
01:17 < aegray> lemme go try again
01:18 < aegray> i'm in root shell
01:18 < coob> whats the error?
01:18 < aegray> it just say Operation not supported
01:19 < coob> what commandline?
01:19 < aegray> thats all it says - i got "dd if=my_sw.bin of=/dev/disk1s1"
01:19 < coob> odd!
01:19 < coob> :/ reformat as hfs?
01:19 < aegray> and it says "/dev/disk1s1: Operation not supported"
01:19 < coob> it'll be easier to deal with
01:19 < aegray> i'm only using the mac for like 3 days though
01:20 < coob> ah ok
01:20 < aegray> so reformating will make it a lot more difficult to deal with
01:20 < coob> are you sure it's isk1?
01:20 < coob> disk1*
01:21  * coob never really used a fat formatted ipod
01:21 < aegray> arg
01:21 < aegray> waiting on new hd from compq then
01:21 < aegray> yea - i can mount it all on disk1s2
01:21 < aegray> and dd to disk1s2 and the ipod chugs
01:21 < aegray> (runs hd and writes)
01:21 < aegray> damn computers
01:21 < Lumps> grrr
01:22 < Lumps> the blog said that the nightly build would have audio support for 4g.. but it doesnt
01:22 < coob> wait for the next one.
01:22 < coob> which should be along in a few hours
01:23 < Lumps> k
01:23 < aegray> cvs hasn't updated yet
01:23 < aegray> still doesn't play mp3s though
01:23 < Lumps> hrm.. anything for me to test out?
01:23 < coob> To try this out you’ll need an updated kernel and podzilla version with the required changes from CVS. These should show up in the next nightly build so its probably easiest to grab it from there.
01:23 < Lumps> cause im bored
01:23 < aegray> you on a photo?
01:23 < Lumps> no
01:23 < Lumps> just a 4g
01:23 < Lumps> wish i had a photo
01:24 < coob> aegray: sourceforge cvs sucks
01:24 < coob> aegray: anon cvs has to sync with dev cvs
01:24 < Lumps> my friend her 4g screen cracked
01:24 < Lumps> and her dad yelled at best buy
01:24 < Lumps> and she got a 30gb photo for $10 more
01:24 < aegray> wish i had a computer that worked
01:24 < aegray> thats anoying
01:24 < aegray> annoying*
01:24 < aegray> i would have expected them to draw from the same source
01:24 < coob> my 4g has decided to do its dying act on me (it'll work in a couple of days, just like magic)
01:24 < Lumps> so she paid $10
01:24 < aegray> wow
01:24 < aegray> i got my photo for free - through the best buy replacement play
01:24 < aegray> plan*
01:24 < coob> photo's around somewhere
01:25 < Lumps> ->aegray<- cool how?
01:25 < Lumps> *stomps his feet* I want a photo!
01:25 < Lumps> lol
01:26 < Lumps> hrm.. so the new version wont support mp3's yet ehh
01:26 < Lumps> only wav
01:26 < aegray> bough a replacement plan when I bought a 40gig - and prices went down so i got a photo when my 40 gig broke
01:26 < aegray> the best buy free upgrade plan
01:26 < aegray> just have to wait a little
01:26 < aegray> i'll get a 60gig next time
01:26 < Lumps> lol
01:26 < aegray> mp3s skip at least for me
01:26 < coob> aegray: um yep, check the blog
01:27 < Lumps> last time my screen cracked
01:27 < Lumps> i bought a new 1 from best buy
01:27 < Lumps> and put old 1 in box
01:27 < coob> So far basic playback of wav files seems to be working well but MP3 and AAC are defintely not real-time since the CPU is not running at full speed.
01:27 < Lumps> and returned
01:27 < Lumps> they didnt even check
01:27 < Lumps> yupp but i sure would like to hear broken up audio
01:27 < aegray> yea - we could get it running faster with davidcs's project
01:28 < aegray> because the hd reads are very long
01:28 < coob> ?
01:28 < coob> nothing to do witht eh hd
01:28 < coob> the*
01:28 < coob> as mp3s are buffered into ram first
01:29 < coob> audio in podzilla needs a bit of reworking
01:29 < aegray> are they really?  I thought that file was opened, decoded then written to dma buffer
01:30 < aegray> for cop to play
01:30 < Lumps> woa
01:30 < Lumps> this diagnostics thingy is wierd
01:30 < coob> no
01:30 < coob> whole file gets put in ram
01:30 < coob> then decoded and written to dsp
01:30 < coob> /dev/dsp*
01:30 < coob> which must do all the dmaery things
01:32 < aegray> or is the whole thing read in first?
01:32 < aegray> ok
01:32  * aegray is getting used to being wrong
01:32 < coob> sorry i'm lagging
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01:33 < aegray> coob - do you know how the windows installer works? I'm wondering if i could use it to copy over one of my compiled kernels
01:33 < aegray> i am too
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01:33 < coob> no clue
01:33 < coob> see the 4g installer threads i guess?
01:33 < aegray> k
01:34 < coob> are you sure you're in a root sheel
01:34 < coob> not an admin one?
01:34 < Lumps> yeah
01:34 < Lumps> i use the windows installer
01:34 < aegray> i did an su
01:34 < Lumps> and just replace Linux.bin with the kernal
01:34 < Lumps> then thats it
01:34 < aegray> and it says i'm root
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01:34 < aegray> oh wow - gonna try that then
01:35 < coob> g5:~ cube$ whoami
01:35 < coob> cube
01:35 < coob> g5:~ cube$ sudo -s
01:35 < coob> Password:
01:35 < coob> g5:~ root# whoami
01:35 < coob> root
01:35 < coob> g5:~ root# exit
01:35 < coob> exit
01:35 < coob> g5:~ cube$ su
01:35 < coob> Password:
01:35 < coob> su: Sorry
01:35 < Lumps> hrm
01:35 < coob> :/
01:35  * coob </crapflood>
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01:36 < aegray> haha
01:36 < aegray> i did a sudo passwd to change root password
01:36 < aegray> then after that su
01:36 < aegray> that let it work
01:37 < coob> why bother
01:37 < coob> when there's sudo -s
01:37 < aegray> whats the -s?
01:37 < coob> shell
01:38 < Lumps> i need to learn linux
01:38 < Lumps> la di dooo
01:38 < Lumps> but then again... its not as usefull as learnging eeprom
01:42 < aegray> lets see how the windows installer works for me
01:42 < coob> hjk
01:43 < Lumps> errr
01:43 < Lumps> i bought a griffin ibeam
01:43 < Lumps> and the LED one idint work
01:43 < Lumps> so i sent it back to all about the accessories
01:43 < Lumps> and they havent sent me back a replacment in a month
01:43 < Lumps> or replied to my emails
01:43 < Lumps> meeeh
01:44 < Lumps> I want shure E4C's!!
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02:06 < aegray> whats an ibeam?
02:12 < Lumps> laser and light
02:12 < Lumps> lol
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02:24 < joecool> anyone in here ever request repair online for their ipod?
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02:36 < Luke> nope
02:36  * joecool grumbles
02:37 < aegray> is there a 4g windows installer?
02:37 < aegray> my internet is real sloooow and i'm not finding
02:39  * joecool slaps aegray 
02:39 < aegray> ouch
02:39 < joecool> read the topic
02:40 < aegray> my internet is dead - when i click on forum it says no data was returned
02:40 < joecool> i'd help you.. but only if you were on a linux box
02:40 < aegray> i'm on one
02:40 < aegray> but running from a usb hd
02:40 < aegray> so i need windows to install linux
02:40 < joecool> but to answer your question.. no there is no windows installer, and no there is no official support
02:40 < aegray> (agh)
02:40 < aegray> i don't really need official support
02:40 < joecool> well.. theres no unofficial windows installer either
02:41 < aegray> i'm trying to put on my own kernel
02:41 < aegray> k
02:41 < joecool> wait.. are you trying to use your ipod as a USB drive for linux?
02:42 < aegray> no
02:42 < aegray> i have a kernel compiled with special stuff
02:42 < aegray> i need to put it on my ipod
02:42 < aegray> but i'm on linux booting from a usb drive
02:42 < aegray> if i insert my ipod - it unmounts my usb drive
02:42 < aegray> and i lose the kernel
02:43 < aegray> so i'm trying to use a windows comp to put the kernel on the ipod
02:44 < Lumps> accept
02:45 < Lumps> ->aegray<-
02:45 < Lumps> wait
02:45 < Lumps> nm
02:45 < aegray> trying
02:45 < aegray> damn this wireless
02:45 < Lumps> i gotta dmz
02:45 < Lumps> lol
02:46 < Lumps> ->aegray<-
02:46 < aegray> don't worry about it i got the webpage
02:46 < aegray> thanks though
02:46 < Lumps> k im zipping
02:46 < Lumps> up the one i modded with the kernel
02:46 < aegray> k
02:46 < Lumps> k
02:46 < Lumps> nm
02:46 < Lumps> lol
02:47 < aegray> i don't even know where this client puts files
02:47 < Lumps> lmao
02:47 < Lumps> i thought u got the one from the website
02:47 < Lumps> or are u accepting my dcc
02:48 < aegray> damn my ignorance
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03:10 < aegray> 2.1kb/s
03:10 < aegray> tearin through the internet
03:12 < aegray> no - either way its slow
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03:16 < aegray> wow - restarted the cable modem and it went up to 56 for like 2 minutes
03:16 < aegray> now back to 12
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03:45 < casper> has anyone tried putting ebook on there psp ?
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03:45 < joecool> casper: i tried to water my PSP.. it didn't like it
03:46 < casper> i thought this was the psp room oops
03:46 < joecool> lol
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05:17 < Thunfisch> Hi, can someone tell me what a so called "Mac timestamp" is? I found this value in my iTunesDB file, but I just can't figure out how to make a human readable date out of it: bd5dbc3b
05:25 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB
05:26 < Thunfisch> Ah, seconds since 1/1/1904. Thank you, BleuLlama.
05:31  * BleuLlama throws a sharp dot at cryo's eye
05:31 < BleuLlama> oops
05:31 < BleuLlama> np
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05:33 < Thunfisch> Great, now the date seems to be right.
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06:32 < EvilDude> yay to audio :)
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07:00 < zsr> EvilDude, how does it sound?
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07:06 < EvilDude> I have a 3g so its been sounding good for a while ;)
07:06 < EvilDude> Just glad the sound is working :)
07:07 < joshk> heh
07:24 < fub> is there a way to shut off the ipod from linux without rebooting back into the appl s/w?
07:25 < fub> I'm using a ipod mini
07:25 < zsr> i think you can hold down play just like the original fw
07:25 < fub> hrmmm I just tried that didn't work let me try again
07:25 < EvilDude> no there isnt
07:25 < zsr> :(
07:25 < fub> guess that's a reguest ;)
07:26 < fub> request
07:26 < EvilDude> There's no such thing as power management atm unfortunately =\
07:26 < fub> btw ty for this
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07:33 < fub> should I add that to the request form   or is it a little to ovious
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07:46 < EvilDude> i think its obvious enough for the devs ;)
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07:51 < fub> ;)
07:52 < fub> a screen saver would be cool though  maybe slide show screen saver
07:53 < fub> anyways its late  see everyone later
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13:54 < coob> fucking wiki spammers
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14:04 < Tonkajds> what did they do now?
14:05 < pacroon> Spammed
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14:05 < pacroon> :D
14:06 < Tonkajds> kinda figured that, was hoping for a little more detail
14:09 < coob> look at the recent changes
14:10 < Tonkajds> k
14:11 < Tonkajds> Ggrr!
14:11 < Tonkajds> :P
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14:39 < coob> hey aegray
14:39 < coob> any luck with getting you kernel on?
14:40 < aegray> yea
14:40 < aegray> and bad news
14:40 < aegray> the status reg stuff didn't change anything
14:41 < aegray> i need to look at it a little more
14:41 < coob> :/
14:41 < aegray> i'm still skeptical though - i think the windows installer might have changed something i needed
14:41 < aegray> so i'm looking at it more
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14:42 < coob> it's odd tha it's not working on a mac
14:42 < aegray> yea i know
14:42 < aegray> that mac is old and pretty worthless
14:43 < aegray> i think its an ibook from at least 2 or three years ago
14:43 < coob> yep i have one of those
14:43 < aegray> (at least thats what i was told)
14:43 < coob> ibook g3, slew as hell
14:43 < aegray> yep
14:43 < coob> if it looks like a toilet seat
14:43 < coob> its one of the first ibooks
14:43 < aegray> took 1/2 an hour to dd the firmware from the ipod
14:43 < aegray> i don't know how that could be
14:44 < aegray> it might have been dding the music partition
14:44 < coob> dont use firewire
14:44 < coob> use usb
14:44 < coob> much more stable
14:44 < aegray> i'll try that
14:44 < aegray> who wrote the windows installer?
14:45 < coob> phynos
14:45 < coob> phyntos
14:45 < aegray> you think he'd give up source?  (or is it in cvs already)
14:45 < coob> it is open source
14:46 < coob> it has its own sourceforge project
14:46 < aegray> just pm him?
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14:46 < aegray> wow
14:46 < aegray> i knew that
14:46 < aegray> i'm not thinking this morning
14:46 < aegray> ipodlinux-1.2.1-src.zip
14:46 < aegray> i have it in my home dir
14:46 < aegray> haha
14:46 < coob> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinuxinst/ipodlinux-installer/
14:46 < coob> hm cvs is old :)
14:47 < aegray> i haven't tried out the sleep stuff yet
14:47 < aegray> although I realized theres a lot of work there
14:47 < aegray> because I forgot all about restoring irqs
14:47 < aegray> whoops
14:49 < aegray> when i have something for cvs do i send it straight to you?
14:50 < coob> patches@ipodlinux.org
14:51 < aegray> ok
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16:22 < smacmac> BoardHwName: iPod Q14
16:22 < smacmac> pszSerialNumber: JQ3433H0PNU
16:22 < smacmac> ModelNumStr: M9245
16:22 < smacmac> FirewireGuid: 0x00559013
16:22 < smacmac> HddFirmwareRev: JA121B
16:22 < smacmac> RegionCode: LL(0x0001)
16:22 < smacmac> PolicyFlags: 0x00000000
16:22 < smacmac> buildID: 0x02208000 (2.2)
16:22 < smacmac> visibleBuildID: 0x02208000 (2.2)
16:22 < smacmac> boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0)
16:22 < smacmac> boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0x00030001 (0.0.3 1)
16:22 < smacmac> bootLoaderImageRev: 0x00010000 (0.0.1 0)
16:22 < smacmac> diskModeImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0)
16:22 < smacmac> diagImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0)
16:22 < smacmac> osImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0)
16:22 < smacmac> iPodFamily: 0x00000000
16:22 < smacmac> updaterFamily: 0x00000000
16:22 < smacmac> Does anybody know how long ago this iPod was updated
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16:25 < smacmac> hi again. Doeas anybody know?
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18:09 < Ravenlost> Hello. Has anyone here made an ipod shuffle (512M) work with gtkpod ?
18:10 < Ravenlost> If anyone has a few minutes to spear.... :-)
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18:12 < fanfoue> hi
18:12 < fanfoue> what happens here ? http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Downloads
18:12 < fanfoue> there's a lot of links to a pills website
18:13 < Tonkajds> spam
18:13 < fanfoue> :(
18:17 < Ravenlost> anyone here?
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18:38 < aegray> pills fixed
18:39 < Tonkajds> thx
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18:42 < aegray> did somebody mess up screenshots too?
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18:42 < aegray> yea nm
18:42 < aegray> revert
18:43 < _Splice> wow i just booted ipodlinux for the 1st time! wow this is to cool... so my ipods like a mini pc now?
18:44 < fub> when ur updating a kernel it says uninstall ipod linux does this mean uninstall linux off the ipod it self  or just off ur operating system
18:44 < aegray> off ipod i thnk
18:45 < fub> how do I do this
18:45 < coob> you read the wiki and follow the instructions
18:46 < fub> does it do it from the installer?
18:46 < aegray> hey coob can you ban people on the wiki or is that veteran/
18:47 < coob> :/ vet/luke need to do that
18:47 < aegray> k
18:47 < fub> what's wiki?
18:48 < _Splice> omg
18:48 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/
18:48 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Project_Status <- mm pretty!
18:48 < BleuLlama> nice
18:48 < smacmac> Do anyone know what to do if I have an really fucked up iPod: It does only display either Ok to disconnect or Do not disconnect. It works as a hardisk, but is impossible to reboot or reeset. Even when disconnected it just stands OK to disconnect. It is 3G
18:49 < smacmac> It does not have linux
18:49 < BleuLlama> call apple.
18:49 < _Splice> heh
18:49 < BleuLlama> if it's still under warranty, they'll probably replace it
18:49 < BleuLlama> maybe your hold switch is stuck
18:50 < _Splice> upgrade/restore software
18:50 < aegray> haha
18:50 < aegray> that is pretty
18:51 < _Splice> what kinda picture files can the filebrowser handle?
18:51 < coob> jpeg/gif
18:51 < _Splice> anysize?
18:51 < aegray> it should
18:51 < coob> it scales them.. read the wiki
18:51 < _Splice> noway! this i have to test
18:51 < _Splice> get some nudies on there
18:52 < coob> you may need to update your podzilla to view pictures from digital cameras (exif jpegs)
18:52 < smacmac> If it is stucked on hold might that make it impossible to reboot?
18:52 < BleuLlama> maybe.  i dunno.
18:52 < _Splice> u could wait till battery dies
18:53 < BleuLlama> if hold is on, you can't manually reboot via the front buttons
18:53 < smacmac> ok
18:53 < BleuLlama> battery dying won't help.
18:53 < _Splice> nah? i though he needed to reboot
18:53 < smacmac> I tried restore it, but then it just never showed the connect image
18:53 < BleuLlama> apple firmware will jsut go to sleep if the battery is too low
18:53 < fanfoue> hey the sounds is nearly working on the photo with the last cvs
18:53 < fanfoue> good job guys :)
18:53 < BleuLlama> it won't actually reboot
18:54 < coob> i need to crack open my 4g and get some proper scans f the pcb
18:54 < coob> i just scanned a router
18:54 < aegray> it works on photo
18:54 < coob> came out quite well
18:54 < aegray> it should at least
18:55 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/wag54gv1/
18:55 < _Splice> i open my ipod on a regular basis i got it loose enough so well placed fingernails caan crack the case open
18:55 < coob> after a little photoshoping of course :)
18:56 < fanfoue> aegray, do you have progress with your video player ?
18:56 < BleuLlama> i just picked up a linksys 54g
18:56 < coob> the wag54g is awful
18:56 < coob> v1 at least
18:56 < fanfoue> the wrt54g also :)
18:56 < coob> i bought a wrt54g to replace it
18:56 < coob> it's running http://openwrt.org/
18:56 < fanfoue> wrt54g rox :)
18:57 < fanfoue> sveasoft for me
18:57 < BleuLlama> i got the wrt54g
18:57 < coob> i liike being able to ssh into appliances :)
18:57 < BleuLlama> it's been awesome
18:57 < aegray> not really - my comp is still shot - i have a sound version but its running into problems with the fiq
18:57 < coob> ugh sveasoft
18:57 < coob> gpl ripoffs!
18:57 < aegray> and I can't do too much till compaq sends me the new hd
18:57 < aegray> i'll post any progress to that thread
18:57 < fanfoue> yeah I know but it's easier to use than openwrt (or it was when i updated my router)
18:57 < smacmac> Do you know any way of forceing the iPod to reboot from the mac
18:57 < smacmac> ?
18:58 < coob> yes
18:58 < coob> write to the firmware partition
18:58 < coob> and eject
18:58 < coob> and it'll reboot
18:58 < coob> 4gs will anyway
18:58 < smacmac> How?
18:58 < aegray> dd if=software of=/dev/disk1s2
18:58 < aegray> or whichever diskxs2 it is
18:59 < aegray> mount to find that out usually
18:59 < smacmac> dd: software: No such file or directory
19:00 < aegray> in terminal it doesnt have this?
19:00 < aegray> use the mac installer
19:00 < aegray> it writes to firmware
19:00 < BleuLlama> do an ipod restore.
19:00 < aegray> good call
19:00 < smacmac> OK. I will try that again.
19:00 < _Splice> <--4g owner
19:01 < coob> hm what does a jtag port usually look like
19:01 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/wag54gv1/wag54gv1-front.jpg <-- spot it :)
19:02 < BleuLlama> CN8 maybe?
19:02 < BleuLlama> trace the jtag pins on the processor
19:02 < BleuLlama> maybe CN2
19:02 < BleuLlama> or CN9
19:03 < coob> yeah i was thinking cn9
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19:03 < coob> ouh
19:03 < coob> cn7 is where all the ports are :/
19:04 < _Splice> friggin genious's
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19:06 < coob> ah wait
19:11 < _Splice> waiting...
19:13 < BleuLlama> looks like jtag can be 20 pins?
19:13 < fub> yeah jtags usally 16 18 pins
19:13 < fub> on stuff I work on
19:14 < fub> I'm thinking cn2
19:14 < BleuLlama> CN2 then
19:14 < fub> but they only use 6 of em and 1 ground
19:15 < fub> I mean 5 and a ground
19:15 < BleuLlama> looks like many of them are tied to the ground plane.  that's probably it then.
19:16 < fub> coob  do u want a file on making a simple jtag with a db25 and 5 resistors?
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19:21 < fub> the lower right is what u want  the pin configuration
19:23 < fub> the resistor are 100ohm 1/4 or 1/2 watt for pins 2 3 4 5 and 13  ground  is pin 25 no resistor for that
19:23 < smacmac> Is there any way to just make a iPod (3G) act 100%
19:23 < smacmac>  as a portable hardisk
19:23 < fub> keep wires 12-18 inches
19:24 < wembley> smacmac, why would you want that?
19:24 < wembley> you can buy a better/cheaper usb drive
19:25 < smacmac> because my 3G does not reboot
19:25 < fessiers> smacmac reboot it in disk mode
19:25 < smacmac> but it cannot reboot
19:25 < wembley> can't reboot?
19:26 < smacmac> I restored it, but it just says I need to restart it to complete the update
19:26 < aegray> do that
19:26 < aegray> what gen is it
19:26 < aegray> ?
19:26 < smacmac> 3G
19:26 < aegray> is it menu and select you hold in? i think the middle two to reset
19:26 < BleuLlama> the button config for 3g is on the wiki
19:26 < aegray> and theres your answer
19:27 < smacmac> It does not help. Even if I hold them for 30 secs it does not reboot
19:27 < fessiers> The button config is linked from the troubleshooting page at http://ipodlinux.org/Troubleshooting .. look for Key Combinations
19:27 < smacmac> I know the key combinations of by heart for every gen
19:28 < smacmac> and I have checked the wiki to be shure
19:28 < aegray> is it plugged in when you do it?
19:28 < aegray> mine wouldn't restart unless it was plugged in, i flipped on the hold switch then back off, then did the buttons
19:28 < smacmac> I have tried it plugged in and not plugged in
19:29 < smacmac> plugged to my pismo and plugged to the wall
19:29 < fessiers> did you check the hold switch?
19:30 < fessiers> aegray - nice work on the avi player
19:30 < smacmac> I have checked it tons of times. It might be stucked
19:30 < Tonkajds> is it possible that the hold switch is not set properly on the actual switch on the inside of the ipod?
19:30 < aegray> thanks
19:30 < smacmac> And therefore I have to ask: Is there any way of just using it as a hardisk
19:30 < fessiers> I guess we dont have sound yet on that 4g, right?
19:30 < Tonkajds> and there-for cant take it off hold?
19:30 < smacmac> yes
19:30 < Tonkajds> take it apart then
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19:31 < fessiers> or wait for the power to die
19:31 < aegray> i'd say call apple before taking it apart
19:31 < aegray> but even if power dies hold switch is still stuck
19:32 < BleuLlama> power. wont. die.
19:32 < BleuLlama> it will get very low, apple firmware will put it to sleep
19:32 < coob> are you sure you're holding the reset combo for long enough?
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19:32 < BleuLlama> apple firmware (unlike ipodlinux) will shut down before power gets too low that it can't sync the disk
19:32 < BleuLlama> coob: he held it for 30 seconds
19:32 < BleuLlama> fact of the matter is that this is not an ipod linux problem
19:32 < coob> maybe he has fat fingers
19:32 < BleuLlama> call apple to resolve it
19:32 < fessiers> aegray - I'm very interested in audio/video syncronization work for the video playback you've started on.  But I guess I need to wait for audio to happen on 4g.
19:33 < coob> fessiers: audio is on 4g
19:33 < fessiers> I guess I need new kernel builds, then coob!
19:33 < coob> i guess you do.
19:33 < BleuLlama> i guess you should read the blog as well
19:34 < kingNothing> how's the current 4g status? i've seen the "let there be sound" blog message..
19:34 < BleuLlama> are you blind?  last updated may 22
19:35  * BleuLlama does the math
19:35 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Project_Status
19:35 < BleuLlama> i'd say it's one day old
19:36 < aegray> fessiers; right now - just getting the audio to play is a problem because the fiq on the cop is causing problems (ie freezes)
19:36 < kingNothing> okay.. let me rephrase the question: are the changes already 'commited' to the nightly builds and/or has anyone already tried it.
19:36 < coob> yes yes
19:37 < kingNothing> coob: thx.
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19:41 < kingNothing> another question: i've only got a usb connection to my ipod.. is it still possible to access the ipod (i assume that usb disk access still works) via the network?
19:41 < kingNothing> (usb-gadget or usb-net would come to mind)
19:41 < coob> no.
19:41 < BleuLlama> it sure would be nice if this information were answered on a webpage somewhere. these seem like common questions... hmmm....
19:41 < fessiers> aegray - I'm still setting up my build host, but I hope to assist you in some way when I'm ready.
19:42 < kingNothing> usb/scsi access works?
19:42 < coob> no.
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19:42 < aegray> i'd be up for that
19:42 < aegray> which ipod gen do you have?
19:42 < fessiers> 4g photo 40gb
19:42 < kingNothing> okay.. could you pleast put this info up on the web page? would really help a lot
19:42 < aegray> haha
19:42 < coob> kingNothing: it's already there.
19:42 < coob> you just not looking hard enough.
19:42 < aegray> sarcasm is wasted sometimes
19:43 < kingNothing> okay.. shame on me.
19:43 < BleuLlama> apparantly
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19:44 < Tonkajds> seems like we are having fun :'( i feel so left out
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19:48 < kingNothing> okay.. checked the web site again.. i thought the status page was the 4g status page.. mea culpa.
19:48 < wembley> is the playback on 4g buffered?
19:48 < coob> yes
19:48 < coob> for mp3/aac
19:49 < wembley> not for wave though?
19:49 < coob> no
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19:49 < wembley> ok
19:49 < coob> as wave files tend to be, well, big.
19:49 < wembley> i was wondering because it was using the disk and i didn't know if it should have been
19:49 < coob> and we don't have a decetn buffering system yet
19:49 < coob> feel free to write one
19:50 < _Splice> my Ver wont even try playing music files says "audio playback is unsupported on this hardware"
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19:50 < aegray> you have to update podzilla
19:50 < _Splice> but oh well right ill use apples firm
19:50 < wembley> and the kernel
19:51 < _Splice> not that i have any aac or flac or anything else
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19:52 < _Splice> im more than satisfied with dualbooting oh well i cant listen to music an play bluecube :(  least it all works.. in one os or another... git me?
19:52 < aegray> someday it will
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19:53 < _Splice> what sound codecs u guys messin with? anyhow?
19:55 < BleuLlama> I'm working on getting the Forte Systems G354.a and G354.j codecs running.  I've got them a little over 100% realtime right now.
19:55 < coob> haha
19:57 < BleuLlama> i figure the average person has as many G354.a files as they do .ogg files, so it should be supported.  G354.j is just an added bonus
19:57 < BleuLlama> since .j is a subset of .a, you get it for free. ;)
19:57 < wembley> what is it?
19:57  * wembley never heard of it
19:59 < BleuLlama> it's used on the other project i'm on for doing audio recordings for astronomical observation logs
19:59 < BleuLlama> it's part RLE, part mu-law compression.  it's strange.
19:59 < BleuLlama> silence/background noise is time-compressed, speech is not.
19:59 < BleuLlama> and there's a subchannel with a timecode on it, usually hooked up to a GPS or some other realtime clock
20:01 < wembley> hrrm
20:01 < wembley> sounds intense
20:01 < BleuLlama> it's pretty boring, actually.
20:03 < smacmac> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Screenshots - what is all the links at the bottom?
20:03 < aegray> I fixed that
20:03 < aegray> damn it
20:03 < BleuLlama> gotta love the NASA names for things, eh?  (G354 is the Nasa document that describes the file format.  Our project is only using .a and .j layers though)
20:04 < Tonkajds> WTF is all this spam doing here, who is so pissed off?
20:04  * BleuLlama still thinks that people should need to be explicitly allowed to edit before they can
20:04 < aegray> fixed
20:04 < aegray> yes - i would agree with that
20:04 < Tonkajds> i second the motion
20:07 < BleuLlama> Tonkajds: no. and don't pm me.
20:07 < wembley> anyone know approx. what the battery difference in between ipl and the appleos?
20:07 < aegray> which ipod?
20:07 < wembley> photo
20:07 < BleuLlama> take worst possible case scenario for appleos.  that's what linux will be, at best
20:07 < Tonkajds> ok, mt bad
20:08 < Tonkajds> my*
20:08 < wembley> is there any hope of having it get better?
20:08 < aegray> Yes
20:08 < wembley> oh man, i had an awesome idea
20:09 < smacmac> but someone needs to spend a lot of time on it
20:09 < aegray> what was it
20:09 < wembley> but not very likely that is would work
20:09 < wembley> making an antenna that takes power from radio/tv
20:09 < wembley> or bluetooth, wifi, or anything that power can be taken from
20:10 < wembley> with radio or tv, there has to be at least 5V floating around
20:10 < BleuLlama> smacmac: you just volunteered.  have fun
20:10 < aegray> i'm confused
20:11 < wembley> do FM transmitions carry any power?
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20:12 < BleuLlama> heh
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20:14 < wembley> oh man, it does
20:14 < wembley> but probably not enough
20:15 < BleuLlama> yeah. that's why pocket radios don't need batteries.  they just use the power mysteriously coming over the fm transmission airwaves.
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20:16 < wembley> they only tune to one frequency
20:16 < BleuLlama> all radio-based devices are like that. the battery is only there to keep the machine weighted down, so it doesn't foat up into space.  gravity, you know.
20:16  * aegray just wet his pants
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20:16 < wembley> there is no need to be a sarcastic asshole dude
20:16  * aegray from laughing
20:17 < aegray> its in fun
20:17 < Jackkhzjd> It was pretty funny.
20:18 < wembley> there are things powered from bluettooth, right?
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20:18 < aegray> i don't think so
20:18 < BleuLlama> heh.
20:19 < BleuLlama> um.  no.
20:19 < wembley> lame :(
20:19 < Jackkhzjd> Bluetooth is a standardized frequency...
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20:23 < Jackkhzjd> It's 2.45 gHz
20:23 < BleuLlama> same as 802.11b/g, and many phones
20:25 < Jackkhzjd> wembley: This might be of interest to you - the air won't help power something, but some fries could
20:25 < Jackkhzjd> http://www.miniscience.com/projects/PotatoElectricity/
20:25 < BleuLlama> i know you can make a pickle glow by plugging it in to the wall
20:25 < BleuLlama> perhaps you could plug a pickle into a potato, and have a flashlight!
20:25 < Jackkhzjd> Hahahah.
20:26 < BleuLlama> seriously though, there are radios that don't need batteries.  Crystal radios.  They receive basically one AM station, and there's barely enough power to drive an earphone, if you're lucky
20:26 < BleuLlama> i had one years ago, but i never got it to work.
20:27 < BleuLlama> in order to have enough power to power something, you'd need a high power microwave transmitter or high powered laser... but they're somewhat directional, and not very cost-effective.
20:27 < BleuLlama> and you wouldn't want to be anywhere near the front of it.
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20:28 < BleuLlama> on that note, i'm going back to work. heh.
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20:38 < Kate6> So um
20:39 < Kate6> The main thing missing for 4G support now is that the CPU isn't running at full speed, right?
20:39 < BleuLlama> audio recording
20:39 < Kate6> ...
20:39 < Kate6> iPods can do audio recording?
20:39 < aegray> wow
20:39 < aegray> wait - i thought the 4g could
20:39 < aegray> just not stably
20:39 < BleuLlama> 3g and 4g can.  look up the iTalk
20:39 < aegray> if thats a word
20:39 < Kate6> I just got mine last week, if it can do that, I haven't found out about it yet.
20:40 < Kate6> K...  *goes to look up iTalk*
20:40 < BleuLlama> or the belkin microphone.
20:40 < BleuLlama> they're both the same thing, really
20:40 < Kate6> Oh.
20:40 < BleuLlama> "Belkin voice recorder"
20:40 < Kate6> Wow.
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20:40 < aegray> with linux at least on a 3g you can do it without buying anything
20:40 < BleuLlama> not for 1g or 2g
20:41  * Kate6 nods.
20:41 < BleuLlama> correct
20:41 < Kate6> I have a 20gig 4G.
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20:42 < Kate6> I'm not sure if I care too much about voice recording though...  But I do like the idea of having Linux for my firmware...  Being able to add FLAC support and through that, and to code things up for it myself...
20:42 < Kate6> Would be really neato.
20:42 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away
20:42 < aegray> try it out
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20:42 < Kate6> Hmmm.
20:42 < Kate6> You know, I ought to...  At least I should look at how the install works.
20:43  * Kate6 goes to do that.
20:44 < BleuLlama> Kate, assuming things based on your name, i think you might be the only woman to come in here, at least in the past 6 months. ;)
20:45 < BleuLlama> quite possibly longer.
20:45 < aegray> is courtc a guy?
20:45 < aegray> i figured courtney
20:45 < coob> yep he's a he :)
20:45 < BleuLlama> i'm 99% sure courtney is a guy
20:45 < BleuLlama> heh
20:46 < Kate6> Heh.
20:46 < Kate6> Am I really?
20:46 < BleuLlama> as far as I know, yes.
20:47 < Kate6> Should I be scared?
20:47 < BleuLlama> are you a CS type person, or just an ipod enthusiast?
20:47 < BleuLlama> probably. ;)
20:47 < coob> Kate6: someone got flac running really well
20:47 < Kate6> I'm a CS type person.  Linux user for about about a decade now...
20:47 < BleuLlama> nice.  :)
20:47 < Kate6> Have a bachelor's in CS, graduated summa cum laude...
20:47 < coob> http://mpd.wikicities.com/wiki/MusicPlayerDaemonUclinuxBranch
20:47 < Luke> from where?
20:47 < BleuLlama> there aren't enough women in CS.
20:47 < Kate6> From UC Irvine.
20:48 < BleuLlama> cool.
20:48 < Kate6> Not particularly impressive.
20:48 < Kate6> But an okay school.
20:48 < Luke> i've never heard of ot =)
20:48  * BleuLlama nods
20:48 < Luke> it*
20:48 < coob> Luke: not sure if it's your or vets department, but we need some ip blockage on the wiki
20:48 < coob> few spam accounts been set up
20:48 < aegray> bastards
20:48  * BleuLlama graduated suma cum nothing at Rochester Institute of Technology around 1997ish
20:48 < Luke> coob: i can handle that - what'r the names?
20:48 < Kate6> The kernel's a 2.4.xxx kernel?
20:48 < aegray> arg they changed downloads again
20:49 < coob> Luke: there's a few, check the recent changes
20:49 < Luke> coob: k
20:49 < BleuLlama> yeah.  noone's worked on getting 2.6 working, and i think there were some issues with 2.6 on uclinux/ipod.
20:49 < aegray> fixed
20:49 < Luke> we used to work on the 2.6
20:49 < Luke> but it didnt look promising
20:49 < BleuLlama> what luke said
20:49 < Luke> the hardware just couldnt handle it
20:50  * BleuLlama goes back to work.
20:50 < coob> haha it can
20:50 < Luke> =)
20:50 < coob> it just needs a little work
20:50 < Luke> that'd be cool if you could
20:50 < coob> and the kernel devs are busy with stuff other than moving to 2.6
20:50 < Luke> true
20:50 < aegray> what woudl 2.6 get us?
20:50 < coob> it's just not really a top priority
20:50 < coob> aegray: not much :/
20:50 < BleuLlama> aegray: 0.2 more!
20:50 < coob> maybe some internal nicetys
20:50 < aegray> the scheduler
20:51 < BleuLlama> i read that as "nice ttys"
20:51 < BleuLlama> heh.
20:51 < aegray> ha
20:53 < Luke> hahahaha
20:53 < aegray> coob: is there a real way to rever the page or just copy paste
20:53 < aegray> revert*
20:53 < Luke> on the wiki?
20:53 < aegray> because that extra amp got added in when I pasted
20:53 < aegray> yea
20:53 < coob> um i go to an old revision
20:53 < coob> click edit
20:53 < coob> then save
20:53 < aegray> that savees it as current?
20:53 < coob> yes
20:53 < aegray> ok
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21:05 < Jackkhzjd> Do you folks know the maximum bitrate to record on an iPod using the headphones as a mic? Is it the full 96kbps and crappy quality, or would it be lower?
21:06 < Jackkhzjd> ...either on the 2/3Gen or on the upcoming support for the 4g...
21:06 < aegray> i think its 96kb crappy quality based on your headphones
21:07 < aegray> the quality depends on your mic
21:07 < zsr> ill ask for him, what is the bitrate it records at
21:07 < aegray> it can record at up to 96kbs
21:07 < aegray> kbps*
21:07 < zsr> k
21:07 < aegray> read the product brief of the audio chip
21:07 < aegray> it has all the info
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21:17 < Jackkhzjd> So, at 96kbps, is the quality with the headphones any good?
21:17 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit []
21:17 < Jackkhzjd> aegray: where?
21:17 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux
21:17 < aegray> on the wiki http://www.ipodlinux.org/Generations
21:18 < aegray> i think
21:18 < aegray> there should be a ling to each component
21:18 < aegray> link*
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21:19 < Jackkhzjd> Thank you.
21:19 < aegray> yep
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21:31 < _Splice> can my ipod extract a*.tar.gz?
21:34 < Luke> if you have tar installed on your ipod =p
21:34 < Luke> i think you want to untar it on your computer first though
21:35 < _Splice> im using cygwin and tar doesnt seem to be working right
21:35 < aegray> winzip usually works on tars
21:40 < Kate6> Why are Windows people playing with iPodLinux?
21:40 < dsh-1> _Splice: tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
21:41 < aegray> for fun
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21:41 < Kate6> Don't they know that they're playing with powers beyond their CONTROL?!
21:41 < coob> haha
21:41 < coob> i agree
21:41 < coob> windows users should be spayed and neutered
21:41  * Kate6 giggles.
21:41  * coob hides tablet running xp
21:42 < Kate6> Well, spayed.
21:42 < coob> .whois kate6
21:42 < aegray> whoops coob
21:42 < coob> you've not been in here before have you?
21:42 < coob> maybe once, ages ago?
21:42 < Kate6> Hmm?
21:42 < Kate6> No, I'm new, I just got my iPod last week.
21:42 < coob> hm ok
21:42 < coob> maybe that was kate5
21:42 < Kate6> I'm definitely Kate *6*.
21:43 < coob> what's with that?
21:43 < Kate6> Ever seen an old British TV show called "The Prisoner"?
21:43 < Kate6> It's from that.
21:44 < coob> ah, no i've only ever seen pisstakes of it
21:44 < Kate6> "Pisstakes"?
21:45 < coob> things making fun of it
21:45 < BleuLlama> one of my friends really likes The Prisoner.  Good show from what he's told me. i've never sene it though
21:45 < Kate6> Oh.
21:45 < coob> think there was a simpsons ep where homer gets chased by an orb i think
21:45 < Kate6> Yeah, it's pretty common for stuff to allude to it.  There was a really good Simpsons episode a few seasons ago that did.
21:45 < _Splice> winzip works i juts had to install it :P
21:45 < aegray> there you go
21:45 < _Splice> is the tablet so u can take a dump coob and still shoot the shit!
21:45 < Kate6> Oh, no, it's not just the orb...  The whole second half of that episode is a big elaborate Prisoner spoof.
21:46 < coob> yep
21:46 < Kate6> I've got it on VCD.
21:46 < _Splice> id love that
21:46 < coob> _Splice: you understand me too well
21:46 < coob> shame the wireless on the tablet is crappy :/
21:47 < _Splice> more like understand oneself then understanding others and the universe come natural
21:47 < coob> this house is 200 years old, and has a 4ft thick moat wall between the base station and the toilet :/
21:47 < coob> put down the joint man haha
21:48 < _Splice> gawd windows sucks... repetitive mouse click and move bs
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21:49 < zsr> 05/19/2005 	48688002 	D4520714 	Eric Smith 	Order Created
21:49 < zsr> 05/19/2005 	48688002 	D4520714 	Eric Smith 	Repair Requested
21:49 < zsr> 05/20/2005 	48688002 	D4520714 	Eric Smith 	Item Shipped
21:49 < zsr> 05/23/2005 	48688002 	D4520714 	Eric Smith 	Unit Received
21:49 < zsr> sheet
21:49 < zsr> sorry
21:49 < zsr> :(
21:49 < zsr> lovely
21:50 < coob> no worries Mr. Smith!
21:50 < zsr> lol
21:50 < zsr> ah heya coob :)
21:51 < BleuLlama> mister anderson...
21:51  * coob slap
21:51 < zsr> damnit
21:51  * coob daft punk - technologic
21:51  * BleuLlama slapped
21:51  * BleuLlama Philip Glass - "Girlfriend"
21:51 < coob> bl you should do a video edit for this :D
21:51 < BleuLlama> HA!
21:52 < BleuLlama> which album is it on?
21:52 < coob> new one
21:52  * BleuLlama checks to see if he has it
21:52 < coob> human after all
21:52  * zsr Dr. Dre - Gin & Juice :O
21:52 < coob> zsr i reccomend you get yourself some richard cheese
21:52  * Vanquisher|Away :: Wintersun - Beyond the Dark Sun [2m38s][320 kbit/s][44100 Hz]
21:52 < Vanquisher|Away> :)
21:53 < zsr> richard cheese
21:53 < zsr> hmm
21:53 < coob> specifically his cover of gin & juice
21:53 < coob> he covers modern songs in a lounge (think frank sinatra) style
21:53 < Vanquisher|Away> oh
21:53 < zsr> oo
21:53 -!- Vanquisher|Away is now known as Vanquisher
21:53 < Vanquisher> coob, that daft punk is from ipod commerical :)
21:53 < coob> (not his real name... um, think of short names for richard :) )
21:53 < coob> vanq no way :/
21:53 < Vanquisher> coob, do u have the other song :)
21:53  * coob can't listen to it now :(
21:54 < Vanquisher> why
21:54  * Vanquisher :: Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc [3m41s][192 kbit/s][44100 Hz]
21:54 < coob> because i'll be a walking ipod advert.
21:54 < Vanquisher> thats the other song :)
21:54 < coob> that too? nooo!
21:54 < BleuLlama> yeah. Richard Cheese is pretty amusing
21:54 < Vanquisher> :D
21:54 < BleuLlama> lounge covers of popular songs
21:54 < zsr> coob, how so?
21:54 < coob> yeah, the shuffle ad ruined caesers - jerk it out for me.
21:54 < Vanquisher> coob, i heared the 4G got audio support...
21:54 < coob> it did.
21:54 < coob> read the blog
21:54 < Vanquisher> :0
21:54 < Vanquisher> ;0
21:54 < Vanquisher> :)*
21:54 < zsr> lies!
21:55 < Vanquisher> coob, where u the mastermind behind this great thing :)
21:55 < coob> caesars - sort it out has nice uplifting lyrics ('i wanna smoke crack because you're never coming back...')
21:55 < coob> no
21:55 < coob> point you clappers at leachbj
21:56 < coob> your*
21:56 < Vanquisher> :)
21:56 < Vanquisher> he still hasnt fixed the color thing
21:56 < Vanquisher> but in time...
21:56 < BleuLlama> clappers. heh.
21:56 < aegray> what color thing?
21:56 < Vanquisher> aegray, the colors are messed up on the photo
21:56 < Vanquisher> aegray, with the new firmware
21:56 < aegray> with audio?
21:57 < Vanquisher> i just said the colors
21:57 < zsr> lol
21:57 < zsr> someone reads well
21:57 < Vanquisher> lol
21:57 < aegray> i meant the new firmware with color
21:57 < aegray> damn it
21:57 < aegray> with audio*
21:57 < zsr> hehe
21:57 < aegray> arg
21:57 < Vanquisher> right
21:57 < Vanquisher> anyway yes
21:57 < Vanquisher> 1.1
21:57 < coob> yeah the 1.1 flash update leaves the lcd in an odd config i think
21:57 < Vanquisher> there is something wrong makes the matrix red, instead of green...
21:58 < BleuLlama> BLOOD
21:58 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, thats what i said
21:58 < Vanquisher> :)
21:58  * zsr farts
21:58 < Vanquisher> neo died
21:58 < Vanquisher> zsr, beautiful
21:58  * zsr wafts it over to Vanquisher
21:58 < coob> it's probably rgb->brg or something
21:58  * Vanquisher dies
21:58 < zsr> 8)
21:59 < Vanquisher> coob, yeah it turns the boot up screen to a deep blue, so it kinda blends in, with the background instead of the red it used to be
21:59 < aegray> theres a boot screen?
22:00 < aegray> wow i'm off today
22:00 < aegray> is compiling from cvs supposed to give you this or no?
22:04  * zsr hopes he gets a new iPod from apple
22:05 < coob> i think he's talking about the kernel's startup messages :)
22:05 < aegray> ohk
22:06 < BleuLlama> coob: dig this song. :D
22:07  * BleuLlama listening to Daft Punk - "Human After All"
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22:08 < coob> the track or the album?
22:08 < BleuLlama> album
22:08 < BleuLlama> "Technologic" playing now. :D
22:09 < coob> http://daringfireball.net/ <-- haha at that dialogue box :)
22:09 < BleuLlama> heh
22:09 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, na :)
22:09  * Vanquisher :: Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc [3m41s][192 kbit/s][44100 Hz]
22:10 < Vanquisher> thats where its at :)
22:10 < BleuLlama> a radio station was playing their entire album this morning, with interview bits with the band members in their characters
22:10 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, how was it
22:10 < BleuLlama> I have the first Gorillaz album.
22:10 < BleuLlama> the new one sounded really good
22:11 < Vanquisher> yeah :)
22:11 < BleuLlama> when you have that many talented musicians together, you're gonna end up with some good music
22:11 < Vanquisher> i like the commerical with this song in it
22:11 < Vanquisher> apple picks good music
22:11 < BleuLlama> much like THe Eagles.  Like their stuff or don't, you have to admit that they're good songwriters.
22:11 < Vanquisher> yeah
22:11 < Vanquisher> why the sold the most records of all time
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22:11  * BleuLlama nods
22:11 < Vanquisher> they
22:12 < Vanquisher> something like 43 million
22:12 < Vanquisher> dont know the exact figure
22:12 < BleuLlama> heck, Douglas Adamas must've liked them, since their "Journey Of The Sorceror" was the theme music for Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. ;)
22:12 < Vanquisher> :)
22:12 < Vanquisher> im gonna have to get the new gorillaz album
22:12 < Vanquisher> now
22:12 < BleuLlama> i need to get more Harold Faltermeyer stuff, now that I think of it
22:12 < nfotx> anyone in here has sash working on the photo?
22:13 < coob> demon days? it's ok
22:13 < Vanquisher> yeah
22:13 < Vanquisher> coob, was their old one better?
22:13 < Vanquisher> i love this Feel Good Inc song though, i could listen to it for awile....
22:13 < zsr> anyone play gta:sa?
22:13 < coob> demon days is a best of i think?
22:13 < BleuLlama> i do.  i like vice city more, even though SA has a bigger world
22:13 < coob> it has client eastwood on it at least
22:14 < nfotx> when entering commands, they don't show up before the play key is pressed... is this a general issue with the photo, or did i screw up somewhere?
22:14 < Vanquisher> coob, wtf
22:14 < coob> nfotx: kernel framebuffer hasn't been written for the photo yet
22:15 < coob> microwindows one has tho
22:15 < BleuLlama> i prefer double bass or 19-2000
22:15 < coob> so the console will be a bit off
22:15 < nfotx> aaah... that's probably why then ;)
22:15 < nfotx> thanks for the info :)
22:15 < coob> double bass is on demon days..
22:15 < BleuLlama> Clint Eastwood was overplayed, although the video is cool. hehe.
22:15 < coob> as is 19-2000
22:16 < coob> i heard they suck live
22:16 < coob> as they just play behind a screen to keep up the whole animated thing
22:16 < BleuLlama> 19-2000 is track 11 on their first album, double bass is track 9
22:17 < BleuLlama> they're not on demon days...
22:17 < coob> um, they're on the copy i have :)
22:18 < BleuLlama> want me to point you to the amazon page?
22:18 < BleuLlama> your cd must be a bootleg then
22:18 < Vanquisher> and the lag ensues....
22:18 < coob> not a cd
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22:20 < BleuLlama> hmm.  this is good, but i think i like Discovery more.
22:20 < coob> it does have 23 tracks heh
22:20 < BleuLlama> um. yeah. there you go.  Demon days has 15 tracks
22:20 < BleuLlama> geg
22:20 < BleuLlama> er
22:20 < BleuLlama> heh
22:21 < coob> hm yeah was some bootleg
22:22 < coob> 'Its nuked my friend.  It's merely the advance copy cd floating around, reencoded to a different bitrate, and some songs from their first cd added.'
22:23 < BleuLlama> ah. heh
22:23 < coob> i got ripped :)
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22:32 < _Splice> this is too cool !  if i had anymoney to my name id give it all to ipodlinux
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22:32 < _Splice> sh heh  behold ipods shell!
22:33 < BleuLlama> i just gave $300 to one of the main devs of ipodlinux.
22:34 < BleuLlama> granted, it was to myself
22:34 < BleuLlama> but still.
22:34 < BleuLlama> :p
22:34  * BleuLlama goes home
22:35 < coob> i give 3 quid every day to feed a dev
22:35 < coob> gotta love terkish cafes
22:35 < coob> turkish ones too
22:41 < Luke> coob: vet's gotta check the apache log to get all the ip's the wiki is being spammed from - make sure you remind him if you see him in here later =) he's at work right now and doesnt have time to go thro and ban the ip's
22:42 < coob> ah ok
22:43 < _Splice> who's being baned
22:43 < BleuLlama> you
22:43  * BleuLlama goes hoome
22:43  * BleuLlama goes home too
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23:19 < courtc> It feels good to know people know my gender.
23:20 < Luke> what that your a woman =p
23:20 < aegray> wanna go out sometime?
23:20 < aegray> bahaha
23:20 < courtc> hmm.. I was wrong
23:21 < Luke> hehehe
23:21 < coob> it could be worse, you could be a shape :/
23:21 < courtc> good point
23:26 -!- Z_Man [~Z_Man@cpe-24-209-92-145.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux
23:27 < Z_Man> can someone ssh into my system and install the lastest ipodlinux on my 2nd gen mini so i can test it for leachbj?
23:27 < Z_Man> i'm not good at that stuff
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23:32 < Z_Man> anyone alive?
23:33 < Kate6> No.  We're all dead.
23:33 < Kate6> There was a terrorist attack.
23:34 -!- _Splice is now known as Cout
23:34 < Z_Man> aah... so you all in heven?
23:34 < Kate6> Freedom fighters wanted to destroy the evil iPod Linux rebels.  They feel Apple products should remain pure and true.
23:34 < Kate6> Are we?
23:34 < Kate6> Is that why David Bowie's in the other room?
23:34 < Kate6> ... Makes sense.
23:35 < Z_Man> lol
23:35 < Kate6> ;)
23:35 < Kate6> Seriously though
23:35 < Luke> Kate6: haha did you read that from somewhere?
23:36 < Kate6> You having trouble following the instructions?
23:36 < Kate6> I'm about to try doing it myself to my 4G.
23:36 < Kate6> Luke: Read what somewhere?
23:36 < Luke>  7:34 < Kate6> Freedom fighters wanted to destroy the evil iPod Linux rebels.  They feel Apple products should remain pure and true.
23:36 < Kate6> Luke: Um, no, I was just joking around.
23:36 < Luke> haha oh
23:36 < Luke> that'd have been a funny news story =)
23:37 < Kate6> Luke: Even if they did, fuck em'.  I love the idea of putting Linux on my iPod.  Turn my fancy MP3 player into something I can hack around with myself.
23:37 < Z_Man> yeah but ipl isn't booting on my ipod
23:38 < Z_Man> i need help
23:38 < aegray> did you ever get a dump of the bootloader?
23:38 < Z_Man> what bootloader?
23:38 < aegray> you have a 2g mini right/
23:38 < aegray> ?*
23:38 < Z_Man> yes
23:39 < aegray> maybe i'm thinking of somebody else
23:39 < Z_Man> yeah i have a 2nd gen mini
23:39 < Kate6> Is there a different boot loader necessary?  I only saw a kernel and an iPodZilla in the 4G-specific folder.
23:39 < Kate6> Grabbed the bootloader and the userland stuff from the regular sourceforge project page.
23:40 < Kate6> Sorry, err, I mean the nightly builds folder.
23:40 < aegray> 2nd gen mini won't boot yet
23:40 < aegray> unless leachbj gave you something to try
23:40 < courtc> Kate6, use the cvs bootloader
23:40 < Z_Man> yes i know... but..................... leachbj said he had a kernel in the cvs... that might boot
23:41 < aegray> ok
23:41 < Kate6> courtc: Does that mean I have to build it myself?
23:41 < aegray> yea
23:41 < Z_Man> and i couldnt try it cause i'm very new to cvs
23:41 < Kate6> K.
23:41 < Z_Man> and my cvs checkout thing didnt work...
23:41 < aegray> Z_Man: did you do all the "set cvsroot=" and "cvs login"?
23:41 < aegray> or just cvs checkout?
23:42 < Z_Man> a cvs checkout
23:42 < Z_Man> either way.. i'd like someone to do it for me over ssh, just so i can know someone did it right
23:42 < aegray> i can do it tonight if you want
23:42 < aegray> i'm still at work
23:43 < Z_Man> ok
23:43 < Z_Man> can i trust you?
23:43 < Z_Man> lol
23:43 < aegray> i'll do an rm -rf in /
23:43 < aegray> so nothin too bad
23:43 < Z_Man> yeah you better not
23:44 < Z_Man> loo
23:45 < Kate6> ARM crosscompiler...
23:45 < Kate6> Gah.
23:45 < aegray> get the package
23:45 < aegray> its easy to install
23:45 < Kate6> Where do I get it from?  I only see a Windows one on the page.
23:45 < aegray> hold on
23:46 < aegray> thsi is just for arm cross compiler
23:46 < Kate6> Well I guess it's the Assembler that make is *actually* dumping out on.
23:46 < Kate6> arm-elf-as
23:46 < Kate6> So...  arm-binutils?
23:46 < aegray> yea i think
23:46 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Toolchain
23:47 < aegray> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building
23:47 < Kate6> Thank you.  :)
23:47 < roowie> Kate6. http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/arm-elf-tools/arm-elf-tools-20030314.sh
23:48 < Kate6> Thank you kindly.  :)
23:50 < Z_Man> so can someone ssh into my system?
23:51 < coob> not right now, maybe tomorrow
23:52 < Cout> why whats wrong?
23:52 < Kate6> Z_Man: X-Chat 2.4.3 on kernel 2.6.11...  I have version replies turned off though I think.
23:53 < Cout> thanx for reminding me kate
23:53 < coob> ugh a c++ person :/
23:54 < Cout> :)
23:55 < Cout> name Stdio
23:55 < Cout> shit
23:55 < Cout> haha
23:55 < Z_Man> Kate6: ok it was an accident
23:55 -!- Luke is now known as fprintf
23:55 < fprintf> =)
23:56  * fprintf kicks Cout's ass
23:56 < Kate6> Um.
23:56  * Cout owe my arse
23:56 < fprintf> hahaha
23:56  * Kate6 tries hard to think of a good nickname for a Perl person that won't just look like line noise.
23:56 -!- fprintf is now known as Luke
23:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ
23:56 -!- Cout is now known as _splice
23:56 -!- _splice is now known as _Splice
23:57 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke
23:57 < Luke> bad chanserv
23:57 < _Splice> what lang is fprintf FORTRAN  or sumthin
23:57 < aegray> c
23:57 < Luke> C
23:57 < Luke> haha
23:57 < aegray> beat you
23:58 < Luke> poophead =p
23:58 < _Splice> C++ isnt that far from C
23:58 < coob> yeah it's just 10 times uglier.
23:58 < coob> colons? we don't need no colons!
23:58 < _Splice> cool
23:58 < Luke> to me, C++ is like nailing 4 extra legs to a dog to make it into an octopus
23:59 < Luke> where the dog is C
23:59 < aegray> oh i thought the dog was something else
23:59 < Luke> hehe
23:59 < Luke> i had to clear it up for the C++ users
23:59 < aegray> oh yea
23:59 < _Splice> christ where do u come up with this shit... i think my brain laks  that part
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