--- Log opened Fri May 20 00:00:09 2005 00:00 < BleuLlama> http://kiel.kool.dk/ <- SD cardreader for the WRT54. :D 00:00 < Luke> aegray: what'd you need? 00:01 < aegray> i'm booting of a usb external and I want to plug in my ipod and get it to work but if I do, the whole system freezes 00:01 < aegray> any idea how I can do this? 00:01 < Luke> brb - potty break 00:02 < BleuLlama> nice. 2.5mb down, 261k up. i'm happy with that. 00:03 < aegray> any clue how I can be running off one external hd usb and plug in an ipod at the same time without crashing my system? 00:03 < aegray> how to do this? 00:04 -!- Marlon_ [~marlon@eevul.info] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- _F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- asser [~asser@port551.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- Fenix-Dark [~Fenix-Dar@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- tittof [tittof@agewar.de] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 -!- CIA-5 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:04 < veteran> luke - some method of marking threads unsupported 00:04 < aegray> hmm 00:05 < veteran> who has been renaming thread titles with [4g]? 00:05 < veteran> BleuLlama - embedded linux <3 00:05 < joecool> fessiers: those are nice.. they made quite a stir at the core of the bluetooth sniper 00:05 < Luke> veteran: i'll look into that right now 00:05 -!- tittof [tittof@agewar.de] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 -!- asser [~asser@port551.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a84-230-72-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:07 < TX297> I'm getting a WRT54 and turning it into a netreg box :D 00:08 -!- CIA-3 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 < BleuLlama> netreg? 00:09 < BleuLlama> really nice, extensive interface on the WRT54 too. 00:09 < TX297> http://www.southwestern.edu/ITS/netreg/ 00:09 -!- Fenix-Dark [~Fenix-Dar@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:09 < BleuLlama> aaah. it's like what hotels and starbucks and such use. 00:09 < BleuLlama> cool 00:09 < TX297> Yeah 00:10 < Luke> vet my password to access the sql dbs seems to have been reset 00:10 < TX297> We have linksys and belkin cards in the house that HATE WEP 00:10 < BleuLlama> i didn't bother turning on WEP 00:11 < BleuLlama> just filter MAC addresses 00:11 < BleuLlama> this replaces a crappy belkin 802.11b access point/router. 00:11 < Bicchi> How can I get id3 tags for my files. The format is"Artist - Song name" and the problem is that i do not have entire albums i just have a few songs from every artist. can you advice on any software. it can be windows. 00:12 < BleuLlama> which had to be rebooted every few months to keep its speeds decent. (its firmware has a known memory leak that causes performance to degrade over time. nice.) 00:12 < TX297> YEah 00:12 < TX297> I have a crappy linksys right now 00:12 < TX297> Filtering MACs isn't that great 00:12 < BleuLlama> it keeps casual users off of my net. 00:12 -!- Marlon_ [~marlon@eevul.info] has joined #ipodlinux 00:12 -!- _F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:12 < Luke> damn freenode is getting laggy 00:12 < TX297> and netreg uses the MAC address for verification anyway 00:12 < TX297> Yeah 00:12 < joecool> DIE LAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:12 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:12 -!- joecool [~joecool@nj-208-17-75-7.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:12 < BleuLlama> WEP can be cracked in minutes. If you're good enough to want to break into my home network, you can crack wep anyway... so it's pointelss. heh 00:13 < TX297> The tech guy where I work said he'd let me crack their WEP 00:13 < TX297> I said "in a few minutes" 00:13 < Luke> veteran: would you mind resetting my phpmyadmin pw? 00:13 < TX297> He was under the impression that it still took hours ;) 00:13 < TX297> Anyway, I'm gong to go change then go out for my birthday 00:13 < TX297> Later 00:13 -!- Bicchi [~chatzilla@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:14 < BleuLlama> see ya. 00:14 < BleuLlama> think i'm gonna download stuff. 00:22 < aegray> anyone know offhand what i have to enable/disable in my kernel and recompile to use usb with ipod? 00:23 < Luke> sbp2 has to be a module 00:23 < Luke> i wrote a guide on the wiki abou tit 00:23 < Luke> haha 00:23 < Luke> about it 00:23 < Luke> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Mounting_on_Linux 00:24 < aegray> thats for firewire is it not? 00:25 < aegray> (i thought) 00:25 < Luke> oh 00:25 < Luke> hmm 00:26 < Luke> yoru right =) 00:26 < Luke> i wasnt paying attention 00:26 < Luke> i guess i've never used it with usb 00:26 < aegray> k 00:27 < aegray> ok got it 00:27 < aegray> you wanna throw this on wiki? 00:27 < Luke> you mean do you want to throw it on the wiki? 00:28 < aegray> aren't only the devs able to edit the website? 00:28 < Luke> nope 00:29 < aegray> oh nm then 00:29 < Luke> just sign up and you can edit it too 00:29 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 00:30 < fessiers> I like that wiki, Luke, just did all that by hand earlier today. 00:30 < fessiers> the trick was to plug in the ipod _after_ loading sbp2 00:31 < Luke> not normally 00:31 < Luke> the order shouldn't matter 00:42 < aegray> is there any way to reinit only one of your usb ports? 00:43 -!- b0lt [~b0lt@pool-151-201-58-77.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:51 -!- joecool|away is now known as joecool 01:03 < Luke> forum's gunna be effed up for a sec 01:03 -!- MaDsKiLLz_ [billy@d14-69-243-77.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:05 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|et 01:14 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Client Quit] 01:18 < clepple> aegray: I don't know of any userspace programs that can reliably reset a USB port in Linux 01:18 < clepple> there used to be a perl script that used libusb bindings or something, but it tended to reset other ports on the same HC or hub 01:20 < aegray> damn 01:21 -!- MaDsKiLLz [billy@madskillz.user] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:21 < aegray> is there a way to stop any fs access while you reinit usb? 01:21 < aegray> doubting that one 01:22 < Luke> one time i took my hdd out and i could still use the computer as long as i didnt try to do anything that wrote or read from the harddrive 01:22 < clepple> not that I know of... if you have a USB drive, it's going to keep the reference count on the USB drivers from going to zero, so you can't reliably remove and reinsert the modules 01:23 < aegray> ok 01:23 < clepple> you might be able to put together a small program using libusb 01:23 < clepple> it has a usb_reset() call 01:24 < clepple> wait, what do you need to reset that you can't just pull the cable? 01:24 < aegray> i'm running off an external 01:24 < aegray> so if i plug in anything 01:24 < aegray> or reinit 01:25 < aegray> it kills linux 01:25 < aegray> with journal commit errors and such 01:25 < clepple> maybe it's just my old x86 hardware, but I'm impressed that you got it to boot from an external drive 01:26 < clepple> still a bit confused on this, though... why does it kill things if you plug something else in? 01:26 < aegray> bios popped it right up 01:27 < aegray> because I'm pluggin in my ipod - and for some reason its reloading usb-storage in insert 01:27 < aegray> =no ipod work until i can get it to work 01:28 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 01:29 < clepple> hmm 01:29 < Luke> awesome - my forum mod worked =) 01:29 < b0lt> :D 01:29 < b0lt> what did it do? 01:29 < clepple> I tried plugging a mini into a USB port on a Linux box at work, and it had serious issues 01:30 < aegray> you have to recompile with no EFT suppor 01:30 < aegray> t 01:30 < clepple> EFT? 01:30 < Luke> i made a mod so that I can use easyMod to make all the custom changes me and vet made on the forums 01:30 < Luke> and it installed correctly =) 01:30 < Luke> exciting 01:31 < b0lt> i can't get to ipodlinux.org 01:32 < Luke> well its up =) 01:33 < clepple> Luke: DNS took forever to resolve 01:34 < Luke> thats vets problem =) he's the server admin 01:34 < Luke> i'm the site admin 01:34 < b0lt> meh, is it a static ip? 01:34 < Luke> yea 01:34 < b0lt> what's the IP? 01:34 < Luke> dns it 01:34 < Luke> i dont have it memorised 01:34 < b0lt> how. 01:34 < b0lt> i can't resolve it. 01:35 < aegray> its a partition thing 01:35 < aegray> CONFIG_EFT_PARTITIONS or something 01:35 < Luke> b0lt: you dont know how to use traceroute? 01:35 < Luke> 70.84.20.250 is the ip 01:36 < b0lt> wtf? 01:36 < Luke> what? 01:36 < b0lt> how the hell do i traceroute the ip, or use the better way of `host`, when i can't resolve it? 01:36 < clepple> Luke: last hop that works from me is fe-0-1-0.mc2.atlanta1.level3.net 01:36 < clepple> b0lt: you can always traceroute with an IP address 01:36 < b0lt> clepple, i was asking for the ip address.... 01:37 < clepple> you can even turn off name resolution with '-n' if all of your DNS is screwed up 01:37 < Luke> 70.84.20.250 is the ip address 01:37 * b0lt points clepple to his inquiry about the ip address 01:37 < b0lt> ok 01:37 < b0lt> thx :) 01:37 < Luke> i said it about 10 lines up too man 01:37 < Luke> i just tracerouted it 01:37 < b0lt> 9:36pm b0lt: you dont know how to use traceroute? 01:37 < b0lt> 9:36pm 70.84.20.250 is the ip 01:37 < Luke> so apparently th edns works 01:37 < clepple> "can't resolve it" means many things... on IRC, there's a 50-50 chance it means "I don't know how" :-D 01:37 < Luke> yup 01:38 < b0lt> clepple, maybe on dalnet, but on freenode? 01:38 < b0lt> clepple, can't resolve it refers to the DNS server 01:38 < Luke> what are you talking about? 01:38 < b0lt> A record doesn't exist according to `dig`, using verizon's 01:38 < Luke> b0lt: what are you trying to do anyway? 01:38 < b0lt> Luke, http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dns.htm 01:39 < b0lt> get to the site 01:39 -!- CIA-3 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 01:39 < Luke> why? 01:39 < Luke> what are you trying to find out? 01:40 < b0lt> ... 01:40 < clepple> b0lt: I'll resist the cheap shot about using your ISP's nameservers :-) but it looks like it just takes a few tries to resolve the name 01:40 < b0lt> i am attempting to get to the site 01:40 < Luke> just go to it 01:40 < b0lt> clepple, meh, i'm using BIND with caching, but don't have any other dns server 01:40 < b0lt> s 01:41 < b0lt> ok, what the hell? Luke, do you have any knowledge of DNS, or the world wide web in general? 01:41 < Luke> what are you ramblind about? 01:41 < clepple> <- djbdns fan (don't get me started on BIND) 01:41 < b0lt> you have no clue what dns is. 01:41 < Luke> how do i have no clue what dns is? 01:41 < b0lt> clepple, i use slackware 01:41 < Luke> are you trying to piss me off b0lt ? 01:41 < b0lt> Luke, "just go to it" 01:42 < b0lt> no, i am noting your stupidity 01:42 < Luke> the website it working man 01:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 01:42 * b0lt bangs his head against the wall 01:42 < clepple> hehe 01:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*b0lt@*.pitt.east.verizon.net ] by Luke 01:42 -!- b0lt was kicked from #ipodlinux by Luke [Luke] 01:42 < aegray> whooops 01:42 < aegray> haha 01:42 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*b0lt@*.pitt.east.verizon.net ] by Luke 01:43 < Luke> there's no need to start namecalling here 01:43 -!- b0lt [~b0lt@pool-151-201-58-77.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 < b0lt> it does NOT work for anyone using default dns server for verizon, comcast, any isp based on level 3, or genuity 01:43 < Luke> how does this have anything to do with me bing a dumbass? 01:43 < b0lt> it may work for YOU, but it doesn't work for a large portion of the internet 01:44 < Luke> the site is working 01:44 < b0lt> you can not grasp the basic concepts of dns 01:44 < Luke> the problem is with something on your end then... like your dns 01:44 < Luke> b0lt: 01:44 < Luke> dont make me ban you for good 01:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*b0lt@*.pitt.east.verizon.net ] by Luke 01:44 -!- b0lt was kicked from #ipodlinux by Luke [you need to cool down some more] 01:44 < Luke> you should see these PM's i'm getting 01:44 < Luke> hahaha 01:45 < aegray> post em 01:45 < Luke> naw 01:45 < Luke> lets just drop it 01:45 < Luke> to be honest i have no idea what he's ranting about 01:45 < aegray> the dns server for his isp isn't updating right 01:45 < aegray> although - it shouldn't have to update 01:45 < Luke> yea i know 01:45 < Luke> what does he want me to do about his isp's dns not working? 01:46 < Luke> i donno 01:46 < Luke> anyway there are still bugs in the code 01:46 < Luke> on the forums 01:47 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 01:50 < Luke> is anyone able to post a new thread or post on the forums? 01:52 < aegray> nope 01:52 < aegray> parse error 01:52 < aegray> template.php(127) 01:52 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162172110.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:54 < Luke> yea thats annoying 01:55 < Luke> hmm 01:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 01:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*b0lt@*.pitt.east.verizon.net ] by Luke 01:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 01:57 -!- veterannn [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 01:57 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:57 -!- veterannn is now known as veteran 01:57 < Luke> vet 01:57 < aegray> is there a way to update your kernel from windows (something I compiled)? 01:58 < Luke> aegray: probably some way to cross compile it 01:58 < aegray> if I compile it on linux for arm 01:58 < aegray> i'm just wondering if theres like a dd command for windows 01:58 < Luke> oh 01:58 < Luke> hmm 01:58 < Luke> i dont know 01:58 < clepple> cygwin? 01:58 < Luke> there's an installer for windows 01:58 < aegray> yea but will it install something I compiled 01:58 < aegray> i'm worrking on cop stuff 01:59 < Luke> i've never used the windows installer before so i dont know 01:59 < aegray> k 02:00 -!- llun\ved\ [~triest@rtay-164-107-198-196.resnet.ohio-state.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:01 < Luke> i've got a whole bunch of friends at ohio state =) 02:03 < BleuLlama> you have friends? 02:03 < Luke> only 3 =) 02:04 < Luke> well... i like them. they dont like me 02:04 < llun\ved\> Did I start this conv about Ohio State? 02:04 < Luke> yea 02:04 < Luke> haha 02:04 < llun\ved\> man the things you do just by entering a room 02:04 < Luke> the things your hostmask does =p 02:05 < llun\ved\> Yes I know its pathetic that I've lived in dorms for four years, but.. well yea 02:07 < Luke> hehehe 02:08 < Luke> right well i've gotta go 02:08 < Luke> see ya guys 02:08 < Luke> if b0lt starts acting up again, clepple you can be the one to ban him =) 02:24 < clepple> aegray: how does uClinux expose the COP? It pretty much just runs a single thread, separate from the main core, right? 02:26 -!- casper [~shy@c-66-176-163-88.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:32 < Fenix-Dark> 70.84.20.250 thats www.ipodlinux.org's ip 02:32 < Fenix-Dark> just use the dig command 02:35 -!- joecool|et [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:36 < clepple> Fenix-Dark: it works now, but earlier there was a routing problem with level3.net, and people couldn't even get the IP address 02:39 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 02:45 < Fenix-Dark> oh ok 02:46 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|et 02:49 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162172110.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:12 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 03:21 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:29 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:31 < veteran> luke yes? 03:31 < veteran> uh luke? o.0 03:34 < Luke> the clean install i did with the easyMod had parse errors 03:35 < Luke> easyMod screwed something up causing /include/template.php not to work correctly - have you encountered this error before? 03:35 < veteran> nope 03:35 < Luke> uhg 03:36 < veteran> haha .htaccess_no 03:36 < Luke> ? 03:36 < Luke> no dont touch the htaccess 03:36 < Luke> its fine 03:37 < Luke> i've been debuging this damn 2.0.15 version for the past 2 days now 03:37 < veteran> yeah i slapped a deny from all on there when i saw a "PhpBB Installation" page coming up 03:37 < Luke> aaaah 03:37 < Luke> haha 03:37 < Luke> damn you 03:37 < Luke> hahahaha 03:37 < veteran> considering our userbase i thought it prudent 03:37 < Luke> can you put accept from my IP so i can continue working when the rest get turned away? 03:37 < Luke> hehehe indeed 03:38 < Luke> its funny you got to that page in the time it took me to rename from forums to the other version =) 03:38 < veteran> done 03:38 < veteran> haha 03:39 < Luke> i still cant access it 03:39 < veteran> then i guessed the wrong ip 03:39 < Luke> hehehe 03:39 < Luke> someone else has access 03:39 < Luke> hehe 03:40 < Luke> 69.172.9.30 03:40 < veteran> i suppose apache doesn't like hostnames 03:40 < Luke> put radix.mine.nu in there if it works with hostnames 03:41 < Luke> i keep that up to date with whatever ip i'm at 03:42 < veteran> working for you? 03:42 < Luke> nope 03:42 < Luke> i must say you scared the crap outa me when i first saw that =) 03:43 < Luke> i thought i accidentally overwrote the htaccess 03:43 < Luke> hahhaha 03:43 < courtc> .org? 03:43 < Luke> ? 03:44 < veteran> hm well it's not working for me either, and there's no .htaccess there. 03:44 < veteran> well done chap 03:44 < Luke> hehe i havent touched that 03:44 < Luke> it was all you =D 03:45 < Luke> check the ftp access logs 03:45 < courtc> dunno, just thought it might be a better place for this discussion (I'm not saying this isn't the right place, just that .org might be better?) 03:45 < Luke> i see .htaccess in there? 03:45 * courtc is wrong alot though 03:46 < Luke> courtc: aah i ddint understand what you said before 03:46 < veteran> i say we stay here, hoping that this might be entertaining to some sick person reading the logs 03:46 < Luke> hehehe 03:46 < Luke> veteran: i can see .htaccess... the origional 03:46 < veteran> i'm talking about in forums/ 03:47 < Luke> oh 03:47 < veteran> ah screw it i'm shutting down the server and moving to cuba 03:47 < veteran> it was fun while it lasted, all. 03:47 < Luke> hahaha 03:47 < Luke> see ya =) 03:48 < Luke> there was never a .htaccess in forums 03:48 < courtc> bringa swimsuit 03:48 < courtc> (and maybe an inflatable raft) 03:48 < veteran> there's a good market for those i hear 03:50 < Luke> veteran: the _notworking one is the 2.0.15 with easyMod installed (and causing problems) 03:50 -!- Bicchi [~chatzilla@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:50 < Luke> veteran: the clean install of 2.0.15 should work (I applied the ipl mod by hand which I know works) 03:50 < Bicchi> what happens if an mp3 does not have the id3 tag. does the ipod still displays it like "artist name - song name" 03:50 < veteran> does it work? 03:50 < Luke> veteran: does what work? 03:51 < veteran> Bicchi - it reads from itunes' database, not id3 03:51 < Luke> veteran: aah you fixed the htaccess! 03:51 < courtc> Bicchi, atm the iPod doesn't read id3 tags 03:51 < veteran> Luke - yeah. so much for cooba 03:51 < Luke> what did'ja do to it? 03:52 < Luke> veteran: ah try posting... still getting the same error 03:52 < Bicchi> but if i have my mp3 without id3 tags i heard that the ipod have problems displaying its name. i even heard that it does not let you copy files to it. 03:52 < veteran> Luke - do you have a backup of the fresh .15 by any chance? 03:52 < Bicchi> i have all my mp3 without id3 tags. i do not own an ipod but would like to know if this would create a problem. 03:52 < Luke> veteran: yea i got it 03:53 < veteran> alright forget easymod 03:53 < Luke> veteran: i'm uploading it now 03:53 < courtc> Bicchi, that depends entirely on what app you use to put music on your ipod 03:53 < Luke> veteran: this is a fresh install 03:53 < Luke> veteran: this is a fresh install with your and my mods 03:53 < Bicchi> courtc: so if i use i tunes to put the songs i would need to have id3 tags in them. 03:54 < courtc> dunno bout itunes. most apps can read the artist/title/etc from the filename.. 03:54 < Bicchi> i am affraid of spending $300 so the things displays "unknown artist - unknown song" do you get me. 03:54 < Luke> veteran: dont touch it for a sec - i'm gunna upload a completely fresh, unmodded .15 03:54 < courtc> and/or directory structure 03:55 < Bicchi> courtc: what do you use to put files in it? and do you use id3? 03:55 < veteran> Bicchi - ephpod can read from file structure/filename 03:56 < veteran> and i think it even can fix your ID3s based on filename 03:56 < courtc> I use gtkpod. :/ 03:57 < Luke> courtc: same 03:57 < Bicchi> veteran: thats great but my song do not have album info or year. just the filename as "artist - song name" 03:57 < courtc> Bicchi, thats fine 03:57 < Bicchi> so it should create playlist based upon artist name. 03:58 < Bicchi> i will try ephpod. thanks for the info 03:58 < veteran> it has some quirks but it's handy overall 03:58 < courtc> it'll group together by artist, you create whatever playlists you want.. 03:59 < BleuLlama> i've seen shell scripts that will take filenames like that, and shove the info inti id3 tags, then you could use gtkpod or the like, import them all into the ipod, and your itunesdb file will be right. 03:59 < BleuLlama> hell, id3info or the like and perl could do the trick 04:00 * courtc :: note to self: reading forums while they are being modified is quite interesting 04:01 < veteran> courtc please keep your notes to yourself to yourself 04:01 < Luke> courtc: haha sorry 04:01 < courtc> veteran- good point.. I think 04:02 < veteran> nah not really, i just had to grasp that rare opprotunity to use the same two words back to back 04:02 < Bicchi> one last question. i heard that you can not use the ipod as a hard drive unless you use itunes. is this correct. What is the HD formatted as? 04:02 < veteran> Bicchi you heard wrong. case closed. 04:02 < Luke> its always a harddrive 04:02 < Bicchi> can linux mount it? 04:02 < veteran> yep 04:02 < Luke> yea 04:02 < Bicchi> cooll 04:03 < Bicchi> so you can drag and drop files into playlist? 04:03 < Luke> but you need itunes =) 04:03 < courtc> Bicchi, winpod? fat32; macpod? hfs+ 04:03 < Luke> bicchi do you have gtkpod? 04:03 < veteran> Bicchi - you have to use a program to add files into the music database 04:03 < veteran> the ipod doesn't just read from directory structure 04:04 < veteran> it uses a very apple-ish proprietary format to store song names and playlists 04:04 < Luke> hehehe 04:04 < Bicchi> i don't even have an ipod thats where my ignorance comes in. i guess i am just trying to gather info to make an educated purchase. 04:04 < Bicchi> luke: no 04:04 < courtc> if you want to put linux on it, get an iPod. 04:04 < veteran> buy one now. that's my advice 04:04 < Luke> Bicchi: thats what i use - it works quite will and you can do all your little playlist things 04:05 < courtc> If you don't F' off ;) 04:05 < Bicchi> courtc: thanks F U 2 ;) 04:05 < Luke> i swear my connection is horrible here 04:05 < veteran> don't feel bad, you're not the only one swearing 04:05 < Luke> i keep getting stalled transfers out the ass 04:06 < courtc> heh. well, this is a channel about linux on the ipod :O 04:06 < BleuLlama> what? 04:06 < BleuLlama> it is? 04:06 < Luke> haha 04:06 < BleuLlama> crap. i'm in the wrong place 04:06 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:06 * Luke bans BleuLlama "and stay out!" 04:06 * veteran covers the log's ears 04:07 < veteran> so... eh... is that guy really a llama? 04:07 < courtc> BleuLlama goes the extra mile to follow through with his jokes, he must be. 04:07 < veteran> luke - what exactly are you doing? 04:07 < mage> hmm who does the nightly builds? 04:07 < Luke> trying to upload the theme =) 04:07 < veteran> mage - some canadian 04:07 < Luke> its going quite slow tho 04:08 < mage> oh davidc__ 04:08 < Luke> its almost done now 04:08 < courtc> mage- who told you that? 04:08 < mage> guessing, hes canadian 04:08 < Luke> AAAH! 04:08 < courtc> is he? I thought he was a BCian 04:08 < Luke> why is this failing so much! 04:09 < mage> bc.ca 04:09 < Luke> ftp is the shittiest protocal 04:09 < veteran> north of texas is canada as far as i'm concerned 04:09 < mage> haha 04:09 < courtc> mage, can't resolve tha domain 04:09 < mage> well thats because its like wi.us 04:10 < courtc> who the hell is wi? 04:10 < mage> if ya 'mericans 'ave 'em 04:10 < mage> Wisconsin 04:10 < courtc> I don't know him 04:10 < mage> state 04:10 < Luke> you guys missed it - i had a fun ban today 04:10 < Luke> scroll up ifyou were logged in 04:10 < mage> what time? 04:10 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 04:10 < mage> well, hours ago would be better 04:11 < courtc> mage- like comatose, or like Georgia? 04:11 < veteran> not enough stamina to carry out the joke longer, eh BleuLlama? 04:11 < mage> Georgia 04:11 < BleuLlama> bored 04:11 < Luke> hehe 04:11 < BleuLlama> avoiding work 04:11 < courtc> I though we voted out all W states in '52? 04:11 < Luke> we did 04:11 < veteran> try making circles with your thumbs in opposite directions 04:13 < mage> anyone here successful in compiling podzilla to work right with libitunes? really annoying to mod tetris and not be able to compile it 04:13 < Luke> good news! the forums work again 04:13 < veteran> mage what os? 04:13 < Luke> now i have to figure out why my mod screws stuff up so bad 04:13 < mage> gentoo linux 04:13 < veteran> luke - you have a sick definition of "good" 04:13 < courtc> mage- evryone but you it seems :) 04:13 < Luke> veteran: shitty news - the forums work again 04:14 -!- Bicchi [~chatzilla@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 04:14 < mage> it's probably my GCC either too new or too old 04:14 < courtc> mage- for the ipod or for the desktop? 04:14 < Luke> mage: you cant do ipodlinux on gentoo 04:14 < veteran> much better. now, let us go read the latest update in the "mr_mini got spam" crisis 04:14 < aegray> anyone here ever run linux from a cd? 04:14 < Luke> yea 04:14 < Luke> haha 04:14 < mage> Luke: slackware 10.0 then? 04:14 < Luke> only for the majority of my linux installs 04:14 < mage> I have a chroot for slack 10.0 04:14 < Luke> mage: i was just kidding - i run gentoo =) 04:14 < veteran> aegray, the video superhero has never run knoppix!?!? 04:15 < mage> ah 04:15 < courtc> veteran, haha.. i stopped reading everything but Software Dev a long time ago 04:15 < aegray> the question is does it need a harddrive to do so? 04:15 < courtc> aegray, shouldn't 04:15 < veteran> aegray - no. 04:15 < mage> aegray: some laptops require a hard drive 04:15 < courtc> mage- for the ipod or for the desktop? 04:15 < mage> oh didn't see that 04:15 < mage> for iPod 04:16 < courtc> 1 sec 04:16 < Luke> veteran: whats the status on the htaccess? 04:16 < Luke> veteran: i'm gunna try one freaking more time to install these mods by hand before we just dont have forums anymore 04:17 < Luke> i think the problem is with my mod btw 04:17 < courtc> mage- http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/libitunesdb.a 04:17 < aegray> wow 04:17 < mage> I tried the .a listed on the wiki for Windows users compiling for iPod, but it read the db wrong 04:17 < aegray> i just got like 90 line dump 04:17 < mage> k 04:17 < aegray> what happened 04:17 < mage> aegray: you lag like battle.net 04:17 < veteran> harsh. 04:18 < aegray> haha 04:19 < aegray> knoppix runs from a cd? 04:19 < mage> yes 04:19 * aegray is waiting for 90 line dump from lag 04:19 < aegray> k 04:19 < courtc> ( ) <-- loop || aegray --> . 04:19 < aegray> haha 04:20 < BleuLlama> [ ] <-- square brackets || burrito --> // 04:21 < courtc> indeed 04:22 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1901 what? 04:23 < courtc> someone post something mean and derisive so I don't come across as someone who cares about the idiots.. ;D 04:24 < aegray> hey it seems like an important issue - a "show-stopper" 04:24 < Luke> hahahaha 04:25 -!- Volmarias [chimaera@ool-4355dced.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:26 < Luke> ok my mod works 04:26 < Luke> hmm 04:27 < veteran> i give up. 04:27 < Volmarias> Hello, I hate to ask, but I'd like to know if someone plans to ever update the information on how people are coming along on converting for the iPod Photo? All information seems to be four months old at the earliest... 04:27 < Volmarias> latest rather 04:27 < BleuLlama> read 04:27 < BleuLlama> the 04:27 < veteran> ............ i give up. 04:27 < BleuLlama> topic 04:27 < Volmarias> I DID. 04:27 < Volmarias> I KNOW there's no version for photo yet 04:28 < courtc> no, you didn't 04:28 < Volmarias> otherwise it would be posted all over everywhere 04:28 < BleuLlama> there's your answer 04:28 < aegray> forums best place for info 04:28 < Volmarias> I'm just asking if someone plans on updating the blog 04:28 < veteran> Volmarias - the project has disbanded and all of our source code has been sold to Microsoft 04:28 < BleuLlama> when things are done, it'll be updated 04:28 < Volmarias> veteran: poo 04:28 < Tonkajds> rofl 04:28 < courtc> ooh ooh 04:28 < Volmarias> also, the last time I tried the forums, it reported errors 04:28 < aegray> try installing too 04:28 < Volmarias> it seems to be working now, though, thanks 04:28 < veteran> i know the feeling, Volmarias. 04:29 < BleuLlama> last time i tried the forums, it wasted minutes of my life. :( 04:29 < aegray> best way to find out how well it works 04:30 < Volmarias> I was just concerned that the project had just sort of died off since there's a flurry of information in january and then nothing 04:30 < aegray> no its still going 04:30 < courtc> bummer.. +4 months http://so2.sys-techs.com/4gcountdown/ 04:30 < BleuLlama> yup 04:30 < BleuLlama> nice going vol. 04:30 < Volmarias> :< 04:31 < BleuLlama> thanks to your asking, mini release date has been pushed back 4 months 04:31 < BleuLlama> mini/4g/photo 04:31 < aegray> bahahahaa 04:31 < veteran> haha you slay me courtc, you slay me. 04:32 < Tonkajds> Volmarias: GRrr! 04:32 < Luke> veteran: found the problem 04:32 < Volmarias> well, sorry to interrupt, and I'm terribly glad that you're all working on this 04:32 < Luke> veteran: had been moved onto a line that was commented out 04:33 * veteran blinks 04:33 < veteran> how anti-climactic... i was expecting a better excuse ;) 04:33 < Luke> hehe 04:33 < Luke> =) 04:33 < Luke> me too 04:33 -!- Volmarias [chimaera@ool-4355dced.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 04:34 < Luke> i dont understand how this works tho... there's a rogue with no 04:35 < Luke> this is very strange indeed 04:37 < mage> theme futzing? thats always fun 04:37 < Luke> looks like it 04:37 < Luke> i'm actually debugging a mod 04:37 < BleuLlama> i'm listening to a mod 04:38 < BleuLlama> i should merge in mikmod to the cvs podzilla. hmm 04:38 < Luke> but it looks like this extra was thrown in just because the theme was so poorly organised 04:38 < BleuLlama> although, then i'd be forced to track down the timer brokenness 04:38 < courtc> I should write a generic palyer interface 04:38 < courtc> player* 04:39 < BleuLlama> and a generic "now playing" screen 04:39 < veteran> I should finish that tldp wiki 04:39 < courtc> but then I'd be forced to code.. 04:39 < courtc> "You can't make me" 04:40 < veteran> once enough noobs nag you, you'll crack. 04:41 < Luke> tldp? 04:41 < mage> linux doc project 04:41 < veteran> the linux documentation project http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/ 04:41 < veteran> look at the Main Page's history for some entertainment. 04:42 < Luke> what sort of linux related stuff are you documenting? 04:43 < aegray> transgendered wife - wow 04:43 < veteran> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/docs.html#howto 04:44 < veteran> aegray - now you've got me curious as to the type of videos you want to watch on your photo ;) 04:44 < aegray> haha - that was on tldp 04:45 < mage> pokemon on iPod! 04:45 < courtc> umm.. 04:45 < aegray> along with a thousand other porn pages 04:46 < mage> well, I decided to not say porno wouldn't be that useful with such a small screen 04:46 < mage> that was the other choice 04:46 < Luke> veteran: haha i cant believe your doing this =) i guess once you answer enough of the simple questions you just need a place to write em down 04:46 < veteran> Luke - don't worry, I didn't write a bit of it ;) 04:46 < veteran> porting from www.tldp.org to wiki format 04:46 < Luke> veteran: ah 04:47 < veteran> tldp essentially taught me linux... i feel that i owe them the favor 04:47 < courtc> hmm.. anyone want to write a wiki page on how to deal with fonts? 04:48 < courtc> :( I think I might be the only one who knows how.. 04:48 < mage> fonts on linux? 04:48 < courtc> podzilla/fonts maybe? 04:48 < mage> ah 04:49 < courtc> is that ze proper procedure? 04:49 < veteran> courtc - make a really rough outline and apply that beautiful (a.k.a. useless) stub template to the bottom 04:49 < courtc> I mean, is that where subpages come in? 04:49 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:49 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:50 < veteran> Wammy go away and work on gsadmin <3 04:50 < Wammy> heh 04:50 < veteran> courtc - subpages? did i miss a line? 04:50 < Wammy> still working on that supid video for school 04:50 < courtc> podzilla/fonts ? 04:51 < veteran> oh, no that's nasty 04:51 < Luke> veteran: if you want to go about cleaning the ftp out later thats fine - I've got stuff working harmoniously now 04:51 < veteran> harmoniously, indeed! :D thanks 04:51 < veteran> i might clean it up a bit, not tonight though 04:51 < Luke> yea thats fine 04:51 < Luke> acutally i may go and clean out all the crap i created trying to debug this stuff 04:52 < Wammy> veteran: you left the other server running so i can go in and install the stuff right? 04:52 < Luke> i knew it was going to be some minute little thing 04:52 < veteran> eh Wammy how late are you going to be installing 04:52 < courtc> umm.. Fonts_for_podzilla,_setting_up is better? 04:52 < veteran> that server is right next to my bed, pretty loud 04:52 < Luke> hahaha 04:52 < veteran> Luke - i live in a datacenter, shut up. 04:52 < veteran> ;) 04:52 < Wammy> veteran: turn it off then till eh.....shit..... 04:53 < Wammy> let me think when ill have time 04:53 < veteran> haha that's fine i'll put some earplugs in 04:53 < Wammy> get all the games and scripts installed on it 04:53 < Wammy> :)_ 04:53 < veteran> done... go ahead and work on it it's up 04:53 < Luke> veteran: the funny thing is that my server is next to my bed too 04:53 < veteran> it'll be mailed to datacenter in 2 weeks 04:53 < veteran> Luke - 1U? 04:54 < Luke> 1U? 04:54 < Luke> no 04:54 < Luke> haha 04:54 < veteran> haha lucky, this thing is loud 04:54 < courtc> podzilla_fonts_rock_your_socks_baby.. thats it! 04:54 < Luke> i can only imagine 04:54 < veteran> courtc - ehm no... needs to be camel case. 04:55 < Wammy> veteran cant ssh in. 04:55 < veteran> that's because i'm moving it to another room, sec 04:55 < courtc> bah, we don't use camel case.. I'll use Fonts for now. you superbadasses can move it later if it sucks ;) 04:56 < veteran> Luke - are you on summer break? 04:56 < Luke> yea 04:57 < veteran> feel like rewriting mediawiki this summer for me? 04:57 < Luke> hahaha i'll have a job shortly 04:57 < veteran> ah drat :D 04:57 < Luke> full time coding =( 04:57 < Luke> god i just love cubicals! 04:57 < courtc> rofl, I'm writing a javascript wiki.. hahaha 04:57 < Luke> all JS? 04:57 < mage> camel case? 04:58 < Luke> CamelCase 04:58 < mage> TitlesLikeThis? 04:58 < Luke> yea 04:58 < Luke> and_this_is_microsoft_case... its shitty 04:58 < veteran> no 04:58 < courtc> yea, all 'cept for the database stuff.. all the pasing is done via JS 04:58 < veteran> this%20is%20microsoft%20case 04:58 < Luke> HAHAHA 04:58 < Luke> lmao 04:59 < veteran> am i the only person who has a server sitting on a bowflex? 04:59 < mage> yes 04:59 < Luke> hahaha no way! 04:59 < Luke> mine used to sit on a notrik trak 04:59 < Luke> haha 04:59 < mage> mine is in a mere closet 04:59 < Luke> better air flow 05:00 < courtc> mine are all on the floor.. seemed logical.. 05:00 < Luke> there's no airflow in a closet 05:00 < mage> yea door is usually open 05:00 < veteran> i figure it'll get all muscular like walker texas ranger 05:00 < veteran> (why is he always on bowflex infomercials!?) 05:00 < Luke> George Walker Bush 05:00 < mage> if I was going to add a fan to bifold doors would I want bottom going in, or top out? 05:00 < Luke> veteran: he needs to get payed too 05:01 < veteran> heat rises mage 05:01 < Luke> top going out 05:01 < mage> well yes, but like cool air in, or hot air out 05:01 < mage> im not going to but two big holes in the door :) 05:02 < Luke> does it have slotted doors? 05:02 < Luke> really it doesnt matter too much. You're just changing the airpressure inside regardless of where the fans are 05:03 < Luke> in a computer it matters beacuse you can direct cooler air direcly on the components 05:04 < Luke> actually, if you want to try to get a circular airflow going then go for the top 05:04 < mage> k 05:05 < mage> for computers I thought it mattered because more exhust means less air pressure inside, less molecules to transfer to 05:06 < veteran> wammy - connect 05:06 < Luke> mage: thats the case for all fans (in your computer and your closet) 05:06 < veteran> if you're really obsessed about circular airflow, block off all of the middle slats so it forces it to suck in from the bottom 05:07 < Luke> mage: i was talking about fan placement in the case though 05:07 < Luke> veteran: the hot air from the PC would do a lot of the moving as well 05:09 < Luke> welp im gunna go eat something 05:09 < Luke> nite all =) 05:10 < courtc> you callin' me a welp? 05:10 < courtc> ;) 'night. 05:11 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:13 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:23 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["night all"] 05:29 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-35-37.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 05:38 -!- MaDsKiLLz [billy@madskillz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 05:42 < courtc> ugh.. 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12:44 < clepple> I was considering playing with iPL on my 3g, but so far have only installed it on a mini 12:44 < clepple> what's up? 12:46 * clepple glances at CVS 12:47 < clepple> leachbj: I was actually kind of curious how the COP support works 12:48 < clepple> the cop basically runs a single thread, right? as in, regular uClinux processes don't get scheduled on it? 12:48 < leachbj> i need some feedback about recording on 3g with the recent nightly builds 12:48 < leachbj> clepple, thats right, in fact the COP is mostly while(1) sleep, but it does handle FIQ interrupts 12:58 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 12:59 < clepple> looks like the first couple of insns after stmdb in cop_fiq are trying to determine which processor got the FIQ - does that mean interrupts are dispatched to both cores at the same time? 13:01 < leachbj> there is a seperate IRQ and FIQ mask for CPU and COP, so no, not normally 13:04 < leachbj> that code is really just a safety check incase FIQ was triggered on the CPU 13:05 < clepple> ah 13:44 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:55 -!- eddan [~eddan@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.3 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 14:02 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:24 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:25 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:27 -!- OLwork [~snak@81-232-87-195-no31.business.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@180.84-48-113.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:36 -!- _F-F_^hmf^ is now known as F-F_^hmf^ 14:45 -!- xaviercr [~xaviercr6@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:45 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:13 -!- acs [~acs@mortadelo3.udc.es] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["brb"] 15:37 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:46 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@ti221110a080-16312.bb.online.no] has joined #ipodlinux 15:48 -!- BobVH [~bob@21-63.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 15:54 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:55 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:16 -!- acs [~acs@mortadelo3.udc.es] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 16:16 -!- BobVH [~bob@21-63.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:29 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:29 < fessiers> Guys, I just want to clarify the roadmap for building and installing on 4G. 16:30 < fessiers> My host is linux 2.6 x86-64, I have a arm toolchain already, haven't tested it, but it's courtesy of gumstix. 16:31 < fessiers> I have the unsupportedlinux Windows installer (infortunantely my host isn't windows) 16:32 < fessiers> It strikes me that I can pretty much follow http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 16:32 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-158-35-37.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:34 < fessiers> I'll need to build make_fw myself from CVS, and use podzilla and kernel from the windows 4G build. 16:40 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEAEFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:42 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 16:45 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has quit [Client Quit] 16:45 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 < fessiers> ...or just use the damn windows installer and get some interesting development done. 16:57 < leachbj> you can get pre-built nightly podzilla & kernel binaries 16:58 < fessiers> so the 4G development to the kernel is in there now, hunh? 16:58 < Vanquisher> leachbj, did u find the cause of the color problems yet in 1.1? 16:59 < leachbj> havent looked 16:59 < Vanquisher> :( 17:04 < leachbj> just use 1.0 ;) unless you have a photo adapter its not going to make any difference 17:04 < Vanquisher> leachbj, i already upgraded to 1.1 :| 17:06 < leachbj> you can easily downgrad 17:06 < leachbj> e 17:06 < Vanquisher> leachbj, how so 17:06 -!- OLwork [~snak@81-232-87-195-no31.business.telia.com] has quit [] 17:06 < leachbj> just get the Firmware-1.0 from the updater and dd it to the firmware partition 17:07 < leachbj> that should reflash it back to 1.0, or just extract the 1.0 part from the updater and make_fw that in 17:07 < leachbj> anyhow I'm off... bye 17:07 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.3/20050414]"] 17:11 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 17:18 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:25 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["brb"] 17:27 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 18:03 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:13 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@ti221110a080-16312.bb.online.no] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 18:14 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:40 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:40 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:45 -!- BobVH [~bob@21-63.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 < mage> hmm does make_fw do linuxy + apple -> what goes on /dev/sda1? 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21:20 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-223-182.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 21:26 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 21:31 < Tonkajds> once or twice 21:31 < leachbj> can you tell me how it goes if you boot linux then do a 8kHz record straight away? 21:32 < leachbj> and then which version of podzilla/kernel... 21:32 < Tonkajds> hmm, give me a min 21:36 < Tonkajds> well... 21:37 < Tonkajds> podzilla 2005-05-13cvs 3g, it does work, but using the earbuds as a mic is not practial 21:37 < Tonkajds> practical* 21:38 < leachbj> thanks... do you know what kernel version? 21:38 < Tonkajds> getting that now 21:41 < Tonkajds> duh! im loking in the wrong place2.4.24-ipod2 #45 Apr 28 21:42 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 < Tonkajds> this has got coobs(?) voice menus 21:42 < leachbj> where did you get the kernel from? 21:42 < Tonkajds> from coob 21:43 < Tonkajds> or was it courtc? 21:43 < Tonkajds> one of them 21:43 < Tonkajds> :) 21:43 < leachbj> ah ok... hmm 21:43 < Tonkajds> ?'s 21:44 < leachbj> well if you get a chance i'd be interested to see if it works with the current nightly build (kernel & podzilla) 21:44 < leachbj> i've gotta head now, but if you do just leave a message here and I'll check the logs. thanks! 21:45 < Tonkajds> i give it a shot 21:48 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:56 < Luke> coob's the one working on the voice stuff 21:56 < Luke> leachbj: you around? 21:58 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-60-225-213-32.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 22:00 < Tonkajds> Luke: which version of the boot loader will be the best? 22:01 < Tonkajds> .3 or .3.2? 22:06 < aegray> how do you change root password in os X 22:06 < aegray> ? 22:06 < aegray> if you can't login to root 22:06 < joecool> umm aren't you fucked then? 22:06 < aegray> might be 22:09 < aegray> if i do an su is it looking for the same pass as the master password? 22:09 < Luke> yea 22:09 < Luke> do you have sudo installed? 22:10 < aegray> yesw 22:10 < aegray> yes 22:10 < Luke> Tonkajds: i have no idea... i'm just the webmaster =) 22:10 < Luke> aegray: sudo passwd root and then enter a new pw 22:10 < Luke> macs dont have single user mode do they? 22:10 < aegray> excellent 22:10 < aegray> i don't even know what that means 22:11 < Luke> aegray: did the sudo work? 22:11 < aegray> yes 22:11 < aegray> thank you 22:11 < Luke> ha np 22:11 < Luke> glad to help 22:11 < Luke> afk tho 22:12 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|away 22:12 < Luke> if anyone wants to read about all the crap I was doing to the forums yesterday and the day before, its in my latest blog entry here: http://radix.mine.nu:8080/blog/ 22:13 < aegray> you get it allworking? 22:17 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 22:23 -!- fessiers [~dave@adsl-216-103-47-182.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:26 -!- joshk [joshk@joshk.developer.debian] has joined #ipodlinux 22:27 -!- nembrot [~m2@adsl-ull-26-181.41-151.net24.it] has joined #ipodlinux 22:27 < joshk> um, this doesn't exactly have to do with ipodlinux, but i just wasted my firmware by accident and i'd rather like to restore it.. could someoen dd if=/dev/ipod of=firmware.bin bs=1M count=32? 22:27 < joshk> er 22:27 < joshk> this is for a 4G mini 22:28 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-041-100.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 < nembrot> Hi, I have a 2nd G mini. Till now I got access to the piezo and the RTC, and nothing more... Are there any infos? People tying to reverse the firmware? etc? 22:35 < aegray> if i had one i'd reverse it 22:35 < aegray> ba 22:35 < aegray> have you tried at all? 22:36 < nembrot> I have only tried to write in the same memory addresses as the 4th G 22:37 < nembrot> I have no arm-assembly experience, so I could not read the disassebled firmware code... 22:37 < nembrot> And I have noway to read whatever is in the flash memory of the device 22:39 < aegray> wanna send me a dump if i can write a prog to do it? 22:39 < nembrot> The commands for turning on the piezo and resetting the device seems to be the same as pp5020, but lcd and keyboard are different 22:39 < nembrot> ok, i can 22:39 < aegray> lemme look into how i can do that 22:39 < nembrot> but you will need access to the hd, at least... 22:40 < EvilDude> aegray: how's the recovery of code going btw 22:40 < aegray> its all recovered - but I've been trying to get something going ( a computer) to work with 22:40 < aegray> i have a bunch of stuff to add but no way to try it out 22:40 < aegray> damn compaq to hell 22:41 < nembrot> I found on the website that someone did something similar using the piezo to transmit data and a microphone to read 22:41 < nembrot> Is this the only way? 22:41 < EvilDude> ohh damn that would suck 22:42 < aegray> not if we can figure something else out 22:43 < aegray> you have piezo and resetting (although reseting is always the same i think) 22:43 < aegray> hmmmm 22:44 < mage> apple rearranged stuff? heh 22:44 < nembrot> on the website this range of addresses is named device control, ad it is located at 0x6006000+epsilon 22:44 < aegray> how much are those things? 22:45 < nembrot> Reading on 0x6000d030 I can see if a key was pressed 22:45 < crashd> /query aegray 22:45 < crashd> sigh. 22:45 < nembrot> but only for the central key and the menu key 22:45 < crashd> this keyboard is so broken 22:45 < aegray> huh? 22:46 < nembrot> and the same output for both 22:46 < mage> 3g's dont charge off of USB? 22:49 < aegray> nembrot: how much was the 2g? 22:49 < aegray> (mini) 22:49 < BleuLlama> i think they don't charge off of usb 1.x (i dunno) 22:49 < nembrot> what does "how much was" means. It is a pp5022, for sure.\ 22:49 < BleuLlama> aegray: my condolences on your meltdown. :( 22:50 < nembrot> If you mean what model... 22:50 < BleuLlama> What meltdown, Kent? 22:50 < BleuLlama> I'm not saying that you had a meltdown... but in case you did... 22:51 * BleuLlama needs to watch Real Genius now. 22:51 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Client Quit] 22:51 < aegray> thanks 22:51 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-189-35.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:53 < nembrot> aegray: if you ahve any idea, I can try... But is the reverse engineering the only source of infos? 22:54 < nembrot> is there a way, for example, to find the lcd_base address? (try random adressess until it works, ok, but it may take long long time...) 22:55 < crashd> nembrot: you could write a little program to cycle through addresses, sending the address you hit upon to the screen, until you do, then make your program take a keypress as a stop() 22:55 < aegray> my harddrive malfunction bullshit 22:55 < aegray> i mean how much money was it 22:55 < aegray> if i wanted to buy one 22:56 < aegray> i think so - on a portal player chip at least because they won't help out 22:56 < aegray> i tried doing that with audio - you'd probably freeze your ipod so many times before you got anything that youd give up 22:56 < aegray> the quickest way is definitely reversing 22:56 < nembrot> Thi program seems to crash before ending its cycle... 22:56 < aegray> its probably the same function to write to screen just diff offset 22:56 < aegray> s 22:57 < aegray> but also - knowing the different masks and init functions might make that impossible 22:57 < nembrot> The program that cycles evrey reasonable lcd_base seems to crash (ie stop) every two or three iterations... almost the same as trying by hand... 22:57 < aegray> i think your best bet is trying to get the bootloader off 22:58 < aegray> yuck 22:58 < nembrot> the bootloader works if i only want to boot a given image (without any input output stuff) 22:59 < nembrot> I was planing to boot the linux kernel using the piezo as output device for the printks, I don't know if this is a reasonable thing to do... 23:03 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-041-100.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 23:03 -!- zsr- [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:03 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:04 < aegray> what do you mean? 23:04 < aegray> oh like - boot the appleos? 23:04 < aegray> whats the arm-elf-objdump command to dissasemble? 23:04 < aegray> nm got it 23:04 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vanquisher|ET 23:07 < nembrot> yes, I got the bootloader to boot the appleos 23:07 < nembrot> but commenting out I/O stuff 23:08 -!- zsr- is now known as zsr 23:08 < nembrot> (most of the I/O could also be left in its place, it has simply no effect...) 23:09 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:16 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:16 < aegray> ahaha 23:17 < aegray> it works 23:17 < nembrot> what? 23:17 < aegray> my comp only runs off the original hd if its upside down at an angle - so i hooked up a screen and ext keyboard and positioned it on a book 23:17 < aegray> and it booted 23:18 < aegray> i'm thinking your best bet might be to get a hold of davidc or nliss (i think - or niss or something) 23:18 < aegray> the guys who did the piezo hack in the first place 23:18 < aegray> i'm sure they still have the software 23:18 < aegray> so you'd just have to use that 23:18 < aegray> to get a usuable dump 23:19 < nembrot> i will try to mail them, thanks a lot... 23:25 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:31 < mage> hmm anyone mod the apple os with ipodwizard after installing ipodlinux? 23:36 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:40 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:41 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:43 -!- aegray [~aegray@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:57 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-240-81.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:57 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-240-81.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] --- Log closed Sat May 21 00:00:00 2005