--- Log opened Tue May 17 00:00:02 2005 00:02 -!- Nikosapi [~nikosapi@ip-114.35.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:03 -!- Nikosapi [~nikosapi@ip-114.35.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:03 -!- Nikosapi [~nikosapi@ip-114.35.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:06 < Nikosapi> does anybody have the ipodcolors.act file? i looked all over the forums and couldn't find it anywhere. 00:07 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["brb"] 00:17 -!- Nikosapi [~nikosapi@ip-114.35.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [] 00:23 -!- TX297` [h@ppp-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:23 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:23 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:24 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < crashd> hey guys 00:26 < crashd> is anyone awake? 00:32 < Bi-noix> <- 00:32 < crashd> ahh 00:32 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["brb"] 00:32 < crashd> do you know where the original ipod firmare is stored before any mod takes place? 00:32 < crashd> guess not. 00:41 < BleuLlama> page 135 of Make Magazine (issue 2) is all about ipodlinux 00:42 < BleuLlama> screenshots of othello and steroids 00:43 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 00:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 01:09 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Client Quit] 01:11 < BleuLlama> damnit. 01:11 < BleuLlama> got a new laptop (G4 15") with 10.4, migrated my account over from the old laptop, but i can't find X11.app, so i can't work on podzilla. :( 01:12 -!- MaDsKiLLz [billy@madskillz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < MaDsKiLLz> hello 01:16 < BleuLlama> Hooray! found it! :D 01:17 < Fenix-Dark> i just compiled a new kernel with built in support for firewire, but my ipod wont get to the "do not disconnect" screen, what should i do? 01:18 < mage> uh 01:18 < mage> why does firewire support mean plugging it in puts it into a hard drive mode? 01:20 < Fenix-Dark> "IEEE 1394 (firewire) support" "OHCI-1493 support" "SBP-2 support (Harddisk etc.)" "Enable Phys DMA support for SBP2 (Debug)" and "Ehernet over 1394" are all c ompiled into my kernel 01:21 < Fenix-Dark> should i compile them as modules instead? 01:25 < MaDsKiLLz> heh 01:25 < MaDsKiLLz> im building podzilla from scratch 01:27 -!- TX297` [h@ppp-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:31 < Tonkajds> bleullama: didnt you just buy a dual g5@2.3ghz? 01:31 < BleuLlama> i wish. 01:31 < BleuLlama> no 01:32 < Tonkajds> hmm, then who was it? 01:32 < BleuLlama> top end 15" Powerbook. 01:32 < Tonkajds> cool 01:32 < Tonkajds> gets hot dont it? 01:32 < BleuLlama> no more than my old TiBook 01:32 < Tonkajds> :) 01:33 < BleuLlama> went from a 500mhz Rev A TiBook 15" to a new 15" 1.67ghz, 100gig disk. 1g ram, 128mb video ram 01:34 < Tonkajds> all happy not arent you? 01:34 < Tonkajds> :-D 01:34 < BleuLlama> the old TiBook was, and is, a great machine... best machine i've ever had. but this one just improves on it. :D 01:37 < MaDsKiLLz> damn 01:37 < MaDsKiLLz> i get errors 01:37 < MaDsKiLLz> looking for an aacdec.h 01:40 < MaDsKiLLz> arm-elf-gcc: ../helix-aacdec/ipod/libaacdec.a: No such file or directory 01:40 < MaDsKiLLz> wtf that file is there 01:41 < BleuLlama> i'd say it's the helix aac decoding library. 01:41 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:41 < MaDsKiLLz> yea it is the aac decoding lib 01:41 < MaDsKiLLz> but it wont compile 01:41 < MaDsKiLLz> and the error it gives me is that a file isnt there 01:41 < MaDsKiLLz> but it is there 01:43 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 01:45 < MaDsKiLLz> boo yah 01:56 -!- aegray [~agjohnst@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:57 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["brb"] 02:00 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 < MaDsKiLLz> sweet 02:05 < MaDsKiLLz> now i can start messing around with the source 02:05 < MaDsKiLLz> but right now /me ->bed 02:08 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["bn"] 02:17 < Fenix-Dark> u guys know if the apple 30" cinema display would work on a nvidia geforce 6600GT in windows or linux (it has dual dvi outputs) 02:23 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162166027.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 -!- courtc_ [~courtc@adsl-158-39-227.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-154-43-190.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:34 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 02:36 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@ip68-103-226-108.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:44 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:44 -!- misfitx64 [~boobs@c-24-60-220-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:45 < misfitx64> anyone familiar with itunes for windows 02:46 < misfitx64> id just like to know if my ipod can be used between work and home 02:46 < misfitx64> with itunes 02:48 < haunted_i> If they're both Windows computers 02:49 < haunted_i> You wanna use work's bandwidth to get a lot of songs to take home? 02:51 < misfitx64> i want to transfer/sync homes playlist at work 02:51 < misfitx64> both windows pcs 02:53 < haunted_i> should be ok 02:54 < misfitx64> yeah, just not sure how to do it, it asks me at work if i want to replace the playlist on my ipod with the (unpopulated) playlist of itunes at work 03:13 < BleuLlama> just set it for manual update 03:13 < BleuLlama> should work fine 03:15 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-158-39-227.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:17 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 03:29 -!- aegray [~agjohnst@c-24-12-225-46.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:31 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:57 -!- misfitx64 [~boobs@c-24-60-220-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:57 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@ip68-103-226-108.ks.ok.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:58 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@ip68-103-226-108.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:05 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:15 -!- TX297 [h@ppp-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:22 -!- Tonkajds [~jesse@c-67-162-65-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:26 -!- Timbot132 [Timbot132@host69-101.student.udel.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 04:26 -!- Timbot132 [Timbot132@host69-101.student.udel.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 04:30 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["..."] 04:54 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:55 -!- Tonkajds [~jesse@c-67-162-65-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:02 < mage> anyone here do coding for podzilla? 05:02 < BleuLlama> yeah. pepolpe here do 05:03 < mage> I wanna know if theres any defines to check for photo vs black and white 05:03 < BleuLlama> just look at screen_info.cols 05:03 < BleuLlama> or screen_info.bpp 05:03 < mage> k 05:03 < BleuLlama> there's code in podzilla that does this 05:03 < BleuLlama> look at lights.c for example. search on bpp 05:04 < mage> well im messing up tetris, so a compile time change would be better 05:04 < BleuLlama> you don't want to do that 05:05 < BleuLlama> it should be dynamic at runtime 05:05 < BleuLlama> one podzilla binary for all ipod platforms 05:06 < mage> oh, so the podzilla that I made for x11 could do color? 05:06 < BleuLlama> if your nanox/microwindows build was made for color, then yes 05:11 < mage> hmmm tetris is resisting colors 05:13 < BleuLlama> i thought bluecube already had colors in it 05:14 < Tonkajds> hey BleuLlama: are you a full dev? 05:14 < BleuLlama> yep 05:14 < Tonkajds> ok, is the whole point of Podzilla to be that it will work on any ipod, without changes? 05:15 < BleuLlama> correct 05:15 < BleuLlama> one binary for all ipod platforms 05:15 < Tonkajds> but why? even apples firmware doesnt do that. if you look at hte Apple FW updater, it has a different version and update for each type and gen of ipod. 05:16 < BleuLlama> why? because we can. 05:16 < Tonkajds> they are all lumped into one updater package, but they are seperate FW's 05:17 < BleuLlama> one single binary download (for the app) is a lot easier for us to maintain than 7 different downloads 05:20 < Tonkajds> ok, well let me talk out my ass for sec. is not that making the kernal harder to build? what about having a single installer that contains the Kernal/podzilla/.pkg for every gen but attach them to the install as a plugin would be, so that you can work with whichever one you want then just reload the plugin? 05:20 < Tonkajds> am i infact talking out my ass? 05:20 < Tonkajds> :) 05:21 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 05:23 < BleuLlama> that just seems like a maintenance nightmare. the changes between the hardware are relatively minor... it's not like we have apple's restriction, where they're trying to fit the complete firmware into a fixed-sized partition. we can put kernel and podzilla and support files on the drive itself. 05:23 < Tonkajds> is this a case of "climb the moutain because it's there"? 05:23 < BleuLlama> to maintain a mechanism like that, would be more complex than what we're doing now for little to no gain 05:23 < Tonkajds> ahh ok; now i know 05:24 < mage> okay, all the colors in bluecube are black, and so I try to change StyleColors to a buncha defines like LTGRAY GRAY BLACK same thing, but if I tell the drawing code to use LTGRAY instead of StyleColors[box[x][y].style-1] it works 05:24 < BleuLlama> did you build your nanox for color? 05:25 < BleuLlama> i think there's a build-time command line switch for it. 05:25 < mage> no leaving it b/w so I can try and add some grays to bluecube cos I have a 3g iPod :) 05:25 < BleuLlama> it builds nanox to be the same size and depth as ipod photo 05:27 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:34 < mage> oic bluecube/main.c sets all the colors to black 05:47 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-2906.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 -!- zsr [~sadf34@c-67-187-73-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:54 < BleuLlama> Tonkajds: os X.4 is not linux. i don't know what to suggest to you. 05:54 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:55 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162166027.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:55 < Tonkajds> isnt mac OS X run on top of a linux based kernal? 05:57 < mage> hmm I just did a few quick changes that imho make bluecube better, how should I submit them? 06:00 < BleuLlama> no. 06:00 < Tonkajds> then what is darwin? 06:00 < BleuLlama> osx has a BSD layer underneath it. 06:00 < BleuLlama> mage: look at the Patches page on the wiki 06:00 < Tonkajds> right, and that layer is linux based, i thought 06:00 < BleuLlama> no 06:00 < BleuLlama> BSD is not LINUX 06:01 < Tonkajds> ahh, i see, says the blind man 06:01 < Tonkajds> so what is BSD? 06:01 < Tonkajds> and what then is Terminal? 06:01 < BleuLlama> a unix core? 06:02 < mage> thanks 06:02 < BleuLlama> Linux is a unix-like operating system. BSD *is* a unix operating system 06:02 < BleuLlama> basically 06:02 < Tonkajds> ahh, a rectangle is not a square 06:04 < BleuLlama> more like "an octagon is not a circle" 06:04 < Tonkajds> ok, then i asked the wrong question; can you suggest a version of *linux* that will run on a apple computer and has a *great*(in your eyes) tutorial? 06:06 < BleuLlama> the closest you'd get is Yellow Dog Linux. it's a PowerPC port of linux. if you really want to learn linux, that's probably the way to go. but that's like putting pearl-colored paint on real pearls. If it's a unix-like environment you want to learn, OS X is the better way to go. 06:06 < BleuLlama> as for tutorials: how about googling for "howto" 06:08 < Tonkajds> :-? ok. my goal is to be able to help with IPL. atm i have no idea where to begin with that, but im thinking that if i can navigate/understand linux i will be getting started in that direction 06:11 -!- eddan [~ingenvet@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 06:11 < Tonkajds> i hear this channel talking about nano-x and the like and havent got the foggiest clue what it is. i poke around the site where it can be found and it starts (its basics) over my head. :( i need a lower starting point. thats what im looking for 06:12 < BleuLlama> i don't really know what to suggest. 06:13 < BleuLlama> read through the topics on the wiki for getting a developer's environment set up, and when you find things you don't know. google for "howto thingyoudon'tknow" and see what it gives you 06:13 * BleuLlama shrugs 06:13 < BleuLlama> time for me to sleep. night 06:14 < Tonkajds> alrighty, appreciate the time 06:14 < Tonkajds> :) 06:33 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:50 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:51 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-2906.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:54 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:00 -!- haunted_i [~haunted@ip68-103-226-108.ks.ok.cox.net] has quit ["Apple users are like Marines; a small, elite group with the most sophisticated technology"] 07:03 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-69-148-65-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:12 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:13 < mage> use make IPOD=PHOTO for ar an xx1 photo build <- option for making a ipod photo build is in the outdated cvs stuff :) 07:18 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has joined #ipodlinux 07:18 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 07:19 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has joined #ipodlinux 07:21 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:26 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-121-232.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 07:26 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjh1-1428.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:37 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-207-245.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:57 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has joined #ipodlinux 08:00 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:14 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:28 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 08:28 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has joined #ipodlinux 08:32 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:33 -!- srag [~sragavan@202.144.86.147] has joined #ipodlinux 08:36 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:42 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-144-121.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 08:55 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 09:42 -!- Synapse- is now known as Whoa 09:42 -!- Whoa is now known as Synapse- 09:52 -!- nunofgs [~nunofgs@a83-132-66-41.netcabo.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 09:55 -!- nunofgs [~nunofgs@a83-132-66-41.netcabo.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 10:00 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:14 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:17 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 10:38 -!- Marlon [~marlon@eevul.info] has joined #ipodlinux 10:55 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:58 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:02 -!- Synapse- is now known as TracBot 11:02 -!- TracBot is now known as Synapse- 11:34 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 11:52 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:04 < Fenix-Dark> hi 12:07 < Fenix-Dark> i'm trying to get my ipod photo connect to my pc via firewire, but it just wont seem to work, (linux) in my kernel i have ieee 1394 support compiled as a module, and ohci-1394 also sbp-2 support as modules, i modprobed ieee1394 then ohci1394 i dunno what to modprobe for the sbp-2 support. what should i do? 12:14 < tanq> modprobe sbp2 12:14 < tanq> if modprobe works and you arent getting connected check dmesg 12:14 < tanq> see what that says.. then google it.. 12:15 < tanq> gtg... 12:31 < Fenix-Dark> i just fixed it, ty for the help 12:35 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162177254.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:35 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjh1-1428.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:36 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:37 -!- Fenix-Dark [~Fenix-Dar@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:02 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:08 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 13:40 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 13:53 -!- t0mas [~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["brb, time to recompile X.org"] 13:58 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:50 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:59 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 15:03 -!- peterburk [~peterburk@62.147.130.115] has joined #ipodlinux 15:04 < peterburk> hey all, this a dead chat as usual? 15:04 < xaviercr> :p 15:04 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 15:13 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@84.48.113.180] has joined #ipodlinux 15:13 < peterburk> hey smacmac 15:16 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:19 < smacmac> hey 15:19 < peterburk> just trying to restart this chat, noone ever says anything here 15:20 < smacmac> Oh yes they do 15:21 < smacmac> When they have something to say 15:22 < smacmac> like yesterday when a guy called atlantis on the forum needed help with his avatar 15:23 < coob> no point in talking for talking's sake 15:24 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:32 < peterburk> i guess youre right coob, and btw i warned atlantis a good 3 weeks earlier about his pissin avatar, it got done :-) 15:34 -!- acs [~acs@59.Red-80-38-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 15:34 < peterburk> anyway, i'd better go revise english literature for the IGCSE tomorrow, ttyalll 15:34 -!- peterburk [~peterburk@62.147.130.115] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:40 < crashd> any developers alive perchance? 15:44 < coob> . 15:44 < crashd> :| 15:44 < crashd> hey there coob ;) 15:44 < coob> hi 15:45 < crashd> i was just wondering if anyone had any knowledge on how code was originally executed on the ipod 15:45 < crashd> im making an effort to get a development scene up for the iRiver H10 15:45 < crashd> with a view to porting uClinux to it 15:46 < coob> rockbox have been doing a lot of iriver work 15:46 < crashd> yah, but it's for the older irivers 15:46 < coob> indeed 15:46 < crashd> the H10 is based on the same hardware as the ipod/mini 15:46 < coob> ah ok 15:46 < crashd> so i thought here might be a good place to hang out ;) 15:46 < coob> it has a portalplayer in it? 15:46 < crashd> aye 15:46 < coob> pp5020? 15:46 < crashd> pp 5020 with the same wolfson codec chip 15:47 < coob> neat :) 15:47 < crashd> exactly :] 15:47 < coob> well, i joined late in the dev game so i'm not sure how it was originally run 15:47 < coob> check out the ipodloader source in cvs 15:47 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-013-243.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:47 < crashd> yeah 15:48 < coob> on the ipod the flash bios executes that 15:48 < coob> does the irvier have a flash bios too ? is the firmware on the hd at all? 15:48 < crashd> well 15:48 < crashd> it has a flash bios which does most of the hard work 15:48 < crashd> then hands over to the os, which is a file on the primary (and only) partition 15:48 < crashd> which contains the rest of the os 15:49 < coob> right 15:49 < coob> so the easiest way would be to replace that file with the loader i guess 15:49 < crashd> yeah, that's the plan 15:49 < coob> and not touch the flash (we don't) 15:50 < crashd> only, the file is encrypted (at a fair guess) and the decryption routine is going to be in the flash bios loader 15:50 < coob> i have a feeling that firmware may be encrypted though 15:50 < coob> hah 15:50 < coob> indeed it is 15:50 < crashd> i have the last update for the flash bios, which is in plain compiled binary 15:50 < crashd> and i can decompile it, in a fashion 15:50 < crashd> but my ARM skills aren't so hot :| 15:52 < coob> neither are mine 15:52 < crashd> hehe 15:52 < crashd> which is proving a teensy bit of a problem 16:22 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:28 -!- eddan_ [~ingenvet@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 16:28 -!- eddan [~ingenvet@cm-80.111.193.009.chello.no] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:28 -!- eddan_ is now known as eddan 16:45 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@84.48.113.180] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 17:02 -!- BobVH [~BobVH@214.209-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 -!- BobVH [~BobVH@214.209-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 17:28 -!- kainjow [~kainjow@cpe-65-189-143-21.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < kainjow> hey 17:30 < kainjow> does anyone know if there are any incompatibilities with GCC 4.0 and iPodLinux? 17:33 < kainjow> i'm unable to build mp4ff and helix-aacdec for X11 on Mac OS 10.4.1.. ok i'll post in the forums since no one's here :) 17:56 < mage> wow GCC 4? 17:57 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:57 < kainjow> here's where i'm at: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1879 17:57 < kainjow> pretty much gcc is complaining about int8_t and uint8_t's 17:58 < kainjow> i think i got mp4ff to compile, now onto helix-aacdec 17:59 < mage> ah 17:59 < mage> you keeping notes? 18:01 < kainjow> not really 18:01 < kainjow> in mp4ffint.h i had to replace these 2 lines: 18:01 < kainjow> int32_t mp4ff_read_data(mp4ff_t *f, int8_t *data, uint32_t size); 18:01 < kainjow> int32_t mp4ff_write_data(mp4ff_t *f, int8_t *data, uint32_t size); 18:01 < kainjow> to 18:01 < kainjow> int32_t mp4ff_read_data(mp4ff_t *f, uint8_t *data, uint32_t size); 18:01 < kainjow> int32_t mp4ff_write_data(mp4ff_t *f, uint8_t *data, uint32_t size); 18:02 < kainjow> and then change throughout the code wherever those functions are called the 2nd argument to uint8_t 18:02 < kainjow> hey i got a question 18:02 < mage> I just figure keep some notes so if you get it to work, you could make a guide :) 18:03 < kainjow> yea i know... but i don't really know what i'm doing here.. i just wanna get podzilla running on X11 but X11 crashes on 10.4.1 :( 18:03 < mage> for no reason? 18:03 < mage> like with or without it? 18:04 < kainjow> yea when i double click the app it crashes 18:04 < kainjow> Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib ?? 18:04 < mage> personally i'm sitting at a windows box I VNC into my linux box and go from there 18:04 < kainjow> ah 18:05 < kainjow> know how i would go about loading that dylib? 18:05 < mage> lets see if google knows 18:06 < kainjow> ther'es probably some unix way but i'm not a unix expert 18:06 < mage> hmm do you have such a file? 18:06 < mage> I know how to mess with libraries in linux but not OSX 18:07 < kainjow> no 18:07 < kainjow> i've got libX11.a but a dylib 18:07 < mage> is it possible to start X11 like its a program? 18:08 < kainjow> yea it crashes and gives me that error when i double click the Mac app 18:09 < mage> odd 18:09 < mage> cos a google search for that error found nothing 18:10 < kainjow> yea 18:10 < kainjow> yay for using new version of an OS and gcc with bugs! :) 18:12 < kainjow> what's the typical way to start x11 in linux? 18:12 < mage> well the gui IS x11 18:13 < BleuLlama> startx? 18:13 < kainjow> ah yea 18:13 < kainjow> ok that doesn't work 18:13 < BleuLlama> and x11 works for me on 10.4.1 18:13 < BleuLlama> (Apple's X11.app) 18:14 < kainjow> does that exist on your system? 18:14 < kainjow> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib 18:14 < BleuLlama> yes 18:14 < BleuLlama> did you install both the user and the SDK X11 packages? 18:15 < kainjow> i just now reinstalled X11SDK.pkg 18:15 < BleuLlama> The SDK package should be with the other developer tools. the app is on the first X.4 disk, in "other applications" or something... it's a seperate installer 18:15 * BleuLlama spent some time yesterday tracking that down. :( 18:16 < kainjow> Optional Installs ? 18:16 < mage> go poke around, it's safe 18:16 < BleuLlama> go to a terminal window 18:16 < BleuLlama> type: open -a x11.app 18:16 < BleuLlama> what does it do? 18:16 < kainjow> yep same thing.. crashes 18:17 < BleuLlama> how does it crash? 18:17 < kainjow> Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib 18:17 < kainjow> Referenced from: /Applications/Utilities/X11.app/Contents/MacOS/X11 18:17 < kainjow> Reason: image not found 18:17 < kainjow> that dylib doesn't exist but the parent directory does 18:17 < BleuLlama> okay. just put in the x.4 dvd. the first disk 18:17 < kainjow> with all the .a files 18:17 < kainjow> should i reinstall xcode?? 18:17 < BleuLlama> open the window, scroll down to "Optional Installs" and launch that. 18:18 < BleuLlama> it should have the X11 installer. reinstall/upgrade it 18:18 < BleuLlama> do the same with xcode 18:18 < kainjow> ahh 18:18 < kainjow> i see it now ;) 18:20 -!- danalien [~danalien@danalien.user] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:20 < kainjow> yay it works! 18:20 < kainjow> thanks a lot, really appreciate it 18:23 < kainjow> wow 18:24 < kainjow> when i ran make for podzilla i got about 200 lines back of warnings and errors :( 18:24 < kainjow> all like syntax crap too 18:27 < kainjow> ok nvm 18:28 < kainjow> sweet got it working!! :D i'm so happy 18:30 -!- eddan is now known as eddan|away 18:36 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:40 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 18:52 -!- MaDsKiLLz [billy@madskillz.user] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:02 -!- courtc [~courtc@adsl-154-41-192.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:06 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-184-143.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:19 -!- kainjow [~kainjow@cpe-65-189-143-21.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:25 -!- danalien [~danalien@danalien.user] has joined #ipodlinux 19:25 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:34 -!- kainjow [~kainjow@cpe-65-189-143-21.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 < kainjow> do i use arm-elf-gcc to compile a podzilla app? 19:36 < kainjow> for X11? 19:36 * coob cries 19:36 < coob> you will be running this on the desktop 19:36 < kainjow> sorry i'mi confused 19:36 < coob> as x11 is not on the ipod 19:37 < coob> your desktop is not arm based 19:37 < coob> so no 19:37 < kainjow> yea so i use normal gcc to compile it then? 19:37 < coob> yes. 19:37 < BleuLlama> just type "gmake" or "make" 19:37 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37 < BleuLlama> that's what the makefile is there for. 19:37 < BleuLlama> make IPOD=1 will use the arm-elf cross-compilers. 19:38 < kainjow> i'm just trying to compile the sample code here http://www.ipodlinux.org/Modifying_Podzilla 19:38 < kainjow> and trying to get the .o file 19:38 < kainjow> do i need a Makefile then? 19:38 < coob> read the instructions again 19:39 < coob> you add to the podzilla sources - you dont create you own standalone app 19:39 < coob> your* 19:39 < kainjow> hm 19:40 < kainjow> i get this 19:40 < kainjow> make: *** No rule to make target `kainjow\test.o', needed by `podzilla' 19:41 < kainjow> lol nvm 19:41 < BleuLlama> read the instructions again 19:51 < kainjow> ok i got it :) 19:53 -!- Gent [~gent@c-24-218-66-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:56 -!- rage_ [~rage@ppp111-236.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:11 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@84.48.113.180] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 -!- smacmac [~smacmac@84.48.113.180] has quit ["Computer goes to sleep!"] 20:17 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Yikes"] 20:21 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 20:22 < kainjow> for some reason pz_draw_header() doesn't seem to be getting called... and i'm not able to put up a header in my app 20:24 < crashd> or some shit 20:24 < crashd> sorry, wrong window ;) 20:45 -!- fre_ber_ [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 20:45 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:46 -!- dsh-1 [~daishi@pool-162-83-241-48.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:51 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@cpe-24-209-89-27.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:52 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 20:53 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-013-243.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:06 -!- lgates [~lgates@cpe-24-160-207-245.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:08 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 < kainjow> anyone know how to get the height of the screen? 21:42 < kainjow> *ipod 21:42 < coob> screen_info.rows 21:42 < coob> you need to read the wiki more closely 21:43 < kainjow> the wiki's so unorganized 21:44 < kainjow> why is it called rows instead of width? 21:45 < coob> so edit it. 21:45 < coob> actually, everything you've asked has been on one page. 21:45 < courtc> rows == height; cols == width 21:45 < coob> does it matter? 21:46 < courtc> and because iirc width and height are already in that structure.. 21:47 < kainjow> ok 21:48 -!- rage_ [~rage@ppp110-50.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:50 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:52 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:02 -!- fre_ber_ [~fre_ber@c-325b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 22:05 -!- aegray [~aegray@h69-21-201-246.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:25 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-74-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:40 < kainjow> hey anyone know why dd would say "Resource busy" for my ipod? 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