--- Log opened Wed Apr 13 00:00:03 2005 00:00 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0100.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:04 -!- zsk001 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 00:13 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 00:22 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 -!- ryang_ [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:26 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has joined #ipodlinux 00:30 < veteran> css hates me 00:31 < courtc> heh.. 00:33 < davidc__> css hates everyone 00:33 < davidc__> and their pets 00:39 -!- Ataraxis [~ataraxis@p54AC5699.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:50 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:50 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:08 < Z_Man> lol 01:15 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vanquisher|ET 01:21 < courtc> so, whos up for testing an update to pong? I want to see how many times you can beat it in a row... 01:33 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 01:33 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 01:34 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/pong.c if you can compile... tough luck if you can't :/ 01:34 < joecool> heh 01:38 < courtc> afk for a bit.. 01:38 < coob> lf/bin/ld.real: ERROR: ../ipp/lib/ippAC_SA11LNX_r.a(ipplib.o) uses hardware FP, whereas podzilla.elf2flt uses software FP 01:38 < coob> whee! 01:39 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:39 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 01:40 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:42 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|et 01:44 < zsk001> Courtc: whats new in the udated pong? 01:45 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:45 -!- stoppiebo [stoppiebo@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 < stoppiebo> can anyone help me with a kernel compiling prob 01:47 -!- stoppiebo [stoppiebo@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:47 -!- stoppiebo [stoppiebo@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:47 < coob> anyone here with a G5? 01:48 -!- stoppieboy [~abc@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:48 < stoppieboy> can anyone help 01:48 -!- joecool|et is now known as joecool 01:48 < stoppieboy> im trying to compile a kernel 01:51 < stoppieboy> is anyone at theyre keyboard 01:52 < zsk001> Im here, but I dont think i can help, srry 01:52 -!- zsk001 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Gluon IRC, it's free, pretty and ergonomic !"] 01:52 < coob> stoppieboy: shoot 01:54 < macpod> pedantic? 01:54 < macpod> courtc must be an english scholar 01:55 < coob> -pedantic 01:55 < coob> Issue all the warnings demanded by strict ISO C and ISO C++; 01:55 < coob> reject all programs that use forbidden extensions, and some 01:55 < coob> other programs that do not follow ISO C and ISO C++. For ISO C, 01:55 < coob> follows the version of the ISO C standard specified by any -std 01:55 < coob> option used. 01:56 < macpod> mm 01:56 -!- stoppiebo [stoppiebo@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:56 < coob> dammit, ifneq ($(shell "arch | grep 'i.86'"),) 01:56 < coob> doesn't work in my makefile :/ 01:57 < coob> macpod: do you have access to a g5's shell right now? 01:59 < BleuLlama> -pedantic-errors :) 02:00 < coob> BleuLlama: can you think of the best way to test for x86 in a Makefile? 02:01 < BleuLlama> yeah. i'd do ARCH := $(shell uname -s) 02:01 < BleuLlama> then base stuff around that 02:02 < coob> you mean uname -m 02:02 < coob> 'arch' is better, but you get all the i?86s :/ 02:02 < BleuLlama> i've only used -s, since the things i did were dependant on OS. so yeah... -m 02:02 < coob> and grepping is no good :/ 02:02 < BleuLlama> being that "linux" doesn't help much. 02:05 < coob> i'm only going to test for ppc as the differing arch for now 02:05 < coob> i don't think many people are using toolchains on anything but ppc and x86... 02:05 < coob> if they are, then they know what they're doing, and can change the Makefile :) 02:05 < stoppieboy> hey coob sorry i didnt see u come back 02:05 < BleuLlama> might need to pipe thr output of uname through sed to remove the space... my OS X gives "Power Macintosh"... not sure if the space will be a problem 02:05 < coob> BleuLlama: run arch instead 02:06 < coob> tis better 02:06 < BleuLlama> ah. 02:06 < BleuLlama> yes. tis 02:06 < BleuLlama> hehehe 02:06 < coob> but, how to check in the makefile if the output is i?86 ? 02:06 -!- Vanquisher|ET is now known as Vanquisher 02:07 < BleuLlama> ifneq ($(ARCH),ppc) 02:07 < stoppieboy> coob i checked out your page on the ipod photo 02:07 < stoppieboy> amazing 02:07 < coob> thats what i have 02:07 < macpod> coob:yes 02:07 < macpod> multiple ones :) 02:07 < stoppieboy> i tried to compile my own kernel 02:07 < coob> macpod: what does 'arch' output? 02:07 < coob> stoppieboy: just use a nightly 02:08 < coob> stoppieboy: http://ipodlinux.org/builds 02:08 < stoppieboy> right 02:08 < coob> gunzip and use that as the kernel image in the make_fw steps 02:08 < macpod> whatfor? 02:08 < stoppieboy> do i have to unpack it tho 02:08 < coob> no unpacking, just gunzip 02:08 < stoppieboy> sorry im n00b what is gunzip 02:08 < stoppieboy> a prog? 02:09 < coob> argh 02:09 < coob> not a windows user are you? 02:09 < macpod> coob, it's ppc 02:09 < coob> i don't use windows so can't help you 02:09 < coob> macpod: wikkkid, thanks 02:09 < stoppieboy> i have a linux emulator and i got ok at it 02:10 < macpod> all macs will reprot that 02:10 < macpod> cept for the old ppc ones 02:10 < stoppieboy> what command line do i have to enter 02:10 < stoppieboy> $ gunzip ... then what 02:10 < coob> macpod: great thanks 02:10 < BleuLlama> if you need to ask that, you should stop right now, stoppie. 02:10 < coob> macpod: i was worried it'd be ppc64 or something 02:10 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:11 < stoppieboy> im really sorry i did alot of reading and have been working on it all day 02:11 < macpod> that would be a bitch for compiling 02:11 < stoppieboy> i sorry if im bein a pain in the ass. thanx for the hint 02:11 < coob> BleuLlama: got time to test another acc binary 02:11 < coob> ? 02:12 < coob> this one has scrubbing... 02:12 < macpod> :o 02:12 < BleuLlama> shoot 02:14 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla 02:14 < BleuLlama> i typed that and nothing happened? 02:14 < BleuLlama> do i type it on my ipod? 02:14 < coob> haha 02:19 < courtc> me? an english scholar? haha.. 02:19 < coob> macpod, on tunnel, it's probably better to start with select rather than play 02:19 < coob> play/ff/rw should onyl really be used if absolutely neccesary 02:19 < coob> reminds me, i need to sort that in minesweeper 02:20 < BleuLlama> how do i scrub? 02:21 < coob> hold >> or << 02:21 < courtc> get a brush.. ... 02:21 < BleuLlama> nope. 02:21 < BleuLlama> it's looping on a buffer 02:21 < coob> nada? 02:21 < BleuLlama> it hung 02:22 < BleuLlama> the slider moved, but it looped on a single buffer, and since i let go, it's not responsive to anyhting 02:22 < stoppieboy> i cant specify the image and leave it .gz can i? 02:24 < courtc> wait.. you're a windows user... 02:24 < wembley> bleu/coob...is using board[x][y] slower than just an int? 02:24 < stoppieboy> yes i am y are u saying that 02:24 < courtc> we don't like your kind 'round here 02:24 < courtc> ;D 02:25 < Vanquisher> rofl 02:25 < coob> wembley: not really... 02:25 < Vanquisher> courtc, well said 02:25 < wembley> okidokie, thanks 02:25 < coob> BleuLlama: hmm, thats no good! 02:25 < wembley> lol, i started optimizing my samegame...oh man 02:25 < coob> you mean the dsp looped on a buffer? 02:26 < wembley> i didn't plan on having it optimized because it doesn't update all that often 02:26 < wembley> but the updating was slow when i did it, woops 02:26 < courtc> array indexing is slower if you know how to deal with pointers properly... 02:27 < stoppieboy> plz just help me past this one issue. i have to get it just as .bin correct? (Y/N) 02:27 < coob> wembley: saving games to hd will be slow 02:27 < coob> cos the hd has to spin up 02:27 < coob> not because of code... 02:27 < wembley> yeah 02:27 < coob> unless you have some insane loop... 02:27 < wembley> it isn't using the hd at all 02:27 < coob> oh ok 02:28 < wembley> i am comparing a lot of things to just one entry of an array, so i didn't know if there would be a speed increase if i stored the array value and used that for compares 02:29 < wembley> i found some things i can make go a lot faster, but i would have to hardcode the sizes of the blocks for each ipod :( 02:30 < courtc> wembley- yea, if you intend to do alot of references to the same index, store it an as int and reference that... 02:30 < coob> dynamic 2d arrays shouldn't be *that* slow 02:30 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@dsl1.ivry.rezel.enst.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:31 < courtc> no, but removing the indexing does provide quite a bit of speed-up especially in a tight loop... 02:32 < wembley> i'm doing 3 compares 150 times 02:34 < BleuLlama> yeah. 02:34 < coob> ok and then it just locks? 02:35 < BleuLlama> remove the indexing, especially if there are any computations in it 02:35 < coob> BleuLlama: ^^ 02:35 < coob> ^^! 02:35 < BleuLlama> hat? 02:35 < coob> im impotent 02:35 < BleuLlama> HAT! 02:35 < BleuLlama> hehe 02:35 < coob> er i mean important. 02:35 < BleuLlama> what? 02:36 < coob> BleuLlama: ok so it's alright apart from the scrubbing? 02:36 < BleuLlama> i dunno. it hung when i went to scrub. 02:36 < BleuLlama> i think everything worked 02:37 < stoppieboy> y does it tell me that kernel.bin.gz isnt in gzip format 02:37 < stoppieboy> can anyone help? 02:37 < courtc> linus can and has.. try linux 02:38 < stoppieboy> i am 02:38 < stoppieboy> im using cygwin 02:38 < courtc> cygwin != linux 02:38 < stoppieboy> right 02:39 < stoppieboy> ive read thru wiki like all day 02:39 < stoppieboy> i just need to find out how to prepare the image so i can send it 02:39 < coob> BleuLlama: does the progress bar keep moving when the sound is looping? 02:40 < BleuLlama> nope. the ipod is hung 02:41 < stoppieboy> can you at least point me too a link 02:41 < coob> ok 02:42 < coob> stoppieboy: 4g/photo/mini is unsupported, if you can't figure it out from whats already there, wait for an official installer 02:43 < stoppieboy> i really appreciate everything u guys have done 02:43 < stoppieboy> but all i needed was an answer to one question 02:44 < courtc> somebody test pong already... 02:44 < coob> i did 02:44 < courtc> oh.. 02:44 < courtc> and 02:44 < coob> the bats move over the baseline 02:44 < courtc> yea, my fault 02:44 < coob> and it's still alittle slow on a 4g 02:45 < coob> i didn't play for too long though 02:45 < courtc> what? slow how? 02:45 < coob> too easy :) 02:45 < courtc> oh, haha.. that doesn't last too long.. 02:46 < courtc> can you see how many times you can beat it in a row? 02:46 < coob> i can't get a single point... 02:46 < courtc> haha.. you have to play for a bit 02:47 < coob> i think i just suck at pong... 02:48 < courtc> haha.. don't lose the first point.. every time you lose a point it gets slower.. 02:48 < coob> ah ook 02:48 < coob> oh pause too 02:48 < coob> nice 02:49 < courtc> :) 02:49 < coob> when you first start, should the ball really be in the top left corner before you press select? 02:49 < courtc> umm.. well, thats where it is.. *shrug* 02:51 < coob> winner 02:51 < coob> i got a point! 02:51 < coob> i took me like 3 minutes at 0 0 though 02:51 < courtc> heh 02:52 < coob> ok i think that scrubbing crash is a kernel bug 02:52 < coob> cos it works fine on desktop lunix 02:59 -!- veterannn [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 02:59 < veterannn> coob - are you an osx-er? 03:00 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 03:01 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:01 -!- veterannn is now known as veteran 03:03 < coob> veteran: yarr 03:03 < coob> + linux now for the aac dev stuff 03:03 < veteran> arch? ;) 03:03 < veteran> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages mind telling me if the text size is sane? 03:03 < coob> x86 03:04 < veteran> arch linux* 03:04 < coob> crux 03:04 < coob> text size fine in camino 03:05 < courtc> good text size in ff, but the menu is a little overlapping 03:09 < BleuLlama> i believe the correct scientific term is "overlappy" 03:09 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:10 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 03:10 < courtc> ok, we'll go with that.. the menu text is a little overlappy 03:10 < veteran> sorry, having internet hiccups 03:11 < coob> in safari can't click on anything in the left column 03:11 < coob> unless it's a long item and then i can click ont he rightmost bit of text 03:11 < coob> it's only where the menu is on the left 03:12 < coob> same in camino 03:12 < courtc> Opera... j/k 03:13 < veteran> ah alright thanks coob :D 03:13 < veteran> i've been testing it in lynx, so... 03:14 < courtc> lynx isn't the best browser to test css in ;DDD 03:14 < coob> yeah try elinks :) 03:14 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 03:14 < wembley> is x<<0 the same as x? 03:14 < coob> yes 03:14 < wembley> w00t 03:14 < wembley> ty 03:14 < courtc> links -g 03:15 < wembley> i was hoping it wasn't undefined 03:16 < coob> root@samsung:~/build-x11# links -g 03:16 < coob> ELinks: Unknown option -g 03:16 < coob> webrowsing as root is probably a bad idea... 03:16 < veteran> ;DDD tripple chin? 03:16 < courtc> coob- haha.. 03:17 < courtc> nah, thats me laughing multiple times 03:18 < courtc> yea, I'm using links.. not elinks.. 03:18 < coob> i don't get why the crubbing code should cause a crash 03:18 < coob> maybe because I can't type 03:19 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:19 < coob> all it does is advance/decrease the pointer and continue to the next itterance of the loop before the decode step 03:20 < coob> decoding the odd frame evry now and then 03:21 < courtc> can I take a look at it? 03:21 < coob> sure 03:24 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/aac.c 03:24 < courtc> hmm.. zsk009 doesn't distribute any code does he? Isn't he supposed to? 03:24 < coob> there's a point! 03:24 < stoppieboy> will podzilla ever have .avi or .mpg playback? 03:25 < courtc> no.. 03:25 < coob> stoppieboy: no. 03:25 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@208-58-243-29.s283.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:25 < veteran> nice modifying update courtc 03:25 < veteran> i'm hoping you didn't do the source coloring by hand? 03:25 < courtc> haha.. I did.. (what a waste of time) 03:26 < courtc> It's nice to have colored comments 03:26 < veteran> drat i was hoping you had a script up your sleeve ;) 03:26 < veteran> adding a source syntax color coding mod is on my long todo list 03:26 < courtc> nah, I'd have to modify mediawiki to do that... 03:27 < courtc> ditto with phpbb.. 03:27 < veteran> or copy/pasted 03:27 < veteran> but yeah it looks nice 03:27 < veteran> :))) 03:27 < courtc> hey coob? 03:28 < coob> yo? 03:28 < courtc> its 2005 ;) 03:28 -!- GruntWillBBL [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:28 < coob> good point sparky! 03:29 * coob stops living in the past 03:29 < courtc> I'm all over them bugs 03:29 < coob> hey it'd probably help if you could compile 03:29 < coob> i'll sort them lib tarballs out now.. 03:30 < courtc> mind if I submit a patch? 03:30 < coob> ? 03:30 < courtc> well so far its just strcmp -> strcasecmp 03:31 < coob> heh 03:31 < coob> fixed 03:34 < stoppieboy> so what still needs to be changed before the official 4g release 03:35 < courtc> audio 03:35 < coob> clock speedc 03:36 < stoppieboy> y do you hate windows 03:36 < stoppieboy> (users) 03:36 < coob> because they use windows. 03:36 < courtc> :D 03:37 < stoppieboy> you guys dont game at all? 03:37 < coob> i game on my ipod 03:37 < stoppieboy> i noticed 03:37 < coob> tetris > counterstrike 03:37 < courtc> you don't actually ever want to get something done with your computer? 03:38 < stoppieboy> not very often 03:38 < stoppieboy> i like to have fun 03:39 < stoppieboy> which is y i bought an ipod 03:39 < veteran> stoppieboy - do you have a clan? 03:39 < stoppieboy> clan for what 03:39 < coob> i bought mine to listen to music 03:39 < veteran> nevermind ;) 03:39 < stoppieboy> gaming? 03:39 < courtc> when I want to have fun I go kayaking/backpacking/hiking/climbing, I don't play computer games... 03:39 < veteran> yep... i sell gameserver 03:39 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 03:40 < veteran> courtc - EA Games' Backpacker 2005 is pretty exciting 03:40 < veteran> they added 40 new textures to the back of the guy in front of you's boots 03:40 < stoppieboy> lol 03:40 < coob> do you have to avoid the psycho hitchhiker killer? 03:41 < veteran> actually, you play him 03:41 < stoppieboy> so u think u must be a loser to like computer games? 03:41 * courtc has avoided him before... 03:41 < veteran> stoppieboy - no, losers are people who don't buy gameservers 03:42 < veteran> do you want to be called a loser for the rest of your life? 03:42 < stoppieboy> sorry man i dont game that hard 03:42 < coob> stoppieboy: nope, there's just other ways to have fun too 03:42 < stoppieboy> yeah thats what im sayin coob 03:42 < stoppieboy> i have fun and would be up da creek without windows 03:43 < stoppieboy> for gaming at least 03:43 < courtc> and playing computer games isn't a very marketable skill ;) 03:43 < tanq> actually... 03:43 < veteran> eh... 03:44 * veteran gags courtc and engages intimidation marketing tactics again 03:44 < tanq> there was a study conducted that showed that surgeons were able to improve their skills by playing certain video games 03:44 < stoppieboy> ud be suprised some of the intellectual games out there 03:45 < tanq> as a matter of fact i'm about to play urban terror 03:45 < stoppieboy> maybe ur not learning science but its more engaging than watching tv 03:45 < courtc> intellectual enough to spell 'you'd' and 'you're' right? 03:45 < coob> what if you're watching a phone in science show? 03:46 < courtc> who says I watch tv? 03:46 < stoppieboy> so u dont believe in keystroke shortcuts either huh? 03:46 < stoppieboy> i guess u are hardcore 03:47 < courtc> what? I use vi... I use them more than you do.. 03:47 < courtc> but they are useful at least.. 03:48 < courtc> /misunderstood 03:49 < stoppieboy> this is amazing i have a 40GB ipod y is the fw backup going way over 40GB?? im outa space!! 03:50 < courtc> you aren't backing up the firmware. check your dd command again... 03:50 < stoppieboy> how big is it supposed to be?? 03:50 < stoppieboy> the partition 03:50 < stoppieboy> listen i know my knowledge limits 03:51 < stoppieboy> thats y i follow the guides 03:51 < coob> < 1 ? 03:51 < courtc> before ~40mB, after ~10mB 03:51 < stoppieboy> $ dd if=/dev/sda1 of=ipod_os_partition_backup 03:51 < courtc> stoppieboy- I'd have to disagree with you.. 03:51 < stoppieboy> what are u disagreeing with 03:52 < courtc> The fact that you know your knowledge limits.. Otherwise you'd be waiting for an installer. ;) 03:53 < stoppieboy> i know u think you're god's gift but im not as stupid as u think 03:54 < stoppieboy> there are smart windows users :) 03:54 < stoppieboy> i dont know everything 03:54 < courtc> haha.. I might be an asshole, but I'm honest.. 03:54 < stoppieboy> y do u think i came here?? obviously not to get help right? 03:55 < stoppieboy> i dont want to wait for the damn installer. you guys didnt need it so y should i 03:57 < courtc> the developers don't need it because they are, well, developing it.. 03:57 < coob> stoppieboy: would you rather they spend time developing it or spend time helping you? 03:58 < stoppieboy> obviously id rather you guys make the software as good as you can 03:58 < courtc> heh, I think we go over this at least once a day.. 04:00 < stoppieboy> i cant believe how much heat you deliver over 2 questions 04:03 < courtc> I answered you last two questiions didn't I? Everyone says "Its only a question" but all the answers are already on the wiki.. We've taken our time to put them there.. It gets kind of annoying when we get asked the same questions over and over and over. 04:04 < BleuLlama> um 04:04 < BleuLlama> i'm a dev, and i used the installer. 04:04 < BleuLlama> that's why i'm not doing work with my 4g. no installer. 04:05 < BleuLlama> being honest about what you know and don't know is the most important thing you can know. 04:05 < BleuLlama> i know that there's a lot i know about, but i also know (and freely admit) the stuff i don't know. 04:05 < coob> i'm an almost dev and I didn't use one, but that's because I'm crazy like a coconut 04:05 < BleuLlama> kernel workings? OS maintenance? no f'ing clue. 04:06 < BleuLlama> writing apps and tools? that's me. 04:06 < stoppieboy> $ dd if=/dev/sda1 of=ipod_os_partition_backup 04:06 < stoppieboy> is that how i backup the firmware 04:06 < BleuLlama> i believe that question is answered on the wiki 04:06 < stoppieboy> cause thats what the guide says 04:07 < stoppieboy> y did it backup > 40 GB 04:07 < stoppieboy> do you know? 04:07 < coob> probably because /dev/sda1 isn't your ipod? 04:07 < stoppieboy> is there anyway to find out what is my ipod 04:08 < BleuLlama> if you need us to figure that out, you shouldn't be doing this. 04:08 < stoppieboy> i just followed the guide 04:08 < BleuLlama> there's an unwritten rule on the guide... perhaps it should be written. Rule 0: Think. 04:08 < stoppieboy> im dont need you to figure it out im just asking if u know 04:08 < BleuLlama> learn what the commands are doing, rather than just typing in crap like a monkey 04:09 < BleuLlama> do you have people do your homework for you also? 04:09 < BleuLlama> just curious. 04:09 < stoppieboy> um no 04:09 < stoppieboy> if someone knows a shitload more tho i like to ask them 04:10 < stoppieboy> is it so bad? 04:10 < BleuLlama> if i see a bunch of instructions, i *ghasp* do a little research on my own to figure out what they're doing, rather than asking people first. 04:10 < stoppieboy> i thought i told you ive been reading thru wiki all day 04:10 < BleuLlama> there's more than just the wiki 04:11 < stoppieboy> im sure u get n00bs in here who have never seen the page but thats not me 04:11 < BleuLlama> most of the noobs figure things out on their own. 04:11 < BleuLlama> they don;'t understand something, so they man the commmands, they figure things out on their own 04:11 < BleuLlama> that;'s what this project is all about. 04:12 < BleuLlama> learning how to do this stuff. 04:13 < stoppieboy> y do you even host files if you want everyone to learn how the kernel works 04:13 < BleuLlama> i didn't really want to learn how to do a full install by hand, and that's why i'm waiting... why i'm not bugging the hell out of people with questions that could be answered with a 'man' or a simple linux/unix tutorial on the net. 04:14 < stoppieboy> is the command to unpack 2005-04-11-kernel.bin.gz 04:15 < stoppieboy> $ gunzip 2005-04-11-kernel.bin ? 04:15 < courtc> ^-- missing BleuLlama's point.. "questions that could be answered with a 'man' or a simple linux/unix tutorial on the net." 04:16 < coob> ^^! 04:16 < stoppieboy> it didnt work for me so i moved up to the next more intellectual thing than a damn tutorial 04:16 < stoppieboy> is that correct tho 04:17 < stoppieboy> is that what command i should use? 04:19 < stoppieboy> why would you lecture me when you could just give a Y/N ? 04:19 < courtc> please please please lean how to use google.. http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/gz.shtml 04:20 < wembley> court 04:20 < wembley> it doesn't matter 04:20 < wembley> because 14 seconds after he is able to extract it, it will ask about the next command he needs to enter 04:20 < wembley> that's how things work 04:21 * wembley asks a lot of dumb questions too 04:21 < wembley> lol 04:21 < stoppieboy> that was my only question 04:21 < courtc> yea, but I was trying to demonstrate a point.. 04:22 < stoppieboy> yeah i guess so 04:24 < stoppieboy> if thats the only way to do it there must be a prob with cygwin 04:24 < veteran> hopefully someday google will replace all social communication 04:25 < stoppieboy> i had already seen like 10 pages off google that said you could do it that way 04:25 < stoppieboy> i just appreciate confirmation from a human 04:26 < courtc> I actually enjoy imparting information that is difficult to obtain my normal means.. e.g. microwindows questions.. good microwindows docs are few and far between. And if you are lucky and ask a question that I have a particular interest in, I will track down the answer and present it to you.. 04:26 < stoppieboy> it was Y/N 04:27 < coob> stoppieboy: your browser/whatever you got the file with probably already decompressed it for you 04:29 < stoppieboy> ty 04:36 < wembley> boo 04:37 < BleuLlama> AIEEE! 04:37 < wembley> the kernel from last night is 6,4 mb 04:37 < wembley> and too big for sda1, lol 04:38 < BleuLlama> last time i reinstalled a kernel was 3/30 i believe 04:38 < coob> -rw-r--r-- 1 owl owl 1642396 12 Apr 08:09 2005-04-12-kernel.bin 04:38 < coob> can i have some that crack you're smoking please? 04:38 < wembley> er 04:38 < wembley> i mean with the firmware 04:38 < BleuLlama> oooh! 04:38 < BleuLlama> me too! 04:39 < coob> my sd1 on ythe winpod photo is around 16meg :/ 04:39 < courtc> BleuLlama- did you try seeking both ways? 04:39 < BleuLlama> yes 04:39 < coob> yeah courtc 04:40 < coob> it works afor little bit apparently 04:40 < BleuLlama> we discussed details in pm 04:40 < BleuLlama> yeah. 04:40 < BleuLlama> very very briefly 04:40 < coob> then bails 04:40 < BleuLlama> yep 04:40 < wembley> coob, how many cylinders did you use for sda1? 04:40 < coob> 1 i think 04:40 < BleuLlama> my car has 4 cylinders 04:40 < coob> 1 -2 04:40 < coob> ona 50gb photo 04:40 < courtc> ok.. just checking... which way did it work? 04:41 < wembley> hrrm 04:41 < wembley> i'm using 10 04:41 < wembley> but i have a 30gb so it's prolly different 04:41 < BleuLlama> heard sound backwards, not forwards. neither stayed playing the song. both ways bailed after seeking a little 04:41 < BleuLlama> after releasing the button 04:41 < coob> sorry i meant 20gb poto 04:41 < coob> dammit 04:41 < coob> cant type 04:41 < BleuLlama> (on 10gb 1g) 04:41 < coob> 30gb* 04:41 < wembley> and you only used 2 cyls? 04:41 < coob> if it bails it should bail with an error :/ 04:42 < coob> unless get_out is upped 04:42 < BleuLlama> man, i am such a pillow case sometimes. here i am watching commercials, when the show i'm watching is on the tivo. 04:42 < wembley> hrrm, i'm using 10 and it is yelling at me 04:42 < coob> wembley: i think so... 04:42 < BleuLlama> no error box/message box here. just back to the menu. 04:42 < courtc> no loop though? I thought there was an audio loop? 04:42 < coob> heh 04:43 < BleuLlama> not these times 04:43 < BleuLlama> it looped once, one of the times i was testing, but that was a system hang. i'm used to recognizing that from my mikmod dev. 04:43 < BleuLlama> heh 04:43 < coob> i'm using Fugu.app to edit my sources on a linux box in SubEthEdit on my ibook over sftp, running 'make' in an exported xterm, then podzilla runs ont he linux box, appears on my ibook, sound come sout of the linux box :) 04:44 < wembley> WTF! 04:44 < BleuLlama> hehe 04:44 < coob> BleuLlama: does your mono stuff play ok? 04:44 < BleuLlama> SubEthaEdit is cool. 04:44 < wembley> i know i have 6.4mb on there 04:44 < BleuLlama> i dunno. lemme check 04:45 < BleuLlama> hmm 04:45 < BleuLlama> these aren't mono, btw. 04:45 < BleuLlama> but they're all playing too fast 04:45 < coob> yeah that shouldn't make a difference 04:45 * courtc uses mounted nfs folders.. much easier ;) 04:46 < BleuLlama> but that file i played before works fine 04:46 < BleuLlama> too fast though 04:47 < coob> hm ok 04:47 < coob> i had that before 04:47 < coob> thought i'd fixed it 04:47 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.119.242] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:48 < joecool> hrm, you guys all have the lockups when trying to browse music on IPL? 04:48 < joecool> its a 4g 04:49 < coob> just browsing or hitting play too 04:49 < courtc> joecool- browse music how? what kernel? what podzilla build? 04:50 < joecool> courtc: latest cvs of both podzilla and kernel 04:50 < joecool> on podzilla click music 04:50 < joecool> and goto any of the submenus 04:50 < joecool> and it just freezes 04:50 < courtc> fix your itunesdb build? when did you build the cvs? 04:51 < joecool> i built the itunesdb cvs almost 2 months ago 04:51 < joecool> were there any recent updates? 04:51 < courtc> sorry, podzilla cvs 04:51 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.115.247] has joined #ipodlinux 04:51 < joecool> i just got the latest fetch.. but this has been busted for about a week now 04:51 < wembley> well, it's amazing what restarting can fix 04:52 < coob> joecool: it'll freeze on playlists if you dont have any 04:52 < joecool> well it freezes on artists too evidently 04:52 < coob> probably something funky in libitunesdb 04:52 < courtc> works fine for me.. 04:53 < joecool> as i said.. i havn't touched that in months.. and it used to work 04:53 < coob> have you upgraded itunes at all? 04:54 < coob> re synced your music? 04:54 < coob> cos that alters the itunesdb 04:54 < joecool> i'll try resyncing my music real quick 04:54 < coob> and i think 4.7 can put some things in it that libitunesdb disagrees with 04:54 < joecool> 4.7... of? 04:54 < courtc> itunes 04:55 < joecool> oh.. i think that might be it 04:55 < joecool> i havn't synced the ipod with gtkpod.. itunes was the last 04:55 < joecool> lets see... 04:55 < coob> try syncing with gtkpod... 04:55 < joecool> yep 04:56 < coob> Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top 04:56 < coob> I decided to try to install iPodLinux for the first time on my 4g yesterday. After all the posts complaining about this, I thought it would have been a lot harder than it was. It was a breeze to compile and install so kudos to all the developers. 04:57 < coob> haha 04:57 < coob> in your face newbs 04:57 < davidc__> hahahaah 04:57 < BleuLlama> where was that? 04:57 * davidc__ feels warm and fuzzy now 04:58 < coob> forums 05:00 < joecool> heh 05:00 < wembley> w00t 05:00 < wembley> new high score 05:00 < joecool> yep.. you were right 05:01 < joecool> gtkpod's itunesdb works perfect 05:03 < joecool> tunnel is a good fit for the ipod's controls :P 05:03 < joecool> oh well... 05:03 * joecool goes to sleep 05:04 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["zZzZzZ"] 05:06 < courtc> hey coob.. 05:06 < coob> hey hey hey 05:06 < coob> 05:06 < BleuLlama> heh 05:06 < coob> hahahahahahahahhahahahah 05:06 < courtc> rofl 05:06 < coob> that s_shrum ... shuffle windows dev guy 05:06 < coob> is using autoit 05:07 < courtc> xset r off, now try the scrubbing on linux 05:07 < coob> i did... 05:07 < courtc> f'ed up.. 05:08 < coob> how? 05:08 < coob> thats how i tested it 05:08 < coob> and it works fine 05:09 < courtc> sorry, I was saying the situation was f'ed up.. 05:09 < coob> it's supposed to play a smaple every now and then when you're scrubbing 05:09 < coob> every 'scrub' frames (so 10) 05:10 < courtc> can you do a seek? that might make testing easier... 05:10 -!- stoppieboy [~abc@CPE-65-26-216-188.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [] 05:10 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@210-55-35-127.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 05:11 < coob> a seek? in what 05:11 < coob> it's not reading from a file... 05:12 < coob> or do you not mean fseek 05:12 < coob> i can scrub fine in linux 05:13 < courtc> yea, and if the app is exiting then it's probably not an error, just a missed circumstance... 05:14 < coob> probably an idea to add a pz_error on every instance of pz_close_window heh 05:15 < davidc__> btw coob, did ya ever get m4p working? 05:15 < coob> yes... 05:15 < coob> it reads from the itunesdb and everything now 05:15 < davidc__> real time? 05:15 < coob> oh 05:15 < coob> m4p 05:15 < coob> sorry 05:15 * coob blind 05:15 < courtc> probably a good way to debug... in podzilla it won't just dump you out of the app for no reason.. 05:16 < davidc__> coob - but it is integrated with itunesdb playlists though eh? 05:16 < coob> davidc__: no, but it would be realtime if i could read the keys file 05:16 < coob> yes integrated 05:16 * davidc__ looks around furtively for cdm 05:16 < coob> lol 05:16 < davidc__> I'll do some reverse engineering on it tomorrow then 05:16 < courtc> btw, a s/^M/\\n/g might not be a bad thing ;) 05:16 < coob> gah 05:17 < coob> probably 05:17 < davidc__> hopefully the itunes for windows uses the same keyfile format 05:17 < coob> just acc.c? 05:17 < coob> hopefully 05:17 < coob> it's different to the SCI stuff i think 05:17 < davidc__> coob - yeah, I know 05:18 < davidc__> coob - I'll just open up the itunes exe with the old standby IDA and see what it writes to the file 05:18 < coob> sorry i'm not making much sense atm 05:18 < davidc__> and what it does it with it first. 05:18 < coob> cool ok 05:18 < coob> but yeah, it would decrypt as it buffers 05:18 < coob> so decoding speed wouldn't be affected 05:18 < davidc__> ah.. 05:19 < davidc__> you know eventually we're gonna have to implement a smarter buffering system 05:19 < coob> especially if the cop was decoding and the cpu was buffering :) 05:19 < coob> yes definately 05:19 < davidc__> yeah yeah yeah bitch bitch bitch ;) 05:19 < coob> this was a quick hack 05:19 < davidc__> I'll work on cop decoding tomorrow 05:19 < davidc__> I'm home all tomorrow 05:19 < davidc__> so I'll see what I can get done 05:19 < coob> ok cool 05:20 < davidc__> I've made abit of progress 05:20 < davidc__> btw, do we have a version of podzilla with the helix mp3 codec integrated anywhere 05:20 < courtc> mpd has some good buffering code.. 05:21 < coob> davidc no that's my next project... 05:22 < coob> yeah normalperson wrote a cool ringbuffer 05:22 < courtc> yea, diskbuffering and the other stuff 05:23 < coob> davidc__: gunna take a day off today so i'll probably get a chance to hack on it after i've slept 05:23 < davidc__> coob - thats no problem 05:24 < davidc__> I think I'll do the helix mp3 integration tomorrow then 05:24 < davidc__> just cuz I want to test it before I curse at it for not working in the kernel 05:24 < coob> cos I'm as ill as a convict who kills for phone time... or something 05:25 < coob> heh 05:25 < davidc__> coob - go to bed. 05:25 < davidc__> get better 05:25 < davidc__> we need some more codin outta you before you work yourself to death 05:25 < coob> we need mp4-sa support 05:26 < coob> and audio codec... that creates a .c which compiles and outputs c code lool. 05:26 < coob> er 05:26 < coob> pcm* 05:26 < coob> http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro/sa/ 05:29 < BleuLlama> it's like FM-Synth based .mods heh 05:30 < BleuLlama> annoying that it generates c code, rather than just interpreting the SAOL 05:30 < davidc__> heh. 05:31 < davidc__> I don't think there's great demand to implement that 05:31 < davidc__> general midi maybe 05:31 < davidc__> but not that... 05:31 < davidc__> eh, I look forward to the day we can play sid's from the itunesdb browse ;) 05:31 < BleuLlama> actually, if i port the newer mikmod, and have people include a GUS patchset, you can play midis 05:32 < BleuLlama> you can almost play mods from file browse. i just need to add a little code. ;) 05:32 < davidc__> well, sids + mods + aac + mp3 + midi + flac + alac 05:32 < BleuLlama> ya 05:32 < coob> yeah that mp4-sa was a joke request :) 05:32 < BleuLlama> i figured 05:32 < BleuLlama> ;) 05:34 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["."] 05:55 < CIA-11> courtc * tools/podzilla/pong.c: cleaned up a bit, added some ball acceleration 05:57 -!- JonasNZ_ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 -!- JonasNZ_ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:02 < macpod> coob you there? 06:02 < macpod> the reason I used play as opposed to select is the gameplay requires the scroll wheel 06:03 < macpod> During the testing phases of the new game I found those who have nubby fingers kept restarting the game by bumping it with their ginormous fingers. 06:05 < courtc> you silly 3g'ers 06:13 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:13 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:25 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:27 -!- acs_ [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:47 -!- tonkajds [~jesse@adsl-68-78-38-179.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:47 < davidc__> ay tonkajds 06:47 < tonkajds> howdy 06:47 < tonkajds> good evening all 06:49 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 < davidc__> hey jonas 06:50 < JonasNZ> hi 06:50 < courtc> davidc__- bored? 06:50 < davidc__> courtc - finishing up a big assignment right now 06:50 < davidc__> I will be bored in a bit tho 06:55 < tonkajds> good evening all 07:07 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:22 < davidc__> courtc- what did you want? 07:22 < davidc__> didn't you want me to code something or etc? 07:22 < courtc> umm... sure, go ahead 07:23 < courtc> surprise me 07:28 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 07:31 < davidc__> courtc - you were asking if I was bored or something 07:31 < davidc__> courtc - I assumed you had something for me to work on 07:31 < courtc> yea, you just seemed bored... sorry.. 07:32 < EvilDude> I want davidc to do something, work on COP :D! 07:34 < davidc__> I want evildude to.... 07:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 07:34 < davidc__> DIE 07:34 < davidc__> muahahaha 07:34 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:34 * davidc__ prepares the finger of kicking. 07:35 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:35 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by davidc__ 07:36 < EvilDude> Had your fun there davidc__ :P 07:36 < JonasNZ> i think he finished his assignment 07:36 < davidc__> yeah... I did. 07:36 < davidc__> to both remarks. 07:37 < EvilDude> haha 07:37 < tonkajds> ? for the gurus 07:38 < davidc__> go ahead tonkajds 07:38 < tonkajds> how can i change the Do not disconnect circle/slash to any other pic? 07:39 < EvilDude> hmmm this should be interesting to watch 07:39 < davidc__> tonkajds umm... I do believe thats in the flash 07:39 < davidc__> changing that is probably a bad idea 07:39 < davidc__> as changing anything in the flash can fuck things up.. 07:39 < tonkajds> lol, figures 07:39 < davidc__> there is an app that does that sorta thing, but we don't make it, so I don't really know about it. 07:40 < davidc__> I've never used it. 07:40 < EvilDude> davidc__: I think he's taking about the logo in the HD 07:40 < EvilDude> in the updater 07:40 < tonkajds> i was looking at hack while surfing and saw that, looked interesting so thought i would ask 07:41 < EvilDude> tonkajds: go to ipodwizard (google that) and ask them 07:41 < tonkajds> hummmm... will do 07:41 < davidc__> EvilDude - at least on my ipod, the disk mode hd is in flash 07:41 < davidc__> * disk mode icon 07:41 < EvilDude> ohh yeah you're not 3G 07:41 < davidc__> I'm really tired.. saying things that make no sense 07:41 < EvilDude> haha 07:41 < davidc__> anyways... really need sleep now man 07:41 < EvilDude> na 3G has own "disk mode" that doesnt reset 07:41 < EvilDude> ah ok night 07:42 < tonkajds> l8r 07:46 < davidc__> oh, before i leave, coob - make sure you tell me before you do anything rash re putting aac support into cvs 07:46 < davidc__> b/c I need to make the nightly build script take that into acct 07:47 < EvilDude> coob: you here? read post i just made about rr / ff 07:47 < davidc__> the script is flaky enough as it is 07:47 < davidc__> eh, he's probably not around atm 07:47 < EvilDude> ah ok 07:47 < EvilDude> night again then 07:52 < davidc__> just found this ipodarcade site... 07:53 < davidc__> I need to write a nasty letter first asking them to please credit the original source, and to post the disclaimer of liability that we have 07:54 < courtc> and post any source changes to gpl code... 07:56 < davidc__> and provide an offer of the source code 08:01 < EvilDude> hmm they made all the games color didnt they 08:01 < davidc__> I think they just colored em in on the page there 08:02 < davidc__> the forum posts are obviously astroturf 08:02 < davidc__> not real 08:02 < EvilDude> oh cheap bastards 08:02 < EvilDude> I suppose no one can prove its not color seeing they only support <=3G 08:02 < davidc__> anyways, I'm gonna write up a letter, can I put your signatures on it courtc / evildude? 08:02 < davidc__> I'll post the letter before I send it and get your approval 08:02 < EvilDude> yep 08:02 < davidc__> you've both got code in there right? 08:03 < EvilDude> yep well playlist stuff :P 08:03 < EvilDude> still got something in there haha 08:03 < davidc__> thats plenty 08:03 < EvilDude> cool 08:04 < courtc> yup 08:09 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.115.247] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:14 < davidc__> linky - http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11322#11322 08:14 < davidc__> I need comments, and stuff to bulk it out 08:14 < davidc__> also need to write it in the 3rd person 08:16 < EvilDude> apart from 3rd person I think it looks good 08:17 < davidc__> yeah, any suggestions on how to 3rd personify it? 08:18 < tonkajds> night all, or good morning depending on your locale 08:18 < tonkajds> im going to bed now, its 3:20am, but can make it 3rd person in the mornign 08:19 < EvilDude> hmm maybe make all the I's into we ? 08:19 < EvilDude> And rather than like I read every page, more like "After reading every page on the site" 08:19 < davidc__> yea, did that 08:19 < davidc__> the we's thing 08:20 < tonkajds> lol, great start, but some grammer changes with the 'i's 08:20 < davidc__> ok, changed the I's 08:20 < davidc__> and rewrote the After reading part 08:21 < davidc__> I also want to mention that the software is alpha, and not intented for distribution without a hefty disclaimer 08:21 < EvilDude> ah ok 08:21 < EvilDude> did you change grammar for the after reading part? 08:22 < davidc__> yeah.. 08:23 < davidc__> I don't really like how it reads though. 08:23 < EvilDude> yeah I thought it might be weird 08:23 < EvilDude> From what we see -> "From what we can see" ? 08:26 < davidc__> fixed 08:26 < davidc__> courtc, you in for a signature? 08:26 < davidc__> we really need leachbj's sig as well 08:27 < courtc> yer... here you go: Courtney Cavin 08:27 < EvilDude> yeah I think bern's sig would be nice 08:28 < davidc__> yeah, I'm talkin to him right now 08:29 < EvilDude> oh cool 08:32 < davidc__> he's looking at the letter and the site 08:33 < davidc__> eh, if we need to, I can root their forums in all of 10 seconds 08:33 < davidc__> well, less 08:34 < davidc__> I just have to press enter on my command line 08:34 < EvilDude> haha 08:34 < courtc> speaking of, zsk009 needs to provide source for his changes .. 08:35 < EvilDude> haha do you really want his source ;) 08:36 < courtc> heh, not really.. but its standard procedure.. 08:36 < EvilDude> yeah I suppose he should just have a source dir in his gzipped file 08:38 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 08:39 < courtc> ^-- see thats what your supposed to do when your house catches on fire... gj Evildude 08:41 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:43 < davidc__> bern would like me to tone down the email a bit... 08:46 < courtc> I thought it was pretty low-tone.. :/ 08:50 < davidc__> read it now.. its a bit lower-key 08:51 -!- JonasNZ [~jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:51 < courtc> umm... I guess, doesn't seem like it's changed much.. 08:56 < courtc> heh, just made a memory pool + linked list thing.. Its pretty cool.. 08:57 < coob> fort the malloc bug? 08:57 < coob> *for the 08:57 < davidc__> courtc - all I changed was the cease + desist part at the end 08:57 < courtc> davidc__- ah.. cool 08:59 < courtc> coob- nope.. just playing around.. it'll probably be used in mlist.c in the future... it'd remove all that array indexing and make static menus dynamic... 08:59 < coob> ah cool 08:59 < courtc> (without having to malloc for each item) 09:00 < courtc> currently I'm using it to make a database backend for the 'audio daemon' 09:00 < coob> hmm evildude, does scrubbing ever cause the playerexit back to the menu? 09:00 < coob> ah neat 09:01 < coob> well, I'm back to bed, night. 09:01 < courtc> hah, night 09:01 < davidc__> ok, sending the letter off, bern wants me to just sign David Carne on behalf of the ipodlinux.org team, so thats how I'll sign it... 09:01 < davidc__> hopefully we get a response. 09:01 < davidc__> hey veteran 09:01 < davidc__> you around? 09:02 < davidc__> I should use my ipodlinux.org email address... 09:02 < courtc> what do you need? 09:02 < davidc__> him to set me up dcarne@ipodlinux.org 09:02 < davidc__> actually, I think he already did. 09:02 < davidc__> I just don't know how to send from it 09:02 < davidc__> eh, I'll just send it from my shaw email. 09:02 < courtc> I set one up a while ago for you.. 09:03 < davidc__> courtc - you did? 09:03 < davidc__> courtc - how do I send email from it? 09:03 < courtc> yup 09:03 < davidc__> is there a webmail? 09:04 < courtc> its a forwarder, I can set up an actual account for you if you need one. 09:05 < davidc__> courtc - that would be good... 09:05 < courtc> k 09:05 < EvilDude> coob: here now but it seems im too late, but I think the playerexit on menu is very buggy after scrubbing because it goes back to menu with screen all fkd up, backlight turns on like its meant to on touch, but i cant change menu etc 09:05 < davidc__> I can add more oomph to the email that way. 09:08 < davidc__> courtc - any luck? 09:08 < courtc> yea, 1 sec 09:12 -!- randomdude [~randomdud@82-147-17-182.dsl.uk.rapidplay.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:17 < davidc__> ok, email is sent 09:26 -!- nu [nusse@zapp.nusse.eu.org] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:30 < courtc> whew, finished up the freeing stuff.. I almost surprised that this works... 09:35 < EvilDude> courtc: what does it do 09:36 < courtc> it has a memory pool that gets filled by a linked list.. 09:36 < EvilDude> ah sort of like the pmalloc itunesdb uses? 09:37 < courtc> maybe.. dunno, haven't looked at it.. 09:39 < courtc> mines cool though, because it was my idea ;) 09:44 < EvilDude> haha, Well I think we need to do something like that for the mp3 buffering 09:46 -!- Friskabuntu [~Friskaddi@145.33.173.1] has joined #ipodlinux 09:47 -!- Friskabuntu [~Friskaddi@145.33.173.1] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 09:53 < courtc> that just seems silly... 09:54 -!- tonkajds_ [~jesse@adsl-68-78-37-198.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 < EvilDude> haha sorry for my silly idea ;) 10:02 -!- tonkajds [~jesse@adsl-68-78-38-179.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 10:03 < courtc> well, I just don't see how a memory pool would help.. ring buffering is better imo.. 10:06 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:14 < EvilDude> yeah but I dont know how the hell a ring buffer works :P 10:14 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:25 < randomdude> hrm - I'm trying to compiled the released ipodlinux kernel and I'm getting 'invalid option 'no-fpu' '.. any ideas? 10:28 * randomdude gives up on release and tries CVS instead. 10:28 -!- tanq_ [~tanq@66.169.136.135.ts46v-07.otnc1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 10:28 -!- tanq [~tanq@66.169.136.135.ts46v-07.otnc1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:53 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:58 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has joined #ipodlinux 10:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 11:06 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 -!- poolio [poolio@pcp0011362386pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:14 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.thor.bonet.ac] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:58 -!- randomdude [~randomdud@82-147-17-182.dsl.uk.rapidplay.com] has quit [] 12:06 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.thor.bonet.ac] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:26 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:31 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 12:36 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:57 -!- Friskabuntu [~Friskaddi@145.33.144.150] has joined #ipodlinux 12:58 -!- Friskabuntu [~Friskaddi@145.33.144.150] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 13:06 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:08 -!- tonkajds_ [~jesse@adsl-68-78-37-198.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:09 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@212.217.173.27] has joined #ipodlinux 13:10 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:15 -!- tonkajds [~jesse@adsl-68-78-37-198.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:23 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:23 -!- Sneakeri [sneaker@a193-229-100-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 13:29 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a193-229-100-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:45 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:49 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:57 -!- budgie_ [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 13:57 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:58 -!- budgie_ is now known as budgie 14:04 < macpod> What the fuck is with that website... 14:23 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@212.217.173.27] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:38 < leachbj> macpod: bit wrong hey... i take it they didnt contact you? 14:40 < macpod> Nope, no contact. I'm assuming it's just a 14 year old who does not understand the gpl/courtesy and is more interested in testing his php programming and perhapse making money with those google ads 14:41 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:41 < macpod> I'm sure it will be fixed with this letter david is sending and if not, a more threatening one will clear it up. 14:42 < macpod> What would have really ticked me off is if they modified the copyright info in the app 14:43 < leachbj> yeah it seems more like overzealous that malicious 14:43 < macpod> yea, do you like the game tunnel 14:47 < macpod> Also, do you have any probs with me requesting people to post their sysinfo files on the forum? 14:47 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has joined #ipodlinux 14:47 < macpod> along with some other info that can all be obtained without backwards engineering 14:51 < leachbj> havent had the chance to check out tunnel yet! will do soon. sysinfo files should be fine, although it may be better to ask for specific fields since that contains the serial number of ipod 14:52 < macpod> k 14:53 < macpod> Within the next week I will finally have a computer with usb and firewire ports :) 14:55 < leachbj> great, back online then ;) 14:56 < macpod> Yea.. ssh-ing through a pc into this old comp isgetting old 14:56 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:56 < macpod> also for when courtc gets here... 14:57 < macpod> there is something odd with timers and games with the newest cvs podzilla build 15:02 < macpod> wow the info on that website is not even close to correct 15:02 < macpod> "hold down the play and fast forward buttons on your iPod to restart it. " 15:03 < leachbj> re timers, yeah my 3g doesnt seem to work so well, but photo is fine. I'm not sure where the problem is from but I think its kernel related. 15:04 < courtc> I swear, I didn't break timers... :) 15:21 < Z_Man> coob: thank you soo much for working on AAC support! 15:27 < leachbj> courtc: perhaps I screwed up a 4g patch in the kernel? thats the best guess I have 15:28 < courtc> hmm.. yea, I can't really see podzilla being the problem considering it works on some and not on others.. 15:29 < courtc> iirc macpod just updated his kernel also (on my request) 15:29 < courtc> not sure if Evildude has seen any of the same problems.. 15:34 < BleuLlama> so. when will Vortex be done? 15:34 < BleuLlama> who's working on that anyway? 15:34 * BleuLlama checks the wiki 15:34 < BleuLlama> hmm. nevermind 15:34 < leachbj> re timers I think oops 15:36 < courtc> BleuLlama- rofl 15:37 < BleuLlama> macpod: which site were you talking about earlier? 15:37 < courtc> ipodarcade.com 15:39 < BleuLlama> oh. yeah. them. 15:40 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has quit ["brb"] 15:41 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@dsl1.ivry.rezel.enst.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 15:44 < courtc> d'ja figure it out leachbj? 15:44 < leachbj> think so. 15:45 -!- Exion [~jon@62.101.237.149] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:46 < courtc> vortex is the game with the 2nd longest development time so far 15:46 < BleuLlama> hahahahahaha 15:46 < BleuLlama> i can make it the 1st longest. 15:46 < BleuLlama> thats because i worked on it for a day, then shelved it for a month 15:46 < courtc> dunno... doom's been around for a while ;) 15:47 < leachbj> and where's our bloody clock macpod? 15:47 < courtc> rofl 15:47 < BleuLlama> i gave him a vector clock 15:47 < BleuLlama> damnit 15:47 < BleuLlama> ;) 15:47 < BleuLlama> i'm considering making an analog clock, actually, with the ability to set it. grab a hand, use the spinner to adjust it 15:47 < leachbj> that'd be nice 15:48 < courtc> awesome.. /me loves analog clocks 15:48 < BleuLlama> but i haven't touched it since i didn't want to overstep onto macpod's feet 15:48 < courtc> I've got three on my desktop... 15:48 < BleuLlama> :/ 15:48 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:49 < courtc> EDT UTC and America/Anchorage 15:50 < leachbj> i'm glad you followed that up court, I thought you meant macpods feet (all 3 of them?!) 15:50 < BleuLlama> hehe 15:50 < courtc> haha! 15:50 < BleuLlama> misplaced modifiers #1 16:05 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:13 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:14 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@fc.emagic.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 < coob> i barely have the desktop space for one clock 16:14 < coob> bloody 1024x768 16:15 < coob> still, that's so much more manageable when you have expose 16:15 < tonkajds> very true, having Desktop Manger is also a great way to keep things tidy 16:15 < BleuLlama> 1152x768 on my main machine. i just have a clock in the titlebar 16:16 < BleuLlama> on this sun workstation though, i have two 20" monitors 1600x1280 each... so that's pretty nice. 16:16 -!- acs_ [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 16:19 -!- hyarion is now known as hyarion|afk 16:23 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:24 < BleuLlama> you want an analog clock? 16:24 < BleuLlama> fine. 16:24 < BleuLlama> give me a few minutes. 16:26 < coob> heh i used to have a wareware version of lights.c 16:27 < coob> hardware* 16:27 < coob> called 'lights out' or something 16:27 < BleuLlama> yep. that's the real name of it 16:27 < BleuLlama> if you go to a toy store, you can buy a "Lights Out" game. 16:29 * coob notices Modifying_Podzilla update, hooray! 16:29 < coob> and pretty colours too! 16:29 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEA2FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:39 -!- JMunakra1 [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@fc.emagic.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:52 -!- JMunakra1 [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:56 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050321]"] 16:57 < macpod> Well, I only have 2 feet, but sometimes people think I have 3. 16:57 < macpod> The clock will come eventually 16:57 < macpod> college is killing me atm 17:01 < macpod> adn dhl lost my 600$ package... 17:07 < courtc> dubious hackage lamer? 17:08 < courtc> a damn n00b dubious hackage lamer... that must be what he meant.. 17:10 < macpod> http://www.dhl-usa.com/home/home.asp 17:10 < macpod> sucks 17:11 < courtc> never heard of 'em.. 17:11 < macpod> there's a reason for that 17:12 < coob> they're bigger in europe... 17:16 < courtc> dubious homedelivery lackeys.. 17:20 < courtc> see if when you save a draft other people can review it.. 17:21 -!- Ataraxis [~ataraxis@p54AC7A53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:23 < coob> doh 17:23 < coob> up already, sorry 17:23 < coob> http://www.ipodlinux.org/blog/ 17:27 * courtc unmixes his channel windows... 17:35 < courtc> hmm.. perhaps I will write a page that unifies the anoncvs based "Recent CVS" and the devcvs based cia xml.. 17:36 < BleuLlama> ugh/ good luck on that macpod. :( 17:36 < BleuLlama> i've used DHL/Airborne Express only for sending stuff to/from Apple for repairs. 17:37 < BleuLlama> ugh/ i have to remember how to do sin/cosine for this clock thing. :( 17:39 < courtc> we already use lm.. just use that, if it not worth the effort.. 17:47 < BleuLlama> almost done 17:47 < BleuLlama> yeah. i'm using the standard math,. but i need to call cos, sin, and i ddin't remember how to do it 17:47 < BleuLlama> google is my friend 17:49 -!- usv [~jpaalija@asuka.tky.hut.fi] has quit ["WHATTHEFUCK"] 17:49 -!- usv [~jpaalija@asuka.tky.hut.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 17:51 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.119.239] has joined #ipodlinux 17:53 < courtc> would anyone find that page useful other than me? it'd be like "Recent CVS", but up-to-date with dev cvs.. the stuff that would be in dev cvs but not anon cvs would be disinguished somehow (I'm thinking red) and unlinky.. 17:54 < wembley> courtc 17:54 < wembley> i would 17:55 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-003-106.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:55 < wembley> well, i don't know exactly how usefull 17:55 < wembley> but i would read it 17:55 < wembley> lol 17:56 < courtc> k, I'll put it on my TODO list 17:56 < wembley> courtc, do you know if podzilla is using threads for input? 17:56 < courtc> it is not 17:56 < wembley> ok 17:57 < wembley> are timers threaded? 17:57 < wembley> er, i'll reword that 17:58 < wembley> are the input and times blocking? 17:58 < wembley> timers* 17:59 < coob> there's an event queue 17:59 < wembley> ok 17:59 < wembley> good 18:00 < wembley> if they were running seperately at the same time, it would be bad for me because i'd need to queue things in my program :( 18:00 < coob> BleuLlama: look at cube.c for some fixed int sin/cos stuff 18:00 < courtc> coob- its a clock.. ... ... 18:00 < BleuLlama> already figured it out. 18:00 < BleuLlama> :) 18:01 < BleuLlama> i'm using regular floats. only doing a little with them 18:01 < BleuLlama> almost done. just making it look nice now 18:01 < coob> heh ok 18:02 < courtc> we need more 4o min apps from BleuLlama.. he's pretty good at that... On the other hand ... vortex 18:02 < courtc> err.. 40 18:02 < wembley> all the simple stuff i start making ends up blowing up into bigger things, lol 18:03 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:03 < wembley> that, or i end up spending days trying to get it perfect and have the code be small/fast 18:03 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 18:04 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-003-106.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 18:04 < courtc> wembley- same here.. that and I think I spend more time indenting than i do coding... 18:04 < wembley> i need to find a better editor than gedit 18:04 < wembley> and i need to find a way to turn off my damned touchpad tapping thing 18:04 * courtc suggests gvim 18:05 < wembley> i spend way to much time fixing crap because i accdentally touch the pad 18:05 * wembley is used to vc#sk5 ide and is spoiled 18:05 < wembley> i enjoy command/variable autocompelete stuff 18:06 * BleuLlama shudders at autocomplete 18:06 < wembley> and being able to tab/reverse-tab while selecting many lines 18:06 < wembley> i like it because i make a lot f typos 18:07 < courtc> autocomplete for me: *stops typing* "what was that damn function name again?" `a "Oh, right" `` *continues typing* 18:08 < wembley> that too :) 18:08 < wembley> i've been completely ruined by c# 18:09 < wembley> it makes things really simple/straightforward 18:09 * courtc shudders at c# 18:09 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:09 < wembley> i like its bloatedness 18:14 < CIA-11> leachbj * linux/include/asm-armnommu/arch-ipod/time.h: fixed gettimeoffset for both pp5020 and pp5002 (were previously back-to-front) 18:16 -!- Ataraxis [~ataraxis@p54AC7A53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:27 < wembley> anyone know how to disable the "tapping" on laptop touchpads? 18:28 < macpod> did that patch that bern just apply fix the game timer issue? 18:28 < courtc> macpod- yea 18:30 < davidc__> so lets see if those slezebags responded eh courtc? 18:30 < courtc> heh 18:30 < davidc__> nope, no response 18:31 < macpod> david, you gotta give them till this evening 18:31 < macpod> remember, they are at middle/high school now 18:33 < BleuLlama> okay. analog clock done 18:33 < macpod> If that fails I'm gonna do a pexec ping -f website on em 18:33 < davidc__> macpod - don't do anythign so rude 18:33 < macpod> with 1100 g5s! 18:33 < BleuLlama> it has an art-deco look, but you can change that by toggling a static int in the code. 18:33 < BleuLlama> http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/Software/iPod/analog.c 18:33 < davidc__> I can root their forums with one press of enter ;) 18:33 < davidc__> and from their, the rest of their website 18:34 < macpod> right, because their forum admin pass is probably the same as the pass on their windows 2003 server 18:34 < BleuLlama> it's ready for time adjustment code too. uncomment the 'select button' code, and the select button toggles which hand you're adjusting... the time adjustment code isn't there yet, it's just stubbed out. 18:34 < davidc__> macpod - they're using apache 1.33 18:34 < macpod> is ti just the time, or day, month, year, etc 18:34 < davidc__> macpod - you sure its windows server? 18:35 < macpod> no, just making guesses from their website 18:35 < courtc> BleuLlama- entry point? 18:36 < BleuLlama> at the bottom of the file new_analogclock_window() 18:36 * courtc will read through the code later.. 18:36 < wembley> what site are you guys talking about? 18:37 < wembley> i think i missed something 18:39 < courtc> BleuLlama- isn't compiling with pedantic, thats for sure ;) 18:40 < courtc> ahh.. its the stub stuff 18:40 < BleuLlama> what's wrong with it (other than inc/dec having an int for return value.. my bad) 18:40 < BleuLlama> uploading better version now 18:41 < courtc> yea, that was all.. I was just chastising.. 18:41 < BleuLlama> hehe 18:43 < courtc> wow.. art deco indeed 18:43 < BleuLlama> it's like a Nelson Ball Clock. 18:44 < BleuLlama> http://images.google.com/images?q=nelson+ball+clock 18:44 < BleuLlama> kinda 18:44 < macpod> looks like that site is running linux 18:44 < macpod> but ti has frontpage.. 18:45 < macpod> php 4.3.11 18:45 < courtc> apache has frontpage extentions :P 18:45 < macpod> :/ 18:45 < macpod> 1.3.33 18:45 < courtc> I like the traditional look... quite clean.. 18:45 < macpod> huh? 18:46 < courtc> (for the clock) 18:46 < macpod> mm :) finally a clock 18:46 < BleuLlama> yep. i figured some people would like one over the other 18:46 < macpod> One day I'll get the clock done ;) 18:46 < BleuLlama> no thoughts yet about how to change the look other than compile time right now though. 18:46 < BleuLlama> all of the hooks are in it for adding time adjustment code too. 18:47 < macpod> with a snazzy alarm 18:48 < CIA-11> coobert * tools/podzilla/ (aac.c ChangeLog Makefile browser.c itunesmenu.c playlist.c): added AAC support 18:48 < coob> ... 18:48 < coob> tada! 18:48 < courtc> BleuLlama- how is '16' 1 sec? 18:48 < macpod> uh oh.. aac? 18:48 < BleuLlama> where is that, courtc? 18:49 < BleuLlama> oh. 18:49 < BleuLlama> right 18:49 < BleuLlama> 1000ms / 60 18:49 < BleuLlama> close enough 18:50 < BleuLlama> oh. holy crap i'm a moron 18:50 < courtc> macpod- m4a/m4b 18:50 < BleuLlama> that should be 1000, not 15 18:50 < BleuLlama> that should be 1000, not 16 18:50 < davidc__> coob - you've got m4a / m4p support? 18:50 < BleuLlama> HAHAHAHA. i need sleep 18:50 < davidc__> in cvs? 18:50 * BleuLlama kills himself 18:51 < davidc__> coob - have you modified the building podzilla pages to account for the new libs? 18:51 < courtc> I thought so (??) why is it updating every second though? 18:51 < coob> yes. 18:51 < macpod> hmm.. if someone makes a build and it is stable I'll add that to the installer 18:51 < coob> no m4p support 18:51 < BleuLlama> courtc: to redraw the second hand 18:52 < coob> hmm 18:52 < coob> if that timer fix reversed the timers 18:52 < coob> doe sthat mean timers on a g4 will be faster? 18:52 < courtc> nah, I mean.. wait.. nm, I see how it works 18:52 -!- usv [~jpaalija@asuka.tky.hut.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 18:52 < coob> shit davidc, sorry 18:52 < courtc> didn't see the time test.. 18:52 < coob> i forgot about your nightly build stuff 18:53 < courtc> coob- why would they be? 18:53 < coob> i dunno 18:53 < coob> i just sawt hat something was swapped.. 18:53 < coob> davidc__: the libs are easy to build 18:54 < courtc> BleuLlama- thought you knew something about the timers that I didn't ;) 18:54 < coob> the make-build-dir.sh script assumes you have lndir, if you're building only for ipod just mv src ipod 18:54 < BleuLlama> hehe. nope. i'm just a moron. 18:54 -!- Ataraxis [~ataraxis@p54AC7A53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:55 -!- usv [~jpaalija@asuka.tky.hut.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 18:55 < BleuLlama> okay. back to work for me. enough of this clock-coding crap. 18:56 < courtc> do you mind if I make a couple changes? just a tiny patch? 18:56 < coob> right, time for a blog entry 18:57 < BleuLlama> you're on the other end of the patch submission pipe. go for it. You guys (the main devs) are like the editors. we submit content, you tweak, change, prod it for release. 18:57 < BleuLlama> what's the change you're going to make? 18:57 < courtc> just to set up the EXPOSURE event properly, the header doesn't need to be drawn every second... 18:57 < BleuLlama> aah. nice. yeah. i didn't know how to do that properly. 18:58 * BleuLlama is curious as to what the change looks like. 19:04 * macpod guesses courtc is putting a wood finish on the clock. 19:04 < coob> BleuLlama: what's your first name? 19:04 < BleuLlama> NICE 19:04 < BleuLlama> heh 19:04 < BleuLlama> Scott Lawrence 19:04 < coob> of course 19:04 < BleuLlama> Jerry is a nickname 19:04 < coob> i always get you confused with macpod 19:04 < coob> heh ok 19:05 < BleuLlama> oh. okay. 19:05 < macpod> how? 19:05 < hyarion|afk> macLlama and Bluepod :D 19:05 < courtc> no, i'm just terribly slow (and extremely distracted) 19:05 -!- hyarion|afk is now known as hyarion 19:05 < davidc__> Bleumac and Llamapod 19:05 < BleuLlama> i sometimes get leachbj and fre_ber mixed up. but it's the 'bern' name that confuses them in my head 19:06 < BleuLlama> LLAMAPOD! 19:06 < BleuLlama> heh 19:06 < BleuLlama> bbiaf 19:06 < courtc> isnt fre_ber _Berg_holts ? 19:07 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ac-exposure.diff 19:08 < courtc> theres probably some fuzz in that patch.. I did half of it by hand... 19:09 -!- kalifen [~chatzilla@c213-89-93-210.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ipodlinux 19:12 * courtc needs a dynamic CTCP VERSION responce.. so kalifen would've gotten "something better than chatzilla" ;) 19:12 < hyarion> is it possible to flush the sound buffer? 19:13 < courtc> umm... you can sync or reset it... 19:13 < hyarion> but my program freezes if I try to sync it :/ 19:14 < courtc> (the device) but it won't do much for the dsp buffer afaik 19:14 < courtc> syncing takes a little while sometimes.. 19:15 < courtc> make sure you are using the latest kernel.. 19:15 < courtc> or at least a semi-recent one.. 19:15 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-153-187-63.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:15 < coob> just write a bunch of zero bits to it. 19:15 < coob> that'll do the trick... 19:15 < hyarion> how big is the buffer then? 19:15 < courtc> haha.. 19:16 < courtc> hyarion- I don't think you should depend on it being a particular size... 19:17 < hyarion> but what are the max size then? 19:18 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 19:19 < BleuLlama> oh. haha. i didn't realize i had that extra level of redraw in there. oops. 19:20 < BleuLlama> oh no. wait. you added that. 19:20 * BleuLlama will learn how to read patches someday 19:20 < courtc> heh.. 19:22 < courtc> yea, that will redraw the screen if it gets an exposure, and won't mess with the header unless it gets one 19:22 -!- root_ [~root@c213-89-93-210.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ipodlinux 19:23 < coob> haha 19:23 < coob> [20:23] [freenode] «CTCP» | Got VERSION reply from root: BitchX-1.0c19+ by panasync - Linux 2.4.25 : Keep it to yourself! 19:23 < coob> baaad idea. 19:24 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.119.239] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:25 < courtc> <-- missing the point 19:25 < hyarion> BleuLlama, I think my sidplayer is finished now... 19:25 < BleuLlama> hyar: it's in C, not C++, right? 19:26 < hyarion> that's the problem... 19:26 < hyarion> sidplay uses c++ 19:26 < BleuLlama> courtc: so you just moved the draw stuff out into it's own methods, right? (and adjusted the TIMER thingy). 19:26 < BleuLlama> aah. hmm. 19:26 < BleuLlama> okay. that might be trickier to integrate 19:27 < coob> courtc: ircing as root.. 19:27 < hyarion> but the player is c only 19:27 -!- root_ [~root@c213-89-93-210.cm-upc.chello.se] has quit ["leaving"] 19:27 < coob> using bitchx :) 19:27 < BleuLlama> coob: what could possibly go wrong!? 19:27 < BleuLlama> ;) 19:27 < coob> ah wait i versioned the wrong user 19:27 < coob> oh well. 19:28 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0041.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:28 < courtc> oh, haha.. didn't even notice root_ join 19:29 < hyarion> but why are you so anti c++? 19:30 < coob> because we don't know it :) 19:30 < coob> well, I don't :) 19:30 < BleuLlama> if it's C++, it won't make it into core podzilla, since they have a pure-c thing with it. 19:30 < hyarion> hehe 19:30 < BleuLlama> i've been working with C++ for the past 6 years or so... heh. I' 19:30 < BleuLlama> I 19:30 < BleuLlama> augh 19:30 < BleuLlama> I'm pretty good with it. 19:31 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < BleuLlama> I know where to look for docs and help, and i can fumble my way around with things i don't know... 19:32 < BleuLlama> which is about all i could really ask for. 19:32 < BleuLlama> IMO, it's not how well you know the language, it's how well you know what features it has, and where (and how) to look stuff up. 19:33 < BleuLlama> if you know it can do XXX, but don't know how to do it, you can look it up and find out.... 19:33 < BleuLlama> etc. 19:33 * BleuLlama stuf 19:33 < coob> yeah i still don't know C stuff 19:33 < coob> wth does 'register' to a variable? 19:34 < courtc> BleuLlama- the EXPOSURE event indicates that the screen needs to be drawn/redrawn.. it usually will only happen when you map the window and when the window gets covered/uncovered... what I did was make the function that gets called on an EXPOSURE just call the draw function and set the title... i renamed the draw function because it was just easier and conforms with most other podzilla apps... 19:34 < BleuLlama> if the compiler can confine that variable to a register, rather than putting it on a stack, it will do that. 19:34 < BleuLlama> gotcha, courtc. 19:35 < coob> ah ok. 19:35 < BleuLlama> generally, local variables are kept on the stack. this is usually much slower than accessing them from a register. 19:35 < BleuLlama> yeah. :) 19:35 < coob> gottit 19:35 < BleuLlama> i think globals are in a heap allocated when the program is run, but i'm not sure about the specifics of that 19:35 < BleuLlama> or just kept in the data segment of the app, which is loaded into ram. yeah. that's probably it. 19:36 < BleuLlama> courtc: I'm not seeing the EXPOSURE stuff in that patch. 19:37 < coob> does anyone know what timezone david'cs server is in? 19:37 < courtc> BleuLlama- the first function you pass to pz_new_window gets called on an GR_EVENT_TYPE_EXPOSURE 19:37 < coob> i want to know when his nightly's build 19:37 < coob> *davidc_'s 19:37 < BleuLlama> gotcha. 19:38 < BleuLlama> i didn't know that. :) 19:38 < hyarion> BleuLlama, what do you think i should do with my player then? keep it for myself and not release it to the public, only because it's using a c++ core? 19:38 < BleuLlama> okay. I understand completely now, courtc. Thank you. :) 19:39 < BleuLlama> hyar: well, right now, it's in your own podzilla build? 19:39 < coob> hyarion: release it of course, but it's not neccesarily going to get into CVS if it's C++ 19:39 < hyarion> yep 19:39 < BleuLlama> i'll add it into my mikpodzilla. 19:39 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:39 < coob> like bleullama's mikmod stuff 19:39 < BleuLlama> merge your sidplay and my mikmod into one 3rd party podzilla 19:39 < coob> the 'crap music' podzilla build? :) 19:39 < coob> ...i jest :) 19:39 < hyarion> hehe 19:39 < BleuLlama> do a 'make clean' and tar/gzip it up, and mail that archive to me? 19:40 < BleuLlama> coob: shut it. 19:40 < BleuLlama> ;) 19:40 < coob> heh 19:40 < coob> merge the aac stuff in 19:40 < BleuLlama> no. the "specialized music" podzilla build 19:40 < coob> for ultimatezilla10000 19:40 < BleuLlama> well, i base my mikmodzilla on current cvs when it's built 19:40 < coob> cool 19:41 * BleuLlama notes that every time he puts a name down for his mikmod-podzilla, that he uses a diferent name for it 19:41 < coob> i changed some stuff in browser/playlist if that's going to affect you 19:41 < coob> is it mikmodzilla or mikpodzilla? 19:41 < BleuLlama> no prob. mikmod uses its own playlist, and i haven't added the individual mod-from-browser launcher yet. 19:41 < BleuLlama> mikmodpodzilla modzilla etc. 19:41 < BleuLlama> mikzilla 19:42 < BleuLlama> podmod 19:42 < BleuLlama> etc 19:42 < courtc> BleuLlama- yup, np. yea, It isn't really made clear anywhere whats happening with that... I added some comments about it to the Modifing_Podzilla page just recently... I really intend to beef that page up over time... Knowledge is no use when its horded :) 19:42 < coob> milkallizdop? 19:42 < BleuLlama> mipodkzillamod 19:42 < coob> courtc mind if I add a bit about relitivity? 19:42 < BleuLlama> i'm done here. 19:42 < hyarion> i like sidzilla better :D 19:42 < courtc> coob- please do 19:42 < BleuLlama> heh 19:43 < BleuLlama> i was thinking about adding stuff about doublebuffering to it, since it's something most apps will want to do 19:43 < BleuLlama> or rather what most devs will want to do with their apps. heh 19:43 < courtc> BleuLlama- yea, please do 19:44 < BleuLlama> i'll do that tonight. :) 19:45 -!- Z_ManXR [Gluon@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 19:46 < courtc> I mis-arranged the functions in order to make the explanations a little easier.. If you can do it in a more sane way, have at it.. 19:46 < coob> there's hero_draw and draw_hero, are they supposed to be the same? 19:47 < courtc> yea, i'm lysdecis 19:47 < courtc> with an x 19:47 < coob> hah 19:48 < coob> i always thought it was bit mean speling dyslexic like poeple do... 19:48 < coob> and i typoed people. classic. 19:50 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:51 -!- kalifen [~chatzilla@c213-89-93-210.cm-upc.chello.se] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0/20050123]"] 19:53 -!- Z_ManXR is now known as Z_Man 20:00 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:00 -!- tonkajds [~jesse@adsl-68-78-37-198.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:00 -!- veteran [~root@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:01 -!- veteran [~root@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:07 < courtc> I like the make-build-dirs.sh but I'm not sure that lndir comes standard on all ditros or even exists on cygwhinw... 20:07 < courtc> joke gone bad.. *cygwhine 20:08 < BleuLlama> it's in the X11 distros, isn't it? 20:09 * courtc not using x11 on a few machines :/ 20:09 < courtc> oh well.. close enough 20:09 < BleuLlama> understood. i was just thinking that most people who build podzilla will be building X11 versions too. 20:09 < BleuLlama> i dunno. 20:10 < coob> well then they can figure out mv src ipod 20:10 < coob> :) 20:10 < coob> that should porbably be on the wiki... 20:10 < BleuLlama> hehe 20:10 < coob> probably* 20:10 < courtc> nah, just update the scripts ;) 20:11 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 20:13 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-103.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 < leachbj> BlueLlama; i like the clock! a full-screen mode would be nice too 20:17 < BleuLlama> that would be easy to do, i think. 20:18 < BleuLlama> perhaps switching on 'hold' makes it full screen? 20:18 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i'll figure it out later. 20:18 < BleuLlama> thanks though. :) 20:18 < leachbj> action button? 20:18 < BleuLlama> action is for setting the time 20:18 < BleuLlama> (eventually) 20:18 < leachbj> yeah guess 20:18 < leachbj> hold down action to set time? 20:18 < BleuLlama> yeah. probably. 20:18 < davidc__> hey bern... 20:18 < BleuLlama> i just wanted to get a first version out there. I wrote the code so that it should work fine on any size screen. 20:18 < courtc> hold actually sounds pretty cool for fs.. 20:19 < davidc__> just noticed your presence 20:19 < BleuLlama> so resizing it for full screen would be pretty easy. 20:19 < leachbj> hey david 20:19 < leachbj> and of course a setting for analog new/old or digital 20:20 < BleuLlama> yep. well, i made a digital clock based on my vector font stuff, which macpod has now. i should integrate it back in to this. 20:20 < coob> davidc__: do you want some binaries of the helix-aacdec and mp4ff libs built with gcc 3.4? they're slightly faster. 20:20 < coob> (for the nightlys) 20:21 < davidc__> coob - possibly 20:21 < davidc__> coob - are the new libs in cvs? 20:21 < davidc__> I gotta figure out how to add their build stuff to the nightlys... 20:21 < davidc__> and if they're in cvs, I build them every night anyways 20:21 < coob> davidc__: they're in the download dir... 20:21 < davidc__> microwin is rebuilt nightly, so is libitunes.. etc 20:21 < davidc__> coob - ok, so they're not cvs tracked.. 20:21 < coob> nope 20:22 < davidc__> we should put them into cvs eventually 20:22 < coob> probably yeah 20:22 < coob> atm though only the build system is altered 20:23 < davidc__> coob - yeah, but eventually we'll alter more... 20:25 * leachbj is away: I'm busy 20:27 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/images/9/99/Prebuilt-aac-libs.tgz <-- davidc__ 20:27 < coob> just untar that in the same dir that podzilla's in and your script would still work fine 20:28 < davidc__> yeah, guess so... 20:28 < davidc__> I'd still rather grab the latest and rebuild it 20:29 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < coob> the latest what? 20:31 < coob> podzilla/kernel don't build witht he latest toolchain :/ 20:32 < davidc__> no, I mean grab the latest aac and build it 20:33 < davidc__> incase we ever change anything 20:33 < davidc__> and besides, it really should go into cvs 20:34 < coob> well that's up to bern. 20:34 < coob> you can't access the datatype cvs without a lgoin 20:34 < coob> i had to wget from their viewcvs.cgi 20:39 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-179-146.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:39 < davidc__> yech 20:43 -!- Marlon_ [~marlon@global.phoonet.info] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 20:43 < courtc> davidc__- we've got a reply 20:45 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 -!- Marlon [~marlon@global.phoonet.info] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 20:48 < davidc__> courtc - you readin my mail! 20:48 < courtc> umm.. no, I'm uhh guessing 20:49 < davidc__> especially as the email was listed as read 20:49 < davidc__> bad courtc 20:49 < courtc> haha.. change your password.. 20:49 < davidc__> well, there is an attribution on the page now 20:49 < davidc__> but its at the bottom 20:50 < davidc__> and sorta invisible : 20:50 < courtc> well lets give them some time to change the site.. 20:50 < davidc__> they did... 20:51 < courtc> yea, one extra link.. woo 20:51 < davidc__> heh... 20:51 < davidc__> yeah, lets give em some time.. there still isn't a source code link.. shall I compose a reply, or just do a wait-and-see? 20:52 < courtc> s'up to you 20:52 < courtc> now, I forgot your account exists.. wha? what email? 20:53 < davidc__> I'm feeling lazy.. and I guess I should change that password... 20:53 < davidc__> either that, or I'll booby trap it with an email containing lastmeasure 20:54 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:55 < courtc> I've got enough of my own mail to be sifting through, I don't need to be reading someone elses also.. ;) 20:57 < hyarion> I think somebody should write something in their forum, maybe answer to this... http://www.ipodarcade.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14 20:57 -!- Marlon_ is now known as Marlon 20:58 < BleuLlama> i think they should also have a "Games don't really look like this" disclaimer. 20:58 < BleuLlama> i dont' want to see support questions for their hackish website on our forums 21:00 < BleuLlama> think i'll integrate the digital clock to the analog clock, and add a binary clock mode too. 21:01 < davidc__> courtc - you already were reading my mail! 21:01 < davidc__> you little twat. 21:03 < courtc> I read only that message... I thought it was in ____'s best interest (I'll figure the blank out in a second) 21:03 < courtc> ;) 21:04 < courtc> sorry, if i knew you would be so offended I wouldn't have even thought about it.. 21:05 < hyarion> david__ (or courtc :P ) what did they say? 21:06 < courtc> "Don't read this courtc, you little twat." 21:07 < courtc> davidc__ was in on it the whole time... He's one of them! 21:09 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 21:12 * courtc has a feeling davidc__ holds grudges for a while... 21:13 < courtc> good thing I haven't planned any trips to canada for the next 20 (or so) years 21:15 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:17 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1580 <--- terribly confused person.. 21:17 < davidc__> heh.. I'm not particularly offended.. I just like giving you a hard time 21:17 < davidc__> and I'd alreeady forgot about it courtc 21:18 < courtc> :) 21:18 < BleuLlama> i'm at a loss for what you could possibly print out as far as a "CAT resource" 21:18 < courtc> rofl 21:19 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 < BleuLlama> you know, i want to know how to edit text files with 'fortune', or read my mail with doom. 21:20 < davidc__> well, you should check out psdoom 21:20 < davidc__> its top, but with monsters 21:20 < BleuLlama> hehe. yeah. i rememebr that. 21:20 < courtc> hahaha.. psdoom.. fun times.. 21:20 < BleuLlama> i remember it being hard to tell which process was which, and accidently 'killing' the psdoom process 21:21 < BleuLlama> heh 21:21 < BleuLlama> proof that just because you /can/ do something doesn't mean you /should/ do it. 21:28 < courtc> hmm? oh, I thought Windows was that proof.. 21:28 < BleuLlama> heh 21:28 < BleuLlama> busonerd == davidc ? 21:28 < courtc> yep 21:28 < BleuLlama> i dunno why i never made that connection. heh. 21:30 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit ["zZzZzZz..."] 21:32 < davidc__> BleuLlama whoa. you didn't know that?!?!??! 21:32 < BleuLlama> i guess not. hehe. 21:32 * BleuLlama shrugs 21:32 < davidc__> ok, there's one person on the boards who acts like a complete asshole 21:32 < BleuLlama> guess i'm ignorant or something 21:32 < davidc__> and there's one in irc 21:32 < BleuLlama> one? 21:32 < davidc__> its quite a simple connection 21:33 < BleuLlama> Math is hard. 21:37 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-240.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:41 < coob> haha 21:41 < coob> i think i just set fire to my laptop... 21:41 < coob> at least, it smels of burning... 21:48 < coob> 'About Us 21:48 < coob> iPodArcade.com was created in 1979 by two people who realized the demand for ipod games would soon reach an all time high.' 21:55 < davidc__> yeah.. someone just copied some about text 21:55 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 21:55 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|busy 21:56 < tanq_> maybe its all that cpu intensive stuff you've been doing 21:56 < tanq_> heh 21:56 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has quit ["Like IRC ? use Gluon IRC !"] 21:58 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 22:03 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-153-187-63.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Client exiting"] 22:23 -!- Z_Man [Zachary@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has quit ["Gluon IRC, Mother tested, Mother approved !"] 22:27 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:32 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:32 -!- nilss [nils@2001:6f8:1226:1:0:0:d95d:3544] has quit [Operation timed out] 22:32 < BleuLlama> how are y'all doing? 22:33 < coob> swell 22:33 < coob> my laptop didn't melt! 22:33 < coob> i think one of the fans may be bust tho 22:33 < BleuLlama> HOORAY! 22:33 < veteran> ugh i miss my laptop... sold it in november 22:34 < BleuLlama> i should get my old one working again. 22:34 < veteran> speed scaling is beautiful 22:48 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.119.237] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 -!- wembley is now known as wembley|food 22:49 < EvilDude> AAC support in cvs, yay! 22:50 < Bi-noix> :) 22:50 < Bi-noix> great 22:51 < Bi-noix> how did hey find sources ? 22:54 < EvilDude> From Helix AAC sources 22:54 < macpod> coob since when do you have a 3.4 arm-elf gcc compiler? 22:56 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-78-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:57 -!- tonkajds [~jesse@adsl-68-78-37-198.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:59 -!- sllp [~sleepy@65.124.107.14] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 < EvilDude> courtc: you around? 23:15 < coob> macpod since the other week... 23:15 < coob> x86 though 23:15 < EvilDude> coob: was just about to ask courtc about podzilla for desktop thinking you weren't around 23:15 < coob> oh 23:15 < EvilDude> Does aac work on desktop? 23:15 < coob> yep 23:16 < coob> on linux at least... 23:16 < EvilDude> ah cool 23:16 < EvilDude> very nice then :D 23:16 < coob> i dunno if sygwin creates a /dev/dsp device, i assume not 23:16 < EvilDude> na I'm using VMWare 23:16 < EvilDude> screw cygwin 23:16 < coob> cool 23:16 < coob> yeah just grab the tarballs then 23:16 < EvilDude> So did you get the ff rr stuff I told you? 23:16 < EvilDude> yep all that done ;) 23:16 < EvilDude> about to get my iTunesDB from iPod so I can test 23:16 < coob> yeah, that seems really odd 23:17 < coob> then just a 'make' in the x11 dirs 23:17 < EvilDude> yeah i found out just then 23:17 < EvilDude> was a little surprised when it told me the x11 versions of aac and mp4ff weren't found 23:17 < EvilDude> so i went in and found that there was in fact an x11 dir 23:18 < EvilDude> hmm on desktop, for current time it shows: "00:00:xxtime" 23:19 < EvilDude> the xx is the current time stuff 23:19 < EvilDude> but time just appended on end? 23:19 < tanq_> which uclinux.diff patch do we use. the 2.4-24-uc0 or the 2.4.24-uc1 or both 23:19 < coob> jus uc0 23:19 < tanq_> ok 23:19 < coob> just* 23:20 < tanq_> just double checking.. 23:20 < coob> EvilDude: hmm yeah i thought i'd taken 'time' out, obviously not 23:20 < coob> i'll fix that at some point 23:20 < EvilDude> yeah no rush 23:20 < coob> it working ok for you? 23:20 < EvilDude> yep working well 23:21 < coob> you need xset r off 23:21 < EvilDude> Well can't test playlist stuff atm coz x11 + iTunesDB dont get along too well 23:21 < coob> for scrubbing 23:21 < EvilDude> yeah gonna try that now 23:22 -!- veteran [~blake@cpe-24-28-114-153.houston.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:22 < EvilDude> scrubbing seems to work ok on x11 too 23:23 < EvilDude> Is it meant to playback frames very quickly during scrubbing? 23:23 < coob> yes 23:23 < EvilDude> ah coz for some reason it didn't do that on the first >> on iPod 23:23 < EvilDude> not sure now 23:23 < coob> it's skipping 10 frames at a time... 23:23 < EvilDude> probably works ok 23:23 < EvilDude> cool 23:23 < coob> also you may wish to try the next nightly kernel 23:24 < coob> as that has a 3g timer fix... 23:24 -!- Ataraxis [~ataraxis@p54AC7A53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:24 < EvilDude> oh ok 23:32 < EvilDude> so are you now working on killing IPP ;) ? 23:34 < tanq_> does anyone else in here get a lot of "previous definition" warnings when building the kernel 23:37 < EvilDude> interesting, my song lengths now come up as 1:05 and 40 seconds etc :| 23:37 < tonkajds> when is this channel normally hopping? 23:38 < courtc> um.. late at night, when the developers are cranky and noobs seem to love asking stupid questions. 23:39 < tonkajds> like mine? 23:39 < courtc> no, your question was just strange.. --- Log closed Thu Apr 14 00:00:00 2005