--- Log opened Sun Apr 10 00:00:01 2005 00:00 < tanq> although too many variables to even think about bit shifting 00:00 < tanq> i suppose i could plug it in where applicable 00:00 < davidc__> tanq - use whenever possible 00:01 < davidc__> its not such a big deal on the latest pentium, but on an arm, its a huge difference 00:01 < tanq> our issue is more memory over cpu bottleneck 00:01 < tanq> well davidc__ it will probably help in this case.. since the app is computation intensive 00:01 < wembley> erf, found it isn't the drawing that is slow 00:02 < davidc__> wembley - what is slow then? 00:02 < davidc__> wembley - physics? 00:02 < wembley> something else 00:02 < tanq> its just that we need to keep as much data cached so it can be reused 00:02 < wembley> iunno yet 00:02 < wembley> i'm commenting things out until i see it go fast 00:02 < tanq> well off to $tarbuck$ 00:02 < fre_ber> Trace printouts? 00:02 < coob> oh also. 00:02 < coob> so basically RPSL is compatible with GPL, just not viceversa (according to the strict explenation of the GPL license). 00:02 < coob> quote from a real dev 00:03 < coob> :) 00:03 < coob> https://helixcommunity.org/content/complicense 00:03 < davidc__> heh, so what does that mean to us? 00:03 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has joined #ipodlinux 00:04 < coob> it means we can use it fine 00:04 < wembley> well 00:04 < coob> and distribute binaries + source fine 00:04 < wembley> it's as fast as it is going to be i guess 00:04 < BleuLlama> wembley: replace all divides with bitshifts, and it should speed up substantially 00:04 < coob> but, we can't put any GPL code into the lib itself. 00:05 < BleuLlama> or just rewrite the game from scratch 00:05 < wembley> i turned off everything except drawing a counter 00:05 < davidc__> wembley - trust me, an 8mhz ti-83 can do it fine 00:05 < wembley> and it was still slow 00:05 < davidc__> then so can yours 00:05 < coob> so if you make modifications to the lib for your cop stuff 00:05 < coob> you have to license those modifications under rpsl i think 00:05 < wembley> davidc__, i turned off everything 00:05 < davidc__> eh, it can be under the GPL as long as I'm not a stickler 00:06 < wembley> the drawing and the updating of the ball/blocks 00:06 < davidc__> because I would e the only one who could sue ;) 00:06 < coob> lol 00:06 < wembley> all that was running was a counter and having it print to the screen 00:06 < davidc__> wembley - if a ti-83 can do it, yours can, if you don't fuck up. 00:06 < davidc__> you must be doing something wrong 00:06 < wembley> a ti83 isn't running podzilla 00:06 < davidc__> podzilla + linux kernel take almost nothing 00:06 < BleuLlama> podzilla has almost no overhead 00:07 < wembley> the the ti83 falldown was written with asm 00:07 < davidc__> besdies, we have lots of other high-speed games 00:07 < hyarion> even ti82... 00:07 < wembley> i'll send you the .c file for it 00:07 < fre_ber> Grr... It seems as if I'm not the only one with newline problems, or am I? The diff I just made tells me that most of the tuxchess files have changed by adding a CR at the end of every single line.. :| 00:07 < davidc__> fine, but I won't guarantee I'll look @ it right away. 00:07 < BleuLlama> yeah. other games do a lot, and still run well 00:07 < davidc__> fre_ber stop using windows 00:07 < wembley> you can verify that the *only* thing going on is a counter being updated and printed to the screen 00:07 < davidc__> fre_ber - that will solve all your problems 00:08 < fre_ber> No, since someone else apparently checked in files with CR+NL line endings... 00:08 < davidc__> ah, its not your fault then 00:08 < fre_ber> I don't think so... 00:08 < davidc__> someone else should stop using windows 00:09 < fre_ber> :) 00:09 < fre_ber> I have fixed my "fixNL" script.. :) 00:09 < coob> um which files 00:09 < coob> cos i don't see no CR 00:09 < fre_ber> Lots of files under tuxchess. 00:09 < coob> which. 00:09 < davidc__> fre_ber. you using windows? 00:09 < fre_ber> Hmm... May still be my fault, but I don't think so.. 00:09 < fre_ber> Cygwin, yes. 00:10 < davidc__> hmm. 00:10 < fre_ber> The thing is that it is _only_ the tuxchess files that are incorrect. 00:11 < fre_ber> That's why I don't think that it is my fault. 00:11 < fre_ber> ...this time. 00:11 < coob> which files 00:11 < coob> all of them? 00:12 < fre_ber> For example tuxchess/protos.h 00:12 < coob> hmm i am seeing a lot of '0d' 00:12 < fre_ber> But now I have romoved all of these changes from my diff manually.. :p 00:12 < coob> hm yep its \r 00:13 < fre_ber> Since I "fix" my newlines on all files, cvs says, and rightfully so, that the files are different.. :) 00:15 < fre_ber> But... hmm... It refused to include my new files in the diff... Wasn't that -N? 00:15 < courtc> yea, dunno why it doesn't work... 00:15 < fre_ber> Or do I have to list the new file names too? 00:16 < courtc> diff -u /dev/null newfile.c >> cow.diff 00:16 < courtc> after you patch.. 00:16 < fre_ber> k, thanks 00:17 < courtc> umm.. s/patch/cvs diff/ 00:17 < fre_ber> I know that.. ;) 00:17 -!- HohenheimX [~chatzilla@12-202-127-149.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 -!- HohenheimX [~chatzilla@12-202-127-149.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:18 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit ["02.17 = night"] 00:19 < fre_ber> Oh no, cygwin f*cks up... could not chdir to /dev: No such file or directory 00:19 < fre_ber> Grr 00:20 < CIA-11> coobert * tools/podzilla/tuxchess/ (9 files): newlines crlf -> lf 00:21 < courtc> touch emptyfile 00:21 < fre_ber> The thing one has to do.. :) 00:23 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:26 -!- ryang_ [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:26 < fre_ber> tuxchess/board.c still looks suspicious.. 00:27 < fre_ber> Or am I crazy? 00:27 < fre_ber> tuxchess/data.c too 00:27 < coob> eh 00:27 < coob> noway :/ 00:28 < fre_ber> :) 00:28 < coob> you won't notice anything yet 00:28 < coob> because anonymous cvs is 4hrs behind dev cvs 00:28 < fre_ber> Of, forgot that.. :( 00:29 -!- stuporgl1e [~stuporglu@c-67-164-196-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:30 < EvilDude> hmm anyone know why this causes errors =\ : struct it_tracknode 00:30 < EvilDude> { 00:30 < EvilDude> it_trackinfo * track; 00:30 < EvilDude> it_tracknode * left; 00:30 < EvilDude> it_tracknode * right; 00:30 < EvilDude> } typedef it_tracknode; 00:30 < EvilDude> it doesn't seem to like the it_tracknode * left; declaration 00:30 < davidc__> you haven't define it tracknode yet... 00:31 < EvilDude> yeah but how can I define it if the definition has that 00:31 -!- stuporgl1e [~stuporglu@c-67-164-196-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:31 < EvilDude> or should i refer to it as struct it_tracknode for now 00:31 < davidc__> do: 00:31 < davidc__> struct it_tracknode; 00:31 < EvilDude> yep it works like that 00:31 < EvilDude> tyy 00:31 < coob> struct name and typedef name can't be the same 00:32 < EvilDude> ty* 00:32 < EvilDude> they cant :|? 00:32 < davidc__> coob - yea they can 00:32 < EvilDude> haha 00:32 < EvilDude> i'd be screwed or else 00:32 < coob> they can ? 00:32 < BleuLlama> typedef struct foo { 00:32 < BleuLlama> struct foo * next; 00:32 < BleuLlama> struct foo * prev; 00:32 < BleuLlama> } FOO; 00:32 < EvilDude> I always use them like they can and it works fine 00:32 < coob> then FOO blah 00:32 < fre_ber> Yes, that should work 00:32 < BleuLlama> like that 00:32 < coob> ah ok :/ 00:32 < EvilDude> I think it's because struct typename becomes "struct typename" and then changing that to typename doesn't conflict 00:32 < courtc> they can, but its bad practice imo.. 00:33 < EvilDude> yeah probably is =\ 00:34 < BleuLlama> you could always typedef struct foo { ..same contents.. } foo; 00:34 < EvilDude> yeah that would work too 00:35 < EvilDude> seems it still doesnt like me using just foo even if I do that, I'll just use struct it_tracknode* not that hard 00:37 < BleuLlama> inside the struct, you still need to explicitly say struct foo* val; 00:37 < EvilDude> yep 00:37 < BleuLlama> you should have learned that your first week of C 00:39 < EvilDude> I didn't learn C ;) 00:39 < EvilDude> Which should explain why my code is so bad :P 00:39 < davidc__> me neither. 00:39 -!- stuporglue [~stuporglu@c-67-164-196-151.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:40 < davidc__> I'm self taught 00:40 < courtc> what they have places where you can learn c? ;) 00:40 < BleuLlama> me too, but that's one of the first things i learned back in the day... chapter 4 or 5 from the K&R book. 00:40 < coob> book? :) 00:40 < EvilDude> haha 00:40 < BleuLlama> yeah. probably the best reference for C you'll find 00:41 < EvilDude> I just learn by playing around and net 00:41 < fre_ber> cvs got the better of me, I can't make it add my new files... At 2:40 am, I give up.. :( 00:44 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 00:46 < fre_ber> Noone tried my binary? 00:46 < fre_ber> :( 00:47 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 00:50 < EvilDude> what does it do? 00:51 < fre_ber> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1533 00:51 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0100.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:51 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0100.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:52 < EvilDude> hmm should be interesting seeing I dont know morse code :) 00:52 < fre_ber> Never too late to learn. ;) 00:52 < fre_ber> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code#Letters.2C_numbers.2C_punctuation.2C_prosigns 00:52 < fre_ber> The codes I used. 00:53 < fre_ber> (International, of course) 00:53 < fre_ber> And it requires/expects a very slow operator.. ;) 00:53 < EvilDude> haha cool 00:55 < courtc> I'll try it as soon as it has a dynamic speed... 00:55 < EvilDude> i cant hear it doing anything :| 00:55 < courtc> :) 00:55 < fre_ber> courtc: :) 00:55 < coob> does it use ipod_beep? 00:55 < coob> i have a 4g 00:55 < wendt> im compiling podzilla from cvs, and in step 3 of the jpeg library, i get the following error: libjpeg.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one 00:55 < wendt> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 00:55 < wendt> make: *** [cjpeg] Error 1 00:55 < fre_ber> Evil: No? Did you remember to hit play/pause to start input? 00:56 < coob> wendt: run rnalib 00:56 < coob> ranlib* 00:56 < fre_ber> coob: No, it uses a separate thread to push stuff to the piezo serial port. Won't work on 4g. 00:56 < EvilDude> forgot now it works 00:56 < coob> ok 00:56 < coob> your binary just fucked up my contrast too. 00:56 < wendt> coob: you mean just type in ranlib? 00:56 < coob> whats the sequence to get the contrast menu? 00:57 < BleuLlama> man ranlib 00:57 < coob> wendt no run the arm ranlib on the libjpeg 00:57 < EvilDude> hehe this is cool 00:57 < fre_ber> Did my binary mess up the contrast? Hmm... 00:57 < wendt> how do i do that? 00:57 < EvilDude> if only it was a bit faster 00:57 < coob> how far down in the settings menu is contrast 00:57 < fre_ber> Evil: It will, atr least be configurable. 00:57 < EvilDude> also wikipedia shows the dor on top and line on bottom yours does opposite which is a little confusing ;) 00:57 < EvilDude> ah cool 00:58 < fre_ber> Would be cool to make it automatically adjust the speed to the operator, somehow. 00:58 < coob> fre_ber: look at the rockbox metronome 00:58 < coob> that has bpm/tap detection 00:58 < fre_ber> Cool 00:59 < coob> fre_ber wth 00:59 < fre_ber> Evil: Yes, I use a dot where the wiki use a cdot. :) 00:59 < coob> all i have is a white screen 00:59 < coob> contrast wasn't the prob. 00:59 < fre_ber> Hmm... 00:59 < coob> you dont have some kind of hardware check in there that'd mess it up do you? 01:00 < fre_ber> Strange.. I don't have any hardware checks. 01:00 < fre_ber> If it fails to open the piezo device it just won't beep. 01:00 < courtc> maybe you need one? afk something's cooking 01:00 < EvilDude> fre_ber: it'd be cool if it put the dash when you've held it long enough so you know you can let go 01:00 < fre_ber> At least, that was the plan.. 01:01 < fre_ber> Evil: Yes, I thought of that too. Might fix that some day.. :) 01:01 < fre_ber> courtc: Maybe... 01:02 < fre_ber> I can't think of anything hw specific, except the piezo... 01:02 < fre_ber> And the podzilla was checked out yesterday. 01:04 < fre_ber> Of course, I could have messed the pthreads thing up badly, but since it works on 3g... 01:04 < wendt> in step 7 of microwindows, after typing make, i get this error:devimage.c:754: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory 01:04 < wendt> make[1]: *** [devimage.o] Error 1 01:04 < wendt> make: *** [subdir-engine] Error 2 01:05 < wendt> is this ok, or is something wrong? 01:05 < coob> ok mr.mini is clincally insane 01:05 < coob> ooo nice hands you musta been working out... ahem, very good videos! Very Happy 01:05 < fre_ber> :) 01:06 -!- Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 01:06 < fre_ber> wendt, it appears as if you forgot to set up the path to the jpeg library. 01:06 < wendt> whats that? 01:06 < wendt> do you mean PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH? 01:06 < fre_ber> It is used to decode jpeg images... 01:07 < fre_ber> No, in config iirc 01:07 < wendt> how do i do that? 01:07 < fre_ber> Emacs? 01:07 < BleuLlama> or vi 01:07 < BleuLlama> or textedit 01:07 < BleuLlama> etc. 01:07 < wendt> so how do i do it? 01:08 < fre_ber> Doesn't the wiki say that? I think it does. 01:08 < coob> edit the file config 01:08 < coob> and sure the LIBJPEG stuff points to where your libjpeg stuff is 01:08 < coob> and yeah, rtfw 01:08 < wendt> ive sone that 01:08 < wendt> done* 01:08 < BleuLlama> the wiki does say all of that, yes 01:09 < fre_ber> coob: Does it go to blank screen when you start podzilla or when you start morsetest? 01:09 < fre_ber> select* 01:11 < coob> start podzilla 01:11 < fre_ber> whoa... 01:11 < coob> changing contrast doesn't do a thing 01:11 < fre_ber> Because libpthreads is linked with it? 01:11 < fre_ber> The only thing I can think of.. 01:12 < coob> i don't know :/ 01:12 < BleuLlama> do pthreads work on ucl? 01:13 < fre_ber> Apparently.. :) 01:13 < BleuLlama> ok. heh 01:13 < fre_ber> At least og 3g. 01:13 < fre_ber> on* 01:14 < wendt> ok, the config file is pointing to: "/home/david/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod/libjpeg.a" which doesnt exist. there is no libjpeg.a, but there is libjpeg.doc. is that what it should point at? 01:15 < fre_ber> You have to compile libjpeg before compiling microwindows. 01:15 < coob> haha you didn't compile libjpeg? 01:15 * coob grabs cluestick 01:15 * coob slowly beats hand 01:16 < wendt> do you mean step 3 in jpeg library, where i type "make"? 01:16 < fre_ber> Probably... 01:17 < wendt> because when that didnt work right, i asked about it, and coob said, "wendt: run ranlib" i asked how to do that, he said "wendt no run the arm ranlib on the libjpeg" i asked how to do that, and no one replied, so i went on. 01:17 < wendt> and its in microwindows where i have my problem. 01:17 < fre_ber> make should do fine. 01:18 < fre_ber> The only tricky think is libitunesdb. That, I still haven't managed to compile. :( 01:18 < fre_ber> thing* 01:19 < wendt> i tried make again, and this time the stupid thing worked, so ill try microwindows again. 01:20 < fre_ber> The best thing about this morse code thing is that I'm going to have something cool to show my co-workers in Brussels on monday. ;) 01:20 < coob> lol 01:20 < wendt> now when i run make in microwindows, i get a different error. now i get devimage.c:754: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory 01:20 < wendt> make[1]: *** [devimage.o] Error 1 01:20 < wendt> make: *** [subdir-engine] Error 2 01:21 < fre_ber> Lack of keys is no limit for text input.. ;) 01:21 < fre_ber> wendt, that looks like the same error to me.. 01:21 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has joined #ipodlinux 01:21 < fre_ber> Are you sure that you give it the correct path? 01:21 < wendt> oh... then im still getting the same friggin error... 01:21 -!- ryang_ [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has joined #ipodlinux 01:22 < davidc__> you havent set the path properly to the jpeg folder 01:22 < wendt> no, i actually know im not giving it the correct path. i set it exactly how the wiki says to do it, which leads to a dead end. 01:22 < davidc__> well then you setup your filesystem wrong 01:23 < fre_ber> Well, you naturally have to adapt that to match the location on your system... 01:23 < davidc__> jsut find where ou untared the jpeg lib folder to 01:23 < fre_ber> or, what he said. 01:23 < davidc__> and then set the path to that 01:23 < coob> what are the too line sin the microwin config that describe the libjpeg stuff; paste them 01:23 < wendt> i untarred it to where the wiki said to untar it. 01:24 < wendt> its just that the file does not exist, but the folder its supposed to be in does. 01:24 < fre_ber> It is a lot better to make sure that you don't have to change any config files by making sure that you put the files were the default congigs expect them to be. 01:25 < wendt> i didnt move any files around, or put them anywhere strange, i just untarred the package, and i dont have a file that the wiki says i should have. 01:25 < davidc__> ok, in the jpeg lib folder, do you see a jpeglib.h? 01:25 < wendt> yes 01:25 < davidc__> where is that folder? 01:25 < davidc__> [full path] 01:26 < davidc__> and where is the podzilla folder [full path] 01:26 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:26 < wendt> ~/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod/jpeglib.h 01:26 < davidc__> and the podzilla folder is...... 01:27 < wendt> there is no podzilla folder 01:27 < davidc__> umm.... 01:27 < davidc__> what? 01:27 < wendt> which must be the problem 01:27 < davidc__> where is the podzilla source then? 01:27 < wendt> there is none. 01:27 < BleuLlama> what is the full path, not with the ~... 01:27 < davidc__> ok. what step is breaking...? 01:28 < davidc__> is it building microwindows? 01:28 < BleuLlama> type pwd 01:28 < davidc__> or building podzilla? 01:28 < wendt> step 7 is breaking. 01:28 < wendt> i went through the steps to get podzilla, and i dont have the source, although i told it to download it. 01:29 < fre_ber> In Cygwin, I had some problems with the paths in the microwindows config. I don't remember exactly what tyhe problem was, but giving absolute paths solved it. 01:29 < BleuLlama> okay, why are you trying to build this yourself, wendt? (just wondering) 01:29 < davidc__> Step 7 of what? 01:29 < davidc__> step 7 of microwindows? 01:29 < wendt> yes. 01:30 < fre_ber> rofl 01:30 < davidc__> ok, when you did step 6, what did you put in? 01:30 < fre_ber> This is better than tv. :) 01:30 < davidc__> aka, what are your INCJPEG and LIBJPEG lines? 01:31 < wendt> in step 6, i copied the weird text into the config file, and changed "YourUserName" to david, cause thats the user name 01:31 < wendt> my incjpeg line is /home/david/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod 01:31 < BleuLlama> you're building on linux then? 01:31 < davidc__> wendt: you are on mac os x right? 01:31 < fre_ber> Good, get the basics.. :) 01:31 < wendt> my libjpeg line is /home/david/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod/libjpeg.a 01:31 < wendt> im on mac 01:31 < davidc__> wendt: and could you cd to the jpeg folder, and type pwd. 01:31 < BleuLlama> type "pwd" 01:32 < BleuLlama> notice it says "/Users/david/..." and not "/home/david/..." 01:32 < davidc__> and give me the results. 01:32 -!- virtualball [~virtualba@AC9FDC10.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 < wendt> it gave me /Users/david/ipodlinux/libjpeg 01:32 < coob> cd .. 01:33 < davidc__> yes, and your INCJPEG line differes how? 01:33 < coob> mv libjpeg ipod 01:33 < coob> mkdir libjpeg 01:33 < coob> mv ipod libjpeg 01:33 < fre_ber> 1+2=4? 01:33 < wendt> it says "home" instead of users, and it has "ipod" at the end. 01:33 < fre_ber> Bingo, we have a winner! 01:33 < davidc__> yes... think about it..... 01:34 < wendt> ok then... 01:34 < davidc__> and do the same for LIBJPEG 01:34 < davidc__> make them both point to the folder where jpeglib is 01:34 < davidc__> *jpeglib.h 01:34 < wendt> should i get rid of "ipod" on the end, or just change home to users? 01:34 < davidc__> wendt - is jpeglib.h in libjpeg/ipod? 01:34 < davidc__> or is it just in libjpeg/? 01:35 < wendt> its in /ipod 01:35 < wendt> and that answers my questin 01:35 < davidc__> ok, so what makes sense? 01:35 < fre_ber> rofl 01:35 < davidc__> as INCJPEG is the path to the JPEG INCLUDES. 01:35 < davidc__> and .h is an INCLUDE. 01:36 < davidc__> LIBJPEG is the path to the jepg library, so that needs to point to libjpeg.a file. 01:36 < coob> wendt, why do you want to build podzilla yourself? are you going to write anything for it? 01:36 < fre_ber> He wants the latest cool stuff... Who doesn't? :) 01:36 < davidc__> fre_ber use a frickin nightly then! 01:36 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/builds/ 01:36 < fre_ber> :) 01:36 < davidc__> theres a reason I went to all that effort! 01:37 < wendt> ok, now i cd'd to ~/ipodlinux/libjpeg/ipod and it returned "Nothing to be done for `all'." 01:37 < davidc__> wendt. you're building microwindows. not libjpeg. 01:37 < davidc__> so you should be cd'ed to....... 01:37 < wendt> ok then. 01:37 < fre_ber> Yes, that was a good one actually, the nightly builds. 01:37 < BleuLlama> there. made a note on the page for people who can't think for themselves. 01:37 < fre_ber> rofl 01:38 < wendt> now its giving me "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." 01:38 < BleuLlama> i think that's good advice. 01:39 < wendt> no 01:39 < wendt> im not stopping. 01:39 < fre_ber> You are killing me... 01:39 < wendt> who, me? 01:39 < fre_ber> All of you. 01:39 < wendt> oh goody. 01:39 < davidc__> wendt: what folder are you in? 01:40 * fre_ber dies 01:40 < wendt> uhhh... ~/ipodlinux/microwindows 01:40 < davidc__> wendt: are you in the same folder as you are supposed to be in for microwindows? 01:40 < wendt> ya 01:40 < wendt> i think. 01:40 < davidc__> er, look at step 5 01:40 < wendt> no im not. 01:40 < davidc__> what does it have you cd to? 01:40 < davidc__> cd ipod/src/ perhaps? 01:40 < EvilDude> dont you need to cd to like ipod or ipod-x11 =\ 01:40 < wendt> yes. 01:40 < EvilDude> hahaha 01:40 < davidc__> you should therefore be in, ~ipodlinux/microwindows/ipod/src then, correct? 01:40 < wendt> yes. 01:41 < davidc__> so now go there, and retype make 01:41 < wendt> how do you do that thing where it says something like "fre_ber dies" or something? 01:41 < fre_ber> davidc has an incredible dynamic range... 01:41 < wendt> yes! it works! 01:41 < davidc__> the command is /part wendt 01:41 < davidc__> so if you wanted to say wendt jumps for joy 01:41 < BleuLlama> yeah /part dies 01:41 < fre_ber> rofl 01:42 < davidc__> the command is /part dances 01:42 < virtualball> I have a question if that is okay, if not ill leave 01:42 < davidc__> go ahead virtualball 01:42 < davidc__> fre_ber I was sick of the forums being filled with that thread. 01:43 < virtualball> ok, umm when you get linux on your ipod can you still boot up in the original firmwire? 01:43 < fre_ber> what thread? 01:43 < davidc__> yes. Read the fucking wiki. 01:43 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Ne0 01:43 < davidc__> fre_ber - the one of wendt asking for help 01:43 < fre_ber> Ah... 01:43 -!- Ne0 is now known as Vanquisher 01:45 < davidc__> anything else before I go? 01:45 < fre_ber> You have saved my evening. Great job. :) 01:45 < fre_ber> Thanks. 01:46 < davidc__> fre_ber what huh? 01:46 * davidc__ is confused 01:46 < fre_ber> Comedy hour. :) 01:46 < davidc__> ah, yes, 01:46 < fre_ber> Well, it's 3:46 am, so maybe I'm easy to amuse.. 01:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 01:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by davidc__ 01:47 < joecool> whohoooooo, no ops 01:47 * joecool parties 01:47 < fre_ber> And, wendt, take no offense. I'm just very tired. 01:48 < wendt> in step 2 of itunes library, when i type make, i get this: WARNING: `automake-1.7' is missing on your system. You should only need it if 01:48 < wendt> you modified `Makefile.am', `acinclude.m4' or `configure.ac'. 01:48 < wendt> You might want to install the `Automake' and `Perl' packages. 01:48 < wendt> Grab them from any GNU archive site. 01:48 < wendt> cd . && /bin/sh /Users/david/ipodlinux/libitunesdb/ipod/missing --run autoconf 01:48 < wendt> configure.ac:4: error: Autoconf version 2.59 or higher is required 01:48 < wendt> configure.ac:4: the top level 01:48 < wendt> autom4te: /usr/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 01:48 < wendt> make: *** [configure] Error 1 01:48 < EvilDude> dont even try libitunesdb 01:48 < EvilDude> kill it 01:48 < fre_ber> I agree. 01:48 < davidc__> wendt - thank you for filling the channel with crap. 01:48 < coob> wendt: i think you should give up :( 01:48 < EvilDude> haha 01:48 < coob> use a nightly. 01:48 < wendt> no! i must not give up! 01:49 < davidc__> wendt - run aclocal first 01:49 < fre_ber> If you manage to compile libitunesdb, let me know how. 01:49 < davidc__> fre_ber I've done it tons... whats so hard about it? 01:49 < fre_ber> Ask Cygwin. 01:49 < davidc__> ah, well, cygwin is horribly broken 01:49 < wendt> how do i run aclocal? 01:49 < davidc__> type aclocal perhaps? 01:49 < BleuLlama> wendt: "learn" 01:50 < EvilDude> I'm not sure it works on os x either 01:50 < BleuLlama> "figure things out" 01:50 < fre_ber> I think I got aclocal and configure to work after a long time, then all hell broke loose. 01:50 < EvilDude> hehe I feel proud, I made a pre_malloc function that works same as malloc but uses chunks preallocated and it works :D :D 01:50 < joecool> itunesdb is a BITCH to compile.. someone in here told me how once.. and i don't remember his nick, and i never saw him again 01:50 < EvilDude> (well more than the working the clearing which is even better) 01:50 < wendt> its still giving me the same crap 01:50 < wendt> after running aclocal 01:51 < joecool> it was likehe appeared JUST at the right time.. and now i have a cvs version of it 01:51 < joecool> like a one-in-a-million deal 01:51 < davidc__> wendt - edit the automake.ac, line 4 01:52 < davidc__> anyways, I gotta run 01:52 < BleuLlama> wendt: why are you trying to build this anyway? what are your intentions? 01:52 < davidc__> later. 01:52 < davidc__> he wants to irritate all of us 01:52 < wendt> wait! 01:52 < BleuLlama> later david 01:52 < wendt> wheres automake.ac? 01:52 < BleuLlama> yeah, i think i agree with you davidc 01:52 < davidc__> wendt I have to leave. I';m going to a concert. 01:52 < BleuLlama> i'm starting to think he's just a troll 01:52 < davidc__> bye bye now... run along and play with the other n00bs 01:53 < wendt> i hate you... 01:53 < davidc__> and I love you too. 01:53 < BleuLlama> obviously 01:53 < wendt> im not a n00b, im just stupid 01:53 < fre_ber> We all love eachother.. :) 01:53 < davidc__> n00b = stupid. Same thing ;) 01:53 < wendt> im just a really stupid idiot, not a n00b! 01:53 < davidc__> anyways, I must leave. Ciao! 01:53 < wendt> please, help me! 01:53 < fre_ber> Good night Davidc 01:53 < BleuLlama> wendt: why are you trying to build this anyway? what are your intentions? 01:53 < fre_ber> wendt: Download a pre compiled libitunesdb.a 01:54 < fre_ber> Just like the rest of us did, with few exceptions. 01:54 < coob> fre_ber: hes on os x. 01:54 < coob> it'll build 01:54 < fre_ber> So? 01:54 < coob> won't work tho :) 01:55 < wendt> ok, now that davidc__ is gone, maybe i can talk. i want to edit the menu.c file so that i can make my gui, which you can find in the forums, and this stupid piece of sh** wont work! 01:56 < BleuLlama> telling us our code is a 'stupid piece of shit' won't get you on our good side 01:56 < fre_ber> :) 01:56 < wendt> im talking about my intelligence, not your code. 01:57 < wendt> and it still isnt working, so i still need help 01:57 < coob> [02:53] wendt | im just a really stupid idiot, not a n00b! 01:57 < coob> same thing. 01:58 < wendt> whatever. now help me. 01:58 < BleuLlama> OH. YES, SIR! 01:58 < fre_ber> Oh, Coob, I forgot to test the AAC stuff... Will have to wait until tomorrow.. I'm not sure that I have any clean aac files though... 01:58 < coob> how about you show some fucking respect. 01:58 < wendt> ok. 01:58 < wendt> i will. 01:58 < coob> fre_ber: there's on pointed to on the forum post. 01:58 < BleuLlama> fre: i have a few .m4a files if you want them, fre. 01:58 < coob> m4a won't work 01:59 < coob> i'm wokring on that now 01:59 < coob> working* 01:59 < BleuLlama> oh. nm 01:59 < coob> needs to be adts aac 01:59 < fre_ber> I have many m4as, but not stripped aac 01:59 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 01:59 < coob> woo! 01:59 < fre_ber> I just noticed the link in the thread, but I'm too tired to do anything serious now. 02:00 < coob> k 02:03 < fre_ber> In fact, I will go to bed now. Good night children. :) 02:03 < coob> night 02:03 < piratePenguin> g'd nite 02:04 < courtc> good night! 02:04 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 02:11 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:27 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 02:35 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vanquisher|ET 02:36 -!- Vanquisher|ET is now known as vanquisher 02:36 -!- vanquisher is now known as Van 02:36 -!- LostWarrior [Skeletor@ip70-176-102-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:37 < LostWarrior> Hey does anyone in here know about PS2 Mods?? 02:37 -!- Van is now known as Vanquisher 02:37 < LostWarrior> ???anyone??? 02:37 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vanquisher|ET 02:38 < LostWarrior> im looking for a mod similar to the Project Mayhem 02:38 < courtc> LostWarrior- you must be lost.. 02:38 < BleuLlama> try #ps2mods 02:38 < LostWarrior> no i know that channel doesnt exist and i know where i am 02:39 < LostWarrior> you guys work on the iPod for Linux 02:39 < BleuLlama> no 02:39 < BleuLlama> linux for iPod 02:39 < joecool> rofl 02:39 < LostWarrior> yea thats wat i meant srry 02:39 < courtc> ok, so you are way off-topic here 02:39 < LostWarrior> neway im askin cause the Project Mayhem is very similar to what u guys are doing 02:40 < LostWarrior> Linux on Xbox 02:40 < LostWarrior> just was wonderin if this was possible for the PS2 02:40 < joecool> thats really off-topic 02:40 < joecool> it is 02:40 < LostWarrior> but if u cant help nm its ok 02:40 < joecool> or rather was 02:40 < LostWarrior> oh it is?? 02:40 < joecool> LostWarrior: #ps2linux is still around.. but i mean, that project is pretty much abandoned 02:40 < BleuLlama> yes 02:40 < courtc> not really on-topic yet.. the xbox is an x86 platform.. 02:41 < LostWarrior> oh 02:41 < joecool> ps2 is a mips platform 02:41 < joecool> i think there was a 2.2.x kernel for ps2 that was the main one 02:41 < courtc> yep.. still not even the right arch.. 02:41 < joecool> and there was a 2.4.x one.. i THINK 02:42 < joecool> but anyways.. its been abandoned.. they don't sell the linux kit for ps2 anymore.. so theres really noone who wants to work on it 02:42 < LostWarrior> oh alright thx 02:42 < joecool> i'll be interested to see if the PSP rekindles the whole project again.. since that is also a mips.. 02:42 < joecool> with more power then the ps2 02:43 < courtc> armnommu uclinux.. 02:43 < joecool> courtc: not on the PSP.. thats still mips 02:43 < joecool> oh.. ok back on topic 02:44 < joecool> wait.. i'm more annoying when i'm on topic though.. because i start complaining.. "when's the next commit" 02:44 < Vanquisher|ET> next month = psp time 02:44 < joecool> that sorta thing 02:44 -!- Vanquisher|ET is now known as Vanquisher 02:44 < courtc> joecool- one day.. I swear.. strangling is in order 02:44 < joecool> for vanquisher 02:44 * joecool strangles Vanquisher 02:46 < joecool> i win!! 02:46 < joecool> fortune cookie! 02:47 < Vanquisher> joecool, hmm et runs sick on the savage under linux lol 02:47 * courtc sets mode +q joecool!*@* 02:47 < Vanquisher> joecool, better than winblows 02:47 < Vanquisher> courtc, haha 03:00 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 03:05 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 03:10 < ryang_> Is there a tutorial somewhere for making microwindows fonts? 03:11 < courtc> umm.. me, I'm a tutorial.. 03:11 < coob> lol 03:11 < courtc> use pcf 03:11 < coob> find something for making bdf fonts 03:11 < coob> or pcf. 03:11 < courtc> or convert bdf to .fnt with the convbdf tool in the microwindows source (use -f) 03:12 < ryang_> Have a link for pcf? >1million Google results 03:12 < courtc> pcf is just a format for a bitmap font.. 03:12 < courtc> same with bdf 03:13 < JonasNZ> !seen leachbj 03:13 < courtc> if you literally wnat to _create_ a font you'll need some sort of tool I guess 03:15 < coob> http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/editors.html 03:15 < BleuLlama> bdfedit looks pretty good 03:16 < coob> yeah 03:16 < coob> http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/images/fonts/cursive-samp.gif 03:16 < coob> i want that on my ipod! 03:16 < BleuLlama> i made some fonts on my amiga using FED, then wrote a converter to create BDF fonts from those. 03:16 < courtc> thats one of those that requires a perl script isn't it? 03:17 < coob> if anyone cares, i should have a m4a reading podzilla in an hour or so :) 03:18 < courtc> umm yay.. I guess 03:18 < courtc> I'd be thrilled if i had any m4as, or sound support... 03:18 < EvilDude> coob: cool 03:18 < EvilDude> courtc: hehe I have both 03:19 < courtc> rub it in why don't you? 03:20 < EvilDude> ;) 03:23 < coob> maybe even m4p too :) 03:24 < EvilDude> how do you plan to do that :P? 03:24 < coob> :) muah 03:24 < coob> i actually neeed to buy something from the itms first lol 03:25 < EvilDude> haha I dont have any m4p's either =\ 03:25 < EvilDude> but I'm in Australia so I have a reason 03:25 < coob> yeah i need to get an account 03:25 < coob> but 03:26 < coob> the mp4 lib i'm using, has drms removal built in :) 03:26 < coob> might be too slow tho 03:26 < EvilDude> ah ok 03:26 < EvilDude> pretty cool :) 03:26 < EvilDude> should get lots of people to stop bitching if it works 03:26 < EvilDude> and iTMS = 128 isnt it? 03:26 < coob> yeah 03:27 < EvilDude> so DRM removal doesnt have to be too fast :) 03:27 < BleuLlama> yeah. itms is 128k AAC (m4p 03:27 < BleuLlama> i've got lots of M4a, m4b and m4p files 03:28 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit ["Quit"] 03:29 < EvilDude> Time for me to learn binary trees. fun. 03:29 < ryang_> http://fondu.sourceforge.net/ Sounds like it could be useful to people interested in converting fonts. 03:41 < ryang_> Hm, I do ./convfnt32 ~/Verdana-12.bdf and it crashes :-\ 03:41 < courtc> -f 03:42 < ryang_> Ah, sweet, thanks. 03:44 < ryang_> I want the .c file it exports, right? 03:46 -!- Luke [~Luke@class241.cc.purdue.edu] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 03:46 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0100.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:49 -!- virtualball [~virtualba@AC9FDC10.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:54 -!- LostWarrior [Skeletor@ip70-176-102-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:55 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup376.ts002.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:56 < ryang_> Ok, now I've got my new converted font. Is there a way to replace the default one that Podzilla uses? 03:56 < coob> find where there current one's compiled into microwin i guess. 03:58 < courtc> that or just load one instead of useing the default 04:01 -!- ryang_ [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:02 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:13 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has joined #ipodlinux 04:16 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:19 -!- JonasNZ_ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 04:20 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:20 -!- JonasNZ_ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit [Client Quit] 04:23 < EvilDude> courtc: your menu has sort right? 04:24 < courtc> yea, it has it, but nothing uses it.. 04:24 < EvilDude> How efficient would it be 04:24 < courtc> very 04:24 < EvilDude> like would it be better for me to add sorted list or just put a list in and sort using yours 04:24 < EvilDude> hmm interesting... :D 04:25 < EvilDude> what sort do you use? 04:25 < EvilDude> or do you just use binary trees? 04:25 < courtc> iirc it uses a median of three quicksort 04:26 < EvilDude> ah 04:26 < EvilDude> hmm I'm gonna have to try it 04:27 < courtc> currently it only works on dynamic menus.. static menus you should be able to sort yourself ;) 04:27 -!- ryang [~ryang@67.138.209.103] has joined #ipodlinux 04:27 < EvilDude> haha yeah it's a dynamic menu don't worry 04:27 < ryang> coob, courtc: I've been looking around and I don't see anywhere obvious to set the default, do you have any idea? Sorry to bother... 04:27 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Vanquisher|Away 04:32 < EvilDude> how the hell did jens manage to make his itunesdb parser so fast =\ 04:33 < courtc> btrees i guess.. dunno, mine was damn slow.. 04:33 < EvilDude> yeah I tried btree's but mine stil takes > 1s his is dont within a second! 04:34 < EvilDude> his code is so fast yet so annoying to use or modify :( 04:34 < courtc> yep.. can't have the best of all worlds :/ 04:34 < coob> its the ipl way :) 04:35 < EvilDude> haha 04:35 < EvilDude> hmm takes < 1s on computer yet on iPod takes like 20 seconds 04:35 < EvilDude> damn the iPod is slow 04:36 < coob> are you loading the file into memeory first 04:36 < coob> or reading it from the hd 04:40 < EvilDude> No i'm talking about jens one 04:40 < EvilDude> loads into memory his one I'm pretty sure 04:41 < courtc> EvilDude- his? takes about 2s on my ipods 04:43 < EvilDude> really? Mine takes a bit, like 10 to 20 seconds 04:43 < EvilDude> How many songs have you got courtc? 04:43 < courtc> 7xx on my 1g 04:44 < coob> mp4 file format is qactually quite like the itunesdb heh 04:44 < EvilDude> I have ~3500 songs so yeah 04:44 < EvilDude> and yet that's still loaded in <1s on desktop 04:44 < Hostile> I have 1700 04:46 < coob> i have infinity+1 04:46 < coob> i have infinity^infinity 04:47 < courtc> ryang- join .flood 04:47 < ryang> Hm? 04:48 < courtc> #ipodlinux.flood.. join it 05:06 < EvilDude> did cvs just go down 05:09 < EvilDude> nm online sourceforge works at least 05:09 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 05:12 < EvilDude> hmm courtc: a menu needs to be destroyed on window close right? 05:13 < courtc> yea.. before the window is detroyed 05:14 < EvilDude> yeah thought so, well the current iTunesMenu doesn't do that :( =\ 05:14 < EvilDude> I think I forgot that 05:15 < courtc> well if the 'pz_window' is detroyed the menu won't hurt anything, but its a memory leak 05:17 < EvilDude> yeah 05:26 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11100#11100 :o 05:27 < courtc> dwelch is alive! 05:27 < coob> he's back! 05:27 < coob> (who's he!?!) 05:27 < coob> obviously someone who knows something :) 05:27 < macpod> inded 05:28 < courtc> haha.. yea, hes the one who didi alot of gcc testing for ogg, libmad and such.. he also runs _ipodstats 05:31 < coob> ah he's dpalffy? 05:31 < courtc> dammit.. I'm tired and a moron.. 05:31 < courtc> ignore all i say 05:32 -!- bonzi [~chatzilla@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]"] 05:32 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/search.php?search_author=dwelch 05:32 < courtc> thats who he is 05:33 < courtc> there ar too many 'd's around here 05:33 < macpod> like d's nutz 05:34 < courtc> ^-- wrong 05:34 < macpod> damn that was uncalled for 05:34 < courtc> wha? 05:35 < macpod> n/m 05:35 < coob> haha 05:35 < coob> i need sleep so bad 05:35 < coob> but i can't until this works 05:37 < courtc> ryang- "~/Verdana-12.bdf" wait, you want Verdana on your ipod? you have problems sir 05:37 < ryang> Well I was converting a bunch of them, seeing which looked nice 05:37 < ryang> Is it monospaced only? 05:37 < coob> no 05:37 < coob> but verdana!!? 05:37 < ryang> It's a nice font :-\ Especially size 8/10 05:38 < ryang> (or 2/5ths, if you will) 05:39 * courtc thinks in pixels 05:40 < courtc> wait.. that was a joke, wasn't it? heh 05:40 < ryang> pcf_createfont: Courier.fnt,12 not found 05:40 < ryang> A weak one, it's almost 2 AM 05:41 < ryang> What does podzilla use as root? 05:41 < ryang> Or, where does the search start when run in X11, rather 05:41 < courtc> pwd 05:41 < courtc> 12 is the font size btw... 05:41 < ryang> So the podzilla folder? 05:42 < courtc> indeed.. 05:42 < courtc> if you execute it form that folder 05:42 < ryang> Right... so it should see the Courier.fnt file, yes? 05:43 < ryang> Then it says Bad .PCF file 05:43 < ryang> Got 2f 2a 20 47 and I expected 70 63 66 00 05:46 < ryang> Although, it doesn't say that it failed loading font, as you put in the GrCreateFont test, interesting 05:46 < davidc__> ok, I'm back 05:47 < davidc__> wid that little wendt fuck bugger off? 05:47 < davidc__> *did 05:48 * davidc__ prods chat.... 05:49 < courtc> ryang- yea, that error (font == 0) happens rarely on weird files, its not for every failed load.. 05:50 < courtc> davidc__- shortly after coob said : "how about you show some fucking respect." 05:50 < davidc__> hahhahhahahahhhahahhahaa 05:51 < davidc__> heh, its just barely still in my scrollback buffer 05:51 < davidc__> I missed most of it before... 05:51 < davidc__> any highlights? 05:52 < ryang> courtc: Is this expecting the outputted .c file or me to compile? (gcc -o Chicago.fnt Chicago.c spews more than a few errors...) 05:52 < courtc> nah, coob broke some more stuff... 05:52 < courtc> fixed.. i mean fixed 05:52 < davidc__> haha... 05:52 < davidc__> he's such a fucking irritating litte twit... 05:52 < davidc__> thinks he knows it all 05:53 < coob> me? feeling the love here! 05:53 < davidc__> nononono..... wendt! 05:53 < davidc__> we love you coob. 05:53 < davidc__> you kick ass. 05:53 < coob> oh :D 05:54 < ryang> courtc: It might help if I stuck with one font, but none of them are working :) 05:54 < coob> aacbuf = audiobuf + audiobufpos; 05:54 < coob> printf("z 0x%x 0x%x | ", &audiobuf + audiobufpos, &aacbuf); 05:54 < coob> they should print out the same refs right? 05:54 < courtc> ryang- I have no clue what you are trying to do.. 05:54 < coob> oh wait 05:54 < coob> i'm retarded :) 05:56 < davidc__> er, no they wont 05:56 < davidc__> theres an & 05:56 < davidc__> oh.. I assume thats what you were talkin about. 05:56 < courtc> ryang- compile microwindows/ipod/src/fonts/convbdf.c.. then use that on a bdf like so: './convbdf -f file.bdf', then take file.fnt and put it in the pz dir 05:57 < coob> davidc i'm getting odd results 05:58 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- joecool|sleep [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- tittof [tittof@agewar.de] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- Vanquisher|Away [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-42.tbaytel.net] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-33-162-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- Friskaddict [Dyon@flits101-152.flits.rug.nl] has quit [orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 05:58 -!- Friskaddict [Dyon@flits101-152.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 05:59 < davidc__> coob, I asuume they're not being equal right? 05:59 < ryang> courtc: Ah, thanks, that looks better. I was using the convbdf.pl Perl script and it just output a C file. 05:59 < macpod> it's too late david, he's gone :/ 05:59 < davidc__> wtf... I didn't see that 06:00 < davidc__> eh, he'll be bakc 06:00 < davidc__> just a netsplit 06:00 -!- Vanquisher|Away [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- joecool|sleep [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- tittof [tittof@agewar.de] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-42.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:00 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-33-162-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:01 < davidc__> welcome back people. 06:01 < davidc__> anyways coob, the problem is your comparing the address of aacdec 06:01 < davidc__> with the address of audiobuf + a value 06:02 < davidc__> I'm not sure what you're trying to compare, but no, they shouldn't be equal 06:02 -!- Dr_Unvis1ble [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-42.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:03 -!- tittof_ [tittof@agewar.de] has joined #ipodlinux 06:03 * davidc__ prods coob 06:04 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 06:05 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:05 < davidc__> anyways coob, the problem is your comparing the address of aacdec 06:05 < ryang> courtc: Ah, thanks, that looks better. I was using the convbdf.pl Perl script and it just output a C file... Everything appears to be fine with a .fnt file I downloaded, but the ones I make seem to be corrupt, I'll look into that. Thanks for your help! 06:05 < davidc__> with the address of audiobuf + a value 06:05 < davidc__> I'm not sure what you're trying to compare, but no, they shouldn't be equal 06:06 < davidc__> hopefully you got it that time round coob 06:06 < coob> they should.. don't worry i've sorted it :D 06:06 < davidc__> alrighty 06:07 < coob> aacbuf = audiobuf + audiobufpos; 06:07 < coob> printf("z 0x%x 0x%x | ", audiobuf + audiobufpos, aacbuf); 06:07 < coob> should be the same 06:07 < coob> and are 06:07 < davidc__> yeah, that looks right 06:07 < coob> so it's all good! 06:07 < davidc__> you had a bunch of &'s in there before 06:07 < coob> yeah 06:07 < coob> silly me. 06:07 < davidc__> which was confusing me 06:14 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-33-162-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:14 -!- joecool_ [~joecool@nj-65-41-245-230.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:15 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:15 < macpod> for GrText if you pass -1 as the length does it just read until it encounters a null? 06:16 < courtc_> yea 06:16 < macpod> Thanks 06:16 < courtc_> np 06:16 < macpod> <3 06:16 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-33-162-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 06:16 -!- joecool|sleep [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:16 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 06:17 -!- tittof [tittof@agewar.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:19 < courtc> yea ryang, np.. 06:21 < ryang> Are the navigation controls defined in menu.c just for X11 or would changing them affect use on an actual iPod? 06:22 < coob> would affect the ipod 06:22 < ryang> I should be able to add an extra case: safely, right? 06:23 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-42.tbaytel.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:23 < coob> yeah 06:24 -!- Vanquisher|Away [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:24 < ryang> Good, thanks. Arrow keys are much more natural... 06:25 -!- Vanquisher|Away [~Van@208-58-242-161.s161.tnt2.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 < courtc> heh.. lemme see the patch for that one ;) an arrow key sends more than one keystroke.. 06:30 < ryang> Hm, seems to work on my end. Hold on... 06:50 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:53 < coob> who wants to tes this m4a support 06:54 < davidc__> yeah, I'm alive. 06:54 < coob> cool 06:55 < davidc__> does it work in x-windows? 06:55 < davidc__> and sure, I'll test. 06:55 < coob> uh 06:55 < davidc__> uh? 06:55 < coob> i've no linux box with x on it to test 06:55 < davidc__> ah. hmm 06:55 < coob> i test the decoder tho 06:55 < davidc__> so how have you been testing it? 06:55 < coob> before i syphon it into podzilla 06:55 < davidc__> just to pcm? 06:55 < coob> yeah 06:56 < davidc__> well, anyways, link me to a inary 06:56 < davidc__> you got an m4a for me? 06:56 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m 06:56 < coob> before i syphon it into podzilla4a sorry 06:56 < coob> jdhasjdkas 06:56 < coob> booc.coob.org/podzilla-m 06:56 < coob> fshddsjf 06:56 < davidc__> umm. huh? 06:56 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m4a 06:56 < coob> soryr lackofslepe kicking in 06:56 < davidc__> hehe ok 06:57 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/end.m4a 06:58 < davidc__> is it integrated with libitunesdb yet> 06:59 < coob> no 06:59 < davidc__> or do I just use the file browser? 06:59 < coob> file browser still 06:59 < courtc> davidc__- can you test a (possible) playback fix also? 06:59 < davidc__> fix for what huh? 07:00 < coob> that for the recording playback bug 07:00 < davidc__> I can't record. 07:00 < courtc> bah.. 07:00 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:00 < coob> any joy davidc? 07:01 < courtc> EvilDude- alive? 07:01 < davidc__> jas 07:01 < davidc__> coob - forgot to copy the m4a across 07:01 < EvilDude> yep I am 07:01 < coob> lol 07:01 < EvilDude> ooo m4a test :)? 07:01 < davidc__> no joy 07:01 < courtc> for the playback stuff, have you tried: 07:01 < coob> :/ 07:01 < davidc__> just blinks back to the main menu 07:01 < courtc> - while (rem) 07:01 < coob> where did it freeze? 07:02 < coob> no message window? 07:02 < courtc> + while (rem > 0) 07:02 < davidc__> it goes buffering 07:02 < davidc__> blinks black 07:02 < davidc__> goes to main menu 07:02 < davidc__> I bet podzilla is restarting tho 07:02 < davidc__> as the cursor gets seeked to Music 07:02 < davidc__> instead of sittin on file browser 07:03 < davidc__> although it does take time to buffer 07:03 < coob> ok so segfault, joy. 07:03 < courtc> eh? segfaults and other errors on the ipod seem to freeze it, niot restart.. strange 07:04 < davidc__> eh, depends 07:04 < davidc__> coob - do a log to a file on the hd 07:04 -!- wembley [~eric@143.44.120.251] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:04 < coob> i need sleep sorry 07:04 < coob> night 07:04 < davidc__> coob - post source 07:04 < davidc__> I'll debug 07:05 < davidc__> or not :) 07:05 < courtc> night coob.. 07:07 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/debugme.tar.gz watch it doesn't overwrite your podzilla dir, night 07:07 < coob> (probably only builds for the ipod) 07:07 < coob> night 07:07 < EvilDude> night coob 07:07 < davidc__> night 07:08 < courtc> EvilDude- answer me! 07:08 < courtc> ;) 07:08 < EvilDude> courtc: I thought I said I was alive! 07:08 < EvilDude> quote me "yep I am" :P 07:08 < EvilDude> OH 07:08 < EvilDude> you mean the otehr stuff 07:08 < EvilDude> I'll try that now 07:16 < EvilDude> 1 file worked with that 07:16 < EvilDude> trying the second now 07:16 < EvilDude> the other worked too 07:16 < EvilDude> I think that's all that's needed :S 07:16 < courtc> heh.. sweet 07:16 < EvilDude> but wait 07:17 < EvilDude> I'll check if they work with the while(rem) only 07:17 < EvilDude> I doubt they will 07:22 < ryang> Is there anything special you need to do to get the iPod Photo stuff running in X11? Or is it a color representation of black and white :) 07:23 < courtc> ryang- http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/config.ipod-photo_x11 07:23 < EvilDude> ok it didnt work 07:23 < EvilDude> as in the rem>0 isnt enough 07:24 < EvilDude> recording in 8khz is the one thats screwing on me too 07:24 < courtc> what happened? 07:25 < EvilDude> Just froze, but that could be coz I was running in virtual terminal 07:25 < EvilDude> eg podzilla 1 was crap podzilla podzilla 2 was the one with your fix, running on top of podzilla 1 07:25 < EvilDude> and it made a screeching noise and froze 07:25 < courtc> haha 07:26 < ryang> courtc: Works like a charm, thanks. 07:26 < EvilDude> I'll try a few things 07:26 < ryang> I take it the screwy color problems depicted in the Blog are no more? 07:26 < courtc> I never thought someone would actually find a use for the 'podzilla in a vt'... 07:26 < courtc> ryang- umm.. not really, we've got some new ones now.. 07:27 < EvilDude> courtc: even more interesting, the reading + freeze corrutped the file and windows wont copy it =/ 07:27 < courtc> that was probably the reboot.. 07:28 < EvilDude> yeah 07:28 < EvilDude> hmm I hate stupid bugs like this 07:28 < EvilDude> what can cause code to freeeze ipod yet work perfectly on desktop? 07:28 < EvilDude> my itunesdb parser wont work on iPod either :( 07:29 < courtc> you need to make sure everythink is word aligned 07:29 < ryang> I'm off, thanks again for your help courtc. I think I've played enough to get some more interesting things rolling... Good night all! 07:29 < EvilDude> so what do I do 07:29 < courtc> ryang- np, night 07:29 < EvilDude> all structures need to be evenly aligned right? 07:32 < courtc> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=281 07:36 < EvilDude> wow I have no idea what that means :P 07:40 < EvilDude> I'm gonna go for something simpler :) 07:41 < EvilDude> I'll try to find what's wrong with this evil audio playback thing 07:45 < courtc> this'll help: 4 bits: nybble(nibble); 5 bits: nickle; 10 bits: deckle; 16 bits: playte, half-word; 32 bits: dynner, gawble, word; 64 bits: double word 07:47 < EvilDude> rofl 07:48 < courtc> also: char: 1 byte; short: 2 bytes; Int, long, float: 4 bytes; double: 8 bytes; long double: 12 bytes; 07:49 < EvilDude> yeah I know that stuff :) 07:49 < EvilDude> My char + short's seem to be screwing it up 07:49 < courtc> soo.. understand now? 07:49 < EvilDude> yeah I get that 07:49 < EvilDude> hmm but 07:49 < EvilDude> my ipod's giving me "parameter incorrect" errors when i try to copy stuff to it 07:50 < courtc> yea, I can't help you there.. :/ 07:50 < EvilDude> hmm brb maybe a reboot will help 07:50 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 07:55 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 07:59 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 < EvilDude> iPod Restoring :( 08:02 < EvilDude> Great now iTunes doesn't want to recognise it 08:11 -!- Big_Luk [~lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Oops I'm gone"] 08:34 -!- Big_Luk [~lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 08:35 -!- Monty|Aus [johndow@61.68.4.211] has joined #ipodlinux 08:36 -!- Monty|Aus [johndow@61.68.4.211] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:52 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:12 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:24 -!- tx297 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had to restore today =\ 14:42 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD9532142.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:47 < coob> ok 14:47 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/end.m4a <-file browse to that when you cna 14:48 < EvilDude> oh crap 14:48 < EvilDude> this is exactly why i had to restore 14:48 < EvilDude> fkn installer is screwing with iPod 14:48 < EvilDude> I'm going back to the good old installer that works 14:49 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:53 -!- EvilDude9 [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 < EvilDude9> coob: can you give me m4a link again 14:55 < EvilDude9> the song only 15:00 < EvilDude9> ok phyntos has fucked the windows installer 1.3 i think 15:00 < EvilDude9> it used to work so well 15:00 < EvilDude9> 1.3 is just fucking with me i swear 15:01 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 15:06 -!- Sayle 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appartment leeching off someone's wireless 15:26 < Sayle> lol 15:26 < nunofgs> I'm switching ISPs at home so no internet there :/ 15:27 < nunofgs> hmmm that CVS diff might be a problem... the last time I got ipodlinux from CVS was a couple of months ago... then like 2 weeks ago I lost internet so I coded my game 15:31 < coob> cvs up -dP 15:31 < coob> i assume most of your stuff is in a new file 15:31 < coob> and you only changed menu.c and the makefile 15:31 < nunofgs> it's in 6 different files (.c and .h) in a directory called idopewars 15:31 < nunofgs> yeah 15:32 < nunofgs> yeah I just did the cvs update fine 15:32 < nunofgs> thanks 15:33 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:37 < nunofgs> hmmm it put stuff in the patch from menu.c that isnt supposed to be there 15:37 < nunofgs> like the recording sample rate options... and all the menu options and stuff 15:38 < coob> yes the menu stuff changed 15:38 < coob> rm Makefile menu.c 15:38 < coob> then run cvs up again 15:38 < coob> then edit the files again 15:39 < joecool> whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 15:39 * joecool is happy now 15:39 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)"] 15:40 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 15:41 < joecool> heh 15:41 < nunofgs> coob: alright... the patch looks ok now. Thanks for your help. Going to submit it right now 15:42 < nunofgs> joecool: didn't know you guys wanted a dopewars-clone so much :P 15:43 < joecool> haha 15:46 < nunofgs> patch sent 15:47 < nunofgs> OMG ... forgot to attach the patch... *bangs head in wall* 15:47 < nunofgs> wait.. make that *car door* 15:51 < nunofgs> alright guys... its getting too hot inside this car. Going home. Thanks for the help. 15:51 < nunofgs> I hope you like my game 15:52 -!- nunofgs [~nunofgs@a83-132-66-143.netcabo.pt] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 16:08 -!- nu [nusse@zapp.nusse.eu.org] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 < nu> good morning 16:10 < nu> still no new blog entries, what about development on these unsupported devices? 16:10 < BleuLlama> nothing new. otherwise there would be a blog entry 16:13 < coob> BleuLlama: wanna test this? 16:13 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m4a 16:13 < coob> browse to an m4a from the file browser (no itunesdb support yet) 16:13 < BleuLlama> dl'ing 16:14 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 < coob> although that shouldn't be too hard 16:15 < BleuLlama> restarting... 16:16 < BleuLlama> starting over. (forgot to chmod. oops) 16:17 < BleuLlama> um. 16:18 < BleuLlama> the filebrowser isn't working 16:19 < BleuLlama> and unfortunately, i have to go afk now. :( 16:19 < coob> how isn't it working? 16:19 < BleuLlama> it shows no entries. topmost entry is inverted. the only button that does anything is [menu] 16:19 < coob> wtf :/ 16:20 < BleuLlama> lemme try something quick. 16:21 < coob> file browser is fine one mine, it just can't open the dsp 16:22 < BleuLlama> okay. got it. 16:23 < BleuLlama> select a file, it says something like coob rocks the aac, while "buffering" then it restarts back at the main podzilla menu 16:23 < BleuLlama> never plays anything 16:23 < coob> anusckaes 16:23 < coob> ok thanks. 16:24 < BleuLlama> back later 16:26 < coob> oh ass 16:26 < coob> i know what it is 16:29 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m4a-3 16:30 -!- xcheddargoldfish [~xcheddarg@pcp09703014pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:37 -!- ScoTTie [skotty@dialup-1-109.MelbournePwrtl2.dft.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:56 -!- ScoTTie_ [~scott@dialup-1-160.MelbournePwrtl1.dft.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 17:04 < coob> The iPod Division is looking for a Graphics Software Engineer to develop graphics and imaging frameworks for future iPod user interfaces. Duties include design and integration of graphics and imaging frameworks in an embedded RTOS environment. 17:04 * coob applies 17:15 < Daishi> leaving...bbiab 17:15 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 17:19 < coob> dcc fialed! 17:19 < coob> wrong window :/ 17:20 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-155-115-210.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:21 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:28 < macpod> hey bern 17:29 < leachbj> hey macpod 17:33 < fre_ber> coob? 17:33 < coob> hi 17:33 < fre_ber> hi 17:34 < fre_ber> I am having problems with your aac podzilla.. :( 17:34 < fre_ber> It appears to lock up while buffering... 17:35 < coob> yeha 17:35 < coob> the one from the forum 17:35 < coob> or the one i just pointed to 17:35 < fre_ber> Hmm.. Define "just".. ;) 17:35 < coob> the m4a one? 17:36 < fre_ber> Yes, posted in here a while ago. 17:36 < fre_ber> Several hours.. 17:36 < coob> yeah 17:36 < coob> yep that's not working :/ 17:36 < fre_ber> Ok.. :) 17:41 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEAF20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:41 -!- Pseudogod [~Pseudogod@ppp-68-252-170-207.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 * BleuLlama sits on his porch, using his laptop. :D 17:55 -!- Pseudogod [~Pseudogod@ppp-68-252-170-207.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:56 * fre_ber is building a basic widget set for podzilla... 17:57 < fre_ber> (Without consulting with anybody) 17:57 < macpod> I've got a number input widget if you want 17:57 < fre_ber> Do you have an integer input thingy? 17:57 < macpod> yea 17:57 < fre_ber> How does it look/work? 17:57 < BleuLlama> how about a digit input thingy? 17:57 < BleuLlama> ;) 17:57 < macpod> well, an integer display widget 17:57 < fre_ber> :) 17:58 < fre_ber> I meant, is it used in cvs podzilla? 17:58 < macpod> you can call methods like "increment number" decrement number 17:58 < macpod> then draw 17:58 < BleuLlama> i'm thinking about making a game settings library. load/save/configure settings easily 17:58 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@host81-155-115-210.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Client exiting"] 17:58 < macpod> bleu how soon would you be making that 17:59 < macpod> I was just about to code a "high score" number reader/writer 17:59 < BleuLlama> some time between next month and two years from now 17:59 < macpod> mm 17:59 < BleuLlama> nice 17:59 < macpod> I'll make mine proprietary then :) 17:59 < fre_ber> I will make mine anyway, then we can all fight about whose widgets win. ;) 17:59 < BleuLlama> nah. just start making a game library 17:59 < BleuLlama> i'll add settings to that 17:59 < macpod> fre_ber: go for it 17:59 < fre_ber> :) 17:59 < macpod> I can explain my concept of a widget if you want 17:59 < BleuLlama> macpod: where would your high score things go? (what file?) 17:59 < BleuLlama> /etc/??? 17:59 < macpod> I'm going to put it in a seperate file in the home directory 18:00 < macpod> like all settings should be saved in 18:00 < fre_ber> I am thinking about basing it on Java Swing. But nothing even close to that complexity. 18:00 < macpod> I dont understand why some ppl write them to / 18:00 < BleuLlama> i thought settings were supposed to be in /etc? 18:00 < macpod> fre_ber you lost my support when you said java 18:00 < macpod> meh, I think home would be preferrable 18:00 < fre_ber> lol 18:01 < fre_ber> Be happy that I didn't sat .NET 18:01 < fre_ber> say* 18:01 < BleuLlama> fre: i'd personally go mroe towards allegro's gui structures than java's swing methods. 18:01 < fre_ber> Or is that work a autokickban? 18:01 < fre_ber> "allegro"? :) 18:01 < fre_ber> s/work/word 18:02 < ryang_> Is compiling with libjpeg supported? I get a few linker errors (_gzclose, _gzopen, _gzread undefined) 18:02 < BleuLlama> http://www.talula.demon.co.uk/allegro/ 18:03 < BleuLlama> their gui widgets were really easy to work with, and really easy to inherit/extend from 18:03 < BleuLlama> http://www.talula.demon.co.uk/allegro/onlinedocs/en/index035.html 18:03 < fre_ber> I will start small... 18:04 < BleuLlama> yep. 18:04 < BleuLlama> check out their structures though. it's a good starting point, imo. 18:04 < BleuLlama> when i made my own gui, it was vaguely based on that stuff 18:17 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:21 < coob> BleuLlama: around? 18:22 < BleuLlama> yo 18:22 < joecool> mmm.. tuxchess is a little weird 18:22 < joecool> bishop won't move 18:23 < BleuLlama> sub, coober? 18:23 < coob> ok i wrote some logging stuff to debug 18:23 < BleuLlama> good for you! 18:23 < BleuLlama> how does this affect me? 18:23 < BleuLlama> (effect?) 18:24 < coob> can you run it? 18:24 < BleuLlama> i can try 18:24 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m4a-4 18:24 < coob> will probably still freeze 18:24 < coob> but you should get a log at least 18:24 < BleuLlama> mmm. log 18:24 < BleuLlama> it's big, it's heavy, it's wood 18:25 < fre_ber> :) 18:25 < coob> in /aac.log 18:25 < fre_ber> aac? Is that a new kind of wood? 18:25 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:27 < BleuLlama> totally hung the ipod this time 18:27 < coob> woo! 18:27 < coob> whats int he log? 18:28 < BleuLlama> dunno. i don't know if it's okaty to reboot, did you fsync() often in the log? 18:28 < coob> fflush 18:28 < BleuLlama> er ya 18:29 < BleuLlama> i don't see a log file anywhere 18:29 < coob> :/ my 4g creates it 18:30 < BleuLlama> hmm. doesn't seem to be the right binary. lemme try again 18:30 < coob> wth 18:30 < coob> i get a load of binary data in the log lol 18:32 < BleuLlama> same. 18:32 < BleuLlama> no log file 18:32 -!- xcheddargoldfish [~xcheddarg@pcp09703014pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:34 < BleuLlama> yep. no log file 18:34 < coob> ok :/ 18:36 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 -!- grml [~mgla@pD9EEA65B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:37 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:38 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:40 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 -!- grml [~mgla@pD9EEA65B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 18:44 < ryang_> Hmm, I'm having trouble compiling jpeg support... I get a bunch of linker errors whenever I try. 18:47 < fre_ber> We went over that for the twentyeleventh time with someone else last night. I doubt if anyone is up for a repeat of that so soon... 18:47 < fre_ber> All I can say is follow the wiki instructions carefully, but don't forget to think at each step. 18:52 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:53 < fre_ber> Anyone up for another C-problem instead? 19:00 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:00 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 19:01 < BleuLlama> perhaps, fre. i'm 1/2 here 19:04 < fre_ber> Sorry, let's take that another time.. I am off for some tv.. :) 19:05 < BleuLlama> ok 19:18 < Hostile> in the apple firmware...how do I add something to a day in the calendar? 19:21 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit ["leaving"] 19:23 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 19:26 < BleuLlama> Hostile: do it in iCal and sync your machine with your ipod using iSync 19:26 < Hostile> BleuLlama, I dont have a mac 19:26 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:27 < BleuLlama> dunno then. probably some windows app to do it... 19:27 < Hostile> lol even better 19:27 < Hostile> I use linux 19:27 < Hostile> haha 19:28 < BleuLlama> oh. okay. well, you didn't say. 19:28 < BleuLlama> export an .ics file from your calendaring program, and drop it into the right directory on the ipod. 19:28 < BleuLlama> i don't rememebr the dir name off the top of my head 19:28 < Hostile> hmm let me see 19:29 < BleuLlama> if there were only some sort of search engine you could use on an internet like thing. 19:29 < Hostile> BleuLlama, what calendar program should I use? 19:29 < BleuLlama> how should i know 19:30 < BleuLlama> i don't use linux. 19:30 < BleuLlama> use whatever one you're comfortable with 19:30 < Hostile> ahh ok 19:30 < Hostile> maybe try mozilla-sunbird 19:30 < BleuLlama> if you have a palm pilot (you didn't say) i belive its sync program can export ics 19:30 < Hostile> nope 19:41 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:48 < tanq> heh.. 14:32 < BleuLlama> if there were only some sort of search engine you could use on an internet like thing. 19:49 < Hostile> BleuLlama, I put the ics in the Calendars folder 19:49 < Hostile> but how do I make it use? 19:49 < Hostile> it 19:51 < BleuLlama> um. just select 'calendars' from the extras menu of your ipod. 19:51 < Hostile> yeah and it doesnt show my custom one 19:52 < BleuLlama> then you're doing something wrong 19:52 < Hostile> does it have to be named something special? 19:52 < BleuLlama> bad calendar file or something. 19:52 < BleuLlama> jfgi 19:52 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 < Hostile> BleuLlama, aight I got it to work 20:11 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 -!- elektrolott [~Lothar@wbar3.sjo1-4-11-009-058.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:18 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:25 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 20:26 -!- Vanquisher|Away is now known as Vanquisher 20:26 -!- elektrolott [~Lothar@wbar3.sjo1-4-11-009-058.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 20:34 -!- mgla__ [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:54 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #iPodLinux 20:55 -!- wendt [~wendt@ip68-225-194-179.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #iPodLinux [] 21:03 < davidc__> hey bern... 21:05 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:14 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:24 < hyarion> hum... what is your opinion about podzilla and c++? 21:24 < courtc> heh, depends on who you're talking to.. 21:27 < hyarion> the one with most power? :P 21:27 < courtc> so, bern... well he likes podzilla, and c++ is another tool :0 21:29 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-004-035.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:41 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-094-095.woh.rr.com] has quit ["Gluon IRC, praise it like a shoe !"] 21:48 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-004-035.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 21:49 -!- Zyrill [~zyrill@dsl-084-058-004-035.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < fre_ber> Got to sleep. In four hours I have to go to the airport. Later dudes. 22:03 < davidc__> later 22:03 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 22:12 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:23 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 < EvilDude> coob: sorry about yesterday, my iPod STILL doesnt have iPL =/ 22:31 < coob> no worries 22:31 < coob> i'm just trying to figure whats up with it 22:31 < coob> i'm going back to my cli decoder 22:32 < coob> going to recfactor that a bit 22:33 < EvilDude> ah ok, so it didnt work :( ? 22:33 < coob> nope 22:34 < EvilDude> hmm damn 22:40 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:45 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-220.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:50 -!- hyarion [~hyarion@lgh012a.umehus7.ac.se] has quit ["no time for fun..."] 23:03 -!- nunofgs [~nunofgs@a83-132-66-143.netcabo.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 23:04 < nunofgs> hello all again 23:05 < coob> hi 23:05 < nunofgs> was wondering if anyone could do me a favor. I need a compiled podzilla with the game I coded that I was talking about earlier (idopewars). im on mac os x and im having trouble compiling it to test on an ipod (mine is 4g but I have a friend with 3g) 23:05 < coob> whats the problem 23:06 < nunofgs> need someone to compile me a podzilla 23:06 < nunofgs> with my patch 23:06 < coob> hold on 23:06 < coob> sorry can't right now my podzilla dir is a mess heh 23:06 < coob> working on m4a support :/ 23:07 < nunofgs> when you compile with make IPOD=1, you can't still run the executable in x11 can you? 23:07 < coob> of course not, since it compiles it for amr 23:07 < coob> arm* 23:08 < nunofgs> yeah, makes sense. Cause it gave me errors before, but now its compiling fine... but I can still run it. something's wrong :/ 23:10 < coob> nice one though, dopewars for the ipod sounds like fun! 23:10 < coob> actually, you could probably have made use of the new menu system in it 23:10 < coob> can you save games and such? 23:12 < nunofgs> yeah I know. I saw the new menu system today. Really nice (I mentioned it in my email to the patches list). I might use it. 23:12 < coob> there's some cool dynamic menu stuff. 23:12 < nunofgs> no, not atm. But I could add support for that if people want to 23:13 < nunofgs> I was also looking at how to make a string bold. Would be nice to display when you're going to make a positive sale on a specific drug. But the font support isn't done atm 23:14 < coob> yeah :/ you can draw the text again with a 1px offset to the right for a bold effect though. 23:15 < nunofgs> oh... is that how they're doing it on calendar.c ? they used a GrBitmap or whatever 23:15 < nunofgs> passed it like 20 hex values just to print 3 letters. Can't quite figure out how that works 23:15 < coob> no calendar.c is dirty 23:15 < coob> it uses bitmaps 23:16 < nunofgs> yeah, I think I'll try that 1px offset though. Thanks for the tip 23:16 < coob> as there's no font support yet, it is coming though :) 23:16 < nunofgs> I'm not sure if I should use the new menu system tho. It would force me to recode quite a bit of the game. Only 2 screens would take advantage anyway 23:17 < nunofgs> dunno. if people want that shiny arrow effect I'll code it :) 23:17 < coob> lol 23:17 < nunofgs> so anyway, I really wanted to try it on the ipod. Anyone got a few minutes to grab the patch and compile it? 23:18 < coob> sorry i really gotta get this working :/ 23:18 < nunofgs> np 23:25 < EvilDude> hey nunofgs: what do you need? 23:26 < EvilDude> just the patch compiled for iPod? 23:26 < tanq> sooo 23:27 < nunofgs> EvilDude: yes 23:27 < tanq> which application are you guys talking about when you reference the new menu systme 23:28 < tanq> s/systme/system 23:28 < EvilDude> the new menu in podzilla 23:28 < tanq> man wwf is gay 23:28 < tanq> i need to change the channel 23:29 < nunofgs> EvilDude: whoa... nevermind that 23:29 < nunofgs> managed to compile it 23:29 < nunofgs> twas my microwindows configuration :/ (I feel so dumb) 23:31 < EvilDude> ah ok 23:31 < EvilDude> cool 23:31 < EvilDude> i'll compile for me to try anyway ;) 23:31 < nunofgs> let me know what you think :) 23:32 < nunofgs> it'll look much better with the drugs you can make money with in bold. I'll change that tomorrow maybe. Right now a + or - shows up next to the drug's name to indicate if you're going to lose or make money when you sell them 23:33 < nunofgs> also, I really shouldn't have used srand() and rand()... they're not that random :P 23:34 < nunofgs> well, I'm tired of sitting in this car. going home. drop me an email if you guys have any suggestion 23:34 < nunofgs> EvilDude: wait.. aren't you prashant? 23:34 < EvilDude> nunofgs: yes I am.. 23:35 < nunofgs> ah... im Uranus 23:35 < nunofgs> heh 23:35 < EvilDude> ohh hey 23:35 < nunofgs> I had you on my msn. we talked once about ipodlinux 23:35 < EvilDude> yep I remember :) 23:35 < EvilDude> been a long time ;) 23:35 < nunofgs> yeh 23:35 < nunofgs> been kinda busy at college 23:36 < nunofgs> anyway, im off for the night. See you guys later 23:36 < EvilDude> ok, night 23:36 -!- nunofgs [~nunofgs@a83-132-66-143.netcabo.pt] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 23:49 < coob> yoyoyo 23:49 < coob> evildude, you still about 23:51 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:52 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-m4a-pdgw <-- another m4a test for anyone who doesn't mind crashing their ipod :) 23:52 < EvilDude> that's me! :P 23:52 < coob> :D 23:52 < coob> browse to an m4a int he filebrowser, select. 23:53 < coob> + pray 23:53 < coob> i need to sign up tot he itms and download some songs 23:54 -!- Smeven [~steven@kaam0.misawa.attmil.ne.jp] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 < Smeven> hi 23:55 < EvilDude> ITS WORKING! :D 23:55 < coob> holt shit :) 23:55 < EvilDude> and even goes back to file browser without crashing when song ends!!! 23:55 < coob> holy* 23:55 < coob> wow cool, 23:55 < coob> i guess i finally rock. 23:55 < EvilDude> haha 23:55 < EvilDude> time to try a couple more :D 23:56 < coob> :D 23:56 < coob> volume works ok? 23:56 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-143-180.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < coob> ill try and get progress in there too 23:56 < EvilDude> i'll try now 23:56 < courtc> gj coob 23:56 < EvilDude> um coob 23:56 < Smeven> what you guys working on? 23:56 < EvilDude> im listening to an m4a tahts high bitrate 23:56 < EvilDude> and its fine 23:56 < coob> cool 23:56 < coob> how high 23:56 < coob> i never tested with higher than 128 23:56 < EvilDude> like 224 kbps bitrate :| 23:57 < coob> also i need to get your playlist stuff in there, i took that out 23:57 < EvilDude> like VERY fucking high 23:57 < coob> elite. 23:57 < coob> i guess i rock a little bit mroe then :) 23:57 < courtc> coob is my hero (for the daY) 23:57 < coob> lol 23:57 < EvilDude> yes you are the hero of the day coob :D 23:57 < coob> once again :D 23:58 < EvilDude> I dont get how the hell you're managing to make my iPod play 224kbps 23:58 < EvilDude> But I'm damn happy :D 23:58 * coob watches everyone convert their music to aac 23:58 < Smeven> i finally got my ipod flashed 23:58 < Smeven> it works like a champ 23:58 < coob> flashed? ipod linux doesn't touch the flash... 23:58 < Smeven> 50G of music (all legal) 23:58 < Smeven> of course 23:58 < coob> only touches the portion of the firmware thats on the hd. 23:59 < Smeven> coob: i use the ipod restore utility... 23:59 < Smeven> i reloaded the firmware 23:59 < EvilDude> coob: I quit a song using menu and now it wont play anymore :( 23:59 < Smeven> i will get around to loading linux on it sometime 23:59 < EvilDude> Time to restart and try again :D 23:59 < coob> hm ok. --- Log closed Mon Apr 11 00:00:01 2005