--- Log opened Tue Apr 05 00:00:02 2005 00:00 < Lt> ya ur right 00:00 < Lt> but it is cool 00:00 < davidc__> the thing they were talking about before was running boa on the ipod processor, and using ip/firewire to pc, and routing from pc to net 00:00 < Lt> hmm 00:00 < Lt> that would be really slow 00:01 < davidc__> yeah, and the second slashdot picked up on it the ipod would be a smouldering wreck 00:01 < Lt> for sure 00:01 < Lt> so 00:01 < EvilDude> cant be that bad if everything is cached eg page in RAAM :P 00:01 < Lt> you guys have any experience with ipod wizard 00:02 < EvilDude> still slow as though 00:02 < Lt> ......... 00:02 < EvilDude> Lt: yeah i've used 00:02 < EvilDude> RAM* 00:02 < Lt> can u give me a hand 00:02 < Lt> then? 00:02 < EvilDude> i'll try 00:03 < Lt> ok 00:03 < Lt> step one 00:03 < pacroon> davidc__: Damn, it does the same with the kernel I've build 00:03 < EvilDude> Lt you on windows? 00:03 < davidc__> pacroon: you musta f'ed up when doing the make_fw then 00:03 < davidc__> is it a winpod or a macpod? 00:03 < pacroon> awhat? 00:04 < davidc__> fat32 formatted? 00:04 < davidc__> or hfs formatted? 00:05 < pacroon> Well I've used it on windows machines so I guess that makes it fat32 00:05 < courtc> not to be a nazi, but please take ipod wizard talk to another chan/pms 00:05 < joecool> hmm.. is it a good thing to defag the ipod once in awile 00:05 < joecool> i would think it would help battery 00:05 < courtc> de.. frag? 00:05 < joecool> err yeah 00:05 < EvilDude> haha 00:05 < joecool> haha, defag 00:05 < pacroon> davidc__: But i havent even got to the formatting point yet. 00:05 < Lt> Win 00:06 < joecool> yes.. my ipod has been a little gay lately.. i caught it wearing pink the other day, and humping another male ipod 00:06 < davidc__> pacroon: did you dd to the right partition? 00:06 < littlenicky> joecool ... aparrently it's not good to defrag, but a disk check (in the diagnostics) is recommended. 00:06 < pacroon> err.. how do I make sure that i AM using a g4? It looks like the one on the apple site 00:06 < joecool> littlenicky: i would think that decreasing fragmentation would help with battery 00:06 < coob> ? the disk check just scans for bad blocks i believe. 00:06 < joecool> less seeking 00:06 < courtc> shouldn't matter.. as long as you don't put a _lot_ of small files on the ipod a defrag won't do much.. 00:06 < davidc__> pacroon: 1. Does it have a dock connector? 00:07 < davidc__> 2. where are the buttons located? 00:07 < davidc__> 3. Is it a color screen? 00:07 < coob> are hte buttons grey 00:07 < courtc> ipodlinux.org/generations 00:07 < coob> that's the one. 00:07 < pacroon> ah, allright, i am using g4 - the buttons are on the wheel.. 00:08 < davidc__> pacroon: and it has a dock connector right? 00:08 < pacroon> davidc__: What is that? 00:08 < davidc__> er, it doesn't have a firewire connector on the top/ 00:08 < pacroon> no 00:08 < pacroon> just the headphone holes 00:08 < davidc__> yeah... strange.. 00:08 < pacroon> :| 00:08 < davidc__> well, I've never done any 4g work 00:09 < davidc__> wait till someone who has is around 00:09 < coob> ? 00:09 < pacroon> Yeah okay 00:09 < coob> there's no firewire connector, it all goes through the docking cable. 00:09 < coob> same on 3g 00:09 < davidc__> coob: I was checking if it was a 1g or a 4g ;) 00:09 < coob> lool 00:10 < pacroon> It dosent mess up with the firmware image for g3 - just shows an exclamation point and a folder, so i guess its the building things im doing wrong 00:10 < pacroon> That was why I got nervous ;) 00:10 < joecool> i run a 4g.. but i'm trying to fix up my winblows at the moment 00:10 < joecool> so i don't feel like helping 00:11 < pacroon> :'( 00:11 < joecool> haha.. trying to fix windows... what a losing battle 00:12 < littlenicky> I'm on a 4g too, but I only had that problem once ages ago when I had no idea what I was doing ... and I can't remember now 00:12 < pacroon> littlenicky: How sad 00:13 < Lt> 3.2.5 right firmware for mini 4 gig> 00:13 < Lt> ?? 00:13 < littlenicky> yep, heh 00:15 < pacroon> littlenicky: You must remember! 00:16 < littlenicky> Uhmm ... All I can think of is that I didn't put the loader.bin in or something, but I can't see how that could have worked because make_fw shouldn't accept that. 00:17 -!- nowon [~nowonshal@69-175-33-176.ventca.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 < nowon> hey guyz got a question is it normal to lose all ure song over night and wut is the best way to install ipodlinux restoring it put iplinux on then music? 00:18 < littlenicky> pacroon: Have you tried restoring to Apple and starting again? 00:18 < davidc__> nowon: no, thats not normal. 00:18 < pacroon> littlenicky: No, I can do that 00:18 < davidc__> nowon: the path to ipodlinux is long 00:18 < davidc__> nowon: your first step is to master punctuation. 00:18 < pacroon> Btw, I got to fails while using the second patch btw 00:18 < nowon> lol my wording is a bit sloppy srry 00:19 < EvilDude> hmm iPod has error strings in it like "t_watchdog: Could not allocate timer!" "t_watchdog: No registered handlers for COP event!" "COP has crashed - 0x%X" then "Rebooting" 00:19 < EvilDude> does that mean much to you davidc ? 00:19 < nowon> but this morn i wentto update it i saw songs on my list and my ipod wanted a new name for some reason and then i couldnt input songs on ti 00:20 < davidc__> a bit... 00:20 < littlenicky> nowon: It sounds like you've done a restore on your iPod 00:20 < EvilDude> it's got more interesting stuff too 00:20 < nowon> now i did 00:21 < nowon> how could i restore it without the apple updater? 00:21 < EvilDude> RTCTaskClass TimerTaskClass RsistrAccsryMgr BotSerAccsryMrg AsyncPiezo USBHandler FirewireHandler and a hell of alot more weird stuff 00:22 < EvilDude> Helps understand how the apple firmware works methinks 00:22 < littlenicky> Gotta take off, all ... see ya 00:23 -!- littlenicky [~nik[spamb@222.152.108.179] has quit ["Client Meltdown: 0343"] 00:23 < EvilDude> "PlayBtnTask" "PrvBtnTask" seems every button has a task too 00:23 < Lt> lol 00:24 < coob> RsistrAccsryMgr... 00:24 < nowon> so someone help me solve this question in installing iplinux is it best to restore it then install ipodlinux then put songs on or wut plz help 00:24 < davidc__> mnkeyfcker. 00:24 < coob> there's a pin on the dock connector that requires resistors of various resistances to determin which accessory is which i believe 00:24 < davidc__> nowon: Restore to apple update, then songs 00:24 < davidc__> then ipl 00:24 < davidc__> *restore with 00:24 < coob> nowon: run the apple updater utility and restore it 00:25 < coob> then put your songs back on 00:25 < coob> then put ipod linux on it, once you know everything's working 00:25 < nowon> ahh thx 00:25 < EvilDude> So they have many "managers" to handle what happens on something :S 00:25 < EvilDude> and these managers call tasks perhaps 00:26 < nowon> so heres another noob question how do u install vipodzilla? it says root dir but well that goes ovder my head 00:26 < coob> unsupported. 00:26 < EvilDude> Anyone seen a "The currently attached accessory is not supported by this iPod" coz that's in there too :S 00:27 < coob> i assume that happens when you plug in something with a resistance it doesn't know about.... 00:28 < pacroon> When I copy over the new image it says: 9738+1 records in - 9738+1 records out - 4985928 bytes transferred in 40,630776 seconds (122713 bytes/sec) 00:28 < pacroon> Does that sound correct? 00:28 < EvilDude> more interesting stuff "TimerEventManager" "EventManager" "KeyRepeatTimer" "WindowManager" "HostOSTask" "TimeManager" "MP3ExampleTask"(wtf?) "pcmWrite.wav" 00:28 < Vanquisher> pacroon, sure 00:29 < pacroon> Hm, crap 00:29 < EvilDude> there's the "show_speed" "show_voltage" "disable_cache" but there's also according to this "no_deepsleep" "short_deepsleep" too 00:29 < coob> those are text files 00:29 < coob> er 00:29 < coob> empty files 00:29 < EvilDude> those are just empty files 00:29 < coob> yeah 00:30 < EvilDude> But I mean that there's short_deepsleep which I didn't know 00:30 < EvilDude> The otehrs I knew 00:30 < coob> yeha i've not seen short deepsleep before 00:30 < coob> i may put that on. 00:31 < EvilDude> ok i've found the weirdest thing. 00:31 < EvilDude> "c:\ipod\tagged_checkout\v2_5_001_GM\ipodsw\Firmware\Shared\Services\OpenSSL\crypto\ex_data.c" 00:32 < EvilDude> c:\!!!! Portal Player used windows for this it seems :S? 00:32 < EvilDude> what's Open SSL used for on iPod :S? 00:33 < coob> all teh arm development environments are windows based 00:33 < pacroon> joecool: littlenicky left me.. you're my only hope! 00:33 < coob> the* 00:33 < EvilDude> ah ok 00:33 < veristead> ok, so can the iPodLinux be moved from a Windows to a mac and vica versa without reformatting and erasing all the music? 00:33 < coob> veristead: macs can handle winpods yes. 00:33 < EvilDude> ok wtf : "Microsoft Encrypted File System" 00:34 < veristead> coob, but can windows handle macpods 00:34 < coob> no. 00:34 < coob> otherwise ther would be no winpods would there? 00:34 < veristead> damn bastards 00:35 < veristead> i wish i could transfer them back and fourth 00:35 < veristead> windows needs to fix that 00:35 < coob> you can format an ipod to be either a macpod or a winpod. 00:35 < veristead> er.. microsoft 00:35 < coob> so format it as a winpod 00:35 < coob> and move them back and forth 00:35 < coob> you expect microsoft to write a hfs+ driver? 00:35 < coob> why would they? 00:36 < EvilDude> These strings are scaring me *closes firmware thing* 00:36 < Lt> DAMNIT 00:36 < Lt> IPOD WIZARD IS SO RETARTED 00:36 < veristead> coob: how come if i put a floppy disk into my mac or a zip disk and then save a file to it and bring it to a windows, it formats it and in doing so erases it. However if i take a zip or floppy from a Windows machine and put it in my mac it reads fine, except when i bring it back to the windows 00:37 < Lt> Iv given up 00:37 < coob> because you're using floppies and they're 40 year old technology? 00:37 < veristead> well also zip disks do the same thing 00:38 < Lt> anyone else have any other progs that do the same thing 00:38 < Lt> that work on Win 00:38 < coob> as long as they're FAT formatted they should work fine on both 00:38 < Lt> ? 00:38 < veristead> ah... 00:38 < veristead> well Mac OS X doesn't seemingly do FAT format, but it does MS-DOS (i'm not sure if that is the same thing) 00:39 < coob> also, zips are 10 year old technology that are outdated and should all be scrapped 00:39 < coob> if only for their violent ejects :/ 00:39 < veristead> coob: well some people still use them 00:39 < coob> thats the same thing. 00:39 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["bbl"] 00:39 < coob> some people should buy some frikkin usb keys 00:39 < veristead> it's a pain to keep rewritting CD RW 00:39 < veristead> s 00:39 < coob> 128meg keys probably cost less than zip disks. 00:39 < veristead> coob i could do a lot if i had some money 00:39 < veristead> but will they work for both platforms? 00:40 < veristead> without reformatting 00:40 < davidc__> veristead: usually 00:40 < coob> yes. 00:40 < veristead> ok. 00:40 < veristead> what happens if the machine doesn't have USB? 00:40 < courtc> damn.. your ipod is even better for data storage than a zip disk.. 00:40 -!- lanteau_ [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:40 < coob> every mac os i remember including system 6 supported FAT formatted stuff. 00:40 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm204-118-181-178.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:40 < veristead> coob it reads it, but it won't format disks to that 00:40 < pacroon> Should the apple logo appear at all in the boot sequence? 00:41 < coob> then you network the computer. 00:41 < veristead> not without a third party program 00:41 < coob> pacroon: yes. 00:41 < veristead> coob: well at my skool they have issues with that 00:41 < coob> with what? networks? 00:41 < pacroon> coob: Then what should happen? 00:41 < veristead> and apparently on some of their window 98 boxes it doesn't have the right software to do it 00:41 < veristead> for file sharing that is 00:42 < coob> what the hell 00:42 < coob> they use a 7 year old OS? 00:42 < coob> from microsoft? 00:42 < veristead> my skool is very low tech 00:42 < veristead> VERY 00:42 < veristead> VERY LOW TECH 00:42 < coob> very low clue too it seems. 00:43 < veristead> yes indeed 00:43 < coob> windows 98 is a patch to a 32 bit shell over a 16 bit os written by a 2bit company. 00:43 < veristead> i told them they should start a server with all the files on it that way we dnt need to use floppy disks 00:44 < veristead> we can access it from anywhere 00:45 < veristead> but they are like "then if the server get's a virus, then we compromise all the documents" and i'm like "well don't use a fucking windows server, use something else, like Mac 00:45 < veristead> " 00:45 < Lt> Grrrrrrrrrrr 00:45 < Lt> i am goin to eat my ipod mini 00:45 < pacroon> me 2 00:45 < Lt> its so annoying 00:46 < Lt> and so yummy looking 00:46 < courtc> it looks so tastly.. mmm 00:46 < pacroon> Mines so not working :( 00:48 < Lt> why..... 00:48 < Lt> mine is king of not workin 00:48 < Lt> kind* 00:48 < Lt> Ipod wizard does not work on it 00:48 < pacroon> Dunno, it just wont boot 00:48 < Lt> wont boot? 00:48 < Lt> into apples firmware 00:49 < Lt> or linux 00:49 < pacroon> To linux 00:49 < pacroon> :( 00:49 < Lt> send me the kernal 00:49 < Lt> samccone@gmail.com 00:49 < Lt> compiled 00:49 < Lt> ill try it 00:49 < Lt> :) 00:49 < veristead> :-\ 00:49 < pacroon> I use the nightly build :( 00:49 < Lt> ?????? 00:50 < Lt> i know 00:50 < courtc> just use a nightly 00:50 < veristead> is the iPod mini fully supported by iPodLinux yet? 00:50 < Lt> i dont know what to do 00:50 < Lt> after i dl it 00:50 < Lt> thats why i would be happy if someone just send me the comiled one 00:50 < coob> then maybe you shouldn't be doing anything 00:50 < Lt> compiled 00:50 < Lt> lol 00:50 < coob> just wiat a while for an installer. 00:50 < coob> wait* 00:50 < Lt> Well cygwin is retarted 00:51 < Lt> and Suse cant do it 00:51 < Lt> lol 00:51 < Lt> im in limbo 00:51 < Lt> i understand it but it never works 00:51 < Lt> when i do it 00:52 < Z_Man> any status on 2nd gen mini support? does it still not boot? 00:54 < pacroon> If it makes the same error when building self and using the nightly build, what could be the problem? 00:55 < courtc> user error 00:55 < pacroon> yeah, but where? :P 00:55 < courtc> between the keyboard and the chair.. 00:56 < pacroon> :( .. theres just not that many other things ive done 00:57 < coob> between left ear and right... 00:57 < pacroon> God, I'm going to bed :P 00:58 < coob> thanks for telling me 00:58 < coob> i mena goodnight. 00:58 < Lt> what time is it 00:58 < Lt> where u guys are? 00:59 < Z_Man> 9:00 EST 00:59 < coob> mean8 00:59 < coob> mena** 00:59 < coob> ashdjasdbuasydfhse rb7w3 r788327yrgfyusdxc 00:59 < coob> mean* 00:59 < Lt> Same here 00:59 < Z_Man> PM* 00:59 < Lt> i would so give my right hand for a precompiled nightly build 01:00 < pacroon> +01.00 GMT :( 01:00 < coob> i what the fuck 01:00 < Lt> like that i just have to put on my ipod 01:00 < coob> your right hand? 01:01 < Lt> lol 01:01 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/builds 01:01 < coob> one hand please. 01:01 < Lt> i know 01:02 < Lt> bf 01:02 < Lt> but then from there im like woah 01:02 < Lt> eeven after i read the documentation 01:03 < Lt> lol 01:05 < Lt> maybe thats just me 01:06 < Lt> hello? 01:07 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:08 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 -!- Vanquisher is now known as g0d 01:11 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:11 -!- g0d is now known as joecool 01:15 -!- joecool is now known as Vanquisher 01:16 < pacroon> Woah, little progress.. not its showing the penguin 01:17 < pacroon> But no kernel messages :( 01:17 < coob> does it just show the penguin then go to the apple os? 01:18 < pacroon> yeah, actually 01:18 < coob> you have your images the wrong way round 01:18 < coob> make_fw -3 -o whatever -l kernelimage -i appleos loader.bin 01:18 < coob> your probably ran 01:19 < coob> make_fw -3 -o whatever -i appleos -l kernelimage loader.bin 01:19 < pacroon> Hm .. ill try 01:19 < coob> or just try holding rewind after a reset. 01:19 < pacroon> okay 01:20 < pacroon> hm, still went to apple 01:21 < coob> did you hold rewind before tux came up? 01:21 < coob> and keep it held? 01:21 -!- Vanquisher is now known as joecool 01:21 < pacroon> Yeah :\ 01:22 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 < Lt> HELP 01:23 < pacroon> coob: Now it changed to sdb1 though 01:23 < Lt> Help 01:23 < Lt> i tried to install 01:23 < Lt> and now i get the error message 01:23 < Lt> on my ipod 01:24 < Lt> mini 01:24 < pacroon> coob: oh yeah, its working 01:24 < Lt> Thank god 01:24 < Lt> lol 01:24 < Lt> i was so worried 01:24 < pacroon> :P 01:25 < pacroon> Hey man ive been struggling for 3 hours 01:25 < Lt> now my ipod is named i reset it 01:25 < Lt> lol 01:25 < Lt> :) 01:25 -!- joecool is now known as Vanquisher 01:25 < Lt> never run the instaler on ur mini 01:25 < Lt> lol 01:25 < Lt> :) 01:26 < Lt> so where do i go for instructions how to install the night build 01:26 < pacroon> http://ipodlinux.org/Kernel_Building#Installing_the_Kernel 01:26 < pacroon> And change ../linux-2-24blah/Image with the file.bin 01:26 < BleuLlama> Lt: put more than two words on each line. 01:28 < Lt> o crap now my ipod is acting weird again 01:28 < Lt> how do i enable disk write mode? 01:28 < Lt> manualy 01:28 < BleuLlama> look in the wiki 01:28 < Z_Man> restart it, and then press left button, and select ? 01:29 < Z_Man> is that it? 01:29 < Vanquisher> i thought it was the rewind and fast foward 01:29 < Z_Man> wait. it's the down button.. 01:29 < BleuLlama> depends on the gen. it's all in the wiki 01:29 < Z_Man> wait... 01:29 < Z_Man> i dunno 01:29 < BleuLlama> just freaking look it up in the wiki 01:29 < Z_Man> ok 01:29 < coob> ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 01:30 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:30 < pacroon> When I try to create a new partition I only get 1-5 where I sould get 1-33, regarding the last cylinder. You know about this? 01:32 < veristead> i like lying 01:32 < veristead> lying is fun 01:32 < Z_Man> especially when you trick someone ;-p 01:34 < veristead> yea like verizon into given me someone elses password and screen name 01:34 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162174205.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:35 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 < Lt> wo 01:35 < Lt> thank you god 01:36 -!- Lt [~samccone@cblmdm63-162-18-123.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Client Quit] 01:36 < coob> ! 01:36 < coob> yay! 01:37 < EvilDude> haha 01:37 < pacroon> coob: You don't know about this fdisk thing? 01:40 < BleuLlama> is hyarion around? 01:41 < pacroon> The second partition is starting at 6 and not 33 .. hrm 01:41 < courtc> pacroon- just use 1-2 for 1 and 3-5 for 3 01:42 < pacroon> 1-2 of what 01:43 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-83-243-205.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 < coob> pacroon: i use a hfs+ ipod 01:43 < pacroon> coob: oh :\ 01:43 < pacroon> coob: 1-2 of what? 01:43 < coob> the partitions 01:43 < coob> blocks i guess 01:43 < courtc> d 1 n p 1 1 2 n p 3 3 5 w 01:44 -!- MaDsKiLLz [billy@madskillz.user] has quit ["autokilled: [AKILL ID:1112199546K-a] [exp/ma] You are infected with an IRC trojan/virus. Visit http://www.kernel.org for a fi] 01:44 < pacroon> oh.. i will try that 01:45 < courtc> is it cool or just sad when you can do that off the top of your head? 01:45 < coob> lol 01:45 < BleuLlama> sad 01:46 < coob> both at the same time :/ 01:46 < pacroon> "mke2fs: No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size" :8 01:47 < coob> BleuLlama: hmm did you say you had a newer version of your vector text stuff? 01:47 < coob> also, can scale be less than 1? 01:47 < BleuLlama> kinda? 01:48 < BleuLlama> maybe newer... 01:48 < BleuLlama> and no. 01:48 < BleuLlama> it uses integer scaling 01:48 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:48 < courtc> sfdisk -R /dev/whatever (sda or sdb probably) after the fdisk will cause the kernel to reread the partition table.. 01:48 < coob> you sai dyou added some chars 01:48 < BleuLlama> i can add double-based scaling if you want 01:48 < coob> ok 01:48 < BleuLlama> yeah. i added some punctuation 01:48 < pacroon> oh, my bad 01:48 < BleuLlama> i'll make it avail later tonight. :) 01:48 < coob> cool can i have a copy? 01:48 < coob> nice thanks 01:48 -!- lanteau_ is now known as Hostile 01:48 < coob> Tue Apr 5 01:50:37 BST 2005 01:48 < BleuLlama> i can send it now if you want. 01:48 < BleuLlama> actually... hold a sec 01:48 < Hostile> coob, how the mpd thing coming? 01:49 < coob> ? 01:49 < Hostile> courtc, * 01:49 < BleuLlama> nope. not online. later tonight. 01:50 < courtc> mpc client? its not.. I don't really have much motivation until 4g audio works and mp3 support is added(or i get alot of flacs) 01:50 < coob> k 01:50 < coob> can you email it? 01:51 < coob> BleuLlama: also, i was thinking of modifying it so it respects the gc's use background flag 01:52 < coob> i.e filling the area in which it's to be drawnwith the gc's background 01:52 < Hostile> courtc, dang 01:52 < Hostile> I want mpd 01:56 < courtc> yea, everyone wants something.. 01:56 < pacroon> Whats the difference between uclinux ipod2 and ipod0? 01:56 < coob> neither will work on your ipod. 01:57 < pacroon> hah, allright, I should use the one from cvs I suppose? 01:58 < courtc> I see no reason to use anything other than a nightly build unless you plan to hack on the kernel... (in which case you would be answering questions and not asking them) 01:58 < pacroon> Just trying to go through the userland installation.. 02:00 < pacroon> So how do I use the builded bin file to update my ipod with the latest kernel modules? In the guide its untar'ing a file.. 02:00 < coob> you dont need modules 02:00 < coob> for the newest ipods 02:00 < pacroon> I see 02:02 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-202-173.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:04 < coob> BleuLlama: 02:04 < BleuLlama> oh damn. so close. 02:05 < coob> for the height in px, scale * 8 shoul do right? 02:05 < coob> should* 02:05 < BleuLlama> i can play mods, adjust volume, scrub through the song, go to the next song, but 'menu' hangs it. hehehe 02:05 < BleuLlama> yep. that's correct. 02:05 < BleuLlama> i'll put in a 'get size' function for consistancy 02:05 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 < BleuLlama> er. get_height() 02:05 < coob> GrGetGCInfo( gc, &gc_info ); 02:05 < coob> if ( gc_info.usebackground == GR_FALSE ) { 02:05 < coob> foreground = gc_info.foreground 02:05 < coob> GrSetGCForeground( gc, gc_info.background ); 02:05 < coob> GrFillRect( wid, gc, xp, y, 02:05 < coob> vector_string_pixel_width( string, kern, scale), ( scale * 8) ); 02:05 < coob> GrSetGCBackground( gcm foreground ); 02:05 < coob> } 02:05 < coob> does that look ok? 02:05 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < BleuLlama> i think so 02:06 < pacroon> Crap, now I get the folder and exclamation point 02:06 < BleuLlama> just remember that the x,y for the vector text is the upper left of the leftmost character 02:06 < coob> yeah thats fine 02:07 < coob> it is with grtext too if you use GR_TFTOP 02:07 < coob> (which i do) 02:07 * BleuLlama nods 02:07 < coob> so much easier for positioning... 02:08 < coob> doh 02:08 < coob> gcm = gc, 02:08 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162174205.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:08 < coob> and a ; missing\ 02:09 < coob> and GR_FALSE should be GR_TRUE :) 02:13 < coob> scale * 8 doesn't cover it :/ 02:13 < coob> misses it by 1 px 02:13 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 02:13 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 02:13 < BleuLlama> i think that's because of rect not drawing enough pixels. 02:13 < BleuLlama> maybe? 02:15 < coob> that last SetBackground should be a set foreground too 02:15 < BleuLlama> YAY. mikmod quits! 02:15 < BleuLlama> but if you launch it a second time, it dies. :( 02:15 < coob> :( 02:17 < coob> ( scale * 8) + 1 works at scales 1, 2, testing others 02:18 < coob> yeah thats the one. 02:21 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 02:21 < coob> yeah half size vector stuff would be good 02:22 < BleuLlama> yeah. 02:23 -!- biker4444 [~biker4444@cpe-24-175-18-143.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:23 -!- biker4444 [~biker4444@cpe-24-175-18-143.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:24 < BleuLlama> Hoorah! 02:24 < BleuLlama> figured it out 02:24 < BleuLlama> yeah, so definitely expect a mikmodpodzilla release later tonight 02:24 < coob> what was it 02:25 < coob> hah cool 02:25 < BleuLlama> I was re-registering all of the drivers, and then initting the player. i should have been Reseting it instead (which initializes if it needs to) 02:25 < BleuLlama> just wasn't starting it up right 02:25 < coob> a s/int scale/double scale/; on vectorfont.[ch] worked 02:25 < BleuLlama> lol 02:31 < coob> well 02:31 < coob> the pixel width calculation goes a little off 02:31 < coob> but apart from that 02:31 < coob> it's neat. 02:45 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:46 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:52 -!- TX297` [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 -!- calla_lily [~iamtheora@ip68-101-178-86.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 -!- calla_lily [~iamtheora@ip68-101-178-86.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:03 -!- nowon [~nowonshal@69-175-33-176.ventca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:03 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:07 < BleuLlama> okey. time to put some visualizations into mikpodzilla 03:19 < EvilDude> ^ cool 03:20 < davidc__> hmm.. anyone think I should host a svn server for these subprojects? 03:21 < courtc> heh.. /me has an svn server, but not enough bandwidth.. 03:22 < EvilDude> what's the advantage of a svn server? 03:22 < BleuLlama> what is svn? 03:22 < courtc> it wouldn't be a bad thing.. 03:23 < courtc> http://subversion.tigris.org/ 03:23 < BleuLlama> oh. subversion. got it. 03:24 < davidc__> well, what I'm thinking is then I can run a nightly tree with the latest and greates 03:24 < EvilDude> ah 03:24 < davidc__> automatically compiled from the svn's of various projects 03:24 < EvilDude> that'd be pretty cool 03:25 < Luke> arg... is there a std way to parse command line interface arguments in C? 03:25 < courtc> I don't really care about a nightly, but it would help to organize subprojects.. 03:25 * coob mumbles something about moving away from sourceforge and having our own svn server 03:26 < coob> Luke: getopt 03:26 < Luke> does getop only work with commands coming into main tho? 03:27 < coob> it works with any array and array counter 03:27 -!- Sliverque [~giveitup@adsl-69-109-208-187.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:27 < Luke> so is it just a function... i'm reading the man pages and i dont understand how to use it 03:27 -!- TX297` [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:28 < courtc> there's an example in the manpage 03:28 < Luke> not in my manpages 03:28 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 03:28 < courtc> man 3 getopt 03:29 < EvilDude> how many people are making a version of Falldown =\ (on the forums at least) 03:29 < Luke> oooh thats magical 03:29 < Luke> thanks courtc and coob 03:29 < Luke> ooh this only works with argv tho 03:29 < coob> 42 03:30 < Luke> the program i am rinning is like a shell in itself 03:30 < Sliverque> how is the keyboard idea? 03:30 < coob> Luke it'll work with naything thats like argv. 03:30 < courtc> nah, it'll work with any char ** 03:30 < Sliverque> I was reading the forums and people were wishing for a usb keyboard--- 03:30 < Luke> how do i know how big to make the char ** tho? 03:30 < Luke> thats the problem 03:30 < Sliverque> there is a usb cable! 03:30 < coob> Sliverque: only the 4g/photo can act as a usb host 03:30 < BleuLlama> yep 03:31 < BleuLlama> that's how the camera adapter is so small, and why it doesn't work on 3g and 4g 03:31 < coob> er 03:31 < coob> it doesn't work on 4g for marketing reasons 03:31 < coob> it *cant* work on the 3g 03:31 < BleuLlama> no, it doesn't work on 4g since there's no usb host support in it 03:31 < coob> there is. 03:31 < coob> they use they same soc 03:31 < BleuLlama> no, there's not 03:31 < Luke> no other suggestions for me coob ? 03:32 < BleuLlama> the firmware is different then. 03:32 < coob> of course the firmwares different 03:32 < coob> one displays photos :) 03:32 < Luke> hehehe 03:32 < EvilDude> BleuLlama hardware supports USB for 4g/mini 03:32 < coob> *USB host 03:32 < EvilDude> USB Host* yes :P 03:32 < coob> bleu the hw is the same, ish, nothing different on the usb side 03:33 < coob> its limited by the firmware. 03:33 < Sliverque> well you guys are writing your own firmware! 03:33 < Sliverque> right? 03:33 < coob> yes. but we kknow nothing about the usb part of the soc 03:33 < coob> so until some reverse engineering is done on that 03:33 < coob> there will be no progress 03:34 < coob> and audio is a higher priority. 03:34 < Luke> but why!? 03:34 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-38-35.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["rebooting: new kernel, for profiling"] 03:34 < Luke> why isnt keyboards higher priority!? 03:34 < Luke> i want keyboards on my ipod! 03:34 < EvilDude> wendt has some great ideas =\ http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=775 03:34 < davidc__> fuck off and die Luke ;) 03:34 < Luke> make it work with the 2g 03:34 < Luke> hehehe 03:34 < EvilDude> haha 03:35 * Luke bans me 03:35 < Luke> anyway C is crappy for making shells 03:35 < BleuLlama> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 03:36 < BleuLlama> good one. 03:36 < Luke> my bad my bad 03:36 < davidc__> C is the fucking best. 03:36 < Luke> command line interfaces 03:36 < coob> a perl sheel would be nice 03:36 < coob> there probably already is one. 03:36 < coob> *perl 03:36 < Sliverque> actually i was thinking about the audio- for the time being, untill you improve the playback for high bitrate you could patch podzilla to only read say every other "bit" of a 256 making 128 output (for ex.) 03:36 < coob> or a php shell :) 03:36 < BleuLlama> yeah. there are a few perl shells 03:36 < Luke> there is a php shell if im not mistaken 03:36 < coob> Sliverque: thats not how it works. 03:36 < Luke> im not going to find it for you though 03:36 < BleuLlama> silver: that doesn't work 03:36 < Sliverque> darn 03:37 < coob> well you coul do that 03:37 < BleuLlama> silver; that's like saying to make a book shorter to read, just drop every other word 03:37 < coob> but it'd play white noise. 03:37 < Sliverque> oh 03:37 < Luke> i think its a good idea si 03:37 < Luke> Sliverque* 03:37 < Sliverque> well, what about a file reencoded from 128 to 256? 03:37 < Sliverque> would that sound normal? 03:37 < BleuLlama> it. doesn't. work. like. that. 03:38 < Sliverque> cause a reencode just doubles the bits... I think 03:38 < EvilDude> rofl 03:38 < Sliverque> oh well 03:38 < davidc__> Shahahahahhahaa 03:38 < davidc__> er. without the S. 03:38 < Luke> now now no need to be mean 03:38 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:38 < Luke> he's just trying to help 03:38 < Sliverque> HE? 03:38 < Luke> s/he was implied 03:38 < Sliverque> :) 03:39 < davidc__> She. Sorry, we assume everyone's male until proven different. 03:39 < Sliverque> just kidding you 03:39 < Luke> hehe yes 03:39 < davidc__> Its a rare day there's females in here. 03:39 < Luke> ok 03:39 < EvilDude> actually if we skipped every second frame... ;)? 03:39 < davidc__> See, we were right. 03:39 < BleuLlama> every other frame would work. 03:39 < davidc__> EvilDude: That would go at double speed ;) 03:39 < BleuLlama> but it would sound skippy 03:39 < coob> [03:41] [freenode] «Whois» | User: Sliverque (~giveitup@adsl-69-109-208-187.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net): Bob 03:39 < coob> a very feminine name.. 03:39 < Luke> haha bob 03:39 < EvilDude> lol 03:40 < BleuLlama> there was a girl named bob in BlackAdder 03:40 < coob> more than once. 03:40 < Sliverque> what the heck? what is that u posted? 03:40 < Luke> i take it blackadder was fiction 03:40 < davidc__> lets call Sliverque bobbette from now. 03:40 < coob> in 2 and 4 i think 03:40 < BleuLlama> blackadder was very good british comedy. :) 03:40 < Luke> Sliverque: /whois 03:40 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 03:40 < Sliverque> that's weird 03:40 < coob> as is the office :) 03:40 < coob> i watched the american version of that 03:40 < Luke> hahaha british comedy is a joke in itself 03:40 < coob> not as good :/ 03:40 < EvilDude> Sliverque: they're stalking you 03:40 < Sliverque> ... 03:41 < davidc__> yeah.. I wanna watch the office.... but I can't get my hands on it 03:41 < davidc__> no video store around here has it 03:41 < Luke> steal it with your ipod 03:41 < BleuLlama> office isn't for me. i don't really like the comedy based on tension 03:41 < BleuLlama> -the 03:41 < coob> i watched it and thought gervais was a brilliant actor, then i relaised hes really like that :) 03:41 < coob> haha 03:42 < coob> some kid got caught at a compusa 03:42 < Sliverque> you guys ever seen monty python and the holy grail? 03:42 < coob> for stealing a demo version of office from a g4 03:42 < coob> with his ipod 03:42 < Luke> hehehe 03:42 < BleuLlama> um. yeah. 03:42 < Luke> for real? 03:42 < Sliverque> that's crazy 03:42 < Sliverque> kid finally figured out what to do with the ipod 03:43 < Sliverque> (btw- my ipod right now says "now hacking system" instead of "do not disconnect" :) ) 03:44 < Luke> hehe 03:45 < Luke> mine says "disconnect me!!!!" 03:45 < EvilDude> heh 03:45 < Sliverque> is the reason why ipod can't connect in podzilla cause of the whole not knowing usb hardware thing? 03:46 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-38-35.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:46 * Luke bans courtc 03:46 * Luke bans ~court@adsl-158-38-35.asm.bellsouth.net 03:46 < Luke> there 03:47 < Luke> that should keep him out! 03:47 < courtc> oh my... what did i do now? 03:47 < Luke> he keeps trying to come in here... 03:47 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:47 < davidc__> eh, better kick him 03:47 -!- courtc was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [davidc__] 03:47 < davidc__> heheheh. 03:47 < davidc__> er. 03:47 < davidc__> wait.. 03:48 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!courtc@ADSL-158-38-35.ASM.BELLSOUTH.NET ] by davidc__ 03:49 < Luke> hey veteran 03:49 < Luke> how goes it 03:49 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!~courtc@ADSL-158-38-35.ASM.BELLSOUTH.NET ] by davidc__ 03:50 < EvilDude> davidc__ you killed him! 03:50 < davidc__> yes, I did 03:50 < Sliverque> why exactly are we kicking courtc? 03:50 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-38-35.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:50 < davidc__> Sliverque: for fun 03:50 < Luke> courtc's evil 03:50 < Sliverque> oh, evils good 03:50 < Luke> he always tries developing stuff..... 03:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by davidc__ 03:50 < Luke> evil stuff! 03:51 < Sliverque> wow, that's vicious 03:51 < Sliverque> *psst* hey, courtc, how's the world domination coming? 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:51 < Sliverque> going alright here... 03:51 < Luke> woot 03:51 < Sliverque> it 03:51 < Sliverque> 's 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by davidc__ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by davidc__ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by davidc__ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:51 < Sliverque> w00t isn't it? 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by davidc__ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:51 < EvilDude> why the hell does ChanServ randomly op and deop people :S 03:51 < davidc__> damn chanserv 03:51 < Luke> wow this is sweet 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by davidc__ 03:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:52 < Luke> chanserv owns you 03:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 03:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by ChanServ 03:52 < Luke> there 03:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by davidc__ 03:52 < Luke> hehe 03:52 < Luke> good thing we dont normally have ops =) 03:52 < davidc__> I was just trying to remember the chanserv command to exile you. 03:52 < courtc> chanserv wins ;) 03:52 < davidc__> yeah 03:52 < EvilDude> why do we have no ops :P 03:52 < Luke> hehehe there is no chanserv command to exile me... 03:52 < davidc__> EvilDude: because. 03:52 < davidc__> Luke: yeah, I just set access 0 03:52 < EvilDude> davidc__ : oh of course 03:52 < Sliverque> what's the patch for the current kernel for? 03:52 < Luke> no ops = no one trying to bug us 03:52 < Sliverque> to patch what? 03:52 < EvilDude> haha 03:53 < EvilDude> true 03:53 < coob> ... the kernel. 03:53 < Luke> and no one trying to get voice when they dont need it 03:53 < Luke> like a certain Jonaz 03:53 < Luke> *cough* all the time *cough* 03:53 < EvilDude> lol 03:54 < Luke> he likes to pretend that reporting multi-month old php bugs will get him a voice 03:54 < courtc> people who spend enough time in here know whos important anyway.. no need to feed our egos.. they're already bloated 03:54 < EvilDude> hehe even I noticed :) 03:54 < davidc__> hahah 03:54 < davidc__> last I checked, nobody is voiced 03:54 < davidc__> we never bother voicing anyone 03:55 < davidc__> the only reason that I'm ops in here is because chanserv auto-ops me and I forget to deop 03:55 < Sliverque> I meant what needed fixing? 03:55 < coob> +q makes more sens than +v +m 03:55 < Luke> people that spend enough time in here know i dont matter worth a crap 03:55 < coob> sense* 03:55 < coob> unless the slashdot herds are in 03:55 < Sliverque> oh, and what's the equivilant of the -r in "mv -r" for cp? 03:55 < davidc__> -r 03:55 < davidc__> or -R 03:55 < Sliverque> really? 03:55 < davidc__> one of the two 03:55 < davidc__> yeah. 03:55 < davidc__> methinks its -r 03:56 < Sliverque> there seemed to be confusion when I last asked 03:56 < BleuLlama> THAT'S NOT A BLOATED EGO. 03:56 < Luke> me and davidc__ keep our ops incase of a slashdot attack 03:56 < BleuLlama> it's cancer. 03:56 < Sliverque> ppl asked whether it was cp or mv I was talking about... 03:56 < davidc__> courtc has ops. 03:56 < courtc> umm.. mv has no -r option... 03:56 < Sliverque> what? 03:56 < Sliverque> really? 03:56 < davidc__> mv doesn't need a -r option 03:56 < davidc__> it doesn't need to recurse down a tree 03:56 < Sliverque> oh, just moves it all immediatly? 03:57 < davidc__> it just moves the rooty 03:57 < davidc__> er, the root of what you point to 03:57 < Luke> it moves the object (dir or file) 03:57 < davidc__> and that references everything else 03:57 < Sliverque> i see 03:57 < Sliverque> good, good 03:57 < Sliverque> hey, could we put a tar command on the ipod? 03:58 < Sliverque> drop the tarball in, do it later 03:58 < davidc__> Sliverque: why? 03:58 < Sliverque> just because 03:58 < Sliverque> that's why 03:58 < Sliverque> ") 03:58 < Sliverque> *:) 03:58 < Sliverque> you know it's bad when you can't type emoticons correct... 03:58 < EvilDude> that reasoning only works for davidc__ ;) 03:58 < Sliverque> and me 03:58 < Sliverque> g2g though 03:59 < davidc__> er, it doesn't work for me 03:59 -!- Sliverque [~giveitup@adsl-69-109-208-187.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [] 04:01 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:02 < veteran> nobody bans me 04:02 < veteran> i have the xp forum theme loaded and ready 04:02 < veteran> just in case 04:02 < courtc> haha! 04:03 < veteran> oh, you didn't get to see it did you? 04:03 < courtc> btw who put that tux on steroids up in the forums? 04:03 < davidc__> courtc: link? 04:03 < courtc> nope.. never saw it :/ 04:03 < veteran> the header 04:03 < davidc__> oh 04:03 < veteran> i did... 04:03 < davidc__> it just looks like tux 04:03 < veteran> he gives the forum a friendlier tone 04:03 < veteran> helps balance out the flaming 04:04 < courtc> yea, but hes not our mascot... 04:04 < courtc> :/ 04:04 < veteran> pssh the mascot is on the front page 04:04 < Luke> hehe 04:04 < davidc__> I still say the mascot looks like he's fingering everyone 04:04 < davidc__> oh, and he's stoned 04:04 < Luke> its true 04:05 < Luke> he's high as a kite 04:05 < courtc> my argument: http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/ 04:06 < BleuLlama> mental note 10-value != value-10 heh 04:06 < courtc> that penguin does not look contented.. he looks like hes been shot up with caffiene 04:06 < veteran> I bet he is just _stuffed_ with herring" 04:07 < Luke> i've got some news: i like it so its not changing 04:08 < Luke> btw good work vet =) 04:08 < courtc> ugh... I am boycotting it then.. 04:08 < Luke> hahaha 04:08 < veteran> i didn't make it 04:08 < Luke> oh i'm only kidding 04:08 < veteran> i just copy/pasted/mutilated a few different pixels from the forum 04:08 < Luke> but if you can make a better one, me and vet will vote to see if we wanna replace it =p 04:09 < Luke> or maybe *everyone* will vote... except courtc just cause... 04:09 < veteran> open source != democracy 04:09 < Luke> hehehe 04:09 < veteran> Lukegarchy 04:10 < Luke> pff.... i didnt put that on there 04:10 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-202-173.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:10 < courtc> I'm not going to submit artwork to be reviewed by a board.. its against my morals.. 04:10 < Luke> veteranarchy 04:10 < Luke> courtc: you have no morals 04:10 < Luke> =) 04:11 < courtc> yea, and I don't code anything useful either... but that doesn't stop me.. 04:11 < Luke> anyway, disregarding all my lukegarchy, i think its fare to say that unless we see anything to rival it, it stays 04:11 < davidc__> why not just make about 3 or 4, and have then selected randomly 04:11 < Luke> courtc: LMAO! 04:11 < Luke> haha 04:11 < davidc__> make em the same size and everyhing 04:11 < davidc__> that would be cool 04:11 < Luke> you make 3 or 4 04:11 < Luke> and i'll write the code 04:11 < davidc__> we already have 2 04:12 < davidc__> courtc was gonna make one 04:12 < Luke> alright - you know where to send em =) 04:12 < veteran> the courtc avator concept 04:12 < courtc> my point is that it is just some random drawing.. why can't we use our logo? 04:12 < Luke> ah 04:12 < Luke> good point 04:12 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:12 < veteran> because our logo is everywhere else? variety? 04:13 < Luke> i doo happen to like our logo 04:13 < courtc> if you don't like our logo replace that instead.. 04:13 < Luke> and efram did make it colored 04:13 < davidc__> I dunno. I think we should use the logo 04:13 < Luke> someone start a vote somewhere 04:13 < Luke> even if its not a democracy, we can pretend 04:13 < davidc__> eh, rigging the vote is trivial 04:13 < Luke> hehehehe 04:14 < Luke> is this even worth changing tho? i dont thinnk its that big a deal 04:14 < Luke> we should be concentrating on more important things like.... font sizes 04:16 < Luke> well i afk 04:16 < veteran> eh what good are font sizes if we dont have a good forum header?!!? 04:17 < courtc> the reason I brought it up is because I think that tux is ugly.. my reasoning to change it is because it isnt our logo.. Thats all I'll have to say.. 04:19 < veteran> alright courtc i changed it, see if you like 04:20 < courtc> now that i saw coming... 04:20 < veteran> whew good thing you didn't go afk 04:20 < davidc__> what did it change to? 04:20 < davidc__> I didn't see it? 04:20 < veteran> don't meddle 04:20 < davidc__> veteran: hrm? what you speak of? 04:21 < veteran> it was... eh... 04:21 < veteran> too horrible for words 04:21 < davidc__> oh god. goatse? 04:21 < davidc__> you monster. 04:21 < coob> i don't see a change 04:21 < davidc__> and I'll meddle if I damn well want to 04:22 < veteran> hahah goatse?! what type of person would do that... 04:22 * veteran ignores mirror 04:22 < courtc> veteran- wheres that linux wiki at? 04:23 < veteran> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/ 04:23 < veteran> it's not eh.. ready. 04:23 < coob> tux shouldn't a) stand b) look like he just drank 5 gallons of cofee 04:23 < coob> he's supposed to look contented 04:23 < coob> as ldemanded by linus himself 04:23 < coob> -l 04:23 < coob> hence, use the logo 04:24 < veteran> i think it's time the two logos fought it out 04:24 < coob> also, the on with the logo doesn't have as many compression artifacts as the current one 04:24 < coob> i don't. 04:26 < veteran> i'm beginning to miss the phpbb logo already 04:26 < coob> what's worng with using the official logo 04:26 < davidc__> veteran: Last I checked, bern decreed the official logo was the one to use... 04:26 < davidc__> veteran: so before doing anything drastic, we need to check with him 04:27 < veteran> ... changing one image is "drastic"? 04:27 < courtc> veteran- you used a script for this? (i hope) 04:27 < veteran> courtc - india 04:27 < veteran> cheaper than gas 04:27 < coob> if you changed the image on the main page it would be, less so on the forums but still its a big change. 04:28 < veteran> it's not the official logo. 04:28 < courtc> hmm.. you need to tweak the outsourcing a bit.. 04:28 < veteran> haha yes i do 04:28 < veteran> they need to tweak their documentation... sheesh 04:28 < veteran> half of it is docbook, half html 04:29 < veteran> good regexp practice 04:29 < courtc> indeed.. 04:29 < davidc__> veteran: anyways, all I was saying is that at one point, bern decreed that the original logo was the one we're using 04:29 < coob> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/index.php/WikiText-HOWTO 04:29 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:29 < coob> aha 04:29 < veteran> and all i'm saying, is it's just a freaking logo. 04:30 < coob> 'a'. singular. we have one logo. 04:30 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:30 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 04:30 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by davidc__ 04:31 < veteran> wow wikitext howto didn't turn out as bad as i was expecting 04:31 < coob> wouldn't xslt be more handy than regexp for converting from docbook? 04:32 < davidc__> yeah... 04:32 < davidc__> use xslt 04:32 < davidc__> docbook is just xml 04:32 < veteran> the problem is not all of it is in docbook 04:32 < coob> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:PCTel-MicroModem-Config 04:32 < coob> heh 04:33 < veteran> erm, how did that guy find it?! *checks google* 04:33 < davidc__> hahahah 04:33 < coob> convert rh html to docbook then, you'd be doing them a favour :) 04:33 < veteran> yep. it's on google... 04:33 < veteran> bah! 04:34 < courtc> mediawiki wikis get super high scores on google.. 04:34 < veteran> conspiracy? 04:34 < coob> dumb 04:34 < coob> seeing how they can be abused so easily 04:35 < davidc__> I still can't believe someone asked for help in the talk pages 04:36 < courtc> robots.txt: 04:36 < courtc> User-agent: * 04:36 < courtc> Disallow: / 04:36 < veteran> http://wiki.sys-techs.com/robots.txt 04:36 < veteran> err tldp.sys-techs 04:37 < coob> 404 04:37 < veteran> http://tldp.sys-techs.com/robots.txt 04:37 * coob typo 04:37 < veteran> articles like this are the biggest problem: http://tldp.sys-techs.com/wiki/index.php/Ftape 04:37 < courtc> http://www.google.com/remove.html 04:38 < veteran> i'm going to modify mediawiki to split each section so the pages aren't so huge 04:42 < coob> you should import the text versions of each page first 04:42 < coob> then make the wikisation a chage in the history 04:42 < coob> or does that make no sense 04:44 < veteran> hm well extra mysql overhead 04:44 < veteran> might be interesting to see the diffs though 04:45 < coob> one of the things that will be really usefull in the iPod can be a big quiz game, 04:45 < coob> spot the (oxy)moron 04:46 < coob> 'dammit macguyver, what do we do' 'hold on my ipod has a quiz!' 04:46 < coob> says the author of a matrix demo. 04:47 < courtc> magic 8 ball.. 04:48 < veteran> matrix 8 ball! 04:48 < courtc> figgle, cowsay 04:48 < coob> figgle? figglet? 04:48 < coob> haha 04:48 < courtc> yea, me typo 04:49 < coob> change new_stringview_window to do cowsay on short strings :/ 04:49 < coob> i'm going to do that the next time i'm bored and can't for some reason work on ipl stuff.. submit patches that do useless things to open source projects 04:50 < coob> 'hi here's an apache module to interface with your toaster' 04:50 < courtc> thats awesome... "wtf would we want that for?" "dunno, i was bored" 04:52 < veteran> hah 04:52 < veteran> you could be the open source jester 04:52 < coob> or a proffesional easter egg programmer. 04:52 < coob> hah i'd love that job 04:52 < courtc> haha... 04:53 < coob> it'd make working on accounting software.. fun :) 04:55 < courtc> /* 04:55 < courtc> * Totals: 04:55 < courtc> * 80 multiplies 04:55 < courtc> * 80 additions 04:55 < courtc> * 119 subtractions 04:55 < courtc> * 49 shifts (not counting SSO) 04:55 < courtc> */ 04:55 < coob> ? 04:55 < courtc> from dct32() in libmad.. 04:56 < coob> blimey :/ 04:56 < coob> least there's no divisions. 04:56 < courtc> yup.. 04:56 < coob> i wonder if a lookup table would be faster for the multiplications. 04:57 < courtc> you want to implement it? 04:57 < coob> heh. 04:57 < courtc> synth.c:123 04:58 < coob> OPT_DCTO 04:59 < coob> bha 05:01 < coob> hmm my libmad doesn't have audio_linear_dither 05:05 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:07 < coob> heh 05:07 < coob> lets send someone on http://www.arm.com/support/training/type4695.html :) 05:08 < veteran> compromise. http://ipodlinux.org/forums/ 05:09 < courtc> umm... weird 05:11 < coob> wth 05:11 < coob> that just looks wrong 05:12 < veteran> haha i give up 05:12 < veteran> that's how it stays, there's no pleasing you guys 05:13 < courtc> haha.. we're easy to please.. just not while pleasing yourself at the same time.. 05:15 < coob> :/ just use the original logo, that's not asking much 05:15 < coob> not 'hard to please' at all. 05:15 < coob> do you not like the official logo or something? 05:15 < coob> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/12/14/94342/446 05:18 < courtc> yea, I can't really attempt any arm asm until I get an arm7tdmi platform capable of playing audio.. :/ 05:18 < tanq> heh 05:18 < courtc> until then its cheap c tricks... 05:20 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["."] 05:20 < courtc> or maybe someone could convince someone with arm asm knowledge and a working ipod (*cough*davidc__*cough*) to try and hack on it.. 05:21 < EvilDude> courtc: you know arm asm? 05:22 < courtc> umm.. I can read/write simple instructions... I know very little about the actual operations of the hardware.. 05:22 < tanq> hey where is the server that hosts the ipl webiste located 05:23 < EvilDude> ah ok 05:23 < tanq> is it in dallas? 05:25 < courtc> think so.. 05:47 -!- Suriyawong [~Tony@ip70-178-222-192.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:47 < Suriyawong> hello. 05:47 -!- Suriyawong [~Tony@ip70-178-222-192.ma.dl.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:55 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:00 < davidc__> courtc: what happened to ur ipod? 06:01 < courtc> my 1g? it hasn't been able to connect to my computer since dec 18th.. 06:05 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:08 < BleuLlama> what's wrong with it? 06:08 < courtc> lots.. the harddrive mostly.. the firewire prot doesn't seem to work either... 06:09 < BleuLlama> :( 06:12 < coob> http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DAI0034A_efficient_c.pdf 06:19 < coob> hm i doubt gcc does half the optimisations the armcc does :/ 06:27 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:29 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:30 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:37 -!- Chernobyl [~MYOB@pool-68-163-225-130.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:45 -!- veristead [~MYOB@pool-68-163-205-207.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:24 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 07:25 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:27 < BleuLlama> just finished install instructions and build instructions for mikpodzilla 07:27 < BleuLlama> uploading right now 07:31 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:40 < BleuLlama> night all 07:40 < EvilDude> night BleuLlama 07:46 < coob> night 07:46 < coob> i just got the helix mp3 decoder to compile 07:49 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-202-173.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:52 < EvilDude> coob: cool! 07:52 < EvilDude> coob: for iPod? 07:53 < EvilDude> actually sort of useless for iPod for you isn't it =\ 07:53 < coob> eh 07:53 < coob> i got it to compile 07:54 < coob> doesn't mean i know how to use it :) 07:54 < EvilDude> haha ;) 07:54 < EvilDude> well if you need testing on iPod i should be around 07:54 < coob> there's a command line testwrapper 07:54 < EvilDude> oo sounds good 08:02 < EvilDude> command line wrapper not working so well? 08:02 < coob> only just built it 08:02 < coob> lets see if it runs :) 08:04 < EvilDude> yep :D 08:08 < coob> hmm what plays rawpcm files on os x 08:09 < EvilDude> no idea :S 08:09 < coob> ok unless it decoded in 839201831 seconds 08:09 < coob> i think it failed 08:09 < coob> *0.2871893721 08:11 < EvilDude> =\ damn 08:11 < EvilDude> iPod is pretty fast you know :P 08:12 < EvilDude> wait that was decoding on os x? 08:12 < EvilDude> i'm lost as to what you're tryign to do :P 08:13 < coob> no 08:13 < coob> the testwrapper to the library 08:13 < coob> takes an mp3 file 08:13 < coob> and decodes to a raw pcm file 08:13 < coob> i'm trying to run it on the ipod 08:15 < EvilDude> well then it's screwed :( 08:16 < coob> trting with a different mp3 08:17 < EvilDude> please work.. *crosses fingers* 08:18 < EvilDude> it would be the actual decoding library that has a problem wouldn't it 08:19 < coob> not neccesarily 08:20 < coob> -rw-r--r-- 1 owl owl 194K 5 Apr 09:02 libmp3codecfixpt.a 08:20 < coob> -rwxr-xr-x 1 owl owl 94K 5 Apr 09:02 mp3dec 08:20 < EvilDude> hmm 08:20 < coob> maybe it didn't understand static compilation :) 08:20 < EvilDude> haha 08:20 < EvilDude> very likely 08:20 < EvilDude> unless gcc has like super optimizatiopn and compression :P 08:21 < coob> hmm or not 08:21 < coob> cause 08:21 < coob> it's fucking running 08:21 < coob> on another mp3 file 08:21 < coob> wooooo 08:21 < coob> wonder how i cna play this :) 08:21 < coob> quite quick too, only a small file tho 08:22 < EvilDude> hahaha cool 08:22 < EvilDude> crossing fingers helped perhaps :P :D 08:22 < EvilDude> how long did it take altogether? 08:23 < coob> i dunno 08:23 < coob> maybe 20 seconds 08:23 < coob> but this is an mp3.. from a mobile phone 08:23 < coob> heh 08:23 < coob> its some woman singing 'ring ring ring' 08:23 < EvilDude> rofl 08:23 < coob> i'll add some profiling stuff to the wrapper 08:24 < EvilDude> well 20 seconds for what a 5 second file though? 08:24 < EvilDude> that might turn out to be worse than libmad =\ 08:24 < coob> nah the file's longer than that 08:24 < EvilDude> ah ok good 08:24 < EvilDude> and it's also writing the file so that might make it a little slower 08:26 < coob> hm it's not playing :/ 08:27 < EvilDude> yet it played like a min ago =\ 08:27 -!- will` [~will@adsl-66-123-202-173.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:27 < coob> no 08:27 < coob> the pcm's not playing 08:27 < EvilDude> ohh 08:28 < EvilDude> if it creates a PCM that is in size or length proportional the mp3 length that it decoded we can assume decoder is working mostly :P 08:29 < coob> heh scarily i think podzilla would play this 08:29 < coob> as it plays raw pcm no? 08:30 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/test.pcm <-- try and play that 08:30 < EvilDude> it plays WAV now 08:30 < EvilDude> ok 08:31 < courtc> TiVo file format detected. 08:31 < EvilDude> Error opening from every program so far =\ 08:31 < EvilDude> lol 08:32 < coob> lool 08:32 < coob> the testwrapper is just dumping the raw output strema 08:32 < EvilDude> hmm it can't be that hard to add a WAV header i manager to make podzilla do that :P 08:32 < EvilDude> yeah 08:32 < coob> cat test.pcm > /dev/dsp ? :) 08:32 < EvilDude> haha let's see 08:32 < courtc> sounds like shit 08:33 < EvilDude> well courtc managed it then i guess 08:33 < EvilDude> what's wrong with it 08:33 < courtc> no recognizable anything 08:33 < EvilDude> ooh 08:33 < EvilDude> fun =\ 08:33 < EvilDude> could be playing at wrong samplerate, bitrate or something.. ? 08:34 < coob> :/ 08:34 < courtc> not unless it started out as a recording of screeching 08:34 < coob> try playing with it in sox perhaps 08:34 < coob> lol 08:43 < coob> hahah bollocks 08:43 < coob> i got it to play 08:43 < coob> but it sounded like a chipmunk 08:44 < coob> mplayer -vo null -rawaudio on test.pcm 08:44 < coob> try that 08:45 < EvilDude> coob: but it's actually the original song just sped up ? 08:45 < coob> yes 08:45 < coob> file is 11 secs long 08:45 < coob> i'll stopwatch time it on the ipod 08:45 < coob> ...later 08:46 < coob> i have to be in school 08:46 < coob> 10 minutes ago 08:46 < courtc> haha! 08:47 < EvilDude> hahaha 08:47 < EvilDude> well that's great at least it works :D 08:47 < EvilDude> and it decoded more than 11 seconds of stuff then in 20 seconds ;) not bad 08:49 < coob> 28 seconds :/ 08:49 < coob> that included buffering though i think? 08:49 < EvilDude> =\ still ok 08:49 < EvilDude> unless bitrate of that song is like < 128 08:49 < coob> lol it's 64kbps 08:50 < courtc> mplayer -vo null -rawaudio on:rate=24000 test.raw 08:50 < coob> hmmm i don't like that blip. 08:50 < coob> anyway 08:51 < EvilDude> ok well back to IPP I say ;) 08:52 < courtc> I'm all for dropping ipp.. 08:52 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/mp3dec.tar.gz <-- have fun, lots of unneeded files in there, i've not had time to prune 08:52 < coob> bbl 08:53 < EvilDude> ok cya boob 08:53 < EvilDude> coob** 08:53 < coob> gee thanks :) 08:53 < EvilDude> :P 08:53 < EvilDude> boobs are a good thing :P 08:54 < EvilDude> courtc: why do you want to drop IPP so much 08:54 < EvilDude> put licensing aside coz their license doesnt make much sense / i havent been bothered to read 08:55 < courtc> you can't just put licensing aside because you haven't read it.. 08:55 < courtc> its not gpl compatible, period. 08:56 < EvilDude> courtc: so even if we make it a module of mpd it's still now allowed =\? 08:57 -!- hyarion [~beer@212.217.173.27] has joined #ipodlinux 08:57 < courtc> sure its allowed.. but people would have to agree to the licence and download it seperatly.. 08:57 < EvilDude> ah 08:57 < EvilDude> that's rather crap 08:59 < courtc> yep, currently podzilla isn't really under a license, because we distribute things under intel's license 08:59 < EvilDude> hmm :( 09:00 < EvilDude> Could it be that Intel IPP is also prebuilt on another compiler which also makes it a lot faster 09:00 < EvilDude> (And if so, could we say build libmad using arm's compiler and then redistribute that file) 09:01 < hyarion> i've used gpl code in my sid program... is this a problem? 09:02 < courtc> it doesn't really matter if ipp was build on an extremely good compiler or coded in asm.. 09:02 < EvilDude> courtc: I'm not talking about the licensing of that anymore ;) 09:03 < EvilDude> I'm assuming IPP is so fast because it's built on a damn good compiler + optimized, so if we got precompiled libmad libraries are we allowed to use them? 09:03 < courtc> hyarion- umm.. not if you are redistributing it under a compatible license.. (assuming the rest of the code is yours) 09:04 < courtc> EvilDude- yes... but i'd be willing to say that the compiler had less to do with it than the code... 09:05 < EvilDude> damn :( 09:11 < hyarion> courtc- im planing to distribute it via podzilla, and if podzilla is under the intel license... 09:12 < courtc> hyarion- no, just the ipp libs and example mp3 player are under the intel license 09:32 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-34-61.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 09:38 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:46 < Friskaddict> courtc: when will there be a new post in the blog; it has been over nearly two months now since last post... 09:47 < courtc> when there is one... it wouldn't be news if it happened on a regularly scheduled basis... 09:47 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjh1-1520.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:48 < Friskaddict> hmm 09:48 < Friskaddict> but maybe just a post with details regarding the progress or something..? i can imagine a lot of people are just as curious as me 10:05 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162174205.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:09 -!- Sayle [~sayle@203.59.137.179] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:18 -!- Ole [~ole@cm-62.179.204.096.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 10:24 < Ole> is there a way to restore my ipod if i accidentally ran rm -Rf /mnt/ipod ? 10:48 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:55 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:56 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:05 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162188162.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjh1-1520.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:25 < Sayle> ole, you could always use dd to put a new image on the ipod partition 11:28 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:58 < Ole> Sayle: any idea where I can find a new image? 12:01 < hyarion> cant you use the restore utillity from the ipod cd? 12:02 < Ole> it won't to connect to any computer, only boots up to Disk Mode... 12:05 < Ole> and in Disk Mode, all i get is "OK to disconnect, even though it's not connected 12:05 < hyarion> strange... 12:06 < hyarion> did you mount it? :P 12:06 < Ole> this is all dmesg gets: 12:06 < Ole> ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting... 12:06 < Ole> ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a270002111212] 12:06 < Ole> ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 12:07 < Ole> ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 12:07 < Ole> ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a270002111212] 12:10 < hyarion> you could open up the pod, take out the harddrive and connect it some other way... but i think there is a better way to fix it :D 12:10 < Ole> there should be! 12:24 < coob> use usb 12:24 < coob> much more stable 12:24 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:24 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:32 -!- hyarion [~beer@212.217.173.27] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:34 < Ole> when in Disk Mode, what should I be able to do? 12:35 < EvilDude> not much 12:35 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:37 -!- Ole [~ole@cm-62.179.204.096.chello.no] has quit ["leaving"] 12:38 < coob> ..use it as a disk. 12:40 -!- tlg [~tlg@3-243.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:40 < pacroon> I've gotten a little further :) But the firmware is corrupting (or at least im getting exclamationmark-folder-error) so I guess Im screwing up the partitioning or the fs-installation :< 13:07 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:09 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95327E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:22 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEB1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:33 -!- hyarion [~beer@212.217.173.27] has joined #ipodlinux 13:36 -!- hyarion [~beer@212.217.173.27] has quit [Client Quit] 13:36 * tanq yawns 13:51 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD9E5767A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:56 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD9E5767A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:56 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD9E5767A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:00 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95327E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 -!- Sneaker- [~sneaker@a193-229-100-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [" imekää munaa kaikki perkele"] 14:03 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 14:11 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a193-229-100-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 14:11 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-38-35.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:21 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD9E5767A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 14:26 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-33-169-55.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:41 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:54 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162188162.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:02 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162188162.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:20 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-0205.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:24 < BleuLlama> yo 15:28 < tanq> yo-yo 15:29 < tanq> the best part of waking up is $tarbuck$ in your cup 15:29 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:29 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162188162.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 15:34 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:35 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 15:46 < tanq> has anyone tried last nights build? 15:49 < BleuLlama> i did a build of podzilla from cvs around 0800 GMT 15:50 < BleuLlama> (with my mikmod stuff integrated in, as well as some other things -- iPobble, SubHunt, Vortex (demo), etc. 15:53 < Luke> hey all 15:53 < tanq> whet gen is your ipod BleuLlama 15:53 < BleuLlama> 1g and 4g 15:53 < BleuLlama> 2.5g i guess. heh 15:53 < tanq> is sound working yet 15:53 < BleuLlama> my 4g is untouched for iPl, 1g is playing mods right now. :D 15:53 < BleuLlama> i'm waiting for the full 4g release before i install it on my 4g 15:54 < tanq> i need more embedded knowledge and more linux kernel knowledge.. 15:55 < tanq> i went to barnes and noble because i seem to be google impaired when it comes to kernel programming info that i want.. 15:55 < tanq> there's only a couple of ok books that I wouldn't pay money for. heh 15:56 < tanq> althought there is a good embedded book that i wish i would have bought.. i'll wait for them to get that one back in stock 16:00 < BleuLlama> I think i want to add a graphics-only (no text) displayer for my mikmod engine. hmmm 16:00 < tanq> heh.. 16:01 < tanq> i think i'm going to compile a new toolchain sometime today.. 16:01 < BleuLlama> okay... why? 16:01 < tanq> well i'm getting different issues when i use arm-elf vs arm-linux 16:02 < tanq> when i thought that they were virtually the same thing 16:11 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:12 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:12 < coob> yep, i don't think it'd be too different to the current ipp setup 16:12 < coob> er 16:18 < BleuLlama> http://patsy.cis.rit.edu/Software/iPod/2005-04-04_mikmod/mik.jpg 16:18 < BleuLlama> :D 16:18 < coob> nice 16:18 < BleuLlama> (plopped the ipod onto a scanner) 16:18 * coob concentrates on getting real music to play :P 16:19 < BleuLlama> have fun with that. 16:19 < BleuLlama> :) 16:19 < BleuLlama> i just need to get vortex done, and i'm done with ipl. hehe 16:21 < hyarion> BlueLlama- .mik is the playlist format, right? 16:21 < BleuLlama> yeo 16:21 < BleuLlama> yep 16:22 < BleuLlama> i based the final playback engine vaguely on the code you sent me. what you sent me didn't work out-of-the-box, but it gave me a good place to start.. thanks again 16:22 < BleuLlama> hyar: i documented the hell out of getting it working in the readme... 16:22 < BleuLlama> :) 16:23 < coob> BleuLlama: is there a better way to calculate the width of the vectorfont strings when teh scale is a double? 16:25 < BleuLlama> hmm. why not strlen( string ) * 8 * scale ? 16:25 < BleuLlama> (most of the font fits in 8 units wide, i believe) 16:26 < coob> doesn't take kerning into account :/ 16:26 < BleuLlama> strlen( string ) * (8 + kern) * scale 16:29 -!- carote44 [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 16:31 -!- Sayle [~sayle@203.59.137.179] has quit ["I am going away"] 16:34 < hyarion> is there any stereo support in mods? 16:37 < hyarion> bluellama, or why is the base only on right channel?(it would be nice to have some sort of mono alternative) :) 16:39 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:40 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 17:03 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:11 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 17:24 -!- tlg [~tlg@3-243.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:24 < BleuLlama> mods are all stereo 17:25 < BleuLlama> the thing is that by default channels 0, and 2 are in the left, and 1, and 3 are in the right... to make them sound right to the amiga original 17:25 < BleuLlama> i'll be putting in stereo separation controls, mono/stereo playback, etc. settings, but for now, you get raw mods. 17:25 < BleuLlama> later mods have panning and such, btu the original amiga hardware didn't have that. 17:27 < davidc__> ay all 17:27 < coob> heya davidc 17:27 < coob> davidc: -> dev 17:28 < BleuLlama> heyas 17:29 -!- tlg [~tlg@60-232.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < BleuLlama> coob; btw, you can grab the latest vectorfont.c out of my mikpodzilla .gz 17:30 < BleuLlama> (you were asking about it last night, right?) 17:30 < BleuLlama> i need to add more puctuation... 17:30 < coob> great thanks 17:30 < BleuLlama> i need dashes in the very least. 17:30 < BleuLlama> if you think of anythign else you want in there, let me know 17:34 -!- MacnaM [~MacnaM@dyndsl-080-228-179-111.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #iPodLinux 17:35 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 17:36 -!- MacnaM [~MacnaM@dyndsl-080-228-179-111.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 17:38 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:39 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 17:47 -!- budgie_ [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 17:49 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:49 -!- budgie_ is now known as budgie 17:56 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:06 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 -!- mexacc [~mexacc@host80-4.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has joined #ipodlinux 18:08 -!- mexacc [~mexacc@host80-4.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:31 -!- Petterminator [p@56.180.32.ip.nordiq.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:35 < pacroon> Is the ipod userland up to date? When I try doing that part my ipod always fails to boot 18:40 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:42 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532279.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:42 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532279.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:59 < tanq> weird.. i can't get my ipod to work now.. 18:59 < tanq> well i can't the fw to do anyhting 18:59 < tanq> i tried todays and then i went back to yesterdays build and its stuck at the logo 19:08 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm65-221-47-234.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:12 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@81-1-67-138.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:12 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:16 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit ["leaving"] 19:18 < pacroon> courtc: I'm not sure that partitiong trick you gave me yesterday works 19:19 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has joined #ipodlinux 19:24 < pacroon> Hey it worked, now I just have that contast problem, and I cant see it in another angle.. 19:25 < pacroon> Anybody know the keys by head? :P 19:28 < coob> 2 right 19:28 < coob> select 19:28 < coob> 4 right 19:28 < coob> click 19:29 < coob> adjust. 19:29 < coob> shine a bright light on it 19:29 < pacroon> Right by scrolling og clicking? 19:30 < coob> scrolling. 19:30 < pacroon> Gonna be tough, im going in! 19:33 < pacroon> er, wait.. Ive made the 'finising up' things and now its taking about respawning to fast 19:34 < coob> chmod 755 bin/podzilla 19:35 < pacroon> Okay 19:35 < BleuLlama> (I *did* add that to the wiki, btw) 19:35 < pacroon> I chmod +x'ed 19:35 < pacroon> oh, i didn't this time 19:36 < pacroon> Wow.. :) 19:49 < tanq> soo 19:49 < tanq> that was weird... 19:50 < tanq> its time to try my kvm again.. i think i had messed something else up yesterday.. 19:50 < tanq> podzilla gave me the same error.. so i reimaged sda3 19:50 < tanq> seems to work now so i'll try to run the kvm again.. 20:08 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD95F3906.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 -!- Jack_MD_ [~Jack_MD@pD95F3906.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:26 < tanq> I thought i heard someone say that nightly builds are more current than anonymous cvs.. is that true? 20:33 < BleuLlama> man. i like having discussions like that. I walk into his office to say "hey, check this out", and i leave with a credit card number and the phrase "keep it as close to $1000 without going over" 20:35 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:36 -!- Luke_ [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:37 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:37 -!- Luke_ is now known as luke 20:37 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o luke ] by ChanServ 20:37 -!- luke is now known as Luke 20:38 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 20:41 < hyarion> where is it recommended to save configuration files on ipl? 20:41 < BleuLlama> no one has set that up. 20:41 < BleuLlama> seems like most apps are putting stuff in / 20:41 < courtc> /etc 20:42 < BleuLlama> but yeah, i'd say /etc/podzilla/ 20:42 < courtc> or /home 20:42 < BleuLlama> yeah /home is a good one 20:43 < hyarion> and if you have to choose just one... :) 20:43 < courtc> what app? 20:43 < BleuLlama> mkdir /etc/podzilla/yourAppName/ 20:43 < BleuLlama> ;) 20:44 < courtc> unless its not a part of podzilla.. 20:44 < BleuLlama> i'm going to need to have conf files and playlists and such stored someplace soon... 20:44 < hyarion> I was thinking of creating som sort of conf file for sidplay 20:44 * BleuLlama nods 20:44 < courtc> /etc/sidplay.conf 20:44 < BleuLlama> hyarion: you've integrated sidplay into podzilla? 20:45 < hyarion> almost 20:45 < Petterminator> Playlists and user conffiles in /home, default conffiles in /etc 20:45 * BleuLlama points at courtc 20:45 < hyarion> its buggy 20:45 < BleuLlama> what bugs are you seeing? 20:45 < BleuLlama> behavioral things, or sidplay-bug things? 20:45 < hyarion> behavioral things 20:46 < BleuLlama> i'm seeing things like sometimes pause doesn't work right, sometimes left and right trigger multiple events (i'm using podzilla's debouncing...) 20:46 < BleuLlama> i was seeing a crash *sometimes* when coming back to the podzilla menu, but i've figured that one out. :) 20:47 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:47 < hyarion> is mikmod suposed to play every track twice? 20:47 -!- coob [~cube@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 < BleuLlama> no. should play once, or loop forever... 20:48 < BleuLlama> (tempest 2000 mods loop forver) 20:49 -!- Daishi [~daishi@pool-162-84-190-133.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:50 < hyarion> could it have anything to do with that i have a playlist containing only one tune? 20:50 < BleuLlama> haha. yep 20:50 < BleuLlama> i haven't tested what happens at the end of a playlist yet. 20:50 -!- Petterminator is now known as P|Gone 20:50 < BleuLlama> i guess it repeats 20:50 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@81-1-67-138.homechoice.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:51 < BleuLlama> i'm going to need to exercise that soon though. my file-browser mod-launcher will create a playlist of one song, and launch that. 20:51 < BleuLlama> i'll fix that soon. 20:51 * BleuLlama notes the issue 20:51 < BleuLlama> thanks. heh. 20:53 -!- FrIkI [~antoni@62-43-4-93.user.ono.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- MacnaM [~MacnaM@dyndsl-080-228-179-111.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #iPodLinux 20:54 < hyarion> could it be possible to change browser.c, so it can be used from some other app too? 20:54 < BleuLlama> yep. 20:54 < BleuLlama> make mikmod or sidplay the 'main' app as it were? 20:55 < BleuLlama> and then browser.c is like a function call 'get me a file', like a file dialogue box in a dekstop os? 20:55 < hyarion> yep, exactly 20:55 < BleuLlama> i was just gonna stick with the current paradigm, actually though. it's easier. ;) 20:55 < courtc> umm... kinda... It'd have to build against mlist and some other stuff... we arent really to the point where we can have a seperate filebrowser yet.. give it some time 20:56 < BleuLlama> i still need to put in a few list-view thingies though... list out all of the instruments, and let the user scroll through them, and list the songs in the playlist, to let the user select a new one to jump to... 20:57 < BleuLlama> i'm also considering putting in a 5x3 font for text display. or 5x8 or something tiny like that 20:57 < BleuLlama> although, right now i think i have a 4x8 font in there (vector font) 20:58 < BleuLlama> but i dunno if drawing lines is quicker or slower than drawing pixels... *shrug* i haven't done any tests with it 21:02 < coob> df 21:04 < BleuLlama> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on 21:04 < BleuLlama> /dev/hda3 34313960 26647700 5923208 82% / 21:05 < BleuLlama> % 21:05 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@81-1-67-138.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 21:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 21:05 < BleuLlama> heh. looking through mikmod docs, and i just found out that my friend's work on mikmod isn't even in there anymore... (The GUS driver. heh) 21:16 < Chernobyl> oh man... i love watching fat kids run around in Red Sox jerseys acting tough while trying to pull up their pants and panting because they are out of breath from throwing a football 21:17 < coob> and this has what to do with ipod linux? 21:18 < courtc> I'm not seeing the connection 21:19 < Chernobyl> srry 21:19 < Chernobyl> i was think typing 21:19 < Chernobyl> i live next to skool and that is exactly waht is going on over there 21:20 < Chernobyl> or well a skool 21:20 < Chernobyl> not my skool 21:23 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:27 -!- tlg [~tlg@60-232.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 21:31 -!- MacnaM [~MacnaM@dyndsl-080-228-179-111.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #iPodLinux [] 21:36 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:48 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["out"] 21:50 -!- sonictooth [~spiked@81-208-74-182.fastres.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:52 < sonictooth> hello 21:53 < hyarion> hi 21:55 < sonictooth> i was wondering whether i can help with porting the kernel to 4g... i see in the bug list (bugzilla?) that it is assigned to a guy 21:58 < coob> flyspray 21:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 21:59 < sonictooth> maybe i should try to close an unassigned bug first... 22:00 < leachbj> sonictooth, you might want to take a look at the input weirdness on 4g 22:01 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 22:01 < sonictooth> yes, that what i was looking for 22:01 < sonictooth> (that _was_ ...) 22:02 < sonictooth> i'll see what i can d 22:02 < sonictooth> okay, back to work 22:02 < sonictooth> see you 22:02 -!- sonictooth [~spiked@81-208-74-182.fastres.net] has quit ["Sto andando via"] 22:03 -!- FrIkI [~antoni@62-43-4-93.user.ono.com] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 22:06 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:12 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@81-1-67-138.homechoice.co.uk] has quit ["Client exiting"] 22:12 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit ["zZzZzZz"] 22:12 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:13 -!- carote44 [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 22:40 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:43 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:44 -!- danalien is now known as princeofdarkness 22:44 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:45 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-0205.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:50 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 22:50 < davidc__> 'ay all 22:50 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:53 -!- budgie [~undef@budgie.user] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:56 < pacroon> hey 22:56 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 23:08 -!- davidc__ [~chatzilla@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]"] 23:10 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:14 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:20 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:20 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:31 < pacroon> When I try to play something I'm told that audioplayback not is available.. on regular mp3 files 23:31 < pacroon> well, unsupported really 23:32 < courtc> and you have a 4g/mini/photo right? 23:32 < pacroon> yes 23:32 < courtc> well.. thats because its unsupported... 23:32 < pacroon> really 23:32 < pacroon> No playback yet? :) 23:33 < courtc> no audio support on 4g ipods 23:33 < pacroon> Oh! Im sorry! 23:33 < pacroon> I really thought that, that at least was working :) 23:34 < davidc__> nope. 23:34 < pacroon> Well at least I know how to install it not :) 23:34 < davidc__> Thats why we've got no 4g release yet 23:34 < pacroon> now * 23:34 < davidc__> pacroon what was wrong? 23:34 < pacroon> davidc__: I actually don't really know.. i tried messing around with the partitions a bit and that stuff, and then it worked 23:35 -!- Sliverque [~giveitup@207.88.213.20.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:35 < pacroon> For some reason my partition 1 was not 1-33 but 1-5 23:35 < pacroon> cylinders, I think it wa 23:35 < pacroon> s 23:36 < courtc> yea, because you have a mini.. 23:36 < Sliverque> I was using the recently made viPodzilla and for some reason the games with large animation content, like pong, aren't working. I saw errors on the command line about nano-x, so is there a way to "fix" nano-x? 23:36 < pacroon> courtc: I do have a regular...! 23:36 < Sliverque> I've had issues with slow nano-x before... 23:37 < courtc> Sliverque- viPodzilla is unsupported 23:37 < davidc__> Sliverque try a standard build. viPodzilla is not an official build, and it contains a lot of semi-broken and broken patches 23:37 < davidc__> Sliverque: its just done by a guy in the forums, not by one of us devs 23:37 < pacroon> When holding-down-play wont shut it down, is there something else I can do? Would making a shutdown command in uclinux work? 23:38 < davidc__> er, its not just play 23:38 < davidc__> its a two key combo 23:38 < pacroon> really? my apple-thing shuts down when holding play 23:38 < courtc> pacroon- no, there is no power management under linux 23:38 < davidc__> pacroon: Thats an apple feature 23:38 < Sliverque> I know it's not official and stuff 23:39 < pacroon> oh 23:39 < Sliverque> but it works, and it did work at first. 23:39 < pacroon> I see 23:39 < davidc__> Sliverque: Try an official build. If that fixes the problem, we'll work on it... otherwise, talk to whoever runs the vipodzilla tree 23:39 < courtc> Sliverque- obviously not... :/ 23:39 < Sliverque> ok 23:39 < davidc__> er, if that *doesn't fix the problem. we'll work on it 23:40 < Sliverque> funny thing though, once I had viewed several large web pages in browser, they all worked! 23:40 < Sliverque> but only for a while 23:40 < davidc__> if its just vipodzillas problem we couldn't give a fuck ;) 23:40 < Sliverque> are you at odds with the vipodzilla person? 23:40 < Sliverque> oh, and supported newest is the "newest ipodlinux beta"? 23:41 < courtc> no, we just don't like supporting broken code... 23:42 < courtc> Sliverque- we'll support anything that came from cvs... 23:42 < courtc> so the nightly, beta, and cvs 23:42 < Sliverque> and why the heck was the binary saved as a .txt file...? 23:42 < Sliverque> wait, what's different between beta and cvs? 23:43 < courtc> beta is a semi-monthly build, cvs is updated daily.. 23:43 < Sliverque> where is cvs? 23:44 < davidc__> Sliverque we have nothing against the vipodzilla person. It just is an extremely bleeding edge beta, even more so then the nightlys... 23:44 < Sliverque> jhust on sourceforge? 23:44 < davidc__> Sliverque just grab a nightly. its more up to date then you'll get from anoncvs 23:44 < Sliverque> ok 23:44 < Sliverque> are the nightly fraught with problems? 23:44 < courtc> nope.. cvs stays pretty clean... 23:45 < davidc__> otherwise leachbj comes after us with weapons of developer destruction 23:45 < Sliverque> :) 23:46 < Sliverque> another problem yet again... 23:46 < Sliverque> the .asc file won't save! 23:47 < Sliverque> I like my readmes... 23:47 < davidc__> Sliverque: the asc file is a signature 23:47 < davidc__> Sliverque: unless you like reading gpg output 23:47 < Sliverque> oh 23:47 < Sliverque> last time I grabbed a file with .asc it was a readme 23:48 < Sliverque> how do I "sign" it? 23:49 < davidc__> you don't 23:49 < Sliverque> ?? 23:49 < davidc__> if you're really paranoid you could grab the public key once and check all future builds against it 23:50 < davidc__> basically, its a way of verifying its an official build... 23:50 < davidc__> incase someone comes out with an ipodrootkit or something 23:50 < Sliverque> wait, it's like the md5 keys? 23:50 < davidc__> Sliverque: its a sha-1 of the file signed with the build script private key 23:58 < Luke> does anyone know the lp option to print multiple copies? 23:58 < courtc> -n copies 23:59 < Luke> thanks court 23:59 < courtc> yup --- Log closed Wed Apr 06 00:00:00 2005