--- Log opened Tue Mar 29 00:00:03 2005 00:00 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:00 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 00:00 < Capso> CLiDE: The newest one. 00:01 < CLiDE> 2G? 00:01 < coob> just wait a while... 00:01 < CLiDE> Sweet, the battery life is killer. 00:03 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 00:08 -!- dezent [dezent@81-226-213-37-no29.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:09 < Capso> Are the 4th Generations only $50 more than the iPod Minis? 00:10 < coob> www.apple.com/store 00:10 < Vanquisher> apple minis are crap 00:10 < coob> they're great. 00:11 < Vanquisher> no 00:11 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 < Vanquisher> they are a pathetic waste of fucking money 00:11 < Vanquisher> u pay the same just about for 4 gigs when u could have 20 00:11 < Vanquisher> its NOT that much smaller 00:11 < coob> it is. 00:11 < Vanquisher> no its not 00:12 < Vanquisher> lol 00:12 < coob> and lighter 00:12 < coob> and the battery lasts longer. 00:12 < coob> and it's cuter. 00:12 < Vanquisher> coob, oh boy 00:12 < Vanquisher> coob, what if u have more than 4gigs of music 00:12 < Vanquisher> :] 00:12 < coob> if you think it's a waste of money, don't buy one. 00:12 < Capso> How much more do you pay for the 20 Gigs and which Generation is it? 00:12 < Vanquisher> coob, i didnt, i bought a photo 00:12 < coob> then shuttup. 00:12 < Vanquisher> coob, as u have seen my matrix :) 00:12 < coob> if other people want to buy one let them. 00:13 < Vanquisher> Capso, its like 299 for a 20 gig 4G 00:13 < dezent> hello.. i know this is ipodlinux-channel but ill try my luck anyway.. my gf got a 4g-ipod 20gb and (i gave it to her tonight) after we connected it to her laptop running ubnuntu-linux it just show the apple icon then it says "do not disconnect" and att last a folder-icon with an "!" ... and it makes a clicking sound like its restarting all the time 00:13 < Vanquisher> i have a 40GIG photo 00:13 < Vanquisher> :) 00:13 < coob> dezent: i have that problem with my 4g 00:13 < Capso> I have a 4Gig for $199. 00:13 < Vanquisher> dezent, firmware is fried 00:13 < coob> it comes and goes.. but you're probably best off returning the ipod. 00:13 < Vanquisher> dezent, go to windows and restore the firmware 00:13 < coob> Vanquisher: it's often not. 00:13 < dezent> coob: it sux dosnt it ? 00:13 < Capso> I don't think Circuit City will take it back if it's already opened, will they? 00:13 < Vanquisher> coob, try that first always though 00:14 < coob> it does indeed 00:14 < CLiDE> I have a beat up 15GB 3G that I payed nothing for. :) 00:14 < dezent> Vanquisher: windows ? 00:14 < Vanquisher> dezent, no kidding 00:14 < dezent> Vanquisher: i got a powerbook with osx 00:14 < coob> your ipod will eventually work if you leave it/fiddle with it by resetting 00:14 < Vanquisher> dezent, then use their restore thing 00:14 < coob> Vanquisher: you don't know what you're talking about... if the hd wont spin up you can't restore 00:15 < dezent> Vanquisher: it reboots all the time.. no chance to mount it 00:15 < coob> dezent: you're probably best off returning the ipod at an apple store/whereever you bought it 00:15 < coob> unless you're prepared to fiddle with it :/ 00:15 < coob> (a lot) 00:16 < coob> dezent: you should be able to reset (centre button and menu) then hold rewind and centre to get to diagnostics mode 00:16 < coob> then do a HDD scan 00:16 < dezent> coob: hmm do you know a solution ? 00:16 < coob> and it'll take about 30-40mins 00:16 < dezent> hmm ok 00:16 < coob> (plug it in) 00:16 < Capso> Do any of you guys know much about the Circuit City Return Policy? 00:16 < dezent> ok 00:16 < Capso> Know if they take back opened iPods? 00:16 < coob> Capso: complain until they take it back, don't take no for answer. 00:17 < coob> say it fell apart. 00:17 < Capso> Eh. 00:17 < coob> dezent: that won't fix it though 00:17 < Capso> Coob: I'm serious here. 00:17 < coob> sometimes if i run the battery right down it'll spin up normally 00:17 < coob> it seems to be an intermittent hw fault on 4gs :/ 00:17 < coob> Capso: so am I 00:17 < coob> if you kick up enough of a fuss 00:17 < dezent> coob: hm 00:17 < coob> they'll take it back just to shut you up 00:18 < dezent> coob: it done that once 00:18 < coob> when in doubt, ask for the manager and complain louder. 00:18 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 00:18 < dezent> coob: just sounded normally.. but it didnt booy 00:18 < dezent> boot 00:18 < coob> dezent yeah it's odd :/ 00:18 < coob> dezent: did you get to diagnostic mode/ 00:18 < coob> ? 00:19 < dezent> coob: not yet 00:19 < dezent> i bought a ipod-photo this weekend =) 00:19 < dezent> thats the good side of the story 00:20 < coob> lol 00:20 < coob> return the 4g, get her a pink mini :) 00:20 < Vanquisher> dezent, ur drive is fucked 00:20 < Vanquisher> dezent, that happened to my 4g 00:21 < Vanquisher> i mean 2g 00:21 < Vanquisher> HD just went 00:21 < Vanquisher> it was a sad day in my life 00:21 < dezent> Vanquisher: aah 00:21 < dezent> Vanquisher: ok 00:21 < Vanquisher> dezent, does it click 00:22 < Vanquisher> dezent, make a clicking noise 00:22 < Vanquisher> ? 00:22 < dezent> yes 00:22 < Vanquisher> its the drive 00:22 < dezent> but sometimes it spinns normal 00:22 < Vanquisher> might be the firmware then 00:22 < Vanquisher> MIGHT be but im saying 90% of it is prob the HD is fucked 00:23 < dezent> yes i got that feeling to.. but then it might be a chance.. because it happend exactly when i inserted it into my gf´s linuxbox 00:24 -!- tlg_ [~tlg@184-220.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < Vanquisher> dezent, welll 00:25 < Vanquisher> dezent, that really...shouldnt matter 00:25 < Vanquisher> lol 00:25 < Vanquisher> dezent, i mean the HD goes, it goes 00:27 < dezent> Vanquisher: yes 00:27 < Vanquisher> :) 00:27 < Vanquisher> dezent, http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/Ipod/dscn1570.jpg 00:27 < Vanquisher> dezent, matrix on my photo 00:28 < Vanquisher> dezent, it should be green, new apple firmware b0rked with the colors 00:28 < dezent> Vanquisher: i get some strange gfx-problem with my photos aswell 00:28 < Vanquisher> dezent, u have a photo? 00:29 < dezent> Vanquisher: why i still got hope about the disk is 1. it spinns normal sometimes 2. it does some reading for about 2 secs before the click 00:29 < Vanquisher> dezent, i think its half way between dead 00:29 < Vanquisher> dezent, like a pergatory for HD's 00:29 < dezent> Vanquisher: yes i was on jersey setting up a site this weekend so i bought a photo.. really cheap 00:30 < dezent> yes maybe 00:30 < dezent> i wont give up untill i know 00:30 < Vanquisher> dezent, how big? 00:30 < dezent> Vanquisher: 30GB 00:30 < dezent> Vanquisher: the 40GB was almost 100£ more 00:31 < dezent> or was it 60 ? 00:31 < dezent> hmm 00:31 < dezent> dont remember 00:31 < Vanquisher> dezent, i have a 40GIG 00:31 < Vanquisher> dezent, it was prob the 60 00:31 < dezent> thats nice 00:31 < dezent> gow did you do the matrix-stuff ? 00:31 < dezent> how 00:31 < Vanquisher> dezent, it was 40GIG and 60 GIG photo........they knocked off the 40 gig models all together, so now its 30GIG 00:31 < Vanquisher> dezent, ipodlinux :) 00:32 < dezent> Vanquisher: on a photo ? 00:32 < dezent> wee =) 00:32 < Vanquisher> yes 00:32 < Vanquisher> :))) 00:32 < dezent> sweet ! 00:32 < Vanquisher> dezent, u want a video 00:32 < dezent> yes please 00:32 < Vanquisher> dezent, i shot a video of me playing with some settings 00:32 < Vanquisher> lol 00:32 -!- tlg [~tlg@113-226.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:32 < dezent> =) 00:32 < dezent> cool 00:32 < Vanquisher> shows the matrix moving :) 00:33 < dezent> do you got aalib ? 00:33 < Vanquisher> dezent, http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/Ipod/iplphoto.mov 00:33 < Vanquisher> err its .mov 00:33 < Vanquisher> i dont know if u can play that 00:33 < Vanquisher> but oh well 00:33 * coob wrote the matrix stuff... 00:33 < dezent> why ? 00:33 * Vanquisher applauds coob 00:33 < Vanquisher> coob, then maybe u can tell me why mine is red 00:33 < dezent> im using my powerbook with osx now 00:33 < Vanquisher> dezent, download it :) 00:34 < dezent> sweet ! 00:34 < coob> sounds like a problem witht eh video code, which I don't touch. wait for leachbj to get back. 00:34 < dezent> Vanquisher: im watching it 00:34 < Vanquisher> dezent, :))) 00:34 < Vanquisher> dezent, sweet right 00:34 < dezent> very cool ! 00:34 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/pz-colour.html <-- if you have flash, thats what the matrix stuff is supposed to look like 00:34 < coob> dezent: thanks. 00:34 < dezent> the gfx.. is it svgalib or what ? 00:35 < coob> microwindows 00:35 < dezent> ok 00:37 < Vanquisher> coob, fix my problem? 00:37 < Vanquisher> :) 00:37 < Vanquisher> please 00:37 < Vanquisher> coob, whats ur highest tetris score? 00:37 < dezent> coob: now it says "IRAMPASS HITPLAY CONTINUE" 00:38 < coob> hit play :) 00:38 < dezent> i did 00:38 < dezent> now i got a menu 00:39 < joecool> Vanquisher: you never did this ^^ 00:39 < Vanquisher> joecool, ? 00:39 < joecool> Vanquisher: reset your upod and hold rewind and select at the same time :P 00:39 < joecool> err ipod 00:39 < coob> then scroll to hdd scan 00:39 < coob> using >>| 00:39 < coob> Vanquisher: i've already told you I can;t. 00:39 < coob> is the scan running? 00:40 < Vanquisher> joecool, why? 00:40 < dezent> what does the options do ? 00:40 < joecool> Vanquisher: dialog mode :P 00:40 < joecool> have fun 00:40 < Vanquisher> joecool, wtf 00:40 < Vanquisher> ? 00:40 < coob> dezent, hit >>| till you get to HDD SCAN 00:40 < Vanquisher> dialog mode 00:40 < joecool> Vanquisher: just do it.. its pretty cool 00:40 < dezent> coob: okie 00:41 < coob> then select... 00:41 < dezent> yepp 00:41 < coob> what does it show... 00:41 < dezent> pass 00:41 < dezent> and now its quit 00:41 < dezent> quiet 00:41 < Vanquisher> joecool, right 00:41 < Vanquisher> joecool, now how do i get out 00:42 < coob> i think you got the wrong option 00:42 < dezent> coob: "hdd scan" 00:42 < coob> it should show HDD SCAN 00:42 < coob> START . . . . 00:42 < coob> then take ages (like 20 mins) 00:42 < coob> then show PASS or FAIL 00:43 < dezent> aha i dosnt just pass.. 00:43 < dezent> maybe its dead anyway ? 00:43 < coob> 'idoesnt just pass'? 00:43 -!- dsh-1 [~daishi@pool-162-84-156-74.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:44 < coob> Vanquisher: i dunno, i can get stupid scores on tetris now i implimented pause with the hold switch 00:44 * coob remember to add that to cvs 00:44 < Vanquisher> :O 00:44 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:44 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 00:44 < Vanquisher> coob, please do 00:44 < coob> i want to fix something else first... 00:44 < dezent> coob: im trying hd rw test now 00:45 < coob> that should go straight past :/ 00:46 * dezent cant sleep.. quitting my job tomorrow =) 00:46 < dezent> or telling my boss im quitting =) 00:46 < Daishi> i was wondering if anyone knows if an iPodPhoto can also read album art info from id3 tags if i set them with something like Album Cover Art downloader, im asking here because you seem to be the only people with info on the ArtworkDB i know theres windows programs that use iTunes to do this but they take over a day or so 00:47 < Vanquisher> coob, like my photo 00:47 < Vanquisher> coob, u want to fix my color issus 00:47 < Vanquisher> issues* 00:47 < coob> i can't. 00:47 < Vanquisher> :( 00:47 < coob> give me a photo 00:47 < coob> and maybe. 00:47 < coob> until then, shuttup and wait for a fix from leachbj 00:47 < coob> or go back to the old firmware 00:47 < coob> your choice. 00:47 < dezent> Vanquisher: the only thing i dont like with the photo is that its thicker than my 20gb 4g.. but i can live with that 00:48 < Vanquisher> dezent, i had a 2g so, its an upgrade for me 00:48 < Vanquisher> coob, :).. 00:48 < dezent> is there any project on a good va for input from the clickwheel ? like for console 00:48 < dezent> Vanquisher: haha a big one 00:48 < coob> Daishi: nope the apple fw only reads from the artworkdb i believe 00:49 < Vanquisher> dezent, sad though, i loved that 2g 00:49 < Vanquisher> dezent, :( 00:49 < dezent> Vanquisher: :/ 00:49 < Vanquisher> :] 00:49 -!- CLiDE [CLiDE@ip1-193.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:49 < Vanquisher> dezent, the color screen kicks its ass though 00:49 < dezent> Vanquisher: its in ipod-heaven now 00:49 < Vanquisher> hehe 00:49 < dezent> Vanquisher: yes ! its really nice 00:49 < dezent> i didnt get any firewirecable though 00:50 < Vanquisher> :| 00:50 < Vanquisher> rofl 00:50 < Vanquisher> u got jiped 00:50 < Vanquisher> :) 00:50 < Daishi> coob: oo do you know of anything that can write it or has the itunes image format not been reverse-engineered? which would explain why things like iArt use iTunes and take a long time 00:50 < Vanquisher> dezent, u get a dock? 00:50 < dezent> jiped ? 00:50 < dezent> Vanquisher: nope 00:50 < Vanquisher> dezent, ROFL wtf 00:50 < Daishi> im guessing the answer is no though 00:50 < dezent> Vanquisher: just usb-cable 00:50 < Vanquisher> dezent, when i got my 40GIG photo, i got a case, a dock, usb 2.0 cables, firewire cables 00:51 < dezent> Vanquisher: hmm 00:51 < Vanquisher> the dock is sweet 00:51 < Vanquisher> s-video out and a line out 00:51 < Vanquisher> :) 00:51 < dezent> ooh 00:51 < coob> Daishi: afair theres info on the wiki as to the file format 00:51 < coob> i don't know of anything other than itunes that writes to it though 00:51 < Vanquisher> dezent, i use the line out and hook it up to my 400 WATT stereo :) 00:51 < dezent> Vanquisher: i dont think apple ships that stuff with the smallest versions 00:52 < Vanquisher> dezent, well my 40 gig was the smaller of the two at the time 00:52 < dezent> Vanquisher: i got a lineout-cable from my amiga that works fine 00:52 < Vanquisher> apple is getting cheap lol 00:52 < dezent> Vanquisher: and itrip so im ok 00:52 < Vanquisher> dezent, bah itrip, i just use a cassette adaptor 00:52 < Vanquisher> dezent, sounds better 00:52 < coob> Daishi: http://ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB#Artwork_Database 00:53 < dezent> Vanquisher: maybe but itrip is great in the car =) 00:53 < Vanquisher> dezent, thats what i mean 00:53 < Vanquisher> dezent, in the car 00:53 < Vanquisher> dezent, lol 00:53 < dezent> aah 00:53 < dezent> =) 00:53 < Vanquisher> :] 00:53 < dezent> dont have tape in my car 00:53 < Vanquisher> my car radio is ghetto works out good for me 00:53 < Vanquisher> lol 00:53 < Vanquisher> hehe 00:54 * Capso wonders if he should stick with the iPod Mini or get the 20 GB iPod for $299 . 00:54 < Vanquisher> 20 gig 00:54 < Vanquisher> Capso, think about it 4 gigs or 20 gigs 00:54 < Vanquisher> Capso, lol 00:55 < Capso> Well... I ahve the new iPod Mini for $199 from Circuit City (it was a gift)... I've had it for two days, now (got it on Saturday)... 00:55 < dezent> hmm now the 4g is beeping 00:55 < Vanquisher> beeping? 00:55 < Vanquisher> wtf 00:55 < Vanquisher> ive never heared one beep 00:55 < Capso> In that time, I've restored it (upgraded the Firmware as well), tried to install Linux on it, and restored it once again. 00:55 < dezent> strange 00:55 < coob> it's not all about the GBs 00:55 < Vanquisher> coob, i see an overall value 00:56 < Vanquisher> coob, i have like 20gigs of music, so for me its just not the right fit 00:56 < Capso> Would Circuit City even take it back? 00:56 < BleuLlama> it's all about the pentiums 00:56 < Vanquisher> Capso, say something is wrong with it 00:56 < coob> so? i have 100s of gbs 00:56 < Vanquisher> coob, then why settle for less music u could take with you 00:56 < dezent> coob: ill tried the hdd-scan again... it spinns up.. then click spinn up.. then click.. and says pass 00:56 < Vanquisher> coob, for the same price 00:57 < coob> ..cause i only listen to ~5% of my music at a time? 00:57 < Vanquisher> dezent, the HD is semi cooked, sounds like the firmware might be wacked 00:57 < Vanquisher> dezent, if u can restore the firmware if not, then return it 00:57 < Capso> Vanquisher: Me -- I'm not a music kinda guy... I'll put maybe ten, tops eighty songs on it... I'm more of a Code my own thing for it kinda guy... where I wanna be able to Code my own Games/hack Firmware in it and so, I'd really like to put Linux on it... 00:57 < coob> dezent: yeah sounds like your drive is busted, hdd scan shouldn't click. 00:57 < Capso> Now, for THAT reason... 00:57 < dezent> Vanquisher: ok but its older than a year 00:57 < Capso> Which do you think is better for my purposes? 00:57 < Vanquisher> dezent, oh.....i dont know then 00:57 < BleuLlama> capso: sell the mini, buy a 3g 00:57 < dezent> Vanquisher: hmm 00:58 < BleuLlama> or just wait 00:58 < Vanquisher> 3g *shudders* 00:58 < Vanquisher> 2g!! 00:58 < Vanquisher> :)! 00:58 < BleuLlama> your mini *will* be supported by ipl, just in a bit 00:58 < Vanquisher> 2g is supreme 00:58 < dezent> Vanquisher: maybe http://www.command-tab.com/index.php/ipod-super 00:58 < BleuLlama> 1g > 2g 00:58 * Vanquisher smacks BleuLlama 00:58 < Vanquisher> 2g > 1g 00:58 < Vanquisher> :) 00:59 < BleuLlama> um. real wheel trumps touch wheel. EOD. 00:59 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, naw 00:59 < Vanquisher> :) 00:59 < Capso> BleuLlama: Yea... I can wait... but when it IS supported... for my purposes, which is better? 00:59 < Vanquisher> well 00:59 < Vanquisher> more space is nice 01:00 < Capso> How much space does iPodLinux require? 01:00 < Capso> Just itself? 01:00 < BleuLlama> do you want a big screen/disk or small screen/disk? 01:00 < BleuLlama> 30mb tops? 01:00 < Capso> I don't care about the screen size. 01:00 < Capso> I have no problem scrolling. 01:00 < Capso> I just want to be able to Code my own stuff and experiment on it... 01:01 < Capso> Load maybe ten to eighty songs... 01:01 < Capso> Live life. 01:01 < coob> get a shuffle and imagine the screen... 01:01 < BleuLlama> then wait, and stick with what you have, and quiet down. 01:01 < BleuLlama> shuffle has a screen 01:01 < Capso> BleuLlama: Good 'nuff answer for me. 01:01 < Capso> :) 01:01 < BleuLlama> 1 pixel by 1 pixel 01:01 < Z_Man> lol 01:01 < Capso> BleuLlama: Ugh... don't even go there. 01:02 < Capso> But shuffle will NOT be supported by iPodLinux (for obvious reasons)... 01:02 < Capso> So... there's a damp in the logic of me getting it. :) 01:02 < veteran> well, we _say_ that... 01:02 < veteran> just to divert attention 01:02 < Capso> Uh-uh. 01:03 < BleuLlama> i'd still love iPL on a shuffle, running MikMod, or SidPLay or something likr that 01:03 < Capso> Is the actual man Developer of iPodLinux here? 01:03 < coob> Vanquisher: http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-test <-- try that podzilla and see if you still have gfx issues. 01:03 < BleuLlama> man developer 01:03 < BleuLlama> hehehe 01:03 < coob> haha 01:03 < Capso> ? 01:03 < veteran> haha... 01:03 < coob> put the pump down! 01:03 < Capso> I mean, the actual leader of the project. 01:03 * veteran censors coob 01:03 < coob> censor censor censor! 01:04 < veteran> leader of the project 01:04 < BleuLlama> censure 01:04 < coob> Capso: he's away. 01:04 < veteran> hehehe 01:04 < Capso> He's German, I think. 01:04 < Capso> Coob: But does he attend to IRC? 01:04 < veteran> http://ipodlinux.org/User:Leachbj 01:05 < coob> yes. 01:05 < coob> he's not. 01:05 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org/User:BleuLlama 01:05 < dezent> ar 29 02:39:30 Tussilago kernel: IOFireWireController::disablePhyPortOnSleepForNodeID found child 0 01:05 < dezent> Mar 29 02:39:30 Tussilago kernel: IOFireWireController::disablePhyPortOnSleepForNodeID disable port 1 01:05 < dezent> hmm 01:05 < BleuLlama> oh, i need to update that. my new 4g needs its name updated 01:05 < veteran> as long as you use the show preview button 01:06 < dezent> oops 01:06 < Capso> Do you guys actually have files called "User:BleuLlama" or is that equivalent to PHP's $_GET (User?BleuLlama, for instance)? 01:06 < Capso> Cause I'd like to know what Vars that uses. 01:06 < BleuLlama> it's a wiki, capso. 01:07 < BleuLlama> that's a database key. 01:07 < Capso> Yea... 01:07 < Capso> Ahhhhhhhh, okay... 01:07 < BleuLlama> "User:BleuLlama" could be "ILikeToEatCheese" 01:07 < Capso> Why not just use PHP's User? then? 01:07 < BleuLlama> read up on what a wiki does. 01:07 < coob> because it's a wiki. 01:07 < BleuLlama> it's more than just a file. 01:07 < Capso> I mean, I know the Wiki has done it that way... but what's advantageous about User: instead of simply PHP's User? . Heh. 01:08 < BleuLlama> it's not PHP 01:08 < Capso> BleuLlama: I understand that it's also a DataBase. 01:08 < Capso> BleuLlama: Just an example. 01:08 < Capso> No matter... 01:08 < BleuLlama> capso read up on what a wiki does 01:08 < Capso> 'Tis okay. Just a one-time wondering case. 01:09 < Capso> Ripping CD Track 6. 01:09 * Capso works on his Site. 01:09 < Capso> :) 01:09 < BleuLlama> shush. you're too noisy 01:09 < Z_Man> Capso, do you have a 2ng gen mini? 01:09 < Capso> BleuLlama: Nope. 01:09 < Capso> BleuLlama: Well, no one else here talks, heck. 01:09 < BleuLlama> z: yes. he does. he has a color click wheel mini 01:09 < Capso> Z_Man: Yep. 01:09 < BleuLlama> capso: that's no reason to do it. 01:10 < Z_Man> i have one t oo 01:10 < Capso> BleuLlama: Perhaps it should be a rule, then, eh. Heh. 01:10 < Capso> Z_Man: You got iPodLinux on it? 01:10 < dezent> Vanquisher: you were probably right... Mar 29 03:06:29 Tussilago kernel: disk1: I/O error. 01:10 < Z_Man> no 01:10 < Z_Man> it wont boot 01:10 < Capso> BleuLlama: But whatever... 'tis cool. 01:11 < Capso> Z_Man: You get a Folder with an exclamation point next to it inside a triangle? 01:11 < Z_Man> Capso: it doesnt even boot on a 2ng gen mini period at this point 01:11 < veteran> New Rule: Don't talk. Thank you. 01:11 < Z_Man> veteran, what? isn't that what IRC is about? 01:12 < veteran> not originally 01:12 < BleuLlama> if you want pointless talk, go to efnet 01:12 < dezent> now its time to sleep 01:12 < veteran> IRC was created as a fun game, to watch people join and leave 01:12 < Capso> Z_Man: Heh. 01:12 < Z_Man> lol 01:12 < veteran> but since then it has been corrupted by people using its talk feature 01:12 < dezent> bye bye 01:12 -!- dezent [dezent@81-226-213-37-no29.tbcn.telia.com] has quit ["Xchat Aqua OSX"] 01:12 < Capso> BleuLlama: It's not pointless... there's a point to learning. 01:13 < BleuLlama> capso: what you're doing isn't teaching us anything other than the fact that you're too chatty 01:13 < Vanquisher> coob, whats that podzilla-test for 01:13 < veteran> it's a test of podzilla 01:13 < Z_Man> i am too at moments bleullama 01:13 < Capso> BleuLlama: No... I ask questions... when I get answers, I learn from them. 01:13 < veteran> then learn from what we just said :D 01:13 < Capso> BleuLlama: Discussion over. 01:14 < Z_Man> LOL 01:14 < coob> Vanquisher: see if it does anything to solve your colour problems. 01:14 < Vanquisher> coob, nice thanks 01:14 < coob> Capso: except what you're asking could be learned froma 10 minutes of reading the wiki/forums. 01:15 < BleuLlama> you're absolutely right. we all should do what you want us to, you being new here.... and i forgot how much you've contributed to the project. my bad. i'll shut up now and let you lead us, oh wise capso 01:15 * BleuLlama points to coob 01:15 < coob> communists are trying to subvert my pint glass 01:15 < coob> there;s a faint star at the bottom of it :/ 01:15 < Capso> Heh. You guys are wastin' yer time. 01:16 < veteran> uh, no kidding? this is irc... 01:16 < coob> lol 01:16 < coob> vet, feel like testing my minesweeper rewrite? 01:17 < Capso> Veteran: No crap. 01:17 < Capso> lmao 01:17 < Z_Man> does anyone mind testing hangman 01:17 < Z_Man> ? 01:17 < Capso> You guys take things a bit too friggin' seriously. Heh. 01:17 < veteran> dag, right after i convinced myself to stop developing tonight 01:17 < coob> :) 01:17 < coob> heh 01:17 < veteran> sure coob, maybe i can resist the urge to add another pointless effect to subK1ll4 01:17 < coob> did you see the explosion effects in the flash movie i made of podzilla? 01:18 < veteran> hahah yes 01:18 < Vanquisher> coob, pretty sweet man 01:18 < veteran> reminds me of a target commercial for some reason 01:18 < coob> lool 01:18 < coob> Vanquisher: did that podzilla-test work? 01:19 -!- tucanoj [~tucanoj@108.120.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:19 < Vanquisher> coob, the usb extenstion fell out, i have 40FT extension to my ipod across my room.....when i musted the energy from my extreme lazyness to plug it back in, i'll let u know 01:19 < Vanquisher> muster* 01:20 < veteran> 40 ft!? active usb cables or something? 01:20 < BleuLlama> better be. 40ft is way out of spec for usb 01:21 < BleuLlama> no way that a chipset can reliably drive something on a line that long 01:21 < BleuLlama> 5ft i believe is the max. (1.8m) 01:21 < Vanquisher> alright its an exageration.....its like 15-20FT extenstion something like that, hehe...i was trying to emphasise my lazyness with "40FT" 01:22 < BleuLlama> looks like 5m is max for high speed devices, 3m for low speed devices 01:22 < Vanquisher> but the fact is, i would have to get up and walk over to the ipod, thats not something im preparied to do at this moment, maybe in about 10-20 minutes when i need a drink i'll plug it back in on my way out 01:22 < Vanquisher> BleuLlama, its usb 1.1 01:22 < coob> lazy git 01:23 < coob> test the fix now! 01:23 < Vanquisher> 2.0* 01:23 < BleuLlama> yeah. both of those specs are for usb 1.1 or 2.0 01:23 < Vanquisher> coob, plug it in for me, and i'll gladley do it 01:23 < Vanquisher> gladly* 01:28 < Vanquisher> coob, i gotta do some work, get a drink, then test ur fix, i'll get back to you 01:28 < Vanquisher> coob, in due time 01:29 * Vanquisher wants to listen to ipod while he does work 01:29 < coob> if you don't know how to upgrade podzilla just ask. 01:29 < Vanquisher> coob, how 01:30 < Vanquisher> coob, explain this 2 me 01:30 * Vanquisher was going to look into it 01:30 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/Updating_podzilla 01:30 < coob> unless you're on a mac? 01:30 < coob> mac or pc... 01:30 < Vanquisher> no linux 01:31 < coob> ok 01:31 < Z_Man> distro? 01:31 < coob> well then 01:31 < Vanquisher> gentoo 01:31 < Z_Man> ok 01:31 < Z_Man> cool 01:31 < coob> do you know how to mount the linux partition? 01:31 < Vanquisher> coob, no 01:32 < coob> do you want me to do it over ssh? 01:32 < Vanquisher> coob, can i trust you 01:32 < coob> i just want to get this fix tested... 01:33 < coob> alternatively you can get joecool to do it when he's alive. 01:33 < Z_Man> joecool! wake up! 01:34 < coob> hm actually wait 01:34 < coob> that fix won't do anythign yet 01:34 < Vanquisher> coob me and joecool were chillin at his house today, he installed it there 01:34 < coob> ok 01:34 < Vanquisher> coob, leave him alone with the damn thing for 20 minutes and he went to town on it 01:37 < Vanquisher> coob, when joecool comes back, his DSL was dropping off like crazy today, i'll have him do it 01:37 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-colorfix 01:37 < coob> that's the right one. 01:38 * BleuLlama still likes booc.coob heheh 01:38 < coob> i need gro.booc.coob.org :/ 01:39 < BleuLlama> heheh 01:39 < Vanquisher> coob, thanks 01:39 < Vanquisher> coob, im grabbing an album now anyway, ssh would be slow so, 1hr or so joecool hopefully will be alive and my download done 01:40 < Z_Man> Vanquisher, what kind of connection you got>? 01:40 < veteran> even better http://gro.booc.coob.org\\:ptth 01:41 < BleuLlama> too bad the backslash wouldn't work... 01:41 < BleuLlama> unless it's an IIS server, i think.. hmmm 01:41 < Vanquisher> Z_Man, dailup 01:42 < BleuLlama> but really, would you want an IIS server? I don't think it outweighs the symmetry coolness 01:42 < Z_Man> Vanquisher: Roadrunner for me 01:42 < veteran> i swear i'm going to shoot that bird someday 01:43 < Vanquisher> Z_Man, i had a 3MBPS/768 DSL line, for 2 days, then verizon shut it down, due to the fact they felt even though it was working it the phone line is 2 crap to handle it so they cut me off 01:44 * Vanquisher scorns verizon 01:44 < Z_Man> that sucks 01:44 < Vanquisher> buncha low life motherfuckers 01:44 < Z_Man> lol 01:46 < Capso> Do iPods take OGG Format or only MP3s? 01:46 < veteran> someday i'll move to dallas where our colos are 01:46 < coob> Capso: try reading. 01:46 < veteran> and install a covert wireless card in one of our servers with a 30db amplifier 01:47 * Capso marks *someone* as useless. 01:47 < Vanquisher> veteran, nice 01:47 < BleuLlama> coob is far from useless. 01:47 < veteran> nice until theplanet's workers start getting brain cancer 01:47 < coob> yeah i code.. graphics demos! :) 01:47 * Vanquisher marks *someone* needs hooked on phonics so he can read words 01:48 < BleuLlama> coob: that's exactly what gets the project good geek cred though. :D 01:49 < coob> a solid mp3 decoder would be nicer... 01:50 < coob> or even ipp in mpd :) 01:50 < BleuLlama> perhaps, but not everyone can work on one aspect of the project. ;) the mp3 decoder will fall into place once davidc gets off his ass and finishes up COP support 01:50 < BleuLlama> ;) 01:50 < coob> maybe... 01:52 < Vanquisher> anyone know when leachbj will be back around 01:53 < coob> later this week.\ 01:55 * BleuLlama wonders the disposition of the time patch he wrote 01:56 < coob> probably needs testing... 01:58 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:00 * BleuLlama is tempted to write an analog clock 02:10 < Capso> I got a burnt Audio CD... ripped off the Songs from it in OGG Format with 'rip'... converted them to MP3s with 'lame'... put them on my iPod... all I hear is static in all of the 17 Songs, nothing else. 02:10 < Capso> Heh. 02:10 < Capso> I'm goin'... "WTF." Heh. 02:11 < coob> does the audio cd play in a normal cd player. 02:11 < Capso> Yea. 02:11 < coob> then something's wrong with 'rip' 02:11 < BleuLlama> re-rip them to mp3 directly 02:12 < Capso> With which Command-Line Program, do you suggest? 02:12 < BleuLlama> by going to ogg and then mp3, you're adding artifacts 02:12 < BleuLlama> cdrw ? 02:12 < Capso> cdrw is Command-Line? 02:13 < BleuLlama> that's what you asked for. 02:13 < Capso> Just checking. 02:13 < Capso> And I can use it to Convert directly from audio to MP3? 02:13 < BleuLlama> i dunno. it's one of your tools. read its docs 02:13 < BleuLlama> lyft 02:14 < BleuLlama> or rather 02:14 < BleuLlama> kyft 02:16 < coob> heh 02:16 < coob> adding an fps counter to cube to test some stuff 02:17 < coob> gets ~100fps on X11 02:17 < coob> (when the timer's sec to 1msec 02:17 * coob try that on the ipod... 02:18 -!- CLiDE [CLiDE@ip4-51.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 -!- CLiDE [CLiDE@ip4-51.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:19 < coob> heh how convienient 02:19 -!- CLiDE [CLiDE@ip4-51.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:19 < coob> how the timer is set now (10 loops a second) 02:19 < coob> is about the max the ipod can do anyway... 02:20 < CLiDE> UGH... 02:20 < coob> 14fps if the cube is tiny... 02:21 < coob> so its probably the math limiting the speed than the fb driver... 02:21 < CLiDE> No matter how I try, the Windows Installer fails to load. Is it any-at-all possible to manually install iPod Linux manually (even via Windows?) 02:21 < coob> er no 02:21 < coob> the fb driver not the math sorry 02:21 < coob> yes manually, with windows probably but i'm not sure how. 02:22 < CLiDE> Shucks. 02:24 < Capso> BleuLlama: cdrw was very useless... I want to convert already burnt Audio CD(s) into MP3s. 02:24 < Capso> :/ 02:24 < Capso> Whatever. I'll figure it out on my own. 02:24 < Capso> Heh. 02:25 < coob> cdparanoia 02:25 < BleuLlama> cdrw will let you extract cd audio from cds to audio files. then just use lame, which you already have. 02:25 < coob> and lame 02:25 < BleuLlama> you're right though, that's totally useless for what you want to do. what was it that you wanted to do? 02:26 < Capso> Mmmmmmmmm. I'll try. 02:26 < BleuLlama> rtfm 02:27 < Capso> So, basically... raw to MP3. 02:38 < coob> woo that made bluecube 10x more playable 02:38 < coob> now if you hold rw/ff it'll dorp the piece faster rather than havving to hit them repeatedly. 02:44 -!- iBookBMP_ [~BMP@ool-4354c1a3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:53 < CIA-12> coobert * tools/podzilla/ (ChangeLog bluecube/main.c): bluecube input fixes. also added pause with hold switch 02:53 < coob> thar. 02:54 < coob> much more playable 02:54 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 02:54 < Vanquisher> coob, ping 02:54 < joecool> pong? 02:54 < coob> pong 02:54 < joecool> coob: liar!!! 02:55 < Vanquisher> coob, can i have a link to that podzilla color fix 02:55 * Vanquisher :: My Chemical Romance - Hang 'Em High [2m47s][192 kbit/s][44100 Hz] 02:56 < joecool> ... 02:56 < Vanquisher> joecool, :| 02:56 < Vanquisher> joecool, solved that savage thing 02:56 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-colorfix 02:56 < Vanquisher> joecool, w00t 02:56 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-colourfix 02:56 -!- iBookBMP [~BMP@ool-4354c1a3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:56 < coob> maybe 02:56 < Vanquisher> coob, :] 02:56 < coob> is joecool putting it on? 02:56 < Vanquisher> sure 02:56 < joecool> yeah 02:57 < joecool> coob: is it a full binary of podzilla? 02:57 < joecool> or a diff? 02:57 < coob> full binary. 02:57 < Vanquisher> coob, it says forbidden 02:57 < joecool> k 02:57 < joecool> Vanquisher: get me ssh up 02:57 < Vanquisher> hold on 02:57 < coob> Vanquisher: http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-colourfix 02:58 < joecool> coob: i got it.. 02:58 < Vanquisher> coob, :] 02:58 -!- sleepy [~sleepy@65.124.107.48] has joined #ipodlinux 03:02 < Daishi> leaving...g'night 03:02 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 03:02 -!- Daishi [~daishi@Daishi.member.nylug] has quit ["Client exiting..."] 03:04 < macPod> we are in the news now? 03:04 < BleuLlama> macpod! 03:05 < macPod> hey 03:05 < BleuLlama> how the hell are ya? 03:05 < macPod> really busy.. still 03:05 < BleuLlama> i hear ya. 03:05 < macPod> tonight I need to write a 5 page paper, and tommorw, a 6 page paper 03:05 -!- zsk001 is now known as zsk009 03:05 < BleuLlama> :( 03:05 < macPod> then a cs project, etc but that's nto too bad 03:05 < BleuLlama> ah. college. 03:06 -!- tucanoj [~tucanoj@108.120.cm.sunflower.com] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 03:06 < macPod> yea, job+college get you 03:06 < coob> make the pages 1cm/2cm 03:06 < coob> sorted! 03:06 < BleuLlama> nah. fullsize paper 03:06 < BleuLlama> but with 238 point text 03:06 < BleuLlama> 3" margins 03:06 < BleuLlama> triple spaced 03:07 < BleuLlama> etc. 03:07 < coob> my way is more envrionmentaly friendly... 03:07 < macPod> I have to research a minority community in westminster colorado 03:08 -!- w4f7z [~unknown@cpe-66-207-84-116.wb.hsw.ntelos.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 < macPod> it'll be interesting 03:09 < macPod> thanks for the info file bleu 03:09 < macPod> unfourtunately, it is not going to wrk 03:09 < BleuLlama> the info file? 03:09 < macPod> about your 4g 03:09 < BleuLlama> aaah. ok 03:09 < BleuLlama> well, i just got it back, and thought i'd throw the info at ya 03:10 < macPod> the firmware verison is the same as the 6gb minis 03:10 < BleuLlama> oh. crap. :( 03:10 < coob> use the updaterfamily stuff :/ 03:10 < w4f7z> hi, ive got a (brand new) ipod photo 30gig and was wondering if there was anying i could do to help, ive got margonal programing skils, but i could help bug test i suppose... 03:10 < macPod> from the ipodcontrol file? 03:11 < coob> yeah 03:11 < macPod> bleh.. people will change it then tell me they didnt 03:11 < w4f7z> anything* 03:11 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Gluon IRC, Mother tested, Mother approved !"] 03:11 < coob> macpod there's a way to differentiate between 1-3g and 4g+ on a smaller scale 03:11 < macPod> I know about the one address 03:12 < coob> by reading the firmware 03:12 < coob> yeah 03:12 < macPod> but Iathat is what the current installer does 03:12 < coob> oh 03:12 < macPod> I'm about to otool the ipod updater 03:12 < coob> did you see the ktrace i did of the updater 03:12 < macPod> ya 03:12 < coob> ..it just reads the sysinfo file. 03:13 < macPod> nope 03:13 < macPod> part of it does 03:13 < macPod> just to get the firmware revision to tell if it needs updating or not 03:13 -!- Synapse- [~pnats@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:13 -!- Synapse- [~pnats@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 < macPod> bu tit actually reads the hardware somehow with old cf frameworks to get the ipod type 03:13 < coob> and the updaterfamily... 03:14 < macPod> think about it 03:14 < BleuLlama> i've noticed that if i mangle/change the text file on the ipod, when i run the apple firmware, it re-generates that file 03:14 < macPod> format your iPod as a fat32 disk 03:14 < macPod> it still knows what typ eof ipod it is 03:15 < macPod> the fact that it knows what type of ipod you have even after you fubar it shows it reads the hardware 03:15 < coob> ..because the firmware writes the sysinfo file. 03:16 < macPod> how does the installer know what firmware to write? 03:16 -!- sleepy [~sleepy@65.124.107.48] has quit ["generic quit message"] 03:16 < coob> ..the old firmware has already written the sysinfo 03:16 < macPod> e.g. how does it know it is a 1g vs. a 4g fubar ipod? 03:17 < coob> with the hw info in it. 03:17 < coob> cos the ipod can get it 03:17 < coob> the mac can't 03:17 < coob> otherwise there'd be no sysinfo file. 03:17 < macPod> no 03:17 < macPod> alright lets take a look at this situation 03:18 < macPod> I took an ipod, formatted it as fat32 so there was not a firmware partition 03:18 < macPod> then opened up the installer and the installer knew what firmware to write 03:19 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 03:19 < macPod> I've also formatted it as ufs 03:19 < coob> hmm ok i see your point 03:19 < macPod> I have also formatted my 3g like normal, then installed a 4g firmware in the 32mb firmware partition 03:19 < macPod> the computer still recognized it 03:20 < CLiDE> macPod, are you a iPodLinux for Windows guru? 03:20 < macPod> no 03:20 < CLiDE> Support for it is next to null. 03:20 < coob> that's going in the sig. 03:21 < BleuLlama> heh 03:21 < macPod> CLiDE what if I said yes? 03:21 < BleuLlama> >>>mac<< macPod: I'd orgasm. 03:21 < coob> Vanquisher/joecool any update? 03:21 < Vanquisher> no 03:21 < Vanquisher> no fix 03:21 < Vanquisher> same shit 03:22 * Vanquisher blames firmware 03:22 < coob> hm ok 03:22 < macPod> hey bleu 03:22 * CLiDE just wishes his little ol' 3G could take Linux 03:22 < macPod> lets say you mangle the file 03:22 < macPod> then run the apple ipod os 03:22 < coob> clide ar eyou using usb or fw 03:22 < CLiDE> FW 03:22 < macPod> is that what fixes it? or does attaching it to yoru comp do it? 03:22 < CLiDE> USB is Universal Trash. 03:22 < coob> clide: fw can be shitty sometimes, try usb 03:23 < coob> even if it's 1.1 03:23 < coob> usb is far more stable on the ipod... 03:23 < CLiDE> Good tip, never did it, and I do have Dual cord... 03:23 < macPod> I'm gonna make a serial cable 03:23 < CLiDE> ... Plus, I'm an idiot,. 03:23 < joecool> good to know 03:23 < coob> you are using windows... 03:24 < CLiDE> macPod: Don't waste your time on serial cable, make the iPod connect through the floppy drive somehow. 03:24 < CLiDE> THEN I'd be impressed. 03:24 < BleuLlama> do people still have floppy drives? 03:24 * coob prays for a +q 03:24 < CLiDE> Whats a floppy drive? 03:24 < coob> macPod: Mar 29 04:18:51 ibook diskarbitrationd[87]: disk2s3 hfs 9D063266-3492-35A4-83EA-61D22199DD33 iPod /Volumes/iPod 03:24 < coob> that odd string, have you any idea what it is? 03:25 < macPod> it means that disk is being mounted 03:25 < macPod> it shows the unix path, format 03:25 < coob> no 03:25 < macPod> name of volume 03:25 < coob> i know that 03:25 * coob not a retard 03:25 < macPod> adn the long string is the serial number of the drive 03:25 < coob> yeah 03:25 < coob> could it be going by the serial number 03:26 < macPod> who here has a 4g other than coob? 03:26 < coob> if it can't find the sysinfo file? 03:26 < macPod> bleu << 03:26 < coob> BleuLlama does. 03:26 < macPod> what do you get 03:26 < BleuLlama> what am i doing? 03:26 < macPod> attach your ipod 03:26 < macPod> then open up the console 03:26 < coob> open Console.app 03:26 < coob> chekc system.log 03:26 < joecool> smoke crack 03:27 < macPod> anybody here with a 3g and osx? 03:27 < joecool> i got a 4g and linux.. does that count? 03:27 < CLiDE> Well, I have access to OSX tomorrow... 03:27 < CLiDE> and I do have a beat up ol' 3G. 03:28 < BleuLlama> console log : 03:28 < BleuLlama> Mar 28 22:27:49 cardinalfang kernel: IOFireWireController::disablePhyPortOnSleepForNodeID found child 0 03:28 < BleuLlama> Mar 28 22:27:49 cardinalfang kernel: IOFireWireController::disablePhyPortOnSleepForNodeID disable port 0 03:28 < BleuLlama> where is system.log? 03:28 < macPod> that is the console log 03:28 < coob> click logs 03:28 < BleuLlama> var log? 03:28 < macPod> look on the left bar 03:28 < BleuLlama> ph 03:28 < BleuLlama> oh 03:28 < BleuLlama> heh 03:28 < CLiDE> Hmmm, interesting log. It thus proves that the Earth is flat. 03:29 < BleuLlama> whoa. never noticed that before. heh 03:29 < macPod> nice for checking for haxors 03:29 < BleuLlama> Mar 28 22:27:52 cardinalfang diskarbitrationd[87]: disk1s3 hfs 9D063266-3492-35A4-83EA-61D22199DD33 Trumpy /Volumes/Trumpy 03:29 < coob> macPod: hmm seems the ipod updater uses a fallback 03:29 < coob> if it cant find sysinfo 03:29 < coob> it can still tell hw version 03:29 < BleuLlama> is that the line you wanted? 03:29 < macPod> Mar 29 04:18:51 ibook diskarbitrationd[87]: disk2s3 hfs 9D063266-3492-35A4-83EA-61D22199DD33 iPod /Volumes/iPod 03:29 * coob ktrace to find out how 03:29 < macPod> tis coobs 03:29 < macPod> hmm 03:29 < BleuLlama> same number 03:30 < macPod> must be model number 03:30 < BleuLlama> yeah. 03:30 < BleuLlama> 4g 03:30 < macPod> bleu you have a 4gb mini right? 03:30 < coob> thought it was a normal 4g 03:30 < BleuLlama> no. that's a 4g 03:30 < BleuLlama> oh wait. yes 03:30 < BleuLlama> i understand. 03:31 < macPod> do you have one? 03:31 < BleuLlama> Mar 28 22:31:25 cardinalfang diskarbitrationd[87]: disk1s3 hfs 9D063266-3492-35A4-83EA-61D22199DD33 PambmacPodmacPod 03:32 < coob> hmm.. 03:32 < BleuLlama> that's an older 4g mini 03:33 < macPod> did they update the processor on the new 4gb minis? 03:33 < coob> hmm maybe not by that then 03:33 < coob> macpod: dunno yet :/ 03:33 < coob> they have PP5022 if you strings the fw :) 03:33 < macPod> well the 4g ipod versions were the same 03:33 < coob> yeah but they use different fw 03:34 < CLiDE> Totally different; note the bugs Apple started off with when the Mini released. 03:34 < macPod> the fw on disk or in flash? 03:34 < coob> both. 03:34 < CLiDE> I don't know why, though. Possibly because of the new click wheel? 03:34 < macPod> hmm 03:35 < coob> CLiDE: smaller size, slightly different hardware, differnt input system, a lot of differences. 03:35 < macPod> well hold up coob 03:35 < macPod> iir the updater knows the color of your ipod (surprisingly enough) 03:35 < CLiDE> Mmmhmm. 03:36 < macPod> right? 03:36 < coob> ugh 03:36 < coob> no idea i dont have a mini... 03:36 < macPod> lol 03:36 < macPod> well you should.. 03:36 < coob> lol 03:36 < coob> i havea 4g 40gb 03:37 < Vanquisher> i have a 4g photo 40gig 03:39 < joecool> i have a mexican illegal alien that cleans my dirty room.. because he's a dirty person 03:39 < coob> Vanquisher: if you have time, try creating a gif with solid blocks of red green and blue 03:39 < joecool> he does it for 20 pesos 03:39 < joecool> a week 03:39 < coob> and seeing what it looks like. 03:39 < Vanquisher> coob, hold on 03:43 < Vanquisher> coob, what do i use for that 03:43 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 03:43 < coob> to see what the solid colours are being converted too... 03:43 < Vanquisher> coob, which program 03:44 < coob> anything to make images 03:44 < coob> then open it up in podzilla's file browser 03:45 -!- CLiDED [CLiDE@ip4-27.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has joined #IPODLINUX 03:45 * BleuLlama rebuilds his microwindows cause he somehow screwed it up 03:45 * joecool slaps BleuLlama for the sake of slapping BleuLlama 03:45 < BleuLlama> fair enough 03:45 < joecool> :) 03:45 < Vanquisher> coob, wtf makes a image 03:46 < Vanquisher> any program? 03:46 < joecool> import? 03:46 < Vanquisher> import what 03:46 < Vanquisher> ... 03:46 < joecool> import -window root filename.jpg 03:46 < Vanquisher> ... 03:46 < Vanquisher> onto the pod? 03:46 < joecool> i dunno 03:47 < Vanquisher> err i have no idea 03:47 < coob> what the fuck 03:47 < coob> you don't know how to make an image? 03:47 < BleuLlama> argh. this is not working. 03:47 < Vanquisher> coob, no 03:47 < Vanquisher> coob, in the ipod? 03:47 < macPod> coob what do you see if you look at your ipod in the system profiler? 03:48 < coob> just make an image 03:48 < coob> like you would normally 03:48 -!- CLiDE [CLiDE@ip4-51.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:48 < coob> in paint or whatever 03:48 < Vanquisher> yeah 03:48 < macPod> for the key Unit Spec Id 03:49 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 03:49 < coob> Unit Spec Id: 24734 03:49 < coob> Firmware Revision: 1.62 03:49 < coob> Unit Software Version: 10483 03:49 < macPod> damn 03:49 < coob> that firmware revision is talking about the hard disk firmware 03:49 < macPod> n/m 03:49 < coob> not the ipod firmware 03:49 < macPod> tis the same as a 3g 03:49 < macPod> the unit spec id 03:50 < BleuLlama> hooray! I can finally build arm or desktop of podzilla... (both now work in one source tree. i was a moron before. heh 03:51 < coob> lndir is handy 03:51 < coob> i have podzilla which just contians source 03:51 < coob> then build-x11 03:51 < coob> and build-ipod 03:52 < coob> which are both filled by lndir 03:52 < coob> ..so object files stay where they shoudl. 03:52 < BleuLlama> hmm. i've not seen lndir before. neat 03:52 < coob> in /usr/X11R6/bin if thats not in your path... 03:53 < BleuLlama> yep. looking at the man page 03:54 < coob> haha what the fuck 03:54 < coob> macpod i'm not sure if i can read this ktrace/kdump right 03:54 < coob> but i think the fallback after finding sysinfo missing 03:54 < coob> is checking the drive icon loool 03:54 < macPod> lol what? 03:54 < coob> hmm maybe not 03:54 < macPod> nah 03:54 < macPod> if you read the binary files 03:54 < macPod> with otool 03:55 < macPod> of the installer you see it has libraries to figure out the ipod type 03:56 < coob> 16152 LaunchCFMApp NAMI "/.vol/234881030/2/.VolumeIcon.icns" 03:56 < coob> it checks that for some reason heh 03:56 < coob> what're you reading with otool? what options? 03:57 < macPod> er actually 03:57 < macPod> I just open up a binary in bbedit and read it 03:57 < macPod> you can see function names there 03:57 < macPod> hardcore! 03:57 < coob> ..which binary 03:58 < Vanquisher> coob, the blue and green are just like dark, and u cant make them out 03:58 < coob> but the red is fine? 03:58 < Vanquisher> coob, only color that stands out is purple, if it is purple 03:58 < Vanquisher> coob, sure 03:58 < coob> weird. 03:58 < coob> is the purple where the green should be? 03:58 < Vanquisher> coob, i dont know :( im so confused 03:58 < Vanquisher> lol 03:59 < macPod> coob dont remember the exact one 03:59 < veteran> wow subhunt works on the ipod! 03:59 < Vanquisher> coob, do u have a picture of what the cube should look like 03:59 < veteran> it runs faster than on x11 haha 03:59 < Vanquisher> in color 03:59 < veteran> stupid grevent timers 03:59 < macPod> you can check out the files inside the updater bundle 04:00 < Vanquisher> coob, alright watching the cube slowly it seems its only 3 colors 04:10 -!- iBookBMP_ [~BMP@ool-4354c1a3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 04:14 < veteran> courtc - you here? 04:20 < coob> macPod: what does UpdaterLibGetRevisionLevel return? 04:20 < joecool> Vanquisher: better then the gay cube you originally had 04:20 < Vanquisher> no 04:21 < Vanquisher> joecool, same thing 04:21 < Vanquisher> joecool, i just looked at in the light 04:21 < joecool> rofl 04:21 * Vanquisher curses 1.0.1 04:22 < Vanquisher> GOD DAMMIT 04:22 < macPod> coob dunno 04:22 < macPod> havent had achance to look at all that suff 04:22 < macPod> just read it 04:49 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:49 -!- w4f7z [~unknown@cpe-66-207-84-116.wb.hsw.ntelos.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:50 < veteran> who had that video of the ipod photo? 04:50 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-24-25-220-75.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:50 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [~FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit [tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 04:50 -!- Marlon [~marlon@global.phoonet.info] has quit [tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 04:50 -!- CIA-12 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 04:51 -!- CIA-12 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #ipodlinux 04:51 -!- Marlon [~marlon@global.phoonet.info] has joined #ipodlinux 04:51 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [~FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:51 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:55 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:01 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 05:01 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:04 < CLiDED> I like to Oat... I like to Oat... I like to Oat Oat Opples and Bononos. 05:04 < Vanquisher> veteran, me 05:04 < Vanquisher> veteran, i have the video 05:04 < Vanquisher> CLiDED, and wtf are u smoking 05:04 < CLiDED> Vanquisher: Good question, I haven't looked yet. 05:04 < Vanquisher> CLiDED, seems good 05:05 < CLiDED> Vanquisher: What ever makes you wanting to eat Opples and Bononos. 05:05 < Vanquisher> CLiDED, then it must be good 05:05 < Vanquisher> i would never eat that 05:05 < Vanquisher> lol 05:05 < veteran> Vanquisher - what's the link to it 05:05 < CLiDED> :) 05:06 < CLiDED> I should goto bed. Emphisis on 'should' 05:06 < Vanquisher> veteran, whats the magic word 05:06 < veteran> blog 05:06 < CLiDED> Oh, I KNOW, I KNOW... Bite me? 05:06 < Vanquisher> veteran, http://joecool.ftfuchs.com/Ipod/iplphoto.mov 05:07 < Vanquisher> veteran, the colors are fucked up 05:07 < Vanquisher> veteran, as u will see 05:07 < Vanquisher> the matrix = red 05:07 < veteran> i watched it earlier 05:07 < Vanquisher> oh 05:07 < veteran> but cleared history since then :/ 05:07 < Vanquisher> veteran, haha 05:08 < CLiDED> Me thinks Apple is going to change Photo's name to Color, and introduce iPods that play Quicktime movies. 05:09 < veteran> t'would be nice but i doubt it 05:10 < CLiDED> Why not? It's the logical next step for Apple... 05:10 < BleuLlama> nah. 05:10 < BleuLlama> no good way for the average person to get content 05:10 < veteran> apple isn't always logical 05:11 < CLiDED> The first day Photos came out, people tried to make movies. 05:11 < CLiDED> veteran: Agreed. 05:11 < CLiDED> Apple can be very conservative, too. 05:12 < CLiDED> BleuLlama: Yes, and no, Theres always room for expansion; Small things like moving the wheel downwards for a bigger screen, iTunes Movie support, etc. 05:12 < joecool> they've been more free thinking lately.. i think they should have more agressive advertising on their desktop shit.. everyone knows about the ipod now 05:12 < joecool> by word of mouth.. thats cemented in 05:13 < CLiDED> Joe, Definately 05:13 < CLiDED> Note; Mac Minis 05:13 < joecool> yeah, i have not seen ONE ad for the mac mini 05:13 < joecool> i didn't even know what one was until someone mentioned it in here 05:13 < CLiDED> but they're selling it pretty decently. 05:13 < CLiDED> People are seeing how well built OSX is 05:13 < joecool> for instance.. they could push the powerbook a HELL of a lot more 05:14 < CLiDED> Well, it's nice to know that Apple is climbing to the top, again. 05:14 -!- hairy_potter [~suraj@global-pix1.bangalore.corp.yahoo.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:14 < joecool> CLiDED: i'm a linux user at heart.. but since OSX is bringin a bit of *NIX to the masses.. i'm happy 05:14 < CLiDED> Their Tech Support is top knotch, bar none. 05:14 < hairy_potter> joecool: OSX is Unix at heart 05:15 < hairy_potter> but OSX at skin deep ;) 05:15 < BleuLlama> joecool: you don't have to say "*NIX"... OSX has a real UNIX at its core. you can say "UNIX" 05:15 < CLiDED> Yes, I love how they implimented *nix 05:15 < CLiDED> It's just the GUI server is different 05:15 < CLiDED> Darwin, I believe? 05:15 < joecool> yeah.. i'll say UNIX.. its got some nagging differences on the development tools though 05:16 < joecool> like their gcc.. is funny 05:16 < joecool> -fast flag? 05:16 < BleuLlama> it's just BSD. 05:16 < CLiDED> Yup, it's not like you can run *nix proggies out of the box. 05:16 < joecool> if only linux could match osx on ppc.. 05:16 < joecool> its there.. but its still a notch below 05:16 < BleuLlama> yes, you can. but you can't run all linux source out of the box, but that's because a lot of linux developers go "well, it works here", not testing on other unix variants 05:17 < CLiDED> mmhmm. 05:17 < joecool> well.. you should techincally be able to run most linux source on mac.. its all C and the unix stuff is there 05:17 < joecool> standard libs and shit 05:17 < CLiDED> Joe, ever since transperancy was developed through Linux, doors have opened. 05:17 < veteran> the ipod is their desktop advertisement 05:17 < BleuLlama> Cli: unix doesn't have a gui server. people commonly use X11 or something similar for gui interfaces... 05:18 < BleuLlama> joecool: as long as people built against POSIX interfaces, yes 05:18 < CLiDED> I know that. 05:18 < joecool> i REALLY don't want apple to make a phone.. thats a really stupid idea 05:18 < joecool> its gonna be shit 05:18 < CLiDED> veteran: It's true, but, at the same time, I don't like a majority of Mac hardware. 05:18 < CLiDED> Well, that is, G5's aren't Mac hardware. 05:18 < joecool> well who knows.. if motorola backs them.. and they get ingenious on the UI.. which they havn't.. it might be good 05:18 < veteran> itunes on a cell phone isn't a bad idea 05:19 < CLiDED> Not at all, but Nokia did it years ago. 05:19 < joecool> veteran: the way they are doing it is stupid 05:19 < CLiDED> Joe: Only streaming? 05:19 < joecool> no.. not streaming.. but its going to be flash storage.. 05:19 < joecool> i have another idea 05:20 < CLiDED> Well, HDD wouldn't be effective... 05:20 < joecool> toshiba has a 0.8" line of hard drives now.. the smallest in the world 05:20 -!- Bi-noix [~Bi-noix@82.230.252.4] has joined #ipodlinux 05:20 < veteran> do we know the way they're doing it? 05:20 < CLiDED> Yes, but, damage control 05:20 < joecool> a 2gb one of those in a phone.. would be small and store a good deal 05:20 < veteran> i've just seen a lot of rumors 05:20 < CLiDED> A 2GB flash chip is cheaper to manufacture than a moving HDD 05:20 < veteran> joecool - and cost $6000 ;) 05:20 < joecool> veteran: a couple insiders i know... they are doing it.. but it appears apple will have little input.. its just a motorola 05:21 < veteran> joecool - rumor rumor rumor 05:21 < veteran> i'm not going to judge it until i see it 05:21 < CLiDED> You think it'll be practical? 05:21 < veteran> if done correctly, yes 05:21 < joecool> its not practical.. 05:21 < BleuLlama> i dunno. i adhere to the unix design philosophy. a bunch of small tools that do their on thing really f'ing well. put them together if you want. I don't want a phone that plays a little music. I want a phone that is a phone and has excellent battery life. I want an ipod to play music, etc. 05:21 < joecool> it sounds like its going to be a dumbphone with itunes support 05:21 < CLiDED> I mean, I drop my cell phone at 10 feet, it survives. 05:21 < BleuLlama> s/their on/their own/ 05:22 < CLiDED> I drop my iPod at 10 feet, buh byes. 05:22 < joecool> storage, battery, usability, size... all HUGE factors 05:22 < veteran> it's not about it being a phone, it's about an ipod connected to a wireless network 05:22 < BleuLlama> i accidently launched my ipod from my hand onto pavement, while it was running 05:22 < veteran> nation-wide downloading of mp3s 05:22 < BleuLlama> it scuffed up the back, but still worked well 05:22 < joecool> moto is bad at making things small... 05:22 < CLiDED> BleuLlama: I do it all the time, too, but there are some cases where it's different. 05:22 < joecool> though.. they are on my good side for making a smartphone based on linux embedded 05:23 < CLiDED> joecool: Razor 3? 05:23 < CLiDED> :) 05:23 < joecool> CLiDED: yeah, but the specs are not too great for its price 05:24 < joecool> my sony-ericsson k700i is a much better deal, small and loaded, its only downsides are no expandable memory and crappy battery 05:24 < CLiDED> MMM HMM... 05:24 < CLiDED> Sony Ericssons are my favorite phones, full stop. 05:24 < joecool> s-e is the best 05:24 < joecool> nokia is the worst 05:24 < CLiDED> Nokia's FW was the best 05:24 < joecool> whoah, hell no 05:24 < BleuLlama> i've got an old Audiovox (2+ yrs old), excellent battery life, still works great. is a cheap phone (was free) so i don't have to pamper it or anything like that 05:25 < CLiDED> *WAS* 05:25 < hairy_potter> does the default ipod MBR look for something on the first partition? shouldn't we update the MBR when we try to get ipodlinux on it? 05:25 < joecool> CLiDED: yeah.. back in the day 05:25 < CLiDED> Ever since I got the t610, I never went back 05:25 < CLiDED> the t610 feels like a computer. 05:25 < hairy_potter> (I see no instructions on the Documentation page) 05:25 < CLiDED> I loved the navigation 05:25 < joecool> CLiDED: the t610 is a flawed phone though.. 05:25 < BleuLlama> hp: when you update the firmware (dd) you're doing that 05:25 < joecool> CLiDED: i'm not being negative.. but it is 05:25 < CLiDED> Yes and No, 2MB storage was horrible 05:26 < veteran> > #phones 05:26 < CLiDED> and the random screams when talking to people was aweful 05:26 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: but we only do dd of=/dev/sdX1 05:26 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: nothing to the MBR 05:26 < CLiDED> But the t610 firmware is great. 05:26 < hairy_potter> (afaik) 05:26 < CLiDED> Except SE has the worst support. 05:26 < joecool> CLiDED: well thats not where i was hittin.. the first units were loaded with defects and hissed, the signal reception is worse then the t68i (which i love the t68i very much.. its just outdated a bit), and of course.. the STN screen 05:26 < BleuLlama> when it starts up, it runs that code. it's the equivalent of lilo for the ipod 05:27 < joecool> which is impossible to see in daylight, and ghosts with the camera 05:27 < CLiDED> joecool: Didn't they fix the STN screen with the t630? 05:27 < joecool> CLiDED: in the US, there is almost no SE support.. it blows 05:27 < CLiDED> it's basically the same phone, but updated. 05:27 < joecool> CLiDED: yes.. matter of fact you can convert the t610 to the t630 for about $100 05:27 < veteran> > #phones 05:28 < CLiDED> Yup, I saw that. 05:28 < CLiDED> veteran: Welcome to #iPodLinux ;) 05:28 < joecool> all you need is LCD, Housing, keyboard pcb, and new firmware 05:28 < joecool> CLiDED: #gentoo-cafe, i run it.. we talk there 05:28 < veteran> #phone-cafe 05:31 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@cpe-66-27-120-128.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: so if I get a "folder icon" with an exclamation as an error, what were I missing? 05:32 < BleuLlama> you're on a 4g, mini or photo? 05:32 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: yep, 4G (20GB model) 05:32 -!- Luke [~Luke@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 05:32 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 05:33 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: so the instructions for the regular ipod there doesn't work for the 4G? 05:33 < CLiDED> I need to pick up another iPod 05:33 < BleuLlama> *** Topic for #ipodlinux: http://www.ipodlinux.org/ || There is NO 4G support 05:33 < BleuLlama> +still! 05:33 < CLiDED> and put my tired 3G to rest :O 05:33 < BleuLlama> it means you're screwed, hp 05:33 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: of course. I know that. 05:33 < BleuLlama> so you saw that there was no 4g support, but did it anyway? 05:33 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: so i had to restore everything and live with the sucky mac :( 05:34 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: yeah. I thought I could atleast see it booting and feel the bliss ;) 05:34 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: so I looked into the beta directory 05:34 < hairy_potter> and found a "4g" uclinux kernel 05:34 < BleuLlama> i don't need the play by play 05:34 < hairy_potter> and also a podzilla_4g 05:35 < BleuLlama> it's unsupported. no support. you're on your own. 05:35 < hairy_potter> wokay 05:35 < hairy_potter> :) 05:36 < hairy_potter> BleuLlama: so I got no kernel hacking fundae. but i can write good perl/python/gtk/c/etc.,. Can I be of _any_ help? (sweeping the floor, doing the dishes, etc.,. and the like is fine too ;) ) 05:36 < veteran> unless you earn our respect 05:36 < hairy_potter> heh 05:37 < veteran> well the other guy walked across 20 heatsink-less cpus with bare feet 05:38 < veteran> maybe you could do something original... an ogg of you singing "my heart will go on", perhaps? 05:38 < hairy_potter> you mean "my hot will go on?" 05:38 < veteran> 2 minutes minimum. then ask your question and i guarantee you'll get _some_ sort of response 05:38 < hairy_potter> (if I said "heat will go on" you might mistake me to be a female dog in "season") 05:49 -!- Vaffanculo [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 05:50 < BleuLlama> okey. ipod restored from disk. time to add in all the music i've lost in the past month... 05:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 06:00 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-55-35-115.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:10 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 06:18 -!- CLiDED [CLiDE@ip4-27.eyrkonaeac01.dialup.ca.telus.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 06:22 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:25 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:28 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["."] 07:01 -!- tlg_ is now known as tlg 07:05 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has joined #ipodlinux 07:10 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:16 -!- tlg [~tlg@184-220.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 07:19 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:44 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:56 -!- hairy_potter [~suraj@global-pix1.bangalore.corp.yahoo.com] has quit ["ERC vVersion 3.0 $Revision: 1.328 $ (IRC client for Emacs)"] 07:57 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|sleep 07:59 -!- N0V4K [Administra@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #iPodLinux 08:00 -!- N0V4K [Administra@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:10 < JonasNZ> g2g bb in an hour or so 08:11 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:18 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@210-54-99-247.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 08:18 -!- JonasNZ [jbergler@jonasnz.user] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 08:20 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm69-45-208-47.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 08:32 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:44 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:28 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 09:36 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:47 -!- pacroon [~pacroon@83.73.64.63.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 10:44 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:03 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:08 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 11:34 -!- crimson [~crimsonre@203.91.90.110.rev.eftel.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:35 < crimson> hey room 11:38 < crimson> pretty dead in here 11:38 -!- crimson [~crimsonre@203.91.90.110.rev.eftel.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050226]"] 11:43 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:53 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-3258.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:54 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:09 -!- WarDead [~WarDead@a12242.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:13 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:22 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:22 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:23 -!- WarDead [~WarDead@a12242.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["God."] 12:23 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 12:40 -!- deevus [~deevus@60-240-0-88-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:44 -!- deevus [~deevus@60-240-0-88-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0/20041107]"] 12:46 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:13 -!- fabel [~fabel@212.204.35.25] has joined #iPodLinux 13:22 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-247.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:40 -!- knoppix [~knoppix@cpc1-stoc4-6-0-cust144.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:41 < fabel> How can I adjust recording volume? 13:41 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 13:42 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:51 < JMunakra> also ich möchte mal bezeifeln, daß man was vernünftiges kriegt, wenn man nach "northbridge" googelt 13:51 < JMunakra> wrong window 13:54 < fabel> Hey... 13:55 < fabel> Kannst du mir eine Frage beantworten? 13:55 < fabel> the quality of Recordings seem to be not good... What can I do to improve quality ? 13:59 -!- fabel [~fabel@212.204.35.25] has quit ["leaving"] 14:07 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:17 < coob> get a better microphone. 14:24 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 14:36 -!- MrBIOS [~aperez@adsl-209-204-186-239.sonic.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:00 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:09 -!- tx297 [~TX297@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:20 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 15:42 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:42 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:50 -!- joecool|sleep [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:53 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux 16:21 -!- Sereroku [~Chris@Ea03c.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:36 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-246-12.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:36 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:36 < nickweb> join #php 16:51 -!- l00bster [T_crazy48@x1-6-00-0c-76-5e-2a-74.k169.webspeed.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:52 < l00bster> how is it I restore the apple firmware w/o deleting my music? 20 gb, 3g iPod 16:54 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-195-247.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:54 < Z_Man> l00bster: you can't unless you made a backup 16:55 < Z_Man> when you installed ipl 16:55 < BleuLlama> boot your ipod into disk mode, copy everything off of it, boot it in regular mode, restore firmware, quit itunes, copy files back. 16:55 < Z_Man> otherwise, if you didn't make a backup, you're gonna have to wipe out everything 16:56 < Z_Man> heheh CTCP/VERSION reply from l00bster : mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey 16:56 < BleuLlama> i've found that you really only need to copy/restore the iPod_Control/Music and iPod_Control/iTunes directories 16:57 < BleuLlama> (just did two restores/ipod copies yesterday -- copied from my 1g to my 4g, then from an old 4g backup to the 4g... (wiping the 1g info... but still) 17:01 < l00bster> Ok thanks 17:14 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162167101.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:15 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-246-12.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:25 -!- Sereroku [~Chris@Ea03c.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:29 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-246-12.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:31 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:33 -!- nickweb [Nick@host81-156-246-12.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 17:35 -!- l00bster [T_crazy48@x1-6-00-0c-76-5e-2a-74.k169.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 17:36 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 17:38 -!- d[r]eadlock [~marc@82.249.117.24] has joined #ipodlinux 18:16 < coob> just got 160600 on bluecube :D 18:17 < coob> (actually on the ipod) 18:18 < BleuLlama> you haven't broken 200k yet? damn. 18:18 < coob> on the original 18:18 < coob> how did the pieces first appear 18:18 < coob> whole right at the top 18:18 < coob> or drop from their bottom block 18:18 < coob> (s) 18:19 < BleuLlama> on GB, they appeared in their entirety at the top, center 18:19 < BleuLlama> i based the gameplay and little things like that for my Pac-Tetris on the GameBoy version 18:20 < coob> hm 18:20 < BleuLlama> for the lop-sided pieces, they started off-center (since you cant' center them) but favoring the left side 18:20 < BleuLlama> i can't remember if they always appeared in a specific orientation, or if they were randomly rotated... 18:21 < BleuLlama> (which makes a difference for the long piece) 18:21 < BleuLlama> (as far as start height) 18:21 < BleuLlama> (parentheses) 18:22 < coob> any idea what the original size of the.. board(?) was in terms of block height/width? 18:22 < BleuLlama> 10 wide 20 tall 18:23 < coob> k 18:23 < BleuLlama> i added a "scootch" feature to mine... 18:23 < coob> ? 18:23 < BleuLlama> if you have a piece near the wall, and go to rotate it, but the wall gets in the way of the rotation, it scootches the piece over enough that the piece will rotate 18:24 < BleuLlama> i believe that in the original, it will jsut not rotate 18:33 < BleuLlama> (my quadblok is 2572 bytes for the complete game with 3 game versions...whee!) 18:33 < coob> pacman is z80 yeah? 18:34 < coob> is that cisc or risc 18:34 < Bi-noix> just a question : is it easy to add a program to podzilla if it has been coded as standalone ? 18:35 < Bi-noix> I wonder if it is wise to code a programm apart from podzilla for development purpose, and then add it 18:35 < BleuLlama> z80. cisc 18:36 < coob> did you write it in asm or c? 18:36 < BleuLlama> asn 18:36 < BleuLlama> asm 18:36 < BleuLlama> it's a lot of fun. :D 18:36 < Bi-noix> :) 18:36 < coob> Bi-noix: uh sure make sure function names and globals go over without interfering though. 18:36 < Bi-noix> ok, I'll have a look at other programs 18:37 < BleuLlama> of course, i'm leveraging off of a lot of library functions I wrote (interrupt handler, timer routines (scheduling event callbacks, etc), text rendering, music playback rouitne, etc.) 18:37 < coob> uh just look at the right ones 18:37 < BleuLlama> bi-noix: also be sure to code against the Linux Kernel style guide 18:37 < coob> cos there's some corkers... 18:37 < BleuLlama> er, code "to" it 18:37 < coob> fuck the lksg :) i like my 4 space tabs dammit! 18:38 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 18:38 < Bi-noix> BleuLlama: where is the guide ? :P 18:38 < coob> /usr/src/linux/Documentation 18:38 < BleuLlama> i love my 4 space tabs too, but it makes the core people less annoyed by looking at my patches. ;) 18:38 < BleuLlama> bi-noix: ipodlinux.org/Patches i think has a link too 18:38 < coob> they don't have to look when you have cvs access muahaha 18:38 < BleuLlama> yeah. :( 18:39 < courtc> I'm the only one here who uses 8 space tabs ;) 18:39 < coob> i thought lbj did? 18:39 < BleuLlama> who do you have to blow to get dev cvs access? ;) 18:39 < coob> but then h's not here.... 18:40 < coob> BleuLlama: you just have to keep annoying them with usefulish patches until they get bored of checking them... 18:40 < courtc> hmm.. I think he said something about 4 awile back.. 18:40 < BleuLlama> hehe 18:40 < BleuLlama> fair enough 18:41 < Bi-noix> BleuLlama: I have it thx 18:42 < BleuLlama> np 18:43 < Bi-noix> I'd like to code a puzzle-bubble likef 18:43 < BleuLlama> sweet. 18:43 < Bi-noix> would be fun to play with the wheel 18:43 < Bi-noix> :) 18:44 < BleuLlama> when i was coding the pac-tetris. i figured out that i could almost use the same engine for tetris as a Dr. Mario type game (Baku Baku, puzzle fighter, etc)... then make it upside down to get a puzzle-bobble like game... 18:44 < BleuLlama> pieces move in one direction or the other and 'stick', then pieces are cleared. 18:45 < BleuLlama> turns out, that even though there's a lot of functionality overlap, it was just a lot easier to code it to be its own game. heh. 18:45 < coob> a generic gridgame engine would be nea.t 18:46 < BleuLlama> or perhaps a SCUMMVM style game engine, then let people just add adventure games to it, without needing to download a new Podzilla, etc... 18:47 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:47 < BleuLlama> unfortunately, the SCUMMVM engine needs too much screen space to be useful, without majorly hacking it. 18:47 * BleuLlama wonders if the phrase "SCUMMVM engine" is redundant... should have said "SCUMM engine" 19:01 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:04 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:06 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 19:49 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:12 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm69-45-208-47.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:16 -!- Burnsy [Burnsy@host81-152-75-225.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:19 -!- Vaffanculo [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:24 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEA0EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:43 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 20:46 -!- Burnsy [Burnsy@host81-152-75-225.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:52 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:55 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 21:04 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 21:07 -!- Vaffanculo [~Van@vanquisher.user] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:21 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["brb"] 21:22 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:27 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:27 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEA0EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:34 -!- Vaffanculo [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:36 -!- danalien is now known as princeofdarkness 21:49 -!- dsh-1 [~daishi@pool-162-84-189-189.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:58 -!- littlenicky [~nik[spamb@222-153-83-15.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 22:08 -!- littlenicky [~nik[spamb@222-153-83-15.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit ["Off to do some programming ..."] 22:12 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-5f5b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 22:16 < BleuLlama> copper boom. 22:21 < coob> .. 22:25 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:25 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 22:35 -!- Vanquisher is now known as Van 22:36 -!- Van is now known as Vanquisher 22:43 < joecool> Luke, i am your father 22:43 < BleuLlama> that's not true 22:43 < BleuLlama> THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE 22:43 < joecool> BleuLlama: come to the dark side 22:43 < joecool> white folk be dissin, talkin bout the man 22:48 * Vanquisher coooperrr coooopperrrr 22:49 -!- dsh-1 is now known as Daishi 23:17 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 23:18 -!- praetorian [praetorian@praetorian.user] has joined #ipodlinux 23:22 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-67-1.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:28 -!- blamemyparents [~blamemypa@ool-4354c185.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:29 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 23:32 -!- joecool is now known as kampfer 23:32 -!- kampfer is now known as joecool 23:35 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:48 -!- JMunakra [~JMunakra@dsl-084-059-192-148.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:59 -!- hyarion [~beer@1-1-10-41a.um.um.bostream.se] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Wed Mar 30 00:00:01 2005