--- Log opened Fri Mar 18 00:00:03 2005 00:10 < coob> any <= 3g people around? 00:10 < joecool> not I 00:10 * joecool goes to get the pizza 00:10 -!- joecool is now known as joecool|food 00:12 < courtc> I love that.. "any ___ people around?" "Not me" "I don't have ___" "Nope, I only have !___" 00:12 < courtc> every time.. 00:13 < coob> haha 00:21 -!- dup [~ddup1@dupnet.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:24 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea3fb.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:24 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@CPE-144-133-99-46.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 00:25 < coob> hi evildude 00:25 < EvilDude> hey coob 00:25 < EvilDude> how goes stuff 00:26 < coob> not bad, just trying to merge the 4g and 3g make_fw's but i have no 3g firmware 00:26 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 < courtc> hey EvilDude, finally got that backlight timer stuff in.. ;) 00:26 < coob> any chance you could test it for me to see if it still spits out the same images? 00:26 < EvilDude> ah, hmm how can I help, I have a 3G 00:26 < EvilDude> yeah, although I'm not sure what to compare to :P 00:26 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:27 < coob> well, you should have an image already built right? or did you use the installer? 00:27 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/makefw-3.diff <-- patch that against cvs ipodloader 00:27 < EvilDude> Used installer :( 00:27 < coob> ah ok :/ 00:28 < coob> you're on windows? 00:28 < EvilDude> yeah 00:28 < macPod> coob I'm here now 00:28 < EvilDude> but have a vmware ubuntu boot 00:28 < macPod> lemme get settled and I can test with the new kern 00:28 < coob> okiedoke 00:30 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:32 < coob> macpod if you'v not grabbed it you may need to regrab it (ipodlinux.sf.net/downloads/beta/Image.gz) 00:32 < coob> er -not 00:32 < macPod> changed again? 00:32 < coob> +e 00:32 < coob> yeah :) 00:34 < EvilDude> hmm courtc: you here? 00:34 < courtc> certainly 00:35 < EvilDude> Was wondering, have you implemented acceleration into your menu 00:36 < coob> heh does pseudocode count 00:36 < EvilDude> haha, well there's already that code on flyspray 00:36 < EvilDude> how hard can it be to implement that into the code 00:37 < courtc> I can in another 10 lines.. I might put it in tonight 00:37 < EvilDude> woot thought it'd be easy 00:38 < courtc> it has to go in each event loop 00:38 < EvilDude> oh really =\ 00:38 < EvilDude> I thought it might be implemented in main menu code osmehow 00:38 < EvilDude> somehow* but yeah i see why it can't 00:38 < courtc> not prettily 00:39 < courtc> wel.. I've gotta go finish cooking.. bbl 00:39 < EvilDude> ok 00:40 < macPod> looks like podzilla just got updated too 00:40 -!- linville [~linville@bilbo.tuxdriver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:40 < coob> yeah one in the beta dir? 00:40 < macPod> yep 00:40 < coob> yep. 00:40 < macPod> I'm guessing that was bern? 00:40 < EvilDude> macPod: how's the clock going? 00:40 < macPod> I've been busy evil 00:40 < macPod> I made an input "widget for it 00:41 < EvilDude> ah cool 00:41 < EvilDude> Can we integrate just the clock first? 00:41 < macPod> without the alarm? yep.. essentially that is writeen 00:41 < coob> the vector clock? 00:41 < macPod> yea 00:41 < macPod> bleu did that 00:41 < EvilDude> cool, coz I think podzilla really needs a clock 00:41 < coob> yeah i saw it 00:42 < EvilDude> and maybe one for top left corner too 00:42 < EvilDude> hmm can i take a look :D? 00:42 < macPod> ask bleu, I'm doing three things at once right now 00:42 < coob> top left is for status icons like hold... 00:42 < Vanquisher> hows the photo stuff coming along, anyone try it 00:42 < coob> Vanquisher: podzilla loads on a photo... 00:42 < EvilDude> macPod: haha ok 00:42 < coob> if you're leachbj :) 00:42 < Vanquisher> coob, anyone test it though 00:42 < EvilDude> coob: hmm are we going to have a footer? 00:43 < coob> well, the kernel stuff is actually there, you could probably use the beta image to test 00:43 < Vanquisher> anyone have a photo 00:43 < coob> EvilDude: i don't think so... 00:43 < coob> Vanquisher: yeah leachbj has a photo... 00:43 < Vanquisher> cool 00:43 < Vanquisher> :D 00:43 < Vanquisher> coob, hows sound support 00:43 < coob> what sound support. 00:43 < EvilDude> coob: damn, I was thinking a footer with like current song name (yes long way away) and some other things would be nice 00:43 < Vanquisher> coob, haha no sound yet :\? 00:43 < coob> EvilDude: waste of space... 00:44 < coob> what's sound 00:44 < coob> :) 00:44 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 00:44 < EvilDude> coob yeah i suppose :( 00:44 < Vanquisher> coob, lol.... 00:44 < coob> EvilDude: unless you want some of gent's really useful indicator icons like uh... a backlight icon! :) 00:44 < Vanquisher> lol 00:44 < EvilDude> coob: well you never know, some people might not realise their backlight's on!! :P actually in the sun that would be ok 00:45 < Vanquisher> with the photo its hard to tell if the backlight is on in the sun 00:45 < coob> i can still see my backlight in the sun... 00:45 < Vanquisher> which is why i set it 5 seconds 00:45 < Vanquisher> lol 00:45 < EvilDude> hmm i cant very clearly, not too sure if it is or not 00:45 < EvilDude> BleuLlama: you there? 00:46 < coob> maybe we just have shit sun in this country :) 00:46 < EvilDude> haha 00:46 < Vanquisher> coob, lol 00:46 < EvilDude> well it was summer here ;) 00:46 < coob> i'm suprised your ipod didn't melt in .au :/ 00:46 < EvilDude> hahaha 00:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 00:47 < Luke> how's it goin guys? 00:47 < coob> hi 00:47 < EvilDude> hey Luke 00:47 < macPod> they are taking away my powerbook :/ 00:47 < coob> :/ 00:47 < Luke> if I want a function to return a pointer to a struct, the prototype should look like 'struct name * function(stuff)' correct? 00:47 < EvilDude> ! why :P 00:47 < EvilDude> looks good to me 00:47 < Luke> hmm ok 00:47 < Vanquisher> i threw my 2G down the stairs 00:47 < coob> er 00:47 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@81.168.22.194] has quit ["Client exiting"] 00:47 < coob> name shouldn't be there... 00:48 < Luke> k 00:48 < Luke> i thought it looked a bit weird 00:48 < coob> struct * functionname(stuff) 00:48 < coob> i think.. 00:48 < EvilDude> coob: you dont need the the name of the struct you're tryign to return :|? 00:48 < EvilDude> I thought you did 00:48 < Luke> i donno 00:48 < coob> hmm maybe you do :/ 00:48 < Luke> i dont think so 00:48 < Luke> it doesnt seem consistant 00:49 < coob> typedef the struct and use that instead :) 00:49 < EvilDude> haha c usually needs everything 00:49 < Luke> but then again... this is C 00:49 < EvilDude> haha it needs struct name im pretty sure 00:49 < coob> maybe the * is in the wrong place, i dunno 00:49 < coob> i know [ ] that much about pointers 00:49 < Luke> lemme check my C man 00:49 < coob> and [ ] that much about C. 00:49 < Luke> hahaha 00:50 < EvilDude> haha 00:50 < Luke> yea believe it or not - you dont need the name 00:51 < Luke> cause where would the name be used? 00:52 < Luke> i think in the prototype the name is optional (so you know what youre returning) but in the decairation it doesnt seem to be used 00:52 < EvilDude> :| i dont get it :P 00:52 < EvilDude> ah well 00:52 < Luke> eh= ) 00:52 < Luke> its insignificant anyway 00:52 < EvilDude> haha yeah 00:54 < EvilDude> well all my code uses struct name * haha 00:54 < EvilDude> ah well 00:54 < Luke> yea and my syntax highlighting doesnt work without the name as well =) 00:54 < Luke> hrm 00:55 < EvilDude> haha I say name needed :D 00:55 < Luke> must be one of thse damn optional things 00:55 < EvilDude> yeah 00:55 < Luke> thanks for checking 00:55 < courtc> typedef! 00:55 < coob> well if its only returning a pointer... 00:56 < coob> yeah typedef is for winners. 00:56 < Luke> ooooh you know why - its not the name of the struct, its the TYPE of the struct 00:56 < coob> hence use typedef... 00:56 < courtc> mlist.[ch] are good examples 00:56 < coob> does anyone have the matrix revolutions on dvd? 00:56 < Luke> nope 00:56 < coob> or reloaded 00:57 < coob> and mind ripping the credits for me? :) 00:57 < EvilDude> i meant the type :| haha 00:58 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-093-231.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 00:59 < courtc> typedef struct _some_st {...}some_st; 00:59 < courtc> some_st *function(some_st *something) 01:01 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:04 < EvilDude> hmm can you guys recommend me a hell fast linux distro coz ubuntu is getting boring, too slow, and doesn't boot anymore =\ 01:04 < courtc> haha.. use archlinux.. its easy and i686 opt 01:05 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162190228.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:05 < EvilDude> cool, does it have gui and all though :P? 01:05 < Vanquisher> EvilDude, gentoo 01:05 < EvilDude> Or would i need to install seperately 01:06 < courtc> not for installation.. but 'pacman -S xorg' should get it for ya 01:06 < EvilDude> so Gentoo is more noob friendly in comparison though 01:06 < Z_Man> what is the kernel version for ipl that will work on a mini? 01:07 < courtc> EvilDude- no 01:07 < courtc> Z_Man- cvs 01:07 < Vanquisher> EvilDude, rofl gentoo isnt noob friendly 01:07 < EvilDude> haha well vidalinux, based on gentoo looks very nice 01:07 < EvilDude> and if gentoo is fast, I would be happy 01:08 < EvilDude> and by noob friendly, it doesnt have to be THAT noob friendly, i can get around using terminal, just prefer to see folder structure at times 01:08 < Z_Man> courtc: yeah i know, but is it under linux-2.6 ?? 01:08 < coob> see folder structure? 01:08 < coob> man tree! 01:08 < courtc> no.. module linux 01:08 < EvilDude> hahaha I prefer GUI based ;) 01:08 -!- joecool|food is now known as joecool 01:08 < Z_Man> ok, courtc i'm lost 01:09 < EvilDude> VidaLinux looks very pretty, but how easy is it to install packages / whatever Gentoo uses? 01:09 < courtc> EvilDude- pretty meas zilch 01:09 < courtc> means* 01:09 < EvilDude> courtc: haha yeah true 01:09 < EvilDude> But it also means it looks useable 01:10 < EvilDude> (its got an OSX kinda dock, what else could i want :P) 01:10 < courtc> what i mean is that any distro has the ability to look like any other.. 01:11 < EvilDude> ah yeah 01:11 < EvilDude> I changed my ubuntu completely, but still would rather not change stuff 01:11 < courtc> the deciding factor should be what kind of package management you want.. 01:11 < EvilDude> ah ok 01:11 < EvilDude> well is gentoo package management any good 01:11 < coob> http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html 01:11 < Z_Man> courtc: so where do i start? 01:11 < courtc> its very good, but all source based.. so you have to compile everything.. 01:12 < coob> If an advisor says to me "My liege, he is but one man. What can one man possibly do?", I will reply "This." and kill the advisor. 01:12 < EvilDude> courtc: even better for getting used to linux i suppose :D 01:12 < courtc> coob- I've read that list.. its hilarious 01:12 < Z_Man> i need to at least know what the correct sources to download 01:12 < courtc> EvilDude- not really.. it doues all the building for you.. 01:13 < coob> best one = I will design fortress hallways with no alcoves or protruding structural supports which intruders could use for cover in a firefight. 01:13 < joecool> i'm setttin up a build enviroment for a photo... i might be able to get some short clips for you guys by tommorow 01:13 < coob> they *always* do that in scifi sshows 01:13 < coob> joecool: you have a photo? 01:13 < joecool> coob: no, but my friend does 01:13 < coob> shouldn't need to build anything.. the beta kernel and podzillas should work fine on one... 01:13 < joecool> and i'm ssh'ed into his system :P 01:13 < joecool> coob: well.. i like my shit new 01:14 < EvilDude> courtc: isnt that same as Debian then? actually don't most package systems download source and build 01:14 < coob> uh ok but these betas were build, like, an hour ago. 01:14 < coob> built* 01:14 < joecool> coob: so? i'd still like to have a build enviroment built 01:14 < coob> EvilDude: most download binaries and install.. 01:14 < joecool> so i can easilly update 01:14 < coob> whatever takes your fancy! 01:15 < courtc> EvilDude- debian uses biray packages 01:15 < courtc> binary* 01:15 < EvilDude> ohh ok, i thought i read somewhere it built, but maybe that's only some 01:15 < joecool> coob: hehe.. i'm sorry.. i'm obsessive about doing it my way... i couldn't wait for the kde-3.4 tarballs... so i built them myself 2 days ago 01:15 < joecool> about 30 things on my system are cvs, and are updated every 1 to 2 weeks 01:16 < coob> they took less than 2 days to build? :) 01:16 < courtc> I wouldn't wish building kde on my worst enemy.. 01:18 < joecool> its not bad... 01:19 < joecool> if ccacheing is set up right.. it goes pretty quick 01:19 < joecool> even on a slow system 01:19 < joecool> i slashed my compile times in half for it.. its under 6 hours now to do it all 01:20 < courtc> 6 hours to compile something not worth 30 seconds.. 01:20 < joecool> courtc: what are you talking about? 01:20 < courtc> kde.. 01:21 < joecool> yeah.. and? why would you say its not worth the time? 01:21 < courtc> hmm.. have you ever used a kde app? 01:21 < joecool> all the time 01:21 < courtc> I'm so sorry.. 01:21 < joecool> have you ever used a gnome app? 01:22 < courtc> have a few times.. 01:22 < joecool> i'm sorry to hear, musta been a bad experiance 01:22 < courtc> yep, but nowhere near as bad as kde 01:22 < joecool> no way 01:23 * courtc avoids and DE 01:23 < courtc> any* 01:23 < Z_Man> could anybody telnet into my system and help me? i'm using Windows (that's why it's telnet) and i'm using Cygwin. 01:23 < joecool> kbluetoothd and konsole are two things that gnome can't touch on 01:23 < courtc> hahahahhaha Z_Man you don't want to ask that 01:23 < joecool> i have slimmed down my kde.. i only use the apps i need 01:23 < coob> gnome/kde both childs play compared to os x :) 01:23 < joecool> and i don't use it as my WM 01:23 < joecool> i use openbox3 :P 01:23 < Vanquisher> ob3!! :D 01:24 < Z_Man> courtc: then what do i do? i really want to see ipl on my mini 01:24 < joecool> Vanquisher = ob3 bot :P 01:24 < courtc> coob- I'll agree with that ;) 01:24 < courtc> Z_Man- wait a few days 01:24 < joecool> did he just say telnet?! 01:25 < Z_Man> cause that's all i have 01:25 < Z_Man> oh 01:25 < Z_Man> what yes 01:25 < Z_Man> i thought you asked something else.. lol 01:25 < courtc> Z_Man- you can actually set up a ssh server on cygwin.. 01:25 < EvilDude> coob: hell yeah, os x wins :D 01:25 < joecool> yeah.. lol 01:26 < Z_Man> courtc: ok, and why should a wait a few days is there something that is going to happen in those next three days? 01:26 < joecool> i'll only say the osx owns on ppc :P 01:26 < Z_Man> err.. three = few 01:26 < EvilDude> joecool: haha have you tried pearpc? 01:26 < courtc> for a DE OS X wins.. but I prefer less DE and more ... um.. nothing 01:27 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup073.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 < joecool> courtc: osx is pretty good.. how about XFCE though? 01:27 < joecool> thats not too bloated 01:27 < courtc> XFCE == wannabe DE 01:27 < coob> depends what im using it for... 01:28 < joecool> i don't use XFCE, i'm just throwin it out.. i use ob3, and i like it for my WM 01:28 < courtc> Z_Man- we are trying to move towards a realese date.. 01:28 < joecool> and kde has the best apps for my needs... forget using things like bluetooth on gnome or any other de 01:28 < Z_Man> courtc: 4g/mini development is coming along now? 01:28 < coob> what things other than bluetooth... 01:29 < joecool> k3b is best frontend for burning 01:29 < joecool> konsole is hands down the best term, well.. debatable on that, i like aterm for a basic term 01:30 < courtc> i prefer using cdrecord.. heh 01:30 < joecool> courtc: i said FRONTEND 01:30 < Z_Man> and the hold switch works now? 01:30 < courtc> yep, who need one? 01:30 < joecool> Z_Man: yep 01:30 < courtc> Z_Man- yep.. 01:30 < joecool> courtc: people who feel lazy like me need it 01:30 < coob> cdrdao :) 01:30 < Vanquisher> xcdroast 01:30 * joecool shoots vanquisher 01:31 < Vanquisher> lol 01:31 < Z_Man> ok 01:31 < Vanquisher> k3b is my choice though, lol...im lazy bumb 01:31 < joecool> hey its done downloadin the toolchain on your box vanquisher 01:31 < joecool> finally.. your 56k sucks 01:31 < Vanquisher> wonderful 01:31 < Vanquisher> rofl 01:31 < Vanquisher> yeah i know 01:32 < joecool> hey, if you wanna see what i'm doin 01:32 < joecool> type screen -x shit 01:32 < Vanquisher> lol 01:32 < courtc> alright back on topic.. http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1280&start=30 I don't understand how this is still staying alive.. 01:33 < joecool> Vanquisher: are you downloading pr0n? there is sure alot of lag 01:33 < Vanquisher> joecool, my dad is on the net 01:33 < joecool> downloading pr0n? 01:33 < Vanquisher> joecool, no 01:33 < EvilDude> ahaha 01:35 < Z_Man> lokl 01:35 < coob> courtc: probably because it has snake in it... 01:35 < EvilDude> hmm what are the chances gcc4 when it's actually completed with the optimizations will help mp3 playback much :D? 01:36 < courtc> coob- implement snake! and make it relative.. ;) 01:36 < courtc> j/k 01:36 < EvilDude> haha 01:36 < EvilDude> why doesn't cvs have snake? 01:36 < courtc> EvilDude- chances are that it will slow it down.. 01:36 < Vanquisher> EvilDude, no idea, i use it though 01:36 < Vanquisher> :D 01:37 < EvilDude> courtc: is it huge or something? 01:37 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup073.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:37 < courtc> EvilDude- that was in ref to gcc4 01:38 < joecool> Vanquisher: you runnin gcc4 still? 01:38 < Z_Man> oh, i heard about the gcc4 preview thing... 01:38 < EvilDude> courtc: oh really =\ 01:38 < Vanquisher> joecool, sure 01:38 < courtc> re: snake in cvs.. its not relative :( ... oh and we are afraid of djaconil's code.. 01:38 < Vanquisher> joecool, now and then 01:38 < EvilDude> courtc: I meant not the preview but the one we'll see later with optimizations and stuff 01:38 < joecool> you're nuts.. 01:39 < EvilDude> courtc: hmm is djaconil's code that scary :P 01:39 < joecool> ... oh well, i'll end up fixin your box again.. 01:39 < Z_Man> lol, gcc has been around longer than i have... 01:39 < EvilDude> in comparison to say itunesmenu.c ;)? 01:40 < courtc> itunesmenu.c isn't scary, its just made to work with the btree stuff.. which (supposedly) is what makes it faster than previous implementations.. 01:41 < courtc> afk.. more cooking required 01:42 < EvilDude> courtc: yeah the btree stuff is good but also makes it messy 01:42 < EvilDude> ok 01:43 < coob> i'd rather code my own snake :) 01:43 < EvilDude> haha 01:43 < EvilDude> why not base it on BleuLlama's code 01:44 < coob> probably easier to report nxsnake than dabble with conilcode tho heh 01:46 < EvilDude> coob: under os x can you still do things like recording through podzilla or is that disabled 01:46 -!- dup [~ddup1@dupnet.org] has joined #ipodlinux 01:46 < coob> disabled.. 01:47 < coob> no dsp interface.. 01:47 < EvilDude> hmm what apart from audio stuff is disabled in os x 01:47 < coob> itunes menu stuff 01:47 < EvilDude> oh damn =\ how come? 01:47 < coob> libitunesdb doesn't like big endian it seems 01:47 < coob> strings get garbled :/ 01:47 < EvilDude> ah ok, so basically linux is best for dev then 01:47 < EvilDude> hmm i still want a mac =\ 01:48 < coob> i guess... i do all my dev on osx 01:48 < coob> and just dont play with itunesmenu stuff :) 01:49 < EvilDude> hehe 01:52 < EvilDude> hm bbl, time to make and eat lunch 01:52 < coob> time for 40 winks :/ 01:55 < macPod> you mean 40 hands? 01:57 < macPod> xp sp2 takes so long to install on a mac :/ 01:57 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < Z_Man> hmm.. since ipl only uses the firmware partition does that mean i can still use iTunes to sync my music library on my computer with my ipod mini? 02:07 * MaDsKiLLz waits patiently for an update on the ipod photo progress 02:08 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-211-141.tbaytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:09 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 02:09 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-208-63.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:15 < BleuLlama> you don't want to base a snake game on my pod draw code 02:15 < BleuLlama> trust me. 02:15 < BleuLlama> i was thinking about it, and i'd start from scratch to turn that into a game 02:15 < BleuLlama> it's *VERY* simplistic, doing just barely what it needs to work. hehe 02:16 < BleuLlama> but hey, if you want to, go for it... i just don't recommend it. 02:16 < BleuLlama> :) 02:16 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 02:19 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:23 -!- Z_Man is now known as zachary 02:23 -!- zachary is now known as Z_Man 02:28 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:30 * BleuLlama switches to listen to 02:30 < BleuLlama> oops 02:53 -!- linville [~linville@bilbo.tuxdriver.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:59 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:00 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 03:01 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:03 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["brb"] 03:04 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 03:32 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:33 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-093-231.woh.rr.com] has quit ["Gluon IRC, conductor of the masses !"] 03:47 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 03:48 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:49 < Wammy> veteran 03:49 < Wammy> you there? 03:50 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup194.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:54 < joecool> all -Wl,-elf2flt -c -o itunesdb.lo `test -f 'itunesdb.c' || echo './'`itunesdb.c 03:54 < joecool> Waiting for itunesdb.o.lock to be removed 03:54 < joecool> ?? 04:05 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["zZzZzZ"] 04:21 -!- jnguy [~jnguy@70.18.13.113] has joined #ipodlinux 04:24 -!- jnguy [~jnguy@70.18.13.113] has quit [Client Quit] 04:27 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm69-45-208-47.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["OMFG n00bs I'm out"] 04:46 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:47 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:04 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:12 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:15 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:16 -!- tailgrabb [~jc@63.172.79.154] has joined #ipodlinux 05:22 -!- jedix [~jedix@CPE0050bf9eb1bb-CM014090213885.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:24 < BleuLlama> long day at work. 05:24 * BleuLlama just got home 05:26 < courtc> wow.. 05:26 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:27 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:34 < courtc> hmm.. spaghetti accident.. sounds tragic 05:38 < BleuLlama> yeah. had a sort-of deadline... told them i'd cut them an installer by 'end of thursday'... heh 05:38 < BleuLlama> didn't want it to slip the date... 05:39 < courtc> haha 05:39 < courtc> they didn't think you meant literally ;) 05:39 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup251.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:39 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup251.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 05:42 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit ["gone"] 05:56 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup251.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:57 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup251.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 05:59 < BleuLlama> nah. they're serious... things wouldn't be good for me if i didn't meet the deadline 06:00 < BleuLlama> sweet. just scored two 4gig scsi 3.5" disks, one 9gig scsi full height 5.25" disk, and two 2.5" IDE laptop hard drives (one 6, one 20 gig) 06:01 < Wammy> hey hey hey! how much you sell me that 20gb laptop drive? 06:01 < BleuLlama> not for sale 06:01 < BleuLlama> for projects. :) 06:01 < Wammy> oh bah 06:01 < Wammy> i need to upgrade my ibook 06:01 < Wammy> 6gb aint enough. 06:02 < Wammy> nite. 06:02 < courtc> heh, I meant I think 12:00 wasn't what they were aiming for with the 'end of thursday' 06:02 < BleuLlama> well, they need to install and review the application friday and monday, so basically, as long as it was available by tomorrow morning, it's all good 06:03 < courtc> :) 06:04 -!- xcheddargoldfish [~xcheddarg@pcp05316387pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:13 < Gent> yargh 06:13 < EvilDude> hey Gent 06:14 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:20 < Gent> hola 06:23 < EvilDude> How goes 06:23 < Gent> not bad, how's by you? 06:24 < EvilDude> Fair few tests coming in 2 weeks, but holidays after that so awesome then :P 06:24 < EvilDude> I should be able to work on a few things then too 06:25 < Gent> yeah, I'm looking about for fonts right now... 06:25 < Gent> my sbp2 driver is fucked or something 06:25 < Gent> it absolutely does not want to grab my iPod 06:25 < EvilDude> ah damn 06:25 < EvilDude> well my ubuntu boot is completely fuked, it doesn't boot ;) I have to depend on vmware's "snapshots" 06:57 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:05 -!- tailgrabb [~jc@63.172.79.154] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:15 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:25 < kurced> /quit 07:25 < kurced> exit 07:25 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-70-93-114-138.socal.res.rr.com] has quit ["Hold on to yourself...This is gonna hurt like hell..."] 07:41 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:59 -!- cohmapapphome [~cohmapapp@c-67-161-71-118.client.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:26 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- Somatic_ [serotine@cpc1-tref1-5-0-cust60.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 09:26 -!- Somatic [serotine@cpc1-tref1-5-0-cust60.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:43 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:51 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162190228.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:51 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162190228.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:52 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-208-63.tbaytel.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:53 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@216.26.208.63] has joined #ipodlinux 10:00 -!- Dr_Unvis1ble [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-208-63.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:08 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@216.26.208.63] has quit [Client Quit] 10:18 -!- rage_ is now known as rage 10:22 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-0675.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:26 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:33 -!- bLeW_ [~blew@stjhnf01bb8-142162190228.nl.aliant.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:54 -!- Dr_Unvis1ble [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-208-63.tbaytel.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:55 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 10:59 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-199-69.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 11:59 -!- Vikking [~Vikking@ip-81-11-202-212.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:03 -!- Vikking is now known as vikAFK 12:04 -!- vikAFK is now known as vikking 12:19 -!- Psybur [~chimp@69-172-56-234.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:20 < Psybur> Hey, how does one mount a15 GB ipod through an audigy 2's firewire port? 12:20 < Psybur> I usefedora core 3 12:21 -!- teuf [~teuf@82.127.10.137] has joined #ipodlinux 12:22 < vikking> i can't mount my ipod mini (the battery loads but thats all) 12:22 < vikking> and no i didn't install ipodlinux 12:25 < teuf> vikking, firewire ? 12:31 -!- syfte [~Syfte@212.199.140.2.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 12:33 < syfte> hi , i've tried to compile podzilla both in the linux way and through windows-cygwin way and in both cases it fails ... note that i havn't made any modifications in the source 12:43 -!- Psybur [~chimp@69-172-56-234.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:46 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 12:47 -!- F-F_^hmf^ [~FF_hmf@ipv6.have-more-fun.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:51 -!- teuf [~teuf@82.127.10.137] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:56 -!- linville [~linville@nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:00 -!- syfte [~Syfte@212.199.140.2.forward.012.net.il] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 13:16 -!- dup [~ddup1@dupnet.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:48 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 14:01 -!- vikking [~Vikking@ip-81-11-202-212.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:04 -!- Skitzo [~banned@dialup-126.98.220.203.acc02-waym-adl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:04 < Skitzo> Hey hey 14:06 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-202-88.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:08 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:08 -!- zer0python_ [~zer0pytho@pcp0011004121pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:09 -!- zer0python_ [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has quit [Client Quit] 14:11 < Sereroku> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/christian/autoconf-2.59/doc' 14:11 < Sereroku> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. 14:11 < Sereroku> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/christian/autoconf-2.59/doc' 14:11 < Sereroku> <- is this normal @the end of autoconf 2.59 make? 14:19 < Sereroku> hm ok works but another problem, i cant build libitunesdb 14:21 < Sereroku> ah now it works =) 14:24 < Sereroku> i compiled podzilla for my f*ckin desktop 14:24 < Sereroku> ;) 14:26 -!- poolio [~bpoolio@pcp0011738089pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:28 -!- tlg [~tlg@197-238.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 14:30 < Sereroku> anyone from germany here? 14:30 < Skitzo> I'm from Australia. :-) 14:30 < Sereroku> -.- 14:32 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:35 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit [Client Quit] 15:06 -!- bLeW__ [~blew@stjh1-0675.nl.aliant.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:06 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-0675.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:09 -!- Skitzo [~banned@dialup-126.98.220.203.acc02-waym-adl.comindico.com.au] has quit ["C++ programmers do it with class."] 15:10 < BleuLlama> my ancestors are from germany... 15:14 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has joined #ipodlinux 15:14 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 15:16 < BleuLlama> i believe i'm 1/4 german, 1/4 austrian and 1/2 russian.... 15:20 -!- leachbj_ [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has joined #ipodlinux 15:24 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:38 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 < Sereroku> when i make an error installing linux manually from Linux to my 4G (Kernel etc) can i use the installer to fix everything? 16:11 < Sereroku> *when i make a mistake 16:11 < Sereroku> ;) 16:24 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:26 < BleuLlama> the installer doesn't support 4g yet. 16:26 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:29 < Sereroku> i dont want to do with installer 16:29 < BleuLlama> in the very least, if you totally screw it up, you can always run the restore utility on a mac/pc-windows and then run the 4g installer when it's made 16:30 < Sereroku> oook 16:30 < BleuLlama> but the restore step will wipe your disk, obviously 16:31 < BleuLlama> i'm personally jsut waiting for the 4g installer to be done, then i'll use that. until then, i can build podzilla on my desktop and for my 1g... not that i ever boot into linux on the 1g nowadays... 16:32 < BleuLlama> with the directions on the wiki, it's dirt simple to get a build going for your desktop, so just do that for now. 16:32 < Sereroku> i built for desktop already ;) 16:32 < Sereroku> thats no problem 16:32 < Sereroku> i want to develop but its soooo difficult, i dont know where to start 16:33 < BleuLlama> this is one of the easier collaborative projects ive worked on, actually... 16:33 < Sereroku> m hm 16:33 < BleuLlama> code is layed out reasonably well, plenty of exaples of doing all sorts of things, all of the apis are relatively documented in their source (nanox, etc) 16:34 < BleuLlama> not like the window manager i recently hacked, where the code was all to some strange indenting scheme, with zero comments in it... it took forever just to figure out how things were working, let alone that they were. 16:34 < Sereroku> ;) 16:35 < BleuLlama> and the only person who actually worked on that project did it in 1998, and wouldn't respond to emails. turns out he has a second email addy that he reads more frequently. 16:36 < Sereroku> wow oO 16:36 < Sereroku> ^^ 16:46 -!- Vanquisher [~Van@vanquisher.user] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:48 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:48 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:49 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 < Sereroku> how can i change the permission on a file??? 16:50 < coob> man chmod 16:50 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:50 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 16:56 < BleuLlama> hah! man'ing chmod won't change permissions on a file. you're such a noob... 16:56 < BleuLlama> oh. i understand. nevermind. 17:08 < Somatic_> ROFL 17:13 < Somatic_> donkey ;) 17:17 < Somatic_> Mar 18 17:13:58 TCP: blackjack connection attempt from 185-216.243.81.adsl.skyne 17:17 < Somatic_> t.be (81.243.216.185):2065 17:17 < Somatic_> oops 17:29 -!- poolio [~bpoolio@pcp0011738089pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:29 -!- xcheddargoldfish [~xcheddarg@pcp05316387pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- leachbj_ [~chatzilla@213.52.151.191] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050226]"] 18:22 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:22 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 18:25 < Sereroku> when i use printf function to convert an integer into a string doesnt work, compiling and all works but when i open the "Game" the podzilla window closes 18:25 < Sereroku> any other way to convert integer to string... 18:25 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:26 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:26 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 18:34 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-095b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 18:34 < BleuLlama> well, printf will just send the output to standard out 18:34 < BleuLlama> you probably mean sprintf... but you probably need itoa 18:35 < BleuLlama> er no... you need sprintf 18:35 < BleuLlama> itoa doesn't exist. was thinking of atoi 18:35 < fre_ber> :) Hello everybody. 18:35 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o Luke ] by Luke 18:36 < Luke> hey guys 18:36 < BleuLlama> heya luke and fre 18:36 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:37 < fre_ber> What's up? 18:40 < BleuLlama> nuthin. procrastinating work 18:40 < BleuLlama> you? 18:40 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:40 < fre_ber> Same here.. :( 18:42 < BleuLlama> just eating a pop tart, listening to devo, avoiding work 18:42 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:43 < fre_ber> Posting in forums, drinking Coke, listening to Pet Shop Boys (!), avoiding work.. :p 18:43 < BleuLlama> which album? or just some collection of songs? 18:44 < fre_ber> Hang on, I only have one album, but I can't remember it's name. 18:44 * fre_ber is listening to Pet Shop Boys - Suburbia (headphones)''8 18:44 < BleuLlama> ah. good one. 18:44 < fre_ber> Album is labeled "Please". 18:45 < BleuLlama> i need to dig out my PSB cds and rip them to my ipod 18:45 < BleuLlama> i always liked "paninaro" :) 18:45 < fre_ber> The first CD player my CDs gets played in is the CD-ROM for ripping. ;) 18:45 < BleuLlama> hehehe 18:46 < BleuLlama> i've been trying to recreate my ipod collection, since i had to start from scratch. :( 18:46 < xcheddargoldfish> [ 18:46 < xcheddargoldfish> =[ 18:46 < fre_ber> Ouch, I just had to copy it over. :) 18:47 < BleuLlama> yeah. well, my 4g is in a box, on its way back to apple... and a new 20+ hour battery for my 1g is in a box on its way to me. :D 18:48 < fre_ber> :) I have to repair my repaired remote connector. 18:48 < Sereroku> oO 18:49 < BleuLlama> can you pull the serial lines from the dock connector instead? I think there's someone on the forums selling dock connectors for like $2... you could make an ubermega breakout cable... 18:50 < BleuLlama> line out, firewire jack, usb-b connector, serial port, power connector, etc. 18:50 < fre_ber> Yes, I have been thinking about that. But a guy at work claims to have found a company that sells them too. I need to check the pricing. :) 18:51 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup231.ts007.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:51 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup231.ts007.bmt.esat.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 18:59 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:22 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:36 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 19:42 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:03 -!- Luke [~Luke@69-172-0-79.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 20:05 -!- Shadowarrior13 [~shadowkiw@ip68-2-182-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:06 < Shadowarrior13> Can I use USB instead of firewire when manually compiling and installing podzilla? 20:07 -!- Krankheit [~main@dialup-4.156.102.206.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:09 < Shadowarrior13> Anyone? 20:14 < BleuLlama> try it? 20:15 < Shadowarrior13> lol 20:15 < Shadowarrior13> Ok :P 20:19 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm69-45-208-47.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:22 -!- tlg_ [~tlg@49-241.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- tlg [~tlg@197-238.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:30 -!- Sereroku [~NNSCRIPT@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:31 -!- tlg_ is now known as tlg 20:32 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:34 -!- Serer0ku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #ipodlinux 20:36 -!- Serer0ku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20:47 < Shadowarrior13> When I plug the iPod into a debian box, it doesn't see it or go into disk mode. Suggestions? 20:48 < BleuLlama> how about force booting the ipod into disk mode 20:48 < Shadowarrior13> I do this how? 20:48 < BleuLlama> different ways, depending on what gen ipod. it's in the wiki 20:49 < Shadowarrior13> Cool 20:50 < Shadowarrior13> Thanks 20:51 < Sereroku> sprintf function question, whats the 2nd parameter??? i dont know what i should type in oO 20:52 -!- Shados [~asd@ool-44c15874.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:52 < BleuLlama> look up a basic c tutorial, sere. 20:52 < fre_ber> man sprintf ? 20:52 < Sereroku> i cant find a tutorial! 20:52 < BleuLlama> try using a search engine like google. 20:53 < fre_ber> No sarcasm detected. 20:53 < Sereroku> -.- 20:54 < BleuLlama> or perhaps buy a 'learn to program in c' book. those are good reference as well. I recommend this one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131103628/qid=1111179248 21:00 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:05 < Sereroku> i got a tutorial, i read it complete ;) 21:06 -!- linville [~linville@nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:06 < BleuLlama> so the lesson learned here? don't complain in here before trying to find it yourself first. i cant find a tutorial! 21:08 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:09 < TX297> Woo 21:09 < TX297> They replaced my iPod 21:10 < TX297> Entire replacement... not waiting around for them to do "diagnostics" or "repairs" 21:10 < joecool> TX297: cool, now its back to conquering the world 21:10 < joecool> mwhahahahaha 21:11 < BleuLlama> i need to drop mine off at DHL to have apple fix it 21:11 < joecool> DHL? 21:11 < BleuLlama> package shipment company, like UPS or FedEx 21:12 < joecool> oh yeah, i remember now 21:12 < BleuLlama> apparantly apple is using them now... 21:12 < joecool> thats better then steve jobs on a moped i guess 21:13 < fre_ber> Steve Jobs on a moped would be cool. 21:13 < joecool> it would be funny.. almost as funny as steve ballmer on a bike 21:13 < joecool> going down a hill "YEAHHHH-HOOOO, I....LOVE...THIS.....COMPANY!!" 21:13 < TX297> I just took mine to the Apple store and they have a stockpile of them in the back 21:14 < fre_ber> Ouch, that image is now burned in my mind forever, curse you! 21:14 < joecool> curse the leuprechaun for telling me 21:15 < joecool> BleuLlama: heh, i have that book :P 21:15 < BleuLlama> tx: mine's engraved, so i need to send it in, and it takes 2-3 weeks they claim. :( 21:16 < BleuLlama> joe: it's the best book for learning C that i've found. 21:16 < BleuLlama> and it's awesome reference 21:16 < joecool> yeah.. its a little rough on the beginner to any language 21:16 < joecool> but it makes up for it in how loaded it is 21:18 < TX297> BleuLlama: Gotcha 21:18 < BleuLlama> i can't really complain. I screwed up, and the ipod was a gift to begin with. hehe 21:19 < BleuLlama> (i wired a cig lighter jack backwards, blowing the charging circuit in the ipod) 21:19 < BleuLlama> but unlike pirate penguin, i don't want ot wast $300, so i'm sending it in for repairs 21:19 < BleuLlama> *waste 21:19 < joecool> BleuLlama: hahaha, learning how to wire cars? 21:20 < TX297> BleuLlama: AppleCare is the most useful thing you'll buy for your iPod :/ 21:20 < BleuLlama> wiring in a friend's car stereo, and putting a belkin power adapter inside the dash, so that it can power on with the stereo, and there's no ground-loop interference or anything like that 21:20 < TX297> Extends the warranty to 2 years and they just do replacements instead of trying to fix it then charging you if it needs to be replaced 21:20 < BleuLlama> the problem was that the wiring harness i made at home, i had to scrap, so i wired the cig jack in the car to the existing harness, but i was careless (and fucking freezing) and made a mistake. hehehe 21:21 < TX297> whoops 21:21 < BleuLlama> i asked my belkin friends about their cig power adapter "yeah, we just assume that the car is wired correctly"... which there's no reason it shouldn't be... unless you're an idiot like me. hehe 21:21 < TX297> Belkin... should've had a thyristor in it to prevent that kind of thing :/ 21:21 < BleuLlama> even so, it would have been fine had my ipod not been plugged in at the time 21:22 < TX297> Not a thyristor, duh 21:22 < joecool> BleuLlama: were you drinking in that cold weather? :P 21:22 < TX297> Rectifier or something 21:22 < BleuLlama> their unit works fine now, i just shouldn't have had the ipod plugged in while experimenting with the wiring 21:22 < BleuLlama> yeah. a bridge rectifier on the input line would work 21:22 < TX297> relatively inexpensive component at any rate 21:22 < BleuLlama> but it's added expense for them, for a case that really, should never happen 21:23 < BleuLlama> if my ipod wasn't under warranty, i'd complain to belkin. 21:23 < BleuLlama> and belkin is *really* good about sending out replacements or fixing things. 21:23 < TX297> Anything to save a penny in mass-production, especially since it's designed to work with something that should be wired properly 21:23 < BleuLlama> exactly 21:23 < TX297> Belkin is a good company though 21:23 < TX297> They actually make quality products 21:24 < joecool> mmm.. their bluetooth adaptors leave much to be desired for 21:24 < BleuLlama> when they had their "battery pack catching fire" issue a while ago, there was someone on the net who complained to hell about this happening. nevermind that it really was his own damned fault that his ipod and battery pack melted down... 21:24 < BleuLlama> but what he never said was that belkin sent him a brand new ipod and replacement battery pack 21:24 < TX297> Only thing I have a complaint with Belkin is the Tunecast II FM transmitter 21:25 < BleuLlama> oh, none of the fm transmitters work well. they all suck 21:25 < joecool> true.. they can't send good quality at all 21:25 < TX297> Belkin's one is really good quality, decent bass despite the compression 21:25 < BleuLlama> i had a belkin one, and it just sucked batteries, and never worked well at all 21:25 < joecool> hmm.. i gotta work on makin a line in somehow to my car's radio 21:25 < TX297> If I have it plugged in, though, it'll still shut off if the audio source is too quiet 21:26 < joecool> cassete adaptors suck.. they add some tinnyness to it 21:26 < TX297> Yeah 21:26 < TX297> I had a radioshack adapter and the plug fell off 21:26 < TX297> It sucked anyway 21:26 < BleuLlama> the stereo i was installing (like mine) has an aux jack. 21:26 < TX297> Made a "boom" whenever I hit a bump 21:26 < joecool> rofl 21:26 < TX297> BleuLlama: You're lucky. 21:26 < BleuLlama> you can get them cheap 21:26 < TX297> Only way to get stuff into my stereo is through fiber optic 21:27 < BleuLlama> this one was a higher end one (played mp3 cds, rather than just regular cds) and cost $130 21:27 < BleuLlama> AIWA has a basic cd player with aux jack for $100 21:27 < BleuLlama> good sound, great radio reception, detachable faceplate, etc... 21:27 < TX297> I want to keep everything in my car OEM though 21:27 < TX297> Apart from maybe the speakers 21:27 < joecool> TX297: fiber optic is nice.. its just nothing has the digital outs.. a few things like my minidisc player have digital line ins.. but no outs 21:28 < TX297> joecool: It's fiber optic for the CD-changer input 21:28 < BleuLlama> i always order car stuff through crutchfield; they send you everything you need to make a wiring harness adapter. pull out the factory stereo, unplug it, plug in the home-built wiring harness, plug that into the stereo, shove it in the dash, done. 21:28 < TX297> It also supports full CD-text or in the case of the ice>link, ID3 data 21:28 < BleuLlama> unfortunately, in this case, the previous owner hacked the car's wiring harness. idiot. 21:29 < TX297> It also has support for a phone link, so I'm building a bluetooth adapter for it right now 21:31 < joecool> mmm, i'd love to do that... 21:31 < joecool> i'd also love to make a bluetooth adaptor from ipod to car 21:31 < BleuLlama> i didn't think bluetooth audio was good enough quality 21:31 < TX297> I'm getting the ice>link installed in the glove box 21:32 < joecool> BleuLlama: depends.. its definetly better then FM 21:32 < TX297> Then hacking apart a blueooth adapter and adapting it to the propietary standards of my stereo 21:32 < joecool> if its a data link, you could push well over 512kbps easilly 21:32 < joecool> up to 1.5mbps theoretically 21:35 < TX297> http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/22/the_next_generation_of_ipod_integration 21:35 < TX297> and http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=898 21:37 -!- TX297 [h@adsl-68-88-200-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:42 -!- rempresent [~rempresen@12-240-12-154.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:42 < rempresent> Hello everyone, I am brand new to trying to get the Linux kernal on my iPod, I just recently lost my Mac and am totally Linux independed 21:43 < rempresent> *independent 21:43 < rempresent> I have a few questions, is this a pretty easy process? 21:43 < joecool> what generation ipod do you have? 21:48 -!- Shadowarrior13 [~shadowkiw@ip68-2-182-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:49 -!- Shadowarrior13 [~shadowkiw@ip68-2-182-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:55 -!- Krankhei1 [~main@dialup-4.156.105.124.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 < rempresent> 2nd generation 21:58 < rempresent> is anyone here, I am already having troubles during the fdisk portion of the installation procedures 21:59 -!- Krankheit [~main@dialup-4.156.102.206.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:02 < joecool> rempresent: i'm here 22:02 < joecool> are you reading the wiki? 22:06 < rempresent> no 22:06 < rempresent> i am using the tutorial... sorry i was busy looking at the partitions 22:06 < rempresent> i have a 10GB and it isn't giving me the results that I need... 22:06 < rempresent> shit, i have to leave... 22:06 < rempresent> I am going to be back in like an hours, I don't really know, but sometime later... 22:06 < rempresent> sorry, thanks for your help though 22:07 < joecool> i'll probably be here :P 22:07 < rempresent> got it, thanks 22:24 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:24 -!- Grunt [~grunt@S0106000c413a1c49.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 < Sereroku> lol my First App is ready =) 22:41 -!- Shados [~asd@ool-44c15874.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:51 -!- Sereroku [~Sereroku@Ea0ca.e.strato-dslnet.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:21 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-093-231.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 23:41 < rempresent> hey joe, i amback 23:41 < rempresent> i am back 23:42 -!- Z_ManXR [Gluon@dhcp024-209-093-231.woh.rr.com] has joined #iPodLinux 23:44 -!- Shadowarrior13 [~shadowkiw@ip68-2-182-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:46 < rempresent> is there anyone here who is willing to help me 23:46 < rempresent> ? 23:47 < rempresent> i have a generation 3 iPod, I started to fdisk to make the partitions, and when i jumped to the third partition, it didn't make the 2nd partition for me 23:47 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 23:49 -!- Z_Man [Gluon@dhcp024-209-093-231.woh.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:53 -!- Krankheit [~main@dialup-4.156.105.124.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:54 -!- Krankhei1 [~main@dialup-4.156.105.124.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:56 -!- Z_ManXR is now known as Z_Man 23:57 -!- princeofdarkness [~danalien@danalien.user] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Sat Mar 19 00:00:00 2005