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00:28  * coob smashes graphiconvertor into the wall in a violent rage
00:28 < JonasNZ> lol
00:28 < JonasNZ> use ps
00:29 < coob> i have like 5 meg free ram to worth with heh
00:29 < Grunt> {{sofixit}}
00:30 < courtc> {{sofixit}} == kill -9 1
00:30 < Grunt> heh :)
00:30 < Grunt> good luck =b
00:32 < coob> woo works now
00:32 < Grunt> \o/
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01:38 < haunted_i> live users?
01:38 < JonasNZ> hmm
01:38 < courtc> I'm live.. but i'm kicking also..
01:42 < haunted_i> that counts
01:43 < joecool> when's leachbj supposed to surface again?
01:44 < coob> when the sun is at 55 nne and ice cream doesn't melt.
01:44 < JonasNZ> once hes moved
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01:47 < joecool> JonasNZ: ah, thanks
01:48 < courtc> joecool- need something?
01:49 < joecool> courtc: nah, i was just wondering
01:49 < joecool> i knew he was traveling, just not sure why
01:49 < joecool> now i know
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02:07 < Pojiku> im uploading a ghost image of a working ipl install for a 20gb 4g, if you have an up to date version of ghost and would like to test it pm me
02:08 < coob> of which partition
02:08 < Pojiku> *Note: it WILL wipe your ipod
02:08 < coob> of the whoel ipod?!?!
02:08 < coob> whole*
02:08 < Pojiku> fat32 and ext3, thats why I want it to be tested:) and its on a high compression of 15mb full ipod
02:09 < fakker> so, its just a whole new install just with lin on it?
02:09 < fakker> :p
02:09 < coob> ok well if it contains apple fw don't reference to it in the forums or the wiki.
02:09 < coob> reference/link
02:09 < JonasNZ> Pojiku, how big?
02:09 < JonasNZ> lol
02:09 < JonasNZ> cant read
02:09 < fakker> 15
02:09 < JonasNZ> ignore me
02:10 < Pojiku> ill need the first partition for it to work wont I?
02:10 < coob> you'll need all of them...
02:10 < Pojiku> shit ok brb lol
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02:18 < Spline32> by ghost you mean Norton Ghost yes?
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02:29 < Pojiku> ok skrew that :P can't copy the firmware partition without doing a copy of every bit of free space aswell
02:30 < coob> no need for ghost when you have dd.
02:30 < courtc> and tar
02:30 < coob> or cvs and a toolchain
02:31 < courtc> or umm.. superpowers
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02:31 < joecool> lol
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02:34 < Pojiku> haha have had some troubles with dd, I just wanted to give people a chance to preview it without bugging you guys (like I did until I got it going:P)
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02:42 < Spline32> how many people are developing ipl?
02:42 < courtc> ipodlinux.org/contributors
02:42 < Spline32> nvm, found the page on the wiki
02:42 < coob> ipodlinux.org/Contributors
02:42 < coob> dammit!
02:42 < courtc> I win i win!
02:43 < Spline32> lol
02:43 < Spline32> I dont suppose you guys would like to hear me gush about how much you guys rock
02:43 < coob> do something useful instead :D http://ipodlinux.org/requests
02:43 < courtc> actually ...
02:44 < Spline32> I dont know anything about programming
02:44 < Spline32> Im a network administrator, so unless you guys start talking OSI layers
02:44 < courtc> ok, gushing works then.. 
02:44 < coob> the 7 layers of hell eh
02:44  * coob CCNA
02:45 < Spline32> Im taking my test next week
02:45 < coob> ccna?
02:45 < Spline32> yes
02:45 < Spline32> test aint cheap
02:45 < coob> i took it before they added all the wifi stuff :<
02:45 < Spline32> I cant afford to fail it
02:45 < coob> hah i got my old school to pay for it
02:45 < Spline32> Im all self taught sadly
02:46 < coob> hmm they're only valid for about 3 years, mines must run out soon
02:46 < coob> i should take the CCNP before i finish school so they can pay for it
02:46 < Spline32> CCNP is hell I hear
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02:46 < Spline32> and CCIE isnt even possible on your first try
02:46 < coob> get yourself a copy of the Boson CCNA tests.. they emulate the real thing pretty well
02:47 < coob> just don't rely solely on them
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02:47 < Spline32> I have the official text books from cisco
02:47 < Spline32> and been doing a whole bunch of practice tests
02:47 < Spline32> I took the whole week off work
02:47 < courtc> haha.. 
02:47 < Spline32> just to cram for the test
02:47 < coob> think they might have a router sim as well.. or some other company does (assuming you don't have access to a real one)
02:47 < coob> heh
02:47 < coob> you need more than just the text books 
02:48 < Spline32> I do have access to a real one
02:48 < Spline32> I work for Liberty Tax Service
02:48 < coob> ok well check out the boson/bosun (sp?) stuff if you can, it helped me
02:48 < Spline32> will do
02:48 < coob> i sat in a coffee shop with a mate taking the same test with a tablet taking them heh
02:49 < coob> uhhh that reminds me.. don't have too much coffee before you go in
02:49 < Spline32> cant stand the stuff
02:49 < Spline32> I have to use expresso when I need energy, like drinking motor oil, but the taste is shortlived
02:50 < courtc> speaking of coffee.. I seem to have misplaced mine :/
02:50 < coob> :< the last time i had express it was in some coffee shop in berlin
02:50 < coob> expresso*
02:50 < coob> i asked the guy to make it strong... it made my nose bleed :<
02:50 < Spline32> hehe
02:51 < Spline32> yeah, sometimes you have to run after it and kill it before you can drink it
02:51 < coob> Spline32: can't you expense your test/get your company to pay for it?
02:51 < coob> or are you getting it because you're looking for another job?
02:52 < Spline32> sadly, since I am a network troubleshooter for liberty
02:52 < courtc> last time i drank espresso i drank it in a glass.. bout 2 pints
02:52 < Spline32> they see it as unnessesary (sp?)
02:52 < Spline32> but with my CCNA
02:53 < Spline32> I can get the lofty job title of Network Analyst
02:53 < coob> the whole point of working for the man (the corporate one) is to get good training/certs
02:53 < Spline32> what exactly that entails is beyond me, though through the powers of observation, it seems to involve sitting infront of a computer drinking coffee
02:54 < courtc> think cess-pool necessary
02:54 < Spline32> I did have an IPL question though
02:54 < coob> i think you occaisionally have to have a term with traceroute running when a manager walks past..
02:55 < Spline32> haha, I usually just pick up the phone and speak to the dial tone
02:55 < Spline32> Stacy thinks Im working, little does she know...
02:55 < courtc> just keep tcpdump running and maybe socklist
02:56 < Spline32> Stacy isnt exactly a computer moron
02:56 < courtc> dammit, another cup of coffee lost :(
02:57 < Spline32> did you check your stomache?
02:57 < Spline32> it might be there
02:57 < coob> courtc: cd tray..
02:57 < Spline32> ...uhg, bad memories
02:57 < Spline32> I once tried that you know
02:58 < courtc> of course.. but which one ;)
02:58 < courtc> Spline32- it actually works quite well..
02:59 < Spline32> not if you put a 32 oz icy on it
02:59 < courtc> thats why you but quality cd drives
02:59 < courtc> buy*
02:59 < Spline32> actually, thats why I buy front loading cd drives
02:59 < courtc> mine has a cup heater buiilt in..
03:00 < Spline32> you know what I think you need
03:00 < coob> heh i remember when you used to have to use caddies with cd drives
03:00 < Spline32> lemme go find you a link really quick
03:00 < Spline32> g2g Numb3rs is on
03:01 < Spline32> thanks for chatting guys
03:01 < courtc> 4?
03:01 < courtc> wtf is numb3rs?
03:02  * courtc doesnt watch tv
03:02 < courtc> evar
03:03 < coob> http://tvtome.com/Numb3rs/
03:04 < fakker> http://www.ipodlinux.org/images/7/71/Davidc_vs_noob.jpg ...... lol
03:04  * fakker goes through random pictures
03:04 < courtc> yea, i forgot how to google for a second there..
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03:04 < coob> haha that's great, who drew it?
03:05 < courtc> macPod- long time ago..
03:05 < courtc> like a whole month
03:05 < courtc> maybe even two (omg)
03:06 < fakker> its good tho
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03:07 < courtc> yes, good like grits..
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03:09 < fakker> grits?
03:09 < coob> hot grits.
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03:28 < haunted_i> ooo Radeon x800
03:28 < joecool> nvidia > ati
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03:38 < fakker> nah
03:38 < fakker> :p
03:38 < fakker> my x800 xt plat pwn :D
03:40 < joecool> i'm sure my gf 5700U could pwn i on linux.. even though its a lesser card, at least nvidia gives a damn about linux :P
03:41 < joecool> ati's drivers are slowww
03:41 < coob> my ipod has an nvdia 10 billion with 2338712937123891tb of ram and can simulate down to quark level. in it's sleep. so there.
03:41 < joecool> lol
03:42 < courtc> aww.. and i was gonna bustout my gf 8bil :/ coob rocks
03:42 < JonasNZ> coob, you think thats powerful.....
03:43 < JonasNZ> wait till nv releases it as an SLI version
03:43 < coob> yes hte single laser irrelivance chips are awesome :(
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03:44 < courtc> bah.. SLI went out with 4bil.. now we use ELC
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03:47 < courtc> Extra Large Cables
03:49 < JonasNZ> courtc arent you forgetting OOC
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03:50 < JonasNZ> Overly Obese Cables, i think thats the politically correct term for it now
03:51 < courtc> anyone want to try a podzilla binary for <=3g ?
03:52 < courtc> .. .. it has a good chance of speeding up playback ... .. 
03:55 < courtc> wtf is wrong with you people.. 
03:55 < JonasNZ> i would if i had a <=3g
03:55 < JonasNZ> but i dont i have a 4g
03:55 < courtc> are we entirly infested with 4gers?
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03:56 < JonasNZ> probably
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03:56 < JonasNZ> courtc, dont you have a 3g and a mini or just a mini
03:57 < courtc> 1g and mini, but no fw connection atm..   http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/podzilla
03:57 < JonasNZ> use usb, or ???
03:58 < courtc> haha.. and where do i plug the usb cable into?
03:58 < courtc> shove it in the firewire port?
03:58 < JonasNZ> umm a USB port, why dont ya have 1
03:58 < courtc> on my 1g?
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03:58 < JonasNZ> lg == ???
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03:59 < coob> 1g is fw only
03:59 < JonasNZ> ok
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03:59 < JonasNZ> oh one g not lg
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03:59 < JonasNZ> damm fonts
03:59 < Spline32> finally
03:59 < courtc> show me the usb port: http://homepage.mac.com/toj/PhotoAlbum20.html
04:00 < coob> Spline32: what gen ipod do you have?
04:00 < Spline32> 4g
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04:00 < coob> dammit
04:00 < Spline32> if you want beta testing
04:00 < Spline32> Im all for it
04:00 < Spline32> hell, Ide give you it if I thought youd give it back
04:00 < coob> need a <= 3g for something sorry
04:00 < coob> nope no need for that
04:00 < EvilDude> hey coob whats up
04:00 < courtc> EvilDude- !
04:00 < coob> EvilDude: woo!
04:00 < JonasNZ> EvilDude, what gen?
04:00 < EvilDude> ahha i am alive =D
04:00 < EvilDude> 3rd
04:00 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/podzilla
04:01 < JonasNZ> there ya go court
04:01 < EvilDude> interestnig, what does it do =P
04:01 < courtc> play faster ... .. maybe
04:01 < JonasNZ> courtc anyone want to try a podzilla binary for <=3g ?
04:01 < JonasNZ> courtc .. .. it has a good chance of speeding up playback ... .. 
04:02 < EvilDude> yeah saw that i mean anything different?
04:02 < EvilDude> like what did you change
04:02 < courtc> ooh and it has a pretty calender
04:02 < Spline32> I was looking at that Davidc vs N00b picture
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04:02 < Spline32> davidc looks scary
04:02 < courtc> with fonts and stuff.. thx to coob
04:02 < coob> temporary fonts...
04:02 < EvilDude> ohhhh 
04:03 < courtc> hes the prettifier
04:03 < EvilDude> well in podzilla what should i be doing
04:03 < courtc> playing music.. and looking at a calendar
04:03 < Spline32> oh hey, courtc
04:03 < EvilDude> wow, calendar looks very nice
04:03 < courtc> oh, hey Spline32 
04:03 < Spline32> I told you earlier I was going to find a picture for you
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04:03 < Spline32> this is it
04:03 < Spline32> http://www.boingboing.net/2002/12/08/coffeemaking_pc_case.html
04:03 < Spline32> thats what you need
04:03 < coob> what about mp3s, they play back ok?
04:03 < EvilDude> i'll try different bitrates
04:04 < EvilDude> 192kbps working perfectly
04:04 < courtc> Spline32- yea, i've seen it..
04:04 < courtc> is that normal?
04:05 < coob> wow it actually works ;)
04:05 < EvilDude> hmm had some stuttering before if i remember
04:05 < courtc> well.. it works
04:05 < EvilDude> 203kbps vbr is a little stutter
04:05 < JonasNZ> nice job courtc 
04:05 < coob> vbr will stutter still :<
04:05 < coob> yeha good job courtc!
04:05 < courtc> hahhahaha
04:05 < courtc> yay me
04:06 < courtc> Oh wait..
04:06 < EvilDude> 320kbps has about same stutter too =P
04:06 < EvilDude> what did you do courtc?
04:07 < courtc> coob?
04:07 < EvilDude> whats so special about mp3 playback now ?
04:07 < coob> uh nothing big
04:08 < coob> just tried a different memcpy method that supposedly runs a little faster..
04:08 < EvilDude> (hmm may be a problem on end of songs however, trying again)
04:08 < joecool|busy> courtc: anything new in cvs today?
04:08 < EvilDude> ah
04:08 < coob> hmm :<
04:08 < coob> joecool|busy: http://booc.coob.org/ipl
04:08 < courtc> joecool|busy- not today, yet
04:08 < joecool|busy> coob: i know.. but it takes 2-3 hours sometimes to pick anything up
04:09 < joecool|busy> courtc: k, i'm also doing my own updates (clearing up a nasty patchset situation....)
04:09 < joecool|busy> i have a small gentoo war happening heh
04:09 < courtc> uhh.. ok
04:09 < coob> joecool|busy: that's sf anon cvs for you...
04:09 < EvilDude> ok end of song wa fine this time  will try another song to make syure
04:10 < joecool|busy> coob: gotta love it, the mirroring system too :P
04:10 < EvilDude> (and 128kbps is literally so perfect)
04:10 < coob> gentoo wars? is that where people get really angry and threaten to fight but then have calmed down in the 2 days it took their weapon's to compile?
04:10 < coob> EvilDude: was it like that before?
04:11 < courtc> hahahaha
04:12 < EvilDude> yeah 128 was always perfect
04:12 < coob> ok
04:13 < coob> need some stats stuff to decode to a file and time it :<
04:13 < EvilDude> ok there is a problem at end of songs
04:13 < EvilDude> it just  hangs
04:14 < EvilDude> its hung twice, worked once
04:14 < coob> ever had that before?
04:14 < EvilDude> dont think so
04:14 < coob> hm -,
04:14 < coob> needs more testing obviously.
04:14 < EvilDude> yeah i'm busy so i'll be a little slow, but i can test stuff
04:15  * Spline32 damns to hell his 4g
04:15 < joecool|busy> Spline32: whats going on?
04:16 < Spline32> its dirty:-(
04:16 < Spline32> I have yet to find a good way to clean the click wheel
04:17 < EvilDude> hehe 3G wins. =P
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04:18 < ryanlrussell> Did everyone go "OMG! Color Minis!" already?
04:18 < joecool|busy> coob: i really am starting to hate gentoo users (even though i am one), the ricers annoy me so much, i don't know why my co-maintainer went to post the release on F.G.O... its like slashdot
04:18 < josh_> ryanlrussell: WHAT?!
04:18 < Spline32> huh?
04:18 < ryanlrussell> http://www.gizmodo.com/
04:18 < coob> .f.go?
04:19 < Spline32> operation timed out
04:19 < coob> ..it's just a rumour
04:19 < coob> it's on engadget.com too
04:20 < EvilDude> i heard from engadget too
04:20 < EvilDude> wonder how likely it is
04:20 < coob> engadget said something about the normal ipods coming in colours too
04:20 < JonasNZ> macruors reported it so its very likely to be true
04:21 < Spline32> yes, it says all but the shuffle (for obvious resons) would have color screens
04:21 < JonasNZ> they have an inside contact
04:21 < JonasNZ> every prediction they have made has been true
04:21 < ryanlrussell> mini form factor is my favorite, color lcd would be cool
04:21 < EvilDude> hmm coob another song worked fine at end  =\  so testing another song now =P
04:21 < JonasNZ> yeah i would consider buying one if it was with an 8 / 10 gb hd
04:21 < Spline32> 10gb at least
04:22 < ryanlrussell> bigger HD wouldn't hurt
04:22 < Spline32> I remember when I told myself that I would never need more than 20GB
04:22 < Spline32> oh for shame...
04:23 < EvilDude> courtc / coob: what exactly was dont for the calendar to mkae it look pretty :p
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04:26 < coob> EvilDude: before it was just numbers, big ugly numbers! now it's pretty little small ones, with, uh lines!
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04:26 < EvilDude> coob: yeah i noticed that ;) i meant did you guys get new fonts etc working and stuff or just different sizes
04:26 < coob> oh now those are bitmaps :)
04:26 < coob> hack until the font stuff is working
04:27 < EvilDude> =\ thats cheap =P
04:27 < EvilDude> but it sure looks good =D
04:27 < courtc> *cough*(global gc)*cough*
04:27 < EvilDude> hahaha
04:27 < EvilDude> well what exactly is this globalgc stuff
04:28 < courtc> uhmm we need one..
04:28 < EvilDude> just mod each window to copy the window gc to a global var?
04:28 < EvilDude> yeah but what is it, like what's needed for it
04:29 < courtc> no, copy the global gc to a window specific gc..
04:29 < coob> every new_window_ func to be modified i think.. and some other stuff
04:29 < courtc> it'd contain stuff like the font..
04:29 < courtc> fonts are gc specific
04:29 < EvilDude> ok so the opposite,  use a gc already created?
04:29 < courtc> thats the idea
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04:30 < courtc> not a difficult fix.. just alot of copy/paste work..
04:30 < EvilDude> hmm and problems with the window losing everything shown on it when it shows another window
04:31 < courtc> nope.. thats a EXPOSE event gone wrong...
04:31 < courtc> different subject
04:31 < coob> heh i was thinking of implimenting sliding windows
04:31 < coob> like in the apple fw
04:32 < coob> wouldn't be too hard
04:32 < EvilDude> coob can take care of global gc then too =D
04:32 < EvilDude> haha
04:32 < courtc> yuck.. we arent trying to emulate apples fw
04:32 < joecool|busy> slows down the menus quite a bit too
04:32 < coob> it's a cool effect
04:32 < coob> it's be a setting obviously :D
04:32 < courtc> fading would be cooler
04:33 < EvilDude> im for fading!
04:33 < coob> fading with 2 bit colour?
04:33  * Spline32 votes for fading
04:33 < EvilDude> hey  fading rulz =D
04:33 < joecool|busy> fading would work
04:33 < EvilDude> I'm sure it's possible!!
04:33 < EvilDude> the LCD blur between pixels will make it works at least =P
04:33 < courtc> yea, we've  got enough blur to fade nicely
04:34 < EvilDude> just like how the slide looks like many frames even though its only like 4 =P
04:34 < courtc> actually i think its eight.. but thats not the point
04:34 < joecool|busy> hmm, is the ipod photo active matrix.. i haven't picked one up yet
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04:35 < coob> apparently
04:35 < EvilDude> haha well 8..4.. close enough
04:35 < joecool|busy> i would think so too.. being its TFT, not STN
04:35 < EvilDude> how do we know it isnt just a real slide though
04:35 < Spline32> both are divisible by 2
04:35 < joecool|busy> so the fade wouldn't work on the photo
04:35 < EvilDude> well i think a brand new os is required basically for the damn photo =P 
04:36 < EvilDude> so many pretty colours can be shown compared to our bland 2 bit displays
04:36 < courtc> os? you mean gui
04:36 < EvilDude> meant podzilla *
04:37 < EvilDude> and anyway   we dont have photos so we go for fade effect!
04:37 < joecool|busy> lol, i just want sound on my 4g :P
04:37 < joecool|busy> i've looked at the code.. but i'm no good to do it
04:38 < coob> how about making the screen explode into the next menu
04:38 < EvilDude> that's easy =\ ?
04:38 < courtc> nice.. and when you hit menu it puts itself back together
04:38 < coob> hahah
04:38 < joecool|busy> coob: how about spontaneous combustion if you select the right option
04:38 < coob> or do it os x style
04:39 < courtc> *reverse explosion  (no not implosion)
04:39 < coob> (FUS) where it spins on a cube....
04:39 < coob> we already have the cube code just need the 2d texturing :)
04:39 < courtc> zoom out then zoom in to another screen ?
04:40 < coob> nah the cube turns to another side
04:40 < EvilDude> haha, why do i have a feeling we're gonna need to power up the processor just for menu animation 
04:40 < courtc> sliding doors..
04:40 < courtc> from the middle
04:41 < Spline32> how about a disolve
04:41 < EvilDude> isnt a dissolve a fade?
04:41 < Spline32> kind of
04:41 < courtc> well its easier to do..
04:41 < courtc> the screen disappears in tiny blocks
04:41 < EvilDude> ah
04:42 < EvilDude> so not all at once
04:42 < joecool|busy> courtc: thats what i thought everyone meant from the beginning
04:42 < joecool|busy> not like the backlight fades, but as a pixel by pixel sorta thing
04:42 < courtc> I meant a real fade...
04:42 < Spline32> dissolve and fade are different
04:43 < Spline32> dissolve is like the cheap mans fade
04:43 < joecool|busy> well.. i suppose its possible with 4 shades of gray and a nice slow lcd
04:43 < joecool|busy> to go for the nice fade
04:43 < coob> http://images.apple.com/macosx/features/fastuserswitching/images/fus_clickme_102403.gif <-- that's what i meant byt the cube
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04:44 < EvilDude> yeah i've seen taht effect before
04:44 < EvilDude> But fade / dissolve would be more fun =D
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04:48 < Spline32> coob, that video on the website with the cube on it, you are actually controlling that cube yes?
04:48 < JonasNZ> no
04:49 < joecool|busy> which cube, the podzilla cube, or the cube just posted?
04:49 < Spline32> podzilla
04:49 < joecool|busy> Spline32: yes, you can change direction and spin of it
04:49 < joecool|busy> and zoom and unzoom it
04:50 < EvilDude> hmm why can't we add matrix to cvs
04:50 < coob> yeah can change spin in any axis
04:50 < coob> and zoom in/ot (not really shown on the vid)
04:50 < joecool|busy> EvilDude: its not working yet, is it?
04:50 < coob> EvilDude: needs some finishing up heh
04:50 < EvilDude> it isnt :|? it looked like it was fine to me?
04:50 < coob> it is working...
04:50 < EvilDude> coob: are you going to make it smoother?
04:50 < joecool|busy> hmm, 
04:50  * joecool|busy goes to find patch
04:50 < coob> nope.
04:50 < EvilDude> hmm well what else needs doing
04:50 < coob> EvilDude: i got rid of that wave effect tho
04:51 < EvilDude> oh good
04:51 < coob> ugh just internal stuff.. needs to dynamicly allocate some arrays and junk
04:51 < EvilDude> so it moves more than one at a time =D
04:51 < EvilDude> ah
04:51 < coob> it did that before
04:51 < coob> each strand moves at different speeds
04:51 < EvilDude> yeah but that wave effect really stood out for some reason
04:52 < EvilDude> ohh thats cool
04:52 < joecool|busy> coob: where's the matrix code at?
04:53 < coob> forums
04:53 < joecool|busy> thanks
04:55 < courtc> duffs device :D  http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/podzilla
04:55 < Spline32> do you guys think the ipod is actually physically capable of video playback?  (not that I expect, just wondering if you think its possible)
04:55 < courtc> yes.. it is possible.. no its not probably
04:56 < courtc> *probable
04:56 < Spline32> that was sarcasm right?
04:56 < courtc> neg
04:56 < coob> it's possible but wouldn't be great
04:56 < EvilDude> courtc: whats in that podzilla?
04:56 < courtc> I will be extremely happy if that binary even works
04:56 < EvilDude> haha ok
04:56 < courtc> faster memcpy
04:57 < joecool|busy> coob: the patch is old, want me to update it against newer podzilla-cvs?
04:57 < courtc> yes, even faster!
04:57 < coob> no
04:58 < EvilDude> music playing
04:58 < EvilDude> hmm doesnt seem any faster though i think 
04:58 < EvilDude> perhaps worse :P
04:59 < courtc> doubt it
04:59 < EvilDude> hmm well it still has stuttering
04:59 < EvilDude> i'll make sure 192 still plays
04:59 < courtc> i unrolled a loop and duffs deviced it..
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05:02 < EvilDude> well 2 of the 192kbps songs i tried have stuttering in them =\
05:02 < courtc> huh..
05:02 < EvilDude> strange =\
05:02 < EvilDude> i really dont think the problem is decoding is too slow
05:02 < courtc> I know what i need.. louder music!
05:02 < EvilDude> lol
05:03 < courtc> nope its memory latency.. thats what I'm working on ;)
05:04 < EvilDude> how'd you figure that
05:05 < courtc> well.. otherwise it'd be slow.. skipping implies that something isnt responding as fast as it should
05:05 < EvilDude> hmm ok
05:05 < EvilDude> well you keep doing stuff and i'll keep testing =D
05:06 < joecool|busy> hmm matrix screensaver is pretty awesome on it (another good example of how the ghosting effect  can look cool)
05:07 < Spline32> im not sure an LCD needs a screensaver though...
05:08 < joecool|busy> Spline32: so? putting linux on the ipod is all about the extras :)
05:08 < coob> it's not a screensaver it's just a gfx demo...
05:08 < Spline32> its very nifty indeed
05:09 < Spline32> now if only my ipod could dispence tylonel
05:09 < Spline32> maybe a cool damp rag
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05:11 < coob> night
05:11 < courtc> niht
05:11 < courtc> hmmm g
05:12 < Spline32> night
05:12 < EvilDude> nite
05:12  * Spline32 doesnt know why we are saying night, but doesnt want to be left out
05:14 < EvilDude> coz coob's going to bed?
05:14 < Spline32> oh
05:14 < Spline32> good night coob
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05:24 < Sliverq> courtc; thanks!  my remote finally works!  yay
05:24 < courtc> yup...
05:24 < Sliverq> and I managed to get sash and vip running... they didn't work for so long... happy days
05:26 < courtc> EvilDude- next... this should be a considerable difference, for better or worse I dunno..
05:26 < EvilDude> hmm ok
05:26 < EvilDude> so i should actully be able to tell this time =D  same link?
05:27 < courtc> same link..
05:27 < EvilDude> k
05:27 < courtc> there should be some sort of change.. noticable i hope
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05:30 < EvilDude> hm, it is noticable...  it crashed =P
05:30 < courtc> haha.. ok
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05:31 < Sliverq> oh, if I change the wheel speed on sash to 0.5 will that slow it?  (it's set to 1 right now)
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05:34 < EvilDude> courtc do you have more to test?
05:34 < EvilDude> like as in will you have more soon
05:34 < courtc> yea, one now.. last one...
05:35 < EvilDude> ah ok
05:35 < EvilDude> just taht i have to go soon =\
05:35 < courtc> then I have to do some other work.. I'll crack on thins later
05:35 < EvilDude> lol ok
05:36 < EvilDude> playing
05:36 < EvilDude> bit better   repeats sometimes not just stutter
05:36 < EvilDude> repeats are the new thing basically
05:36 < courtc> huh.. ok..
05:37 < courtc> any stutters in with the repeats?
05:37 < EvilDude> yeah
05:37 < courtc> ok
05:37 < EvilDude> both happen
05:37 < EvilDude> *tries 320kbps now*
05:37 < EvilDude> constant stuttering basically in 320kbps song and repeats at end of stuttering
05:38 < EvilDude> repeats not so often in 320
05:38 < EvilDude> hope that helps, i gotta go now, cya
05:38 < courtc> thanks
05:38 < EvilDude> np
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07:12 < JonasNZ> btw guys, i have a shell server that has now got arm-elf-tools installed on it
07:13 < courtc> arm-elf compile farm !
07:13 < JonasNZ> and if sum1 can giv me a tip i will setup a daily build of whatever
07:13 < JonasNZ> im not sure how to set it up
07:13 < JonasNZ> courtc, thats excatly my intention
07:13 < JonasNZ> well not 100% but it was a though
07:14 < JonasNZ> t
07:16 < JonasNZ> any1 want to give me a tip on how i can setup a script to build form cvs
07:18 < courtc> cvs update; make, simple
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07:19 < JonasNZ> hmm, dont have time right now but i will do tommorrow
07:30 < Gent> anyone alive?
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07:30 < courtc> <- kick
07:31 < JonasNZ> anyway cyaz
07:31 < courtc> bye
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07:40 < Gent> ...
07:41 < Gent> I'm under the impression podzilla started using mpd to make the interfacing easier...
07:41 < Gent> it does use mpd right?
07:50 < courtc> not yet.. I'm working on an interface for mpd though... well when i have time :/
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08:11 < CelticAuschw> wow nice channel you have here. Too bad nobody talks.
08:11 < Gent> ...
08:11 < Gent> Are you that guy from Linux World who I showed iPod Linux to?
08:11 < Gent> Your company sucked
08:11 < CelticAuschw> nope
08:12 < Gent> oh, nevermind then
08:12 < CelticAuschw> lol
08:12 < CelticAuschw> im just a teenager with a 4g iPod..
08:15 < courtc> "Your company sucked".. haha.. so nice 
08:16 < Gent> courtc, have you looked at my PTK/Podzilla code yet?
08:17 < courtc> haha.. no I havent ;)  I've talked about it alot though.. 
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08:18 < courtc> I'll look through it when I have some time.. perhaps tomorrow or sunday..
08:20 < Gent> just trying to see where people are
08:20 < Gent> I'd like to really get a team going
08:21 < Gent> http://www.dotink.org/~gent/content/Images/Screenshots/FVWM20050218.png
08:23 < courtc> deviantart cutomized bg.. what font is that?
08:23 < Gent> Arabolical
08:24 < courtc> meh.. dont have time to change fonts/styles around atm.. :(
08:26 < courtc> I wish my desktop was that clean .. :/  I *think* i have a background..
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08:30 < Gent> courtc, just get fvwm an download my config
08:31 < courtc> - fvwm
08:32 < Gent> huh?
08:32 < normalperson> courtc: tla get -A eric@petta-tech.com--2005a-normalperson fvwmcfg--normalperson--0  >:)
08:32 < courtc> I dont want your theme.. it just inspired me..
08:32 < normalperson> thats my cfg
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08:35 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ss-20050229.png  another desktop this time.. 
08:36 < courtc> thats my intarweb desktop
08:36 < Sereroku> nice ^^
08:36 < normalperson> ok, www.ipodlinux.org/MPD updated with an MPD tarball and instructions
08:36 < normalperson> clarify if needed
08:36 < normalperson> I need sleep
08:36 < normalperson> g'nite
08:41 < courtc> yep, I'm following suit..
08:41 < courtc> night
08:42 < Sereroku> so whats the 4G Stats :)
08:42 < Sereroku> when should i backup my iPod =)
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08:49 < _speedway> Hello
08:50 < Gent> hola
08:50 < _speedway> Does somebody know what to do when: Your iPod(4th) doesnt want to start up anymore, only resets and shows a Folder with an ' ! ' and if you connect it to PC it doesnt wanna repair to fabric config
08:50 < _speedway> can somebody help me with this?
08:51 < Gent> speed, did you backup the firmware?
08:52 < _speedway> nope, how?
08:53 < _speedway> With the iPod updater?
08:55 < Gent> I don't know how the iPod updater works
08:55 < Gent> speed, were you trying to install linux?
08:55 < _speedway> no
08:55 < Gent> oh, you just have a general problem then....
08:55 < _speedway> Just from one to another moment, it started restarting
08:56 < _speedway> yes, but I dont know how to fix it!
08:56 < Gent> ummm, my guess is it's drive got corrupted or something
08:56 < Gent> speed, you need to "restore" the whole thing
08:56 < Gent> so to speak
08:56 < Sereroku> hm
08:56 < _speedway> hèhè
08:56 < _speedway> its not crashing now
08:56 < _speedway> but now it starts crashing again :S
08:57 < Sereroku> -.-
08:57 < Gent> maybe the drive in it is going down
08:57 < _speedway> So I should send it to Apple
08:57 < Gent> yeah
08:58 < _speedway> ah F*** this is bad
09:00  * Gent tries the Ubuntu Hoary LiveCD
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09:01 < Gent> nevermind, it doesn't want to work
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09:02 < _speedway> well now it plays songs like it wasnt broke at all
09:02 < _speedway> but it did make my pc crash (2nd time)
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09:23 < persona> G'day all... I just submitted a patch without having read the www.ipodlinux.org/Patches site... That site says that there's no feedback, so I guess I won't find out if the non-formatted-how-they-want-it thing is an issue.../me is a patch-submitting n00b
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09:32 < persona> (Should I resubmit?  Will they actually tell me what I've done wrong?)
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11:30 < dolph1n> Hey
11:31 < dolph1n> Sorry for barging in and getting to the point
11:31 < Sereroku> wow
11:31 < dolph1n> but is there any unix shell programmers around?
11:31 < Sereroku> ne iPod Minis, Color Display O_o
11:31 < Sereroku> ?
11:31 < Sereroku> new
11:31 < Sereroku> would be nice
11:31 < Sereroku> and classic iPod with color display and other colors, white rulez O_o
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11:32 < dolph1n> maybe not then
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11:41 < chaosite> dolph1n: What do you need unix shell programmers for ... ?
11:42 < dolph1n> a qhick shell script
11:43 < dolph1n> I neve bothered to learn shell scripting
11:43 < dolph1n> I need it to copy a file to multiple directorys recursivly
11:43 < dolph1n> I think :S
11:43 < dolph1n> like..
11:43 < dolph1n> cp file.txt */file.txt
11:43 < dolph1n> but that obviously won't work
11:47 < dolph1n> ok..
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11:56 < dolph1n> nobody?
11:56 < dolph1n> ok..
12:02 < fre_ber> I would attempt a "find" piped through a "sed" to generate a script. But I'm not very good at this.
12:02 < dolph1n> find what?
12:02 < dolph1n> a directory? :P
12:02 < fre_ber> All directories
12:02 < dolph1n> can you even do that?
12:03 < fre_ber> Yes.
12:03 < dolph1n> ah
12:03 < dolph1n> didn't know that
12:03 < dolph1n> thanks
12:03 < dolph1n> man time
12:03 < fre_ber> :)
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14:51 < elinenbe> is there an easy installer for the ipod mini anywhere yet?
14:51 < steiny> no
14:51 < steiny> not that i am aware of :-(
14:57 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/4g#I_can_see_iPL_running_on_4gs.2Fminis_in_the_pictures.21_I_want_to_do_that.21
14:58 < dolph1n> haha
14:58 < dolph1n> I can't belive someone actually wrote that article :P
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15:14 < coob> oo oo I like his agurement, it kicks the other guy in the balls.
15:14 < coob> you sure mr.mini s 14? sounds more like 8 :<
15:14 < ssteve> how many bytes are in an int for iPL?
15:14 < coob> printf("%d", sizeof(int));
15:15 < ssteve> mmm, that would be the easy way
15:15 < coob> or just use sizeof(int)
15:15 < ssteve> coob, thanks
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15:37 < coob> anyone around with a <= 3g ipod to do some testing?
15:38 < dolph1n> 4g, iPL virgin though
15:39 < Grunt> 4g !<= 3g
15:40 < dolph1n> oooh
15:40 < dolph1n> I thought you said >= 4g
15:40 < dolph1n> me == mixed up
15:40 < dolph1n> *>= 3g
15:40 < dolph1n> :$
15:40 < coob> grunt whatcha got?
15:41 < Grunt> a mini
15:41 < Grunt> =b
15:41 < coob> :<
15:47 < coob> ..there has to be someone
15:49 < coob> nm probably wouldn't work anyway :/
15:49 < Grunt> don't be self-deprecating
15:49 < Grunt> wait until more people are awake :)
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16:13 < coob> ok got something that should work now
16:13 < coob> so if anyone is around with a <=3g...
16:18 < fakker> ive only got 4g
16:20 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-asm-memcpy for anyone who wants to try it - music should play a little better
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16:51 < coob> Wammy: :D what ipod gen do you have?
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16:56 < veteran> morning all
16:58 < coob> hiya vet - you have an ipod right?
16:59  * veteran gives coob a strange look
17:00 < coob> what gen?
17:00 < veteran> 3rd
17:00 < coob> woo!
17:00 < coob> can you test a binary for me?
17:00 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-asm-memcpy swap your podzilla for that and tell me if music playback works
17:00 < coob> and if it's any better than normal
17:01 < veteran> ah okay i need to go wake it up and give it breakfast first
17:01  * Grunt smirks
17:01 < dolph1n> Bah
17:01 < dolph1n> I still can't get my damn shell script working
17:03 < coob> ok
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17:08 < veteran> coob - is there no about menu in this binary?
17:12 < veteran> coob the playback is much worse
17:16 < Grunt> :(
17:17 < coob> oh :(
17:17 < coob> uh there should be
17:17 < coob> how much worse?
17:17 < veteran> sec let me check something real quick
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17:23 < veteran> coob just double-checked, are you sure you sent me the correct binary?
17:25 < coob> http://booc.coob.org/podzilla-asm-memcpy2  <-- try that
17:28 < veteran> testing
17:29 < coob> you're testing on cbr yeah?
17:30 < veteran> yep
17:30 < coob> what bitrate?
17:31 < veteran> 128
17:31 < coob> ok and it still sucks?
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17:32 < squee> http://psp-linux.org/
17:32 < squee> i didn't notice so many others existed
17:32 < squee> http://www.dslinux.org/
17:32 < coob> squee: there's loads..
17:37 < Sereroku> lol
17:40 < coob> veteran: ?
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18:08 < Spline32> good morning coob
18:09 < Spline32> et al
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18:22 < coob> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1170
18:23 < coob> hahahahahahaha
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18:29 < coob> out
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19:08 < macPod> we need a darwin award for messing up your iPod
19:08 < macPod> .. putting it on a speaker magnet!
19:09 < Grunt> bwahahahahahaha :)
19:09 < Grunt> Can you rescue it?
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19:13 < courtc> :/ 
19:14 < macPod> that was a post in the forums
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19:16 < courtc> I know.. 
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19:19 < Gent> why they take the shell off the podzilla menu... I needed it the other day
19:20 < Gent> this is what I get for updating podzilla
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19:21 < courtc> Gent, you updated form cvs?
19:22 < courtc> all you need to do is browse to the sh bin in filebrowser
19:22 < Gent> ahh...
19:22 < Gent> still, be nice to have it on the menu quickly
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19:22 < courtc> bleh..
19:22 < Gent> I needed to mkdir Recordings
19:23 < Gent> cause I didn't know that needed to be made
19:23 < Gent> or at the least in the Extras menu
19:23 < courtc> I just use telnet..
19:23 < Gent> courtc, well I was at Linux World
19:23 < Gent> I didn't exactly have a system I could telnet to my iPod on
19:23 < Gent> maybe I could have asked the guys at the apple booth if I coudl borrow one of their computers for a moment
19:23 < Gent> could*
19:24 < courtc> heh.. nope... need a special linux kernel module
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19:43 < Gent> someone needs to talk development
19:43 < Gent> I'm in a binge coding mood
19:43 < Gent> and this is the project I'm looking at
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19:52 < muzic808> hello all.
19:53 < muzic808> I recompiled podzilla from source this morning and now none of my song names show up when browsing my playlists?
19:53 < muzic808> is this a bug or did I f* something up?
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19:58 < muzic808> when browsing artists, I see some artist names and some album names, clicking on any of these just prints "unnamed album"?
20:03 < courtc> what version of libitunesdb are you using?
20:06 < muzic808> 0.5.1
20:07 < muzic808> Actually, Im compiling on windows under cygwin, so though i have the 0.5.1 source, the binary is from http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/
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20:12 < muzic808> as recommended on the building podzilla wiki page
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20:53 < veteran> The Noob Counseler is: OUT
20:58 < Sereroku> whats the status of 4G :)???
20:58 < Sereroku> when will u release an installer
20:59  * Grunt ignores Sereroku 
20:59 < Sereroku> -.-
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21:03 < veteran> Sereroku - The Noob Counseler is: OUT
21:03 < Sereroku> -.-
21:03 < veteran> fine fine The Noob Counseler is: IN
21:04 < veteran> 4g status: read the topic
21:04 < veteran> installer status: see previous answer
21:04 < veteran> Sereroku - The Noob Counseler is: OUT
21:04 < Sereroku> ok -.-
21:04 < Spline32> vet, seeing as we have a noob counseler here
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21:04  * veteran glares viciously at Spline32
21:04 < Spline32> when my iPod spools up its hard drive
21:05 < Spline32> it reeds everything to RAM
21:05 < veteran> you must have a small hard drive
21:05 < Spline32> reads everything it needs to ram
21:05 < Spline32> sorry
21:05 < Spline32> anyhow
21:05 < veteran> ;)
21:05 < Spline32> just as the HD is shutting down
21:05 < Spline32> it emits a very small barely audible click
21:06 < Spline32> not over the speakers
21:06 < Spline32> is that normal?
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21:06 < Spline32> you cant hear it unless the room is pretty quiet
21:06 < veteran> yep normal
21:07 < Spline32> is that the ipod putting the breaks on the hd so to speak?
21:07 < veteran> yep
21:08 < Spline32> see now, I didnt ask about the 4g status now did I?
21:08 < veteran> :D
21:08 < Spline32> though when can we start donating money for the 5g purchase you guys will need?
21:08 < veteran> haha right now
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21:09 < veteran> wikipedia has a virtual hostname? hm such gaul...
21:11 < Spline32> Oh, it just didnt say upcomming ipods on the donations page...
21:11 < Spline32> so I figured you guys had a different fund for that
21:12 < Spline32> awww, only paypal?
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21:54 < Gent> so who here is interested in PTK/podzilla development?
21:54 < Grunt> Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me!
21:55 < Grunt> =b
21:55 < Gent> Are you really interested?
21:55 < Gent> cause I've started a dotproject site for it
21:55  * Grunt needs to leave soonish
21:55 < Grunt> I'll check it out later
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