--- Log opened Tue Feb 15 00:00:02 2005 00:03 < Grunt> re _ipodstats :) 00:03 < coob> what does re mean? 00:04 < coob> nilss always says that... 00:04 < Grunt> it's a short form of "re-hello".. :) 00:04 < Grunt> or re-(greeting of your choice here) 00:04 < coob> courtc: about cube.c's behaviour - should it remember the spin settings across openings or not 00:05 < coob> it does at the moment (as they're globals) 00:05 * joecool is bored 00:05 < courtc> I think saving them is overkill.. but static globals are fine.. 00:06 < coob> yeha id idn't mean saving them 00:06 < coob> ok 00:06 < Grunt> . 00:06 < coob> one last test then i'll up cube-2b.diff 00:06 < joecool> mmm that amsg ame thing is good to know.. can't believe i never knew about that after over a year of irc 00:06 < joecool> coob: :) 00:07 < Grunt> joecool, you learn something new every day :) 00:07 < coob> is ti a mirc thing? doesn't work here... 00:07 < joecool> coob: works on xchat 00:07 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 < coob> make IPOD=1 && chmod 755 podzilla && cpp podzilla /Volumes/iPod/sbin/ && disktool -e disk1s3 00:07 -!- filcab [~opera@bl4-180-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 < coob> ^^ handy 00:08 < coob> tho better if cpp = cp 00:08 < Grunt> yes, I doubt you need to preprocess podzilla =b 00:09 < joecool> coob: i found it seems to copy fine as long as you don't use -p.. there shouldn't be a need for chmod then 00:09 < fakker> np: (HED) P.E. - Foreplay [01:32m/188Kbps/44KHz] 00:09 < fakker> oops 00:10 < coob> tears for fears - pale shelter 00:10 < coob> gta soundtracks are fun :) 00:11 < courtc> DJ Tiesto - [First Flight] The Voyager - Back On Earth 00:11 < fakker> look what i started :[ 00:12 * coob never imagined courtc as a trance head 00:12 < courtc> coob shouldnt ;) 00:12 < courtc> you never know what i'm listening to.. ;) 00:12 < fakker> np: Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole - Setting Sun [05:22m/128Kbps/44KHz] 00:12 < fakker> ^^ :D 00:13 < coob> i'm so sad :< was listening to the reloaded soundtrack when coding that matrix crap :X 00:13 < fakker> i heard it in the video 00:14 < courtc> after this album its: André Rieu- 100 Jahre Strauß 00:15 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:15 < courtc> then, who knows.. probably some old Ben Folds Five.. 00:16 < fakker> might go play cs 00:17 < coob> Apollo 440 - The Perfect Crime 00:17 -!- zsk001 [~Zsombor@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:18 < fakker> In Flames - F(R)Iend 00:19 -!- filcab [~opera@bl4-180-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:21 -!- filcab [~opera@81.193.180.223] has joined #ipodlinux 00:21 -!- filcab [~opera@81.193.180.223] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:27 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 00:28 < courtc> coob.. long test? 00:28 < coob> sorry i was just testing the patch against a clean cvs podzilla 00:28 < coob> mine's full of crud 00:28 < courtc> :) 00:28 < coob> and i was organising my build system around one build of podzilla instead of 3 heh 00:29 < coob> i forgot how i setup my mini version 00:29 < courtc> ahh.. I'll upload the new makefile when I incorperate that patch 00:29 < coob> ok 00:31 < joecool> hmm.. i need to get some DJ Tiesto.. i like streamripper.. i just have it rip every channel i want 00:32 < coob> last.fm is pretty cool 00:32 < coob> http://last.fm/ 00:39 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:40 < joecool> ooo, cube is gonna be in cvs? 00:41 < courtc> :) 00:41 < zsk001> i think the matrix and cube things should be made into screen savers for the ipod 00:42 < coob> i don't 00:42 < courtc> yes, since the ipod needs a screensaver and all.. :/ 00:42 < coob> damnt that lcd burn in! 00:42 * normalperson grumbles about battery life 00:43 < zsk001> i c how it is... 00:43 < coob> zsk001: if you want feel free to patch podzilla with an inactivity timer and all, but it probably wont make it to the cvs 00:43 < courtc> you know.. I never understood screensavers... why not turn the moniter off? 00:43 < coob> bah normalperson you and your minimalist practicalities! 00:43 < CompotatoJ> screensavers look cool 00:43 < coob> courtc: cos flying toasters are cool. 00:44 < coob> ohhh flying toasters... :) 00:44 < zsk001> coob: nice work on the matrix thing, whats next? 00:44 < coob> ok that's it i promise 00:44 < coob> no more time wasted on gfx demos 00:44 < courtc> yea, and I _always_ wait for 10 minutes _just_ to see those flying toasters... 00:44 < normalperson> coob: hehe, you don't want to know how many times mpd devs say "no" to features 00:45 < joecool> hmm.. there should be made an option to suspend the screen if desired 00:45 < coob> i bet mpd really needs a framebuffer output plugin that spins a 3d cube.. :) 00:45 < veteran> haha 00:46 < joecool> coob: imagine.. combine cube with flashing backlight (255 steps hehe..) and you have a very trippy visualizer 00:46 < veteran> let's work on a vu meter first 00:46 < veteran> ;) 00:46 < coob> veteran: rockbox has one we can steal 00:46 < veteran> i saw :D 00:48 < veteran> they have a bunch of stuff we can steal 00:48 < courtc> coob.. 'games' now 'fun' is alphabatized ;) 00:48 < coob> ahhh :D 00:49 < veteran> alphabatizing is overrated =] 00:49 < coob> especially when our tetris game is called bluecube 00:49 < courtc> alternative suggestion? 00:49 < veteran> eventually customizable 00:49 < veteran> maybe organizes itself based on which is most selected 00:49 < veteran> ;) 00:50 < coob> ouh that's fun 00:50 < courtc> you program it, i'll implement ;) 00:50 < coob> need this universal settings thing sorted first.. 00:51 < joecool> ... i thought of an awesome game for the ipod 00:51 < CompotatoJ> snake? 00:51 < joecool> dammit! 00:51 < joecool> CompotatoJ, are you a friggin mind reader or somethin 00:51 < courtc> already being worked on ;) 00:51 < CompotatoJ> hehe 00:52 < CompotatoJ> it will be so awesome 00:52 < joecool> oh nice, the controls are so well suited 00:52 < CompotatoJ> yes 00:52 < CompotatoJ> it would rule if when u spin around the wheel 00:52 < ssteve> is that the one that goes in the 4 cardinal directions or the one that has smooth turning? 00:52 -!- pokute [~pokute@83.214.35.129] has quit [] 00:52 < CompotatoJ> it moves and it can move in 360 directions =] 00:52 < ssteve> oh sweet 00:52 < joecool> hehe 00:52 < CompotatoJ> that would rule 00:52 < CompotatoJ> if they dont do that 00:52 < CompotatoJ> then 00:53 < CompotatoJ> we will program it to 00:53 < courtc> 'surround' 00:53 < joecool> i wonder.. will it be able to take advantage of the 4g's clock-like clickwheel 00:53 < CompotatoJ> i made snake for my calculator 00:53 < CompotatoJ> so this shouldnt be that much harder 00:53 < courtc> and 'snake' .. two seperate games.. 00:53 < CompotatoJ> 'surround' ?? 00:54 < coob> surround == tron lightcycles 00:55 < CompotatoJ> o 00:58 -!- piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0920.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:58 < CompotatoJ> Hey piratePenguin 00:59 < joecool> hi Penguinpirate 00:59 < piratePenguin> hey :D 01:00 < CompotatoJ> Sorry you have dial-up.. =[ 01:00 < piratePenguin> yea lol.. It's crap.. broadband's not available in my area (yet) 01:01 < piratePenguin> so I'm on ISDN (64k dialup) 01:01 < joecool> no IDSL even where you are? 01:02 < piratePenguin> IDSL? 01:02 < joecool> yeah.. basically a glorified form of isdn that runs at ~144kbps and goes much further from a CO then ADSL or SDSL 01:04 < coob> i'm getting a new ADSL provider on weds to replace my cable 01:04 < coob> double the bandwidth for the same price, easy choice. 01:04 < joecool> heh.. i have crappy ADSL 01:04 < joecool> 512/128 01:05 < piratePenguin> haven't heard of IDSL before... I could get satellite bb but it's a ripoff... so is dialup I suppose 01:05 < coob> just bought a DSL modem that runs uClinux :D 01:05 < joecool> and since sprint monopolized my area, they have no intention of upgrading speeds 01:05 < piratePenguin> cool 01:05 < joecool> $50 for a 512/128 line is outrageous... but its the best i can get here 01:06 < coob> joecool: you don't have cable? 01:06 < piratePenguin> ?50 per month for 512k in Dublin... and ya have to pay for the modem etc.. Eircom are a ripoff 01:06 < joecool> well.. 2-way is getting installed in the area.. but i have a REALLY long driveway, and it'll cost a small fortune to get it installed 01:07 < piratePenguin> lol 01:08 < joecool> satellite is out of the question for $100 a month, plus the dish cost, 2000ms latency, horrible upload speeds, and a throttled download speed 01:08 < CompotatoJ> satellite sux 01:08 < joecool> i could double the speed of my ADSL for $10 more a month.. but i'm really cheap 01:08 < joecool> so i deal with it 01:09 < piratePenguin> yup.. slightly better than ISDN probably.. but a ripoff 01:09 < piratePenguin> @CompotatoJ 01:10 < joecool> piratePenguin: you should really talk to any nearby providers and check about idsl, its not that fast.. but its over double the speed of idsn 01:11 < piratePenguin> cool.. I'll look into it but the providers around here are pretty crap tbh... 01:12 < joecool> piratePenguin: well.... it can't be much worse then here, i'm less then 100mi from NYC, and i can't get decent broadband, (sprint owns phone, dsl, and cell service in my whole area) 01:14 < piratePenguin> heh.. well, I'm in Ireland :D ... trust me, it's worse here... bb's only a new thing in the cities, and I don't think it's coming round to my area untill at least next year... 01:14 < courtc> coob Changelog for cube.c ? 01:16 -!- zsk001 [~Zsombor@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:16 < CompotatoJ> 5mbps up/384kbps down =] 01:16 < piratePenguin> whoa 01:17 < veteran> MY VALENTINE'S CARD IS HERE YESSS 01:17 < coob> added cube - a spinning 3D graphics demo 01:17 < coob> ? 01:17 < veteran> (radeon 9800) 01:17 < coob> i had vaelntines day last friday :D 01:17 < courtc> since you took it out of rockbox cvs, hat have you changed? 01:17 < coob> missed all the high priced roses :D 01:18 < joecool> CompotatoJ: is that backwards? or do you just have an insane upload? 01:18 < courtc> hat and shoe.. I mean *What 01:18 < coob> uh changed control system, stats display, added zoom, added solid rendering 01:19 < courtc> cool 01:19 < veteran> heh i bought a rose from a bum today 01:19 < coob> lool 01:19 < veteran> i dont know why... i never buy stuff from bums 01:20 < coob> i like those honest bums 01:20 < coob> ones with 'give me cash for weed' cards. 01:20 < joecool> lol 01:20 < veteran> haha 01:20 < veteran> the police here have signs that say the same thing 01:21 < coob> your police sound cool. 01:21 < veteran> there was a big scandal about one of our cops who was dealing obtained drugs 01:21 -!- Hostile|newserve [~lanteau@cblmdm69-45-208-47.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:21 < coob> haha 01:22 < coob> obtained as in confiscated? 01:22 < veteran> yeah that's the word 01:23 < courtc> cvs commit: "initial import - ported from rockbox" file(s): cube.c menu.c 01:24 < courtc> cvs commit: "implemented new Makefile, and cube" file(s): Makefile ChangeLog 01:24 < veteran> very nice pasting 01:24 < coob> is that automated? 01:25 < courtc> thats my manual automated script 01:25 < courtc> _I_ do it automatically.. ;) 01:25 < courtc> I figure someone cares.. 01:26 * veteran looks around 01:26 < veteran> someone. :D 01:27 < coob> http://www.rockbox.org/docs/credits.html <-- we need a contributors list that long :< 01:27 < courtc> perhaps not.. whatever. 01:27 -!- [fubar]tandoori [ThePersian@c-24-4-195-208.client.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 < piratePenguin> we have almost that amount of ppl in this channel... 01:28 < joecool> courtc: which cvs is that in? 01:28 -!- [fubar]tandoori [ThePersian@c-24-4-195-208.client.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:28 < courtc> _the_ cvs 01:28 < joecool> tools/podzilla module/ 01:28 < joecool> ? 01:29 < courtc> where else would i put cube ? 01:29 < joecool> i dunno.. but i just tried a checkout.. its not there yet 01:29 < joecool> i guess sf is just slow 01:29 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:30 < courtc> haha.. you wont get it in anon cvs for a few hours 01:30 < joecool> aww... 01:30 < joecool> i can't wait!! 01:31 < joecool> there any ways i can get it quicker? 01:31 < piratePenguin> use the patch? 01:31 < joecool> oh? 01:31 < coob> http://coob.org/cube-2b.diff 01:32 < courtc> Makefile changes are big.. you'll want to implement that as soon as possible.. 01:33 < courtc> http://www.so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/Makefile 01:36 < courtc> and for the first time _ever_ I'm able to compile without makefile modifications :) 01:36 < fakker> hmmmm 01:36 < fakker> just raped everyone on cs public ^_^ 01:37 < joecool> done.. booting 01:37 < coob> courtc: is there any way to store objects in seperate dirs for the seperate builds? 01:37 < joecool> coob: nice, zoom is awesome 01:37 < coob> i hate having to make clean and then recompile every time i want to test on my ipod :< 01:37 < fakker> howto howto :P 01:38 < courtc> coob.. look at the Makefile 01:38 < courtc> it sets it up nice and purty like.. 01:39 < courtc> someone needs to change the wiki directions now.. 01:39 < coob> no i mean the object files clac.o pz.o etc .. do they have to go in the main dir? 01:39 < coob> couldn't they go in .buildtype-objs/ or something (i have no idea how to use make heh) 01:44 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 01:44 < courtc> you could have a couple podzilla dis and use lndir 01:46 < courtc> make clean; cd ..; mkdir podzilla+ipod; cd podzilla+ipod; lndir ../podzilla+src; make IPOD=1 01:59 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:02 -!- piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0920.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:08 < coob> ouh lndir is nice 02:09 < CompotatoJ> so does anyone know who is the main programmer for the 4gs 02:09 < coob> why 02:09 < CompotatoJ> not to annoy him 02:10 < coob> ... then why 02:10 < CompotatoJ> but i wanted to ask him about actual code and what he needed to get done and if he needed any help 02:10 < CompotatoJ> <-- noob, but my friend is helping me learn stuff 02:11 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/4g#What_can_I_do_to_help.3F 02:11 < CompotatoJ> i talked with him and he said that arm asm is really generic 02:11 < CompotatoJ> dude it says to IRC the Devs 02:12 < coob> do you have 02:12 < coob> # kernel programing knowledge (ARM ASM a welcome bonus) and/or 02:12 < coob> # dissasembly/reverse engineering talent, 02:12 < coob> Failing that, there is plenty of other things you can do to help 02:12 < fakker> like getting your ipod borked with tests 02:13 < Synapse-> Sounds fun. 02:13 < Synapse-> Do you get cookies? 02:13 < CompotatoJ> If by me you mean my friend then yes, he knows asm and reverse engineering and dissasembly 02:15 < CompotatoJ> I showed him a podzilla source file and he said that you had written the code well and he may want to hepl out 02:15 < CompotatoJ> help* 02:16 < coob> podzilla has nothing to do with arm asm 02:16 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:16 < CompotatoJ> so 02:16 < coob> if you want to help build podzilla for the desktop and submit some patches 02:16 < CompotatoJ> ok 02:16 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-65-225.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:16 < coob> there's probably little you can do on the hardware side. 02:16 < CompotatoJ> but you are being very elisive =] 02:16 < CompotatoJ> elusive* 02:17 < CompotatoJ> I was wondering if my friend could help out in any way with his knowlage at dissasembly and stuff and a 4g at hand 02:17 < coob> well we wouldn't know without talking to him. 02:17 < CompotatoJ> ok 02:17 < CompotatoJ> sure thing 02:18 < CompotatoJ> ill have him IRC u guys 02:18 -!- Compudude2292 [~boxgamex8@nr30-69-61-181-174.fuse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:18 < Compudude2292> hey eveyone 02:18 < CompotatoJ> hi 02:20 -!- usr010 [~usr010@nr4-216-196-155-202.fuse.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:20 < CompotatoJ> Podzilla for the desktop? 02:20 < coob> read the wiki 02:20 < CompotatoJ> k 02:20 < CompotatoJ> hrm 02:20 < CompotatoJ> i thought i have read the whole wiki =/ 02:21 < coob> courtc: is there even a microwindows driver for the photo yet? heh 02:22 < CompotatoJ> wow! 02:22 < CompotatoJ> that is awesome 02:22 < CompotatoJ> whoever developed that podzilla for the desktop is cool and smart 02:23 < fakker> you gonna have their babies? 02:23 < CompotatoJ> naw 02:26 < wm_eddie> Ok, what is the logic of the contents of the fxx folders? 02:26 < fakker> http://www.monkeyfight.org/phishtank/ipodlinux.jpg 02:26 -!- sleepless [~sleepy@65.124.109.153] has joined #ipodlinux 02:27 < CompotatoJ> apple ipod compatibility 02:27 < CompotatoJ> nothing the iPL can do to fix it 02:27 < CompotatoJ> i believe 02:27 < wm_eddie> Well, I need to find a song in one of these 50 folders... 02:28 -!- MrBIOS [aperez@adsl-209-204-186-239.sonic.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:28 < MrBIOS> howdy folks 02:28 < CompotatoJ> search 02:28 < CompotatoJ> lol 02:29 < CompotatoJ> open up terminsl 02:29 < CompotatoJ> terminal 02:29 < wm_eddie> Yeah, but I wan't to know how they are ordered... 02:29 < coob> wm_eddie: that's why there's the iTunesDB file.. 02:29 < coob> they're in no particular order. 02:29 < CompotatoJ> yeah 02:29 < wm_eddie> You mean they are random! 02:29 < wm_eddie> WHY... 02:30 < coob> why not 02:30 < coob> doesn't matter to the ipod firmware 02:30 < coob> they have a db file 02:30 < MrBIOS> is there a functional music player for ipodlinux which can utilize the iPod directory structure/info databse? 02:30 < coob> yes. 02:30 < MrBIOS> which formats is it capable of playing? 02:30 < coob> mp3/wav 02:30 < MrBIOS> FLAC? 02:30 < coob> MPD can play flac yes but doesn't use the iTunesDB as it doesn't support flac. 02:31 < coob> ipodlinux.org/MPD for flac. 02:31 < MrBIOS> the iTunesDB has to support FLAC? 02:31 < joecool> MrBIOS: well it doesn't 02:31 < MrBIOS> are you kidding me? 02:31 -!- muesli [~muesli@mail.muehlhaeuser.de] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 02:31 < joecool> MrBIOS: oh comon.. just drop the friggin FLAC files into folders or something and play it then 02:31 < coob> the itunesdb syncs with itunes which doesn't support flac so there are no flac files listed in itunesdb 02:32 < MrBIOS> no AAC/MPEG-4 media playability? 02:32 < coob> no. fancy writing it? 02:32 < MrBIOS> does the third gen iPod have an FPU? probably not 02:33 < MrBIOS> presumably you guys need a fixed-point AAC decoder? 02:33 < coob> do you interview yourself like dick cheney? yes you do. 02:33 < wm_eddie> by the way, are there any free AAC implementations? 02:33 < MrBIOS> wm_eddie, yes there are 02:33 < coob> of course there are. 02:33 < MrBIOS> several 02:33 < fakker> people use itunes?:\ 02:33 < coob> ok this is enough of noob hour im out. 02:33 < joecool> coob: lol.. aww don't knock cheney, he's awesome to listen to 02:33 < wm_eddie> lol 02:33 < coob> i'll knock whoever the fuck I like. 02:33 < wm_eddie> I'll have to look at them later. 02:33 < MrBIOS> if by "awesome" you mean "gruesomely painful", then I agree. 02:35 < CompotatoJ> Cheney 02:40 -!- sleepless [~sleepy@65.124.109.153] has quit ["generic quit message"] 02:40 -!- Compudude2292 [~boxgamex8@nr30-69-61-181-174.fuse.net] has quit [] 02:44 < joecool> oh, he publically humiliates liberals.. what can be better then that 02:45 < coob> this isn't the place for political pissing contests. fuck off to #weallsuckbecauseweargueaboutpoliticsinanipodchannel please. 02:46 < MrBIOS> is mpd for ipodlinux currently capable of playing vorbis files? 02:46 < wm_eddie> no 02:46 < coob> no. 02:46 < joecool> no 02:46 < joecool> coob: orr, #politics works too 02:46 < MrBIOS> what's the best place to get a hold of the people porting mpd to ipodlinux? 02:47 < wm_eddie> #mpd? 02:47 < coob> here an people = person, 'normalperson' to be precise. 02:47 < MrBIOS> coob, that made a *lot* of sense.... 02:48 < coob> there's only one person working on it - normalperson (look at the names list) 02:48 < wm_eddie> it did... 02:48 < coob> you're advise to read the MPD page on the wiki and his user page before asking him for anything 02:49 < coob> advised* 02:49 * wm_eddie gets arm-elf tools installed on his desktop 02:49 < MrBIOS> coob, already done 02:49 < MrBIOS> coob, thanks for your assistance 02:57 < wm_eddie> I'll start really hacking on my ipod by Friday. 02:57 < wm_eddie> really busy this week. 02:59 < joecool> wm_eddie: what gen ipod you have? 02:59 < coob> courtc: what needs doing to make font support a reality? 02:59 < wm_eddie> joecool: 4th 03:00 < joecool> wm_eddie: hmm, you are going to be working on sound support? 03:01 < wm_eddie> I'll be doing whatever I can to get it to play oggs 03:01 < coob> be abit hard with no audio support. guess you could still work on a decoder. 03:02 < joecool> wm_eddie: if you know ARM and C, you could give audio support a try on the kernel 03:02 < joecool> thats the first and foremost thing before ogg gets going 03:02 < wm_eddie> coob: Of course I'll be working on audio support first. 03:03 < wm_eddie> I know C, and MIPS, I was reading the PDFs linked off the site for ARM earlier today. 03:04 < wm_eddie> I need to do that get on the ML thing. 03:05 < wm_eddie> You guys use forums? 03:06 -!- veteran [~b@70.84.20.244] has joined #ipodlinux 03:06 < coob> wm_eddie: have you even looked at the website? 03:07 < wm_eddie> coob: I spoke too soon. 03:08 -!- bLeW [~blew@stjh1-2573.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 < fakker> http://search.ebay.com/tape-adapter_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 03:08 < fakker> these things work on ipod? 03:08 < wm_eddie> fakker: I don't see why they wouldn't 03:08 < fakker> ok 03:08 < fakker> time to find a place that sells them in uk: 03:09 < fakker> shop anyway 03:09 < wm_eddie> You just plug it into the headphone jack, and then put the take in your car radio. 03:09 < coob> yeah i have one, works fine 03:09 < coob> itrip looks cooler tho. 03:10 < joecool> ... itrip also sounds worse 03:10 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 03:10 < fakker> itrip costs more money 03:10 < coob> theres a cool one griffin or belkin or whoever made that sense the rewind/fastforward stuff and sends commands back to the ipod as well. 03:10 < fakker> which is the most important factor 03:10 < joecool> i'm working on direct line-in in my car.. to bypass the hissy sounding cassette adaptor 03:10 * coob afk 03:10 < fakker> coob http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=3151&productId=119446 03:10 < fakker> that one? 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Think that book will help with iPod stuff? 04:37 < wm_eddie> Or maybe Building Embedded Linux Systems by Karim Yaghmour. 04:38 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:39 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:45 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-196-220.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:46 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:48 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-196-220.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 04:50 -!- Sliverq [~thebass@adsl-69-109-223-121.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:11 -!- Sliverq [~thebass@adsl-69-109-223-121.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:13 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:19 -!- Sliverq [~thebass@adsl-69-109-223-121.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:20 < joecool> i updated the wiki, its not outta date anymore 05:22 < joecool> will do the new 4g_hacking section tommorow :P 05:22 < joecool> later guys 05:22 < macPod> oh hells yea 05:22 < macPod> finally got that new makefile up :) 05:22 < joecool> yep, and i updated the wiki, so its all good (i was wonderin why at first my build failed heh) 05:22 < wm_eddie> joecool: I'll make sure to read that 4g_hacking section 05:23 < joecool> wm_eddie: i'm just gonna add a specific howto on how to get the kernel and loader going on it 05:23 < joecool> other people can add more things 05:24 < joecool> the main 4g page shouldn't have the junk about installing.. i'll make it nice :) 05:25 < wm_eddie> hmm... I need $60 for those two kernel books... 05:25 < joecool> ... is that disclaimer really needed on top of the 4g status page 05:26 * joecool thinks... 05:26 < wm_eddie> yes 05:26 < joecool> yeah.. keeps away stupid people 05:26 < joecool> :) 05:27 -!- Benjmon [~ben@S01060004e2388237.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:27 < Benjmon> Hello 05:28 < joecool> hey hey 05:28 < Benjmon> Whats up 05:28 < joecool> nm, u? 05:28 < Benjmon> not much 05:29 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:29 -!- Benjmon [~ben@S01060004e2388237.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:29 < joecool> wow.. that was fast 05:29 < joecool> no goodbye? 05:29 < joecool> bummer. 05:30 < wm_eddie> it was a quickie irc chat... 05:41 -!- muesli [~muesli@mail.muehlhaeuser.de] has joined #ipodlinux 05:49 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:49 -!- rafl [~florian@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:1757] has quit [Read error: 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[~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49 -!- pokute [~pokute@83.214.35.129] has joined #ipodlinux 17:56 -!- v1p3r [~v1p3r@host81-152-199-221.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:56 < v1p3r> hi all 17:57 < v1p3r> Ive built the kernel using the instructions in the Wiki (I used the CVS version of uClinux), should this binary work on the 4G? 17:58 < nilss> yea 17:58 < v1p3r> thanks :) 17:58 < lgates> the kernel i built works fine 17:58 < lgates> on my 4g 17:58 < lgates> ;-) 17:59 < v1p3r> trying to compile this stuff without X isnt fun :/ 18:00 * v1p3r kicks old monitor that X spits out 18:08 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEB1EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:09 -!- rage [~rage@ppp110-83.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit ["Killed by Cap (Requested by panasync)"] 18:12 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:20 -!- v1p3r 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apples ? 19:13 < faxxer> then dock it 19:13 < ArkantoS> so menu/play-pause button 19:13 < faxxer> i dont know, i havent got a 3g 19:13 < ArkantoS> ok 19:13 < faxxer> i thought i saw on the forum though 19:14 < ArkantoS> it's doing that now 19:14 < ArkantoS> apple firmware was still the default so i'm waiting now till it's done 19:14 < faxxer> someone said boot back into the normal apple stuff, then dock 19:14 < faxxer> and itll work 19:14 < ArkantoS> ok 19:14 < ArkantoS> i did now 19:14 < ArkantoS> and nothing happens again :s 19:14 < ArkantoS> it just loads the battery :s 19:16 -!- {stealth} [~Stealth@pcp01189772pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 < faxxer> look ont h e forum, theres an answer 19:16 < ArkantoS> ok 19:16 < ArkantoS> let's hope :) 19:16 * ArkantoS is praying 19:18 * {stealth} stealth is wondering how he got here 19:18 < {stealth}> :) 19:18 < {stealth}> faxxer a familar face 19:18 < {stealth}> :) 19:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 19:19 < faxxer> :p 19:19 < courtc> haha! 19:19 < faxxer> what about fakker? 19:20 < faxxer> courtc i got my damn tape thing :D 19:20 < {stealth}> hehe 19:20 < faxxer> cost £3 19:20 < faxxer> there's no hissing noise either, which made me happy too heh 19:20 < courtc> fakker- I have no idea what you are talking about... 19:21 < faxxer> fair enough :p 19:21 < ArkantoS> damn nothing happens :( 19:21 < ArkantoS> it still doesn't shows up :( 19:21 < faxxer> go get the apple firmware thing :p 19:22 < faxxer> or throw it in the bin 19:22 * {stealth} on AnacønÐa ns2.01 by Snake available at http://anaconda.pt.vu/ "If it can be borrowed and it can be broken, you will borrow it and you will break it" 19:22 < courtc> ArkantoS- have you tried booting into disk mode? 19:22 < {stealth}> sorry to advertise 19:22 < {stealth}> hmm 19:22 < {stealth}> should have did that 19:22 < {stealth}> shouldnt 19:22 < courtc> yes, please dont 19:23 < faxxer> yeah, im gonna get my ipod to ddos you 19:23 < faxxer> lemme load up kaiten.c 19:23 < {stealth}> hehe 19:23 < ArkantoS> my iPod is now in disk mode 19:23 < ArkantoS> there is: "OK to disconnect" 19:24 < ArkantoS> and that's all, a big V above it 19:24 < ArkantoS> now plugging in? 19:24 < steiny> whar host os are you using? ArkantoS? 19:24 < steiny> yepp 19:24 < ArkantoS> i'm using Windows XP 19:25 < ArkantoS> and again nothing happens... not even a little sound as before 19:25 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-65-225.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26 < courtc> possibly a problem with the firewire cable or firewire card in your pc.. 19:26 * ArkantoS is sad 19:26 < ArkantoS> no cause everything worked before without problems 19:26 < steiny> maybe do a reboot with your pod connected... 19:26 < courtc> as it should now.. disk mode isnt on the hd.. it wasnt changed.. 19:29 < ArkantoS> hmm i just tried it on my other pc with the usb cable, and it worked perfect 19:30 < ArkantoS> thanks for that suggestion, now i'm already sure my ipod isn't for the trashcan ;) 19:37 < ArkantoS> i'll go now 19:37 < ArkantoS> thx 19:37 < ArkantoS> and bye 19:37 < ArkantoS> ttys 19:37 -!- ArkantoS [ArkantoS@156.219-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [] 19:42 < lonran> hi 19:42 < lonran> is there any problem if the ipod remains connected to the pc for a long time? 19:45 < courtc> well, the battery will have a shorter life after a while.. but thats about it.. 19:52 -!- Synapse-_ is now known as Synapse- 19:53 < coob> woo 19:53 < coob> got a calendar font sorted 19:53 < coob> as GR_BITMAPS 19:54 < courtc> coob - http://www.ipodlinux.org/requests/index.php?do=details&id=24 19:54 < courtc> did you read that? 19:54 -!- steiny [~steiny@d2-237.dip.isp-service.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 19:55 < coob> yeah well this in the absence of proper font support 19:55 < coob> until there is proper font support anyway 19:56 < coob> go a small array of bitmaps for the numbers 19:56 < coob> got* 19:56 < coob> just playing with calendar.c atm, it's a beast :< 19:56 < courtc> yea, you just asked a while ago about font support 19:56 < coob> ah yeah 19:57 < coob> just wondering if there were plans to finish/commit it 19:57 < courtc> meh.. I dont have the time for now.. 19:58 < coob> fair enough 20:01 < coob> http://www.ipodlinux.org/requests/index.php?do=details&id=35 20:01 < coob> how can i link that to the font task? 20:04 < courtc> however.. use that link.. Its fine.. everyone uses the www. for request anyway.. it redirects.. 20:04 < coob> no i meant within flyspray 'thes tasks are required before this can be completed' or whatever 20:05 < courtc> just add it as #35 20:06 < courtc> but that really doenst require font support.. bold can be done by redrawing the text a few times.. 20:08 < coob> heh would have to figure a way of implementing hyperlinks 20:08 < courtc> yea, fun 20:12 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:14 < coob> ErrorsTo save time manually verifying your note files, the Note Reader automatically checks each note for errors.Any note containing the tag will have its entire contents replaced by errors found while parsing the note files. 20:15 < coob> cool 20:15 < coob> didn't know the fw did that 20:15 -!- Pander [~chatzilla@dslam171-7-173-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 20:15 -!- RandomUser57 [~antacid69@CPE-144-131-108-54.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 20:17 < courtc> http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/0862.shtml 20:20 < coob> i was wondeirng how they did their plugin stuff with no dynamic linker.. 20:30 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has joined #ipodlinux 20:30 < courtc> joecool- thanks for those podzila instruction updates 20:31 < joecool> no problem... i'll be working on the 4g_hacking section a bit today 20:31 < joecool> i wanna write up a howto for building the loader and kernel on the 4g 20:32 < joecool> courtc: and i discovered a bug in last night's cvs (i dunno if there were changes today) 20:32 < courtc> ok.. 20:32 < joecool> you know how the main menu usually says Podzilla on it? 20:33 < joecool> well now it says the name of the last menu you were in 20:33 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-65-225.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:33 < courtc> that bug has been around since the ice age... 20:33 < joecool> my bad, just took notice of it 20:33 < courtc> yea, I've been blamed for it 4 times now :/ 20:34 < courtc> joecool- make a tracker for it on flyspay if you could.. 20:34 < joecool> never used flyspray, but i'll check it out now 20:34 < loofus> courtc: Its all your fault! 20:34 < loofus> Seppuku 20:42 -!- Kilian [~chatzilla@ANancy-152-1-27-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 20:55 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:57 -!- Kilian [~chatzilla@ANancy-152-1-27-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]"] 21:03 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:04 -!- Kilian [~chatzilla@ANancy-152-1-27-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 -!- Sneakeri [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:12 < lgates> hey all i have an idea... is make_fw capable of loading more than 2 images ? 21:12 < lgates> for instance.. if i wanted to load 2 kernels 21:12 < lgates> and mod the bootloader for other button combos 21:13 < courtc> already works, should be able to load 5 21:13 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-65-225.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:13 < courtc> read the README 21:13 -!- RandomUser57 [~antacid69@CPE-144-131-108-54.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:13 -!- ninjaz [~ninjaz@66.188.40.158.bay.mi.chartermi.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:13 < lgates> the make_fw readme? 21:13 < lgates> lol 21:13 -!- piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0668.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:13 < lgates> i compiled form cvs so i enver had one... good idea 21:14 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-196-220.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 21:14 < courtc> the bootloader readme.. should be in cvs 21:14 < lgates> i was going to compile some kernels at differnt clock speeds and see how it affects preformance 21:14 < lgates> ahh 21:15 -!- piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0668.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:15 < lgates> in theory i could run at 90.... but the batter life would likley be horrible. 21:15 < courtc> and the temperature.. 21:15 < lgates> but if it does not harm the voltage much its worth a shot to get it running full speed... 21:15 < lgates> also true 21:15 -!- shadowro [~shadowro@81.180.46.59] has joined #ipodlinux 21:15 < fakker> michael jackson is 'ill' eh 21:16 < courtc> the arm7tdmis on a pp5020 are clocked to run at 80 not 90 21:16 < lgates> i could make a mini heantsync in my lab. 21:16 < lgates> im not afriad to break things for the sake of experimentation.. h ehe 21:16 < lgates> i know awm processores are very heat breakage prone 21:16 < lgates> arm* 21:16 < joecool> courtc: yeah, i wonder though.. is it possible to OC them back to 90 if needed? 21:16 < shadowro> hello 21:16 < shadowro> can anyone help me with my mini? 21:16 < lgates> thats wha tim saing 21:17 < lgates> i am going to compile an alternate kernel and laoder 21:17 < lgates> for 90 21:17 < joecool> shadowro: just ask the question, don't ask to ask 21:17 < lgates> so i can switch betweeen 90 and 75 21:17 < lgates> 2 kernels and oen userland 21:17 < lgates> and switch at will. 21:17 < shadowro> :) ok so i've read the 4G page 21:17 < shadowro> and dd'ed the files 21:17 < lgates> it would be like a turbo switch on a 486 21:17 < lgates> LoL! 21:17 < shadowro> but it doesn't boot 21:18 < shadowro> i made a firmware_patched file according to the instructions for the other ipods 21:18 < lgates> the kernel does not boot? 21:18 < lgates> or the loader 21:19 < shadowro> but it just displays the folder with a question mark. 21:19 < shadowro> do i have to build my own kernel? 21:19 < lgates> read the site 21:19 < lgates> kernel building 21:19 < lgates> no you dont need to bui8ld your own kernel 21:19 < shadowro> i did 21:19 < shadowro> several times 21:19 < lgates> i did 21:19 < lgates> because i wanted to get a feel for it 21:19 < lgates> but there are prebuilt ones in the beta dir 21:20 < shadowro> i'll probably do it myself at some point in time 21:20 < shadowro> so it should work 21:20 < shadowro> with the precompiled kernels? 21:20 < joecool> ... i'm hopefully going to have a good howto for this stuff up soon 21:20 < lgates> i booted the one from the beta dir just fine 21:21 < shadowro> ok i'll try again 21:23 < courtc> lgates it is likely that a arm7tdmi at 90mhz will cause some things in the ipod to melt, if not burn out the processor first.. not to mention that if they are only rated at 80mhz then 90 will case excessive overheating.. I would suggest against it.. 21:25 < lgates> ohh i was told tehy were speced at 90 21:25 < courtc> nope not on a pp5020.. the pp5002 cores are though 21:26 < lgates> dont 4gs have pp5002s? 21:26 < courtc> no 21:26 < lgates> photo? 21:26 < courtc> no 21:27 < courtc> mini photo and 4g all use a pp5020 21:27 < lgates> so the older ones 21:27 < lgates> actually had faster processors 21:27 < lgates> intresting 21:28 < lgates> well the current ipl kernel patches make it run at 75 21:28 -!- Sneakeri [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:28 < lgates> so 80 is not much of a streach 21:28 < lgates> tho i am assuming its only at 75 21:28 < lgates> for battery saving 21:28 < lgates> correct>? 21:28 -!- leachbj_ [~chatzilla@user-7367.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 -!- Kilian [~chatzilla@ANancy-152-1-27-192.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:28 -!- Sneakeri [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 < lgates> heya leach 21:29 < leachbj_> evening... 21:29 < lgates> chatzilla.. havent used that in a while. nice 21:29 < leachbj_> not really my first choice. 21:29 < Pander> hi all 21:30 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:30 < coob> hiya leachbj how did the move go? 21:31 < lgates> hey leachbj . ive been playing with the bootloader and i must say your implimentation of the bootloader image is most intresting. i tried to duplicate it however i ended up with a tiny image in center with a duplicated horrible rez cersion cloned underneath it 21:31 < lgates> is there some really weird trick to it im overlooking? 21:32 < lgates> Ohh yeah! You just moved to uk. Excuse my manners. lol 21:32 < fakker> hmm, where in the UK? 21:32 < leachbj_> the move comes later, I'm the scouting party ;) 21:33 < leachbj_> london 21:33 < fakker> me too :p 21:33 < coob> heh same 21:33 < lgates> your all in london? 21:33 < fakker> im north london, yea 21:33 < coob> it's a big city... 21:33 < Pander> Netherlands 21:33 < leachbj_> umm bootloader... what was the problem? 21:33 < fakker> hertfordshire>you 21:33 < lgates> here i am in terre haute indiana. 21:34 < lgates> well... i tried converting using mikeys script to make life easier... but images seem to come out swis cheese 21:34 < lgates> i was told only you and mikey really understood the implementation of it 21:35 < leachbj_> ah ok, new bootloader icon/image thing... 21:35 < lgates> what was the max pixil size possible. 50x50 only filsl a tiny spon in the center of the screen and i get horrible static underneath the image.. its bizarre 21:35 < lgates> yeah 21:37 < coob> is the format in any way similar to xbmp? 21:37 < shadowro> nope doesn't work 21:37 < shadowro> i think i'm making /dev/sda1 the wrong way 21:37 < shadowro> ipodloader-0.3.2/make_fw -o my_sw.bin -l kernel/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod3.bin ipodloader-0.3.2/loader.bin 21:37 < shadowro> does that sound right? 21:37 < shadowro> help? 21:37 < shadowro> how do i build an image for /dev/sda1 for ipod mini? 21:37 < leachbj_> to be honest I dont even remember creating the orginal image... and the actual logo one I didnt ;) 21:37 -!- faxxer [~faxxer@cpc1-hitc3-5-0-cust156.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:37 < shadowro> can someone please help with te boot image... 21:37 < lgates> well mikey wrote a script to convert xpms.. but it only seems to work with gracsale. i get seg faults if i try to use 4 color indexed. im missing somthing here. 21:38 < lgates> doh. 21:38 < lgates> then mikey is prob the only person who knows. 21:38 < lgates> suppsoe ill have to pm him and hope he responds 21:39 < shadowro> lgates: how did you create the image for /dev/sda1? 21:39 < leachbj_> ah ok... ummm basically the image is just normal packed pixels... 21:39 -!- faxxer [~fakker@cpc1-hitc3-5-0-cust156.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:39 < lgates> i gatherd that much looking at code. obviously it was not done with pure hex codes by hand 21:40 < lgates> so im wondering about a simple conversion method 21:40 < coob> at 2bpp? little endian? 21:41 < leachbj_> coob: yes 21:41 < leachbj_> i probably have some script thing somewhere... 21:41 < lgates> shadowro. i used cvs make_fw with the patched makefw.c floating around 21:42 < courtc> shadowro- that kernel is not a 4g one.. 21:42 < shadowro> well 21:42 < shadowro> lgates said he booted from it 21:42 < lgates> if you could find that id be eternally grateful. im a graphics artist and wanted to play with it and see if i can make a custom bootloader creation util utility 21:42 < lgates> no shadow. i booted from leachbjs 4g kernel 21:42 < lgates> from the beta dir 21:43 < shadowro> i tried uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2 and -ipod3-1 21:43 < lgates> i also compiled one of my own tha ti cnat seem to find... 21:44 < lgates> i could just give you my my_sw.bin 21:44 < lgates> and you could dd it over 21:44 < lgates> and volia 21:44 < lgates> instant 4g linux 21:44 < lgates> lol 21:45 < shadowro> what is it called then? 21:45 < shadowro> g4_tests.tgz? 21:45 < shadowro> that would be great 21:45 < shadowro> yup 21:45 < lgates> pm me your email 21:45 < lgates> ill send it 21:45 < courtc> anyone tried the arm-uclinux-tools-base-gcc3.4.0-20040610 ? 21:45 < lgates> everythings working and running but mp3 21:46 < lgates> also my bootlaoder image is screwed.. but if you cna live with that its a good image 21:46 < faxxer> :) 21:46 < lgates> disk image* 21:47 < lgates> shadow your not going to be abel to get though my firewalls 21:47 < lgates> dont bother 21:47 < lgates> pm me emial 21:47 < lgates> lol 21:47 < shadowro> sorry bout that 21:47 < shadowro> but i don't use irc much 21:47 < shadowro> and this client is weird 21:48 -!- ssteve [~Steve@cpe-69-202-69-22.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 -!- filcab [~filcab@83.144.134.141] has joined #iPodLinux 21:48 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:49 < lgates> dd over my my_sw.bin. then use the the sda3 image from the beta 21:49 < lgates> then get the cueb2 podzilla 21:49 < lgates> and you will be all set 21:49 < shadowro> what podzilla is that? 21:50 < shadowro> podzilla_4g? 21:50 < courtc> btw bern.. whaddya think about 'Fun' ? did you see that change? 21:51 < lgates> no you need to get the cube version from the forum 21:51 < lgates> the regulay one has the contrast screwed 21:51 < coob> lgates: it's in cvs now. 21:51 < lgates> at least thats been my experence 21:51 < lgates> ohh good 21:51 < lgates> you heard coob 21:51 < lgates> grab it off cvs 21:51 < lgates> :-) 21:52 < lgates> email is sending... 21:52 < leachbj_> courtc: yeah 'fun' seems good 21:52 < coob> heh leachbj_ did you see my other pointles graphics demo :< 21:52 < leachbj_> yeah I checked out the movie earlier... great stuff. 21:52 < faxxer> ffs 21:52 < faxxer> fuck all on tv 21:53 < lgates> shadow ill go ahead and send you my precompiled working podzilal too... 21:53 < lgates> save you time 21:53 < lgates> unless your comfortable using the cvs one 21:54 < shadowro> please send it 21:54 < lgates> trying 21:55 < lgates> gemails not behaving.. 21:55 < lgates> gmail* 21:55 < shadowro> once i get something working 21:55 < shadowro> i'll start experimenting 21:55 < lgates> :-) 21:55 < Pander> short question people, where can i find itunesdb.h ? 21:55 < lgates> ok this may take a while to send 21:56 < joecool> lgates: don't bother, i'll upload mine to my server 21:56 < lgates> your uplaoding your my_sw.bin? 21:56 < joecool> i was gonna send the precompiled podzilla 21:57 < lgates> ohh 21:57 < joecool> you want my_sw.bin also (i have a 20gb 4g) 21:57 < courtc> ld.real: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory strange.. 21:57 < lgates> im ill ahve fiules and ahowto up for 4g by end of day 21:57 < lgates> make life easier 21:58 < lgates> lol 21:59 < coob> ouh winner, can use qsort to randomise an array :D 21:59 < shadowro> i was going to offer to write a howto myself after i get it to work :) 21:59 < lgates> good you can help me 21:59 < lgates> pm me for ftp acess 21:59 < lgates> ;-) 22:00 < lgates> im goung to take screenshots 22:00 < lgates> woo 22:00 < courtc> everyone want to write a howto.. noone wants to read the one thats there already :/ 22:00 < faxxer> lol 22:01 < lgates> a detailed 4g one with images 22:01 < lgates> so peopel are nto constantly having to ask in here 22:01 < lgates> save irc bandwidth 22:01 < lgates> lol 22:01 < lgates> ;-) 22:02 < courtc> strangely enough installing on a 4g is barely different from compiling the kernel and installing on a <4g 22:02 < joecool> courtc: can i add to the regular one then, the 4g specific parts? 22:03 < courtc> what exactly is '4g specific'? 22:03 < leachbj_> the 4 part ;) 22:03 < courtc> :) 22:03 < lgates> links to actual working files and the formattiong options 22:03 < lgates> amen 22:03 < lgates> lol 22:05 < filcab> leachbj (or someone else :D): Where did you get the files from the kernel? uClinux.org only has 2.0.x can't find any 2.4.x (nor 2.6.x)... BTW Do you have a diff of the changes you've made? 22:05 < shadowro> courtc: the docs on installing for the 'supported' ipods are ok 22:05 < shadowro> but the 2 paragraphs about 4g are... small. :) 22:05 < shadowro> yeah but the compiling part... 22:05 < lgates> shadow i uploaded it to my server 22:05 < lgates> ipodlinux.udderweb.com 22:05 < lgates> enjoy 22:05 < lgates> ill uplod the podzilla too 22:05 < shadowro> thank you 22:05 < shadowro> i just dd'ed the kernel 22:05 < lgates> done 22:06 < shadowro> rebooting... 22:06 < lgates> ill up my userland with working podzilla too 22:06 < lgates> might as well have all 3 22:06 < shadowro> it works! 22:06 < courtc> believe it or not, there is a reason why the directions for 4g are a little ambiguous 22:07 < shadowro> now for podzilla 22:07 < shadowro> yeah i read the part about not understanding fdisk commands 22:07 < shadowro> lol 22:07 < lgates> he he 22:08 < filcab> lol 22:08 < lgates> im dumping my userland now... 22:08 < Pander> hej guys, find . -name itunesdb.h ... 22:09 < courtc> Pander- did you read the wiki? ;) 22:09 < Pander> yeah i'm reading though it for the x time 22:10 < Pander> mainly reading the documentation on the website 22:10 < lgates> uppind 4g_userland with cube2a podzilla 22:10 < courtc> read harder ;D 22:10 < lgates> upping* 22:12 < Pander> reading very very hard at the moment :P 22:12 -!- kurced [kurced@cpe-66-74-89-254.socal.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:16 < Pander> call me stupid (STUOID) but I can't seem to find where to download itunesdb.h 22:17 < faxxer> stuoid 22:17 -!- leachbj_ [~chatzilla@user-7367.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:17 < courtc> you look on http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla ? 22:18 < courtc> under "Setup your build environment" ? 22:19 < shadowro> lgates: i got your userland 22:19 < courtc> where it says: "libitunesdb: Download the latest tarball from [1] (http://libitunesdb.sourceforge.net/). Note the current CVS version has some minor fixes - most notably playback times" ? 22:19 < lgates> shadow pm me 22:19 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:26 -!- steiny [~steiny@d2-237.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:29 -!- steiny [~steiny@d2-237.dip.isp-service.de] has left #ipodlinux ["Verlassend"] 22:30 -!- steiny [~steiny@d2-237.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ipodlinux 22:31 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:42 -!- tx297 [h@adsl-68-88-65-225.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:50 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:54 < coob> mmmkay that 'wave effect' in matrix.c should be sorted 22:56 < courtc> video? 22:56 -!- Pander [~chatzilla@dslam171-7-173-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20050105]"] 22:56 < coob> heh my ipod's bust 22:56 < coob> it's doing that weird non starting thing. 22:56 < courtc> eh.. use patch_fw 22:56 < coob> no 22:57 < courtc> ok... 22:57 < coob> non starting thing as won't boot into anything.. it's not a linux problem 22:57 < coob> hd spins up for a second then stops 22:57 < coob> can get into disk mode but it doens't work 22:57 < courtc> yea.. i think its a bootloader thing.. can you get into disk mode? 22:57 < courtc> ahh. 22:58 < faxxer> that matrix thing 22:58 < coob> i get the disk mode screen but the same disk spining up thing doesn't work 22:58 < faxxer> you should make it wave around where you mvoe the wheel 22:58 < coob> er what do you mean 22:58 < coob> 'wave around' 22:58 < coob> the wave was an undesired updating effect. 22:58 < faxxer> ah 22:59 < faxxer> nevermind then :P 22:59 < coob> i just have to add a scroll to effect tho heh 22:59 < shadowro> update: i got the whole thing working on my mini now 22:59 < shadowro> will probably write some sort of howto, tomorrot 23:00 < shadowro> but podzilla definitely needs some changing for eg. screen size 23:00 < courtc> shadowro- get to work on it then ;) 23:00 * coob switchs to diag mode and flicks the backlight on until the bat drains 23:01 < coob> shadowro: that's in the works 23:01 < shadowro> i will 23:01 < coob> shadowro: some of it has already been done. 23:01 < shadowro> i have my last exam friday 23:01 < shadowro> so after that i might try my hand at some coding :) 23:01 -!- joecool [~joecool@joecool.no-sources] has quit ["bbl in like an hour"] 23:03 < shadowro> so i'll see you around, right now i definitely need sleep. bye! 23:04 -!- shadowro [~shadowro@81.180.46.59] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 23:07 < coob> aha col someone ported fortune 23:07 < coob> *cool 23:10 < wm_eddie> awesome 23:15 -!- fakker [~m0n0@cpc1-hitc3-5-0-cust156.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:19 -!- Fenix-Dark [~Fenix-Dar@ool-4353af2a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:19 < Fenix-Dark> hello 23:19 -!- filcab [~filcab@83.144.134.141] has quit [] 23:19 < Fenix-Dark> any knowledgable os x or linux users here? 23:20 < coob> ... 23:20 < CompotatoJ> ... 23:21 < courtc> ... 23:21 < wm_eddie> ... 23:22 < steiny> ... 23:23 < Fenix-Dark> anyone know if its possible (os x) to make a desktop shortcut that is linked to a shell script? i wanna open a specific file type and have it run that script, to run the script i have to type 'screen bt filename.torrent' is it possible (i figured you guys would know) 23:23 < courtc> seriously ... you are in #ipodlinux ... where else can you find a group of both linux and osx users that are rather experianced.. other than #fink or something 23:24 < Fenix-Dark> yea 23:24 < Fenix-Dark> thats why i came here 23:24 < courtc> that is a very off-topic question though.. 23:24 < wm_eddie> Fenix-Dark: that's pretty easy to do with applescript... 23:24 < Fenix-Dark> i know 23:24 < Fenix-Dark> how would i do that? 23:25 < Fenix-Dark> the script is located in /usr/bin/bt btw 23:26 < wm_eddie> tell application Terminal open new window ... something goes here ... end tell 23:26 < Fenix-Dark> ...okay 23:26 < Fenix-Dark> where do i make the applescript 23:26 < wm_eddie> In the applescript editor. 23:27 < wm_eddie> I'm not at work right now, so I have none of my books on me. 23:27 < Fenix-Dark> ok 23:27 < Fenix-Dark> is that in the applications folder? 23:27 -!- fakker [~m0n0@cpc1-hitc3-5-0-cust156.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:27 < Fenix-Dark> or developer folder (xtools) or utilities? 23:27 < wm_eddie> Applications:Applescriptsomething 23:27 < wm_eddie> the simple editor. 23:27 < Fenix-Dark> ok 23:27 < Fenix-Dark> thanks 23:28 < wm_eddie> then there's that crazy applescript studio. 23:28 < wm_eddie> But that's for other stuff. 23:28 < Fenix-Dark> yea 23:28 < Fenix-Dark> i found script editor 23:29 < wm_eddie> I could really hit the hay right now, but it's only 6:30 23:29 < wm_eddie> Fenix-Dark: FEEL MY PAIN! 23:29 < Fenix-Dark> wow 23:29 < wm_eddie> (working with applescript) 23:29 < Fenix-Dark> slightly early 23:30 < wm_eddie> I haven't slept at all in 30 something hours. 23:30 < Fenix-Dark> woah 23:30 < wm_eddie> I have a palm application I have to work on, and I want to get linux installed on my ipod... 23:30 < wm_eddie> but I'm too tired :( 23:31 < Fenix-Dark> just run the installer 23:31 < Fenix-Dark> its simple enough 23:31 < coob> Fenix-Dark: what's wrong with the GUI bt apps? 23:31 < Fenix-Dark> and so far my applescript says 'tell application "Terminal" activate' 23:32 < wm_eddie> Fenix-Dark: open the Terminal dictionary to see what things you can tell Terminal to do. 23:32 < Fenix-Dark> coob, well i haven't been able to get the GUI on bittornado working without some errors, it uses a lot of extra memory, and i just dont like the other bit torrent apps that are os x native (tomato torrent, and the origional one) 23:32 < Fenix-Dark> ok 23:33 < wm_eddie> Fenix-Dark: I'm on linux right now, and I want to build everything so if I come across a bug I can fix it. 23:33 < Fenix-Dark> ok 23:33 < wm_eddie> Fenix-Dark: Have you tried Azureus? 23:33 < coob> well can you take this to msg or something? it's a bit ot. 23:33 < Fenix-Dark> its java 23:33 < Fenix-Dark> and a bit slow 23:33 -!- CompotatoJ [~Compotato@66-27-114-13.san.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:33 < Fenix-Dark> coob, thats fine with me. wm_eddie do you mind? 23:34 < wm_eddie> I have like 30 minutes of conciousness left... 23:34 < Fenix-Dark> lol 23:34 -!- leachbj [~chatzilla@user-7367.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 23:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 23:41 < coob> menu.c:107: warning: `shuffle_options' defined but not used 23:41 < courtc> yup.. 23:41 < coob> that an ipod only thing? 23:42 < courtc> nope 23:42 < coob> why's it still there then heh 23:42 < courtc> ask Evildude.. or leachbj 23:43 < leachbj> err its Evildude's fault ;) 23:43 < courtc> :) 23:43 < coob> heh 23:47 < coob> courtc: any idea if it's possible to adjust a grtimer's duration whilst it's running? can't find anything on timers in the api docs 23:48 < courtc> destroy the timer and make a new one... :/ 23:48 < coob> ouh yeah that could work 23:53 < courtc> leachbj- I know its not in the books for now, but have you looked at http://opensrc.sec.samsung.com/notice.html ? seems that hes done some dma work.. 23:54 < leachbj> he maybe just added the file I asked him to restore ;) 23:54 < courtc> heh 23:55 < leachbj> he didnt need it for his builds but for firewire it is needed 23:56 < leachbj> 2.6.9 probably would be worth trying again... no idea when I'll get a chance though... 23:58 < coob> http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/codecs/libmad/ <-- that'll be interesting to watch 23:59 < leachbj> ah yeah speaking of imports, court did you happen to import the original cube.c from rockbox? or just coob's version? --- Log closed Wed Feb 16 00:00:00 2005