--- Log opened Fri Jan 21 00:00:02 2005 00:02 -!- Random [~random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:04 -!- Big_Luk [~lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:14 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:29 -!- Neb154 [~Neb154@pool-141-149-245-142.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:31 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:32 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:33 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:03 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:05 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:12 < Neb154> hello is anyone in here? 01:12 < Neb154> well, thats anyone who wants to help me with my compiling of podzilla? 01:14 -!- zer0python [~zer0pytho@zer0python.user] has joined #iPodLinux 01:14 < Neb154> hello is anyone in here? 01:18 < zer0python> I use USB not firewire to connect my iPod.. that wont cause any unwanted issue's would it? (if anyone knows) 01:21 < Neb154> No i don't think it will. 01:21 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:21 < Neb154> Never seen any problems with that. 01:21 < zer0python> I dun think it would either.. but linux can be bitchy at times :| 01:22 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:22 < zer0python> bleh 01:22 < zer0python> actually it wouldn't make sense for it to cause an issue 01:22 < zer0python> seeing as how that really shouldn't matter 01:26 < Neb154> Yeah 01:27 -!- Neb154 [~Neb154@pool-141-149-245-142.buff.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 01:42 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:43 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:43 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:47 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:53 -!- ryanlrussell [~Default@inside-rtr.bigfix.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:54 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:54 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:55 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:56 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:56 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:57 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:12 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:13 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:14 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:33 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:33 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:33 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:37 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:37 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:41 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:56 -!- strestout1 [~strestout@nc-65-41-185-41.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:12 -!- CompotatoJ [~Jeff@24-25-221-85.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:13 -!- bonzi [~bonzi52@S01060004e29cb034.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:17 -!- CompotatoJ [~Jeff@24-25-221-85.san.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:25 -!- elinenbe_ [elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [" The IRC Client of the Gods! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- HydraIRC"] 03:47 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:47 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:18 < veteran> anyone here tried lcdproc? 04:18 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 04:32 -!- carote [~tobyisagi@CPE-144-133-196-220.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:36 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:37 -!- ineffiblemind [~Admin@66-188-77-61.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:37 -!- ineffiblemind [~Admin@66-188-77-61.cpe.ga.charter.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:38 -!- rsbeq-cam [~doom@pool-151-200-13-247.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:39 < Hostile> night all 04:40 < BleuLlama> ni 04:40 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:43 -!- rsbeq-cam [~doom@pool-151-200-13-247.res.east.verizon.net] has quit ["hyphen"] 04:48 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:04 < courtc> *burp 05:07 < BleuLlama> yo 05:18 -!- BleuGrowl [~BleuGrowl@67-138-73-73.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:40 < zer0python> bleh 05:40 < zer0python> my ipod tripple faults 05:44 < zer0python> I get a folder with an exclamation point when it boots.. then it reboots 05:45 < nusse> reinstall bootloader+kernel 05:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o veteran ] by Luke 05:48 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:07 < zer0python> hmm 06:07 < zer0python> same thing :s 06:08 < Nitrocld> Hello! 06:08 < Nitrocld> I turn 18 in 8 days, what should I do on my birthday? 06:08 < courtc> you arent trying to install on a 4g are you? 06:09 < macPod> buy a pack of ciggaretts and porn then give them to your dad 06:09 < macPod> then tell him you think ciggaretts are disgusting 06:11 < Nitrocld> hah 06:12 < Nitrocld> Silver Bullet is only 5 minutes from my house 06:13 < courtc> hmm.. textviewer reallocs alot... 06:13 < Nitrocld> But really... what should I do... 06:13 < courtc> thats not good.. 06:14 < Nitrocld> When you guys do get 4G iPods working, I'll love to know 06:14 < macPod> http://ipodlinux.org/blog/ 06:14 < macPod> keep that as a bookmark 06:14 < Nitrocld> Yeah 06:15 < Nitrocld> brb 06:15 -!- Nitrocld [peadens@ip68-107-202-54.nc.hr.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:16 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:17 < zer0python> no text in this page huh? 06:17 < zer0python> ...or case sensitive 06:18 < veteran> ...? which page 06:21 -!- Nitrocld [peadens@ip68-107-202-54.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:21 < Nitrocld> Okay 06:21 < Nitrocld> I'm here 06:23 < courtc> veteran- whats the stat on the feature thang? 06:23 < veteran> havent touched it in a while 06:23 < veteran> we need to announce summit asap 06:23 < courtc> maybe we should wait for bern ... 06:23 < zer0python> blog 06:23 < Nitrocld> How much of a hurdle is everything else compared to FB support? (4g) 06:24 < courtc> Nitrocld- 7 miles 06:24 < Nitrocld> Oh. 06:24 < Nitrocld> Think it'll be cracked by fall? 06:25 < courtc> of 2019? sure.. maybe even befor that.. 06:25 < Nitrocld> :-P 06:26 < Nitrocld> It can't be that grim. 06:26 < Nitrocld> If it ever gets that grim I'd donate my own for reverse engineering when the batteries died 06:26 < courtc> Its not.. but you cant put a deadline on opensource programming :/ 06:27 < veteran> courtc - he wont be getting back till 2 days before it's scheduled 06:28 < courtc> its scheduled than? 06:28 < veteran> uh yeah... 06:28 < veteran> we had that meeting remember 06:30 < zer0python> guess I got a 4g ipod 06:30 < zer0python> -_- 06:30 < zer0python> blargh 06:30 < veteran> gotta run, talk about it later 06:30 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 06:30 < Nitrocld> zer0python: What kind do you have? 06:33 < zer0python> 20gb 4g model aparently 06:33 < Nitrocld> I mean what's the store name 06:34 < zer0python> I don't understand what you mean 06:34 < Nitrocld> What would it be sold as 06:34 < zer0python> I'm officially lost 06:35 < Nitrocld> Dude... like 20GB iPod with Clickwheel? 06:35 < Nitrocld> What it says on the box 06:36 < courtc> Its a 4g 20g.. thats all you need know ... :/ 06:36 < courtc> that means its a clickwheel 06:37 < zer0python> and yes.. it's a clickwheel 06:37 * normalperson yawns 06:37 < courtc> :| 06:37 < courtc> hey normalperson 06:37 < normalperson> hey, courtc 06:37 < Nitrocld> I got the U2 version for Christmas... it's pretty, but what a crock 06:38 < Nitrocld> I thought it CAME with music... 06:38 < Nitrocld> So Apple's advertising seemed to suggest 06:38 < heathkit> It doesn't? 06:38 < heathkit> Not even the song they use to sell it? 06:39 < Nitrocld> Nope. 06:40 < Nitrocld> It comes with a $50 coupon for "The Complete U2" set from Apple... and with that coupon it still costs $100. 06:40 < heathkit> haha, wow 06:40 < zer0python> lol 06:40 < Nitrocld> So I ******* it. **** them now ;) 06:40 < zer0python> persoanally.. I don't like U2 enough to buy the U2 version 06:41 < Nitrocld> It says "Please Don't Pirate Music" on the plastic screen protector 06:41 < Nitrocld> I like classic rock and that's why I got what I got. 06:42 < courtc> Thats like an invitation.. 06:42 < Nitrocld> courtc: That's why I laughed when I read it. 06:43 < Nitrocld> besides... I don't "pirate" music... I prefer to say I "imported" it from Canada where everything is "cheaper" 06:43 < zer0python> nitrocld, o.o 06:44 < zer0python> I rip a lot of my music.. 06:44 < zer0python> (off the internet that is..) 06:44 < Nitrocld> I have 2 DVDs, and 170 legal songs on my iPod 06:44 < courtc> I dunno why the call it pirating.. It makes you feel like you should ahve a parrot.. 06:45 < zer0python> how many songs on your ipod? 06:45 < Nitrocld> Oh 06:45 < Nitrocld> I have 128 legal songs 06:45 < Nitrocld> 143 total 06:46 < Nitrocld> 10 GB free 06:46 < zer0python> 10gb free? 06:46 < Nitrocld> Yeah 06:46 < zer0python> what size hdd? 06:46 < Nitrocld> 20GB 06:47 < Nitrocld> I think you missed the part about the 2 ripped DVDs on my iPod 06:47 < zer0python> :o 06:47 < Nitrocld> They are ~4.7GB a piece 06:47 < zer0python> why.. on your ipod 06:47 < Nitrocld> I ran out of HDD space 06:47 < Nitrocld> 3.9G 06:47 < zer0python> good reason I guess 06:47 < zer0python> :s 06:47 < Nitrocld> I'm like... I need more HDD space... ooo... why not. 06:47 < Nitrocld> ls 06:49 < Nitrocld> I have a 10 GB HDD just for archived stuff on my computer that's nearly full 06:50 < courtc> hhahaha.. thats all? 06:51 < Nitrocld> PLus a lot on my main drive 06:52 < courtc> :/ sorry, was mean to laugh :p 06:53 < zer0python> hmm 06:53 < Nitrocld> I have about... 10+10+20 = 40 GB in "stuff" archives 06:53 < zer0python> could be worse 06:53 < zer0python> I have a 6.1GB hdd for overall space 06:53 < zer0python> of course that's my notebook 06:53 < zer0python> my desktop has a 7.xxGB hdd 06:53 < zer0python> and my server has a 40GB ^_^ 06:56 < courtc> ferris==40GB; washrag~=40GB; joy==60GB; court==160GB; pensieve==200GB 06:57 < courtc> nono.. pensieve has 270GB 06:58 < courtc> then theres 3 more each with about 4-6GB 07:00 < courtc> and, unfortunatly, I'm running out of hd space.. 07:01 < Nitrocld> HMEC has a 250 that's got 200 free, but I can't raise it 07:17 < courtc> hmm... what about turning the textviewer into an entirely buffer focused thing? or perhaps seperate the file buffering, and text display.. Therefor you could call the text display OR the file bufferer, which would use the textdisplay to display the file... 07:18 < courtc> and all this mallocing has to go.. Its way too slow on the ipod.. 07:19 < courtc> opinions? macPod BleuLlama anyone? 07:23 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 07:23 < davidc__> yo yo yo 07:24 < courtc> hey 07:28 < davidc__> hey courtc 07:34 -!- Nitrocld [peadens@ip68-107-202-54.nc.hr.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:36 -!- Nitrocld [peadens@ip68-107-202-54.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:41 -!- tucanoj [~tucanoj@108.120.cm.sunflower.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:44 -!- Big_Luk [~lmd@d54C3DAC5.access.telenet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:48 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:23 -!- tlg [~tlg@250-219.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 09:31 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:38 * davidc__ is away: sleep is for the davidc__ 09:49 -!- cohmapappWork 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is a pain 15:08 < macPod> just dev on the iPod 15:09 < jolan> well i installed it, but what do you use instead of /dev/dsp ? 15:09 < macPod> it's more than just that, you would have to recompile ipps 15:10 < macPod> and I'm not exactly sure how you installed it on osx because it has not been ported 15:10 < jolan> oos ? fink has a port of liboss 15:10 < courtc> macPod- the mp3.c detects if you arent on the ipod and it tries to use mad 15:11 < macPod> ah 15:11 * macPod does nto like fink 15:11 < macPod> killed my comp a while ago 15:11 < jolan> killed ?? 15:12 < macPod> it locked me out of the os and even of single user mod 15:12 < jolan> strange 15:12 < macPod> probably did nto write something correctly to the rc startup script 15:12 < courtc> thats what rescue disks are for ;) 15:13 < macPod> I like to live dangerously 15:14 < courtc> Any spare linux disk works for us pc users ;) 15:14 < macPod> I just used the install cd to fix :P 15:15 < macPod> and I dont mean I reinstalled 15:15 < courtc> same idea.. Thats not killing your computer.. Thats an everyday chore 15:16 < macPod> for windows and linux users I guess 15:16 < macPod> macs tend to be a bit more stable and reliable than that however ;P 15:17 < courtc> ha 15:18 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 < courtc> and I mean ha in the most derisive way.. 15:19 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 15:22 < macPod> gah, noobs 15:23 < macPod> I tell the pers to hold the button down as soon as the iPod resets. they reply I do, but first I wait for the apple logo 15:23 < courtc> heh 15:26 < macPod> damn windows installer 15:26 < courtc> yay.. bugs--; 15:35 -!- Sneaker^ [~Jonne@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:47 -!- acs [~acs@212.Red-80-36-133.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 15:51 < macPod> Renzsu is a jackass 15:51 < macPod> he cannot take off the case because he will chip his iPod? 15:53 < macPod> also watch v1p3r on the forums 15:53 < macPod> for some reason I seem to remember that name before and posting something pointless on the wiki 15:53 < courtc> he thinks you mean the ipod case.. 15:54 < courtc> like taking the cover off. 15:54 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:54 < macPod> lol 15:54 < courtc> there were two v1p3r s 15:55 < courtc> one was v1per i think 15:55 < macPod> yea, this one just deleted all the content in the firmware page 15:55 < macPod> not the forums, the wiki 15:57 < macPod> I would have laughed my ass off if he actually took off the cover 15:57 < courtc> haha 15:58 < macPod> I wonder why he thought that? He does use Japanese, I guess there must be some odd translation 16:01 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [" imekää munaa kaikki perkele"] 16:02 < macPod> Luke you present? 16:13 < macPod> I think that should be the noob forum icon 16:14 < courtc> It my new desktop :p 16:15 < macPod> there is a bigger version on the wiki fyi :P 16:16 < courtc> he just upload a picture of.. himself? 16:16 < macPod> apparently :D 16:16 < courtc> thats pretty hilarious 16:17 < macPod> I think we should remove ti from the wiki, he is probably going to offsite link to his image 16:17 < macPod> we should change it to goat.cx man 16:17 < courtc> haha 16:17 < macPod> he probably has it on his profile :) 16:17 < macPod> then all the new forum noob avatars would be what I just sent you 16:17 < macPod> perfect 16:18 < courtc> I need to figure out an avatar for myself also.. 16:19 < macPod> Luke has a good one 16:19 < macPod> you should add to his, make yours that chicken nugget looking thing 16:19 < macPod> with teeth 16:20 < courtc> the funny thing about him uploading that picture is that it puts it under a free licence :) 16:21 < macPod> hahaha 16:21 < courtc> chicken nugget? 16:22 < macPod> http://www.mlcsmith.com/humor/art/god-kills-kitten.jpg 16:23 < courtc> haha 16:39 -!- jolan [~joseph@alesia-8-82-224-213-120.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 16:40 < courtc> there.. it looks good if i get an odd post 16:40 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=72 16:41 < macPod> I thik you could find a better pic of it 16:41 < courtc> nope.. thats the one I want... 16:43 < courtc> I think I might change it to php though.. a random picture every time it get requested 16:45 < macPod> http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/karate_kat.jpg heh 16:45 < courtc> man, I hate cats.. 16:46 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:46 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:48 < courtc> and its not that I'm just a dog lover.. I use to have 2 cats.. and 4 cockatiels and a dog living in the house.. boy that sucked.. 16:49 < courtc> my house was almost a food chain in itself.. 16:51 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 -!- Sneaker [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 < courtc> who has a handy version of podzilla build on x11 handy? 17:01 < courtc> handy handy handy.. 17:02 < Jack_MD> which podzilla version? I've an old podzilla build for x11 on os x... 17:03 < courtc> one build sometime after.. august? 17:04 -!- Sneaker [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [" imekää munaa kaikki perkele"] 17:04 < courtc> actually any after 2004-06-27 should be fine 17:06 < Jack_MD> mh.. don't know.. why do you need it? 17:07 < courtc> I need someone to test the textviewer..all you need to do is try and open pz.c with it... 17:08 < courtc> and lemme know if it segfaults.. 17:09 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:10 < Jack_MD> ok, I can make a fresh build of the newest version, if you can give me the urls to the sources 17:11 < courtc> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux login 17:11 < courtc> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co -d podzilla tools/podzilla 17:12 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla has everything else... 17:12 < Jack_MD> ok, wait 17:14 < Jack_MD> do we need jpeglib? 17:14 < Jack_MD> or libitunesdb? 17:16 < courtc> not for this test, but you will if you want to build for the ipod.. you dont need to rebuild it all.. I can probably set up another podzilla to test myself.. 17:16 < Jack_MD> mh.. ok, what do you want now? 17:17 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [" imekää munaa kaikki perkele"] 17:17 < courtc> .. nadda 17:17 < Jack_MD> nadda? 17:19 < courtc> yes, nothing 17:19 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 17:19 -!- cmf_ [~lou@adsl-213-249-162-22.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ipodlinux 17:20 < Jack_MD> @courtc: so you want to compile it on your own? 17:20 < courtc> well, I've already got hmm.. 6 podzilla trees 17:22 < courtc> yea, it wont open.. it doesnt open files without extentions and .txt exts 17:22 < courtc> rather, thats all it opens 17:26 -!- cohmapappWork [~cohmapapp@corporate.homestead-inc.com] has quit [] 17:29 -!- torpor [~torpor@pD9FF2FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < torpor> yo. 17:29 < torpor> hello. 17:29 < courtc> hey 17:29 < Jack_MD> hi 17:30 < torpor> i just got a ipod-mini, and *foolishly* gave my old one (rev-a.) to my little brother. 17:30 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:30 < torpor> so now, i'm interested in helping out with the "4g" ipod hacking. 17:30 < torpor> have mini, will hack. 17:31 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 < courtc> how much kernel hacking have you done? and do you know any arm asm? 17:38 < torpor> i have used kernel since the day of the minix list post. and i hack arm code for a living. 17:38 < torpor> but, i would not say that i'm good at it. i mean hack in the real sense of the word. 17:39 < torpor> my company is considering a portalplayer fdk purchase, but i'm trying to get out of it .. 17:41 < courtc> cool, I'm not sure of any '4g ' devs around.. you'll probably want to talk to davidc__ or leachbj when he gets back 17:41 < torpor> i'll lurk .. whats the 'normal time' to catch those folk? 17:41 < torpor> i'm in germany. 17:41 < courtc> nilss might be doing some work also.. 17:42 < torpor> cool. 17:42 < torpor> well i guess i better work out the firmware path into my ipod-mini, then .. 17:42 < courtc> leachbj and nilss are also in germany.. davidc__ is in GMT-8 17:43 < torpor> cool. 17:43 < torpor> i wish i had my old ipod around to test with .. whats the 'best' ipod for ipodlinux so far, then, in terms of 'generation'? 17:43 < Jack_MD> hey, I'm also in germany! but I don't know how to hack the kernel and I don't have a 4g :'( 17:43 < courtc> I suppose you checked out ipodlinux.org/4g ? 17:43 < torpor> i'm reading it now .. 17:43 < nilss> re ;) (just saw my nick was hilighted) 17:44 < torpor> i got to the /4g part, saw the reference to this channel, and joined. 17:44 < BleuLlama> i think the 3g is probably the best for currently-supported ipl hacking 17:44 < torpor> hi nilss 17:44 < courtc> 1st 2nd and 3rd generations all work fine with ipodlinux, but the 3g is the only one thats supports recording.. 17:45 < torpor> 3g.. 17:45 < nilss> torpor: do you know how the irq handling works? ;) 17:45 < torpor> i must confess, i got the first ipod, then ignored all other ipods until i got this mini for christmas .. 17:45 < torpor> nilss: under ipodlinux? or the linux kernel? 17:46 < torpor> .S files in arch/ 17:46 < nilss> in the linux kernel because there's something wrong with it on 4g 17:46 < torpor> oh. 17:47 < nilss> irqs work (at least the timer) but some of the irq_unlock and lock functions freeze sometimes 17:47 < torpor> well, a) i don't have an ipodlinux devchain installed yet, b) i don't have a machine i can install it on (unless OSX arm-linux-gcc will build the kernel), and c) i don't yet have things together to hack my mini and test things out. 17:47 < torpor> but when i do get it set up (i'll use VPC for the devchain) i'll be really happy to try to hack it .. 17:47 < nilss> arm-linux-gcc should be fine for that afaik 17:47 < torpor> the 4g's are based on the ARM7, tho' right? 17:48 < nilss> yea, dualcore arm7tdmi 17:48 < torpor> s/arm-linux-gcc/arm-darwin-gcc/ 17:48 < torpor> its the dualcore'ness of it that makes me think that this is a custom SOC design. 17:48 < torpor> <-- just catching up with the guts of ipods. 17:48 < Jack_MD> *g* there is an arm-toolchain for osx, and with the first one I got the kernel compiled. 17:48 < torpor> i suppose the datasheet is around somewhere? 17:49 < nilss> only the one for the arm7tdmi itself but nothing useful about the pp5020 17:49 < BleuLlama> pp5020 datasheets are only available under NDA, right? 17:50 < torpor> okay, i'm thinking i can get a pp5020 datasheet. 17:50 < nilss> that would help a lot :) 17:50 < torpor> its possible, anyway, no promises .. 17:52 < torpor> okay, bbl. 17:52 < torpor> if i get the datasheet, i'll swing by.. 17:52 < nilss> k 17:52 -!- torpor [~torpor@pD9FF2FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 17:53 * Mayoral is away: Not behind the keyboard 17:58 < Jack_MD> ok, leaving now.. 17:58 < Jack_MD> cya 17:58 < courtc> by 17:58 < courtc> e 18:00 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:00 < zer0python> pp5020 = 4g chipset or 1, 2, and 3g chipset? 18:00 < courtc> 4g. photo, mini, u2 chip 18:06 < BleuLlama> 1,2,3g chipset -> PP5002? 18:06 < courtc> hmm. theres a character in .c files that the textviewer doesnt seem to like... 18:06 < courtc> yup 18:06 < BleuLlama> which character? hexdump -C thefile.c 18:07 < BleuLlama> (and is anyone working on a Notes viewer?) 18:08 < courtc> well I'm workin on the text viewer.. witch is kinda the same thing.. 18:08 < courtc> it reads from and parses strings now also.. 18:10 < zer0python> sounds fun! :D 18:10 < courtc> hmm.. *which 18:11 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:11 < AustinGradePhoto> hey 18:11 < AustinGradePhoto> does nayone know where to get games for my ipod? 18:11 < AustinGradePhoto> like real games 18:11 < courtc> ... 18:11 < zer0python> surely you don't mean something like doom 3 or something right? :s 18:12 < AustinGradePhoto> hahhahah no 18:12 < AustinGradePhoto> i mean like games liek solitair, brick and stuff 18:12 < AustinGradePhoto> i can only find the gay text games 18:12 * zer0python likes doing some programming but what to program 18:13 < courtc> AustinGradePhoto- you have linux on your ipod? 18:13 < AustinGradePhoto> no 18:13 < AustinGradePhoto> how do you put linux on yoru ipod? 18:13 < courtc> then i will procede to ignore you.. 18:13 < AustinGradePhoto> thanks. 18:13 < AustinGradePhoto> whats the point of having linux on your computer? 18:14 < zer0python> *feels like 18:14 < zer0python> heh 18:14 < zer0python> austingradephoto, it's better than windows 18:14 < zer0python> imo 18:14 < AustinGradePhoto> but on an ipod? 18:14 < zer0python> well 18:14 < zer0python> ipodlinux supports games ya know 18:14 < courtc> you want games.. thers one reason 18:14 < AustinGradePhoto> i dont knwo what ipod linux is 18:14 < zer0python> ... 18:14 < zer0python> yet you join the channel 18:15 < zer0python> www.ipodlinux.org 18:15 < BleuLlama> courtc: the "Notes" format is like a stripped down HTML kind of thing..,. pretty simple XML/HTML... 18:15 < AustinGradePhoto> well li thoguht it was just a ipod channel 18:15 < courtc> AustinGradePhoto- you should just leave in shame... 18:15 < BleuLlama> but i suppose you know that already 18:15 * BleuLlama stfu 18:15 < AustinGradePhoto> ohk im gunan go see www.ipodlinux.org 18:15 < AustinGradePhoto> one sec 18:16 < BleuLlama> i should work on porting zmachine to ipodlinux. hehe. 18:16 < courtc> haha.. yea, pythos built a parser recently.. and I worked on one a few months ago.. 18:16 < BleuLlama> infocom text adventures on an ipod. that would rock. 18:16 < BleuLlama> :) cool. 18:16 < AustinGradePhoto> once linux is on the you dont have the same features as regular ipod right? because regular ipod is gone 18:16 < BleuLlama> all of this is covered in the faq, isn't it? 18:17 < courtc> why yes BleuLlama it is.. 18:17 < courtc> Imagine that :p 18:17 < AustinGradePhoto> i dont know im looking 18:17 < BleuLlama> even a speed reader couldn't read the entire faq in 45 seconds, could they, courtc? 18:17 < zer0python> austingradephoto, I'd encourage you to do a little more homework before asking such stupid questions.. 18:18 < AustinGradePhoto> oh you can choose what firmware you want to boot up from. 18:18 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:19 < courtc> haha.. 18:19 < BleuLlama> zing! 18:19 < zer0python> woohoo 18:19 < zer0python> he's gone! 18:20 < zer0python> ...was I rude? 18:20 < BleuLlama> a little, but i think it was warranted. ;) 18:20 < BleuLlama> i was holding back a lot... 18:20 < courtc> I gonna go eat.. Then I'll get back to damn debugging... *sigh i remember the good old days when i didnt have to debug anything(before I knew how to program..) 18:21 < BleuLlama> courtc: there's a simple, obvious solution 18:21 < BleuLlama> just don't put any bugs into your code in the first place! 18:21 < BleuLlama> silly. 18:22 < zer0python> bleullama, wow.. I wish I thought of that.. that would save me a lot of time and effort 18:23 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:23 < AustinGradePhoto> #iPodlounge 18:23 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:23 < BleuLlama> heh 18:24 < zer0python> and he expects us to follow? 18:24 < courtc> actually i'm pretty sure they arent my bugs :p 18:24 < BleuLlama> i think he just screwed up joining the other channel 18:24 < courtc> #theresnoipodloungeonfreenode 18:25 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:25 < AustinGradePhoto> #ipodlounge 18:25 < AustinGradePhoto> that is the best room ever 18:25 < BleuLlama> why are you here? 18:25 < courtc> well go frollic with your apple firmware loveing buddies then 18:26 < BleuLlama> okay 18:26 * BleuLlama leaves #ipodlinux 18:26 < AustinGradePhoto> ohk 18:26 < zer0python> ... 18:27 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:27 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 < courtc> hmm... 18:27 < BleuLlama> heh. i accidently emoted it instead of doing it. 18:27 < AustinGradePhoto> i won all of you guys 18:27 < BleuLlama> <- moron 18:27 -!- AustinGradePhoto [~austin@ip68-4-214-247.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:27 < BleuLlama> NOBODY WINS ME! 18:27 < zer0python> ... 18:27 < courtc> he won? 18:27 < zer0python> anyone here have ops to ban this dude? :\ 18:27 < zer0python> courtc, yeah he won 18:28 < zer0python> "the loser of the year award" 18:28 < courtc> i can ban the people who can ban him.. does that count? 18:28 < BleuLlama> no, i don't think so. it's not an associative thing. 18:28 < zer0python> o>o 18:30 < courtc> I got demoted from king of das ban en shniden.. (disclamer: I know no german, dont hurt me...) 18:31 < BleuLlama> totte welpen machen keinn spass 18:31 < BleuLlama> (butchered, but it's one of the few german phrases i know) 18:31 < courtc> totte puppies make keinn fun? 18:31 < BleuLlama> dead puppies aren't much fun 18:32 < BleuLlama> (that's what it's supposed to be, anyway) 18:32 < courtc> ah.. 18:32 < BleuLlama> gardenhozing. sounds german but isn't 18:33 < courtc> who wants to debug some code? 18:33 < courtc> :D 18:35 < courtc> silence huh? well do it anyway http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/textview.c 18:35 < courtc> :p 18:35 < zer0python> hmm 18:36 < zer0python> nice 18:36 < zer0python> I guess 18:36 < courtc> you... guess? 18:38 < BleuLlama> okay. i see what's wrong. gimme a sec 18:38 < courtc> really? 18:38 < BleuLlama> line 47 18:39 < BleuLlama> no. i'm making shit up. 18:39 < BleuLlama> :p 18:39 < courtc> uh.. line 47 is a close bracket.. :p 18:39 < BleuLlama> random guess 18:39 < BleuLlama> wouldn't it have been awesome if there really was something wrong on that line? 18:39 < BleuLlama> hehe 18:39 < zer0python> if I was more aquanted with pz, I'd help :p 18:39 < BleuLlama> what's the problem with it? 18:39 < courtc> nice try.. Its about as effective... 18:40 < zer0python> ? 18:41 < courtc> segfault.. it reads up to 443 lines from pz.c then it trys to do a realloc and f's it up 18:41 < zer0python> so it's your read parser 18:42 < BleuLlama> ralloc is messy... it'll fragment ram... why not just scan the file once, to figure out how much ram is needed, then just malloc that? 18:42 < BleuLlama> *might fragment 18:42 < courtc> it'll do a similar thing on any .c file i've given it.. but it seems to work fine on all others i've tried 18:43 < BleuLlama> what's 443 lines into pz.c? what does the text there look like? 18:43 < courtc> because the amount of ram depends on how big the text is graphics wise.. 18:43 < zer0python> if((localAr = (char**)realloc(localAr, sizeof(char *) * 18:43 < zer0python> (allocedlines + 20)))==NULL) { 18:44 < zer0python> shouldn't that be: 18:45 < zer0python> if((localAr = (char**)realloc(localAr, (sizeof(char *) * allocedlines) + 20)) == NULL) { 18:45 < zer0python> :s 18:45 < courtc> there arent 443 lines in pz.c :) it has wrap lines.. lemme see if i can pull it up in gdb again 18:45 < BleuLlama> z: i think they want 20 extra char* lines in there, not 20 extra bytes. 18:46 < BleuLlama> leave space for 20 lines (20 pointers) not 20 generic bytes (which are probably smaller than pointers) 18:46 < zer0python> ah, good point 18:46 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:47 < BleuLlama> is the current podzilla codebase the final product, or is it still more of a proof-of-concept, experimental platform? 18:47 < courtc> in general? 18:47 < zer0python> hmm 18:47 < BleuLlama> in general, yeah 18:47 < zer0python> out of curiousity.. how are you testing this? 18:47 < BleuLlama> (jsut curious what the average feel for 'podzilla' is..) 18:47 < courtc> its a poc.. thats proof-of-concept.. 18:48 < BleuLlama> okey. :) 18:48 < zer0python> putting it on the iPod everytime? 18:48 < zer0python> :\ 18:48 < courtc> no, testing it in x11 18:48 < zer0python> really? :o 18:48 < courtc> yes, really 18:48 < zer0python> perhaps I could help then 18:49 < courtc> feel free.. http://ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop 18:50 * BleuLlama is working on some game/toys for podzilla and has a 4g; all work is on X-windows under OS X 18:50 < Jack_MD> @courtc: rebuilt my podzilla under OS X and now I know how to use it! 18:50 < Jack_MD> ok, now dinner.. cya 18:52 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532247.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:52 < courtc> btw the #if 0'd stuff under the second realloc is the orig code.. I prefer realloc.. besides the free() threw an error at about line 343 18:53 < courtc> so I got about 100 lines further with realloc.. :p 18:55 < zer0python> question 18:55 < zer0python> how many lines are in pz.c ? 18:55 < courtc> ooh.. it went 459 lines this time.. i think its making it to the end and bugging out 18:55 < courtc> less than that.. :) 18:56 < zer0python> why so many lines.. or is it cause it's breaking every n chars? 18:56 < courtc> 332 18:56 < courtc> its breaking for textwrapping 18:57 < zer0python> I see 18:57 < zer0python> wow.. jpegsrc is clean code 18:58 < zer0python> not one warning or error 18:58 < zer0python> of course it's not compiling with -W either so.. :s 18:58 < courtc> you wont find a single warning in podzilla with -Wall 18:59 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EE98F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:59 < courtc> I make sure of that.. :) 18:59 * Mayoral is back (gone 01:06:39) 19:00 < zer0python> :d 19:00 < zer0python> *:D 19:02 < courtc> hmm.. you can catch a sigsegv cant you? 19:02 * BleuLlama usually uses -Wall -pedantic while compiling, and gets his software to build with no warnings. :D 19:03 < zer0python> ...I use -Wall -s -O2 -std=c99 :p 19:08 < zer0python> courtc, you mean using signal or something? 19:10 < zer0python> blargh 19:10 < zer0python> microwindows failed to compile 19:13 < zer0python> on font_freetype.c :s 19:13 < courtc> 1st error? 19:13 < zer0python> hmm.. wonder if it's looking in the right path 19:13 < courtc> ah.. 19:13 < courtc> it shouldnt be looking for fretype 19:13 < zer0python> font_freetype.c:14:31: freetype/freetype.h: No such file or directory 19:14 < zer0python> yeah 19:14 < zer0python> I have my freetype in /usr/include/freetype2/freetype 19:14 < zer0python> easily fixed 19:14 < zer0python> symlink ;) 19:14 < courtc> did you do:cp Configs/config.ipod_x11 config 19:14 < courtc> ? 19:16 < courtc> because there shouldnt be any freetype support... 19:16 < zer0python> yeah.. actually I didn't have a Configs/config.ipod_x11 file 19:17 < courtc> *sigh i think those directions are wrong.. 19:17 < zer0python> but I had a config.x11 19:17 < zer0python> so I used that 19:17 < zer0python> :s 19:18 < courtc> config.x11 it not what you need.. 19:18 < zer0python> blargh 19:18 < zer0python> well how come I don't have a ipod_x11 file :s 19:18 < courtc> you didnt ceck out cvs? 19:19 < zer0python> yes I did 19:19 < courtc> f' me I can't type 19:19 < zer0python> oh 19:19 < zer0python> I didn't do the cp part though 19:19 < courtc> haha 19:20 < zer0python> << feels dumb 19:30 < courtc> hmm.. maybe its the | thats screwing it up.. 19:33 < macPod> oh! a position opened up at the terascale computing center 19:33 < macPod> I might get to work on the supercomputer yet! 19:33 < zer0python> bleh work sucks 19:34 < zer0python> just to let you know! :P 19:34 < courtc> 10-20 hour per week positions, paying $10/hour ... 19:35 < courtc> :p 19:35 < zer0python> heh.. I did a 20-40 hour per week position, paying no where near that :( 19:36 < courtc> I can teach a sport I love more than computers for much more than that.. :p 19:36 < zer0python> o.O 19:37 < zer0python> that sport being 19:37 < zer0python> ? 19:37 < courtc> whitewater kayaking 19:37 < macPod> good offer? 19:37 < macPod> personaly I just want to be able to put it on my resume 19:37 < macPod> that would be a good job getter 19:38 < courtc> well I'm a aca cert whitewater kayaking instructor.. soo.. 19:38 < macPod> more money 19:39 < courtc> but I want to get a job in the computer business 19:41 < courtc> well, hell if you dont get stuck giving people tours, thats nice.. 19:41 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v Thijs ] by Luke 19:53 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95F3152.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:53 < macPod> it's system administration 19:53 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95F3152.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:53 < courtc> do you actually have to live in va? ;) 19:56 < courtc> hmm.. perhaps you cant take the strlen() of the string you're reallocing *while* you're reallocing it.. 19:56 < Luke> hey mac what were you sending me before? 19:56 < courtc> I was worried about that 19:58 < BleuLlama> you should be able to; the '\0' is still at the end of the string. 19:59 < BleuLlama> and it should evaluate that before it does the actual realloc anyway 19:59 < courtc> yea, but I dont know what else it could be.. 20:00 < macPod> courtc I go to virginia tech 20:00 < courtc> I know... I was asking for myself 20:00 < courtc> ;) 20:05 < macPod> hmm, for references... I am in a mac users group and there is a software dev who goes there 20:06 < macPod> would that be a good reference? or would it seem odd? 20:06 < BleuLlama> reference for what? for a job? 20:06 < macPod> yea 20:07 < macPod> I'll put this project too I guess 20:07 < BleuLlama> usually job references are specific people you've worked with, or job-co-workers/superiors... not usually user groups... 20:07 < macPod> dunno 20:07 < macPod> that's what I was thinking 20:07 < courtc> It would seem a little odd.. usually they want previous employers/ community leaders 20:07 < BleuLlama> i have a section on my resume for projects i'm working on or have been associated with... 20:07 < BleuLlama> what courtc said. 20:08 < macPod> educators? 20:08 < macPod> yea 20:09 < macPod> teachers should be fine to reference if they are relative to the work 20:10 < courtc> are you answering your own question? strange... 20:10 < macPod> I'm justifying it so I don't feel bad? :) 20:11 < macPod> yes 20:16 < courtc> dammit, I knew I shoulda rewritten this from scratch.. 20:16 < courtc> It sucks that its not my code thats broken.. 20:17 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 20:17 < BleuLlama> a few years back, while working on a project, we had a co-op student designing and writing this dynamic typing data structure library, and he did a great job on it, but the resulting code was a little buggy 20:17 < fre_ber> Good evening, everybody. 20:17 < BleuLlama> i spent a few hours looking it over, and based on what it did, i decided to re-write it from scratch over the course of two days, rather than try to debug and fix his code... 20:17 < BleuLlama> heh. 20:18 < BleuLlama> he admitted it wasn't the best code ever when i explained what i had done. heh 20:18 < courtc> yea, its so much easier to just do it yourself 20:18 < courtc> I hate looking through other peoples code for bugs.. :p 20:18 < BleuLlama> it's not like his time was wasted... he generated prototypes and experimented with different ways to do it, and designed it all... 20:18 < BleuLlama> agreed, cc 20:22 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95F3152.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:27 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95F3152.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:41 < courtc> ok, it works perfectly if i completely remove the realloc i honestly have no clue why it was there in the first place.. 20:42 -!- TinyIRC [~tinyirc@0-1pool240-1.nas1.milwaukee1.wi.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:42 < TinyIRC> hello 20:42 < courtc> heya 20:42 < TinyIRC> how far are they on Ipod Linux for the 4g pods? 20:43 < courtc> [#### ] 20:44 < TinyIRC> ujmmm... OK? 20:44 < zer0python> wtf 20:44 < zer0python> make check is still running for automake 20:45 < zer0python> tinyirc, that means they're about 4% complete 20:45 < TinyIRC> I'm just so excited about it, I remember reading about it when I had my 3g ipod but that one I bought used and it turned out to be stolen and I had to give it back to the owner and now I got a 4g for christmas 20:46 < courtc> haha.. that sucks.. you bought a stolen ipod... 20:47 < zer0python> uh 20:48 < zer0python> tinyirc, are you aware that means you also were stolen off of? 20:48 < TinyIRC> no, I got my money back 20:48 < TinyIRC> it was at my high school 20:49 < courtc> oh, I thought there was a ipod blackmarket :/ 20:49 < TinyIRC> the thief and the victim were both in my school 20:49 < TinyIRC> and she saw me with her ipod and was like "wtf?" 20:50 < TinyIRC> the thief told me a story how he got it for christmas last year but that he didn't really use it and he'd sell it to me 20:50 < zer0python> tinyirc, ...were ipod 3g's even out christmas of 2003 ? 20:52 < TinyIRC> no, it was 2004's spring 20:52 < zer0python> ..so..then.. 20:52 < TinyIRC> wait... idk, I didn't know when they first came out 20:52 < zer0python> ..light bulb didn't go on? 20:53 < zer0python> heh 20:53 < TinyIRC> but yeah, I bought it without thinking cuz it was an ipod for cheap 20:53 < TinyIRC> $115 for a 15 gig 20:53 < zer0python> I paid $300 for my 20gig :s 20:53 < zer0python> 4g clickwheel :s 20:53 < zer0python> ... 20:54 -!- Sneakeri [~sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ipodlinux 20:54 < zer0python> courtc, ...iTuneslib is being a bitch 20:54 < TinyIRC> I paid $310 for mine with a 3 year warranty 20:54 < courtc> zer0python- os? 20:54 < zer0python> Slackware 9.0 20:54 < TinyIRC> ugh, I want linux but I don't ahve the balls to take the plunge 20:54 < courtc> well its a user fault then ;) 20:54 < BleuLlama> i got mine (4g 20gb) for free. 20:55 < zer0python> courtc, yeah.. probably :p 20:55 < zer0python> automake keeps crapping out on me 20:55 < BleuLlama> (gift from my parents. :D ) 20:55 < zer0python> says run aclocal.. I do that.. than I get even more errors 20:55 < zer0python> :s 20:55 < courtc> I got mine (1g 5gb) for free :) 20:55 < zer0python> courtc, :o 20:56 < courtc> zer0python- go jump off a cliff... 20:56 < zer0python> courtc, that's cool 20:56 < courtc> it was a present.. 20:56 < zer0python> courtc, hmm.. will that get libitunes to install? ;P 20:56 < courtc> no, but i'm demonstrating a point 20:57 < courtc> you did automake -a -f? 20:57 < TinyIRC> zer0python - did you ever try mandrake linux? 20:57 < zer0python> tinyirc, no 20:57 < zer0python> I did redhat/suse at first.. then I moved to Slackware/Gentoo 20:58 < courtc> thats a short migration.. 20:58 < TinyIRC> hmm... That's that one I'm thinking of getting to put on my old win 98 computer and I wanna ask someone who's used it what they think 20:58 < zer0python> courtc, hmm? you think? :p 20:58 < zer0python> courtc, it's better than windows :p 20:59 < TinyIRC> cuz mandrake looks like a good one to easily go from windows to linux to 20:59 < BleuLlama> i need to reinstall my pc. i should probably put linux on it.. heh 20:59 < zer0python> linux isn't all fun and games just to warn you! :p 20:59 < TinyIRC> anyone here use firefox? 20:59 < courtc> its just that most people move around more before they settle on a distro 20:59 < courtc> ++firefox 20:59 < BleuLlama> i used redhat and suse for many years 21:00 < TinyIRC> I made a theme for Firefox 21:00 < zer0python> I had issues w/ sound on my notebook, and as for my desktop I had issues with the modem.. (back before I had cale-internet) 21:00 < BleuLlama> i have an ubuntu install cd here i'll probably be using 21:00 < zer0python> courtc, .. You want all the distro's I've tried :p 21:00 < zer0python> I've tried a few.. but not for very long 21:01 < BleuLlama> ooh. i need to reinstall my old P133 laptop too. that *needs* a network installer though... floppy-or-non-bootable cdrom.. heh 21:01 < BleuLlama> i tried corel's distro for a little while too, but that was really rough 21:01 < BleuLlama> nice installer though 21:01 < zer0python> I have quite a few cd's in my my cd-box w/ linux distro's on it 21:01 < zer0python> + I have FreeBSD in there too 21:01 < BleuLlama> same here 21:01 < BleuLlama> oooh. maybe i should install BeOS... :D 21:02 < courtc> haha.. I've gone from one to another.. and freebsd was by far the worst :p 21:02 < courtc> netbsd, however is quite nice.. 21:02 < zer0python> courtc, haha.. I didn't like freebsd much either.. mainly cause it did shit for what I was trying to do with it 21:03 < TinyIRC> I did use one linux distro once.... it was called umm... i don't remember the name, it ran on a floppy 21:03 < TinyIRC> it was meant for hackers 21:03 < TinyIRC> anyone know the name? 21:03 < courtc> haha.. define hackers 21:04 * BleuLlama is a hacker, but probably not the definition of hacker tinyirc means 21:04 < TinyIRC> people who wanna take a linux disc and view windows files w/o having to login to windows 21:04 < BleuLlama> cracker 21:05 * courtc is a hacker also.. 21:05 < courtc> yes, definiatly a cracker 21:05 < TinyIRC> hacker = hacking for good 21:05 < TinyIRC> cracker = hacking to make things work for you 21:05 < BleuLlama> skewed definition 21:05 < TinyIRC> my definition lol 21:05 < TinyIRC> I cracked two things lol 21:06 < BleuLlama> hacker (traditional definition): one who codes a lot, without much design work... jsut start working on coding... sorta like the current "extreme programming" paradigm 21:06 < courtc> TinyIRC- haha if you can touch a computer password are useless.. 21:06 < BleuLlama> cracker: one who breaks into systems (for good or bad) 21:07 < BleuLlama> midnight snacker: someone who eats munchies around midnight. 21:07 < TinyIRC> my isp, peoplepc makes you use their program to connect to the internet, it sends a special string on authorization, and I couldn't get around that, and when you connect and try to close the software, it has a prompt that says "disconnect or cancel" 21:07 < BleuLlama> plaquer: someone who doesn't brush their teeth 21:07 < courtc> gb packer.. a football player 21:07 < TinyIRC> I went intot the dialer.brt file and removed the code for that prompt window 21:07 < BleuLlama> courtc: or packer: short for 'fudge packer' ;) 21:07 < TinyIRC> that's the extent of my cracking *eyeroll* 21:08 < courtc> yea, i tried to stay away form that... 21:08 < BleuLlama> ever written a war dialer? ;) 21:08 < TinyIRC> I can't write anything lol 21:08 < TinyIRC> I'm worthless 21:08 < courtc> haha.. we arent all ancient BleuLlama 21:08 < BleuLlama> heheh 21:08 < TinyIRC> all I know is html, some css, and some weak javascript syntax 21:08 < TinyIRC> I suck 21:08 < BleuLlama> all you kids and your loud music! 21:09 < TinyIRC> oh, and I did crack photoshop 21:09 * BleuLlama once wrote a war dialer in Amiga Basic. heh. that's either 1337 or pathetic... i'm not sure which 21:09 < courtc> theres a fine line.. 21:09 < TinyIRC> used ultra edit, changed the asm command to jump instead of prompt for a password after the trial was over 21:10 -!- Sneaker [sneaker@a80-186-118-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:10 < zer0python> ... 21:10 < zer0python> 17:09 < BleuLlama> all you kids and your loud music! 21:10 < zer0python> ..perhaps you should think about the channel your in.. :s 21:10 < courtc> hes like 86 or so.. 21:10 < TinyIRC> me... 21:11 < roowie> TinyIRC: i did that too 21:11 < TinyIRC> ic 21:11 < TinyIRC> I wish I could be a cracker/hacker 21:11 < TinyIRC> I just don't have the skills 21:11 < roowie> nobody wants to be a cracker! 21:12 < courtc> you damn cheap kids.. get gimp, its better anywho.. 21:12 < zer0python> ... 21:12 < roowie> courtc: no, gimp cant handle either text or cmyk 21:12 < TinyIRC> I read abouy gimp, but it seemed lacking compared to photoshop 21:12 < courtc> are you high? 21:13 < Luke> lmao courtc 21:14 < zer0python> :.. 21:14 < TinyIRC> I second the "..." 21:15 < roowie> TinyIRC: why kill your time here, learn C/C++ :) 21:15 < TinyIRC> I just downloaded the tutorials a few days ago and a compiler but I became baffled... I could learn the syntax easy enough but I don't know how to apply it 21:16 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/ruhi.png 21:17 < roowie> courtc: try to add a shadow behind the text. 21:17 < courtc> .. OK 21:17 < zer0python> well 21:17 < zer0python> now learning to use podzilla 21:18 < zer0python> podzilla segfaults on a middle click :s 21:19 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/urhi.png 21:19 < courtc> roowie- learn before you fucking bash.. 21:19 < dbomb> what is the latest beta of podzilla? I have 0.2 beta 21:19 < roowie> courtc: sweet 21:19 < courtc> 0.2 is the lates beta.. 21:20 < roowie> courtc: i never said that it was impossible? 21:20 < dbomb> ok, thanks 21:20 < courtc> courtc: no, gimp cant handle either text or cmyk 21:20 < roowie> handle text is not to write a text 21:20 < zer0python> r and l.. 21:20 < zer0python> that's..weird 21:20 < zer0python> well 21:20 < zer0python> left right.. I guess :s 21:21 < Thijs> srry ppl.. after many hours of saying nothing i have to go 21:21 < TinyIRC> I wish I had broadband, I'd download the 3 mandrake iso's right now 21:21 < courtc> roowie- so you think it still cant handle text? 21:21 < courtc> bye Thijs 21:21 < TinyIRC> no Thijs, how will I go on w/o you? 21:21 < roowie> courtc: what do you mean with handle? 21:21 < Thijs> iam very busy at the moment with my study 21:22 < Thijs> go on holiday next week 21:22 < Thijs> after then, ill become more active on #ipodlinux 21:22 < TinyIRC> ic 21:22 < courtc> I dunno, what is your definition of 'handling text' ? 21:22 < Thijs> but for the day... goodbye ! 21:22 < Thijs> today 21:23 < Thijs> zya 21:23 -!- Thijs [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 21:23 < TinyIRC> what is the extent of the ipod's handling of html? 21:23 < roowie> like change drawtechnic (sharp/smooth) 21:23 < TinyIRC> I downloaded the css guide and I noticed they used anchor links 21:24 < courtc> TinyIRC- whay why why... what? 21:24 < BleuLlama> tiny: it doesn't. 21:24 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I *really* love core dumps..."] 21:24 < TinyIRC> I download the Style Master Complete Css Guide for the ipod and put it in the notes folder 21:24 < TinyIRC> and when I view it on my ipod, it has anchored links that got to certain sections of the text 21:25 < courtc> roowie- when was the last time you actually used gimp? 1980? 21:25 < roowie> courtc: 2003 21:25 < TinyIRC> I opened them up and they used the "a href=" code and put anchors in 21:25 < roowie> :) 21:25 < BleuLlama> tiny: it uses a very simple XML format that is very similar to HTML. 21:25 < TinyIRC> ic 21:26 < BleuLlama> but pages are limited to 4k (?) and only 1000 pages, max, i believe 21:26 < TinyIRC> so what's the extent of it's XML capabilities? 21:26 < BleuLlama> there's an apple doc about the 'ipod notes' format 21:26 < BleuLlama> that explains everything you need to know about it 21:26 < TinyIRC> ic 21:26 < courtc> for opensource 2 years is actually pretty old.. 2.2 is just out.. Its much nicer than any version of photoshop I've used.. 21:27 < BleuLlama> courtc: apples and oranges. some people like photoshop's interface, some people like gimp's interface 21:27 < roowie> courtc: is cmyk supported :O ? 21:27 < BleuLlama> i personally like photoshop's 21:27 < TinyIRC> I have photoshop cs, and I can't even use its advanced features or techniques 21:27 < courtc> roowie- look in that first pic i posted blindie 21:28 < roowie> courtc: yeah, i really scanned every pixle 21:28 < roowie> *el 21:28 < BleuLlama> i thought that gimp was still RGB only... sure you can adjust pixels by CMYK. but the internal representation of the image is still RGB 21:28 < courtc> you people.. the interfaces are almost identical.. 21:29 < TinyIRC> I'm actually most comfortable with Macromedia Fireworks 21:29 < TinyIRC> anyone tried that? 21:29 < courtc> and you guys are blind also 21:29 < BleuLlama> ? 21:29 < roowie> courtc: can't you tell us instead showing your pictures 21:29 < courtc> I guess you missd the screen that said C Y M K 21:30 < BleuLlama> i see CMYK sliders, but the image header still says "RGB" 21:30 < BleuLlama> er. edit window says "RGB" 21:30 < roowie> can't find cmyk support either 21:31 < BleuLlama> i found a plugin that makes CMYK separations... 21:31 < courtc> oh, w/e I'm going back to coding 21:32 < BleuLlama> okay then. so be it. 21:32 < courtc> gimp is free :p 21:32 < roowie> so.. no cmyk? 21:32 < TinyIRC> You guys have given me a genius idea.... 21:33 < TinyIRC> one that I'll prolly never follow through with or even attempt 21:33 < TinyIRC> I could make an ipod theme for firefox 21:33 < zer0python> ..that being? 21:33 < zer0python> ... 21:33 < roowie> haha 21:33 < zer0python> that's just obsession 21:33 < BleuLlama> roowie: looks like it can import and export CMYK, but stores it internally as RGB... so... no, not really... not in a way that is useful for print media professionals... 21:33 < TinyIRC> yeah.. it is an obsession 21:34 < zer0python> oh 21:34 < zer0python> in that case 21:34 -!- cmf_ [~lou@adsl-213-249-162-22.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:34 < zer0python> carry on 21:34 < TinyIRC> on ipodlounge.com forums I suggested a day where all ipod users user their ipods with their non-dominant hand and they told me to get a life 21:34 < courtc> please dont, every ipod theme i've seen was horrible... 21:35 < TinyIRC> I didn't even know that tey make ipod themes for apps... 21:35 < TinyIRC> lol 21:36 < zer0python> ~ever been to www.apple.com/ipod .. I consider than an ipod theme 21:36 < TinyIRC> I could base it off the 3g, have the forward and backward buttons be just like the ones on the ipod with and orange glow and stuff 21:36 < zer0python> ;p 21:36 < TinyIRC> lol 21:36 < courtc> they do, its just that none are good... 21:39 < TinyIRC> ... 21:40 < TinyIRC> anyone know where to find news on the 5g ipod? 21:41 < TinyIRC> I heard that apple is pattenting technology that allows an ipod to detect it's falling and stop the hard drive from moving to save it in the event of a drop/impact 21:42 < dbomb> TinyIRC: I read something on thinksercet a little bit ago 21:42 < dbomb> let me find a url 21:42 < courtc> photo==5g :/ 21:42 < courtc> you must be talking about a 6g :p 21:43 < TinyIRC> yeah, that 21:43 < TinyIRC> lol 21:43 < dbomb> courtc: photo is just photo, no? 21:43 < dbomb> http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0501briefly2.html 21:43 < TinyIRC> holy crap! my theme got 35396 downloads!!! last time I check it was at like 19000 21:43 < TinyIRC> gracias 21:43 < dbomb> np 21:44 < TinyIRC> that's what I thought dbomb, I thought photo was just photo 21:44 < courtc> but the hardware/firmware disagrees 21:45 < courtc> they say rev 50001 iirc 21:45 < BleuLlama> i don't like the color screen on the photo.. the font antialiasing makes it all look blurry 21:46 < TinyIRC> well, at least it's a start 21:46 < TinyIRC> apple's making the ipod into a multimedia device 21:46 < TinyIRC> video would be nice 21:46 < BleuLlama> no. i think the photo is as far as it's going to go 21:46 < TinyIRC> aw 21:46 < BleuLlama> they won't put video on it, at least for many years 21:46 < courtc> I hope so.. 21:47 < TinyIRC> what ever happened to the rumors of the hidden features in the 4th gen ipod? 21:47 < TinyIRC> I know one site, I think it was ipodlounge, pretty much dissolved it 21:47 < TinyIRC> but it always inspires that small hope 21:47 < BleuLlama> the rumors still exist. they're rumors. ? what kind of question is that? 21:48 < TinyIRC> I just mean, that they pretty much died down 21:48 < dbomb> what were the rumors? 21:49 < TinyIRC> I'll find a link 21:49 < courtc> look a family of bunnies live in my ipod! wow what a hidden feature.. :p 21:49 -!- Shados [~asd@ool-44c15874.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:49 < TinyIRC> they were like, wireless capabilities, colorscreen, 21:49 < dbomb> k 21:49 < dbomb> I somehow doubt that 21:49 < TinyIRC> two other things I think 21:49 < dbomb> but, eh 21:49 < BleuLlama> well, i can unplug mine and have it still play music (wireless) and the screen is slightly blue tinted (color screen). next? 21:50 < TinyIRC> well, like they said since the screen displays blue and black it can display green and red or something 21:50 < BleuLlama> hahah 21:50 < BleuLlama> no 21:50 < BleuLlama> the screen has a blue tinge. that's all there is. 21:50 < courtc> the rumors stop here... 21:50 < BleuLlama> i wish apple would release an ipod with the old gameboy "pea-green" LCD. 21:50 < BleuLlama> hehe 21:51 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 21:51 < courtc> why would apple hide features on the ipods? 21:52 < TinyIRC> http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=4603_0_8_0_M 21:52 < TinyIRC> they said that they could be unleashed later to spring on the competition 21:52 < BleuLlama> they "hid" voice recording for a while, but that's only beacuse there were no widgets that used it yet. (same with photo transfer) 21:52 < BleuLlama> tiny: it's bs. 21:53 < BleuLlama> tiny: did you even read that page all the way through? 21:53 < TinyIRC> nope 21:53 < TinyIRC> lol 21:54 < TinyIRC> there was a thing on ipodhacks that I read that stated the rumors 21:54 < BleuLlama> the first part says "these are the rumors" the second part says "this is why the rumors are bullshit" 21:54 < courtc> spring it on the competition? what competition? I mean really .. 21:54 < BleuLlama> tiny: seriously; learn to read. 21:55 < TinyIRC> I know, but I still ahve that constant hope that they're wrong and someone finds a hack to make my screen green instead of blue 21:55 < TinyIRC> lol 21:55 < BleuLlama> huzzah! congratulations. you have made my /ignore list! 21:56 < courtc> no kidding... 21:56 < TinyIRC> wow, not bad for my first time on this channel 21:56 < BleuLlama> *** Ignoring ALL messages from TINYIRC 21:56 < TinyIRC> heheh 21:56 < TinyIRC> next I'll get booted or something 22:03 -!- Grunt [~grunt@grunt.wikipedia] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 * Grunt pokes his nose in. 22:03 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:03 < courtc> hello 22:03 < Grunt> Hi. :) 22:03 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < TinyIRC> hello 22:04 -!- TinyIRC [~tinyirc@0-1pool240-1.nas1.milwaukee1.wi.us.da.qwest.net] has quit ["(You guys bore me... and ignore me... that rhymed)"] 22:05 < courtc> aw, BleuLlama just wanted to get off the big bad dev list... 22:05 < BleuLlama> wha? 22:05 < courtc> +v no more ... 22:05 * BleuLlama accidently typed /list instead of /who and just decided to restart instead of self-flood. heh 22:05 < Grunt> . 22:06 < BleuLlama> oh. i didn't realize i was +v. oh well. 22:06 < BleuLlama> whatever. heh. 22:07 < courtc> yea, It an ego boost thing I guess.. 22:07 < courtc> who knows 22:07 < Grunt> it also lets you talk when the channel is +m. :) 22:07 < courtc> which happens never.. 22:07 < Grunt> Not here, but it does happen elsewhere :) 22:08 < courtc> yes, but +v here doesnt help elsewhere 22:08 < Grunt> True. :) 22:09 < courtc> *sigh... I'll just get back to debugging some elses code.. 22:10 < Grunt> what kind of code is it? 22:10 < Grunt> and is it well written?:) 22:10 < Grunt> I guess not, or you wouldn't be debugging it:) 22:10 < courtc> its.. well, written.. ;) 22:11 < courtc> Its the textviewer in podzilla 22:11 < Grunt> ah:) 22:11 < Shados> debugging is taboo, It's far better to just keep writing code till you negate the broken code written about it 22:11 * Grunt smirks 22:11 < Shados> above^ 22:11 < Grunt> Shados, we're not all blessed with that ability :) 22:12 < Grunt> courtc, I would help, but I don't yet have anything on which I could test it:) 22:12 * Grunt strongly suspects that he will soon, however 22:12 < BleuLlama> blah blah build for your desktop blah blah read the wiki blah blah blah 22:12 < courtc> hahahaha.. 22:14 < courtc> I have a feeling Grunt knows a little about wikis :/ 22:16 < Grunt> I do. 22:16 < Grunt> I work on Wikipedia. I also know quite a few of the mediawiki folks. :) 22:16 -!- tucanoj [~tucanoj@108.120.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:17 < courtc> [Grunt] #ipodlinux ##linux @#arbcom.wikipedia #openttd #mediawiki #enrc.wikipedia #fr.wikimedia #wikimedia #fr.wikipedia #de.wikipedia #en.wikipedia #wikipedia 22:17 < courtc> yea 22:17 < BleuLlama> lol 22:17 < Luke> haha 22:18 < Grunt> that's just on freenode.:) 22:18 < Shados> chuckle 22:18 < Grunt> no, I do not actively chat on all of those channels:) 22:19 < Luke> right now i'm using dvorak keyboard layout 22:19 < Grunt> fun :) 22:19 < Luke> i'm typing so slow 22:19 < Luke> aahhh 22:20 < Luke> its frustrating 22:20 < courtc> yea, its wickedly slow at first... I felt like a toddler 22:21 < zer0python> bleh dvorak.. tried that once.. I sucked at it 22:21 * Grunt seriously doubts he could train himself to use anything but qwerty atm 22:21 < Grunt> Not that I'd need to change my layout 22:21 < Grunt> I type wicked fast anyways ;) 22:22 < BleuLlama> with just a few days, i was typing faster with dvorak that i was with qwerty when i tried it, but i couldn't use it everywhere, which basically was the reason i switched back. 22:22 < Luke> haha but once you start to get the hang of it, it's not that bad. 22:22 < Luke> hahaha 22:23 < Luke> damn i'm getting good now 22:23 < Luke> holy crap 22:23 < Luke> haha just kidding i switched back already =) 22:23 < Grunt> I probably could type faster on a different keyboard layout, 22:23 < Grunt> but 22:23 < Luke> bound f9 and f10 to switch 22:23 < Grunt> the speed benefits above 150wpm are negligible at best 22:23 < Grunt> ;) 22:24 < courtc> 150wpm.. try 150ppm 22:24 < zer0python> hmm, I never counted how many wpm's I can do :s 22:24 < zer0python> 150 pages per minute? 22:24 < Grunt> Well, the 150wpm was from a typing test I took once 22:24 < Grunt> 150ppm is ridiculous.:) 22:24 < courtc> presses 22:24 < courtc> haha 22:24 < Grunt> 150 pages per minute. 2.5pages/second!:) 22:25 < Grunt> Not even a robot could type that fast:) 22:25 < zer0python> grunt, lol.. I'd never want to take up a typing challenge with that. 22:25 < Luke> it's just fun to play with 22:26 < Luke> oh geez i'm getting so far behind 22:26 < courtc> Luke- fix that feature page so we can sign up.. 22:26 < Luke> ?? 22:26 < Luke> what feature? 22:26 < courtc> hold up.. 22:27 < courtc> to the TWO cave! 22:27 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:27 < Luke> courtc: you talking about the web app that vet put up? 22:27 < courtc> yea.. 22:27 < Luke> aah 22:27 < Luke> well me put it this way 22:28 < Luke> its vets project... you can tell cause it doesnt work 22:28 < Luke> hahaha 22:28 < BleuLlama> ZING! 22:28 < Luke> lmao 22:28 < BleuLlama> no. that's "llama" 22:28 < BleuLlama> close. 22:28 < courtc> rofl 22:29 < Luke> haha but no - i havent even looked at it yet so i dont even know how its *supposed* to work... let alone fix it 22:29 < BleuLlama> courtc: your fingers were off by one. you meant "stfu" 22:29 < Luke> haha 22:29 < Grunt> Haha. 22:29 < Luke> well guys i'm going to Purdue Linux club!!! 22:29 < Luke> i'll be on irc tho 22:29 < Grunt> Have fun!:) 22:29 < Luke> but no internet on the bus so i'l lhave to leave for a bit =) 22:30 < courtc> fix that damn page Luke.. 22:30 < courtc> :D 22:30 < Luke> hhaha court whats wrong with it? 22:30 < courtc> we cant register 22:30 < Luke> well listen - i dont wanna overwrite anything vet might be working on. for me to fix it - i'd wanna start with a fresh install 22:30 < courtc> the sendmail setup is f'ed 22:31 < Luke> i'll look at it tonight for ya =) 22:31 < courtc> .. meanwhile I'll just yell at vet 22:31 < Luke> haha ok =) 22:31 < courtc> :D 22:31 < Luke> make sure he knows how much smarter i am than him too =P 22:33 < Grunt> cough 22:33 < courtc> Wammy- call vet and tell him to get on irc, tell him its an ipodlimergency 22:33 < Grunt> I apologise for using non-metric units ;p 22:34 * Grunt is ~1m from his bed, in any case ;p 22:34 < Grunt> um 22:34 < Grunt> wrong channel. 22:34 < Luke> hehe 22:34 < courtc> yea, I was hoping... 22:34 < Grunt> (now we see the inherent disadvantage of being on 10 channels) 22:34 < courtc> haha 22:35 < Grunt> oh, hush:) 22:39 -!- Grunt is now known as GruntWillBBL 22:58 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:58 -!- mgla [~mgla@mgla.wikipedia] has quit ["linked /dev/brain to /dev/null"] 22:59 -!- zsk009 [~zsk009@pcp0011204111pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:16 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:16 -!- Shados [~asd@ool-44c15874.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:19 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:21 < courtc> hey davidc__ 23:22 < davidc__> hey courtc 23:23 < courtc> dude.. I hate your text parsing routines in the textviewer... 23:24 < courtc> wtf is this: 23:24 < courtc> temp = localAr[currentLine]; 23:24 < courtc> localAr[currentLine] = malloc(strlen(temp)+1); 23:24 < courtc> strcpy(localAr[currentLine], temp); 23:24 < courtc> free(temp); 23:24 < courtc> broken.. thats what :p 23:24 < davidc__> heheh 23:25 < davidc__> I know 23:25 < davidc__> I said its horrible horible hacks 23:25 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-209-214.tbaytel.net] has quit ["..:.."] 23:25 < davidc__> basically, I didn't know about realloc when I wrote that bit 23:25 < davidc__> it is hideous, I know 23:25 < courtc> i tried fixing it wih a realloc.. but its still breaks. :/ 23:25 < davidc__> hmm? 23:25 < davidc__> I breaks? 23:25 < davidc__> it seems to work 23:25 < davidc__> okay-ish 23:26 < davidc__> remember, we changed the kernel allocator 23:26 < davidc__> that could be breakign it 23:26 < courtc> well it doesnt seem to like .c files 23:26 < davidc__> hmm 23:26 < davidc__> strange' 23:26 < davidc__> it likes txt fine 23:27 < courtc> yea, 4k txt files go fine, but the same size .c files break on that free.. 23:27 < courtc> http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/textview.c is my revised version.. 23:34 < davidc__> heh, I'm not suprised 23:34 < davidc__> the code was extremely crufty to start with 23:34 < davidc__> you know how irritating it is to write a word wrap algorithm? 23:39 < macPod> heh 23:42 -!- GruntWillBBL is now known as Grunt 23:48 < courtc> yea, textwrapping sucks.. :p thats why I'm trying to get other people to debug it.. :) 23:48 < davidc__> hehe, maybe I'll take a look/rewrite it 23:49 < davidc__> as it disclaims at the beginning of the code, its majorly fugly 23:50 < macPod> who made the avatar thing for ipodlinux.org 23:50 < macPod> it's fubar on my browser (safari) 23:50 -!- piratePenguin [~piratepen@dialup0770.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:51 < courtc> most of my changes are 80col and c++->c commenting.. But i also added is_ascii_file 23:52 < courtc> macPod- yea, apparently osx doesnt like it.. coob sent me another one, but i've yet to look at it.. 23:56 < courtc> oh and I also added new_stringview_window() for buffer viewing; and added a window destruction/error function.. ... lemme know if you decide to rewrite it, and save me the trouble ;) 23:58 < courtc> macPod- if you're just looking for someone to blame, it was me.. 23:59 < macPod> nah, just pondered if people knew, so I decided to ask for the source 23:59 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 23:59 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-96.tga.wave.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Sat Jan 22 00:00:00 2005