--- Log opened Sat Jan 15 00:00:02 2005 00:01 < rsbeq-cam> Yeah, I love storing my clothes in mac people 00:01 < rsbeq-cam> They're just so suitable 00:05 < rsbeq-cam> That's probably not going to make sense at the top of a log file 00:05 -!- Circa2k [circa@pcp174722pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:06 -!- Circa2k [circa@pcp174722pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:12 -!- rsbeq-cam [~doom@pool-151-200-13-247.res.east.verizon.net] has quit ["byow"] 00:13 -!- mogorman [~mogorman@216.207.244.182] has left #ipodlinux [] 00:20 -!- _JeffG [~Jeff@24-25-208-245.san.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:38 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-121-205.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 00:48 -!- danalien [~danalien@h211n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:56 -!- danalien [~danalien@h211n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 01:03 -!- Jonas_NZ-on-Hol [~On-Vacati@cpe-069-133-009-160.cinci.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:05 -!- Wammy|2k [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:07 -!- Jonas_NZ-on-Hol [~On-Vacati@cpe-069-133-009-160.cinci.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v courtc ] by courtc 01:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by courtc 01:15 * fre_ber is sleeping again... (After lurking for several hours) 01:16 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 01:20 < courtc> coob: http://so2.sys-techs.com/ipod/tux.ico 01:20 < courtc> or any other mac user.. 01:21 -!- Jonas_NZ-on-Hol [~On-Vacati@cpe-069-133-009-160.cinci.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:21 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-121-205.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:28 < coob> eh that's even more messed up:, 01:30 < courtc> :/ 01:33 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 01:45 < cohmapapphome> has anyone seen this error when building podzilla for the desktop? 01:45 < cohmapapphome> In function `GdDecodeImage': 01:45 < cohmapapphome> /home/jtokash/ipodlinux/desktop/microwindows-0.90/src/engine/devimage.c:850: undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error' 01:46 < cohmapapphome> It's followed by a bunch more... all about jpeg stuff 01:46 < cohmapapphome> microwindows and jpeg-6b both build without errors, this error happens while 'make'ing podzilla 01:49 -!- ryanlrussell [~Default@inside-rtr.bigfix.com] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 01:51 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:01 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:19 -!- kylemarple [~kylemarpl@dormfirewall.cameron.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 02:20 < kylemarple> I saw a link to this project, was stoked because I love linux, then crushed because it doesn't have 4g support. I have a 4g ipod and I'm a computer science major. Anything I can do to help? 02:21 < kylemarple> I don't have any kernel programming knowledge, but I can learn most stuff fairly quick, and I've got OCD, so I put in long hours for free 02:32 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:33 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@61.1.188.174] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < EvilDude> hey people 02:34 < cohmapapphome> Hi Evil 02:34 < cohmapapphome> has anyone seen this error when building podzilla for the desktop? 02:34 < cohmapapphome> In function `GdDecodeImage': 02:34 < cohmapapphome> - /home/jtokash/ipodlinux/desktop/microwindows-0.90/src/engine/devimage.c:850: undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error' 02:34 < EvilDude> do you have the jpeg libraries build for desktop? 02:35 < cohmapapphome> yep, I think so. the jpeg stuff builds and so does the microwindows stuff 02:35 < cohmapapphome> 1 set in the desktop directory and the other in the ipod directory 02:36 < EvilDude> i have no idea then =\ 02:36 < EvilDude> do you have a few minutes cohmapapp? 02:36 < cohmapapphome> yes, I do. What's up? 02:36 < EvilDude> I need someone to build podzilla for iPod from my sources 02:36 < cohmapapphome> will do 02:36 < cohmapapphome> I have a g4 02:36 < cohmapapphome> btw 02:36 < cohmapapphome> so I can send you the binary 02:36 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:36 < cohmapapphome> but I can't install it 02:36 < EvilDude> ah well thats annoying =( 02:37 < EvilDude> I dont have my iPod connected / cant here :( 02:37 < cohmapapphome> bummer 02:37 < EvilDude> I wish I was home 02:38 < EvilDude> anyone else alive that can help me!? :p 02:38 < kylemarple> How can I get involved in this project? I'm a decent programmer in college, and I have a 4G iPod 02:38 < EvilDude> build the dev env for desktop and have fun making stuff? and wait till the 4G port is complete? 02:39 < kylemarple> I mean helping with the 4G port 02:39 < EvilDude> im not sure then, unless you know how to reverse engineer stuff 02:39 < kylemarple> I could give it a shot. I'm McGuyver when I'm bored, and I have a lot of free time to learn 02:40 < EvilDude> im no good at low level myself, but I think you'd need a fair bit of experience to be able to do much 02:40 < kylemarple> tell me what programming language to learn and I can do it 02:41 < BleuLlama> Intercal 02:41 < BleuLlama> ;) 02:41 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:41 < kylemarple> Intercal? Never heard of it, but why not? 02:41 < EvilDude> i've never even heard of that language =\ 02:41 < BleuLlama> heh. it's a language made by some people in the early 70s to embody everything that is bad with all of the languages of the day... 02:42 < BleuLlama> then in the mid 90s or so, someone actually made an intercal interpreter. 02:42 < kylemarple> but is it the ipod language? I'm intrested in helping with the project 02:42 < BleuLlama> the only output that the program gives is roman numerals. hehehe 02:42 < EvilDude> lol then its sorta useless 02:42 < BleuLlama> no... not ipod. i'm just being a wise ass 02:42 < kylemarple> ah 02:43 < EvilDude> and to those who didnt read the blog.. Linux boots on 4g :D :D 02:43 < BleuLlama> intercal has conditional comefrom's... (like a goto, but backwards) 02:43 < BleuLlama> http://bears.ece.ucsb.edu/personnel/astornet/humor/humor45.html 02:43 < BleuLlama> heheh 02:44 < EvilDude> thats WAY too long to be non serious 02:44 < cohmapapphome> can someone send me their ipodlinux directory? I'm really stuck trying to get it to build. One with the ipod tree and the desktop tree for pc linux would be great. :-) 02:45 < EvilDude> thatd be kinda large :p 02:45 < cohmapapphome> The ipod side builds, but the desktop side does not 02:45 < EvilDude> courtc are you alive? 02:45 < cohmapapphome> 63 MB not compressed... not too bad 02:46 < EvilDude> i think i got it to around 20mb compressed (just the iPod build) 02:46 < kylemarple> allright! it boots on 4G. What comes next 02:46 < kylemarple> ? 02:46 < EvilDude> porting each hw device? 02:47 < kylemarple> That sounds like something I could do, if its straight code and no reverse engineering 02:48 < EvilDude> i mean figuring out the address and writing drivers i think 02:48 < kylemarple> Ah. I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to hardware, but I can write killer code 02:49 < EvilDude> yeah im a noob in hw too :( 02:49 < EvilDude> but i have a 3g :D 02:49 < EvilDude> although i'd like to help in making the damn second cpu work 02:49 < kylemarple> Trade ya 02:49 < kylemarple> lol 02:49 < EvilDude> lol i wouldnt mind :P 02:49 < kylemarple> I would. The click wheel will be awesome when the whole shebang works 02:50 < kylemarple> I wonder if we'll ever get a decent ipod OS. It looks like the photo could support one 02:50 < BleuLlama> Evil: remember, that was written in the days before nintendo and even pong... they had *lots* of free time. ;) 02:50 < BleuLlama> (delayed response. sorry) 02:50 < roowie> a program that makes the click wheel to a DJ-scratch would be nice :) 02:51 < BleuLlama> i was thinking that too, roow. 02:51 < EvilDude> ah that makes sense 02:51 < EvilDude> hell yeah 02:51 < EvilDude> Pitch changing etc on the wheel is best use for it :D 02:51 < EvilDude> Apple even commented to a proj dj they MIGHT think about it in other words no but its a good idea :D 02:51 < kylemarple> I need a case for mine :p Its getting all banged up 02:52 < EvilDude> im playing with diag mode on iPod atm 02:52 < EvilDude> its got lots of funny addresses 02:52 < EvilDude> maybe those addresses can help in the 4G port? 02:52 < BleuLlama> evil: if you go into contraast, and hit "play" on one of the contrast screens, you can adjust backlight brightness.. :) 02:52 < EvilDude> (using 4G's diag mode of course) 02:53 < BleuLlama> 0..255, but most of the brightness happens between like 0 and 50 02:53 < BleuLlama> (it seems logarithmic) 02:53 < EvilDude> hehe cool 02:53 < kylemarple> Is it just me, or is the iPod the perfect machine. Like a little palm sized computer with killer storage 02:54 < EvilDude> exact;y, and the photo is even better 02:54 < EvilDude> my dream is to be able to like have a photo which is like my multimedia center 02:54 < kylemarple> would kill for a photo. I just have a 20g 02:54 < EvilDude> plug into tv and watch movies etc 02:54 < EvilDude> and visualizations!!! 02:54 < EvilDude> i want those too 02:54 < kylemarple> if it goes that far, I WILL buy a photo 02:55 < EvilDude> i reckon with the next gen photo, better processor might be able to do it ;) 02:55 < BleuLlama> i'll write vis plugins for the thing. :D 02:55 < EvilDude> this photo is probaby too slow to do much 02:55 < EvilDude> hehehe 02:55 < kylemarple> I wonder why Mac doesn't realize the potential of this thing? They could do exactly what we're doing, but charge a grand for the ipod instead of giving the OS out free 02:55 < EvilDude> that'd be damn awesome i reckon 02:56 < roowie> and where is the GPU :/ 02:56 < EvilDude> Because there's not enough interest in the tech side 02:56 < EvilDude> iPod is so simple 02:56 < EvilDude> yet also so powerful on the inside :D 02:56 < EvilDude> roowie: dont spoil our dreams!!! thats why i said next gen :d 02:56 < roowie> :D 02:56 < kylemarple> they could sell an ipod photo 40g with a modified os X OS and kill the PC market in 2 years 02:56 < EvilDude> haha 02:56 < roowie> yes, a build-in ATI Radeon 9800 02:56 < EvilDude> exactly! 02:57 < EvilDude> now you're thinking :p 02:57 < kylemarple> well, not game wise, but you get the idea 02:57 < EvilDude> screw ms's media centers 02:57 < EvilDude> get one that fits in your pocket ;) 02:57 < kylemarple> if cell phones can play counterstrike, imagine what an iPod could do? 02:57 < roowie> :D 02:57 < BleuLlama> i'd love it if it had a 320x240 color display... SCUMMVM on iPod would be awesome 02:57 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 02:58 < EvilDude> Whats the res on the ipod photo? 02:58 * BleuLlama should just buy an GP32 02:58 < kylemarple> actually, I heard the 40g 4G can display at least blue text, unbacklit 02:58 < BleuLlama> same as the regular ipod, 160x128? 02:58 < BleuLlama> it just looks blue at low brightnesses. 02:58 < kylemarple> ah 02:58 < EvilDude> No it isnt 02:58 < EvilDude> I think its higher 02:59 < EvilDude> i read somewhere at least 02:59 < BleuLlama> i was just looking at something earlier that had it at the same res, which i didn't think was right... 02:59 < EvilDude> and from when i used it..... it HAS to be higher :p 02:59 < BleuLlama> you can give the impression of higher res with more color definition, sometimes 02:59 < EvilDude> The iPod Photo, equipped with its 2-inch 64k-color LCD (220 x 176 resolution) with 02:59 < kylemarple> If we get a colored linux on photo, I'm buying one 03:00 < BleuLlama> there we go 03:00 < EvilDude> So better 03:00 < EvilDude> and anyway 03:00 < EvilDude> the tv screen output blows everything 03:01 < EvilDude> maybe the next gen will have 320 x 240 =D 03:01 < EvilDude> (seriously wish I could make my own lol) 03:01 < BleuLlama> we can hope. :) 03:01 < EvilDude> until the next get comes out and we then start hoping for the even more next gen :D 03:02 < EvilDude> hey bleullama, for the desktop build of podzilla, when you select a song to play, what happens 03:02 < EvilDude> eg - does it show what song is playing? 03:02 < BleuLlama> what we currently have at any time will never be good enough. ;) 03:02 < EvilDude> Agreed. 03:02 < BleuLlama> for me? nothing. I'm on OS X, and i don't have sound support on it... so i can't say. :( 03:02 < kylemarple> lol 03:03 < kylemarple> I'm on OS X right now 03:03 < EvilDude> I know it wont make any sound 03:03 < kylemarple> I LOVE Macs 03:03 < EvilDude> but will it at least show the song title etc? 03:03 < EvilDude> on the screen 03:03 < BleuLlama> to be honest, i haven't tried. heh. 03:03 < EvilDude> lol can you try pleeese :P i really want to see if my code works 03:03 < EvilDude> if it shows the title, you can test my code for me :D :D 03:04 < EvilDude> (and you can tell me about the billions of errors that it causes seeing i have no compiler here except vc++ which is useless =\) 03:04 < BleuLlama> well, my database stuff doesn't work., but i'm trying with the file browser 03:04 < EvilDude> oh damn 03:04 < EvilDude> whats wrong with the database 03:04 < EvilDude> if that dun work then my code wont work :p 03:05 < kylemarple> evil, you don't run linux or unix? 03:05 < BleuLlama> when played from the file browser, it just brings up a little window [ filename.mp3 ] 03:05 < EvilDude> at home i run xp with cygwin to make for iPod, but am planning as soon as i get home to install linux 03:05 < BleuLlama> Cant open: No such file or directory 03:05 < BleuLlama> Reading of db failed. 03:05 < EvilDude> atm im on a shit box at grandparents 03:06 < kylemarple> ah 03:06 < EvilDude> hmm.....copy your iTunesDB to /iPod_Control/iTunesDB :P? 03:06 < kylemarple> I should install linux on my grandmother's pc and tell her I upgraded windows... 03:06 < EvilDude> does osx have / or does it have something stupid like c: 03:06 < EvilDude> haha 03:06 < EvilDude> i dun get home for another 10 days, on holidays in another country see :( 03:06 < EvilDude> and i really dont wanna wait that long :p 03:06 < kylemarple> get dgjpp 03:07 < kylemarple> or djgpp one 03:07 < EvilDude> 56k 03:07 < EvilDude> too hard to dl stuff 03:07 < kylemarple> its one or the other, but its a command line compiler for windows 03:07 < kylemarple> very small 03:07 < EvilDude> ah cool 03:07 < EvilDude> will it work with the crazy podzilla code though 03:07 < BleuLlama> i'll copy it into / 03:07 < kylemarple> its like gcc, but actually uses 'gcc' to compile instead of 'g++' 03:07 < EvilDude> thanks bleullama 03:07 < BleuLlama> gimme a few though; i'm answering tech questions for my dad. 03:07 < EvilDude> hmm ok 03:07 -!- bogeyman [~os_proxy@24-165-22-162.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:07 < EvilDude> lol ok 03:07 < kylemarple> if its c++ 03:08 < BleuLlama> he's buying a powerbook and airport, and has questions about them. heh 03:08 < EvilDude> lol lucky him 03:08 < EvilDude> i wanna powerbook 03:08 < kylemarple> lol. go powerbook! I'm on my 17 incher now 03:08 -!- RandomUser57 [~antacid69@CPE-144-131-107-114.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 03:08 < EvilDude> damn you mac people! i wanna mac :( 03:08 < BleuLlama> he already has a MDD G4 with a flatpanel display. nice machine 03:08 < EvilDude> wow 03:08 < kylemarple> I like the new mac mini, actually, with maxed specs 03:08 < EvilDude> and cheap :D 03:09 < EvilDude> *time to convince parents to get one for me somehow * 03:09 < EvilDude> I need a deent dev env, and im not used to linux at all 03:09 < EvilDude> although im getting a little more familiar with it 03:09 < kylemarple> Now after iPod linux is successful, we need to port OS X to X86 03:09 < EvilDude> but mac osx seems like the perfect os between windows and linux 03:09 < EvilDude> LOL! 03:09 < EvilDude> I wish 03:09 < roowie> OS X is already ported? 03:09 < EvilDude> there was this pearpc thing but it was too slow supposedly 03:10 < roowie> but not released 03:10 < EvilDude> :S? 03:10 < EvilDude> what? 03:10 < kylemarple> OS X seems perfect because it is. It has the features of linux with the ease and compatibliity of windows 03:10 < roowie> didnt the Apple team port it to x86 if they have to move over to the x86 platform 03:10 < EvilDude> they're moving to x86? 03:10 < roowie> no 03:10 < EvilDude> and osx is also very pretty =D 03:10 < kylemarple> I heard the apple team runs it on their pcs, but it was never released 03:11 < EvilDude> cool 03:11 < EvilDude> I want osx on my pc! 03:11 < BleuLlama> darwin has been running on x86, which is the underlying BSD variant 03:11 < roowie> just if something forces theme to do it 03:11 < BleuLlama> OS X, the gui and app layer will probably never be ported to x86 03:11 < kylemarple> I'm glad OS X runs so great, because linux on Mac is REALLY SCREWED UP 03:11 < roowie> eg. a UFO 03:11 < EvilDude> yeah :( 03:11 < BleuLlama> it would be a support nightmare for them, they'd just lose money 03:11 < EvilDude> damn. 03:12 < EvilDude> Im stuck on windows or linux 03:12 < kylemarple> I tried yellow dog, gentoo, and suse, and all of them screwed up my powerbook 03:12 < BleuLlama> evil; try BeOS. ;) 03:12 < EvilDude> whats so special about it 03:12 < kylemarple> gentoo is my fav, but I'm using suse 9.1 now because gentoo messed up my network card 03:12 < roowie> i'm in a OS development team :) 03:13 < kylemarple> which OS? 03:13 < roowie> ncore, or Codename PeOS 03:13 < kylemarple> never heard of it, lol 03:13 < roowie> http://peos.2lug.se/ 03:13 < kylemarple> ah 03:13 < roowie> not released yet 03:14 < kylemarple> Me, I'd like linux and OS X better than anything if they JUST HAD GAMES SUPPORT 03:14 < kylemarple> PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO WRITE MULTI PLATFORM SOFTWARE, MAN 03:14 < kylemarple> Tcl/TK, anyone? :) 03:14 < roowie> server is down 03:15 < roowie> haha Tcl 03:15 < EvilDude> also another reason i stick on windows 03:15 < EvilDude> and also iTunes!! Linux needs iTunes 03:15 < kylemarple> I'm learning Tcl now 03:15 < EvilDude> I cant live without it anymore 03:16 < roowie> kylemarple: are you familar with C/C++ 03:16 < kylemarple> love it 03:16 < EvilDude> BleuLlama: any luck with the iTunesDB thing? 03:16 < roowie> ok :) 03:16 < BleuLlama> about to try 03:16 < EvilDude> ok 03:16 < BleuLlama> i need to copy over the db, and some of the music files. :P 03:16 < BleuLlama> gimme a few. 03:17 < EvilDude> lol ok thanks 03:17 < EvilDude> roowie: what would i need to learn for os dev? 03:17 < roowie> alot about hardware and asm/C 03:18 < roowie> and it's easier if you know how the processor work 03:18 < kylemarple> here's an idea: lets file a class action lawsuit against every software company releasing only single platform software on the gbrounds that its aiding a monopoly 03:18 < EvilDude> hehe 03:18 < EvilDude> hmm damn 03:18 < EvilDude> I know c 03:18 < EvilDude> no hardware or asm :( 03:19 < roowie> asm is really basic 03:19 < roowie> not hard to learn 03:19 < EvilDude> I finally learnt c properly though 03:19 < roowie> just a little bit odd 03:19 < kylemarple> I would love to learn asm, but which one? X86? 03:19 < EvilDude> a few months ago i'd say pointers are useless 03:19 < EvilDude> now i see how efficient they are :D 03:19 < EvilDude> yeah but i dun see point of asm atm 03:19 < EvilDude> it seems too basic :S 03:19 < roowie> it cant be more basic 03:20 < EvilDude> yeah but it seems a little time consuming :p 03:20 < roowie> :) yes, that is true 03:20 < EvilDude> maybe i should learn x86 asm but is there any place you have to use asm rather than c? 03:21 < kylemarple> do what I did: develop OCD. Then you can spend hours doing little or nothing...or coding...and enjoy it 03:21 < EvilDude> OCD? 03:21 < roowie> you are working without a API, it's odd in the beginning. 03:21 < kylemarple> Obsessive compulsive disorder : 03:21 < kylemarple> :) 03:21 < EvilDude> lol 03:22 < EvilDude> hmm so how do you do something useful in asm lol 03:22 < roowie> EvilDude: try to use C as long as you can 03:22 < EvilDude> yeah 03:22 < BleuLlama> i can't get it to load my database 03:22 < EvilDude> =\ damn what does it say 03:22 < EvilDude> cant find file? 03:22 < BleuLlama> same error 03:22 < kylemarple> I love being a CS major. Coding anything is just fun 03:22 < BleuLlama> lemme check the .c to see exactly what it wants 03:22 < EvilDude> =( 03:22 < EvilDude> ok 03:23 < EvilDude> yeah I know, i love coding :D 03:23 < EvilDude> I cant wait till next year 03:23 < EvilDude> Im still in high school atm, 12th grade. 03:23 < kylemarple> ah. I'm a sophomore in my 2nd semester of college 03:23 < kylemarple> started out with 28 hours from ap testing and a couple clep tests 03:23 < EvilDude> 28 hours... ouch lol 03:24 < roowie> http://www.xs4all.nl/~smit/docs.htm#asm 03:24 < roowie> a very good start 03:24 < BleuLlama> aaaah. it's looking in the wrong place. 03:24 < EvilDude> cool 03:24 < EvilDude> it is :S? 03:25 < BleuLlama> it's looking in the local directory rather than in /ipod_control, etc... 03:25 < EvilDude> ohhh 03:25 < EvilDude> that should be a bug report lol 03:25 < BleuLlama> whoa 03:25 < EvilDude> ? 03:25 < kylemarple> hmm...I'm bored. What weird crap can I do to screw up my webserver? I alreay put up a forum, a store, and a mail server 03:25 < BleuLlama> no, it looks in the local directory if it's being built for desktop 03:26 < EvilDude> ah 03:26 < BleuLlama> it loaded, but my screen is filled with garbage 03:26 < EvilDude> =S 03:26 < EvilDude> hmm 03:26 < EvilDude> i know why 03:26 < BleuLlama> then it segfaulted. heh 03:26 < EvilDude> 3 lines of garbage? 03:26 < EvilDude> damn 03:26 < BleuLlama> nope. it's a UTF16 thing... i get errors spewed: 03:26 < EvilDude> damn 03:26 < BleuLlama> Unhandled id 50 mode 7079686d: . 03:26 < BleuLlama> mhod to small 03:26 < BleuLlama> UTF16 to UTF8 conversion failed. 03:26 < BleuLlama> Unhandled id 50 mode 7079686d: . 03:26 < BleuLlama> mhod to small 03:26 < BleuLlama> UTF16 to UTF8 conversion failed. 03:26 < BleuLlama> Unhandled id 50 mode 7079686d: . 03:26 < BleuLlama> flood. sorry 03:26 < BleuLlama> etc. 03:27 < BleuLlama> lots of that 03:27 < EvilDude> ah damn 03:27 < EvilDude> wonder if the iTunesDB on desktop works for anyone 03:27 < kylemarple> *bored* 03:27 < kylemarple> I need to code something 03:27 < EvilDude> lol 03:27 < EvilDude> code something for the iPod :D 03:28 < kylemarple> Would if I knew how 03:28 < BleuLlama> i dunno. but i'm going back to work on Vortex now. :) 03:28 < kylemarple> or could use it :( 03:28 < EvilDude> just make any program using standard libraries 03:28 < EvilDude> and it works basically :D 03:28 < EvilDude> ah well bleullama thanks anyway 03:28 < roowie> kylemarple: comeon make a program that flashes my 4G backlight 03:28 < kylemarple> lol 03:28 < EvilDude> kylemarple why dont you just make a game or something 03:28 < roowie> very useful :9 03:29 < EvilDude> itd be awesome at night ;) 03:29 < EvilDude> too bad the battery wouldnt last very long 03:29 < kylemarple> I'm into the web stuff right now. Trying to think of weird stuff to do with my webserver 03:29 < roowie> a iPod Benc Tool would be nice 03:29 < roowie> Bench* 03:29 < roowie> :D 03:30 < kylemarple> I have unlimited space and bandwidth :P I just need an idea 03:30 < EvilDude> can you control the comp and get files off it remotely :P? 03:30 < EvilDude> (only one way to reduce security measures :D) 03:30 < EvilDude> i wanna make my own type of webserver with stupid things like that but i'd end up doing it in vb =\ 03:31 < kylemarple> I have ftp access, if that's what you mean, but it isn't my server 03:31 < EvilDude> hmm i need something to code ive done the playlist thing and only thing left is shuffle albums and i dun like sorting :( 03:31 < kylemarple> I have a mail server up and running with squrrelmail, a store with OSCommerce, and a forum with phpBB 03:31 < EvilDude> yeah ftp is enough 03:31 < kylemarple> what else is there? 03:32 < EvilDude> custom programs are always more fun 03:32 < EvilDude> neway gtg 03:32 < BleuLlama> i once wrote a webserver in perl. heh 03:32 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-44.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 < kylemarple> lol 03:32 < kylemarple> I hate perl 03:32 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:32 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:32 < davidc__> hello all 03:33 < kylemarple> yo 03:33 < davidc__> kylemarple: Haven't seen you around before 03:33 < kylemarple> now that its booting, any timetable on full 4G linux, oh channel op? 03:33 < kylemarple> I'm new 03:33 < kylemarple> Found a link and got stoked about running linux on my ipod, but its a 4G 03:33 < kylemarple> :( 03:33 < BleuLlama> i think the estimates are like april or so 03:33 < davidc__> heh. heh. heh. 03:34 < davidc__> you're new 03:34 < BleuLlama> april or may 03:34 < davidc__> you'll live. for a while. 03:34 < kylemarple> lol 03:34 < davidc__> [usually bugging me about 4g timeline results in excruciating pain] 03:34 < roowie> Flowcharts rocks!!! 03:34 < roowie> http://roowie.se/~roowie/flowchart.jpg 03:34 < roowie> :/ 03:34 < kylemarple> well, it is booting now, that's some solice 03:35 < davidc__> roowie: and the point of that is? 03:35 < roowie> it's to our OS project 03:35 < davidc__> kylemarple: yeah, I know. I ported the LCD driver :) [all 2 registers of changes] 03:35 < kylemarple> awesome 03:36 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org/Image:Davidc_vs_noob.jpg 03:36 < davidc__> yeah, that sorta explains thing 03:36 < davidc__> ['s] 03:36 < kylemarple> bwahaha 03:37 < davidc__> yeah, so you get the point :) 03:37 * davidc__ goes off to work on mp3 decoding stuff 03:38 < roowie> fmod :) 03:38 < davidc__> do you own fmod :) 03:38 < roowie> noo :) 03:38 < roowie> fmod is sweet 03:38 < davidc__> oh 03:38 < davidc__> wait 03:38 < davidc__> it does playing stuff 03:38 < roowie> :O 03:38 < davidc__> but the chances of it getting to run on uClinux is tiny 03:39 < kylemarple> :( me need linux on everything I own 03:39 < roowie> give it a try and let me pray 03:39 < davidc__> we use a decoder optimized by intel to get the speeds we do 03:39 < kylemarple> I would buy a toaster if it had linux 03:39 < davidc__> do, I doubt it :) 03:39 < davidc__> er, so 03:39 < davidc__> the trick is getting the COP working, which is my current project 03:40 < BleuLlama> that's the second CPU? 03:40 < davidc__> yea 03:40 < davidc__> well, doing anything as a main task 03:40 < BleuLlama> are they the same? 03:40 < davidc__> ignoring DMA int's 03:40 < davidc__> well 03:40 < BleuLlama> gotcha 03:40 < davidc__> one is the CPU, one is tehe COP 03:40 < davidc__> no distinction otherwise 03:40 * BleuLlama likes to stay on the application/userland side of things (except for z80 pac-man hardware... heh) 03:41 < BleuLlama> gotcha 03:41 < davidc__> we arbitraily decided that linux would run on the CPU 03:41 < roowie> does somebody have docs for ARM7TDMI 03:41 < kylemarple> What I want to know is why the opensourcers always end up with the innovations. Apple could do unix on the ipod itself and easily sell the things for a grand 03:41 < cohmapapphome> Repeating request in case someone newly alive can help: Can someone send me their ipodlinux directory? I'm really stuck trying to get it to build. One with the ipod tree and the desktop tree for pc linux would be great. :-) 03:41 < cohmapapphome> The ipod side builds, but the desktop side does not 03:42 < davidc__> desktop side? 03:42 < davidc__> as in podzilla? 03:42 < cohmapapphome> ipodlinux/desktop 03:42 < davidc__> I don't use that section, but if you need the kernel tree.... 03:42 < davidc__> err. 03:42 < davidc__> ipodlinux is two components 03:42 < davidc__> linux kernel 03:42 < cohmapapphome> for viewing in X 03:42 < davidc__> and podzilla 03:42 < davidc__> you mean podzilla 03:42 < cohmapapphome> podzilla, yeah, sorry 03:43 < davidc__> Anyways, I haven't had a podzilla tree for ages 03:43 < cohmapapphome> I have not built the kernel yet 03:43 < cohmapapphome> 4g=me 03:43 < davidc__> don't bother unless you're involved in the kernel hacking effort 03:43 < cohmapapphome> :-) That's what I figured. 03:44 < davidc__> there is no other difference in the kernels 03:45 < davidc__> the only difference between the current release kernel and the dev kernel is 4g support 03:45 < kylemarple> well, I'm off. cya 03:45 -!- kylemarple [~kylemarpl@dormfirewall.cameron.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:46 < davidc__> [note: partial 4g support] 03:46 -!- RandomUser57 [~antacid69@CPE-144-131-107-114.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 03:48 < roowie> \o/ 03:48 < davidc__> roowie: ? 03:48 < roowie> it sounds good 03:48 < davidc__> roowie: all its got is lcd, and it barely boots 03:49 < davidc__> its not production quality. or even alpha 03:49 < roowie> can i try it on my mini? 03:49 < davidc__> nobody has tried it on a mini yet. 03:49 < davidc__> want me to make you a build and you can see what happens? 03:49 < roowie> sure 03:49 < davidc__> roowie: 1: I make no guarentees that you won't to have to completely restore. 03:50 < roowie> no problem, it's empty 03:50 < davidc__> alright then 03:50 < davidc__> you know how to make your own firmware image? 03:50 < davidc__> so I can just send you the kernel build? 03:50 < roowie> hm no 03:51 < roowie> wich program should i use? 03:51 < davidc__> ok, do you have patch_fw and etc? 03:51 < roowie> no 03:51 < davidc__> ok, you don't want to do this then 03:51 < roowie> ok 03:51 < davidc__> it requires doing quite a bit of manipulation to put the kernel on 03:51 < davidc__> I've got scripts to do it automatically for my 1stG ipod 03:52 < davidc__> but they'll only work on my layout 03:52 -!- EvilDude [EvilDude@61.1.188.174] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:52 < roowie> do you use windows? 03:52 < davidc__> roowie: nope, mac os x / linux 03:52 < roowie> ok 03:53 < davidc__> if you're on windows, don't bother trying. I know of no way short of installing cygwin and building all the tools yourself to do it on that 03:53 < davidc__> windows really sucks for HW dev work 03:53 < davidc__> especially in this case 03:53 < roowie> cyg is allready installed :) 03:53 < davidc__> roowie: oh, good 03:54 < davidc__> do you have an arm_elf toolchain? 03:54 < roowie> nope 03:54 < davidc__> hrm, I don't know how to manually copy the firmware under windows 03:54 < roowie> not yet 03:54 < davidc__> if you know how to do that, then we can try it 03:55 < davidc__> might say somewhere on ipodlinux.org 03:55 < davidc__> I'm too busy coding to look now 03:55 < roowie> yea give me a couple of minutes :) 03:56 < davidc__> I'm in no hurry 03:56 < davidc__> I'll prolly be here for the next 10 hours or so 03:57 < davidc__> nothing like coding at 3:00 in the morning 03:57 < roowie> 05:02 here in Sweden 03:57 < roowie> thumb up 03:57 < davidc__> 5:02 in the morning in Sweden? 03:57 < roowie> yes 03:57 < roowie> :) 03:57 < davidc__> ah, its 8:02 at night here, but I will becoding at 3 in the morning :) 03:58 < davidc__> eh, I've always wanted to visit sweden 03:58 < roowie> :) you are so welcome 03:58 < davidc__> only problem is: me = poor student who speaks no swedish 03:59 < davidc__> well, thats really 2 problems 04:00 < xt> I guess most swedish people speaks english very well 04:00 < roowie> xt: we start learning from third grade 04:00 < davidc__> heh, didn't knwo that 04:01 < roowie> but hm.. i think i missed some lessons ;) 04:01 < xt> most scandinavians are very good in english 04:01 < roowie> *hrkm* finish *hrkm* not 04:01 < xt> yeah, except from those guys 04:01 < roowie> :) 04:02 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:03 -!- petrusss [petrusss@h224n2fls31o862.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:04 < BleuLlama> okay. done responding on the wiki.. back to hacking. 04:04 < davidc__> BleuLlama: whatyahackin on? 04:05 < BleuLlama> Vortex 04:05 < BleuLlama> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/Vortex 04:06 < davidc__> BleuLlama: so, will it be done by tonight? 04:06 < BleuLlama> i'd like to get the web scaling and drawn correctly tonight 04:07 < BleuLlama> and perhaps object rendering onto the web... that'd be cool 04:07 < roowie> davidc__: doesn't this work: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm 04:08 < davidc__> it might, if you can figure out how to write to the right partition 04:08 < roowie> let me try 04:08 < roowie> where can i find the image 04:08 < davidc__> err, this might work: 04:08 < davidc__> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm 04:08 < davidc__> because first you need to read the image 04:09 < davidc__> use the dd one I 04:09 < davidc__> 'd say 04:09 < roowie> I see 04:09 < davidc__> what you need to do is dd the firmware file, use patch_fw to extract the apple imatge 04:09 < davidc__> then make a coposite of bootloader, apple, and linux 04:09 < davidc__> and then download composite to ipo 04:10 < roowie> ok 04:10 < davidc__> there's docs on the wiki IIRC 04:15 -!- petrusss [petrusss@h224n2fls31o862.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:15 -!- petrusss [petrusss@h224n2fls31o862.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:15 -!- petrusss [petrusss@h224n2fls31o862.telia.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Lämnar"] 04:15 < davidc__> roowie: let me know if you get that stuff up 04:15 < davidc__> [right now, still trying to build the new kernel. its not,... cooperating] 04:16 < roowie> dd is set up and i'm reading on ipodlinux.org 04:16 -!- bogeyman [~os_proxy@24-165-22-162.san.rr.com] has quit [] 04:17 < davidc__> roowie: awesome. We haven't tested the auto-screen-detect code yet. this will be good practice 04:17 < davidc__> yay 04:17 < davidc__> found the bug 04:17 < davidc__> now to test the kernel on my 1g 04:18 < BleuLlama> which bug? 04:18 < davidc__> eh, mistake in the current CVS code 04:18 < Jonas_NZ> davidc__, what are you working on? 04:18 < davidc__> 4g stuff 04:18 < davidc__> and COP stuff 04:19 < BleuLlama> cool 04:20 < davidc__> .ltorg was missing 04:20 < davidc__> so =0x defines were getting stuck in the next section 04:20 < davidc__> which caused compile errors 04:22 < davidc__> ok, kernel works fine on 1st gen 04:22 < davidc__> roowie: If you're ready... 04:22 < roowie> i'm installing arm-elf 04:22 < davidc__> roowie: ok 04:22 < davidc__> compiling? 04:22 < davidc__> or installing? 04:22 < roowie> yes compl 04:23 < davidc__> ah 04:23 < roowie> ready now 04:23 < davidc__> ok 04:23 < davidc__> so you got arm-elf installed, the patch_fw + bootloader created 04:23 < davidc__> and dd installed 04:23 < davidc__> and you know how to patch a kernel image in? 04:23 < roowie> patch_fw hm no where can i find that one? 04:23 < davidc__> tis on ipodlinux sf project 04:23 < roowie> latest linux patch? 04:24 < davidc__> nah, 04:24 < davidc__> its separate 04:24 < davidc__> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73079 04:24 < davidc__> actually, grab the ipodloader stuff 04:25 < davidc__> that should contain it 04:26 < roowie> can just find make_fw 04:26 < davidc__> yeah 04:26 < davidc__> thats it 04:26 < davidc__> make_fw 04:26 < roowie> ok done 04:26 < davidc__> used to be called patch_Fw 04:26 < davidc__> anyways 04:26 < davidc__> follow the install isntructions to get apple_os.bin 04:26 < davidc__> well, in the readme 04:26 < roowie> ok 04:26 < davidc__> you'll have to figure out how to use your windows dd 04:27 < davidc__> it won't be /dev like linux of course 04:27 < roowie> i'm running thruu cyg 04:27 < davidc__> hmm.. 04:27 < davidc__> does it map block devices? 04:27 < roowie> hm, i can check that 04:27 < davidc__> I'm not sure it does 04:27 < davidc__> I'll check just a sec 04:28 < roowie> yea, it worked 04:28 < roowie> H: Ipod mini 04:28 < davidc__> no 04:28 < roowie> :/ 04:28 < davidc__> thats not the firmware partition 04:28 < davidc__> there are two partitions on the mini 04:28 < davidc__> theres a drive containing the standard files 04:28 < davidc__> + a hidden binary partition 04:28 < davidc__> containing the firmware 04:29 < roowie> ah 04:29 < davidc__> and we have to use dd to read and wriet from that partition 04:30 < roowie> ok 04:31 < roowie> should i follow this one? http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux 04:32 < davidc__> actually, you could try using this thing: 04:32 < davidc__> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=109573&package_id=118386 04:32 < davidc__> see if it lets you select a custom kernel 04:32 < roowie> ok 04:33 < roowie> linux.bin 04:33 < roowie> can i just replace it? 04:34 < davidc__> yeah 04:34 < davidc__> I'll send you the new one 04:34 < roowie> great 04:34 < davidc__> just a sec 04:35 < davidc__> let me post it 04:35 < davidc__> now remember, if this fucks your ipod, I am in absolutely no way responsible 04:35 < davidc__> I'll help you fix it, but just remember that 04:35 < roowie> yay :) 04:36 < davidc__> hehe 04:36 < BleuLlama> /msg davidc__ you put in the code that makes it destroy itself right? hehehe 04:36 < BleuLlama> oops 04:36 < davidc__> crap forogt. 04:36 < davidc__> oops 04:38 < davidc__> david.carne.ca/ipodlinux/4.0kernel.bin 04:38 < davidc__> enjoy 04:38 < davidc__> roowie: let me know how it goes.. I'd be very interested to see what happens 04:38 < davidc__> most likely it will crash on boot, but oh well 04:38 < roowie> yea, i answer if i'm alive 04:39 < davidc__> eh 04:39 < davidc__> it shouldn't explode 04:39 < davidc__> maybe fizzle 04:39 < roowie> ;) 04:39 < davidc__> but not explode 04:39 < BleuLlama> lets out all of the blue smoke 04:39 < BleuLlama> fzssssssssssss 04:40 < roowie> ok, hold your thumbs now 04:40 < BleuLlama> hold your thumbs? 04:40 < BleuLlama> is that like "cross your fingers"? 04:40 < roowie> no 04:41 < roowie> gives me lucky 04:41 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-44.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:41 < BleuLlama> yeah. we cross our fingers for good luck. 04:41 < BleuLlama> You're swedish? 04:41 < roowie> aha, cross your fingers in sweden is when you lie 04:41 < roowie> yse 04:41 < roowie> yes 04:41 < davidc__> roowie: we use it for both 04:42 < BleuLlama> lol. that's interesting. 04:42 < davidc__> as in cross you're fingers behind your back when you don't mean what you 04:42 < davidc__> 're saying 04:42 < davidc__> and also for luck 04:42 < davidc__> heh 04:42 < BleuLlama> oh yeah. good point 04:42 < BleuLlama> i never noticed that; 04:43 < roowie> time to disconnect 04:43 < davidc__> alrite 04:43 < davidc__> [drumroll....] 04:43 < roowie> uhm, a flashing flder 04:43 < roowie> folder 04:43 < davidc__> roowie: ah, no suprise :) 04:43 < davidc__> I didn't expect much more 04:44 < davidc__> just use the installer to restore it 04:44 < roowie> yea 04:44 < roowie> just say my name if you want me to test another one 04:44 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:48 < BleuLlama> i never realized that before with the crossing of the fingers... you cross your fingers behind your back when you're lying about something, or you cross your fingers for good luck. that's messed up. 04:48 < davidc__> yep 04:48 < davidc__> humans are a fucked up race 04:49 < BleuLlama> that we are 04:49 < roowie> :D 04:50 < BleuLlama> speaking about being fucked up... i think i'm gonna play some Katamari Damacy to get my head in the right place for hacking 04:50 < davidc__> Katamari Damacy? 04:50 < davidc__> oh, the sticky ball thingy. 04:50 < roowie> davidc__: are you sure that i replaced the right file? 04:50 * davidc__ just listens to techno 04:50 < davidc__> roowie: no, not really 04:50 < davidc__> roowie: it could have been one of a billion things 04:51 < BleuLlama> yeah. i just got it yesterday. :D 04:51 < davidc__> roowie: and I really need to get this COP code done 04:51 < BleuLlama> while i'm hacking, i listen to lots of techno stuff. 04:51 < BleuLlama> :) 04:51 < davidc__> guess what, our teacher @ school is buying us a mod-chipped ps2 04:51 < davidc__> for 'software development' 04:51 < roowie> haha 04:51 < davidc__> well, we will be using it for software dev 04:51 < davidc__> but also for other stuff :) 04:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+s ] by davidc__ 04:56 < davidc__> er 04:56 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-s ] by davidc__ 04:57 < roowie> uhm, i must find a partion program for windows 04:57 < davidc__> clicking somewhere on the xchat-window is a bad idea. especially when one is ops 04:57 -!- waltsdog [~waltsdog9@c-67-162-65-252.client.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:22 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 05:25 < BleuLlama> roowie: ranish partition manager works really well for me. 05:26 < davidc__> BleuLlama: no, for downloading stuff to the ipod 05:26 < BleuLlama> aaah 05:26 < BleuLlama> nm 05:29 < davidc__> hmm. My pile of dead hardware and other electronics seems to have come aplive 05:29 < davidc__> its shifting ominously and making groaning noises from deep within 05:29 < davidc__> nm, just a cardboard box giving way. 05:31 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:36 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:36 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:47 -!- wbniv_ [~wbniv@user-0c6t0a3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 < veteran_BAH> haha i bought my cousins a modded xbox for christmas 05:54 < Hostile> nice 05:54 < Hostile> lucky them 05:54 < veteran_BAH> yep i got my other cousin to "aquire" some games to run on it 05:54 < Hostile> :) 05:54 < veteran_BAH> some were in french with peeling CD stomper labels, but they didn't care ;) 05:55 -!- wbniv [~wbniv@user-0c6t0e2.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:57 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:01 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:01 -!- waltsdog [~waltsdog9@c-67-162-65-252.client.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:02 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:02 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:03 < veteran> alright well i'm out 06:03 < veteran> time for my connection to stop adding kb to the chat log 06:03 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:13 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:19 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:23 -!- Zee_ [~Zee@dsl-101-11.westby.mwt.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:25 < Zee_> I have a iPod photo, is there any new news on the 4gen progress ? 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06:35 < davidc__> which work? 06:36 < davidc__> the netsplit? 06:41 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:48 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 06:51 < macPod> I've been playing around with it, but there's an option in there called "Drop HDD" which I'm assuming does damage 06:51 < macPod> ;ol 06:51 < macPod> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=942&highlight=&sid=6e8a8fddf98ea8a61fc8677355504e7d 06:51 < macPod> crazy noobs 06:51 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 06:52 < davidc__> yea 06:52 * davidc__ clobbers n00bs with a rock 06:53 < Zee_> weird 06:53 < macPod> heh 06:54 < Zee_> so any thing cool or weird I can do with a ipod photo 06:54 < davidc__> hit it with a sledgehammer? 06:54 < davidc__> thats cool, and very, very, weird. 06:55 < macPod> go into diagnostic mode and snooparound in there 06:57 -!- wbniv_ [~wbniv@user-0c6t0a3.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:57 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:59 < cohmapapphome> macPod, I can't get podzilla desktop to build on my linux box. Could you zip up your ipodlinux dir for me? No problem if not, but it would help me out. 07:00 < macPod> what error do you get? 07:00 < cohmapapphome> In function `GdDecodeImage': 07:01 < cohmapapphome> - /home/jtokash/ipodlinux/desktop/microwindows-0.90/src/engine/devimage.c:850: undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error' 07:01 < macPod> what instructions did you follow? 07:01 < cohmapapphome> first, I did the ipod build instructions on the wiki 07:01 < macPod> link? 07:01 < cohmapapphome> then I did the desktop instructions 07:01 < cohmapapphome> um... just a sec 07:01 < cohmapapphome> I did this one second: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop 07:02 < cohmapapphome> and this one first: http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Building_Podzilla 07:02 < cohmapapphome> The errors are in the last step(make) of bpforthedesktop 07:02 < cohmapapphome> I think I might have the jpeg stuff misconfigured somehow, but I followed all the directions 07:03 < davidc__> anyone know if leachbj is planning to be around tonite? 07:03 < macPod> dunno 07:03 < cohmapapphome> FYI, macPod, this line is wrong: cp -r tools/microwindows ~/ipodlinux/microwindows 07:03 < macPod> coh did you get it to compile for the iPod? 07:03 < macPod> hey now I did not write those directins :p 07:04 < cohmapapphome> macPod, it did compile for the ipod, yes(I have a g4, so I couldn't test it). After I got the desktop version mostly building, I started getting errors trying to build the ipod version 07:04 < cohmapapphome> macPod, sorry, I thought someone told me you did. They are great instructions. 07:05 < macPod> I made the base instructioons a long time ago 07:05 < macPod> feel free to fix if you see and know they are errors 07:05 < courtc> davidc__- he says he might be around for a bit tomorrow but then hes gone on vacation 07:05 < davidc__> ah bugger 07:05 < macPod> so you did get it working for the iPod right coh? 07:06 < davidc__> so, aka, not in the next few hours? 07:06 < cohmapapphome> yep, macPod, it did build for ipod (couldn't test it of course) 07:06 < courtc> maybe.. If he gets up early 07:06 < macPod> ok thats fine 07:07 < macPod> so now did you set up another dir for the desktop compilations? or did you just take the better approach and have a jpeg-6b.x11/ dir etc? 07:07 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["<+phlange> i said 'dhcp' and the tech support guy started to cry and go 'i hate my job i hate my job i hate my job'"] 07:08 < davidc__> courtc: need to talk to him about some more multi-cpu stuff 07:08 < cohmapapphome> macPod, I created a separate desktop directory 07:08 < macPod> ok 07:08 < cohmapapphome> podzilla is in one dir 07:08 < cohmapapphome> and then there are 3 subdirs each in ipod and desktop 07:09 < macPod> what folders do you have in the podzilla for x11 dir? 07:09 < cohmapapphome> actually, 4 under the desktop(tools) 07:10 < cohmapapphome> ls desktop 07:10 < cohmapapphome> jpeg-6b/ libitunesdb_0.5.1/ microwindows-0.90/ tools/ 07:10 < macPod> in tools is there a podzilla dir? 07:11 < cohmapapphome> no, microwindows and CVS 07:11 < macPod> well that's one problem 07:11 < cohmapapphome> :-/ 07:11 < macPod> but for later 07:11 < cohmapapphome> I could give you ssh, if that would help 07:11 < cohmapapphome> I just need to set my router to allow it. 07:11 < macPod> so you copied the microwindows stuff in tools to the microwindows-0.** dir 07:12 -!- mch [~chatzilla@h-68-165-204-114.chcgilgm.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:12 < courtc> cohmapapphome- are you giving ssh access to random people on irc? 07:12 < cohmapapphome> just macpod 07:12 < cohmapapphome> :-) 07:12 < macPod> still that might not be a good idea ;p 07:12 < courtc> hes fairly random... 07:12 < cohmapapphome> I just installed linux on it last night 07:12 < cohmapapphome> but, yeah, I see your point 07:12 < macPod> :) 07:13 < macPod> I wouldn't do anything but I would still nto advise it 07:13 < cohmapapphome> I'm throwing caution to the wind 07:13 < cohmapapphome> just a sec 07:13 < macPod> not many people spontaneously break into dance, program and draw pictures 07:13 < macPod> dont bother with ssh 07:13 < cohmapapphome> oh, ok 07:13 < macPod> I would rather tell you the process 07:14 < macPod> that way you actually know what is going on 07:14 < cohmapapphome> teach a man to fish 07:14 < macPod> so you compiled the jpeg-6b yes? 07:14 < Zee_> does any one know if there is a IRC room for cocoa and objective c noobs? 07:14 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:14 < cohmapapphome> yep, compiled 07:15 < macPod> Zee_: http://cocoadevcentral.com/ 07:15 < macPod> good place 07:15 < macPod> also has good links 07:15 < Zee_> sweet, thanx 07:15 < cohmapapphome> macPod - your comment about tools - did I do a CVS to the wrong dir? 07:15 < macPod> no 07:15 < macPod> just did nto get to a step 07:15 < cohmapapphome> uh oh 07:15 -!- wbniv_ [~wbniv@user-0c6t0e2.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 07:16 < macPod> alright and you did say you copied the microwindows files from cvs into the microwindows-0.** folder again right? 07:16 < courtc> ipp/lib; ipp/include; libjpeg; libitunesdb/src; libitunesdb/ipod; microwindows/src; microwindows/mini; microwindows/ipod; podzilla;... thats my ipodlinux directory setup :) 07:17 < cohmapapphome> geez - I can't remember, it was last night 07:17 < macPod> courtc I want to change those locations in the makefile :) 07:17 < cohmapapphome> Should I just redo everything? 07:17 < macPod> coh, I would suggest deleteing the cvs dir and the microwindows dir 07:17 < macPod> then follow those instructions 07:17 < macPod> it sounds like either those files did not get copied or you did not copy the config file 07:18 < macPod> or did nto config it properly 07:18 < courtc> macPod- I didn't setup the the makefile directory structure... thats all leachbj 07:18 < cohmapapphome> follow the desktop directions or do the ipod directions again and then the desktop? 07:18 < macPod> we should have an intervention with him 07:18 < macPod> do the desktop directions 07:18 < cohmapapphome> k, I'll do that now 07:20 < cohmapapphome> macPod... um 07:20 < cohmapapphome> My directory structure does not match yours 07:20 < cohmapapphome> When I got the new Makefile, I moved a bunch of 07:20 < macPod> how do you know what mine looks lie? 07:20 < cohmapapphome> stuff into the ipod directory 07:20 < cohmapapphome> oh, sorry - that's courtc's 07:20 < macPod> that is courtc's directory 07:20 < cohmapapphome> :-) 07:20 < macPod> dont worry 07:20 < macPod> the location of stuff is flexible 07:21 < macPod> courtc: I do like your setup 07:21 < cohmapapphome> is this the makefile I should be using? http://www.themovievault.com/Makefile 07:21 < cohmapapphome> it was mentioned at the end of the desktop instructions 07:21 < macPod> link? 07:22 < macPod> n/m 07:23 -!- phildev [~phildev@philippe.devallois.net] has quit ["I'm afraid I have to sleep now..."] 07:23 < macPod> no 07:23 < macPod> do not use that makefile 07:23 < courtc> that links gonna be outta date.. 07:23 < cohmapapphome> oh 07:24 < macPod> yea, I'll rework that page tomm 07:24 < macPod> or today 07:24 < macPod> but not when it is 2am :) 07:24 < courtc> :) 07:24 < BleuLlama> but it's not 2am. it's 2:30! 07:24 < macPod> :/ 07:24 < courtc> haha 07:24 < macPod> I still have ice-cream to eat and you are not helping bleu 07:25 < macPod> don't you have some papers to grade ;P 07:25 < BleuLlama> send me some ice cream, and i'll help (eat it) 07:25 < BleuLlama> haha dude. i'm staff, not faculty 07:25 < macPod> too bad :/ 07:26 < BleuLlama> hehe 07:26 < davidc__> @#%!@#% #$@#@#$ audio dma cod 07:26 < davidc__> kill it all 07:27 < macPod> and courtc: I know you are against standardization and all.. but do you think we should make the placement of the directories standardied and then get leachbj to accept that so the makefile works out of the box? 07:27 < courtc> kill -9 1 07:27 < macPod> killall 07:28 < davidc__> yes 07:28 < davidc__> basically 07:28 < courtc> macPod- would be nice.. but its gotta be good. :) 07:28 < davidc__> I've completely re-written my cop code 07:28 < BleuLlama> if any of you have Showtime Extreme, "Lord of the G-strings" is starting now 07:28 < davidc__> but STILL this damn audio DMA shit hammers it 07:28 -!- Zee_ [~Zee@dsl-101-11.westby.mwt.net] has quit [] 07:28 < BleuLlama> cheesy soft-core porn with a geek flair 07:28 < macPod> courtc I would use your structure 07:28 < davidc__> er. no 07:28 < macPod> lol 07:29 < courtc> haha 07:29 < BleuLlama> fyi and stuff 07:29 < courtc> macPod- then thats fine :) but getting leachbj to accept it is the hard part.. 07:29 < macPod> intervention? 07:30 < Hostile> night everyone 07:31 < davidc__> any good n00b posts in the forum that need bashing? I need to take out some anger on an innocent victim 07:31 < davidc__> ? 07:31 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:31 < courtc> haha. lemme look 07:32 < macPod> http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/ 07:32 < BleuLlama> there was an idiot in here: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=937 that didn't understand recompiling... 07:32 < courtc> :D 07:32 < BleuLlama> but they;re quiet now... 07:33 < macPod> heh, they asked for a calculator 07:33 < davidc__> ah well 07:33 < BleuLlama> yeah. a calculator and someone else wanted to just drop the .c on their ipod and have it 'just work' 07:33 < davidc__> heh 07:34 < davidc__> w00t. I think I saw the problem 07:34 < courtc> When i open podzilla on my windows xp with notepad or wordpad, all i get is the square symbols etc 07:34 < davidc__> bhhhahahahahhaha 07:34 < courtc> HAHAHA 07:34 < BleuLlama> yeah.i had a good laugh over that too. 07:34 < BleuLlama> heh 07:35 < davidc__> hmm 07:36 < davidc__> anyone remember how much the PC is ahead of the actual address? 07:38 < davidc__> if this is indeed the problem, I think I may strangle bern 07:39 < macPod> think you could just let him off with a warning? 07:39 < cohmapapphome> macPod - I think I see the problem 07:39 < davidc__> eh, maybe 07:39 < macPod> oh yea? 07:39 < cohmapapphome> [jtokash@localhost libitunesdb_0.5.1]$ automake -a -f 07:39 < cohmapapphome> configure.ac:6: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.9.4, 07:39 < cohmapapphome> configure.ac:6: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE 07:39 < cohmapapphome> configure.ac:6: comes from Automake 1.7.9. You should recreate 07:39 < cohmapapphome> configure.ac:6: aclocal.m4 with aclocal and run automake again. 07:39 < cohmapapphome> Maybe I missed that last night 07:39 < macPod> automake -a 07:39 < macPod> oh no, dont worry about that 07:40 < cohmapapphome> got the same error 07:40 < cohmapapphome> it's ok though? 07:40 < macPod> yea 07:40 < macPod> just compile it 07:40 < macPod> wait 07:41 < macPod> you already built microwindows? 07:41 < cohmapapphome> yep 07:41 < macPod> no errors? 07:41 < cohmapapphome> no errors 07:41 < cohmapapphome> the error comes at the very end 07:41 < cohmapapphome> make on podzilla 07:41 < cohmapapphome> haven't gotten there yet 07:41 < macPod> ok 07:42 < macPod> I thought you were having troubles making microwindows 07:42 < courtc> It comes form linking podzilla into the jpeg code.. which for some reason doesnt seem to be there 07:42 < macPod> that will happen if microwindows is nto set up correctly 07:42 < macPod> i.i 07:42 < macPod> as in the config file was not modified to say jpeg support = y 07:43 < courtc> yup, in which case it doesnt find the jpeg libs.. 07:43 < courtc> 'there' being where microwindows looks.. 07:44 < cohmapapphome> I'm at the very end now, ready to type make 07:45 < cohmapapphome> typed it 07:45 < cohmapapphome> ok, got the error 07:45 < cohmapapphome> errors 07:45 < macPod> post the last few lines in #ipodlinuxflood 07:46 -!- cohmapapphome [blahblahbl@c-67-161-71-118.client.comcast.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:46 -!- cohmapapphome [blahblahbl@c-67-161-71-118.client.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:46 < BleuLlama> heh 07:46 < macPod> lol 07:46 < macPod> just the last few lines 07:46 < macPod> otherwise you get kicked 07:46 < cohmapapphome> right on. 07:46 < courtc> post the *first* error there also.. 07:47 < cohmapapphome> ok, done 07:47 < courtc> add -ljpeg 07:47 < courtc> you silly 07:48 < cohmapapphome> i did that last night. 07:49 < cohmapapphome> doing it again, though(cvs copied over my makefile) 07:49 < cohmapapphome> never mind... it's there 07:49 < cohmapapphome> LDFLAGS+=-L../desktop/jpeg-6b 07:49 < macPod> you need to change the config file 07:49 < macPod> not make file 07:49 < cohmapapphome> ah. cohmapapp==moron 07:49 < courtc> *sigh 07:49 < courtc> I quit 07:50 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 07:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-v courtc ] by courtc 07:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by courtc 07:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by davidc__ 07:50 < cohmapapphome> macPod - microwindows/src config file? 07:51 < courtc> dammit davidc__ 07:51 < davidc__> courtc: haha 07:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v courtc ] by davidc__ 07:51 < macPod> yea 07:53 < courtc> make LDFLAGS=-ljpeg 07:53 < cohmapapphome> macpod - sorry, didn't notice you were talking to me in flood 07:54 < cohmapapphome> and courtc 07:54 < macPod> :) 07:56 < courtc> I'm gonna go eat.. Cause thats what I do when I get ignored.. :p 07:56 < cohmapapphome> :-) 07:56 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 07:56 < macPod> somebody's pissed off :o 07:56 * davidc__ beats arm sp over the head with a lead pipe 07:56 < macPod> see? 07:57 < courtc> I'd be more worried about getting pissed on .. 07:57 < davidc__> SOme people like that kinda thing 07:57 < macPod> no thanks, I pass on watersports 07:58 < cohmapapphome> Is this right? 07:58 < cohmapapphome> ugh... copy not working 07:58 < macPod> post in flood 07:59 < macPod> after applying what courtc mentioned 07:59 < macPod> and doing a make clean && make 07:59 < cohmapapphome> yeah, doing make cleans every time 08:08 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:10 < cohmapapphome> YAY! Macpod and Courtc fixed me up! 08:11 < macPod> courtc did the real work :) 08:11 < macPod> now for bed 08:12 < cohmapapphome> I'm playing tetris on my linux box in the podzilla screen 08:12 < cohmapapphome> it's all been worth it! 08:12 < davidc__> haha 08:12 < heathkit> haha 08:12 < heathkit> Is there a channel or mailing list where the devs working on 4g support hang out? 08:12 < macPod> here 08:13 < davidc__> right here :) 08:13 < davidc__> you're talking to one of em 08:13 < heathkit> ahh, cool. 08:14 < davidc__> anything you wanted to know? 08:15 < courtc> and did you read the topic? 08:15 < heathkit> Where can I grab the latest kernel people are working on? 08:15 < davidc__> courtc: good pre-emtive strike. 08:16 < courtc> haha 08:16 < davidc__> heathkit: its not really available yet. requires a lot of massaging to make it do anything 08:16 < heathkit> :) I'm a little gun-shy to ask anything about 4g support, because people keep pointing out the topic. 08:16 < davidc__> heathkit: if you ask an intelligent question, you'll be fine 08:16 < davidc__> otherwise I'll bite your head off. 08:16 < macPod> otherwise,, 08:17 < cohmapapphome> Wow, steroids has two levels - easy and impossible 08:17 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/User:Busonerd 08:20 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:20 < davidc__> WTF. AFAICT, the FIQ vector is disabled, but never re-enabled 08:20 < davidc__> something strange is afoot 08:22 < courtc> leachbj has mislead you once again! crafty.. 08:22 < davidc__> eh, this seems to be in relatively standard kernel code 08:22 < courtc> linus has mislead you again.... 08:23 < davidc__> yes 08:23 < davidc__> he has 08:23 < davidc__> I proclaim the death penalty 08:26 < cohmapapphome> ouch, livejournal got hosed. http://www.livejournal.com/ 08:27 < davidc__> heh 08:28 < cohmapapphome> stereo mic for the ipod from griffin: http://www.ipodlounge.com/ipodnews.php?id=P6120 08:30 < cohmapapphome> How is that possible? 08:30 < davidc__> don't know, don't care. 08:30 < cohmapapphome> k, sorry for the distraction 08:30 < davidc__> :p 08:30 < davidc__> just fucking with ya. 08:31 < cohmapapphome> :-) 08:31 < davidc__> I'm just fed up with this stupid multi-cpu code, and I have no punching/kicking targets nearby that I can use at 12:31 08:31 < cohmapapphome> must be ridiculous to disassemble - are they different instruction sets? 08:32 < davidc__> cohmapapphome: its not disassembling 08:32 < davidc__> cohmapapphome: its writing 08:32 < cohmapapphome> ah 08:33 < cohmapapphome> must be odd trying to coordinate them. Like having two threads that communicate occasionally 08:33 < davidc__> eh, its not that 08:33 < davidc__> the code I'm working on only runs on one cput 08:33 < davidc__> but, as soon as the FIQ for transferring audio triggers, 08:33 < davidc__> it rapes the state of the prog on the other cpu 08:34 < courtc> and what davidc__ is trying to do is get it to pillage as well... 08:35 < cohmapapphome> :-) 08:35 < nilss> re 08:35 < davidc__> yes 08:35 < courtc> hey nilss 08:35 < davidc__> hey man 08:35 < davidc__> how goes it 08:35 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 08:35 < davidc__> ah, found one issue 08:36 < davidc__> the C compile doesn't preserve r0-r4 08:36 < davidc__> so now I'm preserving em by hand 08:36 < davidc__> this should fix it 08:36 < davidc__> mybe 08:36 < nilss> mhm how do i apply a patch that was made against cvs? ;) 08:39 < davidc__> no clue 08:39 < davidc__> if patch doesn't work that is 08:39 < nilss> mhm 08:39 < courtc> patch the kernel with cvs then patch with the patch? 08:41 < courtc> or whatever you're patching.. 08:41 < nilss> yea it's the kernel 08:42 < davidc__> nilss: wich patch? 08:43 < nilss> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/uclinux_4g.patch 08:44 < davidc__> nilss: part of that is in cvs already 08:44 < davidc__> specifically head-arm-ipod 08:44 < davidc__> er wait 08:44 < davidc__> no it isnt 08:44 < nilss> that's for 4g 08:44 < davidc__> just cat this | patch 08:44 < davidc__> yeah 08:44 < davidc__> there is already a bit of 4g code in cvs 08:44 < davidc__> lcd, head-arm 08:45 < nilss> yea but this code contains now the interrupt handler 08:45 < davidc__> ah 08:45 < nilss> the kernel now hangs because the ide irq doesnt work 08:45 < davidc__> ah 08:46 < davidc__> the question is 08:46 < davidc__> is there any way to make a multi-cpu compatible image? 08:46 < nilss> dont think so 08:46 < davidc__> me neither 08:46 -!- mch [~chatzilla@h-68-165-204-114.chcgilgm.covad.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 08:46 < davidc__> nilss: lets take this convo to dev 08:47 < nilss> k 08:58 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:16 -!- evergreen [florian@pudo.org] has joined #ipodlinux 09:25 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:28 -!- evergreen [florian@pudo.org] has left #ipodlinux [] 09:40 -!- deevus [hixscript@60-240-75-59-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:41 < deevus> hey guys 09:42 < deevus> i recently got a 4g and im really interested in ipodlinux...shame it cant run properly yet on mine :( 09:43 < davidc__> grrrrrrrrr....... 09:43 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by courtc 09:44 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by davidc__ 09:44 < davidc__> why courtc, why? 09:44 < davidc__> temptation? 09:44 < deevus> o.O 09:44 < courtc> no, if it were temptation I'd be deopping other people... 09:44 < davidc__> courtc: haha 09:45 < davidc__> deevus: this explains everything http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Davidc_vs_noob.jpg 09:45 < courtc> I like to be an op in the bushes, so to speak 09:45 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by davidc__ 09:45 < davidc__> there ya go 09:45 < courtc> :) 09:46 < davidc__> now to fix this damn fucking bug 09:46 < deevus> ahaha 09:46 < davidc__> I think I got it 09:46 < deevus> well i wasnt going to ask - coz i already read all the shit 09:46 < davidc__> eh, that covers general complaining and nagging about 4g stuff 09:46 < davidc__> as well 09:47 < deevus> i said one thing lol 09:47 < courtc> dammit whos fault is it that the 4g doent owrk yet? 09:47 < deevus> i can nag if u want :D 09:47 -!- deevus was kicked from #ipodlinux by davidc__ [no you can't] 09:47 -!- deevus [hixscript@60-240-75-59-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 09:47 < deevus> apples? 09:47 < deevus> sif kick me 09:48 < davidc__> sif? 09:48 < deevus> as if 09:48 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+b *!*@*.tpgi.com.au ] by davidc__ 09:48 < davidc__> that better? 09:48 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b deevus!*@* ] by davidc__ 09:49 < davidc__> deevus: I'm in a seriously bad mood at the moment [kernel code being a bitch]. no nagging. 09:49 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 09:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-b *!*@*.tpgi.com.au ] by courtc 09:50 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [-o courtc ] by courtc 09:50 < courtc> see? I came out of nowhere.. 09:50 < davidc__> courtc: freakin pervert, hiding in the bushes. 09:50 < courtc> haha 09:51 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v deevus ] by davidc__ 09:51 < deevus> i wasnt going to nag, i was only joking 09:51 < davidc__> deevus: yeah yeah 09:51 < davidc__> but its quite hard to tell 09:51 < davidc__> sometimes 09:51 < deevus> [8:47:pm] i can nag if u want :D 09:51 < deevus> i did actually mean "u" not i 09:52 < davidc__> ah 09:52 < davidc__> I stand corrected 09:52 < davidc__> apologies 09:52 < deevus> thank you. 09:52 < davidc__> now don't get any ideas. 09:52 < deevus> ^^ 09:52 < davidc__> its 2:00AM in the morning here.. I'm slightly half-awake 09:52 < davidc__> so apologies for missing that 09:52 < deevus> where u at 09:52 < davidc__> BC, Canada 09:52 < courtc> <-- 5:00 AM dont bitch ;) 09:53 < davidc__> courtc: you never slep 09:53 < deevus> 9pm lol 09:53 < davidc__> besides, there's more then one of you 09:54 < courtc> yea, we are the Corperation of United Real Time Clocks 09:54 < davidc__> yea yea 09:54 < davidc__> geh.. time to try out the 5,104,854,328th revision of cop.S 09:54 < davidc__> [damn fecking stack] 09:56 < davidc__> Fucking A! this works! 09:56 < courtc> yay 09:56 < davidc__> now to add back in all the code I ripped out 09:56 < deevus> may i ask wat it is 09:56 < davidc__> deevus: COP jobs 09:56 < davidc__> aka, schedulign the cop to run a job 09:58 < deevus> oh. 09:58 < davidc__> doesn't sound to interesting does it? :) 09:58 < courtc> ooh.. Confusing Outsourced Unrealistic Real-Time Coding 09:58 < deevus> ahah 09:59 < deevus> id love to understand 09:59 < davidc__> Creating Obtuse Unusable Real-Time Comments! 09:59 < courtc> :O 09:59 < davidc__> [now we're just makign fun of courtc's name] 09:59 < courtc> thats good 09:59 < davidc__> sorry I borrowed the Real-time one 09:59 < davidc__> couldn't think of anythign else 10:01 < courtc> so what exactly is 'this' and how well does it work? 10:01 < davidc__> this? 10:01 < davidc__> ah 10:02 < davidc__> er, making the cop blink the backlight as a steady task even while the FIQ dma is being tripped 10:02 < courtc> nice.. good progress 10:04 < davidc__> I know, its rather pathetic, but basically I can assign the COP any given vector and trigger it to run the vector until the vector returns 10:05 < courtc> well, Its a hell of a lot better than we had previously 10:05 < davidc__> haha 10:05 < davidc__> I've had the COP blinking befoer 10:05 < davidc__> its just the damn FIQ stuff that was killing me 10:05 < davidc__> I've also got the fastram rearranged to allow for a MP3_DATA buffer 10:05 < davidc__> as well as an AUdio buf 10:07 < davidc__> FUCKING A! its all working 10:07 < davidc__> FUCK YEAH 10:07 < courtc> thats some good stuff.. :) 10:07 < davidc__> its supporting FULL C code 10:07 < heathkit> :) It's an emotional rollercoaster, writing kernel code 10:07 < davidc__> heathkit: oh yeah 10:07 < davidc__> especially since I've been working on this code for 6 hours 10:07 * davidc__ goes off to do a little dance 10:08 < davidc__> but the good news is now I can have the COP exec almost arbitrary C code 10:08 < davidc__> well, nothing that calls the kernel 10:08 < davidc__> but thats good enough 10:08 < davidc__> having it call the kernel would be a major bitch 10:08 < heathkit> So it can be a dedicated mp3 decoder? 10:09 < davidc__> well, there is a long way to go yet 10:09 < davidc__> but I'm working on it 10:10 < davidc__> so basically, I should now be able to move the mp3 code to the COP... I just gotta write a few more APIS and bits 10:10 < davidc__> to tie stuff together 10:10 < davidc__> cuz I gotta be able to switch between MP3 and AAC and etc. 10:11 < davidc__> but, now to write some test vector code. 10:12 < courtc> the zero wait state fastram should give a big boost to the decoding time, correct? 10:12 < davidc__> whoo. this is really exciting 10:12 < davidc__> yeah 10:12 < davidc__> a _big_ boost 10:12 < davidc__> I'm having the cpu blit the mp3 data to the fastram 10:12 < davidc__> then the decoder operate soley in fastram 10:12 < courtc> :) 10:13 < davidc__> everything in fastram, code, mp3buf 10:13 < davidc__> audio buf 10:13 < davidc__> man.. I've got so much adrenaline in me right now... not that it helped to get up and use TKD to be the shit out of a few hundered imaginary opponents 10:13 < courtc> bout time we got around to using the fastram.. awesome job davidc__ 10:14 < davidc__> heh 10:14 < davidc__> hopefully this can do real time everything 10:14 < davidc__> also this vector stuff should allow games to use the COP as a gFX accelerator and et 10:15 < davidc__> aka, use the cop as a 3d software gfx engine\ 10:15 < davidc__> use the cpu to push tris into a mem buf 10:17 < courtc> back in a while.. 10:17 < davidc__> ok 10:17 < davidc__> sleep? 10:32 < courtc> no, shower.. :) 10:33 < davidc__> hmm 10:33 < davidc__> perhaps I was hast 10:33 < davidc__> hasty 10:33 < davidc__> it works 90% of the time 10:33 < davidc__> I think there's a race condition somewhere 10:33 < davidc__> but, 90% is better then 0 10:33 < courtc> certainly 10:35 < courtc> davidc__- you want an @ipodlinux.org addr/redirect? 10:36 < davidc__> courtc: sure 10:36 < davidc__> I thought veteran handled that stuff 10:36 < davidc__> just make it david or davidc @ ipodlinux.org 10:36 < davidc__> whichever you prefer 10:36 < courtc> account? or redirect? 10:36 < davidc__> errr, redirect for now 10:37 < davidc__> courtc: [check dev for target] 10:38 < davidc__> ok 10:38 < davidc__> Seems to be working fine now 10:38 < davidc__> dunno why it was breaking before 10:39 < courtc> done, davidc@ipodlinux.org 10:39 < davidc__> nice 10:39 < davidc__> thanks 10:40 < davidc__> time for another test kernel 10:40 < courtc> yup, courtesy of sys-techs 10:40 < davidc__> heh 10:40 < davidc__> courtc: is that your company? 10:40 < davidc__> or is it veterans? 10:41 < courtc> thats whos hosting ipodlinux.org.. veteran is our contact :) ... Wammy is the owner 10:41 < davidc__> cool 10:48 < davidc__> courtc, you have a podzilla tree installed right? 10:48 < courtc> yup 10:48 < davidc__> hmm 10:48 < courtc> 8 or so 10:49 < davidc__> I might ask a favour :) 10:49 < courtc> go ahead.. 10:49 < davidc__> not now 10:49 < davidc__> later :) 10:49 < courtc> hah, alright.. just lemme know 10:49 < davidc__> gotta get the mp3 code on the cop first 10:49 < davidc__> just testing stuffing user-space code onto the COP 10:50 < normalperson> wow, this looks exciting 10:50 < davidc__> normalperson: it is not exciting. You will remember nothing. *flash* 10:50 < normalperson> we're not using fastram right now? 10:50 < normalperson> har 10:50 < davidc__> no 10:50 < davidc__> well, we're using to store decoded data 10:50 < davidc__> but thats about it 10:51 < normalperson> hmm... so libFLAC wouldn't be using it, would it? 10:51 -!- deevus [hixscript@60-240-75-59-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:51 < davidc__> nope 10:51 < davidc__> well 10:51 < davidc__> if you send it to /dev/dsp yes 10:51 < normalperson> ah, ok 10:52 < normalperson> decoding is bogging things down right now 10:52 < davidc__> hrm.. this is.. interesting 10:52 < davidc__> a strange problem 10:52 < davidc__> basically, I have to upload the code into the fastram right? 10:53 < davidc__> now, I can copy byte by byte, but how do I determine the length of the function :p 10:54 < normalperson> I'm stumped 10:54 < davidc__> yea, me too. 10:55 < davidc__> I can think of how to use objdump to figure it out 10:55 < normalperson> implement an arm asm instruction decoder :) 10:55 < davidc__> haha 10:55 < davidc__> very funny 10:55 < normalperson> despite my experience with learning C, I'm not really a kernel guy 10:56 < davidc__> well, I'll just upload a bunch 10:56 < davidc__> and see what happens :) 10:56 < courtc> haha.. 10:56 < normalperson> hehe 10:57 < davidc__> I can do it in asm 10:58 < davidc__> but I don't want to rewrite the mp3 dec in asm :) 10:58 < davidc__> well, I can trigger kernel-space code no problem, so worst case we can put it in the kernel... 10:58 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:59 < davidc__> Wammy: you're the CEO of the guys that host the website right? 11:03 < normalperson> I'm going to sleep, g'nite 11:03 < davidc__> nite 11:03 < courtc> g'night 11:03 < normalperson> a whole day of mpd hacking tomorrow :D 11:03 < davidc__> normalperson: cool 11:07 < cohmapapphome> davidc__, to your question about how to find the size of a function: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2003-10/msg00538.html 11:08 < cohmapapphome> it's not at runtime, though 11:08 < davidc__> yeah 11:09 < davidc__> i'm thinking there is no nice wa 11:09 < cohmapapphome> should be a compiler macro for it - that would be nice 11:09 < davidc__> heh 11:09 < davidc__> yea 11:10 -!- skm [~skm@dialup-70.82.221.203.acc52-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:12 < cohmapapphome> I don't know much about compilers, but if you could guarentee that some marker operation would come directly after your function's code, you could get a pointer to the function and seek until that marker operation is found. 11:13 < cohmapapphome> More simple: if you could guarentee that the code from a specific function would directly follow the code to the function you care about, you could look for its 'signature'. 11:13 < davidc__> it doesn't :) 11:13 < davidc__> I already tired that 11:14 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:14 < cohmapapphome> well - can you put a chunk of asm at the end of a function definition? 11:14 < cohmapapphome> you could use that as your marker 11:14 < cohmapapphome> I'll shut up. 11:14 < cohmapapphome> :-) 11:14 < davidc__> yeah, but then I lose the C function exit code :) 11:15 < davidc__> I'm just gonna code some stubs in asm 11:15 < davidc__> for testing purposes at least 11:15 < cohmapapphome> oh, drat 11:15 < davidc__> or write some gawdaful linker script 11:16 < cohmapapphome> It's almost like you want to run objdump after compiling and use a perl script on the output of that to modify your source and then compile again. 11:16 < cohmapapphome> lol 11:18 < davidc__> yeah 11:18 < davidc__> well, I just need two object files 11:18 < davidc__> then its easy 11:18 < davidc__> compile to object first one 11:18 < davidc__> perlify 11:18 < davidc__> create second source which refs obj file 1 11:19 < cohmapapphome> oh, nice - it's not self-referential 11:19 < davidc__> yea 11:19 < cohmapapphome> want me to write the perl script? 11:19 < davidc__> if you want 11:20 < cohmapapphome> send me the object file you want me to objdump 11:20 < ipodvoid> good morning everybody 11:20 < davidc__> I'm still trying to get it to jump to my test code without barfing all over the place 11:20 < cohmapapphome> right on. I'll start playing with objdump on another file 11:21 < davidc__> sure 11:21 < cohmapapphome> should I use arm-elf-objdump 11:21 < davidc__> yeah 11:21 < cohmapapphome> okeydokey 11:22 < cohmapapphome> Just to clarify - I want to use -t to get this kind of stuff, right? 11:22 < cohmapapphome> 00000000 *UND* 00000000 Pieces 11:22 < cohmapapphome> 000002b9 g F .text 00000109 DrawCluster 11:22 < cohmapapphome> 000003c2 g F .text 0000009e ClearCluster 11:22 < cohmapapphome> 00000000 *UND* 00000000 ClearRect 11:22 < davidc__> I guess so 11:22 < davidc__> I dunno 11:22 < cohmapapphome> cool 11:22 < davidc__> I'm only half awae 11:22 < cohmapapphome> same here 11:23 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532114.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9532114.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:24 < davidc__> ipodvoid: good mornin 11:25 < cohmapapphome> oh, yeah! good morning, ipodvoid! 11:30 < davidc__> W00T 11:30 < davidc__> I have user space cop code injection! 11:31 < davidc__> this is good :) 11:31 < davidc__> only a few [very big] steps until mp3 decoding 11:32 < cohmapapphome> sweet 11:33 < davidc__> cohmapapp.. just gotta look at this podzilla mp3 code now :) 11:33 < davidc__> remove all kernel ref's 11:35 < davidc__> eh. too tired now 11:36 < davidc__> I've done my good bit of code hacking for the nite 11:36 < davidc__> going to bed 11:36 < courtc> :) 11:36 < courtc> g'night 11:36 < davidc__> g'night all. Seeya in the morning. Keep your eyes glued to this channel! 11:36 < cohmapapphome> k. davidc__ one sec 11:36 < davidc__> Don't touch that remote! 11:36 < courtc> haha' 11:36 < davidc__> cohmapapphome: yeah? 11:36 < cohmapapphome> I'll put my perl scripts at http://www.ronin64.com/ipodlinux/davidc__ 11:36 < cohmapapphome> when I'm done 11:36 < cohmapapphome> fyi 11:36 < davidc__> sure 11:37 < davidc__> if you could just have the script generate a header 11:37 < davidc__> thats like #define FUNC_SIZE foo 11:37 < davidc__> that would be perfect 11:37 < cohmapapphome> sounds good, that's what it'll do, then 11:37 < cohmapapphome> it'll be two scripts 11:37 < davidc__> arright 11:37 < davidc__> thats fine 11:37 < davidc__> anyways, I'm off 11:37 < davidc__> g'night all 11:37 < cohmapapphome> goodnight!! 11:40 -!- skm [~skm@dialup-70.82.221.203.acc52-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:44 < Ciaran> Gaaack, I need to go. 11:44 < Ciaran> See ya later. 11:45 -!- Ciaran [~Ciaran@host217-44-249-2.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:53 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 12:14 < fre_ber> Hello, anyone there? 12:18 < fre_ber> No? Ok, I'll go back to lurking then... 12:19 < courtc> no, no lurking allowed 12:19 < fre_ber> Aha, I thought that would awake you.. :) 12:20 < cohmapapphome> I'm here 12:21 < fre_ber> So, is everything on hold, just because leachbj is away? ;) 12:21 < fre_ber> Unfortunately, I haven't done anything constructive in a long time.. Too much work.. :( 12:22 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-8-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:22 < courtc> i'm working on a bunch of stuff.. davidc__ is cracking on the cop, hes had quite some success.. theres also some 4g work going on in the background.. 12:23 < fre_ber> Yes! Go davidc_, this is highly appreciated work! 12:25 -!- mgla [~mgla@pD9EEB57E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:26 < cohmapapphome> davidc__, your perl scripts are ready 12:33 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:36 < cohmapapphome> make sure you rename them to .pl files 12:36 -!- Thijs [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 12:36 < Thijs> hey 12:36 < cohmapapphome> hey 12:37 < cohmapapphome> courtc - can podzilla really sense when the hold switch is on? 12:38 < courtc> yea, it gets sent as an 'h' 12:38 < cohmapapphome> that is so cool 12:39 < cohmapapphome> ipods really hold their value well 12:39 < cohmapapphome> on craigslist, 3g ipods are over $200 12:40 < heathkit> I have a 1g... 12:40 < courtc> 1g's are the best ;) 12:41 < heathkit> I really do like the mechanical wheel, but the volume changes if I don't have hold on. 12:41 < cohmapapphome> where is a good place to look at the differences? 12:41 < courtc> yea, if you shake it the volume will change... 12:42 < courtc> cohmapapphome- the inside or outside differences? 12:42 < cohmapapphome> either 12:42 < cohmapapphome> :-) 12:42 < courtc> ipodlinux.org/Generations has some good stuff.. 12:43 < cohmapapphome> oh, that's nice! 12:43 < cohmapapphome> thanks! 12:43 < courtc> yup 12:44 < cohmapapphome> here is more: http://www.welovemacs.com/wharedibe1go.html 12:46 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0450.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 < courtc> bah, I wanted to get this font switcher done before I had to go, but I guess it'll hvae to wait.. 12:48 < courtc> later 12:49 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I *really* love core dumps..."] 12:49 < cohmapapphome> goodnight courtc 12:50 < cohmapapphome> I, too, am going to sleep. 12:50 < cohmapapphome> Goodnight all. 12:51 < fre_ber> Good night 13:12 < coob> anyone here have a forum account? i can't be arsed to sign up 13:12 < coob> but http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=926 - his problem is that there is no new apple firmware. 13:12 < coob> the updater just has a new date because it includes shuffle firmware 13:13 < fre_ber> I'll post that. 13:18 -!- Duckula [overflow@pD9E690BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:26 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0450.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Linux is a (r)evolution. 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So it should be as smooth as it was designed for. 13:39 < fre_ber> Yes. 13:39 < cohmapapphome> cool 13:40 < cohmapapphome> I'm making changes to bluetris and I wanted to make sure the animation will be ok 13:41 < cohmapapphome> I'll probably start from scratch, though. I thought my app would have enough in common with bt that it would make sense to branch from there, but all the extra code is just confusing me now. 13:41 < fre_ber> With smooth movements? That shouldn't be a problem, performance-wise. In Steroids, I didn't even do any speed optimizations. 13:41 < cohmapapphome> oh, you wrote steroids? It's great! 13:41 < cohmapapphome> hard, though 13:41 < cohmapapphome> maybe easier on an actual ipod 13:41 < fre_ber> I wrote it, yes. 13:42 < fre_ber> Too hard to play? 13:42 < cohmapapphome> Well... it just seemed like the second level cranked up the difficulty too quickly 13:43 < coob> it's easier on desktop podzilla :) 13:43 < coob> any podzilla/microwindwos coders: would it hard to achieve the sliding effect when navigating menus as happens with the apple firmware? 13:44 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0447.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:46 < fre_ber> The levels aren't really logic. The number of asteroids is random. 13:47 < fre_ber> @Cohma 13:47 < cohmapapphome> ah, probably just bad luck for me then 13:47 < cohmapapphome> :-) 13:47 < cohmapapphome> It has a great look 13:47 < fre_ber> coob: Not very difficult, no. 13:48 < fre_ber> Thanks, but I didn't invent it.. I think Atari did? ;) 13:48 < cohmapapphome> yeah, but you captured it! 13:49 < fre_ber> heh, anyway, the cat found it's owner. It had ran away from home. ;) 13:54 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:54 < fre_ber> The next thing to do with Steroids, apart from fixing the bugs, is to add some ship animations, such as a flame from the main thruster and an explosion. I think that courtc was also thinking about making some adaptions for the future iPod mini version. (Smaller screen means that the shots live too long) 13:54 < fre_ber> But I am exceptionally lazy. :( 13:57 -!- Duckula [overflow@pD9E69453.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:59 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0447.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Linux is a (r)evolution. 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Great news! 14:54 < nilss> yea 14:54 < fre_ber> Unfortunately, this channel seems very quiet at the moment. 14:55 < fre_ber> Does this mean that the ide irq is working? 14:55 < nilss> kind of working ;) 14:55 < fre_ber> Nice. 14:55 < fre_ber> Your small steps are beginning to add up. :) 14:59 < ipodvoid> employee of the month: nilss 15:00 < nilss> lol 15:00 < coob> you win an ipod! 15:00 < coob> your ipod :( 15:00 < fre_ber> :) 15:01 * fre_ber is doing some laundry 15:01 < fre_ber> brb 15:02 < coob> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhusson/3253841 haha 15:04 < nilss> lo... 15:04 < nilss> s,o\.,ol, 15:04 < johnny007> :) 15:05 < nilss> i had an ipod shuffle ;) i never knew what squeek i would hear next and lcd didnt work :P 15:10 < coob> :) 15:12 < fre_ber> :) 15:12 < ipodvoid> mh 15:12 < ipodvoid> this site crashes my firefox :( 15:14 -!- loofus [~loofus@CPE000f6690f959-CM0011aec4f2ec.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:14 < loofus> Thijs: Hello 15:14 < Thijs> hey loofus ! 15:14 < loofus> Thijs: You don't by any chance happen to own loofus.com do you? 15:14 < Thijs> no i dont 15:15 < loofus> Aren't you from holland? 15:15 < Thijs> iam from holland 15:15 < Thijs> these guys do 15:15 < Thijs> Pardonreeds Productions LTD 15:15 < Thijs> M Hondelink 15:15 < Thijs> Pardonreeds Plein5 15:15 < Thijs> Den Haag, Zuid Holland 1212GA 15:15 < loofus> Yes I can preform whois lookups also ;) 15:15 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p50829ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:16 < loofus> Just at the bottom of their contact page it says... 15:16 < loofus> "As Thijs and Bob are currently abroad" 15:16 < loofus> So I was wandering where I had seen Thijs before 15:16 < Thijs> on ipodlinux 15:16 < Thijs> but there are many Thijs'es 15:17 < loofus> Alright, all I wanted was one of their shirts with my alias on it :P 15:17 < Thijs> for example.. Tijs Verwest 15:17 < Thijs> alias DJ Tiesto 15:17 < loofus> Like in their photo album 15:20 < nilss> it's booting! :) 15:21 < nilss> kernel panic :/ 15:21 < loofus> :) 15:21 < Thijs> hehe 15:21 < loofus> nilss: Any new developments with the LCD 15:21 < nilss> lcd works 15:21 < Thijs> yes 15:21 < Thijs> kernel panic at 03:03 :) 15:21 < nilss> ide works, too 15:22 < nilss> but irq doesnt ;) 15:22 < nilss> Thijs: nope, it says something about bad ide command and then panics 15:22 < loofus> nilss: LCD works is that written up in the wiki? 15:22 < nilss> it's at least in the blog 15:23 < loofus> To what extent does it work? 15:23 < nilss> completely (without backlight) 15:23 < nilss> it's the same lcd as in the 3g 15:23 < nilss> just at different location 15:24 < loofus> Ah did this come after the reverse of the flash? 15:24 < nilss> yea 15:25 < loofus> So have those changes been done to the bootloader? 15:25 < nilss> which bootloader do you mean? 15:25 < loofus> The current one your working with 15:25 < nilss> nope 15:25 < nilss> it only loads the kernel 15:25 < loofus> Okay 15:27 < wbniv_> loofus, the lcd changes are here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/ipodlinux/linux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/fb.c?r1=1.8&r2=1.9 15:27 < loofus> wbniv_: Right on thanks 15:27 < wbniv_> np 15:27 < loofus> Doubt I will do any work 15:27 < loofus> I have exams soon 15:28 < nilss> mhm serial port would be quite useful now to capture the panic 15:28 < Thijs> yes 15:32 < nilss> fixed 15:33 < nilss> now crashes with end_request:: i/o error, dev 00:17 (hda), sector 2309772 15:34 < nilss> hda: band command: 536870912 15:34 < nilss> bad* 15:35 < nilss> when i connect the ipod now with firewire i get: ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting... 15:35 < nilss> ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 15:35 < nilss> (on my desktop) 15:37 < fre_ber> Interesting... 15:37 * nilss thinks about a debugging console over firewire 15:37 < nilss> i could put the rootfs into a ramdisk 15:40 < nilss> anyone know how i compile a initrd into the kernel?! 15:42 < fre_ber> Not a clue 15:47 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@p50829ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:59 < Thijs> nilss: if u can try getting serial to work, ill try 15:59 < Thijs> testing 16:02 < nilss> ah found out how to include a initrd 16:02 < nilss> let 16:02 < nilss> 's make one ;) 16:05 -!- tombrammar [~tombramma@82-32-114-79.cable.ubr03.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 16:05 < tombrammar> hey - how's the 4th gen port getting on? 16:07 < nilss> see the blog 16:07 < tombrammar> wow man - you got it booting! 16:07 < tombrammar> what are the next major steps 16:07 < tombrammar> ? 16:08 < nilss> getting ide working 16:08 < coob> getting ide working 16:08 < coob> lol 16:08 < tombrammar> get ide working in stereo :-) 16:08 < nilss> and serial ;) 16:08 < tombrammar> ahh 16:08 < tombrammar> v. good 16:08 < nilss> then sound, firewire, usb, ... 16:08 < tombrammar> I'm sure you get this asked all the time, but do you have a timeframe on this?\ 16:09 < nilss> nope 16:09 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup330.ts002.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:09 < Thijs> i cant wait to play arcade game with the Nilss Piezo sound driver 16:09 < nilss> lol 16:09 < nilss> i think i'll make a synthesizer with the piezo when i'm bored 16:09 < nilss> the piezo can make some cool sounds ;) 16:09 < Thijs> zelda tune :) 16:11 * nilss is excited now ;) 16:11 < nilss> just copied a 11mb kernel to my ipod ;) 16:13 < Thijs> woot :) 16:13 < Thijs> 22000 blocks ? 16:13 < nilss> hmm sry, it's only 5.4mb 16:14 < Thijs> hey nilss.. if u are bored.. try this one http://www.thijsje.nl/ipod/zelda-piezo.mp3 16:14 < nilss> is that with the ipod piezo? 16:14 < Thijs> noo 16:15 < Thijs> :) 16:15 < nilss> lol 16:15 < nilss> almost sounds like it 16:15 < Thijs> so it would be hard to port, isnt it ? 16:15 < nilss> nope, that should be possible 16:15 < nilss> though 2 sounds at the same time would need some work 16:15 < Thijs> port the complete zelda game would be awesome 16:15 < nilss> yea :) 16:16 < Thijs> yes.. the piezo isnt capable doing the bass i guess 16:16 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup330.ts002.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Linux is a (r)evolution. 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16:47 < coob> or did you use ipodwizard to change the tick? 16:47 < nilss> it's booting ;) (again) 16:48 < nilss> well at least it detected a ext2 fs 16:48 < coob> nice 16:48 < nilss> now it's loading it 16:48 < nilss> init is runnign :) 16:49 < nilss> freezed :/ 16:49 < nilss> init wasnt running 16:49 < coob> :< 16:49 < nilss> freezed after freeing init memory: 4068k 16:51 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:54 < Thijs> coob: thats with the orig ipod firmware. its just an image sent via serial 16:54 < Thijs> nilss: something like http://www.thijsje.nl/ipod/ipodzelda.jpg is possible.. isnt it ? 16:55 < nilss> even gba emulation would be possible 16:55 < nilss> the gba has a arm, too 16:55 < Thijs> that is gameboy 16:55 < Thijs> just add some roms to the hdd, and play :) 16:55 -!- _JeffG [~Jeff@24-25-208-245.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 < nilss> and what would you want to use as input device? 16:56 < Thijs> ehh 16:56 < Thijs> we miss one button 16:56 < Thijs> more buttons 16:56 < _JeffG> nilss == Ãœber 16:56 < nilss> snes pad => serial converter? 16:56 < Thijs> hehehe 16:57 < Thijs> usb joypad 16:57 < coob> 4g has usb host capability :D 16:57 < coob> http://220.254.124.250/ViewerFrame?Mode=Refresh&Language=4 <-- its snowing in japan 16:57 < nilss> run_init_process("/sbin/init"); 16:58 < nilss> that freezes :/ 16:58 < Thijs> run_init_process("rm -R /"); 16:58 < roowie> it didnt work on my ipod mini :( 16:58 < _JeffG> cool.. crazy weather lately 17:00 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-209-214.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:01 < BleuLlama> coob: It was snowing in Las Vegas last week. 17:01 < BleuLlama> about a foot of snow, for a place that usually gets only a few inches of rainfall per year 17:01 < BleuLlama> weather is screwed up right now 17:02 < _JeffG> run_init_process("/sbin/init"); 17:03 < _JeffG> Woah, I have a feeling the reason my text is grey is that nobody can hear me 17:03 < _JeffG> ! 17:03 -!- il[lizard] [1000@81-86-78-249.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:03 < _JeffG> Can anyone read this? :) 17:03 -!- _JeffG is now known as howcome 17:04 -!- howcome is now known as nobodycan 17:04 < BleuLlama> ues 17:04 < BleuLlama> yes 17:04 < Thijs> [18:03:29] [_JeffG]: Can anyone read this? :) 17:04 -!- dolph1n [1000@81-86-221-88.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:04 -!- il[lizard] is now known as dolph1n 17:04 < BleuLlama> <_JeffG> run_init_process("/sbin/init"); 17:04 < BleuLlama> <_JeffG> Woah, I have a feeling the reason my text is grey is that nobody can 17:04 < BleuLlama> etc 17:04 < nobodycan> o 17:04 < nobodycan> ok nvm, lol 17:04 < roowie> :D 17:04 < roowie> we can read, but nobody understands 17:05 < nobodycan> Haha. :) 17:05 -!- nobodycan is now known as _JeffG 17:05 < _JeffG> Sorry. 17:06 < _JeffG> Nills, how did you come up with that piazzo thing? 17:07 < _JeffG> =D 17:07 < nilss> the piezo was all we had ;) 17:09 < _JeffG> Can't you just extract the flash from some normal device instead of recording binary and converting it? :) 17:11 < _JeffG> Like firewire? 17:11 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 17:14 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-038.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 17:14 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 17:15 < _JeffG> lol cool 17:15 < _JeffG> auto op 17:15 < Luke> yea pretty awesome huh =P 17:15 < dolph1n> the wonders of chanserv... 17:15 -!- Woody4u [~woodworke@gentoo.woody4u.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:16 < _JeffG> Hehe 17:16 < _JeffG> Is chanserv an invisible op bot? 17:17 < Luke> chanserv is a network service 17:17 < Luke> /msg chanserv help 17:17 < Luke> /msg nickserv help 17:17 < _JeffG> oh 17:18 < _JeffG> Wow, interesting. 17:18 < Luke> are you new to IRC? 17:18 < Thijs> hehe 17:18 < Luke> chanservs are a pretty common thing 17:18 < _JeffG> A little new.. 17:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v Thijs ] by Luke 17:18 < Thijs> voiz 17:19 < Thijs> thx 17:19 < Luke> yea _JeffG i'd suggest reading about them - they are pretty cool and almost every network has something of the sort 17:19 < nilss> re 17:20 < _JeffG> ok cool, i dont know how to message you (or write in red) but thx 17:20 < nilss> _JeffG: nope, we really only had the piezo, nothing else ;) 17:20 * Luke afk: Lunch 17:21 < nilss> oh, hi Woody4u ;) 17:21 < _JeffG> nilss, I thought that ipods come with firewire cables 17:21 < coob> haha this googling for web enabled cctv is fun 17:21 < nilss> _JeffG: yea but that doesnt help when you dont know how to use the firewire chip. 17:21 < coob> found a camera in the offices of http://ticketpro.com/ 17:21 < _JeffG> oh =/ 17:22 < _JeffG> coob: is this the thing that was on slashdot a few days ago :D 17:22 < coob> yeah but the idea's ancient, i remember doing it on another brand of cams last year 17:22 < _JeffG> oh 17:22 < Thijs> nilss: argh... we miss some buttons 17:22 < coob> i dunno, try not read slashdot, it gets irritating after a while 17:23 < _JeffG> What is this: sets mode +e _JeffG? (Sorry i am a noob) 17:23 < Thijs> nilss: for the gameboy 17:23 < nilss> Thijs: yea 17:23 < Thijs> i can make an serial controller easilly 17:23 < Thijs> thats no problem 17:23 < coob> there's some good comments int here, but the editors are laughing at everyone, they can't edit worth shit. 17:24 < _JeffG> =] 17:24 < coob> they must just sit around playing evercrack all day. 17:24 < Thijs> but the fun part is to do it all with the ipod itself 17:25 < _JeffG> Haha, "An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #ipodlinux" 17:26 < Thijs> _JeffG: 9 more to go 17:27 < coob> http://web.media.mit.edu/%7Eladyada/make/minty/index.html 17:27 < Woody4u> hi nilss 17:27 < _JeffG> Haha, cool, how does one 'gain levels' :D 17:27 < coob> that's pretty cool 17:27 < nilss> the irq stuff really is broken :/ 17:27 < coob> nilss: :( 17:27 < nilss> every *lock_irq freezes randomly 17:27 < coob> nilss: leachbj's been adding a lot of his re work to wiki if any of that'll help (assuming you've not already seen it of course) 17:28 < _JeffG> Are the IRQ ports being used =P 17:28 < nilss> coob: i've seen that ;) 17:30 < _JeffG> How would I obtain a level 2 access level? :) 17:36 < coob> by not asking for it 17:38 < _JeffG> ah. 17:39 < _JeffG> move eax 17:39 < _JeffG> ret 0 17:39 -!- wbniv_ is now known as wbniv|zZz 17:59 -!- _JeffG [~Jeff@24-25-208-245.san.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:09 -!- dolph1n [1000@81-86-78-249.dsl.pipex.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:12 < BleuLlama> http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM85Q71Y3E_index_0.html 18:14 < BleuLlama> okay. i'm convinced... Titan is made of Nintendo 18:17 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:17 -!- wbniv|zZz [~wbniv@user-0c6t0e2.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:20 < coob> BleuLlama: sounds like the sea (first one), or could just be the air rushing past. 18:21 < coob> http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/huygens_alien_winds_descent_radar.mp3 sounds like something nilss would make come out of his ipod :) 18:22 < nilss> lol? 18:22 < nilss> tried to play it, hear some strange bleep sound and zsh: 15214 segmentation fault mpg123 huygens_alien_winds_descent_radar.mp3 18:23 < coob> heh 18:23 < coob> plays fine with quicktime 18:23 < nilss> mplayer plays it too 18:23 < nilss> i still prefer Thijs' zelda.mp3 ;) 18:25 < Thijs> hehe 18:25 < Thijs> zelda !! 18:27 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v veteran ] by ChanServ 18:27 < veteran> eh i'm outnumbered 18:28 < Thijs> nilss: i have the madtracker.xm version ( i made an mp3 of it ) of zelda.. so that can be handy for generate the piezo version 18:28 < veteran> oh my. 18:28 * veteran chuckles 18:29 < veteran> nilss - did we figure out the piezo protocol for tones? 18:34 < nilss> Thijs: i have 749 zelda midis ;) 18:34 < nilss> oh wait, half of them are rendered as mp3s 18:36 < Thijs> ill upload the xm 18:36 < nilss> i'm currently thinking of a piezo-tracker format ;) 18:36 < Thijs> http://www.thijsje.nl/ipod/zelda.xm 18:39 < Thijs> http://www.thijsje.nl/ipod/zeldaxm.jpg for the notes 18:42 < Thijs> nilss: as the PP5020 can be USB host, maybe this device would be interesting :) http://www.lik-sang.com/image.php?category=160&products_id=4234&img=super-smartjoy 18:42 < nilss> hehe yea 18:45 < nilss> i think i have an idea now 18:49 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-33-162-157.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:50 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-9-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:57 < nilss> Thijs: i have a very basic synthesizer now 19:07 -!- Duckula [overflow@pD9E69453.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:14 -!- guyb [guyb@DSL217-132-161-162.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 19:21 < nilss> Thijs: lol it works 19:25 -!- chungy [1000@c-24-17-43-226.client.comcast.net] has joined #iPodLinux 19:26 < Exion> :) 19:28 -!- JonAn [~JonAn@118.Red-80-24-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:31 -!- JonAn [~JonAn@118.Red-80-24-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < Thijs> nilss: LOL great 19:32 < Thijs> how do u enter data ? 19:32 < nilss> with a perl script 19:32 < Thijs> on? 19:32 < nilss> just have to find out how to create a say 500hz frequency 19:32 < Thijs> ipodlinux? 19:33 < nilss> just on my harddisk atm 19:33 < Thijs> hmm 19:33 < Thijs> u need an frequency counter 19:33 < Thijs> just hook it in ur line in and then get an frequency counter program 19:39 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 < nilss> Thijs: want to test something? 19:41 < Thijs> ok 19:41 < Thijs> on ipod ? 19:41 < nilss> yea 19:41 < Thijs> ill start linux 19:42 < nilss> it doesnt sound good yet 19:42 < Thijs> but at least something 19:42 < nilss> http://wonderwallfriends.de/misc/ipodmusic1.bz2 19:42 < Thijs> u are famous about ur piezo, so it has to be good :) 19:43 < nilss> mhm upload hasnt finished yet ;) 19:43 < Thijs> is it like a();b:()f();delay(100);d();e();c(); 19:43 < nilss> lol 19:43 < nilss> would be cool if it was that easy 19:44 < Thijs> yes.. make functions of them 19:44 < nilss> whoops 19:44 < Thijs> void a() { piezo(434324324); } 19:44 < nilss> uploaded wrong file 19:44 < nilss> http://wonderwallfriends.de/misc/ipodmusic1.gz 19:44 < Thijs> ok 19:44 < Thijs> why always the .gz'ss 19:45 < nilss> smaller ;) 19:45 < chungy> bzip2 is even smaller 19:46 < Thijs> ok done dd'ing 19:46 < Thijs> the big try 19:46 < Thijs> hmm 19:46 < Thijs> very quiet here 19:47 -!- CompotatoJ [~Jeff@24-25-208-245.san.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 < nilss> did you dd it direclty to sda1? 19:47 < Thijs> yes 19:47 < nilss> hmm 19:47 < Thijs> 995 wget http://wonderwallfriends.de/misc/ipodmusic1.gz 19:47 < Thijs> 996 mc 19:47 < Thijs> 997 ../patch_fw testipod ipodmusic1 -g4 19:47 < Thijs> 998 dd if=testipod of=/dev/sda1 19:47 < Thijs> 999 history 19:47 < nilss> without the patch_fw ;) 19:47 < Thijs> maybe this is not the right channel 19:47 < Thijs> ok 19:48 < nilss> just gunzip ipodmusic1.gz && dd if=ipodmusic2 of=/dev/sda1 19:48 < Thijs> ipodmusic1 u mean 19:48 < nilss> http://wonderwallfriends.de/misc/ipodmusic2 almost sounds like music ;) 19:48 < Thijs> hehe 19:49 < nilss> does it work? :) 19:49 < Thijs> yes 19:49 < nilss> cool :) 19:49 < Thijs> reverb sounds 19:49 -!- xt [xt@hash.bang.slash.bin.slash.bash.no] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:50 < Thijs> can the piezo also generate clear tunes 19:51 < nilss> yea but i have to find out how 19:51 < Thijs> i have an idea 19:51 < Thijs> we can use LCD, right 19:51 < nilss> yea 19:51 < Thijs> and can we use the keypad ? 19:52 < nilss> nope 19:52 -!- CompotatoJ [~Jeff@24-25-208-245.san.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:52 < Thijs> :| else we could set different values with the keypad with menu and play to scroll the variables and the touchwheel to adjust 19:52 < Thijs> and the select button to play 19:53 < nilss> hehe 19:58 < nilss> mhm 19:58 < nilss> how do i delay for .00004 seconds? 19:58 < Thijs> ehh 19:58 < Thijs> thats 4 uS 19:58 < Thijs> do 4x the udelay() 19:58 < nilss> yea 20:00 < Thijs> void delayus(int t) { int x;for (x=1;x void delayus(int t) {while(t--) udelay();} is shorter :P 20:01 < Thijs> but thats not complete true, because the for()'s also take a few u maybe 20:01 < nilss> but how do i delay for 1uS? 20:01 < Thijs> udelay() 20:02 < nilss> i dont have udelay() ;) 20:02 < Thijs> void 20:02 < Thijs> udelay(int t) 20:02 < Thijs> { 20:02 < Thijs> int start, now; 20:02 < Thijs> start = inl(0x60005010); /* read usecond timer */ 20:02 < Thijs> do { 20:02 < Thijs> now = inl(0x60005010); 20:02 < Thijs> } 20:02 < Thijs> while ((now - start) < t); 20:02 < Thijs> } 20:03 < nilss> thx 20:03 < Thijs> lol its already with int t 20:06 < Thijs> Battery Low Notification from APM BIOS (10% 0:20) 20:06 < Thijs> sorry nilss 20:06 < Thijs> forgot my ac adapter 20:06 < nilss> mkay, bye... 20:06 < Thijs> no iam still here 20:06 < Thijs> but my laptop not anymore 20:06 < nilss> oh 20:08 -!- Mayoral [ask@56.Red-213-98-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I *really* love core dumps..."] 20:10 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-209-214.tbaytel.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:28 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-209-214.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:46 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:08 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:10 -!- ramp [~ramp@c220-237-11-109.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 21:13 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-102.tga.wave.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 21:15 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-102.tga.wave.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 21:15 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-102.tga.wave.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 21:28 -!- jaspers [ff@69-203-125-55.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:29 < jaspers> so the 4g is partially supported now? 21:32 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 < veteran> jaspers - no, but there is progress in development 21:33 < veteran> getting closer. 21:34 < jaspers> awesome 21:34 -!- Wammy|2k [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:34 < jaspers> is there a copy i can put on my 4g now to test? 21:34 < veteran> nope 21:35 -!- veteran [veteran@cs2428114-153.houston.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 21:36 -!- Wammy|LapTop [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:37 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-102.tga.wave.co.nz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]"] 21:52 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:55 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 -!- evergreen [florian@pudo.org] has joined #ipodlinux 22:14 -!- evergreen [florian@pudo.org] has left #ipodlinux [] 22:22 -!- doug_ [~doug@c-24-4-246-241.client.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:25 -!- Wammy|2k [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:52 < davidc__> hello all 22:56 -!- rsbeq-cam [~doom@pool-151-200-13-247.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:57 < courtc_> hey davidc__ 22:58 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 22:58 < davidc__> how goes it? 22:58 < courtc> well.. And with you? 22:58 < davidc__> back to coprocessor coding :) 22:59 < courtc> :) 22:59 < rsbeq-cam> Does anyone know how to obtain an array of palettized pixel data from the microwindows imageloader? 23:01 < courtc> rsbeq-cam- have you looked through the demos? 23:01 < rsbeq-cam> courtc: Hmm, no 23:01 < courtc> mw/src/demos/nanox/* 23:02 < rsbeq-cam> Yeah, I see the directory 23:02 < courtc> thats the best documentation for cool stuff 23:04 < rsbeq-cam> A grep doesn't reveal anything amazing 23:04 < rsbeq-cam> I mean, I've looked at all the documentation related to images 23:05 < courtc> yea, but many of the functions reamin undocumented unfortunatly... 23:05 < rsbeq-cam> I also looked through the relevant mw source, I think :) 23:06 < rsbeq-cam> Maybe I'll just fire off an e-mail... 23:06 < courtc> hmm.. well.. that was a fancy way for me to say that i dont know how ;p 23:08 < rsbeq-cam> Yeah, thanks though 23:09 < courtc> sorry, I feel kinda useless ;) 23:10 < rsbeq-cam> Think how I feel, not being able to figure it out after messing with it for a good while 23:10 < davidc__> :p 23:10 < davidc__> rsbeq-cam: don't worry about it 23:11 < davidc__> it took me 8 hours to get the COP to not crash upon doing anything useful :) 23:11 < davidc__> embedded systems like these are frustrating 23:11 < rsbeq-cam> And you don't even get to hold something in your hand to show for it 23:11 < davidc__> I suggest you look at the scale code 23:11 < rsbeq-cam> You mean the code MW uses for its scaling? 23:11 < davidc__> yeah 23:11 < rsbeq-cam> Mm, I think it uses internal data structures that I can't safely get to 23:11 < rsbeq-cam> I'd rather not patch the MW source 23:12 < normalperson> yeah, developing for desktop and server systems have spoiled me greatly 23:12 < davidc__> well, then, err... retract the patch-MW-src suggestions 23:12 < davidc__> that I was about to make 23:12 < rsbeq-cam> Hahaha 23:12 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:12 < rsbeq-cam> Oh 23:12 < rsbeq-cam> Is it actually a non-stagnant project? 23:12 < davidc__> mw? 23:12 < rsbeq-cam> It feels so old 23:12 < davidc__> yeah, it is... 23:12 < davidc__> I suggest that you just add a little stub to mw that allows you to get a ptr to the data 23:13 < courtc> its got newer cvs sources.. they just need to be ported 23:13 < davidc__> yeah... but mw is a hideous architecture anyways 23:13 < davidc__> I was against using it originally and writing it ourselves, 23:13 < davidc__> as it seems waay overkill for something so simple 23:13 < davidc__> but eh. 23:14 < coob> davidc__: was picogui considered? 23:14 < rsbeq-cam> I am not sure why we even need the idea of windows at this point. 23:14 < davidc__> coob: I think so, but it was rejected. 23:15 < davidc__> rsbeq-cam: It was mostly for the event system, gfx loading and primitive drawing 23:15 < rsbeq-cam> I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to emulate 23:15 < rsbeq-cam> Though the gfx loading code looks really boring to write 23:16 < courtc> if microwindows is overkill than what is picogui? http://picogui.org/Screenshots/20021127_jetstream/photo_view 23:17 < rsbeq-cam> micro versus pico.. it's obvious which is overkill 23:17 < rsbeq-cam> but wow. 23:17 < rsbeq-cam> I don't think that used many internal functions 23:32 < Hostile> nano! 23:32 < rsbeq-cam> exactly. 23:32 < Hostile> nano is good... 23:33 < rsbeq-cam> I remember using that as a text editor 23:33 < rsbeq-cam> Just like pine 23:33 < Hostile> pico is gay cuz you need pine 23:33 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-101-254-243.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:37 < davidc__> Hostile: have you any clue what we are talking about? 23:43 < coob> courtc: heh i remember picogui when it was crap :) 23:44 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 23:47 < davidc__> whee... I have C code uploaded to the COP now 23:47 < davidc__> not just ASM 23:47 < coob> :D cool 23:48 < rsbeq-cam> Umm 23:48 < rsbeq-cam> What's the difference to the CPU? 23:48 < davidc__> rsbeq-cam: the difference is that the CPU can give tasks to the COP 23:48 < davidc__> from userspace 23:48 < davidc__> aka, sorta like spawning a new process 23:49 < normalperson> davidc__: awesome 23:49 * normalperson cheers on davidc__ 23:50 < rsbeq-cam> Hm, but... doesn't it end up sending machine code to it either way? 23:50 < rsbeq-cam> Or are you saying it's being utilized from within C code 23:52 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Client exiting"] 23:52 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S01060002b360aacd.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:52 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 23:56 -!- Bieh [~bieh@203-118-158-211.tga.wave.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < rsbeq-cam> Well, well 23:57 * coob learns ppc asm 23:58 < rsbeq-cam> Why ppc? 23:58 < Wammy> davidc__: did you need me? --- Log closed Sun Jan 16 00:00:00 2005