--- Log opened Sun Jan 02 00:00:02 2005 00:01 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p213.54.153.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 00:05 < mxpxpod> ok, back to hacking on coaster 00:06 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-121.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 00:07 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-121.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has left #ipodlinux ["Bye"] 00:07 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-121.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 00:09 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- macpod [~Jeff@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v macpod ] by ChanServ 00:30 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p213.54.153.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Client Quit] 00:30 -!- macpod [~Jeff@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:31 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["<+phlange> i said 'dhcp' and the tech support guy started to cry and go 'i hate my job i hate my job i hate my job'"] 00:41 < Luke> veteran: you here? 00:45 < normalperson> can anybody tell me what the LDRLS instruction does? the ARM ASM references I have don't seem to be helping 00:46 < normalperson> nm 00:46 < normalperson> conditional execution 00:47 * normalperson smacks head 00:48 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:50 < coob> normalperson: did you see that whitepaper on optimising the mp3 deocoding algorithm for arm? 00:51 < normalperson> coob: not that I recall 00:51 < coob> http://www.13thmonkey.org/documentation/misc/mp3_wp.pdf 00:52 < coob> thought it may in some way be useful to your flac optimisations... I don't know though. 00:52 < normalperson> my main problem seems to be one loop 00:54 -!- Optonica [~a@h248n1fls35o1107.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:58 < normalperson> coob: hmm.. not too useful :/ 00:58 < coob> :, 01:01 < normalperson> ARM asm is pretty sweet compared to the only other asm I've worked with (CUSP, way back in the day) 01:06 -!- Nux [Nux@c-149171d5.03-59-73746f19.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ipodlinux 01:06 < Nux> Hello 01:06 < Jonas_NZ> hi Nux 01:07 < Nux> Can I ask things about ipodlinuz here? 01:07 < Jonas_NZ> yeah 01:08 < Nux> Is there any program avalible that enables writing things on your iPod? 01:09 < Jonas_NZ> i dont think so due to the lack of text input capabilities of the ipod 01:09 < coob> search for vip on the forums 01:10 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=422&highlight=vip 01:10 < coob> there. 01:10 < Nux> Danke 01:14 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0858.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:14 < piratePenguin> courtc: figure that track thing out? 01:18 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0858.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:18 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0858.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:22 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0858.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:36 < Luke> Nux: there is a program called sash which allows you to enter characters into your ipod 01:39 < coob> sash is a shell rather than a text editor though 01:43 < Luke> right 01:43 < Luke> he didnt ask for a text editor 01:43 < Luke> he asked to be able to write stuff 01:43 < Luke> which is exactly what it does 01:51 < coob> he didn't ask for a shell either, vip is probably more suited to his needs than a shell. 01:55 -!- mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has quit ["Everybody's got a baby kangaroo, yours is pink but mine is blue"] 02:01 < Luke> vip? 02:04 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:04 -!- Jonas_NZ` [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-56-209.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:05 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:05 < coob> http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=422&highlight=vip 02:06 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:10 < normalperson> just wondering, anybody in Southern California? 02:17 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-144-121.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:19 -!- Jonas_NZ` is now known as Jonas_NZ 02:28 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-56-209.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:38 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-55-154.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 02:49 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-55-154.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:53 < Nux> Do i have to have sash to start vip? 02:59 < coob> read that forum post 02:59 < coob> i think you do yes. 02:59 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-20.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 03:29 -!- Nux [Nux@c-149171d5.03-59-73746f19.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:37 -!- Luke [~blindspy@24-55-243-149.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 04:06 -!- nilss [nils@pD95D31BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:06 -!- nilss_ [nils@pD958CA7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:06 -!- nilss_ is now known as nilss 04:07 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:08 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:13 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:17 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:17 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:20 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-20.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:38 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-253.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 04:58 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Insufficient pants error."] 05:03 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup108.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:04 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:05 -!- macpod [~Jeff@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:05 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup108.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v macpod ] by ChanServ 05:07 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:08 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 05:08 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:13 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Upgrading irssi"] 05:14 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 05:36 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:36 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 05:51 -!- Toad [nobody@h0030bd91835f.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:53 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:59 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["building new irssi with perl this time :)"] 06:09 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:13 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:17 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:17 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 06:28 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:28 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 06:28 -!- jholdt [~email@c-24-4-19-128.client.comcast.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:31 -!- Jonas_NZ` [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-56-206.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:32 < jholdt> i realise this is way off topic but since some of y'all are embedded hardware hackers i figured it might be worth a try: i've got this pocketpc that i tried to install linux on awhile back and now its functionally equivilent to a brick... any ideas on how i might be able to revive it? its a casio cassiopeia e-200 06:33 < jholdt> it connects via usbheya jonas 06:33 < jholdt> *heya jonas 06:33 < Jonas_NZ`> Heya 06:33 < Jonas_NZ`> i desperately need some help, my qt apps are all playing up look at http://jbergler.mizer.net/snapshot1.png 06:33 < Jonas_NZ`> i have reinstall qt and it didnt fix 06:35 < jholdt> even a hard reboot on this pocketpc does nothing... i figure that means i overwrote the boot loader with garbage 06:36 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-253.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:36 < macpod> when you connect via usb, how does it show up on your comp? 06:37 -!- Jonas_NZ` is now known as Jonas_NZ 06:38 < jholdt> using windows, it shows up as "usb device"... which is normal cuz there's no driver for it, it just connects via activesync 06:39 < macpod> before you did this did the installer save a backup image of the firmware? 06:40 < jholdt> yeah, but that was ages ago, i dont have it anymore 06:40 < jholdt> i followed this guide: http://www.cfar.umd.edu/~arvind/linuxonipaq.htm 06:40 < jholdt> bootblaster indeed... 06:40 < jholdt> :P 06:40 < Jonas_NZ> so reflash it with a different boot loader, for linux 06:41 < jholdt> how? 06:41 < macpod> plug it back into your comp 06:42 < macpod> then reflash the backup you made 06:43 < jholdt> i dont have the backup anymore 06:43 < macpod> why did you get rid of it? 06:44 < macpod> and do you have a firmware updater for the device? 06:44 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 06:44 < macpod> get it from the manufacturer 06:44 < macpod> use that to reflash it 06:45 < jholdt> i was just thinking that 06:45 < jholdt> but i bet the firmware update requires activesync on the ppc, thus an ppc os 06:46 < macpod> doubt it 06:46 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:46 < macpod> that would be a pretty crappy design 06:47 < jholdt> that guide i used required an app written for ppc os to reflash the boot sector 06:48 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:48 < macpod> pocket pc or power pc? 06:48 < jholdt> pocket pc 06:48 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup233.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 < macpod> which ipaq model do you have? 06:50 < jholdt> not even an ipaq, it's a casio cassiopeia e-200 06:50 < macpod> mm 06:50 < macpod> probably why linux did not install 06:50 < jholdt> hehe, thats what i figured 06:50 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@219-88-56-206.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:51 < coob> macpod: is that you playing the guitar on your recording sample? 06:51 < macpod> hells no 06:52 < macpod> I do not have a guitar 06:52 < macpod> and if I did it would be in tune :) 06:52 < macpod> but that is not a bad guitar solo, check the forums 06:52 < macpod> buzzsawmusic.com 06:52 < macpod> that is they guy who did it 06:52 < macpod> or rather his site 06:52 < macpod> i think 06:52 < macpod> something buzzsaw 06:53 < coob> i wasn't going to mention it being out of tune heh 06:53 < macpod> jholdt 06:53 < macpod> http://www.casio.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=support.content&page=/support/software/casssoftware.html 06:54 < jholdt> yeah, that one on the top looks promising 06:55 < jholdt> :-/ the updater requires activesync... that sounds like bad news 06:56 < macpod> on your pc 06:56 < macpod> not your ppc 06:56 < jholdt> yeah 06:56 -!- Toad [nobody@h0030bd91835f.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 06:56 < coob> hmm country music is quite good. until they start singing. 06:57 < macpod> that's a purely subjective statement you just made :P 06:57 < jholdt> but i wouldn't think activesync would have capabilities beyond the scope of file transfer with the activesync app on the other side of the usb cable 06:57 < macpod> just try it 06:57 < jholdt> already doing it 06:57 < macpod> you dont have anything to loose do you? :P 06:57 < jholdt> nope 06:58 < macpod> except for a new paperweight 06:59 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-110.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ipodlinux 06:59 < jholdt> yup... the firmware update is just another goddamn activesync-installed app 06:59 < macpod> call the company 07:00 < macpod> the device should have something hardwired into it for cases like this 07:00 < macpod> but I do not know of it 07:00 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:00 < jholdt> i called them sometime back, they basically said "send it to puerto rico for $100 and it might come back working" 07:00 < macpod> heh 07:02 < jholdt> firmware updates should not be done through activesync :P 07:02 < macpod> indeed not 07:02 < jholdt> maybe they figured they could make another $100 every time some shmuck kills their firmware if they dont allow them to easily clean it up 07:02 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit ["" the GPL doesn't support hazing""] 07:03 < macpod> lol 07:03 < jholdt> well... i guess i've got a copy of the firmware in the form of this firmware update... i wonder if there's another way to get it installed :-/ 07:03 < jholdt> probably not 07:04 < Jonas_NZ> you could try and see if the chip is removable, then put it in a working one after its been switched on 07:06 < jholdt> or i could sell this one on ebay for $30 then get a nice $30 paperweight 07:07 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup233.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:10 < coob> ask someone with a similar ipaq for a copy of their bootsector? 07:10 < coob> or whatever you need 07:11 < Jonas_NZ> its not the getting the firmware, its the flashing part thats the prob 07:11 < jholdt> hrm... yup... so this firmware update sends "PPCUP300.cab" which contains a couple files that start with "MZ" which i figure means they're PPC OS executables.. 07:11 < jholdt> there's another cab inside... which has still more executables 07:12 < jholdt> only a few though, not nearly enough to be the os, probably just installer apps 07:12 < Jonas_NZ> any1 got any ideas on how to fix this: http://jbergler.mizer.net/snapshot1.png 07:13 < jholdt> now ive got a few files inside the cab in the cab that look like complete jibberish :-/ no file header, nothin... 07:13 < jholdt> er, none that i recognise anyhow 07:15 < jholdt> 6 files, 12.8MB :-/ that seems like it could be pocketpc os.. 07:15 < jholdt> coreapps.004, browsing.002, 024mapps.005, 24MCON~1.006, 000shell.007, 0000sync.003 07:16 < jholdt> images of different sections of the system probly.. 07:17 < jholdt> heh, too bad nobody uses cassiopeias... if i had an ipaq i could probably find someone who knew how to fix my brick 07:18 < jholdt> there are 3 places in the world where i can get my cassiopeia fixed 07:22 < jholdt> hrm.... well.... if windows is recognising it at all that must mean there's some generic system in place for communication between my computer and the ppc i figure... 07:23 < jholdt> i'm kinda doubting it'd facilitate firmware upgrade though, since they use activesync for firmware upgrade 07:28 < coob> Jonas_NZ: buy a mac :D 07:28 < coob> i dunno, check your locale/lng settings? 07:28 < coob> lang 07:29 < Jonas_NZ> :P :? :/ too poor, ive tried 07:31 < jholdt> is there a way i could probe around to see if i can get my ppc to communicate in some way? 07:32 < jholdt> that may sound silly, but i'm just trying to figure out if there's any way of communicating to anything besides activesync on the ppc 07:36 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:36 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 07:38 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:50 < jholdt> i have now made that last little hop from stupid to completely retarded... my excuse is "it seemed like a good idea at the time" 07:52 < courtc> heh 07:53 < courtc> macpod, could you test a podzilla bin for me? 07:53 < jholdt> yeah, so i popped open my pocketpc 07:54 < jholdt> actually, i guess i did pretty well, nothing appears broken and it sounds like its working as much as it was before i opened it 07:55 < jholdt> heh, the touch screen is made by sharp 07:56 < jholdt> samsung... that sounds like the memory 08:00 < courtc> is that a guess? samsung makes alot.. http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_index.jsp?eUser= 08:00 < jholdt> hmm.. easily swappable... anybody else got a casio pocketpc? :) 08:01 < Jonas_NZ> its it an EPROM chip? got a camera, take photos and post em sumwhere 08:01 < Jonas_NZ> i can giv ya ftp if you want 08:01 < jholdt> sure 08:02 < Jonas_NZ> ftp.jbergler.mizer.net User: ipodlinux Password: ipodlinux 08:02 < Jonas_NZ> its the in http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/ 08:03 < courtc> woohoo, unlimited ftp! 08:03 < Jonas_NZ> theres 50mb storage 08:04 < Jonas_NZ> and i dont use it at all so 08:05 < jholdt> okeydokey, got the camera now 08:08 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:08 -!- ChaosKnight [~ChaosKnig@205.240.68.3] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:08 < piratePenguin> courtc: did you look at that stuff for me? 08:10 < courtc> piratePenguin, naw, I lost the urls when I changed distros :/ 08:11 < piratePenguin> heh 08:11 < piratePenguin> I dont have them either.. but, I hepe they're under recent pastes 08:11 < piratePenguin> s/hepe/hope/ :@ 08:12 < jholdt> and a few crappy pictures later... i'm back 08:16 < jholdt> hrm 08:16 < jholdt> auth failed 08:16 < Jonas_NZ> hmm 08:16 < piratePenguin> mp3.c: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9lm2y571.html itunesmenu.c: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RYcris83.html 08:17 < piratePenguin> courtc ^^^ 08:17 < Jonas_NZ> jholdt: username is ipodlinux@jbergler.mizer.net 08:17 < jholdt> there we go 08:19 < jholdt> they're pretty blurry :-/ 08:20 < Jonas_NZ> ill hav a look 08:21 < jholdt> http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/doomed%20ppc/DSCF0008.JPG <-- my would-be memory 08:21 < Jonas_NZ> k 08:23 < courtc> yes, pretty blurry. :) 08:23 < Jonas_NZ> toooooooo blurry 08:23 < Jonas_NZ> you got too close 08:24 < Jonas_NZ> check out my photos on the ipodlinux wiki 08:24 < Jonas_NZ> 1 sec ill giv u a link 08:24 < Jonas_NZ> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/4gImages 08:24 < jholdt> this camera has auto-focus... and it sucks bad 08:25 < Jonas_NZ> lol 08:29 < jholdt> goddamn thing is always in perfect focus just a second before it sets to its final blurry focus 08:32 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:37 < jholdt> cant get it to focus :-/ 08:38 < jholdt> maybe this is why it was free :-/ 08:38 < Jonas_NZ> lol 08:39 < jholdt> fujifilm finepix 2650 08:39 < jholdt> its ok with well-lit 3ft to 10ft away people... anything else........ 08:41 < courtc> coob, some good work on the wiki :) 08:41 < jholdt> what kinda camera did you use, jonas? 08:42 < Jonas_NZ> one sec 08:42 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:42 < Jonas_NZ> Olympus CZ50 its 4MP 08:42 < courtc> piratePenguin, are you in a position to check out a binary? 08:43 < piratePenguin> just about 08:44 < jholdt> yeah... thats about 4x the price 08:44 < courtc> of free? 08:44 < jholdt> of the selling value on amazon.com 08:47 < courtc> piratePenguin, so2.sytes.net/ipod/podzilla and so2.sytes.net/ipod/snap.pcf 08:47 < courtc> can you try that out on your ipod? 08:48 < courtc> snap.pcf goes in /home 08:48 < courtc> I've gotta go eat.. 08:50 < piratePenguin> I'll try.. cant gurantee I'll get it coppied over tho.. couldnt get my songs coppied over.. bad cable or something I think 08:50 < coob> ta courtc 08:50 < coob> mmm artwiz fonts 08:50 < courtc> :D 08:51 < coob> i quite liked the idea someone on the forums suggested of using Charcoal as the podzilla font - it's like chicago, but not 08:52 < Synapse-> hm. 08:52 < Jonas_NZ> cyaz all l8r 08:53 < Synapse-> Yuck I hate chicago. It pains me so. 08:53 -!- Jonas_NZ [~Jonas_NZ@210-55-34-110.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit ["Bye"] 08:53 < piratePenguin> courtc: CIs that a slow server? wget is still trying to connect..... 08:54 < courtc> bah, i guess its not working :/ 08:54 < courtc> dcc? 08:54 < piratePenguin> try it.. 08:54 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:55 < courtc> uhh.. 08:55 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:55 < piratePenguin> uhh.. xchat crashed when I accepted it :s 08:55 < piratePenguin> window just closed 08:55 < Synapse-> wheee! 08:55 < courtc> heh 08:55 < Synapse-> hooray for stupid clients. 08:55 < piratePenguin> lol 08:56 < piratePenguin> try angain if ya want.. dunno why that happened...... 08:57 < coob> irssi fo lyfe 08:57 < Synapse-> coob: hell yeah! 08:58 < coob> looool turkey are introducing a new currency because the numbers got too big 08:58 < jholdt> hmm... when i bring my pocketpc right next to my ear i can hear a tiny little tweeter when the battery is plugged in 08:58 < coob> 1 new turkish lira = 1,000,000 old lira 08:59 < courtc> well..http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/podzilla http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/snap.pcf 08:59 < piratePenguin> k 09:01 < piratePenguin> I have to reboot cause I'm not gettin that "do not disconnect" msg cause my ipod crashed when I was adding songs 09:02 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0602.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:07 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0659.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:07 < piratePenguin> my ipod is really pissing me off again :@ 09:07 < piratePenguin> check #ipodlinuxflood 09:08 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0659.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:11 < courtc> coob, whats NB: mean? 09:12 < jholdt> yup, definately memory modules 09:15 < Synapse-> Why don't you use a pastebot? 09:17 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup153.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:17 < jholdt> his family was devoured be wild bots 09:17 < piratePenguin> courtc: got 'em copied over.. at last 09:17 < courtc> jholdt, ? 09:17 < jholdt> i dunno, its 1am 09:18 < piratePenguin> courtc: whats supposed to be happenin :s 09:18 < Synapse-> jholdt: no excuse. 09:19 < jholdt> it can be 09:19 < courtc> piratePenguin, go into the first menu item.. Fonts 09:19 < piratePenguin> "Artwiz font.." 09:19 < piratePenguin> thats all 09:19 < courtc> piratePenguin, is it though? 09:20 < piratePenguin> I dunno what Artwix is :s 09:20 < Synapse-> jholdt: I don't think it can. 09:20 < piratePenguin> fonts look pretty normal 09:20 < Synapse-> Perhaps you should rethink. 09:21 < courtc> piratePenguin, the font of "Artwiz font.." is in a normal font? 09:21 < piratePenguin> looks like it.. can I see what Artwiz fonts look like on the net? 09:22 < Synapse-> screenshot? 09:22 < jholdt> hey! i got two really good pics.. weird 09:25 < courtc> http://artwizaleczapka.sourceforge.net/images/shots/de-artwiz-aleczapka.jpg bottom left is snap 09:27 < piratePenguin> this is *not* artwiz 09:28 < courtc> ok, did you put snap.pcf at /home/snap.pcf ? 09:28 < piratePenguin> yep 09:29 < courtc> hmm, can you go to 'Quit podzilla' and see what it says? 09:29 < piratePenguin> it crashed.. when I tried to open a gif in File Browser :( 09:29 < piratePenguin> rebootin. 09:30 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #iPodLinux 09:30 < courtc> fre_ber, hey 09:31 < fre_ber> Morning 09:32 < courtc> man, this would be so much easier if I had my computer :/ 09:32 < fre_ber> Lol, IRC via smoke signals? 09:33 < piratePenguin> ... createfont: (height == 0) found builtin font System (0) fnt_createfont: snap.pcf.9 not found ... 09:33 < piratePenguin> .9 ?? 09:33 < courtc> thats a comma 09:34 < piratePenguin> theres a t underneath it... cant tell 09:34 < courtc> haha.. no I'm trying to get fonts working via someone elses ipod :/ 09:34 < courtc> no firewire on here 09:35 < courtc> piratePenguin's ipod to be exact 09:35 < fre_ber> Ah. 09:35 < piratePenguin> so it cant find snap.pcf... 09:35 < courtc> perhaps.. 09:36 < piratePenguin> its in /home 09:36 < courtc> It might no be able to find the font size 9 09:37 < piratePenguin> so we'll be able to change the font sizes? excellent 09:38 < courtc> should look like http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/fontss.png 09:38 < piratePenguin> cool... 09:40 < jholdt> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Image:Ipod_tux.jpg <-- looks like color, how? 09:40 < piratePenguin> just the contrast levels... 09:40 < courtc> jholdt, read the text on that page 09:41 < jholdt> i dont know how to read :( 09:41 < coob> jholdt sucks. 09:42 < jholdt> coob smells 09:42 < coob> thoguht you couldn't read 09:42 < courtc> hmm, I dont believe you.. Unless of course you have a irc text reader 09:42 < jholdt> tricky! 09:42 < jholdt> i'm using text to speech 09:42 < courtc> but then to find that link... 09:43 < fre_ber> My text 2 speech plug in doesn't saeem to work on irc. :( 09:43 < jholdt> dragon naturally speaking came with my dell 09:43 < jholdt> i use it to pretend like i can read 09:44 < jholdt> cherry garcia is the best ice cream ever! =p~~~ 09:45 < piratePenguin> I refuse to believe its possible to use linux without being able to read 09:45 < fre_ber> Lol 09:45 < piratePenguin> your on windows.... I see 09:46 < jholdt> yes, dell has a special program for special people like me 09:46 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:46 < piratePenguin> can it read from yer browser? 09:46 < jholdt> of course 09:47 < piratePenguin> should've read that page... 09:47 < piratePenguin> so courtc, whats happenin? 09:48 < courtc> piratePenguin, nothing.. I think you are lying.. 09:48 < courtc> :D 09:48 < piratePenguin> heh 09:49 < piratePenguin> I am :p 09:49 < courtc> I knew it! 09:49 < piratePenguin> no - I'm not :p 09:50 < courtc> now I'm confused.. You have to be lying now.. 09:50 < piratePenguin> that font doesnt work.. 09:50 < courtc> lier 09:51 < courtc> I bet fre_ber could get it to work... 09:51 < fre_ber> Sure, what? ;) 09:51 < piratePenguin> heh 09:52 < piratePenguin> courtc: is the font in /home/snap.pcf on your pc? 09:53 < courtc> uh.. kinda 09:54 < piratePenguin> so it isn't.... why cant it find the font here? 09:54 < piratePenguin> snap.pcf ... not found 09:54 < courtc> dunno, actually when it uses the font on my pc it says: 09:55 < courtc> fnt_createfont: snap.pcf,9 not found 09:55 < courtc> def char 52 (34) 09:55 < courtc> size 95 byte1 0,0 byte2 32,126 09:55 < courtc> glyph_count = 95 (5f) 09:55 < courtc> pcf_createfont: using font snap.pcf 09:56 < piratePenguin> beneath that, on mine it says: "createfont: (height != 0) using builtin font System (0)" 09:57 -!- tlg [~tlg@10-236.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 10:00 < courtc> piratePenguin, hmm.. I might have given you a crappy bin 10:00 < courtc> does it say 'pcf_createfont' at all? 10:01 < piratePenguin> you did.. I cant even play songs! 10:01 < piratePenguin> no 10:01 < courtc> now thats not my fault 10:01 < courtc> ok 10:01 < piratePenguin> yea right 10:02 < courtc> no pcf support... 10:03 < courtc> piratePenguin, what does it say when tyou try and play mp3? 10:04 < piratePenguin> "target host unreachable" 10:05 < courtc> ? what? 10:05 < piratePenguin> thats what it says 10:06 < piratePenguin> I lied.. "Cannot open mp3" 10:06 < courtc> ok.. 10:07 < fre_ber> From where are you starting podzilla? Maybe this is that old bug.. 10:07 < courtc> I can fix that I think .. fre_ber still have that patch? 10:07 < piratePenguin> ah it does work.. 10:07 < piratePenguin> when I was in /home it didnt but in / it does :) 10:07 < fre_ber> Yes, I have it somewhere. 10:08 < courtc> I lost it in the distro switch 10:08 < piratePenguin> fix it in cvs too 10:08 < fre_ber> < Index: itunesmenu.c < =================================================================== < RCS file: /cvsroot/ipodlinux/tools/podzilla/itunesmenu.c,v < retrieving revision 1.4 < diff -u -r1.4 itunesmenu.c < --- itunesmenu.c 7 Dec 2004 01:07:57 -0000 1.4 < +++ itunesmenu.c 30 Dec 2004 19:10:20 -0000 < @@ -218,7 +218,9 @@ 10:08 < fre_ber> ourtc> ourtc> static void play_song(struct itdb_track *track) ourtc> { ourtc> - new_mp3_window(track->path, track->album, track->artist, track->title, track->length); ourtc> + char mpath[128]; ourtc> + sprintf(mpath, "/%s", track->path); ourtc> + new_mp3_window(mpath, track->album, track->artist, track->title, track->length); ourtc> } 10:08 < courtc> I've gotta ok that one with leachbj 10:08 < fre_ber> Err.. stupid message splitter... 10:10 < piratePenguin> courtc: oh and make track global... 10:10 < coob> you got a new dev ghetup courtc? 10:10 < courtc> gettoup? yes 10:10 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 10:10 < courtc> Luke! 10:11 < Luke> hey 10:11 < Luke> whatsup 10:14 < courtc> http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/podzilla <- double-fixed 10:14 < piratePenguin> k........ 10:15 < fre_ber> Here is that patch if you need it: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/itunesmenu_abspath.diff 10:15 < courtc> fre_ber: yea, I sorted out that jumble above 10:15 < courtc> its in that bin 10:16 < fre_ber> lol 10:16 < fre_ber> That file is the text you posted, not a bin. Should I use a different extension for that? 10:17 < courtc> what? 10:17 < piratePenguin> lol 10:17 < fre_ber> Nvm, not awake yet... 10:18 < piratePenguin> excellent! this works courtc.... nice font 10:18 < courtc> awesome 10:18 < piratePenguin> well, not really... Idont like the interface mock up thing 10:19 < courtc> mock up thing? 10:19 < piratePenguin> when I press menu.. 10:19 < coob> piratePenguin: take pictures! 10:19 < piratePenguin> no.. I'm lying :p 10:20 < fre_ber> You liar! ;) 10:20 < courtc> piratePenguin, quit it, Im getting confused :) 10:20 < piratePenguin> so am I.. whats happening my backlight? 10:21 < courtc> to your backlight? I dont know.. why dont _you_ tell us.. 10:21 < piratePenguin> its going on and off at random 10:22 < coob> haha 10:22 < coob> ipod rave! 10:22 < piratePenguin> lol 10:22 < courtc> thats bs.. 10:22 < courtc> lier 10:22 < courtc> with an a 10:23 < piratePenguin> yup 10:23 < fre_ber> I take it that I have do install a font for the font demo to work? 10:23 < fre_ber> s/do/to 10:23 < courtc> http://www.jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/snap.pcf in /home 10:25 < fre_ber> Cool, it works. 10:25 < courtc> :) 10:27 < piratePenguin> so.... whata ya think bout the next_track thing? I think... all that needs to be done is the 'track' or the selected song, made global.... 10:27 < piratePenguin> s/or/of/ 10:28 < piratePenguin> an I dunno how to do that (yet) 10:28 < fre_ber> I'm sorry, I was sleeping. "next_track"? 10:29 < coob> hmm gurther down the line how about a simple queuing system so (when the mp3 supports it) the songs can be buffered up 10:29 < piratePenguin> for goin onto the next track (prev_track comes next... maybe random_track and stuff too).... you any good at C ? 10:29 < coob> or even further down the line, a queueing system with mpd :D 10:29 < courtc> piratePenguin, its hard to say the best way to do it.. I was thinking perhaps in itunesmenu.c then return a |<< or >>| button press to itunesmenu.c 10:30 < courtc> but the best way by far is to just use MPD.. 10:30 < piratePenguin> havent tried MPD yet 10:31 < courtc> speaking of.. normalperson hows progress? 10:33 < piratePenguin> haven't heard of FLAC before.. where can I get a sample? 10:37 < courtc> http://ff123.net/samples.html 10:37 < piratePenguin> thanks 10:46 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:57 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:06 -!- Luke_ is now known as Luke 11:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 11:07 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Client Quit] 11:12 < normalperson> courtc: not much, keep getting distracted 11:13 < piratePenguin> normalperson: what are you working on ? 11:13 < normalperson> mpd 11:13 < normalperson> flac now, actually 11:13 < normalperson> learning asm 11:13 < courtc> and soon mad.. right? ;) 11:14 < normalperson> courtc: for sufficiently loose definitions of soon 11:14 < normalperson> or if you pay me 11:14 < normalperson> but optimization experience transfers over 11:15 < piratePenguin> you mean a client for the ipod? 11:15 < courtc> oh very loose, actually i meant something like 'in the next decade' ;) 11:15 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:15 < normalperson> oh yeah, we need an mpd client for mpd, too 11:16 < courtc> uh, yeah 11:16 < courtc> what was that you want me to look at? libmpdclient? 11:16 < piratePenguin> [declan@localhost ipod]$ tla get -A eric@petta-tech.com--2004b-ordinary mpd--uclinux-main--0 mpd--uclinux 11:16 < piratePenguin> archive not registered: eric@petta-tech.com--2004b-ordinary 11:16 < piratePenguin> (see register-archive) 11:17 < normalperson> oh, run tla register-archive that URL on the ipodlinux.org/MPD 11:17 < normalperson> s/the// 11:18 < courtc> who knows of a good cli stopwatch? 11:18 < normalperson> time 11:19 < courtc> cool, thanks 11:24 < courtc> http://ff123.net/sweep.html hmm I guess its good when you can hear the whole thing 11:26 < coob> lol 11:31 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:31 < coob> hah 11:31 < coob> i only get up to 4 seconds 11:31 < coob> 17.2 11:31 < coob> :< 11:33 < coob> i can hear the background noise though, these headphones are pretty good 11:33 < courtc> xmms has a tone generator just open the url tone://17200 11:33 < coob> on a mac 11:34 -!- Luke_ is now known as Luke 11:34 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 11:34 < courtc> Oh d'oh 11:34 < coob> xmms probably runs but i'm not sorting fink just for that heh 11:34 < piratePenguin> normalperson: ¤10 for WMA support :p 11:35 < normalperson> piratePenguin: ?10 (not sure what that character before the 10 is) 11:35 < courtc> normalperson, WMAe-12000 11:35 < piratePenguin> euro 11:35 < coob> euro 11:35 < normalperson> oh, heh 11:36 < courtc> looks like a box to me 11:36 < coob> euro's worth more than a dollar now aren't they? 11:36 < normalperson> yeah, box or something 11:36 < piratePenguin> 10 boxes then! 11:36 < piratePenguin> coob: always were iirc ;) 11:36 < normalperson> but there's no way to play WMA without MS .dll files, is there? 11:37 < piratePenguin> seriously? how does mplayer do it? 11:37 < piratePenguin> port wine and I'll give you FIFTEEN boxes 11:37 < normalperson> they have a w32codecs 11:37 < normalperson> piratePenguin: not only wine, I'd have to emulate an x86 using an ARM 11:38 < normalperson> mplayer can use windows dll files for x86 machines only 11:38 < piratePenguin> TWENTY boxes :p 11:38 < piratePenguin> you're really pushing the boat out now - normalperson 11:39 < piratePenguin> s/the boat out/it/ even 11:39 < courtc> is that some euro idiom? 11:40 < piratePenguin> I dunno wher I got it from 11:41 < normalperson> seriously, the only lossy codec I really care for is ogg-vorbis; but you may be able to persuade supporting mp3 out of me 11:41 < normalperson> WMA is just ridiculous 11:42 < piratePenguin> looks like I better figure out how to convert wmas into something better.... 11:42 < courtc> persuasion: support mp3 11:42 < piratePenguin> I need mp3sa 11:42 < fre_ber> Use the force, courtc. 11:43 < courtc> heh, Im trying 11:43 < fre_ber> Feel it flowing through you... 11:43 < courtc> You *want* to support mp3 11:43 < normalperson> courtc: really, it's not that hard to compile mpd with mad support 11:44 < normalperson> just tune the stack sizes 11:44 < normalperson> and then dig through the mad source code and look for bottlenecks 11:44 < piratePenguin> I cant get ./autogen.sh to complete properly (trying to compile that mpd thing).... "configure.in:140: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_LANGINFO_CODESET" 11:45 < courtc> normalperson: yea, it'd be easier with a way to test on my ipod.. 11:45 < normalperson> piratePenguin: you need automake 1.6 or later, autoconf 2.58 and m4 11:45 < normalperson> courtc: just profile and optimize mad on your desktop 11:45 < piratePenguin> normalperson: k 11:45 < courtc> normalperson, how exactly do I know if its optimized? 11:46 < courtc> "I _guess_ thats faster" 11:46 < normalperson> courtc: profile it and find out where the slowest functions are 11:46 < normalperson> or look for places where you see tight loops 11:46 < normalperson> or read mailing lists 11:46 < normalperson> how do you think *I* do it? 11:47 < courtc> magic 11:47 < normalperson> courtc: how's your algorithms knowledge? 11:47 < normalperson> at least you know unrolling certain loops is good 11:47 < fre_ber> The force? 11:48 < normalperson> you can also compile individual files with the -s option in gcc, which shows you the asm 11:48 < normalperson> branch instructions clear the pipeline, so avoid them 11:48 < courtc> yea, my asm is way below sub par though 11:48 < normalperson> courtc: so is mine (at least one week ago it was) 11:49 < piratePenguin> am I missing something or are the instructions on http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/MPD completly not-usable? (no offence normalperson) 11:49 < normalperson> piratePenguin: I may have skipped over some details... what are you having problems with? 11:49 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:49 < piratePenguin> ./ipod configure-flac 11:50 < normalperson> what does it say? 11:51 < piratePenguin> its alright... I couldnt find the ipod script, but eventually found it in mpd--uclinux 11:51 < normalperson> yeah, it's in mpd--uclinux 11:51 < courtc> he missed 'cd mpd--uclinux' 11:51 < courtc> :p 11:51 < normalperson> it's cd .. since he was in flac--ipod--1 11:52 < courtc> do'h 11:52 -!- Synapse- is now known as pdp 11:53 < normalperson> grr.. that wiki forces uppercasing of my name >:( 11:53 < piratePenguin> FS! I did it completly wrong..... I was supposed to "tla get -A eric@petta-tech.com--2004b-ordinary flac--ipod--1.1.0 flac--ipod--1" INSIDE mpd--uclinux! start again....... 11:53 -!- pdp is now known as Synapse- 11:53 < normalperson> piratePenguin: yeah 11:53 < normalperson> I'll need to create a tarball with everything in it someday 11:54 < piratePenguin> yup 11:54 < normalperson> and pre-autogen-ned, so you don't need the autotool/libtool stuff 11:54 < normalperson> s/ned/ed/ 11:54 < piratePenguin> definetly 11:56 < normalperson> I need sleep, 4am :/ 11:56 < normalperson> g'nite 11:56 < fre_ber> Good night. 11:56 < normalperson> I may not be around much tomorrow 11:56 < courtc> bye bye.. 11:56 < normalperson> lates 11:56 < piratePenguin> cya 11:57 < piratePenguin> "Run an MPD client (http://musicpd.org/clients.shtml) on your host machine that's connected to your ipod and connect to it." ... do I need like to network the ipod with my pc to connect to it? 11:57 < courtc> piratePenguin, yep 11:58 < piratePenguin> feck 11:58 < fre_ber> That disqualifies me for these trials.. :( 11:58 < piratePenguin> lol 11:59 < courtc> heh, I'll be working on a client soon(same definition as above) 11:59 < piratePenguin> gd 11:59 < fre_ber> That would be nice. Even though my ARM skills are next to non-existent.. :( 12:00 < coob> thaat libmpdclient looks pretty simple 12:01 < coob> shouldn't be too hard to plaster over the current player gui 12:01 < courtc> coob, under you mean.. 12:01 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:01 < piratePenguin> fre_ber: what kernel are you running on your ipod? 12:02 < coob> i mean meant over the code, but yeah under :D 12:02 < fre_ber> 3-1, is that the correct version number? :) 12:02 -!- evergreen [~evergreen@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 12:02 < courtc> 2.4.24-super-dooper-wicked-kernel 12:03 < courtc> fre_ber, its in About 12:03 < fre_ber> 2.4.24 here too, but release 3-1 12:03 < courtc> compiled from spagettii 12:03 < piratePenguin> I might try upgrading.. do I need the original apple fw? If I get fre_bers kernel I might find out if his minix prob really is ther kernel (I htink it is) 12:03 < piratePenguin> I'm on uclinux-2.4.24-ipod2 atm 12:04 < courtc> piratePenguin, just use make_fw to extract the apple crap again 12:04 < piratePenguin> k.. 12:05 < fre_ber> Well, I use the dreaded Windows installer to upgrade the kernel, so I'm not sure I can help in that department. 12:05 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:05 < piratePenguin> heh 12:06 < fre_ber> This is the kernel I use: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=696 12:06 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod3-1.tar.gz 12:06 < courtc> to be exact 12:06 < fre_ber> Yup, the very same. ;) 12:07 < fre_ber> Any sign of leachbj, by the way? 12:07 < piratePenguin> k.. I'll try and upgrade to that one...anyhow, when I do ./ipod configure-flac, I get: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../.. 12:08 < courtc> none.. He'll get to coding sometime this week.. Perhaps even today? :) 12:09 < fre_ber> That was what I was hoping for... He should definately be able to tell us about the minix problem - at least tell us if it is what I/we think it is... 12:09 < courtc> you sad sad person.. works fine for me... 12:10 < courtc> :p 12:10 < piratePenguin> lol the RTC is in that kernel... hardluck for whoever it was in here bout the new years day countdown timer (I told 'em leachbj was still working on an RTC ... lies) 12:11 < courtc> yea, I saw that.. Then made no comment.. I think I enjoy watching people suffer :/ 12:11 < coob> haha 12:11 < piratePenguin> heh 12:11 < fre_ber> We all know you do. :) 12:11 < coob> man 12:11 < fre_ber> "it draws a donkey"... 12:12 < coob> why do you need a new years counter on your ipod :< look at a tv. 12:12 < courtc> haha 12:12 < coob> oh just listen to all the loud drunk people 12:12 < piratePenguin> he only wanted to stay away from the family rofl 12:12 < coob> mind you i was both loud and drunk in the centre of london :D 12:12 * piratePenguin hopes *he* is not here (or she... whatever) 12:13 < piratePenguin> "podzilla also has a lock icon" ? do I get that with the kernel upgrade or what? 12:13 < fre_ber> No, the podzilla upgrade. 12:14 < fre_ber> But it appears to be less than perfect... 12:14 < piratePenguin> I dont have it at all (I compiled from CVS) 12:14 < fre_ber> Well, it is in there, I think. 12:15 < fre_ber> (I use that too) 12:15 < courtc> well, leach put KEY_UP detections in menu.c not in pz.c like I suggested :p so blame it on him :D 12:15 < fre_ber> Lol 12:16 < coob> hmmm 12:16 < piratePenguin> heh 12:17 < coob> could mpd be tied in with the itunes lib 12:17 < coob> so you browse your music thorugh it as well? 12:17 < coob> i don't see much point though heh 12:17 < piratePenguin> that'd be the client I think 12:17 < coob> unless you want karma style streaming from the ipod stuff 12:17 < coob> nah 12:17 < coob> cos the server has a db of all the mp3s 12:17 < coob> afaics 12:17 < piratePenguin> ah I dunno 12:19 < courtc> coob, well perhaps mpd could be changed to interpret the iTuneDB as its library.. 12:19 < fre_ber> That sounds like a good idea. Wouldn't be nice to require two separate databases... 12:19 < courtc> browse the songs through the client.. 12:20 < coob> yeah that's what i was thinking courtc, a little bit more work tho 12:21 < coob> unless you can just point mpd to a file, I dunno, not played with it yet 12:21 < courtc> I think it would be worth it.. It should work 12:22 < coob> yeah, cos then mpd's doing all your queuing etc 12:22 < courtc> yep 12:22 < coob> could probably hack mpd to buffer X meg as well. 12:23 < fre_ber> When this is working we just have to figure out how to put MPD on the COP, right? 12:23 < coob> yep 12:23 < courtc> Well like normalperson was saying.. umm something.. lost train of thought 12:23 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:23 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 12:24 < courtc> fre_ber, it really isnt a matter of 'figuring out' how to do it.. the cop executes at 0x0 ... 12:25 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup153.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:27 < fre_ber> Well, I understand that things can be run in the COP as weel, but can it access the disk? And how will the client send messages to it? Using the non-cached ram? I don't know... 12:27 < fre_ber> weel? Hmm, me crazy. 12:28 < coob> fre_ber: there's probablems getting the cop and cpu to see each other's caches 12:28 < coob> check the forum thread on it heh 12:28 < coob> lotsa info there 12:29 < fre_ber> Yes, that is what I have done, this is why I think that there is some figuring left to do.. ;) 12:39 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:39 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0226.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:40 < piratePenguin> got the kernel updated..... 12:40 < fre_ber> Nice. 12:42 < piratePenguin> yep 12:43 < piratePenguin> brb 12:43 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0226.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:47 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0113.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:48 < piratePenguin> fre_ber: gimme the last few lines of yer rc script will ya? 12:48 < coob> Creating library /Users/owl/Code/ipl/microwindows-0.90/src/lib/libmwdrivers.a ... 12:48 < coob> ar: creating archive /Users/owl/Code/ipl/microwindows-0.90/src/lib/libmwdrivers.a 12:48 < coob> Creating library /Users/owl/Code/ipl/microwindows-0.90/src/lib/libmwobjects.a ... 12:48 < coob> ar: no archive members specified 12:48 < coob> usage: ar -d [-TLsv] archive file ... 12:48 < coob> hmmmm 12:49 < piratePenguin> coob: you using http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop ? 12:49 < coob> yeah 12:49 < coob> but on a mac 12:49 < piratePenguin> lol... dunno if it'll work on that 12:50 < coob> trying to get it working on the OS X X11 12:50 -!- tlg [~tlg@10-236.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:50 < courtc> macpod got it working.. 12:50 < coob> should just need to change ARFLAGS to something decent 12:50 < piratePenguin> macpod: update the docs ;) 12:50 < courtc> somehow.. 12:50 < coob> i'll do it once i get it working 12:51 < fre_ber> PriatePenguin: That is easier said than done.. My sodding terminal program is poor with newlines... 12:51 < piratePenguin> did anyone else get it working from that doc (on linux) ? 12:51 < piratePenguin> k.. 12:51 < piratePenguin> np fre_ber 12:51 < coob> hm nope 12:52 < courtc> coob, that file is an empty archive.. really! 12:52 < coob> hm what to do? 12:52 < coob> i hate build systems :< 12:52 < courtc> um I think the fix was to change $(AR) to -$(AR) 12:52 < piratePenguin> I stole some of the stuff from the podzilla for ipod docs... some of it mightn't be nesicery 12:52 < courtc> or something like that 12:53 < piratePenguin> pfft.. I need an IRC spellchecker 12:53 < coob> well it skipped it, hurrah 12:54 < coob> so does -command in make just carry on going if the commadn fails? 12:54 < coob> command. 12:54 < courtc> coob, yea the - ignores errors 12:54 < coob> nice 12:54 < coob> learn something new every day 12:55 -!- tlg [~tlg@19-233.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:57 < piratePenguin> damnit.. I'm getting stuck @ "freeing kernel init memory again :@" 12:57 < piratePenguin> courtc: your on the same kernel? what shell do you use? 13:00 < courtc> minix 13:00 < piratePenguin> whats the last few lines of /etc/rc like? 13:00 < courtc> hdparm is the last line 13:01 < piratePenguin> what bout podzilla and /sbin/sh 13:02 < courtc> i dont use the shell directly, only through telnet, so podzilla is in my inittab along with inetd 13:02 < piratePenguin> are they in it? 13:02 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:02 < piratePenguin> k..... 13:03 < fre_ber> Actually, I can't start sh from /etc/rc - it just terminates immediately. I think that I might know why - I tried to launch my hacked version that reads /dev/ttyS0 and it fails. It seems as if stdin and stdout are not present in that environment. 13:03 < fre_ber> *open 13:03 < coob> ok i get errors on the demos but those i can live without 13:03 < piratePenguin> looks like I have to reboot everytime I uplug my ipod + plug it back in...... brb 13:04 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0113.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:04 < courtc> coob, you are using the config.ipod_X11 from cvs right? 13:04 < coob> yes. 13:04 < courtc> ok 13:13 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0844.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:13 < coob> grrrrr need new automake/autoconf for libitunes 13:14 < courtc> use -f 13:14 < coob> with what? 13:14 < coob> oh duh 13:16 < coob> autoconf still errors with -f 13:16 < courtc> automake -a -f ? 13:16 < coob> automake isn't the problem 13:17 < coob> autoconf is 13:17 < coob> ibook:~/Code/ipl/libitunesdb_0.5.1 owl$ make 13:17 < coob> cd . && /bin/sh /Users/owl/Code/ipl/libitunesdb_0.5.1/missing --run autoconf 13:17 < coob> configure.ac:4: error: Autoconf version 2.59 or higher is required 13:17 < coob> configure.ac:4: the top level 13:17 < coob> autom4te: /usr/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 13:17 < coob> make: *** [configure] Error 1 13:17 < coob> ibook:~/Code/ipl/libitunesdb_0.5.1 owl$ 13:17 < courtc> oh, well then.. I guess you need to update :/ 13:18 < piratePenguin> you *can* do without it if this is just for the desktop.... 13:19 < piratePenguin> without libitunesdb... cant play music from podzilla on the desktop 13:19 < coob> autoconf/aclocal/m4/automake are a mess 13:19 < coob> heh pirate, could if podzilla had an mpd client :) 13:19 < coob> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -Wall -g -O2 -c itunesdb.c -MT itunesdb.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/itunesdb.TPlo -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/itunesdb.o 13:19 < coob> itunesdb.c:11:22: byteswap.h: No such file or directory 13:19 < coob> itunesdb.c: In function `itohl': 13:19 < coob> woo. 13:20 < piratePenguin> uhh.. podzilla doesnt compile the music stuff unless IPOD=1 is used... 13:20 < piratePenguin> dont use libitunesdb or jpeg-6b.... its not like they work :p 13:20 < courtc> coob, alright theres a patch floating around somewheres 13:21 < courtc> piratePenguin is right for jpeg but i thing coob is trying to make an mpd client... 13:21 < piratePenguin> oh.. 13:21 < piratePenguin> well goodluck coob! 13:22 < coob> eh 13:22 < coob> am i? ok! 13:22 < piratePenguin> heh 13:22 < courtc> I was guessing 13:22 < courtc> Was I right? 13:22 < piratePenguin> taut he was doing http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Building_Podzilla_for_the_Desktop ? 13:22 < coob> i am 13:23 < piratePenguin> well all you need is microwindows + podzilla I think... but you'll need to mess about with the makefiles and stuff 13:24 < piratePenguin> forget about step 6 in microwindows.. 13:24 < courtc> coob, you need to talk to macpod if you want that patch, but it was pretty much just commenting out the itohl stuff because macs use hl 13:24 < coob> ah ok courtc 13:28 < piratePenguin> anyone ever gotten the ipod networked with a pc runnin a 2.6.x kernel ? 13:29 < fre_ber> I doubt it - only with the patch- 13:30 < piratePenguin> just found: http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php .. theres a bit there for 2.6 13:31 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 13:31 < fre_ber> Eh? On the index page? 13:32 < coob> ethernet page is what you want 13:32 < fre_ber> Yes. 13:32 < fre_ber> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Ethernet 13:32 < piratePenguin> omg.. how did I get that wrong... 13:38 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0844.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:38 < coob> omg 13:38 < coob> i had to disable 13:38 < coob> ALL 13:38 < coob> the good menus 13:38 < coob> (playback) 13:38 < coob> but it works :D 13:46 < coob> righto 13:46 < coob> will install mpd after i have a kip 13:47 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:54 < coob> normalperson - are you using libao on the ipod? 13:54 < coob> for mpd 13:56 < fre_ber> Didn't he go to sleep? 13:56 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0804.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:56 < piratePenguin> root:/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux/drivers/ipodeth1394# make KDIR=/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10 13:56 < piratePenguin> make -C /home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10 SUBDIRS=/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394 modules 13:56 < piratePenguin> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10' 13:56 < piratePenguin> CC [M] /home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394/ipodeth1394.o 13:56 < piratePenguin> /home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394/ipodeth1394.c: In function `ether1394_type_trans': 13:57 < piratePenguin> /home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394/ipodeth1394.c:456: error: union has no member named `ethernet' 13:57 < piratePenguin> make[2]: *** [/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394/ipodeth1394.o] Error 1 13:57 < piratePenguin> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10/drivers/ipodeth1394] Error 2 13:57 < piratePenguin> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/declan/stuff/sources/linux-2.6.10' 13:57 < piratePenguin> make: *** [default] Error 2 13:57 < piratePenguin> any idea whats wrong? 13:57 < fre_ber> Windowsnoob=clueless... 13:58 < piratePenguin> just trying to make the ipoeth1394 kernel module for 2.6.10 ... 13:58 < fre_ber> I figured that much.. ;) 13:58 < piratePenguin> anyone got this done (for any 2.6.x kernel) ? 13:58 < Synapse-> piratePenguin: why the flood? 13:59 < piratePenguin> uhh... sorry, its bigger than I taut 13:59 < piratePenguin> look like an error in the code.. but, hardly :s 14:00 < fre_ber> Probably wring header file somewhere. 14:00 < fre_ber> *wrong 14:00 < coob> you call that a flood? heh 14:01 < piratePenguin> lol 14:01 < courtc> piratePenguin, i've got the patch for that... 14:01 < piratePenguin> n1 14:01 < coob> lol why is everything patchs and not cvs fixes :< 14:01 < piratePenguin> yea 14:02 < courtc> coob, because it wont work on kernels<2.6.9 14:02 < coob> ah 14:04 < courtc> - eth = skb->mac.ethernet; 14:04 < courtc> + eth = (struct eth1394hdr *)skb->mac.raw; 14:04 < courtc> - packet_task_cache = kmem_cache_create("packet_task", sizeof(struct packet_task), 14:04 < courtc> + packet_task_cache = kmem_cache_create("packet_task2", sizeof(struct packet_task), 14:05 < piratePenguin> so what do I do? Is it like... put that into a file, patch.patch.. then 'patch -Np1 -i patch.patch' (thats the only way I ever did it) 14:05 < coob> just change them manually heh 14:05 < piratePenguin> lol 14:05 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:06 < courtc> naw, just change it manually in a text editor.. 14:06 < piratePenguin> k 14:08 < piratePenguin> rebootin..... 14:08 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0804.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:09 < coob> i swear that's a module heh 14:10 < coob> grr, libao went all dlsym_auto_underscore on me. 14:10 < coob> bastards, have to remake that now 14:13 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:17 < courtc> $ ping localhost 14:17 < courtc> ping: unknown host localhost 14:17 < courtc> haha 14:17 < coob> vi /etc/hosts 14:17 < courtc> i know 14:17 < fre_ber> lol 14:20 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup176.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:20 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 14:20 -!- Synapse- [~bagheera@c211-30-75-190.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:21 < coob> hmm yep 14:21 < coob> i think mpd'll need to converted to use the itunesdb 14:21 < courtc> gl 14:21 < courtc> It needs to be a compile option... 14:23 < coob> yep 14:23 < coob> it's still importing my music collection :< 14:24 -!- f0bic [f0bic@66-214-91-227.mal-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:26 < courtc> It did mine of 5 songs in no time at all ;) 14:28 < coob> problems getting ao_driver_info 14:28 < coob> you may not have permission to the audio device 14:28 < coob> woo 14:28 < coob> won;t even start. 14:28 < fre_ber> Hmm... If a.h requires b.h and b.h requiers a.h, what can I do? 14:29 < piratePenguin> make c.h 14:29 < courtc> ifdef _a_h_ 14:29 < courtc> rather ifndef _a_h_ 14:29 < fre_ber> Hmm... 14:30 < courtc> at the top of a.h and an #endif at the end 14:30 < piratePenguin> how can a .h need a .h ? 14:31 < coob> easily. 14:31 < courtc> and a #define _a_h_ in the below the #ifndef 14:31 < fre_ber> The ship.h declares a global function that takes a Ship * and a Shot* as parameters, shot.h declares a function that takes Ship * as parameter... 14:31 < fre_ber> courtc: I already do that, but it won't solve this problem, will it? 14:31 < piratePenguin> I dont have a clue 14:32 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup176.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:33 < courtc> umm.. whats the problem? 14:33 < fre_ber> Is it ugly to move the #include down in the file so that some things are already declared when it is executed? 14:34 < fre_ber> Difficult to explain. ;) 14:34 < courtc> depends on how far down.. if its only below defines then its fine.. but it should usually stay above code.. 14:35 < fre_ber> I think I have to move it below the struct and typedefs. 14:35 -!- f0bic [f0bic@66-214-91-227.mal-cres.charterpipeline.net] has quit [] 14:36 < fre_ber> Hmm, didn't help, maybe my mind is short-circuited? 14:37 < fre_ber> Was there a flood channel where I can try to explain? 14:37 < courtc> Thats a possibility.. Yea #ipodlinuxflood 14:41 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E57712.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:41 < courtc> hey Jack_MD 14:41 < Jack_MD> hi 14:41 < Jack_MD> what's going on? 14:42 < courtc> fre_ber is confusing everyone.. 14:42 < fre_ber> As usual.. 14:42 < Jack_MD> why? 14:42 < fre_ber> I don't know how the C preprocessor works.. :( 14:43 < Jack_MD> @fre_ber: read a book 14:43 < fre_ber> I know... 14:43 < Jack_MD> why do you wan't to know that? 14:44 < fre_ber> Since it wasn't much of a flood I'll re-post in here: 14:44 < coob> can't get mpd to use the macosx ao driver :< 14:44 < courtc> #mpd 14:44 < fre_ber> ..err scratch that... 14:45 < fre_ber> Jack_MD: Because I have come to a recursive #include requirement.. :| 14:45 < fre_ber> Poor design, I guess. 14:47 < fre_ber> ship.h: 14:47 < fre_ber> typedef struct ship {...} Ship; 14:47 < fre_ber> ... 14:47 < fre_ber> void fire (Shot *array, Ship *ship); 14:47 < Jack_MD> @fre_ber: err... I don't understand... what do you want to do there? 14:47 < fre_ber> shot.h 14:47 < fre_ber> typedef struct shot {...} Shot; 14:47 < fre_ber> ... 14:47 < fre_ber> void newShot (Ship *ship); 14:47 < fre_ber> Now, both these files need to include eachother to work... 14:48 < Jack_MD> why do they have to include each other? 14:49 < fre_ber> Well, ship.h needs to know what a Shot* is and shot.h needs to know what a Ship* is. 14:49 < Jack_MD> mh... *thinking*... yeah 14:50 < Jack_MD> but you can make one file instead of making to include files, right? 14:50 < fre_ber> I could, but it would break my OOP heart.. :p 14:51 < courtc> fre_ber, make an extra.h and include that from both 14:51 < Jack_MD> *g* but you're programming in C, right? from all what I know C is not an OOP language... 14:51 < fre_ber> I could also move the prototypes to separate .h files. 14:51 < courtc> Jack_MD, It can be :D 14:51 < fre_ber> You are right, but I make it as if it was.. ;) 14:51 < Jack_MD> mh.. ok 14:53 < courtc> fre_ber, put the typedefs in one .h and include that :p 14:53 < fre_ber> Yes, I think I will do that. 14:53 < fre_ber> ..err, rather put the protos in separate header files. 14:54 < courtc> bah, I'm gonna get out of the house.. later 14:55 < fre_ber> Ohh, scary though.. 14:55 < fre_ber> *thought 14:55 < courtc> :/ Incredibly not so.. 14:55 < fre_ber> lol 14:56 < Jack_MD> @fre_ber: how about Objective-C? ;) 14:56 < fre_ber> Never tried it. :) 14:56 < courtc> not on the ipod.. 14:57 < courtc> OK, now I'm really away.. 14:57 < fre_ber> Ok, later. 14:58 < Jack_MD> Objective-C is the rubbish I've ever seen (without realbasic) so you shouldn't try to learn it... 14:59 < fre_ber> Lol 14:59 < Jack_MD> err. do you want to include your ship.c into podzilla? 14:59 < fre_ber> It already is.. :) 14:59 < Synapse-> Jack_MD: I've seen plenty of great apps come from obj-c 14:59 < fre_ber> Steroids.. 15:00 < Jack_MD> axo 15:00 < coob> Jack_MD: Obj-C is bad how? 15:00 < Synapse-> Jack_MD: What OS do you use? 15:00 < Jack_MD> @Synapse-: may be, but I don't like Obj-C 15:00 < Jack_MD> Mac OS X 15:00 < Synapse-> That doesn't make it bad. 15:01 < Jack_MD> what doesn't make it bad? 15:01 < Synapse-> http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05423 15:01 < Synapse-> oops 15:01 < fre_ber> Ahh, putting the protos in separate header files seems to work. 15:01 < Synapse-> 02:00 < Jack_MD> @Synapse-: may be, but I don't like Obj-C 15:02 < Synapse-> Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it bad. 15:02 < Jack_MD> ah! ok, I ment it is bad for me.. 15:02 < fre_ber> Now, why did I need this?... Hmm.. Alzheimer kicking in... 15:02 < Synapse-> Actually, you said it was rubbish and he shouldn't try to learn it. 15:03 < Synapse-> Crap. 15:03 < Synapse-> I should get to sleep. 15:04 -!- tear_dr0p [~knob@135.Red-217-126-206.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:04 < Synapse-> I have to be awake-ish tomorrow. 15:04 < fre_ber> Back to work? Me too. :( 15:04 < Jack_MD> I have hollidays... 15:05 < fre_ber> I had all of it this week and the week before. 15:05 < Jack_MD> fre_ber: where do you live at the moment in the US or in Europe? 15:05 < fre_ber> But this week has been fun, even though my day/night cycle doesn't think so. 15:05 < fre_ber> Europe, Sweden 15:05 < Jack_MD> ah, ok 15:07 < Jack_MD> err.. another question: why do you want to edit steriods in podzilla? 15:07 < fre_ber> Ehm, to make it work? :) 15:07 < Jack_MD> mh? I thought it would work... 15:08 < fre_ber> Well, now I get points for destroying asteroids and die when crashing into them. 15:08 < fre_ber> When my five ships are gone, it is game over. 15:09 < Jack_MD> ah! that's great 15:09 < fre_ber> Want a binary? :) 15:09 < fre_ber> Still some bugs though.. 15:09 < Jack_MD> mh.. only if it is finished.. 15:09 < fre_ber> Lol, it will never be finished.. :) 15:09 < coob> hah the pong port ocks 15:10 < coob> looks just like the original 15:10 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0517.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:10 < coob> wow, slow reboot! 15:10 < fre_ber> lol @ pirate 15:10 < piratePenguin> lol... I'm rebooting between kernels (and distributions) 15:11 < piratePenguin> In my *good* kernels I cant get connected to the net 15:11 < piratePenguin> only on my crap mandrake one 15:12 < Jack_MD> *g* i have the same problem with my debian 15:12 < piratePenguin> how do you connect to the net? I use ISDN, and its a bitch on 2.6... 15:14 < Synapse-> hm. 15:14 < Jack_MD> I have an old 2.4.18 kernel, cause I didn't compiled a knew one.. I'm using DSL over AirPort (WLAN) 15:14 < Synapse-> I always seem to have grub problems with my kernel compiles. 15:16 < Jack_MD> mh... yeah, I know this problem, but I have it with yaboot 15:16 < piratePenguin> how? I've compiled the kernel too many times I think 15:16 < Synapse-> It panicks and says something about not being able to find the device.... 15:16 < Jack_MD> I think I have made a mistake with the root partition 15:16 < Jack_MD> yeah, got the same error 15:16 < piratePenguin> heh 15:17 < Synapse-> piratePenguin: any thoughts? 15:17 < Jack_MD> does anybody know the lfs-from-osx hint from Martin Schaffner? 15:17 < piratePenguin> add 'root=/dev/hda5' to the kernel line in menu.lst 15:18 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:18 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 15:18 < Jack_MD> where is menu.lst 15:18 < piratePenguin> /boot/grub/menu.lst probably 15:19 < piratePenguin> Jack_MD: its the grup config file... you must learn how to use it :/ 15:19 < Synapse-> /boot/grub/menu.lst 15:20 < Jack_MD> oh... under ppc machines I have to use yaboot.. it's a bit different to grub 15:20 < piratePenguin> oh 15:21 < piratePenguin> Synapse-: you ever changed taht config file before? 15:22 < piratePenguin> is the root=... bit in it already? 15:22 < Synapse-> piratePenguin: let me double check 15:23 < Jack_MD> one question: arm-softfloat=armnommu? 15:23 < Synapse-> title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8 15:23 < Synapse-> root (hd0,0) 15:23 < Synapse-> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8 root=/dev/hda1 ro 15:23 < Synapse-> savedefault 15:23 < Synapse-> boot 15:23 < piratePenguin> Synapse-: thats ok.... you needa make a new entry for your custom kernel 15:24 < Synapse-> THat is my custom kernel. 15:24 < Synapse-> I used make-kpkg to make then install the kernel 15:24 < piratePenguin> and does /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8 exist? 15:24 < Dr_Unvisible> http://jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/doomed%20ppc/DSCF0008.JPG 15:25 < Synapse-> yup. 15:25 < Dr_Unvisible> sorry i hit the center click on my thinkpad and it just pasted a link for last up 15:25 < Synapse-> But it is on my boot partition. 15:25 < Synapse-> 0,0 is my boot partition 15:25 < piratePenguin> yep, good 15:25 < Synapse-> 0,1 is swap 15:25 < piratePenguin> gd 15:25 < Synapse-> and 0,2 is root. 15:26 < Synapse-> Dr_Unvisible: it does that. 15:26 < piratePenguin> Synapse-: so.... did you compile all your stuff into the kernel... the stuff you *need* (to boot) like IDE support, ext3 (probably - or whatever filesystems you use) 15:27 < Synapse-> I am sure I compiled reiserfs and ext3 (the fses I used) 15:27 < Synapse-> But I should double check the IDE. 15:28 < fre_ber> Hmm.. I think I made Steroids too difficult.. :( 15:28 < piratePenguin> heh 15:29 < fre_ber> Or maybe my gaming skillz are pooched..:) 15:29 < piratePenguin> lol 15:29 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:29 < Synapse-> It will be time for sleep once this starts compil0ring again... 15:30 < piratePenguin> Synapse-: they must be compiled *in* the kernel.... and anything else that you *dont* need (to boot) can be modules 15:30 < Synapse-> piratePenguin: I know... 15:30 < piratePenguin> k 15:30 < Synapse-> I was fairly sure I did, but I ma checking 15:30 < piratePenguin> once you have it configured: make && make modules_install 15:31 < Synapse-> I think that make-kpkg takes care of all that. 15:31 < piratePenguin> right 15:31 < Jack_MD> where will be the modules installed? I forgot it... 15:32 < piratePenguin> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ 15:32 < Jack_MD> ah! thx 15:32 < piratePenguin> np 15:33 < Jack_MD> mh.. I'm compiling a new arm compiler on osx now... that takes much time.. 15:33 < piratePenguin> on linux I just use the binaries......... dunno bout osx 15:34 < Jack_MD> there are binaries for osx, but I want to try it make it myself... 15:34 < courtc> there are osx arm-elf binaries 15:35 -!- Nikonwifi [~nikon@rockville01.realwarp.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:35 < Jack_MD> I want to know how much I understand from those things.. 15:35 < piratePenguin> :s 15:36 < Jack_MD> @piratePenguin: mh? 15:37 < piratePenguin> huh? 15:37 < courtc> eh? 15:38 < Jack_MD> what do you mean with :s? it is a smiley I know, but what do you want to say with it? 15:38 < fre_ber> So would anyone care to try out the new version of Steroids? I don't think I have added any more bugs to it... 15:38 < piratePenguin> confused 15:38 < courtc> It means hes nauseated 15:38 < piratePenguin> or that... 15:38 < courtc> or constipated 15:38 < Jack_MD> ah ok 15:39 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:39 < courtc> fre_ber, I'll try an X11 bin :/ 15:40 < Jack_MD> io can try it out on my pod 15:40 < fre_ber> Can't give you one. I tried to compile microwindows for x11, but it requires some kernel headers that I couldn't find in Cygwin. :( 15:40 < courtc> oh righ winshmoes 15:40 < courtc> I'd need a linux bin anywho.. 15:40 < piratePenguin> fre_ber: X11-devel something.... I had loadsa trouble with that 15:41 < piratePenguin> courtc: I might have it.. 15:41 < coob> thems not kernel headers 15:41 < fre_ber> X11 devel, I found, asm/page.h were more difficult.. ;) 15:41 < courtc> ? What ? 15:41 < piratePenguin> k.. well I had trouble with the X headers 15:41 < courtc> piratePenguin, you might have what? 15:41 < Jack_MD> on x11 I have the problem that i couldn't use the mouse or the keyboard 15:41 < piratePenguin> courtc: the binary..... 15:41 < fre_ber> and linux/something.. 15:41 < courtc> piratePenguin, for what? 15:42 < piratePenguin> courtc I'd need a linux bin anywho.. 15:42 < courtc> reread^ 15:42 < piratePenguin> I dunno wtf 15:42 < fre_ber> http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/podzilla 15:42 < Jack_MD> is it for the ipod? 15:43 < fre_ber> Yes 15:43 < Jack_MD> ok, I'll try it now 15:43 * fre_ber crosses fingers 15:43 < courtc> fre_ber, cvs diff? 15:44 < courtc> and it better be -Wall tested ;) 15:44 < fre_ber> Heh, too much has changed.. 15:44 < fre_ber> I now have -Wall in my makefile, always. :) 15:45 < courtc> It's in the Makefile in CVS 15:45 < fre_ber> To create a diff? 15:45 < piratePenguin> cvs diff -u file.c 15:45 < courtc> eh? -Wall is 15:46 < fre_ber> Sorry, confused. :) 15:46 < piratePenguin> we all are 15:46 < fre_ber> :) 15:46 < fre_ber> I get it, -Wall is in the CVS makefile and you use cvs to create diffs. 15:47 < fre_ber> Unfortunately, my folder structure doesn't match the one in CVS. :( 15:47 < courtc> cvs -q diff -u > pz-Steroids2.134.diff 15:48 < fre_ber> Ah... 15:49 < fre_ber> Can I specify separate files in cvs to check against? 15:49 < fre_ber> To compensate for path differences.. 15:49 < courtc> dont do It on specific files.. just in the podzilla directory.. and your pz structure better match or :(| * -|< 15:49 < fre_ber> lmao 15:50 < Jack_MD> the steriods functions... but: 15:51 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0517.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:51 < courtc> just send me a tar :/ 15:51 < fre_ber> I will. 15:51 < fre_ber> Just waiting for Jack's verdict.. 15:52 < Jack_MD> if you loose a ship you do not start in the middle, you are flying across the screen like your ship wasn't destroyed 15:52 < Jack_MD> whoops... 15:53 < Jack_MD> mh.. and... let me think a bit 15:53 < fre_ber> Yes, I have been thinking about this. I'm not sure that starting in the middle is the optimal way. This way it is as if your ship isn't really destroyed, rather totally shut down. It sustains five hits but all systems shut down for a while. :) 15:54 < Jack_MD> mh.. ok 15:54 < fre_ber> Lol, I just haven't done anything about that part yet. 15:54 < courtc> fre_ber, then you are going to run into a rock... 15:54 < fre_ber> It needs an explosion as well. 15:55 < fre_ber> Bounce off the rock? :) 15:55 < Jack_MD> and you are in the next level if you are game over and restard steriods 15:55 < fre_ber> I am? Hmm... 15:55 < Jack_MD> welll, there were more rocks then the time before 15:55 < courtc> fre_ber, you have to reset the variables when you start anew 15:56 < courtc> ahem, those are asteroids! 15:56 < courtc> :D 15:56 < fre_ber> Ah, the number of asteroids does currently not depend on the level. 15:57 < fre_ber> The "level" only indicates how many times you have cleared the field. 15:57 < courtc> some level ;) 15:57 < fre_ber> :) 15:58 < fre_ber> The difficulty lies in staying alive as long as possible - I found it difficult enough anyway. 15:58 < Jack_MD> mh.. the asteroid games I know change the number of asteroids.. 15:58 < fre_ber> Ok, might add that some time. :) 15:58 < fre_ber> The way it is now is a bit too random. 15:58 < courtc> Jack_MD, but howm many Steroids games have you seen? 15:59 < Jack_MD> @courtc: 3 or 4 15:59 < fre_ber> The most annoying bugs are however, that the asteroids sometimes get stuck on the edge of the screen, sometimes appears to get zero velocity and that the ship animation sometimes freeze for a while and then skips to the correct position. 15:59 < courtc> coob, thats the effect I was going for in pong.. Glad to hear it resembles the original 15:59 < courtc> do;h 16:00 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E57712.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:00 < coob> i saw this odd thing the other year, a mechanical reproduction of the original pong game heh 16:00 < coob> using magnets and such 16:00 < fre_ber> Very cool. 16:00 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E57712.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:00 < courtc> heh, nifty 16:01 < Jack_MD> am I online? 16:01 < courtc> nope 16:01 < courtc> just psudo-online 16:01 < Jack_MD> ah, ok, I am... got into a little problem 16:01 < coob> http://pongmechanic.hasselt.org/indexen.html 16:02 < fre_ber> Great thing! 16:03 < courtc> thats super cool :) 16:04 < Jack_MD> interesting! 16:06 < fre_ber> Hmm, I'm getting lots of differences in files I don't think I have changed anything. Perhaps I didin't base it on the latest version... 16:09 < Jack_MD> in the newest arm-elf mac os x toolchain is no g++/c++ compiler 16:15 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:15 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 16:16 < Jack_MD> it is quiet here.. a bit to quiet... 16:17 < courtc> *cough 16:17 < fre_ber> I'm just checking in my sources to my on version system before sending a tar to courtc... 16:18 < fre_ber> Ouch, found a bug in the process.. ;) 16:21 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EABD20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:33 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 16:34 < fre_ber> Hello leachbj! You have been missed. :) 16:34 < leachbj> hi all... sorry xmas holidays (family visiting) 16:34 < courtc> hi! 16:34 < leachbj> hey courtc 16:34 < Jack_MD> hi 16:35 < leachbj> hey Jack_MD 16:36 < coob> hi leachbj wb 16:36 < courtc> coob needs a cookie.. 16:37 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:37 < Jack_MD> ok... know I must go... help my father with some computers... 16:37 < Jack_MD> cya 16:37 < leachbj> hey coob... good work with the wiki 16:38 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E57712.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:39 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup082.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:39 < piratePenguin> I think I figured out why I cant ping my ipod! Its cause I'm not using firewire 16:39 < courtc> gj piratePenguin! :D 16:41 < piratePenguin> gj ? 16:41 < piratePenguin> so I needa use firewire? I couldnt trust my firewire cable to transfer songs over to my ipod.. hmm, can I trust it to run a telnet connection over.. 16:43 < piratePenguin> feck it I better try it........ 16:43 < piratePenguin> brb (rebooting - a few times) 16:43 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup082.ts006.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:44 < fre_ber> Hmm, since I couldn't get a proper diff from CVS, I am struggling to get one from VSS.. Grr, it only wants to output it's crazy Micro$oft format... 16:49 < macpod> woao 16:49 < fre_ber> Hi, macpod. 16:50 < macpod> hey 16:51 < macpod> alright, business time 16:51 < macpod> leachbj have you gotten a chance to take a look and cvs that diff i sent you? 16:53 < fre_ber> Steroids v0.2: 16:53 < fre_ber> Changes: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/VSSChangereport_050101.txt 16:53 < fre_ber> Sources: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/podzilla-steroids-0.2-src.tar.gz 16:53 < macpod> what are the changes?? 16:53 < fre_ber> Binary: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/podzilla 16:53 < fre_ber> It is now playable. :) 16:54 < fre_ber> It is dangerous to fly among asteroids. 16:54 < macpod> heh 16:54 < fre_ber> The sources contains changed podzilla files as well as Steroids files, ignore these - it should work with the current CVS podzilla, just the Steroids folder is interesting. :) 16:55 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:55 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 16:55 < leachbj> macpod: nope still haven't looked at your patch.. just got back tonight. 16:55 < fre_ber> I don't know why my podzilla files are different, I might have forgotten to check out from CVS recently. 16:55 < macpod> kk 16:55 < leachbj> macpod: congrats on the ./ was the review good? 16:55 < macpod> very good 16:56 < macpod> or at least honest imo 16:56 < leachbj> great stuff! 16:56 < fre_ber> courtc: Did you fall asleep? 16:56 < macpod> courtc is an insomniac 16:56 < courtc> no.. 16:56 < fre_ber> I know, but after a couple of days he dozes off. :) 16:57 < fre_ber> Will those sources do? Or did you step down the second the master logged in. :) 16:57 < courtc> but I bet leachbj wants to take a look at those himself.. 16:57 < leachbj> i should get a look at stuff tomorrow or the next day. 16:57 -!- jholdt [~email@c-24-4-19-128.client.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:58 < courtc> leachbj, no coding today? 17:00 < leachbj> drove over 500kms today, over 2000kms since 27th so not likely ;) 17:00 < courtc> http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/VSSChangereport_050101.txt: 404 17:00 < fre_ber> I'm on it.. ;) 17:01 < courtc> got it 17:01 < fre_ber> Still couldn't make a dif.. :( 17:01 < fre_ber> Stupid VSS. 17:02 < fre_ber> Now, that URL is correct. 17:02 < courtc> doesnt cygwin have a cygwin pserver or svn? or even arch? 17:03 < courtc> err.. cvs pserver 17:03 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:03 < fre_ber> Don't know. But it should have cvs, at least I have a client.. ;) 17:04 < fre_ber> I have just got used to VSS... 17:04 < fre_ber> I might look at svn... 17:05 < courtc> omg, put a containing folder in your tars :/ 17:05 < fre_ber> I didn't? O crap, I meant to... 17:05 < loofus> Mornin' 17:05 < fre_ber> Evening. 17:05 < courtc> hah, now i have alot of crap to clean up.. :/ 17:06 < fre_ber> I am cincerly very sorry about that... 17:06 < loofus> http://loofus.0x90.org/ipodloader-src-0.3.2-4g.patch 17:06 * fre_ber hides in corner of shame 17:06 < courtc> Its ok.. I'll live 17:06 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup055.ts002.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:08 < piratePenguin> whenever I plug my ipod into my pc via *firewire* .. nothing happens in dmesg, or any of the log files. The ipod seems to be charging, but even when I load all needed modules I never get a "do not disconnect" message... anyone know whats wrong? 17:08 < macpod> Pirate do you want the podzilla diff? 17:09 < piratePenguin> what one? 17:09 < courtc> _The_ 17:09 < courtc> :D 17:09 < macpod> heh 17:09 < piratePenguin> whats it do? 17:10 < macpod> lets osx compile podzilla for x11 17:10 < courtc> I think coob is the one looking for that.. 17:10 < piratePenguin> uhh.. no, put it on the "Building podzilla for desktop" page 17:10 < macpod> oh 17:10 < piratePenguin> what the hell would I want with a mac? :p 17:11 < macpod> shows how much I pay attentinon to logs 17:11 < fre_ber> I updated the source tar, it should be in a containing podzilla folder now... 17:11 < courtc> :) 17:11 < piratePenguin> yawn, is my cable fuxored? 17:12 -!- Thijs [~mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 < Thijs> hey! 17:12 < fre_ber> Hello 17:12 < macpod> hey 17:13 < Thijs> Good evening all, and a happy new year to leachbj and macpod 17:13 < macpod> woo 2005 17:13 < piratePenguin> and me ? 17:13 < courtc> hey Thijs 17:13 < Thijs> alexander and piratePenguin also a very good 200 17:13 < Thijs> and nilss 17:13 < piratePenguin> you too Thijs 17:13 < Thijs> loofus 17:13 < Thijs> and others i forgot 17:14 < piratePenguin> can I make a C program to like, check what parts of the cable are/aren't working? like the data bus or whatever... 17:14 < courtc> 200? hah, you 2 have gone backwards 17:14 < Thijs> 2005 i mean 17:14 < piratePenguin> nooo! 17:15 < fre_ber> I'm thinking that it is about year 12000 something, and that new years eve was on dec 21. 17:15 < Thijs> Everbody here a very good 0x07D5 !!! 17:16 < Thijs> but ok.. enough happy wishes 17:16 < Thijs> back to 4G support 17:16 < fre_ber> Oh no, not that.. ;) 17:17 < courtc> 011111010101? 17:17 < Thijs> correct 17:17 < courtc> yay, I know my binary :) 17:17 < Thijs> 3725(8) 17:17 < piratePenguin> is there such a thing as a firewire to firewire (600 or course) cable? I think that might work... 17:18 < fre_ber> Yes, but you might need to get a gender changer as well. 17:18 < Thijs> buy a 6P/4P cable 17:19 < Thijs> put the 6p in a 6P port, and the 4p in a 4P port 17:19 < piratePenguin> not 4pins... 17:19 < Thijs> kidding 17:19 < Thijs> dont know 17:19 < piratePenguin> I have this thing for the ipod.. plugs into it and I get a firewire (in, I think) and usb out connector..... 17:20 < courtc> firewire to firewire? thats all my ipod came with 17:20 < piratePenguin> I needa cable 17:20 < piratePenguin> I can use the usb on the pc, but cant setup a network thru USB... 17:20 < Thijs> is leachbj out for dinner? 17:21 < fre_ber> piratePenguin: I have such a cable, 6P6P plus a gender changer. But I can't put it into my iPod, of course. 17:21 < macpod> he just drove really far. probably passed out 17:21 < piratePenguin> fre_ber: I can cause I have this adapter... 17:21 < Thijs> macpod: ok 17:22 < fre_ber> Well, then it is just a matter of buyng that cable from any computer supply store. 17:22 < courtc> whats the vim command for dos2unix? 17:22 < fre_ber> Lol, I gave you more problems, did I? 17:23 < courtc> yea, but this one isnt your fault.. 17:23 < courtc> ::) 17:23 < fre_ber> Actually I could set Emacs to use proper line breaks... 17:23 < piratePenguin> fre_ber: yep.. cheers.. least now I know the cable exists 17:24 < courtc> nah, I'll get it fixed.. 17:24 < Thijs> courtc: http://linux-france.unixtech.be/article/appli/vi/vim/ ( French :( ) 17:25 < fre_ber> courtc: Aha, that might be the reasing for the bogus diff report... 17:25 < fre_ber> *reason 17:25 < Thijs> courtc: VIM est un éditeur de texte particulièrement puissant et rapide. ( Text editor like vi ) 17:26 < courtc> hmm.. I don't know how to say ' I don't know french' in french 17:26 < fre_ber> Je ne parle pas francais? 17:26 < macpod> no comprende frances 17:26 < Thijs> Francais 17:26 < fre_ber> or that 17:26 < fre_ber> Eh spanish? 17:26 < macpod> yea 17:26 < fre_ber> lol 17:27 < courtc> sed 's/^M$//' 17:27 < Thijs> Cava?? Cava Bien.. je ne parle pas francais 17:27 < fre_ber> courtc: That ought to do it. 17:27 < piratePenguin> Nil fhois agaibh cen teanga a taim ag caint :) 17:27 < fre_ber> Thijs: Lol, I don't either, that is about it for me.. :) 17:27 < Thijs> fre_ber et une connard ! 17:28 < fre_ber> Hmm... 17:28 < Thijs> just kidding 17:28 < fre_ber> I understand that I'm supposed to be something... 17:28 < Thijs> its was something like fre_ber is an asshole 17:28 < fre_ber> Oook... 17:28 < piratePenguin> Gaelige, anyone? 17:28 < Thijs> i dont know much french either 17:28 < fre_ber> Lol, no. 17:29 < fre_ber> @pirate 17:29 < piratePenguin> cad? 17:29 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 < Thijs> our teacher only explained what to say when u want to share a bed with a girl 17:29 < piratePenguin> cen fadh a ta tu ag gaire orm fre_ber ? 17:29 < fre_ber> Voulez-vous couchez avec moi c'est soir? 17:30 < Thijs> words like coucher indeed 17:30 < fre_ber> This is starting to get ugly... 17:30 < Thijs> yes 17:30 < fre_ber> ;) 17:30 < piratePenguin> Na bi ag caint i Francis! 17:30 < Thijs> lets talk dutch :) 17:30 < fre_ber> lmao 17:30 < piratePenguin> nil fios agam caint i dutch :( 17:31 < Thijs> Hallo lieve mensen, Daar ben ik dan 17:31 < piratePenguin> na bi ag cainti Dutch, Thijs! 17:32 < piratePenguin> s/caint/caint i/ 17:32 < Thijs> :) 17:32 < fre_ber> I'm starting to think that you can't speag french or dutch, pirate. 17:32 < fre_ber> *speak 17:32 < piratePenguin> car..... 17:32 < piratePenguin> bonjour, je m'appelle piratePenguin 17:33 < Thijs> or german.. even better :) 17:33 < courtc> Nihon-jin ja arimasen 17:33 < fre_ber> Very nice! 17:33 < fre_ber> Aha, japanese! 17:33 < piratePenguin> fdsfj sdjbndsfj bn 17:33 < piratePenguin> I bet I'm the only one here that knows how to say "hello" in Irish ? 17:33 < courtc> leachbj, see what happened when you left? 17:33 < fre_ber> I won't bet against you. 17:34 < fre_ber> Lol @ courtc. 17:34 < Thijs> ʣãΣΡˡ¡Êƹñ³ÆÃϤξå¶õ¤ÇǯËö¡¢Èô¹ÔÃæ¤Î¹Ò¶õµ¡Áà½Ä»Î¤òÁÀ¤Ã¤Æ¥ì¡¼¥¶¡¼¸÷Àþ¤¬¾È¼Í¤µ¤ì¤ë»ö·ï¤¬Á꼡¤®¡¢Áܺº¤ËÃå¼ê¤·¤¿Ï¢Ë®Áܺº¶É¡Ê£Æ£Â£É¡Ë¤Ï£±·î£±Æü¡¢¤¦¤Á¥Ë¥å 17:34 < piratePenguin> heh 17:34 < Thijs> piratePenguin: hello in irish ? 17:35 < piratePenguin> Dia duit 17:35 < Thijs> hehhe.. iam proud iam not living in ireland 17:35 < piratePenguin> :| 17:35 < Thijs> sry 17:36 < piratePenguin> slan go fol, Thijs! 17:36 < piratePenguin> is fuath liom Thijs 17:36 < Thijs> in east holland we say it like: 'Goeindaag' 17:36 < piratePenguin> go-ing-down 17:36 < Thijs> no 17:37 < Thijs> letterly it mean good day 17:37 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:37 < Thijs> like good morning 17:37 < courtc> I'd say something about getting on-topic but I'm not sure we ever were on topic 17:37 < piratePenguin> dia duit actually means god bless you but what the hell 17:37 < Thijs> hehe 17:37 < Thijs> ok 17:38 < Thijs> so where can more information about the PP5020 be taken. Hardware architecture isnt available for public 17:38 < piratePenguin> no.. it means god be with you.. (dia = god, duit = with you) 17:38 < Thijs> only when buying them ( Firmware dev kit, Software Dev Kit ) 17:39 < Thijs> so i wonder how leachbj managed how to got the PP5020 page so detailed 17:39 < piratePenguin> how come my ipod can charge with my firewire cable, and nothing happens when I plug it into my pc? 17:40 < Thijs> maybe only the 4 wires are connected and the voltage pins are left out 17:40 < courtc> Thijs, hes got connections.. 17:40 < Thijs> hmm 17:40 < Thijs> do i read it wrong 17:40 < piratePenguin> my cable is like... I took off the brown table... 17:40 < Thijs> so u can charge but not read data 17:40 < piratePenguin> s/table/tape/ ! 17:41 < piratePenguin> Thijs: yes... 17:41 < Thijs> OS ? 17:41 < piratePenguin> linux 17:41 < Thijs> hmm 17:41 < Thijs> does other firewire devices work ? 17:41 < Thijs> do 17:41 < piratePenguin> dont have any other firewire devices 17:42 < fre_ber> I get that when I put both my cables togheter to extend it's length. 17:42 < Thijs> try: head /dev/sda1 17:42 < Thijs> can u see dataflow 17:42 < fre_ber> As if it is very sensitive to signal loss. 17:43 < piratePenguin> head: cannot open `/dev/sda1' for reading: No such file or directory 17:43 -!- evergreen [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:43 < Thijs> is the ipod in disk mode 17:43 < Thijs> or just in play mode 17:44 < piratePenguin> disk 17:44 < Thijs> and do you see any mountpoints different than local hard drives when typing: mount 17:45 < piratePenguin> nope... nothing happens when I plug in the ipod..... 17:45 < Thijs> stranfe 17:45 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:46 < Thijs> i have no firewire on ly laptop( linux) so i use an USB cable 17:46 < Thijs> that works 17:46 < piratePenguin> not for networking the ipod with the pc 17:46 < Thijs> dont know about firewire and linux 17:47 < Hostile> Thijs: I have firewire working in linux 17:47 < Thijs> Hostile: support piratePenguin :) 17:47 < piratePenguin> :) 17:48 -!- evergreen [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 17:49 < courtc> fre_ber, this is stable on the ipod? 17:49 < fre_ber> I think so. 17:49 < fre_ber> It hasn't crashed on me yet. 17:50 < Thijs> brr its cold in here 17:50 < Thijs> bbl. out for pizza 17:51 < piratePenguin> I'm just gonna tear up my cable some mor 17:51 < piratePenguin> e 17:52 < courtc> fre_ber, there are some warping asteroids.. 17:53 < fre_ber> Yes, I know, I don't know what is causing that yet.. :( 17:53 < piratePenguin> uh-oh.. 17:54 < fre_ber> courtc: The only thing that could be remotely out of the ordinary is that I render stuff in root_wid using root_gc. But I don't think anything can affect other parts of podzilla. 17:54 < fre_ber> The asteroid warping was there in the previous version too, I think. 17:54 < piratePenguin> there goes my cable 17:55 < fre_ber> Out the window? 17:55 < piratePenguin> not yet.... 17:55 < piratePenguin> theres 6 wires still connected... looks like I tore up the rest 17:55 < piratePenguin> if they're enuff to charge up - I'm happy 17:56 < piratePenguin> YES! its *still* charging.... lovely stuff 17:57 < fre_ber> Like Thijs, I'm goung for a pizza... brb 17:58 < piratePenguin> some amount of ppl on irc love their pizzas 17:58 < piratePenguin> feck it, I'm getting one :) 17:58 < courtc> wow 18:00 < courtc> fre_ber I see no score? and nano-x spist out about 50 of these when you die 'nano-X: GsError Bad graphics context: 0' 18:00 < piratePenguin> any chance of getin a network setup without firewire? 18:00 < courtc> no clue piratePenguin 18:00 < fre_ber> courtc: Whoa, then maybe we should wait a bit with this one... 18:01 < fre_ber> Hmm, I don't get any of those... 18:02 < fre_ber> Sounds as if it can't find the globalized root_gc properly.. Hmmm 18:02 < fre_ber> Only when you die? 18:02 < courtc> yep.. 18:02 < courtc> looks like it.. 18:03 < fre_ber> Strange, I would have thought that if it would come it would come while rendering to the root window, but that happens all the time - except when at the score page. 18:03 < fre_ber> Can you see the reserve ships in the title bar? 18:03 < courtc> nope 18:04 < fre_ber> Ok, then it is related to that anyway... 18:04 < courtc> yea, I get errors at startup also.. 18:05 < fre_ber> Ok. It doesn't work to use root_wid and root_gc then, I wonder why it works for me... 18:05 < fre_ber> In Steroids/globals.h I declare these two variables as global, at least I think I do... 18:06 < courtc> yep.. 18:06 < fre_ber> They were not meant to be used like this... 18:09 < piratePenguin> err... I dont get this.. firewire (600) has 6 pins right? ... why is there som many wires insude the cable part that goes into the ipod? (about 18, I'd say) 18:10 < fre_ber> I might have to re-write this so that I don't use the root window. But that means copying pz_draw_header and draw_batt_status.. :( 18:11 < fre_ber> pirate: The dock port on the iPod has lots of goodies. 18:11 < piratePenguin> dont think I can use it without a cable :p 18:11 < piratePenguin> oh.... I see... 18:12 < fre_ber> Courtc: I will have to check out podzilla from CVS again and see if I get the same error as you. Maybe I did something terrible during the night this code was concieved... 18:15 < courtc> fre_ber, I just made your tarball, I didnt checkout anything.. 18:15 < fre_ber> Oh, that is extra strange... 18:16 < courtc> pz_draw_header just draws the text in the center at the top, its like two or three lines of code.. 18:17 < piratePenguin> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Dock_Connector excellent 18:17 < courtc> you could just add a window that covers the top part of the screen.. everything but the battery 18:17 < fre_ber> Yes, I know, but the good thing is to use the same function as the other windows so that changes to that also happens in Steroids. This nullifies the ships I draw there, so it isn't good either way. 18:18 < fre_ber> Ah, good thinking. 18:21 < fre_ber> I will fix that as soon as I have eaten this pizza. :) 18:22 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup055.ts002.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:22 < courtc> can someone hook me up with an iTunesDB? 18:23 < fre_ber> I think that I still have problems getting to mine, but I will try. 18:23 < courtc> I just need one with more than 5 files in it :/ 18:24 < fre_ber> That I can't provide. It is all or nothing.. ;) 18:24 < courtc> 5m is fine.. as long as it has at least 5 18:25 < courtc> err 6 18:25 < fre_ber> ZModem fails, CRC errors... I don't know why it doesn't work. :( 18:26 < fre_ber> lrz works fine, but not lsz. 18:27 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:27 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:29 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:29 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:33 -!- jp31173 [~chatzilla@ool-18e400e7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 -!- Goek [~goek@0x503e5269.kjnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:36 < Goek> Hey, i just got my ipod 4g, and i have problems mounting it. 18:38 < Goek> I know its prepared for windows(vfat), but when i try to; mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/iPod - it says that "mount: special devide /dev/sda2 does not exist 18:38 < Goek> what do i do know? 18:39 < Goek> i meant, what to do now? 18:41 < courtc> are you using firewire or usb? 18:41 < Goek> usb 18:41 < Goek> it looks like usb. 18:41 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:41 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 18:42 < courtc> Unfortunatly thats the wrong answer... I know nothing about usb mass storage devices.. 18:42 < Goek> ok 18:43 < Goek> well 18:43 < Goek> if you can help me if i plug in the firewire cord, i'll do that. 18:43 < Hostile> Goek: as root do tail -f /var/log/messages 18:43 < Hostile> Goek: then insert the USB 18:43 < Hostile> and it should say stuff 18:44 -!- jp31173 [~chatzilla@ool-18e400e7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]"] 18:45 < Goek> i need to pull out the usb, do 'tail -f xxxx' and then put it in again? 18:46 < Hostile> Goek: yeah 18:47 -!- Goek [~goek@0x503e5269.kjnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:48 -!- Goek [~goek@0x503e5269.kjnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 18:49 < courtc> macpod, can I borrow your iTunesDB? 18:49 < macpod> sure 18:49 < macpod> lemme get it 18:50 < Hostile> anyone have any solutions...I have 2 duplicate OutKast entrys in artists 18:50 < Hostile> and 2 duplicate Static-X entrys 18:50 < macpod> delete one 18:50 < macpod> that happened to me 18:50 < macpod> you gotta take the music files out of your librry 18:50 < Goek> Hostile, that tail-command... 18:50 < Goek> what was it? 18:50 < courtc> Hostile, you need to learn how to use caps? 18:50 < macpod> delete them 18:50 < Hostile> macpod: how do I delete one? 18:51 < Hostile> Goek: tail -f /var/log/messages 18:51 < courtc> OutKast/Outkast <- not the same 18:51 < Hostile> yes I realize that 18:51 < macpod> true 18:51 < Hostile> but I think they are both OutKast 18:51 < macpod> rename one 18:51 < Goek> tail: cannot open `/var/log/messeages' for reading: No such file or directory 18:51 < Goek> tail: no files remaining 18:51 < macpod> then rename it outkast again 18:51 < macpod> and it will fix itself 18:51 < courtc> try /var/log/messages Goek 18:52 < Goek> ahr, ok 18:52 < Hostile> macpod: they are both Outkast 18:52 < Hostile> and both Static-X 18:52 < macpod> rename of the matches 18:52 < macpod> to test 18:52 < macpod> then change it back to outkast 18:52 < macpod> and it will go away 18:53 < macpod> court you getting that file? 18:53 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:53 < courtc> yep, thanks 18:53 < Hostile> how do I rename...I use linux 18:53 < macpod> you have to change it using itunes 18:53 < macpod> or gtkpod 18:54 < macpod> or whatever the linux substitute for itunes is 18:54 < Goek> [goek@psykose ~]$ tail -f /var/log/messages 18:54 < Goek> Jan 2 00:02:02 psykose syslogd 1.4.1: restart. 18:54 < Goek> it prints nothing when i insert the usb 18:54 < Hostile> hrm your usb doesnt work then 18:55 < Goek> ... 18:55 < Hostile> hrmm 18:56 < Hostile> macpod: gtkpod says Outkast the first one has 2 songs 18:56 < Hostile> and the second one has another song 18:56 < macpod> you probably have a space at the end of the artist name then 18:56 < macpod> rename one to test 18:56 < Hostile> you cant rename 18:57 < macpod> why not? how do you import songs? 18:57 < Hostile> by adding it 18:57 < courtc> macpod, hmm.. that file is giving me a segmentation fault.. 18:57 < macpod> do you want an empty itunesdb? 18:57 < courtc> nm 18:57 < nilss> re. 18:57 < Goek> to ipod starts and tells me not to disconnect it. 18:58 < courtc> I fingered it out. 18:58 < fre_ber> Hi, Nilss 18:58 < macpod> hostile can you remove songs? 18:58 < Hostile> yes 18:58 < macpod> delete it and then readd it 18:58 < macpod> no 18:58 < macpod> hmm 18:58 < macpod> you really should be able to rename your songs 18:59 < Hostile> macpod: I tried that last night 18:59 < Goek> .. 18:59 < macpod> I guess you could change the name by editing the id3 tags in the sound file 18:59 < macpod> but that is messy 19:00 < Hostile> I tryed that 19:00 < Hostile> they are both the same 19:00 < Hostile> identical 19:01 < macpod> you sure there arent invisible characters? 19:01 < macpod> or a space at the end of the name? 19:01 < Hostile> yep 19:01 < Hostile> the iPod sees the 2 entrys as identical 19:01 < Hostile> gtkpod does not 19:01 < Goek> my ipod starts up and tells me not to disconnect it, but it doesnt say anything in tail -f /var/log/messages 19:01 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:02 < macpod> no hazing veteran 19:02 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:02 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:02 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v veteran ] by ChanServ 19:02 < veteran> hazing? 0.0 19:02 < Hostile> Goek: is there /dev/sdb? 19:03 < courtc> hey zing! 19:03 < veteran> sup rise 19:03 * veteran groans 19:03 < Hostile> oh well screw it..Ill try to fix it with ephpod later 19:03 < Goek> [root@psykose goek]# mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod 19:03 < Goek> mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist 19:03 < Goek> [root@psykose goek]# mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ipod 19:03 < Goek> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist 19:04 < Goek> i guess not 19:04 < Hostile> /dev/sda? 19:04 < veteran> fdisk -l 19:04 < Goek> mount: special device /dev/sda does not exist 19:04 < Goek> ' 19:05 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 -!- evergree1 [~florian@p83.129.173.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:05 < macpod> time to look for a job later 19:06 < courtc> bin tester? 19:07 < courtc> http://www.jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/podzilla for whoever 19:09 < Goek> i use archlinux, and in pacman i found this program called 'usbview' - it can't open saying: verify that you have USB compiled into your kernel, have the usb core modules loaded and have the usbdevfs filesystem mounted 19:09 < Goek> 'Can not open the file /proc/bus/usb/devices 19:11 < veteran> modprobe something 19:11 < Goek> ..? 19:11 < courtc> haha.. just anything ;) 19:12 < veteran> quick, somebody modprobe something! 19:12 < fre_ber> lmnao 19:12 < veteran> =) just kidding 19:12 < veteran> what's the usb module's name? i forgot 19:13 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95321A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:13 < fre_ber> Whoops, I do not recommend that you open a window in podzilla with NULL as the event handler... Grr... 19:13 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD95321A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:14 < Goek> the usb modules name? 19:14 < Goek> i'm a little too dumb to understand that one. 19:14 < courtc> Goek: mount -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb 19:14 < veteran> haha null 19:14 < veteran> at least you have a serial adapter :/ 19:14 < Goek> [root@psykose goek]# mount -t usbdevfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb 19:14 < Goek> mount: usbdevfs already mounted or /proc/bus/usb busy 19:14 < Goek> mount: according to mtab, usbdevfs is already mounted on /proc/bus/usb 19:15 < fre_ber> Funny, podzilla returned to the shell, but all the windows are still there on the iPod.. :| 19:15 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:16 < courtc> fre_ber, eat my bin 19:16 < Goek> courtc, - what to do with that? 19:16 < courtc> I mean test 19:16 < veteran> watch your mouth 19:16 < fre_ber> What's in it? 19:16 < courtc> More lines 19:16 < fre_ber> Ok, sold. 19:19 < courtc> Did you see the url? 19:19 < fre_ber> Yes, downloading to iPod now. 19:20 < fre_ber> ZModem is slooow 19:20 -!- goek_ [~goek@0x503e5269.kjnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ipodlinux 19:20 < goek_> crash. 19:21 < fre_ber> Ah, you weren't kidding when you said "more lines". Great! 19:21 < goek_> if anyone wrote something after i posted my mount usbdevfs xxx xxx i didn't read it 19:21 < courtc> haha 19:21 < goek_> ? 19:22 < courtc> more lines indeed! 19:22 < fre_ber> In all interpretations of the phrase. 19:23 < goek_> if it's me your writing, i don't get it. 19:23 < goek_> :) 19:23 < fre_ber> (It also managed to reset the display of my iPod, thanks. :) ) 19:23 < courtc> goek_, modprobe usb-storage 19:24 < goek_> courtc, - it does not print anything. 19:24 < goek_> but, i did it. 19:24 < courtc> goek_, thats good.. 19:25 < goek_> but i still cant mount it 19:25 < courtc> lsmod | grep usb 19:26 < courtc> fre_ber, how it look? ok? 19:27 < goek_> [root@psykose goek]# lsmod | grep usb 19:27 < goek_> usb_storage 70848 0 19:27 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:28 < courtc> modprobe usbcore scsi_mod 19:29 < goek_> FATAL: Module usbcore not found. 19:29 < courtc> modprobe scsi_mod; cat /proc/scsi/scsi 19:29 < courtc> dump it in #ipodlinuxflood 19:31 < goek_> FATAL: Module scsi_mod not found. 19:31 < goek_> Attached devices: 19:31 < courtc> is that it? 19:31 < goek_> yup 19:31 < courtc> and your ipod is plugged in? 19:32 < goek_> ja 19:32 < goek_> and saying ' do not disconnect' ( or something, it is in danish ) 19:35 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EABD20.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:37 < fre_ber> courtx: Sorry whay? "more lines"? That looks fine, didin't check all the menus though. 19:37 < fre_ber> As usual my typing gets worse... 19:38 < courtc> heh, I just need to make sure I looks decent 19:38 < courtc> It* 19:39 < Hostile> goek_: I use archlinux also 19:39 < Hostile> courtc: new podzilla for me to test 19:39 < Hostile> ? 19:39 < courtc> Hostile, you can test it also if you want... 19:39 < Hostile> courtc: link? 19:39 < courtc> ^ 19:40 < fre_ber> courtc: Yes, it looks fine here. 19:40 < Hostile> http://www.jbergler.mizer.net/ipodlinux/courtc/podzilla? 19:40 < courtc> yes 19:40 < Hostile> me telnets into iPod 19:40 < Hostile> wait 19:40 * Hostile telnets into iPod 19:40 < fre_ber> I wish that I could do that.. :| 19:41 < Hostile> why can't you? 19:41 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:41 < courtc> Oh, but you can... Why are you using windows again? 19:41 < Hostile> 4g? 19:41 < Hostile> Windows... 19:41 < Hostile> pfft 19:41 < fre_ber> Lol. The games man.. The games... 19:42 < Hostile> is that some crappy old OS? 19:42 < Hostile> hrm never heard of it 19:42 < fre_ber> Yes, it is crappy and old... 19:42 < fre_ber> But linux isn't very new either.. ;) 19:42 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup312.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:43 < Hostile> lol 19:43 < courtc> kernel.org: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.10 2004-12-24 22:38 UTC 19:43 < Hostile> courtc: how do I transfer a file over telnet? 19:43 < piratePenguin> I been doing an awful loada disecting my cable while my brother was on my pc... whata cheap able.. the plastic tastes like shite 19:44 < courtc> Hostile, netcat is probably the only way to get it there without corruption 19:44 < piratePenguin> cable* 19:44 < Hostile> courtc: hrm ok 19:44 < Hostile> courtc: so how do I use netcat? 19:45 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:45 < courtc> Hostile, you have to get it and compile for your ipod.. :/ 19:45 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 19:45 < Hostile> courtc: alright I dl'ed it now what? 19:45 < courtc> downloaded...? netcat? 19:45 < Hostile> yea 19:46 < courtc> I dunno how to use it... Read a website or something.. 19:46 < Hostile> lol 19:47 -!- acs [~acs@163.Red-217-126-151.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Terminando cliente"] 19:48 < piratePenguin> any ideas how I can make a firewire (date only) cable..... ? http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Dock_Connector has aloada *excellent* info for the ipod side of things, but I dunno bout the firewire port :s 19:49 < piratePenguin> all I need is pins: 22 24 26 28 I think.... 19:50 < piratePenguin> but where do they go in the firewire card? 19:51 < piratePenguin> or is this a bad idea? 19:52 < piratePenguin> http://www.frontx.com/cpx105_2p5.gif w00t! 19:58 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php?title=Podzilla&diff=0&oldid=1483 19:58 < fre_ber> Hmm... The second window doesn't show up... I must be doing something wrong... 19:59 < Hostile> courtc: Im using wget to get it off my apache..shall that work fine? 19:59 < fre_ber> Good job courtc! 20:00 < courtc> Hostile, dunno.. It might 20:00 < veteran> courtc - any clue as to why VBR slows down? 20:01 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:01 < veteran> i didn't think it was possible for mp3 playback to actually "slow" 20:01 < veteran> neat effect ;) 20:02 < courtc> veteran, the ipp decoder is crap? 20:04 < Hostile> courtc: alright new podzilla works 20:04 < Hostile> courtc: changes? 20:04 < courtc> I'll have to take a look at mp3decoder.c and see if the problem is in there.. But my guess is that its the actual ipp libs 20:05 < courtc> Hostile, if you cant tell thats awesome.. 20:05 < Hostile> is it? 20:05 < courtc> did you look at that last link i posted? 20:05 < Hostile> no I will 20:06 < veteran> hah okay well if you figure it out let me know =p 20:07 < veteran> i'm trying to get it to slow on purpose 20:07 < Hostile> courtc: I read it 20:08 < courtc> and you still dont know whats different? 20:08 < Hostile> nope because I've never read it before 20:08 < courtc> the change is right there at the top ... 20:08 < Hostile> l 20:08 < Hostile> k* 20:09 < Hostile> 6 options per screen instead of 5 20:09 < courtc> Hey, there you go.. 20:09 < Hostile> :) 20:10 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 20:10 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup312.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:12 < Hostile> courtc: I found a bug in podzilla 20:12 < Hostile> say I go to the music menu...then come back to the main menu it still says music 20:12 < courtc> I found a bug up your nose... 20:12 < Hostile> same thing with extras...settings..etc 20:12 < courtc> Yep 20:12 < Hostile> k 20:12 < Hostile> figured you knew 20:13 < Hostile> alright my iPod just shut down instead of rebooting..=o 20:13 < courtc> Hostile, doesnt happen.. 20:14 < Hostile> eh? 20:14 < courtc> I'm calling you a liar. 20:15 < Hostile> lol 20:15 < Hostile> it just did 20:16 < Hostile> Holding down the menu button for a few seconds should turn on / off blacklight, you should work on that next...that would be very nice 20:16 < courtc> Hostile, you should work on getting that bug out of your nose, its disgusting.. 20:16 < Hostile> lol 20:17 < Hostile> Right... 20:19 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:23 < courtc> Hostile, I guess my point there was that its not nice to tell me what i _should_ be working on.. It's fine to suggest things e.g. 'courtc: you know what would be really nice? The backlight feature that the apple fireware has' To which i would have responded 'Hostile: The apple firmware is shiet, go preach in #iloveapple' Anyway I forgot what my point was.. 20:29 < fre_ber> Hmm, more thing seems to be wrong with this version of Steroids... I must have jumped the gun there... Or whatever the expression is... 20:35 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:35 * veteran chuckles 20:38 -!- oomspeter [~chatzilla@62-3-250-161.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 < oomspeter> hi sll 20:38 < oomspeter> all 20:38 < oomspeter> hello? 20:39 < goek_> Hello 20:39 < oomspeter> hi 20:39 < oomspeter> hey, is there any possibility of this damaging my ipod? 20:40 < oomspeter> hey, if mobody in this IRQ is gonna talk to me, i might as well just go 20:41 -!- oomspeter [~chatzilla@62-3-250-161.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 20:41 -!- oomspeter [~chatzilla@62-3-250-161.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 20:41 -!- oomspeter [~chatzilla@62-3-250-161.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 20:46 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0070.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 < piratePenguin> making this cable is....... fun :p 20:49 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0070.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:51 -!- Thijs [~mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 20:58 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:58 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 20:59 -!- Luke [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:09 -!- Luke_ [~blindspy@69-171-45-16.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:11 -!- jp31173 [~chatzilla@ool-18e400e7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:23 < Hostile> courtc: lmao 21:26 < fre_ber> Ok, I think I'm slowly getting on top of things here... 21:26 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["*** Swish changes topic to '"I never pirated it....it was donated. by the file fairy. I put a blank CD under my pillow..."'"] 21:27 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-75.tbaytel.net] has quit ["leaving"] 21:29 < fre_ber> Ju8st to be safe, I managed to get a bunch of those "nano-X: GsError Bad graphics context: 0" myself. This time for trying to draw in a window that wasn't open. 21:42 -!- caaaaaam [~doom@pool-138-88-249-17.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:43 < caaaaaam> Hello 21:45 < courtc> hi caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam 21:46 < courtc> get to work 21:47 < caaaaaam> on whaaaaaaaaaat 21:48 < courtc> Um, that image viewer? 21:48 < caaaaaam> What of it, though? 21:48 < courtc> Dunno, what have you changed? 21:48 < caaaaaam> I mean, what's left? 21:49 < caaaaaam> Nothing since I was last in here 21:49 < courtc> The not crashing part 21:49 < courtc> :D 21:50 < courtc> I think its a malloc problem.. Maybe.. 21:51 < fre_ber> Hello cam. It seems as if the code I made last night was ... as expected.. ;) 21:51 < courtc> Can you give me the url to the file again? 21:51 < caaaaaam> It crashes?! 21:52 < courtc> Didnt it? fre_ber ? 21:52 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: Hey there! It was... drivelly? 21:53 < fre_ber> Did it? The image viewer? It worked fine as far as I can remember... 21:53 < courtc> Oh 21:53 < fre_ber> I even showed it to some people on new years eve.. ;) 21:53 < courtc> Um.. then the resizing part 21:53 < fre_ber> But I only tried the binary though. 21:53 < fre_ber> Resizing? No, never seen that. 21:53 < caaaaaam> Well, courtc, the only "crash"-like thing was where it didn't open one jpeg file that might have been corrupted or something, but that was not a crash that I introduced-- it was merely a "if the mwin picture load function doesn't return correctly just abort" 21:54 < caaaaaam> That behavior was already there 21:54 < courtc> oh, ok 21:54 < caaaaaam> I supposed we could (ought to) put a new_message() or whatever before the return just so users know what's happenin' 21:54 < caaaaaam> er, suppose 21:54 < courtc> caaaaaam, that'd be purty 21:54 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: What did people think? 21:55 < caaaaaam> courtc: Purty, unlike the rest of podzilla :( 21:55 < fre_ber> Cool, but they aren't much into iPod, and espescially not iPodLinux.. :) 21:55 < courtc> hey, whats wrong with the rest of podzilla? 21:55 < fre_ber> Nothing, espescially now after your thing.. :) 21:56 < caaaaaam> Haha. Someone showed me the ipod test mode on new year's... there's a part where you can make the piezo sound like a laser gun. We should make that a program. 21:56 < fre_ber> Someone suggested it for Steroids, I'll have to look into that some day. 21:56 < caaaaaam> I dunno about zoom, but I'll look into it if you think it's worth it 21:57 < caaaaaam> well, fre_ber, as long as you can turn it off... beeping things can get really annoying 21:57 < fre_ber> Indeed. 21:57 < caaaaaam> like if we were to write a tamagotchi-esque app 21:57 < caaaaaam> hahaha. 21:57 < fre_ber> Oh, I almost choked on my Coke, reading that... 21:57 < caaaaaam> courtc: Well, it's just not visually perfect, as would be expected 21:57 < courtc> caaaaaam, we could make an entire program dedicated to the piezo, just write random crap to /dev/ttyS1 21:57 < caaaaaam> Hehe 21:57 < fre_ber> Love the idea... 21:58 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: I know, but it would be so stupid 21:58 < fre_ber> That is exactly why I love it. 21:58 < caaaaaam> courtc: I think it would be nice to have calls for a few standard interface elements so there is consistency between the different parts of podzilla... I mean, there sort of is, but it could be even nicer probably 21:59 < fre_ber> I once made a program that lists all words where the ascii sum equals 666, how is that for random? 21:59 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: Ah, well... guess who is in charge of making useless programs? 21:59 < courtc> haha 21:59 < caaaaaam> Hah-- have you seen that website that will create a numerology report for anything you feed it? 22:00 < fre_ber> No. 22:00 < caaaaaam> Let's see if I can find it 22:01 < caaaaaam> ...and I can't 22:01 < fre_ber> If I promise to fix the newlines and put the files in a containing folder, would you try it again courtc? I have eliminated everything that writes to root_wid - I think. 22:02 < fre_ber> ls 22:02 < fre_ber> oops 22:02 < courtc> yep 22:02 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: Are you talking about steroids? 22:02 < fre_ber> wrong window... Why doesn't ls work in irc? 22:02 < caaaaaam> su 22:02 < caaaaaam> 12345 22:02 < caaaaaam> oops 22:03 < fre_ber> Uh oh, I'v got the same combination on my luggage 22:03 < caaaaaam> Hahaha 22:03 < courtc> hack ~doom@pool-138-88-249-17.res.east.verizon.net -p12345 22:03 < caaaaaam> So, courtc, you fixed the 5-6 thing? 22:03 < courtc> fixed indeed 22:03 < caaaaaam> omg guys i can't see anything 22:03 < caaaaaam> i've been hacked 22:04 < caaaaaam> ...so anyways, what are the "unforseen circumstances" holding up a more advanced menu system? 22:04 < courtc> its a pain in the ass.. 22:04 < caaaaaam> Haha, why? 22:05 < courtc> :) actually its kinda useless until podzilla gets modularized 22:05 < caaaaaam> Oh, wait-- Config? build-time or run-time? 22:05 < caaaaaam> run-time, right? 22:05 < courtc> run-time 22:06 < caaaaaam> Hmm, what is the hard part of modularization? 22:06 < courtc> no dynamic/shared libs/objects 22:06 < caaaaaam> (What do you guys think of an "Images" entry on the root menu or something that filebrowses in /Images 22:06 < caaaaaam> ) 22:06 < caaaaaam> Wait, that cannot be done? 22:07 < fre_ber> Is it just my podzilla Makefile that lacks the reference to mp3decoder.o? 22:07 < courtc> fre_ber, yes 22:07 < fre_ber> I think I have a seriously damaged podzilla setup... Hmmm... 22:07 < caaaaaam> I think that's removed for the x11 build or something 22:08 < courtc> ifneq ($(IPOD),) 22:08 < courtc> OBJS+=\ 22:08 < courtc> mp3decoder.o 22:08 < courtc> endif 22:08 < fre_ber> Oh, me blind... 22:08 < caaaaaam> Are you two the only people who actively hang out in here? 22:09 < fre_ber> I was just curious that it wasn't removed on "make clean" 22:09 < caaaaaam> Or is it just my timezone? 22:09 < fre_ber> The actively part will drastically reduce starting tomorrow. :( 22:09 -!- Dr_Unvisible [~stefan@dynamic-216-26-201-75.tbaytel.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:09 < fre_ber> At least on my behalf 22:10 < courtc> caaaaaam: yea, dynamic crap isnt supported and the toolkit wont compile shared stuff 22:11 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: What's tomorrow? 22:11 < courtc> caaaaaam, its just that I'm active for about 24 hours in a row.. every one else sleeps alot ... 22:12 < fre_ber> You are crazy, courtc. 22:12 < caaaaaam> courtc: Can we expect that to be supported in the near future? 22:12 < fre_ber> I've got to go back to work tomorrow. :( 22:12 < caaaaaam> You could rebel. 22:13 < courtc> caaaaaam, no clue.. ask the uclinux/uclibc people.. 22:13 < fre_ber> Ok, a new attempt: http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/podzilla-steroids-0.2.tar.gz 22:13 < fre_ber> Grr 22:13 < caaaaaam> courtc: Oh. Well, hmm, I wonder if there's a way around it 22:14 < caaaaaam> We could write our own dynamic module loader!!! 22:14 < macpod> hmm 22:14 < fre_ber> http://files.apan.is-a-geek.com/iPodLinux/Steroids/podzilla-steroids-0.2-src.tar.gz 22:15 < fre_ber> If I rebelled, I would probably not be able to be here at all. No job, no money. No money no ISP. No ISP, no #iPodLinux. 22:16 < caaaaaam> Don't consequences just suck. 22:16 < fre_ber> Indeed, they do... 22:17 < caaaaaam> macpod: Idea? 22:18 < fre_ber> Nice, I got a cleaner diff this time, maybe even a correct one. :) 22:18 < macpod> pull an office space movie plan 22:19 < macpod> then work as a construction worker. You get benefits, a workout, and money 22:19 < fre_ber> Nah... Then I would have to use muscles... I don't like that.. 22:19 < courtc> fre_ber, looks really good..I gotta go take care of my niece..' later 22:20 < fre_ber> Ok good night then, I must go soon. 22:20 < caaaaaam> Hmm 22:20 < caaaaaam> Bye courtc 22:21 < macpod> tommorrow I am going to start working on podzilla again 22:21 < macpod> code I was working on came to a hault because apple has not implemented some stuff yet :/ 22:21 < caaaaaam> What are you working on, macpod? 22:21 < macpod> imaging program that will use core image 22:21 < macpod> from 10.4 22:22 < caaaaaam> Uh. Coreimage... on an iPod? 22:23 < macpod> no 22:23 < caaaaaam> Oh, oh, oh.... you were talking about two different things 22:23 < caaaaaam> haha. 22:23 < caaaaaam> I meant, what on podzilla? 22:24 < macpod> redo the image viewer to scale the images before it displays them 22:24 < macpod> and the whole clock/alarm fiasco 22:24 < caaaaaam> Hmm 22:24 < macpod> or a noteviewer 22:24 < macpod> and contact viewer 22:25 < macpod> so probably scaling, noteviewer, calendar, then clock 22:25 < caaaaaam> Hmm, the imageviewer is what I'm doing now, if that's okay with you 22:25 < macpod> in that order 22:25 < macpod> that's fine 22:25 < caaaaaam> Isn't there already a noteviewer? 22:25 < macpod> sorta 22:25 < caaaaaam> What needs it? 22:25 < macpod> but people request one that is already built in 22:25 < macpod> hmm here is a good plan 22:26 < macpod> what needs to be worked on that nobody is working on? 22:26 < caaaaaam> What do mean? 22:26 < macpod> people want a notes menu 22:26 < caaaaaam> http://ipodlinux.org/Podzilla 22:26 < caaaaaam> Ah 22:26 < fre_ber> What about an HTML renderer? 22:26 < macpod> eh 22:26 < fre_ber> Or wml? 22:26 < caaaaaam> PDF renderer 22:26 < macpod> x.x 22:26 < caaaaaam> PDF would be very helpful 22:26 < fre_ber> Lol, here we go again with these ideas... ;) 22:26 < caaaaaam> maybe really hard though 22:27 < fre_ber> But wouldn't it be cool with Gecko ported? 22:27 < macpod> you know what would be a good idea is if we had a work assignment page 22:27 < fre_ber> We do, sort of. 22:27 < macpod> for the developers so two people arent working ont he same thing 22:28 < macpod> where is that? 22:28 < fre_ber> ^ 22:28 < fre_ber> The podzilla page 22:28 < fre_ber> People are adding names to the features. 22:28 < macpod> ah 22:28 < macpod> caaaaaa**** you are cameron? 22:29 < caaaaaam> Yeah 22:29 < macpod> mk 22:29 < fre_ber> But I'm still only working on things nobody wants. :D 22:29 < caaaaaam> I'm going to finish up the imageviewer, make the menu look better, and then look into shared libraries 22:30 < caaaaaam> fre_ber is going to finish steroids and then write a tamagotchi app 22:30 < caaaaaam> Or so I might guess 22:30 < macpod> haha 22:30 < fre_ber> Changing the toolchain sounds tricky. 22:30 < fre_ber> You forgot the belsebubbler... 22:30 < caaaaaam> That doesn't need to be on an iPod :) 22:30 < fre_ber> Ohh, but it does... 22:30 < fre_ber> The most important of all apps. 22:31 * caaaaaam coughs 22:31 < fre_ber> Lol 22:31 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:31 < caaaaaam> http://www.ucdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/25/1126257&mode=thread 22:31 < fre_ber> Ok. 22:31 < caaaaaam> So, why is this not possible? 22:32 < fre_ber> I don't know. 22:33 < Hostile> brb 22:33 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:33 -!- dju [dju@ip-250.net-82-216-156.suresnes3.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 22:33 < dju> hi 22:33 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:35 < alexander> hello 22:35 < caaaaaam> hi dju 22:35 < fre_ber> Hello 22:36 < caaaaaam> belsebubbler is a really clever name, by the way 22:37 < caaaaaam> macpod: Where are you finding out "what people want"? 22:37 < macpod> forums, etc 22:37 < caaaaaam> I'm just wondering, 'cause nobody put it on the wiki I think 22:37 < caaaaaam> Ah 22:37 < macpod> alot of people email me too 22:37 < fre_ber> Yes, it was the original name, inventet back in 1990 along with the program. (I'm guessing the year here) 22:37 < caaaaaam> Cool 22:38 < caaaaaam> There should really be a centralized feature request place 22:38 < caaaaaam> And bug reporting 22:38 < caaaaaam> Don't you think? 22:38 < macpod> there is, the wiki 22:39 < caaaaaam> Except that it's clearly not covering everything 22:39 < caaaaaam> I mean, it would be nice if e-mail and forum ideas somehow got there too 22:39 < macpod> I'm posting them :) 22:40 < caaaaaam> You're awesome 22:40 < macpod> :) 22:40 < alexander> how's work on the 4g going? 22:41 < alexander> any updates? 22:41 < caaaaaam> I get the feeling that the 4g people are out of town 22:41 < macpod> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/4g 22:41 < macpod> :) 22:41 < alexander> ah yes 22:41 < alexander> the page i created 22:42 * alexander goes to look at it again 22:42 < fre_ber> Yes, what happened to Thijs? He went out for pizza and never came back? 22:42 < macpod> does he live in NY? 22:42 < alexander> no he lives on the other side of the globe 22:42 < fre_ber> Lol, The netherlands, I think 22:42 < alexander> fre_ber is right 22:43 < caaaaaam> Hm, I think I've been able to play back 44.1khz recordings.... 22:43 < alexander> i'm watching this really bad scifi movie called terminal error 22:44 < caaaaaam> How does the wiki handle it if two people submit, like, conflicting updates to a page at the same time? 22:44 < fre_ber> Ah this reminds me, I was supposed to watch a movie about an hour ago... 22:44 < caaaaaam> alexander: Is it one of those movies where it's so bad that it's good? 22:44 < alexander> caaaaaam: We're supposed to believe a computer goofball gives a 'virus' to a kid in a song which gets on the kid's dad's computer and infects multiple city facilities...killing people and blowing up phone booths. Yeah, and the virus is a 'smart virus' which makes judgement calls. No thrills, no monsters to watch (unless you count Timothy Busfield (goofball); or Michael Nouri looking very old, and not even remotely giving a performance. M 22:44 < macpod> like life aquatica 22:44 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: Hot date? 22:44 < alexander> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283542/usercomments 22:45 < alexander> its so funny to watch such bad things 22:45 < fre_ber> caam: ? 22:46 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: The movie you were supposed to go see 22:46 < caaaaaam> Rodentz is a really bad funny movie too 22:46 < fre_ber> No, I can't remember what movie it was, just that I had decided to watch a movie... ;) 22:47 < fre_ber> It's all you people, messing up my schedules... 22:47 < caaaaaam> Gotcha 22:47 < caaaaaam> Do you ever go out? 22:47 < caaaaaam> http://imdb.com/title/tt0292429/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9cm9kZW50enxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=12 22:47 < alexander> it would be cool to watch movies on the ipod ;-) 22:47 < fre_ber> Not much this week.. ;) But I will go to Norway next sunday. :) 22:47 < alexander> User Comments: One of the WORST pieces of GARBAGE I've ever seen! (more) 22:49 < caaaaaam> fre_ber: On work? 22:49 < macpod> reboot 22:49 -!- macpod [~Jeff@pcp07276932pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:49 < caaaaaam> 4-color movies? ouch 22:49 < fre_ber> Only on monday, I get a whole evening out, what a generous company.. :) 22:49 < caaaaaam> Do you live that close to norway? 22:49 < fre_ber> A sunday evening and all.. :roll: 22:50 < fre_ber> Yes, it is about 2-3 hours flight straight west. 22:50 < caaaaaam> Oh, flying... 22:51 < alexander> whats the most requested ipodlinux app that hasn't been created? 22:51 < caaaaaam> So this isn't something you usually do on Sundays 22:51 < fre_ber> No, not often.. 22:51 < fre_ber> A week or two later I go to Geneva, Switzerland. 22:51 < fre_ber> More work. 22:53 < caaaaaam> alexander: I have no idea 22:54 < alexander> ah ok. i might look through the request forum 22:54 < caaaaaam> Looking for something to write? 22:54 < alexander> yeah 22:55 < alexander> although i should be writing something for school 22:55 < alexander> heh 22:55 < caaaaaam> Yeah, don't procrastinate 23:03 -!- tear_dr0p [~knob@135.Red-217-126-206.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:04 < caaaaaam> Alright, well, just checking in... see you 23:04 < fre_ber> Ok going to bed now 23:04 < caaaaaam> Sleep furiously, fre_ber 23:05 < fre_ber> I thank you guys for an interesting week, but that's it for my vacation. 23:05 < fre_ber> Thanks, I will. 23:05 < caaaaaam> Will you not be here at all? 23:05 < fre_ber> I will check in from time to time, but I will probably not be on at suiting times.. :( 23:06 < fre_ber> And no more all-nighters for a while. :) 23:06 < caaaaaam> Ah. Crap. 23:06 < caaaaaam> What's your e-mail address? 23:06 < fre_ber> I know, but such is life.. 23:06 < fre_ber> PM me at the forum or something. :) 23:07 < caaaaaam> Gotcha 23:07 < fre_ber> Good night everybody! 23:07 < caaaaaam> Night 23:07 < caaaaaam> I'm out too 23:07 -!- caaaaaam [~doom@pool-138-88-249-17.res.east.verizon.net] has quit ["bam!"] 23:07 -!- fre_ber [~fre_ber@c-f15b70d5.034-221-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #iPodLinux [] 23:17 -!- Goek [~goek@0x503e5269.kjnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 23:18 -!- piratePenguin [~declan@dialup0475.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:18 < piratePenguin> ARGH!!!! 23:18 < piratePenguin> that was an unbelievable waste of time...... 23:19 < piratePenguin> cant believe I spent bout 6 hours trying to make a cable and then smashed it up when I was nearly done........ 23:20 < piratePenguin> and I almost bruk my charger too.... whoa, it *barly* surives 23:20 * piratePenguin lols at the charger cable 23:22 < piratePenguin> looks like I'm gonna needa buy another fecking *applr* (rip-off) cable..... 23:22 < piratePenguin> s/applr/apple, even 23:24 < Synapse-> piratePenguin: looks like your keyboard isn't holding up too well ;-) 23:24 < piratePenguin> its a microsoft one... but I blacked out the logo :p 23:26 < Synapse-> irssi on mah shell. 23:26 < Synapse-> Hostname: m00t - OS: Linux 2.4.25-1-386/i686 - CPU: Celeron (Mendocino) (305.818 MHz) - Processes: 101 - Uptime: 14d 17h 21m - Load Average: 0.08 - Memory Usage: 65.42MB/187.67MB (34.86%) - Disk Usage: 10.92GB/13.16GB (82.99%) 23:26 < piratePenguin> yup.. cool program, have to get round to using it soon 23:26 < Synapse-> heh 23:27 -!- Synapse- is now known as Nixon 23:28 -!- Nixon is now known as Synapse- 23:28 < piratePenguin> did ya get booted into yer custom kernel anyhow? 23:28 < Synapse-> yeah. 23:28 < Synapse-> Forgot to compile the pcmcia-cs module though.... 23:29 < piratePenguin> lol 23:29 < Synapse-> Thus card services were forgotten. 23:29 < Synapse-> And although I had the yenta-socket compiled, nothing started the cards, it would seem. 23:30 < piratePenguin> recomile with whatever ya missid out, without runnin "make clean" 23:30 < Synapse-> mmkay 23:30 < Synapse-> well I'm going to the beach, so all things geeky are going on hold. 23:31 < piratePenguin> gl 23:34 < piratePenguin> apple is an unbelievable rip-off.... fs 23:39 < alexander> what? 23:39 < alexander> why is apple a rip off? 23:40 < piratePenguin> take a look around http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore/ 23:40 < alexander> lol you pay full price for apple products? 23:41 < piratePenguin> uhh.. I think so 23:41 -!- BleuLlama [~sdlpci@gilliam.cis.rit.edu] has joined #iPodLinux 23:41 < piratePenguin> alexander: you dont? 23:41 < KuRcZ> i do 23:41 * alexander wanders back to http://www.apple.com/education/store/ 23:41 < KuRcZ> well i only have an ipod 23:42 < piratePenguin> lol.. of *course* it wont work for secondary school students... 23:42 < alexander> piratePenguin: what do you mean? 23:42 < KuRcZ> no Canadian Students.... 23:42 < KuRcZ> cuz secondary styudents dont need laptops and stuff 23:43 < alexander> what is secondary school? 23:43 < piratePenguin> 1) I do 2) all the more reason to give it to us 23:43 < piratePenguin> before college 23:44 < piratePenguin> it only works for ppl in college/universities (ie, the ppl that will/do have well-paid jobs and can afford laptops ands stuff).. 23:44 < piratePenguin> or at least will be able to 23:44 < alexander> ah 23:44 < KuRcZ> yea 23:45 < alexander> my mom's a teacher 23:45 < KuRcZ> cool 23:45 < alexander> but they don't actually check to see if you're a teacher 23:45 < alexander> its weird 23:45 < alexander> you just type in your school and you put in your address and voila 23:46 < piratePenguin> heh.. my school obviously wont work :< 23:46 < piratePenguin> gimme a school to enter? 23:46 -!- Hostile [~lanteau@cblmdm207-12-170-65.buckeye-express.com] has quit ["*** Swish changes topic to '"I never pirated it....it was donated. by the file fairy. I put a blank CD under my pillow..."'"] 23:47 < piratePenguin> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71306/wo/BS3nbwV3wj8f3QMergH1NPJdbJu/2.0.11.1.0.6.9.3.5.3.1 :| 23:58 < piratePenguin> http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/irlstore.woa/90505/wo/r84lB1iZlwu82TeVQwS1e3uw9s1/4.0.0.11.1.0.6.9.29.0.1.1.1.1.2.1.0.13 <-- that would work without the dock, right? --- Log closed Mon Jan 03 00:00:01 2005