--- Log opened Fri Dec 17 00:00:02 2004 00:36 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:44 -!- iwilcox [~iwilcox@82-70-118-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit ["Client exiting"] 01:16 -!- xortch [~xortch@D-128-208-42-188.dhcp4.washington.edu] has quit [] 01:53 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:54 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 02:00 < courtc> hah, iMetronome 02:04 < KuRcZ> hey 02:05 < courtc> man, perhaps we should bug leachbj more often.. he seems to get some pretty good work done that way 02:05 < courtc> hiya 02:06 < KuRcZ> lol 02:06 < KuRcZ> whats imetronome? 02:11 < courtc> a metronome on the ipod.. 02:12 < courtc> or perhaps of the ipod 02:57 < veteran> wow thats a good idea 02:57 < veteran> i'm working on porting a guitar tuner 02:57 < veteran> with hope that i can recycle its code for visualizations 03:02 < courtc> would'nt be extremely hard to make a metronome.. but it would only be useful to a select few.. 03:25 < veteran> so you're saying i should work on it? 03:26 < veteran> i think it would get the project good publicity 03:26 < veteran> anything music-related has a huge audience 03:27 < courtc> heh, you do what you think is right ;D 03:29 < courtc> in other words: yes it would be nice, but the people who dont use it will think its bloat.. so we need to move in the module direction 03:33 < veteran> haha well i think that's a consensus 03:33 < veteran> i personally think now that mp3 playback is acceptable, podzilla is ready for a makeover 03:34 < veteran> (modular redesign) 03:35 < courtc> well the problems we were having might be solved by this latest kernel patch.. 03:36 < veteran> which problems? 03:37 < courtc> slowness in general ;) 03:40 < veteran> is it possible to run two microwindows apps at the same time? 03:40 < veteran> to switch between the two 03:41 < courtc> yea 03:41 < courtc> you have to have a nano-X server running 03:42 < veteran> is that the plan? 03:42 < courtc> yup 03:43 < courtc> nano-X server + podzilla(whatever that is) + seperate apps 03:43 < veteran> i can't wait =) 03:45 < courtc> ever get minix to work? 03:45 < veteran> nope 03:45 < veteran> got aggrivated and completely reinstalled ipodlinux 03:46 < courtc> wow.. 03:47 < courtc> sorry it didnt work out for you :/ 03:48 < veteran> nah no problem, i reinstall it a lot 03:48 < courtc> /dev/hda: 03:48 < courtc> Timing buffer-cache reads: 56 MB in 2.06 seconds = 27.18 MB/sec 03:48 < courtc> Timing buffered disk reads: 10 MB in 3.47 seconds = 2.88 MB/sec 03:48 < veteran> is that from the pod!? 03:48 < courtc> oh yea :D 03:48 < courtc> yea 03:48 < veteran> holy! 03:49 < veteran> very nice 03:49 < veteran> ugh now i'm inspired to try minix again 03:49 < veteran> must wait for laptop's battery to charge before i have linux though 03:50 < courtc> who wants a fast kernel? 03:50 * veteran <-- 03:51 < veteran> courtc what did you patch? 03:53 < courtc> just the patch leacbj posted on the forums 03:54 < veteran> ah, haven't checked lateyl 03:56 < courtc> so2.sytes.net/ipod/uClinux-2.4.24-fast.tar.bz2 if you want a bin 03:56 < veteran> thanks 03:57 < Fall> ipod can be charged through usb2.0? 03:58 < veteran> yep if you cross your fingers 03:58 < Fall> oh 03:58 < Fall> how long do i have to have my fingers crossed 03:58 < Fall> ;-) 03:58 < veteran> depends on how old your battery is 03:58 < Fall> i just got it :> 04:17 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:17 -!- drudge [~drudge@alb-24-29-82-1.nycap.rr.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 04:25 -!- Fall [~alarum@CPE-144-137-125-248.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["I wish you would shutttttttttt uppppppppppp!"] 04:31 < normalperson> compiling new kernel 04:31 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:31 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 04:32 < courtc> my kb decided to stop working :/ 04:32 < normalperson> courtc: :( 04:33 < normalperson> getting ready to see how long it'll take to buffer my 13M FLAC file :D 04:34 < normalperson> courtc: did you see my messages late last night/this morning about FLAC (0,1,2 compression) playing? 04:34 < courtc> yea 04:36 < courtc> thats some good stuff.. with the ipod disk speed upped we'll be able to get alot more out of it.. 04:36 < normalperson> yeah :D 04:42 < veteran> better RC5 performance! 05:03 < courtc> *sigh bbl 05:04 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ipodlinux ["cheese.. NOW!"] 05:04 < normalperson> hmm.. I can't even malloc() enough chunks, right now 05:04 < normalperson> but I'll work on a circular buffer implementation, I guess 05:06 < normalperson> my disk is fast now \o/ 05:10 < veteran> =D 05:44 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] --- Log closed Fri Dec 17 05:50:44 2004 --- Log opened Fri Dec 17 05:54:26 2004 05:54 -!- _ipodstats [~stats@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:10 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:11 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 06:47 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:53 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 07:03 -!- EvilDude [pvaranas@CPE-144-133-102-128.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:03 -!- EvilDude [pvaranas@CPE-144-133-102-128.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 07:03 -!- EvilDude [pvaranas@CPE-144-133-102-128.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 07:03 < EvilDude> hello people 07:05 < EvilDude> eevryone dead today :)? 07:05 < EvilDude> :(* 07:15 < courtc> not dead.. 07:17 < EvilDude> hey, have you read about the disk breakthrough thing =D? 07:18 < courtc> <- expmod8 07:19 < EvilDude> oh rofl 07:19 < EvilDude> didn't realise lol 07:19 < EvilDude> well can you tell me what I need to modify like in bin format to get this speed :P? 07:20 < courtc> i can give you a compile kernel :O 07:20 < courtc> compiled* 07:21 < EvilDude> yeah that'd be cool, but is the whole kernel necesary or just one file 07:21 < EvilDude> coz I can access the files in the kernel image 07:21 < courtc> the kernel needs to be recompiled 07:22 < EvilDude> ohh damn well can you send me file then :)? lol 07:23 < courtc> so2.sytes.net/ipod/uClinux-2.4.24-fast.tar.bz2 07:23 < EvilDude> thanks 07:23 < courtc> yup.. 07:24 < EvilDude> hmm I'm gonna try a few things tonight then, do you have any idea how to use the second processor lol 07:26 < courtc> leachbj: it's quite simple though. the bootloader is at 0x0, it has some code that says if COP wait here, then the CPU goes, find the image to load, puts it in memory, then sets a variable to the start address, wakes up the cop and jumps to the start address. when the cop wakes up it reads that varaible and jumps there.. it's basically the same as what happens in our bootloader.. 07:32 -!- tlg [~tlg@124-215.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:33 < EvilDude> 'lo 07:33 < courtc> simple enough, eh? 07:34 < EvilDude> the explanation up there scares me lol 07:36 < courtc> basically when linux starts there is some code that puts the COP into a simple loop and enables it for processing FIQ interrupts. The audio driver then creates pseudo-dma requests (they generate FIQ ints). 07:39 < courtc> thats what I hear anywho.. I try to stick to the software side of programming.. 07:40 < EvilDude> lol yeah 07:40 < EvilDude> much easier :) 07:40 < EvilDude> wow this is scary 07:40 < EvilDude> linux booted DAMN fast just then 07:40 < courtc> yea, its MUCH faster 07:41 < EvilDude> hmm still spent about 4 seconds to buffer a mp3 07:41 < courtc> yea, but thats quite a bit shorter than before.. 07:41 < EvilDude> yeah it is 07:42 < EvilDude> was hoping under 1 second 07:42 < EvilDude> or do you need special like way to load the file to make it optimized 07:42 < EvilDude> Ok this is much better loaded a smaller mp3 pretty fast although the playing still stuffs up randomly :( 07:43 < courtc> we could probably create a better buffering system, but it would interfere with playback.. 07:44 < EvilDude> I want to try to make podzilla play music in the background somehow 07:44 < EvilDude> but it wont work will it :( 07:45 < courtc> i had it rigged up.. but there were some interesting issues.. 07:45 < EvilDude> yeah ? 07:46 < courtc> in order to make it work properly i think podzilla's window management needs a rework.. 07:46 < EvilDude> hmm how so i have a bit of time these hols and want to make linux useful :P 07:47 < EvilDude> and the best thing to start is making it play music while doing other stuff lol 07:49 < courtc> well, podzilla sends events to the last window open, for "minimize" support it needs to be changed so it sends events to the active window.. 07:50 < EvilDude> ohh thats annoying 07:50 < EvilDude> what about just playing in the background 07:50 < EvilDude> controlling from now playing screen only 07:50 < EvilDude> (and also does the mp3 player atm free things? I cant load new songs malloc keeps failing!) 07:51 < courtc> there are probably some issues with allocating memory right now.. 07:52 < EvilDude> oo reminds me when you put iPod in power thing in linux, does it charge? 07:52 < courtc> it should.. power is going in.. its gotta go somewhere 07:53 < EvilDude> haha cool well thats good to know 07:53 < EvilDude> hmm this isnt tooo bad atm 07:53 < EvilDude> some music plays alright 07:54 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:54 < EvilDude> hey 07:55 < courtc> to play in the background i think our best choice is mpd.. and then the "now playing" screen could just be a client 07:57 < EvilDude> hmm ok how's mpd going? 07:59 < courtc> ask normalperson.. apparently he got a few flacs to play all the way through without skips last night/yesterday... his biggest problem was disk speed, so now thats better: "The Possibilties are Endless" 08:00 < EvilDude> woooooooooo 08:00 < EvilDude> wooot* lol 08:00 < EvilDude> but flacs aren't that hard to play now are they in comparison to mp3 and aac :p 08:02 < courtc> can't really say.. dunno how in-depth flac decoding is.. 08:03 < EvilDude> I thought flac was a non lossy codec, so I think it'd be easier to decode then mp3 08:04 < courtc> i think you might be thinking about encoding... lossless doesnt mean it cant be super compressed.. 08:05 < EvilDude> true.. 08:05 < EvilDude> hmm does the current iTunesDB parser parse / allow for OTG playlist creation and stuff 08:06 < courtc> I dont think so 08:09 < EvilDude> also how' 08:09 < EvilDude> how's the menu thuing going that you were doing :P? 08:10 < normalperson> courtc: yeah, I got a FLAC to play at 90% speed without special buffering at all 08:10 < normalperson> too tired tonight to do much coding 08:12 < courtc> well now that dynamic loading and event managment are non-existant/dependant on PTK, i dont really have a _good_ reason to do a dynamic menu.. 08:13 < courtc> thats awesome normalperson.. 08:13 < EvilDude> courtc: well that's pretty annoying ;( maybe you should just work on the PTK code.. 08:14 < EvilDude> and normalperson, thats really good! 08:14 < EvilDude> is flac more cpu consuming than mp3? 08:16 < normalperson> thanks :) 08:16 < normalperson> EvilDude: no, but FLAC files are significantly bigger 08:17 < courtc> EvilDude, I really dont have the time for figuring out PTK now... soon, but not yet.. 08:17 < normalperson> if I didn't try to play FLAC, nobody would've noticed the ~7M malloc() limit, and nearly all my FLAC files are >7M 08:18 < courtc> hmm... i didnt try to play one of my audio books... 08:19 < normalperson> heck, I've had music MP3s that are over 30M 08:19 < courtc> that would have killed my ipod i think.. 08:19 < EvilDude> lol yeah i have a 300mb file of a dvd rip 08:19 < EvilDude> but thats aac as well 08:19 < EvilDude> so lots of pain for my iPod :P 08:19 < normalperson> but then again, it's the Smashing Pumpkins, and they love epic jams at concerts :D 08:19 < EvilDude> haha 08:20 < courtc> and then there is 17 08:20 < normalperson> :) 08:20 < normalperson> I never had trouble playing 17 in FLAC on my ipod 08:21 < EvilDude> hmm has the >7mb malloc bug been fixed btw? 08:21 < EvilDude> coz that would explain why half my songs wouldn't load and give me the error 08:21 < normalperson> yeah, but there's a hard limit of 16M, I think... 08:21 < courtc> uh, i think its been bumped up to 16M 08:22 < normalperson> I can't seem to malloc >16M or so even if I break them up, now 08:22 < courtc> that sucks.. 08:22 < normalperson> I think 32M would work, but that would leave me no memory for anything 08:23 < courtc> bah, who needs memory ;) 08:23 < normalperson> I could give some of the extra memory to Alzheimer's patients 08:23 < EvilDude> lol 08:24 < EvilDude> hmm my file i tried to open was 12.5mb 08:24 < EvilDude> wouldnt open 08:25 < EvilDude> but it may coz the songs didn't get freed after play so not enough space 08:46 < EvilDude> hmm how do you use diffs to merge a diff to the original? 08:57 < normalperson> EvilDude: patch 08:57 < courtc> cat bla.diff | patch -Np1 08:58 < normalperson> patch has an -i option, or < for the ultimate in laziness 08:58 < normalperson> actually, same number of keystrokes 08:59 < EvilDude> thanks 08:59 < normalperson> -N scares me, but maybe that's just me 09:01 < courtc> _not_ using -N scares me 09:02 < normalperson> hmm.. I usually test it with --dry-run first 09:03 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:06 < courtc> bah, im not that careful.. i just like to keep 12 backups ;) 09:06 < EvilDude> lol 09:14 < EvilDude> hmm seems the .diff file was bad so I have to be a manual diff thing :p 09:15 < courtc> it might use -p0 instead 09:17 < EvilDude> ah well at least by going through file myself i know what the patch does 10:00 -!- Thijs [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 10:01 < Thijs> goodmorning ! 10:13 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-217-3-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:16 -!- evergreen [~Miranda@p213.54.143.173.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #iPodLinux 10:17 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-33-115.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:20 < StiNKy> what kind of ide port do the ipod hard drives use? anyone know? 10:22 < evergreen> what prevents from having "official" 4G support? is one able to try (for hacking the kernel) without breaking the ipod? 10:25 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:27 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 10:27 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 10:34 < courtc> evergreen, the 4g has a different processor than the 1g, 2g and 3g so ipodlinux is unable to boot on them at this time.. it is indeed possible to try hacking at the kernel to make it work, but not much is going to happen until someone does some serious reverse engineering.. 10:38 < evergreen> mmh, have to think about that, at least now I know why its stuck. many thx 10:46 < EvilDude> hmm i think i have a problem why does a podzilla i compile have the colours inverted =\ 10:48 < Thijs> hm.. is it really the kernel whats the problem, or is just the problem that the firmware has to be encrypted first before flashing in the ipod 10:52 -!- evergreen [~Miranda@p213.54.143.173.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:01 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB36C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 11:01 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 11:03 < EvilDude> hey bern 11:03 < leachbj> hi there 11:03 < Thijs> hi bernard 11:03 < EvilDude> The disk speed is awesome! :D 11:03 < courtc> EvilDude, you need you update your microwindows sources, or podzilla sources. one 11:04 < EvilDude> hmm I think I'll try to make clean build it was building from old ones i think 11:04 < courtc> Thijs, ask leachbj :D 11:04 < Thijs> yes 11:04 < Thijs> i was suppose to do 11:04 < Thijs> leachbj: has macpod told u something last night ? 11:05 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:05 < leachbj> nope, I was out all last night 11:05 < Thijs> ah oke 11:05 < Thijs> i have found something that might be interesting 11:05 < Thijs> do u know about the Ice>Link Plus ? 11:05 < leachbj> yeah, I saw your photos earlier... interesting stuff! 11:06 < Thijs> http://www.thijsje.nl/ipod/ 11:06 < Thijs> i made them yesterday 11:06 < leachbj> yup, I saw them this morning ;) 11:06 < Thijs> ah ok 11:06 < Thijs> this device can talk to the ipod and change pictures :) 11:07 < courtc> leachbj is crafty.. hes aways watching 11:07 < leachbj> ;) 11:07 < Thijs> hehe 11:07 < leachbj> its just to make sure courtc is doing enough work! 11:08 < leachbj> Thijs: I guess there are still parts of the APP we haven't discovered; http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Apple_Accessory_Protocol 11:08 < Thijs> yes i guess to 11:08 < Thijs> the data is sent in the ID3 tag of an MP3 11:09 < Thijs> but then the icelink sends and image back 11:09 < leachbj> wasn't that just the firmware update for the device? since its attached to the audio out I would guess it gets its firmware update that way... 11:10 < Thijs> i dont think so 11:10 < leachbj> but its connected to the ipod using the serial lines on the dock connector and using that to control the ipod... (my best guess anyhow) 11:10 < Thijs> its connected with an 8 pin DIN 11:10 < Thijs> functions are charge ipod, get audio, get serial data 11:10 < Thijs> so 11:11 < Thijs> 2 lines for power( vdd,gnd), 3 lines for audio ( left,right,gnd), and 3 lines serial ( rxd,txd,gnd) 11:11 < Thijs> i guess 11:12 < leachbj> sure, the black thing in picture 4 sits between your audio system and the ipod right? and is attached to the ipod via the dock connector? 11:12 < Thijs> yes 11:12 < Thijs> correct 11:13 < leachbj> sure, so its just connected to the ipods serial lines, power lines and audio lines.... 11:13 < Thijs> too bad its sealed in black coating 11:13 < leachbj> the serial lines are used to control the iPod, do those menus etc... and its firmware updates are mp3's so they come across the audio lines 11:13 < Thijs> sometimes i just want to get a knife and cut off the coating to inspect the device 11:14 < Thijs> leachbj: dont think so 11:14 < leachbj> haha... for RE it would be interesting to just listen in on the serial lines. 11:14 < Thijs> if u look closer in the mp3, you see an header with data, and the rest is afaik dummy data to make the mp3 longer 11:14 < Thijs> texts as LAME2.93 11:15 < leachbj> lame aint a mp3 encoder... 11:15 < Thijs> leachbj: i was also thinking to buy an serial cable 11:15 < Thijs> bu i guess i can make it my own 11:16 < leachbj> how much did it cost? 11:16 < Thijs> iam doing an electronical study 11:16 < Thijs> it cost 40 euro for a dock cable to 8 pin din 11:17 < leachbj> and for the ice-link? 11:17 < Thijs> http://www.dension4u.de/shop/images/3g-mini-cable190-c.jpg 11:18 < Thijs> icelink costs 150 euro including a cable or cradle 11:18 < Thijs> ( they sell icelinks where i work ) 11:18 < leachbj> the guy that did the original RE work on APP had the previous ice link version I think. 11:19 < Thijs> yes good possible 11:19 < Thijs> this one is sold since 15 december 11:21 < Thijs> i think the original icelink is not more than a 12C509 with an unilink controller 11:21 < Thijs> (+ tiny amplifier ) 11:23 < Thijs> but to make a serial cable, can i just use an DS275 with an 3.3V CMOS AND port ? 11:23 < Thijs> or is a MAX323 required 11:24 < leachbj> if you want to connect it to a standard RS232 port you need to convert the line levels... the ipod is using 3.3v 11:24 < leachbj> (ttl levels) 11:25 < Thijs> yes. DS275 is like an MAX232 ( RS232 to TTL ) without the need of using capacitors 11:25 < Thijs> but it does output 5v 11:25 < Thijs> and ipod requires 3.3v 11:26 < courtc> leachbj: apparently EvilDude is problems with the new kernel and mallocing for the mp3player.. 11:26 < leachbj> cool... well the 232 is also 5v... but it seems to work ok. 11:26 < leachbj> courtc: yeah the malloc is a bit different now... 11:27 < leachbj> courtc: did you happen to try the other kernel config suggestion I posted about... with CONTIG=Y and LARGE=N? 11:27 < Thijs> yes..they are very small: http://www.thijsje.nl/pics/pics.jpg ( leftbottom case includes MAX232, Lefmiddle case includes DS275's ) 11:27 < courtc> no, want me to check it out? 11:27 < leachbj> if you would that would be great... (my guess is that its the same with =Y and =Y) 11:28 < Thijs> 8PDIP 11:29 < Thijs> and have another question.. there is serial access at bottom of my ipod mini, but also at top.. are the ports different, or are they the same port 11:30 < leachbj> they are the same serial device on the ipod if that what you mean... 11:30 < Thijs> yes :) 11:31 < Thijs> then iam going to make the device, but i better also use an 5v - 3.3 v converter ) 11:32 < leachbj> to be honest we dont really know about the 5/3v thing... just that the ipod supplies 3.3v, its serial lines I think can safely handle 5v otherwise the guys that used the max232 would have had problems by now. 11:32 < Thijs> yes... but u maybe tested on 3g models, maybe is mini more sensitive 11:33 < leachbj> possibly but that seems unlikely... actually the other way to check would be to supply power to the remote and see what levels come out of it... it might be that they originally saw 3v from there... 11:34 < leachbj> in any case if you can do 3v easily enough its better to be safe than sorry! 11:34 < Thijs> yes correct 11:35 < Thijs> or just place 2 1N4148 diodes before the RXD line of the ipod.. they consume 0.7 volt each 11:35 < Thijs> 5-1.4 = 3.6 v :) 11:37 < leachbj> that DS275 has some interesting comments about full duplex... 11:38 < Thijs> if u want to test, u can easilly sample some from dallas like i did 11:38 < Thijs> but be sure to add comments: PDIP only ! 11:38 < Thijs> else u get ultra tiny smd ones 11:39 < leachbj> ha 11:39 < Thijs> like this 11:39 < Thijs> http://www.thijsje.nl/pics/kleinsmd.jpg 11:40 < Thijs> no.. thats not a 10 cm big pencil 11:40 < leachbj> hahah... nice! that would be cool to build an "in-dock-connector" cable... 11:41 < Thijs> to small 11:41 < Thijs> not only smd, but also ubertiny 11:42 < leachbj> hey are you good at identifying chips? I have some photos of the ipod boards to try and work out what some of the chips are... I can get the easy ones but some are a bit of a mystery. 11:42 < Thijs> sure 11:43 < Thijs> i can give it a try 11:47 < Thijs> u do have an URL or something? 11:47 < courtc> /dev/hda: 11:47 < courtc> Timing buffer-cache reads: 4 MB in 3.85 seconds = 1.04 MB/sec 11:47 < courtc> Timing buffered disk reads: 2 MB in 3.77 seconds = 543.24 kB/sec 11:47 < courtc> boo.. 11:48 < courtc> err. wait.. 11:50 < Thijs> :) 11:50 < Thijs> me 2 11:50 < leachbj> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/ipod_photo_chips.tgz 11:50 < Thijs> dling 11:50 < leachbj> courtc: thats pretty much what I was expecting... its the contiguous alloc that is slow... 11:51 < EvilDude> hey guys the problem with malloc is definately with the free. 11:51 < EvilDude> I can play 2 or 3 large files and then it wont let me load another 11:53 < Thijs> leachbj: what chips do you want to identify you dont know yet 11:53 < Thijs> all on them ? 11:56 < Thijs> big philips one is PMU (also noted on ipodlinux.org ) 11:57 < leachbj> evildude... I found yesterday that some of my mp3's wouldnt play (malloc error) but then others would... I was just trying to do a randomish selection 11:57 < leachbj> Thijs: anything that is missing from http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Generations 11:58 < Thijs> thats a photo of an mini/4g/photo ? 11:58 < EvilDude> leachbj: are you sure that its just some files that won't work? I had a problem playing some files earlier, rebooted, and if I choose them first they play fine, leading me to believe it's a free bug 11:58 < leachbj> its a photo... so some of the chips are for video/tv signals... 11:59 < leachbj> EvilDude: to be honest I havent tested it that hard ;)... I was just randomly choosing some files to see how fast they were loading and saw some errors... I didnt even check on the actual files to see how big they were 12:00 < leachbj> Thijs: I'm also looking for data sheets for relevant chips... (i'd really love one for the PSU but can't find it anywhere... and phillips won't answer me..) 12:01 < EvilDude> EvilDude: haha well i guess i found another bug for you then ;) and also any reason why the itunesdb legnth is so inaccruate =\ 12:01 < leachbj> which length? 12:02 < EvilDude> the track length given from iTunesDB 12:02 < leachbj> how do you mean inaccurate? 12:02 < EvilDude> well i think that is accurate but for some reason the time remaining is very off 12:02 < EvilDude> like says 40 seconds remaining at start of song and then goes onto -24 hours or something etc 12:02 < courtc> mine is always 46 sec 12:02 < Thijs> lol that chip with the blue dot is a pain in the ass to read 12:02 < EvilDude> thats the one! 12:03 < leachbj> hmm... your not using the precompiled podzilla beta are you? 12:04 < EvilDude> Compiling my own 12:04 < courtc> yea, libitunes was updated :/ 12:04 < EvilDude> ohh 12:04 < EvilDude> that could be a little problem.. 12:05 < leachbj> just for reference, if you report problems can you mention if you are using a prebuilt version... makes it easier for me to work out why I dont see the problems ;) 12:06 < EvilDude> lol sure 12:06 < EvilDude> hmm well thats strange i think with a prebuilt podzilla i had no inversion yet latest podzilla inverts colors does this mean recompile microwindows too? 12:06 < leachbj> yeah you need to update microwindows from cvs and recompile 12:07 < courtc> yea.. like i said earilier :O 12:07 < Thijs> leachbj: that chip with the blue dot has on the second line something as 70- 12:07 < Thijs> that could be a memory chip with 70ns timing 12:07 < Thijs> near the big memory module 12:08 < EvilDude> courtc: oh yeah lol i thought you meant only 1 had to be recompiled so i recompiled podzilla =P 12:08 < leachbj> Thijs: yeah its a little blury & dark. I'm also cnofused about that T1211 and ADV7179 thing, they seem to do quite similar things... 12:08 < leachbj> Thijs: could it be flash then? 12:09 < Thijs> its more like a SRAM or DRAM module.. so not permanent 12:09 < Thijs> like a buffer for the sdram module ? 12:10 < leachbj> does seem to be connected directly to the sdram... 12:12 < Thijs> iam going to try to read each letter and do some matches on google 12:12 < leachbj> EvilDude: here is the patch you need 12:12 < leachbj> --- itunesdb.h 23 Oct 2004 00:44:22 -0000 1.1 12:12 < leachbj> +++ itunesdb.h 6 Nov 2004 18:25:28 -0000 1.2 12:12 < leachbj> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ 12:12 < leachbj> time_t lastmod; 12:12 < leachbj> time_t lastplayed; 12:12 < leachbj> unsigned short int rating; 12:12 < leachbj> - unsigned short int length; 12:12 < leachbj> + unsigned int length; 12:12 < leachbj> unsigned short int year; 12:12 < leachbj> unsigned short int trackno; 12:12 < leachbj> unsigned short int notracks; 12:13 < Thijs> leachbj: seems to be like XXVT800A 12:13 < Thijs> 8mbit ? 12:13 < leachbj> that is the flash size... 12:13 < courtc> wow.. what a change ;) 12:14 < Thijs> http://www.sst.com/products.xhtml/parallel_flash/39/x16/SST39VF800A 12:14 < leachbj> some of the best patches are one lines ;) like yesterdays mem thing! 12:14 < Thijs> thats our one i guess 12:14 < Thijs> only other package 12:17 < leachbj> hmm... the ipod mini seems to be using that chip so it looks like a pretty good guess! 12:17 < Thijs> yes 12:17 < Thijs> and its flash 12:18 < leachbj> do you want to update the wiki? 12:18 < Thijs> photo doesnt have edit button 12:19 < leachbj> you need to create an account & log in. 12:20 < courtc> WIKI: Building Podzilla: "CC=arm-elf-gcc LDFLAGS=-elf2flt ./configure" -> "CC=arm-elf-gcc LDFLAGS=-elf2flt ./configure --host=arm-elf" ? 12:21 < courtc> right? 12:21 < leachbj> or even "./configure CC=arm-elf-gcc LDFLAGS=-elf2flt --host=arm-elf" 12:24 < courtc> naw, thats just confusing ;) 12:25 < Thijs> updated wiki 12:25 < leachbj> I think its more reliable though... it works with autoreconf.sh type scripts as well 12:26 < courtc> huh, didnt know that.. i'll change it 12:36 < Thijs> sorry ppl.. got to go 12:36 < Thijs> speak to ya l8er 12:36 < leachbj> np... cya 12:37 < Thijs> will continue research soon 12:37 < courtc> thanks Thijs.. 12:39 < courtc> ooh, these mp3 graphic updates are quite nice.. i suggest a commit ... 12:39 < leachbj> I meant to take a look see... 12:39 < leachbj> if i understood though the time has been replaced by a bar? 12:40 < courtc> yup.. 12:41 < courtc> and visual volume changing also 12:41 < EvilDude> hmm finally here 12:41 < EvilDude> this is what made me realise how badly outta sync the time thing is :p 12:41 < leachbj> visual volume seems a must ;) but the timer count seems that a numerical display would still be nice... 12:42 < courtc> well, both is possible 12:42 < EvilDude> I think both is needed 12:43 < EvilDude> getting the mp3 interface closer and closer to useable :) 12:44 -!- Thijs is now known as Thijs_away 12:45 < EvilDude> is the libitunesdb 0.5 the one being used? 12:45 < leachbj> the pre-built one uses the cvs version 12:45 < leachbj> b/c 0.5* doesn't have that last patch 12:46 < EvilDude> yeah 12:46 < EvilDude> i'll get it off cvs now then 12:46 < courtc> hmm, is it also a possibilty to peek on an event check for duplicate events? wow, let me know if you understand what im asking 12:47 * leachbj gets out divining rod 12:47 < leachbj> what is duplicate event? 12:48 < leachbj> what is duplicate event? 12:48 < courtc> hah 12:49 < EvilDude> I cant find libitunesdb patch! :( lol 12:49 < courtc> so the volume adjustment works properly.. now the events are getting queued for quite a while if you try and adjust the volume fast 12:49 < leachbj> EvilDude: if you just do an anon cvs checkout you'll get a good version 12:50 < EvilDude> that reminds me, maybe the wheel should be implemented so when you move fast, it somehow gives a value to how fast you mvoe it and like make it higher, and also make it somehow accelerate etc 12:50 < EvilDude> I cant find it on cvs anywhere though =S 12:50 < courtc> acceleration sucks :p 12:50 < leachbj> its not hosted on ipodlinux.sf.net but libitunesdb.sf.net 12:50 -!- tlg [~tlg@124-215.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 12:51 < leachbj> courtc, ah that makes sense... you can peekevent or something, and then just see if its the same as the current one...? 12:52 < EvilDude> leachbj: OH no wonder! lol 12:52 < courtc> oh good im not rambling.. someone understands me 12:53 < leachbj> no you're ramblining, I just have a good divining rod handy ;) 12:53 < courtc> :D 12:53 < EvilDude> (0.5.1 latest?) 12:54 < leachbj> no, cvs HEAD is latest... 0.5.1 does not include that last fix I posted. 12:54 < leachbj> only cvs does 12:55 < EvilDude> ok 12:55 < EvilDude> modifying wiki so that other innocent (a nice word for stupid :D) people like me dont get confused :p 12:57 < leachbj> yeah I really should see if we can get another libitunesdb done for that.. 12:58 < EvilDude> hmm great wiki tells me to use command called automake 12:58 < EvilDude> that doesnt exist in my cygwin =\ 12:58 < courtc> :P 12:58 < leachbj> is it an optional component you can install? 12:59 < EvilDude> i dunno but i bet the start cygwin part didnt say you needed it ;) 12:59 < EvilDude> damn redoing the windows dev env is not easy 13:00 < courtc> i wonder if you could do it all in mingw/msys.. 13:00 < EvilDude> cant we just put up the libitunesdb.a file much easier ! lol 13:00 < leachbj> ah quit your bitchin' and fix your environment ;) 13:01 < courtc> haha 13:01 < EvilDude> lol damn well at least this way i can fix wiki and other people wont have to go through this =P 13:01 < leachbj> good to have a sacraficial lamb... 13:01 -!- Thijs_away [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:02 < EvilDude> hahaha yeah it is good not when you're the lamb though! 13:02 < leachbj> haha... 13:05 < courtc> extensive testing going on here.. :) im listening as hard as i can... :D 13:05 < EvilDude> haha 13:05 * leachbj points divining rod in courtc's direction... 13:05 < EvilDude> ok i give up seriously! i have no idea how to instlal auotmake rofl 13:05 < courtc> ahh.. dont point that thing at me... 13:06 < leachbj> anyone have a babble filter for x-chat? 13:06 < EvilDude> =O 13:06 < courtc> what? did you say something? 13:07 < leachbj> sorry, the sarcasm filter must have kicked in... 13:07 < leachbj> mp3 testing? 13:07 < leachbj> EvilDude: is there no automake option in the cygwin installer? 13:08 < courtc> thats right, mp3 testing, man that thing is _good_ 13:09 < leachbj> the memory config thing? 13:09 < EvilDude> there is, just that I dont know how to just add packages (just yet im learning =D) 13:10 < courtc> so far i've only been unable to play one song... 13:10 < EvilDude> hmm it must be a large song 13:10 < EvilDude> i think theres a certain size it wont play after a while 13:12 < courtc> EvilDude, just go through the installer again.. play with the checkboxes and come out with automake.. thats all you windows people do anyway isnt it? ;) 13:14 < EvilDude> lol yep =D But the problem is it wants to dl like the 100mb again 13:14 < EvilDude> and I'd really rather not 13:15 < courtc> is there a reason the scroll wheel works in "hold mode" ? 13:15 < EvilDude> I think scroll wheel disables the buttons but not the wheel automatically isnt it 13:16 < EvilDude> so it'd be software blocking scroll wheel? 13:16 < leachbj> yeah I think the 3g changed the hardware there... 13:17 < courtc> ok.. so is there something simple to do for the poor 1g users(aka me)? 13:17 < EvilDude> (i gave up on cygwin only installing what i want its now dling like whatever it wants rofl) 13:18 < KuRcZ> hey 13:18 < leachbj> hmmm, the itunes parser just failed again... :( 13:19 < KuRcZ> what you trying to do with it? 13:19 < EvilDude> =S why does it fail 13:19 < courtc> i guess what im asking is if there is a setting/variable/somthing for the hold switch.. 13:20 < leachbj> i think it failed on the artists menu item... first selection after a reboot... 13:20 < leachbj> hmmm that volume/time patch looks quite nice! 13:20 < courtc> maybe malloc is completely borked :/ 13:21 < leachbj> its not that its broken, just that it works quite differently... 13:21 < leachbj> it divides memory up into a number blocks of certain sizes... 13:21 < EvilDude> hmm sounds like ms. the blue screen of death is actually a feature =\ 13:21 < leachbj> in standard linux the max size is 1mb... 13:22 < leachbj> but with standard linux the mmu will just make these blocks look contiguous. 13:23 < EvilDude> wouldn't it be better to somehow make code that uses less than 1mb blocks? 13:24 < KuRcZ> you guys working on the 4g? 13:24 < leachbj> courtc: what do you mean about a setting/variable? do you mean does the kernel generate some thing when the hold switch is changed? 13:25 < courtc> yes, thats what im asking.. 13:26 < courtc> ok, i understand we have to use malloc for smaller chunks.. but how does that affect disk speed in any way, shape, or form? 13:26 < leachbj> well its also the kernel allocator and I can only guess that the ide subystem or perhaps just the io layers use the allocator a lot...? 13:27 -!- javiolo [~javiolo@84.18.28.198] has joined #ipodlinux 13:27 < KuRcZ> how come in ipodlinux, you can't read .txt files, or other text files? 13:27 < KuRcZ> it just pops up with the name of the file and closes 13:29 < courtc> KuRcZ, we are talking about the latest changes in the kernel.. everyone seems obsesed with 4g's ... 13:29 < KuRcZ> ohh, ok, well if you need me to help with anytihng, just ask 13:29 < KuRcZ> and i'll do my best to help out 13:30 < leachbj> basically until I get a 4g its unlikely that anything will happen 13:31 < EvilDude> ok i hate cygwin. i give up for tonight lol cyaz 13:31 < KuRcZ> do the 4g, mini, U2, and photo all have the same hardware? 13:31 < EvilDude> stupid cygwin i tell it to install automake it uninstalls everything else basically =\ 13:31 -!- EvilDude [pvaranas@CPE-144-133-102-128.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby"] 13:32 < courtc> did we skip over the hold switch question? 13:33 < courtc> its fine if you dont know, i can take that for an anwser 13:33 < leachbj> the hold switch should generate ^S and ^Q events 13:34 < KuRcZ> whats ^S and ^Q? 13:34 < leachbj> but since we don't really use the console that maybe is a little strange... 13:34 < leachbj> (and infact it didnt really work on the console anyhow)... 13:34 < courtc> oh.. alright.. 13:35 < leachbj> you can change it in arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/keyboard.c 13:35 < courtc> ipodlinux.org is down? 13:35 < leachbj> waiting... 13:36 < leachbj> looks like it. 13:38 < leachbj> courtc: I think it makes sense to change it to 'h' or something... 13:39 < courtc> ok 13:45 < courtc> you want to change it to one key? and would it be better to do the whole hold thing in keyboard.c ? 13:46 < leachbj> you mean disable other keys? 13:47 < courtc> yea.. 13:48 < leachbj> actually, on the 3g it does... 13:48 < leachbj> but its pretty easy enough to implement 13:55 < courtc> i'm trying to figure it out.. do you know off the top of your head what sends an 0x40? 13:58 < leachbj> do you mean line 79? 13:58 < courtc> (bleh) sure, im a little disoriented 13:59 < leachbj> on the 3g, when the hold switch is turned on you get some weird stuff directly after... I think thats what that was for. 13:59 < courtc> ok.. 14:00 < leachbj> I think I'll commit that mp3.c change... its a bit messy but it looks quite nice. 14:02 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:04 < courtc> dirty code==clean interface? hmm.. it compiles cleanly, so i'm happy. :) 14:05 < leachbj> iPr0n: http://playboy.com/features/features/ibod/ 14:05 < leachbj> "I hope it comes with a screen protector." hahaha! 14:06 < courtc> were you looking for that, or did it just happen that you found it? :) 14:06 < leachbj> engadget carried the story ;) 14:11 < courtc> -Wall++ patches for steroids 14:12 < courtc> (i get distracted _very_ easily) 14:14 < courtc> version bump? whats the rule? every 5th commit? that seems, umm.. not good 14:15 < leachbj> maybe when a new announcement is made? 14:16 < courtc> so in other words when YOU feel its time.. ;) 14:16 < leachbj> pretty much :) 14:29 < leachbj> i was trying to get ogg working yesterday... still no joy though :( 14:29 < courtc> alright -Wall fixes committed.. 14:30 < courtc> yea, decoding still seems to be a big problem also.. 14:30 < leachbj> yup... i did a lot of the relocating stuff to fast ram but it didnt really make much difference 14:32 < leachbj> i've just checked in thost mp3 changes 14:34 < leachbj> hmmm the website still seems to be dead... wheres veteran when we need him? 14:35 < courtc> i bet Wammy know his phone number :) 14:48 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:48 < leachbj> hmm... scared him off? 15:47 < leachbj> hmm it looks like the hold switch coding for 3g was a little wrong... 15:48 < leachbj> need to go fix the 2g to test... back later. 15:48 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB36C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 15:49 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-158-16-9.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:01 -!- javiolo [~javiolo@84.18.28.198] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 16:03 -!- StiNKy [chembros@c211-28-92-241.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:04 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-217-3-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:17 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:05 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:05 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+v veteran ] by ChanServ 17:09 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB36C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:11 < leachbj> hey veteran whats up with the web server today? 17:11 < veteran> server crashed =/ 17:11 < veteran> third time we've had a problem this month 17:12 < leachbj> its still down right? 17:16 < veteran> yeah waiting for datacenter to respond 17:20 < KuRcZ> yea 17:21 < KuRcZ> everytime i go to it it goes down 17:24 < veteran> what? 0.0 17:25 < veteran> alright it's back up 17:26 < veteran> leachbj - i've been trying to port a guitar tuner 17:26 < veteran> it gives a huge error message when run, is there any way to save it to a file 17:26 < veteran> ./command > file isn't supported is it? 17:29 -!- eddan|zZz [~ingenvet@cm-62.179.165.164.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 17:29 -!- eddan|zZz is now known as eddan 17:35 -!- courtc__ [~court@adsl-158-44-19.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:37 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-158-16-9.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:38 < leachbj> veteran if you get the minix shell you can do that. 17:38 < veteran> courtc sent it to be but it doesn't work 17:38 < veteran> i replaced /sbin/sh with it 17:39 < veteran> and it barely boots up 17:39 -!- eddan [~ingenvet@cm-62.179.165.164.chello.no] has quit ["Ping timeout"] 17:39 < veteran> gives a lot of file not found errors when going through the /etc/rc 17:41 < leachbj> thats a bit strange!... is it the same as this one http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/minix-sh ? 17:41 < leachbj> thats the one from dpalffy - works fine for me. 17:52 < veteran> eh no i used one courtc sent me 17:52 < veteran> i'll try that one 17:57 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:57 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:14 < leachbj> hey veteran did you see this (php vunerabilities) http://www.hardened-php.net/advisories/012004.txt 18:21 -!- dpalffy [~dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has joined #ipodlinux 18:21 < leachbj> hey dpalffy! 18:22 < dpalffy> hi bern! 18:22 < leachbj> hows the new job? 18:23 < dpalffy> sorry, i was really busy with the new job - had no time for ipodlinux... 18:23 < dpalffy> and exam time is starting again... 18:23 < leachbj> hey no probs...! I think the same will happen to me when I start the new job 18:24 < dpalffy> the job is quite interesting... but for now we work on the cd-changer side... 18:25 < dpalffy> the ipod side is already done and works quite well, but we have to support more kinds of head units and changer protocols... 18:29 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:29 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:33 < veteran> leachbj does the piezo work on 3g 18:33 < leachbj> sure, that is the click sound... 18:36 < veteran> oh... can it produce tones? 18:36 < veteran> like the alarm clock 18:37 < leachbj> you can vary the sound it makes - yes... I've actually never listened to the alarm clock ;) 18:38 < leachbj> basically its attached to the serial device and it makes different noises if you write different characters to it or vary the baud rate 18:38 < veteran> ah yeah i remember reading that somewhere 18:38 < veteran> which device? 18:39 < leachbj> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/IPod_Programming ;) 18:39 < veteran> thanks :D 18:39 < veteran> i love the new kernel btw 18:40 < veteran> and the minix you gave seems to work, thanks 18:49 -!- princeofdarkness is now known as danalien 18:56 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:56 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:59 < dpalffy> leachbj: what did you try to speed up tremor? 19:02 < veteran> dpalffy - cd-changer side? you've got me curious, what are you working on? =) 19:03 < veteran> leachbj - thanks for that vuln, downloading patch now 19:03 < dpalffy> ice-link. i got a job at dension about 2 weeks ago 19:04 < veteran> oh wow exciting 19:04 < leachbj> yeah I spent some time yesterday with the current low-mem branch 19:05 < leachbj> I did a bunch of relocations.. the window_*.h tables and the mdct tables and mdct code... but it still wasnt real time. 19:06 < leachbj> man relocating the code was not very fun... i did it by hand so you have to put in jump vectors for calls to functions outside the module... 19:10 < leachbj> hey dpallfy, did you see the ide speedups? 19:14 -!- vet_laptop [~blake@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:24 < leachbj> crap, firewire just went spoink... brb 19:25 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB36C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:26 -!- vet_laptop [~blake@cs662543-207.houston.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:29 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB36C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:29 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:30 < veteran> leachbj telnet is hating me 19:31 < veteran> the ipod is responding to ping but is not accepting telnet 19:31 < veteran> i exited podzilla 19:36 < leachbj> veteran: thats strange... i haven't seen that before. 19:36 < veteran> =/ also i have to reboot my laptop each time i want to rmmod ipodeth1394 19:37 < veteran> leachbj which kernel version did you say you use? 19:38 < leachbj> 2.6.9 19:38 < veteran> weird same here 19:39 < veteran> any certain sequence you use when connecting? 19:39 < veteran> do you boot up pc with ipod on or off 19:40 < leachbj> I haven't used it in a long time b/c it was too flakey on my pc... i have enough firewire problems (hence the reboot before) without the millions of extra from the ethernet module :/ 19:42 < leachbj> but when it worked I would just load the module, ifconfig the device and it would work. 19:42 < leachbj> i never ran podzilla from /etc/rc 19:57 < veteran> ah you have a serial adapter? 20:12 < leachbj> nope... just doing it the hard way 20:14 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:21 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:40 < courtc__> do'h my plan for ruining veterans day got spoiled.. he found a working minix shell :/ mine should be the same as that one..:p 20:40 -!- courtc__ is now known as courtc 20:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 20:44 < courtc> veteran, you have to do a "ifconfig eth1 down" before you rmmod or it'll hardlock 20:46 < courtc> also make sure to set the device's mtu to 170 thats what it is by default on the ipod 20:46 < veteran> courtc__ your minix was several bytes off from the other, i compared 20:47 < veteran> i think my connection might have downloaded it wrong though 20:47 < veteran> been having bad connection problems 20:48 < veteran> courtc ah havent been taking it down before rmmod, that's probably it 20:48 < veteran> do you power up the pc before or after the ipod 20:49 < courtc> .. i just keep my pc running 20:50 < courtc> i have a .sh to connect to my ipod.. it makes my life easier.. 20:50 < courtc> #!/bin/bash 20:50 < courtc> insmod ipodeth1394.ko 20:50 < courtc> ifconfig eth2 192.168.222.1 mtu 170 20:50 < courtc> telnet 192.168.222.2 20:50 < courtc> ifconfig eth2 down 20:50 < courtc> rmmod ipodeth1394 20:51 < courtc> and that goes right in the directory of the module.. 20:53 < courtc> that prevents me from forgetting to 'ifconfig eth2 down'.. 20:58 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:59 < veteran> ah okay 21:00 < veteran> hey would you mind tarring up the new kernel's modules? 21:17 < courtc> hmm, they should be the same.. 21:34 < courtc> but since their only 80K: http://so2.sytes.net/ipod/uClinux-2.4.24-fastlibs.tar.bz2 21:38 < courtc> bye now.. i'll be back on later... maybe 21:38 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-158-44-19.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:45 -!- dpalffy [~dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 21:54 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 -!- Morphey [TurToizE@212.199.229.51.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 22:06 < Morphey> need help fast!! 22:06 < Morphey> plz, some1 can help me? 22:08 -!- Morphey [TurToizE@212.199.229.51.forward.012.net.il] has quit [Client Quit] 22:24 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:24 -!- Thijs [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ipodlinux 22:24 < Thijs> goodevening ppl 22:24 < Thijs> there i am again 22:25 -!- Wammy| [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:25 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:26 < Thijs> hmm silence 22:30 < Thijs> too bad 22:42 < Thijs> ? 22:51 < veteran> boo 22:51 < Thijs> boo 22:51 < Thijs> finally 22:52 < veteran> what's wrong? 22:52 < Thijs> nothing 22:52 < Thijs> but i was in great discussion today, and just went back 22:53 < Thijs> and everyone is sleeping/ taking a shower / walking with the dog 22:58 < Thijs> and again we got silence 22:59 -!- danalien is now known as princeofdarkness 23:00 < Thijs> gonna sleep 23:00 < Thijs> cya 23:00 -!- Thijs [mathijs@cc20809-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:22 -!- nickv111 [nick@70-32-147-213.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:24 -!- nickv111 [nick@70-32-147-213.clspco.adelphia.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:32 -!- IBook4G5 [~poopface@64-40-85-235.clec.madisonriver.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:33 < IBook4G5> anyone get btea software to install on the iPods thru a mac 23:33 < IBook4G5> *beta 23:33 -!- usv [~jpaalija@asuka.tky.hut.fi] has joined #iPodLinux 23:35 < IBook4G5> anyone actually doing anything 23:35 < veteran> you have ipodlinux installed? 23:35 < IBook4G5> yea 23:35 < IBook4G5> mac formated one 23:38 < IBook4G5> anyone alive 23:40 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:40 < usv> I am 23:41 < IBook4G5> u have ipodlinux running 23:41 < usv> yes 23:41 < usv> just installed 23:41 < IBook4G5> mac or pc 23:41 < IBook4G5> formated 23:41 < usv> pc 23:41 < usv> fat 23:41 < IBook4G5> go figure, no one uses macs 23:42 < IBook4G5> what kernel u using 23:42 < usv> let me see 23:43 < usv> 2.4.24-ipod2 i think 23:43 < usv> but I can't get the mp3's to play :( 23:44 < IBook4G5> try using the file browser 23:44 < IBook4G5> and it will distort if they are over 128 bit 23:46 < usv> it seems to me that the file browser operates in /dev/hda3 of the ipod 23:47 < IBook4G5> it goes to the main level of the harddrive 23:47 < IBook4G5> you see when you sink it to ur compie 23:47 < usv> ok 23:48 < IBook4G5> well atleast mine does 23:48 < usv> this is what i get: http://asuka.tky.hut.fi/pub/temp/pics/ipodlinux2.jpg 23:48 < veteran> in the file browser, /hp/ is where /dev/hda2 is mounted 23:48 < IBook4G5> what iPod u have 23:48 < IBook4G5> generation 23:48 < usv> 3rd 23:49 < IBook4G5> what size 23:49 < usv> 40 GB 23:50 -!- Wammy [~memememe@ip68-6-141-203.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:50 < IBook4G5> thats wierd 23:50 < IBook4G5> ive got a 15 gigger and im fine 23:50 < usv> ok, now i found the files on /mnt/somewhere 23:51 < IBook4G5> y dont u dock ur ipod and just try putting a test file directally on the main level of the harddisk 23:52 < usv> the sbp2-module i use is fucked up, I have to reboot the computer between ipod connects 23:52 < IBook4G5> lol 23:53 < veteran> usv - does it lock up your computer 23:53 < veteran> it might just be putting it in /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sde etc etc etc 23:54 < usv> veteran: not actually, it just locks up the shell 23:54 < usv> when i disconnect the ipod i run rmmod sbp2 to get the "safe to disconnect" message 23:54 < usv> the shell usually hangs there 23:55 -!- dollar [hashbot@pwns.co.uk] has joined #ipodlinux 23:56 < IBook4G5> u ppl using linux on ur Pcs or something 23:57 < usv> and sometimes even after fresh reboot and modprobe ieee1394; modprobe sbp2; connecting ipod doesn't give the "Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50" blah blah stuff in dmesg 23:57 < usv> linux 23:57 < IBook4G5> osx here 23:59 < IBook4G5> im fed up with linux 23:59 < usv> me too, in a way --- Log closed Sat Dec 18 00:00:00 2004