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00:21 < veteran> macPod you here?
00:24 < macPod> yea
00:24 < macPod> sup?
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03:30 < ncjay29m> anyone alive? anyone know what happened to the windows installer?
03:31 < macPod> nope
03:31 < macPod> did the site die?
03:32 < ncjay29m> it takes you basically a blank page
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03:32 < ncjay29m> http://ipodlinuxinst.sourceforge.net/
03:33 < macPod> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinuxinst
03:34 < ncjay29m> ahh that looks much better
03:34 < macPod> the windows installer people have not set up any html docs
03:36 < ncjay29m> so is it possible to install this on an ipod through XP?
03:43 < jedix_> umm
03:43 < jedix_> I'm looking for the schematic
03:43 < jedix_> for the cord to goto the serial port..
03:43 < jedix_> I lost the link
03:44 < macPod> check the wiki
03:44 < macPod> under documentation
03:47 < macPod> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/Serial_Port
03:49 < ncjay29m> hmm it says it cant find my IPOD and that I need to connect it..
03:49 < macPod> is it connected?
03:50 < ncjay29m> yeah.. ive connected/disconnected/reconnected several times
03:50 < macPod> are you in linux?
03:50 < macPod> have you installed it yet I should say rather
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03:50 < ncjay29m> no first time installing linux on it
03:51 < macPod> did you read all the readme docs?
03:52 < ncjay29m> yeah.. reading through the forums now
03:52 < macPod> it is possible to install it under xp with the installer
03:53 < macPod> however I do not know too much other than the basics because I do not use windows
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03:59 < jaync29m> great..  my pc rebooted
03:59 < macPod> does it work now
04:00 < macPod> I was going to suggest you try rebooting anyhow, it was an omen in disguise :0
04:00 < jaync29m> well windows does have that "self" rebooting function built in.. usually when its not needed
04:02 < jaync29m> or not wanted
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04:04 < jaync29m> hmm still says IPOD isnt connected.. the IPOD is at the "OK to Disconnect" screen
04:06 < jaync29m> ahh hang on.. i might have something
04:07 < jaync29m> looks like it installed.. now its booting
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04:08 < jaync29m> sweet.. it worked
04:23 < jaync29m> now I gotta figure out what to do with it
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05:01 < jaync29m> thanks for the help. night all
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--- Log opened Sun Dec 12 07:54:49 2004
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09:02 < [VD]Haymo> yo
09:02 < [VD]Haymo> ok
09:03 < [VD]Haymo> like yo make podzilla better yo
09:03 < [VD]Haymo> and like add more gamez~ and better music support and codecs like for m4a files etc~
09:03 < [VD]Haymo> :D:D
09:03 < [VD]Haymo> i love ipod linux! ~ :D
09:03 < macPod> you dude, we are totally on that
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> really?
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> lol
09:04 < macPod> we already got this rockin game called asteroids
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> i havtn seen a change on the site for like 2 years lol
09:04 < macPod> we gonna hook it all up
09:04 < macPod> ogg vorbis, acc
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> yeah
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> yeah sweet
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> what about
09:04 < [VD]Haymo> using menu + playign games while playing music
09:05 < macPod> oh we got that coming, no playing there
09:05 < [VD]Haymo> ?
09:05 < macPod> but we need funds son
09:05 < [VD]Haymo> ah ok lol
09:06 < [VD]Haymo> do you gusy work hard onit?
09:07 < macPod> we all trying to get the iPod 4g to start representing linux but it is a biatch
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> i got 3g 10gb :(
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> ollllld school pod
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> :)
09:07 < macPod> no probs there, we already support that shiat
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> is it hard code?
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> yeah i know
09:07 < macPod> no
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> so if i get some of my mates
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> to code for like a week
09:07 < [VD]Haymo> on this
09:08 < [VD]Haymo> will it be sweet?
09:08 < macPod> depends what they do
09:08 < macPod> you can get the hookups with all the sources over on ipodlinux.sourceforge.net
09:08 < [VD]Haymo> like hl2 code, visual basic etc
09:08 < [VD]Haymo> c++
09:08 < macPod> but you gotta know what you are doing, it's tough work
09:08 < macPod> arm assembly and c code
09:09 < [VD]Haymo> http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Sponsors
09:09 < [VD]Haymo> do they acually sponsoir you guys? or are they just your companies?
09:10 < macPod> no way man, they totally gave us the goods and we are grateful fo that
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09:10 < [VD]Haymo> ah ok
09:10 < [VD]Haymo> :)
09:11 < [VD]Haymo> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=644
09:11 < [VD]Haymo> tru dat!"
09:11 < [VD]Haymo> how logn do you think?
09:12 < macPod> they coming out with new releases all the time
09:12 < [VD]Haymo> how long do you think?>
09:12 < [VD]Haymo> whats a kernal (LOL)??
09:12 < [VD]Haymo> yes i am nub
09:12 < macPod> check here http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta
09:12 < macPod> dunno when the next release will come out, again, it is determined by the ice
09:13 < [VD]Haymo> http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=590
09:13 < macPod> well I'm out for the night, gnight
09:13 < [VD]Haymo> do you think flash is possible and easy to combine with linux on the ipod?
09:13 < macPod> no way
09:13 < [VD]Haymo> macpod who are you :/
09:13 < macPod> would be hard
09:13 < macPod> I am macpod
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> but is it possible?
09:14 < macPod> no, flash is not open source
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> is podzilla 2_6. newer than podzilla?
09:14 < macPod> no
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> k
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> do you code or anythign for linux ipod ?
09:14 < macPod> and I'm going to bed, gnight
09:14 < macPod> yes,
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> night
09:14 < [VD]Haymo> k
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11:33 < [NaRuTaRd]> here comes t3h standard-question³: Any news on when this will work on iPod mini¿ Will it ever work there within this project¿
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16:50 < jedix> anyone around?
16:50 < jedix> I was looking on info on using the serial connection.. I have remade my cable now
16:53 < jedix> (for a 4g)
16:53 < jedix> I remember someone saying that he had gotten the commands to work by inserting a pause and sending the command more than once..
17:18 < loofus> jedix: Are you able to get any code to boot from the bootloader on the 4g?
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17:50 < piratePenguin> damnit! I'm getting those damn dmesg errors again :@
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18:16 < piratePenguin> uhh... the cvs command to get the podzilla code on http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Building_podzilla_in_Linux doesnt work.. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ipodlinux co -d ~/ipodlinux/podzilla tools/podzilla ??
18:20 < jedix> loofus, I've not tried
18:20 < jedix> loofus, I was speaking of getting some commands to work via comport
18:20 < loofus> jedix: What type of commands?
18:21 < jedix> next song etc
18:21 < loofus> Over the mac firmware?
18:22 < jedix> currently I've been having problems to get my ipod to even work under linux after the first time I mount/unmount for some reason
18:22 < jedix> yeah
18:22 < jedix> over the mac firmware
18:23 < loofus> Ahh alright I understand what your trying to do now
18:23 < loofus> Sorry I was in the wrong mindset
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18:42 < piratePenguin> is the Music > Songs etc menus supposed to work or is my iTunesDB messed up?
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21:35 < piratePenguin> holy crap, (me) trying to code menu.c in podzilla is a bitch...
21:37 < piratePenguin> I got deep into the Alarm menu and my 'Sound' option is a OPTION_MENU and I just *cant* get it to work
21:39 < piratePenguin> I hate podzilla =p
21:49 < macpod> we really need a library of drawing functions
21:49 < macpod> or a new windows manager
21:49 < macpod> ptk was a good idea
21:50 < piratePenguin> you really needa tidy podzilla up... its a complete disaster
21:50 < macpod> well hey, I didnt make it
21:50 < macpod> if I did it would be much better ;P
21:50 < piratePenguin> lol
21:50 < macpod> and I am considering making a windows manger if I ever have time
21:51 < macpod> or even a ptk
21:51 < macpod> so we dont have to mess with microwindows dirctly
21:51 < piratePenguin> macpod: well... If everything was split outta podzilla it should be ok...
21:51 < macpod> that woludl brobably be yhe best idea
21:51 < macpod> no
21:51 < macpod> it is still a pain to program oon
21:51 < macpod> it would be much beter if there was an api
21:51 < piratePenguin> yea
21:55 < piratePenguin> having one binary for podzilla is useless..
21:56 < piratePenguin> courtc told me he seperated the games/apps etc out from podzilla already (on his ipod)
22:38 < loofus> I believe its her.
22:38 < piratePenguin> whos her?
22:38 < loofus> courtc
22:39 < piratePenguin> :|
22:40 < piratePenguin> never knew that
22:40 < piratePenguin> good thing *shes* not here
22:47 < macpod> piratePenguin what did you change in the wiki?
22:49 < macpod> n/m
22:50 < macpod> courtc name is Courtney Cavin
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23:01 < veteran> happy 22nd, everyone!
23:01 < veteran> 22nd thousand, that is http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=73079
23:01 < macpod> woo
23:02 < macpod> holy shit
23:02 < macpod> did we get slash dotted?
23:04 < macpod> hmm nope
23:04 < macpod> just seems like it was a busy day
23:04 < macpod> cause the ranking did not change at all
23:04 < macpod> jsut the hits
23:04 < veteran> crazy
23:04 < veteran> the wiki doesn't show any huge increase
23:04 < veteran> i think those were just hits on the old SF page
23:05 < macpod> we should really chagne the front page tothe wiki
23:05 < piratePenguin> kewl
23:05 < macpod> there are a bunch of people who come and ask if the project is still alive
23:05 < veteran> haha yeah
23:05 < macpod> simply because there is no activity on that first page
23:05 < veteran> they wouldn't ask if they saw the wiki =)
23:05 < macpod> personally i think it hurts us
23:05 < veteran> yep
23:05 < piratePenguin> macpod: I just changed a CVS command.. cause it didnt work for me (removed a second -d flag)
23:05 < veteran> ask bern in forums
23:05 < macpod> are you running os x?
23:06 < macpod> piratePenguin
23:06 < macpod> ?
23:06 < piratePenguin> no.. linux
23:09 < macpod> kk
23:12 < piratePenguin> did anyone make that ipodlinux -> ipod script yet?
23:13 < piratePenguin> virus*
23:18 < piratePenguin> macpod: http://www.ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=677 .. might be nice to change the OS X installer to use one of those splashes
23:20 < macpod> I think it would be best if I kept the bootloader image as the same as the one everyone is using
23:20 < macpod> however I beleive that did change
23:20 < macpod> and that image sucks
23:20 < macpod> :D
23:20 < macpod> I'll draw something, I've got a little artistic blood
23:20 < macpod> and it's a bitch to clean out of carpets
23:22 < veteran> ha
23:22 < macpod> If I do make a logo
23:22 < macpod> what should it be of?
23:23 < macpod> we got a generic penguine
23:23 < macpod> and an ipod
23:23 < piratePenguin> lol
23:23 < veteran> hmm
23:24 < veteran> is this for the osx isntaller
23:24 < veteran> or the bootloader
23:24 < piratePenguin> what about a gif-making app for the ipod :p
23:24 < macpod> for the bootloader/sitewide logo
23:24 < macpod> or should I just re-draw the current image?
23:24 < veteran> hm make a sillouette of a penguin dancing
23:24 < macpod> so the penguine does not look stoned
23:25 < veteran> with a white line traced to their headphones, and to the ipod
23:25 < piratePenguin> heh
23:25 < macpod> ah veteran, that is a good iea
23:25 < veteran> like the ipod commercials
23:25 < macpod> that might nto look too bad on the ipod either
23:25 < macpod> what else
23:25 < macpod> however I do like that idea
23:28 < macpod> what is also good about that idea is it does not involve any trademarks or logos of apple
23:28 < macpod> so we stay that much farther away from the law
23:29 < veteran> i would like to see a loading image on the pod, instead of all the /etc/rc output scrolling
23:29 < veteran> possibly an animation?
23:29 < macpod> we can do that late
23:30 < macpod> rbut first
23:30 < macpod> the logo
23:30 < veteran> hah okay
23:30 < veteran> a penguine eating an apple, listening to his ipod?
23:30 < veteran> arrogant =]
23:30 < macpod> sir we are not eating apple inc
23:31 < macpod> siloette idea is better 
23:31 < veteran> make it with a wild color background
23:31 < veteran> lime green, so we can use on front ipodlinux.org page
23:31 < veteran> then a greyscale image after that
23:31 < macpod> x.x
23:32 < macpod> lime green hurts eyes
23:32 < veteran> ... apple commercials hurt eyes?
23:32 < macpod> that is not lime green
23:32 < macpod> forget bout da colors
23:32 < macpod> what about design ideas I shoudl ask
23:32 < macpod> actually brb
23:32 < macpod> gotta put somethign down on paper
23:33 < veteran> http://www.apple.com/ipod/
23:33 < veteran> ipodlinux: The best just got better.
23:33 < veteran> hm lawsuit
23:33 < loofus> hahaha
23:33 < loofus> veteran: Thats awesome.
23:35 < piratePenguin> can you ppl browse yer music the proper way (without going to file browser) on yer ipods?
23:35 < veteran> yep
23:35  * piratePenguin cant
23:35 < veteran> grab a newer podzilla
23:35 < piratePenguin> how come I cant? I got the latest podzilla from CVS a few hrs ago
23:36 < piratePenguin> could it be a messed up iTunesDB ?
23:36 < piratePenguin> cause I think that happened before
23:42 < piratePenguin> veteran: what program do you use to transfer songs to yer ipod~?
23:50 < veteran> itunes
23:51 < piratePenguin> so your on windows?
23:51 < veteran> linux lappy, windows desktop i'm sad to say
23:51 < piratePenguin> huh?
23:51 < veteran> my laptop is linux
23:51 < veteran> i do a lot of video editing, so i'm stuck with windows for now on my desktop
23:51 < piratePenguin> ahh..
23:51 < macpod> vet get a mac
23:52 < macpod> and final cut pro
23:52 < piratePenguin> I think gtkpod might have messed up my iTunesDB
23:52 < macpod> and motion and shake
23:52 < macpod> mmm
23:53 < piratePenguin> I pity you btw... damn, I used to have nightmares bout winblowz
23:54 < veteran> yeah i still do
23:54 < veteran> but they're real
23:54 < piratePenguin> :|
23:54 < veteran> macpod i would if 3dsmax was mac =/
23:54 < macpod> maya is
23:55 < veteran> half life 2?
23:55 < veteran> =)
23:55 < piratePenguin> heh
23:55 < macpod> virtual pc? :D
23:55 < piratePenguin> veteran: tried using wine for those apps? I guess its probably pretty hopeless...
23:55 < veteran> tried with premiere
23:55 < veteran> gotta run, later all
23:55 < piratePenguin> as is video editing in linux altogether
23:55 < piratePenguin> gl
23:55 < macpod> later veteran
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