--- Log opened Wed Nov 24 00:00:02 2004 00:05 < veteran> •courtc• leach wants to take his time on the migration 00:06 < veteran> everything's ready, I don't see why we can't go ahead and finish it now 00:06 < veteran> the forum isn't moved already, just the wiki 00:06 < normalperson> does anybody use the mailing list? 00:07 < normalperson> I remember subscribing to it a few weeks ago, haven't heard anything 00:07 < normalperson> at least there's IRC 00:07 < normalperson> <-- doesn't like web forums too much 00:08 < Wammy> http://nosoftwarepatents.com/ 00:09 < normalperson> hyperlinks are patented! 00:09 < normalperson> :) 00:15 < veteran> •Luke• any luck? 00:42 < courtc> " veteran: in that case we should just wait till thursday or friday... i'd prefer to not rush it." i think he said this because of the mysql error.. but that was on the wiki, right? 00:50 < courtc> I got another 1064 error :/ 00:52 < courtc> and the page wont show up at all.. :( 00:59 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:02 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff@d57-31-222.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:03 < courtc> veteran: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2004-February000159.html 01:04 < veteran> 404 01:05 < courtc> sorry, http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2004-February/000159.html 01:05 < veteran> but we want speeeeed 01:05 < veteran> =p 01:06 < courtc> well at least it'll work... :/ 01:08 < courtc> perhaps you didnt import the linkscc table? 01:08 < veteran> didn't fix it 01:08 < veteran> nope it's there 01:09 < veteran> i'm taking the wiki offline for a few minutes 01:09 < veteran> going to recopy all the files from the old server 01:09 < courtc> have you tried "php update.php" ? 01:10 < courtc> oh wait, nm 01:14 < veteran> hm that didn't change a thing 01:15 < veteran> (copying the files from old server) 01:16 < courtc> hmm.. there is a talk page on Wanted now.. but the discussion link on that page still points to edit 01:17 < veteran> fixed. 01:18 < veteran> not that 01:18 < veteran> but the MySQL is fixed 01:18 < courtc> :) 01:18 < veteran> that fix _did_ work, but for some reason WIKI didn't realize it until I logged in 01:18 < veteran> mm i'm itching to move the forums over 01:18 < veteran> =) 01:19 < courtc> yea, and now the discussion page link is fixed.. 01:20 < courtc> i cant tell any speed difference.. 01:21 < veteran> it probably is more noticable on sites like wikipedia that get hundreds of clicks per second 01:22 < courtc> yup.. well we got that bug fixed.. so theres not really a reason to wait for the forum migration anymore... but what will leachbj think? 01:24 < veteran> well, if I were him I would be relieved that someone else got it out of the way and did it for me 01:24 < veteran> but, i'm fairly sure that i'm not him 01:24 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-31-222.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:24 < courtc> heh.. 01:24 < KuRcZ> hey 01:25 < courtc> KuRcZ: ++windows gui screenshots 01:25 < KuRcZ> ? 01:26 < veteran> when he said "in that case" he was referring to me being unavailable most of the day tommorrow 01:26 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/Wanted 01:26 < veteran> haha thank you =) 01:28 < courtc> he did say he didnt want to rush it.. but i probably wont be available thursday/friday.. so it might be delayed indefinatly.. 01:32 < courtc> ooh.. i have an awesome idea.. you know how google changes its logo on holidays and stuff? we should do something similar with our penguin.. just a few turkey feathers behind him like hes a turkey.. 01:32 < courtc> or perhaps im just loony.. 01:38 < courtc> KuRcZ: can you get us screenshots of the windows GUI installer? 01:44 < KuRcZ> ok 01:45 < KuRcZ> courtc, the logo changing idea is a good one 01:53 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:03 < courtc> veteran: do you have that logo as a svg? 02:04 < courtc> bah, i'll just use the xcf 03:24 < veteran> •courtc• great idea =) 03:25 < courtc> :) 03:32 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:10 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 04:10 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ 04:12 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:12 < veteran_BAH> veteran, Yo mama's so fat she has to buy two airline tickets. 04:12 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:12 < veteran_BAH> thank you. 04:12 -!- veteran_BAH is now known as veteran 04:12 < courtc> ? 04:13 < veteran> lightning in my area 04:13 < veteran> disconnected me 04:13 -!- MyNameIsChris [~chansen@CWPP-p-144-134-229-31.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:14 < veteran> hi Chris 04:14 < MyNameIsChris> Hi 04:15 < MyNameIsChris> I'm going to borrow my friend's Ipod within the next few days to check it out, how easy is it to return the Ipod to the original OS? 04:16 < courtc> what os are you using? 04:17 < courtc> usually as long as you keep a backup its as easy as pie 04:17 < MyNameIsChris> OS on the ipod or on my PC? 04:18 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:18 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:18 < courtc> on your pc... 04:18 < MyNameIsChris> Well, I could choose between Windows, Debian or Fedora 04:18 < MyNameIsChris> Which ever is easiest 04:20 < courtc> its the easiest to resore on windows.. just update the firmware.. on linux its also pretty simple - just a dd away 04:20 < MyNameIsChris> Cool, and what generation Ipod's does it work on? 04:21 < courtc> 1,2 and 3 04:21 < MyNameIsChris> Good, he has a two 04:22 -!- veteran_BAH [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:22 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:22 < MyNameIsChris> Thanks for your answers 04:22 < MyNameIsChris> That is all I have to ask 04:22 < courtc> yep.. good luck.. 04:23 -!- MyNameIsChris [~chansen@CWPP-p-144-134-229-31.prem.tmns.net.au] has left #ipodlinux [] 04:26 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 04:28 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:43 < courtc> shiet.. i had it all drawn up an inkscape crashed.. damnit 04:44 < courtc> it was looking f'ing good too 04:51 < veteran> bah 04:51 < veteran> =( 04:57 < courtc> well let me install frontline and see if i can autotrace it..] 04:59 < veteran> how did you import the xcf? 05:04 < courtc> saved as a png.. then manually traced it.. :p 05:26 -!- veteran [veteran@cs662543-156.houston.rr.com] has quit ["—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515"] 05:43 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:45 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:45 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 06:57 -!- tlg_ [~tlg@207-216.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["leaving"] 07:03 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:43 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:37 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:53 -!- oxygen77 [~oxygen@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:54 -!- oxygen77 [~oxygen@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Tcho"] 08:54 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:01 -!- Wammy| [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Wed Nov 24 09:18:27 2004 --- Log opened Wed Nov 24 09:20:16 2004 10:41 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@p548792C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:41 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 10:43 < courtc> hiya leachbj 10:46 < leachbj> hey courtc 10:46 < leachbj> sorry I didnt get a chance to have a good look at that patch you sent me... it seemded to only be the podzilla code though? 10:47 < courtc> yea, uh.. yea.. 10:50 < courtc> we got the wiki errors got fixed at least.. ;) 10:50 < leachbj> cool, what was the problem there? 10:54 < courtc> the linkscc table wasnt working properly.. its a caching table and its not really necessary.. so we disabled it.. 10:54 < leachbj> but why was it working on one machine and not the other? 10:56 < courtc> i think it was a transition between different mysql versions, and that caused the problems.. 10:56 < leachbj> ah ok... 10:57 < leachbj> thats why I didnt want to rush the forums switch either. give the new server/wiki some burn-in time. 11:00 < leachbj> so what did you change in mw for the invert black/white problem? 11:02 < courtc> i thought just fbreverse in the config file was all that was needed.. i didnt think i would have to delve into driver code ... :/ 11:04 < leachbj> ok, that explains the blank screen... hmmm.. well not exactly... i think we need some mw fixes as well. 11:07 < courtc> fixes other than the driver? 11:12 < leachbj> to the actual driver... I'm just looking at it now.. 11:22 < courtc> blitting requires mmap() doesnt it? 11:23 < leachbj> mmap with the ipod fb just gets you a kmalloc'ed region that the kernel uses internally as a mirror of the actual display 11:24 < courtc> hmm.. thats nice to know.. 11:24 < leachbj> so you can blit to it but it wont show up on the screen ;) 11:26 < courtc> useful ;) 11:26 < leachbj> if you read and write to the fb device it should show up, but if you look at mw/src/drivers/fblin2revipod.c at the bottom you'll see it sends the data to the lcd driver 11:33 < leachbj> ok I think I have the mw fix... go to the config and set FBREVERSE=Y and INVERT2BPP=Y 11:35 < courtc> ok. 11:36 < leachbj> do you have a .jpg on your ipod to check it with? 11:36 < courtc> no.. have one handy? 11:37 < leachbj> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/1.jpg 11:37 < leachbj> don't ask ;) 11:38 < courtc> 403: forbidden 11:38 < leachbj> sorry 11:38 < leachbj> 1sec 11:38 < leachbj> should be right now 11:38 < courtc> np 11:39 < courtc> are you sure? 11:39 < leachbj> -rw-r--r-- 1 leachbj ipodlinux 10274 Nov 24 03:35 1.jpg 11:39 < courtc> still getting a 403.. :/ 11:40 < leachbj> shift-reload? 11:40 < courtc> on wget? ;) 11:40 < leachbj> haha... hmmm "works for me" with wget and firefox. 11:44 < courtc> ok well, scp works ;) 11:44 < leachbj> cool. 11:48 < courtc> blank screen still 11:50 < leachbj> so if you diff -u config Configs/config.ipod, do you just get the change of INVERT2BPP from Y to N? 11:52 < courtc> yea, that and the jpeg stuff 11:52 < leachbj> and you clean built microwindows, then clean rebuilt podzilla? 11:53 < courtc> well i think i clean built microwindows.. i was just making sure now.. 11:55 < courtc> ahha apperently i didnt.. works now 11:55 < leachbj> cool :) and the images show up ok? 11:55 < courtc> yup, perfect 11:56 < courtc> thats the first image i've looked at on my ipod also.. 11:56 < leachbj> hahaha :) http://ipodlinux.sf.net/ipodlinuxtux.jpg is probably nicer ;) 11:59 < courtc> yea, although this image is nice, for some reason it just doesnt fit me.. ;) 11:59 < leachbj> cool, ok I'll check in the changes to MW if you can do the podzilla changes that would be cool... 12:00 < courtc> ok.. i'll try and filter out all those removed trailing spaces ;) 12:00 < leachbj> does your editor do that or something? 12:02 < courtc> yea, its actually a pretty nice feature i think.. but somehow not the best for revisioning 12:03 < leachbj> yeah I wouldn't worry about it too much... it does generate a bit of noise in the edits but its no big deal... if you can though just check in the files that have real changes (e.g. skip the btree and mp3decoder files...) 12:03 < leachbj> but the ones that have real changes don't worry about the whitespace changes. 12:03 < courtc> ok.. 12:25 < leachbj> ok, the microwindows changes are in now 12:30 < courtc> and the podzilla changes also.. 12:34 < KuRcZ> booo school 12:35 < leachbj> looks pretty good. did the scores in pong alway overwrite each other? 12:35 < courtc> well, i got a pretty hefty reply back from Efram.. it seems hes thinking about going down the plugin track.. 12:35 < courtc> ?? 12:37 < courtc> i dont see it.. where? 12:38 < leachbj> sorry not pong... bluecube! 12:38 < courtc> oh.. 12:38 < courtc> hmm.. 12:38 < courtc> no.. good eye.. 12:40 < courtc> its cause the background is turned off.. it doesnt erase.. it just overwrites the old text.. i'll fix that up 12:40 < leachbj> cool, it happens in the x11 version also so its easy enough to test :) 12:41 < leachbj> yeah the plug-in way would be fine if we could load shared objects (although it means things are little more complicated to build) 13:05 < courtc> ok, bluecube fix committed 13:08 < leachbj> cool, seems to take care of the problem 13:09 < courtc> wow, we now have bmp, gif, pnm, xpm and jpeg support.. nice.. 13:10 < leachbj> yup :) 13:17 < leachbj> ok, regarding this forum migration. you said the other day that the backup/restore function didnt work so we have to do an msql export... 13:18 < leachbj> did you just dump all the forum tables? 13:20 < courtc> i used mysqldump to dump the whole ipodlinux database.. it was about 11MB uncompressed 13:21 < leachbj> ah ok, b/c there are some bogus wiki pages in there as well 13:21 < leachbj> s/pages/tables/ 13:23 < courtc> and thats the cruft you wanted to clear out ... 13:25 < leachbj> I dont think it would be good if we overwrote the new wiki with a blank one ;) 13:26 < courtc> well.. it *should* be a different database.. 13:26 < leachbj> sure /should/ but /is/? 13:26 < leachbj> in anycase the phpbb tables are all prefixed with phpbb_ 13:28 < courtc> did you see the .htaccess in the docroot? that should do the redirection job and keep all links intact.. 13:30 < leachbj> cool, that seems to work well 13:36 < leachbj> we should put in temporary redirection while we migrate the forums too. 13:37 < leachbj> ok, I've dropped all the old tables 13:38 < courtc> yea, that shouldnt be a problem, you can use the same line just: Redirect 301 /forums forumsdown.html 13:40 < courtc> does the new pz beta have all the image support thats in CVS? 13:41 < leachbj> yup 13:42 < courtc> are you sure you cleaned the right tables? :/ the sf forums are not happy 13:43 < leachbj> great 13:43 < leachbj> should be back now 13:46 < courtc> i'm getting a 500 Internal Server Error 13:46 < leachbj> just resubmit/reload 13:49 < courtc> ok.. thats better.. 13:52 < leachbj> adding the second redirect caused that... 13:54 < courtc> hmm.. are you atking the forums down now? 13:54 < courtc> taking* 13:54 < leachbj> no just testing the redirection stuff 13:54 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:55 < leachbj> hmm... so why doesnt this work... "RewriteRule /forums.new2.* /forumsdown.shtml [R]" 13:57 < courtc> did you do a "RewriteEngine on" before hand? 13:57 < leachbj> yup 14:03 < courtc> forums.new2.* is? a bunch of files or a folder? 14:04 < courtc> perhaps something else? 14:04 < leachbj> it doesn't exist ;) it would be forums.* when we turn it on for real 14:05 < courtc> you mean ^/forums(.*) ? ;) 14:06 < leachbj> well ^/forums.* yeah... 14:06 < leachbj> still doesnt work though. 14:06 < leachbj> maybe they dont support rewriteengine...? 14:07 < courtc> dunno exactly how mod_rewrite's regex works.. have you tried escaping the . in forums.new2 ? 14:08 < leachbj> a regex . matches a . ;) anyhow tried the escape but it didnt help 14:09 < courtc> ive met some cases where . didnt match . :/ 14:13 < leachbj> ok, got it... I need to put the .htaccess in the forums directory 14:20 < courtc> cool, so we are all set.. 14:21 < leachbj> so how does this sound for a migration plan... 1. wait for forums to be idle, 2. cp forums.htaccess to forums/ on sf (this redirects to the closed page) 3. do the msql dump 4. copy it over 5. backup current db on new server 6. import forum data 7. test forums on new server 8. if all ok enable the .htaccess redirection and remove the forums/.htaccess 14:23 < courtc> sounds like a good plan.. 14:23 < leachbj> step 2 would be cp forums.htaccess to forums/.htaccess 14:26 < courtc> alright.. looks good.. 14:26 < leachbj> cool, I'd be happy to let you do it now we have a plan, the timezones don't help me... 14:28 < courtc> heh.. alright, i can get it done... i'm not sure when veteran will show up.. he says he'll be out most of today.. 14:29 < leachbj> yup, when everyones 'round it should be pretty straight forward now. if the migration doesnt work for whatever reason just remove the redirection so they are enabled on the old server again. 14:31 < leachbj> hmm... Could not copy file "/tmp/php8fVY2x" to "/www/ipodlinux.org/images/8/8c/Sik_badge.gif". 14:32 < leachbj> mkdir(/www/ipodlinux.org/images/8/8c): Permission denied 14:32 < courtc> probably another permissions problem.. i'll let veteran know 14:32 < courtc> yep.. :/ 14:33 < leachbj> cool, ok I gotta get some work done. 14:34 < courtc> alright, have fun ;) 14:34 < leachbj> thanks for your help with sorting out that back-to-front color problem... probably should have done that long ago ;) 14:48 < courtc> yea, no problem.. i need to do something useful every once an a while ;) 14:48 -!- leachbj_ [~leachbj@pD9EAA69C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:03 -!- tlg [~tlg@207-216.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 15:04 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@p548792C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:06 -!- leachbj_ is now known as leachbj 15:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 16:03 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:06 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:25 < KuRcZ> hey 20:37 < KuRcZ> im getting pics of the window installer 20:42 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:06 -!- Wammy [Wammy@ip68-6-134-73.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:22 -!- courtc_ [~court@adsl-158-46-40.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:41 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-217-4-181.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:19 -!- courtc_ is now known as courtc 22:20 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o courtc ] by ChanServ 23:59 -!- Luke [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 23:59 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o Luke ] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Nov 25 00:00:01 2004