--- Log opened Sun Nov 21 00:00:01 2004 00:00 < veteran> that might help promote the project a little 00:00 < BlindSpy> yea 00:00 < veteran> or at least attract some expert WIKI editors to look at our mutilation of mediawiki 00:00 < veteran> =) 00:01 < BlindSpy> i know a wiki expert 00:01 < veteran> buy him an ipod 00:01 < BlindSpy> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page 00:01 < BlindSpy> he wrote that 00:02 < veteran> nice 00:02 < courtc> hah.. i've got to eat.. i'll be back in 30-45, if anywant needs me.. well that sucks for you ;/ 00:02 < BlindSpy> kk 00:02 < veteran> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Wanted good idea 00:02 < auk> well, i downloaded the ipodloader and extracted the files to my home dir, tried the command again and got the same message. any ideas? 00:02 < BlindSpy> we should all copy off of http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page more 00:02 < BlindSpy> that guy's been doing it for a while and knows whats up 00:03 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 00:06 < veteran> gotta run 00:06 < veteran> nice job on the wiki! 00:06 < veteran> most edits in wikipodlinux history today! 00:06 < veteran> over 80 00:07 < BlindSpy> =) 00:07 < BlindSpy> see ya 00:07 < BlindSpy> im gunna *G* out too 00:07 < BlindSpy> see ya all 00:08 < auk> hello? 00:08 < auk> anyone there? 00:22 < courtc> oi 00:26 < courtc> are you in the directory containing make_fw? 00:30 < auk> hello? 00:31 < courtc> err.. hi? 00:31 < auk> ok just checking if you were still there 00:32 < courtc> so, are you in that directory? 00:32 < auk> yes, i am in the directory containing make_fw 00:34 < courtc> ok, hold on i'll update that page 00:34 < auk> wait a minute, the download creted suddirs, let me try again 00:35 < auk> *subdirs* 00:36 < auk> nevermind, didnt fix it 00:37 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [] 00:39 < courtc> alright check the page now.. 00:39 < auk> will do 00:39 < courtc> you should use ./make_fw bla 00:41 < auk> you mean http://ipodlinux.org/index.php/Installation_from_Linux , right 00:41 < courtc> hmm, no 00:42 < auk> what's the URL? 00:42 < courtc> hold up let me check tah page also 00:45 < courtc> k look now 00:47 < auk> tried the command and, "Cannot open firmware image file ipod_os_partition_backup" 00:49 < courtc> thats suppose to point to where your previous backup is 00:50 < auk> oh! just a minute 00:57 < auk> that seems right but the error stands 00:59 < auk> you there? 00:59 < courtc> yes, patience.. 00:59 < auk> ok... 01:01 < courtc> so you are running "./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 /location/of/your/ipod_partition_backup" ? 01:02 < auk> im not sure where the backup is located 01:02 < courtc> did you make a backup? 01:02 < auk> i followed the directions to make a backup 01:02 < auk> ? 01:03 < courtc> and what directory were you in when you did that? 01:03 < auk> i think my home 01:04 < courtc> ok, can you find it there? 01:04 < auk> yes, i located the backup 01:06 < courtc> ok, run the make_fw command with the path to it 01:07 < courtc> so : "./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 /your/homedir/ipod_partition_backup" 01:07 < auk> ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 /your/homedir/ipod_os_partition_backup , anyway 01:08 < courtc> um, yea.. 01:09 < auk> here's a exerpt: root@ubuntulinux-scott:/home/scott/ipodloader-0.3.1 # ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup 01:09 < auk> Cannot open firmware image file ipod_os_partition_backup 01:09 < auk> root@ubuntulinux-scott:/home/scott/ipodloader-0.3.1 # ./make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 /home/scott/ipod_os_partition_backup 01:09 < auk> root@ubuntulinux-scott:/home/scott/ipodloader-0.3.1 # 01:10 < auk> sorry bout the mess 01:11 < courtc> ok so it worked? 01:11 < courtc> you should now have a file in the current dir called apple_os.bin 01:12 < auk> apparently 01:12 < auk> got apple_os.bin 01:12 < auk> you think thats that? 01:13 < courtc> ok, now you should be able to continue on with the installation 01:13 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:13 < auk> thanks alot! ill check back in when im done or have another problem 01:14 < courtc> yup, good luck... 01:14 < auk> thanks 01:22 < auk> "Cannot open linux image file uclinux-2.4.24-ipod0.bin" i ran a search for it and came up w/ nothing 01:23 < courtc> you're going to have to download that.. or you can get a newer one from http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/ 01:24 < auk> ill do that... 01:27 < auk> at http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/ theyre all tarballs, and i think im looking for a binary file 01:29 < courtc> guess whats in the tarball? ;) 01:29 < auk> da 01:30 < auk> i should have thought of that 01:32 < auk> so: do i want *-1, *-2, *-3, .... or which? 01:33 < courtc> get the highest *-4 i think.. unless im outdated 01:34 < auk> all right, and its *-5 btw 01:34 < courtc> doh 01:47 < auk> "The lib directory below refers to the directory from the kernel release and contains the modules directory" the terminal text it shows is: "cp -r lib /mnt/tmp" does this mean that i would enter the dir i downloaded the uclinux kernel to: "/home/scott/uclinux" in place of "lib", or what? 01:50 < auk> btw, in the command before i replaced mount -t ext2 /dev/sda3 /mnt/tmp with mount -t ext2 /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipod is that ok? 01:51 < courtc> thats fine, but use the lib dir in the tarball you downlaoded as "lib" 01:53 < auk> youre saying just enter the command as it is on the web page? 01:54 < auk> wait, never mind that last, but ive got to go 01:54 < courtc> ok.. 02:06 -!- tittof [tittof@jane.rl6.de] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 02:07 -!- tittof [tittof@jane.rl6.de] has joined #ipodlinux 02:31 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:47 -!- tittof [tittof@jane.rl6.de] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 02:47 -!- tittof [tittof@jane.rl6.de] has joined #ipodlinux 03:05 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:48 < veteran> back, hey all 03:49 < courtc> hi 03:54 < auk> im back 03:55 < courtc> veteran: waddya thing about the last change to the front page? i changed the table to a float 03:56 < veteran> looks better, nice 04:25 < auk> its done!!!!! 04:26 < courtc> gj auk 04:27 < auk> so... now to fing something useful to do with it 04:29 < courtc> get the latest podzilla, it has games and a calculator and stuff 04:32 < auk> ill try that 04:56 < courtc> veteran: have you seen __NOEDITSECTION__ ? 04:56 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:57 < courtc> i saw you were trying to get rid of some of the edit links.. that does a pretty good job 05:00 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:08 < veteran> oh thanks =) 05:08 < veteran> i really should set aside some time to look through the wiki editing guide 05:08 < veteran> that would probably be much easier than trial and error 05:08 < veteran> lots and lots of error ;p 05:09 < courtc> heh, check out the main page code now.. 05:10 < veteran> whoa 05:10 < veteran> that's a lot simpler than a table haha 05:10 < veteran> very nice 05:11 < courtc> yea, guess whos reading the docs now? ;) mediawiki has some awesome features 05:11 -!- auk [~mockingbi@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:12 < courtc> haha.. 05:13 < courtc> you'll love this next one 05:16 < courtc> ok, check out pictures! 05:18 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 05:18 < veteran> 0.0 05:18 < veteran> beeauttiffulllll! 05:18 < veteran> haha wow... I didn't realize that ImageMagick was installed on my own server 05:18 < veteran> embarrassing! 05:19 < veteran> one of the guys in the web design dept must have installed it 05:19 < courtc> heh.. 05:25 < veteran> should we put a link to the irc on the wiki 05:27 < courtc> there is one under Help 05:27 < courtc> -> Support i mean :/ 05:27 -!- test [~42192b9c@web1.cbsihosting.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:27 < test> wow very nice 05:28 < veteran> . 05:28 -!- test [~42192b9c@web1.cbsihosting.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:28 < courtc> hello test 05:31 < veteran> http://www.ipodlinux.org/chat/irc.cgi 05:32 < auk> hi. im back 05:32 -!- courtc^2 [~44d906a2@web1.cbsihosting.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:32 < veteran> hey, how's linux going? 05:33 < courtc^2> wow, and i mean wow... pretty nifty 05:33 < veteran> yeah hehe =) 05:33 < veteran> very nice script 05:33 < veteran> my only concern is a sudden rush of noobs 05:33 < auk> here's my problem now...... root@ubuntulinux-scott:/ # mount -t ext2 /dev/sda3 /mnt/tmp 05:33 < auk> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, 05:33 < auk> or too many mounted file systems 05:33 < auk> root@ubuntulinux-scott:/ # 05:34 < veteran> try not specifying -t ext2 05:34 < veteran> it should detect automatically 05:34 < auk> just a min 05:34 < courtc> its ext3 anywho 05:34 < veteran> yep 05:34 * courtc^2 tests 05:35 -!- courtc^2 [~44d906a2@web1.cbsihosting.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:35 -!- veteran_cgi [~42192b9c@web1.cbsihosting.com] has joined #ipodlinux 05:35 < veteran_cgi> look at the options button at top right 05:36 < veteran_cgi> test test test fun 05:36 < KuRcZ> mmmmmm 05:36 < KuRcZ> anyone around? 05:36 < KuRcZ> im bored 05:36 < courtc> no thats why were jabbering 05:37 < KuRcZ> figured that 05:37 < courtc> go wiki, its fun 05:37 < KuRcZ> yea 05:37 < KuRcZ> i jsut made a farenhight - celcius chart in C 05:37 < auk> veteran: hey! thanks alot! 05:37 < KuRcZ> im proud of myself :D 05:38 < veteran> •auk• have fun =) 05:38 < KuRcZ> int a,c; 05:38 < KuRcZ> printf("Fahrenheit\t"); 05:38 < KuRcZ> printf("Celsius\n"); 05:38 < KuRcZ> for(a=0; a<=200; a=a+5) 05:38 < KuRcZ> if(a>100) 05:38 < KuRcZ> 05:38 < KuRcZ> printf("%d\t\t%d\n", a,c = 5*(a - 32) / 9); 05:38 < courtc> good job man... the first time i made one was in vbs(bleh) 05:39 < veteran> ah vbs... i remember those days =) 05:39 < courtc> just for syntax c is usually a char 05:39 < courtc> :p 05:39 < veteran> i was very proud of my javascript textbox that changed colors 05:39 < KuRcZ> lol 05:41 < courtc> hah.. i used mine for anything i could... dialing up to the internet entering passwords that sort of stuff... 05:42 < courtc> oh and the the popup box that executed itself twice when you closed it 05:42 < courtc> that was always fun 05:43 < courtc> and it closed itself after 10 seconds or so 05:44 < veteran_cgi> hahaha 05:44 < veteran_cgi> i wrote one almost exactly like that 05:44 < auk> whenever i try to unmount my ipod it says its busy. any ideas 05:45 < veteran_cgi> except it didn't close itself after 10 seconds 05:45 < veteran_cgi> auk - annoying.... I've seen that a lot in mandrake 05:45 < veteran_cgi> try running 05:45 < veteran_cgi> rmmod sbp2 05:45 < veteran_cgi> as root 05:45 < courtc> use fuser -m /mnt/ipod 05:45 < courtc> it'll tell you whats using it 05:46 < auk> thanks 05:46 < courtc> in pids 05:46 < veteran_cgi> i prefer the militaristic approach but yeah that'll work too =) 05:46 < courtc> haha 05:46 < veteran_cgi> if something's using it, KILL THE MODULE haha 05:47 -!- veteran_cgi [~42192b9c@web1.cbsihosting.com] has quit ["CGI:IRC"] 05:47 < courtc> or you could yank the ipod.. 05:47 < auk> apparently 4822c is using it 05:48 < courtc> do a "ps ax | grep 4822" 05:49 < auk> wait, what was that about yank the ipod? 05:49 < courtc> it was a joke.. 05:50 < auk> thats exactly what i did when i finished the install, and it seemed to work fine 05:50 < courtc> 112% percent of what i say is sarcasm 05:50 < veteran> heh heh ;) 05:51 < courtc> well sometimes it does, you just have plan your yanks properly 05:51 < veteran> i usually forget to umount the pod before unplugging it 05:51 < auk> so..., is it safe? 05:52 < courtc> i wouldnt do it on purpose.. but it probaly wont set anything ablaze 05:52 < auk> its just that ive always been yanking it, even in windows 05:53 < courtc> "ok to disconnect" is always safest 05:53 < auk> ill try ps ax | grep 4822 05:54 < courtc> that will tell you what 4822 is 05:55 < courtc> then you can use close it orderly 05:56 < auk> !?its bash? 05:56 < courtc> or you can kill -9 4822 if you get frustrated... kill -9 is good for the soul 05:56 < courtc> type pwd 05:57 < auk> /mnt/linpod/etc 05:57 < courtc> sigh 05:57 < courtc> cd /; umount /dev/sda 05:58 < auk> finally! 05:59 < auk> thanks, again 05:59 < courtc> yup 06:01 < veteran> when in doubt, unplug the computer 06:01 < auk> ! 06:02 < courtc> with your tongue 06:02 < BlindSpy> hehe 06:02 < BlindSpy> whatsup guys 06:02 < BlindSpy> man i love working with you guys on this project =) 06:02 < courtc> heya.. 06:02 < veteran> o.0 ...i thought you said that you killed him... 06:03 < veteran> errr, hey man! good to see you 06:03 < courtc> rofl.. we got thumbnails 06:04 < veteran> yeah and a nice noob-to-IRC interface 06:12 < veteran> i really really need to learn C. 06:13 < courtc> its easy as cake 06:13 < veteran> i hate baking 06:13 < courtc> one of those wedding cakes with like 5 layers :/ 06:14 < veteran> heh 06:15 < KuRcZ> whats wrong with this 06:15 < veteran> wow i know four other people in this channel 06:15 < KuRcZ> int a, c; char b; 06:15 < KuRcZ> printf("Fahrenheit\tCelsius\n"); 06:15 < KuRcZ> b = "hot hot hot\n"; 06:15 < KuRcZ> for(a=0; a<=200; a=a+5) 06:15 < KuRcZ> printf("%d\t\t%d\n", a,c = 5*(a - 32) / 9); 06:15 < KuRcZ> if(a>100) 06:15 < KuRcZ> printf("%d\t\t%d\t%s", a,c = 5*(a - 32) / 9,b); 06:16 < courtc> be should be an array 06:16 < courtc> b* 06:16 < courtc> or a pointer 06:16 < courtc> define it like so: 06:16 < veteran> o.o six layers. 06:16 < KuRcZ> i dont know pointers yet :/ 06:16 < veteran> i love my delphi haha 06:17 < courtc> char *b = "hot hot hot" 06:17 < KuRcZ> ok 06:17 < courtc> if you do that you wont have to alloc any memory for it 06:17 < KuRcZ> soi still need char b; ? 06:18 < courtc> no 06:18 < KuRcZ> k 06:18 < KuRcZ> didnt think so 06:19 < KuRcZ> int a, c; char *b = "hot hot hot"; 06:19 < KuRcZ> printf("Fahrenheit\tCelsius\n"); 06:19 < KuRcZ> for(a=0; a<=200; a=a+5) 06:19 < KuRcZ> printf("%d\t\t%d\n", a,c = 5*(a - 32) / 9); 06:19 < KuRcZ> if(a>100) 06:20 < KuRcZ> printf("%d\t\t%d\t%s", a,c = 5*(a - 32) / 9,&b); 06:20 < KuRcZ> sometihng is still wrong 06:20 < KuRcZ> no errors or warnings 06:20 < KuRcZ> but 06:20 < KuRcZ> i prints 205 96 L 06:20 < KuRcZ> and i only want it to 200 06:21 < auk> ok. im confused again. i entered root@ubuntulinux-scott:/ # mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/linpod 06:21 < auk> mount: special device /dev/sda3 does not exist 06:21 < courtc> auk: did you modprobe? 06:22 < veteran> try 06:22 < veteran> . /dev/sdb3 06:22 < veteran> sdb3 sdc3 sdd3 06:22 < veteran> another thing you can try 06:22 < veteran> is 06:22 < veteran> fdisk -l 06:23 < veteran> lists all active recognized partitions and which devices they are on 06:23 < courtc> ok KuRcZ, you need {'s and }'s to enclose your for loop 06:23 < KuRcZ> ahhh 06:23 < KuRcZ> its always sometihng dumb 06:23 < KuRcZ> lol 06:24 < courtc> also use a+=5 rather that a=a+5 06:24 < KuRcZ> now it prints Lthen the next line on the same line then does /n then prints the same shit 06:25 < auk> veteran: should i be paying attention to the b in sdb3? 06:25 < veteran> haha yes 06:25 < auk> k 06:26 < veteran> sd means scsi device 06:26 < veteran> a through z are the possible controllers 06:26 < veteran> sbp2 can show up as a different controller after you umount it sometimes 06:26 < veteran> or especially if you rmmod sbp2 06:26 < veteran> make sure that 06:27 < veteran> modprobe sbp2 06:33 < veteran> haha courtc you worked waaaaaaay too long on your users page 06:33 < veteran> somebody must be bored ;p 06:34 < auk> i think i got it figured out 06:34 < auk> its hdb2 06:34 < courtc> veteran: i dont know what you are talking about ;) 06:35 < veteran> hdb is one of your hard drives 06:38 < auk> yeah... im more confused than ever 06:38 < KuRcZ> mmmm im sleepy 06:38 < veteran> modprobe sbp2 06:39 < veteran> that's what makes your ipod show up as a device 06:39 < veteran> then type fdisk -l 06:40 < auk> did that, but my ipod still wont show... 06:40 < veteran> what does fdisk -l say 06:41 < veteran> paste it here 06:41 < auk> /dev/hda1 * 1 7943 60049048+ 7 HPFS/NTFS 06:41 < auk> Disk /dev/hdb: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes 06:41 < auk> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38792 cylinders 06:41 < auk> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes 06:41 < auk> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System 06:41 < auk> /dev/hdb1 1 17439 8789224+ 83 Linux 06:41 < auk> /dev/hdb2 * 17440 34878 8789256 83 Linux 06:41 < auk> /dev/hdb3 34879 38792 1972656 83 Linux 06:42 < veteran> your ipod is 20gb? 06:42 < veteran> and do you have two hard drives? 06:42 < auk> both my ipod and hard drive 06:42 < veteran> oh okay hdb is your hard drive 06:42 < veteran> for some reason your ipod isnt listed 06:43 < veteran> rmmod sbp2 06:43 < auk> yes i have one 60 GB, windows xp, and one 20GB, linux 06:43 < veteran> then modprobe sbp2 06:43 < veteran> then fdisk -l again and see if anything is different 06:44 < auk> nthing dif 06:44 < veteran> unplug pod, wait a bit then plug back in and try the rmmod/modprobe again 06:44 < auk> k 06:45 < auk> wait, does it matter if the ipod is booted into linux or ipod when i plug it in? 06:47 < auk> hello? 06:48 < courtc> yea, it needs to be in disk mode... 06:48 < auk> k 06:49 < auk> im plugging it in now 06:49 < courtc> wait, you didnt have it plugged in? 06:50 < auk> n, i did earlier, i unplugged it at 22:44 06:55 < auk> hello? 06:55 < courtc> hi! 06:55 < courtc> so its in disk mod right? 06:55 < auk> so... what should i do? 06:56 < auk> yes 06:56 < auk> and plugged in 06:56 < courtc> oh good, have you tried a modprobe sbp2 ? 06:57 < auk> but its not synchronizing, i can still see the podzilla menu 06:57 < auk> yep, then fdisk -l 06:57 < courtc> you said it was in disk mode... 06:58 < auk> hmm?..... 06:58 < veteran> exit podzilla 06:58 < veteran> diskmode is not in linux 06:58 < courtc> linux doesnt put the ipod in disk mode when you plug it in 06:58 < KuRcZ> i know 06:58 < KuRcZ> that sucks 06:58 < courtc> you need to reboot the ipod 06:58 < KuRcZ> yea 06:58 < veteran> haha KuRcZ 06:58 < auk> reboot into 06:59 < KuRcZ> before you unplug 06:59 < KuRcZ> the whole ipod 06:59 < auk> reboot into ...... before i unplug 06:59 < KuRcZ> reboot the ipod 07:00 < auk> back to linux? 07:00 < courtc> hes right KuRcZ, you arent making much sense 07:00 < auk> sorry if i dont know much 07:00 < KuRcZ> i know 07:00 < KuRcZ> its late 07:01 < courtc> aww come on its only 2am(EST) 07:01 < KuRcZ> yea... 07:01 < KuRcZ> lol 07:01 < KuRcZ> i've been up since 7am 07:01 < KuRcZ> est 07:01 < veteran> central time is better. 07:01 < KuRcZ> how so? 07:01 < veteran> it's more, in the center. 07:02 < courtc> haha 07:02 < courtc> ok, auk: reboot into the apple firmware 07:02 < auk> k 07:02 < veteran> not left, not right... independant. 07:02 < KuRcZ> lol 07:03 < courtc> what about GMT? wouldnt that be even better by your standards? 07:03 < KuRcZ> no... 07:03 < KuRcZ> cuz then you have to subtractor add 07:03 < KuRcZ> lol 07:03 < auk> done...plug it back in now? 07:03 < KuRcZ> yea 07:03 < KuRcZ> i think 07:03 < courtc> not if you live on the meridian 07:03 < veteran> Texas is the meridian by my standards 07:04 < courtc> lol 07:04 < veteran> well, it will be in a few years 07:04 < veteran> i swear i saw it on Bush's agenda 07:04 < courtc> you must be a texan to think texes it the center of all ;/ 07:05 < veteran> yep =) 07:05 < KuRcZ> yea 07:05 < KuRcZ> bush >= a fool 07:05 < KuRcZ> lol 07:06 < veteran> without the equal sign, yes =p 07:06 < courtc> hah 07:06 < KuRcZ> lol 07:07 < veteran> i give up 07:07 < veteran> goodnight all 07:07 < KuRcZ> im Canadian...woot * 07:07 < courtc> you give up? 07:07 < veteran> www.marryanamerican.ca 07:09 < courtc> heh, funny 07:10 -!- veteran is now known as vet_snoring 07:10 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 07:11 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:12 < courtc> brb, snack 07:12 < KuRcZ> mmm snack 07:15 < auk> hello? 07:15 < KuRcZ> hi 07:19 < courtc> k 07:20 < KuRcZ> k 07:20 < KuRcZ> i feel like chips 07:23 < courtc> auk: is something not working or were you just checking to see if we were here? 07:24 < auk> well..... my sister took the cable now(i lost mine) so i cant really go much further 07:33 < auk> anyone there? 07:34 < courtc> yes.. 07:34 < auk> hi 07:35 < courtc> .. hi, is this a game? 07:35 < auk> no 07:35 < courtc> like ping-pong 07:35 < auk> lol 07:40 < auk> does 2.4.24 come w/ viP? 07:41 < courtc> um, no 07:41 < auk> thats why i cant wiew any text files 07:42 < courtc> text file viewing is done with textviewer.c build into podzilla 07:43 < courtc> viP is a command line editor 07:43 < auk> and, i cant go past the second level menus except in the file braowser. i guess the new release i alot better 07:44 < courtc> yes, when you get a chance you should get the latest podzilla binary 07:44 < auk> yeah.... tomorrow probably 07:54 < auk> how do you enter text while in sash? 07:56 < courtc> you need to update sash to the ipod version.. otherwise all you will get is ares l's w's p's f's and m's 07:57 < courtc> stupid x-chat auto complete ares 07:57 < courtc> r"s 07:57 < auk> yeah, i foud that out by playing with it 07:58 < auk> so basically everything on the ipod needs an upgrade 07:59 < courtc> thats sooo dumb r gets autocomped 08:00 < courtc> well, alot has changed since the release.. i think bern is going to update the release here soon 08:00 < auk> bern? 08:01 < courtc> leachbj.. the project admin 08:01 < auk> oh. 08:54 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:22 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:31 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 10:32 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 11:43 -!- Guest [~d9eaa41a@web1.cbsihosting.com] has joined #ipodlinux 11:43 -!- Guest [~d9eaa41a@web1.cbsihosting.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 13:55 -!- Random [~random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:11 -!- capuzzo [~tobbe@h105n3fls306o1124.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:01 < KuRcZ> hey 16:02 -!- mytummyhertz [~killerpot@pool-68-160-210-141.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:04 < mytummyhertz> hello 16:05 < KuRcZ> hi 16:05 < mytummyhertz> hey 16:05 < KuRcZ> what's up? 16:06 < mytummyhertz> i was trying to build a simple ASCII pacman game i found on the internet 16:06 < mytummyhertz> i hit some snags 16:06 < mytummyhertz> lol 16:07 < mytummyhertz> is there anyone here with any real knoledge of building for ipods? 16:09 < mytummyhertz> ??? 16:14 < mytummyhertz> ok i think i found the problem 16:15 < mytummyhertz> anyone there? 16:17 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB096.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:17 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 16:17 < mytummyhertz> its leachbj! 16:18 < mytummyhertz> leach can you help me with a stupid compiling error? 16:18 < leachbj> maybe... shoot. 16:18 < mytummyhertz> ok 16:19 < mytummyhertz> this is what im trying 16:19 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/gcc -Wl,elf2flt pacman.cpp -c 16:19 < mytummyhertz> and its giving me this 16:19 < mytummyhertz> In file included from /usr/local/arm-elf/stlport/fstream:33, 16:19 < mytummyhertz> from pacman.cpp:8: 16:19 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/stlport/stl/_fstream.h:125: #error "Port!" 16:19 < mytummyhertz> In file included from /usr/local/arm-elf/stlport/fstream:33, 16:19 < mytummyhertz> from pacman.cpp:8: 16:19 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/stlport/stl/_fstream.h:125: #error "Port!" 16:19 < mytummyhertz> oops double posted sry 16:20 < leachbj> looks like its using some part of the c++ stl that is not supported with that toolchain 16:20 < mytummyhertz> dammit thats wut i thought 16:20 < mytummyhertz> any solution? 16:21 < leachbj> what happens if you add -D_STLP_UNIX to your compile line? 16:21 < mytummyhertz> let me try 16:22 < mytummyhertz> im guessing add the D flag after the elf2flt flag? 16:22 < leachbj> gcc -Wl,-elf2flt -D_STLP_UNIX -c pacman.cpp 16:23 < mytummyhertz> well i got a different error 16:23 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp: In function `int main(int, char **)': 16:23 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:182: implicit declaration of function `int usleep(...)' 16:24 < mytummyhertz> any ideas what that means? 16:25 < leachbj> it means that on line 182 the function usleep was used without a prototype... thats a no-no in c++ 16:25 < mytummyhertz> lol 16:25 < mytummyhertz> o god im so bad at c++ 16:26 < mytummyhertz> im like a C amateur 16:26 < mytummyhertz> i dont wanna have to crack open this guys code and fix it 16:26 < mytummyhertz> well may as well have a LOOK at it 16:27 < mytummyhertz> ok i pretty much only code in C i know only a TINY bit of C++ 16:27 < mytummyhertz> and as a plus this game was written in french 16:28 < mytummyhertz> but im in this guys code line 182 16:28 < mytummyhertz> now what exactly does it mean that theres no prototype? 16:29 < mytummyhertz> *trying to remember wtf prototype even means* 16:29 < leachbj> just go to before the start of the method/function that has line 182 in it and put "void usleep(unsigned long usec);" without the quotes 16:30 < mytummyhertz> ok so line 182 reads like this 16:30 < mytummyhertz> usleep(T_SLEEP); 16:31 < mytummyhertz> so what do i change it to? 16:31 < leachbj> just go to before the start of the method/function that has line 182 in it and put "void usleep(unsigned long usec);" without the quotes 16:32 < mytummyhertz> o...k.. 16:33 < mytummyhertz> is there a space btween void and usleep? 16:33 < leachbj> ypu 16:33 < leachbj> yup 16:33 < mytummyhertz> k 16:33 < mytummyhertz> ok i think i got this 16:33 < mytummyhertz> let me save and recompile 16:34 < mytummyhertz> well this is an odd error 16:34 < mytummyhertz> gcc: elf2flt: linker input file unused since linking not done 16:34 < mytummyhertz> wuts that mean? is my build line incorrect? 16:36 < mytummyhertz> im building with 16:36 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E571DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:36 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/gcc -Wl,elf2flt -D_STLP_UNIX -c pacman.cpp 16:36 < Jack_MD> hi 16:36 < mytummyhertz> hello 16:37 < Jack_MD> ah, pacman 16:37 < mytummyhertz> lol 16:37 < mytummyhertz> yea leachbj's just giving me some help building 16:37 < Jack_MD> I tried the same procedure like you 16:38 < mytummyhertz> anyway leach, what does that last error mean? 16:38 < leachbj> mytummyhertz: you can ignore that message... its just b/c the -c flag means that no linking is done so the -Wl part (linker flags) are ignored... its not an error 16:39 < mytummyhertz> sweet 16:39 < mytummyhertz> so can i try building all the objects together now? 16:39 < leachbj> sure 16:40 < mytummyhertz> k 16:40 < mytummyhertz> dammit 16:40 < mytummyhertz> i tried building them together with 16:41 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/gcc -Wl,elf2flt getch.o c_pacman.o pacman.o -o pacman 16:41 < mytummyhertz> and got back 16:41 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/ld.real: cannot open elf2flt: No such file or directory 16:41 < mytummyhertz> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 16:41 < mytummyhertz> what on earth does that mean? 16:43 < Jack_MD> @Leachbj: can I use the framebuffer device on the ipl if I execute an app under the shell? 16:43 < leachbj> try "arm-elf-gcc -Wl,-elf2flt getch.o c_pacman.o pacman.o -o pacman" 16:43 < leachbj> Jack_MD: yes 16:43 < mytummyhertz> omg i found the error 16:44 < mytummyhertz> i forgot to but a flag before the eflt2flt 16:44 < mytummyhertz> lol 16:44 < Jack_MD> @leachbj: I have to use fwrite, if I want to show something on the display, right? 16:45 < leachbj> that should work I think 16:45 < mytummyhertz> holy crap my computer is screaming at me 16:45 < mytummyhertz> i tried: 16:45 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/gcc -Wl,-elf2flt getch.o c_pacman.o pacman.o -o pacman 16:46 < mytummyhertz> and it spit like pages of text at me 16:46 < Jack_MD> have to leave now... dinner... cya 16:47 < mytummyhertz> @jack bue 16:47 < mytummyhertz> bye* 16:47 < leachbj> cya Jack_MD 16:47 -!- Jack_MD [~Jack_MD@pD9E571DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:47 < mytummyhertz> leachbj: my computer had a couple pages of text to spit at me 16:47 < mytummyhertz> the last line was: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 16:48 < leachbj> gimme the first couple of lines 16:48 < mytummyhertz> ok 16:48 < mytummyhertz> i gotta find them lol 16:49 < mytummyhertz> ok the first couple lines 16:49 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt: In function `main': 16:49 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt(.text+0xb3c): undefined reference to `_STL::ios_base::operator!(void) const' 16:49 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt(.text+0xbb4): undefined reference to `_STL::ios_base::operator!(void) const' 16:49 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt(.text+0xc20): undefined reference to `_STL::ios_base::operator!(void) const' 16:49 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt(.text+0xcb4): undefined reference to `_STL::ios_base::operator!(void) const' 16:53 < leachbj> try linking with g++ 16:54 < mytummyhertz> how do i do that 16:54 < leachbj> arm-elf-g++ instead of arm-elf-gcc 16:54 < mytummyhertz> u mean rebuild them all using that? 16:57 < mytummyhertz> because i dont seem to have an arm-elf-g++ 16:57 < mytummyhertz> im using the mac toolchain incase ur wondering 16:57 < mytummyhertz> and in /usr/local/arm-elf/bin/ 16:57 < mytummyhertz> there are 16:58 < mytummyhertz> ar as elf2flt flthdr gcc ld ld.real nm ranlib strip 16:58 < mytummyhertz> where is the g++ i should link 2? 16:58 < leachbj> and in /usr/local/bin? 16:59 < mytummyhertz> ur so good 16:59 < mytummyhertz> ok so rebuild each file using arm-elf-g++ ? 16:59 < leachbj> no, just link using that 17:00 < mytummyhertz> u mean when building all the objects together? 17:00 < leachbj> yes 17:01 < mytummyhertz> well at least i have a shorter error 17:01 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/libstdc++.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one 17:01 < mytummyhertz> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 17:02 < mytummyhertz> brb 17:03 < mytummyhertz> bak 17:04 < mytummyhertz> now i have never even herd of ranlib before so what should i put into it? 17:06 < mytummyhertz> ?? 17:07 < leachbj> strange... as root try running "arm-elf-ranlib /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/libstdc++.a" 17:07 < mytummyhertz> ok 17:08 < mytummyhertz> hey it worked 17:08 < mytummyhertz> i think 17:08 < mytummyhertz> no error type things 17:08 < mytummyhertz> ok well i guess ill try to build again then 17:08 < mytummyhertz> dammit 17:09 < mytummyhertz> new errors 17:09 < mytummyhertz> isnt this fun 17:09 < mytummyhertz> upon trying: 17:09 < mytummyhertz> arm-elf-g++ -Wl,-elf2flt getch.o c_pacman.o pacman.o -o pacman 17:09 < mytummyhertz> i was greeted with 17:09 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/libstdc++.a(locale_impl.o): In function `_STL::locale::global(_STL::locale const &)': 17:09 < mytummyhertz> locale_impl.o(.text+0x2bbc): the 'setlocale' function supports only C|POSIX locales 17:09 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt: In function `main': 17:09 < mytummyhertz> pacman.elf2flt(.text+0x15e0): undefined reference to `usleep(unsigned long)' 17:09 < mytummyhertz> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 17:11 < leachbj> where you edit'ed the file earlier change the prototype to an actual function... e.g. take out the ; and replace it with {}... then recompile that module and re-link 17:11 < mytummyhertz> k 17:11 < mytummyhertz> u mean the ; after the void(usleep... 17:12 < mytummyhertz> rite? 17:12 < leachbj> yup 17:12 < mytummyhertz> the function should end immideatly rite 17:12 < mytummyhertz> so it would look like 17:12 < mytummyhertz> void usleep(unsigned long usec){} 17:12 < leachbj> yup that should be fine 17:12 < mytummyhertz> ok 17:12 < mytummyhertz> let me rebuild 17:13 < mytummyhertz> hmm doesnt wanan build correctly now 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp: In function `int main(int, char **)': 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:179: parse error before `{' 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:182: implicit declaration of function `int usleep(...)' 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:196: break statement not within loop or switch 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp: At top level: 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:199: syntax error before `<' 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:200: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `end_getch' with no type 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:200: new declaration `int end_getch()' 17:13 < mytummyhertz> getch.h:5: ambiguates old declaration `void end_getch()' 17:13 < mytummyhertz> pacman.cpp:201: parse error before `return' 17:15 < mytummyhertz> i have noidea wut that means 17:15 < leachbj> well look at line 179, there is a parse error before it so somethings not quite right. 17:16 < mytummyhertz> 179 is currently the line that void usleep(unsigned long usec){} is residing on 17:17 < mytummyhertz> should there be a space btween the ) and the {} ? 17:17 < leachbj> no that should be fine, but break it up into separate lines to get a better error line number 17:17 < mytummyhertz> k 17:17 < mytummyhertz> so it would be 17:18 < leachbj> where is the main(..) {? what line number? 17:18 < mytummyhertz> void usleep(unsigned long usec) 17:18 < mytummyhertz> { 17:18 < mytummyhertz> } 17:19 < mytummyhertz> ?? 17:19 < mytummyhertz> and the int main(blabla) is on line 33 17:19 < mytummyhertz> line 34 is a { 17:20 < leachbj> the error makes it look like that usleep stuff is defined within a function not at the top level... 17:20 < mytummyhertz> would u like a look at the source 17:21 < mytummyhertz> as this is starting too look like i dont have the knoledge to debug this code 17:23 < leachbj> just keep pluggin away - you'll get there... 17:23 < mytummyhertz> ok 17:23 < mytummyhertz> well if u want it i got the code here: 17:23 < mytummyhertz> http://les83plus.free.fr/sebastien.laout/pacman/pacman-0.1.2.tar.gz 17:24 < mytummyhertz> but it looks like thers an error in the int main statement?? 17:25 < mytummyhertz> is that what the building error indicates? 17:27 < mytummyhertz> ??? 17:28 < mytummyhertz> and why if it built before wont it build now? 17:30 < leachbj> what are the few lines before your usleep function u added? 17:31 < mytummyhertz> it now looks like: 17:31 < mytummyhertz> void usleep(unsigned long usec) 17:31 < mytummyhertz> { 17:31 < mytummyhertz> } 17:31 < leachbj> what are the few lines _before_ your usleep function u added? 17:32 < mytummyhertz> those are before the function 17:32 < mytummyhertz> } 17:32 < mytummyhertz> void usleep(unsigned long usec) 17:32 < mytummyhertz> { 17:32 < mytummyhertz> } 17:32 < mytummyhertz> printf("\033[1;1H"); // Se dÈbarasser du curseur en le mettant en haut ? gauche 17:32 < mytummyhertz> fflush(stdout); // On affiche bien tout ? l'Ècran (avant la pause) 17:32 < mytummyhertz> usleep(T_SLEEP); 17:32 < mytummyhertz> ignore the french comments 17:33 < leachbj> ok, take out that usleep(){} part and put it above the previous function... e.g at the moment its in the main() or something, it needs to be at the top level (e.g. not within another function) 17:34 < mytummyhertz> u mean 17:34 < mytummyhertz> take the line that says usleep(T_SLEEP) 17:34 < leachbj> no 17:34 < leachbj> leave the usleep(T_SLEEP) 17:34 < mytummyhertz> take the void usleep(unsigned long usec) {} 17:34 < mytummyhertz> and put it where? 17:35 < leachbj> but take out the void usleep(...) {} part that you added and put it outside the current function 17:35 < mytummyhertz> ok ill try 17:36 < mytummyhertz> im not sure where to put it it looks like the current function is them main function 17:36 < mytummyhertz> should i put it ouside of main? 17:36 < leachbj> so put it outside the main. 17:37 < mytummyhertz> ok 17:37 < mytummyhertz> so right before main it should look like 17:37 < mytummyhertz> void usleep(unsigned long usec) 17:37 < mytummyhertz> { 17:37 < mytummyhertz> } 17:37 < mytummyhertz> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) 17:38 < mytummyhertz> correct? 17:38 < leachbj> that should work 17:38 < mytummyhertz> ok 17:38 < mytummyhertz> let me save and try to rebuild 17:39 < mytummyhertz> ok so i am building with: 17:39 < mytummyhertz> arm-elf-gcc -Wl,elf2flt -D_STLP_UNIX -c pacman.cpp 17:39 < mytummyhertz> correct? 17:39 < leachbj> yes 17:39 < mytummyhertz> ok there does/doesnt need to be a flag before elf2flt 17:40 < leachbj> sorry yes, there always has to be the - 17:40 < mytummyhertz> k 17:40 < mytummyhertz> YESS!!!! 17:40 < mytummyhertz> it built 17:40 < mytummyhertz> ok so now what 17:41 < mytummyhertz> try to buidld with all the objects? 17:42 < mytummyhertz> ?? 17:42 < leachbj> that might be a good idea yes. 17:42 < mytummyhertz> ok what should i use 17:42 < leachbj> same as earlier 17:42 < mytummyhertz> arm-elf-g++ ? 17:42 < mytummyhertz> ok so arm-elf-g++ -Wl,-elf2flt getch.o c_pacman.o pacman.o -o pacman 17:43 < mytummyhertz> right? 17:44 < mytummyhertz> ?? 17:44 < leachbj> did you try it? 17:44 < mytummyhertz> yeah 17:45 < mytummyhertz> it fed me an error 17:45 < mytummyhertz> jst wanna no if the line is good before i report on the error? 17:45 < leachbj> is it the same as before? if so its probably right!? 17:45 < mytummyhertz> either way the error is" 17:45 < mytummyhertz> /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/libstdc++.a(locale_impl.o): In function `_STL::locale::global(_STL::locale const &)': 17:45 < mytummyhertz> locale_impl.o(.text+0x2bbc): the 'setlocale' function supports only C|POSIX locales 17:46 < leachbj> it still build the binary pacman right? 17:46 < mytummyhertz> holy shit on a stick 17:46 < mytummyhertz> it did 17:46 < mytummyhertz> and file checks it as a bflt executable - version 4 ram 17:46 < mytummyhertz> so is the binary good? 17:47 < mytummyhertz> ?!? 17:47 < leachbj> depends I guess on your definition of good...! 17:48 < mytummyhertz> lol 17:48 < leachbj> yes - it will execute on the ipod, what actually happens I could only guess though. 17:48 < mytummyhertz> let me find my ipod 17:49 < mytummyhertz> ok jw 17:49 < mytummyhertz> to test it 17:49 < mytummyhertz> is it better to write an SH and execute it from podzilla 17:49 < mytummyhertz> or just change the /etc/rc file? 17:49 < leachbj> just change the rc 17:50 < mytummyhertz> k 17:53 < mytummyhertz> ok ipod is plugged in 17:53 < mytummyhertz> now i should place the pacman binary in the /bin on the ipod 17:54 < mytummyhertz> then just add pacman & in the RC file right? 17:54 < mytummyhertz> ?? 17:56 < mytummyhertz> hmm this is rather odd 17:56 < mytummyhertz> i saw pacman start for a split second before podzilla took over 17:56 < mytummyhertz> im gonna kill out the & 17:57 < leachbj> yeah dont put a & 17:57 < mytummyhertz> k 17:57 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup0085.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:58 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:58 < mytummyhertz> *cossin g fongers* 17:58 < mytummyhertz> crossing* 17:59 < piratePenguin> I'm trying to dd my original (apple) firmware back to my iPod... dd's been stuck for the last few min's and dmesg keeps saying:: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command 0x2a 00 00 00 1b 6b 00 00 fe 00 18:00 < piratePenguin> is this an error or what? 18:01 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 18:01 < piratePenguin> great, dd crashed :@ 18:02 < mytummyhertz> lol 18:02 < piratePenguin> my ipod is fuxored 18:02 < mytummyhertz> @leach: well it sorta worked 18:02 < mytummyhertz> heres wut i see when it starts up 18:03 < mytummyhertz> command: /bin/pacman n2 18:03 < mytummyhertz> fichire non trouve 18:03 < mytummyhertz> pid 27: failed 512 18:03 < mytummyhertz> then sash starts 18:04 < mytummyhertz> o and the n2 is the command to start level 2 18:04 < mytummyhertz> should i try runnig it from sash? 18:05 < piratePenguin> I cant even reboot my pc cause a this fcuked up ipod :x 18:06 < leachbj> i'm not really sure what you expect... if I understand correctly you haven't made any changes to make it work on the ipod right? what do you think it should do? 18:06 < mytummyhertz> no fkin idea 18:06 < mytummyhertz> just the pid 29 : 512 18:06 < mytummyhertz> that means program crashed right? 18:07 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup0085.ts005.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:08 < leachbj> well, there is an error message and then it exited with error 512. 18:08 < mytummyhertz> ok 18:08 < mytummyhertz> now i just gotta learn french lol 18:08 < mytummyhertz> eeh a different day 18:08 < leachbj> so whatever a 'fichire' is it wasn't found 18:09 < mytummyhertz> ill post a message to the forums saying i got a semi-working binary 18:09 < mytummyhertz> and ill link it on my site 18:09 < mytummyhertz> maybe ill write build instruction 18:10 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:11 < mytummyhertz> well leachbj you've been an unimaginable help 18:11 < mytummyhertz> a milliom thanks for you 18:11 < leachbj> np 18:11 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup0120.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:11 < mytummyhertz> i will take my leave now 18:11 < leachbj> cya 18:11 < mytummyhertz> soon pacman will see its return 18:11 < mytummyhertz> lol 18:11 < mytummyhertz> adios 18:11 -!- mytummyhertz [~killerpot@pool-68-160-210-141.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:13 < piratePenguin> my ipods pretty fcuked... I cant do feck all with it atm, so I wanna try messing with sbp2... gonna try 'modprobe sbp2 sbp2_max_speed=0' ... should I add any more param's to make it handier? 18:15 < piratePenguin> or... how do I empty *everything* from the ipod? Including the MBR etc... ? 18:18 < jedix> how is the 4g support anyways? 18:20 < piratePenguin> I've only got a 3g one (I think)] 18:20 < piratePenguin> and it fecking sux! cant do feck all with it. I think I fucked it up myself.. think apple would gimme a new one? 18:22 < auk> 3g is comp touch, w/ the FF, menu, play/pause, and RR at the top, sep from the wheel 18:24 < jedix> piratePenguin, what's wrong with it? 18:38 -!- piratePenguin^ [1000@dialup490.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:40 < leachbj> piratePenguin, you should be able to just fdisk it up, format the dos partition, dd in the firmware and have it back to goodness.. 18:40 < piratePenguin^> hehe 18:40 < leachbj> for your sbp2 problems, you just gotta get lucky with a good kernel version. 2.4.27 is good. 18:41 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup0120.ts004.bmt.esat.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:41 -!- piratePenguin^ is now known as piratePenguin 18:41 < leachbj> you could try adding sbp2_serialize_io=1 18:42 < piratePenguin> Im on 2.4.26 18:43 < piratePenguin> I dont think its the kernel.. the iPod and the program (dd, mkdosfs) crashes 18:45 < piratePenguin> /dev/sda1 * 1 5 5104 0 Empty 18:45 < piratePenguin> /dev/sda2 * 6 9536 9759744 b W95 FAT32 18:46 < leachbj> that would probably be the kernel causing the crash... 18:46 < piratePenguin> ^^ is that alright? 18:46 < piratePenguin> just for the apple firmware (for now) 18:46 < piratePenguin> hmm 18:48 < leachbj> yeah that looks fine 18:48 < piratePenguin> k 18:48 < piratePenguin> now will I run 'mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda2' ? (it usually crashes when I do that) 18:48 < leachbj> that will be problems with your sbp2/ieee1394 18:49 < leachbj> maybe try that serialize_io option 18:49 < piratePenguin> I did 18:49 < piratePenguin> I have serialize_io option on already... since you told me 18:50 < piratePenguin> so will I try this? 18:50 < leachbj> sure 18:51 < piratePenguin> k... 18:52 < piratePenguin> damnit... dmesg is giving the same errors :@ 18:52 < piratePenguin> and the ipod stopped flashing (te do not disconnect msg) :x 18:53 < leachbj> I think it does that when sbp2 errors occur... it looks like your firewire hardware is not well supported... (or you have a dodgey cable)... get usb going, or try windows, another pc or whatever.. maybe try 2.6... it doesnt look too good though. 18:54 < KuRcZ> hey guys 18:54 -!- ra|PB [~ronja@141.30.223.73] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:54 < piratePenguin> leachbj: kk... thanks 18:56 < auk> hello, ive got my ipod hooked up in disk mode and when i try to unmout it is says its busy 18:57 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup490.ts001.bmt.esat.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:01 < auk> what should i do? 19:02 < KuRcZ> has anyone beat real 11? 19:02 < KuRcZ> oops 19:02 < KuRcZ> wrong window 19:04 < auk> anyone there? 19:04 -!- ra|PB [~ronja@141.30.223.73] has joined #ipodlinux 19:05 < KuRcZ> meh 19:05 < KuRcZ> me 19:05 < auk> well, its in disk mode now , and plugged in 19:08 < auk> is there some ption or switch to the umount caommand to force it to unmount? 19:11 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:12 < vet_snoring> good afternoon, evening, morning! 19:12 -!- vet_snoring is now known as veteran 19:13 < veteran> [1:34am] anyone there? 19:13 < veteran> [1:35am] yes.. 19:13 < veteran> [1:35am] hi 19:13 < veteran> [1:36am] .. hi, is this a game? 19:13 < veteran> [1:36am] no 19:13 < veteran> hahah =) 19:14 < KuRcZ> lol 19:14 < BlindSpy> hahaha 19:15 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 < BlindSpy> hey auk 19:15 < BlindSpy> whatsup 19:15 < auk> hi 19:15 < auk> my pods in disk mode and i cant figure how to unmountit 19:15 < BlindSpy> connected to a linux computer? 19:16 < leachbj> auk: on linux? 19:16 < auk> yep 19:16 < leachbj> hey BindSpy, hey veteran 19:16 < BlindSpy> you have to unlead the spb2 module 19:16 < BlindSpy> hey bern =) 19:16 < BlindSpy> unload 19:16 < BlindSpy> rmmod sbp2 19:16 < leachbj> eject -s /dev/sda is supposed to work but it doesnt with 2.6.9 19:16 < auk> just a min 19:17 < BlindSpy> i've always used unloading sbp2... i know that works =) 19:17 < leachbj> yeah me too... the eject thing would be the "proper" way to do it though. 19:17 < auk> says its in use 19:17 < BlindSpy> i've got a little script i wrote a while back that does nothing but load that module and mount your pod to /mnot/ 19:17 < BlindSpy> auk: which way did you try? 19:17 < leachbj> auk: then its still mounted 19:17 < BlindSpy> auk: here ill get you the script 19:18 < auk> ? 19:18 < BlindSpy> http://blindspy.homelinux.org/~blindspy/ipodumount 19:18 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup088.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:19 < auk> thanks.... how do i run it? 19:19 < veteran> i love this project. 19:19 < BlindSpy> http://blindspy.homelinux.org/~blindspy/ipodmount 19:19 < BlindSpy> there's the script i wrote to mount it 19:19 < BlindSpy> just put ipodmount and ipodumount in /usr/local/bin and you can just run those as commands every time you wanna mount and unmount your ipod 19:20 < BlindSpy> take a look at them because you need to make sure they are pointing to your folders 19:21 < veteran> wow bern... not many people are willing to spend 2 hours debugging a C program over IRC, you have my respect for helping out tummy on the pacman port =) 19:21 < BlindSpy> hahaha he does that kinda stuff all the time vet... he's insane 19:21 < BlindSpy> his patiance is made out of a steel beam 19:22 < leachbj> or mostly insane... 19:22 < veteran> i would probably have exploded around the 1 hour point 19:23 -!- piratePenguin [1000@dialup088.ts527.cwt.esat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:24 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o BlindSpy ] by leachbj 19:32 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has left #ipodlinux ["Powered by Gentoo"] 19:32 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < BlindSpy> !up 19:33 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o BlindSpy ] by ChanServ 19:33 < auk> thanks alot, but when i try to run it it tells me my permission is denied (im in a root terminal) 19:36 < veteran> leachbj which pages would you like to see on the wiki in the future 19:36 < veteran> i'm working on a "wanted" list 19:36 < BlindSpy> veteran: the wanted list is auto generated... all you have to do is link to a page you want to see 19:37 < auk> BlindSpy: it tells me i dont have permission 19:37 < BlindSpy> auk: what does? 19:37 < auk> when i run ipodumount 19:37 < BlindSpy> the script? 19:37 < auk> yep 19:37 < BlindSpy> you have to be root when you run it 19:37 < auk> im in a root terminal 19:38 < veteran> BlindSpy i know but i'm making a "wanted" page itself to link to the wanted pages from 19:38 < BlindSpy> and you dont have permissions to mount even when your root? 19:38 < auk> nope 19:38 < BlindSpy> veteran: ah cool =) 19:38 < veteran> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Wanted 19:38 < BlindSpy> veteran: hahaha awesome 19:38 < veteran> like that one ;] 19:39 < BlindSpy> yea dood i tell yea - the gentoo-wiki.com guy is good 19:39 < veteran> get him interested in our project haha 19:39 < BlindSpy> hehe i'll try 19:40 < BlindSpy> he usually hangs out on freenode i think 19:40 < auk> any ideas? 19:41 < BlindSpy> yea - set up the /mnt/ipod folder in your fstab 19:41 < BlindSpy> on your workstation computer 19:41 < auk> ok 19:41 < BlindSpy> oh no - wait 19:42 < BlindSpy> i think i set up the script so you dont need to 19:42 < BlindSpy> yea i did 19:42 < BlindSpy> hmm.... thast weird you dont have access to mount stuff even when your root? 19:42 < BlindSpy> can you mount other things like any extra partitions or anything 19:43 < auk> i set up the ipod protion of my ipod in fstab earlier, before i had linux on it , and it works fine 19:44 < BlindSpy> oh hmm 19:44 < BlindSpy> do you mount it thro /dev/sda2 ? 19:44 < auk> /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat rw,user,noauto,noatime,shortname=winnt 0 0 19:45 < BlindSpy> make sure that is unmounted first 19:45 < BlindSpy> you can take that out of your fstab if your going to use this script (just comment it out) 19:45 < auk> ive been tryoing to unmount it 19:45 < veteran> are you suing to root 19:46 < veteran> try to ssh to localhost as user root 19:46 < BlindSpy> or maybe its the permissions of the script... check those 19:46 < BlindSpy> make sure they are executable 19:46 < BlindSpy> well if your root it shouldnt matter 19:46 < veteran> several "friendly" linux distributions, Xantos in particular don't allow a few "dangerous" commands to be executed in su 19:47 < BlindSpy> oh really? 19:47 < veteran> ubuntu might be in the same boat but i doubt it if you've mounted before 19:47 < auk> im in ubuntu, so the root is disabled, but ive opened a root terminal, as sudo kept askunig for a password 19:47 < veteran> try typing this 19:47 < veteran> ssh -l root localhost 19:47 < BlindSpy> if they wont let him use a root termintal they probably wont let him ssh in as root 19:48 < veteran> he can open a root terminal but it ownt let him into a KDE/gnome session as root 19:48 < veteran> wont* 19:48 < auk> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused 19:48 < veteran> oh heh 19:49 < veteran> chmod 777 ipodmount 19:49 < veteran> chmod 777 ipodumount 19:49 < BlindSpy> chmod 755 ipodmount 19:49 < BlindSpy> and make sure they are in /usr/local/bin 19:50 < auk> chmod: failed to get attributes of `ipodumount': No such file or director 19:50 < auk> theyre in usr/local/bin 19:50 < auk> the above is for 777 19:50 < auk> trying 755 now 19:51 < auk> same result 19:51 < veteran> you have to be in the same directory as the scripts you downloaded 19:52 < auk> oh 19:53 < auk> apperently it worked, but the ipod still say s don ot disconnect 19:53 < BlindSpy> did you run the ipodumount command? 19:53 < auk> yes 19:53 < BlindSpy> did it come up with any errors? 19:54 < auk> umount: /mnt/ipod: device is busy 19:54 < auk> umount: /mnt/ipod: device is busy 19:54 < auk> umount: /mnt/linpod: not mounted 19:54 < auk> ERROR: Module sbp2 is in use 19:54 < auk> iPod unmounted 19:54 < auk> it says its unmounted at he bottom thought 19:54 < BlindSpy> yea it always says it worked =) 19:55 < BlindSpy> i didnt put error checking in it cause i thought i was the only one gunna use it ;-P 19:55 < BlindSpy> it just prints that when its doen 19:55 < BlindSpy> the problem is that you arent able to remove your sbp2 module 19:55 < auk> ahh 19:56 < BlindSpy> anyone remember if there is a way to zap modules and remove them anyway? 19:56 < auk> like kill? 19:56 < auk> or force quit? 19:56 < BlindSpy> eh i donno 19:56 < BlindSpy> i never force mods out =) 19:56 < veteran> rmmod sbp2 19:56 < veteran> but first 19:56 < veteran> let me scroll up 19:56 < BlindSpy> veteran: thats what my script uses 19:56 < veteran> rmmod -f sbp2 19:56 < veteran> but don't do that yet 19:56 < veteran> one sec 19:57 < BlindSpy> yea 19:57 < auk> k 19:57 < BlindSpy> that'll prob do it =) 19:57 < veteran> ah i can't scroll up far enough 19:57 < BlindSpy> what'r you lookin for? 19:57 < auk> just tell me when 19:57 < veteran> courtc gave a good way of finding which process was using the device last night 19:57 < veteran> but i forgot it -.- 19:57 < auk> fdisk -l? 19:58 < KuRcZ> yea, i cant remember it eaither 19:58 < veteran> nope 19:58 < KuRcZ> he told me a while ago 19:58 < auk> top? 19:58 < BlindSpy> that doesnt tell you which one 19:58 < veteran> no it was something to do with hmm 19:58 < auk> oh 19:58 < BlindSpy> wait auk, exit outa any file browsers you got running and exit your terminals 19:58 < auk> k 19:58 < veteran> ps aux | grep /mnt/ipod 19:58 < BlindSpy> then open a new term and try to run the script again 19:58 < veteran> yeah make sure you don't have any terminals or file browsers open that are in the ipod's directory 19:59 < auk> doing 19:59 < veteran> that was the problem last night remember ;) 19:59 < BlindSpy> yup =) thats always the problem 19:59 < BlindSpy> but if he didnt do that first thing then its probably whats going on 19:59 < veteran> except when it isn't the problem. 19:59 < auk> umount: /mnt/ipod: device is busy 19:59 < auk> umount: /mnt/ipod: device is busy 19:59 < auk> umount: /mnt/linpod: not mounted 19:59 < auk> ERROR: Module sbp2 is in use 19:59 < auk> iPod unmounted 19:59 < veteran> haha okay 19:59 < BlindSpy> hmmm 19:59 < BlindSpy> something else is using it still 20:00 < veteran> this is the point when you you go balistic and type 20:00 < veteran> rmmod -f sbp2 20:00 < BlindSpy> that'll probably do it 20:00 < auk> im ready to 20:00 < auk> should i? 20:01 < BlindSpy> yea 20:01 < BlindSpy> do that 20:01 < auk> k 20:01 < BlindSpy> NO DONT! 20:02 < auk> says it s ok to disconnect 20:02 < BlindSpy> hahaha Jk jk 20:02 < BlindSpy> i was just kidding ;-P 20:02 < auk> :] 20:02 < BlindSpy> hehehe sorry 20:02 < KuRcZ> lmao! 20:02 < BlindSpy> yea im still wondering what program was using it still tho 20:02 < BlindSpy> were you using gtkpod? 20:02 < BlindSpy> and still had that running? 20:02 < auk> nope 20:03 < veteran> BlindSpy i've had it say still busy many times on my lappy that runs mandrake 10 20:03 < veteran> i need to slap gentoo onto that sucker =) 20:03 < auk> i think the ipod just thinks somethings using it , it always said that, even in windows 20:04 < auk> is it safe to use rmmod -f sbp2 every time? 20:04 < BlindSpy> yea 20:04 < BlindSpy> it'll be fine 20:04 < auk> good 20:04 < BlindSpy> just close every program you know that is using or used the ipod since it was connected before doing that 20:05 < auk> ok 20:05 < veteran> rmmod -f isn't a very clean way of unmounting things haha 20:05 < auk> now im going to mount it again and put the latest podzilla on ti 20:05 < KuRcZ> why don't you just do unmount then? 20:06 < auk> because i wanted to figure how to umount it all the time 20:06 < veteran> umount wasn't behaving 20:07 < KuRcZ> ahhh 20:07 < KuRcZ> ok 20:07 < KuRcZ> what distro you running? 20:07 < auk> ubuntu-warty 20:07 < KuRcZ> never heard of it 20:07 < BlindSpy> i know nothing about ubuntu 20:07 < KuRcZ> i have mandrake 20:07 < KuRcZ> 10 20:07 < auk> google it 20:08 < BlindSpy> im at ther website =) 20:08 < KuRcZ> i'd like to install gentoo sometime 20:08 < BlindSpy> i love gentoo 20:08 < BlindSpy> been using it for like... 2 years not maybe? 20:08 < auk> they ve got a channel on freenode: #ubuntu 20:08 < BlindSpy> Gentoo and SuSE are my favorites 20:08 < BlindSpy> and uClinux =P 20:08 < KuRcZ> gentoo was too confusing for me to install when i first started so i kinda gave up 20:08 < KuRcZ> wanna wait till im better with linux 20:09 < KuRcZ> i have suse on disk 20:09 < KuRcZ> ubuntu-warty is live CD? 20:09 < BlindSpy> yea with the gentoo install, any little thing can completely throw you off 20:10 < KuRcZ> yea 20:10 < KuRcZ> what gui do you use blindspy? 20:10 < BlindSpy> when i first installed gentoo, i could never get it to connect to the internet and therefore couldnt finish the install for a week 20:10 < BlindSpy> gui? 20:10 < BlindSpy> for the gentoo install? 20:10 < KuRcZ> yea 20:10 < KuRcZ> or anytihng 20:10 < BlindSpy> there is none 20:10 < KuRcZ> like KDE, gnome 20:10 < BlindSpy> ooh DM/WM 20:10 < KuRcZ> no 20:10 < BlindSpy> i use gnome and openbox 20:10 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:11 < auk> openbox? 20:11 < KuRcZ> i like the look of KDE, but its kinda crap 20:11 < KuRcZ> i like fluxbox aswell 20:11 < BlindSpy> openbox is really lightweight but prettier than flux =) 20:11 < auk> thats what i dont like bout KDE, the look 20:11 < BlindSpy> i despise kde but its all personal prefference 20:11 < KuRcZ> yea 20:11 < KuRcZ> open box looks sweet 20:12 < KuRcZ> http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/screenshot-gentoo.png 20:12 < KuRcZ> i like the little stats stuf fon the right side 20:13 < BlindSpy> thats not openbox 20:13 < BlindSpy> thats some other program 20:13 < BlindSpy> he's using gnome with openbox 20:13 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:13 < BlindSpy> the only thing you can see that is openbox is the titelbars on the top of his windows 20:14 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:14 < KuRcZ> what do you use for IRC? Xchat? 20:14 < BlindSpy> xchat 20:14 < KuRcZ> this is some openbox isn't it? http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/openbox3.2.jpg 20:14 < KuRcZ> the menu 20:15 < auk> oddd 20:15 < BlindSpy> the only thing you can see of openbox there is the menu 20:16 < KuRcZ> do you use xmms? 20:16 < BlindSpy> all openbox has is a rightclick menu and titlebars 20:16 < KuRcZ> yea 20:16 < KuRcZ> like flux 20:16 < BlindSpy> no i use beep-media-player 20:16 < KuRcZ> xmms frezzes after i load all my songs 20:16 < BlindSpy> openbox doesnt even have like a panel or workspace switcher 20:16 < KuRcZ> i've got over 2400 songs 20:16 < BlindSpy> yea me too - mine can load it all 20:16 < auk> that makes me think, whenever i close gtkpod, it loses all the data 20:16 < BlindSpy> xmms that is 20:17 < BlindSpy> gtkpod is tricky to get the hang of 20:17 < KuRcZ> i have that too 20:18 < auk> says it has unsaved data and ask if i want to close anyway, but i cant find how to save the data 20:21 < BlindSpy> you've just gotta successfully sync it to your ipod 20:21 < BlindSpy> you guys should all make your homepages on the wiki 20:21 < BlindSpy> User:yourname 20:21 < KuRcZ> lol 20:21 < BlindSpy> you did =) 20:21 < KuRcZ> wiki is awesome 20:22 < BlindSpy> yup yup 20:22 < KuRcZ> i wanna learn more of it 20:22 < BlindSpy> expecially for something like this - its perfect 20:22 < KuRcZ> yea 20:22 < KuRcZ> and ipodlinux is such the perfect little project too 20:22 < auk> its just irritating to have to import all the songs, edit the m and export them aevery time 20:22 < KuRcZ> cuz for comp sci, we have to do something with ocmputers, adn since everryones learning flash, and i already know it, im gunna learn C better, and help out 20:23 < KuRcZ> grade 12 computer science 20:23 < KuRcZ> and i'll be ahead and know C for next year 20:23 < BlindSpy> thinking about universities yet? 20:23 < KuRcZ> yea 20:23 < BlindSpy> which ones? 20:24 < KuRcZ> well since im in south western ontario, either university of windsor, waterloo, or maybe western 20:24 < KuRcZ> if i go to windsor i can stay home then 20:24 < BlindSpy> nice 20:24 < KuRcZ> yea 20:38 < veteran> BlindSpy when do you want to tackle moving the forums? 20:40 < auk> ahh... great i cant seem to mount it again: in ipod mode it just charges, wont display "do not diconnect" in disk mode it just says that its okay to disconnect , and in linux mode it just remains in the podzilla menu! 20:40 < BlindSpy> veteran: wanna try now? 20:41 < BlindSpy> auk: sometimes i get that and i just have to wait a bit (with the sbp2 unloaded and everything unmounted) 20:42 < auk> k 20:42 < BlindSpy> im not sure what the waiting does or why it works but it works for me 20:42 < auk> hmm... 20:44 < auk> im restarting so that the modified fstab takes place. be back in a minute. 20:44 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:44 < BlindSpy> veteran: can you get the latest phpbb installed on the new server? 20:47 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:47 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:48 < veteran> yeah i can 20:48 < auk> im back 20:48 < KuRcZ> need any help? 20:48 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Cho"] 20:48 < BlindSpy> hehe installing phpBB is kinda a one man job =) 20:49 < KuRcZ> ut i have experience with that :D 20:49 < KuRcZ> lol 20:51 < BlindSpy> with what? 20:51 < KuRcZ> installing phpbb and running it 20:51 < KuRcZ> etc 20:51 < KuRcZ> lol 20:53 < BlindSpy> =) we have experience with that too 20:53 < KuRcZ> shucks 20:53 < KuRcZ> lol 20:56 < KuRcZ> i believe there is some competition.... 20:56 < KuRcZ> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipod-on-linux/ 20:56 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 < KuRcZ> found on http://www.ipodlounge.com/downloads_linux.php 20:57 < KuRcZ> err wait 20:57 < KuRcZ> is that ipod for linux? 20:57 < KuRcZ> am i jsut a big dumbass 20:57 < KuRcZ> lol 20:58 < auk> if the ipods not mounted, can i just yank it (its showing the "do not disconnect" message) 20:58 < auk> anyway 20:58 < KuRcZ> yea 20:58 < KuRcZ> i think so 20:58 < auk> ok 20:58 < KuRcZ> dont do t yet 20:58 < auk> ok 20:58 < KuRcZ> im a dumbass some days 20:59 < BlindSpy> hehehehe yea that is to use your ipod with linux 20:59 < BlindSpy> i believe we are the only project working on linux on ipod 21:00 < auk> so... can i? 21:00 < veteran> rmmod sbp2 21:00 < veteran> don't worry about it just yank it 21:00 < veteran> i rarely unmount and mine works fine 21:00 < KuRcZ> yea 21:00 < KuRcZ> thought so 21:01 < veteran> not the recommended way of doing things but it shouldn't blow up 21:01 < KuRcZ> but didnt wanna have you mess up your ipod if i was wrong 21:01 < auk> well rmmod sbp2 worked as well,, so i guesss the ipods just stupid 21:01 < veteran> BlindSpy, do you happen to know how to make links like http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page work 21:01 < BlindSpy> yea 21:02 < veteran> there must be some apache setting to make it point to index.php instead of looking for a directory 21:02 < BlindSpy> yea there is a lot of apache settings 21:02 < BlindSpy> do you have access to the apache.conf? 21:02 < veteran> lol i own the server so yes 21:02 < BlindSpy> it still looks for the index.php, it just masks it 21:03 < veteran> what's the config line 21:04 < auk> how do you turn the backlight on in the new podzilla? 21:05 < BlindSpy> there's more than one line veteran 21:05 < BlindSpy> its quite a bit you have to set up 21:05 < BlindSpy> to tell you the truth its a pain in the ass 21:05 < BlindSpy> ill set it up if you want 21:05 < veteran> well i'd like to know how so i can do it in the future ;p 21:07 < veteran> can you explain the basics? 21:08 < auk> is there a users guide or something like it on the website? 21:08 < BlindSpy> ill show you were i learned - it'll be easier that way 21:08 < BlindSpy> have you got phpbb up yet? 21:08 < BlindSpy> lets do that first 21:08 < BlindSpy> auk: yea 21:09 < BlindSpy> auk: www.ipodlinux.org 21:09 < veteran> nope not yet 21:09 < veteran> configuring the new server 21:09 < auk> ok im there 21:09 < veteran> i'm going to move everything over to the new one, wiki and all 21:10 < BlindSpy> to a newer server? 21:10 < BlindSpy> where's that? 21:10 < veteran> yes 21:10 < veteran> dallas, texas 21:10 < BlindSpy> no the host 21:10 < BlindSpy> whats the dns 21:10 < veteran> dual xeon, better specs 21:10 < veteran> theplanet 21:10 < BlindSpy> ah 21:10 < BlindSpy> how are you going to move the wiki? 21:10 < veteran> i'll move the database first 21:11 < veteran> point the current server to the other database to make sure it works 21:11 < BlindSpy> i donno if that'll work 21:11 < KuRcZ> am i going to have to resign up? 21:11 < KuRcZ> yea 21:11 < veteran> why wouldn't it? 21:11 < KuRcZ> that might work 21:11 < KuRcZ> try it 21:11 < BlindSpy> how will you move the database? 21:11 < KuRcZ> just copy it 21:11 < KuRcZ> its only a .sql 21:11 < veteran> mysql... 21:11 < veteran> =) 21:11 < BlindSpy> ah you have access to that? 21:12 < KuRcZ> yea 21:12 < veteran> i own the server 21:12 < KuRcZ> yea 21:12 < KuRcZ> is it on your home pc? 21:12 < veteran> the actual computer is mine 21:12 < BlindSpy> stop saying ya 21:12 < veteran> haha =) 21:12 < BlindSpy> oooh ok 21:12 < BlindSpy> i didnt know that 21:12 < veteran> colocated in theplanet 21:12 < KuRcZ> see! i know what im talking about! 21:12 < KuRcZ> lol 21:12 < veteran> no not home pc 21:12 < veteran> haha 21:12 < veteran> that would be horrible =) 21:12 < BlindSpy> hehe yes 21:12 < KuRcZ> whats your connection? 21:12 < veteran> cable modem at home 21:12 < BlindSpy> but still... i thought you were just using some hosting thing... not one where you actually rent the server 21:12 < veteran> 16gbps throughput at the datacenter 21:13 < veteran> hehe well i operate a game hosting company 21:13 < KuRcZ> nice! 21:13 < BlindSpy> that clears a lot up =) 21:13 < veteran> http://www.sys-techs.com 21:13 < KuRcZ> for servers and stuff? 21:13 < KuRcZ> i remember when i used to play CS 21:13 < BlindSpy> ok good - that makes moving this stuff a lot easier =) 21:13 < veteran> yep 21:13 < KuRcZ> i played that damn game for like 5 years 21:13 < veteran> yeah haha 21:14 < KuRcZ> i quit a year and half ago 21:14 < KuRcZ> cuz i got bored 21:14 < veteran> wow 21:14 < veteran> have you tried cs: source? 21:14 < KuRcZ> no 21:15 < veteran> my copy of half life 2 should be here monday 21:15 < KuRcZ> sweet 21:15 < KuRcZ> i wanna try that 21:15 < veteran> we should port it to the ipod 21:15 < KuRcZ> but im afraid i'll get addicted to that too 21:15 < KuRcZ> lmao 21:15 < veteran> (ha) 21:15 < KuRcZ> that would be so awesome 21:15 < BlindSpy> 4 colors 21:15 < BlindSpy> lmao 21:15 < veteran> might have to overclock the ipod first 21:15 < KuRcZ> hahaha 21:16 < KuRcZ> just a little bit 21:16 < KuRcZ> heh 21:16 < veteran> and figure out how to hook up a mouse 21:16 < BlindSpy> vet it can handle it - the ipod is dual processors ;-P 21:16 < veteran> haha =p 21:16 < KuRcZ> hahaha 21:16 < veteran> have we figured out how to use both yet? 21:16 < BlindSpy> donno 21:16 < KuRcZ> blindspy: what are you trying to do? 21:16 < BlindSpy> nothing... 21:17 < veteran> he was talkin bout half life 21:17 < KuRcZ> ohh 21:17 < BlindSpy> haha 21:17 < veteran> anyways so yeah i'm not very advanced with apache 21:17 < KuRcZ> what do you need help with? 21:17 < BlindSpy> i'll teach you how 21:17 < BlindSpy> dont worry 21:17 < veteran> i know just enough to get by with setting up each customer's 500mb free webspace that comes with the gamehosting, and that's it =) 21:18 < BlindSpy> =) 21:18 < BlindSpy> thats all you need 21:18 < KuRcZ> yea 21:18 < KuRcZ> lol 21:18 < veteran> haha yep, and a few security tweaks 21:18 < KuRcZ> ahhh poo on security 21:19 < veteran> easy for you to say =p 21:19 < KuRcZ> security is for the weak 21:19 < BlindSpy> well have you got the phpbb set up on the new server yet vet? 21:19 < veteran> we were getting brute forced by ~6 different hosts per day before we tightened things up 21:19 < veteran> no i've been too busy chatting 21:19 < veteran> =) 21:19 < KuRcZ> want me to hack those guys for ya? 21:19 < KuRcZ> lol 21:20 < KuRcZ> im not doing much right now 21:20 < veteran> haha no thanks 21:21 < KuRcZ> ahhh ok 21:21 < KuRcZ> fine! 21:21 < BlindSpy> well veteran do you have the ftp set up to the new server so i can just put the package there and you can setup from there when you are done? 21:21 < veteran> sure i'll set it up real quick 21:21 < BlindSpy> k 21:23 < KuRcZ> We have 523 registered users 21:23 < KuRcZ> doesn't seem like that many use ipodlinux 21:23 < veteran> has the project been slashdotted before? 21:23 < BlindSpy> yea 21:24 < KuRcZ> \. 21:24 < KuRcZ> lol 21:24 < veteran> that's the main reason i'm switching servers 21:24 < veteran> haha 21:24 < BlindSpy> we've been on slashdot - never slashdotted ebfore 21:24 < KuRcZ> whats slashdot? 21:24 < BlindSpy> we were hosted by SF 21:24 < BlindSpy> www.slashdot.org 21:24 < KuRcZ> ohh 21:25 < KuRcZ> i put a link on my pc help site to ipodlinux 21:28 < veteran> alright ftp is setup 21:28 < veteran> not sure if i trust freenode msgs 21:29 < veteran> i just pm'ed you the login info BlindSpy 21:29 < BlindSpy> ok thanks 21:29 < BlindSpy> hey i found this site for you vet: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rewrite_Rules 21:29 < KuRcZ> pm me too! 21:29 < KuRcZ> lol 21:29 < KuRcZ> jk 21:30 < veteran> haha 21:30 < veteran> ahh nice 21:30 < veteran> =) 21:30 < BlindSpy> i have no pm's 21:30 < KuRcZ> my site --> http://www.imdesign.cjb.net/pchelp/ 21:30 < BlindSpy> vet just /msg me 21:31 < veteran> i guess we will have to change the forums to http://forums.ipodlinux.org 21:31 < veteran> so the /forum wont get picked up by wiki 21:31 < veteran> http://forum.ipodlinux.org 21:31 < KuRcZ> virtual host it then 21:31 < BlindSpy> we know KuRcZ 21:32 < KuRcZ> sorry 21:32 < BlindSpy> btw you removed the copyright info off the bottom of your nuke script 21:32 < BlindSpy> thats illegal =) 21:32 < KuRcZ> lol 21:32 < veteran> hah 21:32 < KuRcZ> pfft 21:33 < BlindSpy> seriously though they are pretty active about people doing that because it removes all there credit for something they give away for free 21:33 < BlindSpy> you should put it back on 21:33 < KuRcZ> ok 21:34 < veteran> at least make it say "I removed the copyright link for this project. Sue me." 21:34 < KuRcZ> lmao 21:34 < KuRcZ> ok 21:34 < KuRcZ> sounds good 21:34 < BlindSpy> hahha 21:35 < veteran> BlindSpy this can be done in an .htaccess file 21:35 < BlindSpy> yup 21:38 < veteran> http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page 21:38 < BlindSpy> nicely done mate =) 21:38 < BlindSpy> looks perty now 21:39 < veteran> oh yeah, i can copy/paste like a madman 21:39 < BlindSpy> see your more advanced with apache than you thought 21:39 < BlindSpy> hehehe oh its more than that 21:39 < veteran> true, uploading copy/pasted material takes more skill 21:40 < KuRcZ> ok i put it back 21:40 < KuRcZ> i feel better 21:40 < veteran> you're a good man. 21:40 < KuRcZ> =D 21:40 < BlindSpy> i'm unable to upload the .gz backup because my permission is denied =( 21:41 < KuRcZ> i g2g out for dinner tho 21:41 < KuRcZ> il bbl later on 21:41 < KuRcZ> see ya guys 21:41 < veteran> k later KuRcZ 21:41 < veteran> sec BlindSpy 21:42 < BlindSpy> see ya KuRcZ 21:42 < veteran> sorry bout that, fixed. 21:42 < BlindSpy> np 21:42 < BlindSpy> ok thanks =) 21:42 < BlindSpy> you just wanna restore from the backup then? 21:43 < BlindSpy> its zipped so you'll need shell access i presume 21:43 < BlindSpy> brb 21:44 < veteran> sure 21:45 * leachbj is away: I'm busy 21:53 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:01 < BlindSpy> afk 22:21 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has left #ipodlinux ["Powered by Gentoo"] 22:21 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@tark-b-139.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ipodlinux 22:21 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o BlindSpy ] by ChanServ 22:49 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:10 -!- auk [~auk@h-66-167-105-198.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:12 < auk> anyone know why i might not be able to view pics on my ipod? its a GIF 23:19 -!- Flik [~flik@d64-180-147-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:33 < courtc> n 23:35 < jedix> umm 23:35 < jedix> under linux? 23:50 < KuRcZ> im back, hey guys 23:52 < courtc> hi 23:52 < KuRcZ> whats up courtc? 23:53 < courtc> not much, still waking up 23:54 < KuRcZ> lol 23:54 < KuRcZ> its 7PM EST 23:54 < KuRcZ> ! 23:54 < KuRcZ> lol 23:55 < courtc> yup 23:55 < KuRcZ> what time did you stay up till? 23:55 < KuRcZ> lol 23:56 < courtc> dunno, noon or so.. 23:56 < KuRcZ> oh man --- Log closed Mon Nov 22 00:00:00 2004