--- Log opened Mon Jul 19 00:00:01 2004 01:02 -!- Ubel_ [~Ubel@ini1-p221.du.simnet.is] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:12 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC958924.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ppp-spk-319.icehouse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:38 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ppp-spk-319.icehouse.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:39 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ppp-spk-319.icehouse.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:39 < sneakerelph> yeo 01:39 < macPod> hey 01:39 < sneakerelph> how goes it 01:39 < sneakerelph> any important IPL updates i should know about? 01:39 < macPod> just got back from my first concert 01:39 < macPod> nope 01:40 < macPod> too much stuff happening 01:40 < macPod> well you should know it has a 50% chance of working for you 01:40 < macPod> I got free backstage passes to ozzfest 01:40 < sneakerelph> heh 01:40 < sneakerelph> holy shoot 01:40 < sneakerelph> where'd you get that? 01:40 < macPod> my friend's uncle is a band manager 01:41 < sneakerelph> damn... i want one 01:41 < macPod> We were chillen in their bus and watching the playboy channel 01:41 < sneakerelph> lol 01:41 < macPod> then I got to go on stage when they were playing 01:41 < sneakerelph> sweet 01:41 < macPod> yea 01:41 < macPod> atreyu is the name of the band 01:42 < sneakerelph> never heard of em 01:42 < macPod> also saw black sabbath's equipment 01:42 < macPod> it's a new band, I would reccomend 01:43 < sneakerelph> sweet 01:43 < sneakerelph> im on ever-reliable windows 01:43 < sneakerelph> had to clear my relatives comp of 3 virus's 01:43 < sneakerelph> sasser, korgo, and donk 01:45 < sneakerelph> donk, a.k.a. sdbot 01:46 < sneakerelph> have you seen pictures of the new pod? 01:46 < sneakerelph> its got a click wheel 01:46 < macPod> new ipod? 01:46 < macPod> hmm 01:46 < sneakerelph> a few redisigned menus 01:46 < sneakerelph> but no color 01:46 < macPod> what? 01:46 < sneakerelph> cheaper too, 20 gig at 299 01:46 < macPod> they must be making two new ones 01:47 < sneakerelph> yup 01:47 < macPod> where did you get the info? 01:47 < sneakerelph> ? 01:47 < sneakerelph> it was on msnbc.com or something like that 01:47 < macPod> n/m 01:48 < macPod> they are being released monday 01:49 < macPod> it looks like the mini ipod 01:49 < macPod> controlwise 01:49 < macPod> and is thinner 01:50 < sneakerelph> yeah 01:50 < sneakerelph> thats what i said 01:50 < macPod> they probably did that so they do not have to release two differetn firmwares 01:50 < sneakerelph> yeah, good point 01:51 < sneakerelph> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457434/site/newsweek 01:52 < sneakerelph> theres the article i read earlier today 01:53 < sneakerelph> time to go 01:53 < sneakerelph> later 01:53 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ppp-spk-319.icehouse.net] has quit [] 04:15 -!- Pinkevin [Pinkevin@h248n1fls33o951.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:15 -!- Pinkevin [Pinkevin@h248n1fls33o951.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:46 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC958924.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["the easiest thing to do in life."] 04:53 -!- Warini [~Warini@200.72.62.115] has joined #ipodlinux 04:53 < Warini> hi 04:54 -!- Warini [~Warini@200.72.62.115] has quit [Client Quit] 06:20 -!- hello_ [~hello@203.101.41.151] has joined #ipodlinux 06:20 < hello_> hello 06:20 < hello_> any one used uclinux with ixp425 06:27 -!- hello_ [~hello@203.101.41.151] has left #ipodlinux ["Client Exiting"] 07:02 -!- root_____ [~root@ool-4353aa74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:02 < root_____> hello 07:08 -!- root_____ [~root@ool-4353aa74.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 07:11 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:48 -!- guru3-zzz is now known as guru3 08:16 -!- Pinkevin [Pinkevin@h248n1fls33o951.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:30 -!- tlg [~tlg@226.230-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 08:39 -!- guru3 is now known as guru3-out 09:27 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-69-106-237-126.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:29 -!- tlg [~tlg@226.230-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Success] 09:30 -!- tittof is now known as _tittof 09:55 -!- tlg [~tlg@237.230-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 09:56 * oxygen77 is away: chui pas là 11:01 -!- tlg [~tlg@237.230-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:08 * oxygen77 is back (gone 01:12:50) 11:09 -!- tlg [~tlg@110-238.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 11:40 < _tittof> yeah now i feel like being ripped off by apple 11:40 < _tittof> i decided to buy an apple iPod classic with 15G hdd because i thought well 4GB on the mini is not enough for the bucks 11:41 < _tittof> now they state the generation 4 wont even have a 15GB version and aditionally (thats what sucks) will be cheaper than the old classics 11:59 < eddan> life's a bitch mate :) 12:32 -!- togg_ [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 12:32 -!- togg_ is now known as togg 12:32 < togg> hi all 12:33 < togg> whats the status off linux on ipod? what is supported and what is missing? 12:33 < togg> which userinterface is provided? 12:54 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 13:34 -!- _tittof is now known as tittof 14:29 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:32 -!- danalien|kde [~danalien@h243n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:04 -!- ra|G4 [~razo@c-134-116-156.m.dial.de.ignite.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:06 < ra|G4> can anyone tell yet, if it will be hard to make ipodlinux compatible with the 4G ipods? 15:17 -!- Stereo [~stereo@212.76.255.100] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:18 -!- guru3-out is now known as guru3 15:30 -!- shifty [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has joined #ipodlinux 15:36 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-1-68.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 15:48 < shifty> hi, hugo 15:48 < hugoboss24> hi 15:53 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-1-68.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["@+"] 16:01 < shifty> hi trilluser! 16:08 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:10 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:14 -!- shifty [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:24 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:25 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 -!- h [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 17:32 -!- ra|G4 [~razo@c-134-116-156.m.dial.de.ignite.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:33 < h> hi 17:33 < h> is there something like rcp on ipodlinux? 17:35 < guru3> rcp? 17:36 < h> when sash says 'pid 41: failed 7' does that mean the app returned 7. or is that a code for a certain kind of fault like segfault 17:36 < h> rcp is cp over telnet 17:36 < guru3> oh right... well, i've got not a clue :) 17:36 < guru3> but i think i saw something in the thread at the forums... 17:36 < guru3> check there 17:38 < togg> hi 17:38 < togg> anyone can describe the userinterface on the ipod? 17:38 < togg> how can i search songs e.g. 17:43 * oxygen77 is away: chui pas là 17:58 -!- danalien|kde [~danalien@h243n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 18:07 < eddan> togg: It's not near complete, but you can on the newest beta of podzilla browse just as with the apple firmware 18:08 < eddan> But loading the db and playing mp3s is slow, so the developers have some optimizing to do :) 18:13 < togg> eddan: thanks for info :) 18:13 < togg> eddan: is ogg working now? 18:15 < togg> wow, 16 bogomips on ipod 1 :) 18:15 < togg> anyone know what cpu the ipod generations have? 18:16 < togg> is there a hardware difference in ipod generations? i want to know ram size, cpu type and speed and so on 18:40 < normalperson> my gen3 has 16 bogomips, too 18:40 < normalperson> speaking of which, I need to get working on it again 19:08 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-4-43.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:14 -!- JackMD [~JackMD@pD9E57AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:14 -!- JackMD [~JackMD@pD9E57AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:37 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-4-43.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["@+"] 19:40 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB02C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 19:51 -!- rootcode [~rootcode@S0106000ea68c0441.vw.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:02 < rootcode> hows tremor development going? 20:09 < leachbj> rootcode, don't think anyone is really actively working on it at the moment... 20:09 < leachbj> insofar as on the ipod that is 20:32 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Cho"] 20:51 -!- irc [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:53 -!- irc [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:53 -!- asdfqwer [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:54 < leachbj> asdfqwer: now thats a much better irc handle ;) 20:56 -!- qqqqaaaazzzz [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:56 < qqqqaaaazzzz> test... 20:56 < qqqqaaaazzzz> so, now it's working... 20:57 < qqqqaaaazzzz> anyway, could anyone help me with an audio programming problem? 20:57 < leachbj> seems to... 20:57 < leachbj> whats the problem? 20:58 < qqqqaaaazzzz> i'm playing a sample i generate in ram...two triangle waves of different frequencies. 20:58 < qqqqaaaazzzz> i'm trying to put on in each ear...but it switches ears and drops in and out 20:59 < qqqqaaaazzzz> source is at http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/ipod/audioGen/audioGen.c 21:00 < leachbj> I've heard that in the mp3 playback too. Switching left/right channels means the left/right samples are getting mixed up probably because one is dropped and it gets out of sync. 21:01 < qqqqaaaazzzz> i've switched to mono 8-bit but the driver only lets me go to stereo 8-bit... 21:01 < qqqqaaaazzzz> the swapping/dropping still happens in stereo 8-bit 21:01 < leachbj> umm the driver doesn't do 8bit... 21:01 < qqqqaaaazzzz> ooops i think i have that swtiched then....it let me do mono 16-bit 21:01 < leachbj> mono 16bit should be fine... 21:01 < qqqqaaaazzzz> but the strange thing was that it still swapped channels in mono mode 21:02 < leachbj> hmmm, that sounds a little strange. 21:03 * qqqqaaaazzzz .o ( literally) 21:03 < h> Is there a way to transfer files to ipodlinux? 21:04 < leachbj> I use wget from my ipod... 21:04 < qqqqaaaazzzz> h: yeah, several ways! 21:04 < qqqqaaaazzzz> i use lrz over a serial link from hyperterminal on a pc 21:04 < h> is wget in the standart ipodlinux distribution? 21:05 < leachbj> I think so... 21:05 < qqqqaaaazzzz> you can also put the ipod into diskmode (hold down << and >>) then mount the filesystem on linux or macosx 21:05 < qqqqaaaazzzz> yeah wget is built into busybox 21:05 < h> qqqqaaaazzzz: the problem is i dont want to constantly reboot while developing code... 21:05 < qqqqaaaazzzz> p.s. under macosx wget doesn't work well wih apache...better to run thttpd 21:06 < qqqqaaaazzzz> h: yeah, that's why i use lrz... 21:06 < h> how did you make the serial cable? 21:06 < h> is there a way to get the connectors? 21:06 < qqqqaaaazzzz> i would use wget like bleach does, but i only have windows and macosx, so i can't use the firewire 21:07 < qqqqaaaazzzz> the four terminals inside the remote are power, ground rx and tx. 21:07 < qqqqaaaazzzz> the critical ipod tx does NOT go along the able into the remote... 21:07 < qqqqaaaazzzz> so the best thing to do is get some header material for working with ribbon cables... 21:07 < qqqqaaaazzzz> cut off a 2x2 section and bend the pins slightly so that fit inside the remote connector on the ipod 21:08 < qqqqaaaazzzz> if you do that, i can give you the pinout :) 21:08 < h> :) 21:08 < qqqqaaaazzzz> it "only" runs up to 38400 bps, fwiw 21:08 < leachbj> or just check the forums ;) 21:08 < h> oh well that should not be a problem... 21:08 < h> is anyone else having problems using firewire in diskmode. it only works once in a while for me (linux) 21:09 < qqqqaaaazzzz> anyway, i put up a makefile to build audioGen.c . . . i changed the ioctl call to put /dev/dsp into mono, and read the param back to confirm its mono... 21:09 < qqqqaaaazzzz> but it still switches channels on me! 21:09 < leachbj> qqqqaaaazzzz: the mono and switching left/right is strange but possible the code doesn't check if there are two free slots when in mono 21:10 < qqqqaaaazzzz> hmmmm...which part of the code wouuld i change to tweak that? 21:10 < leachbj> its in the audio driver in the kernel. 21:11 < leachbj> can u compile kernels ok there? 21:11 < qqqqaaaazzzz> yeah on a friend's linux maachine we have compild the kernel... 21:11 < qqqqaaaazzzz> is it the file ipod.c in drivers/sound ? 21:12 < leachbj> so in arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/audio.c:ipodaudio_process_pb_dma 21:12 < leachbj> there is a == 0 on line 228 21:13 < qqqqaaaazzzz> a==0? i have "inl(0xc000251c) &0x7800000 ) == 0 " 21:14 < leachbj> yup 21:14 < leachbj> so add in a >> 23 and change the == 0 to <= 1 21:16 -!- h [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:16 < qqqqaaaazzzz> wow...i have no idea how you reverse engineered THAT part 21:16 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:18 < leachbj> but I think the real problem is in stereo too, the mp3 playback is always in stereo.. 21:18 < ln> leachbj: would it be possible to have a device which one woudl copy arm-bytecode to so it would be executed on the second processor? 21:19 < qqqqaaaazzzz> wonder if there's a register somewhere that gives a number of words remaining in a transfer... 21:19 < leachbj> actually pretty easy... in the diag there is a playback function (and a record function)... its only a couple of hundred instructions.. finding it is pretty easy too b/c of all the plain text in there... 21:19 < leachbj> ln: hmmm... there is almost something like that in the kernel but its all interupt driven (the pseudo dma)... 21:20 < leachbj> those 4 bits are the free slots in the fifo... 21:22 < ln> i dont quite understand. is there decent documentation available on the chip that is used? 21:23 < qqqqaaaazzzz> hey, that's great! i haveta run, but i'll try it l8r 2-nite! thxxxxx! 21:23 -!- qqqqaaaazzzz [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:23 -!- tlg [~tlg@110-238.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:24 -!- asdfqwer [~shifty@sidehack.sat.gweep.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:26 < leachbj> ln: not really, only what you can get from reverse engineering the firmware. 21:30 < leachbj> ln: re the case in artists, I just fixed my tags ;) 21:30 < leachbj> the Apple firmware treats them as different too doesn't it? 21:31 -!- rootcode [~rootcode@S0106000ea68c0441.vw.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:31 < leachbj> anyhow I have to go! night all. 21:31 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB02C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:44 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:49 < ln> ok. i managed to cut down the time my parser needs to read a 2285 entry db to 17 sec (including sorting etc.) 21:49 < ln> guess that is not quite good enough. 22:02 < ln> good night all 22:02 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has left #ipodlinux ["Client exiting"] 23:44 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:52 -!- guru3 is now known as guru3-zzz --- Log closed Tue Jul 20 00:00:01 2004